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wgrantmpt: Possible for human UI designers?00:03
mptwgrant, sure, I've seen a mockup of it, and it wasn't even mine ;-)00:07
wgrantmpt: Oh, good.00:10
wgrantWhen are we seeing the 3.0-break-everything-again UI?00:13
wgrantIt has been a few months since the last UI redesign...00:13
mptI think the idea is more small bits of awesomeness from now on00:14
wgrantThat sounds better.00:14
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kikofta, woo00:53
ftakiko, still stuck but we'll see00:55
FAJhi, i am trying to set up a ppa, but am having difficulties with signing the ubuntu code of conduct...  it says that there is no public key?01:25
kikoHobbsee, can you subscribe to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/281293 ?01:26
ubottuUbuntu bug 281293 in launchpad-registry "X-Launchpad headers missing from user deactivation email" [Low,Triaged]01:26
kikoFAJ, are you following any documentation?01:26
FAJkiko01:26
Hobbseekiko: ok?  (why)01:27
FAJkiko:  only the instructions that is on the site.01:27
kikoHobbsee, because it's your bug?01:27
FAJi am probably encrypting/decrypting wrong...01:27
Hobbseekiko: oh, that one :)01:27
Hobbseekiko: I thought that was the email about deactivating accounts for launchpad or something, and was thinking  "why is this relevant to me?"01:28
kikoHobbsee, well I want to ask you a question on it. :)01:28
Hobbseekiko: ahhh.  Ask away :)01:28
FAJkiko: gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt  that is the command i throw in, and I get a .asc... how should i open it?01:28
kikoFAJ, so one thing at a time. have you imported your pgp key into launchpad, first?01:29
* Hobbsee notes filtering on X-Generated-By (or whatever it is) works a charm, too01:29
FAJkiko; yes i believe so...01:29
FAJyes it shows it as an active key01:29
kikook cool01:31
FAJso but then why is it telling me that i don't have an open key?01:31
kikoFAJ, "it" and "telling" sound very vague.01:32
FAJhttps://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1/+sign01:33
FAJ(7, 9, 'No public key')01:33
FAJthis means website telling means below ;)01:34
FAJsorry for being so random01:34
FAJkiko:  any thoughts?01:36
kikoaha01:37
FAJlol cool01:37
kikoFAJ, so let me check something.01:37
kikoFAJ, what's your launchpad id?01:37
FAJhttps://launchpad.net/~cunninghamlouis01:37
FAJ?01:37
FAJsorry totally newb to this01:38
FAJif you tell me where it is i can get it01:38
kikoFAJ, did you only just import the key?01:43
FAJkiko: yes01:43
kikoFAJ, can you wait for a bit and try again? there is a delay sometimes.. not sure why01:43
FAJkiko; ah ok....01:44
FAJhow should i open the .asc .... b/c i can open it with gedit...01:44
FAJkiko:  about how long should i wait...01:47
kikosure gedit or whatever is fine01:47
FAJkiko:  ok how long should i wait?01:48
kikoFAJ, now, and if it doesn't work, in an hour, and if that doesn't work, ask a question (see /topic)01:49
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FAJok so should i just try again....01:51
FAJok tried again; still bad.01:52
lifelesskiko: re: delay, if the key is in one appservers cache but not another, and hasn't propogated amongst keyserfvers yet, that might explainit01:56
kikolifeless, it's more that there's an internal keyserver and sometimes the syncing breaks01:58
lifelesskiko: that would fit too - I only commented cause you said 'not sure why'01:59
kikoyeah!01:59
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FAJah ok...02:00
FAJb/c i know i tried to go to a different webpage and navigate back to that page; but still same error02:00
kiko-zzzFAJ, I think the syncing is broken. If you ask a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad I'll have somebody look into it tomorrow02:01
kiko-zzzI need to split though02:01
FAJkk02:01
FAJi will try syncing tomorrow02:01
FAJthanks kiko02:02
* kiko-zzz waves02:02
CyHawkhi! is there support for handling line-endings in bazaar currently? on the net i mostly just found plans for it from 2007 and can not tell if it was implemented in the end.02:22
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Hobbseekiko-zzz: answered02:26
Rhothi everyone!02:31
Rhoti'm trying to upload some debs for the 1st time to ppa, but i can't figure out how to do this. Any help?02:32
Rhotthere is only dput to upload sources, but i need to upload binaries02:33
mwhoh02:33
mwhyou can't upload binary packages02:34
mwh(it's not the way ubuntu works)02:34
Rhotso launchpad is only for source maintaining?02:35
stdinlaunchpad will build the binaries for you02:35
HobbseeRhot: ppa is about building sources for you, giving you the binaries.02:35
Hobbseeperhaps you're wanting another part of launchpad?02:36
Rhotdidn't know that... i'm a little bit confused02:36
FAJHobbsee:  i noticed that when i go 'up' the html chain, it says i already have an opengpg key registered02:37
Rhoti built some binaries for my job colleagues.02:38
Rhotis there any place on launchpad or somewhere else where i can distribute those packages?02:39
stdinis there any reason you don't want the PPA to build it?02:42
Hobbseestdin: presumably he doesn't want to give the source away?02:42
Rhotsure, i use some special configuration options when i compile the binary. that options make it (software) best-suited for our company needs.02:45
FAJHobbsee: if it says that i have a key in there, then could i be copying and pasting wrong?02:46
HobbseeFAJ: i don't know, it's been so long since i've done it.02:47
Hobbseethey've probably changed it since i've done it02:47
FAJo... ok02:47
Hobbsee(like, 2005)02:47
FAJoh ok...02:47
FAJb/c i am guessing that the key gpg is using is the WRONG KEY... i think02:48
wgrantFAJ: Did you do as kiko suggested and ask a question on Launchpad?02:50
FAJwhere?02:50
wgranthttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad02:50
FAJwhat i am guessing is happening is that the gpg key that i am using to encrypt is using a different key to encrypt than the open gpg key02:51
FAJso the question is; how to make the gpg command see a different key?02:59
mwhgpg --use-key or something isn't it?03:00
FAJnot --use-key03:00
FAJi am looking in the help,,, but nothing03:00
Hobbseegpg --list-keys?03:01
FAJok... but that just lists them...03:02
mwhgpg -u i think03:02
FAJok will try -u,,, but then which id do i use?03:02
mwhi think it takes the short id03:02
FAJah -u is is03:03
FAJit03:03
mwhi remember battling to get this work once and promptly forgot the details :)03:03
* Hobbsee wonders about the definition of "see" here03:03
FAJaha!03:04
FAJya... lol i thought i would see it in -h...03:04
FAJphew finally03:04
FAJthank you all who helped me out; i have a feeling i will be back.03:07
FAJhow can i change my ppa from jaunty to hardy/03:15
stdinFAJ: you just edit the debian/changelog to have jaunty instead of hardy03:15
FAJstdin:  where is that?03:16
stdinon the 1st line, at the far right03:17
FAJstdin:  on which page?  i don't see anything to change?03:18
stdinin the source package03:18
stdinthe one you upload03:18
FAJsorry to being totally new... o ok...03:18
stdin<package> (<version>) jaunty; urgency=low03:18
FAJand what if i have a .deb... how can i upload it?03:18
Hobbseeyou can't.03:19
FAJoh...03:19
stdinyou don't upload .debs03:19
FAJtar.bz2?03:19
stdinthe point of PPAs is to build debs from source03:19
FAJok so i if i have a tar.bz2...03:19
stdinyou have to make it into a debian package03:20
stdinusually means converting it to a .tar.gz for a start03:20
stdinyou may want to look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide03:21
mwhi don't think the build system supports .tar.bz2 yet03:21
FAJok...03:21
mwh(it will sooner or later though)03:21
FAJwell see i what i am trying to do is to set up a ppa for pidgin-facebookchat.03:21
FAJand so it already has all the stuff....03:21
FAJan i am trying to use dput to update it, but it keeps telling me that it is not a .changes file...03:23
stdinthat's because you need to build the source package03:23
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FAJconfused as to why.03:24
Hobbseebecause ppas build the binary for you03:25
Hobbseethat's the point of them03:25
FAJok but i have a .tar.gz with the source....03:25
stdina source package is not the same as the source of a project03:26
stdinyou need to debianize it03:26
FAJo... ok03:26
FAJis there an 'easy' way to do it?03:26
stdinhave a look at the guide I posted above and https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA03:26
stdinthere is no automatic way of doing it properly03:27
FAJhttp://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/downloads/list03:27
FAJi am just wondering if any of those work...03:27
stdinyou'd have to take the source code and create a debian source package out of it03:29
FAJok03:29
stdinif you want to use the PPA service, you'll have to learn something about debian packaging first, it's not just a file hosting service03:29
Hobbseestdin: You know, i'm starting to see a profitable business venture for someoen to package stuff that people want in a ppa, but don't want to learn about themselves...03:30
FAJok thanks.03:30
stdinHobbsee: probably a good idea03:32
Hobbseehttp://launchpad.net/bugs/303403 and such.  Yay, spammer.03:57
ubottuError: This bug is private03:57
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thesecondlawHey can someone help me troubleshoot email bug editing?06:13
rockstarthesecondlaw, what do you mean email bug editing?06:16
thesecondlawLaunchpad's email interface, excuse me.06:17
rockstarthesecondlaw, what would you like to know?06:17
thesecondlawDoes it work for you? I've been signing my emails via PGP, and sending them from my lauchpad email but nothing seems to work06:18
thesecondlawI recieve neither a failure notice, nor a success notice from malone06:18
thesecondlawrockstar: ping06:22
rockstarthesecondlaw, what are you trying to do specifically?06:26
wgrantA pastebin of the email would likely be helpful.06:28
thesecondlawwgrant: Working on that now :)06:28
thesecondlawhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/80193/06:30
wgrantthesecondlaw: You also sent some individual messages?06:31
thesecondlawYes06:31
wgrantThe problem with both I've seen so far is that you don't have two spaces in front of the commands.06:31
wgrant  status invalid06:31
wgrantNot:06:32
wgrantstatus invalid06:32
rockstarwgrant, you need two spaces for bugs?06:32
rockstarI think you only need one.06:32
wgrantHmm, I've always used two.06:32
* wgrant checks docs.06:32
rockstarThe merge proposal stuff only requires one.06:33
thesecondlawHmm, from the directions I didn't know you needed any, so that  may be the problem06:33
thesecondlawEven then, shouldn't I get an error message?06:33
wgrantrockstar: I don't trust LP to not reinvent everything.06:33
wgrantNo.06:33
wgrantYours was a valid message.06:33
wgrantIt just didn't do anything.06:33
wgrantTo which address did you send it?06:34
rockstarwgrant, it may not be reinventing something, it may just be a loose regex.06:34
thesecondlawedit@bugs.launchpad.net - the address for mass edits06:34
wgrantthesecondlaw: Ah. For doing mass-closing like that I'll usually be tricky and just say '  status invalid' and have lots of bug address in the To line, to avoid spamming lots of bugs with a huge message.06:35
wgrantI've closed a couple of hundred bugs at once using that trick.06:35
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wgranthmm, indeed, just one space is required.06:36
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thesecondlawWell, the space thing seems to be my problem. Let me make sure its working06:37
wgrantI would advise against rejecting those bugs, however.06:37
thesecondlawAny reason? They are spam.06:37
wgrantThey are spam and should be 'deleted' by a LOSA.06:37
thesecondlaw*shrug* I mainly wanted to get rid of them to clean up my own workflow while triaging. They take up a nice chuck of my search results06:39
wgrantThat'll just spam people and not actually get rid of them. Better to actually kill them so they don't stick around forever.06:40
darius12I 'd like to use the ppa system of launchpad, to make development a bit faster and also share the results with whoever is interested.07:45
darius12Is it possible to have it automatically pull from a vcs?07:45
al-maisandarius12: you typically upload source packages to a PPA07:46
darius12since I don't have the bandwidth to reupload complete tarballs07:46
darius12I see, so there is no support for pulling from repositories?07:47
beunodarius12, not yet, it's in our plans07:47
darius12that would be a great feature :-)07:48
al-maisandarius12: there are future plans to link bazaar branches to source packages but I am not sure how imminent that feature is.07:48
beunoanyway, back to sleep07:48
beunoal-maisan, looking forward to seeing you next week07:48
al-maisanbeuno: same here :)07:48
darius12I see, thanks :-)07:48
al-maisanbeuno: did you have a chance to look at that movie?07:48
al-maisandarius12: you are welcome.07:49
beunoal-maisan, no, but I have it with me. I've been carrying it around everywhere, with the hope of actually managing to watch it!07:49
al-maisanbeuno: no problem, happens to me as well :)07:50
beunoal-maisan, I've been sprinting non-stop since the last time I saw you07:50
beunobut, I'll get to it, it's inevitable07:50
al-maisanbeuno: wow! You are a *busy* man :)07:50
beunoyou can say it that way  ;)07:51
beunonow, really, going to sleep07:51
* beuno waves07:51
al-maisanGood night beuno!07:53
darius12good night :)08:15
darius12I have one more question: assuming that someone is foolish enough to test a package of mine and finds a bug, where should it be reported? Just send an email?08:17
darius12Or is there issue tracker support for ppas?08:17
Hobbseedarius12: hopefully they'll email you.09:37
Hobbseedarius12: there's no issue tracker for ppas.09:37
darius12Hobbsee ok, then as you said "hopefully they will email me" :-)09:50
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* Hobbsee wonders why launchpad says "OK: <packagename> for rejected things, and is sure that it didn't used to do that...11:22
twi_hi11:42
twi_the pitivi project on launchpad belongs to Registry Administrators11:43
twi_how can we get it back?11:43
twi_we the pitivi developers that is11:43
wgranttwi_: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, and an admin should be able to help you out.11:54
twi_right answers.launchpad.net11:55
twi_wgrant thanks11:55
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flacosteme15:01
kikoem15:04
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xteejxHi guys, has anyone else come across bug 78596, it's quite annoying at times15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 78596 in malone "Automatically handle moving duplicates across when duplicating a bug with dupes" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7859615:41
intellectronicaxteejx: yes, it is quite annoying. hopefully it will get fixed soon, but i don't think it's scheduled for now15:47
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philnhi15:52
philnis launchpad.net blocked in china?15:52
elmophiln: certainly not universally, no15:54
philni've got a user there (dunno exactly where) telling me he's unable to access LP15:55
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bacphiln: we've had reports that LP is very slow from china.  is your user blocked or just finding LP unusable?16:12
philnbac: "I know that I should report this in Launchpad, but unfortunately I am not able to get into that from China – don’t know why."16:14
philni'll ask him16:14
bacphiln: thanks.  that is a little vague but it would be interesting to know for sure.16:15
philnyep i'll keep you in touch16:15
mario__mrevell: poke :)16:15
mrevellmario__: Hi16:16
mario__mrevell: I talked with jml yesterday (well, technically today)16:16
mario__(I'm pygi obviously, just at uni now so :P)16:17
mrevellmario__: Ah, glad to hear it.16:17
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mario__mrevell: thanks once again ;)16:20
mario__he'll probably work with us16:20
philnbac: he can't access it at all16:21
mrevellthat's great to hear mario__16:22
mario__mrevell: gotta run now, but will bug you once I'm home, or tomorrow :)16:22
mrevellgreat, catch you later :)16:22
bacmrevell: ^^ have you had any complaints about LP not being accessible from China?16:25
mrevellbac: No, I've not seen anything about it being inaccessible. There have been a few complaints about slowness from China in the past.16:26
bacmrevell: yes, that's all i'd heard too.16:26
bacmrevell: perhaps you should pop over and investigate?16:26
mrevellbac: I'll get packing.16:27
* mrevell reads up16:27
philni'm asking the guy what kind of error he might see in his browser... he's not really a tech dude16:29
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oojahHi17:21
oojahI'm feeling the launchpad love. My insignificant program got some more translations done and with the recent change of license wrt translations on launchpad it got me thinking on how to label the translations I'm including in my tarball considering the license and the copyright of the different translators. I thought just noting that they're under the BSD license would cover it, but looking at the .po files I've downloaded ...17:26
oojah... they are marked as under the same license as the project, which isn't the BSD license. Is this just an oversight?17:27
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Ursinhabac, do you know the answer for oojah?17:43
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bacUrsinha, oojah:  i do not know the answer offhand but will help find the answer.17:48
bacdanilos: can you answer oojah's question?17:54
Ursinhathanks bac18:01
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oojahI idle in here anyway so no rush :)19:34
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pygijml, poke?22:06
jmlpygi: hi. busy.22:06
pygijml, kk22:06
Hobbseelamont and co:  any idea on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20198898/upload_795677_log.txt?23:22
Hobbsee(failed to upload)23:23

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