| asac | sectech: what size does that file have? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| sectech | asac, the file is about 5mb... | 00:02 |
| sectech | After looking into it a bit more... The issue doesn't seem to be that it is taking a lot to parse it.. it's that it's not releasing the memory after | 00:03 |
| sectech | I'm doing a valgrind to see what that produces | 00:04 |
| asac | sectech: did you try to narrow down which parts cause that? | 00:04 |
| asac | e.g. maybe removing the options helps? | 00:05 |
| sectech | someone added to the report saying that it might be trying to parse a 100k tag line... and that changing <pre> to <xmp> avoids it | 00:06 |
| sectech | Sorry I don't have much experience debugging firefox issues | 00:08 |
| sectech | I do have some crc mismatches in the valgrind... | 00:08 |
| sectech | other then that... nothing out of the ordinary | 00:08 |
| fta | asac, it seems the songbird issue with the builders solves itself after 2 hours of no activity | 00:13 |
| asac | fta: huh? | 00:15 |
| fta | indeed :) huh | 00:16 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=building | 00:16 |
| fta | they are all stuck at the same place | 00:16 |
| fta | yesterday, i got them killed after 1h | 00:17 |
| asac | fta: so the unpack takes 2h? | 00:18 |
| asac | or do they use zero resources while being stuck? | 00:18 |
| fta | the check, not the unpack | 00:18 |
| asac | sectech: i think its just a OOM thing | 00:18 |
| fta | no one knows | 00:18 |
| asac | sectech: just the pre also causes this | 00:19 |
| asac | e.g. without the othe relements | 00:19 |
| asac | when loading as plai text it works. but from what i can see there are no tags in the text | 00:19 |
| sectech | asac, is this a known issue? | 00:19 |
| sectech | No there doesn't seem to be any tags in the text itself... | 00:20 |
| asac | sectech: there are plenty ways to make ffox OOM or even make it crash | 00:20 |
| asac | they are classified as DoS which are usually low priority | 00:21 |
| asac | partly because they cannot be exploited ... and partly because its just quite hard to fix completely | 00:21 |
| sectech | K... should I bother sending this upstream or just leave it as low? | 00:21 |
| asac | sectech: would be interesting to see what happened in ffox 2 ... if its a clear regression then definitly forward | 00:22 |
| asac | otherwise it depends on how important you find it. but most likely its a dupe | 00:22 |
| sectech | I was thinking dup... but I can't find anything (although launchpad isn't exactly cooperating at the moment) that really suits it yet.... Still looking | 00:22 |
| sectech | I can test in FF2 in the morning... | 00:22 |
| sectech | I found a few upstream... but not to much recent | 00:23 |
| asac | which component did you search? | 00:23 |
| sectech | I tried launchpad and bugzilla for the mozilla project | 00:24 |
| asac | sectech: i mean in mozilla ... which components did you look at ;) ... if you search just from top level its unlikely to give any good results ;) | 00:24 |
| sectech | top level... | 00:25 |
| asac | look in Core -> layout or content | 00:25 |
| asac | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/query.cgi | 00:25 |
| sectech | okay | 00:25 |
| sectech | yeah I see what you mean.... | 00:27 |
| sectech | ooookkk... | 00:27 |
| asac | DOM: stuff ... layout, parser | 00:31 |
| asac | sectech: | 00:32 |
| asac | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330029 | 00:32 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 330029 in DOM: Core & HTML "DoS caused by memory exhaustion" [Normal,New] | 00:32 |
| asac | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304634 | 00:32 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 304634 in DOM: Core & HTML "DoS with onBlur="alert('doh!'); focus();"" [Critical,New] | 00:32 |
| asac | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201552 | 00:32 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 201552 in DOM: Core & HTML "Recursive JS function crashes Mozilla" [Critical,New] | 00:32 |
| sectech | yeah asac I see that there are tons... | 00:33 |
| sectech | I flagged the bug as a low priority on launchpad and added my notes... | 00:33 |
| asac | sectech: the ones most critical are the recursive ones | 00:33 |
| asac | but even those are usually just "low" security severity | 00:33 |
| asac | like just a DoS ... due to stack limits | 00:34 |
| asac | flat stuff that doesnt do recursion usually just eats all the memory | 00:34 |
| sectech | When I first saw the report I thought there was something fishy about it... | 00:34 |
| asac | and slows things down if you swap ... then finally OOM | 00:34 |
| asac | DoS arent nice, but fortunately not exploitable in a really harmful way | 00:34 |
| sectech | I was initially just going to look for a dup as there probably is one even on launchpad... or test it so I can rule it out as a major issue | 00:35 |
| sectech | true enough | 00:35 |
| asac | yeah. its not from what i can see | 00:35 |
| asac | not a security bug at least | 00:35 |
| asac | annoying sure | 00:35 |
| sectech | K...I am dropping it as such then... | 00:35 |
| sectech | is a valgrind usually helpful in this situation though? I would like to triage more firefox issues but I don't really know what you guys use | 00:36 |
| sectech | normally if I can't see a solution quickly I'll leave it be | 00:36 |
| sectech | for firefox that is | 00:36 |
| asac | sectech: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330029#c1 | 00:37 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 330029 in DOM: Core & HTML "DoS caused by memory exhaustion" [Normal,New] | 00:37 |
| asac | thats a prototypical answer for these bugs | 00:37 |
| asac | sectech: depends on what you want to triage | 00:37 |
| asac | sectech: first step is definitly to identify what component the bug comes from. most are already files and there is good start information in bugs | 00:38 |
| asac | if it comes down to crashes you look at debugger, valgrind, but of course also in code | 00:38 |
| sectech | yeah that might be a good start... look to see what was done in previous bugs | 00:38 |
| asac | but mozilla code baes is quite huge | 00:38 |
| asac | so some bugs might be impossible to solve ;) | 00:39 |
| sectech | indeed which is why they are so damn hard to triage lol | 00:39 |
| asac | until you know what is going on where | 00:39 |
| sectech | ahh well... I'll do what I can I guess... | 00:39 |
| asac | ;) | 00:39 |
| sectech | thank you for looking at this one though | 00:39 |
| asac | welcome | 00:40 |
| asac | sectech: good thing is to | 00:40 |
| asac | look at launchpad bugs ... clean them up and try to find the right upstream component | 00:41 |
| asac | and forward them ;) | 00:41 |
| asac | or find the dupes | 00:41 |
| sectech | I can do that... | 00:41 |
| asac | not forever, but to start with ;) | 00:42 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook | 00:42 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/NormalizedBugFormat | 00:42 |
| asac | the less fulfilling is certainly to process incomplete bugs | 00:42 |
| sectech | true but at least with incomplete bugs I can help getting them pointed in the right direction | 00:43 |
| sectech | or dropped like this one | 00:43 |
| sectech | I just bookmarked both of those, thanks | 00:44 |
| asac | sectech: well. confirmed bugs are not always complete ;) | 00:44 |
| asac | especially in launchpad where everybody can confirm bugs things go mad | 00:44 |
| sectech | heh yeah and for some reason I always seem to go for the fresh "new" ones lol | 00:44 |
| sectech | yeah people being able to confirm things without bugcontrol access is a bit annoying sometimes. | 00:45 |
| asac | imo its ok to ask incomplete bugs or new bug reporters to bring the bug in the normalized form | 00:45 |
| asac | that will help so much later | 00:45 |
| sectech | confirmed for one person might not be confirmed for the triager. | 00:45 |
| asac | we have the state Triage | 00:45 |
| asac | d | 00:45 |
| sectech | true | 00:45 |
| asac | only deverlops or people in the bug-control team can use that | 00:45 |
| sectech | I am a fairly new member of bug-control | 00:46 |
| asac | cool | 00:46 |
| sectech | compared to the rest who have years of experience with it :P | 00:46 |
| asac | sectech: so when a bug is in the normalized format we can look how to forward that | 00:46 |
| asac | e.g. set it to triaged | 00:46 |
| sectech | okay... | 00:46 |
| asac | i am sure that being fresh is of benefit here ;) | 00:47 |
| asac | firefox bugs are certainly something where you work full time on | 00:48 |
| asac | s/you/you can/ | 00:48 |
| sectech | hehe. my fear is making myself look like a fool when I make a final decision on an issue... it has happened before | 00:48 |
| sectech | yeah I know you guys are pretty busy just dealing with reports. | 00:48 |
| asac | problem is that every bug you touch triggers about 5 mails in responses by average until the bug is closed or silent | 00:48 |
| asac | so if you touch 100 today ... tomorrow you have to answer 500 ;) | 00:49 |
| sectech | Yeah I noticed... I am not new to triaging... I actually do this for my real job just to a different extent... | 00:50 |
| sectech | At work you don't get 10 people challenging your decision... here you do lol | 00:50 |
| asac | that sounds like you could succeed ;) | 00:50 |
| asac | yeah | 00:50 |
| asac | but well | 00:50 |
| asac | hardest part is to be "always" nice | 00:50 |
| asac | ;) | 00:50 |
| sectech | haha yeah your right on that... | 00:51 |
| asac | feel free to ask what to do if in doubt for some bugs | 00:51 |
| sectech | What I think I'll do is watch the firefox bugs and the mozilla bug tracker for what I do here.... and take firefox bugs as what I focus on | 00:52 |
| sectech | rather then trying to be the jack of all trades and triage everything under the sun | 00:53 |
| sectech | I like being specialized I guess | 00:53 |
| asac | sectech: i wouldnt watch ... better use launchpad to pick things ;) | 00:53 |
| asac | there is a huge pile of existing bugs | 00:53 |
| asac | you can try to watch that, but traffic is really high | 00:54 |
| asac | we have a mailing list where most mozilla related bugs in launchpad would go | 00:54 |
| asac | (if you are interested) | 00:54 |
| sectech | okay well ... that was implied... I was going to look through old issues and become familiar with how they were handled. | 00:54 |
| sectech | Ummmm... don't think I would want to see every bug posted to the firefox team.. lol | 00:55 |
| asac | sectech: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs | 00:55 |
| sectech | mailbox might get a bit full | 00:55 |
| asac | what i do is to have a gmail account where all stuff goes | 00:55 |
| asac | but i only use that for searching | 00:55 |
| sectech | That's actually a good idea... | 00:55 |
| asac | i pick things through launchpad and get mails i answered to in my normal mail account | 00:55 |
| asac | so i can at least follow up on stuff i started | 00:56 |
| sectech | my domain mail is handled by google anyway... I could create an account just for that... | 00:56 |
| asac | i have one gmail account for mozillateam in ubuntu ... and one for almost all bugzilla.mozilla bugs | 00:56 |
| asac | so in november that mailing list got 3000+ mails | 00:57 |
| sectech | I have an ubuntu-bugs for what I triage... but it would be easy enough to create a mozilla one. | 00:57 |
| sectech | lol | 00:57 |
| asac | err october | 00:57 |
| asac | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2008-October/thread.html | 00:57 |
| asac | thats just firefox mostly | 00:57 |
| asac | and some thunderbird/seamonkey i think | 00:57 |
| asac | but those are neglectable | 00:57 |
| sectech | yeah... thank you google for giving us huge mailboxes lol | 00:57 |
| sectech | ... and the poster to that bug I first mentioned sent it upstream... | 00:58 |
| asac | oh november has exactly 3000 | 00:58 |
| asac | thats cool | 00:58 |
| asac | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2008-November/thread.html ;) | 00:58 |
| asac | sectech: heh. well. we cannot help upstream ;) they have their own sinks where nobody really looks at | 00:59 |
| sectech | I'll at least link it for him I guess | 00:59 |
| asac | we can help ... but we cannot prevent users from posting duplicates directly | 00:59 |
| asac | sure | 00:59 |
| asac | sectech: do you have the bug id? | 00:59 |
| asac | its a dupe of the exhausting bug | 01:00 |
| asac | i can mark it then | 01:00 |
| sectech | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467846 | 01:00 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 467846 in General "Memory balloons disproportionally to the size of text file being opened" [Normal,New] | 01:00 |
| asac | disproportionally? | 01:00 |
| sectech | LOL | 01:00 |
| asac | so it claims its exponential= | 01:00 |
| asac | or just by factor 100 ;)? | 01:01 |
| sectech | he added that... no idea lol lol | 01:01 |
| asac | sectech: that bug was files against Firefox:General | 01:03 |
| asac | so thats one of the sinks | 01:03 |
| sectech | good to know... don't file against general lol | 01:03 |
| sectech | Before I send stuff upstream I would always consult with someone else first anyway... | 01:04 |
| sectech | so chances are I would be told where to file it under | 01:04 |
| asac | yes | 01:05 |
| asac | ask me or [reed] or someone else here or on irc.mozilla.org | 01:06 |
| asac | ;) | 01:06 |
| sectech | ok | 01:06 |
| sectech | well I gotta run for tonight... | 01:07 |
| asac | cu | 01:07 |
| sectech | Thanks again asac, Im sure I'll be talking to you again soon | 01:08 |
| fta | asac, i think i should push prism to jaunty, i was waiting for a release but it's taking ages. a snapshot could do. after all, the current one is a snapshot too. | 01:30 |
| fta | what do you think? | 01:30 |
| tonyyarusso | fta: I hear you've done some of the recent flashplugin-nonfree uploads, is that correct? | 03:44 |
| mconnor | I hope fta's in bed | 03:54 |
| mconnor | just sayin | 03:54 |
| [reed] | what time is it in Paris? :) | 03:56 |
| mconnor | 5 AM | 03:58 |
| * mconnor looks at flights, takes shot | 04:00 | |
| asac | tonyyarusso: whast up about flashplugin? | 09:31 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: it's broken in 8.04. Adobe moved the file, so it 404s. | 09:33 |
| directhex | yay for adobe :/ | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | is rm broken for anyone in jaunty? | 09:48 |
| gnomefreak | this shouldnt happen "gnomefreak@Development:~/documents/personal$ rm John's_Cingular.xls | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | > | 09:49 |
| fta | \' | 09:50 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: ok its time to fix the package then. | 09:51 |
| asac | it needs to pull stuff not from adobe.com, but from partner.canonical archive | 09:51 |
| asac | there it will be available for a bit longer and not just disappear | 09:52 |
| gnomefreak | fta: what PPA is tbird-3 in? | 09:59 |
| gnomefreak | im getting a 404 on the my PPA for jaunty | 09:59 |
| gnomefreak | ah no tbird-3 for jaunty and mt PPA doesnt have jaunty packages | 10:03 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: maybe i misunderstood but im hearing firefox-3.1 is being tracked as 3.2? something about mozilla-central tracking 3.1 as 3.2 | 10:08 |
| [reed] | firefox-3.1 has moved to /releases/mozilla-1.9.1 | 10:08 |
| [reed] | mozilla-central is currently "Firefox 3.2a1pre", but that's still up for discussion | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | that makes more sense thanks | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | asac: the meeting on the 7th being postponed due to UDS? | 10:43 |
| asac | gnomefreak: good question. | 10:44 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think that might make sense | 10:44 |
| asac | gnomefreak: can you send a follow up? | 10:44 |
| asac | and say that we postpone it by 2 weeks? ;) | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | what do you mean? to the mailing list? or to fridge? | 10:44 |
| asac | OTOH, during UDS we might be able to do a phone conf ;) | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | on a sunday? its that the day everyone goes out and first meeting is? | 10:45 |
| asac | bug 284507 | 10:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284507 in ubuntu "error monitoring wired ethernet link state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284507 | 10:48 |
| asac | gnomefreak: fta and me arrive on sat. sun is free | 10:49 |
| asac | but its during lunch time ;) | 10:49 |
| asac | fta2: ? | 10:49 |
| fta2 | i have no plan for sunday.. mostly due to the fact that i have no car. | 10:50 |
| asac | gnome bug 561941 | 10:52 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 561941 in VPN: pptp "PPTP fails to bind (via VPN) to Exchange server 2003 & 2008" [Blocker,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561941 | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | asac: as far as i know im free on sunday but i will know more tomorrow or tonight the soonest | 10:54 |
| gnomefreak | i will ask that fridge remove our meeting | 10:54 |
| asac | gnomefreak: well | 10:56 |
| asac | i think that fta2 ment that we can do the meeting | 10:56 |
| asac | gnomefreak: so all should be ok | 10:57 |
| asac | we can do it i guess ;) | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | lets do it than :) | 10:57 |
| asac | gnome bug #561807 | 10:57 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 561807 in gio "inotify_sub.c :: dup_dirname() fails to remove trailing '/'" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561807 | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | hey firefox bug (im guessing its more of a ubufox bug but please review bug um who removed the help-report a bug from firefox? | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | oh crap bug 304005 | 11:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 304005 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3 plugin installer - missing spanish translation" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304005 | 11:33 |
| gnomefreak | sorry got side tracked when posting that | 11:34 |
| gnomefreak | asac: did tony talk to you about flash? | 11:38 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yes | 11:39 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 11:39 |
| asac | gnomefreak: not sure if he is doing something now though | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill check with him on it, last time it was a disaster but 10 wasnt released at that time | 11:58 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill be back im heading to see how gary is doing on his own today. | 12:03 |
| asac | bug 30000 | 13:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 30000 in gnome-system-tools "Start of week is Tuesday - change not obvious (dup-of: 29192)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30000 | 13:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 29192 in gnome-panel "clock-applet, week starts at tuesday not monday" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29192 | 13:10 |
| asac | bug 300000 | 13:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 300000 in libgtk2-perl "FTBFS fix for libgtk2-perl" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300000 | 13:10 |
| asac | too bad ... hoped that ffox gest the 300k bug | 13:11 |
| Jazzva | asac, there is a new patch for nspluginwrapper posted on their list. It is said that it would fix some of its failings to work, which I noticed during the last night testing | 13:26 |
| Jazzva | asac, if you haven't pushed the version I prepared yesterday, please wait a bit, until I give a try to this new patch :) | 13:27 |
| Jazzva | thanks | 13:27 |
| Jazzva | what is our policy for uploading mozilla-related patches? do we notify ubuntu universe/main sponsors, or someone from our team? | 13:35 |
| asac | Jazzva: sure. please intergrate the patch | 13:45 |
| asac | Jazzva: we dont notify anyone. If you cannot find a sponsor here, we have a problem ;) | 13:46 |
| Jazzva | asac, it was a question asked on a bug 297169 | 13:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 297169 in mozvoikko "mozvoikko depends on iceweasel, should depend on firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297169 | 13:48 |
| Jazzva | umm.. i asked a wrong question :). should the uploader notify us or ubuntu sponsors... | 13:48 |
| fta2 | could someone try songbird in my ppa? | 13:50 |
| asac | Jazzva: as long as its not integrated in your firefox-extensions project i dont see why they should notice us | 13:51 |
| asac | of course we provide input if they ask about it | 13:51 |
| asac | or offer to put that thing in firefox-extensions | 13:51 |
| Nafallo | fta2: kiko seems to be eager ;-) | 13:51 |
| fta2 | Nafallo, i know, but i need a kick test from someone | 13:51 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 13:52 |
| Jazzva | asac, ok | 13:52 |
| Jazzva | fta2, if it's there for intrepid too, I can give it a try in a while... | 13:53 |
| fta2 | Jazzva, yes, hardy/intrepid/jaunty | 13:53 |
| Jazzva | cool | 13:53 |
| fta2 | i just need to know if you are able to play any mp3 you have | 13:53 |
| fta2 | it's fine for me at home but here, i get: Error: GStreamer error: Internal data flow error. Additional information: gstbasesrc.c(2234): gst_base_src_loop (): /GstPlayBin2:player/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin2/GstFileSrc:source: | 13:54 |
| fta2 | streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1) | 13:54 |
| Jazzva | ok, I'm installing it to check | 13:54 |
| Jazzva | fta, I can | 13:56 |
| Jazzva | fta2 ^ | 13:56 |
| fta2 | you can play sounds? | 13:57 |
| Jazzva | "sounds" as in "music files"? yes | 13:58 |
| fta2 | great | 13:58 |
| Jazzva | play, pause, play next... | 13:58 |
| fta2 | so the gst bug is on my side only | 13:58 |
| fta2 | Jazzva, i386 or amd64? | 13:58 |
| Jazzva | 32-bit version of Ubuntu | 13:59 |
| Jazzva | but 64-bit processor | 13:59 |
| fta2 | so i386. ok. i'm on adm64 here | 14:01 |
| fta2 | anyone on amd64? | 14:02 |
| directhex | of course | 14:06 |
| directhex | who uses obsolete arches like m68k and i386? o_o | 14:06 |
| Jazzva | directhex, people with older computers ;)? (at least for i386) | 14:07 |
| Jazzva | (and I guess for m68k too) | 14:07 |
| fta2 | directhex, can you please test songbird for me? | 14:13 |
| directhex | 5 mins | 14:15 |
| asac | fta2: can you look a minute at the code of libio-pty-perl | 14:19 |
| asac | and libipc-run-perl | 14:19 |
| asac | and tell me how the quality is ;) | 14:19 |
| directhex | i wonder if it still only parses metadata on 6/2600 of my songs | 14:21 |
| asac | directhex: test ;) | 14:22 |
| fta2 | asac, packaging ? or the code itself ? | 14:24 |
| fta2 | i'm going back to boring meetings in 5 minutes | 14:25 |
| directhex | note to self: you run hardy at work | 14:30 |
| directhex | okay, fta2, seems to work | 14:36 |
| directhex | not exactly lightweight though, and i say that as a banshee user :o | 14:36 |
| fta2 | directhex, that's the mashup addon, drop it, it should be better | 14:52 |
| directhex | fta, 9 meg saved. | 14:54 |
| directhex | now only 2.5x what RB uses | 14:55 |
| sebner | fta2: you might want to add a comment on bug #94494 (again) ^^ | 14:57 |
| fta2 | the cpu is lower, not sure about memory, i have 4Gigs | 14:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 94494 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Songbird" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94494 | 14:57 |
| * asac out for a while | 14:57 | |
| sebner | asac: hf ;D | 14:57 |
| Jazzva | hmm, asac, nspluginwrapper fails on blip.fm almost every time, both with and without the recent patches. | 15:31 |
| Jazzva | off for few hours... see you later | 16:07 |
| Jazzva | asac, ping | 18:16 |
| === lns_ is now known as Lns | ||
| [reed] | jcastro / fta / asac / stevel: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=48573442145 | 18:54 |
| [reed] | looks like stevel is already attending :) | 18:55 |
| * stevel nods | 18:56 | |
| stevel | with t-shirts! | 18:56 |
| jcastro | woo! | 18:56 |
| jcastro | some joomla! folks just signed up like yesterday | 18:56 |
| jcastro | I was just at the location today, the food is going to be great | 18:57 |
| jcastro | plenty o' whiteboards and stuff | 18:57 |
| [reed] | jcastro: you have a vehicle to yourself? just trying to see how we can get to Mozilla for the open house... it's a mile, so we could walk it, but alternate forms of transportation are fun, too! | 18:59 |
| jcastro | [reed]: I've got local friends with cars and we have rentals | 19:01 |
| [reed] | yeah | 19:02 |
| [reed] | jcastro: how many are you planning on bringing? | 19:02 |
| [reed] | from UDS | 19:02 |
| jcastro | I was thinking | 19:02 |
| jcastro | fta, asac, me and maybe jono? | 19:02 |
| stevel | [reed] i'll be driving over too | 19:02 |
| [reed] | jcastro: and me! | 19:02 |
| [reed] | :p | 19:02 |
| stevel | i can fit 3 more in my car | 19:02 |
| jcastro | and then you and dave camp, but he's already a mozillian | 19:02 |
| [reed] | dcamp is coming to UDS? | 19:03 |
| [reed] | well, I'll have my badge, so I can give you all the real tour ;) | 19:03 |
| [reed] | since I'm sure Buffy will be blocking the stairs | 19:04 |
| [reed] | Buffy the Vampire Slayer, that is | 19:04 |
| [reed] | we have a life-size cut out | 19:04 |
| [reed] | use it to block the stairs at events like this | 19:05 |
| [reed] | :p | 19:05 |
| Jazzva | asac, I checked now. shouldn't the settings file for adobe be /etc/adobe/mms.cfg? (I think you said mmm.cfg yesterday) | 19:21 |
| fta | [reed], i don't have a facebook account | 20:11 |
| [reed] | fta: you non-hip thirty-something year old | 20:12 |
| [reed] | :0 | 20:12 |
| fta | shame on me ? | 20:12 |
| [reed] | yes ;0 | 20:12 |
| fta | it's not that popular in europe | 20:12 |
| Nafallo | ehrm | 20:13 |
| Nafallo | is it not? | 20:13 |
| fta | at least, most of my friends, contacts, business contacts don't have one | 20:13 |
| Nafallo | there is a reason they are putting in equipment in 7 EU sites... | 20:13 |
| fta | probably a generation issue | 20:14 |
| fta | i don't like to expose my life on internet | 20:14 |
| [reed] | fta prefers just to keep the tubes flowing ;) | 20:15 |
| fta | what were you talking about? Wednesday eve? | 20:23 |
| Nafallo | also, my mother poked me on facebook this morning. just before she wrote about the snow in Sweden on my wall :-P | 20:24 |
| fta | ok, so facebook is for the ricains + the frozen guys in northern europe | 20:26 |
| fta | :) | 20:26 |
| fta | oh, there was a topic about facebook on tv: http://www.tvmag.com/programme/france-2/magazine/26245013/envoye-special.html | 20:33 |
| mconnor | fta: so, is there a UDS schedule yet? | 20:34 |
| mconnor | fta: more importantly, when are the sessions I should stop by for? | 20:36 |
| fta | jcastro, ^^ | 20:36 |
| mconnor | fta (and asac!): I want to sit down and figure out how to smooth out the process for getting stuff upstream, and getting better engagement from reviewers and the like | 20:37 |
| fta | mconnor, i don't have the schedule yet, but i'm not a canonical guy | 20:37 |
| mconnor | I don't think I can make all of UDS, I have a pile of crap to get traction on next week, so hopefully reed's semi-fail on showing up on time compresses the sessions together ;) | 20:39 |
| mconnor | jcastro: btw, upstream bug workflow is entirely on my radar here :) | 20:40 |
| [reed] | mconnor: I have exams! I had no choice. :0 | 20:41 |
| mconnor | [reed]: you had a choice! | 20:41 |
| mconnor | wasn't a _good_ choice | 20:42 |
| mconnor | but you had one ;) | 20:42 |
| [reed] | mconnor: My manager and his manager would disagree. ;) | 20:43 |
| mconnor | you have choice, just because you don't like the consequences doesnt' mean you don't have choices :P | 20:43 |
| fta | the rss feed for tags in mozilla-central is not reliable | 20:53 |
| fta | it keeps updating the old tags | 20:53 |
| fta | bad hgweb | 20:53 |
| jcastro | mconnor: I am trying to get the schedule guy to open the schedule asap. | 21:17 |
| mconnor | jcastro: ok | 21:17 |
| jcastro | mconnor: he's still on holiday so I will hunt someone down nlt today | 21:18 |
| mconnor | the more we compress the mozilla stuff, the more I can reliably make ;) | 21:18 |
| jcastro | nod | 21:18 |
| jcastro | mconnor: we're having a party next friday night as well that you guys are more than welcome to attend | 21:23 |
| mconnor | jcastro: cool, if I'm not dead by then I'll likely make it ;) | 21:24 |
| jcastro | I have a direct mandate to try cross-community pollination and team building | 21:25 |
| jcastro | aka beer. | 21:25 |
| fta | mconnor, are you coming? i thought you said you had enough travel for this year | 21:30 |
| stevel | fta: the expand-jar-mn.pl bug is fixed in our trunk now | 21:45 |
| fta | stevel, good, thanks. i'll drop my patch next time i bump the source | 21:46 |
| fta | s | 21:46 |
| fta | stevel, btw, at work, sb doesn't work. | 21:48 |
| fta | <fta2> it's fine for me at home but here, i get: Error: GStreamer error: Internal data flow error. Additional information: gstbasesrc.c(2234): gst_base_src_loop (): /GstPlayBin2:player/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin2/GstFileSrc:source: | 21:48 |
| fta | <fta2> streaming task paused, reason not-linked (-1) | 21:48 |
| stevel | huh | 21:48 |
| stevel | fta: could you poke MikeS on #songbird? | 21:49 |
| fta | stevel, just did, not helping :( | 21:55 |
| stevel | sigh. distribution-bias. some developers here don't care to support building against system-wide libraries. | 21:56 |
| [reed] | stevel: well, there are cases where it's not feasible | 21:57 |
| [reed] | like cairo in Gecko | 21:57 |
| [reed] | or libjpeg | 21:57 |
| [reed] | or libpng | 21:57 |
| stevel | [reed]: sure. | 21:57 |
| fta | cairo is possible, jpeg is dead upstream, png, you added apng | 21:57 |
| stevel | but it would still be nice for us not to immediately dismiss things with a blanket "oh you built it yourself? then you're on your own" | 21:58 |
| stevel | (which we don't generally do... but every once in a while we do...) | 21:58 |
| stevel | and it annoys me when we do it :-P | 21:58 |
| fta | he said gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad is missing, which is true, but rhythmbox is fine with the same files. strange | 22:08 |
| fta | too bad i can't test until i'm back from uds | 22:09 |
| === rzr is now known as rZr | ||
| mconnor | fta: I decided that getting the rest of this stuff squared away was more important | 22:42 |
| fta | good | 22:43 |
| mconnor | fta: like... at 11 PM last night | 22:43 |
| mconnor | :) | 22:43 |
| [reed] | jcastro: is there any type of discount/group code with supershuttle we're supposed to use, or just book it normally? | 23:04 |
| jcastro | [reed]: book normal, keep receipt | 23:24 |
| [reed] | ok | 23:24 |
| [reed] | I got the $3 discount code I found online ;) | 23:24 |
| [reed] | s/the/a/ | 23:24 |
| fta | stevel, fyi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-11-02#Actions 2nd action | 23:48 |
| stevel | oooh. so ominous sounding | 23:48 |
| fta | :) | 23:48 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!