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bitmouseHey do you still have to use Ndiswrapper for WPC300N wireless card?00:50
DaveDixonIIHi, i just got a new monitor. How to i make xUbuntu notice it and use the resolutions?00:51
bitmouseHey do you still have to use Ndisgtk for WPC300N wireless card?00:53
bitmouseI just added a wireless card to my laptop, ndisgtk has been installed, and it sees my hardware, how do I find it's name "eth1" etc?01:01
Kiptionwouldn't ifconfig do that for you?01:02
bitmouseyeah, it's not showing up there, I've noticed that if I type "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" it takes the device down, and doesn't show up in that list anymore01:03
Kiptiontry wlan001:04
bitmouseso far no love with wlan0, ath0, or eth2, perhaps I need to reboot01:06
Kiptionperhaps, i don't know for sure though01:07
sinboxiwconfig for wireless no?01:11
bitmousenope, iwconfig hasn't returned anything new either01:11
sinboxusb or pcmcia?01:12
bitmousepcmcia01:12
bitmouseand other have reported success01:12
bitmousehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65138201:12
sinboxoh01:14
sinboxbroadcom driver01:14
bitmouseyeah01:14
bitmouseI am about to try a reboot, and I haven't deleted the files mentioned in the last forum entry there01:15
bitmousei will brb with an update for those who are interested01:15
bitmousealright got it working using the instructions at the bottom of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65138201:31
bitmouseyou were right, it was wlan001:34
itai_michaelsonhi, i want thunar to ask me "do you really want to delete thsi file" when i click delete, can i do that?01:37
sinboxdon't think so but then it only goes to the trash itai_michaelson01:41
itai_michaelsonsinbox, that's only if the file is on my disc but if i delete something on the network ....01:43
cody-somervilleMyrtti, welcome :)01:51
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arun_hi02:32
arun_i tried to install xubuntu 8.10 in my system with 256mb ram(shared).but it is utter slow installation and opartition failed.02:33
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evilbughow can i enable samba on my machine (8.10) so i can connect to other computers on the network?03:13
evilbugor enable file transferring between them.03:14
anarchticjust wondering if the pidgin but is fixed yet. the one where it maximizes the buddy list after making it visable from tray04:32
digi_hello05:21
digi_ I need to know how to get a app to the panel bar at the top05:21
digi_it wont right click add to panel05:21
Myrttielaborate a bit more?05:21
Myrttiyou want a quicklauncher?05:21
digi_i guess05:22
digi_ in ubuntu when you bring down the menu and see a app you might use more then not I would right click and add to panel05:23
digi_but in xubuntu right just opens it05:23
Myrttiyes, surprisingly this is xfce, not gnome ;-)05:23
digi_he he05:24
digi_ so let me guess I have to add it manually05:24
Myrttidigi_: unfortunately you really have to 'add new item' manually05:24
bernshelp pls., I've installed scribus and I think it's working fine but this msg appears05:39
bernsErrors were encountered while processing:05:40
berns tcl8.405:40
berns tk8.405:40
berns blt05:40
berns python-tk05:40
berns scribus05:40
bernsE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:40
Myrttiin future, please use some pastebin service for those messages, mmm?05:40
Myrtti!paste | berns05:40
ubottuberns: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)05:40
bernsok, sorry and thnks05:40
Myrttihm05:41
microlithanyone ever end up with the hide button not being visible in the title bar despite being set as active in the window manager? it's also greyed out in the context menu of the window title bar.05:59
microlithnix that, I'm just not paying attention to xfce windows06:19
generalsnus.07:59
generalsnusWhat is the best disk cloning tool, i can use for linux? i have a HD here, id like to clone.  ive tried ghost, but it wont find my external hd, so i can save a image08:01
Myrttidd08:04
Guest41567hi12:08
bprizethis is probably a complete noob question...but whats the maximum amount of ram that xubuntu supports?14:17
cody-somervillebprize, 32bit of 62bit version?14:18
bprizeShould have specified....32 bit version.  Sorry.14:19
cody-somervilleI think its 4GB if I'm not mistaken14:19
bprizeone site says 4, another says 16, and another says 64...14:19
TheSheepno way to address more than 4GB with 32 bits...14:27
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packri1Ben voilà y du monde ici. Je cherche des renseignement sur xfce en francais ?15:27
TheSheep!fr15:27
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr15:27
packri1Merci ubottu, je pose ma questionsur #ubuntu-fr.15:28
wirawan0test15:47
fonzarellireceived15:49
knomefailed15:49
charlie-tcatest does not seem to be here15:51
wirawan0oh..somebody is here.15:55
charlie-tca!somebody15:55
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?15:55
wirawan0Sorry. I am just poking as the forum seems to be quiet.15:55
wirawan0Hehehe :) I have a real question in my mind.15:56
wirawan0I have a laptop that has two interfaces (eth0 = wired, eth1 = wireless --> ipw2200)15:56
charlie-tcaThere are 72 people here, but most will wait for a question or are busy working15:56
wirawan0Both are pointing to the same routing, like this:15:56
wirawan0http://paste.ubuntu.com/79863/15:57
wirawan0when both are active like that, somehow the outbound network would not work.15:58
charlie-tcawirawan0: both interfaces, eth0 and eth1 are on the IP address. You need to have them use different addresses.15:59
wirawan0when I ping past the gw (e.g. ping 209.85.171.100  [this is google]) it stopped working when the two interfaces are up.15:59
wirawan0yes, they have different address. In this case, eth1 has 192.168.0.177 and eth0 has 192.168.0.176 .16:00
charlie-tcaI don´t know, then16:03
wirawan0Somehow in the past this worked in Ubuntu 7.04. I wonder if NetworkManager has something to do with it.16:03
wirawan0charlie-tca: Do you have any pointer about how Linux networking works? I am quite puzzled about this thing but don't know where to start.16:04
charlie-tca!networking16:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about networking16:04
charlie-tcaLet me look a minute16:04
wirawan0charlie-tca; if you want more technical info from my laptop pls let me know.16:08
|ntegra|woah", I've been wrestling with this nm-applet for about 5 hours now, "what. a. mission."16:09
wirawan0integra: what do you mean?16:10
|ntegra|well, I'm dual-booting and I set a new password for my wireless connection (I've got it working in windows) and I can't get the connection right using the (top-right-corner) wireless icon+gui-applet16:14
|ntegra|wirawan0: have you had success with wireless and nm/nm-editor/nm-applet at all?16:15
neozen|ntegra|: nm-editor?16:16
|ntegra|wirawan0: your name suggests you might have aye16:16
neozen|ntegra|: that one's new to me16:16
|ntegra|neozen: in term, type nm> & tabx2    >>I could use nm-editor to delete my old passkey/account to start afresh16:18
wirawan0ntegra: I have not used nm-applet for a while now. I reverted back to using /etc/network/interfaces , as that seems to be easy and powerful enough to serve my purposes. Jsust to let you know: I am using wired interface (eth0) whenever available. It is enabled manually through ifup and ifdown command. eth1 is by default on, and it can detect the wireless network (which ESSID, etc.) automatically via "mapping" section. I wrote a custom script for 16:19
|ntegra|wirawan0: oh.k, where did you read up on the /etc/network/interfaces to start with? (I don't think I can write a custom script alone)16:21
wirawan0I can share my custom script if you want. It's not that long.16:26
wirawan0What I do to set up? I use the following references:16:28
wirawan0(1)   man 5 interfaces;16:28
wirawan0(2)   files in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/16:28
|ntegra|cool, would you mind pastebinning the script for me to look at?16:30
wirawan0the helper script is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79877/ . The interfaces should look like this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79884/16:34
wirawan0you'll need to change the MAC, ESSID, and WEP key. Using WPA/WPA2 is a different beast.16:35
wirawan0but what are you trying to do with nm-applet earlier that you cannot do for 5 hours?16:36
|ntegra|I put the essid+wpa-passphrase in, but it just shows bars (no spinning dots) so it looks connected, but I can't get a webpage/ping >you know what I mean? (I'm also looking at nm-editor again on the wiki >thanx for the alternate option to look at)16:39
|ntegra|I put the essid+wpa-passphrase in, but it just shows bars (no spinning dots) so it looks connected, but I can't get a webpage/ping >you know what I mean?16:42
fonzarellican you ping the IP of your router16:43
|ntegra|I'ma have a smoke and then get back into it with nm-editor ( fonzarelli -I only tried google, I'll try that too) and adding it again16:44
|ntegra|wirawan0: fonzarelli: if you're here in ten I'll keep y'all posted (I'ma be wired in btw wireless attempts)16:45
wirawan0aaghh... that WPA thing again. I don't know how to do it witn nm-applet. That's part of the reason I gave up nm-applet.16:47
|ntegra|hmm 4rel16:48
Shaba1can anyone help me set up vnc on xubuntu19:01
fonzarelliShaba1: check out this link:  http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/remote-desktop-vnc-access-on-xubuntu-xfce-810/19:02
Shaba1thanks fonzarelli. I am checking it out now19:04
Shaba1fonzarelli you still here?19:06
fonzarelliyes19:07
Shaba1OK I have to step over to my xubuntu laptop to try that.19:07
Shaba1I am on my windows desktop right now19:07
Shaba1Oh and I have several other questions on xubuntu.19:11
Shaba1I just had to reinstall it and I lost all my settings for wicd and vnc and other things19:11
fonzarellik19:13
Shaba1apt-get is getting it now19:14
Aquinahy @ll!19:17
Shaba1fonzarelli it says the archive is not availible19:20
Shaba1or soemthing to that effect19:20
fonzarelliShaba1: is that whe you try to apt-get install vino19:27
Shaba1ok.19:27
Shaba1the laptop was not connected to the wireless network19:28
fonzarellii mean do you get that error when you try to install19:28
fonzarelliahh, ok19:28
Shaba1which is the next problem to fix.19:28
Shaba1Getting wicd to start automagically19:28
Shaba1BTW I am very versed with windows. But linux is a whole new world19:29
fonzarellii personally use network manager on my laptop since it comes pre-installed19:30
Shaba1I remember before I reinstalled xubuntu that wicd was much easier19:35
neozenShaba1: to each their own, but its usually best to try working w/ the default installs when starting out unless you personally despise those defaults for good reasons19:36
Shaba1oK fonzarelli How do I find "Autostarted Applications"19:37
Shaba1that page that you sent me too says to add "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to the Autostarted Applications19:37
Shaba1but I do not see that anywhere on the applications drop down.19:38
Shaba1hello19:41
TheSheepShaba1: in settings manager19:42
Shaba1ok what applet in settings manager19:43
TheSheep'autostarted applications', the very first one19:43
Shaba1TheSheep btw I am reading this on my windows desktop and walking over and doing it on my xubuntu laptop19:43
Shaba1brb19:43
Shaba1Ok restarting the machine19:48
Shaba1I hope this works19:48
Shaba1After this is how do I NOT have to enter a username and password every time I go to the xubuntu side of the machine19:49
TheSheepShaba1: in login window settings yu can set automatic login19:51
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Shaba1thanks19:55
Shaba1Ok19:55
Shaba1I am going to try to log into the laptop using vnc19:55
Shaba1wish me luck19:55
Shaba1Eureka19:56
Shaba1thanks fonzarelli and TheSheep19:56
Shaba1now20:02
Shaba1if I can just get the wicd sys try icon to show up like it use to before I reinstalled20:02
Shaba1hint hint hint20:02
knomeShaba1, do you have wicd installed?20:02
Shaba1yepper20:03
Shaba1its working20:03
neozenShaba1: heh.... well... do you have a system tray on your panel?20:03
Shaba1that is how I connect the laptop to the internet20:03
Shaba1panel?20:03
Shaba1ok how do I add that20:03
Shaba1<---- windows person neozen. Learning linux.20:03
neozenpanel... the thing icons and your app menu shows up up in20:03
neozenShaba1: np on the windows...20:04
neozenShaba1: you have a default install of xu?20:04
neozentray should be in the upper right20:04
neozenof your screen20:04
Shaba1I do not know which version I have neozen20:05
Shaba1I do not think it is the most recent20:05
Shaba1probably hardy?20:05
neozenShaba1: well... unless you've changed your panel configuration from the default, it'll be in the upper right20:06
neozen...alternatively, you could re-add the tray to an existing panel20:06
Shaba1Ok I see the systray20:07
neozenShaba1: cool... the icon in it?20:07
Shaba1its there showing me the updat icon20:07
Shaba1and then vino icon20:07
Shaba1but wicd is not there20:07
Shaba1even though I have that option check in the autostart applications applet20:07
neozenShaba1: hmm... not really sure how wicd works... do you remember having to run some other program to get it to show up in the tray?20:08
Shaba1nope20:08
Shaba1its been so long since I reinstalled20:08
Shaba1I forgot what I did.20:08
Shaba1sorry20:08
Shaba1to seem like such a rank newbie20:08
neozenShaba1: bummer20:08
Shaba1wicd is working20:09
neozenShaba1: heh... we were all newbies once20:09
Shaba1or I woudl not be able to vnc into the laptop from this desktop20:09
Shaba1But i remember before I reinstall xu that it use to have a tray icon that would show you connection speed and network connect to e.t.c20:10
Shaba1Just like to have that back again instead of mystery connection if you know what I mean20:10
neozenShaba1: yeah... network-manager-gnome can give you that20:11
neozenShaba1: is default installed20:11
Shaba1I would assume so since I am vncing into the laptop from this windows machine right now.20:12
neozenShaba1: if all else fails, running iwconfig in a terminal window will tell you which network you're wirelessly connected to20:13
Shaba1hold on neozen let me do that20:14
Shaba1all that info is correct for my wireless router neozen20:16
Shaba1just does not show me what is managaing the wireless connection20:16
neozenShaba1: you have encryption turned on on your router?20:16
neozenShaba1: if not, and network manager is running, its probably controlling your card20:17
neozenShaba1: run nm-applet in the terminal, another icon will show up in your tray... poke it20:17
neozenShaba1: should see a list of networks20:17
Shaba1yep I have wep turned on my router20:18
neozenShaba1: I c20:19
Shaba1it says bash: nm-apple: command not found20:20
knomenm-apple? :P20:21
Shaba1nm-applet is what I meant to type20:22
SpiegelHello20:23
SpiegelAnyone able to help me with a samba issue on 8.1020:24
Spiegelmore specificly, how to properly downgrade libsmbclient down to the hardy version20:24
Spiegelor if there is a better way20:25
meinGottWalterhi, iam search a alternative for compiz for gnome20:39
meinGottWalterplz querry20:39
steph33560hi there21:17
steph33560ia script, I use xfdesktop --reload to refresh my wallpaper , but when used with cron xfdesktop don't works21:18
steph33560any idea why ?21:18
TheSheepsteph33560: use 'killall -USR1 xfdesktop'21:18
steph33560what does USR1 stands for ?21:19
steph33560TheSheep,  simple exit?21:19
TheSheepit's the name of the signal that's being sent to the process21:19
TheSheepno, exit would be SIGINT21:19
steph33560TheSheep, thanks, that was the solution21:20
steph33560now time to understand ;)21:20
TheSheepsee man kill21:20
steph33560still reading it :)21:21
TheSheepbasically, xfdesktop reacts to the USR1 signal with swithing to the next wallpaper21:22
steph33560haaa... that's why ...21:23
steph33560maybe I rtfm xfdesktop to know it ...21:23
steph33560:)21:23
knometoo bad cron can't be run more than once in a sec ;)21:24
TheSheepknome: use sleep at the beginning of a script21:25
steph33560anyway, thanks TheSheep ! I would indeed had to search for a while21:27
R1cochet!mouse21:40
ubottuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto21:40
R1cochet!change mouse21:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about change mouse21:40
R1cochet!mouse cursor21:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mouse cursor21:40
R1cochethow do i add new cursors for the mouse?21:41
Recursiv3I ran Xubuntu 8.10 off my flash drive. There is no application called Network under Applications>System. How do I set up my wireless network without the Network application?21:45
R1cochetis the app in ur panel at the top?21:46
knomeR1cochet, see "Mouse" from Settings Manager. Tab "Cursor"21:46
R1cochetknome: i want to add more cursors to the list21:47
Recursiv3I have the "Network Manager Applet" in my system tray.21:48
Recursiv3It allows me to edit the connections but I see no way to connect.21:48
knomeR1cochet, /usr/share/icons -> extract package there (should create /themename/cursors)21:49
R1cochetlf click :)21:49
R1cochetRecursiv3: left click on the applet21:49
R1cochetknome: thank you21:50
Recursiv3R1cochet, then what?21:50
R1cochetit should show a list of all available connections21:50
Recursiv3It doesn't.21:51
R1cochetweird21:51
R1cochetwhat does it show21:51
R1cochetwhen you rt click do you have wireless ticked?21:51
Recursiv3The four options are Enable Networking, which is checked; Connection Information, which is greyed out; Edit Connections; and About;21:51
R1cochetis ur wireless adaptor turned on?21:52
Recursiv3I believe so.21:52
Recursiv3IDK, but IDK why it wouldn't be.21:52
R1cochetis there a network in range?21:53
Recursiv3Yes.21:53
R1cochetwell usually built in cards have an on/off switch21:53
R1cochetmake sure its on21:53
Recursiv3I have used the wireless network under another operating system.21:53
Recursiv3I don't think there's a switch.21:54
R1cocheti dunno then21:56
R1cochetmine pops right up21:56
Recursiv3Hmm, I found something that might help, I'll check it out.21:59
R1cochetgl :)22:00
Recursiv3What is a persistent install?22:10
Recursiv3So, I'm using this fix for my problem22:13
Recursiv3https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes22:13
Recursiv3Ït says that I should do sudo -s; echo blacklist ath_pci >>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist22:14
Recursiv3However, the directory /etc/modprobe.d does not exist.22:14
Recursiv3There is a /etc/blacklist  ; should I just use that?22:14
robileno22:17
robileif u have xubuntu installed i think there HAS to be a /modeprobe.d22:18
robileif not, then create it22:18
robilewell no22:18
robilethere HAS to be one22:18
robile:22:18
robile:)22:18
robiletaking a shower brb22:19
Recursiv3IDK.22:21
Recursiv3I have Xubuntu on a Live USB drive.22:22
Recursiv3Meh, nvm, I mistyped it.22:23
wickedfableHello22:25
wickedfableI'm having a problem installing Adobe Flash Player. I've tried some solutions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634126&page=4 But nothing seems to work22:26
wickedfableDoes anyone have a little time to help out? I'd greatly appreciate it.22:27
R1cochetthe player or the plugin?22:27
wickedfableUm, the plugin for Firefox22:28
R1cochetopen synaptic22:28
wickedfableI think.22:28
R1cochetinstall the "xubuntu-restricted" pack22:28
wickedfableIt opens then closes?22:29
wickedfableUs that supposed to happen?22:29
wickedfableIs*22:29
R1cochetno22:29
wickedfableDoes that mean there is something wrong with my installation?22:29
nuvanI've installed the ssh server, and am trying to change the port it runs on.  I've modified the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file to include Port 1352, but the server still starts on 22.  Any idea why?22:29
R1cocheti dunno22:29
wickedfableHmm22:29
R1cochetdo you have system youpdate ryounning?22:29
wickedfableUh, I think so22:30
wickedfableThe little icon in the top?22:30
R1cochetsystem update*22:30
Odd-rationalenuvan: change it in the sshd_config file22:30
wickedfableThat checks for updates?22:30
R1cochetwell you can only have 1 package manager ryounning at a time22:30
nuvanOdd-rationale: *headdesk*22:30
R1cochetrunning*22:30
robilewickedfable, already tried to just go to macromedia.com (or sth like that) and click und "install adobe flash" plugin?22:30
robileworked for me22:30
Odd-rationalenuvan: sshd_config for the server config, ssh_config for the client config... :P22:30
wickedfableYes, I have22:31
wickedfableIt asks me to do a manual install.22:31
robilewickedfable, arent u asked to download a .deb file ?22:31
wickedfableOh. yes, it asks me to select a file.22:31
R1cochetyou will want to install "xyoubyountyou-retricted plyougins* from synaptic on a fresh install. grabs flash plyougin, java and all those other plyougins youll need22:31
Odd-rationalenuvan: you might have to `sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart` when you are done.22:31
wickedfableI chose .deb and when I tried to install it, it did, but apaprently it did not work.22:32
wickedfableBecause I still can't see Flash movies in Firefox22:32
nuvanOdd-rationale: I'd even ls'd the directory because I wasn't sure what the config file was named, and still I missed that there was ssh_ and sshd_ files... *facepalm*.  done, thanks.22:32
robilewickedfable, then i cant help u sry22:32
wickedfableAh, okay.22:32
wickedfableThanks for trying/22:32
Odd-rationalenuvan: np22:32
wickedfableEvery time I try to load the .deb file it simply loads then closes.22:33
wickedfableI would guess that that shouldn't happen no matter what.22:34
wickedfableBefore it showed the contents and stuff and had a button to install, now the bar just loads then the .deb file closes.22:34
wickedfableWell, I'll try Google to resolve the Synaptic Package Manager problem.22:39
wickedfableThanks for the help.22:39
lsimmonds2008hello23:20
lsimmonds2008help :P23:29
charlie-tca!help23:32
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charlie-tca!question23:33
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:33

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