| Adola | Hello? | 03:11 |
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| Adola | Can someone PLEASE help meh? | 03:15 |
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| kes0 | Halå varför banna mig i ubuntu-se ? | 05:38 |
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| polatov | i am sorry | 10:12 |
| bazhang | polatov, #ubuntu-women ??? | 10:12 |
| Myrtti | what are you up to again? | 10:12 |
| polatov | but | 10:12 |
| bazhang | no but | 10:12 |
| bazhang | you were warned not to go there | 10:13 |
| polatov | do you spek russian? | 10:13 |
| bazhang | yes | 10:13 |
| polatov | can i speak on russian? | 10:13 |
| bazhang | yes | 10:13 |
| polatov | я не призывал чтобы все шли туда | 10:13 |
| polatov | я сказал что ubuntu становится mainstream | 10:14 |
| polatov | Nastya сказала, что mainstream это когда женщины будут пользоваться ubuntu | 10:14 |
| polatov | ясказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women | 10:14 |
| polatov | я сказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women | 10:14 |
| polatov | it is all | 10:15 |
| bazhang | Вы были предупреждены, не идти туда | 10:15 |
| polatov | bazhang, я не ходил туда! | 10:15 |
| polatov | посмотрите logs | 10:15 |
| Myrtti | we have a web page you know | 10:15 |
| Myrtti | you need not to mention the channel | 10:15 |
| bazhang | polatov, I can read russian. | 10:15 |
| polatov | Myrtti, look logs please | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | polatov: [12:14] < polatov> я сказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women | 10:16 |
| polatov | bazhang, я не ходил на этот канал, был там только один раз | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | you don't need to mention the #ubuntu-women channel | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | we have webpages | 10:16 |
| bazhang | polatov, dont go there, dont talk about others going there. | 10:17 |
| polatov | bazhang, ok | 10:17 |
| polatov | but why i can not speak about this channel? | 10:17 |
| bazhang | не туда | 10:17 |
| polatov | what is "mention"? | 10:18 |
| elkbuntu | polatov, i think Myrtti want you to go read website, rather than talk about bad things in irc | 10:18 |
| bazhang | не собираюсь говорить о там | 10:18 |
| bazhang | if you do, that is +b | 10:18 |
| polatov | я не говорил bads things! | 10:18 |
| polatov | я не говорил bad things! | 10:19 |
| bazhang | не претендую. Вы плохие вещи перед | 10:19 |
| polatov | я говорил что linux становится очень популярным, и это очень плохо! | 10:19 |
| polatov | пользователь Nastya сказала, что он еще не такой популярный, потому что мало женщин его используют | 10:20 |
| bazhang | У вас нет оснований ехать туда никогда. | 10:20 |
| polatov | bazhang, я не ходил туда! | 10:20 |
| polatov | я сказал пользователю Nastya что уже есть женский канал! | 10:20 |
| polatov | вы меня не понимаете! ((( | 10:21 |
| bazhang | сексуальные домогательства никогда OK | 10:21 |
| polatov | you don't understand me! | 10:21 |
| bazhang | I do. | 10:21 |
| bazhang | You | 10:21 |
| bazhang | KukMan | 10:21 |
| bazhang | Zloy | 10:21 |
| polatov | bazhang, я не домогался сексуально! | 10:21 |
| polatov | почему вы такое говорите?! | 10:21 |
| polatov | единственное за что вы меня можете to ban - только за flood | 10:22 |
| bazhang | Вы думаете это смешно шутить. | 10:22 |
| polatov | i am flood - it is so | 10:22 |
| polatov | bazhang, я не шучу! | 10:22 |
| polatov | ok | 10:22 |
| polatov | you can not unban me? | 10:22 |
| bazhang | женщины там не думаю, что это забавно и приятно. | 10:23 |
| polatov | bazhang, когда меня предупредили, я не заходил на тот канал | 10:23 |
| polatov | разве это не так?! | 10:23 |
| bazhang | они ненавидят его. | 10:23 |
| polatov | bazhang, ответьте на мой вопрос пожалуйста | 10:24 |
| polatov | разве я заходил на женский канал второй раз? | 10:24 |
| bazhang | Вы zloy и kukman думаю, что это смешно, чтобы перейти туда. | 10:25 |
| polatov | bazhang, разве я заходил на женский канал второй раз? | 10:25 |
| bazhang | Это не смешно. Не на всех. | 10:26 |
| polatov | bazhang, please | 10:26 |
| bazhang | KukMan находится рядом. | 10:26 |
| polatov | say me | 10:26 |
| bazhang | zloy +b | 10:26 |
| bazhang | you +b | 10:26 |
| bazhang | KukMan soon +b | 10:27 |
| polatov | i was on women channel second time? | 10:27 |
| bazhang | mau_ +b | 10:27 |
| bazhang | everyone who goes there will be +b | 10:27 |
| bazhang | dont go there. | 10:28 |
| polatov | i don't want to be on that channel | 10:28 |
| bazhang | YOU have NO reason to go there, ever. | 10:28 |
| polatov | i dont say bad things about that channel | 10:28 |
| bazhang | dont talk about that channel | 10:28 |
| Myrtti | polatov: don't say about it at all | 10:28 |
| Myrtti | polatov: we have webpages | 10:29 |
| Myrtti | http://ubuntu-women.org/ | 10:29 |
| polatov | i saidbad things about all linux distro!!!! | 10:29 |
| Myrtti | if you are discussing about ubuntu and women, use that link | 10:29 |
| bazhang | не говорим о том, что канал | 10:29 |
| polatov | Nastya ask me - why? | 10:29 |
| polatov | i said | 10:29 |
| Myrtti | you don't need to say a thing about #ubuntu-women irc channel | 10:29 |
| bazhang | you can private message her. | 10:30 |
| polatov | "because it is mainstream" | 10:30 |
| bazhang | сексуальные домогательства не OK | 10:30 |
| polatov | nastya said me | 10:30 |
| bazhang | говорят анекдоты о сексе не OK | 10:31 |
| polatov | mainstream will be if linux use women | 10:31 |
| bazhang | that is +b | 10:31 |
| elkbuntu | polatov, saying bad things breaks code of conduct. | 10:31 |
| elkbuntu | !codeofconduct | 10:31 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 10:31 |
| bazhang | polatov, stop now. | 10:31 |
| polatov | i said we have women channel | 10:31 |
| Myrtti | why?! | 10:32 |
| Myrtti | you don't need to say it | 10:32 |
| bazhang | -ru-women | 10:32 |
| polatov | Myrtti, why? where is rules? | 10:32 |
| polatov | that rule?!! | 10:32 |
| bazhang | не спорить об этом | 10:33 |
| bazhang | +b will be longer. | 10:33 |
| polatov | where is that rule where written about women-channel | 10:33 |
| polatov | bazhang, OK | 10:33 |
| bazhang | polatov, stop. | 10:33 |
| bazhang | dont argue about this any more. | 10:33 |
| polatov | я не буду об этом спорить | 10:33 |
| polatov | я не буду говорить об этом канале даже своей маме | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | polatov: this not a rule | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | polatov: it's a polite request | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | polatov: please do not mention #ubuntu-women on any channels. | 10:34 |
| polatov | but i think your ban it is not right | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | polatov: if someone wants to join the channel, they'll find it themself | 10:34 |
| polatov | Myrtti, what is "mention"? | 10:34 |
| bazhang | Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств | 10:34 |
| polatov | bazhang, я понял, я согласен. это правильно | 10:35 |
| Myrtti | polatov: упомянуть | 10:35 |
| polatov | bazhang, но прежде чем to ban me, вы должны были меня предупредить, чтобы я не говорил об этом канале | 10:35 |
| polatov | Myrtti, thank you | 10:36 |
| Myrtti | --> bbl | 10:36 |
| polatov | Myrtti, bbl? | 10:36 |
| Myrtti | be back later | 10:37 |
| polatov | and what about me? | 10:37 |
| bazhang | не возвращаться к этому каналу | 10:39 |
| polatov | bazhang, и не говорить, правильно? | 10:39 |
| bazhang | никогда туда | 10:39 |
| bazhang | no. | 10:39 |
| bazhang | #ubuntu-women | 10:40 |
| polatov | and dont talk about women-channel | 10:40 |
| bazhang | correct | 10:40 |
| polatov | OK | 10:40 |
| polatov | no problem | 10:40 |
| bazhang | tell them DONT GO THERE | 10:40 |
| bazhang | or will be +b | 10:40 |
| polatov | bazhang, ok | 10:40 |
| polatov | but you when you banned me | 10:41 |
| polatov | it was not right ( | 10:41 |
| polatov | не было предупреждение | 10:41 |
| polatov | bazhang, i am tell them DONT GO THERE | 10:41 |
| bazhang | Вы понимаете полностью сейчас? | 10:41 |
| polatov | no problem | 10:41 |
| polatov | bazhang, yes | 10:42 |
| polatov | i am understand you | 10:42 |
| polatov | now | 10:42 |
| bazhang | не недоразумение? | 10:42 |
| bazhang | you go there = +b | 10:42 |
| polatov | yes | 10:43 |
| bazhang | OK | 10:43 |
| bazhang | последний шанс | 10:43 |
| polatov | stop! | 10:43 |
| polatov | please | 10:43 |
| bazhang | next time is no -b | 10:43 |
| polatov | i am sorry, but i think | 10:44 |
| polatov | your ban is not correctly | 10:44 |
| polatov | your must to ПРЕДУПРЕДИТЬ me, then ban | 10:44 |
| bazhang | Я даю вам последний шанс. | 10:45 |
| polatov | bazhang, я считаю вы не правы | 10:45 |
| polatov | вы говорите как Stalin | 10:45 |
| bazhang | После этого, постоянные | 10:46 |
| bazhang | no. | 10:46 |
| bazhang | now is last chance. | 10:46 |
| bazhang | any more problems after now, is permanent. | 10:46 |
| polatov | bazhang, я обещаю не говорить об этом канале | 10:46 |
| polatov | не говорить плохо об этом канале, etc | 10:46 |
| polatov | я обещаю вести себя как good boy | 10:47 |
| polatov | но это не правильно "last chance" | 10:47 |
| polatov | это нарушает мои права | 10:47 |
| bazhang | ok | 10:47 |
| polatov | нельзя так говорить | 10:47 |
| bazhang | you are now able to /join | 10:48 |
| polatov | можно быть ВЕЖЛИВЫМ | 10:48 |
| polatov | спасибо | 10:48 |
| polatov | thank you | 10:48 |
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| [NikO] | LjL, ping :) | 14:57 |
| LjL | [NikO]: pong | 15:42 |
| [NikO] | LjL, sorry for hl ... | 15:42 |
| LjL | kennethgt: i know who magicfab is. i'm just saying that typing "/whois magicfab" will show that he's online | 16:03 |
| LjL | typing "/whois magicfab magicfab" will also show that he's currently active | 16:03 |
| LjL | and typing "/query magicfab" will let you send messages to him | 16:04 |
| LjL | no need to ask in #ubuntu whether someone has seen him | 16:04 |
| kennethgt | LjL, thanks | 16:04 |
| kennethgt | LjL, excuse the inconvenience | 16:05 |
| LjL | no problem | 16:05 |
| Myrtti | I feel so old and addicted to IRC | 16:07 |
| bazhang | Escsun, _kamaz_ was in #ubuntu-women today, after being told not to go there | 16:12 |
| bazhang | Escsun, he was warned that it would be +b if he did so | 16:13 |
| Escsun | bazhang, aaa ban kamaz ? | 16:13 |
| Escsun | bazhang, -> _kamaz_2 | 16:14 |
| bazhang | Вы были предупреждены, не пойти на этот канал. _kamaz_2 | 16:14 |
| bazhang | _kamaz_ (n=faraonxg@91.196.7.26) has joined #ubuntu-women | 16:15 |
| bazhang | <_kamaz_> Здравствуйте о прекрасная половина человечества!!!! | 16:15 |
| bazhang | <_kamaz_> эээ.......меня кто нибудь слышит? | 16:15 |
| _kamaz_2 | этого нельзя было делать? | 16:16 |
| Escsun | _kamaz_2, он по англиски говорит | 16:16 |
| bazhang | после того, как я предупреждал вас не идти | 16:16 |
| bazhang | одна неделя + B | 16:17 |
| _kamaz_2 | не помню чтобы меня ктото предупреждал, но если это было запрещено то извиняюсь | 16:17 |
| bazhang | видеть вас на следующей неделе. мы можем говорить в то время. | 16:18 |
| Escsun | bazhang, но извенился так что прости ему ... | 16:18 |
| kennethgt | lol | 16:19 |
| bazhang | Escsun, anyone enters that channel is +b | 16:19 |
| _kamaz_2 | ребят, да что я плохого сделал??? я никого не оскорбил, не обидел | 16:19 |
| Escsun | bazhang, a ... | 16:19 |
| bazhang | _kamaz_2, видеть вас на следующей неделе | 16:20 |
| _kamaz_2 | ну на первый раз то можно же простить | 16:20 |
| A4Tech | hm.. And what I miss? | 16:23 |
| A4Tech | :) | 16:23 |
| JMS32 | =) | 16:24 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, _kamaz_2 and all the rest were warned not to go into #ubuntu-women and harass the users there. | 16:24 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, but he did so anyway. | 16:25 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, it is a one week ban. | 16:25 |
| A4Tech | understand | 16:25 |
| mau_ | <A4Tech Приветствую. Можете обьяснить, почему нельзя на тот канал заходить? Я не знаю, может принято во фринод-сети, что на русскоязычном канале оператор не говорит на русском, но не вижу взаимосвязи с заходом на один канал с вопросом "как дела?" и баном на д | 16:29 |
| mau_ | ругом. | 16:29 |
| A4Tech | mau_ дело в том, что недавно был инцендент | 16:29 |
| A4Tech | и теперь лучше туда не заходить :) | 16:30 |
| Escsun | mau_, тот канал для девушек (#ubuntu-women) ,а так как там строго тока девушки туда и не надо даже заходить | 16:30 |
| mau_ | а не девушкам-ли решать, кому заходить, кому нет?? | 16:30 |
| mau_ | или в этой сети насратьт на общие правила ирк? | 16:31 |
| A4Tech | mau_ объясни это бажангу | 16:31 |
| Escsun | mau_, в каждом канале есть свои правила | 16:31 |
| mau_ | <Escsun> это ясно. | 16:31 |
| mau_ | <A4Tech> вот как ему обьяснить, если он не говорит на русском? | 16:32 |
| Escsun | mau_, по англиски | 16:32 |
| mau_ | и почему он оператор на русском канале? | 16:32 |
| mau_ | <Escsun> а если я не знаю английского на таком уровне? как, впрочем, большинство канала #ubuntu-ru | 16:33 |
| A4Tech | mau_ так | 16:33 |
| A4Tech | теперь слушай что я те говорю | 16:33 |
| A4Tech | и не перебивай | 16:33 |
| A4Tech | 1. это канал девушек | 16:33 |
| A4Tech | 2. недавно туда заходили люди и спамили | 16:34 |
| A4Tech | 3. некоторые получили бан на всем фриноде | 16:34 |
| A4Tech | 4. туда часто шляются спамить | 16:34 |
| A4Tech | 5. туда часто шляются спамить и не только туда именно блин с нашего канала | 16:34 |
| A4Tech | 6. поэтому администрация фриноды сделаит на нашим каналом | 16:35 |
| A4Tech | 7. не стоит спорить с ними | 16:35 |
| JMS32 | повтори 6ой пункт... | 16:35 |
| A4Tech | следит | 16:36 |
| A4Tech | ) | 16:36 |
| JMS32 | ок =) | 16:36 |
| mau_ | понял, в чём виноват был я, когда схватил бан без предупреждения? Почему нет предупреждения в топиках обоих каналов?? Почему меня банит человек, который не разобрался в ситуации, но мотивирует это 'сэксуальным домогательством', хотя я, зайдя на канал, ни | 16:38 |
| mau_ | слова не написал и вышел?? Почему бан я не могу писать в канал, хотя бан снят, но * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel (с) ? | 16:38 |
| A4Tech | бан на убунту ру не снят) | 16:38 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> you can /join #ubuntu-ru | 16:39 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> you are -b now | 16:39 |
| mau_ | <mau_> спасибо | 16:39 |
| mau_ | из лога | 16:39 |
| A4Tech | бан - не снят | 16:40 |
| mau_ | а как обьяснить лог тогда?? | 16:40 |
| A4Tech | bazhang, you not unban mau_ | 16:40 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, yes I did | 16:40 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, he is in there now. | 16:41 |
| A4Tech | bazhang why is it I said that you removed? | 16:41 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, he did not know the situation. | 16:41 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, so it was my error. | 16:41 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, he did not spam there. | 16:42 |
| mau_ | ладно, разбирайтесь сами.. | 16:42 |
| bazhang | <dmay> question is we want create channel 'ubuntu-blackjack-and-hookers | 16:43 |
| A4Tech | bandzai_, Let us agree with you that in such cases will call me rather than the court itself | 16:43 |
| A4Tech | still it is Russian channel | 16:44 |
| A4Tech | oh... sorry | 16:44 |
| A4Tech | bazhang ^ | 16:44 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, call you? you were not around. | 16:44 |
| A4Tech | I did not have the channel? | 16:45 |
| bazhang | you were not in the channel at that time, no. | 16:45 |
| bazhang | there were NO operators in that channel except me. | 16:45 |
| bazhang | going into -women and spamming/making sex jokes is NEVER ok. | 16:46 |
| bazhang | and the users in -ru need to understand this clearly. | 16:46 |
| bazhang | сексуальные домогательства никогда OK | 16:48 |
| A4Tech | Well then for the future, the first thing to call me or anyone out of the operators of the channel, we do explain that they do. I think your task in the event of a conflict ban them on the channel where they behave badly, and then tell us | 16:48 |
| A4Tech | bazhang I understand you | 16:48 |
| bazhang | I am not an operator in -women | 16:48 |
| bazhang | I am in -ru | 16:48 |
| bazhang | they have been told several times not to do that. | 16:49 |
| A4Tech | Then call gary | 16:49 |
| bazhang | zloy, and KuKman think it is a funny joke still. | 16:50 |
| bazhang | and that they did nothing wrong. | 16:50 |
| A4Tech | Yes, they understand | 16:50 |
| bazhang | polatov has agreed not to return, and understands what he did is wrong. | 16:50 |
| bazhang | no. | 16:50 |
| bazhang | they are still talking like it is a funny joke. | 16:50 |
| A4Tech | but not on our same channel | 16:51 |
| A4Tech | to solve problems where they are | 16:51 |
| LjL | no, using an #ubuntu* channel for harassing another channel is not acceptable. the operators of that channel must make that very clear. | 16:51 |
| A4Tech | understand, I do not like the operator of all channels | 16:53 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, the problems are from -ru; they have not been taken care of there. | 16:53 |
| bazhang | it happened again TODAY. | 16:53 |
| LjL | это не приемлемо для использования Ubuntu канал преследовать другого канала. Это является обязанностью операторов, чтобы остановить, что поведение, когда они заметили. | 16:53 |
| bazhang | after repeated warnings. | 16:54 |
| A4Tech | 16:55 | |
| A4Tech | just if people on our channel behaves correctly, I do not see the logic block it wherever we can | 16:55 |
| LjL | if people on your channel talk about trolling another channel, that must be stopped. | 16:55 |
| A4Tech | stop it where it violates rules | 16:56 |
| bazhang | in -ru | 16:56 |
| bazhang | that is where it violates rules. | 16:56 |
| A4Tech | I prevent breaches on the canal ubuntu-ru | 16:56 |
| LjL | saying | 16:56 |
| bazhang | planning on attacking another channel comes from -ru | 16:56 |
| LjL | "let's go troll another channel" | 16:56 |
| LjL | violates rules. | 16:57 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, planning in -ru is a breach in -ru | 16:57 |
| A4Tech | bazhang I have these people immediately blocked | 16:57 |
| A4Tech | where you have the information that the zone ru in the entire blame? | 16:58 |
| A4Tech | you translate what people write? | 16:58 |
| bazhang | A4Tech, why did those users go into -women and make those comments? and then joke about it as it was happening and afterwards? | 16:59 |
| A4Tech | I myself went out there for one name | 17:00 |
| bazhang | KukMan changing his name to KukWoman as he was asking to be unbanned? | 17:00 |
| A4Tech | Girls and linux strange things:) | 17:00 |
| bazhang | its not funny. | 17:00 |
| A4Tech | I am not talking about kukman | 17:01 |
| bazhang | <A4Tech> Girls and linux strange things:) <--not funny | 17:01 |
| A4Tech | personally for me strange that girls are attracted to linux | 17:02 |
| A4Tech | and for the sake of interest, too, have talked with them | 17:03 |
| Myrtti | personally for me strange that little boys are attracted to linux | 17:03 |
| Myrtti | little boys obviously, since they don't know how to behave | 17:03 |
| A4Tech | Myrtti I am for them not to answer | 17:03 |
| bazhang | right. which I need to take action there. | 17:04 |
| Myrtti | no really, we should all be using Windows | 17:05 |
| Myrtti | Linux is this marginal thing that strange people use | 17:05 |
| Myrtti | it's really ridiculous | 17:05 |
| Myrtti | What does Linux have that Windows doesn't? | 17:05 |
| Myrtti | silly | 17:05 |
| Myrtti | or Macs for that matter! | 17:06 |
| A4Tech | Myrtti I ubuntu in 1000 times better windows | 17:06 |
| Myrtti | A4Tech: feel free to see the light why women are attracted to Linux | 17:07 |
| Myrtti | TADAH! | 17:07 |
| A4Tech | Well, yes, it was good. but for me personally is a great rarity | 17:08 |
| Myrtti | let me put it this way. There's some very precious flowers, that are protected, their place of growth is held as a secret by authorities so nobody goes to gawk at the plant, tear it from the roots, stomp the surroundings and kill the plant | 17:09 |
| Myrtti | beautiful orchids, deep inside rainforests. | 17:09 |
| A4Tech | I hope me something to interest you can go to the channel? certainly not start talking about acquaintance, etc. =) | 17:10 |
| Myrtti | if the plant is left alone, it has a chance to grow, to pollinate, to spread | 17:10 |
| A4Tech | Myrtti oO | 17:11 |
| Myrtti | those who are genuinely intrested, will find their way in, learn about the plant first from books, webpages etc | 17:11 |
| Myrtti | and not go poking in, shouting, jumping, breaking the rules | 17:11 |
| Myrtti | I'm not saying it's forbidden to go look, to talk, to help the plant grow and spread | 17:12 |
| Myrtti | but it has to be done carefully. | 17:12 |
| Myrtti | Sadly, doing it the right way seems to be really really difficult for most | 17:13 |
| A4Tech | You speaker? =) | 17:13 |
| A4Tech | you have a question, as if reading from a sheet =) | 17:14 |
| Myrtti | question? | 17:14 |
| A4Tech | no.. | 17:14 |
| A4Tech | speak | 17:15 |
| A4Tech | fu*ng translate.google.ru =) | 17:15 |
| Myrtti | no, it's not a speech, I'm just trying to explain it to you as simply as I can | 17:16 |
| A4Tech | you get =) | 17:16 |
| A4Tech | If you are using simpler words in his conversation | 17:17 |
| A4Tech | it would be easier to talk:) | 17:17 |
| Myrtti | A4Tech: if you don't know how to speak English, you have no business in #ubuntu-women anyway. | 17:18 |
| Myrtti | A4Tech: it's an English-speaking channel | 17:18 |
| Myrtti | A4Tech: the people there don't want to be treated like animals in a zoo. | 17:18 |
| A4Tech | what in English is itself | 17:19 |
| ^A^kira | Myrtti: excuse me for interruption but... u treat animals in a zoo? Doesn't it mean to do that? O.o | 17:20 |
| Myrtti | ^A^kira: zoo's aren't actually meant to be places for animal exhibition | 17:21 |
| Myrtti | ^A^kira: they're ment to preserve animal species | 17:21 |
| Myrtti | atleast nowadays | 17:21 |
| Myrtti | ^A^kira: treated like animals in a zoo = people come to eat peanuts, point at finger, look at gaged animals | 17:22 |
| Pici | s/gaged/caged/ | 17:22 |
| A4Tech | =))) | 17:22 |
| ^A^kira | huh, thats not treating... thats only a show for a ppl | 17:22 |
| A4Tech | this is all for education first and foremost | 17:22 |
| bazhang | ^A^kira, are you an operator in ubuntu-ru? | 17:23 |
| Myrtti | Pici: thanks, my mom is just calling | 17:23 |
| Myrtti | Pici: she has gotten a CAT... | 17:23 |
| Myrtti | o___O | 17:23 |
| ^A^kira | bazhang: no, im just curious cuz i worried about what happens in thats channel | 17:23 |
| Pici | Myrtti: Guess she can't babysit the cavys anymore then, right? | 17:23 |
| ^A^kira | in ubuntu-ru i mean | 17:24 |
| Myrtti | Pici: they're in their cage anyway | 17:24 |
| bazhang | it seems all of -ru is joining here | 17:25 |
| JMS32 | =) | 17:25 |
| ^A^kira | not all, only who knows english and care about th channel | 17:25 |
| ^A^kira | xD | 17:25 |
| JMS32 | Right =) | 17:25 |
| bazhang | сексуальные домогательства никогда OK | 17:26 |
| ^A^kira | bazhang: huh? | 17:26 |
| A4Tech | bazhang curiosity =) | 17:26 |
| ^A^kira | O.o | 17:26 |
| JMS32 | ты о чем? | 17:26 |
| bazhang | users in -ru | 17:26 |
| ^A^kira | what exactly do u mean when u say "sexual harassment is never good" | 17:28 |
| ^A^kira | ? | 17:28 |
| bazhang | that is what users from -ru were doing. | 17:28 |
| A4Tech | ^A^kira до бап наши добрались) | 17:29 |
| ^A^kira | A4Tech: до их бап? О,о | 17:29 |
| A4Tech | ^A^kira да, до америкосских | 17:29 |
| A4Tech | ^A^kira знакомства секс и т.д. | 17:29 |
| A4Tech | ^A^kira куча народу забанено уже из за этого | 17:30 |
| ^A^kira | bazhang: you know, here is the difference between russian and american mentality (and european) | 17:30 |
| bazhang | does not matter. | 17:30 |
| JMS32 | and? | 17:30 |
| ^A^kira | the stuff u call "sexual harassment" for us it's not more than a small talk | 17:30 |
| bazhang | and that is the problem. | 17:30 |
| Myrtti | it's not a place for small talk! | 17:31 |
| ^A^kira | ofcourse im not speaking about "hey babe lets fu&k"... thats kind of ppl not pleased nevermatter where | 17:31 |
| bazhang | this is NOT about free speech | 17:31 |
| Myrtti | 1) if you don't know English, don't go there | 17:31 |
| A4Tech | bazhang it is simply because we perceive you to another | 17:31 |
| Pici | Different cultures have different expectations, and all of us need to be aware of that. | 17:31 |
| Myrtti | 2) if you don't have anything productive to say there, don't go there | 17:31 |
| ^A^kira | Pici: u right | 17:32 |
| bazhang | dont make those jokes there. | 17:32 |
| bazhang | its not funny. | 17:32 |
| JMS32 | Нашли повод ругаться, блин... | 17:32 |
| [Green] | ниачем | 17:32 |
| JMS32 | Вот и я о том же. | 17:33 |
| ^A^kira | well... my opinion - we should be polite to each other | 17:33 |
| JMS32 | Yes, you are absolutly right. | 17:33 |
| ^A^kira | not to kick/ban every1 just for what they say | 17:33 |
| bazhang | yep | 17:33 |
| ^A^kira | explain ONCE | 17:33 |
| ^A^kira | no need for more | 17:34 |
| bazhang | and that means dont go in there and make that kind of 'small talk' | 17:34 |
| ^A^kira | and if it doesn't help - kill it | 17:34 |
| ^A^kira | err... i mean kick him :) | 17:34 |
| bazhang | it has been explained several times. | 17:34 |
| ^A^kira | bazhang: good for me, i'll pass it for -ru channel | 17:34 |
| bazhang | and immediately after the last time, someone went in there and did just that. | 17:34 |
| bazhang | TODAY | 17:34 |
| Myrtti | it's not a place for small talk. It's a place for making more women to use and to develop Ubuntu | 17:35 |
| Myrtti | and helping them in that | 17:35 |
| Myrtti | by women | 17:35 |
| Myrtti | for women | 17:35 |
| bazhang | and not a place to harass the users. | 17:35 |
| bazhang | and please dont say that you consider that small talk. | 17:35 |
| bazhang | THEY DONT | 17:35 |
| Myrtti | hey, there's a thought | 17:36 |
| ^A^kira | well i didn't see the logs | 17:36 |
| ^A^kira | i just heard stuff from our ppl | 17:36 |
| Myrtti | it's not about the cultural difference of what Russians expect the discussion in IRC to be | 17:36 |
| Myrtti | it's about what the people in the channel in question expect it to be | 17:36 |
| Myrtti | if they say they don't want it there, then they don't. | 17:36 |
| Myrtti | it's not a matter of discussion. | 17:37 |
| ^A^kira | well... u know if u want to make the channel more organized and prevent "harass" u can make it moderated and deVoice the ones who interupts.... but anywhay it's not right to kill line to users | 17:38 |
| ^A^kira | or kick/ban | 17:38 |
| bazhang | that was for repeated ban evading | 17:38 |
| bazhang | zloy | 17:39 |
| LjL | they will kick/ban, don't worry. | 17:39 |
| ^A^kira | im not | 17:39 |
| LjL | on the #ubuntu-ru side, however, #ubuntu-ru as a whole should NOT encourage, suggest, endorse or just keep talking about messing with another channel. | 17:39 |
| Myrtti | ANY channel | 17:39 |
| ^A^kira | and zloy its another story... have nothing to tell for his defence | 17:39 |
| bazhang | he was k-lined | 17:40 |
| bazhang | and that was freenode decision. | 17:40 |
| ^A^kira | bazhang: i heard that not only he was | 17:40 |
| ^A^kira | ? | 17:40 |
| bazhang | who else | 17:40 |
| ^A^kira | that's what im trying to understand now | 17:40 |
| bazhang | kukMan? | 17:40 |
| ^A^kira | .... you killed lined of KukMan too? o.o | 17:41 |
| bazhang | not me. | 17:41 |
| ^A^kira | why? what have he done? | 17:41 |
| bazhang | and I dont know if he was k-lined or not | 17:41 |
| LjL | "we" don't k-line anybody. | 17:41 |
| LjL | freenode does. | 17:41 |
| ^A^kira | well freenode it's not AI u know | 17:42 |
| LjL | we aren't freenode. | 17:42 |
| LjL | we are the ubuntu irc team. | 17:42 |
| bazhang | kukman was part of the original group | 17:42 |
| ^A^kira | i know | 17:42 |
| ^A^kira | well i'll speak with -ru OPs bout' that | 17:42 |
| bazhang | they know | 17:42 |
| ^A^kira | well, ill do it again :) | 17:43 |
| ^A^kira | now plz excuse me, i've got to go | 17:43 |
| Myrtti | thanks | 17:43 |
| ^A^kira | it was nice to talk to you, we'll try to do the best | 17:43 |
| mau_ | так....бан не сняли | 18:42 |
| Escsun | mau_, думаешь снимут спрашуй на скока срок | 18:42 |
| mau_ | я не понял, за чё | 18:43 |
| mau_ | да и вот полный лог | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> #ubuntu-women | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> y? | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> 7 | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> *? | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> я не понял, что ты этим имел ввиду | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> Вы были предупреждены, не идти туда | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> ээ...ну я воспринял как шутку. на сколько бан? | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> я дождусь ответа на вопрос? | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> если Настя предьявит претензию, то согласен на бан. | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> не возвращаться к этому каналу | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> ок | 18:44 |
| Escsun | блин ты мог не сюда( | 18:44 |
| Escsun | ппц | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> KukMan, polatov, zloy | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> +b | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> you can /join #ubuntu-ru | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <bazhang> you are -b now | 18:44 |
| mau_ | <mau_> спасибо | 18:44 |
| mau_ | * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:44 |
| mau_ | 18:44 | |
| mau_ | * Загружен протокол от Fri Dec 5 15:38:38 2008 | 18:44 |
| mau_ | мм | 18:44 |
| mau_ | прошу обратить внимание на это : <mau_> <bazhang> Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> <mau_> если Настя предьявит претензию, то согласен на бан. | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> <bazhang> не возвращаться к этому каналу | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> <mau_> ок | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> * [bazhang] недоступен (I'm busy) | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> <bazhang> KukMan, polatov, zloy | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> <bazhang> +b | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <mau_> <bazhang> you can /join #ubuntu-ru | 18:45 |
| mau_ | <Escsun> да, я знаю, что такое пестебин) | 18:45 |
| Escsun | ппц | 18:46 |
| Escsun | ты знаешь скока на флудил здесь? | 18:46 |
| LjL | what the | 18:46 |
| LjL | !pastebin | 18:46 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 18:46 |
| mau_ | <Myrtti> it's not about the cultural difference of what Russians expect the discussion in IRC to be | 18:47 |
| mau_ | <Myrtti> 1) if you don't know English, don't go there | 18:47 |
| Myrtti | LOL WHAT? | 18:47 |
| mau_ | нацизм?" | 18:47 |
| Myrtti | why are you pasting that here? | 18:48 |
| Myrtti | http://paste.ubuntu.com | 18:48 |
| Myrtti | kthxplz | 18:48 |
| Pici | mau_: The Ubuntu channels have rules, don't expect free speech everywhere. | 18:48 |
| mau_ | <Myrtti> its not a english net | 18:48 |
| Myrtti | mau_: #ubuntu-women is English only channel | 18:49 |
| Pici | Just like #ubuntu is an english only channel. | 18:49 |
| mau_ | <Pici> those topic must worning users | 18:50 |
| mau_ | <Pici> what about #ubuntu-ru?? | 18:50 |
| Pici | mau_: *I* know thats a russian channel because of the country code. | 18:51 |
| Myrtti | [20:51] [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-women] Welcome to Ubuntu Women. Please read our guidelines for use of this channel: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/IrcGuidelines | 18:51 |
| Myrtti | English, please | 18:52 |
| Myrtti | * | 18:52 |
| Myrtti | #ubuntu-women is an English language channel. If you speak in another language in #ubuntu-women, you will be redirected to the appropriate Ubuntu channels in other languages. | 18:52 |
| Pici | "#ubuntu-women is an English language channel. If you speak in another language in #ubuntu-women, you will be redirected to the appropriate Ubuntu channels in other languages. " | 18:52 |
| Pici | That too | 18:52 |
| Myrtti | that's what the chanserv gives when you join the channel | 18:52 |
| Pici | #ubuntu has a similar message in their topic and guidelines. | 18:52 |
| mau_ | <Pici> why i had been baned on #ubuntu-ru? | 18:52 |
| mau_ | #ubuntu-ru is a sister-chanel of #ubuntu-women???? | 18:53 |
| Pici | mau_: I think we got confused here, nevermind me. | 18:53 |
| Myrtti | I doubt Pici knows the answer since he's not an op there | 18:53 |
| Myrtti | mau_: 20:54] [freenode] ~~~ channels : #ubuntu-irc #ubuntu-ru-offtopic #ubuntu-ru | 18:54 |
| Myrtti | you don't seem to be banned? | 18:54 |
| mau_ | #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel | 18:54 |
| Myrtti | I don't know then... | 18:55 |
| Myrtti | *shrug* | 18:55 |
| LjL | is muted | 18:55 |
| Myrtti | probably yes | 18:55 |
| mau_ | ? | 18:56 |
| LjL | no not probably, is | 18:56 |
| Myrtti | LjL: I wouldn't know, I'm not on the channel... ;-) | 18:56 |
| LjL | Myrtti: /mode #ubuntu-ru b | 18:56 |
| Myrtti | wow | 18:56 |
| Myrtti | learn something new every day | 18:57 |
| Myrtti | or in my case, two new things | 19:00 |
| A4Tech | as a conversation? | 19:02 |
| Myrtti | ... ? | 19:02 |
| A4Tech | Oh, you look ban list? :) | 19:04 |
| Myrtti | didn't know you can look at it while not being on the channel | 19:05 |
| Myrtti | the other new thing I learned was that only blind can be official massagists in South Korea. | 19:06 |
| A4Tech | massagists is what? | 19:06 |
| Myrtti | массажистка | 19:08 |
| A4Tech | but what you have said? -- "the other new thing I learned was that only blind can be official massagists in South Korea." | 19:09 |
| Myrtti | just for... | 19:13 |
| Myrtti | ok | 19:13 |
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