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seeleDaSkreech: afaik anyone with kde-neo should have yesterday's trunk00:01
DaSkreechok00:03
seelehum.. i should probably pack. i probably wont have much time to do it tomorrow morning00:08
jjesseagreed00:08
jjessei have to do the same00:08
jjesseloading up laptop right now with movies/videos for the flights to SFO tomorrow00:11
seeleRiddell: does kevin have his own kilt or is he wearing yours?00:12
Riddellseele: it's mine00:13
seeleyou and kevin are quite close then? that seems a bit intimate to share a kilt :P00:13
Riddellseele: I think I lost my toothbrush, can I borrow yours?00:19
Riddellprobably a good thing seele missed that :)00:19
seelewba00:19
seelehmm?00:20
Riddellrumour has it I share my IRC session too00:21
seeleoh yes.. that was a bit confusing00:21
seeleyou're quite the open love kindof guy00:21
Riddellseele: I hope you've packed your swimsuit, that hot tub would be a shame to miss :)00:22
* DaSkreech stays away from toothbrush mentions00:24
seelethere is only one person i share a toothbrush with!00:24
seeleRiddell: damn, and here i was going to "forget" it.  i guess i can't now that i've had a reminder :P00:25
nixternalRiddell: I get in to San Fran at 16:5500:36
nixternalseele: you already got a ride to the hotel?00:39
nixternalyou get in less than an hour after I do00:39
Riddellnixternal: she gets in five minutes after you00:43
nixternal17:47 is what she put on the wiki page00:44
Riddellright00:44
Riddellwell best to share, the taxis are expensive, >$120 for us00:45
Riddelland obviously make sure to get a receipt so you can claim it back00:45
nixternaloh wow00:45
nixternaljjesse: what is your cab situation like?00:46
Riddellyou can also get the caltrain to sunnyvale but goodness knows if it runs on sundays or how you get from its station to the hotel00:46
nixternalI am researching that info now00:46
nixternalfor $9 you can go from the airport to the hotel via public transportation00:52
ScottKnixternal: Or find a Canonical employee to share with and say, "Since you're going to expense this anyway, mind paying for it?"00:53
nixternalthey are all there already I am sure00:53
nixternalcool, if nobody chimes up, I will go ahead and reserve a shuttle ride...$3500:56
nixternaljpds: you around at all? if you wanted to ride together, we need to figure out where to meet up at00:59
nixternalooh, $25 for a shuttle...getting cheaper!01:08
DaSkreechBut wait order now and we wil throw in a backup rickshaw!!!01:10
* ScottK-laptop flings another try at kde4bindings at his PPA ...01:10
jjessenixternal only $25 now?01:15
jjesseusing supershuttle/01:15
jjesse?01:15
nixternalanother shuttle01:16
jjesseah01:16
nixternalI am guessing, not matter which way I look at it, it is probably going to be 2+ hours from the airport to the hotel01:16
jjesseouch01:16
nixternalso I am just debating taking public transportation01:17
NCommanderHome. Finally ****ing home02:36
ScottKNCommander: My next plan for kde4bindings is to just disable anythin *nepomuk* and see if that builds.03:57
ScottKanythin/anything.03:57
ScottKIf anyone objects to that idea ^^^ speak up quick.03:57
r0dzillagood evening04:05
ScottKGood evening.04:05
r0dzillatrying out the 4.2 beta and I'm getting an error in adept:04:05
r0dzillahttp://pastebin.ca/127848204:05
ScottKA fix for that's already been uploaded.04:06
r0dzillaah update sources again?04:06
ScottKAre you on Intrepid from the PPA or Jaunty?04:06
r0dzillaintrepid/ppa04:06
ScottKDunno if that one has been fixed or not.04:07
r0dzillajaunty is the next release right?04:07
ScottK-laptopYes.04:08
ScottK-laptopIt's really not suitable for people to use at the moment, but that doesn't stop some people.04:08
nixternalit stopped me :p04:08
r0dzillalol sometimes I like to try bleeding edge but then you find out why it's called bleeding edge sometimes04:08
ScottK-laptopnixternal: Yeah, me too.04:10
ScottK-laptopnixternal: If you've got a few minutes it might be nice to look at the kdesdk changes that got uploaded to Jaunty today and see if the experimental PPA needs update too.04:20
ScottK-laptopOK, flung that piece of stinking .... at the wall.  We'll see if it sticks.04:22
ScottK-laptopNCommander: Just uploaded another try at kde4bindings.04:22
seelenixternal: already sharing a cab with steve conklin who comes in at 17:40.  if you didn't reserve super shuttle we could probably put another person in it05:18
nixternalseele: nah, you guys won't be leaving the airport until around 9pm at the earliest since you have some going through customs05:19
nixternalI am probably going to be green and just take public transportation :)05:19
nixternal$705:19
nixternalcan't beat that!05:19
nixternalmight have to walk a little bit, but that never hurt anyone05:19
seelenixternal: customs?  we're both from the US?05:19
nixternalyour shuttle ride with greg and jonathan though, he said some have to go through customs05:20
seelethat will take forever05:20
seelewhat are you talking about?05:20
nixternal1.5 hours05:20
nixternalwhat greg just told me in another channel05:20
seelei have no idea what you are talking about05:20
seelei am taking a taxi05:20
nixternaloh05:20
nixternalI thought you were doing the shuttle with jjesse and them05:20
seelethe shuttle takes forever05:20
seeleno?05:20
seelei am sharing a taxi05:21
nixternalahh, OK, my mistake05:21
nixternalthat is about $100 isn't it :)05:21
seelesplit 2 ways and it is half the time05:21
nixternalso if it is just you and steve, I am down with sharing a cab with you guys05:21
seeleok05:21
seelewhat's your email so i can get you in on it05:22
nixternal630.445.3860 is my cell...I will probably be outside chilling in the much nicer weather :)05:22
nixternalnixternal@kubuntu.org05:22
seelewhat airline?05:23
nixternalsouthwest, flight 833, arrive at 4:55pm05:24
seeleok.. trying to figure out what terminal youre coming in from05:24
nixternalterminal 105:24
nixternalboarding area b05:25
nixternalwhat are you coming in on?05:25
seeleunited.. terminal 305:26
nixternalok, that gives me time to cut through the domestic garage and catch up with you05:28
nixternalso you come in directly across the airport from me05:28
seelei think steve comes in at terminal 1 as well05:29
seelefrom alabama05:29
seelei hope there are no delays tomorrow.. it started snowing in DC05:29
* nixternal looks at the wiki05:29
nixternalit stopped snowing tonight05:29
seelenot going to miss DC.  2, 2, 6 and rain, 11 and rain, 405:31
seeleand those are the highs05:32
nixternalseele: steve can pay, he works for canonical and he can expense it :p05:32
seelenixternal: hah, i dont care either way.  i like paying for stuff so i can put the points on my cc05:32
nixternalhehe05:32
seelei get 1% on everything and 3% on my top 505:32
seeleand for ever $200 back i get another $5005:32
nixternalgroovy, put it on your card and I will give you cash, hook ya up with some points :)05:32
seeleand i pay it off every month, so it is free money05:32
nixternalseele: hey, we can take a super shuttle execucar sedan for $8505:35
nixternalwe get it upon arrival...I could get that set up once I get there05:35
nixternalwe can pull up to the hotel in style :)05:36
ScottKFYI, I'll fix the hppa kde4bindings FTBFS after I find out if the current one builds on armel.05:36
nixternalkde4bindings is kicking everyone's ass I think05:36
nixternalI overheard debian, fedora, and open suse having issues05:37
ScottKI'm pretty sure we're getting close.05:51
ScottKThe HPPA FTBFS was just a brain fart on my part.05:51
manchickenI can't believe this...07:25
manchickenI'm actually rocking out on #ubuntu-fr.  Don't I feel accomplished.07:25
Tonio_hi there07:46
apacheloggerwaaah08:42
apacheloggerhttp://www.last.fm/user/Smarter/library/music/Eiffel+65?sortOrder=desc&sortBy=plays08:42
apacheloggerI really think smarter is way too young to even know of that song :P08:43
apacheloggerTonio_: ahoy, got internet access @ home yet?08:43
Tonio_apachelogger: are you there at the uds ?09:00
apacheloggerTonio_: nope, unfortunately I am too busy with work09:01
Tonio_:(09:02
Tonio_apachelogger: good point is that I'll really be able to contribute starting 2009 :)09:02
apachelogger:)09:03
Tonio_can't wait really, allong with having an appartment, that blown my mind up the last 3 month...09:03
apacheloggerTonio_: did you hear? policykit is going to be part of KDE 4.209:03
Tonio_yep I saw that news ;)09:04
Tonio_pretty cook indeed !09:04
Tonio_apachelogger: now the question is : are kcm modules and so on going to use it ?09:04
* apachelogger didn't notice yet09:04
apacheloggerTonio_: I guess we could steal an implementation from trunk (if they choose to add it post-4.2)09:05
Tonio_maybe yes.... as long as we can use packagekit, I'm happy :)09:06
apacheloggerthat would imply that we have a sensible for it though :P09:07
apacheloggeroh, gotta go09:07
apacheloggercya09:07
Tonio_cya :)09:07
chris062689Anyone alive in here? :D11:08
Dekanshello guys11:46
DekansI have a conflict with koffice 2 beta and KDE 4.2 beta11:46
Dekanskde-icons-oxygen conflicts with koffice-kde4-data11:46
NCommanderhey all11:46
NCommanderhey all11:49
Dekansit broke my dependencies tree12:01
mcasapachelogger: ping12:31
r0dzillakde 4.2 ppa broke my dependencies tree...12:41
Dekansi'm not the only one \o/12:44
=== _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde
Dekansr0dzilla: do you have koffice 2 beta 3 installed ?12:45
r0dzillano12:45
r0dzillajust kde 4.2 ppa12:45
r0dzillathis site seems to have a fix:  http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2006/04/16/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-x-which-is-also-in-package-y/12:46
Dekansgood to know12:46
Dekanslet's find the correct package to force12:47
r0dzillathat site says the first package (AAA) in his example12:47
* NCommander had a breakthrough w.r.t. to kde4bidnings12:48
r0dzillahey that fixed mine12:50
Dekansit seems to work :)12:50
r0dzillainstalling firefox now that it can find deps12:50
Dekansthanks r0dzilla12:55
tomaRiddell: can packaging errors in intrepid be fixed or how does that work?12:56
Riddelltoma: see StableReleaseUpdates for procedure for serious bugs12:57
tomaRiddell: ah, good, i think an uninstallable package matches the requirements13:02
Dekanswhy is the oxygen theme ugly on gtk apps ?13:09
DekansI just tried debian yesterday and I had nice firefox buttons13:09
ephoenixhey all13:58
ScottK-laptopNCommander: So it looks like I got kde4bindings to get farther on armel.  Would you please have a look and see if you can figure the next step.14:00
ephoenixI have installed kde 4.2 and have broken dependencies with kdebase-runtime. How do I correct this problem?14:01
* nixternal gets ready to leave...see you all in about 10 hours!15:11
nixternal+1 630 445 3860 - call or sms if you would like...if you have a blackberry, my PIN is 302A16ED - that is Three Zero Two Alpha One Six Echo Delta :p15:12
nixternalrgreening: see you tonight sweetheart :p15:12
rgreeninglol15:12
rgreeningyou keep your hands to yourself :P15:12
nixternalgetting ready to get ready15:13
rgreeningI'm at the airport15:13
nixternalI made sure they hooked us up with a single bed15:13
rgreeninglol.15:13
nixternalwhere are you flying in from again?15:13
rgreeningpitcher or catcher?15:13
rgreeningSt. John's.15:13
nixternalhow long of a flight?15:13
rgreeninghttp://roderick-greening.blogspot.com15:13
rgreeningread my post15:13
nixternallazy ass15:13
rgreeninglol15:13
rgreeningthe flight is 3hrs to Toronto, then 2 hr wait, can't remember how long to Calif from there...15:14
* rgreening checks ticket...15:14
nixternalya, you get into cali at like 8pm iirc15:14
nixternalI will already be at the hotel when you get there, so I will make sure to turn on the air conditioning so you don't overheat15:15
nixternalluckily, chicago isn't getting any snow today, we got it all yesterday15:15
nixternalbut it is a whopping 6f15:15
rgreeningcorrect... 7:57 or similar15:15
rgreeninghah15:16
rgreeningIm looking out the airport window.. cant see $hit15:16
nixternal-14c...brr it is cold15:16
rgreeningIm really looking fwd to meeting everyone15:16
rgreeningI see jr has already been hitting the hot tub15:17
nixternalI am looking forward to...ya I guess the same thing, but the night life aspect of the entire event :)15:17
rgreeninglol.. karoke15:17
nixternalya, I saw those pictures too....kind of scary :p15:17
rgreeninghehe\15:17
nixternalI swear, JR has pics from every UDS where he is in some sort of water15:17
nixternalexcept for Boston, I saw him in a flashy convertable red car that had "Red Hat" on the license plate, and he was wearing a fedora15:18
rgreeninghe should come here... the water is extremely cold15:18
nixternaltraitor!!!15:18
rgreeningOMG15:18
rgreeninglol15:18
rgreeningso, what are the night time plans15:19
nixternalthat I do not know15:19
nixternalI know I am scheduled to find a spot with live bands for Jono and jcastro15:20
nixternalone night the MOTU Council people are supposed to get together15:20
nixternalso that leaves the rest of the night life up in the air15:20
rgreeningcool15:20
rgreeningcount me in15:21
rgreeningI only need 1-2 hrs sleep a night :P15:21
nixternalI need about an hour more :)15:21
rgreeningcool, I get to sleep in15:21
nixternalI can do 3 and hurt, but 4 to 6 is perfect15:21
rgreeningHAH15:21
nixternalhahahahaha, nice15:21
rgreeningI can see we'll get along great15:22
nixternalwe can either use the bathtub for a) showering, or b) a keg :)15:22
nixternalI always go with b, because hotels have sinks15:22
rgreening~twitter update Getting my demo of ufw-kde ready15:22
kubotustatus updated15:22
rgreeninghahah15:23
rgreeningwe can always steal someone elses shower15:23
nixternalalrighty, time to get ready to head out....see you tonight!15:23
rgreeningkk15:23
nixternalthat we can do!15:23
rgreeningl8r15:23
NCommandernixternal, and rgreening15:23
nixternalyo15:23
NCommanderI might be late to the party tonight :-/15:23
rgreeningyo NCommander15:23
NCommanderRochester got a flash freeze15:23
NCommanderNear whiteout15:23
nixternalNCommander: the party shall never end until you are passed out!15:23
rgreeningbwhahaahhahahahahhhahha15:23
NCommanderYou have all lost the game!15:23
* NCommander departs for breakfast15:24
* nixternal goes...see ya'll in a bit15:24
NCommandercya15:24
* jussi01 waves15:24
rgreeningo/15:26
Tonio_hi everyone...16:10
Tonio_seele, Riddell: are you already in sunnyvale ?16:10
ephoenixback17:40
NCommanderlool, care to chat on the topic of kde4bindings?18:12
ScottK-laptopNCommander: You're looking into it then?18:26
NCommanderOn ARM?18:26
ScottK-laptopYes18:26
NCommanderI finally broke down and looked through sip18:26
NCommanderI finally found the ****ing problem18:26
ScottK-laptopKewl.18:26
NCommanderIt's in python-qt4, not kde4bindings18:26
NCommanderpython-qt4 doesn't properly handle qreal's on ARM18:26
NCommanderanything trying to link against python-qt4 and use qreal will fly right into the same problem18:26
ScottK-laptopLet me know when you have a patch ...18:26
NCommanderI probably won't have it until I get to UDS18:27
ScottK-laptopOK.18:27
NCommanderAnd if you want it test built on ARM, might want to try next week :-)18:27
ScottK-laptopYeah, well you're track record is pretty good.  I don't mind throwing a technically sound patch at the buildd's and seeing if it sticks.18:27
NCommanderIf this works, then we can remove some of the patches I've added to kde4libs :-)18:28
NCommanderYay for patch removals!18:28
NCommanderbah, I knew I was forgetting something18:31
* NCommander forgot his cell phones data cable18:31
* NCommander grumbles19:05
NCommanderWhy do I keep making ~700 line patches19:06
JontheEchidnabecause you embrace pain!19:06
manchickenMmm... Pain...19:07
* NCommander hits JontheEchidna 19:07
JontheEchidna:P19:07
* NCommander *really* hopes this works19:09
chris062689Whats up?20:08
chris062689Hello, world?20:13
JontheEchidnaapachelogger, ScottK: bug 27239921:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272399 in qt4-x11 "File watcher causes Plasma crash on mouseover" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27239921:09
JontheEchidnaI probably need to do an SRU for that too21:10
JontheEchidnaKDE 4.2 plasma applets use the "configure" button that triggers the crash everywhere (or at least the comic applet does now, and that's the most important applet :P)21:11
ScottK-laptopJontheEchidna: I got it.21:12
JontheEchidnacool, thanks21:12
ScottK-laptopGet:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main qt4-x11 4.4.3-1ubuntu4 (tar) [113MB]21:13
ScottK-laptopMay be a few minutes though ...21:13
smarterthe configure button doesn't crash here21:13
ScottK-laptop98% [2 qt4-x11 111833872/113MB 99%] and it craps out ...21:16
ScottK-laptopUrgh.21:16
JontheEchidnasmarter: it's giving the applet focus after configuring21:16
JontheEchidnathat causes the crash21:16
smarterdidn't happen here21:17
Tm_TBAH!21:19
Tm_T/usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:131: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘...’ before ‘&’ token21:19
Tm_T/usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:132: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘QColorGroup’ with no type21:19
Riddellmissing a #include usually21:21
* smarter would say #include <QColorGroup> :}21:22
smarteror rather: don't use no deprecated functions! :P21:22
Tm_Tsmarter: ye, I would say so too21:22
Tm_Tkdenetwork, trunk21:23
Tm_Thave to look at it tomorrow, now I need my sleep21:23
Tm_Tgood night kids and thanks (:)21:23
smarter'night Tm_T21:23
chris062689hmmm21:29
chris062689Does KDevelop in the 8.10 repos, is that made for KDE 4 / QT 4 development?21:29
chris062689Like, if I make something with the designer, will that be in QT 4?21:30
chris062689Or does KDevelop still use KDE 3  /  QT 3 at this time+21:30
smarterI think it can be used for both21:31
smarterbut it's the kde3 version of kdevelop of course21:31
smarterfor designer, well it depends on which version of designer is installed21:32
Riddell#kubuntu for user questions21:33
NCommanderhey Riddell21:33
* smarter is off to bed21:34
smarter'night guys21:34
NCommandernight smarter21:36
ScottK-laptopNCommander: So earlier you were saying if we smack JontheEchidna around enough kde4bindings will build?21:43
ScottK-laptopBTW JontheEchidna, qt4-x11 test build started.  Given how long it took just to build the source package, I expect I'll know in a week or tw.21:44
ScottK-laptoptw/two21:44
NCommanderScottK-laptop, probably21:44
NCommanderScottK-laptop, anyway, I think I have a breakthrough w.r.t. to python-qt4 (and thus kde4bindings)21:44
ScottK-laptopExcellent.21:44
jjesse-dellafternoon from minneapolis airport21:57
chris062689Is KDevelop in the 8.10 repos made for creating KDE 4 apps, or KDE 3?22:03
ScottKchris062689: #kubuntu for user questions.22:04
jjesse-dellRiddell: you kicking everyone off #fosscamp?22:10
ScottKRiddell: If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd binary New mlt.  I'm waiting on to to look at updating kdenlive22:49
FireRabbithey nixternal, you around?22:59

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