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FAJ | hi, i am trying to set up a ppa, but am having difficulties with signing the ubuntu code of conduct... it says that there is no public key? | 01:25 |
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Hobbsee | again, try #launchpad | 01:25 |
FAJ | lol ;) ok thanks | 01:25 |
Hobbsee | oh, and patience, and cross-posting is bad | 01:25 |
FAJ | Hobbsee: i read the topic of devel and thought that it would be more appropriate to ask in here. | 01:26 |
Hobbsee | FAJ: ahhh. | 01:26 |
FAJ | ya... | 01:26 |
FAJ | i was like o you want me in here? ok i'll go there and post | 01:26 |
psusi | anyone else notice a rash of updated packages today that don't look like they should have been ( not security fixes or other high priority big fixes )? | 01:40 |
psusi | in Intrepid that is | 01:41 |
psusi | I thought only high priority bug fixes were supposed to get into -updates as an SRU? | 01:41 |
james_w | psusi: have an example? | 01:42 |
persia | psusi, Everything should have been approved by one of the SRU teams. Check the bugs in the changelogs. | 01:42 |
james_w | they should all be approved by the appropriate SRU team | 01:42 |
james_w | hello persia | 01:42 |
psusi | I'm looking at some.... right now I'm looking at the splix package, which fixed bug #292690, which is not a high priority bug | 01:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 292690 in splix "Garbage bitmaps printed on left margin in ubuntu testpage on A4 on Samsung printers" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292690 | 01:43 |
persia | james_w, Hey. | 01:43 |
james_w | persia: how was your holiday? | 01:44 |
psusi | hrm... maybe it just never had its priority field set properly but was supposed to be high priority now that I read into it a bit | 01:44 |
persia | james_w, It's been good so far. I've a bit left, but with bandwidth now find that I'm not really as away as I was previously. | 01:44 |
james_w | persia: well then, close IRC :-) | 01:44 |
james_w | persia: are you in SF now? | 01:45 |
* psusi needs to read up more on the SRU process I guess | 01:45 | |
persia | james_w, heh. Well, as long as I've bandwidth, I may as well be around. I am in SF now. | 01:46 |
james_w | persia: excellent, I will see you in...some hours then | 01:46 |
james_w | tomorrow I guess | 01:46 |
persia | Cool. | 01:47 |
ScottK | Note that regressions need not be high severity to merit SRU. | 03:05 |
tonyyarusso | Say, is the "404: Not found" error in flashplugin-nonfree in 8.04 new, or has it been like that for a while? | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | have adobe updated their stuff again, then? | 03:21 |
tonyyarusso | It would appear so. | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | needs another SRU, then! | 03:22 |
tonyyarusso | aroo? | 03:23 |
tonyyarusso | They offer a .deb for Ubuntu 8.04+ on the web site. Didn't know that. | 03:23 |
tonyyarusso | Oh, I think I know why it's broken. | 03:24 |
ScottK-laptop | tonyyarusso: Because it's flash? | 03:24 |
tonyyarusso | The url is get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, but Flash 9 is no longer current. Flash 10 is. | 03:24 |
tonyyarusso | ScottK-laptop: that too :) | 03:24 |
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tonyyarusso | Hobbsee: For an SRU, would we need to find where they hid 9, or would 8.04 get upgraded to 10? | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | tonyyarusso: not sure. | 03:25 |
tonyyarusso | Hobbsee: Shall I just file a genericish bug against the package and let someone else figure it out then? | 03:26 |
ScottK-laptop | Dapper still has Flash 7 or 8, IIRC. | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | tonyyarusso: well, the obvious answer is "find who usually uploads the package, and if it's the same person all the time, ask them what they want done" | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | tonyyarusso: try fta / crimsun, as they've uploaded the last few | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | but if you don't get an answer that way, and there's no existing bug, file one | 03:28 |
tonyyarusso | stupid adobe | 03:28 |
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AnAnt | superm1: Hello | 04:28 |
superm1 | hi AnAnt | 04:28 |
superm1 | i believe you've pinged me a bunch during my holiday | 04:29 |
AnAnt | superm1: yeah | 04:29 |
superm1 | i recall sponsoring your package shortly before i left though? | 04:29 |
superm1 | did something else come up with it? | 04:29 |
AnAnt | superm1: I didn't know that it got sponsored (because I forgot to put an LP: #nnnn) ! | 04:29 |
AnAnt | silly me | 04:29 |
superm1 | AnAnt, oh and silly me for not catching that! :) | 04:30 |
AnAnt | superm1: anyways, I saw dkms today on mentors.debian.net | 04:30 |
AnAnt | superm1: I wonder if you know anything about it | 04:30 |
AnAnt | superm1: I saw your replies on the ITP too | 04:30 |
superm1 | AnAnt, ah that's spectacular to hear. there was a discussion that got stirred up on debian devel a few months ago to bring it in | 04:30 |
superm1 | but i fizzled out and i'm not sure the end result | 04:31 |
superm1 | do you have a link to the upload to mentors? i'm hoping it was the same fellow that uploaded it there. dont want to start seeing things pulled in different directions | 04:31 |
AnAnt | superm1: yeah, same guy who filed the ITP that you replied at | 04:32 |
AnAnt | http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=dkms | 04:32 |
superm1 | okay very good | 04:32 |
superm1 | wonder why it took so long for him to put it on mentors though | 04:32 |
AnAnt | seems that he based it on Ubuntu package | 04:34 |
AnAnt | and you are set as one of the uploaders | 04:34 |
AnAnt | can someone help me with this debian bug 507340 ? | 04:36 |
ubottu | Debian bug 507340 in sl-modem-daemon "sl-modem-daemon: User Slmodemd has home dir /" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/507340 | 04:36 |
AnAnt | although I'm not sure wether it is a bug or not that the Slmodemd user has home dir /, I did decide to fix it, and set the home dir to /var/log/slmodemd/ | 04:36 |
AnAnt | yet, when I put this code (http://pastebin.com/m4ebf61d3) in postinst to fix the issue for those who are upgrading sl-modem package, and tried to install the package, I get a seg. fault from postinst | 04:39 |
AnAnt | can someone advise me with this ? | 04:39 |
RAOF | AnAnt: Is the daemon running at that point? | 04:44 |
AnAnt | RAOF: nope | 04:45 |
RAOF | Because man usermod says that it'll be most displeased if the user is logged in or running any programs. | 04:45 |
AnAnt | there's nothing being run by Slmodemd | 04:46 |
superm1 | AnAnt, it's based off an old package though... | 04:59 |
superm1 | hum | 04:59 |
mase_work | hey guys, is this the channel where i can get help packaging ? | 05:00 |
mdomsch | superm1, re dkms in debian: the manpage patch could be merged upstream | 05:00 |
mdomsch | it just s/-/\-/ | 05:00 |
AnAnt | mase_work: yup | 05:01 |
mdomsch | why did David check it into svn.debian.org instead of continuing to point at the upstream git tree? | 05:01 |
mdomsch | vcs-svn and vcs-browser | 05:01 |
superm1 | i'm going to have to send him an email tomorrow about this | 05:02 |
superm1 | does debian not have a git tree server that would be able to clone to and then just do direct pulls? | 05:02 |
mdomsch | alioth says it's in cvs; the package says it's in svn | 05:04 |
mdomsch | weird | 05:04 |
mdomsch | and set up new mailing lists | 05:04 |
mase_work | AnAnt:cool. I have a package which is in hardy and i would like to be able to add a patch to it, and have apt use that package instead of the one in the hardy repository. I am aware this can be done, but there are alot of other packages which depend on this package so do i need to do repackage all of those as well ? | 05:04 |
AnAnt | why repacakge them ? | 05:06 |
mase_work | AnAnt: well the package i want to add a patch to is dovecot-common and dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop depend on dovecot. what i would like to do is just add the patch and make the package without having to touch the others | 05:11 |
mase_work | but i don't want apt to then clobber the installed dovecot-common package if a security update is released | 05:11 |
ScottK-laptop | mdomsch: Generally svn.debian.org just has the Debian packaging, not the upstream source. | 05:11 |
mdomsch | ScottK, ah ok | 05:12 |
AnAnt | mase_work: sorry, I dunno | 05:12 |
fabrice_sp | Hi. I fixed the issues detected by mok0's review of dvdstyler package (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler). could someone have a quick review, to check if I still miss something? Thanks! | 05:26 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: what's debian.patch | 05:32 |
AnAnt | superm1: I have a question , you asked me to add linux-headers-generic | linux-headers in sl-modem-source Recommends field | 05:33 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: why shall you mention Build dependency on libwxsvg-dev (>= 1:1.0) in changelog? | 05:33 |
superm1 | AnAnt, yes | 05:33 |
AnAnt | superm1: what should I do for Debian ? there is no linux-headers-generic there | 05:34 |
superm1 | AnAnt, in debian what is the linux headers package called? | 05:34 |
AnAnt | AnAnt: there are many packages that provide linux-headers virtual package | 05:34 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: it comes from upstream: they are building the packages with builddebian command, and apply debian.patch before | 05:34 |
superm1 | AnAnt, what's the most common case though | 05:34 |
AnAnt | superm1: dunno | 05:34 |
slytherin | persia: howdy | 05:35 |
fabrice_sp | and about mentioning explicit dependency: it has been requested by siretart | 05:35 |
freeflying | superm1: there has a lot flavours in debian, like 486 686 k7 etc | 05:35 |
fabrice_sp | (comment of the 15th of November) | 05:35 |
AnAnt | superm1: linux-headers-2.6-486 maybe, since it's description is: Header files for Linux 2.6 on x86 | 05:35 |
superm1 | AnAnt, well so the intention of that is so that you get the most common case | 05:35 |
superm1 | so you should probably make it $(DEBIAN_MOST_COMMON_LINUX_HEADERS_PACKAGE) | linux-headers-generic | linux-headers | 05:36 |
superm1 | and that would allow it to work on both debian and ubuntu | 05:36 |
AnAnt | would debian approve that ? | 05:36 |
AnAnt | I mean approve " | linux-headers-generic " part ? | 05:36 |
AnAnt | superm1: is $(DEBIAN_MOST_COMMON_LINUX_HEADERS_PACKAGE), a variable that you just made up ? | 05:37 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: you can document it in an README | 05:38 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: and is this belong to graphics? | 05:38 |
superm1 | AnAnt, it's a variable i just made up yes :) | 05:39 |
superm1 | AnAnt, you can ask your sponsor in debian if they would be willing to add the | linux-headers-generic. i've seen packages where they'll add in a small thing like that if it's the only delta to ubuntu. it keeps maintenance easiest for all parties then | 05:39 |
AnAnt | ok | 05:40 |
superm1 | AnAnt, so if you were to grab the i386 installer for debian, does it choose the kernel during install time, or it has a basic kernel it installs for everyone and you pick the more appropriate one later? | 05:41 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: will change my comment to README, then, and about graphics: it's the only section for 'multimedia' app (afaik) | 05:41 |
AnAnt | superm1: I dont use debian | 05:41 |
superm1 | AnAnt, if the former, then i'd say you are probably best with a 486 or 686 headers package by default, if the latter, then you should go with what gets installed by default | 05:41 |
superm1 | AnAnt, then making an educated decision is exponentially more difficult :) | 05:42 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: you mean README.source, right? | 05:43 |
AnAnt | superm1: ook | 05:44 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: yes | 05:44 |
fabrice_sp | ok | 05:45 |
superm1 | freeflying, perhaps do you know? | 05:46 |
freeflying | AnAnt: you'd better have a look of those modules in debian, to see how do they solve it | 05:46 |
AnAnt | freeflying: no package in debian uses dkms yet | 05:46 |
freeflying | superm1: I haven't packaged anything relate to kernel :) | 05:47 |
superm1 | freeflying, but do you use debian? do you know what the default kernel that gets installed is for x86? or is it selected at install time? | 05:47 |
freeflying | AnAnt: you'd better go to debian-mentors @ oftc for help | 05:47 |
freeflying | superm1: for me, I selected it manually :) | 05:48 |
AnAnt | superm1: I think that a virtual package is enough | 05:49 |
AnAnt | superm1: I just looked at openswan-modules-source Recommends: field | 05:49 |
superm1 | AnAnt, no it's not. you need to have a default or the alternative virtual package | 05:50 |
superm1 | if something is depending on virtual package only, that's an error | 05:50 |
AnAnt | superm1: kernel-package (>= 7.04), linux-source | 05:50 |
superm1 | i believe even lintian tells you | 05:50 |
AnAnt | superm1: linux-source is a virtual package | 05:50 |
freeflying | AnAnt: btw, the way for maintain kernel is different in debian and ubuntu | 05:51 |
freeflying | s/kernel/kernel package | 05:51 |
superm1 | http://lintian.debian.org/tags/virtual-package-depends-without-real-package-depends.html | 05:51 |
AnAnt | superm1: openswan is not one of them | 05:52 |
AnAnt | superm1: btw, only one package provides linux-source though ! | 05:52 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: where is the Homepage in debian/control | 05:53 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: you're right. I lost it in my multiples upgrades of the package. | 05:54 |
AnAnt | superm1: probably openswan is not listed in the URL you mentioned, because the virtual package is in Recommends not Depends field | 05:54 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: you really need to hardcode in Depends? | 05:55 |
superm1 | AnAnt, probably, but it's the same principle. | 05:55 |
AnAnt | ok | 05:55 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: yes. this are tools that are used by DVDStyler to generate the DVD. | 05:56 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: perhaps ffmpeg could be deleted because of libavcodec-unstripped being there. I'll try. | 05:57 |
fabrice_sp | and I'll move xine-ui to Recommends (but it will be installed by default in Intrepid) | 05:59 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: and do remember document why don't u use the original one | 06:00 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: and do remember document why don't u use the original source tarbal | 06:00 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: just have done it in the README.source :-) | 06:01 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: usr/share/dvdstyler/data/empty_ntsc_ac3.mpg what's this for? | 06:15 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: for generating the default empty menu for NTSC format | 06:15 |
fabrice_sp | it's a kind of template | 06:15 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: so dvdstyler can work without it? | 06:16 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: hmm, I don't think so, but I'll try deleting it, to check if it works. Why? Is there copyright issue with this file? | 06:17 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: no, if its not necessary, you can split the package into two | 06:18 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: lack of manpage | 06:19 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: I think it's mandatory, because I remember seeing that file in the generation log | 06:19 |
fabrice_sp | manpage is in docs/dvdstyler.1 | 06:20 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: ok | 06:20 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: are u sure u have make it installed? | 06:22 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: In the resulting deb, it's in /usr/share/man/man1, so yes | 06:30 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: ok | 06:32 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: why is data/dvdstyler.desktop changed | 06:37 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: to remove warnings given by desktop-file-validate (last comments of mok0) | 06:41 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: my fault, its a patch :) sorry | 06:45 |
fabrice_sp | freeflying: np. Thanks for taking time to review dvdstyler. I've updated REVU with your comments, and will upload a new version to take them into account. thanks again! | 07:01 |
freeflying | fabrice_sp: u r welcome | 07:03 |
RAOF | Any MOTU/DD crossovers feel like sponsoring a Debian upload? | 08:38 |
directhex | any suggestions on how to package batguano-insane upstream which requires a snapshot of openjdk and gnu classpath sources? | 08:59 |
directhex | a really big diff.gz, with the extra crap in debian/ ? | 08:59 |
Michele | hello ppl :] | 09:00 |
Michele | i should change my dput.cf for configure PORT, someone can help me ? | 09:00 |
Michele | ho can i set port ? | 09:01 |
Michele | *HOW* | 09:01 |
directhex | Michele, as in TCP port number? | 09:02 |
Michele | yes | 09:02 |
Michele | scp method | 09:02 |
directhex | don't quote me on this......... | 09:03 |
directhex | but consider setting Port for that host in ~/.ssh/config ? | 09:03 |
Michele | fqdn = 10.0.0.2 method = scp incoming = ~debomatic/big/ login = debomatic allow_unsigned_uploads = 0 | 09:03 |
Michele | (my .dput.cf) | 09:03 |
Michele | but sshd running in 222 TCP port | 09:04 |
Michele | how can i fix it ? | 09:04 |
directhex | <directhex> don't quote me on this......... | 09:05 |
directhex | <directhex> but consider setting Port for that host in ~/.ssh/config ? | 09:05 |
Michele | yes i read it :-] | 09:05 |
Michele | but i dont know how to really configure it | 09:05 |
_ruben | why would you run ssh on a non-standard port? | 09:05 |
Michele | _ruben: VM, anyway the problem is other | 09:06 |
directhex | ssh config is easy | 09:06 |
directhex | Host 10.0.0.2 | 09:06 |
directhex | Port 222 | 09:06 |
Michele | ok work | 09:07 |
Michele | Thanks directhex | 09:07 |
_ruben | why would a vm have its ssh on a diff port? oh well | 09:08 |
verwilst | i run ssh on non-standard ports too | 09:10 |
verwilst | well, at least on public ip's | 09:10 |
_ruben | security through obscurity? rather useless imo | 09:15 |
verwilst | nah not really | 09:16 |
verwilst | if it was only that, sure | 09:16 |
verwilst | but using it on a different port gets rid of any scans | 09:16 |
verwilst | which are constant :) | 09:16 |
_ruben | only allowing pubkey auth pretty much is all you need for a secure ssh setup | 09:16 |
verwilst | you never know there is an ssh flaw that isnt patched or sth | 09:17 |
verwilst | :) | 09:17 |
verwilst | _ruben: sure, running on another port is just a small step for a secure(d) server :) | 09:17 |
_ruben | yeah .. a step back imo .. it breaks more than it 'fixes' .. like with the example which started this discussion :) | 09:18 |
_ruben | for production/mission critical stuff, you dont want ssh open to the whole world anyways | 09:18 |
slytherin | directhex: why would a package need snapshot of openjdk? | 09:48 |
directhex | slytherin, insanity | 09:49 |
slytherin | directhex: which project is it? | 09:49 |
directhex | slytherin, ikvm | 09:49 |
slytherin | directhex: any pointers to the statement that it needs snapshots? And have you already tried building it with the openjdk in jaunty? | 09:51 |
directhex | slytherin, ikvm-0.36.0.11/HOWTO | 09:55 |
eMerzh | Hi everyone... if someone is bored ... he could review my waiting package at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman thanks a lot :D | 10:23 |
directhex | been at it a while, eMerzh :| | 10:24 |
directhex | funny thing, it seems REVU is slower than debian NEW at times o_o | 10:24 |
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Hobbsee | slytherin: contentless repong? | 11:04 |
slytherin | Hobbsee: Are you free enough to clear 2 more packages from 'NEW'? | 11:04 |
Hobbsee | slytherin: sources or binaries? | 11:04 |
slytherin | Hobbsee: binaries. | 11:05 |
slytherin | Hobbsee: libhibernate-validator-java and libhibernate-annotations-java | 11:06 |
Hobbsee | slytherin: waved | 11:19 |
slytherin | Hobbsee: Thanks | 11:22 |
Hobbsee | slytherin: you're welcome | 11:22 |
nxvl | airports are SO boring | 11:22 |
directhex | nxvl, wifi helps | 11:23 |
directhex | nxvl, and IME, airports vary wildly in boringness | 11:24 |
nxvl | directhex: yup | 11:25 |
nxvl | directhex: that's true | 11:25 |
nxvl | directhex: and the boriness is direct relative to the wifi conection | 11:26 |
nxvl | directhex: worst conection, more boring | 11:26 |
directhex | slytherin, what are the chances of the java team offering an openjdk-source package of some kind for handy build-depitude? | 11:38 |
slytherin | directhex: 100%, there is already a package, openjdk-6-source. Check if it serves the purpose. | 11:40 |
directhex | if i (well, hanska) need to go further, is openjdk-6-source-files likely to stick around for long, or is it an ephemeral entry on experimental that'll disappear in the future? | 11:42 |
AnAnt | Hello, regarding this merge request ( bug 305124 ) , is there something to do or someone to subscribe ? | 12:25 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 305124 in tspc "Candidate revision tspc_2.1.1-7ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305124 | 12:25 |
AnAnt | Hello, regarding this merge request ( bug 305124 ) , is there something to do or someone to subscribe ? | 12:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 305124 in tspc "Candidate revision tspc_2.1.1-7ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305124 | 12:36 |
AnAnt | Hello, regarding this merge request ( bug 305124 ) , is there something to do or someone to subscribe ? | 12:46 |
AnAnt | sorry, I get disconnected a lot | 12:46 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 305124 in tspc "Candidate revision tspc_2.1.1-7ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305124 | 12:46 |
Hobbsee | AnAnt: dude, spam? | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | note the sponsorship queue stuff mentioned on ^ | 12:48 |
directhex | afternoon Hobbsee! | 12:53 |
Hobbsee | hey directhex! | 12:53 |
Hobbsee | well, late evening, but... :) | 12:54 |
directhex | Hobbsee, i'm awaiting a flame war :) | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | directhex: where? | 12:55 |
directhex | Hobbsee, debian-devel, probably. look who turned up in NEW last night: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/moon_1.0~beta1-1.html | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | directhex: oh, fun. | 12:57 |
* Hobbsee hands you a flame-proof vest | 12:57 | |
directhex | Hobbsee, i look forward to it ^_^ | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | :) | 12:57 |
directhex | hm, am i a sociopath? o_o | 12:57 |
laga | are you already being called names? | 12:58 |
azeem | I must have missed all those mono flamewars directhex is talking about | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | azeem: there was a great post on ubuntu-motu a while ago about it | 12:59 |
azeem | ah | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | and various people who have decided to flame #ubuntu-devel about mono | 13:00 |
azeem | I thought they were related to Debian not Ubuntu | 13:00 |
Hobbsee | well, they're both :) | 13:00 |
directhex | laga, over moon? yes. huge flame war on debian-devel; | 13:00 |
directhex | laga, starting with http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/10/msg00063.html | 13:01 |
azeem | that thread was mostly about mpeg encoders I thought | 13:02 |
directhex | azeem, people got sidetracked, certainly. but robert doesn't half have a go on the itp bug itself | 13:03 |
directhex | azeem, i reached the decision "i don't care about robert millan" between the ITP and yesterday's upload | 13:03 |
azeem | everybody mostly ignores Robert these days | 13:03 |
azeem | and even then, I don't see how your conversation with im is a "huge flame war" | 13:04 |
azeem | him* | 13:04 |
directhex | azeem, i was mostly offended that a former Gnash maintainer was using "it won't be 100% compatible with what it's a clone of" as a reason to reject | 13:04 |
azeem | I was amused, but yes :) | 13:04 |
directhex | oh, and boycottnovell picked up on it, and moaned about how i must be thick or something | 13:04 |
azeem | ok | 13:05 |
azeem | you just make it sounds like you have to battle/fight half of Debian every day about mono/moonlight, while in practise at most a couple of vocal people are speaking up against it | 13:05 |
directhex | and their groupies are just the kind of ill-informed loudmouths who really help promote free software to the masses | 13:06 |
AnAnt | Hobbsee: not spam, bad net connection | 13:09 |
AnAnt | Hobbsee: anyways, thanks | 13:11 |
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slytherin | AnAnt: the bug description is misleading. There is one Ubuntu change still not merged and hence you have a merge bug. Otherwise it would be a sync. | 13:17 |
directhex | smerge! | 13:19 |
AnAnt | slytherin: what change is not merged ? | 13:22 |
slytherin | AnAnt: the one for which you submitted the diff, related to ipv6 module loading | 13:22 |
AnAnt | slytherin: sorry, disconnected again, what's not merged ? | 13:25 |
slytherin | AnAnt: the one for which you submitted the diff, related to ipv6 module loading | 13:26 |
AnAnt | slytherin: yes, that's what I found in previous debdiff | 13:26 |
AnAnt | slytherin: in addition to debian/control changes (Maintainer field) | 13:26 |
slytherin | AnAnt: yes, that is why I said that "All ubuntu changes have been merged" is a wrong description. | 13:27 |
AnAnt | slytherin: those are all what I found | 13:27 |
AnAnt | slytherin: well ? | 13:31 |
slytherin | AnAnt: Please tell me what meaning did you intend to convey with "All Ubuntu changes have been merged". | 13:32 |
AnAnt | slytherin: I meant that all changes (that I found in the last debdiff from 2.1.1-6.1 to 2.1.1-6.1ubuntu1) were merged | 13:33 |
slytherin | AnAnt: So that is what I couldn't understand. Usually when you file a merge bug, you should mention what ubuntu changes still need to be maintained or what changes have been already merged in Debian and can be dropped. | 13:36 |
slytherin | AnAnt: So when you say "all changes have been merged" the usual meaning is that the changes have been merged in Debian and we don't need to maintain Ubuntu diff. | 13:37 |
AnAnt | ah, I meant that I merged the changes in the debdiff I put | 13:38 |
persia | Better to use language like "Merge from ${source}, Remaining Ubuntu changes:" and then list anything left over below. | 13:39 |
* directhex merges persia from ${source} | 13:39 | |
sebner | persia: \o/ | 13:39 |
AnAnt | source ? | 13:42 |
AnAnt | you mean main | 13:43 |
persia | Something like "Debian unstable" or "Debian experimental" or "Joe's nifty deb repo" | 13:44 |
AnAnt | ok changed | 13:44 |
AnAnt | got to reboot | 13:46 |
slytherin | Hobbsee: One more package please, so that I can go home and try building jboss. :-D - libhibernate-entitymanager-java | 13:53 |
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Koon | slytherin: joining the Java meeting ? | 14:01 |
slytherin | Koon: there | 14:01 |
slytherin | Koon: persia is available. | 14:04 |
Koon | persia: if you want to chair let me know | 14:05 |
persia | Not really :) | 14:05 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 15:21 |
sebner | hi bddebian | 15:22 |
bddebian | Hi sebner | 15:23 |
rjune | hi bddebian | 15:23 |
bddebian | Hello rjune | 15:24 |
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geser | Hi bddebian | 15:38 |
bddebian | Heya geser | 15:46 |
nixternal | boo | 15:57 |
bddebian | ahhh :) | 16:00 |
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nixternal | bddebian: you going to UDS? | 16:04 |
bddebian | Nah, I am gymnastics poor :( | 16:04 |
StevenK | bddebian: What does gymnastics have to do with being poor? | 16:14 |
bddebian | StevenK: My daughters' gymnastics classes cost us a buttload of money :( | 16:15 |
jdong | StevenK: it means he has to bend over backwards for money? | 16:15 |
jdong | oh. that works too. | 16:15 |
* StevenK smirks, and goes to breakfast. | 16:24 | |
ScottK | jdong: I'm not so sure about the backwards part. | 16:32 |
leonel | scottK so after looking at the disabled modules in our case chm roll the diff without that patch ?? | 16:44 |
ScottK | leonel: No. We should include it. My point is that your test doesn't mean the code isn't vulnerable, since the module is disabled. | 16:54 |
ScottK | leonel: I'm talking with upstream about how we can arrange to get stuff re-enabled after patching. | 16:54 |
leonel | scottK ok I'll wait since I cant find where to put the 2nd part | 16:55 |
ScottK | leonel: If it's a question of waiting, let's go ahead without it and then do another update once it's sorted out. | 16:55 |
leonel | scottK I'll push what I got and fix that latter | 16:56 |
ScottK | leonel: Sounds good. | 16:56 |
leonel | scottK I'm preparing another for squirrelmail | 16:57 |
eMerzh | Oyé Oyé (in old french in the text) if You want to review a package, mine is waiting for you : http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman ... feel free to comment or advocate this! ;) | 17:16 |
TheMuso | Does anybody know off the top of their head the best and most up to date wiki page about chroots? | 17:35 |
laga | TheMuso: that's like asking for the best and most up to date wiki page about kittens. can you be a bit specific? | 17:36 |
TheMuso | Right, I need to give someone a link to explain about chroots, and how we use them in Ubuntu, and the tools available. | 17:37 |
laga | hum. the pbuilder documentation might be useful.. maybe also the other builders. | 17:39 |
TheMuso | I might start with DebootstrapChroot, but I'll have a look around. | 17:39 |
laga | see, chroot is a system call. you can do a lot of things with it, and a lot of tools like ltsp-build-client and probably ubiquity etc use it | 17:39 |
laga | yeah, debootstrap is important as well. | 17:40 |
laga | of course, my list is nowhere near completeness :) | 17:40 |
TheMuso | Anyway, we will see if they write back with more questions. | 17:42 |
crevette | hello | 18:00 |
crevette | If someone could be kind enough to validate a sponsoring request and do it if he can (lp 305229) | 18:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 305229 in obex-data-server "[need-sponsoring] Upgrade to version 0.4.2 for jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305229 | 18:02 |
TheMuso | c | 18:10 |
RainCT | ++ :) | 18:11 |
* StevenK stuffs RainCT out an airlock | 18:12 | |
RainCT | StevenK: why? :( | 18:14 |
StevenK | Because C++ needs to DIAF | 18:14 |
RainCT | StevenK: replaced by what? | 18:15 |
StevenK | I don't care, anything that isn | 18:16 |
StevenK | 't C++ | 18:16 |
laga | java \o/ | 18:17 |
RainCT | StevenK: as long as it isn't #, that's fine for me :P | 18:17 |
RainCT | s/for/by | 18:19 |
psusi | is there any reason for debian/rules to require root for a clean? | 18:35 |
azeem_ | it requires fakeroot | 18:35 |
psusi | well, it requires root, whether it be real or fake... my question is why ;) | 18:36 |
psusi | root should only be needed for make install | 18:36 |
psusi | which debian/rules clean should not be running | 18:36 |
azeem_ | it needs to undo the effects of make install | 18:37 |
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psusi | hrm.... so if you really ran debian/build as root, instead of with fakeroot, it would not be able to rm the files in the build directory? | 18:38 |
azeem | yes | 18:39 |
morgs | I need help with an SRU for bug 263173, any motu-srus around? | 18:52 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 263173 in sugar-hulahop "Sugar Browse fails on startup" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263173 | 18:52 |
leonel | scottK bug #271546 | 19:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 271546 in clamav "[hardy] Multiple unfixed CVEs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271546 | 19:08 |
leonel | scottK hardy debdiff done working with dapper and gutsy remains open for the cve-2008-1389 | 19:09 |
ScottK | leonel: Sounds good. | 19:09 |
ScottK | leonel: You should add LP: #304017 to your references. | 19:15 |
leonel | redo the diff ?? | 19:17 |
leonel | or some magic by the security team can do the magic ? | 19:17 |
ScottK | leonel: You can just edit the diff and reupload it to LP since you aren't changing the number of lines. | 19:18 |
leonel | scottK ok , didn't know that I can edit the debdiff by hand .. | 19:20 |
ScottK | leonel: As long as you don't change the number of lines, you can. | 19:20 |
ScottK | ... and you're careful. | 19:20 |
leonel | done | 19:21 |
ScottK | Building here. | 19:22 |
logari81 | hi, which is the process to bring a new application in Ubuntu repos? | 19:43 |
hyperair | logari81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 19:47 |
ScottK | leonel: Looks good here. | 19:51 |
leonel | scottK great .. building for dapper and test | 19:55 |
frostburn | there's a manpage missing for a package, what would be the first step in remedying it? | 20:08 |
Laney | writing the manpage | 20:10 |
frostburn | it's written, just not provided by the package | 20:11 |
logari81 | hyperair: thank you | 20:22 |
Laney | frostburn: Does the package use debhelper? | 20:26 |
frostburn | unsure | 20:27 |
psusi | so I uploaded a bad package to my ppa... I deleted it... now when I try to upload the fixed version launchpad rejects it saying it was already uploaded... but I deleted it? | 20:32 |
Laney | psusi: Increase the version number | 20:32 |
jdong | psusi: deletion isn't instant | 20:33 |
jdong | just bump the package | 20:33 |
psusi | jdong: I waited a while and verified that it is no longer in the pool | 20:33 |
directhex | wait longer! | 20:33 |
jdong | that's what she said? | 20:34 |
directhex | can take a few hours to really go | 20:34 |
jdong | *ducks* | 20:34 |
psusi | for what? the pool is empty :) | 20:34 |
jdong | ok now you guys are just trying to tempt me. | 20:34 |
directhex | pool's closed! | 20:34 |
JontheEchidna | gotta remove the .upload file, or else dput won't let you re-upload | 20:34 |
Philip5 | don't know how offtopic this is but does anyone here know if it's possible to make pbuilder to halt if the the build breaks and if so i would like to login to the pbuilder session and look around. | 20:37 |
Philip5 | can it be done? | 20:38 |
Nafallo | can definately be done. looked at the example hooks yet? :-) | 20:38 |
* JontheEchidna has a hook for that | 20:38 | |
Philip5 | nope | 20:39 |
JontheEchidna | Philip5: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks | 20:39 |
JontheEchidna | lotsa useful hooks there | 20:39 |
JontheEchidna | though rtfm is recommended too :P | 20:40 |
azeem | if $FTBFS == yes; then mail Ncommander < buildlog; fi | 20:40 |
Nafallo | Philip5: now stay in the channel :-) | 20:40 |
Nafallo | azeem: LOL | 20:40 |
Philip5 | Nafallo: maybe... ;) | 20:40 |
directhex | azeem, that's not very nice | 20:40 |
NCommander | .... | 20:40 |
directhex | azeem, if $FTBFS == yes && $ARCH != i386; then mail Ncommander < buildlog; fi | 20:41 |
directhex | azeem, that's better! | 20:41 |
Nafallo | ey. exclude x86_64 as well :-) | 20:41 |
NCommander | thank you | 20:41 |
directhex | Nafallo, true. who uses ancient arches like m68k and i386 in this day & age? | 20:41 |
NCommander | directhex, uh .... | 20:41 |
NCommander | ... | 20:41 |
* NCommander is a m68k and hurd porter | 20:41 | |
Nafallo | directhex: my EeePC? | 20:41 |
NCommander | of course, we're going to see a "bug_ncommander" script added to ubuntu-dev-tools | 20:42 |
Nafallo | not both of them, but anyway... | 20:42 |
directhex | NCommander, feel like fixing the asx parser in moonlight to work on big-endian arches? | 20:42 |
NCommander | Wait | 20:42 |
NCommander | we have a C# app that is platform specific? | 20:43 |
directhex | NCommander, moon is c++ right now | 20:43 |
NCommander | I could look into it | 20:43 |
NCommander | but there is nothing really worth it that is using moonlight? | 20:43 |
directhex | right now? dunno, possibly not | 20:43 |
NCommander | Bug me about it closer to feature freeze and once the ARM port is more stable | 20:44 |
directhex | problem is upstream have no big endian boxes, so can't readily test that little issue | 20:44 |
NCommander | I can give them a box | 20:44 |
NCommander | if there is a test suite, I'll consider it sooner | 20:44 |
directhex | shower time. | 20:46 |
directhex | NCommander, do you have an "unconventional" little endian system (e.g. armel) locally, which you could try a test-build of moon 1.0~beta1-1 on? in theory it should be as functional as on i386, if a fair bit slower at the whole "media" thing | 21:02 |
NCommander | a bunch | 21:02 |
NCommander | powerpc, sparc, hppa, armel | 21:02 |
directhex | hm, i thought ppc was big endian. shows what i know | 21:04 |
leonel | scottK bug #271546 done Just the cve-2008-1389 is pending .. | 21:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 271546 in clamav "[hardy] Multiple unfixed CVEs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271546 | 21:13 |
directhex | NCommander, if bored, give http://retro.apebox.org/moon/moon_1.0~beta1-1.dsc a punt on one of those (ppc and armel probably the most likely to matter) | 21:14 |
NCommander | how big is it? | 21:14 |
directhex | NCommander, source? about 12 meg, due to the huge test harness | 21:15 |
NCommander | my ARM box would slowly grind itself to death compiling that | 21:15 |
NCommander | I'll run it on the POwerPC when I plug it back in | 21:15 |
directhex | actual debs produced add up to less than 700k | 21:16 |
directhex | http://miguelmoreno.net/sandbox/Silverlight_0/ is a nice simple example. http://videoshow.vertigo.com/ is more flashy | 21:17 |
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eike_ | I maintain the source package for "osmo" in Debian and just fixed a bug that occures in Intrepid (see LP: #296243). I attached a debdiff against the version currently in Intrepid and tested the resulting .deb. Could anyone comment on this, please? This is the first time a do a stable update in Ubuntu... | 22:49 |
jdong | stupid gnome terminal | 22:50 |
jdong | how do you get back a menu bar you got rid of | 22:50 |
jdong | because someone picked a ridiculously easy to trigger shortcut for a worthless feature | 22:50 |
jdong | *grumbles and censors some non-CoC compliant additional statements* | 22:50 |
azeem | jdong: right click->show menubar | 22:52 |
azeem | not sure you meant that, though | 22:52 |
jdong | oh, that works. | 22:52 |
jdong | thanks. | 22:52 |
jdong | still, usability wise it's not very intuitive | 22:53 |
azeem | cheers | 22:53 |
jdong | rhythmbox gives me a stupid balloon for when I freaking minimize it to the system tray | 22:53 |
azeem | the only thing I need the menubar for is when I need to change encoding | 22:53 |
jdong | OH GOD WHERE DID IT GO? I CLICKED THE TRAY ICON AND RHYTHMBOX *DISAPPEARED!!!!* | 22:53 |
azeem | something which should be in the context menu as well IMO | 22:53 |
laga | jdong: have you recently switched from kde? | 22:53 |
jdong | laga: nope | 22:53 |
jdong | if we use balloons to hint users to look for an app in the system tray we should at least use a balloon to hint users where their menu has just gone. | 22:54 |
persia | !sru | 22:54 |
ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 22:54 |
persia | bug #296243 | 22:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 296243 in osmo "Osmo crashes on contacts search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296243 | 22:55 |
jdong | eike_: distribution should be intrepid-proposed, not intrepid | 22:55 |
eike_ | jdong: thanks for the hint, just uploaded the updated debdiff | 23:03 |
jdong | eike_: alright, while you have me here I'll sponsor it :) | 23:06 |
eike_ | jdong: great, thanks a lot for your quick help! | 23:07 |
jdong | eike_: sure thing; uploaded, awaiting approval | 23:08 |
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