[00:00] <contrast> xp-killer: http://www.catswhocode.com/blog/os/19-ffmpeg-commands-for-all-needs-824
[00:00] <dr_willis> 'get over the  everything has to have an icon/gui addiction' :)
[00:00] <contrast> ActionParsnip: ?
[00:00] <dr_willis> Told that to a guy at work once.. he just stared at me.. and asked.. 'how can a program not have a gui?'
[00:00] <contrast> ah, nm
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> contrast: xmodmap
[00:01] <contrast> dr_willis: lol
[00:01] <xp-killer> contrast: that a program to do iso files etc
[00:01] <xp-killer> not for videos
[00:01] <contrast> xp-killer: acetoneiso converts, i don't remember if it'll convert to ps3-compatible files though.
[00:02] <xp-killer> contrast: ffmpeg the video can be anywhere?
[00:02] <contrast> AcetoneISO's an awesome little program - a bit of a swiss army knife for video and disc image conversions.
[00:02] <contrast> xp-killer: Umm... What?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: depends what you are converting from - to
[00:03] <xp-killer> contrast: the website u give me
[00:03] <contrast> yes...?
[00:03] <xp-killer> contrast: so if the video on the descktop wat comand do i put?
[00:05] <contrast> this is for the psp - i imagine the ps3 command wouldn't be very different, although you'll probably want to use a different resolution, i don't know what the ps3 will accept: ffmpeg -i source_video.avi -b 300 -s 320x240 -vcodec xvid -ab 32 -ar 24000 -acodec aac final_video.mp4
[00:06] <contrast> xp-killer: why don't you just put linux on your ps3 and not worry about having to convert anything? :D
[00:06] <contrast> I was messing with the Sound module in System Settings (trying to get the HDMI output working), and now my sound seems to be borked - the only device listed is PulseAudio, and I can't get sound from anything but MPlayer. Can someone please help me out? (I already tried moving ~/.kde, ~/.pulse and ~/.pulse-cookie, no dice. :-\ )
[00:07] <xp-killer> it will erase all my stuff so i cant*
[00:07] <dr_willis> I imagine the ffmpeg, and mencoder faq/docs have examples for converting videos to ps3 format.
[00:07] <dr_willis> They have examples for most other systems
[00:07] <xp-killer> dr_willis: i do ffmpeg -i '/home/xp-killer/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo.avi'
[00:07] <xp-killer> it give  me an error
[00:07] <contrast> xp-killer: to dr_willis you listen. ;-)
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you need to convert whatever format you have to mp4
[00:07] <xp-killer> contrast: ^
[00:07] <dr_willis> xp-killer,  and what was that command supopose to DO exactly?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: so if you find an mp4 conversion guide you should be ok
[00:08] <xp-killer> i dont want it in mp4
[00:08] <dr_willis> from what i see.. you just some how expect it to magically know what format to convert to? :P
[00:08] <xp-killer> dr_willis: lol
[00:08] <xp-killer> then wat im i sopose to do?
[00:08] <contrast> xp-killer: you have to tell it what to convert it to - the command you just gave us only tells it the file you want it to convert.
[00:08] <dr_willis> #1 - i would say - find/read the ffmpeg docs/faq.
[00:08] <contrast> xp-killer: re-read the website i posted, and use google. ;-)
[00:09] <dr_willis> Its a COmplex tool that can do what you need..  the FAQ most likely has example lines..
[00:09] <dr_willis> #2 - i would test with smaller video files first
[00:09] <contrast> Google = god of knowledge
[00:09] <xp-killer> dr_willis:  contrast explain me as if it was a child u telling it to cause im a noob
[00:09] <dr_willis> crawl, walk, run
[00:09] <dr_willis> learn the basics.. read more.. apply, experiment
[00:09] <dr_willis> http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/faq.html
[00:10] <contrast> xp-killer: but you're not a child, you're a big boy. you've been through school. i assume you know how to find things out on the internet.
[00:10] <dr_willis> I dont know what video format the ps3 needs.. the FAQ does mention the PSP and iPod.
[00:10] <xp-killer> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i give up im going on xp to use my converter
[00:10] <contrast> not to be a dick, but i'd rather teach you to fish than just hand the fish to you. :)
[00:11] <dr_willis> xp-killer,  go ahead.. we dont care either way really
[00:11] <dr_willis> Im not going to go research the problem for you.
[00:12] <dr_willis> xp-killer,  a google search for 'ps3 ffmpeg convert' comes up with a wiki page
[00:12] <xp-killer> yea but to use it on linux is another story
[00:12] <dr_willis> ffmpeg -y -i InputVideoFile.avi -title "Title Of Your Choosing Here" -bitexact
[00:12] <dr_willis> -vcodec xvid -s 640x480 -r 29.97 -b 1500 -aspect 4:3 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ar 24000 -ab 64 -muxvb 768
[00:12] <dr_willis> OutputFileNameOfYourChoosingHere.mp4
[00:13] <dr_willis> what story?
[00:13] <dr_willis> seems rather straight forward. :
[00:13] <dr_willis> http://ps3wiki.qj.net/index.php/Using_ffmpeg_to_transcode_video_for_the_PS3
[00:14] <contrast> i've reluctantly come to accept that some people simply will not, or can not, come to terms with using the command line for *anything,* no matter how "simple" the command in question may be to those of us who are terminally inclined.
[00:14] <dr_willis> ffmpeg -i input_file_name.avi -sameq -s 640x480 output_file_name.mpg
[00:14] <dr_willis> may even work.. according to the guides..
[00:14] <dr_willis> so it seems the ps3 can play mpg :)
[00:15] <xp-killer> aaa my sis take over the computer with xp on it
[00:15] <xp-killer> well back to linux
[00:15] <contrast> Can anyone tell me why PulseAudio is the only output device listed under System Settings -> Sound, and/or why it's "not working" (according to a pop-up message I get at every log-in)?
[00:16] <unix> after editing fstab   i cant access ntfs volumes
[00:16] <unix> i can see the volume ntfs on dolphin...but i cant open it
[00:16] <unix> it says only root has the permission
[00:16] <dr_willis> pulse audio is used by gnome/ubuntu - not Kubuntu/kde i thought
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> unix: you need to add options to allow users access
[00:16] <dr_willis> and what was your fstab line you used Unix ?
[00:16] <unix> one sec
[00:16] <xp-killer> dr_willis: this is what i sopose to type in the console?  ffmpeg -i '/home/xp-killer/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo/Tinker.Bell[2008]DvDrip-aXXo.avi'ffmpeg -f image2 -i image%d.jpg video.mpg
[00:17] <xp-killer> dr_willis: to convert it?
[00:17] <unix> dev/sda1       /media/ntfs1    ntfs-3g        defaults         0       1
[00:17] <dr_willis> thats a szmple command line  - yes xp.. You may need to change things  depending on your exact setup..  as i said.. it may be best to test with a smaller video file
 ffmpeg -i input_file_name.avi -sameq -s 640x480 output_file_name.mpg
 may even work.. according to the guides..
[00:18] <contrast> dr_willis: Ahh... I think I may have installed Pulse when I was trying to get sound on my HDMI output working. So I should be safe just removing any pulse packages I have installed?
[00:18] <dr_willis> contrast,  perhaps.. I always set up the players to use alsa
[00:18] <xp-killer> dr_willis: why 640x480?
[00:18] <xp-killer> dr_willis: i dont have no smaller video
[00:18] <dr_willis> xp-killer,  i havent a clue.. I dont own a ps3 and i am repeating what i have READ ON THE GUIDES
[00:18] <contrast> lol
[00:19] <xp-killer> the ps3 can read avi files but it dont have the codec to read it
[00:20] <dr_willis>  an 'avi' file can be any of several dozen if not hundered codecs
[00:20] <dr_willis> ps3 can proberly handle several different codecs. You need to convert the video files to a codec it canhandle.
[00:20] <dr_willis> thus the use of 'mpg' in the command lines.
[00:21] <dr_willis> you could move whatever.mpg to whatever.avi and it would still work most likely
[00:21] <dr_willis> but those tools use the extenson as a clue as to what format you want to convert To.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> unix: try this: /dev/sda1       /media/ntfs1    ntfs-3g       noauto,users,exec,rw,umask=000 0 0
[00:22] <xp-killer> ok
[00:22] <xp-killer> dr_willis: but to convert i dont know the comand to use
[00:22] <contrast> brb
 ffmpeg -i input_file_name.avi -sameq -s 640x480 output_file_name.mpg
[00:23] <dr_willis> MIGHT WORK.. according to the guides.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: looks good to me
[00:24] <dr_willis> Or there was a Much longer complex example i pasted earlier
[00:24] <dr_willis> ffmpeg -y -i InputVideoFile.avi -title "Title Of Your Choosing Here" -bitexact   -vcodec xvid -s 640x480 -r 29.97 -b 1500 -aspect 4:3 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ar 24000 -ab 64 -muxvb 768 OutputFileNameOfYourChoosingHere.mp4
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> jeez
[00:29] <dr_willis> whats scary.. is - i understand MOST of that command line.. :)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> haha, i'd just use the short one
[00:30] <dr_willis> of course - we havent even tried to convert it with mencoder. :) this is just ONE tool that can do it...
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> funny, he was "in a hurry" and he's still here 30 mins later
[00:36] <dr_willis> it will proerly take an hr+ to convert the video
[00:36] <dr_willis> depending on the machine
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> and the filesize
[00:36] <Walzmyn> I've got a bandnew intall of kubuntu 8.10 - howcome when i log in, my screen resolution is higher than I have set it. But when I open sys settings >>Display it instantly jumps to my settings?
[00:37] <dr_willis> TinkerBell Movie - about 700mb
[00:38] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  whats really amuzeing - is that  movie is allready in xvid codec.. so MOST likely will alrleady play on the ps3
[00:38] <dr_willis> note the  -vcodec xvid     line in the example :)
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: suprised it doesnt play most things anyway
[00:39] <dr_willis> the audio is mpga  - so not sure if thats anissue or not.
[00:39] <dr_willis> Sony so *#&@&!@ up the PSP with their video format demands..
[00:39] <dr_willis> i dont even have my PSP any more
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> sony shot themselves in the foot releasing ps3 after xmas
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> was hilarious
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> but offtopic
[00:40] <dr_willis> I dont keep up with consoles,  I rembver when PS2-Linux was a big 'thing' for a few weeks...
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> wii is fun but i only play on my mates when we are drunk
[00:44]  * leo_-away as the terminator says: I'll be back
[00:45] <BluesKaj> xp-killer, K3b can convert
[00:49] <wesley> i dont get why many people say opensuse is better, the opensuse is totally crap, kubuntu leaves kde untouched
[00:52] <dr_willis> I think KDE4 has been out for such a short time.. not a lot of work has been done to it yet.. since its still a work in progress
[00:52] <dr_willis> not a lot of work 'customizing it by specific disrtos' i mean..
[00:53] <dr_willis> Im sure suse and others will have theor own silly start menu variants soon. :P
[00:53] <xp-killer> BluesKaj: how do i run k3b? i install it
[00:53] <wesley> it sucks really the kickoff in suse, and yast is not that good as apt
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> wesley: i think gentoo is better than both. doesnt make it a fact
[00:54] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Don't you mean we will soon have Suse's silly start menu? :-D
[00:54] <wesley> Action
[00:54] <dr_willis> It will all be silly-plasmoids :)
[00:54] <dr_willis> and perhaps some of them wont crash!
[00:54] <wesley> ActionParsnip i never tried gentoo
[00:54] <BluesKaj> it should be installed as part of the default kde package , xp-killer
[00:54] <xp-killer> BluesKaj: ok i want to convert the video not put it on a cd
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> wesley: its a lot of fun ;)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> wesley: building a linux insall from the ground up
[00:55] <wesley> oh cool, if i could do it
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> wesley: theres a handbook to follow
[00:56] <wesley> i just going put kubuntu back and wait for kde4.2 packages
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !neon | wesley
[00:57] <wesley> !neonoutoffdate'
[00:57] <wesley> ActionParsnip, neon is out off date i finded out that is stuck at kde4.1.77
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> wesley: ive heard folks in here installing kde 4.2 with it
[00:58] <wesley> huh lol i didnt see that yesterday XD
[00:58] <marcus_> kkkkkkkkkk
[00:59] <wesley> i asked 4 5 times why it still was 4.1.77 but no answers, does it mather if i use a 32 bit system if i can use 64 bit ? i have 1.8 ghz celeron and 2 gb memory
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> wesley: 4.1 is ok here, on amd64 3000 soc am2 with 1gb ddr2 and onboard nvidia 6250 vga
[01:00] <wesley> but i have only shipit cds would 64 bit be faster then the shipit cds ?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> wesley: not so much faster
[01:01] <afeijo> linux does not have fancy games like all those to windows and consoles?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> wesley: depends what you use your system for
[01:01] <wesley> daily use and some testing
[01:01] <dr_willis> afeijo,  there exists games for linux..   savage2 just came out recently for linux m and winmdows
[01:01] <dr_willis> or theres always the 'wine' route..
[01:02] <afeijo> cool, checking
[01:02] <dr_willis> savage2 has a demo out for linux also..
[01:02] <dr_willis> savage 1 is free also. :P
[01:02] <wesley> Do you know whats the reason shipit does not send amd64 cds anymore ?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: frets on fire, urban terror, unreal tourneamt, world of warcraft, counterstrike source
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: all run great
[01:03] <DaSkreech> afeijo: We have fun games :)
[01:03] <wesley> and since when is wow linux native
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> wesley: not sure, ive always downloaded it
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> wesley: runs great via wine
[01:03] <afeijo> good to know! I just need to know how to find them lol
[01:04] <wesley> going login in Windows and download a copy
[01:04] <afeijo> I downloaded Spore, but I did not try to install it
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you may want to research before making large swooping statements
[01:04] <dr_willis> Spore does not work with wine i heard.. but i c ant confirm that..
[01:05] <dr_willis> Spore is barely worth pl;aying more then once...
[01:05] <dr_willis> :P
[01:05] <DaSkreech> afeijo: Doesn't that have DRM like nuts in a case of nuts?
[01:06] <dr_willis> Spore has DRM out the wazoo i hear
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: http://linuxoutlaws.com/spore
[01:08] <afeijo> ActionParsnip: thanks
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: again, simple research
[01:08]  * ActionParsnip has black belt google-fu
[01:09] <afeijo> I didnt knew that Wine could do adv games, my bad
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: there are loki installers too for some games
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: theres also a linux native app for doom3 to run native
[01:10] <dr_willis> most id games have native linux clients
[01:10] <afeijo> I'm coding a online game with php, but there is not many games channel on freenode
[01:10] <dr_willis> Thenotehr companies take the id engine.. and then decide not to do ports.. :()
[01:10] <afeijo> doom3 is a nice game :)
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> head to #php
[01:10] <faileas> ActionParsnip: id programmes in C and ASM so its trivial for them to release linux clients. they also open source their engines eventually
[01:10] <afeijo> I go to php, it is a tech channel, not games related
[01:11] <afeijo> downloading savage2 at 330 kbps :)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: they may be able to help with errors etc
[01:12] <afeijo> I'm a experienced php devel, no help required... I need beta testers, to find discrepancies
[01:23] <rimas123> hello, are there anyone able to give a quick consultation on freebsd?:) simple thing probably, but ive been wrecking my brain for few fuckin hours
[01:25] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | rimas123
[01:25] <DaSkreech> rimas123: #freebsd
[01:26] <rimas123> DaSkreech: for some reason i cannot join that, says 'you need to be identified'
[01:26] <DaSkreech> !register | rimas123
[01:27] <rimas123> well i did register w nickserv
[01:27] <stdin> rimas123: check your email
[01:29] <rimas123> ok now i feel real stupid
[01:29] <rimas123> :)
[01:29] <rimas123> thanks:)
[01:30] <ibuffy> what's the quickest way to paste just the conversation from a kopete log, no timestamps and such? (i'm thinking sed, but was hoping someone has a quick pastebin script already developed)
[01:33] <ibuffy> also, how to make the kde4 notifications of messages go away
[01:33] <ibuffy> they clutter the entire view if there's more than 4 of them
[01:34] <ibuffy> rimas123: i think if the community makes you feel stupid, they have done their job ;)
[01:36] <DaSkreech> ibuffy: Hmm?
[01:36] <ibuffy> DaSkreech: which line of mine are you hmming about?
[01:37] <Daviey> kk
[01:37] <DaSkreech> ibuffy: All except the last one
[01:37] <sunhongfu> Anybody use quassel ???
[01:37] <DaSkreech> Well second to last
[01:37] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[01:37]  * DaSkreech avoids qualifications
[01:37] <ibuffy> :)
[01:37] <sunhongfu> Anybody use quassel ???
[01:37] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: I have. what's up?
[01:37] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: you only need to ask once
[01:37] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, I am using XChat
[01:38] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, I don't know how to configure quassel
[01:38] <mister-tea> me "no one can make me feel stupid unless I let them" Elinor Roosevelt
[01:38] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: Do you know how Quassel works?
[01:38] <DaSkreech> mister-tea: me hungry me eat
[01:38] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, if I want to login to this room ,how do I set the hostname or something ?
[01:39] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, no I dont know how it works
[01:39] <rimas123> em is it possiblo to make ufs fs on linux?
[01:39] <mister-tea> sue me I forgot the /
[01:39] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: It's a distributed client so you ahve a core that attaches to a server and an identity that attaches to rooms. Then you run a client and connect that to the core
[01:40] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: actually ... #quassel :-D
[01:40] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, this is my settings.hostname :irc.freenode.net, port:6667
[01:40] <DaSkreech> \me sues mister-tea
[01:40] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, is it right ?
[01:40] <mister-tea> lol
[01:40] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: That's correct
[01:41]  * DaSkreech pitites the fool that doesn't like lipton!!
[01:41] <mister-tea>  :-D
[01:41] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, but it always said not connected to irc.freenode.net
[01:42] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: Where?
[01:42] <faileas> DaSkreech: pfft. ceylon tea is better ;)
[01:43]  * mister-tea english afternoon
[01:43] <DaSkreech> Don't let me get Ice T to pop a cap in ya
[01:43] <sunhongfu> There r 2 quassels . One is quassel, another is client only
[01:43] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, so what is the difference ?
[01:44] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: One is the core
[01:44] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: That connects to the internet and does the connection to IRC
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Then you use the client to connect to the core
[01:45] <DaSkreech> Does that make sense?
[01:45] <brunito> ola
[01:45] <brunito> pasenme
[01:45] <brunito> el espaniol
[01:45] <mister-tea> !es
[01:45] <brunito> gracias
[01:45] <brunito> thank you
[01:45] <mister-tea> de nada
[02:05] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, it still doesnt work ... will u say it from the beginning that I just installed quassel and quassel-client ?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu:  :-) #quassel will explain the application much better than I
[02:06] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, nobody talked there ...
[02:07] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: ok Well first you must configure the core
[02:07] <DaSkreech> have you done that?
[02:08] <sunhongfu> DaSkreech, yes
[02:09] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: ok part of that would be getting a port and name for the core session (password as well I think)
[02:12] <PSiL0> any progress in getting openoffice 3 to work in 8.10?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> sunhongfu: Run a client and point it to that core name/ip port combo and supply the IP address
[02:12] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: There is no attempt to do sp
[02:12] <DaSkreech> so
[02:12] <DaSkreech> If you would like it simply install it
[02:12] <PSiL0> I looked in the lauchpad repositories and the directories for openoffice 3 are empty :(
[02:14] <PSiL0> ahhh, apparently OO 3 packages are still not ready for primetime for 8.10 and 9.04 *ubuntu releases
[02:14] <PSiL0> damn
[02:15] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: As far as I know there is no work being done to get them into 8.10
[02:15] <DaSkreech> As I said if you would like OO.o 3 then install it.
[02:24] <apple_cat> How can I disable my laptops touchpad from working while i'm typing? I've found a few guides on it but it doesn't seem like xorg.conf is very useful these days
[02:25] <apple_cat> And looking through my xorg.conf there isn't actually an input section
[02:25] <PSiL0> apple_cat: sudo rmmod psmouse
[02:26] <PSiL0> to reactivate: sudo modprobe psmouse
[02:27] <apple_cat> Is there a way that doesn't need root privilege's?
[02:31] <stdin> !info ksynaptics | apple_cat
[02:31] <stdin> oh, it doesn't exist any more
[02:31] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:32] <stdin> install it from the hardy .deb, works here
[02:32] <mister-tea>  he he
[02:33] <stdin> or the gusty deb actually
[02:33] <stdin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ksynaptics
[02:36] <Makuseru> Is there any program in Kubuntu that can handle .mdf/.mds(Alcohol 120%'s file format)?
[02:38] <DaSkreech> I think there was in Hardy
[02:38] <DaSkreech> it was on KDE-apps.org you can check there
[02:40] <apple_cat> There was a program that converted proprietary formats to iso I think
[02:47] <wesley_> So done install kubuntu
[02:47] <wesley_> !neon
[02:49] <chx> hi. i tried to join to #kubuntu+1 but no so such channel so I ask here. is Jaunty going to be shipped with KDE 4.2?
[02:51] <wesley_> chx yeah
[02:52] <wesley_> jaunty going be shipit with kde4.2
[02:52] <chx> i might upgrade then :) I skipped intrepid.
[02:52] <chx> by the way, can aptitude handle jumping distributions?
[02:54] <wesley_> how you mean
[02:55] <chx> i mean, if in april i edit sources.list to jaunty and do aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade , will that work?
[02:55] <chx> i am on hardy.
[02:55] <chx> or should i first upgrade to intrepid and then jaunty
[02:56] <wesley_> its risky
[02:56] <chx> so, intrepid first.
[02:57] <chx> fine
[02:57] <chx> i can bear running intreprid for five minutes :P
[02:58] <wesley_> intreprid is fine :)
[02:59] <stdin> chx: jaunty will ship with whatever the latest KDE is
[02:59] <stdin> but don't upgrade now
[02:59] <chx> i wont
[02:59] <stdin> it *WILL* be broken
[02:59] <chx> i asked about April.
[02:59] <chx> when Jaunty ships.
[03:00] <stdin> some people have already upgraded, they are insane
[03:00] <DaSkreech> chx: Why do you want to upgrade ?
[03:00] <chx> now? I do not want to up now.
[03:00] <chx> [18:55] <chx> i mean, if in april i edit sources.list to jaunty and do aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade , will that work?
[03:00] <chx> this was the question
[03:01] <stdin> you won't have to do that
[03:01] <chx> in April I want to upgrade to have KDE4. Sounds fun.
[03:01] <wesley_> you can use kde-nightly
[03:01] <stdin> you already know what to do ;)
[03:01] <chx> stdin: ??
[03:02] <stdin> "<chx> or should i first upgrade to intrepid and then jaunty" <- do that
[03:02] <chx> oh ok
[03:02] <chx> sure.
[03:02] <chx> Drupal also does not support jumps. I understand the developers do not want to fight N upgrades, one is quite enough.
[03:03] <wesley_> stdin, i accualy did run ubuntu 9.04, but i couldnt install kde4
[03:03] <stdin> it's not 9.04 yet, it's only 9.04 on release
[03:03] <stdin> think about what happened to dapper
[03:03] <wesley_> i know, and you know what i meant
[03:04]  * genii contemplates 9.06
[03:04] <wesley_> what did happen to dapper?
[03:04] <genii> wesley_: They missed their schedule
[03:04] <yanko> hi
[03:04] <yanko> i am new to ubuntu
[03:04] <wesley_> ow yeah like that, but is that a problem then
[03:04] <DaSkreech> stdin: Didn't sabdfl say that won't happene again
[03:05] <yanko> i am a pc lol  switching to ubuntu
[03:05] <genii> yanko: How may we assist you?
[03:05] <DaSkreech> yanko: welcome!!
[03:05] <yanko> thanks
[03:05] <yanko> ubuntu looks so muck cleaner and neat
[03:05] <wesley_> systembar is all messed up in intrepid
[03:06] <yanko> i just have fe problems with it
[03:06] <yanko> lol
[03:06] <stdin> DaSkreech: it can't be guaranteed, but I wouldn't expect it on a non-LTS release. unless something horrible happens
[03:06] <genii> Hmm
[03:06] <mister-tea> yanko: just ask
[03:06] <ibuffy> how to change all the directory names to lower case without affecting programs?
[03:07] <wesley_> 8.04 was almost 2 days before release out
[03:07] <ibuffy> such as the defautl paths in dolphin or plamoids
[03:07] <ibuffy> for instance Music should be audio
[03:07] <yanko> well i got a logitech g5 mouse  and the back and foword butons dont work?? anyidea?
[03:07] <ibuffy> Pictures = images
[03:07] <yanko> cant play mpeg files or avi?
[03:08] <yanko> and wahts a good software for photoediting?
[03:08] <yanko> website developing?
[03:08] <genii> yanko: The mouse issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98019
[03:08] <DaSkreech> stdin: Well he seems intent on drumming the message that features are not important shipping on time is
[03:08] <mister-tea> gimp?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> ibuffy: Just change them
[03:09] <stdin> DaSkreech: it wouldn't be a missing feature or something, more like an X breakage
[03:09] <DaSkreech> yanko: install restricted-extras
[03:09] <DaSkreech> yanko: gimp
[03:09] <DaSkreech> yanko: Quanta
[03:10] <mister-tea> thers also a gimp plus thingy that makes it work more like photoshop
[03:10] <genii> gimpshop
[03:10] <DaSkreech> stdin: Don't they have nearly a month to fix that?
[03:10] <DaSkreech> !info gimpshop
[03:10] <mister-tea> yeah that's it
[03:10] <wesley_> kde has also in koffice something like photoshop
[03:10] <genii> However gimpshop is 2.2 and current gimp is 2.4 so need to remove 2.4 before install of gimpshop deb or so
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Bah
[03:11]  * mister-tea no it's cool
[03:11]  * mister-tea like iced tea
[03:12] <yanko> ok well thats lot of info to take at once
[03:12] <yanko> but thanks alot actually
[03:12] <mister-tea>  :-)
[03:12] <stdin> DaSkreech: depends on the issue, and what caused it
[03:12] <genii> DaSkreech: http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb
[03:13]  * genii sips
[03:13] <yanko> does anyone uses msn ? so i can add some one if i get stuck
[03:13] <DaSkreech> yanko: Get used to that ;-)
[03:13] <yanko> cause i am not good on irc
[03:13] <DaSkreech> yanko: There is here
[03:13] <DaSkreech> Why not? Loads more people to ask :)
[03:13] <yanko> well i guess you are rite
[03:14] <yanko> i am off to fix mouse first
[03:14] <yanko> thankx
[03:15] <wesley_> google docs works in konq
[03:15] <DaSkreech> Seriously??
[03:15] <DaSkreech> WIthout lying?
[03:15] <wesley_> yes
[03:16] <yanko> i am back
[03:16] <wesley_> you just need to set docs.google.com in id thing
[03:16] <yanko> where is InputDevice?
[03:17] <mister-tea> you know I've used knoppix and thier version of konq seems to do everything
[03:17] <wesley_> you just need to use id firefox or ie6
[03:17] <mister-tea> yup
[03:18] <DaSkreech> yanko: What are you looking at?
[03:18] <genii> yanko: Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
[03:18] <genii> DaSkreech: Likely the xorg.conf edit I pointed him at
[03:18] <wesley_> google docs looks really good
[03:18] <DaSkreech> genii: Ah yo uare helping ok
[03:19] <genii> yanko: It is in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf      So to edit this file, need to know if you are on KDE or Gnome to give proper edit command to you
[03:19] <genii> yanko: Becaue previously you were commenting on Ubuntu and not Kubuntu
[03:21] <wesley_> why did kubuntu let juk out off default ?
[03:21] <genii> yanko: The fast way on a fresh install to know: blue background - KDE               brown background - Ubuntu
[03:23]  * mister-tea yanko hello hello
[03:23] <tkstka> hmm why does my sidebar menu sometimes distort colour and goes fuzzy? and why does my videos blink my desktop
[03:23] <tkstka> ??
[03:23] <genii> mister-tea: I think he may be overwhelmed, he is used to IM and not IRC
[03:24] <mister-tea> sorry
[03:24] <tkstka> I have the newest ATI drivers
[03:25] <DaSkreech> wesley_: juk KDE4 = Not ready and dragon player is simpler ?
[03:25] <tkstka> and KDE4
[03:25]  * mister-tea didn't mean to scare him
[03:26] <wesley_> juk kde4 is ready? i am using it for some time, and dragonplayer is for video
[03:26] <genii> mister-tea: Looks like he had some ungraceful disconnect so I doubt you were the cause :)
[03:27] <mister-tea> pheww
[03:32] <yanko> hi ubuntu froozw lol
[03:32] <rogan> whats the best desktop video capture program?
[03:33] <yanko> so where is that InputDevice folder?
[03:34] <wesley_> rogan for kde4?
[03:34] <rogan> wesley yep
[03:34] <wesley_> in kde4 theres on wich you can enable from desktop effects
[03:35] <rogan> ah
[03:35] <rogan> let me check
[03:35] <wesley_> but i dont know if it works
[03:35] <yanko> ?? any one can help me?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> genii: THat's you again :)
[03:36] <rogan> wesley I cant find anything of the sort
[03:37] <genii> yanko: You were disconnected earlier. I will reiterate what I asked before you left
[03:37] <genii> yanko: Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?
[03:37] <yanko> ubuntu
[03:38] <yanko> i got the logitech g5 mouse
[03:38] <yanko> back and forword btn are not working
[03:38] <yanko> and it says on the site to got to inputdevice section
[03:39] <yanko> and i have no idea where that is?
[03:39] <genii> yanko: OK. So   alt-f2   then:   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     to make the edit in that file, as shown in the forum page which contains the fix
[03:40] <genii> yanko: I should tell you that you are currently in the #kubuntu channel, and not the #ubuntu channel, as well
[03:41] <yanko> ohh
[03:41] <yanko> do you guys mind me here?
[03:42] <yanko> do i just add the code and save?
[03:42] <genii> yanko: Well, the point is that if we thought you were using Kubuntu, instructions specific to that would have been given, which would have just led to more confusion
[03:42] <yanko> ohh ok
[03:43] <yanko> and how do i get in ubuntu chanal/???
[03:43] <genii> yanko: Yes, save. You will however not see the result until next time you start the X server
[03:43] <yanko> ohh ok
[03:43] <yanko> well thank you
[03:43] <genii> yanko: To enter the #ubuntu channel, click on where it mentioned here, or else manually:   /j #ubuntu
[03:44] <DaSkreech> yanko: to restart the X xserver just logout then back in
[03:44] <yanko> ok thankx
[03:44] <DaSkreech> yanko: I will warn you that the Ubuntu channel is a lot busier
[03:44] <genii> DaSkreech: No, gdm/kdm needs restart
[03:44] <DaSkreech> genii: Doesn't logging out accomplish that?
[03:44] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: No
[03:44] <yanko> and does webdesign and photoedt ?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Sorry Daisuke_Ido
[03:44] <genii> DaSkreech: No
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i was thinking... what did i do?
[03:45] <DaSkreech> yanko: try gimp
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> still trying to find a good image dupe detector
[03:45] <genii> Daisuke_Ido:  Apologies, I hit Tab too early :)
[03:45] <yanko> well i got kubunu too but had some hard time figure it out ubuntu was more easy
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: digikam-kde4 ?
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> findimagedupes works, but pretty much just to tell me what the dupes are
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: possibly, though i'm not using kde :)
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Booooo :)
[03:46] <yanko> ok well thankx guys for the help
[03:46] <genii> yanko: You can be in whatever channels apply to your situation at once :)
[03:46] <yanko> and opensource rocks
[03:46] <DaSkreech> IRC ... being everywehre at once
[03:46] <yanko> so you dont midn me here
[03:46] <yanko> lol;
[03:47] <yanko> since i am here any c++ editors for ubuntu?
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> yanko: anjuta
[03:47] <yanko> with gui?
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> !info anjuta | yanko
[03:47] <DaSkreech> yanko: Nope we don't mind unless you start asking some deep Gnome questions.
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Kate :-)
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[03:47] <DaSkreech> awww
[03:47] <stdin> kdevelop
[03:47] <stdin> kate
[03:47] <stdin> codeblocks
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> kdevelop would be my other choice, i forgot where i was -_-
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> eclipse has c/c++ plugins now
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i believe
[03:48] <jussi01> !code
[03:48] <stdin> I like codeblocks, as it has code completion
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> gwenview is kipi-aware, right?
[03:48] <yanko> vast choices
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Umm
[03:48] <DaSkreech> I guess
[03:48] <yanko> no visual studio lol haha
[03:49] <DaSkreech> yanko: What do you want from Visual Studio ?
[03:49] <stdin> yanko: kdevelop and codeblocks are the closest to visual studio, but without the stupid code from microsoft
[03:49] <DaSkreech> ...
[03:49] <DaSkreech> MS doesnt have a lotta stupid code there
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: i only ask because i see a huge list of plugin categories in gwenview, an apt-cache search for 'gwen' turned up kipi-plugins (image manipulation plugins for kipi-aware programs), and, well...  nothing's showing up after restarting GV
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Wellt there is no kipi for KDE4
[03:50] <stdin> *cough* WinMain *could*
[03:50] <DaSkreech> so that may have something to do with it
[03:50] <stdin> s/could/cough/
[03:51] <yanko> well i get them all and try them i guess
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: Enhances: digikam, gwenview, kphotoalbum, showimg
[03:51] <yanko> and keep the one i like
[03:51] <yanko> sounds goog
[03:51] <yanko> good
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> from an apt-cache show on kipi-plugins
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> but it hasn't enhanced it yet :D
[03:51] <yanko> you guys hate windows?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Yeah they are doing a rewrite on it
[03:51] <DaSkreech> !bug 1
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> hate is a strong term
[03:51] <DaSkreech> No :)
[03:52] <yanko> deslike?
[03:52] <DaSkreech> It just bugs us :)
[03:52] <stdin> I don't hate windows, I just think it's not a good product
[03:52] <yanko> well linux is free and thats kool
[03:52] <stdin> but if you want to pay for low-grade software, it's up to you
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i dislike the windows way of doing things - limited choice in how i can set my own system up
[03:53] <genii> I don't dislike Winows either. But it's often inflexible
[03:53] <mister-tea> plus the advantage of being locked out of software I paid for
[03:53] <DaSkreech> By design
[03:53] <yanko> lol
[03:54]  * genii makes everyone sign a non-disclosure agreement before explaining to them they can't do what they want to anyhow
[03:54] <stdin> who would integrate a web browser right into the kernel? why, microsoft of course
[03:54] <mister-tea> and the crashes ...priceless
[03:55] <stdin> because web browsers are such a stable piece of software, it would never crash, right?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> mister-tea: I think you mean pricey
[03:55] <mister-tea> whichever
[03:55] <DaSkreech> stdin: no they are only stable if you have high privvy plgins available. All trusted of course
[03:55] <JontheEchidna> explorer.exe has quited unexpectedly
[03:56] <JontheEchidna> please proceed to no longer have a desktop
[03:56] <stdin> DaSkreech: and the only page you visit is about:blank
[03:56] <mister-tea> and the bsod
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> the BSOD has, over the past two iterations of windows, been given an unfair proportion of the blame for windows
[03:57]  * DaSkreech starts a new rant on how much we hate Linux
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> when i did use XP, the *only* time i ever got a bluescreen was with a bad piece of hardware
[03:57] <genii> Hehe
[03:57] <mister-tea> you still have to love it though
[03:57]  * jussi01 starts a new rant on how offtopic this is... :D
[03:57] <genii> DaSkreech: linux is a harsh mistress. But hot in bed
[03:57]  * genii hides from jussi01
[03:58] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: out of curiosity, did one of those bsod's ever give you any idea of what hardware was failing? I could never figure those out, I don't read hex
[03:58] <mister-tea> lol
[03:58] <DaSkreech> hex is sexy
[03:58] <DaSkreech> for DEAD people
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> not particularly.  though google was my friend.
[04:00] <mister-tea> the only thing I like about windows is that it fails and more work for me
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i need a smoke, then off to finish this book for a paper i need to write
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> meh
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i hate end of semester...  and i just realized i'm not in -offtopic
[04:00]  * Daisuke_Ido backs away slowly
[04:01] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[04:01] <JontheEchidna> booyah
[04:01] <genii> jussi01: I think it may be a losing battele ....
[04:01] <genii> *battle
[04:01] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Topic
[04:01] <ibuffy> should """PATH=/var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/:$PATH""" be at the end of ~/.bash_profile?
[04:02] <ibuffy> w/out quotes of course, just trying to figure out how to add a directory to PATH in ubuntu
[04:03] <ibuffy> i need the gem bin in the PATH directory permanently
[04:03] <ibuffy> not for one bash session
[04:03] <JontheEchidna> ^_^
[04:04] <DaSkreech> whoooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[04:04] <ibuffy> what did stdin do?
[04:05] <stdin> I rocked your world!
[04:05] <JontheEchidna> He added: KDE 4.2 Beta 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 to the channel topic
[04:05] <tkstka> how can I get amarok or some other audio player to see in my startup panel
[04:05] <tkstka> I mean I can see what song or radio channel is playing
[04:05] <Alumin> does Intrepid have KDE 4.x with the compositing stuff?
[04:05] <tkstka> would be cool
[04:05] <JontheEchidna> Alumin: yes
[04:06] <Alumin> sweet :)
[04:06] <Alumin> now I _really_ need to dist-upgrade hehe
[04:06]  * JontheEchidna crashes
[04:06] <JontheEchidna> d'night
[04:06] <JontheEchidna> *g'night, even
[04:07]  * stdin hates extra spaces in the topic
[04:08] <DaSkreech> nigh JontheEchidna
[04:09] <genii> stdin: Perfectionist!
[04:10] <stdin> it saves those on dial-up from downloading that extra byte
[04:11] <ibuffy> do i have to reboot X or something for the PATH to become active?
[04:12] <genii> ibuffy: No, just source it
[04:13] <ibuffy> bam!
[04:13] <ibuffy> thanks genii
[04:13] <genii> ibuffy: Youre welcome
[04:14] <ibuffy> genii: i was one line away from reading that in the bash guide
[04:14] <genii> ibuffy: Good to know some people do their homework :)
[04:15] <ibuffy> i try, really good info in there
[04:16] <Apple_Cat> I don't have an input section in my xorg.conf, Can I just add it with the SHMConfig option with no ill effects?
[04:18] <tkstka> I have lcd screen in my keyboard.. is there a player in kubuntu/ubuntu that supports lcd screen?
[04:24] <draik> What is lirc and do I need it? I fails every boot.
[04:24] <stdin> infra-red support
[04:25] <draik> I don't have infra-red. Can I remove it or is it tied up into something else?
[04:25] <Apple_Cat> if rmmod psmouse stops my touchpad, is that the driver I should enter under the input section of my xorg.conf ?
[04:26] <chx> aw come on, it's unix, such ties are ... uncommon to say the least.
[04:26] <draik> chx: Just making sure it's not a dependency for something else, that's all.
[04:27] <chx> I am quite sure it's not
[04:27] <chx> but really, tias.
[04:28] <stdin> draik: it's a part of the default install so you'd need to remove some meta-packages, but there's no point
[04:28] <stdin> it's not doing anything without any hardware
[04:29] <draik> Any way I can stop it from loading?
[04:29] <genii> draik: use update-rc.d to prevent it from running at levels 2 thru 5
[04:30] <stdin> there was a GUI for that, it disappeared though
[04:31] <draik> What is "not really"?
[04:31] <genii> draik: Fast and dirty:    chmod -x the lircd init.d entry
[04:32] <draik_> My desktop just froze. Happens from time to time, which I find awkward.
[04:37] <r0uzic> hi, i have a problem with upgrade to kde 4.2 beta 1
[04:37] <r0uzic> hi, i have a problem with upgrade to kde 4.2 beta 1
[04:37] <r0uzic> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):
[04:37] <r0uzic>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-front.png', which is also in package koffice-data-kde4
[04:42] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb
[04:43] <Hydrant> anyone else experince flash being really choppy ?
[04:43] <xjjk> hallo... would anyone out of the godness of their heart be planning to do a kde 4.2 backport for hardy?
[04:46] <DaSkreech> r0uzic: That was for you btw
[04:48] <r0uzic> DaSkreech: is solved, i remove koffice-kde4
[04:48] <r0uzic> x restart
[04:51] <snakeface> im trying to speedup kde4.  i have a p4 processor, onboard intel video and 512 ram.  I already removed dolphin.  thoughts?
[04:52] <fiyawerx> removing dolphin speeds up kde4?
[04:52] <snakeface> yeah
[04:52] <snakeface> dolphin is a retarded program anyway
[04:52] <snakeface> its terrible slow
[04:53] <snakeface> and you can just use konqueror instead.  i prefer it anyway.
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Hi yanko
[04:54] <DaSkreech> snakeface: You have the right drivers for the intel crad?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> card?
[04:54] <yanko> hey guys me again
[04:54] <yanko> got few questions lol
[04:54] <draik_> My computer froze up on me again. I turned it of and try to turn it on again. I get nothing, not even the start of POST or access to the BIOS. It just sits there with the fans running. What should I check?
[04:55] <yanko> well i ll ask
[04:55] <genii> draik_: Try the power supply on another box
[04:55] <yanko> i am useing ubuntu
[04:55] <draik_> Power supply is good. It's about 9 months old, if that.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> yanko: Well that's obviously before any OS :)
[04:56] <DaSkreech> ack mixing of messages
[04:56] <yanko> so i run firefox and load a page that is flash
[04:56] <snakeface> DaSkreech: I think it knows my drivers automatically.  KDE 3 did.
[04:56] <DaSkreech> yanko: Sorry what was the question?
[04:56] <genii> draik_:  new != immune to failure
[04:56] <snakeface> It seems that is the first thing i should look into though.
[04:56] <yanko> falsh plugin for fire fox
[04:56] <DaSkreech> snakeface: Kde4 handles drawing very differently from KDE3
[04:56] <DaSkreech> It hurts a lot of Video cards
[04:57] <draik_> genii: True. It will eventually start, but when it gets to the part of loading GRUB, it holds for about 5-10 seconds, then I get the loading menu.
[04:57]  * DaSkreech waits for yanko's question
[04:57] <snakeface> DaSkreech: there likely are video card problems.  it renders things corrupted sometimes.
[04:57] <yanko> i cant use sites that require flash plugin
[04:57] <yanko> in firefox
[04:58] <snakeface> how would i find out what video card I have?  I forget it;s exact specifications
[04:58] <DaSkreech> !flash
[04:58] <yanko> ok i ll try
[04:58] <DaSkreech> snakeface: sudo lshw -C video is what I would do
[04:58] <genii> draik_: Perhaps it's doing: some motherboards have "crashfree bios" or so. so when ungraceful poweroff they think overclocking failed and load last known good or default cmos sets
[04:58] <draik_> yanko: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:59] <genii> draik_: So onboard video enabled, etc
[04:59] <snakeface> DaSkreech: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[04:59] <DaSkreech> r0uzic: Whooot
[05:00] <r0uzic> hi DaSkreech, works :p
[05:00] <draik_> genii: Ok. It's just strange that I'm getting these issues out of nowhere. I never had a single freeze with Kubuntu in the 2 1/2 years that I've been using it. 2 1/2 years as of Monday.
[05:00] <snakeface> if it knows what it is why wouldnt it have installed the correct drivers?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> snakeface: Cool. Unfortunately I have no clue what that means driver wise
[05:01] <snakeface> ill check the google
[05:01] <genii> draik_: Hardware issue somewhere likely is my best guess without being there in person to diassemble the thing :)
[05:01] <DaSkreech> snakeface: Multiple drivers may exist. It may choose "safe ones" that don't have a lot of performance
[05:01] <genii> *disassmble
[05:01] <genii> gah
[05:01]  * DaSkreech wants to celebrate/rant on Gnome 3 :(
[05:02]  * genii makes a note to reinstall typing tutor
[05:02] <DaSkreech> have you seen the Ktyper for KDe4?
[05:02] <draik_> genii: My only suspicion at this time would probably be the hard drive.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> it's sweet
[05:02] <snakeface> DaSkreech: the proprietary linux drivers from intel is what i want right?
[05:03] <genii> I thought all Intel drivers were FOSS
[05:03] <genii> (their policy)
[05:03] <snakeface> DaSkreech: what do you think of this?  http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[05:04] <DaSkreech> snakeface: There are no closed source drvers for Intel as I understand Even the official ones are open source
[05:07] <szrhawaii> hey
[05:07] <_2> .
[05:08] <szrhawaii> wow pretty dead tonight huh
[05:08] <szrhawaii> kubuntu must of fixed all problems
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Yay!!
[05:08] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Read the Topic :)
[05:09]  * genii breaks out the champagne
[05:09]  * DaSkreech goes to OT to mull over Gnome 3
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !ot
[05:09] <szrhawaii> thanks buddy
[05:09] <szrhawaii> i just like watching cause it helps me
[05:10] <szrhawaii> learn more
[05:10] <yanko> so i could not install the plugin for flash on firefox?
[05:10] <yanko> anyone have any idea
[05:10] <szrhawaii> how you downloading it
[05:11] <szrhawaii> how you trying to download it yanko
[05:11] <DaSkreech> yanko: How did you try to install it?
[05:11] <yanko> i could not find any downloads
[05:11] <yanko> there was a cmd
[05:11] <yanko> for alt+ f2
[05:11] <yanko> but nothing hepend
[05:12] <yanko> is there a link to get a application file and install it ?
[05:12] <genii> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:12] <szrhawaii> you can use terminal or your package manager to get   it
[05:12] <DaSkreech> yanko: :-) You are on Ubuntu ?
[05:13] <yanko> yea
[05:13] <genii> yanko: Enable in Add/Remove Programs the repository called multiverse
[05:14] <genii> yanko: Then install the package the bot mentions above
[05:14] <DaSkreech> yanko: want to do this the fast way and learn little?
[05:14] <snakeface> installing these drivers is very confusing to me and there is not proper documentation.
[05:14] <snakeface> do i need DRM?
[05:14] <yanko> yea
[05:14] <DaSkreech> yanko: Or I can walk you through a longer method to let you see what's happening
[05:14] <yanko> ok
[05:14] <genii> DaSkreech: :)
[05:15] <DaSkreech> yanko: open a terminal ant type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:15] <DaSkreech> snakeface: Shouldn't
[05:15] <yanko> i did
[05:15] <yanko> nothing hepend
[05:17] <snakeface> lol plasma desktop just crashed
[05:17] <szrhawaii> did you try your package manager yanko
[05:17] <snakeface> definitely a video card issue here.
[05:18] <DaSkreech> yanko: can you pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> !paste
[05:20] <DaSkreech> yanko: copy the contents of the file to that site and give us the URL that it gives you
[05:20] <draik> I finally got the images xfer'd from my XD card to my hdd.
[05:21] <draik> genii: Thanks for your input. I will look into various things about why things are getting out of control with my desktop.
[05:28] <_2> i'm wondering whether or not to update the system one last time before i freeze my dapper installation for ever
[05:29] <DaSkreech> yanko: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the contents of the file
[05:29] <yanko> i did
[05:29] <yanko> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80175/
[05:30] <loganWHD> anyone know of a great screen sharing program for kubuntu?
[05:30] <loganWHD> similar to teamviewer for windows
[05:31] <loganWHD> non vnc
[05:31] <DaSkreech> yanko: umm ok if you ran the command I gave you earlier then you should have flash
[05:31] <DaSkreech> yanko: restart Firefox
[05:32] <yanko> just turn it of and on?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+q should kill Firefox
[05:32] <DaSkreech> open it back and you should have flash
[05:33] <yanko> nop
[05:33] <yanko> not working
[05:33] <yanko> this is the comand?
[05:33] <yanko> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:34] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, in kde 4.2 beta 1, is there any way to move the items in the task bar? my menu icon is on the right and my tray icons are on the left...
[05:34] <Zeelot3k> also some launchers are on the left and some are on the right with open windows in the middle
[05:35] <DaSkreech> yanko: Yep What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Not that it makes much of a difference
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Zeelot3k: click the cashew You can drag anything around then
[05:36] <yanko> 8.10
[05:36] <_2> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree || echo failed!
[05:37] <snakeface> this is a "install-sh" file with these drivers.  with a "-".  what do i do with that?
[05:37] <yanko> ok the last one works
[05:37] <yanko> but i get a play buton each time and each time i have to press it?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> ??
[05:38] <yanko> well i put this
[05:38] <yanko> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree || echo failed!
[05:38] <yanko> and now the flash page works
[05:38] <yanko> but i get a play btn
[05:38] <_2> snakeface bash install-sh
[05:38] <yanko> and i have to klick it to be able to see the flash content
[05:39] <yanko> ?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> yanko: if they say so then yes :)
[05:40] <_2> hmmm normal update for dapper   Need to get 170MB of archives.   seems that my answer is NO!
[05:40] <Zeelot3k> DaSkreech: thanks a lot! I dont see how I missed it
[05:40] <yanko> well this suck unfortunatlly
[05:40] <yanko> but thankx anyway
[05:41] <_2> there is a new kernel subversion though, i might get that; it could have some security patches
[05:41] <DaSkreech> yanko: try a differnt page and see if you get the same button
[05:41] <yanko> ok
[05:41] <yanko> hold on
[05:41] <snakeface> _2: that doesnt work.
[05:41] <_2> snakeface trade bash for dot . install-sh
[05:42] <snakeface> do i need to make something first?
[05:42] <yanko> same thing
[05:42] <snakeface> i know.
[05:42] <yanko> have to press on a play btn
[05:42] <DaSkreech> yanko: The same play button?
[05:43] <yanko> yea
[05:43] <yanko> i tryed few pages
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:43] <yanko> why cant they make a simple flash plugin
[05:43] <yanko> like for windows?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> yanko: That is the simple flashplugin like windows
[05:44] <yanko> ohh
[05:44] <yanko> lol
[05:44] <yanko> in win you dont have to press play lol
[05:44] <DaSkreech> flashplugin-nonfree :)
[05:44] <_2> !gnash
[05:49] <yanko> hey zoran?
[05:49] <yanko> anyway
[05:49] <snakeface> will someone please help me install these drivers?
[05:49] <snakeface> it is killing me
[05:49] <yanko> the flash thing does not work
[05:49] <yanko> i ll just use win
[05:50] <snakeface> it is an "install-sh" file.  also a "makefile.am" and "makefile.in".  it says there is no makefile.
[05:51] <snakeface> what do i do?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> yanko: What site?
[05:51] <yanko> ?
[05:51] <yanko> any flash site?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> snakeface: you ran the install-sh ?
[05:51] <snakeface> it wont run
[05:52] <_2> snakeface read the README
[05:52] <DaSkreech> yanko: the one you are looking at
[05:52] <snakeface> the readme says nothing
[05:52] <snakeface> it is just documentation
[05:52] <yanko> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[05:52] <yanko> you mena in flash?
[05:52] <_2> DaSkreech i suggested to snakeface already both  bash install-sh   and  . install-sh
[05:52] <preston> i am trying 8.10 live cd and am getting some screen blinking going on roughly every 5 to 10 seconds any ideas as to what this is?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> yanko: yes
[05:53] <yanko> http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/gallery.html
[05:53] <_2> snakeface any other INTERESTING names ?
[05:54] <snakeface> "compile"
[05:54] <yanko> whats the #ubuntu
[05:54] <yanko> ok sorry
[05:54] <_2> no.  in ALLCAPS
[05:55] <DaSkreech> yanko: Just works for me
[05:56] <preston> any ideas guys?
[05:56] <yanko> ok
[05:57] <genii> yanko: Incidentally if you are testing your flash install by trying for instance to see shockwave content on a site, linux flash does not support shockwave since it is activex dependant
[05:57] <DaSkreech> preston: what video card?
[05:58] <yanko> i am not it's flash content
[05:58] <bazhang> !crosspost
[05:59] <yanko> who me?
[05:59] <yanko> i use ubuntu
[05:59] <bazhang> please dont crosspost.
[05:59] <preston> 8600gt nvidia
[06:00] <preston> daskreech i think i fixed it in system settings
[06:00] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:00] <preston> daskreech i killed randr autodetect changes and it stopped
[06:01] <yanko> ok guys thankx i am going back to win
[06:01] <DaSkreech> yanko: ok
[06:24] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, phpmyadmin installed on kubuntu 8.10 but it says I need to set a secret blowfish pass, where do I do that?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> !find blowfish
[06:26] <Zeelot3k> hmm?
[06:34] <loganWHD> anyone upgrade to 4.2 that was having sound and freezing issues before?
[06:34] <loganWHD> curious if it fixed
[06:35] <DaSkreech> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281884<-- zeelot3K
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Sound still seems to suck
[06:37] <loganWHD> ah
[06:37] <loganWHD> well then i am staying at 8.04
[06:49] <Ayabara> I get some dependency issues when upgrading to 4.2 beta 1. Ring a bell?
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Ayabara: What are they?
[06:50] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: kdepim: Depends: kjots (>= 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 is installed
[06:50] <DaSkreech> what happens if you just try apt-get install kjots ?
[06:51] <MasterAkia> im having problems with trying to get my headset to work...
[06:52] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: it fails and says trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/actions/edit-delete-page.svgz', which is also in package kmail
[06:52] <MasterAkia> i went to terminal and type in alsamixer and it shows that realtek is up and i need it to be logitech i believe
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:53] <szrhawaii> #windows-vista
[06:53] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kjots_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb
[06:53] <szrhawaii> #you
[06:55] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: dependency problems prevent configuration of kjots, and a whole list of stuff depending on other stuff
[06:55] <DaSkreech> try a -f install
[06:56] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: first thing I tried, but that doesn't work either
[06:56] <DaSkreech> What's the full error?
[06:57] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: hm. -f install seems to work better now actually. maybe some of the previous steps loosened up something :)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:57] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: yep, now it made it all the way. "we are eternally grateful"
[06:58] <DaSkreech> You may kiss the ring
[06:58] <Ayabara> hehe
[06:59] <MasterAkia> can i get somehelp with my sound plz?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> What's the problem?
[07:01] <lolren_> hi, can anyone tell me if farcry work with wine?
[07:01] <MasterAkia> well i can seem to get my headset working
[07:01] <MasterAkia> sry went to grab a drink lol
[07:02] <MasterAkia> basically i plug my headset in and i set everything to usb port
[07:02] <MasterAkia> and my device is set to logitech
[07:02] <MasterAkia> but in the alsamixer in the term its show realtek
[07:02] <MasterAkia> and i can hear nehting at all, inless its the test buttons on the sound perfernces
[07:03] <DaSkreech> lolren_: Check appsdb.winehq.org
[07:03] <lolren_> 10x
[07:03] <DaSkreech> THat comes through the headset?
[07:03] <MasterAkia> jus the sound test do
[07:03] <MasterAkia> and the lil clicks that you can play also
[07:03] <MasterAkia> nothing from youtube vent teamspeak
[07:04] <MasterAkia> basically everything
[07:05] <DaSkreech> try #alsa ?
[07:07] <MasterAkia> ??/
[07:07] <MasterAkia> what is that]
[07:07] <MasterAkia> so what looking at something, but what is #alsa? a channel?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Yes An IRC chanell sorry about that misunderstanding
[07:10] <MasterAkia> its ok
[07:10] <MasterAkia> thanks
[07:23] <SoftVision> hi is there a file i can edit to change my kde4 color scheme? system settings is crashing after i applied the magnesium scheme and now i want to fix this.
[07:24] <SoftVision> hello? anyone?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> I think that's in Plasmarc
[07:26] <SoftVision> No theres nothing there
[07:28] <SoftVision> ???
[07:34] <KillGuta> hello all
[07:34] <KillGuta> anyone know why my screen is flickering? just installed kubuntu
[07:39] <snakeface> i still need help with these drivers.  how to i apply the intel drivers?
[07:39] <snakeface> intel video drivers
[07:46] <DeadTreeHugger> just upgraded to kde 4.2 beta 1... a few things I noted...
[07:46] <DeadTreeHugger> there seems to be a conflict if you enabled the PPA repo for amarok 2 beta...
[07:47] <DeadTreeHugger> kopete in KDE 4.2 beta 1 doesn't have any MSN backend (whether the new or old), guess it missed the freeze
[07:47] <aftertaf> dpkg -i --force-override
[07:48] <DeadTreeHugger> not really big issues for me (I installed kmess to get around the MSN thingie) but just for others' info
[07:48] <DeadTreeHugger> but man, oh, man, is kde 4.2 every PRETTY :D
[07:48] <trav> anyone know anything about the icon glitches in Kubuntu 8.10 - Nvidia - Compiz Fusion?
[07:49] <aftertaf> DeadTreeHugger: isnt it just :)
[07:50] <DeadTreeHugger> things i can notice immediately:
[07:50] <DeadTreeHugger> 1) the icon bar rendering artifacts has been solved...
[07:50] <aftertaf> the taskbar :) looks finished
[07:50] <aftertaf> it just looks so nice ....
[07:51] <trav> kubuntu 8.10 is 4.1 right?
[07:51] <aftertaf> coupla bugzz but nothiong impossible to get around
[07:51] <aftertaf> trav: yep
[07:51] <aftertaf> 4.1.3 as of latest
[07:51] <aftertaf> or 4.2 beta 1 is cutting edge :)
[07:51] <trav> so 4.2 looks better and solves the icon glitches?
[07:51] <aftertaf> yep
[07:52] <trav> sign me up
[07:52] <DeadTreeHugger> 2) i'm running on intel X3100, n the DRI driver is pretty much borked until Intel fixes GEM issues but KDE 4.2 seems to hv been optimized such that i can actually run 3D fx smoothly at 80-100 fps. COOL!
[07:52] <aftertaf> 4.1.3 fixed a lot of perf issues already. but 4.2 is so nice :)
[07:52] <DeadTreeHugger> trav: I'm using Intel so I can't vouch for Nvidia
[07:52] <aftertaf> loool
[07:52] <aftertaf> im 6800GT
[07:52] <trav> also have another problem
[07:52] <aftertaf> and happpppppppppppppy
[07:54] <trav> I'm trying to connect to a windows pptp vpn...so I installed pptpd and KVnc...no luck
[07:54] <trav> so then I tried that workaround where you use the gnome network manager
[07:54] <DeadTreeHugger> 3) the new borders around task bar items make it much easier to read n count how many apps i hv running
[07:54] <trav> no luck either
[07:54] <trav> anyone know how to get it to work>?
[07:54] <aftertaf> trav: never tried....... :(
[07:54] <aftertaf> trav: what is NOT working? you get any error messages?
[07:55] <trav> nothing specific
[07:55] <aftertaf> :(
[07:55] <trav> let me try again and I'll do a pastebin with the log
[07:55] <aftertaf> k
[07:55] <DeadTreeHugger> i had problems w pptp as well, both w gnome n kde's networkmanager client
[07:55] <DeadTreeHugger> but i never got around to solving it 'cos i switched to ssh tunneling instead
[07:56] <bobthemil> I seem to have done something problematic and now I have no "K menu" in my taskbar (Intrepid)
[07:56] <trav> ahh
[07:56] <bobthemil> Anyone know how to get it back?
[07:56] <trav> bobthemil: add widgets
[07:56] <aftertaf> bobthemil: xhich version?
[07:56] <aftertaf> w
[07:56] <bobthemil> aftertaf: intrepid
[07:57] <bobthemil> trav: okay. Don't have it exactly as it was before, but I can get it
[07:57] <trav> http://pastebin.com/m3098d6ed
[07:57] <aftertaf> bobthemil: 4.1.2, .3, 4.2 beta? ....
[07:58] <trav> that's what comes up when I try with kvpnc
[07:58] <aftertaf> trav: i'd try playing around with windows vpn settings....
[07:58] <aftertaf> i had issues back in old days with win to win vpn......
[07:58] <trav> aftertaf: do you know if it works with kvpnc?
[07:58] <aftertaf> no idea....*
[07:59] <trav> the only solution I found on google was to use this gnome network manager but I had no luck
[08:00] <bobthemil> aftertaf: you mean KDE version? 4.1 I believe, but I'm not sure
[08:00] <bobthemil> what's the command to figure it out?
[08:01] <aftertaf> bobthemil: er... :) look in help menu of konqueror...
[08:01] <aftertaf> you'll have 4.1.x
[08:09] <supert0nes> anyone else have trouble with kdebindings-kde4? problem with needing libkimono4.1-cil but its not installable
[08:11] <aftertaf> supert0nes: you have all the repos available?
[08:11] <supert0nes> i would think so
[08:11] <supert0nes> this is for the experimental update
[08:11] <supert0nes> that came out tonight
[08:11] <supert0nes> 4.2 beta
[08:12] <aftertaf> hmm. im on the neon packages....
[08:12] <aftertaf> just updated and all went ok.
[08:13] <supert0nes> i have neon also
[08:13] <supert0nes> well i'm gonna go try to log into 4.2 beta
[08:23] <metellius> Unpacking kdebase-workspace-data (from .../kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb) ...
[08:23] <metellius> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-package.desktop', which is also in package libkorundum4-ruby1.8
[08:25] <metellius> because of that, I'm telling it to remove the libkorundum4-ruby1.8 at the same time as well, but the stupid thing won't listen
[08:25] <metellius> I was hoping it would actually remove the packages I request _before_ it starts complaining about file clashes
[08:28] <metellius> ok, removed the package manually with dpkg, and here comes the next clash,
[08:28] <metellius> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):        trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts
[08:28] <m__> someone should tell me please , whether i can change the defalut installation path of software packages
[08:31] <aftertaf> metellius: install the package with sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite [full/path/tp/package).deb
[08:32] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-data_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb
[08:32] <metellius> i actually got it working by doing the same thing again.
[08:32] <metellius> but, how safe is the force-overwrite?
[08:32] <metellius> does it not mess up the packages?
[08:33] <aftertaf> its safe in the way ive never killed anything yet......
[08:34] <aftertaf> clashes with apckages maintaining the same files.... so theroy is u dont lose anything ;)
[08:34] <aftertaf> theory
[08:34] <metellius> yes, but how does apt react when I try to remove one package?
[08:34] <ugumtu> why are ops in #ubuntu such asses
[08:36] <metellius> i think you want #rhetorical-questions
[08:36] <ooglebutte> ugumtu: you can ask in #ubuntu-ops
[08:36] <ugumtu> i was banned
[08:36] <ugumtu> they raped and molested me like a 5 year old boy
[08:36] <ooglebutte> don't winge here then
[08:37] <ugumtu> they stripped me naked of my manhood and went anal on me
[08:37] <aftertaf> !op
[08:37] <ugumtu> not you too
[08:37] <ugumtu> noo
[08:37] <aftertaf> ugumtu: bye
[08:37] <aftertaf> thx jussi01
[08:39] <tomas00> hello!!
[08:42] <aftertaf> hi
[08:42] <m__> My question is unanswered . i want a custom directory to install a package . would it be possible?
[08:43] <aftertaf> not to installa package no
[08:43] <aftertaf> from tarball, yes
[08:43] <m__> ok , thanks
[08:43] <zeltak> hi
[08:43] <aftertaf> packages are done also to standardise that type of thing ;)
[08:43] <ooglebutte> only if you recompile
[08:43] <ooglebutte> !compile
[08:43] <zeltak> installed kde 4.2 from the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[08:43] <shaja> erlang
[08:44] <zeltak> and all hell broke loose :
[08:44] <zeltak> can anyone help a bit?
[08:44] <aftertaf> zeltak: and? what you think?
[08:44] <aftertaf> what went wrong?
[08:44] <zeltak> mm first of all during the upgrade i got loads of errors
[08:44] <BlueEagle> zeltak: Which is expected when running experimental packages.
[08:44] <zeltak> especially about oxygen iconset and kde tools which cant be unpacked
[08:44] <aftertaf> like? already exists in other package?
[08:44] <zeltak> yeah not cpmplaininmg
[08:45] <zeltak> just need help :)
[08:45] <aftertaf> :)
[08:45] <zeltak> i think so
[08:45] <zeltak> hold on ill paste the extact test
[08:45] <aftertaf> i get the impression the neon packages are less explosive :)
[08:45] <aftertaf> brb, testing new updates :)
[08:47] <zeltak> http://pastebin.ca/1275691
[08:48] <zeltak> thats one probelm
[08:48] <ubuntu_> hi all, i want to quest about mp3 player codec on ibex
[08:49] <aftertaf> zeltak: ok. I have a 'fix' for those problems....
[08:49] <zeltak> sweet thx
[08:49] <aftertaf> zeltak: open konsole, and type this :
[08:49] <ubuntu_> ok...
[08:49] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb
[08:50] <aftertaf> zeltak: do for each package in the list, then run sudo apt-get -f install
[08:50] <ooglebutte> !mp3 | ubuntu_
[08:50] <zeltak> k sweet
[08:50] <aftertaf> you should get further
[08:50] <zeltak> im on it.
[08:50] <aftertaf> k
[08:50] <aftertaf> try that, ill be back after a short break from our sponsors :)
[08:51] <zeltak> :) thx
[08:59] <Colonel_Panic> hey anybody around here?
[08:59] <ubuntu_> thanks all brother
[08:59] <Colonel_Panic> I'm having a problem deleting entries in my KDE Menu
[09:00] <Colonel_Panic> Particularly, entries related to Wine programs
[09:00] <Colonel_Panic> or, programs in the Wine mwnu
[09:00] <Colonel_Panic> *menu*
[09:01] <ooglebutte> I never use wine but have heard the .desktop files for the menu entries are in .wine - maybe
[09:02] <aftertaf> back
[09:03] <aftertaf> so zeltak any better ? ? ?
[09:03] <zeltak> yep
[09:03] <aftertaf> :))
[09:03] <zeltak> seems to work now
[09:03] <zeltak> thx alot
[09:03] <zeltak> i will play a bit with the new kde (which looks awesome) anmd report back
[09:03] <aftertaf> experimental packages can work well, but be a pain to install....
[09:03] <zeltak> yup, expected that much
[09:04] <aftertaf> remember that --force-overwrite parameter....
[09:04] <aftertaf> served me well since hoary :)
[09:04] <zeltak> i will now
[09:04] <zeltak> :)
[09:04] <Colonel_Panic> ooglebutte: what, you mean the Wine registry files?
[09:04] <zeltak> k ill report back later and report any bugs i find
[09:04] <zeltak> thx again
[09:04] <aftertaf> ;)
[09:05] <Colonel_Panic> maybe I need to reboot?
[09:05] <Colonel_Panic> will that change anything?
[09:06] <Colonel_Panic> is there a file I can edit to edit the menu directly?
[09:06] <ooglebutte> Colonel_Panic: like I said I've never used wine - just heard that .wine is where most of it's configs are - if they're not there look in .config
[09:06] <Colonel_Panic> does anybody know where the KDE menu information is stored?
[09:06] <Colonel_Panic> isn't there a config file I can edit?
[09:07] <aftertaf> ~/.config/menus/applications.menu
[09:07] <aftertaf> but i cant see anything useful for u in there
[09:08] <ooglebutte> Colonel_Panic: have you removed the apps? - tried   sudo update-menus?
[09:08] <aftertaf> ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/    My wine stuff is there !
[09:09] <Colonel_Panic> I've removed the ones I want to delete from the menu, yes
[09:09] <Colonel_Panic> sudo update-menus?
[09:09] <Colonel_Panic> lemme try that
[09:09] <aftertaf> or kbuildsycoca
[09:10] <aftertaf> omg its snowing again !!!
[09:10] <aftertaf> ok. got to go for today... work !
[09:11] <zeltak> enjoy :)
[09:11] <aftertaf> butyeah !
[09:11] <aftertaf> :(
[09:11] <Colonel_Panic> I deleted them from that ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/ directory, and they disappeared from the menu
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> good looking out
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> thanks folks
[09:12] <aftertaf> :)
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> now I'm off to bed
[09:12] <aftertaf> ok cyall
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> 'preciate it
[09:12] <Colonel_Panic> night
[09:16] <omsoleh> if i want to customize just the appearance ubuntu 6.10, what should by me doing?
[09:19] <ooglebutte> omsoleh: do you know that 6.10 has run out of support - no more security updates etc...?
[09:20] <omsoleh> ouw, im sorry . i new about linux. im a newbie.
[09:20] <ooglebutte> omsoleh: kde-look will give some clues
[09:20] <ooglebutte> !themes
[09:20] <omsoleh> thanks about u're info
[09:21] <ooglebutte> np
[09:21] <ooglebutte> you can still ask about stuff tho omsoleh
[09:23] <testi_> I have KDE4 installed, but I want to configure the appearance of qt3 apps. KDE3 control center is not available.
[09:23] <_2> 6.6 still supported though
[09:23] <_2> !LTS
[09:23] <omsoleh> all brother thanks a lot
[09:27] <omsoleh> thanks all. in this channel i get more knowledge about kubuntu n ubuntu
[09:31] <_2> warning  /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-system-monitor.desktop    should i delete it ?
[09:37] <_2> desktop file /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-system-monitor.desktop has Type=PanelApp instead of "Application" or "Service"
[09:37] <_2> Invalid Service : /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-system-monitor.desktop
[09:38] <Apple_Cat> Hi, could someone help me get the internal wireless working on a Eee PC ?
[09:39] <Apple_Cat> I just tried installing mad wifi but make didn't finish
[09:41] <ooglebutte> there is a chat channel for the eee - buggers me if I can find atm'
[09:44] <_2> Apple_Cat what error ?
[09:48] <omsoleh> where's a place or directory if we download a codec,?
[09:48] <Tm_T> what codec?
[09:48] <omsoleh> mp3 codec
[09:49] <Tm_T> !mp3 | omsoleh
[09:49] <omsoleh> ok
[09:50] <ooglebutte> ]a codec will prob be in /usr/lib
[09:50] <ooglebutte> omsoleh: what's not happn'n?
[09:52] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/21680
[09:53] <omsoleh> im using live cd ibex now, and i just now downloaded that codec, and i will install this ibex on my comp
[09:53] <omsoleh> but in my home not yet connected a internet connection
[09:54] <omsoleh> so i will download  codec and copy that in my desktop
[09:54] <_2> sorry,   wrong number.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/21685
[09:55] <ooglebutte> omsoleh: if you d/load to the live cd then instal you'll need to redownload the codec then
[09:55] <_2> is that just information, or is it considered an error ?
[09:56] <ooglebutte> _2: that'll be an error
[09:56] <omsoleh> if we copy-paste that codec on my pc. what will working?
[09:58] <ooglebutte> omsoleh: there will be several files - you can d/load the package and copy it to usb then install to your comp with   sudo dpkg -i "package name"
[09:58] <ooglebutte> _2: tried following the steps listed there?
[10:00] <_2> ooglebutte steps ?   i don't need to "fix" it,  just asking if that clasified as an error or not
[10:00] <_2> it doesn't say there was an error installing the kernel, just gives that information...
[10:00] <ooglebutte> _2: looks like you were trying to install grub and there wasn't a folder for it
[10:01] <_2> ooglebutte just a kernel update.   apt did it.
[10:02] <Apple_Cat> Could someone help me get the inbuilt wireless working on a Eee PC? The card is a AR242x 802.11abg PCI
[10:02] <ooglebutte> _2: a kernel update needs to add to the boot menu normally so it would look for the folder - how do you choose diff kernels?
[10:03] <_2> Apple_Cat what error did make fail with ?
[10:03] <Apple_Cat> I tried installing mad wifi but I got these errors while running make: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80245/
[10:03] <_2> ooglebutte i don't use grub.
[10:03] <ooglebutte> that'll be why that shows - I'd ignore it then
[10:04] <_2> ouch.
[10:04] <ooglebutte> there is #eeepc for folks that know about the h/ware
[10:04] <srizz> i need help my windows keep going black when more then one is open
[10:05] <Apple_Cat> Thanks for that ooglebutte
[10:05] <ooglebutte> _2: ubuntu does some extra work on the kernels so including a link to grub might be one of the additions they do
[10:05] <srizz> i know its a result of something in the advanced desktop pref. just not what the prob is
[10:05] <ooglebutte> Apple_Cat: np
[10:06] <faileas> ooglebutte: wasn't there a eee specific repo?
[10:06] <srizz> anyone?
[10:07] <ooglebutte> faileas: it took me eight goes to find #eeepc - I know nothing about it...
[10:07] <_2> Apple_Cat i can't do anything with that error sorry.   hope someone else does get you moving in the right dirrection though.
[10:08] <ooglebutte>  #eeepc are helping him atm
[10:08] <ooglebutte> srizz: something about unfocused windows maybe?
[10:09] <faileas> ooglebutte: http://www.array.org/ubuntu/ i don't have a eee so i can't comment on how good or bad the packages are
[10:09] <_2> !eee | faileas also
[10:09] <_2> that what you were thinking of ?
[10:09] <faileas> >_>
[10:09] <ooglebutte> faileas: the recommended method is for the custom kernel to get his wireless working apparently
[10:09] <faileas> not really, i linked what i was thinking of ;)
 install kernel from www.array.org
[10:10] <faileas> oh
[10:10] <faileas> my bad >_:
[10:12] <ooglebutte> further info - <Tekno> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/setup-intrepid.html
[10:12] <ooglebutte> * onx endorses the array.org kernel
[10:13] <piquadrat> Hi. Kopete in kubuntu's KDE 4.2 Beta1 builds has the same dependancy problem as in kde-neon: it depends on libmsn, which is not packaged by ubuntu. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/project-neon/+bug/301333
[10:13] <_2> !eee > Apple_Cat
[10:13] <Tm_T> piquadrat: oh, nooo
[10:13] <_2> well i linked him that because there are several links on that page that he might want to look at some time
[10:14] <piquadrat> Tm_T: was there some irony in there? :)
[10:14] <Tm_T> piquadrat: no, but, hey, why not (;)
[10:15] <Apple_Cat> Thanks _2  ^^ that was just what I was after
[10:16] <piquadrat> It's just that my friends on MSN start to send me mails why I'm never online and if I'm dead already. On the other hand, it shows just how much KDE 4.2 rocks, me valueing it higher than contact with my friends on MSN :D
[10:16] <faileas> ;p
[10:16] <ooglebutte> hehe
[10:17] <_2> Apple_Cat welcome,  and sorry i couldn't do anything with the particular error,  but glad the page is a plus
[10:17] <ooglebutte> !amsn
[10:17] <Tm_T> ooglebutte: bah, it's not the same, son
[10:18] <ooglebutte> could have been an alternative...
[10:18] <Tm_T> ooglebutte: but it's not, if you're looking for multiprotocol client (:)
[10:18] <piquadrat> There's no such thing as an alternative to Kopete :)
[10:18] <Tm_T> piquadrat: exactly
[10:19] <Tm_T> except, newer Kopete ;--P
[10:19] <ooglebutte> I sit corrected :)
[10:19]  * _2 looked at kopete one time...
[10:19] <Tm_T> _2: and still staring it?
[10:19] <_2> no.
[10:19] <_2> but i don't IM so it just looked like bloat to me
[10:20] <Tm_T> heh
[10:20] <noaXess> xorg.conf, if i use nv driver, my system font has correct size.. if i use nvidia driver, size 8 for systemfont looks like siez 11 or 12...
[10:20] <noaXess> any idea why?
[10:20] <Tm_T> noaXess: hmmmm, dpi, you are used to have forced 96 dpi, right?
[10:20] <Tm_T> as perhaps nVidia driver can get info to calculate correct dpi for you
[10:21] <noaXess> Tm_T: now it's disabled..
[10:21] <Tm_T> noaXess: what is disabled?
[10:22] <noaXess> Force  fonts DPI in apperance..
[10:22] <Tm_T> noaXess: yes, but it might be that something in lower level does it already
[10:22] <remoteCTR1> how do i turn on the upgrade from hardy to intrepid in kubuntu?
[10:23] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[10:23] <Tm_T> remoteCTR1: ^
[10:23] <remoteCTR1> there we go, thanks!
[10:23] <ubuntu_> I need A help
[10:23] <Jesse___> hello.
[10:24] <noaXess> Tm_T: and now? enable force 96 dpi?
[10:24] <jussi01> !ask | Jesse___
[10:24] <Jesse___> I ordered 4 kubuntu CDs
[10:24] <Tm_T> noaXess: nvidia drivers in use atm?
[10:24] <Jesse___> but I got Ubuntu Desktop Server CDs instead of it
[10:24] <Tm_T> noaXess: sure, try with and without forcing
[10:25] <remoteCTR1> Tm_T: well that is exactly my problem: i know where to change from LTS to normal releases in gnome but i dunno how to do that in kde?
[10:25] <Tm_T> oh boy...
[10:25] <noaXess> Tm_T: ok... what you mean with nvidia in use atm?
[10:25] <noaXess> at the moment :) ok
[10:25] <noaXess> yes nvidia driver
[10:25] <Tm_T> remoteCTR1: does kubuntu.org has information?
[10:25] <Tm_T> noaXess: then try if that the difference (:)
[10:25] <Tm_T> noaXess: the dpi that is
[10:26] <Tm_T> OutoLumo: kvarkkikarkki
[10:26] <noaXess> ok.. need restart X
[10:26] <Tm_T> noaXess: relogin, indeed
[10:26] <ooglebutte> Jesse___: all you can do is make a new order and include a note saying what happened
[10:26] <remoteCTR1> Tm_T: dont seem so, at least i dindt find it ona quicksearch
[10:27] <Jesse___> Ok....now, what shall I do with the Server Edition CDs??
[10:27] <Jesse___> (which I got instead of Kubuntu)
[10:27] <remoteCTR1> ah i found it
[10:27] <remoteCTR1> its in the adept manager
[10:28] <Jesse___> Can they be used as Desktop Edition nes??
[10:28] <Tm_T> sure
[10:30] <ooglebutte> Jesse___: you can d/load xorg and a desktop environment and the apps you want to make a light distro yourself
[10:31] <Jesse___> Can I have the Linux Mint menu in Kubuntu?
[10:32] <jussi01> Jesse___: which one is that?
[10:33] <jussi01> Jesse___: sorry I had to run before
[10:34] <lukas__> hojjj
[10:34] <lukas__> hello
[10:34] <jussi01> hi lukas__
[10:34] <lukas__> i need matlab/simulink for kubuntu 8.10
[10:35] <lukas__> Octave is matlab command line only
[10:36] <jussi01> lukas__: can you elaborate what you are after? Im still not sure what you are talking about
[10:40] <lukas__> potrebuju program kterej jede jen ve windows a to matlab r2007b a shanim nejakou jeho alternativu pod linux nasel sem jen GNU Octave coz je jen command line ale ja potrebuju i Simulink
[10:41] <Tm_T> !cz
[10:42] <lukas__> ok
[10:44] <lukas__> !Cz
[10:59] <ubuntu-dron> hello
[11:00] <ubuntu-dron> has anyone packaged 180.06 nvidia beta driver?
[11:04] <ooglebutte> tried at getdeb?
[11:09] <ubuntu-dron> no luck
[11:11] <ooglebutte> says it all I expect...
[11:11] <ooglebutte> !nvidia
[11:11] <janorcutt> why would ne1 package a beta driver?
[11:12] <ooglebutte> optimism?
[11:12] <ubuntu-dron> because of promised solving of artefact problems
[11:12] <ubuntu-dron> aha, for certain extent
[11:12] <janorcutt> yeah, best off downloading the installer from nvidia
[11:12] <ooglebutte>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto   tells how
[11:13] <ubuntu-dron> thanx a lot
[11:13] <ubuntu-dron> will I need to reinstall the driver each time the kerniel is updated?
[11:13] <janorcutt> probably unless canonicals updated the repos by then
[11:14] <ubuntu-dron> that's what I meant
[11:14] <ooglebutte> /etc/modules is for loading modules at boot
[11:15] <janorcutt> but the module has to be compiled against the current kernel version
[11:16] <ooglebutte> that does make it hard then...
[11:16] <janorcutt> yeah but worth it if youve got one of the latest cards!!!
[11:17] <ubuntu-dron> I got the point :)
[11:17] <ooglebutte> you don't "have" to have the latest kernel
[11:17] <ubuntu-dron> I'd rather need to get rid of artefacts in KDE 4
[11:17] <ubuntu-dron> that's the main point for me
[11:18] <jussi01> Ok, lets get back to support, not why you need the latest driver arguments..
[11:19] <janorcutt> i thought i was supporting another user!!!
[11:21] <ooglebutte> but it is kubuntu support here not nvidia I suppose
[11:21] <ubuntu-dron> thanx for help ;)
[11:21] <ooglebutte> np :)
[11:21] <janorcutt> having an nvida card myself, i can support other ubuntu users...
[11:22] <ooglebutte> I'm with you there janorcutt
[11:22] <janorcutt> brb coffee calling
[11:23] <tompson> hi
[11:23] <tompson> i just did an update to 4.2b1
[11:26] <janorcutt> yes
[11:38] <Heinz> so see you next...
[11:39] <ubuntu-dron> 2 everyone suffering from artifacts on nvidia cards in KDE 4. The latest beta actually solves the problem
[11:40] <zetheroo> what is the equivalent of Update manager for Kubuntu?
[11:40] <lcw> what is konversation?
[11:40] <lcw> it is the first time, i use this tool
[11:40] <ooglebutte> !konversation
[11:41] <ooglebutte> lcw: it is a chat client
[11:41] <lcw> lol, what is the advantage of this tool?
[11:43] <ooglebutte> it is built to work with kde is it's main advantage for kubuntu users
[11:43] <ooglebutte> *its'
[11:44] <JavaJim> Hi
[11:44] <JavaJim> Anyone else having problems with kopete on 4.2b1?
[11:44] <Lindows> anyone know how to configure konverstaion to go through a proxy?
[11:45] <ooglebutte> JavaJim: someone mentioned that earlier
[11:45] <JavaJim> Damn... :)
[11:45] <mschiff> Did someone already report the packaging bug in the kde 4.2beta1 packages where /usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/actions/edit-delete-page.svgz is in both packages: kjots and kmail?
[11:45] <Lindows> brb
[11:45] <lukas__> !ham
[11:45] <JavaJim> ooglebutte: Was there a solution?
[11:45] <lukas__> !joke
[11:46] <lukas__> !news
[11:46] <lukas__> !nick
[11:46] <ooglebutte> JavaJim: I didn't see one but wasn't paying that much attention...
[11:46] <JavaJim> ooglebutte: OK
[11:46] <ooglebutte> !messagethebot | lukas
[11:47] <Apple_Cat> Hi, I had to modprobe a module to get my wireless working, will that module be activated from now onward or do I have to add it to a config file?
[11:48] <ooglebutte> Apple_Cat: you can add that module to /etc/modules to get it used at boot
[11:48] <ooglebutte> kdesu kate /etc/modules   in konsole
[11:48] <JavaJim> I have kopete segfaulting on me with lots of "undefined symbol" errors in different plugins (icq, jabber). If someone know a solution, please let me know.
[11:49] <ooglebutte> JavaJim: is a bug listed for that maybe?
[11:49] <ooglebutte> !bugs
[11:49] <Apple_Cat> Thanks again ooglebutte : )
[11:49] <zetheroo> ﻿what is the equivalent of Update manager for Kubuntu?
[11:50] <ooglebutte> np :)
[11:50] <janorcutt> adept updater
[11:50] <JavaJim> ooglebutte: The release notes say I shouldn't fill bugs against 4.2b1, so I did not check... Will do now!
[11:50] <ooglebutte> pays to look
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:58] <janorcutt> aiii
[11:58]  * jussi01 waves at ActionParsnip1
[11:58]  * ActionParsnip1 waves back to jussi01
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> does anyone here run compiz + kde 4.1?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> I cant resize app windows
[12:01] <unix> why is kubuntu not recognizing the mic or the record device?
[12:02] <ouglebutte> ActionParsnip1: there's no min max close buttons?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> unix: is your sound configured correctly? so the correct device for input is used
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> ouglebutte: oh i have those, just when i try to resize, the app window doesnt change size
[12:03] <ouglebutte> k
[12:03] <unix> yes....when i see mixer i can niether see mic nor stereo mix....
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> i can restore and maximise
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> unix: i'd check sound settings in systemsettings
[12:03] <ouglebutte> ActionParsnip1: #compiz-fusion might be able to help if noone here can
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> yeah was gonna head over, but was wondering if its a kde 4.1 feature ;)
[12:04] <unix> its showing HDA intel under capture
[12:04] <ouglebutte> !intelhda
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> unix: is there another option ?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> unix: maybe you havent unmuted the mic? maybe the mic volume is low
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> unix: have you cranked up mic gain
[12:06] <ThinkMinus> Hello
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | ThinkMinus
[12:07] <ThinkMinus> A friend of mine recently switched to Kubuntu from ubuntu
[12:07] <ThinkMinus> and neither he nor I are linux experts :(
[12:07] <ThinkMinus> When he was on ubuntu his internet worked fine
[12:07] <ThinkMinus>  but inside Kubuntu his internet connection is not working
[12:08] <ThinkMinus> He is using an ADSL 2+ broadband connection
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: can you ping 38.99.130.180
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: can you ping www.bmezine.com
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: can you ping your routers ip?
[12:09] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip1: I dont have access to my friend's PC now
[12:09] <ThinkMinus> I am at my home now
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: well note what I suggested and test
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: if you can ping the ip but not the name then dns is failing
[12:09] <ThinkMinus> When he was on ubuntu he used the pppoeconf command to setup his internet connection
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: if you can't ping the router, you have an issue with the config of the interface
[12:10] <ThinkMinus> I will try as you suggested ActionParsnip1
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: he may have to rerun it. im not sure where settings for that are stored but kde may store it differently to gnome
[12:10] <ouglebutte> that sight could scare some folk
[12:10] <ouglebutte> site  even
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> ouglebutte: tattoos and piercings are not scary
[12:11] <ouglebutte> hehe
[12:11] <ThinkMinus> But if I ever need to set IP address, DNS information etc. where should I find some "network config" sort of program
[12:11] <skarn> when i try to install KDE 4.2 beta1
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> ouglebutte: its just an ip i use to test dns fails
[12:11] <skarn> i have issues with the package kjots
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> skarn: what if you install it seperately?
[12:12] <ouglebutte> ActionParsnip1: please excuse my humor :)
[12:12] <unix> any software to record sound using mic?
[12:12] <skarn> apt-get tells me it tries to overwrite a ile that belongs to kmail
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> ouglebutte: np man. its been a slow day for me
[12:12] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip1 : Is there any possibility of using NDISwrapper with non wireless router?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> ThinkMinus: i believe so, yes. makes sense, try it
[12:13] <skarn> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/actions/edit-delete-page.svgz', which is also in package kmail
[12:13] <skarn> is the error i get frm dpkg
[12:13] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip1 : Oh... ty I will report back results in one hour or so :)
[12:14] <ActionParsnip1> skarn: you could force it but its risky
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> skarn: do you use kmail?
[12:15] <skarn> i do
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> bah
[12:15] <skarn> else i would have given up installing dkepim
[12:16] <janorcutt> unix: ardour is good if youve got jack
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> skarn: i'd try using some kind of force
[12:16] <skarn> ActionParsnip1: i'm not afraid of forcing, as the only thing that seems to be oberwritten is an icon
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> skarn: then id go for it, you ca always remove and reinstall kmail if it goes wonky
[12:17] <ouglebutte> dpkg -i --force-overwrite   I think it is
[12:17] <skarn> ouglebutte: ok, i'm trying
[12:17] <ouglebutte> luck :)
[12:20] <unix> what is ALSA.....can i use it for my intel motherboard?
[12:21] <ooglebutte> unix: alsa is a sound daemon iirc and yes you should be able to
[12:21] <ooglebutte> advanced linux sound system it stands for
[12:21] <janorcutt> alsa should be active in the kernel
[12:22] <ooglebutte> alsamixer   in konsole to be able to turn things up
[12:22] <janorcutt> good thing is if alsa is running kmix will pick it up automatically
[12:22] <skarn> i'm now getting a similar error with pkg-kde-tools
[12:22] <skarn> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts
[12:22] <unix> does it give me access to my mic?
[12:23] <janorcutt> yes
[12:23] <janorcutt> is the short answer
[12:23] <skarn> i will force this too as i don't think it will mess with something i will use
[12:23] <ooglebutte> it should if you have the module set up
[12:23] <ooglebutte> unix: ^
[12:25] <unix> yes i get the alsa mixer in console
[12:25] <skarn> other errors with kde-icons-oxygen and kde-icons-mono, icons again, will overwrite
[12:25] <unix> but i dont know how to increae mic volume
[12:25] <janorcutt> unmute the mic and use the slider
[12:26] <unix> but its showing 3-4 mics
[12:26] <skarn> finally did it
[12:26] <janorcutt> try good old trial and error
[12:27] <unix> ok....but how to check the mic
[12:28] <skarn> i will now restart kde
[12:30] <unix> how to install virualbox additional tools for xp?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> unix: boot the xp vm
[12:33] <unix> ok....1 sex
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> unix: once its up in the top bar click across them and read down, one will say "install guest additions"
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> unix: then say yes to what it asks
[12:33] <unix> i did
[12:34] <unix> but it says it cant find the vbadditions.iso
[12:34] <Apple_Cat> For programs that aren't in the repositories or aren't available as .debs, is it recommended to turn the source into a deb?
[12:34] <Apple_Cat> (before installing)
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> unix: then just download that file yourself and mount it in the OS
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> unix: it will act like you put a driver cd in the xp machine
[12:35] <unix> where can i download it?
[12:35] <bentob0x> quick question: what does the qt4 updates from this morning fix?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip1> unix: just websearch the filename, it will pop up someplace for you to download
[12:35] <unix> ok...1 sec
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> unix: have it mounted at boot and boot from hard drive first so its ignored, when you open up my computer in the vm you will be able to install its goodness
[12:38] <unix> ok
[12:41] <unix> thanks action parsip
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> unix: np man
[12:44] <bentob0x> appart from kopete, is there any other major issues with 4.2beta 1?
[12:44] <bentob0x> and even that, maybe there is a small patch for kopete yet?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> bentob0x: i dont use either
[12:53] <mefisto__> are there any text editors in official repos geared for web/html work? what I'd like especially is code completion and end tag completion
[12:54] <Pici> !html | mefisto__
[12:55] <Pici> I'm sure at least one of those has end-tag completion, not sure about regular code completion stuff though.
[12:57] <sixty8k> mefisto__: of those, Quanta+ does pretty much what you want and much more.
[12:57] <mefisto__> thanks Pici
[12:57] <sixty8k> But there is no KDE4 version yet..
[13:02] <mefisto__> sixty8k: there is a quanta-kde4 package
[13:05] <Mamarok> hm, there are dependency problems in the 4.2 beta:
[13:05] <Mamarok> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepimlibs5_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libakonadi-kabc.so.4', which is also in package akonadi-kde
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: you could force it but its risky
[13:06] <rodrigo> oi
[13:06] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip1: tried to force, no result
[13:06] <rodrigo> alguem por ai ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: try deleting the deb at fault then using apt-get with force
[13:09] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip1: doesn't work, as I said before, it gives me a list of like 30 other dependencies and stops
[13:09] <Mamarok> oh, you mean, deleting kdepimlibs5?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: you could uninstall the lib, yes
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> then the install will be ok
[13:11] <janorcutt> english rodrigo
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: if its still no good, you can reinstall it
[13:11] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok:  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepimlibs5_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.de
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> then sudo apt-get install -f
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> Thanks for the report
[13:13] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: works now, at least it continues
[13:14] <Mamarok> hm, I talked a bit fast, same problem again, this time with kalzium
[13:14] <Mamarok> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kalgebra_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libcompoundviewer.so.4.2.0', which is also in package kalzium
[13:15] <JontheEchidna> trying to overwrite a package which is in the same package o.O
[13:15]  * Mamarok forces overwriting
[13:15] <JontheEchidna> *file which is in the same package
[13:15]  * JontheEchidna doesn't get that
[13:16] <Mamarok> well, if I'll have that every 3 packages, I will never get around before Jaunty :-/
[13:16] <JontheEchidna> there shouldn't be too many like that. We did so a bit of testing :P
[13:16] <JontheEchidna> so -> do
[13:18] <Mamarok> hm, seems to run smoother now
[13:18] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: thx :)
[13:19] <Mamarok> Oo, three other ones:
[13:20]  * JontheEchidna prepares a fix for kdepimlibs for the ppa
[13:20] <Mamarok> kde-icons-oxygen_4, kdesdk-dev_4, kdebase-workspace-data_4
[13:20] <Mamarok> same problem, can't overwrite files
[13:21] <JontheEchidna> in what packages are each of them trying to overwrite files in?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: bet you are loving bettering kde :)
[13:22] <mefisto__> quanta is going to make my life a little easier. thanks sixty8k
[13:22] <Joseph_K> How do I enable an Intel 3945 ABG wireless device?
[13:22] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : Hello, This is thinkminus...We had a chat about half an hour ago
[13:22] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip1: I love KDE, that does the trick :)
[13:23] <sam38> I am trying to make internet up and running at my friend's house
[13:23]  * Mamarok was a very early adopter of KDE 4
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: sup
[13:23] <sam38> I tried ifconfig and the out put is : nk encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:4d:af:7e:46
[13:23] <sam38>           inet6 addr: fe80::21a:4dff:feaf:7e46/64 Scope:Link
[13:23] <sam38>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:23] <sam38>           RX packets:101 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:23] <sam38>           TX packets:98 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:23] <sam38>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[13:23] <sam38>           RX bytes:6580 (6.5 KB)  TX bytes:6068 (6.0 KB)
[13:23] <sam38>           Interrupt:21 Base address:0x8000
[13:23] <sam38> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[13:23] <sam38>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[13:23] <sam38>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[13:23] <sam38>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[13:23] <sam38>           RX packets:228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:23] <sam38>           TX packets:228 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: i love kde too, its all ive used and it works so i'm sticking with it
[13:24] <sam38>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[13:24] <sam38>           RX bytes:16872 (16.8 KB)  TX bytes:16872 (16.8 KB)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: please dont flood. use pastebin
[13:24] <sam38> ok
[13:24] <sam38> OOOPS I forgot SORRY
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> its completly unreadable and scrolls everyones client, imagine if 5 peopl did the same
[13:24] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: I reloaded the packages, then apt-get install -f, runs for now, but there are 200+, I'll report back
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | sam38
[13:25] <DaSkreech> Mamarok: KDe 4.2 Beat 1 ?
[13:26] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/80318/
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: better, ok wassup?
[13:27] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: beta 1, yes
[13:28] <sam38> Actionparsnip1 :The internet is not running....If I try pinging www.google.com OR router OR some IP address I get "network is unreachable"
[13:28] <sam38> I had manually entered my IP address, DNS, mask etc.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: ok are you connecting wired or wireless?
[13:28] <sam38> wired
[13:28] <sam38> ADSL 2+ router
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: ok so if you use static ip does it work?
[13:29] <sam38> Nope
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: is the cable between the systemsplugged in fully and is the activity light on when it clicks in
[13:31] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : internet is working under XP and with same connection IP settings.
[13:31] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 ": Although Activity LED is not flashing in Kubuntu
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: can i have a pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces please
[13:31] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80324/
[13:31] <Mamarok> another series of overwriting problems
[13:32] <sam38> ActionParsnip1: ok...just a minute please
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: kde-icons oxygen trying to overwrite koffice is known. Somebody'll have to update the koffice package and put it in the k-e ppa I guess
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> gonna have to talk to Riddell about the pkg-kde-tools one, since he knows that better than I
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> kjots is very solvable though
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> unfortunately kdepim takes like 2 hours to build on the build servers, lol
[13:36] <Mamarok> np, I can wait :)
[13:36]  * Mamarok is at home with sort of flu and has plenty of time
[13:36] <DaSkreech> \o/
[13:36]  * DaSkreech hugs Mamarok
[13:37] <Mamarok> DaSkreech: thx :)
[13:37] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : Here are contents of /etc/network/interfaces  :    http://paste.ubuntu.com/80328/
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: is theis a usb modem type afair?
[13:41] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : Nope...It is connected to ethernet port
[13:41] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Found a few bugs in 4.2 already
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: ok well eth0 is set to static ip at the moment
[13:42] <sam38> yes
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: but with no configuration for ip addresses
[13:43] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : No...I set it's IP address
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> with some gui app?
[13:44] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : yes...
[13:44] <sam38> GUI app That came with Kubunutu 8.10
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: try adding lines like these to your interfaces file for eth0:
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> http://pastebin.com/f44c9f6c4
[13:45] <umarzuki> hi all
[13:45] <umarzuki> i got problem hearing sound
[13:45] <umarzuki> already tried alternating between alsa and oss
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> !sound | umarzuki
[13:46] <umarzuki> even konqueror doesn't seem to work
[13:46] <jaaroo> hi there. I've upgraded to intrepid and in Konsole the choice of fonts is really very narrow. Why is that I can't choose Bitstream Vera Sans Mono though it is installed on my machine?
[13:46] <umarzuki> i'm using 8.0.4
[13:46] <sam38> ActionParsnip1 : Where will I find interfaces file for eth0?
[13:47] <sam38> I must mention that I am a linux newbie
[13:47] <umarzuki> sam38, what do you want to do with that?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: look at your interfaces file, you have a line that says iface eth0 inet manual
[13:47] <lokai> hey is there a way to make a PDF take up less disk space? I'm not talking about compressing with gzip or the like
[13:48] <umarzuki> sam38: /etc/network/interfaces
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: if under that you add lines like the ones in the pastebin I gave, you can set the ip there
[13:48] <jaaroo> sam38: in ol' good days it was in /etc/network/interface though i suppose this is not compatible with knetworkmanager
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: you'll need to use: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces to edit it
[13:49] <ActionParsnip1> sam38: just change the adressing to match your own subnet (if its different)
[13:49] <umarzuki> jaaroo: any idea why konqurer doesn't work as internet browser but i can use kopete?
[13:49] <umarzuki> anyone?
[13:49] <jaaroo> umarzuki: anything
[13:52] <sam388> ActionParsnip1 : Hi I am back...I am sam38...
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> umarzuki: do you have any firewall rules configured?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: hi
[13:52] <sam388> I would just like to ask where is inerface file for eth0 located
[13:52] <umarzuki> ActionParsnip1: no, just installed with wubi
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> umarzuki: oh then ive noo idea. if you restart networking does it work?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: i already told you.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[13:54] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: where eth0 is defined, add the lines from mine to specify the ip address
[13:54] <sam388> ok
[13:54] <umarzuki> ActionParsnip1: /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: once its all added, save and exit then run what umarzuki sayd
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> umarzuki: ty man
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> umarzuki: yes thats the command to restart networking
[13:55] <sam388> ok
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> umarzuki: you'll need sudo
[13:57] <umarzuki> did that but it's weird that konqueror is still like that
[13:57] <umarzuki> never had this problem before
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> umarzuki: i dont use koonqueror so i cant clarify it
[13:57] <umarzuki> i just downloaded codecs for kafeine just now
[13:57] <umarzuki> ok, i'll try firefox
[13:58] <sam388> ActionParsnip1 : Can you please upload the contents of the file (you told) : http://pastebin.com/f44c9f6c4 to some other paste bin ...I cannot access pastebin.com server now from my country
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> yeah its down
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> gimme a sec
[13:59] <sam388> ok
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80335/
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> sam388: ignore the last 2 lines, putty has weird controls
[14:05] <chris__> hello
[14:05] <DaSkreech> !hi
[14:05] <chris__> thank you
[14:06] <chris__> am clad to be here
[14:08] <Kemco> i like to know how to install pool games in by linux laptop, can anyone help me please??
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> Kemco:  sudo apt-get install foobillard
[14:12] <Kemco> thanks
[14:12] <Kemco> let me try
[14:14] <Kemco> Actionparsnip1: am downloading now, i love linux men, am still newbies that is why am asking
[14:14] <DaSkreech> Welcome!!
[14:14] <DaSkreech> Glad to have you
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> Kemco: you'll learn
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> Kemco: in that package i think theirs also a monkyball madness equiv using the same engine
[14:16] <Kemco> how do i get that too
[14:16] <Kemco> ?
[14:16] <DaSkreech> oooooooooooooooooooh Monkey ball!!!
[14:17] <Kemco> daskreech : is it pool game too or another game
[14:18] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: running 4.2 beta now
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> whee~!
[14:18] <Mamarok> Konsole loads with zero tabs
[14:18] <Mamarok> one has to add a tab to be able to use
[14:18] <DaSkreech> http://www.sega.com/smba/
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> yeah, it did that for the first start and then crashed
[14:18] <DaSkreech> Kemco: ^^^
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> when I tried to close it
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> but after that everything was ok
[14:19] <DaSkreech> Kemco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Monkey_Ball
[14:20] <Mamarok> shiny, my pixel errors in the system tray ar gone
[14:20] <Kemco> Daskreech thanks for the link
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> Kemco: its both games I believe
[14:20] <JontheEchidna> They also have a multirow task manager too
[14:21] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Is Quicksand going to be packaged?
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> DaSkreech: isn't it already?
[14:22] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Didn't check
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> alt f2 -> configuration wrench -> user interface tab
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> task oriented = quicksand
[14:22] <DaSkreech> Droooooool
[14:23] <Mamarok> and Akonadi keeps crashing, will have to install the debug packages to get a backtrace
[14:25] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Do you know if I can type someone's name and get the option to IM them?
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> dunno
[14:30] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Hmm The externders eem a bit funky
[14:30] <JontheEchidna> yeah, needs polishing
[14:31] <DaSkreech> I dragged off a progress bar and it stuck to the dashboard
[14:31] <DaSkreech> now if I do anything to it Plasma crashes
[14:31] <JontheEchidna> o.O
[14:31] <DaSkreech> I did the same with a user logging in and it stuck to the dashboard but I couldn't interact with it
[14:31] <DaSkreech> I got rid of it after a while
[14:32] <DaSkreech> I have an issue with Present windows but I guess that's easily bugged
[14:32] <DaSkreech> The coverswitch is a bit more difficult
[14:32] <DaSkreech> it randomly disappears though it's still working
[14:35] <khaotik> i am having trouble getting my widgets to stay where i would like them on my panel. could anyone help me with this?
[14:41] <Kemco> how can i install driving simulator (car) in linux
[14:42] <Kemco> can anyone help new am new with linux
[14:42] <Kemco> am using ubuntu
[14:42] <DaSkreech> Kemco: Try Vdrift
[14:42] <DaSkreech> !info vdrift
[14:42] <DaSkreech> hmm
[14:43] <Kemco> so how do i get it vdrift installed
[14:43] <DaSkreech> I thought it was in the repos Apparently I was wrong
[14:44] <khaotik> could anyone help me with getting my panel fixed? everytime i try to place my widgets in a certain place and lock them to panel, whenever i reboot they get scattered all over the place and i dont evven have a window switcher
[14:44] <DaSkreech> Kemco: Try torcs
[14:44] <DaSkreech> khaotik: set everything the way you want then in konsole type kquitapp plasma ; plasma
[14:44] <DaSkreech> That should force a writeout of the config
[14:45] <khaotik> thats the problem. my clock it wont let me set all the way to right anymore. everytime i put it there it just centers it up. i think i have tried everything i know.
[14:46] <khaotik> it wont let me place them where i want them at all
[14:51] <xp-killer> i conected my pc to my flat screen how do i put my pc to 16:9?
[14:52] <DaSkreech> khaotik: Do you have the panel in center mode?
[14:53] <khaotik> no i have tried it in all three. whenever i click on the clock to move it has a shaded area of where i can move it and it just puts it in the center
[14:54] <DaSkreech> khaotik: I have it alll the way over <----------- there now
[14:54] <DaSkreech> khaotik: Course I'm in KDE 4.2 so ....
[14:55] <xp-killer> i conected my pc to my flat screen tv how do i put my pc to 16:9 to play it on full screen on my tv?
[14:56] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Change the resolution ?
[14:57] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: where?i dont see no option for 16:9 i only see for screen size
[14:57] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: unless i have to restart the pc so it can detect the screen size cause i just buy the cable n plug it in like that
[14:58] <DaSkreech> xp-killer: Linux is strange with stuff like that
[14:58] <xp-killer> DaSkreech: im going to restart
[15:01] <donavan> anyone want to give me a giant silver spoon (or smack on the head) on how to setup dual head video on ati with different screen resolutions?
[15:02] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[15:02] <donavan> I'm on intrepid
[15:03] <xp-killer> Daisuke_Ido: ok now is full screen i just had to restart it cause it was set for a none 16:9 screen so it detected in on a 16:9 so it fix it self
[15:26] <DaSkreech> !find stdio.h
[15:38] <cracksmoke> hey thinking of using kubuntu
[15:38] <cracksmoke> what u girls think?
[15:39] <cracksmoke> hi girls
[15:41] <sigma20> do i have to update my base installation before installing the 4.2 beta?
[15:42] <sigma20> and are there no 4.2 plasmoids available at all?
[15:42] <reijimaigo> ei
[15:42] <zauwn> !pt
[15:42] <JontheEchidna> sigma20: there are lots of  plasmoids for KDE 4.2
[15:42] <JontheEchidna> it's just a few like the quickaccess plasmoid that haven't been ported yet
[15:43] <reijimaigo> why my display is blinking in every 5 second???
[15:43] <reijimaigo> i use kde
[15:44] <reijimaigo> wen i using kde
[15:44] <sigma20> rats thats the one i need the most!
[15:44] <reijimaigo> T_T
[15:44] <reijimaigo> ako pa ngayun ung daga
[15:45] <ephoenix> hey everyone
[15:45] <DaSkreech> sigma20: Huh? What do you mean there are no 4.2 plasmlids?
[15:45] <mahdi> hi
[15:45] <DaSkreech> reijimaigo: Drivers maybe
[15:45] <sigma20> JontheEchidna: so is it really necessary to upgrade my base intrepid system before i install the 4.2 beta?
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> sigma20: your intrepid system will be upgraded if you upgrade to KDE 4.2, unless you use pinning or something
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> reijimaigo: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/
[15:46] <reijimaigo> T_T i think.... my video driver is a problem
[15:48] <sigma20> JontheEchidna: well if i dont update intrepid apt says the update will be 106mb and not 278mb. quite a difference on my side. so was just wondering if its really necessary to do the total upgrade
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> sigma20: you'll need to update the strigi, phonon and soprano related packages
[15:49] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna: but i don't have agp slot... im using vga display
[15:49] <reijimaigo> T_T
[15:49] <genii> Hm
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> reijimaigo: the solution should work for you, just disable the service mentioned
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> the randr one
[15:50] <sigma20> best i just hand around till the final or jaunty. thats way too much bandwidth for me to use!
[15:50] <sigma20> thanks for the help
[15:51] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna : but how??? can u guide me...
[15:52] <JontheEchidna> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> service manager
[15:52] <ephoenix> hi, I just install kde 4.2 beta. And notice I dont see all the images but I see the text. Is anyone having the same problem?
[15:53] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna : ok w8
[15:56] <nixternal> nice, a doors tribute there Mojo_risin :)
[15:56] <Mojo_risin> nixternal: true :)
[15:56]  * DaSkreech pokes nixternal with the pointy stick of NoticeMe!
[15:57]  * nixternal truns away and walks for the door
[15:57] <Mojo_risin> I'm having some errors when upgrading to 4.2 beta1, anyone with the same problem?
[15:57] <DaSkreech> nixternal: planning on Kamping with us?
[15:57] <DaSkreech> Mojo_risin: No idea if we don't know the errors
[15:57] <nixternal> trying to
[15:57] <DaSkreech> whooot
[15:59] <ephoenix> Mojo: me too
[16:07] <ubuzztu> hello
[16:07] <ubuzztu> i installed kubuntu 7.10 via wubi
[16:07] <ephoenix> hi
[16:07] <ubuzztu> now can't get rid of it
[16:08] <ubuzztu> I did an uninstall via xp add/remove
[16:08] <ubuzztu> it is no longer in add/remove but i can still boot into it
[16:09] <ubuzztu> i do not see any wubi directories in xp
[16:09] <PSiL0> hmm, due to the idle bug in ubuntu, my /var/log partition (1gig) filled up rather quickly
[16:10] <PSiL0> I deleted the large logs that took up the space and rebooted
[16:10] <PSiL0> however, /var/log is still full
[16:10] <PSiL0> any suggestions?
[16:10] <reijimaigo> huhu not working
[16:10] <reijimaigo> it the same
[16:10] <reijimaigo> blinking my display in KDE
[16:10] <reijimaigo> what can i do
[16:10] <reijimaigo> ???
[16:10] <reijimaigo> T_T
[16:12] <reijimaigo> sudo apt-get install kubundu-desktop
[16:12] <reijimaigo> ^_^
[16:13] <PSiL0> in sudo dolphin, /var/log takes up 16.3Mb, but the partition still says 0 out of 963Mb available
[16:14] <PSiL0> what gives?
[16:15] <ephoenix> PSiL0: do a 'apt-get clean all'
[16:16] <ephoenix> PSiL0: do a 'sudo apt-get clean all'
[16:17] <Mojo_risin> DaSkreech: http://rafb.net/p/GtpBx468.html
[16:18] <olivier^_^> Hi, I compiled vlc 0.9.5 and installed it
[16:18] <Mojo_risin> here are the error when upgrading to 4.2: http://rafb.net/p/GtpBx468.html
[16:18] <olivier^_^> How do I uninstall it?? I tried sudo make -uninstall ...nothing
[16:18] <reijimaigo> nothing at all
[16:19] <PSiL0> i'll try
[16:19] <PSiL0> ephoenix: i'll try
[16:19] <reijimaigo> example to unstall: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[16:19] <JontheEchidna> Mojo_risin: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/pkg-kde-tools_0.2ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1_all.deb
[16:20] <PSiL0> apparently, the idle bug has been reported (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/286285)
[16:20] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna ;blinking my display in KDE what can i do????
[16:20] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna ;blinking my display in KDE what can i do????
[16:20] <JontheEchidna> go to that place in systemsettings and turn the randr service off
[16:21] <PSiL0> ephoenix: no beans with apt-get
[16:21] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidnabut where in system setings
[16:22] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna : randr service off where can i found??
[16:22] <ephoenix> PSiL0: ok, there is something else, that me think
[16:23] <PSiL0> ephoenix:  thanks.. I'm also going to rattle off a post in kubuntuforms..
[16:23] <reijimaigo> JontheEchidna : randr service off where can i found??
[16:24] <PSiL0> weird how after deleting something to clear up space in the /var/log partition, the partition still says that the partition is full
[16:24] <PSiL0> i expressly partitioned my setup to avoid huge log files dragging "/" down
[16:25] <reijimaigo> T_T
[16:25] <reijimaigo> using C++ and assembly
[16:25] <ephoenix> PSiL0: what happen when you did apt-get clean all?
[16:25] <reijimaigo> T_T
[16:26] <reijimaigo> i have ni idea
[16:26] <reijimaigo> to
[16:26] <reijimaigo> resolv
[16:26] <reijimaigo> my
[16:26] <reijimaigo> problem
[16:26] <PSiL0> ephoenix: nothing happened in /var/log
[16:26] <snakeface> whats the weather plasmoid called and how do i get it?
[16:26] <genii> !enter | reijimaigo
[16:26] <PSiL0> still says 16.3Mb used in the dialog box, and then 0 out of 963Mb available..
[16:26] <reijimaigo> ok
[16:27] <snakeface> enter as punctuation.
[16:27] <snakeface> interesting
[16:27] <snakeface> wording
[16:27] <PSiL0> it is on a partition dedicated for /var/log
[16:27] <snakeface> there
[16:27] <reijimaigo> hehehe
[16:27] <reijimaigo> sorry
[16:27] <genii> snakeface: Please, don't encourage :)
[16:27] <snakeface> k
[16:28] <snakeface> seruously though can the weather plasmoid just be installed through adept or is it a hassle?
[16:29] <reijimaigo> running the windows program in ubundu linux.... using wine...
[16:29] <reijimaigo> but not all program
[16:30] <genii> reijimaigo: There is a list of programs on the wine website, it is called appdb. It tells how well or not things may work
[16:30] <genii> !appdb | reijimaigo
[16:31] <PSiL0> ephoenix: found it
[16:31] <reijimaigo> genii & ubottu : thanks ^^
[16:32] <Mojo_risin> JontheEchidna: it worked, thanks!
[16:32] <PSiL0> apparently, when trying to delete the abberrent log files, the system moved another copy to a hidden directory in /var/log
[16:32] <PSiL0> in /var/log/.Trash-0
[16:32] <ephoenix> PSiL0: great, wow
[16:33] <ephoenix> PSiL0: Is most of the things cleared
[16:33] <PSiL0> ephoenix: now 863Mb free
[16:33] <PSiL0> whew
[16:33] <edju> In order to use gtkpod w/ an iPod nano, I have to format it to fat32.  I fired up gparted, but it reports that the nano is 900some MB, when it's an 8GB model.  How to format this thing?
[16:34] <PSiL0> ephoenix: shift+del did the trick
[16:36] <ephoenix> PSiL0:great, how you found out
[16:36] <antonio_> #ubuntu-es
[16:37] <PSiL0> ephoenix: well, something else is taking up 120Mb in there... bah I'll leave it for another day
[16:37] <PSiL0> ephoenix: thanks man
[16:37] <ephoenix> PSiL0:no problem
[16:38] <wesley__> kde4.2 looks much better :)
[16:39] <snakeface> i am still having corruption with my graphics, if anyone wants to help install these drivers, i am at a loss.
[16:39] <ephoenix> I still have issues with seeing icons with kde 4.2
[16:40] <ephoenix> snakeface what kind of graphic card you using?
[16:40] <reijimaigo> i have problem in my driver....
[16:40] <wesley__> in kde-neon the menu is corrupt
[16:41] <reijimaigo> my display is corruption...
[16:41] <reijimaigo> my display is corrupting...
[16:41] <wesley__> apachelogger thanks for packing kde4.2
[16:42] <ephoenix> reij and westle: you both just upgrade to kde 4.2
[16:42] <snakeface> ephoenix intel onboard 865g
[16:43] <dirtbag666> hi there
[16:43] <snakeface> hullo
[16:43] <ephoenix> hey
[16:44] <reijimaigo> When I experienced this problem, I was also unable to use the mouse. I rebooted, and logged back into the Ubuntu desktop instead of KDE, and went into the /etc/X11/ directory.
[16:44] <reijimaigo> You will probably see that your xorg.conf file was backed up to xorg.conf.1 during the KDE / Kubuntu installation. Just copy the xorg.conf.1 back to xorg.conf, reboot, and everything should be fine.
[16:44] <reijimaigo> Again, don't mess with the xorg.conf file unless you are actually experiencing this problem.
[16:44] <reijimaigo> Note: If you are running Ubuntu inside VMware and end up with some really strange display issues where the display resolution is really huge but the desktop is showing up in 800×600 instead (see screenshot), there is a fix for this.
[16:45] <dirtbag666> TERRIBLE sound problem with Kubuntu 8.04: Everytime I mute or unmute sound output (same problem with laptop speakers AND external sound devices) there is a very loud "plop" noise as if I pulled the connection cable for my external speakers. Any idea anyone?
[16:45] <reijimaigo> Note: If you are running Ubuntu inside VMware and end up with some really strange display issues where the display resolution is really huge but the desktop is showing up in 800×600 instead (see screenshot), there is a fix for this.
[16:45] <snakeface> ephoenix: the graphics look corrupted.  you know like a distorted television.  only for a second when they are loading.
[16:45] <reijimaigo> driver problem
[16:45] <reijimaigo> snakeface : it the same from me
[16:45] <reijimaigo> hehehe
[16:46] <reijimaigo> snakeface : it the same fom me
[16:46] <snakeface> reijimaigo i assume it is a driver problem
[16:46] <ephoenix> now this just happen when upgrading to kde 4.2
[16:46] <LinuxApe> since upgrading to intrepid by cd/dvd burner doesn't recognize any media. Any suggestions?
[16:47] <snakeface> LinuxApe: there were probably issues with the upgrade.  i had to do a clean install of intrepid to get everything to work
[16:49] <reijimaigo> snakeface : right!!!!... it is a driver problem.... i don't know how to fix this problem....
[16:52] <LinuxApe> snakeface:  Funny thing is, I burned a cd with no problem, had to reboot for some reason (new linux image I think) - hasn't worked since.  blank or recorded dvd's or cd's
[16:52] <delicowa> reijimaigo try search the repos for th driver or upgrade to a more recent kernel.................................at least it helped me....since i upgraded to 2.6.27-7 my wireless LED comes on and i now have direct rendering on INTEL 945GME graphics card
[16:53] <reijimaigo> ok
[16:53] <reijimaigo> i try
[16:57] <reijimaigo> nothing happen...
[17:05] <dirtbag666> any idea for my pop noise problem?
[17:05] <DeadTreeHugger> hi, anybody who's upgraded to kde 4.2 beta 1 found that kopete's MSN backend is no longer available?
[17:05] <DeadTreeHugger> just wanted to know if it's specific to me only
[17:12] <blip-> hi,  for some reason i just logged onto my laptop and there is no sound.  i maxed out alsamixer, kmix and restarted ALSA system as well as maxed out Amarok.... but no sound is coming out from the speakers or via headphones... i didn't do anything or install anything for the sound.
[17:14] <rodrigo> ola
[17:15] <rodrigo> alguem do brasil por aqui ?
[17:16] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: For me kopete does not work at all. Can you start it and open the preference dialog? I get "undefined symbols" from the icq and jabber plugins immediately
[17:16] <squid0> hi there. where can I find a list of known bugs for kubuntu 4.2 beta 1?
[17:17] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: well, i'm running it fine
[17:18]  * Waaj has to go, bbl
[17:18] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Crap. Anyway, I think I saw a "MS Live Messenger" option in the account creation dialog. Could this be the old MSN stuff?
[17:18] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: i can login to Jabber/Gtalk and chat fine... MSN, however, is completely missing...
[17:19] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: even my MSN profile that i had previously configured has gone missing
[17:20] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: my version of Kopete is 0.60.81, does it match with yours?
[17:21] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Nope: 4:4.1.80-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1#
[17:21] <JavaJim> Oh
[17:21] <JavaJim> Ok, now I see. :)
[17:21] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Version 0.60.1
[17:22] <JavaJim> Hmm...
[17:22] <LinuxApe> Anyone else have a flaky panel?  I think it only happens if I lock the widgets.  Things start disappearing and flickering....
[17:22] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Did you install kopete alone or is yours included in kdenetwork?
[17:22] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: i didn't install anything separately...
[17:23] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: but i had some dependency conflicts
[17:24] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Can you a "dpkg -S /usr/bin/kopete"?
[17:25] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: n when i ran "dpkg -f" or something to that effect, it removed my entire kubuntu-desktop
[17:26] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: kopete: /usr/bin/kopete
[17:26] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: dpkg -l | grep kopete?
[17:27] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: so after kubuntu-desktop was removed, i installed it again, n i had a working 4.2... could be traumatic for someone who didn't know better :P
[17:27] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: ii  kopete                                    4:4.1.80-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1            instant messenger for KDE 4
[17:28] <rodrigo> boa tarde
[17:28] <rodrigo> alguem do brasil ....
[17:28] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Same here and yet I have Kopete 0.60.1 while you have 0.60.81? Can you doublecheck the version?
[17:28] <DeadTreeHugger> yeah, double checked...
[17:30] <rodrigo> i form brazil ...
[17:30] <rodrigo> whats ... distro for linux . in saude .
[17:31] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: ARGH... I have a kopete in /usr/local/bin. :-/
[17:31] <bazhang> !br
[17:31] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger:  Must be from previous experiments with kde4-svn.
[17:31] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: heh...
[17:32] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Sorry for wasting your time. :)
[17:32] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: no probs :)
[17:32] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: glad to hv helped...
[17:32] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: question though, are u able to keep digikam installed (if u hv it installed) without any conflicts?
[17:32] <ubuntoil> if I do something like sudo apt-get distupgrade, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop. Is it risky ??
[17:33] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: No, I removed it during the update due to conflicts
[17:33] <stdin> !puregnome
[17:33] <DeadTreeHugger> JavaJim: yeah, i got that too... sucks... i use digikam a lot
[17:34] <stdin> ubuntoil: have a look at that ^
[17:34] <ubuntoil> stdin: thx
[17:34] <joachim> hallo!
[17:35] <komuta> hi
[17:35] <komuta> I have a question regarding strigi and krunner
[17:36] <ubuntoil> stdin: no offense but, how reliable is this...??
[17:37] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: Kopete is working again. Can't believe it took me so long to figure this out... :)
[17:37] <DeadTreeHugger> haha...
[17:38] <DeadTreeHugger> "which kopete" wld've been handy :)
[17:38] <stdin> ubuntoil: it's the recommended way, that's why it's in the bot
[17:38] <JavaJim> DeadTreeHugger: It was... in the end.
[17:38] <ubuntoil> stdin: yes, you're right, sorry
[17:39] <ubuntoil> stdin: can I do a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then lauch this command in a console mode ?
[17:40] <ubuntoil> I mean the one for pure-ubuntu
[17:41] <stdin> ubuntoil: yeah, you should have ubuntu-desktop installed first
[17:41] <ubuntoil> stdin: great, thank you
[17:46] <Guest53907> HI KD4
[17:46] <Guest53907> KD5 DGF
[17:47] <rodrigo> i from brazil ..
[17:47] <Guest53907> I FORM SPAIN
[17:48] <rodrigo> alguem brasil ?
[17:48] <bazhang> !br | rodrigo
[17:59] <wesley__> kde4.2 looks fine, user friendly
[17:59] <wesley__> I like the blue oyxen
[18:00] <DeadTreeHugger> i'm a bit doubtful abt the cobalt blue they used for the panel background in KDE 4.2... I prefer the black used in 4.1...
[18:00] <RoccoLord> has someone a deb for libmsn for 4.2 beta1?
[18:03] <wesley__> I think the style is better and the blue looks nicer, the black is kind off done, but it still would be nice if it would be the same setting
[18:03] <dougl> is there a way to configure the task bar in kde to look/feel more like a mac?
[18:03] <wesley__> in kde3 there is in baghira, but why would you want that
[18:04] <dougl> wesley__, I like the auto hide and magnification on hover
[18:04] <wesley__> you mean in kde4 ?
[18:05] <dougl> wesley__, yes
[18:05] <wesley__> hmmm doesnt work that well
[18:05] <dougl> on kubuntu 8.10
[18:06] <wesley__> systembar does show first its icons when it comes back up
[18:08] <wesley__> they said dont report bugs
[18:12] <wesley__> DeadTreeHugger there is a option to config the panel
[18:13] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: i'm sure there is... it was just a comment on the default look, that's all...
[18:14] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: but everything sure looks a heckuva lot better than 4.1
[18:14] <isaacj87> Thanks JontheEchidna, NCommander, vorian, apachelogger for packaging KDE 4.2 beta 1 for us! I really appreciate it :)
[18:14] <wesley__> yeah it does, but i must admit looks a bit like vista
[18:14] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: even performance seems to be slightly better...
[18:15] <wesley__> yeah indeed, but its the looks what mathers performance isnt the problen
[18:15] <JontheEchidna> isaacj87: :)
[18:16] <isaacj87> Any one know where I can download the original Oxygen panel background file? The one found in 4.1?
[18:16] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: my X3100's performance is totally crippled on current Intel drivers (getting 80-100 fpx on glxgears running in maximised mode)... enabling desktop fx is impossible...
[18:17] <wesley__> i have also intel x3100 works fine
[18:17] <wesley__> can enable desktop effects and all
[18:17] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: yet, in 4.2, enabling desktop fx is at least bearable...
[18:17] <wesley__> yes indeed
[18:17] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__; oh? that's interesting... there may be hope for me yet :)
[18:18] <wesley__> never had problems with intel gmas
[18:19] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__; i thought all Intel users were faced with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/252094
[18:19] <isaacj87> wesley__: Sam here. Intel i915, pretty pathetic chipset and it chugs desktop effects along pretty nicely
[18:19] <isaacj87> wesley__: same*
[18:19] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__; what's your framerate like running glxgears in maximised mode?
[18:20] <wesley__> i dont know, only thing what mather is that it works
[18:21] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__; yeah well, but on my laptop currently, it's slow to the point of being counter-productive
[18:22] <DeadTreeHugger> my current laptop is abt 1 year old... core 2 duo system w 4GB RAM n Intel X3100 graphics
[18:22] <cannon> hi guys
[18:22] <DeadTreeHugger> i have another Compaq laptop which is about 5 years old... with an ATI Radeon Mobility card inside it
[18:22] <cannon> i've just installed kubuntu 8.10 and am having probs with my screen
[18:23] <wesley__> i really dont have problems with the x3100
[18:23] <cannon> fonts are all messed up
[18:23] <DeadTreeHugger> the old Compaq runs desktop effects abt 3 times faster than my current one
[18:23] <cannon> even with a higher size they are hard to read
[18:23] <cannon> how do I update my graphics driver?
[18:23] <dougl> cannon, what video card do you have?
[18:23] <wesley__> but if there are problems it bet with in a few years they fix it
[18:24] <cannon> GTS 8800 dougl
[18:24] <dougl> cannon, that is nvidia?
[18:24] <cannon> yup
[18:25] <cannon> thanks
[18:25] <cannon> how do I run this dougl?
[18:26] <edju> In order to use gtkpod w/ an iPod nano, I have to format it to fat32.  I fired up gparted, but it reports that the nano is 900some MB, when it's an 8GB model.  How to format this thing?
[18:26] <dougl> "sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run" when x is not running
[18:26] <wesley__> kde4.2 brings use cool new arcade games
[18:26] <cannon> hmmm, it's stuck on 0% lol
[18:26] <HappySmileMan> cannon: I'm running latest NVidia driver for my card and fonts on some programs (esp. those running in Wine or those using foreign character sets) are messed up completely, might be a case of waiting for NVidia to fix it :(
[18:27] <isaacj87> wesley__: does it really? I need to install the game package now :)
[18:27] <wesley__> edju i just did set a Windows on my system for the iphone
[18:27] <wesley__> yes like Bomber, i like the games very much
[18:27] <cannon> yeah, but even the desktop it's messed up
[18:27] <cannon> and Konversatio
[18:27] <HappySmileMan> Are there any non-nightly packages for 4.2Beta?
[18:27] <cannon> which is the default irc app
[18:27] <wesley__> they have pacman clone
[18:28] <isaacj87> HappySmileMan: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[18:28] <isaacj87> HappySmileMan: oops...not hat one
[18:28] <dougl> cannon, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[18:28] <HappySmileMan> Oh wait, I see the announcement now on Kubuntu site
[18:28] <isaacj87> HappySmileMan: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[18:28] <HappySmileMan> I thought I had it in Akregator
[18:28] <HappySmileMan> Apparently not
[18:28] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: would you mind running glxgears in maximized mode n telling me ur framerates? just to satisfy my curiousity n to provide me with more input to find out what problem i have in my setup?
[18:29] <cannon> nooooooooooooo! :( just reading is giving me a head ache! :'(
[18:30] <wesley__> do i need to instaal it?
[18:30] <isaacj87> wesley__: no, just open up a terminal and run glxgears
[18:30] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: no need... just open up "konsole", then enter the command "glxgears" in konsole...
[18:31] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: a small window with some moving gears will appear... maximize the window n wait for approx 15-20 seconds
[18:31] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: then close the window
[18:31] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: go back to konsole n u'll see some reports on the frame rates
[18:31] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: i just need that info
[18:33] <wesley__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80447/
[18:34] <cannon> how do you open a new server in Konversation?
[18:36] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: thanks!
[18:37] <wesley__> and do i have the bug to?
[18:38] <DeadTreeHugger> hmmm...
[18:38] <JohnFlux> cannon: File->server list   New
[18:39] <DeadTreeHugger> wesley__: did you have the glxgears window maximized all the time? 'cos I see markedly different rates
[18:39] <DeadTreeHugger> figures like 601.199 FPS wld be good if you are running in maximized mode
[18:39] <DeadTreeHugger> figures like 94.920 FPS wld be similar to mine
[18:39] <wesley__> no not all the time
[18:40] <DeadTreeHugger> k... well, i think yours and mine are about the same...
[18:40] <wesley__> but desktop effects runs fine
[18:40] <DeadTreeHugger> desktop effects will run on both our machines... but our tolerance levels may be different ;)
[18:41] <wesley__> yeah can be, it can always better, but how about the bug
[18:41] <DeadTreeHugger> it's not a bug per se...
[18:41] <DeadTreeHugger> Intel made some huge changes to their memory management model in their drivers... it's obviously not mature yet
[18:42] <DeadTreeHugger> it's just something that we have to wait for Intel to improve on over time
[18:43] <DeadTreeHugger> hopefully it won't take more than a year
[18:43] <wesley__> but in overal it seems okay
[18:45] <DeadTreeHugger> another possible reason is that i'm running 64-bit
[18:45] <DeadTreeHugger> i've heard some (unconfirmed) rumors that 64-bit drivers are not on par with 32-bit...
[18:45] <DeadTreeHugger> haven't been able to do an A/B test just yet
[18:45] <wesley__> i am running to 64bit
[18:45] <DeadTreeHugger> welllll............ :)
[18:46] <wesley__> but on 32 bit is not better i believe
[18:46] <DeadTreeHugger> then i think i just have higher expectations on performance than you do :)
[18:47] <wesley__> i think so but 64bit is faster then 32 bit
[18:47] <DeadTreeHugger> not necessarily... 64-bit just allows you to use more memory than 32-bit
[18:47] <DeadTreeHugger> so that you can run more applications at the same time w/o a performance hit
[18:48] <DeadTreeHugger> but at the same time, overheads are higher... so if you run just 1-2 applications, it may actually be slower
[18:49] <wesley__> i haved read than 32 bit is on 64 bit machines slower then it is on 32 bit
[18:50] <DeadTreeHugger> maybe, but i don't think it's a big difference... IMHO, i just think that you won't be maximizing the potential of your hardware, that's all
[18:51] <DeadTreeHugger> i use my laptop for Java development, which is very memory hungry, so i need as much as i can get
[18:51] <ibuffy> how to remove ubuntu-desktop and retain kubuntu?
[18:52] <DeadTreeHugger> running 64-bit is the only way i can use (on K/ubuntu) the full 4GB RAM that i've plugged into my laptop
[18:53] <DeadTreeHugger> ibuffy: try this? http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[18:53] <donavan> anyone with a working dual head xorg.conf on KDE with ATI Radeon X1300/X1550
[18:56] <wesley__> i only have 2 gb memory
[18:56] <cannon> hey guys, is there a screen capture app?
[18:56] <wesley__> yes ksnapshot
[18:57] <wesley__> but taskbar looks much better then in kde4.1
[18:58] <DeadTreeHugger> yeah, the taskbar borders are defined much more cleanly now
[18:58] <stoyan> здрасти
[18:58] <stoyan> Някой да говори български
[18:58] <stoyan> ????
[18:59] <LjL> !ru | stoyan
[18:59] <stoyan> спасиба
[19:00] <wesley__> maby the kde3 hardcore users will say the same
[19:03] <wesley__> but its just the beta
[19:04] <cannon> how do I check for updates?
[19:05] <wesley__> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:05] <isaacj87> cannon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:05] <wesley__> but first better run sudo apt-get update
[19:06] <cannon> whats the gui app for it isaacj87?
[19:06] <wesley__> adept or synaptic
[19:07] <boggystudios> how do I disable the login sound for kde 4.1?
[19:07] <ibuffy> thanks DeadTreeHugger, i was thinking that the psychocats materials wasn't being maintained
[19:08] <DeadTreeHugger> ibuffy: well, it did specifically mention "intrepid"... which is as updated as anybody can hope for :)
[19:08] <papa> nabend
[19:09] <brunito> ola
[19:09] <boggystudios> I can't seem to find that setting anywhere
[19:09] <papa> jemand da der mir helfen kann?wo meld eich mich als admin an bei kubu8.10
[19:09] <isaacj87> boggystudios: go into "System Settings" and then to "Notifications"
[19:09] <brunito> #es
[19:09] <brunito> !es
[19:09] <cannon> hey guys, how can I increase the font size after just installing 8.10?
[19:10] <cannon> like for menu's and stuff ... I can't read the text at all in adept
[19:10] <ibuffy> DeadTreeHugger: right, it's definitely updated, but i thought that had stopped maintaining the site a few versions ago
[19:10] <isaacj87> boggystudios: click the drop down menu and choose "KDE System Notifications" you'll find it there
[19:10] <wesley__> papa je kan sudo gebruiken
[19:11] <wesley__> papa admin is sudo
[19:11] <isaacj87> cannon: go into System Settings-> Appearance->Fonts
[19:11] <isaacj87> cannon: adjust them there
[19:11] <rodya_> Might anyone be able to help me? I'm trying to figure out if you all have found a workaround for firefox 3's ugly form widgets in kde4
[19:12] <boggystudios> isaacj87: thanks man, that sound was getting on my nerves
[19:12] <cannon> thanks for the response isaacj87, they are all showing as 9, but even that is waaay to small for me to read?
[19:12] <isaacj87> boggystudios: no prob :)
[19:13] <rodya_> I've used *u*buntu for over a year, but am just getting acquainted with kde4... so far it's amazing aside from this issue
[19:13] <dimitri_> hi, i have my pc plugged into my LCD TV's HDMI port, there is a picture, but its not 100% how would i fix the screen size?
[19:13] <dimitri_> i am guessing i have to use xrandr?
[19:14] <cannon> isaacj87: I have adjusted them all to 16, but I still cannot read text in adept installer
[19:16] <isaacj87> cannon: Hmm, my guess is you've only changed the fonts locally. You're going to have to run System Settings as root to adjust the system fonts
[19:16] <isaacj87> cannon: open up Konsole and type: kdesudo /usr/bin/systemsettings
[19:16] <cannon> how do I do that?
[19:16] <cannon> k
[19:17] <rodya_> so no dice on firefox? do you all use konqueror for browsing?
[19:17] <isaacj87> cannon: When it opens, go back to Appearance->Fonts and try changing them there
[19:21] <DeadTreeHugger> rodya_: firefox looks ugly over here as well... for that matter, so do the KDE3 apps...
[19:21] <rodya_> so this is still a bug on kde i take it
[19:22] <DeadTreeHugger> rodya_: welll... i wouldn't call it a high priority bug...
[19:22] <isaacj87> rodya_: only viable solution http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/
[19:23] <DeadTreeHugger> retro-fitting GTK to look like KDE is kinda pointless... it's hard to achieve 100% parity
[19:23] <rodya_> sigh... yeah me neither, I'd be happy with konqueror if it opened gmail
[19:23] <rodya_> but I can't make that happen
[19:24] <rodya_> not even with browser spoofing
[19:24] <rodrigo> internet explorer .. im linux ...
[19:24] <DeadTreeHugger> can't see how konqueror can achieve feature parity with firefox / safari in the near term...
[19:25] <isaacj87> DeadTreeHugger: Me neither, but it has come a long ways
[19:25] <rodya_> hm, it seems it's either gnome again, or opera on kde
[19:26] <wesley__> Firefox isnt intergrated konqueror is intergrated
[19:26] <DeadTreeHugger> in some ways, konqueror's better than any of its competition... i love the view profiles feature...
[19:26] <isaacj87> rodya_: was the link not useful? It does make Firefox look decent
[19:27] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[19:27] <contrast> Still no fix for Flash in Konqueror? I was just googling a bit and couldn't find anything.
[19:28] <wesley__> i did watch porn in it with flash sdo it should work
[19:28] <contrast> hmm... it still doesn't work here.
[19:29] <wesley__> did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:29] <contrast> yep
[19:30] <wesley__> does it work in firefox ?
[19:30] <contrast> yep... and it *is* loading in konqueror - right-clicking on where a video should be on youtube brings up the Flash context menu.
[19:30] <wesley__> ow strange
[19:30] <contrast> but there's just blank white space.
[19:31] <contrast> wesley__: you sure the video you were watching was flash-embedded?
[19:31] <Daskreech2> yeah that happens to me too but randomly it works in Konqueror
[19:32] <contrast> blarg
[19:32] <Daskreech2> I dunno. They are using some part of the Flash API that the mix of linux and Konqueror don't like
[19:32] <wesley__> contrast believe so but flash sometimes does strange
[19:32] <contrast> booyah - refreshed a few times and the video loaded
[19:33] <voicu> Hi, how do i stop the kernel from loading a module at boot time?
[19:33] <wesley__> restart konq
[19:33] <Daskreech2> contrast: Does the context menu have a Play option on it?
[19:33] <Daskreech2> !blacklist
[19:34] <DeadTreeHugger> isaacj87: ugh... after installing the kde4 firefox theme, firefox doesn't share KDE's font settings anymore
[19:34] <contrast> Daskreech2: no - it's just the generic flash menu you get whenever you right-click on any flash item.
[19:34] <isaacj87> DeadTreeHugger: yeah, the only problem with it.
[19:34] <DeadTreeHugger> n that's more important to me than widget alignments...
[19:34] <contrast> DeadTreeHugger: use qtcurve :)
[19:34] <Daskreech2> contrast: Right when mine stop loading I don't get a play option in the context menu anymore
[19:35] <voicu> daskreech2: i've tried the blacklist thing, it doesn't work. i'm using kubuntu 8.10 if it matters
[19:35] <contrast> ah well... at least wireless appears to be working better under intrepid
[19:36] <DeadTreeHugger> contrast: qtcurve? sorry, I don't get you...
[19:36] <contrast> !info qtcurve
[19:37] <contrast> *and* kde4 (could someone update that info? :D )
[19:37] <voicu> daskreech2: can the file in /etc/modprobe.d have any name? does modprobe check all files in there?
[19:37] <DeadTreeHugger> alright... will give that a try... just install qtcurve? any additional setup to be done?
[19:37] <Daskreech2> not that I know of
[19:38] <contrast> DeadTreeHugger: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-qtcurve kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig kde-style-qtcurve
[19:38] <Daskreech2> contrast: That's from the package itself, Email the maintainer
[19:38] <voicu> also, is it complicated to setup my computer to be a wifi hotspot?
[19:38] <contrast> Daskreech2: ahh, ok
[19:38] <master_> how can I redo dhcp on my ethernet cable?  I have only wireless..
[19:39] <contrast> DeadTreeHugger: then, of course, just change the styles for KDE apps and Gtk apps in System Settings. you may also want to install qt3-qtconfig so you can change the style for kde3 apps to it as well.
[19:39] <contrast> QtCurve: Best widget theme everrrr
[19:40] <DeadTreeHugger> contrast: thanks :)
[19:40] <master_> I guess I have to reboot... just to get my stupid networking to work...
[19:40] <contrast> np
[19:40] <contrast> master_: erm, probably not
[19:40] <eihnat> just installed kubuntu. how do i start compiz? i.e. wanna have cube etc.
[19:40] <Daskreech2> master_: No you don't
[19:40] <Daskreech2> eihnat: INstall KDE 4.2!!!
[19:40] <contrast> Daskreech2: -_~
[19:41] <contrast> 4.2 isn't ready for everyday use by any stretch
[19:41] <eihnat> contrast: so what would be recomendations then?
[19:41] <Daskreech2> contrast: You have been running it?
[19:42] <contrast> eihnat: sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported compizconfig-settings-manager fusion-icon compiz-kde
[19:42] <eihnat> contrast: sec
[19:42] <contrast> Daskreech2: yep, was just playing with it yesterday. it's nice, but i'd say there's still good reason for it being labeled alpha. :)
[19:42] <Daskreech2> Beta
[19:43] <contrast> ahh... well, feels like an alpha to me. lol
[19:43] <Daskreech2> Well Compiz is beta as well
[19:43] <contrast> the new changes are great though. 4.2 has me psyched for jaunty
[19:43] <contrast> true
[19:43] <Daskreech2> and we get bug reports for KDE 4,2 to make it better on launch
[19:43] <squid0> hi. how do I install google gadgest on 4.2 beta?
[19:44] <contrast> it pretty much never crashes for me though, and this is on several different systems
[19:44] <Daskreech2> squid0: Get the file and on the add wdgets dialog click install new widgets then browse to the file
[19:44] <contrast> compiz, i mean
[19:44] <squid0> Daskreech2: ok.
[19:44] <Daskreech2> I've had 4.2 crash on my a few times all the same reason and I know why it does it
[19:44] <Daskreech2> Which is close to the same thing :)
[19:44] <Daskreech2> Esp since I was playing around with it
[19:45] <contrast> hmm, didn't know that... can you install google gadgets as plasmoids in 4.1 as well?
[19:45] <Daskreech2> No 4.2
[19:45] <squid0> Daskreech2: it just offers me to add the gadget to my webpage, not to download it.
[19:45] <Daskreech2> As well as Superkaramba Widgets yahoo widgets Apple applets and plasmoids of course
[19:45] <squid0> am I doing something wrong?
[19:45] <eihnat> contrast: did that. changed settings in compizconfig settings manager. nothing. no cube. any ideas?
[19:46] <contrast> awesome
[19:46] <Daskreech2> Hmm Not sure. May want to jump into #plasma to get more detailed instructions
[19:46] <DeadTreeHugger> actually, i'm pretty happy with 4.2... sure, panel crashed once, kopete's crashed twice n kde bluetooth daemon crashed every single time I logged on but in general, I can really see where this is going, and I like the direction :)
[19:46] <squid0> ok
[19:46] <contrast> eihnat: Alt+F2 -> fusion-icon
[19:46] <Daskreech2> contrast: Should be fun when we get Gnome applets as well X-D
[19:46] <contrast> Daskreech2: is that coming?
[19:46] <DeadTreeHugger> I can also see the "All effect" tab in Systems Settings becoming a usability nightmare though :)
[19:47] <eihnat> contrast: aaaah, that's what i've been missing. :)
[19:47] <contrast> yeah, there were a few settings dialogs i assume they'll be cleaning up before release
[19:47] <eihnat> contrast: thanx
[19:47] <Daskreech2> contrast: I can't imagine it's not the packages for Gnome applets for Gnome 3.0 currently are proposed to be written in JS so it should be trivial to get them working in KDE
[19:47] <contrast> eihnat: np
[19:48] <Daskreech2> DeadTreeHugger: What made Kopete crash? I want to replicate
[19:48] <contrast> Daskreech2: interesting. (i thought you were referring to screenlets/Universal Applets - any word on those?)
[19:48] <Daskreech2> contrast: Well I'm talking about Gnome 3.0 which we of course have to wait for before we can say anything :)
[19:49] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: sorry, I can't really say, 'cos I was just switching windows around n it suddenly disappeared
[19:49] <Daskreech2> I don't think that any of the screenlets in Gnome right now are managed code
[19:49] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: is there anywhere where I can find a dump file?
[19:49] <Daskreech2> DeadTreeHugger: ahmm If you have debug turned on for kopete I think so
[19:50] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: i just opened Kopete thorugh the menu so I don't think so...
[19:50] <bobesponja> how are 4.2b1 packages?
[19:50] <bobesponja> anyone tried thme?
[19:50] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: I can do that... but where do i post the dump info?
[19:50] <bobesponja> them*
[19:51] <DeadTreeHugger> one thing i don't like about the new notifications plasmoid, it'll reset whatever else you're doing on the panel
[19:51] <contrast> Daskreech2: were you able to install amarok-nightly alongside kde-nightly? i got package errors when i tried (same file in multiple packages)
[19:51] <Daskreech2> DeadTreeHugger: Reset?
[19:52] <Daskreech2> I haven't been playing with Amarok sadly
[19:52] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: for e.g., if I open the K menu n I'm browsing through the menu... if a new kopete mesg comes in, the notification plasmoid will pop-up n cause the K menu to close...
[19:53]  * contrast finds the Intrepid Firefox package's dependencies absolutely ridiculous.
[19:54] <Daskreech2> DeadTreeHugger: I'll have to try that
[19:54] <comedit> If i want to import all data out of kontact from an 8.04 kubuntu and import it in a other install 8.10 what should I do
[19:54] <Daskreech2> contrast: It's a known bug marked as WontFix by the packagers cause it seems it our damn fault for using KDE
[19:54] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: I'm pretty sure you can simulate it...
[19:55] <contrast> pfft. eff that.
[19:55] <DeadTreeHugger> Daskreech2: just now, my girlfriend decided to spam me with a flurry of about 50-60 instant messages
[19:55] <contrast> i think Mark was talking about better Firefox integration with KDE come Jaunty. we'll see.
[19:55] <DeadTreeHugger> i couldn't do a single darned thing on my desktop throughout that time!
[19:56] <DaskReech> DeadTreeHugger: I seriously need a Girlfriend like that
[19:56] <contrast> anyone else using Lancelot?
[19:56] <DaskReech> contrast: Find me a link for that
[19:57] <contrast> DaskReech: what Mark said?
[19:57] <contrast> or lanelot?
[19:57] <comedit> no one an answer on my kontact question ?
[19:58] <DaskReech> contrast: Mark said
[19:58] <DaskReech> comedit: it should upgrade by itself If you are worried make a back up of your .kde directory
[19:59] <contrast> comedit: i know kaddressbook and akregator have export options (File -> Export something or another). not sure about the other components of Kontact - but afaik, there's no way to quickly export and import everything from Kontact, you have to do it app by app
[19:59] <comedit> it is on a diffrent install
[19:59] <comedit> ok thanks
[19:59] <contrast> np
[20:00] <DeadTreeHugger> DaskReech: heh... well, if not for anything better, she made me realize that it's probably better for the notification plasmoid to take up less vertical space :)
[20:00] <comedit> next question in KDE 4.1 (kubuntu 8.10) I have lost all nice functions like ( run as root, open as root) in dolphin and the menus i could not find how to revive this
[20:01] <comedit> is this gone for good
[20:02] <DaskReech> DeadTreeHugger: I think what you need is a collapse hint
[20:02] <DaskReech> DeadTreeHugger: You can click and hide them though
[20:04] <axel_> Hello! How to batch-rename files (incl. subfolders)? e.g. *.svg.gz -> *.svgz?
[20:04] <DeadTreeHugger> I find that the responsiveness of clicking on the notifications to be a tad iffy...
[20:05] <voicu> is anyone else having problems configuring their wired device with  knetworkmanager?
[20:05] <DeadTreeHugger> for e.g., if I click on "View" for an incoming message notification, the conversation window doesn't always get promoted to the top of the window stack
[20:05] <DaskReech> axel_: Krename ?
[20:05] <DeadTreeHugger> not very consistent
[20:05] <DaskReech> DeadTreeHugger: Try ctrl+Shift+I :)
[20:06] <voicu> i go in the menu and at new connection when i press on eth0 nothing happens
[20:06] <axel_> And my second question would be: How to batch-convert SVG-/ SVGZ-files into bitmaps (PNG preferred)? Aganin the subfolders should be respected.
[20:06] <contrast> i thought kde3/4 konqueror and dolphin service menus were pretty much interchangeable - i.e., you can just drop the old service menus from kde3 into /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus. am i wrong on this?
[20:06] <axel_> DaskReech:
[20:06] <axel_> DaskReech: OK. I'll check.
[20:06] <voicu> i open "edit connections" and create a wired connection but it doesn't work
[20:06] <DaskReech> contrast: Yes you are
[20:07] <DeadTreeHugger> DaskReech: alright, will do... thanks!
[20:07] <contrast> DaskReech: hrmm... so is there another solution, e.g., just changing a line or two in the old service menu files, or do they pretty much need to be completely rewritten?
[20:08] <DaskReech> contrast: You add two lines i think
[20:08] <DaskReech> It's really easy
[20:08] <dayel> hol alguien es latino
[20:08] <contrast> DaskReech: cool. could you point me to where i might find how to do that?
[20:08] <DaskReech> !es
[20:11] <voicu> pls, any ideas why knetworkmanager doesn't configure my ethernet correctly? eth0 appears in the menu but nothing happens when i try to add a connection to it
[20:13] <contrast> voicu: you're right-clicking knetworkmanager -> New connection -> eth0 and nothing's coming up?
[20:14] <axel_> DaskReech: Thanks al lot!!!! Krename works well for my purposes!
[20:14] <voicu> contrast: yes. i tried making a new connection by going at "edit connection" but the settings are not assigned to eth0 (according to ifconfig)
[20:14] <DaskReech> contrast: Try just comparing a native KDE3 one with a KDE4 one. I think you need to add like two headers
[20:14] <voicu> contrast: manually configuring the card works
[20:14] <DaskReech> axel_: It's a handy tool
[20:14] <contrast> i've had some issues with knm in intrepid, usually solvable by quitting knm, (re)moving ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc, then restarting knm. you might give that a shot.
[20:14] <contrast> DaskReech: doh. too obvious. heh, thanks.
[20:15] <contrast> voicu: ^
[20:15] <voicu> contrast: it's a fresh install of intrepid and it hasn't worked from the beginning
[20:15] <axel_> How to batch-convert SVG-/ SVGZ-Files into bitmaps?
[20:15] <contrast> too bad the version of krename in the repos is the old kde3 version, crippling some of its functionality
[20:16] <untiled> hi, kopete crashed so created a file called kopete.kcrash. anyone know how to report a bug with this file?
[20:16] <DaskReech> untiled: Attach it to the bugreport?
[20:17] <voicu> there should be a menu option in About or someting
[20:17] <contrast> voicu: hmm... sorry, man. i'm not sure. maybe quit knm, sudo modprobe -r <your eth module> && sudo modprobe <your eth module> && sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[20:17] <voicu> no, Help @ untiled
[20:17] <digitalnorm> to what channel should a newbie go to ask questions?
[20:17] <contrast> digitalnorm: newbies are welcome here. :)
[20:17] <digitalnorm> nice
[20:18] <digitalnorm> i wanna run ntfs-3g but it won't launch
[20:18] <DaskReech> digitalnorm: Questions about what?
[20:18] <contrast> !paste
[20:18] <voicu> contrast: ok, will try that
[20:18] <DaskReech> digitalnorm: Ha ha What are you expecting to launch ?
[20:18] <digitalnorm> i dunno
[20:18] <slicslak> where do i make it so that my user logs in auto on boot?
[20:18] <contrast> digitalnorm: use that to paste the output from ntfs-3g when you try to run it from the terminal (K Menu -> System -> Konsole)
[20:19] <contrast> ohh, err. scratch that. heh
[20:19] <DaskReech> digitalnorm: It's not a program
[20:19] <contrast> well, i'm off. peace, y'all.
[20:21] <DaskReech> digitalnorm: What are you using it for?
[20:23] <digitalnorm> dask:i installed ubuntu very gungho like and now am unable to see any remnants of my windows except an ntfs partition i can see with gparted.  i dont know how to look at it, if my win stuff is gone etc
[20:25] <jonah> hey guys i wanted to put a folder on share so i can get to it with my mac through the router. i righted clicked the folder i wanted to share, clicked on the share tab and pressed configure file sharing but i just get a load of errors, does anyone know how to get this to work right?
[20:25] <jonah> findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found
[20:25] <digitalnorm> also, howto launch destbar applet?
[20:26] <digitalnorm> *deskbar
[20:26] <jonah> i've been into adept and also installed the samba package by the way.
[20:27] <HappySmileMan> I can't make an MSN account on Kopete in 4.2?
[20:27] <jonah> why is kde so bad with file sharing when in gnome you can just do it with a few clicks?
[20:29] <sigma_> is the 4.2 beta alot of an improvement on the 4.1.x series? ie - is it worth the download?
[20:30] <SSJ_GZ> sigma_: yes; no one can answer that but you.
[20:30] <jonah> Error: "/tmp/kde-jonah" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[20:31] <sigma_> well i mean generally, is it really as buggy as people say?, just wondering if it is worth the download
[20:33] <jonah> hello can anyone please help me to do a file share in kde so i can copy a file to my mac. i can't copy it to usb stick or external drive as it's over 4gb and dophin says the file is too large so i figured if i shared it i could download it on the mac
[20:33] <jonah> can anyone help please
[20:33] <DaskReech> sigma_: It's more buggy than a relelase after a bunch of bug fixes of course but it has a lot of new features that ease up the pain
[20:33] <DaskReech> >_>
[20:33] <DaskReech> <_<
[20:33] <DaskReech> Plus I'm asking Kmail to marry me
[20:34] <milk> ааа! Пингвины, выручайте!
[20:34] <DaskReech> jonah: install ssh and pull it across sftp
[20:34] <DaskReech> !ru
[20:35] <milk> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[20:35] <sd32> !songbird
[20:35] <milk> блин
[20:36] <milk> где русские все?
[20:36] <jonah> DaskReech: is that simple to do?
[20:36] <sd32> !ru
[20:36] <DaskReech> jonah: Yes on both sides
[20:36] <DaskReech> !info songbird
[20:37] <DaskReech> hi milk
[20:38] <milk> Hello!:)
[20:39] <unix_> how can i upgrade my apt-get?
[20:40] <milk> is there somebody from Russia?
[20:40] <unix_> how can i upgrade my apt-get?
[20:41] <wesley__> so i wonder if skype will work
[20:42] <Daisuke_Ido> unix_: how can you upgrade *via* apt-get?
[20:43] <unix_> no i meant updating
[20:43] <Daisuke_Ido> because as far as i know, there haven't been any updates to apt-get itself in a while
[20:43] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get update
[20:43] <unix_> ok
[20:43] <Daisuke_Ido> will update your package cache
[20:43] <unix_> thanks
[20:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[20:44] <milk> how caaan I install adept or synaptic?
[20:44] <unix_> when i minimize a window i can see them on the panel....please help
[20:44] <unix_> i cant**
[20:45] <Daisuke_Ido> milk: well, if you're using kde, you already have adept, but try 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[20:45] <Daisuke_Ido> without the '' of course
[20:45] <Daisuke_Ido> unix_: that's one i can't really help with, i don't use kde anymore :(
[20:45] <DaskReech> milk: Do you need help?
[20:48] <cuznt> what to use to partition?
[20:49] <cuznt> !partition
[20:49] <tony_> buna
[20:50] <MarcoBXBRO1> what is the max ram you can add to kubuntu OS
[20:51] <genii> A lot
[20:51] <smitt> hi
[20:51] <edi_99> Hi guys, how do I get my kdebluetooth running?
[20:52] <sd32> !bluetooth
[20:52] <genii> MarcoBXBRO1: 64 bit means 16 exabytes of ram is possible
[20:56] <DaskReech> MarcoBXBRO1: More than you can buy
[20:57] <voicu> can i just delete a kernel module from the drive?
[20:57] <voicu> where are they stored?
[20:57] <voicu> ifound something in /sys/module
[20:57] <voicu> is that it?
[20:57] <eihnat_> ups. my pidgin dissapeared. :D
[20:58] <wesley__> so when will skype release a new skype ?
[20:58] <sd32> man... flash 10 is messed up on stickam in linux
[20:59] <DaskReech> voicu: If you don't need it then yes
[21:00] <voicu> daskreech: so i just delete the module in /sys/module?
[21:00] <DaskReech> voicu: Or move it somewhere else
[21:00] <voicu> yeah, good idea :
[21:00] <voicu> * :P
[21:01] <voicu> no, bad idea
[21:02] <voicu> i mean i just saw that the corresponding directory doesn't appear if the module is unloaded
[21:02] <voicu> that's just a runtime thing there
[21:09] <dumitru> how to make my kde application fonts not to look blurry on Ubuntu 8.10 (gnome)?
[21:10] <DaskReech> font smoothing
[21:12] <smitt> hello
[21:12] <smitt> can i ask any questions here?
[21:12] <sd32> !hello
[21:13] <sd32> !ask
[21:13] <DaskReech> smitt: No you can ask support related questions
[21:13] <DaskReech> We may allow tricking someone to propose marriage in front of 300 people ;)
[21:14] <smitt> okay
[21:14] <smitt> the first question
[21:14] <smitt> if i use kebenru 8.04 - how long it will be actual operating system?
[21:15] <DaskReech> smitt: as long as it's operating
[21:15] <smitt> i meant new technologies like kde4
[21:15] <smitt> if i dont have any fast internet speed
[21:16] <DaskReech> Kubuntu 8.04 Is what it is. It won't change
[21:16] <sd32> kubuntu 8.04 will be supported until 10/2009
[21:16] <smitt> i heard 8.04 short peroad of support is it very bad for me?
[21:16] <smitt> aha
[21:17] <smitt> oct 2009?
[21:17] <sd32> yes
[21:17] <smitt> hmmm
[21:17] <smitt> i dont have much time)
[21:17] <sd32> little less the a   year
[21:18] <smitt> and the next question
[21:18] <smitt> (sorry for defective eng i am russian and in third time on english)
[21:19] <sd32> your doing great
[21:19] <smitt> my teacher in high school thinks different? apple teacher))
[21:19] <smitt> apple mac teacher)
[21:19] <smitt> ok 2nd question)
[21:20] <smitt> can i use gcc or any else to comptute and compile my c and c++ code?
[21:21] <smitt> what we have on kubuntu 804
[21:21] <smitt> ?
[21:21] <DaskReech> Привет
[21:21] <sd32> do you know theres a russian support channel?
[21:21] <eihnat_> !ru
[21:21] <smitt> no
[21:21] <DaskReech> smitt: Yes install build-essential
[21:21] <smitt> i dont know
[21:22] <smitt> but
[21:22] <smitt> now i//
[21:22] <smitt> cool
[21:22] <smitt> what a sec
[21:22] <smitt> emmm... if i russian i need to go to ru channel?
[21:23] <smitt> i whant to be here
[21:23] <smitt> for now
[21:23] <smitt> i want*
[21:23] <DaskReech> smitt: no you can stay here
[21:23] <HappySmileMan> You don't have to, but it might be easier to discuss in your native language, your english seems fairly good though so might as well stay
[21:23] <eihnat_> smitt: u can stay here. it's just that it can be easier for you to ask and understand in ur language
[21:23] <DaskReech> as long as you speak english Which you are doing fine so far
[21:24] <wesley__> i am dutch and i am not getting any support in kubuntu-nl
[21:25] <smitt> happysmile for you - i want discus my problems with true developers of linux system i use, any russian systems i will discuss on ru channels
[21:25]  * DaskReech comforts wesley__
[21:26] <DaskReech> 3rd question!
[21:27] <wesley__> so i always just go to this channel
[21:27] <smitt> why some DVD compact disks written by windows are not readeble on my kebentu system, bu i can read it on other linus - for example asp linux 12 carbon
[21:27] <smitt> ?
[21:28] <smitt> this was the third
[21:28] <cuznt> how do i change permissions for /media/disk-2 on terminal please
[21:28] <smitt> thid
[21:28] <DaskReech> !dvd
[21:28] <eihnat_> cuznt: chmod command
[21:29] <cuznt> !chmod
[21:29] <smitt> people, if you tell me - i understand it on 70%, if i will read any documentation on tech style eng - it just very hard for me
[21:29] <DaskReech> cuznt: Set your umask option in the mount command
[21:29] <smitt> oh it automatic mounts
[21:29] <DaskReech> smitt: Read and ask any further questions you like :)
[21:30] <smitt> not like lfs or any half automatic desktop systems
[21:31] <smitt> ok i will learn how i can change the dvd mount modes
[21:31] <DaskReech> smitt: No sorry that part was not for you that was for cuznt
[21:31] <DaskReech> !dvd | smitt This is for you
[21:32] <smitt> 4th Q - why i cant use any ru symbols in some programs ang i cant see any errors - just incorrect work of programs
[21:32] <smitt> ?
[21:32] <smitt> i save links about dvd
[21:32] <DaskReech> Might be your keyboard :-/ I'm not sure
[21:32] <wesley__> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3664/schermafdruk1eg2.png look guys
[21:33] <DaskReech> kcharselect should allow you to put inrussian Chars in any program
[21:33] <smitt> 5th Q - png or jpeg?
[21:33] <DaskReech> wesley__: Fun with editors
[21:34] <DaskReech> smitt: What are you using it for?
[21:34] <HappySmileMan> PNG for lossless, Jpeg for small, no real answer to that smitt
[21:34] <smitt> for photos of me and my girl
[21:35] <smitt> i whant for quality
[21:35] <HappySmileMan> For quality PNG is better
[21:35] <smitt> my disk is big and i have dvd recorder, space is not a problem
[21:35] <smitt> ok thank you
[21:35] <smitt> png
[21:36] <smitt> 6th - what OS was on that picture?
[21:36] <smitt> pic by wasley
[21:36] <HappySmileMan> Which picture?
[21:36] <smitt> waseley's pic
[21:36] <HappySmileMan> Oh that's Kubuntu 8.10 with the Beta of KDE4.2 AFAIK
[21:36] <smitt> with beta?
[21:36] <wesley__> smit Windows Vista
[21:36] <smitt> hmmm
[21:37] <smitt> no
[21:37] <smitt> i saw vista
[21:37] <wesley__> With grub editor edited the entry
[21:37] <smitt> it is different
[21:37] <smitt> oh
[21:37] <smitt> what i stuppid
[21:37] <smitt> yea)
[21:37] <smitt> ok
[21:37] <smitt> 810
[21:37] <DaskReech> smitt: When you install Linux and WIndows on the same drive you get a menu to choose. He edited his menu
[21:37] <smitt> beautifull system i sad)
[21:38] <smitt> ok i use only linux systems
[21:39] <smitt> what kde4's version is more stable?
[21:39] <wesley__> DaskReech if apple just did make itunes for Linux i wouldnt need windows
[21:39] <smitt> what is itunes?
[21:39] <DaskReech> smitt: KDE3 would be more stable I think
[21:40] <smitt> smokes**
[21:40] <DaskReech> wesley__: Amarok?
[21:40] <wesley__> to manage music on you ipod/iphone
[21:40] <smitt> iphone.. i saw it, cool but very expensive
[21:40] <smitt> for me)
[21:40] <wesley__> DaskReech i have it for to manage music on my iphone, i havent found a easy way to put music on it from within linux
[21:41] <DaskReech> wesley__: Wait like 2 months I think that you will have things popping up
[21:42] <smitt> i have amarok 1.4.9.1 - i think it is very good solution for music (audio) managment
[21:42] <smitt> am i right?
[21:42] <wesley__> DaskReech i hope so, but even when i jailbreak him it wont get easy
[21:42] <DaskReech> Yes as long as it does what you want to do
[21:43] <DaskReech> I can't tink of what amarok doesn't do though
[21:43] <sd32> dosent play midi files
[21:44] <DaskReech> Mine does
[21:44] <smitt> in my city and my country very small part of people use linux, i dont know any other people who use linux...
[21:44] <wesley__> DaskReech it is only the manage part, you know apple has a different system for music playing
[21:45] <DaskReech> Hmm
[21:45] <DaskReech> ?
[21:45] <DaskReech> smitt: Give out CDS :)
[21:45] <smitt> can noatun play midi?
[21:45] <smitt> CDS? what is it?
[21:45] <wesley__> You have to sycn it, not like other players drag and drop, no need to sycn it with itunes
[21:47] <wesley__> but i just sycn my complete music collection so i dont need to login for awhile in Windows
[21:47] <DaskReech> Linux CDs
[21:47] <smitt> itunes... i dont know for all 100%, but i think it is like mp3 player with internet connection to download any new media
[21:47] <gkffjck> why do all the directories in linux need executable permissions to be read.
[21:47] <smitt> i just dont know what is it)
[21:48] <smitt> i mean itunes)
[21:48] <DaskReech> gkffjck: They need read permissions to be read
[21:48] <wesley__> smit yes that what it is, and to manage you ipod/iphone
[21:48] <DaskReech> They need executable permissions to execute
[21:48] <hads> As a long shot, is anyone running the 4.2 beta packages under the Gnome desktop environment? When doing so Kontact/KMail don't have window decorations.
[21:48] <sd32> DaskReech: how did you get amarok to play midi files?
[21:49] <DaskReech> smitt: It is a Media player /manager which has a store
[21:49] <DaskReech> hads: interesting using metacity ?
[21:49] <DaskReech> sd32: I don't remember it's been years now :)
[21:50] <hads> DaskReech: Yeah, using either metacity or compiz. Konqueror has decorations but Kmail or Kontact don't. I'm just tring to narrow it down.
[21:50] <gkffjck> no, if a directory doens't have exe perms you get an io error... I was just wondering why?
[21:50] <sd32> DaskReech: i had to run Timidity
[21:50] <DaskReech> hads: Does Kwin run?
[21:51] <wesley__> I could better marry with my notebook XD
[21:51] <DaskReech> gkffjck: execute on a directory means that you cannot enter it. If you take it off yo ucan see what's inside the directory but you can't enter it
[21:52] <DaskReech> sd32: check kde-apps.org
[21:52] <hads> DaskReech: Just trying that actually :) kwin --replace runs fine and decorates everything except Kontact.
[21:53] <hads> Of course it works fine under KDE.
[21:53] <sd32> DaskReech: those are third party aps as well
[21:53] <DaskReech> hads: Ok would you like to join #kontact and ask?
[21:53] <DaskReech> sd32: Yeah I had to tweak it but it works
[21:53] <hads> DaskReech: Sure
[21:54] <smitt> if i what any new visual styles for my kde 3.5 what can i do?
[21:55] <wesley__> so i anm configuring kmail
[21:55] <DaskReech> smitt: www.kde-look.org
[21:55] <smitt> jabber or icq? what is more usefull?
[21:55] <sd32> DaskReech: oh it depends on the engine
[21:55] <smitt> dask thanks
[21:56] <DaskReech> smitt: Depends on where your friends are :)
[21:56] <DaskReech> I like ICQ
[21:57] <wesley__> what is sendmail ?
[21:57] <smitt> if i use jabber i can use icq translators and dont need to update my client program
[21:57] <smitt> i chose jabber
[21:57] <DaskReech> wesley__: It allows you to sendmail
[21:58] <DaskReech> smitt: Chose it in what?
[21:58] <smitt> heh linux world is real alternative) i like it
[21:58] <wesley__> i have gmail, so sendmail it something like gmail
[21:58] <smitt> who is hackers?
[21:59] <DaskReech> wesley__: Yeah sure :)
[21:59] <wesley__> going google on it
[22:01] <smitt> or they are bad or good i cant understand...
[22:03] <DaskReech> smitt: hackers are people who like to code
[22:03] <DaskReech> They can code for bad or good
[22:03] <DaskReech>  In linux the vast vast vast numbers are more good than bad
[22:05] <sd32> DaskReech: the amarok people say no to midi
[22:05] <sd32> but it was the easy way out
[22:05] <smitt> ok i understand, but they are bring any danger in my heart
[22:06] <DaskReech> smitt: crackers are bad. hackers are ok ;-)
[22:06] <DaskReech> crackers try to break systems
[22:06] <smitt> ok, i download amarok visual style, new style but it in tar gz format and i dont know what i need to do to install it
[22:07] <smitt> why crackers do it?
[22:08] <Nalleman> Hi, i have messed up the panel objects in 4.1. Is there a way to get it back to default?
[22:08] <smitt> where i need to install amarok visual style?
[22:08] <smitt> i need path
[22:08] <DaskReech> smitt: Cause they want to
[22:08] <DaskReech> smitt: It should have  a file README in it
[22:08] <DaskReech> read the README
[22:09] <smitt> but my computer hasnt any secret developments or any new technologies
[22:09] <smitt> no the readme files are not here
[22:10] <smitt> no in this pack
[22:10] <HappySmileMan> If they're breaking into computers it's usually to bot people or make a profit somehow
[22:10] <HappySmileMan> If you use a credit card online then it's worthwhile for someone to hack your computer and install a trojan
[22:10] <smitt> only css file and subfolder
[22:10] <HappySmileMan> Even if not, they could use it to send spam
[22:11] <sd32> DaskReech: but the midi  question livened up the #amarok channel..lol
[22:11] <DaskReech> sd32: heehee :-)
[22:11] <smitt> linux systems better in deffensive versus cracker attacks?
[22:12] <smitt> dask thaks nubmer 2
[22:12] <DaskReech> smitt: Can be
[22:13] <HappySmileMan> Yeha they're generally safer, and they get updates much more quickly than Windows systems, so if someone does figure out how to break into it it usually gets fixed quickly (as long as you update regularly)
[22:13] <DaskReech> smitt: certainly much easier to protect against people cracking in
[22:14] <smitt> hmm
[22:15] <smitt> windows - is trash can where viruses are grow and they population are big, they leave leave leave and system dying)
[22:16] <smitt> dask they are not answering me
[22:16] <smitt> but talks(
[22:16] <DaskReech> ha ha :)
[22:16] <smitt> i mean amarok chanel
[22:16] <smitt> ))
[22:16] <DaskReech> ask sd32 to poke them with something rousing :0
[22:16] <smitt> not viruses)))
[22:16] <sd32> lol
[22:16] <smitt> viruses are talks and i heard it)
[22:17] <smitt> on the night
[22:18] <DaskReech> smitt: Restore and Trash can harbour viruses on Windows
[22:19] <smitt> i think they dont know amarok visual style instalation path, people from #amarok
[22:19] <smitt> dont answer for me...
[22:19] <smitt> ok
[22:19] <smitt> i need windows
[22:19] <DaskReech> smitt: probably ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[22:19] <smitt> for my new viruses from internet
[22:19] <DaskReech> smitt: have fun
[22:20] <jabrroa> windows sucks
[22:20] <smitt> i like viruses to grow
[22:20] <smitt> grow and prosper
[22:20] <jabrroa> wtf is with this guy?
[22:20] <smitt> and eat)
[22:20] <jabrroa> and get arrested
[22:20] <smitt> just kidding)
[22:20] <jabrroa> viruses are nothing to play with...
[22:20] <sd32> its easy to track ips on irc
[22:21] <jabrroa> already got his hehe
[22:21] <jabrroa> i aint even the law (yet)
[22:21] <smitt> dask
[22:21] <DaskReech> yes?
[22:21] <jabrroa> century tele comunications
[22:21] <smitt> why ark's drug&drop are incorrect works
[22:22] <sd32> thats why you dont want tot make people angry here..:)
[22:22] <smitt> errors
[22:22] <smitt> when i drug any
[22:22] <jabrroa> yes :)
[22:22] <jabrroa> drag*
[22:22] <smitt> oh)
[22:22] <smitt> drug i mean
[22:22] <smitt> ou
[22:22] <jabrroa> wtf?
[22:22] <smitt> drag)
[22:22] <smitt> sorry
[22:22] <jabrroa> DRAG
[22:22] <jabrroa> lol
[22:22] <sd32> !punctuation
[22:22] <smitt> grug - is kokain and others
[22:23] <smitt> ok thanks
[22:23] <smitt> i try it
[22:26] <smitt_> dask
[22:26] <cuznt> when i partition my spare hd the one i want to use for BOTH systems would work as a ntfs   a fat32 ex2 ex3 ??
[22:26] <smitt_> what about fix drag&drop in Ark program? do u know anithing?
[22:26] <DaskReech> smitt_: Yeah Drag and drop is messed up in KDE4 for ark
[22:26] <DaskReech> Hold on
[22:27] <DaskReech> cuznt: NTFS or Fat32
[22:27] <smitt_> ntfs - is big error system
[22:27] <DaskReech> smitt_: nope still seems broken
[22:28] <cuznt> so fat32 is the better choice?
[22:28] <smitt_> dask can i fix it manualy?
[22:28] <smitt_> or i need any other channel?
[22:28] <DaskReech> smitt_: Not likely :(
[22:29] <smitt_> any lowsize ark analogs?
[22:29] <DaskReech> cuznt: as long as you don't have huge files
[22:29] <smitt_> to download now (i just have dialup only)
[22:29] <DaskReech> smitt_: it works just not with Drag and drop :-(
[22:29] <cuznt> its for music sharing
[22:29] <cuznt> and video
[22:29] <cuznt> so yes
[22:29] <cuznt> 11g to save at first
[22:29] <DaskReech> cuznt: anything above 3 GB?
[22:30] <DaskReech> any one file larger than 3GBs?
[22:30] <cuznt> as i just said to make a video it takes 11g @ first
[22:30] <smitt_> dask
[22:31] <smitt_> it works but why ark show error messege "tar: no file"
[22:37] <smitt_> dask
[22:37] <smitt_> give me apt-get install style commands for update my kde3 functioanlity
[22:37] <smitt_> thanks
[22:40] <DaskReech> smitt_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:43] <smitt_> dask that is all?)
[22:43] <DaskReech> smitt_: yes
[22:48] <achite> slt tt
[22:49] <achite> y a t'il qquelqu'un qui peut m'éxliqué comment configurer ma webcam
[22:49] <smitt_> i dont understand it
[22:50] <DaskReech> !webcam
[22:50] <DaskReech> achite: Which language?
[22:51] <achite> french
[22:52] <DaskReech> !fr
[22:52] <DaskReech> Hmm didn't pick that up
[22:54] <smitt_> dask
[22:54] <smitt_> i have a questions
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> smitt_: wassup?
[22:56] <smitt_> emm if i use any console apt process can i use graphical gui for it together?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> smitt_: no, only 1 app can access the packages at once
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> smitt_: yu can use either interchangably, but not simultaneously
[22:58] <smitt_> okey
[22:58] <smitt_> i ll be wait
[22:58] <smitt_> when apt finishes his job
[22:58] <smitt_> and then i try to install any programs from apt gui
[22:59] <uberadm> whats the general opinion on kde4?
[22:59] <smitt_> kde3)
[22:59] <uberadm> the kde thats just come out with kubuntu8.1
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: imho, its fine
[23:00] <smitt_> who use gnome?
[23:00] <uberadm> I quite like it, but wireless is giving me grief
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: thats not kde, thats the OS
[23:00] <uberadm> oh ok
[23:01] <uberadm> do you think it would be better if I just changed to ubuntu?
[23:02] <smitt_> is alac decoder useful?
[23:02] <isaacj87> hey all, accidentally deleted the trash from the places panel in Dolphin. Anyone know how to get it back...Is it "trash:/" ?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> i dunno how to get it back in dolphin
[23:03] <JontheEchidna> isaacj87: you can drag trash:/ to the places sidebar
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> isaacj87: check the trash folders exist and remember linux is case sensitive
[23:03] <isaacj87> JontheEchidna: where is that located?
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> just type trash into the location bar
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: depends what desktop environment you like
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> right click -> edit location bar
[23:05] <uberadm> ActionParsnip: I usually tend towards kde, but I'm more concerned about getting my pc working properly
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: well if you like kde, install kubuntu
[23:06] <uberadm> thats the thing, I can't seem to get my wireless working... kwirelessmanager doesn't load
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: then use a different app
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: or manuallly config /etc/network/interfaces
[23:07] <isaacj87> JontheEchidna: Thanks, I just needed the location. Drag and drop didn't work with KDE 4.2 beta 1, so I just manually added a new entry to the place panel with the location of "trash:/"
[23:07] <smitt_> downloading kdevelop, thiks it is cool
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: there are millions of wifi config apps
[23:08] <brain> guten abend
[23:08] <comedit> How can I get things as : edit as root, open as root, run as root back in my menus again in kubuntu 8.10 (kde 4.1)
[23:08] <uberadm> ActionParsnip: how close are kubuntu and ubuntu? is the difference just in the DE?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> yep
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> literally
[23:09] <comedit> in kde 3.5 it was all there
[23:10] <uberadm> ActionParsnip: okay, well that helps
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> comedit: kdesudo kate or sudo <cli app> or kdesudo <gui app>
[23:10] <comedit> or is there an other way to work as root in Kde now
[23:11] <comedit> from Konsole you mean
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> yeah
[23:12] <comedit> that's a setback for me
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> comedit: i dont know any other way
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> comedit: mind you I use CLI LOADS
[23:12] <uberadm> comedit: I use sudo passwd
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> oh dont do that
[23:13] <uberadm> lol why not...?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> enabling root logon reduces the security of your system
[23:13] <comedit> well I am ok if i am workingin Konsole to use sudo no prob ... why not sudo
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> sudo on console is awesome
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> enabling the root logon is retarded
[23:14] <DaskReech> ActionParsnip: No it doesn't :-P
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> you can sudo -i
[23:14] <DaskReech> No it's not
[23:14] <uberadm> whats sudo -i?
[23:14] <jlc> when I install kubuntu on top of ubuntu and login, it has both NetworkManager applet and KnetworkManager in the task bar
[23:14] <DaskReech> uberadm: Temporary root login
[23:14] <DaskReech> jlc: kill one
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> DaskReech: if the account is disabled there is 0% chance anyone can get at that account
[23:14] <jlc> how do I remove nm-applet from it
[23:14] <jlc> is that normal?
[23:15] <DaskReech> ActionParsnip: Yeah but they get at your account and you are equally screwed
[23:15] <DaskReech> Not a lot of difference
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> DaskReech: but they have to know your password which is not gained using buffer attacks / program attacks
[23:15] <DaskReech> It does prevent you accidently screwing yourself in most cases which is useful
[23:15] <uberadm> the way kubuntu handles root is a bit weird
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> DaskReech: sudo / kdesudo requires password entry, root doesnt
[23:16] <DaskReech> !root
[23:16] <faileas> uberadm: sudo is ok once you get used to it
[23:17]  * uberadm isused to using su
[23:17] <coreymon77> uberadm: so was i when i first started, now i always use sudo, even when not on kubuntu
[23:17] <CoJaBo-Eee> What do I need to do to get to Windows shared files? It worked before, but now it asks me for a password?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: sudo -i is advised
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: you can use smbmount
[23:18] <coreymon77> just plain sudo is advised really
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: make sure the access account has a password or it won't fly
[23:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: I am using the regular file manager (Dolphin)
[23:19] <uberadm> when I tried using sudo it asked to the root passwd... which I never set in install
[23:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> It asks me for a password.
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> uberadm- no, it asked for your user password
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> uberadm: you did, its YOUR password that you log in with
[23:19] <uberadm> oh lol
[23:19] <uberadm> okay
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: then use username / password that has the permissions you want in the local folder permissions
[23:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: There is no password tho, its configured to share to anyone.
[23:21]  * uberadm is starting to get this now... ubuntu doesn't ask for a root passwd in install so that the system is more secure by default
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: i'd add a password. Ive personally never had a none passworded account for shares
[23:22] <astromme> is anyone working in jaunty with fglrx? It keeps failing for me.
[23:22] <comedit> ok basically I was looking for a solution in KDE4.1 for example within dolphin: right click  open as root
[23:22] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Its a home network shared drive. There is no need for a password, yet it is asking me for one.
[23:22] <comedit> that's now gone in 4.1
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: try adding a password, see if its good
[23:23] <comedit> and Konsole I know how to use sudo
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> comedit: add a menu item for 'run dolphin as root' which runs 'kdesudo dolphin'
[23:23] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Not even sure how, never used passwords on Windows shares before. I connected before OK, not sure what could have changed now.
[23:23] <comedit> now I got it
[23:24] <comedit> ActionParsnip: thanks (should havethought of it myself)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> comedit: np man
[23:24] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there any way to get it to connect without password?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: i think you are gonna have to experiment with the new system
[23:25] <smitt_> dask
[23:25] <DaskReech> yes?
[23:25] <smitt_> do u use backtrack3?
[23:25] <smitt_> up
[23:25] <DaskReech> No What's that?
[23:25] <smitt_> emm hacker linux system
[23:26] <DaskReech> Nope not used it
[23:26] <smitt_> very very cool
[23:26] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Is there a way to fix it?
[23:26] <smitt_> try it, it is only live cd
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> My BbalL plasmoid is stuck inside my cashew D:
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: i'd add a new windows user account with a password
[23:27] <HappySmileMan> Is the Bball plasmoid supposed to just fall and then sit at bottom of screen
[23:28] <HappySmileMan> If so it's working perfectly and not very impressive
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: then use smbmount in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot and store the username and password
[23:28] <DaskReech> HappySmileMan: It's a bouncing ball
[23:28] <DaskReech> You throw it against things and it bounces
[23:28] <DaskReech> More a proof of concept like the tiger face
[23:28] <DaskReech> Not intended to be useful
[23:28] <HappySmileMan> Ah I assumed it was supposed to keep going, rather than require user to throw it
[23:29] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Why would it require a password
[23:29] <DaskReech> That would get annoying fast
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: security, i guess. not sure
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> !smbmount
[23:29] <HappySmileMan> Having a ball sit at bottom of screen is annoying?
[23:31] <DaskReech> HappySmileMan: having it bouncing by itself randomly then trying to catch it to stop it would be annoying
[23:32] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Did something change in a recent update that broke it working wihout password, or is it something else that I might have changed?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: not sure what you have changed. could be an update
[23:33] <HappySmileMan> Hey iu think I just got to to go forever by reducing gravity to 0, friction to 0 and max restitution
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares
[23:33] <HappySmileMan> It DOES get annoying
[23:33] <DaskReech> HappySmileMan: Leave it for a few hours :)
[23:34] <HappySmileMan> Have is bouncing slowly along bottom, doubt it can speed up so I'll leave it there
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> lol
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> you can set it to autobounce too
[23:34] <Limpalot> Can anyone point me to a good howto for syncing Nokia E65 against Evolution? Please, pretty please with sugar on top?
[23:35] <sd32> what  no cherry?
[23:35] <Limpalot> Ok, I'll throw in a cherry too :)
[23:35] <sd32> :)
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Limpalot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260676
[23:37] <Limpalot> ActionParsnip: That should work with Intrepid? Hmmmm, maybe I'll just have to walk trough it again...
[23:38] <Limpalot> I'll give it a go, thanx for the tip :)
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Limpalot: yeah, ubuntu is ubuntu
[23:39] <DaskReech> is kubuntu
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Limpalot: http://www.opensync.org/ticket/628
[23:39] <DaskReech> OpenXchange?
[23:40] <DaskReech> For KDE 4.4 :-(
[23:42] <Limpalot> Hmm, can't find libopensync-plugin-kdepim and the repos indicated doesn't have intrepid. Just trying to sync between local Evolution and the E65
[23:45] <Limpalot> The first phone that comes with easy Evolution integration is going straight to my pocket the instance it hits the shops! What is it with Nokia and MS?
[23:47] <DaskReech> Money?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> ms get more support due to bug #1
[23:50] <valerio> #kubuntu-it
[23:50] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: I get "mount error 5 = Input/output error"
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Eee: check your mount command
[23:55] <Xand3r> hi
[23:55] <Xand3r> is there a command to make the cursor invisible?
[23:56] <Xand3r> i want that the cursor is invisible in a certain application
[23:56] <Xand3r> how can i make this?
[23:57] <Guest77531> Xand3r: you can ask the author of the application to do it
[23:58] <Guest77531> there's a QT call for it.
[23:58] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Assuming the command is correct in that link, it should right.
[23:58] <Guest77531> Xand3r: xwit might be able to do it.
[23:58] <Guest77531> which app?
[23:59] <wesley__> So how are you guys thinking about kde4.2
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Xand3r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395023
[23:59] <astromme> wesley__ I'm struggling with jaunty right now
[23:59] <astromme> kde4.2 itself is great. My radeon card is not (and my nvidia no better =/)