[00:01] <knome> D-MAN, alt+f2 -> xfce4-panel
[00:01] <knome> D-MAN, is that what you meant?
[00:01] <D-MAN> yeah i did that and panel at top came back but with ni menus?
[00:02] <D-MAN> no menus
[00:02] <knome> did you have menus?
[00:02] <knome> did the panel disappear after boot or suddenly?
[00:03] <D-MAN> you know at the top were it says applications oplces and sytem all is missing?
[00:03] <D-MAN> options
[00:03] <knome> yes.
[00:04] <D-MAN> all of that is missing off the window and firefox everything
[00:04] <D-MAN> nrrd to get it back
[00:04] <D-MAN> its not my pc just helping a friend
[00:05] <knome> D-MAN, you can add those panel applets back
[00:05] <D-MAN> knome i run hardy on my pc
[00:05] <D-MAN> do you know how
[00:06] <knome> D-MAN, right click the panel and select "add new item"
[00:06] <D-MAN> knome what distro you run?
[00:06] <knome> D-MAN, xubuntu intrepid
[00:06] <knome> D-MAN, but it is the same in hardy
[00:07] <D-MAN> also is there a way to add persons name in chat without typing it in every time?
[00:07] <knome> D-MAN, you can try pressing the first letter(s) and then tab
[00:07] <D-MAN> seems like xubuntu uses less system resources is that true>
[00:08] <knome> yes
[00:08] <D-MAN> kool thinking bou putting it on my pc
[00:08] <retour> Anybody using DVD-RAMs?
[00:08] <D-MAN> so does that mean it runs faster?
[00:09] <knome> D-MAN, yes..
[00:09] <knome> D-MAN, most possibly yes.
[00:10] <D-MAN> knome: kool man thanks allot
[00:10] <knome> np.
[00:13] <D-MAN> knome: one more question is xubuntu gnome or kde?
[00:13] <knome> D-MAN, xfce
[00:13] <D-MAN> knome: oh what is that?
[00:14] <knome> D-MAN, it's an alternative for gnome and kde.
[00:14] <D-MAN> knome: or what exactly does it mean?
[00:14] <D-MAN> knome: just different code source or what?
[00:14] <knome> D-MAN, it's just a difference desktop environment.
[00:14] <knome> D-MAN, different source yes and a bit different way to work
[00:15] <knome> D-MAN, and maybe a bit different feature-wise
[00:15] <D-MAN> knome: sorry im new to linux and trying to figure it all out but im enjoying the challenge
[00:16] <knome> D-MAN, np. have fun :)
[00:17] <D-MAN> knome: yeah im never going back to windows !!!!!
[00:17] <knome> :)
[00:18] <D-MAN> knome: peace out
[00:24] <robert__> how do i connect my palm treo to my laptop?
[01:53] <wes> is there a lock screen in xubuntu
[01:53] <wes> ?
[02:35] <R1cochet> i think so yes
[02:35] <R1cochet> think its the same as in gnome
[02:47] <R1cochet> !screenlock
[04:01] <KlrSpz> hey guys, need some help.. i have upgraded to Intrepid (8.10) and now my nVidia drivers don't work.. According to nVidia's README, my card (Go 7300) should be supported, but GDM always says it can't load the nvidia driver... the restricted drivers manager doesn't ever enable the driver either.. any ideas?  http://pastebin.ca/1278498
[04:31] <jmichaelx> !xkb
[04:31] <jmichaelx> !keyboard layout
[04:31] <jmichaelx> of course you don't
[04:46] <mjec> hi guys, I'm having an issue where the Task List panel item is just showing one task labeled "??" at all times, regardless of properties or what's running
[04:46] <mjec> suggestions?
[06:09] <dnyy> After installing the xubuntu-desktop package, and playing with it for a while, my USB stick stopped being recognized in both it and gnome.  I was going to do a fresh install of xubuntu, but I need it working first. Any idea why it wouldn't be showing up? :(
[06:39] <Guest32999> Hello.
[08:24] <blankthemuffin_> Hey, I'm wondering how well you think xubuntu would go on a P2, with limited ( about 256MB ) ram.
[15:49] <raderack> good morning
[15:50] <charlie-tca> good morning, raderack
[15:52] <raderack> anyone knowns where i can find a description of xubuntu(or ubuntu) services? i need to remove some of then,so my notebook(p3 800,178mb),can gain more memory to work with..(yes,im new to it)
[15:57] <sevenseeker> considering partnership with arm (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/arm-linux) I would think xfce would be even better for these solutions, what do you guys think?
[15:58] <charlie-tca> raderack: you could search at https://help.ubuntu.com/ for each one. That will get some explanations for you.
[16:02] <raderack> charlie-tca, an description of the boot-scripts is the same?
[16:02] <charlie-tca> What boot scripts?
[16:03] <charlie-tca> are you looking in /etc/init.d or /etc/rc?.d
[16:03] <raderack> yes
[16:04] <charlie-tca> Scripts in /etc/rc?.d are for different run-levels which Xubuntu does not use except 1 and 2, to the best of my knowledge.
[16:05] <charlie-tca> Most scripts in /etc/init.d can be researched in https://help.ubuntu.com/ . Turning off the item in Applications -> System -> Services will deactivate the script
[16:06] <raderack> thanks charlie-tca
[16:06] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[16:06] <raderack> in a search in ubuntu forums,people said that enlightenment is lighter to run,thats truth?
[16:16] <knome> raderack, yeah that's the case but it isn't so easy to configure and has less or different features
[16:16] <whileimhere> Hi how is xfce doing on 8.10 these days?
[16:17] <knome> whileimhere, great afaik
[16:17] <raderack> so  for a beginner like me,is easier to keep using xfce?
[16:17] <knome> raderack, compared to what?
[16:17] <raderack> compared to using enlightenment
[16:17] <knome> raderack, enlightenment?
[16:17] <whileimhere> Has there been any major improvments? I used to use it but was switched to GNOME and now was thinking about switiching back on my new laptop.
[16:18] <knome> raderack, well i suppose so
[16:18] <knome> whileimhere, not really anything BIG, but imho the xubuntu release was the most impressive of the 8.10 series
[16:18] <whileimhere> I use it mostly for MAME and for Photos anymore.
[16:19] <whileimhere> I do a lot of graphics work for people.
[16:19] <knome> raderack, you can also install enlightenment and on gdm just select which one you want to use
[16:19] <knome> whileimhere, http://xubuntu.org/contribute ;)
[16:19] <slinkeey> Hey All!
[16:19] <knome> hello slinkeey
[16:20] <slinkeey> Quick Qustion.. Not really a problem but....
[16:20] <slinkeey> I replaced the video card in my PC.. Di I need to reinstall Xubuntu 8.04 so that it regognises everything correctly?
[16:20] <knome> slinkeey, you shouldn't have to.
[16:20] <raderack> thanks,i tried to install e16 using a tuto that i found on ubuntu forum,but it didnt work
[16:20] <slinkeey> ok
[16:20] <raderack> so i will try e16
[16:21] <slinkeey> How did it find the different video cards drivers?
[16:21] <knome> raderack, you can get enlightenment from the repos
[16:21] <knome> slinkeey, magic
[16:21] <slinkeey> be quiet, hehehe
[16:22] <knome> well the system will look for any devices and they are recognised by their output
[16:22] <slinkeey> ahh ok
[16:22] <slinkeey> and then it see the ATI video card and then is there a database of drivers?  OR does it not use drivers?
[16:23] <knome> it's the same way windows or any other OS will recognise them
[16:23] <slinkeey> i know but windows will prompt me for what drivers to use
[16:23] <raderack> only e16..and people said that version e16 need more work to be suitable for a new user..but e17(development version),already have something in default install
[16:23] <knome> i don't know exactly, but i suppose it then just knows which drivers to use
[16:23] <slinkeey> ok
[16:23] <raderack> but doing a cvs install,isnt that easy..:(
[16:24] <knome> raderack, suppose you should still try e16 first
[16:24] <knome> raderack, and see if it suits you at all
[16:24] <slinkeey> thanks
[16:24] <knome> raderack, enlightenment really is something which is powerful only if you can use it, imho
[16:25] <knome> *know how to...
[16:25] <raderack> knome im still looking for a good tuto about configuring e16..when i get one,i will try e16(using synaptic package manager)
[16:25] <knome> !enlightenment
[16:25] <knome> duh
[16:25] <raderack> ah there is no rush,i have time to read.
[16:26] <knome> raderack, http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=support&l=en
[16:27] <raderack> hmm..and the dumb heare was searching in ubuntu forums,lol
[16:27] <raderack> thanks knome
[16:27] <knome> np
[16:45] <eichi> hello, where are the firewall settings?
[16:45] <eichi> i installed cups server and want to access it from lan
[17:03] <Aquina> hello
[17:26] <oim> hi
[17:26] <oim> ı am using kubuntu 8.10. ı want to use xfce. how can ı do that?
[17:29] <Myrtti> install xubuntu-desktop
[17:31] <oim> Myrtti: there arent any package like that
[17:32] <Myrtti> are you sure?
[17:32] <oim> ı look at it with adept
[17:33] <Myrtti> you do have universe enabled?
[17:34] <oim> i do in with terminal. it is realy there :)
[17:34] <Myrtti> so there, install that
[17:34] <oim> i do it. thanks
[23:13] <dnyy> How can i tell what version of xfce is installed?
[23:39] <teear> Is it possible to set 4:3 as the default aspect ratio in VLC?
[23:40] <Twili> They have a Ultra-mobile PC USB image for Ubuntu 8.10, is there one for Xubuntu?