[00:46] <toorima> jphillip: using 8.10 upgraded from 8.04
[00:47] <toorima> this was the question if anyone wonders: anyone having problems with the imdb script? I don't get any user rating and I get low res covers, but I've seen bug report on the covers but nothing on imdb score?
[02:02] <toorima> ok solved the problem with no user rating, changed a little on imdb.pl so its working now, just the low res posters left to fix, any news anyone?
[02:02] <rhpot1991> toorima: what version of mythbuntu are you running?
[02:08] <toorima> 8.10 upgraded from 8.04
[02:13] <toorima> do you guys all get high res covers in mythvideo?
[02:17] <Gumby> I just installed mythbuntu 8.10 on my frontend/backend slave and when running mythtv-setup it asks me to stop the backend and I select OK, and then a window comes up, disapears, and then I get asked to restart the backend and then to run mythfilldatabase.  the rest of the configuring is completely skipped.  Has anyone seen this before?
[02:18] <Gumby> I've installed mythtv many times before and have never seen this behaviour
[02:21] <rhpot1991> toorima: I thought it was fixed, give me a few minutes and I'll check on it
[02:27] <toorima> rhpot1991: ok, thx for the help
[02:29] <hads> Gumby: Ubuntu has a wrapper script for mythtv-setup and it sounds like the real binary is not running for you. Try running mythtv-setup.real directly and see what the output is.
[02:29] <Gumby> hads: I'll give that a shot thanks
[02:35] <Gumby> "QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image"  this is the only error I get.
[02:36] <Gumby> same issue when running mythtv-setup.real
[02:36] <Gumby> hrm...  also Couldn't find theme metallurgy-osd
[02:37] <Gumby> yet, the theme is installed
[02:39] <Gumby> I actually uninstalled the theme and now setup is using "default" quite odd
[02:40] <Gumby> or rather "G.A.N.T"
[02:47] <rhpot1991> seems to work fine here toorima
[02:48] <rhpot1991> what version of imdb.pl do you have?
[02:49] <rhpot1991> and what version of mythvideo: dpkg -l mythvideo |grep ^ii
[02:50] <rhpot1991> gotta walk my dogs I'll be back in a bit
[03:01] <toorima> rhpot1991: 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1
[03:04] <foxbuntu> toorima, do this: apt-cache policy mythvideo
[03:10] <rhpot1991> that is the latest
[03:10] <rhpot1991> do locate imdb.pl make sure it only returns this:
[03:10] <rhpot1991> /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl
[03:27] <toorima> rhpot1991: its the only one in there
[03:28] <toorima> says version 1.3 in imdb.pl tho
[03:33] <toorima> mythvideo:
[03:33] <toorima>   Installed: 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1
[03:33] <toorima>   Candidate: 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1
[03:33] <toorima>   Version table:
[03:33] <toorima>  *** 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1 0
[03:33] <toorima>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Packages
[03:33] <toorima>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:33] <toorima> foxbuntu: didn't see your answer first, thx for looking at it for me
[03:34] <foxbuntu> toorima, do a sudo apt-get update and then run that again
[03:35] <toorima> ok
[03:35] <toorima> mythvideo:
[03:35] <toorima>   Installed: 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1
[03:35] <toorima>   Candidate: 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1
[03:35] <toorima>   Version table:
[03:35] <toorima>  *** 0.21.0+fixes18722-0ubuntu1 0
[03:35] <toorima>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/multiverse Packages
[03:35] <toorima>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:39] <foxbuntu> toorima, are you using a static ip?
[03:39] <toorima> yeah
[03:40] <foxbuntu> do this: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:40] <toorima> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[03:41] <toorima> that is my router
[03:46] <daande> I have a question about system requirements...could I get away with using this http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35333&promoid=1034 if I had a dedicated card for transcoding?
[03:47] <rhpot1991> toorima: are you seeing the poster res problem on new movies?
[03:47] <rhpot1991> new as in ones that weren't in mythvideo before
[03:50] <toorima> yeah its only movies that i've added in the last few weeks that are low res
[03:58] <rhpot1991> toorima: force this IMDB number on one of them and see if the poster is high or low res: 0433383
[04:06] <toorima> hmm that one is high res
[04:06] <toorima> sorry it took a while, some morron rang the door trying to sell something
[04:08] <daande> I have a question about system requirements...could I get away with using this http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35333&promoid=1034 if I had a dedicated card for transcoding?
[04:09] <rhpot1991> toorima: perhaps the videos you are doing are the problem then
[04:09] <rhpot1991> I think it uses a 2nd source if the script doesn't find them from the first
[04:10] <foxbuntu> daande, with a good lpia build you might be able to just skate by
[04:10] <rhpot1991> or an optimized kernel
[04:10] <rhpot1991> I can playback HD on my EEE as long as the network isn't gimping it
[04:10] <rhpot1991> and thats a single core atom
[04:11] <toorima> rhpot1991: yeah but 2 that are low res are eagle eye and in bruges, those should have high res right?
[04:11] <foxbuntu> daande, if your going to use that as a backend and frontend its going to be very tight
[04:11] <rhpot1991> looks like thats a pci slot, get me one of those with a pcie and I'm sold
[04:11] <rhpot1991> ya I wouldn't do backend on it
[04:11] <hads> Haven't seen any of those with a PCIe yet unfortunately.
[04:12] <foxbuntu> nope
[04:12] <rhpot1991> toorima: clear the data, delete the files associated with it and try again to make sure its not picking up an old one
[04:12] <foxbuntu> I have been watching for them too
[04:12] <rhpot1991> hads: I saw a single core atom but it wasn't mini itx either
[04:12] <toorima> rhpot1991: gonna do that now
[04:13] <rhpot1991> I'm pretty sure we are all watching for them with the same idea in mind :)
[04:13] <foxbuntu> I am waiting for the price to drop on the core i7 to grab one for testing
[04:14] <hads> Too pricey with a new board and RAM
[04:14] <foxbuntu> right now yes
[04:14] <foxbuntu> would be 1k for the combo
[04:14] <foxbuntu> or near
[04:14] <hads> Which equates to nearly $2k here :)
[04:15] <foxbuntu> lol
[04:15] <foxbuntu> yes, everything is more expensive on an island :)
[04:15] <hads> USD = 0.5263
[04:16] <foxbuntu> UK?
[04:16] <hads> NZ
[04:16] <foxbuntu> thats what I thought
[04:16] <foxbuntu> NZD > USD ?
[04:16] <foxbuntu> i dint realize that
[04:17] <hads> Yeah, nearly double. US$1 == NZ$1.9something
[04:18] <foxbuntu> ah
[04:18] <foxbuntu> well remind me not to come to NZ then ;)
[04:19] <hads> No that works well for you, when you get here you'd have double the money :)
[04:19] <foxbuntu> oh im sorry, I was reading that backwards
[04:19] <hads> And NZ is cooler ;)
[04:20] <foxbuntu> well Idk about that...I mean you are there :P
[04:20] <toorima> hmm removed the covers, new were downloaded and still low res, anyone here has in bruges or eagle eye in high res?
[04:20] <BandC> i get blank screen right before login screen with myth 8.10. ati x1250 video card. samsug syncmaster lcd. anyone knows anything about that?
[04:21] <hads> hehe. It's actually pretty warm today at 28 degrees (83 for you weirdos) :)
[04:21] <toorima> hads: hawaii?
[04:21] <foxbuntu> hads, well its end of the summer for you there tough isnt it?
[04:21] <foxbuntu> toorima, New Zealand
[04:21] <hads> It's early summer
[04:21] <toorima> ah
[04:21] <foxbuntu> hads, oh right
[04:21] <foxbuntu> duh
[04:22] <foxbuntu> early winter here
[04:22] <hads> :)
[04:22] <toorima> winter here, 78 degrees today
[04:22] <foxbuntu> it was warm here today too, 43F
[04:22] <toorima> brr cold hehe
[04:23] <foxbuntu> no thats good here, its been in the 20's to low 30's for a bit now
[04:23] <hads> That's chilly
[04:23] <foxbuntu> meh
[04:23] <foxbuntu> in Feb it will be much colder
[04:23] <foxbuntu> more like 10F on a good day
[04:23] <toorima> where i grew up we could have -30
[04:24] <toorima> that sucked
[04:24] <foxbuntu> toorima, hmm... in the US? or Canada?
[04:24] <toorima> foxbuntu: nah grew up in sweden
[04:24] <foxbuntu> ah
[04:24] <toorima> southern california now
[04:24] <foxbuntu> wow
[04:24] <foxbuntu> what a move
[04:25] <toorima> bit of a difference hehe
[04:25] <toorima> kinda weird not having seasons....
[04:25] <foxbuntu> I have been job hunting in so cal
[04:25] <blahrus_> I am testing 9.04 currently, having some issues getting it to do 720p, whenI click on 1360x768@60 the screen says it goes to 1280x768
[04:25] <toorima> but i dont miss the rain
[04:25] <toorima> foxbuntu: what kinda jobs?
[04:26] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, which card/driver?
[04:26] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: on board, intel 4500x
[04:26] <blahrus_> currently using vga port
[04:26] <foxbuntu> toorima, Senior Network Engineer/Network Admin
[04:26] <blahrus_> would like to use the HDMI
[04:26] <blahrus_> looks a lot beter
[04:26] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, ah, do you mean X4500HD?
[04:27] <foxbuntu> G45 chipset?
[04:27] <toorima> foxbuntu: tried craigslist? im a system admin, have seen some good network engineer jobs
[04:27] <blahrus_> yea: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128354
[04:27] <foxbuntu> toorima, I havent yet
[04:27] <blahrus_> no sorry g43
[04:27] <hads> Our climate is normally -3c to 35c (27f to 95f)
[04:27] <toorima> craigslist is good here in cali
[04:28] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, I have an Asus with the same chipset/card
[04:28] <foxbuntu> oh
[04:28] <foxbuntu> sorry
[04:28] <toorima> tons of adds every day, only downside is you have to search per county
[04:28] <blahrus_> well you might be a life saver :)
[04:28] <foxbuntu> I have the G45
[04:28] <toorima> where would u like to live?
[04:28] <foxbuntu> but similar
[04:28] <toorima> im in san diego
[04:28] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: any suggestions?
[04:29] <foxbuntu> toorima, maybe San Fran, San Jose that general area
[04:29] <blahrus_> i opened up the xorg, and it's full of nothing . . .
[04:29] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, yeah, thats the way its handled now
[04:29] <foxbuntu> many of the defaults are inserted from elsewhere on boot
[04:29] <blahrus_> oh
[04:30] <foxbuntu> you can still edit it and make changes that way
[04:30] <blahrus_> which do you suggest?
[04:30] <foxbuntu> depends on the issues
[04:31] <blahrus_> well let me get these updates done
[04:31] <blahrus_> reboot with the HDMI plugged in
[04:31] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, last I tried the intel driver in 9.04 it had some big issues with the latest cards/chipsets
[04:31] <toorima> foxbuntu: there should be plenty of jobs, try craigslist http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sad/
[04:31] <blahrus_> maybe I should just give up for the night :(
[04:32] <foxbuntu> toorima, cool, I will have a look, I already looked through Dice.com which has many many choices for those areas too
[04:33] <toorima> ok bbl, some ppl came over
[04:33] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, the intel patch for the G4x chipset just came out, I mean like 7 days ago maybe
[04:33] <blahrus_> yea, I knew it would be pushing it getting the board
[04:33] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, yup
[04:33] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, but thats why I bought it too
[04:34] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: yea :)
[04:34] <blahrus_> 2.2.4.1-1 is the intel drivers it just downloaded.
[04:34] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, I own www.foxmediasystems.com and I am in the dev stages of creating and all in one ready to use system
[04:34] <blahrus_> niiice
[04:35] <foxbuntu> so I have my choice boards for nvidia/ati/intel
[04:35] <hads> Spammer ;)
[04:35] <foxbuntu> hads, I know i know
[04:35] <foxbuntu> I stick my url in allot
[04:35] <foxbuntu> ;)
[04:35] <foxbuntu> maybe once every few weeks
[04:35] <daande> can mythtv play divx/xvid movies?
[04:35] <hads> heh
[04:36] <foxbuntu> daande, yes
[04:36] <hads> daande: Sure, mythvideo is the plugin you want
[04:36] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129030
[04:36] <foxbuntu> rut oh
[04:36] <blahrus_> is the case I ahve, will that lcd howto you have work for it ;)?
[04:36] <daande> im looking into building my gf a media center for christmas heh
[04:36] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, ah you found that already huh?
[04:36] <foxbuntu> I just published that recently
[04:36] <blahrus_> :)
[04:37] <foxbuntu> glad my wiki is showing up in google searches
[04:37] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, I have the black and silver versions
[04:37] <blahrus_> so I should prolly not be using the devel version?
[04:37] <foxbuntu> only complaint is that the IR sensor is either misplaced or just plain weak
[04:37] <daande> what type of hardware do you guys suggest the system would need to play dixv/xvid/mp3s/dvds/record tv
[04:38] <hads> How long is a piece of string? :)
[04:38] <foxbuntu> daande, if your going to do HDTV dual core 2.5Ghz or better and a decent vid card
[04:38] <daande> what about a tuner card with a built in encoder?
[04:39] <foxbuntu> daande, or you could wait and get a fresh off the line system from this great vendor ;) www.foxmediasystems.com
[04:39] <foxbuntu> lol
[04:39] <foxbuntu> hads, that one was for you
[04:39] <hads> hah, every few weeks eh :)
[04:39] <foxbuntu> lol
[04:39] <daande> how much are u charging
[04:39] <foxbuntu> daande, HVR-1600 is a pretty good card
[04:40] <rhpot1991> antec silver is "easier" to setup, I'd say get whichever one is cheaper if you don't really care
[04:40] <rhpot1991> I happen to have a silver
[04:40] <foxbuntu> daande, not sure on final price yet, but prob between 850-1000
[04:40] <daande> to much for me im looking to build one for like $500
[04:40] <pgruett> Hi all, I feel that this might be an extraordinarily stupid question but am I to ask my stupid mythbuntu question in here?
[04:40] <daande> its for my gfs christmas gift
[04:41] <foxbuntu> daande, ah...mine are going to be more top end hardware kind of thing
[04:41] <rhpot1991> pgruett: ask away
[04:41] <rhpot1991> daande: you should be able to build a nice box for that price if you go amdx2
[04:41] <foxbuntu> indeed
[04:41] <rhpot1991> heck might even be able to squeeze a phenom for that price anymore
[04:42] <foxbuntu> 4850e is a good choice
[04:42] <rhpot1991> I haven't been watching the price of c2d's lately so I can't speak for them
[04:42] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, tri core maybe
[04:42] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, E8400 ~130$ I thinks
[04:42] <rhpot1991> they had a phenom for $90 over the last weekend, newegg that is
[04:42] <daande> I want it to be small
[04:42] <daande> and nice looking
[04:43] <daande> thats my delema
[04:43] <foxbuntu> daande, go with the antec case
[04:43] <rhpot1991> daande: fuzion is pretty nice
[04:43] <pgruett> I've got a kworld dvd maker PCI I'm trying to encourage to speak to my mythbuntu box but, so far, I'm getting a garbled image.  I haven't been able to find any specific support or drivers.
[04:43] <rhpot1991> if you want to go smaller than that then you would need to be getting into separate backend and frontends
[04:43] <foxbuntu> indeed
[04:43] <daande> thats why i was hoping an atom dual core
[04:44] <daande> would do the trick
[04:44] <daande> with a dedicated encoder card
[04:44] <foxbuntu> pgruett, well im not sure, but if you havent done so try installing the w32codecs and libdvdcss2
[04:44] <hads> daande: I'd say you'd be pushing it
[04:44] <daande> i thought so
[04:44] <rhpot1991> ya I dunno that it would cut it
[04:44] <rhpot1991> atom wasn't meant to be a beast
[04:44] <pgruett> I did do that, though earlier when I was trying to play DVDs.
[04:44] <daande> but I thought a dedicated encoder card
[04:45] <rhpot1991> daande: your backend normally does other cpu intensive thigns like commflagging, transcoding, etc
[04:45] <daande> took all the strain off the cpu
[04:45] <foxbuntu> daande, that doesnt oflload all the proc power needed for MySQL, Commflagging, Transcoding, ect ect
[04:45] <rhpot1991> not to mention HD playback is currently very very cpu intensive
[04:45] <daande> I am new to this so I dont even know what commflagging and stuff is
[04:45] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: quit copying my answer :)
[04:45] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: do you suggest I download the 8.10 version :)?
[04:46] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, yes, my X4500HD works well in 8.10
[04:46] <daande> what if HDTV wasnt an issue?
[04:46] <foxbuntu> daande, even still
[04:46] <hads> Still be slow
[04:47] <rhpot1991> daande: was there a clock speed mentioned anywhere for it?
[04:47] <foxbuntu> much better off to get microATX + AMDx2 4850e or better
[04:47] <hads> Media centres do like power.
[04:47] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, I think the clock on those is 1.6
[04:47] <rhpot1991> also you want a large area for hard drives for your backend
[04:47] <hads> Yeah
[04:48] <daande> no thats what pissed me off
[04:48] <daande> that the ad has no CPU specs
[04:48] <rhpot1991> I hope its not misleading and claiming hyperthreading as dual core
[04:48] <hads> My diskless FE is a mATX Intel
[04:48] <rhpot1991> my MBE is a mATX
[04:48] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, no there really is a dual core atom floating around
[04:49] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: I knew they were coming out, this is the first I've seen them sold
[04:49] <hads> Only fan is the PSU which makes it barely audible
[04:49] <daande> no
[04:49] <daande> its dual core
[04:49] <rhpot1991> I'd venture that a dual core atom could cut SD, I have no proof to back it
[04:49] <daande> with hyperthreading
[04:49] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, I just remember it in the partner spam I get from Intel all the time
[04:49] <daande> so 4 virtual cores
[04:49] <rhpot1991> especially if you can use something like XvMC
[04:49] <Chaorain> My sound card is not working will this help? http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04/Issues/No_Sound_After_Distribution_Or_Kernel_Upgrade
[04:49] <daande> i htink its 1.6Ghz
[04:49] <hads> HT isn't a core
[04:49] <rhpot1991> ya HT is faking a core
[04:50] <Chaorain> I have a Dell XPS 410
[04:50] <hads> Not very well either
[04:50] <daande> hense the word virtual
[04:50] <daande> http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320528.pdf
[04:50] <hads> *shrug*
[04:50] <rhpot1991> problem is you only have pci in that
[04:50] <foxbuntu> Chaorain, I would go ask a question like that in #ubuntu
[04:50] <rhpot1991> so expanding the video will hold you up
[04:50] <daande> HVR-1600
[04:50] <daande> ?
[04:50] <Chaorain> ok should be the same problem?
[04:51] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: your suggestion is: http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1178-WinTV-HVR-1600-Internal-Recorder/dp/B000MGGTY8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1228365828&sr=1-8
[04:51] <blahrus_> ?
[04:51] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, yes
[04:51] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: will have to check that out, currently have a cheap card in there
[04:51] <blahrus_> might wanna update it
[04:51] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: you still seeing random garbage in HDHR recordings sometimes?
[04:51] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, I have 3 of those currently
[04:52] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, nope
[04:52] <daande> microATX with a AMDx2
[04:52] <blahrus_> side node, I would suggest Intel Core 2 Duo E8200
[04:52] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, as would I
[04:52] <blahrus_> that's bang for you buck
[04:52] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, just more expensive
[04:52] <blahrus_> 6mb cache, 1333 buss
[04:52] <blahrus_> bus*
[04:52] <rhpot1991> I can't figure out why, but I see random garbage in mine, like satellite in a storm garbage
[04:52] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, it blows away AMD in my testing
[04:53] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, you have a splitter/booster on your cable coming into it?
[04:53] <rhpot1991> and I can't reliably make it happen, so I'm thinking signal
[04:53] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: yea, it's quite insane of a CPU really, well for spending an extra 50 - 75 bucks
[04:53] <rhpot1991> booster
[04:53] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, pull the booster out
[04:53] <daande> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33181&vpn=BX80571E5200&manufacture=Intel
[04:53] <foxbuntu> thats what fixed mine
[04:53] <rhpot1991> and splitters outside
[04:53] <daande> or
[04:53] <daande> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=34028&vpn=ADV6000DOBOX&manufacture=AMD
[04:53] <rhpot1991> well I added the booster to replace splitters
[04:53] <rhpot1991> cause I was having worse problems, random skips on firewire recordings
[04:54] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, I replaced my booster with a splitter and whamo, problem solved on the spot
[04:54] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: looks like I am overscalling on all HDMI
[04:54] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: its a 5 way split too though
[04:54] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, well split before the booster then use the HDHR without
[04:54] <blahrus_> 3 live CDs has done it
[04:55] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, I have like 3 splitters before my HDHR
[04:55] <blahrus_> the bios screen has done it as well
[04:55] <foxbuntu> thus the booster
[04:55] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, yea, its common with HDMI
[04:55] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: I'll have to mess with it, problem is that I don't want to lose my recordings and don't have time otherwise
[04:55] <rhpot1991> couple that with the fact that I can't reproduce it and its a headache
[04:55] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/33-10226
[04:55] <rhpot1991> thats what I have
[04:56] <rhpot1991> I have a 2nd one to try outside as well if I ever get around to waterproofing the connections
[04:56] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, it finally annoyed me enough I ate a recording to test it
[04:56] <foxbuntu> havent had an issue since
[04:56] <rhpot1991> I have a ghosting problem as well, so I might have cable issues
[04:56] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: is there xorg settings to scale it down?
[04:57] <rhpot1991> I just know comcast is gonna point at that and blame everything on it
[04:57] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, it takes allot of messing around with mode lines and such to get rid of it, its specific stuff to your TV
[04:57] <blahrus_> suck.
[04:57] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, I would check what videos look like on it before going to that trouble
[04:57] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, I use one of my systems with the overscan and dont notice it in TV at all
[04:58] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: so this a crappy TV issue then? all distro's linux and windows will have this issue?
[04:59] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, its different with different video cards/drivers (and versions)/TVs
[04:59] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, its a crap shoot to get it to not have the overscan
[05:00] <foxbuntu> via HDMI/DVI
[05:01] <foxbuntu> sometimes DVI -> HDMI is better than str8 HDMI
[05:01] <foxbuntu> VGA is always better
[05:01] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, you should be able to get the same res and quality of res from VGA with a good cable
[05:02] <foxbuntu> and not have the overscan
[05:02] <foxbuntu> just make sure to get a 15 pin shielded gold tip cable
[05:03] <blahrus_> hurm
[05:03] <blahrus_> might have to go that route
[05:03] <blahrus_> I should have known better to think I would have this done tonight :)
[05:03] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, there is no such thing as *done* in mythtv
[05:03] <foxbuntu> ;)
[05:04] <foxbuntu> not in a bad way
[05:04] <blahrus_> wife wont be happy when she sees the media area apart for the next week or too
[05:04] <blahrus_> two*
[05:04] <foxbuntu> yeah...they never are
[05:04] <foxbuntu> mine forced me to move all my stuff into the basement
[05:04] <rhpot1991> or when they miss their soap opera cause you were up till 4am breaking things the night before
[05:05] <foxbuntu> that too
[05:05] <foxbuntu> thus all my test systems now
[05:06] <blahrus_> really shocked there are all these overscan issues
[05:07] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, the issue is the video cards not grabbing the TV's EDID data properly over the HDMI/DVI ports
[05:07] <foxbuntu> and its because there is no real industry standard for doing so
[05:08] <foxbuntu> except with VGA
[05:08] <blahrus_> weird, I guess I just assumed someone like intel would do it right, and figure a way to read them all
[05:08] <foxbuntu> not so much the video card's fault as it is the TV
[05:10] <blahrus_> is there a known tv copmany that works better than others?
[05:10] <foxbuntu> I have had good luck with Samsung, but thats just me
[05:11] <blahrus_> hurm
[05:11] <foxbuntu> I have three Samsung TV's
[05:11] <blahrus_> I guess it's good to know it will do it on windows as well :)
[05:11] <foxbuntu> 50" DLP, 40" LCD, 32" LCD
[05:12] <blahrus_> yea I have a cheap 32 lcd insignia
[05:12] <blahrus_> wait not 37
[05:13] <foxbuntu> ah
[05:13] <blahrus_> LG but cheaper
[05:14] <foxbuntu> yea
[05:14] <foxbuntu> you might be able to adjust it some on the TV as well
[05:16] <blahrus_> I assume this issues doesn't happen if the tv has DVI inputs?
[05:17] <rhpot1991> for the record too I've seen a lot of 1080p TVs that don't do 1080 resolution over VGA, samsung is one of the few
[05:17] <foxbuntu> it depends, it still does sometimes with DVI
[05:18] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, yes, not many will accept 1920x1080
[05:20] <foxbuntu> have to watch out for that
[05:20] <foxbuntu> anyways...I gtg, catch you later blahrus_
[05:20] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: yup yup, thanks for the help
[05:20] <blahrus_> have a good one
[08:09] <aaron_> hello. I just got a mythbuntu system up and running and was hoping somebody could help me fix a few problems I'm having, the worst of which is the lack of audio over HDMI?
[09:40] <Alacran> I've setup Mythbuntu, and im trying to run the frontend from XBMC.  I keep having problems with SQL, any suggestions?
[13:35] <psicobra> hi all  i have just installed anew sound card with spdof optical out the card is detected and working from what i can tell but how do i make the optical wor
[13:36] <psicobra> k
[13:44] <danhs> Escriba el texto aquí....
[14:15] <henrik_> how is the weeklys comming along for 8.10
[17:18] <bobbob1016> Ubiquity keeps crashing on me when I try to install Mythbuntu Ibex or Hardy, can anyone help?  Ibex itself can install fine, but if I do that, how can I strip it to be just plain mythbuntu, as in take out all the gnome stuff?
[17:19] <superm1> bobbob1016, do you have a log of the crash?
[17:19] <superm1> /var/log/syslog would be quite helpful
[17:20] <superm1> sounds like you found a bug.. it's too late to fix it for intrepid, but you can likely work around it and we'll have it fixed for jaunty
[17:20] <bobbob1016> superm1, I didn't know it logged there.  I did try from terminal though, I'll open that file now.
[17:20] <bobbob1016> It's as the installer gets to 83% or so
[17:21] <superm1> bobbob1016, okay so that's probably the configuring mythtv step
[17:21] <superm1> pastebin the log and i'll look
[17:21] <superm1> !pastebin | bobbob1016
[17:21] <Zinn> bobbob1016: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[17:21] <superm1> you can use the pastebinit tool in mythbuntu live disk to do it
[17:21] <superm1> pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[17:22] <bobbob1016> I would, but the network isn't connecting.
[17:22] <bobbob1016> I'll see about copy/pasting to this machine, and posting it from here
[17:23] <bobbob1016> copy to flash drive*
[17:24] <bobbob1016> This won't post any of the info I put in ubiquity, will it?
[17:29] <superm1> unless you ran in debug mode, no
[17:34] <bobbob1016> superm1, It has my name, but that's it, I did find for my passwords, and nothing.  I'm going to do a find/replace then post it.  You think I can just try to boot anyways now?
[17:37] <bobbob1016> superm1, http://pastebin.ca/1276070
[17:38] <superm1> bobbob1016, lets see.  word of warning, the usernames and passwords could possibly have been the cause
[17:38] <superm1> did you use any non alphanumeric characters?
[17:38] <superm1> i think there is a bug opened about something going on there
[17:38] <bobbob1016> superm1, No, just letters and numbers
[17:38] <superm1> okay lets see.  looking at the diff
[17:38] <bobbob1016> I looked and saw something about not finding a partition table, but not sure.
[17:39] <superm1> bobbob1016, okay so two things stand out
[17:39] <superm1> 1: [ 1741.515052] Buffer I/O error on device sdg1, logical block 1
[17:39] <superm1> a disk of yorus is having errors
[17:39] <bobbob1016> That's my flash drive
[17:39] <superm1> ah okay so you just pulled it out with ejecting
[17:39] <bobbob1016> yeah
[17:40] <superm1> okay so the other thing, are you installing over the same drive again?
[17:40] <superm1> it looks like it didn't format the drive the first time
[17:40] <superm1> which caused a problem
[17:41] <superm1> ln: creating symbolic link `/target/home/user/.mythtv/mysql.txt' File exists
[17:41] <superm1> so if you remove /target/home/user/.mythtv  and try again it should be fine
[17:41] <superm1> please file a bug against ubiquity (http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity) and attach this log there
[17:42] <superm1> assign it to me (Mario Limonciello: superm1) and i'll take care of it for jaunty
[17:42] <bobbob1016> superm1, Ok, one sec, on the phone, sorry
[17:58] <bobbob1016> superm1, Sorry about that, going to remove .mythtv from the target home now.  Quick question though, should I use 64bit or 32bit with an AMD X3 (it is 64bit), I'm planning on installing coreavc in mplayer, so not sure which it'd work better with.
[17:59] <superm1> bobbob1016, you are better off with 32 bit if you are messing with coreavc
[17:59] <superm1> bobbob1016, if it's that powerful of a machine though - an X3, you probably can get away without coreavc
[17:59] <bobbob1016> superm1, That is what I thought.  I want coreavc since it chugs with 1080p x264
[18:00] <superm1> bobbob1016, an alternative is the new NVIDIA VDPAU stuff
[18:00] <bobbob1016> and the people in #mplayer said it won't work too well, but with coreavc it'd work fine, since coreavc does multithread and mplayer doesn't yet
[18:00] <superm1> not sure what GPU you have in there though
[18:00] <bobbob1016> 8200gs
[18:00] <bobbob1016> nvidia
[18:04] <bobbob1016> superm1, I tried it on an pentium-dual-core 1.6ghz with no luck, I'll try it with this though.  One thing I still have to play with is the 8200 has builtin hdmi out, and since I have it to my receiver not my TV, it can't seem to get the right resolution, and can't pipe sound out.  But I'll play with that.
[18:05] <superm1> bobbob1016, ah too bad. the 8200gs isn't supported with vdpau: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/357332
[18:06] <bobbob1016> superm1, I have an 8400 too, but no hdmi out, so not sure which to use.
[18:07] <bobbob1016> I know they have the new hybrid-sli which does mobo gpu + pcie gpu, but not sure where it'll output
[18:07] <superm1> not sure either
[18:10] <bobbob1016> I'll do the coreavc trial first though.  Might be an idea to include some coreavc installer thing, as in you give it your serial and the exe you download from coreavc, and the installer does it automatically.  Might be able to get some referral $ from coreavc, not sure if it violates any rules though, just a thought anyways
[18:11] <laga> we kinda had such a setup, but h264 support in ffmpeg improved a lot and we decided we didn't want to support a proprietary solution
[18:12] <bobbob1016> laga, Oh, ok.  Any way I could find said setup again, or better to go manually?
[18:12] <laga> better go manually, it's not too hard
[18:13] <bobbob1016> laga, Ok, just thought I'd ask.
[18:13] <bobbob1016> superm1, I'm at 90%+ now, that seems to have done it.
[18:18] <bobbob1016> superm1, Seems like someone else found this a while ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/173378
[18:18] <superm1> bobbob1016, odd that it was fixed back then but came back
[18:18] <superm1> file a second bug, but mention that other one in the bug
[18:20] <bobbob1016> Now I'm getting grub error 22, means it can't find the partition, right?
[18:21] <superm1> that's usually a side effect of odd booting scenarios where you need to install grub somewhere special (see last advanced button in installer)
[18:22] <bobbob1016> I rebooted again, and it found it....  Not sure, but ok...  I'll do the bug soon
[18:25] <bobbob1016> Ok, I posted and assigned it to you.
[22:13] <whodat> how do i revert back to the default ffmpeg mythbuntu .21 uses? the one i installed isnt working quite right.
[22:35] <jphillip> whodat well where did you install the other from?
[23:19] <silverdulcet> I'm having some issues with livetv, intermittently when I change channels, the channel will be distorted, but the sound will work fine. If I exit out of viewing livetv and start again it fixes it. If I don't it seems to kill the xserver, since gdm restarts and deposits me at the login window. Hardware is AMD64 3200+ and an HVR-1600. I'm only using the DVB for OTA tuning.
[23:19] <silverdulcet> recording programs works without issue.
[23:20] <silverdulcet> any ideas on what to check?
[23:37] <jaxes> does anyone here us a keyspan remote?