| TomJaeger | When are we going to see an xserver 1.6.0 beta in jaunty, and is there a way I can help speed this up? | 00:59 |
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| bryce_ | tjaalton: I've written a page on how to do git-bisect for X in ubuntu. Would you mind reviewing it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bisecting | 03:50 |
| bryce_ | (my git-fu is not strong; there might be better ways to explain the process) | 03:50 |
| superm1 | bryce_, you still here? | 04:24 |
| bryce_ | yep, in and out | 04:24 |
| superm1 | just a quick q about BART | 04:24 |
| superm1 | http://bart.gov/schedules/bylineresults.aspx?route=11&date=12%2F4%2F2008 . those times listed, so say the last one for bay fair is 1:02, does that mean that one runs all the way to milbrae still, you board at bay fair at 1:02? | 04:25 |
| superm1 | just wanted to make sure i've planned ahead to understand when to be back to the BART stop at for uds | 04:25 |
| superm1 | (er for the days before uds) | 04:25 |
| superm1 | bryce_, that howto on git biset looks useful. i've not known how to use git bisect myself, but that looks to explain it well | 04:27 |
| bryce_ | yeah I don't know much about the end times for the bart. I tended to use it only for getting to/from work and didn't push the late times | 04:34 |
| bryce_ | superm1: yeah, I know upstream often asks to do git bisecting, but ubuntu users find it a bit technically perplexing, so having it documented like we do for backtracing could only help | 04:35 |
| bryce_ | this is particularly aimed at our OEM team, since they're very often wishing to backport fixes for earlier releases (esp. hardy) | 04:36 |
| superm1 | ah right | 04:48 |
| tjaalton | bryce: looks good, I've bisected mesa once | 08:25 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: You seem to have a duplicate account on LP (~tepsipakki; some packages are showing up with that as the uploader) | 09:08 |
| bryce | http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/Photos/Woodworking/Desk/ <-- some photos of recent work on my desk :-) | 09:15 |
| wgrant | bryce: Oh, it's done? | 09:16 |
| bryce | wgrant: yep! | 09:18 |
| bryce | I'm sitting at it right now :-) | 09:19 |
| wgrant | bryce: Not bad. It's nice and shiny. | 09:19 |
| bryce | yep, went kind of mad with the varnishing ;-) | 09:22 |
| bryce | more importantly, it's extremely solid. I'm happy with it. Nice to be back on a normal desktop with a couple big dual heads :-) | 09:23 |
| bryce | been stuck on only a laptop for the last month | 09:23 |
| wgrant | It also looks remarkably straight for a piece of home-built furniture. | 09:24 |
| bryce | yeah, the angle the wall makes is not exactly 90 degrees, so getting it all to fit in, be level, and be straight, was quite challenging | 09:26 |
| wgrant | Oh, ouch. | 09:26 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: yes, I changed that a year ago, now I've removed tepsipakki@ email and waiting for tjaalton@u.c | 09:35 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: what or who is/was tepsipakki? Or what does it mean? | 09:37 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: my nickname in certain circles :) | 09:38 |
| tjaalton | tepsi = TPS (the hockey team I cheer), pakki=defenseman | 09:39 |
| bryce | nite | 09:39 |
| tjaalton | night bryce, the desk looks nice :) | 09:39 |
| wgrant | Night bryce | 09:39 |
| tseliot | very nice :-) | 09:40 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: But you should probably merge the account... | 09:40 |
| tseliot | night bryce | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: how? | 09:40 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: https://launchpad.net/~tepsipakki, there's a link there. | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | oh | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | well, msg'd jpds about it | 09:43 |
| tjaalton | since tepsipakki@ doesn't seem to work anymore | 09:43 |
| tjaalton | so I can't merge the accounts :) | 09:44 |
| tjaalton | oh, it does work | 09:47 |
| tjaalton | done now | 09:48 |
| tjaalton | so it's not wise to remove the address from my list of addresses | 09:48 |
| tjaalton | bryce: ping? should I blueprint'ify xserver-1.6 etc? can't figure out what talk to host otherwise (unless you have suggestions) :) | 22:26 |
| bryce | tjaalton: yep that sounds good | 22:26 |
| tjaalton | bryce: ok, good. maybe xorg-jaunty is better | 22:27 |
| bryce | are there any other major changes we intend for X this go around? | 22:27 |
| bryce | so far mostly the blueprints are for toolsmithing type stuff | 22:27 |
| bryce | oh also I had a question for you, non-X related | 22:27 |
| bryce | I'm merging nfs-utils and there is a patch 100-gssd-use-kernel-supported-enctypes.diff | 22:28 |
| bryce | I've refreshed it to apply to the new release, but I'm wondering if it's still necessary? | 22:28 |
| bryce | tjaalton: I emailed kevin coffman and here is his reply: | 22:28 |
| bryce | Hi Bryce! | 22:29 |
| bryce | This patch isn't needed. There is still no code in the kernel to | 22:29 |
| bryce | return the enctype information and, as it turns out, the way we're | 22:29 |
| bryce | going to get this information from the kernel has changed. (Which is | 22:29 |
| bryce | why this has never gone upstream.) | 22:29 |
| bryce | Bruce and Olga are working on a new upcall interface for gssd which | 22:29 |
| bryce | will include the ability to send up the supported encryption types. | 22:29 |
| bryce | The code to add new encryption support in the kernel (besides des) is | 22:29 |
| bryce | waiting on that new upcall interface to be completed... | 22:29 |
| bryce | HTH, | 22:29 |
| bryce | K.C. | 22:29 |
| bryce | sounds like we should drop the patch, but I wanted to doublecheck with you first | 22:29 |
| tjaalton | dunno really, I didn't add it originally | 22:30 |
| tjaalton | ..but the original changelog entry is not preserved thanks to me.. maybe launchpad helps | 22:31 |
| bryce | okie. Guess if anyone needs it, they can bring it back in | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | I'll notice when we start testing/using nfsv4+krb5 again :) | 22:32 |
| tjaalton | phoronix claims that nvidia blob will support randr-1.2 soon | 22:34 |
| bryce | about time ;-) | 22:34 |
| bryce | did they indicate if it'd be full support? | 22:34 |
| bryce | iirc -fglrx said they added randr 1.2 support but left out a few functions | 22:35 |
| tjaalton | it didn't say | 22:36 |
| bryce | oh speaking of fglrx, I told amd we'd have a beta version of xserver 1.6 in alpha2 (which is immediately after uds). | 22:36 |
| tjaalton | I bet they are cheering | 22:36 |
| bryce | heh | 22:36 |
| bryce | well, they're going to wait on updating fglrx until that's in | 22:37 |
| tjaalton | probably tseliot is too :) | 22:37 |
| bryce | tseliot: oh btw there was a question on whether you'd be providing the newer -nvidia packages in envy for Hardy? | 22:38 |
| tjaalton | I got mesa master to build just fine, so we just need to update randrproto and dri2proto before it and xserver 1.6beta | 22:40 |
| tseliot | bryce: the problem is that I don't know how to provide it. 170 and 180 don't support geforce 5xxx series | 22:40 |
| tseliot | bryce: providing an upload which drops the support for certain devices can be a bit risky | 22:41 |
| tseliot | I need a plan | 22:41 |
| bryce | yeah | 22:41 |
| bryce | maybe something we all can chat about next week | 22:41 |
| tseliot | yes, right | 22:42 |
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