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FAJhi, i am trying to set up a ppa, but am having difficulties with signing the ubuntu code of conduct...  it says that there is no public key?01:25
Hobbseeagain, try #launchpad01:25
FAJlol ;) ok thanks01:25
Hobbseeoh, and patience, and cross-posting is bad01:25
FAJHobbsee:  i read the topic of devel and thought that it would be more appropriate to ask in here.01:26
HobbseeFAJ: ahhh.01:26
FAJya...01:26
FAJi was like o you want me in here?  ok i'll go there and post01:26
psusianyone else notice a rash of updated packages today that don't look like they should have been ( not security fixes or other high priority big fixes )?01:40
psusiin Intrepid that is01:41
psusiI thought only high priority bug fixes were supposed to get into -updates as an SRU?01:41
james_wpsusi: have an example?01:42
persiapsusi, Everything should have been approved by one of the SRU teams.  Check the bugs in the changelogs.01:42
james_wthey should all be approved by the appropriate SRU team01:42
james_whello persia01:42
psusiI'm looking at some.... right now I'm looking at the splix package, which fixed bug #292690, which is not a high priority bug01:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 292690 in splix "Garbage bitmaps printed on left margin in ubuntu testpage on A4 on Samsung printers" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29269001:43
persiajames_w, Hey.01:43
james_wpersia: how was your holiday?01:44
psusihrm... maybe it just never had its priority field set properly but was supposed to be high priority now that I read into it a bit01:44
persiajames_w, It's been good so far.  I've a bit left, but with bandwidth now find that I'm not really as away as I was previously.01:44
james_wpersia: well then, close IRC :-)01:44
james_wpersia: are you in SF now?01:45
* psusi needs to read up more on the SRU process I guess01:45
persiajames_w, heh.  Well, as long as I've bandwidth, I may as well be around.  I am in SF now.01:46
james_wpersia: excellent, I will see you in...some hours then01:46
james_wtomorrow I guess01:46
persiaCool.01:47
ScottKNote that regressions need not be high severity to merit SRU.03:05
tonyyarussoSay, is the "404: Not found" error in flashplugin-nonfree in 8.04 new, or has it been like that for a while?03:21
Hobbseehave adobe updated their stuff again, then?03:21
tonyyarussoIt would appear so.03:22
Hobbseeneeds another SRU, then!03:22
tonyyarussoaroo?03:23
tonyyarussoThey offer a .deb for Ubuntu 8.04+ on the web site.  Didn't know that.03:23
tonyyarussoOh, I think I know why it's broken.03:24
ScottK-laptoptonyyarusso: Because it's flash?03:24
tonyyarussoThe url is get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, but Flash 9 is no longer current.  Flash 10 is.03:24
tonyyarussoScottK-laptop: that too :)03:24
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tonyyarussoHobbsee: For an SRU, would we need to find where they hid 9, or would 8.04 get upgraded to 10?03:25
Hobbseetonyyarusso: not sure.03:25
tonyyarussoHobbsee: Shall I just file a genericish bug against the package and let someone else figure it out then?03:26
ScottK-laptopDapper still has Flash 7 or 8, IIRC.03:27
Hobbseetonyyarusso: well, the obvious answer is "find who usually uploads the package, and if it's the same person all the time, ask them what they want done"03:27
Hobbseetonyyarusso: try fta / crimsun, as they've uploaded the last few03:27
Hobbseebut if you don't get an answer that way, and there's no existing bug, file one03:28
tonyyarussostupid adobe03:28
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AnAntsuperm1: Hello04:28
superm1hi AnAnt04:28
superm1i believe you've pinged me a bunch during my holiday04:29
AnAntsuperm1: yeah04:29
superm1i recall sponsoring your package shortly before i left though?04:29
superm1did something else come up with it?04:29
AnAntsuperm1: I didn't know that it got sponsored (because I forgot to put an LP: #nnnn) !04:29
AnAntsilly me04:29
superm1AnAnt, oh and silly me for not catching that! :)04:30
AnAntsuperm1: anyways, I saw dkms today on mentors.debian.net04:30
AnAntsuperm1: I wonder if you know anything about it04:30
AnAntsuperm1: I saw your replies on the ITP too04:30
superm1AnAnt, ah that's spectacular to hear. there was a discussion that got stirred up on debian devel a few months ago to bring it in04:30
superm1but i fizzled out and i'm not sure the end result04:31
superm1do you have a link to the upload to mentors?  i'm hoping it was the same fellow that uploaded it there.  dont want to start seeing things pulled in different directions04:31
AnAntsuperm1: yeah, same guy who filed the ITP that you replied at04:32
AnAnthttp://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=dkms04:32
superm1okay very good04:32
superm1wonder why it took so long for him to put it on mentors though04:32
AnAntseems that he based it on Ubuntu package04:34
AnAntand you are set as one of the uploaders04:34
AnAntcan someone help me with this debian bug 507340 ?04:36
ubottuDebian bug 507340 in sl-modem-daemon "sl-modem-daemon: User Slmodemd has home dir /" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/50734004:36
AnAntalthough I'm not sure wether it is a bug or not that the Slmodemd user has home dir /, I did decide to fix it, and set the home dir to  /var/log/slmodemd/04:36
AnAntyet, when I put this code (http://pastebin.com/m4ebf61d3) in postinst to fix the issue for those who are upgrading sl-modem package, and tried to install the package, I get a seg. fault from postinst04:39
AnAntcan someone advise me with this ?04:39
RAOFAnAnt: Is the daemon running at that point?04:44
AnAntRAOF: nope04:45
RAOFBecause man usermod says that it'll be most displeased if the user is logged in or running any programs.04:45
AnAntthere's nothing being run by Slmodemd04:46
superm1AnAnt, it's based off an old package though...04:59
superm1hum04:59
mase_workhey guys, is this the channel where i can get help packaging ?05:00
mdomschsuperm1, re dkms in debian: the manpage patch could be merged upstream05:00
mdomschit just s/-/\-/05:00
AnAntmase_work: yup05:01
mdomschwhy did David check it into svn.debian.org instead of continuing to point at the upstream git tree?05:01
mdomschvcs-svn and vcs-browser05:01
superm1i'm going to have to send him an email tomorrow about this05:02
superm1does debian not have a git tree server that would be able to clone to and then just do direct pulls?05:02
mdomschalioth says it's in cvs; the package says it's in svn05:04
mdomschweird05:04
mdomschand set up new mailing lists05:04
mase_workAnAnt:cool. I have a package which is in hardy and i would like to be able to add a patch to it,  and have apt use that package instead of the one in the hardy repository. I am aware this can be done, but there are alot of other packages which depend on this package so do i need to do repackage all of those as well ?05:04
AnAntwhy repacakge them ?05:06
mase_workAnAnt: well the package i want to add a patch to is dovecot-common and dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop depend on dovecot. what i would like to do is just add the patch and make the package without having to touch the others05:11
mase_workbut i don't want apt to then clobber the installed dovecot-common package if a security update is released05:11
ScottK-laptopmdomsch: Generally svn.debian.org just has the Debian packaging, not the upstream source.05:11
mdomschScottK, ah ok05:12
AnAntmase_work: sorry, I dunno05:12
fabrice_spHi. I fixed the issues detected by mok0's review of dvdstyler package (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler). could someone have a quick review, to check if I still miss something? Thanks!05:26
freeflyingfabrice_sp: what's debian.patch05:32
AnAntsuperm1: I have a question , you asked me to add linux-headers-generic | linux-headers in sl-modem-source Recommends field05:33
freeflyingfabrice_sp: why shall you mention Build dependency on libwxsvg-dev (>= 1:1.0) in changelog?05:33
superm1AnAnt, yes05:33
AnAntsuperm1: what should I do for Debian ? there is no linux-headers-generic there05:34
superm1AnAnt, in debian what is the linux headers package called?05:34
AnAntAnAnt: there are many packages that provide linux-headers virtual package05:34
fabrice_spfreeflying: it comes from upstream: they are building the packages with builddebian command, and apply debian.patch before05:34
superm1AnAnt, what's the most common case though05:34
AnAntsuperm1: dunno05:34
slytherinpersia: howdy05:35
fabrice_spand about mentioning explicit dependency: it has been requested by siretart05:35
freeflyingsuperm1: there has a lot flavours in debian, like 486 686 k7 etc05:35
fabrice_sp(comment of the 15th of November)05:35
AnAntsuperm1: linux-headers-2.6-486 maybe, since it's description is: Header files for Linux 2.6 on x8605:35
superm1AnAnt, well so the intention of that is so that you get the most common case05:35
superm1so you should probably make it $(DEBIAN_MOST_COMMON_LINUX_HEADERS_PACKAGE) | linux-headers-generic | linux-headers05:36
superm1and that would allow it to work on both debian and ubuntu05:36
AnAntwould debian approve that ?05:36
AnAntI mean approve " | linux-headers-generic " part ?05:36
AnAntsuperm1: is $(DEBIAN_MOST_COMMON_LINUX_HEADERS_PACKAGE), a variable that you just made up ?05:37
freeflyingfabrice_sp: you can document it in an README05:38
freeflyingfabrice_sp: and is this belong to graphics?05:38
superm1AnAnt, it's a variable i just made up yes :)05:39
superm1AnAnt, you can ask your sponsor in debian if they would be willing to add the | linux-headers-generic.  i've seen packages where they'll add in a small thing like that if it's the only delta to ubuntu.  it keeps maintenance easiest for all parties then05:39
AnAntok05:40
superm1AnAnt, so if you were to grab the i386 installer for debian, does it choose the kernel during install time, or it has a basic kernel it installs for everyone and you pick the more appropriate one later?05:41
fabrice_spfreeflying: will change my comment to README, then, and about graphics: it's the only section for 'multimedia' app (afaik)05:41
AnAntsuperm1: I dont use debian05:41
superm1AnAnt, if the former, then i'd say you are probably best with a 486 or 686 headers package by default, if the latter, then you should go with what gets installed by default05:41
superm1AnAnt, then making an educated decision is exponentially more difficult :)05:42
fabrice_spfreeflying: you mean README.source, right?05:43
AnAntsuperm1: ook05:44
freeflyingfabrice_sp: yes05:44
fabrice_spok05:45
superm1freeflying, perhaps do you know?05:46
freeflyingAnAnt: you'd better have a look of those modules in debian, to see how do they solve it05:46
AnAntfreeflying: no package in debian uses dkms yet05:46
freeflyingsuperm1: I haven't packaged anything relate to kernel :)05:47
superm1freeflying, but do you use debian? do you know what the default kernel that gets installed is for x86?  or is it selected at install time?05:47
freeflyingAnAnt: you'd better go to debian-mentors @ oftc for help05:47
freeflyingsuperm1: for me, I selected it manually :)05:48
AnAntsuperm1: I think that a virtual package is enough05:49
AnAntsuperm1: I just looked at openswan-modules-source Recommends: field05:49
superm1AnAnt, no it's not.  you need to have a default or the alternative virtual package05:50
superm1if something is depending on virtual package only, that's an error05:50
AnAntsuperm1: kernel-package (>= 7.04), linux-source05:50
superm1i believe even lintian tells you05:50
AnAntsuperm1: linux-source is a virtual package05:50
freeflyingAnAnt: btw, the way for maintain kernel is different in debian and ubuntu05:51
freeflyings/kernel/kernel package05:51
superm1http://lintian.debian.org/tags/virtual-package-depends-without-real-package-depends.html05:51
AnAntsuperm1: openswan is not one of them05:52
AnAntsuperm1: btw, only one package provides linux-source though !05:52
freeflyingfabrice_sp: where is the Homepage in debian/control05:53
fabrice_spfreeflying: you're right. I lost it in my multiples upgrades of the package.05:54
AnAntsuperm1: probably openswan is not listed in the URL you mentioned, because the virtual package is in Recommends not Depends field05:54
freeflyingfabrice_sp: you really need to hardcode in Depends?05:55
superm1AnAnt, probably, but it's the same principle.05:55
AnAntok05:55
fabrice_spfreeflying: yes. this are tools that are used by DVDStyler to generate the DVD.05:56
fabrice_spfreeflying: perhaps ffmpeg could be deleted because of libavcodec-unstripped being there. I'll try.05:57
fabrice_spand I'll move xine-ui to Recommends (but it will be installed by default in Intrepid)05:59
freeflyingfabrice_sp: and do remember document why don't u use the original one06:00
freeflyingfabrice_sp: and do remember document why don't u use the original source tarbal06:00
fabrice_spfreeflying: just have done it in the README.source :-)06:01
freeflyingfabrice_sp: usr/share/dvdstyler/data/empty_ntsc_ac3.mpg what's this for?06:15
fabrice_spfreeflying: for generating the default empty menu for NTSC format06:15
fabrice_spit's a kind of template06:15
freeflyingfabrice_sp: so dvdstyler can work without it?06:16
fabrice_spfreeflying: hmm, I don't think so, but I'll try deleting it, to check if it works. Why? Is there copyright issue with this file?06:17
freeflyingfabrice_sp: no, if its not necessary, you can split the package into two06:18
freeflyingfabrice_sp: lack of manpage06:19
fabrice_spfreeflying: I think it's mandatory, because I remember seeing that file in the generation log06:19
fabrice_spmanpage is in docs/dvdstyler.106:20
freeflyingfabrice_sp: ok06:20
freeflyingfabrice_sp: are u sure u have make it installed?06:22
fabrice_spfreeflying: In the resulting deb, it's in /usr/share/man/man1, so yes06:30
freeflyingfabrice_sp: ok06:32
freeflyingfabrice_sp: why is data/dvdstyler.desktop changed06:37
fabrice_spfreeflying: to remove warnings given by desktop-file-validate (last comments of mok0)06:41
freeflyingfabrice_sp: my fault, its a patch :) sorry06:45
fabrice_spfreeflying: np. Thanks for taking time to review dvdstyler. I've updated REVU with your comments, and will upload a new version to take them into account. thanks again!07:01
freeflyingfabrice_sp: u r welcome07:03
RAOFAny MOTU/DD crossovers feel like sponsoring a Debian upload?08:38
directhexany suggestions on how to package batguano-insane upstream which requires a snapshot of openjdk and gnu classpath sources?08:59
directhexa really big diff.gz, with the extra crap in debian/ ?08:59
Michelehello ppl :]09:00
Michelei should change my dput.cf for configure PORT, someone can help me ?09:00
Micheleho can i set port ?09:01
Michele*HOW*09:01
directhexMichele, as in TCP port number?09:02
Micheleyes09:02
Michelescp method09:02
directhexdon't quote me on this.........09:03
directhexbut consider setting Port for that host in ~/.ssh/config ?09:03
Michelefqdn = 10.0.0.2     method = scp incoming = ~debomatic/big/ login = debomatic allow_unsigned_uploads = 009:03
Michele(my .dput.cf)09:03
Michelebut sshd running in 222 TCP port09:04
Michelehow can i fix it ?09:04
directhex<directhex> don't quote me on this.........09:05
directhex<directhex> but consider setting Port for that host in ~/.ssh/config ?09:05
Micheleyes i read it :-]09:05
Michelebut i dont know how to really configure it09:05
_rubenwhy would you run ssh on a non-standard port?09:05
Michele_ruben: VM, anyway the problem is other09:06
directhexssh config is easy09:06
directhexHost 10.0.0.209:06
directhexPort 22209:06
Micheleok work09:07
MicheleThanks directhex09:07
_rubenwhy would a vm have its ssh on a diff port? oh well09:08
verwilsti run ssh on non-standard ports too09:10
verwilstwell, at least on public ip's09:10
_rubensecurity through obscurity? rather useless imo09:15
verwilstnah not really09:16
verwilstif it was only that, sure09:16
verwilstbut using it on a different port gets rid of any scans09:16
verwilstwhich are constant :)09:16
_rubenonly allowing pubkey auth pretty much is all you need for a secure ssh setup09:16
verwilstyou never know there is an ssh flaw that isnt patched or sth09:17
verwilst:)09:17
verwilst_ruben: sure, running on another port is just a small step for a secure(d) server :)09:17
_rubenyeah .. a step back imo .. it breaks more than it 'fixes' .. like with the example which started this discussion :)09:18
_rubenfor production/mission critical stuff, you dont want ssh open to the whole world anyways09:18
slytherindirecthex: why would a package need snapshot of openjdk?09:48
directhexslytherin, insanity09:49
slytherindirecthex: which project is it?09:49
directhexslytherin, ikvm09:49
slytherindirecthex: any pointers to the statement that it needs snapshots? And have you already tried building it with the openjdk in jaunty?09:51
directhexslytherin, ikvm-0.36.0.11/HOWTO09:55
eMerzhHi everyone... if someone is bored ... he could review my waiting package at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman thanks a lot :D10:23
directhexbeen at it a while, eMerzh :|10:24
directhexfunny thing, it seems REVU is slower than debian NEW at times o_o10:24
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Hobbseeslytherin: contentless repong?11:04
slytherinHobbsee: Are you free enough to clear 2 more packages from 'NEW'?11:04
Hobbseeslytherin: sources or binaries?11:04
slytherinHobbsee: binaries.11:05
slytherinHobbsee: libhibernate-validator-java and libhibernate-annotations-java11:06
Hobbseeslytherin: waved11:19
slytherinHobbsee: Thanks11:22
Hobbseeslytherin: you're welcome11:22
nxvlairports are SO boring11:22
directhexnxvl, wifi helps11:23
directhexnxvl, and IME, airports vary wildly in boringness11:24
nxvldirecthex: yup11:25
nxvldirecthex: that's true11:25
nxvldirecthex: and the boriness is direct relative to the wifi conection11:26
nxvldirecthex: worst conection, more boring11:26
directhexslytherin, what are the chances of the java team offering an openjdk-source package of some kind for handy build-depitude?11:38
slytherindirecthex: 100%, there is already a package, openjdk-6-source. Check if it serves the purpose.11:40
directhexif i (well, hanska) need to go further, is openjdk-6-source-files likely to stick around for long, or is it an ephemeral entry on experimental that'll disappear in the future?11:42
AnAntHello, regarding this merge request ( bug 305124 ) , is there something to do or someone to subscribe ?12:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 305124 in tspc "Candidate revision tspc_2.1.1-7ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30512412:25
AnAntHello, regarding this merge request ( bug 305124 ) , is there something to do or someone to subscribe ?12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 305124 in tspc "Candidate revision tspc_2.1.1-7ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30512412:36
AnAntHello, regarding this merge request ( bug 305124 ) , is there something to do or someone to subscribe ?12:46
AnAntsorry, I get disconnected a lot12:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 305124 in tspc "Candidate revision tspc_2.1.1-7ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30512412:46
HobbseeAnAnt: dude, spam?12:47
Hobbseehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing12:48
Hobbseenote the sponsorship queue stuff mentioned on ^12:48
directhexafternoon Hobbsee!12:53
Hobbseehey directhex!12:53
Hobbseewell, late evening, but... :)12:54
directhexHobbsee, i'm awaiting a flame war :)12:54
Hobbseedirecthex: where?12:55
directhexHobbsee, debian-devel, probably. look who turned up in NEW last night: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/moon_1.0~beta1-1.html12:56
Hobbseedirecthex: oh, fun.12:57
* Hobbsee hands you a flame-proof vest12:57
directhexHobbsee, i look forward to it ^_^12:57
Hobbsee:)12:57
directhexhm, am i a sociopath? o_o12:57
lagaare you already being called names?12:58
azeemI must have missed all those mono flamewars directhex is talking about12:59
Hobbseeazeem: there was a great post on ubuntu-motu a while ago about it12:59
azeemah12:59
Hobbseeand various people who have decided to flame #ubuntu-devel about mono13:00
azeemI thought they were related to Debian not Ubuntu13:00
Hobbseewell, they're both :)13:00
directhexlaga, over moon? yes. huge flame war on debian-devel;13:00
directhexlaga, starting with http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/10/msg00063.html13:01
azeemthat thread was mostly about mpeg encoders I thought13:02
directhexazeem, people got sidetracked, certainly. but robert doesn't half have a go on the itp bug itself13:03
directhexazeem, i reached the decision "i don't care about robert millan" between the ITP and yesterday's upload13:03
azeemeverybody mostly ignores Robert these days13:03
azeemand even then, I don't see how your conversation with im is a "huge flame war"13:04
azeemhim*13:04
directhexazeem, i was mostly offended that a former Gnash maintainer was using "it won't be 100% compatible with what it's a clone of" as a reason to reject13:04
azeemI was amused, but yes :)13:04
directhexoh, and boycottnovell picked up on it, and moaned about how i must be thick or something13:04
azeemok13:05
azeemyou just make it sounds like you have to battle/fight half of Debian every day about mono/moonlight, while in practise at most a couple of vocal people are speaking up against it13:05
directhexand their groupies are just the kind of ill-informed loudmouths who really help promote free software to the masses13:06
AnAntHobbsee: not spam, bad net connection13:09
AnAntHobbsee: anyways, thanks13:11
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slytherinAnAnt: the bug description is misleading. There is one Ubuntu change still not merged and hence you have a merge bug. Otherwise it would be a sync.13:17
directhexsmerge!13:19
AnAntslytherin: what change is not merged ?13:22
slytherinAnAnt: the one for which you submitted the diff, related to ipv6 module loading13:22
AnAntslytherin: sorry, disconnected again, what's not merged ?13:25
slytherinAnAnt: the one for which you submitted the diff, related to ipv6 module loading13:26
AnAntslytherin: yes, that's what I found in previous debdiff13:26
AnAntslytherin: in addition to debian/control changes (Maintainer field)13:26
slytherinAnAnt: yes, that is why I said that "All ubuntu changes have been merged" is a wrong description.13:27
AnAntslytherin: those are all what I found13:27
AnAntslytherin: well ?13:31
slytherinAnAnt: Please tell me what meaning did you intend to convey with "All Ubuntu changes have been merged".13:32
AnAntslytherin: I meant that all changes (that I found in the last debdiff from 2.1.1-6.1 to  2.1.1-6.1ubuntu1) were merged13:33
slytherinAnAnt: So that is what I couldn't understand. Usually when you file a merge bug, you should mention what ubuntu changes still need to be maintained or what changes have been already merged in Debian and can be dropped.13:36
slytherinAnAnt: So when you say "all changes have been merged" the usual meaning is that the changes have been merged in Debian and we don't need to maintain Ubuntu diff.13:37
AnAntah, I meant that I merged the changes in the debdiff I put13:38
persiaBetter to use language like "Merge from ${source}, Remaining Ubuntu changes:" and then list anything left over below.13:39
* directhex merges persia from ${source}13:39
sebnerpersia: \o/13:39
AnAntsource ?13:42
AnAntyou mean main13:43
persiaSomething like "Debian unstable" or "Debian experimental" or "Joe's nifty deb repo"13:44
AnAntok changed13:44
AnAntgot to reboot13:46
slytherinHobbsee: One more package please, so that I can go home and try building jboss. :-D - libhibernate-entitymanager-java13:53
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Koonslytherin: joining the Java meeting ?14:01
slytherinKoon: there14:01
slytherinKoon: persia is available.14:04
Koonpersia: if you want to chair let me know14:05
persiaNot really :)14:05
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bddebianHi sebner15:23
rjunehi bddebian15:23
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bddebianahhh :)16:00
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nixternalbddebian: you going to UDS?16:04
bddebianNah, I am gymnastics poor :(16:04
StevenKbddebian: What does gymnastics have to do with being poor?16:14
bddebianStevenK: My daughters' gymnastics classes cost us a buttload of money :(16:15
jdongStevenK: it means he has to bend over backwards for money?16:15
jdongoh. that works too.16:15
* StevenK smirks, and goes to breakfast.16:24
ScottKjdong: I'm not so sure about the backwards part.16:32
leonelscottK so  after looking at the disabled modules  in our case  chm   roll the diff  without that patch ??16:44
ScottKleonel: No.  We should include it.  My point is that your test doesn't mean the code isn't vulnerable, since the module is disabled.16:54
ScottKleonel: I'm talking with upstream about how we can arrange to get stuff re-enabled after patching.16:54
leonelscottK ok I'll wait since I cant find where to put the 2nd part16:55
ScottKleonel: If it's a question of waiting, let's go ahead without it and then do another update once it's sorted out.16:55
leonelscottK  I'll push what I got and  fix that latter16:56
ScottKleonel: Sounds good.16:56
leonelscottK I'm preparing another for   squirrelmail16:57
eMerzhOyé Oyé (in old french in the text) if You want to review a package, mine is waiting for you : http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman ... feel free to comment or advocate this! ;)17:16
TheMusoDoes anybody know off the top of their head the best and most up to date wiki page about chroots?17:35
lagaTheMuso: that's like asking for the best and most up to date wiki page about kittens. can you be a bit specific?17:36
TheMusoRight, I need to give someone a link to explain about chroots, and how we use them in Ubuntu, and the tools available.17:37
lagahum. the pbuilder documentation might be useful.. maybe also the other builders.17:39
TheMusoI might start with DebootstrapChroot, but I'll have a look around.17:39
lagasee, chroot is a system call. you can do a lot of things with it, and a lot of tools like ltsp-build-client and probably ubiquity etc use it17:39
lagayeah, debootstrap is important as well.17:40
lagaof course, my list is nowhere near completeness :)17:40
TheMusoAnyway, we will see if they write back with more questions.17:42
crevettehello18:00
crevetteIf someone could be kind enough to validate a sponsoring request and do it if he can (lp 305229)18:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 305229 in obex-data-server "[need-sponsoring] Upgrade to version 0.4.2 for jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30522918:02
TheMusoc18:10
RainCT++   :)18:11
* StevenK stuffs RainCT out an airlock18:12
RainCTStevenK: why? :(18:14
StevenKBecause C++ needs to DIAF18:14
RainCTStevenK: replaced by what?18:15
StevenKI don't care, anything that isn18:16
StevenK't C++18:16
lagajava \o/18:17
RainCTStevenK: as long as it isn't #, that's fine for me :P18:17
RainCTs/for/by18:19
psusiis there any reason for debian/rules to require root for a clean?18:35
azeem_it requires fakeroot18:35
psusiwell, it requires root, whether it be real or fake... my question is why ;)18:36
psusiroot should only be needed for make install18:36
psusiwhich debian/rules clean should not be running18:36
azeem_it needs to undo the effects of make install18:37
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psusihrm.... so if you really ran debian/build as root, instead of with fakeroot, it would not be able to rm the files in the build directory?18:38
azeemyes18:39
morgsI need help with an SRU for bug 263173, any motu-srus around?18:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 263173 in sugar-hulahop "Sugar Browse fails on startup" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26317318:52
leonelscottK bug #27154619:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271546 in clamav "[hardy] Multiple unfixed CVEs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27154619:08
leonelscottK hardy debdiff  done   working with dapper and  gutsy   remains open for the cve-2008-138919:09
ScottKleonel: Sounds good.19:09
ScottKleonel: You should add LP: #304017 to your references.19:15
leonelredo the diff ??19:17
leonelor some magic by the security team can do the magic ?19:17
ScottKleonel: You can just edit the diff and reupload it to LP since you aren't changing the number of lines.19:18
leonelscottK ok , didn't know that I can  edit the   debdiff by hand  ..19:20
ScottKleonel: As long as you don't change the number of lines, you can.19:20
ScottK... and you're careful.19:20
leoneldone19:21
ScottKBuilding here.19:22
logari81hi, which is the process to bring a new application in Ubuntu repos?19:43
hyperairlogari81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages19:47
ScottKleonel: Looks good here.19:51
leonelscottK great ..   building for dapper   and test19:55
frostburnthere's a manpage missing for a package, what would be the first step in remedying it?20:08
Laneywriting the manpage20:10
frostburnit's written, just not provided by the package20:11
logari81hyperair: thank you20:22
Laneyfrostburn: Does the package use debhelper?20:26
frostburnunsure20:27
psusiso I uploaded a bad package to my ppa... I deleted it... now when I try to upload the fixed version launchpad rejects it saying it was already uploaded... but I deleted it?20:32
Laneypsusi: Increase the version number20:32
jdongpsusi: deletion isn't instant20:33
jdongjust bump the package20:33
psusijdong: I waited a while and verified that it is no longer in the pool20:33
directhexwait longer!20:33
jdongthat's what she said?20:34
directhexcan take a few hours to really go20:34
jdong*ducks*20:34
psusifor what?  the pool is empty :)20:34
jdongok now you guys are just trying to tempt me.20:34
directhexpool's closed!20:34
JontheEchidnagotta remove the .upload file, or else dput won't let you re-upload20:34
Philip5don't know how offtopic this is but does anyone here know if it's possible to make pbuilder to halt if the the build breaks and if so i would like to login to the pbuilder session and look around.20:37
Philip5can it be done?20:38
Nafallocan definately be done. looked at the example hooks yet? :-)20:38
* JontheEchidna has a hook for that20:38
Philip5nope20:39
JontheEchidnaPhilip5: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks20:39
JontheEchidnalotsa useful hooks there20:39
JontheEchidnathough rtfm is recommended too :P20:40
azeemif $FTBFS == yes; then mail Ncommander < buildlog; fi20:40
NafalloPhilip5: now stay in the channel :-)20:40
Nafalloazeem: LOL20:40
Philip5Nafallo: maybe... ;)20:40
directhexazeem, that's not very nice20:40
NCommander....20:40
directhexazeem, if $FTBFS == yes && $ARCH != i386; then mail Ncommander < buildlog; fi20:41
directhexazeem, that's better!20:41
Nafalloey. exclude x86_64 as well :-)20:41
NCommanderthank you20:41
directhexNafallo, true. who uses ancient arches like m68k and i386 in this day & age?20:41
NCommanderdirecthex, uh ....20:41
NCommander...20:41
* NCommander is a m68k and hurd porter20:41
Nafallodirecthex: my EeePC?20:41
NCommanderof course, we're going to see a "bug_ncommander" script added to ubuntu-dev-tools20:42
Nafallonot both of them, but anyway...20:42
directhexNCommander, feel like fixing the asx parser in moonlight to work on big-endian arches?20:42
NCommanderWait20:42
NCommanderwe have a C# app that is platform specific?20:43
directhexNCommander, moon is c++ right now20:43
NCommanderI could look into it20:43
NCommanderbut there is nothing really worth it that is using moonlight?20:43
directhexright now? dunno, possibly not20:43
NCommanderBug me about it closer to feature freeze and once the ARM port is more stable20:44
directhexproblem is upstream have no big endian boxes, so can't readily test that little issue20:44
NCommanderI can give them a box20:44
NCommanderif there is a test suite, I'll consider it sooner20:44
directhexshower time.20:46
directhexNCommander, do you have an "unconventional" little endian system (e.g. armel) locally, which you could try a test-build of moon 1.0~beta1-1 on? in theory it should be as functional as on i386, if a fair bit slower at the whole "media" thing21:02
NCommandera bunch21:02
NCommanderpowerpc, sparc, hppa, armel21:02
directhexhm, i thought ppc was big endian. shows what i know21:04
leonelscottK bug #271546  done  Just  the  cve-2008-1389   is pending  ..21:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 271546 in clamav "[hardy] Multiple unfixed CVEs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27154621:13
directhexNCommander, if bored, give http://retro.apebox.org/moon/moon_1.0~beta1-1.dsc a punt on one of those (ppc and armel probably the most likely to matter)21:14
NCommanderhow big is it?21:14
directhexNCommander, source? about 12 meg, due to the huge test harness21:15
NCommandermy ARM box would slowly grind itself to death compiling that21:15
NCommanderI'll run it on the POwerPC when I plug it back in21:15
directhexactual debs produced add up to less than 700k21:16
directhexhttp://miguelmoreno.net/sandbox/Silverlight_0/ is a nice simple example. http://videoshow.vertigo.com/ is more flashy21:17
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eike_I maintain the source package for "osmo" in Debian and just fixed a bug that occures in Intrepid (see LP: #296243). I attached a debdiff against the version currently in Intrepid and tested the resulting .deb. Could anyone comment on this, please? This is the first time a do a stable update in Ubuntu...22:49
jdongstupid gnome terminal22:50
jdonghow do you get back a menu bar you got rid of22:50
jdongbecause someone picked a ridiculously easy to trigger shortcut for a worthless feature22:50
jdong*grumbles and censors some non-CoC compliant additional statements*22:50
azeemjdong: right click->show menubar22:52
azeemnot sure you meant that, though22:52
jdongoh, that works.22:52
jdongthanks.22:52
jdongstill, usability wise it's not very intuitive22:53
azeemcheers22:53
jdongrhythmbox gives me a stupid balloon for when I freaking minimize it to the system tray22:53
azeemthe only thing I need the menubar for is when I need to change encoding22:53
jdongOH GOD WHERE DID IT GO? I CLICKED THE TRAY ICON AND RHYTHMBOX *DISAPPEARED!!!!*22:53
azeemsomething which should be in the context menu as well IMO22:53
lagajdong: have you recently switched from kde?22:53
jdonglaga: nope22:53
jdongif we use balloons to hint users to look for an app in the system tray we should at least use a balloon to hint users where their menu has just gone.22:54
persia!sru22:54
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates22:54
persiabug #29624322:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 296243 in osmo "Osmo crashes on contacts search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29624322:55
jdongeike_: distribution should be intrepid-proposed, not intrepid22:55
eike_jdong: thanks for the hint, just uploaded the updated debdiff23:03
jdongeike_: alright, while you have me here I'll sponsor it :)23:06
eike_jdong: great, thanks a lot for your quick help!23:07
jdongeike_: sure thing; uploaded, awaiting approval23:08
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