[00:00] ??? [00:01] I don't think windows know's how to deal with the linux file system. are you using a partition editor in windows? [00:03] no [00:03] i made the partion while instaling vista [00:04] i press alt+f2 then the run dialog doesnt run. i checked in system settings and it still is the keyboard shortcut. any idea? [00:05] root, hi [00:05] root, very creative nick lol === root is now known as Guest34564 [00:18] I think the problem has to do with how windows mounts filesystems. I'd recommend using a partition editor to remove the partition. I have no experience with vista, dual boot and very little with windows in general but from what I do know that's what I'd think. you want to wipe the partition clean and possible format it for use by vista yes? === stephen is now known as Guest62268 [00:21] #tanit === prateek_ is now known as prateek === newmen is now known as newmen_ === newmen_ is now known as newmen [00:29] me he instalado el ultimo kubuntu , el 8.10, quiero instalar beryl, alguien me podria ayudar??? [00:31] !es | majoney [00:31] majoney: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:32] !br | majoney [00:32] majoney: Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [00:32] not sure which [00:35] is anyone familar with "the dullest blog in the world"? [00:40] guess not [00:41] i know pretty much nothing about web design and html (and css and xhtml...). is there a simple open source program i can install that will generate all the html (or xhtml or css) for me? preferably heavy on the gui. i do'nt need anything fancy, just pictures, links and text, but i want it to look good === vorian is now known as heHATEme [00:49] chipbuddy: kompozer ? [00:50] i'll give it a shot. thanks erov [00:56] I just installed the kubuntu-desktop package and after I logged in my monitor blinks every 15 or so seconds. Could this be because my computer can't handle KDE or what? :/ [00:58] kde shouldent affect the monitor/X settings.. [00:58] it maybe the compositing effects.. try logging in with a different window manager and see if it still happens [00:58] it wasn't blinking in xfce or gnome :/ [00:59] even when i have compiz enabled in gnome it doesn't blink, it goes horribly slow but no monitor blinkin' [01:05] I disabled all desktop effects, and it's still happening ;o [01:06] dnyy: i belive desde is a bug report about that, letme check [01:07] s/desde/there/ [01:07] wut? ;x [01:09] that there's a bug report similar to your problem [01:09] dnyy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/278471 [01:09] check the comments, maybe there's one that can help [01:09] ah, i was confused as to waht desde meant. but i looked it up [01:10] it was a typo [01:10] i meant there [01:10] hah, well it translates to 'since' in spanish. === Guest7605 is now known as Adola [01:16] Alright, stopping "Detecting RANDR" worked. Thanks for the link, a google search never brought it up. [01:18] has anyone ever had text decide it is being entered right to left, instead of left to right in Kate? [01:18] where do you find the google gadgets for kde? [01:18] if so, how do I 'undo' this feature? [01:21] Thats some sort of input feature for some languages.. and ive no idea where the settings are at [01:23] miraculously it undid itself [01:23] thanksfully [01:24] #kubuntu-es === x__ is now known as smkajt [01:41] hi, i'm having doubts about installing guitar tuner need help [01:42] * dr_willis thinks the channel would need more info smkajt [01:42] ok, i'll try a couple times more [01:47] At random intervals my laptop's caps lock light with start flashing, and when it does this my computer is completely unresponsive, it just shows a black screen, what's happening, and what should I do? [01:53] beta-guy, maybe X is crashing ...you may need to edit xorg.conf [01:55] salut tous le monde [01:55] i added the kde 4.2 nightly repository and installed kde-nightly pacakge. my screen locks every once in a while and my password doesnt seem to work there. I have to ctrl alt backspace to get out [01:55] any ideas as to how to set my lock screen password in kde 4.2 [01:57] sounds like a bug.... [01:57] BluesKaj: over in #ubuntu they think it could be a kernel panic [01:57] kaps lock flashing = VERY bad crash sign [01:58] tv time ..bbl [01:59] dr_willis: I'll try to keep my laptop running cool, and see if that resolves the issue, do you know of a way to narrow down the cause of the crash? [01:59] beta-guy, not really.. If it only does it evey so often. it would sound like a heat issue [02:00] ok === Cueball_ is now known as Cueball === JediatNight is now known as Guest13619 [02:16] why is the kde 4.2 lock screen password different from the user password, how do i change it [02:16] i'm not able to install a guitar tuner, can some one help ? === Cueball is now known as Cueball_ === Cueball_ is now known as Cueball === prateek_ is now known as prateek === heHATEme is now known as vorian === prateek_ is now known as prateek [03:09] hola [03:13] anyone else tried ubuntu 9.04 beta yet [03:14] #ubuntu+1 for further discussion please linuxman410 [03:14] thanks === laura_ is now known as laulyp [03:20] hello [03:20] on Intrepid Ibex, is the nvidia 71 driver is working now ? [03:25] is there somebody alive here ? [03:28] araghorn: the 71 driver isn't working [03:29] JontheEchidna-thanx [03:30] Does someone know when it's gonna be fixed ? [03:30] only the nvidia developers [03:34] ciao [03:34] just what i thought... [03:34] qualcuno parla italiano come me? [03:34] !it [03:34] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [03:34] grazie [03:34] thanks [03:42] need help configureing mod-mono [03:42] require graphical tool [03:43] anyone knows about how to use rapache [03:47] is there a good codec packs for video files? .avi and so on? [03:47] How would i know when the Nvidia 71 driver will be fixed on Intrepid Ibex ? [03:49] kubuntu-restricted-extras smkajt [03:49] araghorn, when nvidia fixes it? [03:50] where cand i find kubuntu-restricted-extras bazhang? [03:51] smkajt, which version of kubuntu [03:52] bazhang: can't tell wich version [03:53] !version | smkajt [03:53] smkajt: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [03:53] ubuntu 7.04 [03:54] smkajt, that version is end of life; were you planning on upgrading to a newer version? [03:55] guess not [03:55] i was planning to install video files codec [03:55] to watch movies [03:56] end of life means that version is not supported any more [03:56] !feisty [03:56] Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 19th, 2008. See !eol for more details. [03:56] what should i do dude ? [03:56] smkajt, how old an install [03:58] bazhang: installed this month [03:58] smkajt, best to try the livecd of LTS hardy imo [03:59] thats supported til 2011 [03:59] lts=long term support === prateek_ is now known as prateek [04:02] bazhang -> Is the only way to know when it's gonna be fixed is to read some forum, or I can subscribe to something that will tell me when ? [04:02] araghorn, iirc nvidia has a blog [04:02] baxhang -> thanx === patrick is now known as Guest90158 === Guest90158 is now known as pdv === pdv is now known as cgmf [04:09] baxhang -> is that the blog: http://blogs.nvidia.com/ [04:13] araghorn, sounds right [04:16] bazhang -> Last question (since I'm a newbie): what was the 71.71.86.9 for if it was not for Intrepix Ibex ? [04:17] araghorn, not sure there sorry [04:17] bazhang -> ok, thank you === patrick is now known as Guest91893 [04:26] I have an ogg file that I want to play when I get a PM and when someone says my nick. It was working, but now it does not. I played the ogg file outside of Konversation and it works. The file is not corrupt. What do I have to do for Konversation to play the audio file? [04:35] hey all [04:35] Has anyone successfully gotten the pen drivers working on a Compaq TC1000 tablet? [04:44] Hello everyone. [04:47] How's everyone doing? [05:03] <_2> var/log/messages... kernel: Loaded 23281 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.15-53-686. ? [05:04] <_2> var/log/mseeages... kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. [05:05] <_2> is that normal ? [05:05] <_2> i'm not noticing anything malfunctioning... but the message seems strange === sayak is now known as glade88 [05:09] hello.. my installation is really screwed up. I had a Kubuntu Intrepid Beta disk, I install Kubuntu and added the KDE 4.2 beta 1 PPA repos. After downloading the updates, I now have broken dependencies and I get this: http://pastebin.com/m3d0fa1c9 [05:15] <_2> more info on my question, http://pastebin.com/fcdc87e9 /var/log/messages [05:15] hello. Has anyone a hint for me for getting sound running in java in kubuntu? I'm just trying to get the official javaounddemo from sun running. java -version: "1.6.0_10" [05:15] *javasounddemo [05:20] <_2> well never mind i just did rm /boot/* and that should at the very least stop that inconsistancy in my message log. [05:20] <_2> i'll reboot and test it. [05:25] <_2> well it did and it didn't i still get the "Dec 7 23:23:18 192 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled" [05:35] :) === oscc2007 is now known as tboxmy [05:37] oh - I have java-sound - only the jukebox in the sounddemo fails. [05:59] klobster! [06:48] configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. [06:49] this error returned twice, when i tryed to install softw, when typing ./configure [06:49] is there someone still awake [06:49] <_2> prolly === sigma is now known as Guest44997 [07:00] whats up with gimp on kubuntu? the layers dialog dont work - whats the point of using it then? [07:36] how do i install firefox on kubuntu 8.10 [07:37] <_2> sudo apt-get install firefox [07:37] _2: isn't there a bug ? says it might need to install some gnome libs [07:38] <_2> pronoy gnome libs wont hurt [07:38] <_2> much. [07:38] hi [07:39] anybody knows how i install beryl on ubuntu linux? [07:39] <_2> !beryl [07:39] Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion. New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz [07:41] thx [07:41] i ll try to figure compiz fusion out [07:42] <_2> alex__ btw what version of ubuntu and kde are you talking ? [07:42] ubuntu 8.10 [07:42] i ve downloaded a version of kde but know i m running gnome [07:43] <_2> hummm and you don't like the kde4 effects ? [07:43] it makes the laptop a little slower than gnome [07:43] the main reason i would like to try beryl [07:43] <_2> well the 'gnome' channel is #ubuntu [07:43] is curiosity as well:p [07:44] <_2> maybe someone in there can support it. [07:44] thx [07:44] <_2> welcome [07:46] _2: isn't there a bug ? says it might need to install some gnome libs [07:47] _2: and i want some help regarding xine too.........how do i play rmvb on kubuntu ? [07:47] <_2> pronoy_ not that i know of, but i don't know all things. [07:47] okk [07:48] which is better dragon player or kaffine ? [07:49] <_2> which is better kia or toyota [07:49] <_2> it's personal preferance [07:49] _2: i don't know about kia..but toyota is good :D [07:49] _2: i need a player which plays everything so which one is the best ? [07:50] <_2> vlc [07:54] _2: ok one more thing...i migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu.........the add/remove programs.....how do i see the 3rd party applications.........just like in gnome [07:55] <_2> pronoy_ ummm use synaptic if you have it installed still. or adept if you don't. [07:56] ya but does synaptic cater to kde as well ?\ [08:04] hello? [08:10] _2: how do i uninstall konqueror ? [08:11] guys [08:11] can i convert a avi to a mpeg ?deved only coverts to a iso [08:11] deved* [08:15] <_2> pronoy_ are you sure you want to? you can make firefox the default browser you know [08:16] _2: If i remove konqueror...what harm will it cause ? [08:16] anyone ever used nerolinux ? [08:16] <_2> pronoy_ sudo apt-get remove konqueror # and read the list of packages it will take with it. [08:18] just 3 packages konqueror konqueror-plugin-searchbar kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts [08:18] <_2> ok then remove it if you like [08:18] _2: i hope kde will work after i uninstall konqueror ? or is it also a file browser ? [08:18] <_2> seems the deps will reslove to delphin [08:19] <_2> pronoy_ yes it is a file manager [08:19] <_2> and an ssh client and a man page browser.... [08:19] <_2> konqueror is da'bomb [08:20] <_2> it's a trade of all jacks and a jack of all trades [08:20] _2: so i guess i shouldn't remove it after all [08:21] <_2> it's up to you. [08:21] <_2> pronoy_ it's your software, use it like you like. we're just here to halp. [08:21] _2: yes but i think i'll blow my system to bits........that'll be a lot of help :D [08:22] ok anohter question .. i don't want dolphin anymore in kubuntu .. if i remove it can i just install nautilus ? [08:22] <_2> pronoy_ if it can be broken, i've probably already broke it. ;/ [08:23] <_2> macjason0607 why not use knoqueror ? [08:23] _2, i just want a file manager that is stable [08:23] <_2> macjason0607 konq not stable ? [08:24] <_2> [08:24] never used it [08:24] so guess what [08:24] Konqueror just crashed .. do you guys want to look at logs ? [08:24] macjason0607: i used nautilus......its unstable more unstable than konqueror and dolphin [08:25] hmm. [08:25] * _2 suspects vidio driver issues, but quietly sneeks out [08:26] pronoy_, when i was running ubuntu i had nautiuls and it was fine if i recall [08:26] whats the paste bin here ? [08:26] <_2> !pastebin [08:26] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [08:27] whenever i played a media file in ubuntu.......nautilus crashed.......thats one of the reasons for shifting to kde 4.1 [08:27] check it http://paste.ubuntu.com/82357/ [08:28] <_2> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 [08:30] can i have 2 file managers running at the same time ? [08:30] <_2> yes [08:32] <_2> on dapper i have tested with as many as five file manager/browsers at one time and multi-sessions of each of them. [08:32] <_2> but dapper is stable. [08:32] <_2> when you use bleeding edge, some times.... it bleeds [08:33] <_2> !worksforme [08:33] Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [08:33] yea [08:34] im using interpid kubuntu [08:34] it keeps crashing on me [08:34] so .. right now im dual booting xp and kubuntu on this desktop computer .. im giving it a shot right now because im getting a laptop at the end of this month [08:34] the laptop has beautiful specs [08:35] 2.4ghz Intel core 2 duo 4 gb ram DVD+RW etc ... [08:35] i forgot the brand but i saw it at sams club [08:35] :D [08:36] and it is strech screen [08:36] _2: like ntfs configuration tool on gnome what tool is available on kde ? [08:36] <_2> !ntfs [08:36] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [08:37] <_2> pronoy_ probably better off to ask that as a general question rather than addressing me with it. i really don't know. [08:37] !NTFS-3g [08:37] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [08:38] _2: gotcha........thanks for the support till now [08:38] <_2> even though they are quiet there are a few others lurking even at this hour. [08:38] !FUSE [08:38] FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE. Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems [08:39] <_2> the ops tend to just check this channel every so often and if there are "unanswered" questions lying around they will pick them up "usually." [08:48] is the upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 worth it? [08:56] ?< [09:00] what the hell [09:01] do you want help? [09:01] i dont know whats going on [09:02] <_2> !welcome [09:02] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [09:02] hello? [09:03] so is this like a support thing? or something diffrent [09:03] nick_: could you ask a plain question? We would like to help but you should be more explicit on your problem :) [09:06] nick_: if you have a question, just ask it... if someone awake can answer or try to answer s/he will... [09:06] sorry, i am new. my other computer is running ubuntu 8.10, and the terminal screen went blank. [09:07] did you type Ctrl + l? [09:07] as well as there are no borders or buttons to exit a window [09:07] do you have compiz? [09:07] nick_: do you talk about Gnome or KDE? [09:07] gnome and yes compiz [09:07] ive tried removeing [09:08] but useless [09:08] nick_: this i the kubuntu channel just by the way... I don't know whether other people will get annoyed but I'll try to help... [09:08] when compiz crashes, that's what happens [09:08] try running "metacity --replace" [09:08] well some apps like this one is also blank. so i am unable to read back [09:09] open a new console and type "metacity --replace" [09:09] that will make metacity draw your windows instead of compiz [09:10] sorry.. logging in again [09:10] that could also work... [09:11] well thats been done.. also reinstalling the os [09:11] what's been done? [09:11] are you reinstalling right now? [09:12] no no, just had a bad error with xubuntu.. and had to switch [09:13] could you explain your problem more comprehensively please [09:14] when i open the console, it is a blank white screen. so are areas where notifications should be [09:14] in what window manager? and does that problem only happen to console? [09:15] also the titlebar for any window has no buttons to close the window. [09:15] balloon notifications thet pop up are also blank [09:16] does anyone know of some sort of all powerful hotkey editor for kde4 ? I've got nice media keys on my dell inspiron 1525 laptop and they aren't very pro working at the moment... [09:16] to the point that I'm considering kde3.5 again... argh [09:17] nick_: you didn't answer my last two questions... Also, "is compiz running?" is my third question now [09:18] yes compiz was running [09:18] but i have removed it [09:19] and what window manager are you in? Does it happen in all window managers? does it happen only to console and balloon tips? [09:20] the window manager is in the one that is provided with the install i am not sure, i am new [09:20] it seems it happens with pop up boxs [09:21] boxes* [09:21] okay, you said you were using xubuntu... But you also said you are using ubuntu... Which version are you using? [09:21] I don't have the msn protocol in kopete in kde 4.2b1. Is this a bug? [09:22] Hi. My global keys (like Alt-F2, Ctrl-F12) do not work since updating to KDE 4.2 beta 1. Is that a known issue? [09:22] i was running ubuntu, then switch to xubuntu, then back to ubuntu. [09:22] Salze_: my hotkeys didn't work since I moved to kde4 [09:22] nick_: okay, then you're using gnome... [09:22] Up to 4.1.3 they worked. [09:22] nick_: you should probably move to the #ubuntu channel [09:23] Salze_ what keyboard do you have? [09:23] I'm intrigued because I really want my media keys working... [09:24] I've got a notebook, Thinkpad X40. [09:25] and did you keys work out of the box? [09:25] I've got a dell inspiron 1525 === petsounds is now known as BobDylan === BobDylan is now known as ergy [09:31] File Sharing KDE Control Module reports "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed." Thought I had installed them. Anyone know the specific packages required? This is on Intrepid. [09:31] I'm trying to do an SMB share of my local Documents directory btw... === ubuntu_ is now known as sailor_moon [09:33] hello everybody === nightdragon_ is now known as NightDragon [09:34] ok, i have just installed the new ubuntu, but again there's no wireless net working... help! [09:35] Hi, could anyone of you tell me what is update-apt-xapi? [09:35] Could it be a Update-Notify (in left bottom corner)? [09:38] help anyone!!!??? [09:38] portal: patience! [09:38] ok :) [09:38] portal: you talk about Gnome or KDE? [09:39] Kubuntu? [09:39] umm i don't know [09:39] ubuntu [09:39] so you should ask in #ubuntu [09:39] ok thanks [09:41] hi i'm noob can sb help me on priv? maybe sb from poland or english speaking? [09:43] Baier: ask your question [09:43] how can i backup my desktop settings , wallpapers ,themes so that i can restore them after a fresh install? [09:43] unix: save your .kde/ [09:43] save it in removable media? === vito is now known as Guest55404 [09:44] unix: well, anywhere you want, but not in a partition you are going to nuke :) [09:44] #ubuntu-it [09:44] where is the .kde/ [09:44] E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [09:44] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [09:44] i cant find it.. [09:44] in your home [09:45] is it hidden> [09:45] ? [09:45] i got sth like that and when i write it in terminal it says that i have to be administrator [09:45] unix: in your file manager, activate Hidden files in the View menu [09:45] Baier: you must run sudo apt-get [09:45] to be admin === Guest55404 is now known as Vtio [09:46] how to run it? === Vtio is now known as Vito [09:46] Baier: run sudo dpkg --comfigure -a in Konsole === Vito is now known as Guest70418 [09:47] i cant find it mamarok [09:47] unix: type alt+ F2, then type konsol in the window that appears in the middle of your screen [09:47] *konsole even [09:48] i did [09:48] should i open konsole [09:48] ? === Guest70418 is now known as Vitop [09:49] i can find only two things in /home [09:49] unix: well, yes :) [09:49] then type the exact line I gave you [09:49] one is unix(my user name) and .directory [09:49] unix: it will ask your user password, type that in [09:50] i did [09:50] unix: that /home, i was talking to somebody else [09:50] unix: and? [09:50] .directory [09:51] unix: sorry, I was mixin up people :) [09:51] lol [09:51] ok [09:51] unix: nope, no need to open a konsole [09:51] i repeat [09:51] unix: you are in your file manager? [09:51] yes [09:51] unix: open the view menu and activate the hidden files [09:51] i did [09:52] im in /home now [09:52] so you will now see a lot of folders beginning with a dot [09:52] there is ony one hidden file [09:52] .directory [09:52] which is? [09:52] .directory [09:52] hm, strange, you sure you are in your home? [09:52] yes /home [09:52] /home/unix? [09:53] no [09:53] jus /home [09:53] you must be in *your* home directory! [09:53] okok [09:53] activate the hidden files [09:53] yes now i see .kder [09:53] yes now i see .kde [09:54] ok, that's the folder you must save in order to have all your configurations saved [09:55] Baier: did I solve your problem? Sorry I mixed yu up with someone else :/ [09:57] Baier: you need to run sudo dpkg --configure -a [09:57] without sudo it can't wokr [09:57] *work [09:57] ok i try [09:58] sth is hapening :) [09:58] Baier: good :) [09:59] Baier: all admin tasks, like installing or updating files, have to be done with sudo, else it doesn't work [09:59] it my first day with linux :) [09:59] unix: no query please [10:00] Baier: nice :) [10:00] how to back up all the softwares running to restore after fresh install [10:00] ? [10:00] or do i need to install them again? [10:00] Baier: you should read the docs that come with the installation [10:00] unix: no, if you use a backup tool, it can also restore [10:00] where was that ubuntu chat again ^^''?? [10:01] unix: else, if you just copy the folder, you can simply copy it back to *your* new home [10:01] portal: #ubuntu [10:01] thanks [10:01] u mean entire home directory? [10:01] unix: no, I think you only need to backup the .kde folder [10:01] unix: the basic apps install dirung the installation [10:02] unix: why do you want do reinstall btw? [10:02] i read them, and there is nothing about my problem, because i have problem with synaptic, it tels me that i have to configure it manualy write "dpkg --configure -a" and no idea what next? [10:02] i want to remove vista... [10:02] and want linux running in MBR [10:02] Baier: what do you want to do, update your installation? [10:03] unix: do you have a dual boot installation now? [10:03] yea [10:03] unix: you can simply remove the Vista partition, no need to reinstall Linux [10:03] when i run synaptic there goes an mistake, and writes"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [10:03] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [10:04] but i also need to resize the parttion [10:04] unix: make sure to mackup your personal things from Vista first though! [10:04] unix: there is a partition tool called qparted you can use for that [10:04] unix: read the man page first and be sure you do it right before starting [10:04] ok [10:04] unix: you must know exactly which partition you are going to delete [10:04] man qparted?? [10:05] from sda1 to sd4 [10:05] kubuntu is running on sda5 [10:05] unix: you might have to install the tool first [10:05] Baier: that's what you just did, no? [10:06] yea, and i'm in that and what next? [10:06] Baier: that should do it if you didn't get errors at the end of the dpkg run [10:07] can i run the live cd and use qparted? [10:07] unix: I mistyped, its qtparted [10:07] ok [10:07] unix: you can run it from konsole [10:07] ok [10:07] can i run the live cd and use qtparted? [10:07] ok [10:07] ldconfig deferred processing now taking place thats the last line no errors:) [10:08] Baier: so it's done, your system should be up to date [10:09] Baier: you might run synaptic again now, just to be sure [10:09] doest'work:( [10:10] one not working "pakiet" [10:11] Baier: sometimes there are packages wich lak some dependencies, it will be updated once these are available [10:11] *lack [10:11] yea but untill then i can't instal nothing? [10:12] error:broukenCount>0 [10:12] Baier: of course you can, just remove the broken one first [10:13] When I set the number of virtual desktops in 'Configure Desktop' and save it/close system settings, it has no effect on the number of desktops. What's wrong? [10:13] It reverts back [10:14] sun java is not working, delete or delete completly? [10:15] just remove [10:15] Baier: did you try to reinstall this package first? [10:15] no:) just removed it :P === unimatrix is now known as uni4dfx [10:17] Baier: just update your package list and see if theer are updates [10:17] *there === asfaaa is now known as asfa [10:18] kk thx you're great === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [10:19] i try to run system-cleaner, but get system-cleaner: command not found has it changed [10:20] Baier: thx :) [10:20] hi all [10:20] where can i see which graficdriver is loaded? u have a nvidia card.. [10:20] i have ^ :) [10:20] asfa: what package is that? [10:21] system-cleaner - not sure if it changed to cruft [10:21] removes cruft after upgrade [10:22] or removed as it no longer works apparemtly? [10:22] asfa: sorry, no idea what you are talking about :) [10:22] I updated the java package doesn't work still [10:23] Baier: what do you mean by "doesn't work"? [10:23] still the same error [10:23] and that it s corupted [10:23] ok, then remove the package [10:24] Baier: still quite strange, it works for me here, what version of Kubuntu do you run? === ilia is now known as iliya === iliya is now known as lerin [10:33] Hey guys [10:37] Hi guys - just deleted my /usr/local folder by mistake. Am using Kubuntu 8.04. Any way I can repair - without having to reinstall the whole system? [10:37] lawi: unlikely, but why the hell do you delete things as sudo? [10:38] lawi nope [10:38] lawi dumb idea really really dumb uidea [10:39] I knw its dumb. Was deleting some files in the folder and hit enter by mistake. I should have aliased rm -i [10:40] lawi better reinstall it [10:40] Ok, I guess then I have to reinstall. Am actually still using the system so I have managed to make copies of config files [10:40] lawi: and next time just use apt-get remove and purge to remove things [10:41] no need to fiddle in /usr/* deleting things [10:41] What can I say? I have learnt my lesson :) [10:43] #ubuntu [10:57] hi [10:57] is this bad? http://pastebin.com/m5845dc2 [10:57] why is the summary wrong and something ahs to be recovered? [10:59] The_ManU_212: I fear you might have harddisk problems, you run a desktop or a laptop? [10:59] Mamarok: desktop [11:00] Mamarok: smartmontools is installed and warning in bios enabled [11:00] try running fsck again from console [11:01] Mamarok: how? [11:02] hm, not a good idea on a mounted system, do you have a live CD? [11:04] how to chech in ubuntu what graphis card I have? [11:04] Mamarok: yes [11:04] Baier: lspci [11:04] Mamarok girl ur much tooo fast for me [11:05] Mamarok: you should run fsck with a live CD [11:05] Baier: dmesg | grep ati or dmesg | grep nvidia to see which one you have [11:05] Mamarok: ok, but how? [11:06] start up your system with a live CD, there you can use the system tools from the command line [11:08] The_ManU_212: you have smartmontools installed, but does the smartd run? [11:09] Mamarok: no, cause i heard it can shorten the live of harddiskdrives, i have it in bios enabled and ran a samrtctl -H /dev/sdx [11:09] and what did it say? === alexey is now known as chinaski === chinaski is now known as chinaski2 [11:13] Mamarok: passed [11:13] Hello! In my Kubuntu 8.04 in printer manager option "Network printer SMB (Windows)" is inactive. SMB-client and server are installed. Does anybody know how to resolve problem? [11:13] Mamarok: why do you think i have hard disk problems? [11:14] !smb [11:14] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 [11:14] !network printing [11:14] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:14] because of the pastebin you sent, if fsck aborts itself on startup I'd check disk health [11:14] p00r bot [11:15] The_ManU_212: seems ok then if passed and yu get "SMART Health Status: OK [11:16] Mamarok: only that: [11:16] === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === [11:16] SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED [11:16] File Sharing KDE Control Module reports "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed." Thought I had installed them. Anyone know the specific packages required? This is on Intrepid. [11:16] I'm trying to do an SMB share of my local Documents directory btw... [11:16] never got that OK you menation [11:17] The_ManU_212: depends on the disk type I guess, mine sends me an OK [11:17] Mamarok: Maxtor and Samsung [11:18] IBM here [11:32] Hi. My global keys (like Alt-F2, Ctrl-F12) do not work since updating to KDE 4.2 beta 1. Is that a known issue? [11:34] Salze_: works for me, so something must have gone wrong [11:34] Salze_: did you start with a new .kde/ ? [11:41] Mamarok: No, I didn't. Thank you for your replay. In the system settings...can you open the sub-page for the global shortcuts and view/change the keybindings for the various modules? [11:42] Salze_: why should I change my settings? It runs fine for me :) [11:43] Salze_: you should start with a new .kde/, just move your old one to .kde_old/ once you're logged out [11:44] yo yo yo [11:45] hi ActionParsnip :) [11:54] hola algun español??? [11:54] Mamarok: I just wanted to know whether you are able to do so. Because on my system this setting doesn't even load. A new .kde doesn't help. [11:54] !es | gonzo_ [11:54] gonzo_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [11:54] spanish??? [11:56] gonzo_: this is english, #kubuntu-es is for spanish [11:57] gonzo_: or you communicte in english === lawi is now known as miksi [11:59] Salze_: it does for me [12:00] Salze_: you sure your upgrade ran correctly [12:00] ? === miksi is now known as miksi123 [12:00] Mamarok: No, I'm not. [12:01] What package do the global shortcuts belong to? [12:01] Salze_: check your sources list first [12:01] and add universe to the experimental repo [12:02] I bet you are missing some apps [12:04] anyone installed mysql5 from source? I keep getting the error "FATAL ERROR: Could not find /fill_help_tables.sql" [12:05] Done - but no new packages. [12:05] Hi. [12:06] lawi: try not to ask in both rooms [12:06] lawi: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,200909,200937#msg-200937 [12:07] I'm considering giving a hand to test KDE 4.2 Beta1, but I'd like to know what blocker/annoying bugs I would encounter (if any). Also, what plasmoids are broken? I've already checked http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 and http://kde.org/info/4.1.80.php and it seems like the *only* problem is that the MSN is not supported in Kopete. Is this right? [12:07] Thanks in advance [12:12] Salze_: your permissions set correctly? [12:13] Which permissions? [12:19] hello - is there an NFS GUI in the Systems Settings? I see one for Samba... am i missing something? [12:19] i'm using kubuntu 8.10 [12:21] Running "kcmshell keys" gives: "kcmshell(10846) GlobalShortcutsModule::load: allComponents() failed!" [12:24] afk [12:24] Salze_: does it work with sudo? [12:26] Heilà.... goodmorning [12:27] lo amerigo [12:28] I have Hardy 8.04 and I got a problem ... when shoutdown PC, after reboot eth0 whas misconfigurated... each time i had to adjoust setting (you know same solution?) [12:28] ActionParsnip: I action [12:29] amerigo: does the pc move? [12:29] no [12:29] still here [12:29] amerigo: you could configure it in /etc/network/interfaces [12:29] but IP return to be the one NIC assigned [12:30] i have do some time ago... [12:30] my doubt is tha i have downloaded some adjourning [12:30] hy wer da [12:30] ok i check [12:31] ActionParsnip: No, same error with sudo. [12:31] ActionParsnip: infact it have non ip assigned [12:32] spricht wer deutsch von euch [12:32] ActionParsnip: have you some example of IP configuration ? [12:32] It seems that I have no khotkeys executable. Which packages provides that app? [12:32] amerigo: if you edit /etc/network/interfaces then network config apps will not work but the ip will be set at boot [12:33] amerigo: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/f62419efa [12:34] amerigo: you'll need: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces [12:34] amerigo: as its root owned [12:34] when I do CTRL+ALT+F1, I can't see my tty anymore (neither can I see the various messages when I shut my computer down) [12:34] this happens since my upgrade to 8.10 [12:34] Anyone ever notice tehse Portable 'laptop sized' usb hard drives having a usb cable with 2 conectors that plug into the pc? whats the reason for that? just to get more power to the HD? [12:35] dr_willis: yeah sounds like extra power to me [12:35] ActionParsnip: address for loopback must be cleared? [12:36] amerigo: huh? [12:36] ActionParsnip: i have : address 127.0.0.1 [12:37] amerigo: then dont use it, i only gave you mine to show the format of the file, populate it with your settings [12:37] Just wondering what the effect of using a normal usb cable would be - with just 1 plug. [12:37] how are all [12:37] the drive seems to work with a normal cable.. but just being safe [12:37] ActionParsnip: it is used for php [12:37] Salze_: khotkeys is a deamon that should be loaded by default [12:38] Salze_: check the System Settings-Advanced-Services [12:38] girls online? [12:38] markus_: don't be a jerk! [12:39] please what [12:39] Mamarok: it says it is loaded. [12:39] Salze_: strange, did you try to reload X? [12:40] can you read german [12:40] markus_: "girls online?" is a jerky question. [12:40] amerigo: then leave it in, just add the lines for eth0 [12:40] sorry [12:42] who can write german [12:42] markus_: go to #kubuntu-de [12:42] why [12:42] that's the German channel [12:43] if you want to write/speak/ask in German [12:43] thanky you [12:43] np [12:44] Mamarok: yes. [13:09] dr_willis: ty man === adder is now known as Agate [13:19] hey, I'm just getting started with a new kubuntu server, and I'm wondering if there's anyway to check if there's any security bulletins which may apply to my system though the shell? [13:20] *through [13:20] something similar to glsa-check on gentoo if anyone is familiar with that [13:21] I guess some other way of receiving information about security updates would do as well [13:22] I just update/upgrade at least once a week [13:23] I'd rather not upgrade packages which I don't need to upgrade though, since each such upgrade is a stability risk... [13:24] anyway, I subscribed to a mailing list with security updates, I guess that will have to do [13:26] Good Morning all [13:26] Good Morning all [13:26] oops [13:27] lo [13:30] hi ActionParsnip [13:31] hi BluesKaj [13:32] !Last.fm [13:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about Last.fm [13:33] BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Last.fm [13:33] BluesKaj: bit of luck [13:33] yeah === vic is now known as Guest75683 [13:34] ActionParsnip, I tried it but the registration insisted spelling my nick wrong so i dumped it [13:35] BluesKaj: just use the mispelled name, as long as you get access it doesnt matter surely [13:36] I'm not real keen on what most ppl are listening to anyway ... I listen to what I like [13:36] ok, I'm having a major brain fart === dYna is now known as basti [13:36] how do I get kubuntu to see a XP drive on another computer? [13:37] Setup a 'share' on the remote box.. and access the share. [13:38] again, major brain fart, *how* do I set up a 'share'?? [13:38] how do I identify the windoze box? [13:38] !samba | Kiry [13:38] Kiry: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/212098 [13:39] Set up s 'shared' on the windows box .. using the windows tools/menus [13:39] You may want to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf to be on the same workgroup as the windows box also.. makes things easier [13:40] Kiry: if you want it mounted at boot you can use smbmount and it will appear as a local folder [13:40] ah, I have one XP box that can be seen by the 'nix one, but not the other one [13:40] Action, this! [13:40] I recognize smbmount but don't remember how it was invoked :-/ [13:41] Kiry: then you have a little project ;) [13:41] aye [13:46] You need to have the samba server installed on the linux box.. if you want windows to access any shares on it.. [13:46] and of course - setup/defind some shares for windows to access [13:54] is there a package like auto-apt for aptitude users? [13:54] chfwiggum: aptitude uses apt-get :) [13:54] it's just a frontend [13:56] Mamarok: :) so i can also use apt-get when using aptitude before? i really thought it's the other way 'round. thx a lot for not letting me die stupid :) [13:56] hi, where can I find more information about Kubuntu Jaunty? I would like to help spotting and testing bugs [13:57] NielsE: it's still bleeding edge alpha, not for production use at all [13:57] Mamarok: I know [13:57] Mamarok: but its not on http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ [13:58] I have found this: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs-Kubuntu/jaunty/alpha-1/ is this the official alpha 1 version? [13:58] NielsE: of course not, it's not released yet :) [13:58] Mamarok: I'm searching for the alpha, I've been on Ubuntu Intrepid since Alpha 1 so I know what I'm going into, but the kubuntu.com site is very unclear about the upcoming release [14:00] NielsE: check the CD image here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-1/ [14:01] Mamarok: thanks, too bad the Kubuntu .iso has also the "over 700mb", i think I'm going to test it in a vm for now [14:04] * Mamarok always has some 800 Mb CD-RWs lying around :) [14:15] Merhaba arkadaşlar [14:31] NeoTr: English please! [14:35] hi! how i can install home workgroup windows vista and this linux kubuntu? === moi is now known as moisad [14:38] moisad, how do you mean...on seperate partitions ? [14:40] i want share printer to windows computers [14:42] !sharedprinting | moisad [14:42] moisad: If you are unable to share a printer over the network on 7.10 (Gutsy), AppArmour could be the problem. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531343 to see how to disable it temporarily or permanently [14:43] uhm, i thought that would be more informative [14:43] hi guys, i'm having a big problem with ipw2200. it's just unable to associate to my essid. i've found this thread in ubuntuforums (971872). can any one help me? [14:45] moisad: look, you need to use Samba to share printers, but i'm completely at a loss on how to configure that in KDE 4 (and for that matter in KDE 3 too mostly) [14:47] hello, do you know what is the default mysql password? I installed the mysql database from repository and now I dont know how to administrate it... [14:49] this linuxcomputer found windows computer but windows computer didnt found linux computer [14:50] moisad: you need to install the "samba" package, but then i don't know how to configure it graphically in KDE (as opposed to messing with /etc/samba/smb.conf) [14:50] can i have you msn talk more? [14:50] WHY I HAVE Linux Delta-1 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux [14:51] canonical ssucks? [14:51] :B [14:51] KiDFlaSh: ... what's the issue exactly? [14:52] no issue [14:52] but why canonical gives -9? [14:52] and not the stable one [14:53] KiDFlaSh, that numbering system is no longer operative [14:53] ie odd unstable, even stable [14:54] ok [14:59] hello all... [15:00] I've updated to jaunty, and as expected there are a few problems. [15:00] But... does Kubuntu default to double click to open folders? [15:00] mikelima: I think yes [15:01] !jaunty | mikelima [15:01] mikelima: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion. [15:01] Tm_T: but shouldn'r it honor my settings? I have single click in my options. [15:01] mikelima: it should [15:01] Tm_T: well, it doesn't. [15:02] mikelima: just for hint: there's no "development" done there yet really, also, that kind of bug issues, if that's one, is not high priority yet [15:02] Tm_T: well, then maybe it would be better to provide unpatched packages... [15:03] mikelima: are you sure they are patched? [15:03] Well, some friend recompiled from source, and there is no problem with single click... [15:03] And I've asked #kde-devel, they said single click is the default. [15:04] yes it is in plain KDE, but we are Debian derivative, you know (:) [15:04] anyway, this conversation isn't really "support" so I'd say this is not the place, sounds ok? [15:06] thank, you, that's very helpful. [15:07] you're welcome [15:10] Драсть всем! [15:10] !ru | urij [15:10] urij: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [15:20] What is agood cheap MP3 player that works on Linux? [15:20] da_: any that works as "usb mass storage" [15:21] Okay, those at walmart? [15:21] cannot tell, closest walmart is some 20 000 miles away? [15:22] Wow, where are you? [15:22] behind Snowy Mountains [15:22] Mind is 1.5 miles [15:23] you know, people are around the world at these channels (;) [15:23] you vermont or utah? [15:23] err, neither [15:23] https://edge.launchpad.net/~tmt [15:23] Swiss alpps? [15:24] Thanks Tm_T... [15:24] np [15:25] Hello, is anyone here familiar with the tilp2 package? [15:33] !tilp2 [15:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about tilp2 [15:36] !tllo [15:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about tllo [15:36] !lol [15:36] Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks. [15:36] !rofl [15:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about rofl [15:37] is there anyway to get my /media/disk to not be in root? [15:37] i share music files and want to not chmod everytime i restart [15:39] KiDFlaSh, ?? [15:43] what is the command to edit the menu? [15:44] which menu? [15:45] the kmenu [15:45] what is wardriving ? [15:46] snarkster: right-click the 'K', select edit [15:46] can anbody tell me how to start gui of kismet in linux ? [15:46] im in beta, there is no option for edit [15:46] reanimation: it's when you drive around with a laptop looking for wifi hotpsots [15:46] what's the best thing to record a desktop session to video? recordmydesktop? [15:46] thanks [15:47] its also illegal [15:47] it's not illegal unless you join the network. [15:47] at least not in the USA [15:47] slimeypete : how to start gui of kismet in linux ? [15:47] reanimation: don't know, sorry [15:48] please help me [15:48] mansytcu sipna [15:48] meh, if the wifi hotspot is wide open they deserve to have their bandwidth leached away :P [15:49] no one how to start gui of kismet [15:50] what are the requirement to be a linux system programmer ? [15:51] n/m i found it.. duh Im an idiot.. kmenuedit [15:51] reanimation: willingness to learn and capacity for information [15:51] i mean programming skills [15:51] know C, C++, be flexible [15:51] be creative [15:52] be free [15:52] assembly is required ? [15:52] unless you're working with the kernel, I would think using assembly would be discouraged. [15:52] !chmod [15:52] An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview === mini-man_ is now known as mini-man [15:55] can some one tell whee to meet real system programmers ? === Bou is now known as Thelwyn [15:57] ubottu: tilp2 is a texas instruments calculator linking program [15:59] #ubuntu -in [16:00] #ubuntu-in [16:00] cuznt: tilp2 is a texas instruments calculator linking program [16:00] hey all [16:00] is anyone proficient with ffpeg to make avis smaller [16:01] !info tilp2 | pulaski [16:01] tilp2 (source: tilp2): TI calculator <-> PC communication program for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.01-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 361 kB, installed size 1380 kB [16:01] oops [16:02] i was not asking about tilp was asking for someone else here [16:02] yep [16:02] he left [16:03] bazhang: can you suggest an app to shick avis [16:03] shick? [16:04] !info shick [16:04] Package shick does not exist in intrepid [16:04] ActionParsnip, you mean shrink? [16:05] yeah [16:05] bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82525/ [16:06] is there a way to get my /media to load anywhere other than / [16:08] cuznt: Ive no ide but you wont gain anything. The /media folder is full of folders for mount points so uses no space [16:09] ActionParsnip, http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=FAQ avidemux ? [16:09] i must chmod everytime i restart. /media is where my shared music is [16:14] bazhang: http://wiki.showmedo.com/index.php/Video_editing_Ubuntu [16:15] bazhang: about 80% of the way down [16:16] how do you find which x11drv you are using? [16:16] How can I redirect stderr and stdout to a file? application 2>&1 1>file.txt doesn't work... [16:17] have you tried >> [16:17] snarkster: Where? [16:18] application 2>> error.txt &1>>file.txt [16:20] snarkster: Works, but isn't possible with redirect as well? === fran is now known as Guest12259 [16:22] hmm thats strange. [16:22] it should redirect to the designated file [16:23] and with &>? echo asdasdasd &> file.txt [16:23] bazhang: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/291011/comments/1 [16:25] ActionParsnip, I used ffmpeg in intrepid without issue; perhaps because I am on 32bit [16:26] possibly, 64 here [16:26] anyway, im gonna save cpu cycles and split [16:27] z [16:34] salut a tous [16:36] j ai un souci avec kubuntu et adept [16:36] !fr [16:36] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [16:36] sory [16:39] hallo an alle [16:40] hab ein problem Problem mit kaffeine und dvb-s immer wenn ich nen kanal weiterklicken will reagiert kaffeine nimmer weiss jemand was des is? [16:41] !de [16:41] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [16:45] hi [16:45] lo [16:45] hi i am running kubuntu 8.04. i cannot seet any window manager, i.e. no title bar for applications, no resizing moving etc. thnx [16:46] did you try to enable Compiz (Desktop Effects) or something? [16:46] no in fact i just removed the packages for that [16:46] thats why [16:47] part of compiz is used for the windows manager [16:47] I suspect that kwin isn't running when you log in, but I'm afraid I can't remember which file you have to edit to re-enable it. [16:47] ah k, i see [16:47] it'll be an xsession file or something like that I guess [16:48] cant even cchange focus [16:48] so what will the solution be? [16:49] ah i just ran kwin and it all came back [16:49] thx [16:50] so what will be permanent solution? [16:53] SlimeyPete so what is the permanent solution? sry just gt disconnected [16:53] jon__: you need to make it run on startup. I think you need to edit a file in /etc/X11, or possible in /usr/share somewhere [16:54] but I'm afraid I can't remember exactly which file, sorry [16:54] ok cani add it to cron or something? === avbkde is now known as avb [16:56] jon__: try "gedit ~/.xinitrc" then put "#!/bin/sh" then "exec kwin" (on a new line) in the file [16:56] that should make kwin run when you log in [16:57] that's not the "proper" way to do it but it's the best I can think of at the moment === c is now known as Guest30054 [16:58] jon__: for more on xinitrc see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession [16:58] guys, is kopete still lacking msn support? [16:59] jon__: oh, note that you might have to add "exec startkde" too [16:59] jon__: but tbh this is a hack; you'd be better off googling/forum-ing to find out how to fix your default window manager [16:59] afaik in order to use exec u need to use full path to an app [17:00] like exec `which startkde` [17:00] SlimeyPete k thx === root is now known as Guest69471 [17:03] !seen flaccid [17:03] I have no seen command [17:05] save radio stream with amarok ? [17:05] hi guys, i'm having a big problem with ipw2200. it's just unable to associate to my essid. i've found this thread in ubuntuforums (971872). can any one help me? [17:06] sudo iwconfig DEVICENAME essid "NAME ESSID" [17:09] :) streamripper === Cueball is now known as Cueball_ [17:27] guys .. there a very easy to setup vnc server that dosen't require a lot of configureing ?? [17:27] hey [17:27] !vnx [17:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about vnx [17:28] !vnc [17:28] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [17:28] !freenx [17:28] FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX [17:28] apachelogger: is there a neon channel? [17:28] macjason0607: look at tightvnc === Cueball_ is now known as Cueball [17:37] go to kubunto.de [17:39] Wot? [17:39] !hi | BluesKaj [17:39] BluesKaj: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [17:46] Hi all [17:47] SiVA_, .. most vnc servers i try to use when i connect to them from work the gui is crappy [17:49] FreeNx is nice [17:49] -ish [17:50] vncserver -geometry 1024x768 depth :32 < -- how is this command ? [17:52] hi DaSkreech ...was outside checking the burnt out christmas lights ..gotta get another string I guess [17:59] Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path. [17:59] Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script. [17:59] anyone ? [18:00] is there a /etc entry for the server? [18:01] DaSkreech, that for me ? [18:01] Yes [18:02] DaSkreech, don't know how to i find out ? [18:03] Whats the best way to clear up some space on my system? [18:03] macjason0607: erm .. look if there is a /etc/tightvnc or /etc/xtightvnc entry [18:03] rogan: from where? [18:04] DaSreech not sure I just transfered all my media to another disk and im left with about 30 gigs of used space that I dont know what it would be [18:04] ? === ubuntu_ is now known as sailor_moon [18:04] this is on / ? [18:05] I moved basicly everything off my computer and ubuntu is taking up about 30 gigs. [18:06] is that about normal? [18:06] no [18:06] DaSkreech, there is nothing [18:06] so how can I find whats taking up so much space? [18:06] rogan: ducks I guess [18:06] dont now [18:07] There is a visual way to see the space but I like ducks === heinz_ is now known as heinz__ [18:08] macjason0607: is there a /etc/vnc ? [18:08] ducks? [18:08] no [18:08] DaSkreech, i removed it [18:09] im going to try vnc4server [18:09] rogan: open a terminal and type alias ducks='du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11' [18:09] rogan: then type cd / ; ducks [18:09] It should give you the directory taking up the most space [18:09] Sorted by biggest to smallest === ubuntu_ is now known as sailor_moon [18:17] weird [18:17] i can't open my system settings [18:17] what is it saying? [18:18] DaSkreech http://pastebin.com/m3e1ed449 [18:19] who is that for ? [18:19] Hi all, I have a problem with the KBluetooth4 package. I open konsole, and run it, but it just crashes with signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I'm on Kubuntu 8.10 amd64 + 2.6.27.10-generic + KDE 4.2 beta1 [18:19] oh [18:19] hi! is there some dcop / dbus command in kde 4 which allows me to switch on / off the desktop effects via command line? [18:19] macjason0607: What does it say when you try to open systemsettings ? [18:20] DaSkreech, nothing .. it just won't open [18:20] macjason0607: open it from the command line see if it puts out an error there [18:21] rogan: You still have the external disk mounted ? [18:21] ya [18:21] unmount it [18:21] how do i open it form the command line DaSkreech ? [18:22] macjason0607: open a konsole and type systemsettings [18:22] it's in /media that's making / look bigger than it is [18:22] !kerberos [18:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about kerberos [18:22] !canonical [18:22] Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/ [18:23] !canonical does no contribution [18:23] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:24] failed [18:24] !failed [18:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about failed [18:26] DaSkreech http://pastebin.com/m5ae2a0c8 http://pastebin.com/m148a7bdd [18:26] !canonical failed? [18:26] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:27] KiDFlaSh: What are you doing? [18:27] rogan: that's still a lot of stuf in home [18:27] i try to ask the bot, importand questions [18:28] hi @ll [18:28] cd into home (or if you know which one is taking up space into that dir) and type ducks again [18:28] you can essentially keep doing that to track down what is using space [18:28] KiDFlaSh: Please message the bot [18:28] ok [18:30] ok here's what i've got: a 3 year old laptop with sis integrated vga, and a flatscreen tv witha vga input. I can't figure out any way that works, to use the tv as a screen in kubuntu [18:30] any suggestions? [18:31] (other than buy a new box with a better graphics card) [18:31] rjb: does the driver support xrandr? => check the output of the xrandr command === goeser is now known as kottlett [18:32] Yeah that^^^ [18:32] damn defaults -_- [18:32] ok taking notes (the laptop is back at home) === vonkleist__ is now known as vonkleist [18:33] btw doing obvious stuff with systems settings does not work [18:34] otoh at boot the splash screen does display on the tv (when connected) [18:34] rjb: I think the systemsettings stuff for display configuration is beta - if at all =P if your driver supports the randr extension, everything might just be easy [18:35] well i tried looking up info under the url given in the driver's manpage [18:35] unfortunately it seems that site went away :( [18:36] when I try to print from okular it freezes on me [18:36] could my default printer being on a different wifi network than I am on right now be causing it? [18:37] same thing when I try to look at the printer config app === oscar is now known as vatusaixx [18:38] hola alguien que desee charlar [18:38] hola [18:41] hola [18:41] !es | vatusaixx [18:41] vatusaixx: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [18:51] I have a simple question that someone may have the answer to: when I try to install an nvidia proprietary driver with the hardware drivers app, i click activate and it doesn't [18:51] any ideas why it would do that? [18:54] !removepulseaudio [18:54] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:55] !pulseaudio-kubuntu [18:55] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:55] ? [18:55] ok, removal of pulseaudio in kubuntu hardy [18:56] reading the wiki page shows a place to change the config.. which is [18:56] either a file that does not exist, or a part of the gui that I can't see [18:56] gnome-specific? [18:57] /system/preferences/sound? [19:00] is it safe to delete the .cache folder? i noticed its got about 9gigs of junk in it [19:01] http://pastebin.com/m24018e86 [19:05] rogan: yes [19:07] has anyone gotten the wireless start before logging in? === Drachenblut is now known as Lord_Drachenblut === macman is now known as macjason0607 [19:11] is there a page which describes how to remove pulseaudio from kubuntu? [19:11] or any advice anyone can offer? [19:12] when i open a document over a network from a samba share using Dolphin it automatically wants to copy the entire file to my drive before opening [19:12] any ideas how to prevent that? [19:13] anyone have success in getting flash to work in 8.04? [19:13] this page from the Kubuntu wiki https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio offers instructions for GUI configuration and removal which are Gnome-specific. [19:13] in mozzila? [19:13] yes, logan [19:14] how [19:14] but I didn't do anything particularly abnormal [19:14] it just worked [19:14] well, I say that, I currently have a pulseaudio problem - somehow it's ended up installed [19:14] so that's my sound borked then. [19:15] ah well, I guess when I uninstall pulseaudio my sound will just break [19:16] since I can't follow the gnome instructions here: [19:16] !pulseaudio [19:16] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [19:16] or here: [19:16] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio [19:16] i install and install but no go on flash [19:17] loganWHD: Try Firefox. [19:18] i am in FF [19:18] loganWHD: Maybe you have an addon that's conflicting with it...? [19:24] buenas [19:26] * chalcedny smiles [19:26] my husband's computer worked this morning, he went out of the room and came back, the power supply had quit working. So now trying t [19:27] get his old one to work, but i'm getting two beeps-three beeps, nothing on the monitor/ [19:27] ? [19:28] chalcedny: ##hardware ? [19:29] chalcedny: Is everything snug inside the case, and is everything plugged in properly? [19:29] DaSkreech ##hardware seems not to be interested [19:30] What mainboard manufacturer + model? [19:30] plugged in... [19:32] That sequence of beeps you hear give a quite good hint on what could be wrong. [19:33] To find out what the sequence means, you need to know the manufacturer + mb model... === octav is now known as octavian [19:35] im really getting agrivated.... I downloaded amarok and keep getting the "No available decoder" error message... I uninstalled and reinstalled and still get the same thing... I want to listen to internet radio only.. Can someone help me please.... [19:36] Guest41222: what distro? [19:36] ubuntu 8.10 [19:36] did you download Amarok from the repos? [19:36] y [19:36] synaptic [19:37] did you also install the libxine1-ffmpeg package? [19:37] that's where the mp3 codecs are :) [19:37] sorry , Im new to linux.. didnt know that I had to or how to [19:37] Guest41222, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg [19:37] in the konsole [19:37] Guest41222: well, mp3 codec is patented software, so it's not installed by default [19:38] i see, I am downloading now [19:38] faichele are the letters SN in a rectangular box indicative ? [19:38] done [19:38] so do I reinstall again? [19:38] i don't think i see any numbers.. [19:38] Do you have a set of manuals for that PC? [19:39] Guest41222, no need to reinstall just install libxine1-ffmpeg [19:39] ok, let me try it again [19:40] faichele i suspect he asked it and read it off the monitor... asking him [19:41] If you know how to get the case open... the manufacturer + model ID are usually found printed on the mainboard itself. [19:41] ya know,,,, I have been tring for 4 days to get this damn thing fixed.. I THANK YOU for your time helping me.. [19:41] faichele it's open lying there.. ii just don't see any.. [19:42] i have a flashlight even [19:42] Guest41222: Welcome to Linux [19:42] theres often Info on the very very first screen of the bootup/post display also.. You may have to hit pause/break to pause it.. so you can read them [19:42] dr_willis is that for me? it's not getting anything on the monitor [19:43] http://www.bioscentral.com/ [19:43] chalcedny: Is the cord that plugs into the monitor plugged in properly? [19:43] Look on the right side for "BIOS beep codes". [19:43] yes. Lots of times however.. the monitor dosent show a picture fast enough ive seen.. ;( bios may also have a page with some info/#'s [19:44] Beep Codes. :) The fun stuff. [19:44] Guest89929: great it works :) [19:44] Without knowing which mainboard manufacturer, no way to tell which BIOS is used, sorry... [19:44] oops, wron Guest-nick :) [19:44] hello.. i always get KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/ktorrent' - sorry dolphin.... but the program works just fine :) [19:44] *wrong [19:47] two things say gigabyte [19:48] cord is directly to the monitor [19:48] Gigabyte... OK. [19:48] Now for the model number... [19:49] vt8233 [19:49] ? [19:49] That's a chipset identifier. [19:50] ok [19:50] Look for a number/letter sequence starting with "GA-" [19:50] That sounds like a model number [19:50] hmm [19:50] what MP3 player works well with kubuntu? [19:50] amarok, da_ [19:50] and it's awesome :) [19:51] i gave up looking on the board surface.. there just aren't numbers bigger than the teeny identifiers [19:51] Is that the name of the player? [19:51] da_: yes [19:51] yes, and the package :) [19:51] Da [19:52] da_: if you install it, don't forget to install the libxine1-ffmpeg package also, else you have no decoder [19:52] qualcuno italiano? [19:52] so, do I get the package from [19:52] !it [19:52] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [19:53] http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_List.aspx?FAQID=2234 [19:53] ok,ty [19:53] foundit! GA 7VTXE rev 1.1 [19:53] da_: are you familiar with the command line? [19:53] yes [19:54] type sudo apt-get install Amarok libxine1-ffmpeg [19:54] okty [19:54] hm, amarok would be better :) [19:54] my husband uses amarok, it's nice [19:55] faichele foundit! GA 7VTXE rev 1.1 [19:55] the little iconhere on the bottom for amarok mean anything? [19:56] da_: It's he system tray icon you can mouse wheel up/down on it it to fast forward or reverse the song [19:56] as well as volume [19:57] ok, I'm going out to but a MP3 player,just want to get music for it... [19:58] hi [19:58] so anyone get flash working in 8.04 [19:58] i have tried so many posts === patricio is now known as Guest18622 [19:58] and can't get it to work [19:58] What was the beep sequence again? === Guest18622 is now known as patricio_ [19:58] hello [19:58] faichele: two then three [19:58] loganWHD: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [19:59] yah [19:59] been there [19:59] done that [19:59] da_: you should check this page before you buy something: [19:59] 500 times [19:59] http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Devices [19:59] unistalled [19:59] reinstalled [19:59] etc [19:59] nada [19:59] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash [20:00] loganWHD: how it doesn't work? [20:00] and excuse me for all those orange colors :) [20:00] ie. when i go to youtube or any other flash site i get this message [20:00] GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Specification - GA-7VTXE [20:00] GIGABYTE,Product,Motherboard,Specification,GA-7VTXE. ... GIGA-BYTE TECHNOLOGY CO ., LTD. Any unauthorized use is strictly prohibited. [20:01] Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. [20:01] www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=1310 [20:01] loganWHD: please see the link I gave you then.. :) [20:01] thanks i shall [20:01] yw [20:02] I can't recognize the BIOS manufacturer on that screenshot; too small. [20:02] IS there any difference in the lkenght of the beeps? [20:02] Length of the beeps... [20:02] noob here [20:02] why does adept make my kubuntu crash [20:02] every single time [20:02] ? [20:03] and sudo apt-get in the console won't work either [20:05] is there an nvidia equivalent of the fglrx test "fgl_glxgears" ? [20:06] glade88: i appreciate the help [20:06] but this wasnt what i needed [20:06] this was the standard how to install [20:06] i did this 1000 times [20:06] anybody has performance problems with nvidia? [20:06] what's your problem logan? [20:06] flash [20:06] and 8.04 [20:06] getting it work [20:07] loganWHD: tried all three flash alternatives FF gives? [20:07] in a particular browser? [20:07] Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. [20:07] in FF [20:07] i never get the pop up asking me to install plug ins [20:07] is it an FF you installed from the website, or one from a package? [20:07] faichele they are two short fast beeps and then three short fast beeps.. all the same length with a longish space in between the two sets [20:07] so i did it thru konsole, synaptic.... [20:07] so does anyone know how to fix this? "E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)" [20:07] right, and it just acts like the plugin isn't installed? [20:08] i am gonna say i think package [20:08] i can't install/upgrade anything anymore [20:08] synaptix: yes [20:08] going through adept makes kubuntu crash [20:08] loganWHD: do you have "Shockwave flash" in Toold->addons->plugins ? [20:08] going through the other apps fails [20:08] tells you you need to go and get it some? [20:08] Magni: do you run adept with sudo? [20:08] *somewhere [20:08] NO [20:08] faichele i found the manual online, but not the codes, separately... are they in the pdf manual? [20:08] glade88: no [20:08] and going through the console givesme this E54 [20:08] of course [20:09] Magni: do you get error messages more explicit than just a number? [20:09] E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) [20:09] I get this [20:09] i have tried to install from adobe [20:09] no matter what install/upgrade I try to do [20:09] installed the non-free [20:09] konsole [20:09] synaptic [20:09] nada on all [20:09] Magni: ok, so you should edit your sources.list [20:10] and check if there is an error somewhere [20:10] alright, how do I do this [20:10] did you restart firefox? I guess so? [20:10] and how do know what the error is [20:10] hehe [20:10] 1000x's [20:10] eeks [20:10] just got on linux three weeks ago so noob [20:10] Hi! [20:10] Magni: try it on the command line with the following command: [20:10] you could try to put a symbolic link to it in your firefox installation's plugins directory [20:11] then restart it [20:11] sudo kate /etc/apt/sources-list [20:11] Magni congratulations for taking the big step [20:11] These beep codes aren't usually documented by mb manufacturers themselves. [20:11] synaptix: not sure hwat that means? [20:11] They depend on the BIOS manufacturer's choice. [20:11] The file /etc/apt/sources-list could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it. [20:11] Check if you have read access to this file. [20:11] ahhh [20:12] Magni: you can then copy-past your file in http://past.ubuntu.com and send the link here [20:12] faichele the bios chip has numbers etc .. want that? [20:12] sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ [20:12] and restart firefox? [20:12] Magni: hm, did you erase it? [20:12] i can't open it [20:12] only get errors [20:12] What's printed on it? [20:12] !list [20:12] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [20:13] Mamarok did you mean: http://paste.ubuntu.com ? [20:13] synaptix: that didnt do anything [20:13] (make sure you really exit it, and the download window, might want to killall -9 firefox-bin a couple of times after you think it's shut down, too) [20:14] Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82619/ [20:14] Magni: looks like your file is broken, can you give me the output of ls -a /etc/apt/ in pastebin please? [20:15] I just installed latest Kopete with KDE 4.2beta1. Looks like there is no support for the MSN protocol in this version. Is this a known error or just me fooling around? [20:15] loganWHD: what does "dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree" give you. If this is installed, this must show under addons->plugins [20:15] chalcedny: yes, that's what I meant , thx for correcting [20:15] what do you get when you do: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so [20:15] Mamarok np [20:16] @ loganWHD: [20:16] what do you get when you do: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so [20:16] Magni: ls -la I mean (should read before I send things, not my day) [20:16] let me check [20:16] doing the first thing [20:17] also, did you copy an old firefox folder in? It might be that it can't write to the plugin registry deely.... [20:17] hrm [20:17] mamarok: wait, what do I type? [20:17] i might have done that but i dont think so [20:17] la -a /etc/apt/ [20:17] but i did do a back up [20:17] faichele: It [20:17] and then restore it i think [20:17] ok, can you do these things for me: [20:17] you mean permissions wise? [20:17] in console [20:17] ? [20:17] faichele: It's an AMI bios: http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/manuals/Gigabyte/GA-7VTXE/ [20:17] firstly, we clean up the file you created earlier: [20:17] Magni: ls -la /etc/apt/ [20:18] in console, yes [20:18] i uninstalled then tried to do a install of nonfree [20:18] i'm moving from this laptop to my own computer.. [20:18] and got [20:18] sudo rm /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so [20:18] download failed [20:18] The Flash plugin is NOT installed. [20:18] mamrok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82621/ [20:18] ok, well do that ^, then try to reinstall flash. [20:18] thnx for the help btw [20:18] ok synaptix that is done [20:19] http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/post-beep-codes.htm [20:19] and while flash installs, let's check the perms on that firefox folder [20:19] AMI BIOS codes don't seem to make a difference with long/short... [20:19] ls -la ~/.mozilla [20:19] Just number of beeps relevant, and 5 is a bad sign in that case. [20:19] pop the output on pastebin [20:20] 5 Beeps - Processor Error (may need replacement Processor) [20:20] Magni: it looks correct so far [20:20] Magni: does the following command produce something: [20:20] can anybody help me [20:20] less /etc/apt/sources.list [20:21] synaptix: you want me to do [20:21] apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [20:21] onur_: ask your question [20:21] ls -la ~/.mozilla [20:21] sorry [20:21] yes [20:21] mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82623/ [20:22] hey, I'm having an issue where amarok freezes when I'm away from my computer, then won't start when I kill it and try to start it again. It will start if I reboot, but that's a lame solution. Can anyone help me out? [20:23] Magni: it looks ok, very strange that you can't edit it [20:24] what was the error you had when trying to edit it with kate? [20:24] synaptix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82627/ [20:24] aha! [20:24] :) [20:25] flash installed [20:25] Mamarok: [20:25] [21:11] The file /etc/apt/sources-list could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it. [20:25] [21:11] Check if you have read access to this file. [20:25] firefox can't register the plugin [20:25] do this: [20:25] ok [20:25] Magni: you did use the sudo command, didn't you? [20:25] yup [20:25] then entered your password? [20:25] always, first thing i learned [20:26] ill retry if you think that's what it is [20:26] very strange... [20:26] sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername ~/.mozilla [20:26] I just installed Kopete 4:4.1.80-0 with KDE 4.2beta1. Looks like there is no support for the MSN protocol in this version. Is this a known error or just me fooling around? The boys over at #kopete suggest to contact you guys and mention missing "libmsn". Any ideas? [20:26] change the usernames :) [20:26] ok, I think I found the error: [20:26] to your own, heh [20:26] Magni: I think your sources.list is written sources-list, that's wrong! [20:26] * Mamarok wonders how that could happen [20:26] close firefox [20:27] closed [20:27] although i am in as root [20:27] right now [20:27] so how do I fix it? [20:27] does anybody have performance issues with nvidia and kde 4.1? [20:27] do I just rename the file in dolphin [20:28] you are in as root? [20:28] si [20:28] you're not running firefox as root? [20:28] ! [20:28] im not? [20:28] Magni: no, it seems correct form your ls -la output [20:28] still strange you cant edit it [20:28] KennethP: libmsn and associated msn support is missing in the current beta, yes. It's mentioned in the notes @ kubuntu.org. [20:29] Magni: try the following: [20:29] Magni: sudo chown root /etc/apt/sources.list [20:29] guys [20:29] Your main user account shouldn't be root [20:29] Ch1ppy: Ahhh, I actually snooped around there also, but must need stronger glasses...;-) Thanks for the heads up! [20:29] That leaves me out... (: [20:30] The one you run your desktop as [20:30] Mamarok: is anything visible supposed to happen? cause I got nothing [20:30] Magni: that's ok [20:30] I mean the mind boggles at how vulnerable you are if you're IRCing and web browsing as root [20:30] Magni: if there was an error it would say it [20:30] ok [20:30] not that vulnerable [20:30] Magni: try again sudo apt-get update [20:31] i saw you tried to get my user info [20:31] but that is hidden [20:31] tried to? [20:31] in irc [20:31] I looked to see if you are root@hostname [20:31] of course i am not [20:31] Mamarok: same error: E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) [20:31] right, and presumably you're not running firefox as root, but as your user account? [20:32] the user that should own your firefox directory is the user you run firefox as [20:32] your ~/.mozilla/.firefox directory :) [20:32] Magni: could you give me the last lines you get with less /etc/apt/sources.list? [20:32] it seems cut in the last pastbin you sent [20:33] ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' [20:33] ## repository. [20:33] ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as [20:33] ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes [20:33] /etc/apt/sources.list [20:33] i am not sure why the kubuntu/ubuntu community is so uptight abotu running as root [20:33] Magni, the line to look at would be like 54 :) [20:33] YES [20:33] Magni: hm, you have /etc/apt/sources.list as last line? [20:33] loganWHD, security is a 'process' and its all about layers of security. [20:33] only idiots run large gui apps as root and wander around the web with them [20:34] if you know better than everyone else that's fine, and good luck to you :) [20:34] Magni: you didn't press the space bar, there are more lines [20:34] try again [20:34] Mamarok, it's alright, I opened sources.list with Dolphin, and removed the source I had last added [20:34] it's working now [20:34] i am not saying i know better than everyone else [20:34] I mean you're running *javascript* as root :) [20:34] Magni: great :) [20:34] but htere are other ways to protect yourself [20:35] besides locking yourself out of oyur system [20:35] Mamarok: thanks :), g2g eat now see ya everyone [20:35] and obviously i am NOT running javascript as root [20:35] since it wont work [20:35] :) [20:35] well you see every single vulnerability in every piece of software becomes a showstopper [20:35] Layers upon layers.. and i dont feel the ubuntu way 'locks youself out' [20:35] Magni: you're welcome :) [20:35] If you dont like it.. disable it. [20:35] if you are running firefox as root, you *are* running javascript as root. [20:35] Ch1ppy: Got help? [20:36] DaSkreech: Nope :( [20:36] so a simple bad piece of javascript that would ordinarily lock a tab, can take your whole system down :) [20:36] and that can't happen in another user??? [20:36] KennethP: There is no MSN it said that on the instructions [20:36] macjason0607: Sup? [20:36] obviously not. [20:37] ok [20:37] loganWHD: Cause that's the policy I guess. [20:37] yah [20:37] well i guess that is a risk i am willing to take [20:38] Theres 'secure' theres 'paranoid' and then theres 'TinFoilHat Paranoid' [20:38] indeed. Go for it. [20:38] I see no reason to ever run a browser as root... [20:38] true [20:38] or most apps.. [20:38] Ch1ppy: What causes it to freeze? [20:38] running a web browser as root is especially asking for it. [20:38] and running the gnome or kde file manager.. can also cause problems. [20:38] loganWHD: It's a silly risk :) [20:38] well i was looking to get something working not an ethics discussion [20:39] sorry for upsetting you all [20:39] just because there are so many bugs, and so many pages, and so many people who are actively out to exploit you, or who are unintentionally triggering problems. [20:39] loganWHD: What are you trying to do? [20:39] it's not ethics, at all :) [20:39] loganWHD: How are you installing Firefox? [20:39] installed [20:39] can't get javascript to run in ff [20:39] DaSkreech: I haven't the faintest clue. It freezes while I'm away and it's paused. I checked dmesg, but nothing comes up and there is no output when I run it from console, so I have no way to check... [20:39] loganWHD: How did you install it? [20:39] Amarok 1.4 ? [20:39] i believe it was a download [20:39] I thought it was flash you couldn't get to run, loganWHD? [20:39] DaSkreech: Yep [20:39] flash yes [20:39] sorry [20:40] i got turned around [20:40] loganWHD: From the Mozilla webpage? [20:40] little: yes [20:40] loganWHD: try apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [20:40] Hmm.. flash works for me in the normal firefox/install of kubuntu/ubuntu.. perhaps we need to start at the beginning with the original propblem [20:40] locanWHD: You might want to try uninstalling it (yet again) and installing it again, but this time use the package manager to install it. [20:40] anyway, I'm going to advise against the whole silly business of running firefox as root, and I'm not going to facilitate it at all :) [20:40] yep yep tried that 100 times [20:40] !turkish [20:40] Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde. [20:40] Good luck with your problem :) [20:40] ok [20:40] loganWHD: What did taht do? (You did it with Firefox closed right?) [20:41] DaSkreech: Tnx - I'll go find my glasses... [20:41] KennethP: You drastically needed MSN? [20:42] nada it didnt work [20:42] and yes ff was closed [20:42] i will uninstall it all [20:42] loganWHD: Error? [20:42] no error [20:42] just wont play flash [20:42] what site? [20:42] i will try a reinstall again [20:42] pick one [20:42] youtube [20:42] any [20:42] loganWHD: This time use the package manager to install Firefox and see if that helps. [20:43] i am almost done uninstalling [20:43] i will then apt-get it === vonkleist_ is now known as vonkleist [20:45] nada [20:45] uninstall [20:45] apt-get it [20:45] ff works [20:45] loganWHD: Before you reinstall Flash, do you have a .macromedia directory in your home directory? [20:45] then i apt-get flash and get this [20:45] download failed [20:45] The Flash plugin is NOT installed. [20:45] let me check [20:45] * Mamarok is afk [20:45] yes i do [20:46] loganWHD: You might want to try uninstalling Flash, moving that directory somewhere else if it still exists afterward and then reinstalling Flash. [20:46] ok [20:46] loganWHD: If that works, then you can delete the moved directory. [20:47] I'm dead curious what could be causing this. Firefox and Flash should work "out of the box". I'm thinking something else is behind this. [20:47] ok moved [20:47] now gonna reinstall [20:47] * little crosses fingers [20:48] file:///root/.macromedia [20:48] wnload failed [20:48] The Flash plugin is NOT installed. [20:48] download failed [20:48] same error as before [20:48] hmmm === Hydrogen_ is now known as Wasserstoff [20:49] loganWHD: Maybe it has something to do with you running as root. Have you tried creating a new user and installing it as that user and seeing if it works that way? [20:49] i can === root is now known as Guest28949 [20:49] but i doubt it [20:49] but i can try [20:49] loganWHD: There could be a built-in protection. [20:50] DaSkreech: I ran strace on it and I'm getting a lot of "read(3, 0x83f845c, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" sort of deal... [20:50] Guest28949: Don't IRC as root! [20:50] which version of Kubuntu are you on? [20:51] bbl [20:56] DaSkreech: I'm not sure what's causing the problem, but I had two runaway "kded" processes that seemed to be causing the problem. I killed both of them and amarok starts properly now. However, I'm having an issue with the status icons - they're opening in their own window. How do I fix that? [20:56] Gee - all i ever do to get flash going is install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package... [20:57] !info kcron [20:57] kcron (source: kdeadmin): program scheduler for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 194 kB, installed size 500 kB [20:59] The status?? Oh the Systray icons? [21:00] i i install kcron i can't use it.. is there no usable kcron for kde4.1.3? [21:00] Hi! I'm using the 4.2 beta1 packages. Is it possible to make use of the new kephal multi display support goodness? If I setup my external display with xrandr or grandr to be left of the notebook display instead of mirroring it, plasma is completely borked [21:00] clarify what you mean by 'cant use it' perhaps.. [21:00] kde 4.2 beta1, that is [21:01] hey dr_willis was up? [21:01] i can't run it, over console or from kmenu.. [21:01] very little here. [21:02] noaXess: It's in System settings [21:03] DaSkreech: where? [21:03] aha "Task sheduler" :) [21:04] can i run it in single mode, without going to systemsettings? [21:05] noaXess: Ahm I guess [21:05] you'd have to jigger poke it though === hunter_ is now known as strixv [21:07] DaSkreech: Nahh just noticed that my kids were gone from the list...;-) [21:08] KennethP: It's KDE 4.2 B1 Do you know where your children are ? [21:09] DaSkreech: They are grown up so I guess that a nope right now... [21:09] KennethP: Panik!! :) [21:15] hi tackat [21:16] hi DaSkreech [21:17] how are you? [21:18] huhu tackat :) [21:18] Mamarok: Hi Myriam [21:20] Hi guys are some people here expericing problems with gmail? my girlfriend says she did send a mail and i still dont have it and same happend when i did mail myself with hotmail [21:21] Gmail was spitting errors like crazy for me earlier [21:22] when today ? [21:23] Yes [21:23] because she says to me that she did send it on 16 hour and i still dont have anything, and when i tested it for myself the same no mails, but strangly out works [21:24] hi [21:24] is the kde4.2b1 compiled completle? because in my apt's opinion it misses a lot of packages [21:26] fale: Which packages? [21:27] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/1280120 <-- pretty much everyone [21:27] kdelibs, kdebase-runtime === EagleSn is now known as EagleScreen [21:29] fale: maybe your mirror is not up-to-date [21:30] Mamarok: mmm those packages are on a single ppa, it seems to me... isn't it? [21:30] true, didn't think of that one [21:31] :-) [21:31] I cannot change the size of Adept 3 fonts [21:31] they are too large for my small screen [21:32] I am having trouble burning some ISO's of movies. Some burn fine and play fine. Others burn, but won't play in my dvd player. [21:32] DaSkreech: do you have some ideas? [21:33] fale: try kubuntu-desktop instead? [21:33] JuJuBee, try playing the iso files from the hd with vlc or mplayer, as a test of gthe iso file [21:34] dr_willis: I did and it played fine. [21:34] dr_willis : i burned it twice and both wont play in my player [21:34] how were the isos made? [21:35] I downloaded a movie, dvd-decrypter/shrink and burned an iso with k3b. [21:35] DaSkreech: is already at the last version [21:36] I think that there is no way to change the font size of some KDE applications in Kubuntu 8.10 [21:36] for instance, Adept, gdebi-kde... [21:36] DaSkreech: ok, an apt-get -f install found all the libs ;) [21:36] fale: Umm ok so what are you installin then? [21:37] DaSkreech: now is installing the kdelibs5 that before was not finding -_- [21:37] EagleScreen: If they are X/Qt apps I think there is always a way just may be more command lineish than you are used to [21:37] dr_willis : any ideas? [21:37] JuJuBee, i tend to use DeVeDe to convert vidoes to dvd format [21:38] K, I will look for it. [21:39] DaSkreech i think that is because they are running as root, and root preferences are separed [21:41] Yes.. apps ran by the root user.. will use th root users settings/themes if possible [21:41] Ive often set up the root user to use BRIGHT RED colors/themes to make sure i know what apps are getting ran as root [21:43] are you using kde 4.2 b1? [21:43] Policykit will fix that issues, but it is not enought mature for KDE [21:45] DaSkreech now the mails did come in the inbox [21:45] sourcemaker: I'm trying to [21:45] * fale still has some little dependeces problems [21:45] fale: What failed now? [21:45] wesley: Whoot [21:46] DaSkreech: kde-icons-oxygen pkg-kde-tools [21:46] sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb [21:47] it works :) and for the pkg-kde-tools? [21:47] try apt-get -f install [21:47] ciao === joseph is now known as joseph_ [21:48] DaSkreech: ok, fixed [21:48] ciao joseph_ [21:48] DaSkreech: thx :) [21:48] fale: log out and back in [21:48] gmail is today really fucked up [21:49] I hope in the good luck ;) [21:49] !ohmy [21:49] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [21:53] It workis :) === aib_ is now known as aib [21:56] DaSkreech: do you know something about kalzium? [21:56] It's german for calcium? [21:57] DaSkreech: nope, is a program of kdedu [21:57] !kalzium [21:57] Sorry, I don't know anything about kalzium [21:58] !info kalzium [21:58] kalzium (source: kdeedu): periodic table and chemistry tools for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 730 kB, installed size 2140 kB [21:58] BluesKaj: my question was about the 4.2b1 version ;) [21:58] DaSkreech: what was the command that you told me before? [21:59] for oxygen [22:04] fale: it says install oxygen [22:05] what do you want to know abou the beta version? [22:05] DaSkreech: I think I found how ;) [22:05] thx [22:05] just install it [22:13] 4.2 Beta 1 nice to see Task Manager Grouping in the works. buggy on my machine. [22:19] Foodcoman: What is it doing? === ubuntu_ is now known as matti_ [22:22] guys .. how do i make it so that every application that i open up stays the size that i want it ? [22:24] DaSkreech: If I set to group 1 row max not to fill task bar, it will group Firefox. If I switch to desktop 2 and then back, grouping drops. [22:24] macjason0607: Hmm? [22:25] Foodcoman: Oh let me try that [22:25] DaSkreech: Second, If I uncheck the Limit Rows 1 button, it groups again Like a boolean switch. [22:26] I accidentally removed my desktop panel, how do i reset it to where it has all the default widgets again? [22:26] DaSkreech: I tend to have a crash playing with it which resets the taskbar and I have to add back the Task Widget. [22:26] keres: Not sure how to get to defaults here. Maybe somone else. [22:27] Anyone? help? [22:27] keres: kquitapp plasma; mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc ~/plasmarc.bkup; plasma [22:27] keres: If you just need one object back. Right click, add widget. Scroll to show desktop item and add it. [22:28] no, i accidentally removed the whole panel and everything is gone [22:28] keres: Daskreech's tip for sure. [22:28] itś not working [22:29] 3 steps, semi is not part of a command line. [22:29] right click and add panel ? [22:29] ooohhh [22:29] Does anyone know what is happening with kopete and msn in the 4.2 beta? When can we expect libmsn to be added and such? [22:29] Ch1ppy: #kubuntu-devel [22:29] DaSkreech: Thanks :) [22:29] Don't expect an answer right now most people are at UDS [22:30] Fair enough [22:31] http://pastebin.com/m1aa42d56 [22:32] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m1aa42d56 === glade88 is now known as glade88|ZzZ [22:33] Someone help [22:33] ? [22:33] hey guys [22:34] DaSkreech: UDS = ? [22:35] Ubuntu Developer Summit [22:35] DaSkreech: oh, I see [22:35] thx [22:36] keres: that doesn't get you back a default set of settings? [22:36] DaSkreech: no [22:37] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m1a13862f [22:37] keres: when you quit mv share/config/plasma-appletsrc as well [22:37] so move two files [22:37] how? [22:38] keres: kquitapp plasma; mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc ~/plasmarc.bkup;mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc ~/plasma-appletrc.bkup; plasma === ubuntu_ is now known as matti_ [22:39] DaSkreech: Thank you!!!! [22:39] That worked? [22:39] yes it did :) [22:40] Nice work. [22:41] Linux is so easy :) [22:41] lol [22:41] is there a bug with the systray of kde 4.1? some icons arn't shown sometimes, there are only empty squares [22:42] How do you change it to where you must double-click to open a file like on ubuntu? [22:42] moepman: Short answer is yes [22:42] * Foodcoman kicks DaSkreech in the Knees. [22:42] I find linux rather easy [22:42] compared to some of the fighting ive had to do with windows [22:42] keres: systemsettings->mouse [22:42] * Foodcoman kicks dr_willis in the Knees. [22:42] DaSkreech: and any solution? [22:43] thank you david_ [22:43] one more question [22:43] I have a Storage Disk D: i have stored my backup data on from before i switched to kubuntu [22:44] It has no Operating system on it, but when i plug it in, kubuntu detects it but when i double-click on it within Dolphin, nothing happens [22:44] moepman: Which apps show up as squares? [22:44] Foodcoman: you find it hard? what's hard about it? [22:44] When i attempt to open it, it requests my password. I enter my password and no action happens [22:44] Any ideas? [22:45] DaSkreech, I love it, just takes awhile to learn all about it. [22:45] keres: USB? [22:45] DaSkreech: SATA [22:45] Foodcoman: Yeah but that;s volume [22:45] e-sata? [22:45] DaSkreech: changing.. sometimes kmix, sometimes the battery app but klipper, amarok, ktorrent, too [22:46] DaSkreech: Normal SATA. Itś what i have been using for about a year [22:46] e-sata??? [22:46] external sata [22:46] keres: oh you may just want it in the Fstab then [22:46] !fstab [22:46] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [22:46] DaSkreech: Multimedia Xorg, new hardware, ect. I have a Thinkpad W500 nearly everything work perfectly other than that an issue with the ATI video. [22:46] moepman: hrrm You have compositing on? [22:47] dunno [22:47] moepman: What video card? [22:47] Foodcoman: Yeah You will learn to hate closed source drivers after a while [22:47] DaSkreech: nvidia [22:47] LOL, Nvidia all the way. Work provided machine. [22:48] DaSkreech: with restricted drivers [22:48] DaSkreech: what is itś usage? is there a generic input that can be used? [22:49] keres: It mounts filesystems at boot time or when called. You can just always have th drive in /mnt for example [22:49] DaSkreech: now kmix is a blue square [22:49] moepman: Might be the drivers. nVidia drivers have some horrible bugs with how KDE 4 uses X to do 2d [22:50] They are working on it so next time you get a driver update that could go away [22:50] 4.2 did a lot fo work to have a smoother system tray as well [22:50] DaSkreech: i´m totally lost here. :S [22:50] keres: Did you read the page? [22:50] morning [22:51] yes [22:51] keres: where are you lost? [22:51] I am lost by what i should type into terminal [22:52] [Device] [Mount Point] [File System Type] [Options] [Dump] [Pass] [22:52] when is the next kde update ? [22:53] keres, that looks like a 'format' for a fstab file config line.. Not a terminal command [22:54] keres, look at /etc/fstab for examples [22:54] whatś the text editor for kubuntu? [22:54] gedit? [22:54] kedit? [22:54] gedit = G = gnome [22:54] oh [22:54] !editor [22:54] Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code [22:54] O_O [22:54] fale: Wow I love kalzium excpet for one thing :) [22:55] kate [22:55] hi dinx [22:55] HEY DaSkreech [22:55] wesley: there is a new one each month [22:55] eh caps [22:56] keres: kdesu kate /etc/fstab [22:56] DaSkreech: what do i change this line to? [22:56] pastebin it [22:56] yeah [22:56] DaSkreech: except what? [22:56] fale: I can't get new Chemical Structures [22:57] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m5c7b9a76 [22:58] ha ha :) [22:58] what? [22:58] DaSkreech: the service is available... probably someone will start to upload them soon [22:58] keres: can you type sudo fdisk -l into a terminal and pastebin that output ? [22:58] fale: They are there. I can't download them though [22:59] DaSkreech: whats he trying to do ? mount root ? [22:59] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m22ecae00 [22:59] dinx: Mount something else [23:00] keres: trying to mount a NTFS drive? [23:00] Yes [23:00] ah k [23:00] DaSkreech: without formatting [23:00] keres: certainly ;-) [23:00] DaSkreech: than it will be fixed in 4.2b2 ;) [23:00] :) [23:01] fale: Heh don't be sure [23:01] fale: Was it even reported is the first thing to check [23:01] keres: Where would you want it? Or it doesn't matter to you? [23:01] Doesn matter [23:02] keres: sudo mkdir /mnt/WindowsDrive [23:02] Im coming up with many unknow/missing widgets after my upgrade. Expected? [23:02] howdy - can I mount an NTFS partition? If so how? Thanks! [23:02] sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/WindowsDrive [23:02] Pastebin being some. [23:03] bob_: Yes! just mount it :) [23:03] DaSkreech: If so how? :) [23:03] Foodcoman: possibly if they changed out the ones that you have [23:03] bob_: Want a quick mount or something more permanent? [23:03] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m7bb78b1d [23:04] DaSkreech: Permanent would be great - Dolphin shows the physical drive - but won't let me mount for some reason - I think the drive wasn't shut down properly last time it was accessed via Windows (I think that may have something to do with it) [23:04] That can have EVERYTHING to do with it [23:05] When will you be able to defram harddrives in kubuntu? [23:05] * DaSkreech looks up defram [23:05] wesley: You mean windows partitions? [23:06] ha ha [23:06] wonder if i'll have to make some kind of windows live cd first [23:06] bob_, keres: you are in the same boat [23:07] genii and ext3 and go on [23:07] i heard on ext4 there´s going be a deframent tool === Ardarandir1 is now known as Ardarandir [23:07] DaSkreech: any suggestions? [23:07] mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/WindowsDrive -o force ? [23:07] wesley: ext2/3 filesystems do not require defragging, only Windows filesystems do, like ntfs or fat [23:07] genii thats not true [23:07] keres: yeah if you don't have Windows [23:08] On the partition? [23:08] There is no OS on the partitiion, just a bunch of data [23:08] i have read it that in fact a ext3 can be framented also [23:08] wesley: They can be defragged but they don't really require it [23:08] wesley: The amount of fragmentation which occurs on ext2/3 is negligable [23:08] keres: If you don't have WIndows. Windows marked the drive as Dirty so Windows would have to clean it [23:09] you can use the -o force to mount it anyway [23:09] and that would work? [23:09] DaSkreech: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/WindowsDrive -o force? [23:09] Yes [23:09] keres: its not sda1 - how would i figure out which device that physical drive is? [23:09] but you admit linux is lacking a deframent tool? [23:09] mount: only root can do that [23:09] sudo fdisk -l [23:10] wesley, there are ext2/3 defrag gools. [23:10] If I wanted to develop KDE4 based applications is there any particular dependencies that I would need to apt-get ? [23:10] wesley, they are just normally never needed [23:10] keres: i did sudo mount [23:10] i am a linux noob [23:10] dr_willis thats true but what about external ntsf ? [23:10] keres, rember to do 'system type tasks' you must do so as root.. normally with 'sudo' befor a command [23:11] wesley, there are various ntfs tools in some packages. [23:11] RobertLJ: the kde-dev packages? [23:11] Woohoo! it works! [23:11] keres: I know :) [23:11] DaSkreech: Thank you so much [23:11] dr_willis so i can defrag it from within linux ? [23:12] keres: You can set that up to mount eveerytime you boot if you like [23:12] bob_: Followed that? [23:12] DaSkreech: Thanks!!! [23:12] DaSkreech: how? [23:12] wesley, check the ntfs tools packages and see what they have. Ive never done so. THere are ntfs-scan/fix tools may be others. [23:12] RobertLJ: Sure. You may want to hang out in #kde-cafe to learn about KDE development. It's like #kde-devel lite [23:12] keres: did you open kate ? [23:13] Which file? [23:13] !info ntfsprogs [23:13] ntfsprogs (source: linux-ntfs): tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 262 kB, installed size 672 kB [23:14] Decrypt is not same as defrag? [23:14] keres: kdesu kate /etc/fstab [23:14] Daskreech: so it won´t mount on every good? [23:14] DaSkreech: I tried sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windowsdrive -o force - but its not sda1, and i'm not sure which device that hdd actually is [23:14] bob_, sudo fdisk -l, and look to see what ones are what [23:14] keres: What? [23:15] dr_willis: ahh ok [23:15] bob_: sudo fdisk -l [23:15] Argh [23:15] DaSkreech: will the device mount every time i boot up my pc or do i need to edit fstab? [23:15] keres: edit fstab [23:15] sdb1 :) - i think [23:15] how shall i edit it? [23:16] keres: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab [23:16] now we want the UUID so run blkid I think [23:16] !uuid [23:16] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [23:16] sudo blkid [23:16] hmm - how can i pastebin? (sorry) [23:17] failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windowsdrive [23:17] bob_: pastebin.com [23:17] DaSkreech: sudo blkid [23:17] oops [23:17] install the pastebinit command and use that. [23:17] DaSkreech: /dev/sda1: UUID="B2284CC7284C8BF3" LABEL="Storage Disk" TYPE="ntfs" [23:18] my linksys cd setup is not kde friendly... do i really need the thing [23:18] linksys cd setup ? [23:18] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/d445a4d57 [23:18] it is windoz [23:19] keres: copy the line thats in fstab and put it on the second line [23:19] cuznt: I hightly doubt it [23:19] change the long string to the one you just got [23:19] most linksys routers use the web-browser to administer it [23:19] ext3 to ntfs-3g and / (at the end of the long string) to /mnt/WindowsDrive [23:20] DaSkreech: my current string is UUID=976abf5f-93f5-4166-beae-23cf068ea57b / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [23:20] cuznt: no [23:20] you highly doubt what? that i need the cd? [23:20] cuznt: right [23:21] DaSkreech: UUID=976abf5f-93f5-4166-beae-23cf068ea57b / ntfs-3g /mnt/WindowsDrive 0 1 [23:21] is this right? [23:21] DaSkreech: I have ntfs-3g in there [23:21] danks [23:21] oops maybe that was directed to keres [23:21] keres: no [23:21] DaSkreech: change it to what then? [23:22] the 976ab....a57b should be B2284CC7284C8BF3 [23:22] why b2284? [23:22] DaSkreech: B2284CC7284C8BF3 / ntfs-3g /mnt/WindowsDrive 0 1 [23:22] that? [23:23] DaSkreech: did you see this? http://pastebin.com/d445a4d57 [23:23] how to install kde 3.5 next to my 4.1 (kubuntu 8.10) [23:23] not XD [23:23] keres: no [23:23] arrggg [23:24] kde 3.5 is not in 8.10 [23:24] see at the end of the B22 tere is a / ? [23:24] Yes [23:24] bob_: yeah it's sdb1 [23:24] Remove the slash? [23:24] keres: that should be /mnt/WindowsDrive [23:25] DaSkreech: correct, but its failing to mount :( [23:25] put that there and take out the other one [23:25] bob_: What command are you using? [23:25] Time to show us the whole line/command you are using. [23:25] DaSkreech: B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive ntfs-3g 0 1 [23:25] thats incorrect line [23:25] Roland123: You need an external repo [23:25] What should it be then? [23:25] keres: Yay!! [23:25] UUID=############# / ntfs-3g /mnt/WindowsDrive 0 1 [23:25] DaSkreech: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windowsdrive -o force [23:25] Daskreech: did i get it right? [23:26] Oh yeah sorry UUID= [23:26] DaSkreech: where can i find one? [23:26] DaSkreech: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windowsdrive: No such file or directory [23:26] UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive ntfs-3g 0 1 ? [23:26] I mount mine based on LABEL='MyDrive' [23:26] bob_: You don't have that dir :) [23:26] :) [23:26] keres, you want it in /mnt/ or /media/ ? [23:26] bob_: sudo mkdir /mnt/windowsdrive [23:26] then press up and run the mount command again [23:26] dr_willis: whatever works the best [23:26] DaSkreech: nice ok :) [23:26] i don´t care [23:27] /media/ us ubuntu standard. not /mnt/ [23:27] media then [23:27] keres: They both work. Media is for drives that are temporary mnt is for drives that you always expect to be there [23:27] as per FHS [23:27] DaSkreech: i think i found it [23:27] this is a perm mount [23:27] Ubuntu dosent seem to follow that standard however. [23:27] Roland123: Be careful some of them are badly packaged [23:28] They will seriously mess up your system [23:28] then again i got /mnt/ linked to /media/ :) [23:28] DaSkreech: AH HA, I see it! Thanks :) :) [23:28] dr_willis: I do :) [23:28] DaSkreech: I owe you a beer [23:28] bob_: There you go it will disappear on rebot though [23:28] bob_: we will kill him with alcohol poisoning :D [23:28] out of all the beer i owe him [23:29] DaSkreech: whats the perm solution? add it to some kind of startup script? [23:29] DaSkreech: could you pastebin me the correct syntax of what fstab should be? [23:29] DaSkreech: this is my current syntax http://pastebin.com/me96cbc3 [23:30] hello? [23:30] Anyone here? [23:30] yeah? [23:30] No. :) [23:31] very active atm. [23:31] * genii hides [23:31] me neither [23:31] lol [23:31] hi ubunto_ what can i help you with:) i can mount a drive now [23:31] !hi | ubuntu__ [23:31] ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [23:31] Hate to bother anyone, but I'm in sort of a jam. [23:31] * DaSkreech sneaks out all the coffee pots [23:31] (i'd come up witha cooler name, but I just started useing knoversation). [23:31] ubuntu__: thatś the joy of #kubuntu [23:31] DaSkreech: i hope it won''t mess it up.. but if it does... i'll just switch back to gnome prbly [23:32] Problems are the joy? [23:32] DaSkreech: can i private message you? [23:32] more joyful than windows. [23:32] Roland123: What repo are you using? [23:32] I've had absolutely no problems with the 32 bit hardy, on a laptop. [23:32] keres: You are missing something like defaults right after ntfs-3g [23:32] UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive ntfs-3g 0 1 [23:33] 0 1 [23:33] on this desktop (64 bit, if it matters) has been nothing but trouble. [23:33] UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive ntfs-3g 0 1 [23:33] just ntfs-3gdefaults0 1 should be ok [23:33] o [23:33] bob_: run sudo blkid [23:33] DaSkreech: could of answered to you faster.. but got another random gui freeze.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695 [23:34] The packags list eventually got roached, and I'm trying to do a fresh start with 8.10 [23:34] DaSkreech: would not let me save [23:34] Read only. [23:34] heres the problem: whenever I commit changes to the hard drive, the partitioner freezes. [23:34] keres: [23:34] ? [23:34] Umm save in your home directory then [23:35] hi. how do i trust root certificates in kleopatra? i've imported them correctly, but they're listed as "not trusted" and i can't find a way to change that. [23:35] fstab saved to /home/ [23:35] ubuntu__: what are you using? [23:35] hi [23:35] DaSkreech: I ran sudo blkid - you need something from that? [23:35] DaSkreech: any additional paremeters to make kubuntu use /home/fstab? [23:35] keres: backup the one in /etc then sudo mv from home to /etc [23:35] Any insights? Or am I just left out to dry-and go get an old *windows* hard drive and try to boot from that? [23:35] how do i back it up? [23:35] (hope that ticks off some partisans :) [23:35] How is the normal process to see windows shared folders from Kubuntu? [23:36] use the file manager to browse the network.. see the machine/shares... [23:36] your other partitions will look like other hard drives, right? [23:36] keres: cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.orig [23:36] bob_: yes [23:36] so go to 'my computer'. I'd be careful though-it might not like the file system. [23:37] goetz: type smb:/ in konqueror/dolphin [23:37] Anyone have trouble with the installer? [23:37] dr_willis: I have used this way, but the is nothing.. And the are shared folders. I remember in Ubuntu the was a dialog to install some packages. [23:37] ubuntu__: What are you using to parittion ? [23:37] DaSkreech: sudo mv /home/fstab /etc/ [23:37] ? [23:37] The live CD's partition thing. [23:37] keres: you did the backup Then yes [23:38] mv: cannot stat `/home/fstab': No such file or directory [23:38] ubuntu__: on the live cd install Gparted and do it explicitly [23:38] DaSkreech: thanks, the message is: "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall." [23:38] goetz, you need stff installed for windows to see shares on the LINUX box.. but not for linux to see shares on the windows box. [23:38] keres: sudo mv ~/fstab /etc [23:38] dr_willis: techincally you need samba :) [23:39] goetz, ive also noticed lately that sme times gnome and kde file managers dont show allways the windows shares [23:39] I'm running "live" (in memory) right now. So I run "Gparted" and do what? [23:39] DaSkreech, not for linux to see the windows shares from what ive seen. [23:39] DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/d3cdba0b6 [23:39] DaSkreech, since the kde/gnome file managers sort of [23:39] browse the network. [23:39] DaSkreech: it now reads: UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive ntfs-3g defaults 0 1 [23:39] just making sure, that correct? [23:39] If I ever write something useful, it'll be a file maniger without bells and whistles. [23:39] ubuntu__: Edit the hard drive to what you want it to be. You can ask with help on that here as well if yu like [23:40] keres: yes [23:40] ubuntu__, thers dozens of file managers out like that. :) [23:40] DaSkreech: thank you so much [23:40] iou [23:40] My bill is in the post [23:40] bob_: Ok see what keres just wrote ? [23:41] bob_: type alt+F2 -> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab [23:41] Assume I'm a newbie: I enter the host name, my name, etc, and commit to changes. [23:42] after the hard drive's current partition is destroyed, it up and gives up, freezeing the machine 'till I hit power. [23:42] dr_willis: hmm, that is straing. So I have dont have to install anything? But in ubuntu I remember there came a dialok saying to install something for linux and windows networks [23:42] Same problem with both the 8.10 and 8.06 discs. [23:43] DaSkreech: Ahh, I think I get it [23:43] goetz, last i looked. to set up a SHARE on the ubuntu box.. It will ask/install the samba packages.. to just VIEW the shares on a remote box.. it did not need to install anything. [23:44] bob_: you need to change the UUID to the one you have for sdb1 and make sure the caps for /mnt/windowsdrive is the smae as yours [23:44] ook.. [23:44] I have this cousen, he has two machines with vista... he was compareing his shiny vista-running laptop to this decade old one I had with kubuntu... [23:44] ubuntu__: Hmm run it from the command line and see if it spits any errors [23:45] I just laughed and said "do you know how fast that would go if it didn't have one leg behind it's back? [23:45] or something less eloquent to that effect. [23:45] dr_willis: thanks for you help, I will search in the web more to see what could be, maybe a bug.. [23:45] wait, what do I run from the command line? [23:46] goetz, check the /etc/smb.conf - be sure you are in the same workgroups [23:46] "Install kubuntu" [23:46] ? [23:46] * dr_willis missed ubuntu__ 's original question [23:47] Oh, its just that I keep trying to install kubuntu 8.10 or 8.06 on this machine, and whenever I commit changes to the hard drive, it freezes. [23:47] dr_willis: good idea! btw, it is /etc/samba/smb.conf the folder :) [23:47] DaSkreech: do i need anything under defaults? [23:47] /etc/samba/ directory... smb.conf the config file [23:48] sort of a pain considereing that on the first try, it whiped out the other system (grub gives me "error 17" and hangs) [23:48] ubuntu__, is linux going to be the only OS on the thing? [23:48] dr_willis: It is in WORKGROUP but it my case it should be MSHOME I think, thanks, maybe that is the problem [23:48] goetz, Yep.. been there, done that... [23:49] Yeah. It was before-I was useing 8.06, but the package list became cruftier and cruftier. [23:49] 8.06? [23:49] besides devde what app is good for converting a avi to a mpeg [23:49] dr_willis: Is there a GUI to change the workgroup in Kubuntu/KDE? and not with the config file? [23:50] goetz, no idea.. by the time i would look for a gui. I would have th file edited and saved [23:50] I think this kind of thing is reason eneough to just learn perl and hack the #$% together yourself. [23:50] I use tovid to decode and burn video [23:51] !info system-config-samba [23:51] system-config-samba (source: system-config-samba): GUI for managing samba shares and users. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.63-0ubuntu4 (intrepid), package size 568 kB, installed size 5860 kB [23:51] Know what would be funny? An entire distro where everything except the kernel is written in intercal. [23:51] With source & docs included. [23:52] * genii suddenly worries that Hurd is written in intercal! [23:53] With the amount of time it's taken, I sometimes think there is a paper-and-pencil turing machine that they are programing in brainfunk, and thats the glorious free software kernel. [23:53] bob_: defaults :) [23:54] DaSkreech: lol OK [23:54] Was it dumb to try to start fresh with a newer version rather then seeking help for the flakeyness of the old setup? [23:54] DaSkreech: do i put None or leave blank? [23:55] just put the word defaults [23:55] ubuntu__ you may want to try the alternative installer cd.. it almos sounds like a hardware issue with the drive howeer. [23:55] Kubuntu Intrepid boots to kernel panic after upgrade [23:55] I would think so-except it worked just fine the old way. [23:55] DaSkreech: nice - then 0 0 [23:55] sure [23:56] I though it might be shakeing, so I put additionsl screws in. [23:56] *additional [23:56] Kubuntu Intrepid boot to recovery stumbles but doesn't boot. [23:56] DaSkreech: outstanding - guess i'll have to reboot to test [23:56] ubuntu__, check the cables for cut wires/loose connections also.. and dust out the box. :P) while you are at it... [23:56] Fresh install along side boots fine and old sda5 partition mounts. [23:56] 3~ [23:56] I had it open a short while ago to check that kinda thing. Its fine. [23:57] Any wizardry that might heal the boot logic on sda5 [23:57] I had an ide cable with a LITTLE bitty cut.. from a sharp edge on the case.. that cut one wire at the edge... [23:57] took me forever to find that. [23:57] I have an old IDE drive (with a vintage win 98 system on it) that I could fine. [23:57] *find [23:57] This HD, however, has a SATA cable with thick, brightly covered insulation. I checked it. [23:57] bob_: no [23:57] you can do a sudo mount -a [23:58] ubuntu__, so its an ide+sata drives in the box.. Try as a test.. unplugging the ide.? [23:58] I'm wondering about the fundimental idea of kubuntu [23:58] why have special kde programs? Can't we all just write portable programs? [23:58] ubuntu__: Like xclock? [23:58] 'portable programs' have been tried again and again over the years.. and never takes off. [23:59] Which is the normal transfer rate of a home network? With the commun cabels and switch. [23:59] I seem to recall a 'java os' ages ago. [23:59] Firefox. [23:59] Amarok. [23:59] Openoffice [23:59] for most of those - it boils down to what 'widget set/libs' the programer perfers