[00:50] <bitmouse> Hey do you still have to use Ndiswrapper for WPC300N wireless card?
[00:51] <DaveDixonII> Hi, i just got a new monitor. How to i make xUbuntu notice it and use the resolutions?
[00:53] <bitmouse> Hey do you still have to use Ndisgtk for WPC300N wireless card?
[01:01] <bitmouse> I just added a wireless card to my laptop, ndisgtk has been installed, and it sees my hardware, how do I find it's name "eth1" etc?
[01:02] <Kiption> wouldn't ifconfig do that for you?
[01:03] <bitmouse> yeah, it's not showing up there, I've noticed that if I type "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" it takes the device down, and doesn't show up in that list anymore
[01:04] <Kiption> try wlan0
[01:06] <bitmouse> so far no love with wlan0, ath0, or eth2, perhaps I need to reboot
[01:07] <Kiption> perhaps, i don't know for sure though
[01:11] <sinbox> iwconfig for wireless no?
[01:11] <bitmouse> nope, iwconfig hasn't returned anything new either
[01:12] <sinbox> usb or pcmcia?
[01:12] <bitmouse> pcmcia
[01:12] <bitmouse> and other have reported success
[01:12] <bitmouse> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651382
[01:14] <sinbox> oh
[01:14] <sinbox> broadcom driver
[01:14] <bitmouse> yeah
[01:15] <bitmouse> I am about to try a reboot, and I haven't deleted the files mentioned in the last forum entry there
[01:15] <bitmouse> i will brb with an update for those who are interested
[01:31] <bitmouse> alright got it working using the instructions at the bottom of this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651382
[01:34] <bitmouse> you were right, it was wlan0
[01:37] <itai_michaelson> hi, i want thunar to ask me "do you really want to delete thsi file" when i click delete, can i do that?
[01:41] <sinbox> don't think so but then it only goes to the trash itai_michaelson
[01:43] <itai_michaelson> sinbox, that's only if the file is on my disc but if i delete something on the network ....
[01:51] <cody-somerville> Myrtti, welcome :)
[02:32] <arun_> hi
[02:33] <arun_> i tried to install xubuntu 8.10 in my system with 256mb ram(shared).but it is utter slow installation and opartition failed.
[03:13] <evilbug> how can i enable samba on my machine (8.10) so i can connect to other computers on the network?
[03:14] <evilbug> or enable file transferring between them.
[04:32] <anarchtic> just wondering if the pidgin but is fixed yet. the one where it maximizes the buddy list after making it visable from tray
[05:21] <digi_> hello
[05:21] <digi_>  I need to know how to get a app to the panel bar at the top
[05:21] <digi_> it wont right click add to panel
[05:21] <Myrtti> elaborate a bit more?
[05:21] <Myrtti> you want a quicklauncher?
[05:22] <digi_> i guess
[05:23] <digi_>  in ubuntu when you bring down the menu and see a app you might use more then not I would right click and add to panel
[05:23] <digi_> but in xubuntu right just opens it
[05:23] <Myrtti> yes, surprisingly this is xfce, not gnome ;-)
[05:24] <digi_> he he
[05:24] <digi_>  so let me guess I have to add it manually
[05:24] <Myrtti> digi_: unfortunately you really have to 'add new item' manually
[05:39] <berns> help pls., I've installed scribus and I think it's working fine but this msg appears
[05:40] <berns> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:40] <berns>  tcl8.4
[05:40] <berns>  tk8.4
[05:40] <berns>  blt
[05:40] <berns>  python-tk
[05:40] <berns>  scribus
[05:40] <berns> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:40] <Myrtti> in future, please use some pastebin service for those messages, mmm?
[05:40] <Myrtti> !paste | berns
[05:40] <berns> ok, sorry and thnks
[05:41] <Myrtti> hm
[05:59] <microlith> anyone ever end up with the hide button not being visible in the title bar despite being set as active in the window manager? it's also greyed out in the context menu of the window title bar.
[06:19] <microlith> nix that, I'm just not paying attention to xfce windows
[07:59] <generalsnus> .
[08:01] <generalsnus> What is the best disk cloning tool, i can use for linux? i have a HD here, id like to clone.  ive tried ghost, but it wont find my external hd, so i can save a image
[08:04] <Myrtti> dd
[12:08] <Guest41567> hi
[14:17] <bprize> this is probably a complete noob question...but whats the maximum amount of ram that xubuntu supports?
[14:18] <cody-somerville> bprize, 32bit of 62bit version?
[14:19] <bprize> Should have specified....32 bit version.  Sorry.
[14:19] <cody-somerville> I think its 4GB if I'm not mistaken
[14:19] <bprize> one site says 4, another says 16, and another says 64...
[14:27] <TheSheep> no way to address more than 4GB with 32 bits...
[15:27] <packri1> Ben voilà y du monde ici. Je cherche des renseignement sur xfce en francais ?
[15:27] <TheSheep> !fr
[15:28] <packri1> Merci ubottu, je pose ma questionsur #ubuntu-fr.
[15:47] <wirawan0> test
[15:49] <fonzarelli> received
[15:49] <knome> failed
[15:51] <charlie-tca> test does not seem to be here
[15:55] <wirawan0> oh..somebody is here.
[15:55] <charlie-tca> !somebody
[15:55] <wirawan0> Sorry. I am just poking as the forum seems to be quiet.
[15:56] <wirawan0> Hehehe :) I have a real question in my mind.
[15:56] <wirawan0> I have a laptop that has two interfaces (eth0 = wired, eth1 = wireless --> ipw2200)
[15:56] <charlie-tca> There are 72 people here, but most will wait for a question or are busy working
[15:56] <wirawan0> Both are pointing to the same routing, like this:
[15:57] <wirawan0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/79863/
[15:58] <wirawan0> when both are active like that, somehow the outbound network would not work.
[15:59] <charlie-tca> wirawan0: both interfaces, eth0 and eth1 are on the IP address. You need to have them use different addresses.
[15:59] <wirawan0> when I ping past the gw (e.g. ping 209.85.171.100  [this is google]) it stopped working when the two interfaces are up.
[16:00] <wirawan0> yes, they have different address. In this case, eth1 has 192.168.0.177 and eth0 has 192.168.0.176 .
[16:03] <charlie-tca> I don´t know, then
[16:03] <wirawan0> Somehow in the past this worked in Ubuntu 7.04. I wonder if NetworkManager has something to do with it.
[16:04] <wirawan0> charlie-tca: Do you have any pointer about how Linux networking works? I am quite puzzled about this thing but don't know where to start.
[16:04] <charlie-tca> !networking
[16:04] <charlie-tca> Let me look a minute
[16:08] <wirawan0> charlie-tca; if you want more technical info from my laptop pls let me know.
[16:09] <|ntegra|> woah", I've been wrestling with this nm-applet for about 5 hours now, "what. a. mission."
[16:10] <wirawan0> integra: what do you mean?
[16:14] <|ntegra|> well, I'm dual-booting and I set a new password for my wireless connection (I've got it working in windows) and I can't get the connection right using the (top-right-corner) wireless icon+gui-applet
[16:15] <|ntegra|> wirawan0: have you had success with wireless and nm/nm-editor/nm-applet at all?
[16:16] <neozen> |ntegra|: nm-editor?
[16:16] <|ntegra|> wirawan0: your name suggests you might have aye
[16:16] <neozen> |ntegra|: that one's new to me
[16:18] <|ntegra|> neozen: in term, type nm> & tabx2    >>I could use nm-editor to delete my old passkey/account to start afresh
[16:19] <wirawan0> ntegra: I have not used nm-applet for a while now. I reverted back to using /etc/network/interfaces , as that seems to be easy and powerful enough to serve my purposes. Jsust to let you know: I am using wired interface (eth0) whenever available. It is enabled manually through ifup and ifdown command. eth1 is by default on, and it can detect the wireless network (which ESSID, etc.) automatically via "mapping" section. I wrote a custom script for 
[16:21] <|ntegra|> wirawan0: oh.k, where did you read up on the /etc/network/interfaces to start with? (I don't think I can write a custom script alone)
[16:26] <wirawan0> I can share my custom script if you want. It's not that long.
[16:28] <wirawan0> What I do to set up? I use the following references:
[16:28] <wirawan0> (1)   man 5 interfaces;
[16:28] <wirawan0> (2)   files in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/
[16:30] <|ntegra|> cool, would you mind pastebinning the script for me to look at?
[16:34] <wirawan0> the helper script is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79877/ . The interfaces should look like this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79884/
[16:35] <wirawan0> you'll need to change the MAC, ESSID, and WEP key. Using WPA/WPA2 is a different beast.
[16:36] <wirawan0> but what are you trying to do with nm-applet earlier that you cannot do for 5 hours?
[16:39] <|ntegra|> I put the essid+wpa-passphrase in, but it just shows bars (no spinning dots) so it looks connected, but I can't get a webpage/ping >you know what I mean? (I'm also looking at nm-editor again on the wiki >thanx for the alternate option to look at)
[16:42] <|ntegra|> I put the essid+wpa-passphrase in, but it just shows bars (no spinning dots) so it looks connected, but I can't get a webpage/ping >you know what I mean?
[16:43] <fonzarelli> can you ping the IP of your router
[16:44] <|ntegra|> I'ma have a smoke and then get back into it with nm-editor ( fonzarelli -I only tried google, I'll try that too) and adding it again
[16:45] <|ntegra|> wirawan0: fonzarelli: if you're here in ten I'll keep y'all posted (I'ma be wired in btw wireless attempts)
[16:47] <wirawan0> aaghh... that WPA thing again. I don't know how to do it witn nm-applet. That's part of the reason I gave up nm-applet.
[16:48] <|ntegra|> hmm 4rel
[19:01] <Shaba1> can anyone help me set up vnc on xubuntu
[19:02] <fonzarelli> Shaba1: check out this link:  http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/remote-desktop-vnc-access-on-xubuntu-xfce-810/
[19:04] <Shaba1> thanks fonzarelli. I am checking it out now
[19:06] <Shaba1> fonzarelli you still here?
[19:07] <fonzarelli> yes
[19:07] <Shaba1> OK I have to step over to my xubuntu laptop to try that.
[19:07] <Shaba1> I am on my windows desktop right now
[19:11] <Shaba1> Oh and I have several other questions on xubuntu.
[19:11] <Shaba1> I just had to reinstall it and I lost all my settings for wicd and vnc and other things
[19:13] <fonzarelli> k
[19:14] <Shaba1> apt-get is getting it now
[19:17] <Aquina> hy @ll!
[19:20] <Shaba1> fonzarelli it says the archive is not availible
[19:20] <Shaba1> or soemthing to that effect
[19:27] <fonzarelli> Shaba1: is that whe you try to apt-get install vino
[19:27] <Shaba1> ok.
[19:28] <Shaba1> the laptop was not connected to the wireless network
[19:28] <fonzarelli> i mean do you get that error when you try to install
[19:28] <fonzarelli> ahh, ok
[19:28] <Shaba1> which is the next problem to fix.
[19:28] <Shaba1> Getting wicd to start automagically
[19:29] <Shaba1> BTW I am very versed with windows. But linux is a whole new world
[19:30] <fonzarelli> i personally use network manager on my laptop since it comes pre-installed
[19:35] <Shaba1> I remember before I reinstalled xubuntu that wicd was much easier
[19:36] <neozen> Shaba1: to each their own, but its usually best to try working w/ the default installs when starting out unless you personally despise those defaults for good reasons
[19:37] <Shaba1> oK fonzarelli How do I find "Autostarted Applications"
[19:37] <Shaba1> that page that you sent me too says to add "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to the Autostarted Applications
[19:38] <Shaba1> but I do not see that anywhere on the applications drop down.
[19:41] <Shaba1> hello
[19:42] <TheSheep> Shaba1: in settings manager
[19:43] <Shaba1> ok what applet in settings manager
[19:43] <TheSheep> 'autostarted applications', the very first one
[19:43] <Shaba1> TheSheep btw I am reading this on my windows desktop and walking over and doing it on my xubuntu laptop
[19:43] <Shaba1> brb
[19:48] <Shaba1> Ok restarting the machine
[19:48] <Shaba1> I hope this works
[19:49] <Shaba1> After this is how do I NOT have to enter a username and password every time I go to the xubuntu side of the machine
[19:51] <TheSheep> Shaba1: in login window settings yu can set automatic login
[19:55] <Shaba1> thanks
[19:55] <Shaba1> Ok
[19:55] <Shaba1> I am going to try to log into the laptop using vnc
[19:55] <Shaba1> wish me luck
[19:56] <Shaba1> Eureka
[19:56] <Shaba1> thanks fonzarelli and TheSheep
[20:02] <Shaba1> now
[20:02] <Shaba1> if I can just get the wicd sys try icon to show up like it use to before I reinstalled
[20:02] <Shaba1> hint hint hint
[20:02] <knome> Shaba1, do you have wicd installed?
[20:03] <Shaba1> yepper
[20:03] <Shaba1> its working
[20:03] <neozen> Shaba1: heh.... well... do you have a system tray on your panel?
[20:03] <Shaba1> that is how I connect the laptop to the internet
[20:03] <Shaba1> panel?
[20:03] <Shaba1> ok how do I add that
[20:03] <Shaba1> <---- windows person neozen. Learning linux.
[20:03] <neozen> panel... the thing icons and your app menu shows up up in
[20:04] <neozen> Shaba1: np on the windows...
[20:04] <neozen> Shaba1: you have a default install of xu?
[20:04] <neozen> tray should be in the upper right
[20:04] <neozen> of your screen
[20:05] <Shaba1> I do not know which version I have neozen
[20:05] <Shaba1> I do not think it is the most recent
[20:05] <Shaba1> probably hardy?
[20:06] <neozen> Shaba1: well... unless you've changed your panel configuration from the default, it'll be in the upper right
[20:06] <neozen> ...alternatively, you could re-add the tray to an existing panel
[20:07] <Shaba1> Ok I see the systray
[20:07] <neozen> Shaba1: cool... the icon in it?
[20:07] <Shaba1> its there showing me the updat icon
[20:07] <Shaba1> and then vino icon
[20:07] <Shaba1> but wicd is not there
[20:07] <Shaba1> even though I have that option check in the autostart applications applet
[20:08] <neozen> Shaba1: hmm... not really sure how wicd works... do you remember having to run some other program to get it to show up in the tray?
[20:08] <Shaba1> nope
[20:08] <Shaba1> its been so long since I reinstalled
[20:08] <Shaba1> I forgot what I did.
[20:08] <Shaba1> sorry
[20:08] <Shaba1> to seem like such a rank newbie
[20:08] <neozen> Shaba1: bummer
[20:09] <Shaba1> wicd is working
[20:09] <neozen> Shaba1: heh... we were all newbies once
[20:09] <Shaba1> or I woudl not be able to vnc into the laptop from this desktop
[20:10] <Shaba1> But i remember before I reinstall xu that it use to have a tray icon that would show you connection speed and network connect to e.t.c
[20:10] <Shaba1> Just like to have that back again instead of mystery connection if you know what I mean
[20:11] <neozen> Shaba1: yeah... network-manager-gnome can give you that
[20:11] <neozen> Shaba1: is default installed
[20:12] <Shaba1> I would assume so since I am vncing into the laptop from this windows machine right now.
[20:13] <neozen> Shaba1: if all else fails, running iwconfig in a terminal window will tell you which network you're wirelessly connected to
[20:14] <Shaba1> hold on neozen let me do that
[20:16] <Shaba1> all that info is correct for my wireless router neozen
[20:16] <Shaba1> just does not show me what is managaing the wireless connection
[20:16] <neozen> Shaba1: you have encryption turned on on your router?
[20:17] <neozen> Shaba1: if not, and network manager is running, its probably controlling your card
[20:17] <neozen> Shaba1: run nm-applet in the terminal, another icon will show up in your tray... poke it
[20:17] <neozen> Shaba1: should see a list of networks
[20:18] <Shaba1> yep I have wep turned on my router
[20:19] <neozen> Shaba1: I c
[20:20] <Shaba1> it says bash: nm-apple: command not found
[20:21] <knome> nm-apple? :P
[20:22] <Shaba1> nm-applet is what I meant to type
[20:23] <Spiegel> Hello
[20:24] <Spiegel> Anyone able to help me with a samba issue on 8.10
[20:24] <Spiegel> more specificly, how to properly downgrade libsmbclient down to the hardy version
[20:25] <Spiegel> or if there is a better way
[20:39] <meinGottWalter> hi, iam search a alternative for compiz for gnome
[20:39] <meinGottWalter> plz querry
[21:17] <steph33560> hi there
[21:18] <steph33560> ia script, I use xfdesktop --reload to refresh my wallpaper , but when used with cron xfdesktop don't works
[21:18] <steph33560> any idea why ?
[21:18] <TheSheep> steph33560: use 'killall -USR1 xfdesktop'
[21:19] <steph33560> what does USR1 stands for ?
[21:19] <steph33560> TheSheep,  simple exit?
[21:19] <TheSheep> it's the name of the signal that's being sent to the process
[21:19] <TheSheep> no, exit would be SIGINT
[21:20] <steph33560> TheSheep, thanks, that was the solution
[21:20] <steph33560> now time to understand ;)
[21:20] <TheSheep> see man kill
[21:21] <steph33560> still reading it :)
[21:22] <TheSheep> basically, xfdesktop reacts to the USR1 signal with swithing to the next wallpaper
[21:23] <steph33560> haaa... that's why ...
[21:23] <steph33560> maybe I rtfm xfdesktop to know it ...
[21:23] <steph33560> :)
[21:24] <knome> too bad cron can't be run more than once in a sec ;)
[21:25] <TheSheep> knome: use sleep at the beginning of a script
[21:27] <steph33560> anyway, thanks TheSheep ! I would indeed had to search for a while
[21:40] <R1cochet> !mouse
[21:40] <R1cochet> !change mouse
[21:40] <R1cochet> !mouse cursor
[21:41] <R1cochet> how do i add new cursors for the mouse?
[21:45] <Recursiv3> I ran Xubuntu 8.10 off my flash drive. There is no application called Network under Applications>System. How do I set up my wireless network without the Network application?
[21:46] <R1cochet> is the app in ur panel at the top?
[21:46] <knome> R1cochet, see "Mouse" from Settings Manager. Tab "Cursor"
[21:47] <R1cochet> knome: i want to add more cursors to the list
[21:48] <Recursiv3> I have the "Network Manager Applet" in my system tray.
[21:48] <Recursiv3> It allows me to edit the connections but I see no way to connect.
[21:49] <knome> R1cochet, /usr/share/icons -> extract package there (should create /themename/cursors)
[21:49] <R1cochet> lf click :)
[21:49] <R1cochet> Recursiv3: left click on the applet
[21:50] <R1cochet> knome: thank you
[21:50] <Recursiv3> R1cochet, then what?
[21:50] <R1cochet> it should show a list of all available connections
[21:51] <Recursiv3> It doesn't.
[21:51] <R1cochet> weird
[21:51] <R1cochet> what does it show
[21:51] <R1cochet> when you rt click do you have wireless ticked?
[21:51] <Recursiv3> The four options are Enable Networking, which is checked; Connection Information, which is greyed out; Edit Connections; and About;
[21:52] <R1cochet> is ur wireless adaptor turned on?
[21:52] <Recursiv3> I believe so.
[21:52] <Recursiv3> IDK, but IDK why it wouldn't be.
[21:53] <R1cochet> is there a network in range?
[21:53] <Recursiv3> Yes.
[21:53] <R1cochet> well usually built in cards have an on/off switch
[21:53] <R1cochet> make sure its on
[21:53] <Recursiv3> I have used the wireless network under another operating system.
[21:54] <Recursiv3> I don't think there's a switch.
[21:56] <R1cochet> i dunno then
[21:56] <R1cochet> mine pops right up
[21:59] <Recursiv3> Hmm, I found something that might help, I'll check it out.
[22:00] <R1cochet> gl :)
[22:10] <Recursiv3> What is a persistent install?
[22:13] <Recursiv3> So, I'm using this fix for my problem
[22:13] <Recursiv3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[22:14] <Recursiv3> Ït says that I should do sudo -s; echo blacklist ath_pci >>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:14] <Recursiv3> However, the directory /etc/modprobe.d does not exist.
[22:14] <Recursiv3> There is a /etc/blacklist  ; should I just use that?
[22:17] <robile> no
[22:18] <robile> if u have xubuntu installed i think there HAS to be a /modeprobe.d
[22:18] <robile> if not, then create it
[22:18] <robile> well no
[22:18] <robile> there HAS to be one
[22:18] <robile> :
[22:18] <robile> :)
[22:19] <robile> taking a shower brb
[22:21] <Recursiv3> IDK.
[22:22] <Recursiv3> I have Xubuntu on a Live USB drive.
[22:23] <Recursiv3> Meh, nvm, I mistyped it.
[22:25] <wickedfable> Hello
[22:26] <wickedfable> I'm having a problem installing Adobe Flash Player. I've tried some solutions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634126&page=4 But nothing seems to work
[22:27] <wickedfable> Does anyone have a little time to help out? I'd greatly appreciate it.
[22:27] <R1cochet> the player or the plugin?
[22:28] <wickedfable> Um, the plugin for Firefox
[22:28] <R1cochet> open synaptic
[22:28] <wickedfable> I think.
[22:28] <R1cochet> install the "xubuntu-restricted" pack
[22:29] <wickedfable> It opens then closes?
[22:29] <wickedfable> Us that supposed to happen?
[22:29] <wickedfable> Is*
[22:29] <R1cochet> no
[22:29] <wickedfable> Does that mean there is something wrong with my installation?
[22:29] <nuvan> I've installed the ssh server, and am trying to change the port it runs on.  I've modified the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file to include Port 1352, but the server still starts on 22.  Any idea why?
[22:29] <R1cochet> i dunno
[22:29] <wickedfable> Hmm
[22:29] <R1cochet> do you have system youpdate ryounning?
[22:30] <wickedfable> Uh, I think so
[22:30] <wickedfable> The little icon in the top?
[22:30] <R1cochet> system update*
[22:30] <Odd-rationale> nuvan: change it in the sshd_config file
[22:30] <wickedfable> That checks for updates?
[22:30] <R1cochet> well you can only have 1 package manager ryounning at a time
[22:30] <nuvan> Odd-rationale: *headdesk*
[22:30] <R1cochet> running*
[22:30] <robile> wickedfable, already tried to just go to macromedia.com (or sth like that) and click und "install adobe flash" plugin?
[22:30] <robile> worked for me
[22:30] <Odd-rationale> nuvan: sshd_config for the server config, ssh_config for the client config... :P
[22:31] <wickedfable> Yes, I have
[22:31] <wickedfable> It asks me to do a manual install.
[22:31] <robile> wickedfable, arent u asked to download a .deb file ?
[22:31] <wickedfable> Oh. yes, it asks me to select a file.
[22:31] <R1cochet> you will want to install "xyoubyountyou-retricted plyougins* from synaptic on a fresh install. grabs flash plyougin, java and all those other plyougins youll need
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> nuvan: you might have to `sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart` when you are done.
[22:32] <wickedfable> I chose .deb and when I tried to install it, it did, but apaprently it did not work.
[22:32] <wickedfable> Because I still can't see Flash movies in Firefox
[22:32] <nuvan> Odd-rationale: I'd even ls'd the directory because I wasn't sure what the config file was named, and still I missed that there was ssh_ and sshd_ files... *facepalm*.  done, thanks.
[22:32] <robile> wickedfable, then i cant help u sry
[22:32] <wickedfable> Ah, okay.
[22:32] <wickedfable> Thanks for trying/
[22:32] <Odd-rationale> nuvan: np
[22:33] <wickedfable> Every time I try to load the .deb file it simply loads then closes.
[22:34] <wickedfable> I would guess that that shouldn't happen no matter what.
[22:34] <wickedfable> Before it showed the contents and stuff and had a button to install, now the bar just loads then the .deb file closes.
[22:39] <wickedfable> Well, I'll try Google to resolve the Synaptic Package Manager problem.
[22:39] <wickedfable> Thanks for the help.
[23:20] <lsimmonds2008> hello
[23:29] <lsimmonds2008> help :P
[23:32] <charlie-tca> !help
[23:33] <charlie-tca> !question