[00:00] <p1und3r> is it possible to permenantly attach an custom icon to an internet shortcut even when sharing?
[00:00] <m_tadeu> back again
[00:00] <Xarver> Hello, if I use wubi and install ubuntu, will it remove the opensuse installation on my computer? (want to get rid of opensuse)
[00:00] <Maizcul> When I installed ubuntu I was pleasantly surprised that everything actually worked, even my wireless card which is from a company i'd never heard of before I got the card.
[00:00] <damagu> ActionParsnip isn't that thread talkingabout xorg.conf... where did you get the bit about /etc/modprobe.d/olpc.conf.dist?
[00:00] <m_tadeu> so I don't seem to find a corel draw for linux....and still don't know the file extention
[00:00] <kitche> Xarver: no since wubi installs a image inside of Windows to boot from
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> damagu: one of the links I gave
[00:01] <|GaiJin|> in windows mediacentre, i was able to view certain internet tv's and such... is linux media centre able to do the same... anyone tried it?? or is there a program i should rather be concentrating on??
[00:01] <Xarver> Dangit.
[00:01] <georgy_28> user : you sure that you have no output about wifi if you do lspci in a terminal ?
[00:01] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  .cdr?
[00:01] <p1und3r> is it possible to permenantly attach an custom icon to an internet shortcut even when sharing? <------anyone?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> |GaiJin|: xbmc is good at that sort of thing
[00:01] <DavidCanarias> oskar-: it didnt work!!!!
[00:01] <kopy07> When I used mplayer to see the video output from a webcam and it gave am an error " Current format: unknown (0x31363553) "  any ideas
[00:01] <ward_> |GaiJin| MythTV!
[00:01] <|GaiJin|> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:01] <Maizcul> Apparently the best server for me in the UK to use is one in Germany...
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> |GaiJin|: you need to add some repos
[00:02] <m_tadeu> oskar-: there is a cdr, cdx, cdt....quite confused
[00:02] <Lusule> hi there :) anyone know what grub error 17 is and how to fix it?  i'm trying to create a xubuntu liveusb pen but when i try to boot it, that's the error i get :(
[00:02] <DavidCanarias> oskar-: it didn work
[00:02] <h00k> My CDROM isn't ejecting my CD, 'eject' reports /dev/scd0 isn't a block device, and it used to work but doesn't now.  any ideas? (Ibex i386, 2.6.27-9-generic) fstab: http://pastebin.com/d2eae43a5
[00:02] <Xarver> Any way to overwrite opensuse and install ubuntu without a cd?
[00:02] <nova_> anyone know how to get a logitech mx 620 working in ibex 64bit?  it works on bootup but after 10 min it just stops responding
[00:02] <|GaiJin|> ward_: looked on myth tv... isnt that only with a reciver installed?? or can i see internet tv also
[00:02] <ward_> xmbc runs like crap on older hardware (at least the older hardware i tried it on)
[00:02] <kristian_> Can anyone tell me how to enforce the use of a particular graphics driver in Intrepid? Auto-detection doesn't work, and xorg.conf is seemingly obsolete now...
[00:02] <damagu> ActionParsnip: You only posted one link didn't you? And that went to a thread talkingabout xorg.conf. Either way do I need to restart my machine for it to work... and does this disable the tap to click or do I then need to use gsynaptics to disable it?
[00:02] <|GaiJin|> ActionParsnip: what repos??
[00:02] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  cdr was the extension of a normal corel draw file, at least from version 4 to 8
[00:02] <jrib> kristian_: xorg.conf, you're misinformed
[00:03] <kristian_> I am?
[00:03] <ward_> |GaiJin| you can also watch internettv with it yes
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> |GaiJin|: webseach xbmc, the site has a guidew
[00:03] <jrib> kristian_: xorg.conf just isn't the place to configure input devices anymore (by default)
[00:03] <|GaiJin|> thanks again
[00:03] <user__> georgy_28 if i click on system and hardware dirvers it tells me that support for atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards is enbled
[00:03] <|GaiJin|> both of you
[00:03] <ward_> |GaiJin| same with mythtv, they have pretty nice docs
[00:03] <kristian_> but no variant of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg renders any usable result?
[00:03] <ward_> no problem, good luck
[00:03] <gnutron> h00k: does the mounted cdrom appear on your desktop?
[00:04] <m_tadeu> oskar-: what about corel12?
[00:04] <h00k> gnutron, negative
[00:04] <Guest43923> I need help... right now I' looking at busybox, it says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<seemingly random string> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[00:04] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  i have never used it
[00:04] <h00k> gnutron, /dev/scd0 also doesn't appear to exist
[00:04] <h00k> gnutron, it did previously
[00:04] <gnutron> h00k: but it does mount? ls -l /media/
[00:04] <Guest43923> how can I see what hda's I have
[00:04] <Guest43923> from busybox
[00:04] <oskar-> Guest43923:  cat /proc/partitions
[00:04] <Maizcul> Now to see if I can get my usb flash drive working, at the best of times it's trippy. I sort of sucked on it and it started to rust ...
[00:04] <m_tadeu> is there an app that understands .cdr files?
[00:04] <Flannel> Guest43923: blkid will tell you
[00:04] <georgy_28> user__,  : ok, but sometimes this driver don't work, so we need the output from the lspci command to know the wifi chip
[00:04] <histo> My friend just installed updates he had waiting on ibex. He said there were some errors.  He doesn't remember what the errors were. The system was acting "weird" so he restarted and now when he logs in he has no panels no Alt+F2 run dialog but shows his start up scripts and deesktop backgournd.  This behavior also happens if he trys gnome failsafe?
[00:05] <h00k> gnutron -> http://pastebin.com/daa40c69
[00:05] <oskar-> m_tadeu:  i don't know of any
[00:05] <jrib> histo: you're friend should join here directly so that the issue can be debugged
[00:05] <user__> georgy_28 but this command doesn't say there's even a wifi chip, but somehow it must have been detected, otherwise how come ubunto has activated the atheros driver?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> histo: if you create a new user and log in as that is it ok?
[00:06] <user__> georgy_28 so there's nothing i can do about it?
[00:06] <Izinucs> histo: no failsafe is a terminal prompt for fixing things.. irssi is a terminal irc client..
[00:06] <Guest43923> oskar-: it only shows 8     0  117220824 sda
[00:06] <histo> jrib, he's here but cooking right now. I'm waiting for him to forward ssh so I cna log in and look for erros.
[00:06] <georgy_28> user__,  : can you pastebin the output of lspci ?
[00:06] <gnutron> h00k: i hesitate to say intrepid broke 'something' try sudo umount /dev/cdrom0 in a terminal
[00:06] <histo> Izinucs, no gnome failsafe session is completely different then recover console.
[00:06] <Guest43923> oskar-: although I have 4 partitions...
[00:06] <Izinucs> histo: ah.. I was mixing them up.. sorry..
[00:06] <histo> ActionParsnip, haven't tried that yet but as i stated if he selects gnome failsafe from sessions it still has no panel.
[00:06] <Guest43923> Flannel: blkid? It says not found...
[00:07] <Maizcul> note to self: putting the pen drive in the right way round tends to help ...
[00:07] <histo> jrib, just trying to get some ideas.
[00:07] <h00k> gnutron, yeah, doesn't exist: umount: /dev/cdrom0: not found
[00:07] <sirjoebob> hey all. i just setup ubuntu server with vsftpd and need to know how to set a public folder for all users to share... any ideas?
[00:07] <h00k> gnutron, neither does /dev/cd* (cd anything)
[00:07] <Flannel> Guest43923: that's probably true due to busybox.
[00:07] <h00k> gnutron, that's why I'm quite puzzled.
[00:07] <gnutron> h00k: sudo umount /media/cdrom0   ..not sure but cant harm anything.
[00:07] <kitche> sirjoebob: vsftpd has a wonderful howto for that on their site
[00:08] <kristian_> How do I select which driver to use then? The card in question is a legacy matrox card, but I can only obtain a decent screen with the xforcevesa parameter - so obviously auto detection doesn't work properly
[00:08] <sirjoebob> kitche: awesome. thanks. i will had their right now and RTFM lol
[00:08] <Xarver> I want to install ubuntu on wubi and remove openSuse without a cd. is this possible?
[00:08] <__Zombie__> Anyone good with Suspend/Resume on laptops?
[00:08] <sirchar> hey guys i downlaoded open office formula, but where should i go to open it?
[00:08] <h00k> gnutron, it reports as not mounted
[00:08] <jrib> kristian_: you use xorg.conf just like before
[00:08] <Izinucs> suddenly .. flash audio stopped working.. it's been working fine for the last month.. any ideas on how to diagnose and fix?
[00:08] <user__> georgy_28 sure: http://pastebin.com/d558ec4c1
[00:08] <gnutron> h00k: push the cdrom eject button
[00:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[00:08] <jrib> Izinucs: what version of ubuntu?
[00:08] <wubrgamer> what's up?
[00:08] <h00k> gnutron, also umount /media/cdrom reports as not mounted.
[00:08] <oskar-> Guest43923:  if it can find the hard drive and make it to sda, i see no reason why the partition table should not be readable... :\
[00:08] <h00k> gnutron, tried that also...nothin'
[00:08] <Izinucs> jrib: 8.10
[00:08] <Maizcul> Hmm ... nope, still not working. Either ubuntu doesn't like my usb stick or the rust is even worse than before
[00:09] <__Zombie__> On 8.10?
[00:09] <Guest43923> oskar-: well, any other ideas :( ?
[00:09] <oskar-> Guest43923:  try to check with a live cd, if the partitions are there
[00:09] <gnutron> h00k: weird, sorry out of ideas.
[00:09] <Zimbo> I just installed sqlite3-doc, and while I figured out from poking around that it basically deposited a bunch of HTML files in /usr/share/doc/sqlite3-doc (and can open up index.html in there), how am I *supposed* to access those documents?  Shouldn't it have made a start menu icon somewhere?
[00:09] <Austin`> Having a problem with ubuntu: on my windows there are no close, minimize, or maximize buttons. I am using compiz to manage windows, gnome-window-decorator
[00:09] <h00k> gnutron, the drive accepted the CD, (it's not a tray, it's a slot)
[00:09] <Guest43923> oskar-: I know they are there because I can still boot into the Windows section...
[00:09] <histo> jrib, ActionParsnip I personally think he has issues with a specific piece of his hardware since this isn't the first time he has received errors installing updates.
[00:09] <ezzieyguywuf> can i get someone to help me get hdaps working properly on my thinkpad? i've to the tp_smapi package installed, and the tp_smapi module loads ok but i can't seem to get hdaps working
[00:09] <h00k> gnutron, yeah, I am too, we'll see if anyone else has any ideas.  thanks for the help anyway
[00:09] <Maizcul> Ctrl+W ftw.
[00:09] <__Zombie__> kernel 2.6.27-10
[00:09] <georgy_28> user__,  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01
[00:09] <sirchar> I installed open office formula, where do i have to go to open it?
[00:09] <Guest43923> oskar-: I just can't boot into the Ubuntu partition because the root= part is wrong, obviously.. :(
[00:09] <Xk2c> anyway fixed it
[00:09] <__Zombie__> x86-64
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> histo: try fixing xorg at failsafe boot
[00:09] <gnutron> h00k: best wishes.
[00:09] <Xk2c> [[ -e $(alias run-help)  ]] && unalias run-help
[00:10] <Xk2c> ;)
[00:10] <Xk2c> bye
[00:10] <h00k> So, my CDROM isn't ejecting my CD, 'eject' reports /dev/scd0 isn't a block device, and it used to work but isn't now.  any ideas? (Ibex i386, 2.6.27-9-generic) fstab: http://pastebin.com/d2eae43a5
[00:10] <georgy_28> user__, : you see ?
[00:10] <histo> ActionParsnip, first thing i'm going to do is look at the logs whne I get in.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> histo: best way
[00:10] <user__> georgy_28 oh, it's an Ethernet thing? though Ethernet is cable.  Sorry, as it's all chinese to me, i hadn't seen it
[00:10] <Guest43923> oskar-: for grub, is it kernel <path-here> root=/dev/sda
[00:10] <SpAc> I'm extracting a tar.gz and all the permissions are wrong. Everything has permissions of 755. Can I extract it so that it comes out with files as 644 and directories as 755?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> histo: you could try reinstalling all the debs in /var/apt/cache
[00:11] <user__> georgy_28 does this info help any?
[00:11] <histo> ActionParsnip, well the new ones will be there as well.
[00:11] <georgy_28> user_: yes, are you confortable with command ?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> histo: should be
[00:11] <oskar-> Guest43923:  root=/dev/sdaX, with X being the linux partition number
[00:11] <Guest43923> ok
[00:12] <oskar-> i must leave now. good luck and good night!
[00:12] <oskar-> ;-)
[00:12] <gnutron> SpAc: the directory must be executable, hence the 755 octals
[00:12] <Maizcul> Is there any keyboard shortcut for terminal or not?
[00:12] <user__> georgy_28 I'm new. Don't know any commands and installed everything by clicking in synaptics
[00:12] <zzlyzq> hehe  in China it is 8 morning
[00:12] <Izinucs> jrib: my FF bombed the other day for some reason and I had to delete ~/.mozilla .. I had a backup from my hardy install and mv ~/.mozilla.back to ~/.mozilla..
[00:12] <jrib> Maizcul: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts  to set one
[00:12] <__Zombie__> it used to work, then I reloaded and now it doesn't suspend completely
[00:12] <SpAc> gnutron: yeah, that part is fine. But all the files that extracted also have 755 permissions
[00:12] <georgy_28> user_: it will not be easy, but we will give a shot
[00:13] <jrib> Izinucs: does it make a difference if you mv ~/.mozilla/ again?  Does the issue persist after a reboot?
[00:13] <user__> georgy_28 I only know the lspci command that spits out a lot of things my computer has  ;-)
[00:13] <h00k> So, my CDROM isn't ejecting my CD, 'eject' reports /dev/scd0 isn't a block device, and it used to work but isn't now.  any ideas? (Ibex i386, 2.6.27-9-generic) fstab: http://pastebin.com/d2eae43a5
[00:13] <Maizcul> Thanks jrib
[00:13] <gnutron> SpAc: cd dir and chmod 644 * should be ok
[00:13] <DavidCanarias> What do I type in the command line to update serpentine Please. I have forgotten
[00:13] <georgy_28> user_: first disable the atheros driver from ubuntu
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> h00k: try: eject /dev/cdrom
[00:13] <Izinucs> jrib: I've since rebooted after moving the file.. I haven't tried just renaming the current .mozilla and letting the system recreate it yet..
[00:13] <user__> georgy_28: ok
[00:14] <filthpig> does anybody know if there will be a gtk port / ubuntu theme for Songbird? It's quite a nice app from what I've seen, but I don't like the design of it, it looks like an attempt to look too much like too many other things. (Yeah, I've already skinned it to something.. better;)
[00:14] <h00k> ActionParsnip, I've tried that, /dev/cdrom doesn't exist, neither does /dev/scd0
[00:14] <mohbana> do i need nspluginwrapper for java 32bit
[00:14] <user__> georgy_28 "this driver was just deactivated but is still in use
[00:15] <__Zombie__> How about this:  Anyone recommend a good Linux compatible GPS?
[00:15] <jrib> mohbana: nope, just use icedtea
[00:15] <mohbana> jrib: i trying to install jre6u11
[00:15] <jrib> mohbana: I assume you're using ubuntu 64bit?
[00:15] <mohbana> jrib: yes
[00:15] <filthpig> __Zombie__: this might help you http://tuxmobil.org/navigation_gps.html
[00:16] <georgy_28> user__, : wait a second
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> h00k: run mount. it will tell yuo whats mounted where. if you dont have /dev./scd0 you got an issue
[00:16] <scientes> wtf evolution doesnt support ipv6
[00:16] <jrib> mohbana: if you want a browser plugin, use icedtea.  Sun does not provide one.  If you just want the jre from sun, it's in the repositories as sun-java6-jre iirc
[00:16] <user__> georgy_28 yes. and thank you
[00:16] <__Zombie__> filthpig, Thanks
[00:16] <Maizcul> MY laptop has a FN key to use some keys as extra functions e.g. volume up etc. is there a way to enable these?
[00:16] <h00k> ActionParsnip, it's not there.  I know the drive works.
[00:17] <viniciusfs> hello all
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> h00k: mount will say where its mounted and what dev it is
[00:17] <Zimbo> OK, somewhat broader question... all the documentation in /usr/share/doc in Ubuntu... am I just supposed to *know* it's there and point a web browser at it, or is there a menu link to it somewhere?
[00:17] <DavidCanarias> what does it mean when a synta error pops up in the terminal
[00:17] <DavidCanarias> syntax
[00:17] <viniciusfs> i need some help to get my wireless intel 4965 agn working
[00:17] <viniciusfs> anyone can help me ?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> h00k: whats the output of: file /dev/scd0
[00:17] <mohbana> jrib: but i'm trying to install u11 it was released today
[00:17] <h00k> ActionParsnip, it doesn't exist :/
[00:17] <h00k> ActionParsnip, mount doesn't report it either
[00:18] <h00k> ActionParsnip, but it's in my fstab (which I haven't edited)
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> h00k: you got an issue with your drive then
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> h00k: or the config of
[00:18] <h00k> ActionParsnip, let me try to eject it before my lappy boots, I'll brb.
[00:18] <Izinucs> jrib: you know sometimes you just have to kick yourself.  I had the switch punched to move audio to my headphones so the speakers were "off".. >.<
[00:18] <filthpig> Maizcul: those should be enabled by default. What language/layout does your keyboard have, and what model is your computer?
[00:18] <jrib> Izinucs: heh
[00:19] <gnutron> h00k: man makedev in a terminal. use with caution.
[00:19] <jrib> mohbana: anything released today is not going to be in the repositories
[00:19] <mohbana> of course it's not
[00:19] <jrib> mohbana: in any case, you can't use nspluginwrapper for java afaik
[00:19] <Guest43923> right now I' looking at busybox, it says ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<seemingly random string> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[00:19] <mohbana> so how does the java plugin work
[00:19] <Semidios> anyone know how to fix this "Could not find sensor 'Rhythmlet'" when trying to add a Rhythmlet gDesklet widget
[00:20] <jrib> mohbana: you use icedtea...
[00:20] <Zimbo> All the documentation in /usr/share/doc in Ubuntu... am I just supposed to *know* it's there and point a web browser at it, or is there a menu link to it somewhere?
[00:20] <prahal_> is there a selinux version of cups-pdf ? apparmor is dead :(
[00:20] <mohbana> jrib: the sun plugin does't work?
[00:20] <jrib> mohbana: right
[00:20] <mohbana> jrib: how did it make itself in the repo
[00:20] <jrib> mohbana: huh?  How did what make itself in the repo?
[00:20] <prahal_> Zimbo, dwww on debian does the job you are looking after . Don't know if it exists on ubuntu
[00:21] <mohbana> jrib: how did it get in the repo if it doesn't work
[00:21] <Maizcul> Hmm, this is ever so slightly inconvenient, my scrol lock key is on my num lock key when it is pressed with the fn key, doh. /facepalm
[00:21] <kitche> mohbana: you are using icedtea which the sun plugin won't work with
[00:21] <jrib> mohbana: what is "it" in your sentence?
[00:21] <Zimbo> Thanks prahal
[00:21] <mohbana> jrib: the sun plugin
[00:21] <Flannel> !info dwww | Zimbo, prahal_
[00:21] <jrib> mohbana: what package are you referring to?
[00:21] <mohbana> jrib: sun jre and the plugin
[00:21] <jrib> mohbana: that's not the name of a package.
[00:22] <mohbana> it not relevant, i'm just asking if the sun's plugin works
[00:22] <zaza86> chat server:/join #ubuntu-it-chat
[00:22] <prahal_> Flannel, well the summary is wrong . It is read off-line documentation not on-line
[00:22] <jrib> mohbana: I told you, there does not exist a sun java plugin for 64bit
[00:22] <georgy_28> user__, go to http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6/  and download the latest release
[00:22] <h00k> FYI to anyone, the drive was apparently turned off in BIOS.
[00:22] <mohbana> jrib: so everyone has to install the icedtea plugin
[00:23] <jrib> mohbana: on 64bit yeah, or some plugin other than the one that doesn't exist from sun
[00:23] <Zimbo> dwww doesn't come installed with Ubuntu by default, although I can certainly add it.  It wants to also add a whole bunch of Apache-related items too, though -- 8.4GB to
[00:23] <Zimbo> total
[00:23] <furythor> Okay, I got my problem cleared, for some reason  Ubuntu can't get EDID information from my monitor, so what I can do now ?
[00:23] <gnutron> h00k: wheee, thats a good thing then.
[00:24] <filthpig> jrib: slightly OT, but that's pretty bad from Ye Olde Sun the OSS Lover
[00:24] <Izinucs> !resolution | furythor there's info here how to deal with that
[00:24] <h00k> gnutron, yeah, good, but why it was turned off is beyond me :)
[00:24] <h00k> gnutron, I was really hoping it was nothing too serious
[00:24] <davidkap> Does anyone know how I mount my external harddrive to have synchronous OFF?
[00:24] <jrib> filthpig: the bug is *years* old on their tracker
[00:24] <leonel_> I got freeNX (Nomachine) working locally, but that's not really what my goal is. Can anyone help me? I need to safely connect to my home computer from school. I read that you have to redirect the ssh request to my router, but I'm not that smart and I need someone to explain how to do it (in an easy to understand way).
[00:24] <user__> georgy_28 ok, i dl'ed the dec 4th version now to my desktop
[00:24] <gnutron> h00k: excellent question. i do not know but good detective work.
[00:24] <user__> georgy_28 and now?
[00:24] <DavidCanarias> I cant get Serpentine audio CD creator to open. Can anyone help please??
[00:24] <h00k> gnutron, thanks for your ideas.  Yeah, as far as figuring out why the BIOS changed itself is something I'm not qualified to figure out.
[00:24] <etherael> hey guys, quick q, I have a system with an onboard and a pci e based video card, both show up in lspci as fara s I can see (01:00.0 and 01:00.1) I'm running two monitors off one and want to run a third off the other, how would I go about doing this?
[00:25] <filthpig> jrib: I guess they hope to save money from opening the sourcecode and wait for Iced Tea to mature..
[00:25] <georgy_28> user__,  : open a terminal and type :  cd Desktop
[00:25] <filthpig> which is pretty un-userfriendly
[00:25] <wiijii> etherael I'm not sure you can
[00:25] <leonel_> I got freeNX (Nomachine) working locally, but that's not really what my goal is. Can anyone help me? I need to safely connect to my home computer from school. I read that you have to redirect the ssh request to my router, but I'm not that smart and I need someone to explain how to do it (in an easy to understand way).
[00:25] <Zimbo> leonel: Can you use ssh to connect to machines at school?  If not you're probably out of luck (unless you have a very cooperate IT guy at school)
[00:26] <etherael> wiijii, I don't even particularily mind if I run a completely different X process for the other video card, is there a way to isolate X and tell it to run only on a certain videocard?
[00:26] <furythor> For all I need, is to add this mode to my xorg.conf 1280x1024 @ 60 Hz
[00:26] <Zimbo> Leonel: sorry, ignore that, I read your request incorrectly
[00:26] <user__> georgy_28 terminal was still open from lscpi. so I'm now on my desktop in the terminal in /Desktop
[00:26] <leonel_> Zimbo: no problem
[00:26] <Maizcul> No keyboard layout for sony vaio? what would you recommend as closest?
[00:26] <wiijii> etherael possibly, but I've not heard of it being done. Have you looked around for others who might have done it?
[00:26] <leonel_> Zimbo: but you have any idea?
[00:26] <Zimbo> Leonel: (let me try again) -- How is your computer at home hooked to the Internet?  Cable modem?  DSL?  If there a router involved...?
[00:27] <wiijii> ethrael and what is the advantage of having two X servers using two cards...?
[00:27] <olivier^^> Hi, I just installed ubuntu et <i can't connect to the wired network, I don't have the Auto eth0
[00:27] <etherael> wiijii, That's why I'm here.
[00:27] <Zimbo> And what OSes are your home and school PCs running?
[00:27] <georgy_28> user__,  : sudo mv madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3879-20081204.tar.gz  /usr/local
[00:27] <leonel_> Zimbo: actually...
[00:27] <etherael> wiijii, more usable screen space.
[00:27] <wiijii> etherael Fair enough. Afraid I've never done that with X, so I'm not sure
[00:28] <leonel_> my pc at job is running ubuntu and i have win in my home
[00:28] <filthpig> Maizcul: try googling for it a little, normally you're not alone on such problems. I'm off to bed.. Way too late, as always :( night all
[00:28] <wiijii> etherael What sort of screen space? Can you not use multiple desktops?
[00:28] <prahal_> Zimbo, well could be 8M (installing on mine would take 5.5M including apache2) ... could well be that it trigger upgrade of half your current distribution if you had not upgraded for a long while
[00:28] <Ferrous> would anyone like to troubleshoot my external usb-interface hard drive?
[00:28] <leonel_> i can use this conncetion in the lan, you know 192.168....
[00:28] <user__> georgy_28 didn't do anythink apart from askin for my pw
[00:29] <leonel_> but i don't know how to connect from outside form example from my home
[00:29] <Zimbo> prahel: This machine is 8.04.  I might "pull the trigger" and install it anyway... in a bit.
[00:29] <georgy_28> user_: that's ok, type your password
[00:29] <sirjoebob> how can I install a new module in webmin?
[00:29] <user__> georgy_28 oh and the file diesappeared from my dektop
[00:29] <etherael> wiijii, Ideally I like to code with three screens, one for doco one for code layout and one for execution / display / debug
[00:30] <Zimbo> leonel: OK, gotcha... if your home PC is 192.168..., that would imply there a router between your home PC and the Internet.  There are two things you should do: (1) Set your home PC to a fixed IP address, and then (2) forward port 22 (SSH) on your router to the fixed IP of your home PC
[00:30] <georgy_28> user_ great, now type cd /usr/local
[00:30] <smee2> what folder is .bachrc in?
[00:30] <wiijii> Etherael, So you have a third monitor?
[00:30] <Zimbo> leonel: Doing #2 is a function of the manufacturer/model of router you're using... they're all similar, however... if you know the model we can probably find a web page that describes the process
[00:30] <wiijii> etherael, So you have a third monitor?
[00:30] <rellik> anybody here have success with external webcams?  I plug my logitech quick cam in, and it shows up as /dev/video0, and from both lsusb (correctly identified) and lsmod (is using usbcore and videodev)..  so it seems it was correctly detected, but 'cheese' and 'easycam-gtk' both report that there is no webcam on the system..  any ideas what's going on?
[00:30] <etherael> wiijii, yep, two monitors attached to one card, third monitor attached to the onboard.
[00:31] <user__> georgy_28 ok
[00:31] <wiijii> etherael, Aaaah sorry, I thought you just wanted another X server... on the same monitor! Heh, stupid. Yeah I use two monitors, couldn't do without them
[00:31] <prahal_> smee2, ~/
[00:31] <nova_> can anyone help with getting ibex 64bit to work with my Logitech MX 620?
[00:31] <smee2> cd ..
[00:31] <georgy_28> user : tar xvzf madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3879-20081204.tar.gz
[00:31] <smee2> oops
[00:32] <jordo2323> What do you do if an update is stuck in the middle and won't go further? Hasn't for twenty minutes. The terminal details states its stuck on gedit and I have full internet connectivity obviously....
[00:32] <leonel_> Zimbo: ok, so what about if I want to do same thing in two computer at home, can i redirect to ip address in my router?
[00:32] <Zimbo> leonel: Also (3) -- You need to know the actual Internet IP address of your DSL/cable modem connection.  It might (probably does) change from time to time, and you use something like dyndns.org to "fix" that problem, but let's worry about that later. For right now, from your home machine, just go to something like http://www.myipis.org/ and note down what it tells you.
[00:32] <user__> georgy_28 done.    Oh, how i hate xchat here. when i click on another place down in the bar ubuntu doens't change to there, i must first minimize xchat. whith other progs it works.
[00:32] <wiijii> etherael I see what you mean, but is it possible to be using two different graphics drivers simultaneously? Or for one driver to control two GPUs?
[00:32] <vahnx> how do you create a drop down menu on a panel for your documents in xfce
[00:32] <vahnx> i had one before but cannot recreate it
[00:32] <smee2> ﻿prahal_: is it hidden?  i can't seem to find it
[00:33] <etherael> wiijii, I am not sure you can tell a single X process to do that, but I can't imagine you can't just run a second X display and say "hey there's a card at this PCI bus please talk only to it and use driver x"
[00:33] <leonel_> Zimbo: ok, so what about if I want to do same thing in two computer at home, can i redirect to ip address in my router?
[00:33] <user__> georgy_28 many erros
[00:33] <prahal_> smee2, yes . Every dot<file> are hidden
[00:33] <Zimbo> leonel: If you have multiple PCs at home, what you have to do is either (1) get your ISP to provide you with multiple IP addresses (usually costs money, so this is not at all a common practice) or (2) you decide to use a non-standard port on the Internet for SSH to the 2nd PC (instead of port 22, use, e.g., 2222), and then have the router direct port 22 to PC #1 (port 22) and port 2222 to PC #2 (port 22)
[00:34] <Zimbo> leonel: (The second method there is pretty common...)
[00:34] <georgy_28> user_ : know we must be sure that you have all the packages to build the driver : sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:34] <vahnx> how do i disable minimize effects with compiz disabled and keeping the window contents when dragging
[00:34] <wiijii> etherael Sounds interesting, I'd never considered it
[00:34] <Lagos> Interesting. Native Command Queuing is available but turned off on every sata drive I have. I know I can do echo 31 > /sys/block/sdb/device/queue_depth to turn that on.
[00:34] <viniciusfs> anyone can help me with intel wireless 4965 agn?
[00:34] <Lagos> But I wonder where it's being set this way.
[00:34] <wiijii> etherael Have you asked about in the xorg channel or similar?
[00:34] <user__> georgy_28 can't open - no such file or directory   a hundred times  and then in the end: error finishing caused by previous errors
[00:34] <Lagos> My impression was it'd be off by default.
[00:34] <prahal_> you can switch hidden visbility in nautilus Ctrl+H
[00:34] <leonel_> Zimbo: Perfect!! thank a lot !!
[00:34] <etherael> wiijii, That's a good idea, thanks, I'll check there.
[00:34] <albertolempira> hey guys anyone knows how can i get 4.0 sound on a Realtek ALC662?, I already have 6.0 sound but this option don't let me use the mic input and i only have 2.0 and 6.0 sound options...
[00:34] <Zimbo> leonel: Sure thing, good luck!
[00:35] <georgy_28> user_ : sudo tar xvzf file
[00:35] <wiijii> etherael Good luck, let me know if you find out anything anytime soon
[00:35] <smee2> ﻿prahal_: what's nautilus?
[00:35] <Lagos> Er, on by default.
[00:36] <Zimbo> leonel: I should mention that when you start nxclient from school you of course have to tell it that PC #2 is using port 2222 as well :-)
[00:36] <prahal_> smee2, the file manager
[00:36] <leonel> Zimbo:  you are missing  a  _   that's   not me :)
[00:36] <user__> georgy_28 instead of file i copy the name of the thing i downloaded from the website?
[00:36] <georgy_28> user_ : yes, but do a ls and pastebin please
[00:37] <Zimbo> leonel: Ah, I see... IRC appends a "_" when a second user of the same name signs on then?  Interesting.
[00:37] <smee2> ﻿prahal_: awesome, i found it.  thanks a lot.
[00:38] <lolboi> hey guys i tired installing java got to the agreement page and closed it sice i thouht it was done, now i try opening synaptic and i get this error : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:38] <lolboi> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[00:38] <lolboi>  what do i do?
[00:38] <prahal_> so there is no way to use cups-pdf if one has a 2.6.28 kernel (no apparmor anymore) ?
[00:38] <prahal_> your welcome
[00:38] <nbeebo> how can u see icons with conky?
[00:38] <user__> georgy_28 now it worked. this time i didn't copa from here but i typed it letter by letter
[00:38] <Maizcul> anyone got any ideas on laptop fn key?
[00:38] <Guest43923> what software can be used (for windows) to create a flash drive
[00:38] <Guest43923> flash drive usb bootable
[00:39] <nbeebo> program for windows? #windows...
[00:39] <user__> georgy_28 now i do the sudo apt-get install build-essential thing?
[00:39] <FishieFoo> Transmission BitTorrent client downloaded 5GB, but the destination folder only has 4MB... what's wrong with it?
[00:39] <rellik> anybody here have success with external webcams?  I plug my logitech quick cam in, and it shows up as /dev/video0, and from both lsusb (correctly identified) and lsmod (is using usbcore and videodev)..  so it seems it was correctly detected, but 'cheese' and 'easycam-gtk' both report that there is no webcam on the system..  any ideas what's going on?
[00:39] <prahal_> lolboi, I would dpkg -P <java_package_name> and reinstall (though you should report the issue there is a bug
[00:39] <x[Mop]x> Hey - How can I get cpu temperature nformation in Ubuntu server?
[00:39] <nbeebo> why does conky cover up my icons
[00:39] <georgy_28> user_: yes
[00:40] <z4chh> anyone have experience with goffice...i can't seem to find much documentation on it
[00:40] <z4chh> ?
[00:40] <FishieFoo> nevermind. found the destination folder changed.
[00:41] <prahal_> rellik, about success yes (uvc webcam , cheese 2.24)
[00:41] <user__> georgy_28 ok. http://pastebin.com/m4e643ee0
[00:41] <rellik> prahal_, what's "uvc" ?
[00:41] <rellik> a brank?
[00:41] <rellik> brand
[00:41] <prahal_> rellik, lshal |less then / and video0
[00:41] <prahal_> rellik, a class of webcam (standardized)
[00:42] <Maizcul> I'm still failing at the fn keys, any ideas? i'm totally stumped :s
[00:42] <leonel_> "It might (probably does) change from time to time, and you use something like dyndns.org to "fix" that problem" anybody knows how to fix it?
[00:42] <prahal_> rellik, I ll try with my gspca webcam on this computer (my only ubuntu)
[00:42] <rellik> prahal_, lshal doesn't have video0..   I'm not familiar with lshal..  what is a HAL device?
[00:42] <prahal_> other are debian and gspca driven webcams works . What is the driver of your webcam (lshw)
[00:43] <leonel_> "It might (probably does) change from time to time, and you use something like dyndns.org to "fix" that problem" anybody knows how to fix it?
[00:43] <georgy_28> user__, : ok, know do a cd to the madwifi repository ( to help type madwifi and then tab key to complete)
[00:43] <user__> georgy_28 it says it's already latest version and that some packets are no longer needed  and that 0 things have ben actualized, 0  newly installed, 0 removed
[00:43] <nbeebo> anyone know how i can have some kind of note on desktop?
[00:43] <wiijii> xnotes?
[00:43] <duarte> duarte
[00:43] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_ : are you talking about your IP address?
[00:43] <georgy_28> user__, : don't care
[00:43] <user__> georgy_28 am there
[00:44] <duarte> hallo
[00:44] <nbeebo> nah i mean like ... hmm
[00:44] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: yes
[00:44] <zzlyzq> it is hello
[00:44] <zzlyzq> hehe
[00:44] <prahal_> rellik, hal is a software layer that register every device and its capabilities and provides this data to applications . Nowadays most applications ask to the hal laye for to know if a device is there, if it is a webcam , etc
[00:44] <georgy_28> user_: type sudo make
[00:44] <x[Mop]x> Hey - How can I get cpu temperature information in Ubuntu server?
[00:44] <nbeebo> decorationless note.. like conky
[00:45] <zzlyzq> maybe 'dmesg' command
[00:45] <uc50ic4more> leonel_: you can sign up for an account @ dyndns.com, install a program called ddclient, and it will keep your dyndns.org account; let's say leonel.dyndns.org, pointed to your IP
[00:45] <rellik> prahal_, weird..  neither lshal nor lshw show my webcam..  but lsmod and lsusb do
[00:45] <nbeebo> x[mop]x maybe try
[00:45] <user__> georgy_28 it's making
[00:45] <prahal_> rellik, what about lshw ? I am interested and in the driver attachd to the webcam
[00:45] <nbeebo> !info hddtemp
[00:45] <georgy_28> user__, : sudo make install
[00:45] <x[Mop]x> Nbeebo: In the console?
[00:45] <Maizcul> Fn key makes me sad =[
[00:45] <prahal_> lsusb is not that helpful in that it shows devices even when there is no driver
[00:45] <rellik> prahal_, nope not in lshw
[00:46] <user__> gerogy_28 it has not yet finished the make
[00:46] <xclonx> ham?
[00:46] <prahal_> lsmod ... what does it tell you about your webcam ?
[00:46] <nbeebo> x[mop]x its a program so "sudo aptitude install hddtemp" then "man hddtemp" to see how u use it i guess
[00:46] <xclonx> sugi pula?
[00:46] <user__> gerogy_28 some error messages occurred
[00:46] <Lagos> So is Native Command Queuing disabled by default in Linux?
[00:46] <x[Mop]x> Ok, thanks
[00:46] <georgy_28> user_ : ok, when finish do the next command
[00:46] <Thorgrimr> If I have VPNC configured, shouldn't I be able to add it to Network Manager as a VPN connection?
[00:46] <nbeebo> whats the program u remove window decorations? i forgot
[00:46] <user__> georgy_28 now making install
[00:46] <rellik> prahal_, according to lsmod it's using usbcore and videodev
[00:47] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: and when I want to use Nomachine to connect to that ip, will it work?
[00:47] <nbeebo> whats the program to remove window decorations? i forgot
[00:47] <nova_> anyone? any help with my usb mouse situation?
[00:48] <user__> georgy_28 finished
[00:48] <prahal_> rellik, those are not webcam drivers (usbcore is for the usb managment and videodev is a layer for video but cannot drive a webcam by itself
[00:48] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: sorry, i am not familiar w/ Nomachine, but anyhting that needs your IP to connect ought to be able to use yourname.dyndns.org to connect to you
[00:48] <NotSoSuperMario> Hey can someone help me with a dumb syntax question? /home/geoff/source ! -name *.svn -exec cp '{}' /home/geoff/destination \; will copy all the files in the source directory to the destination, but it doesn't preserve subdirectories
[00:48] <prahal_> rellik, do you have gspca
[00:48] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: my cable internet IP changes perhaps once, twice per year, but some DSL people I know have theirs change daily, upon boot up
[00:48] <rellik> prahal_, not unless it came with ubuntu..  haven't used a webcam with this box before
[00:48] <nbeebo> how do i remove title bars?
[00:48] <NotSoSuperMario> how can I get it to preserve subdirectories will still filtering out .svn files?
[00:48] <Maizcul> anyone help with the laptop fn key not working issue?
[00:49] <user__> georgy_28 and now?
[00:49] <NotSoSuperMario> while still*
[00:49] <georgy_28> user_ : now do sudo depmod -a, then reboot. If everthing goes well, if you type iwconfig in a terminal, normally your wifi device must be there
[00:49] <nbeebo> how do u remove window decorations??????????
[00:49] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: I have cable too, and want to use a remote desktop like VCN
[00:49] <user__> georgy_28 is this non free as well or is this one free?
[00:49] <rellik> prahal_, apt-cache shows gspca-source and easygspca (description in french)..  either of those what I need?
[00:49] <georgy_28> user__, it's free
[00:49] <fightskillz> .
[00:49] <Maizcul> nbeebo: try sudo shutdown
[00:50] <nbeebo> !report
[00:50] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: then yes, DynDNS is your perfect solution -- I admin several machines using VNC and my clients DynDNS accounts
[00:50] <remi> what would be the best way to know *live* which processes are using the most network resources? something like "iptraf" but with the associated process name?
[00:50] <wiijii> remi I think there was a post on slashdot recently about something similar
[00:50] <albertolempira> hey guys anyone knows how can i get 4.0 sound on a Realtek ALC662?, I already have 6.0 sound but this option don't let me use the mic input and i only have 2.0 and 6.0 sound options...
[00:51] <prahal_> rellik, lsmod |grep zc0301 ?
[00:51] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: the DynDNS site has info also on how to set up ddclient, but the installation of ddclient is pretty self explanatory, in that it is a text-based installer that prompts you for some info
[00:51] <nbeebo> how do u remove window decorations??????????
[00:51] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: I know that I have to forward the port 22 to my internal IP, I don't want to loose the possibility to connect to my home computer because the Public ip change
[00:51] <rellik> prahal_, nothing
[00:51] <prahal_> rellik, I would sudo apt-get install gspca-source
[00:51] <user__> georgy_28 ok, done. thank you very much. Good to hear it's free. i like free more than closed- and actually the free driver for my ati graphics card woks better than the non-free one that has no stable image
[00:52] <remi> wiijii: thanks, I'll look that way :)
[00:52] <user__> georgy_28 so i will reboot now, see you in a few minutes
[00:52] <prahal_> rellik, in the mean time I ll try to find out if your webcam is supported by gspca or another driver (gspca could not hurt being installed though)
[00:52] <georgy_28> user__, : ok
[00:52] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: whatever is responsible for your public IP (let's say a router, for example) should have the facility to report the IP to DynDNS.. then, you forward port 22 to the machine you want, and make sure the target machine is open on port 22 and has a VNC server, etc.
[00:52] <rellik> prahal_, got it..  but not sure how to use it
[00:52] <prahal_> rellik, could you tell me lsusb output for your webcam ?
[00:53] <openly> hi
[00:53] <rellik> prahal_, Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[00:53] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: having said that, the ddclient software *takes into account* if you are behind a router IIRC.. the better option, though, is to set up "DDNS" on your router
[00:53] <NotSoSuperMario> oh, I missed a bit. I meant to say ﻿"find ﻿/home/geoff/source ! -name *.svn -exec cp '{}' /home/geoff/destination \;" won't copy sub-directories, just the files in them. Can anyone tell me how to get it to preserve the file tree while still filtering out SVN files?
[00:54] <nbeebo> well cya all except selfish id**ts like <Maizcul>
[00:54] <leonel_> @uc50ic4more: Ok, I'll try it, Thanks a lot man!!!
[00:54] <badawi>   !ping
[00:54] <uc50ic4more> @leonel_: no problem!
[00:55] <prahal_> any dkms user could tell how to install a module via dkms (without rebooting that , that I know of
[00:56] <TGLL> I heard that ubuntu is some derivative of Debian.
[00:56] <Maizcul> anyone got ideas on how to get laptops fn keys to work?
[00:56] <uc50ic4more> @prahal_: i *thought* that having the dkms package installed attended to updating kernel modules automagically
[00:57] <Flannel> TGLL: Debian is the rock on which Ubuntu is built, yes,
[00:57] <Nick924em> TGLL, it is based on Debian
[00:57] <Maizcul> It's a Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP if that helps at all :/
[00:57] <uc50ic4more> @prahal_: meaning that i was not aware that any kernel module needed to be installed "via dkms"
[00:57] <TGLL> So, is it somehow better than Debian?
[00:57] <TGLL> or easier to set up?
[00:57] <prahal_> uc50ic4more, don't know yet . I have a 2.6.28 kernel and everyting I need is included
[00:57] <prahal_> thanks
[00:57] <[e]Lement> The server vesion is the exact same to setup
[00:57] <[e]Lement> The desktop version is much easier
[00:58] <Nick924em> TGLL, dont you think we'd be a bit biased to answer that? :)
[00:58] <uc50ic4more> @prahal_: my only experience with this issue is VirtualBox , which suggest installing dkms to auto matically update the kernel modules
[00:58] <Maizcul> easier to set up i'd say
[00:58] <Flannel> TGLL: It tries to accomplish different goals.  One of which is ease of use (and set up), yes
[00:58] <[e]Lement> TGLL, are you looking to use it for a Desktop or a Server?
[00:59] <TGLL> I'm just interested in using it for a home PC.
[00:59] <[e]Lement> Yeah, it's alot easier to setup and use.
[00:59] <TGLL> And as with Linux in general, it's worth the trouble because of all the free open-source software out there.
[01:00] <[e]Lement> Compared to Debian, of course. If you were going to be using it for a server, I would have just told you to use Debian.
[01:00] <user__> georgy_28 no, no success  :-(
[01:00] <Maizcul> trouble, what trouble?
[01:00] <sloopy> TGLL, in my opinion ubuntu is a more refined and user ready desktop os
[01:00] <badawi> in NetworkManager, i need help setting the routes for vpn, the "Editing IPv4 routes" dialog, i don't understand this window, what's prefix and metric, all i want is to have all 192.22.22.0/24 traffic go thru vpn which the connection creates
[01:00] <prahal_> rellik, ok you want sudo apt-get install qc-usb-source
[01:00] <[e]Lement> sloopy, agreed.
[01:00] <user__> georgy_28 no wireless extensions
[01:00] <prahal_> http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[01:00] <Guest43923> I'm live booting from a USB... fdisk -l only lists the USB in /dev/sdaX
[01:00] <Guest43923> How do I list the hard drive itself
[01:01] <prahal_> Guest43923, fdisk -l /dev/sdb ?
[01:01] <Maizcul> is there somewhere i can browse through a list of extra keyboard setups?
[01:01] <TGLL> How is the technical support for ubuntu?
[01:01] <georgy_28> user_ : strange, go to the madwifi repository i usr/local , do sudo make and pastebin the output please
[01:02] <sloopy> TGLL, debian is mostly designed to be a stable reliable OS, whereas ubuntu is more trying to be a workable and decent desktop OS for the people looking for a windows alternative
[01:02] <[e]Lement> But it's still stable
[01:02] <TGLL> not quite as stable as Windows?
[01:02] <sloopy> TGLL, both debian and ubuntu have alot of support
[01:02] <[e]Lement> Ubuntu is far-more stable than Windows XP
[01:02] <sloopy> TGLL, much more stable then windows
[01:02] <TGLL> or vista?
[01:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, far more stable than Windows, not as stable as Debian stable
[01:02] <rellik> prahal_, cool..  so now I've downloaded the source, and I'm ready to make it..  but where do source packages live?
[01:03] <sloopy> only thing less stable then vista is Me
[01:03] <damagu> Hi all, I am having trouble getting tap-to-click disabled on my trackpad. I have tried following advice on different forum posts but it hasn't worked. I installed gsynaptics but when I run it I get this error:"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics". I tried adding the line 'Option "SHMConfig" "true"' to my xorg.conf... but that didn't work... I tried "on" instead of
[01:03] <[e]Lement> TGLL, Vista has gotten alot better.  They are releasing a new OS tho.  Microsoft Windows 7 is due out in June / July of 2009
[01:03] <Nick924em> How would i back up all files with filenames starting with journal   ... like journal1 journal2 etc...that are in /home/whoever/ with rsync?
[01:03] <Maizcul> Tbh, you can only use stable and windows in the same sentan
[01:03] <Lagos> Debian and Ubuntu have very similar code bases. Ubuntu tends to make more desktop-friendly configuration choices in the default install. Ubuntu generally has a more extensive set of audio card drivers enabled in the default kernel, for example.
[01:03] <Maizcul> sentance* when is not is placed between
[01:03] <[e]Lement> And Microsoft Windows 7 is really really good.  But that aside.  But yes, Ubuntu works best out of box.
[01:04] <prahal_> rellik, /usr/src though it should have been  build and installed automagically by dkms
[01:04] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Lagos, there's very little practical difference - I use both regularly - Ubuntu is a bit more newbie friendly
[01:04] <TGLL> How can one have a better desktop than the other, if KDE and GNOME are the same?
[01:04] <prahal_> you just need to unplug then plug the camera
[01:04] <Lagos> I've seen some notable differences in driver support in the default kernels, Jewfro.
[01:04] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, both are nice, it's a preference
[01:04] <[e]Lement> I prefer GNOME
[01:04] <Maveas> [e]Lement: srly? is it THAT GOOD?
[01:04] <Lagos> Userland is very similar.
[01:05] <user__> georgy_28 http://pastebin.com/m3ff0194e
[01:05] <sloopy> TGLL, kde and gnome are very configurable, each has its good/bad sides
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Lagos, haven't noticed as I've standard older hardware I guess
[01:05] <[e]Lement> Yeah, Memory Management was entirely rewritten.  So it's not a resource hog anymore.
[01:05] <damagu> Oh I also tried adding the option "Movtaptime" (or whatever it was) "0" and someone else said set it to "2" which didn't work either
[01:05] <rellik> prahal_, interesting.. never really understood source packages..  so they get downloaded as source, then compiled locally instead of downloaded as a precompiled package?
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, but I frequently compile my own using latest kernel.org sources anyway
[01:05] <mker> TGLL, Gnome and KDE is a matter of taste. You can use KDE apps in Gnome and Gnome apps in KDE.
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Lagos, but I frequently compile my own using latest kernel.org sources anyway
[01:05] <georgy_28> user_ : do the same with sudo make install
[01:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TGLL, ignore that
[01:05] <Maveas> [e]Lement: sweet.. so how better in performance compared to vista is 7?
[01:05] <Lagos> Yeah.
[01:06] <TGLL> Is the KDE desktop the same in all linux distributions?
[01:06] <sloopy> TGLL, and have both installed on one machine, (like i prefer gnome and my mrs prefers kde)
[01:06] <Flannel> TGLL: Not exactly the same, but similar, yes
[01:06] <TGLL> Is the gNOME desktop the same in all linux distributions?
[01:06] <Flannel> TGLL: Not exactly the same, but similar, yes
[01:06] <prahal_> rellik, well usually you unzip them then ./configure, make, make install . Though the kernel modules for ubuntu are done automtically if you use the package they provide
[01:06] <[e]Lement> Maveas, it is a pre-beta version.  But people have it running better than Vista, on 1 GB of RAM
[01:06] <Nick924em> How would i back up all files with filenames starting with journal   ... like journal1 journal2 etc...that are in /home/whoever/ with rsync?
[01:06] <Ninina> I had to force a reboot of X and when it came back all my icons had changed and they are very ugly, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:06] <TGLL> So, the KDE project makes different versions for different distributions?
[01:06] <Maveas> [e]Lement: But HOW much? :)
[01:07] <Flannel> TGLL: no, the distros customize them theirselves
[01:07] <Maveas> [e]Lement: 10%, 20%, 30% or higher?
[01:07] <zzlyzq> I am registing a channel in freenode.net ,but it want my "GPG or PGP public key" how do i get it !!!!!
[01:07] <Flannel> Maveas, [e]Lement: Please take the windows discussin elsewhere.  perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[01:07] <user__> georgy_28 http://pastebin.com/m54e64988
[01:07] <[e]Lement> As far as I know percentages were not calculated yet.  But startup, shutdown, and everything else is faster.  Plus all Vista apps are compatable.  But I am sure Ubuntu will still be more stable.
[01:07] <[e]Lement> Flannel, it was relating to Ubuntu
[01:07] <rellik> prahal_, cool..  I do see the file they wanted me to insmod is now at: /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/ubuntu/qc-usb/quickcam.ko...       do I actually have to insmod it everytime or should it just get automatically used (I just unplugged/replugged it and it didn't show up in lsmod)
[01:07] <mker> zzlyzq, Applications -> Accessories -> Passwords and encryption keys
[01:08] <badawi> Edit IPv4 routes in network manager seems buggy
[01:08] <prahal_> Ninina, probably a theme was removed before you restarted X . gnome-appearance-properties
[01:08] <TGLL> zzlyzq, what would be the purpose of your new channel?
[01:08] <zzlyzq> thankyou
[01:08] <dn_> anyone have any recommendations for deleting the data on a hard drive that has a ReiserFS?
[01:08] <zzlyzq> mker thanks
[01:08] <Maizcul> Vista was windows MEv2, Windows 7 is more like XPv2 :P
[01:08] <Flannel> [e]Lement: I know.  It was, it has since moved away from that.
[01:08] <Flannel> dn_: shred
[01:08] <mib_zbgxvl> hi all im trying to install java-jdk on my machine but keep getting this error - http://www.mibbit.com/pb/YWMYAJ - whats wrong with my machine?
[01:08] <damagu> ﻿Hi all, I am having trouble getting tap-to-click disabled on my trackpad. I have tried following advice on different forum posts but it hasn't worked. I installed gsynaptics but when I run it I get this error:"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics". I tried adding the line 'Option "SHMConfig" "true"' to my xorg.conf... but that didn't work... I tried "on" instead
[01:08] <dmsuperman> Maizcul: Take the offtopic elsewhere
[01:08] <dn_> man shred says shred isn't useful for reiser
[01:08] <georgy_28> user__,  there is no error, try a sudo modprobe ath_pci and then a iwconfig
[01:09] <dn_> but is that only for deleting single files? i want to clear the whole drivce
[01:09] <dn_> drive*
[01:09] <Ninina> prahal: when I use that only the appearance window changes everything else stays the same
[01:09] <mker> dn_, check out dban
[01:09] <uc50ic4more> @Nick924em: that sounds tricky -- i am sure it's possible, but may require some shell scripting; meaning i am unsure if rsync has that facility itself
[01:09] <Flannel> dn_: shred will do while drives, files, etc.
[01:09] <prahal_> rellik,  hum weird . You could add it in the meantime to /etc/modules. Does the camera work with the module :  "sudo modprobe quickam"
[01:09] <zzlyzq> TGLL My school is organized a commity about linux ,we are in China,we also need linux.
[01:09] <dn_> Flannel: even in light of it not working well on reiser?
[01:09] <mker> dn_, if you want to delete everything on the drive it doesn't matter what filesystem you used :)
[01:09] <Nick924em> dang ok, thanks uc50ic4more ill poke around google for a bit and see what comes up :)
[01:10] <Hermanon> hi,am trying to connectt through my mobile broadband ,when i set the network(on mob) to gprs it connects and works,but when i set it to umts (the one i want) it refuses to connect please help?
[01:10] <Maizcul> It wasn't that far offtopic tbh ... i'm failing at getting my keyboard working right >.>
[01:10] <Flannel> dn_: If you're really worried about it, reformat the partition to FAT or something, then shred it.
[01:10] <dn_> yea that's what i figured
[01:10] <Lagos> Are you trying to wipe all data on the drive or one particular file?
[01:10] <dn_> "no where to hide" :P
[01:10] <user__> georgy_28: http://pastebin.com/m79185237
[01:10] <rellik> prahal_, modprobing quickcam worked, but still 'cheese' reports no webcam :(
[01:11] <badawi> anyone for a routing question with NetworkManager? -> i need help setting the routes for vpn, the "Editing IPv4 routes" dialog, what's prefix and metric, all i want is to have all 192.22.22.0/24 traffic go thru vpn which the connection creates
[01:11] <georgy_28> user_ : yes, ath0 is your wifi
[01:11] <mker> dn_, http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[01:11] <zzlyzq> mker i can't find "passwords and encryption keys"
[01:11] <AguchoB> guys ive got a rpoblem
[01:11] <dn_> thanks mker, i had a look at that
[01:11] <AguchoB> i can install hardy perfectly but not intrepid
[01:11] <Lagos> The objection to using shred for Reiser is that it is journaled, according to the man page. IIRC, by default Reiser only journals metadata.
[01:11] <prahal_> rellik, does it also build a qc-usb driver or only quickam ?
[01:11] <zzlyzq> My linux version is fedora 10.
[01:12] <AguchoB> one thing i notice is taht when i put the intrepid cd it doesnt load the core
[01:12] <dn_> i'm a bit noobish.. what is metadata?
[01:12] <Nick924em> AguchoB, you sure that's a 'problem'? hint hint 8.04 > 8.10
[01:12] <Lagos> Data is what is in a file.
[01:12] <openly> could anyone tell me how i can look into getting my zte mf622 working?
[01:12] <bazhang> zzlyzq, #fedora
[01:12] <user__> georgy_28 but after restart the ath0 thing didn't show up. only now.
[01:12] <Lagos> metadata is the file name, the file owner, the contents of directories, etc.
[01:12] <AguchoB> yes couse now on hardy recently installed
[01:12] <mker> zzlyzq, why don't you ask in the fedora channel then? the program is actually called seahorse, don't know what Fedora calls it.
[01:12] <AguchoB> i put hardy un run perfect
[01:12] <user__> georgy_28  YES!!!!!! now it works
[01:12] <AguchoB> i put intrepid and doesnt
[01:12] <georgy_28> user__,  : yes, it don't load at startup
[01:12] <openly> i'm getting an ip address from the device but can't ping
[01:12] <bazhang> zzlyzq, this is ubuntu support please /join #fedora
[01:12] <damagu> rellik: have you checked that your webcam is enabled in the bios?
[01:12] <mker> AguchoB, onemesg
[01:12] <mker> AguchoB, Please keep your question in *one* message. It makes it easier for us to read and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[01:13] <AguchoB> sorry..
[01:13] <user__> georgy_28: i see netwoks now! :-) Thank you!
[01:13] <Lagos> By journaling metadata only the goal is to keep the filesystem structure itself consistent. It doesn't protect data. This is the default behavior in ext3 and if I recall in Reiser.
[01:13] <georgy_28> user__, wait, we are not finish  we have to say to start at startup
[01:13] <Nick924em> AguchoB, what's in 8.10 that you need that's not in 8.04?
[01:13] <user__> georgy_28: it doesn't load at start up?  So i must perfom the make and the make install each time i start the comp?
[01:13] <prahal_> rellik, you should take a look at "dmesg" output after plugging the camera
[01:13] <AguchoB> nothing just testing....
[01:13] <user__> georgy_28 ah
[01:13] <[e]Lement> Reiser killed his wife
[01:13] <uc50ic4more> @Nick924em: i just found some info, loosely related to your rsync issue, using "find" w/ rsync -- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/rsync-only-backup-recently-modified-files-360046/
[01:14] <user__> georgy_28 ok
[01:14] <Hermanon> hi,am trying to connectt through my mobile broadband ,when i set the network(on mob) to gprs it connects and works,but when i set it to umts (the one i want) it refuses to connect please help?
[01:14] <rellik> prahal_, how would I tell?  I checked the same dir (kernel/ubuntu/qc-usb/) where quickcam.ko lives and there are no other files
[01:14] <badawi> !ping > badawi
[01:14] <AguchoB> some guys tellme that in 8.10 linux resolve the problem with ati card the flickering problem
[01:14] <Nick924em> uc50ic4more, ty :)  I'll check it out thanks!
[01:14] <rellik> prahal_, one sec..  lemme check dmesg
[01:14] <damagu> ﻿prahal_ I had trouble with my webcam and found it needed to be enabled in the bios
[01:14] <Smegzor> Is there any software for sending faxes in linux?  I couldn't see much in the repo.
[01:14] <dn_> thanks Lagos (and others :))
[01:14] <georgy_28> user__,  sudo gedit /etc/modules and add at the end of the file ath_pci and save
[01:15] <dn_> an annoying question, but any idea how long dban would take on on a 160gb SATA drive?
[01:15] <dn_> or how long shred would take
[01:15] <damagu> ﻿Hi all, I am having trouble getting tap-to-click disabled on my trackpad. I have tried following advice on different forum posts but it hasn't worked. I installed gsynaptics but when I run it I get this error:"GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics". I tried adding the line 'Option "SHMConfig" "true"' to my xorg.conf... but that didn't work... I tried "on" instead
[01:15] <AguchoB> for me it a bug with the intrepid install and sata drivers...
[01:15] <prahal_> damagu, yep for internal camera (I had the same issue on this eeepc :) but this quickam express is external I bet
[01:15] <dn_> want to work out if i should fire up my old server and run it in that or just take some downtime on the computer with the drive
[01:16] <Lagos> The default number of iterations is 25. On a 7.2 RPM SATA drive you're probably looking at 50 MB/s sustained write speed (conservative).
[01:16] <Maizcul> depends on HDD speed
[01:16] <rellik> prahal_, dmesg output: http://pastie.org/331484
[01:16] <damagu> prahal_ have you tried disabling click to tap on your eeepc... that's what I'mhaving trouble with?
[01:16] <dn_> a rough estimate
[01:16] <rellik> damagu, it's a USB webcam so I don't know that my bios knows anything about it
[01:16] <AguchoB> any know why happens this issue?
[01:16] <user__> georgy_28 at the end of what file?
[01:16] <Lagos> So one iteration of 160 GB will probably take 53 minutes.
[01:17] <Lagos> 25 of them will take a day.
[01:17] <dn_> i read that shred -z would take like 3 days
[01:17] <georgy_28> user__,  /etc/modules
[01:17] <damagu> ﻿rellik: sorry. I just fixed my internal one via the bios
[01:17] <user__> georgy_28  "andy@ubuntu:/usr/local/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3879-20081204$  sudo gedit /etc/modules/ath_pci
[01:17] <user__> "?
[01:17] <Lagos> Assuming a write speed of 50 MB/s. Can you execute a command for me, dn?
[01:18] <dn_> sure
[01:18] <Lagos> sudo hdparm -t /dev/<yourdrive>
[01:18] <Lagos> Where your drive is sda or sdb or whatever.
[01:18] <prahal_> damagu, it is disabled by default with my current version of the elanteck driver for xorg (I had to build it from alioth /~dsalt-guest/eee
[01:18] <georgy_28> user__,  no, just sudo gedit /etc/modules end add ath_pci at the end
[01:18] <badawi> ok for my routing question, filling in Address: 192.22.22.0 Prefix: 24 Gateway: 0.0.0.0 Metric: 0 seems to work
[01:18] <Lagos> This won't destroy any data. It'll just see how fast it can read from the drive.
[01:18] <user__> georgy_28: ah
[01:18] <user__> ok
[01:18] <dn_> gimme a second, it's copying some files onto an external drive atm
[01:19] <damagu> prahal_ didyou follow a howto for that...I wouldn't know how to do it without instruction
[01:19] <user__> georgy_28: now i can't use the terminal anymore, gotta open a new one
[01:19] <Mal3ko> i was going to post some question regarding pureftpd on ubuntu forum but im not sure whcih section to post to
[01:19] <Mal3ko> Networking & Wireless?
[01:19] <prahal_> damagu, no .. would have to write one
[01:20] <TGLL> I'm eager for a good Windows alternative. And I'm disgusted with SuSE with its lack of support.
[01:20] <uc50ic4more> Mal3ko: that'd be a good place to start, although asking here may save you the trouble :^)
[01:20] <prahal_> no problem in giving you the steps once I got rellik cam to work
[01:20] <topgun17> I figured out foew to get flash working
[01:20] <user__> georgy_28: added. How do i save?
[01:20] <Nick924em> SuSe? ewww didnt they like make nicey nicey with Microsoft awhile back?
[01:20] <Lagos> Actually, your drive speed isn't going to be the bottleneck. It's that shred uses /dev/urandom.
[01:21] <[e]Lement> Oops, wrong button...
[01:21] <[e]Lement> lolol
[01:21] <Lagos> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=24M for me gets a speed of around 6 MB/s.
[01:21] <mker> Is it easier to decrypt something if the password used for the private key is weak or does it just mean it's easier to 'guess' the password when the private key has already been taken?
[01:21] <Ninina> So my desktop changed it's icons to gnome default, but I would like a different set, but when I try to change the theme under system->preferences->apperance nothing happens, I'm using 8.10
[01:21] <georgy_28> user : are you in gedit
[01:22] <uc50ic4more> @mker: just easier to guess, for the most part
[01:22] <rellik> prahal_, I appreciate you helping with this....    did you see my dmesg output?  nothing seems out of the ordinary about it to me, but I don't see which driver it is trying to use
[01:22] <user__> georgy_28 stupid question. i was in the wrong window, hahahaah
[01:22] <Mal3ko> uc50ic4more: hmm ok
[01:22] <user__> georgy_28 i saved it. so now, it's all done?
[01:22] <mker> uc50ic4more, actually now that I think about it it's obvious considering you can change the password, thanks though :)
[01:23] <uc50ic4more> @mal3ko: well, depending on the complexity of your question, of course
[01:23] <paulo_> #ubuntu-es
[01:23] <Mal3ko> i have few things that i don't understand with pure-ftpd...1. how do i change the port?
[01:23] <prahal_> rellik, looks fine and the camera is activated upon insertion :) first step ok . now is xawtv
[01:24] <user__> georgy_28 my question was stupid not yours, heheh, because i was in the wrong window. now i added it and saved it
[01:24] <georgy_28> user__, yes, but when there is a kernel update, you have to go to the madwifi repository, and do sudo make and sudo make again, to compile the driver for the new kernel and reboot.
[01:24] <uc50ic4more> @Mal3ko: i do not recall offhand where the pureftpd .conf file is, but it'd probably be set in there.. alternatively, you could investigate a GUI for pureftpd
[01:24] <Mal3ko> and one more pureftpd is set to runa as service..and how do i find out the cmd startline used to run the pureftpd service?
[01:25] <rellik> prahal_, I have tried 'xawtv -device /dev/video0' ..  but it's gives errors: http://pastie.org/331487
[01:25] <Mal3ko> uc50ic4more: im using ubuntu server here so no gui..everything has be done in cmd
[01:25] <user__> georgy_28 uy, the site you gave me?  i bookmarked it, and then all the commands just like now?  ok. I copied them all to a txt file
[01:25] <prahal_> rellik, does xawtv shows something ?
[01:25] <rellik> nope, just black with "???" as the title
[01:25] <user__> georgy_28 Dank U / Merci beaucoup!
[01:25] <badawi> how is the -server kernel different from the -generic kernel?
[01:25] <prahal_> rellik, ah it is xawtv -c /dev/video0
[01:26] <dn_> Lagos: 65MB/s
[01:26] <prahal_> rellik, oh sorry --device works too
[01:26] <rellik> prahal_, same errors with -c
[01:26] <uc50ic4more> @Mal3ko: honestly, then, you might be best served making a coffee and spending some time here: http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd/doc
[01:26] <Lagos> So are you just deleting one file or the entire drive? And is this data you really don't want, like, the FBI seeing?
[01:27] <georgy_28> user__,  don't need to download, just go to the repository in /usr/local and then sudo make and sudo make install .now reboot to see everything work well
[01:27] <user__> georgy_28 I owe you a lot of thanks!!!!
[01:27] <dn_> i wanna delete the whole drive
[01:27] <user__> will reboot
[01:27] <georgy_28> user__, : keine ursache !!
[01:27] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:28] <uc50ic4more> @Mal3ko: this URL might help as well -- http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19818.html
[01:28] <danthelemon> does anybody know a wirelesscard that will work well with ubuntu
[01:28] <aguchoB> its the flickering problem still in intrepid ibex???
[01:28] <Maizcul> my card is working fine
[01:28] <dn_> i'm in the uk so the fbi probably wouldn't be that interested :P
[01:28] <uc50ic4more> @danthelemon: are you talking desktop or laptop?
[01:29] <rlt> badawi: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel
[01:29] <Nick924em> dn_, you'd be surprised
[01:29] <Maizcul> some random one i picked up cheap about 4 years ago :P
[01:29] <mouka> hi all
[01:29] <dn_> ha, i guess
[01:29] <mouka> anybody has some experience with vsftpd?
[01:29] <dn_> it's more for practice
[01:29] <uc50ic4more> @danthelemon: this page might be of some service to you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:29] <dn_> in case i want to delete a drive
[01:29] <danthelemon> thanks
[01:29] <dn_> a drive with a horrendous amount of warez on it perhaps :P
[01:29] <Tetracomm> I couldn't make Skype calls from I installed it in Ubuntu, it just rings and the other person won't receive my call, help?
[01:29] <Lagos> Alright, so here's the thing.
[01:29] <prahal_> well for me too though I believed it was an issue with my configuration (cheese and skype works well here)
[01:29] <Lagos>  /dev/urandom has abysmal sustained generation of random numbers.
[01:30] <Lagos> I'm seeing 6 MB/s on my box.
[01:30] <mker> Lagos, Please keep your question in *one* message. It makes it easier for us to read and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[01:30] <prahal_> I am trying to find a video grabber that does not use hal
[01:30] <dn_> is /dev/urandom what shred uses?
[01:30] <aguchoB> any one?
[01:31] <Lagos> By default, yes. ANd urandom is faster than random, as I recall. So if you wanted to overwrite your drive with random data and you had a urandom no faster than mine, one pass over the 160 GB drive would take... 7 hours?
[01:31]  * porter1 's hand isn't sealing and he doesn't want to make it worse... ugh!
[01:31] <uc50ic4more> @aguchoB: what flickering problem are you referring to?
[01:31] <gnutron> Lagos: it is supposed to do that. urandom
[01:31] <kopy07> Can someone help me with a webcamera propblem?
[01:31] <Lagos> 25 passes (which is what shred uses) would take 25 times that, so you'd be running for about a week.
[01:31] <mouka> anybody has ever used vsftpd?
[01:31] <aguchoB> ati drivers with hardy when you use.. screen savers or compiz
[01:31] <mker> kopy07, just ask what you want to know and maybe someone can.
[01:32] <mouka> I just need to ask a few questions
[01:32] <uc50ic4more> @mouka: yes, w/ FreeBSD a few years back
[01:32] <badawi> rlt: i installed the ubuntu desktop edition. but using apt-get i installed kvm and xen, and that installed -server kernel for me, i'm not planning on using virtualization all the time but is it ok to stick to booting -server kernel anyway and dump -generic for my day to day use?
[01:32] <mker> mouka, just ask what you want to know and maybe someone can help you
[01:32] <Lagos> Now this is an unpopular opinion amongst people who want to show how smart they are security wise, but I really don't think that kind of treatment is necessary. Read The Great Zero Challenge: http://16systems.com/zero/
[01:32] <Shalak> hey guys
[01:32] <rww> Lagos: agreed. I just dd if=/dev/zero of=<drive>, myself
[01:33] <Lagos> In which no professional data recovery firm has taken up the challenge of showing that they can recover data from a drive which has been zeroed ONCE.
[01:33] <prahal_> I bet somewhat that xawtv got broken in latest packages of ubuntu .
[01:33] <Shalak> simple question how do i check which version of ubuntu I have?
[01:33] <Lagos> So my approach would be what rww says.
[01:33] <mouka> I have a fairly straight forward vsftpd.conf, and yet a user I have added to my system (local user) cannot log in
[01:33] <rww> badawi: Depends. Read the stuff on the link I gave you and decide for yourself.
[01:33] <rww> !version | Shalak
[01:33] <mouka> I have tried several things to make it work, but nothing seems to work
[01:33] <kopy07> I see the device in /dev but when I used mplayer to view the output I dont get an output, I do get an error but google was no use.  When I use VLC to play it i jsut get no putput but do get audio.  How can I fix this problem?
[01:33] <gnutron> Shalak: lsb_release -a in a terminal.
[01:33] <mouka> I am completely at a loss as to what's going on
[01:33] <king> hey
[01:33] <usser_> mouka, pastebin it?
[01:33] <Ninina> Gah I can't figure out what is wrong, every one of my config files says my Icon set should be Human, the icon set human exists, yet I can't change anything about my desktop apperance and it's stuck on basic gnome
[01:33] <Lagos> Do a "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<mydrive> bs=1M count=160K" a few times. I think I got the numbers right.
[01:33] <Shalak> ty
[01:33] <king> i m new at using irc
[01:33] <mouka> usser_: sure
[01:33] <king> any idea to get help ?
[01:33] <rww> badawi: the -server kernel isn't going to explode if you do desktop stuff, but it might not be best performance-wise.
[01:34] <Lagos> That will just write your drive over with zeros instead of random data but you won't be bottlenecked by reading from /dev/urandom.
[01:34] <Shalak> ok one more question
[01:34] <exodus_ms> king> do you need help with ubuntu or help using the irc channel
[01:34]  * industrialbs needs to take "bs" off of highlight if the talk is of dd
[01:34] <user__> georgy_28 it worked
[01:34] <Shalak> should i update my ubuntu into 8.10?
[01:34] <user__> georgy_28 Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!
[01:34] <georgy_28> user__,  : great, have fun know
[01:35] <georgy_28> user__,  : Viel spass
[01:35] <user__> georgy_28 Dank U!!
[01:35] <rww> Shalak: depends. Is there stuff in intrepid you ned? Are you having problems with hardy? Do you like shiny new things? It's a decision you have to make yourself :D
[01:35] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d4a25871c
[01:35] <elad_> I've got an NVidia 8800 GTS, but still, Ubuntu's GUI feels choppy. Help?
[01:35] <mouka> here's the vsftpd.conf I am using
[01:35] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: i chose NOT to upgrade the machines i admin
[01:35] <mker> Shalak, that's up to you. 8.04 is still supported and will be for a long time. If there's something in 8.10 that you need go ahead and update, if not, don't. There is no should or should not :)
[01:35] <dekushrub> how do i check if i have a built in microphone?
[01:35] <MaT-dg> how do I integrate pidgin in ubuntu like this? http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/127534_ubuntu_pidgin_integration.jpg
[01:35] <elad_> Also - how do I completely disable the PC speaker?
[01:35] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: the new kernel played havok w/ some of the web cams I had set up clients with, but other than that i like 8.10 very much
[01:36] <Lagos> dd will overwrite the drive with zeroes. I wish there were an equally simple way to overwrite it with all 1s. You could write a program to do it, but I'm lazy. =:)
[01:36] <Lagos> Or like a /dev/ones =:)
[01:36] <georgy_28> user__, : don't forget to recompile by a kernel upgrade !! Otherwise it will not work again And I'm a french Belgian ;)
[01:36] <badawi> rww: yeah i'm not sure what that 250 Hz timer interrupt means hardware wise to my system, or how it's gonna affect it, but i guess i'll try running -server for a couple of days and see how it works out
[01:36] <rellik> prahal_, if it's xawtv that's broken, shouldn't cheese still work?
[01:37] <elad`> How do I completely disable the PC speaker?
[01:37] <Lagos> elad: Disconnect the cable.
[01:37] <dekushrub> hey i have a webcam on my laptop which works but i can't tell if i have a mic or if it is working, anyone want to help?
[01:37] <user__> georgy_28 merci beaucoup. oui je will recompile it if that means the make and make install we did now
[01:37] <elad`> Lagos, I don't want to. Can't I tell Ubuntu to stop using it?
[01:37] <georgy_28> user__,  : yes
[01:37] <Shalak> can I upgrade and reverse it without damaging my linux? maybe try out 8.10 if i dont like it switch it back, cause my linux does have issues like sometimes it crashes etc...plus i want too use wine and they usually support the latest version
[01:37] <uc50ic4more> @elad: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320921
[01:37] <Shalak> sry i talk a lot and by the way ty for your help
[01:38] <user__> georgy_28 bon, moi j'ire dormir maintenant. C'est deje tres tard.
[01:38] <user__> thanks again
[01:38] <user__> good night
[01:38] <prahal_> rellik, yes though it could be that hal does not report your device so cheese cannot find /dev/video0 .
[01:38] <kristian_> Intrepid Ibex rejects any changes I make to the xorg.conf file by going into low-graphics mode and asking me to reconfigure. Can I specify the driver to be used (mga) in any other way
[01:38] <georgy_28> user__,  me too, good night
[01:38] <user__> :-)
[01:38] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: i'd worry very much about all of the configurations of the programs being compatible going backwards
[01:38] <prahal_> so I am looking after a non hal based application so we could tell what s wrong
[01:39] <rellik> prahal_, ah, makes sense..  cheese doesn't seem to care that I have a /dev/video0..  is just says no devices
[01:39] <dekushrub> hey i have a webcam on my laptop which works but i can't tell if i have a mic or if it is working, anyone want to help?
[01:39] <Tetracomm> Any Skype and Ubuntu users in here?
[01:39] <dekushrub> tetraconn, yeah
[01:39] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: meaning, if a program's configuration file(s) take on a new format or contain options or configs that were not in the previous versions, going back to 8.04 may render those configs busted
[01:39] <rellik> dekushrub, Sound&Video > Sound Recorder
[01:40] <Shalak> so should i uninstall some software (games, etc) before installing 8.10
[01:40] <usser_> mouka, hang on 1 sec i'll pull out my conf
[01:40] <Ferrous> anyone a tech support for cirago? :P
[01:40] <Shalak> and is it easy too instal
[01:40] <Shalak> do i need special ju ju skills for it?
[01:41] <Maizcul> I need special antinoob sauce
[01:41] <andi__> Co-Angga-Manis
[01:41] <bastid_raZor> Shalak; you can not go back once upgraded.
[01:41] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: no, i am talking about *all* the programs.. truthfully, why not just use the live cd and see what you think?
[01:41] <gnutron> Shalak: disable effects would be wise prior to upgrade.
[01:42] <usser_> mouka, it doesnt work for any users? or just local?
[01:42] <Maizcul> Anyone want to help with my keyboard? x(
[01:42] <bmk789> where should my libflashplayer.so go? ive tried 4 places and firefox wont use any of them
[01:42] <Lagos> If you have a LiveCD, I'd boot into that first to make sure all your hardware works as expected (doubt you'll have a problem, Shalak, but it never hurts). Then I'd simply follow the advice and links on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading I don't anticipate you'll encounter much difficulty.
[01:43] <Shalak> ok so does my version of linux have a iso burner
[01:43] <Shalak> cause i am going too go for it
[01:43] <usser_> mouka, try to specify anon_root, it may be needed. or chroot_local_user=YES
[01:43] <Shalak> also how can i keep all my files (downloaded, photos etc)
[01:44] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: if you use the live cd, it does not touch anything on your hard drive
[01:44] <|GaiJin|> anyone using xbmc here??
[01:44] <anders> yes |GaiJin|
[01:44] <MaT-dg> bmk789: I have it in  /.mozilla/plugins
[01:44] <usser_> mouka, thats my file http://pastebin.com/m66f557a9
[01:44] <sachael> anyone have a good mass renaming program?
[01:44] <bastid_raZor> Shalak; brasero or k3b
[01:44] <bmk789> MaT-dg, thanks ill try that
[01:45] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: the live cd is mostly for demonstration and noodling around.. if and when you choose to *install* the upgrade, just make sure that you do NOT wipe the /home partition!
[01:45] <Maizcul> anyone know how to get laptop fn key working :/
[01:45] <tengulre> I have a text file like 'ddddFBBBBCDDDD' ,I want to get string BBBB , how to do?
[01:45] <Lagos> They've suggested two things, Shalak: 1) Booting from the LiveCD in order to test 8.10. 2) Upgrading through the regular apt-get mechanism (see this excellent guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades )
[01:45] <|GaiJin|> anders: i found a pack containing a bunch or live internet feeds, is there a place i can add them, without having to print them and adding them manually??
[01:45] <kristian_> Can anyone tell me how to enforce the use of the mga graphics driver in Intrepid?
[01:45] <sachael> tengulre, sed -i s/BBB//g filename i think
[01:45] <Shalak> since i have a second hardrive can i keep all files in there?
[01:45] <antoranz> Guys!
[01:45] <anders> |GaiJin|, i have no idea
[01:45] <Shalak> they shouldnt be deleted right?
[01:45] <antoranz> I'm trying to compile openldap from the sources at their site
[01:46] <antoranz> and I get this error:
[01:46] <Shalak> and yes iam going too try the live cd first
[01:46] <sachael> tengulre, or you meant to get the string from the file?
[01:46] <Shalak> i just want too prepare just in case
[01:46] <andi__> hi
[01:46] <eweb100> Can anyone point me to a guide that to CORRECTLY instal Itunes under wine..  The latest ubuntu 64 bit
[01:46] <badawi> tengulre: man tr
[01:46] <antoranz> getpeereid.c:66: error: storage size of ‘peercred’ isn’t known
[01:46] <antoranz> how can I solve it?
[01:46] <dn__> ah sorry Lagos, wireless dropped out on my laptop :/
[01:46] <Lagos> If you upgrade through apt-get, it will merely install more recent versions of your programs. It will not erase any files. If you install from the LiveCD, there will be an option not to format the drive.
[01:46] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: yes, you should probably back up any and all files that are important to you before any major operation
[01:46] <antoranz> I compiled it two days ago on hardy and had no problem
[01:47] <Lagos> But like uc says: It never hurts to back up your home directory just in case.
[01:47] <antoranz> but I'm on a intrepid box now
[01:47] <Lagos> No worries, dn. Did you see the link to the Great Zero Challenge?
[01:47] <eweb100> Can anyone point me to a guide that to CORRECTLY instal Itunes under wine..  The latest ubuntu 64 bit
[01:47] <Shalak> ty guys
[01:47] <Shalak> BIG help
[01:47] <Shalak> iam going too get the iso and try burning it
[01:48] <dn__> yea
[01:48] <dn__> interesting
[01:48] <uc50ic4more> @Shalak: good luck!
[01:48] <outboard> i am having a problem , my install seems to have stalled on configering the usb , is there a way to get the installer to skip this and finish the install and then fix the problem once it is up and running ?
[01:48] <dn__> any idea what dban uses?
[01:49] <Maizcul> :( noone has ideas on laptop FN key?
[01:49] <Shalak> now lets talk about serious matters, what is the greatest pie?
[01:50] <Maizcul> Meat & Potatoe
[01:50] <Gnea> eweb100: you can't.
[01:50] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: sorry, what's the problem w/ your FN key?
[01:50] <Ferrous> the one without an 'e' :D
[01:50] <outboard> i am having a problem , my install seems to have stalled on configering the usb , is there a way to get the installer to skip this and finish the install and then fix the problem once it is up and running ?
[01:50] <Maizcul> It doesn't work >.<
[01:50] <Shalak> mmmmm meat
[01:50] <Ferrous> pi? ._.
[01:50] <uc50ic4more> @maizcul: that's definitely a problem! what is the model of laptop we're talking about?
[01:50] <Maizcul> It's got icons for example fn+F2 should mute/unmute but it does nothing
[01:51] <Shalak> 2.3 mb download speed 0.0 god loves me
[01:51] <Maizcul> Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP
[01:51] <Maizcul> 2004 model
[01:51] <Shalak> per second
[01:51] <DarkKnight> hey wen i run this coomand sh 2.8.10.run    i get a message saying  that it can't open the file
[01:51] <Guest52313> hello, i'd like to know how can i start automatic sshd when i turn on the computer
[01:51] <DarkKnight> hey wen i run this coomand sh 2.8.10.run    i get a message saying  that it can't open the file    helpme to run it
[01:51] <ASrock> what program should i use for opening .rar files that are in seperate files like name.r00, name.r01, name.r02...and so on
[01:51] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: i am thinking we're just going to either need to perhaps reconfigure the xorg server -- do you know what i mean?
[01:52] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: ie, have you ever run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before? and what ubuntu are you using? 8.04? 8.10?
[01:52] <Maizcul> 8.10 afaik, installed about 2 hours ago
[01:52] <Maizcul> fairly noob to linux :P
[01:52] <DarkKnight> hey wen i run this coomand sh 2.8.10.run    i get a message saying  that it can't open the file    help me to run it
[01:53] <prahal_> rellik, instal vlc and start it then Ctrl + C
[01:53] <uc50ic4more> @Guest52313: you mean you want to start a ssh server on login? i am pretty sure that you can just install the ssh server and it'll start as a daemon
[01:53] <agustin> i hate intrepid
[01:53] <agustin> i cant install it
[01:53] <tengulre>  I want got the string in startpattern and endpattern in txt file?
[01:53] <Zhane> how come my intrepid cant autologin ?
[01:53] <Maizcul> It can't be too hard, Can it?
[01:53] <outboard> i am having a problem , my install seems to have stalled on configering the usb , is there a way to get the installer to skip this and finish the install and then fix the problem once it is up and running ?
[01:53] <agustin> gooodd whyy meee
[01:53] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239972
[01:54] <agustin> i want to make a fresh install of intrepid from the cd but i cant god dm...
[01:54] <crapsterx> try unplugging the usb device
[01:54] <uc50ic4more> @Maizcul: sorry, laptops can be tricky sometimes, and you may have to get your hands a little dirty getting this to work
[01:54] <outboard> there are none plugged in
[01:55] <agustin> outboard you are tyings intrepid?
[01:55] <Tetracomm> Is there a channel for Ubuntu or Linux for embedded systems?
[01:55] <outboard> yes
[01:55] <Gnea> agustin: intrepid is easy. what's wrong?
[01:55] <outboard> @ Gnea : if this is easy i give up
[01:55] <Zhane> how do i prevent intrepid's wireless from auto-enabling at startup?
[01:56] <agustin> Gnea .. that i cant install it
[01:56] <Maveas> Hmm, how do I set up a MX record?
[01:56] <Gnea> outboard: hrm, that's odd... how many usb devices do you have plugged in?
[01:56] <agustin> i can instal hardy whitout any problem but when i want to install intrepid it stucj and send me busy box
[01:56] <kristian_> I hate what they've done to xorg.conf in Intrepid...
[01:56] <outboard> none
[01:56] <Maveas> I'm usung a free domain at dyndns - and I really don't understand the MX record function
[01:56] <topgun17> Is it posible to installlilo using synaptic package manager and have it work?
[01:56] <outboard> which is why when it probs them they do not respond
[01:57] <topgun17> Is it posible to installlilo using synaptic package manager and have  a bootable system?
[01:57] <Gnea> agustin: well, without anymore detail than that, it's going to be very difficult to help you
[01:57] <Tetracomm> outboard: Which one?
[01:57] <Maizcul> attempting to follow that thread atm, will let you know how it turns out
[01:57] <uc50ic4more> @agustin: if you cannot install intrepid, and hardy is working, i'd stick with hardy! :)
[01:57] <Akeru_Forsamee> How do I remove fglrx drivers? They aren't helping with anything and I'd like to revert to whatever was used by default. I'm using 8.04
[01:57] <Gnea> outboard: hrm, you could try re-routing the way the IRQ's are handled.. that usually fixes it for me... when you boot the cd up, press F6 and add this to the kernel line: pci=routeirq
[01:58] <agustin> im trying to install intrepid upgrading hardy
[01:58] <agustin> i dont know if this is right or got any problem
[01:58] <rellik> prahal_, in vlc I tried /dev/video0 and I get the error "[00000469] v4l2 demux error: cannot get video capabilities (Unknown error 515)"
[01:58] <prahal_> rellik, give a shot with v4l instead of v4l2
[01:58] <outboard> i am 3/4 the way through an install , so quit out of it and give up ?
[01:59] <prahal_> I don't know if qc-usb quickam driver is yet ported to v4l2
[01:59] <sachael> anyone have a good mass renaming program?
[01:59] <Gnea> outboard: what's really strange is that, when i upgraded from hardy to intrepid on a system last week, the system worked better *without* the pci=routeirq... it was a bit odd, so i figure the kernel people had something to do with that one... things are changin'
[01:59] <gravemind> can someone help me with a folder permissions puzzle? I want to make a drop box folder in ~/public, similar to the one that comes default in Mac OS X. How can I set the permissions so that other users can write files but not access them?
[01:59] <Tetracomm> outboard?
[01:59] <LoveGuru> Hello, somehow i can't ssh to my server.  im using VMware and Ubuntu as Guest OS, I just Reset my Router and after that eth0 just disappeard and eth1 appear there, i can't figure out what i did wrong :< before everything works fine. but now nothing works. Please can Someone Point me to the Correct direction im using NAT. and I checked my port forwarinding and its look fine.. but when i try to ssh to my server it gave me error refused :<
[01:59] <Gnea> outboard: well, i'd let it finish - if it doesn't error out this time, it'd be a waste
[01:59] <prahal_> sachael, "rename"
[01:59] <dberry> anyone using banshee with a rio karma?
[02:00] <sachael> prahal_, what about a gui one? :)
[02:00] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: right click on the folder, select Permissions; you're after the "Others"
[02:00] <prahal_> ah eclipse :))
[02:00] <outboard> i am just trying to install a dual boot so that i can migrate from microsux , but i have everything on mxp so am not about to trow it all away
[02:00] <jason_> poke crimsun
[02:00] <outboard> at this rate it would just be esier to pay the 5 grand to upgrade all my xp crap
[02:01] <rellik> prahal_, [00000481] v4l demux error: cannot grab :(
[02:01] <techqbert> My CIFS share, when I ls, not travel to by nautilus, ls outputs likek 8 files for each only one file
[02:01] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: thanks -- however there seems to be "create and delete files" as an option. I don't want them to be able to delete files, only create
[02:01] <DBO> erm, sorry, i meant to ping you from this nick crimsun
[02:02] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: a ha - well, you could chmod the directory.. are you familiar w/ the chmod and chown commands?
[02:02] <prahal_> rellik, argh best option would be to ask on qc-usb mailing list for help and if bug there is , a fix
[02:02] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: chmod is permissions, chown is ownership, but I'm not sure how do to the user:group things
[02:03] <rellik> prahal_, :( damn...  thanks for trying so hard, though :)  I learned a few new commands out of it at least :)
[02:03] <storrgie> is there a place to get assistance with verlihub?
[02:03] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: take a quick perusal of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[02:03] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:03]  * Matthew|Laptop is back (gone 02:27:27)
[02:03]  * Pelo is bored
[02:03] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: thankjs
[02:04] <salmon> does anyone know where i can find font packages for gimp image editor??
[02:04] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:04] <Pelo> salmon, gimp uses the fonts available on your hdd,  I can find you a likt for about 6000 fonts if you want it
[02:05] <lordrath> hey whats up everyone
[02:05] <Lagos> Gravemind, if a user has Write permission on a directory they can add files to it. But if they don't have the eXecute bit set on it, they shouldn't be able to list files inside or access their inodes.
[02:05] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: so to have the directory readable and writeable by it's owner (you, presumably) and writeable but NOT readable by other, i am pretty sure you'd chmod /your/directory rwxrwx-wx
[02:05] <prahal_> rellik, see Contact Us on http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/  . They need specific inputs to be able to help  I hope they will reach upstream soon (with a new shiny v4l2 version of the driver) so you ll have it working out of the box on next kernel upgrade
[02:05] <salmon> pelo: that would be most excellent
[02:05] <Pelo> salmon, hold on I'll look fo rthe link
[02:05] <lordrath> is anyone having problems with alsa and wine?
[02:05] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: crap! make that last "x" ought to be a "-"
[02:06] <salmon> pelo: thank you so much
[02:06] <sachael> argh, the thunar bulk rename is so good, but I want to drag thunar just for it :(
[02:06] <gravemind> Lagos, uc50ic4more: thanks, I'm trying it
[02:06] <sachael> don't want*
[02:06] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: i am obviously paying too much attention to the football game, as i reversed the directory and flags in the command.. sorry!
[02:06] <Pelo> !theme
[02:07] <Akeru_Forsamee> We have 1337 people in this room!
[02:07] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:07] <potwak> hello everyone
[02:07] <gravemind> uc50ic4more: so chmod /my/directory rwxrwx-w- so they can write but not read or execute
[02:07] <Lagos> Akeru: Lock the doors! No one gets in or out!
[02:07] <rellik> prahal_, thanks I'll check it out
[02:07] <potwak> how to install ubuntu in my flash drive?
[02:07] <rellik> prahal_, any suggestions on a cheap webcam that will work out of the box?
[02:07] <Maveas> How does the MX record work? I've installed debian on a VM and using external network so the VM got an internal IP in the same range as my HOST - but how do the mail server installation know that this server is the one recording to the MX record? :S
[02:07] <Pelo> !install | potwak
[02:08] <topgun17> How does one boot an existing system using lilo
[02:08] <uc50ic4more> @gravemind: correct, but again i reversed the flags and the folder path... use chmod rwxrwx-w- /path/to/the/folder
[02:08] <Pelo> salmon, http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/6%2C760+Fonts?content=9883
[02:08] <Akeru_Forsamee> Potwak: google Pendrive Linux, they shoudl have some tuts for you
[02:08] <lordrath> Has anyone else out here tried Ubuntu 8.10 yet?
[02:08] <Pelo> lordrath, most of us are on ibex yes
[02:08] <lordrath> sweet
[02:08] <prahal_> sachael, apt-cache search rename -> krename, gwenrename, pyrenamer , purrr
[02:09] <Pelo> topgun17, might want to ask in #lilo
[02:09] <salmon> pelo: thank you again
[02:09] <Pelo> salmon, did you see how many fonts are in that package ? you'll be cursing me in a few days
[02:09] <potwak> holyshit, thanks for the help.
[02:09] <Akeru_Forsamee> potwak: np
[02:10] <storrgie> with ubuntu server, when you install a new program (verlihub) do you have to open a port or configure a firewall?
[02:10] <feross> hey guys, anyone know if it's possible to use a /dev/raw1394 as a webcam for Skype? I've googled it but the forums posts are from jan/feb 2008. If I start Kino I can see the webcam output fine but Skype says no devices found
[02:10] <sidXIII> anyone good with gimp?
[02:10] <outboard> thanks for all the help people
[02:10] <potwak> anyway, is there a list of utilities that i can install from cd? for example, build-essential.
[02:10] <uc50ic4more> @storrgie; have you done anything w/ iptables yet? do you have an external firewall? does the program *require* that any ports be open specifically?
[02:10] <JulioNeto> hello guys
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> topgun17 You need to find the #lilo room, ubuntu uses and supports grub
[02:11] <outboard> thanks for all the help people
[02:11] <Pelo> feross, have you tried just turning  /dev/video0 into a simlink fo rthat /dev/raw... thing ?
[02:11] <outboard> from a bash prompt can i force the installer to skip this step and continue ?
[02:11] <Ahadiel> sidXIII, #gimp
[02:11] <hou5ton> I think i'll dual boot Ubuntu on this vista laptop .... how many GB does Ubuntu need to have plenty of room to work, applications, etc.?
[02:11] <lordrath> I have not seen too many differences between Hardy and Ibex, aside from better USB support and the like, what are the other changes that I should be aware of?
[02:11] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Ubuntu will install lilo if you try to install it on a filesystem that grub doesn't support.
[02:11] <storrgie> uc50ic4more: nothing with iptables yet (those are the hosts files right?) the machine is local to me.... and i dont know if verlihub requires it.... but i know its listening on 4111
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> outboard perhaps if you defined "This Step"
[02:11] <feross> Pelo: no haven't tried that, brb
[02:11] <Pelo> hou5ton, you can do it with 5 gig easily,   but I recommend at least 10
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici yes it will work with it..
[02:12] <JulioNeto> I need install Flash Player 10 on Ubuntu, but when I install it nothing happen! Firefox doesn't recognize the plugin. Cna somebody give me some help?
[02:12] <sidXIII> Ahadiel i was in there but no one ever talks
[02:12] <Akeru_Forsamee> hou5ton: Depends on how many apps you want. A usual  Ubuntu install takes less than 1gb, and I assume the rest would just depend on how much room you want to work with
[02:12] <uc50ic4more> @storrgie: ok, i am pretty sure you're fine as long as you are not behind a router... if you are behind a router, simply forward port 4111 to the IP of your machine
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici he will still find better help for lilo in a room for lilo
[02:12] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Indeed
[02:12] <outboard> @lordrath i have a problem with it hanging while trying to prob usb devices that don't exist , while installing  , so god knows how bad the usb support was before
[02:12] <storrgie> uc50ic4more: i know how to take care of the router... i just dont even know if verlihub is running right now.. hmmm but i configured it for 4111
[02:13] <Pelo> JulioNeto, unpack the archive,  do a search for flash on your hdd and replace the files on your hdd with the ones from the archive
[02:13] <hou5ton> Pelo and Akeru:  Thanks ... So .. 20 GB should be plenty for the install and lots of apps.???
[02:13] <salmon> pelo: no i don't think i will, but only time will tell ha ha... i love it
[02:13] <bazhang> hou5ton, yep
[02:13] <Akeru_Forsamee> hou5ton: That's plenty, yes.
[02:13] <Pelo> hou5ton, you'll be using about 3 gig for the install , the rest youwill be using for your/home
[02:13] <outboard> and no one here seems to know any way to help me
[02:13] <topgun17> Anytotourials on installing lilo on a exsisting ubuntu instalation?
[02:13] <prahal_> rellik, no sorry . >300 new webcams were added in 2.6.28 but ubuntu will stay at 2.6.27 for a while . And by cheap I have a 1€ webcam that does . Maybe you have clauses that you can returns products if less than 7 days after buying in your country too.
[02:13] <sidXIII> is anyone here good with  GIMP   no one answers in #gimp ill make a new room for us to chat in so we dont spam this one
[02:13] <hou5ton> Also ... I plan to leave most of the data on the NTFS Vista partition ... is that a problem?
[02:14] <topgun17> #lilo is a dead channel
[02:14] <potwak> is there a list of utilities that i can install from cd? for example, build-essential.
[02:14] <prahal_> rellik, those that are supported  by the gspca or uvc project should be safe and long term support as they are included in 2.6.28
[02:14] <rellik> prahal_, I bought this webcam a few years ago, so I'd say it's non returnable :)
[02:14] <Pelo> topgun17, google then,  there aren't that many ppl in here who use lilo so we know less then you do at this point
[02:15] <rellik> prahal_, how can I tell if a webcam is uvc ?
[02:15] <Nick924em> potwak, i think in synaptic there's categories, for utilities, games, etc.
[02:15] <exodus_ms> hous5ton, that wont be a problem, if you dual boot you can even set up your ubuntu 'partition' to access your NTFS files
[02:15] <Pelo> prahal_, rellik last I heard  gspca was broken in ibex
[02:15] <Mordocai> topgun17: http://www.google.com/search?q=installing+lilo+with+ubuntu&as_rights=
[02:15] <hou5ton> exodus_ms: ok .. thanks ... I'm gonna do it.
[02:15] <prahal_> rellik, and it will probably work with some help from the developpers (it is recognized .. and well v4l2 driver are easier to maintain so as soon as they have upgraded to v4l2 things should improve
[02:16] <Akeru_Forsamee> hou5ton: Good luck :)
[02:16] <lordrath> Hey Pelo, are you familiar with wine and alsa?
[02:16] <potwak> Nick924em: is there a list of that?
[02:16] <Pelo> lordrath, with wine a bit , with alsa not realy
[02:16] <Akeru_Forsamee> ﻿How do I remove fglrx drivers? They aren't helping with anything and I'd like to revert to whatever was used by default. I'm using 8.04
[02:16] <lordrath> ok thanks
[02:16] <Nick924em> potwak, i think its under system >administration > Synaptic package manager
[02:17] <Nick924em> im on Xubuntu so i donno the exact menu for it sorry
[02:17] <Pelo> Akeru_Forsamee, how did you instll them ?
[02:17] <exodus_ms> hou5ton, just remember, you are using a new OS, things are different with ubuntu and you might need to 're-learn' some things you have come used to in windoze
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Akeru_Forsamee did you install then with apt-get or possibly synaptic or manually
[02:17] <mankash> please help me with compiling
[02:17] <potwak> Nick924em: ok. thanks for that info. :)
[02:17] <Nick924em> anytime
[02:17] <Pelo> mankash, what's the issue ?
[02:17] <feross> Pelo: na -- ran  sudo ln -s /dev/raw1394 /dev/video0  and then tried it but nothing came up
[02:17] <prahal_> rellik, well this leaves us wit uvc only if gspca is not working in ibex (could well be as the devs worked a lot to integrate it into 2.6.28 where it works well. They may have left 2.6.27 beind)
[02:18] <sidXIII> is anyone here good with  GIMP image slicing for URLs... #gimp is silent
[02:18] <mankash> I ma trying to compile modules
[02:18] <Maizcul> it would seem im failing at following the guide.
[02:18] <Pelo> feross, it was just a thought,  does it work with other apps ? like cheese ?
[02:18] <rellik> prahal_, so any newer webcam will be uvc?  is that right?
[02:18] <Akeru_Forsamee> Jack_Sparrow: I think using apt-get, but I'll need to check the guide I used oto be sure
[02:18] <mankash> actually I am building the kernel with modules
[02:18] <feross> Pelo: yeah, worth a shot :)
[02:18] <Pici> sidXIII: gimp's official channels are on irc.gimp.net , you may want to try there.
[02:18] <mankash> it is giving some erro rin modpost unkown symbol
[02:18] <rchase> where can I get darkroom theme for older versions of ubuntu?
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Akeru_Forsamee if you used apt-get and did not add repos to your sources you can just synaptic or apt-get them out
[02:19] <prahal_> rellik, http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[02:19] <Pelo> mankash, better ask in ##linux then
[02:19] <prahal_> no
[02:19] <mankash> ok thx
[02:19] <prahal_> or so I am not aware of this fact
[02:19] <lordrath> rchase: check www.gnome-look.org  if it doesn't have it then I dont know what to tell you
[02:19] <rchase> lordrath: thx, just came from there
[02:20] <JulioNeto> Pelo, It doesn't work
[02:20] <Akeru_Forsamee> Jack_Sparrow: k, I'll try that. Thanks
[02:20] <lordrath> rchase: what version are you running on?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:20] <ninjabob7> can anybody help me with my wireless? i just reinstalled and now orinoco_pci is nonexistent and hostap_pci doesn't work
[02:20] <Pelo> JulioNeto, what doesn'T work ?
[02:20]  * Pelo lost track
[02:20] <rchase> hardy
[02:21] <JulioNeto> Pelo, the plugin
[02:21] <JulioNeto> Firefox doesn't recognize it :/
[02:21] <Shalak> hey sry me again, how would i check if i have a 64 bit pc? cause my pc cover has the AMD 64 on it athlon, but i have never installed 64 bit linux?
[02:21] <Pelo> hold on
[02:21] <ravalox> If you're using KDE, what's the best widget engine out there?
[02:21] <ravalox> Plasma looks great but there aren't that many widgets for it.
[02:21] <ninjabob7> Shalak: if you don't have 64-bit linux, your machine is running as 32-bits
[02:22] <Pelo> JulioNeto, well I'm running flashplayer 10 on mine and it works fine , let me check a couple of things
[02:22] <Maizcul> oh deary me
[02:22] <Maizcul> i'm not having much luck with this
[02:22] <ninjabob7> Shalak: and it's probably not worth the trouble to install 64-bit OS... nothing but problems
[02:22] <mroc> does kopete support video for google talk (jabber) accounts?
[02:22] <Shalak> cool
[02:22] <Shalak> ty
[02:22] <AnythingJe> Hey guys, I'm looking for an drawing program that will let me draw like macromedia flash editor in windows... you know, like snapping to shapes and clicking color regions to create vector like art.
[02:22] <Shalak> gonna go try out 8.10
[02:23] <Pelo> JulioNeto, start by un-installing  flash-nonfree-plugin from synaptic,  after that install flash 10 from the file downloaded from sun
[02:23] <prahal_> AnythingJe, inkscape
[02:23] <ninjabob7> can anybody help with prism 2.5 wireless? for some reason there is no orinoco_pci driver installed
[02:23] <Maizcul> still here uc50ic4more?
[02:23] <AnythingJe> prahal_: Thanks, I'll give that a try
[02:23] <ninjabob7> actually just what package has orinoco_pci?
[02:24] <Maizcul> guess not, hmm thats no good.
[02:24] <exodus_ms> Maizxul, what is the problem?
[02:25] <lordrath> Pelo: are you using i386 or 64 bit???
[02:25] <Akeru_Forsamee> Jack_Sparrow: It won't let me remove it using apt-get and I don't know which of the numerous packages related to fglrx to remove in Synaptic
[02:25] <mroc> does kopete support video for google talk (jabber) accounts?  or alternatively, is there a way to get video and google talk accounts working?
[02:25] <exodus_ms> Maizcul, what is the problem?
[02:25] <Pelo> lordrath, i386, there is no flash yet for 64 bit , that might be the problem
[02:25] <exodus_ms> --purge
[02:25] <wisd0m> hello, can someone help me send my GPG/OpenPGP Key to the server
[02:25] <lordrath> Pelo: I have 64 bit and I installed Flash 10 with no problems
[02:26] <wisd0m> my flash work 8.10 x64
[02:26] <Pelo> lordrath, then tell JulioNeto how to do it
[02:26] <Maizcul> I could use a little help following a guide if someone wants to help a noob :(
[02:26] <Pelo> Maizcul, a guide on what ?
[02:26] <ninjabob7> argh, why are my drivers missing on a fresh install?????
[02:26] <lordrath> stand by
[02:26] <Maizcul> http://users.skynet.be/thomasvst/linux-on-laptop/
[02:26] <sachael> i need a super simple app to track daily/weekly/monthly expenses - like "today i bought that and that for this much"?
[02:26] <Maizcul> fn keys
[02:26] <binMonkey> how do i know if i'm using sdl or gtk?  i'm wondering if i can't speed up my video card.
[02:27] <exodus_ms> gnucash
[02:27] <ninjabob7> and why can't I find any packages???
[02:27] <Pelo> Maizcul, I can'T help  I recommend you ask specifig questions on what you have problems with , you're more likely to get answers
[02:27] <exodus_ms> or download a 'calc' template
[02:27] <Pelo> !packages | ninjabob7
[02:28] <ninjabob7> yes, i've tried that but it says the drivers should already be there...
[02:28] <Maizcul> i'm trying to get my fn key on my laptop to work, I was pointed to that page. i'm trying to follow what it says but ran into a problem or two
[02:28] <exodus_ms> sachael> gnucash is good, or you could download a openoffice 'calc' template
[02:28] <Akeru_Forsamee> I need help removing fglrx drivers. It won't let me remove them using apt-get remove, and I don't know which of the numerous packages related to fglrx to remove in synaptic
[02:28] <feddozz> hello evrybody!! please excuse me but it's a question not related. HOW CAN I GET A LIST OF AVAILABLE CHANNELS?
[02:28] <ninjabob7> hostap_pci is there but doesn't work. orinoco_pci (which works in 8.10) isn't there
[02:28] <sachael> exodus_ms, thanks I'm checking out gnucash right now, but Im
[02:29] <Simeon_H> if I compile and install a new version of glibc will it screw everything up?
[02:29] <sachael> still afraid it will be too much (sorry for line break)
[02:29] <exodus_ms> -purge
[02:29] <Maizcul> $ sudo vi /etc/modules
[02:29] <prahal_> Akeru_Forsamee, try aptitude or synaptic
[02:29] <sloopy> feddozz, /list
[02:29] <Pelo> feddozz, /list but I'm notsure it's allowed on this network
[02:29] <Maizcul> im totally confused as to what i'm meant to do at that point
[02:29] <{alejandro}> hmmm
[02:29] <prahal_> feddozz, it depends on your irc client
[02:29] <exodus_ms> server->list of channels
[02:29]  * Pelo is gonna go before his bad typing causes injuries
[02:29] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:29] <{alejandro}> It seems when I restarted today my sound has vanished - I get the speaker with the x no matter how i play with my settings
[02:29] <ninjabob7> actually orinoco is there but orinoco_pci isn't... which is strange as both are there in older and newer versions
[02:29] <ninjabob7> of ubuntu, that is
[02:29] <{alejandro}> wait
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> wisd0m: gpg --send-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <keyid>
[02:30] <feddozz> to all /list worked thank you very much!! bye!!!
[02:30] <{alejandro}> lol nvm got it
[02:30] <LoveGuru> Hello, somehow i can't ssh to my server.  im using VMware and Ubuntu as Guest OS, I just Reset my Router and after that eth0 just disappeard and eth1 appear there, i can't figure out what i did wrong :< before everything works fine. but now nothing works. Please can Someone Point me to the Correct direction im using NAT. and I checked my port forwarinding and its look fine.. but when i try to ssh to my server it gave me error refused :<
[02:30] <elad`> What should I use for eMule?
[02:30] <bazhang> !p2p > elad`
[02:30] <bzerk1> gday
[02:31] <exodus_ms> sachael> try some of the templates, I use a few and they work great. you could also always create a custom spreadsheet to suit your needs:)
[02:31] <Maizcul> All i see is "# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load .... sbp2"
[02:31] <Maizcul> I don't get what to do next :S
[02:33] <Maizcul> :(
[02:33] <Simeon_H> cmon guys this could end badly
[02:33] <barcode> does anyone know where i can find a good video converter?
[02:33] <bazhang> ffmpeg barcode
[02:34] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> what is the error message?
[02:34] <exodus_ms> avidemux
[02:34] <coltrem66> non si dorme qui :-)
[02:34] <becker`> Hey, I've just added a new user and removed it. Now I do login from my old user but all the files and stuff seem like they have gone. it seems like I'm in a new user though it says my old username. What shall I do?
[02:34] <bazhang> !it
[02:35] <Maizcul> i'm stumped :(
[02:36] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: just Connection Refused .. When i try to ssh to my server
[02:36] <agustin> i HATE INTREPID!!
[02:36] <Simeon_H> WELL IT HATES YOU
[02:37] <prahal_> barcode, winff . You can grab it from debian packages.debian.org as soon as it is reachable again
[02:37] <prahal_> please don't scream in a channel It hurts and helps nobody
[02:37] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> you are trying to ssh from ubuntu 'guest' to you host?
[02:38] <becker`> Hey, I've just added a new user and removed it. Now I do login from my old user but all the files and stuff seem like they have gone. it seems like I'm in a new user though it says my old username. What shall I do?
[02:38] <barcode> the thing im doing is streaming my movies to my ps3 but the format is .flv or something like that and i need .mpg
[02:38] <D-MAN> what would the command be to completely removwe wine?
[02:38] <bazhang> agustin, try the alternate cd
[02:38] <exodus_ms> mencoder
[02:38] <mooglinux> barcode, try converting with avidemux
[02:38] <exodus_ms> !mencoder
[02:38] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i m trying to ssh from host OS which is windows 2000 to my Ubuntu Guest.
[02:38] <lordrath> D-Man did you compile it or did you use  apt-get to install it?
[02:39] <ninjabob7> why would a single network card show up twice (as wifi0 and wlan0)? in the past, before I reinstalled, it showed up as eth1 and wifi0 and worked. now it's wifi0 and wlan0 and doesn't work.
[02:39] <ninjabob7> same card, same ubuntu version, i think same driver...
[02:39] <prahal_> barcode, hum vlc is able to transcode and stream . But I cannot tell if it support flv . While mplayer/mencoder (used by winff) does
[02:39] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> have to ask, do you have your guest running and what virtualization software are you using
[02:39] <D-MAN> Lordrath just want to completely remove it from my system
[02:40] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: yes my guest is running i m using VMware Workstation
[02:40] <hikenboot> hello everyone ever since moving from debian to ubuntu my abit nf7-s2g has had very slow ethernet connection speed.. i am told its the via 6122 chipset  lsmod tells me that the via_velocity card module is loaded
[02:40] <mooglinux> D-MAN try sudo apt-get autoremove wine
[02:40] <D-MAN> Lordrath compile i believe
[02:40] <hikenboot> is their an alternative driver?
[02:40] <christophe> Anyone here know of a good java channel?
[02:41] <D-MAN> lord rath thnks got it
[02:41] <ravalox> If you're using KDE, what's the best widget engine out there?
[02:41] <ravalox> Plasma looks great but there aren't that many widgets for it.
[02:42] <lordrath> hmmm
[02:42] <lordrath> i would have to look into it  give me a minute im helping someone else at the moment
[02:42] <D-MAN> lordrath did that delete all user settings too?
[02:42] <mooglinux> i havent tried KDE 4.1 or later yet. how is it shaping up?
[02:42] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> are you using samba, or putty
[02:42] <jrib> when I try to connect to google talk through empathy, the gnome foot moves for a while and then I receive "Network Error" in the gui.  I've disabled my firewall in case that was the reason but it has had no effect.  Logs/output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80626/
[02:42] <ravalox> It looks wonderful
[02:43] <lordrath> it should have
[02:43] <ravalox> There just aren't that many widgets for plasma available yet.
[02:43] <ravalox> But it's plenty fast and it looks great.
[02:43] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> and, can you ping your guest from your host?
[02:43] <Mal3ko> what does this cmd actually do? /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd stop <-- stopping pure-ftpd service or autostart?
[02:43] <Mal3ko> init.d
[02:43] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i m using putty at windows.
[02:43] <ravalox> I feel compiz is prettier overall, but KDE pares down quite nicely.
[02:44] <mww113> I installed ubuntu with wubi and now I cannot chmod /host on ubuntu which contains the windows installation. It is currently chmoded to 777 HELP! This is dangerous.
[02:44] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: ya i can ping my guest from my host
[02:45] <mww113> I plan to allow people to ssh in but if they do they could screw up windows, which would screw up ubuntu!
[02:45] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> so you know you can connect, have you checked your firewall settings on windoze side?
[02:46] <elad`> Once I've installed bittornado and mldonkey, how do I launch them?
[02:46] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: ya i did.. firewall works fine. :<
[02:46] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, are you trying to ssh from a remote host to the guest system?
[02:47] <mooglinux> elad`, they should show up in your applications menu. if not you can go to system -> preferances ->main menu and add them
[02:47] <mww113> Can somone HELP?! this could compromise my system.
[02:47] <Lemonwedge> whats the command to find what resolution my graphics card can handle??
[02:47] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: i m trying to ssh from host to guest
[02:47] <jrib> mww113: ask a question
[02:47] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> idk, what about port fowarding?
[02:47] <Lemonwedge> ^^^^
[02:47] <k54buzz> hello
[02:48] <elad`> Add them how?  I have no idea where they are.
[02:48] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i did portforwads in VMware :<
[02:48] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, The nat is only for outbound connections from the guest.  use bridging so the guest has an ip on the same network as the host.
[02:48] <mww113> jrib: I installed ubuntu with wubi and for some reason I cannot chmod /host which contains the windows installation it is currently chmoded to 777 <<very bad
[02:48] <becker`> Hey, I added a user to test something and then removed it. I've logged in from ny old user now but all the files and my setup seems like they are gone. Can someone help me what to do please?
[02:49] <jrib> mww113: pastebin the output of 'mount'
[02:49] <RequinB4> Evolution fails to fetch my mail anymore, and I don't see what is wrong...
[02:49] <Lemonwedge> how do i find what screen resolution my graphics card can handle?
[02:49] <mww113> jrib: As root?
[02:49] <jrib> mww113: doesn't matter
[02:49] <simester> Help please - My Ununtu desktop is "Unable to mount [my USB hard drive]". I know it's because of how I removed it from my Windows laptop, but there was no "Unmount" option, so I just removed it.
[02:49] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: well i never used "bridge" can i? and it will work for me ?
[02:49] <Odd-rationale> simester: try force mounting it...
[02:49] <D-MAN> lordrath are you still on?
[02:49] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, yes it will.
[02:49] <mww113> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d66d34113
[02:50] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> one last question, why are you using ssh?
[02:50] <simester> Odd-Rationale: What is that command please?
[02:50] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, unless you want to setup iptables or some other firewall
[02:50] <hikenboot> thanks found an alternate driver
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> simester: unfortunately i forgot... isn't on the error message?
[02:50] <hikenboot> have a great night everyone
[02:51] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: well ssh is just for example.  i can't access to my sshserver, ftpserver, apache whatever i can't access from host to guest.
[02:51] <jrib> mww113: you have to ask the wubi people.  It seems like /host is some wubi-specific thing
[02:51] <nossralsuva> simester: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/deviceyourtryingtomount /mountpoint -o force      eg.. mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/Templates -o force
[02:51] <mww113> jrib: Where can I find them?
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> simester: somethings like "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ -o force"
[02:51] <nossralsuva> simester: that was an example of a force mount
[02:51] <LoveGuru> joeb3_; i really don't wan't to mess with iptables, because i dont have much idea/info about iptables.
[02:51] <jrib> mww113: google for wubi, they have forums
[02:51] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> so you want access to your ubuntu files not just from the local machine?
[02:52] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i want to access from any where not just from my local machine
[02:53] <simester> nossralsuva" It says "Only root can do that"
[02:53] <D-MAN> need to know how to completely remove wine from my system?
[02:53] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> ok... you will need to do some configuring on the 'guest' side
[02:53] <nossralsuva> simester: be sure to type sudo
[02:53] <nossralsuva> simester: be sure to type sudo before typing the command
[02:53] <RequinB4> Evolution fails to fetch my mail anymore, and I don't see what is wrong...
[02:54] <hidzalot> how do you properly install adobe flash player so it will work ?
[02:54] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: could you point me what exactly and where?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[02:54] <jrib> hidzalot: install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[02:55] <hidzalot> ok
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i know... i was just giving an example to someone...
[02:55] <D-MAN> need to know how to completely remove wine from my system?
[02:55] <Zoffix> Hello, have anyone managed to use any mail app on Ubuntu that would be able to receive mail from MS Exchange server?
[02:55] <Zoffix> I know that Evolution tries to, but apparently it doesn't support MS Exchange 2007
[02:55] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> do you have vmware tools installed?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale agreed.
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[02:56] <simester> nossralsuva: It gave me a bunch of directions and options using the "mount" command - and it even shows up under "Places", but it still isnt mounted.
[02:56] <cfedde> anyone with experience using zfs-fuse here?
[02:56] <lordrath> D-MAN: sorry its taking so long  i am in the middle of a flash crisis
[02:56] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: yea i do have
[02:56] <Zoffix> cfedde, :)
[02:56] <lordrath> D-MAN: Let me finish up and I will give you a hand
[02:56] <mooglinux> who was having flash trouble?
[02:56] <D-MAN> lordrath lol!
[02:56] <Zoffix> mooglinux, I do, sometimes.
[02:56] <D-MAN> lordrath thanks
[02:56] <mooglinux> 32 or 64bit?
[02:57] <Zoffix> 64
[02:57] <RequinB4> Evolution fails to fetch my mail anymore, and I don't see what is wrong...
[02:57] <Paddy_EIRE> RequinB4, which email service do you use?
[02:57] <croddy1> the GIMP used to render text from imported SVGs using sub-pixel antialiasing. i found this extremely useful. sometime in the past week it has stopped, and now renders the text using grayscale antialiasing. how can I rasterize SVGs using subpixel antialiasing?
[02:58] <Zoffix> I wonder if there is anything at all that supports Exchange 2007
[02:58] <LoveGuru> D-MAN i think u need " sudo apt-get --remove --purge wine*
[02:58] <RequinB4> PaddyEIRE: its gmail POP and aol IMAP
[02:58] <RequinB4> PaddyEIRE the rest are working fine
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE> croddy, ask in the gimp channel
[02:58] <croddy1> Paddy_EIRE: I believe it is an ubuntu issue, as the version of GIMP has not changed. I am willing to use any tool in the distribution.
[02:58] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: any other idea?
[02:59] <RequinB4> PaddyEIRE: hold on i think i fixed it
[02:59] <percent20> ok, not really finding a lot of good info on this, but i have tried to use compiz. Problem is when i turn it on in appearances i lose my borders. Any ideas? or places I can look?
[02:59] <newmansan> hello guys
[02:59] <RequinB4> !hi
[02:59] <newmansan> thanks
[02:59] <newmansan> is this the place to get some tech support?
[02:59] <RequinB4> newmansan: yep, throw out a question
[02:59] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> is something close to what you want to do --> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-share-folders-with-your-ubuntu-virtual-machine-guest/
[02:59] <Zoffix> percent20, "borders"? You mean window decorations?
[03:00] <D-MAN> loveguru what happened i changed my screen rez and now cant apply changes in wine couse its off the screen!
[03:00] <percent20> Zoffix, yea I installed compiz manager, and the window decorations is on.
[03:00] <Maveas> Anybody who knows how DynDNS works? I need to set up a MX record
[03:00] <newmansan> "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." how do i fix it?
[03:00] <Zoffix> percent20, try: emerald --replace; if that fails, there is #compiz-fusion
[03:00] <LoveGuru> D-Man: i m not familiar with "wine" but if u want help with wine u can ask in #wine  channel.
[03:01] <genii> It's #winehq actually
[03:01] <D-MAN> loveguru there is no one on that channel lol
[03:01] <LoveGuru> ooops.. sorry ya its #winehq
[03:01] <LoveGuru> my mistake
[03:01] <joeb3_> Maveas, when you setup the host, there is an option for the mail exchanger.  That's MX.
[03:01] <Paddy_EIRE> croddy, well if you intend on using gimp it would be a question for them... otherwise sorry I cannot help you
[03:01] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: well ya i do access in my file.. in the same way. im talking about ssh thingy. :<
[03:02] <Maveas> joeb3_: hmm, how do I do it?
[03:02] <croddy1> I am not married to GIMP. I only want to render SVGs containing text to raster images using subpixel antialiasing. If there is another tool that can do this, I will use that.
[03:02] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: what is the difference between NAT and bridge?
[03:02] <athena> grrrr.... can some one help i'm like clueless when it comes to computers so the simplest task become hard
[03:02] <lordrath> D-Man What problems are you having with wine?  aside from trying to get rid of it?
[03:02] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | croddy
[03:03] <RequinB4> athena: just ask, what exactly is the problem?
[03:03] <croddy1> criminy
[03:03] <croddy1> if you don't know, say nothing.
[03:03] <athena> flash player
[03:03] <joeb3_> Maveas, click the "configure email routing button".
[03:03] <croddy1> i am following all the guidelines in how to ask questions the smart way.
[03:03] <deadlylife> hallo
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > croddy1
[03:03] <croddy1> if you haven't read it, you might consider it.
[03:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | croddy
[03:03] <D-MAN> lordrath i messed up screen resolution and now cannot apply changes couse they are off the screen?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> croddy1 please stop
[03:04] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> what ssh cmd are you using 'hostname' 'ip'? are you using any modifiers
[03:04] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, nat allows outbound connections using your host as the source address.  Bridging puts the guest on you local network, just like the host.
[03:04] <deadlylife> I deleted /var/lib/dpkg
[03:04] <deadlylife> Now I can't use apt-
[03:04] <deadlylife> *aptitude
[03:04] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: i m using putty at my host to get connection from guest. usgin host/port
[03:04] <deadlylife> What should I do?
[03:04] <joeb3_> Maveas, are you connected to www.dyndns.org?
[03:05] <Maveas> Yeah
[03:05] <deadlylife> I deleted /var/lib/dpkg
[03:05] <deadlylife> Can someone help?
[03:05] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> yes, but you are using vmware with a NAT, and also want to ssh to a 'guest' linux system. do you have /etc/vmware/vmnet8/nat/nat.conf
[03:05] <newmansan> I can't get any sound. It says it can't find any GStreamer plugins and/or devices. Help?
[03:05] <D-MAN> lordrath i tried deleting it but wen i re install wine it had the same settings as before
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > deadlylife
[03:05] <Maveas> joeb3_: yes
[03:06] <deadlylife> Jack_Sparrow, do you have any ideas about what to do or where I can find a default /var/lib/dpkg?
[03:06] <joeb3_> Maveas, edit the host you want to add mx for.  Mail routing is at the bottom.
[03:06] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: well no i dont have that location . becoz i installed my VMware in Windows. and i do have /etc/Vmware-Tools
[03:06] <D-MAN> lordrath so if i could restore wine to its default settings i would be good
[03:06]  * Benalex is away: ZzZz
[03:07] <Maveas> joeb3_: ok, then?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> deadlylife Please try patience.. ask your question like you did and wait, dont keep repeating it every minute.  If you dont get an answer look at forming a better question
[03:07] <lordrath_> anyone know how to connect to the winehq server on irc?
[03:07] <mds58> sorry
[03:07] <mroc> hi all.  i know kopete is a kde thing, but the number of people over at the kubuntu room is.....small, at best.   i need help with a webcam in kopete.  i have libjasper-runtime, but every request just ends with "no image received."  background messages in terminal are "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3" and more.  can anyone please help?
[03:07] <joeb3_> Maveas, click "yes, enable mail routing".  You get a box to enter the mx record.
[03:07] <RequinB4> deadlylife: you can always reinstall as a last resort
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrath_ /j #winehq
[03:08] <deadlylife> Does anyone know where I can find a copy of /var/lib/dpkg, I deleted mine?
[03:08] <Maveas> joeb3_: I've got maveas.ath.cx as domain - what is my MX record then? :S
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> or was that not what you really wanted
[03:08] <lordrath_> do i type that in the server list  or what  i keep screwing it up  a little new to  irc
[03:08] <mds58> cna anyone help me with a print utility problem I am having
[03:08] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> idk man, have you tried to configure port forwarding on VMware NAT to allow forwarding of XX.X.X.XX:XXXX to 192.168.XXX.XXX:XX
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> lordrath_ type that right where you just typed that line to me
[03:08] <lordrath_> ok thanks man
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:08] <joeb3_> Maveas, will maveas.ath.cx be the mail server?
[03:08] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms : i did
[03:08] <Maveas> Yeah
[03:09] <joeb3_> Maveas, Then that's what you use.
[03:09] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone please tell me what to type in the command line in Terminal to run Serpentine?
[03:09] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> sorry friend, I don't know.
[03:09] <joeb3_> Maveas, mail must be sent to user@maveas.ath.cx
[03:09] <alarond> DavidCanarias: did you get that flash problem sorted out? :D
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !info serpentine
[03:09] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: Nevamind :) i tried all those things my self. but can't figure out. what/where i did something wrong
[03:10] <DavidCanarias> alarond: For the moment I think so, thks for asking!!
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias did you type serentine in a term?
[03:10] <joeb3_> Maveas, of course your mail server must be configured to accept mail fro maveas.ath.cx also.
[03:10] <mds58> trying to add a printer through HPLIP utility in KDE desktop and it wont acknowledge my printer as being on or connected
[03:10] <Maveas> joeb3_: I'm trying to install zimbra :)
[03:10] <DavidCanarias> I've tried a few options but dont type in the right command obviously.
[03:10] <Maveas> joeb3_: I'll just give it a try
[03:11] <RequinB4> DavidCanarias: 'serpentine' without ' should work, if it doesn't type in 'whereis serpentine' and then use the full path.  for me it is '/usr/bin/serpentine'
[03:11] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> ssh -p xxxxx maybe?
[03:11] <mroc> any help for my kopete webcam issue? "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3" and no image received. (sorry if it's a quick repeat...trying to be patient)
[03:11] <joeb3_> DavidCanarias, /usr/bin/serpentine
[03:11] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparow: Yes I did and up popped a lot of text and at the end :syntax error which I dont know what it means. Do you want me to paste the text?
[03:11] <D-MAN> just wanted to tell everyone who helps on this channel thnx  linux rules!
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias did you look in applications...sund & video.. serpentinetype serentine in
[03:13] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> also, this might help --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973435
[03:13] <DavidCanarias> RequinB4: joeb3: It tells me :  /usr/bin/serpentine /usr/share/serpentine /usr/share/man/man1/serpentine.1.gz
[03:13] <RequinB4> DavidCanarias: run '/usr/bin/serpentine'
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias did you dl it yourself or from our repo
[03:13] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Yes in Applications . sound and video appears Serpentine and I click but it doesnt start up
[03:13] <RequinB4> !pm | athena
[03:13] <adityag> ﻿is it possible to call a webpage using a shell script ?
[03:13] <simester> Trying to mount a USB drive, but getting an "Unable to mount...". I typed in the suggest Force mount line after "sudo...", but I just get an extended list of "Mount" options and variations. Help please!
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias If you type serpentine in a terminal do you get any error?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias did you dl it yourself or from our repo's
[03:14] <DavidCanarias> RequinB4: Did that and up came a lot of text at the end syntax error
[03:15] <RequinB4> DavidCanarias: pastebin the text, and how did you install the program
[03:15] <Takuya> Hey guys.. embarrassingly enough, my down key stopped working! :/
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias use the pastebin to post what all you get as output.. and answer my question about HOW you installed it
[03:15] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: yes the final line of text said syntax error and I installed from the Terminal as someone told me how to do yesterday, but it took forever to download.
[03:15] <jrib> can anyone tell me an account type (gtalk, yahoo, msn, etc.) that they know works with empathy from personal experience?
[03:16] <DavidCanarias> RequinB4. Will paste and I did the install thru Terminal which took forever! I will paste now
[03:16] <lucax> did anyone have problems installing intrepid from sata dvds?
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, gtalk works well
[03:16] <scunizi> jrib, is empathy sip?
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, they should all "just work"
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias which version of ubuntu and have you made any changes to your sources list
[03:16] <RequinB4> Jack_Sparrow: I think he compiled a copy
[03:16] <potwak> bye all. i'm leaving.
[03:16] <jrib> when I try to connect to google talk through empathy, the gnome foot moves for a while and then I receive "Network Error" in the gui.  I've disabled my firewall in case that was the reason but it has had no effect.  Logs/output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80626/
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> RequinB4 that is my thought too..
[03:17] <Maveas> I don't get this
[03:17] <Oloryn> or he may have done an apt-get from a Terminal
[03:17] <lucax> cant install intrepid from sata dvdr
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias in a term type this..  sudo apt-get install serpentine
[03:17] <Maveas> I'm getting an "DNS ERROR resolving MX for maveas.ath.cx"
[03:17] <mds58> heas anyone here ever used HPLIP utility for KDE desktop?
[03:17] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow:  RequinB4: Here is the paste link  http://paste.ubuntu.com/80643/
[03:17] <Maveas> Capital F
[03:17] <axisys> is there a pkg for citrix (ICA) client ?
[03:17] <Takuya> any ideas about my down key?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> mds58 perhaps better luck in KDE4 or Kubuntu
[03:18] <mds58> takuya:new keyboard
[03:18] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: am I right in assuming I can just use my google account without doing anything extra?
[03:18] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow I have just upgraded to 8.10 a couple of days ago. The only change I made was to install Serpentine
[03:18] <Takuya> nah, it worked fine a little while ago
[03:18] <joeb3_> Maveas, you can't use 192.168.0.10 in external dns.
[03:18] <Takuya> like
[03:18] <Takuya> maybe yesterday
[03:18] <Takuya> it's just ubuntu :p
[03:18] <FloodBot2> Takuya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <mds58> I will try updating my kde thx
[03:18] <exodus_ms> Takuya> do you have a number pad? can you use that one if the other is broke?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias in a term type this..  sudo apt-get install serpentine
[03:18] <Maveas> Hmm
[03:19] <Maveas> I don't understand
[03:19] <noamsml> Is it safe to use ext4 with intrepid?
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, yes... although iirc you may need to make sure that gtalk is enabled in gmail
[03:19] <Takuya> oh bah
[03:19] <Takuya> I see what happened
[03:19] <Maveas> joeb3_: I've redirected my firewall to the internal ip
[03:19] <Takuya> apparently in intrepid ibex, the keycode for COMMAND has been remapped to down arrow
[03:19] <Takuya> doh
[03:19] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Spararow did that in terminal and told     serpentine is already the newest version.
[03:19] <DavidCanarias> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[03:19] <thiebaude> DavidCanarias: delete it
[03:20] <Maveas> Can I force my VM to listen on port 25?
[03:20] <axisys> i see someone suggested for a citrix pkg in Mar  in brainstorm http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4658/
[03:20] <joeb3_> Maveas, when I do a dns lookup for your host it returns the 192 address.  You should use the internet address of your router.
[03:20] <craigbass1976> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4837990  I went here to figure out getting my broadcom wireless working.  No love.  This laptop had feisty on it a couple of days ago and the card worked.  I upgraded to gutsy and it still worked.  Now in hardy, it doesn't
[03:20] <thiebaude> and re-install
[03:20] <Maveas> Which I'm using?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias use synaptic to purge and reinstall.. please also pastebin your sources.list
[03:20] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow: RequinB4: Could it be something went wrong with the download last night as it took so long perhaps?
[03:20] <thiebaude> exactly
[03:20] <scunizi> craigbass1976, keep going and put intrepid on it.
[03:20] <RequinB4> craigbass1976: what make? (run lspci | grep Broadcom)
[03:20] <Maveas> joeb3_: I'm using my external IP :S
[03:20] <craigbass1976> scunizi, really.... is there long term support?
[03:21] <craigbass1976> 4306
[03:21] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Ive learnt a lot from this chat, but how do I pastebin the sources.list? and How do I purge and reinstall please?
[03:21] <RequinB4> DavidCanarias: Try reinstalling it
[03:21] <RequinB4> !paste
[03:21] <joeb3_> Maveas, "nslookup maveas.ath.cx" returns 192.168.0.10.
[03:21] <thiebaude> DavidCanarias: sudo apt-get remove serpentine
[03:22] <Maveas> lol
[03:22] <Maveas> how? :S
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias Open synaptic use it  to purge and reinstall.. please also pastebin your sources.list   and the results from lsb_release -a
[03:22] <RequinB4> craigbass1976: you may want to upgrade to ibex and see if it works there (I can't verify if it does) but i have the tut for hardy
[03:22] <RequinB4> if you wan tit
[03:22] <freetown> hello all, can I get an official answer on the LTS of Hardy here?
[03:22] <scunizi> craigbass1976, no.. but.. I had to use it for my new motherboard.. hardy didn't support the board but intrepid did.  knowing that Feisty worked for you and hardy doesn't .. well.. that typically means that if you did the upgrade path something got borked.. if you have a seperate /home you might consider a fresh install of hardy retaining your /home
[03:22] <Maveas> joeb3_: have no idea how it does that? :S
[03:22] <RequinB4> freetown: yes, ask away
[03:22] <DavidCanarias> RequinB4: Jack_Sparrow: Just suggested that too! Great minds think a lot. What do I type in terminal? As thiebaude: said do I first sudo apt-get remove serpentine?
[03:22] <craigbass1976> RequinB4, perhaps I need a reboot.  Where's the tut you speak of?
[03:22] <joeb3_> Maveas, that's how you put it in, or your router.  Change it on the dyndns page.
[03:23] <chmac> I bought a Lenovo ThinkPad a couple of years ago with an ATI graphics card. ATI linux support was dreadful at the time. Anyone care to comment if it's improved in the last 1-2 years?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias I have told you twice what to do and you want to do it your way so please feel fee to handle it
[03:23] <freetown> RequinB4, okay, I suppose I want to know where can I get details about LTS of Hardy...and save you typing :-)
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, no complaints here
[03:23] <chmac> I'm considering a new ThinkPad and comparing the integrated Intel graphics with ATI's card
[03:23] <thiebaude> DavidCanarias: you can use the terminal or synaptic
[03:23] <chmac> Paddy_EIRE: What machine / card are you running? Which driver?
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, although you may want to be more specific ;)
[03:23] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow: I typed in sources.list and command not found.
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> chmac try /j #ubuntu-offtopic  for discussion
[03:23] <craigbass1976> scunizi, something got very borked...  This stupid laptop shuts OFF after a while, completely.  It did it during the gusty upgrade, and I forgot to shut the "feature" off on the motherboard.  Scrambled to fix the Gutsy upgrade, and got it, but then the same thing happened on hardy
[03:24] <Maveas> joeb3_: how about now?
[03:24] <RequinB4> craigbass1976: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, integrated laptop ati radeon xpress 1100
[03:24] <freetown> RequinB4, one I do want to know is...does LTS of Hardy mean that Hardy won't get no stuff?
[03:24] <danktamagachi> i was wondering what the possible disadvantages were to upgrading to the .28 kernel? and would it throw off further kernel updates?
[03:24] <chmac> Jack_Sparrow: Is it off-topic? Hardware compatibility?
[03:24] <joeb3_> Maveas, 90.185.132.55
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias sources.list is not an executable.. it is a list of your sources.. and like I said please ask someone else or do it your way
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, what's your card?
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> chmac it is discussion.
[03:24] <thiebaude> DavidCanarias: do a search in synaptic for serpentine and see if it's there, then remove it if it is
[03:24] <craigbass1976> RequinB4, thanks.  That's the one I used to get 'er going in feisty, forgot the link though
[03:24] <chmac> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks, useful to know, I'm looking at an ATI Radeon HD3650
[03:25] <joeb3_> Maveas, not you have to put the mx record in.
[03:25] <freetown> RequinB4, s/no/new/
[03:25] <RequinB4> freetown: Hardy gets security updates but the other software in the repositories (ie the stuff you'll get your software from unless you know what you're doing) is all dated to 6 months ago
[03:25] <joeb3_> Maveas, not - now
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, check the forums for that card.. would be the best way.. there is also a hardware compatibility list somewhere.. hold on I will see if I can dig it up for you
[03:25] <Maveas> joeb3_: I've installed some script for linux to login to dyndns - do you have any idea what's the scripts name is? i've forgotten already xD
[03:25] <scunizi> craigbass1976, seperate your /home to a new partition and install fresh.. if there's nothing important on /home (as far as installed configurations) delete all your ~/. directories (hidden)
[03:25] <freetown> RequinB4, six months of the latest in the ubuntu repos?
[03:26] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Apologies if you feel Im not listening thats not the case. I did earlier go to Synaptic and remove ... and then reinstall is that what you mean? Still didnt work. I would like to pastebin my sources but dont know where to start to do it? Can you help please?
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias NO, I need to call it a night..
[03:26] <exodus_ms> !pastebin
[03:26] <Cake-s> lol
[03:26] <chmac> Paddy_EIRE: Swee, thanks. Searching the forums now. Last time the feedback was so harsh that I took the laptop back and swapped it for one with an Intel card :)
[03:26] <DavidCanarias> thiebaude: I did this earlier to no avail. Still same problems it doesnt open.
[03:26] <RequinB4> freetown: for the hardy repos all the programs are from 6 months ago plus any critical security updates since then.  Ibex is 1 month ago
[03:26] <thiebaude> wow, thats a weird problem,david
[03:26] <Cake-s> if there is one place in the INTERNET to lol
[03:27] <Cake-s> it is here
[03:27] <Cake-s> goodnight
[03:27] <prahal_> Maveas, ddclient ?
[03:27] <frnakc7> hi guys
[03:27] <frnakc7> http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=279775
[03:27] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow: Understand how you fell. Its hard dealing with a newbie who doesnt know 100% what do like most of you highly experienced guys around here. Thks for your help til now.
[03:27] <frnakc7> look a this girl
[03:27] <frnakc7> http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=279775
[03:27] <FloodBot2> frnakc7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:27] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, yeah I know what you mean... anyway look here to http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[03:27] <joeb3_> prahal_, that sounds like it.
[03:27] <freetown> RequinB4, okay...so...Hardy won't be getting say the latest kvm module, new kernels or libvirt then?
[03:27] <Maveas> prahal_: haha, yeah, that's the one
[03:27] <freetown> RequinB4, s/new/newer/
[03:27] <craigbass1976> scunizi, new install.  I moved this lady off XP, and just trying to get it up to hardy.  She had older firefox and thunderbird, so I installed older ubuntu to make transfer easy
[03:27] <craigbass1976> I'd rather not reinstall
[03:28] <exodus_ms> DavidCanaries, please try to remeber that anyone that helps you is doing so on a volunteer basis
[03:28] <RequinB4> freetown: IIRC hardy will get kernel updates, i can't give you a list of what exactly is updated, you'll have to look that up >
[03:28] <craigbass1976> That's one of the perks of linux... you can usually fix stuff rather than the windows shuffle (backup, wipe, reinstall)
[03:28] <scunizi> craigbass1976, did you create a seperate /home for her?
[03:28] <chmac> Paddy_EIRE: I'll bookmark that site, thanks. Nothing for the hd3650 though. :(
[03:28] <E4emacs4> exodus_ms, he's gone
[03:28] <freetown> RequinB4, well...where do I go?
[03:28] <anabolix> Im pushing 4 am and im tiered... anyways anyone know how to save a openoffice  (draw) file into a microsoft office powerpoint compatible file?
[03:28] <craigbass1976> scunizi, there's /home and then there's a me folder, and a her folder.
[03:28] <E4emacs4> he got pwned by the pirate lord lol
[03:28] <chmac> I'm thinking this will take more research than a quick "anybody know if it works?" question :)
[03:29] <Paddy_EIRE> chmac, you never know your luck :)
[03:29] <noamsml> Has anyone here tried using ext4 with Intrepid?
[03:29] <craigbass1976> I've got all her data on a thumb drive still from the windows backup, other than FF and TB
[03:29] <Jack_> Hey guys, can I boot up ubuntu with the install disk instead of with boot manager?
[03:29] <scunizi> craigbass1976, but is /home on a seperate partition on the harddrive?
[03:29] <exodus_ms> E4emacs4> cool :)
[03:29] <Paddy_EIRE> noamsml, stick with default unless you have more specialist needs...
[03:30] <prahal_> craigbass1976, I bet there were some tutorial if not script to migrate FF profile from windows to linux (mostly path issues)
[03:30] <jsjones96> DavidCanarias: try typing 'less /etc/apt/sources.list' to view your sources.list file
[03:30] <mchelen> Jack_, yup it should work as a livecd
[03:30] <Parvo> can i get CLI help here?
[03:30] <DavidCanarias> jsjones96: Thks I will try this.
[03:30] <Jack_> ok thanks a bunch mchelen
[03:30] <noamsml> Paddy_EIRE: In the case of ext3, an FS > 50GB and a wish not to take forever  to scan it is "specialist"
[03:30] <prahal_> Parvo, I guess so . Just ask :)
[03:30] <freetown> Parvo, nah, this channel is for NEWBIES! :P
[03:30] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: still no luck :<
[03:30] <Parvo> haha
[03:31] <craigbass1976> prahal_, well, I could dump these FF and TB profiles and have the newer versions.  I'd really rather just fix the wireless though
[03:31] <prahal_> ah ok
[03:31] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> did you take a look at that link I sent?
[03:31] <mchelen> Jack_, it will not boot the installed Ubuntu though, for that use the recovery console
[03:31] <Jack_> I'm getting ready to try out wubi too :)
[03:31] <freetown> prahal_, i was joking!
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> noamsml, not really
[03:31] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: yep i did :<
[03:31] <freetown> Parvo, just shoot
[03:31] <Parvo> im installing on a hp eVectra 128 ram 8.4 g hdd
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Jack_ remeber that is a test drive not a lease
[03:31] <siege> can sum1 help me about partitioning o0o...
[03:31] <Jack_> ok hehe
[03:31] <craigbass1976> RequinB4, lshw -C isn't working the way I think it's supposed to; I'm getting man page looking info when I run it
[03:31] <freetown> Parvo, :-O
[03:32] <mchelen> Jack_Sparrow, wubi works pretty well doesn't it?
[03:32] <Parvo> its been sitting on selecting and installing software for about 30 min
[03:32] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: but my windows ipconfig /all and my ubuntu ifconfig shows different things :< something is not gud.
[03:32] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> please try to be more respectful if the help you receive doesn't resolve your problem immediately. Others in the channel might not be so willing to help you next time
[03:32] <freetown> Parvo, good luck getting GNOME on that box...KDE4 might run....
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mchelen I wont use nor recommend it.. too dangerous to itself and your windows install for my taste
[03:32] <Parvo> going to try fluxbox from the cl
[03:32] <Parvo> dont know if i should stop the install
[03:32] <DavidCanarias> jsjones96: Here is the link ......  http://paste.ubuntu.com/80650/
[03:33] <freetown> Parvo, you've got an ancient box...it's either put up or give up
[03:33] <scunizi> Is there a software channel.. ?
[03:33] <mchelen> Jack_Sparrow, huh there have not been many problems lately i heard besides issues resizing partitions, maybe it depends on hardware though
[03:33] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Someone also helped me so here is the link if you'd still like to try and help please?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/80650/
[03:33] <Parvo> thats what i was worried about
[03:33] <powertool08> tonyyarusso: Are you available?
[03:33] <Jack_> I'm going to install ubuntu 64bit. Anything I should know? Btw I have an ATI card. :(
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, wubi is not something I would stand by at all... you either want to do something right or not at all :)
[03:33] <mchelen> Parvo, how much memory do you have?
[03:33] <scunizi> Jack_, good luck.!
[03:33] <Maveas> joeb3_: I'm still getting a DNS error :/
[03:33] <Parvo> 128mg
[03:33] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> I have no idea, I do aplogize but I have exhausted all resources I know of :(
[03:34] <Jack_> Maveas lol
[03:34] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Apologies but I always try to be respectful. What have I said that's wrong?
[03:34] <Maveas> Jack_: Mm, pretty LOL
[03:34] <joeb3_> Maveas, the mx record is not there.
[03:34] <LoveGuru> exodus_ms: so nice 0f ya .. thanks for all help.. i really appriciate :)
[03:34] <Maveas> I don't understand
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> mchelen the fundamental flaw is a crash that will let an ext3 filesystem loos on your ntfs drive..
[03:34] <Maveas> How do you check that?
[03:34] <exodus_ms> LoveGuru> np
[03:34] <mchelen> Paddy_EIRE, for some people because it is easy to use that can make a difference between getting it working or not
[03:34] <joeb3_> dig maveas.ath.cx mx
[03:35] <RequinB4> freetown: the best I can do is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-July/000112.html
[03:35] <mchelen> Jack_Sparrow, oh really that is good to know, can that occur often?
[03:35] <freetown> RequinB4, i guess it's get support from Canonical then? :-)
[03:35] <Maveas> Weird
[03:35] <RequinB4> freetown: yes, i could have told you that
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> mchelen how often can a nasty crash occur..  depends on the user.  read the wubi fac carefully and the problem is mentioned
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, because booting from a cd is too difficult :/  I dont think so... I would rather not leave my comp b0rked from wubi thanks... the livecd is too easy
[03:36] <RequinB4> freetown: it's officially supported for a few more months
[03:36] <scag> Hey, I have added a user to test something and then removed it. And now I logged in from my old username but I can't see my files and stuff. Can someone help me please?
[03:36] <jrib> when I try to connect to google talk through empathy, the gnome foot moves for a while and then I receive "Network Error" in the gui.  I've disabled my firewall in case that was the reason but it has had no effect.  Logs/output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80626/
[03:36] <RequinB4> freetown: I run it on all my boxes because I value stability and don't need ibex that much
[03:36] <Maveas> joeb3_: I check "Yes, let me configure Email routing" and I enter "maveas.ath.cx" and check "Yes, use it as my primary mail relay"
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > DavidCanarias
[03:36] <scunizi> I'm looking for a cross platform sip client.. any suggestions?
[03:37] <Parvo> i'm going to wait it out and see what it does.
[03:37] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, if they are silly enough to use wubi then come here for support I see it as a waste of time as we *Will Not* cover both OS's for support
[03:37] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: No comment to my earlier remarks?
[03:37] <Maveas> joeb3_: do I have to pay for that service? :S
[03:37] <mchelen> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks will check it out, some people have an old windows box they don't care about but that is good to know
[03:37] <joeb3_> Maveas, no.
[03:37] <scag> Hey, I have added a user to test something and then removed it. And now I logged in from my old username but I can't see my files and stuff. Can someone help me please?
[03:38] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: well wanna ask 1 thing. if i changed my connection type from NAT to bridge so i have to edit any file?
[03:38] <freetown> RequinB4, I'm rolling out Hardy because it is the nearest thing to a LTS distro that supports kvm, virtio on Windows, and proprietary Nvidia drivers
[03:38] <freetown> RequinB4, school desktops
[03:38] <Parvo> i like the Nvidia drivers
[03:38] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> not my battle or the place to discuss, just remember that everyone here that helps does so on a volunteer basis, telling someone you appreciate only part of their help is rude
[03:38] <joeb3_> LoveGuru, no changes. Just use an ip address on the same subnet as the host.
[03:39] <mchelen> Paddy_EIRE, booting livecd might be a better suggestion, is it easy enough for any user to set up a dual boot with windows from there?
[03:39] <joeb3_> exodus_ms, I was told the check was in the mail.
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, yes very
[03:39] <freetown> RequinB4, about that supported for a few more months...you don't mean it won't get updated CDs/repos after that do you?
[03:39] <RequinB4> freetown: the lesson is, you don't have to worry about things in an LTS release until its no longer supported.  The only thing you don't get is newer versions of non-essenial programs
[03:39] <RequinB4> freetown: yes
[03:40] <LoveGuru> joeb3_: tx.
[03:40] <freetown> RequinB4, ouch...so...the list of non-essential programs is rather important to a point then heh....
[03:40] <exodus_ms> joeb3_> yeah, and I have some ocean front property in arizona i would like to sell ya :)
[03:40] <RequinB4> freetown: I would get ibex ifyou plan on having a big wireless network, but that's about it
[03:40] <thiebaude> lol
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> freetown anything that is very popular gets backported.
[03:40] <joeb3_> Maveas, I just tried it with my account and it does not work. (mx)  Maybe they are charging for it now.
[03:40] <freetown> RequinB4, nah, my problem is supporting Windows guests in KVM until I can blow their need away
[03:40] <RequinB4> freetown: it's more important to figure out of if your boxes will work on hardy or not by what's on the boxes instead of looking at the changelog
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > scag
[03:41] <freetown> RequinB4, kvm, libvirt, ... :-D
[03:41] <mchelen> Paddy_EIRE, it is related to ubuntu, even if then another method is suggested, can you recommend a guide for setting up dual boot from the livecd?
[03:41] <Maveas> joeb3_: oh, thanks, good to know that I'm not the one F'ing
[03:41] <Maveas> :D
[03:41] <freetown> RequinB4, i don't buy stuff that won't work with Linux.
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, yes certainly just a moment
[03:41] <hidzalot> http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=303558
[03:42] <RequinB4> freetown: http://allaboutubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/02/27/ubuntu-and-kvm-virtualization-understanding-the-long-term-direction/
[03:42] <Maveas> joeb3_: I'm gonna try freedns.afraid.org
[03:42] <Maveas> joeb3_: which records do I need besides MX?
[03:42] <Jack_> 20minutes till ubuntu 64bit time!
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, this is the best I have seen yet http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp_stepbystep.htm
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Jack_ Let the issues begin..
[03:43] <scag> Hey, I have added a user to test something and then removed it. And now I logged in from my old username but I can't see my files and stuff.  I can still see them when I do "locate  <file>" but can't reach them
[03:43] <joeb3_> Maveas, just mx to send mail.  Is your address static?
[03:43] <Maveas> Yeah
[03:43] <\Kira> Jack_: till ubuntu 64 time? Whats that mean?
[03:43] <aprilhare> hey: i ant to disk image a harddisk which has a 32 bit install of ubuntu and overwrite it with 64 bit windoze vista. the first step is to backup the 32 bit installation (it still has files i want). how do I diskimage it?
[03:43] <RequinB4> freetown: do some research on libvirt, though, the hardy version seems kind of inferior
[03:43] <DavidCanarias> exodus-ms: I do know everyone does this on a voluntary basis and I hope to do the same one day. Everyones great here helping one another, but honestly I don't think my comment was rude. The person concerned helped me up to a certain point and I appreciated that as always!!! My intention was not to be rude under any circumstances OK?
[03:43] <freetown> RequinB4, yeah...that is my main bone at the moment
[03:43] <RequinB4> freetown: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/190904
[03:44] <freetown> RequinB4, it needs a newer version to work with virtio i believe...running kvm from the command line at the moment to get what i want
[03:44] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> cool
[03:44] <Jack_> \Kira it's the 64bit verison of ubuntu. A 64bit OS.
[03:45] <RequinB4> freetown: then i guess you have your answer
[03:45] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> have you pastebin your sources.list yet?
[03:45] <\Kira> Jack_: yeah, but what does the time for? Whats happening relating ubuntu64 in 20 min?
[03:45] <RequinB4> freetown: keep in mind if you REALLY want hardy you can compile your own versions, but that might be tedious quickly
[03:45] <freetown> RequinB4, well, i was hopin LTS would also mean getting newer versions of libvirt :-D
[03:45] <spartan2276> Does anyone know how to increase the vdi file in virtual box
[03:45] <Jack_> Oh i'm downloading it now :)
[03:45] <mchelen> Paddy_EIRE, looks pretty nice, thanks it is good to know because sometimes trying to explain all the steps to people is difficult
[03:46] <Jack_> I'm in windows vista right now
[03:46] <spartan2276> *oes anyone know how to increase the vdi file in virtual box?
[03:46] <DavidCanarias> exodus-ms: Thks.  Yes I did the paste. If you can help (and I would appreciate it very very much) it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80650/
[03:46] <joeb3_> Maveas, yes. that's good.
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias one question .. did you upgrade directly from gutsy to interpid?
[03:47] <Nappen> i need some bigtime help. i got ubuntu 8.04 update i want to use my mobile phone as a internet modem. i got a se w890i if it helps =) any one know how i can do it? i have search the internet all night
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, yes... although once they understand how to boot from a cd then partition.. they pretty much will be happy with that.. always continue to help those that you switch to linux as the start is the most difficult time
[03:47] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow: As it happened I upgraded to intrepid a few days ago so did this from intrepid if that helps at all?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias read my question carefully..
[03:48] <Jack_> Is anyone using Ruby in ubuntu?
[03:48] <thiebaude2> DavidCanarias: did you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias did you install hardy then intrepid afterthat
[03:48] <Maveas> Hmm, it still wont work :/
[03:49] <Maveas> I'm getting frustrated ............
[03:49] <kenroy> hello
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> thiebaude2 in sources list I see gutsy and intrepid mentioned and not hardy
[03:49] <Maveas> When Zimbra asks for domain name it the "maveas.domain.com"?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > Maveas
[03:49] <Pnux> !session
[03:49] <freetown> is there an init scritp that will save current iptable rules and load them up on startup?
[03:49] <necro_> is there msn client that allows me to do video and audio conference?
[03:49] <RequinB4> freetown: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt looks like you're going to want to run ibex
[03:49] <Pnux> !fonts
[03:49] <biouser> what GUI programs to write HTML?
[03:49] <joeb3_> Maveas, use maveas.mooo.com.
[03:49] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Apologies, I did the upgrade from Hardy to intrepid!!! Upps!
[03:50] <outboard> is anyone here who knows anything aout how to find what processes are running ?
[03:50] <Pnux> !libgd
[03:50] <thiebaude2> how do i change my nickname?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias bad moju
[03:50] <freetown> RequinB4, IBEX? next in line to Hardy or Intrepid?
[03:50] <mchelen> Paddy_EIRE, agreed, that is why wubi is so useful, with the livecd it looks like dual boot may be better to recommend
[03:50] <exodus_ms> type 'top' in a terminal
[03:50] <freetown> RequinB4, looking
[03:50] <outboard> /nick <new nick>
[03:50] <athena> GRRR!!!!
[03:50] <thiebaude2> thanks
[03:50] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow: Yes I had 8.04 then upgraded to 8.10 could that be the cause!!!
[03:50] <exodus_ms> or, sudo apt-get install htop
[03:50] <scunizi> anyone with experience with "linphone" sip client?
[03:50] <napster> I've removed panel of switching desktop from my panel, now don't know how to back it
[03:50] <Parvo> hmmm.... i guess i'm just impatient
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias 804 to 810 isnt a prob.. YOu had gutsy
[03:50] <freetown> scunizi, yes...
[03:51] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Yes I was working with 8.04 then upgraded to 8.10
[03:51] <RequinB4> freetown: interepid ibex is it's full name
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> mchelen, yeah.. wubi just gives users the wrong impression.. its not intended really for long term usage
[03:51] <freetown> RequinB4, oh...ibex looks scary...
[03:51] <DavidCanarias> Jack-Sparrow: I really thought I was working with Hardy........ is that not 8.04????
[03:51] <exodus_ms> right clickon panel click add to panel
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias  I see no signs that you had 8.04 only 7.10 and 8.10
[03:51] <RequinB4> freetown: try looking at the wikipedia page for ibex.  they are freaky animals
[03:51] <scunizi> freetown, what do you think of it.. I'm trying to find a way of connecting ekiga to my dad's machine (windows) and looking for a client for him that supports voice/video
[03:51] <freetown> RequinB4, ubuntu can do...image-update from hardy to ibex?
[03:52] <napster> I've tried but not found in the list
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias look at the source list you posted..
[03:52] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: Well in that case I don't understand that?
[03:52] <RequinB4> freetown: ? You can upgrade either by reinstalling, from a mounted ISO, or from the server
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias so yo never ran gutsy?
[03:52] <SiVA_> hey
[03:52] <RequinB4> !hi
[03:53] <SiVA_> "apt-get install" only installs one program at a time... how would I build up a list of different programs I want installed, then issue the download procedure just once? I want to download install a bunch of stuff while I'm sleeping
[03:53] <freetown> scunizi, I run an asterisk box...so on an ancient centos 4 i use linphone for sip...for video...ekiga + that old video conferencing program on Windows is probably the way to go...
[03:53] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: I originally downloaded Gutsy that's true, but then upgraded to Hardy for quite some time and decided to upgrade to Intrepid.
[03:53] <Jack_> Anybody have ubuntu working with an ati video card?
[03:53] <thiebaude> hmm
[03:53] <RequinB4> !anyone
[03:53] <freetown> scunizi, not sure if MSN messenger has taken over the programm...i've even forgetten the name
[03:53] <exodus_ms> sudo apt-get install <package_name> <package_name>
[03:53] <joeb3_> SiVA_, apt-get install prog1 prog2 prog3.  It will install all dependencies
[03:54] <Pnux> ﻿(00:53:42) ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about myself <= hes a bot, what could we expect?
[03:54] <outboard> ok now how do i kill a running process ?
[03:54] <tin> does any one here like to eat food?
[03:54] <SiVA_> oh so easy
[03:54] <SiVA_> thanks
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias ok, that is the answer to the question I asked ages ago....
[03:54] <biophile> !ubottu
[03:54] <exodus_ms> use F9 to kill process
[03:54] <Pnux> !ops
[03:54] <SiVA_> how can I query apt-get for part of a package name? I want to install mysql but don't know exactly what the package is called
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias I see no signs of hardy in your sources.list but they can be edited and changed.
[03:54] <thiebaude> outboard: you can in system manager
[03:54] <jrib> Pnux: what?
[03:54] <grot> ubottu: "does anyone know..." does sound like the start of the real q.
[03:55] <joeb3_> SiVA_, apt-cache search mysql
[03:55] <Pnux> no no, wasnt that jrib
[03:55] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: We eventually got there because of my ignorance, sorry it took so long!!!  Is it then that Serpentine isn't the right repository software to use for CD burning?Could that be the problem. Should I use something that's better suited.
[03:55] <Pnux> sorry
[03:55] <SiVA_> sweet
[03:55] <scunizi> freetown, linphone is still around and gpl'd.. looks like it works on linux and windows.. they even have a screen shot of using ekiga's stun server
[03:55] <jrib> Pnux: please don't use !ops unless it's an emergency
[03:55] <Pnux> i didnt know it meant something
[03:55] <freetown> scunizi, on windows? no idea about that :P
[03:55] <Pnux> sorry x,x
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Pnux Yo woke up a lot of people..
[03:55] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: OK I think in that case we are getting somewhere!!! Would editing and changing anything help the situation or do you think I should just forget Serpentine.
[03:55] <SiVA_> wierd.. I don't see mysql server listed in the results
[03:55] <freetown> scunizi, linphone worked for me...x-lite didn't
[03:56] <scunizi> freetown, yep.. http://www.linphone.org/index.php/eng
[03:56] <joeb3_> SiVA_, just type mysql
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> DavidCanarias I would rebuild your sources.list, update the aps and purge then reinstall serpentine
[03:56] <jrib> when I try to connect to google talk through empathy, the gnome foot moves for a while and then I receive "Network Error" in the gui.  I've disabled my firewall in case that was the reason but it has had no effect.  Logs/output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80626/
[03:56] <athena> ...
[03:56] <SiVA_> found it.. thanks
[03:56] <joeb3_> SiVA_, I see mysql-server and mysql-common
[03:56] <SiVA_> sorry
[03:56] <RequinB4> Pnux: its generally not a good idea to use ! commands you don't understand anyway, if you must experiment then msg the bot
[03:57] <freetown> scunizi, looks like i have fallen behind the times
[03:57] <freetown> is there an init scritp that will save current iptable rules and load them up on startup?
[03:57] <Lagos> There's a question. If I have multiple writers using a file descriptor opened with O_APPEND, will it be safe? My suspicion is it depends on the File System. I think it won't be safe over NFS.
[03:57] <scunizi> freetown, it's even in the ubuntu repos.. :)
[03:57] <jrib> !iptables > freetown
[03:57] <joeb3_> free_loader, iptables-save >filename
[03:58] <freetown> joeb3_, i don't care about taht command...i want to know if there is an init script that will also take care of loading automatically on boot the saved rules
[03:58] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> reference this link before you update, purge etc -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781352
[03:58] <DavidCanarias> Jack_Sparrow: I hear clearly what you are saying, but I am clueless as to how would I even begin to do that. I thought upgrading to Intrepid would help avoid some of the problems I have been having, but it seems to have created another one. I am thinking of going over to Linux Mint, maybe it would be easier for me (only because I am a newbie) to delete Intrepid and install Mint from a CD.  ????? What do you think and thanks again f
[03:58] <joeb3_> free_loader, you have to write the init script
[03:59] <aprilhare> how do I create an ISO image file of a harddisk partition using ubuntu? I want to disk image an old
[03:59] <freetown> joeb3_, fine, i'll go borrow the one from RHEL...
[03:59] <aprilhare> old ubuntu 32 bit installation ;)
[03:59] <jrib> freetown: the link ubottu gave you tells you how to do it...
[03:59] <DavidCanarias> exodus-ms: Thks for your help too! I will take a note and do some serious reading. I have lots to learn yet to get to your standards!
[03:59] <alexserver> how can i fix my dvd player so i could get dma mode ?
[04:00] <freetown> jrib, guarddog creates an init script?
[04:00] <alexserver> how can i fix my dvd player so i could get dma mode
[04:00] <jrib> freetown: no
[04:00] <freetown> jrib, oh the link...looking
[04:00] <athena> ....
[04:00] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> take a look at the link I sent, Set some time aside and read it thoroughly...
[04:01] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: incidently what does the term purge mean?  Certainly will read the link. Thks again.
[04:01] <alexserver> how can i fix my dvd player so i could get dma mode
[04:01] <freetown> jrib, interesting. thanks
[04:02] <Pelo> anyone know how I can change the theme for root ?
[04:02] <alexserver> can somebody help me ? i have troubles on enabling dma mode for my dvdrw
[04:02] <DavidCanarias> Does anyone know of a good link to find out if a certain printer has drivers available for Intrepid?
[04:02] <Pelo> !dma
[04:03] <freetown> is there a way to shut network manager down? it's getting in the way
[04:03] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias> that is why I sent the link, it will explain a lot of the questions you have. 'purge' will remove all packages listed, their dependencies and remove all configuration files
[04:03] <exodus_ms> !hardware
[04:03] <Pelo> freetown, http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[04:04] <athena> ...
[04:04] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Thanks a million, now I fully understand!! Cheers
[04:04] <napster> >>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80655/
[04:04] <freetown> sigh, i guess i have to walk through the init scripts...
[04:04] <exodus_ms> !fstab
[04:05] <Pelo> freetown, pay attention I gave you a link to the cups database
[04:05] <Lord`Saladin> I am having a rather major problem at the moment, in relation to GIMP... Whenever I click to open it, I get the "Opening GIMP etc etc" message at the bottom of the screen, then nothing happens after it goes away... Even the GIMP process isn't running. Any ideas on a possible cause and/or solution anyone? This is quite an issue as I use GIMP for web design for work.
[04:06] <napster> please checkout my problem and how i can solve it? >>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80655/
[04:06] <exodus_ms> try opening in terminal -v
[04:06] <jrib> Lord`Saladin: try from a terminal
[04:06] <Starnestommy> napster: do as the error says and run sudo dpkg --configure -a   in a terminal
[04:06] <Pelo> Lord`Saladin, , try this,  open a terminal and start gimp from there , just type gimp, see waht error msg comes up
[04:07] <athena> does any one play evo
[04:07] <napster> Thanks
[04:08] <exodus_ms> laterz everyone...
[04:08] <Lord`Saladin> I get a window pop up that says "Welcome to GIMP 2.2 installation"? Surely that is wrong... I just upgraded to Intrepid, so it SHOULD be Gimp 2.6, right?
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> athena, Evolution Mail??
[04:08] <athena> no
[04:08] <Pelo> Lord`Saladin, try  sudo apt-get intall --reinstall gimp
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> athena, oh.. this is not a teen chat room
[04:08] <athena> i know it's not
[04:09]  * tyta is here
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> !topic
[04:09] <outboard> Official Ubuntu Support Channel Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:09] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: correct, can you pastebin apt-cache policy gimp please
[04:11] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Yeah, no problem. What is the pastebin link again?
[04:11] <macjason0607> guys i'm on ubuntu but i put kde as my wm
[04:11] <macjason0607> does this channel support it ?
[04:11] <Lord`Saladin> !pastebin
[04:11] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: paste.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <Pelo> macjason0607, you would be better off in #kubuntu or #kde
[04:11] <ziroday> macjason0607: kde specific problems are in #kubuntu, to install the kde desktop you can do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80657/
[04:12] <Joshooa> Can anyone help me try and fix my nvidia drivers? I tried upgrading them and now I don't have direct rendering and can't play WoW, but desktop effects still work
[04:12] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: according to that your version of gimp is a 2.6. When you open a gimp window and go to Help > About what version does it say?
[04:13] <jon5000> Hi.  Anyone knowledgabele about getting a scanner to work? (Brother MFC685CW; wireless; printer working fine)
[04:13] <freetown> Pelo, and what does cups have to do with Network Manager?
[04:13] <Pelo> freetown, sorry wrong nick
[04:13] <ziroday> Joshooa: upgrading them how?
[04:13] <freetown> freetown, np
[04:13] <Pelo> jon5000, most scanners should work with xane , have you tried it
[04:14] <athena> i pity the fool
[04:14] <tv_boy> http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf
[04:14] <Pelo> freetown, I mean I had the wrong nick I thought you were the guy with the printer question
[04:14] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: It doesn't. When I click on the GIMP icon from Programs > Graphics, it doesn't load. I get the "Starting GIMP etc" message at the bottom of the screen as though it is about to work, then that goes and nothing happens.
[04:14] <freetown> Pelo, sure, no problem
[04:14] <jon5000> xane?
[04:14] <jon5000> no i have not
[04:14] <Joshooa> ziroday: I went to NVidia's site and followed the directions and shutdown gdm, did sh NVIDIA... and started up again, and now it wont work.
[04:15] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: ah sorry, was not aware of that. And running gimp from the terminal produces an errors?
[04:15] <Pelo> jon5000, sudo apt-get install xane
[04:15] <ziroday> Joshooa: why did you do that?
[04:15] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: No, no errors. However, the problem lies in that it comes up with a "GIMP 2.2 Installation" window.
[04:15] <ziroday> Pelo: jon5000 the program name is xsane and it is installed by default
[04:15] <Pelo> ziroday, thank you for the correction
[04:15] <Joshooa> ziroday: I forgot exactly why now, I did it a while ago, but I had a reason.
[04:15] <aprilhare> how do I create an ISO image file of a harddisk partition using ubuntu? I want to disk image an old ubuntu 32 bit installation :)
[04:16] <slimg00dy> He should be able to access his scanner if its installed in CUPS through Xsane.
[04:16] <Joshooa> ziroday: But I've tried using Restricted Driver Manager and I can switch from 177 and 172 but it doesn't matter, glxinfo | grep rendering brings back no.
[04:16] <Pelo> later folks
[04:17] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: right, well you should be at version 2.6 of gimp not 2.2. Try do sudo apt-get remove gimp and then reinstall it.
[04:17] <Lunis> ok so real quick, how can i calculate how big i can make a partition and keep it within the first 1024 cylinders?
[04:17] <Lunis> stupid old bios
[04:17] <jon5000> hmm.  terminal says i already have xsane.  where do i find it/how do i use it?
[04:17] <ziroday> Joshooa: right, well can you please remove the drivers you installed from the nvidia website and install the ones via Hardware Drivers
[04:17] <slimg00dy> Applications/Graphics.
[04:17] <arrayrand> is it possible for me to detect if someone accessed my pc via a live ubuntu cd?
[04:17] <ziroday> jon5000: or you can just type in xsane
[04:18] <jon5000> found it.  opened it.  "no devices available"
[04:18] <Joshooa> ziroday: I did that
[04:18] <slimg00dy> Arrayrand: If someone accessed your PC remotely or locally?
[04:18] <ziroday> Joshooa: so correct me If I wrong, you are now running the drivers from the ubuntu repo's and not custom installed ones?
[04:19] <arrayrand> locally
[04:19] <Joshooa> ziroday: Correct
[04:19] <Joshooa> ziroday: and wine tells me  API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 177.80,but this NVIDIA driver component has version 177.82.
[04:19] <arrayrand> i run windows xp. However, i want to detect if my pc was accessed via live ubuntu cd.
[04:19] <ziroday> Joshooa: and you are certain you have removed the nvidia drivers from the site
[04:20] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Removed and then installed gimp again... Typed in gimp in terminal, and the same thing occurs
[04:20] <athena> hehe
[04:20] <Joshooa> ziroday: Well, I did sh to install them, and then used restricted driver manager and selected to use the other ones again, so they are re-enabled. Other than deleted the original file from nvidia I don't know how to uninstall the other drivers
[04:20] <booksbuggy> is there any way of disabling the ink test page?
[04:21] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: okay. in your home dir is there any files named .gimpsomething?
[04:21] <booksbuggy> is there a way to disable the ink test page?
[04:22] <mneptok> !repeat > booksbuggy
[04:22] <ziroday> Joshooa: when you downloaded the ones from the nvidia website there was also an uninstall script. You need to remove them as the two different driver versions are conflicting. This is why we strongly recommend you don't install the drivers from nvidia.com
[04:22] <xman360> hey guys! anyone know how to get my automounted devices to show up on the desktop?
[04:22] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: I will take a look. Also, here is the terminal output for when I did the fresh install of GIMP
[04:22] <jon5000> how do you set up the scanner so that xsane finds it?
[04:22] <athena> this is boring
[04:22] <arrayrand> slimg00dy: why?
[04:22] <ziroday> athena: you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: In my home directory, I have a .gimp-2.4 folder.
[04:23] <Anacranom> I have been using ubuntu since 6.10, currently on 8.04 and holding there, every time i cold boot or restart my PC as soon as it gets past the post, it prints "ERROR2ERROR3" and will sit there the time-out set then check for network boot-etc, if i hit "enter" right away it will continue to the grub menu list and i can boot as normal, i looked at the /etc/fstab and has that there as well, not sure how to resolve this, any help
[04:23] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: hmm okay. and no other folders?
[04:23] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: No other folders with gimp in them, no.
[04:23] <ziroday> !scanner | jon5000 read this
[04:23] <trav> Trying to connect to a Windows PTPP VPN.  Download pppdaemon, tried using kvpnc without much luck.  Anyone have any experiences with this?
[04:23] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: why what?
[04:24] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: okay, do mv ~/.gimp-2.4 ~/.gimp-2.4.old and then try start gimp again
[04:24] <joeb3_> trav, pptp-client.  Are you running gnome?
[04:24] <trav> no, KDE
[04:24] <trav> I'm on kubuntu
[04:24] <trav> I tried pptp-client too
[04:24] <trav> no luck
[04:24] <trav> although I didn't try it as root
[04:25] <Joshooa> ziroday: I don't see anything on the site about an uninstall script
[04:25] <matt> connect irc://#sex-chat
[04:25] <joeb3_> trav, if you are using network-manager, it has a plugin for pptp.
[04:25] <seuaniu> haha
[04:25] <kto> Hola
[04:25] <trav> joeb3_ Gnome network manager? I'm on Kubuntu
[04:25] <ziroday> Joshooa: one moment
[04:26] <seuaniu> topic
[04:26] <arrayrand> slimg00dy: you asked remotely or locally.
[04:26] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Same problem using both methods of opening GIMP - terminal (2.2 installation) and menu (nothing happens)
[04:26] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: is anything outputted in the terminal?
[04:26] <joeb3_> trav, network-manager-kde will work
[04:26] <Lord`Saladin> When I just type in 'gimp'? Nope
[04:27] <trav> joeb3_ got a url?
[04:27] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: it just doesn't open?
[04:27] <joeb3_> trav, sudo apt-cache install network-manager-kde network-manager-pptp
[04:28] <joeb3_> trav, sorry. apt-get
[04:28] <trav> joeb3:  how did you just come up with that command?
[04:28] <joeb3_> trav, apt-get ?
[04:28] <trav> no how did you know the name of the package?
[04:28] <joeb3_> trav, apt-cache search network-manager
[04:29] <arrayrand> accidently left. did anyone respond?
[04:29] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: That is correct... When I try to open gimp through the Applications > Graphics menu, it shows up at the bottom with the "Starting GIMP" message/status thing, then it goes, and nothing happens, the program doesn't open. If I just type in 'gimp' into the terminal, I get the 2.2 installation window thing.
[04:29] <trav> network-manager-kde is already the newest version.
[04:29] <trav> network-manager-pptp is already the newest version.
[04:29] <Jack_> Be back soon guys
[04:29] <joeb3_> trav, is the icon in the system tray?
[04:29] <trav> yes
[04:29] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: what does gimp -v say?
[04:29] <trav> the green globe
[04:30] <joeb3_> trav, click it. then vpn connections
[04:30] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: GIMP version 2.2.11
[04:30] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: have you installed gimp manually before?
[04:30] <trav> I don't have anything called "vpn connections" when I right click
[04:31] <trav> joeb3: I read somewhere I have to use the gnome network manager.  I tried that as well
[04:31] <Mal3ko> in bash script, do we need to put quote in echo text? eg echo "hello world" or just echo hello world?
[04:31] <joeb3_> trav, left click
[04:31] <trav> I know
[04:31] <trav> I did
[04:31] <byonix> lord saladin sholat jumat
[04:31] <trav> the same context menu comes up for left click and right click
[04:31] <ziroday> Mal3ko: both will work, however quotes are recommended. More bash help in #bash
[04:31] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: "arrayrand: is it possible for me to detect if someone accessed my pc via a live ubuntu cd?"  Remotely, yes, even though you're not using your HDD, your running on RAM which doesn't any any other security measure, least I don't think.  So it should be just as easy to get in, however doing any damage is probably not possible because there is no logical disk the OS is running on.
[04:31] <trav> so I did sudo /usr/sbin/nm-applet
[04:31] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Yes, yesterday I believe, in an attempt to solve the problem I am having - I downloaded the 2.4 packages and installed them manually.
[04:31] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Could that be causing the problem?
[04:31] <trav> and configured using the gnome nm-applet, didn't work
[04:32] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: very likey, and I presume you are running intrepid?
[04:32] <nintendork32> !daemon
[04:32] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: is it possible for you to see that, probably not, unless you have firestarter running and checking your connections.
[04:32] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, i think you are misunderstanding me. I run windows xp. However, i want to know if someone accessed my pc via live linux cd.
[04:32] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: I am now, yes. I just finished the upgrade about twenty minutes ago... I upgraded hoping it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
[04:33] <gleesond> anyone know a tool for remaping the quick launch key on an eee pc?
[04:33] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Oh, that's different, the only way to see that is through your firewall, even if someone is running a live cd and access's your computer via internet, they're still going to have an ip address, but its hard to tell if they did it through a live cd.
[04:34] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: hmm, I recommend you sudo apt-get purge gimp and all gimp related programs and then manually delete all gimp files you can find.
[04:34] <arquebus> gleesond- #eeepc is a good freenode channel for that
[04:34] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Gimp related programs? Any in particular?
[04:34] <shirro> hardy->intrepid broke bluetooth mouse. have removed and paired again but pointer not moving. not sure how to debug further. HAL is a huge mystery to me. have been googling but can't find answer
[04:34] <trav> joeb3_  :25 ubuntu pptp[11254]: anon log[usage:pptp.c:127]: /usr/sbin/pptp called with wrong arguments, program not started.
[04:35] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, no i mean locally. So, say someone boots my computer from a live linux cd, and copies files from my harddrive to a usb key. Could i detect such an act?
[04:35] <gleesond> arquebus: thanks
[04:35] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: gimp-data, gimp-help-common, gimp-help-en and libgimp2.0
[04:35] <joeb3_> trav, http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian.phtml#configure_by_hand
[04:35] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: No that's impossible, there isn't anything running that logs anything at that poing.
[04:35] <slimg00dy> point*
[04:35] <joeb3_> trav, that's the manual way.  no gui
[04:36] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: so it would be impossible to trace that.
[04:36] <trav> joeb3_ no that gets logged when I try and connect using the gnome network manager
[04:36] <nintendork32> i sudo apt-get install daemon to hopefully make daemon running easier, how do i use it?
[04:36] <trav> and kvpnc
[04:36] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Should I purge those as well?
[04:36] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: if possible yes
[04:36] <arrayrand> even through say the bios? lenovo thinkpads don't log hardware connect (usb drives) or timestamps of when a computer was booted?
[04:36] <joeb3_> trav, did you setup a connection?
[04:37] <trav> yes
[04:37] <arrayrand> I know in the recover utility it has a database of connected devices. However, i don't know if that data is being pulled from a windows log file or what.
[04:37] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: The Bios only holds hardware configurations, its not meant to log anything.
[04:38] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Okay. Will I need to reinstall those manually again?
[04:38] <shirro> anyone know how to find out why bluetooth mouse not working after hardy->intrepid? just need a place to start. assume it is something to do with HAL
[04:38] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: have you searched and made sure you removed all gimp files. Like the ones in your home dir and /etc/gimp?
[04:39] <daedhel> hi there
[04:39] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: If it could do that I doubt it would log which files have been copied, I think that feature is just meant to be there to see which device was last connected when the OS crashed.
[04:39] <daedhel> is there anyone knowing thunar, wich is XCFE4's file manager?
[04:40] <Delicates> Anyone knows what ulimits does the init process have and where they are defined?
[04:40] <ziroday> daedhel: the people in #xubuntu will do
[04:40] <robb_m> be back in a few
[04:40] <shaze> I beg and plead to all you great all-knowing geeks, I have a Grub related question, may I ask questions here?
[04:40] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Not yet, but I will be doing that once I have finished removing all the packages, before I try reinstalling
[04:40] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: please :)
[04:40] <daedhel> ziroday; they are dead...
[04:40] <ziroday> daedhel: you just have to wait
[04:41] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, yes, but if i saw a usb device was connected, then i know someone accessed the computer..
[04:41] <shaze> Hello? Can I please ask a Grub/XP-MBR related question here?
[04:41] <shirro> is there a better channel to ask about bluetooth mouse breakage in intrepid?
[04:41] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, so my question is. do you think this data is being pulled from a windows log file?
[04:42] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: If that recovery utility recorded something that didn't need the Windows OS to boot I doubt its from the windows log file.
[04:42] <ASrock> yep
[04:42] <Some_Person> Why is GParted on the hardy live cd not seeing the partitions on my drive?
[04:43] <crabgrass> hi, i'd like to rip a DVD directly to a single, large .vob, but the dvd uses angles and vobcopy can't handle those. anyone know of another way to do this?
[04:43] <ASrock> Some_Person: what kind of drive? what filesystems?
[04:43] <Some_Person> Some kind of SATA drive. Nautilus sees the partitions.
[04:43] <Some_Person> Has some NTFS drives, an ext3 drive, and a swapspace
[04:44] <mchelen> crabgrass, proabably you do not want 1 big vob, and any dvd player should accept the original file layout
[04:44] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, i didn't say it did.
[04:44] <Some_Person> But GParted claims it is just one big unallocated drive.
[04:44] <sunil_> hi all. I've got a fresh install of ibis. I've just installed a new ati card, installed it's drivers with synaptic, and rebooted. How do I now enable the advanced desktop settings ?
[04:44] <ASrock> Some_Person: is ubuntu already installed or are you trying to install it?
[04:44] <crabgrass> mchelen: no, i do. im going to use mencoder to get it down to a manageable size once i get it ripped
[04:44] <jon5000> ubotto:  thanks for the links. through them i was able to find a link to a deb file that brother put out specifically for my scanner.  installed it, but still not recognized.  perhaps this has to do with the fact its wireless?
[04:44] <Some_Person> I am trying to do some partition editing.
[04:44] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Does that recovery utility need windows to start?
[04:45] <Some_Person> It is already installed
[04:45] <Anacranom> I have been using ubuntu since 6.10, currently on 8.04 and holding there, every time i cold boot or restart my PC as soon as it gets past the post, it prints "ERROR2ERROR3" and will sit there the time-out set then check for network boot-etc, if i hit "enter" right away it will continue to the grub menu list and i can boot as normal, i looked at the /etc/fstab and has that there as well, not sure how to resolve this, any help
[04:45] <crabgrass> mchelen: done this a thousand times before (closer to 30, really), but ive only run into problems with dvds that use seperate angles in the same title/chapter
[04:45] <ASrock> Some_Person: why dont you use nautilus then?
[04:45] <mchelen> crabgrass, what program are you using
[04:46] <Some_Person> ASrock: Since when can nautilus delete and resize partitions?
[04:46] <crabgrass> mchelen: im trying to use vobcopy right now, but its output is glitched
[04:46] <aetherith> hey anybody having trouble installing the flash plugin lately?
[04:46] <JulioNeto> does anybody here use Gnash? I'm using it now but it doesn't run any youtube video :/
[04:46] <sunil_> under heron, advanced desktop settings was in the preferences menu. Anyone know how I can find it now ?
[04:46] <ASrock> Some_Person: sorry just assumed it was a partition editor wasnt sure what it was
[04:46] <necro_> ubuntu hangs
[04:47] <Some_Person> ASrock: nautilus is the ubuntu file manager
[04:47] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, no. However, it could be accessing log files which were on the harddrive.. ?
[04:47] <IdleOne> sunil_, prefs>appearance
[04:47] <ASrock> Some_Person: try qparted im not posotive but i think its available with synaptic
[04:47] <ice_cream> oo cool, i like the concept of gnash
[04:47] <Flannel> !info qtparted | Some_Person, ASrock
[04:47] <arrayrand> Actually, if i remember correctly, it looks like it was accessing the special partition created by the utility for reformatting. It seemed to be a file which had accrued all the data.
[04:48] <Some_Person> Any idea why GParted is not working though?
[04:48] <threatrix> can someone help me with an issue im having with an external hard drive
[04:48] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: So, I should remove EVERY single file that is related to GIMP?
[04:48] <mchelen> crabgrass, it looks like vobcopy does not support multi-angle
[04:48] <crabgrass> mchelen: indeed. know of a similar program that does?
[04:48] <sunil_> IdleOne: Durn. I tried that, and the screen flashed for a moment. Then I got a message that just said "Desktop Effects Cannot be enabled".
[04:48] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: obvious files yes, if not sure ask. Removing the /etc/gimp and ~/.gimp-2.4 are a good start
[04:49] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: If that recovery utiilty doesn't need the OS to boot that means it runs right after post, so if someone did connect the USB then it would detect it, but since it doesn't record whether it pulled files or not, I doub there's any other way to see if that's act was done.
[04:49] <Some_Person> So do I need QtParted, or can we get GParted working?
[04:49] <sunil_> Damn - I just got a new card because I wanted the desktop effects.
[04:49] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: there aren't many programs that run after post and before OS boot that could do such logging.
[04:49] <slimg00dy> doubt*
[04:50] <nintendork32> i sudo apt-get install daemon to hopefully make daemon running easier, how do i use it?
[04:50] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, so you are saying there aren't windows log files which the utility could be accessing on the harddrive?
[04:50] <mchelen> crabgrass, there a lot, check out http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/547667
[04:50] <crabgrass> mchelen: checking it out, thanks
[04:51] <threatrix> I set a mount point for my external hard drive in nautilus and well it will not mount now because it was an error any way I can fix this
[04:51] <trav> what's the best linux drive imaging program?
[04:51] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: No, because windows was not booted when live cd's are running, so registry, drivers, services, nothing was running from the Windows OS, it was just off.
[04:51] <trav> anything file based like ImageX?
[04:51] <IdleOne> sunil_, then you probably need to install drivers for your video card
[04:52] <Saga_> As of right now, do CheckGmail works with hosted domain?
[04:52] <sunil_> IdleOne: Ive already installed them via synaptic, and then rebooted.
[04:52] <crabgrass> mchelen: well, looks like mplayer's -dump feature will do the trick
[04:52] <crabgrass> now i just need to figure out decryption
[04:53] <Some_Person> QtParted isn't working :-(
[04:53] <mchelen> crabgrass, ok cool, i have heard good thing about dvd::rip too
[04:53] <nickrud> Some_Person, a silly question maybe, but is the partition(s) you're working with unmounted?
[04:53] <Some_Person> "Critical error during ped_disk_new!"
[04:53] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Alright. Well, I did a search for gimp in Nautilus, and I am getting a lot of repeat file names, ie: gimp20.mo gimp20-libgimp.co and gimp20-script-fu.mo. The files are in the usr/local/share/locale/**Various Abbreviations here**/LC_MESSAGES folders, and then just a load of image files and HTML files.
[04:53] <Some_Person> No partitions are showing up in GParted
[04:53] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, i understand that in order for the device to be detected, the utility can't rely on windows log files if it was connected via a live cd. However, i'm simply trying to determine if the utility aggregates its data via windows log files or independently. Then, once that is determined, i can know if the device was connected or not. Regardless if it was within the windows operating system.
[04:53] <Some_Person> And yes, nothing is mounted
[04:54] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: you can remove those. If not sure then rename them to something else
[04:54] <crabgrass> mchelen: ach, just tried that one. waaay too much hassle, i'd just like a command-line program. once i figure out how to do something, i make little bash scripts to do it for me, and GUIs dont work too well for that =D
[04:54] <kranny> msg <nick> help
[04:54] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: There is also a gimp.applications and gimp.keys text file
[04:54] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, so my question to you, is it possible this utility is in fact simply pulling data form a windows log file? Within the utility, it contains alot of other data about my operating system, so i would presume so. all the way down to installed programs, etc.
[04:54] <nickrud> Some_Person, I had a problem once with a disk, where gparted showed nothing.  sudo fdisk -l told me my disk partition tables were fubar'd. Maybe you'll get a useful error message also
[04:54] <woody86> is there a linux equivelent to myscribe?
[04:54] <jimmio> Wow, that's impressive. Wine can run Left 4 Dead (not well... but it can run it still...)
[04:54] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: if not sure, rename them to something like gimp.applications.old
[04:55] <kranny> hello evryone
[04:55] <crabgrass> hi
[04:55] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Well if the utility detects devices without needing windows to boot then the utility is not pulling your windows log files.
[04:55] <Fear> What is a program that will run an .avi file that is mpeg 1 layer 3? I've have totem-Gstreamer Media player, but cannot get them to show the .avi file.
[04:55] <mchelen> crabgrass, ah ok sure
[04:55] <Saga_> Question -- CheckGmail works with hosted domain?  I can't get mine to work.  I wonder if that's just me or Gmail API.
[04:55] <kranny> got problems wih my graphics
[04:55] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: it shows your installed programs?  Then I would suspect it would do both.  Pull windows log files and create its own.
[04:55] <IdleOne> Fear, try vlc
[04:55] <crabgrass> mchelen: thanks for the assisst
[04:55] <Odd-rationale> Fear: try vlc or mplayer.
[04:56] <Some_Person> fdisk -l looks fine
[04:56] <Fear> I tried mplayer, I'll give vlc a shot, thanks!
[04:56] <IdleOne> Fear, have you installed libdvdcss2?
[04:56] <ice_cream> mplayer failed?  o.O
[04:56] <nickrud> Some_Person, next I'd try downloading the gparted iso, burning a disk and usit that
[04:56] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80682/
[04:56] <IdleOne> !dvd > Fear
[04:57] <\Kira> I have 2 gigs of ram and a dual core proccesor, but yet games lag terribly (even native linux ones). I think its my graphics card thats slowing me down, what do you guys think.... It is a custom built PC. My cousin pretty much stuck a bunch of powerful stuff into a shitty machine. She didnt change the graphics or proccessor, though.
[04:57] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, just to clarify. It's not showing only currently connected devices. It seems to be displaying all devices ever connected.
[04:57] <kranny> help installing nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[04:57] <Some_Person> ugh, no place selling CDs are open now :-(
[04:57] <crabgrass> Fear: i just today found ogle, try that one too
[04:57] <kranny> the driver that hardy has in its repository is givin problems
[04:57] <comradekingu> Some_Person, try Unetbootin
[04:58] <threatrix>  I set a mount point for my external hard drive in nautilus and well it will not mount now because it was an error any way I can fix this
[04:58] <slimg00dy> arrayrand:  So if you were to connect a USB drive before windows boot and run a live version of Linux from the USB, does it log that USB drive after you're done using it?
[04:58] <IdleOne> Fear, talk in here please
[04:58] <Some_Person> TestDisk actually rewrote my partition table after I screwed it about a month ago. Could that have caused this problem?
[04:58] <nickrud> threatrix, you mean you made an error in the dialog window, like using a  / ?
[04:58] <threatrix> yeah
[04:59] <threatrix> and now I cant mount my drive
[04:59] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, i only have on usb drive which is currently already in the log, so...
[04:59] <IdleOne> Fear, please chat in this window.
[04:59] <arrayrand> Although,i haven't tried disconnected it to see if it is then removed from the log.
[04:59] <nickrud> threatrix, gconf-editor /storage , you should find the mount point defined there and you can edit it
[05:00] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80684/
[05:00] <arrayrand> I planned test exactly what you mentioned here shortly.
[05:00] <threatrix> thanks nickrud
[05:00] <Some_Person> This is the output of running gparted
[05:00] <nickrud> Some_Person, scd0 is usually a cd-rom drive
[05:01] <Some_Person> Well, still, GParted shows sda as being an unpartitioned drive
[05:01] <Some_Person> What does it mean by "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"?
[05:01] <keithclark> hmmm....no sound with alsa, suggestions?
[05:01] <mankash> how dat file is used by modpost
[05:02] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Did you use that USB drive before using Windows?
[05:02] <nickrud> some weird cdrom error I'd guess ;) /joke
[05:02] <Saga_> CheckGmail -- Does it work for you (Hosted Domains)?
[05:03] <Some_Person> QtParted produces this when I click on /dev/sda: Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[05:04] <Parvo> !vino
[05:04] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, what do you mean?
[05:04] <louzer> OK here is my situation: 1. I am on Macbook Pro. 2. I was using Mac OS X and Ubuntu happily with the help of refIt and GRUB. 3. I used to boot and see the refit menu, and if I select Linux it would take me to GRUB and I would boot from there. 4. I deleted my swap and moved & resized my Linux partition and I created an NTFS partition in the free space. 5. Then when I booted I saw refIT menu, I selected Linux, but all I would see is "GRUB" and
[05:04] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: For example, if you had a Live version of Linux on your USB drive, and ran that before windows started, would it log that the USB drive was loaded?
[05:04] <Some_Person> Any fix for my problem?
[05:05] <Lagos> Do you have a chance to hit 'e' or some other key, louzer? It sounds like grub's menu.lst might be referencing partitions whose numbers have changed.
[05:05] <jeet> hi
[05:05] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, i'm not sure. I only have on drive, and it was showing up as detected. however, it was already connected, but it looked like an old usb drive of mine was showing up as well which was not currently connected.
[05:06] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Do I REALLY need to go through and remove all the icons etc, or just the files that seem important? Well, either remove or rename.
[05:06] <arrayrand> one*
[05:06] <louzer> Lagos: no , i cant type e. The screen says GRUB and that sall
[05:06] <keithclark> ok, I assume that alsa does not work with my system.  No problems.
[05:06] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: just the ones that seem important.
[05:06] <ice_cream> icons =D
[05:06] <jeet> how should i increase the speed of downloading
[05:06] <jeet> i m trying to download torrent files
[05:07] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, so having only one drive, i don't see how i could test if a drive is detected without booting into windows...
[05:07] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Then I'd say that it only pulls your windows log files.
[05:07] <arrayrand> since my only drive is already in the log.
[05:08] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Though windows log files won't tell you if there was a transfer in the process.
[05:08] <Some_Person> Hang on, I think I found the problem. Is evident in the fdisk -l output
[05:08] <ASrock> jeet: you contact your isp and request a faster connection
[05:08] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, all i need to know if a device was connected to the pc.
[05:09] <Some_Person> Lines 4 and 12: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80682/
[05:09] <JulioNeto> I have installed gnash in Firefox but it doesn't open any YouTube video... is it normal?
[05:09] <keithclark> let me try pclinuxos and see if it works
[05:09] <Some_Person> Seems like the extended partitions covers an extra cylinder that doesn't exist
[05:09] <smokewon> hey there i followed this guide here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-machine.html how do i update the dns cache though?
[05:09] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Well you're trying to find out if someone ran a live version of Linux right?  You can't find out using that utility because windows didn't log it, it wasn't running.
[05:09] <ASrock> JulioNeto: open synaptic and search for flash there should be one that says something like flashplugin-nonfree ...install that
[05:10] <Some_Person> How do I fix this?
[05:10] <louzer> Lagos: I cannot press "e". All I see is a rting "GRUB" in the top left corner and it stays like that
[05:10] <JulioNeto> ASrock, I won't use flash.
[05:10] <JulioNeto> Adobe Flash Player
[05:11]  * JulioNeto is runing Hardy
[05:11] <lovinglinux> Hi. Does someone know a command to convert time in seconds to HH:MM:SS format?
[05:11] <Lagos> man date
[05:11] <ASrock> JulioNeto: well thats how i got youtube to work on mine so if flash isnt your problem than i dont know whats goin on
[05:11] <benbloom> how do i check active ports?
[05:11] <lovinglinux> Lagos: thanks
[05:11] <Lagos> You can give it a format and tell it to convert from another date format string.
[05:11] <arrayrand> slimg00dy, so you have determined it is pulling from windows log files?
[05:12] <smokewon> hey there i followed this guide here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing-on-ubuntu-machine.html how do i update the dns cache though?
[05:12] <JulioNeto> Vimeo don't work and any other video site so
[05:12] <benbloom> !ports
[05:12] <benbloom> !firewall
[05:12] <slimg00dy> arrayrand: Yes that's what it looks like because it can detect your programs installed, which won't help to tell if someone was running a live version of linux.
[05:13] <smokewon> !update dns cache
[05:13] <ASrock> JulioNeto: just humor me and try it
[05:13] <smokewon> !dns cache
[05:13] <Lagos> I think you want 'date -f +%s <number of seconds>, LL.
[05:13] <Some_Person> Anyone know how I can fix my problem?
[05:13] <Lagos> 'date -f +%s <number of seconds>'
[05:13] <JulioNeto> ASrock, try what? Adobe's player?
[05:13] <nickrud> ohh, that's fast man date parsing. I hate that one ;)
[05:13] <ASrock> JulioNeto: flashplugin-nonfree
[05:13] <Lagos> Ah, but wait. date -r <seconds> should be easier.
[05:14] <JulioNeto> ASrock, I can't install it... I have tried all ways... nothing works
[05:14] <keithclark> Yes, it works out of the box on that machine.
[05:14] <nickrud> Some_Person, no, sorry. But, knowledgeable people pass through here regularly; I'd compose a question that includes the link to your fdisk output and ask it every 10 minutes or so
[05:14] <ASrock> well have you tried adobe's then?
[05:15] <JulioNeto> ASrock, yes
[05:15] <slimg00dy> JulioNeto:  What's the error message when you try to install it?
[05:15] <JulioNeto> Firefox doesn't recognize it :/
[05:15] <ASrock> JulioNeto: you need to close firefox then reinstall flashplugin-nonfree then open firefox
[05:16] <Lagos> louzer, I don't know what to say to help. Try booting off a LiveCD (I believe that's doable on a MacBook), checking the filesystem on your Linux partition and making sure the numbering of devices still matches up to what's in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <lovinglinux> Lagos: 'date -r <seconds>' gives me "No such file or directory" error
[05:17] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Most files are renamed, should I also do the .deb files?
[05:17] <dn_> dd /dev/zero'ing the drive was pretty quick
[05:17] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: don't worry about the .deb files
[05:17] <JulioNeto> slimg00dy, well... in the oficial repository case (the 9th one) it can't download the tarball from adobe's server (I don't know why) [erro 404] ... and in the 10 ... nonthing happen
[05:17] <dn_> i tried using gparted to set up the partitions i want but something went wrong and one of them was "corrupted"
[05:17] <dn_> so i'm doing the /dev/zero again
[05:17] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Alright. All done then. What should I do now? Try reinstalling?
[05:17] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: just do sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install gimp
[05:17] <JulioNeto> FIrefox doesn't recognize the Flash Player 10
[05:17] <JulioNeto> :/
[05:17] <louzer> Lagos: OK
[05:18] <JulioNeto> and now Gnash doesn't work too ^^
[05:18] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Alright. Just out of interest, what does the sudo apt-get clean do?
[05:18] <dn_> if using gparted ok? or should i have just got straight into a fresh ubuntu install?
[05:18] <slimg00dy> JulioNeto: Have you tried the Deb/RPM file from Adobe's website?
[05:18] <nickrud> dn_, either works
[05:18] <JulioNeto> what is necessary to use Gnash on firefox?
[05:18] <btoogood> JulioNeto what version of ff do  you have
[05:18] <sysrpl> hey all
[05:18] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: clears all those .deb files. They are cached there so if you remove and then reinstall something you don't have to redownload it
[05:18] <tin> Lord`Saladin: run apt-get with no args to get a help screen
[05:19] <JulioNeto> slimg00dy, EVERYTHING
[05:19] <nickrud> JulioNeto, a willingness to not see most flash content
[05:19] <tin> clean - Erase downloaded archive files
[05:19] <dn_> nickrud: thanks
[05:19] <JulioNeto> btoogood, 3.0.4
[05:19] <dn_> anyway, it's rather late
[05:19] <dn_> night all, thanks for the help
[05:19] <prohna> fresh install and whenever i startx i get a resolution of 1360x768 even though the highest option i have in xorg is 1024x768
[05:19] <btoogood> JulioNeto ok, mine does and runs good
[05:19] <keithclark> ok, another system....how to get microsoft digital sound system USB to work?
[05:19] <prohna> i can use xrandr and change it to 1024 no problem but it doesnt stay if i restart x
[05:19] <slimg00dy> JulioNeto:  Don't have gnash installed while having the Adobe .Deb installed, they cancel each other out, least they did for me.
[05:19] <JulioNeto> btoogood, but I'm in Hardy
[05:19] <JulioNeto> :/
[05:20] <btoogood> JulioNeto yip so am I
[05:20] <JulioNeto> slimg00dy, I have done everything
[05:20] <louzer> Is (hd0,2) same as /dev/sda2 ?
[05:20] <dinx> morning
[05:20] <JulioNeto> btoogood, :/
[05:20] <JulioNeto> btoogood, the 10 one?
[05:20] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Thanks for that one. Also, it says the following are suggested packages:  gimp-help-en gimp-help libgimp-perl gimp-data-extras - Should I also install those afterwards?
[05:21] <nickrud> louzer, no, that would be sda3 (the hd0 starts counting at 0, sda at 1)
[05:21] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: you don't have to, but you can if you want to
[05:21] <btoogood> JulioNeto yip i did a fresh install, used the repo list from another site and did a apt-get update then a dist-upgrade a nd installed flash and it worked
[05:21] <louzer> nickrud: thanks
[05:21] <keithclark> ok, thanks for listening.
[05:22] <slimg00dy> JulioNeto: So I assume you've also installed the flashplugin-nonfree?
[05:22] <nickrud> keithclark, welcome to the wonderful world of linux sound. Much better than the past, but still a problem
[05:22] <keithclark> nickrud, not a problem.
[05:22] <keithclark> nickrud, still dual booting
[05:22] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark: Problem solved?
[05:23] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, nope.
[05:23] <JulioNeto> slimg00dy, yes
[05:23] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, nah, sounds like he's found a usable hack ;)
[05:23] <prohna> fresh install and whenever i startx i get a resolution of 1360x768 even though the highest option i have in xorg is 1024x768
[05:23] <JulioNeto> btoogood, oh! could you tell what site is it?
[05:24] <nickrud> prohna, how about posting a link to the xorg.conf?
[05:24] <btoogood> JulioNeto www.ubuntuguide.org/
[05:24] <prohna> nickrud: where could i upload it?
[05:24] <nickrud> prohna, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark, nickrud: Give me a moment, I have a nice tutorial I used to solve my sound problems when Ubuntu started using Pulse.
[05:24] <ZCool> ÓÐÖÐ¹úÈË£¿
[05:25] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, no way to just switch back?
[05:25] <prohna> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80691/
[05:25] <Roasted> Using Samba, how fast are the average transfer speeds from 1 computer to another on a LAN?
[05:25] <prohna> btw this paste thing is very cool
[05:25] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, I've been very lucky with sound; first I had a card that did hardware mixing (stuck with that for years) and now I have an hda that actually has decent config already
[05:26] <bzerk1> hey, Ive recently installed 8.10, I use a VX Nano mouse and sometimes in firefox the rightclick of the mouse does weird things with links. Has anyone else found this happening to them?
[05:26] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark: Not that I'm aware of, but to be fair, once you have pulse working, it is much better than ALSA; it just takes a fair bit of playing around to work. In my experience anyway. Here is the link, though: http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2008/05/23/skype-microphone-problem-and-complete-pulse-audio-setup-in-ubuntu/
[05:26] <nickrud> prohna, your definition is off; a sec while I refresh my memory (Depth 1 is wrong for sure)
[05:27] <nickrud> prohna, probably just needs to be 24
[05:27] <Lord`Saladin> Keithclark, nickrud: That worked for me, and I believe it includes installing the Pulse Audio Device Chooser which is a great tool.
[05:27] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, Thanks, but way too complicated for me.
[05:27] <Saga_> I'm having issues with CheckGmail apps.  Apparently GMail changed their API -- Does CheckGMail work for anybody else here?  (Hosted Domain!)
[05:27] <Lagos> Linuxlover, my apologies. I was thinking of the BSD tool.
[05:27] <btoogood> i have one problem with 8.10 it doesnt allow me to connect to the internet at all, not even through the live cd. But no problems with any other version only 8.10
[05:27] <bzerk1> Saga_, Yes it works for me.
[05:27] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark: Nah, you'll be fine... Just follow it step by step. I will PM you my IM details, if you like; in case you have any problems?
[05:28] <Saga_> bzerk1, Version 1.13 ?
[05:28] <Roasted> no samba users here????
[05:28] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, Simpler to reboot into windows.  Thanks though!
[05:28] <bzerk1> actually, no 1.12*
[05:28] <prohna> nickrud: for some reason this exact xorg.conf worked fine with the install i just installed over
[05:28] <bzerk1> Saga_, I used apt-get to install it
[05:28] <prohna> only difference is that this is ubuntu server with just fluxbox install
[05:28] <Saga_> Did you ever try the newest 1.13?
[05:28] <bzerk1> nope sorry
[05:28] <nickrud> prohna, just changing default 1 to default 24 should do the job; the Default depth looks for 24
[05:29] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark: That as may be... But wouldn't you rather use Ubuntu? That guide doesn't actually take too long to do, in all fairness; and I'm still a relative newbie to Linux
[05:29] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, I use Ubuntu for everything but sound.
[05:29] <prohna> nickrud: alright gonna restart x
[05:30] <prohna> nickrud: thank you
[05:30] <bzerk1> Anyone else had problems with the vx nano and firefox under ubuntu 8.10?
[05:31] <btoogood> bzerk1 i have with my ethernet
[05:31] <nickrud> prohna, it'd been so long since I did an xorg.conf file here, a nice flash from the past ;)
[05:31] <bzerk1> btoogood, a Logitech VX Nano mouse?
[05:31] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark: Well, use it for sound too... I'll give you some help as well, should you get stuck. The dude that wrote that tutorial was good - it all was very easy to follow.
[05:31] <prohna> nickrud: this computer doesnt have a video card that ubuntu will see
[05:31] <Lagos> date --date='1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC + <number of seconds>' should work for you.
[05:31] <btoogood> bzerk1 nope
[05:31] <prohna> so every install i do i have to mess with xorg to get things working
[05:32] <nickrud> prohna, ah, nice old stuff then
[05:32] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, where to start for just sound support?
[05:32] <ekontsevoy> WTF: nslookup resolves a name just fine, but ssh says 'name unknown': http://pastie.org/331603
[05:32] <Roasted> Any Samba Users?????
[05:32] <Lagos> date --date='1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC + <number of seconds>' +%T
[05:32] <xenoterracid1> ubuntu have an actual IRC client installed by default?
[05:32] <arya> haiiii
[05:32] <xenoterracid1> !update
[05:33] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, you know what?  I read it over, it involves make things and other advanced stuff.  Not for me
[05:33] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, sorry.  Thanks though.  When Linux becomes easier, I shall be there.
[05:33] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, interesting blog that; I've not gotten the mic to work. Wonder if it's adaptable to intrepid. I may experiment with it.
[05:33] <lovinglinux> Lagos: thanks a lot. I found an example in the web...date -d '2008-12-05 <seconds> sec' +"%Y-%m-%d %T"
[05:34] <nickrud> xenoterracid1, pidgin does irc, but I prefer xchat
[05:34] <Lord`Saladin> keithclark: Alright, no worries.
[05:34] <B0BBY> Hello People.
[05:34] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, gotta get things easier!
[05:34] <Roasted> Anybody here use clonezilla?
[05:34] <kindofabuzz> i have WP installed on my home server, but when it sends mail out it sends internally. do i just need to sed up a mail server or something?
[05:34] <xenoterracid1> nickrud: yeah I'm using pidgin, didn't see xchat in programs
[05:34] <xenoterracid1> how do I get a 'run' prompt in gnome
[05:34] <bzerk1> xenoterracid1, remove xchat-gnome and apt-get install xchat
[05:35] <xenoterracid1> it's alt-f2 in kde
[05:35] <nickrud> xenoterracid1, same
[05:35] <keithclark> Lord`Saladin, Otherwise, Windows works just fine.
[05:35] <Saga_> bzerk1, Do you, by any chance, know where profile for CheckGmail stored on?
[05:35] <nickrud> xenoterracid1, if you don't see xchat in synaptic, you need to enable some repos
[05:35] <prohna> in fluxbox alt-f2 minimizes all windows
[05:35] <nickrud> !hardysources
[05:35] <E4emacs4> just think of terminal as a Enormously, advanced "run box" ;)
[05:35] <nickrud> xenoterracid1, those instructions work for intrepid also
[05:35] <bzerk1> Saga_, no sorry.. What is the problem you are having?
[05:35] <prohna> xenoterracid1: i always keep irssi installed just in case as well
[05:35] <Saga_> bzerk1, I'm trying to sign in using hosted domain name.
[05:35] <prohna> if i have issues and cant say get into x i can try and get here and find help
[05:36] <Roasted> Come on, somebody. Clonezilla. Who's used it?
[05:36] <Saga_> I ran the command with -hosted=blah.org
[05:36] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Yeah, I got it to work first time for me using that blog... It was a good guide. And I don't see why it shouldn't work on Intrepid... Only thing I can see that would pose a problem was if the ppa repos haven't been updated.
[05:36] <Saga_> Seems like I should delete the profile first... probably.
[05:36] <bzerk1> Saga_, not a gmail.com address then?
[05:36] <Saga_> bzerk1, No.  Hosted domain.
[05:36] <bzerk1> hrm.. Not sure then
[05:36] <Lagos> Ah! I once used it briefly for a research project, Roasted. A friend was trying to do file system code formal verification. We looked into using it to capture on disk state.
[05:37] <B0BBY> having an issue with sound-juicer. Output format doesn't show mp3. But profile shows mp3.
[05:37] <Lagos> But we abandoned it when we found simpler solutions.
[05:37] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: And maybe a change of package names in Intrepid. But, I think it'll work fine if you just check the repo he gives near the beginning
[05:37] <castillo> is there any artwix fonts in repository??
[05:37] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, yeah. I expect most packages are still around, but the sound ones can change radically between releases
[05:37] <kes0> Hello iam banned on ubuntu-se can someone help me pls?
[05:37] <Jack_> I just installed ubuntu without the bootloader. What do I type in to boot my install from the LiveCD?
[05:37] <nickrud> kes0, ask in #ubuntu-irc
[05:37] <kes0> I was just telling a joke in ther :p
[05:37] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Ah. I see.
[05:37] <kes0> Ok thx
[05:38] <Roasted> Lagos - I'm confused over something. I'm currently trying to use it on the spare computer behind me that I borrowed from work. I'm trying to make an image of my XP install with all of our work programs on it. But it keeps saying the disk is somehow mounted and must be unmounted to work.  Yet, I manually unmount it in the command line and it STILL gives me the same error.
[05:38] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: I installed GIMP again, also installed the suggested packages, and I am getting the exact same problem still.
[05:38] <JulioNeto> ttks :D Otacon22
[05:38] <JulioNeto> sorry
[05:39] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: When I try through both the menu and terminal
[05:39] <xenoterracid1> update manager won't do a dist upgrade will it?
[05:39] <Lagos> Debugging is the art of trying to tell a story and finding where the story went wrong. Some immediate things I would try: run 'mount' without arguments and be sure that it doesn't appear. Make sure I'm using Clonezilla in the right way--Am I trying to clone the correct partition? Am I accidentally telling it to WRITE to a mounted partition?
[05:39] <ridha> Hello peeps, I have a simple question: I have a 1 TB hard drive that I used to store data on in Windows, how can I use this hard drive and the data therein with a fresh ubuntu install?  I'm new to Linux :(
[05:39] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, what errors? And, when you uninstalled gimp, did you get all it's packages?
[05:39] <xenoterracid1> 'cause dell didn't give me a reinstall disk and I don't feel like fixing things now
[05:40] <mker> I use openssh-server for sftp, is there a way to see what is being downloaded? any log?
[05:40] <PeterFA> I have a friend who just installed Ubuntu and she has a screen resolution of only 800x600.
[05:40] <PeterFA> How do I enable the higher reses?
[05:40] <prohna> lots of fun
[05:40] <nickrud> PeterFA, what kind of video card does she have?
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> !fixres | PeterFA - this might help
[05:41] <ridha> would anyone be available to assist with a storage related query?
[05:41] <Fear> vlc worked for running my .avi file (mpeg 1 layer 4), ty odd-rationale, Idleone and the rest of those with advice
[05:41] <mker> ridha, you won't find out unless you tell us what it is you need help with
[05:41] <nickrud> Fear, then you should be able to play it with mplayer if you get the w32codecs, and totem if you get the gstreamer plugins
[05:41] <ridha> I'll go again :)
[05:42] <ridha>  vlc worked for running my .avi file (mpeg 1 layer 4), ty odd-rationale, Idleone and the rest of those with advice
[05:42] <ridha> * tuxtor (n=tuxtor@190.148.130.117) has joined #ubuntu
[05:42] <ridha> uhh, thats not it
[05:42] <nickrud> ridha, just using the up arrow should page though your previous lines ;)
[05:42] <xenoterracid1> !update
[05:42] <prohna> nickrud: im having weird artifacts on screen like parts of windows that disapear when i move the mouse over them
[05:43] <ridha> I have a 1 TB drive that I used to stote data in my Windows OS.  How can I use this HD and the data in it with uBuntu 8.10?
[05:43] <ridha> will it be visible as a HD like it would in Windows, and can I access all the data on it freely?
[05:43] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Yeah, I got all the packages... And the problem I'm having is that when I try to open GIMP through the Applications > Graphics menu, it comes up with the "Starting GIMP" window thing at the bottom of the screen, and then when it goes away, nothing happens and GIMP doesn't open. Then, if I try to open GIMP through the terminal, I get a "GIMP 2.2 Installation" screen, which isn't right, of course, as I should be
[05:43] <Lord`Saladin>  on the new version as I'm on Intrepid.
[05:43] <[Sarai]> Hi! I have an HP pavillion tz2000x running Ubuntu (intrepid) and I'm having an issue with the sound. It beeps a lot, but other than that it does not play sound- i.e. no music, etc. I think it must be a driver issue but I'm not sure what to do
[05:43] <Neurologic> ridha, If it's internal, it will be visible under the Nautilis or Dolphin system, to mount it automatically
[05:43] <Lord`Saladin> ridha: Yes, you should be able to. Someone correct me is NTFS support still isn't native.
[05:44] <ridha> if it is, then there shouldn't be an issue I think
[05:44] <Neurologic> Lord`Saladin, no it is, I move things back and forth between windows and linux all the time
[05:44] <E4emacs4> [Sarai], its prolly more of a Pulseaudio server issue
[05:44] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, you got libgimp2.0 and gimp-data on your purge?
[05:44] <Neurologic> It is, don't worry =)
[05:44] <Lagos> I'm not sure if I understand the question, but I believe by default, Saladin, NTFS support is available but not for writing.
[05:44] <[Sarai]> E4emacs4: what can I do?
[05:44] <ridha> so if I connect my sata 1tb drive to my ubuntu install, it will be recognized and usable instantly?
[05:45] <PeterFA> VGA compatible controller: nVidia GeForce 7150M <-- nickrud
[05:45] <Lord`Saladin> ridha, I believe so... Let me double check for you.
[05:45] <Neurologic> Ridha, gods willing ;) Yes it /should/.
[05:45] <ridha> thank you
[05:45] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: I believe I did.
[05:45] <E4emacs4> ask the gurus here about that [Sarai] , i did it the 'noob' way and just disabled pulse audio lol,  prolly not recommended :)
[05:45] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, you'd have to name them explicitly
[05:45] <E4emacs4> what ever works eh?
[05:46] <[Sarai]> E4emacs4: I should note I'm a linux n00b, I don't know what a pulse audio /is/! Have a recomendation for a guru to ask?
[05:46] <xenoterracid1> where can I manage windowing effects (compiz)
[05:46] <nickrud> PeterFA, try system->admin->hardware drivers, and enabling that driver.
[05:46] <nickrud> !ccsm | xenoterracid1
[05:46] <E4emacs4> nope [Sarai] just ask, if someone knows they'll reply :)
[05:46] <[Sarai]> Okay
[05:47] <xenoterracid1> nickrud: I think they're installed where are the appearance settings
[05:47] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Seems I didn't do a purge for them... the packages were removed automatically, according to the terminal output though.
[05:47] <[Sarai]> Uh, question for the floor then. I apparently have a problem with my pulse audio server on my HP pavillion tx2000z computer running Ubuntu. I cannot get it to make sounds other than beeping. Is there a solution and can you frame it in works my linux n00b mind can wrap itself around?
[05:47] <nickrud> xenoterracid1, system->prefs->advanced desktop settings, or something like that (not installed here, but it starts with advanced ;)
[05:48] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, ah, aptitude?
[05:48] <Drstroker> hi i had a question, running backtrack 3 based on ubuntu, how do i go about getting the video to work on my dell latitude xt, i'm in console but can't startx i've got a ATI® Integrated Graphics Radeon Xpress 1250
[05:48] <Neurologic> !ubottu Pulseaudio
[05:48] <Neurologic> Oop, lol
[05:48] <[Sarai]> lol
[05:48] <Neurologic> !Pulseaudio
[05:49] <Neurologic> !ESD
[05:49] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: I did a sudo apt-get purge gimp
[05:49] <[Sarai]> thanks, nl, I'll check that out
[05:49] <Neurologic> Sorry for bot spam, just wanted some information
[05:49] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, then you didn't get the others, unless you ran an apt-get autoremove afterwards
[05:49] <nickrud> !msgthebot > Neurologic  ;)))
[05:50] <PeterFA> nickrud, when she enables it, does she have to restart x?
[05:50] <Neurologic> nickrud, thanks =)
[05:50] <nickrud> PeterFA, reboot, actually. It uses a new kernel module, the simplest way to activate it is to reboot
[05:50] <SpacePaul> help
[05:50] <E4emacs4> [Sarai], did sounds work in your 8.04? (or is 8.10 your first ubuntu?) If so..what's in 8.10 that you need, that 8.04 doesnt have? *hint 8.04 rocks* and its Long term support :) (LTS)
[05:50] <Neurologic> nickrud, Was useful to [Sarai] as well, or I would have, we're trying to figure out her sound problem, except I'm a noob =(
[05:50] <Lord`Saladin> ridha: NTFS read/write support is available by default. You just need to do a quick install for the GUI config, which you need to 'activate'the write support. Here is a link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G - And the actual line you need to put into the terminal is: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[05:51] <[Sarai]> E4emacs4: 8.10 is my first ubuntu and I have been using it for a week max,...
[05:51] <ridha> Yay!  Thank you (shukran) much Lord'Saladin!
[05:51] <nickrud> Neurologic, no problems at all, just poking fun at the bot spam comment
[05:52] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: So, if I do a sudo apt-get purge gimp libgimp2.0 gimp-data and then a sudo apt-get auto-remove afterwards, that should remove everything?
[05:52] <nickrud> yes. But if you name them explicitly in the initial purge, you don't need to do the autoremove.
[05:52] <E4emacs4> [Sarai], ok well just incase you cannot get your sound working you could always try the tried and  true 8.04, but that would be a last ditch effort. since you already have 8.10 now.
[05:52] <Lord`Saladin> ridha: No problems... Sometimes, after you are used to something, you forget what you had to do to get it to work - I guess you take it for granted... But, pleasure to be of help.
[05:52] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Okay.
[05:53] <[Sarai]> E4emacs4: oh I should also mention I used WUBI to install it
[05:53] <Lord`Saladin> Nickrud: Let me try again.
[05:53] <Sareth> I'm looking for infomation on update-initramfs and crypttab. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[05:54] <E4emacs4> ok [Sarai] well it kinda slows down around here at this out (they all live in Europe or something )  so just keep asking your question someone will get to you :)
[05:54] <[Sarai]> E4emacs4: thanks. I don't want to be a pain
[05:54] <E4emacs4> out=hour
[05:54] <jasonbc_> woopy doo - oh no i got in trouble in the ubuntu forum ...shit
[05:54] <nickrud> the sound people I know are definitely asleep by now
[05:55] <Neurologic> Same lol
[05:55] <nickrud> !language | jasonbc_
[05:55] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Haha... I don't know which time zone you are in, but the sound people where I am are not going to be asleep for much longer. i was up all night doing this upgrade and trying to fix the GIMP issue.
[05:56] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, best one is east coast america, others in europe. LA here.
[05:56] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Ah, I see. I'm in England.
[05:57] <Lord`Saladin> So, it is 6am here.
[05:57] <Neurologic> Indeed it is.
[05:57] <E4emacs4> hey nick im just north of you central cali
[05:57] <Neurologic> You're up early.
[05:57] <E4emacs4> nickrud*
[05:57] <Drstroker> any know how i x to work with ATI® Integrated Graphics Radeon Xpress 1250
[05:57] <Lord`Saladin> Neurologic: Nope... I am up late... Been awake all night
[05:57] <Neurologic> O_O
[05:57] <nickrud> E4emacs4, lived in sacto area. Too hot up there for me ;)
[05:58] <Neurologic> I work today, (1 AM here) I can't stay up that late
[05:58] <E4emacs4> aye that it is
[05:58] <Lord`Saladin> Neurologic: Ah, that makes sense. I am up so I CAN do some work once this GIMP issue is fixed.
[05:58] <nickrud> Drstroker, system->admin->hardware drivers should get you the most up to date driver in ubuntu for your ati
[05:58] <E4emacs4> i was born in Van Nuys nickrud :)
[05:58] <ridha> perhaps another question or two before I being installing Ubuntu...I have an EVGA 780i motherboard; will the Driver CD that came with it install all the necessary drivers (binaries?) for ubunto 8.10, or will I need to download and install drivers manually?
[05:59] <Sareth> Does anyone know anything about encryption in 8.10?
[05:59] <nickrud> ridha, the drivers for it should be in the kernel. You won't be using the ones on the disk that came with the motherboard
[05:59] <ridha> excellent, that would be painless...thank you
[05:59] <mker> Sareth, just ask what you want to know
[06:00] <Lord`Saladin> ridha: It should do... But, the best thing to do is just set up a dual boot for now... That way, you will know if everything works. Is what I did when I first made the move to Ubuntu
[06:00] <ridha> I want to stay away from dual boot for now, and virtualize other OS's once everything is setup...I have a notebook with XP in the meantime
[06:00] <Sareth> I added a drive so naturally I added an entry to crypttab to open it on boot. however update-initramfs says there is an invalid entry in crypttab -
[06:01] <Lord`Saladin> ridha: Fair enough.
[06:01] <Sinister> anyone good with artwork im looking for a mascot for my web page skunkmilk.com
[06:01] <ridha> Suse worked ok when I created a dual boot a while ago, hopefully all will go well again this time :)
[06:02] <Sareth> wine 1.0 took aways any need i had anymore for windows
[06:02] <Lord`Saladin> Sareth: There's no need for Wine, in my experience.
[06:02] <Sareth> anyways, I cant boot normally into my system until I get my crypttab sorted out
[06:02] <nexus23> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave  can someone for the love of god tell me how to fix this nothing on the forums has helped
[06:03] <Lord`Saladin> Sareth: There's plenty of software out there that does the exact same as Windows software.
[06:03] <nexus23> and i have nothing open that would be using alsa
[06:03] <Sareth> Lord Saladin, Rosetta Stone is why I use it.
[06:03] <Ropp> howdy all
[06:03] <Ropp> I am trying to install ubuntu and having some trouble
[06:03] <Lord`Saladin> Sareth: And unfortunately, I won't be able to help with the crypttab problem, as I don't even know what it is. Lol
[06:03] <Lord`Saladin> Ropp, what is the problem?
[06:03] <nexus23> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[06:04] <nexus23> what causes this
[06:04] <Sareth> Lord`Saladin, thats alright. Im just hoping someone will and while I wait maybe i can help others
[06:04] <Cryp71c> Is there anyway of telling which graphics firmware ubuntu 8.1 ships with? On my laptop ubuntu works wonders but w/ other distros it doesn't, and I'd like to find the name of that firmware that's being used.
[06:04] <Ropp> well, I select install ubuntu and the progress bar scrolls back and forth then fills about half way- over a period of about five minutes- then I lose video.
[06:04] <Ropp> after that not much happens
[06:05] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: No luck... Still opening GIMP 2.2 when I do it from terminal.
[06:05] <Sareth> Cryp71c, Its a driver issue. what graphics card do you have
[06:05] <Lancelot> what's the port for the transmission bittorrent client?
[06:05] <Lancelot> is there a default one?
[06:05] <Lancelot>  /how do i find mine?
[06:05] <timboy> somehow my up arrow got remapped to print... I go to keyboard shortcuts but it shows proper print button... help please
[06:05] <Sareth> Lancelot, the best thing is to use a random one.
[06:05] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, very very strange that. try moving your .gimp dir out of the way
[06:06] <Lancelot> nevermind ;)
[06:06] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: I did read or hear somewhere about copying your home folder to keep all the settings etc... Any idea how to do that?
[06:06] <Ropp> Lord'Saladin: well, I select install ubuntu and the progress bar scrolls back and forth then fills about half way- over a period of about five minutes- then I lose video.
[06:06] <bazhang> !home
[06:07] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, copy all the files and dir's that start with a period from your old home to your new; you may need to chown -R <username>:<username> ~ to change the ownership to the new user
[06:07] <nickrud> Lord`Saladin, they're called dotfiles, they are the personal configs
[06:08] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Alright. That's easy enough.
[06:08] <mee> can anyone tell me how you make different xchat *profiles*?
[06:09] <Lord`Saladin> ropp: I'm not sure, to be entirely honest.
[06:09] <Lord`Saladin> mee: Elaborate?
[06:09] <co_culu2> cosl
[06:09] <co_culu2> scf
[06:09] <Ropp> Lord'Saladin I don't know that I could be any more specific- there is no error message- just no video
[06:10] <mee> how do i run multiple instances of xchat with different proxy settings, as you can run multiple profiles of firefox at the same time with different settings.
[06:11] <Lord`Saladin> mee: No idea, to be honest. I've had no reason to run more than one instant of XChat.
[06:11] <Lord`Saladin> *instance, rather
[06:11] <Keu> mee: why do you need to have different proxy settings?
[06:11] <zanberdo_> it turns out one of my podcasts is now formatted m4a.  I'm using rhythmbox as my podcatcher, but evidently I haven't got m4a support.  I'm running vanilla ibex atm.  Any suggestions for how I can playback m4a formatted audio?
[06:12] <mee> Keu,  its hard to explain why
[06:13] <zeno> how do i defragment my hdd?
[06:13] <zeno> ext3
[06:13] <zanberdo_> zeno you don't
[06:13] <seuaniu> zeno, no need in linux
[06:13] <Keu> mee: maybe you should look into the IRC client ChatZilla which runs inside Firefox
[06:13] <zanberdo_> ext3 does not require defragmentation
[06:13] <seuaniu> the filesystem takes care of itself
[06:13] <zeno> seuaniu: zanberdo_ people have told me ext does fragment just less and there is a util
[06:14] <bazhang> zeno, no need for ext3
[06:14] <mee> keu you cant even set up chatzilla to use a proxy, can you???
[06:14] <zanberdo_> zeno it will fragment to some degree, this is true, but the way the fs is laid out you needn't do a thing
[06:14] <zanberdo_> it's not like FAT or NTFS
[06:14] <seuaniu> it'll fragment, but it auto-defrags itself in the background
[06:14] <Keu> mee: maybe, you can use it with firefox profiles I *think*
[06:14] <zanberdo_> you can find some very good information on the differences between a journaled fs like ext3 and FAT.
[06:15] <mee> ahhhh
[06:15] <mee> there's the idea
[06:15] <zanberdo_> so, m4a support with rhythmbox?
[06:15] <mee> is there an irc proxy _command_?
[06:15] <zeno> zanberdo_: ok thx
[06:15] <Sareth> zanberdo_:, check out mediabuntus repository for codecs
[06:16] <zanberdo_> Sareth, I have installed w32codec.  it's rhythmbox specifically (I think) that is having the issue.
[06:16] <ramen> hey can anyone help me with updating apt-file?  i'm totally new to linux and idk why i can't update it
[06:16] <seuaniu> rhythmbox ought to use gstreamer as the backend, so anything gstreamer has installed, you ought to use
[06:16] <seuaniu> check out the restricted codecs for m4a
[06:16] <zanberdo_> I've only just recently switch from using kde to gnome and I'm trying to remain pure (not installing amorak)...
[06:16] <Lord`Saladin> ramen: What are you trying to do exactly?
[06:16] <ramen> um
[06:17] <zanberdo_> seuaniu, I will see if there is something more I need to do, thanks
[06:17] <nexus23> how do i get the old restricted drivers for bcmcutter that came with gutsy
[06:17] <ramen> haha i read this guide online said to just type sudo apt-file update
[06:17] <seuaniu> zanberdo_, good luck, amarock is the best media player i've ever seen
[06:17] <ramen> but... i get this error... wanna see it?
[06:17] <nexus23> now my wireless card doesnt work
[06:17] <JamesG> Is there any simple way to get npviewer.bin (flash) to not crash every 12 seconds? I upgraded to intrepid hoping it would help, but it's only got worse (not 64bit, so the beta version is no help).
[06:17] <Lord`Saladin> ramen: The command is: sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <ramen> hm
[06:17] <Lord`Saladin> ramen: not apt-file
[06:18] <seuaniu> ramen, if you're new, do this:
[06:18] <ramen> i installed something called apt-file tho and it said to update it o.0;
[06:18] <zanberdo_> seuaniu, yes, I have enjoyed working with it for the last 2 years.  I just can't stand kde 4 and thought I might as well try gnome and see what all the gnome fuss is about
[06:18] <ramen> hm?
[06:18] <ice_cream> btw, the effect of aptitude and apt-get are pretty much the same now, no?
[06:18] <seuaniu> system --> administration --> synaptic
[06:18] <ice_cream> apt-get used to fall behind, iirc
[06:18] <seuaniu> there'll be a button to update it, and after thats done, hit the other button to mark all upgrades, then apply
[06:18] <ice_cream> e.g.  aptitude update  versus  apt-get update
[06:18] <ramen> hey cool
[06:18] <ramen> i'll try now
[06:19] <mattycoze> hey can someone tell me whether it'd be possible to install a source file? it's from this site; http://fold.it/portal/
[06:19] <Lord`Saladin> mattycoze: I do believe you have to compile the source first.
[06:20] <ellipsis> I tried installing the xen desktop package
[06:20] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: Grr! Still the same problem. I might have to give it a fresh install, I think.
[06:20] <ellipsis> and after the install it asked me to restart
[06:20] <ellipsis> and now X won't work
[06:20] <mattycoze> Lord'Saladin yeah i've tried the thing where you put in the cmd prompt "sudo make"... ect
[06:20] <Lethain> I
[06:20] <ellipsis> if I boot into recovery mode, run fix x and resume normal boot it works
[06:20] <ellipsis> but if I do a normal restart it doesn't start
[06:20] <mattycoze> but it doesn't do it :( lol
[06:21] <Lord`Saladin> mattycoze: Ah, I see. Though, I don't have the slightest clue how to compile source code.
[06:21] <mattycoze> neither...
[06:22] <Lethain> Im fairly new to Ubuntu, but i have manage to remove the default network option in the top panel, how do I get it back, or anyone any guides i could just read?
[06:22] <ramen> i found apt-file in synapsis thingy but i don't have an option to update
[06:22] <ramen> just to reinstall
[06:22] <ramen> when i try to update it in the console it says it needs my ubuntu disk
[06:22] <ramen> and then i get some weird error i think it's about mounting?
[06:22] <seuaniu> hit the reload button
[06:23] <ramen> it still doesn't have an option to upgrade
[06:23] <ramen> i mean
[06:23] <ramen> udate
[06:23] <ramen> *update
[06:24] <ellipsis> any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this?
[06:24] <ramen> i guess this apt-file is supposed to tell me something about something about making .tar .gz to packages
[06:24] <ramen> or something
[06:24] <seuaniu> ramen, lets start at the beginning: what is it you're trying to do?
[06:25] <ramen> haha thanks guys um..
[06:25] <ramen> i'm trying to install... this screen capture software
[06:25] <ramen> and the packages don't work
[06:25] <ramen> cuz something about libraries and that
[06:25] <seuaniu> ok, whats it called?
[06:25] <ramen> ummmm
[06:25] <ramen> lemme check XD
[06:25] <FloodBot2> ramen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <ramen> it's xvidcap
[06:27] <seuaniu> ok, no tar.gz needed.  in synaptic, search for xvidcap.  it ought to show up in the box underneath the search box.  click the square next to it to to mark for installation
[06:28] <ramen> thanks :D  i'll give it a shot
[06:28] <seuaniu> say ok to the dependencies that need to get installed.  hit the apply button, and synaptic will install it for you
[06:28] <ramen> no xvidcap in synaptic =(
[06:29] <huwenfen1> i am using pidgin, i register in nickserv, but my register name is huwenfeng, now , my name here is huwenfen1, but in my app settings ,my name is huwenfeng@irc.freenode.net, what's wrong?
[06:29] <seuaniu> strange, shows up in mine
[06:29] <mattycoze> has anyone got Foldit to work on their machines?
[06:29] <Sareth> ramen, in a command console put 'sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get -y install xvidcap'
[06:30] <Lord`Saladin> Sareth, what's the -y do?
[06:30]  * Lord`Saladin is curious is all.
[06:30] <ramen> haha o.0;  it just goes to the next line.  i have 7.10 if that's relevant
[06:31] <timboy> somehow my up arrow got remapped to print... I go to keyboard shortcuts but it shows proper print button... help please
[06:31] <dft_> Lord`Saladin: I believe the -y is for "yes to install"
[06:31] <seuaniu> 7.10?  don't know if xvidcap is in that one, i'm on 8.10
[06:31] <Lord`Saladin> dft_: Thank you.
[06:31] <ramen> oicic
[06:31] <dft_> Lord`Saladin: np
[06:32] <ramen> i'm just going to go update haha.  thanks guys
[06:32] <conor> So why is it that Morrowind was running fine on my computer but after i updated it no longer runs?
[06:32] <gbear14275> I am having a problem mounting a partition and am not sure why, can someone suggest a disk checking utility or a COA
[06:33] <JECHO> gnome partition manager
[06:33] <zerodevice> hi everyone, i've install phpmyadmin and apache into the ubuntu server, and its access by the address http://LAMP/phpmyadmin, but how do i change the path of this phpmyadmin? becoz its too easy to be figured it out.
[06:34] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way i can find out my ubuntu version number using only the terminal?
[06:34] <dft_> did anyone know if they'll offer a binary update via update manager from 8.04 to 8.10
[06:34] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: lsb_release -a
[06:34] <dft_> like the update from 7.10 to 8.04
[06:34] <Flynsarmy> Flannel, thanks
[06:35] <Flannel> dft_: Of course they will.  If you haven't been asked yet, you may been to change your upgrade settings (in software sources) to ask about every release, not just LTS
[06:35] <Lord`Saladin> zerodevice: Surely you have set passwords for the mySQL database, right?
[06:35] <ice_cream> oh, i cant update to 8.10, cause apparently it needs 70mb or so free space on /boot
[06:35] <Flannel> ice_cream: You can remove old kernels
[06:35] <ice_cream> perhaps
[06:35] <ice_cream> but suppose the total space on /boot is 60mb
[06:36] <xenoterracide_> umm... where do I find enterprise apps like postgres and httpd
[06:36] <zanberdo_> ok, I do a lot of work on the cli and I can't stand that the default location for documents, music, etc. all start with a capital letter.  Where can I go to change the various default paths.  I know simple renaming them doesn't address all the various apps that expect them to be here or there...
[06:36] <Flynsarmy> Flannel, lsb_release: Command not found
[06:36] <zerodevice> lord'saladin, yes there is username and password being setup. but i would not feel secure so i would like to change the path or folder name so that no one knows.
[06:36] <Flannel> ice_cream: That's.... prohibitivly small.
[06:36] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: Thats not normal.  You've either got a botched install, or aren't on... a good number of linux distributions.
[06:36] <zanberdo_> postgresql is in the repos
[06:37] <ice_cream> xenoterracide_, search for it first using ubuntu's synaptic tool or through terminal with apt-cache search
[06:37] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: How about uname -a,w hat does that tell you?
[06:37] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: `uname -a` that is.
[06:37] <mchelen> zanberdo_, its actually pretty safe to just rename them, they are only suggested directories
[06:38] <ice_cream> hmm, strange on the postgres..
[06:38] <Flynsarmy> Flannel, Linux sellerbyte.net 2.6.9-023stab048.6-enterprise #1 SMP Mon Nov 17 19:09:18 MSK 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[06:39] <Lord`Saladin> zerodevice: Try this tutorial - http://www.elated.com/articles/password-protecting-your-pages-with-htaccess/
[06:39] <Flannel> Flynsarmy: That's certainly not Ubuntu.  Looks to be custom, and they don't have lsb_release available, obviously.
[06:39] <xenoterracide_> ice_cream: the add/remove progs in menu is synaptic right? why don't he same progs show up in that as apt-cache search?
[06:39] <zanberdo_> mchelen, sadly the Places menu does not reflect these changes...
[06:39] <Lord`Saladin> zerodevice: Though, apart from that, I am unsure... Apart from just renaming the phpmyadmin folder? Though, I am doubtful the rename would work, as it may affect other stuffs.
[06:39] <zerodevice> lord'saladin, thanks
[06:40] <Flannel> xenoterracide_: No, Add/remove gives a subset (with stylized names, etc) of the packages.  synaptic is system  >admin > synaptic package manager.
[06:40] <dft_> zerodevice: you can rename the folder without issue
[06:40] <dft_> it's just a container for the web app
[06:40] <xenoterracide_> Flannel: ah, first time really using ubuntu, thanks
[06:40] <ice_cream> xenoterracide_, maybe you need a  sudo apt-get update  first, then try searching with  apt-cache search   again
[06:40] <btoogood> any problems upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10
[06:40] <zerodevice> lord'saladin, im thinking of changing the apache config where it would point other names. and since i havent do any thing in the mysql db, so its ok for now if its anything goes wrong
[06:41] <zerodevice> dft_ thanks. i'll do that as well
[06:41] <ice_cream> but i cant test it, as i dont have synaptic
[06:41] <xenoterracide_> ice_cream: already took care of all updates
[06:41] <Lord`Saladin> zerodevice: Other than that, with phpmyadmin being open source (I believe), you might be able to change the phpmyadmin/index.php file so that it auto redirects to a page that needs a user/password to go back to the index.
[06:41] <Flannel> ice_cream: Do you have a particular example we could use?  What do you see in add/remove that you're looking for the package name of?
[06:41] <Lord`Saladin> zerodevice: If that makes sense?
[06:41] <dft_> zerodevice: if you really wanted too, you could setup a vhost with phpmyadmin directorty as the document root and create a dns cname to that machine
[06:42] <ice_cream> Flannel,   xeno asking the q, not me =D
[06:42] <Flannel> xenoterracide_: Do you have a particular example we could use?  What do you see in add/remove that you're looking for the package name of?
[06:42] <Flannel> ice_cream: Indeed, apologies.
[06:42] <krish> iam using ubuntu 8.10 abd cookies are blocked in my browser. How can I allow cookies?
[06:42] <btoogood> is it just me or is firefox slow in 8.04
[06:43] <ice_cream> but my guess is that the synaptic search results have been filtered/limited to certain repositories
[06:43] <grendal_prime> grrrrr avant window manager works shitty on ibex
[06:43] <Lord`Saladin> krish: That will be in your browser settings; probably under privacy or security settings
[06:43] <Flannel> grendal_prime: please watch your language
[06:43] <marshall> how do i disable ipv6?
[06:44] <marshall> ubotu ipv6
[06:44] <marshall> !ubotu ipv6
[06:44] <zerodevice> lord'saladin, dft_, thanks. i just found out i could just edit change the alisa of the phpmyadmin and it solves everything
[06:44] <marshall> !ipv6
[06:44] <Steven2> hmm
[06:45] <dft_> zerodevice: alisa?
[06:45] <Lord`Saladin> dft_: I'm pretty sure he meant alias.
[06:45] <zerodevice> lord'saladin, dft_, alias* in the phpmyadmin config file and then name it anyword i like. e.g. http://LAMP/whydoilikeheroestvseriessomuch
[06:45] <Steven2> so i see
[06:45] <PeterFA> How do I enable remote desktop from a fresh install?
[06:45] <dft_> zerodevice: ahh
[06:45] <dft_> zerodevice: I'm a vhost junkie
[06:46] <mDemocritus> i was mucking around with apache, and it didn't show a new directory that i had created, so i restarted the server, and got a message here-> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/80723/ ...that looks real suspicious, i'm worried my box is compromised, since that sure as heck isn't my ip, and it doesn't trace to my isp (wide open west) and the tracepath to the ip in the error is very suspicious
[06:46] <zerodevice> dft_, thanks anyway, at least now i know something like vhost exist. :P
[06:46] <mDemocritus> any ideas?
[06:46] <Flannel> mDemocritus: The error is normal (no fqdn), but if thats not your Ip, that is odd.  Check your hosts file
[06:46] <Flannel> !hosts | mDemocritus
[06:47] <dft_> mDemocritus: what's your external ip?
[06:47] <Flannel> mDemocritus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache is the bit about fixing that apache error
[06:47] <mDemocritus> different... 64.53.237.235
[06:47] <omg> hello i need help connting to wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 it says there no wireless networks there please help
[06:48] <dft_> mDemocritus: what did you set for "server name" in httpd.conf
[06:48] <mDemocritus> Flannel: i could care less about the error message, but it should just go to localhost or 127.0.0.1, right?
[06:48] <dft_> mDemocritus: wait this is ubuntu so apache.conf
[06:48] <omg> can someone help
[06:48] <Steven2> hm?
[06:48] <Flannel> mDemocritus: localhost, yeah.  That page gives localhost as the example.
[06:48] <omg> hello i need help connting to wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 it says there no wireless networks there please help
[06:49] <Flannel> mDemocritus: It'll take stuff from hosts I believe, if it isn't defined.  Which is why I said to check your hosts
[06:49] <dft_> mDemocritus: you're "server name" in the global settings is resolving to an external ip address
[06:49] <[Sarai]> omg: do you have a broadcom wireless network card?
[06:49] <omg> wt is that?
[06:49] <mDemocritus> dft_: "server name" isn't found by nano in that file
[06:49] <Flannel> mDemocritus: Because it isn't.  Create a new file for it
[06:50] <mDemocritus> Flannel: nope, nothing wierd in hosts
[06:50] <[Sarai]> omg: it's a brand of network cards that isn't automatically supported by ubuntu. I had to download drivers for mine before I could get it to work
[06:50] <omg> its a inbuilt wireless card
[06:50] <dft_> mDemocritus: one sec, ubuntu's apache setup is different from what I'm used to
[06:50] <Flannel> mDemocritus: That's odd indeed.  Oh well, go ahead and follow that guide, and it'll be fine
[06:50] <Flannel> dft_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[06:50] <[Sarai]> omg: that's probably the problem
[06:50] <omg> where do i get the drivers and what are the drivers i need
[06:50] <dft_> mDemocritus: follow the instructions on Flannel's link
[06:51] <dft_> mDemocritus: it's exactly what I was trying to say
[06:51] <Andrew``> !ntfs
[06:51] <Andrew``> !ntfs-3g
[06:51] <[Sarai]> omg: check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[06:51] <PeterFA> So, my friend has an nvidia card and only has a low resolution on her fresh Ubuntu install.
[06:51] <Ninina> Hello, I'm having trouble changing my icon set. It changed to the gnome default icons and I can't change it back
[06:52] <dft_> Flannel: that's exactly what I was trying to get across, thank you I'm just a CentOS guy with respect to apache
[06:52] <mDemocritus> Flannel, dft_: thanks for that info... should i be worried?
[06:52] <PeterFA> What's the command line way of activating it?
[06:52] <dft_> mDemocritus: no
[06:52] <[Sarai]> omg: I think there's an easier way of doing it, though
[06:52] <omg> ye but you no when u click networks no internet connections show
[06:52] <[Sarai]> mine sort of did it automatically
[06:52] <[Sarai]> I'm pmming u okay?
[06:52] <Flannel> dft_: We use the debian method, everything (well, separate things) get separate files, etc.
[06:53] <omg> when i did i search it said they was a wireless card
[06:53] <dft_> Flannel: yeah, my RH habits are hard to break, I use ubuntu primarily for Desktop purposes
[06:53] <omg> but no inernet connections showed up
[06:53] <ajdf> how do u use wine?
[06:54] <dft_> ajdf: cork bottle and drink
[06:54] <PeterFA> ajdf, wine file.exe
[06:54] <dft_> ajdf: responsibly of course
[06:54] <PeterFA> ajdf, are you pregnant or nursing?
[06:55] <mDemocritus> ok new problem... i moved a directory under the website root to a new name, now it's not found when i try browsing to it
[06:55] <dft_> PeterFA: hmm, looks like ajdf couldn't take a joke
[06:55] <PeterFA> dft_, heh.
[06:55] <Flannel> mDemocritus: Where did you move it?
[06:55] <mchelen> zanberdo_, check it, they should actually work, it is just the display name that is capitalized
[06:56] <byonix> lol
[06:56] <DMJC> hey
[06:56] <mDemocritus> was called musiclist, now just called music. it's in the website root
[06:56] <DMJC> is there a distro specific option for where programs will be installed?
[06:56] <dft_> heh, anyone had the chance to work with the EEEpc 901's?
[06:56] <mDemocritus> Flannel: oops nm i think i found it
[06:56] <DMJC> eg a variable you can use to locate files no matter what distro the program is installed on?
[06:56] <DMJC> I'm trying to write a gui frontend to a program
[06:56] <Flannel> DMJC: `which program` will give you the full path.
[06:57] <Flannel> DMJC: However, just calling the program ought ot work, since its in the path
[06:57] <DMJC> I'm not trying to do that tho
[06:57] <DMJC> I'm trying to call say dvbscan
[06:57] <DMJC> with dvbscan /usr/share/dvbscan/configfile
[06:57] <mDemocritus> Flannel: yeah that was my mistake... had a prebuilt version of the site in a subdirectory, and didn't have my path right... whoops.
[06:57] <DMJC> it's the path for /usr/share/dvbscan I want to locate on any system
[06:58] <DMJC> and use for my frontend
[06:58] <mDemocritus> Flannel: it's all good now, thanks
[06:58] <omg> im off to maccers later anyone wanna come?
[06:58] <DMJC> basically the contents of that dir should become a drop down option
[06:58] <zanberdo_> mchelen, unless I've done something wrong, it's no good.  I've renamed the directories and now they are no longer visible in Places.  I've dragged the new directories to the places panel in nautilus so they at least show up under bookmarks in places.
[06:58] <zanberdo_> documents is the killer though
[06:58] <zanberdo_> and has been even with kubuntu
[06:58] <zanberdo_> there were a few different files I needed to change in kubuntu in order for kde to properly handle documents
[06:59] <zanberdo_> I'm guess it's the same case here
[06:59] <zanberdo_> as the bookmark to documents in places is not valid
[06:59] <omg> i need to connect to this internet on ubuntu hwho can helo me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:59] <zanberdo_> I may be wrong on that last point though
[07:00] <ryuho> a process (PID unusually low = 6200) is not dying by pkill or kill or killall (with or without sudo), what should i do?
[07:00] <dft_> omg: what's up?
[07:00] <dft_> ryuho: sudo kill -9 <pid>
[07:00] <lordleemo> ? in gutsy if i opened say apache on port 80 i couldnt browse the site untill i had opened the port in my firewall.  my ??? why doesnt firestarter or ufw do the same in hardy
[07:00] <[Sarai]> dft_: he needs a broadcom driver
[07:01] <zanberdo_> hmm. seems ok. anyway, time for bed.
[07:01] <zanberdo_> night
[07:01] <evanotten> Hello, I have been trying to install a new theme, my problem is upon saving to desktop then extracting here i have yet to be able to point my theme manager or emerald to the theme to install it, can anyone offer me advice?
[07:01] <ryuho> great
[07:01] <ryuho> dft_, thx that worked
[07:01] <dft_> Sarai: ahh, Dell laptop possible?
[07:01] <[Sarai]> dft_: he says acer
[07:01] <dft_> ryuho: np
[07:01] <omg> dft_ i cant connect to internet wirless on my acer.... there is nothing that searces for it. if i got to system admin theres nowt called network
[07:01] <dft_> [Sarai]: is it 3rd party?
[07:02] <[Sarai]> dft_: not sure
[07:02] <omg> dft- get a job
[07:02] <dft_> omg; wth? do you want help or not?
[07:02] <omg> i need help i will hit u
[07:02] <omg> please
[07:02] <[Sarai]> omg: quit insulting us we're trying to help you
[07:02] <omg> i no
[07:02] <omg> im just angrey
[07:02] <omg> sorry guys
[07:03] <FloodBot2> omg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <dft_> [Sarai]: nm, I have no time for ignorance
[07:03] <seuaniu> evanotten, don't bother extracting the theme, you can usually just drag and drop it onto the them window, and gnome will auto-install it
[07:03] <PeterFA> So, there's this thing to do to get nvidia driver working: "try system->admin->hardware drivers, and enabling that driver." But, when my friend does it, she gets a status bar that shows 0 progress and then vanishes.
[07:03] <omg> please help
[07:03] <omg> really
[07:03] <Guest43722> I need help i isntaled ubuntu 8.1 and when i did the resultion tool worked fine! i could do multiple desktops and everything. Then i updated my software and now everything is mad. That tool doesn't reconise my screens at all!
[07:03] <omg> i need hhelp
[07:03] <evanotten> standby plz and i will try
[07:03] <dft_> omg: it's not our fault, you could always google it
[07:03] <PeterFA> What's the command line equivelent?
[07:03] <Guest43722> and all of the cool scol bars are gone
[07:04] <Guest43722> the color themes are waay of
[07:04] <lordleemo> Does anyone know a firewall that actually works in hardy. ie blocks ports  rather than just allowing everything
[07:05] <dft_> lordleemo: iptables will do it
[07:05] <gbear14275> I'm getting an error about a partition being unable to mount because it contains invalid characters... how do i change the mount point?
[07:05] <dft_> lordleemo: do you want to block outgoing or incoming or both?
[07:05] <lordleemo> dft_:  both my friend
[07:05] <dft_> lordleemo: what service?
[07:06] <eweb100> can anyone help me with a display issue?
[07:06] <lordleemo> dft_: the problem i have is . if i open apache say port 80 firestarter would still blocjk the port on hardy its doing nothing
[07:06] <outboard> how do i stop 8.10 hanging when installing when it tries to detect the usb  ?
[07:06] <gbear14275> eweb100: i probably can't but whats your display issue
[07:06] <evanotten> OK the theme i would like is a GTK2.0 Theme I have kde 3.5 and emerald installed and on 8.04 currently will i have an issue installing such a theme if so how would i go about installing this precise theme found at http://maketecheasier.com/10-of-the-best-linux-desktop-customization-screenshots-to-inspire-your-creativity/2008/11/28
[07:06] <eweb100> thank you
[07:07] <eweb100> After i installed all of the updates for ubuntu my themes stoped working
[07:07] <eweb100> it doens't reconise my screens any more
[07:07] <dft_> lordleemo: firestarter is your fw?
[07:07] <eweb100> and the color themes are waayyy off
[07:07] <gbear14275> which updates did you install?
[07:07] <eweb100> all of them
[07:07] <eweb100> lol
[07:07] <lordleemo> dft_: ive tried firestarter and ufw
[07:08] <eweb100> well if there was a log i could tell you
[07:08] <eweb100> but i dont know of any
[07:08] <eweb100> uhh everything looks ugly
[07:08] <lordleemo> dft_: it used to work  but after upgrade no firewall blocks any ports
[07:08] <Jumblehead> Does anybody know of any distros Live that come prepackaged with vmware?
[07:08] <gbear14275> eweb100: are you talking about an upgrade to ibex? or updates since last week?
[07:08] <dft_> ahh, upgrade to 8.10?
[07:08] <lordleemo> dft_: intrepid
[07:09] <eweb100> i have no idea. I did a clean instalation today. it said there was updates
[07:09] <eweb100> i clicked instal
[07:09] <seuaniu> evanotten, gtk themes and kde (qt) themes are different and don't work with each other as far as i'm aware.  head on over to kde-look.org and try to find an equivilant theme there
[07:09] <eweb100> then it asked me to reboot..and boom nothing works
[07:09] <eweb100> the way it ust to
[07:09] <gbear14275> eweb100: so you installed a clean version of intrepid and things looked fine?
[07:09] <seuaniu> also, emerald themes can be installed through the emerald theme manager
[07:10] <dft_> lordleemo: standby
[07:10] <eweb100> intrepid?
[07:10] <orgthingy> how can i *install* Jdarkroom (java program >> jre)
[07:10] <orgthingy> i want to make a .deb out of it
[07:10] <gbear14275> intrepid ibex... ubuntu 8.10
[07:10] <outboard> how do i stop 8.10 hanging when installing when it tries to detect the usb  ?
[07:10] <evanotten> ok i have found one that i like it is here,  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=77150forgive me for being FNG
[07:10] <eweb100> i just did a clean instalion of ubuntu 8.1 64 bit
[07:10] <eweb100> gnome
[07:10] <evanotten> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=77150
[07:11] <gbear14275> eweb100: there's no such thing as 8.1... do you mean 8.10?
[07:11] <evanotten> can you assist me in doing this properly so i dont have to ask someone again
[07:11] <bdelin88> anyone know why the pdf on this training page doesn't open? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=student-7.10.pdf
[07:11] <eweb100> ya
[07:11] <eweb100> isn't that the same?
[07:11] <eweb100> o well i ment 8.10 sory
[07:11] <dft_> lordleemo: what does sudo ufw status return?
[07:12] <gbear14275> no, ubuntu releases are by date y/mm so 2008/10th month = 8.10 FYI
[07:12] <outboard> how do i stop 8.10 hanging when installing when it tries to detect the usb  ?
[07:12] <seuaniu> evanotten, Decompress the Azneins Theme and find the readme.pdf inside. It tells you how to install the theme
[07:12] <seuaniu> thats what it says on the page you posed
[07:12] <seuaniu> *posted
[07:12] <gbear14275> eweb100: do you have any graphics cards? and did you install the drivers for them?
[07:12] <lordleemo> dft_: status loaded
[07:12] <eweb100> gbear14275: got any ideas?
[07:13] <evanotten> ok thank you
[07:13] <eweb100> yes i have
[07:13] <bdelin88> anyone know why the pdf on this training page doesn't open? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=student-7.10.pdf
[07:13] <eweb100> let me check if they are still instaled
[07:13] <dft_> lordleemo: and no rules listed after "loaded"
[07:13] <Flannel> bdelin88: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=student-7.10.pdf
[07:13] <eweb100> how do i check if it is instaled?
[07:13] <Flannel> bdelin88: Oh, still PDF doesn't open.  Interesting.
[07:13] <bdelin88> Flannel: yep
[07:14] <bdelin88> Flannel: it wont open through any of the online ones as well lol
[07:14] <lordleemo> dft_: no ive set it to block... say i open port 80 it should still block that port but it doesnt
[07:14] <bdelin88> Flannel: great guide... haha :)
[07:14] <Flannel> bdelin88: its 0KB, that's why ;)
[07:14] <gbear14275> system --> hardware drivers
[07:14] <Flannel> bdelin88: See the links at the bottom of the page (about all the attachments), you'll see theres a few chapters
[07:14] <eweb100> ya i did that
[07:15] <dft_> lordleemo: what did you type on teh command line to setup and enable the blocking rule?
[07:15] <bdelin88> the guide isn't complete? :(
[07:15] <gbear14275> eweb100: system --> admin --> hardware drivers
[07:15] <eweb100> it says ati/amd graphics driver
[07:15] <eweb100> i asume that is the correct driver
[07:15] <lordleemo> dft_: sudo ufw deny
[07:15] <bdelin88> Flannel: the guide isn't complete? :(
[07:15] <Flannel> bdelin88: You might try #ubuntu-training
[07:15] <bdelin88> will do
[07:15] <gbear14275> I couldn't tell you, do you have an ATI card?
[07:16] <eweb100> yes
[07:16] <eweb100> ati radion 1500
[07:16] <eweb100> its old..
[07:16] <gbear14275> eweb100: nothing wrong with that, so when you say "ugly" what do you mean?
[07:16] <dft_> lordleemo: you need to be more specific in the rules
[07:16] <eweb100> ugly as the icons have all changed
[07:16] <dft_> lordleemo: teh defaults must allow port 80
[07:17] <eweb100> nothing looks as flush
[07:17] <dft_> lordleemo: do this sudo ufw deny proto tcp to any port 80
[07:17] <eweb100> well the real thing i care about is being able to have my 2d monoter be usefull
[07:17] <dft_> lordleemo: sudo ufw enable
[07:17] <gbear14275> icons have all changed to what? and what does "flush" mean
[07:17] <eweb100> as a extended desktop. and i was able to do this BEFORE the upgrade
[07:17] <gasull> Hi.  Does anybody here know how to overcome the bug that prevent the boot log from being saved?  (The bug persists after editing /etc/default/bootlogd
[07:18] <eweb100> ok well picture windows vista..then going down to windows 98
[07:18] <gasull> and is reported in Launchpad since Feisty)
[07:18] <lordleemo> dft_: ill do that and try
[07:18] <eweb100> it is like that
[07:18] <gbear14275> are you using kde or gnome?
[07:18] <eweb100> gnome
[07:18] <gbear14275> and everything looked ok before you updated?
[07:18] <eweb100> shure did
[07:18] <PsycoMufn> Hey, I have a big problem.  My synaptic package manager wont work and I cant update.  Whenevr I launch eather the  synaptic package manager  or the update manager, it starts to load then just exits.  I did add a few things to the third party list and I may have done something elce.  How do I get this to work again?
[07:18] <dft_> lordleemo: you should get something like this http://pastebin.com/m247a4439
[07:18] <eweb100> it looked fine
[07:19] <eweb100> well it looked the way it is sopost to
[07:19] <gbear14275> check to see if you now have an ATI control panel under the system menu
[07:19] <eweb100> yes i do
[07:19] <eweb100> and i had it before
[07:19] <gbear14275> check the settings there
[07:19] <stickz> Could anyone recommend a good book about Ubuntu that would be appropriate for someone with little knowledge of Linux (yet one that would still be useful for someone with much experience with Linux as well)?
[07:20] <gbear14275> had you restarted or activated your ATI driver before the update or at the same time?
[07:20] <PolitikerNEU> Hello everyone, does anybody know where to get a Sis-Mirage 3+-driver (for Ubuntu 32bit 8.10, and fedora 10 and opensuse 11 would be nice too)
[07:20] <bdelin88> stickz: yes i would like that as well :)
[07:20] <grendal_prime> damn it this is pissing me off... Im using avant navigator (hoped up awn type deal) with hardy when i clicked on an icon of an app that is running on another desktop it would move me to that desktop, since i installed ibex it does not do that.
[07:20] <dft_> stickz: honestly, i've learned everything from google
[07:20] <grendal_prime> anyone run into this problem?
[07:20] <eweb100> before the update
[07:20] <dft_> stickz: and man pages
[07:20] <stickz> Same here. I mostly taught myself everything I know
[07:20] <Lord`Saladin> grendal_prime, mind the language please.
[07:20] <stickz> I was just trying to find a book I could get for a friend
[07:20] <grendal_prime> sorry
[07:20]  * Lord`Saladin nods.
[07:20] <stickz> and was seeing if there's one that a lot of people in the community might suggest
[07:21] <grendal_prime> just really frustrated
[07:21] <[Sarai]> So, I asked this a while back and was told to keep asking since no one at the time had an answer. I have an HP pavillion tx2000z running Ubuntu intrepid, and the only noise my sound card can apparently produce is beeps. I've tried running the patch to fix pulseaudio in flash in firefox, and also downloaded the "restricted ubuntu extras" package to no avail. Suggestions?
[07:21] <dft_> stickz: get them an old pc with a base install;)
[07:21] <bdelin88> lol i just would like a physical book on the terminal
[07:21] <SeeWhy> i all
[07:21] <bdelin88> or a guide would be nice
[07:21] <gasull> Hi guys.  It seems I have Postgres 8.2 and 8.3 running at the same time, so I'm wasting CPU.  Should I remove Postgres 8.2 for better performance?
[07:21] <bdelin88> the ubuntu-training wiki is in shambles apparently
[07:21] <stickz> Well, I installed Xubuntu for a friend, but he hates digging for information. And then he gets too lazy to dig into how things are working most of the time.
[07:22] <grendal_prime> this sounds soo windozy but im going to reboot this thing and see if there is something that didnt get fired up right.
[07:22] <stickz> I'll look online for book reviews I guess
[07:22] <SeeWhy> How to write a code, which will be automatic run my command every second
[07:22] <lordleemo> dft_: ok  so it says port blocked but i can still visit the page on port 80
[07:22] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: Try taking a look at this tutorial - http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/2008/05/23/skype-microphone-problem-and-complete-pulse-audio-setup-in-ubuntu/
[07:22] <SeeWhy> How to write a code, which will be automatic run my command every second
[07:22] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | SeeWhy
[07:22] <bdelin88> lol i killed pulse audio and brought back also on my intrepid install :)
[07:23] <dft_> lordleemo: strange, one sec
[07:23] <alex_21> Anything that is accessed by the GUI is also doable on the command line? And how can I find out how? Is there a tool that I can use to dicover this stuff
[07:23] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: thanks will do
[07:23] <eweb100> brb ime doing a restart
[07:23] <eweb100> i changed some settings
[07:23] <eweb100> and it wants me to restart
[07:23] <bdelin88> brought back alsa*
[07:23] <Lord`Saladin> alex_21: Yes. Google.
[07:23] <lordleemo> dft_: ive also tried firestarter the same thing happens nothing is being blocked
[07:24] <bdelin88> anyone know why my nautilus sometimes crashes when i reboot, as in my desktop icons disappear
[07:24] <alex_21> Besides Google as that is very time consuming to a blind web surfer
[07:24] <Parvo> !patience
[07:24] <seuaniu> SeeWhy, check out crontab for scheduled commands
[07:24] <gbear14275> can someone help me resolve and invalid characters error when trying to mount a volume
[07:25] <gbear14275> been looking through material but can't seem to find what I need
[07:25] <Giraffe> SeeWhy: what do you want to write
[07:25] <grendal_prime> nevermind i figured it out..i needed desktop wall enabled
[07:25] <SeeWhy> a
[07:25] <SeeWhy> yes
[07:25] <SeeWhy> I want to flush dns cache
[07:25] <Giraffe> ...every second?
[07:25] <Lord`Saladin> alex_21: In that case, I have no idea. I always use Google, and then here as the last resort.
[07:25] <grendal_prime> so nice the way that works
[07:25] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: the instructions in that tutorial is for hardy: I thought pulse audio was preinstalled in intrepid?
[07:25] <SeeWhy> yes
[07:25] <Skip_> *bg*
[07:26] <Giraffe> ...
[07:26] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: It is, as it was in Hardy as well.
[07:26] <gbear14275> invalid charachters, mount problem?  anyone able to help?
[07:26] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: I need to reinstall it?
[07:26] <dft_> lordleemo: are you trying to access that port via localhost?
[07:26] <bdelin88> Lord`Saladin: which is why i removed pulse and put alsa on :) i feel like a genious, sorry haha
[07:26] <eweb100> Well that didn't help
[07:26] <[Sarai]> oh, nm, I get it :)
[07:27] <eweb100> Is there any way i can rolllback the settings of the last update?
[07:27] <lordleemo> dft_: no my friend im older annd wiser than that
[07:27] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: I think most of the things should work... Just double check the repositories on the site it gives, to make sure there are repos for Intrepid
[07:27] <dft_> lordleemo: np, good to know my audience
[07:27] <eweb100> Can you rollback the settings of something??
[07:27] <eweb100> i mean of an update
[07:27] <Lord`Saladin> bdelin88: I prefer Pulse, to be honest.
[07:27] <alex_21> Well, I don't know then, maybe Google will be good. I just thought you guys may know a site that I can use to search for this. Not google, but a site made for listing these commands
[07:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | eweb100
[07:28] <lordleemo> dft_: im not realy into iptable my friend . but it seems like they are not working
[07:28] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: not sure how to do that? I'm a linux n00b
[07:28] <dft_> lordleemo: I'm not a fan of iptables either, I've primarily worked with pf on openbsd
[07:28] <METAL> holey cow alot of folks here
[07:28] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: you busy?
[07:29] <Paddy_EIRE> gbarberi, hey there dont ask to ask.. just ask :)
[07:29] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: Seems he only has it for Hardy.
[07:29] <bdelin88> Lord`Saladin: eh, i probably would too but it doesn't work with audacity and i really like audacity, plus pulse had to emulate my alsa drivers
[07:29] <lordleemo> dft_: good man been around then eh... im starting to think i might need to just dp a full reinstall
[07:29] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: so it won't work for me?
[07:29] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: I honestly don't know.
[07:29] <dft_> lordleemo: it's all about the right tools for the job
[07:30] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: You can try at your own risk, but I don't know if I would risk it.
[07:30] <marshall> for some reason i dont seem to have to kernel module hci_usb which I believe would allow me to use my internal bluetooth device (im on a thinkpad t61p)
[07:30] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: you able to mentor a little on mount points?  I'm having problems mounting a volume due to invalid characters
[07:30] <METAL> I was hopping I could get some help with ubuntu and the new install.  I have a dell vostro 1500 but it is getting to hot so I want to know how to install a fan control
[07:30] <dft_> lordleemo: there must be something declared in /etc/ufw/before.rules that's interfering
[07:30] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: I don't think I will... can you think of anything else that might help?
[07:30] <eross> here's a question, can i install a .i386 deb on an amd64?
[07:30] <Lord`Saladin> [Sarai]: Unfortunately not.
[07:30] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, have you tried force mounting it?
[07:30] <[Sarai]> Lord` Saladin: that's okay, thanks for trying
[07:31] <gbear14275> eross: yes, I just found some instructions on that to install skype, try google about that
[07:31] <lordleemo> dft_: give me a sec ill go and look
[07:31] <eross> ok
[07:31] <Paddy_EIRE> eross, yes you can.. you need ia32-libs
[07:32] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: have not tried the mount command in terminal, although I'll go try that now
[07:32] <METAL> anybody help with fan control on a dell vostro laptop?  will need complete instructions to install though
[07:32] <eross> oh.. it's in the repos?
[07:32] <Paddy_EIRE> gbarberi, yes
[07:32] <Paddy_EIRE> !info skype
[07:32] <Paddy_EIRE> !skyoe
[07:32] <Paddy_EIRE> !skype
[07:32] <eross> ok
[07:34] <gbarberi> Paddy_EIRE, you might want to type 'gbe' before you tab complete :)
[07:34] <Black_Hands> help , how to use samba ?
[07:34] <Black_Hands> I install but can't find :-??
[07:34] <stdiopt> U shake ur arse
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> !samba
[07:35] <sloopy> Black_Hands, setup a file in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:35] <stdiopt> And u "sambing"
[07:35] <lordleemo> dft_:  hit this addy and tell me what you get  http://87.123.147.13/
[07:36] <stdiopt> Hey someone here had probs with hd 4850 and compiz/x11?
[07:36] <outboard> how do i stop 8.10 hanging when installing when it tries to detect the usb  ?
[07:36] <wenko> outboard: crtl+alt+del
[07:37] <alex_21> So any idea on my GUI to CLI problem
[07:37] <outboard> and that will throw it out of the install
[07:37] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, what?
[07:37] <marshall> i think i need the kernel module hci_usb to get my internal bluetooth working (thinkpad t61p) but it doesnt appear to be packaged with my kernel, how do I get it?
[07:37] <dft_> lordleemo: nothing
[07:38] <alex_21> I need to figure out what actions are taken when pressing a button on a gui. I mean, how to replicate the action the program takes with the CLI
[07:38] <outboard> seriously trying to get a dual boot happening is not meant to be this hard
[07:38] <alex_21> For example, how Network Manager adds a netwrok interface via CLI
[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, HA!... I sure wish life was that easy.. google use "linux command" or "linux command learn" into google and take your pic
[07:39] <dft_> lordleemo: your box is in denmark?
[07:39] <ekaw> I have downloaded Gtablix, and extract. But there no *.deb. How I can  install Gtablix on my ubuntu ?
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, you can read the source code for network manager on launchpad
[07:39] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: wa able to do that
[07:39] <alex_21> Oh, groan, more Orca speech. I think I will use Voiceover, but then I have to sift thgrough everything, smiley, I am blind you see. Is there any specific site that lists all commands for Ubuntu
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, sorry what?
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, no
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, there is no single solitary well of information
[07:40] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, was able to force mount it although now the partition has fallen off my places list...
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, where did you mount it to?
[07:41] <alex_21> Oh, because looking at source code isn't really an option as I am only six months into programming and then I am writting my own front end, based on GNome
[07:41] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: /media
[07:41] <alex_21> Writing, sorry
[07:41] <stdiopt> Fglrx instabilitie anyone?
[07:41] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, learn to crawl before you try sprinting
[07:42] <alex_21> I know that saying, but to use Ubuntu I need to write my own front end
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> stdiopt, try making sense.. or forming better questions
[07:42] <outboard> is there a way of telling the installer to ignore usb ?
[07:42] <alex_21> I mean, it is a real joke the accessibility on some packages
[07:42] <Lord`Saladin> YES!!! Get in!!
[07:42] <outboard> it does fine installing untill it starts probing the usb and then hangs
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, well you obviously need something a little more specialised mate
[07:43] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: I managed to get it to work!
[07:43] <Lord`Saladin> nickrud: I had to install the getdeb repos for it to work though
[07:43] <alex_21> I know, but no linux is there yet
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> alex_21, writing your own front-end should take you all of the rest of your life :)
[07:43] <lordleemo> dft_: Thankyou for you time and patience my friend very kind of you
[07:44] <gbear14275> alex_21: I assume you have already looked for other options for ubuntu which may be of use to the visually impaired?
[07:44] <alex_21> And, no, I am making a web based front end, so it isn't that hard
[07:44] <Lord`Saladin> At least I can do some work now.XD
[07:44] <alex_21> I did, and some packages just drive me up the wall
[07:44] <mtholdenss> yo whats up?!
[07:45] <Lord`Saladin> 8.10's Pidgin is pretty cool.
[07:46] <alex_21> OH, PIGIN, ANOTHER ONE THAT I THINK IS ON THE LIST OF INACCESSIBLE
[07:46] <Dabbu> epiphany browser doesn't open few websites like "orkut.com" i getr an error message "“www.google.com” could not be found"....any help ?
[07:46] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin: the only thing I don't like about pidgin is i can't make group chats in msn
[07:46] <gibobo> Need help with a dial-up modem
[07:47] <outboard> if i am manualy preparing partitions do i need to add a boot partition or just an ext3 and a swap ?
[07:47] <gbear14275> how do i add a partition back to the "places" menu list?
[07:47] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: Why ever not? I've not had any problems with doing it.
[07:48] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin: how do you do it?
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> outboard: you can do either
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> outboard: and /boot can be ext3, or some others
[07:48] <gibobo> Nobody knows how a to make a dial-up modem work
[07:48] <Dabbu> epiphany browser doesn't open few websites like "orkut.com" i getr an error message "“www.google.com” could not be found"....any help ?
[07:48] <Schalken> Anybody know where I might be able to get a deb for Python 3.0?
[07:48] <outboard> i want it to dual boot with an xp partition  , does that make a difference ?
[07:49] <METAL> outboard, that is what I use on my laptop I haven't had any problems
[07:49] <outboard> or will it just use the root partition as a boot partition ?
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> !modem | gibobo
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> outboard: not for thsi part, no.
[07:49] <METAL> the only issues I know of, are when you do updates it adds onto the bootup selection for ubuntu but there is a way to remove them
[07:49] <karab44_> hi
[07:50] <karab44_> I lost graphics accel after latest update
[07:50] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: is editing the fstab file the only way to add a partition to the places list?
[07:50] <METAL> But ti works fine for me
[07:50] <outboard> i keep getting a problem on my laptop when it tries to probe the usb storage  , there is no usb storage pluged in and that is why it can't find it
[07:50] <gibobo> Yes i did
[07:50] <gibobo> but the problem is that I have a pctel modem
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, no
[07:50] <ziroday> Hi, does anyone know a calendar maker?
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, so long as it is mounted under /media/ then it should be listed
[07:51] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: Open Window with first contact > Click on Conversation > More... > Initiate Chat. That will open a new tab for the group chat. Click on, whilst in that new tab, Conversation > Invite > Then choose who you want to invite.
[07:51] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: is there an easier/safer way you might be able to point me towards?  I don't have a problem with google, just not sure what to search for
[07:51] <zom1> I set my girlfriend up with an ubuntu 8.10 disk using a usb stick for persistant until she gets a net harddrive. I tested this on my own pc first and it worked great. Just got hers up and it's spamming "Starting File Browser" things. Anyone know what's going on?
[07:51] <gibobo> in the documentation it tales me to downgrade the kernel, is there any other way
[07:51] <mker> ziroday, evolution has a calendar
[07:51] <zom1> new*
[07:51] <ziroday> mker: calendar maker, as in one I make and then it prints of :)
 Plenty of web based ones like Google Callendar, but Evolution should do it I think
[07:51] <ziroday> alex_21: see above
[07:52] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: Though, that seems more complicated on the new Pidgin. Before, it was just a case of hitting Conversation > Invite and then selecting who you want in
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> gibobo: maybe, maybe not.  The linmodems people will know better.
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> ziroday: scribus is a general-purpose desktop publishing tool.
[07:52] <Lord`Saladin> Ah, ziroday: I fixed my GIMP problem.
[07:52] <gibobo> ok becaus efor what i've got I have to downgrade to ubuntu 5.10 linux kernel
[07:53] <ziroday> tonyyarusso: I'll look into it, thanks!
[07:53] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: awesome, what was it?
[07:53] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: You want just to create a calendar to print? Use a spreadsheet. Lol
[07:53] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: what was your calendar problem?
[07:55] <METAL> help   anybody know about fan control for laptops?
[07:55] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: I mean gimp, sorry?
[07:55] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Not sure, I went through and *removed* EVERY single gimp file/directory etc... Then purged gimp, libgimp2.0 and gimp-data, and then had to add the getdeb repos, did a sudo apt-get install gimp, and it was fine.
[07:55] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Something told me it had worked, when I tried to put in gimp at the terminal and it didn't let me: "No such command"
[07:55] <zom1> anyone know why the ubuntu livecd in persistent mode is spamming "Starting File Browser" things in the taskbar?
[07:56] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: great
[07:56] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: So, your calendar thing? What are you wanting to do specifically?
[07:56] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin: man that is tedious to add a bunch of people
[07:56] <ziroday> Lord`Saladin: create a calendar, with pictures to give out in paper form
[07:56] <gbear14275> although that is great information!  thanks
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, did that work for you?
[07:57] <gbear14275> there a way to add a group of people at a time?
[07:57] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, no not yet, when i mounted to /mount/ it wouldn't show up in the places list
[07:57] <ellipsis> okay
[07:57] <ellipsis> I give up
[07:57] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: I noticed that all the other partitions were at /media/disk-X
[07:57] <ellipsis> been trying to fix my ATI drivers for the last hour and a half
[07:57] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, another idea would be to just bookmark it in nautilus
[07:57] <gibobo> tonyyarusso: do you know if there is a channel to talk to someone of linmodens?
[07:57] <gbear14275> so I think i have to make media/disk-3 and then try and mount it to there
[07:57] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, nautilus bookmarks show up under places
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> gibobo: Not that I know of; just the mailing list.
[07:58] <ellipsis> I tried installing xen-desktop and for some reason when I restarted after that x didn't start
[07:58] <robb_m> Paddy_EIRE, thats the only thing i can think of else to do man....
[07:58] <gbear14275> i do that with a couple network folders
[07:58] <ellipsis> and I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the ati drivers and X still doesn't start
[07:58] <Paddy_EIRE> robb_m, there are also a few options with gconf-editor
[07:58] <robb_m> Paddy_EIRE, sorry..been lurking....came in and have been following your conversation....
[07:58] <ellipsis> the only way I can boot up into X is by going into recovery mode, running dpkg and fix X
[07:58] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[07:59] <ellipsis> any ideas on how I can debug this?
[07:59] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: Not that I can see. And, it seems that they made that worse... There used to be a list of all your online buddies show up, but that seems to have gone now. Hm. I'm not sure. Try "pidgin group chat mass invite" on Google. Might come up with something for you.
[07:59] <Peddy> Bluetooth does not work at all in Intrepid. As in, I can't pair with devices or use OBEX. Can someone please help me?
[07:59] <robb_m> Paddy_EIRE, i had the same issue a while back..wanted to see if there was another way, but yeah..those you listed were my only ways i knew as well.
[07:59] <Lord`Saladin> Ziroday: Have you tried OpenOffice Presentation?
[08:00] <ellipsis> *sigh*
[08:00] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin: I still have my buddy list show up
[08:00] <ellipsis> can anyone atleast give me some ideas on how I can debug this?
[08:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience
[08:00] <Lord`Saladin> Apparently it is like Powerpoint in some ways, or Publisher, though I've never used it before. That would be the best bet I reckon.
[08:00] <gbear14275> you might have to have it filter by online buddies, i can't remember how i got mine to show up like that
[08:01] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:01] <METAL> I8k fan control is this the best for laptops
[08:01] <odracir34> good morning vietnam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:01] <METAL> LOL
[08:01] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: Thank you for the guidance, I was able to get it working now :) a little mkdir action and it seems to be all set
[08:01] <gbear14275> 8.10
[08:01] <Paddy_EIRE> gbear14275, cool :)
[08:01] <sajuuk> hey guys im trying to install GLBCC from a tar and it doesn't seem to be working
[08:01] <gbear14275> if you are really bored... you could point me at a cifs howto... trying to get my wrt54g to log to a file off the router
[08:02] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: Ah. Strange, I'll have to check it, though I don't do group chats often. Have you tried the ctrl key?
[08:02] <robb_m> sajuuk, got build-essential?
[08:02] <robb_m> sajuuk, sorry...just trying to get the basics out the way first :)
[08:02] <gibobo> I just can't understand why ubuntu cannot handle dial-up modems ( on laptops) I tough that it was the easiest of the ways to connect to internet. And I don't get it that it wasn'nt a priority. Ubuntu is supposed to help people who cannot afford an expensive OS, like in poor countries ( africa). Do you think that they all have Wifi and ADSL?
[08:02] <sajuuk> yep
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> gibobo, dont come to moan here
[08:03] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin: nope... ctrl wont highlight multple persons, and the only way I found to initiate a group chat was after I was in an IM window already
[08:03] <robb_m> sajuuk, what errors if any is it giving you?
[08:03] <Paddy_EIRE> gibobo, you should have checked to see if your modem was supported to begin with
[08:03] <sajuuk> i have extracted the tar file
[08:03] <klevererthanu> evening all
[08:03] <gbear14275> gibobo: you tried looking for info on google... i find it hard to believe they dont...
[08:03] <robb_m> and furthermore pushing !ot there gibobo :)
[08:03] <sajuuk> and i go to ./configure in terminal where it is extracted to/at
[08:04] <sajuuk> but it does nothing
[08:04] <Flannel> gibobo: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/modem.html
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> gibobo, and ubuntu is not supposed to help people who cannot afford an expensive OS... thats not the mission statement or goal
[08:04] <klevererthanu> having problems with flashplayer version reinstallation
[08:04] <sajuuk> says the file/folder 404
[08:04] <sajuuk> if you get me
[08:04] <gbear14275> Paddy_EIRE: well... it kinda is, isn't it?  bring OS usability to the masses?
[08:04] <gibobo> I know, its just that I have been trying to figure it out since two days looking for an answer
[08:04] <gibobo> sorry
 I undertand. Kurdish, which I needed for a volunteer project, as well as for my personal likfe had no screen reade until Febuarry of 08, and only after I put the right people in touch and got coordinating
[08:05] <alex_21> Understand, sorry
[08:05] <Paddy_EIRE> gbarberi, yeah but nothing to do with undercutting anyone on price.. ubuntu abides by the foss principles primarily
[08:05] <Flannel> The economic situations of the users is irrelevant.  As far as this particular issue is concerned, there's plenty of people who have dial up just because they do, not behcause they have to, so it's irrelevant.
[08:06] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: In that case, I honestly don't know. I have only ever done one group chat before EVER on Pidgin, if not my life, and that was with two people other than myself. Lol. So it worked just fine for me
[08:06] <Flannel> gibobo: Did you try the instructions on that page?
[08:06] <gibobo> Yes i do
[08:06] <Flannel> gibobo: and?
[08:07] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin:  :), I'm an online gamer although not WoW type stuff, its much lamer actually ;), but yeah, mass IM conversations were necessary for coordination
[08:07] <cham_eleon> hey guys. after my update to 8.10 my mouse has a "bug". it still moves but i can't click. restart of x solve the problem. i tried serveral mouses, etc. everytime the same :(
[08:08] <cham_eleon> sometimes the mouse works for hours but then it stops clicking
[08:08] <malv> there a problem with the Ubuntu alternate install cd requesting me to put in the disk which is already in there. Wtf?
[08:08] <METAL> laptop or desktop
[08:08] <sajuuk> robb_m, what do you think is the problem?
[08:08] <gibobo> actually i am on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/PcTel and I not sure that is the right thing to do. can you check it out and tell me what to think. I have the feeling its out of date.
[08:08] <robb_m> im not sure sajuuk sorry.....
[08:09] <robb_m> honesty wasnt paying attention, was trying to help in another channel....
[08:09] <sajuuk> robb_m, you do your ./configure first yeah?
[08:09] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: You really can't get any lamer than WoW. But, as an alternative that is probably MUCH better...Why not use IRC? Not sure about Freenode as it's so big, but on other networks you can make your own rooms, and set them so only people you want can enter, or even SEE that the room exists.
[08:09] <gbear14275> Lord`Saladin: www.worldofaegis.com, text based strategy game
[08:10] <robb_m> sajuuk, it should be ./configure then make and then make install iirc?
[08:10] <robb_m> i havent done "source" in quite a while man.....sorry....
[08:11] <sajuuk> robb_m, neither have I, I prefer not to... but im trying to get this BASIC compiler working so I can do some tutorials
[08:11] <gbear14275> so yeah, it takes alot more brains than WoW, but some might argue "at least WoW and Runescape have 3d"... eh, depends on your definitions I guess ;)
[08:11] <Peddy> sajuuk: ./configure, make, then sudo make install
[08:11] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: I think I've heard of it... I myself do text-based roleplay. But, I would say IRC is the way forward -- and it further ensure anonymity. I would hate having to give my MSN to all the people I RP with
[08:11] <gbear14275> I had 5 MSN's at one point
[08:11] <Lord`Saladin> LMFAO!!!
[08:12] <robb_m> Peddy, oh..forgot sudo :(
[08:12] <sajuuk> sajuuk@Silver:~/Downloads/glbcc-0.1.0$ ./configure
[08:12] <sajuuk> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:12] <Lord`Saladin> Still, IRC is good for game stuff, as the operator system generally allows for easy social ranking etc etc
[08:12] <bakarat> how do i rename a computer in 8.10?
[08:12] <bakarat> (graphical way)
[08:12] <Flannel> !hostname | bakarat
[08:12] <gbear14275> :), but yeah, there is a chat client in there... although in needs alot of work... I actually run that game now and the programmer on the team is looking to do an ajax chat setup
[08:13] <bakarat> Flannel, problem is that system > administration > networking is...gone?
[08:13] <robb_m> bakarat, for kde help try #kubuntu
[08:13] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: How many people would be on the chat? AJAX, from my experience can be BAD if a lot of people are on there, for chat anyway
[08:13] <Peddy> robb_m: well, actually you don't have to sudo for some software, and it's probably better to try without sudo and see if it fails,  but you forgot the 'make' step in between configure and install  ;)
[08:13] <bakarat> robb_m, why would i want kde help? :|
[08:14] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: PM me for more info, this is decidedly off topic
[08:14] <METAL> what channel do you suggest for getting help with laptops andubuntu
[08:14] <sajuuk> so why isn't my configure working?
[08:14] <sajuuk> its confusing
[08:14] <gbear14275> hmm... would like to support up to 250 simultaneous...
[08:14] <gibobo> Flanel ? are you still there
[08:14] <hasan_> hi
[08:14] <robb_m> bakarat, i was assuming since you pused wit the elipses :)
[08:14] <gbear14275> our coder is a pro... he should be able to provide a scalable solution
[08:14] <Lord`Saladin> gbear14275: Not much hope of that, I'm afraid, Just for the way it works. PM me, and I will explain
[08:15] <robb_m> peddy, no i didnt, i said configure, make then make install :)
[08:15] <sajuuk> i did a GUI extract from the tarball, right click> extract, folder extracts glbcc into a folder
[08:15] <hasan_> i have laptob
[08:15] <jim_p> morning
[08:15] <METAL> so do I hasan and I can't get any help LOL
[08:15] <hasan_> but my webcam don t work
[08:15] <hasan_> please help me
[08:16] <METAL> what is your system
[08:16] <alex_21> AJAX chat? Did someone say AJAX chat? If done correctly that will work great with accessibility software
[08:16] <robb_m> if nobody knows the answer METAL..then nobodys GONNA answer..and if you arent following our advice...thats just your part :)
[08:16] <hasan_> intel
[08:16] <METAL> is it a dell hp  waht type model etc
[08:17] <Peddy> robb_m: I'd better go get some sleep.
[08:17] <jim_p> METAL, is there something particular you want to learn about a laptop model?
[08:17] <alex_21> And please don't use constantly refreshing HTML, that sucks for people trying to use screen readers
[08:17] <hasan_> sorry it is asus
[08:17] <METAL> yes how do I get a program to control the fan
[08:17] <METAL> it gets way to hot with ubuntu
[08:18] <robb_m> well guys, im gonna go...its 2AM...if my clocks right....
[08:18] <METAL> ouch
[08:18] <alex_21> There are some programs. i am going to use one for my Servers, on the rack they get pretty hot with Ubuntu, but there are programs that will do that. I just don't remember which
[08:18] <hasan_> ubuntu knows all hardwares
[08:18] <gibobo> can someone tell me if this page is out of date or if there is any other way to do it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/PcTel , I got the feeling that it is to much of a downgrade of the linux kernel for ubuntu 8.04...
[08:18] <hasan_> but not webcam
[08:19] <METAL> you need the make and  model to be albe to find it hasan
[08:19] <malv> anyone know if its possible to encrypt a preexisting partition?
[08:20] <anothrguitarist> I'm trying to get lxdream to work with an intel graphics card
[08:20] <sajuuk> perhaps someone else can download GLBCC and compile it from source and see wot the problem is
[08:20] <anothrguitarist> The developer's site says it won't work, but I recall hearing that someone got it working anyway
[08:21] <anothrguitarist> The problem is with the open gl drivers or something
[08:21] <anothrguitarist> Anyone have advice?
[08:21] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, do you have direct rendering now?
[08:21] <anothrguitarist> Not sure if I have direct rendering or not
[08:21] <anothrguitarist> When I run lxdream, it says it's not doing direct rendering
[08:22] <anothrguitarist> Not exactly sure how to get it to do otherwise
[08:22] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, at a terminal                  glxinfo | grep direct
[08:23] <anothrguitarist> Says no direct rendering when I grep glxinfo
[08:23] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, then this is your problem :(
[08:23] <anothrguitarist> :\
[08:23] <anothrguitarist> Is it something I'm stuck with until the drivers are improved?
[08:24] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, well i would make a proper xorg.conf and not rely on xorg1.5 silly auto stuff
[08:24] <anothrguitarist> Ah, I see
[08:25] <anothrguitarist> Have a link where I could read up on that?
[08:25] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, give me a sec
[08:25] <anothrguitarist> Just to note, my card is an intel x3100, I believe
[08:25] <anothrguitarist> :)
[08:25] <hasan_> i
[08:25] <hasan_> hi
[08:25] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, do this for a sec                 cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[08:25] <evanotten> hello i just download ksplash engine moodin 0.4.2.tar.gz and do not know how to install it can someone help?
[08:26] <avatar> hi there. after upgrading from 8.04 LTS to 8.10 I noticed three errors. a) gnome does not save sessions anymore (I learned that this is a gnome problem, not ubuntu specific), b) I got massive problems with hanging firefox as soon as flash was loaded (fixed by de-installing flashplugin-nonfree and installing latest flash 10 beta from adobe) and c) - the problem I was unable to fix until now - problems using konsole. I can type some text and hit return ...
[08:26] <avatar> ... - but konsole don't show any output. only after I press another key (return again) I see the output.
[08:26] <avatar> any idea about fixing c?
[08:26] <jim_p> evanotten, can you give me a link of it?
[08:26] <anothrguitarist> Should I restart x, and come back to the chatroom?
[08:26] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, no!
[08:26] <Flannel> avatar: You might ask in #kubuntu, they may be more familiar
[08:26] <evanotten> i dont understand your request
[08:26] <anothrguitarist> :P
[08:27] <evanotten> i saved the file to desktop
[08:27] <jim_p> evanotten, where did you download it from?
[08:27] <hasan_> i have laptob my oprating system is ubuntu and its model is asus but my webcam dont work
[08:27] <avatar> Flannel: will try, thx. but I use Ubuntu (and only konsole as additional app).
[08:27] <hasan_> can anyone help me
[08:27] <jim_p> hasan_, is the camera found in lsusb ?
[08:28] <evanotten> from filetube
[08:28] <evanotten> i tried from http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25705 however it directed me to some baseball page
[08:28] <jim_p> evanotten, thanks :P
[08:28] <hasan_> yes
[08:28] <evanotten> ok
[08:28] <jim_p> hasan_, under what name ?
[08:28] <outboard> is there somewhere i should post a problem with installing and a work around ?
[08:29] <jim_p> anothrguitarist, can i pm you a link?
[08:29] <anothrguitarist> Yes :)
[08:30] <mchelen> outboard, on the forums?
[08:32] <outboard> i kind of meant is there a particular forum i should post it on
[08:32] <outboard> but meh i'll figure it out
[08:32] <alex_21> I can't see my server on the network, why could this be?
[08:33] <alex_21> Well, I am blind so that might have something to do with it, but seriously, I can't find the box I need. I can't find Golden-Retriever by IP
[08:34] <alex_21> It won't show up, like a bad puppy, when I nmap the network
[08:37] <mattycoze> hey i've got a problem with volume control with keyboard commands; when i press vol up the volume image comes up and it shows it increasing the volume bar but it doesn't actually increase the volume... is there a way i can couple that control with the master volume?
[08:38] <scizzo-> mattycoze: there is no options for that in the keyboard setup in ubuntu?
[08:38] <alex_21> What kind of keyboard is it?
[08:38] <mattycoze> scizzo i'll check
[08:39] <mattycoze> because at the moment the keyboard command is only modifying the PCM-2 volume
[08:39] <scizzo-> mattycoze: if I am not completely wrong you should be able to bind it different in those options for the keyboard but I am not 100% sure
[08:40] <mattycoze> alex_21 it's a HP Pavillion laptop dv6000 d.w i don';t think its a driver issue, the keyboard was working fine before i mucked around with something to do with alsa but i'll check the keyboard settings in a sec
[08:41] <mattycoze> scizzo nah the keyboard shortcuts were set correctly...
[08:42] <alex_21> I just wanted to see if I know of any issues with the keyboard. I too have an HP wireless keyboard, and The "A" and "Delete" keys are backwards
[08:42] <mattycoze> oh okay
[08:43] <mattycoze> i've got Pulse Audio Manager installed perhaps there'd be something in there i can tweak to get it working again
[08:46] <ptym3k> fr
[08:47] <ptym3k> francais
[08:48] <Rafik_> !fr
[08:49] <mattycoze> mmm scizzo what can i do? post on a forum?
[08:50] <chattan> 重庆电信100M共享托管4800元/年,10M独享托管5800元/年,租用700元起
[08:52] <julian_> hi can somebody help me reinstalling grub? on sudo grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/media/disk-1 /dev/sda i get the following error: The file /media/disk-1/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[08:52] <Name1411> Hello, I tried installing both Ubuntu and Kubuntu , and it will cause my router light to flash like it is in high traffic, yet I am not connected at all.  I did not have this problem with previous versions of Ubuntu or Kubuntu and it never made the router light flash like I had high traffic. And to end confusion I didn't have any downloads going, and was unable to connect to my modem, or any other "local" things along with the internet. I have a Dell Ispi
[08:54] <avatar> solution to my konsole problem (which is identical to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164635) ->  I downgraded my nvidia video driver from 177 to 173 - this needs further testing, but it seems that the problem vanished.
[08:55] <Lord`Saladin> Name1411: Sounds like a problem I had some time ago, it started randomly... try taking the ethernet cable out, restart Ubuntu, THEN put the ethernet cable back in; allow it to connect and test again. If that doesn't work, hard reset the router whilst doing the same thing, during the time you have the computer rebooting.
[08:55] <Lord`Saladin> That, at least, worked for me.
[08:55] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: Why did it just show up in the new release? I was thinking this was the time to switch.
[08:56] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: The BAM, stupid problem again
[08:56] <Name1411> Then*
[08:56] <Lord`Saladin> Name1411: I have no idea. I don't think it is an 8.10 issue - I had it in 8.04.
[08:57] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: I haven't seen it before when I installed Wubi , or the real deal
[08:57] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: Until this version
[08:57] <Lord`Saladin> Unfortunately, I never got a cause for the problem, to be honest, I just know that what you describe is EXACTLY what was happening with my machine
[08:58] <rage> Hello, is the a program that can monitor a file and output any appended information, sort of like cat filename, but it does not exit and continues to cat contents of the file as information is appended to the end?
[08:58] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: So you are saying for me to try to disconnect the cable, put it back in? reset my modem and the router?
[08:58] <Theeb> ubuntu is running fine without the video card driver, should i install the driver for maximum performance?
[08:59] <Tokimi> Hi there folks! I've got a USB CD-ROM drive that isn't recognised by my BIOS, and hence, cannot be booted from. The laptop currently has fedora on there and it recognises the USB CD-ROM drive :D How would I go about installing ubuntu whilst already in linux? My primary CD-ROM is dead, btw.
[08:59] <Lord`Saladin> Name1411: Just take the ethernet out before shutting down Ubuntu. Restart the computer. Once you have logged back into Ubuntu, put the ethernet cable back in. That should work for you.
[08:59] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: So when I go to reboot to Ubuntu right now, I should have it out.  Wait till I get to the desktop, and put it back in , see if it worked?
[09:00] <Lord`Saladin> Yes.
[09:00] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: BRB
[09:00] <Lord`Saladin> Just make sure you take the ethernet out BEFORE you reboot
[09:01] <mattycoze> would somebody mind checking out my problem on the ubuntu forums; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6311840#post6311840
[09:03] <Tokimi> Any idea?
[09:03] <ribellu06> hello everbody
[09:04] <Tokimi> Hello, ribellu06
[09:06] <ribellu06> Tokimi my english is not perfect but it is the instant to teach :) i'm french , a small autoscan question it is the best
[09:06] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: That still didn't solve the issue.
[09:06] <P_Kable> Hello. Is there a alternative to google analytics, something that I can install from the repos that can give me IPs and the works ?
[09:06] <julian_> help! reinstalling grub does give me an error that /boot/stage1 couldnt be read correclty but that file is there
[09:06] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: Maybe next release.. *sigh*
[09:08] <Name1411> Would it be possible for me to install the older version and use it safly ?
[09:08] <P_Kable> julian_=> dpkg-reconfigure grub ?
[09:08] <Name1411> Or would the security updates be updated for 7.whatever
[09:08] <User__> how can i enroll in ubuntu course?
[09:09] <potwak> how can i enroll in ubuntu course?
[09:09] <P_Kable> potwak=> what ubuntu course ?
[09:09] <loquitus_of_bor1> Is there a place to get freespace for ubuntu? I am referring to the 3d game... I heard it is free now, so to speak... but where can I download it from and install? perhaps even from source?
[09:10] <potwak> P_Kable: UCP
[09:11] <Lord`Saladin> Name1411: I don't know, in that case. Did you try rebooting your router/modem?
[09:11] <P_Kable> potwak=> http://www.canonical.com/services/training/ubuntuprofessionalcertification
[09:11] <Lord`Saladin> P_Kable: Try AWStats
[09:11] <Lord`Saladin> Or Webalizer
[09:11] <P_Kable> Lord`Saladin=> ok thanks
[09:12] <Lord`Saladin> AW is rather good.
[09:12] <potwak> P_Kable: is it available here in the philippines?
[09:12] <P_Kable> potwak=> no idea, check the link
[09:12] <Lord`Saladin> We used to supply it with the websites we provided at my old job
[09:12] <potwak> P_Kable: thanks.
[09:13] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: yes, it just twinkled again and said "connecting"
[09:13] <Lord`Saladin> Weird.
[09:13] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: roger.
[09:13] <Lord`Saladin> Though, admittedly, it DID take some time for mine to work again.
[09:14] <Lord`Saladin> Properly, at least.
[09:14] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: Are security updates still given to the earlier release? whatever LTS
[09:14] <Lord`Saladin> Yes, if you are on 8.04, you still get security updates.
[09:15] <Name1411> Lord`Saladin: So in general, I could install 8.04 without any issues ?
[09:15] <Name1411> if I so desired to anyway.
[09:15] <Lord`Saladin> Yes.
[09:16] <snek> Name1411: 8.04 is the Long Term Support version.. in a way you could say it is more reliable than installing 8.10 since it has existed longer and has longer guaranteed support/updates
[09:16] <Name1411> Would I be bothered with "there's a big bad distro update!" notices ?
[09:16] <snek> Name1411: not by default.. unless a new LTS version is released
[09:16] <Lord`Saladin> Name1411: Nope. By default, LTS versions only notify you of LTS releases
[09:16] <Lord`Saladin> Lol.
[09:17] <rvb> help please
[09:17] <Name1411> Perhaps that's an idea.
[09:17] <snek> Name1411: 8.10 is a "normal" version, and LTS will not auto update to a normal version
[09:17] <alex_21> I fixed my server problem I think. Good night. Bani Bash
[09:17] <kek> what's the most common cause of having no sound (no error messages, it's just silent)? i can't find any errors in dmesg or syslog and i've checked that the volume is up in alsamixer and gnome volume control.
[09:18] <snek> turned off speakers or unplugged jacks? :P
[09:18] <Name1411> Would I still be able to recive the newer desktops, and all that crap? Like KDE4 if I "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" ?
[09:18] <snek> Name1411: hmm it depends if it's in the repositories for hardy (8.04).. but i think there's a special KDE4 repo for hardy anyway
[09:18] <kek> snek: "but it works in windows" :)
[09:19] <Stratton> lol
[09:19] <snek> kek: hehe, just fooling around.. i can't say i have had that same problem
[09:19] <Name1411> OK.  I'll install it through Wubi before I decide if I want to install it for real.
[09:20] <Name1411> Although Wubi seems slow
[09:20] <Name1411> (NTFS?)
[09:20] <snek> name1411: wubi is only a few MB/s slower it seems.. my normal drive does about 75MB/s and in Wubi it does 68MB/s.. so not really that aparant for me
[09:21] <Name1411> Well, when I click "Not now" or something like that on FireFox, it seems to 'animate' longer
[09:21] <Name1411> when saving passwords or not
[09:23] <LoveGuru> hi, Need help with ssh .. im using Vmware and Ubuntu as guest OS, Using bridge connection, sshd running i check the process but i can't login to my server :<
[09:24] <arooni-mobile> question: is there a way on thunderbird on  ubuntu hardy ... can run in the background?  or be minimized in the tray
[09:24] <snek> i can't say i notice it, but i run Wubi on a core2duo 2.4Ghz OC'd to 3.1Ghz with 4GB ram and a 8800GT 512MB OC'd
[09:25] <Joshooa> Does anybody know why I am unable to choose a proprietary driver for my nvidia card? It tries to download but just doesn't activate at all, and every time I reboot I get errors and low graphics display
[09:25] <snek> LoveGuru: sounds like everything is setup ok.. i often use the same method and so far haven't had problems.. can you see anyting in /var/log/auth.log?
[09:25] <_inxs> hello, i updated to the latest kernel, and ubuntu is now running in low graphics mode, no driver detected, i reinstalled the nvidia driver. Still running on low resolution, cant set it higher. What am i doing wrong
[09:25] <snek> Joshooa: what nvidia card/chipset is it?
[09:25] <LoveGuru> snek: let me check
[09:26] <Joshooa> snek: It's an nvidia 7600 GS and I'm tried to use the recommended 177 driver it tells me to. I just want it to work so I can play WoW again.
[09:27] <snek> Joshooa: ok, i have a 7600GS as well, works fine so far.. you might want to check the Xorg and dmesg logs
[09:27] <snek> Joshooa: you could try using EnvyNG
[09:27] <Joshooa> snek: I'm sure it's xorg, I had 8.04 today and GLX wasn't working right, and I tried updating my driver to the one on the nvidia page which is apparently a big no no, since then it's been all messed up.
[09:28] <LoveGuru> snek:  i found one entry says " sshd[6203] Server listening on :: port 22
[09:28] <LoveGuru> " sshd[6203] Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22
[09:28] <snek> Joshooa: hmm that was not a good idea no.. you have to uninstall the official one first then (but don't ask me how)..
[09:29] <LoveGuru> im trying to connect from my windows box. using putty client
[09:29] <snek> LoveGuru: you have no firewall installed?
[09:29] <Joshooa> snek: Yeah I can't find out how to uninstall for the life of me. I am almost ready to reformat but I have gigs and gigs of music and videos I can't save first so I am kinda stuck at this point
[09:29] <potwak> i'm leaving. bye all.
[09:29] <potwak> :)
[09:29] <sloopy> snek, can you send some extra computrons over to my laptop? the 1066Mhz P3 is a little short... ;´)
[09:29] <LoveGuru> snek: no i dont have any firewall
[09:30] <_inxs> hello i updated to the new kernel and everythings messed up,graphic driver, lan driver. I booted in previous kernel, where everything worked perfectly, graphics still f*cked, how is this possible?
[09:30] <jim_p> !intel
[09:30] <snek> Joshooa: have a look at http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:30] <jim_p> !i810
[09:31] <aftertaf> quick wubi question: where are the linux files on the disk when linux installed via wubi?
[09:31] <snek> c:\wubi?
[09:32] <snek> Joshooa: envyng MIGHT uninstall the original nvidia driver for you...
[09:32] <LoveGuru> snek any ideaa?
[09:33] <snek> LoveGuru: are you connecting to a VM running on the same machine? or is the VM running on a different machine?
[09:33] <Guest55913> Hi, I'm using the WUBI version. Can I see the contents of the partition I "installed" on?
[09:33] <snek> Guest55913: yes, it's under /host/ somewhere
[09:33] <kek> man, volume controls are just too complex
[09:34] <Maveas> Shit
[09:34] <Maveas> My ethernet won't work
[09:34] <ompaul> Maveas, sudo dhclient
[09:34] <Stratton> hey voidsies
[09:34] <ompaul> !language | Maveas
[09:34] <Stratton> why is the name 'anandjones' banned?
[09:34] <Guest55913> snek, glorious, thanks
[09:34] <ompaul> Stratton, join #ubuntu-ops and ask
[09:35] <Joshooa> snek: I'll look into it thank you
[09:35] <Stratton> k
[09:35] <fghoul> hi guys! having a freaky question here
[09:36] <voidsies> hey Stratton
[09:36] <fghoul> how do i read *.doc files from console?
[09:36] <voidsies> hey Stratton
[09:36] <fghoul> is there a plugin for vim that can handle ms office format?
[09:36] <LoveGuru> snek: its a same machine.
[09:37] <Stratton> hi anandjones
[09:37] <snek> LoveGuru: maybe try switching to NAT instead of Bridged? I never run it bridged and have had no problems so far
[09:37] <LoveGuru> snek: i had NAT connection but somehow it won't working so i just switch to bridge
[09:37] <LoveGuru> ;<
[09:37] <voidsies> hey Stratton
[09:38] <etfb> How do you say "do X until the user presses a key" in bash script?
[09:38] <zeno> is there a way to cap the decibels using alsa?
[09:38] <wiehan> I need to ask a bit technical question and need a technical answer: What is the exact difference (if any) between ubuntu and xubuntu except for gnome vs. xfce and a different choice of out-of-the-box applications? Question 2: If I take ubuntu and install a very lightweight window manager such as JWM (j-window manager, or something?) would it be faster than xubuntu (or alternitavely xubuntu running the same JWM)
[09:38] <snek> LoveGuru: hmm ok, i'm at a loss then..
[09:39] <LoveGuru> snek: could ya help me with NAT? if i switch again ?
[09:39] <LoveGuru> because NAT works fine .. but i dont know somehow it work :<
[09:39] <KernalKrunK> Hi everyone.
[09:40] <subdolus> Yo, every week or so I get the following when I try 'screen' something: Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777.
[09:40] <zeno> wiehan: 1.none 2.faster, i like xmonad and fluxbox myself
[09:40] <subdolus> so every week or so I have to su and chmod it... why does this keep on happening?
[09:40] <snek> LoveGuru: maybe depends what the problem is exactly
[09:40] <zeno> wiehan: but just install ubuntu server and then install jwm or whatever if you need speed
[09:40] <snek> zeno: good point, server is a good place to start :)
[09:40] <zeno> i use fluxbox on my ps3, xmonad on my laptop
[09:40] <wiehan> zeno thanks for the answer
[09:41] <wiehan> zeno another question: what would happen If I install ubuntu-resticted-extras on xubuntu
[09:41] <snek> zeno: wow xmonad is pretty damn minimal.. looks good for my old 500mhz laptop :)
[09:41] <Syrre> hey guys .... i have a little problem .... i cant install mplayer =/ ... i get this error " mplayer: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-25 but it is not installable
[09:41] <Syrre> E: Broken packages", does anyone know what to do ?
[09:42] <zeno> wiehan: a ton of crud you dont need, just pick the packages you need from restricted extras individually.  for instance use mplayer instead of the video codecs there
[09:42] <zeno> snek: great for laptops in general, since touchpads suck
[09:43] <zeno> Syrre: fire up synaptic and find the fix broken thing
[09:43] <snek> zeno: gotta try it out, delicious'd it for the future :)
[09:44] <Syrre> zeno: iĺl try that one =P
[09:44] <LoveGuru> snek: which VMware are ya using?
[09:44] <wiehan> zeno: so mplayer (from ubuntu repositries, and NOT from medibuntu repositries) can run most-all 'restricted formats' such as mp3 and videos which does not work out of the box?
[09:44] <snek> LoveGuru: vmware fusion on a mac, and vmware workstation at home under vista64
[09:45] <zeno> snek: its easy to hack too, source is in haskell and tiny
[09:45] <LoveGuru> snek: my question is for Vmware Workstation.
[09:45] <btoogood> evening all
[09:45] <LoveGuru> snek: What did u set there in VMware tab Edit/Virtual network Editor/NAT/EDIT/ There is Gateway right there.. what should i set there?
[09:45] <wiijii> morning
[09:45] <zeno> wiehan: yes except dvds i think
[09:45] <zeno> mabye can though =p
[09:46] <Syrre> zeno: i tried it, but nothing happens =/, same error on mplayer =/ .... i have absolutely no idea what might have happened
[09:46] <penrith> hi ikonia
[09:46] <snek> LoveGuru: i'm not at home, so i can't verify the settings at the moment
[09:46] <wiijii> Guys n gals, does anyone have VirtualBox running with an Ubuntu guest?
[09:47] <LoveGuru> snek: well there is option about gateway.. and i didn't find any gateway under ifconfig eth1
[09:47] <btoogood> hey how stable is it to up grade to 8.10 through apt as stated through the wiki?
[09:47] <LoveGuru> wiijii: i m using Vmware Workstation and Ubuntu as Guest not virtual box.
[09:47] <wiijii> yeah
[09:47] <snek> LoveGuru: normally I would say your router ip... but I can't say that for a fact since i can't verify my settings at the moment
[09:47] <wiijii> I've been suggested vmware. But I have vbox all set up and ready. XP works with net on guest
[09:48] <penrith> hi
[09:48] <LoveGuru> snek: u know what i tried every single thing whatever i can reach. but .. still no luck with that
[09:48] <btoogood> penrith hi
[09:49] <penrith> hey does any know about how to downlaod  clamav
[09:49] <penrith> just trying to change  my nick
[09:49] <zeno> Syrre: try sudo dpkg --configure -a;sudo apt-get -f install
[09:49] <btoogood> penrith: use apt-get or use synaptic
[09:49] <wiehan> zeno: so mplayer (from ubuntu repositries, and NOT from medibuntu repositries) can run most-all 'restricted formats' such as mp3 and videos which does not work out of the box?
[09:50] <zeno> wiehan: yup
[09:50] <onceuponastack> penrith: do a google search for clamav sourceforge
[09:50] <zeno> wiehan: i think you need another package for dvds, and its not a super interface for music jsut okay
[09:50] <zeno> although i actually end up using it alot =p
[09:50] <btoogood> Any one here had any problems with ubuntu 8.10
[09:51] <zeno> btoogood: yes
[09:51] <wiehan> zeno: I know, but that answered my question
[09:51] <zeno> btoogood: but benefits outweigh for me
[09:51] <btoogood> zeno what you mean
[09:51] <turuburu> hi guys. anyone managed to synchronize windows mobile phone with ubuntu 8.10? if yes, how?
[09:52] <turuburu> preferably i want to synchronize contacts with kontact
[09:52] <zeno> btoogood: i dont like kde4 apps in gnome yet as much as kde3, and nm-applet misbehaves a bit
[09:52] <btoogood> zeno the only kde app i like in gnome is K3b
[09:52] <kek> how do i make gnome-terminal beep in the headphones and not in the pc speakers?
[09:52] <zeno> turuburu: 1. install virtualbox, 2. grab torrented xp cd 3. .... 4. profit!
[09:53] <Syrre> zeno: i tried it ... but i still cant install =/
[09:53] <zeno> Syrre: try ubuntu forums, post the error messages
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> zeno: i wouldnt advise undertaking illegal activities in the official ubuntu support channel
[09:53] <jim_p> does anyone play second life? i found this           http://www.byteme.org.uk/secondlife-amd64/apt-get-a-secondlife.html
[09:54] <zeno> ActionParsnip1: ok change 2 to pay 500 dollars for vista ultimate edition :)
[09:54] <LoveGuru> ahhhhaaaaaa
[09:54] <btoogood> turuburu: there are some projects out there havent triend them my self so cant tell you
[09:54] <LoveGuru> snek" ?
[09:54] <Syrre> zeno: i might have gotten it working, downloaded the package manually and installed it =P ..... took me some time to find it though
[09:54] <turuburu> zeno: i tried this, but i dont like this solution
[09:54] <Syrre> mplayer
[09:54] <turuburu> btoogood: i tried some things. it's a mess
[09:54] <Syrre> ooops
[09:54] <snek> LoveGuru: yes i'm here i just can't help you further without being at home..
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> Syrre: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[09:55] <btoogood> turuburu: yes that is why i basically gave up
[09:55] <LoveGuru> snek: due to just that wrong gateway.. my all setting messed up. and i can't access to my server.. i just change the last router digit and everything works fine now :S
[09:55] <zeno> turuburu: is it a hdd? with usb? if not then probably wont work.  concider getting a non-propriatary phone next time maybe :\
[09:55] <_inxs> hello, i installed nvidia driver, compiz works but i cant seem to set to a proper resolution(preferences screen resolution).Any ideas?
[09:55] <bazhang> !info virtualbox-ose
[09:55] <Syrre> ActionParsnip1: allready installed =P
[09:56] <turuburu> zeno: it is usb. i hope linux phones to be developed, but they are still not widespread
[09:56] <snek> LoveGuru: there is a #vmware channel, maybe try in there? i'm sure they have more experience with problems like this
[09:56] <btoogood> well got to go got early start in the morning catch you all tomorrow
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> Syrre: then run it from terminal and off you go, you may need the kernel module too, and add yourself to the vboxusers group
[09:56] <jim_p> gtg guys
[09:56] <jim_p> later
[09:56] <zeno> turuburu: is it just a ntfs partition? if so that works fine or is it some wierd driver? then your sol
[09:56] <jim_p> bye
[09:56] <LoveGuru> snek: its working now :S
[09:56] <turuburu> zeno no it's not. anyway thanks.
[09:56] <snek> LoveGuru: lol ok :)
[09:56] <zeno> turuburu: you seen the tmobile g1? its all over place
[09:57] <LoveGuru> snek: i just put wrong gateway there.. c0z 0f that everything become messup.
[09:57] <_inxs> how do i set screen resolution, appart from preferencces-screen resolution?
[09:57] <LoveGuru> snek: just becoz 0f that gateway i can't access through ssh/ftp whatever.
[09:57] <zeno> its linux+open source
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> zeno: bit offtopic, do you know if the chrome browser supports xul?
[09:57] <turuburu> i have not seen.  i have another phone. the gps applications i use and the maps, are not still for other phones except windows mobile. i ll check the mobile u told me though
[09:57] <penrith> can people hack into linux
[09:57] <snek> LoveGuru: yep that makes sense :)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> penrith: yes, just like any other OS
[09:57] <LoveGuru> snek: anyways tx. for help :)
[09:57] <zeno> ActionParsnip1: nope my wife got me one for xmas but im not supposed to know so havnt used it :)
[09:58] <snek> LoveGuru: hehe your welcome
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> zeno: nice haahaa
[09:58] <zeno> penrith: sure no system is totally secure
[09:58] <chn_boy> hi all
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> zeno: it if if it has no network conectivity
[09:58] <chn_boy> is it possible to remove all panels in desktop??
[09:59] <dekkong> Hello guys! I've got a problem I cant get any sound in Movie Player but in VLC and everything else it works
[09:59] <zeno> ActionParsnip1: call the user up and trick them into doing what you want, or just steal the machiene!
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> dekkong: 'movie player' is totem
[09:59] <dekkong> ActionParsnip1: yes.
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> dekkong: i'd check its audio settings or just use vlc
[10:00] <Sc> hi
[10:00] <chn_boy> is it possible to remove all panels in desktop??
[10:00] <zeno> dekkong: system pref sound, then select the same one for movies as normal sounds
[10:00] <zeno> same mixer*
[10:00] <dekkong> zeno: my problem is also that when i record with my microphone i cant playback it
[10:00] <QaDeS> hi there. i installed network-manager-pptp, but the vpn anel won't show up when i click on the network manager.  got Ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:00] <penrith> whats the best anti virus  programe for linux
[10:00] <zeno> chn_boy: right click on them and hit delete
[10:01] <_inxs> hello reinstalled nvidia driver, compiz works but im running in low resolution(640x480), and i cant seem to set it any higher in preferemces-screen resolution.What should i do? Somebody?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> penrith: no such thing as best
[10:01] <zeno> chn_boy: if the last one wont just turn on hiding, hide it and leave that way
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> !antivirus | penrith
[10:01] <QaDeS> penrith: i use avia and it works like a breeze
[10:01] <QaDeS> avira*
[10:01] <zeno> penrith: none anti virus is a black list which is resource hogging and ineffective
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> !best | penrith
[10:01] <zeno> penrith: the better way is good security to prevent the virii
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> zeno: its handy for mail servers and samba shares
[10:02] <zeno> ActionParsnip1: speaking of which know why when i cped a folder to a samba share its much larger there? ntfs takes more space per file or something?
[10:03] <zeno> ActionParsnip1: gmail handles spam/viruses pretty nicely
[10:03] <zeno> and now that it has imap works great for me
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> zeno: sure, but if you run your own mailserver, its very attractive
[10:04] <dekkong> zeno: you got any solutions how to fix my problem.. I think it has something to do with codes when i Cant playback something that i've recorded with my mic
[10:05] <subdolus> Yo, every week or so I get the following when I try 'screen' something: Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777.
[10:05] <subdolus> so every week or so I have to su and chmod it... why does this keep on happening?
[10:06] <blip-> hi, i have a swap partition in my extended space while ubuntu 8.04 lies on primary partitions... the OS isn't seening or using the swap partition at all.   Free shows me http://pastebin.com/d67d23f8d   .. any ideas how to fix this ?  thanks
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: you can just sudo chmod, you never need su
[10:06] <dekkong> Sound Recorder says Could not open audio device for playback.
[10:06] <zeno> dekkong: did you make sure its configured right in sounds? also open up alsamixer and enable everything that you know you dont need
[10:06] <zeno> excpet that you know...*
[10:07] <subdolus> ActionParsnip1: rofl. same thing dude. I just want to know WHY it's happening in the first place
[10:07] <_inxs> Hello, nvidia driver,compiz works,low resolution(640x480), cant set higher resolution in preferences-screen resolution.Any ideas?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: yeah but sudo is quicker and more secure
[10:08] <filipegarcia_> ActionParsnip1: and for a /dev/ttyS0 ? what should i do when i want 777 permissions ??
[10:08] <subdolus> ActionParsnip1: Do you really want to have a pissing contest about this?
[10:08] <subdolus> re: I just want to know WHY it's happening in the first  place
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: you could add the permission chane to your startup script
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: not graceful but will work
[10:09] <_inxs> Hello, nvidia driver,compiz works,low resolution(640x480), cant set higher resolution in preferences-screen resolution.Any ideas?
[10:09] <subdolus> already doing that.. ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO KNOW WHY
[10:09] <subdolus> just hush and let someone who actually knows a thing or two to answer
[10:09] <fasta> How do I map a specific key to SHIFT?
[10:09] <zeno> _inxs: edit xorg.conf
[10:09] <zeno> _inxs: make sure nvidia driver working in system admin drivers
[10:09] <_inxs> zeno:thnx
[10:10] <zeno> fasta: SHIFT them around on your keyboard!
[10:10] <zeno> really i dunno :)
[10:10] <DeFi> Hi everyone, when my pppoe connection is connected i cannot access my local network, i cannot ping any local ips etc. but when i disconnect it the network works fine again. my friend has the same problem with his ubuntu.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: was just suggesting, sheesh
[10:11] <subdolus> ActionParsnip1: if you want to be a super-hero irc tech support dude, you should start with reading the original question
[10:11] <belleke> can i use the server edition for a barebone installation?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: i did and suggested a solution
[10:11] <subdolus> anyone else have any idea why my /var/run/screen dir keeps having to be chmod'd by root?
[10:11] <fasta> zeno: do not waste the time of other people.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> subdolus: forget it
[10:12] <blip-> how can i tell ubuntu where my swap partition is ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> DeFi: does your ppoe connection use the same ip range as your lan?
[10:12] <zeno> fasta: yes master i do as you command.  would you like a fresh beverage?
[10:12] <_inxs> wining hour?
[10:12] <fasta> zeno: you made it to my ignore list.
[10:13] <zeno> OH NOES how could this have happened to me?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> blip-: you add it in /etc/fstab
[10:14] <DeFi> ActionParsnip1: No
[10:14] <DeFi> it does not
[10:14] <filipegarcia_> can anyone help me creating udev rules in ttyS0 and lp0 port????
[10:14] <DeFi> internet ips are 196 range
[10:14] <rookeeeeeeeee> could anyone tell me what download throttle is in rtorrent (ubuntu torrent program)
[10:14] <[ZAF]-Coral> ##windows
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> DeFi: ok cool
[10:14] <DeFi> my lan ip is 192
[10:15] <blip-> ActionParsnip1: it's already there but using UUID format which may have changed since i changed my partion structure.  is it ok to say something like "/dev/sda6 none swap sw 0 0" in my fstab ?
[10:15] <wiijii> Does anyone have experience setting up VirtualBox with host networking please?
[10:15] <KernalKrunK> hey do any of you guys have folding@home installed?
[10:15] <DeFi> ActionParsnip1: do you know why its doing it?
[10:15] <[ZAF]-Coral> Wow there are no people in windows :P
[10:15] <[ZAF]-Coral> Thanking the lord
[10:15] <zeno> wiijii: yes add guest additions
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> DeFi: you'll probably find that ALL data is going down the pppoe connection which wont find your router
[10:16] <chn_boy> zeno: at least one panel can't be deleted???
[10:16] <DeFi> ActionParsnip1: well how do i fix it?
[10:16] <zeno> chn_boy: im not sure, but if it cant just hide it
[10:16] <wiijii> zeno Sorry I should have been more clear. I have Ubuntu server installed on vbox inside Ubuntu desktop
[10:16] <DeFi> ActionParsnip1: it shouldnt go that by default
[10:16] <zeno> chn_boy: and never open it
[10:16] <wiijii> I want to set up static IP for the guest OS. I can't even get the eth0 or br0 bridge to appear in the guest OS though
[10:16] <wiijii> I followed the guide at ubuntu help
[10:17] <zeno> wiijii: make sure its using nat
[10:18] <DeFi> !networknotworkingwithpppoeconnected
[10:18] <wiijii> zeno I did. When I first booted it was using NAT, eth0 appeared, but there was no connectivity. Now I;'ve tried to set up host networking with a bridge, and it's all gone downhill
[10:18] <wiijii> Apparently I need host networking to accept connections in the guest OS
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> DeFi: i think you maybe need to add some routes
[10:21] <DeFi> ActionParsnip1: it shouldn't do this by default, there must be a way to fix the issue without adding routes manually
[10:21] <DeFi> :/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> DeFi: i doubt it but it will definately help. i see what you mean though, the 2 different networks being managed due to their addresses
[10:22] <DeFi> hmm
[10:22] <belleke> can i use the server edition for a barebone installation?its  on a laptop with 512mb memory and a processor of 1.6 ghz.will there be problems with the kernel i'm using wifi at home
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> belleke: should be fine with a desktop system
[10:23] <zeno> wiijii: do you have guest additions installed? btw dont use ping to test netowrk ping is broken in vbox
[10:23] <manish> i have lost my sleep button and power manager. How do i get it back
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> wiijii: set default gateway to your routers ip and dns server to 10.0.2.3
[10:24] <belleke> thx dude
[10:25] <DeFirence> ActionParsnip1, my routes look like this:
[10:25] <DeFirence> 196-209-22-1-nn *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[10:25] <DeFirence> 192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
[10:25] <penrith> i cant install clamav
[10:25] <wiijii> zeno guest additions is for XP isn't it?
[10:26] <DeFirence> and then link-local and default
[10:26] <wiijii> And I've lost my network devices now anyway, damn
[10:26] <DeFirence> what route would i need to add or change for it to work ActionParsnip1 ?
[10:26] <wiijii> what should /etc/vbox/interfaces look like? I didn't have that file originally, and now I've put the vbox/br0 entries in it
[10:27] <manish> ActionParsnip how do i get my sleep button and powermanager back
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: surely it should be 196.209.0.0 instead of 196-209-22-1-nn
[10:27] <DeFirence> thats default
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: ive not used vpn / pppoe in ubuntu
[10:27] <penrith> hey can anybody help me to install clamav
[10:27] <DeFirence> my pppoe worked fine on hardy
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: but its gonna be that kind of bag
[10:27] <Phoenix87> re
[10:27] <DeFirence> with my network
[10:27] <QaDeS> is vpn generally broken in ubuntu 8.04?
[10:27] <hs> If I ssh to 127.0.0.1 and export DISPLAY to localhost:0, shouldn't applications I run via that ssh session be ran through the local x-server?
[10:28] <DeFirence> by with intrepid now, it gives this issue :/
[10:28] <DeFirence> but*
[10:28] <bob_> I am trying to add a second Hard Drive and am having trouble. Anyone good at this sort of thing?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: intrepid is weird and wonderful
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: does it show in bios?
[10:29] <DeFirence> sigh ><
[10:29] <bob_> Not sure but it does show in "Places"
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: ok can you give us a pastebin of sudo fdisk -l
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> !info kjots
[10:29] <DeFirence> ActionParsnip1, what route would you try add in my position to access 192.168.0.*
[10:30] <penrith> hey can anybody help  me installing clamav
[10:30] <bob_> ActionParsnip: Remind me how to paste bin......
[10:30] <zaza86> #ubuntu - chat - it
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | bob_
[10:30] <zaza86> #ubuntu-chat-it
[10:30] <mikevankuik> Hi can anyone tell me where the network listener for syslog is hidden? :( I can't find it
[10:31] <selinuxium> hi all, how do I reconfigure the keyboard map in JeOS?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: i'd add one for lan saying 192.168.0.0 use ethX
[10:31] <DeFirence> ActionParsnip1, its already there...
[10:31] <DeFirence> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[10:31] <DeFirence> 196-209-22-1-nn *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[10:31] <DeFirence> 192.168.0.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: and one for 196.209.0.0 use ppp0
[10:32] <DeFirence> why ppp0?
[10:32] <DeFirence> if its lan
[10:32] <matteo_> Hi all!!! Anyone knows a 3d Graphing software for Ubuntu?? thx alot
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: ppp0 is your pppoe adapter, and 196.209 is the addressing it uses
[10:32] <DeFirence> ./3dgfx4u
[10:32] <selinuxium> matteo_: What do you want it for?
[10:32] <bob_> ActionParsnip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80784/
[10:33] <bob_>  ActionParsnip1: Is that correct?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: you need to partition sdb
[10:33] <P_Kable> ca interesse quelqu'un que je fasse un wiki SNORT pour ubuntu ? J'ai commence deja...
[10:33] <matteo_> i need it for function 3d graphing!
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: yes, your new drive is sdb, but you havent partitioned it
[10:33] <P_Kable> oopss sorry wrong chan
[10:34] <penrith> hi ices
[10:34] <icesword> hello, everybody
[10:34] <bob_>  ActionParsnip1:  I found a guide online and followed the steps but it didn't work I guess, it was command line. Maybe I should try GUI?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: you can use gparted, fdisk or cfdisk to partition it
[10:34] <penrith> hey ice how good r u on linux
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: either is fine, you could even partition in windows and format it in linux
[10:35] <bob_>  ActionParsnip1:  OK I am going to try that. I'll be back with details. Thank!!!!!!
[10:35] <icesword> penrith, err, like what
[10:35] <penrith> i trying install clamav
[10:35] <icesword> penrith, I am not good at linux at all, I just like it
[10:35] <agustin> anyone here?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?style=printable&full=1#book_part1_chap4
[10:36] <agustin> guys how i do to config conky to xp partition with this command? ${font PizzaDude Bullets:size=14}g${font} Windows XP:
[10:36] <agustin> ${fs_free /home}/${fs_size /home} $alignr${fs_bar 8,60 /home}
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: that shows how to partition with cli
[10:36] <agustin> in the /home what i must replacee¿?
[10:36] <penrith> hey i download clamav what do i need to do next
[10:36] <bob_>  ActionParsnip1: That should be helpful. Thanks again!!!!
[10:36] <icesword> penrith, excute the program
[10:36] <meganox> is it ok to format /boot to ext3 in Hardy these days?
[10:36] <agustin> any??? one?
[10:37] <penrith> why ices
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> meganox: what would you gain?
[10:38] <darryl> I'm playing with a new install of Dapper 6.06, my screen saver works ok, but when I wake up in theh morning, the box is frozen, and won't reboot into X. Running startx  at reboot locks up too. To get here now, I had to boot into safe graphics mode, recreate my user, etc... I didn't have this trouble with 5.10, ideas?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> darryl: id check dmesg
[10:38] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: ok
[10:38] <penrith> hey action do u know about clamav
[10:39] <icesword> !tab |  penrith
[10:39] <icesword> !info clamav
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> penrith: all i know is its good to get the latest source and compile or updates tend to be funny
[10:40] <Dar1us> anyone here know why sdptool browse myphone doesn't show anything at all? works OK for another BT device I have
[10:40] <meganox> ActionParsnip1: no idea ;)  I'm just reading about LVM and saw an example doing it ext3 and was wondering where i'd got my info from to do it ext2.  LVM also requires the distro set up the initrd's properly in order to put / on a LV
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> meganox: ext3 is ext2 wit a journal
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> meganox: considering /boot will be about 10mb, its not wort it
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> meganox: well, 50
[10:42] <penrith> i got all the packets in clamav i type clamav in the shell nothing happong
[10:42] <penrith> happing
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> penrith: if you type: ps -ef | grep clam you will find it running
[10:42] <icesword> penrith, sudo apt-get install clamav?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> penrith: its a service like samba
[10:44] <meganox> ActionParsnip1: what i really want to know is will I have any trouble installing Hardy from alt CD on LVM (leaving /boot outside LVM)
[10:44] <bob_>  ActionParsnip1: I'm sorry I'm back..... I installed Gparted. To start it I use Terminal? Gparted /dev/sdb1?
[10:44] <pronoy> i am unable to install the flash 10 plugin for mozilla.....can anyone please help me with that......its causing me lost of audio issues
[10:44] <penrith> ya its in there
[10:44] <bullgard4> How can I determine the URL of the Internet radio stream that I am just subscribed to?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> meganox: should be fine. just configure that partitions to have aseparate /boot and it'll be fine
[10:45] <meganox> pronoy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: its in the menus, or you can use gksudo gparted /dev/sdb
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: i believe
[10:45] <meganox> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[10:45] <xnv> bullgard4: How did you subscribe to it?
[10:45] <bob_>  ActionParsnip1: I don't see it in menu. I'll try teminal
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> !gparted | non_
[10:47] <Theeb> PCM stands for? in sound preferences
[10:47] <nik> hello
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> !pcm
[10:48] <nik> when i try to continue my torrent downloads that i started in winxp in lunux transmission says data cannot be verified. what can i do?
[10:48] <penrith> i install clamav and its telling me this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:48] <DeFirence> ActionParsnip1, i don't know what to do now ;( i cant get it working
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> Theeb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCM
[10:48] <Stooge> what program are you using for torrents nik?
[10:48] <nik> transmission
[10:49] <nik> is there a better one?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: you know as much as me, i think you are gonna have to play. maybe someone else can chip in
[10:49] <bullgard4> xnv: I googled for the name of the American radio station, found it, loaded the home page and clicked on a button there. --  And now please answer the question which I have put.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> DeFirence: or ask later
[10:49] <DeFirence> hmm ok :/
[10:49] <DeFirence> thanks anyway :)
[10:49] <Stooge> bit torrent utorrent Flash get..
[10:49] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: no clues in dmesg
[10:49] <xnv> bullgard4: I can't. That's not enough information.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> darryl: then read all the logs you can find
[10:50] <penrith> i install clamav and its telling me this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:50] <nik> it says data not fully available
[10:50] <penrith> what have i done wrong
[10:50] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: ok
[10:50] <xnv> bullgard4: There might be several ways. You might be able to get it from your web browser by going back to the page. You might be able to get it from the program that's playing the station, depending on the program.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> penrith: then run sudo freshclam
[10:51] <nik> can anyone answer me?
[10:51] <Theeb> ActionParsnip1, the question should i use it to control the volume or not lol, the PCM
[10:52] <Breakdown> hi peoples
[10:52] <meganox> Theeb: PCM is like Wav sound volume control in Windows
[10:53] <meganox> Theeb: so most system generated sounds
[10:53] <xnv> nik: Does Tranmission even run in XP?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> xnv: gone
[10:53] <chfwiggum> nik: so u started a download in xp and tried to continue it in linux?
[10:53] <penrith>  i try that sudo freshclam
[10:53] <startmeup> what is latest transmission version?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> chfwiggum: gone
[10:53] <startmeup> synaptic is showing 1.06
[10:53] <chfwiggum> :(
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> !info transmission | startmeup
[10:53] <Theeb> meganox, should should i keep it on max? and control the other
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> startmeup: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:54] <startmeup> i have all repos enabled, still it won't show up
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> Theeb: slightly off max, for quality
[10:54] <meganox> Theeb: i keep PCM on max usually and set the volume control to master
[10:55] <wiehan> If I install a VERY light window manager on ubuntu such as xnomad or jwm, and still use gnome applications, such as gnome-games, would that be defeating the whole point of switching to a light window manager, because running a gnome game will place the gnome libraries in memory and will result in no real speed increase???
[10:56] <RAIHAN> sfdjnsdf
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: The graphics will be lighter for your desktop apps and so the desktop will be snappier
[10:57] <bob_> ActionParsnip:OK Got Gparted working but it's not working. I keep getting errors. It does say that the drive is "Unallocated"?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: not sure about gnome games
[10:57] <Theeb> ok i have no idea why when i press the mute shortcut on my keyboard it does it twice mute and unmute at once
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: id use the gentoo guide to add partitions but use sizes you like
[10:58] <|MUSE|> they are two openvz kernels that you can use for ubuntu, but in the repos there seems to already be one. Anyone experienced with vz on ubuntu and can tell me which I ﻿should use?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: sudo cfdisk /dev/<whatever>
[10:58] <RAIHAN> xzm
[10:59] <[c0re]> !lalala
[10:59] <|MUSE|> I am guessing there are no ops around..
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> |MUSE|: why do you need an op?
[11:00] <zaza86> salve a tutti
[11:00] <wiehan> ActionParsnip1: well, any gnome app for arguments sake; and what do you mean the graphics will be lighter - I want the trechincal answer, wouldn't opening a gnome application cause that the gnome libraries will be loaded into the RAM (and especially on a very old computer, with very little RAM - that would be a problem), or am I misunderstanding something? Let me ask this subjectively as well: will there be a bug speed increase running gome
[11:00] <wiehan> apps under a lightweight window manger as opposed to under gnome itself?
[11:00] <|MUSE|> I dont need one
[11:00] <bazhang> |MUSE|, what is the issue
[11:00] <bob_> ActionParsnip: what is cfdisk telling me?
[11:00] <meganox> wiehan: only the required functions are loaded into ram, not the entire library
[11:01] <_jason> |MUSE|: why?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: if the game needs gnome apps then yes they will be loaded, but they are loaded if you run ANY gnome app if you think about it
[11:01] <|MUSE|> I was just taking a guess, cause first ﻿RAIHAN was spamming, then ﻿[c0re]..
[11:01] <wiehan> meganox: So there will be a big speed increase on old computers?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: you use cfdisk to partition drives
[11:01] <meganox> you will have more ram available for apps becasue the desktop won't be using as much, even if they are gnome apps you are running
[11:02] <meganox> how much ram have you got, wiehan?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: i think you are mixing window manager with desktop environment
[11:02] <wiehan> ActionParsnip1: Well, forget about gnome games, take any gnome app for arguments sake
[11:02] <RAIHAN> lasdj
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: if you run any DE with a lightweight WM, the desktop itself will be snappier as their is less eye candy
[11:03] <bob_> ActionParsnip:OK, time for me to RTFM. Thanks for the help. I better read alittle so I understand better. Thanks again! It's great you take the time to help.
[11:03] <bazhang> RAIHAN, please dont
[11:03] <wiehan> meganox: this is for a someone else's old 700mhz pentium 3 laptop (don;t know the exact amount of ram)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: any app you run from the DE will need the libs to run so will be loaded regardless
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> bob_: np man
[11:03] <meganox> wiehan: i would try Xubuntu then
[11:03] <msata> Hello all, I have installed ubuntu intrepid fresh install on a vmware box, my problem is that the mouse pointer behaves very strange. When I move the mouse, the pointer that I see, moves a different distance than the one in ubuntu. I checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf to compare with my old one from my 8.04 box, and I found it's nearly empty and lacking the InputDevice section. How can I solve this, was this file moved?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: meganox suggestion of running xubuntu uses a lighter desktop environment than gnome but you cna still run metacity on to of it if you want
[11:04] <wiehan> meganox: Well, I only have ubuntu 8.10 32bit, so I don't want to download xubuntu, I was planning on installing ubuntu and just downloading jwm or xnomad
[11:04] <meganox> wiehan: well as ActionParsnip1 says it will be snappier
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: i'd install ubuntu then use fluxbox for lightness
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: but you will have all the gnome apps you like
[11:05] <RAIHAN> oihsdkj
[11:05] <wiehan> ActionParsnip1: Why fluxbox instead of jwm or xnomad
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: i personally use kde + fluxbox
[11:05] <meganox> wiehan: the main restricion will be on how many apps you can run, not whether they are gnome apps or not
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: personal preference, if you prefer those then use them
[11:05] <internetz> hi, i cannot use hddtemp without sudo.. anyidea?
[11:05] <meganox> make sure you make a big enough swap
[11:06] <wiehan> ActionParsnip1: So my idea of taking ubuntu and using a lighter WM has some merit to it? Will it be worthwhile on this old laptop?
[11:06] <meganox> wiehan: you can't install on less than 384MB ram with the desktop cd anyway, you need the alternate cd for that
[11:06] <meganox> wiehan: yes
[11:07] <RAIHAN> qodwiakklj
[11:07] <internetz> meganox, the alternate cd has gnome?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> wiehan: absolutely, the desktop will be more responsive due to less graphical fluff
[11:07] <meganox> internetz: yes, it just uses a text-based installer
[11:07] <wiehan> ActionParsnip1 & meganox: thanks
[11:08] <internetz> oh ok
[11:08] <meganox> wiehan: np
[11:08] <meganox> internetz: also if you want LVM or encrypted partitions you need alternate
[11:08] <msata> anyone had the same problem? even heard of it?
[11:09] <KernalKrunK> could  anyone tell me how to find out if folding@home is running on my laptop
[11:09] <meganox> msata: i don't know about your problem, but ubu is moving away from having to alter xorg.conf at all, so much information you see about fixes is out of date
[11:09] <internetz> why i need sudo to access /dev/sda using hddtemp?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> msata: hal now handles mouse stuff (muh to my dissappointment)
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> msata: id check mouse settings in gnome
[11:10] <meganox> KernalKrunK: ps aux | grep fold
[11:12] <icewaterman> anyone running ubuntu 64-bit?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> icewaterman: yep
[11:12] <msata> meganox: what can we alter now? isn't somewhere some additional, or equivalent file? what are my options for configuring that, besides mouse settings in gnome? should I ask somewhere?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> icewaterman: well, kubuntu
[11:12] <[c0re]> --(17:12:Fri,05 Dec 08:$)-- hddtemp /dev/sda
[11:12] <icewaterman> i'd like to know whether the openoffice in the amd64 is indeed 32bit or 64bit
[11:12] <[c0re]> /dev/sda: Permission denied
[11:12] <KernalKrunK> meganox: Im new to linux and im not really sure what is shown is trying to tell me
[11:13] <wiijii> Anyone setup VirtualBox with host networking for Ubuntu guesT?
[11:13] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip1: should be the same openoffice version.
[11:13] <lianimator> GoogleEarth keeps crashing on me.. the first time was okay. but not after that.. "Google Earth has caught signal 11." was the error
[11:13] <deadlylife> Hello there
[11:13] <incepator> Hello
[11:13] <deadlylife> I recently deleted my /var/lib/dpkg directory, what should I do?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> icewaterman: you could run the file command against the app you run
[11:13] <victamower>  I have 5.1 speakers into an intel-hda (alc885) on board sound card, sound out of the rear speakers is very quiet
[11:14] <chfwiggum> KernalKrunK: did u try ps aux in console?
[11:14] <victamower> barely audible, all the volume sliders are turned right up in alsamixer
[11:14] <AndyB> I am currently running xp on internal drive, i have ubuntu installed on usb drive, but my bios doesnt boot from usb. could someone offer advice on how to set up GRUB so i can boot ubuntu?
[11:14] <victamower> any suggestions?
[11:14] <chfwiggum> KernalKrunK: sry, got it already :)
[11:14] <Lusule> hi there, i'm trying to make a xubuntu usb pen using the usb creator, but when it tries to boot i get GRUB error 17
[11:14] <Lusule> anyone know what it is and how i can fix it?
[11:15] <|MUSE|> ﻿victamower: I have the same problem, however I compensate with an amplifier. :P
[11:15] <meganox> KernalKrunK: type "ps aux | grep fold" into a terminal window (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal)
[11:15] <AndyB> Lusule, i believe that error is when there is trouble mounting the selected drive
[11:15] <tv_boy> good day to all of you. im just new to ubuntu and im just wondering if i can run my webcam into my box
[11:15] <victamower> muse: strangely it used to work under Hardy
[11:16] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: no clues in the message, syslog, or Xorg logs. But they are all time stamped today, and may have missed the "event"?
[11:16] <wiijii> victamower obvious question maybe, but with mine, I have a front/rear fader to change relative volume for front/rear speakers....
[11:16] <deadlylife> Does anyone know what to do if I deleted /var/lib/dpkg?
[11:16] <|MUSE|> ﻿victamower: well I am actually using hardy
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> AndyB: http://4peeps.com/ivb/index.php?showtopic=1995
[11:16] <victamower> muse: did you manage to narrow down the problem?  kernel driver?
[11:16] <Lusule> AndyB: do you know how i can debug it?
[11:16] <wiijii> AndyB did you get everything sorted?
[11:16] <victamower> wiijii: where's that slider?
[11:16] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip1: i know but i havent got 64-bit version installed
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> darryl: wait til it reoccurs then read them immediately
[11:16] <victamower> Hardy used to lock up like a motherbitch
[11:16] <wiijii> victamower Sorry it's a hardware mixer, like a volume knob
[11:16] <|MUSE|> ﻿victamower: I eventually decide it was the intel sound card
[11:16] <victamower> would've loved to have stuck with it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> icewaterman: 64bit version of what?
[11:17] <victamower> wiijii: this is just onboard sound
[11:17] <KernalKrunK> kk i have and i got:
[11:17] <KernalKrunK> psyclone@psyclone-laptop:~$ ps aux | grep fold
[11:17] <KernalKrunK> psyclone 19042  0.0  0.0  26852   776 ?        Sl   04:06   0:00 /home/psyclone/folding/fah6
[11:17] <KernalKrunK> psyclone 19053  0.0  0.0  26852   780 ?        Sl   04:06   0:00 /home/psyclone/folding/fah6
[11:17] <KernalKrunK> psyclone 19404  0.0  0.0   3240   816 pts/1    S+   04:11   0:00 grep fold
[11:17] <wiijii> victamower That's why it's a bit of an obvious suggestion, I'm sure you've checked that if it's there
[11:17] <FloodBot2> KernalKrunK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <meganox> msata: i truly do not know.
[11:17] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip1: i do not have 64-bit ubuntu installed
[11:17] <AndyB> Lusule, Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[11:17] <icewaterman> so i cannot tell whether openoffice is actually 64-bit or not
[11:17] <AndyB> ActionParsnip1, Thanks
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> icewaterman: then the openoffice you have installed will definately be 32bit
[11:17] <meganox> msata: it's one reason I'm going back to hardy
[11:17] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip1: grrrm
[11:17] <AndyB> wiijii, Hi again =] Just got home now, Going to try intsall grub from within windows
[11:17] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip1: i want to know whether on 64-bit ubuntu openoffice is 64-bit or 32-bit
[11:18] <KernalKrunK> sorry bout the flood i tried to send it in one message
[11:18] <meganox> KernalKrunK: then it is running
[11:18] <chfwiggum> KernalKrunK: there u see it. it's running - twice :)
[11:18] <victamower> haven't had this much pain and misery with sound since the 90s
[11:18] <wiijii> AndyB Hehe, good luck mate. Give us a shout if you need a hand. Hope your exam went OK
[11:18] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: It only happens in the middle of the night, when I'm sleeping.
[11:18] <eth01> kernal = kernel
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> icewaterman: the default is 64bit, but you can install32bit
[11:18] <deadlylife> Hello, what can be done about a missing /var/libl/dpgk?
[11:18] <AndyB> wiijii, Thanks =] Yeah it went well :)
[11:18] <Lusule> AndyB: i looked at that but i don't get those options on my mobo
[11:18] <lianimator> What is "resource 11"?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> darryl: you ay have to stake it out
[11:18] <AndyB> Lusule, Neither do i, Just reading http://www.3till7.net/2007/10/25/grub-error-17/ at the moment
[11:19] <xnv> Someone is claiming that when they ssh to an 8.10 machine, the known_hosts file is not stored in /root/.ssh/known_hosts ... can anyone confirm this and maybe tell me where it's actually being stored?
[11:19] <Lusule> AndyB: oooh i hadn't managed to find that one i'll have a look at it, thanks
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: in what conext?
[11:19] <msata> meganox, and all, tnx for the help. I'll research that a bit more. Logs seem ok though.
[11:19] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: ok!  Let me try and find some older logs with nano.
[11:19] <|MUSE|> ﻿xnv: that is wrong
[11:20] <PeskyJ> in 8.10 I want to allow another user to capture DV from 1394 - that "User Privilege" is checked for the user but /dev/raw1394 is group "disk" and the user isn't in that group - why is ithis?
[11:20] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: do you have multiple packe applcations running?
[11:20] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: and googleearth said "caught signal 11".. wondering if they are the same "11".
[11:20] <KernalKrunK> is there anyway that i can stop one of the two fah's that are running and then see how much my  computer   has folded into a work unit
[11:20] <petur_> hey! I have a problem, the icons in "Places" doesnt come out right, it still uses the old icon set of gnome
[11:20] <petur_> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skrmbild1fy6.png
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: if you try to install something and have synaptic open, it wont fly
[11:21] <ANTY> hi
[11:21] <petur_> thats what it looks like
[11:21] <tv_boy> anyone please tell me the requirements to run my webcam. what are the things to consider before intalling?
[11:21] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: yes, I know why it said cannot lock.. I'm updating and trying to install something
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: not possible
[11:21] <ActionParsnip1> lianimator: wait for the update to complete, this will free the resource, you can then install your other thing
[11:21] <lianimator> ActionParsnip1: I was thinking it might be the same 11 that googleearth crashed on... maybe not then
[11:21] <AndyB> wiijii, Hmm having no luck with this from windows side, going to write a new ubuntu live cd and run the grub install command from there.
[11:22] <hansen> is dk.archive.ubuntu.com down currently?
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> lianimator: Sig11 is a fairly common signal type which could occur for all sorts of reasons
[11:22] <|MUSE|> ﻿xnv: wait, I am not sure that is right. I ssh from a user account and mine is in ~/.ssh/
[11:22] <wiijii> AndyB How d'you mean? You made the boot CD and it doesn't boot?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> AndyB: you could always put a small /boot partition on the internal drive
[11:22] <meganox> deadlylife: /var/lib/dpkg is completely gone with no backup?  i would think that was a very bad situation
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> lianimator: check out http://www.cs.pitt.edu/~alanjawi/cs449/code/shell/UnixSignals.htm  for a full list by the way :)
[11:22] <eth01> hansen: it would certainly seem to be case
[11:22] <PeskyJ> does user privileges simply add/remove users from groups or does it do other things too?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> AndyB: then you could add the config there to boot the usb
[11:22] <wiijii> ActionParsnip1 How would you add the /boot to the existing XP partition?
[11:22] <lianimator> SlimeyPete: how do you keep the link near you? I'm sure you didn't get it off your head. :)
[11:23] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: No old logs to check :(
[11:23] <SlimeyPete> lianimator: I did a quick google ;)
[11:23] <hansen> eth01: any idea why and for how long? and how I can install packages from elsewhere in the mean time :)
[11:23] <lianimator> SlimeyPete: ah, I see.. :D
[11:23] <deadlylife> meganox: Yeps, it is, after using Arch for about four months I forgot where the apt-get lock file is. Is it possible that you could send me yours and let me just change it around a bit?
[11:23] <SlimeyPete> lianimator: basically sig11 is sort of like Windows' "General Protection Fault"
[11:23] <lianimator> SlimeyPete: googleearth has segmentation fault.....
[11:23] <RnR> guys my ubuntu is running slow
[11:24] <darryl> I'm playing with a new install of Dapper 6.06, my screen saver works ok, but when I wake up in theh morning, the box is frozen, and won't reboot into X. Running startx  at reboot locks up too. To get here now, I had to boot into safe graphics mode, recreate my user, etc... I didn't have this trouble with 5.10, ideas?
[11:24] <RnR> i have p4 3.06 processor 1.5gb ddr ram
[11:24] <SlimeyPete> yeah, that means it's trying to access a piece of memory which it's not allowed to access. It's usually caused by a bug in the application code.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: are you fully updated and do you have video drivers installed?
[11:24] <|MUSE|> what peoples thoughts about apparmor? I have had several people now tell me just to remove it.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: has it always been slow? if not what has changed before it became slow
[11:24] <AndyB> wiijii, I made the boot cd but it takes about 5 mins to load and just gives me a command line interface
[11:24] <Dar1us>  /leave #ubuntu
[11:24] <RnR> no just now installed
[11:25] <AndyB> ActionParsnip1, I was thinking about that but im not all up for partitioning my internal drive, thats why im using the external
[11:25] <meganox> deadlylife: i'm not sure that would work, /var/lib/dpkg/status contains the status file for your system, and cannot be rebuilt, according to google
[11:25] <PeskyJ> which user privilege in the user admin dialog is it to get "disk" access?
[11:25] <RnR> update package showing about 266.6mb
[11:25] <RnR> to be downloaded
[11:25] <RnR> wat can i do
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: get fully updated then come back if its still bad
[11:26] <wiijii> AndyB that's what the boot disk is for. I think you then need to run grub-install again
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: use: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:26] <darryl> ActionParsnip1: If I rebooted into Grub recovery mode, ran startx, the error should appear in the Xorg log right?
[11:26] <deadlylife> meganox: Is there anything I can do?
[11:26] <RnR> can update only graphics driver
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> darryl: i guess, try it
[11:27] <RnR> or i want to fully update
[11:27] <AndyB> wiijii, Ah i thought the boot disk would allow me to boot into the USB because my BIOS doesnt support usb booting. I can just install grub again
[11:27] <RnR> what is the shortcut for gnome terninal
[11:27] <petur_> hey! I have a problem, the icons in "Places" doesnt come out right, it still uses the old icon set of gnome
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: fully update, you may need graphics drivers installing / configuring if desktop is slow
[11:27] <petur_> http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skrmbild1fy6.png
[11:27] <petur_> thats what it looks like
[11:27] <zzlyzq> gnome-terminal
[11:28] <RnR> where can i download graphics driver
[11:28] <meganox> deadlylife: i'm no expert, personally i'd find it easier to reinstall
[11:28] <RnR> for intel chipset
[11:28] <wiijii> AndyB the disk may well allow you to boot the USB drive, but you don't need to, you just need grub back to the way you had it before
[11:28] <meganox> deadlylife: i mean, for me it would be quicker than looking for an answer
[11:29] <deadlylife> Reinstall Ubuntu?
[11:29] <deadlylife> meganox: Shouldn't there be a default on the CD I can copy?
[11:29] <meganox> deadlylife: i mean for ME i'd find it easier than trying to fix dpkg
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: run: lspci | grep -i vga and it will show you your card
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: you can then websearch from there
[11:29] <Kejo> Yawry!
[11:29] <meganox> deadlylife: hang on, found a link
[11:29] <AndyB> wiijii, Indeed, so ill just get this live cd burned then run "grub-install /dev/sda"    (or is it sda1?)
[11:30] <RnR> thanks action
[11:30] <wiijii> AndyB I think it's sda
[11:30] <meganox> deadlylife: http://mm.bbspals.org/linux/lost-var-lib-dpkg-on-debian/
[11:30] <wiijii> /dev/sda
[11:30] <AndyB> wiijii, thanks
[11:30] <RnR> lspci | grep -i vga
[11:30] <RnR> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: in terminal
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> !terminal | RnR
[11:30] <RnR> yuo
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> RnR: ok so now you need to find out how t set one of those up in ubuntu
[11:31] <deadlylife> meganox: gracias
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> i gotta split
[11:31] <Split> :D
[11:31] <meganox> deadlylife: de nada
[11:32] <RnR> lspci | grep -i vga can u explain this command for me
[11:32] <RnR> ActionParsnip1	
[11:34] <RnR> 	lspci | grep -i vga will anybody explain this command for
[11:34] <chfwiggum> RnR: this lists your pci and displays all with vga
[11:34] <bimberi> RnR: it tells you what videocard you have.  You can then start searching for information on using that card with linux/ubuntu
[11:34] <RnR> no i need
[11:35] <RnR> lspci
[11:35] <RnR> what is grep
[11:35] <RnR> what is lspci
[11:35] <chfwiggum> man grep in terminal
[11:35] <RnR> ok
[11:35] <shamus> hello there
[11:35] <zzlyzq> grep is a command that will search infromation
[11:35] <RnR> oh
[11:35] <stdiopt> filter*
[11:35] <zzlyzq> yeah stdiopt said it
[11:36] <shamus> anyone free for chat?
[11:36] <chfwiggum> !anyone
[11:36] <GColley> Example of grep: ls -l | grep *.txt
[11:36] <shamus> i am not interested in help
[11:36] <stdiopt> grep *.txt
[11:37] <shamus> i just want to chat
[11:37] <shamus> :)
[11:37] <stdiopt> not so righbt
[11:37] <GColley> It will list any file with the .txt extension
[11:37] <stdiopt> grep txt (will filter any line that contains "txt")
[11:37] <elkbuntu> shamus, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for that
[11:37] <RnR> oh
[11:37] <shamus> thank you :)
[11:37] <RnR> thanks mate
[11:38] <RnR> ubuntu uses bash shell
[11:38] <stdiopt> there is grep variants or flags like regex matcher
[11:38] <RnR> is that right??
[11:38] <GColley> stdiopt, I meant any file ending in ".txt" I.e. text files..
[11:38] <stdiopt> egrep .*txt
[11:38] <vegombrei> hi .. how do i delete the entire library in music player and update it from the source music folder ?
[11:38] <stdiopt> hum
[11:39] <stdiopt> GColley yes but i think grep don't work like that
[11:39] <RnR> what is the best music player for ubuntu & feature rich
[11:39] <|MUSE|> does 'System >> Administration >> Software sources' edit sources.list?
[11:39] <GColley> RnR: Ubuntu uses many shells
[11:40] <GColley> It uses the bash shell by default
[11:40] <RnR> is bash shell is like cmd prompt
[11:40] <bimberi> |MUSE|: yes
[11:40] <bimberi> RnR: yes
[11:40] <GColley> RnR: Not exactly, the cmd prompt uses batch
[11:40] <RnR> ok tell me a good mp3 player
[11:40] <zzlyzq> gnome-mplayer
[11:41] <chfwiggum> rhythmbox amarok
[11:41] <ubuntoRoxx> hello. What application should i use to communicate with people using msn messenger. I am using ubuntu
[11:41] <RnR> yeah i know that G Colley
[11:41] <stdiopt> ubuntoRoxx u got pingdin or amsn, or emesene
[11:41] <GColley> ubuntoRoxx: Pidgin :D
[11:41] <zzlyzq> i think it is good
[11:41] <RnR> G colley
[11:41] <bimberi> ubuntoRoxx: pidgin (installed by default at Applications -> Internet)
[11:41] <stdiopt> pidgin* sry lol
[11:41] <|MUSE|> ﻿vegombrei: I assume you are talking about rhythmbox? Edit >> Preferences >> music, then change the music directory, delete all your playlists, restart the player
[11:41] <zzlyzq> Is there a irc client it the terminal?
[11:42] <stdiopt> like irssi
[11:42] <stdiopt> does ubuntu have it default?
[11:42] <stdiopt> zzlyzq irssi*
[11:42] <GColley> zzlyzq: No, I don't think so
[11:42] <bimberi> stdiopt: no
[11:42] <RnR> did fedora and ubuntu are Somewhat similar??
[11:42] <GColley> zzlyzq: Get X Chat from the package manager
[11:43] <stdiopt> nor in packages?
[11:43] <GColley> RnR: Fedora isn't really like Ubuntu under the hood. Ubuntu far more similar to debian
[11:43] <stdiopt> apt-get install irssi or something?
[11:43] <meganox> irssi is available in repos
[11:43] <zzlyzq> yeah i am already using xcaht
[11:43] <bimberi> stdiopt: yes it's installable from the repos
[11:43] <meganox> stdiopt: yes sudo apt-get install irssi
[11:43] <bimberi> !info irssi
[11:44] <meganox> RnR: Fedora is based on Red Hat
[11:44] <test> hey
[11:44] <zzlyzq> how is the command if i want to say somebody in the irc client>?
[11:44] <stdiopt> well i was awsering him heh
[11:44] <zzlyzq> i am a bird
[11:44] <stdiopt> i'm just not used to ubuntu
[11:44] <meganox> zzlyzq: /msg
[11:44] <zzlyzq> ^_^
[11:44] <meganox> zzlyzq: i.e. /msg zzlyzq hello
[11:44] <zzlyzq> pretty good
[11:45] <stdiopt> u got "windows" or tabs also in terminal
[11:45] <stdiopt> that u can swap
[11:45] <GColley> meganox: Is that like a piss-take of Megan Fox, or is that actually your name? Lol
[11:45] <meganox> GColley: my real name is Megan Knox
[11:45] <chfwiggum> lol
[11:45] <meganox> GColley: nah not really
[11:46] <GColley> I think someone should port Colloquy to Ubuntu :D
[11:46] <GColley> I love my mac, but I also love Ubuntu
[11:46] <GColley> I want the best of both worlds <3
[11:46] <blip-> hi, i'm having trouble disabling ftp and telnet services on an ubuntu 8.04 server.... i'm trying some google commands but they don't work
[11:46] <test> test27 : hey
[11:46] <meganox> zzlyzq: also /query starts a private chat, like typing /msg <nick> in front of everything
[11:46] <blip-> i tried "chkconfig telnet off"
[11:47] <GColley> I'm so hungry
[11:47] <meganox> blip-: sudo /etc/init.d/telnet stop?
[11:47] <zzlyzq> get some food?
[11:47] <stdiopt> that sounds temporary
[11:48] <zzlyzq> like hamberge
[11:48] <zzlyzq> how is the command if i want change my nick name
[11:48] <blip-> meganox: nope there isn't a command like that.
[11:48] <GColley> Technically it uses the Bourne Again Shell
[11:48] <test27> :D
[11:48] <nooga> is there a fast way to find file's path from inode number?
[11:48] <stdiopt> type exacly how is command to quit in irssi?
[11:49] <wiehan> this is ubuntu related, as I need to do this correctly before installing ubuntu - I am a n00b, so please help: I want to create a backup with Norton Ghost of a HD onto a external HD which has a fat32 partition, will ghost automatically create the .gho files so that it will not exceed FAT32's stupid 4gb file limit?
[11:49] <ompaul> stdiopt, /quit (fail)
[11:49] <stdiopt> :p
[11:49] <stdiopt> without my nick on it lol
[11:49] <ompaul> stdiopt, not funny
[11:49] <GColley> wiehan: Yes, it should
[11:49] <ubuntoRoxx> how do i check which JDK version is installed on the system?
[11:50] <meganox> nooga: find -inum
[11:50] <stdiopt> /quit sometimes
[11:50] <meganox> nooga: sry, find / -num NUM to search the entire filesystem
[11:50] <nooga> meganox: but it displays many unnecessary lines
[11:50] <bimberi> ubuntoRoxx: java -version
[11:50] <KernalKrunK> How do you go from gnome to kde?
[11:50] <chfwiggum> ubuntoRoxx: apt-cache policy jdk
[11:50] <nooga> meganox: i need it for a shell script
[11:50] <test27> hey guys... how to install open office3 on intrepid?
[11:51] <wiehan> GColley: Wihtout changing any settings (cause I looked everywhere and can't seem to find the place where I can split the files tp 4gb max) - I think this is possible through a command line interface.. So you are sure it would work without me touching a single setting?
[11:51] <DJones> test27: You will need to add the ppa for OO3 and then you can install it
[11:51] <stdiopt> hey i'm wondering
[11:51] <stdiopt> why my ubuntu wont install kde4?
[11:51] <test27> ok... where i can get it?
[11:52] <stdiopt> as it says that isn't prepared for my machine or something?
[11:52] <ubuntoRoxx> chfwiggum: I get "Unable to locate package jdk"
[11:52] <meganox> nooga: are the extra lines errors?
[11:52] <HymnToLife> stdiopt: exact error message please
[11:52] <DJones> test27: give me a sec, I'll find the link for you
[11:52] <chfwiggum> ubuntoRoxx: then try it with java
[11:52] <ubuntoRoxx> chfwiggum: Can i get newest JDK using the synaptic packet manager?
[11:52] <stdiopt> hum i'm on win right now
[11:52] <test27> ok..
[11:52] <ubuntoRoxx> chfwiggum: java gives same result
[11:53] <chfwiggum> ubuntoRoxx: i dont have java installed
[11:53] <GColley> wiehan: Are you trying to back-up just the partition or the entire drive?
[11:53] <stdiopt> i got on some packages saying that package can't be installed cause they don't support it or my machine(386)
[11:53] <ubuntoRoxx> chfwiggum: the jdk should ship with ubuntu right?
[11:53] <chfwiggum> yep
[11:53] <chfwiggum> but not sure if its latest
[11:53] <test27> DJones :do you know why the oo3 doesnt included on intrepid default package?
[11:53] <icesword> ubuntoRoxx, lol
[11:53] <ubuntoRoxx> chfwiggum: Hmmm but how do i find out where it is?
[11:53] <ardchoille> ubuntulog: sun-java6-jdk is in multiverse
[11:54] <bimberi> ubuntoRoxx: it's not installed by default
[11:54] <ubuntoRoxx> icesword: lol ?
[11:54] <ubuntoRoxx> bimberi: ahhh right okay....but it can be obtained using the packet manager?
[11:54] <icesword> ubuntoRoxx, nothing
[11:54] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: sun-java6-jdk is in multiverse
[11:54] <terryx> hey there guys
[11:55] <DJones> test27: This looks like the link with instructions http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[11:55] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: multiverse?
[11:55] <bimberi> ubuntoRoxx: yes, see ardchoille's post :)
[11:55] <terryx> i have a question that is ubuntu need an anti-virus or not?
[11:55] <LOL> Hello
[11:55] <HymnToLife> !av | terryx
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> terryx: no, not really, unless you want to scan files which you are sharing with Windows machines.
[11:55] <Guest56423> Do they like manga?
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> though it doesn't hurt to install one.
[11:55] <HymnToLife> in other words, for most uses, no, you won't
[11:55] <Guest56423> OMGGGG
[11:55] <Guest56423> lololollololoo
[11:55] <Guest56423> lolololo
[11:55] <test27> DJones : thanks ya... ;)
[11:55] <Guest56423> lolol
[11:56] <FloodBot2> Guest56423: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:56] <Guest56423> lost of love XD
[11:56] <DJones> test27: I think because the final release of oo3 was made after the intrepid release candidates were finalised, so they had to stay with the previous version
[11:56] <stdiopt> hey u can paste a page full of "lol"'s
[11:56] <stdiopt> lol
[11:58] <AndyB> im using InfraRecord to burn the install disk, What speed should i select?
[11:58] <nnull> guys theres some command i haveto use from time to time to fix compiz with my old nvidia card, anyone know the one im talking about? (im gunna copy it this time)
[11:58] <lianimator> I don't remember how I installed google earth, but I cannot find it in synaptics.. I want to uninstall it, but how?
[11:59] <jak-o> hi anyone with an acer aspire one?
[11:59] <Zoffix> monitor?
[11:59] <ardchoille> lianimator: apt-cache search -n googleearth
[11:59] <ubuntoRoxx> what is the difference between jdk-6u11-linux-i586-rpm.bin and  jdk-6u11-linux-i586.bin ?
[11:59] <DJones> !earth | lianimator
[11:59] <stdiopt> ubuntoRoxx one says -rpm
[11:59] <PeskyJ> ok, for some reason /dev/raw1394 gets created with group set to "disk" instead of "video" when I plug in my video camera - how can I change it?
[11:59] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: the difference is we don't use rpm packages
[11:59] <stdiopt> and got rpm format
[12:00] <stdiopt> other don't
[12:00] <ubuntoRoxx> stdiopt: what is an rpm package?
[12:00] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: java jdk is in the repos, you need to enable multiverse and then install i8t
[12:00] <stdiopt> redhat packet manager
[12:00] <Zoffix> ubuntoRoxx, RedHat/Fedora and several other distros use that package format
[12:00] <stdiopt> or something like that
[12:00] <lianimator> ardchoille: it gave me googleearth-package which in synaptics is not installed.
[12:00] <ubuntoRoxx> Zoffix: ahhh i see
[12:00] <ardchoille> lianimator: how did you install it to begin with?
[12:01] <lianimator> DJones: I want to UNinstall it.. do I need the installer for it?
[12:01] <ubuntoRoxx> how do i enable multiverse and then install i8t ?
[12:01] <lianimator> ardchoille: I forgot how..
[12:01] <chandru_in> Hi all
[12:01] <darryl> I'm playing with a new install of Dapper 6.06, my screen saver works ok, but when I wake up in theh morning, the box is frozen, and won't reboot into X. Running startx  at reboot locks up too. To get here now, I had to boot into safe graphics mode, recreate my user, etc... I didn't have this trouble with 5.10, ideas?
[12:01] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: and what is multiverse?
[12:01] <DJones> lianimator: Oh sorry, i misread your post, I thought you were looking to install it
[12:01] <Zoffix> !multiverse > ubuntoRoxx
[12:01] <PeskyJ> darrend: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:01] <chandru_in> When I get into guest session, the human theme is not used.  It was fine a month back I remember.  Was there any known update which broke it?
[12:02] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: run System > Administration > Sofware sources and then look in the first tab
[12:02] <PeskyJ> darryl: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:02] <NicEXE> I have just connected my webcam. What do I have to do to make it work?
[12:02] <PeskyJ> darrend: oops, wrong name :)
[12:02] <darryl> PeskyJ: Why would I want to do that?
[12:02] <lianimator> ardchoille: I have the GoogleEarth installer for linux though.. I might have used that. how do I uninstall with this?
[12:02] <ardchoille> lianimator: No idea, I don't install anything outside the repos for just this reason :)
[12:03] <Zoffix> :)
[12:03] <lianimator> ardchoille: alright
[12:03] <PeskyJ> darryl to get a supported version? I dunno
[12:03] <Zoffix> lianimator, why do you want to uninstall it in the first place?
[12:03] <lianimator> Zoffix: it keeps crashed after initialization
[12:03] <chandru_in> does anyone else here experience the same problem?
[12:03] <stdiopt> ardchoille nothing bad with it, unless u don't know how to mess with those kind of specific packages
[12:03] <lianimator> Zoffix: *crashinig..
[12:03] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: Yes i am in the first tab...what should i see there? Everything is checked
[12:03] <Zoffix> lianimator, at this point I'd do a file search and manually rm the files/dirs
[12:03] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: once you enable multiverse, you need to do: sudo apt-get update
[12:03] <darryl> PeskyJ: 6.06h is still supported, thanks.
[12:04] <NicEXE> I have just connected my webcam. What do I have to do to make it work?
[12:04] <ardchoille> stdiopt: bad about what?
[12:04] <lianimator> Zoffix: I have the installer, there probably is an uninstall command..
[12:04] <stdiopt> installing things outside the repos
[12:04] <Zoffix> *shrug8
[12:04] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: are you on 8.10?
[12:04] <lianimator> Zoffix: I just need to find it
[12:04] <ardchoille> stdiopt: true, but I've always found everything I need in the repos
[12:04] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: i think so...not to sure though. how do i check?
[12:04] <stdiopt> indeed
[12:05] <PeskyJ> darryl: why use such an old version?
[12:05] <chandru_in> any help for me?
[12:05] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: open a terminal and run: lsb_release -a
[12:05] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: i think i am on 8.04
[12:05] <darryl> PeskyJ: I have old hardware.
[12:05] <PeskyJ> darryl: wouldn't newer software work better, even on old hardware?
[12:05] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: yes 8.04.1, codename hardy
[12:06] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: ok, is multiverse enabled?
[12:06] <stdiopt> PeskyJ sometimes not
[12:07] <stdiopt> sometimes older version doesn't require so much mem for installing or running
[12:07] <darryl> PeskyJ: I don't know, but I'm familar with 6.06, so I'd like to solve this problem, before upgrading to 8.04.
[12:07] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: Should i be able to see in the tab if multiverse is enabled?
[12:07] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: yes, one of those lines will have (multiverse) at the end
[12:07] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: ahh yes it is enabled
[12:08] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: ok, open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get update
[12:09] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: and what are you needing java for?
[12:09] <lianimator> how do I manually delete a menu item?
[12:09] <Sinister> whats a lite desktop environment ?
[12:10] <stdiopt> lianimator u probably need to edit some ugly file
[12:10] <ardchoille> Sinister: fluxbox, openbox, blackbox, windowmaker, etc
[12:10] <stdiopt> wich one i not figured out yet
[12:10] <ubuntoRoxx> it writes a lot, and then in the end E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:10] <stdiopt> gnome stuff :s
[12:10] <terryx> ok thanx, can anyone tell me about encryption in ubuntu
[12:10] <ubuntoRoxx> and also E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:10] <jrib> lianimator: just right click on the ubuntu icon -> edit menu
[12:10] <lianimator> stdiopt: I should probably uncheck the item in "main menu"
[12:10] <ardchoille> ubuntoil: close any other package manager you have open and try again
[12:10] <stdiopt> lianimator that doesn't sound manually as u requested :)
[12:10] <chfwiggum> ubuntoRoxx: close synaptic
[12:11] <lianimator> jrib: oh, I can actually delete it also
[12:11] <stdiopt> but probably thats the best way
[12:11] <uffo> what iswrong with ubuntu 8.10 nvidia 177.82 driver, my 8200 laptop display is soooo slow that pages fades and generally slow reaction
[12:11] <PeskyJ> terryx: if you want an encrypted directory, install cryptkeeper it does it all for you
[12:11] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: yes got it..ok now it was successful
[12:11] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: and what are you needing java for?
[12:11] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: Need to do some programming
[12:11] <lianimator> stdiopt: sorry, I meant, more manually than if the uninstaller had done it for you. ;)
[12:11] <PeskyJ> terryx: or are you trying to do something else?
[12:11] <shazel> hi
[12:11] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: i am just completely new in linux
[12:12] <ardchoille> ubuntoil: ok, open a terminal and do: apt-cache search -n sun-java | grep jdk
[12:12] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: I'm not sure which version is in Hardy so we'll grep it :)
[12:12] <Cecilia> hola hay alguien que quisa hablar conmigo en espanol?
[12:12] <ardchoille> !es | Cecilia
[12:13] <Cecilia> gracias
[12:13] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: yes...it gives me 2 hits
[12:13] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: java5 and java6 ?
[12:13] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: yes indeed
[12:13] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[12:13] <guestguestnew> zup
[12:14] <guestguestnew> i like ubuntu
[12:14] <lianimator> does anyone use earth3d? how is it compared to google earth?
[12:14] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: awesome its fetching now :)
[12:14] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: Cool :)
[12:14] <frapzzt> hi how can i remove all rhythmbox config files and dirs?
[12:15] <terryx> PeskyJ:  what about inbuilt encryption program?
[12:15] <sabrievrie8> hi
[12:15] <Ashgadgets> hello
[12:15] <Ashgadgets> i can use some help
[12:16] <Ashgadgets> my apt-get is broken
[12:16] <bakarat> what is the easiest way to install tora with oracle support?
[12:16] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: :S it seems to have stopped at 8%
[12:16] <ardchoille> Ashgadgets: Would help if you could describe the sysmptoms and any error messages you get
[12:17] <wiwin_> @yahoo.com
[12:17] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: stopped or waiting?
[12:17] <Ashgadgets> ardchoille: Segmentation fault
[12:17] <tv_boy> exit
[12:17] <PeskyJ> terryx: what do you want to achieve?
[12:17] <darryl> How do I switch users in a terminal?
[12:17] <terryx> hey PeskyJ what is between graphic apparature size and ubuntu
[12:17] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: well it is waiting i guess...nothing happens
[12:17] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: ahhh oki...its going again now :D
[12:17] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: let it run, apt is pretty good
[12:17] <ardchoille> :)
[12:17] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: yes...thx. dude...youre a friend
[12:18] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: yw
[12:18] <terryx> no achieve just new to ubuntu
[12:18] <Neaai> darryl: if you're connecting from tty1 then to login as another user, get tty2 with alt-f2 and login there.
[12:18] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: im gonna get ecplise afterwards
[12:18] <ubuntoRoxx> eclipse
[12:18] <terryx> PeskyJ: just new, so asking general question
[12:18] <ardchoille> !info eclipse
[12:18] <uffo> what iswrong with ubuntu 8.10 nvidia 177.82 driver, my 8200 laptop display is soooo slow that pages fades and generally slow reaction.
[12:19] <Ashgadgets> ardchoille: any help?
[12:19] <ardchoille> ubuntulog: ok, eclipse is in the universe repo, make sure that's enabled too
[12:19] <darryl> Neaai: I'm in recovery mode, so that logs in Ubuntu.
[12:19] <terryx> PeskyJ: where are temproary files?
[12:19] <lianimator> how do I install google earth without medibuntu repos?
[12:19] <ardchoille> Ashgadgets: I've never seen a seg fault so can't help :(
[12:19] <Neaai> darryl: and what about tty3 or tty4 ?
[12:20] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: i think its all enabled
[12:20] <terryx> PeskyJ: i want 1048x860 resolution, its just 800x600 max.
[12:20] <terryx> PeskyJ: how can i increase that
[12:20] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: any litterature you recommend to learn about common used linux commands?
[12:20] <stdiopt> unix bible?
[12:20] <ardchoille> !terminal | ubuntoRoxx yes :)
[12:20] <Neaai> ubuntoRoxx: do a google search for "rute.pdf"
[12:21] <terryx> i want 1048x860 resolution, its just 800x600 max, can anyone help me?
[12:21] <darryl> Neaai: Same thing.
[12:21] <ardchoille> !resolution | terryx
[12:22] <stdiopt> whatta?
[12:22] <PeskyJ> terryx: by installing the correct graphics driver for your card
[12:22] <Neaai> darryl: can't you try to use  "sudo su - otherusername" to achive the login as another user ?
[12:22] <stdiopt> to restart X we need to sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart?
[12:22] <stdiopt> how about ctrl+alt+backspace?
[12:22] <terryx> i have nvdiafx5500
[12:22] <terryx> its auto installed
[12:22] <terryx> so what i do
[12:22] <darryl> Neaai: Let me try that.
[12:22] <terryx> ?
[12:23] <ardchoille> stdin: ctrl+alt+backspace is a dirty way of doing it, better with sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[12:23] <ardchoille> stdin: be advised that will also kill xchat if you're using xchat
[12:24] <PeskyJ> How can I get the latest version of Q DVD Author - the version that comes with add/remove is 1.02 and the latest version is 1.6?
[12:24] <terryx> when i goto system-admin-nvdia seeting
[12:24] <terryx> thre is an option os resolution
[12:24] <stdiopt> huum
[12:24] <terryx> there is an option of resolution
[12:25] <stdiopt> whats the ? stand for?
[12:25] <stdiopt> g?
[12:25] <terryx> i set it to what i want but when i restart my computer its come default again
[12:25] <snek> for you ppl who want to try the new KDE4.2: http://hehe2.net/linux-general/try-kde-42-now-in-ubuntu/
[12:25] <ardchoille> gdm if you're using gnome dm or kdm if you're using kde dm
[12:25] <darryl> Neaai: That switches me from Ubuntu to Root, I want to use Darryl.
[12:25] <bzrk> or xdm
[12:25] <markvandenborre> I'm trying to restore a backed up evolution
[12:25] <ardchoille> bzil: ah, thank you, yes
[12:25] <markvandenborre> I have a problem when restoring the address books
[12:25] <ardchoille> bzil: ^^
[12:25] <markvandenborre> it only seems to restore one address book
[12:26] <ardchoille> bitten by tab completion twice in a row :)
[12:26] <markvandenborre> the one that resides in .evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db
[12:26] <markvandenborre> the other ones are ignored
[12:26] <terryx> hellllllllooooooooo
[12:26] <Neaai> darryl: then try to do it as:  su - darryl"  if the desired username is darryl
[12:26] <ziroday> fire
[12:26] <Neaai> darryl:  su - darryl
[12:26] <[e]Lement> I never understood why they use evolution and not Thunderbird...
[12:26] <[e]Lement> =X
[12:26] <darryl> Neaai: Ok.
[12:26] <stdiopt> probably that restart gives a kill to X and manager
[12:27] <stdiopt> wich is not so diferent than ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:27] <ardchoille> [e]Lement: evolution integrates mjuch better into other aspects of the desktop than thunderbird is able
[12:27] <[e]Lement> Ah
[12:27] <[e]Lement> Good to know
[12:27] <stdiopt> killing X, if software is well coded( wich i'm not sure) when loses connection to X should do proper unitialization
[12:27] <guest6294> hey, I completed an ubuntu install on a laptop, and I have no routing table present, can anyone help me set it up?
[12:28] <howtoo> does somebody know what the video output: "default" is in vlc?
[12:28] <ardchoille> stdin: with ctrl+alt+bckspc, nothing is saved if it needs to be saved, using init.d takes care of that
[12:28] <terryx> and where is task manager
[12:28] <terryx> ?
[12:28] <jrib> terryx: why?
[12:28] <darryl> Neaai: sudo su - darryl worked, thanks.
[12:28] <terryx> jrib: sound is coming from my speakers but everything is closed
[12:28] <jrib> darryl: no need for sudo...
[12:28] <[e]Lement> everyone needs a little kill -9 in their lives...
[12:28] <terryx> jrib: what i do now?
[12:29] <jrib> terryx: system -> administration -> system monitor
[12:29] <stdiopt> roger :P
[12:29] <darryl> jrib: roger that.
[12:29] <willy> helo
[12:29] <guest6294> hey, I completed an ubuntu alternate install on a laptop and chose not to configure the network at that time, when I boot into the OS I have no routing table present, can anyone help me out a little setting it up?
[12:29] <Neaai> darryl: no probl
[12:30] <[e]Lement> Well, time for class.
[12:30] <darryl> I'm playing with a new install of Dapper 6.06, my screen saver works ok, but when I wake up in theh morning, the box is frozen, and won't reboot into X. Running startx  at reboot locks up too. To get here now, I had to boot into safe graphics mode, recreate my user, etc... I didn't have this trouble with 5.10, ideas?
[12:31] <Neaai> guest6294: have you setup ip addresses for the interfaces?
[12:31] <NicEXE> how can I revert VLC to it's normal interface (not skinned) if the current skin has no preferences menu?
[12:31] <ardchoille> darryl: If that is a new install, you might consider installing 8.04 because 6.06 will end life in a few months
[12:32] <terryx> jrib: thanx
[12:32] <terryx> bye guys and thanx for ur help
[12:32] <stdiopt> i installed my ubuntu with an hammer lol
[12:32] <darryl> ardchoille: roger that, and that is my plan, but I can't get 8.04 until 6.06 is working.
[12:33] <ardchoille> darryl: ah, ok
[12:33] <stdiopt> i just had a 7.04 installation, and a 8.10 iso, so i kind of created fs by hand and unpacked base system into it
[12:33] <ronny> hi
[12:33] <stdiopt> so i guess i got a full 8.10 i hope
[12:33] <ronny> anyone knows how to rerun the generator for grubs's menu.lst
[12:33] <ardchoille> stdiopt: That was the hard way to do it :)
[12:33] <DJones> !grub | ronny
[12:33] <ronny> i changed the template for generating boot entries, and want to regenerate the config file
[12:33] <stdiopt> i didn't had empty cd's
[12:34] <stdiopt> to burn
[12:34] <ardchoille> stdiopt: oh, your way works, it's just the long way around. And it's good to see someone who actually knew how to do it that way
[12:34] <apereira> oi
[12:34] <paul68> hi I have a external hard drive and I see that I don't see all the files that have been stored there partially because I have moved files under root and my own name what do I need to do to make sure that I can see everything ?
[12:35] <stdiopt> i was wondering about setup (wich in some distros are made in install) but ubuntu took care of that
[12:35] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: okay it finished downloading....now a Lcense agreement(EULA) has appeared taking up the space of the entire terminal....(I can scroll up and down using arrow keys) In the end it says <Ok>, but i dont know how to invoke the ok-function so that I may return to the terminal. Any ideas?
[12:35] <stdiopt> keyboard hardware, modules are kind of detected on run time not on install
[12:35] <jrib> paul68: filesystem?
[12:35] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: just use the tab key to get to the "ok" button and hit the enter key
[12:35] <paul68> jrib: under ubuntu
[12:35] <stdiopt> i'm used to other kind of dists like slack or arch
[12:36] <ardchoille> stdiopt: I figured as much :)
[12:36] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: right yes
[12:36] <stdiopt> ubuntu seems too easy and afterall pleasent :)
[12:36] <wiijii> Anyone set up ubuntu server as a guest OS in vmware?
[12:36] <jrib> paul68: what filesystem is the partition for your external drive formatted to?
[12:36] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: allright...it seems to be working now
[12:36] <ubuntoRoxx> ls
[12:36] <wiijii> AndyB Did you get it sorted?
[12:36] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: so I wonder where it was installed
[12:37] <paul68> jrib: how do I check this since I just bought it and used it never formatted it in any way
[12:37] <jrib> paul68: 'mount'
[12:37] <stdiopt> i got probs with fglrx tho
[12:37] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: no idea, I don't even know what it is. Read that page that ubottu sent you about terminal commands
[12:37] <ardchoille> !terminal > ubuntoRoxx
[12:38] <stdiopt> sometimes X freeze hard :|
[12:38] <oluckyman> hi anybody! how do I perform execute sh-script when system startup ?
[12:38] <jrib> !startup > oluckyman
[12:38] <paul68> jrib: the drive is mounted and I can see it when I use df -h but don't know what filesystem is used
[12:38] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: ahhh okay hehehhee
[12:39] <AndyB> wiijii, not yet still working on it
[12:39] <jrib> paul68: paste the line that corresponds to your drive when you run 'mount'
[12:39] <magic_ninja> hello.  when i try to do a net install the installer doesn't detect my usb cable modem, is there a way to add drivers or such to get it to detect my cable modem (using the small net install file)
[12:39] <paul68> jrib: so I type in console mount /dev/sdb1
[12:39] <hermanon> hi,how to install grub when installing ubuntu?
[12:39] <jrib> paul68: just 'mount'
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> hermanon: its part of the process
[12:40] <ardchoille> hermanon: the ubuntu install will do that for you
[12:40] <ubuntoRoxx> ardchoille: so about installing eclipse, i should check universal is enabled?
[12:41] <paul68> jrib: /dev/sdb1 on /media/My Book type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[12:41] <ardchoille> ubuntoRoxx: you can search the repos by name: apt-cache search -n eclipse
[12:41] <Neaai> paul68: it's a windows style fs
[12:41] <guest6294> how come a distro like ubuntu has a shitty network manager and absolutely crap wireless support?
[12:41] <jrib> paul68: you should be able to see everything assuming your using the first account you created.  Can you give an example of something that fails?
[12:42] <jrib> guest6294: do you have an actual support question?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: its fine, just takes some config
[12:42] <guest6294> jrib, yeah, I asked I asked I asked, nothing!
[12:42] <jrib> !patience | guest6294
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: companys like broadcom refuse to support linux and their chips are used lots in notebooks
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: if you shop smart instead of cheap you can build a system that is very linux compliant
[12:43] <ereg> year year hip te hop hop ta klo
[12:43] <paul68> jrib: well if I attach de drive directly to my computer I Can see everything what I added however when I attach this drive to the server I see only the things I added as root
[12:43] <hermanon> ardchoille:it tells me installing grub on hd0 failed btw i have winxp on c: and i still want it
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: there are also millions of network configuration applications so yuo are not forced to use the stock one thats installed by default
[12:43] <ereg> year year hip te hop hop ta klo
[12:43] <ereg> year year hip te hop hop ta klo
[12:43] <ereg> year year hip te hop hop ta klo
[12:43] <FloodBot2> ereg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <shiMMer> my etterape not work.got this error=Error getting device: no suitable device found
[12:43] <ikonia> ereg: this is a support channel, please try to keep
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: or you can manually edit the network config by hand\
[12:44] <jrib> paul68: well how is it getting mounted on the server?  Did you paste the 'mount' line from the server?
[12:44] <vegombrei> i ..i need help ..i have bluetooth headphones .. ubuntu finds it but doesnt send sound to it .. how do i make it work >?
[12:44] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: I have a Broadcom, it works fine with an ealryer ubuntu distro, my trouble is that I did not chose to configure the network at setup time, and now I have no routing table, I manually added the network config by hand, but it does not work (no syntax error also) and the network manager is dead, not working
[12:44] <paul68> jrib: no its the mountline from my laptop
[12:44] <ardchoille> hermanon: I'm afraid I don't know enough about grub to help with that
[12:45] <Ashgadgets> jrib: my apt-get problem is noT YET solved! :(
[12:45] <jrib> paul68: right, you have mount options there that lets your user see everything
[12:45] <jrib> !vfat > paul68
[12:45] <Neaai> paul68: it's a matter of how the drive is mounted. From the line above, it's mounted as uid=1000 while I suppose on the other system it's mounted as uid=0
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: then if you know the driver for your broadcom is fine, rename your interfaces file and you can try configuring agin. you could try wifi-radar
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: broadcom are in general best avoided
[12:46] <shiMMer> my etterape not work.got this error=Error getting device: no suitable device found
[12:46] <vegombrei> i ..i need help ..i have bluetooth headphones .. ubuntu finds it but doesnt send sound to it .. how do i make it work >?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: if you use wpa you will need to download and install the wpa supplicant
[12:46] <mylarry> Hi! Does apt-cache show a_package shows info only of already installed packages or of any packages (available for ubuntu)??
[12:46] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: well, thats what my laptop came with, a cheap acer aspire 5315, I have wpa and wpa supplicant allready installed and confirmed working on an earlier distro
[12:47] <paul68> Neaai: ok I understand I'm going to reinstall my ubuntu if I store data on it now will I be safe to retreive that data or is that impossible?
[12:47] <stdiopt> does anyone know how to solve amdpcsdb prob? as in when i chance in catalyst like the saturation of tv, the next X initalization gives an Blank screen (driver freezes),
[12:47] <pnglb> My visual login screen only displays a quarter of the viewport (the rest is beyond the edges of my physical screen), but everything goes back to normal after I login. I looked at xorg.conf but I am quite a newbie and nothing seemed obviously wrong...
[12:47] <ardchoille> mylarry: apt-cache search/show can be used for any package in the repos
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75677.html
[12:47] <cousin_luigi> hello
[12:47] <hermanon> ActionParsnip1:it tells me installing grub on hd0 failed btw i have winxp on c: and i still want it
[12:47] <cousin_luigi> is jetty part of the default ubuntu installation
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: have you used ndiswrapper?
[12:47] <jrib> Ashgadgets: come across this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/80216-apt-get-segmentation-fault.html ?  Might be smarter to mv instead of rm though
[12:48] <ddddoomed> whateva you do don't go Alt+f2 and type 'free the fish'
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> hermanon: you may need to instal it outside th einstaller.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> hermanon: try this
[12:48] <ubuntu_fan> hi everybody
[12:48] <Neaai> paul68: if you store data anywhere, you will be able to retreive them, unless the drive fails or you remove them.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | hermanon
[12:48] <ardchoille> ddddoomed: please don't do that
[12:48] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: my main problem is that I have no routing table on my laptop, I think maybe that is why it refuses to connect to the wireless router
[12:48] <paul68> Neaai: ok thanks
[12:49] <ddddoomed> ok
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: then flush the table could be one answer
[12:49] <paul68> Neaai: is chmod an option or is it not?
[12:49] <pnglb> (in other words I have a problem which modifies the resolution _only_ for the login screen)
[12:49] <ddddoomed> but could someone tell me how to close it?
[12:49] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: flush something that does not exist? :)
[12:49] <Neaai> paul68: it's just a matter that both your systems use slightly different 'mount' options. Which you can always override and access all you have in your disk.
[12:49] <ubuntu_fan> i just need some help on web designin in ubuntu
[12:49] <stdiopt> pngla i think after login gnome loads some resolution setup
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: if its corrupted, the output will be blank, by flushing it we know its empty and can be repopulated
[12:49] <ubuntu_fan> any program that is equivalent to macromedia
[12:50] <hermanon> thanks
[12:50] <stdiopt> i think resolution on gdm is xorg.conf based
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntu_fan: macomedia is a company
[12:50] <ubuntu_fan> oh sorry that app
[12:50] <paul68> Neaai: what is the way to override it then
[12:50] <Neaai> paul68: you don't need chmod in this case.
[12:50] <ubuntu_fan> hehe can't remember
[12:50] <ardchoille> ubuntu_fan: flash in your browser?
[12:50] <mylarry> How can i get a list of all packages already installed via apt-get? Something like: apt-something show --only-already-installed :)
[12:50] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: how do I flush it?
[12:50] <Ashgadgets> jrib: that didnt help
[12:51] <guest6294> mylarry, try apt-cache
[12:51] <ubuntu_fan> nope web desingin s/w
[12:51] <DJones> ddddoomed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=499761
[12:51] <ubuntu_fan> im finding for one
[12:51] <shiMMer> my etterape not work.got this error=Error getting device: no suitable device found
[12:51] <jrib> Ashgadgets: you removed *.bin in /var/cache/apt/ ?
[12:51] <Ashgadgets> jrib: indeed
[12:51] <_kinch> hi
[12:51] <jrib> Ashgadgets: and then ran 'sudo apt-get update'?
[12:51] <mylarry> oh i thought apt-cache would be for all pachages in repos?!?!?
[12:51] <ardchoille> mylarry: Something like this?  sudo dpkg --get-selections > /path/selectionfile
[12:52] <ubuntu_fan> im finding a software like dreamweaver
[12:52] <nikolka> ahoj
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: route del something>
[12:52] <ubuntu_fan> which is floss.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: man route
[12:52] <ksbalaji> I get GPG error: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ECDCAD72428D7C01. How to get the public key?
[12:52] <ddddoomed> DJones: thanx
[12:52] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: I already did that :/
[12:52] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: its empty
[12:52] <ubuntu_fan> i hate to go for proprietary s/w
[12:52] <nikolka> deutsch ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: then add one that points all traffic down your wifi interface
[12:53] <ronny> ok, does anyone know how to regenerate the entries in grubs menu.lst if i screwed up a update-grub?
[12:53] <Neaai> paul68: can you tell me the situation again? Basically you put some files in the drive, then you can't see these files in another system ?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | ronny
[12:53] <paul68> Neaai: thats correct
[12:53] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: that's the problem I dont know how
[12:54] <yao_ziyuan> Murrine + X-Colors should be ubuntu's default theme.
[12:54] <paul68> Neaai: one system is my server ubuntu 8.04 and my laptop uses 8.10
[12:54] <ksbalaji> While updating, I get this GPG error: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ECDCAD72428D7C01. How to get the public key?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: http://linux.die.net/man/8/route
[12:54] <Neaai> paul68: in both cases, after you plug the drive, pay attention to the output of "mount"  and especially the "uid=xxx" bit.
[12:54] <yao_ziyuan> Murrine is 3rd or 4th of gnome-looks.org's Highest Rated gtk2 theme
[12:54] <Neaai> paul68: that's what you'll have to override
[12:55] <yao_ziyuan> the 1st and 2nd are Vista and MacOSX mockups
[12:55] <yao_ziyuan> fedora already took Nodoka
[12:55] <paul68> Neaai: ok and how do I do that?
[12:55] <hermanon> ActionParsnip1:when i install ubuntu should i mark the windows partition as /boot?
[12:55] <ksbalaji> !GPG
[12:55] <yao_ziyuan> does anyone feel ubuntu's default theme burns one's eyes after a long-time use?
[12:55] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: I know the syntax, I dont know the logic, my wifi is eth1 and my gateway is 192.168.5.1, but the destination?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> hermanon: no, the linux system is the boot disk, you will need to add an option to boot windows
[12:55] <ksbalaji> !NO_PUBKEY ECDCAD72428D7C01
[12:55] <yao_ziyuan> that's supposed to be used outdoors, in the sunlight
[12:56] <jrib> ksbalaji: are you using ddebs.ubuntu.com for some reason?  Also, there's no need to repeat so quickly
[12:56] <ardchoille> yao_ziyuan: Do you have an actual support question?
[12:56] <Neaai> paul68: you put the files while in 8.10 and then want to get them in the 8.04 system?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: route add default gw 192.168.5.1
[12:56] <paul68> Neaai: well the goal is that I can access them from my 8.10 while the drive is attached to my 8.04
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: you'll need sudo for it
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: its all there, all you gotta do is read
[12:57] <ubuntu_fan> hey ubottu can you help me
[12:57] <Neaai> paul68: over the network you mean
[12:57] <Neaai> ?
[12:57] <ksbalaji> jrib, thanks for responding. I think I use ddebs.ubuntu.com (though I do not know why!) Sorry if I am found anxious.
[12:57] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[12:57] <ardchoille> !bot | ubuntu_fan
[12:57] <Rudolf> hey dudes, yesterday i've upgraded openssh-server but, happen a seg falt during installation, now i can't use ssh connection
[12:57] <jrib> ksbalaji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash import the key as described there then
[12:57] <Rudolf> what can i do?
[12:57] <ubuntu_fan> oh sorry ubottu
[12:57] <ksbalaji> jrib thanks and bye.
[12:57] <paul68> Neaai: correct
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: could be possibbly why you think 'the support sucks'
[12:58] <stefg> Hi, does anyone know a minimal install for 8.04.1-lpia, i.e. a Dell mini 9. I'll use them as thin cleints so i need a radically stripped down install. I have the repos, but no intaller
[12:58] <Neaai> paul68: now this changes the landscape a bit. How do you currently try to access them?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> ubuntu_fan: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:58] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: no, not really, just look at the complaints people have in the forum unanswered about network manager and wireless
[12:58] <atb101010> can someone recommend an ecommerce retail site for ubuntu linux compatible hardware?
[12:58] <paul68> Neaai: at this point the drive is directly attached to my laptop
[12:59] <hermanon> ActionParsnip1:ok,i clicked the advanced button (in the ready to install tab) the default is hd0,i have one sata hard,the first part is for windows the second is for inux so what should i set grub to boot from?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: yep, then look at the answers
[12:59] <zoopster> stefg: you want Ubuntu Netbook Remix - UNR
[12:59] <PeskyJ> what is the channel for development?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: most wifi can be dealt with with ndiswrapper. if people bought smart then the companys wouldnt get revenue from the OSS community
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> hermanon: im not sure but the grub guide should help you
[13:00] <eltese> PeskyJ : #ubuntu-dev I think =)
[13:00] <Neaai> paul68: you have gui in both systems ?
[13:00] <zoopster> PeskyJ: for Ubuntu Desktop?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> hermanon: ive never setup dual boot as i have no need for windows
[13:00] <|MUSE|> ﻿ubuntu_fan: ubottu is a bot
[13:01] <ubuntu_fan> ok MUSE
[13:01] <hermanon> ActionParsnip1:thankz
[13:01] <stefg> zoopster: yes and no... i want the equivalent of a netinst .iso. i need complete control over what is installed, b/c i only need X, firefox  and rdesktop AND NOTHING ELSE
[13:01] <ubuntu_fan> does anyone know about amaya
[13:01] <paul68> Neaai: even when I access as root or as my username the drive I don't see what I expect to see no only terminal on the server
[13:01] <PeskyJ> zoopster: yeah
[13:01] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: is it so hard to write drivers for the broadcom? im no expert but if you don have the source, can't you poke the hardware addresses or something?
[13:01] <ubuntu_fan> i'm just doin a search on cool opensource apps for web designing
[13:02] <JoaoRodrigues> hello all
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: yes as they wont surrender how it works or anything like that, read round it. its very frustrating
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: there are even teams who offer to make the drivers for free if they are given various biits of info
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: but broadcom flat refuse
[13:02] <JoaoRodrigues> I have a weird error 22 on grub after I wrongfully booted my recovery partition :x now I can't restore grub back. any idea?
[13:02] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: what do they loose if they do this?
[13:02] <JoaoRodrigues> (recovery partition = vista)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: http://www.petitiononline.com/bcmdrive/petition.html
[13:03] <zoopster> PeskyJ: #Ubuntu-devel
[13:04] <zoopster> stefg: you can use the ubuntu alternate installer cd...that will give you control
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: http://fixunix.com/linux/540809-news-broadcom-offering-linux-drivers-some-its-chips.html
[13:04] <PeskyJ> zoopster: I went in there.. it says in the topic not for app development... do you know what's a good channel to discuss starting a new GUI project?
[13:04] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me get my server to emaill cron's output to a real email address rather than the local account?
[13:04] <paul68> Neaai: what are the odds that when I reinstall ubuntu the uid that is now at 1000 is changed when I reconnect the drive to my laptop?
[13:05] <deltaray> Anyone else running VirtualBox on 64-bit 8.10?  For some reason, when I start it up, it crashes gconf.
[13:05] <Neaai> paul68: I feel slightly confused as I am unclear which system mounts the drive under which username and what are the files that are missing.
[13:05] <paul68> Neaai: can we continue in private?
[13:05] <guest6294> ActionParsnip1: adding my gateway gives me SIOCADDRT: No such process error
[13:05] <zoopster> PeskyJ: depends on what you are trying to accomplish - a new gui like fluxbox vs gnome you probably need to create a new channel - there is no "gui" channel
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> guest6294: ive seen that around the plac, have a websearch
[13:06] <Neaai> paul68: uid 1000 is by convention the first user added. While the uid will be 1000 at anycase, the name of tha user can differ, but still the first user id will be in most cases if not in all, uid=1000
[13:06] <zoopster> PeskyJ: for ubuntu irc channels simply do a search on ubuntu irc channels...there are several pages that list most of the ubuntu- channels
[13:06] <Neaai> paul68: let's see in private what's the situation for you.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> deltaray: run virtualbox from terminal, you my get smart outputs
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> PeskyJ: theres #fluxbox
[13:07] <deltaray> ActionParsnip1, good idea
[13:08] <zoopster> anyone have a macbook pro v3,1 running 8.10 successfully?
[13:08] <werehouse> ALOW
[13:08] <deltaray> ActionParsnip1, didn't yield anything.
[13:08] <zoopster> or macbook pro v3,1 with wireless working in 8.04?
[13:08] <PeskyJ> zoopster: ActionParsnip1: I didn't mean a windows manager GUI, I just want to write an application that uses a GUI and want to figure out what window libraries to use
[13:08] <deltaray> I'll have to logout first
[13:08] <JoaoRodrigues> Error 22 on grub anyone? Kind of tied up in here...
[13:08] <blunderbomb> hi gang! is there a live cd that will assist in booting what would normaly be an unbootable device?
[13:09] <zoopster> PeskyJ: for gnome?
[13:09] <JoaoRodrigues> my ubuntu partition will not be recognized by anythin I throw at it :x
[13:09] <PeskyJ> zoopster: I want it to be as portable as possible so that it works in gnome or whatever else people use
[13:09] <blunderbomb> can i make a cd that tells my flash drive too boot?
[13:10] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: may be trouble is in HDD?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> PeskyJ: i'd contact some dev teams for tips
[13:10] <JoaoRodrigues> doubt it
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> PeskyJ: oic
[13:10] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, my fdisk shows weird stuff
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> PeskyJ: python is good at that
[13:10] <daniele> .
[13:11] <JoaoRodrigues> where it would show ext3 (my stuff) it shows: W95 Ext'd
[13:11] <zoopster> PeskyJ: so maybe gtk based - I would look for a gtk channel  - there won't be any specifically ubuntu you will want to find a channel that is related to what you are writing to...
[13:11] <blunderbomb> anyhelp would be greatly appreciated
[13:11] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: your partition contains important info? /home?
[13:12] <zoopster> blunderbomb: usb flash, compactflash? can your bios boot from it?
[13:12] <JoaoRodrigues> yep :x
[13:12] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, it has pretty much everthing
[13:12] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: its bad...
[13:12] <blunderbomb> zoopster nope
[13:12] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, what happened?
[13:12] <blunderbomb> usb flash
[13:12] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, I hit the wrong grub option and it ran the Recovery partition of Vista. Then it started acting like this..
[13:13] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: omg
[13:13] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, yeah, major fail :x
[13:13] <zoopster> blunderbomb: if it cannot boot from it...not sure you would want to boot from cd then call usb ...but if you can boot then make a specific call to /dev/sdxx or whatever the device name is you can mount and init from it
[13:14] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, but it didn't run nothing, it just hang usually at the big ERROR screen.. so I supposed it'd be ok..
[13:14] <JoaoRodrigues> any idea on how to get info back?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> JoaoRodrigues: restore from backup
[13:15] <blunderbomb> zoopster: so bake a cd bootable...put in a code that calls up the thumb drive to run? a .ini file in particular?
[13:15] <JoaoRodrigues> ActionParsnip1: restore from backup? how come?
[13:15] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: only hit i can give: try to mount this partition >>in R/O mode<< and dd it to somewhere
[13:15] <pngla> stdiopt, about the resolution problem at login, is it possible to get it to load everything before login?
[13:15] <zoopster> blunderbomb: erase your windows memory
[13:15] <blunderbomb> how do you init from it
[13:15] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, how do I do that actually :x ? (maybe pvt would be betteR)
[13:15] <zoopster> blunderbomb: boot from cd into grub then use the grub commands to call the kernel from the usb drive
[13:16] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: i dont remember all options of mount and dd commands )
[13:16] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: doesnt help :(
[13:16] <JoaoRodrigues> dmay, what's the R/O mode? (I'll google it)
[13:16] <dmay> JoaoRodrigues: read only
[13:16] <stdiopt> pngla i did correct that, almost removing my all homedir setup and reconfiguring stuff, but u should able to do that in a specific file that i'm not aware off
[13:16] <zoopster> blunderbomb: you will need to test to see 1) if you can see the usb drive prior to the kernel loading - if you cannot boot from usb then most likely you cannot boot from cd and call the kernel from the usb drive
[13:16] <JoaoRodrigues> ahm :D
[13:17] <blunderbomb> thanks zoopster, grub comes live? shopuld i look for bootable grub then?
[13:17] <stdiopt> pngla somewhere in .* files
[13:17] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: tried the stuff they said in the forum link u sent me .. also im using intrepid those instructions were for breezy i guess
[13:17] <zoopster> blunderbomb: if you want to boot from cd then mount the usb drive...that's pretty easy and simply mount /dev/sxxxx to a mount point
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: what doesnt?
[13:17] <pngla> stdiopt I'm not sure I understand what you mean. What config files should I look at?
[13:17] <zoopster> blunderbomb: use the ubuntu livecd...you can do it all from there
[13:18] <marcio> lv3,jjhbhbnklk,m
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> zoopster: if the usb is added to fstab it can be booted to like any block device
[13:18] <marcio> nknbkjnmbjbjnbv
[13:18] <marcio> vbnbnmnkjjh,gf.;g
[13:18] <marcio> jv jhhyhgkh, m
[13:18] <stdiopt> operator!
[13:18] <marcio> jkvjvbn b
[13:18] <marcio> hnvnvbgvfgc,f,cklc
[13:18] <FloodBot2> marcio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <marcio> cnhcnb b  vcvvcnccndfggfmm,fghvbbm,,v, vv gvmnvb
[13:18] <marcio> bcbcvcdcbnnbbvxxmcm,cx
[13:18] <zoopster> ActionParsnip1: yep...but I don't think that's what blunderbomb wants
[13:19] <wrathchild9> hi
[13:19] <stdiopt> pngla i'm not sure also, but i know is somefile there lol since i drasticly removed all of that files
[13:19] <blunderbomb> zoop i was wondering if i could do it all live.. want i want to do is boot ubuntu live from usb flash so  i could use it on other computers.. if that makes sense
[13:19] <pngla> stdiopt: Ok I'll take a look
[13:19] <marcio> vvhvhvliyuygfkgfkfguyfyff
[13:19] <marcio> fhvgvgvjvgcfcxklsklzjhxhc
[13:19] <Shikyo> hey guys :)
[13:19] <marcio> gcfgcjxgfrcxc
[13:19] <marcio> vfcgfchjhyghfktg3,
[13:19] <marcio> fdfdh
[13:20] <blunderbomb> iu would need grub to be live only then from a cd
[13:20] <Bullterd> Afternoon All
[13:20] <zoopster> blunderbomb: that's simple...in 8.10 there is a usb boot creator tool...very simple to make it bootable, BUT you have to be able to boot from the usb device
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> aftnoon Bullterd
[13:20] <zoopster> marcio: you will get kicked if you keep doing that
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> !usb | blunderbomb zoopster
[13:20] <Bullterd> I tried to install a program via apt-get earlier, and for some reason it froze. I cntl c'd to cancel, and now I can do any kind of remove of that package or flush
[13:20] <marcio> nmmnfcgmjgy
[13:21] <Bullterd> Any suggestions on how to force remove it ?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip1> !fixapt | Bullterd
[13:21] <Shikyo> i have a weird situation here, just installed ubuntu 7.10. in power management i accidentally turned brightness to 0%, and now i can't see a thing..
[13:21] <wrathchild9> i have a trouble with the interpid, installed it yesterday and it often freezes... i can't move my mouse pointer. i've read a topic on the ubuntuforums about a similar trouble, but it's not the same... i can shut down the pc w/out hard shut down. i just have to push the shut down button shortly and wait 60 seconds
[13:21] <Shikyo> that's on a laptop
[13:21] <blunderbomb> so i can or cant use a bootable device to boot a non bootable device?
[13:21] <Bullterd> Setting up pbeagent (7.0.5-109) ... <-- it just sits at that
[13:21] <wrathchild9> can you guys help me?
[13:21] <zoopster> ActionParsnip1: that's great for 8.04...it's all included in 8.10
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> !info pbeagent
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> zoopster: sweet, i suggested usb installation as an option a while back :)
[13:22] <blunderbomb> USB does not boot.... Looking for a workaround is all
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> Bullterd: i'd run the apt fix, then sudo apt-get clean
[13:22] <Bullterd> I apt-get installed apcupsd and everything installed OK but it just hung on pbeagent
[13:22] <zoopster> Myrtti: thanks
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> blunderbomb: ahh so the bios cant boot usb?
[13:23] <blunderbomb> nope
[13:23] <Myrtti> zoopster: np
[13:23] <Shikyo> could anyone possibly have any idea on what to do? because it quite pissed me off :(
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> blunderbomb: got it
[13:23] <Bullterd> Im running the apt fix... even that hands at setting up
[13:23] <Bullterd> *Hangs
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> Bullterd: is your drive ok?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> Bullterd: a reboot may help
[13:23] <Bullterd> Ya should be
[13:23] <Bullterd> Rebooted already
[13:23] <zoopster> ActionParsnip1: it is sweet!
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> zoopster: uber!
[13:24] <Bullterd> So yeah, its screwed :(
[13:24] <zoopster> blunderbomb: you can - just not simple - if you are booting from cd...then you might as well continue to boot from the cd
[13:25] <zoopster> blunderbomb: if you can boot from usb then why boot from cd only to load the kernel from the usb when the kernel, et al is already on the cd?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> zoopster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-report-tool/+bug/179809
[13:25] <ksbalaji> jrib, I did as found in debuggingprogramcrash site. (Now I remember - I installed this crash debugging to report crashes)   I get this new error - unsafe enclosing directory permissions on configuration file  `/home/balaji/.gnupg/gpg.conf' and gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions -Can you sort this out please?
[13:25] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: i dont think anyone has successfully connected bluetooth headphones to ubuntu
[13:25] <blunderbomb> the ability to change up files in the usb
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: looks like they have, its just weird
[13:26] <blunderbomb> if i want to add a program or.exe to my usb i can via any operating system
[13:26] <wigren> Hi all. I'm having trouble installing flashplugin-nonfree. When I try with the command line all I get is: http://pastebin.com/m45d18a3
[13:26] <blunderbomb> cdrw can only rewrite soo much
[13:27] <blunderbomb> any new goodies i want i can simply plug in da ol usb
[13:27] <ikonia> wigren: the adobe site is down
[13:27] <zoopster> blunderbomb: I think you are talking about 2 things here - you can easily boot from cd, mount the usb and install whatever you like from the usb after mounting it
[13:28] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: i saw many forums with no conclusions
[13:28] <ikonia> wigren: that url appears wrong, or currently invalid
[13:28] <wigren> ikonia: OIC. Well I guess I'll wait. Any idea when it will be back?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: id ask a little later or see if someone knows
[13:28] <zoopster> ActionParsnip1: that is a bit different...you  want to boot then install to usb which you can do, but the usb creator tool simple makes a liveusb option
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: kep searching, you'll strike gold
[13:28] <ikonia> wigren: I don't know if it's invalid because it's changed or because it's having a problem, but that url is no longer valid
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> zoopster: thats what i asked for, so the cd can be installed to usb with all the required boot usb funkiness
[13:29] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: i hope so .... g/f is quite pissed with the sound if i dont figure this out fast ill hafta sleep on the coutch
[13:30] <j2daosh> someone told me a couple weeks ago to add my wlan0 into my /etc/interfaces file, then told me to man interfaces... which didn't help me to understand exactly what i was doing. anyone know what I should be googling so i can figure out my wireless and make it start working?
[13:30] <AndyB> wiijii, hi again
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: is it that big a deal..sheesh
[13:30] <wrathchild9> hi! i have a trouble with the interpid, installed it yesterday and it often freezes... i can't move my mouse pointer. i've read a topic on the ubuntuforums about a similar trouble, but it's not the same... i can shut down the pc w/out hard shut down. i just have to push the shut down button shortly and wait 60 seconds. could you help me, guys?
[13:30] <ddgoose> Anyone tried the Project-Neon KDE 4.3 nightly PPA?
[13:30] <ddgoose> 4.2 even
[13:31] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: ya dude ... why else would i run to best buy and get bluetooth headphones
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> ddgoose: ask in #kubuntu
[13:31] <ikonia> wrathchild9: that is a hard shutdown
[13:31] <ksbalaji> jrib, ?
[13:31] <wrathchild9> ikonia: no, it shuts down normally, log, everything
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: no idea, i havent found a decent pair yet. my panasonic round ear ones are awesome
[13:31] <ikonia> wrathchild9: holding down the power button is a hard shutdown
[13:32] <j2daosh> ikonia: no when he says hard he means 4 second instant power off
[13:32] <wrathchild9> ikonia: you misunderstood me
[13:32] <AndyB> im trying to install grub on my internal drive from live cd by running the "grub-install /dev/sda" command, but it says "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." Does anyone know how i could install grub?
[13:32] <j2daosh> not hitting the power button, sending a sigkill to everything
[13:32] <ddgoose> Actionparsnip, It's not kubuntu related
[13:32] <ikonia> j2daosh: he said " i just have to push the shut  down button shortly and wait 60 seconds
[13:32] <wrathchild9> i don't hold the button
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> AndyB: try using sudo
[13:32] <wiijii> AndyB hi mate, how's it going?
[13:32] <ikonia> j2daosh: 60 seconds is not 4 seconds, thats a hard shutdown
[13:32] <blunderbomb> zoop i see your logic if im gonna use a cd anyways why even bother booting from usb....which is faster by the wat cd read or usb flash read??
[13:32] <Guest55467> hi could someone point me to some directions on how to get the logitech g5 buttons working in intrepid? cant find nothing :( thx!
[13:33] <ikonia> unless I'm missunderstanding
[13:33] <AndyB> ActionParsnip1, Thanks
[13:33] <j2daosh> yeah, waiting for everything to come down, not a hard shutdown which cuts the power
[13:33] <AndyB> wiijii, Not to good. need to reboot again, shall inform you in a sec =]
[13:33] <j2daosh> its not graceful like init 6/init 0
[13:33] <wiijii> AndyB OK
[13:33] <j2daosh> but its not a power cut off hard reboot
[13:33] <habit> Hello. I have usplash very stretched during boot on widescreen monitor. Looks horrible, advice me please.
[13:33] <ikonia> j2daosh: I get that, but if he holds down the power button for 6 seconds it will power off
[13:33] <ikonia> 60 seconds sorry
[13:34] <j2daosh> yeah, he said he pressed the power button and then waits 60 seconds
[13:34] <j2daosh> not holds it down for 60 seconds
[13:34] <wrathchild9> ikonia: if i press the button i get a dialog box which says if i don't choose anything from the list (shut down, reboot, hybernation), it will shut down automatically in 60 seconds
[13:34] <ikonia> ahhhh
[13:34] <ikonia> your not holding it in
[13:34] <j2daosh> :)
[13:34] <wrathchild9> nope i don't :)
[13:34] <D-MAN> anyone know how to animate the cairo dock?
[13:35] <yao_ziyuan> Murrine + X-Colors:
[13:35] <wrathchild9> so do you have any idea what causes it?
[13:35] <yao_ziyuan> http://i38.tinypic.com/rkpzy9.png
[13:35] <ikonia> wrathchild9: I suggest the first thing you do is open a gnome-terminal as soon as you login and run "vmstat 2" it should keep a window active, the next time it hangs see if that window freezes or keeps working
[13:36] <blunderbomb> thx for your help zoop..etc the main reason i wanted to boot from usb  even with cd.. is so i could eject the cd to use it where many  live distros dont let you do that
[13:37] <wrathchild9> ikonia: if it's frozen it does everything just doesn't react to the mouse and keyboard either
[13:37] <ikonia> wrathchild9: open the terminal and start the command I suggested before it freezes
[13:37] <ikonia> wrathchild9: are the keyboard and mouse wirless ?
[13:37] <wrathchild9> nope
[13:38] <ikonia> wrathchild9: does the capslock light come on
[13:38] <wrathchild9> didn't try
[13:38] <wrathchild9> brb i try it
[13:39] <Guggi> #hsse
[13:39] <zoopster> oops...sorry who was I chatting with?
[13:39] <atb101010> looking for a $150-200 linux compatible video card, any recommendations?
[13:40] <wigren> ikonia: It looks like I'm out of luck for now. Any suggestions? Can I change the address some how? I tried downloading it from Adobe's site, but I'm using x64 and it's only i386 on there.
[13:40] <zoopster> atb101010: yeesh - why not a simple 50 evga nvidia chipset
[13:40] <ardchoille> !hcl | atb101010
[13:40] <j2daosh> ok im not adding entries for each wireless network i want to connect to in the /etc/interfaces file... whats a different way? a more seamless way?
[13:41] <wrathchild9> ikonia: it's strange... it's frozen, but I can do everything via ssh... caps, num and scroll lock don't react
[13:41] <j2daosh> my wireless card is found, drivers are loaded, but no signal is being used... no signal recieved from the AP, and none going out as far was wireshark can tell
[13:41] <selinuxium> !hcl | selinuxium
[13:41] <atb101010> ubottu: thanks
[13:41] <wiijii> Is there any way on IRC to leave a message for someone who is offline, for them to receive when they return?
[13:41] <j2daosh> wrathchild9: probably your x, try going to f1 screen on the "froze" system
[13:41] <arun_> i have heard that ubuntu is based on debian and fedora on redhat?but someone says these four are four separate os.whats the truth?
[13:42] <wrathchild9> i've already tried it
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: if you rename your interfaces file and reboot you will get a fresh one, you ca then use your network config tool to setup the connection
[13:42] <j2daosh> ubuntu is debian based, fedora is made by redhat
[13:42] <wrathchild9> j2daosh: i've already tried it
[13:42] <j2daosh> ActionParsnip1: really now... time to give that a go and see what happens
[13:42] <wrathchild9> j2daosh: it doensn't work
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: i personally use seperate interface files for all networks i use and have a script to copy the right one in
[13:43] <j2daosh> ill brb if this dont work
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: cd /etc/network/; sudo mv ./interfaces ./interfaces_old
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: then reboot
[13:43] <j2daosh> ActionParsnip1: yeah but im not "paranoid" :P... i just want my wireless to work like it would on windows... a network is near, let me connect to it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: you could try a different app, like wifi-radar
[13:44] <j2daosh> but i get no signal regardless of the AP
[13:44] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: i just use cli lots so for me it makes sense
[13:45] <ksbalaji> While trying to repair GPG no-public key ...428D7C01 for ddeb.com, I had new error : unsafe directory permissions on configuration file  `/home/balaji/.gnupg/gpg.conf' ; gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions -Can you friends ort this out please?
[13:45] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: any luck ?
[13:45] <j2daosh> ahh, well yeah that would make sense too
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/152452
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> j2daosh: its a known bug
[13:46] <j2daosh> see thats not what i wanna see... i wanna hear, yeah, our stuff will run on your computer lol
[13:46] <ksbalaji> Can you friends sort  out  my problem please?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644858
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | ksbalaji
[13:47] <j2daosh> ksbalaji>	While trying to repair GPG no-public key ...428D7C01 for ddeb.com, I had new error : unsafe directory permissions on configuration file `/home/balaji/.gnupg/gpg.conf' ; gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions -Can you friends ort this out please?
[13:47] <ksbalaji> ActionParsnip1, actually, I was rectifying a typo.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: http://all2ez.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/motorokr-s9-bluetooth-headphones/
[13:48] <badawi> !paste
[13:48] <wigren> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6309588 has a solution.
[13:48] <AndyB> ActionAprsnip1, No look same error about no /boot when i run grub-install as sudo
[13:49] <AndyB> wiijii, Sorry about that, im not having much luck, grub-install isnt finding the /boot
[13:49] <nbeebo> i asked in #virtualbox, but is there anyway to change gamma in a virtual windows machine in vitualbox?
[13:49] <arun_> have anyone heard of boss?bharath operating systems solutions
[13:50] <GColley> j2daosh: With all do respect, Ubuntu is a free and open-source platform. The developers and contributors use their own time and the effort without getting paid to do so to provide a easy, and stable platform for you to use. If you're not satisfied, then choose another platform. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for the bug to be solved, or help find a solution yourself.
[13:50] <malcom2073> nbeebo: there are a couple windows apps to change gamma, you should try one of them perhaps?
[13:50] <nbeebo> malcom2073; ive tried gammasutra and another popular program... doesnt work at all
[13:51] <malcom2073> Ah hmm, odd
[13:51] <wrathchild9> guys, so i figured out, i have trouble with the keyboard/mouse driver or something like that... can I do something with it?
[13:51] <lucien_> ciao a tutti
[13:51] <GColley> wrathchild9: What exactly is the issue?
[13:51] <nbeebo> !xorg
[13:52] <erUSUL> !hi | lucien_
[13:53] <wrathchild9> GColley: I thought my PC freezes randomly, but it doesn't freeze, just the mouse and the keyboard stops randomly together... I can do everything via SSH...
[13:53] <ardchoille> sounds like a hardware problem
[13:54] <lets_fets> exit
[13:54] <GColley> wrathchild9: What kind of mouse and keyboard input? PS2/USB?
[13:54] <wrathchild9> PS2 both
[13:54] <wrathchild9> GColley: PS2 both
[13:55] <GColley> wrathchild9: PS2 is usually pretty stable. It sounds like a hard ware problem; have you tried using the mouse and keyboard on another computer?
[13:55] <wrathchild9> GColley: nope... but everything worked fine 'til yesterday when I reinstalled the Ubuntu... I used to use 6.06 LTS
[13:56] <wrathchild9> GColley: sorry I have to go now for 10 minutes, brb. thanks for the help
[13:57] <GColley> See ya
[13:57] <wrathchild9> see you
[13:57] <habit> Hello. I have usplash very stretched during boot on widescreen monitor. Looks horrible, advice me please.
[13:57] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me get my server to emaill cron's output to a real email address rather than the local account?
[13:57] <GColley> habit: What is the native resolution of your monitor? And what video card do you have?
[13:58] <habit> GColley, nvidia card, 1680x1050.
[13:59] <caglar> Leave
[13:59] <GColley> habit: Do you experience the same problem once you're actually logged into Ubuntu?
[13:59] <wanlai> i need help i just booted on with my ubuntu live cd i keep getting grub error 22.. i need to fix my grub or something any help?
[14:00] <habit> GColley, nope, it is about only usplash.
[14:00] <ksbalaji> I cant solve GPG no-public key problem. Help
[14:00] <ali3nwar3> !compiz
[14:00] <LjL> habit: it's a known bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/64147 may have some tips
[14:00] <sipior> ksbalaji: which problem is that?
[14:00] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: hi .. u know im new to ubuntu however i found something that just might help my problem .. thing is i dont know how to install it check it out here https://edge.launchpad.net/~blueman/+archive
[14:01] <habit> LjL, thank you.
[14:01] <y0315219> un...
[14:01] <y0315219> im fishman
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: sudo apt-get install blueman
[14:02] <y0315219> it's too easy...
[14:02] <sammyF> !pulseaudio
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: also try sudo apt-get install bluez
[14:03] <ksbalaji> sipior, can I PM you please? I have  a few lines to type - dont want to flood here.
[14:03] <sammyF> soory, but I have to ask : when the switch to pulseaudio was made in 8.04, was everybody drunk or high?
[14:03] <sipior> ksbalaji: simpler just to use a pastebin, surely?
[14:03] <y0315219> how can i use my camera ?
[14:03] <LjL> !paste | ksbalaji
[14:03] <spolcrat> hello
[14:03] <y0315219> anyone can help me ?
[14:03] <wigren> ikonia: I see you helping a lot of people here so in case you get a question similar to mine (404 when installing flashplugin-nonfree) these instructions worked for me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6309588
[14:03] <spolcrat> anyone can help me with cedega?
[14:03] <LjL> !anyone
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> !camera
[14:04] <LjL> also, no, Cedega is a proprietary product not shipped with Ubuntu, with its own support channels
[14:04] <LjL> y0315219: try to be a bit more specific
[14:04] <y0315219> yes
[14:04] <y0315219> i have a camera
[14:04] <y0315219> but i don't know how to use it
[14:04] <GColley> !porn
[14:04] <GColley> Lies^^
[14:04] <LjL> read its instruction manual?
[14:04] <LjL> !botabuse | GColley
[14:05] <y0315219> this video can worked well under windows
[14:05] <spolcrat> i need help to update cedega
 this error show
 error extracting cedega engine  version 6.1.1 from download archive
 anyone can hellp e pls
[14:05] <FloodBot2> spolcrat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> y0315219: F-Spot maybe
[14:05] <LjL> spolcrat: http://www.transgaming.com/support/
[14:05] <y0315219> F-Spot?
[14:05] <stdiopt> chatzilla lol
[14:06] <lxuserNewbie> does anyone get the sound capture work correctly with "Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)" ?? I got very low voice record.
[14:06] <LjL> y0315219, is that a CAMERA, or a WEBCAM? and which, anyway?
[14:06] <y0315219> un...a WEBCAM certainly
[14:06] <spolcrat> yes but i thing this problem is with ubuntu
[14:06] <LjL> !webcam | y0315219
[14:06] <spolcrat> because the extract diretory
[14:07] <stdiopt> does anyone know what anyone doing to anyone?
[14:07] <lodder> I have installed ubuntu as domU by using debootstrap but now the sudo isn't correct and some other features of ubuntu. can I t be reolved with the installation of a packet or something else.
[14:07] <panfist> i am trying to use rsync to synchronize a large collection of files, approximately 1 million files totalling 2TB of space. the amount of data I have to synchronize is too much to send over the internet. is it possible to rsync to intermediate storage, like from source -> external drive -> destination. i would like rsync to build a file list based on the diff between the source and dest, but then copy to the external drive i
[14:08] <lxuserNewbie> captured voice form Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) extremely low, how to fix/where to get support? thanks
[14:08] <Neaai> lodder: what do you mean sudo isn't correct ?
[14:09] <pi_3> !screenlets
[14:10] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s
[14:10] <sammyF> pi_3: afaik, screenlets development has been dropped though
[14:10] <ksbalaji_> sipior, http://pastebin.com/m1214d55c
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> !ich
[14:10] <stdiopt> u should try a 28bps modem then
[14:10] <lxuserNewbie>  captured voice form Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) extremely low, how to fix / where to get support? thanks
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> !hda
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> !intelhda
[14:10] <pi_3> sammyf, what's being used now then?
[14:11] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:11] <LjL> panfist: hm i'm really not sure (and i'm not an rsync user), but have you looked at the "--compare-dest" option in rsync's manpage?
[14:11] <sipior> ksbalaji_: and just what are the permissions on the directory .gnupg? they should be rwx------, i believe.
[14:12] <wrathchild9> GColley: I'm back
[14:12] <sammyF> pi_3: the gnome specific applets I think. Can't really tell you, as I don't use that kind of things. But a friend of mine wrote a few screenlets and told me they stopped working on it
[14:12] <pi_3> aight, thanks sammyf
[14:13] <sammyF> oO .. Fallout3 runs in wine
[14:13] <sammyF> that's freaky
[14:13] <bjb1959> Evolution requires a password everytime I start it, any idea how to change that?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> sammyF: why, it gets a gold rating in tests: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14322
[14:15] <mphill> bjb1959: Is there a "remember password" in the account settings
[14:15] <y0315219> mabe you can let it remember your password
[14:15] <sammyF> ActionParsnip1: yeah. THat's what I just saw. Didn't try it myself
[14:15] <ksbalaji_> sipior, got disconnected! any idea?
[14:15] <a1len> Hi guys. Can you move all of the files in a directory by doing mv foof/* ?
[14:15] <Zaraki_Kenpachi> hi, i need help to make microdia web cam work, here's the result of lsusb command in my system http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1682f1db, since 7.04 to 8.10 i don't know to resolve it
[14:16] <sammyF> a1len: add -r at the end
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> sammyF: lots of games run. im playing settlers 2 through mine :)
[14:16] <ksbalaji_> sipior, http://pastebin.com/m1214d55c
[14:16] <sipior> ksbalaji_: yes, i asked what the permissions were on the directory .gnupg. they should be rwx------.
[14:16] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:16] <LjL> sammyF: "mv" has no "-r" option
[14:16] <a1len> sammyF: I don't understand... mv foof/* -r? or mv -r /foof/?
[14:16] <mphill> wine is one of the most amazing application, I run outlook 2007 at work with crossover office (and word 2007, and visio).
[14:16] <ksbalaji_> sipior, yes.
[14:16] <sammyF> LjL: oops indeed
[14:17] <bjb1959> mphill, I will check but the dialog says that evolution wants access to the default keyring and wants the password for that. so is that a evolution or ubuntu issue?
[14:17] <DarkKnight> hey how can we forcefully mount a drive
[14:17] <sammyF> LjL: was thinking of copy
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> mphill: crossover is a bit rich for my blood
[14:17] <mphill> bjb1959: thats so it can securely store your password, go through with
[14:17] <Sinister`> lxde how do i get icons on the desktop ?
[14:17] <LjL> a1len, sammyF: look at the "-t" or "--target-directory" option instead
[14:17] <sammyF> mphill: hmmm ... why would you want to run THAT?
[14:17] <sipior> ksbalaji_: yes? do you mean that the permissions of the directory .gnupg are, in fact, rwx------?
[14:17] <fosco_> Sinister`: many ways, you can use pcmanfm, idesk...
[14:17] <mphill> ActionParsnip1: I got it for free with that day they gave aways their applications for free.
[14:18] <DarkKnight> hey how can we forcefully mount a drive
[14:18] <fosco_> DarkKnight: mount -o force ....
[14:18] <mphill> sammyF: crossover office or outlook?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> mphill: i fine wine aceptale, plus its not closed source
[14:18] <sammyF> mphill: sorry .. Was incendiary I guess. I know some people have to use it for work
[14:18] <dmg> ivman automounts my mp3 player, which is nice, but as user 'ivman', so I don't have write (or unmount) perms.  How can I fix that?
[14:18] <mphill> ActionParsnip1: I don't think you can run outlook 2007 with wine out of the box though.
[14:18] <mchelen> yeah if crossover were open source like wine it would be nice
[14:19] <Static--> they did that for 1 day :)
[14:19] <mphill> sammyF: They have imap turned OFF on the exhcange server, otherwise i would use thunderbird.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> mphill: ive no use fo outlook, we use lotus notes here :)
[14:19] <bjb1959> mphill, I have remember password checked in evolution already so that isn't it.  I can use thunderbird without it asking so wonder if there is a workaround for evolution
[14:19] <ksbalaji_> sipior, I right clicked on .gnupg and hit properties>permissions. I see root create and delete files.
[14:19] <mphill> ActionParsnip1: I wish my company would suport IBM products. They are so much nicer to work with.
[14:20] <sammyF> mphill: yeah. As I said, I was pining for Flamebait I guess.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> dmg: you need to edit the mounting to allow users, you can add an entry to fstab or maybe theres some wonderful gnome way to do i
[14:20] <sipior> ksbalaji_: try this: open up a terminal, and type "ls -ld .gnupg"
[14:20] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:20] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: it constantly says cannot lock to admin dirertory
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> mphill: just dont buy their servers ;)
[14:20] <sipior> ksbalaji_: to be more specific, "ls -ld ${HOME}/.gnupg"
[14:20] <mphill> bjb1959: try to unclick, close the app, restart, and they click remember the password.  Maybe you just need to "clear it out".
[14:20] <dmg> ActionParsnip1: I'm not running gnome, just fluxbox.  Is it just the entry in /etc/fstab, then?
[14:21] <wrathchild9> GColley: so everything worked fine 'til yesterday when I reinstalled the Ubuntu... I used to use 6.06 LTS
[14:21] <bjb1959> I'll give that a shot thanks
[14:21] <ksbalaji_> sipior, drwxrwxr-x 2 root balaji 4096 2008-12-05 18:41 .gnupg
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> dmg: makes sense to me, nice choice with fluxbox. Dont mix desktop enviroment with window manager ;)
[14:21] <a1len> hmmm.. does anyone know a good place to get 9.5 pscx2 for linux? And, I had it installed, but it ran choppy due probably to me using the default graphics plugin... anyone know how to change the plugin? My computer should handle it.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> dmg: you run fluxbox with gnome / kde etc
[14:22] <ksbalaji_> sipior, drwxrwxr-x 2 root balaji 4096 2008-12-05 18:41 /home/balaji/.gnupg
[14:22] <ActionParsnip1> dmg: the default window manager for gnome is metacity
[14:22] <sipior> ksbalaji_: yeah that's...incorrect. two things: you don't want user root owning the directory, and the permissions are not nearly restrictive enough. try this: "sudo chown -R balaji .gnupg", and then "chmod 700 .gnupg"
[14:23] <DarkKnight> hey i have 2 hard disks connected and i wanted to mount the hard disk forcefully and i don't know in which directory the location, the disk is located
[14:23] <TJ-42> I want to switch to 64-bit ubuntu so I can make use of more than 4gb of ram (yes I use it all).  Should I expect to have many compatibility problems with old software?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> sipior: you couldve put a ; or && between and had a sinle command ;)
[14:23] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:23] <dmg> ActionParsnip1: I don't run gnome _or_ kde .. just fluxbox.
[14:23] <sipior> ActionParsnip1: wow, that's really interesting
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> DarkKnight: run mount on its own, if its mounted, it will tell you
[14:24] <zoopster> TJ-42: usually not
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> dmg: imposible
[14:24] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:24] <dimebar> ActionParsnip1: how is that impossible?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> sipior: ; means 'run this next', && means 'run the next step ONLY if previous command passed'
[14:24] <dmg> ActionParsnip1: uh ... ? ok ...
[14:24] <sammyF> bahaa2008: is it too slow in a particular situation?
[14:24] <sipior> ActionParsnip1: i know what it means, friend. i was being ironic. you're getting in the way of my helping this person.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> dmg, dimebar: fluxbox is only a window manager, it runs with the desktop enviromnment
[14:25] <ksbalaji_> sipior, now drwx------ 2 balaji balaji 4096 2008-12-05 18:41 /home/balaji/.gnupg
[14:25] <dmg> ActionParsnip1: fluxbox launchs my rxvts/firefox/audacious/psi/skype
[14:25] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip1; actually my XP which is installed on the other disk has crashed and i have put some important data on my desktop which i need to retrieve
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> dmg, dimebar: the default window manager for kde is kwin and for gnome its metacity
[14:25] <dmg> ActionParsnip1: which of those makes me run gnome or kde
[14:25] <sipior> ksbalaji_: work any better?
[14:25] <bahaa2008> sammyF: no
[14:25] <bahaa2008> sammyF: it's also like that
[14:25] <gamla_kossan> hi people. I'm running a ubuntu server, and I'd very much like to install the easy-rsa scripts that normally ship with openvpn (like, for fedora and redhat). would anyone have a clue on how to get a hold of them?
[14:26] <dimebar> ActionParsnip1: fluxbox depends on neither; it can be run alone
[14:26] <rrittenhouse> In network-manager what does "System-setting" (the checkbox) actually mean?
[14:26] <truebosko> Hi there, I setup a simple Samba share but it seems if I copy a lot of files over the network (lan, not wireless) eventually windows craps out and says it can't find the share anymore. IT stays like this for about ~2 minutes then I can re-connect to my Samba share. Anyone have any tips as to why this is happening?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> dmg: if you installed ubuntu then switched window manager to fluxbox, you are running gnome underneath
[14:26] <ksbalaji_> sipior, can I now proceed with my original no GPG public key rectification now?
[14:26] <bahaa2008> sammyF: i have to wait 3 hours to copy 3 GB over network
[14:26] <dimebar> ActionParsnip1: that isn't correct.
[14:26] <giganto> Hi all, can someone help me with .mkv files? I am having trouble playing them...
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> dimebar: you cant, the window manager only draws the windows and menus on the screen
[14:26] <sipior> ksbalaji_: give it a try
[14:26] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip1; any idea??
[14:26] <gamla_kossan> giganto: disabled the composite desktop?
[14:27] <dmg> ActionParsnip1: gdm launches my ~/.xsession file
[14:27] <dimebar> ActionParsnip1: I think you may need to go and do a little more research :)
[14:27] <giganto> gamla_kossan, yes
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> DarkKnight: you need ntfs-3g and you can mount the partition
[14:27] <giganto> gamla_kossan, .avi plays fine
[14:27] <sammyF> bahaa2008: how do you copy the files? samba? ftp?
[14:27] <gamla_kossan> giganto: tried all sorts of players, incl vlc?
[14:27] <giganto> gamla_kossan, i've also installed all the required dependencies/codecs
[14:27] <giganto> gamla_kossan, yes
[14:27] <bahaa2008> sammyF: is this normal ?
[14:27] <giganto> gamla_kossan, got mPlayer/ vlc
[14:27] <gamla_kossan> giganto: well, I'm stumped.. too low specs for your comp?
[14:27] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip1; ya its installed....now how??
[14:27] <bahaa2008> sammyF: samba
[14:27] <giganto> gamla_kossan, quite impossible
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> !ntfs-3g | DarkKnight
[14:28] <giganto> gamla_kossan, im running a mobility radeon X1600
[14:28] <gamla_kossan> !easy-rsa
[14:28] <gamla_kossan> !openvpn
[14:28] <mphill> bahaa2008: what protocol are you using to transfer ?
[14:28] <zoopster> gamla_kossan: apt-get install openvpn and the scripts are in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa
[14:28] <rrittenhouse> In network-manager what does "System-setting" (the checkbox) actually do?
[14:28] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip1; i checked my synaptic...and it shows that its installed...
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> dmg; gdm is part of gnome
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> just researching
[14:29] <bahaa2008> sammyF: i use the default
[14:29] <Ohkie> hi. has anybody got any advice on recovering (preferrably creating an iso) from a dvd that seems to be damaged?
[14:29] <gamla_kossan> zoopster: <3 thanks so much!
[14:29] <justizin> Ohkie: if the dvd is damaged, your image will be damaged.
[14:29] <giganto> gamla_kossan, i followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[14:29] <tovella> ActionParsnip1: certainly there are ways to use gdm without all of gnome installed (and use fluxbox, openbox, e17, etc).
[14:29] <Ohkie> justi: i figure there is no harm in trying :)
[14:29] <giganto> gamla_kossan, i tried XV / X11 but nothing works
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Ohkie: use dd_rescue to create an iso of the dvd, you can then mount it and read what data is left
[14:30] <giganto> gamla_kossan, .avi plays fine on both vlc and mPlayer but not .mkv
[14:30] <Ohkie> thanks actionparsnip1 :)
[14:30] <giganto> is there a better channel to ask?
[14:30] <gamla_kossan> giganto: sorry my man, I don't have a clue :/
[14:31] <giganto> gamla_kossan, no worries then
[14:31] <eltese> giganto are you having problems trying to play your mkv files ?
[14:31] <giganto> eltese, yes ... lol
[14:31] <Juhaz> ActionParsnip1, don't be ridiculous. gdm is part of gnome but it does not start the gnome desktop "underneath" if you run something else from it
[14:31] <bahaa2008> mphill: i use the default samba protocol
[14:31] <giganto> eltese, i've tried everything I know
[14:32] <Ohmu> can anyone help me get a WAP up and running from Ibex?  It was working in Heron.
[14:32] <giganto> eltese, basically I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[14:32] <eltese> giganto what happens when you open them with vlc? And also is it HD files your trying to open?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> dimebar: so you can run fluxbox without kde or gnome or any other DE?
[14:32] <giganto> eltese, opening them in both vlc and mplayer are choppy
[14:32] <sipior> ksbalaji_: did that change work for you?
[14:32] <giganto> eltese, and umm, yes they are h264 videos
[14:33] <Kragnerac> :)
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Juhaz: i see, im learning :D
[14:33] <bahaa2008> mphill: hay did u got anything to say ?
[14:33] <ksbalaji_> sipior, Hey! you are great! that solved my problem. I could update without errors now. Do I have to change back the permissions now?
[14:33] <eltese> giganto ok I see. Does "blocks" appear on screen ? Does audio work?
[14:33] <dimebar> ActionParsnip1: yes; even without gdm/kdm etc.
[14:33] <SOURdiesel> how can i find which video driver is installed?
[14:33] <eltese> giganto what gfx are you on?
[14:34] <sipior> ksbalaji_: don't change them back, unless you want it to break again :) glad you have it working.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> dimebar: well thats just made my future gentoo installs a billion times easier
[14:34] <giganto> eltese, yes blocks do appear a little, audio works. On mplayer, the audio and video doesn't match up and im using Mobility radeon X1600
[14:34] <ksbalaji_> sipior, thank you! have a nice day/night! and bye!
[14:35] <Qixotic> hi, how do you check if a drive is connected under sata 150 or sata 300?
[14:35] <eltese> hmms ok giganto.. My experience in Linux is that VLC tends to handle 264 files much better then Mplayer. Im gonna put this at bad video rendering problem. Give me a sec and I'll figure out something good :]
[14:35] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:35] <giganto> eltese, cheers :)
[14:36] <dimebar> ActionParsnip1: its an easy mistake/assumption to make; the lines are blurred between Desktop Environments and Window Managers
[14:36] <SOURdiesel> how can i find which video driver is installed?
[14:36] <giganto> eltese, oh by the way, what exactly do u mean by blocks?
[14:36] <giganto> eltese, I was assuming chuggishness
[14:36] <eltese> giganto: If there are pixel blocks in the picture.
[14:36] <giganto> eltese, or were u refering to videos freezing?
[14:36] <giganto> eltese, hmm
[14:37] <giganto> eltese, hang on, let me check
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> dimebar: tru, but now after i get my kernel and lan connected, I cn emerge fluxbox and drink my beer
[14:37] <Zaraki_Kenpachi> hi, i need help to make microdia web cam work, here's the result of lsusb command in my system http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1682f1db, since 7.04 to 8.10 i don't know to resolve it
[14:37] <bahaa2008> my lan spped is too slow about 200 kb/s , any help ?
[14:38] <sipior> bahaa2008: well, what speed should it be?
[14:38] <giganto> eltese, yes, there are pixel blocks in vlc/ i was playing an anime
[14:38] <zoopster> bahaa2008: speed? or throughput?
[14:38] <sipior> bahaa2008: also, how are you testing the throughput?
[14:38] <stdiopt> bahaa2008 u should try 28bps modem then
[14:38] <eltese> giganto : Doesnt matter that much really.. I just wanna know if you can open the movies and get audio / video but with "chuggishness" as you so dearly put it or if you get no picture at all
[14:38] <jim_p> bahaa2008, i know i sound evil, but give it a shot and disable network manager and use static ips if possible.
[14:39] <arnaldocapo> hi there
[14:39] <jim_p> hi arnaldocapo
[14:39] <arnaldocapo> Hey, I have a question
[14:39] <giganto> eltese, ah i see, well yeah, definitely can play videos with sound, just badly
[14:40] <eltese> Ok
[14:40] <arnaldocapo> someone here is familiar with vsftpd running in ubuntuserver?
[14:40] <bahaa2008> jim_p: how to disable network manger
[14:40] <bahaa2008> jim_p: i use static ips
[14:41] <jim_p> bahaa2008, set the ips inside /etc/network/interfaces and remove network manager
[14:41] <jim_p> bahaa2008, i can pm you my layout of that file
[14:41] <mphill> bahaa2008: you can also try to remove ipv6 for additional speed (not sure if that hack still applies)
[14:41] <eltese> giganto : Im pretty sure it is because of bad rendering by vlc / mplayer. But well get that fixed... Just dont remember atm wich choice you ought to take.. So just wait a little moment ;D
[14:42] <giganto> eltese, ah yeah and the sound isn't matching up with the video
[14:43] <tomcheng76> what is the speed of GE if i use a cat5 cable instead of cat5e/6 ?
[14:43] <bahaa2008> jim_p: pm me your layout
[14:43] <doctorow> What's the best way to convert an XVID file to a DV, preserving bitrate, framesize, etc(just a straight transcode without any resizing, IOW)?
[14:43] <mphill> tomcheng76: I get about 12 MB (megabytes) per second
[14:44] <arnaldocapo> some1 here has an ftp server?
[14:44] <tomcheng76> mphill: thxs, is that true that no need crossover if it is GE network?
[14:45] <mphill> tomcheng76: i don't know, sorry
[14:45] <tomcheng76> mphill: ty, np
[14:45] <erUSUL> arnaldocapo: maybe in #ubuntu-server ?
[14:45] <arnaldocapo> ohh k
[14:45] <arnaldocapo> thank
[14:46] <Ohmu> jim_p: could you help me get a WAP running?  I'm very stuck...
[14:46] <eltese> giganto : Read this.. http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11064 g2g for a little while.. My son is screaming
[14:46] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:46] <eltese> giganto : otherwise play around with rendering choise
[14:46] <eltese> *choice
[14:46] <eltese> Im 99% is has something to do with that
[14:46] <Tetracomm> Is there any fingerprint reader software for Ubuntu?
[14:46] <DavidCanarias> Hi everyone
[14:47] <Sinister`> lxde how do you put icons on the desktop ?
[14:48] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone help me please? When I load in a DVD and right click to copy it to my computer - no problems. I then burn it to disc and it doesn't read in my DVD player which reads most things, but its perfectly OK in the computer. Any help appreciated!!!
[14:48] <angasule> it is possible that the command "apt-get purge python" didn't ask for confirmation before proceeding?
[14:48] <jim_p> Ohmu, sure, hit it
[14:50] <Ohmu> jim_p: Can I do the whole thing without any GUI stuff?  No network manager, no wicd, etc?
[14:50] <karim> hello
[14:51] <jim_p> Ohmu, theoritically, yes. practically... i have tried connecting with wep and it all went wrong
[14:51] <DavidCanarias> I need a little help buying a new printer. Can anyone recommend one that works 100% with Linux???
[14:51] <Guest26813> can i ask a little question?
[14:51] <jim_p> Ohmu, i could connect if i disabled wep key from the hotspot, but its no use
[14:51] <Ohmu> jim_p: I'm not using wep.  I'm going for like a 'hello world' WAP
[14:52] <DJones> !hcl | DavidCanarias You might be better picking a couple of printers that suit your needs and then checking them against the Hardware list
[14:52] <Tesssa> can i ask a question please
[14:52] <jim_p> Ohmu, wap as in... www for cellphones etc?? i thought of wpa. damn
[14:53] <DavidCanarias> DJones: Thanks very much! Will do although these days its not so easy! Cheers
[14:53] <Ohmu> jim_p, I'm trying to get my housemates online
[14:53] <Ohmu> jim_p, I have a wifi card.  I had it working in Heron.  But it's broken now I upgraded to Intrepid.
[14:53] <DJones> DavidCanarias: no probs, from my experience, I've found that HP work well and Lexmark don't work that well
[14:54] <jim_p> Tesssa, hit it
[14:54] <Lorenzo> I have a question
[14:55] <jim_p> Ohmu, have you tried disabling nm to see if it works? what model is that card?
[14:55] <SOURdiesel> how can i find video driver details?
[14:55] <DavidCanarias> DJones: I think you are probably right and I agree with you, that's why I preferred to ask the question to the real world out there! I am looking particularly at the Hewlett Packard Photosmart D5160. Linux say it's pretty good, but I cant find the drivers anywhere. They direct me to one site and being a newbie they talk about all sort of things I just don't understand. Obviously a deb package for a certain printer is the easiest, 
[14:56] <phreak_> hallo
[14:57] <DJones> DavidCanarias: The printers I use are older models so I've never had to install any additional drivers outside of what is available by default
[14:57] <DavidCanarias> Does anyone on the chat this afternoon have any experience trying to copy DVD's and burn them successfully! I cant do it!!!!
[14:57] <Gun_Smoke> when taring a users home folder as root are permission left untouched by default?  I know when extracting you can -p to preserve, but I don't know if it is required when making the archive..
[14:57] <[c0re]> how to modify emerald theme?
[14:58] <DavidCanarias> DJones: Appreciate your help anyway! I'll sort something out, but it's dreadful that we go to buy something in a computer store and the minute you mention Linux - well I think you turn invisible as they just don't want to know!!!! Shame isn't it?
[14:58] <rrittenhouse> In network-manager what does "System-setting" (the checkbox) actually do?
[14:59] <Zaraki_Kenpachi> DavidCanarias, i use k3b, it worked fine, it kind of like nero
[14:59] <dietwater> Does anybody know how this screenshot's desktop clock was done?  ( http://screenlets.org/images/c/c8/Mydesk.jpg )
[15:01] <[c0re]> how to modify emerald theme?
[15:02] <Tomay> Hi every body, I downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 DVD & when booting from it the error:
[15:02] <DavidCanarias> Zaaraki_Kenpachi: I did like K3b too, but unfortunately no way I can get it to work. I even changed from Hardy to Intrepid living in hope, but its hopeless so I removed it!! Brasero gives me the same problems so it's deleted too! There is probably something wrong with my K3b, but I haven't been able to find out what!!!
[15:03] <Tomay> Hi every body, I downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 DVD & when booting from it the error:
[15:03] <erUSUL> !ask | Tesssa
[15:03] <iamelite> Hello to everyone. I am proud to announce, with your help and 50 million retrys, i have gotten my PPC Imac g3 running Ubuntu. But i am in need of your help again.
[15:03] <Tomay> [xxx.xxx] Buffer I/0 error on device sr0, logical block xxx
[15:04] <Tomay>  Plese help me :'(
[15:04] <iamelite> When i installed multiple desktop environments on my machine in the past i took notice of ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop clone applications in my menus. Terminal for xfce and for gnome, by example. What is the correct way to install desktops?
[15:04] <lodder> I have installed ubuntu as domU by using debootstrap but now the sudo isn't correct and some other features of ubuntu. can I t be reolved with the installation of a packet or something else.
[15:04] <apelW> how do I check what process is taking port 3128 ?
[15:05] <erUSUL> apelW: lsof -i -n :3128
[15:05] <Neaai> When I set an ip address statically via nm-applet I have noticed that /etc/network/interfaces remains empty. Where are the settings stored ?
[15:06] <erUSUL> Neaai: Network Manager uses gconf i think
[15:07] <cutterjohn> hello people
[15:07] <cutterjohn> ...and ahem my ulterior motive for appearing this morning...
[15:07] <Neaai> erUSUL: so while I have never had to use gconf, I need to think about this too? What was wrong with /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:07] <erUSUL> Neaai: nothing you can still use it. ifaces listed in interfaces will be ignored by network manager
[15:09] <cutterjohn> I made the grave error of installing the kubuntu base package last night to take a look at it.  Attempted to use it for a few hours, then decided to ditch it in disgust.  But now under GNOME I find that my brightness level widget no longer appears AND worse yet I'm stuck with that awful kubuntu splash screen.  Does anyone know of an easy way to get those back to the original ubuntu setup again w/o re-installing everything?
[15:09] <erUSUL> Neaai: you have to edit interfaces with a text editor though
[15:09] <cutterjohn> (II'll also admit that I thought it might be quicker to ask here than to search first... ;D )
[15:09] <erUSUL> !puregnome | cutterjohn
[15:09] <cutterjohn> (BTW what happened to kubunut? it a slow mess?)
[15:10] <cutterjohn> ubottu: thank you
[15:10] <NicEXE> how can Cheese detect my webcam? I can see what my webcam sees using this command: sudo mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0
[15:10] <Tomay>  I downloaded UBUNTU 8.10 DVD & burned it & when booting from the dvd an error message: as below
[15:10] <Tomay>  [xxx.xxxxxx] Buffer I/0 error on device sr0, logical block xxxxxx
[15:10] <Tomay>  Help me PLEASE :(
[15:10] <Neaai> erUSUL: I see. Also some other thing I've noticed. My default gateway knows how to route the ip block 169.254.1.0/24.  When I add a route for 169.254.0.0/16 to go to my gateway ip, nothing happens. My box and the gateway have public ip addresses. Is there any option that prevents the packets related to the private 169.254 block from ever exiting ?
[15:10] <cutterjohn> (I was hoping that just removing the main parts of kde would fix it, but I guess not...)
[15:11] <mpalatnik> 169 should never be routed
[15:12] <ubu1> hello everybody
[15:12] <ubu1> can anyone help me with this issue :
[15:12] <fasta> How do I unignore someone with xchat-gnome?
[15:12] <ext> cutterjohn: sudo startupmanager
[15:12] <NicEXE> how can Cheese detect my webcam? I can see what my webcam sees using this command: sudo mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0
[15:12] <ubu1> i have installed etherape on a virtual guest ubuntu using virtualbox
[15:12] <erUSUL> Neaai: i'm not a network expert but afaik 169.254.*.* are reserved ip that can not be used...
[15:12] <Neaai> mpalatnik: I use those for monitoring purposes
[15:12] <ext> cutterjohn: appearance
[15:12] <ext> cutterjohn: usplash themes
[15:12] <ubu1> but the etherape crashs
[15:13] <cutterjohn> I'm hoping that will also fix my general brightness settings problems too as ever since making the mistakeof installing the base kubuntu packages my brightness flops back to max in GNOME every once in a while too...
[15:13] <ubu1> any idea please ?
[15:13] <kernando> hellp! i cannot click on certain things i think this might have something to do with compiz
[15:13] <lodder> I have installed ubuntu as domU by using debootstrap but now the sudo isn't correct and some other features of ubuntu. can I t be reolved with the installation of a packet or something else?
[15:13] <Neaai> erUSUL: indeed. But the same operation worked when I used 8.04 and now that I have 8.10 it doesn't work.
[15:13] <kernando> i cant click on things inside of programs
[15:13] <kernando> or oppen folders
[15:13] <cutterjohn> just did it again
[15:14] <ubu1>  i have installed etherape on a virtual guest ubuntu using virtualbox but the etherape crashs !!!!! :(
[15:14] <cutterjohn> ext: startupmanager not found
[15:15] <cutterjohn> ext is it an optional package?
[15:15] <erUSUL> Neaai: well i was wrong and right... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address they can be used but can't be routed if i read it correctly
[15:15] <cutterjohn> ext: yep found it in the repo
[15:16] <erUSUL> Neaai: that's as far as i can help you you wil have to find someone who knows more about networks than i
[15:16] <gribouille> hi
[15:17] <gribouille> I want to disable suspend and hibernate completely
[15:17] <cutterjohn> ext: ok did the splash screen, any ideas on the LCD birghtness level flipping back from my setting to max every once in a while? vestige of kde power mgmt maybe?
[15:18] <wrathchild9> i still have a problem, so made a threat on the ubuntuforums, could you check it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002706
[15:18] <Neaai> erUSUL: I see. Well I suspect that it can be an option in the kernel probably that prevents that in order to be rfc compliant. I know I'm willingly breaking some rfc here but I need it such. Interesting issue this one.
[15:18] <giganto> eltese, hey, video plays fine on mPlayer, but just the sound doesn't match up
[15:18] <rambo3> !docs SEF 1.5
[15:18] <Neaai> erUSUL: something that maybe 8.10 has active by default while 8.04 didn't.
[15:18] <ardaking> hi guys ! i have a problem regarding php...i have installed lamp with php, mysql and so on but when i open a php page from localhost firefox show a dialog box instead open it !
[15:19] <gribouille> I want to disable suspend and hibernate completely
[15:19] <dietwater> What's the package name for unsupported compiz plugins?  I'm looking for snow.
[15:19] <dietwater> ardaking: What kind of dialog?
[15:19] <ubu1>  i have installed etherape on a virtual guest ubuntu using virtualbox but the etherape crashs !!!!! :(
[15:19] <ardaking> the dialog to download a file
[15:19] <dietwater> Ah.
[15:19] <dietwater> go to localhost
[15:20] <dietwater> so in firefox, in address bar, type localhost
[15:20] <dietwater> then go to directory, file.
[15:20] <gribouille> hey, are you sleeping or what ?
[15:20] <ardaking> yes yes
[15:20] <lianimator> what is pdftotext? it's been taking up 50% CPU for a while now. 50% on a dual core CPU
[15:20] <paulo_> #ubuntu-es
[15:20] <dietwater> also go to file ->work offline and uncheck it
[15:20] <dietwater> that was a huge problem for me
[15:21] <ubu1> Please help :!!!
[15:21] <dietwater> If it asks to download the php file then either it isn't set up right or your not in localhost.
[15:21] <ardaking> can you repeat ?
[15:21] <ardaking> i'm at localhost
[15:21] <dietwater> first type in localhost
[15:21] <dietwater> then navigate to the file
[15:21] <ardaking> yes
[15:21] <ardaking> i have one file
[15:21] <gribouille> I want to disable suspend and hibernate completely
[15:22] <dietwater> so if you want /var/www/test/page.php, then type localhost/test/page.php
[15:22] <cutterjohn> ok it looked like my AC power management setting had been drastically changed somewhere along the line, kde install maybe, so I guess that'll get rid of the flipping to max brightness
[15:22] <cutterjohn> (gnome pref panel)
[15:23] <ardaking> when i digit http://localhost/testphp.php firefox tell me about download this file
[15:23] <ardaking> but don't open it
[15:26] <macpointman> hello
[15:26] <cutterjohn> why they hell do the remove kde instructions remove wine and octave and about half-a-ton of other useful non-desktop-specific related utilities and apps?
[15:26] <dwhsix> looking for some way to share screen view between ubuntu and mac over internet... thoughts? something free? or maybe very low cost?
[15:26] <macpointman> I am wondering if I can get sme Webcam help
[15:26] <daver> anyone here setup 8.10 on a PXE boot server before?
[15:27] <ikonia> |daver|: yup
[15:27] <Tetracomm> I am writing a program, and I want it to know when a USB device is plugged in, how do I check that?
[15:28] <|daver|> ikonia: i am getting an error saying it cant find root and droping me to a shell
[15:28] <|daver|> i have root=/dev/ram0
[15:28] <ikonia> |daver|: what are you actually trying to boot ?
[15:29] <macpointman> I am wondering if I can get some Webcam help
[15:29] <|daver|> 8.10
[15:29] <Bertan> Hello, wounder if anyone can help me. My desktop is messed of with files from folder /home/USER/. (Suppous to be /home/USER/Desktop
[15:29] <|daver|> i have the full ISO
[15:29] <|daver|> and i have a PXE server i use for RHEL
[15:29] <|daver|> and trying to put ubuntu on there
[15:29] <|daver|> it loaded the vmlinuz and initrd
[15:29] <cutterjohn> there's only one kde specifice octave packages and it's NOT a dependency for the rest of octave
[15:29] <cutterjohn> ...and wine has no kde dependency whatsoever...
[15:29] <|daver|> error says "gave up waiting for root device"
[15:29] <ikonia> |daver|: the live CD runs of sqash FS, so the squash fs needs to be uncompressed to use it
[15:30] <zamba> i need a odbc client for ubuntu..
[15:30] <Bertan> Anyone know what to do?
[15:30] <ikonia> |daver|: you shouldn't actually need to specify a "root" device, as the boot loader on the iso image should handle that
[15:30] <cutterjohn> mplayer also has no kde dependencies excepting for maybe an optional package somewhere(?)
[15:30] <|daver|> well when i dont i get the same error
[15:31] <cutterjohn> those remove kde instructions are like throwing the baby out with the bathwater
[15:31] <ikonia> |daver|: what pxe image are you using
[15:31] <|daver|> i got the default ISO and used the vmlinuz and initrd.gz off there
[15:31] <|daver|> do i need to use a different one?
[15:31] <ikonia> |daver|: they aren't pxe images
[15:31] <|daver|> oh
[15:31] <|daver|> i can do that with RHEL
[15:31] <ikonia> !pxe
[15:31] <ikonia> rat, I'm sure there is a factoid with a good url
[15:32] <krish> is there any alternative for adobe photoshop in ubuntu 8.10?
[15:32] <dft> krish: gimp
[15:32] <|daver|> gimp
[15:32] <thiebaude> hi ikonia
[15:33] <|daver|> ok i found the ftp with the netboot
[15:33] <ikonia> |daver|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer may help
[15:33] <krish> dft will i be able to design my own logos and website headers in gimp?
[15:33] <|daver|> thanks
[15:33] <ikonia> krish: yes
[15:34] <krish> ikonia is is there any tutorial in ubuntu community to help me use gimp
[15:34] <ikonia> krish: no, loads of info ont he grimp website
[15:34] <cutterjohn> thos remove kde instructions need to be move to community docs and reviewed as about half of what they remove does NOT need to be removed as the packages have ZERO KDE/Qt deps
[15:34] <krish> oh thanks a lot ikonia and dft
[15:35] <|daver|> cool that worked thanks!
[15:35] <thiebaude> !gimp
[15:35] <ikonia> |daver|: good man
[15:36] <Tomay>  I downloaded UBUNTU 8.10 DVD & burned it & when booting from the dvd an error message: as below
[15:36] <Tomay>  [xxx.xxxxxx] Buffer I/0 error on device sr0, logical block xxxxxx
[15:36] <Tomay>  Help me PLEASE :(
[15:36] <guest6294> I installed Ubuntu x64 Desktop Edition from an alternate install disk. Shortly after boot the system asks me if I want to use the Broadcom STA Wireless Driver. Obviously I do and I activate the driver. The trouble is that it does not work at all. Uninstalling the network manager, I connect manually, but I cannot set the MODE, always giving me an error. Another annoying issue is that the LED for the wireless is working in reverse, it's off when it's on, 
[15:37] <bytecode> Tomay: is it definitely a DVD? Because it's always been a CDROM  for me .....
[15:37] <ikonia> alternative CD is a CD, not a DVD
[15:38]  * Tomay slaps bytecode around a bit with a large trout
[15:39] <thiebaude> lol
[15:39] <Tomay> bytecode: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/dvd/
[15:39] <Tomay>  bytecode: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/dvd/
[15:39] <Sw4w> heelp me
[15:39] <Pici> !ask | Sw4w
[15:40] <Otacon22Laptop> I've a problem: i discharged my eeepc while i was installing a program with apt... now at the end of apt-get update i read this
[15:40] <Otacon22Laptop> http://rafb.net/p/mNqJGF90.html
[15:41] <Otacon22Laptop> (in italian)
[15:41] <Sw4w> how to install ubuntu  in new pc?i don't have the cd installation?
[15:41] <SlimeyPete> Sw4w: download the CD from the Ubuntu website.
[15:41] <thiebaude> Otacon22something about list i think
[15:42] <cutterjohn> actually about half the packages that don't need to be removed to remove kde/qt remove those packages in a half-***ed fashion too
[15:42] <cutterjohn> they leave 2/3 or more of the install behind
[15:42] <Neaai> erUSUL: I solved that routing issue. Apparently, adding the desired route via the nm-applet at topright of the screen doesn't work. I had to add it from the command line:     route add -net 169.254.0.0/16 gw <public.ip.of.gateway>
[15:42] <raul> i installed ubuntu and grub in the mbr .. now it says grub error 17
[15:42] <cutterjohn> e.g. doc, support files, extra libs, etc.
[15:42] <raul> just soon after installing
[15:43] <raul> why>
[15:43] <raul> ?
[15:43] <guest6294> can anyone recommend a good linux distro for a broadcom based wireless laptop, like acer aspire 5315? ubuntu has the wireless broadcom in this regard, broken
[15:43] <guest6294> Neaai, network manager is broken
[15:44] <cutterjohn> my favorite one, is that the KDE/Qt remove instruction, removes subversion?!
[15:44] <Neaai> guest6294: I hear the same thing from debian comuntiy as well. If the damned thing is broken can't it be replaced by some other util ?
[15:44] <cutterjohn> (but it leaves the docs and dev package behind)
[15:44] <andresmh> when clicking on the icon of one of my partitions, I get mount_point  cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[15:45] <andresmh> I went to gconf-editor and looked in System > Storage > volumes and there weren't any devices listed there
[15:45] <LjL> cutterjohn: which instructions are you referring to?
[15:45] <guest6294> Neaai, talk to those saints at the dev team, and ask them to fix the whireless troubles to, while your there ... heh
[15:46] <cutterjohn> LjL: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[15:46] <norbert79> Good day
[15:46] <cutterjohn> LjL: an imbecile wrote them out
[15:46] <cutterjohn> LjL: then I was a bigger imbecile for not vetting them first
[15:46] <raul> i get error grub error 17 soon after installing ubuntu
[15:47] <raul> i have a software raid sytem
[15:47] <ikonia> raul: what raid level
[15:47] <soulfringe> anyone know how i can disable this damned infernal touchpad on my eeePC 1000 w/ ubuntu 8.04 ?
[15:47] <raul> raid 0
[15:47] <ikonia> you can't have /boot on raid 0
[15:47] <raul> it's outside indeed
[15:48] <ikonia> raul: so you have a seperate /boot partition that is not on a raid device
[15:48] <Neaai> guest6294: you're right. It's sad to know that these things are fixed via hacks and then the same efforts put to this hacking could be spent to set the mechanism right once and then hold onto that standardised way.
[15:48] <LjL> cutterjohn: no imbecile wrote them, they're simply outdated
[15:48] <norbert79> soulfringe: Check your BIOS settings!
[15:48] <norbert79> soulfringe: You can disable it there
[15:48] <LjL> cutterjohn: they won't even *work* on my Hardy installation, because a lot of packages aren't installed to begin with
[15:48] <raul> ikonia right
[15:48] <cutterjohn> LjL: but a fair percentage of those packages NEVER had KDE/Qt deps EVER..
[15:48] <raul> and i have grub on mbr
[15:49] <ikonia> raul: and your raid devices are created with mdadm
[15:49] <raul> yes during debian installation
[15:49] <cutterjohn> LjL: and it still would've left behind pieces of a goodly number of packages as most have been broken down into sub packages for a while with no meta-package
[15:49] <guest6294> archlinux seems a good distro
[15:49] <ikonia> raul: your running debian ?
[15:49] <soulfringe> hurdd im rebooting now, thanks norbert\
[15:49] <norbert79> soulfringe: you are welcome
[15:49] <soulfringe> ack maasive typo
[15:50] <soulfringe> hard to type on this tiny thing without trying to get near the pad
[15:50] <LjL> !puregnome | cutterjohn
[15:50] <cutterjohn> LjL: e.g. ruby, ruby-dev, ruby-doc etc. but even then the meta package doesn't cover doc and dev
[15:50] <norbert79> soulfringe: Weird, I have no issues under 701
[15:50] <norbert79> soulfringe: Maybe thivk fingers? :)
[15:50] <raul> ikonia: yes
[15:50] <raul> i am running debian
[15:50] <ikonia> raul: then why are you asking in an #ubuntu channel
[15:51] <ikonia> raul: there is #debian for debian support
[15:51] <raul> oh tnx
[15:51] <Shred> hi
[15:51] <raul> isnt that the same installer?
[15:51] <Shred> Raff7
[15:51] <ikonia> raul: it doesn't matter
[15:51] <ikonia> raul: #debian is for debian support,
[15:51] <soulfringe> yea, big fingerd+ awkward positioning for me, since i usually rest my palms where the pad is
[15:52] <cutterjohn> LjL: well actually my main point was that it would've always left pieces behind AND it was purging apps that NEVER had anything to to with KDE/Qt, they were just pure CLI utils or X11 apps...
[15:52] <LjL> cutterjohn: you can see a list of what was removed if you do « grep remove /var/log/dpkg.log »
[15:52] <Spudina> lu
[15:52] <LjL> cutterjohn: so i removed it from the bot factoid.
[15:52] <cutterjohn> LjL:  I know, I'm in the process of putting back entirely non-KDE things like octave...
[15:53] <Guest66840> hi people, somebody solve the bug of usb 2.0 of ubuntu 8.10?
[15:53] <cutterjohn> LjL which would be one of my prime examples, true it has a Qt plot front end, but it OPTIONAL!
[15:53] <SID_seba> hi people, somebody solve the bug of usb 2.0 of ubuntu 8.10?
[15:53] <cutterjohn> LjL: ALWAYS has been... it's got about 5 other plotting front ends too...
[15:53] <ikonia> SID_seba: you just asked, ask a question then wait patiently for a response
[15:54] <cutterjohn> LjL:  I kind of wonder if that removal line was generated by a script...
[15:54] <SID_seba> ikonia: i know, just i change my nick
[15:54] <LjL> cutterjohn: i don't see octave in the list of those packages though, do you know what its removal is triggered by?
[15:54] <ikonia> SID_seba: we still saw your question
[15:55] <kennethgt> hi to all
[15:55] <a1len> Is it possible to change permissions for wine applications? How do I do it?
[15:55] <LjL> a1len: what do you mean? permissions to do what?
[15:56] <mphill> a1len: I think you would use the read bit since the wine is technically a wrapper
[15:56] <cutterjohn> LjL: It depends upon about 20 libraries just for th ebase package, so likely that line removed a dependent library truiggering it's removal as well then
[15:56] <ompaul> ikonia, * Received a CTCP VERSION from Shred (to #ubuntu)
[15:57] <kennethgt> someone has seen magicfab?
[15:57] <mphill> if you -r the .exe file they would not be able to run it
[15:57] <cutterjohn> LjL that web site ref needs to be removed as the dependencies are still off in removing non-KDE items
[15:57] <ikonia> ompaul: ta
[15:57] <a1len> I'm getting an error when I'm trying to run a program in wine that says '''failed adding SE_LOCK_MEMORY''' then it tells me to go to control panel and change something... but I have no control panel because this isn't windows.
[15:57] <LjL> cutterjohn, err, i've just removed it!
[15:57] <Neaai> ompaul: same. It was towards #ubuntu
[15:57] <LjL> !puregnome | cutterjohn, this doesn't mention it anymore, which is what i've been trying to say
[15:57] <LjL> cutterjohn: if it's in other places, then i don't know which
[15:58] <SlimeyPete> a1len: might be best to ask in #wine. Sounds like quite an obscure problem.
[15:58] <Tundrayeti311> a1len: What program? Is it listed in the Wine app db?
[15:58] <a1len> SlimeyPete: Alright! Thanks.
[15:58] <cutterjohn> ubottu: you gave me http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome in the firts place
[15:58] <cutterjohn> ubottu: I probably really just wanted the ubuntu-desktop package
[15:59] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything
[15:59] <LjL> a1len: you have some sort of control panel, it's "winecfg". no idea whether it'd do what you need though.
[15:59] <a1len> Tundrayeti311: No... lol.. I'm going through an emu thing right now... and the new pcsx2.. I can't get it to build from source correctly... and I don't know how to install the binary that I downloaded.
[15:59] <cutterjohn> LjL; wasn't sure if it really was a bot, but  it should have http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome removed from it's responses
[15:59] <LjL> cutterjohn: yes, I HAVE JUST REMOVED IT FROM ITS RESPONSES
[15:59] <zoopster> guest6294: what version?
[15:59] <benanzo> How can I make mail sent from root on my server say something other than 'root' in the From field?  For instance, I would like it to say the hostname instead
[16:00] <Tundrayeti311> a1len: um ok.. that really made no sense to me
[16:00] <kennethgt> ¬¬, someone has seen magicfab?
[16:00] <LjL> kennethgt: /whois magicfab
[16:01] <a1len> Tundrayeti311: Sorry about that.. I'm doing something half-arse because it's too hard to do correctly.
[16:01] <kennethgt> LjL, thanks for your answer
[16:01] <Tundrayeti311> a1len: np
[16:02] <cutterjohn> LjL: well thanks anyways, might be a good time to just try 64b again, as a new clean install might be easiest at this point
[16:02] <kennethgt> LjL, s part of canonical support and I need to communicate with him
[16:02] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything
[16:02] <kennethgt> LjL, his name is Fabian Rodrigez
[16:02] <LjL> kennethgt: join #ubuntu-irc please
[16:03] <kennethgt> ok
[16:03] <kennethgt> grax
[16:03] <kbrooks> Question
[16:03] <norbert79> kbrooks: Answer
[16:04] <mphill> norbert79: nice
[16:04] <mphill> i was going to do that
[16:04] <norbert79> mphill: Thank you, thank you
[16:04] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything
[16:04] <kbrooks> Will Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 work with Ubuntu?
[16:04] <norbert79> kbrooks: Why don't you just give it a try?
[16:05] <kbrooks> norbert79, Why don't you say "I don't know"
[16:05] <kbrooks> ?
[16:06] <meganox> !livecd | kbrooks
[16:06] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything
[16:06] <famast> hello.  I cannot ping ubuntu (ibex 8.10) from my windows machine. We are on the same network. I am trying to setup an apache server, and that does not seem to respond either
[16:06] <famast> any ideas why this may be happening?
[16:06] <norbert79> famast: Guess you have to work on your router settings first
[16:06] <ikonia> famast: what are the two ip addresses and subnet masks
[16:06] <mphill> famast: can you get out to the internet?
[16:07] <SID_seba> something related with my question ?
[16:07] <ikonia> mphill: what does that matter ?
[16:07] <kbrooks> Hmm.
[16:07] <mphill> mayne its the router, maybe a firewall
[16:07] <kbrooks> OK
[16:07] <mphill> its a simple test to see if he has connnecticity
[16:07] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything
[16:07] <mphill> thats why
[16:08] <ikonia> mphill: who says he's going through a router ? who says this network is on the internet ?
[16:08] <norbert79> guest6294: I guess you should be more specific on the model and the Ubuntu version you are running, and not repeating the same question over and over again...
[16:08] <meganox> kbrooks: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/48361
[16:08] <mphill> ikonia: that why i am asking questions. i'm not sitting on his fucking network.
[16:08] <kbrooks> meganox, ty
[16:08] <ikonia> mphill: mind your language
[16:08] <LjL> !language | mphill
[16:08] <ikonia> mphill: thats not called for
[16:09] <norbert79> guest6294: "My car is not working" is not a problem description
[16:09] <shausam27_> is there a fix for kbarcode label i updated to 8.04 now it prints in micro size  help!!!!!!!
[16:09] <kbrooks> mphill, language
[16:09] <meganox> kbrooks: np
[16:09] <norbert79> mphill: Watch the langugae please
[16:09] <famast> yes i can get on the internet. Thanks for your help guys I think its the router. My windows machine is on the wireless network. My ubuntu machine is on wired and wireless, pinging through the wireless works ok.
[16:09] <kbrooks> !intrepid
[16:09] <kbrooks> ah, 8.10
[16:09] <kbrooks> ok
[16:09] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything. My Broadcom is Broadcom 4311 running on an Ubuntu 8.10
[16:11] <guest6294> so ... can anyone help me set up my broadcom? I am running the default restricted driver Broadcom STA Wireless and I have trouble connecting to anything. My Broadcom is Broadcom 4311 running on an Ubuntu 8.10. I removed the buggy network manager, and for some arcane reason the wireless is detected as an eth1 instead of a wlan0 or something else. The interfaces file has the correct syntax for it.
[16:11] <radecek> hello
[16:12] <LjL> guest6294: and it refers to eth1 or wlan0?
[16:12] <meganox> guest6294: you could try wicd
[16:12] <meganox> !wicd | guest6294
[16:12] <guest6294> LjL, it is refered as eth1
[16:13] <guest6294> meganox: Yeah, I could, if I get my network up lol ...
[16:13] <meganox> guest6294: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[16:13] <meganox> guest6294: you are on irc, i assumed you were connected somehow ;)
[16:14] <LjL> guest6294: you could try renaming it (not sure it'd help). edit /etc/iftab and add:   wlan0 mac XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX    where the X's are your card's MAC address
[16:14] <guest6294> meganox, from another machine :)
[16:15] <Neaai> guest6294: I'd think it's correct the refference to eth1 and not wlan0
[16:15] <guest6294> LjL: another trouble is, if I include the auto eth1 stuff plus the dhcp stuff in my interfaces file, when I try to set the mode manually using iwconfig, it gives me SET failed on device, invalid argument error
[16:15] <wiehan> what is the quick and simple command to clear the font cache (or reload it) in ubuntu?
[16:15] <magnetron> !info wicd
[16:15] <guest6294> Neaai, I dont care how it's named really, i cant connect to anything
[16:15] <kbrooks> guest6294, how are you running iwconfig?
[16:16] <guest6294> kbrooks, as root in command line
[16:16] <guest6294> kbrooks iwconfig eth1 essid "blablabla" and then iwconfig eth1 mode Managed
[16:16] <radecek> my ubuntu is stop boot on 7 ports detected,  ... new hight speed usb.. Haw can I fix this? tkx :)
[16:16] <Neaai> guest6294: when "lspci | grep Broadcom" is it properly listed or has some word 'unknown' there ?
[16:16] <LjL> wiehan: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" or "sudo fc-cache -f -v"
[16:17] <wiehan> LjL: THANKS a million
[16:17] <guest6294> Neaai: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[16:17] <Neaai> that's correct all right.
[16:18] <DarkKnight> hey how can we forcefully mount a drive
[16:19] <ratpoison> hello! pulseaudio server keeps crashing, Intrepid amd64 user. What to do?
[16:19] <guest6294> well, it is correct, the trouble is ... I dunno, even the LEDS are working in reverse, when the led is off the wireless works and vice versa
[16:19] <mphill> DarkKnight: -f is the force parameter, but if it won't mount it won't mount.
[16:19] <guest6294> and I cant afford a macbook so im stuck with this broadcom crap
[16:19] <DarkKnight> mphill; so wats th exact command
[16:20] <mphill> mount -f device target
[16:20] <mphill> or man mount
[16:20] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: what are you trying to mount?
[16:21] <DarkKnight> patpoison; i have 2 HDD.. one is installed with XP...Xp crashed...and ther are some files on desktop..which i have to get back
[16:21] <guest6294> so, no one can help eh?
[16:21] <Neaai> guest6294: This might be useful to you:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2431305#post2431305
[16:22] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: For ease of use, try typing part of my nick and pressing tab, so that I can tell when you speak to me
[16:22] <guest6294> Neaai: then why the hell those people use an official broadcom driver?
[16:23] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: now, first create a temporary folder in /media or /mnt for example, /media/tempdisk
[16:23] <mphill> DarkKnight: why are you trying to force the mount? you don't have to do that.  is the try NTFS or FAT32?
[16:23] <mphill> s/try/drive
[16:24] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: this is done with $ sudo mkdir /media/tempdisk
[16:24] <pelle2> inget resultat.. hmm
[16:25] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: then it's $ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<appropriate_device_name> /media/tempdisk -f
[16:25] <Neaai> guest6294: I believe the results vary on a combination of facts, not only the wireless interface manufacturer. As in chipset/processor too. I've had the same sort of isues with Atheros. One intel laptop used it fine, another that was amd64 didn't use it unless I messed with it for a while and compiled the module myself.
[16:25] <n0yd> Does the 8.10 kernel have ext4 support (experimental) built in or would that require a recompile?
[16:26] <mphill> ratpoison: XP can also be fat32.  But it is probably ntfs if he is having issues mounting.
[16:26] <DarkKnight> mphill; i m not sure bcoz i installed XP long time back...most probably shld be NTFS
[16:26] <mphill> n0yd: I do not believe so, mkfs.ext4 is there but you can not mount
[16:26] <mphill> DarkKnight: then do what ratpoison said
[16:26] <n0yd> K, just curious
[16:26] <n0yd> Thx
[16:27] <ratpoison> mphill: you're right DarkKnight: check your System > Admin > Partition Editor and see what type is your partition
[16:27] <mphill> ratpoison: I don't think gparted is installed by default
[16:27] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: if such an entry doesn't exist, first do a sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:28] <bor1> I get the error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libsasl2-2" when trying to upgrade hardy -> intrepid.. how to fix?
[16:28] <L0neWolf> Can anyone recommend a small and relatively easy to configure file server application?  I'm having trouble sending files to someone over IM and it's a quick fix
[16:28] <linux1> :) afternoon ppl
[16:28] <mphill> bor1: from the command like try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:28] <vignesh> why is alien an administrative application ?? :o
[16:28] <mphill> s/like/line
[16:28] <L0neWolf> linux1, hola
[16:29] <bor1> mphill: that's on sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s
[16:29] <mphill> vignesh: install fakeroot and do fakeroot alient debian_file.deb
[16:30] <mphill> vignesh: alien makes me weep
[16:30] <afief> Does anybody know how to make Audacity play sounds right now it keeps telling me that there is an error opening the sound device...
[16:30] <Dist-> using the command line, how do i move all files at one location, to inside a folder thats at the same location as those files?
[16:30] <vignesh> mphill, why is it an administrative app ?? it is just to generate a deb... cant a normal user do that...
[16:30] <vignesh> mphill, it does make me weep too :-(
[16:30] <L0neWolf> Can anyone recommend a small and relatively easy to configure www accessible file server application?
[16:30] <ne2k__> Dist-: just mv * subdir/; it will give a warning saying "cannot move subdir into itself" but it doesn't matter -- it does what you want
[16:31] <ratpoison> vignesh: and creating packages isn't an admin task? then what is?
[16:31] <mphill> vignesh: I think it tries to install it system wide at the of te conversion, just run it in fakeroot
[16:31] <ratpoison> vignesh: it's not as simple as you might think!
[16:31] <vignesh> ratpoison, probably..!!
[16:31] <DarkKnight> mphill, ratpoison; its ntfs..
[16:32] <mphill> DarkKnight: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[16:32] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: if you have internet access to either end then why not just use ssh?
[16:32] <guest6294> any way to install wicd on ubuntu 8.10? apt get does not find it
[16:32] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: if you're both behind nat then a web server won't help you
[16:32] <DarkKnight> mphill; that is installed
[16:32] <L0neWolf> ne2k__, I can but I'm trying to get a file to a non-tech savvy friend and this is easier.  IM isn't working
[16:32] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: e-mail?
[16:33] <L0neWolf> ne2k__, ISO images
[16:33] <L0neWolf> :)
[16:33] <c0d3dm1nd> Hi, I was wondering if anybody knew how people could write a website to index .torrent files.... how to index data from others trackers
[16:33] <paul68> !cloning > paul68
[16:33] <ratpoison> DarkKnight: then do as prompted earlier
[16:33] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: do you have a public IP or the ability to do destination nat on your router?
[16:33] <mphill> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/[insert hard drive device here] /mnt/[target location here]
[16:33] <meganox> guest6294: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php instructions to add wicd repos there
[16:33] <sdubois92> how can i see what modules are currently being used?
[16:33] <Kelmi> join #zymosis
[16:33] <ne2k__> sdubois92: lsmod
[16:34] <L0neWolf> ne2k__, I can forward to my IP from the router, I can do it in Windows easily enough but I'm new to Linux
[16:34] <SlimeyPete> c0d3dm1nd: trackers communicate via http so I think you can just send a list request of some kind and then parse the response. You'd be better off asking in a web programming channel though.
[16:34] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: install one of the http servers then and forward port 80 to your box through your router
[16:34] <c0d3dm1nd> SlimeyPete: Thanks!
[16:34] <L0neWolf> ne2k__, is there one you'd recommend in particular?
[16:34] <vignesh> L0neWolf, apache
[16:34] <meganox> L0neWolf: yousendit.com, megaupload.com
[16:35] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: haven't used anything other than apache but it's a bit heavyweight for your needs. try lighttpd, boa or fnord
[16:35] <L0neWolf> meganox, they'd see it as illegal, it isn't but they'd see it that way
[16:36] <L0neWolf> ne2k__, alright, I'll give it a look.  if all else fails I can always go back to windows and IIS  *shudders*
[16:36] <meganox> L0neWolf: fair use, i getcha ;)
[16:36] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: I don't really know what the advantages and disadvantages of each are, I'm afraid.
[16:36] <reqqit> why is nautilus so slow? it takes almost half a second to show ANY folder. /home for instance contains two users, it takes about 700ms to show the two folders, why?
[16:36] <mphill> ne2k__, L0neWolf also look at cherokee, I saw that on the the web yesterday.  Even have a mac like web gui for adminstration.
[16:36] <c0d3dm1nd> SlimeyPete: Do you know if I can find any documentation about the type of requests I can make to a http/UDP tracker?
[16:36] <L0neWolf> meganox, not quite  :P  but close enough.
[16:37] <L0neWolf> mphill, ok will do, thank you  :)
[16:37] <reqqit> Does anyone else see a delay in showing files in every nautilus folder? even those with zero or one files?
[16:37] <reqqit> *&$*&$*& it, thunar doesn't have this problem
[16:37] <SlimeyPete> c0d3dm1nd: not off the top of my head, no, sorry
[16:37] <nil> hi!
[16:38] <zleap> hi
[16:38] <reqqit> I am using thunar - everyone see if there is a tiny delay in files appearing when you show folders, it became maddening.
[16:38] <pLr> how can i get the mirror list from synaptic through the command line?
[16:38] <guest6294> meganox: followed the instruction, does not work
[16:38] <SlimeyPete> pLr: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:38] <ne2k__> L0neWolf: cherokee sounds reasonable too. I'd start with fnord and see how you go.
[16:38] <nil> my keyboard is layout is broken by intrepid, cf bug 255008
[16:38] <pronoy> how do i download gnome 2.4 on kubuntu 8.10 and ultimately remove kde ?
[16:38] <SlimeyPete> pLr: oh, you mean available mirrors? I'm not sure of that
[16:38] <nil> i try sudo setxkbmap -model evdev -layout jp -variant 106
[16:39] <DRebellion> pronoy, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <nil> but there still are some bad keys
[16:39] <pLr> SlimeyPete: this does not have all mirrors, it only contains the ones already selected
[16:39] <DRebellion> pronoy, make sure stuff works, then, sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <ne2k__> pronoy: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <nil> anyone there using a japanese keyboard?
[16:39] <L0neWolf> ne2k__, yeah I'm gonna take a look at cherokee and fnord then work up  :)
[16:39] <pLr> nil: #ubuntu-jp
[16:39] <ne2k__> pronoy: be warned, it will take quite a while
[16:39] <root2> exit
[16:39] <nil> pLr: in english?
[16:40] <orochi_> hello :> i first tried intrepid when it came out but there were a number of show-stopper bugs in the final release (one was that you couldn't eject a cd/dvd without the drive closing itself up again :<) Have any of these more serious problems been resolved yet?
[16:40] <nil> pLr: (my japanese encoding stuff is also broken)
[16:40] <orochi_> i'd like to be able to use ubuntu as my primary desktop os again :>
[16:40] <ne2k__> nil: 私は日本語を話すことができない。
[16:40] <pLr> nil: Join the #ubuntu-jp channel they are more likely to be of help
[16:40] <pLr> how can i get the mirror list from synaptic through the command line?
[16:40] <mphill> L0neWolf: i've never used cherokee, bit it looked really interesting.  make sure you have php5-cgi installed if you plan to use php since there is no php mod (everyone use uses cgi or fastcgi)
[16:41] <nil> ne2k__: ne2k__ I can't type in japanese (i I don't speak japanese se well, also)
[16:41] <nil> well, let's try -jp; thanks
[16:41] <[c0re]> can anyone tell me where to get emerald theme repo?
[16:41] <L0neWolf> mphill, I don't think I'll need that, it's just to host an ISO for a non-tech friend who wouldn't understand FTP
[16:42] <mphill> L0neWolf: you are set then, just copy the file to /var/www/ and removed the index.html that is the simplest thing you can do.
[16:42] <pLr> how can i get the mirror list from synaptic through the command line?
[16:42] <Dist-> my ubuntu desktop has 2 screens which i can change between, is there any way i can set up an independant wallpaper for each one? or preferably have a single wallpaper that goes across from one to the other?
[16:43] <bor1> When running 'apt-get dist-upgrade -s' (hardy -> intrepid), I get the error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libsasl2-2". Ideas?
[16:43] <pLr> bor1: try upgrading from the add/remove programs tool
[16:43] <zlodei> как запустить убунту под рутом
[16:43] <L0neWolf> mphill, yeah  :)  thanks for the suggestion, cherokee does look interesting too
[16:43] <zlodei> ?
[16:43] <zlodei> подскажите пли
[16:43] <zlodei> з
[16:43] <FloodBot2> zlodei: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <LjL> !ru | zlodei
[16:44] <bor1> pLr: I did, it stopped in the middle of trying to upgrade; I'm assuming for the same reason
[16:44] <NicEXE> ubuntu can't download a file with a link similar to that --> http://rapidshare.com..... unless I modify the link to http://www.rapidshare.com...... How can I fix it? it's really annoying trying to download around 50 files at the time using windows on Virtual Box...
[16:45] <meganox> orochi_: is Hardy no good for you?
[16:45] <pLr> NicEXE: just add it to your /etc/hosts file
[16:45] <pLr> how can i get the mirror list from synaptic through the command line?
[16:45] <pronoy> DRebellion: is it possible stuff won't work ?!?!
[16:45] <pronoy> ne2k_:gotcha
[16:45] <NicEXE> pLr: how to do that?
[16:45] <pronoy> D
[16:45] <mchelen> NicEXE, try drop.io or some other site
[16:46] <pronoy> DRebellion: and is kde better or gnome ?
[16:46] <nil> ne2k__: you have a jp keyboard? os just a classic us version?
[16:46] <j2daosh> ok, where do i need to go to get my atheros working? i already have the drivers downloaded, made, and installed... but i still cant connect to wireless networks
[16:46] <DRebellion> pronoy, i personally use gnome, but this is a matter of opinion
[16:46] <pLr> NicEXE: echo "www.rapidshare.com     rapidshare.com" >> /etc/hosts
[16:46] <ne2k__> nil: I have a GB keyboard
[16:46] <apelW> how do I use a public key to login to a server? do I need to add command line parametres to ssh?
[16:47] <pronoy> DRebellion: also...when they say intrepid is not a long terms support version...what do they mean ?
[16:47] <kpuljek> i need help disabling the screensaver in ubuntu. i disabled it in screensaver settings, xscreensaver settings, i disabled it in the gconf-editor, i prevented it's processes to start, i checked the box in all of my players to disable the screensaver, and it still goes blank after 10 minutes :|
[16:47] <pLr> NicEXE: then repeat your test
[16:47] <pLr> pronoy: ubuntu has LTS and non LTS, go to ubuntu.com to read about LTS
[16:47] <zleap> kpuljek: that could be a power saving thing for the monitor
[16:47] <apelW> how do I use a public key to login to a server? do I need to add command line parametres to ssh?
[16:47] <DRebellion> pronoy, long term support (LTS) releases are officially supported with security/bug fixes for much longer than non-LTS releases
[16:47] <nil> ne2k__: yep, US/GB, OK
[16:47] <NicEXE> pLr: type that to my terminal?
[16:47] <pLr> NicEXE: yes
[16:47] <kpuljek> zleap: it's not. that i disabled and it didn't do any more problems, this is a screensaver
[16:47] <rootrot> gvfsd-burn keeps crashing when i use it,could someone suggest another method for buring an iso to cd?
[16:48] <meganox> pronoy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[16:48] <shiMMer> i set wallpaper on my fluxbox but it not work after i restart.
[16:48] <zleap> ok
[16:48] <mphill> apelW: ssh-keygen -b 2048 -t rsa
[16:48] <kek> what's the proper way to prevent a module from being loaded (or remove it) at startup?
[16:48] <zleap> hmm
[16:48] <kek> kernel module
[16:48] <apelW> mphill:  I know. I mean when I want to connect with that
[16:48] <mphill> apelW: then copy .ssh/id_rsa.pub to the host's .ssh/authorized_keys
[16:48] <pLr> how can i get the mirror list from synaptic through the command line?
[16:48] <pronoy> DRebellion: so would it be advisable to install intrepid ?
[16:48] <NicEXE> pLr: permission denied
[16:48] <DRebellion> pronoy, i would recommend intrepid
[16:48] <pLr> NicEXE: add sudo before the command
[16:49] <mphill> apelW: then you will be in ssh key bliss
[16:49] <NicEXE> pLr: i did
[16:49] <Neaai> pLr: of what's available or what you are using currently ?
[16:49] <Pici> pLr, NicEXE: You can't use IO redirection with sudo directly, so do something like: echo "text" | sudo tee -a /path/to/file   instead
[16:49] <pLr> Neaai: available
[16:49] <pronoy> DRebellion: but it won't be supported for long ?!
[16:50] <guest6294> what's the "Default" wireless connection always appearing in ubuntu? For some strange reason, although I broadcast my network name, it is not see, any other network in the neighborhood is seen
[16:50] <DarkKnight> ratpoison; its not working that way...
[16:50] <pLr> Pici: yes im aware thx
[16:50] <DRebellion> pronoy, not as long as the LTS releases, but then you can just update to 9.04 (jaunty) when it comes out! ;)
[16:51] <pronoy> DRebellion: yeah...i guess....thanks for support
[16:51] <PeskyJ> I've installed mplayer and ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can't play DVDs - mplayer just goes black and unresponsive - is there another package to install?
[16:51] <pLr> NicEXE: here it is : sudo echo "www.rapidshare.com    rapidshare.com" | tee -a /etc/hosts
[16:51] <Neaai> pLr: I doubt there's such a thing. Mirror lists can change everyday so your best bet is to check the webpage, or some convention as in:   deb http://XX.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[16:51] <pLr> NicEXE: here it is : sudo echo "www.rapidshare.com    rapidshare.com" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[16:51] <DarkKnight> mphill; its not working that way
[16:52] <Neaai> pLr: where XX are the country codes of the mirror: it, de, au, etc.
[16:52] <mphill> what is the error, msg me
[16:52] <pLr> Neaai: when using synaptic under repositories you can choose a list of mirrors, i want to find the file that contains this list
[16:52] <bor1> (hardy -> intrepid upgrade) ﻿When running 'apt-get dist-upgrade -s' (hardy -> intrepid), I get the error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libsasl2-2". The update-manager graphical tool doesn't work either, possibly for the same reason. apt-get install libsasl2-2 fails with the same error. Ideas?
[16:53] <rootrot> how do i run a .sh file?
[16:54] <meganox> rootrot: chmod a+x script.sh
[16:54] <kebomix> hello , i have boot sector virus and i cant install even Ubuntu and Windows Xp , any Solutions  that ?
[16:54] <meganox> rootrot: to mark it executable
[16:55] <DarkKnight> hey how can we forcefully mount a drive
[16:55] <pLr> bor1: apt-get remove libsasl2; apt-get install libsasl2   .. then retest
[16:55] <meganox> rootrot: then run it by name
[16:55] <meganox> rootrot: e.g. /path/to/script.sh
[16:55] <mphill> rootrot: or sh script_name.sh
[16:55] <pLr> when using synaptic under repositories you can choose a list of mirrors, where is the file that contains this list???
[16:55] <mphill> rootrot: or sh ./script_name.sh rather
[16:55] <rootrot> meganox: david@IceWeasel:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x URT41.sh
[16:55] <rootrot> david@IceWeasel:~/Desktop$ URT41.sh
[16:55] <rootrot> bash: URT41.sh: command not found
[16:55] <rootrot>  
[16:55] <cutterjohn> LjL:  well I wrote a script to drag out all that had been removed, then compared it with partial packages and manually looked over it for other missing items instead of completely re-installing
[16:55] <FloodBot2> rootrot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <bor1> pLr: I thought of that; apt depends on libsasl2, though, so it's not the best solution :)
[16:56] <rootrot> nm i gots it
[16:56] <Neaai> pLr: I can't find anything about that. I know what you mean, i just don't know where that list is stored.
[16:56] <Maizcul> Hey hey
[16:56] <apelW> mphill:  ok. then what do I do? ssh -Y "hostname" ?
[16:56] <LjL> cutterjohn: good idea
[16:56] <cutterjohn> LjL: all seems to be goodish again... but ... er.. unclean... but I guess it was a couple days after install anyways
[16:56] <pLr> Neaai: yeah I think i need a developer
[16:57] <cutterjohn> LjL: also saw the weirdest CPU scaling behavior, manually look at procinfo, the 2 CPUs were listed at running at different speeds... I didn't know that, that was even possible
[16:57] <xteejx> ! lunt | DarkKnight
[16:57] <xteejx> !mount | DarkKnight
[16:57] <LjL> cutterjohn: i think it is, i've seen evidence of that happening on my eeepc
[16:57] <mphill> apelW: no need for -Y should just be automatic
[16:57] <Maizcul> Anyone help me out with keyboard issues?
[16:57] <xteejx> maybe not
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> pLr do you mean /etc/apt/sources.list   ?
[16:58] <cutterjohn> LjL: the N10j or the original Eee?
[16:58] <LjL> cutterjohn: an EeePC 901
[16:58] <cutterjohn> LjL: SSD?
[16:58] <pLr> when using synaptic under repositories you can choose a list of all mirrors, where is the file that contains this list???
[16:58] <LjL> cutterjohn: yes, with Atom processor
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> pLr do you mean /etc/apt/sources.list   ?
[16:58] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow:not sources.list
[16:58] <cutterjohn> LjL: yeah, the N270, they all pretty much come withthat now
[16:58] <apelW> mphill:  ok. ssh hostname.domainname didn't work from the linux computer. but it still works from the windows computer.
[16:58] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: it does not contain all ubuntu mirrors
[16:58] <LjL> cutterjohn: well, the 900 is still sold with a Celeron
[16:58] <Maizcul> I'm on a Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP laptop from 2004, trying to get the "fn" key working so I can do things like "fn"+"F4" for volume up.
[16:59] <apelW> do I have to make a new key or does it work for both?
[16:59] <Maizcul> I have absolutely no idea how to go about getting it to work :(
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> pLr since anyone can create a mirror I doubt you will find a list like that
[16:59] <cutterjohn> LjL: yep, plus there's one thats based on a Via C7M or something too, but not Asus
[16:59] <LjL> cutterjohn: yes, the HP MiniNote if i'm not mistaken
[16:59] <kebomix> hello , i have bad sector virus on my hard disk MBR , and i cant install ubuntu ? !!!! any solutions ?
[16:59] <LjL> cutterjohn: anyway, the Atom presents itself as dual-core, and my scaling applets often showed different speeds - although it might just be the applets' fault
[16:59] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: I have already found the list within the GUI of synaptic.. I want to find the file that has this list
[17:00] <cutterjohn> LjL: might be, but I ws thinking about a Japanese one (tiny company) has a PowerVR based GPU integrated (Via)
[17:00] <cutterjohn> LjL: Chrome9 maybe?
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> pLr can you direct me to the part of synaptic you are refering to..
[17:00] <LjL> cutterjohn: don't know about that
[17:01] <pronoy> DRebellion: where are all the softwares installed...i mean which folder...e.g /etc ?
[17:01] <cutterjohn> LjL: so how is the Eee?
[17:01] <pLr> bor1: you can remove libsasl2-2 i just tested it, it will remove other progs you must take note of and reinstall also, then continue should work... or try apt-get check
[17:01] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: yes.. loading synaptic 1 sec
[17:01] <DRebellion> pronoy, software is spread around the file system, for example /etc/ contains configuration files.
[17:01] <cutterjohn> LjL: do you really get TONs of battery life?
[17:01] <elad`> How do I get the man files for C/C++ installed?
[17:01] <apelW> mphill:  can I use the same key for two clients?
[17:01] <LjL> cutterjohn: slightly more than 5 hours with wifi enabled (and nothing else enabled)
[17:02] <mphill> apelW: yes
[17:02] <LjL> elad`: sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[17:02] <apelW> hmm
[17:02] <pronoy> DRebellion: so during installation which folder needs to be alloted maximum space....if needed ?
[17:02] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: Settings -> Repositories -> click on the Download From: drop down -> Choose Other... -> this is the list
[17:02] <mphill> teh client get the file .ssh/id_rsa the server gets .ssh/authorized_hosts
[17:02] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: i just need it from the cli
[17:02] <DRebellion> pronoy, i don't understand what you're asking?
[17:02] <cutterjohn> LjL: how is it when you are putting more stress on the machine? i.e. ever tried to compile any packages while onbattery?
[17:02] <apelW> mphill:  and I just need it to have that name and to be in .ssh? ( mphill )
[17:02] <elad`> Thanks.
[17:03] <mphill> i think you can even use GNOME's seahorse to do all this graphically.
[17:03] <n0yd> mphill, btw, ext4 works fine on default kernel, I tested
[17:03] <n0yd> mphill, no gnome mount though, gotta manual mount
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pLr I am on an older release atm that does not have that..  Let me look at something for a sec.
[17:03] <Maizcul> Anyone got any ideas on how to get "Fn" key working?
[17:03] <pronoy> DRebellion: because...last time i alloted 10 gigs just to /home...a new portion altogether...just thought all the softwares are installed there
[17:03] <LjL> cutterjohn: i have compiled some stuff but never really did any benchmarking
[17:04] <Forge__> Hi.  I am trying to open an X11 session between my Ubuntu desktop and a Sun server.  On the server side the comand was simply "# export DISPLAY=mydesktopip:0.0".  I don't know what to do at the desktop end thogh.  Any ideas?
[17:04] <mphill> n0yd: freal? I must have tested it in an alpha release.  I am going to format my USB drive to ext4 to be uber l33t now.
[17:04] <n0yd> Whats the preferred method of copying my / partition to another drive besides using dd which would require me to use a live cd so both volumes wouldnt be online
[17:04] <cutterjohn> LjL: hmmm...  I think that I'm going to hold off on a fallback long batt life portable then... want to see if anyone else releases one with discrete GPUs and maybe the N330...
[17:04] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[17:04] <DRebellion> pronoy, /home is just for per-user configuration, and user's files like music and videos
[17:04] <bor1> pLr: no, I'm pretty sure it's not okay to remove it
[17:05] <meganox> pronoy: most software is installed in /usr
[17:05] <pLr> bor1: did u try apt-get check
[17:05] <LjL> n0yd: it can be "online" (mounted). it just needs to be mounted read-only. that can be done from recovery mode.
[17:05] <pronoy> DRebellion: ok...so /usr it is :)
[17:05] <Maizcul> I can't use scroll lock without Fn Key >.<
[17:05] <mphill> n0yd: as far is know dd is what you use for block copying.  Or if you want use tar -cf backup.tar /path/to/drive/
[17:05] <bor1> pLr: it doesn't report any problems
[17:06] <scientes> is there anyway to unlock the cursor
[17:06] <cutterjohn> LjL:  I made some progress on my LCD resolutions, but I still don't have the proper synch/refresh rates, but now instead of staying comletely black I can see that it looks like it tries to switch res but doesn't quite work, so I suspect refresh/synch values... waiting to hear back from mfg about LCD panel data
[17:06] <cutterjohn> LjL: plus another problem
[17:06] <scientes> i was moving a gnome-panel and it locked my cursor so i couldnt release or clock on anything
[17:06] <scientes> and i had to restart everything and kill my session from the command line
[17:06] <pLr> bor1: you have to remove and reinstall them, i just did it, it works, apt-get install ubuntu-minimal gnupg libcurl3-gnutls libldap-2.4-2 ubuntu-keyring  <-- After reinstalling libsasl2-2
[17:06] <scientes> as it was about to log me out cause i pressed ctrl-alt-deleate
[17:07] <cutterjohn> LjL: and I added my data to the EDID parse failure bug in launchpad
[17:07] <scientes> i just lost everything
[17:08] <rich_> good morning, good afternoon, good evening and goodnight to all
[17:08] <rich_> does anyone know to alt control delete for vmware server 2 in ubuntu from a macbook pro?
[17:08] <bor1> pLr: "apt-get --reinstall install libsasl2-2" gives me the same error
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> pLr I did not drop you , I brought up a release with that and I am using synaptic to look at properties in the synaptic install to see if I spot it.
[17:09] <Chun> Having a bit of trouble creating an ad-hoc wireless network in 8.10; I've been using 'create new wireless network' -- it seems to try to connect for 10 seconds, then errors: This network connection has been disconnected
[17:09] <kapipi> Is there any place I can post screendumps easily (im thinking of something similar to pastebin)?
[17:09] <Maizcul> tinypic.com
[17:10] <pLr> Jack_Sparrow: thank you
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:12] <Tetracomm> Is there any fingerprint reader software for Ubuntu?
[17:12] <Maizcul> Anyone that could prehaps help with my laptop keyboard issue?
[17:13] <ryuuzaki> hi
[17:13] <shiMMer> my wallpaper not work more on fluxbox after i restart.how can i set it to "remember"??
[17:13] <ryuuzaki> it's my firsttime on irc
[17:13] <ryuuzaki> :)
[17:13] <nil> state 0x0, keycode 97 (keysym 0x5c, backslash)
[17:13] <nil> state 0x0, keycode 51 (keysym 0x5c, backslash)
[17:13] <nil> well, 2 different keycodes, same keysym
[17:13] <pronoy> ryuuzaki: hi :)
[17:13] <nil> it's the kind of thing I should fix with xmodmap?
[17:14] <blip-> hi, my laptop volume buttons (as well as volume buttons of an external keyboard) both jump up in down in increments of 10%... can it be adjusted somehow such that it uses 5%  ?  thanks
[17:14] <Maizcul> apt-get ubergeektofixmynix
[17:15] <outoftime> hi all - i'm trying to install alsa drivers from source, and it says for my kernel version i need to specify the kernel build dir when i configure - but i have no idea what that dir is. any help?
[17:15] <Maizcul> blip-: at least yours work!
[17:15] <Maizcul> Mine just flat out refuse.
[17:15] <Maizcul> I don't think ubuntu even recognises that i've pressed the FN key
[17:16] <mphill> Maizcul: what chipset?
[17:16] <blip-> Maizcul: my Dell buttons are on the laptop directly , dedicated.  no fn access
[17:16] <Maizcul> Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP
[17:17] <Maizcul> Is there any other information I coul
[17:17] <Maizcul> could give that would help*
[17:18] <fatihcmc> slm
[17:18] <Mohero> hi all
[17:18] <Kirdaiht> hello, i have an problem with the instalation of ubunu. somewhere after the first screen i get some kind of terminal.
[17:18] <mphill> try lspci from the command line
[17:18] <Lo_> Any good site/facility/app accessible from ubuntu to assess ADSL internet connection speed?
[17:18] <outoftime> can anyone tell me how to find my kernel build dir?
[17:19] <Maizcul> speedtest.net
[17:19] <Mohero> firefox has just stopped loading after a system lockup, it tells me it is already running, anyone know how to sort this/where it keeps its PID file ?
[17:19] <pLr> outoftime: check the master kernel thread on the ubuntu forums
[17:19] <outoftime> pLr: will do - thank you!
[17:19] <Lo_> Maizcul, Thanks.
[17:19] <Maizcul> No problem :)
[17:19] <bor1> Mohero: ~/.mozilla/firefox/[something].default/.parentlock
[17:20] <mphill> Mohero: thats a common issue for me.  add the system monitor to your gnome bar, then click it once and go to process.  find firefox and kill it
[17:20] <mphill> or killall -9 firefox
[17:21] <bitmonk> hello, i installed Intrepid into a Xen VM as normal, using the server iso, and then reconfigured the Xen VM to be paravirtualized.  The system boots and network services, including ssh, work fine, but I have no login prompt on the xen console after service start messages complete, and wonder if the newer kernel may want different options than those suggested at http://community.citrix.com/blogs/citrite/anilma/2008/07/02/Installing+Ubun
[17:21] <Mohero> mphill: no, it's not actually running, the system has been rebooted 2 or 3 times
[17:21] <Maizcul> Any ideas on my "Fn" key then?
[17:22] <maximilian-schro> hi. i have a problem installing ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop. the installation process cant create a filesystem. i tried to do a filesytem manualy with a qtparted live cd aswell, but no luck. any hint for me?
[17:22] <Maizcul> I don't think ubuntu recognises it being pressed, or it does and it ignores it. e.g. in keyboard shortcuts I can't do anything using "fn"+"Z" because it doesn't put down the "Fn" bit
[17:22] <mgolisch> maximilian-schro: whats the error you get?
[17:23] <pLr> Maizcul: system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[17:23] <sachael> I'm looking for a gtk program similar to the kde BasKet notepad (I already know about notecase)?
[17:23] <pLr> maximilian-schro: you need to shut down your windows properly
[17:23] <maximilian-schro> i dont have windows
[17:24] <maximilian-schro> i had ubuntu 8.10 server installed on it previously
[17:24] <mgolisch> maximilian-schro: again whats the error?
[17:24] <slayton> sachael, what is basket/
[17:24] <slayton> ?
[17:24] <sachael> slaytanic, a note taking app
[17:24] <maximilian-schro> mgolisch,  let me check this. one mooent please. i force the error again
[17:24] <nil> sachael: tomboy?
[17:25] <sachael> nil, tomboy isn't hierarchical? :(
[17:25] <nil> sachael: it's a note-taking / post-it / desktop wiki app
[17:25] <mgolisch> you can build a hierachy on the start note and link to the other notes
[17:25] <mgolisch> or something
[17:25] <nil> sachael: with the concept of notebooks (i level hierarchy)
[17:25] <mgolisch> like a wiki
[17:26] <mgolisch> its quite useful, i love tomboy
[17:26] <mgolisch> :9
[17:26] <sachael> well, there is Notecase, which actually does what i want, but it looks hideous...
[17:27] <nil> mgolisch: i also loge tomboy, i store there "everything i don't want to loose"
[17:27] <E4emacs4> Kjots is a nice note taking app too if you don't mind a few KDE libs
[17:27] <nil> s/loge/love/
[17:28] <AdamDV> Hello, how do I install tw cen mt font in ubuntu?
[17:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Is anyone using an Hauppauge WinTV HVR-4000 with Intrepid? I need some comparision info.
[17:29] <erythrocyte> has any one here noticed problems installing addons for firefox from the mozilla website today? i've been having trouble all day
[17:29] <Maizcul> Have you tried multiple addons?
[17:30] <Mohero> bor1: thanks, that fixed my issue,  turnes out it had mounted /home in read only mode too.
[17:30] <erythrocyte> Maizcul: yes...and all of them never seem to download
[17:30] <sysdoc> erythrocyte, I just installed an addon with no issues
[17:31] <erythrocyte> sysdoc: ok then..it must be a local network issue or something
[17:31] <aboSamoor> Hi, I am trying to boot ubuntu live cd, but I got many squashfs read errors, I checked the CD and it has no errors ! any idea ?
[17:31] <erythrocyte> sysdoc: Maizcul: thanks anyway
[17:32] <Maizcul> Sorry I couldn't help anymore.
[17:32] <guest6294> im using wicd to connect wirelessly, however when I enable the encryption options, although I give the correct key, it will not authenticate, I have read something about wpa_supplicant, is it installed by default in ubuntu 8.10?
[17:32] <assem> was playing with screensaver themes and i thought i should report that, "colorfire" among a few others, races my CPU usage to 60%+ for both cores and I hear a high pitch whistle coming from my computer...
[17:32] <Maizcul> Assem: try putting it on the forums
[17:33] <maximilian-schro> guest6294, do you use kde or gnome? i had the same problem in kde 4.1 becauce the network manage didn't work asit should do.
[17:33] <mjdez> hello
[17:33] <FiReSTaRT> just curious.. is there a fix for the hybernation/suspend issue out yet? i tried uninstalling compiz and it didn't help
[17:33] <Maizcul> mjdez: howdy
[17:33] <mgolisch> FiReSTaRT: what issue?
[17:34] <FiReSTaRT> blank screen when you try to restore from a suspend
[17:34] <guest6294> maximilian-schro, im using gnome, with wicd, i got rid of network manager
[17:34] <mjdez> still a n00b at ubuntu and linux,.... how can i access network settings if i cannot login as root?
[17:34] <almostdvs> i am confused on the subject of ppa's and authentication anyone wish to clarify some things for me?
[17:34] <Chun> Having a bit of trouble creating an ad-hoc wireless network in 8.10; I've been using 'create new wireless network' -- it seems to try to connect for 10 seconds, then errors: This network connection has been disconnected
[17:34] <guest6294> mjdez, you cant login as root in ubuntu
[17:35] <mjdez> aware.... but still cannot access network settings
[17:35] <sysdoc> I'm running twin view with two x-sessions, and the launchers on the second screen crash gnome-panel. Anyone have a suggestion?
[17:35] <mgolisch> FiReSTaRT: might be related to the graphics card
[17:35] <guest6294> mjdez, whats the error?
[17:35] <FiReSTaRT> mgolisch: the dreaded nvidia.. that is true.. there was a lot of talk that it didn't mesh well with compiz, so i tried uninstalling it but the issue still exists
[17:35] <guest6294> mjdez, when you access the network settings the OS will ask you for a password, your user password, thats all
[17:35] <mjdez> System > Administration > <Network> doesn't exist. ultimately i'm trying to connect my ubuntu machine to my home windows network
[17:36] <maximilian-schro> guest6294, sorry but i cant help with wicd. sorry. i was just wondering if it is a kde problem for you aswell. sorry
[17:36] <sysdoc> FiReSTaRT, Which NV driver are you using?
[17:36] <mjdez> in a gui or terminal?
[17:36] <mgolisch> FiReSTaRT: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend << tried that?
[17:36] <guest6294> mjdez, my suggestion is to get rid of network manager and install wicd
[17:37] <mjdez> okay...
[17:37] <FiReSTaRT> mgolisch: im using 177.. i'll give this link a shot
[17:37] <sysdoc> FiReSTaRT, Use the 173 driver
[17:37] <Maizcul> Any one got an idea about how to get laptop "Fn" key to work?
[17:38] <FiReSTaRT> sysdoc: that's been documented to fix it?
[17:38] <guest6294> im using wicd to connect wirelessly, however when I enable the encryption options, although I give the correct key, it will not authenticate, I have read something about wpa_supplicant, is it installed by default in ubuntu 8.10? anyone has any ideas as to why encryption does not work?
[17:38] <sysdoc> FiReSTaRT, the 173 driver worked for me
[17:39] <FiReSTaRT> sysdoc: i'll give it a shot then... as soon as i finish my breakfast which should be just about ready :P
[17:39] <FiReSTaRT> thanks for the tip :)
[17:39] <maximilian-schro> mgolisch,  i now get aswell errors while booting the livre cd. it says Buffer I/0 Error. i never had this before. after this a lot of errors follow. they all start with ata1.00 and dont stop. :S they repeat
[17:39] <Maizcul> bad CD?
[17:39] <rww> guest6294: to find out if wpasupplicant is installed on your system, open a terminal and issue "aptitude search wpasupplicant". If it's installed, the one line of output will start with the letter "i" (for Installed)
[17:40] <rww> guest6294: unfortunately, I don't use wifi, so I can't help you much more than that.
[17:40] <MadChopr> what backup software do you guys recommend, i'm giong to use tapes for backups
[17:40] <mgolisch> maximilian-schro: maybe your cddrive is broken? or your controler?
[17:40] <FiReSTaRT> sysdoc: i get the msg SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[17:40] <MadChopr> i was thinking about the tape backup program from maryland .... AMANDA
[17:40] <maximilian-schro> i will try the second drive. but i could boot into the livecd just 15min ago
[17:41] <Lancelot> my wireless won't work for some reason; it always asks for certificates?
[17:41] <Lancelot> and it never connects to the internet
[17:41] <ChrisBookwood> Do i need to uncomment the line "# kopt=root=UUID=09c88f95-3096-4575-a7c1-d144e820c115 ro quiet splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst to get it to take effekt?
[17:41] <Lancelot> can anyone help?
[17:41] <guest6294> rww, it's installed
[17:41] <Maizcul> tried turning off certificates?
[17:41] <Lancelot> Maizcul: how do I do that?
[17:41] <sysdoc> FiReSTaRT, Deactivate the 177 then activate the 173
[17:41] <FiReSTaRT> and now hardware drivers froze up on me
[17:41] <Maizcul> Network settings
[17:41] <Lancelot> Maizcul: okay, one sec
[17:41] <rww> guest6294: what type of network are you using? WEP? WPA? WPA2?
[17:41] <FiReSTaRT> sysdoc that's what happened when i tried to deactivate 177
[17:42] <Lancelot> let me try ;)
[17:42] <guest6294> rww, WPA2
[17:43] <FiReSTaRT> ok i'll eat and then retry
[17:43] <ChrisBookwood> Do i need to uncomment the line "# kopt=root=UUID=09c88f95-3096-4575-a7c1-d144e820c115 ro quiet splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst order to make it take effect?
[17:43] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: no, its used by update-grub to rewrite the entrys for each kernel it finds
[17:44] <ChrisBookwood> thank you
[17:44] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: it uses the options specified there in every entry it generates
[17:44] <sysdoc> I'm running twin view with two x-sessions, and the launchers on the second screen crash gnome-panel. Anyone have a suggestion?
[17:45] <Myrtti> is there a command to check which process is taking up the sound devices?
[17:45] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, thank you very much!
[17:45] <mgolisch> np
[17:45] <fbc> I'm curious, If an Ubuntu Muslim edition locates an Ubuntu Jewish Edition online does it try to attack it?
[17:45] <Maizcul> keyboard Fn key won't work, any ideas on getting it working? Sony Vaio Lappy.
[17:45] <Lancelot> Maizcul: I went to the network connections, and clicked on one of them to edit, and this message popped up? Allow application access to keyring? The application 'nm-connection-editor' wants to access the password for 'Network secret for [network] in the default keyring. Deny, allow once, or always allow?
[17:45] <Myrtti> fbc: you're so badly offtopic, it doesn't fit into Ubuntu IRC channels.
[17:45] <Maizcul> Allow once
[17:45] <fbc> Myrtti, sorry,, m y bad
[17:46] <Lancelot> tried that, it just pops up again...
[17:46] <Lancelot> and again
[17:46] <Lancelot> and again...
[17:46] <Maizcul> fbc: Go and find something else to do. You're as far off topic as can be.
[17:46] <shiMMer> what is best application to searching and connect to wireless??
[17:46] <Maizcul> Lancelot: Try allow always then x)
[17:46] <Lancelot> ok
[17:46] <kusanagi> how do i know what tcp/udp ports are using each application?
[17:46] <Lancelot> now the network config. went away...
[17:46] <Maizcul> Weird :S
[17:47] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, it's just funny. Cause even though my line looks like '# kopt=root=UUID=09c88f95-3096-4575-a7c1-d144e820c115 ro quiet splash', it still does show the message of what it boots, and not only usplash
[17:47] <Maizcul> Are you connecting ad hoc to another PC or to a router?
[17:47] <fbc> Maizcul, ok, ok, meaculpa.
[17:47] <Lancelot> ad hoc
[17:47] <Maizcul> hmm
[17:47] <Pici> Myrtti: lsof | grep /dev/dsp OR whatever your sound device should work
[17:47] <rww> ChrisBookwood: run sudo update-grub after you edit menu.lst
[17:47] <ChrisBookwood> rww: trust me - i have tried!
[17:48] <Maizcul> Click edit again now
[17:48] <Lancelot> okay
[17:48] <Lancelot> 1 sec
[17:48] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: if you run update-grub after changing that and it still persists i asume it due to the used usplash theme
[17:48] <Maizcul> Under wireless security try "open system"
[17:48] <kusanagi> is there anyway to relate a port (tpc or udp) with an aplication?
[17:48] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, so you say there's something wrong with my usplash theme or?
[17:48] <kusanagi> to list the applications i mean
[17:48] <Lancelot> where's that? :/
[17:49] <Maizcul> It's a tab
[17:49] <rww> ChrisBookwood: After you run update-grub, go back into menu.lst and see if the options you want got added to the automagic section at the bottom. If so, yeah, it's a theme thing.
[17:49] <mgolisch> kusanagi: list in what?
[17:49] <Lancelot> i know, but i can't find "open system"
[17:49] <Lancelot> wait
[17:49] <ChrisBookwood> rww, it is
[17:49] <Lancelot> sorry
[17:49] <Lancelot> lol
[17:49] <Lancelot> stupid me...
[17:49] <meganox> kusanagi: netstat?
[17:49] <ChrisBookwood> it looks perfect in the list at the bottom of menu.lst
[17:49] <Maizcul> Kek
[17:49] <Lancelot> should i check the box "system setting"?
[17:49] <FloodBot2> Lancelot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:50] <Lancelot> should i check the box "system setting"?
[17:50] <Maizcul> try it first as is
[17:50] <kusanagi> meganox, i guess netstat is able to do that but i cant find the option :S
[17:50] <Maizcul> then if that doesn't work again without
[17:50] <maximilian-schro> mgolisch,  u get the same problem during starting with the other drive aswell. i totaly confuses me because it worked some minutes ago.
[17:51] <Lancelot> okay, i'm not within range, but i will try later
[17:51] <XenSA> is there a noob irc channel for dumasses linke me?
[17:51] <Lancelot> thank you, Maizcul! :)
[17:51] <Maizcul> No problem :)
[17:51] <ChrisBookwood> rww & mgolisch, any ideas to how i fix the usplash theme then?
[17:51] <Myrtti> XenSA: surely you're not that noob, since you've got Ubuntu :-)
[17:51] <shiMMer> what is best application for search and connect wireless??
[17:51] <meganox> kusanagi: you want to find applications are listening on which ports?  netstat -l
[17:51] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: did you download it externaly?
[17:51] <Myrtti> XenSA: shoot your questions, we'll answer them if we can
[17:52] <XenSA> what is the difference with these files?
[17:52] <ChrisBookwood> no, some weeks ago i installed another usplash theme, and that's kinda when it went wrong
[17:52] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, i am using the default now, though
[17:52] <nurettin> hello i have got problem. my problem is in tho toolbar my sound icom closed when linuxant modem drivers. apt-get removed but not happened plaese help. thank you.
[17:52] <XenSA> opera_10.00.4102.gcc3.qt3_i386.deb
[17:53] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: oh you might need to rebuild the initramfs
[17:53] <paulo> #ubuntu-es
[17:53] <kusanagi> thanks meganox it was something like that
[17:53] <XenSA> opera_10.00.4102.gcc4.qt4_i386.deb
[17:53] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, i try google that then
[17:53] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: did you do that? if you used startupmanager it should have done that for you
[17:53] <Frxstrem> Does Ubuntu Studio come with an Windows Installer (to install it inside Windows)?
[17:53] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, i have tried with startupmanager
[17:53] <XenSA> opera-static_10.00.4102.gcc4.qt3_i386.deb
[17:53] <Pretto> how much hd space do i need to mirror Intrepid repo?
[17:53] <fbc> XenSA, notice he only said not a noob.
[17:54] <meganox> Frxstrem: like wubi?
[17:54] <orochi_> just a quick poll :> are most people here using 8.10 or have you been sticking to 8.04?
[17:54] <rww> !poll | orochi_
[17:54] <Frxstrem> ??? I mean like the installer in Ubuntu, that makes you able to install Ubuntu inside Windows...
[17:54] <adm_> #lfs :http://www.linuxfromscratch.org
[17:54] <maximilian-schro> orochi_, both :)
[17:54] <Slart> orochi_: I think most have updated to 8.10..
[17:54] <Myrtti> XenSA: the other one is for newer KDE, built with GNU C compiler version 4, the other for a bit older KDE with GNU C compiler 3, and the last one is built on newer GNU C compiler, with the GUI KDE files inside
[17:54] <fbc> orochi_, I did the first week that 8.10 came out.. but I was quick brought into the fold.
[17:55] <meganox> orochi_: 8.10 on laptop was planning on moving back to hardy but might stick with it, waiting to see how networking goes
[17:55] <Maizcul> Hmm... Conky's reporting 58% ram usage, all i'm running is it and pidgin, wouldn't have thought they put it that high
[17:55] <XenSA> so i use gnome on 8.10 which one for me ..none?
[17:55] <Myrtti> XenSA: I'd take the latter
[17:55] <Myrtti> XenSA: Qt3 with gcc4
[17:55] <meganox> Frxstrem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=759827
[17:55] <Myrtti> XenSA: but hold on, I'll check
[17:55] <XenSA> ta
[17:55] <XenSA> holding....
[17:55] <mgolisch> Maizcul: run free -m, read the second line, thats how much actualy is used - buffers and caches
[17:55] <AndyB> Im trying to install grub on internal drive from live cd, but when i run "grub-install" it says it "Cannot find /boot:" anyone have any advice?
[17:56] <XenSA> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10.0-Alpha-1/intel-linux/
[17:56] <erUSUL> !ram | Maizcul
[17:56] <fbc> Maizcul,  Don't feel so bad, just booting up to the gui gets me 66% memory utilization and i got a gig of ram.
[17:56] <meganox> Frxstrem: http://www.ubustu.com/globe/2007/05/23/add-ubuntu-studio-to-an-existing-ubuntu-install/ note instructions are for gutsy but should help you get started
[17:56] <Maizcul> free: 9 ...
[17:56] <mgolisch> AndyB: does it have /boot on that drive? i mean are grubs files there too?
[17:56] <Frxstrem> thanks, meganox
[17:57] <Myrtti> XenSA: yeah, the latter.
[17:57] <Pretto> :(
[17:57] <AndyB> mgolisch, no its running from live cd, and xp is on the internal drive
[17:57] <XenSA> thank you
[17:57] <Myrtti> XenSA: 8.10 comes with gcc4 installed, so you'd be fine with that
[17:57] <nurettin> hello i have got problem. my problem is in tho toolbar my sound icom closed when linuxant modem drivers. apt-get removed but not happened plaese help. thank you.
[17:57] <Maizcul> total is only 438 though. Sony say 512mb ram, but they go by 1000bytes/kb/mb instead of 1024, theiving gits xD
[17:57] <Glenna> having trouble with flash player download can someone help
[17:58] <shausam27> i need help with kbarcode label it will not print right
[17:58] <meganox> Glenna: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578  instructions to set up pulseaudio with flash for intrepid and hardy
[17:59] <orochi_> fbc: I installed 8.10 when it first came out too :> 8.04 worked so well for me that i had high hopes for intrepid, i was not expecting so many severe bugs in the final version
[17:59] <mgolisch> AndyB: does that drive a ext3 partition at all? or do you just want the mbr to be replaced with grubs?
[17:59] <Frxstrem> What I really meant was to install Ubuntu Studio without Ubuntu installed, but from Windows
[17:59] <Maizcul> I read what he said and was just like ... WHUT -drool. I'm a noob >.<
[17:59] <Glenna> thank you meganox I will try
[18:00] <AndyB> mgolisch, It only has XP on NTFS, I have ubuntu installed on an external drive, but i cant bios boot from USB, so i need to install grub
[18:00] <meganox> Frxstrem: you can install ubuntu into windows using wubi from the desktop live cd, then follow the instructions to turn it into a studio installation
[18:00] <mgolisch> AndyB: i see, but be aware grub will only work if the external thing is connected
[18:00] <meganox> Frxstrem: I gather.  never used either myself
[18:01] <mgolisch> AndyB: and you will need to set it up manualy using the grub command
[18:01] <fbc> orochi_, yeah 8.04 was so rock solid and stable, I didn't expect the bugs either, but they were quickly taken care of over the next few weeks that it was just a temporary situation; at least for me.
[18:01] <Letter_Z> How do I install from a .run program in 8,04?
[18:01] <Frxstrem> well, thanks anyway...I'll try to find out myself (if it doesn't work, it doesn't work)
[18:01] <meganox> fbc, orochi_ : network-manager is the killer
[18:01] <meganox> Frxstrem: good luck
[18:01] <maximilian-schro> mgolisch, i now tried in the qtparted live cd. it says "could not stat /dev/hda1 / no such file or directory. the dive appertanlty does not exist, di dyou specify it correctly"
[18:02] <AndyB> mgolisch, Ah that is what i am trying to avoid, i had it setup but i needed the usb plugged in, so i reinstalled the mbr, do you know any way i can install grub from windows so i can boot ubuntu on usb?
[18:02] <setsanto> Hi, I tried to install Songbird on ubuntu 8.04.  I downloaded a .deb file for it since i wasn't sure how to handle the .xpi.  When I installed it through terminal, a whole host of errors showed up (many seemed to be related to my Dust theme).  Now it shows up as a menu item under applications, but doesn't work.  Also, the installer thinks that songbird is already installed, and apt-get remove Songbird has no effect.  Any advice?  All I reall
[18:02] <meganox> Frxstrem: see if you can find updated instructions
[18:02] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, I have just tried to reset everything with startupmanager - didn't work... I don't think the usplash theme is corrupted though, cause it shows usplash, where the thing goes from left to right and back again, but when it starts load, the usplash disappears and text i showed
[18:02] <orochi_> fbc: Ahh, that's good to hear...so for example (if you've experienced any of these bugs), is the automatic opening/closing of cd/dvd trays fixed now?
[18:02] <fbc> meganox, not for me it wasn't. I don't use static ips, and everything I use it for it works well.
[18:02] <nurettin> hello i have got problem. my problem is in tho toolbar my sound icom closed when linuxant modem drivers. apt-get removed but not happened plaese help. thank you.
[18:02] <konam> hi
[18:02] <ppires> hi there. i've installed openoffice.org 3 using this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[18:02] <fbc> orochi_, never had that bug.
[18:02] <ppires> somewhere in my updates this got removed
[18:03] <Maizcul> Anyone got any ideas how to get a laptop "Fn" key working?
[18:03] <maximilian-schro> dir
[18:03] <ppires> now i checked that i have the correct entries in my sources.list but I'm unable to install openoffice
[18:03] <fbc> Maizcul, You push it I think.
[18:03] <Letter_Z> I downloaded hplip-2.9.10.run so I can install drivers for my printer, how do I run it(I'm on 8.04)
[18:03] <Pici> ppires: Did you read the notice there on that link?
[18:03] <ppires> i can't even go to the preivous oofice
[18:03] <konam> i want to make the right ctrl key a shift key, i just broke my left shift (the one i'm used to use) and i want an alternative. i browsed the keyboard option in preferences but didn't find a way to customize the keyboard my way
[18:03] <rww> ppires: see the link you just posted ;)
[18:03] <ppires> Pici: yeah, but i had no problems
[18:03] <nnull> anyway to send video through s-video to a tv/dvd player without creating a seperate x screen ?
[18:03] <orochi_> fbc: Ah, that was one i noticed right away :> could you perhaps list a few examples of bugs you've noticed that were fixed?
[18:03] <almostdvs> all of a sudden nautilus is opening folders i double click in a new window.  i haven't changed any settings, what's going on?
[18:04] <Pici> ppires: You just said you did have problems.
[18:04] <ppires> now i don't have neither 3.0 neither 2.4.1 :(
[18:04] <orochi_> (i'm considering installing 8.10 again tonight because of the lag in security updates for lenny)
[18:04] <ppires> Pici: they were removed during my updates.
[18:04] <ppires> i was using it quite seamlessly. no issues ever found, like crashing or something
[18:04] <Maizcul> fbc: well no sh*t sherlock
[18:04] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, I have just tried to reset everything with startupmanager - didn't work... I don't think the usplash theme is corrupted though, cause it shows usplash, where the thing goes from left to right and back again, but when it starts load, the usplash disappears and text i showed
[18:05] <Pici> ppires: And now the applications aren't installed, or you can't install them?
[18:05] <tasos> Θα ήθελα να με βοηθήσετε στην σύνδεση μου στο Internet μέσω ασύρματου ROUTER. Ενώ βλέπει το δίκτυο (βγάζει το όνομα του δικτύου και το ποσοστό λήψης (80%) καθώς και το σκαλοπατάκι της λήψης δεν ανοίγει σελίδες. Το μηχάνημα είναι laptop Αcer με intell duo Centrino. Ευχαρ
[18:05] <tasos> ιστώ
[18:05] <ppires> Pici: both :(
[18:05] <Pici> !gr | tasos
[18:05] <ppires> Pici: ppires@davinci:~$ ooffice
[18:05] <ppires> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: 237: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/pagein: not found
[18:05] <ppires> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: 254: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: not found
[18:05] <mgolisch> AndyB: you can load grub from windows bootloader like wubi does it
[18:05] <Maizcul> No need for such severe sarcasm. It doesn't work on more i'm guessing the technical side in that ubuntu doesn't see it being pressed, or sees it yet ignores it
[18:05] <konam> can someone help me with my keyboard layout
[18:05] <fbc> orochi_, the ATI driver bug I quickly found a fix for online. My hibernation problem I found a fix for online. And all the little nuances I was able to find fixes for online. The virtual box version for intrepid came only a week or so afterwards, so no problem.
[18:06] <ppires> basically it was removed without me knowing about it (perhaps i just ignored some info while updating. never saw it coming :(
[18:06] <konam> i want to make the right ctrl key a shift key, i just broke my left shift (the one i'm used to use) and i want an alternative. i browsed the keyboard option in preferences but didn't find a way to customize the keyboard my way
[18:06] <shiMMer> i got an error while i try to run kismet from my terminal.how to enable??
[18:06] <fbc> Maizcul, :-p
[18:06] <Maizcul> fbc: :P
[18:06] <AndyB> mgolisch, Do you know any tutorials that help me do this?
[18:06] <nnull> anyway to send video through s-video on gfx card to a tv/dvd player without creating a seperate x screen ?
[18:07] <Pici> ppires: does   apt-cache policy openoffice.org   say it is still installed?
[18:07] <gasto> how do I install Ubuntu in my hard disk by having all the hard disk with just one partition with Windows on it?
[18:07] <mgolisch> AndyB: yeah moment, had my mom on the phone
[18:07] <mgolisch> :)
[18:07] <ppires> Pici: Installed: (none)
[18:07] <AndyB> mgolisch, No hurry =]
[18:07] <fbc> nnull, yes vlc give you a default output screen option in the advanced settings...as long as you can get you s-video port to be recognized as a second screen.
[18:07] <almostdvs> all of a sudden nautilus is opening folders i double click in a new window.  i haven't changed any settings, what's going on?
[18:07] <erUSUL> gasto: the installer can shrink the windows partition to make room for ubuntu
[18:08] <Pici> shiMMer: You need to modify /etc/kismet/kismet.conf manually.
[18:08] <gasto> wow, that is cool
[18:08] <erUSUL> gasto: if there is enough free space on the drive
[18:08] <j2daosh> ok, im at wits end, ill add the freakin lines to my interfaces file to make my wireless work... what do i need to do?
[18:08] <mgolisch> ChrisBookwood: strange, never seen that
[18:08] <Pici> ppires: Anything in the version table below that?
[18:08] <erUSUL> gasto: defragment the windows partition before installing
[18:08] <nnull> fbc¬ i can but, whenever i enable my TV it breaks compiz/deco
[18:08] <gasto> eruUSUL, so I don't have to worry that the Ubuntu Live CD deletes my Windows/personal files, right?
[18:08] <ChrisBookwood> mgolisch, it's weird, yeah... Maybe i just have to live with it for now
[18:08] <Frxstrem> gasto: With Ubuntu 8.10, just put the CD/DVD in your drive, and you can install it manually from Windows with no need for an extra partition...
[18:08] <ppires> Pici: available 2.4.1. but when i try to install it, it complains about broken packages. even if i remove the PPA entries in source.list
[18:09] <Frxstrem> I did it some days ago...
[18:09] <shiMMer> pici::need to set my device?
[18:09] <Pici> shiMMer: yes.
[18:09] <shiMMer> i try
[18:09] <fbc> nnull, don't use compiz then. However I didn't have to disable compiz to do it with my nvidia 7600
[18:09] <rww> ppires: try installing it again, then copypaste the entire output you get to pastebin
[18:09] <rww> !pastebin | ppires
[18:09] <erUSUL> gasto: if you choose the right options there is no worries... but backups are envcouraged althought shrinking a ntfs partition is usually problem free there is no guaranties
[18:10] <ppires> rww: ok. gimme a sec
[18:10] <erUSUL> !install
[18:10] <gasto> Frxstrem, how can you install it on the same logical unit? Windows is NTFS... Ubuntu ext3... I don't see how...
[18:10] <j2daosh> someone got a link to what exactly i have to add to my interfaces file to conntect to wep encrypted, wpa, and hidden SSID wirless networks?
[18:10] <Pici> shiMMer: Take a look at  zcat /usr/share/doc/kismet/README.gz | less   for further help
[18:10] <rww> ppires: also, make sure the ppa stuff is gone from sources.list and you did apt-get update before that.
[18:10] <dubsteppa> ahoy there
[18:10] <dubsteppa> short question 'bout the wlan0 / wmaster0 interfaces: any hints on how to change the mac address, so that the interfaces work correctly afterits ?
[18:10] <Frxstrem> Yes, you can
[18:11] <ppires> rww: http://pastebin.com/m6c50ff2f and yeah i removed those entries from the file and updated everything
[18:11] <fbc> nnull, my card had vga,svideo, and digital on the same card. the svideo was connected from the vga adapter, so whatever the vga adapter saw, the svideo outputted.
[18:11] <Frxstrem> gasto: Just run the autorun and select "Install in Windows" and it installs into the NTFS partition
[18:11] <nnull> fbc ah k
[18:12] <kbrooks> Why is virtual memory necessary in Linux woth 2 gb of RAM?
[18:12] <gasto> Frxstrem, how do I boot from Ubunto then?
[18:12] <orochi_> fbc: sorry for the delay...that doesn't sound too bad, when i first installed i found that the utility that changed over video drivers for my nvidia card was also pretty buggy but hopefully that's working better now
[18:12] <Frxstrem> It gives you the option to boot Windows or Ubuntu
[18:12] <MadChopr> why does ubuntu prefer bacula to amanda?
[18:12] <shiMMer> Pici::i already set it=source=lo,eth0,wmaster0,wlan0,pan0,IEEE 802.11bg
[18:12] <rww> ppires: hmm. Is the output of sudo aptitude install openoffice.org more verbose?
[18:12] <j2daosh> kbrooks: at this point, its more of a "just in case" situation
[18:13] <kbrooks> j2daosh, Example?
[18:13] <ppires> rww: nop mate, just what i shown you.
[18:13] <j2daosh> say your running CS3....
[18:13] <Maizcul> Any ideas on "fn" key on a laptop not working?
[18:13] <fantomas> !intrepid
[18:13] <j2daosh> CS3 uses massive amount of ram
[18:14] <Tundrayeti311> Maizcu: Wrong keyboard layout selected
[18:14] <orochi_> kbrooks: with a page file, if you run out of real physical memory then things don't simply die on you or fail to start, they can page to the disk and back to ensure that there's enough available RAM
[18:14] <setsanto> ﻿Hi, I tried to install Songbird on ubuntu 8.04.  I downloaded a .deb file for it since i wasn't sure how to handle the .xpi.  When I installed it through terminal, a whole host of errors showed up (many seemed to be related to my Dust theme).  Now it shows up as a menu item under applications, but doesn't work.  Also, the installer thinks that songbird is already installed, and apt-get remove Songbird has no effect.  Any advice?  All I re
[18:14] <Maizcul> Tundr: My make isn't on the list :/
[18:14] <j2daosh> with no swap, your comp will lock up or applications will just start dying
[18:14] <Maizcul> Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP
[18:14] <Maizcul> nevermind the model, sony isn't even on the list >.<
[18:14] <rww> ppires: okay. Open Synaptic (System > Administration > Synaptic), click the "Status" button in the bottom-left, then click the "Installed (local or obsolete)" section. Anything related to openoffice.org in there?
[18:15] <Tundrayeti311> Maizcu: Is there a generic laptop keyboard, or you could try another brand...
[18:15] <ppires> rww: checking
[18:15] <Maizcul> I've been through about 20 so far -.-"
[18:15] <j2daosh> what do i have to add to my /etc/network/interfaces file to make my wireless work?
[18:15] <Tundrayeti311> Maizcu: ouch...
[18:16] <almostdvs> my nautilus behavior has changed drastically and i haven't done anything. has a recent update changed it? and how do i get it back
[18:16] <ppires> rww: yeah, openoffice 3.0
[18:16] <j2daosh> i added: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[18:16] <j2daosh> but that doesn't get me going
[18:16] <HymnToLife> j2daosh: you must add the encryption information
[18:16] <ajassat> Hello .
[18:16] <Maizcul> I can't turn on scroll lock without using the Fn key either..
[18:16] <ajassat> I need some help.
[18:16] <ajassat> Is this the right channel?
[18:16] <ghaleb> hello, I have a problem playing my movies in totem and mplayer, the movie started any the sound is ok, but it's blinking !
[18:16] <recon69> ﻿j2daosh: well first i would check to see if you wireless card is supported by ubuntu
[18:17] <afief> ajassat, depends on which help you need:)
[18:17] <ajassat> Just installed Ubuntu (wubi).
[18:17] <j2daosh> it is recon69 i have used it before, but then i rebooted and it stopped working and hasn't worked since
[18:17] <rww> ppires: remove anything in there related to OO.org, then try installing again (you'll get 2.4). When the PPA comes back up, you could consider adding the PPA again and upgrading if you need 3.0.
[18:17] <j2daosh> where do i add the lines?
[18:17] <ajassat> I cannot change my resolution.
[18:17] <ajassat> Is there a graphical tool I can use to change it.
[18:17] <ajassat> I can only go upto 800x600
[18:17] <ppires> rww: the thing is that i've been using oo3.0 in windows and mac. all my current docs are under that format. i'm afraid i can lose my stuff :( anyway tks a lot for the help mate
[18:18] <almostdvs> ajassat: did you enable your graphics card drivers?
[18:18] <ajassat> Yes.
[18:18] <afief> ajassat, sorry I don't know much about wubi... under normal ubuntu it's under system->preferences->screen resolution
[18:18] <ajassat> Yeah.
[18:18] <rww> ppires: I would've thought that oo3.0 was backwards compatible with 2.4. That isn't the case?
[18:18] <ajassat> It's the same thing.
[18:18] <mgolisch> AndyB: http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Grub4dos_tutorial this might help
[18:18] <HymnToLife> j2daosh: as I said, you mst add at least the encryption information of your network. What are yo using?
[18:18] <ajassat> WUbi doesn't make any difference.
[18:18] <almostdvs> my nautilus behavior has changed drastically and i haven't done anything. has a recent update changed it? and how do i get it back
[18:18] <AndyB> mgolisch, Thanks =]
[18:19] <rww> almostdvs: what, specifically, has changed?
[18:19] <ajassat> In the Screen Res dialog, I only have the option to go upto 800x600
[18:19] <mgolisch> AndyB: but dont do any of the grubinst thing, all you need to do is find out how to configure that thing and boot it using the windows bootloader
[18:19] <ppires> rww: afaik no. and there is no msoffice2007 oxml support
[18:19] <j2daosh> im using networkmanager
[18:19] <ppires> rww: anyway, thanks dude
[18:19] <rww> ppires: you're welcome. Hopefully 3.0 will be back in the PPA soon...
[18:19] <AndyB> mgolisch, ok
[18:19] <j2daosh> but it's not working with the info im putting in (yes the info is correct). its not even showing signal strength
[18:19] <j2daosh> and all it does when i ty to connect is enter the configuration stage and then goes back to disconnected
[18:19] <ppires> rww: let's hope so. i guess i'll wait and edit everything in my mac from the time being. once again thank you very much
[18:21] <Xepra> gah, why aren't md5 sums on the download page?
[18:21] <almostdvs> rww: when i double click a folder it opens in a new window. the location bar that used to be under the menu toolbar is gone but a button is on the bottom of the window does the same thing in a popout, which is w/el, but i personally don't like it.
[18:21] <Oxidize> Anyone know how to get file roller to support rar's ?
[18:21] <rww> !rar | Oxidize
[18:21] <Xepra> or just type "sudo apt-get install rar"
[18:21] <ajassat> Like I am really getting help right now
[18:21] <Oxidize> thnx :)
[18:21] <Xepra> ;p
[18:21] <ajassat> thanks
[18:21] <ajassat> sad
[18:21] <j2daosh> what is wmaster0?
[18:22] <j2daosh> unknown hardware address type 801
[18:22] <almostdvs> rww: i can't add a tab.. i don't think
[18:22] <MadChopr> i have a xeon processor, i'd like to get the 64bit version of ubuntu, but when i go to download ubuntu from the site, and i select 64bit server, it automatically assumes i have an AMD processor and sends me this image: ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso - is this also for the xeon processor?
[18:22] <stumpy> Where do ask for a bug fix to backported to the LTS version of ubuntu?
[18:22] <mgolisch> MadChopr: thats normal the architecture is named amd64
[18:22] <MadChopr> thank you mgolisch
[18:22] <mgolisch> MadChopr: thats the right thing to get
[18:23] <almostdvs> rww: the buttons for all back forward up and similar actions are gone
[18:23] <Maizcul1> surely theres something easier than going through every single combination of keyboard on the list :|
[18:24] <Maizcul1> ahh well
[18:24] <recon69> ﻿j2daosh: well, first thing to do is post the results of "-lspci -nn" and "ifconfig" to the paste bin and give a description of the problem, what you have done
[18:25] <rww> almostdvs: almostdvs: open a Nautilus window, go to Edit > Preferences > Behavior and check "Always Open in Browser Windows". If it's already checked, let me know and I'll think up something else.
[18:25] <IntuitiveNipple> "wmasterX" are the wireless 'control' interfaces
[18:25] <j2daosh> i cant paste it because i dont have internet....
[18:26] <almostdvs> rww: that changed like everything, ty very much.  i thot i tried that before, apparently not
[18:26] <j2daosh> im on a different machine right now and i have no flash drive to use to copy output back and forth
[18:26] <ghaleb> hello, I have a problem playing my movies in totem and mplayer, the movie started any the sound is ok, but it's blinking !
[18:26] <j2daosh> i can type in the lines once i get the laptop back up after the restart
[18:26] <mgolisch> ghaleb: blinking?
[18:27] <rww> almostdvs: glad I could help :)
[18:27] <ghaleb> mgolisch, yes , the screen shows the movies is blinking I know it's weird ;)
[18:27] <mgolisch> ghaleb: what type of movies is that? and do you use compiz? if you go to System-Preferences-Apearance and set desktop effects to none, is it still the same?
[18:28] <rww> almostdvs: as an aside, the Nautilus people tried to make non-browser mode ("spatial" mode) the default a while back. As you can imagine, there was an uproar about it ;)
[18:28] <ghaleb> yeah I enabled visual effects comes with intrepid
[18:28] <recon69> ﻿j2daosh: you can also try run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart", you machine might not be running your modified scripts. if you card is fully supported I would recommend using network manager instead of editing config files
[18:28] <nnull> guys in installed k9copy in ubuntu, it sucked, so i removed it.. but i noticed when i removed it, it didnt remove all the lib's and junk it downloaded with it upon install, how do i purge these KDE pieces of evil from my holy gnome system please?
[18:29] <Maizcul1> You need a holy hand grenande
[18:29] <muxx> lol
[18:29] <ArCHoNKoG> lol
[18:29] <rww> !puregnome | nnull
[18:29] <rww> huh, that changed since the last time I used it
[18:29] <ghaleb> mgolisch, I removed the effects and it stopped blinking
[18:29] <almostdvs> rww: i can see it being more logical for more basic users, like if i were to switch my grandma's computer to linux. but it isn't nearly as productive. I'm not sure where i fall on that argument
[18:29] <j2daosh> networking restart doesn't work, already tried that before the restart
[18:30] <fosco__> nnull, try gtkorphan to remove unneeded dependencies
[18:30] <j2daosh> i cant even get the laptop to shutdown now... its stuck on shutting down the ALSA
[18:30] <ghaleb> mgolisch, thank you, but does that mean I should stop it every timg I watch a movie ;)
[18:30] <anxiolytic> I just got a new monitor. For the past 10 years I've just been copying my xorg.conf over from install to install, and now I'm clueless on how to setup the monitor. Help? I want to set the res to 1920x1050
[18:30] <nnull> fosco__¬ ok cheers
[18:30] <recon69> ﻿ghaleb: have you installed the property drivers for your video card? if not could be a reason for flickering / stutters
[18:30] <muxx> shouldn't the library packages be auto removable in synaptic if no installed package needs them?
[18:30] <ajassat> I seriosly need help.
[18:30] <nnull> also i noticed handbrake isnt in the repo's ?
[18:31] <j2daosh> ok, im gonna grab some lunch, i will be back in about 15 minutes or so
[18:31] <zoopster> ajassat: don't we all
[18:31] <ajassat> Ubuntu only gives me a few options for screen resolution.
[18:31] <Wyg> Is there anyway I can download the installation files for Wubi separately or change the mirror? The default one seems to be going very slow for me.
[18:31] <rww> muxx: depends on how they were installed. if they weren't set autoinstalled, then no
[18:31] <ghaleb> recon69, the system installed it by itself
[18:31] <ajassat> How can I fix this?
[18:31] <rww> Wyg: download the right .iso manually and put it in the same folder as the Wubi exe
[18:31] <pastore> hi dudes; I need a help; explainin': I've Ubuntu 8.04 and I'm connected to wireless router with abilitate roaming in the wireless preference; the router has dhcp and there aren't problem. Well...I need to set a static ip now; then I proced so: disabled "roaming" and write SSID then set 192.168.0.2 as ip, 255.255.255.0 as broadcast and 192.168.0.1 as gateway; on the router disabled dhcp and set 192.168.0.1 as local address 
[18:31] <Wyg> Ooh, that works?
[18:31] <ghaleb> recon69, so if that's the reason, maybe I should update the driver
[18:31] <anxiolytic> I just got a new monitor. For the past 10 years I've just been copying my xorg.conf over from install to install, and now I'm clueless on how to setup the monitor. Help? I want to set the res to 1920x1050
[18:31] <zoopster> ajassat: need to give more detail on your card/driver in use
[18:31] <shiMMer> ajassat::install using live or wubi??
[18:31] <Wyg> Thank you, that's pretty neat.
[18:31] <rww> Wyg: yeah, thankfully. download inside wubi takes forever for me, too
[18:32] <ajassat> I installed using Wubi
[18:32] <shiMMer> better install live
[18:32] <rnr> how to install a package in ubuntu
[18:32] <shiMMer> only suggest
[18:32] <Pici> !newpackage | rnr
[18:32] <Maizcul1> anyone got any ideas on getting a laptops "Fn" key to work?
[18:32] <shiMMer> apt
[18:32] <ajassat> I don;t want to "install to HDD".
[18:32] <ajassat> Nvidia 6700 GS
[18:32] <nnull> !handbrake
[18:32] <ajassat> Drivers enabled.
[18:32] <ajassat> nvidia-glx installed
[18:33] <mgolisch> ghaleb: there might be something to fix that, or you just write a script which you execute instead of the mediaplayer, which switches back to metacity, launches the mediaplayer and on exit switches back
[18:33] <ajassat> ...no modifications to xorg.conf
[18:33] <mgolisch> ghaleb: what graphics card do you have?
[18:33] <sysdoc> Maizcul1, What laptop is it?
[18:33] <jeaton> i accidently selected swfdec as a flash player for firefox, anyway, how do I turn this off and use something else?
[18:33] <nnull> anyone here use handbrake in gnome?
[18:33] <shiMMer> ajassat::see synaptic package amanger
[18:33] <Maizcul1> Sony Vaio PCG-K195BP
[18:33] <pastore> can someone help me pls?! I couldn't be ossessive, but I don't know if someone readed my question
[18:33] <rnr> how to navigate to a folder
[18:33] <almostdvs> i'm trying to understand the deal with ppa's anyone want to explain a little to me?
[18:33] <UserC> can someone help me with configuring xchat-gnome to automatically use bold or colored text?
[18:33] <rnr> in terminal
[18:33] <Maizcul1> Anything else you need to know? It's from 2004 iirc.
[18:33] <ghaleb> mgolisch, Radeon ATI
[18:34] <d12welve> can anyone point me in the direct of some help for connecting ubuntu 8.10 client to sbs2003?
[18:34] <recon69> ﻿ghaleb: if you installed the property drivers they will be up to-date, you can check in system -> admin -> hardware , but sounds like you got the answer from  ﻿mgolisch.
[18:34] <rnr> how to navigate to a directory in terminal
[18:34] <rww> rnr: cd directoryname
[18:34] <rww> !cd | rnr
[18:34] <rww> !bash | rnr
[18:34] <ghaleb> recon69, mgolisch thank you very much, I will check it ouy
[18:34] <rww> there we go :)
[18:35] <UserC> can someone help me with configuring xchat-gnome to automatically use bold or colored text?
[18:35] <sysdoc> Maizcul1, start here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hotkey-setup/+bug/6628
[18:35] <pastore> hi dudes; I need a help; explainin': I've Ubuntu 8.04 and I'm connected to wireless router with abilitate roaming in the wireless preference; the router has dhcp and there aren't problem. Well...I need to set a static ip now; then I proced so: disabled "roaming" and write SSID then set 192.168.0.2 as ip, 255.255.255.0 as broadcast and 192.168.0.1 as gateway; on the router disabled dhcp and set 192.168.0.1 as local address 
[18:35] <d12welve> can anyone point me in the direct of some help for connecting ubuntu 8.10 client to sbs2003?
[18:35] <jeaton> where do I change the flash settings in firefox, i accidently set the flash player as swfdec
[18:35] <anxiolytic> I just got a new monitor, how can I set it up? It's detected but the rest is 1024. I need it at1920x1050
[18:36] <zoopster> ajassat: install nvidia-settings and you will have a lot more control
[18:36] <ghaleb> recon69, mgolisch  hardware drivers shows : This driver is required to fully utilise the 3D potential of some ATI graphics cards, as well as provide 2D acceleration of newer cards.:
[18:36] <Brandan> anyway I could use IRC using outgoing port 80 on ubuntu?
[18:36] <ghaleb> the driver is activated and currently in use
[18:36] <Brandan> School blocks every port but outgoing 80 and 21
[18:37] <nnull> Brandan¬ bet 443 is open also
[18:37] <recon69> ﻿ghaleb: well, you got the property driver installed then and thats not the issue.
[18:37] <Brandan> let me check
[18:37] <UserC> can someone help me with configuring xchat-gnome to automatically use bold or colored text?
[18:38] <ghaleb> recon69, but it's perfect when no visual effects are active
[18:38] <Brandan> They have 22 SSH wtf? 81 111 443 3128
[18:38] <UserC> can someone help me with configuring xchat-gnome to automatically use bold or colored text?
[18:38] <Brandan> anyways to use a irc like that
[18:38] <sysdoc> UserC, clk Settings>prefs>
[18:39] <Brandan> our school as a stupid scanner to make sure its http
[18:39] <rww> Brandan: use a web IRC client like mibbit.com or something
[18:39] <Brandan> The blocked mibbit
[18:40] <Brandan> IP: 	  	 10.63.116.235 	  Category: 	  	 CHAT
[18:40] <Brandan> Access is denied
[18:40] <pumpkin_> Is the sdb i see in 8.10 a PATA master or slave device ? (i don't know the layout, it's a remote server)
[18:40] <nord_> hey guys how do I know if I have ndiswrapper already installed?
[18:41] <UserC> sysdoc: i'm using xchat-gnome it's not exactly the same and the options are different
[18:41] <rww> Brandan: take it up with your network administrator. Looks like your school doesn't want you using irc on their network, and it /is/ their network after all =/
[18:41] <almostdvs> i'm having trouble understanding the deal with ppa's anyone have enlightenment
[18:41] <Brandan> My network adminsitator is accross town
[18:41] <Brandan> gotta go :)
[18:42] <maxb> almostdvs: Explain your doubt more concisely
[18:42] <nord_> how do I know if I have ndiswrapper alreay installed?
[18:42] <rww> almostdvs: all launchpad users (which includes Ubuntu devs and normal people) have access to the Personal Package Archive system. If they know how, they can upload packages to it which can be added to sources.list files and installed with apt-get
[18:42] <CaShMoNey> nord, type ndiswrapper in the console and see if you get the --help option
[18:42] <rww> almostdvs: if you have a specific question, go ahead and ask; odds are someone will know the answer
[18:42] <recon69> ﻿ghaleb: well, would say to leave visual effects off then.
[18:43] <henchie> Hi! I have a problem with my soundcard. It was doing just fine until yesterday. Now i cant hear anything. When I try to configure it in the sound preference menu i get the folowing message "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kunde inte öppna ljudenheten för uppspelning" (the last phrase is swedish and means "Could not open sound unit for playback" Anyone have any idea?
[18:43] <nord_> CaShMoNey, thanx
[18:43] <ghaleb> recon69, I see .. unfortunately, it's a bit a mazing
[18:43] <Kulkarni> Hi All, vpn stopped working in my ubuntu from yesterday
[18:43] <ghaleb> recon69, okay, thank you very much
[18:44] <Kulkarni> when i run sudo vpnc myconf i get this error : "vpnc: xauth packet unsupported:  (ISAKMP_N_ATTRIBUTES_NOT_SUPPORTED)(13)"
[18:44] <nnull> anyone know where the option to output to tv in preferences is guys?
[18:44] <nnull> anyone know where the option to output to tv in preferences is guys? (in vlc)
[18:44] <CaShMoNey> Kulkarni: Did you by any chance recently update?
[18:45] <recon69> ﻿henchie: have you tried killing pulse audio in system monitor?
[18:45] <CaShMoNey> nnull: it's in the xorg.conf
[18:45] <nnull> CaShMoNey¬ nono i know how to do that, theres supposed to be something in vlc that can do it too apperntally
[18:45] <Kulkarni> CashMOney: ubuntu update? i guess not. I updated vpnc when it stopped working
[18:46] <CaShMoNey> Kulkarni: Make sure you've updated the encryption stuff too
[18:46] <shiMMer> i use 100% ubuntu but i still can see windows xp pro in boot list menu.how to remove it??
[18:46] <rww> shiMMer: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/sources.list and remove references to Windows near the bottom of the file, then run sudo update-grub
[18:47] <CaShMoNey> shiMMer: You can edit your /boot/grub/grub.conf
[18:47] <almostdvs> maxb: rww: i recently added a ppa (empathy/telepathy) and i usually just have to checkmark i want to go ahead and install without authentication. but this just wants to install like 75% of the unauthenticated packages. and it's apparent reasoning is that they are unauthenticated. shouldn't i be in control of this and i guess i'm confused about a little more, but can't describe it real well
[18:47] <Kulkarni> cashMoney: what all encryption stuff i shud be updating?
[18:47] <henchie> recon 69: Thank you! That worked! Just because I want to learn I have to ask, why did that help?
[18:47] <Flannel> rww, shiMMer, CaShMoNey: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst, and make sure it's outside (generally after) the ## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST (or before the begin)
[18:47] <CaShMoNey> well vpn usually have shtuff like ssl and what not. Maybe there's an update for those
[18:48] <recon69> ﻿shiMMer: but have a boot disk ready and make a backup in case you screw it up :)
[18:48] <rww> Flannel, shiMMer: Sorry, I get the two mixed up all the time O_O
[18:48] <CaShMoNey> Flannel: Sorry, my bad. LOL I'm so used to Gentoo with their grub.conf
[18:48] <shiMMer> that ok..
[18:49] <shiMMer> i try googling more
[18:49] <Maizcul1> Foiled again. access denied >.<
[18:49] <rww> almostdvs: I'm not sure what you mean. Try adding --allow-unauthenticated to the apt-get command (sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated install whatever). If that doesn't help, pastebin the entire output.
[18:49] <recon69> ﻿henchie: then ubuntu pulseaudio install in a bit buggy and it gets confused sometimes. killing the pulseaudio process forces it to restarst
[18:49] <Frxstrem> Doesn't Ubuntu Studio have an option to install inside Windows?
[18:49] <rww> Frxstrem: ask in #ubuntustudio
[18:49] <CaShMoNey> Frxstrem: I think it depends on the release
[18:50] <Flannel> Frxstrem: With Wubi, yes.  Ubuntu (all flavors) can use wubi
[18:50] <nord_> how do I restart my network? %) haven't been on linux for 2 years
[18:50] <xenoterracide_> are there current packages for azureus and tomcat for 8.04 anywhere?
[18:50] <CaShMoNey> Flannel: they definitely can, but are they default installed on the installation medium?
[18:50] <faqeer> how to talk photo whit webcam
[18:51] <CaShMoNey> xenoterracide_: I wouldn't recomment azureus
[18:51] <CaShMoNey> xenoterracide_: try Transmission :)
[18:51] <henchie> recon69: Ok, Thanks!
[18:51] <Maizcul1> Gahh it's just throwing me errors
[18:51] <xenoterracide_> CaShMoNey: I like azureus/vuze. but that still doesn't answer my question
[18:51] <Maizcul1> I'm a failn00b =[
[18:52] <quar> hello, how can i fix playing my divx movies , they are "jumping" frames are frome time to time hangedover - what can i do to have good quality movie without any second long hangs ?
[18:52] <nord_> how do I restart my network?
[18:52] <CaShMoNey> quar, which media player are you using?
[18:52] <almostdvs> rww: it's not that much...   The following packages have been kept back:
[18:52] <almostdvs>   empathy libempathy-common libempathy-gtk-common libempathy-gtk15
[18:52] <almostdvs>   telepathy-salut
[18:52] <CaShMoNey> quar: also, which video drivers are you using?
[18:52] <Flannel> CaShMoNey: If you give me a CD image repository, I can tell you (I can't seem to find one with CDs right now)
[18:52] <quar> CaShMoNey: it is on all players
[18:52] <scham> hello
[18:53] <CaShMoNey> quar: so then what video drives & graphics card are you using?
[18:53] <scham> I have some problem..
[18:53] <quar> CaShMoNey: how can i check my video driver ?
[18:53] <Flannel> almostdvs: That's when you run `sudo apt-get upgrade`, right?  try `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` instead
[18:53] <Kulkarni> CashMOney: thanks for non-stop response :) im trying to check my question on vpnc irc too.. but no one responding :(
[18:53] <CaShMoNey> quar: I think you can manually find out by cat'ing your xorg.conf
[18:53] <scham> I upgrade 8.10
[18:53] <nord_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking/restart
[18:53] <almostdvs> Flannel: won't that try to take me to jaunty?
[18:54] <nord_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:54] <Flannel> almostdvs: No
[18:54] <CaShMoNey> Kulkarni: No problem. If I can help, I will :)
[18:54] <nnull> man ubuntu is always updating so fast... whhyyy
[18:54] <quar> CaShMoNey: in mine xorg.conf i dont have any driver selected i think...
[18:54] <nnull> makes me suss lol
[18:54] <CaShMoNey> quar, which video card do you have?
[18:55] <fosco__> nnull, cause linux moves so fast
[18:55] <shiMMer> y i cant edit kismet.conf??
[18:55] <CaShMoNey> shiMMer: are you root?
[18:55] <phoenixz> I just changed the /etc/security/limits file, how can I apply these values without rebooting the computer?
[18:55] <scham> wow
[18:55] <scham> so fast
[18:55] <shiMMer> whre to be root??sudo -i??
[18:55] <nnull> fosco__¬ im scared to upgrade to 8.10
[18:55] <nnull> in fear of bugs and non working ness
[18:55] <fosco__> nnull, don't do it if don't want to
[18:55] <nnull> 8.04 is the first version ive been able to get exaclty how i want
[18:55] <rww> shiMMer: gksudo gedit /path/to/kismet.conf
[18:55] <CaShMoNey> shiMMer: Try "sudo passwd root" and create a known password. Then "su root"
[18:56] <Flannel> nnull: So then don't upgrade.  You can stay on 8.04, and upgrade to 10.04 when it comes out
[18:56] <nnull> without submitting bug reports and waiting for it to be resolved
[18:56] <scham> I have wilreless network-manaer...
[18:56] <recon69> ﻿nnull: just stick with the 8.04 version and accept the updates
[18:56] <Flannel> CaShMoNey, shiMMer: Please don't enable the root account, theres no reason to, and you can use sudo instead.
[18:56] <Flannel> !noroot | CaShMoNey
[18:56] <meganox> nnull: ubuntu is made up of thousands of packages maintained by different people, whenever one is updated, "ubuntu" is updated
[18:56] <quar> CaShMoNey: how can i check which video card do i have ?
[18:56] <rmn> is it possible to force drives to be spun down to a complete stop, as opposed to just spinning down to idle?
[18:56] <CaShMoNey> quar:   try lspci
[18:56] <xenoterracide_> how do I make sure after removing a package there aren't any uneeded deps still installed
[18:57] <Maizcul> I'm failing quite hard at getting this "fn" key to work
[18:57] <rww> meganox: that was very... zen...
[18:57] <recon69> ﻿quar: system->admin-Hardware
[18:57] <shiMMer> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[18:57] <quar> CaShMoNey: i tried it show only that it is intell graphic card
[18:57] <shiMMer> got that error
[18:57] <Maizcul> i've tried 3 times to follow this forums guide but it hates me.
[18:57] <shiMMer> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[18:57] <CaShMoNey> quar: alright, well I would suggest to you, to google search i860 I believe that's it
[18:57] <Flannel> shiMMer: You didn't use gksu with gedit, did you?
[18:57] <shiMMer> i already sudo -i
[18:57] <quar> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[18:57] <nnull> quar¬ bash your case open with a brick, rip the card out of the motherboard and hold it close to your eyes to zoom in on the brand and type
[18:57] <quar> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[18:57] <shiMMer> no
[18:58] <meganox> shiMMer, CaShMoNey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:58] <shiMMer> start reading
[18:58] <dick-richardson> I added a cd drive to my system, but ubuntu doesn't see it
[18:58] <dick-richardson> do I need to add it to fstab or something?
[18:58] <almostdvs> Flannel: will i have to use that command instead of the regulare ugrade one whenever i want to upgrade?
[18:59] <Flannel> shiMMer: Go to your desktop, hit alt-f2, then in the box type gksu gedit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[18:59] <recon69> ﻿dick-richardson: I would check you cabling / jumpers are set correctly
[18:59] <dick-richardson> it's listed in the BIOS, and I can boot from it...
[18:59] <rww> Flannel: is there any difference between gksu and gksudo?
[18:59] <meganox> !deborphan | xenoterracide_
[18:59] <dick-richardson> how do I found out what /dev it is?
[18:59] <Flannel> rww: Not anymore, no
[19:00] <CaShMoNey> lol so the simple explination of sudo is security by obscurity
[19:00] <recon69> ﻿dick-richardson: have you tried putting a CD in it?
[19:00] <dick-richardson> yes
[19:00] <Flannel> almostdvs: "upgrade" will only make the versions of packages you have installed newer.  dist-upgrade will install new dependencies (of the same packages you already have).  What's apparently happeend is the PPA has added more depends.  You also need dist-upgrade to install new kernel versions (since linux-generic depends on linux-image-version1 and now it depends on linux-image-version2, a new package)
[19:00] <Flannel> CaShMoNey: That's not true.
[19:00] <dick-richardson> it's not displayed. the 2nd drive isn't listed in the fstab
[19:00] <quar> CaShMoNey: i think i have Intel GMA X4500MHD card
[19:00] <rww> CaShMoNey: no. And if you want to dicuss usage of sudo versus su, wander over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:00] <dick-richardson> when the cd is in the first drive, it is
[19:01] <CaShMoNey> quar: I believe all intel cards have the same xorg driver
[19:01] <xenoterracide_> ubottu: thanks
[19:01] <B3z3rk3r> lol
[19:01] <recon69> ﻿dick-richardson: and your checking in places->computer for the drive?
[19:01] <dick-richardson> yes...it's not listed
[19:01] <dick-richardson> nor is it in the fstab
[19:01] <CaShMoNey> Flannel: It is. It's also by what you know
[19:01] <quar> CaShMoNey: so what should i do ? also mine KDE works quite strange, and on minimizing/maximizing of findows i see bushes
[19:02] <dick-richardson> I could add it to the fstab if I knew how to tell what /dev it was
[19:02] <B3z3rk3r> anyone in here sucessfully running GTX280 with 8.10 ?
[19:02] <CaShMoNey> quar: that's because you don't have your video card driver mentioned in the xorg.conf
[19:02] <zanberdo> what is the standard gnome tool used to view images?
[19:02] <CaShMoNey> quar: I had somewhat of the same problem
[19:02] <rww> zanberdo: eog
[19:02] <zanberdo> coming from kubuntu, I tend to use gwenview and would like to use the gnome equivelant
[19:02] <CaShMoNey> quar: except mine is an nvidia card
[19:02] <zanberdo> rww: thanks
[19:02] <rww> zanberdo: (stands for Eye Of Gnome)
[19:02] <MHz128> hello world!
[19:02] <afief> dick-richardson, you could try mounting your /dev/sd[abcde][1234565789] and seeing which one you need
[19:03] <Flannel> CaShMoNey: No, it's not.  But as rww said, this is somewhat offtopic, and I'd be happy to continue discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:03] <Kulkarni> can i upgrade required packages only for vpnc?
[19:03] <dick-richardson> there's no way to tell what /dev a drive is mapped to without trying all possible combinations in hopes that you stumble across the right one?
[19:03] <MHz128> After installing an app using apt-get, is the package file(s) stored somewhere on the hd?  I have used apt-get to install something, even when I didn't have an internet connection....
[19:03] <quar> CaShMoNey: so how to put mine video card to xorg.conf ?
[19:04] <Flannel> Kulkarni: sudo apt-get install vpnc
[19:04] <Flannel> MHz128: /var/cache/apt/archives/ is where they go, but you can also install stuff through straight deb files, etc.
[19:04] <Kulkarni> Flannel: i have installed it.. and everything working fine, today im getting this error : " xauth packet unsupported"
[19:04] <Flannel> MHz128: If you're looking to transfer those packages elsewhere via sneakernet, you might be interested in AptOnCD
[19:04] <Flannel> !aptoncd | MHz128
[19:05] <MHz128> Flannel,  they are stored there until I remove them "completely" from the system?
[19:05] <MHz128> coool!
[19:05] <zanberdo> rww: how about for pdf? I used to use kpdf.
[19:05] <rww> MHz128: either that or something issues sudo apt-get clean
[19:05] <rww> zanberdo: evince
[19:06] <Ian_Corne> where do i report when a package that's recommended has no installation candidate ?
[19:06] <zanberdo> rww: thanks
[19:06] <Flannel> MHz128: Um, depeding on preferences, they may be automatically cleaned once those versions are taken out of the repositories (versionA is removed when versionB is in the repos, etc).  And apt-get autoclean can do this manually, apt-get clean will remove all of them
[19:06] <Flannel> !bugs | Ian_Corne
[19:06] <CaShMoNey> quar: give me a couple minutes
[19:06] <CaShMoNey> I'm google'ing it for you
[19:06] <MHz128> Flannel, thanks!
[19:06] <Flannel> Kulkarni: I don't know.  It could be a recommended package instead of a dependency, or it might just be that it doesn't support it.
[19:06] <quar> CaShMoNey: ofc.
[19:06] <recon69> ﻿﻿quar: have you looked in System->Admin->Hardware
[19:07] <zanberdo> rww: sorry, one more (for now): gui ftp replacement for kfptgrabber
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> well it's so much a bug is it?
[19:07] <quar> recon69: im using kubuntu , dont have system->admin->hardware in menu
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> i know about launchpad ofcource :p
[19:07] <CaShMoNey> quar: what's ofc?
[19:07] <bor1> (hardy -> intrepid upgrade) ﻿When running 'apt-get dist-upgrade -s' (hardy -> intrepid), I get the error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libsasl2-2". The update-manager graphical tool doesn't work either, possibly for the same reason. apt-get install libsasl2-2 fails with the same error. Ideas?
[19:07] <recon69> ﻿quar: haa, ok
[19:07] <rww> zanberdo: what's it do?
[19:07] <quar> CaShMoNey: ofcause :)
[19:07] <quar> CaShMoNey: ofcourse ;) :)
[19:08] <CaShMoNey> quar: alright I think I found a link that will help you
[19:08] <CaShMoNey> http://www.claudiocamacho.org/tech/sr11m_debian.php#graphics
[19:08] <zanberdo> rww: a pretty simple ftp utility. manages one to many files. nice gui. reduces to a tray icon, that sort of thing.
[19:08] <quar> im checking/reading
[19:09] <rww> zanberdo: Places > Connect to Server or gwget, depending on what exactly you want
[19:09] <zanberdo> rww: I will check it out
[19:09] <m4rc0> hey you guys... I use ubuntu 8.10. I like to install an gui-less system... where and what do I need to do to change boot options?
[19:10] <CaShMoNey> m4rc0: Try the server edition
[19:10] <m4rc0> ok
[19:10] <m4rc0> not the standard then
[19:10] <CaShMoNey> no..
[19:10] <m4rc0> thanks
[19:10] <MHz128> Alt-F2 is able to figure out which program to open based on file type. ie. /use/share/icons/test.png  can this be done via command line somehow?
[19:10] <Pici> m4rc0: You can tell the gdm not to start when you boot your system.
[19:10] <Wyg> Alright, just installed Ubuntu via Wubi. Is there a way I can (in Windows) restart and 'force' Ubuntu to boot?
[19:10] <Wyg> Not like, by default.
[19:10] <zanberdo> rww: how about remote desktop connection such as to a windows box? I was using krdc
[19:11] <rww> zanberdo: tsclient
[19:11] <zanberdo> rww thanks!
[19:11] <CaShMoNey> zanberdo: I've been fond of vnc
[19:11] <Flannel> Wyg: You want it to be set as default permanently?
[19:11] <Wyg> No, just as a one-off.
[19:12] <rww> CaShMoNey: vnc and windows rdc are different, i think
[19:12] <CaShMoNey> rww: I see
[19:12] <Fc> 嗯
[19:12] <Flannel> Wyg: That's done by boot.ini, I... don't think you can change that "just for one" boot.  But you could set it as default, and then change it back later?
[19:12] <CaShMoNey> Flannel: it depends on if it's xp or vista
[19:13] <CaShMoNey> rww: it does depend on if it's xp or vista. Which is it?
[19:13] <mohbana> hello, is anyone running javafx
[19:13] <Wyg> It's XP.
[19:14] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I want to install a new release of Ubuntu. I have a dedicated home partition. I plan on doing a clean install rather than an upgrade. Can I simply point the new install at my home partition and will it pick up my settings in my various applications and accounts in pidgin for example?
[19:14] <Wyg> Basically I've set the timeout to 0 so it boots into XP 'automatically,' a 'silent' install as it were.
[19:14] <rampageoberon> hi, in firefox when i go to print and then under PDF the print button is greyed out, why is this? what can i do t fix it?
[19:14] <Wyg> Is there at least some way to force the boot loader to appear on startup?
[19:14] <mphill> JonathanEllis: for the most part
[19:14] <Flannel> JonathanEllis: Yep.  You'll point it to use the home partition as /home, and not format it
[19:14] <Flannel> Wyg: Yeah, msconfig, and then change the timeout
[19:14] <JonathanEllis> !firefox > rampageoberon
[19:14] <usser> JonathanEllis, yes that will work. although system-wide settings in /etc will be lost
[19:15] <B3z3rk3r> JonathanEllis: yeah, but only to a certain extent iv found. Remember.. backup!!!!
[19:15] <Flannel> Wyg: There's a boot.ini tab, where you can change the timeout
[19:15] <rww> CaShMoNey: What?
[19:15] <CaShMoNey> rww: are you trying to connect to a vista or xp machine via remote desktop
[19:15] <afief> JonathanEllis, don't take my word for it, but I was once burned by a fedora install that messed up when I did the same thing, so personally I install the normal stuff then manually edit fstab to mount my /home
[19:15] <rww> CaShMoNey: You have the wrong person ;)
[19:15] <quar> CaShMoNey: i dont understand exactly from that link what shoud i do..
[19:16] <phoenixz>  I just changed the /etc/security/limits file, how can I apply these values without rebooting the computer?
[19:16] <CaShMoNey> rww: Ahh my bad so many people with q's
[19:16] <rampageoberon> JonathanEllis: umm, not sure that answers/fixes the specific problem. This is only a problem on the desktop, whereas on hte laptop its fine
[19:16] <JonathanEllis> rampageoberon: Do you have the pdf print driver installed?
[19:16] <JonathanEllis> !firefox
[19:16] <mphill> phoenixz: should just start to work
[19:16] <Eypr> hey
[19:16] <CaShMoNey> quar: What you need to do, is edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and make the adjustments to it as described in that link that I had sent you
[19:17] <rampageoberon> JonathanEllis: yes they are installed and it was working earlier
[19:17] <phoenixz> mphill: so changing the file and saving it will automaticaly apply these variables?
[19:17] <Eypr> can eny one help me setup my xorg.conf for 1080P?
[19:17] <JonathanEllis> rampageoberon: Sorry. I was intending to point you in the direction of #firefox to ask your question if noone here can help you.
[19:17] <mphill> phoenixz: yes
[19:17] <phoenixz> mphill: thanks!
[19:17] <aboSamoor> can I use live cd with a machine with 160 MB ?
[19:17] <mphill> phoenixz: lemme check something
[19:17] <m4rc0> CaShMoNey: about the server-edition. I really like a minimal install
[19:17] <phoenixz> mphill: sure
[19:17] <rampageoberon> JonathanEllis: thanks :)
[19:17] <CaShMoNey> m4rc0: You can, You have a choice on what to install
[19:17] <quar> CaShMoNey: so can i copy/paste that xorg.conf from link ?
[19:18] <m4rc0> CaShMoNey: thanks
[19:18] <mphill> phoenixz: it might be that they need to relogin, but you don't have to reboot.  It's Linux... :)
[19:18] <rww> !requirements | aboSamoor
[19:18] <CaShMoNey> quar, I would suggest editing your xorg.conf to match it. Make sure you don't have more than one of the same type of "SubSection"
[19:19] <Chun> Hi - how can I change which network adapter is used, on the fly?
[19:19] <phoenixz> mphill: ofcourse there is no reboot necesary :) I klnow that much, but sometimes it requieres a service restart or something like that.. but a relogin is okay, perfect!
[19:19] <UserC> anyone know how do i set xchat to automaticaly use a color code?
[19:19] <phoenixz> mphill: just.. for running processes, the process needs to be restarted, not?
[19:20] <aboSamoor> how can I check the checksum of a image of ubuntu ?
[19:20] <hwilde> Hello.  How can I downgrade to Firefox 2.0 ?
[19:20] <igfud> md5sum "filename" in terminal
[19:21] <mphill> aboSamoor: md5sum image.iso
[19:21] <UserC_> anyone know how do i set xchat to automaticaly use a color code?
[19:21] <UserC_> anyone know how do i set xchat to automaticaly use a color code?
[19:22] <CaShMoNey> UserC_: Maybe check it out in preference
[19:22] <rww> !repeat | UserC_
[19:22] <nnull> when i have 2 seperate x screens, one respsonds slower then the other, which is ok, but i need them reversed so the one thats NOT absoulte is the slow reacting one, any help?
[19:23] <UserC_> CaShMoNey: yeah that didn't help much
[19:23] <hwilde> Hello.  How can I downgrade to Firefox 2.0 ?
[19:23] <mphill> Chun: it has something to do with you routing. I am not sure, that is a good question.
[19:23] <B3z3rk3r> hwilde: why would you want to do that?
[19:23] <Svish> woow??
[19:24] <hwilde> B3z3rk3r, to prove someone wrong.
[19:24] <horst> please help http://tinyurl.com/6387la
[19:24] <igfud> hwilde: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4811890
[19:24] <Svish> what was that?? was it just me who got all that text?
[19:25] <Svish> some new feature of this channel or something?
[19:25] <B3z3rk3r> hwilde: hahaha... best reason iv heard! Im really not to sure about how to do that exactly, perhaps uninstalling and searching for an archived version?
[19:25] <CaShMoNey> Svish: which text were you talking about?
[19:25] <rww> horst: do you have an actual question, or was that spam?
[19:25] <B3z3rk3r> hwilde: or are you specfically trying to downgrade your current install?
[19:26] <B3z3rk3r> hwilde: if the latter is the case, you may want to direct that question to the FF dev team
[19:26] <saleh> #linuxac
[19:26] <hwilde> B3z3rk3r, I am specifically trying to run Firefox 2.0 to see if it works with webex, to see if that is the issue because 3.0 does not seem t owork
[19:26] <jeaton> i somehow selected swfdec for a flashplayer in mozilla firefox, how do i change it to something else?
[19:26] <mphill> Chun: ip route add default via NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN <- use the ip of the interface youw want to use for internet
[19:26] <Pici> hwilde: install the firefox2 package
[19:26] <Svish> CaShMoNey: I joined the channel, and suddenly I was flooded with a whole bunch of text
[19:26] <JonathanEllis> rampageoberon: You might want to check you have the package cups-pdf installed and that you have a pdf printer installed. Or is there a PDF generator built in to Firefox? See http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/print-to-pdf-in-ubuntu-264305.php
[19:26] <Pici> Svish: Like the names of the people in the channel?
[19:26] <CaShMoNey> Svish: Probably some nub spamming
[19:26] <rww> jeaton: sudo apt-get purge mozilla-swfdec
[19:26] <mastershihochief> dual boot vista and ubuntu 8.10 on my system. Grub boot loader worked fine i could go back and forth between vista and ubuntu. I recently mounted the "WINXP" partition(this is the vista partition) on ubuntu so i could access games and run them in wine and get my music. After this i tried going back into vista and it wont boot and gives me the following error: File: \Boot\BCD  Status: 0x0000000f, what can i do to ix it
[19:26] <jeaton> thanks
[19:27] <B3z3rk3r> hwilde: the easiest way would be to simply install the FF2 package
[19:27] <Pici> hwilde: You cannot run both versions of firefox at the same time, so you'll need to close 3 if you want to run 2.
[19:27] <rww> jeaton: assuming you want the non-free flash plugin, you'd then do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:27] <B3z3rk3r> hwilde: im sure a quick gogle will reveal some good links
[19:27] <ArkoldThos> how I make the encrypted folder on intrepid?
[19:27] <JonathanEllis> !windows
[19:27] <Svish> like:
[19:27] <Svish> #omras2 8 All things Online Music Recognition And Search II. <http://www.omras2.org>
[19:27] <Svish> 		#boston.rb 8 Boston Ruby Group || http://bostonrb.org
[19:27] <Svish> 		#xinh 6 Go Fly A Kite
[19:27] <FloodBot2> Svish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <Svish> sorry FloodBot2....
[19:27] <rww> Svish: looks like your client did /list for some reason
[19:27] <Svish> oh
[19:27] <Svish> what is list/
[19:27] <Svish> ?
[19:27] <hwilde> Pici, what is the command to get the source?   apt-source ?
[19:28] <CaShMoNey> it'll list all the users in the channel I believe
[19:28] <Pici> hwilde: apt-get source packagename
[19:28] <TheoPast> Can someone give me a hand securing my network
[19:28] <Svish> wow, lol, /list did it yes...
[19:28] <rampageoberon> JonathanEllis: yes its installed, just confirmed it. It was working fine earlier. Now comparing the print options compared to firefox on the laptop where it works -- there is no job and Image Quality tabs on the desktop and Print button is greyed out.
[19:28] <JonathanEllis> !windows > mastershihochief
[19:28] <Svish> thanks for clearing that up!
[19:28] <rww> CaShMoNey, Svish: nope, it lists channels on the server
[19:28] <rww> CaShMoNey: /names is users in the channel
[19:28] <rampageoberon> JonathanEllis: I can print to PDF from oowriter however so i assume its working correctly
[19:28] <JonathanEllis> mastershihochief: Thats in case noone in here can help you
[19:28] <B3z3rk3r> rww is correct
[19:28] <mastershihochief> ok
[19:29] <JonathanEllis> !cups
[19:29]  * B3z3rk3r hands rww a point
[19:29] <dk> hey, I just installed the latest VirtualBox from their site, but I am getting some weird errors
[19:29]  * rww eats the point
[19:29] <rww> tastes like cookies! </ot>
[19:29] <TheoPast> i want to put a password on it so my neighbors will stop using it
[19:29] <shiMMer> any1 had try http://passcracking.ru/
[19:29] <JonathanEllis> rampageoberon: You have reached the limit of my knowledge I am afraid. You might find this helpful perhaps
[19:29] <B3z3rk3r> lol Theo :P
[19:30] <JonathanEllis> !cups > rampageoberon
[19:30] <Ayabara> is there a terminalcommand I can use to eject my cd?
[19:30] <dk> VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN23QCoreApplicationPrivate19checkReceiverThreadEP7QObject
[19:30] <rww> !ot | shiMMer
[19:30] <ardchoille> Ayabara: eject /dev/device
[19:30] <TheoPast> yeah, i've never actually done it in ubuntu so im not sure how
[19:30] <rampageoberon> JonathanEllis: okay will have a look at that, thanks
[19:30] <Ayabara> ardchoille: kinda logical :) thanks.
[19:30] <JonathanEllis> Ayabara: You may need to unmount it before ejecting it though
[19:31] <CaShMoNey> ardchoille: or you can use the mountpoint to eject
[19:31] <rww> JonathanEllis, Ayabara: I think eject unmounts it too
[19:31] <ardchoille> CaShMoNey: ah, thanks
[19:31] <Lordveda> There is a bug in Gnome appearance preferences dialog app in Ubuntu 8.10.
[19:31] <Ayabara> doh, I had forgotten to unmount it...
[19:31] <j2daosh> ok, i just screwed myself. during the reboot earlier i had to hard off the system because it hang trying to shutdown the ALSA device. No i have no mouse, and the bootup is screwed up
[19:31] <J-23> Hi!
[19:31] <Lordveda> It causes the X server to crash.
[19:32] <JonathanEllis> rww: I wasnt sure. I never do it from the terminal, but I know my CD eject button doesnt work until I unmount the CD
[19:32] <Pici> !bug | Lordveda
[19:32] <recon69> ﻿j2daosh: you tried booting to recovery mode?
[19:32] <apo> Can I ask a metaquestion?
[19:32] <Pici> apo: You just did.
[19:32] <hwilde> Pici, thnx I'll just source it and build it so as not to mess with my current FF3
[19:32] <ardchoille> hehe
[19:32] <apo> Pici: No, that was a metametaquestion.
[19:32] <apo> :D
[19:32] <j2daosh> not yet, i dropped to a shell, init 0'd and then brought it back up
[19:33] <Maizcul> I'm still failing at my "fn" keys =[
[19:33] <CaShMoNey> JonathanEllis: Typically in linux, you have to unmount before ejecting, but if you have an automounter installed then it'll automatically do it upon eject
[19:33] <rww> apo: if it's not Ubuntu-support related, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:33] <rww> apo: if it is, then yes, go right ahead
[19:33] <j2daosh> nope, no mouse
[19:33] <j2daosh> how do i get to recovery mode?
[19:33] <Maizcul> anyone want to help me trying to get "fn" keys working?
[19:33] <hwilde> j2daosh, reboot, hit escape to enter grub menu, choose recovery mode
[19:34] <hwilde> !keytouch | Maizcul
[19:34] <Maizcul> its a laptop
[19:34] <saleh> #linuxac
[19:34] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: I would check out that link
[19:35] <saleh> ?i #linuxac
[19:35] <FM2n> what laptop? msi wind?
[19:35] <Maizcul> sony vaio
[19:35] <rww> saleh: if you're trying to get to #linuxac, type /join #linuxac
[19:36] <kurumin> where are u guys from?, what country is this?
[19:36] <saleh> #linuxac
[19:36] <rww> !english | kurumin
[19:36] <FM2n> my msi wind has jacked up key layouts
[19:36] <mortuis99> i just purchased an external USB IDE HD enclosure.  what do i have to do to mount/recognize it?
[19:37] <FM2n> someone hacked it with a new bios that changed all the keys
[19:37] <FM2n> its awesome
[19:37] <rww> kurumin: so we're from all over the place, but speak only English in this channel
[19:37] <apo> hm, anybody here a vmware and dwm user? When I try unity, vmware simply closes.
[19:38] <mphill> mortuis99: it should just popup on the desktop and in 'places'
[19:38] <CaShMoNey> <-- uses VirtualBox OSE :)
[19:38] <CaShMoNey> and it works flawlessly
[19:38] <B3z3rk3r> CaShMoNey: OSE ?
[19:39] <Maizcul> i cant get the FN key to work in keyboard shortcuts
[19:39] <CaShMoNey> B3z3rk3r: Open Source Edition
[19:39] <j2daosh> system is hanging during the network config in recovery mode
[19:39] <kapipi> Hello, I'm now using Avant Window Manager, and Im wondering if I can get rid of the top gnome panel too without loosing the notification area
[19:39] <B3z3rk3r> CaShMoNey: ah.. :P  thx
[19:39] <apo> CaShMoNey: But are you also running dwm? =P
[19:39] <mortuis99> mphill the drive seems to be running but i dont see it on the desktop
[19:39] <CaShMoNey> explain dwm?
[19:39] <albatros> hi I have a problem... gdm said a few minutes ago in .xsessionserrors "mkdtemp: private socket dir: Too many links" i googled it and the solution was to rm -r /tmp ...but it was a mistake i guess because now gdm won't start because it needs a legitimationfile to write in... can anyone help me? please
[19:39] <FM2n> maicul: sometimes you need to download the vaio's utility driver in order for the FN keys to work propertly
[19:39] <apo> CaShMoNey: minimalistic tiling window manager. http://www.suckless.org/dwm/
[19:40] <FM2n> it's shitty, but some brands do that
[19:40] <Maizcul> i found something on a couple of forums relating to sony_acpi but everything i've tried so far i end up at a barrier along the way with still nonfunctioning fn keys.
[19:40] <Pici> Maizcul: The function key isn't a real meta key, you will only be able to use it with the keys that your laptop has function alternates for.
[19:40] <ravalox> I'm a new Kubuntu user and am wondering what you use for bluetooth connectivity in KDE?
[19:40] <mphill> mortuis99: can you type dmesg | tail -n 5 and paste the result in a private window?
[19:40] <CaShMoNey> apo. it's just a window manager
[19:40] <usser> albatros, sudo mkdir /tmp
[19:40] <TheoPast> i have ubuntu 8.04, do i already have WPA2?
[19:40] <fosco__> ravalox, try /j #kubuntu
[19:40] <apo> CaShMoNey: So? Unity still doesn't work with it. =P
[19:40] <usser> TheoPast, depends on your wireless card
[19:41] <TheoPast> usser: how can i find out
[19:41] <j2daosh> it wont repair in recovery mode, it says the system is busy and wont let me doa sys file check
[19:41] <hml> OT: I need to take a pdf, and remove these 2inch margins on the pdf. I'm using pdfcrop, it's slow as heck. What channel shoudl I be asking in? What man page should I be reading?
[19:41] <albatros> i have typed sudo mkdir /tmp and sudo chmod 777 /tmp ... but it has not helped
[19:41] <CaShMoNey> apo, did you try opening a console and looking at the verbos?
[19:41] <usser> TheoPast, pastebin the output of lspci command
[19:41] <usser> !pastebin | TheoPast
[19:42] <mortuis99> mphill done
[19:42] <CaShMoNey> albatros:  did you try  "chmod 0666" ?
[19:42] <apo> CaShMoNey: It doesn't crash. And Windows is still running in the VM. But I don't get any unity
[19:42] <CaShMoNey> unity?
[19:42] <apo> CaShMoNey: seamless integration of Windows windows
[19:42] <albatros> no i haven't but i will try now thx CaShMoNey
[19:43] <Maizcul> Pici: My laptop shows on F4 in blue a volume slider and a +, basically in XP i just held the FN key, pressed F4 and the volume increased. Still trying to get it to do that in ubuntu >.<
[19:43] <CaShMoNey> apo: nothing is seamless when you refer to windows
[19:43] <recon69> ﻿j2daosh: I would guess you botched something when editing you networking files. and the hard reboot was not the problem.
[19:43] <D3RGPS31> how do i stop X without gdm/kdm/xdm
[19:44] <mphill> mortuis99: unplug it and plug it in again, then run that command and paste the result
[19:44] <apo> D3RGPS31: ctl-alt-backspace
[19:44] <CaShMoNey> D3RGPS31: try init 3
[19:44] <TheoPast> http://paste.ubuntu.com/80987/
[19:44] <D3RGPS31> CaSHMoNey thanks
[19:44] <Pici> Maizcul: That should still work.
[19:44] <TheoPast> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/80987/
[19:44] <hwilde> !keytouch | Maizcul
[19:45] <mortuis99> mphill done
[19:45] <csarven> I have a USB HDD that I've set a Logical partition with ext3. How can I set write access for all users to this drive?
[19:46] <bob_> I am trying to install a new hard drive. I think I finally got it partitioned and formated but when I click on it in "Places" it says I'm not priviledged to mount it. Any ideas?
[19:46] <j2daosh> ok enough of this im going back to windows, yall have fun
[19:46] <usser> TheoPast, well this shows that you dont have a wireless card at all
[19:46] <hwilde> !mount | bob_
[19:46] <CaShMoNey> <-- has given up windows for good :)
[19:46] <CaShMoNey> most viruses out are made especially for doze
[19:46] <TheoPast> usser: lol
[19:46] <mphill> mortuis99: now type mount and paste the result
[19:46] <Maizcul> I'm pretty much back where i started
[19:47] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: what did you try already?
[19:47] <Maizcul> confuzzled >.<
[19:47] <Maizcul> brb
[19:47] <csarven> How can I change the Write access to a USB HDD?
[19:47] <TheoPast> ﻿usser: nothing i've never done it myself
[19:47] <usser> TheoPast, but you sure you have a wifi card?
[19:48] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: What does lscpi say?
[19:48] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: If it says anything about a wifi card, then you have it, just need the module inserted
[19:48] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: scroll up and click my link
[19:48] <usser> CaShMoNey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/80987/
[19:48] <recon69> ﻿TheoPast: and if it's a laptop you may need to turn it on by pressing a button
[19:49] <TheoPast> usser: i just have a belkin wireless router
[19:49] <mgolisch> no theres no wlan card like it seems
[19:49] <Maizcul> back
[19:49] <usser> TheoPast, ah. router is something else, you'll also need a card to access that router
[19:50] <TheoPast> usser: i have a network card in my desktop i put it in
[19:50] <recon69> ﻿TheoPast: you using a laptop or a desktop?
[19:50] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: Hmm it doesn't physically see it. Is it a laptop?
[19:50] <TheoPast> CaSHMoNey: desktop
[19:50] <zanberdo> yikes!  I accidentally removed my application menus (applications, places, etc) with one fell swoop!  How can I return them (easily)?
[19:50] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: and which wireless adapter do you have?
[19:51] <fosco__> zanberdo, right clic the panel and choose Add to panel
[19:51] <fosco__> then search for the gnome menu
[19:51] <mortuis99> mphill i put ANOTHER drive and repluged it in and it came right up
[19:51] <rww> zanberdo: right click a blank spot on your panel, Add to Panel, and chose Menu Bar
[19:51] <mortuis99> i think i have a bad USB cable
[19:51] <rww> zanberdo: (Main Menu just puts one icon with everything in it on your panel, Menu Bar is the thing you used to have)
[19:52] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: westell versalink model327W
[19:52] <albatros> CaShMoNey ... chmod 0666 /tmp did not work now even the login screen wont be viewabel anymore...
[19:53] <CaShMoNey> albatros: won't be viewable? You mean, you haven't tried?
[19:53] <albatros> i have tried it
[19:53] <albatros> but i cant login...
[19:54] <afief> albatros, why not 777?:S tmp should be accessible for everyone
[19:54] <zanberdo> thank you, thank you, and thank you!
[19:54] <mphill> mortuis99: what is the file system of the drive that is not working?
[19:54] <nnull> when i have 2 seperate x screens, one respsonds slower then the other, which is ok, but i need them reversed so the one thats NOT absoulte is the slow reacting one, any help?
[19:54] <albatros> i did  777 than the login screen is fully functional
[19:54] <mphill> mortuis99: what is the file system of the drive that is working?
[19:54] <nenico> hello, i need some help whith seting DMA, i have tried almost everyhing, what i found... but no succes :(
[19:54] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: my bad thats the actual router i don't remember the inside the comp
[19:54] <zanberdo> edit menu and remove from menu are too damn close to one another! :)
[19:54] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: Ya, I'd open it up and look on the card itself
[19:55] <mortuis99> mphill nothing atm i just deleted the partitions and am going to reformat it.  What do u recommend i use?
[19:55] <afief> nnull, you might wanna try asking at #xorg because it's a very technical question... most of us only have one x screen
[19:55] <nnull> afief¬ ok thx
[19:55] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: i am
[19:55] <Maizcul> wtb fixed fn keys >.<
[19:55] <mphill> mortuis99: thats why its not working.  Are you going to use this only under linux? or windows as well?
[19:55] <afief> nnull, sorry I wasn't more helpful
[19:55] <mortuis99> just linux
[19:55] <nnull> afief¬ more helpful then anyone else hehe :)
[19:56] <mortuis99> mphill just linux
[19:56] <afief> nnull, hehe:D guess that's a bonus
[19:56] <mphill> mortuis99: type sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc <- based on what you posted it is sdc but VERIFY IT. then unplug and plug back in
[19:56] <zanberdo> ok, how can I set the dimentions for my gnome-terminal?  I've managed to set the font-size, but I'd like to set the width/height as well
[19:57] <Stooge> is is possible to write  a  script that will delete all files in the system?
[19:57] <Xepra> hrm, I can't get xen running on intrepid :/
[19:57] <usser> Stooge, yea sure
[19:57] <zanberdo> Stooge: yes
[19:57] <AndyB> anyone any advice on setting up grub from xp. i have xp on internal and ubuntu on external but cant boot into usb without grub
[19:57] <CaShMoNey> stooge, why do you want to do that?
[19:57] <zanberdo> Stooge:
[19:57] <zanberdo> Stooge: but it would be bad
[19:58] <Stooge> why not :)
[19:58] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: I think you can go to "run" then type msconfig and edit the boot config
[19:58] <zanberdo> Stooge: if you are looking to wipe your drive, you'd do better to simple use dd and /dev/zero
[19:58] <afief> mphill, don't you have to partition that drive first? aka /dev/sdc1?
[19:58] <albatros> but still gdm wont work without a file to write in... what file does gdm need to survive or in my case be reborn? and it has to be in tmp...
[19:58] <Stooge> dd = double damage?
[19:58] <zanberdo> Stooge: man dd
[19:58] <Stooge> what is dd?
[19:58] <AndyB> CaShMoNey, Excellent, but could you tell me what i should change the boot config to? Im new when it comes to boot settings
[19:58] <mortuis99> mphill check PM
[19:58] <l7> duplicate diskk i think
[19:58] <zanberdo> Stooge: it's a bit-copies
[19:58] <CaShMoNey> Stooge: It'll make your inodes & vnodes zero'd out
[19:59] <zanberdo> dd - convert and copy a file
[19:59] <Stooge> ok thanks
[19:59] <Maizcul> !dd
[19:59] <rww> Stooge: the name's explained at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[19:59] <Stooge> i cant understand a word of what you say so i stop asking :D
[19:59] <mphill> afief: You can, but if its just storage, i don't, sometimes i do
[19:59] <afief> mphill, wow never knew that:D thanks
[19:59] <Maizcul> I know how you feel, a fair amount of this is right over my head too xD
[19:59] <CaShMoNey> Stooge: Inodes and vnodes are descriptors pointing to file allocation
[20:00] <reportin1sjr> how do I clear out swap ram and any corrupt ram? (I'm using about 600mb of ram all together when it should be about 60-70mb)
[20:00] <zanberdo> Stooge: man refers to the use of man pages (manual) that you can call for nearly any 'ix command
[20:00] <zanberdo> so, if you are told something about a command like 'dd' you can type 'man dd' at the cli (command line interface) to get more information about it
[20:00] <Stooge> yes -rd rf *.*
[20:00] <mphill> afief: I think mkfs even asks you if you are sure you want to use the whole disk instead of the partition(s)
[20:01] <afief> mphill, I wonder if I can mkfs a file... I mean everything is a file right?
[20:01] <zanberdo> Stooge: it would have to be more like: sudo rm -rf /.
[20:01] <Eypr> ? eny one how can help me with xorg.conf grafik?
[20:01] <CaShMoNey> mphill: I don't think so. it asks if you're sure if you want to continue
[20:01] <zanberdo> Stooge: but again, I wouldn't recommend it
[20:01] <CaShMoNey> cause data will be lost
[20:01] <CaShMoNey> Eypr: What video card do you have?
[20:01] <Stooge> yes what is the point to delete your all files if you dont loose your data?
[20:01] <Stooge> :D
[20:01] <Eypr> 9600GT
[20:02] <CaShMoNey> Eypr: I can help
[20:02] <Sareth> I'm getting an error "cryptsetup invalid entry in crypttab - " when I run 'update-initramfs -u -k all' after I added a disk to crypttab. I also changed all the [target]s to UUID. Does anyone have experiance with this?
[20:02] <temppy> is there any hotel/community center management software for ubuntu?
[20:02] <CaShMoNey> Eypr: What's wrong? Just want to get it working smoothly?
[20:02] <zanberdo> Stooge: the point is that you'd do better to wipe the disk than to arbitrarily delete files.
[20:02] <Eypr> damm do you now a god place to go look for to get it running ?
[20:02] <zanberdo> Stooge: but I guess it depends upon your goal
[20:03] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: not sure of the type still, the comp is a hp pavilion a710e, i looked it up and didn't find much
[20:03] <reportin1sjr> how do I clear out swap ram and any corrupt ram?
[20:03] <Sareth> reportin1sjr, get a new memory stick
[20:03] <reportin1sjr> Sareth: what?
[20:03] <nnull> i liek tortles
[20:04] <fletch1> This is gonna sound really stupid, but I just installed Ubuntu, and logging into this chat is about the most advanced thing I've done. Where should I go for tutorials to learn?
[20:04] <temppy> reportin1sjr: corrupt ram is a term which describes a hardware problem only solvable by buying new memory
[20:04] <afief> fletch1, what do you want to learn?:D
[20:04] <Sareth> reportinsjr, Corrupt ram means you probably have a bad memory stick. run memtest86 to find out
[20:04] <reportin1sjr> temppy: oh, I mean like from memory leaks.
[20:04] <AndyB> CaShMoNey, Excellent, but could you tell me what i should change the boot config to? Im new when it comes to boot settings
[20:04] <fletch1> everything lol
[20:04] <reportin1sjr> corrupted pointers, whatever..
[20:04] <fletch1> I'm a computer engineer so I'm open to learn but this is completely different
[20:04] <bahadunn> in the network connections box in perferences there is a VPN section but there is no way to add it or anything
[20:04] <afief> fletch1, I just learned how to have ubuntu do all my file management for me, using remote repositories and versioned file systems:D this kind of stuff?
[20:05] <kansan> is there a good way of doing a diff?  thats easy to understand?  i used diff.. but i dont really understand whats going on?
[20:05] <bahadunn> is there something extra I need to make it available?
[20:05] <reportingsjr> temppy: there is a command for it, I just can't remember it
[20:05] <temppy> reportin1sjr: kill the program that is leaking memory.  The OS will, then clean it up
[20:05] <ardchoille> fletch1: start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[20:05] <afief> fletch1, sweet:D I'm studying to become an engineer
[20:05] <fletch1> thanks, yeah I don't really know the linux commands for terminal and stuff like that
[20:05] <reportingsjr> temppy: well, currently I'm using about 600mb of ram apparently, but adding up all of the ram any processes are using brings it to maybe 100mb
[20:05] <fletch1> yeah computer engineering?
[20:05] <ardchoille> !terminal | fletch1 this will help with commands
[20:05] <fletch1> ardchoille, thanks
[20:06] <ardchoille> yw
[20:06] <afief> fletch1, yeah computer engineer
[20:06] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: is there something under System i can goto to put a password on my network
[20:06] <fletch1> ubottu, thanks
[20:06] <ardchoille> fletch1: This is a good bookmark: http://www.tldp.org/
[20:06] <mortuis99> mphill thank you for your help and patience
[20:06] <ardchoille> !thanks | fletch1
[20:06] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: a password? It really depends on the protocol
[20:06] <afief> fletch1, first tutorial: on irc when you talk to someone put his name in front of the sentence:) it helps people understand each other
[20:07] <paul68> how do I install the ubuntu restricted packages again ?
[20:07] <fletch1> afief, thanks lol
[20:07] <Maizcul> Oh but I like to confuse people
[20:07] <rww> paul68: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:07] <rww> paul68: replace ubuntu with kubuntu or xubuntu if you're using them
[20:07] <Sareth> Is there a channel on freenode for linux encryption
[20:07] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: i just don't want my neighbors using my net
[20:07] <dimedo> hi, where can i configure which window manager gets started with my session?
[20:07] <mphill> mortuis99: no problem, glad to help
[20:08] <w3rd_> hey guys im trying to setup hybrid ircd on ubuntu 8.0.4 is there a good doc or url that anyone has on how to configure the conf?
[20:08] <fletch1> thanks guys, I'm gonna bookmark all this stuff and and check it out
[20:08] <paul68> rww: thanks I forgot the extra part lol
[20:08] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: You can try Mac filtering on your router
[20:08] <mphill> dimedo: at the login screen, you can select it
[20:08] <wysiwyg> __
[20:08] <CaShMoNey> but that really isn't an Ubuntu question
[20:08] <rww> dimedo: at the login screen, go to the Action button and hit Session. It should let you select it and make it default
[20:08] <mphill> its called the 'session'
[20:08] <temppy> reportingsjr: well, you can do this, but I don't think there is much of a point: sudo tee 3 | /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[20:08] <dimedo> rww, mphill: thanks
[20:08] <afief> fletch1, seriously just think about a common task you do and think "okay let's check out a tutorial on how to do this in shell"
[20:08] <TheoPast> ﻿CaShMoNey: you care to help me try that ive never done it before
[20:09] <cxo> Can you apt-get openoffice-3.0 on 8.04?
[20:09] <temppy> reportingsjr: hmm, I don;t think thats correct, one sec
[20:09] <afief> fletch1, here's a mini tutorial for you: if you have an operation you want to do on MANY files you can do it this way: for file in *; do echo "do some operation on $file"; done
[20:09] <recon69> ﻿TheoPast: if you want to secure your network you need to set that up in you router, open firefox and put 192.168.1.1 in as the address to get you routers setup page. be careful as when you secure your router as you will lose you connection until you setup the password on you computer to match.
[20:10] <CaShMoNey> TheoPast: Okay. Umm private message me
[20:10] <rww> cxo: It's not in the official repositories for hardy /or/ intrepid yet. There was a PPA for it, but that PPA is currently down. Long story short, no.
[20:10] <fletch1> afief, yeah that's what I've been doing so far, trying to get more advanced now...you say shell?
[20:10] <afief> fletch1, the thing I just gave you is in the shell
[20:10] <fletch1> afief, ok thanks, I'm out guys
[20:11] <cxo> rww, will it ever make the repos? or will it only be in 9.xx?
[20:11] <rww> cxo: it'll be in intrepid-backports. Not sure about hardy-backports. It'll definitely be in jaunty.
[20:11] <BinaryDragon> Hello everyone
[20:11] <LjL> !latest | cxo
[20:11] <ardchoille> cxo: usually after relase we only see bug fixes and security updates
[20:11] <afief> cxo, 9.04 for sure
[20:11] <rww> cxo: (well. It'll /probably/ be in i-b, anyway)
[20:12] <Maizcul> anyone help me with the sony fn keys? it's probably going to take a bit of time, i'm kinda n00b xD
[20:12] <user2> hey all
[20:12] <user2> inexplicably flash is only working for 2 outta three users on this computer
[20:12] <cxo> Thats one of main gripes with Fedora, they dont update the important stuff Gnome, Firefox, Openoffice
[20:13] <cxo> ^one of my
[20:13] <AndyB> Could anyone offer advice for setting up grub on internal drive from xp? So i can boot ubuntu from usb?
[20:13] <temppy> reportingsjr: echo 3 > sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[20:13] <LjL> AndyB: i don't think you can set up GRUB from inside Windows...
[20:14] <mgolisch> grub4dos
[20:14] <mgolisch> thats what wubi uses
[20:14] <mgolisch> and i showed you the link didnt i?
[20:14] <AndyB> LjL, Do you know any other way i could boot ubuntu? my bios doesnt support boot from USB, but i had it working with grub but then i had to wipe it to fixmbr when windows broke
[20:14] <holst> is python included in all ubuntu installations?
[20:14] <holst> even the minimal ones?
[20:14] <mgolisch> download it put it on your c:\ root add it to the boot.ini create the menu.lst voila!
[20:15] <holst> "No, it just left"
[20:15] <BinaryDragon> yes holt
[20:15] <LjL> AndyB: can't you use a live CD?
[20:15] <BinaryDragon> yes holst
[20:15] <holst> cool. then I will replace my old perl scripts
[20:15] <AndyB> LjL, I tried using live cd and running the "grub-install" command but it says it cant find /boot
[20:15] <BinaryDragon> holst, what are you trying to do,perl got nothing to do with python
[20:15] <chupy> hi, i need help my webcam before i compile a driver works fine but now not how do i uninstall that driver i compile it but sudo make uninstall dont work... what can i do?
[20:16] <BinaryDragon> AndyB
[20:16] <holst> BinaryDragon: python is somewhat simpler than perl to write error-free code with, for me
[20:16] <BinaryDragon> whats the problem with your grub?
[20:16] <LjL> AndyB: well, the problem is that as far as i know, GRUB needs, indeed, to have /boot in some partition. i'm not sure it can be in a FAT/NTFS partition.
[20:16] <Maizcul> I dislike my college, they force VB6 upon you.
[20:16] <dwhsix1> am I right in thinking that "aptitude -q update" and "apt-get update" have the same effect?
[20:16] <mgolisch> AndyB: you cant do that if you dont have a deciacted partition for grub
[20:16] <mgolisch> AndyB: use grub4dos
[20:17] <BinaryDragon> sorry holst, i thought you was trying to run perl scripts with python
[20:17] <AndyB> BinaryDragon, I had to remove grub, as it wouldnt boot windows, so i ran fixboot fixmbr from xp recovery. But then i had no grub to boot into ubuntu
[20:17] <AndyB> mgolisch, Ill read up on it now thanks
[20:17] <temppy> is there any hotel/community center management software for ubuntu?
[20:17] <LjL> AndyB, but when you *had* GRUB, did you also have an Ubuntu partition on your boot drive?
[20:18] <AndyB> LjL no i only had ubuntu on my external drive, no partition on internal
[20:18] <erik_> hey, whats the terminal command to edit the "role" of the server?
[20:18] <Guest69416> where you can install all tools/libs to compile a source package for instance
[20:18] <BinaryDragon> AndyB, look in google for a grub disk that will let you boot in to ubuntu and even replace the windows mbr, once you do that you can go a modif the grub.cong file to add xp to the grub menu at boot up
[20:18] <LjL> AndyB: uhm, i'm really unsure how GRUB might work in such a configuration... did you always keep that external drive connected?
[20:18] <Pici> mescon: What exactly are you looking to do?
[20:19] <rrittenhouse> In network-manager what does "System-setting" (the checkbox) actually do?
[20:19] <LjL> mescon: is that a question? if yes, "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>"
[20:19] <BinaryDragon> LjL, is not really hard to configure all he have to know is the partition where xp is located
[20:19] <ramen> can the cd/dvd creator burn .iso?  or what app should i use?
[20:19] <temppy> AndyB: try googling "Dedicated GRUB partition"
[20:19] <AndyB> LjL, yes it was annoying but i had to keep the usb connected
[20:19] <Pici> mescon: build-essential is the package needed to compile things generally.
[20:19] <AndyB> temppy, Thanks will do now
[20:19] <LjL> BinaryDragon: but can /boot be in a Windows partition?
[20:19] <mescon> thanks Pici
[20:20] <ardchoille> ramen: it can, I did it a few times yesterday
[20:20] <AndyB> BinaryDragon, Cool ill google that, think i might be able to download the iso and burn the disk myself
[20:20] <mescon> tasksel was the command I was looking for... sorry for the poorly formulated question.
[20:20] <LjL> AndyB: then you can certainly replicate that setup - although having a GRUB partition on your internal drive would certainly be handier...
[20:20] <mgolisch> or just use grub4dos
[20:20] <ramen> ardchoille: cool ty.  um how?  haha can i just tell it to burn the .iso file to the disk and it will do it correctly?
[20:20] <BinaryDragon> LjL no, grub dose not load windows,when ou pick windows in the grub menu ,grub just let the windows MRD do the booting
[20:21] <ardchoille> ramen: what happened with me yesterday is it asked if I wanted to burn it as an image, it worked
[20:21] <BinaryDragon> in other words there is no /boot in windows
[20:21] <LjL> BinaryDragon: GRUB still needs /boot/device.map and other files to *start* at all, though
[20:21] <ardchoille> ramboza: Although Brasero (should be installed) can do it too
[20:21] <ramen> cool, thanks :D peace
[20:21] <LjL> BinaryDragon: if you have no /boot/grub, how could GRUB ever start up?
[20:21] <mgolisch> grub4dos its one executable and can be started from the windows bootloader, thats the best aproach
[20:21] <AndyB> BinaryDragon, So do you suggest installing GRUB from CD or set up a dedicated partition
[20:22] <BinaryDragon> i think that is replaced by /boot/grub/grub.conf
[20:22] <mgolisch> it wont affect anything on the internal disk
[20:22] <Sareth> LjL, GRUB can be placed inside the MBR of a disk without /boot/grub
[20:22] <BinaryDragon> AndyB, no need for Partition
[20:22] <AndyB> BinaryDragon, Great thanks, so ill go download the iso
[20:23] <mgolisch> whatever
[20:23] <BinaryDragon> you can just reinstall grub in the MBR so it can load linux, once in linux just configure grub.cong file with the XP
[20:23] <AndyB> mgolisch, Thanks im still reading this page, i am not ignoring your answer its the one im reading the most =]
[20:23] <l7> is grub better than lilo btw?
[20:23] <mgolisch> l7: yeah i think so atleast
[20:24] <mgolisch> its more flexible atleast
[20:24] <l7> ah
[20:24] <ambrose> i need help i currently can not find a fix for the memory stick pro
[20:24] <ambrose> on ubuntu 8.10
[20:24] <l7> is grub better than refit as well?
[20:24] <bakarat_> what's the easiest way to sync the audio on an mkv when it is a bit off?
[20:24] <bimberi> !better
[20:24] <BinaryDragon> l7, what is refit?
[20:24] <l7> BinaryDragon: i tihnk it's another type of bootloader
[20:25] <ambrose>  i need help i currently can not find a fix for the memory stick pro
[20:25] <fosco_> refit? never heard about it
[20:25] <ambrose> ubuntu 8.10
[20:25] <Thev00d00> BinaryDragon: mac multi operating system bootloader
[20:25] <BinaryDragon> the 2 most used are LILO and GRUB
[20:25] <fosco_> ambrose: why do you think you need a fix?
[20:26] <ambrose> because it's not loading it
[20:26] <ambrose> it detects it but does not load
[20:26] <ambrose> missing tifm_ms
[20:26] <fosco_> insert the card, rund dmesg and see what the system is doing
[20:26] <ambrose> i did
[20:26] <dimedo> hi again, i have a problem with my xserver: since installation of a new gpu and reinstallation of the restricted nvidia driver when i startup gnome, metacity seems to be started as window manager and i have a us keyboard layout. if i then restart with CTRL SHIFT BACKSPACE my preferred setting (compiz and german keyboard) are successfully loaded without me changing anything. any ideas how to load them directly on startup or what is going up
[20:26] <dimedo>  here?
[20:26] <ambrose> it detects the memory card but does not load it
[20:27] <ambrose> i had a fix for 8.04 but 8.10 no fix
[20:27] <ambrose> i searched most forums before coming here.
[20:27] <ambrose> no luck
[20:27] <chupy> hi, i need help my webcam before i compile a driver works fine but now not how do i uninstall that driver i compile it but sudo make uninstall dont work... what can i do?
[20:27] <temppy> !enter > ambrose
[20:27] <dimedo> btw im on hary amd64
[20:27] <dimedo> hardy
[20:27] <quellhorst> I just did an apt-get install gcc, yet I'm still getting checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[20:27] <mgolisch> chupy: remove it manualy
[20:27] <Pici> quellhorst: install the build-essential package
[20:28] <ambrose> does any body have a fix or suggestions?
[20:28] <mgolisch> ambrose: look at dmesg
[20:28] <aefjfjepf> irc://66.252.13.188/12chan
[20:28] <ambrose> once again i did
[20:28] <ambrose> please stop telling me to look there
[20:29] <ambrose> like i said it tell me its detected in socket 0:0
[20:29] <ambrose> but does not load
[20:29] <chupy> mgolish: how?
[20:29] <alkamid> I have a problem with VNC via SSH
[20:30] <TJ-42> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 -- in the wireless connections there is a checkbox that says "System Setting".  What does this do?
[20:30] <ambrose> any suggestions?
[20:30] <alkamid> i put vncviewer user@host localhost:0
[20:30] <mgolisch> chupy: delete the files it installed using rm
[20:30] <ubuntu_> hi everyone I have a serious problem......I recently tried to get ubuntu off this computer but now everytime I restart my computer it says grub 1.5 loading error...can anyone help me?
[20:30] <alkamid> channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[20:30] <alkamid> vncviewer: VNC server closed connection
[20:30] <temppy> ambrose: if it worked in 8.04, and now doesn't work in 8.10, have you considered filing a bug report?
[20:30] <alkamid> that's what I get
[20:30] <quellhorst> Pici: thanks, that worked.
[20:30] <chupy> but i dont know where are located
[20:31] <ambrose> it worked with a fix, but i seen people file 1
[20:31] <temppy> ubuntu_: if you are trying to run windows, I think you need to boot the windows cd, and run fixmbr
[20:31] <ambrose> i rather not because whats the point
[20:31] <ambrose> it does not fix the problem
[20:31] <ubuntu_> hmm ok
[20:32] <ubuntu_> any other methods just before I run and try that?
[20:32] <bor1> ﻿When running 'apt-get dist-upgrade -s' (hardy -> intrepid), I get the error "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libsasl2-2". The update-manager graphical tool doesn't work either, possibly for the same reason. apt-get install libsasl2-2 fails with the same error. Any ideas?
[20:32] <ambrose> thanks for your support tho guys
[20:32] <mgolisch> chupy: look at the messages from make install it will tell your where it put the files and blame the developer to not have included a proper uninstall make target
[20:32] <mgolisch> ubuntu_: no there is no other method
[20:32] <ambrose> but this is a bit annoying
[20:32] <chupy> ook thanks
[20:32] <ubuntu_> ok thanks guys I'll give it a shot.
[20:33] <ubuntu_> so I type run fixmbr?
[20:33] <ambrose> no fix solutions?
[20:33] <ambrose> any one?
[20:33] <CaShMoNey> ubuntu: for xp?
[20:33] <mgolisch> ubuntu_: you boot the windows cd, in the repair options select recovery console, select your windows installation, enter admin pw , then run fixmbr
[20:33] <mgolisch> if its xp or 2k
[20:33] <DavidCanarias> I have a DVD a friend burnt to disc for me. In one section there are photos in mpg format and the other is a Webcam video converted to mpg. I am trying to copy the DVD to send to a friend but I am finding it pretty impossible to do with all the tools I have. Any ideas please to help me?
[20:34] <ubuntu_> thanks ^^
[20:34] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: Did you try ISO Master?
[20:34] <mgolisch> DavidCanarias: whats the problem with copieng it? almost every tool should be able to do that
[20:34] <Dougwiser> what tools ou got Dave
[20:34] <DavidCanarias> CaSHMoNey: What is ISO Master? Sorry, is it a repos?
[20:34] <hwilde> how can I get the "Lock Screen" button on my top panel?
[20:35] <mker> DavidCanarias, Is it a data dvd? Couldn't you just copy the files in Nautilus?
[20:35] <mgolisch> hwilde: add it to the pannel
[20:35] <hwilde> mgolisch, how
[20:35] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: You're using ubuntu correct?
[20:35] <mgolisch> righht click -> add to panel and select that thing
[20:35] <DavidCanarias> mgolisch: When I right clic on the DVD and copy, I can read it in my computer but my DVD player wont read it? Curious and frustrating no?
[20:35] <hwilde> mgolisch, oh.  duh
[20:35] <hwilde> mgolisch,   type in    /nick CaptainObvious
[20:36] <temppy> bor1: you should pastebin all errors
[20:36] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Yes I am using Intrepid.
[20:36] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: ahh that's another story. Lemme read up a bit and see if I can find some help
[20:36] <Android> Hello
[20:36] <jeaton> what's a good program to burn avi format to dvd?
[20:36] <^A^kira> hello, im trying to install bluetooth device in my ubuntu 8.10... here is the output http://paste.org.ru/?2rhp9a
[20:36] <DavidCanarias> mker: Its a DVD with photos and a webcam video, dont know if this makes it DATA, but I did copy and it didnt work
[20:36] <senorpedro_> is there a better torrent client than transmission?
[20:36] <mker> jeaton, Gnomebaker
[20:37] <temppy> senorpedro_: try deluge, its popular
[20:37] <mker> senorpedro_, better is a matter of taste
[20:37] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: alright. Brasero can help you out with that
[20:37] <^A^kira> all the "rm" lines it says "rm: cannot delete "blabla": Read-only file system
[20:37] <mgolisch> senorpedro_: iam using deluge and i like it realy much
[20:37] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey:  Another very helpful guy, like yourself did help me install a few things in order to copy, but it isn't working. The iso, copy to disc right clic, DeVeDe, K9copy - no luck so if you can help I'd be over the mean really!! Thks
[20:37] <Ridha> hello peeps, when I try o launch world of warcraft or other applicaions, I get a Segmentation Fault error.  I have the latest Nvidia drivers..not sure what to do
[20:38] <senorpedro_> ok i give deluge a try, thx guys
[20:38] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Yes but no way I can get Brasero to work
[20:38] <flima> I have two wireless cards, how do I know both of them are working?
[20:38] <CaShMoNey> ^A^kira: Try rm -f
[20:38] <oly562> Spec:  lastly, and good admin knows, he must modify most if not all scripts, thus making the claim tried and tested only true in env that are not really do much at all, other than typical functions. an ORGAMIN or ORGMIN can go into any enviro and improve all processes, since he has the unique ability to see it all, he see's ladies in red dresses when he walks into the arena
[20:38] <mker> Ridha, can't help you but did you check out the Wine page for it and read the comments? I've found it to be helpful for some other stuff.
[20:38] <mgolisch> flima: iwconfig , do you see two devices there?
[20:38] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: and why's that?
[20:39] <^A^kira> CaShMoNey: im not doing rm, its aptitude trying to rm something
[20:39] <jeaton> thanks
[20:39] <oly562> flima: having wireless issues? sorry,,, what kernel are you running, and what is the wifi card?
[20:39] <flima> mgolisch: I only see one
[20:39] <flima> but I have 2 devices
[20:39] <Ridha> mker, I've searched all over the Wine pages, and all it says is to install the latest Nvidia drivers =/
[20:39] <flima> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[20:39] <flima> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[20:39] <Ridha> which I've done
[20:39] <CaShMoNey> ^A^kira: okay, and is that process still running?
[20:39] <oly562> flima: what client are you using as well , like NetworkManager? something else?
[20:40] <flima> oly562: yea
[20:40] <^A^kira> cas
[20:40] <oly562> good old intel pro/wireless.. whats the kernel?
[20:40] <^A^kira> CaShMoNey: the deamon is running but bluetooth doesn't works
[20:40] <mgolisch> ^A^kira: if it says readonly filesystem something is messaed up quite bad
[20:40] <cordor> what are the software sources i must have? i think i mess the sources.
[20:40] <flima> Linux lima-xps 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 17:53:40 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:40] <mgolisch> ^A^kira: do a filesystem check on the root filesystem
[20:40] <mker> Ridha, Oh too bad, well if you don't get any help here try in the Wine section in Ubuntuforums.org I looked there a few minutes ago and saw a bunch of WoW threads. Sometimes the forums is easier to get an answer in.
[20:40] <^A^kira> mgolisch: ideas how to fix it?
[20:40] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: At one stage it kept tellling me no matter what there wasnt enough space on the disc. I gave up on Brasero when using Hardy. Updated to Intrepid and must say not dedicated much time again..... Do I insert the disc to copy and open Brasero and then what? It has to be a Video DVD no. Remember I have photos and webcam video?????
[20:40] <^A^kira> mgolisch: did it
[20:40] <E-XtraCt> if I have fedora 10 i686 installed on my pc, it will make a problem if i will install ubuntu also ?
[20:40] <kebomix> hello , sometimes when i open videos files , my ubuntu 8.04 freeze and i have to make power off from it  , any solution 4 htat ?
[20:41] <flima> oly562: the intel one seems to be working.. not the broadcom one
[20:41] <Ridha> I'll check there a bit more, thanks mker!
[20:41] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: actually You would select the video project option instead of disc copy
[20:41] <cordor> kebomix: which players/video file format?
[20:41] <flima> it seems to be enabled through the Hardware drivers settings
[20:41] <ubuntu_> oh in light of my prior problem...is there anyway to do it without the windows cd?
[20:41] <CaShMoNey> go to the mount point of your dvd and select all your files
[20:41] <mker> kebomix, think we'll need a little more info than that. what video file? what program? does it freeze with the same file every time?
[20:42] <CaShMoNey> and then drag and drop them into brasero
[20:42] <ubuntu_> oh in light of my prior problem...is there anyway to do it without the windows cd?
[20:42] <mker> ubuntu_, probably not if it's windows you want to keep
[20:42] <mgolisch> flima: if you enabled it there you need to reboot for it to get active
[20:42] <bimberi> E-XtraCt: ok as long as you install them in separate partitions
[20:42] <flima> mgolisch: I have
[20:42] <cs02rm0> does anyone know how i can set default nice levels for applications? preferably in some central way rather than scripting it
[20:42] <TJ-42> does ubuntu 8.10 support wpa2 out of the box?
[20:42] <flima> still "Not in Use"
[20:42] <flima> maybe because the other one is? I dunno
[20:42] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: OK thanks, thats a starting help!! I have put in the disc and opened Brasero OK.... Are you able to help guide me???
[20:42] <bimberi> TJ-42: yes
[20:43] <TJ-42> thanks bimberi
[20:43] <CaShMoNey> sure
[20:43] <mgolisch> cant you just make an iso and burn that?
[20:43] <kebomix> many formats , AVi , Mpeg , RMVB , some times it freeze and some tiems it works good , and it freeze always with totem  and movie player
[20:43] <mgolisch> it must work that way
[20:43] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: Not if it's not readable to an ordinary dvd player without an OS attached to it for codec purposes
[20:44] <E-XtraCt> bimberi, can i create 3 partitions, 1 for ubuntu, 2 for fedora, 3 for junk ?
[20:44] <mgolisch> CaShMoNey: ? its a videodvd every dvd player can read that or isnt it?
[20:44] <CaShMoNey> E-XtraCt: you can. You can have up to 4 primary parititons
[20:44] <CaShMoNey> per hard drive
[20:44] <mgolisch> yeah dos disklabels suck hard
[20:44] <oly562> im using the networkmanager as my client, im running desktop 8.04 LTS, kernel - 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP, and its tricky to switch back and forth from wireless and wired.
[20:44] <mgolisch> i wonder why itsstill used
[20:45] <oly562> i am also using the drivers from a site,, let me see if i can find the link
[20:45] <bimberi> E-XtraCt: sure
[20:45] <cordor> kebomix: computer freeze or X freeze? have you try <ctrl><alt>back space?
[20:45] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: If you have time to help, I think there may be a few other interested people around too!!! I have opened the Video DVD project right now and it seems to have come to a standstill!!!
[20:45] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: yup
[20:46] <PU025> have is among turkish ?
[20:46] <kebomix> cordo: yes i tried , laptop freeze not X server
[20:46] <bimberi> !tr | PU025
[20:46] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: It did? or did it go to a screen that says something about drag and dropping?
[20:46] <mgolisch> mostlikely selecting copy in the filemanager integrated burn thing doesnt copy the disk but its file level reprensentation emulated by the cdriver so videocd/dvds apear to have normal files which are vieable in the filemanager
[20:47] <mgolisch> id still says a direct 1:1 copy should be the exact same
[20:47] <DavidCanarias> kebomix: As you say it seems to be freezing and nothing is happening. I loaded one part and it was fine. The other part is loading and nothing happens, its frozen I think?
[20:47] <mgolisch> and if the original worked the duplicted one should too
[20:47] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: also, make sure you're burning onto a dvd+r dvd
[20:47] <A[D]minS^Work> if u want to add timing in crontab evey 2 hours ...it should be like this * */2 * * * command ?
[20:48] <bingungaja> anyone can help me how to save my fav radio station url in amarok ?
[20:48] <cordor> kebomix: does it freeze while it's not playing movie?
[20:49] <CaShMoNey> bingungaja: try adding it to a playlist
[20:49] <Giraffe> hey, does anybody know anything about integrating eclipse and samba in ubuntu?
[20:49] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Yes I got as far as drag and drop etc. Dragged the first part, no problems. Dragged the 2nd part which is the video and it said loading and seems to have frozen. I have forced quit and will start again. I have only one DVD burner and the original dvd is their so I am trying to copy into my computer first.  From there I want to copy to DVD and I am using a rewritable one? Is this a problem.
[20:49] <bingungaja> CaShMoNey : just save in a playlist ?
[20:49] <kebomix> cordor: no , when i try ti play movie only , sometimes it freeze and sometimes it work ,  i mean same movie David
[20:50] <CaShMoNey> bingungaja: indeed
[20:50] <mgolisch> whats the goal? is it a video dvd or not?
[20:50] <mgolisch> why do you drag some part?
[20:50] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: is this rewritable dvd a "dvd+rw" or "dvd-rw"?
[20:50] <mgolisch> i thought you want to copy the disk?
[20:51] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: he might have the wrong medium for regular dvd players
[20:51] <oly562> flima: do a sudo locate -i mac80211
[20:51] <bingungaja> CaShMoNey : thought that's other way, thx man, actually how to manually add url for radio station in amarok ? (now i just click the link by googling)
[20:51] <oly562> let me know if you have some stdout
[20:51] <mgolisch> draging the video file might fail often for video cds atleast as those dont realy have a filesystem, the files beeing shown are just somekind of abstraction done by the cd/dvd filesystem drivers
[20:51] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: To be honest the DVD is a Grundig DVD RW. All it says is DVD - Rewritable for DATA 2X
[20:52] <oly562> or sudo modprobe mac80211
[20:52] <CaShMoNey> Hmm even on the packaging?
[20:52] <oly562> http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=howto-iwlwifi here is what i used
[20:52] <CaShMoNey> usually the package will tell you
[20:52] <oly562> flima: you have to have the ucode installed
[20:52] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: it does make a difference on the medium you're burning onto
[20:52] <cordor> kebomix: not that im sure your problem, but it seems like hardware problem to me. if i were you, 1. remove/reinstall mplayer(i don't use totem). 2. i would try to run memtest86.
[20:53] <oly562> flima: and the kernel matters , do a uname -a
[20:53] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: I need to put the original DVD to my computer and make 20 copies of them to send to the people who attended the party. All the DVD's I bought are DVD -R could that be a problem then?
[20:53] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: If you can, go to staples or something and pick up a 5pkg of DVD+R dvd's and it should make the world of difference
[20:53] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Well by now I would have had to throw away 20 DVD's which turns out to be costly!!!  jejeje
[20:53] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: definitely
[20:53] <kebomix> cordor:  yeah mplayer mess up with me , it dont work always
[20:54] <kebomix> cordor : it was working fine before
[20:54] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: those dvd's you bought are only for data only
[20:54] <mker> I want to change the home directory of a user that is used for sftp (openssh) but when I do I can't connect to the openssh-server. Here's a longer explanation if anyone feels s/he can help me out. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002948
[20:54] <cordor> kebomix: when is "before"?
[20:54] <almostdvs> can you switch between applications with gnome do?
[20:54] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: the +r's are for video formatting as well as data
[20:54] <Yuva> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/vhmBxz
[20:54] <CaShMoNey> Most of All dvd players only read dvd+r
[20:54] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: are you saying then that +R DVD are for other things as well as DATA??
[20:54] <Yuva> rocknroll@rocknroll-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install compiz sudo: unable to resolve host rocknroll-desktop [sudo] password for rocknroll:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done compiz is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic linux-headers-2.6.24-19 Use 'apt-get autore
[20:54] <IsraelC> hi, someone that knows about darwin stream server?
[20:54] <Yuva> how can launch Compiz
[20:54] <Yuva> guys
[20:55] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: indeed it is
[20:55] <kebomix> cordor : i mean the problem began 2 days ago
[20:55] <sidney> hi everyone. I've a problem. I`m with ubuntu 8.10 but it cannot takes the real ip address through dhcp it takes some local ip address any ideas?
[20:55] <glick> hi
[20:55] <mker> IsraelC, Just ask what you want to know, don't ask if anyone knows anything about something.
[20:55] <A[D]minS^Work> Can anyone help please!!!
[20:55] <Yuva> sidney: its called nat
[20:55] <kebomix> and what is useful of memtest 86 ?
[20:55] <IsraelC> because I have a problem, I get unsopported media tipe, and I don't know why
[20:55] <A[D]minS^Work> if i want to add to crontab task to run every 2 hours
[20:55] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: OK thats a great help, costly to me!!!! Never mind. But getting back to Brasero?? I can't even copy into my computer firstly!!!!
[20:55] <simplexio> sidney: dhcp is broadcast, get first ip offered system
[20:55] <Yuva> sidney: network address translation
[20:55] <A[D]minS^Work> it should be like this * */2 * * * command  ?
[20:55] <TJ-42> does anyone know a good wireless guide for ubuntu 8.10?  I can't find anything that is updated, and although my wireless card works fine I can't connect to any networks in ubuntu
[20:55] <unstable> I have an ubuntu machine, how can I tell what file system is being used? If it's ext3 or reiserfs or what?
[20:55] <unstable> This is modified install by someone I believe.
[20:56] <glick> hello, quick question, i downloaded and burned a copy of the lastest ubuntu version, but this laptop has an older version installed on a seperate partition (dual boot with XP) can i install over the old version without hurting my XP install and such?
[20:56] <Maizcul> anyone that can help a n00b with lappy keyboard and nix got some time spare? i feel this may take some ...
[20:56] <unstable> I do fdisk -l, and it just says "Linux", so I don't think I can get the filesystem from there.
[20:56] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: with the right medium, You can use any Dvd burning utility to copy your dvd correctly
[20:56] <cordor> kebomix: if you update mplayer recent, then that's the problem. try to install older version.
[20:56] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoney: I have just checked the DVD my friend did for me and it's -R???
[20:56] <Yuva> how to launch compiz
[20:56] <oly562> sorry i cant watch the screen , pm , otherwise, i have to do other things
[20:56] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: and that's why it don't work in other dvd players besides on the one on your computer
[20:56] <RivitingOne> I am having trouble with a drive not showing up on my system until I manually mount it. The device location is /dev/sda2 if that info is helpful. The mountpoint is /media/disk. It is a partition on my Hard Drive. Can someone help me set it so it will automount?
[20:57] <Maizcul> ubernoobQ - how do you do the compiz cube? xD
[20:57] <mgolisch> Yuva: system-preferences-apearance on the last tab select something other than none
[20:57] <Yuva> mgolisch: ya i have done that
[20:57] <kebomix> cordor : wut is useful of memtest86
[20:58] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: This is all strange. Could it be because I am in Europe and you are in the States, maybe??? Im assuming? The DVD sent me which is -R does read OK on my DVD player and computer.
[20:58] <glick> anyone?
[20:58] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: nope
[20:58] <Yuva> mgolisch: i have kept that at extra
[20:58] <lc0788956> So when i put in my live cd, I can pick the language and choose to just try ubuntu, and the kernal loads, and then thats as far as I get.  Anyone have any ideas????
[20:58] <Yuva> mgolisch: i need cube shape
[20:58] <mgolisch> DavidCanarias: it might just be that your player has problems with the dvd media you bought
[20:58] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: It's the same way everywhere. The only difference that there might be is the NTSC or the PAL options
[20:59] <TJ-42> a lot of guides online refer to "system->administration->networking" but this no longer exists and "network tools" doesnt seem to be the same thing.  what is the equivalent in ubuntu 8.10?
[20:59] <mgolisch> DavidCanarias: it can be that it ionly can read -r and its +r or its something else, like they are often collored different and stuff
[20:59] <Yuva> mgolisch: rotating the desktops
[20:59] <mgolisch> DavidCanarias: or you just didnt copy it properly
[20:59] <usser> RivitingOne, what filesystem is it?
[20:59] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: he's admitted already that it's a -r medium
[20:59] <usser> RivitingOne, ext3?
[20:59] <mgolisch> Yuva: thats not enabled by default install compizconfig-settings-manager and set it up there
[20:59] <cordor> kebomix: test computer memory. i guess it's less likely hardware problem if it start freeze for the last couple days, and you happened to update.
[20:59] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: copying it from there is not an issue
[20:59] <IsraelC> someone knows how to install a darwin stream server?
[20:59] <RivitingOne> ﻿usser: yes ext3
[20:59] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: mgolisch: Taken note of what you say..... but irrespectively I can't even copy to my computer and isn't that odd?
[21:00] <mgolisch> i thought the one his friend gave him was -r and that this one worked on the computer and the player
[21:00] <kebomix> cordor : yea i updated
[21:00] <mgolisch> but maybe i got it wrong
[21:00] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: and did you try sudo?
[21:00] <Yuva> mgolisch: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manage" is this right
[21:00] <ecle> kann mir jemand bei meiner soundkarte helfen?
[21:00] <mgolisch> DavidCanarias: if its a video dvd that might be normal
[21:00] <E-XtraCt> Is it possible to don't install grub while I install ubuntu ?
[21:01] <mgolisch> E-XtraCt: yeah use the alternate cd and skit the bootloader step
[21:01] <mgolisch> *skip*
[21:01] <Yuva> mgolisch: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manage" is this right
[21:01] <bluetouff> join #laquadrature
[21:01] <bluetouff> oops
[21:01] <eitreach> What is the command called that Alt+F1 uses in Gnome?
[21:01] <bluetouff> sorry
[21:01] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: mgolisch: Sorry if there is any confusion!!!! The DVD my friend did is -R and it is in 2 parts.... One part is mpg fotos and the other part is mpg Video. I can read it both on my computer and DVD player. What I cant seem to be is to copy it to my computer and then burn to disc. I am having a hell of a problem!!!! Hope you aren't both getting fed up with me already???
[21:01] <mgolisch> Yuva:  compizconfig-settings-manager thats the name
[21:02] <CaShMoNey> eitreach: usually people, From windows users, call it the "start" button
[21:02] <usser> RivitingOne, add the following to /etc/fstab: /dev/sda2 /media/disk ext3 relatime 0 2
[21:02] <mgolisch> eitreach: i think its called yelp
[21:02] <Yuva> mgolisch:  can i able to find it in package manager
[21:02] <glick> can i install ubutnu over an older version with no problem?
[21:02] <glick> on a dual boot?
[21:02] <mgolisch> Yuva: it should be in the repos
[21:02] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Sorry I didnt answer you so far. No I havent used sudo as I don't know how to yet?
[21:02] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: There's no need to copy it to your computer then to a dvd if you're only copying it
[21:02] <eitreach> mgolisch: no, help is F1. I want to use the menu that Alt+F1 produces.
[21:03] <mgolisch> glick: thats not recommended id format the / partition atleast
[21:03] <mphill> glick: are you going to format the target?
[21:03] <lc0788956> does anyone know why a live cd wont load?
[21:03] <glick> mphill, no
[21:03] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: I only have one DVD on my computer thats why I need to copy it first and then burn later to make 20 copies
[21:03] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: I think the reason why you cannot copy it is, because you are trying to put it in a folder that is either read-only, or one that you don't have permissions to
[21:03] <glick> actually yeah
[21:03] <glick> i was going to
[21:03] <glick> but what concersns me is grub
[21:03] <cordor> kebomix: i don't know how to install older version of the software. ask someone else. or just update to 8.10
[21:03] <mgolisch> eitreach: oh sorry its a panel-applet no idea how to use that without a gnome-panel
[21:03] <usser> RivitingOne, done?
[21:03] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: most burning software keeps the copy in a temp folder
[21:03] <glick> since it lists like 10 kernel versions
[21:03] <sidney> Yuva can I pm you?
[21:03] <usser> RivitingOne, now try to mount it with sudo mount /dev/sda2
[21:04] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: That could be possible. If I dont have permission cant I rectify this somehow?
[21:04] <CaShMoNey> so you can burn more than one session
[21:04] <Yuva> sidney: yes
[21:04] <mphill> glick: the installer will set everything up for you again
[21:04] <eitreach> mgolisch: well.. it is produced where the cursor is placed. so I was hoping to use it for a right-click menu.
[21:04] <kebomix> cordor : ok thx very much :D
[21:04] <CaShMoNey> yes, You can always go into the console and type "sudo brasero"
[21:04] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Can I not burn it to a permanent folder??
[21:04] <Yuva> sidney: sidney you are welcome
[21:04] <mgolisch> eitreach: oh you are not using ubuntu? probaly you mean something else
[21:04] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: I'd make an image, so it's the exact copy
[21:04] <glick> sweet
[21:04] <glick> cool
[21:04] <glick> thanks mphill
[21:04] <The> hi there
[21:04] <CaShMoNey> or just do it like I said
[21:04] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Can you help me do this then as I dont know how to?
[21:05] <mgolisch> eitreach: because alt+f1 just opens the mainmenu applet in gnome-panel
[21:05] <mgolisch> on ubuntu
[21:05] <eitreach> mgolisch: Hit Alt+F1. It produces a complete application menu in Gnome. I want to be able to trigger that with the mouse, instead of Alt+F1.
[21:05] <eitreach> mgolisch: well, I don't have one in my panel.. hm.
[21:05] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: well so you don't waste anymore money, I'd go out and buy the +R dvd's
[21:05] <The> i wanna install flash player on youtube but i can't ,,
[21:05] <eitreach> perhaps that's the reason.
[21:05] <CaShMoNey> and then I can help you from there
[21:05] <usser> The, why not?
[21:05] <harvey> Hi all. Does anyone know how I can fix my screen resolution on my PC. It messed up after I upgraded to 8.10 ?
[21:05] <usser> The, what version of ubuntu are u using? intrepid? is it 64 bit?
[21:06] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Ok I can buy some +R and give it a try, but need to make an identical image copy in my computer first no??
[21:06] <CaShMoNey> no
[21:06] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: The burning software will ask you if you want to burn more than one copy
[21:06] <adub> has anyone setup zoneminder before??
[21:07] <kansan> how do i enable the 'see every query log' on mysql server for ubuntu hardy?
[21:07] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Do I understand you then that I can make an identical copy and then directly burn to disc without filing it on the computer first?
[21:07] <mgolisch> kansan: i guess its done the same as everywhere else its mysql after all
[21:07] <CaShMoNey> kansan: I believe you have a mysql.conf file in your /etc folder
[21:08] <kansan> CaShMoNey, ok cool thats a starat;  do you know which setting it is?
[21:08] <CaShMoNey> kansan: not right offhand
[21:08] <mgolisch> CaShMoNey: if you have multiple drives then maybe yes
[21:08] <usser> DavidCanarias, burning software will make a copy automatically for you that will be deleted after you're done copying
[21:08] <gelmit> hi all,i av xps1530,cant get nvidia drivers working,when i enable restricted drivers and restart i get garbled screen, its 8.04,help appreciated
[21:08] <cordor> kebomix: np. hint. proper question "Computer freeze up while playing video using mplayer and totem since 2 days ago after update" something like that.
[21:08] <LittleKiller> Hi, I have a problem. I have 2 Hard Drives. I have a 500 gig and a 200 gig. I had  windows xp on the 200 gig. I installed ubuntu on the 500gig. I have now after a while formatted the 500gig hard drive to ntfs. Now i still have xp on the 200gig hard drive but when i boot it. It still loads the GRUB..and it fails...So XP will not boot. And Ideas?
[21:08] <DavidCanarias> usser: This is very interesting to find this out, many thanks. So which repo can I used to do this?
[21:09] <usser> DavidCanarias, to do what? burn dvds?
[21:09] <RivitingOne> usser: Ok I put in ﻿/dev/sda2 /media/disk ext3 relatime 0 2 That should set the system to automount that partition from now on?
[21:09] <usser> DavidCanarias, ubuntu comes with burning program called brasero
[21:09] <DavidCanarias> usser: Yes but I havent been able to get Brasero to work
[21:09] <Vitaliy_Semerenk> hey guys
[21:09] <usser> RivitingOne, yes, unless i messed up the syntax somehow. try sudo mount -a to check if it actually mounts
[21:09] <TJ-42> in ubuntu 8.10, how do you list available wireless networks -- i don't see that anywhere?
[21:09] <Vitaliy_Semerenk> can anyone please help me?
[21:09] <usser> DavidCanarias, what was the problem?
[21:10] <CaShMoNey> usser: he wants to burn a picture dvd
[21:10] <CaShMoNey> basically
[21:10] <usser> RivitingOne, also i'd suggest using uuid instead of /dev/sda2 cause device numeration may change when u add more disks
[21:10] <DavidCanarias> usser: I have copied my conversation I had earlier with two very helpful people: CaShMoNey: mgolisch: Sorry if there is any confusion!!!! The DVD my friend did is -R and it is in 2 parts.... One part is mpg fotos and the other part is mpg Video. I can read it both on my computer and DVD player. What I cant seem to be is to copy it to my computer and then burn to disc. I am having a hell of a problem!!!! Hope you aren't both getting
[21:11] <usser> RivitingOne, use blkid to find out uuid of your partition, then subsitute /dev/sda2 with uuid in /etc/fstab
[21:11] <platius> I set gdm to auto login in intrepid and now the screen goes black when I logout, but if I do my userid and password (different user) in the dark it logs me in but I am still in the dark. ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 and voila! I have my desktop. fun
[21:12] <usser> DavidCanarias, you can always make an exact copy with dd command if u want
[21:12] <usser> DavidCanarias, brasero should have no problem burning the resulting image
[21:12] <DavidCanarias> usser: Can you guide me please to do this I am willing to try anything
[21:12] <usser> DavidCanarias, ie pop in the dvd
[21:12] <CaShMoNey> usser: that's not needed if you just want to make copies of a dvd
[21:12] <CaShMoNey> onto other dvd's
[21:12] <DavidCanarias> usser: OK its inserted and ready
[21:13] <RivitingOne> usser: is the ﻿/...ext3 relatime 0 2 supposed to be realtime instead of relatime?
[21:13] <usser> CaShMoNey, i know but, he seems to have problems
[21:13] <leo__> hola
[21:13] <usser> RivitingOne, no, relatime
[21:13] <leo__> hola
[21:13] <usser> DavidCanarias, if its mounted automatically, unmount it
[21:13] <mgolisch> RivitingOne: and you need to add auto for it to get automaticaly mounted on boot
[21:14] <usser> DavidCanarias, on your desktop there should be an icon for that dvd
[21:14] <leo__> hay alguien que hable español
[21:14] <usser> DavidCanarias, right click on it -> unmount
[21:14] <CaShMoNey> usser if it's mounted anywho
[21:14] <RivitingOne> ﻿mgolisch: Add it where? ﻿/dev/sda2 /media/disk ext3 relatime 0 2
[21:14] <bimberi> !es | leo__
[21:14] <CaShMoNey> usser: if not, then it's in the "Place>Computer" tab
[21:14] <DavidCanarias> usser: OK I have unmounted it and its disappeared
[21:14] <ubuntoRoxx> how do i see what processID firefox has and then kill it?
[21:14] <mgolisch> RivitingOne: like so : relatime,auto
[21:14] <leo__> ok gracias
[21:14] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Thks for yr kind help I am not ignoring you by any means!!!!
[21:14] <bimberi> ubuntoRoxx: just use 'killall firefox'
[21:15] <simond> anyone know where I can find a feisty apt repository? It EOL'd before I had a chance to snapshot it.
[21:15] <CaShMoNey> ubuntoRoxx: Try "ps aux | grep firefox" in the console
[21:15] <mgolisch> ubuntoRoxx: pgrep firefox |xargs kill
[21:15] <driva2009> hi all. I wonder if anyone here has kde 4.1.3 at the moment? I have a user in #kde reporting that his power management is not working on the monitor
[21:15] <driva2009> anyone else experiencing this?
[21:15] <kebomix> how to make own server on ubuntu to make asp.net pages works on it like IIS in windows ?
[21:15] <mgolisch> ubuntoRoxx: or leave the xargs away for just seeing the pid/pids
[21:15] <DavidCanarias> usser: Its all ready to go I have unmounted.... waiting your instructions when you can OK?
[21:15] <mgolisch> kebomix: install mono,xsp,mod_mono and apache
[21:15] <oly562> Njoy, im out, l8
[21:15] <CaShMoNey> asp.net is strictly windows isn't it?
[21:15] <blobX> does anyone know if rt2870 wifi supports WPA2
[21:16] <usser> DavidCanarias, nice then open a terminal and do that: dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/Desktop/image.iso
[21:16] <kebomix> mgolisch: all of them ?
[21:16] <mgolisch> kebomix: id suggest using the svn head revision the stuff in ubuntus repo isnt realy new
[21:16] <RivitingOne> usser: If I unmount it and then do the ﻿sudo mount -a in terminal should it mount?
[21:16] <usser> DavidCanarias, that should start making an image
[21:16] <daxroc1> Evening
[21:16] <SomeGuy7337> hi
[21:16] <usser> RivitingOne, yes, mount -a, mounts all entries in fstab
[21:16] <mgolisch> kebomix: and dont expect it to just work, especialy if you are unfamilar with mono and or apache or linux in general it wont be realy easy to steup
[21:17] <DavidCanarias> usser: Done that but not much happening at the moment!!
[21:17] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: it depends on how big the dvd
[21:17] <kebomix> mgolisch: i will work on windows :D
[21:17] <kebomix> :S
[21:17] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: it can take up to an hour and a half to copy a 4.5gb dvd
[21:17] <usser> DavidCanarias, after u do dd. it should appear frozen
[21:17] <SomeGuy7337> wondering if anyone knows what the spacer tag got the gconf-editor in metacity
[21:17] <usser> DavidCanarias, nothing should happen on a terminal
[21:18] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: just wait it out until your # prompt comes back
[21:18] <dax_roc> How do you use xinput to set a propertys values ? xinput set-int-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint" "Synaptics Two-Finger Scrolling" 1,1 fails with invalid format
[21:18] <RivitingOne> usser: Is there a command that will show me which drives are mounted? I did the ﻿sudo mount -a
[21:19] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: I really appreciate both your help and patience with me. Yes it seems frozen as you say and I will wait for the prompt to come back as you say OK. I will advise when it back.....
[21:19] <CaShMoNey> RivitingOne: "mount"
[21:19] <dax_roc> RivitingOne: mount
[21:19] <usser> RivitingOne, mount, with no arguments
[21:19] <CaShMoNey> will tell you
[21:19] <gelmit> anyone help with the following please,
[21:19] <gelmit> anyone help with the following please,
[21:19] <gelmit> hi all,i av xps1530,cant get nvidia drivers working,when i enable restricted drivers and restart i get garbled screen, its 8.04,help appreciated
[21:19] <FloodBot2> gelmit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: What has happened is that an iso has appeared in the desktop
[21:19] <vitaliy_> hey guys
[21:19] <CaShMoNey> gelmit I can help
[21:19] <gelmit> double post was accident btw
[21:19] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: right, and it'll fill up slowly
[21:19] <keithclark> Does anyone have any experience getting a serial printer to work with a serial to usb cable?
[21:19] <usser> DavidCanarias, ^
[21:20] <vitaliy_> can anyone plesase help me?
[21:20] <usser> !ask
[21:20] <DavidCanarias> usser: Sorry what does this sign mean?? I am a newbie really!
[21:20] <vitaliy_> thnx
[21:20] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Then I will be very very patient. Thks
[21:20] <usser> DavidCanarias, ^=read above
[21:20] <dax_roc> keithclark: does the serial to usb work , do you see it in dmesg output and /dev/ttyUSBX ?
[21:21] <DavidCanarias> usser: Ok I will wait for the prompt!! Be back soon I hope!
[21:21] <keithclark> dax_roc, let me check.
[21:21] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: You are both right it says 3.6 gb copied
[21:21] <SomeGuy7337> .... so many talkings, just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[21:21] <vitaliy_> i am using google OS new to linujx also and i got a intel 855gm on my laptop i was just wondering where do i get the driver cuz it wasnot on the good os section which is supported by ubuntu and ubuntu doeasnt seem to support intel so how would i install the driver and where can i get it?
[21:22] <usser> DavidCanarias, is it done?
[21:22] <DavidCanarias> usser: Yes it says it has copied 3.6 gb
[21:22] <usser> vitaliy_, intel cards are supported out of the box
[21:22] <ubuntoRoxx> i opened the pidgeon messenger, but i cannot find the window anywhere. How do i find it?
[21:22] <usser> DavidCanarias, alright now pop in the blank dvd and open brasero
[21:22] <ubuntoRoxx> can i get a list of processIDs
[21:22] <keithclark> dax_roc, ttyUSB0 is there
[21:22] <CaShMoNey> ubuntoRoxx: try "ps aux"
[21:22] <RivitingOne> usser:  I don't see it on the list
[21:22] <vitaliy_> usser, where cqan i get it, i wqas lookingb and couldnt find do u have a website?
[21:23] <Illusion> Hello folks. I have a question about .htaccess. option Options -Indexes is set. How can i access a subpage/folder which overides the Options -Indexes?
[21:23] <l7> vitaliy_: maybe try out a full ubuntu livecd rather than using google os
[21:23] <DavidCanarias> usser: All done as you say
[21:23] <usser> RivitingOne, did mount -a give you any error messages. does your /media/disk have any content
[21:23] <mphill> there is no google os
[21:23] <l7> he's probably talking about geos
[21:23] <usser> DavidCanarias, now im not familiar with brasero but there has to be an option there to burn an dvd image
[21:23] <SomeGuy7337> kinda there is
[21:23] <SomeGuy7337> gOS
[21:24] <l7> yeah, that thing
[21:24] <vitaliy_> 17, i like google os and if i get the full ubuntu i will still need to find the driver because it is not on there weeb
[21:24] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: Can i filter that somehow to make it easier to find pidgin messenger
[21:24] <mphill> thats made by everex, not google
[21:24] <SomeGuy7337> gOS comes with Google Apps
[21:24] <CaShMoNey> yes
[21:24] <SomeGuy7337> .... so many talkings, just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[21:24] <vitaliy_> cashmonkeyh, yes
[21:24] <l7> vitaliy_: the full ubuntu version probably has better support
[21:24] <keithclark> dax_roc, with dmesg I get "too much work for irq17" a whole bunch of times.
[21:24] <fa2s> hi, anybody knows if openoffice 3.0 repository is offline?
[21:24] <CaShMoNey> ubuntoRoxx: type "ps aux | grep pidgin"
[21:24] <DavidCanarias> usser: There is an option for  a Video Project, create a video DVD or SVCD or another option Data Project?
[21:24] <RivitingOne> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81026/ is what I got
[21:24] <usser> DavidCanarias, do u have a fast internet connection?
[21:24] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: no, there's an option that says burn an image
[21:25] <vitaliy_> 17, im still going to stick with google os because it took me a while to configure everything and i am new so it is a good linux to start with
[21:25] <RivitingOne> usser: I get that unable to resolve thing a lot
[21:25] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: okay...its there...how do i then get the window?
[21:25] <CaShMoNey> vitaliy_: actually my first os that I learned on was Gentoo. Now that's a great way to start learning things from scratch
[21:25] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: Apologies burn an existing  CD/DVD image to disc too!!!! My internet connection is only 3MB
[21:25] <l7> i guess you can lead a horse to water...
[21:25] <CaShMoNey> click on it, and it'll ask you to find your image on your desktop
[21:25] <dblick> When I do: eject /media/ipod, I get: "eject: unable to open `/dev/sdb3'".  I don't get this when I so sudo eject /media/ipod.  How do I make eject runnable as a user?
[21:26] <SomeGuy7337> just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[21:26] <mphill> CaShMoNey: I don't think computer newbies should be using stage 1 Gentoo. they will probably go running back to Windows.
[21:26] <syslq> What is the best metod to encrypt home folder?
[21:26] <mphill> ;)
[21:26] <usser> RivitingOne, it looks like your sudo is messed up. add this line to /etc/hosts 127.0.1.1 xavier-desktop
[21:26] <usser> RivitingOne, and 127.0.0.1 xavier-desktop
[21:26] <CaShMoNey> mphill: LOL I dunno, it made me pay attention to detail
[21:26] <vitaliy_> 17, so do u have any clue of where i can get a driver for intel 855GM?
[21:27] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: Do I click on the  Burn image (Burn an existing DVD image to disc?
[21:27] <dax_roc> keithclark: not sure about that error , try "dmesg | grep ttyUSB"
[21:27] <l7> i don't know what kind of configuration you'd want to do with GoS though, everyone works on ubuntu out of the box
[21:27] <usser> DavidCanarias, yes so if u found then do burn, i was going to suggest you install another burning app
[21:27] <CaShMoNey> vitaliy_: Try i850 or something like that
[21:27] <mker> syslq, when you install with alternate installation disc you can choose to encrypt the harddrive. otherwise you can also choose to have a Private folder but then it's not your whole home folder that's encrypted.
[21:27] <mphill> CaShMoNey: boot straping a system is a unique experince to be sure
[21:27] <mgolisch> isnt that unsupported ? the gentoo handbook doesnt tell anything about stage1 or stage2 installs anymore
[21:27] <fa2s> hi, anybody knows if openoffice 3.0 repository is offline?
[21:27] <l7> vitaliy_: not really, i think your best bet is to install ubuntu then import the desktop things you like rather than the other way around
[21:27] <dent> hi
[21:27] <l7> it's up to you though
[21:27] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: How do i find the pidgin messenger?
[21:27] <RivitingOne> usser: Says I don't have permissions
[21:28] <dent> I ended up with broken sound after an 8.04->8.10 upgrade
[21:28] <RivitingOne> usser: to save
[21:28] <vitaliy_> 17, its the same comfig gos was made by ubuntu its debbain if io understand the quation
[21:28] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: so why not read the old documentation. It'll give you the experience and will give you a heads up on what you're looking for
[21:28] <mphill> mgolisch: last time i used it gentoo was like.  I'm a debian fanboy.
[21:28] <dent> Eventually I concluded the problem is no default sink in pulseaudio
[21:28] <usser> RivitingOne, ah yea right. cause sudo is messed up. you'll have to reboot into single user mode
[21:28] <SomeGuy7337> just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[21:28] <usser> RivitingOne, and do it from there
[21:28] <dent> anybody knows wat caused that/how to explicitly set one?
[21:28] <mphill> you could alway go linux from scratch these days
[21:28] <keithclark> dax_roc, [  771.407829] serial8250: too much work for irq17
[21:28] <CaShMoNey> ubuntoRoxx: "ps aux | grep pidgin"   whatever it says, type in "killall pidgin"
[21:28] <RivitingOne> usser: how do I do that?
[21:29] <RivitingOne> usser: sorry I'm kinda new at this
[21:29] <mgolisch> mphill: CaShMoNey : i have done multiple stage1 and 2 install but i dont realy use gentoo often anymore, you can just install something when you need it, it will allways take forever or even brak on ~arch
[21:29] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey:  Up came Image burning set up: Select a disc to write to and appears my DVD inserted, but i says Path None? Image type Let Brasero choose (safest), but the burn is in grey so I cant select it??? Any ideas whats happening not allowing me to burn
[21:29] <usser> RivitingOne, restart your machine and when you grub and countdown something like boot in 3...2...1 press ESC
[21:29] <LittleKiller> Hi, I have a problem. I have 2 Hard Drives. I have a 500 gig and a 200 gig. I had  windows xp on the 200 gig. I installed ubuntu on the 500gig. I have now after a while formatted the 500gig hard drive to ntfs. Now i still have xp on the 200gig hard drive but when i boot it. It still loads the GRUB..and it fails...So XP will not boot. And Ideas?
[21:29] <SomeGuy7337> just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[21:29] <keithclark> dax_roc, sorry, not correct.
[21:29] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: hit the browse button that looks like a little folder, and then navigate to your desktop
[21:29] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: Or do i need to choose the path to the ISO on my desktop?
[21:30] <Nikty> hi Largest Linux Ever! =)
[21:30] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: i dont get it...even though i have killed pidgin, and i start it up again. It just first prompts me for a password and then it just disappears
[21:30] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: the path to the iso
[21:30] <usser> DavidCanarias, either blank dvd is not really blank. or its not supported or your dvd burner is not really a dvd burner
[21:30] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: But it is there, because i can find it using ps aux
[21:30] <guntbert> !repeat | SomeGuy7337
[21:30] <dimedo> i still have the following problem since installing a new nvidia gf8800 card: when i startup compiz gets not loaded, but if i reastart x by ctrl+shift+backspace, it gets loaded. so it seems to be configured by doesn't get loaded on first x startup. please help!
[21:30] <dent> RivitingOne: what is the problem? / recently joined, but curious
[21:30] <usser> DavidCanarias, well yea u select the image to burn
[21:30] <CaShMoNey> ubuntoRoxx: what os version do you have?
[21:30] <Nikty> hmmmm!
[21:30] <keithclark> dax_roc, http://www.pastebin.ca/1277232
[21:30] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: 8.10
[21:30] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: usser: You are right, I found it and clicked on it and it allows me to burn now. Shall I go ahead and burn then?
[21:31] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: just upgraded
[21:31] <usser> DavidCanarias, yea go ahead
[21:31] <CaShMoNey> yup
[21:31] <mgolisch> ubuntoRoxx: it has a litle tray icon klick on that it should open pidgin again
[21:31] <CaShMoNey> ubuntoRoxx: Hmm that's odd because mine works just fine, and I installed this sytem 3 days ago and did the upgrade
[21:31] <ubuntoil_> je suis detour avec mes problemes de reseaux ;)
[21:31] <mgolisch> ubuntoRoxx: if thats not it start pidgin from a terminal and look for error messages
[21:31] <ubuntoRoxx> CaShMoNey: AHHH yes there it is
[21:31] <Nikty> how to DUMP acpi?
[21:31] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoney: Did that and its on its way. Fingers crossed it will work. Although I am thinking what CaShMoney: said earlier that I need a +R DVD and I am using -R!!!! :-(
[21:32] <SomeGuy7337> thanks ubottu
[21:32] <SomeGuy7337> i will try
[21:32] <CaShMoNey> indeed you do need the +r
[21:32] <guntbert> !fr | ubuntoil_
[21:32] <mgolisch> Nikty: dump what? the dsdt?
[21:32] <`harley`> ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.->¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸  Un FuOcOsO SaLuTo A TuTtI GlI AmIcI Di  #ubuntu  ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.->
[21:32] <Nikty> mgolisch: yes
[21:32] <dent> oh no!
[21:32] <konam> hi
[21:32] <Nikty> dent: OH YEAH!
[21:32] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: its doing the checksum at the moment
[21:32] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: all dvd players read the +r, but some will read the -r
[21:32] <TJ-42> my synaptics touch pad moves very very slowly, while the "eraser" mouse moves very quickly, but both are controlled by the same mouse settings it seems like.  how can I separate them?
[21:33] <LjL> TJ-42: "man synaptics" and "man synclient"
[21:33] <mgolisch> Nikty: cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > /somewhere/dsdt.dump
[21:33] <konam> can someone tell me how can i make my right ctrl key to behave like the right shift key? is there a file that i could edit in order to make that happen? i know there doesn't seem to be a gui for it....
[21:33] <dax_roc> keithclark: ah sounds like a dodgy usb->serial adapter at first glance , How old is it , and your printer or plotter ?
[21:33] <dent> Anybody bumped into broken pulse audio on 8.10? (missing default sink -> all audio-using apps are broken in nasty ways, all kinds of fun :-/ )
[21:33] <TJ-42> thanks LjL!
[21:33] <AndyB> mgolisch, Hi i was wondering if you could offer some advice, ive been trying to use the Grub4DOS you recommended, But im not sure which of the methods to use to install. I dont want to partition my drive, just add to the mbr
[21:33] <grndslm> i've got a video i DLed from youtube... i just want to rip the audio to mp3.  how do i do that?
[21:33] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: usser: Next time I will buy +R wish somebody has advised me earlier!!! Well its now writing the disc and will take forever I suppose! jejeje
[21:33] <Nikty> mgolisch: tnx
[21:33] <keithclark> dax_roc, usb->serial is less than one year old.  Printer is a TSP600
[21:33] <CaShMoNey> konam: I think that was mentioned earlier, Google search "keytouch"
[21:34] <mphill> konam: I think the new version of GNOME will have the function, but I have no clue how to help you today.
[21:34] <Nikty> mgolisch: if i have acer_wmi loaded, fixed dsdt or original will be dumped?
[21:34] <mgolisch> AndyB: no dont add anything to the mbr, just add the bootloader to your boot.ini so it can be booted via the windows bootloader just like that howto tells you
[21:34] <keithclark> dax_roc, I remember working on this problem before.  Ubuntu seems to "see" the printer
[21:34] <Zopiac> anyone know how to work orage clock?
[21:34] <keithclark> dax_roc, knows it by name and that it is a tear bar and not a cutter model
[21:35] <dax_roc> keithclark: have you tried pluging with out the printer attached to the converter , It's probalby the printer misbehaving ( 8250 UART ? )
[21:35] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: I am in Europe so will go to dinner while the disc is writing. I will be 15 minutes or so. Will you both be around to give you some more news?  Really appreciate both your help tonight!!!
[21:35] <CaShMoNey> I will
[21:35] <konam> CaShMoNey is my laptop keyboard... will it work with it?
[21:35] <CaShMoNey> I've been here all afternoon
[21:35] <CaShMoNey> konam: yup
[21:35] <keithclark> dax_roc, Ok, but how to test?  dmesg without the printer attached?
[21:35] <AndyB> C:\grldr="Start GRUB4DOS"
[21:36] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: for vista?
[21:36] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Thanks then. All afternoon helping people!! Very generous of you and I am sure very much appreciated by all the community. I only hope I will be able to reciprocate one day. See you later then. Thks
[21:36] <mgolisch> AndyB: yeah add to a new line at the end of your boot.ini, if you have xp or 2k
[21:36] <dax_roc> keithclark: unplug the usb , and printer from it and re-plug. see if you get the same error
[21:36] <AndyB> CashMoney, No xp
[21:36] <adub> has anyone setup zoneminder before??
[21:36] <DavidCanarias> usser: Thks to you too. Hope to speak later then. Bye for now.
[21:36] <usser> DavidCanarias, good luck then
[21:36] <ubuntoRoxx> I need to install eclipse java environment. How do i do that using the packet manager?
[21:36] <Illusion> i have a question about .htaccess. option Options -Indexes is set. How can i access a subpage/folder which overides the Options -Indexes?
[21:36] <AndyB> Mgolisch, Sorry ment to add your name but it sent when i pasted, so just add that to boot.ini and copy the gldr and menu.lst files over to C
[21:37] <mgolisch> AndyB: then download grub4dos unpack the grldr file to c:\ and create a c:\menu.lst and setup your entries there
[21:37] <keithclark> dax_roc, I get the same error with everything disconnected
[21:38] <Maizcul> anyone got some spare time to help a n00b through some stuff? xD
[21:38] <dent> konam: as for the keys: I guess xkb* is the way... maybe xkbcomp?
[21:38] <peterloorke> hi! is it possible to edit some .so file? i'll try to translate some pidgin plugins (i'm tottally a newbie so if it's a silly question please don't shoot me)
[21:38] <dent> peterloorke: let me aim at you! :)
[21:38] <dent> peterloorke: you want to do that with sources
[21:38] <mgolisch> peterloorke: no translations arent saved in those usualy, there are translation files loaded at runtime using gettext
[21:38] <konam> dent what?
[21:39] <TJ-42> hmm ok I have a weird problem in ubuntu 8.10.  I am connecting to a hidden (non-broadcasting) network that I have saved the settings for.  When I reconnect after a reboot, it says "authentication required" and the stored wpa key is different (!) from what I entered before and connected with.  I can put in the correct key and things work again, but next time it is back to the old password.
[21:39] <ubuntoRoxx> anyone?
[21:39] <dent> peterloorke: no need to do that with binaries (.so) for FOSS, + it's almost impossible anyway
[21:39] <dent> konam:
[21:39] <mker> Maizcul, just ask what you want to know, don't ask if anyone can help you without telling us what the problem is
[21:39] <Maizcul> nothing is impossible
[21:39] <dent> konam: ehm, sorry for blank line, anyway: you asked about making right shift behave as right alt or... something?
[21:39] <Maizcul> trying to get laptops "fn" key to work, i've asked a couple times
[21:40] <Maizcul> i get pointed to forums which whilst in essence is good, i'm quite severely n00b
[21:40] <peterloorke> @dent: lol
[21:40] <peterloorke> @mgolisch: i just want to translate the flip plugin into my language so it's not possible right?
[21:40] <AndyB> mgolisch, all done just rebooting to see
[21:40] <konam> dent yes, but i didn't quite get what you told me
[21:40] <Yuva> guys how to work with irssi
[21:40] <Yuva> ??
[21:40] <Gnea> Maizcul: sometimes you need to get more specific, the channel moves pretty fast and no one really has the time to read scrollback.
[21:40] <Maizcul> i can try and follow the steps but i fail at it >.>
[21:40] <dax_roc> keithclark: it sounds like the adapter is the problem to me, its using a very high irq , I dont have much experience with serial coms tho , but if you google might find more help
[21:40] <mgolisch> AndyB: yeah it should start grub atleast, but without entryies in the menu.lst it wont do much yet
[21:40] <mgolisch> :)
[21:41] <keithclark> dax_roc, thanks!  I appreciate the help
[21:41] <Yuva> guys how to use irssi
[21:41] <Yuva> ??
[21:41] <CaShMoNey> Yuva: What do you want to do with it?
[21:41] <CaShMoNey> lol
[21:41] <mgolisch> Yuva: terminal -> type irssi [enter]
[21:41] <Gnea> !irssi | Yuva
[21:41] <dent> peterloorke: yeah, look for the plugin source, it probably uses gettext... you could then contribute back
[21:41] <keithclark> dax_roc, is there a way to uninstall it and reinstall it?
[21:41] <dimedo> is there some tool for switching pulseaudio output device per window? some context menu addition or similar.
[21:41] <Maizcul> Gnea: laptop "Fn" key doesn't work, e.g. volume+. Asked already, get given forums link. I fail at following the forum links instructions.
[21:41] <dent> peterloorke: just find the web of the author/wharever you can download the source
[21:42] <Yuva> mgolisch: then how can i connect to ubuntu channel
[21:42] <mgolisch> dimedo: no but you can use pavucontrol to switch it per appliction
[21:42] <badawi> how do i see the file list of an installed package?
[21:42] <peterloorke> ok, thanks for advice
[21:42] <Darknezz> i have a problem: i was trying to install GDM themes after installing i logged out and back in. now it will not load the login screen. is there a way to get on and change the setting back???
[21:42] <SomeGuy7337> no luck just information i already saying that you can insert a spacer tag between the buttons but not what that spacer tag is
[21:42] <AndyB> mgolisch, Well i got an option for grub, and when i go into it, it displays my menu.lst (copied as example from the download) Now i just need to find out what to enter to get it to boot ubuntu from hd(0,1)
[21:42] <CaShMoNey> Yuva: type "/server irc.freenode.org"
[21:42] <CaShMoNey> Yuva: and then type "/join #ubuntu"
[21:42] <mgolisch> Yuva: /connect irc.freenode.net, wait /join #ubuntu ?
[21:42] <hummesse> hi guys. Im trying to locate a word in a bunch of files in a file tree. Right now i find the word but i can't figure out how to make it show which file it is in. The command i use is "$cat `find -name "*" -print` | grep kepler" can anybody modify this to make it do what i want?
[21:43] <sirjoebob> how can i move a directory from cli?
[21:43] <lordrayden_> hi, is it better to install NV drivers with envyng ?
[21:43] <CaShMoNey> sirjoebob: "cd"
[21:43] <CaShMoNey> sirjoebob: my bad
[21:43] <lordrayden_> or mv
[21:43] <hummesse> btw kepler is the word i want to find
[21:43] <CaShMoNey> sirjoebob: "mv -drf pathtodirectory"
[21:43] <badawi> hummesse: grep -h or grep -H i'm not sure which one, check the man page
[21:43] <rocknroll> hello
[21:43] <sirjoebob> CaShMoNey: thanks
[21:43] <CaShMoNey> sirjoebob: "mv -drf pathtodirectory /pathwhereyouwantit"
[21:44] <sirjoebob> CaShMoNey: got it
[21:44] <dent> hummesse: also look at grep -r or possibly (if you wanted to filter the files to grep, e.g. with -name
[21:44] <Yuva> CaShMoNey: which client you are using
[21:44] <hummesse> ok thanks
[21:44] <konam> dent can you explain me about the xkb package?
[21:44] <CaShMoNey> Yuva: right now I'm using xchat2
[21:44] <CaShMoNey> Yuva: but I've used irssi in the past and learned it by feel
[21:44] <dimedo> mgolisch, yes i already know that, i thought of a simpler approach to that
[21:44] <mgolisch> i allways use irssi
[21:45] <badawi> hummesse: try this instead->  find / -type f -iname '*.txt' -exec grep -H -i kepler '{}' \;
[21:45] <rocknroll> help
[21:45] <Darknezz> i have a problem: i was trying to install GDM themes after installing i logged out and back in. now it will not load the login screen. is there a way to get on and change the setting back???
[21:45] <rocknroll> Yuva
[21:45] <rocknroll> I am yuva
[21:45] <rocknroll> connected through irssi
[21:45] <hummesse> ill try that badawi, thanks
[21:46] <badawi> how can i see the file list of an installed package? what's the command to use?
[21:46] <CaShMoNey> I like helping people out in irc channels because it's like doing mathmatical flashcards
[21:46] <dent> konam: if only, it's been ages... but look into /usr/share/X11/xkb/* and try http://www.google.com/search?q=xkb - I believe you can map anything to anything with that, but it's bean years, so I don't really know :-(
[21:46] <mgolisch> badawi: dpkg -L packagename
[21:47] <AndyB> mgolisch, when adding the menu.lst entry for ubuntu on hd(0,1), do i need to add a "Kernal" or "initrd" line of commands?
[21:47] <konam> dent thanks
[21:47] <gnutron> badawi: dpkg -l  will list all installed packages.
[21:47] <hummesse> wohoo! worked thanks badawi
[21:47] <badawi> mgolisch, gnutron: thanks
[21:47] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: No, just uuid
[21:47] <CaShMoNey> and title
[21:47] <CaShMoNey> of OS
[21:47] <badawi> hummesse: no prob
[21:47] <gundam_rx78nt1> is there a problem with wireless cards when upgrading to Hardy from gutsy?
[21:47] <mgolisch> AndyB: i think it has to be hd(1,something) as the internals should allways have precendence unless your bios is insane
[21:48] <TJ-42> I have this problem on ubuntu 8.10 that I can't solve.  I am able to successfully connect to a WPA2 network the first time.  All subsequent times, Ubuntu fails to keep my wpa2 password and substitutes a different wpa2 key.  Even if I try to type in my own keep it fails and again shows the old key.  I can only connect if I delete the network and retry.  I find several bug reports and messages about this, but no solution.  Any idea?
[21:48] <keithclark> How can I uninstall a usb device?
[21:48] <SomeGuy7337> just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[21:48] <mgolisch> that wont work, grub4dos cant read ext3 , either try chainloading the grub from the usbhdd or put the kernals on the windows disk
[21:48] <mgolisch> atleast i think it cant
[21:49] <CaShMoNey> keithclark, Unplug it
[21:49] <CaShMoNey> LOL
[21:49] <keithclark> It stays there
[21:49] <sumo_su> Video Playback is flickering when compiz is turned on... is there a fix for this problem? (ATI card)
[21:49] <moonlite> I need to backup 50GB of data to a USB-disk which is FAT32 formatted (which means filesize of max 4GB). I can't just copy over the files since some filenames isn't valid on FAT32 and i also want to keep permissions etc. Any ideas?
[21:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> TJ-42, I can't even get my card to connect to my WPA network.
[21:49] <gundam_rx78nt1> After upgrading
[21:49] <CaShMoNey> keithclark: try "umount" with it plugged in
[21:49] <AndyB> mgolisch, ah so this wont work?
[21:49] <Maizcul> turn compiz off xD
[21:49] <mgolisch> AndyB: but maybe iam wrong, just try to use a entry simmilar to the one on your linux disk
[21:50] <sumo_su> Maizcul: you are smart :o)
[21:50] <rocknrol1> hello
[21:50] <morth_> Could anyone help me please? im dualboot with Linux / WinXP and lastnight on my XP i think i got a virus command prompt came up and my computer made a loud noise so i got scared and rebooted now when i try to access my XP files from Linux it says its not mounted.. is there a way to fix this?
[21:50] <Maizcul> :P
[21:50] <SomeGuy7337> sumo_vu: make the video rendering to X11
[21:50] <mgolisch> AndyB: i didnt use grub4dos that often, if it doenst work you still have the chainloader aproach or copy the kernel and initrd to the windows disk
[21:50] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: well with ubuntu, he'd have to use the UUID just like in the menu.lst on the ubuntu installation
[21:50] <keithclark> I have a device ttyUSB0 that I want to delete the driver for.....I think I have a bad driver and I want to uninstall it.
[21:50] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: cause well, grub is the one to interpret where the UUID is
[21:50] <ZeZu> morth_, try sudo mount -a
[21:50] <AndyB> mgolisch, ah yes i can boot into live cd open the usb drive and take the entry from the working menu.lst
[21:51] <mgolisch> i dont think grub4dos is that new id go with root (hdx,x), kernel /foo initrd /bar for starters
[21:51] <mgolisch> AndyB: yeah try that
[21:51] <TJ-42> gundam_rx78nt1: my sympathies :-/  Does it work if you disable WPA?
[21:51] <Maizcul> i wish i wasn't so noob :(
[21:51] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: do some reading
[21:51] <adub> has anyone in here install zoneminder before?
[21:51] <Maizcul> it just goes over my head -.-
[21:52] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: also, Get a stable os installed, and use a virtual machine to learn about other operating systems
[21:52] <Maizcul> vb6 is hard enough >.<
[21:52] <AndyB> mgolisch, back in a min, changing accounts
[21:52] <Maizcul> Cashmoney: im fairly good with windows 3.1, 95, 98, xp and vista, that count? xD
[21:52] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: nope
[21:52] <Maizcul> Cashmoney: Drat.
[21:53] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: But, There are books for linux nubs
[21:53] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: it'll give you the basics of any *nix operating system
[21:53] <Maizcul> Cashmoney: People complain about how hard *nix is, but windows 3.1 was worse. I remember spending 12 hours with my uncle trying to get a USB mouse working haha
[21:54] <diffred> Hi! How can I get rid of this kinda warnings:  Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory scalable/animations/small/16x16 of theme oxygen has no size field
[21:54] <Maizcul> Give them a size field.
[21:54] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: well *nix is updated every day. 3.1 has been outdated for years now
[21:54] <diffred> Maizcul: How?
[21:54] <Maizcul> Cashmoney: I know, I was talking of the time when it was new technology.
[21:54] <rww> Maizcul: USB mouse in Win3.1? That was probably difficult, given that USB was first supported in either Win95 or Win98, I forget which. Did they have custom drivers or something?
[21:55] <etale> hi all, trying to do a fresh install on a messed up computer; how can i use the livecd to mount the old windows filesystem to harvest my old data?
[21:55] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: when I started with linux, I had started with the gentoo distro, and used the howto's to install. It gave me experience to find what I'm looking for
[21:55] <guntbert> !ot
[21:55] <pantsman> when I got my first PC with USB, I waited and waited, but a little bus full of cereal never came out :(
[21:55] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: *nix is getting more user friendly every day
[21:55] <diffred> How to get rid of  Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory scalable/animations/small/16x16 of theme oxygen has no size field
[21:55] <E4emacs4> Linux is becoming easier to use than windows lol
[21:55] <mgolisch> CaShMoNey: yeah gentoo was quite good to learn how stuff works
[21:55] <mgolisch> :)
[21:56] <Maizcul> Cashmoney: I tried fedora 6 before, the CD just refused to work XD I installed debian before, that was good, never could get my wireless driver to makefile though, although my USB drive worked with it but not with ubuntu, though that may have sometime to do with the rust on it. Windows is stupidly easy to use
[21:56] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: which is why I suggest it in a virtual machine and documentation :) it'll give anybody the basics of how everything works, and how to troubleshoot common problems
[21:56] <keithclark> How to remove a device driver so that I can reinstall it?
[21:56] <Maizcul> Wall of text crits you for 99999
[21:57] <dax_roc> keithclark: you would use rmmod to remove the driver and modprobe to re-insert it
[21:57] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: well maybe your drive just needs the filesystem arguement during mount
[21:57] <ompaul> rww, it was 98 iirc
[21:57] <Darknezz> i have a problem: i was trying to install GDM themes after installing i logged out and back in. now it will not load the login screen. is there a way to get on and change the setting back???
[21:57] <keithclark> dax_roc, thanks
[21:57] <Maizcul> Cashmoney: Clear as mud.
[21:58] <mgolisch> Darknezz: what did you do to install it?
[21:58] <Maizcul> It was the rust.
[21:58] <dax_roc> keithclark: but It will normally (re)load the driver when you insert the usb device
[21:58] <Maizcul> I scraped a little off and it worked.
[21:58] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: like one of my dvd's wouldn't mount cause it didn't know what filesystem to use in ubuntu, but then I manually mounted it with the filesystem argument and it mounted just fine
[21:58] <keithclark> dax_roc, well, I tried it on another machine and the device is fine.
[21:59] <keithclark> dax_roc, that is why I was thinking a driver was the cause of the errors
[21:59] <linkslice> is there an app i can use to open visio docs?
[21:59] <Darknezz> mgolisch: i went into sys/admin/login window and installed the theme that i downloaded
[21:59] <mgolisch> linkslice: visio?
[21:59] <mgolisch> :)
[21:59] <E4emacs4> visio might work in WINE linkslice
[21:59] <CaShMoNey> it will work in wine
[21:59] <linkslice> E4emacs4, I don't have visio just visio documents...
[21:59] <rww> linkslice: dia or kivio
[21:59] <CaShMoNey> office 2007 is fully supported with wine
[22:00] <rww> linkslice: not sure if they can read visio documents, but i know they do very similar things, so it might be worth a try.
[22:00] <tux7897-afk> cashmoney do you know about office2003 is supported with wine?
[22:00] <Zoffix_> Hello, I'm trying to get Evolution to work with MS Exchange server. It doesn't connect, despite the fact that I googled and other people can connect. I tried running it in the shell and I get "(evolution:13933): e-data-server-ui-WARNING **: Unable to find password(s) in keyring (Keyring reports: No matching results)"
[22:00] <rww> !appdb | tux7897-afk: look in the wine app-db
[22:00] <SomeGuy7337> just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer
[22:01] <Darknezz> mgolisch: i can get into terminal using ctrl+alt-f1 but i dont know many commands to get back into the GUI
[22:01] <upd> hi, can i ask, why ubuntu and i think also other linux, reset the number of incomming packet, usualy when it come to 3GB ?
[22:01] <mgolisch> Zoffix_: but you setup the stuff correctly?
[22:01] <Zoffix_> tux7897-afk, Publisher can't save and I can't start Outlook, haven't tried the rest.
[22:01] <CaShMoNey> tux7897-afk: I'm not sure. I was just at the wine site 2 days ago doing some research
[22:02] <tux7897-afk> oh ok thanks cashmoney
[22:02] <keithclark> dax_roc, I think I will try this in XP to see if the rest of my hardware works.
[22:02] <Zoffix_> mgolisch, I followed several forum posts to the dot. I can login on the Exchange server with the credentials I am using from the browser.. but Evolution refuses. Tells me "Could not locate server ."
[22:02] <CaShMoNey> <-- plays Counterstrike in Ubuntu with wine
[22:02] <CaShMoNey> works better than in windows
[22:02] <mgolisch> Zoffix_: but you used the same url in evolution?
[22:03] <Zoffix_> mgolisch, yeah.
[22:03] <mgolisch> strange
[22:03] <Zoffix_> Yeah
[22:03]  * Zoffix_ googles some more.
[22:03] <badawi> CaShMoNey: the old one or the new one?
[22:03] <mgolisch> lets see if it works for me
[22:03] <dax_roc> keithclark: Might be helpfull , I think its that its using a high irq seems to be a problem with some serial modems
[22:03] <CaShMoNey> badawi: the old one. I gotta try out the new one. Thanks for reminding me
[22:03] <CaShMoNey> lol
[22:04] <keithclark> dax_roc, Lets see.  I thought I had this working in Ubuntu, but that was before the 8.10 upgrade
[22:04] <Maizcul> My wireless decided to DC :/
[22:04] <rampageoberon> hi, i get a gnome-settings-daemon failed to start error every time I login and it takes nearly 10 minutes to load the desktop. what could the problem be?
[22:05] <Maizcul> Hmm ... I r need pills.
[22:05] <Maizcul> brb
[22:06] <adub> has anyone in here install zoneminder before?
[22:06] <olskolirc> this is freenode server right?
[22:06] <k-f>  
[22:06] <keithclark> dax_roc, hold on, why can I not just reassign the irq?
[22:07] <sabayonweb_98445> anyone have success installing ubuntu on a dell xps one
[22:07] <gnuskool> CaShMoNey: no crashes 1.6?
[22:08] <AndyB> mgolisch, sorry that took much longer then expected, i copied the entries from the menu.lst to my new on in C, but when i select them from boot menu it says error 17 cannot find drive, it is plugged in
[22:08] <Maizcul> mmk back
[22:08] <Darknezz> i have a problem: i was trying to install GDM themes after installing i logged out and back in. now it will not load the login screen. is there a way to get on and change the setting back???
[22:08] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool: nope. and a constant frame rate/ping too
[22:08] <Zoffix_> sabayonweb_98445, I have it at home on Dell XPS M1335
[22:08] <Maizcul> My laptop battery is shot :/
[22:08] <gnuskool> 100fps?
[22:08] <mgolisch> AndyB: what does it have for root ?
[22:08] <Maizcul> been unplugged for about 5 mins tops and down to 84%
[22:08] <sabayonweb_98445> well the xps one is that all in one desktop
[22:08] <gnuskool> CaShMoNey: 100fps?, what card u got?
[22:08] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool even more bro
[22:08] <AndyB> mgolisch, nothing it doesnt have a root, it has a uuid which i think is the problem, i believe its the uuid for my internal drive
[22:09] <niklaus> hi, when i upgraded i get a message saying /sbin/lrm-video not found. Is it something of concern ?
[22:09] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool: I have a Geforce 8600GT
[22:09] <rww> AndyB: yeah, that might be a problem. Sending the UUID factoid your way now...
[22:09] <gnuskool> CaShMoNey: i got 60fps lol
[22:09] <Maizcul> I only got the 8400GS on my pc =[
[22:09] <rww> !uuid | AndyB
[22:09] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool: and it gets 99-250fps
[22:09] <sabayonweb_98445> zoffix i generally use sabayon linux and ubuntu here and there but cant get live cd fro sabayon to boot on desktop might try ubuntu on desktop and keep sabayon on my xps m1530
[22:09] <calwig> hi, how can i only chmod on JPG photos?
[22:09] <calwig> to have 777 on all of them
[22:09] <AndyB> rww. thanks
[22:09] <niklaus> Is interpid ok to be upgraded to ? Does it have stability problems ?
[22:09] <gnuskool> CaShMoNey: 60fps on xp, havent tried wine yet
[22:10] <jeaton> what is a good program that converts video from avi to dvd, and will allow me burn it as well?
[22:10] <mker> niklaus, guess it depends on your hardware. some have problems, some, like me, don't.
[22:10] <mgolisch> AndyB: No. grub4dos didn't support uuid command. it's patch for grub legacy from Ubuntu
[22:10] <Maizcul> Nero Vision Express
[22:10] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool, it's because you have vsync option on for your video card. Take that off, and then try it
[22:10] <mortuis99> i am running ubuntu and want to install TRUECRYPT.  where can i get it and is there a GUI available for it?
[22:10] <RyanPrior> How do I start a second X server for my video game to run in?
[22:10] <mgolisch> AndyB: thats what google grub4dos uuid reveals
[22:10] <sabayonweb_98445> gnuskool: devede
[22:10] <niklaus> mker: hardware ,what kind of problems ?
[22:10] <sabayonweb_98445> Maizcul: i never tried that one
[22:10] <RyanPrior> !truecrypt | mortuis99
[22:10] <mker> niklaus, don't know, I haven't had any
[22:11] <rww> mortuis99: Truecrypt's website. It's not in any Ubuntu repositories because of complicated licensing reasons.
[22:11] <gnuskool> CaShMoNey: yeah tried the vsync off thing, i dont know what's causing it, used to work mint on my other rig
[22:11] <CaShMoNey> RyanPrior: why would you need a second xserver?
[22:11] <dent> RyanPrior: if you want just an X server: X :1
[22:11] <keithclark> niklaus, I had issues with my graphics card and sound card.
[22:11] <Maizcul> i used to use it to turn avis to dvd to watch, but my new tv is HD and my new gcx card has a hd connection so i just watch them direct now
[22:11] <AndyB> mgolisch, well i just tried replacing the uuid line with "root hd(1,0) but i got error 12, unrecognised device string
[22:11] <dent> RyanPrior: but making use of that is a bit more complicated
[22:11] <niklaus> keithclark: which graphics card do you use ?
[22:11] <keithclark> ATI X200
[22:11] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool it's the driver itself that locks it at 60fps, but there is an option to unlock it. It's cause the drivers are new for winblows
[22:11] <niklaus> keithclark: i use nvidia geforce FX 5500, i use a nvidia driver
[22:12] <rampageoberon> hi, i get a gnome-settings-daemon failed to start error every time I login and it takes nearly 10 minutes to load the desktop. what could the problem be?
[22:12] <DavidCanarias> usser: CaShMoNey: Here I am again having eaten!!!  Glad to say with your help and pacience I have managed to make an exact copy of the DVD which actually works.  Well done to both of you! I am very grateful. Can I ask you about the iso image ? Can I now rename the file and keep it in my Video file for example and then from their make as many copies as I want??
[22:12] <mgolisch> AndyB: its (hd1,0)
[22:12] <keithclark> nilaus, As I don't use Nvidia, can't comment on that one
[22:12] <SomeGuy7337> just a quick question- in gconf-editor, at the metacity for the buttons positions does anyone know the spacer tag. Say my name if you have an answer. Do you think that it would be okay to post this on the forum i didn't want because it was so small but no one seems to know the answer so i have little choice
[22:12] <RyanPrior> CaShMoNey, dent: I want to have on instance running for my desktop software, another for a fullscreen game. That way, when an instant message or something pops up, it doesn't pop me out of full screen mode.
[22:12] <AndyB> mgolisch, would explain it, thanks
[22:12] <niklaus> keithclark: i use a onboard sound card. btw did it work on hardy ?
[22:12] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: Indeed you can
[22:12] <gnuskool> CaShMoNey: nvidia, where is this option, is it a checkbox ...or a hack?
[22:12] <keithclark> niklaus, all hardware worked under hardy
[22:12] <rww> SomeGuy7337: I'm not sure what you're asking; please rephrase your question. Also, yes, posting on the forums would be fine.
[22:13] <RyanPrior> CaShMoNey, dent: What is the best way to accomplish my goal? I've been lead to believe that having a second X server running is something that has worked for other people.
[22:13] <CaShMoNey> gnuskool: it's a check box in the nvidia control panel
[22:13] <gnuskool> hmmm, ok bye
[22:13] <brianski> am i the only one having problems with menu fonts in opera nxclient, and other closed source programs in intrepid?
[22:13] <gnuskool> :D
[22:13] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Thks a lot. So the only problem I could find now is that when I send copies to my friends some of them may not be able to open the DVD because it's -R. If it were +R it would probably be much better and less chance of not reading?
[22:13] <morth_> Could anyone help me please? - i think i got a virus on my XP "using dualboot" and it opened as command prompt then made loud noises i got scared so rebooted now when i try to select to boot WinXP it shows a black screen no winlogo or anything.. and on Linux it says Unable to mount the volume 'WindowsXP'. if i try to access the XP Drive from Linux.
[22:13] <jeaton> any programs that will help me to convert from avi to dvd?
[22:13] <niklaus> i've this problem of showing man pages when i type info grub for example. How do i download all the info pages ? This is very annoying because in manpage they say refer info and when i do info grub i find the manpage itself
[22:13] <brianski> on menus particularly
[22:13] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: Correct
[22:14] <DavidCanarias> jeaton: Have you ou tride DVD95 converter?
[22:14] <brianski> jeaton: i'd imagine just about any dvd burning app will do
[22:14] <rww> mortuis99: looks like your windows partition got messed up. That's a Windows support question; ask in ##windows
[22:14] <rww> mortuis99: sorry, wrong person
[22:14] <rww> morth_: see above msg
[22:14] <RequinB4> morth_: in addition to that, know that until a proper shutdown from XP you cannot mount the partition in ubuntu
[22:14] <CaShMoNey> brianski: for dvd's and making menu's I'd suggest "DeVeDe"
[22:14] <niklaus> Is there anyway to download all the info pages ?
[22:14] <CaShMoNey> I think that's what it is
[22:15] <niklaus> someone help me on this
[22:15] <morth_> Now how would i go on and do that RequinB4 ?
[22:15] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Then I have learnt a lot this evening thks to both of you. Last question I think you mentionned something about the iso being stored in a temp file and disappearing after it's burnt? Or did I misinterprit what you said?
[22:15] <runa> heyas :) I've bought a new lcd 22' monitor but I cannot make it work in 1680x1050 (I get max 1400x1050). Any hints?
[22:15] <RequinB4> morth_: that's something you'll have to ask ##windows, i was just mentioning that that is your problem from the ubuntu side
[22:15] <Maizcul> reboot
[22:15] <morth_> oh alright thanks.
[22:15] <Seveas> runa, get a videocard that supports 1680x1050?
[22:15] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: that's only if you had chosen to use the burning utility to make your copies of the dvd
[22:16] <ardchoille> runa: Is the monitor capable of 1680x1050?
[22:16] <runa> ardchoille: yep, it's the recommended resolution
[22:16] <Maizcul> its a 22"
[22:16] <ardchoille> ok
[22:16] <RyanPrior> I want to have one X instance running for my desktop software, another for a fullscreen game. That way, when an instant message or something pops up, it doesn't pop me out of full screen mode. Can anybody help me do that?
[22:16] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: so no, you made an image of ur dvd that will stay on your hard drive until you manually delete it
[22:16] <SomeGuy7337> rww: inside of gconf-editor, in /apps/metacity/general/button_layout it lets you set the layout of the buttons and says that you can insert a spacer tag in there to add space between the buttons but no where can i find what that spacer tag is, i have tried multiple things.
[22:17] <D3RGPS31> how do I uninstall X
[22:17] <SomeGuy7337> gosh darn it
[22:17] <D3RGPS31> :D
[22:17] <fevel> I tried installing Gunz -TheDuel through wine, it installs fine and downloads all the petches. But when I click in play, the screen closes and nothing happens. Has anyone tried running this game?
[22:17] <SomeGuy7337> rww: i found it
[22:17] <SomeGuy7337> finally thanks
[22:17] <SomeGuy7337> i feel so dumb, i over complicated it so much
[22:17] <mgolisch> fevel: look at wines appdb
[22:17] <CaShMoNey> D3RGPS31: still don't wanna listen to my suggestion ehh?
[22:17] <rww> SomeGuy7337: yeah, it's just "spacer". See the example ;)
[22:17] <D3RGPS31> CaSHMoNey didn't work
[22:17] <fevel> mgolisch, it didnt help much has a gold rating
[22:17] <mgolisch> fevel: run from terminal
[22:18] <RyanPrior> fevel: you might want to ask in #winehq
[22:18] <CaShMoNey> D3RGPS31: what didn't work?
[22:18] <D3RGPS31> CaShMoNey init 3
[22:18] <SomeGuy7337> the spacer tag was "spacer" i tried "|", " ", and many others just did not thinkj that it was that simple
[22:18] <runa> ardchoille: I don't see any mention of 1400x1050 in the Xorg.0.log file, but the monitor shows a banner recommending to use 1680x1050
[22:18] <Maizcul> Terminal is coming for me? Run from it, run!
[22:18] <fevel> ok
[22:18] <CaShMoNey> D3RGPS31: init 3 only puts you to the command line interface
[22:18] <fevel> ill try that
[22:19] <D3RGPS31> CaShMoNey i should have told you, the computer has no keyboard, i connect to it through ssh
[22:19] <ardchoille> we lost the bot
[22:19] <Maizcul> !!lost
[22:19] <CaShMoNey> D3RGPS31: doesn't matter, if you use init 3 it'll make the physical workstation/server go into the cli mode
[22:19] <rocknroll> how to get the other's username without typing in Xchat
[22:19] <rocknroll>  how to get the other's username without typing in Xchat
[22:19] <RequinB4> !repeat
[22:19] <rocknroll>  how to get the other's username without typing in Xchat while replying
[22:19] <E4emacs4> you mean nick completion?
[22:20] <rocknroll> yes
[22:20] <E4emacs4> just type E4 than tab
[22:20] <RequinB4> rocknroll: tab
[22:20] <junk> hi, i've a problem of info pages not being download. So when i read manpages it says refer to info grub. When i do info grub i see the manpage. It is very annoying .How do i download all the info pages ?
[22:20] <rocknroll> yeah
[22:20] <CaShMoNey> E4emacs4: but you still have to type in xchat a lil
[22:20] <rocknroll> E4emacs4,  got it
[22:20] <E4emacs4> try to type at least 2 or 3 letters of their nick first, then tab
[22:20] <E4emacs4> :)
[22:21] <rocknroll> E4emacs4,  can we enable smiles in xchat
[22:21] <E4emacs4> sometimes you'll have to do TAB several times if theres a lot of people with similar nicks
[22:21] <CaShMoNey> :P
[22:21] <rww> junk: you need the -doc package for whatever package you're looking for. For example, grub-doc has the info files for grub
[22:21] <E4emacs4> the windows xchat has smilies i think
[22:21] <rocknroll> E4emacs4,
[22:21] <RequinB4> is ubottu offline?
[22:21] <junk> rww: how do i install all of them ? i can't go through each one
[22:21] <CaShMoNey> !wiki
[22:21] <E4emacs4> RequinB4, yep seems so
[22:21] <CaShMoNey> lol I'd say so
[22:22] <CaShMoNey> there it is
[22:22] <rww> junk: don't know, sorry
[22:22] <CaShMoNey> !wiki
[22:22] <CaShMoNey> !whoami
[22:22] <RequinB4> !botabuse
[22:22] <Maizcul> !bot died
[22:22] <RequinB4> just let it go :P
[22:22] <CaShMoNey> lol
[22:23] <AndyB> mgolisch, this is my menu.lst http://pastebin.com/m1bf6cb8d but now i get an error 2 Bad file or directory type :( Says Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[22:23] <exodus_ms> !anything
[22:23] <Phoenix87> bye!!
[22:23] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: Umm did you format with journalizing enabled?
[22:23] <gnutron> junk: install grub-doc
[22:24] <rww> gnutron: junk wants all the -doc packages for some reason, not just the grub one.
[22:24] <AndyB> CashMoney, What do you mean?
[22:24] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Last question tonight..... On the DVD I have two files as I told you. The web cam video part isn't correct on the speach (a failure on the part of the friend that did the recording and didn't check it). I have another DVD of the webcam part that is perfect. Can I copy this and replace the bad one on the iso image I have.  Or is this far too complicated. Thks in advance.
[22:24] <gnutron> rww: i see. ok
[22:24] <rocknroll> what is delphi??
[22:25] <AndyB> CashMoney, I just ran the ubuntu installer, didnt see anything about Journalizing
[22:25] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: If you have an ISO editor, you can
[22:25] <rocknroll> is delphi is a programming language
[22:25] <gnutron> junk: open synaptic, choose documention section[s] install as you see fit.
[22:25] <junk> rocknroll: yes
[22:25] <junk> gnutron: thanks
[22:25] <junk> gnutron: command line ?
[22:25] <jaja921992> Hello?
[22:25] <rocknroll> junk, for what purpose delphi is maily used?
[22:26] <gnutron> junk: in term, would be a bit harder
[22:26] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: well ext3 is indeed a journalized parittion, but if you didn't format it like "mke2fs -j /dev/hda" or whatever then it'll give you that error
[22:26] <jaja921992> Can I play civilazation 4 and age of empires 3 on this?
[22:26] <rocknroll> junk, what are al the advantages
[22:26] <rww> junk: do sudo aptitude, go to doc section, install as you see fit ;-)
[22:26] <CaShMoNey> jaja921992: I'd suggest googling it, as this isn't a wine channel
[22:26] <junk> rocknroll: wiki, it is just a better version of pascal
[22:26] <jaja921992> pascal sucks
[22:26] <jaja921992> cobol ftw
[22:27] <rww> !ot | junk, rocknroll, jaja921992
[22:27] <rocknroll> junk, thanks mate
[22:27] <AndyB> CaShMoNeY, Ah gah :( Is there no easy way to just set up grub so i can boot from xp internal and ubuntu external?
[22:27] <E4emacs4> lol rww three birds with one stone eh?
[22:28] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: You can. Just change the drive boot order in the bios
[22:28] <CaShMoNey> do a complete install of ubuntu on the external
[22:28] <hackintosh411> Hi Guys.
[22:28] <hackintosh411> I need help.
[22:28] <RequinB4> !hi
[22:28] <CaShMoNey> hackintosh411: with?
[22:29] <badawi> what the hell is the guest account! i need to disable it pronto
[22:29] <junk>      
[22:29] <hackintosh411> When installing a theme this yellow box below says, Theme will not look as intended GTK+ engine not installed.
[22:29] <Maizcul> !repeat
[22:29] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: and then change the boot order when you want to use ubuntu
[22:29] <hackintosh411> What should I do.
[22:29] <rocknroll> is it possible to hibernate in linux
[22:29] <exodus_ms> install a theme compatible with your settings
[22:29] <RequinB4> rocknroll: yes
[22:29] <CaShMoNey> hackintosh411: Umm install gtk
[22:29] <rocknroll> RequinB4,  how??
[22:30] <rww> hackintosh411: install the required gtk theme engine. The creator of the theme you're trying to install should tell you which one.
[22:30] <junk> TCPMSS     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp flags:SYN,RST tcpmss match 1400:1536 TCPMSS clamp to PMTU
[22:30] <junk> what is this rule in iptables ?
[22:30] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: did you get that?
[22:30] <RequinB4> rocknroll: It should be in the shutdown screen.  If itsnot you probably have an acpi problem
[22:30] <rocknroll> RequinB4, how can i hibernate
[22:30] <AndyB> CaShMoNeY, Well when in my bios, under boot and HDD, if i set the USB first, when it booots i get Media Test Failure, check cables and Invalid Partition table, usb is plugged in.
[22:31] <E4emacs4> !firewall | junk
[22:31] <AndyB> CashMoney, you think i should just do a whole fresh install of ubuntu to the external? any specific settings i need when doing so?
[22:31] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: I think it's cause you didn't format the external correctly
[22:31] <rocknroll> RequinB4, what is suspend
[22:31] <mgolisch> AndyB: can you list the files in grub? and what version of grub4dos did you download?
[22:32] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: yes, do the full install on the usb drive. Then change your boot order. Ubuntu should detect windows
[22:32] <isleshocky77> I don't know if it was a bad mount, but I now have a remnent directory left where I normally mount an external drive.  I can't delete it or ls. I get this: "ls: cannot access SDO Large: Input/output error"  Any ideas on how to get rid of it?
[22:32] <mgolisch> AndyB: in some forum posts it says one needs atleast 0.4.4 as in this release some error in the extfs driver was fixed that causes that issue you have
[22:32] <isleshocky77> ls of it's parent directory returns a listing like this: "d?????????  ? ?    ?       ?                ? SDO Large"
[22:32] <fevel> please friends, has anyone seen this error? <fevel> please anyone???
 I get this error running from terminal
 fixme:shdocvw:OleInPlaceObject_InPlaceDeactivate (0x13b488)
 fixme:mshtml:HlinkTarget_SetBrowseContext (0x160058)->((nil))
 fixme:shdocvw:OleObject_Close (0x13b488)->(1)
[22:32] <FloodBot2> fevel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 fixme:shell:DllCanUnloadNow stub
[22:32] <CaShMoNey> lol
[22:32] <RequinB4> rocknroll: suspend puts all of your data and current settings into RAM and puts into a minimal power usage mode and locks your screen.  Hibernate is like shut down but put all your setings and data etc on your hard drive (swap)
[22:32] <CaShMoNey> idiotoso
[22:32] <AndyB> CashMoney, I shall attempt this
[22:33] <exodus_ms> did you mean CDO or was it SDO?
[22:33] <CaShMoNey> idioso
[22:33] <fevel> sorry
[22:33] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: Yes.
[22:33] <gnutron> isleshocky77: you need to chmod 755 the-directory/  sudo may need to preceed the command.
[22:34] <CaShMoNey> AndyB: when it comes to installing bootload "grub" make sure you select your external drive
[22:34] <mgolisch> i thought the bios doenst support usb boot?
[22:34] <CaShMoNey> so it doesn't touch windows
[22:34] <mgolisch> hows that gona work out?
[22:34] <grendal_prime> do i need to use session_start() anymore?
[22:34] <junk> What is this rule in iptables , it comes default by ubuntu ? "TCPMSS     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp flags:SYN,RST tcpmss match 1400:1536 TCPMSS clamp to PMTU"
[22:34] <CaShMoNey> mgolisch: the newer systems do
[22:34] <isleshocky77> gnutron: "chmod: cannot access `SDO Large': Input/output error"
[22:34] <grendal_prime> i would assume that i do not.
[22:34] <emilien> i just installed arch on other partion but ubunu grub didin't pick it up what i add to grub file ?
[22:34] <CaShMoNey> isleshocky77: it's just a mount point. Are you root?
[22:35] <CaShMoNey> arch what?
[22:35] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Sorry just seen your reply. What is the repo called for iso editing???
[22:35] <CaShMoNey> I think ISO Master would work
[22:35] <isleshocky77> CaShMoNey: It's directory which was create as a mount point for my external drive automatically.  Now the drive is not mounted and that's left.  Found it because when I mount the drive it now mounts as 'SDO Large-1'
[22:36] <exodus_ms> are you running a mail server?
[22:36] <mgolisch> AndyB: make sure you used atleast grub4dos 0.4.4 as this should eliminate the problem you are seeing
[22:36] <AndyB> Mgolisch, grr i would have 0.4.3, just one build off
[22:36] <mgolisch> :)
[22:36] <AndyB> Ill download the latest now and just replace the files except for the menu.lst
[22:36] <mgolisch> yeah its confusing the new builds are at the bottom of the page
[22:36] <mgolisch> AndyB: yeah
[22:36] <mgolisch> :)
[22:36] <emilien> CaShMoNey,  arch linux
[22:36] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoney: I will try and find it. Thks.  Incidently I am trying now to make an identical copy of a DVD film I bought to see if it works, but I think something strange has happened. I will report back in a while if you don't mind? Let me know if you have had enough of me today OK???
[22:37] <AndyB> mgolisch, just updated it to a win_bin 1.0.1 version, rebooting
[22:37] <vitamin-carrot> good morning
[22:37] <vitamin-carrot> quick question
[22:37] <RequinB4> My HDD LED keeps flickering every 4 seconds.  Can i ignore this as normal operation?
[22:37] <Erealz> hi their guys
[22:38] <RequinB4> !hi
[22:38] <vitamin-carrot> i need to replace my mounted /dos hdd with a new one after i transfere everything across
[22:38] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: some dvd copies are copyprotected, meaning that they are encoded with a security feature to prevent copying. I only know of one program, and that's for windows, and it's called "AnyDVD"
[22:38] <CaShMoNey> RequinB4: Yeah, ignore it unless your system starts to be irresponsive
[22:38] <badawi> what's the default password for the guest account?
[22:38] <AndyB> mgolisch, no change, same error about filesystem
[22:38] <mgolisch> hm
[22:38] <Mohero> RequinB4: I think you can, yes, there's lots of things that will read/write to your disk even if you think the system is "idle"
[22:39] <Maizcul> guest?
[22:39] <isleshocky77> CaShMoNey, gnutron: any other ideas?
[22:39] <FiremanEd>   
[22:39] <FiremanEd> aaal
[22:39] <eternalswd> gedit segfaults for me when I try to run it in intrepid.  sudo gedit works fine.  anyone know a fix?
[22:39] <Erealz> I need some help. Im a freelance computer tech and one of my client is in need of a router with about 8 ports can someone recommend a good one?
[22:39] <thetrav> ok, so is there any way for me to shut down X and not have it automatically restart?
[22:39] <badawi> Maizcul: click on gdm user switcher there's guest session, it creates a giest account
[22:39] <vitamin-carrot> Erealz: wot coutry are you in?
[22:39] <RequinB4> Mohero CaShMoNey: I'm just paranoid every since i found out beagle wouldn't stop indexing my hard drive
[22:39] <AndyB> mgolisch, also i dont have any option to boot from usb in my boot options if i hit F12 it doesnt list usb but if i go into BIOS and Boot, its in there. but same thing, it wont boot even if i set it to boot usb first
[22:40] <thetrav> I should qualify that... I want it to star if I reboot the computer, but until then I don't need it running
[22:40] <thetrav> s/star/start
[22:40] <vitamin-carrot> Erealz: I would recomend netgear
[22:40] <CaShMoNey> RequinB4: it just means your computer is caching programs into ram.
[22:40] <Erealz> nyc
[22:40] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: I think you are right again as it won't read the copy I made an error came up. I did the copy as you said and it went thru it very quickly,  unlike earlier. In fact the film original film is 6.5gb and its only copied  174 mib which is only probably the title????? Any ideas??
[22:40] <Erealz> usa
[22:40] <isleshocky77> CaShMoNey, gnutron: Nevermind, figured it out.  Ran umount on it as a suggestion in a post in google.
[22:40] <Mohero> thetrav: you only want to shutdown X for the current session?
[22:40] <Erealz> could you linkmeup
[22:40] <AndyB> mgolisch, Should i just do the full reinstall of Ubuntu onto the drive, that way it should install grub like it did the first time. I will just need to keep the usb plugged in. I will want to change that, but it can be done once i get it all working again
[22:40] <RequinB4> CaShMoNey: I didn't think the light went off when RAM was acessed?
[22:41] <eternalswd> Erealz, netgear has had load issues for me whenever I had used them, I'd go with linksys
[22:41] <Mohero> thetrav: you can go into a console (CTRL + ALT + F1 ) then once logged in, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[22:41] <gggggggggg> how do i install a webcam
[22:41] <thetrav> Mohero, I want to shut down X for all sessions... I've got the computer in the kitchen and no peripherals plugged in to it...  Really I should have set it up different, but to save myself time I'd like to just turn off X
[22:41] <gggggggggg> cheese just closes
[22:41] <Erealz> welll on newegg all I find is 4 port ones?...
[22:41] <CaShMoNey> RequinB4: well it has to cache from hd to ram
[22:42] <RequinB4> CaShMoNey: ah. thx
[22:42] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: that's weird
[22:42] <roco324234543345> How do I install a jdbc driver for MSSQL?
[22:42] <vitamin-carrot> Erealz: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=423
[22:42] <badawi> !guest
[22:42] <Mohero> thetrav: ok, in that case you can install sysv-rc-conf and remove "GDM" from startup, then you can run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" when you want it
[22:43] <exodus_ms> RequinB4> take a terminal and type 'top' or 'sudo apt-get install htop' then you can see exactly what is going on
[22:43] <tripzero> I have an interesting problem.... I need to take a package list (via gpkg -l) from a very slimmed down version of feisty, diff it against intrepids default packages, and remove the packages that aren't in the feisty version...
[22:43] <tripzero> can anyone help me with that ?
[22:43] <thetrav> thanks mohero
[22:43] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: Glad you are of the same opinion. It all went too quickly compared to the earlier one. I wonder what could have happened. Do you think its a problem of the protection on the DVD?
[22:43] <Mohero> thetrav: no problem.
[22:43] <CaShMoNey> tripzero: I think ubuntu will only update what it has on it's system already
[22:43] <exodus_ms> have you tried 'dd ing' the disc?
[22:44] <RequinB4> exodus_ms: Thx, run htop all the time :P.
[22:44] <roco324234543345> hello.........Could someone tell me how to install a MSSQL jdbc driver in ubuntu?
[22:44] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: it's a good possibility
[22:44] <exodus_ms> RequinB4> just thought you could check htop to see if any hdd indexing from beagle was going on
[22:45] <RequinB4> exodus_ms: Actually no, but you reminded me to disable the clamav daemon, thx :)
[22:45] <exodus_ms> RequinB4> cool
[22:45] <irpapabear> hello all
[22:45] <RequinB4> !hi
[22:45] <davelbarton> I have installed VirtualBox with a Windows guest on an Ubuntu intrepid host.  After a long, long time working on the installation, I got it to work; now, however, none of the disks attached to the USB work.  I have tried several, so I don't think the disk is bad.  It has to be somewhere in the system after VirtualBox was in.  Can someone knowledgeable in both VirtualBox and ubuntu help me get my disk back?  When I try to access it, it g
[22:46] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: i'd make an image just like earlier, like that one guy said. And then do the process like the last one we did
[22:46] <badawi> davelbarton: free version of virtualbox doesn't support USB devices
[22:46] <FreeFull> I compiled a kernel .deb and when I try to install it, I get an error (output from dpkg showing the error: http://pastebin.com/m15d36553 )
[22:46] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: I think it's a permissions problem
[22:46] <davelbarton> I downloaded the full, non-free version, badawi.
[22:46] <davelbarton> Besides, this is in the host system, not the guest.
[22:46] <davelbarton> How so, Cashmoney?
[22:47] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: I installed the OSE version, and it works just fine. Don't know about the usb thing, but I'm guessing it's a permissions thing
[22:47] <eternalswd> Erealz, from my experience a linksys 4 port router + linksys 5 port switch is still faster than a single netgear router.
[22:47] <kernando> Can anyone help? i cant click on pretty much anything when i open a folder or any programs! i have to use my keyboard. but i know my mouse works because ive tried it on other partitions and it works a little bit on this one
[22:47] <CaShMoNey> You're running the virtualbox under root or under your username?
[22:47] <davelbarton> Thanks for the guess, Cashmoney.
[22:47] <CaShMoNey> well I mean with "Sudo"
[22:47] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: I wrote down everything we did earlier and copied it to the letter. I was mystified when it copied so quickly. I will try remaking the iso image and see if it does the same so quickly OK? Be back soon.
[22:47] <FreeFull> I compiled a kernel .deb and when I try to install it, I get an error (output from dpkg showing the error: http://pastebin.com/m15d36553 )
[22:47] <davelbarton> Under my username.
[22:47] <exodus_ms> !patient
[22:48] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: okay
[22:48] <davelbarton> (CashMoney: under my user name.)
[22:48] <E4emacs4> where do you get the non-free version of virtualbox ?
[22:48] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: right opening a console and open virtualbox using sudo
[22:48] <CaShMoNey> see if it works, if so, then it's definitely a permissions thing
[22:49] <Doller> hey
[22:49] <Doller> emeras
[22:49] <Doller> :*
[22:49] <davelbarton> Cashmoney, I'll try that.  However, I must point out that the USB is down even when VirtualBox is not operating.
[22:49] <EmeraS> :)))
[22:49] <irpapabear> he should have the partitions or drives mount before he run vbox...yes
[22:49] <Doller> how are you ?
[22:49] <Maizcul> lol, my battery takes 1 hr 30 to charge, and lasts 30 mins xD
[22:49] <FreeFull> I compiled a kernel .deb and when I try to install it, I get an error (output from dpkg showing the error: http://pastebin.com/m15d36553 ) Anyone willing to help?
[22:49] <Doller> EmeraS u are my girfriend yeah ?
[22:49] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: even with the vm isn't running? Then you must add it your fstab using the UUID
[22:49] <EmeraS> No
[22:49] <EmeraS> ;]
[22:49] <Doller> why ?
[22:49] <E4emacs4> !ot
[22:49] <Doller> :*
[22:49] <Maizcul> !ot
[22:49] <Doller> !ot
[22:49] <roco324234543345> hi...........does anyone know how to install MSSQL JDBC DRIVERS in ubuntu?
[22:50] <E4emacs4> ubottu down again?!
[22:50] <RequinB4> This is ridiculous
[22:50] <Maizcul> Dead bot is dead.
[22:50] <RequinB4> On a lighter note, can someone tell me how to show icons on my desktop?
[22:50] <Doller> EmeraS i think u have nice ass
[22:50] <CaShMoNey> Supybot probably banned itself LOL
[22:50] <Doller> :)
[22:50] <ubuntoRoxx> Hi. i have downloaded eclipse package. where can i put it so that all users can use it?
[22:50] <archangelpetro> can anyone tell me the latest version of blender in the ubuntu repositories?
[22:50] <CaShMoNey> latest or the stablest?
[22:51] <CaShMoNey> lol
[22:51] <irpapabear> trick question
[22:51] <eternalswd> archangelpetro, just check http://packages.ubuntu.com run a search for blender
[22:51] <davelbarton> ChashMonkey, when I tried that just now, VirtualBox came up, but did not know what machine was available (under my user name) or which disk was assigned.
[22:52] <Maizcul> !dead
[22:52] <keithclark> dax_roc, ok, works on XP.
[22:52] <davelbarton> (cashmoney, sorry --- my fingers slipped)
[22:52] <Guest47799> Alright dudes.  Have looked on ubuntu forums and cannot find an easy newbie fix for this. My Logitech QuickCam Messenger no longer works since upgrade to Intrepid. Any easy ideas that 1) cost nothing (don't want to replace camera as I am sure it still works) and 2) are easy for a numpty to implement. Ta for advice.
[22:52] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: so you navigate to the virtual box you have installed already
[22:52] <Saga_> Can somebody guide me to the right direction?  How do I install Mobloquer.  I looked at the forums -- There's no luck.  Still get the errors on the console.
[22:52] <zbyszek> hi can you tell what can i do with .par2 files?
[22:53] <Maizcul> zbyszek: whatever you want
[22:53] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: It has done exactly the same as the last time and very quickly. If you are interested to carry on with this theme I can pastebin the results of the desktop. I still have the original one we did earlier tonight to be able to compare with the 2 latest ones. Also I have another repo installed which should allow me to iso copy a DVD but it takes a long while. This may interest you too. Confirm first though as you have been h
[22:53] <Maizcul> Wall of text crits you for 99999
[22:53] <dick-richardson> how do I remove the subdirectory listing from an ls -R? I want the files IN the subdirectory...just not the directory itself
[22:53] <dewente> hello, vmware stops working in my ubuntu's pc ! help
[22:53] <badawi> CaShMoNey: virtualbox has the sticky flag on and user should be in the group vboxuser or something like that to use it. so it's already running as root
[22:53] <dick-richardson> dewente, since the kernel upgrade?
[22:54] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: it really depends on what it's meant to do. Give me the url to the pastebin
[22:54] <dewente> dick-richardson, i not sure of
[22:54] <Steven2> hmm
[22:54] <davelbarton> From a sudo, I can't.  It doesn't see them.  I'm sure there is some switch I could use to make the sudo version look at the .VirtualBox directory in my own folder, but I don't know what it is offhand.
[22:54] <davelbarton> (CashMoney, the previous was for you.)
[22:54] <davelbarton> Cashmoney and Badawi:  I'm already in vboxusers.
[22:54] <dick-richardson> run vmware-server from the terminal...paste the output into pastebin and paste that link here
[22:55] <Steven2> hi :)
[22:55] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: yes, upon installation, you should automatically be added. But I really think there's no mount point for you to mount to.
[22:55] <dewente> ok
[22:55] <Maizcul>  /afk
[22:55] <CaShMoNey> There must be a mount point
[22:55] <irpapabear> agrees
[22:55] <davelbarton> CashMoney, a mount point for VirtualBox?
[22:55] <CaShMoNey> no
[22:55] <dick-richardson> anyone know how to just list files in an ls listing?\
[22:55] <CaShMoNey> for your system
[22:55] <irpapabear> no
[22:55] <CaShMoNey> for the usb
[22:55] <kernando> hmmm has anyone ever had trouble with their mouse and the clicking?
[22:56] <davelbarton> CashMoney, there is a mount point for the usb disk, at /media/disk.  This worked before installing VirtualBox.
[22:56] <irpapabear> ls -f
[22:56] <DavidCanarias> Cant find the URL for pastebin can anyone help please?
[22:56] <dewente> dick-richardson, command no found
[22:56] <CaShMoNey> irpapabear: Umm a suggest, add the persons' name infront of the statement ;)
[22:57] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: a quick way to find it, google
[22:57] <keithclark> dax_roc, No worries....working in Linux is like applying bandaids to hardware.....nothing ever works quite right.
[22:57] <CaShMoNey> keithclark: no yet anyways.
[22:57] <CaShMoNey> cause it's constantly being updated
[22:57] <irpapabear> sowwy
[22:57] <archangelpetro> ok. maybe fedora was better
[22:57] <zizo> Hi all
[22:57] <CaShMoNey> fedora blows
[22:57] <CaShMoNey> lol
[22:57] <dewente> hello, vmware stops working in my ubuntu's pc ! help
[22:57] <irpapabear> hey ya zizo
[22:57] <zizo> I've a little problem with a chroot
[22:57] <badawi> where's the bot?
[22:58] <CaShMoNey> it died
[22:58] <tripzero> CaShMoNey: i've tried doing an update from feisty to gutsy to hardy to interpid, but I ended up with no sound :(.  not to mention, I was to remix intrepid in a more slimmed and niche specific way like I was able to do with feisty...
[22:58] <tripzero> s/was/want
[22:58] <zizo> The real ubuntu has the right time, with Europe/Rome as timezone, but also with local in clock. The same conf in chroot, but here it seems that "local" doesen't do anything
[22:58] <robert__> how can i load wow on my ubunto system?
[22:58] <keithclark> CaShMoNey, enough time has passed.  When will it be ready?
[22:58] <tripzero> robert__: apt-get install wine
[22:59] <irpapabear> robert why would U want to
[22:59] <robert__> cause i like to play it with my buddies at work
[22:59] <badawi> DavidCanarias: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:59] <zizo> So my chroot has +1 hour
[22:59] <CaShMoNey> keithclark: Umm I'm sorry, i've answered so many people already. What was wrong?
[22:59] <DavidCanarias> badawi: Many thks.
[22:59] <l3d> how would increase the ram of dosbox?
[23:00] <keithclark> CaShMoNey, see?  So many problems!  Serial to USB problems here
[23:00] <irpapabear> ppl still use dosbox???
[23:00] <dick-richardson> dewente, type vmware....see if that brings anything up
[23:00] <Saga_> I'm struggling with MoBlock.  How do I install MoBlock?  It's not in Synpathetic (sp).
[23:00] <robert__> can someone help coach me thourgh it, this is my first ubuntu operating system and i'm alittle retarded on doing it
[23:00] <CaShMoNey> l3d: well that's the funny thing. Dos only works with 1mb per process
[23:00] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: here is the link :  Sorry for the delay finding it:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/81065/
[23:00] <badawi> irpapabear: i still play king quest space quest and leisure suit larry :p
[23:01] <l3d> well this game  says needs 13mb am i am only using 10
[23:01] <zizo> The real ubuntu has the right time, with Europe/Rome as timezone, but also with local in clock. The same conf in chroot, but here it seems that "local" doesen't do anything
[23:01] <irpapabear> saga try google ipblock
[23:01] <zizo> So my chroot has +1 hour
[23:01] <Maizcul> back
[23:01] <nbeebo> !1337
[23:02] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: it's because that image already exists and it tried to put the image into ram
[23:02] <CaShMoNey> DavidCanarias: try renaming your ISO image
[23:02] <CaShMoNey> in the command
[23:02] <davelbarton> CashMoney, any more thoughts?
[23:03] <CaShMoNey> for installing a complete copy of ubuntu only on the usb drive?
[23:03] <davelbarton> Cashmoney, no, just to make the disk accessible at all under the Ubuntu host.
[23:04] <badawi> davelbarton: try samba
[23:04] <kernando> Hey, im having problems clicking on things with my mouse, but the problems only lie withing programs and inside fodlers i can clikc on programs but once they start i have to resort to using my keyboard.. is there any way to fix this?
[23:04] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: oh, that's right lol. .sorry
[23:04] <CaShMoNey> badawi: umm no.
[23:04] <kernando> also i am using 8.04 if thats a help?
[23:04] <davelbarton> No problem, Cashmoney.
[23:04] <DavidCanarias> CaShMoNey: I renamed the first iso image I made and filed it in videos.  Are you saying then it still remembers the other one although renamed and filed in another place?  You did mention something earlier to me about storing the iso???
[23:04] <techqbert> Client: Ubuntu 8.10 Server: OpenSolaris 101b.  When I ls on this machine on a mounted CIFS share, ls will output the same file many times although only one copy exists.  This doesn't happen with my other ubuntu machine that mounts by NFS.  Anybody have this problem before?
[23:04] <badawi> CaShMoNey: could work, he'll have it as a shared drive
[23:05] <CaShMoNey> badawi: if it's unaccessible in the host machine, there is no way samba will fix it
[23:05] <kernando> its been like this for a while now ive considered reinstalling ubuntu but i dont want to lose all my information
[23:06] <badawi> CaShMoNey: it's the other way around i believe
[23:06] <kernando> such as installed programs and saved preferences in my programs playlists etc
[23:06]  * badawi is checking the logs
[23:07] <exodus_ms> backup /home and or /etc
[23:07] <CaShMoNey> badawi: it's not a shared drive though. It's on the Host computer
[23:07] <CaShMoNey> and it isn't able to access it
[23:07] <CaShMoNey> so if it's not an accessible share, then how is it a workaround?
[23:07] <bender1337> Hi i have ubuntu 8.10 and it keeps freezing randomly i thinks it my xorg.conf file but don't know what to change.
[23:07] <eeboy__> I am trying to install PHP5 but libapache-mod-php5 doesn't seem to be in the repositories... any suggestions?
[23:08] <davelbarton> Exactly, badawi; I can get to my main disk fine, but the USB disk is dead.
[23:08] <coppro> Compiz is making my nonfocused windows have a slight transparency to them; this is irritating as I don't like it and it slows my computer down; how do I disable it
[23:08] <davelbarton> Interestingly, my palm pilot still is able to backup through the USB.
[23:08] <undeclaredx> Hey all.. fresh install of 8.10, compiz/nviida drivers working and what not... I want to get that desktop cube thing worknig (where you can rotate it and go to the next desktop), is there a good guide I can find?
[23:08] <kansan> is there a way on thunderbird for ubuntu hardy to .... do the 'archive' functionality that gmail does if you're logged into their web app?  if so, how?
[23:08] <undeclaredx> eeboy__ - apt-get install php5 should do everything, including that
[23:08] <undeclaredx> and install it.
[23:08] <roco324234543345> would someone please tell me how to install MSSQL JDBC drivers ?
[23:09] <coppro> undeclaredx: if the drivers are working, you should be able to turn that on in the settings manager
[23:09] <undeclaredx> eeboy__ - ideally, apt-get install apache php5 mysql-server
[23:09] <undeclaredx> that would be LAMP
[23:09] <badawi> davelbarton: so your problem is not with Vbox it's with mounting the usb disk to ubuntu
[23:09] <undeclaredx> coppro - where though, which one?
[23:09] <jabop> Hi, I'm trying to stop "HTTP Cache Cleaner..." from launching. How can I stop this? I'm running 8.10
[23:09] <undeclaredx> desktop cube?
[23:09] <coppro> yeah
[23:09] <coppro> also, rotate cube probably
[23:09] <undeclaredx> okay but
[23:09] <undeclaredx> how do I rotate it and what not
[23:09] <coppro> you change the settings in rotate cube
[23:10] <undeclaredx> oh
[23:10] <undeclaredx> done
[23:10] <undeclaredx> haha
[23:10] <undeclaredx> ctrl-alt-mouse1
[23:10] <undeclaredx> geez
[23:10] <FloodBot2> undeclaredx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <eeboy__> undeclaredx: Thanks... I'll give that a shot
[23:10] <davelbarton> Exactly, badawi, but only *after* VirtualBox was installed.
[23:10] <DrX> does Linux have an easy NTBackup equivalent that let you backup your entire OS drive to a share on an NTFS USB drive on a Windows share?
[23:10] <E4emacs4> will the non-free Virtualbox expire after a certain time or something?
[23:10] <rebort> hello guys
[23:10] <davelbarton> badawi: I can't draw a cause - effect relationship between the two, but my intuition says it is there.
[23:10] <bender1337> hi rebort
[23:11] <kernando> `Q`1E
[23:11] <davelbarton> Badawi and Cashmoney: the USB Disk worked before VirtualBox went on, and did not afterwards.
[23:11] <kernando> oops sorry
[23:11] <badawi> davelbarton: is it ntfs?
[23:11] <rebort> i get always the error: [dvd-slideshow] ERROR during mplex execution! from mandvd. does any body know how to solve this bug?
[23:11] <kernando> also i never had these problems until installed things for compize
[23:12] <kernando> compiz*
[23:12] <badawi> davelbarton: can us see it with lsusb
[23:12] <El_Rigolo> allez
[23:12] <undeclaredx> eeboy__ - that will install php, apache, mysql, and get it all working.. you can add phpmyadmin too if you like
[23:12] <El_Rigolo> Bonne nuit a tous =)
[23:12] <kernando> but i cannot find anything online
[23:12] <kernando> not on gooogle
[23:12] <rebort> was someone able to run mandvd without any errors????
[23:12] <davelbarton> Badawi, I believe it is FAT32.  That's the usual default for external drives these days, for universality.  However, I'm not completely sure.
[23:13] <E4emacs4> will the non-free Virtualbox expire after a certain time or something?
[23:13] <badawi> E4emacs4: read the license
[23:13] <eeboy__> undeclaredx: It looks like it installed... although it doesn't seem to be interpreting my test php file
[23:13] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: I'd use fdisk to check the partition id is correct and then if it isn't, change it to ext3 if there is one
[23:14] <badawi> davelbarton: can you see it with lsusb?
[23:14] <Maizcul> Riddle me this, Riddle me that, Who's afraid of the big black bat?
[23:14] <E4emacs4> badawi, i skimmed over it, but didnt see anything about it expiring or disabling
[23:14] <davelbarton> Badawi, I don't believe so.
[23:14] <CaShMoNey> Maizcul: <--Loves Batman :P
[23:15] <Mustinet> i have installed samba, and  other systems are see my computer(windows) in shared networks. but i'm not see windows computer in networks
[23:15] <Maizcul> To be honest, I just enjoy riddles :P
[23:15] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: also, I've read something about usb drives having to be formatted in vfat 16
[23:16] <badawi> CaShMoNey: seems more serious than that, he can't see the device as a whole, not just the filesystem
[23:16] <rebort> damn it!
[23:16] <Maizcul> !dead
[23:16] <CaShMoNey> badawi: then I'd check your cables
[23:16] <CaShMoNey> his*
[23:16] <badawi> and power
[23:16] <rebort> i get piss off
[23:17] <CaShMoNey> yup yup
[23:17] <rebort> pissed
[23:17] <rebort> :-)
[23:17] <rebort> sry
[23:17] <CaShMoNey> rebort for what?
[23:17] <rebort> mandvd makes me sick
[23:17] <Maizcul> devede ftw
[23:17] <rebort> i tried and tried and tried to make it run
[23:17] <davelbarton> Cashmoney: no, fdisk cannot find it.  However, it appears on the file browser without an eject symbol beside it.
[23:17] <rebort> but there is a bug
[23:18] <davelbarton> Cashmoney, a time after trying to get to it, I get a org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: error.
[23:18] <Maizcul> POBKAC
[23:18] <rebort> I get always the error: [dvd-slideshow] ERROR during mplex execution!
[23:18] <Maizcul> Problem occurs between keyboard and chair.
[23:18] <rebort> haha
[23:18] <davelbarton> Cashmoney, note: the problem occurs with all my USB ports, all my USB to disk cables (I have 3) and all my usb disks.
[23:19] <Maizcul> Reinstall USB Drivers?
[23:19] <rebort> I'm lucky. so it's not my fault - I'm standing
[23:19] <linux_> k
[23:19] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: Hmm sounds to me like the drivers for your usb went somewhere
[23:19] <mbcudmore> Question: Is it new that processes can become uninterruptible and freeze my system? Firefox 3.4 does this often to me on Ubuntu 8.10.
[23:19] <peterloorke> i'm having the same problem with Mustinet, windows machines in my network can see my computer but i can't, any advice?
[23:19] <davelbarton> I can check this.  But note my Palm Pilot still backs up.
[23:19] <Maizcul> It's from all the porno you leave open
[23:19] <badawi> davelbarton: did you try rebooting? or restarting dbus?
[23:20] <Maizcul> Less of that open in firefox and you should be fine
[23:20] <irpapabear> lol
[23:20] <badawi> dbus is a service in ubuntu right? sorry my first week of ubuntu
[23:20] <rebort> peterloorke disable all firewalls and bring up all network services
[23:20] <kernando> should i reinstall my drivers for my mouse or something? how would i do that!!!!
[23:20] <peterloorke> it's already done rebort
[23:21] <rebort> what's about the network services?
[23:21] <Maizcul> kernando: 1) uninstall them, 2) install theam
[23:21] <CaShMoNey> but I thought you just said that nothing USB works?
[23:21] <nbeebo> why does conky cover up my desktop icons?
[23:21] <Maizcul> them^
[23:21] <Saga_> Anybody here use Moblock?  This is seriously annoying me.
[23:21] <peterloorke> i can see machines, and those names but i can't get any other information except the machine names P
[23:21] <mbcudmore> unhelpful
[23:21] <kernando> oh gee why didnt i think of that
[23:21] <peterloorke> their* i mean
[23:21] <afief> mbcudmore, the fact that an application can make your *system* unusable is a bug in the system, a bug report would be helpful
[23:21] <rebort> do you have apache installed?
[23:21] <peterloorke> no
[23:21] <afief> mbcudmore, you should try to ssh in remotely to see if the bug lies in xorg or somewhere else... the "system" is rather huge
[23:21] <badawi> davelbarton: paste the output of lsusb -v
[23:22] <rebort> hmm
[23:22] <nil>  the way... how do I remove the landscape.canonical commercial from my login message?
[23:22] <badawi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:22] <mbcudmore> afief, i'll try next time it happens/
[23:22]  * nil is quite shocked do see such a commercial message at login....
[23:22] <peterloorke> also Mustinet can't see machines under workgroup
[23:23] <davelbarton> badawi, sorry about the delay --- my dog went bananas.  Yes, I have rebooted many times.  I haven't tried just manually restarting dbus.
[23:23] <afief> mbcudmore, good luck. my brother had this problem today, turned out it was a race condition when gtk programs(in my case pidgin) open too many windows too quickly
[23:23] <jabop>  Hi, I'm trying to stop "HTTP Cache Cleaner..." from launching. How can I stop this? I'm running 8.10
[23:23] <kernando> Maizcul, thanks for acknowledging me at least lol oh god
[23:23] <badawi> davelbarton: paste the output of lsusb -v  to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:23] <davelbarton> Cashmoney, I meant to say that none of the UDB *disks* work.  The Palm Pilot works.
[23:23] <rebort> peterloorke is sharing activated? hdd setup for sharing?
[23:23] <robert__> what does deb mean?
[23:24] <dimedo> hi, i configured a german keyboard driver in System/Administation/Keyboard. now if i boot up, the correct driver is still shown up but an US layout is used. but if i then restart xserver, the correct german layout is used. the problem is only related to x, in the framebuffer consoles the german driver is loaded all the time
[23:24] <peterloorke> ummmmm.. i guess i don't know
[23:24] <rebort> deb is the abreviation for debian
[23:24] <peterloorke> how can i be sure if that's activated or not?
[23:24] <robert__> rebort, k, what the hell is that?
[23:24] <Maizcul> Debian? All this time I thought it was for Deborah!
[23:24] <irpapabear> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ipblock-graphical-ip-blocker.html
[23:24] <digitalfiz> omg me too Maizcul!
[23:25] <rebort> debian=deborah/Jan
[23:25] <justizin1> is xen Dom0 support in Ubuntu 8.10, or only kvm?  I installed ubuntu-xen-desktop and rebooted, new kernel is the one that booted, but xm throws errors.
[23:25] <irpapabear> oops
[23:25] <MonthOLDpickle> Is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[23:25] <mbcudmore> thanks afief. it is frustrating that I cannot force kill such "uninterruptible" apps. i've reduced the problem at least by not opening several apps at system startup, but i think the flash plugin may be involved. I'll try ssh and may do a bug report later.
[23:25] <davelbarton> Doing that now, badawi.
[23:25] <justizin1> MonthOLDpickle: yep
[23:25] <MonthOLDpickle> For intel?
[23:25] <irpapabear> that link was for U saga
[23:25] <CaShMoNey> I think I know what's the problem
[23:25] <mgolisch> MonthOLDpickle: yeah
[23:25] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: search for usbutils
[23:25] <peterloorke> btw windows machines can access my computer in the same network
[23:25] <afief> mbcudmore, wait, is it that you can't kill the process or that the system freezes?
[23:26] <robert__> how do you tell what kind of system you have, edgy-dapper-or breezy?
[23:26] <mgolisch> MonthOLDpickle: on the download page select 64bit
[23:26] <davelbarton> Usbutils?  OK.   Let me paste, then I'll do that.
[23:26] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: "apt-cache search usbutils"
[23:26] <MDWailes> server -ssl irc.ruffdogs.com 6670
[23:26] <mgolisch> robert__: lsb_release -a
[23:26] <mbcudmore> can't kill the process, so can't run the application (firefox) and other apps begin to become unintteruptible and freeze as well. so I restart.
[23:26] <Maizcul> !ot
[23:26] <rebort> go to the harddrive you want to acces and check the properties in the context menu peeterlorke
[23:26] <Maizcul> dead bot is still dead
[23:27] <irpapabear> !ot
[23:27] <CaShMoNey> lol
[23:27] <ramen> hi ^^ i've activated "animations add-on" in ccsm but the animations aren't happening... is there something else i need to do to get them to work?
[23:27] <afief> mbcudmore, sounds like something is using up insane amounts of memory... you might want to add a memory meter to your task panel(system monitor applet in gnome)
[23:27] <peterloorke> haa you mean windows machine's hdd?
[23:27] <dewente> hello, vmware stops working in my ubuntu's pc ! help
[23:27] <Maizcul> ramen: Give them a pay rise.
[23:27] <ramen> haha
[23:27] <lovinglinux> Hi. Does someone know a cli app that can display reminders in the system notification baloons?
[23:27] <afief> mbcudmore, the best way to kill a process is sudo kill -9 pid(not sure you need sudo, but it doesn't hurt if you know your pid)
[23:27] <ChamPro> I'm having an issue connecting to a Samba share (my NAS), though I can connect to a different Samba share (on my server). The "Connect to" dialog does not connect and it seems that it's disregarding capitalization. So the share I want is Volume_2, but in the dialog it insists on saying volume_2
[23:28] <davelbarton> I have been interrupted (very important interrupt).
[23:28] <mbcudmore> afief, will do. sometimes  the system even refuses to shut down because the process can't be stopped.
[23:28] <davelbarton> ChainMoney, I'll check for usbutils.
[23:28] <peterloorke> it's ok, i'm sure about thw windows machi$ne's sharing options cuz i can see the same computer by an another windows machine
[23:28] <davelbarton> Thanks, everyone, for help and advice.
[23:28] <badawi> bye
[23:28] <davelbarton> And I'll get that pasted of you're around, badawi.
[23:28] <CaShMoNey> davelbarton: I love how you get my name wrong every time
[23:28] <afief> mbcudmore, that sounds like something's written in one of those stupid over-used "uninteruptible" code sections... I hate it when people use too many of those
[23:29] <ramen> i've offered the effects double salary but they're still not working.  anyone else have an idea?
[23:30] <mbcudmore> afief, uninteruptible is a keyword in the source code? ingenious.
[23:30] <Maizcul> ramen: Company Cars?
[23:30] <rebort> peterloorke: it depends on which machine you want to connect to
[23:30] <badawi> how can i set the "default session" to be gnome for new users? i installed lxde and that seems to have taken over. now if a i create a new user, when they login, it would be a lxde session not a gnome session
[23:31] <afief> mbcudmore, yeah something like that, for example in a database you want some stuff to either fully execute or not at all, but it should be VERY small sections and VERY well checked code
[23:31] <mrmike> Question, trying to install ubuntu from CD I get the sr0 error, I've since installed using the mini iso but just curious, what caused it not to like my dvd rom? It's an adopted Lightscribe DVD burner from an old HP machine
[23:31] <ramen> maizcul: nope, they don't need cars.  or something
[23:31] <ramen> maizcul: something about a paper plane?  idk
[23:31] <rebort> peterloorke did it work?
[23:32] <rob> anyone mind helping me get an epson stylus 7000F's scanner working in ubuntu?
[23:32] <peterloorke> rebort: hmmmm.. but the computer which i want to connect is accessable from another windows machine. but i can't connect via ubuntu
[23:33] <peterloorke> i can see it's name under workgroup but when i clicked on it there's nothing in that
[23:33] <Linuxnoob100> is there a way to automatically detect my router? im hard wired. ubuntu server 8.04
[23:33] <mgolisch> Linuxnoob100: just configure the network with dhcp
[23:33] <ChamPro> I get the same case error when I just type it into Nautilus smb://10.1.1.5/Volume_2 changes to volume_2 when the password dialog comes up
[23:33] <Linuxnoob100> how?
[23:34] <rebort> peterloorke do you want to access from your linux machine your windows machine or the other way round?
[23:34] <nbeebo> how come some things get invicible behind other transparent things on my desktop?
[23:34] <nbeebo> i can make screenshot if u want
[23:34] <mgolisch> Linuxnoob100: edit the /etc/network/interfaces file, documentation can be found in man interfaces
[23:34] <peterloorke> rebort: i want to connect a windows machine from my linux computer
[23:34] <lovinglinux> Why this channel always have 1210 users?
[23:34] <rob> Anyone know where i can get drivers for the Epson Stylus CX7000F multifunction 's scanner?  Epson doesnt seem to make them available.  Any packages out there?
[23:34] <nbeebo> because some people got thier names registered i guess
[23:34] <ChamPro> related issue, why does the option to connect to a SMB share in Midnight Commander come up on my server (Ubuntu Server) but not on my desktop (Ubuntu as well)
[23:35] <peterloorke> i can connect linux computer from a windows machine already. i want the other way
[23:35] <zetheroo> ﻿I am trying to get a GTK theme to work in Ubuntu without messing up Firefox ... and there is a readme with the package but the Firefox file I am supposed to edit does not exist on my system ....
[23:35] <lovinglinux> nbeebo: makes sense. but this number never change.
[23:35] <rebort> peterloorke in that case you need to install the apache client
[23:36] <nbeebo> lovinglinux, never? propaganda lol
[23:36] <peterloorke> allright then i can install it via synaptic right?
[23:37] <nbeebo> why does this happen? http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Screenshot.png
[23:37] <rebort> peterloorke wait!
[23:37] <lovinglinux> nbeebo: yep lol
[23:38] <calwig> does anyone know how to use clive??
[23:38] <nbeebo> !clive
[23:38] <__mikem> i have a question. When you fix it so you boot linux from a thumb drive, does the /home area exist on the thumb drive as well?
[23:38] <rebort> sorry peterloorke, i was wrong. of course not apache, samba. you need samba client/samba server
[23:39] <rebort> it depends on what you want to do
[23:39] <nbeebo> someone made so i cant use !commands
[23:39] <lovinglinux> gtodo
[23:39] <n2diy> What is the current version of CVS?
[23:39] <peterloorke> hey i was wondering that actually lol i already have samba installed.
[23:39] <peterloorke> i'm trying to connect by samba
[23:39] <calwig> nbeebo: seems like clive isnt available thanks
[23:39] <ChamPro> n2diy: current as in newest CVS version or current as in newest in the Ubuntu repositories?
[23:39] <rebort> but best is will be to have a look at the ubuntu wiki
[23:39] <nbeebo> why does this happen?:  http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Screenshot.png sorry for long link
[23:40] <nbeebo> calwig, np lol
[23:40] <rdw200169> __mikem: it doesn't have to
[23:40] <peterloorke> ye sactually i looked there before but i'l check one more time thanks for everything rebort
[23:40] <btoogood> hey there all
[23:40] <aboSamoor> Hi, I installed ubuntu-desktop. I want to uninstall gnome so I can it faster on my PIII, any idea ?
[23:40] <nbeebo> yo man
[23:40] <__mikem> rdw200169: but can it? as in, could it be like a live CD that you can write to?
[23:40] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cvs&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[23:40] <rebort> peterloorke: easy :-)
[23:40] <calwig> nbeebo: :)
[23:40] <ChamPro> nbeebo: looks like the Blackbox bar is overtop of AVN
[23:41] <rebort> you have many options to do what you want to do..............
[23:41] <etale> hi all, I just insttalled kubuntu on a friends computer, and ethernet doesn't seem to be working
[23:41] <nbeebo> champro; its tint2.. it rox.. lol... but cant u have it on the same level so to speak?
[23:41] <etale> it worked for a moment and then quit
[23:41] <rdw200169> __mikem: why not just install ubuntu *to* a usb drive
[23:41] <ChamPro> aboSamoor: you could install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage... you can install it using Synaptic
[23:41] <etale> default gateway isn't assigned i noticed
[23:41] <Scunizi> How do I determin what driver my webcam is successfully using?
[23:41] <__mikem> rdw200169: isn't that what that thing does
[23:41] <rdw200169> __mikem: there are some big problems with using thumbdrives, though,
[23:41] <Saga_> Anybody experiencing issues with MoBlock Updating?
[23:41] <rebort> you can also use ssh. but then you need to install open-ssh server
[23:41] <__mikem> rdw200169: :( what kind
[23:42] <nbeebo> abosamoor: aptitude search gnome and uninstall everything with gnome in its name i guess, or www.google.com for uninstall gnome
[23:42] <rdw200169> __mikem: b/c thumbdrives have a certain # of reads/writes that they can do, before they fry
[23:42] <etale> can someone please help?
[23:42] <alabamahit> I cant seem to restor my MBR on windows i formated the hard drive that ubuntu was on...but now the grub is loading still...
[23:42] <Maizcul> !dead
[23:42] <rdw200169> __mikem: they don't last forever...
[23:42] <ChamPro> nbeebo: no idea, but probably not. Maybe you can move tint2 to a different part of the screen
[23:42]  * blobX hi all where does network managers saves infor about network (like IP adr netmask and gw) ?
[23:42] <n2diy> ChamPro, Ubuntu versions don't conform to CVS versions? Uck. InuitiveNipple ok, thanks
[23:42] <jordo2323> etale, pull up a terminal and ping 4.2.2.2
[23:42] <ChamPro> n2diy: they do, but the repositories aren't updated that often
[23:43] <btoogood> hey there just a question, i installed ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop and it wouldnt connect to the internet ia my modem router not even with the live cd, ut with hardy no problems i can connect any ideas would it be safe to upgrade via the update manager
[23:43] <__mikem> rdw200169: thats a bummer. Is that true for all flash memory?
[23:43] <rdw200169> __mikem: thumbdrives will always be good for storing files and such
[23:43] <nbeebo> ChamPro, dammit.. well ill set it on left side, thanks for help!
[23:43] <rob> backport repository to use while in interpid?
[23:43] <rdw200169> __mikem: just not running an OS, because the OS will perform a billion reads/writes a day (exaggeration)
[23:43] <\Kira> What is the partitioner option that says :Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" mean? Whats LVM? This is during the installation
[23:43] <ChamPro> n2diy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/cvs
[23:43] <n2diy> ChamPro, Ok on that, whatever is fairly current compared to what Ubuntu 5.05 is offeringf.
[23:43] <rdw200169> __mikem: same problem presents itself when using a thumbdrive as a swap file for windows
[23:44] <etale> jordo2323 I got a reply from some addres icmp_seq destination host unreachable
[23:44] <ChamPro> n2diy: though it really depends on what Ubuntu version you're running
[23:44] <__mikem> rdw200169: that really sucks. It would have been really cool if i could just cary my entire linux environment in my pocket
[23:44] <rdw200169> __mikem: it's not the same for all flash media, you have to check the specs for each individual device
[23:44] <zaza86> #ubuntu.chat.it
[23:44] <nbeebo> how can i stop conky from covering my gnome desktop icons?
[23:44] <btoogood> anyone
[23:45] <rdw200169> __mikem: you could try using a usb hard drive
[23:45] <lauren_> hi
[23:45] <Maizcul> nbeebo: close conky
[23:45] <zaza86> #ubuntu-it-chat
[23:45] <rdw200169> __mikem: it would be slow, though
[23:45] <jordo2323> etale: You don't have a connection....  ifconfig eth0
[23:45] <nbeebo> maizcul, thanks for help but that will prob. close conky :S
[23:45] <jordo2323> etale, ip address in there?
[23:45] <__mikem> rdw200169: I don't have any USB hard drives available
[23:45] <Maizcul> move the icons?
[23:45] <ChamPro> n2diy: looking quickly at the CVS homepage, the version in Intrepid Ibex is newer than the stable posted on the CVS servers
[23:46] <nbeebo> maizcul, i got it on top right corner and icons on left so its a X thingy... thanks anyway
[23:46] <Maizcul> i keep mine in the bottom left corner
[23:46] <Maizcul> :P
[23:46] <etale> jordo2323 inet6 addr is something weird like fe80::202:... more stuff
[23:47] <nbeebo> dam u :/
[23:47] <nbeebo> anyone know any good theme manager without the need of gnome?
[23:47] <jordo2323> etale, above that.....what's the inet address?
[23:47] <jordo2323> etale, is there one?
[23:48] <etale> jordo2323 there's no inet address, it's not even an empty space with that heading
[23:48] <rdw200169> __mikem: i'm not saying you *can't* install to a thumbdrive, I'm just saying that it's like "playing with fire"
[23:48] <__mikem> rdw200169: I understand
[23:48] <lauren_> can someone help me? I have problems with the menu lst
[23:48] <lauren_> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[23:48] <jordo2323> etale, are you wireless or connected via ethernet cable?
[23:48] <lauren_> in this line
[23:48] <Maizcul> Oh yummy, automagic kernal krunch!
[23:48] <rdw200169> __mikem: if you do choose to do that, you should make sure several things take place; for example, disable a lot of logging, don't use a swap, and make sure your bios can boot from usb
[23:49] <lauren_> yes...
[23:49] <__mikem> rdw200169: I understand. Thanks
[23:49] <steven> hello!
[23:49] <lauren_> upgrading to 8.10 I made a mistake
[23:49] <steven> hows you all?
[23:49] <etale> jordo2323 connected by ethernet. two computers sharing the same livebox by ethernet
[23:49] <steven> *how's
[23:49] <btoogood> hey there just a question, i installed ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop and it wouldnt connect to the internet ia my modem router not even with the live cd, ut with hardy no problems i can connect any ideas would it be safe to upgrade via the update manager
[23:50] <Cyberai> Has anyone fixed the no-audio problem in 8.10? I have tried everything I can find with google and on the ubuntu forums and I still have no audio. Please help.
[23:50] <ubuntoRoxx> how do i install JDK (not JRE) on ubuntu?
[23:50] <btoogood> lauren_: how is that
[23:50] <lauren_> I erased the 8.10 entry on the automagic
[23:50] <rdw200169> __mikem: you could, also, try keeping your /home on a separate thumb drive, keeping read/writes to a minimum on *one* drive
[23:50] <jordo2323> etale, do you know your network adapter and if its assigned to eth0, eth1?
[23:50] <jordo2323> etale, ifconfig eth1
[23:50] <zetheroo> does anyone know how to edit Firefox CSS files to make the text in forms a different color?
[23:50] <Krumar> Hey, i'm trying to send files between two ubuntu 8.10 systems over bluetooth, i can pair them but not send any files i just get the error org.openbox.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed
[23:50] <nbeebo> anyone know any good gtk theme manager without the need of gnome?
[23:50] <the_dark_warrio> I have an Ubuntu iso image file. Is it possible to boot from this iso?
[23:50] <lauren_> now grub only shows entries for 8.04 but they don't work
[23:50] <the_dark_warrio> whitout burning to a disk
[23:50] <Mastastealth> anyone know why my Ubuntu shows 100% processor use when System Monitor shows nothing in the processes list USING that much? I already disabled compiz, cairo-dock, and have no apps open
[23:51] <rdw200169> __mikem: kinda like splitting the load, but that requires making absolute sure that fstab uses UUID's for matching mounted partitions
[23:51] <__mikem> the_dark_warrio: are you on windows?
[23:51] <etale> jordo2323 ifconfig eth1 gives 'device not found'
[23:51] <the_dark_warrio> __mikem: no, Ubuntu
[23:51] <gnutron> etale: just for fun try sudo dhclient eth0  [provided eth0 is your network interface] or sudo ifup eth0
[23:51] <rdw200169> __mikem: so you can use the setup on different computers
[23:51] <__mikem> the_dark_warrio: oh, I was going to recomend wubi
[23:51] <nbeebo> the_dark_warrio yes it is, usb would be the easiest then u can boot from hdd too, doesnt know anything else
[23:51] <kbrooks> Hi
[23:51] <ccmonster> ubtunuRoxx, in a terminal type apt-get install java, then tap the tab key a few times
[23:51] <jordo2323> etale, sudo dhclient eth0
[23:51] <kbrooks> I have a question.
[23:51] <steven> __mikem: hi there
[23:51] <E4emacs4> you could use virtualbox to load that iso
[23:51] <ccmonster> it will show you lots of packages, look at the list, determine which one you need
[23:51] <DaveDixonII> kbrooks: Ask.
[23:51] <__mikem> steven: hey?
[23:51] <steven> how are ya!
[23:51] <__mikem> Fine
[23:51] <steven> you look familial
[23:51] <kbrooks> How do I speed up Ubuntu boot?
[23:51] <steven> good. :|
[23:52] <steven> :D
[23:52] <gnutron> etale: i'm on hardy, intrepid has broken many inet connections.
[23:52] <DreaDy> hi
[23:52] <Maizcul> kbrooks: Upgrade your hardware
[23:52] <DreaDy> how get to ubuntu chanel in spanish
[23:52] <nbeebo> kbrooks i think theres lots to it so i advice u to google it, its a popular question...
[23:52] <DreaDy> ??
[23:52] <DaveDixonII> kbrooks: I haven't been able to speed it up. It shouldnt take that long. At least 2 minutes
[23:52] <rdw200169> kbrooks: chances are, if you use dhcp for the network, that it wastes time waiting for an ip
[23:52] <ubuntoRoxx> ccmonster:  Okay...how can i check if there is already a JDK on the machine?
[23:52] <gnutron> kbrooks: investigate your dmesg output for clues.
[23:52] <btoogood> gnutron: what happened
[23:52] <ccmonster> well you should have some java packages installed
[23:53] <ccmonster> if that's the case, and JDK is on there, open up synaptic
[23:53] <etale> jordo2323 ok dhclient eth0 id doing something weird... now 'no dhcpoffeers received, no working leases in persistent database-sleeping'
[23:53] <kbrooks> gnutron: Meaning?
[23:53] <ccmonster>  and do a search,
[23:53] <ubuntoRoxx> ccmonster: Where should they be
[23:53] <gnutron> btoogood: are you referring to my intrepid comment?
[23:53] <ccmonster> should? Not sure off the top of my head
[23:53] <nbeebo> anyone know any good gtk theme manager without the need of gnome?
[23:53] <btoogood> gnutron: yip
[23:53] <jordo2323> etale, are you both plugged into a switch?  Are you on DHCP or do you have a static Ip?
[23:53] <ubuntoRoxx> ccmonster: Can i search the entire system?
[23:54] <lauren_> I would like to know if I can fix the menu lst only by changing the entries
[23:54] <gnutron> btoogood: only my observation, its seems to be very common, i'm on hardy yet.
[23:54] <ccmonster> yes. Go into System.
[23:54] <lauren_> from 8.04 in 8.10?
[23:54] <ccmonster> Administrator, Synaptic package manager
[23:54] <ccmonster> then look around in there.
[23:54] <DreaDy> join #ubuntu-es
[23:54] <DreaDy> join #ubuntu-es
[23:54] <nbeebo> anyone know if i can get gnome menu with a command?
[23:55] <etale> jordo2323 so im not really sure, it's a box delivered to my apartment by an internet provider, the non-functioning computer is set to dhcp
[23:55] <gnutron> btoogood: i have also seem intrepid change bios settings, thats a bit weird too. :)
[23:55] <Linuxnoob100> hello can swomeone help me in ubuntu server: i get couldnt read interfaces file /etc/network/interfaces.... i dont know whats wrong
[23:55] <etale> jordo2323 er let me verify that, ive been fooling around with things
[23:55] <gnutron> btoogood: seen, not seem. sorry.
[23:55] <btoogood> gnutron: seems like it on hardy my system works fine, when i installed intrepid on my machine no network even though it says it has and is connected but on hardy no worries that is what i am on now, as for the bios that is scary
[23:55] <jordo2323> etale, see if you have link lights blinking on your nic card...
[23:55] <ubuntoRoxx> ccmonster: will that also show already installed packages?
[23:55] <tony_> testing connection
[23:56] <etale> jordo2323 they're bright but not blinking
[23:56] <gnutron> btoogood: yes, its troubling some ppl have no issues at all!  go figure ;p
[23:56] <Distro> does anyone know a good program/app to display a screen saver as a wallpaper
[23:56] <etale> jordo2323 when i try fooling around with settingss, i get a warning that 'the default gateway ip address is invalid'
[23:57] <Saga_> Easy question -- How do you know if you're using amd64 or not?
[23:57] <Saga_> Kernel*
[23:57] <jordo2323> etale, ok....running gnome?
[23:57]  * steven scratches his head
[23:57] <etale> jordo2323 no its kde
[23:57] <btoogood> gnutron: same thing when i boot in to the live cd of intrepid same thing hmm
[23:57] <gnutron> btoogood: the developers will fix it. bless their souls, until then, i'm waiting to upgrade.
[23:57] <jgoguen> is there a way using cups-pdf to specify the file name at print time?
[23:57] <irpapabear> saga ls -hw
[23:57] <jordo2323> etale, I used to run KDE but cant remember and dont have it installed....try #kubuntu  sorry
[23:58] <btoogood> gnutron: yes same here i think i will wait as well, a bit silly really
[23:58] <DreaDy> #ubuntu-es
[23:58] <Linuxnoob100> can someone tell me what is wrong with my /etc/network/interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/81106/ thanks
[23:58] <DreaDy> join#ubuntu-es
[23:58] <etale> jordo2323 ok I'll give it a try, thanks for the effort so far i really appreciate it =)
[23:59] <DreaDy> > join #ubuntu-es
[23:59] <temppy> Linuxnoob100: where is your loopback interface?
[23:59] <Mastastealth> dready, estas tratando de entrar en el canal de Ubuntu-es?
[23:59] <Linuxnoob100> ummmmmm not there whats that?
[23:59] <DreaDy> si si
[23:59] <DreaDy> pero nos e como
[23:59] <ZTS> Hi
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[23:59] <Mastastealth> tienes q escribirlo asi: /join #ubuntu-es