[00:00] Experiencing difficulty with first install of mythbuntu. I have an intel 2.8Ghz machine with 500mb ram, ati video card and dvico tv tuner. XP media center used to be installed and worked ok. I have managed to add the dvico tv card and scan for channels and add them. The epg works fine (I am in Australia). Play back of both tv and dvd is extremely jumpy if working at all. Under tv the first image appears then it stalls [00:01] Sounds like a video driver issue, I don't know anything about ATI though sorry. [00:02] thanks hads. does mythtv use a different video driver to what vlc player would? [00:03] Driver no, does VLC playback fullscreen video? [00:04] not sure, only tested in window, was a large window if that helps [00:05] I see, may not be a driver issue then. You might check the mythtv logs; [00:05] !logs [00:05] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [00:06] what should I be looking for in the logs? [00:07] Something relating to playback [00:12] under /var/Vorg there are a lot of messages relating to 3d driver does not support visual. [00:13] I think I will need to log into this chat on the machine in question, running between rooms isnt making this easy [00:14] MythbuntuGuest57, have ou installed the proprietary ATI drivers? [00:14] go out of mythtv to the desktop, it should appear on the taskbar. you'll also want to change your update sources and get your other software updated as well [00:17] Installing java on other machine now to enter this chat. [00:17] I have installed the ati driver, as you said it appeared in the task pane and I installed it [00:18] Also did a check for updates and installed all recommended [00:18] MythbuntuGuest57, which ATI card? [00:19] ati card is some cheap one, not sure, will see if I can see something on the card [00:19] MythbuntuGuest57, lspci | grep VGA [00:22] MythbuntuGuest57: you may want to update your sources. the default settings don't go well for updates. Applications>System>software sources [00:23] ARGH [00:23] my PCI card screwed up again. gonna have to reseat the card... [00:24] vga compatitible controller ATI Technologies Inc RV370 Sapphire X550 Silent [00:24] Heh. my HTPC has an X600 [00:24] so if I ever get my tv card working I might get the same problem. [00:24] definaltey grepping this conversation :P [00:25] MythbuntuGuest57, lsmod | grep fglrx [00:30] fglrx 1813960 23 agpgart 421842 fglrx, intel_agp [00:30] MythbuntuGuest57, post your Xorg.0.log to pastebin [00:31] ok to do that I will need to be on the pc itself. Just installed java on it. Will log back into this chat from there. [00:32] ssh? [00:33] VNC? [00:35] pastebinit [00:35] mythbuntu log grabber [00:36] welcome to the party hads [00:36] ;) [00:36] I had enought partying last night thanks :) [00:37] * hads is feeling it a little [00:37] lol [00:37] for some reason installing java didnt fix accessing this chat online. fox, do I just enter those commands in terminal or is pastebin for this chat? [00:38] !pastebin [00:38] when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [00:39] i see. [00:39] MythbuntuGuest57, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log [00:39] then you can paste it into pastebin [00:40] thanks so much for the help thus far. will be back when I do all that [00:56] oh, fer.... [00:57] great. now when my system boots, the monitor turns itself off. [00:57] even ctrl+alt+F1 doesen't work [01:13] ok, got that back [01:13] next step [01:13] I'm not getting any signal [01:34] yeah.. no signal wahtsoever [01:37] argh [01:37] keep getting tuning failed errors [01:38] .... [01:38] -falls over- [01:38] nevermind. [01:38] NPI error [01:59] foxbuntu: yt? [02:00] or anyone else know how to refresh the music listing/tags? [02:00] also the port for the myth web? [02:51] blahrus_, port for mythweb? 80? [02:51] backendip/mythweb [02:52] tgm4883_laptop: tks [02:53] holy crap, I can play my MP3's from mythweb!@# ? [02:59] tgm4883_laptop: did you see my message as well about the mp3's? [02:59] yes [02:59] is that something else to do? [03:00] I don't do a whole lot with mythweb other than scheduling recording stuff [03:00] no I was talking about updating the file/tags [03:00] like I used easy edit [03:00] ah [03:00] to update the tags that weren't right [03:12] I just ran a script incorrectly that sorta ruined all of my metadata for videos, doubled/tripled entries etc... and I'm sort've interested in writing a ruby script to fix everything. Am I free to sort of truncate and resubmit everything in the videometadata tables? [03:13] I said sort of a lot there, excellent. [03:22] stiev3, IIRC, you should be able to truncate the tables [03:22] the videometadata table that is [03:22] don't do the others ;) [03:23] IIRC, thats what I do when testing mythvideo-bulk-updater [03:24] videometadatacast and the like, country, genre have associations from the looks of it so do they gotta go too? [03:25] stiev3, no, I just kill the first table [03:25] sec, let me make sure thats the right table [03:26] hmm [03:26] yea I kill that first table but not the rest [03:27] interestingly enough, perhaps that is why I have 82 pages of data in videometadatacast [03:28] Ok I'll play around with it. It can't get any worse than it is now for me haha, and if i do something really stupid I'll just use that as an excuse to go to 8.10 [03:28] eh, to each his own [03:28] I'd stick with 8.04 for a backend, unless you need something in 8.10 [03:29] just because if it aint broke, dont fix it ;) [03:31] inetref in videometadata is the imdb id, this might be obscure but if that's blank ie: I scrape from elsewhere and don't bother filling that in, am I going to catch error messages? [03:32] actually I'll just see where I get with it, thanks for the help. [03:33] np [03:33] I have to go kill some survivors anyway ;) [03:38] 2008-12-06 21:33:17.585 There are no channel sources defined, did you run the setup program? [03:38] what's the command to run setup again? [03:39] blahrus_, mythtv-setup [03:39] tgm4883_laptop: tks, I guess I didn't setup a channel source [03:39] :) [04:15] oi oi [04:45] foxbuntu: around? [05:31] hi, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask about IR blasters.. i'm stuck with an unbranded cable box and i'm finding it impossible to learn the codes from the remote, i've found out that it uses the NEC protocol.. does anyone have any tips on a way to find codes, i'm kind of stumped at the moment, thanks. [10:01] I am working on getting my mythbuntu install to work well and know this chat will be very handy on the pc Im working on. Unfortunately I cannot get this web chat to work I installed the java apps but nothing shows up when I browse to this page in firefox. any ideas? === bogus is now known as Guest44074 === Guest44074 is now known as bogus- [10:02] MythbuntuGuest96: well, it's working? [10:03] on my windows pc upstairs not on the mythbuntu pc downstairs [10:03] well, you can install an IRC client, point it to irc.freenode.net and join #ubuntu-mythtv [10:03] I would have thought installing the java in add/remove would have been enough [10:04] would you recommend pigeon or x-chat? [10:04] sorry pidgin [10:04] whatever works for you :) [10:04] i don't think you will java [10:05] you will need java* [10:05] i'll see how I go, thanks. I'll also try java* [10:07] gah [10:07] sorry, i meant to say that you probably won't need java [10:08] oh, you do [10:08] that's silly. [10:12] thanks laga, learning all sorts of new stuff today [10:15] so to my mythbuntu problem. I have a fresh install of mythbuntu that was very jerky and did not play tv or dvd well. VLC player played a dvd no problems in full 5.1 sound. foxbuntu was helping me earlier and we go to the point were I was going to post a log of my Xorg.0 to pastebin. I will do that soon. Since, my mythtv frontend no longer seems to be responding. I opens and I can browse the main menus but I select watch tv or wa [10:17] your posting is cut off after "watch tv" [10:17] i'm having trouble with lirc and the remote control for a hauppauge hvr-1300. I get output from mode2, but after an hour of googling and tampering with irrecord and /etc/lirc/lircd.conf I'm not getting any output from irw [10:18] is there any way i can pick apart the channel betweeen /dev/lirc0 (which seems to work) and lircd, so i can see where it's losing my button presses? [10:18] after watch tv, it hangs on the menu page and I have to hit esc to exit. [10:19] Xorg.0 pastebin http://www.mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7d76cf25 [10:19] HelpMe1: you should probably post mythbackend and mythfrontend logs as well [10:22] mythbackend log http://www.mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m6ba4d925 [10:23] mythfrontend log http://www.mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m1627fd5c [10:23] this looks suspicious [10:24] # [10:24] 2008-12-07 18:50:06.783 VideoOutputXv Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface. [10:24] # [10:24] 2008-12-07 18:50:06.788 VideoOutputXv: Falling back to X11 video output over a network socket. [10:24] # *** May be very slow *** [10:24] doesn't explain why it would hang though [10:24] but it would explain your original problem [10:25] so that error is applicable only to mythtv? [10:25] being very slow is exactly what was happening for the dvd play back. like i said vlc had no issues though [10:26] HelpMe1: what VGA card do you have? [10:26] well the problem is likely that the graphics card driver is not offering the kind of functionality that mythtv needs [10:28] hi all people [10:28] vga compatible controller ATI technologies Incorporated RV370 Sapphire X550 Silent [10:28] when I did an update it said new driver for ati and I installed and activated. [10:29] firegl, from the looks of the log.. I'm not an expert on reading X logs, to me it looks like it is loading several different gfx drivers in the same session. Including the vesa framebuffer driver [10:30] it also looks like you have aiglx enabled (compiz GL accelerated UI) [10:30] you might want to try turning such stuff off, as it could limit mythtv [10:31] why mythtv start recording any time i see any channel? if i try changing channels they start recording all channels, and the consum of memory use all (apologize about my english) [10:31] what is the best way to go about turning this off to narrow down the error? [10:32] try starting gnome-appearance-properties and go to the visual effects tab [10:32] set visual effects to none [10:33] is that under applications or in terminal? [10:33] you will find it as "Appearance" in the preferences menu of gnome [10:34] or you can just start it fron the terminal [10:34] terminal says it is not installed, installing now [10:35] oh... heh [10:35] just check that it isn't installing a million packages just for that [10:36] i think it is, how do I stop it? [10:37] only a few minutes to go [10:37] ok [10:38] https://groups.google.com/group/x1250/browse_thread/thread/462f590ec2ba015e [10:39] looks like it's a known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/197639 [10:39] there seems to be a solution proposed lower down in that bug [10:45] looks like a couple of solutions proposed though mixed results. [10:48] under appearance preferences, I got a warning when openning that it may conflict with other desktop managers. Under visual effects I cannot make a selection from the three options but the none radio button is selected. [10:51] is this command correct gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add the Option "TexturedVideo" "on"? [10:52] also since the gnome-appearance-properties did not work out how can I stop some of those other settings? [10:53] HelpMe1: i think if you make the changes recommended there, you will stop those other settings [10:53] yeah you can use gedit to edit the file [10:53] as long as you are running as superuser [10:54] wow, mythbuntu doesnt come with much installed, even gedit! [10:54] hehe... try nano then [10:54] same command except replace gedit with nano? [10:54] yes [11:01] I'm entering this Section "Device" [11:01] Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]" [11:01] Driver "fglrx" [11:01] BoardName "ati" [11:01] Option "VideoOverlay" "on" [11:01] Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" [11:01] Option "TexturedVideo" "on" [11:01] Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" [11:01] Option "UseFastTLS" "2" [11:01] Option "RenderAccel" "true" [11:01] BusID "PCI:1:0:0" [11:01] EndSection [11:01] I'm not sure about the busid part? isnt this kind of thing computer specific? [11:02] yes it is, don't take that from some web page [11:02] you might not even need it, skip it if you didn't have it before [11:02] the time when you do need it would be when you have several gfx cards and you need to identify which hardware you are referring to [11:02] well I entered eveything else. If it doesnt work I'll try with textured video off like someone else suggested. wil;l i need to reboot to test? [11:03] you will need to restart x windows... you can usually press ctrl+alt+backspace to do that [11:03] how do I exit nano and save? [11:03] ctrl-X [11:05] hmm permissioned denied. guess I should have su first? any chance of not having to type all that again? [11:05] start another and copy+paste :P [11:06] hmm, all i have to do is type su right, then my password? [11:07] for some reason I get authentication failer after i enter my password [11:07] i only ever entered on password when i installed mythbuntu [11:07] try sudo instead [11:08] it asks me this usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v [11:08] usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value] [11:08] {-i | -s | } [11:08] usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ... [11:08] huh... what did you type? [11:08] sudo [11:09] well yeah, you need to write sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:09] ahhh [11:11] ok all go. so just to confirm sudo is used infront of a command when you want to run the command as a super user and su sets up all following commands to be run as a super user? [11:13] no sudo and su can do basically the same things (run shell or just run a single command). The difference is that with sudo you authenticate with your current user's password (and sudo optionally checks if you can perform that command against a list in /etc/sudoers), whereas su takes the root password and does not use any list of restrictions for what you can do [11:16] wasnt prepared for that restart of x windows. [11:16] no sudo and su can do basically the same things (run shell or just run a single command). The difference is that with sudo you authenticate with your current user's password (and sudo optionally checks if you can perform that command against a list in /etc/sudoers), whereas su takes the root password and does not use any list of restrictions for what you can do [11:17] ok. so if you havent set up a su password, it is the same as sudo and su wont work [11:18] more or less yeah [11:18] but sudo is really intended as an improvement or to complement su [11:18] it's used somewhat differently in ubuntu [11:20] ok so mythtv is still hanging on selection of watch tv or watch dvd. Is there any way to reinstate mythtv settings? Thing is it worked, very badly when I first installed, now it doesnt at all. I will change textured to off and try again but I have a feeling perhaps something I set in the options of mythtv has caused the menus to hang rather then just work very badly. [11:21] what package manager are you using? [11:22] package manager? [11:22] as in add remove? [11:22] yes [11:23] under applications / system there is add remove. thats what i use. [11:23] ok [11:23] i don't know of that also removes configuration files [11:24] i guess you could manually delete them .mythtv/* and /etc/mythtv/* after uninstalling the mythtv packages [11:24] *know if that [11:25] could I use a package manager that would remove the mythtv config files? [11:25] there is one called aptitude that i use [11:26] it has a text-based user interface [11:26] you select a package and press '_' to mark it for purge (i.e. remove both package and config files) [11:28] hmmm its not showing up under all available packages for installation [11:28] it's probably under "installed packages" [11:28] you can press '/' to search for packages [11:28] im off for lunch [11:29] thanks heaps for your help [11:29] i'd buy you lunch but yopu obviously arent in australia [13:45] The font sizes for text in myuthbuntu always appears to be too large - e.g. on the "previously recorded" screen, there isn't enough space to show program names etc. [14:05] you can adjust font sizes in the settings [14:09] I can't seem to change the fontsize of text in the "system status" page. [14:53] hi all [14:53] Someone know how make work XF86AudioMute by lirc? [15:16] bye [15:31] I need some help with Hauppage Nova T 500 and lircd, I can't get the remote to work properly, when I run /etc/init.d/lirc i get failed .... but the remote sends arrow keys and numbers [15:32] if I start lircd by hand I can see it in my ps but there is no difference [15:32] I have gotten configs from lirc webpage but I do not know how to troubleshoot it [15:48] i have the same problem with another hauppauge card, that's why i came here [15:49] it seems the guy who makes the lirc kernel drivers decided it was better to make it work like an input event source [15:49] so he started over to make the ir-kbd-i2c kernel module [15:49] it acts like a keyboard [15:51] flodin: do you have a fix for it ? [15:51] or does that mean we are screwed ? [15:51] I mean it is sending events [15:51] i don't have a fix, but i don't think it means we're screwed [15:52] ir-kbd-i2c is the "new" way of doing it... one way of using it is to use xmodmap to remap keys [15:52] i wanted to get it working the old fashioned way though [15:53] i was able to unload ir-kbd-i2c and load lirc_i2c instead [15:53] it creates /dev/lirc0 that i could read with mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 [15:54] so i'm getting the events... and i can generate an lircd config file with irrecord. But i haven't figured out how to get irw to pick up the events [16:02] thing is with the input event driver, irrecord doesn't seem to catch any input [16:03] hmmm seems like xmodmap would be easier [16:03] yeah the thing is i'm not seeing any input at all for some of the buttons [16:03] like channel+ and channel- [16:05] ah [16:07] but maybe that's just because they are not mapped to anything [19:38] flodin: heh there are quite a few keys not mapped as keys either xev reads nothing on those keys so it might be the hauppage driver [20:11] olterman: yeah... which is why the new solution seems worse to me [20:11] it moves the mapping table from user space to kernel space [20:11] on the mythtv wiki there is no mention of this problem [20:11] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI [20:12] it doesn't say a lot about the new driver at all [20:12] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ir-kbd-i2c [20:14] <_aegis> does anyone have a recent build list for a mythbuntu setup utilizing a front end (either in a black case or a htpc style antec or nmedia case) that is either all in one or has a separate backend? [20:15] i just ordered hardware for an all in one box [20:16] obviously i'm not 100% sure it will all work out since i didn't get the hardware yet [20:16] <_aegis> flodin: cool... when do you expect it? [20:16] but i did try out the tv card and it's working fine [20:16] <_aegis> flodin: Have you set one up before? [20:16] nope. In 2-4 days [20:19] this is the list from the email receipt [20:19] SAMSUNG DVD-ROM 16X/48X INTERN SATA BULK SVART [20:19] CORSAIR 2GB DDR2 PC6400 XMS2 XTREME (2X1GB) CAS4 [20:19] SCYTHE NINJA MINI CPU-KYLARE [20:19] D-LINK DWA-556 WIRELESS N W-LAN PCI-EXPRESS KOR [20:19] SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.11 500GB 7200RPM SATA/30 [20:19] ANTEC NSK2480-EC HTPC-CHASSI M-ATX [20:19] LOGITECH DINOVO MINI BLUETOOTH [20:19] GIGABYTE GA-EG45M-DS2H S-775 M-ATX [20:19] INTEL CORE 2 DUO E8400 3.0GHZ 6MB 1333MHZ S-775 [20:19] "chassi" is swedish and means case [20:20] also for tv card i got a hauppauge hvr-1300. I ordered that earlier to try it out first [20:20] so if i want to boot from a remote image do i need a dhcp server installed? [20:20] <_aegis> flodin: Nice... thanks... so you went with the NSK2480. Where you considering any others? [20:20] abarbaccia: i think that's documented in the manual [20:21] _aegis: only for a short while... but then i saw that the guy at silentpcreview was involved in the nsk2400 design, that was enough to make my mind up [20:21] laga: which manual? i want to do it with a flash card or USB if possible. [20:21] <_aegis> flodin: very cool.. thanks... [20:22] i have the antec P180 for my desktop (designed by the same guy) and i'm really happy with it, it's a great case [20:22] <_aegis> flodin: I guess you bought it all from one vendor? [20:22] yeah [20:22] abarbaccia: mythbuntu manual. i'm assuming you're referring to mythbuntu-diskless [20:23] they have a very nice walkthrough and review of the nsk2400 here http://www.silentpcreview.com/article591-page1.html [20:24] i think the two 120mm fans coupled with the ninja scythe mini will make it possible to run the cpu fanless [20:25] in two years or so i'm getting an SSD disk for it... then the only noise will come from two 600-rpm 120mm fans [20:28] laga: yes. i want to create a diskless frontend but dont want to put a DHCP server etc. I have a CF slot or a USB device that i can boot off of initially. will that setup work (hypothetically) [20:28] abarbaccia: i believe that's in the manual. read it, i wrote it for a reason :) [20:29] there are some uncommitted parts left on my hard disk, but it should be there [20:29] laga: fineeeee. i have it open and am scanning now [20:32] laga: mmmm fancy. you did it all for me in MCC already. Excellllllent. [20:42] <_aegis> flodin: how is the power supply in the nsk2400? [20:42] <_aegis> flodin: did you care about going the 80 plus route? [20:43] I have another question ... I raise and lower sound through XF86AudioLowerVolume etc ... and I get the bar raising and lowering and mute on and of but the sound volume doesn't change in myth [20:44] _aegis: well i don't know from first hand experience. But according to silentpcreview it's a bit noisy [20:45] what do you mean by 80 plus? [20:46] oh, some energy efficiency thing? [20:47] i didn't care much about the psu to be honest, i will replace it later if i'm not satisfied with it. For my desktop i have an antec psu that has more than 80% energy efficiency [20:47] antec phantom something [20:47] as far as i'm concerned it would have been better if no psu was included with the case [20:48] but since it is, i'll try with that to begin with [20:51] Any idea why my .avi's take 15 seconds to load since the last big update (Intrepid)? Used to take a second or two! [21:03] <_aegis> flodin: ahhh that's no good then... noise. [21:10] as far as i'm concerned it would have been better if no psu was included with the case [21:11] err wtf... accidental arrowup before enter [21:11] what i intended to say was: no, but i was spending enough money already :) I can improve on it gradually... going to replace the case fans, get a new psu, and buy SSD disks [21:11] in two years i think an SSD disk will be the obvious choice for a htpc [21:39] anyone have a rough eta on a replacement for the imdb script? [21:44] does that even work? [21:46] does what work? [21:46] imdb auto-fill in myth [21:47] yeah works pretty well but imdb does no longer allow it so it will stop working in time [21:48] but there is a replacement script being writen [21:48] i'm new to myth anyways [21:48] so far i'm dissatisfied with the non-TV stuff [21:48] what dont u like? [21:48] demand your money back ;) [21:49] hehe [21:49] and i didn't get my dvb card yet to try the tv stuff [21:49] well, a UPnP client would have been nice [21:49] DAAP one too [21:50] also MythStream seems totally useless [21:51] speaking of the replacement imdb script, has anybody tested it / is it in -fixes? [21:52] oh and will the replacement script be an update to 8.10 or will the weekly be needed? [21:53] i wonder if i'm missing something [21:53] but is MythStram supposed to work on 8.10 [21:53] what is mythstream again? [21:53] KK_laptop: well mythtv is first and most a tv dvr so that is where it is best [21:54] mythstream does need some configuring i think, i've never used it [21:54] mostly use the tv part and the movie part [21:55] i agree the mp3 player in mythtv is not the best but I use mpd + relaxx to play music [21:56] well i like basic streaming stuff in modern entertainment box [21:56] shoutcast and youtube perhaps [21:57] wouldn't really care for much else [21:58] mythvideo is great with the imdb-bulk-update and the metacleanup script [22:00] well, my videos are scattered on my other desktops really [22:00] so myth being a upnp client would have been real useful for me [22:01] now i have to fight with samba to get something approaching sharing [22:01] well samba is pretty easy to setup [22:02] as a server yea [22:02] client stuff is always messy [22:02] thats not my experience but [22:09] How do I get the remote that comes with nova-td 500 to work? [22:14] <_aegis> flodin: You still there? Any reason you went with the intel e8400 instead of the AMD 6000+ [22:17] * hads prefers Intel [22:23] <_aegis> flodin: that ninja heatsink mni has some great reviews [22:51] hello, i was hoping that someone could help me with an issue i have in mythvideo in Mythbuntu 8.10. For some reason the /home/mythtv/.mythtv/MythVideo folder is not being created so i can not download posters... [23:40] hey all [23:41] anyone try now playing patch for dvb with 8.10 [23:41] ? [23:42] nope, what is it? [23:42] displays who is playing on audio channels [23:43] ah, cool, i'll have to look into that one. show's info about the artist kind of thing? [23:43] yes [23:43] but i get a compile error [23:44] man, wish i could help... i'm hoping to get some help with a problem with MythVideo setup. [23:44] haven't tried compiling anything yet! :) [23:57] <_aegis> Does it even make sense to build a MythTV box with Verizon FIOS?