[00:19] <scotepi> so what do i need to do to get avi and mkv's workin in media player? i see em, but i get loading.... for about 50% of the length of the file and nothing
[00:19] <scotepi> is it anything like actuly getting AMD drivers working?
[00:29] <abarbaccia> how big are the files
[00:29] <abarbaccia> and what bitrate
[00:29] <abarbaccia> and how fast is ur machine
[00:33] <scotepi> comps is 2.4ghz x2, 2gb ram.. the files are the 1.1GB or 350mb varity
[00:34] <scotepi> vlc can play them fine, mplayer gives me invalid vo (i was trying over vnc, havent tried localy yet
[00:34] <scotepi> but now my backend isnt starting up, it was working fine last night, all i can think of is my cable box is off
[00:36] <scotepi> dont say mythbackend is tied to host names ><
[00:36] <abarbaccia> it is
[00:36] <abarbaccia> the settings table distinguishes between machines based on hostname
[00:40] <scotepi> ok, now to why videos wont play
[00:40] <abarbaccia> look at the logs
[00:42] <scotepi> should mkv/avi work out of the box? i installed all the codecs i could select in the mythconfig.. why does one need to isntall 1 set then install another set..
[00:44] <scotepi> http://rafb.net/p/PVZR2G25.html
[00:45] <scotepi> CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ (Family: 15, Model: 35, Stepping: 2)
[00:45] <scotepi> CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
[00:45] <abarbaccia> what drivers are you using?
[00:46] <scotepi> AMD
[00:46] <abarbaccia> the catalyst drivers?
[00:46] <abarbaccia> and can you verify they are loading properly
[00:46] <scotepi> i had to activate them since picking them didnt activate them by default
[00:46] <abarbaccia> sounds sketchy
[00:46] <scotepi> yes fglrxinfo says its using ati
[00:46] <scotepi> gona try xvinfo now
[00:47] <scotepi> screen #0: no adapter present
[00:47] <abarbaccia> are the other drivers still loaded
[00:47] <scotepi> nope
[00:48] <abarbaccia> mmm very odd
[00:48] <abarbaccia> alright im gonna nap in preparation for tonight
[00:48] <abarbaccia> best of luck scotepi
[00:48] <scotepi> could a software update disable them?
[00:48] <abarbaccia> sure if u upgrade the kernel
[00:56] <scotepi> ok.. with ATI drivers loads my mythtv front end screen is like doubled.. its 2 screens side by side on one, even though using vnc it looks normal
[01:09] <PMantis> Hello. I just installed a new Mytbuntu 8.10 64 bit frontend ONLY machine. It was working great. Then, I ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, rebooted. Now, mythfrontend ran in a terminal shows an error trying to open /dev/mixer.
[01:09] <PMantis> So, I placed my auto-login user into the "audio" group, and logged out, back in, still no audio.
[01:38] <PMantis> I rebooted into the original kernel, and still no audio.
[02:17] <yotux> anyone use keyspan remote
[03:59] <blahrus_> ?
[03:59] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: yt?
[04:00] <foxbuntu> define: there?
[04:00] <foxbuntu> ;)
[04:00] <blahrus_> hahah
[04:00] <blahrus_> I can't get windows or any linux, vga, or hdmi to do 720p . . .
[04:00] <blahrus_> am I going crazy?
[04:01] <foxbuntu> nope
[04:01] <foxbuntu> what model is your TV?
[04:02] <blahrus_> let me get the model
[04:02] <blahrus_> insignia 37"
[04:02] <foxbuntu> which model though
[04:02] <blahrus_> ns32-lcd
[04:02] <blahrus_> maybe it;s just a 32 :)
[04:04] <blahrus_> right now vista ulimtate is installed, can I can't get anything better than 1024x768
[04:05] <foxbuntu> you should be able to push 1360x768
[04:05] <blahrus_> http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=2963
[04:05] <blahrus_> that;s the board I got
[04:06] <blahrus_> just got the new intel drivers, and network card
[04:06] <blahrus_> ones that came on the cd didn't work :(
[04:06] <foxbuntu> how is windows detecting it via VGA?
[04:08] <blahrus_> generic pnp monitor
[04:08] <foxbuntu> and 1024x768 is all the higher windows will let you set it?
[04:09] <blahrus_> yes sir
[04:12] <foxbuntu> hmm
[04:13] <foxbuntu> try it with the 8.10 live disk
[04:13] <blahrus_> kk, will have to download that
[04:13] <foxbuntu> see what resolutions it will let you use
[04:13] <blahrus_> wait maybe I got it
[04:13] <blahrus_> 1 sec
[04:14] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: cd is burning, then will try to boot it with VGA
[04:15] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:19] <blahrus_> boot up live mode?
[04:19] <foxbuntu> yes
[04:21] <blahrus_> it's going
[04:21] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, further testing of the X4500 is on my list for the weekend, if I figure out something with it expect it on the Wiki soon as well :)
[04:21] <blahrus_> oh wow
[04:21] <blahrus_> the antec case
[04:21] <blahrus_> once I installed the drives in windows
[04:21] <blahrus_> it now shows the time on the display
[04:23] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: it's giving no signal on the screen
[04:23] <blahrus_> I believe this happend in the regular 8.10 as well when I tired it on a different system, intell chipset though
[04:23] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, thats strange, it worked fine for me
[04:24] <blahrus_> the 9.04 beta works thought
[04:26] <blahrus_> booting that again
[04:29] <blahrus_> looks like it did 1280 x 960
[04:29] <blahrus_> or it's trying too
[04:30] <blahrus_> yea it tired
[04:30] <blahrus_> I just changed it to 1360x768, but my screen's tv flash 1280x768
[04:31] <blahrus_> but in display preferences, it's set to 1360x768
[04:31] <blahrus_> which is right :) ?
[04:31] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: ^
[04:31] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, seems good to me
[04:32] <foxbuntu> blahrus_, thats the res for 720p
[04:32] <blahrus_> 1360x768 ?
[04:32] <foxbuntu> yes
[04:32] <foxbuntu> its the PC translated 720p
[04:33] <blahrus_> ohh, so I guess I should assume the TV is wrong when it says 1280x768, and ubunutu says 1280x768 ?
[04:34] <kees> weird.  after upgrading to Intrepid, my mythfrontend sometimes ignores keypresses for 15-45 seconds before processing them.  anyone else seen this?
[04:35] <blahrus_> kees: wish I could get 8.10 to boot up, or I would help :)
[04:35] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, hadn't thought about it, but it does seem like that is happening sometimes here
[04:35] <tgm4883_laptop> I sluffed it off as being the backend recordings
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> blahrus_, 1280x768 - 16:10   1360x768 - 16:9
[04:36] <tgm4883_laptop> iirc
[04:37] <blahrus_> tgm4883_laptop: I guess just not sure why TV says one thing, ubuntu says another :)
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> what?
[04:37] <blahrus_> freaking windows wouldn't even give me a 1360x768 option
 ohh, so I guess I should assume the TV is wrong when it says 1280x768, and ubunutu says 1280x768 ?
[04:38] <blahrus_> tgm4883_laptop: when I changed the rez from something to 1360x768, the tv flash the rez is changing to, and it says 1280x768
[04:38] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: it's driving me insane.  I can't reproduce it reliably, and I have _tons_ of CPU left.
[04:39] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, yea I haven't looked into it that much as I have more important things on my mind.
[04:40]  * kees nods
[04:58] <blahrus_> looks liek it's playing right
[04:58] <blahrus_> at leat the 720p mkv I got
[04:58] <blahrus_> but no sound
[04:58] <blahrus_> yet :()
[05:00] <blahrus_> bed for the night, mess with it more tomorrow.
[05:00] <blahrus_> tks
[05:00] <blahrus_> later
[05:34] <kees> hrmp
[05:35] <kees> when I zoom, Xorg hits 100% cpu.  :(
[05:35] <kees> and I'm using XvMC, so I wouldn't expect that...
[06:37] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: ah-ha, use of Bob 2x while zoomed seems to crush my CPU, so I switched to Yadif, and all is well.
[09:24] <NetSarC> hello in here
[09:30] <NetSarC> i'm doing a bit research before i start building my first mythtv setup
[09:30] <NetSarC> i want to have a big backend server with dvb-s / dvb-s2 cards
[09:30] <NetSarC> 3 or 4
[09:31] <NetSarC> and some frontends which can play full hd
[09:31] <NetSarC> the first trouble i have, is to find the right dvb-s2 card
[09:33] <NetSarC> any suggestions? i need to be able to control my diseq switch also
[09:33] <NetSarC> i'm looking a bit at Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2
[10:53] <Muskie> Hiyo
[10:56] <Muskie> allright, I'm a reasonably good hand at linux, but a complete noob at mythTV and media centre working. should i play it safe and go for 8.10, or try the 9.04 alpha?
[10:57] <laga> go for 8.10
[11:00] <Muskie> thanks. will download it now.
[11:01] <Muskie> okay, second question :P
[11:02] <Muskie> since it's all set up, and i REALLTY don't wanna be lugging a CRT form my back room, it's all hooked into a standard TV.
[11:03] <Muskie> will the standard installer display in PAL60, or should I get the alternate?
[13:14] <Muskie> ...great. The Mythbuntu project lead is Anti-ATI. guess i've got fat chance finding official howtos aon getting my X600 doing TV-out then.. :P
[13:16] <Muskie> Finally had to lug out my old CRT and do an install from there. haven't finished installing it yet, so I'll check if it just works out of the box first before complaining to an IRC help chat. XD
[14:21] <Muskie> Allrighty then. the base mythbuntu system is working.. little buggy on the tv-out side of things, but i'm sure I can figure that out. Now, how do i set up my TV card (DVB-T300) to work with this?
[15:07] <destructar> hi. i'm running mythbuntu 8.04 backend with static ip. I have apache2 running. ping localhost fails with 100% packet loss, although other machines can ping the backend
[15:08] <destructar> i've done loads of research on this and can't find the issue
[18:16] <wilberfan> I've noticed (since the last major updates) that my .avi's take 15 seconds to load now...
[18:16] <wilberfan> used to happen in 1 or 2 seconds
[18:16] <wilberfan> anyone else experiencing this?
[18:29] <sabhain> !help
[18:29] <Zinn> !help Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[18:29] <sabhain> !diskless
[18:29] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about diskless
[18:29] <sabhain> !tftp
[18:29] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about tftp
[18:29] <sabhain> !pxe
[18:29] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about pxe
[18:30] <sabhain> !life
[18:30] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about life
[18:32] <Muskie> funny.
[18:33] <Muskie> tried the forums or the Wiki? they seem to be better than the chat.
[19:07] <rtc443> hello everyone i was just wondering what would be a great tv capture card, i have looked at the list but can't decide, can you record basic cable, like recording tv shows, thanks a bunch and srry for the noob question
[19:12] <Muskie> rtc: basiaclly any tv card you get will be supported with a little work.
[19:13] <Muskie> I'd reccommend  COMPRO's Range myself, since that's what i use, but I'm actally having a little trouble gettign it going. :P
[19:14] <Muskie> http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/MythTV has a range of supported cards that will work fine out of the box.
[19:14] <rtc443> ok cool i am just getting a desktop so i can record tv shows when im not home, keep an ssh tunnel open, and other mis stuff
[19:14] <rtc443> im going to be using dual 2,5ghz, do u think thats enough
[19:14] <rtc443> and 1tb for storage
[19:16] <rtc443> ya i have been spending alot of time lookig through mythbuntu, looks great
[19:17] <rtc443> thanks for ur help
[19:20] <Muskie> nice.
[19:21] <Muskie> honestly, yu don't need such a high end rig
[19:21] <Muskie> unless you're goign to be transcoding Multiple HD streams around to 10 different frontends XD
[19:22] <Muskie> 1tb is good for storage though, makes sure you've got plenty of space for stuff you want to record.
[19:23] <Muskie> a single-core 1.5ghz processor is more than decent enough to record stuff while you're away, and send it to you if you're the only one using it. 2ghz if you want to do HD, jsut to make sure.
[19:23] <rtc443> ya i have been wanting a 1tb for awhile(hate deleting things) so for the prices now
[19:23] <Muskie> it's overkill, but meh, hwo am i to complain XD
[19:25] <rtc443> ya ok cool, i wasnt sure, i know video transcoding and all are processor intensive, but this is good now less money spent
[19:26] <Muskie> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html
[19:26] <rtc443> just to make sure u can record cable tv right, are ther restrictions
[19:27] <Muskie> shouldn't be, as long as your tuner supports it.
[19:28] <Muskie> if your rig doesen't need a scrambler or anything  you SHOULD be fine.
[19:28] <Muskie> but since I've never done cable, I wouldn't know.
[19:28] <Muskie> might want to hit up the forums and ask about people
[19:28] <Muskie> s experiences with your particulr cable provilder, and what tuners support it
[19:29] <rtc443> well i know i get IO cable so as long as i can record atleast the lower channels, history, discovery it will be fine
[19:30] <Muskie> IO?
[19:31] <rtc443> optimum online
[19:31] <Muskie> who's your current provider, I could do a quick google search for tuners that support them while my tuner drivers com,pile :P
[19:32] <rtc443> ok cool my current cable provider is optimum online
[19:34] <rtc443> also if u dont mind what do u think would be better http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Hauppauge-WinTV-HVR-1600-Hybrid-Video-Recorder-1199/sem/rpsm/oid/201496/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do orhttp://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Hauppauge-WinTV-HVR-1250-Hybrid-Video-Recorder-1196/sem/rpsm/oid/204447/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
[19:36] <Muskie> the 1600
[19:36] <Muskie> it has the IR blaster you'll need
[19:37] <Muskie> basically, to view the encrypted channels, etc, you'll still have to plug it into the cable box
[19:37] <Muskie> the IR blaster goes on front of the box and lets you change channels on the cable box using the remote you get with the TV card.
[19:39] <Muskie> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1600
[19:39] <Muskie> there's some info on getting the system to work
[19:39] <Muskie> apparently it's a bit of a resource hog when viewing HDTV, so you may actually want to get that 2.5ghz dual core, actually..
[19:40] <Muskie> also, a half-decent video card (like an ld-skool Geforce 7000 series or a radeon x60 ot 700) should be put in as well
[19:41] <Muskie> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_hvr-1600 more stuff on getting the 1600 working
[19:44] <rtc443> ok cool well i already had the dual 2,5ghz in my budget so not bad
[19:45] <Muskie> heh
[19:46] <rtc443> i was hoping i would have parts and an old pc around but i dont so i might just buy somesort of dell just cuz its cheap
[19:46] <rtc443> like an inspiron 530
[19:46] <Muskie> should work. just be careful of what you get
[19:47] <rtc443> ya wut should i look out for thats bad
[19:48] <rtc443> i also have a monitor so i dont have to buy onw
[19:49] <Muskie> honestly, it's still technically cheaper to buy the parts and build it yourself
[19:50] <Muskie> or go to a real computer shop and get one custom-built for youur needs
[19:50] <rtc443> ya i was also thinking of that
[19:51] <rtc443> the only thing im not fluent in is motherboards and processors everything else i know
[19:54] <rtc443> ATI Radeon HD3650 256MB would that be ok for  video card, not that great but honestly im cheap lol
[19:55] <Muskie> gadzooks
[19:55] <Muskie> if you think that's cheap, buy me one!
[19:55] <Muskie> but yeah, go ahead. should do you fine
[19:56] <rtc443> well its still 100 bucks
[19:58] <rtc443> ok well i build one for 500 bucks
[19:59] <rtc443> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/print_summary_details_popup.aspx?~lt=print&c=us&cs=19&fb=1&l=en&oc=DDCWDA1&s=dhs&leadtime=&showleadtime=False
[19:59] <rtc443> ok that doesnt work
[19:59] <Muskie> lol
[20:00] <Muskie> you should be fine with what you're trying to build.
[20:00] <Muskie> with all the stuff you're geting, it should work out of the box for you
[20:01] <rtc443> ya ok great, ive been thinking of this for awhile, and if it doesnt work out the box then good old troubleshooting will fix it
[20:01] <rtc443> and lots of google searching
[20:02] <rtc443> thanks for ur help and time
[20:04] <Lunar_Lamp> When I log into mythweb, and also in the program guide, all the channels are in an order that I consider "non-normal".  How can I rearrange them into a standard order?
[20:11] <Muskie> no dang clue.
[20:11] <Muskie> should be a channel rearranger option somewhere. try the wiki?
[20:12] <tgm4883_laptop> define non normal
[20:12] <flodin> i'm having trouble with lirc and the remote control for a hauppauge hvr-1300. I get output from mode2, but after an hour of googling and tampering with irrecord and /etc/lirc/lircd.conf I'm not getting any output from irw
[20:13] <flodin> *still not getting
[20:14] <flodin> is there any way i can pick apart the channel betweeen /dev/lirc0 (which seems to work) and lircd, so i can see where it's losing my button presses?
[20:22] <Lunar_Lamp> tgm4883_laptop: well, the same as my freeview TV lists them.  I expect BBC1 to be first, BBC2 second, and so on.  These start with BBC4, have a few channels, then all the radio stations, then a few more tv channels.
[21:02] <Muskie> allruight
[21:02] <Muskie> i am REALLY miffed now
[21:03] <Muskie> apparently the DVB-T300 is one of the more commonly supported cards.
[21:03] <Muskie> but I STILL can't get anything going. the system still can't find the damn thing.
[21:03] <Zinn> Muskie: Please watch your language.
[21:04] <Muskie> O.o
[21:05] <Muskie> anyway. I've followed the instructions for getting the SAA7134 chipset drivers going,a nd still nothing. can anyone help me with this?
[21:15] <yosamite> Hello, is here somebody who has mythbuntu running as Xen DomU?
[21:31] <Muskie> HU-F*beep*ING ZAH
[21:31] <Muskie> Got it working, finally.
[21:32] <Muskie> silly thing didn't like the PCI port it was plugged into.
[21:41] <yosamite> I've done a debootstrap installation first, then installed mythbuntu804-desktop metapackage, exported the firmware for my FF card, loaded the devices via kenel parameter, so far so good.
[21:42] <yosamite> but if I try to open a vnc connection I'm only getting a grey screen with a shell. How can I configure it now?
[22:05] <blahrus_> foxbuntu: how do I force the backend to update mp3's I updated 1,000 of tags?