pochu | kees: woops, I forgot the changelog "SECURITY UPDATE" magic | 00:01 |
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pitti | kirkland: retroactively done :) | 00:06 |
pitti | bryce: saw it, thanks a lot | 00:06 |
pitti | bryce: in other news, are you already aware of the "X doesn't lock Alt+Fn for VT switching any more" bug, or shall I file one? | 00:06 |
kirkland | pitti: sorry, please clarify... are you waiting on me to fix that detect-if-eryptfs-installed error? | 00:08 |
kirkland | pitti: or did you do that yourself? | 00:08 |
bryce | pitti: file please | 00:08 |
bryce | pitti: but mostly just been looking at X crash bug reports of late | 00:09 |
pitti | bryce: alright, will do | 00:09 |
pitti | kirkland: I was actually waiting for you | 00:09 |
pitti | kirkland: you can probably test it quicker than me | 00:09 |
bryce | pitti: btw at UDS I'd like to sit down with you and maybe jesse or alex and try to sort out getting the x signal handling stuff working | 00:09 |
pitti | bryce: oh yes, that would be nice | 00:09 |
pitti | bryce: done in bug 305641 | 00:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 305641 in xorg-server "[jaunty] Does not lock Alt+Fn, now switches VT" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305641 | 00:15 |
directhex | dum de dum, /me waits for test build | 00:20 |
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mathiaz | cr3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/ServerInstall | 00:34 |
pochu | kees: jwendell (upstream for vinagre) has just told me there's a CVE for the vulnerability, but it's not public yet: it will be made public this Tuesday | 00:39 |
Caesar | Where can I find pre-Dapper versions of Ubuntu? | 00:39 |
pochu | kees: I've added a debdiff for Intrepid, btw. I'll look at Jaunty tomorrow | 00:39 |
Caesar | I'm trying to track down a regression in the alternate installer | 00:39 |
directhex | Caesar, there's a domain... oldreleases.ubuntu.com or similar | 00:39 |
directhex | http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ | 00:40 |
Caesar | directhex: terrific, thanks | 00:40 |
Caesar | Damn, no APT repo, just ISOs? | 00:41 |
pochu | that's what (old-)releases.ubuntu.com is for, yes | 00:42 |
kees | pochu: weird, they got a private CVE, but committed the fix in a public repo? | 00:43 |
pochu | kees: looks like, yes | 00:43 |
kees | okay, well, ask them if they want us to make the bug private and wait until Tuesday to release? | 00:44 |
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ScottK-laptop | If the code is already pubilshed ... | 00:44 |
Caesar | pochu: but where do I get the source from for these old releases? | 00:45 |
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Caesar | nm, I see it | 00:45 |
Caesar | Lucky I have a fat pipe | 00:46 |
Caesar | Is the alternate installer in bzr or svn somewhere? | 00:52 |
directhex | d-i? | 00:53 |
Caesar | Yes | 00:53 |
Caesar | But the Ubuntu modifications made | 00:53 |
Caesar | Found it | 00:54 |
kees | (sorry, I didn't name hilight you earlier) pochu: can you ask them if they want us to make the bug private and wait until Tuesday to release? | 00:57 |
pochu | kees: sure | 00:58 |
kees | pochu: thx :) | 00:58 |
pochu | np ;) | 00:58 |
pochu | kees: he tells me we don't need to, as the bug fix is already on the public svn repo | 01:00 |
kees | pochu: cool, in that case, can you get the CVE from him and add it to the bug? :) | 01:01 |
pochu | kees: as in, it would be pointless as we wouldn't be hidding the important bits | 01:01 |
mathiaz | cr3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81125/ | 01:01 |
pochu | kees: he doesn't know if he's allowed to tell me the #id | 01:01 |
kees | hah okay, nm, we'll attach it after Tuesday | 01:02 |
kees | pochu: ^^ | 01:02 |
pochu | kees: it's his first CVE -> he's a good maintainer who doesn't make lots of security bugs ;) | 01:02 |
pochu | kees: ok, I'll keep an eye on it | 01:02 |
* kees nods | 01:02 | |
cr3 | mathiaz: w3m http://127.0.0.1/ | 01:02 |
pochu | kees: thanks again for your guidance :) | 01:03 |
pochu | good night all | 01:03 |
kees | g'night pochu :) np | 01:03 |
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YokoZar | Just to let everyone know, you will probably get a nasty cold at UDS if you haven't had one already :) | 02:48 |
YokoZar | It's "going around" | 02:48 |
calc | YokoZar: yea i think i have it now, i thought it was some weird hangover effect from last night | 04:01 |
* desrt seeks seb | 05:09 | |
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calc | desrt: seb is in the hotel lobby i think | 05:38 |
calc | desrt: well seb128 anyway | 05:38 |
tonyyarusso | Hey, if pitti, Keybuk, or evand are around, I was just curious what came out of https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/encrypted-filesystems, as it's still marked as "Not started", but I thought maybe at least some of it had been done... | 06:22 |
calc | tonyyarusso: there has been some discussion of it at FOSSCamp i think, not sure what the status is though | 06:32 |
calc | tonyyarusso: well i think it was about that, looking at the blueprint now | 06:32 |
calc | tonyyarusso: oh hmm i'm not sure if it is the same thing i heard about today | 06:33 |
calc | it doesn't appear to be targeted for jaunty though | 06:33 |
tonyyarusso | Specifically, it would rock if Bug #139057: | 06:33 |
tonyyarusso | This report is public | 06:33 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 139057 in cryptsetup "Should try given password for next partition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139057 | 06:33 |
tonyyarusso | and Bug #155987 were / have been addressed | 06:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 155987 in partman-crypto "Installer doesn't support mounting existing encryption volumes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155987 | 06:34 |
chris062689 | What is most of the GNOME Suite / Programs (Transmission, Games, Movie Player) written in? Python or C? | 08:13 |
Keybuk | C | 08:16 |
wgrant | And they seem to have afinity to JavaScript. | 08:17 |
chris062689 | Where the heck did I see they were written in python... | 08:18 |
wgrant | We like Python here. GNOME doesn't. | 08:18 |
chris062689 | Ah | 08:18 |
chris062689 | I just wish GNOME seemed.. more advanced. Many options are hidden from us.. | 08:18 |
chris062689 | I don't like running an IdiotOS :P | 08:19 |
chris062689 | *Idiot-proof OS | 08:19 |
walters | no; python is fine available platform for writing applications, and there are quite a number of them | 08:19 |
chris062689 | So if I wrote something in python, it would have a lesser chance to make it upstream than a C package? | 08:19 |
walters | upstream in what? | 08:20 |
chris062689 | I want to begin developing programs to help Ubuntu / GNOME in general, I just don't know if I should wait until after "GNOME 3.0" when everything will supposedly be cleaned up and rewritten for efficiency (right?) | 08:20 |
walters | we're not rewriting much | 08:21 |
walters | no no need to wait to do anything =) just write your app | 08:21 |
chris062689 | I'm not really talking about Ubuntu-itself rewriting these things | 08:21 |
chris062689 | The GNOME project; GNOME 3.0, is esentially what KDE 4 was for KDE, cleaning up code, making it cleaner, more efficient, right? | 08:22 |
walters | that's been an ongoing process for as long as GNOME has existed | 08:22 |
walters | what we hope to do for 3.0 is improve the user experience | 08:23 |
chris062689 | Well, from what I've seen / heard (which is probably FUD) that GNOME (GTK) is rather... messy to write with | 08:23 |
chris062689 | true statement? :O | 08:25 |
walters | there's a learning curve for the core platform for sure, and we do want to improve that; there are a lot of aspects to that | 08:25 |
chris062689 | Well yeah, learning curve of course, but I'm talking about more cleanability / "easy on the eyes" code. | 08:26 |
walters | anyways i wouldn't get caught up in the meta questions - if you have a dream just go for it, dive in | 08:26 |
chris062689 | Do you happen to have any Tutorials for C and GNOME? | 08:27 |
chris062689 | I'd rather write my GNOME apps in C (just simply because it's more "accepted" in GNOME territory lol) | 08:27 |
walters | i would start out with pygtk | 08:28 |
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cliffbreaker | hi everyone. Try to build a package from source and it gives an error (when using debuild -S -sa) - make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. How can I fix it? | 11:22 |
azeem | cliffbreaker: that question is more on topic in #ubuntu-motu | 11:24 |
cliffbreaker | azeem: ok, I'm sorry, just didn't know where to go to | 11:24 |
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sidd | hi, does any one know why fiesty is not a part of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ ? | 12:00 |
wgrant | sidd: Feisty is obsolete. | 12:00 |
directhex | sidd, because feisty is EOL? | 12:00 |
Hobbsee | sidd: because it's unsupported? | 12:00 |
directhex | try old-releases.ubuntu.com | 12:00 |
sidd | okay, wgrant, directhex, hobbsee, i had a single dvd for ubuntu, my first :) and now i want to upgrade to gutsy. voila, it fails because fiesty is not there :) | 12:01 |
sidd | directhex: thanks. that works. | 12:04 |
directhex | upgrade to gutsy? that's a long term goal if ever i saw one ._. | 12:04 |
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yao_ziyuan | ubunbu better rename its default theme as "Outdoors Laptop Use" and its "DarkRoom" as "Indoors" | 12:28 |
yao_ziyuan | and i strongly recommend Murrine + X-Colors as the default theme. | 12:28 |
yao_ziyuan | fedora already takes nodoka, aurora has problems with firefox, and murrine is the best left | 12:29 |
yao_ziyuan | my murrine desktop: http://i33.tinypic.com/2cbuhg.png | 12:30 |
yao_ziyuan | my murrine apps: http://i38.tinypic.com/rkpzy9.png | 12:30 |
* Hobbsee waves to sivang | 12:38 | |
sivang | hey Hobbsee ! | 12:39 |
Hobbsee | how goes it? | 12:39 |
sivang | Hobbsee: it'll be good eventually :) | 12:39 |
Hobbsee | :) | 12:39 |
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ryanhaigh | hi all, i have a problem with hardy that is fixed in the intrepid kernel. i have asked on the normal support channel and i have been told to install linux backports modules hardy but before i go trying to do that i would like to understand what this package actually is because the kernel version they apply to is 2.6.24, I checked the description but it isn't very complete, is there somewhere else i can look? | 13:53 |
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pochu | kees: just added the vinagre update for jaunty, will you be able to upload it, or shall I look for an sponsor? | 17:08 |
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pitti | tonyyarusso: it's kind of obsoleted by ecryptfs; kirkland is doing an awesome job of integrating this very nicely into jaunty | 18:18 |
calc | pitti: ping | 18:28 |
* StevenK prods calc in the back, just because he can. | 18:28 | |
calc | does apt-get in jaunty auto install recommends? | 18:29 |
dholbach | calc: yes, it did in intrepid already | 18:29 |
calc | i'm noticing some packages are getting installed for OOo build-dep that probably don't need to be | 18:29 |
calc | dholbach: how do i disable that for a particular apt-get run? | 18:29 |
dholbach | apt-get --no-install-recommends <bla> | 18:30 |
dholbach | man apt-get :) | 18:30 |
calc | thanks :) | 18:30 |
* calc ran apt-get -h but apparently its not good enough, heh | 18:30 | |
* StevenK waits for locale-gen on armel | 18:31 | |
calc | pitti: is there a template MIR bug report that I could use? | 18:46 |
calc | reduced the list to 17 source packages :) | 18:51 |
calc | pitti: ah i found the wiki page about it :) | 18:53 |
kirkland | evand: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/81501/ | 18:53 |
calc | pitti: here? | 18:54 |
calc | StevenK: so should i just file the ubuntu-mir bug against OOo then? | 18:55 |
StevenK | calc: Personally, I would find pitti in person, and have a 5 minute conversation. :-) | 18:57 |
calc | StevenK: yea sounds good | 18:58 |
amikrop | In what file are there the configuration rules for apt-get bash autocompletion? | 19:25 |
RainCT | Ampelbein: /etc/bash_completion | 19:35 |
RainCT | err sorry, that was for amikrop | 19:35 |
nxvl | ogra: can you add a copyright and versioning (in a readme file or something) to usb-creator? | 19:40 |
ogra | usb-imagewriter you mean :) | 19:41 |
nxvl | right | 19:41 |
pwnguin | anyone know if evolution-mapi has a package yet? | 19:41 |
ogra | i'll add a script to dump the bzr changelog into a file | 19:42 |
nxvl | that works | 19:42 |
nxvl | i've versioned it as 0.1 | 19:42 |
nxvl | but i need a copyright | 19:42 |
nxvl | a license actually | 19:42 |
ogra | there is a sourcepackage in my PPA | 19:42 |
* sebner asks himself if he should write nxvl an email :P | 19:43 | |
ogra | that should have a copyright | 19:43 |
nxvl | got it | 19:43 |
ogra | sebner: it's the communication system of the future | 19:43 |
ogra | :p | 19:44 |
sebner | ogra: hahaha :P | 19:44 |
nxvl | sebner: e-mail works better usually | 19:45 |
nxvl | sebner: but take the same time :D | 19:45 |
sebner | nxvl: but messages on IRC are easier to ignore/forget than mails :P | 19:45 |
nxvl | sebner: yup | 19:46 |
nxvl | sebner: that's why i said that works better | 19:46 |
sebner | nxvl: And if that doesn't help there is something like "mailbombs" :P | 19:47 |
nxvl | yeah, that will make you win a filter | 19:47 |
nxvl | :D | 19:47 |
sebner | heh | 19:47 |
kees | pochu: sure, one sec | 19:49 |
kees | pochu: actually, since 2.24.2-1 is in Debian, is there a reason we don't just merge from Debian (instead of uploading a -0ubuntu1 version?) | 19:54 |
pochu | kees: that it's been uploaded a few minutes ago :) | 19:55 |
pochu | kees: I'll merge it | 19:55 |
kees | pochu: sure, but I mean it seems like less work that way. :) | 19:55 |
kees | pochu: also, I noticed you dropped lool from the Uploaders in both intrepid and jaunty (not that it matters for Ubuntu) | 19:55 |
seb128 | kees: the uploaders list is dynamically built using the recent changelog entries | 19:56 |
kees | oh! hah. | 19:56 |
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kirkland | evand: so we'd need to add ecryptfs.ko kernel module to the installer kernel modules | 20:13 |
kirkland | evand: i added a linux task to bug #302870 | 20:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 302870 in user-setup "add support for setting up encrypted home directory on user creation" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302870 | 20:13 |
kirkland | evand: i manually copied the .ko file into the installing system, insmod'd it | 20:14 |
kirkland | evand: but i can't get the mount established in the installer | 20:14 |
kirkland | "Unable to get the version number of the kernel module....." | 20:14 |
evand | kirkland: not sure | 20:20 |
pochu | kees: thanks for the uploads :) | 20:26 |
* pochu prepares the jaunty one | 20:26 | |
pochu | kees: I don't need to mention "SECURITY UPDATE", nor do I need to upload to jaunty-security for the jaunty one, right? | 20:27 |
kees | pochu: nah, it's a new upstream version. normally, if the CVE# was known, it's nice to add that to the changelog, like a bug#. | 20:27 |
pochu | ok | 20:28 |
pochu | I'll have to wait until it appears on the pool, as it's now gone from incoming :) | 20:32 |
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pochu | kees: merge done, debdiff attached to the bug report | 22:42 |
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StevenK | pitti: Remember that schroot failureness on armel? It ICE's with -O1 too | 23:17 |
glick | excuse me, for kernel dev on ubuntu what do i need to install? | 23:20 |
Syke1 | glick: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile | 23:22 |
Chipzz | glick: ot here; please read the topic | 23:23 |
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TheMuso | Yay for a tarball in tarball package with a watch file, which seems useless, since afaik uscan cannot re-create the tarball in tarball setup. | 23:32 |
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