[19:52] <Tumie> tyche: i'm thinking of an new way to get UWN-NL,, not translating the english issue,, but make a own UWN-NL,, so search for dutch news...
[19:52] <Tumie> i always have links in the issue with: http://example.com (English)..
[19:53] <tyche> You might still find things of interest in the English version of the UWN.  We try to highlight a cross-section, and not just the English speaking part of the world.
[19:56] <Tumie> tyche: yea,, but with the dutch one as basic,, it will work better
[19:56] <Tumie> if everybody can add news, it works better
[19:58] <tyche> No doubt.  But I can't really visualize what you are doing - the way that you're doing it.  That's not meant to be critical of you (more, critical of my abilities)  :-)
[20:04] <Tumie> if we use a dutch template as basic,, then put their dutch news into it (the whole week.. ).. then we check the importent news of the UWN. and translate them.. then we have more dutch news in the uwn.. and the importent english news...
[20:05] <tyche> That sounds reasonable.  Of course, I'm not the one to really say.  I'm just an associate editor, and really don't have the overall view of what is trying to be achieved with the UWN as a whole.
[20:06] <tyche> boredandblogging or johnc4510 would know more than I would.
[20:11] <Tumie> i've got positive reactions at people who help me..
[20:12] <tyche> I don't doubt it.  And it sounds good to me.
[20:49] <boredandblogging> Tumie: that sounds fine to me
[20:50] <boredandblogging> I can understand if the blog or press items are not useful
[20:50] <boredandblogging> but the general community news and LoCo news are interesting for everyone
[20:50] <tyche> Thanks, boredandblogging.  That's the sort of thing that I don't know enough about to be able to help wit.
[20:52] <Rinchen> howdy boredandblogging
[20:52] <Rinchen> I promise I'll be done this week and be back on here regular
[20:52] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: its cool
[20:53] <boredandblogging> you mind setting me up at accept new applicants to the Fridge LP team?
[20:53] <tyche> boredandblogging: Haven't we heard that one before?
[20:53] <Rinchen> boredandblogging, um sure!   In case I get hit by a bus? ;-)
[20:53] <Rinchen> btw, what do you guys think of a UDS session about the Fridge next May?
[20:53] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: exactly
[20:54] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: I was thinking we should do one next week
[20:54] <Rinchen> you can!
[20:54] <Rinchen> I just won't be there
[20:54] <boredandblogging> even if its ad-hoc without specs
[20:54] <Rinchen> I will be in Barcelona though
[20:54] <boredandblogging> that sounds more fun :-)
[20:54] <Rinchen> oh and if that's not announced, you didn't hear it from me.
[20:54] <Rinchen> :-)
[20:54] <boredandblogging> LOL
[20:55] <Rinchen> It may not be finalized... I never know until the announcement goes out a few weeks before
[20:55] <boredandblogging> i was thinking of getting some feedback on using Fridge for inter, intra, and external communications
[20:55] <boredandblogging> not really feedback...
[20:55] <boredandblogging> but how to push it along
[20:55] <Rinchen> yeah, I wanted to do it @ MTV but I just couldn't do it this time
[20:55] <Rinchen> but if you want to do it, great! Lead it!
[20:55] <Rinchen> I'll help out
[20:56] <Rinchen> I did want to do a formal UDS session (which requires some upfront planning) for the next UDS I attend
[20:56] <boredandblogging> right
[20:56] <boredandblogging> I would definitely like to see it pushed further
[20:57] <Rinchen> yeah me too. It needs love.
[20:57] <boredandblogging> not gonna have to that much time to prep before UDS, but let me see what I can come up with
[20:57] <Rinchen> ok boredandblogging, just remember, you can't add anyone to the fridge until they've gone through the email review (see the wik rules) otherwise mdke will leap through your monitor and knife you.
[20:58] <boredandblogging> heh
[20:58]  * tyche looks around for anti-knife software.
[20:59] <Rinchen> yeah, won't work.
[20:59] <boredandblogging> i also talked to newz2000 about putting in a wysiwyg editor
[20:59] <tyche> What port does a knife come through.  I can always block it.
[21:00] <kennymc0> they come through all ports
[21:00] <Rinchen> mdke = murder, death, kill, execution
[21:00] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: and upgrading Drupal, which isn't urgent
[21:01] <Rinchen> The fundamental issue is that the fridge runs on Canonical sponsored Hardware and thus is restricted in what software it can run, what upgrades and modules can be applied, and who has access.
[21:01] <Rinchen> if we REALLY wanted to see it progress....
[21:02] <Rinchen> we could lobby to have beuno put in charge of the graphics of the fridge
[21:02] <Rinchen> and let him do it.
[21:02] <Rinchen> beuno, has a job which would allow for it, unlike mine.
[21:03] <boredandblogging> yeah, newz2000 was saying the reason we didn't want to upgrade to Drupal 6 initially was it was too new, but thats not really an issue anymore
[21:03] <boredandblogging> beuno: are you going to let Rinchen volunteer you for this?
[21:03] <Rinchen> that and the event module doesn't exist
[21:04] <boredandblogging> yeah, the drupal upgrade isn't an issue, we are trying to get the google calendar <-> meeting bot thing figured out
[21:04] <Rinchen> well, there is another option
[21:04] <boredandblogging> if drupal isn't upgraded, no biggie
[21:05] <Rinchen> and that is, I could provide free hosting for the Fridge which would allow select community members to maintain it
[21:05] <Rinchen> I'm not sure how Canonical would react though.
[21:05] <Rinchen> I have one of those rare unlimited space and bandwidth accounts at Dreamhost
[21:06] <boredandblogging> I signed up for one of those last week :-)
[21:06] <boredandblogging> no use for it, but what the heck
[21:06] <boredandblogging> what would be the objection to moving it?
[21:06] <Rinchen> I host about 20 domains
[21:07] <boredandblogging> my real worry about off-loading is that Drupal releases a security update almost every other day
[21:07] <boredandblogging> i don't know if the Fridge gets those updates, but its a bit of a maintenance hell
[21:07] <Rinchen> the fridge does not
[21:07] <Rinchen> if you have DH service, you can set it up to email you
[21:07] <Rinchen> on update
[21:08] <boredandblogging> true
[21:08] <boredandblogging> what would Canonical object to the move?
[21:08] <boredandblogging> could we still keep the LP tie in?
[21:09] <Rinchen> The trade-off is that Canonical is more reliable and secure network-wise and costs us nothing.  DH you are dependent on someone (like me) and DH is not always reliable...auto-upgrades can take a site down for some time. But, you have fast tech support AND you can customize the installation to your hearts content
[21:09] <Rinchen> yeah the LP tie in can remain if I host it
[21:09] <Rinchen> well
[21:09] <Rinchen> period
[21:09] <Rinchen> we're opensourcing the drupal plugin
[21:09] <boredandblogging> ah ok
[21:09] <Rinchen> my preference will always be to have Canonical host it
[21:10] <Rinchen> and rope in folks like beuno to help
[21:10] <boredandblogging> :-P
[21:10] <Rinchen> but I need to make an effort to do a better job I guess
[21:10] <Rinchen> the fridge is thought of as a community effort but only Canonical resources work on it (except for actual stories) and they do so when they have time
[21:10] <Rinchen> which is rare to never
[21:11] <boredandblogging> beyond the calendar issue, we just need to get more people to contribute
[21:11] <boredandblogging> and I don't know if rearranging the way it looks would help
[21:11] <Rinchen> or find a new medium
[21:11] <Tumie> boredandblogging: thanks..
[21:11] <boredandblogging> cuz it looks like a blog, not a news site
[21:12] <Tumie> their will also comes an "Ubuntu-NL news" section
[21:12] <Rinchen> joomla works better for new related items but it's php
[21:12] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: maybe its a topic for discussion at UDS
[21:12] <boredandblogging> I can bring it up next week...
[21:13] <Rinchen> yes.  if I forget due to work, please poke me around March to start preping for the next UDS
[21:13] <Rinchen> bring up what you can
[21:13] <boredandblogging> will do
[21:13] <Rinchen> I will help you in any way possible with what you come up with at UDS
[21:13] <Rinchen> just remember to keep those on the mailing list informed.
[21:13] <boredandblogging> right, cool
[21:14] <Rinchen> and feel free to discuss other tools that would satisfy the requirements
[21:14] <Rinchen> remember that the ubuntu-meeting topic is updated based on the calendar so someone will need to change the irc bot which does that
[21:15] <Rinchen> ok, really have to get back to work!
[21:15] <Rinchen> need to finish this doc off
[21:15] <Rinchen> toodles