[00:01] <seele> DaSkreech: afaik anyone with kde-neo should have yesterday's trunk
[00:03] <DaSkreech> ok
[00:08] <seele> hum.. i should probably pack. i probably wont have much time to do it tomorrow morning
[00:08] <jjesse> agreed
[00:08] <jjesse> i have to do the same
[00:11] <jjesse> loading up laptop right now with movies/videos for the flights to SFO tomorrow
[00:12] <seele> Riddell: does kevin have his own kilt or is he wearing yours?
[00:13] <Riddell> seele: it's mine
[00:13] <seele> you and kevin are quite close then? that seems a bit intimate to share a kilt :P
[00:19] <Riddell> seele: I think I lost my toothbrush, can I borrow yours?
[00:19] <Riddell> probably a good thing seele missed that :)
[00:19] <seele> wba
[00:20] <seele> hmm?
[00:21] <Riddell> rumour has it I share my IRC session too
[00:21] <seele> oh yes.. that was a bit confusing
[00:21] <seele> you're quite the open love kindof guy
[00:22] <Riddell> seele: I hope you've packed your swimsuit, that hot tub would be a shame to miss :)
[00:24]  * DaSkreech stays away from toothbrush mentions
[00:24] <seele> there is only one person i share a toothbrush with!
[00:25] <seele> Riddell: damn, and here i was going to "forget" it.  i guess i can't now that i've had a reminder :P
[00:36] <nixternal> Riddell: I get in to San Fran at 16:55
[00:39] <nixternal> seele: you already got a ride to the hotel?
[00:39] <nixternal> you get in less than an hour after I do
[00:43] <Riddell> nixternal: she gets in five minutes after you
[00:44] <nixternal> 17:47 is what she put on the wiki page
[00:44] <Riddell> right
[00:45] <Riddell> well best to share, the taxis are expensive, >$120 for us
[00:45] <Riddell> and obviously make sure to get a receipt so you can claim it back
[00:45] <nixternal> oh wow
[00:46] <nixternal> jjesse: what is your cab situation like?
[00:46] <Riddell> you can also get the caltrain to sunnyvale but goodness knows if it runs on sundays or how you get from its station to the hotel
[00:46] <nixternal> I am researching that info now
[00:52] <nixternal> for $9 you can go from the airport to the hotel via public transportation
[00:53] <ScottK> nixternal: Or find a Canonical employee to share with and say, "Since you're going to expense this anyway, mind paying for it?"
[00:53] <nixternal> they are all there already I am sure
[00:56] <nixternal> cool, if nobody chimes up, I will go ahead and reserve a shuttle ride...$35
[00:59] <nixternal> jpds: you around at all? if you wanted to ride together, we need to figure out where to meet up at
[01:08] <nixternal> ooh, $25 for a shuttle...getting cheaper!
[01:10] <DaSkreech> But wait order now and we wil throw in a backup rickshaw!!!
[01:10]  * ScottK-laptop flings another try at kde4bindings at his PPA ...
[01:15] <jjesse> nixternal only $25 now?
[01:15] <jjesse> using supershuttle/
[01:15] <jjesse> ?
[01:16] <nixternal> another shuttle
[01:16] <jjesse> ah
[01:16] <nixternal> I am guessing, not matter which way I look at it, it is probably going to be 2+ hours from the airport to the hotel
[01:16] <jjesse> ouch
[01:17] <nixternal> so I am just debating taking public transportation
[02:36] <NCommander> Home. Finally ****ing home
[03:57] <ScottK> NCommander: My next plan for kde4bindings is to just disable anythin *nepomuk* and see if that builds.
[03:57] <ScottK> anythin/anything.
[03:57] <ScottK> If anyone objects to that idea ^^^ speak up quick.
[04:05] <r0dzilla> good evening
[04:05] <ScottK> Good evening.
[04:05] <r0dzilla> trying out the 4.2 beta and I'm getting an error in adept:
[04:05] <r0dzilla> http://pastebin.ca/1278482
[04:06] <ScottK> A fix for that's already been uploaded.
[04:06] <r0dzilla> ah update sources again?
[04:06] <ScottK> Are you on Intrepid from the PPA or Jaunty?
[04:06] <r0dzilla> intrepid/ppa
[04:07] <ScottK> Dunno if that one has been fixed or not.
[04:07] <r0dzilla> jaunty is the next release right?
[04:08] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.
[04:08] <ScottK-laptop> It's really not suitable for people to use at the moment, but that doesn't stop some people.
[04:08] <nixternal> it stopped me :p
[04:08] <r0dzilla> lol sometimes I like to try bleeding edge but then you find out why it's called bleeding edge sometimes
[04:10] <ScottK-laptop> nixternal: Yeah, me too.
[04:20] <ScottK-laptop> nixternal: If you've got a few minutes it might be nice to look at the kdesdk changes that got uploaded to Jaunty today and see if the experimental PPA needs update too.
[04:22] <ScottK-laptop> OK, flung that piece of stinking .... at the wall.  We'll see if it sticks.
[04:22] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: Just uploaded another try at kde4bindings.
[05:18] <seele> nixternal: already sharing a cab with steve conklin who comes in at 17:40.  if you didn't reserve super shuttle we could probably put another person in it
[05:19] <nixternal> seele: nah, you guys won't be leaving the airport until around 9pm at the earliest since you have some going through customs
[05:19] <nixternal> I am probably going to be green and just take public transportation :)
[05:19] <nixternal> $7
[05:19] <nixternal> can't beat that!
[05:19] <nixternal> might have to walk a little bit, but that never hurt anyone
[05:19] <seele> nixternal: customs?  we're both from the US?
[05:20] <nixternal> your shuttle ride with greg and jonathan though, he said some have to go through customs
[05:20] <seele> that will take forever
[05:20] <seele> what are you talking about?
[05:20] <nixternal> 1.5 hours
[05:20] <nixternal> what greg just told me in another channel
[05:20] <seele> i have no idea what you are talking about
[05:20] <seele> i am taking a taxi
[05:20] <nixternal> oh
[05:20] <nixternal> I thought you were doing the shuttle with jjesse and them
[05:20] <seele> the shuttle takes forever
[05:20] <seele> no?
[05:21] <seele> i am sharing a taxi
[05:21] <nixternal> ahh, OK, my mistake
[05:21] <nixternal> that is about $100 isn't it :)
[05:21] <seele> split 2 ways and it is half the time
[05:21] <nixternal> so if it is just you and steve, I am down with sharing a cab with you guys
[05:21] <seele> ok
[05:22] <seele> what's your email so i can get you in on it
[05:22] <nixternal> 630.445.3860 is my cell...I will probably be outside chilling in the much nicer weather :)
[05:22] <nixternal> nixternal@kubuntu.org
[05:23] <seele> what airline?
[05:24] <nixternal> southwest, flight 833, arrive at 4:55pm
[05:24] <seele> ok.. trying to figure out what terminal youre coming in from
[05:24] <nixternal> terminal 1
[05:25] <nixternal> boarding area b
[05:25] <nixternal> what are you coming in on?
[05:26] <seele> united.. terminal 3
[05:28] <nixternal> ok, that gives me time to cut through the domestic garage and catch up with you
[05:28] <nixternal> so you come in directly across the airport from me
[05:29] <seele> i think steve comes in at terminal 1 as well
[05:29] <seele> from alabama
[05:29] <seele> i hope there are no delays tomorrow.. it started snowing in DC
[05:29]  * nixternal looks at the wiki
[05:29] <nixternal> it stopped snowing tonight
[05:31] <seele> not going to miss DC.  2, 2, 6 and rain, 11 and rain, 4
[05:32] <seele> and those are the highs
[05:32] <nixternal> seele: steve can pay, he works for canonical and he can expense it :p
[05:32] <seele> nixternal: hah, i dont care either way.  i like paying for stuff so i can put the points on my cc
[05:32] <nixternal> hehe
[05:32] <seele> i get 1% on everything and 3% on my top 5
[05:32] <seele> and for ever $200 back i get another $50
[05:32] <nixternal> groovy, put it on your card and I will give you cash, hook ya up with some points :)
[05:32] <seele> and i pay it off every month, so it is free money
[05:35] <nixternal> seele: hey, we can take a super shuttle execucar sedan for $85
[05:35] <nixternal> we get it upon arrival...I could get that set up once I get there
[05:36] <nixternal> we can pull up to the hotel in style :)
[05:36] <ScottK> FYI, I'll fix the hppa kde4bindings FTBFS after I find out if the current one builds on armel.
[05:36] <nixternal> kde4bindings is kicking everyone's ass I think
[05:37] <nixternal> I overheard debian, fedora, and open suse having issues
[05:51] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure we're getting close.
[05:51] <ScottK> The HPPA FTBFS was just a brain fart on my part.
[07:25] <manchicken> I can't believe this...
[07:25] <manchicken> I'm actually rocking out on #ubuntu-fr.  Don't I feel accomplished.
[07:46] <Tonio_> hi there
[08:42] <apachelogger> waaah
[08:42] <apachelogger> http://www.last.fm/user/Smarter/library/music/Eiffel+65?sortOrder=desc&sortBy=plays
[08:43] <apachelogger> I really think smarter is way too young to even know of that song :P
[08:43] <apachelogger> Tonio_: ahoy, got internet access @ home yet?
[09:00] <Tonio_> apachelogger: are you there at the uds ?
[09:01] <apachelogger> Tonio_: nope, unfortunately I am too busy with work
[09:02] <Tonio_> :(
[09:02] <Tonio_> apachelogger: good point is that I'll really be able to contribute starting 2009 :)
[09:03] <apachelogger> :)
[09:03] <Tonio_> can't wait really, allong with having an appartment, that blown my mind up the last 3 month...
[09:03] <apachelogger> Tonio_: did you hear? policykit is going to be part of KDE 4.2
[09:04] <Tonio_> yep I saw that news ;)
[09:04] <Tonio_> pretty cook indeed !
[09:04] <Tonio_> apachelogger: now the question is : are kcm modules and so on going to use it ?
[09:04]  * apachelogger didn't notice yet
[09:05] <apachelogger> Tonio_: I guess we could steal an implementation from trunk (if they choose to add it post-4.2)
[09:06] <Tonio_> maybe yes.... as long as we can use packagekit, I'm happy :)
[09:07] <apachelogger> that would imply that we have a sensible for it though :P
[09:07] <apachelogger> oh, gotta go
[09:07] <apachelogger> cya
[09:07] <Tonio_> cya :)
[11:08] <chris062689> Anyone alive in here? :D
[11:46] <Dekans> hello guys
[11:46] <Dekans> I have a conflict with koffice 2 beta and KDE 4.2 beta
[11:46] <Dekans> kde-icons-oxygen conflicts with koffice-kde4-data
[11:46] <NCommander> hey all
[11:49] <NCommander> hey all
[12:01] <Dekans> it broke my dependencies tree
[12:31] <mcas> apachelogger: ping
[12:41] <r0dzilla> kde 4.2 ppa broke my dependencies tree...
[12:44] <Dekans> i'm not the only one \o/
[12:45] <Dekans> r0dzilla: do you have koffice 2 beta 3 installed ?
[12:45] <r0dzilla> no
[12:45] <r0dzilla> just kde 4.2 ppa
[12:46] <r0dzilla> this site seems to have a fix:  http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/2006/04/16/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-x-which-is-also-in-package-y/
[12:46] <Dekans> good to know
[12:47] <Dekans> let's find the correct package to force
[12:47] <r0dzilla> that site says the first package (AAA) in his example
[12:48]  * NCommander had a breakthrough w.r.t. to kde4bidnings
[12:50] <r0dzilla> hey that fixed mine
[12:50] <Dekans> it seems to work :)
[12:50] <r0dzilla> installing firefox now that it can find deps
[12:55] <Dekans> thanks r0dzilla
[12:56] <toma> Riddell: can packaging errors in intrepid be fixed or how does that work?
[12:57] <Riddell> toma: see StableReleaseUpdates for procedure for serious bugs
[13:02] <toma> Riddell: ah, good, i think an uninstallable package matches the requirements
[13:09] <Dekans> why is the oxygen theme ugly on gtk apps ?
[13:09] <Dekans> I just tried debian yesterday and I had nice firefox buttons
[13:58] <ephoenix> hey all
[14:00] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: So it looks like I got kde4bindings to get farther on armel.  Would you please have a look and see if you can figure the next step.
[14:01] <ephoenix> I have installed kde 4.2 and have broken dependencies with kdebase-runtime. How do I correct this problem?
[15:11]  * nixternal gets ready to leave...see you all in about 10 hours!
[15:12] <nixternal> +1 630 445 3860 - call or sms if you would like...if you have a blackberry, my PIN is 302A16ED - that is Three Zero Two Alpha One Six Echo Delta :p
[15:12] <nixternal> rgreening: see you tonight sweetheart :p
[15:12] <rgreening> lol
[15:12] <rgreening> you keep your hands to yourself :P
[15:13] <nixternal> getting ready to get ready
[15:13] <rgreening> I'm at the airport
[15:13] <nixternal> I made sure they hooked us up with a single bed
[15:13] <rgreening> lol.
[15:13] <nixternal> where are you flying in from again?
[15:13] <rgreening> pitcher or catcher?
[15:13] <rgreening> St. John's.
[15:13] <nixternal> how long of a flight?
[15:13] <rgreening> http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com
[15:13] <rgreening> read my post
[15:13] <nixternal> lazy ass
[15:13] <rgreening> lol
[15:14] <rgreening> the flight is 3hrs to Toronto, then 2 hr wait, can't remember how long to Calif from there...
[15:14]  * rgreening checks ticket...
[15:14] <nixternal> ya, you get into cali at like 8pm iirc
[15:15] <nixternal> I will already be at the hotel when you get there, so I will make sure to turn on the air conditioning so you don't overheat
[15:15] <nixternal> luckily, chicago isn't getting any snow today, we got it all yesterday
[15:15] <nixternal> but it is a whopping 6f
[15:15] <rgreening> correct... 7:57 or similar
[15:16] <rgreening> hah
[15:16] <rgreening> Im looking out the airport window.. cant see $hit
[15:16] <nixternal> -14c...brr it is cold
[15:16] <rgreening> Im really looking fwd to meeting everyone
[15:17] <rgreening> I see jr has already been hitting the hot tub
[15:17] <nixternal> I am looking forward to...ya I guess the same thing, but the night life aspect of the entire event :)
[15:17] <rgreening> lol.. karoke
[15:17] <nixternal> ya, I saw those pictures too....kind of scary :p
[15:17] <rgreening> hehe\
[15:17] <nixternal> I swear, JR has pics from every UDS where he is in some sort of water
[15:18] <nixternal> except for Boston, I saw him in a flashy convertable red car that had "Red Hat" on the license plate, and he was wearing a fedora
[15:18] <rgreening> he should come here... the water is extremely cold
[15:18] <nixternal> traitor!!!
[15:18] <rgreening> OMG
[15:18] <rgreening> lol
[15:19] <rgreening> so, what are the night time plans
[15:19] <nixternal> that I do not know
[15:20] <nixternal> I know I am scheduled to find a spot with live bands for Jono and jcastro
[15:20] <nixternal> one night the MOTU Council people are supposed to get together
[15:20] <nixternal> so that leaves the rest of the night life up in the air
[15:20] <rgreening> cool
[15:21] <rgreening> count me in
[15:21] <rgreening> I only need 1-2 hrs sleep a night :P
[15:21] <nixternal> I need about an hour more :)
[15:21] <rgreening> cool, I get to sleep in
[15:21] <nixternal> I can do 3 and hurt, but 4 to 6 is perfect
[15:21] <rgreening> HAH
[15:21] <nixternal> hahahahaha, nice
[15:22] <rgreening> I can see we'll get along great
[15:22] <nixternal> we can either use the bathtub for a) showering, or b) a keg :)
[15:22] <nixternal> I always go with b, because hotels have sinks
[15:22] <rgreening> ~twitter update Getting my demo of ufw-kde ready
[15:22] <kubotu> status updated
[15:23] <rgreening> hahah
[15:23] <rgreening> we can always steal someone elses shower
[15:23] <nixternal> alrighty, time to get ready to head out....see you tonight!
[15:23] <rgreening> kk
[15:23] <nixternal> that we can do!
[15:23] <rgreening> l8r
[15:23] <NCommander> nixternal, and rgreening
[15:23] <nixternal> yo
[15:23] <NCommander> I might be late to the party tonight :-/
[15:23] <rgreening> yo NCommander
[15:23] <NCommander> Rochester got a flash freeze
[15:23] <NCommander> Near whiteout
[15:23] <nixternal> NCommander: the party shall never end until you are passed out!
[15:23] <rgreening> bwhahaahhahahahahhhahha
[15:23] <NCommander> You have all lost the game!
[15:24]  * NCommander departs for breakfast
[15:24]  * nixternal goes...see ya'll in a bit
[15:24] <NCommander> cya
[15:24]  * jussi01 waves
[15:26] <rgreening> o/
[16:10] <Tonio_> hi everyone...
[16:10] <Tonio_> seele, Riddell: are you already in sunnyvale ?
[17:40] <ephoenix> back
[18:12] <NCommander> lool, care to chat on the topic of kde4bindings?
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: You're looking into it then?
[18:26] <NCommander> On ARM?
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> Yes
[18:26] <NCommander> I finally broke down and looked through sip
[18:26] <NCommander> I finally found the ****ing problem
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> Kewl.
[18:26] <NCommander> It's in python-qt4, not kde4bindings
[18:26] <NCommander> python-qt4 doesn't properly handle qreal's on ARM
[18:26] <NCommander> anything trying to link against python-qt4 and use qreal will fly right into the same problem
[18:26] <ScottK-laptop> Let me know when you have a patch ...
[18:27] <NCommander> I probably won't have it until I get to UDS
[18:27] <ScottK-laptop> OK.
[18:27] <NCommander> And if you want it test built on ARM, might want to try next week :-)
[18:27] <ScottK-laptop> Yeah, well you're track record is pretty good.  I don't mind throwing a technically sound patch at the buildd's and seeing if it sticks.
[18:28] <NCommander> If this works, then we can remove some of the patches I've added to kde4libs :-)
[18:28] <NCommander> Yay for patch removals!
[18:31] <NCommander> bah, I knew I was forgetting something
[18:31]  * NCommander forgot his cell phones data cable
[19:05]  * NCommander grumbles
[19:06] <NCommander> Why do I keep making ~700 line patches
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> because you embrace pain!
[19:07] <manchicken> Mmm... Pain...
[19:07]  * NCommander hits JontheEchidna 
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> :P
[19:09]  * NCommander *really* hopes this works
[20:08] <chris062689> Whats up?
[20:13] <chris062689> Hello, world?
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger, ScottK: bug 272399
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> I probably need to do an SRU for that too
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.2 plasma applets use the "configure" button that triggers the crash everywhere (or at least the comic applet does now, and that's the most important applet :P)
[21:12] <ScottK-laptop> JontheEchidna: I got it.
[21:12] <JontheEchidna> cool, thanks
[21:13] <ScottK-laptop> Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main qt4-x11 4.4.3-1ubuntu4 (tar) [113MB]
[21:13] <ScottK-laptop> May be a few minutes though ...
[21:13] <smarter> the configure button doesn't crash here
[21:16] <ScottK-laptop> 98% [2 qt4-x11 111833872/113MB 99%] and it craps out ...
[21:16] <ScottK-laptop> Urgh.
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> smarter: it's giving the applet focus after configuring
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> that causes the crash
[21:17] <smarter> didn't happen here
[21:19] <Tm_T> BAH!
[21:19] <Tm_T> /usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:131: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘...’ before ‘&’ token
[21:19] <Tm_T> /usr/include/qt4/Qt3Support/q3listview.h:132: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘QColorGroup’ with no type
[21:21] <Riddell> missing a #include usually
[21:22]  * smarter would say #include <QColorGroup> :}
[21:22] <smarter> or rather: don't use no deprecated functions! :P
[21:22] <Tm_T> smarter: ye, I would say so too
[21:23] <Tm_T> kdenetwork, trunk
[21:23] <Tm_T> have to look at it tomorrow, now I need my sleep
[21:23] <Tm_T> good night kids and thanks (:)
[21:23] <smarter> 'night Tm_T
[21:29] <chris062689> hmmm
[21:29] <chris062689> Does KDevelop in the 8.10 repos, is that made for KDE 4 / QT 4 development?
[21:30] <chris062689> Like, if I make something with the designer, will that be in QT 4?
[21:30] <chris062689> Or does KDevelop still use KDE 3  /  QT 3 at this time+
[21:31] <smarter> I think it can be used for both
[21:31] <smarter> but it's the kde3 version of kdevelop of course
[21:32] <smarter> for designer, well it depends on which version of designer is installed
[21:33] <Riddell> #kubuntu for user questions
[21:33] <NCommander> hey Riddell
[21:34]  * smarter is off to bed
[21:34] <smarter> 'night guys
[21:36] <NCommander> night smarter
[21:43] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: So earlier you were saying if we smack JontheEchidna around enough kde4bindings will build?
[21:44] <ScottK-laptop> BTW JontheEchidna, qt4-x11 test build started.  Given how long it took just to build the source package, I expect I'll know in a week or tw.
[21:44] <ScottK-laptop> tw/two
[21:44] <NCommander> ScottK-laptop, probably
[21:44] <NCommander> ScottK-laptop, anyway, I think I have a breakthrough w.r.t. to python-qt4 (and thus kde4bindings)
[21:44] <ScottK-laptop> Excellent.
[21:57] <jjesse-dell> afternoon from minneapolis airport
[22:03] <chris062689> Is KDevelop in the 8.10 repos made for creating KDE 4 apps, or KDE 3?
[22:04] <ScottK> chris062689: #kubuntu for user questions.
[22:10] <jjesse-dell> Riddell: you kicking everyone off #fosscamp?
[22:49] <ScottK> Riddell: If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd binary New mlt.  I'm waiting on to to look at updating kdenlive
[22:59] <FireRabbit> hey nixternal, you around?