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lsimmonds2008Hello, i need some help00:27
SpiegelI am getting an error on shutting down, any help would be appreciated00:29
Spiegel[numbers] CIFS VFS: server not responding00:29
Spiegel[numbers] CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 50 mid 92200:29
lsimmonds2008just hold the button for 6 seconds00:37
lsimmonds2008hows that? ):00:37
lsimmonds2008(:  *00:37
s1amsonanybody had luck with xmms::info pipe?01:35
s1amsonerm01:35
s1amsoni mean xmms::remote01:35
cody-somervillenot i01:38
s1amsoncody-somerville, ever ran into a   Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible01:40
s1amsoni know make works01:40
itai_michaelsoni have an application that minimize itself into the tray. in gnome in i can see it , but how do i see it in xfce?01:50
s1amsonnot many people are here. try #xfce01:52
itai_michaelsoni will...01:53
s1amsondamn, i tried gqmpeg with mpg321 but i have the same prollem i had with bmp years ago (never tried bmp since) it wont recourse directories02:01
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R3cursiveIf I install a new, special kernel that is supposed to be for Ubuntu, will it work with Xubuntu?03:25
R3cursivesendpass Recursive mathnerd@mchsi.com03:29
R3cursiveshit03:29
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OlorynIs there anything tricky about cross-grading a Ubuntu 8.10 machine to Xubuntu 8.10?  Does it require more than 'apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'?  What's the best way to get rid of Ubuntu-specific packages afterwards?05:18
Odd-rationale!purexfce | Oloryn05:19
ubottuOloryn: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »05:19
OlorynAh, lovely.   TYVM05:20
Odd-rationalenp05:21
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OlorynI've got an old Armada 7800 laptop whose CD-ROM drive doesn't like the CD-Rs my other systems create.  Simplest thing to do seems to be to install an Ubuntu ShipIt CD, and then crossgrade to Xubuntu05:22
Odd-rationaleOloryn: well, did you try verifying the iso?05:23
Olorynyes, burned 3 different ones.  I've seen this before on this laptop.  It's just the CD-ROM drive itself I think.05:26
OlorynBut 8.10 finally deals sanely with the display on it (7.04 and 7.10 didn't)05:28
Kredls08:54
Kredwrong window.. wrong computer08:54
ooglebuttehehe08:54
KredHaving three keyboards, three screens with multiple xterms..08:55
ooglebuttethat would give me a complex08:55
steph33560hello10:37
steph33560How setup firefox to not use opendns ?10:39
steph33560keyword.url in about:config seems ok, boolean switch to true but typing someting in address bar still goes to opendns :(10:39
ooglebutteedit/pref will have some options10:39
steph33560ooglebutte, did not find things in edit/prefs ....10:42
ooglebutteedit/pref/general/connection settings   was what I was thinking of...10:43
ooglebuttesteph33560: ^10:43
steph33560ooglebutte, yep seen, gonna check this10:44
steph33560ooglebutte, can't find this o_O10:47
ooglebuttesteph33560: errr I'm still using ff2...10:49
steph33560ooglebutte, what is for you the number of the top item you click on (1 to 7)10:49
steph33560ooglebutte, ha ok10:49
ooglebuttedapper ftw :)10:50
R1cocheti wanted to try out xmms 2 but when reading the package info in synaptic i dont see one that is gui, only command based but ive seen tons of skins for it10:55
ooglebutte!xmms210:56
ubottuxmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details.  Consider using audacious, bmpx, or xmms2 instead.10:56
ooglebutteI use mpg123 here10:57
R1cochet!xmms210:57
ubottuxmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details.  Consider using audacious, bmpx, or xmms2 instead.10:57
ooglebutteisn't beep something the recommended replacement for xmms?10:57
R1cocheti dont know i just wanted a nice player other than audacious10:58
ooglebutteamorok gets plenty of recommendations - might be heavy on the dependencies tho11:00
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crazygirhiya! when trying to boot the 8.10 livecd, I'm getting these squashfs errors: [222.638986] BUffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block #######  as well as sb_dread failed, unable to read fragment cache, this all just keeps coming. the first number in the brackets increments too.13:15
crazygirhas anyone else run into this?13:15
crazygirI've tested two separate computers, two separate burned cds, and two separate iso downloads13:15
* crazygir crosses fingers13:16
ldpcrazygir: It basically means the livecd won't work13:18
ldpBecause it has detected bad sectors on your CD drive13:18
ldpI have never been able to counter this issue, myself13:18
ldpMy alternative is to install it from the alternat install cd13:19
crazygirthis is the main iso off the official download page13:19
ldpcrazygir: Yes, I know13:19
crazygirI've tried an older cdrw and a brand new, not-scratched, blank cdr13:19
crazygirldp: so what is the suggested course-of-action?13:20
crazygir:P13:20
ldpcrazygir: Get the alternate install CD :D13:20
crazygiris this common?13:20
crazygiris the problem in creating the livecd? or in burning? or in media?13:20
ldpIt's usually the iso13:21
ldpMaybe downloading it again off a different location may help (via torrent, perhaps?)13:21
viddcrazygir, how old is the system trying to run the cd?13:23
viddand does it even get to the point of the menu?13:23
crazygirvidd: I've used two systems, an older p4 laptop and a newer amd64 desktop13:23
crazygirvidd: and yes, I get through to the menu13:24
crazygirif I select either test or install, I run into the errors13:24
viddcrazygir, the amd64 will not load the i386 image.....13:24
crazygirwhat?13:24
crazygirwhy? that's insane13:25
viddwhy is that insane?13:25
crazygirbecause the amd64 processes 32bit code fine13:25
viddwhy would you expect a amd64 arch to be able to run an image configured for the i386 architecture?13:25
gabkdllyI have also encountered such IO errors13:26
crazygirare we really talking about the same thing?13:26
crazygirvidd: are you saying that an i386 livecd will not run on an amd64 based system?13:26
crazygirgabkdlly: that's lame13:27
crazygir:P13:27
viddcrazygir, let me adjust my statement to *MAY*13:27
crazygirwhat?13:27
crazygirhave you used *any* other os?13:27
* vidd has no amd64 processor to test on because of such incompatabilities....13:27
crazygir32bit code runs *fine* on an amd64 based system13:27
crazygirvidd: where are you getting this information?13:28
viddfrom the numerous reports of i386-based apps (such as java and flash) not working properly13:28
viddnow i MAY be mistaken...there may have been adjustments made to accomodate these incompatabilities13:29
crazygirvidd: that's trying to get *those* 32bit binaries (because we don't have the code to compile) to run on an amd64 based *OS*13:29
crazygirnow *stop* confusing people with things you don't fully understand13:29
crazygir:P13:29
crazygirvidd: the *system* is different from the *OS*13:30
viddhave you TRIED the amd64 bit image?13:30
crazygirno, I have no need to13:30
viddif your going to attempt to run it on amd64 hardware, you might want to consider it13:31
crazygirvidd: you are horrendously misinformed here, unless xubuntu is incapable of something *every* other os is13:31
crazygirvidd: please STOP giving out bad information13:31
crazygiryou are worse than a windows user13:31
crazygirif you don't know, that's ok13:31
viddthen tell me....why does PPC not load the i386 image?13:31
viddor SPARC?13:32
crazygirbecause a powerpc chip *cannot* execute i386 code13:32
crazygirAMD64's *CAN*13:32
viddah! thats because the architecture of the KERNEL needs to be different!13:32
crazygirit was part of migrating the consumers13:32
crazygiroh vidd quit it13:32
viddhumor me....get the amd64 image13:32
crazygirthanks to those who corroborated the squash fs errors, I'll try a different iso13:33
crazygirvidd: no, because you are *not* correct here, and I have no need to run the amd64 image. if this is in fact what xubuntu would need, I'll find another linux distribution13:34
crazygirplease, please, stop mis-informing people vidd13:34
* crazygir wanders off for better things13:34
Myrtticrazygir: could it be that your cd-rom drive lense is dirty or something? have you tried the cd's on other machines?14:01
Myrtticrazygir: also did you check the cd integrity with the inbuilt integrity check?14:05
vidd\0. maxamillion14:10
crazygirMyrtti: I have tried two separate machines, so yes, I have tried different drives14:12
crazygirI'm about to download a different iso image to test out14:12
viddcrazygir, i was mistaken....the amd64 wont work on the i386....but the i386 should work on the amd6414:13
Myrttiremember to check the md5sum before and after burning14:13
crazygirvidd: of course.14:13
crazygirI understand mixing this all up, but be careful with the information you are giving people14:14
viddi appologize for the misunderstanding14:14
crazygirno worries14:14
crazygirI'm less concerned with me, and more with the newb you might be informing14:14
crazygir;)14:14
gabkdllycrazygir: you would not happen to have a VIA chipset on your IDE controller, would you?14:15
gabkdlly VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C perhaps?14:16
crazygirthe possibilities of that is high gabkdlly, at least for one of the systems14:16
* crazygir is checking14:16
crazygirgabkdlly: I'm assuming that is what you have?14:16
gabkdllyyes14:17
PrebenRhi. My wife runs xubuntu on an asus eee 901 PC. It has a 1024x600 display. She wants to connect the laptop to a projector with resolution 800x600. I'm trying to get xrandr to work so that the Asus PC also has 800x600, but if I use --mode 800x600 I get "no mode". How can I add this resolution?16:24
Odd-rationalePrebenR: did you try xrandr -s 800x600 ?16:25
PrebenRI tried adding Modes "1024x600" "800x600" "640x480" in the xorg.conf but didn't help16:25
PrebenRno16:25
PrebenRtried now16:26
PrebenRSize 800x600 not found in available modes16:26
Odd-rationalehmm. can you pastebin the output of "xrandr" ?16:27
PrebenRin the setting-> display I also just get Defualt and 640x48016:27
PrebenRwait a bit to connect the asus to the net16:28
evanthiahi (PrebenR) from asus16:36
evanthiawhere is the xrandr output?16:36
viddevanthia, you open terminal and type xrandr16:37
evanthiayes, but there is no output16:37
evanthiaah16:37
evanthiathat output16:37
evanthiaI thought it was whyle using the -s 800x600 option16:38
evanthiahttp://pastebin.com/d327cafa516:38
evanthiahere is the output16:39
Odd-rationaleevanthia: and how about your xorg.conf?16:39
Odd-rationalewhat version of ubuntu is this btw...16:39
evanthiaxubuntu 8.2016:39
evanthia8.1016:39
Odd-rationalek16:39
evanthiaI had the default xorg.conf (no setup)16:40
evanthiaI'll paste the one I use now16:40
evanthiahttp://pastebin.com/d65c22a4216:41
evanthiathere are no modelines, but is that needed?16:43
Odd-rationaleevanthia: try adding a DefaultDepth 24 line: http://pastebin.com/m159766e016:46
Odd-rationalethe restart X (logout) and pastebin the output of xrandr again...16:47
Odd-rationalethen*16:47
evanthiayes16:47
evanthiano change to the xrandr output16:51
Odd-rationalehmm...16:51
evanthiashall I pastebin Xorg.0.log?16:52
sinboxwhile you're there: where would I find Xorg logs?16:54
sinboxeverytime I reboot I get a "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" window and I have to manually select the correct monitor, how can I make the change permanent?16:54
neozensinbox: /var/log/16:55
neozensinbox: will be named Xorg.0.log Xorg.1.log etc16:55
evanthiahttp://pastebin.com/d5f9f552416:55
sinboxuhoh I think I just made things worse, I now get a "cannot display this video mode" on startup  :/16:56
evanthiahere is the Xorg.0.log16:56
sinboxarghhh16:56
neozensinbox: ....that was quick16:57
neozensinbox: did you backup the file before you changed something?16:57
neozensinbox: standard procedure for me when dealing w/ xorg.conf16:57
sinboxwell, I'd just tried saving a display setup that worked and rebooted, but it obviously doesn't like it, nope I did not backup anything as I changed it from the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" startup prompt and just saved the one I had to select everytime, anyway neozen I have to run out so I'll come back some other time to pick people's brain on how to fix this  :)16:58
neozensinbox: I may not be here.... but someone who can help you probably will16:59
neozensinbox: X is still something of a finicky beast on certain architectures17:00
sinboxI didn't actually change it by hand but I know for a fact that it has backed up itself automatically on a daily basis since the problkem started so it shouldn't be a problem restoring a working copy anyway :)  I'm sure I'll find someone tommorrow17:00
neozensinbox: ::nods::17:00
sinboxwell, this is a prehistoric machine as it happens17:00
sinbox;-)17:00
Odd-rationaleevanthia: hmm... what happens if you generate a new xorg.conf (sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg), restart X, and check the output of xrandr?17:00
neozensinbox: heeheh17:00
evanthiasame output17:01
evanthiadid it once before17:01
Odd-rationaleevanthia: maybe you card does not support that reolution...17:02
evanthiait is not the driver?17:02
Odd-rationalei'm not sure...17:02
evanthiafound it17:04
evanthiaxrandr --newmode "800x600" 38.21 800 832 976 1008 600 612 618 63117:05
evanthiaxrandr --addmode LVDS "800x600"17:05
evanthiaworks17:05
evanthiaxorg 1.5 doesn't detect all modes17:05
Odd-rationaleok :)17:05
evanthiaI was finally lucky with the googling :-)17:06
evanthiathanks for help17:06
Odd-rationalenp.17:06
evanthiaxrandr fives   800x600        60.117:06
evanthiagives17:06
evanthiamaybe it is a problem that it is above 60?17:07
sinboxwhen I try to cd to /X11 from /etc in a tty it tells me: no such file or directory17:07
sinboxok got it got to go there from file system17:08
Odd-rationalesinbox: if you are in /etc/ , then cd to X11/17:08
evanthiasinbox: / means root of system, so cd /etc/X11 or cd X11, not cd /X11 because there is no X11 directory in the root17:10
sinboxso now I probably need to do: "cp ./xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf" to put that backup file in place of the messed up one is that correct?17:11
Odd-rationalesinbox: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:11
Odd-rationaleit is always safer to use full name when unsure... :)17:12
sinboxOK I'll do that, but the backup files seem to have numbers appended rather than a bak extension will report in a couple of minutes17:13
Odd-rationalesinbox: use tab completion :P17:13
sinboxyes I've learnt that bit but thanks all the same Odd-rationale :)  rebooting now17:15
sinboxsuccess booting Xorg graphics into gdm now17:15
Odd-rationale:D17:16
Odd-rationale!yay17:16
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)17:16
sinboxI'm wondering if doing a dpkg-reconfigure Xorg might be the easy way to solve my main problem17:17
sinboxmind you: I didn't get a low graphics warning so maybe it's already fixed17:17
* sinbox does a full shut down and boot again to check17:18
Odd-rationalemost people can run without an xorg.conf file... like me :P17:18
Odd-rationalewith the new xorg, that is...17:19
sinboxwow and it works :) guess I hadn't made that much of a mess then ;-)17:19
sinboxwell, I'm on 8.04 as some of the apps I really need seem to have a bunch of issues on 8.10, but I've installed fluxbox to save on ressources and am planning on swapping gdm with either xdm or slim17:20
Odd-rationalesinbox: or you can use a text login... i did that for a time... :D17:21
sinboxwell, I'm setting up the machine for some DJs to use: computer savvy they're not17:22
sinboxin fact I might enable autologin for them17:22
sinboxok out before I bugger up anything else :D17:30
marcoI have a strange problem with xubuntu 8.1018:28
marcowhen xubuntu starts the cpu fan stop18:28
marcoit's not a fake18:28
marcoi really can't uderstand18:28
marcoseems like a problem with power managment18:28
marcoi need to change distro, i can't wait18:33
hhh3ma dove?18:35
hhh3che pc hai?18:35
charlie-tca!it18:38
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:38
Craleuhello, i'd like to ask a question about a install21:13
Craleukernel panic - no syncing while trying to install on a dell dimension 515021:14
Genelykit's  burn good cd ?21:21
TheSheepGenelyk: he's gone21:22
TheSheepthey do it on purpose to annoy us :)21:22
Genelykjeje21:24
neozendern impatient users ::grin::21:25
neozensalutations arualavi21:25
arualavihi neozen21:26
ryuho-eeepcanyone know about japanese (or i guess any) language input with scim21:31
ryuho-eeepcor any other way to input non-english chracters in xubuntu?21:31
ryuho-eeepcusing xubuntu 8.1021:31
TheSheep!japanese21:32
ubottu日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい21:32
TheSheephmm21:32
ryuho-eeepcwell it's not just japanese21:33
TheSheepryuho-eeepc: I just use a compose key21:33
ryuho-eeepci can't change from english at all21:33
TheSheepryuho-eeepc: but it only works with latin-like characters21:33
ryuho-eeepcscim doesn't give me an option to change, even if i enabled it in the options21:33
TheSheep!keyboard21:33
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts21:33
ryuho-eeepcfdsa21:34
ryuho-eeepcit just feels like scim isn't working at all21:37
ryuho-eeepcit wont even do spanish, and i know you don't need to change keyboard layout21:37
ryuho-eeepcfor spanish lol21:37
radicalboyHello! Can I run the latest version in this machine: AMD 450mhz, 256mb RAM, 20GB Hardisk, VGA Geforce 4 64MB22:25
radicalboy?22:25
Kudi1Are there any tutorials for optimizing xfce that anyone hear knows one? I have yet find an extensive one.22:25
XFCEntra1radicalboy: xubuntu should work well for you, and I would first use that instead of Ubuntu (GNOME)22:26
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TheSheepkudi1: not much to optimize in xfce itself22:27
radicalboyXFCEntra122:27
radicalboyi use ubuntu 6.06, but this version is long time ago..22:27
radicalboyi tried debian also22:27
XFCEntra1radicalboy: Xubuntu 8.10 shouldn't give you trouble on that hardware. how did debian work for you? was that a current version?22:28
radicalboyi use debian 4.0.r5 xfce22:29
kudi1it seams like a lot of you guys dont care about new releases, ha22:30
XFCEntra1radicalboy: are you concerned the new release of Xubuntu will run slower on that setup?22:31
kudi1i just wish ubuntu had rolling release22:31
radicalboyXFCEntra1, i just want a version to work well, without trouble and not slowly22:33
XFCEntra1and debian etch with xfce wasn't slim enough? you could try using the Fluxbox window manager instead of Xfce. it is a bit bare and you will have to edit config files more often, but it is very light.22:35
XFCEntra1radicalboy: you might try Fluxbuntu if you're interested in Fluxbox and want a new, debian-base distro to try22:36
kudi1how do i add places to the xfce menue22:48
my_keyi have a problem with the ath5k driver not functioning after suspend/resume (itrepid with linux-modules-backports-generic package installed). Does anybody know how to fix this?23:19
Kudi1how do i put "places" in the menu?23:43

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