[00:27] <lsimmonds2008> Hello, i need some help
[00:29] <Spiegel> I am getting an error on shutting down, any help would be appreciated
[00:29] <Spiegel> [numbers] CIFS VFS: server not responding
[00:29] <Spiegel> [numbers] CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 50 mid 922
[00:37] <lsimmonds2008> just hold the button for 6 seconds
[00:37] <lsimmonds2008> hows that? ):
[00:37] <lsimmonds2008> (:  *
[01:35] <s1amson> anybody had luck with xmms::info pipe?
[01:35] <s1amson> erm
[01:35] <s1amson> i mean xmms::remote
[01:38] <cody-somerville> not i
[01:40] <s1amson> cody-somerville, ever ran into a   Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
[01:40] <s1amson> i know make works
[01:50] <itai_michaelson> i have an application that minimize itself into the tray. in gnome in i can see it , but how do i see it in xfce?
[01:52] <s1amson> not many people are here. try #xfce
[01:53] <itai_michaelson> i will...
[02:01] <s1amson> damn, i tried gqmpeg with mpg321 but i have the same prollem i had with bmp years ago (never tried bmp since) it wont recourse directories
[03:25] <R3cursive> If I install a new, special kernel that is supposed to be for Ubuntu, will it work with Xubuntu?
[03:29] <R3cursive> sendpass Recursive mathnerd@mchsi.com
[03:29] <R3cursive> shit
[05:18] <Oloryn> Is there anything tricky about cross-grading a Ubuntu 8.10 machine to Xubuntu 8.10?  Does it require more than 'apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'?  What's the best way to get rid of Ubuntu-specific packages afterwards?
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> !purexfce | Oloryn
[05:20] <Oloryn> Ah, lovely.   TYVM
[05:21] <Odd-rationale> np
[05:22] <Oloryn> I've got an old Armada 7800 laptop whose CD-ROM drive doesn't like the CD-Rs my other systems create.  Simplest thing to do seems to be to install an Ubuntu ShipIt CD, and then crossgrade to Xubuntu
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> Oloryn: well, did you try verifying the iso?
[05:26] <Oloryn> yes, burned 3 different ones.  I've seen this before on this laptop.  It's just the CD-ROM drive itself I think.
[05:28] <Oloryn> But 8.10 finally deals sanely with the display on it (7.04 and 7.10 didn't)
[08:54] <Kred> ls
[08:54] <Kred> wrong window.. wrong computer
[08:54] <ooglebutte> hehe
[08:55] <Kred> Having three keyboards, three screens with multiple xterms..
[08:55] <ooglebutte> that would give me a complex
[10:37] <steph33560> hello
[10:39] <steph33560> How setup firefox to not use opendns ?
[10:39] <steph33560> keyword.url in about:config seems ok, boolean switch to true but typing someting in address bar still goes to opendns :(
[10:39] <ooglebutte> edit/pref will have some options
[10:42] <steph33560> ooglebutte, did not find things in edit/prefs ....
[10:43] <ooglebutte> edit/pref/general/connection settings   was what I was thinking of...
[10:43] <ooglebutte> steph33560: ^
[10:44] <steph33560> ooglebutte, yep seen, gonna check this
[10:47] <steph33560> ooglebutte, can't find this o_O
[10:49] <ooglebutte> steph33560: errr I'm still using ff2...
[10:49] <steph33560> ooglebutte, what is for you the number of the top item you click on (1 to 7)
[10:49] <steph33560> ooglebutte, ha ok
[10:50] <ooglebutte> dapper ftw :)
[10:55] <R1cochet> i wanted to try out xmms 2 but when reading the package info in synaptic i dont see one that is gui, only command based but ive seen tons of skins for it
[10:56] <ooglebutte> !xmms2
[10:57] <ooglebutte> I use mpg123 here
[10:57] <R1cochet> !xmms2
[10:57] <ooglebutte> isn't beep something the recommended replacement for xmms?
[10:58] <R1cochet> i dont know i just wanted a nice player other than audacious
[11:00] <ooglebutte> amorok gets plenty of recommendations - might be heavy on the dependencies tho
[13:15] <crazygir> hiya! when trying to boot the 8.10 livecd, I'm getting these squashfs errors: [222.638986] BUffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block #######  as well as sb_dread failed, unable to read fragment cache, this all just keeps coming. the first number in the brackets increments too.
[13:15] <crazygir> has anyone else run into this?
[13:15] <crazygir> I've tested two separate computers, two separate burned cds, and two separate iso downloads
[13:16]  * crazygir crosses fingers
[13:18] <ldp> crazygir: It basically means the livecd won't work
[13:18] <ldp> Because it has detected bad sectors on your CD drive
[13:18] <ldp> I have never been able to counter this issue, myself
[13:19] <ldp> My alternative is to install it from the alternat install cd
[13:19] <crazygir> this is the main iso off the official download page
[13:19] <ldp> crazygir: Yes, I know
[13:19] <crazygir> I've tried an older cdrw and a brand new, not-scratched, blank cdr
[13:20] <crazygir> ldp: so what is the suggested course-of-action?
[13:20] <crazygir> :P
[13:20] <ldp> crazygir: Get the alternate install CD :D
[13:20] <crazygir> is this common?
[13:20] <crazygir> is the problem in creating the livecd? or in burning? or in media?
[13:21] <ldp> It's usually the iso
[13:21] <ldp> Maybe downloading it again off a different location may help (via torrent, perhaps?)
[13:23] <vidd> crazygir, how old is the system trying to run the cd?
[13:23] <vidd> and does it even get to the point of the menu?
[13:23] <crazygir> vidd: I've used two systems, an older p4 laptop and a newer amd64 desktop
[13:24] <crazygir> vidd: and yes, I get through to the menu
[13:24] <crazygir> if I select either test or install, I run into the errors
[13:24] <vidd> crazygir, the amd64 will not load the i386 image.....
[13:24] <crazygir> what?
[13:25] <crazygir> why? that's insane
[13:25] <vidd> why is that insane?
[13:25] <crazygir> because the amd64 processes 32bit code fine
[13:25] <vidd> why would you expect a amd64 arch to be able to run an image configured for the i386 architecture?
[13:26] <gabkdlly> I have also encountered such IO errors
[13:26] <crazygir> are we really talking about the same thing?
[13:26] <crazygir> vidd: are you saying that an i386 livecd will not run on an amd64 based system?
[13:27] <crazygir> gabkdlly: that's lame
[13:27] <crazygir> :P
[13:27] <vidd> crazygir, let me adjust my statement to *MAY*
[13:27] <crazygir> what?
[13:27] <crazygir> have you used *any* other os?
[13:27]  * vidd has no amd64 processor to test on because of such incompatabilities....
[13:27] <crazygir> 32bit code runs *fine* on an amd64 based system
[13:28] <crazygir> vidd: where are you getting this information?
[13:28] <vidd> from the numerous reports of i386-based apps (such as java and flash) not working properly
[13:29] <vidd> now i MAY be mistaken...there may have been adjustments made to accomodate these incompatabilities
[13:29] <crazygir> vidd: that's trying to get *those* 32bit binaries (because we don't have the code to compile) to run on an amd64 based *OS*
[13:29] <crazygir> now *stop* confusing people with things you don't fully understand
[13:29] <crazygir> :P
[13:30] <crazygir> vidd: the *system* is different from the *OS*
[13:30] <vidd> have you TRIED the amd64 bit image?
[13:30] <crazygir> no, I have no need to
[13:31] <vidd> if your going to attempt to run it on amd64 hardware, you might want to consider it
[13:31] <crazygir> vidd: you are horrendously misinformed here, unless xubuntu is incapable of something *every* other os is
[13:31] <crazygir> vidd: please STOP giving out bad information
[13:31] <crazygir> you are worse than a windows user
[13:31] <crazygir> if you don't know, that's ok
[13:31] <vidd> then tell me....why does PPC not load the i386 image?
[13:32] <vidd> or SPARC?
[13:32] <crazygir> because a powerpc chip *cannot* execute i386 code
[13:32] <crazygir> AMD64's *CAN*
[13:32] <vidd> ah! thats because the architecture of the KERNEL needs to be different!
[13:32] <crazygir> it was part of migrating the consumers
[13:32] <crazygir> oh vidd quit it
[13:32] <vidd> humor me....get the amd64 image
[13:33] <crazygir> thanks to those who corroborated the squash fs errors, I'll try a different iso
[13:34] <crazygir> vidd: no, because you are *not* correct here, and I have no need to run the amd64 image. if this is in fact what xubuntu would need, I'll find another linux distribution
[13:34] <crazygir> please, please, stop mis-informing people vidd
[13:34]  * crazygir wanders off for better things
[14:01] <Myrtti> crazygir: could it be that your cd-rom drive lense is dirty or something? have you tried the cd's on other machines?
[14:05] <Myrtti> crazygir: also did you check the cd integrity with the inbuilt integrity check?
[14:10] <vidd> \0. maxamillion
[14:12] <crazygir> Myrtti: I have tried two separate machines, so yes, I have tried different drives
[14:12] <crazygir> I'm about to download a different iso image to test out
[14:13] <vidd> crazygir, i was mistaken....the amd64 wont work on the i386....but the i386 should work on the amd64
[14:13] <Myrtti> remember to check the md5sum before and after burning
[14:13] <crazygir> vidd: of course.
[14:14] <crazygir> I understand mixing this all up, but be careful with the information you are giving people
[14:14] <vidd> i appologize for the misunderstanding
[14:14] <crazygir> no worries
[14:14] <crazygir> I'm less concerned with me, and more with the newb you might be informing
[14:14] <crazygir> ;)
[14:15] <gabkdlly> crazygir: you would not happen to have a VIA chipset on your IDE controller, would you?
[14:16] <gabkdlly>  VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C perhaps?
[14:16] <crazygir> the possibilities of that is high gabkdlly, at least for one of the systems
[14:16]  * crazygir is checking
[14:16] <crazygir> gabkdlly: I'm assuming that is what you have?
[14:17] <gabkdlly> yes
[16:24] <PrebenR> hi. My wife runs xubuntu on an asus eee 901 PC. It has a 1024x600 display. She wants to connect the laptop to a projector with resolution 800x600. I'm trying to get xrandr to work so that the Asus PC also has 800x600, but if I use --mode 800x600 I get "no mode". How can I add this resolution?
[16:25] <Odd-rationale> PrebenR: did you try xrandr -s 800x600 ?
[16:25] <PrebenR> I tried adding Modes "1024x600" "800x600" "640x480" in the xorg.conf but didn't help
[16:25] <PrebenR> no
[16:26] <PrebenR> tried now
[16:26] <PrebenR> Size 800x600 not found in available modes
[16:27] <Odd-rationale> hmm. can you pastebin the output of "xrandr" ?
[16:27] <PrebenR> in the setting-> display I also just get Defualt and 640x480
[16:28] <PrebenR> wait a bit to connect the asus to the net
[16:36] <evanthia> hi (PrebenR) from asus
[16:36] <evanthia> where is the xrandr output?
[16:37] <vidd> evanthia, you open terminal and type xrandr
[16:37] <evanthia> yes, but there is no output
[16:37] <evanthia> ah
[16:37] <evanthia> that output
[16:38] <evanthia> I thought it was whyle using the -s 800x600 option
[16:38] <evanthia> http://pastebin.com/d327cafa5
[16:39] <evanthia> here is the output
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> evanthia: and how about your xorg.conf?
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> what version of ubuntu is this btw...
[16:39] <evanthia> xubuntu 8.20
[16:39] <evanthia> 8.10
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> k
[16:40] <evanthia> I had the default xorg.conf (no setup)
[16:40] <evanthia> I'll paste the one I use now
[16:41] <evanthia> http://pastebin.com/d65c22a42
[16:43] <evanthia> there are no modelines, but is that needed?
[16:46] <Odd-rationale> evanthia: try adding a DefaultDepth 24 line: http://pastebin.com/m159766e0
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> the restart X (logout) and pastebin the output of xrandr again...
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> then*
[16:47] <evanthia> yes
[16:51] <evanthia> no change to the xrandr output
[16:51] <Odd-rationale> hmm...
[16:52] <evanthia> shall I pastebin Xorg.0.log?
[16:54] <sinbox> while you're there: where would I find Xorg logs?
[16:54] <sinbox> everytime I reboot I get a "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" window and I have to manually select the correct monitor, how can I make the change permanent?
[16:55] <neozen> sinbox: /var/log/
[16:55] <neozen> sinbox: will be named Xorg.0.log Xorg.1.log etc
[16:55] <evanthia> http://pastebin.com/d5f9f5524
[16:56] <sinbox> uhoh I think I just made things worse, I now get a "cannot display this video mode" on startup  :/
[16:56] <evanthia> here is the Xorg.0.log
[16:56] <sinbox> arghhh
[16:57] <neozen> sinbox: ....that was quick
[16:57] <neozen> sinbox: did you backup the file before you changed something?
[16:57] <neozen> sinbox: standard procedure for me when dealing w/ xorg.conf
[16:58] <sinbox> well, I'd just tried saving a display setup that worked and rebooted, but it obviously doesn't like it, nope I did not backup anything as I changed it from the "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" startup prompt and just saved the one I had to select everytime, anyway neozen I have to run out so I'll come back some other time to pick people's brain on how to fix this  :)
[16:59] <neozen> sinbox: I may not be here.... but someone who can help you probably will
[17:00] <neozen> sinbox: X is still something of a finicky beast on certain architectures
[17:00] <sinbox> I didn't actually change it by hand but I know for a fact that it has backed up itself automatically on a daily basis since the problkem started so it shouldn't be a problem restoring a working copy anyway :)  I'm sure I'll find someone tommorrow
[17:00] <neozen> sinbox: ::nods::
[17:00] <sinbox> well, this is a prehistoric machine as it happens
[17:00] <sinbox> ;-)
[17:00] <Odd-rationale> evanthia: hmm... what happens if you generate a new xorg.conf (sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg), restart X, and check the output of xrandr?
[17:00] <neozen> sinbox: heeheh
[17:01] <evanthia> same output
[17:01] <evanthia> did it once before
[17:02] <Odd-rationale> evanthia: maybe you card does not support that reolution...
[17:02] <evanthia> it is not the driver?
[17:02] <Odd-rationale> i'm not sure...
[17:04] <evanthia> found it
[17:05] <evanthia> xrandr --newmode "800x600" 38.21 800 832 976 1008 600 612 618 631
[17:05] <evanthia> xrandr --addmode LVDS "800x600"
[17:05] <evanthia> works
[17:05] <evanthia> xorg 1.5 doesn't detect all modes
[17:05] <Odd-rationale> ok :)
[17:06] <evanthia> I was finally lucky with the googling :-)
[17:06] <evanthia> thanks for help
[17:06] <Odd-rationale> np.
[17:06] <evanthia> xrandr fives   800x600        60.1
[17:06] <evanthia> gives
[17:07] <evanthia> maybe it is a problem that it is above 60?
[17:07] <sinbox> when I try to cd to /X11 from /etc in a tty it tells me: no such file or directory
[17:08] <sinbox> ok got it got to go there from file system
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> sinbox: if you are in /etc/ , then cd to X11/
[17:10] <evanthia> sinbox: / means root of system, so cd /etc/X11 or cd X11, not cd /X11 because there is no X11 directory in the root
[17:11] <sinbox> so now I probably need to do: "cp ./xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf" to put that backup file in place of the messed up one is that correct?
[17:11] <Odd-rationale> sinbox: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:12] <Odd-rationale> it is always safer to use full name when unsure... :)
[17:13] <sinbox> OK I'll do that, but the backup files seem to have numbers appended rather than a bak extension will report in a couple of minutes
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> sinbox: use tab completion :P
[17:15] <sinbox> yes I've learnt that bit but thanks all the same Odd-rationale :)  rebooting now
[17:15] <sinbox> success booting Xorg graphics into gdm now
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> :D
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> !yay
[17:17] <sinbox> I'm wondering if doing a dpkg-reconfigure Xorg might be the easy way to solve my main problem
[17:17] <sinbox> mind you: I didn't get a low graphics warning so maybe it's already fixed
[17:18]  * sinbox does a full shut down and boot again to check
[17:18] <Odd-rationale> most people can run without an xorg.conf file... like me :P
[17:19] <Odd-rationale> with the new xorg, that is...
[17:19] <sinbox> wow and it works :) guess I hadn't made that much of a mess then ;-)
[17:20] <sinbox> well, I'm on 8.04 as some of the apps I really need seem to have a bunch of issues on 8.10, but I've installed fluxbox to save on ressources and am planning on swapping gdm with either xdm or slim
[17:21] <Odd-rationale> sinbox: or you can use a text login... i did that for a time... :D
[17:22] <sinbox> well, I'm setting up the machine for some DJs to use: computer savvy they're not
[17:22] <sinbox> in fact I might enable autologin for them
[17:30] <sinbox> ok out before I bugger up anything else :D
[18:28] <marco> I have a strange problem with xubuntu 8.10
[18:28] <marco> when xubuntu starts the cpu fan stop
[18:28] <marco> it's not a fake
[18:28] <marco> i really can't uderstand
[18:28] <marco> seems like a problem with power managment
[18:33] <marco> i need to change distro, i can't wait
[18:35] <hhh3> ma dove?
[18:35] <hhh3> che pc hai?
[18:38] <charlie-tca> !it
[21:13] <Craleu> hello, i'd like to ask a question about a install
[21:14] <Craleu> kernel panic - no syncing while trying to install on a dell dimension 5150
[21:21] <Genelyk> it's  burn good cd ?
[21:22] <TheSheep> Genelyk: he's gone
[21:22] <TheSheep> they do it on purpose to annoy us :)
[21:24] <Genelyk> jeje
[21:25] <neozen> dern impatient users ::grin::
[21:25] <neozen> salutations arualavi
[21:26] <arualavi> hi neozen
[21:31] <ryuho-eeepc> anyone know about japanese (or i guess any) language input with scim
[21:31] <ryuho-eeepc> or any other way to input non-english chracters in xubuntu?
[21:31] <ryuho-eeepc> using xubuntu 8.10
[21:32] <TheSheep> !japanese
[21:32] <TheSheep> hmm
[21:33] <ryuho-eeepc> well it's not just japanese
[21:33] <TheSheep> ryuho-eeepc: I just use a compose key
[21:33] <ryuho-eeepc> i can't change from english at all
[21:33] <TheSheep> ryuho-eeepc: but it only works with latin-like characters
[21:33] <ryuho-eeepc> scim doesn't give me an option to change, even if i enabled it in the options
[21:33] <TheSheep> !keyboard
[21:34] <ryuho-eeepc> fdsa
[21:37] <ryuho-eeepc> it just feels like scim isn't working at all
[21:37] <ryuho-eeepc> it wont even do spanish, and i know you don't need to change keyboard layout
[21:37] <ryuho-eeepc> for spanish lol
[22:25] <radicalboy> Hello! Can I run the latest version in this machine: AMD 450mhz, 256mb RAM, 20GB Hardisk, VGA Geforce 4 64MB
[22:25] <radicalboy> ?
[22:25] <Kudi1> Are there any tutorials for optimizing xfce that anyone hear knows one? I have yet find an extensive one.
[22:26] <XFCEntra1> radicalboy: xubuntu should work well for you, and I would first use that instead of Ubuntu (GNOME)
[22:27] <TheSheep> kudi1: not much to optimize in xfce itself
[22:27] <radicalboy> XFCEntra1
[22:27] <radicalboy> i use ubuntu 6.06, but this version is long time ago..
[22:27] <radicalboy> i tried debian also
[22:28] <XFCEntra1> radicalboy: Xubuntu 8.10 shouldn't give you trouble on that hardware. how did debian work for you? was that a current version?
[22:29] <radicalboy> i use debian 4.0.r5 xfce
[22:30] <kudi1> it seams like a lot of you guys dont care about new releases, ha
[22:31] <XFCEntra1> radicalboy: are you concerned the new release of Xubuntu will run slower on that setup?
[22:31] <kudi1> i just wish ubuntu had rolling release
[22:33] <radicalboy> XFCEntra1, i just want a version to work well, without trouble and not slowly
[22:35] <XFCEntra1> and debian etch with xfce wasn't slim enough? you could try using the Fluxbox window manager instead of Xfce. it is a bit bare and you will have to edit config files more often, but it is very light.
[22:36] <XFCEntra1> radicalboy: you might try Fluxbuntu if you're interested in Fluxbox and want a new, debian-base distro to try
[22:48] <kudi1> how do i add places to the xfce menue
[23:19] <my_key> i have a problem with the ath5k driver not functioning after suspend/resume (itrepid with linux-modules-backports-generic package installed). Does anybody know how to fix this?
[23:43] <Kudi1> how do i put "places" in the menu?