| * _MMA_ waves. | 13:33 | |
| robsta | hiya | 13:33 |
|---|---|---|
| thorwil | hi! | 13:34 |
| ldp | Hello | 13:34 |
| * _MMA_ grabs Sebastian's newest stuff to put in Breathe-BZR. | 13:35 | |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: I asked him to take a shot at the category icons as the would show an instant change in the set. | 13:36 |
| _MMA_ | But I think we should examine the current ones and see if we can draw something different. | 13:37 |
| thorwil | *shrug* | 13:39 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 13:40 |
| robsta | thorwil: have you decided on a repository / project for the template? | 13:43 |
| thorwil | robsta: yes, i will add it to my kyudo repo. the button template is already there, actually | 13:44 |
| robsta | thorwil: url? | 13:45 |
| thorwil | robsta: https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/kyudo | 13:46 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: You around? | 13:48 |
| robsta | thorwil: good stuff | 13:49 |
| thorwil | :) | 13:53 |
| robsta | thorwil: unfortunately supporting all gtkrc widget style properties turns out to be more work than expected | 13:54 |
| thorwil | robsta: will that have any consequences besides things taking longer? | 13:56 |
| robsta | thorwil: guess not | 13:56 |
| robsta | thorwil: people on #gnome-art have kindly reminded me that nautilus, libwnck and other libs' widgets have style properties too | 13:57 |
| * thorwil -> coffee | 13:58 | |
| _MMA_ | Crazy thing is, there can also be custom widgets. This has messed me up more than once with the Studio theme. | 13:58 |
| robsta | yes, i'm talking of custom widgets, they will be handled | 13:59 |
| robsta | (as long as they are following gtk conventions) | 14:00 |
| * _MMA_ hopes this is all less of a mess with gtk3. | 14:01 | |
| robsta | _MMA_: there are some evil plans, keep an eye on gtk-devel-list | 14:01 |
| robsta | of course politics plays a role in gtk development too | 14:01 |
| _MMA_ | "Evil" in a good way? :) I'm really so sick of it I'm about to go to KDE. | 14:02 |
| robsta | _MMA_: sick of what? | 14:02 |
| robsta | theming limitations? | 14:02 |
| _MMA_ | Partly. Also the "politics". | 14:03 |
| robsta | hmm | 14:03 |
| robsta | i often hear that qt/kde has superior theming, but i never see themes i like | 14:03 |
| _MMA_ | It does have good themes but they have historically been harder than GNOME to install. That's one reason I've stayed away before. | 14:04 |
| robsta | _MMA_: i'm beating the drums for css support in gtk3, based on the lessons learned from my current work; we'll know more after the theming hackfest in Feb. | 14:06 |
| _MMA_ | robsta: Sounds great! :) | 14:08 |
| robsta | http://live.gnome.org/GTK%2B/NewThemeApi/Hackfest fyi | 14:09 |
| robsta | it's quite great that you guys are helping out on the artistic side, this will strengthen my position :) | 14:13 |
| _MMA_ | :) | 14:28 |
| robsta | cya | 14:30 |
| _MMA_ | later | 14:32 |
| ldp | Back | 14:34 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: hey man | 14:49 |
| _MMA_ | 1 sec. brb | 14:49 |
| * _MMA_ is trying to do half of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DWzuIreDGA | 15:39 | |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I was gonna say to get Ted to do some Inkscape hackin' while he's at UDS. :P | 15:40 |
| lucazade | _MMA_: video is impressive :) | 15:41 |
| kwwii | hehe, good idea...I was trying to get a hold of him about a few issues | 15:41 |
| _MMA_ | He's already supposed to be scriptin' creation of a source package for nightly PPA builds. | 15:41 |
| dilomo | Does anybody knows how can I theme the toolbar of evoulution differently than the rest of the toolbars? I know of the following way: | 15:41 |
| dilomo | widget_class "*EShellWindow.GtkVBox.BonoboDock.BonoboDockBand.BonoboDockItem*" style "newwave-evo-new-button-workaround" | 15:41 |
| dilomo | but it does not work for me because the style of the toolbar is applied to the menubar too and the result is this: | 15:41 |
| dilomo | http://img219.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05174_Screenshot_122_553lo.jpg | 15:41 |
| _MMA_ | dilomo: Might just be one of those things you have to live with. Otherwise, I have no clue. | 15:42 |
| lucazade | no idea how to solve it dilomo | 15:43 |
| dilomo | can't I use some better matching | 15:43 |
| dilomo | not BonoboDockItem* but Tool* smth | 15:43 |
| * kwwii is off to the store, bbl | 15:44 | |
| dilomo | btw what was the channel of gnome artwork? | 15:46 |
| dilomo | I want to ask there too | 15:46 |
| lucazade | ask cimi | 15:46 |
| dilomo | ok | 15:47 |
| dilomo | 10x | 15:47 |
| _MMA_ | #gnome-art I think | 15:47 |
| lucazade | #murrine | 15:47 |
| dilomo | there's nobody on gnome-art but me | 15:48 |
| lucazade | :) | 15:48 |
| andreasn | dilomo: on gimpnet? | 15:48 |
| dilomo | oh you mean the server | 15:49 |
| andreasn | yes | 15:49 |
| andreasn | irc.gimpnet.org | 15:49 |
| dilomo | adding it now | 15:50 |
| andreasn | Evolution is currently moving away from bonobo, but that doesn't help right now I guess :) | 15:50 |
| andreasn | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2008-November/msg00009.html | 15:50 |
| andreasn | or, currently, is in the process, rather | 15:50 |
| dilomo | when are they going to get rid of bonobo? | 15:51 |
| dilomo | in the next release? | 15:51 |
| dilomo | btw it does not want to connect to irc.gimpnet.org | 15:52 |
| andreasn | Matthew says "I still don't know." in the e-mail, I guess it depends a bit what Red Hat wants him to focus on during work hours | 15:53 |
| andreasn | oh, try irc.gimp.org | 15:53 |
| dilomo | so I have to think of a patch meanwhile :) | 15:54 |
| andreasn | did irc.gimp.org work? | 15:55 |
| dilomo | well probably not | 15:55 |
| dilomo | because it is still connecting | 15:55 |
| andreasn | irc.us.gimp.org might work | 15:56 |
| dilomo | I think the problem is in my pidgin here | 15:57 |
| dilomo | still nothing | 15:57 |
| dilomo | and when I try to edit the settings the entry for the channel is inactive | 15:58 |
| dilomo | I did it :) | 15:59 |
| dilomo | finally | 15:59 |
| dilomo | thanks andreasn | 16:00 |
| _MMA_ | Here's what I'm trying to get Compiz runnin' on. (smaller side ones are stand-ins 'till the 2-20" come in the mail) http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4030/dscf5024resizedxf1.jpg But it looks like Cant do it in Intrepid atm. I need to go back to Hardy. (I need the abandoned xserver-xgl) | 16:06 |
| dilomo | why is this not possible with the new | 16:09 |
| lucazade | mma what i can call a play-station | 16:09 |
| dilomo | xserver-xgl | 16:09 |
| _MMA_ | dilomo: It's unsupported and no longer in the repo. | 16:10 |
| _MMA_ | Go to the end of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=884161 | 16:11 |
| dilomo | wow | 16:12 |
| _MMA_ | lucazade: It's all business on this thing I assure you. ;) | 16:13 |
| dilomo | the specs are niec | 16:13 |
| dilomo | nice* | 16:13 |
| lucazade | you luck so :P | 16:13 |
| _MMA_ | dilomo: I'm runnin' on somewhat less of a setup (about half) but the idea is the same. | 16:13 |
| dilomo | yeah but it should work too | 16:14 |
| _MMA_ | It will if I go back to Hardy. | 16:15 |
| _MMA_ | atm, I don't have the final side monitors so it's not important. I'm just setting thins up for now. Trying to get the xorg right. | 16:15 |
| dilomo | i understand | 16:16 |
| lucazade | _MMA_: i can understand you, i have to use for my job xfree86 instead of xorg on an old centos to make it work with the touchscreen | 16:38 |
| lucazade | :) | 16:38 |
| _MMA_ | Oh wow. | 16:39 |
| lucazade | _MMA_: like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS4xYwYS6nM | 16:42 |
| _MMA_ | Cool. :) So there's no new drivers for this then? | 16:46 |
| _MMA_ | I bet someone on the xorg or kernel list could port/write it. | 16:46 |
| lucazade | i've found new one for intrepid but it's really hard to calibrate the touch | 16:46 |
| lucazade | so workin on it | 16:46 |
| lucazade | the old driver were not opensource :S | 16:47 |
| lucazade | so i was able to port/make it work on latest xorg | 16:48 |
| lucazade | *wasn't | 16:48 |
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