[03:11] Hello? [03:15] Can someone PLEASE help meh? === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [05:38] Halå varför banna mig i ubuntu-se ? === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik [10:12] i am sorry [10:12] polatov, #ubuntu-women ??? [10:12] what are you up to again? [10:12] but [10:12] no but [10:13] you were warned not to go there [10:13] do you spek russian? [10:13] yes [10:13] can i speak on russian? [10:13] yes [10:13] я не призывал чтобы все шли туда [10:14] я сказал что ubuntu становится mainstream [10:14] Nastya сказала, что mainstream это когда женщины будут пользоваться ubuntu [10:14] ясказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women [10:14] я сказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women [10:15] it is all [10:15] Вы были предупреждены, не идти туда [10:15] bazhang, я не ходил туда! [10:15] посмотрите logs [10:15] we have a web page you know [10:15] you need not to mention the channel [10:15] polatov, I can read russian. [10:16] Myrtti, look logs please [10:16] polatov: [12:14] < polatov> я сказал что уже есть канал ubuntu-women [10:16] bazhang, я не ходил на этот канал, был там только один раз [10:16] you don't need to mention the #ubuntu-women channel [10:16] we have webpages [10:17] polatov, dont go there, dont talk about others going there. [10:17] bazhang, ok [10:17] but why i can not speak about this channel? [10:17] не туда [10:18] what is "mention"? [10:18] polatov, i think Myrtti want you to go read website, rather than talk about bad things in irc [10:18] не собираюсь говорить о там [10:18] if you do, that is +b [10:18] я не говорил bads things! [10:19] я не говорил bad things! [10:19] не претендую. Вы плохие вещи перед [10:19] я говорил что linux становится очень популярным, и это очень плохо! [10:20] пользователь Nastya сказала, что он еще не такой популярный, потому что мало женщин его используют [10:20] У вас нет оснований ехать туда никогда. [10:20] bazhang, я не ходил туда! [10:20] я сказал пользователю Nastya что уже есть женский канал! [10:21] вы меня не понимаете! ((( [10:21] сексуальные домогательства никогда OK [10:21] you don't understand me! [10:21] I do. [10:21] You [10:21] KukMan [10:21] Zloy [10:21] bazhang, я не домогался сексуально! [10:21] почему вы такое говорите?! [10:22] единственное за что вы меня можете to ban - только за flood [10:22] Вы думаете это смешно шутить. [10:22] i am flood - it is so [10:22] bazhang, я не шучу! [10:22] ok [10:22] you can not unban me? [10:23] женщины там не думаю, что это забавно и приятно. [10:23] bazhang, когда меня предупредили, я не заходил на тот канал [10:23] разве это не так?! [10:23] они ненавидят его. [10:24] bazhang, ответьте на мой вопрос пожалуйста [10:24] разве я заходил на женский канал второй раз? [10:25] Вы zloy и kukman думаю, что это смешно, чтобы перейти туда. [10:25] bazhang, разве я заходил на женский канал второй раз? [10:26] Это не смешно. Не на всех. [10:26] bazhang, please [10:26] KukMan находится рядом. [10:26] say me [10:26] zloy +b [10:26] you +b [10:27] KukMan soon +b [10:27] i was on women channel second time? [10:27] mau_ +b [10:27] everyone who goes there will be +b [10:28] dont go there. [10:28] i don't want to be on that channel [10:28] YOU have NO reason to go there, ever. [10:28] i dont say bad things about that channel [10:28] dont talk about that channel [10:28] polatov: don't say about it at all [10:29] polatov: we have webpages [10:29] http://ubuntu-women.org/ [10:29] i saidbad things about all linux distro!!!! [10:29] if you are discussing about ubuntu and women, use that link [10:29] не говорим о том, что канал [10:29] Nastya ask me - why? [10:29] i said [10:29] you don't need to say a thing about #ubuntu-women irc channel [10:30] you can private message her. [10:30] "because it is mainstream" [10:30] сексуальные домогательства не OK [10:30] nastya said me [10:31] говорят анекдоты о сексе не OK [10:31] mainstream will be if linux use women [10:31] that is +b [10:31] polatov, saying bad things breaks code of conduct. [10:31] !codeofconduct [10:31] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [10:31] polatov, stop now. [10:31] i said we have women channel [10:32] why?! [10:32] you don't need to say it [10:32] -ru-women [10:32] Myrtti, why? where is rules? [10:32] that rule?!! [10:33] не спорить об этом [10:33] +b will be longer. [10:33] where is that rule where written about women-channel [10:33] bazhang, OK [10:33] polatov, stop. [10:33] dont argue about this any more. [10:33] я не буду об этом спорить [10:34] я не буду говорить об этом канале даже своей маме [10:34] polatov: this not a rule [10:34] polatov: it's a polite request [10:34] polatov: please do not mention #ubuntu-women on any channels. [10:34] but i think your ban it is not right [10:34] polatov: if someone wants to join the channel, they'll find it themself [10:34] Myrtti, what is "mention"? [10:34] Это особая ситуация, потому что от сексуальных домогательств [10:35] bazhang, я понял, я согласен. это правильно [10:35] polatov: упомянуть [10:35] bazhang, но прежде чем to ban me, вы должны были меня предупредить, чтобы я не говорил об этом канале [10:36] Myrtti, thank you [10:36] --> bbl [10:36] Myrtti, bbl? [10:37] be back later [10:37] and what about me? [10:39] не возвращаться к этому каналу [10:39] bazhang, и не говорить, правильно? [10:39] никогда туда [10:39] no. [10:40] #ubuntu-women [10:40] and dont talk about women-channel [10:40] correct [10:40] OK [10:40] no problem [10:40] tell them DONT GO THERE [10:40] or will be +b [10:40] bazhang, ok [10:41] but you when you banned me [10:41] it was not right ( [10:41] не было предупреждение [10:41] bazhang, i am tell them DONT GO THERE [10:41] Вы понимаете полностью сейчас? [10:41] no problem [10:42] bazhang, yes [10:42] i am understand you [10:42] now [10:42] не недоразумение? [10:42] you go there = +b [10:43] yes [10:43] OK [10:43] последний шанс [10:43] stop! [10:43] please [10:43] next time is no -b [10:44] i am sorry, but i think [10:44] your ban is not correctly [10:44] your must to ПРЕДУПРЕДИТЬ me, then ban [10:45] Я даю вам последний шанс. [10:45] bazhang, я считаю вы не правы [10:45] вы говорите как Stalin [10:46] После этого, постоянные [10:46] no. [10:46] now is last chance. [10:46] any more problems after now, is permanent. [10:46] bazhang, я обещаю не говорить об этом канале [10:46] не говорить плохо об этом канале, etc [10:47] я обещаю вести себя как good boy [10:47] но это не правильно "last chance" [10:47] это нарушает мои права [10:47] ok [10:47] нельзя так говорить [10:48] you are now able to /join [10:48] можно быть ВЕЖЛИВЫМ [10:48] спасибо [10:48] thank you === _jason is now known as jrib === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:57] <[NikO]> LjL, ping :) [15:42] [NikO]: pong [15:42] <[NikO]> LjL, sorry for hl ... [16:03] kennethgt: i know who magicfab is. i'm just saying that typing "/whois magicfab" will show that he's online [16:03] typing "/whois magicfab magicfab" will also show that he's currently active [16:04] and typing "/query magicfab" will let you send messages to him [16:04] no need to ask in #ubuntu whether someone has seen him [16:04] LjL, thanks [16:05] LjL, excuse the inconvenience [16:05] no problem [16:07] I feel so old and addicted to IRC [16:12] Escsun, _kamaz_ was in #ubuntu-women today, after being told not to go there [16:13] Escsun, he was warned that it would be +b if he did so [16:13] bazhang, aaa ban kamaz ? [16:14] bazhang, -> _kamaz_2 [16:14] Вы были предупреждены, не пойти на этот канал. _kamaz_2 [16:15] _kamaz_ (n=faraonxg@91.196.7.26) has joined #ubuntu-women [16:15] <_kamaz_> Здравствуйте о прекрасная половина человечества!!!! [16:15] <_kamaz_> эээ.......меня кто нибудь слышит? [16:16] <_kamaz_2> этого нельзя было делать? [16:16] _kamaz_2, он по англиски говорит [16:16] после того, как я предупреждал вас не идти [16:17] одна неделя + B [16:17] <_kamaz_2> не помню чтобы меня ктото предупреждал, но если это было запрещено то извиняюсь [16:18] видеть вас на следующей неделе. мы можем говорить в то время. [16:18] bazhang, но извенился так что прости ему ... [16:19] lol [16:19] Escsun, anyone enters that channel is +b [16:19] <_kamaz_2> ребят, да что я плохого сделал??? я никого не оскорбил, не обидел [16:19] bazhang, a ... [16:20] _kamaz_2, видеть вас на следующей неделе [16:20] <_kamaz_2> ну на первый раз то можно же простить [16:23] hm.. And what I miss? [16:23] :) [16:24] =) [16:24] A4Tech, _kamaz_2 and all the rest were warned not to go into #ubuntu-women and harass the users there. [16:25] A4Tech, but he did so anyway. [16:25] A4Tech, it is a one week ban. [16:25] understand [16:29] ругом. [16:29] mau_ дело в том, что недавно был инцендент [16:30] и теперь лучше туда не заходить :) [16:30] mau_, тот канал для девушек (#ubuntu-women) ,а так как там строго тока девушки туда и не надо даже заходить [16:30] а не девушкам-ли решать, кому заходить, кому нет?? [16:31] или в этой сети насратьт на общие правила ирк? [16:31] mau_ объясни это бажангу [16:31] mau_, в каждом канале есть свои правила [16:31] это ясно. [16:32] вот как ему обьяснить, если он не говорит на русском? [16:32] mau_, по англиски [16:32] и почему он оператор на русском канале? [16:33] а если я не знаю английского на таком уровне? как, впрочем, большинство канала #ubuntu-ru [16:33] mau_ так [16:33] теперь слушай что я те говорю [16:33] и не перебивай [16:33] 1. это канал девушек [16:34] 2. недавно туда заходили люди и спамили [16:34] 3. некоторые получили бан на всем фриноде [16:34] 4. туда часто шляются спамить [16:34] 5. туда часто шляются спамить и не только туда именно блин с нашего канала [16:35] 6. поэтому администрация фриноды сделаит на нашим каналом [16:35] 7. не стоит спорить с ними [16:35] повтори 6ой пункт... [16:36] следит [16:36] ) [16:36] ок =) [16:38] понял, в чём виноват был я, когда схватил бан без предупреждения? Почему нет предупреждения в топиках обоих каналов?? Почему меня банит человек, который не разобрался в ситуации, но мотивирует это 'сэксуальным домогательством', хотя я, зайдя на канал, ни [16:38] слова не написал и вышел?? Почему бан я не могу писать в канал, хотя бан снят, но * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel (с) ? [16:38] бан на убунту ру не снят) [16:39] you can /join #ubuntu-ru [16:39] you are -b now [16:39] спасибо [16:39] из лога [16:40] бан - не снят [16:40] а как обьяснить лог тогда?? [16:40] bazhang, you not unban mau_ [16:40] A4Tech, yes I did [16:41] A4Tech, he is in there now. [16:41] bazhang why is it I said that you removed? [16:41] A4Tech, he did not know the situation. [16:41] A4Tech, so it was my error. [16:42] A4Tech, he did not spam there. [16:42] ладно, разбирайтесь сами.. [16:43] question is we want create channel 'ubuntu-blackjack-and-hookers [16:43] bandzai_, Let us agree with you that in such cases will call me rather than the court itself [16:44] still it is Russian channel [16:44] oh... sorry [16:44] bazhang ^ [16:44] A4Tech, call you? you were not around. [16:45] I did not have the channel? [16:45] you were not in the channel at that time, no. [16:45] there were NO operators in that channel except me. [16:46] going into -women and spamming/making sex jokes is NEVER ok. [16:46] and the users in -ru need to understand this clearly. [16:48] сексуальные домогательства никогда OK [16:48] Well then for the future, the first thing to call me or anyone out of the operators of the channel, we do explain that they do. I think your task in the event of a conflict ban them on the channel where they behave badly, and then tell us [16:48] bazhang I understand you [16:48] I am not an operator in -women [16:48] I am in -ru [16:49] they have been told several times not to do that. [16:49] Then call gary [16:50] zloy, and KuKman think it is a funny joke still. [16:50] and that they did nothing wrong. [16:50] Yes, they understand [16:50] polatov has agreed not to return, and understands what he did is wrong. [16:50] no. [16:50] they are still talking like it is a funny joke. [16:51] but not on our same channel [16:51] to solve problems where they are [16:51] no, using an #ubuntu* channel for harassing another channel is not acceptable. the operators of that channel must make that very clear. [16:53] understand, I do not like the operator of all channels [16:53] A4Tech, the problems are from -ru; they have not been taken care of there. [16:53] it happened again TODAY. [16:53] это не приемлемо для использования Ubuntu канал преследовать другого канала. Это является обязанностью операторов, чтобы остановить, что поведение, когда они заметили. [16:54] after repeated warnings. [16:55] [16:55] just if people on our channel behaves correctly, I do not see the logic block it wherever we can [16:55] if people on your channel talk about trolling another channel, that must be stopped. [16:56] stop it where it violates rules [16:56] in -ru [16:56] that is where it violates rules. [16:56] I prevent breaches on the canal ubuntu-ru [16:56] saying [16:56] planning on attacking another channel comes from -ru [16:56] "let's go troll another channel" [16:57] violates rules. [16:57] A4Tech, planning in -ru is a breach in -ru [16:57] bazhang I have these people immediately blocked [16:58] where you have the information that the zone ru in the entire blame? [16:58] you translate what people write? [16:59] A4Tech, why did those users go into -women and make those comments? and then joke about it as it was happening and afterwards? [17:00] I myself went out there for one name [17:00] KukMan changing his name to KukWoman as he was asking to be unbanned? [17:00] Girls and linux strange things:) [17:00] its not funny. [17:01] I am not talking about kukman [17:01] Girls and linux strange things:) <--not funny [17:02] personally for me strange that girls are attracted to linux [17:03] and for the sake of interest, too, have talked with them [17:03] personally for me strange that little boys are attracted to linux [17:03] little boys obviously, since they don't know how to behave [17:03] Myrtti I am for them not to answer [17:04] right. which I need to take action there. [17:05] no really, we should all be using Windows [17:05] Linux is this marginal thing that strange people use [17:05] it's really ridiculous [17:05] What does Linux have that Windows doesn't? [17:05] silly [17:06] or Macs for that matter! [17:06] Myrtti I ubuntu in 1000 times better windows [17:07] A4Tech: feel free to see the light why women are attracted to Linux [17:07] TADAH! [17:08] Well, yes, it was good. but for me personally is a great rarity [17:09] let me put it this way. There's some very precious flowers, that are protected, their place of growth is held as a secret by authorities so nobody goes to gawk at the plant, tear it from the roots, stomp the surroundings and kill the plant [17:09] beautiful orchids, deep inside rainforests. [17:10] I hope me something to interest you can go to the channel? certainly not start talking about acquaintance, etc. =) [17:10] if the plant is left alone, it has a chance to grow, to pollinate, to spread [17:11] Myrtti oO [17:11] those who are genuinely intrested, will find their way in, learn about the plant first from books, webpages etc [17:11] and not go poking in, shouting, jumping, breaking the rules [17:12] I'm not saying it's forbidden to go look, to talk, to help the plant grow and spread [17:12] but it has to be done carefully. [17:13] Sadly, doing it the right way seems to be really really difficult for most [17:13] You speaker? =) [17:14] you have a question, as if reading from a sheet =) [17:14] question? [17:14] no.. [17:15] speak [17:15] fu*ng translate.google.ru =) [17:16] no, it's not a speech, I'm just trying to explain it to you as simply as I can [17:16] you get =) [17:17] If you are using simpler words in his conversation [17:17] it would be easier to talk:) [17:18] A4Tech: if you don't know how to speak English, you have no business in #ubuntu-women anyway. [17:18] A4Tech: it's an English-speaking channel [17:18] A4Tech: the people there don't want to be treated like animals in a zoo. [17:19] what in English is itself [17:20] <^A^kira> Myrtti: excuse me for interruption but... u treat animals in a zoo? Doesn't it mean to do that? O.o [17:21] ^A^kira: zoo's aren't actually meant to be places for animal exhibition [17:21] ^A^kira: they're ment to preserve animal species [17:21] atleast nowadays [17:22] ^A^kira: treated like animals in a zoo = people come to eat peanuts, point at finger, look at gaged animals [17:22] s/gaged/caged/ [17:22] =))) [17:22] <^A^kira> huh, thats not treating... thats only a show for a ppl [17:22] this is all for education first and foremost [17:23] ^A^kira, are you an operator in ubuntu-ru? [17:23] Pici: thanks, my mom is just calling [17:23] Pici: she has gotten a CAT... [17:23] o___O [17:23] <^A^kira> bazhang: no, im just curious cuz i worried about what happens in thats channel [17:23] Myrtti: Guess she can't babysit the cavys anymore then, right? [17:24] <^A^kira> in ubuntu-ru i mean [17:24] Pici: they're in their cage anyway [17:25] it seems all of -ru is joining here [17:25] =) [17:25] <^A^kira> not all, only who knows english and care about th channel [17:25] <^A^kira> xD [17:25] Right =) [17:26] сексуальные домогательства никогда OK [17:26] <^A^kira> bazhang: huh? [17:26] bazhang curiosity =) [17:26] <^A^kira> O.o [17:26] ты о чем? [17:26] users in -ru [17:28] <^A^kira> what exactly do u mean when u say "sexual harassment is never good" [17:28] <^A^kira> ? [17:28] that is what users from -ru were doing. [17:29] ^A^kira до бап наши добрались) [17:29] <^A^kira> A4Tech: до их бап? О,о [17:29] ^A^kira да, до америкосских [17:29] ^A^kira знакомства секс и т.д. [17:30] ^A^kira куча народу забанено уже из за этого [17:30] <^A^kira> bazhang: you know, here is the difference between russian and american mentality (and european) [17:30] does not matter. [17:30] and? [17:30] <^A^kira> the stuff u call "sexual harassment" for us it's not more than a small talk [17:30] and that is the problem. [17:31] it's not a place for small talk! [17:31] <^A^kira> ofcourse im not speaking about "hey babe lets fu&k"... thats kind of ppl not pleased nevermatter where [17:31] this is NOT about free speech [17:31] 1) if you don't know English, don't go there [17:31] bazhang it is simply because we perceive you to another [17:31] Different cultures have different expectations, and all of us need to be aware of that. [17:31] 2) if you don't have anything productive to say there, don't go there [17:32] <^A^kira> Pici: u right [17:32] dont make those jokes there. [17:32] its not funny. [17:32] Нашли повод ругаться, блин... [17:32] <[Green]> ниачем [17:33]