[17:09] <Gregorio> hello, hope I'm not interrupting a meeting, just found a reference to this channel on your wiki/launchpad and have a question
[17:09] <Gregorio> does anyone know what channel, web page, e-mail list etc would get me started researching web services plan (aka webplications :-) in Ubuntu?
[17:10] <Gregorio> no hits so far on my searches... so any pointers to Blueprints or other docs greatly appreciated
[19:37] <Seveas> anyone here for the EMEA meeting already?
[19:52] <PriceChild> I 'may' be available for EMEA meeting for another 55 minutes however I can't be counted on as I mentioned on ML/planner.
[19:53] <forumsmatthew> Hopefully it will be quick. Anyway, I'm here.
[19:53] <Seveas> I don't see any of the candidates yet, so it might be *very* quick :)
[19:53] <forumsmatthew> :)
[19:54] <forumsmatthew> It's a tough time of year to get things done.
[19:54] <Seveas> it's the most wonderful time of the year
[19:54] <forumsmatthew> agreed
[19:54]  * Seveas bought his christmaspresents early this year
[19:55] <Seveas> tv was dying, so bought a nice full hd 60cm flatscreen \o/
[19:55] <forumsmatthew> nice!
[19:55] <Seveas> 1920x1200 if you attach a computer
[19:55] <PriceChild> jealous
[19:55] <Seveas> built in dvb-t tuner
[19:55]  * Seveas is in his geeky place :)
[19:55] <PriceChild> no idea what i'm going to get people :(
[19:56] <forumsmatthew> I'm building a play fort in my yard for my kids
[19:56] <forumsmatthew> ladder, climbing wall, slide, swings
[19:56] <Seveas> awesome
[19:57] <Seveas> can I come play? :)
[19:57] <forumsmatthew> anytime you like :)
[19:57] <PriceChild> yeah, nevermind "for my kids"
[19:58] <forumsmatthew> the floor of the platform is about 2 meters off the ground, so "climbing wall" is probably overstating the case, unless you are young or small
[19:58] <Seveas> who cares :)
[20:01] <Seveas> wanna hear something ironic?
[20:01] <forumsmatthew> yes
[20:01] <Seveas> perl is one of the languages I like least
[20:01] <Seveas> but now I'm sysadmin for the boxes behind perl5.git.perl.org
[20:02] <Seveas> irony in a nutshell :)
[20:02] <forumsmatthew> wow!
[20:02]  * stgraber waves
[20:02]  * forumsmatthew waves back
[20:02] <Seveas> hi stgraber
[20:02] <stgraber> I'll have to leave in an hour
[20:02] <Seveas> none of the candidates have shown up yet
[20:03] <Seveas> let's give them 10 more minutes before calling it a loss :)
[20:03] <forumsmatthew> +1
[20:03] <stgraber> ok
[20:03] <forumsmatthew> dxter emailed, so we know where he is. Any of the others contact anyone?
[20:04] <phanatic> nope
[20:04] <Seveas> didn't see any mail either
[20:10] <munckfish> Hi sorry I'm late
[20:10] <forumsmatthew> good timing, we were just about to call the meeting
[20:10] <Seveas> munckfish, you're actually the first one to show up and just in time :)
[20:10] <munckfish> Oh good, I just got home now :S
[20:10] <Seveas> stgraber, phanatic PriceChild
[20:10] <Seveas> we've got one!
[20:10] <phanatic> great :)
[20:11] <Seveas> munckfish, can you introduce yourself in a few lines please?
[20:11] <munckfish> Sure
[20:12] <munckfish> My contribution has mostly been in getting the PS3 version running again
[20:12] <munckfish> I installed gutsy on it first
[20:12] <munckfish> then found out it was dead on Hardy and decided to help out
[20:12] <munckfish> Colin W, the kernel team and others have been sponsoring patches for me
[20:13] <munckfish> X team too. That's about it really.
[20:13] <munckfish> Will that do?
[20:13] <PriceChild> munckfish: is there any reason why you decided to go for ubuntu membership rather than ubuntu contributing developer?
[20:13] <munckfish> Yes
[20:13] <munckfish> 2 reasons
[20:13] <munckfish> 1, gouki advised I should do it
[20:14] <munckfish> 2, reading the wiki, it advised to become a member first, then proceed to MOTU
[20:14] <Seveas> which page is that? seems to be outdated
[20:14] <munckfish> Oh, I'll look for it
[20:14] <munckfish> unless I misunderstood
[20:14] <Seveas> the 'proper' way to MOTU is via ubuntu contributing developer etc.
[20:15] <stgraber> you can now become an ubuntu member based on your packaging work, then you can become a MOTU. There are now many ways to get Ubuntu membership
[20:15] <munckfish> Which means ... roughly what I've been doing?
[20:15] <Seveas> but I see a problem with that: you're fixing things mostly in main instead of universe :)
[20:15] <stgraber> the local councils are only one way, mainly used when doing something else than packaging work
[20:15] <Seveas> munckfish, roughly but not quite
[20:15] <Seveas> however, I'm quite impressed with the work I see
[20:15] <munckfish> Seveas: thx
[20:15] <Seveas> maintaining a port virtually on your own is not easy
[20:16] <munckfish> Seveas: but very interesting
[20:16] <Seveas> what is the contribution you're most proud of?
[20:16] <munckfish> and hopefully not solo for the next cycle
[20:16] <stgraber> anyway, it also shows quite a lot of QA work outside of simply packaging work so I'm fine with dealing with that application
[20:16]  * PriceChild notes top contributors on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ps3-port
[20:17] <munckfish> Seveas: it's difficult to say, my contributions have really been lots of small fixes which as whole have made it work again
[20:17] <Seveas> fair enough
[20:17] <PriceChild> uu scottish
[20:17] <munckfish> I'm proud of the whole lot, but I'm really proud of having the opportunity to contribute to core core stuff like X and the kernel
[20:18] <Seveas> +1 from me, good work and I don't doubt the good work will continue
[20:18] <forumsmatthew> I have to say, I'm impressed and feeling really good about this
[20:18] <forumsmatthew> +1
[20:18] <stgraber> +1
[20:18] <munckfish> PriceChild: no, adopted scottish, I'm from Hampshire/Southampton
[20:18] <PriceChild> munckfish: not that that interests me me more than the real reason you're here!
[20:18] <munckfish> PriceChild: :)
[20:18] <PriceChild> +1 from me too!
[20:19] <Seveas> if he were a real scotsman, would you have said -1? :P
[20:19] <Seveas> phanatic, your vote please
[20:19] <phanatic> +1 of course. i hope you'll get more help during next cycle!
[20:19] <Seveas> so thats +5, welcome in the club :)
[20:19] <munckfish> Thanks guys
[20:19] <forumsmatthew> congratulations!
[20:20] <munckfish> Wahaaaay!
[20:20] <phanatic> welcome munckfish :)
[20:20] <Seveas> added in LP
[20:21] <Seveas> end of meeting, see you in a few weeks :)
[20:21] <munckfish> Any advice for the optimal route to MOTU from here? I think I need to get some solid time doing new packaging maybe?
[20:21] <PriceChild> munckfish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU#So%20you%20want%20to%20be%20a%20MOTU?
[20:21] <Seveas> /join #ubuntu-motu
[20:21] <Seveas> :)
[20:21] <munckfish> PriceChild: yeah I'll take a look, just wasn't sure I was following the traditional route so far
[20:21] <PriceChild> that too
[20:22] <munckfish> Great thanks guys