[01:44] <bazhang_> Jnelson? one and the same?
[01:45] <LjL> bazhang_: always him
[01:45] <bazhang_> wow
[01:45] <bazhang_> what was up with _21_ earlier?
[01:45] <LjL> bazhang_: and he's going to create trouble in several other channels, from the looks of it
[01:46] <LjL> bazhang: nothing really, he asked how to rm -rf /
[01:46] <LjL> bazhang: but i say "nothing really" because there was no mention of that in -ru
[01:46] <bazhang> LjL, ok, will have a word with him
[01:47] <elkbuntu> bazhang, how does the nick 'morgenstern' fit in with -ru?
[01:47] <LjL> germanly
[01:47] <elkbuntu> i dont know if it's a him or her, but they complained in -women earlier that they're banned from -ru.
[01:48] <elkbuntu> they were in -women to use us as support since #ubuntu wasnt answering at whim.
[01:58] <elkbuntu> bazhang?
[02:00] <JNelson> why dont you all come into the rooms i am like LJL
[02:01] <bazhang> elkbuntu, morgenstern?
[02:01] <bazhang> never heard of it
[02:01] <elkbuntu> yes
[02:01] <bazhang> LjL, no telling really, they speak in code of all kinds
[02:02] <bazhang> they even spell my name in cyrillic so I wont know they are talking about me
[02:02] <elkbuntu> bazhang, * Morgenstern (n=Morgenst@91.145.198.221) has joined #ubuntu-women
[02:03] <LjL> bazhang: no doubt about that - but 21 never spoke at all during that period
[02:03] <bazhang> LjL, you in -ru-ot as well?
[02:03] <LjL> bazhang: no
[02:03] <LjL> bazhang: but last time i checked, there were very few people in there
[02:03] <LjL> i decided i'd leave it
[02:04] <bazhang> I'd bet there, or via PM is where most of the plotting goes on LjL 
[02:04] <LjL> maybe
[02:05] <elkbuntu> or other channels on other servers
[02:05] <bazhang> elkbuntu, will check that out about morgenstern; the one issue is that the regular Russian operators are rarely if ever around; the original founder of the channel and the team are almost *never* there
[02:05] <bazhang> so they have some sort of proxy operators at this point as far as I can tell
[02:05] <elkbuntu> bazhang, yeah, i know. just wanted to know where they fitted in. maybe the ip is in the bans list?
[02:06] <elkbuntu> by proxy you mean sympathetic to the idiots?
[02:06] <LjL> elkbuntu: that's what easily results when appointly ops at semi-random
[02:06] <LjL> appointing
[02:08] <bazhang> by proxy = perhaps even in on the trolling raid plotting 
[02:08] <bazhang> not just to -women either
[02:09] <bazhang> elkbuntu, morgenstern is banned from -ru (or a clumsy ban of someone else) for over a month now.
[02:11] <elkbuntu> bazhang, aha. might i suggest it be lifted so that the individual can be monitored in natural habitat?
[02:11] <bazhang> heh
[02:11] <bazhang> in situ
[02:12] <LjL> elkbuntu, you've seen too many australian aboriginals...
[02:13] <elkbuntu> heh
[02:17] <Jnelson> I got one Question why was LJL entering everyroom that i was in.
[02:18] <bazhang> Jnelson, do you have a question regarding the #ubuntu channels?
[02:18] <Jnelson> no i want to know why he was doing that
[02:18] <bazhang> Jnelson, please see the /topic as to what this channel is for.
[02:19] <Jnelson> i dont care hes done this before i think
[02:19] <Jnelson> to me
[02:22] <Jnelson> Please i just want to know i am getting real stressed becase of this
[02:22] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, your previous visit indicates otherwise.
[02:23] <Jnelson> otherwise what
[02:23] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, your previous visit indicates that you are enjoying the attention, to the point you invited everyone in this channel to do the same.
[02:24] <Jnelson> Im not enjoying it was sarcasm
[02:24] <bazhang> Jnelson, please dont idle here
[02:24] <Jnelson> oh nm i dont even get sarcasm
[02:25] <Jnelson> Im not idiling i am waiting for an answer, and i dont get social policys right i have aspergers
[02:25] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, then you should avoid using things that your condition gets you in trouble with. places with rules for example, like freenode in general.
[02:27] <Jnelson> its social interaction i have trouble with ok and i admit i sometimes cant control myself when i run out of my medicine
[02:28] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, it's your responsibility to keep yourself medicated.
[02:28] <Jnelson> Control myself as in doing unpolite things like annoying people calling them names
[02:28] <Jnelson> I know
[02:28] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, it's NOT our responsibility to let you do as you please when you cannot keep yourself medicated.
[02:28] <Jnelson> SO why was he doing it, thats all i want to know and i wont go on freenode again 
[02:29] <LjL> Jnelson, which part of this channel's intended topic, as pointed out to you, wasn't particularly clear?
[02:29] <Jnelson> why where you doing it ljl
[02:29] <LjL> Jnelson, which part of this channel's topic is not clear to you?
[02:29] <elkbuntu> LinuxGuyMarshall, can we help you?
[02:29] <LjL> LinuxGuyMarshall: hi, hold on a moment please
[02:29] <LinuxGuyMarshall> I would like to request an unban of myself on #ubunut, and I will wait
[02:30] <LinuxGuyMarshall> #ubuntu *
[02:30] <Jnelson> I dont care about the topic i just want an answer and i will leave freenode forever i swear
[02:30] <bazhang> LinuxGuyMarshall, do you know why you were banned?
[02:30] <LinuxGuyMarshall> Yes
[02:30] <LjL> Jnelson: if you don't care about a channel's topic, then you shouldn't be in that channel to begin with.
[02:30] <LjL> bye.
[02:31] <bazhang> LinuxGuyMarshall, I recall removing you but not banning you
[02:31] <LinuxGuyMarshall> I do not have access atm
[02:31] <LjL> Jnelson: ... which might have to do with the answer to your very question, anyway, if you think about it.
[02:31] <Jnelson> what the aspergert part
[02:32] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, no.
[02:32] <LinuxGuyMarshall> bazhang, '/join #ubuntu' returns '*| Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).'
[02:32] <Jnelson> what part than i wil leave
[02:33] <bazhang> LinuxGuyMarshall, were you banned for some language issue?
[02:34] <LinuxGuyMarshall> bazhang, correct. I left my computer to do some work on another across the house and asked my friend to watch it and wait for a response. But he began to use foul language
[02:34] <LinuxGuyMarshall> But I acknowledge that that is all on me
[02:35] <bazhang> LinuxGuyMarshall, no worries, you were removed but not banned, but were using a proxy at the time so the bots banned you.
[02:36] <LinuxGuyMarshall> Ah, so how can I fix that problem?
[02:37] <Jnelson> Im leaving freenode forever bye and thats forever 
[02:37] <bazhang> bye
[02:37] <Jnelson> i swear i will never go on freenode again bye
[02:38] <Jnelson> what else is new this p1 computer takes forever to close
[02:38] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, i'll believe it when i see it.
[02:38] <Jnelson> i will just hard power off this computer
[02:38] <Jnelson> bye
[02:40] <elkbuntu> Jnelson, if you're waiting for us to plead for you to stay, dont bother. it's not going to happen.
[02:40] <bazhang> LinuxGuyMarshall, you are free to re-enter ubuntu
[02:40] <LinuxGuyMarshall> bazhang, Thank you
[02:43] <bazhang> never knew that the floodbots would do that on a remove
[02:44] <bazhang> so the syntax for a time-limited +m would be what?
[02:44] <LjL> bazhang: only on removing mibbit users
[02:44] <LjL> hmm?
[02:44] <LjL> there would be none
[02:44] <LjL> you can script that
[02:44] <bazhang> muting that would expire after a time? LjL is that possible?
[02:45] <LjL> bazhang: only if you script that in your client
[02:45] <bazhang> I'll ask in #xchat :)
[02:45] <LjL> not a native irc feature
[02:45] <LjL> bazhang: i believe chanserv.py and friends have that
[02:45] <bazhang> LjL, thanks, just being lazy :)
[02:47] <elkbuntu> they do?
[02:47] <LjL> i've never used them, i thought they did though
[02:50] <elkbuntu> not features i've ever been made aware of
[02:50] <bazhang> not in chanserv.py from what the link reveals
[02:51] <jdong> AFAIK auto_bleh.pl does
[02:52] <LjL> ah yes i was probably confusing the two
[03:01] <elkbuntu> bazhang, i think he meant what he said. he seems to think linux is an extreme thing to do to a computer.
[03:02] <bazhang> elkbuntu, certainly
[03:41] <bazhang> @bansearch n2diy
[04:25] <bazhang> @bansearch skii89
[04:25] <bazhang> oops
[04:25] <bazhang> @bansearch skii69
[04:26] <stdin> I removed the mute after they quit
[04:27] <bazhang> ok
[04:27] <bazhang> he is in #ubuntu now
[04:28] <stdin> then he's officially "your problem" ;)
[04:28] <stdin> I did /msg him after I muted, but got no response fwiw
[05:41] <bazhang> power user?
[06:35] <elkbuntu> christel, are you there?
[08:14] <bazhang> * [wahnnfrieden] (n=www@c-71-232-76-78.hsd1.ma.comcast.net): www <--in -ot
[08:15] <elkbuntu> bazhang, eh?
[08:15] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Talking abotu beating up his parents, etc.  Keep an eye on him
[08:16] <elkbuntu> ugh
[08:16] <bazhang> seems to be trolling
[08:21] <bazhang> scrote in #kubuntu ? someone want to intervene there?
[08:22] <elkbuntu> yay, hosk finally figures himself out
[08:24] <bazhang> * [scrote] (n=brussels@24.115.5.187.res-cmts.flt.ptd.net): spongebob
[08:27] <Flannel> elkbuntu: In his room that he never leaves, apparently
[08:27] <elkbuntu> indeed
[08:27] <elkbuntu> i'm trying to melt his brain so i can ban him
[08:46] <Flannel> bazhang: .29 isn't in any Ubuntu, Jaunty is running 28
[08:46] <Flannel> I wonder if he compiled his own and is just confused
[08:46] <bazhang> so he is not using ubuntu or option b: trolling
[08:46] <Flannel> Or just confused
[08:46] <bazhang> yep
[09:06] <elkbuntu> now lets find out how big a troll he is.
[09:15] <ikonia> did anyone catch Until_It_Sleeps earlier ?
[09:15] <bazhang> the bot banned it
[09:15] <ikonia> yeah, seems a little unusual in that he's actually a cloaked user
[09:16] <bazhang> check scrote in #k
[09:16] <ikonia> normally people are just randoms with that type of behaviour
[09:16] <ikonia> ok
[09:16] <ikonia> poor attempt at swasticker
[09:16] <bazhang> he is still unbanned
[09:17] <ikonia> no he's not ;)
[09:18] <bazhang> hehe
[09:18] <bazhang> did the same in #windows
[09:18] <ikonia> nice
[09:18] <ikonia> Im sure he's a welcome contributor
[09:19] <ikonia> seemed sensible to do him on nick rather than IP
[09:22] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-offtopic, snuxoll said: !sarcasm is <reply> Sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet, use </sarcasm> tags when in doubt
[09:33] <ikonia> bazhang: just spoke to Signius in pm in case it was just a slip/frustrated, and it wasn't - he thinks swearing was "needed" to get his point across
[09:33] <ikonia> and he thinks the channel needed to know his view
[09:33] <bazhang> ikonia, he needs a day to cool off imo
[09:34] <ikonia> he's now claiminig it's christian facism rules
[09:34] <bazhang> aha
[09:34] <ikonia> I'll drop it with him now that I see his intent is not a mistake
[09:35] <ikonia> 09:34 <Signius> But fair enough if you want to be a sad little TIN GOD then fine
[09:35] <ikonia> left it at that
[09:35] <bazhang> wow
[09:36] <ikonia> real attitude
[09:36] <ikonia> for context so I'm not picking on lines
[09:36] <ikonia> 09:33 <ikonia> relgion has nothing to do with it
[09:36] <ikonia> 09:34 <Signius> i didnt even use the actual word
[09:36] <ikonia> 09:34 <Signius> hence the use of ******
[09:36] <ikonia> 09:34 <ikonia> the intent was there, and everyone knew what the word was
[09:36] <ikonia> 09:34 <ikonia> wasn't needed
[09:36] <ikonia> 09:34 <Signius> But fair enough if you want to be a sad little TIN GOD then fine
[09:36] <bazhang> until_it_sleeps is now * EdgarJohn (i=JE@gateway/tor/x-bb3bc2fc79cfa9aa just spammed -ru
[09:37] <ikonia> !staff | until_it_sleeps sending ctcp requests and spamming channels (trying to)
[09:37] <ikonia> he's on tor now, he wasn't before
[09:39] <ikonia> he's on a zen static IP, so thats handy
[09:39] <ikonia> Signius I mean
[09:40] <bazhang> more than a day then? for the ban? what is your take ikonia 
[09:40] <bazhang> ie signius not until_it_sleeps :)
[09:40] <ikonia> I'm not interested in dicussing it with him while his atttude is like that
[09:40] <bazhang> k
[09:40] <ikonia> he knew what he was doing, makes it clear he doesn, makes it clear his stance/excuses
[09:41] <ikonia> s/doesn/does
[09:49] <bazhang> the -ru operators are almost literally never there.
[09:49] <bazhang> ie the proxies they have installed in their places
[10:10] <ikonia> bazhang: is it possible to look for other trust worthy guys ?
[10:10] <ikonia> it is a problem channel and it can't be up to you to staff if 24x7
[10:11] <elkbuntu> ikonia, that's what he's doing i suspect. i think the trustworthy aka sane guys gave up and fled ages ago though
[10:11] <ikonia> yes, that is probable
[10:17] <elkbuntu> as is usually what happens with Internet Communities Gone Bad.
[10:17] <elkbuntu> i'm pretty sure /b/ wasn't always as it is now. it was probably sane for at least an hour
[10:27] <bazhang> yep
[10:28] <bazhang> the guy who is nominally in charge now was really against me taking any action whatsoever towards the attackers in -women
[10:28] <bazhang> he wanted me to clear it with him first.
[10:28] <bazhang> but since he is never around, kind of hard to do.
[10:30] <bazhang> this was not in response to the /b/ comment btw :)
[10:31] <bazhang> off to get dinner/back later
[11:56] <siekacz> hi
[11:57] <siekacz> i can't join #ubuntu
[11:57] <siekacz> i'm banned, but why?
[11:57] <ikonia> one moment
[11:58] <ikonia> just looking now
[11:59] <ikonia> siekacz: it is because of your ident
[12:00] <ikonia> your ident is xxxpornx
[12:00]  * elkbuntu blinks
[12:01] <siekacz> lol :)
[12:01] <siekacz> i'll change it :D
[12:01] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[12:01] <ikonia> please, that would be appriciated
[12:02] <siekacz> i didn't now that cause ban
[13:19] <Myrtti> merh.
[14:37] <bazhang> @bansearch sdlwof
[15:03] <Myrtti> *urp*
[15:03] <Myrtti> thai coconut curry, white chocolate mousse and coffee with real cream makes today marginally more bearable
[15:19]  * jussi01 waves
[15:22] <bazhang> hi
[18:25] <ctrlv> so whats the deal with flash in ubuntu now?
[18:28] <nalioth> ctrlv: this is not a support channel
[18:28] <ctrlv> well for some reason im banned from #ubuntu
[18:28] <ctrlv> and ive never even gone to that channel before
[18:30] <Myrtti> has anyone managed to login to ubottu since it was restarted?
[18:30] <Myrtti> I haven't
[18:34] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[18:34] <PriceChild> Myrtti: wfm
[18:34] <Myrtti> @login
[18:34] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[18:34] <Myrtti> weird
[18:36] <Pici> @login
[18:36] <Pici> hrm
[18:37] <Pici> ubottu wasn't responding to anything in pm until I did that
[18:37] <Pici> I don't.
[18:55] <Mez> @hostmask add
[18:56] <Mez> do that ;) and it'll auto-recognise you ;)
[18:57] <Myrtti> Mez: the problem with that is that I know for a fact my hostname was on it
[18:57] <Mez> @hostmask Myrtti
[18:57] <Myrtti> @hostmask Pici
[18:58] <genii> @login
[18:58] <Mez> sorry
[18:58] <Mez> @user hostmask list
[18:58] <Mez> yeah, run that in PM... :D
[18:58] <Mez> see what the hostmasks you've got saved are
[18:58] <Myrtti> and it gives exactly the response you saw
[18:59] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[18:59]  * Mez has
[18:59] <Mez>  '*!*@ubuntu/member/mez' and 'Mez!n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez'
[18:59] <Mez> (I added the first manually)
[19:00] <Mez> ah, wait...
[19:00] <Mez> That just lets you login without a password
[19:00] <Mez> d'oh
[19:57] <Myrtti> I wonder what that was about
[20:16] <Myrtti> !pt
[20:26] <Flannel> Can someone kick ubot3 out of -ot?
[20:27] <Myrtti> why?
[20:27] <Flannel> Myrtti: Because we don't need two bots?
[20:27] <PriceChild> Flannel: mute if needed
[20:27] <PriceChild> Flannel: that way we don't have to bother admins to put them back when needed
[20:27] <Flannel> PriceChild: That won't help in queries
[20:28] <Myrtti> Flannel: I've wanted to do that but got that ^ result
[20:28] <Flannel> He isn't talking in channel, but is doing the query thing duplicate I believe
[20:28] <PriceChild> as in ! foo > bar ?
[20:28] <Flannel> Yeah
[20:28] <Flannel> I get one from each
[20:30] <Flannel> Myrtti: Nal has said if he finds his way in there we just boot him
[20:31] <Flannel> Or, I could swear he did.  I could be crazy.  Never know.
[20:33] <PriceChild> @login
[20:33] <PriceChild> ubot3 doesn't recognise me.
[20:33] <ubot3> PriceChild: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:48] <kbrooks> I have a question about the !ntfs-3g factoid.
[20:49] <Myrtti> !ntfs-3g
[20:49] <Myrtti> go ahead
[20:50] <kbrooks> There may be reliability problems when using the utility tools of ntfs 3g. Could you say that somehow in the factoid?
[20:50] <kbrooks> I mean ntfsprogs
[20:50] <kbrooks> !info ntfsprogs
[20:51] <kbrooks> Can I install both ntfsprogs and NTFS-3G?
[20:51] <kbrooks>     Yes, though be careful with ntfsprogs-2.0.0 because it has some reliability issues (write failure, sparse file corruption, utility hang, etc). 
[20:51] <kbrooks> at http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html
[20:52] <kbrooks> All right, never mind.
[20:52] <kbrooks> Thank you anyway.
[20:52] <Myrtti> np
[20:53] <kbrooks> You may wish to paste that info a !ntfsprogs factoid or something like that. Bye bye.
[21:40] <Myrtti> surreal
[21:48]  * Myrtti starts to fiddle with her CV again
[22:10]  * ikonia needs to stop refering to modules as drivers
[22:37] <LjL> ikonia: oh by the way, could you help me? i just put a driver in a folder but i couldn't find it in the explorer, so i went in the DOS thing and tried to find it there but it didn't let me go to C: so i just went in the gconf registry and loaded it there. do i have to reboot?
[23:43] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Did you ever finish that letter to UWN?