[00:06] added syndemon to /etc/rc.local [00:06] :) [00:13] If this is an issue for you, the touchpad can be configured without enabling SHMConfig by placing the desired options in a HAL fdi file and rebooting. thats handy for u Alastair [00:17] . [00:21] hi merriam ::) [00:22] well did it work Alastair ? [00:22] gggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttting laggggggg [00:23] brb [00:23] back , lag stoped [00:30] nah [00:31] nothing happened :( [00:31] how can i check if the synaptics driver is even loaded ? [00:31] lsmod [00:33] well, either i'm blind or i can't see anything remote connected to it xD [00:33] it seems the driver isn't loaded :s [00:34] modprobe it [00:35] add it to /etc/modules [00:35] modprobe what... synaptics doesn't work [00:36] ohh it doesn't [00:39] what device do u have again [00:39] M912M [00:42] what does xinput list give you in erminal ? [00:42] +t [00:49] i have solution for your touchscreen Alastair https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/44781 [00:50] this is my xinput list [00:50] ohh lol [00:50] send again [00:50] lol [00:50] there's info on my touchpad too on that site xD [00:52] driver defenetly not loaded [00:54] I've just got the touchpad working on my M912M. The solution is simply to pass the option "i8042.noloop" to the kernel when booting. (Edit the root=vmlinuz line in the grub menu to add it). LOL [00:55] i'll try this now [00:57] i just write this at the end of the line or what ? [00:57] yup [00:59] LOL [00:59] it's alive [00:59] omg, thank you so much :D [00:59] :) [00:59] #---------------------------------------------- taken from menu.lst file [00:59] title Ubuntu 8.04.1, Hardy Heron [00:59] root (hd0,5) [00:59] kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=c09ba635-5bf4-4eb1-be04-7ae8e61dc758 ro quiet vga=773 splash -- i8042.noloop [00:59] initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic [00:59] quiet [00:59] #----------------------------------------------- taken from xorg.conf file [00:59] Section "InputDevice" [00:59] Identifier "Configured Mouse" [00:59] Driver "mouse" [00:59] Option "CorePointer" [00:59] Option "/dev/input/mice" [00:59] Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" [00:59] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [00:59] Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" [01:00] EndSection [01:00] from that page [01:00] ok...so now only the touchscreen issue is left on the table [01:00] brb got to change bedding [01:01] fix that from new driver given [01:01] on link [01:02] that driver doesn't work with intrepid [01:02] forgetthat ill change bedding in the morning , cant be bothered getting up now :) [01:02] nvm... the touchpad is enough for now :D [01:06] http://www.penmount.com.tw/Download/Driver/PenMount/gpm-1.20.1-penmount.tar build your own !! [01:06] :) [01:07] make [01:07] sudo make install :) [01:07] the modprobe it [01:07] thenP [01:08] but that means you'll need to build it for every new kernel update though [01:08] that doesn't work either xD the same error as the other driver [01:09] i'll just have to wait 'till they add support in the calibration tool, or for penmount's driver [01:10] moreover it is working at least partially... for the rest i'll use the pad :D [01:10] :) [01:10] thank you for finding that link xD [01:10] np [01:11] had my googling head on tonight :) [01:11] i searched google for hours, but never imagined the solution will be in the netbook-remix entry on launchpad... [01:13] i just googled gigabyte m912m touchpad :) [01:14] lol [01:14] i tried many combinations, and every one of them involved ubuntu xD [01:14] and was the 4th entry [01:15] sometimes the simplest solution is right infront of your eyes but you can't see it ^^ [01:15] btw. [01:15] is this permanent or will i have to enter it every time ? [01:15] that is what made me click ..... [01:15] I've just got the touchpad working on my M912M. ... the ps/2 mouse port on the motherboard and that has know problems in linux with kernels after 2.6.10. ... [01:15] :) [01:16] perm [01:16] you did edit menu.1st ? [01:17] or did you just edit grub on bootup ? [01:18] grub [01:18] btw. the scrolling and tapping is working too... [01:18] and much better than under windows i might add... [01:19] edit your /boot/menu.1st [01:20] then it will be perm [01:20] edit your /boot/grub/menu.1st even [01:21] thanks [01:38] did you notice any real improvement after tweaking the video ? [01:39] faster GL [01:39] how much fps do you get on glxgears ? [01:39] 2 sec i'll download [01:40] no need it is already installed :D [01:40] just type glxgears in terminal... [01:40] lol [01:40] hm... i see ~300fps improvement [01:42] 575 frames in 5.0 seconds = 114.817 FPS [01:42] 577 frames in 5.0 seconds = 115.378 FPS [01:42] 3254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 650.771 FPS [01:42] 3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.989 FPS [01:42] 3432 frames in 5.0 seconds = 686.218 FPS [01:42] 3117 frames in 5.0 seconds = 623.283 FPS [01:42] 3340 frames in 5.0 seconds = 667.988 FPS [01:42] 1166 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.789 FPS [01:42] 520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.911 FPS [01:42] 1007 frames in 5.0 seconds = 201.195 FPS [01:42] 494 frames in 5.0 seconds = 98.491 FPS [01:42] 568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.442 FPS [01:42] 1242 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.219 FPS [01:42] 459 frames in 5.0 seconds = 91.722 FPS [01:43] 646 frames in 5.0 seconds = 129.200 FPS [01:43] 3212 frames in 5.0 seconds = 642.354 FPS [01:43] lol lol stop xD [01:43] definitely works.... b4 this i got ~300fps [01:43] now it's almost double [01:44] :) [01:47] on my main pc i get around 13000 xD [01:48] lol [01:48] and that was with grossly underclocked video... [01:49] i wonder if the umpc will get a lpia kernel at some point [01:50] battery life sucks [01:50] i have around 2hrs with wifi [01:50] me 2 [01:50] my battery sux tho... [01:50] 4500mah [01:51] afaik the acer has bigger battery [01:52] have you tried the lpia image ? [01:52] 2200mAh [01:52] theoretically if it's x86 it should boot on a normal pc .. [01:52] yes on netbook remix [01:53] :s [01:53] my bat has twice the capacity yet survives for the same amount of time... wtf [01:54] my bios acpi or what ever it is must be better [01:55] nah [01:55] no matter how better it is this shouldn't be happening :s [01:55] :P [01:56] i guess the ssd is more economical, but even so .... [01:56] oh i did power saving mods to sdd [01:57] i have hdd version of ASPIRE ONE [01:57] oops [01:58] script polls sd reader to see if card is present and if not it powers it down [02:00] i will get bigger bat after new year sometime [02:01] hm...dunno... [02:01] i've seen external battery packs... [02:01] cheep? [02:01] but they cost almost as new pc .... [02:01] lol , sod that [02:07] i found a nice way to save bookmarks with midbrowser, grab icon in adrressbar and put on top taskbar [02:07] then move to desktop later [02:08] i removed the midbrowser asap... i'm too addicted to the classical firefox [02:15] :) [02:16] i guess you can always use F11 [02:16] To decrease boot time, activate concurrency bootup: sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc and replace the line: [02:17] * CONCURRENCY=none [02:17] with [02:17] * CONCURRENCY=shell [02:17] brb going to test that now [02:20] never noticed any difference , mabey on next boot [02:29] omg... what the heck... [02:29] did you see the size of gta4 x_x [02:29] 2 dual-layer dvds ... [02:30] lol [02:30] no blue ray :) [02:30] that standart was doomed from the beginning [02:32] we want holographic disks xD [02:33] there is a mic fix coming http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ef355da64ff087b6f26c4c28a14753861e83e4b [02:34] available in kernel 2.6.28-rc2 [02:35] hm... [02:36] i reckon 9.04 will be the distro for this machines... [02:37] they came out too late for intrepid devs to include support for them :/ [02:37] sudo update-manager -d and see a surprise [02:38] the wireless link is down, i can't xD [02:38] Welcome to Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope' = [02:38] *** THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE *** [02:38] The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope'. [02:39] yea, i know, they released the alpha some time ago... [02:39] i got to go for it , lets see what breaks [02:39] nothing yet [02:39] just incremental updates over intrepid...wait for the beta [02:40] 2 l8 [02:43] i guess i can just fill in bugs for a while until everything is running great on the AAO [02:48] bed time , good night [08:58] Hello everyone [08:58] Any python-guru around? [09:13] skotti_, just ask your question. maybe someone mght help you. [09:29] playya_: Thanks for the hint. [09:30] I'm trying to start an executable from within python using os.popen( os.P_NOWAIT , ) [09:30] I want the program to start (while i do a time.wait(X)) and then the pythin script executes a number of LDTP commands [09:32] But the process is not detached, popen blocks further execution [09:32] This is probably because a pipe is opened, but i don't need it. [09:54] skotti_, if you don't need the pipes you might use os.system [09:56] playya_: I tried that but the python script just stops [09:57] The program (be it gedit for convenience) opens and python waits for the process to end [10:00] could you paste some code? [10:01] yep [10:01] program = os.path.join( ' ','usr','bin','gedit' ) [10:01] print "hello" [10:02] os.system( program ) [10:02] print "hello again" [10:02] [...] [10:02] the second print is executed only if i manually close gedit [10:05] Alternativly i tried os.spawnl( os.P_NOWAIT, program ) which - to my surprise - does not start gedit but continues ok... [10:05] tried to remoce the os.P_NOWAIT ? [10:05] works for me [10:06] Trying now... [10:07] os.spawnl() takes at least 2 arguments [10:08] os.popen( program ) [10:08] [10:09] I get "No spawning" as message. [10:09] And then it waits for me to close gedit [10:11] ogra, you might want to put a not on the webpage about after you install the linux-backports-modules from /deb/ folder , after you do an update before you reboot , sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic ,mabey you could word it better than me and i hope you understand what i mean [10:11] good morning everyone [10:11] not=note P [10:13] if you reboot without doing so you won't have the linux-backport-modules-2.6.27-9-generic so you lose wifi [10:13] as kernel gets updated [10:14] playya_: Tricky thing, i have to give up on that for now. Anyway, thanks for your help, i appreciate that very much. [10:58] the current kernel version is 2.6.27-10 [10:59] but the backports version in the repos is older [10:59] so if you update you loose wifi anyway... [11:03] i have2.6.27-9-generic [11:05] says my system is upto date [11:05] ohh distro upgrade went wrong , no intel driver for xorg [11:06] sso had to redo everything [11:08] oh and good morning Alastair playya_ skotti_ cprov and everyone else :) [11:08] hagisbasheruk: morning. [11:08] Hi hagisbasheruk [11:09] playya_: Trivial solution to my popen-problem: assign the object. [11:09] f_obj = os.popen( somefile ) [11:10] good idea [11:10] i only tested it in the python shell [11:10] hi hagisbasheruk [11:10] :) [11:15] [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S01E19 - Love Letters - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/12/03/s01e19-love-letters/ [11:15] podcast time :) [11:17] mornin... [11:17] hagisbasheruk, maybe it depends on which update server are you using... [11:17] i'm using the main server [11:17] and the latest kernel is 27-10 :D [11:17] ahh using uk servers here [11:19] lol [11:19] at last i feel good about my quad :D [11:19] you got a quad bike :P [11:19] ppl say gta4 is making very good use [11:19] (of the extra cores) xD [11:20] good , what video card/s u using [11:20] currently 7950GT :( [11:20] 8600GT here [11:21] i had 3870 x2 [11:22] now i'm considering 9800gtx+ or 4850... [11:22] i should've tested the ati with ubuntu b4 i sold it :/ [11:22] i am never upgrading the pc now i have given it to the misses [11:26] :s [11:26] dunno... i'll never give up the big screen... ^^ [11:26] nor the processing power.. [11:26] the notebook is for outside use only :D [11:29] brb [11:29] aw [11:29] love my ISP xD [11:29] the gigabit connection rulez [11:32] ?? [11:33] 51MB/s download [11:33] from the local NAS [11:34] average speed 26,95 :p [11:35] whall !! [11:36] 7.04GB in under 3 minutes [11:37] i have 16 meg broad band , average 1.7Kb/s [11:37] Mb/s [11:37] even [11:37] yea, but wait for the shocker - i'm paying for thes goodness only 12.5 euro xD [11:38] can i get your isp here in uk :) [11:39] it is a branch of some international organisation afaik....maybe they have something in uk, dunno [11:39] how long have you had that type of speed ? [11:40] but the reason i'm getting such speeds is that both me and their NAS are connected to the same backbone fiber channel... [11:40] most of the users ain't that lucky [11:40] :) [11:41] lol [11:41] the second image averaged at 49MB/s xD [11:42] you should setup an ubuntu mirror :P [11:43] we already have one i think... and 2 more in bulgaria [11:44] idk if they completed it tho... [11:53] nah... they made debian and slack mirrors, the ubuntu one was cancelled [11:54] back la8 got stuff to do now === cprov is now known as cprov-away [13:15] morning ogra [13:16] hey NCommander [13:16] ogra, how goes it? [13:17] cursing rpm [13:17] the autofoo stuff is a total mess [13:18] :-) [13:18] MID on x86/amd64 should be usable AFAIK [13:18] THere are a still a few hildon specific things broken (on my todo list of things to look over) [13:19] but it should just work I hope [13:19] cool [13:19] We need to modify casper on mid however to work without an Ubuntu user :-) [13:19] uh, why ? [13:19] the settings package should create one [13:21] If you use ubiquity to install, you don't get one [13:21] I filed a bug about it [17:38] hello [17:38] superm1: hey, are you interested in sponsoring an upload of obex-data-server 0.4.2 ? [17:41] crevette, for jaunty? [17:41] superm1: yep, sorry [17:41] crevette, have you tested to make sure that it still works with the rest of the bluez stuff (at least the functional stuff) already? [17:41] superm1: I use it for weeks, it solvd the various we add with gnome-user-share [17:41] had [17:43] crevette, ah very good. sure i can sponsor it then. do you have it published somewhere for me to grab? [17:48] superm1: I'm trying to find a place and a way to host it because gvfs in jaunty seems broken for me [17:48] crevette, PPA perhaps? [17:48] I can host any file ? [17:49] well it's a source package that gets sponsored, and even get a free test build so i dont have to run one here :) [17:49] superm1: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bmillemathias/+archive [17:51] let me rebuild it for jaunty [17:51] as launchpad permit that === doko__ is now known as doko [20:10] crevette, i tried to build in my jaunty sbuild (amd64): http://pastebin.com/f2ab7c8a6 [20:11] so you'll need to sort out what's going on there [20:11] okay [20:11] it seems the package name has changed [20:12] thanks for hte feedback, I was busy until now [20:12] I was to push my package to ppa to test the build (I didn't build it for jaunty yet) [20:31] superm1: I saw that debian/ changes was now handled in bzr, should I do something to commit files ? [20:32] or provide you a patch ? [20:35] oh yeah i forgot that we moved it to bzr. yeah you should put together a bzr branch to merge or commit to yourself. [20:35] i believe it's owned by ubuntu-dev [20:41] yep it is [20:46] superm1: I don't understand why the dput server (don't know how it is called) denies me to upload my package stating intrepid has already such package but my package is for jaunty ... [20:47] this why I still not have uploaded it [20:47] +is === ogra_ is now known as ogra [23:44] * Hobbsee hopes crevette is *not* a MOTU [23:45] oh good. He isn't :) [23:45] * Hobbsee sends him an email to answer the question [23:46] Hobbsee, ? [23:47] persia: the last question above [23:47] * persia is still over a week behind on backscroll, and peeks ahead [23:48] persia: don't worry :) [23:49] Hobbsee, probably bluetooth-team PPA [23:49] persia: must be. There's nowhere else he could dput to, that it would work, i think [23:50] Well, own-PPA, but yeah.