| mneptok | genii: bad idea with Mez. her prefers the desalinated tears of nubile virgins. | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| genii | Might be difficult to find enough of those to quench a thirst... | 00:11 |
| mneptok | exaaaactly | 00:31 |
| JeremyE | Hi | 00:59 |
| JeremyE | LJL? | 00:59 |
| JeremyE | You there? | 00:59 |
| Flannel | Oh, that guy. | 01:00 |
| LjL | no i'm not | 01:05 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, __mikem said: !stallman is alias <reply>Toolbag! | 01:18 |
| genii | Hm | 01:18 |
| * mneptok is dealing | 01:19 | |
| genii | Cards, I hope | 01:21 |
| mneptok | with __mikem | 01:22 |
| bazhang | nice | 01:24 |
| stdin | genii: you need to identify | 01:32 |
| genii | stdin: Thanks. I wonder what happened there. | 01:33 |
| genii | jussio1: Restarting core or so? | 01:34 |
| stdin | I'm guessing it happened when the connection timed out | 01:34 |
| stdin | [00:37]* genii has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | 01:34 |
| stdin | [00:39]* genii (n=genii@oul110-gw10.netplaza.fi) has joined #ubuntu-ops | 01:34 |
| genii | stdin: Yes, looks like his quassel core some issue then | 01:34 |
| stdin | wouldn't be any fun without a few bugs to squish | 01:35 |
| stdin | although, it identified for jussio1 when it reconnected | 01:36 |
| genii | Yes, weird | 01:36 |
| stdin | how do you set it to identify? | 01:36 |
| genii | stdin: Similar method as Konv | 01:38 |
| stdin | it's probably better to put the nickserv password as the server password | 01:39 |
| stdin | the client is probably not sending the message when it reconnects | 01:39 |
| genii | I'll look into it's settings there | 01:39 |
| bazhang | weekend has arrived early | 01:40 |
| bazhang | * [e^2pi] (n=faryshta@189.145.197.229): Angel Guevara | 01:56 |
| bazhang | <e^2pi> sandwich=menaige a trois? | 01:56 |
| jdong | can't even spell it right.... | 01:57 |
| bazhang | that channel needs to be cleaned out. | 01:57 |
| bazhang | much like the augean stables | 01:58 |
| * mneptok diverts the St. Lawrence | 03:01 | |
| * jussio1 waves | 03:08 | |
| * genii wobbles | 03:08 | |
| * mneptok cacks up a furball | 03:09 | |
| jussio1 | genii: so did you get the identify thing sorted? | 03:14 |
| mneptok | jussio1: in the future, please ask before prodding my furballs with sticks. i may not be finished with that. thanks. | 03:15 |
| mneptok | O:) | 03:15 |
| jussio1 | mneptok: I always thought you were mad, now Im certain... | 03:16 |
| * mneptok beeps incessantly | 03:17 | |
| Jack_Sparrow | Second time this hour with this in ubuntu.. http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=303558 | 03:42 |
| ubottu | Pnux called the ops in #ubuntu () | 03:54 |
| === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 | ||
| Flannel | elkbuntu: How embarassing | 07:38 |
| elkbuntu | Flannel, yes. | 07:38 |
| Flannel | looks like john crawford did the physical adding. version 31, 10-25 | 07:39 |
| Flannel | but, That likely didn't come from him, as its in a whole slew of additions, etc. Wonder what ML they use | 07:39 |
| elkbuntu | it says at the bottom | 07:40 |
| Flannel | Yeah, it doesn't have much info though, I guess I'll check the ideas page info | 07:40 |
| Flannel | Not there. | 07:41 |
| Flannel | ah, -news-team | 07:41 |
| elkbuntu | i'm going to mail a complaint about inappropriateness to there | 07:41 |
| Flannel | Hmmm, I don't see any originl mention on that ML. But I'll keep looking (at least, not with subject searches) | 07:42 |
| elkbuntu | it'll at least get to the right places | 07:43 |
| === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant | ||
| Flannel | 30 seconds lag? | 08:42 |
| elkbuntu | oh crap. i think i cant get my s key back on... | 08:55 |
| Myrtti | can I reboot the universe somehow? | 09:04 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, i wish. | 09:06 |
| elkbuntu | yay, i fixeded my s key | 09:06 |
| Flannel | Myrtti: did you upgrade its kernel? | 09:10 |
| Myrtti | Flannel: I was just hoping some settings would reset | 09:10 |
| Flannel | Myrtti: which ones? | 09:12 |
| Myrtti | the ones that make my life constant misery | 09:13 |
| elkbuntu | the stupidity quotient | 09:13 |
| Myrtti | like yesterday | 09:13 |
| Myrtti | I can't mull in this enough | 09:13 |
| Myrtti | it feels too good to curse with a good reason for a while | 09:13 |
| Myrtti | http://myrtti.jaiku.com/presence/50050778 | 09:13 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, when is your flickr due? | 09:18 |
| Myrtti | "You have a Flickr Pro Account. It expires on 19th December, 2008." | 09:19 |
| Myrtti | I was going to write a "Dear Santa" letter anyway... | 09:19 |
| Myrtti | I guess I should write it now | 09:19 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, you deserve a xmas pressie from me. | 09:19 |
| Myrtti | :-o | 09:20 |
| elkbuntu | now, how do i buy flickr voucher things? | 09:20 |
| elkbuntu | up off the floor girl | 09:21 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, i'm assuming gifts can be used for renewals, yes? | 09:24 |
| Myrtti | well... yes. | 09:25 |
| * Myrtti pokes jussi01 with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™ | 09:29 | |
| Myrtti | *SQUEEEAK* | 09:29 |
| * elkbuntu waits for the email. | 09:30 | |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, your nick at your domain? | 09:33 |
| Myrtti | should work, aswell as @ubuntu | 09:34 |
| Stratton | Does anyone know why the name 'anandjones' is banned? | 09:35 |
| elkbuntu | because there was a person using it who was harrassing users. | 09:36 |
| Stratton | hmm | 09:36 |
| elkbuntu | is it some obscure pop reference or something? | 09:36 |
| Stratton | my friend uses the nick as well | 09:36 |
| Flannel | If its obscure, is it really a pop reference? | 09:36 |
| elkbuntu | Flannel, obscure to me, pop to someone? | 09:37 |
| Flannel | elkbuntu: I don't see it in the bt, am I... blind? | 09:37 |
| * Myrtti sees it neither | 09:37 | |
| Stratton | I'll ask him what is actually banned | 09:37 |
| Flannel | Stratton: you can have them join this channel, that'd be easiest and fastest | 09:37 |
| Stratton | kk | 09:37 |
| Myrtti | we usually don't do by proxy unbanning | 09:38 |
| Myrtti | nice to talk to the actual person | 09:38 |
| Stratton | Hey | 09:39 |
| anandjones | hi | 09:39 |
| elkbuntu | Stratton, what channel is this person banned from? | 09:39 |
| Flannel | elkbuntu: check realname | 09:39 |
| elkbuntu | anandjones, what channel were you trying to enter? | 09:39 |
| Stratton | #ubuntu | 09:39 |
| elkbuntu | aha | 09:40 |
| anandjones | yes that one | 09:40 |
| elkbuntu | anandjones, please change your realname to not have swearing in it. we ban it because it stops more trolls than actual users. | 09:40 |
| anandjones | oh | 09:41 |
| anandjones | k | 09:41 |
| elkbuntu | the /b/ culture has alot to answer for | 09:41 |
| elkbuntu | you'll need to reconnect to the network for it to take effect | 09:41 |
| === Stratton is now known as StrattonBRB | ||
| anandjones | k | 09:42 |
| === StrattonBRB is now known as Stratton | ||
| Stratton | Thanks for the help ^_^ | 09:46 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, awake? | 10:04 |
| bazhang | elkbuntu, hi | 10:04 |
| Myrtti | we just had another visit from -ru | 10:05 |
| Myrtti | well... | 10:05 |
| Myrtti | -ru* | 10:05 |
| elkbuntu | we being -women | 10:05 |
| bazhang | who | 10:05 |
| elkbuntu | mau_dZe_doon | 10:05 |
| Myrtti | not that it matters | 10:05 |
| elkbuntu | n=mau_@92.255.160.75 | 10:05 |
| Myrtti | was just going to ask is there something going on again? | 10:05 |
| Myrtti | [12:04] [freenode] ~~~ channels : #ubuntu-women #ubuntu-ru-offtopic #ubuntu-ru | 10:06 |
| bazhang | I'll have a chat with him | 10:06 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, it was a flyby | 10:06 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, nothing said, just join and flee | 10:06 |
| bazhang | elkbuntu, nonetheless | 10:06 |
| bazhang | better to nip it in the bud | 10:06 |
| elkbuntu | which makes us even more suspicious as scouting is rarely done with good intent | 10:06 |
| bazhang | yep | 10:06 |
| elkbuntu | (well, scouting *there*) | 10:07 |
| bazhang | exactly | 10:07 |
| * elkbuntu tries to find a cheap 3g usb dongle | 10:11 | |
| bazhang | polatov, #ubuntu-irc | 10:12 |
| bazhang | polatov, not here | 10:12 |
| Myrtti | *shudder* | 10:12 |
| Myrtti | bazhang: have I mentioned to you lately how much I love you? | 10:13 |
| bazhang | Myrtti, they have no reason whatsoever to go in there, ever. | 10:14 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, well, unless they have the pointy bits rather than the dangly bits. | 10:14 |
| bazhang | elkbuntu, iirc there is a -ru-women | 10:15 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, i dont blame them. | 10:16 |
| elkbuntu | but, intermingling is usually A Good Thing | 10:16 |
| elkbuntu | just, i dont feel like intermingling until -ru changes their act -- big time. | 10:17 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, he's replying to me? | 10:19 |
| elkbuntu | or, he has no idea what i'm saying? | 10:19 |
| Myrtti | if they'd forget #ubuntu-women exists | 10:20 |
| bazhang | elkbuntu, he is talking to me for the most part | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | and just look at the web pages | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | and look at our blogging | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | I'd be happy | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | and look at our contributions to Ubuntu | 10:20 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, uh your comments are disabled, right? | 10:21 |
| Myrtti | elkbuntu: no, they either need my approval or openid | 10:21 |
| elkbuntu | close enough | 10:21 |
| Myrtti | I've had that like that always, I don't need a single spam | 10:22 |
| Myrtti | I feel like I'm wading in rice pudding talking to him | 10:31 |
| Myrtti | I'm off to do my groceries, bbl | 10:32 |
| bazhang | Myrtti, I think I better continue with this. | 10:35 |
| Myrtti | thank god for google translate. | 10:36 |
| Myrtti | and sanakirja.org | 10:36 |
| * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti and sends her off to buy noms | 10:37 | |
| Myrtti | http://www.sanakirja.org/search.php?q=mention&l=-1&l2=-1 | 10:37 |
| Myrtti | (also with an English UI, click on the right hand side) | 10:37 |
| Myrtti | --> | 10:38 |
| bazhang | the main problem with that channel, apart from the immaturity of some of the users, is that the operators are seldom around. | 10:57 |
| === _jason is now known as jrib | ||
| bazhang | its likely not a problem that will be solved overnight | 11:14 |
| bazhang | unless they get some operators who are there full time-ish | 11:14 |
| elkbuntu | ugh, there was another visitor. i suspect it is time for you to lurk with us | 11:20 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, * _kamaz_ (n=faraonxg@91.196.7.26) has joined #ubuntu-women | 11:20 |
| ubot3 | In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !nexenta is an Ubuntu derivative with an OpenSolaris kernel | 11:20 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !nexenta is an Ubuntu derivative with an OpenSolaris kernel | 11:20 |
| elkbuntu | <_kamaz_> Здравствуйте о прекрасная половина человечества!!!! | 11:21 |
| elkbuntu | <_kamaz_> эээ.......меня кто нибудь слышит? | 11:21 |
| bazhang | <dmay> question is we want create channel 'ubuntu-blackjack-and-hookers' <--via PM | 11:21 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, dmay is not in there anymore | 11:21 |
| elkbuntu | and next time i see him there, he'll be asked to go | 11:21 |
| bazhang | he knows not to go there | 11:21 |
| bazhang | as does everyone in that channel | 11:22 |
| bazhang | and have done so for some time now | 11:22 |
| elkbuntu | yeah, i've been busy the past few weeks | 11:22 |
| bazhang | no. | 11:23 |
| bazhang | I mean in -ru | 11:23 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, but you're welcome to sit in the channel. i suspect if you're there, they might actually believe they're busted | 11:23 |
| bazhang | their operators are *never* around | 11:23 |
| elkbuntu | and they cant try a hesaid shesaid thing | 11:23 |
| elkbuntu | i mean #ubuntu-women, dear | 11:23 |
| bazhang | okay | 11:23 |
| bazhang | the real solution in my opinion is to have the -ru operators around, or just dissolve that channel entirely. | 11:24 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, until then, we need you to be the instrument of consequence | 11:25 |
| bazhang | nice choice of words | 11:25 |
| elkbuntu | you currently have something to ... well... blackmail them into behaving with. if you dissolve the channel, you wont. | 11:26 |
| bazhang | but I think the same of -ot :) | 11:27 |
| elkbuntu | sometimes the only difference between the two is the charset | 11:27 |
| bazhang | true | 11:27 |
| Myrtti | after having eaten poorly for a week and being super annoyed about everything, nothing beats a big Sub with roast beef. | 11:57 |
| jussi01 | anyone know the command to star gnome network manager? | 12:01 |
| jussi01 | start* | 12:01 |
| jussi01 | nvm... | 12:07 |
| elkbuntu | gdm ... | 12:39 |
| Myrtti | nm-applet | 12:44 |
| Myrtti | come 1700 EET, I'll open the wine bottle and drink myself silly. | 12:44 |
| Myrtti | be warned. | 12:45 |
| Myrtti | I'll be off irc though | 12:47 |
| Myrtti | watching Forrest Gump | 12:47 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| genii | jussi01: I think I have it sorted now to auto identify but we won't know til next core disconnect I guess | 14:22 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| LjL | !puregnome | 15:48 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome » | 15:48 |
| LjL | !no puregnome is <reply> If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » | 15:50 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that LjL | 15:50 |
| LjL | those instructions are outdated and bad, see #Ubuntu | 15:50 |
| nickrud | ljl, does that take out the sound subsystem, or is kde using modern stuff now? | 15:52 |
| LjL | nickrud: on Hardy, KDE 3 uses what it always used, but i've no idea about KDE 4 and Intrepid | 15:53 |
| nickrud | ljl I used to use the purge libqt3-mt trick but had to remove a few other bits as well; as you can see that's extremely obsolete though | 15:55 |
| LjL | nickrud, yes that's why i removed the "and have a default Ubuntu system" part. but that remove line was just *bad*. | 15:55 |
| ikonia | Hmmm raul still hasn't joined #debian, I bet 10 minutes until the next time he just randomly asks | 15:56 |
| nickrud | oh, I believe you. It's over a year old I think | 15:56 |
| LjL | bazhang: wait, anyone who enters is +b...? | 16:21 |
| bazhang | LjL, from -ru yes | 16:21 |
| LjL | bazhang: by default? | 16:21 |
| bazhang | LjL, they were told not to go in there and harass | 16:21 |
| bazhang | LjL, and they ignored it | 16:21 |
| LjL | uhm | 16:22 |
| LjL | still, we don't ban people from #ubuntu by default just because they're also in, say, #archlinux? until they actually *do* something? | 16:22 |
| ikonia | just take this to freenode | 16:22 |
| bazhang | nice in theory, but this is a unique situation | 16:22 |
| ikonia | the archlinux-offtopic channel is unacceptable | 16:23 |
| LjL | ikonia: that's not what we're talking about, it was an example | 16:23 |
| ikonia | in terms of breeding ground to harrass other channels | 16:23 |
| ikonia | ahh | 16:23 |
| ikonia | sorry | 16:23 |
| ikonia | I thought it had kicked off again | 16:23 |
| LjL | ikonia: no, it's about #ubuntu-women | 16:23 |
| bazhang | LjL, freenode made me the operator of -ru in response to this | 16:23 |
| ikonia | oh this again | 16:23 |
| LjL | ikonia: where apparently anyone who joins there coming from #ubuntu-ru gets banned | 16:23 |
| bazhang | LjL, freenode knows about the situation. they want it under control. | 16:24 |
| ikonia | there was disscusion on this a few days ago | 16:24 |
| LjL | bazhang: right, which means they wanted you to ensure that the mess-up stops in *#ubuntu-ru*, not that *#ubuntu-women* ban people by default | 16:24 |
| LjL | look | 16:24 |
| ikonia | can't do ban by default | 16:25 |
| LjL | i've been trying to convince a channel just two days ago that the correct way to deal with harassing users from another channel was NOT to ban by default anyone coming from that channel | 16:25 |
| LjL | now if the very same is happening in a channel in the main namespace, then i'm starting to feel like a fool | 16:25 |
| ikonia | LjL: you can't have ban on sight for a whole channel | 16:26 |
| bazhang | LjL, I have only so many hours in a day I can sit in there; the usual operators are *never* there. | 16:26 |
| ikonia | I'm sure there are legitimate -ru users ? | 16:26 |
| ikonia | bazhang: is it possible to find other operators ? | 16:26 |
| LjL | ikonia, i agree with that | 16:26 |
| LjL | bazhang: fair enough, but that doesn't justify banning by default | 16:26 |
| LjL | once a channel had *.it banned | 16:26 |
| LjL | i didn't like that | 16:26 |
| bazhang | LjL, banning for harassment does | 16:26 |
| LjL | this is exceedingly similar | 16:26 |
| LjL | bazhang: sure, if there *is* actual harassment | 16:26 |
| ikonia | bazhang: have not the problem users been banned ? | 16:27 |
| bazhang | LjL, and that is the only reason they have ever gone in there. | 16:27 |
| LjL | bazhang: not if someone just *is* in a given channel | 16:27 |
| ikonia | bazhang: I thought there was only say 4 guys who where a problem | 16:27 |
| bazhang | LjL, for them enter=harass | 16:27 |
| LjL | bazhang: that sounds very much like the equation italians on irc = a mess | 16:27 |
| LjL | which leads channels to banning all italians | 16:27 |
| LjL | which is not acceptable | 16:27 |
| bazhang | LjL, if there was an elegant solution to this I would be all for it. | 16:28 |
| bazhang | LjL, they still treat it all as a big joke. | 16:28 |
| LjL | bazhang: ban people who actually start harassing. | 16:28 |
| bazhang | LjL, that is what is happening. | 16:28 |
| ikonia | bazhang: how many of them are there ? | 16:28 |
| LjL | bazhang: ok then i'm not understanding | 16:29 |
| bazhang | apparently not. | 16:29 |
| LjL | bazhang: if someone is in -ru and they join #ubuntu-women, do they get banned immediately, or not? | 16:29 |
| bazhang | the only reason they go in there is to harass and make sex jokes. | 16:29 |
| bazhang | which the users of -women do not find amusing or welcome | 16:30 |
| LjL | bazhang: ok, so do they get banned *after* they start doing that, or *before*? | 16:30 |
| bazhang | LjL, they are challenging this by stating that going in there and making those kinds of jokes is some kind of free speech issue; that they have the right to go where they please and do what they wish under the banner of 'free speech' | 16:32 |
| LjL | of course that's a bogus claim | 16:33 |
| LjL | but they do have a right to join an #ubuntu channel | 16:33 |
| LjL | they just don't have the right to say stuff that's not acceptable in it | 16:33 |
| ikonia | unless they are banned for their behaviour | 16:33 |
| LjL | sure | 16:33 |
| bazhang | mau_ and polatov were able to explain why they went in there and thus were unbanned. | 16:33 |
| ikonia | some of these are known issues and should be banned for the behabiour and the ban not lifted | 16:33 |
| bazhang | free speech simply does not enter into it. | 16:34 |
| LjL | bazhang: but to begin with, they were banned without a reason? had those two *done anything*? | 16:34 |
| bazhang | one user from that channel wants to open a channel called ubuntu-blackjack_and_hookers | 16:34 |
| LjL | good riddance to them, it'll get closed before they know | 16:35 |
| ikonia | bazhang: sounds like you have your hands ful | 16:35 |
| ikonia | full even | 16:35 |
| bazhang | imagine -ot at its worst and multiply by 10 | 16:36 |
| LjL | anyway | 16:36 |
| LjL | i won't accept bans merely set because someone is on a given loco channel. that'd be discriminatory. if someone, a *specific* person, actually *behaves* badly, then of course that's another story. | 16:37 |
| bazhang | they are only in there for one reason and one reason alone. to harass. | 16:38 |
| LjL | bans set on country domains, or on people who haven't actually even spoken on a channel (unless they've *personally* expressed the intention to troll that channel -- not *someone else* on the same channel has), aren't acceptable | 16:38 |
| LjL | bazhang: that's apparently not true, because you just said that mau_ and polatov aren't | 16:38 |
| LjL | so that's already to exceptions | 16:38 |
| bazhang | no. | 16:38 |
| LjL | generalizing automatically is not acceptable. | 16:38 |
| bazhang | mau_ did not know. | 16:38 |
| bazhang | polatov was part of the original crew. | 16:39 |
| bazhang | he knows not to go back. | 16:39 |
| LjL | bazhang: are any of the -ru *operators* involved in the harassment? | 16:51 |
| bazhang | LjL, one entered with the others, but did not openly make the comments | 16:52 |
| LjL | bazhang: any evidence of operators *being* around, *seeing* plans to go troll -women, and not saying a word about them? | 16:54 |
| bazhang | LjL, no direct evidence that I have seen | 16:55 |
| bazhang | only circumstantial, ie entering the channel at the same time. | 16:55 |
| LjL | bazhang: is it just me or are you hiding from a4 the fact that you can read russian? :P | 17:02 |
| bazhang | LjL, not hiding it; have not disclosed it | 17:02 |
| bazhang | a4 still does not get it. | 17:10 |
| LjL | bazhang: how come i don't even see him as part of the russian team? | 17:13 |
| Myrtti | am I even grasping the idea now? | 17:13 |
| bazhang | LjL, not sure. | 17:13 |
| Myrtti | am I explaining things simply enough? | 17:13 |
| bazhang | he just does not want to get it, imo | 17:14 |
| LjL | well | 17:14 |
| bazhang | he wants to go in there and chat people up. | 17:14 |
| LjL | his level of english is also... suboptimal | 17:14 |
| Pici | You speaker? | 17:14 |
| Myrtti | I have no idea | 17:14 |
| Pici | I think the analogies aren't translating well. | 17:14 |
| Myrtti | I think I might have to blog that | 17:15 |
| Myrtti | and have it also translated | 17:15 |
| bazhang | speak = speech | 17:15 |
| bazhang | you speaker = speechify | 17:15 |
| LjL | which in turn means what? :P | 17:16 |
| Myrtti | he assumes I'm cutpasting that from somewhere | 17:16 |
| bazhang | that he wants to get down to brass tacks. | 17:16 |
| bazhang | and be allowed to come in and chat people up. | 17:16 |
| Myrtti | that it's a ready made thing, a lecture | 17:17 |
| bazhang | blunt is better imo. | 17:18 |
| LjL | Myrtti: he won't have a single clue what "gawk", "tear" and "stomp" would mean, most likely | 17:18 |
| LjL | i don't know what the former means myself | 17:18 |
| bazhang | leer at | 17:18 |
| bazhang | gawker.com | 17:19 |
| Myrtti | I guess I was assuming that his vocabulary would be a bit better than polatovs | 17:19 |
| Pici | "to stare with empty-minded fascination" | 17:19 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* | 17:19 |
| LjL | and i don't even know what "leer" means. but no worries, i have a dictionary | 17:19 |
| Pici | O.O = gawk | 17:20 |
| bazhang | ogle | 17:20 |
| LjL | just trying to say that sometimes (especially in english) the words that you'd consider "everyday" and "common" are the least known ones to foreign speakers | 17:20 |
| Myrtti | LjL: omg, I'm too English | 17:20 |
| LjL | for me as an italian for instance, the latinate words that you'd consider most awkward are often familiar, but apples and strawberries are not | 17:20 |
| LjL | Myrtti: no but you speak a language where there's no bias towards or against latin words | 17:21 |
| LjL | so you don't perceive that difference | 17:21 |
| LjL | now, russian isn't latin to begin with so it's not the same thing | 17:21 |
| Pici | LjL: English has a lot of slang that has integrated itself into the core of the language. | 17:21 |
| LjL | but he just plainly knows too little english to understand your analogy imo | 17:21 |
| bazhang | yep | 17:21 |
| bazhang | better to invoke Yosemite Sam | 17:22 |
| LjL | Pici: that's another issue but to someone like me, whether it's slang or just a typical one-syllable germanic word makes little difference - as in, not a clue | 17:22 |
| LjL | this is ending up like a huge advertisement of -women | 17:28 |
| Myrtti | as long as, excuse the language, the idiots stay the fuck out of there | 17:29 |
| Myrtti | and I mean only the idiots. | 17:29 |
| Myrtti | people who Get It are always welcome | 17:29 |
| LjL | Myrtti, -irc is getting too many spectators, some are bound to not stay the fuck out of there. | 17:30 |
| * Pici facepalms | 17:35 | |
| LjL | bazhang: might -ru-offtopic have anything to do with all these spectators coming in? | 17:37 |
| bazhang | LjL, no idea | 17:37 |
| Myrtti | [19:45] < fbc> I'm curious, If an Ubuntu Muslim edition locates an Ubuntu Jewish Edition online does it try to attack it? | 17:46 |
| Myrtti | [19:45] < Myrtti> fbc: you're so badly offtopic, it doesn't fit into Ubuntu IRC channels. | 17:46 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* | 17:46 |
| jdong | politically incorrect joke FAIL? | 17:46 |
| Myrtti | is there a command to check which app is blocking my alsa? | 17:46 |
| LjL | Myrtti: problem is, it's not so far from the truth... | 17:46 |
| LjL | Myrtti: if it's going through pulseaudio, i doubt it...? | 17:47 |
| LjL | and if it doesn't, i still don't know | 17:47 |
| Myrtti | Pici: ♥ | 17:47 |
| LjL | if it were OSS, you'd just lsof | 17:47 |
| jdong | LjL: but the Ubuntu Jewish Edition will call for help from Ubuntu US Edition and before we know it 9 trillion dollars are being dropped on the geographic region and we go into recession? | 17:47 |
| Pici | lsof works for alsa too, I'm not sure how to check with pulse | 17:48 |
| Pici | Well, I mean you can use lsof, but it just says the mixer is using it here. | 17:48 |
| jdong | pulse's alsa sink shouldn't be blockable | 17:48 |
| LjL | Pici: what do you see in lsof with alsa? | 17:48 |
| Myrtti | I saw nothing with /dev/dsp | 17:49 |
| Myrtti | but got firefox and ekiga with alsa | 17:49 |
| Myrtti | and miraculously, killing firefox and restarting alsa worked ♥ | 17:49 |
| Myrtti | I love you guys | 17:49 |
| LjL | jdong: well, that'd call for a voting by the UN, i mean the IRCC, which of course would be stalled for a couple of decades, and meanwhile yes, all would rot | 17:50 |
| Myrtti | I'm sure I wrote elkies address on back of a Christmas card already | 17:50 |
| Pici | LjL: I used to be able to see what was using it. I don't have a /dev/dsp anymore here though, grepping for /dev/snd gives me mixer_app | 17:50 |
| Myrtti | but where the heck did I put it to?! | 17:50 |
| Myrtti | oh, nvm | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | I wrote it on THE ENVELOPE | 17:51 |
| Pici | GAS{ | 17:51 |
| LjL | uhm, starting aplay /bin/sh does give me a couple more /dev/snd/pcm* entries | 17:51 |
| Pici | er, GASP. | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | is the flash installation broken again? | 17:58 |
| Myrtti | http://twitter.com/popey/statuses/1040506325 | 17:58 |
| ikonia | yes | 17:59 |
| ikonia | adobe has changed the url this morning | 17:59 |
| Myrtti | do we need a factoid? | 17:59 |
| Myrtti | :-/ | 17:59 |
| Myrtti | again | 17:59 |
| ikonia | I'm waiting to see if its a perm change or not | 17:59 |
| ikonia | before I went nuts on it | 17:59 |
| ikonia | only a few people have asked so far | 17:59 |
| Myrtti | ubottu: tell XenSA about pm | 18:00 |
| Myrtti | !search qt4 | 18:00 |
| ubottu | Found: qt | 18:00 |
| Myrtti | ubottu: tell XenSA about qt | 18:00 |
| Myrtti | I suck in drawing kangaroos | 18:06 |
| vorian | anyone else get a pm from ubuntu_? | 19:17 |
| Pici | Not I/ | 19:17 |
| vorian | they are in #kubuntu | 19:18 |
| TheMuso | Is anybody looking into getting a temporary ubuntu FossCamp/UDS cloak? I can PM someone the IP I am currently accessing IRC from. | 20:21 |
| Pici | Affiliated cloaks override gateway cloaks, so I'm not sure it will be of much use to cloaked Ubuntu members attending UDS | 20:22 |
| LjL | bah | 20:22 |
| Pici | humbug? | 20:23 |
| LjL | there's a lot of what i think is nonsense being said about GRUB in #ubuntu, if someone who knows anything about it wants to check... i don't | 20:23 |
| TheMuso | LjL: I know about the member c loaks, but I am thinking of various people who are attending fosscamp/UDS who do not have cloaks of any sort. I've seen some already. | 20:24 |
| PriceChild | TheMuso: iline@freenode.net please. | 20:25 |
| PriceChild | TheMuso: wait lemme just double check that's iline not ilines. | 20:25 |
| PriceChild | TheMuso: yep its iline@freenode.net Would be great if you could send the request there. | 20:26 |
| TheMuso | PriceChild: Ok thanks, will get to it in a bit. | 20:27 |
| ikonia | LjL: your correct, massive ammount of nonsense | 20:29 |
| Pici | Why? | 20:58 |
| Pici | @ orgthingy in -ot | 20:58 |
| LjL | Pici: you mean the gnaa references? | 20:59 |
| Pici | LjL: Yeah | 20:59 |
| LjL | Pici: i dunno. i would guess he's had issues with magnetron before, and he attempted a half assed joke. | 20:59 |
| LjL | Pici: orgthingy is one of the names i have on mental highlight list anyway. as in, no real idea who he is, still rings a bell in the distance for some reason | 21:00 |
| Pici | LjL: Ditto. | 21:00 |
| LjL | and now i have blurry in my query (no surprise, he highlighted me before)... wthiswthdhw | 21:05 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, ompaul said: seveas is <reply> blurry is seveas | 22:28 |
| Myrtti | erm. | 22:33 |
| Myrtti | stdin? jussi01? | 22:33 |
| Myrtti | help? | 22:33 |
| Myrtti | what are you guys doing? | 22:33 |
| mneptok | damn you, peer! | 22:51 |
| mneptok | jussi01_: meep | 23:31 |
| Myrtti | where's me phone | 23:34 |
| Myrtti | ... | 23:34 |
| Myrtti | perkele | 23:34 |
| mneptok | pairrrrrrrrrrrrrkehleh | 23:35 |
| Myrtti | "um, ubottu is really very very annoyingly dead. if you could do something about that, would be nice." | 23:36 |
| Myrtti | text message sent | 23:37 |
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