[00:07] nalioth: Could we get ubot3 in #ubuntu, ubottu is MIA [00:08] Myrtti: council are able to restart it... or is it more dead than that? [00:08] then why haven't you already :-< [00:08] PriceChild: we are? [00:08] Myrtti: because you pinged those two and didn't say what was wrong so i figured it wasn't anything i could help with [00:09] LjL: you missed the memo? [00:09] * PriceChild finds the link [00:09] :-< [00:09] 17:32:42 >>>> ubottu (n=supybot@ubuntu/bot/ubottu) has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] [00:09] PriceChild: or i've forgotten it [00:09] * Myrtti facepalms [00:09] oh well, back to my skype video call [00:10] Running the bot start script [00:10] Done [00:10] LjL: I'll forward it to you again. [00:11] i have a feeling floodbot might be tuned a tad more aggressively [00:11] ubottu is back and joining slowly. [00:11] ah [00:11] ping pong [00:12] LjL: You mean you will tune it more aggressively? [00:12] Ubottu seems to be gone. This is for a reason? [00:12] hm? [00:12] Pici: well, i meant it seems like a reasonable idea to do so [00:12] Pici: that huge flood could have been avoided after the smaller flood that came before it [00:12] LjL: Agreed. [00:12] hischild: we've noticed the situation a few moments ago [00:12] and it's coming back already, as you can see [00:12] hischild: was there anything else? [00:12] hischild: The bot takes a bit to rejoin the channels, so just be patient :) [00:13] Myrtti, Pici, I only joined moments ago but it catched my attention. Thanks. [00:13] hischild: And it takes a bit for it to respond, it needs to rejoin all its channels first. [00:13] Pici, i see. I'll be patient and wait for it. [00:14] uhm [00:14] what the hell is this [00:14] now what the heck [00:14] Thats jenda [00:14] not jenda [00:14] the operation timed outs [00:14] Dunno, maybe a bot attack in another channel? [00:15] looks more like a server gone south [00:15] Or that. [00:16] yet, there's 26 online, i.e. all of them. bah [00:17] Maybe one of them went down and came up before you checked? [00:17] likely [00:17] also, i can't really guarantee i can count up to 26 [00:19] :-D [01:28] Hey, can you please remove the ban on me? [01:34] ooh, you're actually waiting now for an answer? [01:34] er...yah [01:35] I've walked through the valley of death.... [01:35] and of course reread the CoC [01:36] am I the only one awake still? [01:37] hmmmm [01:37] * Myrtti pokes LjL [01:37] appears so [01:38] gotta be a joint decision aye? [01:38] heh [01:38] no, I'm just about to head to bed (really late here) and I can't login [01:38] 2008-12-06 03:38:25 [01:38] ahh...Ok...I'll check back another time [01:38] hold on [01:38] thanks Myrtti [01:39] k [01:39] don't go vanishing now [01:39] nod [01:40] LjL: can you login to ubottu? [01:40] yeah [01:40] we really need to get the old name for ubottu back, I keep typing the wrong one ;( [01:40] I can't :-< [01:40] nor can I [01:40] I can use my old session [01:40] Myrtti, you in Europe? [01:40] yeah [01:40] where [01:40] Finland [01:40] ahh [01:40] mrwes, i wasn't the one who banned you [01:40] but i'll unban you [01:40] what does that mean? [01:41] I used to live in Berlin [01:41] it means that if you give us reason to ban you again, i'd feel very embarassed [01:41] you don't want to make me feel embarassed, right? [01:41] LjL, understood [01:41] of course not [01:41] ok, since there's someone else on the line now, I'm heading to brush my teeth and vanish myself [01:41] nini babehs [01:41] l8r [01:42] mrwes: you can join [01:42] LjL, danke sehr [01:42] :) [01:43] bitte [02:02] In #ubuntuforums, jdong said: !omgjacob-#ubuntuforums is twss-#ubuntuforums [02:02] that's a different jdong. I swear :) [02:04] !omgjdong | jdong, who, this jdong? [02:04] jdong, who, this jdong?: jdong: You're going to hell. [02:05] :) [02:14] has anyone talked to Seveas about releasing the "ubotu" nick? [02:15] please please [02:15] my fingers are simply unretrainable [02:53] its mostly baked [03:22] @login [03:22] The operation succeeded. [03:24] @boobjob [03:24] :( [04:28] lol [08:12] bazhang: Doesn't really matter, four word lines in the middle of an explanation isn't required [08:12] Flannel, he was spamming [08:12] Flannel, just trying an alternate route to get him to stop. [08:13] I'm not sure "Oh, he's Seveas" will get him to stop, but sure. [08:14] I'm willing to try anything once ;) except most seafood. [08:15] hehe [08:31] LjL: What's up with the change in puregnome? [08:31] the factoid, that is [09:42] Hey all [09:43] hi [09:43] Howdy jussi01 [09:43] so ubottuwent awol for a while then? [09:44] I have her timing out at 14:18, and then peer gets on her case at 14:32 (it's now 1:44) [09:45] who was it who messaged me about it? [09:50] jussi01, myrtti [09:50] jussi01, she messaged you before we had any clue what the emergency was [09:51] ahh,ok [09:51] wonder why her number didnt come up.. well whatever.. [09:51] jussi01, carrier probably [09:52] she was having a rather crappy day [09:52] ok [09:52] * jussi01 hugs Myrtti [09:52] check her jaiku [09:54] jussi01, specifically http://myrtti.jaiku.com/presence/50050778#c-1886792 [09:54] damn! [09:56] someone recommend me a good speedtest site? [09:56] speedtest.net [09:57] :) [09:58] it's one that caters to aussies at least [09:58] ooh, nice my aunt has good internet :D [09:58] http://www.speedtest.net/result/368146002.png [09:58] at least much better than my dads... [09:59] not bad at all [09:59] she must me on the doorstep of the exchange [09:59] yeah [10:00] i'm even closer to an exchange than her :P http://www.speedtest.net/result/368146002.png [10:01] i'm about 500m as the crow flies [12:58] hi kids [13:20] Myrtti, i assume the jaiku app is bandwidth respectful? [13:21] given i only have 100mb/mth, it needs to be [13:21] fairly so [13:21] but... [13:21] i've set it to be only on if used [13:21] since i dont really care about it if i'm not looking at it. [13:22] yeah [13:22] I've personally ditched the Jaiku app though [13:22] oh, why? [13:22] well [13:23] it is bandwidth respectful to certain degree [13:23] but when you go online with it... then it sorta starts updating [13:23] also [13:23] the app is very very old [13:23] hrm ok. how do you update then? [13:23] it doesn't like to coexist with the later/latest Nokia apps, like Nokia Conversations [13:24] I just use http://m.jaiku.com and http://m.hellotxt.com :-/ [13:24] i'm also noticing it likes to own everything in your addressbook too [13:24] * elkbuntu deletes it. [13:59] Flannel: i explained why i changed !puregnome, it's outdated (tries to remove packages that never were installed by kubuntu-desktop), and even where it does work, it appears to remove a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with KDE [14:11] jrib: ah cute, can i have some? :P [14:11] jrib: actually no because i'm using konv, but do you use ubuntu's standard whois? [14:12] LjL: I use the GeoIP python module [14:12] LjL: can you write konv scripts in python? [14:12] jrib: i can write konv scripts in anything that can begin with a shebang [14:13] jrib: but they can't be particularly powerful [14:13] geoip? where? [14:13] ubottu? [14:13] pls? [14:13] me wants [14:13] LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/81379/ that's what it looks like for weechat [14:13] !info python-geoip | Myrtti [14:13] python-geoip (source: python-geoip): python bindings for the GeoIP IP-to-country resolver library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 120 kB [14:14] http://www.selfdestruct.org/misc/geoip.pl.html [14:14] jrib: thing that gets on my nerves is that, for some reason, the ubuntu/debian whois command doesn't really seem to know very much. for instance, it did resolve that fellow's APNIC entry, but i've seen many other APNIC entries that it had no idea about... [14:25] [15:24:40] !away > Panarchy (Panarchy, see the private message from ubottu) [14:25] [15:25:12] LjL : the !away are the ones that waste channel chatting space [14:26] shall i say "no, your comment is what just wasted channel space" and we go on like that? [14:27] what's this, the revenge of the indonesians? [14:38] LjL: just bring him in here to explain it [14:43] ikonia: cannot be bothered. he's been around long enough to know how stuff works and why, if he had wanted to. [14:44] ikonia: also, interesting that among his bantracker entries, there's *precisely* a kick for away [14:46] shoke horror [14:46] shock even [14:51] my jaiku is purtier than Myrtti's [14:52] hehe [15:55] @btlogin [17:03] anyone have ops in #ubuntu-devel? [17:03] 11:55 * invaleed is away (Please give me hug) [17:03] 11:55 -!- invaleed is now known as in[v]aleed [17:03] he's been doing this for 3 days now [17:10] hobbsee is your best bet for quick action [17:12] yup, tried pinging her last night, will attempt again [17:14] whuddabout mnept? [17:30] whoaaaa lag [17:33] ... [17:33] _21h_ is russian... [17:33] he's gone in about 10 [17:33] he doesn't want what he's asking [17:33] he doesn't know what he is asking [17:34] he does, he knows it's bad [17:35] can't you just tell him to man rm and cut the trolling? there *is* a --no-preserve-root option, after all [17:36] I wonder what's going on on -ru [17:36] if you want to tell him that, go for it, I wasnt going to post that in a public channel for him to start shouting about [17:36] Myrtti: nothing special, he's not speaking there [17:36] ikonia: i told him to "man rm" already, but i didn't tell him what option to look for [17:36] twice [17:36] watch for laughter in -ru now [17:36] surprisingly [17:37] "ha, I trolled them good in #ubuntu" [17:37] etc [17:38] he's still not speaking [17:38] good [17:43] I feel so ... ignorant [17:47] * Mez sighs [17:49] I can't install that geoip.pl to my irssi as the server is lacking Geo::IP and I just don't know how to get them installed in my environment. [17:49] sucks. [17:50] on related news, it's the Finnish independence day. [17:50] Yay [17:50] http://loimaannorppa.blogspot.com/2008/09/suomalainen-hkyy-ja-eksyy-tielt.html [17:50] "A Finn is the one who answers when not asked..." [17:51] Neat [18:00] Myrtti: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/14/install-geoip-perl-module-on-debian/ [18:02] that's three times now I've hit alt+f4 instead of alt+4 [18:02] * Myrtti tries once again [18:04] Myrtti: actually, should be in libgeo-ip-perl [18:05] Mez: the problem is, I don't have root rights on this machine [18:05] Myrtti: ah - fair enough... [18:05] the server doesn't have libgeoip-dev, I can bypass that with PP=1 [18:05] but make test fails [18:06] I think [18:06] Failed 3/4 test scripts, 25.00% okay. 31/33 subtests failed, 6.06% okay. [18:06] make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 2 [18:06] yeah, that probably requires the dev stuff [18:07] t/1_lookup........Error opening /usr/local/share/GeoIP/GeoIP.dat at (eval 3) line 438, line 300. [18:07] it's looking for that in the wrong place [18:07] /usr/share/GeoIP/GeoIP.dat [18:08] meh. [18:08] is that in the package? or your install ? [18:09] actually, this isn't the place to help... [18:09] * Myrtti notes this isn't the help channel for help... [18:09] :-/ [18:09] yeah. I'll just go to bed to listen to Eddings. [18:09] Lol - great minds think alike eh? [18:10] well, if you need help - you know how to poke me... [18:55] I'm almost tempted to put -ot to +m and forget to take it off [19:23] [20:23:12] helping people is no justification for ignoring the channel rules. [19:23] [20:23:23] ... [19:23] [20:23:35] somebody breaking the channel rules is no justification for banning them from the channel [19:24] best retort ever. [19:24] hah [19:25] i'm banned from ubuntu for making one off-the-cuff remark [19:25] after helping noobs for like 20 minutes [19:25] no, that's not why you're banned from it. [19:25] well then [19:25] let's hear it [19:25] let's hear it? [19:25] yeah [19:26] i thought it would be pretty clear that, after two !offtopic warnings, you were supposed to DROP IT or take it here or to PM [19:26] what did i do to DESERVE a ban [19:26] i got one offtopic warning [19:26] contested the warning [19:26] got another offtopic warning [19:26] and then a ban [19:26] indeed. [19:26] Ubuntu (IPA: [u?'bu?ntu?] in English,[2] [ù?úntú] in Zulu) is a free operating system based on Debian, a popular Linux distribution. Its name comes from the Zulu word "ubuntu", loosely translated as "humanity", describing the ubuntu philosophy: "I am who I am because of those around me, [19:26] What did you expect? [19:26] something along those lines ^ [19:26] you know [19:26] an ounce of respect for people who are taking their own time to help others [19:27] AHMAD1NEJAD: you showed no repsect towards them when you made a completely inappropriate and irrelevant comment, and even less respect when you kept discussing your kick. [19:27] that doesn't make any sense [19:27] how is it disrespectful to make an irrelevant comment [19:28] 'because they have to read through it and then move their eyes to the next line'? [19:28] !guidelines [19:28] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [19:28] Please read [19:28] how it is? it is, clearly, because 1) there are guidelines, and other very helpful people are abiding to them, and who are you to do otherwise 2) the channel has 1500 people, and it's busy enough without getting irrelevant comments [19:28] 1500 people [19:28] maybe what, 1400 lurkers [19:29] i feel that my actions justify themselves [19:29] and that the channel guidelines are arbitrary and imposed likewise [19:29] then feel free to find another place to spend your time in. [19:29] without any consideration as to whether or not their application is at all beneficial [19:29] being in #ubuntu requires respect of the guidelines [19:29] what makes the internet worthwhile is the lack of guidelines [19:29] maybe you missed that memo [19:30] AHMAD1NEJAD: i take note of the fact that you have no intention of respecting the guidelines. [19:30] that is why wikipedia is more useful as a source of information than fox news [19:30] AHMAD1NEJAD: your ban won't be lifted, have a good day. [19:30] can i get somebody else's opinion [19:30] who didn't ban me in the first place [19:30] sure. [19:30] Pici: got a second opinion on hand? [19:30] no [19:30] not from a person of your selection [19:30] So far you have given your opinion, bear in mind other people's opinions may differ. Just because you see something as fact, doesn't make it so. [19:30] that's not how impartiality works [19:31] AHMAD1NEJAD: attacking us isn't helping you [19:31] i'm not attacking anybody [19:31] in fact i haven't done that yet [19:31] "A river in Egypt." [19:32] most bans don't last 24 hours, AHMAD1NEJAD [19:32] Our channels are not ruled by a system of anarchy, the IRC Council was elected and they created the guidelines and enforce the rules here. [19:32] i haven't made any derogatory remark [19:32] why not take a break and try back later [19:32] i spend twenty minutes teaching these noobs about dd, cfdisk, fstab, mount, all of it [19:32] and i say one thing that you don't understand [19:32] and the process begins [19:32] you label me as a troll [19:32] kick me [19:32] AHMAD1NEJAD: you're definitely not helping yourself here [19:32] if i discuss the kick, i just get banned [19:33] how can you not see what you're doing as harmful? [19:33] how do you justify this? [19:35] AHMAD1NEJAD: obviously, you've not read the CoC or our guidelines [19:36] and if you have, you've forgotten the content immediately [19:36] you're not listening to me at all [19:36] come back in 24h [19:36] what use are the guidelines if their execution is harmful [19:36] you can say you're restricted by them [19:36] but they're only used at your own volition [19:36] well, they only seem 'harmful' to trolls - which you disavow being among [19:37] what makes your judgment of 'trolls' impartial, or absolute? [19:37] i hate time wasters [19:37] there you go again! i'm just trying to discuss this with you [19:37] calmly and rationally [19:38] AHMAD1NEJAD: please come back in 24h [19:38] forget it [19:38] i can't believe you people turn ubuntu [19:38] the one-laptop-per-child distro [19:38] into this [19:38] errr [19:38] ubuntu isn't the olpc distro [19:39] Sugar is based on RedHat IIRC [19:39] * nalioth passes Myrtti the salt [19:39] oh well [19:39] no wonder [19:39] i bet you'd ban the kids who came to #ubuntu [19:39] Is Ahmadinejad a common surname? [19:39] don't feed the trolls -and this guy is definitely one. [19:40] i suspect they run betting pools in ##politics as to how long they can "act normal" elsewhere before they get k/b'd [19:49] * Mez chuckles @ nal's salt comment [19:49] Myrtti: I actually thought that OLPC were going to be using some crappy XP modded version now ? [20:16] Mez: they have that too [20:17] * genii sips [20:25] Mez: the project is starting to become a sellout [20:25] * jdong watches his back, being less than 2 blocks away from the Media Lab... [20:53] had any trouble from arch-ot today ? [20:53] my hightlight picked up this [20:53] 18:48 < fogobogo> hullap: never watched #ubuntu just for the fun? [20:53] 18:48 < Losowski> fogobogo: Actually...if you would like to laugh (besides being on this channel), join #ubuntu! [20:55] ikonia: losowski was in earlier, talked mild nonsense [20:55] Hmmm, [20:56] I'm quite bored of this arch-ot and ubuntu-ru stuff [20:56] PriceChild: didn't you speak to the arch-ot operators ? [20:57] ikonia: you're not the only one who is getting bored [21:46] correct me if I'm wrong [21:47] but isn't it so, that Firefox isn't particularly a GTK software? [21:51] Myrtti: that's my understanding too [21:51] although it definitely depends on libgtk [21:51] but that might simply be for, say, Open File dialog boxes [21:59] it can be compiled with the QT library or the OS X Cocoa libs, too [22:28] Hi [22:29] IS anybody here? [22:29] LjL: Are you there? [22:29] no [22:29] Hello [22:29] I'm back after taking some time away to serve my sentence [22:29] Sorry about spamming, it was very noobish [22:34] LjL: Hello? [22:35] JeremyE: oh, hi! [22:35] LOL HI! [22:35] JeremyE: ok, ok you're unbanned [22:35] Thanks a lot [22:35] It won't happen again [22:36] i hope so [22:54] JeremyE: you sorted? [22:54] Yes [22:54] Thank you [22:54] !idle | JeremyE [22:54] JeremyE: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [22:54] er... oops ;) [22:56] nalioth: you around? [22:58] or any IRCC [22:59] i'm around [23:01] LjL: pm? [23:02] Mez: pong [23:03] nal - I'll catch you up in PM ... [23:14] sounds kinky