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[00:00] <ActionParsnip> astromme: its not supported here as its not released, head into #ubuntu+1
[00:00] <wesley__> yeah but you are using a alpha kubuntu
[00:00] <david_edmundson> wesley__: I'm still at the "wow, this has so much potential! but isn't quite super polished yet" stage
[00:00] <wesley__> have you even see 4.0 ?
[00:00] <astromme> ActionParsmip. I'm not asking for support here, just commenting on my experiences
[00:00] <david_edmundson> I've been keeping up with SVN
[00:01] <david_edmundson> but run 4.1 on my main desktyop
[00:01] <wesley__> oh nice, its a beta but i believe its already stable for daily use
[00:01] <david_edmundson> stable yes
[00:01] <wesley__> i havent had a crash in production use
[00:02] <wesley__> systembar is fixed in 4.2
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> astromme: ok cool :)
[00:02] <wesley__> only i though kde would bring a new networkmanager for kde.2
[00:02] <wesley__> 4.2
[00:02] <david_edmundson> at work we're still on KDE 3.4.... it's driving me nuts...
[00:03] <cuznt> when i do chmod777 it says there is a missing operand
[00:03] <Daisuke_Ido> david_edmundson: probably safer that way
[00:03] <astromme> at least you're on kde in the first place
[00:03] <david_edmundson> 3.5 would be an improvement
[00:03] <Daisuke_Ido> cuznt: um, because it's chmod 777, not chmod777
[00:03] <cuznt> ah
[00:03] <cuznt> thanks
[00:03] <david_edmundson> adn cuznt you need the filename after the 777
[00:03] <Daisuke_Ido> just be careful playing with that
[00:04] <Daisuke_Ido> last thing you need is all of /etc to be world-writable
[00:04] <soa2ii> Hi there. I'm on gentoo here and just installed KDE 4.1.3. Konqueror is horribly slowly but on the kubuntu desktop I have on my workplace it is not. Does anyone know if the kubuntu-team changes smth with the default settings?
[00:04] <david_edmundson> they add on an ad-block list
[00:04] <david_edmundson> that's the only change I know of
[00:05] <david_edmundson> konqueror is slow, or "network in general" ?
[00:05] <soa2ii> Just konqueror
[00:05] <soa2ii> firefox is alright
[00:05] <soa2ii> mail also
[00:05] <soa2ii> kmail even
[00:05] <soa2ii> Just http with firefox
[00:05] <soa2ii> uh konqueror... sorry
[00:06] <david_edmundson> there is some bizarre "bug"(lacking feature) in that konq does a DNS lookup on each request
[00:06] <david_edmundson> but that's the only konq/FF difference I can think of
[00:06] <sd32> and multiple requests
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> if you want a nippy browser try opera
[00:06] <david_edmundson> right. bed time for me.
[00:07] <soa2ii> ActionParsnip: I have FF, Opera and Konqueror installed.
[00:07] <soa2ii> But I just like Konqueror (:
[00:07] <david_edmundson> stick with the FOSS!
[00:07] <soa2ii> Opera is fine too
[00:07] <david_edmundson> me too
[00:07] <Xand3r> ActionParsnip:
[00:07] <soa2ii> So I would like to fix konquerors dns behaviour...
[00:08] <Xand3r> ActionParsnip: there is now solution
[00:08] <soa2ii> does kubuntu ship a local dns cache?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Xand3r: sup?
[00:08] <Xand3r> the link you geved me
[00:08] <david_edmundson> soa2ii: doesn't seem to
[00:09] <Xand3r> it shows a unsolved treat
[00:09] <soa2ii> david_edmundson: weird.
[00:09] <soa2ii> But why is it slow here and on my other system not?
[00:10] <david_edmundson> Xand3r: which app do you want to hide the mouse in?
[00:10] <david_edmundson> soa2ii: check your network cable is in fully :-P
[00:10] <Xand3r> david_edmundson: i start a game with wine, but the desktop mouse is still shown, so i just want to hide it in the game
[00:10] <david_edmundson> ah ok
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[00:15] <CoJaBo-Eee> ActionParsnip: Ok, apparently the problem is that Dolphin cannot be running when I run the mount command.
[00:16] <BluesKaj> 'evening all
[00:16] <astromme> Well, this is better. I guess I just get to use my older nvidia card
[00:38] <Cannon> hi all
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[00:40] <Cannon> i installed kubuntu earlier and all the fonts are really small ... i've checked the size in the settings and they are set to a normal size of 9 ... if I increase them all it still doesn't help as apps such as adept, the writing is too small to read ... what can I do?
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[00:43] <JontheEchidna> Cannon: adept is special in that it is run as root
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> you can change font settings for root-run apps by running systemsettings as root. (Alt +F2, type kdesudo systemsettings)
[00:44] <Cannon> yes JontheEchidna ... but my point is that 9 should be more than big enough
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> maybe the X dpi settings are screwed?
[00:44] <Cannon> could be ... how do I fix?
[00:45] <Cannon> i did notice that it was the same with the live cd too
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[00:49] <Cannon> any other thoughts JontheEchidna?
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> nope, I'm not really an expert with that type of stuff, and it works for me (tm) so I'm not too experienced with fixing stuff like that
[00:50] <Cannon> k, thanks anyways
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[00:59] <noteosvaldo_> rectec
[00:59] <birkof> hi all :)
[01:00] <birkof> anyone having trouble with kmap and diimap?
[01:00] <genii> !br | noteosvaldo_
[01:00] <ubottu> noteosvaldo_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:00] <birkof> kmail...
[01:01] <NeoMIRV> hmm, I just upgraded to intrepid (from hardy) and every video I play (all formats) flicker really badly. Anyone know if this is a known issue or?
[01:01] <birkof> NeoMIRV: never heard about. with nvidia all run fine, after upgrade
[01:02] <birkof> NeoMIRV: are you sure yu are using correct video driver?
[01:02] <NeoMIRV> Yeah, I'm wondering if its something in the new fglrx (yes ATI :( *sigh* ) restricted drivers
[01:02] <birkof> NeoMIRV: sorry, i can't help you :(
[01:03] <birkof> NeoMIRV: maybe envy can?
[01:03] <mister-tea> !envy
[01:03] <ubottu> envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk
[01:03] <birkof> wow
[01:04] <birkof> !kmail
[01:04] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmail
[01:04] <NeoMIRV> hmm
[01:04] <birkof> !disconnected imap
[01:04] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:04] <burn_> NeoMIRV u have problem with new ati radeon drivers on 8.10?
[01:04] <birkof> !dimap
[01:04] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dimap
[01:04] <NeoMIRV> I suppose that's what it is
[01:04] <NeoMIRV> All my video's flicker really really bad
[01:04] <burn_> i have the same problems
[01:05] <burn_> and when i click on activate drivers on hardvare tool nothing happends
[01:05] <mister-tea> birkof:  you should pm ubottu if you don't know if the factoids exsist
[01:06] <guest00007> hi, i am having a problem with the keyboard shortcut ctrl+alt+n... It is used to open a new tab in the konsole window, and that works fine, but the problem is that it also sets the volume control to 100%.  I checked the ~/.xine/config file to see if it had anything in there but i didn't see any references to any keyboard shortcuts.  Also I checked the keyboard settings in the system settings under the K menu, but it wasn't t
[01:06] <birkof> mister-tea: ok, sorry :)
[01:06] <mister-tea> np
[01:07] <mister-tea> !bot
[01:07] <ubottu> Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:07] <NeoMIRV> what's this about envy?
[01:07] <NeoMIRV> I don't get it
[01:09] <birkof> mister-tea: ubottu neither can help me :(
[01:09] <birkof> NeoMIRV: apt-cache search envy
[01:09] <birkof> NeoMIRV: in a terminal
[01:10] <NeoMIRV> ah I see these are just bleeding edge drivers or something eh
[01:10] <mister-tea> birkof: I can only suggest you state the nature and errors of your problem and if any one here knows the answer they will likely reply
[01:11] <mister-tea> be very specific more info is better
[01:13] <genii> NeoMIRV: Yes, the envyng is just a set of scripts which get the latest drivers from the manufacturer and install them. But as the bot warns, these scripts do not always work well.
[01:17] <birkof> everyone using dimap on kmail?
[01:17] <birkof> i've a weird problem since kde4.1: no subfolders are shown, just inbox
[01:17] <birkof> update to 4.1.80 (aka 4.2 beta1) didn't help
[01:17] <birkof> subscription dialogs (local and on the server) is ok, i see all the subfolders correctly
[01:17] <birkof> i'm googled around, but seems that i'm the only having this problem
[01:17] <birkof> server is a dovecot with courier compatibility enabled
[01:17] <birkof> I recreated the cache, unsubscribed and subcreibed, recreated the cache but, still no subfolders
[01:17] <birkof> any idea? kmail is unusable for me without disconnected imap (while imap works just fine)
[01:17] <birkof> if you need some other info, i'm here :)
[01:19] <NeoMIRV> hmm envyNG said I already had the latest and compatible installed
[01:19] <genii> birkof: Perhaps make mention in channel #kubuntu-devel
[01:20] <scarfhogg> hi all, i have a problem with plasma(?) on kde 4.1.3 (kubuntu 8.10): there is no panel anymore. also no wallpaper. the default plasmoids folder view and notes are there. but the background is just a white & grey checkerboard pattern.
[01:20] <birkof> genii: ok, i will try, thank you
[01:21] <scarfhogg> i already deleted the plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc files in ~/.kde/share/config but that doesn't help
[01:21] <guest00007> hi, i am having a problem with the keyboard shortcut ctrl+alt+n... It is used to open a new tab in the konsole window, and that works fine, but the problem is that it also sets the volume control to 100%.  I checked the ~/.xine/config file to see if it had anything in there but i didn't see any references to any keyboard shortcuts.  Also I checked the keyboard settings in the system settings under the K menu, but it wasn't t
[01:23] <guest00007> scarfhogg: I had a similar problem when i originally upgraded, and i noticed it happened when i had kmail set on startup in a ~/.kde4/Autostart/<script>
[01:24] <guest00007> scarhogg: i have no idea why it happened, but it did... I took it out of the script and i no longer had that problem... if that doesn't fix it, i have no other suggestions
[01:25] <birkof> scarfhogg: you can try to create a new test user, and see if the desktop is ok. If it is, you can logout, delete the whole .kde tree (backup is a good idea) and login again to see if helped
[01:26] <scarfhogg> thanks guest00007 and birkof, i'll give it a try
[01:26] <guest00007> scarfhogg: np
[01:27] <guest00007> birkof: do you have any suggestions with my problem?
[01:28] <birkof> guest00007: not really :(
[01:28] <birkof> the master volume jumps to 100%?
[01:28] <guest00007> ya, no idea why
[01:28] <guest00007> it is really annoying when i am listing to music and open a new terminal tab and the volume shoots up blaring loud...sux
[01:29] <birkof> guest00007: and do youaltready checked the keyboard shortcut?
[01:29] <birkof> let me give a try...
[01:29] <guest00007> ya, the one specifically for kmix is in the system settings/ keyboard section
[01:29] <birkof> are you using amarok tolisten music?
[01:30] <guest00007> no reference to ctrl+alt+n... ya, but it happens whether or not amarok is in the systray or not
[01:30] <guest00007> that is why i thought of the .xine
[01:30] <birkof> ok, let me try this
[01:30] <guest00007> dir
[01:31] <harolddong> kde-window-manager and kde-workspace-data conflict when trying to install the beta.  Is there a way around this? http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/80598/
[01:32] <birkof> guest00007: well, ctrl+alt+n didn't open a new tab in my konsole, and didn't alter the volume either...
[01:34] <birkof> guest00007: ctrl+shift+n do new tab, but didn't modify master volume
[01:34] <guest00007> goto your konsole->settings/configure\ shortcuts... what is your "new tab" shortcut
[01:35] <birkof> guest00007: ctrl+shift+n
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[01:35] <guest00007> ok, thanks for trying though..
[01:36] <scarfhogg> ctrl+shift+n seems to be the default for new tab in konsole. i have that too.
[01:37] <birkof> guest00007: ctrl+alt+n alter the volume even if no multimedia application is open?
[01:37] <burn_> try crtl+t
[01:37] <burn_> in console
[01:38] <guest00007> does anybody know if there is an xine has a keyboard shortcut file anywhere (cause i didn't see anything in the ~/.xine/config file)
[01:38] <guest00007> ya, that is the wierd thing no vlc, no mplayer, no nothing except kmix and it still goes to 100%
[01:39] <guest00007> ctrl+t doesn't do anything in the konsole
[01:39] <guest00007> i figure maybe it could be part of the xine daemon or something... cause i am running out of ideas
[01:40] <birkof> guest00007: and do you checked in system-settings->keyboard and mouse -> standard keyboard shortcuts?
[01:40] <guest00007> ya, there is a specific section for kmix in there, but no reference to ctrl+alt+n
[01:40] <guest00007> that is why i am here :)
[01:41] <guest00007> figured many more brains were better than my 1
[01:43] <guest00007> i guess i could hack it and change the konsole tab shortcut to something other than the default... i just like the idea of knowing the default so that it would work on any kde computer :)
[01:44] <birkof> guest00007: sorry, out of ideas, just checked my keyboard shortcuts but no ctrl+alt+n...
[01:45] <guest00007> birkof: check you keyboard shortcuts... which ones?
[01:45] <guest00007> *check->checked
[01:45] <guest00007> *you->your
[01:45] <birkof> guest00007: all of them
[01:46] <birkof> in  system-settings->keyboard and mouse
[01:46] <guest00007> ya that was where i started..
[01:46] <birkof> i can export scheme, if you like to diff with your
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[01:47] <guest00007> i don't think that is necessary, but thanks for the offer
[01:47] <birkof> guest00007: you welcome :)
[01:48]  * birkof will try again with google. damn dimap!!
[01:48] <birkof> good night
[01:48] <kristian_> Is there any way to enforce the use of the mga graphics driver in Intrepid? Xorg.conf is a no go, and autodetection seemingly fails.
[01:58] <sachith> hai all
[01:59] <SiVA_> is it ok if I install grub on /boot partition?
[02:01] <gui_> hey
[02:01] <kristian_> hi
[02:01] <SiVA_> hi
[02:01] <gui_> sup?
[02:02] <kristian_> Can anyone tell me what the deal is on xorg.conf in intrepid Ibex?
[02:02] <mister-tea> the deal?
[02:02] <kristian_> Is it obsolete or still of some use?
[02:02] <draik> How can I get the links within Thunderbird to open with Firefox?
[02:03] <SiVA_> draik: change your default applications
[02:03] <mister-tea> go into thunderbird settings and set it as the default
[02:03] <SiVA_> System settings
[02:03] <draik> SiVA_: I did that already.
[02:04] <draik> mister-tea: How so? I tried to look for that option.
[02:04] <kristian_> I'm asking because I'm fighting an uphill battle trying to make the system use a matrox legacy driver
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[02:04] <gyhu> hi
[02:05] <mister-tea> I would have to log on to my other box to tell you and I'm not there right now but I did it
[02:05] <kristian_> People refer to the xorg.conf file, but changes I make to it all result in low-graphics mode... only xforcevesa work
[02:05] <draik> Ok mister-tea. I will see what I'm overlooking.
[02:05] <kristian_> ...though it also limits the display to 800x600, which is rather annoying
[02:06] <matt> Something is sorta strange. I encoded a dvd to an mp4, yet when I play it...it has checkers on it. So to say..I think it may have something to do with interlacing...but I'm not sure. I used Handbrake to encode. However...if I open a dvd in my drive with either vlc or dragon...same thing. So I'm led to believe it is a codec probably. Any ideas...and will I have to rencode those mp4's after it's fixed?
[02:06] <gui_> maybe its the resolution
[02:06] <mister-tea> draik:  in the settings menu there is an application tab if memory serves
[02:06] <binMonkey> hi, guys.
[02:07] <asobi> i have 7zip installed, why doesn't it extract?
[02:07] <gui_> did u select the file
[02:07] <gui_> ?
[02:07] <kristian_> Also, I've been toying with xrandr, but it constantly complains that it cannot open any displays - this is with and without ?dm running.
[02:08] <asobi> right click then extract fails
[02:09] <draik> mister-tea: No. Nothing about applications from what I can see.
[02:09] <binMonkey> how do i know if i'm using sdl or gtk?  i'm wondering if i can't speed up my video card.
[02:09] <gui_> every one here uses kubuntu?
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[02:09] <gyhu> yes
[02:09] <gyhu> everyone uses kubuntu
[02:10] <faileas> amongst other things ;)
[02:10] <gui_> ok
[02:10] <k0rnz> hello?
[02:10] <gui_> hey
[02:11] <mister-tea> draik: k I'll go look
[02:11] <k0rnz> if i have a 200gb hard drive and i formatted, how much free space should I have usuable?
[02:11] <k0rnz> i am seeing 186.3gb
[02:11] <faileas> oh
[02:11] <faileas> rounding errors
[02:11] <gui_> not rlly
[02:12] <faileas> hard drive manufaters use a 1000 meg gig
[02:12] <gui_> i have a 80gb and it showed as 73
[02:12] <faileas> software folk use a 1024 meg gig
[02:12] <k0rnz> after i reformat my drive again, shouldnt i be seeing 200gb or just 186gb after clean format?
[02:12] <gui_> maybe 190gb
[02:12] <gui_> its normal
[02:13] <faileas> k0rnz: its normal
[02:13] <faileas> rounding errors, like i said ;)
[02:13] <k0rnz> so even after fresh reformat, i will never see 200gb again but just lower like 190gb?
[02:14] <k0rnz> i thought after i reformat drive it will again show 200gb raw unformatted space available
[02:14] <gui_> maybe
[02:14] <k0rnz> but the weird thing is it is only showing 186gb free available space to format
[02:14] <gui_> it never rlly shows its actual size
[02:15] <k0rnz> ok thanks
[02:15] <gui_> np
[02:19] <mister-tea> draik: I just looked and my last update changed the way the preferences look my best advice is to try system settings and set default applications and set FF as the default browser then make sure that thunderbird preferences are set to make tbird the default email client
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[02:20] <draik> mister-tea: They are setup as defaults
[02:20] <mister-tea> the mozilla website then?
[02:21] <draik> Let me check.
[02:24] <Guest91828> Does anyone know anything about PSCX2?
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[02:26] <vivek> hi\
[02:28] <vivek> does anyone know to change the theme and skins for kopete?
[02:29] <vivek> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43243
[02:29] <bdizzle> someone remind how to install a .bin file, ie, Google Earth?
[02:29] <vivek> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=43243
[02:30] <GregV4> Anyone know why the stop key on my G15 is being recognized by Amarok as AudioLowerVOlume?
[02:30] <Simeon_H> if I compile and install a new version of glibc will it screw everything up?
[02:30] <mister-tea> vivek:  settings> configure> appearance
[02:31] <Adola> Anyone know about Now playing plugin and Amarok 2?
[02:35] <draik> mister-tea: I found it. Here is a link if you're curious... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502651
[02:36] <mister-tea> draik: thanks
[02:37] <draik> mister-tea: Now I have to post the resolution in the bug report I made a long time ago
[02:37] <Simeon_H> come on this could end badly
[02:37] <stdin> Simeon_H: depends on the version you install, but generally: yes
[02:38] <stdin> best not to mess with glibc unless you're absolutely sure it'l ABI compatible with what all your apps were compiled against
[02:38] <stdin> s/it'l/it's/
[02:42] <Simeon_H> well I'm still on hardy
[02:42] <Simeon_H> so it might give me a reason to upgrade
[02:42] <Simeon_H> :P
[02:42] <Simeon_H> err s/hardy/feisty
[02:43] <stdin> feisty? that's not even supported any more
[02:43] <Simeon_H> I know
[02:43] <Simeon_H> but I'm too lazy to update it
[02:44] <Simeon_H> so this might "motivate" me to
[02:44] <Simeon_H> I still have Hoary CD's lying around
[02:44] <Simeon_H> I ordered like 40 of them
[02:44] <Simeon_H> ubuntu Hoary that is
[02:44] <Simeon_H> not Kubuntu
[02:45] <stdin> well, they didn't offer Kubuntu back then, so I guessed you meant Ubuntu ;)
[02:45] <faileas> Simeon_H: coasters ;p
[02:46] <stdin> coasters for human beings
[02:46] <Adola> AHAHAHAHAH
[02:53] <Zehava> can I use kde 3.2-3.5 styles on kde 4.0?
[02:54] <JontheEchidna> Zehava: nope
[02:55] <Zehava> okay thanks
[02:56] <mroc> i'm having webcam trouble with kopete - everything works fine until trying to accept/view a webcam, then it just says no image received.
[02:59] <Zehava> What's the command to search in apt?
[02:59] <hads> aptitude search foobar
[02:59] <genii> Zehava: apt-cache search <name>
[02:59] <Zehava> thanks
[02:59] <genii> Zehava: np
[02:59] <mroc> any ideas on the webcam kopete thing?  it just says no image received.
[03:11] <Zehava> how do I open control center?
[03:13] <szrhawaii> my knetwork isnt accessing to a secured access point after pluging in the password and everything the wireless shuts down and doesnt read the access point
[03:13] <szrhawaii> can anyone help
[03:17] <ephoenix> hey everyone
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[03:20] <KazieKama> ok, so since I cannot find a 64 bit version of flash from adobe, are there any other alternatives for using flash on Kubuntu 8.10 AMD64?
[03:20] <Adola> Hello!
[03:21] <KazieKama> hola!
[03:22] <Adola> Ummm.
[03:22] <Adola> Umm, you do'nt need a 64 bit version...I believe....The regular SHOULD work.
[03:26] <KazieKama> Right on, ty, Ill give it a shot
[03:27] <Adola> Yes!
[03:28] <KazieKama> Oh, another question, any suggestions for a good linux irc client besides Konversation?
[03:30] <Adola> AHAHAH, That's what I'm oN!  I just started IRC like a week ago!
[03:30] <Adola> Ummmm....Google it?  Google:IRC clients Kubuntu
[03:30] <Adola> I know there is a HUGE list of them!
[03:30] <faileas> KazieKama: kvirc isn't bad, or xchat
[03:31] <KazieKama> Ill look those up, ty
[03:31] <Adola> No problem!
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[03:52] <SiVA_> hey
[03:52] <Adola> Hello!
[03:54] <NeoMIRV> I have found a fix for the ATI overlay flicker.
[03:55] <astromme> NeoMIRV: lets hear it
[03:56] <Adola> OMG
[03:56] <Adola> ATI CARD FLICKER?
[03:56] <Adola> MINE DOES THAT.
[03:56] <NeoMIRV> Option "AccelMethod" "exa"
[03:56] <NeoMIRV> Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
[03:56] <NeoMIRV> Option "ExaNoComposite" "true"
[03:56] <NeoMIRV>  and in /etc/environment INTEL_BATCH="1"
[03:56] <Adola> It flickers when using soemthing that uses OpenGL and I do soemthing OUTSIDE of the box.
[03:57] <NeoMIRV> Yeah I couldn't play anything using an Overlay would flicker really bad..
[03:57] <Adola> SO, THAT HAPPENS TO YOU TOO?
[03:57] <NeoMIRV> uh, not anymore
[03:57] <faileas> Adola: dude. caps
[03:58] <astromme> I'm wondering what else that breaks. (if anything, but those options don't look too nice)
[03:58] <astromme> but good job =). That's definitely an issue
[03:58] <Adola> (It used to do it like no other on Hardy..But, with Intrepid. It only does it when I go do something else besdies what game or 3d thing I'm using)
[03:58] <matt____> How can i kill an xserver? I need runtime 3, sudo I sudo init 3, but How can i kill x?
[03:58] <Adola> I have an ATI radeon x300
[03:58] <NeoMIRV> They don't break anything .. supposedly just the AccelMethod EXA is supposed to work but I required the other too options too
[03:58] <astromme> I can't try it on my box atm.... because fglrx broke to the point where I swapped it out for my older nvidia card.
[03:58] <NeoMIRV> CTRL-BACKSPACE restarts xserver
[04:00] <matt____> NeoMIRV: CTRL-BACKSPACE restarts xserver, I need to kill it completely.
[04:00] <NeoMIRV> not sure exactly what the INTEL_BATCH="!" does but it doubles my framerates
[04:00] <NeoMIRV> ps aux |grep /usr/bin/X
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[04:02] <matt____> How can I kill X?
[04:02] <NeoMIRV> ps aux |grep /usr/bin/X  then kill -9 the first set of numbers from the left (which is the pid)
[04:04] <matt____> NeoMIRV: Says I don't have a grep
[04:04] <NeoMIRV> uhh
[04:04] <NeoMIRV> sudo apt-get install grep
[04:05] <cprgmswr2> KDE 4.2 screwed up my system
[04:05] <matt____> NeoMIRV: Well..I did that...I have a grep..but it's just an unrecognized command.
[04:05] <matt____> NeoMIRV: wait!
[04:05] <matt____> that's not a !, it's an |
[04:06] <NeoMIRV> yeah .. piping character
[04:06] <cprgmswr2> what program do I need for kde to reconize alt+f2
[04:06] <NeoMIRV> I think its krunner no?
[04:06] <cprgmswr2> nope
[04:06] <cprgmswr2> alt-tab doesn't work aslo
[04:07] <NeoMIRV> yeah I heard 4.2 was really unstable thus far
[04:07] <cprgmswr2> I don't think kubuntu shoudl have released kde 4.2
[04:07] <cprgmswr2> its really bad
[04:08] <NeoMIRV> shoot is that what those 85 updates waiting to be installed are?
[04:08] <matt____> NeoMIRV: NeoMIRV Got it. Now I need a kernel source. kernel-source doesn't work.
[04:08] <cprgmswr2> ROFL
[04:08] <NeoMIRV> :)
[04:08] <cprgmswr2> if it says kde 4.1.80
[04:09] <NeoMIRV> I know it was mostly kde stuff.. I had restarted X so the notifier is gone
[04:09] <matt____> Nvidia wants me to install kernel source..but "kernel-source" is unavailible.
[04:10] <cprgmswr2> I could not type into a window in kde 4.2
[04:10] <NeoMIRV> apt-cache search kernel-source
[04:12] <cprgmswr2> this sucks... I may need to re-install kubuntu
[04:13] <macjason0607> hey all .. kde 4 keeps crashing when i empty the trash .. does it do this because the trash is on the pane l?
[04:13] <bobesponja> cprgmswr2: they didn't release, they just put up some beta packages for those willing to test them
[04:13] <cprgmswr2> bobesponja: I release that, but they shouldn't have released a completely unusuable desktop
[04:13] <cprgmswr2> how do you even test something like that
[04:14] <NeoMIRV> where'd they release them to?
[04:14] <cprgmswr2> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[04:14] <cprgmswr2> Be warned, kde 4.2 is not ready for even testing
[04:14] <jlc> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[04:15] <jlc> i've been running this and its been pretty stable
[04:15] <cprgmswr2> What?!?
[04:15] <cprgmswr2> Thats not the link thats posted online
[04:15] <jlc> yeah, its under ppa
[04:15] <macjason0607> anyone ?
[04:15] <jlc> there is also nightly builds
[04:15] <rishad> hi is there a way to reset the color scheme in kde 4.1 through a config file?
[04:16] <jlc> cprgmswr2: i'm a gnome user just playing around, so keep that in mind
[04:16] <jlc> ;)
[04:16] <cprgmswr2> My system is screwed after installing kde4.2
[04:16] <rishad> anyone?
[04:16] <cprgmswr2> I can't stand gnome
[04:16] <jlc> i've used it for almost 10 years so... I got used to it
[04:16] <cprgmswr2> If they work the bugs out, kde 4.2 looks very promising
[04:16] <jlc> flirting with kde and e17
[04:16] <NeoMIRV> cprgmswr2: Yes there are several forum posts that warn that the kde 4.2 packages are not ready for even alpha testing yet..
[04:17] <macjason0607> how do i disable dolphin
[04:17] <cprgmswr2> I think it should be listed on the main page of kubuntu
[04:17] <Adola> I've not even gotten to see 4.2 (Dial-up)
[04:17] <cprgmswr2> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[04:17] <macjason0607> cprgmswr2, that for me ?
[04:17] <rishad> could someone please help? system settings is crashing because of this color scheme!!
[04:17] <Adola> Do you have problems with Dolphin's slow crap?
[04:17] <cprgmswr2> Adola: ROFL
[04:17] <Adola> How it won't select more than like 4 files without lagging?
[04:17] <jlc> cprgmswr2: yeah, i tried that and couldn't get it working but I had the ppa one working so i went back
[04:17] <NeoMIRV> well thats what you risk when installing from *-experimental :)
[04:17] <macjason0607> Adola, .. everytime i empty the trash it crashes
[04:18] <cprgmswr2> I relize that its experimental, but it didn't say completely unusable
[04:18] <jlc> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive
[04:19] <cprgmswr2> I really thought that was just left over from when the packages were being developed
[04:19] <cprgmswr2> the page indicates that its of beta quality
[04:19] <Adola> Umm.
[04:19] <Adola> You can make Konqueorororor open stuff instead.
[04:19] <Adola> It's because.
[04:20] <Adola> If you will just change
[04:20] <Adola> From openGL to xrender.
[04:20] <Adola> Under desktop reder thing.
[04:20] <Adola> It won't lag anymore..But, you lose those fun effects.
[04:20] <rishad> anyone please?
[04:21] <jlc> cprgmswr2: oh wait
[04:21] <jlc> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-updates-testing/+archive
[04:21] <cprgmswr2> huh?
[04:22] <trav> Trying to connect to a Windows PTPP VPN.  Download pppdaemon, tried using kvpnc without much luck.  Anyone have any experiences with this?
[04:22] <jlc> that is what i'm running
[04:22] <trav> Kubuntu 8.10
[04:22] <jlc> updates-testing
[04:22] <jlc> it has 4.1.80
[04:23] <trav> you talking to me, jlc?
[04:23] <jlc> nope
[04:23] <jlc> cprgmswr2:
[04:23] <trav> damnit
[04:23] <jlc> sorry
[04:23] <jlc> cprgmswr2: i've also played around with nightly that has worked ok
[04:23] <trav> frustrating
[04:23] <jlc> https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive
[04:24] <szrhawaii> need help with knetwork
[04:24] <szrhawaii> my access point keeps going down when i try to get into the wirless
[04:24] <cprgmswr2> damn now apt-get is all messed up again
[04:25] <cprgmswr2> is there a way to remove all packages
[04:25] <szrhawaii> everyone else is good on the router then i jump on and everyone gets kicked off and i never get on
[04:25] <NeoMIRV> damn how is it that the 'tiled' window selection is brought up ? (Kind of like alt+tab)
[04:25] <szrhawaii> it gets stuck in the configuring stage then boots everyone of the router
[04:25] <szrhawaii> whats wrong with my system thats making it not work
[04:26] <jlc> cprgmswr2: sudo apt-get remove kde*
[04:26] <jlc> ;)
[04:26] <szrhawaii> astromme you there
[04:26] <cprgmswr2> jlc: I get a big fat list of dependency issues
[04:26] <NeoMIRV> jlc:  That's what I'd do :)
[04:26] <jlc> dpkg --configure -a
[04:26] <jlc> apt-get -f install
[04:27] <jlc> depends on what the problem is
[04:27] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to fix problems in knetwork
[04:27] <jlc> install something like gnome lxde xfce fluxbox before you do that :P
[04:27] <NeoMIRV> szrhawaii: Nope I don't use it.
[04:27] <jlc> szrhawaii: i'm a gnomer that is just trying out kde4 so i'm not ignoring you on purpose
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[04:28] <cprgmswr2> jlc: http://rafb.net/p/unJV3J26.html
[04:28] <NeoMIRV> I hate knetworkmanager
[04:28] <szrhawaii> have you ever ran across a similar problem on any other wireless program where you get kicked out from a router and it boots everyone off by shutting down the access point when i log into it
[04:28] <jlc> cprgmswr2: what is in your sources.list, do you have more than one kde* repo in there?
[04:29] <NeoMIRV> I dunno I have all kind of problems with any linksys router that uses the LinkSys firmware
[04:29] <tkstka> does anyone play nexuiz
[04:29] <tkstka> ?
[04:29] <tkstka> here
[04:30] <cprgmswr2> http://rafb.net/p/OHRvub88.html
[04:30] <cprgmswr2> jlc: there is my sources.list file
[04:30] <astromme> szrhawaii: yes
[04:31] <cprgmswr2> LOL this is from gutsy
[04:31] <jlc> cprgmswr2: remove the extra kde from your sources.list, or comment it out, apt-get update ; dpkg --configure -a ; apt-get autoremove
[04:32] <alejandrock> any girl in this room?
[04:32] <alejandrock> any girl in this room?
[04:32] <jlc> kubuntu-experimental and kubuntu-experimental
[04:32] <Adola> AHAHA, alejandrock YOU WERE JUST TALKING TO ME
[04:32] <jlc> cprgmswr2: that should bring you down to default, would be my thought at least
[04:32] <Adola> YOU THOUGHT I was a girl AAHAHAHHAHAHA
[04:32] <jlc> errr
[04:33] <alejandrock> any girl in this room?
[04:33] <tkstka> no
[04:33] <tkstka> there are no girls in the interwebs
[04:33] <tkstka> ...
[04:33] <Adola> AHAHHAAAHAH It's called "whois"  And, what girl would be in thsi room?  HOnestly?
[04:33] <jlc> not experimental... you have members-kde4 and updates-testing, comment those out and try fixing
[04:33] <alejandrock> any girl in this room?
[04:33] <jlc> my cp/paste doesn't work right in kde like gnome does...
[04:33] <alejandrock> I love slackware
[04:33] <Adola> ~Notices the room talk...Yup, no girl~
[04:34] <tkstka> there are no girls in interwebs it's a myth
[04:34] <alejandrock> any healp about ubuntu
[04:34] <alejandrock> ?
[04:34] <tkstka> probe me wrong
[04:34] <tkstka> ve
[04:34] <reijimaigo> ei
[04:34] <reijimaigo> help
[04:35] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:35] <cprgmswr2> jlc: I commented out members0kde4
[04:35] <alejandrock_> any girl in this room?
[04:35] <alejandrock_> any girl in this room?
[04:35] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:35] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:35] <astromme> alejandrock: This channel is for kubuntu support.
[04:35] <alejandrock_> ubuntu ultimate edition gamer is great
[04:35] <alejandrock_> the besth
[04:36] <alejandrock_> distributino de debian
[04:36] <jlc> alejandrock been drinking to much
[04:36] <alejandrock_> jajaja ji
[04:36] <alejandrock_> c
[04:36] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:36] <alejandrock_> jil where are you from
[04:36] <alejandrock_> ?
[04:36] <astromme> jlc: That may be =P. but it doesn't mean he has rights to spam the channel
[04:36] <jlc> cprgmswr2: after commenting out, apt-get update, apt-get autoremove see how much it will remove and if its the kde4.2 stuff
[04:37] <jlc> astromme: for real, !mute alejandrock_
[04:37] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:37] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:37] <cprgmswr2> jlc: its not working
[04:37] <tkstka> waht was the name of the driver downloader?
[04:37] <jlc> cprgmswr2: what output do you get?
[04:37] <tkstka> so I can download the latest ati drivers
[04:37] <jlc> cprgmswr2: dpkg --configure -a
[04:37] <reijimaigo> how to update this kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and the kde version
[04:38] <jlc> reijimaigo: you upgrade the whole distro, not just parts, it isn't possible afaik
[04:38] <alejandrock> rejimaigo sudo apt-get update
[04:38] <alejandrock> rejimaigo sudo apt-get updgrade
[04:39] <reijimaigo> ok thx i try that code
[04:39] <alejandrock> ok
[04:39] <jlc> reijimaigo: that will upgrade the whole thing
[04:39] <jlc> kde and all
[04:39] <alejandrock> any healp about ubuntu
[04:39] <alejandrock> what it is your problem
[04:39] <reijimaigo> jilc thats ok
[04:39] <alejandrock> ?
[04:39] <cprgmswr2> http://rafb.net/p/nMfeez30.html
[04:40] <reijimaigo> jilc : thats ok
[04:40] <cprgmswr2> there is the output
[04:40] <alejandrock> nothing
[04:40] <jlc> cprgmswr2: what command did you run
[04:40] <alejandrock> girls?
[04:40] <cprgmswr2> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:41] <jlc> cprgmswr2: what does sudo apt-get upgrade do now?
[04:41] <reijimaigo> hang it up..!!!!
[04:41] <cprgmswr2> give me dependency issues
[04:42] <cprgmswr2> kde 4.2 screws up my system
[04:42] <jlc> cprgmswr2: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:42] <alejandrock_> girl?
[04:42] <cprgmswr2> same thing
[04:42] <alejandrock_> programing the bash
[04:42] <alejandrock_> scripst
[04:42] <jlc> cprgmswr2: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:42] <cprgmswr2> same thing
[04:43] <alejandrock_> good bye bad room
[04:43] <alejandrock_> bye news
[04:43] <alejandrock_> usuries
[04:44] <jlc> cprgmswr2: remove the other kde4 from your sourcelist too
[04:44] <cprgmswr2> I removed all kde4 sources
[04:44] <jlc> apt-get update
[04:44] <cprgmswr2> still the same thing
[04:44] <jlc> hurm
[04:45] <reijimaigo> sudo] password for reijimaigo:
[04:45] <reijimaigo> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release.gpg
[04:45] <reijimaigo> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/main Translation-en_US
[04:45] <reijimaigo> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[04:45] <reijimaigo> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg
[04:45] <jlc> cprgmswr2: out of ideas and must sleep soon
[04:46] <jlc> :)
[04:46] <cprgmswr2> figures
[04:46] <reijimaigo> how to upgrade my kde version to a newest version????
[04:46] <reijimaigo> how to upgrade my kde version to a newest version????
[04:46] <macjason0607> dam
[04:46] <cprgmswr2> kde 4.2 screwd my system
[04:46] <macjason0607> i can't right click in quick access
[04:46] <macjason0607> it kills the panel
[04:46] <jlc> first time in this channel and its full of flooders
[04:46] <macjason0607> i already removed dolphin
[04:46] <macjason0607> any ideas ?
[04:46] <jlc> ciao
[04:47] <reijimaigo> thats all
[04:47] <reijimaigo> ??
[04:49] <reijimaigo> but how to upgrade my kde 3 to kde4???
[04:49] <cprgmswr2> reijimaigo: edit your source.list and replace hardy with intrepid
[04:49] <cprgmswr2> reijimaigo: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace hardy with intrepid
[04:50] <cprgmswr2> then do a sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <cprgmswr2> and a sudo apt-get install
[04:51] <reijimaigo> not working
[04:52] <reijimaigo> hwaaaaaa
[04:52] <reijimaigo> ill download it.....
[04:52] <reijimaigo> in iso file
[04:52] <reijimaigo> from kubunto site
[04:53] <reijimaigo> kubuntu
[04:55] <macjason0607> guys
[04:55] <macjason0607> if i download kubuntu is it just as easy as installing ubuntu ?
[04:57] <cprgmswr2> yes
[04:57] <macjason0607> thanks
[04:57] <astromme> reijimaigo: look at the official documentation on the http://kubuntu.org site
[04:57] <macjason0607> im going to wipe ubuntu .. and do a fresh install of kubuntu
[04:57] <astromme> probably a good idea
[04:57] <macjason0607> ugh .. then i have to install all the libdvdccs stuff
[04:57] <macjason0607> argh
[04:58] <reijimaigo> kabuto????
[04:58] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to troubleshoot knetwork
[04:58] <astromme> macjason0607:  Eh, with medibuntu it's dead simple
[04:58] <astromme> szrhawaii:  What's your issue?
[04:58] <szrhawaii> hey astromme your here
[04:58] <astromme> yep
[04:59] <szrhawaii> my access point keeps going down when i try to access it
[04:59] <astromme> for a little while anyways, I'm getting sleepy
[04:59] <szrhawaii> but the other comps work fine just when mine comes on it boots the access point down
[04:59] <szrhawaii> well  i will try not to keep you up to late
[05:00] <astromme> Has this happened before? (in another windows/linux install?)
[05:00] <szrhawaii> nope
[05:00] <szrhawaii> only this access oint
[05:00] <szrhawaii> point
[05:00] <szrhawaii> all the other places i have been work fine
[05:00] <KazieKama> Another question, I have Kubuntu installed on a small aprtition right now to see if I can get eberything working that I need to before I make the full switch from XP, how do I tell dolphin where to mount the windows drives that it finds instead of defaulting to /media/*?
[05:01] <astromme> It sounds sort of like a bad wifi card <-> router combo. Sometimes they don't work together so well (was more common 7 years ago with the start of B wifi)
[05:01] <astromme> KazieKama: You would have to edit fstab or use kpartitioneditor
[05:01] <szrhawaii> so how do i configure it is it cause my wifi is conflicting with my wireless
[05:01] <astromme> szrhawaii: Sometimes incorrect settings can mess with a router as well
[05:01] <KazieKama> astromme: tyty
[05:02] <szrhawaii> well it seems im the only one who cant get on this one but it works on all the other ones
[05:02] <astromme> szrhawaii: With kubuntu installs?
[05:02] <szrhawaii> huh
[05:03] <szrhawaii> ?????
[05:03] <js__> anyone know what the magic pill is to get my 1680x1050 display to work with an nvidia card that insists it's only 640x480?
[05:03] <astromme> what OSs do the other users have?
[05:03] <szrhawaii> windows
[05:03] <astromme> js__: nvidia driver or nv? (closed or open driver)
[05:04] <js__> i just switched to the proprietary drive v177
[05:04] <astromme> js__: What happens when you configure it with nvidia-settings
[05:04] <szrhawaii> so you got any clues on what i can do on that
[05:04] <szrhawaii> do you think its a settings issue
[05:05] <js__> nvidia settings doesn't seem to recognize anything above 640x480
[05:05] <astromme> szrhawaii: I don't think its a settings issue. It might be a but in NetworkManager or in the drivers, but it's also likely that it's just an incompatability with the card and the access point. Sorry, I don't have any other ideas
[05:05] <js__> it does allow me to switch it down to 320x240 ;)
[05:05] <astromme> js__: =P that'll help!
[05:06] <astromme> js__: Is the driver set to nvidia in your xorg.conf?
[05:06] <szrhawaii> ok is there anything i can do to troubleshoot it
[05:06] <astromme> If you don't have an xorg.conf, might it be defaulting to nv because nv is still installed?
[05:06] <szrhawaii> to see if it might be that
[05:06] <astromme> szrhawaii: I really have no idea, sorry. If you have windows or another linux install on your laptop, you could see if it happens with that
[05:07] <js__> yes
[05:07] <js__> astromme: sorry, i always forget the irc shorcut to direct my messages to you
[05:07] <szrhawaii> i only have kde on this comp
[05:07] <astromme> js__: does xrandr show the other resolutions?
[05:07] <rodrigo_> opa
[05:08] <js__> xrandr?
[05:08] <astromme> in your console run 'xrandr'
[05:08] <szrhawaii> thanks for your help though astromme always appreciate it
[05:08] <astromme> szrhawaii: Sorry, I'm out of ideas. You could try asking elsewhere (I don't know of any network channels per-se)
[05:08] <astromme> szrhawaii: No problem
[05:08] <js__> no, it shows the same tiny res as the nvidia-settings control panel
[05:09] <astromme> js__: What are you connected to? DVI? VGA? TV-Out?
[05:09] <js__> dvi
[05:09] <astromme> And what card do you have?
[05:09] <js__> this is what i get for 'upgrading' kubuntu
[05:09] <reijimaigo> <<<<< VGA
[05:10] <js__> i forget, let me look
[05:10] <astromme> can you paste the contents of your Xorg.0.conf  (rafb.net/paste or similar)?
[05:11] <astromme> js__: Err, make that Xorg.0.log.. might be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:12] <szrhawaii> is there any other alternatives besides knetwork astromme
[05:12] <astromme> I'm not sure what knetwork is? knetworkmanager? (glob icon/wifi indicator?)
[05:12] <astromme> globe*
[05:13] <js__> http://rafb.net/p/iZOX3946.html
[05:14] <js__> wow it's hard to use at this res ;)
[05:14] <szrhawaii> what do you use
[05:14] <astromme> js__: I don't doubt that =P
[05:15] <astromme> I was wrestling with my ati card earlier today... now I'm on an old nvidia card
[05:15] <astromme> The only thing I could see that might be a problem: (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device DFP-0
[05:16] <astromme> What card do you have?
[05:17] <astromme> Ahh, the log has that... 6200
[05:17] <js__> i can't find the manual, i thought it was a GeForce 6200 but not for sure...this was working just dandy in 8.04
[05:17] <szrhawaii> are you asking me what i have
[05:17] <astromme> szrhawaii: No, was speaking to js__.
[05:17] <szrhawaii> ok
[05:18] <szrhawaii> what about netgo
[05:18] <astromme> js__: You could try asking on #xorg or #nv (might be #nvidia, don't know). I'm out of ideas.
[05:19] <js__> astromme, thanks for trying to help. one day i'll learn my lesson and stick with something that works
[05:20] <szrhawaii> astromme what about netgo or network-config
[05:20] <tin> anyone have weirdness with X setting a virtual screen size to, say, 1600x1200, although the virtual option is commented out in xorg.conf?
[05:20] <tin> didn't do this in 8.04
[05:21] <astromme> szrhawaii: I've had no experience with either. dunno
[05:21] <tin> goes back to normal 1280x1024 (screen and viewport) as soon as i open system settings/ display
[05:23] <cprgmswr2> what package is the kded in
[05:26] <dhuv> hello all, I am working with 8.10 and installed Amarok 1.4. I backedup my .kde directory from Hardy which contains the amarok directory with the collection/ratings/etc. but when I start amarok it seems to totally ignore any of the old settings and the collection information, is there anything special I need to do when using an old profile?
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[05:44] <agustin> hi
[05:45] <agustin> hi
[05:47] <snakeface> how do i change the taskbar?  i would like 2 rows.  there are way to many icons in the tray to fit in one, and also i usually have a lot of windows.
[05:47] <snakeface> it seems it is locked on the bottom of the screen as well?
[05:59] <dhuv> snakeface: if you are using KDE 4.1 then I think you will have to wait for 4.2
[06:43] <Ayabara> I have an xorg.conf that gives me a nice dualscreen on 8.10/Gnome. In KDE 4.2b1 it gave me the same desktop on both displays, and I have no idea how/where to change this. Help?
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[06:55] <Ayabara> anyone else using kde4.2 and dual screen?
[06:57] <glade88> on doing ktorrent -> settings/view (i dont remember) -> uncheck file menu.. is there a way to get it back?
[06:57] <glade88> this makes the file menu disappear completely ^^^
[06:58] <glade88> purgin config files didn't help
[06:58] <glade88> s/purgin/purging
[07:03] <glade88> nm, solved it
[07:04] <mDemocritus> anyone know of a quick way to put a directory into a zip archive? ark won't let me save as .zip
[07:05] <tkstka> use windows
[07:05] <tkstka> :D
[07:05] <faileas> lol
[07:05] <mDemocritus> don't gimmie that baloney tkstka
[07:05] <tkstka> I probably going to get banned here for talking about windows
[07:05] <tkstka> :D
[07:05] <jussi01> !info zip
[07:05] <ubottu> zip (source: zip): Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32-1 (intrepid), package size 103 kB, installed size 248 kB
[07:06] <faileas> mDemocritus: double check if you have the zip package installed?
[07:06] <mDemocritus> jussi01, faileas: it's installed, yes
[07:06] <jussi01> mDemocritus: man zip
[07:06] <jussi01> ;)
[07:07] <mDemocritus> jussi01: thanks... i'll resist my urge to whine for an example, but i LOVE reading manpages :P
[07:08] <tkstka> whY! WHY cant the programs remember the passwords.. I understand root is different but when I try to log in to fics(freeinternetchessserver) it never remembers it
[07:08] <tkstka> why cant they just do a program that remembers those passwords.. doesnt need much extra coding
[07:08] <tkstka> I would assume
[07:09] <mDemocritus> tkstka: code the kde wallet support into it :)
[07:09] <tkstka> I tried to use it once but it was too complicated for my windows head
[07:09] <tkstka> ...
[07:09] <tkstka> my head gave me bluescreen right when I saw it
[07:09] <tkstka> :c
[07:10] <faileas> tkstka: lol. takes time to get used to linux ;)
[07:10] <mDemocritus> jussi01: zip will make the regular zip file that my technologically broken girlfriend can unzip with vista, right? theoretically, at least
[07:10] <tkstka> mDemocritus: you have a girlfriend?
[07:10] <tkstka> :D
[07:11] <mDemocritus> tkstka: jerk lol. yes, she's an internet nerd, not a computer nerd
[07:11] <faileas> mDemocritus: dude, you really should get her to install 7zip ;)
[07:11] <tkstka> :c
[07:11] <tkstka> well at least you are getting some
[07:11] <mDemocritus> faileas: baby steps
[07:11] <tkstka> :c
[07:11] <mDemocritus> tkstka: and how!
[07:11] <mDemocritus> enough with the offtopic already heh
[07:11] <tkstka> :D
[07:11] <faileas> mDemocritus: lol. standard on all my boxes ;)
[07:11] <alephtwo> howdy all. Any wireless guru's online?
[07:12] <mDemocritus> faileas: i know, i didn't build the machine for her... we've only been dating a couple months, i'll get to that when i can
[07:13] <faileas> lol
[07:13] <mDemocritus> faileas: i think her ex did it... hence why it has vista... he was apparently a horrible person lol
[07:13] <faileas> my ex runs vista ;p
[07:14] <mDemocritus> i almost ran out the first time i saw it
[07:14] <mDemocritus> and told her if she has a problem on it that takes me longer than an hour to fix, i'm putting xp on it... somehow ;)
[07:14] <faileas> mDemocritus: laptop?
[07:16] <mDemocritus> nah, it's a desktop
[07:17] <faileas> shoudln't be too hard then
[07:18] <tkstka> I wouldnt touch vista with rubber cloves and long hockey stick
[07:18] <faileas> cloves? ;p
[07:18] <tkstka> :c
[07:18]  * faileas has a 2K and a kubuntu box in front of him
[07:24] <tkstka> OK!
[07:24] <tkstka> first to help me will get internet cookie
[07:24] <tkstka> how do I work with the Kwallet
[07:24] <tkstka> :)
[07:25] <szrhawaii> what are you trying to do in kwallet
[07:25] <tkstka> add login for a program
[07:26] <tkstka> so I can play chess
[07:26] <tkstka> :)
[07:26] <szrhawaii> you have to go to kcontrol then privacy then kwallet
[07:27] <tkstka> kcontrol?
[07:27] <tkstka> you mean console
[07:27] <szrhawaii> kcontrol
[07:27] <tkstka> is that some program nobody told me aobut
[07:27] <szrhawaii> its different
[07:27] <tkstka> :c
[07:27] <tkstka> so apt-get intall kcontrol?
[07:27] <szrhawaii> you can type in kcontrol in console
[07:27] <szrhawaii> no
[07:27] <tkstka> or is it automaticly in kd4
[07:27] <szrhawaii> its already installed
[07:28] <tkstka> lI have to disapoint you
[07:28] <szrhawaii> just kcontrol
[07:28] <tkstka> but it's not
[07:28] <tkstka> :C
[07:28] <szrhawaii> what
[07:28] <szrhawaii> wow
[07:28] <tkstka> :o
[07:28] <szrhawaii> that sucks
[07:28] <szrhawaii> you have kde 4
[07:28] <tkstka> tkstka@transylvanianhunger:~$ kcontrol
[07:28] <tkstka> bash: kcontrol: command not found
[07:29] <szrhawaii> do you have kde 4
[07:29] <tkstka> yes
[07:29] <szrhawaii> go into your kmenu
[07:29] <szrhawaii> its in there
[07:29] <tkstka> in what section?
[07:29] <szrhawaii> its under a setting called privacy
[07:29] <klobster> anyone ever try setting up hdmi sound on an hp m9150f?
[07:29] <szrhawaii> settings i think
[07:30] <tkstka> well it's not under settings
[07:30] <tkstka> :C
[07:30] <szrhawaii> hold on a sec
[07:34] <mDemocritus> gnight, yall
[07:34] <szrhawaii> hey tkstka is there a icon on the side of kwallet
[07:35] <tkstka> so what kind of icon
[07:35] <tkstka> ?
[07:35] <tkstka> and where exactly
[07:35] <szrhawaii> like a wallet looking one
[07:35] <szrhawaii> it might be in your system tray if you have it up
[07:36] <tkstka> you mean the one I login
[07:36] <tkstka> ?
[07:36] <szrhawaii> no
[07:36] <tkstka> so not that wallet
[07:36] <tkstka> :C
[07:36] <szrhawaii> try terminal kwalletmanager
[07:37] <tkstka> Ya I have ti here
[07:37] <tkstka> it
[07:37] <szrhawaii> so now you see it
[07:42] <gnumdk> hello
[07:42] <gnumdk> i'm looking for a way to disable tooltips in apps with kde 4.2 (option is missing)
[07:43] <szrhawaii> not sure\
[07:46] <tkstka> http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jeeeeeeerl6.jpg
[07:46] <tkstka> there
[07:46] <tkstka> that's how it looks
[07:48] <tkstka> szrhawaii:
[07:49] <szrhawaii> ok can you figure the configuring on it
[07:50] <tkstka> no
[07:50] <tkstka> that's the problem
[07:50] <tkstka> :c
[07:50] <tkstka> I dont know how to set up passwords for programs like knight
[07:51] <szrhawaii> try settings configure
[07:53] <szrhawaii> usually kwallet should automatically ask you if you want to store it in there when you have to save passwords
[07:58] <tkstka> szrhawaii: so this works like copypaste
[07:58] <tkstka> :o
[07:58] <tkstka> I select the password from the wallet and then paste it
[07:59] <szrhawaii> yeah basically like that
[07:59] <tkstka> ...
[07:59] <tkstka> :C
[07:59] <alish> :F
[07:59] <alish> :D
[07:59] <tkstka> shit that's so complicated
[07:59] <szrhawaii> nah
[08:00] <tkstka> everytime I want something done I have to take a wallet and take the password...
[08:00] <szrhawaii> set the settings to ask to save any password then you dont have to manually put them in
[08:00] <tkstka> so can I make the wallet open in startup
[08:00] <szrhawaii> yeah
[08:00] <tkstka> good
[08:00] <szrhawaii> settings configure
[08:00] <tkstka> progress
[08:00] <tkstka> ?
[08:01] <szrhawaii> go to the settings tab in the kwallet window
[08:01] <szrhawaii> then it should say configure
[08:01] <szrhawaii> and then change the prefrences to meet your needs
[08:01] <szrhawaii> ok im out
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[08:02] <tkstka> is it that senable kwallet from subsystem
[08:04] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[08:05] <_Groo_> any kubuntu devs online?
[08:05] <tkstka> I havent figured this thing.. Why not make couple of lines more and make the program save the pw...
[08:06] <_Groo_> i tried to activate the msn feature for the new kopete 4.2 beta 1.
[08:06] <_Groo_> so i recreated the kdenetwork from kubuntu-experimental with suport for libmsn 4.0 beta 1
[08:07] <_Groo_> unfortunatelly although cmake did identify the lib and told it was going to be compiled and used, when i activated the new kopete..still no msn account :P
[08:07] <_Groo_> any ideas?
[08:19] <rayne> Hello all.
[08:19] <rayne> I just downloaded Ubuntu for the first time! I'm loving it!
[08:19] <_Groo_> nice to ear that
[08:20] <rayne> How is everyone doing tonight?
[08:20] <_Groo_> well here is already morning :D
[08:20] <rayne> Yes, I'm being bad and staying up all night fiddling with Linux! I can't believe how well this older computer handels it!
[08:21] <rayne> I'm downloading all the upgrades and all the applications that seem relevant to me! It's taking a while but so far it seems worth it.
[08:21] <rayne> I'm off from work tomorrow.
[08:21] <rayne> So I have all night to screw around!
[08:22] <rayne> Not many people talking for as many as there are in here.
[08:22] <tkstka> rayne you will hate it
[08:22] <tkstka> when simple things like saving a password
[08:22] <tkstka> is hard
[08:23] <tkstka> :c
[08:23] <rayne> Oh, why?
[08:23] <_Groo_> tkstka: what are you talkking about?
[08:23] <tkstka> you have to write a novel everytime you want something to work
[08:23] <rayne> So far it seems alright. I'm a little more than a basic computer user. First time running Linux.
[08:23] <_Groo_> tkstka: can you be moe specific then that?
[08:24] <tkstka> and I havent got my graphiccard to work..
[08:24] <rayne> *laughs* Well, that's part of the beauty of it. I think Linux users are a cut above! I mean, it takes brains to run Linux. Anyone can point and click.
[08:24] <tkstka> yes I installed the latest drivers
[08:24] <tkstka> that were stable
[08:24] <rayne> I play World of Warcraft, and I found a way to install on here.
[08:24] <tkstka> but still I have problems watching videos
[08:24] <tkstka> because the video blinks
[08:24] <rayne> Hmm, have you tried downloading the latest version of Flash?
[08:25] <_Groo_> rayne: i play wow also.. just install wine and run it as usual.. works like a charm
[08:25] <tkstka> not in a web
[08:25] <tkstka> ...
[08:25] <tkstka> I mean when I watch Avis
[08:25] <_Groo_> tkstka: whats your video card, ati?
[08:25] <rayne> Wine, huh?
[08:25] <tkstka> x1950
[08:25] <tkstka> wine works
[08:25] <_Groo_> tkstka: figures, the linux proprietary drivers for ati are kinda broken
[08:25] <tkstka> should I use wine to run a chessprogram
[08:25] <tkstka> ,,,
[08:26] <rayne> I'm downloading wine right now.
[08:26] <_Groo_> tkstka: in order for you to see the video WITHOUT blinking and use compiz (the 3d opengl desktop blink), change the output in the video player from xv to x11/xshm
[08:26] <tkstka> So I had to go to friends house to watch dr house
[08:26] <tkstka> _Groo_: :O
[08:26] <rayne> Groo, do you have AIM or anything?
[08:26] <tkstka> you have the same problem?
[08:26] <_Groo_> ati give linux a bad name :( i have one also, but i can use the open source drivers which are MUCH better
[08:26] <rayne> I would like to add you as a friend. You know alot and I want to learn, if that doesn't bother you.
[08:27] <_Groo_> wine works with lots of win32 binaries
[08:27] <_Groo_> for more advanced stuff you can use virtualbox or vmware (even for 3d games)
[08:27] <rayne> Oh, okay.
[08:27] <_Groo_> tkstka: i used to have.. i helped ati devs a lot with those crappy drivers
[08:28] <rayne> I just basically play WoW. ANd mess with computers, lol.
[08:28] <tkstka> ooh
[08:28] <tkstka> so where do I change things
[08:28] <tkstka> ?
[08:28] <_Groo_> rayne: retail?
[08:28] <tkstka> I have vlc
[08:28] <_Groo_> tkstka: which video player are you using?
[08:28] <avatar> hi, there. posted the same message a few seconds ago in #ubuntu where I got the tip to ask over here. I use ubuntu, but konsole as terminal app.
[08:28] <avatar> hi there. after upgrading from 8.04 LTS to 8.10 I noticed three errors. a) gnome does not save sessions anymore (I learned that this is a gnome problem, not ubuntu specific), b) I got massive problems with hanging firefox as soon as flash was loaded (fixed by de-installing flashplugin-nonfree and installing latest flash 10 beta from adobe) and c) - the problem I was unable to fix until now - problems using konsole. I can type some text and hit return ...
[08:28] <tkstka> vlc
[08:28] <tkstka> I have others
[08:28] <avatar> ... - but konsole don't show any output. only after I press another key (return again) I see the output.
[08:28] <_Groo_> tkstka: ok, which ubuntu version?
[08:28] <tkstka> Kubuntu 8.10
[08:28] <avatar> any idea to fix c is appreciated :-)
[08:29] <birnisson> anyone knows if there'll be kde 4.2 beta 2 packages for intrepid?
[08:29] <tkstka> kde4
[08:29] <tkstka> if that helps
[08:29] <_Groo_> tkstka: open up vlc, go to configuration, video..
[08:30] <tkstka> ok
[08:30] <tkstka> here
[08:30] <tkstka> what next
[08:30] <_Groo_> tkstka: in output drop list change from xv to
[08:30] <_Groo_> xvideo extnsion to x11 video extension
[08:30] <_Groo_> open the avi.. should work fine now
[08:31] <_Groo_> birnisson: already in kubuntu.org
[08:31] <tkstka> _Groo_: THANK YOU!!!!!!
[08:31] <rayne> *nod* Groo how long have you been running Linux?
[08:31] <tkstka> IF I WERE A GIRL I HAD YOUR BABY
[08:31] <_Groo_> avatar: i have kubuntu 8.10 and konsole works fine for me.. try going to systemsettings and check which fonts you have.,. aparently theres some problem with that
[08:31] <rayne> lmao
[08:31] <keymone> hi
[08:32] <_Groo_> rayne: im an old timer.. i run linux since 98
[08:32] <keymone> is it possible to resize primary ext3 partition?
[08:32] <tkstka> :O
[08:32] <_Groo_> rayne: and before that, os/2
[08:32] <keymone> without losing data
[08:32] <avatar> _Groo_: thx for the hint. already tried to change font :-/
[08:32] <_Groo_> keymone: yes, there is
[08:32] <_Groo_> avatar: run konsole from inside a konsole and check the output error msgs
[08:33] <keymone> _Groo_: how?
[08:33] <_Groo_> tkstka: youll have to do that for every single video player (all have those options)...
[08:33] <tkstka> ok
[08:33] <avatar> _Groo_: good idea! (sad but true there are no error msgs while the problem persists in the new konsole)
[08:34] <_Groo_> tkstka: technically the x11 output is software only (the blink you  notice is the inability of the ati drivers to speak with the opengl compiz window manager), nividia fixed that for more then a year now
[08:34] <_Groo_> avatar: enhance the verbosity
[08:34] <rayne> brb
[08:35] <tkstka> RAGE!!!
[08:35] <tkstka> why cant ati do it?
[08:35] <tkstka> well there were new drivers
[08:35] <tkstka> out but I tried to install them
[08:35] <avatar> _Groo_: I'm not sure how to do this. konsole --help does not include a verbose switch. I'll ask wise google.
[08:35] <tkstka> but I failed
[08:35] <_Groo_> tkstka: fortunatelly the open source guys are almost completing all card support, so in 9.04 ati should be in good shape again.. i have an old 200m and it works like a charm..
[08:36] <_Groo_> tkstka: dont bother, its a problem with the PROPRIETARY ati drivers.. the open source ones works as advertised for ALL suported chips
[08:36] <tkstka> and lost my graphic OS.. so I went to panic but then I remember that people used linux as shell and to irc.. So I remember irssi and then i got here and someone told me that there was program that made stable drivers downloadble
[08:37] <_Groo_> tkstka: envy?
[08:37] <tkstka> ya
[08:37] <tkstka> if I remember right
[08:37] <tkstka> :)
[08:37] <_Groo_> yeah, it works for nvidia/ati
[08:37] <tkstka> if I had to do all the installing again I wouldnt remmember
[08:37] <tkstka> ;D
[08:38] <tkstka> maybe if I stick long enough with linux I'll start to remember
[08:38] <tkstka> things
[08:38] <_Groo_> tkstka: so ubuntu is not that shitty anympore?
[08:38] <aftertaf> tkstka: write things down.....
[08:38] <tkstka> well now my basic needs are satisfied.. I can watch dr house
[08:38] <rayne> I love ubuntu so far. It's very user friendly.
[08:38] <rayne> I've had a PC since I was 4.
[08:38] <aftertaf> i have a notepad where i scribble useful commands and fixes ;)
[08:38] <_Groo_> rayne: do you have an nvidia btw?
[08:39] <rayne> mmm, House!
[08:39] <tkstka> ya
[08:39] <rayne> Yes.
[08:39] <tkstka> Gregory HOUSE!
[08:39] <tkstka> did you see the last ep
[08:39] <tkstka> was cool
[08:39] <rayne> It seems to be working well
[08:39] <faileas> rayne: 5 in my case. was a XT clone running dos ;)
[08:39] <rayne> No, not yet. I was working.
[08:39] <avatar> _Groo_: at least I found someone with the same bug/behaviour -> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164635 (this is often the first step in finding a solution :-)
[08:39] <_Groo_> aftertaf: try basket, youll never go back
[08:39] <rayne> Ahhh
[08:39] <aftertaf> _Groo_: unless X crashed..... ;)
[08:39] <_Groo_> let me see
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> hi!
[08:40] <tkstka> _Groo_ you know about alot about video cards.. So can I ask do you know anything about a problem with a game I have
[08:40] <tkstka> Nexuiz
[08:40] <smitt> hi
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> do you is there is a program in kubuntu that is like windows movie maker?
[08:40] <tkstka> everytime I try to quit the game the screen frozes
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> do you know*
[08:41] <tkstka> and I have to control alt backspace
[08:41] <tkstka> and login
[08:41] <tkstka> again
[08:41] <tkstka> I dont seem to find a way to fix it
[08:41] <tkstka> I
[08:41] <_Groo_> tkstka: hehehe yes,.
[08:41] <aftertaf> RandyCalifornia: yeah .... kino
[08:42] <aftertaf> !info kino
[08:42] <ubottu> kino (source: kino): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 1.3.0-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 4262 kB, installed size 9484 kB
[08:42] <tkstka> so you know the problem
[08:42] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: yes.. there are a few.. a good one is kdenlive
[08:42] <tkstka> lol
[08:42] <_Groo_> tkstka: yep.. its called ATI
[08:42] <tkstka> :O
[08:42] <tkstka> :c
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> Adept can't find kdenlive
[08:42] <tkstka> so there is no way to fix it
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> I'm going to try kino know....
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> another question:
[08:42] <aftertaf> RandyCalifornia: enable repositories...
[08:43] <aftertaf> !repositories
[08:43] <ubottu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[08:43] <_Groo_> tkstka:nexuiz uses some opengl calls that your card supports but the shitty proprietary drivers dont.. its even in theyr (amd/ati) known bugs
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> Do you know if there is a download manager like IDM for Kubuntu that works with Firefox?
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> Apple PPC Kubuntu :S
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> I already did that :)
[08:43] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: kget + flashgot
[08:44] <tkstka> the game runs smoothly but as you are about to quit the great gaming experience your screen freezes and you RAGEE!!!!
[08:44] <tkstka> :)
[08:44] <aftertaf> kdenlive is in universe
[08:44] <tkstka> _Groo_ do you play nexuiz?
[08:44] <tkstka> :o
[08:44] <_Groo_> tkstka: yep, driver problem.. ill advise you to buy an nvidia card..
[08:44] <tkstka> :o
[08:44] <_Groo_> tkstka: i played with the source a bit
[08:45] <RandyCalifornia> thanks!
[08:45] <aftertaf> so, anyone happy/unhappy with kde 4.2 ?
[08:45]  * aftertaf is lovin' it
[08:45] <tkstka> is there a working version?
[08:45] <tkstka> no beta
[08:45] <tkstka> ?
[08:45] <aftertaf> yep, im on it
[08:45] <RandyCalifornia> :D
[08:46] <aftertaf> beta. but find beta better than 4.1 final ;)
[08:46] <aftertaf> seriously :)
[08:46] <_Groo_> avatar: install yakuake.. and never look back
[08:46] <RandyCalifornia> still using 3.xx here
[08:46] <_Groo_> avatar: yakuake = konsole on steroids
[08:46] <tkstka> aftertaf how do I install the new one? apt-get?
[08:47] <_Groo_> aftertaf: im using it 4.2 beta1.. very promising.. very unstable also... ill leave it alone for newbies.. still he hits gold
[08:47] <_Groo_> till i mean
[08:47] <aftertaf> ahhh. yeah.
[08:47] <aftertaf> true
[08:47] <aftertaf> thoughit did go smooth 4 me
[08:47] <_Groo_> tkstka: dont install kde 4.2 beta 1.. its buggy and unstable.. its a BETA a very early BETA!!
[08:48] <rayne> So, Groo, Linux doesn't have to restart like PC does when it updates, right?
[08:48] <RandyCalifornia> no
[08:48] <tkstka> I knew it
[08:48] <_Groo_> rayne: nope.. only when you update the kernel
[08:48] <RandyCalifornia> never
[08:48] <rayne> Makes sense.
[08:48] <tkstka> aftertaf: tried to trick me
[08:48] <tkstka> ...
[08:48] <aftertaf> yakuake :) F12 to pop and unpop a console... whenever u want it :)
[08:48] <_Groo_> tkstka: like i said.. im using it, but im a developer.. so...
[08:48] <tkstka> at least I have a cool friend like _Groo_ who saved me from the rage cries and bitter tiers
[08:49] <sigma20> but sometimes its better to restart just to be safe
[08:49] <aftertaf> tkstka: sorry :)
[08:49] <rayne> Why is it then that Microsoft products are constantly trying to restart the computer, and Linux does not?
[08:49] <aftertaf> _Groo_: it is nice, though :) 4.2...
[08:49] <tkstka> :)
[08:49] <_Groo_> sigma20: thats a myth.. only restart when you have kernel updates..
[08:49] <aftertaf> rayne: hmmmm....... many leveled answers possible
[08:49] <RandyCalifornia> hmmm......
[08:49] <_Groo_> aftertaf: like i said.. when he hits gold it will rock..
[08:49] <RandyCalifornia> yeah...
[08:49] <aftertaf> yeah 2
[08:50] <_Groo_> brb
[08:50] <RandyCalifornia> so, why an ibook with mac os can't play videos on youtube?
[08:51] <rayne> Well, I work at Best Buy guys and today I saw one of the mini laptops we offer that has linux on it! I was really surprised we carried that and that's what prompted me to download Ubuntu.
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> I have an old pc (500 mhz) and it plays youtube videos without any problem.....
[08:51] <sigma20> really? thought it could
[08:51] <tkstka> does anyone know a guy named gufymike?
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> no
[08:51] <tkstka> just asked
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> Like, I have 512 MB of ram
[08:51] <RandyCalifornia> and 500 mhz
[08:52] <rayne> I think after the DISASTER of Vista, I think MAC and Linux really have a chance to destroy Microsoft.
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> on this Ibook
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> but it can't play youtube videos
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> or even watch a 640x480 avi video
[08:52] <sigma20> rayne: how much do those mini laptops go for in the us?
[08:52] <Name1411> Hello, I tried installing both Ubuntu and Kubuntu , and it will cause my router light to flash like it is in high traffic, yet I am not connected at all.  I did not have this problem with previous versions of Ubuntu or Kubuntu and it never made the router light flash like I had high traffic. And to end confusion I didn't have any downloads going, and was unable to connect to my modem, or any other "local" things along with the internet. I have a Dell Isp
[08:52] <rayne> About 229 USED.
[08:52] <RandyCalifornia> even my lifedrive can handle those videos
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> rayne: maybe...
[08:53] <avatar> _Groo_: I downgraded my nvidia video driver from 177 to 173 - this needs further testing, but it seems that the problem vanished. thanks for your help.
[08:53] <tkstka> _Groo_ can I have higher resolution with ati then 1024x750
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> rayne: But people is still not use to Linux
[08:53] <tkstka> ?
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> there are soo many windows app
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> about anything
[08:53] <rayne> Well, that mini laptop has 4 gigs of harddrive space, but you can buy a larger card for it.
[08:53] <RandyCalifornia> and they are "easier" to find and install
[08:54] <RandyCalifornia> "not like" in Linux
[08:54] <rayne> Well, I see a trend here at my store. Alot of people are buying MACs this year and I've actually seen Linux Ubuntu CD selling!
[08:54] <avatar> _Groo_: will try yakuake now
[08:54] <aftertaf> windows is not linux
[08:54] <RandyCalifornia> you cannot carry an application on a flashdrive and give to a friend to try it in linux
[08:55] <RandyCalifornia> so, when people try linux, they cannot adjust to the change, and go back to Linux
[08:55] <RandyCalifornia> sorry windows
[08:55] <aftertaf> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[08:55] <aftertaf> i kow eople who can adjust to the chaneg....
[08:55] <sigma20> oh does dragon player have a playlist yet guys?
[08:55] <RandyCalifornia> I know people who cannot adjust
[08:55] <aftertaf> and i know people who have keyboards that work :)
[08:56] <RandyCalifornia> I know people that cannot use Zune on Linux
[08:56] <aftertaf> RandyCalifornia: you cant have it on a flashdrive, but you can install linux to a flash drive with the soft installed... ;) or you can type apt-get install [software] then its there....
[08:57] <RandyCalifornia> Have you ever hear of "V8" CD?
[08:57] <RandyCalifornia> sorry, dvd
[08:57] <RandyCalifornia> don't get me wrong, I love linux,
[08:57] <aftertaf> me 2. but you cant force things, or change, on eople.
[08:57] <RandyCalifornia> but people have asked me to change to Windows
[08:58] <rayne> Good link, reading it
[08:58] <RandyCalifornia> 'cause they cannot use Office 2007 portable, or Photoshop Portable, etc
[08:58] <aftertaf> for there to be lasting change it needs to be desired, and to be embraced.
[08:58] <RandyCalifornia> or they cannot play "Halo, World of Warcraft, COD 4, etc"
[08:58] <aftertaf> no, but OO3, Gimp...
[08:59] <aftertaf> and withe Wine, games are being installable.
[08:59] <aftertaf> i guild wars on wine;
[08:59] <aftertaf> this is bcos games are made for windows....
[08:59] <aftertaf> if they were done like IDSoftware can do them, they're all platform.
[08:59] <RandyCalifornia> yeah, I tried to install Quake Wars on Linux,
[09:00] <adilson> e ai pessoal
[09:00] <RandyCalifornia> and I succeeded
[09:00] <aftertaf> rayne: yeah. i do like that link :)
[09:00] <rayne> brb restarting!
[09:00] <RandyCalifornia> but those are the reasons people dont like or even try linux
[09:00] <RandyCalifornia> k
[09:00] <aftertaf> RandyCalifornia: linux isnt for everyone, but it doesnt want to be for everyone either.
[09:00] <RandyCalifornia> true
[09:00] <aftertaf> it wants those who want it
[09:00]  * aftertaf begins levitating :)
[09:01] <RandyCalifornia> haha
[09:01] <RandyCalifornia> :D
[09:01] <RandyCalifornia> I'm a Linux fan
[09:01] <RandyCalifornia> good link :O :O
[09:01] <aftertaf> cool :)
[09:01] <aftertaf> yeah!
[09:01] <_Groo_> fala adilson
[09:01] <aftertaf> i had your same arguments till i read that...
[09:02] <RandyCalifornia> do you know if Chrome is out for Linux?
[09:02] <aftertaf> not yet
[09:02] <aftertaf> :(
[09:02] <RandyCalifornia> :(
[09:02] <shad0w0fsin> does anyone know how to get focus follows mouse working when using Compiz in KDE?
[09:02] <RandyCalifornia> " expecting to find essentially a free, open-source version of Windows."
[09:03] <RandyCalifornia> look for React OS, it's an interesting project
[09:03] <RandyCalifornia> I was able to install Office 2003 and Winamp
[09:03] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: you can use office on linux, just use virtualbox
[09:03] <RandyCalifornia> on Reac OS
[09:03] <RandyCalifornia> sorry, React OS
[09:04] <aftertaf> V8.... including V8, a new JavaScript virtual machine
[09:04] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: not yet.. but why would you want to use chrome, if firefox wipes the floor of (insert browser here)
[09:04] <aftertaf> from google chromium page
[09:04] <RandyCalifornia> just for the fun of it
[09:04] <aftertaf> i find firefox becoming slower and slower. on Zin and nux
[09:04] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: react os is based on os/2.. was anyway.. they shfted gears
[09:05] <tkstka> _Groo_ can I have higher resolution with ati then 1024x750?
[09:05] <_Groo_> aftertaf: well it depends what you are doing to the poor bastard. i have 52 extensions installed and its almost as fast as when i installed it
[09:05] <RandyCalifornia> :'(
[09:05] <_Groo_> tkstka: sure you can
[09:05] <_Groo_> tkstka: laptop?
[09:05] <tkstka> no I have 24 inches
[09:05] <rayne> Back! All updated!
[09:05] <tkstka> widescreen
[09:06] <RandyCalifornia> no, V8 DVD is a dvd that has all the versions of Windows. Since 95 to Vista, it can be use as Live CD
[09:06] <_Groo_> tkstka: did you run the ati configurator?
[09:06] <RandyCalifornia> all if the
[09:06] <RandyCalifornia> all of them*
[09:06] <tkstka> ??
[09:06] <tkstka> is there one
[09:06] <tkstka> :o
[09:06] <_Groo_> yep
[09:06] <RandyCalifornia> hey rayne!
[09:06] <aftertaf> live cd? windoze? only tried bartpe once, got a bluescreen :)
[09:06] <_Groo_> tkstka: should have been installed along the driver
[09:06] <_Groo_> tkstka: did you check the menu?
[09:07] <RandyCalifornia> yes
[09:07] <tkstka> catalyzt control center
[09:07] <RandyCalifornia> 95, 98, Mistake Edition, 2000, XP, Vista
[09:07] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: you can run all kinds of linux out of a pendrive, cd, dvd.. the like.. why on earth would you want to run a window live cd?
[09:07] <_Groo_> tkstka: exactly
[09:07] <tkstka> well it crashes :D:D:D
[09:08] <_Groo_> tkstka: 32 or 64 bits?
[09:08] <RandyCalifornia> just for the fun of it
[09:08] <aftertaf> "It's not just about "Why should I want Linux?". It's also about "Why should Linux want me?""
[09:08] <tkstka> 32 I guess
[09:08] <_Groo_> try running amdcc(tab) from the konsole
[09:08] <_Groo_> or something like that, i remmeber its amd something
[09:08] <aftertaf> _Groo_: about the pendrive install.... do you have a recent, up to date link that guides you through that?
[09:08] <RandyCalifornia> it;s a fun fact
[09:08] <RandyCalifornia> they sell those DVD's on Latin America
[09:08] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:09] <_Groo_> aftertaf: in ubuntu its right there..
[09:09] <rayne> Downloading wine now :)
[09:09] <_Groo_> in kubuntu you have to make some loops
[09:09] <RandyCalifornia> :D
[09:09] <aftertaf> with which CD to install... desktop or alternate?
[09:09] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: im in brasil.. they sell everything here :)
[09:09] <RandyCalifornia> you seem them too??
[09:09] <_Groo_> aftertaf: run the ubuntu live cd.. theres an option (install to pendrive_
[09:10] <aftertaf> but not kubuntu? suckage!! :)
[09:10] <RandyCalifornia> I was waiting for the light to be green
[09:10] <RandyCalifornia> when someone approached me
[09:10] <tkstka> _Groo_: it said cannot connect x server 0:0
[09:10] <RandyCalifornia> and he was selling those
[09:10] <_Groo_> tkstka: run it with your user, not root..
[09:10] <RandyCalifornia> I was like "what the heck" and I borrowed
[09:11] <_Groo_> tkstka: that msg says the root doesnt have clearance to run stuuf within your user X session
[09:11] <rayne> I have a question. My internet seems to be running almost twice as quickly since the change to Linux, is there any explaination for this?
[09:11] <_Groo_> rayne: yes there is
[09:11] <rayne> What is it?
[09:11] <_Groo_> rayne: the tcpip stack in linux kernel is the most advanced in the world
[09:11] <RandyCalifornia> yeah why?
[09:11] <aftertaf> _Groo_: you're busy today :) ..... basically i grab ubuntu 8.10 desktop and i can install to usb., right?
[09:11] <RandyCalifornia> :O :O
[09:11] <rayne> :D
[09:11] <_Groo_> aftertaf: yep
[09:11] <rayne> This is superb!
[09:11] <rayne> TY
[09:12] <RandyCalifornia> heck yeah!!!
[09:12] <aftertaf> hey guys, for the internet thing . . . . . .    try in windows and linux, and compare... www.speedtest.net
[09:12] <aftertaf> _Groo_: fantastic, good news, thx :)
[09:12] <_Groo_> rayne: and also (you can check this fact from MS knowledge site).. vista as a little problem with tcpip and sound
[09:12] <RandyCalifornia> :O lol
[09:12] <RandyCalifornia> I don't like Vista
[09:13] <rayne> Well, I was running Vista, then downgraded to XP, and I've noticed a good change. But this is amazing, I mean, it's literally twice the downloading speed of before.
[09:13] <RandyCalifornia> you mean upgraded ;)
[09:13] <rayne> lol
[09:13] <rayne> Yes, upgraded.
[09:13] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:13] <_Groo_> rayne: basically the moron who developed the vista kernel granted multimedia with too many privileges.. when you do ANY sound, even an hoho from msn for instance, the sound privilege is bigger then the tcpip stack privilege and slows the net down
[09:13] <rayne> I was rather fond of WIndows 2000 Professional, I have a system that I play WoW on and it runs very nicely.
[09:14] <rayne> That sucks, and SOUND is such a big part of the internet. Think of all the downloaded music.
[09:15] <_Groo_> rayne: just for the fun of it, you can search ms site for this bug.. its very funny
[09:15] <RandyCalifornia> :O :O
[09:15] <RandyCalifornia> o wow!!!
[09:16] <rayne> hehe
[09:16] <rayne> Ok
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> cool fact!
[09:16] <aftertaf> i think the best downlaoder tool has to be, without a doubt : wget
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> that's for kubuntu aftertaf?
[09:16] <aftertaf> linux
[09:16] <RandyCalifornia> is that for*
[09:17] <aftertaf> console
[09:17] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[09:17] <aftertaf> has resume function too :)
[09:17] <_Groo_> rayne: and btw the bigger the net pipe the slower vista gets.. this bug was found last year when they started to notice gigabit networks were running at 1/3 of the speed with vista :D
[09:17] <aftertaf> !wget
[09:17] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget
[09:17] <RandyCalifornia> I was an enemy of Konsole...
[09:17] <aftertaf> !info wget
[09:17] <ubottu> wget (source: wget): retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.11.4-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 235 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[09:17] <RandyCalifornia> 'till if save my life
[09:17] <_Groo_> aftertaf: kget
[09:17] <rayne> lol
[09:17] <tin> i just discovered that kde4.1 is perfectly happy with running multiple sessions simultaneously
[09:17] <aftertaf> lol _Groo_  yeah but wget is compatible yakuake :)
[09:17] <rvb> help please, i installed kubuntu using wubi and now the pc wont boot
[09:17] <rayne> I just can't believe how well this computer is working.
[09:18] <tin> i thought i recall having problems getting 3.5 to run multiple sessions
[09:18] <_Groo_> aftertaf: try links and lynx.. two console web browsers
[09:18] <rvb> how can i get the files used in linux (which ran inside windows)
[09:18] <tin> ie: a local login and a remote login through xdmcp
[09:18] <aftertaf> rvb: nothing boots at all?
[09:18] <RandyCalifornia> for the Apple Community: How do I install KDE 4.xx?
[09:18] <rvb> initramfs
[09:18] <rvb> thats what it gives
[09:18] <tin> besides firefox being incapable of having more than one instance, everything seems to be great
[09:19] <lokai> RandyCalifornia: You want to install KDE on a macbook or what?
[09:19] <aftertaf> rvb: not even windows boots now?
[09:19] <rvb> it does but the mouse and keyboard doesnt work
[09:19] <RandyCalifornia> Ibook G3 :(
[09:19] <rayne> Is there a good WYSIWYG editor for Ubuntu?
[09:19] <rvb> aftertaf : only on the login screen
[09:19] <aftertaf> rvb: usb mouse or ps2?
[09:19] <rvb> aftertaf : usb mouse-yes
[09:19] <RandyCalifornia> a good what?
[09:20] <aftertaf> rayne lots.... :)
[09:20] <lokai> RandyCalifornia: You can't do that without some sort of emulation software, as far as I know
[09:20] <aftertaf> rvb: tried unplugging and replugging mouse, changing usb port also?
[09:20] <_Groo_> tin: ?
[09:20] <_Groo_> rayne: there are tons
[09:20] <RandyCalifornia> :O :(
[09:20] <rayne> Which one does everyone recommend? Like one in particular with a link maybe?
[09:20] <rvb> tried- diddnt worked too
[09:20] <_Groo_> rayne: openoffice, koffice, gnome office
[09:20] <ibuffy> anything similar to the 'meda download helper' (easily download videos and images from sites) for konqueror?
[09:20] <lokai> RandyCalifornia: Try #mac
[09:20] <rvb> i just want to get my files which i made inside linux
[09:20] <_Groo_> rayne: you already have openoffice installed by default
[09:21] <rayne> Oh, okay.
[09:21] <ibuffy> konqueror4 recovers from crashes, has decent antivirus, and now it needs this
[09:21] <rayne> ty
[09:21] <aftertaf> rvb: u have a booting wondows but no working devices....., can u go to BIOS at least?
[09:21] <RandyCalifornia> I'll try that
[09:21] <ibuffy> antivirus/adbloc***
[09:21] <rvb> and then?
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[09:21] <RandyCalifornia> So I am using Kget
[09:21] <aftertaf> rayne: for office stuff or web stuff?
[09:21] <aftertaf> rvb: to confirm kb is working before OS loads.
[09:22] <RandyCalifornia> Downloading Californication
[09:22] <rayne> I'd like to make my website. I WAS using front page and dreamweaver.
[09:22] <RandyCalifornia> and I'm downloading at the faboluos speed of....
[09:22] <XVampireX> Hey people anyone tried kde 4.2 yet?
[09:22] <RandyCalifornia> 2345 kb/s
[09:22] <aftertaf> XVampireX: yep, and happy, but beware possible instablity
[09:22] <rayne> So which is the best for web editing? Open Office?
[09:22] <RandyCalifornia> better than firefox! Thanks guys!
[09:22] <aftertaf> rayne: search in synaptic / adept
[09:22] <RandyCalifornia> firefox downloader*
[09:22] <ibuffy> i guess the plugins are called extensions
[09:23] <XVampireX> aftertaf: Actually I'm using it right now, it's pretty good, but there's a little problem I'm having... uhm... qt-gtk engine >_<
[09:24] <rayne> Synaptic?
[09:24] <rayne> ALittle over my head. How do I access that?
[09:24] <XVampireX> aftertaf: Can you get the gtk-qt-engine to work?
[09:25] <aftertaf> with kde 4.2?
[09:25] <_Groo_> rayne: for web editing the best thing is to run dreamweaver inside wine
[09:25] <aftertaf> rayne: adpet, for gnome ;)
[09:25] <rayne> Ok! TY guys
[09:26] <_Groo_> rayne: just pick up your cd and run wine install.exe as you would do for any windows install.. nextnextfinish.. be happy
[09:26] <XVampireX> aftertaf: yeah
[09:26] <rayne> Ok, I've got wine installed and updated.
[09:26] <_Groo_> rayne: also, photoshop 7/8/cs1/cs2 works just fine with wine
[09:26] <_Groo_> rayne: same procedure.. wine install.exe next next finish (happy face)
[09:26] <aftertaf> loool
[09:26] <rayne> Ok.
[09:27] <RandyCalifornia> sweet!
[09:27] <aftertaf> XVampireX: for me its installed... whats the proble u have exactly?
[09:28] <XVampireX> aftertaf: Is there a special package for it that I don't know of? I tried installing the one in ubuntu, it seems to work in kde 4.1 but not in kde 4.2
[09:29] <aftertaf> no idea...
[09:29] <RandyCalifornia> I can't use Kget with Firefox :S
[09:29] <aftertaf> im on 4.2 beta from neon project
[09:29] <_Groo_> XVampireX: qt-gtk should work fine with kde 4.2
[09:29] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: use flashgot extension for firefox.. then activate the kget support
[09:29] <XVampireX> but it doesn't
[09:30] <RandyCalifornia> ok
[09:30] <_Groo_> XVampireX: do this on a console: dpkg -l|grep gtk-qt-engine
[09:30] <_Groo_> does it say: ii  gtk-qt-engine blah blah
[09:31] <XVampireX> ii  gtk-qt-engine                              1:1.1+svn20080816-0ubuntu5           theme engine using Qt 4 for GTK+ 2.x
[09:31] <_Groo_> XVampireX: its instaled
[09:31] <_Groo_> XVampireX: whats the problem you are having?
[09:32] <XVampireX> I can't configure it
[09:32] <_Groo_> XVampireX: its in System Settins -> Appearance
[09:32] <birnisson> _Groo_: great, hadn't noticed, thanks
[09:33] <XVampireX> _Groo_: That's what I thought
[09:33] <RandyCalifornia> firefox died lol
[09:33] <_Groo_> birnisson: what you didnt noticed?
[09:33] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: may he rest in peace
[09:33] <birnisson> heh my answer was quite late :) the 4.2 beta packages
[09:34] <birnisson> on kubuntu.org
[09:34] <_Groo_> birnisson: ah lol :)
[09:34] <RandyCalifornia> lol he's alive!! All thanks to the Dragon Ball
[09:34] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:34] <XVampireX> _Groo_: http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nooptionshr0.png
[09:34] <aftertaf> XVampireX: what do u want to do with gtk qt theme?
[09:35] <XVampireX> change it to use clearlooks
[09:35] <XVampireX> on gtk apps
[09:35] <XVampireX> Right now it doesn't use any theme
[09:36] <rayne> Hey everyone, thanks for all the help you've given me tonight.
[09:36] <aftertaf> i dont have a gtk apps option ;)
[09:36] <XVampireX> What do you mean?
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[09:37] <aftertaf> in system settings, i have no option to specify themes for gtk applications.
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[09:37] <_Groo_> XVampireX: something is broken with your system.. should be there.. im using kde 4.2 beta1 and i have that config option
[09:38] <aftertaf> _Groo_: a GTK option on the left with the other icons?
[09:38] <_Groo_> XVampireX: when you do a apt-get -f install does it runs cleanly?
[09:38] <_Groo_> aftertaf: yep
[09:38] <XVampireX> yeah
[09:38] <aftertaf> i dont have it either... :)
[09:38] <aftertaf> me 2 runs ok
[09:38] <XVampireX> ah wait
[09:39] <XVampireX> I'm using the kde-nightly builds :P
[09:39] <aftertaf> me 2
[09:39] <aftertaf> yeah, we have newer bugs :)
[09:39] <_Groo_> XVampireX: that explains it...
[09:39] <XVampireX> lol
[09:39] <RandyCalifornia> nightly builds? What's that?
[09:39] <aftertaf> !neon
[09:39] <ubottu> The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon
[09:39] <XVampireX> Yeah :D
[09:40] <aftertaf> for those who live dangerously, for no real reason.....
[09:40] <XVampireX> heh
[09:40] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: a fancy way for newbies to break their desktop
[09:40] <aftertaf> lol
[09:40] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:40]  * aftertaf is not a n00b
[09:40] <XVampireX> P.S: KDE 4.2 devs figured how to fix the systray... not really :P
[09:40] <aftertaf> been breaking linux since debian 3.0
[09:41] <_Groo_> a fancy way for newbies AND aftertaf to break their desktops
[09:41] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:41] <aftertaf> looool
[09:41] <aftertaf> yeah
[09:41] <XVampireX> I've been breaking linux since... well ubuntu, one of the first ones... I forgot the codename
[09:41] <XVampireX> 5.04 I think
[09:42] <_Groo_> ive been breaking my head against a keyboard cause of linux since 98
[09:42] <XVampireX> Anyway me thinks that kde 4.2 has got potential
[09:42] <aftertaf> me 2
[09:42] <RandyCalifornia> I've been breaking linux, laptops, hard drives, since last spring
[09:42] <XVampireX> it's a bit faster but also less stable at the moment :D
[09:42] <_Groo_> XVampireX: like i said when i started today.. 4.2 beta1, lots of bugs, unstable.. its a BETA.. gold = best desktop environment ever!
[09:43] <aftertaf> XVampireX: yep. but when plasma crashes it comes back fast and good.
[09:43] <aftertaf> gold?
[09:43] <_Groo_> XVampireX: sometimes :P
[09:43] <XVampireX> Gold = Stable
[09:43] <_Groo_> aftertaf: gold = release material
[09:43] <aftertaf> :) kk
[09:43] <aftertaf> so what was XP, cardboard?
[09:43] <XVampireX> Should have said Diamond
[09:44] <XVampireX> It's more powerful than gold
[09:44] <RandyCalifornia> ??
[09:44] <aftertaf> its set for release in feb, right?
[09:44] <_Groo_> aftertaf: yeah probably..
[09:44] <_Groo_> aftertaf: usually the rcs are very usable
[09:45] <aftertaf> _Groo_: you work on it too?
[09:45] <_Groo_> aftertaf: i contribute for a lot of projects
[09:45] <aftertaf> _Groo_: yeah, beta is better than RC in my experience :)
[09:45] <_Groo_> aftertaf: the otehr way around
[09:45] <aftertaf> _Groo_: col. an honour to type with you :)
[09:45] <_Groo_> aftertaf: thanks but you dont need to exagerate :D
[09:45] <aftertaf> er yeah. got that one backwards :)
[09:46] <aftertaf> yeah but you guys make it happen... so kudos ;)
[09:46] <_Groo_> you ppl should try the new kmail, its a work of art.. and very stable..
[09:46] <XVampireX> Well, who's liking the desktop?
[09:46] <_Groo_> andno, i didnt have anything to do with it :D
[09:46] <aftertaf> lol
[09:47] <XVampireX> The FolderView desktop
[09:47] <_Groo_> just a warning, msn support is broken in kopete..
[09:47] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[09:47] <_Groo_> im trying to fix it.. but to no avail for now
[09:48] <XVampireX> And jabber support in kopete is broken
[09:48] <RandyCalifornia> :s
[09:48] <XVampireX> at least the jabber called Google Talk :D
[09:48] <XVampireX> so no @gmail.com
[09:49] <_Groo_> jabber its working in kopete with kde 4.2 beta 1!
[09:49] <smitt> dask
[09:49] <smitt> here?
[09:49] <RandyCalifornia> ?
[09:49] <RandyCalifornia> oh yeah!!
[09:51] <RandyCalifornia> I forgot, do you know a program that is like Virtual DJ dor kubuntu? I installed one not so long ago, but it did not work
[09:53] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: dont rememver the name
[09:53] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: adept/synaptic are your friends
[09:53] <aftertaf> _Groo_: trying kmail now for gmail account
[09:54] <aftertaf> on disconnected imap
[09:54] <RandyCalifornia> I did that, and I install some that did not have to do with what I was looking for
[09:54] <_Groo_> aftertaf: kmail is the best.. most powerful mail client ive ever seen
[09:55] <_Groo_> RandyCalifornia: thats normal :) you do the same in windows just slower since you dont have a package manager
[09:56] <XVampireX> _Groo_: The process for the pop3s://pop.gmail.com protocol died unexpectedly.
[09:56] <XVampireX> :D
[09:56]  * XVampireX is figuring he hadn't have to rush things :D
[09:56] <_Groo_> try again
[09:56] <aftertaf> u use pop or imap?
[09:57] <_Groo_> from the error appears to be pop3
[09:57] <RandyCalifornia> :)
[09:57] <aftertaf> no i meant you, what do you use that works?
[09:57] <aftertaf> :)
[09:58] <_Groo_> aftertaf: i use pop3
[09:59] <XVampireX> aftertaf: does it work for you?
[09:59] <aftertaf> trying now
[09:59] <aftertaf> its retrieving
[09:59] <XVampireX> Alright, cool
[09:59] <_Groo_> it should.. btw dont forget im using beta 1 and you two are using nightly builds..
[09:59] <XVampireX> I'm about to use beta 1 too!
[09:59] <XVampireX> :D
[10:00] <_Groo_> ehehehe
[10:00]  * XVampireX figures the new adept updater tool is better than the one in gnome
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> XVampireX: i'd just use apt-get
[10:01] <martinjh99> Morning - How do I get more styles for KDE4.1?
[10:01] <XVampireX> plasma styles?
[10:01] <XVampireX> or qt styles? :D
[10:01] <Tecmi> Hi #kubuntu, I have Kubuntu and windows suxpee @ dualboot, how do i set windows on default?
[10:02] <martinjh99> i guess its qt styles as I can get Plasma themes using get new stuff
[10:02] <_Groo_> Tecmi: you edit the grub menu.lst file
[10:02] <XVampireX> There aren't many new qt styles
[10:02] <Tecmi> Is it hard?
[10:02] <vmt> hello all .) I want to do a script which should do a mail with attachment. How can I do this?
[10:02] <XVampireX> You want to make a virus script?
[10:02] <martinjh99> Vampire its what shows up in the style section of the apperance System Settings
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Tecmi: kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:03] <_Groo_> Tecmi: ahh wait.. open system settins, advanced.. theres a grub config there
[10:03] <XVampireX> martinjh99: Yeah, that would be... qt style
[10:03] <XVampireX> martinjh99: www.kde-looks.org
[10:03] <Tecmi> thx people, i try that when i go home, at school now :)
[10:03] <_Groo_> Tecmi: thats it.. easy as pie
[10:03] <XVampireX> martinjh99: There aren't many, the oxygen style is by far the best one at the moment, or skulpture if you like old style
[10:03] <vmt> no, automation
[10:03] <Tecmi> i ask more if i dunno how
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Tecmi: you will see a line specifying default, the boots start at 0 for the first line, then change it to the one you wanna use
[10:04] <martinjh99> Do they need compiling as 3.x ones do?
[10:04] <Tecmi> k.
[10:04] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: save it
[10:04] <XVampireX> martinjh99: Not really you can get debs
[10:04] <_Groo_> Tecmi: just open systemsettings, go to advance, click on grub editor
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: thats all it is, not hard, no need for a silly gui
[10:05] <_Groo_> Tecmi: the first thing you see are the severaloptions for boot, just click on default box on windows and apply... voila
[10:05] <XVampireX> Hmm I'm figuring kde 4.2 will come with jaunty jackalope
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> sloooooooooooow
[10:05] <XVampireX> so I'll probably do a fresh install
[10:05] <martinjh99> Vampire just installed Beta1 - Looks good so far
[10:05] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: trust me! for a newb to mess with grub menu.lst its the same of disarming a grenade blind folded
[10:06] <XVampireX> martinjh99: I went ahead and installed the nightlybuilds, so I'm ahead of you :D
[10:06] <martinjh99> :)
[10:06] <Tecmi> _Groo_ Ok, i'm newbie with linux distros and dont know much yet
[10:06] <martinjh99> Still looks good though - better than 4.1 I guess
[10:06] <_Groo_> Tecmi: just do as i said.. should be without problems
[10:06] <XVampireX> It does look better than 4.1
[10:06] <Tecmi> ok, thx :)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: its a simple file and it was explained pretty throughly
[10:06] <XVampireX> got more of what was promised for the kde 4 lifecycle
[10:06] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: why give im a gun if he just wants to wipe is nose?
[10:07] <XVampireX> interface is more dynamic now
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: that ouldnt achieve the goal
[10:07] <martinjh99> :) Like the old style desktop too
[10:07] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: you never did user support have you? :D
[10:07] <XVampireX> more usable
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: im in here almost daily
[10:07] <martinjh99> Anyways gonna go and play with the styles on kde-look thanks mate
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: and yesy ive done first line
[10:07] <XVampireX> no probs
[10:08] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: well im not arguing with you :) i also agree that command line is faster.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: :D i always use cli
[10:09] <XVampireX> brb
[10:09] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: me too.. but i try to avoid cli for noobs if i can.
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: the one i love most is smb.conf. Once people realise how easy it is to configure they stop using the rubish folder sharing app that kde ships with
[10:10] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: even more if they are female noobs (puns intended) :)
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: I like to educate
[10:10] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: i agree with you entirely..
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: its why you get people whinging when automount doesnt work and they are completly clueless
[10:10] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: lol, true...
[10:11] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: one of my favorites is when a windows noob put a windows cd and wait for the autorun to start installing the prog :D
[10:12] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: out of punishment i usually make him reinsert the cd about 2/3 times before i say.. OH you said WINDOWS cd? AUHEUHAEUHAUEHUAHE
[10:13] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: ahh good old days :D
[10:13] <aftertaf> is there a cmd line to burn an iso file to cd?
[10:13] <aftertaf> i get lazier with the mouse every day
[10:13] <_Groo_> aftertaf: yep
[10:13] <_Groo_> linux = all things and the kitchen sink of cli
[10:13] <XVampireX> Let me tell you people, I've broken my linux install :D
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> aftertaf: you can do everything in gui in cli (except vie flash)
[10:14] <aftertaf> _Groo_: what is the cmd? :D
[10:14] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: wanna do the honors?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> aftertaf: http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/
[10:16] <aftertaf> cdrecord image.iso
[10:16] <aftertaf> ow stupidly simple :)
[10:16] <aftertaf> h
[10:17] <_Groo_> you can mount the iso to a mount point if you want also
[10:17] <_Groo_> its a life saver i do it all the time
[10:18] <aftertaf> yeap... -o loop
[10:18] <smitt> can i use russian interface for kdevelop or it is impossible?
[10:18] <_Groo_> smitt: just install the russian lang package
[10:19] <_Groo_> smitt: the russian KDE lang package
[10:20] <_Groo_> brb
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> !laguagepack
[10:20] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laguagepack
[10:20] <aftertaf> only thing i dont like with mail clients with gmail is the seeing of your own messages all the time too.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> aftertaf: how do you mean?
[10:23] <aftertaf> you get your own replies downloaded into the inbox too.
[10:23] <smitt> groo
[10:23] <smitt> can you tell me apt-get install ... command to install rus pack?
[10:24] <aftertaf> !languagepack
[10:24] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languagepack
[10:24] <manish>  i have lost my sleep button and power manager. How do i get it back
[10:25] <aftertaf> smitt: choose to add russian language in regional options screen. itll do the rest
[10:26] <smitt> after, we talk about kdevelop langpack
[10:26] <smitt> postinstall on kubuntu
[10:27] <aftertaf> ahh ok
[10:28] <Salze> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/558 <- how can I get these errors resolved? Some pakages seem to contain the same files.
[10:29] <damjan_> Hi, I have installed kde 4.2 beta 1 and cannot use weatherstation plasmoid (could not find component: weatherstation). Does anyone else have the same problem? I have kubuntu 8.10.
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> Salze: sudo apt-get remove kjots
[10:30] <aftertaf> Salze: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/package.deb
[10:30] <keymone> how do i enter single user mode?
[10:30] <damjan_> I just tried plasmoid eyes and it also doesn't work...
[10:30] <keymone> init s is broken
[10:32] <_Groo_> Salze: cd to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:33] <_Groo_> Salze: then do dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
[10:33] <_Groo_> Salze: after that do apt-get -f
[10:33] <_Groo_> apt-get -f install
[10:33] <Salze> ActionParsnip1: kdepim needs kjots
[10:33] <_Groo_> and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:35] <IAMIK> Kunbuntu plante à peine au démarrage de l'installation quand ont appuie sur le / du pavé numérique quand on place le mot de passe pour l'utilisateur.
[10:35] <IAMIK> Alors si vous savez critiquer Windows, pourquoi faites vous un O.S qui plante pire que Windows 95 ?
[10:35] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: the error Salze is having happens because of some diferent files across the same installed in kde 4.1 , he needs to force the install of at least 4 debs of kde 4.2
[10:36] <Salze> _Groo_: Der de-aktualisiert da ziemlich viel. *Angstkrieg*
[10:36] <_Groo_> Salze: dont know geramn sorry
[10:36] <_Groo_> german
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> !fr | IAMIK
[10:36] <ubottu> IAMIK: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
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[10:40] <Salze> _Groo_: sorry... he's downgrading quite much right now with the dpgk -i --force... command
[10:41] <_Groo_> Salze: arent you upgrading from kde4.1 to 4.2 beta 1?
[10:41] <Salze> _Groo_: I was, yes. And everything but kdeedu and kdepim installed. Now he's downgrading to 4.1.3 again. :-(
[10:42] <_Groo_> Salze: prob you had the old debs in cache.. he will get to the new ones also.. just wait
[10:42] <Salze> Ok.
[10:42] <_Groo_> Salze: warn me when hes done
[10:43] <Salze> When he's done with the dpkg -i or with the other commands you said I should run afterwards?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> !downgrade | Salze
[10:44] <ubottu> Salze: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:44] <Salze> ActionParsnip1: I did not want to downgrade!
[10:45] <_Groo_> Salze: dont panic :)
[10:45] <Salze> I try. :-)
[10:47] <_Groo_> Salze: still running?
[10:48] <Salze> Yes.
[10:48] <_Groo_> ok
[10:48] <Salze> Currently replacing linux-image.
[10:49] <_Groo_> Salze: you never do a apt-get clean do you?
[10:49] <Salze> *blush* No.
[10:49] <Salze> I have about ten kernels. . .
[10:50] <_Groo_> Salze: well hes gonna install the ten again.. actually hes gonna install evetyhring you have in the cahce.. kde 4.2 included
[10:51] <Salze> He's still downgrading...so I guess it will take a while.
[10:52] <_Groo_> do a du -hc /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:52] <_Groo_> tell me how much he reports
[10:54] <Salze> 671 MB
[10:54] <_Groo_> Salze: yeah, it will take a while :D
[10:56] <Salze> Now some packages from 4.1.8 have appeared.
[10:57] <Salze> Done.
[10:57] <Salze> Hmm...the last part seems to have gone a little to fast for my taste.
[10:57] <Salze> _Groo_: shall I now run the other commands like you said?
[10:57] <_Groo_> Salze: ok now do a apt-get -f install
[10:58] <Salze> Ok.
[10:58] <Salze> Done.
[10:59] <Salze> _Groo_: Can I now do apt-get install kde again to get kdeedu and kdepim?
[10:59] <_Groo_> Salze: yes
[10:59] <Salze> It says it is already the newest version.
[11:00] <Salze> Can I trust it and log out to test it?
[11:02] <_Groo_> Salze: do an dist-upgarde to be sure
[11:02] <_Groo_> then restart x.. should be it
[11:02] <zeltak> hi
[11:03] <Salze> Is it save to use the logout option or would it be better to just kill X?
[11:03] <Salze> He is installing a new kernel.
[11:04] <Salze> 2.6.27.10.13
[11:14] <Salze> _Groo_: I worked!! Thank you very very much! :-)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> !cookie | _Groo_
[11:14] <ubottu> _Groo_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[11:21] <_Groo_> Salze: nie to ear that :)
[11:22] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: can i trade my cookie for a netbook with netubutu? :D
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> denied !!
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> :D
[11:23] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: :D
[11:23] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: how about a job in canonical? :D
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> sure, just apply in the normal way and you will be considered ;)
[11:25] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: i already did :D
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> nice, gl
[11:25] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: are you an kubuntu dev?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> _Groo_: nope just a mid level user
[11:27] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: ah ok.. is this the right channel for kubuntu dev?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> #kubuntu-dev may be the way forward
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> i know theres a #ubuntu-dev
[11:28] <_Groo_> ActionParsnip1: nope, no kubuntu-dev
[11:31] <luca_p> hi all..can somebody help me please?
[11:31] <_Groo_> luca_p: fala luca
[11:32] <Salze> #kubuntu-devel
[11:33] <luca_p> hi _Groo_! I hope to be in the right channel...my problem is this:
[11:33] <luca_p> I'm connected to Internet by an ADSL modem
[11:33] <luca_p> (via wifi or via ethernet does the same problem)
[11:33] <luca_p> and I can't open firefox pages...
[11:34] <luca_p> I mean..
[11:34] <_Groo_> you are using it right now?
[11:34] <luca_p> Google opens, but if I make a research, only 3 or 4 results are shown and the browser continues to work...(throbble)
[11:35] <luca_p> I tried with konqueror and the problems remain..
[11:35] <_Groo_> luca_p: which kubuntu version?
[11:35] <luca_p> intrepid..
[11:35] <luca_p> google pings..
[11:35] <_Groo_> cat you paste your resolv.conf?
[11:36] <luca_p> domain homenet.telecomitalia.it
[11:36] <luca_p> search homenet.telecomitalia.it
[11:36] <_Groo_> just that?
[11:36] <luca_p> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:36] <_Groo_> ah ok
[11:37] <_Groo_> ahh thats the problem.. the nameservers are screwed up
[11:37] <_Groo_> use opendns.
[11:37] <luca_p> ah..ok, In try in real time...
[11:37] <_Groo_> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[11:37] <_Groo_> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[11:37] <_Groo_> just change and browse.. its automatic.. no need to reboot or something
[11:38] <luca_p> ok..should i put 2 times nameserver?
[11:38] <_Groo_> exactly as i pasted.. yes two times
[11:38] <_Groo_> remove the old one
[11:38] <_Groo_> actually remove evetyhing.. leave only the two new nameservers
[11:38] <luca_p> domain and search remains the same?
[11:39] <_Groo_> you can remove those two
[11:42] <_Groo_> luca_p: did it work?
[11:42] <luca_p> yer and no...
[11:42] <luca_p> I mean, now google shows all the results..but i can download nothing...
[11:43] <luca_p> and if i try to open a link..it doen't works..
[11:43] <_Groo_> luca_p: did you tried konqueror also?
[11:44] <luca_p> not after the modify..now i try...
[11:45] <luca_p> same thing...
[11:45] <luca_p> i tried to download something with apt-get...doesn't works..
[11:45] <luca_p> it seems it goes very very slow..and then it stops..
[11:46] <_Groo_> luca_p: something is screwed up with your adsl, its not a linux/ubuntu problem per se... try this
[11:46] <_Groo_> luca_p: call your ISP , say you are running a MAC and ask them for the correct config for gateway and dns
[11:46] <luca_p> a MAC?
[11:48] <_Groo_> luca_p: yep
[11:48] <_Groo_> luca_p: if you tell them you are running linux you have an almost 100% chance of them telling you they dont suport it
[11:48] <luca_p> :)
[11:48] <luca_p> ok..so thanks a lot for the help.. have a nice day..
[11:48] <_Groo_> luca_p: AFTER they tell you the info you can then say you are running linux :D not before
[11:49] <_Groo_> luca_p: you welcome..
[11:49] <luca_p> ok...I'll try in this way..bye..
[12:10] <Ayabara> anyone running dual screen in kde 4.2?
[12:14] <ahmos> i need t know a good program for converting audio files
[12:17] <EKrava> ahmos k3b with plugins ?
[12:18] <ahmos> EKrava: good to know this info. but is there others
[12:21] <EKrava> ahmos: shntool ?
[12:23] <ahmos> EKrava what is shntool?
[12:23] <EKrava> multi-purpose tool for manipulating and analyzing WAV files shntool is a multi-purpose WAVE data processing and reporting utility. File formats are abstracted from its core, so it can process any file that contains WAVE data, compressed or not - provided there exists a format module to handle that particular file type. shntool has native support for .wav files. If you want it to work with other formats, you must have the appropriate helper pro
[12:23] <EKrava>  - notably for Monkey's Audio, wavpack, LPAC, OptimFROG - are not (yet) available in Debian. With the helper programs mentioned above, shntool is able to convert files between all supported formats.
[12:24] <EKrava> is a copy of aptitude show shntool
[12:26] <ahmos> i found it in my repos.
[12:27] <EKrava> yes
[12:28] <EKrava> is a console tools for manipulating audio files in any formats.
[12:29] <ahmos> i see now
[12:38] <shadowhywind> hay all I am trying to install the kde 4.2 beta however i am getting Errors were encountered while processing: for pkg-kde-tools and kjots, any one have any ideas?
[12:39] <castroverde> buenos dias a todos
[12:51] <Zaraki_Kenpachi_> hi
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[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> hi abarai_renji
[12:55] <PSiL0> !ati
[12:55] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <PSiL0> !firefox
[12:55] <ubottu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:55] <PSiL0> !qt
[12:55] <ubottu> Qt is the Qt (pronounced "cute") toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt 3 applications or libqt4-dev for Qt 4 applications. Qt 4.4 is available from hardy-backports
[12:56] <PSiL0> !var
[12:56] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about var
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> !coffee
[13:01] <ubottu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[13:01] <thomas> hi
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> hi thomas
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[13:12] <kabunta> hello world
[13:12] <kabunta> anyone know how to get the installator used in live-cds ?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> kabunta: if you right click the installer icon - you can see what it runs
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> kabunta: is that what you meant?
[13:14] <kabunta> that's ok, i  found it, it named Ubiquity ^^
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> !info ubiquity
[13:15] <ubottu> ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.10.10 (intrepid), package size 2544 kB, installed size 9228 kB
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> yep, looks right ;)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> nice one
[13:18] <kabunta> i'm creating a kubuntu-based distrib, destined to windows-users or lambda users ^^
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> kabunta: shouldnt take too much doing
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[13:24] <dfaure> did something change with the encoding of ntfs-3g/fuseblk partitions? I didn't change anything, just apt-get update, and all folders with accents disappeared...
[13:24] <thomas> hi
[13:24] <thomas> alle
[13:24] <abarai_renji> hi, ActionParsnip1
[13:25] <thomas> was ist
[13:25] <zeltak> hi guys, anyone know of a deb package for either kdenlive 0.7 or the new kde4 digikam, cant compile them
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[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> zeltak: sudo apt-get install digikam
[13:26] <zeltak> yeah but a) that isnt the new digikam that uses qt4 and also for some reason it uninstalls kdegraphics (im using kde 4.2 beta)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> zeltak: you could compile. im not sure about kde4.2 support here
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> zeltak: as its not released
[13:27] <zeltak> i troed to compile both kdenlive and digikam but couldnt get it working at all (tried a couple of hours..)
[13:28] <zeltak> oh well
[13:28] <zeltak> i guess ill have to wait for a package to appear sometime
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[13:30] <Mamarok> hi all
[13:32] <dfaure> are ntfs partitions created by windows usually in utf8, or in latin1 (in Europe)?
[13:32] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: FYI, I had like 10 kwin crashes of various importance (X freeze to total freeze with hard reboot) in the last 24 hours. Is this a known bug for 4.2. beta?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> dfaure: i believe utf8
[13:33] <JontheEchidna> X freezes are almost always driver issues. Perhaps the new KWin is exposing driver bugs
[13:33] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: using fglrx
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: you can clarify its kwin by installing a differnt WM like fluxbox
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: you could take a look in /var/lob/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old to see if there are any backtraces
[13:35] <Mamarok> will do
[13:35]  * Mamarok dives into var 
[13:35] <dfaure> ActionParsnip1: any idea what i could do if it's mounted without any accents? I tried locale=en_US.utf8 in the mount options, didn't change anything
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> dfaure: are the accents in the filenames?
[13:36] <dfaure> hmm it ignores the options from fstab at boot time
[13:36] <habit> Hello. I have usplash very stretched during boot on widescreen monitor. Looks horrible, advice me please.
[13:36] <dfaure> ActionParsnip1: yes, file and folder names. used to work, but today they all disappeared.
[13:36] <ilham> hello. what is the best kar player in linux
[13:36] <Salze> My global shortcuts do no longer work - about an hour after updating to KDE 4.2 beta 1. At first they where still working. I got this on two accounts. The daemon is running, I already rebootet and tried to import the default settings - but to no avail. Any ideas where to look next?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> ilham: whats a kar?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> ilham: and there is no such thing as best in any software
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> dfaure: you could try some french locale
[13:37] <ilham> ActionParsnip1: kar is mid file with text (karaoke).
[13:37] <dfaure> ActionParsnip1: I tried that too ;)
[13:38] <dfaure> but it has no effect at boot time....
[13:38] <dfaure> the option appears in the output of "mount" only after I do a remount (and who knows if that's really supported)
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> ilham: kmid or plarpebu
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> dfaure: starnge, you could add the remount command to your startup in a script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[13:39] <dfaure> ActionParsnip1: but it doesn't work, even after a remount :-)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> ilham: pykaraoke
[13:40] <ilham> ActionParsnip1: i will try plarpebu
[13:40] <dfaure> the locale option appears in the "mount" output, but that's all, the folders still don't reappear
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> hmm, then ive no idea sorry. keep web searching and try in here later on
[13:42] <Mamarok> funny, I thought I was using fglrx, actuall I use Radeon :)
[13:42]  * Mamarok looks for a diff
[13:44] <rakku> hello there
[13:45] <rakku> I got a problem when trying to update to 4.2, can anybody help?
[13:45] <Mamarok> rakku: what problems?
[13:46] <rakku> hei, there's a problem with dependencies
[13:46] <Mamarok> rakku: dependencies or trying to overwrite?
[13:47] <rakku> if I try to run dpkg --configure -a it gives me a series of errors
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[13:48] <rakku> with dependency problems
[13:48] <Mamarok> rakku: try to force them, I had similar errors
[13:48] <rakku> you mean with apt-get install -f?
[13:48] <rakku> I tried that  too
[13:48] <Mamarok> rakku: can you post the error output in http://past.ubuntu.com and give the link here?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: can you write a guide for this and stick it in a factoid :)
[13:49] <gimpgnu> one question, what download gnome in kubuntu?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: can you rephrase please
[13:49] <Mamarok> gimpgnu: don't understand your question
[13:49] <gimpgnu> for download gnome, how ?
[13:50] <rakku> <Mamarok> ok
[13:50] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[13:50] <smux> Hello. MSN protocol is not supported on kopete, kde 4.2 b1 ?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: will download and install gnome, you will then have to log off and change your session type to gnome to get the gnome desktop
[13:50] <gimpgnu> is most fast ??
[13:50] <gimpgnu> kde is very low
[13:51] <smux> I can't add a new msn account, it's missing in protocol list
[13:51] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: if you install fluxbox instead you can use kde apps with fluxbox as the window manager
[13:51] <Mamarok> gimpgnu: I guess it depends on your computer, KDE 4 ist faster than Gnome on my machine
[13:51] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: you could give gnome a try, see which you prefer
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> Mamarok: is that tested using the same windo manager?
[13:52] <gimpgnu> ok, kde 3.5 working good for the 4 is very low
[13:52] <rakku> <Mamarok> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80844/
[13:53] <Mamarok> rakku: these are the same errors I had, you can try to fix them with force
[13:53] <gimpgnu> kde is very good, for gnome rlz in speed
[13:54] <rakku> <Mamarok> can you give me the command?
[13:54] <Mamarok> rakku: I send you the lines in pastebin, moment
[13:54] <gimpgnu> kde is most slow windows vista
[13:54] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: as we say, you can try gnome or you can replace kwin with fluxbox, your choice
[13:55] <kipp_> какой педик мой ник ужо занял? оО
[13:55] <gimpgnu> sudo apt get fluebox?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[13:56] <gimpgnu> great
[13:56] <Mamarok> rakku: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/80846/
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> gimpgnu: then logoff, change session typ to fluxbox and log on again
[13:56] <Mamarok> kipp_: English please!
[13:57] <habit> Hello. I have usplash very stretched during boot on widescreen monitor. Looks horrible, advice me please.
[13:57] <gimpgnu> in the welcome screen?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> !usplah
[13:57] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usplah
[13:57] <ActionParsnip1> !usplash
[13:57] <ubottu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[13:57] <SiVA_> hey
[13:58] <adam__> how can i restore kde 4.1.3 from kde.42 beta?
[13:58] <rakku> <Mamarok> it worked, many thanks!
[13:58] <habit> gimpgnu, nope, while booting.
[13:58] <SiVA_> not sure how launchpad.net works... I want to install this theme: http://bit.ly/bYdx but what am I supposed to do on that page?
[13:58] <Mamarok> rakku: you are welcome :) thx goes to JontheEchidna who helped me with that yesterday !
[13:58] <gimpgnu> ok
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> adam__: personally, id install gnome, wrench out ALL kde stuffs and reinstall kde4.1, then rip out gnome
[13:59] <dfaure> or just do it from text mode
[14:00] <adam__> but what packages needed to be installed for kde 4.1.3?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> hmm, you could try. sudo apt-get --reinstall nstall kubuntu-desktop
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> oops typo
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop
[14:01] <adam__> thank you
[14:02] <kaniteko> hello all !
[14:02] <kaniteko> !wiki live cd custom
[14:02] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> kaniteko: none of the factoids have spaces
[14:03] <wesley_> I have found a possibil bug in kde4.2
[14:04] <SiVA_> I used to use totem in gnome to listen to online radio thru firefox. What is the equivalent for KDE?
[14:04] <wesley_> Amarok
[14:04] <kaniteko> vlc is good too
[14:05] <kaniteko> amarok/songbird if you want library
[14:05] <SiVA_> but when I go to install missing plugins from firefox, it doesn't list amarok
[14:05] <Cannon> hey guys, how do I mount a hdd so I can access the music from amarok?
[14:05] <SiVA_> I'm talking about listening to audio through firefox....
[14:05] <kaniteko> it's a separate app, not firefox extension
[14:05] <kaniteko> ah
[14:05] <barker> So, ... how is kubuntu different from ubuntu?
[14:05] <kaniteko> don't know
[14:05] <kaniteko> kubuntu = kde, ubuntu ) gnome
[14:05] <SiVA_> there is: xine, Media plugin, Totem, VLC, Mplayer
[14:05] <wesley_> kubuntu is better
[14:05] <wesley_> ubuntu sucks
[14:05] <kaniteko> yeah !
[14:05] <kaniteko> i've got kde 4.2 *.*
[14:06] <SiVA_> which plugin should i install?
[14:06] <wesley_> ubuntu thats like using Windows 95 with some unsupported extras
[14:06] <kaniteko> anyone know how to create a customized kubuntu-based live cd ?
[14:06] <barker> kde 4.2???  The SuSE people told me that 4.1 is under development!
[14:06]  * brownrm is installing 4.2 beta
[14:06] <kaniteko> lol XD
[14:06] <kaniteko> it's stable the 4.1
[14:06] <kaniteko> 4.2 in beta 1
[14:07] <brownrm> yep
[14:07] <shadowhywind> hay all I just installed kde 4.2 beta, and having a bit of an issue with it. I dual screen and single screen sometimes (laptop user) However when i am on single screen. I get half the desktop from the second screen
[14:07] <SiVA_> how do I determine what KDE is installed?
[14:07] <barker> Does kubuntu have a C++ IDE ?
[14:07] <kaniteko> try eclipse for multi-language ide
[14:07] <brownrm> kdevelop
[14:08] <kaniteko> supports web languages such xhtml, php, css, and app languages such as java, c*...
[14:08] <barker> c* .... you mean c# ?
[14:08] <SiVA_> netbeans is good too now
[14:08] <brownrm> kdevelop is a multi-language ide and includes support for cmake
[14:08] <kaniteko> any C.
[14:08] <barker> netbeans ... Is that another IDE?
[14:09] <kaniteko> i think eclipse will support all of C*
[14:09] <kaniteko> yeah
[14:09] <kaniteko> supported by sun
[14:09] <kaniteko> but the visual editor is only for swing (java gui), then i use eclipse to make java gui with SWT
[14:12] <Cannon> hey guys, just installed kubuntu and can't get my sound working ... checked the volume and that it's not muted ... any ideas?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> Cannon: rn lspci, it will tell you what soundcard you have
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> Cannon: you can websearch from there
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> Cannon: do you get ANY sound at all?
[14:13] <Cannon> nope, no sound
[14:13] <Cannon> i tried to play the welcome track in amarok
[14:13] <wesley_> apachelogger, ive found a possible bug in kde4.2, when Dragonplayer is in fullscreen and i double click to go back, then i will see a flash off the background from the inlog screen
[14:14] <Cannon> i dunno how to add other hdd's yet so no access to my music
[14:15] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:17] <Mamarok> wesley_: there are many bugs in 4.2, read the bugs section in the release note: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[14:19] <ephoenix> hey everyone
[14:19] <Cannon> ActionParsnip1: what does rn do?
[14:19] <Cannon> says package not found
[14:20] <dfaure> he meant "run" (don't type it) ;)
[14:20] <dfaure> just type "lspci"
[14:20] <dfaure> Cannon: ^
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> cheers
[14:21] <ephoenix> Since I install kde 4.2 there I have been depency issues, could that because of the bugs in kde 4.2
[14:22] <Mamarok> ephoenix: there are a few errors, you can force, worked for me
[14:25] <ephoenix> Mamarok : I am trying to cleaning up some of the dependency issues
[14:26] <Mamarok> ephoenix: try the command in this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/80846/
[14:32] <ephoenix> be rite back
[14:32] <SiVA_> Can I connect two laptops with a firewire cable and xfer between both?
[14:32] <SiVA_> I plugged them both in but nothing happened in kubuntu
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[14:33] <timbba> hello, there are kde 4.2 beta packages available on PPA repository... however I faced a problem on upgrading: it complains about  "kde-icons-oxygen" package which has  one file which is alredy on "koffice-data-kde4" . So install of that package fails. Any idea how to proceed?
[14:35] <timbba> also some other packages are dependant of that oxygen so they fail also..
[14:38] <Mamarok> timbba: check here: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/80846/
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> SiVA_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26192
[14:38] <trappist> SiVA_: I believe firewire networking is possible, but it takes some work.  it won't just start working when you plug them in.
[14:38] <SiVA_> k
[14:39] <timbba> thanks Mamarok :)
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[14:44] <reijimaigo> can i ask a question???
[14:45] <reijimaigo> where can i get the mysql libs....
[14:45] <reijimaigo> alll
[14:45] <reijimaigo> ??
[14:45] <SiVA_> a little impatient?
[14:47] <rodrigo> wow this is kubuntu
[14:47] <noaXess> is there a way to restart a service that control hotplug? i have a dvd-bay with a hotplug dvd-rom..
[14:48] <duomix> chanel
[14:48] <kaniteko> with kde 4.2 beta, i got something white and empty in the taskbar :s
[14:48] <rodrigo> kubuntu Wow
[14:50] <rodrigo> Im loving this company
[14:53] <rodrigo> kubuntu Wow
[14:53] <Mamarok> reijimaigo: look for it in your package manager
[14:54] <goona> Hi! Why is KDE 4.2 Beta 1, no other current plasma theme included, except of Oxygen?
[14:55] <Mamarok> goona: you miss some packages then, I've got a lot of others
[14:57] <goona> Mamarok: I have more than one too, but this are all KDE 4.1 Themes.
[14:58] <Mamarok> goona: well, install them from "get new themes" then
[15:16] <appletree> hi2all
[15:44] <Reptile> My laptop does not recognise the vga output
[15:44] <Reptile> help anyone ?
[15:47] <snarkster> what do you mean?
[15:48] <snarkster> im upgrading Ill bbl
[15:48] <Reptile> the output for extra monitor is not working
[15:49] <Reptile> in monitor settings the vga output is grey
[15:50] <Reptile> do u get what i mean
[15:52] <SlimeyPete> Reptile: try using the "urandr" program (available from apt-get/adept)
[15:52] <SlimeyPete> it provides an alternative way of configuring dual monitors. I find that it works better.
[15:55] <Reptile> urandr, did u spell it right
[16:10] <snarkster> upgrade did not go as smoothly as I had expected.. a problem with kdeedu.
[16:10] <snarkster> kalzium was trying to upgrade a file that was in conflict with kalgebra and kmoustetools
[16:11] <snarkster> but its beautiful i tell ya
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[16:19] <estres> #kubuntu-es
[16:29] <Seven_Six_Two> I somehow lost all of the kmail passwords in kwallett. this sucks.
[16:29] <dfaure> 762: hmm, no backups of the kwallet file, maybe?
[16:30] <Seven_Six_Two> It was either an update, or I didn't allow kmail access to the wallet and that cleared all the kmail entries. dfaure, you're right. no backup
[16:30] <Seven_Six_Two> where is the wallet file?
[16:30] <dfaure> ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet
[16:30] <Seven_Six_Two> thanks
[16:30] <dfaure> maybe it's just because you ugpraded to kde4 and it's looking into ~/.kde4/share/apps/kwallet?
[16:31] <Seven_Six_Two> ooh, I did just upgrade. someone in here told me that kde3.5 is available in 8.10
[16:31] <Seven_Six_Two> oh, how they lied to me...
[16:34]  * dfaure has no idea about that
[16:46] <Seven_Six_Two> oh I know, that's ok.
[16:48] <jmichaelx> can anyone who has been using kde4.2 beta tell my how their experience has been?
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[16:52] <astromme> jmichaelx: With the beta itself? Really good, and I'm very excited for the release
[16:52] <estres> #kubuntu-es
[16:53] <astromme> jmichaelx: With my ati card and (moreso) fglrx? Ugh.... Make the pain stop.
[16:55] <jmichaelx> hmm, i am using fglrx in 4.1 without issues
[16:57] <jmichaelx> what problems are you having with fglrx?
[17:03]  * dfaure had problems with fglrx on a thinkpad T500, didn't come from the driver in fact, but from the default BIOS setting that enables a Vista only feature (Switchable Graphics Mode).
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[17:34] <xenoterracide_> what's a good looking gtk style, I normally use qtcurve but I see that's not installed...
[17:37] <Mamarok> xenoterracide_: why not install it?
[17:37] <farrelbj> hi, i'm having trouble upgrading to 8.10.  I get an error about /boot requiring 101MB of free space.  My /boot partition is only 92MB and has 70MB of free space.  I'm currently running kubuntu 8.04 and was able to install the recent security update to the kernel with no space problem .
[17:38] <farrelbj> anyone have any suggestions?
[17:38] <Mamarok> xenoterracide_: package name is kde4-style-qtcurve IIRC
[17:38] <stdin> farrelbj: is /boot on it's own partition or the root?
[17:38] <PowerJC> how can i install atlantik in kubuntu 8.10?
[17:38] <farrelbj> it's own partition
[17:40] <stdin> farrelbj: then I guess you could resize it. or try the command-line upgrade
[17:42] <farrelbj> it seems to be a bug to me, a kernel shouldn't take that much space
[17:43] <farrelbj> i've tried the upgrade from both KDE and GNOME in case it was a bug in the upgrade tool
[17:44] <skande> ??
[17:44] <RurouniJones> farrelbj:
[17:45] <RurouniJones> Have you removed all the old images etc
[17:45] <farrelbj> unless there is additional packages that install to /boot in 64bit kubuntu  my 32 bit laptop upgrade had no problem and only uses 42MB of the /boot partition
[17:46] <farrelbj> yeah RurouniJones, the only stuff in boot is from the 2.6.22-24 kernel, there's 70MB of free space on /boot
[17:46] <skande> plz ndiswrapper don't work and B43XX-fwcutter package too
[17:47] <RurouniJones> Hmmm, not sure then
[17:48] <stdin> farrelbj: try asking in #ubuntu-installer
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[17:51] <xenoterracide_> Mamarok: just being lazy, plus with all the ones installed I figued one has to look good with kde
[17:51] <farrelbj> thanks stdin
[18:02] <logan_WHD> anyone know of a program to view psd's in 8.04?
[18:03] <PowerJC> does anyone know how to get kde3 games running in kubuntu 8.10? its driving me mad
[18:05] <jabrroa> what games?
[18:06] <estres> #ubuntu-es
[18:06] <PowerJC> atlantik mainly
[18:06] <PowerJC> i've been trying for hours, and there seems to be no solution
[18:07] <jabrroa> hmmm
[18:07] <stdin> you were told in #kde, you need to download and compile it
[18:08] <PowerJC> i tried to compile it, but it gave an error
[18:08] <logan_WHD> anyone know of a program to view psd's in 8.04?
[18:08] <stdin> PowerJC: have you installed all the things it needs, like kdelibs4-dev?
[18:09] <jabrroa> download it off of adept?
[18:09] <PowerJC> tried adept, dosn't seem to be on it
[18:09] <PowerJC> the problems comes from ubuntu dropping support for it i think
[18:09] <stdin> it's there
[18:09] <stdin> !info kdelibs4-dev
[18:09] <ubottu> kdelibs4-dev (source: kdelibs): development files for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu6 (intrepid), package size 1371 kB, installed size 7656 kB
[18:10] <stdin> we still have the KDE3 libs, because we still use some KDE3 apps
[18:10] <jabrroa> its on synaptic
[18:10] <[Relic]> any problems with just downloading non-free flash from the site instead of installing the outdated package from 8.04 LTS?
[18:11] <PowerJC> so i need to install kdelibs4-dev
[18:12] <PowerJC> then kdegames 3?
[18:13] <stdin> PowerJC: yes
[18:13] <PowerJC> ok i'll try that
[18:13] <logan_WHD> any idea how to make links stop opening in konqueror but in ff instead?
[18:14] <jabrroa> i just used synaptic and installed it and ran it
[18:14] <PowerJC> its not in synaptic, only monopd
[18:14] <PowerJC> unless there is another option
[18:14] <stdin> [Relic]: until a new package is released to work around adobe removing the download, you may have to
[18:15] <jabrroa> no it says atlantik
[18:15] <logan_WHD> got it
[18:15] <PowerJC> are you using kubuntu?
[18:15] <PowerJC> 8.10?
[18:15] <jabrroa> yea
[18:15] <stdin> !info atlantik intrepid
[18:15] <jabrroa> yea
[18:15] <ubottu> Package atlantik does not exist in intrepid
[18:15] <stdin> it's not in intrepid
[18:15] <jabrroa> i just dl it
[18:16] <jabrroa> some monopoly game
[18:16] <stdin> then you got it from somewhere else
[18:16] <jabrroa> board games and such
[18:16] <PowerJC> i tried to compile it again, get "
[18:16] <PowerJC>   #122
[18:16] <PowerJC> red_team316
[18:16] <PowerJC> A Carafe of Ubuntu
[18:16] <PowerJC>  
[18:16] <PowerJC> red_team316's Avatar
[18:16] <PowerJC>  
[18:16] <stdin> !paste > PowerJC
[18:16] <jabrroa> no i got it off of synaptic
[18:16] <ubottu> PowerJC, please see my private message
[18:16] <PowerJC> Join Date: Apr 2007
[18:16] <jabrroa> :)
[18:16] <PowerJC> Posts: 97
[18:16] <PowerJC> Thanks: 2
[18:16] <PowerJC> Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
[18:16] <PowerJC> 	
[18:16] <stdin> ok
[18:17] <edju> Trying to import a CD into Amarok.  I've googled, and see that one can drag and drop mp3s from audiocd: in Koonqueror to Amarok.  All that shows, however, is OggVorbis.  Also, drag and drop is for individual tracks, not the whole Album.  Isn't there a better way to import?
[18:17] <jabrroa> idk why it dont show up for you guys lol
[18:17] <jabrroa> it came up right away when i searched it
[18:18] <PowerJC> i get this "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check "
[18:18] <stdin> edju: you can drag and drop the whole folder to rip the CD, install lame to get mp3 support
[18:18] <PowerJC> i searched for it in synaptic and it didn't come up, so i don't know
[18:18] <stdin> PowerJC: ok, install "build-essential" too
[18:18] <PowerJC> and from what i've read its not part of intrepid
[18:19] <PowerJC> where do i get that from?
[18:19] <stdin> from adept/apt-get
[18:19] <stdin> jabrroa: where does "apt-cache policy atlantik" show it's from, it is not packaged in intrepid
[18:19] <jabrroa> i have hardy
[18:20] <PowerJC> its in hardy, but not intrepid, that explains it
[18:20] <jabrroa> i diddnt know you were in intrepid
[18:20] <jabrroa> sorry bout that
[18:20] <PowerJC> ok
[18:21] <stdin> jabrroa: "<PowerJC> does anyone know how to get kde3 games running in kubuntu 8.10? its driving me mad" ;)
[18:21] <PowerJC> 8.10 is intrepid
[18:21] <PowerJC> now i get "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[18:21] <jabrroa> oh yea lol i have KDE4.0
[18:21] <jabrroa> not kubuntu at all
[18:21] <jabrroa> lol
[18:21] <jabrroa> Ubuntu
[18:22] <stdin> PowerJC: ok, apt-get install libx11-dev
[18:22] <stdin> though kdelibs4-dev should have pulled that in, with libqt3-mt-dev
[18:23] <[Relic]> stdin, do I just select the deb for 8.04 or is that the out dated one?
[18:23] <PowerJC> i only installed kdelibs4 not the dev version, from adept installer
[18:23] <stdin> PowerJC: you need the -dev to compile things
[18:23] <PowerJC> right i install that
[18:24] <stdin> [Relic]: the deb will probably be the best choice, yes
[18:25] <[Relic]> stdin, deb is i386 not 64bit
[18:26] <stdin> [Relic]: adobe does not support 64Bit, but you should be able to use the 32bit deb
[18:27] <stdin> [Relic]: or try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#nspluginwrapper
[18:28] <PowerJC> seems to be going now
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[18:30] <ephoenix> hi i back
[18:30] <[Relic]> stdin, clicking on the deb package won't install it due to that error
[18:31] <stdin> [Relic]: you need to install manually with "sudo dpkg --force-architecture --install /path/to/file.deb"
[18:37] <[Relic]> stdin, no flash guess I am stuck with 9 for a while
[18:37] <ephoenix> I still get some warnings and errors after upgrading to kde 4.2.
[18:38] <ephoenix> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-front.png', which is also in package koffice-data-kde4
[18:38] <stdin> [Relic]: did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#nspluginwrapper I've seen it work for some
[18:38] <stdin> ephoenix: please poke someone in #kubuntu-devel
[18:38] <jabrroa> goto adobe.com
[18:38] <jabrroa> click flash
[18:38] <jabrroa> dl
[18:39] <jabrroa> boom done
[18:39] <ephoenix> stdin: ok
[18:42] <PowerJC> great! its working
[18:42] <PowerJC> thanks
[18:43] <PowerJC> can i remove build-essential and kdelibs4-dev or are they still needed?
[18:46] <stdin> PowerJC: those are only needed when building, you can remove them
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[18:47] <PowerJC> ok, and if i want to remove the kdegames3 package how would i do it?
[18:48] <macboy> hey all..
[18:48] <macboy> anyone there ?
[18:48] <macboy> everyone there ?
[18:48] <stdin> PowerJC: 'make uninstall' should do it
[18:50] <PowerJC> ok, when i was installing i used make install, would checkinstall been better?
[18:50] <macboy> i had ubuntu and it worked fine .. in stalled kubuntu via apt-get install and that was good .. now i donwnloaded the kubuntu cd .. when i start the install i come to the parition part and i don't see my external hd to install to .. any ideas ?
[18:51] <macboy> plus instead of /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb i have /disk1 etc ..
[18:51] <macboy> what does that mean ?
[18:52] <stdin> PowerJC: checkinstall is an option, but I think it has an "uninstall" target too
[18:52] <macboy> i don't think anyone heard .. lol
[18:53] <stdin> macboy: if you already have kubuntu, why are you installing it?
[18:53] <macboy> stdin .. im going to install it over ubuntu  .. i have the cd now and i want to install it to a external hd
[18:54] <stdin> where are you seeing '/disk1'?
[18:54] <macboy> stdin ... dolphin
[18:54] <stdin> have you tried seeing what the installer sees?
[18:54] <macboy> stdin .. i originally had ubuntu and i did a apt-get install kubuntu ..
[18:55] <stdin> you don't need to reinstall to get Kubuntu
[18:55] <stdin> you can just remove all the Ubuntu/Gnome packages
[18:55] <macboy> i want to do a fresh install
[18:55] <stdin> then start the installer up, it should show you what disks it sees
[18:56] <moms> bonsoir
[18:56] <macboy> yea .. so what i did was restart the computer .. put the kubuntu cd in .. i went to install and it went thru the prompts .. it came up to partition and it didn't see anything
[18:56] <[Relic]> now it is all broken and I can't get flash9 back
[18:57] <moms> salut la roomy as quelqu un qui peut m aider
[18:58] <moms> quelqu un parle francais
[18:58] <stdin> !fr | moms
[18:58] <ubottu> moms: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
[18:58] <moms> merci
[18:58] <moms> sory
[18:58] <PowerJC> now i can't get the kde4 versions of kolf for example work, but it dosn't matter, i'm happy now i've got atlantik
[18:58] <PowerJC> thanks stdin
[18:58] <PowerJC> bye
[18:59] <stdin> macboy: did the Ubuntu installer see the HDD?
[18:59] <macboy> stdin: no
[18:59] <macboy> didn't see anything .. stdin .. it if it used gparted it probabaly would have
[18:59] <stdin> macboy: then how did you install before?
[18:59] <[Relic]> any ideas on fixing broken flash?  not sure what top reinstall to get it to work again
[19:00] <macboy> stind .. i had ubuntu .. i did a apt-get install kubuntu  .. after it installed i changed my wm to kde
[19:00] <skande_>  can anyone help me  please ?? , my wifi card (04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)) don't work , i don't detect the acess point
[19:00] <skande_> i think the driver isn't installed
[19:00] <macboy> now i fully want kubuntu .. so i downlaoded the iso and put it onto a cd .. now i want to wipe ubuntu and put  kubuntu on it and dual boot windows
[19:00] <stdin> macboy: but how did you install ubuntu if it could not see your HDD?
[19:01] <macboy> stdin .. ubuntu found it using gparted
[19:01] <macboy> stdin .. i installed ubuntu like 2 weeks ago
[19:01] <stdin> !bcm43xx | skande_
[19:01] <ubottu> skande_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[19:02] <stdin> macboy: well Kubuntu uses the same installer as Ubuntu, just using a KDE frontend
[19:02] <macboy> stdin .. you gonna be here like at 7:00 pm ?
[19:02] <stdin> I don't know, what time is it where you are now?
[19:03] <macboy> im at work
[19:03] <skande_> thanks
[19:03] <macboy> 11:03am
[19:03] <stdin> well, it's 7:03pm here
[19:04] <stdin> so that'd be about 3am
[19:04] <stdin> I may well be here though :p
[19:06] <ralpho> its noon here
[19:06] <ralpho> Just made peanut butter fudge.
[19:07] <ralpho> Holly crap is it good
[19:08] <fabio> <-has problem with 4.2beta1 upgrade
[19:08] <fabio> may I ask? Is the proper place?
[19:08] <stdin> fabio: #kubuntu-devel
[19:09] <fabio> thankyou
[19:15] <Goan> Hi. I can not get the java eclipse to work on kubuntu. It is giving an error "the custom vm that you have chosen is not a valid executable"
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[19:28] <ArkoldThos> how do I create the encrypted folder :o?
[19:28] <Eypr> hey eny one how can help with my xorg.conf?
[19:28] <antonio_> #ubuntu-es
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[19:28] <estres> #kubuntu-es
[19:32] <moms> hello
[19:32] <nado> hi
[19:32] <nado> is there a way to install vm-server using apt?
[19:33] <moms> Sory for my english i have one probleme adept
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[19:33] <moms> APT Error. Context:
[19:33] <moms> Running dpkg,
[19:34] <moms> [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --configure, -a ],
[19:34] <moms>  Sup-process returned error code 2
[19:34] <moms> and me i dont no what this
[19:37] <HavocXphere> How do I control what goes on the Favorites of the KDE menu? I don't see anything fav related in the KDE Menu editor.
[19:38] <sigma20> is there a now playing applet for amarok 2 available?
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[19:39] <JontheEchidna> HavocXphere: right click -> add to favorites
[19:39] <HavocXphere> nado: Just use Virtualbox...works better than vm and is in the repo
[19:39] <JontheEchidna> sigma20: the one in KDE 4.1.80 should work with amarok2
[19:40] <HavocXphere> Right-click on what part of the menu?
[19:40] <moms> ok thank and sory
[19:40] <JontheEchidna> if you're using kickoff, anywhere
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> in the traditional menu you can't really add stuff to favorites...
[19:41] <HavocXphere> I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 & kde 4.1
[19:41] <ravalox> I'm a new Kubuntu user and am wondering what you use for bluetooth connectivity in KDE?
[19:41] <HavocXphere> I see a remove from fav, but no add
[19:42] <NeoTr> Arkadaşlar iyi akşamlar.
[19:42] <anderson> kubuntu 8.10: good system :D
[19:42] <HavocXphere> Agreed
[19:43] <sorset> hello, amarok can not use xine, since i upgraded kubuntu, how can i fix it?
[19:44] <sorset> plz help me
[19:45] <sorset> can any one say why?
[19:45] <HavocXphere> Try selecting a different output plugin maybe
[19:45] <johannes_> hey, I try to install amarok2rc1, but get a dependency error: amarok-kde4: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.3) but 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu11 is to be installed
[19:45] <johannes_> where do I get kdelibs5 4.1.3?
[19:46] <PSiL0> sorset:  I am sorry, but I don't now.. man, weren't those guys in #amarok dicks..
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[19:46] <sorset> PSiL0: i did it, they said ask #kubuntu ;)
[19:47] <HavocXphere> johannes...I'm guessing you'll have to add a beta/dev repo to see 4.1.3
[19:47] <johannes_> PSiL0: I followed YOUR guyses instructions here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-1
[19:47] <johannes_> HavocXphere: yeah, well which one. I just followed these instructions from the kubuntu site
[19:48] <PSiL0> johannes: I was about to say that sorset should also search/post in the kubuntu forums... There is usually a quick turnaround for questions there
[19:48] <PSiL0> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php
[19:48] <Mamarok> PSiL0: thx for the "dicks"!
[19:49] <PSiL0> np ;-p
[19:49] <Mamarok> PSiL0: we trieed close to everything to help him, and it's not an Amarok problem, so please!
[19:49] <Mamarok> -e
[19:51] <Mamarok> PSiL0: this sort of behavior is not really nice of you, especially in this channel, if user can't ask for help where else should they go
[19:52] <HavocXphere> johannes_: I think the kde4.2 nightly builds have most of the amarok stuff in them http://forum.kde.org/kde4-beta-repository-t-6284.html
[19:53] <sorset> thank you Mamarok for supporting users :)
[19:54] <j2bruce> who are all of you.
[19:55] <j2bruce> those of you who aren't registered for the conference, gtfo.
[19:55] <j2bruce> :)
[19:55] <j2bruce> somebody speak
[19:55] <j2bruce> weak server.
[19:55] <Pici> j2bruce: This is the official Kubuntu support channel, do you have a question?
[19:55] <Mamarok> j2bruce: behave!
[19:56] <kp_> hi
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[19:57] <keymone> anybody tried apt-build world with successfull build?
[19:57] <PSiL0> Mamarok:  Easy there buddy.  I just call it like I see it.  That being the case, maybe I am not a nice person.
[19:57] <sorset> why no application can use xine? (after upgrade?)
[20:00] <ravalox> I'm a new Kubuntu user and am wondering what you use for bluetooth connectivity in KDE?
[20:00] <ravalox> What manager runs to help you keep track of your devices
[20:00] <ravalox> ?
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[20:01] <PSiL0> sorset: I had to deal with a xine error once before..  Re-editing id3s on the affected mp3s seemed to do the trick
[20:01] <estres> antonio_#ubuntu-es
[20:01] <estres> #ubuntu-es
[20:01] <estres> #kubuntu-es
[20:02] <|Kraplax|> hello
[20:02] <|Kraplax|> i'm trying to upgrade to kde4.2beta1
[20:02] <sorset> PSiL0: can you explain?
[20:02] <sorset> whats it? :D
[20:03] <|Kraplax|> but the process stalled on "trying to overwrite /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/launchpad.png which is already in kdelibs-data"
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[20:04] <Kraplax> what can be done here?
[20:04] <Mamarok> sorset: you can edit the id tags of your files with a tag editor, like easytag for example
[20:04] <sorset> Mamarok: why?
[20:05] <Mamarok> well, it could be a tagging issue, so maybe looking at the tags of your files is not a bad idea
[20:05] <sorset> Mamarok: you mean cleaning tags?
[20:06] <Mamarok> sorset: be sure to use utf-8 encoding with easytag (can be done in the settings of the application)
[20:06] <sorset> the tags are id3v2.4 whith utf8 encoding!
[20:06] <Mamarok> sorset: "cleaning" in the sense of checking if there's not a problem with the tags
[20:10] <PSiL0> sorset: Sorry, I was away from my desk... what Mamarok said. THanks!
[20:10] <sorset> Mamarok: no, i converte to 2.3 with kid3
[20:10] <sorset> but stil having taht problem
[20:10] <sorset> PSiL0: n.p
[20:11] <sorset> PSiL0: what you mean? problem is in tags?
[20:12] <PSiL0> sorset: My tags were edited by "exact audio copy" (windows ripper) for an album.. I just opened up the album directory using kid3 (i think) and resaved the tags to whatever default... No xine errors with those mp3s afterward
[20:12] <user2> hey all
[20:12] <sorset> PSiL0: ok, wll try
[20:13] <user2> inexplicably flash stopped working for one of the users on this server
[20:13] <user2> does anyone have a theory as to how this could have happened
[20:13] <PSiL0> My xine playback problems were mainly due to the formating used by a windows tagger.. I hope that helps
[20:14] <PSiL0> sorset: I remember figuratively tearing my hair out over the possibility of amarok not working, but a simple solution seemed to do the trick.  I hope it works out for you s well
[20:14] <user2> anyone?
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[20:15] <PSiL0> sorset: I was thanking mamarok for the earlier suggestions :)
[20:16] <Kraplax> user2: try to find any flash-related config files and remove them
[20:16] <Dougwiser> damn this stuff kicks m$ a$$
[20:16] <Kraplax> user2: i don't have such problems, though it could help resetting configuration of flash to it's default
[20:16] <gabriel> what's everyone?
[20:16] <user2> and it's only one user too, the other users have no issues...  do you guys think its a good idea to copy the ~/.mozilla dir from another user's ~ dir and just change the owner and group?
[20:17] <Kraplax> user2: where does it not played? what browser?
[20:17] <user2> ...to see if flash will start working as magically as it stopped?
[20:17] <user2> Kraplax: no browser for this user
[20:17] <Kraplax> user2: so, how do you know it doesn't work?
[20:18] <user2> Kraplax: i meant that it works in no browser
[20:18] <sorset> PSiL0: i guss its true, recently i changed tags :D
[20:18] <Kraplax> like a flash player?
[20:18] <user2> Kraplax: ff says its missing, and konqui just says nothing
[20:19] <user2> Kraplax: for instance if i go to youtube in ff i get that link to download the plugin, and in konqui i get just the title of the video and no playing
[20:19] <Kraplax> user2: maybe you've messed with user's id or group id's for that user?
[20:20] <user2> Kraplax: user1 and user2 are restricted but administrator is the normal default user.  it works there
[20:20] <user2> Kraplax: no messing with uid here
[20:20] <user2> Kraplax: maybe i should try to copy the .mozilla dir from one of the working users?
[20:21] <user2> (it also works for user1, just not for user2...  but i know it was working before)
[20:21] <Kraplax> user2: not sure. Though, if you try - don't forget to make a backup
[20:23] <gabriel> hey.  i wan to play wma's in amarok, can anyone help?
[20:23] <HappySmileMan> gabriel: The package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:24] <HappySmileMan> Should install MP3/WMA, Flash, Java and more
[20:25] <nmrp3> hi - I've got a bit of a gremlin with the latest kubuntu
[20:25] <nmrp3> it keeps loosing the keyboard
[20:25] <HappySmileMan> You can find it in the package manager (Menu -> Applications -> Add/Remove Programs) and search for restricted
[20:25] <nmrp3> loging out and in fixes it
[20:25] <gabriel> thx
[20:25] <nmrp3> my wireless keyboard still works for a bit and then that is lost too
[20:26] <nmrp3> the laptop mouse and the wireless mouse cary on working all the time
[20:28] <sorset> PSiL0: recently ive changed tags to id3-2.4 with utf8 encondig in windows
[20:29] <PSiL0> sorset:  ah, that may be the problem.. I still think my fix was a little flukish.. Anyways, I have to go, good luck!
[20:30] <sorset> PSiL0: thank you
[20:30] <sorset> u2
[20:30] <PSiL0> sorset: thanks
[20:31] <jim88> does anyone know how to get rid of the "new server" button near the clock
[20:34] <HavocXphere> jim88: What application are you talking about?
[20:35] <gabriel> does anyone know how i can get my intel webcam to work?
[20:40] <z3e> i will separate /home from / , will 4bg for / will be enought?
[20:40] <boze91> are there any italians here?
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[20:40] <webas> i use ./ 5gb i gues.. or maybe 4gb..
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[20:41] <webas> but i have 80hdd so.. :D
[20:41] <z3e> i have 80gb too, but only 25gb for linux
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> webas: I use 10GB to be on the safe side
[20:41] <boze91> ahaha i have 400gb for linux
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> I ran out once with 2GB, not fun
[20:44] <webas> well my hdd is small so i cant give it 10gb..but if i would had 250gb so 10gb is perfectly safe.. :) else to put in /home i guess :)
[20:45] <boze91> LOL
[20:45] <webas> lol
[20:46] <kaniteko>  hello all !
[20:46] <boze91> hello
[20:46] <kaniteko>  anyone know how to change the KMenu icon ? (kde 4.2 beta)
[20:46] <kaniteko>  don't find in google...
[20:46] <boze91> where are you from?
[20:46] <kaniteko>  france :p
[20:47] <boze91> :D lol i'm italian
[20:47] <boze91> but about your problem
[20:47] <kaniteko>  yeah
[20:47] <boze91> what do yoiu change in your KMENU?
[20:47] <kaniteko>  the K logo
[20:47] <kaniteko>  whick opens the menu
[20:48] <kaniteko>  trying icons/oxygen/*size*/kmenu.png but don't work :s
[20:49] <boze91> i'm searching on net!
[20:51] <boze91> kaniteko! what is your os
[20:51] <boze91> ubuntu 8?
[20:51] <boze91> or feisty?
[20:55] <antonio_> #kubuntu-es
[20:55] <jim88> HavocXphere: I was trying to allow access to to files and this button that looks like a globe showed up
[20:55] <antonio_> #ubuntu-es
[20:56] <DaSkreech> !es
[20:56] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
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[20:58] <frloja> aiai
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[20:58] <HavocXphere> jim88: Yes but where did it show up? On the bottom panel/firefox/etc? Is the globe green?
[20:58] <jim88> HavocXphere: yes, the button says "new server"
[20:59] <jim88> HavocXphere: the bottom panel is invisible but the globe is green
[20:59] <DaSkreech> !br
[20:59] <ubottu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[21:00] <HavocXphere> The green globe is KNetworkmanager. It manages stuff regarding network connections/wireless etc
[21:00] <HavocXphere> I ignore it most...
[21:00] <jim88> HavocXphere: oh, I just wanted to get rid of it from the panel
[21:00] <HavocXphere> Right click on it & select quit
[21:01] <HavocXphere> I haven't worked out how to prevent it from coming back tough.
[21:01] <jim88> HavocXphere: I tried that ... it says "new server"
[21:01] <jim88> HavocXphere: ugh :(
[21:02] <jim88> HavocXphere: never mind I figured it out
[21:02] <HavocXphere> Ok. Press ctrl-esc...that should give you the process manager
[21:02] <HavocXphere> then type in manager
[21:02] <HavocXphere> and select knetwork manager
[21:02] <jim88> HavocXphere: I went to the upper corner and it said remove from panel
[21:03] <HavocXphere> So its gone now?
[21:04] <jim88> HavocXphere:  yes, it's gone
[21:05] <jim88> HavocXphere:  in the very upper left corner there was a small arrow then I clicked on it and the remove from panel came up
[21:05] <lc0788956> hey, im having a problem getting a live cd to load
[21:05] <lc0788956> anybody have any ideas?
[21:05] <jim88> HavocXphere:  thanks for your help
[21:05] <HavocXphere> lc0788956: WHat is the problem?
[21:05] <HavocXphere> jim88: SUre thing...but you figured it out yourself
[21:06] <lc0788956> well, i put the cd in, it boots, i can pick the language, then i say i just wana try it, and then the screen goes black and i get a flashing cursor
[21:06] <lc0788956> and it doesnt progress
[21:06] <ruben_> hola
[21:06] <boze91> hola hola
[21:07] <ruben_> q tal ?
[21:07] <HavocXphere> lc0788956: I had the same problem. Press F4 during the install and select Safe graphics
[21:07] <HavocXphere> lc0788956: I bet you've got an graphics card from ATI like me
[21:07] <boze91> abla
[21:07] <lc0788956> oh really, is that seriously all im gona have to do
[21:07] <lc0788956> well its an optiplex 320
[21:08] <lc0788956> integrated videocard
[21:08] <lc0788956> so its nothing special, but idk
[21:08] <HavocXphere> lc0788956: It will probably work. If not download the alternative CD
[21:08] <lc0788956> is teh alternative cd the text based one?
[21:09] <HavocXphere> Yes...but its very easy too...don't let the text part scare you
[21:09] <lc0788956> yeah, im not too worried about it, i can usually squirm through
[21:09] <lc0788956> okay ty havoc, ill try that.
[21:10] <HavocXphere> Sure...good luck. KDE 4 rocks btw
[21:11] <DaSkreech> !es
[21:11] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[21:20] <driva2009> Evening all.
[21:20] <driva2009> I wonder if I could seek help. I am assisting in #kde, we have a user who is using kde on ubuntu, and can't get his power management for the monitor to work from systemsettings.
[21:21] <driva2009> He is running Ubuntu, with a QuadCode 2.40ghz proc
[21:21] <DaSkreech> What version of Ubuntu?
[21:22] <driva2009> one mo asking
[21:22] <driva2009> he has 8.04
[21:22] <driva2009> running KDE 4.1.3
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[21:23] <marcello> ciaoooooooooooo
[21:24] <driva2009> ciao marcello
[21:24] <marcello> mica male driva
[21:24] <driva2009> DaSkreech: Any ideas? I don't use Ubuntu myself, I am on another distro, so helping with Ubuntu is kinda tricky, but I appear to be the only one helping in there
[21:25] <DaSkreech> !it
[21:25] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
[21:25] <DaSkreech> driva2009: Throw them in here?
[21:25] <driva2009> Sure, I'll point them at you. Hold on a mo
[21:26] <marcello> ?????
[21:26] <xenoterracide_> hola
[21:26] <driva2009> DaSkreech: This is the guy with the issue.
[21:26] <DaSkreech> Hi
[21:26] <xenoterracide_> hello
[21:26] <DaSkreech> What's the issue?
[21:26] <driva2009> xenoterracide_: this is DaSkreech - Skreech, xeno...
[21:26] <driva2009> :)
[21:26]  * DaSkreech bows
[21:26] <driva2009> Introductions over - lets see if we can help you
[21:26] <marcello> ;)
[21:26] <xenoterracide_> man I feel like I'm being set up on a blind date
[21:26] <xenoterracide_> :P
[21:26] <xenoterracide_> jk
[21:26] <driva2009> lol
[21:27] <xenoterracide_> anyways
[21:27]  * DaSkreech feels around for xenoterracide_
[21:27] <xenoterracide_> feels around?
[21:27] <DaSkreech> I'm blind :)
[21:27] <xenoterracide_> oh
[21:28] <xenoterracide_> well since I'm sure my issue has been explained is powerdevil required for this to work?
[21:29] <marcello> italiano no eh?
[21:29] <DaSkreech> marcello: no irc://irc.ubuntu.com:8001/ubuntu-it
[21:30] <DaSkreech> xenoterracide_: powerdevil can't hurt. I'm not sure if that'spackaged fr 4.1 on 8.04
[21:30] <DaSkreech> !find powerdevil
[21:30] <ubottu> Found: powerdevil
[21:30] <DaSkreech> !info powerdeveil hardy
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[21:30] <xenoterracide_> I installed it
[21:30] <ubottu> Package powerdeveil does not exist in hardy
[21:30] <xenoterracide_> but it wasn't before
[21:30] <DaSkreech> !info powerdevil hardy
[21:30] <ubottu> Package powerdevil does not exist in hardy
[21:31] <DaSkreech> Ah that's handy
[21:31] <xenoterracide_> ah... it's in the kde4-kubuntu-desktop repo or whatever
[21:31] <driva2009> DaSkreech: does that need to be dpkg'd then?
[21:31] <xenoterracide_> kde4 isn't in hardy
[21:31] <DaSkreech> Right of course it is :)
[21:32] <xenoterracide_> I don't know how it works though.. and the kde4-kubuntu-desktop package didn't install it
[21:32] <xenoterracide_> which is why I was wondering if it was needed for this to work
[21:32] <xenoterracide_> still does anyone know how I could test this manually?
[21:32] <xenoterracide_> instead of waiting?
[21:32] <DaSkreech> Probably it's pretty good I've never used it
[21:33] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Ever danced with the powerdevil by the pale neon light?
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[21:34] <ravalox> Hey, I'm trying to install new themes to my Kubuntu desktop; where is the theme manager for doing that?
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[21:35] <ravalox> I can change things in the appearance menu like icons and fonts, but there doesn't seem to be a place for me to just load a theme?
[21:36] <meh_ivan> hi, how can I install quanta in 8.10?
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[21:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> hello, I just finished upgrading to kubuntu 8.04.
[21:39] <HavocXphere> ravalox: You can change stuf like the panel's look by right click on desktop->desktop settings->Desktop theme
[21:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> My wireless card was working fine with Gutsy and now it doesn't want to connect even though I have the driver loaded and I can see the card when I do a iwconfig
[21:39] <gundam_rx78nt1> Can somebody please help me get it up and running?
[21:40] <meh_ivan> anyone using quanta in 8.10? I can't install it
[21:41] <xenoterracide_> quanta isn't kde4 yet
[21:41] <grandi> so if I install 64 bit kubuntu, what doesn't work?
[21:42] <DaSkreech> xenoterracide_: What are you trying to get to work?
[21:42] <ravalox> That would be it, thank you very much
[21:42] <xenoterracide_> DaSkreech: I want the screen to power off
[21:42] <gundam_rx78nt1>  anybody that knows how to configure a wireless card?
[21:42] <xenoterracide_> after a certain amount of time
[21:42] <xenoterracide_> I'm about to write a shell script to do it
[21:43] <DaSkreech> xenoterracide_: Ahhh Hmm I forget what makes that not work again
[21:43] <xenoterracide_> although how to get that on a detect input timer I don't know
[21:43] <DaSkreech> I know if I kill plasma it will turn off
[21:43] <xenoterracide_> so it is a known bug
[21:43] <DaSkreech> I don't know
[21:43] <xenoterracide_> well I found some that seem to be related
[21:43] <xenoterracide_> whether anyone is working on them
[21:44] <DaSkreech> I just know that I killed plasma to do something and 5 minutes later my Monitor turned off
[21:45] <driva2009> I just updated the bug on the kde bugzilla, DaSkreech
[21:45] <driva2009> and xenoterracide_
[21:45] <driva2009> it doesn't exist in KDE 4.1.2 on my distro, so it needs to be dealt with on some and not others :)
[21:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> is there a problem with wireless cards when upgrading to Hardy from gutsy?
[21:46] <DaSkreech> xenoterracide_: May want to hop into #kubuntu-devel and inquire into if it's a distro specific thing that they know about
[21:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> My wireless card refuse to connec t to any available network.
[21:46] <xenoterracide_> dunno, didn't work in gentoo either
[21:47] <xenoterracide_> I installed all of kde3 but really don't want it... any quick way to remove it?
[21:47] <xenoterracide_> all I want are the apps that a few of the kde3 apps I still use depend on
[21:47] <DaSkreech> xenoterracide_: remove kdelibs4c2a
[21:48] <xenoterracide_> bbs 'cause I'll have to reinstall some things
[21:48] <xenoterracide_> including this prog
[21:49] <xenoterracide_> ok good it didn't kick me
[21:49] <xenoterracide_> no kde4 version of adept yet?
[21:50] <DaSkreech> There is but it's still quite rough
[21:51] <DaSkreech> as in draw blood rough
[21:51] <DaSkreech> however if you have nerves of steel and balls of brass then I'm certain you would make a good percussion instrument
[21:52] <DaSkreech> also you could help test the KDE4 adept :)
[21:52] <ravalox> I'm a new Kubuntu user and am wondering what you use for bluetooth connectivity in KDE?
[21:52] <ravalox> What manager runs to help you keep track of your devices?
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> DaSkreech: nope, don't have a laptop
[21:57] <xenoterracide_> DaSkreech: if I'm on n00buntu for more than a week I might
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[21:59] <Linuxing> hola! soy novato en kubuntu y quisiera ayuda
[21:59] <Linuxing> alguien me le?
[22:00] <Linuxing> ???? hay alguiennnnnnnnnnn
[22:01] <bixu> hola
[22:01] <Linuxing> hola bixu
[22:01] <bixu> de donde eres?
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[22:02] <bixu__> hmm
[22:02] <bixu__> eo?
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[22:02] <Linuxing> vengo para solucionar problemas y dudas
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[22:02] <bixu__> hmm
[22:02] <bixu__> yo tengo una
[22:03] <Linuxing> yo tengo varias pero nadie habla
[22:03] <bixu__> como ago una particion d msdos
[22:03] <bixu__> juas
[22:03] <Linuxing> XD
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[22:03] <Linuxing> particion desde msdos?
[22:03] <boze91> i love vito!
[22:03] <bixu__> no no
[22:03] <bixu__> kiero acer una particion d msdos
[22:03] <bixu__> para instalrm el windows otra vez
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[22:04] <Linuxing> te has rendido
[22:04] <Linuxing> XD
[22:04] <bixu> si
[22:04] <bixu> mi ermano es l k sabe
[22:04] <amarillo> #kubuntu-es
[22:04] <Linuxing> ajajajaa
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[22:04] <bixu> yo flipo con tanta linea para acer las cosas
[22:05] <bixu> tu sabes acer la dixosa particion d dos
[22:05] <sevenseeker> Howdy, what is the tool (or toolchain) for scanning a doc to pdf?
[22:05] <bixu> es k sino no m deja instalarlo
[22:05] <Linuxing> :S
[22:05] <Linuxing> a ver si tu quieres instalar xp tienes que meter el disco
[22:05] <Linuxing> y con el disco hacer las particiones que quieras
[22:05] <bixu> aha
[22:05] <bixu> es cierto
[22:05] <Linuxing> y luego indicas que particion quieres elegir para instalar windows
[22:05] <ArkoldThos> bixu and Linuxing, #kubuntu-es
[22:06] <bixu> (k bobo soy)
[22:06] <bixu> lol
[22:06] <Linuxing> ArkoldThos:  estoy alla
[22:06] <ArkoldThos> bueno, que bixu
[22:06] <ArkoldThos> <.<
[22:06] <Linuxing> ajajajajaa
[22:06] <Linuxing> se largo
[22:08] <DaSkreech> ravalox: kbluetoothd I think
[22:08] <DaSkreech> !es
[22:08] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[22:08] <DaSkreech> !ph
[22:08] <ubottu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[22:09] <DaSkreech> !br
[22:09] <ubottu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:10] <DaSkreech> sevenseeker: poppler
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[22:15] <kaniteko>  hello world !
[22:19] <corsair__> hey, how do i upgrade from kubuntu hardy to intrepid?
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[22:19] <kaniteko>  just force upgrade i think
[22:20] <crav> how can i install compiz-fusion, as it is not in the default repos?
[22:20] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[22:20] <DaSkreech> crav: it is
[22:20] <kaniteko>  i installed it with strange script, i don't know how  to install it with normal way
[22:21] <crav> DaSkreech: as in, sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion?
[22:22] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:24] <DaSkreech> !compiz
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[22:24] <ubottu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:25] <reagleBRKLN> anyone know of kde 4.2b1 debs for hardy? the nightly-neon aren't being updated apparently.
[22:26] <reagleBRKLN> https://edge.launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive hardy debs are from october
[22:26] <DaSkreech> reagleBRKLN: none that I know of
[22:26] <webas> why my skype urls..opens with konqueror..i want to set to firefox :|
[22:27] <DaSkreech> !default
[22:27] <ubottu> To change the default application for a filetype, go to Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations" (KDE 3), or System Settings -> Advanced -> File Associations (KDE 4). To change your default file manager, change the "inode/directory" and "inode/system_directory" filetypes.
[22:29] <DaSkreech> webas: system settings -> default applications
[22:30] <webas> big thanks daskreech.. hm im on kde 4
[22:30] <webas> ah yes..big thanks
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[22:39] <kaj_> howdy
[22:39] <Styx993> hai
[22:40] <kaj_> what's the name for the generic nvidia driver in the repos ?
[22:41] <kaj_> running a new to me, geforce GT7600
[22:42] <cuznt> !nvidia
[22:43] <cuznt> !botsnack
[22:43] <cuznt> dang bots broke
[22:43] <kaj_> or maybe even the nvidia restricted driver if it works with that card
[22:43] <kaj_> !info nvidia
[22:43] <DaSkreech> nv
[22:43] <DaSkreech> generic
[22:44] <cuznt> are you going to use 3d acceleration much?
[22:44] <kaj_> DaSkreech:  yeah i thought so
[22:45] <kaj_> yeah 3D definitrly
[22:46] <kaj_> gonna switch back to windows for a bit, irssi is too restrictive
[22:46] <DaSkreech> kaj_: use konversation ?
[22:47] <kaj_> I can't startX DaSkreech
[22:47] <DaSkreech> kaj_: X doesn't work?
[22:47] <DaSkreech> not startx but just X
[22:47] <kaj_> I knew this would happen as soon as I installed the new to me card
[22:47] <kaj_> no scrns found , DaSkreech
[22:48] <DaSkreech> kaj_: Did you try reboot to Recovery mode ?
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[22:48] <DaSkreech> There is a FixX button
[22:48] <kaj_> gotta edit the xorg.conf to include the nv driver first
[22:48] <kaj_> BL
[22:49] <DaSkreech> kaj_: the FixX button should probably do that
[22:53] <zbyszek> hi, can you tell me what could i do with .par2 files?
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[23:08] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, got 7600GT up and running , just had to edit some crap out of the xorg.conf file....gotta go BBL
[23:08] <DaSkreech> ok
[23:18] <stu_hates_nvidia> I need some  help with Nvidia drivers 177/173 - is this the best place to ask?
[23:19] <colin_> try the #hatenvidia channel
[23:19]  * DaSkreech hist colin_
[23:19] <DaSkreech> stu_hates_nvidia: No but it's as good a place as any
[23:20] <stu_hates_nvidia> I've tried everything I can find in the forums, installed via envy, installed from nvidia in single user, etc.
[23:20] <stu_hates_nvidia> seems like the drivers install okay
[23:21] <stu_hates_nvidia> but I get this
[23:21] <stu_hates_nvidia> [ 2079.990700] nvidia: probe of 0000:02:00.0 failed with error -1
[23:21] <stu_hates_nvidia> [ 2079.990716] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine failed for 1 device(s).
[23:21] <stu_hates_nvidia> [ 2079.990718] NVRM: None of the NVIDIA graphics adapters were initialized!
[23:21] <stu_hates_nvidia> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
[23:21] <stu_hates_nvidia> which is the right card
[23:23] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[23:24] <stu_hates_nvidia> DaSkreech  ??
[23:26] <DaSkreech> Damn bot :-(
[23:27] <stu_hates_nvidia> lol
[23:28] <ArkoldThos> WTF
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[23:39] <stu_hates_nvidia> guess I'll search more forums while 8.04 downloads.... thanks anyway
[23:40] <cArliTo> ubuntu is great but i have the worst networking issues
[23:41] <Dougwiser> the worst
[23:41] <cArliTo> yeah
[23:41] <Dougwiser> like what
[23:41] <cArliTo> it works fine, but drops or freezes momentarily and often
[23:41] <cArliTo> and its not wireless
[23:41] <cArliTo> directly plugged into a router
[23:42] <cArliTo> no such problems on any other OS & the same router
[23:44] <cArliTo> strange though, my icq client stays connected - just clicking a link or something like that the page will often not load all the way in one shot
[23:44] <spawn57> how do you know it's your network that's causing that?
[23:44] <cArliTo> i dont
[23:44] <cArliTo> but assuming its something to do with the connection between ubuntu & my router
[23:44] <cArliTo> since others are fine
[23:45] <spawn57> hit ctrl+esc and see if there's anything else that's eating up cput cycles?
[23:46] <cArliTo> nothing @ 100%
[23:46] <cArliTo> 65% for mencoder, the rest are little
[23:46] <Dougwiser> have you switched nics yet
[23:46] <cArliTo> i havent
[23:46] <cArliTo> its onboard, i can try another
[23:47] <Dougwiser> just my first notion
[23:47] <cArliTo> booting back into gentoo or windoze works ok
[23:47] <Dougwiser> hmm
[23:47] <cArliTo> so didnt give that a shot yet, but maybe a driver related to that onboard nic?
[23:47] <Dougwiser> does ubuntu call the device by the same name as gentoo and windows
[23:47] <\Kira> What is the partitioner option that says :Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" mean? Whats LVM? This is during the installation
[23:47] <cArliTo> yes eth0 right?
[23:47] <Dougwiser> yes
[23:48] <DaSkreech> !lvm
[23:48] <DaSkreech> ah damn it
[23:48] <ibuffy> i just received a "text to speech software kit!"...but who cares, it has a microphone recorder.. however i can't get it to work :|
[23:48] <cArliTo> i`ve tried & reverted lots of strange networking things from forums, etc - like adjusting window size, and so forth in sysctl
[23:48] <DaSkreech> \Kira: LVM is logical volume managment
[23:48] <ibuffy> !microphone
[23:48] <ibuffy> !recorder
[23:48] <DaSkreech> It allows you to partition a drive then resize it later
[23:49] <DaSkreech> adding or removing space as needed. YO ucan also treat muliple paritions as a single parittion
[23:49] <\Kira> DaSkreech: what does it mean if its encrypted?
[23:49] <DaSkreech> \Kira: That people can't see it without permission
[23:49] <bdizzle> hi
[23:49] <\Kira> DaSkreech: So its not like disk encyption?
[23:49] <bdizzle> this is more of a hardware question, but I'm hoping someone on here can help
[23:49] <\Kira> DaSkreech: such as LUKS
[23:49] <DaSkreech> It is
[23:50] <\Kira> bdizzle: try ##hardware
[23:50] <bdizzle> thanks
[23:50] <\Kira> DaSkreech: so, it is? That means it encypted my entire drive so no-one can see it, and I have to enter a pass at start-up, right?
[23:50] <DaSkreech> yes
[23:50] <\Kira> okay, cool
[23:51] <\Kira> is it as effecient as LUKS?
[23:51] <DaSkreech> Or to be more precise
[23:51] <DaSkreech> It encrypts a voume and you have to put in a password to mount it
[23:51] <DaSkreech> If you do it at startup thats up to you
[23:51] <nacho> hi everyone
[23:51] <\Kira> okay, I see
[23:51] <cArliTo> hi
[23:51] <\Kira> Thanks
[23:51] <nacho> im totally new in llinux
[23:51] <\Kira> but, it would be as good as using LUKS, right?
[23:52] <\Kira> I know, im paranoiod :P
[23:52] <nacho> so i don't know how to make it work
[23:52] <nacho> can any1 help me
[23:53] <nacho> can tell me how to install madwifi, so i can make my atheros wlan card work?
[23:53] <DaSkreech> nacho: Welcome!
[23:53] <DaSkreech> \Kira: It is LUKS
[23:53] <nacho> thnx!
[23:54] <MinusSeven> Do wireless network cards work well with Kubuntu?
[23:54] <\Kira> DaSkreech: yeah, I was just looking at it online. I got it now, thanks :)\
[23:54] <bdizzle> awesome, thanks for the link \Kira
[23:54] <nacho> ?
[23:54] <haros> alo
[23:55] <\Kira> no problem, bdizzle :)
=== haros is now known as hArOs
[23:55] <hArOs> hello
[23:56] <hArOs> ειστε μαλακεσ
[23:56] <nacho> and soooo
=== carlos is now known as cArliTo34
[23:58] <DaSkreech> MinusSeven: Yes they do
[23:58] <etale> hey all I'm having trouble getting ethernet to work on a fresh kubuntu installl
[23:59] <hArOs> Need help
[23:59] <vonkleist> !gr
[23:59] <etale> iit worked for a moment and then quit
[23:59] <hArOs> σας γαμω ρε που δν με help