[00:01] DaSkreech: afaik anyone with kde-neo should have yesterday's trunk [00:03] ok [00:08] hum.. i should probably pack. i probably wont have much time to do it tomorrow morning [00:08] agreed [00:08] i have to do the same [00:11] loading up laptop right now with movies/videos for the flights to SFO tomorrow [00:12] Riddell: does kevin have his own kilt or is he wearing yours? [00:13] seele: it's mine [00:13] you and kevin are quite close then? that seems a bit intimate to share a kilt :P [00:19] seele: I think I lost my toothbrush, can I borrow yours? [00:19] probably a good thing seele missed that :) [00:19] wba [00:20] hmm? [00:21] rumour has it I share my IRC session too [00:21] oh yes.. that was a bit confusing [00:21] you're quite the open love kindof guy [00:22] seele: I hope you've packed your swimsuit, that hot tub would be a shame to miss :) [00:24] * DaSkreech stays away from toothbrush mentions [00:24] there is only one person i share a toothbrush with! [00:25] Riddell: damn, and here i was going to "forget" it. i guess i can't now that i've had a reminder :P [00:36] Riddell: I get in to San Fran at 16:55 [00:39] seele: you already got a ride to the hotel? [00:39] you get in less than an hour after I do [00:43] nixternal: she gets in five minutes after you [00:44] 17:47 is what she put on the wiki page [00:44] right [00:45] well best to share, the taxis are expensive, >$120 for us [00:45] and obviously make sure to get a receipt so you can claim it back [00:45] oh wow [00:46] jjesse: what is your cab situation like? [00:46] you can also get the caltrain to sunnyvale but goodness knows if it runs on sundays or how you get from its station to the hotel [00:46] I am researching that info now [00:52] for $9 you can go from the airport to the hotel via public transportation [00:53] nixternal: Or find a Canonical employee to share with and say, "Since you're going to expense this anyway, mind paying for it?" [00:53] they are all there already I am sure [00:56] cool, if nobody chimes up, I will go ahead and reserve a shuttle ride...$35 [00:59] jpds: you around at all? if you wanted to ride together, we need to figure out where to meet up at [01:08] ooh, $25 for a shuttle...getting cheaper! [01:10] But wait order now and we wil throw in a backup rickshaw!!! [01:10] * ScottK-laptop flings another try at kde4bindings at his PPA ... [01:15] nixternal only $25 now? [01:15] using supershuttle/ [01:15] ? [01:16] another shuttle [01:16] ah [01:16] I am guessing, not matter which way I look at it, it is probably going to be 2+ hours from the airport to the hotel [01:16] ouch [01:17] so I am just debating taking public transportation [02:36] Home. Finally ****ing home [03:57] NCommander: My next plan for kde4bindings is to just disable anythin *nepomuk* and see if that builds. [03:57] anythin/anything. [03:57] If anyone objects to that idea ^^^ speak up quick. [04:05] good evening [04:05] Good evening. [04:05] trying out the 4.2 beta and I'm getting an error in adept: [04:05] http://pastebin.ca/1278482 [04:06] A fix for that's already been uploaded. [04:06] ah update sources again? [04:06] Are you on Intrepid from the PPA or Jaunty? [04:06] intrepid/ppa [04:07] Dunno if that one has been fixed or not. [04:07] jaunty is the next release right? [04:08] Yes. [04:08] It's really not suitable for people to use at the moment, but that doesn't stop some people. [04:08] it stopped me :p [04:08] lol sometimes I like to try bleeding edge but then you find out why it's called bleeding edge sometimes [04:10] nixternal: Yeah, me too. [04:20] nixternal: If you've got a few minutes it might be nice to look at the kdesdk changes that got uploaded to Jaunty today and see if the experimental PPA needs update too. [04:22] OK, flung that piece of stinking .... at the wall. We'll see if it sticks. [04:22] NCommander: Just uploaded another try at kde4bindings. [05:18] nixternal: already sharing a cab with steve conklin who comes in at 17:40. if you didn't reserve super shuttle we could probably put another person in it [05:19] seele: nah, you guys won't be leaving the airport until around 9pm at the earliest since you have some going through customs [05:19] I am probably going to be green and just take public transportation :) [05:19] $7 [05:19] can't beat that! [05:19] might have to walk a little bit, but that never hurt anyone [05:19] nixternal: customs? we're both from the US? [05:20] your shuttle ride with greg and jonathan though, he said some have to go through customs [05:20] that will take forever [05:20] what are you talking about? [05:20] 1.5 hours [05:20] what greg just told me in another channel [05:20] i have no idea what you are talking about [05:20] i am taking a taxi [05:20] oh [05:20] I thought you were doing the shuttle with jjesse and them [05:20] the shuttle takes forever [05:20] no? [05:21] i am sharing a taxi [05:21] ahh, OK, my mistake [05:21] that is about $100 isn't it :) [05:21] split 2 ways and it is half the time [05:21] so if it is just you and steve, I am down with sharing a cab with you guys [05:21] ok [05:22] what's your email so i can get you in on it [05:22] 630.445.3860 is my cell...I will probably be outside chilling in the much nicer weather :) [05:22] nixternal@kubuntu.org [05:23] what airline? [05:24] southwest, flight 833, arrive at 4:55pm [05:24] ok.. trying to figure out what terminal youre coming in from [05:24] terminal 1 [05:25] boarding area b [05:25] what are you coming in on? [05:26] united.. terminal 3 [05:28] ok, that gives me time to cut through the domestic garage and catch up with you [05:28] so you come in directly across the airport from me [05:29] i think steve comes in at terminal 1 as well [05:29] from alabama [05:29] i hope there are no delays tomorrow.. it started snowing in DC [05:29] * nixternal looks at the wiki [05:29] it stopped snowing tonight [05:31] not going to miss DC. 2, 2, 6 and rain, 11 and rain, 4 [05:32] and those are the highs [05:32] seele: steve can pay, he works for canonical and he can expense it :p [05:32] nixternal: hah, i dont care either way. i like paying for stuff so i can put the points on my cc [05:32] hehe [05:32] i get 1% on everything and 3% on my top 5 [05:32] and for ever $200 back i get another $50 [05:32] groovy, put it on your card and I will give you cash, hook ya up with some points :) [05:32] and i pay it off every month, so it is free money [05:35] seele: hey, we can take a super shuttle execucar sedan for $85 [05:35] we get it upon arrival...I could get that set up once I get there [05:36] we can pull up to the hotel in style :) [05:36] FYI, I'll fix the hppa kde4bindings FTBFS after I find out if the current one builds on armel. [05:36] kde4bindings is kicking everyone's ass I think [05:37] I overheard debian, fedora, and open suse having issues [05:51] I'm pretty sure we're getting close. [05:51] The HPPA FTBFS was just a brain fart on my part. [07:25] I can't believe this... [07:25] I'm actually rocking out on #ubuntu-fr. Don't I feel accomplished. [07:46] hi there [08:42] waaah [08:42] http://www.last.fm/user/Smarter/library/music/Eiffel+65?sortOrder=desc&sortBy=plays [08:43] I really think smarter is way too young to even know of that song :P [08:43] Tonio_: ahoy, got internet access @ home yet? [09:00] apachelogger: are you there at the uds ? [09:01] Tonio_: nope, unfortunately I am too busy with work [09:02] :( [09:02] apachelogger: good point is that I'll really be able to contribute starting 2009 :) [09:03] :) [09:03] can't wait really, allong with having an appartment, that blown my mind up the last 3 month... [09:03] Tonio_: did you hear? policykit is going to be part of KDE 4.2 [09:04] yep I saw that news ;) [09:04] pretty cook indeed ! [09:04] apachelogger: now the question is : are kcm modules and so on going to use it ? [09:04] * apachelogger didn't notice yet [09:05] Tonio_: I guess we could steal an implementation from trunk (if they choose to add it post-4.2) [09:06] maybe yes.... as long as we can use packagekit, I'm happy :) [09:07] that would imply that we have a sensible for it though :P [09:07] oh, gotta go [09:07] cya [09:07] cya :) [11:08] Anyone alive in here? :D [11:46] hello guys [11:46] I have a conflict with koffice 2 beta and KDE 4.2 beta [11:46] kde-icons-oxygen conflicts with koffice-kde4-data [11:46] hey all [11:49] hey all [12:01] it broke my dependencies tree [12:31] apachelogger: ping [12:41] kde 4.2 ppa broke my dependencies tree... [12:44] i'm not the only one \o/ === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [12:45] r0dzilla: do you have koffice 2 beta 3 installed ? [12:45] no [12:45] just kde 4.2 ppa [12:46] this site seems to have a fix: http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2006/04/16/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-x-which-is-also-in-package-y/ [12:46] good to know [12:47] let's find the correct package to force [12:47] that site says the first package (AAA) in his example [12:48] * NCommander had a breakthrough w.r.t. to kde4bidnings [12:50] hey that fixed mine [12:50] it seems to work :) [12:50] installing firefox now that it can find deps [12:55] thanks r0dzilla [12:56] Riddell: can packaging errors in intrepid be fixed or how does that work? [12:57] toma: see StableReleaseUpdates for procedure for serious bugs [13:02] Riddell: ah, good, i think an uninstallable package matches the requirements [13:09] why is the oxygen theme ugly on gtk apps ? [13:09] I just tried debian yesterday and I had nice firefox buttons [13:58] hey all [14:00] NCommander: So it looks like I got kde4bindings to get farther on armel. Would you please have a look and see if you can figure the next step. [14:01] I have installed kde 4.2 and have broken dependencies with kdebase-runtime. How do I correct this problem? [15:11] * nixternal gets ready to leave...see you all in about 10 hours! [15:12] +1 630 445 3860 - call or sms if you would like...if you have a blackberry, my PIN is 302A16ED - that is Three Zero Two Alpha One Six Echo Delta :p [15:12] rgreening: see you tonight sweetheart :p [15:12] lol [15:12] you keep your hands to yourself :P [15:13] getting ready to get ready [15:13] I'm at the airport [15:13] I made sure they hooked us up with a single bed [15:13] lol. [15:13] where are you flying in from again? [15:13] pitcher or catcher? [15:13] St. John's. [15:13] how long of a flight? [15:13] http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com [15:13] read my post [15:13] lazy ass [15:13] lol [15:14] the flight is 3hrs to Toronto, then 2 hr wait, can't remember how long to Calif from there... [15:14] * rgreening checks ticket... [15:14] ya, you get into cali at like 8pm iirc [15:15] I will already be at the hotel when you get there, so I will make sure to turn on the air conditioning so you don't overheat [15:15] luckily, chicago isn't getting any snow today, we got it all yesterday [15:15] but it is a whopping 6f [15:15] correct... 7:57 or similar [15:16] hah [15:16] Im looking out the airport window.. cant see $hit [15:16] -14c...brr it is cold [15:16] Im really looking fwd to meeting everyone [15:17] I see jr has already been hitting the hot tub [15:17] I am looking forward to...ya I guess the same thing, but the night life aspect of the entire event :) [15:17] lol.. karoke [15:17] ya, I saw those pictures too....kind of scary :p [15:17] hehe\ [15:17] I swear, JR has pics from every UDS where he is in some sort of water [15:18] except for Boston, I saw him in a flashy convertable red car that had "Red Hat" on the license plate, and he was wearing a fedora [15:18] he should come here... the water is extremely cold [15:18] traitor!!! [15:18] OMG [15:18] lol [15:19] so, what are the night time plans [15:19] that I do not know [15:20] I know I am scheduled to find a spot with live bands for Jono and jcastro [15:20] one night the MOTU Council people are supposed to get together [15:20] so that leaves the rest of the night life up in the air [15:20] cool [15:21] count me in [15:21] I only need 1-2 hrs sleep a night :P [15:21] I need about an hour more :) [15:21] cool, I get to sleep in [15:21] I can do 3 and hurt, but 4 to 6 is perfect [15:21] HAH [15:21] hahahahaha, nice [15:22] I can see we'll get along great [15:22] we can either use the bathtub for a) showering, or b) a keg :) [15:22] I always go with b, because hotels have sinks [15:22] ~twitter update Getting my demo of ufw-kde ready [15:22] status updated [15:23] hahah [15:23] we can always steal someone elses shower [15:23] alrighty, time to get ready to head out....see you tonight! [15:23] kk [15:23] that we can do! [15:23] l8r [15:23] nixternal, and rgreening [15:23] yo [15:23] I might be late to the party tonight :-/ [15:23] yo NCommander [15:23] Rochester got a flash freeze [15:23] Near whiteout [15:23] NCommander: the party shall never end until you are passed out! [15:23] bwhahaahhahahahahhhahha [15:23] You have all lost the game! [15:24] * NCommander departs for breakfast [15:24] * nixternal goes...see ya'll in a bit [15:24] cya [15:24] * jussi01 waves [15:26] o/ [16:10] hi everyone... [16:10] seele, Riddell: are you already in sunnyvale ? [17:40] back [18:12] lool, care to chat on the topic of kde4bindings? [18:26] NCommander: You're looking into it then? [18:26] On ARM? [18:26] Yes [18:26] I finally broke down and looked through sip [18:26] I finally found the ****ing problem [18:26] Kewl. [18:26] It's in python-qt4, not kde4bindings [18:26] python-qt4 doesn't properly handle qreal's on ARM [18:26] anything trying to link against python-qt4 and use qreal will fly right into the same problem [18:26] Let me know when you have a patch ... [18:27] I probably won't have it until I get to UDS [18:27] OK. [18:27] And if you want it test built on ARM, might want to try next week :-) [18:27] Yeah, well you're track record is pretty good. I don't mind throwing a technically sound patch at the buildd's and seeing if it sticks. [18:28] If this works, then we can remove some of the patches I've added to kde4libs :-) [18:28] Yay for patch removals! [18:31] bah, I knew I was forgetting something [18:31] * NCommander forgot his cell phones data cable [19:05] * NCommander grumbles [19:06] Why do I keep making ~700 line patches [19:06] because you embrace pain! [19:07] Mmm... Pain... [19:07] * NCommander hits JontheEchidna [19:07] :P [19:09] * NCommander *really* hopes this works [20:08] Whats up? [20:13] Hello, world? [21:09] apachelogger, ScottK: bug 272399 [21:09] Launchpad bug 272399 in qt4-x11 "File watcher causes Plasma crash on mouseover" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272399 [21:10] I probably need to do an SRU for that too [21:11] KDE 4.2 plasma applets use the "configure" button that triggers the crash everywhere (or at least the comic applet does now, and that's the most important applet :P) [21:12] JontheEchidna: I got it. [21:12] cool, thanks [21:13] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main qt4-x11 4.4.3-1ubuntu4 (tar) [113MB] [21:13] May be a few minutes though ... [21:13] the configure button doesn't crash here [21:16] 98% [2 qt4-x11 111833872/113MB 99%] and it craps out ... [21:16] Urgh. [21:16] smarter: it's giving the applet focus after configuring [21:16] that causes the crash [21:17] didn't happen here [21:19] BAH! [21:19] /usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:131: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘...’ before ‘&’ token [21:19] /usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:132: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘QColorGroup’ with no type [21:21] missing a #include usually [21:22] * smarter would say #include :} [21:22] or rather: don't use no deprecated functions! :P [21:22] smarter: ye, I would say so too [21:23] kdenetwork, trunk [21:23] have to look at it tomorrow, now I need my sleep [21:23] good night kids and thanks (:) [21:23] 'night Tm_T [21:29] hmmm [21:29] Does KDevelop in the 8.10 repos, is that made for KDE 4 / QT 4 development? [21:30] Like, if I make something with the designer, will that be in QT 4? [21:30] Or does KDevelop still use KDE 3 / QT 3 at this time+ [21:31] I think it can be used for both [21:31] but it's the kde3 version of kdevelop of course [21:32] for designer, well it depends on which version of designer is installed [21:33] #kubuntu for user questions [21:33] hey Riddell [21:34] * smarter is off to bed [21:34] 'night guys [21:36] night smarter [21:43] NCommander: So earlier you were saying if we smack JontheEchidna around enough kde4bindings will build? [21:44] BTW JontheEchidna, qt4-x11 test build started. Given how long it took just to build the source package, I expect I'll know in a week or tw. [21:44] tw/two [21:44] ScottK-laptop, probably [21:44] ScottK-laptop, anyway, I think I have a breakthrough w.r.t. to python-qt4 (and thus kde4bindings) [21:44] Excellent. [21:57] afternoon from minneapolis airport [22:03] Is KDevelop in the 8.10 repos made for creating KDE 4 apps, or KDE 3? [22:04] chris062689: #kubuntu for user questions. [22:10] Riddell: you kicking everyone off #fosscamp? [22:49] Riddell: If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd binary New mlt. I'm waiting on to to look at updating kdenlive [22:59] hey nixternal, you around?