[00:00] <szrhawaii> will alot of my memory be taken up if i do a 50/50 partition or will i still get goo storage space even though
[00:00] <DaSkreech> hArOs: #ubuntu-gr
[00:00] <MinusSeven> thanks
[00:00] <cArliTo34> depends on the size of your drive
[00:00] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: How much space are we talking about?
[00:01] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/internet/C/troubleshooting.html
[00:01] <hArOs> Daskreech
[00:01] <hArOs> hear me?
[00:01] <DaSkreech> hArOs: Yes
[00:01] <hArOs> pm me
[00:01] <DaSkreech> Speak in the #ubuntu-gr chan
[00:02] <szrhawaii> it says i have like 180gb then after i do one i have about 140gb of memory would i be down to 100 if i did the 50/50
[00:02] <stinger^^> hello, i heard that kubuntu 8.10 doesnt read bluetooth devices (bug), is that true ?
[00:03] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: 50/50 is for what/what ?
[00:03] <szrhawaii> like windows/kde
[00:03] <DaSkreech> stinger^^: something to that effect
[00:03] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Oh yes that would be fine for the linux side.
[00:03] <DaSkreech> Windows maybe scanty depending on how you use it
[00:04] <szrhawaii> ok just wonering if it would leave me with less than 100gb left
[00:04] <szrhawaii> is there any other burners out there anyone can recommend besides k3b
[00:05] <DaSkreech> !burn
[00:05] <DaSkreech> ah damn it
[00:06] <stinger^^> DaSkreech: so u dont advise me to download it if i use bluetooth regularly ?
[00:06] <szrhawaii> whats the pastebin address again
[00:06] <DaSkreech> stinger^^: Not as your main machine no
[00:07] <DaSkreech> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:07] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:07] <szrhawaii> thanks
[00:08] <szrhawaii> daskreech can you help me make sense of this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/81109/
[00:08] <stinger^^> oh well, i'd have to wait for 9.04 to be released then
[00:08] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Nope I'm leaving in about -10 minutes
[00:09] <DaSkreech> stinger^^: or install 8.10 on a secondary machine and update to KDE 4.2 as in the topic to test
[00:09] <szrhawaii> man can anyone else help
[00:09] <szrhawaii> then
[00:09] <szrhawaii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81109/
[00:10] <szrhawaii> check out the error and get back to me
[00:10] <DaSkreech> Damn you bot!!!
[00:10] <szrhawaii> !k3b
[00:11] <szrhawaii> !brasero
[00:11] <szrhawaii> man thats not working
[00:11] <DaSkreech> !burn
[00:11] <DaSkreech> When the bot wakes up in like 15 minutes it will talk
[00:11] <szrhawaii> yeah i know
[00:12] <szrhawaii> can you check the last line for me and just see the error and tell me if its something in a hardware or software standpoint
[00:12] <vonkleist> szrhawaii, what 'bout cdrecord ?
[00:12] <szrhawaii> the k3b told me that there was an error in that
[00:12] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Looks like a driver error or a cable error
[00:12] <DaSkreech> I'd check the driver first
[00:13] <DaSkreech> May just be a setting in the burn command
[00:13] <szrhawaii> nt sure how to configure the settings in k3b
[00:13] <szrhawaii> so i used brasero
[00:14] <DaSkreech> There you go
[00:14] <DaSkreech> wodim rocks!!
[00:15] <szrhawaii> how do i use woim
[00:15] <szrhawaii> wodim
[00:21] <came0> hey I just did a rm * and deleted a file I didnt really want to delete... is there an easy undo?
[00:21] <came0> lol
[00:22] <came0> its not a big deal, but if there is a simple roll back or something would be great
[00:23] <cArliTo34> that would be great :(
[00:25] <cArliTo34> anyone aware of any extra config for intel pro/1000 networking? seems to be what i have, and i have a strange dmesg output as well
[00:29] <cArliTo34> cool, found some known issues with my hardware, i guess i should have checked that out first
[00:30] <Mamarok> came0: just don't write anything on your disk
[00:30] <came0> im over it
[00:30] <Mamarok> there should be some undelete packages in the repos
[00:30] <cArliTo34> if you guys need to know mine is using the e1000 driver in the kernel & the issues are known for TX unit hangs
[00:30] <came0> =) it was only a few lines of text
[00:30] <came0> thx though
[00:31] <cArliTo34> these chat logs are probably enough to overwrite the lost file
[00:40]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[00:43] <snikker> with kate, how can i can open a new text file in the existing window (session) of kate?
[00:45] <Adola> Yes!
[00:45] <Adola> Go >File>New
[00:52] <pablin> alguien conoce un windows switcher para kubuntu
[00:54] <Adola> No hablar espanol povafor.
[00:54] <pablin> hi
[00:55] <Adola> Are you asking how to switch Windows to Kubuntu?
[00:55] <astromme> !es | pablin
[00:55] <pablin> ok
[00:59] <cannon> hey guys, installed kubuntu 8.10 just now and can't get any audio
[00:59] <cannon> checked that speakers are not muted, sound up on OS and speakers themselves
[00:59] <snikker>  i've edited the kate menu entry (in K menu), now i got:  "kate -u %U" but when i open a file it say that kdeinit was unable to find /usr/bin/kate. how fix this?
[01:00] <Adola> I'm sorry, I don't know how to help you there.  Not that advanced.
[01:00] <Adola> And cannon
[01:00] <cannon> ?
[01:00] <Adola> Did you make sure alsa mixer's volume isn't muted?
[01:00] <Adola> AND, are you using a dial-up modem?
[01:00] <cannon> whats alsa?
[01:01] <Adola> ALSA
[01:01] <Adola> Google it
[01:01] <Adola> Advanced linux sound...archetect?  I think
[01:01] <Adola> apt get alsamixer
[01:01] <cannon> k
[01:01] <Adola> sudo apt get alsamixer
[01:01] <cuznt> !alsa
[01:02] <cannon> k menu?
[01:02] <Adola> "Start button"
[01:02] <cannon> oh, I thought it was a different one
[01:03] <cannon> i don't see "Enable Sound System" checkbox
[01:04] <Adola> Nieter do I.  That may be outdated.
[01:04] <cannon> yeh
[01:06] <cannon> i think kde 4.1 is a big improvement
[01:08] <Adola> It's nice yes.  I'ts my first taste of KDE.  However, i've heard KDE 4.2 is HORRID
[01:08] <Adola> Because it's so unstable.
[01:08] <ubuntu_> bye
[01:08] <cannon> lol
[01:08] <cannon> it is beta though
[01:09] <cannon> linux on the whole maybe stable ... but not very functional for me at the mo
[01:09] <cannon> a simple installation shouldn't come with things that need fixing
[01:09] <cannon> i wanna use it though
[01:09] <Adola> Such as Audio?
[01:09] <Adola> Or video?
[01:09] <cannon> lol, all kinds of things
[01:10] <Adola> Yeah, I've too had those problems because I'm using an ATI
[01:10] <Adola> And a dial-up modem.
[01:10] <cannon> i've tried other versions in the past and there is always something, lol
[01:10] <Adola> A winmodem...OMG, PROBLEMS WITH ALSA and that.
[01:10] <cannon> 8.04 wouldn't recognise my wifi
[01:10] <Adola> Yeah, did you try nidswrapper?
[01:10] <cannon> nope
[01:10] <cannon> not heard of it
[01:11] <Adola> Yeah, it's used for wifi.
[01:11] <cannon> i am a programmer ... though self tought ... but I still can't seam to get my head around linux, lol
[01:11] <Adola> You should try it if you still have no wifi.
[01:11] <cannon> well, am close enough to the router now to have ethernet so thats no longer an issue
[01:11] <Adola> I'm trying to learn to code.Not actively at the moment.  I'm too self-tougt.  BUT, i'm only 17.  So, I'll just wait for college to teach me!
[01:11] <cannon> heh
[01:11] <cannon> it's fun
[01:12] <cArliTo34> wow, I have a question now - how can I disable or remove or destroy these tooltips in the panel? kde 4.3.1 - everytime I accidentally mouse over the panel/taskbar they pop & stay
[01:12] <cannon> i got into it because I thought the computer systems at work where rubbish
[01:12] <Adola> Tooltips?
[01:13] <cannon> i don't see it in the panel settings
[01:13] <Adola> Niether do i.  I'm sorry, I can't find it.
[01:14] <Adola> Just google : Disable tooltips in Kubuntu
[01:15] <cuznt> i think it is in the settings
[01:15] <pablin> 	
[01:15] <pablin> 8.10 is recommended for a laptop with wifi or not?
[01:16] <Adola> Yes.
[01:16] <cuznt> pablin why wouldnt it be?
[01:16] <pablin> is a question
[01:19] <mot_> any french speakers?
[01:20] <JohnFlux_> !fr
[01:21] <JohnFlux_> mot_: ^^
[01:21] <pablin> !fr | mot_
[01:23] <mot_> what?
[01:23] <mot_> no no
[01:23] <mot_> i just need a french speaker
[01:24] <mot_> to tell me how to say "what are you doing tonight?"
[01:24] <mot_> i'm trying to fuck this french girl
[01:24] <mot_> =\ i know it has nothing to do with kubuntu
[01:28] <Adola> AHAHAHAHHA
[01:28] <Adola> Google : Alstavista babblefish
[01:28] <Adola> Goodluck ;D
[01:29] <mot_> ..
[01:29] <mot_> man i don't want to put it in babelfish
[01:29] <mot_> it's always wrong
[01:29] <mot_> damn
[01:29] <mot_> this girl has mad nice tits
[01:29] <LaserJock> is there a way to change touchpad settings in Intrepid?
[01:29] <mot_> bbl
[01:30] <Adola> I can't help you.
[01:31] <wallabee> I need some help if anyone could tell me .. im relatively new to kubuntu.  Somehow my Kmenu and folder view icons on the bottom left disappeared when i try to add them back in they appear next to the trash can on the bottom right. How can i correct this??
[01:32] <ibuffy> "It seems to work as long as there is no other pulse audio client running. "
[01:32] <ibuffy> how to disable a process from using the pulse audio client?
[01:36] <PSiL0> wallabee: right click panel settings
[01:37] <PSiL0> add launcher widget
[01:37] <PSiL0> move it whereever you feel like on the taskbar
[01:37] <PSiL0> even to the far left
[01:45] <lindows_> gdsfa
[01:45] <lindows_> hi
[01:45] <lindows_> is anyone here?
[01:45] <lindows_> is my first time..
[01:45] <lindows> hello?
[01:45] <lindows> nope
[01:45] <lindows> hi
[01:45] <Adola> I am!
[01:45] <lindows> howdy
[01:45] <lindows> is this place
[01:45] <Adola> Hello.
[01:46] <lindows> ubuntu users/
[01:46] <lindows> ?
[01:46] <lindows> Or just common irc?
[01:46] <Adola> Yes, I may be able to help!
[01:46] <lindows> OK
[01:46] <lindows> thanks
[01:46] <lindows> I have never used an IRC before
[01:46] <lindows> Wow
[01:46] <lindows> so all the people on the right panel are online?
[01:47] <lindows> or registred?
[01:47] <Adola> Well, i've JUSt started using IRC too!  About a week ago!
[01:47] <lindows> :D
[01:47] <lindows> Im using konversation
[01:47] <Adola> Ummm i don't know if EVERYONE is registered.  I just registerd my nick yesterday.
[01:47] <lindows> maybe so
[01:48] <lindows> I'm suprised at myself
[01:48] <Adola> As am I
[02:11] <draik> How can I get DVDs to play on Kaffeine. I keep getting the same error message about not having the rights. I install the libdvdcss2 file (or whatever it's called) and still can't play it.
[02:11] <ibuffy> http://pastebin.ca/1277404
[02:12] <ibuffy> can  someone help meee
[02:12] <Adola> You've installed the restricted extra's?
[02:12] <ibuffy> eh, maybe?...
[02:12] <ibuffy> arecord and audacity can record but skype says it can't detect an audio device to record from
[02:14] <ibuffy> installing the kubuntu-restricted extras package now
[02:20] <ibuffy> yep, that didn't work
[02:20] <ibuffy> 'problem with audio playback' still
[02:20] <draik> Adola: Was that for me?
[02:22] <Adola> Was what for you?
[02:23] <draik> Restricted extras
[02:24] <Adola> Yeah.  I think.
[02:24] <Adola> Google : Kubuntu Restricted extras
[02:24] <Adola> If your the one with the DVD question.
[02:27] <draik> Adola: I do have it installed.
[02:28] <Adola> Oh then...
[02:44] <tuxdistro> .
[02:45] <tuxdistro> .
[02:46] <draik> .
[02:48] <chipbuddy> is there some utility that will let me see hard drive usage (similar to cpu usage). not the amount of space currently used, but actual read/write requests
[02:48] <Guest93576> Yeah, there's a plasma app that will show you.
[02:52] <szrhawaii> anyone home
[02:54] <szrhawaii> #k3b
[02:59] <kkauffman> any word on when the kbluetooth4 fix will release?
[03:15] <Guest3397> is there a way to remove these tooltips in kde 4.3.1? on the panel
[03:18] <szrhawaii> my cd wont eject
[03:18] <szrhawaii> how do i shut down  the process in terminal
[03:18] <Guest3397> eject
[03:18] <Guest3397> it will eject or un-eject
[03:18] <Guest3397> lol
[03:18] <szrhawaii_> no its stuck it wont
[03:18] <Guest3397> right.. in terminal type "eject"
[03:19] <szrhawaii_> i did
[03:19] <szrhawaii_> nothing
[03:19] <szrhawaii_> it said error
[03:19] <Guest3397> interesting
[03:21] <liza> anybody can help me about my kopete?
[03:22] <Guest3397> what is wrong with it?
[03:22] <liza> i cannot logged in
[03:23] <liza> what i mean is when i enter my username its just waiting to logged in even though i already put my password
[03:24] <liza> it still wait to connect
[03:24] <Guest3397> possibly the servers it is trying to connect to are unavailable
[03:24] <liza> but i can go on my emails
[03:25] <draik> liza: Is this for your Yahoo?
[03:25] <liza> yeah draik
[03:26] <draik> I get errors with Kopete when trying to connect with Yahoo about "name lookup has failed"
[03:26] <liza> so its coming from the kopete?
[03:26] <liza> because i try to use other computer and my ym is working
[03:26] <mr---t-> draik: do you have an account with yahoo?
[03:26] <draik> I don't think so. I tried using pidgin and still got issues connecting to Yahoo.
[03:27] <draik> mr---t-: I would hope so ;)
[03:27] <liza> i do have account with yahoo
[03:27] <mr---t-> I had the problem until I registered with them using my account
[03:27] <Guest27468> I have an account with MSN!
[03:27] <draik> mr---t-: What do you mean?
[03:27] <Guest27468> atiradeonman@hotmail.com if anyone wants to add me!
[03:28] <liza> i dont get it mr--t
[03:28] <mr---t-> something I had to do at thier site
[03:28] <mr---t-> lemme see if I can remember
[03:29] <liza> i tried to delete my account from kopete then i tried to put it back still the same
[03:29] <Adola> Kopete?
[03:29] <Adola> I have kopete!
[03:30] <liza> do you have ym to your kopete adola?
[03:30] <Adola> No maa'm
[03:30] <liza> ah ok
[03:30] <Adola> I have MSN
[03:30] <liza> does your MSN work with kopete?
[03:30] <szrhawaii__> I had that problem with both pidgin and kopete
[03:30] <szrhawaii__> msn always works with kopete
[03:31] <Adola> Yes !
[03:31] <szrhawaii__> the only one that has the problems is yahoo
[03:32] <szrhawaii__> sometimes if you log in to your email it conflicts with your im for kopete make sure you turn that mail/im feature off in your email account
[03:32] <mr---t-> I believe I had to go into yahoo messanger from my yahoo page and set up something
[03:32] <szrhawaii__> yeah but that new version logs you into your im and mail account at the same time when you log in to your email
[03:32] <szrhawaii__> or even just to log on to yahoo
[03:32] <liza> well i tried my MSN and it works only the yahoo
[03:33] <szrhawaii__> go turn your im off in your email account
[03:33] <szrhawaii__> so it doesnt automatically come on
[03:34] <mr---t-> I'm using yahoo classic
[03:34] <liza> then?
[03:34] <liza> mee too im using yahoo classic
[03:35] <mr---t-> now I have an added icon in my kopete that allows me to jump to yahoo in several different ways
[03:35] <liza> so ym works mr--t?
[03:35] <mr---t-> had to also put my yahoo info into kopete of course
[03:36] <draik> szrhawaii__: How do you turn off the IM from the email account?
[03:36] <liza> well it happen that i have problem with kopete just now
[03:37] <liza> earlier my yahoo is fine
[03:37] <szrhawaii__> when you log in to your email account the little smiley face icon just put offline
[03:37] <szrhawaii__> it usually takes effect
[03:37] <liza> yeah but the smiley icon keep on jumping and it says connecting
[03:38] <draik> szrhawaii__: Ummm... what smiley? I don't have one when I log into my mail at mail.yahoo.com
[03:39] <szrhawaii__> here you guys need to go to account settings then to
[03:40] <szrhawaii__> manage account links
[03:40] <liza> the smiley icon is the one in the bottom of the kopete and if the smiley icon lighted it means your already online
[03:40] <szrhawaii__> not on kopete on your email account
[03:40] <szrhawaii__> do you have classic draik
[03:41] <draik> Yes szrhawaii__
[03:41] <liza> then?
[03:41] <szrhawaii__> thats probably why its not there but just try your account settings under manage links
[03:42] <draik> Account settings? Manage links? Where do you see this in the Mail Options of Yahoo Mail?
[03:43] <liza> szrhawii: do you mean is the beta yahoo?
[03:43] <szrhawaii__> on mine you highlight the name
[03:43] <szrhawaii__> but you can go in mail options
[03:43] <draik> I am in my Yahoo email inbox
[03:43] <draik> I click on Options in the top right corner
[03:44] <draik> I am looking at my Mail Options
[03:44] <liza> me too
[03:44] <szrhawaii__> mail options > account information >
[03:44] <szrhawaii__> password>
[03:45] <draik> Ok
[03:45] <szrhawaii__> on right hand side on bottom of page under partner accounts > manage links
[03:45] <liza> ok
[03:46] <szrhawaii__> do you see it now
[03:46] <liza> whats next?
[03:46] <draik> I don't have that
[03:46] <szrhawaii__> if you deactivate it then it shouldnt cause a conflict
[03:46] <szrhawaii__> hold on draik i gotta switch back to classic for you
[03:46] <draik> Ok
[03:47] <liza> so which one need to deactivate?
[03:48] <liza> theres 2 here:yahoo!sushi application and the other one is Y:messenger Authentication
[03:48] <szrhawaii__> both of them
[03:48] <szrhawaii__> one keeps you logged in persistantly
[03:49] <szrhawaii__> and the other is a authenticater
[03:49] <szrhawaii__> so you have to have authentic messenger stuff
[03:49] <szrhawaii__> but you dont so you dont need it
[03:49] <szrhawaii__> ok draik you have classic mode right
[03:49] <draik> szrhawaii__: Yes
[03:49] <mr---t-> it might be this http://www.ymailblog.com/blog/2008/12/attention-maintenance-work-you-may-experience-service-problems/
[03:50] <szrhawaii__> you dont know how to get into your account settings
[03:50] <liza> so whats the use of this?how can i use the kopete?
[03:50] <draik> I am in my account settings
[03:50] <szrhawaii__> after you do that remove then reboot the messenger and add the yahoo account again
[03:50] <carlito34> wow these tooltips are unbearable - anyone have a fix to remove them?
[03:50] <szrhawaii__> and see if it works
[03:51] <draik> szrhawaii__: I am in Mail Options. Where do you need me to go from here.
[03:52] <liza> i was on the main page of yahoo szrhawaii
[03:53] <mr---t-> according to the link I posted yahoo is experiencing problems with some areas including chat
[03:54] <liza> but mr--t- i try to logged in to other computer which is not kopete and it works
[03:54] <mr---t-> k just a thought
[03:54] <draik> mr---t-: That's today, but what about the past months?
[03:56] <Guest73839> this is what I did...sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.....All downloaded and installed fine..  Then, logged out. Selected kde.desktop from sessions menu and tried to log in.  KDE Not installing This is what I get..   X session: unable to launch "/usr/bin/startkde" x session--- "/usr/bin/startkde not found falling back to default session...  Can someone help me sort this out??
[03:56] <Guest73839>  ubuntu 8.10
[03:57] <Guest73839> this is what I did...sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.....All downloaded and installed fine..  Then, logged out. Selected kde.desktop from sessions menu and tried to log in.  KDE Not installing This is what I get..   X session: unable to launch "/usr/bin/startkde" x session--- "/usr/bin/startkde not found falling back to default session...  Can someone help me sort this out??
[03:57] <Guest73839>  ubuntu 8.10
[03:57] <liza> well i guess its from yahoo
[03:57] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  can i set up thunderbird to show email notice in firefox?
[03:57] <NeoMIRV> There really needs to be an easier way to make udev rules, I've been trying for 2 hours to get this mouse rule to work..
[03:57] <liza> it says their under maintenance
[03:58] <szrhawaii_> yahoo is alwasy under maintenance
[03:58] <szrhawaii_> i just never use there stuff
[03:58] <szrhawaii_> have everyone you know switch to msn
[03:58] <Guest73839> Ive been tring to get an answer for over 2hrs to my kde issue     can someone help me figure this out......
[03:58] <Guest73839> this is what I did...sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.....All downloaded and installed fine..  Then, logged out. Selected kde.desktop from sessions menu and tried to log in.  KDE Not installing This is what I get..   X session: unable to launch "/usr/bin/startkde" x session--- "/usr/bin/startkde not found falling back to default session...  Can someone help me sort this out??
[03:58] <Guest73839>  ubuntu 8.10
[03:58] <liza> thanks for sharing and help me
[03:59] <liza> well cant change to MSN my friends using yahoo
[03:59] <szrhawaii_> yeah no problem
[03:59] <szrhawaii_> tell them to
[03:59] <liza> ill try to check tomorrow
[03:59] <szrhawaii_> its not like it costs money
[03:59] <binMonkey> Guest73839: did you install kde4?
[03:59] <szrhawaii_> to have a email account
[03:59] <szrhawaii_> ubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:59] <liza> yeah i will
[04:00] <szrhawaii_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[04:00] <liza> thanks
[04:00] <draik> szrhawaii_: I have issues with MSN/Hotmail on Kopete. It tends to lag. When I'm about to message someone that is logged off (but appearing online), MSN/Hotmail logs me off. When I login again, it gives me an actual contact list of who is really online.
[04:00] <Guest73839> no....  what is the terminal command please??
[04:00] <binMonkey> Guest73839: aptitude install kde4.
[04:00] <bazhang> 8.10 is kde4
[04:01] <Guest73839> I thought the latest version 8.10 had kde4 already????
[04:01] <binMonkey> bazhang: i think he installed kubuntu over ubuntu.
[04:01] <xenoterracide_> how do I set the login manager
[04:01] <bazhang> binMonkey, he is using intrepid
[04:01] <szrhawaii_> so your list isnt refreshing properly or something
[04:01] <bazhang> binMonkey, therefore it will install kde4
[04:01] <binMonkey> oh. sorry.   i missed that part.
[04:02] <szrhawaii_> i use pidgin mostly now days
[04:02] <bazhang> Guest73839, please paste.ubuntu.com your sources.list
[04:02] <Guest73839> not sure how to do that..Im new to ubuntu
[04:02] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list --->paste.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <bazhang> then give us the url
[04:03] <szrhawaii_> try pidgin draik
[04:03] <draik> szrhawaii_: I would use pidgin, but it's the same issue with Yahoo either way.
[04:03] <szrhawaii_> yeah yahoo is yahoo though
[04:03] <draik> Besides, I can do without MSN/Hotmail. Nobody is really on that.
[04:03] <binMonkey> Guest73839: did you install ubuntu8.10 first?
[04:04] <szrhawaii_> i usually tell people to switch over
[04:04] <szrhawaii_> it works
[04:04] <szrhawaii_> just gotta say something to them
[04:04] <timbba> I tried kde 4.2 beta packages from PPA repository. Now I can't login. .xession-errors gives as last line "kwin(7123): Couldn't start knotify from knotify4.desktop:  "KDEInit could not
[04:04] <timbba> launch '/usr/bin/knotify4'.". Failsafe gives that I don't have x-terminal-emulator, so I'm stucked. Any idea?.
[04:04] <Guest73839> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81186/
[04:04] <Guest73839> THAT was cool...first timer
[04:04] <szrhawaii_> i have all mine on there i got 2 gmail accounts 1 aim 1 yahoo 2 msn and 2 myspace accounts on pidgin and it works good
[04:04] <Guest73839> \have a look
[04:05] <Guest73839> although I have no clue what you r looking for
[04:05] <bazhang> Guest73839, could you do the first two steps of !puregnome
[04:05] <szrhawaii_> edit the last line guest73839 erase it
[04:05] <sevenseeker> does anyone have a link to the 8.10 kubuntu release notes, I can't seem to find it on the kubuntu page now :(
[04:06] <szrhawaii_> you need to erase this harry@harry-desktop:~$
[04:06] <bazhang> szrhawaii_, why does he need to erase that? that is not in his sources.list
[04:06] <Guest73839> ok,,,  how do i do that?
[04:07] <bazhang> !puregnome | Guest73839 try the first two steps
[04:07] <szrhawaii_> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download sevenseeker
[04:07] <draik> szrhawaii_: So I guess there is no going around the whole "1 - name lookup has failed" error?
[04:07] <bazhang> Guest73839, no need to erase that, its not in your sources.list
[04:08] <bazhang> Guest73839, the first two steps (not the third installing ubuntu-desktop)
[04:08] <Guest73839> ok...Now Im confused... How do I get kde when your telling me I already have it
[04:08] <Guest73839> y would I uninstall it
[04:09] <sevenseeker> szrhawaii_: this does look familiar, but I don't see a link to the release notes, I am looking for the tickets to some of the gotchas (like no bluetooth)
[04:09] <bazhang> Guest73839, you said you installed it already.
[04:09] <bazhang> Guest73839, if it is installed then there is a problem that needs fixing.
[04:09] <Guest73839> ubottu told me to uninstall it
[04:10] <szrhawaii_> not sure sevenseeker
 this is what I did...sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <timbba> nobody? I don't know what to do..
[04:10] <Guest73839> yes, i did that
[04:10] <bazhang> Guest73839, now I am asking you to reinstall.
[04:10] <bazhang> Guest73839, so follow those first two steps the bot gave you
[04:10] <Guest73839> it downloaded and installed fine... then i restarted and tried to log in kde session
[04:10] <Guest73839> ok, so uninstall then reinstall?
[04:11] <bazhang> Guest73839, if it does not login then it is not 'fine'
[04:11] <szrhawaii_> so you downloaded it and it worked but you cant get in huh
[04:11] <Guest73839> well then it looked like it lied.. :)
[04:11] <bazhang> never worked
[04:11] <szrhawaii_> and was that on the pastebin your source list
[04:11] <Guest73839> step one said it was not installed
[04:12] <bazhang> then try again
[04:12] <szrhawaii> yeah keep trying
[04:12] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop <--paste the output of that
[04:12] <szrhawaii> are you just trying to get the new session
[04:12] <bazhang> to paste.ubuntu.com
[04:12] <Guest73839> uninstalling step 2
[04:12] <bazhang> good
[04:13] <bazhang> then do the reinstall.
[04:13] <carlito34> has anyone removed the tooltips/popups in the kde panel? 4.3.1
[04:13] <bazhang> and paste the output if there are any errors
[04:13] <Guest73839> ubuntu desktop?
[04:14] <Guest73839> or install kubunto deskltop
[04:14] <szrhawaii> bazhang is he just trying to get the session thing where when you log in you get the new session
[04:14] <xenoterracide_> well dist-upgrade broke stuff
[04:14] <szrhawaii> its kubuntu-desktop not kubunto
[04:15] <szrhawaii> deskltop
[04:15] <szrhawaii> if your manager doesnt recongnize the kubuntu-desktop you will have to add a third party ppa
[04:16] <Guest73839> This pastebin stuff is cool.. Here it is
[04:16] <Guest73839> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81191/
[04:16] <szrhawaii> you gotta pick one
[04:16] <Guest73839> I got it! thanks a bunch
[04:17] <Guest73839> unpacking
[04:17] <szrhawaii> it should work after that
[04:17] <szrhawaii> i did that before
[04:17] <Guest73839> the paste bin ROCKS! that is such a cool tool
[04:17] <szrhawaii> but it was freezing up one of my desktops so i took it off
[04:17] <Guest73839> especially for us newbie loosers
[04:18] <szrhawaii> ##windows
[04:18] <bazhang> Guest73839, you may want to install pastebinit if you like that.
[04:18] <bazhang> then you can cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit and it will give you a url in the terminal (no need for browser)
[04:18] <Guest73839> apt-get pastebinit???
[04:18] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:18] <Guest73839> thx
[04:18] <bazhang> np
[04:19] <Guest73839> going to try the loggin to kde:)
[04:20] <timbba> is there someone who knows what to do if you can't login with new kde 4.2 beta?
[04:24] <Tinason> hi!
[04:25] <Tinason> im using kubuntu 8.10, and want to know if its possible to have document tabs at the top of kate?
[04:25] <redes> Hi, spanish channel?
[04:25] <bazhang> !es
[04:28] <maco> hi, i just installed the kubuntu-desktop package in 8.10, and when i try to start a KDE session, it shows an open file browser and a note plasma. but anything i try to click, it doesn't register.  i cant move the file browser, and the KMenu won't open.
[04:29] <Tinason> when you move your mouse over the notes plasmoid, do you see a black bar to the left or right of the notes?
[04:29] <maco> no
[04:29] <maco> there was a black bar to the right of the file browser one
[04:30] <timbba> ok, i'm going to give up and uninstall kubuntu
[04:30] <Tinason> what happens when you click on the icons on the black bar?
[04:30] <maco> nothing
[04:31] <maco> im in gnome right now because nothing i click in kde responds
[04:31] <Tinason> im not sure whats wrong then
[04:31] <maco> :(
[04:32] <Tinason> it sounds like it didnt install right
[04:32] <maco> i dont have any broken packages
[04:41] <ubuntu_> hello all,
[04:46] <Guest12911> There is no available decoder in amarok,  how so I add one so I can listen to internet radio?
[04:50] <Guest12911> error loading media There is no available decoder how can I overcome this
[04:50] <maco> itd probably depend on what type of stream you want
[04:50] <Guest12911> internet
[04:50] <maco> er...that's not a valid response
[04:50] <maco> youd have to know if its wma, mp3, etc.
[04:50] <Guest12911> oh...
[04:50] <maco> or real audio...
[04:51] <maco> i'm guessing you dont have the codec for whatever filetype they're using
[04:51] <Guest12911> Im using amarok and click on the radio streams and thats the error mess i get
[04:51] <Guest12911> good guess
[04:51] <Guest12911> how do I get it
[04:51] <maco> but i dont know the names of the packages for different codecs in kde. i just installed kde today to try to use alongside gnome, but it doesn't do anything at all
[04:52] <josafat> Hey
[04:52] <Guest12911> hhuummm, so I guess I cant use the amarok radio player/
[05:00] <binMonkey> Guest12911: i think you have to add kubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[05:06] <thriell> Is there a way to get the "Hufo's Tunnel" screensaver from Ubuntu to run on Kubuntu?
[05:23] <erov> anyone else not able to resize windows in kde4/8.10 ? :/
[05:35] <maco> erov: if youre using compiz, you need to enable the resize feature in compiz
[05:36] <erov> how do i go about that
[05:37] <maco> erov: using ccsm. i dont think its installed by default. sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:37] <erov> k
[05:52] <auron> hi
[05:53] <auron> can someone tell me how to get to postgis
[05:53] <auron> channel
[06:13] <szrhawaii> is there any way to convert certain apple files so i can view the contents on kde
[06:17] <freaky_t> kde4.2 looks really nice :D
[06:46] <surgy> anyone know whats up with pidgeon?
[06:47] <dr_willis> I hear Yahoo Mya of broken their stuff again
[06:47] <surgy> or is just mine that wont connect?
[06:47] <surgy> any way i can get info on how long it will be?
[06:47] <dr_willis> No idea.
[06:47] <VistaUser> hi dr_willis
[06:47] <dr_willis> I dont  Use Yahoo at all.
[06:48] <surgy> i do, never had this problem
[06:48] <surgy> and aim sucks
[06:48] <dr_willis> I think Most of the IM clients Suck in one way or another.
[06:48] <VistaUser> dr_willis what do u do in linux
[06:48] <dr_willis> I goof off mainly. :)
[06:48] <VistaUser> lol like what kind haha
[06:49] <timbba> I will try to ask again. Anyone knows what to do, if KDE 4.2 beta packages won't work?
[06:49] <VistaUser> cause well it kinda gets borung doesnt it?
[06:49] <VistaUser> u dont lol it aint stable
[06:50] <ScottTheiGuy> Can anyone suggest a good text to speech program? I want to start using Kubuntu and this seems to be the last major hurtle.
[06:50] <dr_willis> festival is the onlyu one i know of under linux ScottTheiGuy
[06:50] <dr_willis> !info festival
[06:50] <VistaUser> what do u use a speech program for?
[06:50] <dr_willis>  good text to speech program
[06:51] <dr_willis> it speaks text :)
[06:51] <VistaUser> is that the kind that u speak and it tyes?
[06:51] <dr_willis> No that would be a Speech to text...
[06:51] <timbba> nobody?
[06:51] <VistaUser> is there one of them?
[06:51] <VistaUser> for free?
[06:51] <dr_willis> Proberly is. but i imagine its  not perfect..
[06:51] <VistaUser> true
[06:51] <dr_willis> even the oens ive tried under windows and seen big $$$ on.. dont work veryw ell
[06:51] <ScottTheiGuy> ok thanks dr_willis
[06:52] <dr_willis> Vista has a few neat speech features.. but they are mainly gimmics for what most people use.
[06:52] <VistaUser> dang if i got a good one i would type big reports
[06:52] <dr_willis> I doubt if you could stand to use them for a big report
[06:52] <VistaUser> true lol
[06:52] <VistaUser> i am bored once again
[06:52] <ScottTheiGuy> I use TextAloud for windows with NeoSpeech's Paul voice it is pretty good.
[06:53] <VistaUser> kk ill try
[07:23] <macjason607> guys i have a question .. how do i remove the task manager from my pane l.. i want to add applications there
[07:24] <macjason607> any ideas ?
[07:25] <macjason607> i want to put the task manager somewhere else
[07:28] <macjason607> actually
[07:29] <macjason607> i want to add the seperator so i can put apps on one side of the panel
[07:29] <macjason607> any ideas ?
[07:34] <macjason607> wow
[07:34] <macjason607> nobody away
[07:34] <macjason607> awake
[07:39] <thomas> hi
[07:40] <thomas> tuss
[08:02] <janorcutt> sup ppl
[08:10] <FicaBlok38> Can somebody help me
[08:11] <FicaBlok38> i have this problem
[08:11] <FicaBlok38> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81255/
[08:12] <AliTarihi> will KDE 4.2 b2 be in the experimental repo?
[08:13] <carlito34> Hello, does anyone know how to remove the tooltip/popups from the panel in kde 4.3.1? Even if it involved recompiling from scratch, i`m down with that.
[08:14] <FicaBlok38> i want to upgrade kde 4.1.3. to 4.2 b1
[08:14] <carlito34> is it worth it?
[08:15] <FicaBlok38> and i cant do it
[08:15] <FicaBlok38> i added : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[08:16] <FicaBlok38> and that didnt work
[08:17] <RandyCalifornia> pamela?
[08:17] <carlito34> lol
[08:17] <RandyCalifornia> espanol?
[08:18] <maco> RandyCalifornia: #kubuntu-es
[08:19] <pamela> RandyCalifornia nao senor not who u think
[08:19] <RandyCalifornia> ok
[08:19] <RandyCalifornia> no no
[08:19] <RandyCalifornia> I was just asking if someone
[08:20] <RandyCalifornia> speaks spanish
[08:20] <maco> oh
[08:20] <RandyCalifornia> anyways,
[08:22] <carlito34> yeah these tooltips have to go - i cant take it anymore
[08:22] <carlito34> lol
[08:28] <RandyCalifornia> >?
[08:30] <carlito34> :(
[08:32] <maco> anyone have any idea why kde4 won't let me click on anything at all?
[08:32] <carlito34> i have that every now and then too
[08:32] <carlito34> sucks
[08:33] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[08:33] <RandyCalifornia> sucks....
[08:33] <maco> carlito34: i have it all 3 times ive tried logging into kde so far
[08:34] <carlito34> mine usually happens upon resume after leaving for a couple of hours
[08:34] <carlito34> does your mouse pointer move but not click?
[08:36] <maco> yes
[08:36] <carlito34> i would think it would be a driver issue with the mouse buttons, but that is probably unrealistic
[08:37] <maco> carlito34: works fine in gnome
[08:37] <carlito34> i see
[08:37] <RandyCalifornia> eeeee
[08:38] <amerigo> hello guys....
[08:39] <carlito34> hello, there is virtually noone here
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> well, that's because the majority of people like me are drunk at this time of the day
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> ehllo americo
[08:40] <RandyCalifornia> sorry amerigo
[08:41] <RandyCalifornia> u know, 'cause is friday...........
[08:41] <carlito34> ah thats why
[08:41] <carlito34> didnt realize
[08:41] <amerigo> A strange thing on Hardy 8.10 .... I configure ethernet card on dhpc for a cabled LAN on which gateway is 192.168.0.1... but when i reboot sistem IP address is 169.254.5.22 (I dunno what is) and gateway is 0.0.0.0
[08:41] <carlito34> i`m trying to work and these tooltips are driving me mad
[08:41] <amerigo> each time
[08:41] <amerigo> RandyCalifornia: Hi... buddy
[08:41] <carlito34> the config isnt right :( - that 169.x ip is created by the NIC
[08:42] <carlito34> have you tried running dhclient in the terminal?
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> I've been looking for a program that looks like Windows Movie Maker
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> for kubuntu
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> Hey amerigo,
[08:42] <amerigo> no in a terminal no
[08:42] <RandyCalifornia> how do you change the color of the letters to red////??
[08:43] <amerigo> i use System setting >>> Lan Setting
[08:43] <carlito34> i see
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> I already tried Kino
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> it did not work
[08:43] <amerigo> or KNetworkManager
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> I looked for kdnlive
[08:43] <RandyCalifornia> adept could not find it
[08:43] <carlito34> i removed that myself, and  have been using some other things because of trouble
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> ?
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> hump
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> i meant bump
[08:44] <carlito34> Randy: I havent tried any graphical programs for editing videos
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> not videos
[08:44] <carlito34> Just mencoder & ffmpeg, both work wonders.
[08:44] <RandyCalifornia> like,
[08:45] <amerigo> carlito34: from terminal what is the file for configuratio
[08:45] <amerigo> ?
[08:45] <carlito34> oh, just type it in like:
[08:45] <carlito34> sudo dhclient
[08:45] <carlito34> and hit enter
[08:46] <carlito34> i wish i could tell you what i did when i ditched knetworkmanager, but its been a while now
[08:49] <amerigo_> carlito34: i got this http://pastebin.com/m16c52d6b
[08:50] <RandyKalifornia> I'm back
[08:50] <amerigo_> me too... server disconnection
[08:50] <RandyKalifornia> u have to change name too right :S
[08:51] <amerigo_> i don't know why
[08:51] <RandyKalifornia> me neither.....
[08:51] <amerigo_> i'm a dancer ip
[08:52] <RandyKalifornia> lol'
[08:52] <RandyKalifornia> I'm a proxy user..........
[08:52] <amerigo_> carlito34: well come back
[08:52] <carlito34> thanks
[08:52] <RandyKalifornia> what happened carlito?
[08:52] <carlito34> my dsl is like that.. i`ve been working it out
[08:52] <carlito34> major issue with drivers for my onboard nic
[08:52] <carlito34> e1000 driver
[08:53] <amerigo_> carlito34:  this is what i got http://pastebin.com/m16c52d6b
[08:53] <carlito34> nice, has it been useful?
[08:53] <carlito34> ooh i see now, sorry
[08:54] <carlito34> So looks like you are online now?
[08:54] <RandyKalifornia> :D
[08:54] <amerigo_> it is strange because 192.168.0.246 is no an address of my lan
[08:54] <carlito34> Its assigned by your router
[08:54] <amerigo_> but it is not present
[08:55] <sancho21_> I'm afraid to migrate to Kubuntu 8.10 from 8.04. Is it more memory consuming?
[08:55] <carlito34> oh i see, strange - which device is this?
[08:55] <carlito34> eth0 or something wireless?
[08:55] <amerigo_> eth0
[08:55] <erov> yes it is sancho
[08:55] <amerigo_> i'm going to check my PC
[08:55] <coky> hi all
[08:55] <carlito34> have you tried pinging the gateway? 192.168.0.1 and then try pinging an external IP or server such as google.com
[08:55] <coky>  iam noob and need help on dragon player
[08:56] <coky> my dragon player cannot disaply srt subtitle
[08:57] <amerigo_> carlito34: it result to be the IP of this PC ...
[08:57] <amerigo_> it result on gateway pc
[08:57] <amerigo_> but
[08:57] <carlito34> I see, you are trying to connect one pc to another for shared internet?
[08:57] <amerigo_> on KNetworkManager I got 192.168.0.229
[08:58] <amerigo_> it is the standard situation
[08:59] <amerigo_> there'is something that say that this PC is 229 but terminal say that this PC is 246
[08:59] <carlito34> thats very strange
[09:04] <amerigo_> still here?
[09:04] <carlito34> yes, but unsure what else to try
[09:05] <amerigo_> i thinking that connection fail down again
[09:05] <coky> hi all
[09:05] <amerigo_> hi
[09:06] <coky> does any1 use dragon player?
[09:06] <amerigo_> i don't remember well ... but i know that there a file for network config
[09:07] <coky> mine cant display srt subtitle
[09:07] <amerigo_> coky: i don't use ..
[09:07] <amerigo_> coky: sorry
[09:08] <coky> what do u use ?
[09:11] <carlito34> vlc media player for me
[09:13] <carlito34> i`m going to give kde 4.2 a shot
[09:13] <timbba> how to revert back to kde 4.1.3, because kde won't even start using 4.2 beta
[09:13] <carlito34> there should be an option @ boot right?
[09:14] <carlito34> http://hehe2.net/linux-general/try-kde-42-now-in-ubuntu/
[09:15] <timbba> yeah, with neon packages but kubuntu's own recommendation uses different packages that replaces existing
[09:15] <carlito34> i see, i`d rather not replace anything til its official
[09:15] <timbba> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[09:15] <carlito34> but maybe you can do an apt-get remove kde-nightly
[09:16] <timbba> it's not nightly.. it replaces all kde related so that's exacly same named packages
[09:16] <carlito34> ah - ouch
[09:17] <timbba> I was just wondering, is there a way to remove all packages from particular repository? how to do that?
[09:18] <timbba> or is there any chance to get kde 4.2 working? :)
[09:18] <carlito34> how does it not work? not compatible with your graphics hardware?
[09:19] <timbba> kdm starts and when you enter your login credentials, X11 sigterm 11 and black screen... Failsafe complains that I don't have x-terminal-emulator
[09:20] <timbba> .xsession-editor prints that kdeinit cannot be started from /usr/bin/knotify4
[09:20] <timbba> .xsession-errors of course not editor :)
[09:25] <carlito34> anyone on the annoying tooltips in kde taskbar?
[09:25] <keymone> hello, can anybody explain this behavior: i have selected optimization level 3 for apt-build but i still notice that sources are being built with O2
[09:28] <carlito34> desktop cube with compiz is great
[09:28] <carlito34> kinda useless but nifty anyway
[09:28] <JohnFlux> carlito34: if you're using compiz with kde4, you're doing it all wrong :)
[09:29] <carlito34> lol, i am
[09:29] <VistaUser> hey
[09:29] <carlito34> but i`m new to desktop linux anyway, spent too much time with freebsd & window managers that were far behind
[09:30] <carlito34> What do you suggest I do different than kde4/compiz?
[09:38] <carlito34> possible to install kde 3.5.x on kubuntu 8.1? i really hate this taskbar in 4.1.3
[10:02] <thomas> hi
[10:02] <thomas> wie geht euch
[10:02] <ubunturos> !gm
[10:03] <thomas> bitte deucht
[10:03] <ubunturos> !german | thomas, (if that's german) (or dutch)
[10:03] <thomas> ja bitte
[10:03] <ubunturos> thomas: If that was thank you in Dutch, You are welcome. I can't speak dutch
[10:04] <thomas> ich nein pc er geht nicht von der mama
[10:04] <thomas> was kann ich machen
[10:05] <PodeCoet> test
[10:06] <thomas> wie test es start nur
[10:06] <bazhang> thomas, english here
[10:06] <maco> spreuche nein deutsch....
[10:06] <PodeCoet> hooray I'm on IRC, damn macs :P
[10:06] <bazhang> he knows this.
[10:07] <PodeCoet> major issue with Kubuntu - I have a new LCD TV that I've plugged my box into, i've boot up as normal
[10:07] <thomas> was kann ich macht das es geht
[10:07] <PodeCoet> but I'm presented with MASSIVE fonts
[10:07] <thomas> von mama pc
[10:07] <bazhang> !de | thomas
[10:07] <PodeCoet> like 100px or more
[10:07] <kieran_> hi
[10:07] <PodeCoet> makes it impossible to run any control panel applets to fix the issue
[10:07] <PodeCoet> any ideas?
[10:07] <thomas> hi
[10:07] <kieran_> there alot of people here
[10:08] <PodeCoet> the resolution is detected correctly at 1680x1050
[10:08] <maco> maybe increase the fonts' dpi?
[10:09] <PodeCoet> i'm unable to get to the "apply" button in the fonts control panel
[10:09] <PodeCoet> (thats how big everything is!)
[10:09] <PodeCoet> any way I can do it from the console?
[10:09] <maco> are you able to alt+click/drag to shove the top of the window off the screen to reach apply?
[10:09] <PodeCoet> I can alt+click/drag, but the window wont move off the screen
[10:10] <PodeCoet> I managed to tab my way through, but the font size was unaffected
[10:10] <thomas> und wie von windows
[10:10] <PodeCoet> would dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg give me something useful temporarily?
[10:10] <maco> no
[10:10] <maco> that hasnt done anything for 3 releases
[10:11] <bazhang> thomas, you need to speak english here. if you cant try google translate or go to #kubuntu-de
[10:12] <PodeCoet> damn, so theres nothing I can do? I can boot back into windows and everything works perfectly
[10:12] <PodeCoet> but linux is what I use for everything normally
[10:14] <maco> PodeCoet: which did you change?
[10:14] <maco> i cant load kde at the moment, but if changing the dpi doesnt work, maybe changing the default font size?
[10:15] <maco> PodeCoet: and maybe the fact that Apply is alt+A will help...
[10:28] <gimpgnu> hi, im need a kubuntu
[10:29] <snikker> i've got this error: KDEInit could not launch «/usr/bin/kate»
[10:29] <gimpgnu> is for the vga
[10:52] <tkstka> hmm cant seem to open rars with ark
[10:52] <tkstka> what do I do
[10:54] <pequatre> hullo
[10:56] <pequatre> i'm using kde4 beta2 in kubuntu 8.10 and i'd like to know if it's possiblr to mount a partition automatically (fat32) using some gui tool in kde ?
[10:56] <pequatre> because i'd like to avoid looking for the fstab options...
[11:00] <jussi01> !info unrar | tkstka
[11:01] <tkstka> :o
[11:01] <tkstka> nonfree
[11:01] <jussi01> I think there was a freeone, but cant remember it
[11:01] <jussi01> !find rar
[11:01] <jussi01> !find unrar
[11:02] <jussi01> there we are
[11:02] <jussi01> !info unrar-free | tkstka
[11:03] <sukcezz> Hi ! I want install gnome for kubuntu and i  can't why ? I have  repositories of  Hardy Heron. My system  tell me : You  don't have gnome or ubuntu-desktop package
[11:03] <jussi01> sukcezz: came again? what did you try todo exactly?
[11:04] <sukcezz> I install kubuntu and i can't  install gnome at  system
[11:05] <tkstka> how do I make all video files run strate from vlv
[11:05] <sukcezz> ok
[11:05] <tkstka> vlc
[11:05] <sukcezz> thanks
[11:05] <sukcezz> cya
[11:05] <tkstka> and not some other program
[11:06] <DarkWizzard> hello
[11:06] <DarkWizzard> I have a pppoe connection set up
[11:06] <DarkWizzard> and it says that it's connected
[11:06] <DarkWizzard> but when I do ping google.com I get unknown host
[11:06] <jussi01> tkstka: right click the file, properties, the spanner, then move vlc to the top
[11:07] <maple_> Hej! I'd like to find out which packages I installed manually (marked "m" in aptitude). Is there a way to list just those?
[11:08] <giuseppe_> Hi all, can you help me about nautilus? when I open a folder I spend a lot of time to do it
[11:09] <giuseppe_> Hi all, can you help me about nautilus? when I open a folder I spend a lot of time to do it
[11:10] <maple_> ^ solved, sorry for bothering you
[11:12] <argelast> fuck
[11:12] <argelast> this is asom
[11:12] <jpds> !ohmy | argelast
[11:23] <james14> Can someone help me with a USB connected printer in Intrepid?
[11:28] <jussi01> !elaborate | james14:
[11:30] <m0ll0i> ciao
[11:30] <bluestyle> hello to all
[11:30] <bluestyle> which web player is good stream audio/video to download?
[11:31] <jussi01> !it | m0ll0i
[11:33] <craigrd> Hi - I have Kubuntu 8.10 installed, running on a Nvidia Geforce 8600GT with two displays - I've configured Twinview and can place windows on the second screen but none of the desktop environment or backdrop enxtends to the second monitor
[11:33] <craigrd> Its just a black space I can move windows too, any ideas?
[11:36] <gimpgnu> windows vista is very fast
[11:37] <jussi01> craigrd: I find that once you write the settings to x, then restart x, you ge t a background like you should there
[11:39] <craigrd> jussi01: I get an extended backdrop on the login screen, but not when I login - rightclick...etc on the second backdrop does nothing too, its just dead space but I can move windows to it
[11:39] <Thor> guys, what player to use for playing flv files?
[11:40] <bluestyle> which web player is good stream audio/video to download?
[11:48] <thomas> hi
[11:49] <robyy> xxx
[11:50] <thomas> was ist
[12:05] <freaky_t> hm, teamspeak doesnt work with my kubuntu :(
[12:07] <mooperd> Hi guys, I have kubunto on my macbook but I cannot seem to connect to a wireless network
[12:14] <asraniel> hi there. somebody knows where i can get a good list with custom repositories? i'm searching for qt 4.4.1 or newer for kubuntu 7.04
[12:26] <bluestyle> hello to all how i put norrows in the bar below to hide it left or right?
[12:26] <bluestyle> kde4
[12:26] <Kozeris> 7890-[]\
[12:27] <bluestyle> hello to all how i put norrows in the bar below to hide it left or right?
[12:34] <marek_> hi how can i try amarok2?
[12:34] <marek_> what is the package name?
[12:37] <bluestyle> how i hide bottom bar to the left or right?
[12:50] <_gunni_> kde4 crashes xserver most times i try to change some of my settings for desktop or plasmoids. Mostly when clicking on a select box. I have this on nvidia with kde 4.1 and 4.2beta, with ubuntu nvidia packages and nvidia 180.11 beta driver. Known bug? nvidia bug or kde bug? Any ideas?
[12:52] <_gunni_> Other bug: After updating to 4.2beta i got the bottom half of my first monitor on the top of my second monitor, and sometimes the top of my second on my first (only for desktop, not for windows). Anything known about this?
[13:02] <bluestyle> how i hide bottom bar to the left or right?
[13:07] <Cannon> hey guys, is there a channel for Open Office?
[13:14] <noaXess> where are all the gwenview plugins in kde4?
[13:16] <noaXess> !info gwenview
[13:18] <kaniteko> hello world !
[13:19] <kaniteko> i can't install koffice-kde, beacause it conflicts with kde-icons-oxygen during install :/
[13:22] <marek_> hi is it possible to have video previews in dolphin?
[13:23] <kabunta> don't think, no
[13:31] <bluestyle> hello does any1 know how i hide bottom bar to left or rlght in kde4?
[13:34] <Serva> Hello, when I am trying to login into my kubuntu hardy heron, it is giving me the same login screen again.
[13:34] <Serva> until last night it was working fine.
[13:37] <Serva> anyone has an idea about the problem?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:49] <Cannon> hi BluesKaj
[13:49] <BluesKaj> hi Cannon
[13:50] <roby70> ciao
[13:50] <Cannon> fancy helping a noob? :P
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Cannon, if I can sure...gotta know your prob first :)
[13:51] <Cannon> heh
[13:51] <Cannon> i was getting it ready :P
[13:51] <Cannon> http://pastebin.com/m21408624 <<< how do I go about installing that>
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ok shoot
[13:51] <Cannon> Sopcast so I can watch TV streams
[13:51] <bluestyle> why i cant open my other partitions?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> those pkges are for Red Hat Linux , rpm files aren't used on kubuntu
[13:53] <BluesKaj> !rpm | Cannon
[13:53] <Serva> When I am trying to login into hardy heron, it is giving me the same login screen. again n again.
[13:53] <Cannon> does that mean I can't install it?
[13:53] <Cannon> and need to switch to RHL?
[13:54] <Serva> I could login through command line interface
[13:54] <wesley> Where stands apt for ?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Cannon, not those , no ..if you can find debian based equivalents , then it should be fine... where ddi you find those pkges ?
[13:54] <wesley> Alien Package Tool ?
[13:55] <Cannon> http://www.sopcast.com/download/
[13:55] <Cannon> @ BluesKaj
[13:56] <Cannon> wesley: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Advanced+Package+Tool+(Linux)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Cannon, the command line versions will work if installed but you won't have a GUI
[13:57] <Serva> BluesKaj, any suggestion for the login problem?
[13:57] <Cannon> k, thanks BluesKaj
[13:58] <Cannon> do devs tend to create for Red Hat rather than debien BluesKaj?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> not necessarily Cannon , I think kubuntu is the most popular Linux OS right now so development is prolly leaning more to us than rehat
[13:59] <longh> hey, is it a known issue, that kmail won't install alongside kjots in the beta
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Serva, pls elaborate about your login prob ...exactly what is happening ?
[14:01] <Cannon> k, thanks for your honesty BluesKaj :)
[14:01] <longh> http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[14:01] <longh> oops
[14:01] <longh> http://pastebin.ca/1277737
[14:02] <Serva> BluesKaj, I was logged in for about 4 days in hardy and everything was working fine until last night. When I resumed the session (as i normally do, after a suspend) I logged back in again. But for some reason I decided to restart the session.
[14:02] <longh> apachelogger: ^
[14:02] <Serva> and since that time, I am not able to log back in. It is giving me login screen again n again.
[14:03] <Serva> When I resumed the session today morning*
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Serva, dunno right offhand what the prob could be , have you upgraded any apps ?
[14:04] <Serva> yes, I most certainly did. The usual kubuntu updates.
[14:04] <Serva> over the period of 4 days, a lot of updates.
[14:05] <bluestyle> are there other channels except Kubuntu?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Serva ok, are you on the cmnd line ,like irssi ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:07] <BluesKaj> bluestyle, what partitions do you have  ?
[14:08] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i make gtk apps running as root not look lame
[14:08] <Cannon> bluestyle: you could do a /list but it will certainly flood ya! :P  There are LOADS!
[14:12] <timbba> I'm stucked with kde... I tried 4.2 beta, but it won't start at all.. Ok, I removed all "sudo apt-get remove kde*" and after that removed the ppa reposity and re-installed kde 4.1.3 (kubuntu-kde4-desktop)... the same thing, won't load anymore. damn
[14:15] <elwood> timbba: remove your ~/.kde . It worked for me
[14:16] <PhilRod> don't delete ~/.kde - it may contain your addressbook and your mail as well as general config stuff
[14:17] <PhilRod> (renaming it to something else is much safer)
[14:17] <martinex> kubuntu.es
[14:18] <wesley> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=    would it be in Kubuntu cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/ ?
[14:18] <martinex> #kubuntu.es
[14:18] <BluesKaj> !es | martinex
[14:26] <timbba> still some ideas.. after trying kde 4.2 (didn't work at all, so I removed it), kde 4.1.3 won't start anymore either. I tried already removing .kde folder --> didn't help
[14:28] <SkittleLinux18_> good morning everyone!
[14:29] <BluesKaj> timbba, ctrl+alt+F2, type startkdm
[14:29] <BluesKaj> to get back to the desktop , ctrl+alt+f7
[14:29] <timbba> BluesKaj: startkdm just says that $DISPLAY is not set or something...
[14:30] <BluesKaj> 'morning SkittleLinux18_
[14:30] <timbba> sorry.. I'm talking about startkde...
[14:30] <SkittleLinux18_> =D
[14:30] <BluesKaj> timbba, what about startx?
[14:30] <timbba> I can get to login screen, but can't login.. flashes and goes back to login screen
[14:32] <BluesKaj> timbba, you might have to do a ' sudo depackage-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' in the cli
[14:32] <timbba> BluesKaj: ok I will try that next... I'll be back soon..
[14:34] <BluesKaj> oops wrong command
[14:34]  * BluesKaj cleans out the cobwebs and consults the commands textfile
[14:35] <bluestyle> tell me one player to download who play audio stream(radio) ?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> amarok
[14:36] <bluestyle> i want to use it as plug in on explorer
[14:37] <timbba> didn't help dpkg-reconfigure either to my kde launch problem
[14:37] <timbba> .xsession-errors says "kdeinit: fatal IO error: client killed"
[14:37] <timbba> so trying kde 4.2 beta has killed my whole kde setup :)
[14:38] <BluesKaj> timbba, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ..didn't launch ?
[14:38] <timbba> yep, didn't launch
[14:39] <KiDFlaSh> i changed the stylecolor of KDE
[14:39] <BluesKaj> timbba, try to install kubuntu-desktop
[14:39] <KiDFlaSh> but in kopete i write BLACK NOW
[14:39] <KiDFlaSh> why?
[14:39] <timbba> tried already
[14:39] <KiDFlaSh> in black background
[14:39] <wallabee> !plazmoid
[14:41] <wallabee> What is the purpose of adding widgets to the plasma dashboard?? Are there other more useful widgets than the ones in the provided list that can be added??
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !plasma
[14:43] <elwood> !kde4
[14:44] <wallabee> I switched from OSX which had a "dashboard" but i could do things like track flights stocks or have a lava lamp etc. are there widgets that are a little more fun or useful than those provided in the list??
[14:45] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:46] <wallabee> BBL?
[14:47] <Cannon> bbl = be back later
[14:47] <wallabee> ahh
[14:47] <Cannon> hey guys, how do I mount a hdd so I can access my music from my windows OS?
[14:48] <wallabee> cant you use wine to access the hd? im not sure though
[14:49] <globax> hi
[14:49] <Cannon> it's not the windows OS, it's just my backups hdd, 500gb
[14:49] <globax> how could i install latesk
[14:49] <Cannon> music, movies, tv eps, etv
[14:49] <wallabee> i see
[14:49] <globax> how could i install latest kubuntu with 7.10 install cd?
[14:50] <wallabee> put it in your cd drive
[14:50] <Cannon> :O
[14:51] <wallabee> i would download the newer cd from the website though.. its a lot more convenient than updating...lol i had to do the same thing
[14:51] <globax> i don't want to do upgrade..
[14:51] <globax> is there any other way?
[14:52] <wallabee> you could order the cd its free
[14:52] <Cannon> you can download it
[14:54] <wallabee> i think its possible to upgrade through adept once you install
[14:58] <Cannon> hey guys, am really confused ... I'm getting audio through apps like kopete when I get a message but nothing in amarok or web browser (youtube) ... how can I fix it?
[14:59] <redes> join #kubuntu-es
[15:02] <Cannon> k
[15:02] <timbba> ok, I'll have to warn everybody that kde 4.2 beta packages in my machine messed up everything.. maybe I'll need to reinstall the whole OS
[15:02] <Cannon> red
[15:03] <Cannon> oops
[15:03] <Cannon> timbba: any ideas how I can get my sound working?
[15:03] <macjason0606> guys .. every time i empty the trash my panel crashes .. ? i removed dolphin already im on kubuntu 4.1
[15:03] <Cannon> the only app thats producing sound is kopete ... but not amarok or web broswer
[15:04] <Cannon> macjason0606: kde 4.1 ... kubuntu 8.10?
[15:04] <macjason0606> Cannon, yea
[15:04] <Cannon> can ya help me fix my sound problems?
[15:04] <macjason0606> Cannon, how do i check my version for the commnad line ?
[15:04] <Cannon> lol
[15:05] <macjason0606> ls something right ?
[15:05] <Cannon> dunno m8 ... am a linux noob
[15:06] <EagleSn> i have installed Kubuntu 8.04.1 with KDE 3.5 for amd64, and flash player plugin is not working for me neither: Konqueror and Opera.
[15:07] <KiDFlaSh> why i cant CHANGE THE COLOR
[15:07] <KiDFlaSh> of kopetes fonts
[15:07] <KiDFlaSh> ?
[15:11] <BERK-> selamlar.
[15:11] <ilor> why is adept so badly broken in 8.10?
[15:11] <macjason0606> oh .. the big question i forgot to ask you guys .. i did a apt-get remove dolphin .. i can't access my hd now .. is  there another way to access it ?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, I'm not sure if flashplugin-nonfree works on 64bit
[15:12] <BluesKaj> you can try it
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !flashplugin-nonfree
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[15:13] <macjason0606> do i have to reinstall dolphin ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, I think the above answers your question :)
[15:14] <EagleSn> obiosly, i alreadu have installed package flashplugin-nonfree before comming here
[15:14] <EagleSn> but it is not doing its work
[15:15] <EagleSn> it is version 9 in hardy
[15:15] <BluesKaj> flash player plugin and flashplugin-nonfree are 2 different things , so I assumed you had the wrong app installed
[15:16] <EagleSn> BluesKaj i think not
[15:16] <EagleSn> i only want to install flash to can watch videos from youtube
[15:16] <BluesKaj> EagleS fine , then think not
[15:17] <EagleSn> flashplugin.nonfree should do it, it works well for i386 arch
[15:17] <EagleSn> installation of version 10 .deb for amd64 fails: i can paste the error output
[15:17] <EagleSn> yesterday i installed it OK in Debian, but Kubuntu hatdy reports an error when installing
[15:17] <ThinkMinus> Well, I tried Kubuntu 8.10 only for  about one hour today at my friends home and noticed something weird... When I type any command at terminal that needs to elevate the privileges and if I use sudo then the complete session gets SUDOed i.e. I dont need to sudo until I restart X (or maybe computer)....I consider it to be a security hole......What do you think?
[15:18] <EagleSn> i will paste the error
[15:19] <_gunni_> ThinkMinus: I think the password / rights is cached for some time, i think 15 minutes, after that time the password should be asked again
[15:20] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, afaik that plugin works in firefox only
[15:20] <ThinkMinus> _gunni : Well, that means for those 15 minutes or so, the particular Kubuntu installation is vulnerable...Isnt it?
[15:21] <EagleSn> BluesKaj, i cannot believe it, i have used it multiple times for Konqueror and Opera
[15:22] <_gunni_> ThinkMinus: Seems so, but you could logout if you leave the pc
[15:22] <EagleSn> Konqueror is ready to use mozilla plugins
[15:22] <ThinkMinus> _gunni : It's not about logging out....
[15:22] <_gunni_> Maybe theres also a way to empty the password cache, but i dont know about that
[15:22] <BluesKaj> ThinkMinus, it used to be a minute or 2 that one could run inatalls etc without sudo
[15:22] <moms> salut
[15:24] <ThinkMinus> BluesKaj : If some one needs to elevate privilages for a minute or two for installs, then he/she can always 'su' (although this is a very bad habit)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, recently konqueror works ok on youtube , but dunno about opera
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ThinkMinus, haven't used 'su' in ages :)
[15:25] <EagleSn> first, i would like to do konqueror working
[15:25] <moms> comment je fait deja pour rejoindre la salle en francais
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !fr | moms
[15:26] <EagleSn> i have now other problem, i have installed this .deb forcing architecture: http://get.adobe.com/es/flashplayer/
[15:26] <ThinkMinus> BluesKaj : See, GNU and linuxes left wheel a long long ago... and now as far as Kubuntu is concerned it is going the way where those 1 or 2 minutes for which session is automatically SUDOed it may be worser than Windoze.....
[15:26] <ThinkMinus> ...in context of malicious files (e.g. viruses)
[15:26] <ThinkMinus> And then Kubuntu will say users to use Antiviruses
[15:27] <EagleSn> now flashplugin-nonfree conflicts with it, but i cannot find it in synaptic to remove it
[15:29] <zismuc> hola... alguien me lee?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, looking just for' flash 'will list them all
[15:29] <ThinkMinus> This is what Apple is doing with OS X. See this link : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/02/apple_mac_av_advice/
[15:30] <ThinkMinus> Is the same thing applicable to ubuntu?
[15:30] <EagleSn> BluesKaj: negative by the momment
[15:30] <moms> #kubuntu-fr
[15:30] <moms> desoler
[15:30] <BluesKaj> moms  /join #kubuntu-fr
[15:31] <_gunni_> ThinkMinus: Dont know, but i think it is for all *buntu derivates
[15:31] <EagleSn> see the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81409/
[15:32] <EagleSn> but adobe-flashplugin is not listed in synaptic
[15:32] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, I don't understand ... ?
[15:32] <EagleSn> did you read pastebin?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> EagleSn, adobe-flashplugin is listed
[15:34] <BluesKaj> in synaptic
[15:34] <BluesKaj> remove it
[15:34] <EagleSn> i will try with aptitude...
[15:34] <wallabee> how do i add more screen savers ? system settings-->desktop-->screen saver  only shows blank screen or random but no others!
[15:36] <EagleSn> in my case, TAB autocomplete adobe-flashplugin for aptitude, but... http://paste.ubuntu.com/81412/
[15:39] <EagleSn> i will be away 5 minutes..
[15:44] <wallabee> how do i add more screen savers ? system settings-->desktop-->screen saver  only shows blank screen or random\
[15:56] <EagleSn> i am back
[15:57] <ares87> anyone here have an ATI video card?
[15:58] <Cannon> how do I mount a separate hdd that I use for storing my music?
[16:00] <ares87> what kind of hdd is it?
[16:01] <ares87> i mean like is it a windows hdd?
[16:01] <ThinkMinus> Cannon : Apart from ares87's question, What is FS type?
[16:01] <ThinkMinus> Cannon : Maybe this could help : "fdisk -l" (without quotes)
[16:04] <cicciux> hi, I recently upgraded/migrated to intrepid and I was wondering if there was a widget that does something like 'DU Meter' on windows.
[16:05] <ThinkMinus> cicciux : I dont know exactly but there must be something.....
[16:06] <Cannon> sorry ares87: yes it's ntfs 500gb
[16:06] <cicciux> ThinkMinus, well, I'll keep googling... XD
[16:06] <DaSkreech> What does DU meter do?
[16:07] <ThinkMinus> DaSkreech : http://www.dumeter.com/
[16:07] <cicciux> DaSkreech, it keeps a log of network usage
[16:07] <DaSkreech> It makes you more efficient by giving you graphs?
[16:07] <DaSkreech> A log.. oh. So you can see what happened last week?
[16:07] <cicciux> and has a beautiful display that shows current down/upload speed
[16:08] <ThinkMinus> I am not sure but may be "DU meter" is full form of "Donwload Upload meter" :)
[16:09] <ThinkMinus> cicciux : There is a similar "beautiful" :) application that ships with windows too...
[16:09] <DaSkreech> Yeah I think there are network monitors but I don't know if they keep logs
[16:10] <ThinkMinus> ....And it's called Task Manager.....
[16:10] <Cannon> ThinkMinus: http://pastebin.com/d74e94f86 <<< any ideas?
[16:10] <ThinkMinus> Cannon : Try pasting ouptut of : "sysctl hw.disknames"
[16:11] <ares87> does anyone have an ATI video card?
[16:11] <wallabee> how do i add more screen savers ? system settings-->desktop-->screen saver  only shows blank screen or random
[16:11] <Cannon> http://pastebin.com/d15d3592c <<< updated ThinkMinus
[16:12] <ThinkMinus> cicciux : Simply click "Networking" tab of task manager to see Windows equivalent of DU meter :)
[16:12] <ThinkMinus> Cannon : OOPS!! I forgot that works on Unix....just a sec
[16:13] <cicciux> ThinkMinus, but I want something 'discrete'...
[16:13] <ThinkMinus> cicciux : :)
[16:14] <ares87> anyone here have an ATI card?
[16:14] <Cannon> sorry, nvidia ares87
[16:14] <ares87> ahh yea - u are a smarter man than me
[16:15] <Cannon> lol
[16:15] <cicciux> kNetLoad :S
[16:15] <Cannon> i've always preferred nvidia
[16:15] <ares87> I like nvidia but ati is cheaper and the only main competition to nvidia so I feel they need to be supported sometimes
[16:15] <Cannon> whats a good partition manager for kubuntu?
[16:16] <Cannon> lol
[16:16] <Cannon> i used to feel that about amd
[16:16] <Cannon> ati used to be bigger
[16:16] <Cannon> but nvidia are better cards
[16:16] <ThinkMinus> Cannon : Try : cat /proc/partitions
[16:17] <DaSkreech> I have ATI
[16:17] <Cannon> getting somewhere I think ThinkMinus
[16:17] <Cannon> http://pastebin.com/d10fd0972
[16:17] <DaSkreech> I think ATI has better cards but they have Rubbish software to drive them
[16:17] <DaSkreech> Well they used to t
[16:17] <Cannon> sdb1 is the one that I wanna mount ThinkMinus
[16:17] <DaSkreech> It looks like they are stepping up in that dept
[16:18] <Cannon> i dunno
[16:18] <DaSkreech> What's Cannon trying to do?
[16:18] <Cannon> haven't looked since I bought my 8800gts 18 months ago :D
[16:18] <ThinkMinus> Cannon : sdb1 is ntfs...I suppose?
[16:18] <Cannon> i wanna mount my hdd
[16:18] <Cannon> yep
[16:18] <Cannon> i used it for my downloads in windows vista
[16:18] <Cannon> no os in it
[16:19] <cicciux> KNetLoad is exactly what I want... :D as always, google came through. Thanks everyone!
[16:19] <ares87> can't you just mount it from dolphin?
[16:19] <cicciux> (not a plasma widget, but close)
[16:19] <Cannon> but I wanna clean it out ... backup what I need and then reformat to another system that linux and windows both like
[16:20] <DaSkreech> Cannon: You want it permanently mounted or just a quick thing to see it ?
[16:20] <Cannon> perm pls
[16:20] <Cannon> i don't see it in dolphin at all
[16:20] <cicciux> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/DISK -o ro
[16:20] <DaSkreech> cicciux: :-D Mail the maintainer they may be motivated to provide a plasmoid based on the engine
[16:20] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[16:21] <Cannon> zomg, how do I do it as root?
[16:21] <Cannon> i forgot, lol
[16:21] <marek_> what should i enter to CLI to lock session?
[16:21] <cicciux> sudo
[16:21] <Cannon> lol, ta
[16:22] <cicciux> you should use a LABEL for the disk though...
[16:22] <ThinkMinus> marek_ : Press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[16:22] <cicciux> but I'm not sure you can put labels on NTFS partitions.
[16:22] <Cannon> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/DISK: No such file or directory
[16:22] <cicciux> marek_, don't do that.
[16:22] <marek_> cicciux i know im not stupid
[16:23] <cicciux> and exactly how do you want to lock the session?
[16:23] <Cannon> grrrrrrrrrrr
[16:24] <Cannon> http://pastebin.com/d6a5681c2 <<< still no worky :'(
[16:24] <mirian> hola
[16:25] <mirian_> hello
[16:25] <Cannon> http://pastebin.com/d6a5681c2 <<< could somebody tell me what I am doing wrong please?
[16:25] <DaSkreech> marerk_: Logout?
[16:25] <mirian_> soy sencilla y tu???
[16:26] <mirian_> escucho musica bastante
[16:26] <DaSkreech> !es
[16:27] <mirian_> quiero saber de donde ers
[16:28] <paracetamolo1> hello
[16:28] <macjason0606> guys .. i uninstalled dolphin .. i can't seem to find any other file manager .. is there any ?
[16:28] <ThinkMinus11> Cannon : YOur error suggest that mount point does not exist
[16:28] <paracetamolo1> anyone knows where to get a digikam 0.10 package?
[16:28] <ThinkMinus11> Cannon : Use mkdir to make mount point directory
[16:28] <mirian> hola
[16:29] <mirian> my directory not tengo
[16:30] <macjason0606> is this channel ever alive
[16:31] <Cannon> thanks ThinkMinus
[16:31] <ThinkMinus11> Cannon : np
[16:31] <Cannon> always macjason0606
[16:32] <macjason0606> guys .. i uninstalled dolphin .. i can't seem to find any other file manager .. is there any ?
[16:32] <macjason0606> whenever i did a empty trash on the file manager "Dolphin" my panel would crash
[16:35] <cicciux> how do I find the UUID of a disk that does not appear on /dev/disk/by-uuid
[16:35] <DaSkreech> macjason0606: Reinstall Dolphin or use konqueror?
[16:36] <DaSkreech> !uuid
[16:36] <macjason0606> DaSkreech, but everytime i empty trash i get a kernal panic
[16:36] <DaSkreech> A kernel panic??
[16:36] <robotboy_> i own jarod.dime-software.co.uk
[16:36] <macjason0606> or the system crashes
[16:36] <wallabee> how do i add more screen savers ? system settings-->desktop-->screen saver  only shows blank screen or random
[16:36] <macjason0606> DaSkreech, want me to post a screenshot ?
[16:36] <DaSkreech> sure
[16:36] <macjason0606> ok
[16:36] <macjason0606> reinstalling dolphin
[16:37] <robotboy_> you can only put one wallpaper on each side
[16:37] <macjason0606> brb .. reinstall dolphin
[16:37] <robotboy_> my computer is a best one in my house
[16:37] <robotboy_> what do you mean
[16:38] <DaSkreech> !info kscreensaver | wallabee Hope that helps
[16:38] <robotboy_> a lot of peple is leaveing
[16:39] <cicciux> DaSkreech, thanks, but not what I asked.
[16:39] <robotboy_> who is macjason0606
[16:39] <DaSkreech> robotboy_: Can You join #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:40] <DaSkreech> or leave
[16:40] <kevin__> hello all, I have a   terminal open... can anyone tell me how to verify wich version of KDE I a; m running
[16:42] <ares87> is there a side room for getting ati cards to work?
[16:43] <ares87> or work properly?
[16:43] <ThinkMinus> Kevin : Using GUI, open KDE control center. There must be some 'help' or 'about' sort of option there
[16:43] <mkargar> hello
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:44] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip : Hello
[16:44] <macjason0607> guys .. i notice when i need to upgrade i get a ballon .. when i click it nothing happens
[16:44] <macjason0607> do you know where i can find this
[16:45] <wallabee> thanks DaSkreech
[16:45] <DaSkreech> kevin__: Is it a konsole? :-)
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> kevin__ : Try using : "KDE3 runtime:
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> kde-config --version
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> KDE4 runtime:
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> kde4-config --version
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> "
[16:46] <aps> Hi
[16:46] <kevin__> DaSkreech.... I remembered the command kwin --version
[16:46] <kevin__> thanks anyway
[16:46] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[16:47] <robotboy_> hello
[16:47] <bittin> Hi
[16:47] <DaSkreech> hi robotboy_
[16:47] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip : You had helped me to set up an internet connection the day before yesterday (although it does not worked :(  )
[16:47] <robotboy_> hi i now computers good
[16:47] <DaSkreech> robotboy_: Can you join #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[16:48] <robotboy_> have you got the network cable in
[16:48] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip : Ty for your help...I will be try to cure that problem some other day as I am kinda busy now :)
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> ThinkMinus: np man, help where you can :)
[16:48] <robotboy_> hi
[16:48] <infected> hi
[16:49] <robotboy_> what is a matter
[16:49] <robotboy_> i just instailled this programe
[16:49] <ares87> if anyone could help with these problems.... I would appreciate it:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/second-monitor-not-recognised-688625/
[16:49] <DaSkreech> robotboy_: You are pretty offtopic. You can talk as much as you like in #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:49] <robotboy_> i can
[16:49] <robotboy_> with computer
[16:51] <robotboy_> can you join #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:51] <robotboy_> how many people is online
[16:55] <wesley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/81442/  i got a cmake error
[16:55] <robotboy_> how?
[16:56] <robotboy_> hello gus
[16:56] <robotboy_> how are you doing
[17:02] <robotjarod> hello
[17:06] <robotboy_> hello
[17:06] <robotboy_> Who got linx
[17:06] <robotboy_> ?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> most of us do
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> if not all
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> i have some bsd too
[17:07] <robotboy_> i own http://jarod.dime-software.co.uk
[17:07] <ThinkMinus> ActionParsnip : It's likely that robotboy is talking about LYNX :)
[17:07] <robotboy_> and http://jarod.dime-software.co.uk/xmaspage.html
[17:07] <desu> ah, lynx is nice... but i prefer elinks...
[17:08] <desu> :P
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> oic
[17:08] <robotboy_> what is elinks
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> theres lynx too which is great for bsd installs :)
[17:08] <robotboy_> what is bsd
[17:10] <ThinkMinus> robotboy_ : BSD is this --->  http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=BSD
[17:10] <HavocXphere> lol
[17:11] <ikonia> !es > jose
[17:12] <j0se> ikonia : There is no PM for me ;)
[17:13] <ikonia> j0se: I sent it to jose, as you saw
[17:13] <ikonia> then you changed name
[17:14] <ikonia> so stop messing around
[17:14] <j0se> ikonia : NVM...I was just joking...see the smiley in my last message ;)
[17:15] <wesley> suckers when you use paste they dont listen
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> wesley: pastebin is essential for conf files
[17:20] <wesley> i did use it
[17:20] <wesley> i normally use it always
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> you should for multiple lines
[17:25] <wesley> is that something automatic that bot bans you
[17:26] <kurumin> algum brasileiro ai?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> wesley: itll tell you, ops will ban you for multiple offences
[17:28] <wesley> yeah i know i am already banned from #ubuntu-nl but thats a different story, they are the Hitler off Linux
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> just dont troll or flood and you'll be fine#
[17:34] <wesley> its dead here, so i go watch my movie
[17:34] <wesley> Battle Royal 2
[17:34] <wesley> And after that Merlin
[17:40] <DaSkreech> !br
[17:47] <bentob0x> hi, is it possible to copy files with accents (or accented characters) from ext3 onto a USB hard drive in ntfs?
[17:48] <Rioting_pacifist> gem eats all my ram (about 1 a gig) when trying to bulk update
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: you may need to mount with a different codepage to handle the accents
[17:51] <szrhawaii> having trouble with kdisplay
[17:51] <szrhawaii> im trying to run kdm theme but the kdisplay manager keeps over riding it how can i fix that issue
[17:52] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to configure kdisplay and kdm theme manager so it works without kdisplay over riding it
[17:53] <bentob0x> thx ActionParsnip, any advise on mount command?
[17:54] <bentob0x> it's currently mounted as: /dev/sdd1 /media/external auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/17726/hidden-folders-directories-or-files.html
[17:58] <Guest82144> i changed desktop enhancement and now cant change back
[17:58] <Guest82144> i cant see anything when i get in kubuntu
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> bentob0x: you need to add the codepage so the charcters in the file names are displayed correctly
[18:01] <Guest82144> how can i turn off display enhancements from ubuntu
[18:01] <Guest82144> for kubuntu
[18:02] <szrhawaii> actionparsnip hey i am having a issue with my kdisplay i downloaded the kdm theme manager and now my kdisplay manager is over riding it and the kdm theme manager doesnt want to work
[18:02] <szrhawaii> how do i fix
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> !theme | szrhawaii
[18:03] <szrhawaii> not looking for themes
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: ive never played with kdm themes as its on my screen for all of 2 seconds so I dont care
[18:03] <lars> hi all
[18:03] <Guest82144> ?
[18:04] <lars> do girls also use linux???
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> lars: yeah, g33k_girl comes in occasionally
[18:05] <lars> ah ok
[18:06] <lars> where can i get a list of other irc chatrooms?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> lars, irc is a huge network of irc servers, the chatrooms reside within each server
[18:15] <Duende> hi
[18:19] <DaSkreech> lars: try /list
[18:19] <DaSkreech> !hi
[18:27] <Rioting_pacifist> dont try /list on something like freenode
[18:30] <bigolewannabe> am I wrong or is there a packing problem with KJots, KAlgebra and KMouth?
[18:30] <bigolewannabe> in an upgrade to 4.2b1
[18:31] <lars__> how can i make the kubuntu taskbar thinner?
[18:31] <dr_willis> Not sure if its possible yet in kde4 lars__
[18:31] <dr_willis> tjeres a lot of little 'features' still missing.
[18:32] <DaSkreech> lars__: How thin?
[18:33] <lars__> well thinner than the default
[18:33] <lars__> i personally think its too fat!!
[18:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm thin vertically or horizontally?
[18:33] <lars__> horizontally
[18:33] <EagleSn> I Cannot install flashplugin-nonfree on kubuntu 8.04.1 for amd64,  any idea? the problem is that in hardy repository is version 9, which is out of server yet
[18:34] <lars__> does anyone have a ibm x60?
[18:36] <EagleSn> then i am trying to install version 10, i have downloaded package from intrepid repository, but the installation report an error, here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81493/
[18:36] <EagleSn> it seems to be a problem with libnss3
[18:36] <EagleSn> the library is installed
[18:37] <sigma20> how do i make my windows key activate the k menu in kde4?
[18:37] <DaSkreech> lars__: Click the cashew at the end. You will get little arrows above the panel just slide them to where you want them
[18:37] <dr_willis> sigma20,  I think you dont.. :) i seen that asked about kde3. and it was a bit of a job to get it working.. (if it could, i dont recall anyone actualy doing it)
[18:39] <sigma20> but i want to use the win key for something. such a waste right now!
[18:39] <dr_willis> I use it in compiz all the time
[18:39] <dr_willis> I dont really want a key 'just' to pop up a menu. thats a waste. :)
[18:40] <sigma20> fair enough. but i dont use compiz so its just a dormant key for me
[18:42] <dr_willis> I imagine theres some3 way to bind it to features of kde4. but not sure about the key itself  being a single action. since its a  'super'  key.
[18:42] <cicciux> sigma20: alt+f1 does that
[18:44] <sigma20> what do you mean by its a super key?
[18:44] <dr_willis> alt, ctrl. meta. 'super' -  In the varioys keyboard settings. the windows key is the 'super' key -   'super-s' would be the windowskey+s
[18:46] <dr_willis> I have compiz set to zoom on 'super+mousewheel'  and super-tab does the fancy task changer
[18:46] <sigma20> i see
[18:49] <HavocXphere> I think one could force it to use just the Win key if one edits the config file directly. But it would break a lot of other combos. etc all the Desktop effect are Win/Meta+Something.
[18:51] <BluesKaj> just installed compiz and some plugins but when I launch compix from the shell I keep getting this error:  /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[18:52] <BluesKaj> err compiz
[18:52] <iman> problem with eee c 900 webbcam
[18:56] <tzd> hi guys! How on earth do i mount my mobile phone (SE Xperia X1) in kubuntu hardy please? I'm able to see all phone info via SynCE KDE PDA manager.
[18:56] <cumulus007> Hi, where can I find Quick Access on KDE 4.2?
[18:58] <HavocXphere> tzd: Doesn't the phone provide an option to switch to file-browsing mode when you connect it via cable? Most SE phones do.
[18:59] <iman> how I use the webbcam of Asus Eeee PC 900 ?
[18:59] <tzd> HavocXphere: it does and it says that the memory card have to be plugged in which it is and then it switches back to "sync with outlook" mode
[19:00] <HavocXphere> tzd: That sounds like a phone issue to me, not a kubuntu issue. Can you access the mem card via the SE folder browser (on the phone)?
[19:00] <tzd> HavocXphere: by using that file-browsing mode there won't be an issue right? I guess I'll have to mention my issue to the ROM developer instead
[19:01] <HavocXphere> tzd: In file browsing mode it *should* be autodetected and mounted just like a mem stick. Hang on a sec I'll see if it works here
[19:01] <tzd> HavocXphere: I agree :) Yes, i can access the memory on my phone with no issues... I'm running a customized ROM though which is probably the cause of my problem.
[19:01] <tzd> HavocXphere: ah ok, thanks!
[19:02] <tzd> I can still access everything via WLAN but it would be neat to have it mounted in Amarok and use it in there ;)
[19:03] <HavocXphere> Yeah. Works 100% here. Not a X1 though...Make sure the Knetworkmanager is running...that appears to be handling the connection for some reason. It's auto mounted in dolphon just like a cd drive
[19:04] <tzd> ah ok, I've disabled that one... Will start it and see if that might help. Cheers!
[19:06] <Out_Cold> hey everyone.. i have ubuntu 8.10 installed with KDE 4 and want to downgrade... is this an easy task?
[19:06] <|robert|> hi. is there an kubuntu netbook remix or only ubuntu?
[19:07] <Out_Cold> * i want to install kde 3.5.10
[19:09] <tzd> didn't help with knetworkmanager, definitely a phone ROM issue. Thanks for your help HavocXphere!
[19:10] <HavocXphere> tzd:Sure. Hope you get it sorted out.
[19:13] <heinkel_111> how do I find the UUID of my /dev/sda2 ?
[19:14] <shyke2a> salut tout le monde
[19:14] <mblsh> go /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:14] <shyke2a> j'ai besoin d'aide
[19:14] <shyke2a> je ne trouve pas un logiciel
[19:15] <shyke2a> que j'ai installé avec Adept
[19:15] <heinkel_111> mblsh:  you mean "dev/disk/by-uuid" in konsole?
[19:15] <heinkel_111> !fr
[19:15] <shyke2a> ok merci*
[19:15] <heinkel_111> shyke2a: ^
[19:15] <heinkel_111> de rien :)
[19:17] <mblsh> heinkel_111:sudo ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:18] <heinkel_111> thank you..that works :)
[19:26] <Out_Cold> if i downgrade to 3.5.10 do i have to downgrade from intrepid to hardy??
[19:26] <jose> hi
[19:26] <glade88> forum.kde.org is down?
[19:26] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: No i don't think so
[19:26] <heinkel_111> anyone got any ideas how I can stop gparted from showing up in portuguese?
[19:27] <HavocXphere> glade88: Yeah. but kde.org is still up
[19:27] <heinkel_111> it is the 6th language on my list, and it is probably available in english-us and english-uk as well ;-)
[19:27] <glade88> HavocXphere: ok.. ty
[19:27] <Out_Cold> HavocXphere, do you know how i totally remove all KDE?
[19:29] <|robert|> hi. is there a kubuntu netbook remix or only ubuntu?
[19:29] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: Maybe this http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099379.0 But I haven't done that myself
[19:30] <Out_Cold> thanks
[19:31] <heinkel_111> Is it possible to edit the label of an ntfs drive without reformatting?
[19:31] <astromme> !puregnome | Out_Cold
[19:32] <HavocXphere> heinkel_111: Yes...use XP/Vista right-click properties and change it there
[19:32] <glade88> heinkel_111: use gparted
[19:32] <heinkel_111> HavocXphere: ok, thank you .... can we do without reboot?
[19:33] <glade88> heinkel_111: after you install, run gparted from System->Administration->Partition Editor
[19:33] <glade88> unmount the drive
[19:33] <francisc1701> hi, I crashed my xp, booted kubuntu, and now I can't mount my NTFS partitions -- is there a workaround other than booting xp and shutting it down properly?
[19:33] <glade88> and set the drive's label
[19:33] <heinkel_111> glade88...my gparted is showing up in portuguese for strange reasons so I can't do that right now
[19:33] <glade88> francisc1701: what error do you get? does it ask you to force mount?
[19:34] <glade88> heinkel_111: I can't really help with that then :)
[19:34] <heinkel_111> ahh unmount first. this might work from qtparted actually
[19:35] <heinkel_111> err no... qtparted cant do ntfs
[19:35] <glade88> francisc1701: at a terminal, type in: sudo mkdir /media/disk1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force -- where /dev/sda1 is the ntfs drive link
[19:36] <glade88> heinkel_111: take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[19:36] <francisc1701> glade88: thanks
[19:36] <glade88> francisc1701: does it work?
[19:36] <heinkel_111> glade88: thank you... I just started tinkering with "man ntfsomething"
[19:37] <glade88> heinkel_111: ntfsprogs ?
[19:38] <heinkel_111> yes... found the name in the document you linked ,-)
[19:38] <francisc1701> glade88: dunno, I already booted xp and shut it down so right now I can mount them normally
[19:38] <heinkel_111> glade88: there is something called ntfslabel that probably will do the job :-)
[19:39] <glade88> francisc1701: right. you would need to force mount your drives if you don't unmount it properly under XP.
[19:39] <glade88> heinkel_111: http://man.linux-ntfs.org/ntfslabel.8.html
[19:40] <francisc1701> glade88: ok, thanks again
[19:40] <glade88> francisc1701: np
[19:45] <heinkel_111> what determines the naming of drives in dolphin? It is really irritating to have 4 devices called "volume" in the left hand column
[19:45] <heinkel_111> volume (ntfs) volume (ntfs) volume (ntfs) and volume (ntfs)
[19:46] <heinkel_111> it is really informative, why did they ever give up konqueror :(
[19:46] <HavocXphere> heinkel_111: It is the NTFS drives names
[19:46] <HavocXphere> And fstab controls the directory name where its mounted
[19:46] <heinkel_111> in that case it doen not update
[19:47] <mooglinux> ne1 know how to get windows to open on my primary rather than secondary monitor?
[19:47] <HavocXphere> heinkel_111: Weird. But it definetly is...cause my drives all have the names I gave them in XP
[19:48] <heinkel_111> HavocXphere: that is probably correct, but I relabeled 3 of the drives using ntslabel in linux right now
[19:48] <heinkel_111> and they still show up in dolphin as volume(ntfs)'
[19:48] <HavocXphere> heinkel_111: Tried rebooting?
[19:48] <Out_Cold> HavocXphere, although that was a good link for a proposed downgrade... it seems kubuntu has asked the pearsons repo to stop with the kde3 packages and i think i'm screwed to re-format and downgrade back to hardy... which isn't really that bad anyways..
[19:48] <heinkel_111> ...guess it may require a new login or somthing
[19:49] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: I'm sure its possible...just google a bit. But try to stay on 8.10 and not downgrade to 8.04
[19:49] <Out_Cold> any reasons? other than the downgrade?
[19:50] <mooglinux> what determines which monitor new windows open up on?
[19:51] <mooglinux> in gnome it was whichever side had the active window at the time you open the program. that true in kubuntu too?
[19:52] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: You'd lose a lot of the behind the scenes changes they made since 8.04.
[19:53] <smitt> hi
[19:53] <smitt> i need ru kdevelop channel
[19:53] <smitt> please
[19:54] <Out_Cold> i suppose HavocXphere, but i'm starting to push my laptop to it's limits with the new releases... and both ibex and kde4 have caused several crashes and conflicts that i don't know how to fix...
[19:55] <coreymon77> !botsnack
[19:55] <Out_Cold> i'll try the kde downgrade route with ibex first before i downgrade back to hardy..
[19:55] <Tupac_shakur> hello
[19:56] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: Perhaps have a look at xubuntu then? That way you get the improvements minus the KDE4-bleeding-edgeness
[19:56] <Out_Cold> yea.. well can i still get kde3.5.10?
[19:56] <mooglinux> xubuntu is pretty nice. and a bit easier on the system requirements than kde or gnome
[19:57] <mooglinux> i was able to run xubuntu 8.04 fairly comfortabl on a laptop with only 256mb ram
[19:57] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: No, it would use a different window manager. I think fluxbox or Ice-something
[19:57] <Tupac_shakur> don,t like  xubuntu
[19:57] <Out_Cold> yea.. i use it on my server.. but would like to get into kde, and am not wanting the bleeding edge just yet.. i need stability..
[19:58] <HavocXphere> Tupac_shakur: We neither...but its better than anything else on low-powered hardware
[19:58] <Out_Cold> bleeding eddge just doesn't fly when your apps crash in the middle of a show..
[19:59] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: Have you tried running memtest? Cause apps really should be crashing out of the blue.
[20:00] <Out_Cold> i ran memtest when i got the laptop about 3 or 4 months ago
[20:02] <Out_Cold> maybe will run again.... i'll always take the easier route before i get more in-depth into fixing
[20:02] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: Well, they seem to be fixing kde4 bugs at a fast pace so maybe itll get fixed. I'm also still getting the occasional kmix bug
[20:02] <HavocXphere> Out_Cold: If memtest passed 3 months ago then its unlikely to have changed
[20:03] <mooglinux> think its worth updating to kde 4.2 beta?
[20:07] <mooglinux> anyone running the kde 4.2 beta, and how is it compared to 4.1?
[20:08] <snikker> how can i restore kde4, to become as in the fresh install?
[20:10] <bigolewannabe> mooglinux: looking good so far, but there might be some packing problems (at least for me)
[20:10] <mooglinux> packing issues?
[20:11] <bigolewannabe> I'm tracking it down now, but it looks like there's just a couple of packages with conflicting icons
[20:12] <Goan> The download in the KTorrent is just installed
[20:13] <Goan> I have used UPnP for port forwarding and TCP 6881 and UDP 4444 ports have been forwarded already through the router configuration.
[20:21] <C_KDE> hey wts up
[20:21] <snikker> how can i restore kde4, to become as in the fresh install?
[20:21] <C_KDE> idk, still trying 2 remove windows partion
[20:24] <dios_mio> which is faster: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:27] <DaSkreech> dios_mio: umm . I don't know it depends on how you use it
[20:27] <DaSkreech> dios_mio: Currently I might say Gnome since they are on release 26 and KDE is on release 2
[20:27] <DaSkreech> snikker: Remove all KDE4 packages and reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[20:29] <dios_mio> DaSkreech ok
[20:30] <DaSkreech> dios_mio: Though I still like KDE4 for the functionality :)
[20:30] <dios_mio> hmm ok
[20:30] <snikker> DaSkreech: beause i've removed .kde folder. and now i've got "KDEInit could not launch «/usr/bin/kate»" even if kate work. You tip can help for that?
[20:30] <DaSkreech> snikker: ha ha :)
[20:31] <DaSkreech> what were you trying to acheive ?
[20:31] <snikker> DaSkreech: i want remove that error...
[20:32] <DaSkreech> You said you removed .kde then got that error so you couldn't have removed kde to fix it
[20:32] <snikker> DaSkreech: yes, that's right
[20:33] <DaSkreech> What were you trying to do when you remove .kde ?
[20:34] <snikker> DaSkreech: i had removed .kde because kdm was freezed, after login...
[20:34] <DaSkreech> snikker: Ah ok I see. Now logging in works?
[20:35] <rohan> i am using kde 3.5.10 on kubuntu 8.04. i don't know what happened, but suddenly i couldn't control the volume using the Volume keys on my keyboard.
[20:35] <rohan> then i edited kmix settings, global shortcuts, and now at least the volume adjustment part works
[20:35] <rohan> but there is no OSD on adjusting the volume. How do i get it back/
[20:35] <snikker> DaSkreech: now the logging in work fine, but i've got the error with kate...
[20:36] <DaSkreech> snikker: this is if you run kate from alt+F2 or terminal ?
[20:37] <rohan> this happened ALL OF A SUDDEN, i really can't understand or pinpoint the issue :(
[20:38] <snikker> DaSkreech: this happen only if i open a second file from dolphin... now i try to open a second file from terminal...
[20:40] <snikker> DaSkreech: i've run kate -u file.txt from terminal, no error given... any idea?
[20:40] <aboSamoor1> I am trying to play music with Amarok without use. The slider move without any sound. However, all other program generate sounds perfectly
[20:40] <DaSkreech> make sure that kate is associated with text files
[20:41] <snikker> DaSkreech: ok, i check it...
[20:44] <Goan> Does anyone here use KTorrent?
[20:45] <snikker> DaSkreech: kate seem to be associated with text files
[20:48] <DaSkreech> well duh :-) if kdeinit is trying to open kate
[20:48] <RandyKalifornia> hello!
[20:48] <DaSkreech> umm
[20:48] <DaSkreech> other stuff works?
[20:48] <DaSkreech> !hi
[20:48] <RandyKalifornia> do you know how to mount a zune on Kubuntu?
[20:48] <RandyKalifornia> ?
[20:48] <snikker> DaSkreech: other stuff seem work
[20:53] <DaSkreech> RandyKalifornia: Does it use USB mass storage or the MS Audio protocol thing?
[20:53] <RandyKalifornia> I don't know :S
[20:53] <DaSkreech> RandyKalifornia: What do you want to mount it to do?
[20:54] <DaSkreech> Also do you know what firmware version you have?
[20:55] <RandyKalifornia> Kubuntu Feisty Fawn
[20:56] <RandyKalifornia> it's the 2.xx
[20:58] <DaSkreech> RandyKalifornia: currently the only thing I am seeing is installing Windows XP under vmware/virtualbox then accessing the USB bus through that. No simple way currently
[20:59] <RandyKalifornia> yeah, I read that.... :'(
[20:59] <DaSkreech> MS is not using the USB mass storage but MTP which they wrote and they are using some version they have not told anyone else about so it only works with things they approve of. You can get it working just not a click here solution
[20:59] <RandyKalifornia> so, no native support :S
[20:59] <RandyKalifornia> wow! I hate microsoft
[21:01] <DaSkreech> RandyKalifornia: plus it seems that the music is converted to a unknown format once placed on the device so you likely won't be able to play anything either
[21:02] <DaSkreech> RandyKalifornia: http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zune-hacks-mods/2772-zune-linux-progress-3.html looks like a good place to offer yourself for testing it out
[21:03] <RandyKalifornia> and that's the reason why Zune will never be as popular as the Ipod
[21:03] <RandyKalifornia> thanks anyways :D
[21:09] <snikker> DaSkreech: do you think if i remove and reinstall kde can solve that?
[21:11] <aboSamoor> how can make the multimedia keys in my thinkpad works, they were working in gnome    ?
[21:11] <DaSkreech> snikker: well if everything else works try just remove --purge kate then reinstall it
[21:12] <DaSkreech> !kmilo
[21:12] <DaSkreech> !info kmilo
[21:12] <DaSkreech> !info kmilo hardy
[21:12] <DaSkreech> Ah that sucks
[21:12] <DaSkreech> genii: ping
[21:14] <snikker> DaSkreech: nothing to do...
[21:17] <wesley> id there no #hotsinglelinuxbabes channel ?
[21:18] <Demetrius> Hi all
[21:18] <Demetrius> I've just upgrade my kde to 4.2 and get an error with broken packages
[21:18] <Demetrius> kubuntu 8.10
[21:19] <Demetrius> Is anyone had same problem today?
[21:22] <james_> alguem do brasil????
[21:23] <Demetrius> APT Error. Context:
[21:23] <Demetrius>     Running dpkg,
[21:23] <Demetrius>     [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --configure, plasmoid-quickaccess ],
[21:23] <Demetrius>     Sup-process returned error code 1,
[21:23] <Demetrius>     Error processing plasmoid-quickaccess : dependency problems - leaving unconfigured.
[21:23] <PSiL0> quick question, when setting up a shortcut key in a program, what do I type in to set it to Mouse scroll wheel down?  Currently, it is at "PgDn"
[21:23] <PSiL0> or "PgDown"
[21:24] <wesley> Demetrius thats just a plasmoid
[21:24] <james_> #brasil
[21:26] <james_> #sexo
[21:32] <PSiL0> for example, in xnview, I set picture scrolling to mouse wheel, which worked during the first run.  However, since then it has reverted back to PgUp/PgDown scrolling
[21:33] <PSiL0> I know I can substitute PgUp/PgDown for the mouse wheel, but I don't want to make systemwide changes
[21:33] <Demetrius> allmost all plasmoids don't want to work in kde 4.2
[21:33] <Goan> anyone uses KTorrent here?
[21:34] <Insector> anyone ever have the truecrypt gui hang X at or shortly before finishing the "formatting" phase when creating an encrypted volume?
[21:37] <Handcrafted> Okay, I just ran a software update on my eeepc, and now the wireless don't work, is this a know problem?
[21:45] <Handcrafted> anyone who can help?
[21:45] <HollowPoint> with what Handcrafted?
[21:45] <Handcrafted> My wireless network on my eeepc, stoped working after a software update
[21:46] <HollowPoint> what distro are you running on the EeePC?
[21:46] <Handcrafted> kubuntu 8.10
[21:47] <Handcrafted> I used to use the Ath5k modulem, but now it don't work
[21:47] <HollowPoint> hmmmmmm, well from what I hear there are some problems with 8.10 and a FEW wireless devices, they've made it excellent with some of the most common ones but some others just break
[21:47] <genii> DaSkreech: Ping yourself! The diodes all down my left side are sore!
[21:47] <ziggy> whats kubuntus backport pokicy in regards to kde
[21:47] <DaSkreech> genii: is there an anode for that?
[21:48] <genii> DaSkreech: Possibly :)
[21:48] <HollowPoint> Handcrafted:  check this how-to out mate, it may well help http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/02/wireless-networking-on-eeepc-701-ubuntu-810-intrepid/
[21:48] <DaSkreech> wesley: Start one
[21:48] <DaSkreech> Demetrius: What's the error?
[21:48] <DaSkreech> !br
[21:49] <DaSkreech> Goan: I sortta do
[21:49] <Demetrius> conflict libplasma2 and libplasma3
[21:49] <DaSkreech> !eeepc
[21:49] <DaSkreech> HollowPoint: I think there is a #ubuntu-eeepc
[21:50] <HollowPoint> there is but a how-to would probably work better than an IRC chat room, I only tend to see people get anywhere in IRC asking for help if there is no documentation for how-tos etc on the web
[21:50] <Handcrafted> HollowPoint: hmm, but do you think the linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic package could fix it? The one you need to activate the moodule in the first place?
[21:50] <HollowPoint> plus a how-to lets you take things at your own pace
[21:51] <ary> Apakah ada org indonesia d sini?
[21:51] <HollowPoint> well Handcrafted looking through that how to he seems to have got it working with that exact procedure, so I'd be inclined to give it a go
[21:51] <HollowPoint> !indonesia
[21:53] <Goan> DaSkreech, can you tell me your config
[21:53] <Goan> for KTorrent
[21:53] <DaSkreech> Goan: Hmm ?
[21:53] <DaSkreech> !indonesia
[21:53] <DaSkreech> ary: ^^^
[21:53] <Goan> what ports are you using - or anything specific that you have changed in the settings
[21:55] <DaSkreech> Didn't change anything but I have a fairly open network
[21:58] <jmichaelx> i just upgraded to the KDE4.2 beta, and am experiencing trouble with dolphin. In dolphin, i can see folders, but when i open a folder, i can't see the files that are in it. does anyone know if there is a workaround for this?
[21:59] <joao_> joao
[22:00] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: Every folder?
[22:00] <DaSkreech> !br
[22:00] <joao_> porra
[22:01] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: i am not sure about that, but i am certainly experiencing this with files in my home folder. i am not currently logged into the machine that i performed this upgrade on.
[22:01] <Demetrius> DaSkreech I've upgraded to kde4.2 beta1 and get messegae about broken packages
[22:02] <Demetrius> as I understand something with libplasma2 and libplasma3
[22:02] <jmichaelx> btw, kde4.2 is looking really nice
[22:02] <DaSkreech> Demetrius: What's the error?
[22:03] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: Ok can you look in /etc and see if there is anything there?
[22:03] <Demetrius> when I try to install kdeplasma-addons, it removes digikam and several other packages
[22:03] <DaSkreech> From $.2 ?
[22:03] <Demetrius> when I try to install them again it removes kde-plasma-addons
[22:04] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: Or rather if you can see anything
[22:04] <DaSkreech> 4.2
[22:04] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: i will have to get that laptop out and boot up, so it will take a minute or two until i get back with you, but i will check.
[22:04] <Demetrius> 4.2
[22:04] <DaSkreech> Demetrius: removes then doesn't install?
[22:05] <Demetrius> then install but remove packages which I installed before
[22:05] <Demetrius> It's like them exclude each other
[22:05] <Demetrius> It should be only 1, like Duncan McLaud
[22:05] <Demetrius> )
[22:05] <Demetrius> WTF?)
[22:05] <DaSkreech> :-)
[22:06] <DaSkreech>  When you install then reinstall digikam what does it do?
[22:06] <Demetrius> it removes kde-plasma-addons
[22:06] <Demetrius> when I install kde-plasma-addons it removes digikam
[22:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[22:07] <DaSkreech> JontheEchidna: Heard about that?
[22:08] <Demetrius> It said something about broken packages before and about libplasma2 and libplasma3
[22:11] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: ok, i have logged back into kde4.2 on that machine, but am no longer experiencing the problem i described to you. i am going to try a few things to see whether or not i can reproduce that problem.
[22:11] <tkstka> how do I stop a program
[22:11] <tkstka> ?
[22:11] <DaSkreech> tkstka: Close it
[22:11] <tkstka> I mean with console
[22:12] <tkstka> firefox is still on
[22:12] <DaSkreech> is it a console app?
[22:12] <DaSkreech> ah
[22:12] <DaSkreech> killall firefox
[22:12] <tkstka> ahh
[22:12] <tkstka> I tried stopall
[22:12] <tkstka> shutall
[22:12] <tkstka> :DD
[22:12] <tkstka> well I wasnt brutal enough
[22:12] <DaSkreech> unmitgatedmurderall
[22:13] <jmichaelx> i want that command installed on my system ^.^
[22:13] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: alias umitigatedmurderall='killall -9'
[22:13]  * jmichaelx runs apt-get install unmitgatedmurderall
[22:14] <jmichaelx> kill -9 / killall -9 are my friends
[22:14] <jmichaelx> not to mention kill ****
[22:15] <DaSkreech> kill -911
[22:15] <jmichaelx> i am just very impressed with kde4.2
[22:15] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: It's nice. I was toned down for it
[22:15] <PSiL0> can I reverse the scroll direction of the mouse for certain programs?
[22:15] <PSiL0> kde 4.1.3
[22:16] <DaSkreech> now I'm overwhelmed at how nice it is. really able to be introduced as KDE 4.0
[22:16] <jmichaelx> definitely
[22:16] <wesley> can i use windows sreensavers on linux ?
[22:16] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: umm You can do it in general I don't think that you can do it for certain apps
[22:16] <DaSkreech> wesley: I'll hazard a Yes but I'll also guess it's not easy or pretty
[22:17] <bnelson> i tried kde 4.1, i liked it a lot but it was way too buggy
[22:17] <bnelson> did 4.2 fix the bugs?
[22:17] <jmichaelx> wesley: no, but there are some screensavers that get used in windows that have been ported to linux
[22:17] <PSiL0> DaSkreech:  I see.. That is what I thought..
[22:17] <jmichaelx> bnelson: 4.2 is beta, and does still have a number of bugs, but it is very usable
[22:17] <DaSkreech> bnelson: Yes and added a whoooole lotta new ones
[22:17] <PSiL0> DaSkreech:  It is just painful that some programs has the scroll direction reversed
[22:18] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: What? Which ones?
[22:18] <wesley> jmichaelx can i not port it myself ?
[22:18] <PSiL0> DaSkreech:  Xnview
[22:18] <PSiL0> DaSkreech: Kplayer, MPlayer, VLC
[22:18] <DaSkreech> PSiL0: Thats a Xlib program
[22:18] <jmichaelx> wesley: if you are good at programing and compiling, possibly
[22:19] <wesley> why should something like a screensaver hard to port?
[22:19] <jmichaelx> wesley: most of the ones you are thinking of are probably closed source, therefore you would have to code similar ones from scratch
[22:19] <PSiL0> DaSkreech:  It would be nice that forward progress or next file is set to the down direction of the scroll wheel by default..
[22:20] <jmichaelx> wesley: there are a lot of screensavers you can install from the repositories. i am sure you'd find some you like
[22:20] <wesley> wow firefox can use alot system resources
[22:20] <DaSkreech> A
[22:20] <DaSkreech> lot
[22:21] <jmichaelx> yep, it's a bit of a hog
[22:21] <PSiL0> especially with the addition of extensions
[22:21] <DaSkreech> and flash
[22:21] <PSiL0> javascript
[22:21] <jmichaelx> or if you have 20+ tabs open all the time, like some person i know
[22:22] <DaSkreech> It's fairly sad that most days I can run a virtual computer in less memory than I can run Firefox
[22:22] <DaSkreech> JS isn't that bad FF3 has a nice JS implementation
[22:23] <jmichaelx> by all reports, ff3.1 may be a bit lighter and snappier
[22:23] <jmichaelx> it will be interesting to see what chrome will be like once it has a native unix port
[22:24] <jmichaelx> webkit more or less rocks
[22:24] <jmichaelx> wesley: if you are not opposed to non-free apps, opera is a very good alternative browser in linux
[22:25] <wesley> hmm just use konqeuror, but flash is using that much resources
[22:26] <walter> cio
[22:27] <wesley> and Mac osx screensavers can they work in linux
[22:27] <walter> #padova
[22:27] <jmichaelx> konqueror was somewhat broken as of several weeks ago, but i think it may be doing better now
[22:27] <wesley> for just surfing it fits well
[22:28] <jmichaelx> wesley: have you looked at all of the screensavers in the repositories? there are a lot of them
[22:28] <wesley> jmichael, i bet they dont have a Dexter screensaver
[22:28] <DaSkreech> I don't think that Chrome will get a native linux release
[22:29] <wesley> I think they same, and i dont like the Chrome interface
[22:29] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: i hope you're wrong about that. they have promised one, but i guess i wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen
[22:30] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: you thik they'll just be content with some sort of 'wine'ed version of it?
[22:30] <wesley> but Chrome is opensource ?
[22:30] <jmichaelx> wesley: yes
[22:30] <DaSkreech> The design of Chrome is very very Windows oriented with some breaks to take shots at Safari
[22:30] <wesley> so you can make Chrome for linux yourself ?
[22:31] <DaSkreech> Nothing they have done in terms of Design even shows they thought of Linux except that they use Gnome type libs
[22:31] <DaSkreech> Yes you can but it would take a good deal of code around currently
[22:31] <jmichaelx> wesley: if you are a super coder and have months/years or free time to work on it
[22:31] <wesley> lol i only have idea´s i cant work them out
[22:32] <jmichaelx> of free time*
[22:33] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: I don't think it would take that long :)
[22:33] <wesley> But about those screensavers wouldnt be bad idea to import them in Linux?
[22:33] <DaSkreech> Google may have no incentive to make a linux port but they do have incentive to help people who are doing so
[22:33] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: for one guy, i would think it would take a good while... maybe not
[22:34] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: If you do that you would get help from Google
[22:34] <DaSkreech> It wouldnt be a one man job
[22:35] <wesley> You guys think it would be good idea to order a wish for screensaver import wich supports Mac osx screensavers? or windows
[22:36] <DaSkreech> wesley: no harm in trying but that's probably something to throw at the X crew first
[22:36] <wesley> I can just file a wish at kde.org ?
[22:37] <DaSkreech> yes
[22:37] <wesley> Why would it be only Linux have to be where we can not say oh i want a screensaver from my favorite series
[22:37] <DaSkreech> but as I said X would get you wider usage and interest
[22:37] <unimatrix> is there a repo for kde4.2 ?
[22:37] <wesley> What you mean with X? i only filled wishes on kde.org bugs
[22:39] <wesley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ look thats in the file wich is by the screensaver
[22:40] <wesley> and it seems its uses java
[22:41] <wesley> where do i play swf files with ?
[22:41] <jmichaelx> by the way, i have the same issue with digikam that someone was mentioning earlier. if i try to install it, kde-addons and other packages get removed
[22:42] <jmichaelx> in kde4.2, that is
[22:43] <unimatrix> found the answer myself: project-neon
[22:44] <wesley> kde-nightly doesnt let me see the menu entries
[22:44] <jmichaelx> wesley: there are many video players you can play .swf files in, if you have the proper multimedia codecs installed
[22:44] <jmichaelx> !codecs | wesley
[22:45] <wesley> wich player would you advice, my favorite one is vlc
[22:46] <eagles0513875> !games
[22:46] <jmichaelx> wesley: there are many to choose from. it is all about your personal likings. vlc is fine, or mplayer, or kaffeine or smplayer... and on and on
[22:46] <wesley> but dont i need a addon on vlc
[22:46] <jmichaelx> wesley: not that i know of
[22:47] <wesley> i have now the swf files from the screensaver
[22:48] <DaSkreech> unimatrix: See topic
[22:48] <wesley> and fSavStb java files ?
[22:53] <wesley> Going add my idea at kde
[22:54] <wesley> think i draw a little screen what i have in mins
[22:54] <pavel_> #kubuntu-es
[22:58] <estres> #ubuntu-es
[23:01] <wesley> DaSkreech where can i post my idea best? on kde-look ? or kde bugs ?
[23:01] <DaSkreech> kde-look I would think
[23:03] <wesley> And what about kde- bugs ?
[23:04] <DaSkreech> You can submit but I'd expect much less of a reaction there
[23:04] <DaSkreech> xscreensaver would probably get more interest as I said
[23:05] <DaSkreech> Kscreensaver is a wrappper for xscreensaver so it would get into KDE if it gets into X
[23:05] <wesley> okay but its more like a addon for the screensaver setting
[23:08] <eagles0513875> what packages do i need to have installed to compile from source
[23:08] <eagles0513875> !source
[23:08] <ANEX> sudo apt-get install <package name>
[23:09] <eagles0513875> i know how to get the source but if im not mistake there are some dev pkgs i need to have installed does anyone know what they are
[23:10] <ANEX> wouldn't that be in the g++ packages
[23:11] <Adola> !logic
[23:11] <ANEX> lol
[23:11] <eagles0513875> Adola ?
[23:11] <eagles0513875> !info logic
[23:11] <eagles0513875> lol
[23:12] <eagles0513875> !compiling
[23:12] <Adola> No, I just wanted him to say he doesn't know anything about logic!
[23:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[23:12] <eagles0513875> who me or the bot
[23:12] <Adola> AOHHH<AHAHAHAH, I seee what you did WHOOPS!
[23:12] <Adola> AHAHAH
[23:12] <eagles0513875> Adola https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[23:13] <ANEX> c++ is ok. Really cool if you could do somthing like VB for linux
[23:14] <jschall> what's the best package to install kde4 on regular ubuntu? i don't want to change the splash screen or the login screen.
[23:14] <jschall> pretty sure kubuntu-desktop does that
[23:14] <wesley> you know the Guys my kde-look account is Kenichi
[23:15] <ANEX> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <eagles0513875> ANEX what i wanna try is there something new that i would like ot use instead of gcc which is supposedly lighter and better then that
[23:16] <isleshocky77> I started ktorrent.  It's running but the icon disappeared from the system tray.  Is there a way for me to put the icon back or open the window without killing the process and restarting it?
[23:16] <jschall> ANEX: kubuntu-desktop would replace the splash and login screen
[23:16] <ANEX> the only othr thing i can think of is g++ and thats still a little edgy
[23:16] <eagles0513875> that link had what i was looking for
[23:19] <DaSkreech> jschall: The kernel changes the splashscreen
[23:29] <ANEX> not much to talk about
[23:30] <DaSkreech> good thing for a support chan :)
[23:30] <Cannon> could somebody help me fix my sound please?
[23:30] <Cannon> i dunno where to start :(
[23:30] <DaSkreech> !sound
[23:31] <Cannon> lol, i looked for that checkbox earlier
[23:31] <Cannon> it doesn't exist :P
[23:32] <Cannon> i get sounds in startup and kopete
[23:32] <Cannon> but no other apps like music and video playback
[23:34] <wesley> DaSkreech do you think something like a screensaver would be hard to convert or import for kde
[23:34] <wesley> ?
[23:35]  * dr_willis rembers the days when screensavers actually saved the screen
[23:37] <ricardo_> hola a todos
[23:39] <DaSkreech> wesley: and do properly yes
[23:39] <DaSkreech> hola
[23:40] <ricardo_> de donde eres
[23:40] <DaSkreech> !es
[23:41] <wesley> i mean i am just a normal user, but i dont see why a option like that should be bad idea
[23:43] <digitalnorm> can anybody help a brother out with some rhythmbox bulshit?
[23:44] <DaSkreech> wesley: The option isn't a bad idea the implementation of it may be
[23:44] <digitalnorm> por favor
[23:44] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[23:44] <digitalnorm> sorry
[23:44] <Adola> !ohmy
[23:44] <Adola> Coo!
[23:44] <wesley> DaSkreech, then a convert option? but there on the moment also no option to import linux screensavers
[23:45] <DaSkreech> digitalnorm: Wat's the problem? And really #ubuntu is the chan you should be looking at
[23:45] <DaSkreech> wesley: import linux screensavers into windows?
[23:46] <dr_willis> There is a collection of glscreensavers i recall for linux and windows.
[23:46] <wesley> Why would people want that import linux screensavers in Windows
[23:46]  * dr_willis imports 'data'  :) not screensavers
[23:47] <wesley> but i meant there no import option for screensavers
[23:47] <dr_willis> the idea of 'importing' a binary/executable... is a tad.. err.. incorrect.. I guess...
[23:47] <digitalnorm> daskreech- my music is invisible. if i look where a music file properties tell me it is, it isn't there
[23:47] <dr_willis> screensaver is just a executable with some special features.. I guess.
[23:48] <digitalnorm> after i moved it with rb import
[23:48] <DaSkreech> wesley: You said there is no option to import linux screensavers. I guess that means you are importing them to something which is not linux
[23:48] <wesley> I unpacked the osx one and much files are not in the map
[23:48] <DaSkreech> digitalnorm: Did you install the gstreamer-bad and -ugly packages ?
[23:48] <wesley> DaSkreech sorry no i meant kde4
[23:48] <digitalnorm> das- no
[23:49] <digitalnorm> unless package manager didi it
[23:49] <DaSkreech> wesley: again the KDE screensaver is simply a wrapper for xscreensavers so if you get xscreensavers to import then everyone gets it for free and you would get people from X Gnome E and KDE looking at it
[23:49] <DaSkreech> digitalnorm: you might need those
[23:51] <wesley> But where do i put it wich site ?
[23:55] <wesley> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/screensaver+import+in+kde4+%5Bidea%5D?content=94476 my first idea :)
[23:56] <DaSkreech> wesley: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
[23:56] <wesley> 2 places is way better then one
[23:57]  * DaSkreech laughs. Much to learn little one :)
[23:57] <wesley> what is firefox a shitty browser with its certificate warnings of danger
[23:57] <wesley> Yeah lets hope i may become web admin
[23:58] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | wesley
[23:58] <dr_willis> Its bad because it warns?
[23:59] <wesley> yes, its says about the freedesktop site that the site can be dangerous
[23:59] <dr_willis> Sounds like the site needs to do some work and update their certificate
[23:59] <dr_willis> or the site has been haxored.
[23:59] <dr_willis> :)
[23:59] <DaSkreech> wesley: That's a good thing in general. Read the certificate to see who signed it