[02:24] <wgrant> superm1: gsd is screaming at me a lot now.
[02:24] <wgrant> Warning:          No symbols defined for <AB11> (keycode 97)
[02:24] <wgrant> And a few dozen related.
[02:49] <bryce> refreshed Ubuntu-X wiki a bit - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/
[06:41] <tjaalton> morning
[06:41] <tjaalton> ooh, pictures
[07:15] <tjaalton> sigh, can't find a reason why -intel doesn't pick the libdrm-intel1 dependency
[07:16] <tjaalton> unless it's the difference in compat between libdrm and drm-snapshot
[07:16] <tjaalton> other than that the diff is irrelevant
[08:15] <crevette> hello
[08:28] <tjaalton> hi
[08:39] <tjaalton> need to decide if we want to move XInput.h back in inputproto or not
[08:39] <tjaalton> 1.5 didn't move it, master did
[08:41] <crevette> I have a question about the consoles on tty1-6, it is displayed with a low resolution which is blurry on my laptop screen, it is possible to have it displayed in the native resolution?
[08:42] <crevette> this is not I use it everyday, but it would be better
[08:42] <tjaalton> which graphics hw?
[08:53] <crevette> Intel on thinkpad T61
[08:53] <crevette> which is funny it is worked one time when my xorg was broken :)
[08:54] <tjaalton> well, it might support kernel modesetting when 9.04 is out
[08:57] <crevette> and without mosetting is it possible to have it working or not ?
[08:59] <tjaalton> I don't know what blurry means in this case
[08:59] <tjaalton> it's low-res by default
[09:00] <tjaalton> and using vesafb-tricks bring other problems
[09:14] <crevette> okay
[09:14] <crevette> salut seb128 
[09:14] <seb128> lut crevette
[09:14] <crevette> tjaalton, I'll wait for a sane method to come up and I'll see
[09:15] <crevette> tjaalton, this is a TTM that make the Fedora 10 performance better on intel than ubuntu? I've seem some people stating the performance on F10 was back to a good framerate 
[09:16] <tjaalton> crevette: GEM
[09:16] <crevette> ah GEM sorry
[09:16] <tjaalton> it's just a requisite for KMS
[09:16] <tjaalton> and other things
[09:17] <tjaalton> well, helps performance too
[10:23] <seb128> hey tseliot
[10:23] <seb128> tseliot: no hurry for the gnome-desktop changes, the new version has a soname change too and that requires a transition, since I'm travelling tomorrow I'll probably not start on that today
[10:24] <crevette> seb128, you're moving to an ubuntu meeting ?
[10:24] <tseliot> seb128: ok, thanks
[10:24] <seb128> crevette: uds
[10:24] <tseliot> seb128: we'll meet at the uds then ;)
[10:25] <seb128> tseliot: right ;-)
[10:26]  * tseliot logs out to try driver 180.11
[11:20] <tseliot> tjaalton: are you (too) busy today?
[11:21] <tjaalton> tseliot: depends :)
[11:21] <tjaalton> I'll have lunch in a minute
[11:21] <tseliot> tjaalton: there's a new version of 180 for Jaunty: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/newlrm/pitti/jaunty/destination_jaunty1.txt
[11:22] <tseliot> which fixes a rather annoying problem
[11:22] <tjaalton> ok, I'll have a look after lunch
[11:22] <tseliot> thanks
[12:00] <crevette> bryce, around ?
[12:03] <tjaalton> rather late for him
[12:15] <crevette> tx tjaalton, I didn't if he was US or UK based
[12:21] <tjaalton> UTC-8 :)
[15:04] <tseliot1> tjaalton: I have updated my http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/newlrm/pitti/jaunty/destination_jaunty1.txt so as to include a patch for Jaunty's kernel for driver 177
[15:05] <tjaalton> tseliot1: right, I forgot about that.. downloading now
[15:06] <tseliot1> tjaalton: thanks
[15:11] <tjaalton> tseliot1: done
[15:11] <tseliot1> tjaalton: great, thanks a lot :-)
[15:13] <tjaalton> np
[15:13] <tjaalton> now lets see if mesa master builds
[15:22] <tseliot1> tjaalton: ah, I almost forgot, can you copy 177, 173, 96 to intrepid-proposed? I guess I'll have to modify the changelog for 180 to put it in intrepid-proposed too, right?
[15:24] <tjaalton> well it's the same for all of them
[15:25] <tjaalton> I can't copy packages from a pocket to another
[15:25] <tseliot1> tjaalton: ok, I'll change them all
[15:32] <tseliot1> tjaalton: shall I do a "debuild -S -sa" for 180?
[15:32] <tseliot1> or would a -S be enough?
[15:33] <tjaalton> I don't know..
[15:34] <tseliot1> tjaalton: the orig.tar.gz is already in the archive since you used it for Jaunty
[15:35] <tjaalton> ok then
[15:35] <tseliot1> tjaalton: -S then?
[15:35] <tjaalton> I guess
[15:36] <tseliot1> ok, let's try with -S
[15:40] <tseliot1> tjaalton: here you go: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/newlrm/pitti/destination.txt
[15:41] <tseliot1> tjaalton: as discussed with superm1 I think 180 can get into -proposed without using the backports since it won't be installed by default without the modaliases package
[15:46] <tjaalton> tseliot1: I'm not the release-manager.. they can drop it if it's not suitable there
[15:51] <tseliot1> tjaalton: right
[15:52] <tseliot1> let me know when you're done
[15:52] <tjaalton> um, you used the same version numbers?
[15:53] <tjaalton> I believe this should be dealt with a RM..
[15:54] <tseliot1> tjaalton: aah, does dput refuse to upload the source?
[15:55] <tjaalton> tseliot1: no, but -updates should not have same versions as the devel version, I think
[15:55] <tjaalton> besides, you should have a permission to upload stuff to -proposed first
[15:56] <tseliot1> tjaalton: actually I think this happens from time to time. pitti copied the packages from -proposed to jaunty with the same version
[15:56] <tseliot1> (in the past)
[15:56] <tjaalton> that's different
[15:56] <tseliot1> tjaalton: hmm
[15:56] <tjaalton> I'm sure he bumped the version too
[15:56] <tjaalton> it doesn't work the other way around
[15:57] <tjaalton> and he's an archive admin too
[15:59] <tseliot1> ok, I think I can ask slangasek about this
[16:00] <seb128> intrepid updates are copied to jaunty when the intrepid and jaunty version are identic
[16:00] <seb128> you can't upload the same version twice to intrepid and jaunty though
[16:00] <tseliot1> seb128: and would it be possible to copy from jaunty to intrepid?
[16:01] <seb128> either you have to use different versions or get the source copied on soyuz
[16:01] <seb128> no
[16:01] <seb128> because binaries are built on jaunty this way
[16:01] <seb128> and depends could change a lot
[16:01] <seb128> the copy is a source and binary one
[16:01] <seb128> copying the intrepid binaries to jaunty is no issue
[16:02] <seb128> but it wouldn't work the other way around due to shlibs changes, etc
[16:02] <tseliot1> ah, ok this makes sense
[16:04] <tseliot1> tjaalton: I guess I'll just bump the version then
[17:50] <solarion> anyone know why the MS optical mouse I got would middle-click when I right click and right click when I middle click?
[17:50] <solarion> seems rather bizarre and very highly annoying
[22:08] <solarion> nobody?
[22:08] <jcristau> solarion: try evtest on it, see what it reports
[22:09] <solarion> I don't see an evtest
[22:13] <solarion> yeah, pushing the button and listing state gives button[2,3]=down
[23:15] <solarion> nm, I just got a less crappy mouse.  :)
[23:15] <solarion> side scrolling even just worked right ootb