| Riddell | hi seele | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | I have no idea what time it is | 00:00 |
| seele | 22:03 for you I imagine | 00:04 |
| Riddell | I'm pretty sure it's not, it's all bright sunshine around here | 00:04 |
| seele | oh.. whoops, wrong way | 00:05 |
| seele | 16:03 lol | 00:05 |
| Riddell | ok, watch set, hoping that's right | 00:07 |
| Riddell | seele: hmm, what day is it? | 00:07 |
| seele | Riddell: Wednesday Dec 3 2008 | 00:10 |
| Riddell | sorted, thanks | 00:10 |
| seele | glad to know your head is on properly | 00:10 |
| Riddell | I'm in a foreign continent and my servers are down, I'm quite out of place | 00:11 |
| Riddell | fortunatly this university doesn't seem to mind people wandering in and using their computers, I wonder if they'll let me sleep here tonight | 00:12 |
| seele | of course it only goes down when youre off in a foreign land | 00:12 |
| Riddell | always the way | 00:12 |
| seele | sleep in a computer lab? i dont see why not | 00:12 |
| seele | everyone should sleep in a computer lab at least once | 00:12 |
| Riddell | it'll take me back to my uni days | 00:12 |
| * seele has more uni days coming up | 00:13 | |
| seele | i wonder if it will bring back memories or just make me feel old | 00:13 |
| Riddell | you'll soon be boozing until the early hours before finnishing assignments in one night | 00:16 |
| seele | i wasn't boozing every night at uni! | 00:19 |
| Riddell | you started boozing in the daytime?! | 00:21 |
| seele | because i was studying at night! | 00:22 |
| seele | ok, so i wasnt studying | 00:23 |
| Riddell | doing KDE stuff? | 00:24 |
| seele | no.. this is pre-kde | 00:25 |
| Riddell | back in the dark days... | 00:25 |
| seele | actually.. i might have even been using gnome at the time, hah | 00:25 |
| Riddell | eek! | 00:25 |
| seele | pre kde 2.0, come on and give me a break | 00:25 |
| seele | i was probably in a terminal most of the time if i wasnt in the lab for photoshop or burning illegal mp3s on 1x burners | 00:26 |
| Riddell | what a rebel | 00:26 |
| seele | back then it was so new it wasn't illegal | 00:27 |
| Riddell | I'm sure you changed to oggs as soon as you knew you were infringing on the MP3 patent licence | 00:27 |
| seele | haha | 00:28 |
| seele | this was before the lab had a combination lock and a no-eating policy | 00:28 |
| seele | i knew better than to balance an open box of pizza on a computer case -- that's just asking for trouble | 00:29 |
| * seele reminisces | 00:29 | |
| seele | even after the combination lock, it wasn't a problem | 00:29 |
| seele | hmm | 00:29 |
| * seele stops before she starts talking about the trouble she caused while in uni | 00:30 | |
| Riddell | why oh why does this country not use standard mobile phones | 00:30 |
| seele | it's strange your phone wont work here. youre probably the first european i know to have that problem | 00:31 |
| seele | you should be able to piggyback on someone's gsm network | 00:31 |
| Riddell | I specifically borrored this overly-fancy phone so it should work here | 00:31 |
| seele | and it doesn't? | 00:32 |
| Riddell | nope | 00:32 |
| seele | hah | 00:32 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: how many ways does it flip open? | 00:32 |
| Riddell | none, though it swivels round | 00:33 |
| Riddell | I wonder if it's worth buying a phone while I'm here | 00:33 |
| seele | does it have a qwerty keyboard for fancy sms? | 00:33 |
| Riddell | no | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | swivel-y || flips open in 2 or more ways = fancy | 00:33 |
| Riddell | it's slow and not very usable | 00:33 |
| seele | there are probably some cheap pay-as-you-go phones, although it probably isn't worth it. most people's phones should work | 00:34 |
| seele | unless you go wandering off by yourself, but if you find yourself in a ditch, a ringing phone wont save you | 00:34 |
| Riddell | I do plan some wandering week after next | 00:35 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: people might have spare handsets, which you can use your sim in | 00:38 |
| Hobbsee | is there an old gsm network over there? | 00:38 |
| Riddell | no, just one that uses different frequencies from the rest of the world | 00:39 |
| seele | 60s and sunny for the next 10 days, how nice | 00:39 |
| seele | i wont miss the 30s and 40s with icy rain that DC will have | 00:39 |
| Riddell | I hear they even still use the primitive Farenheight temperature scale :) | 00:40 |
| seele | Hobbsee: you need a multi-ban phone for it to work over here | 00:40 |
| Hobbsee | seele: which bands? | 00:40 |
| Hobbsee | i knew the 3g network was different to the rest of the world | 00:40 |
| seele | uhm.. i'd have to look up my phone specs to answer that one | 00:40 |
| seele | Riddell: one time i gave an int'l friend my temp in C and he thought i was talking in F | 00:41 |
| seele | besides.. when in Rome :P | 00:41 |
| seele | Hobbsee: US is 850 and 1900 MHz and International is 900 and 1800 MHz | 00:46 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 00:47 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: POkE!! | 00:53 |
| nixternal | seele: I won't miss our foot of snow either :) | 00:54 |
| * DaSkreech pokes nixternal as well | 00:54 | |
| nixternal | no poking...I am getting ready to eat! | 00:54 |
| * Hobbsee steals nixternal's food, and runs away to the land of gnome. | 00:54 | |
| nixternal | NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! | 00:54 |
| nixternal | nixternal->eat(); | 00:55 |
| seele | nixternal: you definitely have worse weather than me :) | 00:55 |
| DaSkreech | Isn't nixternal in the land of footsie ? | 00:55 |
| seele | nixternal: i have to bring a large suitcase just so i can pack my wool coat for traveling in DC | 00:55 |
| seele | DaSkreech: ? | 00:55 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: yes, but i'm further in it, presumably :P | 00:55 |
| DaSkreech | seele: He's a Gnome :) | 00:55 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: You have a passport he just has a visitors permit :) | 00:56 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 00:56 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: are you coming to Camp? | 00:56 |
| DaSkreech | You too apachelogger | 00:56 |
| * DaSkreech isn't inviting Hobbsee | 00:56 | |
| DaSkreech | too far to swim | 00:57 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 00:57 |
| * Hobbsee thwaps DaSkreech | 00:57 | |
| DaSkreech | You wanna come you know it :-P | 00:58 |
| * DaSkreech whispers to Hobbsee "Bring nixternal's grub" | 00:58 | |
| Hobbsee | heh | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | qt4-x11 takes forever to do a source debuild | 01:01 |
| Ramblurr | is anyone having problems using qt4 designer in intrepid? | 01:07 |
| nixternal | Ramblurr: what kind of problem? | 01:08 |
| Ramblurr | Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries | 01:08 |
| Ramblurr | that error ^ | 01:08 |
| DaSkreech | oooooh Hobbsee What do you think of Gnome 3.0 ? | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: so far, i've been avoiding it | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: it seems they're going to do kde4-like things, but beyond that, i've nt been watching | 01:09 |
| JontheEchidna | Ramblurr: do you have anything that might also include it's own set of Qt libs? | 01:10 |
| JontheEchidna | *any piece of software installed | 01:10 |
| Ramblurr | my kde trunk checkout? but that's installed in a separate dir | 01:10 |
| JontheEchidna | it could be that designer is getting confused about which Qt to use | 01:10 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: What KDE4 like things? | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: i think they're going to play around with the plasma-equivalent stuff | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | as in, the desktop, the panels, etc. | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | but i've not looked in close detail | 01:11 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm I guess I've missed that discussion | 01:11 |
| DaSkreech | THey are going to rewrite the desktop? | 01:11 |
| DaSkreech | That doesn't seem Gnome like or GTK like | 01:11 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: didn't there used to be a problem that Qt would sometimes use cached libs of a different version for pure Qt apps? | 01:12 |
| JontheEchidna | DaSkreech: KDE will have had 2 years head start by then too :P | 01:12 |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: Doesn't matter who came first :) | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | they were looking at playing around with bits of it | 01:13 |
| DaSkreech | The important part is Microsoft not saying Look We did this!! | 01:13 |
| * Hobbsee didn't watch it very carefully | 01:13 | |
| DaSkreech | which they are already doing with Windows 7 | 01:13 |
| DaSkreech | it looks almost exactly like KDE4 | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | Actually it looks more like Kicker with transparency turned on | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 01:13 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Where did you glance this? | 01:14 |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: I'm talking about the structure of having plasmoids do all the work with layers of plasmoids taht can be amanipulaed | 01:14 |
| DaSkreech | manipulated | 01:14 |
| * DaSkreech pokes nixternal with the Pointy Stick of Noticeme!!! | 01:14 | |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, they did totally rip that off | 01:14 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: er, planet ubuntu a while ago, iirc. | 01:15 |
| DaSkreech | bah i don't wanna troll through that :-( Do you remember who said it? I can troll their blog | 01:16 |
| JontheEchidna | jono linked to it in one of his blogs | 01:18 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 01:18 |
| DaSkreech | Did Wade just post an empty blog? | 01:18 |
| Ramblurr | JontheEchidna: im not sure how my qt-copy install could be interferring with qtdesigner | 01:19 |
| Ramblurr | i've got a separate bashrc i use when i want to use qt-copy/kde trunk | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: vincent? | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | unz or something? | 01:22 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm ok | 01:22 |
| * DaSkreech trolls twice | 01:22 | |
| DaSkreech | Hmm Gwenview is pretty nice with nepomuk | 01:23 |
| DaSkreech | And digikam is pretty nice with marble | 01:23 |
| DaSkreech | nooooow | 01:23 |
| DaSkreech | If Digikam would get nepomuked.... | 01:24 |
| JontheEchidna | anybody up for testing KDE 4.1.80 for Intrepid? | 01:28 |
| JontheEchidna | If I can get one or two more people to install the packages I can copy them over to the release PPA | 01:28 |
| JontheEchidna | Just report any dpkg failures if you run into them | 01:29 |
| DaSkreech | What's the rub? | 01:30 |
| * stdin points JontheEchidna to #kubuntu-testers | 01:30 | |
| DaSkreech | will it install alongside KDE 4.1.? | 01:30 |
| JontheEchidna | DaSkreech: nope | 01:30 |
| JontheEchidna | From my testing though that's not much of a problem ;-) | 01:31 |
| JontheEchidna | kde 4.2 rocks | 01:31 |
| DaSkreech | ummm | 01:31 |
| DaSkreech | how long to install? | 01:33 |
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| DaSkreech | O_o | 02:13 |
| DaSkreech | Panels are being proposed to be hard coded in Gnome 3? | 02:14 |
| * DaSkreech hops on Hobbsee | 03:00 | |
| * Hobbsee is hopped on | 03:00 | |
| * Hobbsee throws DaSkreech in the pool | 03:00 | |
| DaSkreech | wheeee | 03:01 |
| r0uzic | oh hai | 04:21 |
| r0uzic | i have problems with upgrade to kde 4.2 beta 1 | 04:25 |
| r0uzic | the oxygen-icons package | 04:25 |
| r0uzic | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack): | 04:25 |
| r0uzic | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-front.png', which is also in package koffice-data-kde4 | 04:25 |
| stdin | poke JontheEchidna | 04:26 |
| jussi01 | Ive also got an issue with the upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80177/ | 05:32 |
| * jussi01 pokes JontheEchidna and stdin and NCommander and anyone else interested | 05:32 | |
| NCommander | jussi01, what does dpkg --configure -a say? | 05:33 |
| DaSkreech | What's the problem? | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs5-dev: | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | kdelibs5-dev depends on pkg-kde-tools; however: | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | Package pkg-kde-tools is not installed. | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | dpkg: error processing kdelibs5-dev (--configure): | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | Errors were encountered while processing: | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | kdelibs5-dev | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | gah | 05:33 |
| jussi01 | that was a little bigger than I thought | 05:34 |
| jussi01 | looks like apt-get install -f will fix though | 05:34 |
| DaSkreech | Ok | 05:34 |
| jussi01 | not quite | 05:35 |
| jussi01 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/80178/ | 05:35 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: I can force that somehow though? | 05:36 |
| jussi01 | now, the moment of truth... | 05:41 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01: Sorry you got it? | 05:42 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: yeah, just did: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb | 05:42 |
| jussi01 | ok, gonna log out now and try it out | 05:43 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 05:44 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01: Don't forget Ctrl+E | 05:44 |
| jussi01_ | DaSkreech: NCommander its borked. doesnt log in | 06:05 |
| jussi01_ | just returns to the login screen | 06:05 |
| NCommander | what? | 06:05 |
| NCommander | I dunno what's wrong specifically | 06:05 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01_: What does a terminal login say? | 06:05 |
| jussi01_ | I got a feeling its cause a few packages were held back for some reason | 06:06 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01_: LOL :-) | 06:06 |
| DaSkreech | jussi01_: try instaling them | 06:06 |
| jussi01_ | DaSkreech: hehe, why are they held back at a dist upgrade? | 06:08 |
| * jussi01_ asks forgiveness for stupidity, as he is on morphine atm | 06:09 | |
| jussi01_ | :D | 06:09 |
| DaSkreech | I don't know I had gwenview be held back I did a normal install of it and it installed it fine and went on to greatness | 06:09 |
| jussi01_ | DaSkreech: ok, Ill play around and see | 06:10 |
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| glade88 | if I have nightly, is it equiv to having the beta? | 06:58 |
| DaSkreech | No | 06:58 |
| glade88 | DaSkreech: and, will I lose 4.1.3 after upgrading to 4.2 beta 1 ? | 07:00 |
| DaSkreech | Yes | 07:00 |
| * glade88 takes the chance.. upgrades to 4.2 beta 1 | 07:00 | |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 07:03 |
| jussi01 | DaSkreech: it took a bit, but sorted and running now, though I still get some bluetooth crash | 07:23 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 07:25 |
| jussi01 | THIS IS LOVELY :D | 07:25 |
| DaSkreech | ha ha :) | 07:25 |
| DaSkreech | Open Kmail | 07:25 |
| jussi01 | why? | 07:26 |
| DaSkreech | Cause it's pretty :) | 07:32 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm I should ook at Gwenview | 07:32 |
| aftertaf | hi guys . . . | 07:52 |
| aftertaf | really well done once again with 4.2.... serious... it's getting more and more people going to it, and all are so impressed :) | 07:53 |
| aftertaf | just one (silly) question.... which is latest version, neon, or kubuntu-experimental, for 4.2 beta? | 07:53 |
| aftertaf | i imagine its neon, at its nightly cvs commits......... and its also installed separatelt to 4.1... | 07:54 |
| hunger | What is up with kdegames etc.? That was build successfully yesterday (according to LP), but is still not in the archives. | 08:48 |
| hunger | kdepim was build much later and is. | 08:48 |
| * hunger can not report bugs in LP at this time since he can not access kwallet since KDE 4.2 is broken:-( | 09:22 | |
| hunger | kjots tries to overwrite a icon also in kmail, kmouth tries to overwrite a icon also in kde-icons-mono. | 09:23 |
| hunger | And kde 4.2 does not start up properly at all:-( kdeinit seems to crash. | 09:25 |
| * hunger even deleted .kde*, did not help. | 09:26 | |
| jussi01 | hunger: i HAVE IT WORKING AFTER SIMILAR ISSUES | 09:49 |
| jussi01 | oh crap | 09:49 |
| jussi01 | stupid caps | 09:49 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: =) | 09:51 |
| jussi01 | hunger: I just force-all 'ed those packages | 09:51 |
| hunger | jussi01: Does kde start for you? | 09:55 |
| hunger | Do you have all the new packages? Or is kdegames etc. stlill old? | 09:56 |
| jussi01 | hunger: I had to also install kubuntu-desktop again to get it to start | 10:01 |
| jussi01 | and manually install all the packages it held back | 10:02 |
| jussi01 | hunger: but yeah, it starts and runs nicely | 10:07 |
| hunger | Hmmm... where is the current kate? | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | hunger: kdesdk | 10:09 |
| hunger | kdesdk is still at version 4.1.2:-( | 10:10 |
| hunger | It was build yesterday, but I still can't see it on archive.ubuntu.com:-( | 10:11 |
| NCommander | hey lool | 10:13 |
| Tm_T | 1213.05 < piquadrat> Hi. Kopete in kubuntu's KDE 4.2 Beta1 builds has the same dependancy problem as in kde-neon: it depends on libmsn, which is not packaged by ubuntu. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/project-neon/+bug/301333 | 10:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 301333 in project-neon "Kopete 4.2 needs libmsn" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 10:13 |
| jpetso | "If you come across any issue which may be packaging related, it is recommended that you join the Kubuntu IRC channel and query those in the channel for assistance." | 10:14 |
| jpetso | since i have no need for assistance, i thought i just come here | 10:14 |
| jpetso | quote: | 10:14 |
| jpetso | Unpacking pkg-kde-tools (from .../pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb) ... | 10:14 |
| jpetso | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): | 10:14 |
| jpetso | trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts | 10:14 |
| jpetso | Errors were encountered while processing: | 10:14 |
| jpetso | /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb | 10:14 |
| jpetso | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 10:14 |
| jpetso | when upgrading to 4.2 | 10:14 |
| hunger | jpetso: Please use a pastebin for such lengthy cut and paste things. | 10:15 |
| jpetso | k | 10:15 |
| jpetso | kdesdk-scripts is shown to be auto-removable, it just wasn't removed because the package didn't indicate a conflict | 10:16 |
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| jpds | nixternal: Sure, I'm on the same flight as ivoks; we'll see you there. | 13:04 |
| jpds | nixternal: We have to pass through the US migration stuff, so the 30 minutes shouldn't be a problem. | 13:06 |
| NCommander | hey nixternal | 13:38 |
| Tm_T | hmm, no Ubuntu, I notice -> http://www.ocert.org/team_and_members.html | 13:56 |
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| rgreening | Sime: ping | 14:15 |
| * JontheEchidna good mornings rgreening | 14:20 | |
| jjesse_ | monring | 14:20 |
| jjesse_ | rgreening did you see that greg-g will be joining us on our supershuttle | 14:20 |
| hunger | JontheEchidna: Morning! | 14:20 |
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| hunger | Any ideas where the kde 4.2 debs went to? They are not yet on archive.ubuntu.com, even though they were build successfully yesterday. | 14:21 |
| * JontheEchidna shurgs | 14:21 | |
| jjesse | aren't they on the ppa? | 14:21 |
| hunger | Some showed up, others did not. | 14:21 |
| JontheEchidna | lol, shurgs | 14:21 |
| hunger | jjesse: There are some for jaunty. | 14:21 |
| jjesse | ah | 14:21 |
| jjesse | ignore me i don't know what i'm talking about :) | 14:22 |
| hunger | JontheEchidna: Any idea who I can ask where those debs went? | 14:22 |
| jjesse | updating intrepid kde | 14:22 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 14:22 |
| JontheEchidna | what arch? | 14:22 |
| jjesse | me? i386 | 14:23 |
| JontheEchidna | was directed at hunger | 14:23 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 14:23 |
| * jjesse hides in the corner and shuts up | 14:23 | |
| hunger | JontheEchidna: x86. | 14:23 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 14:23 |
| JontheEchidna | I really don't know why you aren't seeing updates | 14:24 |
| hunger | JontheEchidna: LP said it was build successfully. | 14:24 |
| hunger | I do see kdepim, kdeutils and some more (even kdenetwork which was delayed), but not kdegames, kdegraphics, etc. | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | are you sure they are not being held back? | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | kdegames and kdegraphics both install new packages this time around | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | (new games, lib transition for graphics) | 14:25 |
| hunger | JontheEchidna: I search kdegames in aptitude | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 14:25 |
| hunger | JontheEchidna: pressing "v" gives me 4:4.1.3-1ubuntu1 as only available version. | 14:25 |
| rgreening | jjesse: yeah. np | 14:25 |
| rgreening | morning JontheEchidna | 14:26 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: do you know how to use KProcess in pyKDE4? | 14:26 |
| hunger | apt-get -u dist-upgrade says nothing to upgrade. | 14:26 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: I can't seem to make it work | 14:26 |
| * JontheEchidna has never used kprocess | 14:26 | |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: I am trying to run a system command from within the python program, and was going to use KProcess... | 14:27 |
| hunger | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdegames/ does not have any 4.1.80 debs either (afaics). | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: take a look at gdebi-kde, it re-launches itself if it's not root | 14:28 |
| hunger | If they have new stuff, maybe they got blocked by the archive admins? | 14:28 |
| * JontheEchidna doesn't know | 14:29 | |
| * hunger asked in ubuntu-devel. | 14:30 | |
| stdin | !new | 14:31 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about new | 14:31 |
| stdin | !newqueue | 14:31 |
| ubottu | The queue of packages awaiting approval to enter the archive and scheduled for build (also known as the NEW queue) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+queue | 14:31 |
| ScottK-laptop | rgreening: Does os.system() not do what you need? | 14:32 |
| stdin | or popen if you need output | 14:33 |
| rgreening | ScottK-laptop, stdin: I think I may need to go that route. I was thinking on KProcess as it seemed the correct way to go, but now it just seems overkill. | 14:42 |
| stdin | python has some nice built-in functionality for it. including the commands module | 14:43 |
| rgreening | stdin: basically, I need to run 'kdesudo commandstring' and read the results back (the output is text and to stdout I believe) | 14:44 |
| stdin | import commands; output = commands.getoutput("kdesudo command") | 14:45 |
| stdin | or use commands.getstatusoutput(...) to get a tuple of (return_value, output) | 14:45 |
| jjesse | ok just updated to the kde packages for intrpied in experimental and i have a read x in the taskbar "Unable to load widget: quickaccess | 14:47 |
| rgreening | omg stdin, that's exactly what I need | 14:49 |
| stdin | I tend to use built-in tools if I can, then start looking to 3rd party tools | 14:50 |
| ScottK-laptop | stdin: Good one. That's the one I was thinking of and couldn't remember. | 14:50 |
| NCommander | hey ScottK | 14:51 |
| ScottK-laptop | Heya NCommander. | 14:53 |
| NCommander | So I built kde4libs on 266MHz/32MB ARM board .. | 14:54 |
| NCommander | ;.; | 14:54 |
| NCommander | ow | 14:54 |
| jjesse | how did that go? | 14:54 |
| NCommander | 8 hours with distcc | 14:54 |
| ScottK-laptop | That's not so bad. | 14:54 |
| NCommander | yeah | 14:54 |
| NCommander | Now lets see if I can get bindings to build | 14:55 |
| ScottK-laptop | Anyone else able to log in to the Ubuntu wiki with Konqueror? | 14:55 |
| NCommander | Konqueror has issues with openID AFAIK ... | 14:55 |
| ScottK-laptop | It worked before. | 14:56 |
| jjesse | can try in just a minute | 14:56 |
| stdin | works here | 14:56 |
| stdin | took a few seconds to do it, but it worked | 14:57 |
| ScottK-laptop | OK. Well I'll fiddle around then and see if I can fix it. | 14:57 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Make you you have the current python-qt4 too. It'll die without that. | 14:59 |
| NCommander | nice :-P | 14:59 |
| NCommander | KDE is just pure compile evil, isn't it | 14:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | There's a pending change in bzr to bump the version depends. | 14:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Not normally. | 14:59 |
| cbr | anyone using the 4.1.80 debs? | 15:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: We got sort of the perfect storm this time of trying to transition from 4.1 to 4.2 alpha late, so not getting it completed before starting on the beta, a new arch to deal with, and the mono stack transition all at the same time. | 15:01 |
| hunger | cbr: I have them installed... can't really call it using yet. | 15:01 |
| NCommander | ScottK point taken | 15:02 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: I've done an entire KDE3 release single handed (3.5.10) and in comparison, KDE4 is pure joy to build. | 15:02 |
| hunger | cbr: They are not complete yet though. Some are still stuck in the archive. | 15:02 |
| NCommander | I've done a Xfce one | 15:02 |
| * NCommander sighs, and just thinks of things on his todo list | 15:02 | |
| * ScottK-laptop is trying to avoid that. | 15:03 | |
| * JontheEchidna merged konversation once | 15:04 | |
| JontheEchidna | kubotu: chat about cmake | 15:04 |
| kubotu | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help chat' | 15:04 |
| nixternal | jpds: +1 630 445 3860 <- my cell number - should I go ahead and reserve us a cab thing? | 15:04 |
| JontheEchidna | kubotu: chat about for cmake | 15:04 |
| kubotu | for cmake that is | 15:04 |
| nixternal | wasabi NCommander | 15:04 |
| NCommander | yay, wasba! | 15:04 |
| NCommander | *washabi | 15:05 |
| cbr | hunger: no blowing up of computer? | 15:08 |
| hunger | cbr: No more KDE for me:-( | 15:10 |
| hunger | cbr: Computer is fine... as long as you can call running gnome fine... | 15:10 |
| * hunger is waiting for *all* the updated debs to get into the archive before trying to switch back to kde. | 15:11 | |
| hunger | Currently I am seeing a unholy communion of kde 4.1.80, kde 4.1.3 and kde 4.1.2 debs installed:-| | 15:11 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Also, to add to the perfect storm, Riddell is not available to deal with archive stuff for us quickly, so that made this one harder too. | 15:12 |
| * hunger waits for somebody to finally push the rest of kde 4.2 beta debs for jaunty through the new queue:-( | 15:13 | |
| NCommander | Wow | 15:13 |
| NCommander | We have a talent to break things | 15:13 |
| Trouble | Thanks very much for 4.2 beta 1 for Intrepid guys! | 15:19 |
| Trouble | Much appreciated | 15:19 |
| jjesse | agreed it works great on my dell mini :) | 15:19 |
| Tm_T | old... (;) | 15:19 |
| Trouble | jjesse, I'm getting one next week to whack Kubuntu on - so great | 15:20 |
| * Tm_T hugs her trunk <3 | 15:20 | |
| Trouble | pffft ;-) | 15:20 |
| * hunger grumbles that he should not have updated to jaunty... I am missing out on all the new stuff now:-| | 15:21 | |
| mhb | ScottK: thank you so much | 16:02 |
| ScottK | mhb: Did that work? | 16:03 |
| mhb | ryanakca: you need to click on a link inside the mail that tells you about the expiration ( it baffles me why it's not easily accessible from LP). Thank ScottK for the information. | 16:04 |
| mhb | ScottK: it did | 16:04 |
| ScottK | mhb: Great. | 16:04 |
| ScottK | mhb: I know you got quite a bit frustrated/burnt out on Kubuntu earlier in the year. I have valued your contribution and hope you'll be back .... | 16:05 |
| mhb | great indeed, thanks again! | 16:05 |
| mhb | ScottK: I might do something again... but I guess I'll think about something that would be fun for me, in order to avoid frustration. | 16:06 |
| ScottK | mhb: Great. That sounds like a good plan. | 16:07 |
| nixternal | mhb: when you figure out that something, that helps to avoid frustration, please teach me :) | 16:07 |
| ScottK-laptop | I guess 'making fun of nixternal' wouldn't work so well for you? | 16:08 |
| jjesse | that's what keeps me involved in kubuntu | 16:08 |
| ScottK-laptop | Making fun of nixternal? | 16:08 |
| jjesse | yup | 16:09 |
| nixternal | same here | 16:09 |
| ScottK-laptop | Excellent. | 16:09 |
| nixternal | mhb: you want a good project to work on, but I am sure it would be frustrating....create an open source mail client that works well with Exchange servers | 16:10 |
| jjesse | that would be great | 16:11 |
| hunger | nixternal: I though akonadi did already work with exchange? Dunno how well... but that would basically enable all future kde clients. | 16:11 |
| mhb | nixternal: well, I can only speak for my own experience, but it seems avoiding bad decisions does me a world of good | 16:11 |
| mhb | :o) | 16:11 |
| nixternal | haha, so true | 16:12 |
| nixternal | hunger: ya, it is supposed to get better | 16:12 |
| nixternal | actually, Evolution has worked well with the OWA garbage, but not true Exchange/MAPI support | 16:12 |
| ScottK | With openchange in the archive, it ought to actually be reasonably doable. | 16:15 |
| * ScottK is updating rsibreak to the 0.9 final. | 16:17 | |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: did anyone ever get to kdenlive? | 16:18 |
| * hunger would love to see kdevelop in a kde4 version, too. | 16:20 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Not yet. Someone who understands something about ffmpeg needs to update mlt and mlt++ first. | 16:20 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I asked jdong to look into it and he said he would, but he's not in a rush. | 16:20 |
| * JontheEchidna works on ktorrent then | 16:21 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: If you're feeling adventurous, let me know if you need sponsoring. | 16:21 |
| * JontheEchidna remembers he needs to test a patch from Qt-copy that should be included in our packages | 16:30 | |
| DreadKnight | apachelogger, heya | 16:31 |
| DreadKnight | um, i have a problem when trying to upgrade to kde 4.2 | 16:32 |
| DreadKnight | it seems kde-icons-oxygen package is not 4.2 yet.. | 16:32 |
| JontheEchidna | DreadKnight: Intrepid or Jaunty? | 16:34 |
| DreadKnight | intrepid | 16:34 |
| JontheEchidna | it's at 4.2 here | 16:35 |
| DreadKnight | hmm seems to be there | 16:35 |
| DreadKnight | bah | 16:50 |
| DreadKnight | need to fricking remove a package and it keeps bragging about dependencies | 16:50 |
| DreadKnight | koffice-data-kde4 causes problems for me | 16:50 |
| DreadKnight | has some icons the oxygen package can't overwrite | 16:51 |
| cbr | dpkg --force-all -i oxygen.deb | 16:53 |
| DreadKnight | dpkg --force-all -i kde-icons-oxygen.deb but doesn't cuts it even without .deb | 16:55 |
| cbr | you are doing it in /var/cache/blah right? | 16:58 |
| * hunger is still waiting for somebody to push the jaunty kde 4.2 updates through the new queue. | 16:58 | |
| DreadKnight | mrr, brb,,, | 16:59 |
| NCommander | ScottK, any ideas on what voodoo I need to do to get kde4bindings to build at all? | 17:02 |
| ScottK | NCommander: What arch? | 17:07 |
| NCommander | amd64 | 17:07 |
| ScottK | 4.1.80 built amd64. | 17:07 |
| NCommander | Not in a recent chroot it seems | 17:07 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Built on a buildd 3 days ago. | 17:08 |
| NCommander | I'm aware, but I keep getting build failures | 17:09 |
| NCommander | I'm doing pbuilder update/pbuilder build | 17:09 |
| NCommander | But I think something changed to break something | 17:09 |
| ScottK | NCommander: What error? | 17:09 |
| NCommander | smoke FTBFS on a syntax error | 17:09 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Is it something nepomuk related? | 17:10 |
| NCommander | maybe | 17:10 |
| NCommander | I didn't save the log, retrying in a pbuilder | 17:10 |
| hunger | StevenK said he will do archive stuff soonish. | 17:10 |
| * hunger hops. | 17:10 | |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: What was your CDBS flag for making nepomuk not annoy us in bindings? | 17:10 |
| * ScottK waits for the CoC warning now (kubuntu-devel). | 17:37 | |
| vorian | hmm | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: huh? | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | kdeadmin pushed to launchpad | 17:43 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I thought some might feel my response to the guy asking about Jaunty packages stuck in bin New was a bit harsh. | 17:44 |
| ScottK | I didn't, or I wouldn't have sent it. | 17:44 |
| * apachelogger doesn't either | 17:47 | |
| apachelogger | then again I don't notice harshness mostly ;-) | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | kdeartwork pushed to launchpad | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | kdebase pushed to launchpad | 17:49 |
| * ScottK is glad he got rsibreak done before apachelogger started pushing ... | 17:52 | |
| apachelogger | oioi | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | -workspace, -runtime, edu, games and graphics pushed | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | multimedia, pim, plasma-addons, sdk, toys, utils, webdev pushed | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | all done | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | we haz bzr based development :P | 17:56 |
| apachelogger | takes about 2.5 minutes to branch all | 18:00 |
| NCommander | hey apachelogger | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: the nepomuk question was about csharp? | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | ahoy NCommander | 18:04 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, so I have kdelibs done ... | 18:05 |
| NCommander | (fixed so we can fix bindings on ARM) | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: lp:~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu | 18:06 |
| NCommander | Stop reading my mind | 18:06 |
| apachelogger | sorry | 18:06 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: What was the error on kde4bindings? | 18:06 |
| NCommander | ScottK, my base system is dirty, it builds fine in a chroot | 18:07 |
| * NCommander wonders if everyone was out when we were discussing that there were different typedefs in QT which causes a complex sequence of events that causes kde4bindings to FTBFS on ARM | 18:07 | |
| ScottK-laptop | No. I remember htat. | 18:08 |
| ScottK-laptop | htat/that | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-bzr or bzr-kubuntu or kubzr or batbzr or apacheloggerswrath or kpony? | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: Qt | 18:08 |
| * apachelogger likes kpony | 18:09 | |
| NCommander | apachelogger, committing | 18:09 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, you got commits | 18:12 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, this should work on ARM, but I had some trouble test building it (cmake and distcc do not get along ATM) | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | self.note("Don't delete more than one message in KMail") | 18:13 |
| NCommander | I know the code compiles | 18:13 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: 90% sure it's -DNEPOMUK_SHARP_ENABLED=OFF | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: distcc is an abomination of good applications | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: icecream > distcc | 18:13 |
| NCommander | icecream? | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | ~google icecream opensuse | 18:14 |
| kubotu | Results for icecream opensuse: 1. Icecream - openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream | 2. Libzypp/Devel/icecream - openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Devel/icecream | 3. Icecream - openSUSE - SWiK: http://swik.net/open-source/del.icio.us+tag%2Fopen-source/Icecream+-+openSUSE/ckkmh | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: are you sure that worked? | 18:14 |
| JontheEchidna | no, I am not. cmake was very uninformative | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | I doubt it | 18:14 |
| apachelogger | IF(Nepomuk_FOUND) | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | SET(NEPOMUK_SHARP_ENABLED "yes") | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | ADD_SUBDIRECTORY(nepomuk) | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | ENDIF(Nepomuk_FOUND) | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | that is what I call bad dynamics :P | 18:15 |
| ScottK-laptop | I'm about 99% sure we need to do whatever Cmake gymnastics are needs to make Nepomuk not found. | 18:15 |
| NCommander | Oooh, very interesting | 18:16 |
| NCommander | Thanks | 18:16 |
| ScottK-laptop | apachelogger: If you can toss that bit into bzr, once NCommander gets done with armel, I can layer the mono transition changes on top and sponsor it. | 18:16 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Or if you want to ... | 18:16 |
| NCommander | I can commit the changes, but no idea what changes need to be done | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | I am pretty sure that code portion needs to be patched | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | or maybe -DNepomuk_FOUND=FALSE works | 18:17 |
| ScottK-laptop | I'll fiddle with it when I have more mental bandwidth available if no one else does | 18:17 |
| * apachelogger will take a look at it once he found a name for the bzr wrapper tool | 18:18 | |
| apachelogger | ...if I find one... | 18:18 |
| * NCommander hates smoke :-P | 18:21 | |
| * NCommander also notes the time of the great reinstallation is upon us | 18:21 | |
| NCommander | or me | 18:21 |
| jjesse | good luck w/ your reinstallation NCommander | 18:25 |
| NCommander | yeah | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | so | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | can someone please suggest a sensible name for the bzr wrapper? :P | 18:26 |
| NCommander | batglue | 18:26 |
| NCommander | or barbeer | 18:26 |
| NCommander | or batbuntu | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | barbeer ha! | 18:27 |
| vvinet | zarba! | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | zarba? | 18:27 |
| vvinet | not very original sorry :( | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | sounds like a microsoft product ;-) | 18:27 |
| vvinet | bzr 98 ? | 18:28 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=98&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 98 | A patch from Matthias for kwm, kvt, kpanel and kpat | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | uh | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | matthias! | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | the hero of Amarok 1.4 :D | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | stdin: nice commit message! it shouldn't be triggered by bzr though ;-) | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | stdin++ | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: did upstream agree on your patch? + is it fixed upstream yet? | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: btw, you forgot a number for the patch ;-) | 18:30 |
| NCommander | It's kubuntu_* | 18:31 |
| NCommander | As for upstream | 18:31 |
| NCommander | It's kinda DIA | 18:31 |
| NCommander | But the best I got is we should normalize the module to use Qt types | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: kubuntu_NN_* ... ok, please get upstream to get their solution in for beta2 | 18:32 |
| * apachelogger hates such big patches | 18:32 | |
| apachelogger | they don't want to apply to often ;-) | 18:32 |
| NCommander | I'll submit it for inclusion upstream as soon as I'm sure that fix is going to work 100% on ARM | 18:32 |
| NCommander | (that is to say all KDE modules, or at least a reasonable percentage compile and work) | 18:32 |
| vorian | but can you get it to install on my iphone? | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | lolz | 18:33 |
| jjesse | how bout on my windows moblie phone | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | ah! | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 18:33 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "Ruby" by Kaiser Chiefs [Yours Truly, Angry Mob, 2008] | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | ...batpull ftw | 18:33 |
| vorian | batpull? | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | a more sensible implementation of pull-lp-source | 18:34 |
| vorian | hrm | 18:34 |
| vorian | i do not love bzr | 18:35 |
| apachelogger | who does | 18:35 |
| vorian | those bzr folks | 18:35 |
| vorian | and jcastro | 18:35 |
| vorian | :P | 18:35 |
| * apachelogger shudders | 18:35 | |
| * apachelogger only luvs tha ruby ruby ruby | 18:36 | |
| apachelogger | NCommander: testbuilding | 18:36 |
| vorian | apachelogger: i've been lerning ruby! | 18:36 |
| vorian | learning even! | 18:36 |
| apachelogger | vorian: so you can take over maintainership of the batmagic? ;-) | 18:37 |
| vorian | soon | 18:37 |
| vorian | very soon | 18:37 |
| vorian | apachelogger: the only problem would be ktown access | 18:37 |
| vorian | but i can bug a fews of you about that if needed | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | I guess we could get easily | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | 13 files changed, 959 insertions(+), 260 deletions(-) | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | ^ diffstat between current batscripts and my private branch ;-) | 18:38 |
| vorian | wowza | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | TBH, a lot of the insertations are documentation | 18:39 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Shouldn't it just be a native package anyway? | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: what should? | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | 13 files changed, 959 insertions(+), 260 deletions(-) | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | wrong past .... 41.2% is comment | 18:40 |
| NCommander | ?? | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: stats about batscripts | 18:44 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/80452/ | 18:44 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: batmagic (which I assume is your name for the bat scripts package) | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: batmagic == batscripts | 18:45 |
| apachelogger | but yes, batscripts should be native | 18:45 |
| ScottK | So I guess I don't know why ktown access is relevant. | 18:46 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: for testing maybe, I don't know either though ;-) | 18:47 |
| apachelogger | meh | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | out of space -.- | 19:15 |
| stdin | apachelogger: it's because it works with bzr and svn repos | 19:29 |
| apachelogger | stdin: well, that was a wrong positive then | 19:31 |
| rgreening | stdin, ScottK: any suggestions on how I can get the $? of the command that kdesudo runs, rather than $? from the execution of kdesudo? | 19:32 |
| Daskreech2 | +1 to it? | 19:32 |
| stdin | apachelogger: it looks for bzr or svn in regex | 19:32 |
| apachelogger | stdin: so why did it spit out kde svn? | 19:33 |
| stdin | apachelogger: because that's basically just a keyword that tells the bot to trigger the function | 19:33 |
| stdin | rgreening: in a shell or what? | 19:33 |
| apachelogger | stdin: either way the behaviour is wrong and needs to be fixed, if someone wants bzr they shall get bzr and not svn ;-) | 19:34 |
| rgreening | stdin: I'm using the commands.getstatusoutput(...) where the command is kdesudo 'blah' | 19:34 |
| stdin | apachelogger: supybot looks at the message and sees if it has any classes loaded that matches the regex | 19:34 |
| rgreening | stdin: The $? returns the exit status of kdesudo, but I need exit status of the command it ran | 19:35 |
| rgreening | kdesudo always returns succes on the command I pass it | 19:35 |
| stdin | you're stuck then | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | well | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: kdesudo 'foobar; echo $?' | 19:36 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: not a bad idea | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | catch stdout in a var and parse the last line | 19:36 |
| * rgreening tries | 19:36 | |
| stdin | "kdesudo 'false ; echo $?'" outputs nothing | 19:37 |
| stdin | it doesn't run in a shell it seems | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | && | 19:37 |
| apachelogger | or | 19:38 |
| stdin | $ kdesudo 'xterm ; echo $?' | 19:38 |
| stdin | xterm: bad command line option ";" | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | now | 19:38 |
| stdin | ... | 19:38 |
| apachelogger | no | 19:38 |
| Daskreech2 | stdin: What's the hanging ' for ? | 19:39 |
| Daskreech2 | oh no it's not hanging | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: well, you are boned | 19:39 |
| apachelogger | policykit shall prevail! | 19:40 |
| rgreening | dam | 19:40 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: you could access ufw via a wrapper script | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | make the wrapper script output echo $? | 19:41 |
| rgreening | I suppose I could write a wrapper to call.. hah read my mind | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 19:41 |
| rgreening | I was typing at same time | 19:41 |
| rgreening | lol | 19:41 |
| rgreening | Yeah, I think that's the way to go. | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | solution++ | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | so | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | what do you guys think about gypsy for the name of my bzr wrapper script? | 19:42 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: I just want to get my program to enable/disable and add/remove a simple rule by the time I get to uds. I'm so close | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | apparently vorian associates bazaar with gypsy ;-) | 19:43 |
| rgreening | I associate it with Super Dave | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | that is even more weird | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: uds starts mondayish? | 19:43 |
| rgreening | yeah | 19:43 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: I have the basic gui 80% complete. | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: if jr didn't came online until then you will have to drag him to an IRC client for me | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | that is weird grammar | 19:44 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: lol | 19:44 |
| * apachelogger won't upload kde-l10n without knowing if debian/cdbs should be replaced | 19:44 | |
| apachelogger | which is most likely the case anyway | 19:44 |
| NCommander | Why do we need to change the rules? | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: hm? | 19:47 |
| NCommander | why does kde-l10n need rules changed | 19:47 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: it might because of the translations stuff | 19:48 |
| NCommander | can I help in anyway? | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | remember... l10ning is fully automated ;-) | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | thanks anyway | 19:49 |
| NCommander | damn you and your increasing upload count | 19:49 |
| Daskreech2 | apachelogger: Are you planning on Kamping with us? | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: ha! lolz! How do you think jr always ends up at the top of the list? | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | faking uploads all over the place | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | Daskreech2: kamping? | 19:51 |
| Daskreech2 | Camp KDE | 19:51 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, so how does Merge-O-Matic get uploads :-) | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | Daskreech2: that is incredibly far away from austria, isn't it? ;-) | 19:52 |
| ScottK | NCommander: MoM code is on LP if you really want the details. | 19:52 |
| NCommander | It doesn't upload | 19:52 |
| Daskreech2 | apachelogger: But it's nice and warm! With coconuts! | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | Daskreech2: true, but the farther away the more expensive it gets | 19:55 |
| === Daskreech2 is now known as DaskReech | ||
| DaskReech | apachelogger: Stay for two weeks then :-D | 19:55 |
| DaskReech | Ok cool :) | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | DaskReech: I am starting a new employment on 2nd of februrary :( | 19:57 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I would actually consider that | 19:57 |
| * apachelogger could use some vacation :) | 19:57 | |
| DaskReech | Good luck with that! | 20:02 |
| NCommander | apachelogger, when do you plan to do the next upload of kde4libs? | 20:02 |
| * apachelogger pokes NCommander in the eye | 20:02 | |
| apachelogger | right now | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | what a PITA | 20:02 |
| NCommander | I love you now :-) | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | DaskReech: thanks | 20:02 |
| vorian | yikes, ark is slow | 20:02 |
| NCommander | I'll update bindings as fast as I can | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: _now_ ????!?!?!!? that is ourages | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | +t somewher | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | +e somewhere | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | must be typo time | 20:03 |
| NCommander | +bad joke somewhere | 20:03 |
| * apachelogger lost the konsole tab he wanted to upload from | 20:03 | |
| DaskReech | Anyone knows a doc on how to convert a KDE3 Konqueror service menu to be suitable for KDE4? | 20:12 |
| DaskReech | I know it's nearly trivial Just need to find a doc | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | <3 debcommit -R -r | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | DaskReech: none there | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | at least not to my knowledge | 20:13 |
| DaskReech | apachelogger: I saw a webpage on how to do it last night too :( it's on KDE-apps comments somewhere | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | DaskReech: just grab one from KDE 3 and one from KDE 4 and it should become quite obvious what needs to change :) | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | DaskReech: what do you associated with a bazaar? | 20:16 |
| DaskReech | ... | 20:17 |
| DaskReech | cathedrals? | 20:17 |
| * DaskReech is a sad lil geek | 20:17 | |
| apachelogger | oh yes you are :D | 20:17 |
| * apachelogger hands DaskReech a cookie | 20:17 | |
| DaskReech | Nom nom nom nom nom | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot188.png there is nothing like a good old tag | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: ^ | 20:20 |
| NCommander | Thanks | 20:21 |
| * NCommander hugs apachelogger | 20:21 | |
| NCommander | However, I still want to rearrange your bzr repo to be answer | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | no need | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | gypsy will take care of bzr's stupidity | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | muahahah | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | vorian: I think that name sticks | 20:22 |
| vorian | yay! | 20:22 |
| vorian | gypsy ftw | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | vorian: that could be offending people who work on a bazaar though :P | 20:22 |
| NCommander | How about overlord :-P | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | too long | 20:22 |
| vorian | na, apachelogger, we'll just let them tell us our fourtune. | 20:23 |
| vorian | that will make em happy | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | anyway, next question is ... how to distribute gypsy? | 20:23 |
| DaskReech | Would it be offending to Gypsy's who are not tied to bazaars? | 20:23 |
| NCommander | Packaging it | 20:23 |
| vorian | apachelogger: bzr perhaps? | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | DaskReech: possibly | 20:23 |
| vorian | or ubuntu-dev-tools | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | more like kubuntu-dev-tools | 20:23 |
| vorian | or we could make a kubuntu-dev-tools wrt all the batscripts too | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | ubuntu-dev-tools is flooded with python :P | 20:23 |
| vorian | ^5 apachelogger | 20:23 |
| apachelogger | aye | 20:23 |
| NCommander | yay, python | 20:24 |
| apachelogger | gypsy gets a bzr branch | 20:24 |
| * ScottK-laptop prefers Python too, but not enought to volunteer to d the actual work. | 20:24 | |
| apachelogger | will merge with batscripts, once they are ready for publishing, and become kubuntu-dev-tools | 20:24 |
| NCommander | why can't we just make the repo sane ... | 20:24 |
| apachelogger | because bzr is the suck | 20:25 |
| apachelogger | you can't create subtrees unless you are using the development implementation | 20:25 |
| apachelogger | and I am sure as heaven not going to stuff our precious packaging in a developmentish repo | 20:25 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: thanks :) | 22:02 |
| DaskReech | You scared him | 22:02 |
| ryanakca | hehe | 22:03 |
| ryanakca | mhb: Any idea when I'm supposed to get this expiration email? | 22:03 |
| jpds | nixternal: the Supershuttle thing? OK. I thought you meant a normal cab. | 22:03 |
| nixternal | jpds: doesn't matter...we can normal cab it as well I guess | 22:03 |
| * ryanakca waves to jpds | 22:03 | |
| * jpds waves at ryanakca | 22:04 | |
| jpds | nixternal: Either which gets us to the hotel is fine by me. | 22:04 |
| JontheEchidna | kubotu: chat about the hotel | 22:09 |
| kubotu | the hotel which might go one a day or two? | 22:09 |
| * ScottK-laptop loves wifi at the gym where $YOUNGEST_CHILD has ballet class. | 22:10 | |
| vorian | <3 kwrite | 22:14 |
| astromme | Hey, I'm having a problem with fglrx (Radeon 3450 HD) in jaunty. I keep getting a fallback to the failsafe. Here is my Xorg.0.log: http://rafb.net/p/Vv5UVK96.html . Any ideas or suggestions? | 23:17 |
| astromme | my dmesg is tsdgeos (n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | 23:17 |
| astromme | dmesg -> http://rafb.net/p/M8Qv3F38.html . And I'll try -ati | 23:17 |
| astromme | whoops, that was some other junk.... anyways, radeonhd didn't give me a 1680x1050 screen and I haven't tried ati yet. But I would like 3d acceleration | 23:18 |
| cbr | so does te 4.1.80 stuff mostly work? | 23:32 |
| cbr | i'm eager to try it out | 23:32 |
| DaskReech | cbr: Try it then | 23:34 |
| cbr | ah crap, i am going to.. | 23:39 |
| cbr | i'm just a simple man :( | 23:39 |
| DaskReech | Sweet :) Target audience :) | 23:39 |
| cbr | akonadi brings in loads of other bs :o | 23:40 |
| cbr | mysql server etc | 23:40 |
| cbr | why oh why | 23:40 |
| cbr | what is akonadi anyway? | 23:40 |
| astromme | I wouldn't..... unless you're using neon | 23:40 |
| cbr | no, jaunty | 23:40 |
| astromme | intrepid-backpots is incomplete | 23:40 |
| astromme | jaunty is... fine | 23:40 |
| astromme | I'm on it now, but my fglrx is busted | 23:41 |
| cbr | my intel is busted too | 23:41 |
| cbr | well, just slow mostly | 23:41 |
| astromme | mine won't even start | 23:42 |
| astromme | I'm using -ati now... so sad without composite =/ | 23:42 |
| cbr | my 3d performance is 220 FPS in glxgears | 23:42 |
| cbr | proud moments.. | 23:42 |
| DaskReech | heehee | 23:44 |
| astromme | lol | 23:44 |
| DaskReech | -iacknowldegethisisnotabenchmark ftw | 23:44 |
| DaskReech | cbr: Beta 1 mostly works | 23:45 |
| astromme | although! although! xrender is working decently so I do have some things like transparancy and shadows | 23:45 |
| DaskReech | I've found like 4 bugs | 23:45 |
| DaskReech | 3 of which are already fixed in trunk | 23:45 |
| cbr | o nice.. packaging errors | 23:45 |
| cbr | a file in kalzium is already provided by kalgebra | 23:45 |
| supert0nes | anyone get this error kdebindings-kde4: Depends: libkimono4.1-cil but it is not installable when trying to install kdebindings-kde4? | 23:45 |
| astromme | yeah, me too | 23:46 |
| supert0nes | s/install/upgrade | 23:46 |
| supert0nes | its not make or break but it is interesting | 23:46 |
| astromme | I'm also frustrated that alt-f2 brings me to tty2 | 23:47 |
| astromme | rather than ctrl-alt-f2 | 23:47 |
| astromme | so I keep going to the console | 23:47 |
| supert0nes | hmm | 23:48 |
| astromme | oh noes.... no I have a wsod | 23:51 |
| astromme | thank god for ssh or I would be dead in the water | 23:53 |
| astromme | actually, what I really want is kernel modsetting..... | 23:55 |
| astromme | that's it.... I can't deal with this. Time to move to the nvidia card (which is even worse in some cases >_>.... and louder for sure.... GAH) | 23:58 |
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