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contrastxp-killer: http://www.catswhocode.com/blog/os/19-ffmpeg-commands-for-all-needs-82400:00
dr_willis'get over the  everything has to have an icon/gui addiction' :)00:00
contrastActionParsnip: ?00:00
dr_willisTold that to a guy at work once.. he just stared at me.. and asked.. 'how can a program not have a gui?'00:00
contrastah, nm00:00
ActionParsnipcontrast: xmodmap00:00
contrastdr_willis: lol00:01
xp-killercontrast: that a program to do iso files etc00:01
xp-killernot for videos00:01
contrastxp-killer: acetoneiso converts, i don't remember if it'll convert to ps3-compatible files though.00:01
xp-killercontrast: ffmpeg the video can be anywhere?00:02
contrastAcetoneISO's an awesome little program - a bit of a swiss army knife for video and disc image conversions.00:02
contrastxp-killer: Umm... What?00:02
ActionParsnipxp-killer: depends what you are converting from - to00:03
xp-killercontrast: the website u give me00:03
contrastyes...?00:03
xp-killercontrast: so if the video on the descktop wat comand do i put?00:03
contrastthis is for the psp - i imagine the ps3 command wouldn't be very different, although you'll probably want to use a different resolution, i don't know what the ps3 will accept: ffmpeg -i source_video.avi -b 300 -s 320x240 -vcodec xvid -ab 32 -ar 24000 -acodec aac final_video.mp400:05
contrastxp-killer: why don't you just put linux on your ps3 and not worry about having to convert anything? :D00:06
contrastI was messing with the Sound module in System Settings (trying to get the HDMI output working), and now my sound seems to be borked - the only device listed is PulseAudio, and I can't get sound from anything but MPlayer. Can someone please help me out? (I already tried moving ~/.kde, ~/.pulse and ~/.pulse-cookie, no dice. :-\ )00:06
xp-killerit will erase all my stuff so i cant*00:07
dr_willisI imagine the ffmpeg, and mencoder faq/docs have examples for converting videos to ps3 format.00:07
dr_willisThey have examples for most other systems00:07
xp-killerdr_willis: i do ffmpeg -i '/home/xp-killer/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo.avi'00:07
xp-killerit give  me an error00:07
contrastxp-killer: to dr_willis you listen. ;-)00:07
ActionParsnipxp-killer: you need to convert whatever format you have to mp400:07
xp-killercontrast: ^00:07
dr_willisxp-killer,  and what was that command supopose to DO exactly?00:07
ActionParsnipxp-killer: so if you find an mp4 conversion guide you should be ok00:07
xp-killeri dont want it in mp400:08
dr_willisfrom what i see.. you just some how expect it to magically know what format to convert to? :P00:08
xp-killerdr_willis: lol00:08
xp-killerthen wat im i sopose to do?00:08
contrastxp-killer: you have to tell it what to convert it to - the command you just gave us only tells it the file you want it to convert.00:08
dr_willis#1 - i would say - find/read the ffmpeg docs/faq.00:08
contrastxp-killer: re-read the website i posted, and use google. ;-)00:08
dr_willisIts a COmplex tool that can do what you need..  the FAQ most likely has example lines..00:09
dr_willis#2 - i would test with smaller video files first00:09
contrastGoogle = god of knowledge00:09
xp-killerdr_willis:  contrast explain me as if it was a child u telling it to cause im a noob00:09
dr_williscrawl, walk, run00:09
dr_willislearn the basics.. read more.. apply, experiment00:09
dr_willishttp://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/faq.html00:09
contrastxp-killer: but you're not a child, you're a big boy. you've been through school. i assume you know how to find things out on the internet.00:10
dr_willisI dont know what video format the ps3 needs.. the FAQ does mention the PSP and iPod.00:10
xp-killeraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i give up im going on xp to use my converter00:10
contrastnot to be a dick, but i'd rather teach you to fish than just hand the fish to you. :)00:10
dr_willisxp-killer,  go ahead.. we dont care either way really00:11
dr_willisIm not going to go research the problem for you.00:11
dr_willisxp-killer,  a google search for 'ps3 ffmpeg convert' comes up with a wiki page00:12
xp-killeryea but to use it on linux is another story00:12
dr_willisffmpeg -y -i InputVideoFile.avi -title "Title Of Your Choosing Here" -bitexact00:12
dr_willis-vcodec xvid -s 640x480 -r 29.97 -b 1500 -aspect 4:3 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ar 24000 -ab 64 -muxvb 76800:12
dr_willisOutputFileNameOfYourChoosingHere.mp400:12
dr_williswhat story?00:13
dr_willisseems rather straight forward. :00:13
dr_willishttp://ps3wiki.qj.net/index.php/Using_ffmpeg_to_transcode_video_for_the_PS300:13
contrasti've reluctantly come to accept that some people simply will not, or can not, come to terms with using the command line for *anything,* no matter how "simple" the command in question may be to those of us who are terminally inclined.00:14
dr_willisffmpeg -i input_file_name.avi -sameq -s 640x480 output_file_name.mpg00:14
dr_willismay even work.. according to the guides..00:14
dr_willisso it seems the ps3 can play mpg :)00:14
xp-killeraaa my sis take over the computer with xp on it00:15
xp-killerwell back to linux00:15
contrastCan anyone tell me why PulseAudio is the only output device listed under System Settings -> Sound, and/or why it's "not working" (according to a pop-up message I get at every log-in)?00:15
unixafter editing fstab   i cant access ntfs volumes00:16
unixi can see the volume ntfs on dolphin...but i cant open it00:16
unixit says only root has the permission00:16
dr_willispulse audio is used by gnome/ubuntu - not Kubuntu/kde i thought00:16
ActionParsnipunix: you need to add options to allow users access00:16
dr_willisand what was your fstab line you used Unix ?00:16
unixone sec00:16
xp-killerdr_willis: this is what i sopose to type in the console?  ffmpeg -i '/home/xp-killer/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo.avi'ffmpeg -f image2 -i image%d.jpg video.mpg00:16
xp-killerdr_willis: to convert it?00:17
unixdev/sda1       /media/ntfs1    ntfs-3g        defaults         0       100:17
dr_willisthats a szmple command line  - yes xp.. You may need to change things  depending on your exact setup..  as i said.. it may be best to test with a smaller video file00:17
dr_willis<dr_willis> ffmpeg -i input_file_name.avi -sameq -s 640x480 output_file_name.mpg00:17
dr_willis<dr_willis> may even work.. according to the guides..00:17
contrastdr_willis: Ahh... I think I may have installed Pulse when I was trying to get sound on my HDMI output working. So I should be safe just removing any pulse packages I have installed?00:18
dr_williscontrast,  perhaps.. I always set up the players to use alsa00:18
xp-killerdr_willis: why 640x480?00:18
xp-killerdr_willis: i dont have no smaller video00:18
dr_willisxp-killer,  i havent a clue.. I dont own a ps3 and i am repeating what i have READ ON THE GUIDES00:18
contrastlol00:18
xp-killerthe ps3 can read avi files but it dont have the codec to read it00:19
dr_willis an 'avi' file can be any of several dozen if not hundered codecs00:20
dr_willisps3 can proberly handle several different codecs. You need to convert the video files to a codec it canhandle.00:20
dr_willisthus the use of 'mpg' in the command lines.00:20
dr_willisyou could move whatever.mpg to whatever.avi and it would still work most likely00:21
dr_willisbut those tools use the extenson as a clue as to what format you want to convert To.00:21
ActionParsnipunix: try this: /dev/sda1       /media/ntfs1    ntfs-3g       noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 000:21
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xp-killerok00:22
xp-killerdr_willis: but to convert i dont know the comand to use00:22
contrastbrb00:22
dr_willis<dr_willis> ffmpeg -i input_file_name.avi -sameq -s 640x480 output_file_name.mpg00:22
dr_willisMIGHT WORK.. according to the guides.00:23
ActionParsnipdr_willis: looks good to me00:23
dr_willisOr there was a Much longer complex example i pasted earlier00:24
dr_willisffmpeg -y -i InputVideoFile.avi -title "Title Of Your Choosing Here" -bitexact   -vcodec xvid -s 640x480 -r 29.97 -b 1500 -aspect 4:3 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ar 24000 -ab 64 -muxvb 768 OutputFileNameOfYourChoosingHere.mp400:24
ActionParsnipjeez00:28
dr_williswhats scary.. is - i understand MOST of that command line.. :)00:29
ActionParsniphaha, i'd just use the short one00:30
dr_willisof course - we havent even tried to convert it with mencoder. :) this is just ONE tool that can do it...00:30
ActionParsnipfunny, he was "in a hurry" and he's still here 30 mins later00:35
dr_willisit will proerly take an hr+ to convert the video00:36
dr_willisdepending on the machine00:36
ActionParsnipand the filesize00:36
WalzmynI've got a bandnew intall of kubuntu 8.10 - howcome when i log in, my screen resolution is higher than I have set it. But when I open sys settings >>Display it instantly jumps to my settings?00:36
dr_willisTinkerBell Movie - about 700mb00:37
dr_willisActionParsnip,  whats really amuzeing - is that  movie is allready in xvid codec.. so MOST likely will alrleady play on the ps300:38
dr_willisnote the  -vcodec xvid     line in the example :)00:38
ActionParsnipdr_willis: suprised it doesnt play most things anyway00:39
dr_willisthe audio is mpga  - so not sure if thats anissue or not.00:39
dr_willisSony so *#&@&!@ up the PSP with their video format demands..00:39
dr_willisi dont even have my PSP any more00:39
ActionParsnipsony shot themselves in the foot releasing ps3 after xmas00:40
ActionParsnipwas hilarious00:40
ActionParsnipbut offtopic00:40
dr_willisI dont keep up with consoles,  I rembver when PS2-Linux was a big 'thing' for a few weeks...00:40
ActionParsnipwii is fun but i only play on my mates when we are drunk00:42
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* leo_-away as the terminator says: I'll be back00:44
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BluesKajxp-killer, K3b can convert00:45
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wesleyi dont get why many people say opensuse is better, the opensuse is totally crap, kubuntu leaves kde untouched00:49
dr_willisI think KDE4 has been out for such a short time.. not a lot of work has been done to it yet.. since its still a work in progress00:52
dr_willisnot a lot of work 'customizing it by specific disrtos' i mean..00:52
dr_willisIm sure suse and others will have theor own silly start menu variants soon. :P00:53
xp-killerBluesKaj: how do i run k3b? i install it00:53
wesleyit sucks really the kickoff in suse, and yast is not that good as apt00:53
ActionParsnipwesley: i think gentoo is better than both. doesnt make it a fact00:53
DaSkreechdr_willis: Don't you mean we will soon have Suse's silly start menu? :-D00:54
wesleyAction00:54
dr_willisIt will all be silly-plasmoids :)00:54
dr_willisand perhaps some of them wont crash!00:54
wesleyActionParsnip i never tried gentoo00:54
BluesKajit should be installed as part of the default kde package , xp-killer00:54
xp-killerBluesKaj: ok i want to convert the video not put it on a cd00:54
ActionParsnipwesley: its a lot of fun ;)00:54
ActionParsnipwesley: building a linux insall from the ground up00:55
wesleyoh cool, if i could do it00:55
ActionParsnipwesley: theres a handbook to follow00:56
wesleyi just going put kubuntu back and wait for kde4.2 packages00:56
ActionParsnip!neon | wesley00:56
ubottuwesley: The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon00:56
wesley!neonoutoffdate'00:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about neonoutoffdate'00:57
wesleyActionParsnip, neon is out off date i finded out that is stuck at kde4.1.7700:57
ActionParsnipwesley: ive heard folks in here installing kde 4.2 with it00:57
wesleyhuh lol i didnt see that yesterday XD00:58
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marcus_kkkkkkkkkk00:58
wesleyi asked 4 5 times why it still was 4.1.77 but no answers, does it mather if i use a 32 bit system if i can use 64 bit ? i have 1.8 ghz celeron and 2 gb memory00:59
ActionParsnipwesley: 4.1 is ok here, on amd64 3000 soc am2 with 1gb ddr2 and onboard nvidia 6250 vga01:00
wesleybut i have only shipit cds would 64 bit be faster then the shipit cds ?01:00
ActionParsnipwesley: not so much faster01:01
afeijolinux does not have fancy games like all those to windows and consoles?01:01
ActionParsnipwesley: depends what you use your system for01:01
wesleydaily use and some testing01:01
dr_willisafeijo,  there exists games for linux..   savage2 just came out recently for linux m and winmdows01:01
dr_willisor theres always the 'wine' route..01:01
afeijocool, checking01:02
dr_willissavage2 has a demo out for linux also..01:02
dr_willissavage 1 is free also. :P01:02
wesleyDo you know whats the reason shipit does not send amd64 cds anymore ?01:02
ActionParsnipafeijo: frets on fire, urban terror, unreal tourneamt, world of warcraft, counterstrike source01:03
ActionParsnipafeijo: all run great01:03
DaSkreechafeijo: We have fun games :)01:03
wesleyand since when is wow linux native01:03
ActionParsnipwesley: not sure, ive always downloaded it01:03
ActionParsnipwesley: runs great via wine01:03
afeijogood to know! I just need to know how to find them lol01:03
wesleygoing login in Windows and download a copy01:04
afeijoI downloaded Spore, but I did not try to install it01:04
ActionParsnipafeijo: you may want to research before making large swooping statements01:04
dr_willisSpore does not work with wine i heard.. but i c ant confirm that..01:04
dr_willisSpore is barely worth pl;aying more then once...01:05
dr_willis:P01:05
DaSkreechafeijo: Doesn't that have DRM like nuts in a case of nuts?01:05
dr_willisSpore has DRM out the wazoo i hear01:06
ActionParsnipafeijo: http://linuxoutlaws.com/spore01:07
afeijoActionParsnip: thanks01:08
ActionParsnipafeijo: again, simple research01:08
* ActionParsnip has black belt google-fu01:08
afeijoI didnt knew that Wine could do adv games, my bad01:09
ActionParsnipafeijo: there are loki installers too for some games01:09
ActionParsnipafeijo: theres also a linux native app for doom3 to run native01:10
dr_willismost id games have native linux clients01:10
afeijoI'm coding a online game with php, but there is not many games channel on freenode01:10
dr_willisThenotehr companies take the id engine.. and then decide not to do ports.. :()01:10
afeijodoom3 is a nice game :)01:10
ActionParsniphead to #php01:10
faileasActionParsnip: id programmes in C and ASM so its trivial for them to release linux clients. they also open source their engines eventually01:10
afeijoI go to php, it is a tech channel, not games related01:10
afeijodownloading savage2 at 330 kbps :)01:11
ActionParsnipafeijo: they may be able to help with errors etc01:11
afeijoI'm a experienced php devel, no help required... I need beta testers, to find discrepancies01:12
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rimas123hello, are there anyone able to give a quick consultation on freebsd?:) simple thing probably, but ive been wrecking my brain for few fuckin hours01:23
DaSkreech!ohmy | rimas12301:25
ubotturimas123: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.01:25
DaSkreechrimas123: #freebsd01:25
rimas123DaSkreech: for some reason i cannot join that, says 'you need to be identified'01:26
DaSkreech!register | rimas12301:26
ubotturimas123: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode01:26
rimas123well i did register w nickserv01:27
stdinrimas123: check your email01:27
rimas123ok now i feel real stupid01:29
rimas123:)01:29
rimas123thanks:)01:29
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ibuffywhat's the quickest way to paste just the conversation from a kopete log, no timestamps and such? (i'm thinking sed, but was hoping someone has a quick pastebin script already developed)01:30
ibuffyalso, how to make the kde4 notifications of messages go away01:33
ibuffythey clutter the entire view if there's more than 4 of them01:33
ibuffyrimas123: i think if the community makes you feel stupid, they have done their job ;)01:34
DaSkreechibuffy: Hmm?01:36
ibuffyDaSkreech: which line of mine are you hmming about?01:36
Davieykk01:37
DaSkreechibuffy: All except the last one01:37
sunhongfuAnybody use quassel ???01:37
DaSkreechWell second to last01:37
DaSkreechHmm01:37
* DaSkreech avoids qualifications01:37
ibuffy:)01:37
sunhongfuAnybody use quassel ???01:37
DaSkreechsunhongfu: I have. what's up?01:37
DaSkreechsunhongfu: you only need to ask once01:37
sunhongfuDaSkreech, I am using XChat01:37
sunhongfuDaSkreech, I don't know how to configure quassel01:38
mister-teame "no one can make me feel stupid unless I let them" Elinor Roosevelt01:38
DaSkreechsunhongfu: Do you know how Quassel works?01:38
DaSkreechmister-tea: me hungry me eat01:38
sunhongfuDaSkreech, if I want to login to this room ,how do I set the hostname or something ?01:38
sunhongfuDaSkreech, no I dont know how it works01:39
rimas123em is it possiblo to make ufs fs on linux?01:39
mister-teasue me I forgot the /01:39
DaSkreechsunhongfu: It's a distributed client so you ahve a core that attaches to a server and an identity that attaches to rooms. Then you run a client and connect that to the core01:39
DaSkreechsunhongfu: actually ... #quassel :-D01:40
sunhongfuDaSkreech, this is my settings.hostname :irc.freenode.net, port:666701:40
DaSkreech\me sues mister-tea01:40
sunhongfuDaSkreech, is it right ?01:40
mister-tealol01:40
DaSkreechsunhongfu: That's correct01:40
* DaSkreech pitites the fool that doesn't like lipton!!01:41
mister-tea :-D01:41
sunhongfuDaSkreech, but it always said not connected to irc.freenode.net01:41
DaSkreechsunhongfu: Where?01:42
faileasDaSkreech: pfft. ceylon tea is better ;)01:42
* mister-tea english afternoon01:43
DaSkreechDon't let me get Ice T to pop a cap in ya01:43
sunhongfuThere r 2 quassels . One is quassel, another is client only01:43
sunhongfuDaSkreech, so what is the difference ?01:43
DaSkreechsunhongfu: One is the core01:44
DaSkreechsunhongfu: That connects to the internet and does the connection to IRC01:44
DaSkreechThen you use the client to connect to the core01:44
DaSkreechDoes that make sense?01:45
brunitoola01:45
brunitopasenme01:45
brunitoel espaniol01:45
mister-tea!es01:45
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:45
brunitogracias01:45
brunitothank you01:45
mister-teade nada01:45
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sunhongfuDaSkreech, it still doesnt work ... will u say it from the beginning that I just installed quassel and quassel-client ?02:05
DaSkreechsunhongfu:  :-) #quassel will explain the application much better than I02:06
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sunhongfuDaSkreech, nobody talked there ...02:06
DaSkreechsunhongfu: ok Well first you must configure the core02:07
DaSkreechhave you done that?02:07
sunhongfuDaSkreech, yes02:08
DaSkreechsunhongfu: ok part of that would be getting a port and name for the core session (password as well I think)02:09
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PSiL0any progress in getting openoffice 3 to work in 8.10?02:12
DaSkreechsunhongfu: Run a client and point it to that core name/ip port combo and supply the IP address02:12
DaSkreechPSiL0: There is no attempt to do sp02:12
DaSkreechso02:12
DaSkreechIf you would like it simply install it02:12
PSiL0I looked in the lauchpad repositories and the directories for openoffice 3 are empty :(02:12
PSiL0ahhh, apparently OO 3 packages are still not ready for primetime for 8.10 and 9.04 *ubuntu releases02:14
PSiL0damn02:14
DaSkreechPSiL0: As far as I know there is no work being done to get them into 8.1002:15
DaSkreechAs I said if you would like OO.o 3 then install it.02:15
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apple_catHow can I disable my laptops touchpad from working while i'm typing? I've found a few guides on it but it doesn't seem like xorg.conf is very useful these days02:24
apple_catAnd looking through my xorg.conf there isn't actually an input section02:25
PSiL0apple_cat: sudo rmmod psmouse02:25
PSiL0to reactivate: sudo modprobe psmouse02:26
apple_catIs there a way that doesn't need root privilege's?02:27
stdin!info ksynaptics | apple_cat02:31
ubottuPackage ksynaptics does not exist in intrepid02:31
stdinoh, it doesn't exist any more02:31
DaSkreech:-)02:31
stdininstall it from the hardy .deb, works here02:32
mister-tea he he02:32
stdinor the gusty deb actually02:33
stdinhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ksynaptics02:33
MakuseruIs there any program in Kubuntu that can handle .mdf/.mds(Alcohol 120%'s file format)?02:36
DaSkreechI think there was in Hardy02:38
DaSkreechit was on KDE-apps.org you can check there02:38
apple_catThere was a program that converted proprietary formats to iso I think02:40
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wesley_So done install kubuntu02:47
wesley_!neon02:47
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon02:47
chxhi. i tried to join to #kubuntu+1 but no so such channel so I ask here. is Jaunty going to be shipped with KDE 4.2?02:49
wesley_chx yeah02:51
wesley_jaunty going be shipit with kde4.202:52
chxi might upgrade then :) I skipped intrepid.02:52
chxby the way, can aptitude handle jumping distributions?02:52
wesley_how you mean02:54
chxi mean, if in april i edit sources.list to jaunty and do aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade , will that work?02:55
chxi am on hardy.02:55
chxor should i first upgrade to intrepid and then jaunty02:55
wesley_its risky02:56
chxso, intrepid first.02:56
chxfine02:57
chxi can bear running intreprid for five minutes :P02:57
wesley_intreprid is fine :)02:58
stdinchx: jaunty will ship with whatever the latest KDE is02:59
stdinbut don't upgrade now02:59
chxi wont02:59
stdinit *WILL* be broken02:59
chxi asked about April.02:59
chxwhen Jaunty ships.02:59
stdinsome people have already upgraded, they are insane03:00
DaSkreechchx: Why do you want to upgrade ?03:00
chxnow? I do not want to up now.03:00
chx[18:55] <chx> i mean, if in april i edit sources.list to jaunty and do aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade , will that work?03:00
chxthis was the question03:00
stdinyou won't have to do that03:01
chxin April I want to upgrade to have KDE4. Sounds fun.03:01
wesley_you can use kde-nightly03:01
stdinyou already know what to do ;)03:01
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chxstdin: ??03:01
stdin"<chx> or should i first upgrade to intrepid and then jaunty" <- do that03:02
chxoh ok03:02
chxsure.03:02
chxDrupal also does not support jumps. I understand the developers do not want to fight N upgrades, one is quite enough.03:02
wesley_stdin, i accualy did run ubuntu 9.04, but i couldnt install kde403:03
stdinit's not 9.04 yet, it's only 9.04 on release03:03
stdinthink about what happened to dapper03:03
wesley_i know, and you know what i meant03:03
* genii contemplates 9.0603:04
wesley_what did happen to dapper?03:04
geniiwesley_: They missed their schedule03:04
yankohi03:04
yankoi am new to ubuntu03:04
wesley_ow yeah like that, but is that a problem then03:04
DaSkreechstdin: Didn't sabdfl say that won't happene again03:04
yankoi am a pc lol  switching to ubuntu03:05
geniiyanko: How may we assist you?03:05
DaSkreechyanko: welcome!!03:05
yankothanks03:05
yankoubuntu looks so muck cleaner and neat03:05
wesley_systembar is all messed up in intrepid03:05
yankoi just have fe problems with it03:06
yankolol03:06
stdinDaSkreech: it can't be guaranteed, but I wouldn't expect it on a non-LTS release. unless something horrible happens03:06
geniiHmm03:06
mister-teayanko: just ask03:06
ibuffyhow to change all the directory names to lower case without affecting programs?03:06
wesley_8.04 was almost 2 days before release out03:07
ibuffysuch as the defautl paths in dolphin or plamoids03:07
ibuffyfor instance Music should be audio03:07
yankowell i got a logitech g5 mouse  and the back and foword butons dont work?? anyidea?03:07
ibuffyPictures = images03:07
yankocant play mpeg files or avi?03:07
yankoand wahts a good software for photoediting?03:08
yankowebsite developing?03:08
geniiyanko: The mouse issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9801903:08
DaSkreechstdin: Well he seems intent on drumming the message that features are not important shipping on time is03:08
mister-teagimp?03:08
DaSkreechibuffy: Just change them03:09
stdinDaSkreech: it wouldn't be a missing feature or something, more like an X breakage03:09
DaSkreechyanko: install restricted-extras03:09
DaSkreechyanko: gimp03:09
DaSkreechyanko: Quanta03:09
mister-teathers also a gimp plus thingy that makes it work more like photoshop03:10
geniigimpshop03:10
DaSkreechstdin: Don't they have nearly a month to fix that?03:10
DaSkreech!info gimpshop03:10
ubottuPackage gimpshop does not exist in intrepid03:10
mister-teayeah that's it03:10
wesley_kde has also in koffice something like photoshop03:10
geniiHowever gimpshop is 2.2 and current gimp is 2.4 so need to remove 2.4 before install of gimpshop deb or so03:10
DaSkreechBah03:11
* mister-tea no it's cool03:11
* mister-tea like iced tea03:11
yankook well thats lot of info to take at once03:12
yankobut thanks alot actually03:12
mister-tea :-)03:12
stdinDaSkreech: depends on the issue, and what caused it03:12
geniiDaSkreech: http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb03:12
* genii sips03:13
yankodoes anyone uses msn ? so i can add some one if i get stuck03:13
DaSkreechyanko: Get used to that ;-)03:13
yankocause i am not good on irc03:13
DaSkreechyanko: There is here03:13
DaSkreechWhy not? Loads more people to ask :)03:13
yankowell i guess you are rite03:13
yankoi am off to fix mouse first03:14
yankothankx03:14
wesley_google docs works in konq03:15
DaSkreechSeriously??03:15
DaSkreechWIthout lying?03:15
wesley_yes03:15
yankoi am back03:16
wesley_you just need to set docs.google.com in id thing03:16
yankowhere is InputDevice?03:16
mister-teayou know I've used knoppix and thier version of konq seems to do everything03:17
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wesley_you just need to use id firefox or ie603:17
mister-teayup03:17
DaSkreechyanko: What are you looking at?03:18
geniiyanko: Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?03:18
geniiDaSkreech: Likely the xorg.conf edit I pointed him at03:18
wesley_google docs looks really good03:18
DaSkreechgenii: Ah yo uare helping ok03:18
geniiyanko: It is in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf      So to edit this file, need to know if you are on KDE or Gnome to give proper edit command to you03:19
geniiyanko: Becaue previously you were commenting on Ubuntu and not Kubuntu03:19
wesley_why did kubuntu let juk out off default ?03:21
geniiyanko: The fast way on a fresh install to know: blue background - KDE               brown background - Ubuntu03:21
* mister-tea yanko hello hello03:23
tkstkahmm why does my sidebar menu sometimes distort colour and goes fuzzy? and why does my videos blink my desktop03:23
tkstka??03:23
geniimister-tea: I think he may be overwhelmed, he is used to IM and not IRC03:23
mister-teasorry03:24
tkstkaI have the newest ATI drivers03:24
DaSkreechwesley_: juk KDE4 = Not ready and dragon player is simpler ?03:25
tkstkaand KDE403:25
* mister-tea didn't mean to scare him03:25
wesley_juk kde4 is ready? i am using it for some time, and dragonplayer is for video03:26
geniimister-tea: Looks like he had some ungraceful disconnect so I doubt you were the cause :)03:26
mister-teapheww03:27
yankohi ubuntu froozw lol03:32
roganwhats the best desktop video capture program?03:32
yankoso where is that InputDevice folder?03:33
wesley_rogan for kde4?03:34
roganwesley yep03:34
wesley_in kde4 theres on wich you can enable from desktop effects03:34
roganah03:35
roganlet me check03:35
wesley_but i dont know if it works03:35
yanko?? any one can help me?03:35
DaSkreechgenii: THat's you again :)03:36
roganwesley I cant find anything of the sort03:36
geniiyanko: You were disconnected earlier. I will reiterate what I asked before you left03:37
geniiyanko: Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?03:37
yankoubuntu03:37
yankoi got the logitech g5 mouse03:38
yankoback and forword btn are not working03:38
yankoand it says on the site to got to inputdevice section03:38
yankoand i have no idea where that is?03:39
geniiyanko: OK. So   alt-f2   then:   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     to make the edit in that file, as shown in the forum page which contains the fix03:39
geniiyanko: I should tell you that you are currently in the #kubuntu channel, and not the #ubuntu channel, as well03:40
yankoohh03:41
yankodo you guys mind me here?03:41
yankodo i just add the code and save?03:42
geniiyanko: Well, the point is that if we thought you were using Kubuntu, instructions specific to that would have been given, which would have just led to more confusion03:42
yankoohh ok03:42
yankoand how do i get in ubuntu chanal/???03:43
geniiyanko: Yes, save. You will however not see the result until next time you start the X server03:43
yankoohh ok03:43
yankowell thank you03:43
geniiyanko: To enter the #ubuntu channel, click on where it mentioned here, or else manually:   /j #ubuntu03:43
DaSkreechyanko: to restart the X xserver just logout then back in03:44
yankook thankx03:44
DaSkreechyanko: I will warn you that the Ubuntu channel is a lot busier03:44
geniiDaSkreech: No, gdm/kdm needs restart03:44
DaSkreechgenii: Doesn't logging out accomplish that?03:44
geniiDaisuke_Ido: No03:44
yankoand does webdesign and photoedt ?03:44
DaSkreechSorry Daisuke_Ido03:44
geniiDaSkreech: No03:44
Daisuke_Idoi was thinking... what did i do?03:44
DaSkreechyanko: try gimp03:45
Daisuke_Idostill trying to find a good image dupe detector03:45
geniiDaisuke_Ido:  Apologies, I hit Tab too early :)03:45
yankowell i got kubunu too but had some hard time figure it out ubuntu was more easy03:45
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: digikam-kde4 ?03:45
Daisuke_Idofindimagedupes works, but pretty much just to tell me what the dupes are03:45
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: possibly, though i'm not using kde :)03:45
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: Booooo :)03:46
yankook well thankx guys for the help03:46
geniiyanko: You can be in whatever channels apply to your situation at once :)03:46
yankoand opensource rocks03:46
DaSkreechIRC ... being everywehre at once03:46
yankoso you dont midn me here03:46
yankolol;03:46
yankosince i am here any c++ editors for ubuntu?03:47
Daisuke_Idoyanko: anjuta03:47
yankowith gui?03:47
Daisuke_Ido!info anjuta | yanko03:47
DaSkreechyanko: Nope we don't mind unless you start asking some deep Gnome questions.03:47
ubottuanjuta (source: anjuta): A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.24.1-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1348 kB, installed size 3532 kB03:47
DaSkreechKate :-)03:47
Daisuke_Ido:D03:47
DaSkreechawww03:47
stdinkdevelop03:47
stdinkate03:47
stdincodeblocks03:47
Daisuke_Idokdevelop would be my other choice, i forgot where i was -_-03:47
Daisuke_Idoeclipse has c/c++ plugins now03:48
Daisuke_Idoi believe03:48
jussi01!code03:48
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida03:48
stdinI like codeblocks, as it has code completion03:48
Daisuke_Idogwenview is kipi-aware, right?03:48
yankovast choices03:48
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: Umm03:48
DaSkreechI guess03:48
yankono visual studio lol haha03:48
DaSkreechyanko: What do you want from Visual Studio ?03:49
stdinyanko: kdevelop and codeblocks are the closest to visual studio, but without the stupid code from microsoft03:49
DaSkreech...03:49
DaSkreechMS doesnt have a lotta stupid code there03:49
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: i only ask because i see a huge list of plugin categories in gwenview, an apt-cache search for 'gwen' turned up kipi-plugins (image manipulation plugins for kipi-aware programs), and, well...  nothing's showing up after restarting GV03:50
DaSkreechWellt there is no kipi for KDE403:50
stdin*cough* WinMain *could*03:50
DaSkreechso that may have something to do with it03:50
stdins/could/cough/03:50
yankowell i get them all and try them i guess03:51
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: Enhances: digikam, gwenview, kphotoalbum, showimg03:51
yankoand keep the one i like03:51
yankosounds goog03:51
yankogood03:51
Daisuke_Idofrom an apt-cache show on kipi-plugins03:51
Daisuke_Idobut it hasn't enhanced it yet :D03:51
yankoyou guys hate windows?03:51
DaSkreechYeah they are doing a rewrite on it03:51
DaSkreech!bug 103:51
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents03:51
Daisuke_Idohate is a strong term03:51
DaSkreechNo :)03:51
yankodeslike?03:52
DaSkreechIt just bugs us :)03:52
stdinI don't hate windows, I just think it's not a good product03:52
yankowell linux is free and thats kool03:52
stdinbut if you want to pay for low-grade software, it's up to you03:52
Daisuke_Idoi dislike the windows way of doing things - limited choice in how i can set my own system up03:52
geniiI don't dislike Winows either. But it's often inflexible03:53
mister-teaplus the advantage of being locked out of software I paid for03:53
DaSkreechBy design03:53
yankolol03:53
* genii makes everyone sign a non-disclosure agreement before explaining to them they can't do what they want to anyhow03:54
stdinwho would integrate a web browser right into the kernel? why, microsoft of course03:54
mister-teaand the crashes ...priceless03:54
stdinbecause web browsers are such a stable piece of software, it would never crash, right?03:55
DaSkreechmister-tea: I think you mean pricey03:55
mister-teawhichever03:55
DaSkreechstdin: no they are only stable if you have high privvy plgins available. All trusted of course03:55
JontheEchidnaexplorer.exe has quited unexpectedly03:55
JontheEchidnaplease proceed to no longer have a desktop03:56
stdinDaSkreech: and the only page you visit is about:blank03:56
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mister-teaand the bsod03:56
Daisuke_Idothe BSOD has, over the past two iterations of windows, been given an unfair proportion of the blame for windows03:56
* DaSkreech starts a new rant on how much we hate Linux03:57
Daisuke_Idowhen i did use XP, the *only* time i ever got a bluescreen was with a bad piece of hardware03:57
geniiHehe03:57
mister-teayou still have to love it though03:57
* jussi01 starts a new rant on how offtopic this is... :D03:57
geniiDaSkreech: linux is a harsh mistress. But hot in bed03:57
* genii hides from jussi0103:57
stdinDaisuke_Ido: out of curiosity, did one of those bsod's ever give you any idea of what hardware was failing? I could never figure those out, I don't read hex03:58
mister-tealol03:58
DaSkreechhex is sexy03:58
DaSkreechfor DEAD people03:58
Daisuke_Idonot particularly.  though google was my friend.03:59
mister-teathe only thing I like about windows is that it fails and more work for me04:00
Daisuke_Idoi need a smoke, then off to finish this book for a paper i need to write04:00
Daisuke_Idomeh04:00
Daisuke_Idoi hate end of semester...  and i just realized i'm not in -offtopic04:00
* Daisuke_Ido backs away slowly04:00
JontheEchidnahttp://www.kubuntu.org/node/5804:01
JontheEchidnabooyah04:01
geniijussi01: I think it may be a losing battele ....04:01
genii*battle04:01
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Topic04:01
ibuffyshould """PATH=/var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/:$PATH""" be at the end of ~/.bash_profile?04:01
ibuffyw/out quotes of course, just trying to figure out how to add a directory to PATH in ubuntu04:02
ibuffyi need the gem bin in the PATH directory permanently04:03
ibuffynot for one bash session04:03
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JontheEchidna^_^04:03
DaSkreechwhoooooooooooooooooooooooooot04:04
ibuffywhat did stdin do?04:04
stdinI rocked your world!04:05
JontheEchidnaHe added: KDE 4.2 Beta 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 to the channel topic04:05
tkstkahow can I get amarok or some other audio player to see in my startup panel04:05
tkstkaI mean I can see what song or radio channel is playing04:05
Alumindoes Intrepid have KDE 4.x with the compositing stuff?04:05
tkstkawould be cool04:05
JontheEchidnaAlumin: yes04:05
Aluminsweet :)04:06
Aluminnow I _really_ need to dist-upgrade hehe04:06
* JontheEchidna crashes04:06
JontheEchidnad'night04:06
JontheEchidna*g'night, even04:06
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* stdin hates extra spaces in the topic04:07
DaSkreechnigh JontheEchidna04:08
geniistdin: Perfectionist!04:09
stdinit saves those on dial-up from downloading that extra byte04:10
ibuffydo i have to reboot X or something for the PATH to become active?04:11
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geniiibuffy: No, just source it04:12
ibuffybam!04:13
ibuffythanks genii04:13
geniiibuffy: Youre welcome04:13
ibuffygenii: i was one line away from reading that in the bash guide04:14
geniiibuffy: Good to know some people do their homework :)04:14
ibuffyi try, really good info in there04:15
Apple_CatI don't have an input section in my xorg.conf, Can I just add it with the SHMConfig option with no ill effects?04:16
tkstkaI have lcd screen in my keyboard.. is there a player in kubuntu/ubuntu that supports lcd screen?04:18
draikWhat is lirc and do I need it? I fails every boot.04:24
stdininfra-red support04:24
draikI don't have infra-red. Can I remove it or is it tied up into something else?04:25
Apple_Catif rmmod psmouse stops my touchpad, is that the driver I should enter under the input section of my xorg.conf ?04:25
chxaw come on, it's unix, such ties are ... uncommon to say the least.04:26
draikchx: Just making sure it's not a dependency for something else, that's all.04:26
chxI am quite sure it's not04:27
chxbut really, tias.04:27
stdindraik: it's a part of the default install so you'd need to remove some meta-packages, but there's no point04:28
stdinit's not doing anything without any hardware04:28
draikAny way I can stop it from loading?04:29
geniidraik: use update-rc.d to prevent it from running at levels 2 thru 504:29
stdinthere was a GUI for that, it disappeared though04:30
draikWhat is "not really"?04:31
geniidraik: Fast and dirty:    chmod -x the lircd init.d entry04:31
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draik_My desktop just froze. Happens from time to time, which I find awkward.04:32
r0uzichi, i have a problem with upgrade to kde 4.2 beta 104:37
r0uzichi, i have a problem with upgrade to kde 4.2 beta 104:37
r0uzicdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):04:37
r0uzic trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-front.png', which is also in package koffice-data-kde404:37
DaSkreechsudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb04:42
Hydrantanyone else experince flash being really choppy ?04:43
xjjkhallo... would anyone out of the godness of their heart be planning to do a kde 4.2 backport for hardy?04:43
DaSkreechr0uzic: That was for you btw04:46
r0uzicDaSkreech: is solved, i remove koffice-kde404:48
r0uzicx restart04:48
snakefaceim trying to speedup kde4.  i have a p4 processor, onboard intel video and 512 ram.  I already removed dolphin.  thoughts?04:51
fiyawerxremoving dolphin speeds up kde4?04:52
snakefaceyeah04:52
snakefacedolphin is a retarded program anyway04:52
snakefaceits terrible slow04:52
snakefaceand you can just use konqueror instead.  i prefer it anyway.04:53
DaSkreechHi yanko04:53
DaSkreechsnakeface: You have the right drivers for the intel crad?04:54
DaSkreechcard?04:54
yankohey guys me again04:54
yankogot few questions lol04:54
draik_My computer froze up on me again. I turned it of and try to turn it on again. I get nothing, not even the start of POST or access to the BIOS. It just sits there with the fans running. What should I check?04:54
yankowell i ll ask04:55
geniidraik_: Try the power supply on another box04:55
yankoi am useing ubuntu04:55
draik_Power supply is good. It's about 9 months old, if that.04:55
DaSkreechyanko: Well that's obviously before any OS :)04:55
DaSkreechack mixing of messages04:56
yankoso i run firefox and load a page that is flash04:56
snakefaceDaSkreech: I think it knows my drivers automatically.  KDE 3 did.04:56
DaSkreechyanko: Sorry what was the question?04:56
geniidraik_:  new != immune to failure04:56
snakefaceIt seems that is the first thing i should look into though.04:56
yankofalsh plugin for fire fox04:56
DaSkreechsnakeface: Kde4 handles drawing very differently from KDE304:56
DaSkreechIt hurts a lot of Video cards04:56
draik_genii: True. It will eventually start, but when it gets to the part of loading GRUB, it holds for about 5-10 seconds, then I get the loading menu.04:57
* DaSkreech waits for yanko's question04:57
snakefaceDaSkreech: there likely are video card problems.  it renders things corrupted sometimes.04:57
yankoi cant use sites that require flash plugin04:57
yankoin firefox04:57
snakefacehow would i find out what video card I have?  I forget it;s exact specifications04:58
DaSkreech!flash04:58
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:58
yankook i ll try04:58
DaSkreechsnakeface: sudo lshw -C video is what I would do04:58
geniidraik_: Perhaps it's doing: some motherboards have "crashfree bios" or so. so when ungraceful poweroff they think overclocking failed and load last known good or default cmos sets04:58
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draik_yanko: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree04:58
geniidraik_: So onboard video enabled, etc04:59
snakefaceDaSkreech: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller04:59
DaSkreechr0uzic: Whooot04:59
r0uzichi DaSkreech, works :p05:00
draik_genii: Ok. It's just strange that I'm getting these issues out of nowhere. I never had a single freeze with Kubuntu in the 2 1/2 years that I've been using it. 2 1/2 years as of Monday.05:00
snakefaceif it knows what it is why wouldnt it have installed the correct drivers?05:00
DaSkreechsnakeface: Cool. Unfortunately I have no clue what that means driver wise05:00
snakefaceill check the google05:01
geniidraik_: Hardware issue somewhere likely is my best guess without being there in person to diassemble the thing :)05:01
DaSkreechsnakeface: Multiple drivers may exist. It may choose "safe ones" that don't have a lot of performance05:01
genii*disassmble05:01
geniigah05:01
* DaSkreech wants to celebrate/rant on Gnome 3 :(05:01
* genii makes a note to reinstall typing tutor05:02
DaSkreechhave you seen the Ktyper for KDe4?05:02
draik_genii: My only suspicion at this time would probably be the hard drive.05:02
DaSkreechit's sweet05:02
snakefaceDaSkreech: the proprietary linux drivers from intel is what i want right?05:02
geniiI thought all Intel drivers were FOSS05:03
genii(their policy)05:03
snakefaceDaSkreech: what do you think of this?  http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html05:03
DaSkreechsnakeface: There are no closed source drvers for Intel as I understand Even the official ones are open source05:04
szrhawaiihey05:07
_2.05:07
szrhawaiiwow pretty dead tonight huh05:08
szrhawaiikubuntu must of fixed all problems05:08
DaSkreechYay!!05:08
DaSkreechszrhawaii: Read the Topic :)05:08
* genii breaks out the champagne05:09
* DaSkreech goes to OT to mull over Gnome 305:09
DaSkreech!ot05:09
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:09
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szrhawaiithanks buddy05:09
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szrhawaiii just like watching cause it helps me05:09
szrhawaiilearn more05:10
yankoso i could not install the plugin for flash on firefox?05:10
yankoanyone have any idea05:10
szrhawaiihow you downloading it05:10
szrhawaiihow you trying to download it yanko05:11
DaSkreechyanko: How did you try to install it?05:11
yankoi could not find any downloads05:11
yankothere was a cmd05:11
yankofor alt+ f205:11
yankobut nothing hepend05:11
yankois there a link to get a application file and install it ?05:12
genii!info flashplugin-nonfree05:12
ubottuflashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.12.36ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 18 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)05:12
szrhawaiiyou can use terminal or your package manager to get   it05:12
DaSkreechyanko: :-) You are on Ubuntu ?05:12
yankoyea05:13
geniiyanko: Enable in Add/Remove Programs the repository called multiverse05:13
geniiyanko: Then install the package the bot mentions above05:14
DaSkreechyanko: want to do this the fast way and learn little?05:14
snakefaceinstalling these drivers is very confusing to me and there is not proper documentation.05:14
snakefacedo i need DRM?05:14
yankoyea05:14
DaSkreechyanko: Or I can walk you through a longer method to let you see what's happening05:14
yankook05:14
geniiDaSkreech: :)05:14
DaSkreechyanko: open a terminal ant type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:15
DaSkreechsnakeface: Shouldn't05:15
yankoi did05:15
yankonothing hepend05:15
snakefacelol plasma desktop just crashed05:17
szrhawaiidid you try your package manager yanko05:17
snakefacedefinitely a video card issue here.05:17
DaSkreechyanko: can you pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:18
DaSkreech!paste05:18
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:18
DaSkreechyanko: copy the contents of the file to that site and give us the URL that it gives you05:20
draikI finally got the images xfer'd from my XD card to my hdd.05:20
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draikgenii: Thanks for your input. I will look into various things about why things are getting out of control with my desktop.05:21
_2i'm wondering whether or not to update the system one last time before i freeze my dapper installation for ever05:28
DaSkreechyanko: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the contents of the file05:29
yankoi did05:29
yankohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/80175/05:29
loganWHDanyone know of a great screen sharing program for kubuntu?05:30
loganWHDsimilar to teamviewer for windows05:30
loganWHDnon vnc05:31
DaSkreechyanko: umm ok if you ran the command I gave you earlier then you should have flash05:31
DaSkreechyanko: restart Firefox05:31
yankojust turn it of and on?05:32
DaSkreechCtrl+q should kill Firefox05:32
DaSkreechopen it back and you should have flash05:32
yankonop05:33
yankonot working05:33
yankothis is the comand?05:33
yankosudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:33
Zeelot3khey guys, in kde 4.2 beta 1, is there any way to move the items in the task bar? my menu icon is on the right and my tray icons are on the left...05:34
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Zeelot3kalso some launchers are on the left and some are on the right with open windows in the middle05:34
DaSkreechyanko: Yep What version of Ubuntu are you on?05:35
DaSkreechNot that it makes much of a difference05:35
DaSkreechZeelot3k: click the cashew You can drag anything around then05:36
yanko8.1005:36
_2sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree || echo failed!05:36
snakefacethis is a "install-sh" file with these drivers.  with a "-".  what do i do with that?05:37
yankook the last one works05:37
yankobut i get a play buton each time and each time i have to press it?05:37
DaSkreech??05:38
yankowell i put this05:38
yankosudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree || echo failed!05:38
yankoand now the flash page works05:38
yankobut i get a play btn05:38
_2snakeface bash install-sh05:38
yankoand i have to klick it to be able to see the flash content05:38
yanko?05:39
DaSkreechyanko: if they say so then yes :)05:39
_2hmmm normal update for dapper   Need to get 170MB of archives.   seems that my answer is NO!05:40
Zeelot3kDaSkreech: thanks a lot! I dont see how I missed it05:40
yankowell this suck unfortunatlly05:40
yankobut thankx anyway05:40
_2there is a new kernel subversion though, i might get that; it could have some security patches05:41
DaSkreechyanko: try a differnt page and see if you get the same button05:41
yankook05:41
yankohold on05:41
snakeface_2: that doesnt work.05:41
_2snakeface trade bash for dot . install-sh05:41
snakefacedo i need to make something first?05:42
yankosame thing05:42
snakefacei know.05:42
yankohave to press on a play btn05:42
DaSkreechyanko: The same play button?05:42
yankoyea05:43
yankoi tryed few pages05:43
DaSkreechHmm05:43
yankowhy cant they make a simple flash plugin05:43
yankolike for windows?05:43
DaSkreechyanko: That is the simple flashplugin like windows05:44
yankoohh05:44
yankolol05:44
yankoin win you dont have to press play lol05:44
DaSkreechflashplugin-nonfree :)05:44
_2!gnash05:44
ubottuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/05:44
yankohey zoran?05:49
yankoanyway05:49
snakefacewill someone please help me install these drivers?05:49
snakefaceit is killing me05:49
yankothe flash thing does not work05:49
yankoi ll just use win05:49
snakefaceit is an "install-sh" file.  also a "makefile.am" and "makefile.in".  it says there is no makefile.05:50
snakefacewhat do i do?05:51
DaSkreechyanko: What site?05:51
yanko?05:51
yankoany flash site?05:51
DaSkreechsnakeface: you ran the install-sh ?05:51
snakefaceit wont run05:51
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_2snakeface read the README05:52
DaSkreechyanko: the one you are looking at05:52
snakefacethe readme says nothing05:52
snakefaceit is just documentation05:52
yankohttp://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/05:52
yankoyou mena in flash?05:52
_2DaSkreech i suggested to snakeface already both  bash install-sh   and  . install-sh05:52
prestoni am trying 8.10 live cd and am getting some screen blinking going on roughly every 5 to 10 seconds any ideas as to what this is?05:52
DaSkreechyanko: yes05:53
yankohttp://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/gallery.html05:53
_2snakeface any other INTERESTING names ?05:53
snakeface"compile"05:54
yankowhats the #ubuntu05:54
yankook sorry05:54
_2no.  in ALLCAPS05:54
DaSkreechyanko: Just works for me05:55
prestonany ideas guys?05:56
yankook05:56
geniiyanko: Incidentally if you are testing your flash install by trying for instance to see shockwave content on a site, linux flash does not support shockwave since it is activex dependant05:57
DaSkreechpreston: what video card?05:57
yankoi am not it's flash content05:58
bazhang!crosspost05:58
ubottuPlease don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.05:58
yankowho me?05:59
yankoi use ubuntu05:59
bazhangplease dont crosspost.05:59
preston8600gt nvidia05:59
prestondaskreech i think i fixed it in system settings06:00
DaSkreechok06:00
prestondaskreech i killed randr autodetect changes and it stopped06:00
yankook guys thankx i am going back to win06:01
DaSkreechyanko: ok06:01
Zeelot3khey guys, phpmyadmin installed on kubuntu 8.10 but it says I need to set a secret blowfish pass, where do I do that?06:24
DaSkreech!find blowfish06:25
ubottuFound: libcrypt-blowfish-perl, cl-blowfish, libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl06:25
Zeelot3khmm?06:26
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loganWHDanyone upgrade to 4.2 that was having sound and freezing issues before?06:34
loganWHDcurious if it fixed06:34
DaSkreechhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281884<-- zeelot3K06:35
DaSkreechSound still seems to suck06:36
loganWHDah06:37
loganWHDwell then i am staying at 8.0406:37
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AyabaraI get some dependency issues when upgrading to 4.2 beta 1. Ring a bell?06:49
DaSkreechAyabara: What are they?06:50
AyabaraDaSkreech: kdepim: Depends: kjots (>= 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 is installed06:50
DaSkreechwhat happens if you just try apt-get install kjots ?06:50
MasterAkiaim having problems with trying to get my headset to work...06:51
AyabaraDaSkreech: it fails and says trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/actions/edit-delete-page.svgz', which is also in package kmail06:52
MasterAkiai went to terminal and type in alsamixer and it shows that realtek is up and i need it to be logitech i believe06:52
DaSkreechHmm06:52
szrhawaii#windows-vista06:53
DaSkreechsudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kjots_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb06:53
szrhawaii#you06:53
AyabaraDaSkreech: dependency problems prevent configuration of kjots, and a whole list of stuff depending on other stuff06:55
DaSkreechtry a -f install06:55
AyabaraDaSkreech: first thing I tried, but that doesn't work either06:56
DaSkreechWhat's the full error?06:56
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AyabaraDaSkreech: hm. -f install seems to work better now actually. maybe some of the previous steps loosened up something :)06:57
DaSkreech:-)06:57
AyabaraDaSkreech: yep, now it made it all the way. "we are eternally grateful"06:57
DaSkreechYou may kiss the ring06:58
Ayabarahehe06:58
MasterAkiacan i get somehelp with my sound plz?06:59
DaSkreechWhat's the problem?07:00
lolren_hi, can anyone tell me if farcry work with wine?07:01
MasterAkiawell i can seem to get my headset working07:01
MasterAkiasry went to grab a drink lol07:01
MasterAkiabasically i plug my headset in and i set everything to usb port07:02
MasterAkiaand my device is set to logitech07:02
MasterAkiabut in the alsamixer in the term its show realtek07:02
MasterAkiaand i can hear nehting at all, inless its the test buttons on the sound perfernces07:02
DaSkreechlolren_: Check appsdb.winehq.org07:03
lolren_10x07:03
DaSkreechTHat comes through the headset?07:03
MasterAkiajus the sound test do07:03
MasterAkiaand the lil clicks that you can play also07:03
MasterAkianothing from youtube vent teamspeak07:03
MasterAkiabasically everything07:04
DaSkreechtry #alsa ?07:05
MasterAkia??/07:07
MasterAkiawhat is that]07:07
MasterAkiaso what looking at something, but what is #alsa? a channel?07:07
DaSkreechYes An IRC chanell sorry about that misunderstanding07:09
MasterAkiaits ok07:10
MasterAkiathanks07:10
SoftVisionhi is there a file i can edit to change my kde4 color scheme? system settings is crashing after i applied the magnesium scheme and now i want to fix this.07:23
SoftVisionhello? anyone?07:24
DaSkreechI think that's in Plasmarc07:25
SoftVisionNo theres nothing there07:26
SoftVision???07:28
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KillGutahello all07:34
KillGutaanyone know why my screen is flickering? just installed kubuntu07:34
snakefacei still need help with these drivers.  how to i apply the intel drivers?07:39
snakefaceintel video drivers07:39
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DeadTreeHuggerjust upgraded to kde 4.2 beta 1... a few things I noted...07:46
DeadTreeHuggerthere seems to be a conflict if you enabled the PPA repo for amarok 2 beta...07:46
DeadTreeHuggerkopete in KDE 4.2 beta 1 doesn't have any MSN backend (whether the new or old), guess it missed the freeze07:47
aftertafdpkg -i --force-override07:47
DeadTreeHuggernot really big issues for me (I installed kmess to get around the MSN thingie) but just for others' info07:48
DeadTreeHuggerbut man, oh, man, is kde 4.2 every PRETTY :D07:48
travanyone know anything about the icon glitches in Kubuntu 8.10 - Nvidia - Compiz Fusion?07:48
aftertafDeadTreeHugger: isnt it just :)07:49
DeadTreeHuggerthings i can notice immediately:07:50
DeadTreeHugger1) the icon bar rendering artifacts has been solved...07:50
aftertafthe taskbar :) looks finished07:50
aftertafit just looks so nice ....07:50
travkubuntu 8.10 is 4.1 right?07:51
aftertafcoupla bugzz but nothiong impossible to get around07:51
aftertaftrav: yep07:51
aftertaf4.1.3 as of latest07:51
aftertafor 4.2 beta 1 is cutting edge :)07:51
travso 4.2 looks better and solves the icon glitches?07:51
aftertafyep07:51
travsign me up07:52
DeadTreeHugger2) i'm running on intel X3100, n the DRI driver is pretty much borked until Intel fixes GEM issues but KDE 4.2 seems to hv been optimized such that i can actually run 3D fx smoothly at 80-100 fps. COOL!07:52
aftertaf4.1.3 fixed a lot of perf issues already. but 4.2 is so nice :)07:52
DeadTreeHuggertrav: I'm using Intel so I can't vouch for Nvidia07:52
aftertafloool07:52
aftertafim 6800GT07:52
travalso have another problem07:52
aftertafand happpppppppppppppy07:52
travI'm trying to connect to a windows pptp vpn...so I installed pptpd and KVnc...no luck07:54
travso then I tried that workaround where you use the gnome network manager07:54
DeadTreeHugger3) the new borders around task bar items make it much easier to read n count how many apps i hv running07:54
travno luck either07:54
travanyone know how to get it to work>?07:54
aftertaftrav: never tried....... :(07:54
aftertaftrav: what is NOT working? you get any error messages?07:54
travnothing specific07:55
aftertaf:(07:55
travlet me try again and I'll do a pastebin with the log07:55
aftertafk07:55
DeadTreeHuggeri had problems w pptp as well, both w gnome n kde's networkmanager client07:55
DeadTreeHuggerbut i never got around to solving it 'cos i switched to ssh tunneling instead07:55
bobthemilI seem to have done something problematic and now I have no "K menu" in my taskbar (Intrepid)07:56
travahh07:56
bobthemilAnyone know how to get it back?07:56
travbobthemil: add widgets07:56
aftertafbobthemil: xhich version?07:56
aftertafw07:56
bobthemilaftertaf: intrepid07:56
bobthemiltrav: okay. Don't have it exactly as it was before, but I can get it07:57
travhttp://pastebin.com/m3098d6ed07:57
aftertafbobthemil: 4.1.2, .3, 4.2 beta? ....07:57
travthat's what comes up when I try with kvpnc07:58
aftertaftrav: i'd try playing around with windows vpn settings....07:58
aftertafi had issues back in old days with win to win vpn......07:58
travaftertaf: do you know if it works with kvpnc?07:58
aftertafno idea....*07:58
travthe only solution I found on google was to use this gnome network manager but I had no luck07:59
bobthemilaftertaf: you mean KDE version? 4.1 I believe, but I'm not sure08:00
bobthemilwhat's the command to figure it out?08:00
aftertafbobthemil: er... :) look in help menu of konqueror...08:01
aftertafyou'll have 4.1.x08:01
supert0nesanyone else have trouble with kdebindings-kde4? problem with needing libkimono4.1-cil but its not installable08:09
aftertafsupert0nes: you have all the repos available?08:11
supert0nesi would think so08:11
supert0nesthis is for the experimental update08:11
supert0nesthat came out tonight08:11
supert0nes4.2 beta08:11
aftertafhmm. im on the neon packages....08:12
aftertafjust updated and all went ok.08:12
supert0nesi have neon also08:13
supert0neswell i'm gonna go try to log into 4.2 beta08:13
metelliusUnpacking kdebase-workspace-data (from .../kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb) ...08:23
metelliusdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-package.desktop', which is also in package libkorundum4-ruby1.808:23
metelliusbecause of that, I'm telling it to remove the libkorundum4-ruby1.8 at the same time as well, but the stupid thing won't listen08:25
metelliusI was hoping it would actually remove the packages I request _before_ it starts complaining about file clashes08:25
metelliusok, removed the package manually with dpkg, and here comes the next clash,08:28
metelliusdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):        trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts08:28
m__someone should tell me please , whether i can change the defalut installation path of software packages08:28
aftertafmetellius: install the package with sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite [full/path/tp/package).deb08:31
aftertafsudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb08:32
metelliusi actually got it working by doing the same thing again.08:32
metelliusbut, how safe is the force-overwrite?08:32
metelliusdoes it not mess up the packages?08:32
aftertafits safe in the way ive never killed anything yet......08:33
aftertafclashes with apckages maintaining the same files.... so theroy is u dont lose anything ;)08:34
aftertaftheory08:34
metelliusyes, but how does apt react when I try to remove one package?08:34
ugumtuwhy are ops in #ubuntu such asses08:34
metelliusi think you want #rhetorical-questions08:36
ooglebutteugumtu: you can ask in #ubuntu-ops08:36
ugumtui was banned08:36
ugumtuthey raped and molested me like a 5 year old boy08:36
ooglebuttedon't winge here then08:36
ugumtuthey stripped me naked of my manhood and went anal on me08:37
aftertaf!op08:37
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ugumtunot you too08:37
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aftertafugumtu: bye08:37
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tomas00hello!!08:39
aftertafhi08:42
m__My question is unanswered . i want a custom directory to install a package . would it be possible?08:42
aftertafnot to installa package no08:43
aftertaffrom tarball, yes08:43
m__ok , thanks08:43
zeltakhi08:43
aftertafpackages are done also to standardise that type of thing ;)08:43
ooglebutteonly if you recompile08:43
ooglebutte!compile08:43
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)08:43
zeltakinstalled kde 4.2 from the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main08:43
shajaerlang08:43
zeltakand all hell broke loose :08:44
zeltakcan anyone help a bit?08:44
aftertafzeltak: and? what you think?08:44
aftertafwhat went wrong?08:44
zeltakmm first of all during the upgrade i got loads of errors08:44
BlueEaglezeltak: Which is expected when running experimental packages.08:44
zeltakespecially about oxygen iconset and kde tools which cant be unpacked08:44
aftertaflike? already exists in other package?08:44
zeltakyeah not cpmplaininmg08:44
zeltakjust need help :)08:45
aftertaf:)08:45
zeltaki think so08:45
zeltakhold on ill paste the extact test08:45
aftertafi get the impression the neon packages are less explosive :)08:45
aftertafbrb, testing new updates :)08:45
zeltakhttp://pastebin.ca/127569108:47
zeltakthats one probelm08:48
ubuntu_hi all, i want to quest about mp3 player codec on ibex08:48
aftertafzeltak: ok. I have a 'fix' for those problems....08:49
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zeltaksweet thx08:49
aftertafzeltak: open konsole, and type this :08:49
ubuntu_ok...08:49
aftertafsudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb08:49
aftertafzeltak: do for each package in the list, then run sudo apt-get -f install08:50
ooglebutte!mp3 | ubuntu_08:50
ubottuubuntu_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:50
zeltakk sweet08:50
aftertafyou should get further08:50
zeltakim on it.08:50
aftertafk08:50
aftertaftry that, ill be back after a short break from our sponsors :)08:50
zeltak:) thx08:51
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Colonel_Panichey anybody around here?08:59
ubuntu_thanks all brother08:59
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Colonel_PanicI'm having a problem deleting entries in my KDE Menu08:59
Colonel_PanicParticularly, entries related to Wine programs09:00
Colonel_Panicor, programs in the Wine mwnu09:00
Colonel_Panic*menu*09:00
ooglebutteI never use wine but have heard the .desktop files for the menu entries are in .wine - maybe09:01
aftertafback09:02
aftertafso zeltak any better ? ? ?09:03
zeltakyep09:03
aftertaf:))09:03
zeltakseems to work now09:03
zeltakthx alot09:03
zeltaki will play a bit with the new kde (which looks awesome) anmd report back09:03
aftertafexperimental packages can work well, but be a pain to install....09:03
zeltakyup, expected that much09:03
aftertafremember that --force-overwrite parameter....09:04
aftertafserved me well since hoary :)09:04
zeltaki will now09:04
zeltak:)09:04
Colonel_Panicooglebutte: what, you mean the Wine registry files?09:04
zeltakk ill report back later and report any bugs i find09:04
zeltakthx again09:04
aftertaf;)09:04
Colonel_Panicmaybe I need to reboot?09:05
Colonel_Panicwill that change anything?09:05
Colonel_Panicis there a file I can edit to edit the menu directly?09:06
ooglebutteColonel_Panic: like I said I've never used wine - just heard that .wine is where most of it's configs are - if they're not there look in .config09:06
Colonel_Panicdoes anybody know where the KDE menu information is stored?09:06
Colonel_Panicisn't there a config file I can edit?09:06
aftertaf~/.config/menus/applications.menu09:07
aftertafbut i cant see anything useful for u in there09:07
ooglebutteColonel_Panic: have you removed the apps? - tried   sudo update-menus?09:08
aftertaf~/.config/menus/applications-merged/    My wine stuff is there !09:08
Colonel_PanicI've removed the ones I want to delete from the menu, yes09:09
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Colonel_Panicsudo update-menus?09:09
Colonel_Paniclemme try that09:09
aftertafor kbuildsycoca09:09
aftertafomg its snowing again !!!09:10
aftertafok. got to go for today... work !09:10
zeltakenjoy :)09:11
aftertafbutyeah !09:11
aftertaf:(09:11
Colonel_PanicI deleted them from that ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/ directory, and they disappeared from the menu09:11
Colonel_Panicgood looking out09:12
Colonel_Panicthanks folks09:12
aftertaf:)09:12
Colonel_Panicnow I'm off to bed09:12
aftertafok cyall09:12
Colonel_Panic'preciate it09:12
Colonel_Panicnight09:12
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omsolehif i want to customize just the appearance ubuntu 6.10, what should by me doing?09:16
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ooglebutteomsoleh: do you know that 6.10 has run out of support - no more security updates etc...?09:19
omsolehouw, im sorry . i new about linux. im a newbie.09:20
ooglebutteomsoleh: kde-look will give some clues09:20
ooglebutte!themes09:20
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:20
omsolehthanks about u're info09:20
ooglebuttenp09:21
ooglebutteyou can still ask about stuff tho omsoleh09:21
testi_I have KDE4 installed, but I want to configure the appearance of qt3 apps. KDE3 control center is not available.09:23
_26.6 still supported though09:23
_2!LTS09:23
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.09:23
omsolehall brother thanks a lot09:23
omsolehthanks all. in this channel i get more knowledge about kubuntu n ubuntu09:27
_2warning  /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-system-monitor.desktop    should i delete it ?09:31
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_2desktop file /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-system-monitor.desktop has Type=PanelApp instead of "Application" or "Service"09:37
_2Invalid Service : /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-system-monitor.desktop09:37
Apple_CatHi, could someone help me get the internal wireless working on a Eee PC ?09:38
Apple_CatI just tried installing mad wifi but make didn't finish09:39
ooglebuttethere is a chat channel for the eee - buggers me if I can find atm'09:41
_2Apple_Cat what error ?09:44
omsolehwhere's a place or directory if we download a codec,?09:48
Tm_Twhat codec?09:48
omsolehmp3 codec09:48
Tm_T!mp3 | omsoleh09:49
ubottuomsoleh: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:49
omsolehok09:49
ooglebutte]a codec will prob be in /usr/lib09:50
ooglebutteomsoleh: what's not happn'n?09:50
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/2168009:52
omsolehim using live cd ibex now, and i just now downloaded that codec, and i will install this ibex on my comp09:53
omsolehbut in my home not yet connected a internet connection09:53
omsolehso i will download  codec and copy that in my desktop09:54
_2sorry,   wrong number.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/2168509:54
ooglebutteomsoleh: if you d/load to the live cd then instal you'll need to redownload the codec then09:55
_2is that just information, or is it considered an error ?09:55
ooglebutte_2: that'll be an error09:56
omsolehif we copy-paste that codec on my pc. what will working?09:56
ooglebutteomsoleh: there will be several files - you can d/load the package and copy it to usb then install to your comp with   sudo dpkg -i "package name"09:58
ooglebutte_2: tried following the steps listed there?09:58
_2ooglebutte steps ?   i don't need to "fix" it,  just asking if that clasified as an error or not10:00
_2it doesn't say there was an error installing the kernel, just gives that information...10:00
ooglebutte_2: looks like you were trying to install grub and there wasn't a folder for it10:00
_2ooglebutte just a kernel update.   apt did it.10:01
Apple_CatCould someone help me get the inbuilt wireless working on a Eee PC? The card is a AR242x 802.11abg PCI10:02
ooglebutte_2: a kernel update needs to add to the boot menu normally so it would look for the folder - how do you choose diff kernels?10:02
_2Apple_Cat what error did make fail with ?10:03
Apple_CatI tried installing mad wifi but I got these errors while running make: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80245/10:03
_2ooglebutte i don't use grub.10:03
ooglebuttethat'll be why that shows - I'd ignore it then10:03
_2ouch.10:04
ooglebuttethere is #eeepc for folks that know about the h/ware10:04
srizzi need help my windows keep going black when more then one is open10:04
Apple_CatThanks for that ooglebutte10:05
ooglebutte_2: ubuntu does some extra work on the kernels so including a link to grub might be one of the additions they do10:05
srizzi know its a result of something in the advanced desktop pref. just not what the prob is10:05
ooglebutteApple_Cat: np10:05
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faileasooglebutte: wasn't there a eee specific repo?10:06
srizzanyone?10:06
ooglebuttefaileas: it took me eight goes to find #eeepc - I know nothing about it...10:07
_2Apple_Cat i can't do anything with that error sorry.   hope someone else does get you moving in the right dirrection though.10:07
ooglebutte #eeepc are helping him atm10:08
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ooglebuttesrizz: something about unfocused windows maybe?10:08
faileasooglebutte: http://www.array.org/ubuntu/ i don't have a eee so i can't comment on how good or bad the packages are10:09
_2!eee | faileas also10:09
ubottufaileas also: Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC10:09
_2that what you were thinking of ?10:09
faileas>_>10:09
ooglebuttefaileas: the recommended method is for the custom kernel to get his wireless working apparently10:09
faileasnot really, i linked what i was thinking of ;)10:09
ooglebutte<Tekno> install kernel from www.array.org10:10
faileasoh10:10
faileasmy bad >_:10:10
ooglebuttefurther info - <Tekno> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/setup-intrepid.html10:12
ooglebutte* onx endorses the array.org kernel10:12
piquadratHi. Kopete in kubuntu's KDE 4.2 Beta1 builds has the same dependancy problem as in kde-neon: it depends on libmsn, which is not packaged by ubuntu. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/project-neon/+bug/30133310:13
_2!eee > Apple_Cat10:13
ubottuApple_Cat, please see my private message10:13
Tm_Tpiquadrat: oh, nooo10:13
_2well i linked him that because there are several links on that page that he might want to look at some time10:13
piquadratTm_T: was there some irony in there? :)10:14
Tm_Tpiquadrat: no, but, hey, why not (;)10:14
Apple_CatThanks _2  ^^ that was just what I was after10:15
piquadratIt's just that my friends on MSN start to send me mails why I'm never online and if I'm dead already. On the other hand, it shows just how much KDE 4.2 rocks, me valueing it higher than contact with my friends on MSN :D10:16
faileas;p10:16
ooglebuttehehe10:16
_2Apple_Cat welcome,  and sorry i couldn't do anything with the particular error,  but glad the page is a plus10:17
ooglebutte!amsn10:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn10:17
Tm_Tooglebutte: bah, it's not the same, son10:17
ooglebuttecould have been an alternative...10:18
Tm_Tooglebutte: but it's not, if you're looking for multiprotocol client (:)10:18
piquadratThere's no such thing as an alternative to Kopete :)10:18
Tm_Tpiquadrat: exactly10:18
Tm_Texcept, newer Kopete ;--P10:19
ooglebutteI sit corrected :)10:19
* _2 looked at kopete one time...10:19
Tm_T_2: and still staring it?10:19
_2no.10:19
_2but i don't IM so it just looked like bloat to me10:19
Tm_Theh10:20
noaXessxorg.conf, if i use nv driver, my system font has correct size.. if i use nvidia driver, size 8 for systemfont looks like siez 11 or 12...10:20
noaXessany idea why?10:20
Tm_TnoaXess: hmmmm, dpi, you are used to have forced 96 dpi, right?10:20
Tm_Tas perhaps nVidia driver can get info to calculate correct dpi for you10:20
noaXessTm_T: now it's disabled..10:21
Tm_TnoaXess: what is disabled?10:21
noaXessForce  fonts DPI in apperance..10:22
Tm_TnoaXess: yes, but it might be that something in lower level does it already10:22
remoteCTR1how do i turn on the upgrade from hardy to intrepid in kubuntu?10:22
Tm_T!upgrade10:23
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:23
Tm_TremoteCTR1: ^10:23
remoteCTR1there we go, thanks!10:23
ubuntu_I need A help10:23
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Jesse___hello.10:23
noaXessTm_T: and now? enable force 96 dpi?10:24
jussi01!ask | Jesse___10:24
ubottuJesse___: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:24
Jesse___I ordered 4 kubuntu CDs10:24
Tm_TnoaXess: nvidia drivers in use atm?10:24
Jesse___but I got Ubuntu Desktop Server CDs instead of it10:24
Tm_TnoaXess: sure, try with and without forcing10:24
remoteCTR1Tm_T: well that is exactly my problem: i know where to change from LTS to normal releases in gnome but i dunno how to do that in kde?10:25
Tm_Toh boy...10:25
noaXessTm_T: ok... what you mean with nvidia in use atm?10:25
noaXessat the moment :) ok10:25
noaXessyes nvidia driver10:25
Tm_TremoteCTR1: does kubuntu.org has information?10:25
Tm_TnoaXess: then try if that the difference (:)10:25
Tm_TnoaXess: the dpi that is10:25
Tm_TOutoLumo: kvarkkikarkki10:26
noaXessok.. need restart X10:26
Tm_TnoaXess: relogin, indeed10:26
ooglebutteJesse___: all you can do is make a new order and include a note saying what happened10:26
remoteCTR1Tm_T: dont seem so, at least i dindt find it ona quicksearch10:26
Jesse___Ok....now, what shall I do with the Server Edition CDs??10:27
Jesse___(which I got instead of Kubuntu)10:27
remoteCTR1ah i found it10:27
remoteCTR1its in the adept manager10:27
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Jesse___Can they be used as Desktop Edition nes??10:28
Tm_Tsure10:28
ooglebutteJesse___: you can d/load xorg and a desktop environment and the apps you want to make a light distro yourself10:30
Jesse___Can I have the Linux Mint menu in Kubuntu?10:31
jussi01Jesse___: which one is that?10:32
jussi01Jesse___: sorry I had to run before10:33
lukas__hojjj10:34
lukas__hello10:34
jussi01hi lukas__10:34
lukas__i need matlab/simulink for kubuntu 8.1010:34
lukas__Octave is matlab command line only10:35
jussi01lukas__: can you elaborate what you are after? Im still not sure what you are talking about10:36
lukas__potrebuju program kterej jede jen ve windows a to matlab r2007b a shanim nejakou jeho alternativu pod linux nasel sem jen GNU Octave coz je jen command line ale ja potrebuju i Simulink10:40
Tm_T!cz10:41
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.10:41
lukas__ok10:42
lukas__!Cz10:44
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.10:44
ubuntu-dronhello10:59
ubuntu-dronhas anyone packaged 180.06 nvidia beta driver?11:00
ooglebuttetried at getdeb?11:04
ubuntu-dronno luck11:09
ooglebuttesays it all I expect...11:11
ooglebutte!nvidia11:11
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:11
janorcuttwhy would ne1 package a beta driver?11:11
ooglebutteoptimism?11:12
ubuntu-dronbecause of promised solving of artefact problems11:12
ubuntu-dronaha, for certain extent11:12
janorcuttyeah, best off downloading the installer from nvidia11:12
ooglebutte https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto   tells how11:12
ubuntu-dronthanx a lot11:13
ubuntu-dronwill I need to reinstall the driver each time the kerniel is updated?11:13
janorcuttprobably unless canonicals updated the repos by then11:13
ubuntu-dronthat's what I meant11:14
ooglebutte/etc/modules is for loading modules at boot11:14
janorcuttbut the module has to be compiled against the current kernel version11:15
ooglebuttethat does make it hard then...11:16
janorcuttyeah but worth it if youve got one of the latest cards!!!11:16
ubuntu-dronI got the point :)11:17
ooglebutteyou don't "have" to have the latest kernel11:17
ubuntu-dronI'd rather need to get rid of artefacts in KDE 411:17
ubuntu-dronthat's the main point for me11:17
jussi01Ok, lets get back to support, not why you need the latest driver arguments..11:18
janorcutti thought i was supporting another user!!!11:19
ooglebuttebut it is kubuntu support here not nvidia I suppose11:21
ubuntu-dronthanx for help ;)11:21
ooglebuttenp :)11:21
janorcutthaving an nvida card myself, i can support other ubuntu users...11:21
ooglebutteI'm with you there janorcutt11:22
janorcuttbrb coffee calling11:22
tompsonhi11:23
tompsoni just did an update to 4.2b111:23
janorcuttyes11:26
Heinzso see you next...11:38
ubuntu-dron2 everyone suffering from artifacts on nvidia cards in KDE 4. The latest beta actually solves the problem11:39
zetheroowhat is the equivalent of Update manager for Kubuntu?11:40
lcwwhat is konversation?11:40
lcwit is the first time, i use this tool11:40
ooglebutte!konversation11:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation11:40
ooglebuttelcw: it is a chat client11:41
lcwlol, what is the advantage of this tool?11:41
ooglebutteit is built to work with kde is it's main advantage for kubuntu users11:43
ooglebutte*its'11:43
JavaJimHi11:44
JavaJimAnyone else having problems with kopete on 4.2b1?11:44
Lindowsanyone know how to configure konverstaion to go through a proxy?11:44
ooglebutteJavaJim: someone mentioned that earlier11:45
JavaJimDamn... :)11:45
mschiffDid someone already report the packaging bug in the kde 4.2beta1 packages where /usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/actions/edit-delete-page.svgz is in both packages: kjots and kmail?11:45
Lindowsbrb11:45
lukas__!ham11:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ham11:45
JavaJimooglebutte: Was there a solution?11:45
lukas__!joke11:45
ubottuYou might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.11:45
lukas__!news11:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about news11:46
lukas__!nick11:46
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode11:46
ooglebutteJavaJim: I didn't see one but wasn't paying that much attention...11:46
JavaJimooglebutte: OK11:46
ooglebutte!messagethebot | lukas11:46
ubottulukas: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".11:46
Apple_CatHi, I had to modprobe a module to get my wireless working, will that module be activated from now onward or do I have to add it to a config file?11:47
ooglebutteApple_Cat: you can add that module to /etc/modules to get it used at boot11:48
ooglebuttekdesu kate /etc/modules   in konsole11:48
JavaJimI have kopete segfaulting on me with lots of "undefined symbol" errors in different plugins (icq, jabber). If someone know a solution, please let me know.11:48
ooglebutteJavaJim: is a bug listed for that maybe?11:49
ooglebutte!bugs11:49
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots11:49
Apple_CatThanks again ooglebutte : )11:49
zetheroowhat is the equivalent of Update manager for Kubuntu?11:49
ooglebuttenp :)11:50
janorcuttadept updater11:50
JavaJimooglebutte: The release notes say I shouldn't fill bugs against 4.2b1, so I did not check... Will do now!11:50
ooglebuttepays to look11:50
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ActionParsnip1yo yo yo11:57
janorcuttaiii11:58
* jussi01 waves at ActionParsnip111:58
* ActionParsnip1 waves back to jussi0111:58
ActionParsnip1does anyone here run compiz + kde 4.1?11:59
ActionParsnip1I cant resize app windows12:00
unixwhy is kubuntu not recognizing the mic or the record device?12:01
ouglebutteActionParsnip1: there's no min max close buttons?12:02
ActionParsnip1unix: is your sound configured correctly? so the correct device for input is used12:02
ActionParsnip1ouglebutte: oh i have those, just when i try to resize, the app window doesnt change size12:02
ouglebuttek12:03
unixyes....when i see mixer i can niether see mic nor stereo mix....12:03
ActionParsnip1i can restore and maximise12:03
ActionParsnip1unix: i'd check sound settings in systemsettings12:03
ouglebutteActionParsnip1: #compiz-fusion might be able to help if noone here can12:03
ActionParsnip1yeah was gonna head over, but was wondering if its a kde 4.1 feature ;)12:04
unixits showing HDA intel under capture12:04
ouglebutte!intelhda12:04
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto12:04
ActionParsnip1unix: is there another option ?12:05
ActionParsnip1unix: maybe you havent unmuted the mic? maybe the mic volume is low12:05
ActionParsnip1unix: have you cranked up mic gain12:06
ThinkMinusHello12:06
ActionParsnip1!hi | ThinkMinus12:06
ubottuThinkMinus: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:06
ThinkMinusA friend of mine recently switched to Kubuntu from ubuntu12:07
ThinkMinusand neither he nor I are linux experts :(12:07
ThinkMinusWhen he was on ubuntu his internet worked fine12:07
ThinkMinus but inside Kubuntu his internet connection is not working12:07
ThinkMinusHe is using an ADSL 2+ broadband connection12:08
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: can you ping 38.99.130.18012:08
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: can you ping www.bmezine.com12:08
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: can you ping your routers ip?12:08
ThinkMinusActionParsnip1: I dont have access to my friend's PC now12:09
ThinkMinusI am at my home now12:09
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: well note what I suggested and test12:09
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: if you can ping the ip but not the name then dns is failing12:09
ThinkMinusWhen he was on ubuntu he used the pppoeconf command to setup his internet connection12:09
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: if you can't ping the router, you have an issue with the config of the interface12:10
ThinkMinusI will try as you suggested ActionParsnip112:10
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: he may have to rerun it. im not sure where settings for that are stored but kde may store it differently to gnome12:10
ouglebuttethat sight could scare some folk12:10
ouglebuttesite  even12:10
ActionParsnip1ouglebutte: tattoos and piercings are not scary12:11
ouglebuttehehe12:11
ThinkMinusBut if I ever need to set IP address, DNS information etc. where should I find some "network config" sort of program12:11
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skarnwhen i try to install KDE 4.2 beta112:11
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ActionParsnip1ouglebutte: its just an ip i use to test dns fails12:11
skarni have issues with the package kjots12:11
ActionParsnip1skarn: what if you install it seperately?12:12
ouglebutteActionParsnip1: please excuse my humor :)12:12
unixany software to record sound using mic?12:12
skarnapt-get tells me it tries to overwrite a ile that belongs to kmail12:12
ActionParsnip1ouglebutte: np man. its been a slow day for me12:12
ThinkMinusActionParsnip1 : Is there any possibility of using NDISwrapper with non wireless router?12:12
ActionParsnip1ThinkMinus: i believe so, yes. makes sense, try it12:13
skarntrying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/actions/edit-delete-page.svgz', which is also in package kmail12:13
skarnis the error i get frm dpkg12:13
ThinkMinusActionParsnip1 : Oh... ty I will report back results in one hour or so :)12:13
ActionParsnip1skarn: you could force it but its risky12:14
ActionParsnip1skarn: do you use kmail?12:15
skarni do12:15
ActionParsnip1bah12:15
skarnelse i would have given up installing dkepim12:15
janorcuttunix: ardour is good if youve got jack12:16
ActionParsnip1skarn: i'd try using some kind of force12:16
skarnActionParsnip1: i'm not afraid of forcing, as the only thing that seems to be oberwritten is an icon12:16
ActionParsnip1skarn: then id go for it, you ca always remove and reinstall kmail if it goes wonky12:16
ouglebuttedpkg -i --force-overwrite   I think it is12:17
skarnouglebutte: ok, i'm trying12:17
ouglebutteluck :)12:17
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unixwhat is ALSA.....can i use it for my intel motherboard?12:20
ooglebutteunix: alsa is a sound daemon iirc and yes you should be able to12:21
ooglebutteadvanced linux sound system it stands for12:21
janorcuttalsa should be active in the kernel12:21
ooglebuttealsamixer   in konsole to be able to turn things up12:22
janorcuttgood thing is if alsa is running kmix will pick it up automatically12:22
skarni'm now getting a similar error with pkg-kde-tools12:22
skarntrying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts12:22
unixdoes it give me access to my mic?12:22
janorcuttyes12:23
janorcuttis the short answer12:23
skarni will force this too as i don't think it will mess with something i will use12:23
ooglebutteit should if you have the module set up12:23
ooglebutteunix: ^12:23
unixyes i get the alsa mixer in console12:25
skarnother errors with kde-icons-oxygen and kde-icons-mono, icons again, will overwrite12:25
unixbut i dont know how to increae mic volume12:25
janorcuttunmute the mic and use the slider12:25
unixbut its showing 3-4 mics12:26
skarnfinally did it12:26
janorcutttry good old trial and error12:26
unixok....but how to check the mic12:27
skarni will now restart kde12:28
unixhow to install virualbox additional tools for xp?12:30
ActionParsnip1unix: boot the xp vm12:32
unixok....1 sex12:33
ActionParsnip1unix: once its up in the top bar click across them and read down, one will say "install guest additions"12:33
ActionParsnip1unix: then say yes to what it asks12:33
unixi did12:33
unixbut it says it cant find the vbadditions.iso12:34
Apple_CatFor programs that aren't in the repositories or aren't available as .debs, is it recommended to turn the source into a deb?12:34
Apple_Cat(before installing)12:34
ActionParsnip1unix: then just download that file yourself and mount it in the OS12:34
ActionParsnip1unix: it will act like you put a driver cd in the xp machine12:34
unixwhere can i download it?12:35
bentob0xquick question: what does the qt4 updates from this morning fix?12:35
ActionParsnip1unix: just websearch the filename, it will pop up someplace for you to download12:35
unixok...1 sec12:35
ActionParsnip1unix: have it mounted at boot and boot from hard drive first so its ignored, when you open up my computer in the vm you will be able to install its goodness12:38
unixok12:38
unixthanks action parsip12:41
ActionParsnip1unix: np man12:41
bentob0xappart from kopete, is there any other major issues with 4.2beta 1?12:44
bentob0xand even that, maybe there is a small patch for kopete yet?12:44
ActionParsnip1bentob0x: i dont use either12:45
mefisto__are there any text editors in official repos geared for web/html work? what I'd like especially is code completion and end tag completion12:53
Pici!html | mefisto__12:54
ubottumefisto__: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/12:54
PiciI'm sure at least one of those has end-tag completion, not sure about regular code completion stuff though.12:55
sixty8kmefisto__: of those, Quanta+ does pretty much what you want and much more.12:57
mefisto__thanks Pici12:57
sixty8kBut there is no KDE4 version yet..12:57
mefisto__sixty8k: there is a quanta-kde4 package13:02
Mamarokhm, there are dependency problems in the 4.2 beta:13:05
Mamarokdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepimlibs5_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libakonadi-kabc.so.4', which is also in package akonadi-kde13:05
ActionParsnip1Mamarok: you could force it but its risky13:06
rodrigooi13:06
MamarokActionParsnip1: tried to force, no result13:06
rodrigoalguem por ai ?13:06
ActionParsnip1Mamarok: try deleting the deb at fault then using apt-get with force13:07
MamarokActionParsnip1: doesn't work, as I said before, it gives me a list of like 30 other dependencies and stops13:09
Mamarokoh, you mean, deleting kdepimlibs5?13:09
ActionParsnip1Mamarok: you could uninstall the lib, yes13:10
ActionParsnip1then the install will be ok13:10
janorcuttenglish rodrigo13:11
ActionParsnip1Mamarok: if its still no good, you can reinstall it13:11
JontheEchidnaMamarok:  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepimlibs5_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.de13:11
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JontheEchidnathen sudo apt-get install -f13:12
JontheEchidnaThanks for the report13:12
MamarokJontheEchidna: works now, at least it continues13:13
Mamarokhm, I talked a bit fast, same problem again, this time with kalzium13:14
Mamarokdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kalgebra_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libcompoundviewer.so.4.2.0', which is also in package kalzium13:14
JontheEchidnatrying to overwrite a package which is in the same package o.O13:15
* Mamarok forces overwriting13:15
JontheEchidna*file which is in the same package13:15
* JontheEchidna doesn't get that13:15
Mamarokwell, if I'll have that every 3 packages, I will never get around before Jaunty :-/13:16
JontheEchidnathere shouldn't be too many like that. We did so a bit of testing :P13:16
JontheEchidnaso -> do13:16
Mamarokhm, seems to run smoother now13:18
MamarokJontheEchidna: thx :)13:18
MamarokOo, three other ones:13:19
* JontheEchidna prepares a fix for kdepimlibs for the ppa13:20
Mamarokkde-icons-oxygen_4, kdesdk-dev_4, kdebase-workspace-data_413:20
Mamaroksame problem, can't overwrite files13:20
JontheEchidnain what packages are each of them trying to overwrite files in?13:21
ActionParsnip1Mamarok: bet you are loving bettering kde :)13:21
mefisto__quanta is going to make my life a little easier. thanks sixty8k13:22
Joseph_KHow do I enable an Intel 3945 ABG wireless device?13:22
sam38ActionParsnip1 : Hello, This is thinkminus...We had a chat about half an hour ago13:22
MamarokActionParsnip1: I love KDE, that does the trick :)13:22
sam38I am trying to make internet up and running at my friend's house13:23
* Mamarok was a very early adopter of KDE 413:23
ActionParsnip1sam38: sup13:23
sam38I tried ifconfig and the out put is : nk encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:4d:af:7e:4613:23
sam38          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:4dff:feaf:7e46/64 Scope:Link13:23
sam38          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:113:23
sam38          RX packets:101 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:013:23
sam38          TX packets:98 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:013:23
sam38          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100013:23
sam38          RX bytes:6580 (6.5 KB)  TX bytes:6068 (6.0 KB)13:23
sam38          Interrupt:21 Base address:0x800013:23
sam38lo        Link encap:Local Loopback13:23
sam38          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.013:23
sam38          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host13:23
sam38          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:113:23
sam38          RX packets:228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:013:23
sam38          TX packets:228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:013:23
ActionParsnip1Mamarok: i love kde too, its all ive used and it works so i'm sticking with it13:23
sam38          collisions:0 txqueuelen:013:24
sam38          RX bytes:16872 (16.8 KB)  TX bytes:16872 (16.8 KB)13:24
ActionParsnip1sam38: please dont flood. use pastebin13:24
sam38ok13:24
sam38OOOPS I forgot SORRY13:24
ActionParsnip1its completly unreadable and scrolls everyones client, imagine if 5 peopl did the same13:24
MamarokJontheEchidna: I reloaded the packages, then apt-get install -f, runs for now, but there are 200+, I'll report back13:24
ActionParsnip1!paste | sam3813:24
ubottusam38: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:24
DaSkreechMamarok: KDe 4.2 Beat 1 ?13:25
sam38ActionParsnip1 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/80318/13:26
ActionParsnip1sam38: better, ok wassup?13:27
MamarokDaSkreech: beta 1, yes13:27
sam38Actionparsnip1 :The internet is not running....If I try pinging www.google.com OR router OR some IP address I get "network is unreachable"13:28
sam38I had manually entered my IP address, DNS, mask etc.13:28
ActionParsnip1sam38: ok are you connecting wired or wireless?13:28
sam38wired13:28
sam38ADSL 2+ router13:28
ActionParsnip1sam38: ok so if you use static ip does it work?13:29
sam38Nope13:29
ActionParsnip1sam38: is the cable between the systemsplugged in fully and is the activity light on when it clicks in13:29
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sam38ActionParsnip1 : internet is working under XP and with same connection IP settings.13:31
sam38ActionParsnip1 ": Although Activity LED is not flashing in Kubuntu13:31
ActionParsnip1sam38: can i have a pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces please13:31
MamarokJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80324/13:31
Mamarokanother series of overwriting problems13:31
sam38ActionParsnip1: ok...just a minute please13:32
JontheEchidnaMamarok: kde-icons oxygen trying to overwrite koffice is known. Somebody'll have to update the koffice package and put it in the k-e ppa I guess13:34
JontheEchidnagonna have to talk to Riddell about the pkg-kde-tools one, since he knows that better than I13:34
JontheEchidnakjots is very solvable though13:35
JontheEchidnaunfortunately kdepim takes like 2 hours to build on the build servers, lol13:35
Mamaroknp, I can wait :)13:36
* Mamarok is at home with sort of flu and has plenty of time13:36
DaSkreech\o/13:36
* DaSkreech hugs Mamarok13:36
MamarokDaSkreech: thx :)13:37
sam38ActionParsnip1 : Here are contents of /etc/network/interfaces  :    http://paste.ubuntu.com/80328/13:37
ActionParsnip1sam38: is theis a usb modem type afair?13:40
sam38ActionParsnip1 : Nope...It is connected to ethernet port13:41
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Found a few bugs in 4.2 already13:41
ActionParsnip1sam38: ok well eth0 is set to static ip at the moment13:42
sam38yes13:42
ActionParsnip1sam38: but with no configuration for ip addresses13:42
sam38ActionParsnip1 : No...I set it's IP address13:43
ActionParsnip1with some gui app?13:43
sam38ActionParsnip1 : yes...13:44
sam38GUI app That came with Kubunutu 8.1013:44
ActionParsnip1sam38: try adding lines like these to your interfaces file for eth0:13:44
ActionParsnip1http://pastebin.com/f44c9f6c413:44
umarzukihi all13:45
umarzukii got problem hearing sound13:45
umarzukialready tried alternating between alsa and oss13:45
ActionParsnip1!sound | umarzuki13:45
ubottuumarzuki: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:45
umarzukieven konqueror doesn't seem to work13:46
jaaroohi there. I've upgraded to intrepid and in Konsole the choice of fonts is really very narrow. Why is that I can't choose Bitstream Vera Sans Mono though it is installed on my machine?13:46
umarzukii'm using 8.0.413:46
sam38ActionParsnip1 : Where will I find interfaces file for eth0?13:46
sam38I must mention that I am a linux newbie13:47
umarzukisam38, what do you want to do with that?13:47
ActionParsnip1sam38: look at your interfaces file, you have a line that says iface eth0 inet manual13:47
lokaihey is there a way to make a PDF take up less disk space? I'm not talking about compressing with gzip or the like13:47
umarzukisam38: /etc/network/interfaces13:48
ActionParsnip1sam38: if under that you add lines like the ones in the pastebin I gave, you can set the ip there13:48
jaaroosam38: in ol' good days it was in /etc/network/interface though i suppose this is not compatible with knetworkmanager13:48
ActionParsnip1sam38: you'll need to use: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces to edit it13:48
ActionParsnip1sam38: just change the adressing to match your own subnet (if its different)13:49
umarzukijaaroo: any idea why konqurer doesn't work as internet browser but i can use kopete?13:49
umarzukianyone?13:49
jaarooumarzuki: anything13:49
sam388ActionParsnip1 : Hi I am back...I am sam38...13:52
ActionParsnip1umarzuki: do you have any firewall rules configured?13:52
ActionParsnip1sam388: hi13:52
sam388I would just like to ask where is inerface file for eth0 located13:52
umarzukiActionParsnip1: no, just installed with wubi13:52
ActionParsnip1umarzuki: oh then ive noo idea. if you restart networking does it work?13:53
ActionParsnip1sam388: i already told you.13:53
ActionParsnip1sam388: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces13:53
ActionParsnip1sam388: where eth0 is defined, add the lines from mine to specify the ip address13:54
sam388ok13:54
umarzukiActionParsnip1: /etc/init.d/networking restart?13:54
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ActionParsnip1sam388: once its all added, save and exit then run what umarzuki sayd13:55
ActionParsnip1umarzuki: ty man13:55
ActionParsnip1umarzuki: yes thats the command to restart networking13:55
sam388ok13:55
ActionParsnip1umarzuki: you'll need sudo13:55
umarzukidid that but it's weird that konqueror is still like that13:57
umarzukinever had this problem before13:57
ActionParsnip1umarzuki: i dont use koonqueror so i cant clarify it13:57
umarzukii just downloaded codecs for kafeine just now13:57
umarzukiok, i'll try firefox13:57
sam388ActionParsnip1 : Can you please upload the contents of the file (you told) : http://pastebin.com/f44c9f6c4 to some other paste bin ...I cannot access pastebin.com server now from my country13:58
ActionParsnip1yeah its down13:58
ActionParsnip1gimme a sec13:58
sam388ok13:59
ActionParsnip1sam388: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80335/14:00
ActionParsnip1sam388: ignore the last 2 lines, putty has weird controls14:00
chris__hello14:05
DaSkreech!hi14:05
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:05
chris__thank you14:05
chris__am clad to be here14:06
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Kemcoi like to know how to install pool games in by linux laptop, can anyone help me please??14:08
ActionParsnip1Kemco:  sudo apt-get install foobillard14:10
Kemcothanks14:12
Kemcolet me try14:12
KemcoActionparsnip1: am downloading now, i love linux men, am still newbies that is why am asking14:14
DaSkreechWelcome!!14:14
DaSkreechGlad to have you14:14
ActionParsnip1Kemco: you'll learn14:14
ActionParsnip1Kemco: in that package i think theirs also a monkyball madness equiv using the same engine14:16
Kemcohow do i get that too14:16
Kemco?14:16
DaSkreechoooooooooooooooooooh Monkey ball!!!14:16
Kemcodaskreech : is it pool game too or another game14:17
MamarokJontheEchidna: running 4.2 beta now14:18
JontheEchidnawhee~!14:18
MamarokKonsole loads with zero tabs14:18
Mamarokone has to add a tab to be able to use14:18
DaSkreechhttp://www.sega.com/smba/14:18
JontheEchidnayeah, it did that for the first start and then crashed14:18
DaSkreechKemco: ^^^14:18
JontheEchidnawhen I tried to close it14:18
JontheEchidnabut after that everything was ok14:18
DaSkreechKemco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Monkey_Ball14:19
Mamarokshiny, my pixel errors in the system tray ar gone14:20
KemcoDaskreech thanks for the link14:20
ActionParsnip1Kemco: its both games I believe14:20
JontheEchidnaThey also have a multirow task manager too14:20
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Is Quicksand going to be packaged?14:21
JontheEchidnaDaSkreech: isn't it already?14:22
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Didn't check14:22
JontheEchidnaalt f2 -> configuration wrench -> user interface tab14:22
JontheEchidnatask oriented = quicksand14:22
DaSkreechDroooooool14:22
Mamarokand Akonadi keeps crashing, will have to install the debug packages to get a backtrace14:23
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Do you know if I can type someone's name and get the option to IM them?14:25
JontheEchidnadunno14:25
DaSkreechJontheEchidna: Hmm The externders eem a bit funky14:30
JontheEchidnayeah, needs polishing14:30
DaSkreechI dragged off a progress bar and it stuck to the dashboard14:31
DaSkreechnow if I do anything to it Plasma crashes14:31
JontheEchidnao.O14:31
DaSkreechI did the same with a user logging in and it stuck to the dashboard but I couldn't interact with it14:31
DaSkreechI got rid of it after a while14:31
DaSkreechI have an issue with Present windows but I guess that's easily bugged14:32
DaSkreechThe coverswitch is a bit more difficult14:32
DaSkreechit randomly disappears though it's still working14:32
khaotiki am having trouble getting my widgets to stay where i would like them on my panel. could anyone help me with this?14:35
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Kemcohow can i install driving simulator (car) in linux14:41
Kemcocan anyone help new am new with linux14:42
Kemcoam using ubuntu14:42
DaSkreechKemco: Try Vdrift14:42
DaSkreech!info vdrift14:42
ubottuPackage vdrift does not exist in intrepid14:42
DaSkreechhmm14:42
Kemcoso how do i get it vdrift installed14:43
DaSkreechI thought it was in the repos Apparently I was wrong14:43
khaotikcould anyone help me with getting my panel fixed? everytime i try to place my widgets in a certain place and lock them to panel, whenever i reboot they get scattered all over the place and i dont evven have a window switcher14:44
DaSkreechKemco: Try torcs14:44
DaSkreechkhaotik: set everything the way you want then in konsole type kquitapp plasma ; plasma14:44
DaSkreechThat should force a writeout of the config14:44
khaotikthats the problem. my clock it wont let me set all the way to right anymore. everytime i put it there it just centers it up. i think i have tried everything i know.14:45
khaotikit wont let me place them where i want them at all14:46
xp-killeri conected my pc to my flat screen how do i put my pc to 16:9?14:51
DaSkreechkhaotik: Do you have the panel in center mode?14:52
khaotikno i have tried it in all three. whenever i click on the clock to move it has a shaded area of where i can move it and it just puts it in the center14:53
DaSkreechkhaotik: I have it alll the way over <----------- there now14:54
DaSkreechkhaotik: Course I'm in KDE 4.2 so ....14:54
xp-killeri conected my pc to my flat screen tv how do i put my pc to 16:9 to play it on full screen on my tv?14:55
DaSkreechxp-killer: Change the resolution ?14:56
xp-killerDaSkreech: where?i dont see no option for 16:9 i only see for screen size14:57
xp-killerDaSkreech: unless i have to restart the pc so it can detect the screen size cause i just buy the cable n plug it in like that14:57
DaSkreechxp-killer: Linux is strange with stuff like that14:58
xp-killerDaSkreech: im going to restart14:58
donavananyone want to give me a giant silver spoon (or smack on the head) on how to setup dual head video on ati with different screen resolutions?15:01
DaSkreech!dualhead15:02
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama15:02
donavanI'm on intrepid15:02
xp-killerDaisuke_Ido: ok now is full screen i just had to restart it cause it was set for a none 16:9 screen so it detected in on a 16:9 so it fix it self15:03
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DaSkreech!find stdio.h15:26
ubottuFile stdio.h found in avr-libc, clanlib-doc, cmix, codeblocks-dev, dietlibc-dev (and 53 others)15:26
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cracksmokehey thinking of using kubuntu15:38
cracksmokewhat u girls think?15:38
cracksmokehi girls15:39
sigma20do i have to update my base installation before installing the 4.2 beta?15:41
sigma20and are there no 4.2 plasmoids available at all?15:42
reijimaigoei15:42
zauwn!pt15:42
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:42
JontheEchidnasigma20: there are lots of  plasmoids for KDE 4.215:42
JontheEchidnait's just a few like the quickaccess plasmoid that haven't been ported yet15:42
reijimaigowhy my display is blinking in every 5 second???15:43
reijimaigoi use kde15:43
reijimaigowen i using kde15:44
sigma20rats thats the one i need the most!15:44
reijimaigoT_T15:44
reijimaigoako pa ngayun ung daga15:44
ephoenixhey everyone15:45
DaSkreechsigma20: Huh? What do you mean there are no 4.2 plasmlids?15:45
mahdihi15:45
DaSkreechreijimaigo: Drivers maybe15:45
sigma20JontheEchidna: so is it really necessary to upgrade my base intrepid system before i install the 4.2 beta?15:45
JontheEchidnasigma20: your intrepid system will be upgraded if you upgrade to KDE 4.2, unless you use pinning or something15:46
JontheEchidnareijimaigo: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/15:46
reijimaigoT_T i think.... my video driver is a problem15:46
sigma20JontheEchidna: well if i dont update intrepid apt says the update will be 106mb and not 278mb. quite a difference on my side. so was just wondering if its really necessary to do the total upgrade15:48
JontheEchidnasigma20: you'll need to update the strigi, phonon and soprano related packages15:48
reijimaigoJontheEchidna: but i don't have agp slot... im using vga display15:49
reijimaigoT_T15:49
geniiHm15:49
JontheEchidnareijimaigo: the solution should work for you, just disable the service mentioned15:50
JontheEchidnathe randr one15:50
sigma20best i just hand around till the final or jaunty. thats way too much bandwidth for me to use!15:50
sigma20thanks for the help15:50
reijimaigoJontheEchidna : but how??? can u guide me...15:51
JontheEchidnaSystem Settings -> Advanced tab -> service manager15:52
ephoenixhi, I just install kde 4.2 beta. And notice I dont see all the images but I see the text. Is anyone having the same problem?15:52
reijimaigoJontheEchidna : ok w815:53
nixternalnice, a doors tribute there Mojo_risin :)15:56
Mojo_risinnixternal: true :)15:56
* DaSkreech pokes nixternal with the pointy stick of NoticeMe!15:56
* nixternal truns away and walks for the door15:57
Mojo_risinI'm having some errors when upgrading to 4.2 beta1, anyone with the same problem?15:57
DaSkreechnixternal: planning on Kamping with us?15:57
DaSkreechMojo_risin: No idea if we don't know the errors15:57
nixternaltrying to15:57
DaSkreechwhooot15:57
ephoenixMojo: me too15:59
ubuzztuhello16:07
ubuzztui installed kubuntu 7.10 via wubi16:07
ephoenixhi16:07
ubuzztunow can't get rid of it16:07
ubuzztuI did an uninstall via xp add/remove16:08
ubuzztuit is no longer in add/remove but i can still boot into it16:08
ubuzztui do not see any wubi directories in xp16:09
PSiL0hmm, due to the idle bug in ubuntu, my /var/log partition (1gig) filled up rather quickly16:09
PSiL0I deleted the large logs that took up the space and rebooted16:10
PSiL0however, /var/log is still full16:10
PSiL0any suggestions?16:10
reijimaigohuhu not working16:10
reijimaigoit the same16:10
reijimaigoblinking my display in KDE16:10
reijimaigowhat can i do16:10
reijimaigo???16:10
reijimaigoT_T16:10
reijimaigosudo apt-get install kubundu-desktop16:12
reijimaigo^_^16:12
PSiL0in sudo dolphin, /var/log takes up 16.3Mb, but the partition still says 0 out of 963Mb available16:13
PSiL0what gives?16:14
ephoenixPSiL0: do a 'apt-get clean all'16:15
ephoenixPSiL0: do a 'sudo apt-get clean all'16:16
Mojo_risinDaSkreech: http://rafb.net/p/GtpBx468.html16:17
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olivier^_^Hi, I compiled vlc 0.9.5 and installed it16:18
Mojo_risinhere are the error when upgrading to 4.2: http://rafb.net/p/GtpBx468.html16:18
olivier^_^How do I uninstall it?? I tried sudo make -uninstall ...nothing16:18
reijimaigonothing at all16:18
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PSiL0i'll try16:19
PSiL0ephoenix: i'll try16:19
reijimaigoexample to unstall: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop16:19
JontheEchidnaMojo_risin: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb16:19
PSiL0apparently, the idle bug has been reported (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/286285)16:20
reijimaigoJontheEchidna ;blinking my display in KDE what can i do????16:20
reijimaigoJontheEchidna ;blinking my display in KDE what can i do????16:20
JontheEchidnago to that place in systemsettings and turn the randr service off16:20
PSiL0ephoenix: no beans with apt-get16:21
reijimaigoJontheEchidnabut where in system setings16:21
reijimaigoJontheEchidna : randr service off where can i found??16:22
ephoenixPSiL0: ok, there is something else, that me think16:22
PSiL0ephoenix:  thanks.. I'm also going to rattle off a post in kubuntuforms..16:23
reijimaigoJontheEchidna : randr service off where can i found??16:23
PSiL0weird how after deleting something to clear up space in the /var/log partition, the partition still says that the partition is full16:24
PSiL0i expressly partitioned my setup to avoid huge log files dragging "/" down16:24
reijimaigoT_T16:25
reijimaigousing C++ and assembly16:25
ephoenixPSiL0: what happen when you did apt-get clean all?16:25
reijimaigoT_T16:25
reijimaigoi have ni idea16:26
reijimaigoto16:26
reijimaigoresolv16:26
reijimaigomy16:26
reijimaigoproblem16:26
PSiL0ephoenix: nothing happened in /var/log16:26
snakefacewhats the weather plasmoid called and how do i get it?16:26
genii!enter | reijimaigo16:26
ubottureijimaigo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:26
PSiL0still says 16.3Mb used in the dialog box, and then 0 out of 963Mb available..16:26
reijimaigook16:26
snakefaceenter as punctuation.16:27
snakefaceinteresting16:27
snakefacewording16:27
PSiL0it is on a partition dedicated for /var/log16:27
snakefacethere16:27
reijimaigohehehe16:27
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reijimaigosorry16:27
geniisnakeface: Please, don't encourage :)16:27
snakefacek16:27
snakefaceseruously though can the weather plasmoid just be installed through adept or is it a hassle?16:28
reijimaigorunning the windows program in ubundu linux.... using wine...16:29
reijimaigobut not all program16:29
geniireijimaigo: There is a list of programs on the wine website, it is called appdb. It tells how well or not things may work16:30
genii!appdb | reijimaigo16:30
ubottureijimaigo: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:30
PSiL0ephoenix: found it16:31
reijimaigogenii & ubottu : thanks ^^16:31
Mojo_risinJontheEchidna: it worked, thanks!16:32
PSiL0apparently, when trying to delete the abberrent log files, the system moved another copy to a hidden directory in /var/log16:32
PSiL0in /var/log/.Trash-016:32
ephoenixPSiL0: great, wow16:32
ephoenixPSiL0: Is most of the things cleared16:33
PSiL0ephoenix: now 863Mb free16:33
PSiL0whew16:33
edjuIn order to use gtkpod w/ an iPod nano, I have to format it to fat32.  I fired up gparted, but it reports that the nano is 900some MB, when it's an 8GB model.  How to format this thing?16:33
PSiL0ephoenix: shift+del did the trick16:34
ephoenixPSiL0:great, how you found out16:36
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antonio_#ubuntu-es16:36
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PSiL0ephoenix: well, something else is taking up 120Mb in there... bah I'll leave it for another day16:37
PSiL0ephoenix: thanks man16:37
ephoenixPSiL0:no problem16:37
wesley__kde4.2 looks much better :)16:38
snakefacei am still having corruption with my graphics, if anyone wants to help install these drivers, i am at a loss.16:39
ephoenixI still have issues with seeing icons with kde 4.216:39
ephoenixsnakeface what kind of graphic card you using?16:40
reijimaigoi have problem in my driver....16:40
wesley__in kde-neon the menu is corrupt16:40
reijimaigomy display is corruption...16:41
reijimaigomy display is corrupting...16:41
wesley__apachelogger thanks for packing kde4.216:41
ephoenixreij and westle: you both just upgrade to kde 4.216:42
snakefaceephoenix intel onboard 865g16:42
dirtbag666hi there16:43
snakefacehullo16:43
ephoenixhey16:43
reijimaigoWhen I experienced this problem, I was also unable to use the mouse. I rebooted, and logged back into the Ubuntu desktop instead of KDE, and went into the /etc/X11/ directory.16:44
reijimaigoYou will probably see that your xorg.conf file was backed up to xorg.conf.1 during the KDE / Kubuntu installation. Just copy the xorg.conf.1 back to xorg.conf, reboot, and everything should be fine.16:44
reijimaigoAgain, don't mess with the xorg.conf file unless you are actually experiencing this problem.16:44
reijimaigoNote: If you are running Ubuntu inside VMware and end up with some really strange display issues where the display resolution is really huge but the desktop is showing up in 800×600 instead (see screenshot), there is a fix for this.16:44
dirtbag666TERRIBLE sound problem with Kubuntu 8.04: Everytime I mute or unmute sound output (same problem with laptop speakers AND external sound devices) there is a very loud "plop" noise as if I pulled the connection cable for my external speakers. Any idea anyone?16:45
reijimaigoNote: If you are running Ubuntu inside VMware and end up with some really strange display issues where the display resolution is really huge but the desktop is showing up in 800×600 instead (see screenshot), there is a fix for this.16:45
snakefaceephoenix: the graphics look corrupted.  you know like a distorted television.  only for a second when they are loading.16:45
reijimaigodriver problem16:45
reijimaigosnakeface : it the same from me16:45
reijimaigohehehe16:45
reijimaigosnakeface : it the same fom me16:46
snakefacereijimaigo i assume it is a driver problem16:46
ephoenixnow this just happen when upgrading to kde 4.216:46
LinuxApesince upgrading to intrepid by cd/dvd burner doesn't recognize any media. Any suggestions?16:46
snakefaceLinuxApe: there were probably issues with the upgrade.  i had to do a clean install of intrepid to get everything to work16:47
reijimaigosnakeface : right!!!!... it is a driver problem.... i don't know how to fix this problem....16:49
LinuxApesnakeface:  Funny thing is, I burned a cd with no problem, had to reboot for some reason (new linux image I think) - hasn't worked since.  blank or recorded dvd's or cd's16:52
delicowareijimaigo try search the repos for th driver or upgrade to a more recent kernel.................................at least it helped me....since i upgraded to 2.6.27-7 my wireless LED comes on and i now have direct rendering on INTEL 945GME graphics card16:52
reijimaigook16:53
reijimaigoi try16:53
reijimaigonothing happen...16:57
dirtbag666any idea for my pop noise problem?17:05
DeadTreeHuggerhi, anybody who's upgraded to kde 4.2 beta 1 found that kopete's MSN backend is no longer available?17:05
DeadTreeHuggerjust wanted to know if it's specific to me only17:05
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blip-hi,  for some reason i just logged onto my laptop and there is no sound.  i maxed out alsamixer, kmix and restarted ALSA system as well as maxed out Amarok.... but no sound is coming out from the speakers or via headphones... i didn't do anything or install anything for the sound.17:12
rodrigoola17:14
rodrigoalguem do brasil por aqui ?17:15
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: For me kopete does not work at all. Can you start it and open the preference dialog? I get "undefined symbols" from the icq and jabber plugins immediately17:16
squid0hi there. where can I find a list of known bugs for kubuntu 4.2 beta 1?17:16
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: well, i'm running it fine17:17
* Waaj has to go, bbl17:18
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Crap. Anyway, I think I saw a "MS Live Messenger" option in the account creation dialog. Could this be the old MSN stuff?17:18
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: i can login to Jabber/Gtalk and chat fine... MSN, however, is completely missing...17:18
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: even my MSN profile that i had previously configured has gone missing17:19
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: my version of Kopete is 0.60.81, does it match with yours?17:20
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Nope: 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1#17:21
JavaJimOh17:21
JavaJimOk, now I see. :)17:21
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Version 0.60.117:21
JavaJimHmm...17:22
LinuxApeAnyone else have a flaky panel?  I think it only happens if I lock the widgets.  Things start disappearing and flickering....17:22
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Did you install kopete alone or is yours included in kdenetwork?17:22
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: i didn't install anything separately...17:22
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: but i had some dependency conflicts17:23
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Can you a "dpkg -S /usr/bin/kopete"?17:24
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: n when i ran "dpkg -f" or something to that effect, it removed my entire kubuntu-desktop17:25
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: kopete: /usr/bin/kopete17:26
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: dpkg -l | grep kopete?17:26
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: so after kubuntu-desktop was removed, i installed it again, n i had a working 4.2... could be traumatic for someone who didn't know better :P17:27
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: ii  kopete                                    4:4.1.80-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1            instant messenger for KDE 417:27
rodrigoboa tarde17:28
rodrigoalguem do brasil ....17:28
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Same here and yet I have Kopete 0.60.1 while you have 0.60.81? Can you doublecheck the version?17:28
DeadTreeHuggeryeah, double checked...17:28
rodrigoi form brazil ...17:30
rodrigowhats ... distro for linux . in saude .17:30
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: ARGH... I have a kopete in /usr/local/bin. :-/17:31
bazhang!br17:31
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:31
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger:  Must be from previous experiments with kde4-svn.17:31
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: heh...17:31
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Sorry for wasting your time. :)17:32
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: no probs :)17:32
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: glad to hv helped...17:32
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: question though, are u able to keep digikam installed (if u hv it installed) without any conflicts?17:32
ubuntoilif I do something like sudo apt-get distupgrade, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop. Is it risky ??17:32
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: No, I removed it during the update due to conflicts17:33
stdin!puregnome17:33
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome »17:33
DeadTreeHuggerJavaJim: yeah, i got that too... sucks... i use digikam a lot17:33
stdinubuntoil: have a look at that ^17:34
ubuntoilstdin: thx17:34
joachimhallo!17:34
komutahi17:35
komutaI have a question regarding strigi and krunner17:35
ubuntoilstdin: no offense but, how reliable is this...??17:36
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: Kopete is working again. Can't believe it took me so long to figure this out... :)17:37
DeadTreeHuggerhaha...17:37
DeadTreeHugger"which kopete" wld've been handy :)17:38
stdinubuntoil: it's the recommended way, that's why it's in the bot17:38
JavaJimDeadTreeHugger: It was... in the end.17:38
ubuntoilstdin: yes, you're right, sorry17:38
ubuntoilstdin: can I do a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then lauch this command in a console mode ?17:39
ubuntoilI mean the one for pure-ubuntu17:40
stdinubuntoil: yeah, you should have ubuntu-desktop installed first17:41
ubuntoilstdin: great, thank you17:41
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Guest53907HI KD417:46
Guest53907KD5 DGF17:46
rodrigoi from brazil ..17:47
Guest53907I FORM SPAIN17:47
rodrigoalguem brasil ?17:48
bazhang!br | rodrigo17:48
ubotturodrigo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:48
wesley__kde4.2 looks fine, user friendly17:59
wesley__I like the blue oyxen17:59
DeadTreeHuggeri'm a bit doubtful abt the cobalt blue they used for the panel background in KDE 4.2... I prefer the black used in 4.1...18:00
RoccoLordhas someone a deb for libmsn for 4.2 beta1?18:00
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wesley__I think the style is better and the blue looks nicer, the black is kind off done, but it still would be nice if it would be the same setting18:03
douglis there a way to configure the task bar in kde to look/feel more like a mac?18:03
wesley__in kde3 there is in baghira, but why would you want that18:03
douglwesley__, I like the auto hide and magnification on hover18:04
wesley__you mean in kde4 ?18:04
douglwesley__, yes18:05
wesley__hmmm doesnt work that well18:05
douglon kubuntu 8.1018:05
wesley__systembar does show first its icons when it comes back up18:06
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wesley__they said dont report bugs18:08
wesley__DeadTreeHugger there is a option to config the panel18:12
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DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: i'm sure there is... it was just a comment on the default look, that's all...18:13
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: but everything sure looks a heckuva lot better than 4.118:14
isaacj87Thanks JontheEchidna, NCommander, vorian, apachelogger for packaging KDE 4.2 beta 1 for us! I really appreciate it :)18:14
wesley__yeah it does, but i must admit looks a bit like vista18:14
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: even performance seems to be slightly better...18:14
wesley__yeah indeed, but its the looks what mathers performance isnt the problen18:15
JontheEchidnaisaacj87: :)18:15
isaacj87Any one know where I can download the original Oxygen panel background file? The one found in 4.1?18:16
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: my X3100's performance is totally crippled on current Intel drivers (getting 80-100 fpx on glxgears running in maximised mode)... enabling desktop fx is impossible...18:16
wesley__i have also intel x3100 works fine18:17
wesley__can enable desktop effects and all18:17
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: yet, in 4.2, enabling desktop fx is at least bearable...18:17
wesley__yes indeed18:17
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__; oh? that's interesting... there may be hope for me yet :)18:17
wesley__never had problems with intel gmas18:18
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__; i thought all Intel users were faced with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/25209418:19
isaacj87wesley__: Sam here. Intel i915, pretty pathetic chipset and it chugs desktop effects along pretty nicely18:19
isaacj87wesley__: same*18:19
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__; what's your framerate like running glxgears in maximised mode?18:19
wesley__i dont know, only thing what mather is that it works18:20
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__; yeah well, but on my laptop currently, it's slow to the point of being counter-productive18:21
DeadTreeHuggermy current laptop is abt 1 year old... core 2 duo system w 4GB RAM n Intel X3100 graphics18:22
cannonhi guys18:22
DeadTreeHuggeri have another Compaq laptop which is about 5 years old... with an ATI Radeon Mobility card inside it18:22
cannoni've just installed kubuntu 8.10 and am having probs with my screen18:22
wesley__i really dont have problems with the x310018:23
cannonfonts are all messed up18:23
DeadTreeHuggerthe old Compaq runs desktop effects abt 3 times faster than my current one18:23
cannoneven with a higher size they are hard to read18:23
cannonhow do I update my graphics driver?18:23
douglcannon, what video card do you have?18:23
wesley__but if there are problems it bet with in a few years they fix it18:23
cannonGTS 8800 dougl18:24
douglcannon, that is nvidia?18:24
cannonyup18:24
cannonthanks18:25
cannonhow do I run this dougl?18:25
edjuIn order to use gtkpod w/ an iPod nano, I have to format it to fat32.  I fired up gparted, but it reports that the nano is 900some MB, when it's an 8GB model.  How to format this thing?18:26
dougl"sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run" when x is not running18:26
wesley__kde4.2 brings use cool new arcade games18:26
cannonhmmm, it's stuck on 0% lol18:26
HappySmileMancannon: I'm running latest NVidia driver for my card and fonts on some programs (esp. those running in Wine or those using foreign character sets) are messed up completely, might be a case of waiting for NVidia to fix it :(18:26
isaacj87wesley__: does it really? I need to install the game package now :)18:27
wesley__edju i just did set a Windows on my system for the iphone18:27
wesley__yes like Bomber, i like the games very much18:27
cannonyeah, but even the desktop it's messed up18:27
cannonand Konversatio18:27
HappySmileManAre there any non-nightly packages for 4.2Beta?18:27
cannonwhich is the default irc app18:27
wesley__they have pacman clone18:27
isaacj87HappySmileMan: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/18:28
isaacj87HappySmileMan: oops...not hat one18:28
douglcannon, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us18:28
HappySmileManOh wait, I see the announcement now on Kubuntu site18:28
isaacj87HappySmileMan: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/5818:28
HappySmileManI thought I had it in Akregator18:28
HappySmileManApparently not18:28
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: would you mind running glxgears in maximized mode n telling me ur framerates? just to satisfy my curiousity n to provide me with more input to find out what problem i have in my setup?18:28
cannonnooooooooooooo! :( just reading is giving me a head ache! :'(18:29
wesley__do i need to instaal it?18:30
isaacj87wesley__: no, just open up a terminal and run glxgears18:30
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: no need... just open up "konsole", then enter the command "glxgears" in konsole...18:30
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: a small window with some moving gears will appear... maximize the window n wait for approx 15-20 seconds18:31
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: then close the window18:31
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: go back to konsole n u'll see some reports on the frame rates18:31
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: i just need that info18:31
wesley__http://paste.ubuntu.com/80447/18:33
cannonhow do you open a new server in Konversation?18:34
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: thanks!18:36
wesley__and do i have the bug to?18:37
DeadTreeHuggerhmmm...18:38
JohnFluxcannon: File->server list   New18:38
DeadTreeHuggerwesley__: did you have the glxgears window maximized all the time? 'cos I see markedly different rates18:39
DeadTreeHuggerfigures like 601.199 FPS wld be good if you are running in maximized mode18:39
DeadTreeHuggerfigures like 94.920 FPS wld be similar to mine18:39
wesley__no not all the time18:39
DeadTreeHuggerk... well, i think yours and mine are about the same...18:40
wesley__but desktop effects runs fine18:40
DeadTreeHuggerdesktop effects will run on both our machines... but our tolerance levels may be different ;)18:40
wesley__yeah can be, it can always better, but how about the bug18:41
DeadTreeHuggerit's not a bug per se...18:41
DeadTreeHuggerIntel made some huge changes to their memory management model in their drivers... it's obviously not mature yet18:41
DeadTreeHuggerit's just something that we have to wait for Intel to improve on over time18:42
DeadTreeHuggerhopefully it won't take more than a year18:43
wesley__but in overal it seems okay18:43
DeadTreeHuggeranother possible reason is that i'm running 64-bit18:45
DeadTreeHuggeri've heard some (unconfirmed) rumors that 64-bit drivers are not on par with 32-bit...18:45
DeadTreeHuggerhaven't been able to do an A/B test just yet18:45
wesley__i am running to 64bit18:45
DeadTreeHuggerwelllll............ :)18:45
wesley__but on 32 bit is not better i believe18:46
DeadTreeHuggerthen i think i just have higher expectations on performance than you do :)18:46
wesley__i think so but 64bit is faster then 32 bit18:47
DeadTreeHuggernot necessarily... 64-bit just allows you to use more memory than 32-bit18:47
DeadTreeHuggerso that you can run more applications at the same time w/o a performance hit18:47
DeadTreeHuggerbut at the same time, overheads are higher... so if you run just 1-2 applications, it may actually be slower18:48
wesley__i haved read than 32 bit is on 64 bit machines slower then it is on 32 bit18:49
DeadTreeHuggermaybe, but i don't think it's a big difference... IMHO, i just think that you won't be maximizing the potential of your hardware, that's all18:50
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DeadTreeHuggeri use my laptop for Java development, which is very memory hungry, so i need as much as i can get18:51
ibuffyhow to remove ubuntu-desktop and retain kubuntu?18:51
DeadTreeHuggerrunning 64-bit is the only way i can use (on K/ubuntu) the full 4GB RAM that i've plugged into my laptop18:52
DeadTreeHuggeribuffy: try this? http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde18:53
donavananyone with a working dual head xorg.conf on KDE with ATI Radeon X1300/X155018:53
wesley__i only have 2 gb memory18:56
cannonhey guys, is there a screen capture app?18:56
wesley__yes ksnapshot18:56
wesley__but taskbar looks much better then in kde4.118:57
DeadTreeHuggeryeah, the taskbar borders are defined much more cleanly now18:58
stoyanздрасти18:58
stoyanНякой да говори български18:58
stoyan????18:58
LjL!ru | stoyan18:59
ubottustoyan: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:59
stoyanспасиба18:59
wesley__maby the kde3 hardcore users will say the same19:00
wesley__but its just the beta19:03
cannonhow do I check for updates?19:04
wesley__sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:05
isaacj87cannon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:05
wesley__but first better run sudo apt-get update19:05
cannonwhats the gui app for it isaacj87?19:06
wesley__adept or synaptic19:06
boggystudioshow do I disable the login sound for kde 4.1?19:07
ibuffythanks DeadTreeHugger, i was thinking that the psychocats materials wasn't being maintained19:07
DeadTreeHuggeribuffy: well, it did specifically mention "intrepid"... which is as updated as anybody can hope for :)19:08
papanabend19:08
brunitoola19:09
boggystudiosI can't seem to find that setting anywhere19:09
papajemand da der mir helfen kann?wo meld eich mich als admin an bei kubu8.1019:09
isaacj87boggystudios: go into "System Settings" and then to "Notifications"19:09
brunito#es19:09
brunito!es19:09
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:09
cannonhey guys, how can I increase the font size after just installing 8.10?19:09
cannonlike for menu's and stuff ... I can't read the text at all in adept19:10
ibuffyDeadTreeHugger: right, it's definitely updated, but i thought that had stopped maintaining the site a few versions ago19:10
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isaacj87boggystudios: click the drop down menu and choose "KDE System Notifications" you'll find it there19:10
wesley__papa je kan sudo gebruiken19:10
wesley__papa admin is sudo19:11
isaacj87cannon: go into System Settings-> Appearance->Fonts19:11
isaacj87cannon: adjust them there19:11
rodya_Might anyone be able to help me? I'm trying to figure out if you all have found a workaround for firefox 3's ugly form widgets in kde419:11
boggystudiosisaacj87: thanks man, that sound was getting on my nerves19:12
cannonthanks for the response isaacj87, they are all showing as 9, but even that is waaay to small for me to read?19:12
isaacj87boggystudios: no prob :)19:12
rodya_I've used *u*buntu for over a year, but am just getting acquainted with kde4... so far it's amazing aside from this issue19:13
dimitri_hi, i have my pc plugged into my LCD TV's HDMI port, there is a picture, but its not 100% how would i fix the screen size?19:13
dimitri_i am guessing i have to use xrandr?19:13
cannonisaacj87: I have adjusted them all to 16, but I still cannot read text in adept installer19:14
isaacj87cannon: Hmm, my guess is you've only changed the fonts locally. You're going to have to run System Settings as root to adjust the system fonts19:16
isaacj87cannon: open up Konsole and type: kdesudo /usr/bin/systemsettings19:16
cannonhow do I do that?19:16
cannonk19:16
rodya_so no dice on firefox? do you all use konqueror for browsing?19:17
isaacj87cannon: When it opens, go back to Appearance->Fonts and try changing them there19:17
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DeadTreeHuggerrodya_: firefox looks ugly over here as well... for that matter, so do the KDE3 apps...19:21
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rodya_so this is still a bug on kde i take it19:21
DeadTreeHuggerrodya_: welll... i wouldn't call it a high priority bug...19:22
isaacj87rodya_: only viable solution http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/19:22
DeadTreeHuggerretro-fitting GTK to look like KDE is kinda pointless... it's hard to achieve 100% parity19:23
rodya_sigh... yeah me neither, I'd be happy with konqueror if it opened gmail19:23
rodya_but I can't make that happen19:23
rodya_not even with browser spoofing19:24
rodrigointernet explorer .. im linux ...19:24
DeadTreeHuggercan't see how konqueror can achieve feature parity with firefox / safari in the near term...19:24
isaacj87DeadTreeHugger: Me neither, but it has come a long ways19:25
rodya_hm, it seems it's either gnome again, or opera on kde19:25
wesley__Firefox isnt intergrated konqueror is intergrated19:26
DeadTreeHuggerin some ways, konqueror's better than any of its competition... i love the view profiles feature...19:26
isaacj87rodya_: was the link not useful? It does make Firefox look decent19:26
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contrastGreets, everyone...19:27
contrastStill no fix for Flash in Konqueror? I was just googling a bit and couldn't find anything.19:27
wesley__i did watch porn in it with flash sdo it should work19:28
contrasthmm... it still doesn't work here.19:28
wesley__did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras19:29
contrastyep19:29
wesley__does it work in firefox ?19:30
contrastyep... and it *is* loading in konqueror - right-clicking on where a video should be on youtube brings up the Flash context menu.19:30
wesley__ow strange19:30
contrastbut there's just blank white space.19:30
contrastwesley__: you sure the video you were watching was flash-embedded?19:31
Daskreech2yeah that happens to me too but randomly it works in Konqueror19:31
contrastblarg19:32
Daskreech2I dunno. They are using some part of the Flash API that the mix of linux and Konqueror don't like19:32
wesley__contrast believe so but flash sometimes does strange19:32
contrastbooyah - refreshed a few times and the video loaded19:32
voicuHi, how do i stop the kernel from loading a module at boot time?19:33
wesley__restart konq19:33
Daskreech2contrast: Does the context menu have a Play option on it?19:33
Daskreech2!blacklist19:33
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »19:33
DeadTreeHuggerisaacj87: ugh... after installing the kde4 firefox theme, firefox doesn't share KDE's font settings anymore19:34
contrastDaskreech2: no - it's just the generic flash menu you get whenever you right-click on any flash item.19:34
isaacj87DeadTreeHugger: yeah, the only problem with it.19:34
DeadTreeHuggern that's more important to me than widget alignments...19:34
contrastDeadTreeHugger: use qtcurve :)19:34
Daskreech2contrast: Right when mine stop loading I don't get a play option in the context menu anymore19:34
voicudaskreech2: i've tried the blacklist thing, it doesn't work. i'm using kubuntu 8.10 if it matters19:35
contrastah well... at least wireless appears to be working better under intrepid19:35
DeadTreeHuggercontrast: qtcurve? sorry, I don't get you...19:36
contrast!info qtcurve19:36
ubottuqtcurve (source: kde-style-qtcurve): This is a set of widget styles for KDE3 and Gtk2 based apps. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.59.3-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 19 kB, installed size 48 kB19:36
contrast*and* kde4 (could someone update that info? :D )19:37
voicudaskreech2: can the file in /etc/modprobe.d have any name? does modprobe check all files in there?19:37
DeadTreeHuggeralright... will give that a try... just install qtcurve? any additional setup to be done?19:37
Daskreech2not that I know of19:37
contrastDeadTreeHugger: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-qtcurve kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig kde-style-qtcurve19:38
Daskreech2contrast: That's from the package itself, Email the maintainer19:38
voicualso, is it complicated to setup my computer to be a wifi hotspot?19:38
contrastDaskreech2: ahh, ok19:38
master_how can I redo dhcp on my ethernet cable?  I have only wireless..19:38
contrastDeadTreeHugger: then, of course, just change the styles for KDE apps and Gtk apps in System Settings. you may also want to install qt3-qtconfig so you can change the style for kde3 apps to it as well.19:39
contrastQtCurve: Best widget theme everrrr19:39
DeadTreeHuggercontrast: thanks :)19:40
master_I guess I have to reboot... just to get my stupid networking to work...19:40
contrastnp19:40
contrastmaster_: erm, probably not19:40
eihnatjust installed kubuntu. how do i start compiz? i.e. wanna have cube etc.19:40
Daskreech2master_: No you don't19:40
Daskreech2eihnat: INstall KDE 4.2!!!19:40
contrastDaskreech2: -_~19:40
contrast4.2 isn't ready for everyday use by any stretch19:41
eihnatcontrast: so what would be recomendations then?19:41
Daskreech2contrast: You have been running it?19:41
contrasteihnat: sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported compizconfig-settings-manager fusion-icon compiz-kde19:42
eihnatcontrast: sec19:42
contrastDaskreech2: yep, was just playing with it yesterday. it's nice, but i'd say there's still good reason for it being labeled alpha. :)19:42
Daskreech2Beta19:42
contrastahh... well, feels like an alpha to me. lol19:43
Daskreech2Well Compiz is beta as well19:43
contrastthe new changes are great though. 4.2 has me psyched for jaunty19:43
contrasttrue19:43
Daskreech2and we get bug reports for KDE 4,2 to make it better on launch19:43
squid0hi. how do I install google gadgest on 4.2 beta?19:43
contrastit pretty much never crashes for me though, and this is on several different systems19:44
Daskreech2squid0: Get the file and on the add wdgets dialog click install new widgets then browse to the file19:44
contrastcompiz, i mean19:44
squid0Daskreech2: ok.19:44
Daskreech2I've had 4.2 crash on my a few times all the same reason and I know why it does it19:44
Daskreech2Which is close to the same thing :)19:44
Daskreech2Esp since I was playing around with it19:44
contrasthmm, didn't know that... can you install google gadgets as plasmoids in 4.1 as well?19:45
Daskreech2No 4.219:45
squid0Daskreech2: it just offers me to add the gadget to my webpage, not to download it.19:45
Daskreech2As well as Superkaramba Widgets yahoo widgets Apple applets and plasmoids of course19:45
squid0am I doing something wrong?19:45
eihnatcontrast: did that. changed settings in compizconfig settings manager. nothing. no cube. any ideas?19:45
contrastawesome19:46
Daskreech2Hmm Not sure. May want to jump into #plasma to get more detailed instructions19:46
DeadTreeHuggeractually, i'm pretty happy with 4.2... sure, panel crashed once, kopete's crashed twice n kde bluetooth daemon crashed every single time I logged on but in general, I can really see where this is going, and I like the direction :)19:46
squid0ok19:46
contrasteihnat: Alt+F2 -> fusion-icon19:46
Daskreech2contrast: Should be fun when we get Gnome applets as well X-D19:46
contrastDaskreech2: is that coming?19:46
DeadTreeHuggerI can also see the "All effect" tab in Systems Settings becoming a usability nightmare though :)19:46
eihnatcontrast: aaaah, that's what i've been missing. :)19:47
contrastyeah, there were a few settings dialogs i assume they'll be cleaning up before release19:47
eihnatcontrast: thanx19:47
Daskreech2contrast: I can't imagine it's not the packages for Gnome applets for Gnome 3.0 currently are proposed to be written in JS so it should be trivial to get them working in KDE19:47
contrasteihnat: np19:47
Daskreech2DeadTreeHugger: What made Kopete crash? I want to replicate19:48
contrastDaskreech2: interesting. (i thought you were referring to screenlets/Universal Applets - any word on those?)19:48
Daskreech2contrast: Well I'm talking about Gnome 3.0 which we of course have to wait for before we can say anything :)19:48
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: sorry, I can't really say, 'cos I was just switching windows around n it suddenly disappeared19:49
Daskreech2I don't think that any of the screenlets in Gnome right now are managed code19:49
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: is there anywhere where I can find a dump file?19:49
Daskreech2DeadTreeHugger: ahmm If you have debug turned on for kopete I think so19:49
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: i just opened Kopete thorugh the menu so I don't think so...19:50
bobesponjahow are 4.2b1 packages?19:50
bobesponjaanyone tried thme?19:50
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: I can do that... but where do i post the dump info?19:50
bobesponjathem*19:50
DeadTreeHuggerone thing i don't like about the new notifications plasmoid, it'll reset whatever else you're doing on the panel19:51
contrastDaskreech2: were you able to install amarok-nightly alongside kde-nightly? i got package errors when i tried (same file in multiple packages)19:51
Daskreech2DeadTreeHugger: Reset?19:51
Daskreech2I haven't been playing with Amarok sadly19:52
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: for e.g., if I open the K menu n I'm browsing through the menu... if a new kopete mesg comes in, the notification plasmoid will pop-up n cause the K menu to close...19:52
* contrast finds the Intrepid Firefox package's dependencies absolutely ridiculous.19:53
Daskreech2DeadTreeHugger: I'll have to try that19:54
comeditIf i want to import all data out of kontact from an 8.04 kubuntu and import it in a other install 8.10 what should I do19:54
Daskreech2contrast: It's a known bug marked as WontFix by the packagers cause it seems it our damn fault for using KDE19:54
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: I'm pretty sure you can simulate it...19:54
contrastpfft. eff that.19:55
DeadTreeHuggerDaskreech2: just now, my girlfriend decided to spam me with a flurry of about 50-60 instant messages19:55
contrasti think Mark was talking about better Firefox integration with KDE come Jaunty. we'll see.19:55
DeadTreeHuggeri couldn't do a single darned thing on my desktop throughout that time!19:55
=== Daskreech2 is now known as DaskReech
DaskReechDeadTreeHugger: I seriously need a Girlfriend like that19:56
contrastanyone else using Lancelot?19:56
DaskReechcontrast: Find me a link for that19:56
contrastDaskReech: what Mark said?19:57
contrastor lanelot?19:57
comeditno one an answer on my kontact question ?19:57
DaskReechcontrast: Mark said19:58
DaskReechcomedit: it should upgrade by itself If you are worried make a back up of your .kde directory19:58
contrastcomedit: i know kaddressbook and akregator have export options (File -> Export something or another). not sure about the other components of Kontact - but afaik, there's no way to quickly export and import everything from Kontact, you have to do it app by app19:59
comeditit is on a diffrent install19:59
comeditok thanks19:59
contrastnp19:59
DeadTreeHuggerDaskReech: heh... well, if not for anything better, she made me realize that it's probably better for the notification plasmoid to take up less vertical space :)20:00
comeditnext question in KDE 4.1 (kubuntu 8.10) I have lost all nice functions like ( run as root, open as root) in dolphin and the menus i could not find how to revive this20:00
comeditis this gone for good20:01
DaskReechDeadTreeHugger: I think what you need is a collapse hint20:02
DaskReechDeadTreeHugger: You can click and hide them though20:02
axel_Hello! How to batch-rename files (incl. subfolders)? e.g. *.svg.gz -> *.svgz?20:04
DeadTreeHuggerI find that the responsiveness of clicking on the notifications to be a tad iffy...20:04
voicuis anyone else having problems configuring their wired device with  knetworkmanager?20:05
DeadTreeHuggerfor e.g., if I click on "View" for an incoming message notification, the conversation window doesn't always get promoted to the top of the window stack20:05
DaskReechaxel_: Krename ?20:05
DeadTreeHuggernot very consistent20:05
DaskReechDeadTreeHugger: Try ctrl+Shift+I :)20:05
voicui go in the menu and at new connection when i press on eth0 nothing happens20:06
axel_And my second question would be: How to batch-convert SVG-/ SVGZ-files into bitmaps (PNG preferred)? Aganin the subfolders should be respected.20:06
contrasti thought kde3/4 konqueror and dolphin service menus were pretty much interchangeable - i.e., you can just drop the old service menus from kde3 into /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus. am i wrong on this?20:06
axel_DaskReech:20:06
axel_DaskReech: OK. I'll check.20:06
voicui open "edit connections" and create a wired connection but it doesn't work20:06
DaskReechcontrast: Yes you are20:06
DeadTreeHuggerDaskReech: alright, will do... thanks!20:07
contrastDaskReech: hrmm... so is there another solution, e.g., just changing a line or two in the old service menu files, or do they pretty much need to be completely rewritten?20:07
DaskReechcontrast: You add two lines i think20:08
DaskReechIt's really easy20:08
dayelhol alguien es latino20:08
contrastDaskReech: cool. could you point me to where i might find how to do that?20:08
DaskReech!es20:08
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:08
voicupls, any ideas why knetworkmanager doesn't configure my ethernet correctly? eth0 appears in the menu but nothing happens when i try to add a connection to it20:11
contrastvoicu: you're right-clicking knetworkmanager -> New connection -> eth0 and nothing's coming up?20:13
axel_DaskReech: Thanks al lot!!!! Krename works well for my purposes!20:14
voicucontrast: yes. i tried making a new connection by going at "edit connection" but the settings are not assigned to eth0 (according to ifconfig)20:14
DaskReechcontrast: Try just comparing a native KDE3 one with a KDE4 one. I think you need to add like two headers20:14
voicucontrast: manually configuring the card works20:14
DaskReechaxel_: It's a handy tool20:14
=== kalorin` is now known as kalorin^
contrasti've had some issues with knm in intrepid, usually solvable by quitting knm, (re)moving ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc, then restarting knm. you might give that a shot.20:14
=== kalorin^ is now known as kalorin-
contrastDaskReech: doh. too obvious. heh, thanks.20:14
contrastvoicu: ^20:15
voicucontrast: it's a fresh install of intrepid and it hasn't worked from the beginning20:15
axel_How to batch-convert SVG-/ SVGZ-Files into bitmaps?20:15
contrasttoo bad the version of krename in the repos is the old kde3 version, crippling some of its functionality20:15
untiledhi, kopete crashed so created a file called kopete.kcrash. anyone know how to report a bug with this file?20:16
DaskReechuntiled: Attach it to the bugreport?20:16
voicuthere should be a menu option in About or someting20:17
contrastvoicu: hmm... sorry, man. i'm not sure. maybe quit knm, sudo modprobe -r <your eth module> && sudo modprobe <your eth module> && sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart20:17
voicuno, Help @ untiled20:17
digitalnormto what channel should a newbie go to ask questions?20:17
contrastdigitalnorm: newbies are welcome here. :)20:17
digitalnormnice20:17
digitalnormi wanna run ntfs-3g but it won't launch20:18
DaskReechdigitalnorm: Questions about what?20:18
contrast!paste20:18
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:18
voicucontrast: ok, will try that20:18
DaskReechdigitalnorm: Ha ha What are you expecting to launch ?20:18
digitalnormi dunno20:18
slicslakwhere do i make it so that my user logs in auto on boot?20:18
contrastdigitalnorm: use that to paste the output from ntfs-3g when you try to run it from the terminal (K Menu -> System -> Konsole)20:18
contrastohh, err. scratch that. heh20:19
DaskReechdigitalnorm: It's not a program20:19
contrastwell, i'm off. peace, y'all.20:19
DaskReechdigitalnorm: What are you using it for?20:21
digitalnormdask:i installed ubuntu very gungho like and now am unable to see any remnants of my windows except an ntfs partition i can see with gparted.  i dont know how to look at it, if my win stuff is gone etc20:23
jonahhey guys i wanted to put a folder on share so i can get to it with my mac through the router. i righted clicked the folder i wanted to share, clicked on the share tab and pressed configure file sharing but i just get a load of errors, does anyone know how to get this to work right?20:25
jonahfindServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found20:25
digitalnormalso, howto launch destbar applet?20:25
digitalnorm*deskbar20:26
jonahi've been into adept and also installed the samba package by the way.20:26
HappySmileManI can't make an MSN account on Kopete in 4.2?20:27
jonahwhy is kde so bad with file sharing when in gnome you can just do it with a few clicks?20:27
sigma_is the 4.2 beta alot of an improvement on the 4.1.x series? ie - is it worth the download?20:29
SSJ_GZsigma_: yes; no one can answer that but you.20:30
jonahError: "/tmp/kde-jonah" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.20:30
sigma_well i mean generally, is it really as buggy as people say?, just wondering if it is worth the download20:31
jonahhello can anyone please help me to do a file share in kde so i can copy a file to my mac. i can't copy it to usb stick or external drive as it's over 4gb and dophin says the file is too large so i figured if i shared it i could download it on the mac20:33
jonahcan anyone help please20:33
DaskReechsigma_: It's more buggy than a relelase after a bunch of bug fixes of course but it has a lot of new features that ease up the pain20:33
DaskReech>_>20:33
DaskReech<_<20:33
DaskReechPlus I'm asking Kmail to marry me20:33
milkааа! Пингвины, выручайте!20:34
DaskReechjonah: install ssh and pull it across sftp20:34
DaskReech!ru20:34
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:34
milkhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup20:35
sd32!songbird20:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about songbird20:35
milkблин20:35
milkгде русские все?20:36
jonahDaskReech: is that simple to do?20:36
sd32!ru20:36
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:36
DaskReechjonah: Yes on both sides20:36
DaskReech!info songbird20:36
ubottuPackage songbird does not exist in intrepid20:36
DaskReechhi milk20:37
milkHello!:)20:38
unix_how can i upgrade my apt-get?20:39
milkis there somebody from Russia?20:40
unix_how can i upgrade my apt-get?20:40
wesley__so i wonder if skype will work20:41
Daisuke_Idounix_: how can you upgrade *via* apt-get?20:42
unix_no i meant updating20:43
Daisuke_Idobecause as far as i know, there haven't been any updates to apt-get itself in a while20:43
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get update20:43
unix_ok20:43
Daisuke_Idowill update your package cache20:43
unix_thanks20:43
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome20:43
milkhow caaan I install adept or synaptic?20:44
unix_when i minimize a window i can see them on the panel....please help20:44
unix_i cant**20:44
Daisuke_Idomilk: well, if you're using kde, you already have adept, but try 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'20:45
Daisuke_Idowithout the '' of course20:45
Daisuke_Idounix_: that's one i can't really help with, i don't use kde anymore :(20:45
DaskReechmilk: Do you need help?20:45
cuzntwhat to use to partition?20:48
cuznt!partition20:49
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QTParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap20:49
tony_buna20:49
MarcoBXBRO1what is the max ram you can add to kubuntu OS20:50
geniiA lot20:51
smitthi20:51
edi_99Hi guys, how do I get my kdebluetooth running?20:51
sd32!bluetooth20:52
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup20:52
geniiMarcoBXBRO1: 64 bit means 16 exabytes of ram is possible20:52
=== vinces1979 is now known as allinsane
DaskReechMarcoBXBRO1: More than you can buy20:56
voicucan i just delete a kernel module from the drive?20:57
voicuwhere are they stored?20:57
voicuifound something in /sys/module20:57
voicuis that it?20:57
eihnat_ups. my pidgin dissapeared. :D20:57
wesley__so when will skype release a new skype ?20:58
sd32man... flash 10 is messed up on stickam in linux20:58
DaskReechvoicu: If you don't need it then yes20:59
voicudaskreech: so i just delete the module in /sys/module?21:00
DaskReechvoicu: Or move it somewhere else21:00
voicuyeah, good idea :21:00
voicu* :P21:00
voicuno, bad idea21:01
voicui mean i just saw that the corresponding directory doesn't appear if the module is unloaded21:02
voicuthat's just a runtime thing there21:02
dumitruhow to make my kde application fonts not to look blurry on Ubuntu 8.10 (gnome)?21:09
DaskReechfont smoothing21:10
smitthello21:12
smittcan i ask any questions here?21:12
sd32!hello21:12
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:12
sd32!ask21:13
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:13
DaskReechsmitt: No you can ask support related questions21:13
DaskReechWe may allow tricking someone to propose marriage in front of 300 people ;)21:13
smittokay21:14
smittthe first question21:14
smittif i use kebenru 8.04 - how long it will be actual operating system?21:14
DaskReechsmitt: as long as it's operating21:15
smitti meant new technologies like kde421:15
smittif i dont have any fast internet speed21:15
DaskReechKubuntu 8.04 Is what it is. It won't change21:16
sd32kubuntu 8.04 will be supported until 10/200921:16
smitti heard 8.04 short peroad of support is it very bad for me?21:16
smittaha21:16
smittoct 2009?21:17
sd32yes21:17
smitthmmm21:17
smitti dont have much time)21:17
sd32little less the a   year21:17
smittand the next question21:18
smitt(sorry for defective eng i am russian and in third time on english)21:18
sd32your doing great21:19
smittmy teacher in high school thinks different? apple teacher))21:19
smittapple mac teacher)21:19
smittok 2nd question)21:19
smittcan i use gcc or any else to comptute and compile my c and c++ code?21:20
smittwhat we have on kubuntu 80421:21
smitt?21:21
DaskReechПривет21:21
sd32do you know theres a russian support channel?21:21
eihnat_!ru21:21
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke21:21
smittno21:21
DaskReechsmitt: Yes install build-essential21:21
smitti dont know21:21
smittbut21:22
smittnow i//21:22
smittcool21:22
smittwhat a sec21:22
smittemmm... if i russian i need to go to ru channel?21:22
smitti whant to be here21:23
smittfor now21:23
smitti want*21:23
DaskReechsmitt: no you can stay here21:23
HappySmileManYou don't have to, but it might be easier to discuss in your native language, your english seems fairly good though so might as well stay21:23
eihnat_smitt: u can stay here. it's just that it can be easier for you to ask and understand in ur language21:23
DaskReechas long as you speak english Which you are doing fine so far21:23
wesley__i am dutch and i am not getting any support in kubuntu-nl21:24
smitthappysmile for you - i want discus my problems with true developers of linux system i use, any russian systems i will discuss on ru channels21:25
* DaskReech comforts wesley__21:25
DaskReech3rd question!21:26
wesley__so i always just go to this channel21:27
smittwhy some DVD compact disks written by windows are not readeble on my kebentu system, bu i can read it on other linus - for example asp linux 12 carbon21:27
smitt?21:27
smittthis was the third21:28
cuznthow do i change permissions for /media/disk-2 on terminal please21:28
smittthid21:28
DaskReech!dvd21:28
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:28
eihnat_cuznt: chmod command21:28
cuznt!chmod21:29
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview21:29
smittpeople, if you tell me - i understand it on 70%, if i will read any documentation on tech style eng - it just very hard for me21:29
DaskReechcuznt: Set your umask option in the mount command21:29
smittoh it automatic mounts21:29
DaskReechsmitt: Read and ask any further questions you like :)21:29
smittnot like lfs or any half automatic desktop systems21:30
smittok i will learn how i can change the dvd mount modes21:31
DaskReechsmitt: No sorry that part was not for you that was for cuznt21:31
DaskReech!dvd | smitt This is for you21:31
ubottusmitt This is for you: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:31
smitt4th Q - why i cant use any ru symbols in some programs ang i cant see any errors - just incorrect work of programs21:32
smitt?21:32
smitti save links about dvd21:32
DaskReechMight be your keyboard :-/ I'm not sure21:32
wesley__http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3664/schermafdruk1eg2.png look guys21:32
DaskReechkcharselect should allow you to put inrussian Chars in any program21:33
smitt5th Q - png or jpeg?21:33
DaskReechwesley__: Fun with editors21:33
DaskReechsmitt: What are you using it for?21:34
HappySmileManPNG for lossless, Jpeg for small, no real answer to that smitt21:34
smittfor photos of me and my girl21:34
smitti whant for quality21:35
HappySmileManFor quality PNG is better21:35
smittmy disk is big and i have dvd recorder, space is not a problem21:35
smittok thank you21:35
smittpng21:35
smitt6th - what OS was on that picture?21:36
smittpic by wasley21:36
HappySmileManWhich picture?21:36
smittwaseley's pic21:36
HappySmileManOh that's Kubuntu 8.10 with the Beta of KDE4.2 AFAIK21:36
smittwith beta?21:36
wesley__smit Windows Vista21:36
smitthmmm21:36
smittno21:37
smitti saw vista21:37
wesley__With grub editor edited the entry21:37
smittit is different21:37
smittoh21:37
smittwhat i stuppid21:37
smittyea)21:37
smittok21:37
smitt81021:37
DaskReechsmitt: When you install Linux and WIndows on the same drive you get a menu to choose. He edited his menu21:37
smittbeautifull system i sad)21:37
smittok i use only linux systems21:38
smittwhat kde4's version is more stable?21:39
wesley__DaskReech if apple just did make itunes for Linux i wouldnt need windows21:39
smittwhat is itunes?21:39
DaskReechsmitt: KDE3 would be more stable I think21:39
smittsmokes**21:40
DaskReechwesley__: Amarok?21:40
wesley__to manage music on you ipod/iphone21:40
smittiphone.. i saw it, cool but very expensive21:40
smittfor me)21:40
wesley__DaskReech i have it for to manage music on my iphone, i havent found a easy way to put music on it from within linux21:40
DaskReechwesley__: Wait like 2 months I think that you will have things popping up21:41
smitti have amarok 1.4.9.1 - i think it is very good solution for music (audio) managment21:42
smittam i right?21:42
wesley__DaskReech i hope so, but even when i jailbreak him it wont get easy21:42
DaskReechYes as long as it does what you want to do21:42
DaskReechI can't tink of what amarok doesn't do though21:43
sd32dosent play midi files21:43
DaskReechMine does21:44
smittin my city and my country very small part of people use linux, i dont know any other people who use linux...21:44
wesley__DaskReech it is only the manage part, you know apple has a different system for music playing21:44
DaskReechHmm21:45
DaskReech?21:45
DaskReechsmitt: Give out CDS :)21:45
smittcan noatun play midi?21:45
smittCDS? what is it?21:45
wesley__You have to sycn it, not like other players drag and drop, no need to sycn it with itunes21:45
wesley__but i just sycn my complete music collection so i dont need to login for awhile in Windows21:47
DaskReechLinux CDs21:47
smittitunes... i dont know for all 100%, but i think it is like mp3 player with internet connection to download any new media21:47
gkffjckwhy do all the directories in linux need executable permissions to be read.21:47
smitti just dont know what is it)21:47
smitti mean itunes)21:48
DaskReechgkffjck: They need read permissions to be read21:48
wesley__smit yes that what it is, and to manage you ipod/iphone21:48
DaskReechThey need executable permissions to execute21:48
hadsAs a long shot, is anyone running the 4.2 beta packages under the Gnome desktop environment? When doing so Kontact/KMail don't have window decorations.21:48
sd32DaskReech: how did you get amarok to play midi files?21:48
DaskReechsmitt: It is a Media player /manager which has a store21:49
DaskReechhads: interesting using metacity ?21:49
DaskReechsd32: I don't remember it's been years now :)21:49
hadsDaskReech: Yeah, using either metacity or compiz. Konqueror has decorations but Kmail or Kontact don't. I'm just tring to narrow it down.21:50
gkffjckno, if a directory doens't have exe perms you get an io error... I was just wondering why?21:50
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sd32DaskReech: i had to run Timidity21:50
DaskReechhads: Does Kwin run?21:50
wesley__I could better marry with my notebook XD21:51
DaskReechgkffjck: execute on a directory means that you cannot enter it. If you take it off yo ucan see what's inside the directory but you can't enter it21:51
DaskReechsd32: check kde-apps.org21:52
hadsDaskReech: Just trying that actually :) kwin --replace runs fine and decorates everything except Kontact.21:52
hadsOf course it works fine under KDE.21:53
sd32DaskReech: those are third party aps as well21:53
DaskReechhads: Ok would you like to join #kontact and ask?21:53
DaskReechsd32: Yeah I had to tweak it but it works21:53
hadsDaskReech: Sure21:53
smittif i what any new visual styles for my kde 3.5 what can i do?21:54
wesley__so i anm configuring kmail21:55
DaskReechsmitt: www.kde-look.org21:55
smittjabber or icq? what is more usefull?21:55
sd32DaskReech: oh it depends on the engine21:55
smittdask thanks21:55
DaskReechsmitt: Depends on where your friends are :)21:56
DaskReechI like ICQ21:56
wesley__what is sendmail ?21:57
smittif i use jabber i can use icq translators and dont need to update my client program21:57
smitti chose jabber21:57
DaskReechwesley__: It allows you to sendmail21:57
DaskReechsmitt: Chose it in what?21:58
smittheh linux world is real alternative) i like it21:58
wesley__i have gmail, so sendmail it something like gmail21:58
smittwho is hackers?21:58
DaskReechwesley__: Yeah sure :)21:59
wesley__going google on it21:59
smittor they are bad or good i cant understand...22:01
DaskReechsmitt: hackers are people who like to code22:03
DaskReechThey can code for bad or good22:03
DaskReech In linux the vast vast vast numbers are more good than bad22:03
sd32DaskReech: the amarok people say no to midi22:05
sd32but it was the easy way out22:05
smittok i understand, but they are bring any danger in my heart22:05
DaskReechsmitt: crackers are bad. hackers are ok ;-)22:06
DaskReechcrackers try to break systems22:06
smittok, i download amarok visual style, new style but it in tar gz format and i dont know what i need to do to install it22:06
smittwhy crackers do it?22:07
NallemanHi, i have messed up the panel objects in 4.1. Is there a way to get it back to default?22:08
smittwhere i need to install amarok visual style?22:08
smitti need path22:08
DaskReechsmitt: Cause they want to22:08
DaskReechsmitt: It should have  a file README in it22:08
DaskReechread the README22:08
smittbut my computer hasnt any secret developments or any new technologies22:09
smittno the readme files are not here22:09
smittno in this pack22:10
HappySmileManIf they're breaking into computers it's usually to bot people or make a profit somehow22:10
HappySmileManIf you use a credit card online then it's worthwhile for someone to hack your computer and install a trojan22:10
smittonly css file and subfolder22:10
HappySmileManEven if not, they could use it to send spam22:10
sd32DaskReech: but the midi  question livened up the #amarok channel..lol22:11
DaskReechsd32: heehee :-)22:11
smittlinux systems better in deffensive versus cracker attacks?22:11
smittdask thaks nubmer 222:12
DaskReechsmitt: Can be22:12
HappySmileManYeha they're generally safer, and they get updates much more quickly than Windows systems, so if someone does figure out how to break into it it usually gets fixed quickly (as long as you update regularly)22:13
DaskReechsmitt: certainly much easier to protect against people cracking in22:13
smitthmm22:14
smittwindows - is trash can where viruses are grow and they population are big, they leave leave leave and system dying)22:15
smittdask they are not answering me22:16
smittbut talks(22:16
DaskReechha ha :)22:16
smitti mean amarok chanel22:16
smitt))22:16
DaskReechask sd32 to poke them with something rousing :022:16
smittnot viruses)))22:16
sd32lol22:16
smittviruses are talks and i heard it)22:16
smitton the night22:17
DaskReechsmitt: Restore and Trash can harbour viruses on Windows22:18
smitti think they dont know amarok visual style instalation path, people from #amarok22:19
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smittdont answer for me...22:19
smittok22:19
smitti need windows22:19
DaskReechsmitt: probably ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok22:19
smittfor my new viruses from internet22:19
DaskReechsmitt: have fun22:19
jabrroawindows sucks22:20
smitti like viruses to grow22:20
smittgrow and prosper22:20
jabrroawtf is with this guy?22:20
smittand eat)22:20
jabrroaand get arrested22:20
smittjust kidding)22:20
jabrroaviruses are nothing to play with...22:20
sd32its easy to track ips on irc22:20
jabrroaalready got his hehe22:21
jabrroai aint even the law (yet)22:21
smittdask22:21
DaskReechyes?22:21
jabrroacentury tele comunications22:21
smittwhy ark's drug&drop are incorrect works22:21
sd32thats why you dont want tot make people angry here..:)22:22
smitterrors22:22
smittwhen i drug any22:22
jabrroayes :)22:22
jabrroadrag*22:22
smittoh)22:22
smittdrug i mean22:22
smittou22:22
jabrroawtf?22:22
smittdrag)22:22
smittsorry22:22
jabrroaDRAG22:22
jabrroalol22:22
sd32!punctuation22:22
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:22
smittgrug - is kokain and others22:22
smittok thanks22:23
smitti try it22:23
smitt_dask22:26
cuzntwhen i partition my spare hd the one i want to use for BOTH systems would work as a ntfs   a fat32 ex2 ex3 ??22:26
smitt_what about fix drag&drop in Ark program? do u know anithing?22:26
DaskReechsmitt_: Yeah Drag and drop is messed up in KDE4 for ark22:26
DaskReechHold on22:26
DaskReechcuznt: NTFS or Fat3222:27
smitt_ntfs - is big error system22:27
DaskReechsmitt_: nope still seems broken22:27
cuzntso fat32 is the better choice?22:28
smitt_dask can i fix it manualy?22:28
smitt_or i need any other channel?22:28
DaskReechsmitt_: Not likely :(22:28
smitt_any lowsize ark analogs?22:29
DaskReechcuznt: as long as you don't have huge files22:29
smitt_to download now (i just have dialup only)22:29
DaskReechsmitt_: it works just not with Drag and drop :-(22:29
cuzntits for music sharing22:29
cuzntand video22:29
cuzntso yes22:29
cuznt11g to save at first22:29
DaskReechcuznt: anything above 3 GB?22:29
DaskReechany one file larger than 3GBs?22:30
cuzntas i just said to make a video it takes 11g @ first22:30
smitt_dask22:30
smitt_it works but why ark show error messege "tar: no file"22:31
smitt_dask22:37
smitt_give me apt-get install style commands for update my kde3 functioanlity22:37
smitt_thanks22:37
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DaskReechsmitt_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade22:40
smitt_dask that is all?)22:43
DaskReechsmitt_: yes22:43
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achiteslt tt22:48
achitey a t'il qquelqu'un qui peut m'éxliqué comment configurer ma webcam22:49
smitt_i dont understand it22:49
DaskReech!webcam22:50
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras22:50
DaskReechachite: Which language?22:50
achitefrench22:51
DaskReech!fr22:52
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr22:52
DaskReechHmm didn't pick that up22:52
smitt_dask22:54
smitt_i have a questions22:54
ActionParsnipsmitt_: wassup?22:55
smitt_emm if i use any console apt process can i use graphical gui for it together?22:56
ActionParsnipsmitt_: no, only 1 app can access the packages at once22:57
ActionParsnipsmitt_: yu can use either interchangably, but not simultaneously22:57
smitt_okey22:58
smitt_i ll be wait22:58
smitt_when apt finishes his job22:58
smitt_and then i try to install any programs from apt gui22:58
uberadmwhats the general opinion on kde4?22:59
smitt_kde3)22:59
uberadmthe kde thats just come out with kubuntu8.122:59
ActionParsnipuberadm: imho, its fine23:00
smitt_who use gnome?23:00
uberadmI quite like it, but wireless is giving me grief23:00
ActionParsnipuberadm: thats not kde, thats the OS23:00
uberadmoh ok23:00
uberadmdo you think it would be better if I just changed to ubuntu?23:01
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smitt_is alac decoder useful?23:02
isaacj87hey all, accidentally deleted the trash from the places panel in Dolphin. Anyone know how to get it back...Is it "trash:/" ?23:02
ActionParsnip!trash23:02
ubottuThe location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash23:02
ActionParsnipi dunno how to get it back in dolphin23:02
JontheEchidnaisaacj87: you can drag trash:/ to the places sidebar23:03
ActionParsnipisaacj87: check the trash folders exist and remember linux is case sensitive23:03
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isaacj87JontheEchidna: where is that located?23:03
JontheEchidnajust type trash into the location bar23:04
ActionParsnipuberadm: depends what desktop environment you like23:04
JontheEchidnaright click -> edit location bar23:04
uberadmActionParsnip: I usually tend towards kde, but I'm more concerned about getting my pc working properly23:05
ActionParsnipuberadm: well if you like kde, install kubuntu23:05
uberadmthats the thing, I can't seem to get my wireless working... kwirelessmanager doesn't load23:06
ActionParsnipuberadm: then use a different app23:06
ActionParsnipuberadm: or manuallly config /etc/network/interfaces23:06
isaacj87JontheEchidna: Thanks, I just needed the location. Drag and drop didn't work with KDE 4.2 beta 1, so I just manually added a new entry to the place panel with the location of "trash:/"23:07
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smitt_downloading kdevelop, thiks it is cool23:07
ActionParsnipuberadm: there are millions of wifi config apps23:07
brainguten abend23:08
comeditHow can I get things as : edit as root, open as root, run as root back in my menus again in kubuntu 8.10 (kde 4.1)23:08
uberadmActionParsnip: how close are kubuntu and ubuntu? is the difference just in the DE?23:08
ActionParsnipyep23:09
ActionParsnipliterally23:09
comeditin kde 3.5 it was all there23:09
uberadmActionParsnip: okay, well that helps23:10
ActionParsnipcomedit: kdesudo kate or sudo <cli app> or kdesudo <gui app>23:10
comeditor is there an other way to work as root in Kde now23:10
comeditfrom Konsole you mean23:11
ActionParsnipyeah23:11
comeditthat's a setback for me23:12
ActionParsnipcomedit: i dont know any other way23:12
ActionParsnipcomedit: mind you I use CLI LOADS23:12
uberadmcomedit: I use sudo passwd23:12
ActionParsnipoh dont do that23:13
uberadmlol why not...?23:13
ActionParsnipenabling root logon reduces the security of your system23:13
comeditwell I am ok if i am workingin Konsole to use sudo no prob ... why not sudo23:13
ActionParsnipsudo on console is awesome23:14
ActionParsnipenabling the root logon is retarded23:14
DaskReechActionParsnip: No it doesn't :-P23:14
ActionParsnipyou can sudo -i23:14
DaskReechNo it's not23:14
uberadmwhats sudo -i?23:14
jlcwhen I install kubuntu on top of ubuntu and login, it has both NetworkManager applet and KnetworkManager in the task bar23:14
DaskReechuberadm: Temporary root login23:14
DaskReechjlc: kill one23:14
ActionParsnipDaskReech: if the account is disabled there is 0% chance anyone can get at that account23:14
jlchow do I remove nm-applet from it23:14
jlcis that normal?23:14
DaskReechActionParsnip: Yeah but they get at your account and you are equally screwed23:15
DaskReechNot a lot of difference23:15
ActionParsnipDaskReech: but they have to know your password which is not gained using buffer attacks / program attacks23:15
DaskReechIt does prevent you accidently screwing yourself in most cases which is useful23:15
uberadmthe way kubuntu handles root is a bit weird23:15
ActionParsnipDaskReech: sudo / kdesudo requires password entry, root doesnt23:15
DaskReech!root23:16
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:16
faileasuberadm: sudo is ok once you get used to it23:16
* uberadm isused to using su23:17
coreymon77uberadm: so was i when i first started, now i always use sudo, even when not on kubuntu23:17
CoJaBo-EeeWhat do I need to do to get to Windows shared files? It worked before, but now it asks me for a password?23:17
ActionParsnipuberadm: sudo -i is advised23:17
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: you can use smbmount23:18
coreymon77just plain sudo is advised really23:18
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: make sure the access account has a password or it won't fly23:18
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: I am using the regular file manager (Dolphin)23:19
uberadmwhen I tried using sudo it asked to the root passwd... which I never set in install23:19
CoJaBo-EeeIt asks me for a password.23:19
Dragnslcruberadm- no, it asked for your user password23:19
ActionParsnipuberadm: you did, its YOUR password that you log in with23:19
uberadmoh lol23:19
uberadmokay23:19
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: then use username / password that has the permissions you want in the local folder permissions23:20
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: There is no password tho, its configured to share to anyone.23:20
* uberadm is starting to get this now... ubuntu doesn't ask for a root passwd in install so that the system is more secure by default23:21
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: i'd add a password. Ive personally never had a none passworded account for shares23:21
astrommeis anyone working in jaunty with fglrx? It keeps failing for me.23:22
comeditok basically I was looking for a solution in KDE4.1 for example within dolphin: right click  open as root23:22
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: Its a home network shared drive. There is no need for a password, yet it is asking me for one.23:22
comeditthat's now gone in 4.123:22
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: try adding a password, see if its good23:22
comeditand Konsole I know how to use sudo23:23
ActionParsnipcomedit: add a menu item for 'run dolphin as root' which runs 'kdesudo dolphin'23:23
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: Not even sure how, never used passwords on Windows shares before. I connected before OK, not sure what could have changed now.23:23
comeditnow I got it23:23
comeditActionParsnip: thanks (should havethought of it myself)23:24
ActionParsnipcomedit: np man23:24
CoJaBo-EeeIs there any way to get it to connect without password?23:24
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: i think you are gonna have to experiment with the new system23:25
smitt_dask23:25
DaskReechyes?23:25
smitt_do u use backtrack3?23:25
smitt_up23:25
DaskReechNo What's that?23:25
smitt_emm hacker linux system23:25
DaskReechNope not used it23:26
smitt_very very cool23:26
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: Is there a way to fix it?23:26
smitt_try it, it is only live cd23:26
JontheEchidnaMy BbalL plasmoid is stuck inside my cashew D:23:26
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: i'd add a new windows user account with a password23:27
HappySmileManIs the Bball plasmoid supposed to just fall and then sit at bottom of screen23:27
HappySmileManIf so it's working perfectly and not very impressive23:28
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: then use smbmount in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot and store the username and password23:28
DaskReechHappySmileMan: It's a bouncing ball23:28
DaskReechYou throw it against things and it bounces23:28
DaskReechMore a proof of concept like the tiger face23:28
DaskReechNot intended to be useful23:28
HappySmileManAh I assumed it was supposed to keep going, rather than require user to throw it23:28
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: Why would it require a password23:29
DaskReechThat would get annoying fast23:29
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: security, i guess. not sure23:29
ActionParsnip!smbmount23:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about smbmount23:29
HappySmileManHaving a ball sit at bottom of screen is annoying?23:29
DaskReechHappySmileMan: having it bouncing by itself randomly then trying to catch it to stop it would be annoying23:31
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: Did something change in a recent update that broke it working wihout password, or is it something else that I might have changed?23:32
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: not sure what you have changed. could be an update23:33
HappySmileManHey iu think I just got to to go forever by reducing gravity to 0, friction to 0 and max restitution23:33
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares23:33
HappySmileManIt DOES get annoying23:33
DaskReechHappySmileMan: Leave it for a few hours :)23:33
HappySmileManHave is bouncing slowly along bottom, doubt it can speed up so I'll leave it there23:34
JontheEchidnalol23:34
JontheEchidnayou can set it to autobounce too23:34
LimpalotCan anyone point me to a good howto for syncing Nokia E65 against Evolution? Please, pretty please with sugar on top?23:34
sd32what  no cherry?23:35
LimpalotOk, I'll throw in a cherry too :)23:35
sd32:)23:35
ActionParsnipLimpalot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26067623:36
LimpalotActionParsnip: That should work with Intrepid? Hmmmm, maybe I'll just have to walk trough it again...23:37
LimpalotI'll give it a go, thanx for the tip :)23:38
ActionParsnipLimpalot: yeah, ubuntu is ubuntu23:39
DaskReechis kubuntu23:39
ActionParsnipLimpalot: http://www.opensync.org/ticket/62823:39
DaskReechOpenXchange?23:39
DaskReechFor KDE 4.4 :-(23:40
LimpalotHmm, can't find libopensync-plugin-kdepim and the repos indicated doesn't have intrepid. Just trying to sync between local Evolution and the E6523:42
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LimpalotThe first phone that comes with easy Evolution integration is going straight to my pocket the instance it hits the shops! What is it with Nokia and MS?23:45
DaskReechMoney?23:47
ActionParsnipms get more support due to bug #123:49
valerio#kubuntu-it23:50
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: I get "mount error 5 = Input/output error"23:50
ActionParsnipCoJaBo-Eee: check your mount command23:54
Xand3rhi23:55
Xand3ris there a command to make the cursor invisible?23:55
Xand3ri want that the cursor is invisible in a certain application23:56
Xand3rhow can i make this?23:56
Guest77531Xand3r: you can ask the author of the application to do it23:57
Guest77531there's a QT call for it.23:58
CoJaBo-EeeActionParsnip: Assuming the command is correct in that link, it should right.23:58
Guest77531Xand3r: xwit might be able to do it.23:58
Guest77531which app?23:58
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wesley__So how are you guys thinking about kde4.223:59
ActionParsnipXand3r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39502323:59
astrommewesley__ I'm struggling with jaunty right now23:59
astrommekde4.2 itself is great. My radeon card is not (and my nvidia no better =/)23:59

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