[00:00] The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. [00:00] own like that [00:00] freedesktop.org is also having the issue.. [00:00] seems they got some server issues going on.. or somthing [00:02] wrks fine for me [00:03] look you guys this is out of control. everything is insanely slow. and it keeps crashing. i am installing opensuse. i dont care if they did sign a contract with m$ i cant take it anymore. [00:04] snakeface: What Video card? [00:04] its an intel onboard. [00:04] 856m i think ill have to check again [00:04] * dr_willis has missed most of the problem... [00:05] 865 actually. [00:05] i love the ubuntu community to death, but i am just going to have to back off until things get worked out. because i cant install kde3 again... [00:07] you can actually [00:07] not on intrepid [00:07] snakeface, did you getting a restricted driver option , when you first installed kubuntu ? [00:07] Why don't you just turn off compositing [00:07] snakeface: I had the same problem with fedora 10's OSS ati drivers they used. Made KDE slow as hell.. I came to Kubuntu for their seamless integration of the proprietary fglrx drivers [00:07] BluesKaj: no. [00:07] snakeface: Go with what works [00:08] I am keeping kubuntu on my laptop though. it runs fine with my ati card. [00:08] intel onboard graphics usually work fine afaik [00:08] BluesKaj: There is no restricted driver for an Intel card [00:08] ok [00:08] snakeface: what happens if you turn off compositing? [00:08] i find kde4 sluggish on most all my hardware. :( [00:09] i have just been working on this for so many hours, and it is so hard to work on because everything is so slow.... [00:09] DaSkreech: nothing. still get massive distortion and corruption and slowness. [00:09] snakeface: ugh [00:10] This is a very old computer. I might just have to switch to gnome or something less heavy. [00:10] Hello [00:10] ahh bingo [00:10] ?? [00:10] lol [00:10] as soon as i can get a usb keyboard, i am just going to set up my t60 laptop as my desktop [00:10] hehe? [00:10] so does dragon player have any notable new features in 4.2? [00:10] I see [00:10] Hmmm/.. [00:11] "D [00:11] :D [00:11] Interesting [00:11] jell o l [00:11] snakeface: What's the specs? [00:11] I seee [00:11] 512 ram, p4, onboard intel video. [00:11] sigma20: Didn't notice anything [00:11] My PC is a Dell Inspire 9200 [00:11] inspiron [00:12] Acer aspire one [00:12] its a dell diminsion something [00:12] snakeface: Mine has less power :) [00:13] Well other than the Videocard :( [00:13] the t60 has 4g ram and is awesome to the max [00:13] the vido card is the big issue. and i cant find one that will fit in it. [00:13] I'll try not 2 destroy my acer when I upgrade the ram [00:14] hey guys, how do I perminently mount a hdd? [00:14] Perminetly? [00:14] Like..Installing an HDD? [00:14] Did you buy your HDD OEM? [00:15] Or did it come with cables? [00:17] i mean to mount it so I can access my music from it Adola [00:17] USB or internal drive? [00:17] what filesystem? [00:17] internal [00:17] ntfs [00:17] Ok. Well. [00:17] Whats the air speed of a sparrow? [00:17] :P [00:17] Do you have the HDD? [00:17] On you? [00:17] lol [00:17] it's all connected up [00:17] 40 knots. [00:17] generate a proper line in /etc/fstab for the drive using the ntfs-config tool. Is one way to get it done [00:18] eee [00:18] netsplit ftl [00:18] i ALWAYS seem to survive em though! :P [00:18] Pow! [00:18] :) [00:19] nice [00:20] snakeface: fit it? [00:21] !fstab | Cannon [00:21] Cannon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [00:22] Cannon: Everyone survives a netsplit :) [00:23] not if they don't have autojoin DaSkreech, lol [00:23] You don't get kicked by a netsplit [00:26] DaSkreech: Fit what now? [00:27] snakeface: You said you couldn't get one to fit it [00:28] on its a regualr pci slot, and i couldnt find one at the shop. [00:29] no pci express. === root is now known as Guest85888 [00:51] hey, what's the name of the KDE admin console? [00:51] I'm on ssh, trying to tunnel it over here. [00:53] #kubuntu-es [00:55] e-head: What? [00:55] snakeface: oooooh Yeah [00:55] i'm just trying to start up the KDE admin console. [00:55] So I can change the KDE theme. [00:55] you know what it's name is? [00:56] ah [00:56] systemsettings [00:56] thanks [01:27] i'm on intrepid and just installed the kde4 packages from the unstable repo. it caused conflicts. now, i want to remove my kde4 packages and reinstall them so its clean. i uninstalled kubuntu-desktop but it only removed the metapackage [01:27] how do i remove the kde4 packages? is tehre a metapackage for that? [01:34] wers: Remove kdelibs5 [01:34] I am using Kubuntu Hardy, how can I add a new group/user please? [01:34] Does anyone know how I prevent "Update Notifier" from notifying to upgrade two particular packages? [01:35] thanks DaSkreech :D [01:35] Zehava: KDE3? [01:35] kde4 [01:35] r11t: Pin them in aptitude [01:35] Zehava: System Settings -> users and groups [01:36] DaSkreech: I tried using sudo aptitude hold package_name [01:36] it still notifies me that I can upgrade that package [01:36] DaSkreech Users and Groups does not exist in the System Settings General or Advanced tab [01:37] I just now installed kusers-kde4 I should probably log out/in to activate it? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:47] Hello [01:48] !hi [01:48] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [01:50] is it possible, and at what difficulty level(as I'm new to linux as a whole) to remove kde4 and install kde3 instead on Kubuntu Hardy? [01:53] Zehava: probably install kubuntu-desktop, and remove kdelibs5 (yes, 5) [01:54] and that won't totally fry my system? it will just remove those things in turn? [01:54] removing kdelibs5 should remove everything kde4 related [01:54] and installing kubuntu-deskotp will give you all the software in a kubuntu-kde3 install [01:54] alright, it's a start, thanks a ton === ziggy__ is now known as Brunn [02:12] alguém aí pra ajudar um recém chegado ao kubuntu? [02:13] !es | dacarpe [02:13] dacarpe: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [02:14] en esta saleta se habla espanhol? [02:14] I have found a way to get a screensaver thats made for Windows working if, i know how to convert a wsf file [02:14] wow [02:14] Hi, all, I need a good music player to do the following I have a firefly server, but I don't know what to use to see the music from the server Firefly is like the share ITunes library option, but on Linux I need a client like Banshee or somehing, and how to use it to listen to daap [02:14] I didnt know [02:14] sorry [02:15] im from brazil and i thoght that the irc channel were already in portuguese [02:15] Anyone know how to use Amerarock to play something, I can't figure it out [02:15] Americarock? [02:16] how do i convert a swf to gif ? [02:17] Amerock, the GNome music player [02:20] the gnome music player? [02:20] Yes [02:20] lol, since when? === allan__ is now known as wers [02:21] Since when, what? [02:21] alex_21: amerok is the KDE music player, not gnome. [02:21] in order to play music, you will need to have your codecs installed === r11t_ is now known as r11t [02:22] jmichael do you know how to convert a swf to gif ? [02:22] alex_21: if you haven't already, run this in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras' [02:22] How do you do this, I need MP3 and the like, and only have mplayer installed with only acess to the command line [02:23] wesley: i do not know. try google. [02:24] because i have found out that screensaver is just a swf file === root is now known as Guest8442 [02:25] Oh, ok, I see, blind smileym, or not, but anyway, now that that is installed will I be able to use Amerarock to play this stuff over the network [02:25] ? [02:25] and Linux should be able to play and convert swf files [02:25] alex_21: i have never tried that with amerok, although it may be able to do what you want [02:26] its called Amarok [02:26] how do I change screen brightness on kde4? :D [02:26] yes, amarok. sorry for the misspelling. [02:27] Ok, confused smiley, then how would I do this [02:28] I mean, I can't play the music in my local collection either [02:29] i am not sure alex. try the forums. the way i play networked music is using a command line player called moc, and using ssh or sshfs. kind of complicated... but i am sure there are simpler ways. [02:30] Anyone ever used ATunes? [02:33] Does anyone know how I can find out the "Video Profile" of a video file? [02:35] Hi, all, I need a good music player to do the following I have a firefly server, but I don't know what to use to see the music from the server Firefly is like the share ITunes library option, but on Linux I need a client like Banshee or somehing, and how to use it to listen to daap [02:36] Preferably gnome based [02:38] :) [02:41] :) === root is now known as Guest38848 [02:50] i was woundering, how can one know there password's if they don't remember them??? [02:51] lol [02:51] i reformat the hard drive and now i don't remember any of password's to any website account's or even the im's [02:51] yeah i know laugh it up [02:51] that's what backups are for [02:52] i know that now [02:52] i'm still try'n to get the hang of linux after useing it for like 3 to 4 week's [02:52] skii69: and the foxmarks plugin for firefox saves your bookmarks and passwords to a central server [02:52] live and learn that's what many do [02:53] got it jmod [02:53] solid_liq: ok and i'm srry to say i do NOT know what ur talk'n about [02:58] well if you can still get into your email and asuming you've used the same email to register your "website" account's you could go to each account and tell them you've forgot the password. [02:59] Hi, I have a question about openarena...does anyone here play ? I changed monitors from an old 19" crt to a 15" flat panel, and now the resolution is all screwed up...I tried changing it in game, and that doesn't work, and I deleted everything in .openarena, to wipe out old settings.....and that didn't work either.....anyone have any idea's ? === Brunn is now known as ziggy [03:01] skii69 - in Firefox, Tools->Addons->Get Addons search for foxmarks, and install it ;) [03:01] skii has left [03:07] Hello all? my friends [03:08] hello [03:08] Hey! [03:08] yo [03:08] I'm Russian, i very bad speak english :) [03:09] Гы, не поймёте нихера =D [03:14] !ru [03:14] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [03:15] faunris, /join #ubuntu-ru [03:15] гы [03:15] thanks [03:23] heres a lol. after all of this, i cant even burn a cd to get another distro on here. [03:24] why wont it let me burn a cd? [03:30] does it give an error when you try to burn a cd ? [03:43] anyone know how to make the /etc/resolv.conf static? === prateek is now known as Guest26020 === Guest26020 is now known as prateek [03:48] anyone know how to make the /etc/resolv.conf static? [03:50] what's the plasma dashboard all about? [03:53] hello [03:53] linux29684: try using "supersede domain-name-servers DNS0 DNS1 DNS2;" in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf (see man dhclient.conf) [03:54] e-head: it just shows all the applets you have [03:54] let me try that [03:54] i thought i tried it once [03:55] i am trying to get firefox to associate a torrent file with ktorrent but when I download the file and choose 'open with' i don't know where to look [03:55] pirky: /usr/bin/ktorrent [03:55] stdin: thanks i thought i tried that let me try again [03:56] stdin: let me trya reboot and see if that works [03:57] stdin: that worked not sure where i was looking [03:58] ahh [03:58] you'll find most installed applications in /usr/bin [03:58] thanks. [03:58] is the only way to get openoffice 3 still to download the file and manually install === kaiser is now known as Guest22495 [03:59] seeing is it's not part of intrepid, yeah [04:00] stdin: didn't work [04:00] when i rebooted, it went back to the same dns settings [04:01] the sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf didn't work either [04:01] what's the website for the paste bin thing??? [04:01] linux29684: try using "prepend" instead of "supersede" [04:01] !paste | skii69 [04:01] skii69: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [04:01] that is what it was before supersede [04:02] try it again anyway? [04:02] the reason why is cuz i'm trying to run Stepmania and it's NOT work'n so i am gonna paste it and hopefully someone can help me out with it??? [04:02] it should work if you use DHCP [04:02] the vpn client won't clean the dns up [04:03] how can i test to see if anything works without rebooting? [04:03] and is there a certain way to lock the /etc/resolv.conf from changing? [04:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/81723/ [04:04] can someone help me with stepmania??? [04:04] that's the link in my terminal on what i got from trying to run it [04:04] from trying to run stepmania [04:05] linux29684: you could try a "workaround", edit /etc/rc.local and put in something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/81725/ [04:05] stdin: put everything from cat to EOF? [04:06] can anyone help me out??? [04:06] or just the nameservers [04:06] linux29684: the whole thing, it will put everything between "cat << EOF > /etc/resolv.conf" and "EOF" into /etc/resolv.conf [04:07] ok, and does a /etc/init.d/networking restart allow me to check w/o reboot? [04:07] linux29684: it will do that after the system has booted, but I don't know if network manager will try to overwrite it on connect [04:07] i'll try again, rebooting [04:08] can anyone help me out with stepmania??? [04:08] skii69: I suggest you try http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/User_Help_and_Support [04:09] someone has to have had this cd burning problem before [04:09] i already did and still got no where [04:10] intrepid will not recognize a blank cd. [04:10] skii69: well we can't really help, as we have nothing to do with that product or how it works [04:10] stdin: still no go [04:10] linux29684: what get's put into /etc/resolv.conf after you connect? [04:11] the vpn dns servers (even though the kvpnc is not running) [04:11] stepmania is a dance game [04:11] lol [04:11] lot's of ppl know that [04:11] lol [04:11] skii69: well, lol, we don't make it [04:11] i imagine this is a regular issue, but i cant find it on the forums. i heard someone in here asking about it yesterday [04:11] i know [04:11] lol [04:11] <[skysurfer]> hey guys, every time my kernel upgrades, my machine wont boot. It updates my /boot/grub/menu.lst file with the new kernel info (like it should) but grub gets the root entry wrong. It updates it as (hd4,0) but it should be (hd0,0). Just wondering if there is a way i can fix this so when updates come down I don thave to edit the boot command from grubs menu to get my system up again. [04:11] go to www.stepmania.com and u will learn about it really fast [04:11] ^_^ [04:12] i want to play a dance game [04:12] i am trying to get it to work on my computer but i can't and it's gett'n me very mad [04:12] its for linux? [04:12] yes [04:12] sweet. [04:12] skii69: we can't help with it because we don't make it or have any technical knowledge of it [04:12] it's for window's, linux and mac [04:12] not for me [04:12] skii69: you'll have to ask them [04:12] don't be an ass [04:12] stdin: what about putting that data in all the rc.x? [04:13] skii69: read the channel topic, this is Kubuntu support, not anything-under-the-sun support [04:13] like i said, do NOT be an ass [04:13] but srsly, does anyone know anything about why i cant burn a cd? it must be something rather simple. [04:13] linux29684: /etc/rc.local get's ran after everything at boot [04:13] skii69, please stop [04:14] i just reinstalled 8.10 and updated fully and upon reboot grub lists xxxx.9 kernal and xxxx.7 [04:15] is space being taken up since it hasn't let go of the older kernal 'so to speak' [04:15] that game he was talking about does look awesome. but about this cd burning project... [04:15] stdin: all the data is still in the rc.local, what runs after that that can change the dns servers (the dns appears to be the same the kvpnc uses) [04:15] I can't burn one with my laptop or desktop. I never needed to until now. [04:16] i put the cd in and it spins, but it is not recognized. [04:16] pirky: probably about 10MB [04:16] snakeface: maybe try the network boot ubuntu cd? [04:16] linux29684: so it's something which happens after you login that's changing it [04:17] stdin: it appears so [04:17] stdin: let me check htop to see if a vpn client is running [04:17] so, is there anything better than this Adept program? [04:17] apt-get [04:17] depends on what you mean by better, there are alternatives [04:17] yeah. ;) [04:17] linux29684: what do you mean? I just want to burn a cd. [04:17] synaptic [04:17] synaptic is what i use instead of adept [04:17] hmm. I might give it a try. [04:18] apt-get install synaptic [04:18] I've used linux for years but I've never really used a desktop. I thought I would give KDE a try. [04:18] I like it a lot. It's much smoother than it was years ago. [04:18] But this adept program sort of seems like it's from another era or something. [04:18] stdin: dhcdbd looks suspecious, maybe that could be changing it? [04:18] if you're using Intrepid, then it's brand new [04:19] i do not like adept manager [04:19] i like the older version better. [04:19] I've just always used apt/dpkg. [04:19] which is probably just as good as any GUI manager, but... [04:19] that works best [04:19] why is grub listing .7 and .9 kernels after update, should i remove one [04:19] over all this new KDE4 is pretty slick. [04:19] there is really no need for a gui package manager [04:19] I may be persuaded to give up some of my console apps. [04:20] but does anyone know why i cant burn a cd? [04:21] linux29684: that looks like it's a service to get return dhcp configuration [04:21] found the fix [04:21] linux29684: do you use knetworkmanager? [04:21] hey! No package for katapult? [04:21] stdin: let me check the services starting up then, no, i used ubuntu intrepid, but they sent me here [04:21] is there another "launchy" type app for kde? [04:21] linux29684: so you use the network applet thing? [04:21] stdin: #ubuntu sent me here because they said yall might know the answer [04:22] yes, but not for vpnc [04:22] i use kvpnc which uses vpnc i think for the vpn (which should not startup) [04:22] (and i don't think it is starting up) [04:22] well that's usually responsible for writing /etc/resolv.conf [04:22] does the 1st line of the file have "# Generated by NetworkManager" ? [04:22] stdin: but it doesn't even start up and it keeps changing it, and then when i open and close it, it doesn't restore dns [04:23] let me check [04:23] its frustrating you guys wont acknowledge me. i really need to burn a cd. [04:23] # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) [04:23] ok [04:23] so it's getting that from DHCP somewhere [04:24] is your VPN network up? [04:24] they are dns servers that only the vpn would have changed (not opendns's) [04:24] no [04:24] whatismyip.com is my ip [04:24] snakeface: a person has to log an undisclosed number of hours in this channel before one is acknowledged. [04:25] snakeface: in fact, i am probably somewhat out of line in speaking to you at all at this point [04:25] linux29684: does anything like the vpn show in "ifconfig"? [04:25] anyone familiar with ati drivers? [04:25] no, just eth0 (wire), eth1 (wifi), and lo [04:25] snakeface: if no one knows, then no one answers [04:26] snakeface: i'm hope you know i'm teasing.... what kind of CD are you trying to burn? [04:26] !ati | scott97283429871 [04:26] scott97283429871: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto === laura is now known as laura__ [04:29] linux29684: when you connect now, do you manually set the DNS servers? [04:29] stdin: yes [04:30] stdin: the dns servers for the vpn don't work on all domains [04:30] stdin: for example: it resolves google, but not ubuntu.com or clusty (univ dns servers) [04:31] as far as I know, if you're getting the DNS from it, the network must have been connected (or attempted to connect). so I think it's an issue with Network Manager [04:32] stdin: i strongly agree [04:32] stdin: but i don't know how to get enough details to report it as a bug [04:32] I'm just trying to figure out where it stores the information of what to connect to [04:32] stdin: and traceroutes do not go through the vpn unless i connect [04:33] there have been several people in here the last week or so complaining about similar DNS issues [04:33] it might have been me, i have had this problem for a while [04:34] and no one anywhere knows how to fix it [04:34] i am not sure if its the ubuntu network manager or the kubuntu vpn gui [04:34] (kvpnc) [04:34] were you using different nicknames? [04:34] no, this same one [04:34] i don't think it was you then. [04:36] i wonder why i can't simply reinstall the network component of ubuntu? [04:36] can anyone give me a hand with my video driver [04:37] I dont mess with ati much any more.. so cant help [04:37] well, its not even that so much anymore [04:37] i had tried to log in to the VPN at the campus where i take classes using network manager, and got nowhere. i don't know whether that is my fault, or an issue with network manager. i eventually started using a bash script provided by the school to connect, which is working just fine. [04:37] stdin: what if i add a chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf to a script before most programs startup? [04:38] jmichaelx: kvpnc works fine for vpn connection [04:38] i had everything working, i downloaded envyng, and that dl'ed the driver for me [04:38] linux29684: it could work, I've never tried it [04:38] and it was going good. but i have two monitors so i wanted to set them both up. [04:38] linux29684: that is good to know [04:38] i went into displayconfig-gtk, and enabled my second monitor and said extend the desktop [04:38] stdin: do you know the script to edit with the chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf? [04:39] and it said i had to restart. so when i restarted, now i cant find a driver that wil work. everythiing i try . it always ends up havingg to go into safe graphics mode [04:40] how can i even like revert to the very origional driver? [04:40] stdin: or better yet, can i search inside files for the actual dns ip that it keeps changing it to to see where it originates from? [04:40] Hello, is there som1 who can help wif playin DVD & Kubuntu? [04:40] !multimedia | bigdaddy [04:40] bigdaddy: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications [04:40] linux29684: maybe search for in in ~/.kde [04:41] did search & no luv there, ver is 8.01? [04:41] linux29684: failing that, you could edit /etc/init.d/NetworkManager and put the chmod line in before the "case "$1" in" part [04:41] i am a newbie*, lol [04:43] jmichaelx: the blank cd is not recognized at all. [04:43] bigdaddy: reading those docks will help you. for one thing, you will need to install a meta-package called 'kubuntu-restricted-extras', but some things will need to be done before you can download and install those packages. [04:43] Point me to the md5 sums for the "kubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso" file. [04:44] snakeface: have you opened K3B after the CD has been inserted? [04:44] k, tq 4 yur help so far [04:44] jmichaelx: yes. [04:44] ScarySquirrel: should be located at the same place you downloaded it from [04:45] snakeface: and even K3B is behaving as if no blank CD is present? [04:45] docs* [04:45] do you want to Fuck with me? [04:45] * scrote pulls out a big knife [04:45] sounds like scrote wants to be banned [04:46] stdin: I thought so, but the web page at "http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download" lists no md5 sums, or any "hashes" for that matter. [04:46] ScarySquirrel: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.10/release/MD5SUMS [04:46] stdin: I thank you. [04:47] :) [04:47] stdin: Is there an easy way for me to return the favor? [04:47] can someone please help with video drivers [04:47] stdin: i found out 100% its a bug in kpvnc [04:47] hello everyone [04:47] ScarySquirrel: don't worry about it [04:48] scott97283429871: have you read through any of the documentation on installing the drivers for your video adapter? [04:48]