[00:00] <yanko> ???
[00:01] <benbloom> I don't think windows know's how to deal with the linux file system. are you using a partition editor in windows?
[00:03] <yanko> no
[00:03] <yanko> i made the partion while instaling vista
[00:04] <wers> i press alt+f2 then the run dialog doesnt run. i checked in system settings and it still is the keyboard shortcut. any idea?
[00:05] <dios_mio> root, hi
[00:05] <dios_mio> root, very creative nick lol
[00:18] <benbloom> I think the problem has to do with how windows mounts filesystems. I'd recommend using a partition editor to remove the partition. I have no experience with vista, dual boot and very little with windows in general but from what I do know that's what I'd think. you want to wipe the partition clean and possible format it for use by vista yes?
[00:21] <yosri> #tanit
[00:29] <majoney> me he instalado el ultimo kubuntu , el 8.10, quiero instalar beryl, alguien me podria ayudar???
[00:31] <benbloom> !es |  majoney
[00:32] <benbloom> !br | majoney
[00:32] <benbloom> not sure which
[00:35] <chipbuddy> is anyone familar with "the dullest blog in the world"?
[00:40] <benbloom> guess not
[00:41] <chipbuddy> i know pretty much nothing about web design and html (and css and xhtml...). is there a simple open source program i can install that will generate all the html (or xhtml or css) for me? preferably heavy on the gui. i do'nt need anything fancy, just pictures, links and text, but i want it to look good
[00:49] <erov> chipbuddy: kompozer ?
[00:50] <chipbuddy> i'll give it a shot. thanks erov
[00:56] <dnyy> I just installed the kubuntu-desktop package and after I logged in my monitor blinks every 15 or so seconds.  Could this be because my computer can't handle KDE or what? :/
[00:58] <Dr_willis> kde shouldent affect the monitor/X settings..
[00:58] <Dr_willis> it maybe the compositing effects.. try logging in with a different window manager and see if it still happens
[00:58] <dnyy> it wasn't blinking in xfce or gnome :/
[00:59] <dnyy> even when i have compiz enabled in gnome it doesn't blink, it goes horribly slow but no monitor blinkin'
[01:05] <dnyy> I disabled all desktop effects, and it's still happening ;o
[01:06] <m4v> dnyy: i belive desde is a bug report about that, letme check
[01:07] <m4v> s/desde/there/
[01:07] <dnyy> wut? ;x
[01:09] <m4v> that there's a bug report similar to your problem
[01:09] <m4v> dnyy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/278471
[01:09] <m4v> check the comments, maybe there's one that can help
[01:09] <dnyy> ah, i was confused as to waht desde meant. but i looked it up
[01:10] <m4v> it was a typo
[01:10] <m4v> i meant there
[01:10] <dnyy> hah, well it translates to 'since' in spanish.
[01:16] <dnyy> Alright, stopping "Detecting RANDR" worked.  Thanks for the link, a google search never brought it up.
[01:18] <b0nn> has anyone ever had text decide it is being entered right to left, instead of left to right in Kate?
[01:18] <snarkster> where do you find the google gadgets for kde?
[01:18] <b0nn> if so, how do I 'undo' this feature?
[01:21] <dr_willis> Thats some sort of input feature for some languages.. and ive no idea where the settings are at
[01:23] <b0nn> miraculously it undid itself
[01:23] <b0nn> thanksfully
[01:24] <brahman> #kubuntu-es
[01:41] <smkajt> hi, i'm having doubts about installing guitar tuner need help
[01:42]  * dr_willis thinks the channel would need more info smkajt 
[01:42] <smkajt> ok, i'll try a couple times more
[01:47] <beta-guy> At random intervals my laptop's caps lock light with start flashing, and when it does this my computer is completely unresponsive, it just shows a black screen, what's happening, and what should I do?
[01:53] <BluesKaj> beta-guy, maybe X is crashing ...you may need to edit xorg.conf
[01:55] <demonwolf> salut tous le monde
[01:55] <arun__> i added the kde 4.2 nightly repository and installed kde-nightly pacakge. my screen locks every once in a while and my password doesnt seem to work there. I have to ctrl alt backspace to get out
[01:55] <arun__> any ideas as to how to set my lock screen password in kde 4.2
[01:57] <dr_willis> sounds like a bug....
[01:57] <beta-guy> BluesKaj: over in #ubuntu they think it could be a kernel panic
[01:57] <dr_willis> kaps lock flashing = VERY bad crash sign
[01:58] <BluesKaj> tv time ..bbl
[01:59] <beta-guy> dr_willis: I'll try to keep my laptop running cool, and see if that resolves the issue, do you know of a way to narrow down the cause of the crash?
[01:59] <dr_willis> beta-guy,  not really..    If it only does it evey so often. it would sound like a heat issue
[02:00] <beta-guy> ok
[02:16] <arun__> why is the kde 4.2 lock screen password different from the user password, how do i change it
[02:16] <smkajt> i'm not able to install a guitar tuner, can some one help ?
[03:09] <solidus> hola
[03:13] <linuxman410> anyone else tried ubuntu 9.04 beta yet
[03:14] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for further discussion please linuxman410
[03:14] <linuxman410> thanks
[03:20] <laulyp> hello
[03:20] <araghorn> on Intrepid Ibex, is the nvidia 71 driver is working now ?
[03:25] <araghorn> is there somebody alive here ?
[03:28] <JontheEchidna> araghorn: the 71 driver isn't working
[03:29] <araghorn> JontheEchidna-thanx
[03:30] <araghorn> Does someone know when it's gonna be fixed ?
[03:30] <JontheEchidna> only the nvidia developers
[03:34] <mirko_> ciao
[03:34] <araghorn> just what i thought...
[03:34] <mirko_> qualcuno parla italiano come me?
[03:34] <mister-tea> !it
[03:34] <mirko_> grazie
[03:34] <mirko_> thanks
[03:42] <m__> need help configureing mod-mono
[03:42] <m__> require graphical tool
[03:43] <m__> anyone knows about how to use rapache
[03:47] <smkajt> is there a good codec packs for video files? .avi and so on?
[03:47] <araghorn> How would i know when the Nvidia 71 driver will be fixed on Intrepid Ibex ?
[03:49] <bazhang> kubuntu-restricted-extras smkajt
[03:49] <bazhang> araghorn, when nvidia fixes it?
[03:50] <smkajt> where cand i find kubuntu-restricted-extras bazhang?
[03:51] <bazhang> smkajt, which version of kubuntu
[03:52] <smkajt> bazhang: can't tell wich version
[03:53] <bazhang> !version | smkajt
[03:53] <smkajt> ubuntu 7.04
[03:54] <bazhang> smkajt, that version is end of life; were you planning on upgrading to a newer version?
[03:55] <smkajt> guess not
[03:55] <smkajt> i was planning to install video files codec
[03:55] <smkajt> to watch movies
[03:56] <bazhang> end of life means that version is not supported any more
[03:56] <bazhang> !feisty
[03:56] <smkajt> what should i do dude ?
[03:56] <bazhang> smkajt, how old an install
[03:58] <smkajt> bazhang: installed this month
[03:58] <bazhang> smkajt, best to try the livecd of LTS hardy imo
[03:59] <bazhang> thats supported til 2011
[03:59] <bazhang> lts=long term support
[04:02] <araghorn> bazhang -> Is the only way to know when it's gonna be fixed is to read some forum, or I can subscribe to something that will tell me when ?
[04:02] <bazhang> araghorn, iirc nvidia has a blog
[04:02] <araghorn> baxhang -> thanx
[04:09] <araghorn> baxhang -> is that the blog: http://blogs.nvidia.com/
[04:13] <bazhang> araghorn, sounds right
[04:16] <araghorn> bazhang -> Last question (since I'm a newbie): what was the 71.71.86.9 for if it was not for Intrepix Ibex ?
[04:17] <bazhang> araghorn, not sure there sorry
[04:17] <araghorn> bazhang -> ok, thank you
[04:26] <draik> I have an ogg file that I want to play when I get a PM and when someone says my nick. It was working, but now it does not. I played the ogg file outside of Konversation and it works. The file is not corrupt. What do I have to do for Konversation to play the audio file?
[04:35] <joeinbend> hey all
[04:35] <joeinbend> Has anyone successfully gotten the pen drivers working on a Compaq TC1000 tablet?
[04:44] <rayne> Hello everyone.
[04:47] <rayne> How's everyone doing?
[05:03] <_2> var/log/messages...    kernel: Loaded 23281 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.15-53-686.   ?
[05:04] <_2> var/log/mseeages...    kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
[05:05] <_2> is that normal ?
[05:05] <_2> i'm not noticing anything malfunctioning... but the message seems strange
[05:09] <glade88> hello.. my installation is really screwed up. I had a Kubuntu Intrepid Beta disk, I install Kubuntu and added the KDE 4.2 beta 1 PPA repos. After downloading the updates, I now have broken dependencies and I get this: http://pastebin.com/m3d0fa1c9
[05:15] <_2> more info on my question, http://pastebin.com/fcdc87e9 /var/log/messages
[05:15] <CuteAlien> hello. Has anyone a hint for me for getting sound running in java in kubuntu? I'm just trying to get the official javaounddemo from sun running. java -version: "1.6.0_10"
[05:15] <CuteAlien> *javasounddemo
[05:20] <_2> well never mind i just did  rm /boot/*   and that should at the very least stop that inconsistancy in my message log.
[05:20] <_2> i'll reboot and test it.
[05:25] <_2> well it did and it didn't     i still get the "Dec  7 23:23:18 192 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled"
[05:35] <oscc2007> :)
[05:37] <CuteAlien> oh - I have java-sound - only the jukebox in the sounddemo fails.
[05:59] <zigggggy> klobster!
[06:48] <smkajt> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[06:49] <smkajt> this error returned twice, when i tryed to install softw, when typing ./configure
[06:49] <smkajt> is there someone still awake
[06:49] <_2> prolly
[07:00] <Guest44997> whats up with gimp on kubuntu? the layers dialog dont work - whats the point of using it then?
[07:36] <pronoy> how do i install firefox on kubuntu 8.10
[07:37] <_2> sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:37] <pronoy> _2: isn't there a bug ? says it might need to install some gnome libs
[07:38] <_2> pronoy gnome libs wont hurt
[07:38] <_2> much.
[07:38] <alex__> hi
[07:39] <alex__> anybody knows how i install beryl on ubuntu linux?
[07:39] <_2> !beryl
[07:41] <alex__> thx
[07:41] <alex__> i ll try to figure compiz fusion out
[07:42] <_2> alex__ btw what version of ubuntu and kde are you talking ?
[07:42] <alex__> ubuntu 8.10
[07:42] <alex__> i ve downloaded a version of kde but know i m running gnome
[07:43] <_2> hummm and you don't like the kde4 effects ?
[07:43] <alex__> it makes the laptop a little slower than gnome
[07:43] <alex__> the main reason i would like to try beryl
[07:43] <_2> well the 'gnome' channel is #ubuntu
[07:43] <alex__> is curiosity as well:p
[07:44] <_2> maybe someone in there can support it.
[07:44] <alex__> thx
[07:44] <_2> welcome
[07:46] <pronoy_> _2: isn't there a bug ? says it might need to install some gnome libs
[07:47] <pronoy_> _2: and i want some help regarding xine too.........how do i play rmvb on kubuntu ?
[07:47] <_2> pronoy_ not that i know of,  but i don't know all things.
[07:47] <pronoy_> okk
[07:48] <pronoy_> which is better dragon player or kaffine ?
[07:49] <_2> which is better kia or toyota
[07:49] <_2> it's personal preferance
[07:49] <pronoy_> _2: i don't know about kia..but toyota is good :D
[07:49] <pronoy_> _2: i need a player which plays everything so which one is the best ?
[07:50] <_2> vlc
[07:54] <pronoy_> _2: ok one more thing...i migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu.........the add/remove programs.....how do i see the 3rd party applications.........just like in gnome
[07:55] <_2> pronoy_ ummm use synaptic if you have it installed still.    or adept if you don't.
[07:56] <pronoy_> ya but does synaptic cater to kde as well ?\
[08:04] <mdriess> hello?
[08:10] <pronoy_> _2: how do i uninstall konqueror ?
[08:11] <macjason0607> guys
[08:11] <macjason0607> can i convert a avi to a mpeg ?deved only coverts to a iso
[08:11] <macjason0607> deved*
[08:15] <_2> pronoy_ are you sure you want to?  you can make firefox the default browser you know
[08:16] <pronoy_> _2: If i remove konqueror...what harm will it cause ?
[08:16] <macjason0607> anyone ever used nerolinux ?
[08:16] <_2> pronoy_ sudo apt-get remove konqueror  # and read the list of packages it will take with it.
[08:18] <pronoy_> just 3 packages konqueror konqueror-plugin-searchbar kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts
[08:18] <_2> ok then remove it if you like
[08:18] <pronoy_> _2: i hope kde will work after i uninstall konqueror ? or is it also a file browser ?
[08:18] <_2> seems the deps will reslove to delphin
[08:19] <_2> pronoy_ yes it is a file manager
[08:19] <_2> and an ssh client  and a man page browser....
[08:19] <_2> konqueror is da'bomb
[08:20] <_2> it's a trade of all jacks and a jack of all trades
[08:20] <pronoy_> _2: so i guess i shouldn't remove it after all
[08:21] <_2> it's up to you.
[08:21] <_2> pronoy_ it's your software, use it like you like.   we're just here to halp.
[08:21] <pronoy_> _2: yes but i think i'll blow my system to bits........that'll be a lot of help :D
[08:22] <macjason0607> ok anohter question .. i don't want dolphin anymore in kubuntu .. if i remove it can i just install nautilus ?
[08:22] <_2> pronoy_ if it can be broken, i've probably already broke it.   ;/
[08:23] <_2> macjason0607 why not use knoqueror ?
[08:23] <macjason0607> _2, i just want a file manager that is stable
[08:23] <_2> macjason0607 konq not stable ?
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[08:24] <macjason0607> never used it
[08:24] <macjason0607> so guess what
[08:24] <macjason0607> Konqueror  just crashed .. do you guys want to look at logs ?
[08:24] <pronoy_> macjason0607: i used nautilus......its unstable more unstable than konqueror and dolphin
[08:25] <macjason0607> hmm.
[08:25]  * _2 suspects vidio driver issues, but quietly sneeks out
[08:26] <macjason0607> pronoy_, when i was running ubuntu i had nautiuls and it was fine if i recall
[08:26] <macjason0607> whats the paste bin here ?
[08:26] <_2> !pastebin
[08:27] <pronoy_> whenever i played a media file in ubuntu.......nautilus crashed.......thats one of the reasons for shifting to kde 4.1
[08:27] <macjason0607> check it http://paste.ubuntu.com/82357/
[08:28] <_2>  http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[08:30] <macjason0607> can i have 2 file managers running at the same time ?
[08:30] <_2> yes
[08:32] <_2> on dapper i have tested with as many as five file manager/browsers at one time and multi-sessions of each of them.
[08:32] <_2> but dapper is stable.
[08:32] <_2> when you use bleeding edge, some times.... it bleeds
[08:33] <_2> !worksforme
[08:33] <macjason0607> yea
[08:34] <macjason0607> im using interpid kubuntu
[08:34] <macjason0607> it keeps crashing on me
[08:34] <macjason0607> so .. right now im dual booting xp and kubuntu on this desktop computer .. im giving it a shot right now because im getting a laptop at the end of this month
[08:34] <macjason0607> the laptop has beautiful specs
[08:35] <macjason0607> 2.4ghz Intel core 2 duo 4 gb ram DVD+RW etc  ...
[08:35] <macjason0607> i forgot the brand but i saw it at sams club
[08:35] <macjason0607> :D
[08:36] <macjason0607> and it is strech screen
[08:36] <pronoy_> _2: like ntfs configuration tool on gnome what tool is available on kde ?
[08:36] <_2> !ntfs
[08:37] <_2> pronoy_ probably better off to ask that as a general question rather than addressing me with it.   i really don't know.
[08:37] <pronoy_> !NTFS-3g
[08:38] <pronoy_> _2: gotcha........thanks for the support till now
[08:38] <_2> even though they are quiet there are a few others lurking even at this hour.
[08:38] <pronoy_> !FUSE
[08:39] <_2> the ops tend to just check this channel every so often and if there are "unanswered" questions lying around they will pick them up "usually."
[08:48] <FisherPrice> is the upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 worth it?
[08:56] <nick_> ?<
[09:00] <nick_> what the hell
[09:01] <j3frea> do you want help?
[09:01] <nick_> i dont know whats going on
[09:02] <_2> !welcome
[09:02] <nick_> hello?
[09:03] <nick_> so is this like a support thing? or something diffrent
[09:03] <Mamarok> nick_: could you ask a plain question? We would like to help but you should be more explicit on your problem :)
[09:06] <j3frea> nick_: if you have a question, just ask it... if someone awake can answer or try to answer s/he will...
[09:06] <nick_> sorry, i am new. my other computer is running ubuntu 8.10, and the terminal screen went blank.
[09:07] <Mamarok> did you type Ctrl + l?
[09:07] <nick_> as well as there are no borders or buttons to exit a window
[09:07] <j3frea> do you have compiz?
[09:07] <Mamarok> nick_: do you talk about Gnome or KDE?
[09:07] <nick_> gnome and yes compiz
[09:07] <nick_> ive tried removeing
[09:08] <nick_> but useless
[09:08] <j3frea> nick_: this i the kubuntu channel just by the way... I don't know whether other people will get annoyed but I'll try to help...
[09:08] <j3frea> when compiz crashes, that's what happens
[09:08] <j3frea> try running "metacity --replace"
[09:08] <nick_> well some apps like this one is also blank. so i am unable to read back
[09:09] <j3frea> open  a new console and type ﻿"metacity --replace"
[09:09] <j3frea> that will make metacity draw your windows instead of compiz
[09:10] <nick_> sorry.. logging in again
[09:10] <j3frea> that could also work...
[09:11] <nick_> well thats been done.. also reinstalling the os
[09:11] <j3frea> what's been done?
[09:11] <j3frea> are you reinstalling right now?
[09:12] <nick_> no no, just had a bad error with xubuntu.. and had to switch
[09:13] <j3frea> could you explain your problem more comprehensively please
[09:14] <nick_> when i open the console, it is a blank white screen. so are areas where notifications should be
[09:14] <j3frea> in what window manager? and does that problem only happen to console?
[09:15] <nick_> also the titlebar for any window has no buttons to close the window.
[09:15] <nick_> balloon notifications thet pop up are also blank
[09:16] <j3frea> does anyone know of some sort of all powerful hotkey editor for kde4 ? I've got nice media keys on my dell inspiron 1525 laptop and they aren't very pro working at the moment...
[09:16] <j3frea> to the point that I'm considering kde3.5 again... argh
[09:17] <j3frea> nick_: you didn't answer my last two questions... Also, "is compiz running?" is my third question now
[09:18] <nick_> yes compiz was running
[09:18] <nick_> but i have removed it
[09:19] <j3frea> and what window manager are you in? Does it happen in all window managers? does it happen only to console and balloon tips?
[09:20] <nick_> the window manager is in the one that is provided with the install i am not sure, i am new
[09:20] <nick_> it seems it happens with pop up boxs
[09:21] <nick_> boxes*
[09:21] <j3frea> okay, you said you were using xubuntu... But you also said you are using ubuntu... Which version are you using?
[09:21] <Ayabara> I don't have the msn protocol in kopete in kde 4.2b1. Is this a bug?
[09:22] <Salze_> Hi. My global keys (like Alt-F2, Ctrl-F12) do not work since updating to KDE 4.2 beta 1. Is that a known issue?
[09:22] <nick_> i was running ubuntu, then switch to xubuntu, then back to ubuntu.
[09:22] <j3frea> Salze_: my hotkeys didn't work since I moved to kde4
[09:22] <j3frea> nick_: okay, then you're using gnome...
[09:22] <Salze_> Up to 4.1.3 they worked.
[09:22] <j3frea> nick_: you should probably move to the #ubuntu channel
[09:23] <j3frea> Salze_ what keyboard do you have?
[09:23] <j3frea> I'm intrigued because I really want my media keys working...
[09:24] <Salze_> I've got a notebook, Thinkpad X40.
[09:25] <j3frea> and did you keys work out of the box?
[09:25] <j3frea> I've got a dell inspiron 1525
[09:31] <proteusguy> File Sharing KDE Control Module reports "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed." Thought I had installed them. Anyone know the specific packages required? This is on Intrepid.
[09:31] <proteusguy> I'm trying to do an SMB share of my local Documents directory btw...
[09:33] <portal> hello everybody
[09:34] <portal> ok, i have just installed the new ubuntu, but again there's no wireless net working... help!
[09:35] <EyesKiller> Hi, could anyone of you tell me what is update-apt-xapi?
[09:35] <EyesKiller> Could it be a Update-Notify (in left bottom corner)?
[09:38] <portal> help anyone!!!???
[09:38] <Mamarok> portal: patience!
[09:38] <portal> ok :)
[09:38] <Mamarok> portal: you talk about Gnome or KDE?
[09:39] <Mamarok> Kubuntu?
[09:39] <portal> umm i don't know
[09:39] <portal> ubuntu
[09:39] <Mamarok> so you should ask in #ubuntu
[09:39] <portal> ok thanks
[09:41] <Baier> hi i'm noob can sb help me on priv? maybe sb from poland or english speaking?
[09:43] <Mamarok> Baier: ask your question
[09:43] <unix> how can i backup my desktop settings , wallpapers ,themes so that i can restore them after a fresh install?
[09:43] <Mamarok> unix: save your .kde/
[09:43] <unix> save it in removable media?
[09:44] <Mamarok> unix: well, anywhere you want, but not in a partition you are going to nuke :)
[09:44] <Guest55404> #ubuntu-it
[09:44] <unix> where is the .kde/
[09:44] <Baier> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:44] <Baier> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[09:44] <unix> i cant find it..
[09:44] <Mamarok> in your home
[09:45] <unix> is it hidden>
[09:45] <unix> ?
[09:45] <Baier> i got sth like that and when i write it in terminal it says that i have to be administrator
[09:45] <Mamarok> unix: in your file manager, activate Hidden files in the View menu
[09:45] <Mamarok> Baier: you must run sudo apt-get
[09:45] <Mamarok> to be admin
[09:46] <Baier> how to run it?
[09:46] <Mamarok> Baier: run sudo dpkg --comfigure -a in Konsole
[09:47] <unix> i cant find it mamarok
[09:47] <Mamarok> unix: type alt+ F2, then type konsol in the window that appears in the middle of your screen
[09:47] <Mamarok> *konsole even
[09:48] <unix> i did
[09:48] <unix> should i open konsole
[09:48] <unix> ?
[09:49] <unix> i can find only two things in /home
[09:49] <Mamarok> unix: well, yes :)
[09:49] <Mamarok> then type the exact line I gave you
[09:49] <unix> one is unix(my user name) and .directory
[09:49] <Mamarok> unix: it will ask your user password, type that in
[09:50] <unix> i did
[09:50] <Mamarok> unix: that /home, i was talking to somebody else
[09:50] <Mamarok> unix: and?
[09:50] <unix> .directory
[09:51] <Mamarok> unix: sorry, I was mixin up people :)
[09:51] <unix> lol
[09:51] <unix> ok
[09:51] <Mamarok> unix: nope, no need to open a konsole
[09:51] <unix> i repeat
[09:51] <Mamarok> unix: you are in  your file manager?
[09:51] <unix> yes
[09:51] <Mamarok> unix: open the view menu and activate the hidden files
[09:51] <unix> i did
[09:52] <unix> im in /home now
[09:52] <Mamarok> so you will now see a lot of folders beginning with a dot
[09:52] <unix> there is ony one hidden file
[09:52] <unix> .directory
[09:52] <Mamarok> which is?
[09:52] <unix> .directory
[09:52] <Mamarok> hm, strange, you sure you are in your home?
[09:52] <unix> yes /home
[09:52] <Mamarok> /home/unix?
[09:53] <unix> no
[09:53] <unix> jus /home
[09:53] <Mamarok> you must be in *your* home directory!
[09:53] <unix> okok
[09:53] <Mamarok> activate the hidden files
[09:53] <unix> yes now i see .kder
[09:53] <unix> yes now i see .kde
[09:54] <Mamarok> ok, that's the folder you must save in order to have all your configurations saved
[09:55] <Mamarok> Baier: did I solve your problem? Sorry I mixed yu up with someone else :/
[09:57] <Mamarok> Baier: you need to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:57] <Mamarok> without sudo it can't wokr
[09:57] <Mamarok> *work
[09:57] <Baier> ok i try
[09:58] <Baier> sth is hapening :)
[09:58] <Mamarok> Baier: good :)
[09:59] <Mamarok> Baier: all admin tasks, like installing or updating files, have to be done with sudo, else it doesn't work
[09:59] <Baier> it my first day with linux :)
[09:59] <Mamarok> unix: no query please
[10:00] <Mamarok> Baier: nice :)
[10:00] <unix> how to back up all the softwares running to restore after fresh install
[10:00] <unix> ?
[10:00] <unix> or do i need to install them again?
[10:00] <Mamarok> Baier: you should read the docs that come with the installation
[10:00] <Mamarok> unix: no, if you use a backup tool, it can also restore
[10:00] <portal> where was that ubuntu chat again ^^''??
[10:01] <Mamarok> unix: else, if you just copy the folder, you can simply copy it back to *your* new home
[10:01] <Mamarok> portal: #ubuntu
[10:01] <portal> thanks
[10:01] <unix> u mean entire home directory?
[10:01] <Mamarok> unix: no, I think you only need to backup the .kde folder
[10:01] <Mamarok> unix: the basic apps install dirung the installation
[10:02] <Mamarok> unix: why do you want do reinstall btw?
[10:02] <Baier> i read them, and there is nothing about my problem, because i have problem with synaptic, it tels me that i have to configure it manualy write "dpkg --configure -a" and no idea what next?
[10:02] <unix> i want to remove vista...
[10:02] <unix> and want linux running in MBR
[10:02] <Mamarok> Baier: what do you want to do, update your installation?
[10:03] <Mamarok> unix: do you have a dual boot installation now?
[10:03] <unix> yea
[10:03] <Mamarok> unix: you can simply remove the Vista partition, no need to reinstall Linux
[10:03] <Baier> when i run synaptic there goes an mistake, and writes"E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:03] <Baier> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[10:04] <unix> but i also need to resize the parttion
[10:04] <Mamarok> unix: make sure to mackup your personal things from Vista first though!
[10:04] <Mamarok> unix: there is a partition tool called qparted you can use for that
[10:04] <Mamarok> unix: read the man page first and be sure you do it right before starting
[10:04] <unix> ok
[10:04] <Mamarok> unix: you must know exactly which partition you are going to delete
[10:04] <unix> man qparted??
[10:05] <unix> from sda1 to sd4
[10:05] <unix> kubuntu is running on sda5
[10:05] <Mamarok> unix: you might have to install the tool first
[10:05] <Mamarok> Baier: that's what you just did, no?
[10:06] <Baier> yea, and i'm in that and what next?
[10:06] <Mamarok> Baier: that should do it if you didn't get errors at the end of the dpkg run
[10:07] <unix> can i run the live cd and use qparted?
[10:07] <Mamarok> unix: I mistyped, its qtparted
[10:07] <unix> ok
[10:07] <Mamarok> unix: you can run it from konsole
[10:07] <unix> ok
[10:07] <unix> can i run the live cd and use qtparted?
[10:07] <unix> ok
[10:07] <Baier> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place thats the last line no errors:)
[10:08] <Mamarok> Baier: so it's done, your system should be up to date
[10:09] <Mamarok> Baier: you might run synaptic again now, just to be sure
[10:09] <Baier> doest'work:(
[10:10] <Baier> one not working "pakiet"
[10:11] <Mamarok> Baier: sometimes there are packages wich lak some dependencies, it will be updated once these are available
[10:11] <Mamarok> *lack
[10:11] <Baier> yea but untill then i can't instal nothing?
[10:12] <Baier> error:broukenCount>0
[10:12] <Mamarok> Baier: of course you can, just remove the broken one first
[10:13] <lokai> When I set the number of virtual desktops in 'Configure Desktop' and save it/close system settings, it has no effect on the number of desktops. What's wrong?
[10:13] <lokai> It reverts back
[10:14] <Baier> sun java is not working, delete or delete completly?
[10:15] <Mamarok> just remove
[10:15] <Mamarok> Baier: did you try to reinstall this package first?
[10:15] <Baier> no:) just removed it :P
[10:17] <Mamarok> Baier: just update your package list and see if theer are updates
[10:17] <Mamarok> *there
[10:18] <Baier> kk thx you're great
[10:19] <asfa> i try to run system-cleaner, but get system-cleaner: command not found has it changed
[10:20] <Mamarok> Baier: thx :)
[10:20] <noaXess> hi all
[10:20] <noaXess> where can i see which graficdriver is loaded? u have a nvidia card..
[10:20] <noaXess> i have ^ :)
[10:20] <Mamarok> asfa: what package is that?
[10:21] <asfa> system-cleaner - not sure if it changed to cruft
[10:21] <asfa> removes cruft after upgrade
[10:22] <asfa> or removed as it no longer works apparemtly?
[10:22] <Mamarok> asfa: sorry, no idea what you are talking about :)
[10:22] <Baier> I updated the java package doesn't work still
[10:23] <Mamarok> Baier: what do you mean by "doesn't work"?
[10:23] <Baier> still the same error
[10:23] <Baier> and that it s corupted
[10:23] <Mamarok> ok, then remove the package
[10:24] <Mamarok> Baier: still quite strange, it works for me here, what version of Kubuntu do you run?
[10:33] <xxtjaxx> Hey guys
[10:37] <lawi> Hi guys - just deleted my /usr/local folder by mistake. Am using Kubuntu 8.04. Any way I can repair - without having to reinstall the whole system?
[10:37] <Mamarok> lawi: unlikely, but why the hell do you delete things as sudo?
[10:38] <xxtjaxx> lawi nope
[10:38] <xxtjaxx> lawi dumb idea really really dumb uidea
[10:39] <lawi> I knw its dumb. Was deleting some files in the folder and hit enter by mistake. I should have aliased rm -i
[10:40] <xxtjaxx> lawi better reinstall it
[10:40] <lawi> Ok, I guess then I have to reinstall. Am actually still using the system so I have managed to make copies of config files
[10:40] <Mamarok> lawi: and next time just use apt-get remove and purge to remove things
[10:41] <Mamarok> no need to fiddle in /usr/* deleting things
[10:41] <lawi> What can I say? I have learnt my lesson :)
[10:43] <lawi> #ubuntu
[10:57] <The_ManU_212> hi
[10:57] <The_ManU_212> is this bad? http://pastebin.com/m5845dc2
[10:57] <The_ManU_212> why is the summary wrong and something ahs to be recovered?
[10:59] <Mamarok> The_ManU_212: I fear you might have harddisk problems, you run a desktop or a laptop?
[10:59] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: desktop
[11:00] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: smartmontools is installed and warning in bios enabled
[11:00] <Mamarok> try running fsck again from console
[11:01] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: how?
[11:02] <Mamarok> hm, not a good idea on a mounted system, do you have a live CD?
[11:04] <Baier> how to chech in ubuntu what graphis card I have?
[11:04] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: yes
[11:04] <The_ManU_212> Baier: lspci
[11:04] <xxtjaxx> Mamarok girl ur much tooo fast for me
[11:05] <Mamarok> Mamarok: you should run fsck with a live CD
[11:05] <The_ManU_212> Baier: dmesg | grep ati or dmesg | grep nvidia  to see which one you have
[11:05] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: ok, but how?
[11:06] <Mamarok> start up your system with a live CD, there you can use the system tools from the command line
[11:08] <Mamarok> The_ManU_212: you have smartmontools installed, but does the smartd run?
[11:09] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: no, cause i heard it can shorten the live of harddiskdrives, i have it in bios enabled and ran a samrtctl -H /dev/sdx
[11:09] <Mamarok> and what did it say?
[11:13] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: passed
[11:13] <chinaski2> Hello! In my Kubuntu 8.04 in printer manager option "Network printer SMB (Windows)" is inactive. SMB-client and server are installed. Does anybody know how to resolve problem?
[11:13] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: why do you think i have hard disk problems?
[11:14] <cuznt> !smb
[11:14] <cuznt> !network printing
[11:14] <Mamarok> because of the pastebin you sent, if fsck aborts itself on startup I'd check disk health
[11:14] <cuznt> p00r bot
[11:15] <Mamarok> The_ManU_212: seems ok then if passed and yu get "SMART Health Status: OK
[11:16] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: only that:
[11:16] <The_ManU_212> [11:16] <The_ManU_212> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[11:16] <proteusguy> File Sharing KDE Control Module reports "SMB and NFS servers are not installed on this machine, to enable this module the servers must be installed." Thought I had installed them. Anyone know the specific packages required? This is on Intrepid.
[11:16] <proteusguy> I'm trying to do an SMB share of my local Documents directory btw...
[11:16] <The_ManU_212> never got that OK you menation
[11:17] <Mamarok> The_ManU_212: depends on the disk type I guess, mine sends me an OK
[11:17] <The_ManU_212> Mamarok: Maxtor and Samsung
[11:18] <Mamarok> IBM here
[11:32] <Salze_> Hi. My global keys (like Alt-F2, Ctrl-F12) do not work since updating to KDE 4.2 beta 1. Is that a known issue?
[11:34] <Mamarok> Salze_: works for me, so something must have gone wrong
[11:34] <Mamarok> Salze_: did you start with a new .kde/ ?
[11:41] <Salze_> Mamarok: No, I didn't. Thank you for your replay. In the system settings...can you open the sub-page for the global shortcuts and view/change the keybindings for the various modules?
[11:42] <Mamarok> Salze_: why should I change my settings? It runs fine for me :)
[11:43] <Mamarok> Salze_: you should start with a new .kde/, just move your old one to .kde_old/ once you're logged out
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:45] <Mamarok> hi ActionParsnip :)
[11:54] <gonzo_> hola algun español???
[11:54] <Salze_> Mamarok: I just wanted to know whether you are able to do so. Because on my system this setting doesn't even load. A new .kde doesn't help.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !es | gonzo_
[11:54] <gonzo_> spanish???
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> gonzo_: this is english, #kubuntu-es is for spanish
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> gonzo_: or you communicte in english
[11:59] <Mamarok> Salze_: it does for me
[12:00] <Mamarok> Salze_: you sure your upgrade ran correctly
[12:00] <Mamarok> ?
[12:00] <Salze_> Mamarok: No, I'm not.
[12:01] <Salze_> What package do the global shortcuts belong to?
[12:01] <Mamarok> Salze_: check your sources list first
[12:01] <Mamarok> and add universe to the experimental repo
[12:02] <Mamarok> I bet you are missing some apps
[12:04] <lawi> anyone installed mysql5 from source? I keep getting the error "FATAL ERROR: Could not find /fill_help_tables.sql"
[12:05] <Salze_> Done - but no new packages.
[12:05] <gustavonarea> Hi.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> lawi: try not to ask in both rooms
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> lawi: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,200909,200937#msg-200937
[12:07] <gustavonarea> I'm considering giving a hand to test KDE 4.2 Beta1, but I'd like to know what blocker/annoying bugs I would encounter (if any). Also, what plasmoids are broken? I've already checked http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 and http://kde.org/info/4.1.80.php and it seems like the *only* problem is that the MSN is not supported in Kopete. Is this right?
[12:07] <gustavonarea> Thanks in advance
[12:12] <Mamarok> Salze_: your permissions set correctly?
[12:13] <Salze_> Which permissions?
[12:19] <gaelan> hello - is there an NFS GUI in the Systems Settings? I see one for Samba... am i missing something?
[12:19] <gaelan> i'm using kubuntu 8.10
[12:21] <Salze_> Running "kcmshell keys" gives: "kcmshell(10846) GlobalShortcutsModule::load: allComponents() failed!"
[12:24] <Mamarok> afk
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Salze_: does it work with sudo?
[12:26] <amerigo> Heilà.... goodmorning
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> lo amerigo
[12:28] <amerigo> I have Hardy 8.04 and I got a problem ... when shoutdown PC, after reboot eth0 whas misconfigurated... each time i had to adjoust setting (you know same solution?)
[12:28] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: I action
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: does the pc move?
[12:29] <amerigo> no
[12:29] <amerigo> still here
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: you could configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:29] <amerigo> but IP return to be the one NIC assigned
[12:30] <amerigo> i have do some time ago...
[12:30] <amerigo> my doubt is tha i have downloaded some adjourning
[12:30] <markus_> hy wer da
[12:30] <amerigo> ok i check
[12:31] <Salze_> ActionParsnip: No, same error with sudo.
[12:31] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: infact it have non ip assigned
[12:32] <markus_> spricht wer deutsch von euch
[12:32] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: have you some example of IP configuration ?
[12:32] <Salze_> It seems that I have no khotkeys executable. Which packages provides that app?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: if you edit /etc/network/interfaces then network config apps will not work but the ip will be set at boot
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/f62419efa
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: you'll need: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: as its root owned
[12:34] <bentob0x> when I do CTRL+ALT+F1, I can't see my tty anymore (neither can I see the various messages when I shut my computer down)
[12:34] <bentob0x> this happens since my upgrade to 8.10
[12:34] <dr_willis> Anyone ever notice tehse Portable 'laptop sized' usb hard drives having a usb cable with 2 conectors  that plug into the pc? whats the reason for that? just to get more power to the HD?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: yeah sounds like extra power to me
[12:35] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: address for loopback must be cleared?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: huh?
[12:36] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: i have : address 127.0.0.1
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: then dont use it, i only gave you mine to show the format of the file, populate it with your settings
[12:37] <dr_willis> Just wondering what the effect of using a normal usb cable would be - with just  1 plug.
[12:37] <markus_> how are all
[12:37] <dr_willis> the drive seems to work with a normal cable.. but just being safe
[12:37] <amerigo> ActionParsnip: it is used for php
[12:37] <Mamarok> Salze_: khotkeys is a deamon that should be loaded by default
[12:38] <Mamarok> Salze_: check the System Settings-Advanced-Services
[12:38] <markus_> girls online?
[12:38] <Mamarok> markus_: don't be a jerk!
[12:39] <markus_> please what
[12:39] <Salze_> Mamarok: it says it is loaded.
[12:39] <Mamarok> Salze_: strange, did you try to reload X?
[12:40] <markus_> can you read german
[12:40] <Mamarok> markus_: "girls online?" is a jerky question.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> amerigo: then leave it in, just add the lines for eth0
[12:40] <markus_> sorry
[12:42] <markus_> who can write german
[12:42] <Mamarok> markus_: go to #kubuntu-de
[12:42] <markus_> why
[12:42] <Mamarok> that's the German channel
[12:43] <Mamarok> if you want to write/speak/ask in German
[12:43] <markus_> thanky you
[12:43] <Mamarok> np
[12:44] <Salze_> Mamarok: yes.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: ty man
[13:19] <easyfit> hey, I'm just getting started with a new kubuntu server, and I'm wondering if there's anyway to check if there's any security bulletins which may apply to my system though the shell?
[13:20] <easyfit> *through
[13:20] <easyfit> something similar to glsa-check on gentoo if anyone is familiar with that
[13:21] <easyfit> I guess some other way of receiving information about security updates would do as well
[13:22] <dr_willis> I just update/upgrade at least once a week
[13:23] <easyfit> I'd rather not upgrade packages which I don't need to upgrade though, since each such upgrade is a stability risk...
[13:24] <easyfit> anyway, I subscribed to a mailing list with security updates, I guess that will have to do
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Good Morning all
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Good Morning all
[13:26] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> lo
[13:30] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !Last.fm
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Last.fm
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: bit of luck
[13:33] <BluesKaj> yeah
[13:34] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I tried it but the registration insisted spelling my nick wrong so i dumped it
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: just use the mispelled name, as long as you get access it doesnt matter surely
[13:36] <BluesKaj> I'm not real keen on what most ppl are listening to anyway ... I listen to what I like
[13:36] <Kiry> ok, I'm having a major brain fart
[13:36] <Kiry> how do I get kubuntu to see a XP drive on another computer?
[13:37] <dr_willis> Setup a 'share' on the remote box.. and access the share.
[13:38] <Kiry> again, major brain fart, *how* do I set up a 'share'??
[13:38] <Kiry> how do I identify the windoze box?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !samba | Kiry
[13:39] <dr_willis> Set up s 'shared' on the windows box .. using the windows tools/menus
[13:39] <dr_willis> You may want to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf to  be on the same workgroup as the windows box also.. makes things easier
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Kiry: if you want it mounted at boot you can use smbmount and it will appear as a local folder
[13:40] <Kiry> ah, I have one XP box that can be seen by the 'nix one, but not the other one
[13:40] <Kiry> Action, this!
[13:40] <Kiry> I recognize smbmount but don't remember how it was invoked :-/
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Kiry: then you have a little project ;)
[13:41] <Kiry> aye
[13:46] <dr_willis> You need to have the samba server installed on the linux box.. if you want windows to access any shares on it..
[13:46] <dr_willis> and of course - setup/defind some shares for windows to access
[13:54] <chfwiggum> is there a package like auto-apt for aptitude users?
[13:54] <Mamarok> chfwiggum: aptitude uses apt-get :)
[13:54] <Mamarok> it's just a frontend
[13:56] <chfwiggum> Mamarok: :) so i can also use apt-get when using aptitude before? i really thought it's the other way 'round. thx a lot for not letting me die stupid :)
[13:56] <NielsE> hi, where can I find more information about Kubuntu Jaunty? I would like to help spotting and testing bugs
[13:57] <Mamarok> NielsE: it's still bleeding edge alpha, not for production use at all
[13:57] <NielsE> Mamarok: I know
[13:57] <NielsE> Mamarok: but its not on http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[13:58] <NielsE> I have found this: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs-Kubuntu/jaunty/alpha-1/ is this the official alpha 1 version?
[13:58] <Mamarok> NielsE: of course not, it's not released yet :)
[13:58] <NielsE> Mamarok: I'm searching for the alpha, I've been on Ubuntu Intrepid since Alpha 1 so I know what I'm going into, but the kubuntu.com site is very unclear about the upcoming release
[14:00] <Mamarok> NielsE: check the CD image here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-1/
[14:01] <NielsE> Mamarok: thanks, too bad the Kubuntu .iso has also the "over 700mb", i think I'm going to test it in a vm for now
[14:04]  * Mamarok always has some 800 Mb CD-RWs lying around :)
[14:15] <NeoTr> Merhaba arkadaşlar
[14:31] <Mamarok> NeoTr: English please!
[14:35] <moi> hi! how i can install home workgroup windows vista and this linux kubuntu?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> moisad, how do you mean...on seperate partitions ?
[14:40] <moisad> i want share printer to windows computers
[14:42] <LjL> !sharedprinting | moisad
[14:43] <LjL> uhm, i thought that would be more informative
[14:43] <aleboco> hi guys, i'm having a big problem with ipw2200. it's just unable to associate to my essid. i've found this thread in ubuntuforums (971872). can any one help me?
[14:45] <LjL> moisad: look, you need to use Samba to share printers, but i'm completely at a loss on how to configure that in KDE 4 (and for that matter in KDE 3 too mostly)
[14:47] <coubeatczech> hello, do you know what is the default mysql password? I installed the mysql database from repository and now I dont know how to administrate it...
[14:49] <moisad>  this linuxcomputer found windows computer but windows computer didnt found linux computer
[14:50] <LjL> moisad: you need to install the "samba" package, but then i don't know how to configure it graphically in KDE (as opposed to messing with /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[14:50] <moisad> can i have you msn talk more?
[14:50] <KiDFlaSh> WHY I HAVE Linux Delta-1 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:51] <KiDFlaSh> canonical ssucks?
[14:51] <KiDFlaSh> :B
[14:51] <LjL> KiDFlaSh: ... what's the issue exactly?
[14:52] <KiDFlaSh> no issue
[14:52] <KiDFlaSh> but why canonical gives -9?
[14:52] <KiDFlaSh> and not the stable one
[14:53] <bazhang> KiDFlaSh, that numbering system is no longer operative
[14:53] <bazhang> ie odd unstable, even stable
[14:54] <KiDFlaSh> ok
[14:59] <mikelima> hello all...
[15:00] <mikelima> I've updated to jaunty, and as expected there are a few problems.
[15:00] <mikelima> But... does Kubuntu default to double click to open folders?
[15:00] <Tm_T> mikelima: I think yes
[15:01] <Tm_T> !jaunty | mikelima
[15:01] <mikelima> Tm_T: but shouldn'r it honor my settings? I have single click in my options.
[15:01] <Tm_T> mikelima: it should
[15:01] <mikelima> Tm_T: well, it doesn't.
[15:02] <Tm_T> mikelima: just for hint: there's no "development" done there yet really, also, that kind of bug issues, if that's one, is not high priority yet
[15:02] <mikelima> Tm_T: well, then maybe it would be better to provide unpatched packages...
[15:03] <Tm_T> mikelima: are you sure they are patched?
[15:03] <mikelima> Well, some friend recompiled from source, and there is no problem with single click...
[15:03] <mikelima> And I've asked #kde-devel, they said single click is the default.
[15:04] <Tm_T> yes it is in plain KDE, but we are Debian derivative, you know (:)
[15:04] <Tm_T> anyway, this conversation isn't really "support" so I'd say this is not the place, sounds ok?
[15:06] <mikelima> thank, you, that's very helpful.
[15:07] <Tm_T> you're welcome
[15:10] <urij> Драсть всем!
[15:10] <LjL> !ru | urij
[15:20] <da_> What is agood cheap MP3 player that works on Linux?
[15:20] <Tm_T> da_: any that works as "usb mass storage"
[15:21] <da_> Okay, those at walmart?
[15:21] <Tm_T> cannot tell, closest walmart is some 20 000 miles away?
[15:22] <da_> Wow, where are you?
[15:22] <Tm_T> behind Snowy Mountains
[15:22] <da_> Mind is 1.5 miles
[15:23] <Tm_T> you know, people are around the world at these channels (;)
[15:23] <da_> you vermont or utah?
[15:23] <Tm_T> err, neither
[15:23] <Tm_T> https://edge.launchpad.net/~tmt
[15:23] <da_> Swiss alpps?
[15:24] <da_> Thanks Tm_T...
[15:24] <Tm_T> np
[15:25] <pulaski> Hello, is anyone here familiar with the tilp2 package?
[15:33] <cuznt> !tilp2
[15:36] <KiDFlaSh> !tllo
[15:36] <KiDFlaSh> !lol
[15:36] <KiDFlaSh> !rofl
[15:37] <cuznt> is there anyway to get my /media/disk to not be in root?
[15:37] <cuznt> i share music files and want to not chmod everytime i restart
[15:39] <bazhang> KiDFlaSh, ??
[15:43] <snarkster> what is the command to edit the menu?
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> which menu?
[15:45] <snarkster> the kmenu
[15:45] <reanimation> what is wardriving ?
[15:46] <SlimeyPete> snarkster: right-click the 'K', select edit
[15:46] <reanimation> can anbody tell me how to start gui of kismet in linux ?
[15:46] <snarkster> im in beta, there is no option for edit
[15:46] <SlimeyPete> reanimation: it's when you drive around with a laptop looking for wifi hotpsots
[15:46] <LeeJunFan> what's the best thing to record a desktop session to video? recordmydesktop?
[15:46] <reanimation> thanks
[15:47] <snarkster> its also illegal
[15:47] <LeeJunFan> it's not illegal unless you join the network.
[15:47] <LeeJunFan> at least not in the USA
[15:47] <reanimation> slimeypete : how to start gui of kismet in linux ?
[15:47] <SlimeyPete> reanimation: don't know, sorry
[15:48] <reanimation> please help me
[15:48] <CrazyKlompjes> mansytcu sipna
[15:48] <dwidmann> meh, if the wifi hotspot is wide open they deserve to have their bandwidth leached away :P
[15:49] <reanimation> no one how to start gui of kismet
[15:50] <reanimation> what are the requirement to be a linux system programmer ?
[15:51] <snarkster> n/m i found it.. duh Im an idiot.. kmenuedit
[15:51] <dwidmann> reanimation: willingness to learn and capacity for information
[15:51] <reanimation> i mean programming skills
[15:51] <snarkster> know C, C++, be flexible
[15:51] <snarkster> be creative
[15:52] <snarkster> be free
[15:52] <reanimation> assembly is required ?
[15:52] <dwidmann> unless you're working with the kernel, I would think using assembly would be discouraged.
[15:52] <cuznt> !chmod
[15:55] <reanimation> can some one tell whee to meet real system programmers ?
[15:57] <pulaski> ubottu: tilp2 is a texas instruments calculator linking program
[15:59] <reanimation> #ubuntu -in
[16:00] <reanimation> #ubuntu-in
[16:00] <pulaski> cuznt: tilp2 is a texas instruments calculator linking program
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> is anyone proficient with ffpeg to make avis smaller
[16:01] <bazhang> !info tilp2 | pulaski
[16:01] <bazhang> oops
[16:02] <cuznt> i was not asking about tilp was asking for someone else here
[16:02] <bazhang> yep
[16:02] <bazhang> he left
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: can you suggest an app to shick avis
[16:03] <bazhang> shick?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !info shick
[16:04] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, you mean shrink?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> yeah
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82525/
[16:06] <cuznt> is there a way to get my /media to load anywhere other than /
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: Ive no ide but you wont gain anything. The /media folder is full of folders for mount points so uses no space
[16:09] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=FAQ avidemux ?
[16:09] <cuznt> i must chmod everytime i restart. /media is where my shared music is
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: http://wiki.showmedo.com/index.php/Video_editing_Ubuntu
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: about 80% of the way down
[16:16] <snarkster> how do you find which x11drv you are using?
[16:16] <hw__> How can I redirect stderr and stdout to a file? application 2>&1 1>file.txt doesn't work...
[16:17] <snarkster> have you tried >>
[16:17] <hw__> snarkster: Where?
[16:18] <snarkster> application 2>> error.txt &1>>file.txt
[16:20] <hw__> snarkster: Works, but isn't possible with redirect as well?
[16:22] <snarkster> hmm thats strange.
[16:22] <snarkster> it should redirect to the designated file
[16:23] <m4v> and with &>? echo asdasdasd &> file.txt
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/291011/comments/1
[16:25] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, I used ffmpeg in intrepid without issue; perhaps because I am on 32bit
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> possibly, 64 here
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> anyway, im gonna save cpu cycles and split
[16:27] <ubuntu__> z
[16:34] <moms> salut a tous
[16:36] <moms> j ai un souci avec kubuntu et adept
[16:36] <bazhang> !fr
[16:36] <moms> sory
[16:39] <MarkusAs> hallo an alle
[16:40] <MarkusAs> hab ein problem Problem mit kaffeine und dvb-s immer wenn ich nen kanal weiterklicken will reagiert kaffeine nimmer weiss jemand was des is?
[16:41] <bazhang> !de
[16:45] <xray7224> hi
[16:45] <SlimeyPete> lo
[16:45] <jon__> hi i am running kubuntu 8.04. i cannot seet any window manager, i.e. no title bar for applications, no resizing moving etc. thnx
[16:46] <SlimeyPete> did you try to enable Compiz (Desktop Effects) or something?
[16:46] <jon__> no in fact i just removed the packages for that
[16:46] <xray7224> thats why
[16:47] <xray7224> part of compiz is used for the windows manager
[16:47] <SlimeyPete> I suspect that kwin isn't running when you log in, but I'm afraid I can't remember which file you have to edit to re-enable it.
[16:47] <jon__> ah k, i see
[16:47] <SlimeyPete> it'll be an xsession file or something like that I guess
[16:48] <jon__> cant even cchange focus
[16:48] <jon__> so what will the solution be?
[16:49] <jon__> ah i just ran kwin and it all came back
[16:49] <jon__> thx
[16:50] <jon__> so what will be permanent solution?
[16:53] <jon__> SlimeyPete so what is the permanent solution? sry just gt disconnected
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> jon__: you need to make it run on startup. I think you need to edit a file in /etc/X11, or possible in /usr/share somewhere
[16:54] <SlimeyPete> but I'm afraid I can't remember exactly which file, sorry
[16:54] <jon__> ok cani add it to cron or something?
[16:56] <SlimeyPete> jon__: try "gedit ~/.xinitrc" then put "#!/bin/sh" then "exec kwin" (on a new line) in the file
[16:56] <SlimeyPete> that should make kwin run when you log in
[16:57] <SlimeyPete> that's not the "proper" way to do it but it's the best I can think of at the moment
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> jon__: for more on xinitrc see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[16:58] <avb> guys, is kopete still lacking msn support?
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> jon__: oh, note that you might have to add "exec startkde" too
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> jon__: but tbh this is a hack; you'd be better off googling/forum-ing to find out how to fix your default window manager
[16:59] <avb> afaik in order to use exec u need to use full path to an app
[17:00] <avb> like exec `which startkde`
[17:00] <jon__> SlimeyPete k thx
[17:03] <ebuddy> !seen flaccid
[17:05] <koperton> save radio stream with amarok ?
[17:05] <aleboco> hi guys, i'm having a big problem with ipw2200. it's just unable to associate to my essid. i've found this thread in ubuntuforums (971872). can any one help me?
[17:06] <koperton> sudo iwconfig DEVICENAME essid "NAME ESSID"
[17:09] <koperton> :) streamripper
[17:27] <macjason0607> guys .. there a very easy to setup vnc server that dosen't require a lot of configureing ??
[17:27] <SiVA_> hey
[17:27] <DaSkreech> !vnx
[17:28] <DaSkreech> !vnc
[17:28] <DaSkreech> !freenx
[17:28] <Mamarok> apachelogger: is there a neon channel?
[17:28] <SiVA_> macjason0607: look at tightvnc
[17:37] <markus__> go to kubunto.de
[17:39] <DaSkreech> Wot?
[17:39] <DaSkreech> !hi | BluesKaj
[17:46] <DeviantPeer> Hi all
[17:47] <macjason0607> SiVA_, .. most vnc servers i try to use when i connect to them from work the gui is crappy
[17:49] <DaSkreech> FreeNx is nice
[17:49] <DaSkreech> -ish
[17:50] <macjason0607> vncserver -geometry 1024x768 depth :32 < -- how is this command ?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> hi DaSkreech ...was outside checking the burnt out christmas lights  ..gotta get another string I guess
[17:59] <macjason0607> Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.
[17:59] <macjason0607> Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[17:59] <macjason0607> anyone ?
[18:00] <DaSkreech> is there a /etc entry for the server?
[18:01] <macjason0607> DaSkreech, that for me ?
[18:01] <DaSkreech> Yes
[18:02] <macjason0607> DaSkreech, don't know how to i find out ?
[18:03] <rogan> Whats the best way to clear up some space on my system?
[18:03] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: erm .. look if there is a /etc/tightvnc or /etc/xtightvnc entry
[18:03] <DaSkreech> rogan: from where?
[18:04] <rogan> DaSreech not sure I just transfered all my media to another disk and im left with about 30 gigs of used space that I dont know what it would be
[18:04] <DaSkreech> ?
[18:04] <DaSkreech> this is on / ?
[18:05] <rogan> I moved basicly everything off my computer and ubuntu is taking up about 30 gigs.
[18:06] <rogan> is that about normal?
[18:06] <max_> no
[18:06] <macjason0607> DaSkreech, there is nothing
[18:06] <rogan> so how can I find whats taking up so much space?
[18:06] <DaSkreech> rogan: ducks I guess
[18:06] <max_> dont now
[18:07] <DaSkreech> There is a visual way to see the space but  I like ducks
[18:08] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: is there a /etc/vnc ?
[18:08] <rogan> ducks?
[18:08] <macjason0607> no
[18:08] <macjason0607> DaSkreech, i removed it
[18:09] <macjason0607> im going to try vnc4server
[18:09] <DaSkreech> rogan: open a terminal and type alias ducks='du -cks * | sort -rn | head -11'
[18:09] <DaSkreech> rogan: then type cd / ; ducks
[18:09] <DaSkreech> It should give you the directory taking up the most space
[18:09] <DaSkreech> Sorted by biggest to smallest
[18:17] <macjason0607> weird
[18:17] <macjason0607> i can't open my system settings
[18:17] <DaSkreech> what is it saying?
[18:18] <rogan> DaSkreech http://pastebin.com/m3e1ed449
[18:19] <macjason0607> who is that for ?
[18:19] <al3x-admin> Hi all, I have a problem with the KBluetooth4 package. I open konsole, and run it, but it just crashes with signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I'm on Kubuntu 8.10 amd64 + 2.6.27.10-generic + KDE 4.2 beta1
[18:19] <macjason0607> oh
[18:19] <goeser> hi! is there some dcop / dbus command in kde 4 which allows me to switch on / off the desktop effects via command line?
[18:19] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: What does it say when you try to open systemsettings ?
[18:20] <macjason0607> DaSkreech, nothing .. it just won't open
[18:20] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: open it from the command line see if it puts out an error there
[18:21] <DaSkreech> rogan: You still have the external disk mounted ?
[18:21] <rogan> ya
[18:21] <DaSkreech> unmount it
[18:21] <macjason0607> how do i open it form the command line DaSkreech ?
[18:22] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: open a konsole and type systemsettings
[18:22] <DaSkreech> it's in /media that's making / look bigger than it is
[18:22] <chfwiggum> !kerberos
[18:22] <KiDFlaSh> !canonical
[18:23] <KiDFlaSh> !canonical does no contribution
[18:24] <KiDFlaSh> failed
[18:24] <KiDFlaSh> !failed
[18:26] <rogan> DaSkreech http://pastebin.com/m5ae2a0c8 http://pastebin.com/m148a7bdd
[18:26] <KiDFlaSh> !canonical failed?
[18:27] <DaSkreech> KiDFlaSh: What are you doing?
[18:27] <DaSkreech> rogan: that's still a lot of stuf in home
[18:27] <KiDFlaSh> i try to ask the bot, importand questions
[18:28] <rjb> hi @ll
[18:28] <DaSkreech> cd into home (or if you know which one is taking up space into that dir) and type ducks again
[18:28] <DaSkreech> you can essentially keep doing that to track down what is using space
[18:28] <DaSkreech> KiDFlaSh: Please message the bot
[18:28] <KiDFlaSh> ok
[18:30] <rjb> ok here's what i've got: a 3 year old laptop with sis integrated vga, and a flatscreen tv witha vga input. I can't figure out any way that works, to use the tv as a screen in kubuntu
[18:30] <rjb> any suggestions?
[18:31] <rjb> (other than buy a new box with a better graphics card)
[18:31] <goeser> rjb: does the driver support xrandr? => check the output of the xrandr command
[18:32] <DaSkreech> Yeah that^^^
[18:32] <kottlett> damn defaults -_-
[18:32] <rjb> ok taking notes (the laptop is back at home)
[18:33] <rjb> btw doing obvious stuff with systems settings does not work
[18:34] <rjb> otoh at boot the splash screen does display on the tv (when connected)
[18:34] <kottlett> rjb: I think the systemsettings stuff for display configuration is beta - if at all =P if your driver supports the randr extension, everything might just be easy
[18:35] <rjb> well i tried looking up info under the url given in the driver's manpage
[18:35] <rjb> unfortunately it seems that site went away :(
[18:36] <legodude> when I try to print from okular it freezes on me
[18:36] <legodude> could my default printer being on a different wifi network than I am on right now be causing it?
[18:37] <legodude> same thing when I try to look at the printer config app
[18:38] <vatusaixx> hola alguien que desee charlar
[18:38] <vatusaixx> hola
[18:41] <vatusaixx> hola
[18:41] <LjL> !es | vatusaixx
[18:51] <kev_> I have a simple question that someone may have the answer to: when I try to install an nvidia proprietary driver with the hardware drivers app, i click activate and it doesn't
[18:51] <kev_> any ideas why it would do that?
[18:54] <synaptix> !removepulseaudio
[18:55] <synaptix> !pulseaudio-kubuntu
[18:55] <synaptix> ?
[18:55] <synaptix> ok, removal of pulseaudio in kubuntu hardy
[18:56] <synaptix> reading the wiki page shows a place to change the config.. which is
[18:56] <synaptix> either a file that does not exist, or a part of the gui that I can't see
[18:56] <synaptix> gnome-specific?
[18:57] <synaptix>  /system/preferences/sound?
[19:00] <rogan> is it safe to delete the .cache folder? i noticed its got about 9gigs of junk in it
[19:01] <rogan> http://pastebin.com/m24018e86
[19:05] <DaSkreech> rogan: yes
[19:07] <slicslak> has anyone gotten the wireless start before logging in?
[19:11] <synaptix> is there a page which describes how to remove pulseaudio from kubuntu?
[19:11] <synaptix> or any advice anyone can offer?
[19:12] <gaelan> when i open a document over a network from a samba share using Dolphin it automatically wants to copy the entire file to my drive before opening
[19:12] <gaelan> any ideas how to prevent that?
[19:13] <loganWHD> anyone have success in getting flash to work in 8.04?
[19:13] <synaptix> this page from the Kubuntu wiki https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio offers instructions for GUI configuration and removal which are Gnome-specific.
[19:13] <loganWHD> in mozzila?
[19:13] <synaptix> yes, logan
[19:14] <loganWHD> how
[19:14] <synaptix> but I didn't do anything particularly abnormal
[19:14] <synaptix> it just worked
[19:14] <synaptix> well, I say that, I currently have a pulseaudio problem - somehow it's ended up installed
[19:14] <synaptix> so that's my sound borked then.
[19:15] <synaptix> ah well, I guess when I uninstall pulseaudio my sound will just break
[19:16] <synaptix> since I can't follow the gnome instructions here:
[19:16] <synaptix> !pulseaudio
[19:16] <synaptix> or here:
[19:16] <synaptix> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio
[19:16] <loganWHD> i install and install but no go on flash
[19:17] <little> loganWHD: Try Firefox.
[19:18] <loganWHD> i am in FF
[19:18] <little> loganWHD: Maybe you have an addon that's conflicting with it...?
[19:24] <morrigan_> buenas
[19:26]  * chalcedny smiles
[19:26] <chalcedny>  my husband's computer worked this morning, he went out of the room and came back, the power supply had quit working. So now trying t
[19:27] <chalcedny> get his old one to work, but i'm getting two beeps-three beeps, nothing on the monitor/
[19:27] <chalcedny> ?
[19:28] <DaSkreech> chalcedny: ##hardware ?
[19:29] <little> chalcedny: Is everything snug inside the case, and is everything plugged in properly?
[19:29] <chalcedny> DaSkreech ##hardware seems not to be interested
[19:30] <faichele> What mainboard manufacturer + model?
[19:30] <chalcedny> plugged in...
[19:32] <faichele> That sequence of beeps you hear give a quite good hint on what could be wrong.
[19:33] <faichele> To find out what the sequence means, you need to know the manufacturer + mb model...
[19:35] <Guest41222> im really getting agrivated....  I downloaded amarok and keep getting the "No available decoder" error message... I uninstalled and reinstalled and still get the same thing...   I want to listen to internet radio only.. Can someone help me please....
[19:36] <Mamarok> Guest41222: what distro?
[19:36] <Guest41222> ubuntu 8.10
[19:36] <Mamarok> did you download Amarok from the repos?
[19:36] <Guest41222> y
[19:36] <Guest41222> synaptic
[19:37] <Mamarok> did you also install the libxine1-ffmpeg package?
[19:37] <Mamarok> that's where the mp3 codecs are :)
[19:37] <Guest41222> sorry ,  Im new to linux.. didnt know that I had to or how to
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Guest41222, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:37] <BluesKaj> in the konsole
[19:37] <Mamarok> Guest41222: well, mp3 codec is patented software, so it's not installed by default
[19:38] <Guest41222> i see,  I am downloading now
[19:38] <chalcedny> faichele are the letters SN in a rectangular box indicative ?
[19:38] <Guest41222> done
[19:38] <Guest41222> so do I reinstall again?
[19:38] <chalcedny> i don't think i see any numbers..
[19:38] <faichele> Do you have a set of manuals for that PC?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Guest41222, no need to reinstall just install  libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:39] <Guest41222> ok, let me try it again
[19:40] <chalcedny> faichele i suspect he asked it and read it off the monitor... asking him
[19:41] <faichele> If you know how to get the case open... the manufacturer + model ID are usually found printed on the mainboard itself.
[19:41] <Guest41222> ya know,,,,  I have been tring for 4 days to get this damn thing fixed..  I THANK YOU for your time helping me..
[19:41] <chalcedny> faichele it's open lying there.. ii just don't see any..
[19:42] <chalcedny> i have a flashlight even
[19:42] <DaSkreech> Guest41222: Welcome to Linux
[19:42] <dr_willis> theres often Info on the very very first screen of the bootup/post display also.. You may have to hit pause/break to pause it.. so you can read them
[19:42] <chalcedny> dr_willis is that for me? it's not getting anything on the monitor
[19:43] <faichele> http://www.bioscentral.com/
[19:43] <little> chalcedny: Is the cord that plugs into the monitor plugged in properly?
[19:43] <faichele> Look on the right side for "BIOS beep codes".
[19:43] <dr_willis> yes. Lots of times however.. the monitor dosent show a picture fast enough ive seen.. ;( bios may also have a page with some info/#'s
[19:44] <dr_willis> Beep Codes. :) The fun stuff.
[19:44] <Mamarok> Guest89929: great it works :)
[19:44] <faichele> Without knowing which mainboard manufacturer, no way to tell which BIOS is used, sorry...
[19:44] <Mamarok> oops, wron Guest-nick :)
[19:44] <webas> hello.. i always get KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/ktorrent' - sorry dolphin.... but the program works just fine :)
[19:44] <Mamarok> *wrong
[19:47] <chalcedny> two things say gigabyte
[19:48] <chalcedny> cord is directly to the monitor
[19:48] <faichele> Gigabyte... OK.
[19:48] <faichele> Now for the model number...
[19:49] <chalcedny> vt8233
[19:49] <chalcedny> ?
[19:49] <faichele> That's a chipset identifier.
[19:50] <chalcedny> ok
[19:50] <faichele> Look for a number/letter sequence starting with "GA-"
[19:50] <DaSkreech> That sounds like a model number
[19:50] <chalcedny> hmm
[19:50] <da_> what MP3 player works well with kubuntu?
[19:50] <synaptix> amarok, da_
[19:50] <synaptix> and it's awesome :)
[19:51] <chalcedny> i gave up looking on the board surface.. there just aren't numbers bigger than the teeny identifiers
[19:51] <da_> Is that the name of the player?
[19:51] <Mamarok> da_: yes
[19:51] <synaptix> yes, and the package :)
[19:51] <Mamarok> Da
[19:52] <Mamarok> da_: if you install it, don't forget to install the libxine1-ffmpeg package also, else you have no decoder
[19:52] <piotr_> qualcuno italiano?
[19:52] <da_> so, do I get the package from
[19:52] <Mamarok> !it
[19:53] <faichele> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_List.aspx?FAQID=2234
[19:53] <da_> ok,ty
[19:53] <chalcedny> foundit! GA 7VTXE rev 1.1
[19:53] <Mamarok> da_: are you familiar with the command line?
[19:53] <da_> yes
[19:54] <Mamarok> type sudo apt-get install Amarok libxine1-ffmpeg
[19:54] <da_> okty
[19:54] <Mamarok> hm, amarok would be better :)
[19:54] <chalcedny> my husband uses amarok, it's nice
[19:55] <chalcedny> faichele foundit! GA 7VTXE rev 1.1
[19:55] <da_> the little iconhere on the bottom for amarok mean anything?
[19:56] <DaSkreech> da_: It's he system tray icon you can mouse wheel up/down on it it to fast forward or reverse the song
[19:56] <DaSkreech> as well as volume
[19:57] <da_> ok, I'm going out to but a MP3 player,just want to get music for it...
[19:58] <patricio> hi
[19:58] <loganWHD> so anyone get flash working in 8.04
[19:58] <loganWHD> i have tried so many posts
[19:58] <loganWHD> and can't get it to work
[19:58] <faichele> What was the beep sequence again?
[19:58] <patricio_> hello
[19:58] <little> faichele: two then three
[19:58] <glade88> loganWHD: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:59] <loganWHD> yah
[19:59] <loganWHD> been there
[19:59] <loganWHD> done that
[19:59] <Mamarok> da_: you should check this page before you buy something:
[19:59] <loganWHD> 500 times
[19:59] <Mamarok> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Devices
[19:59] <loganWHD> unistalled
[19:59] <loganWHD> reinstalled
[19:59] <loganWHD> etc
[19:59] <loganWHD> nada
[19:59] <glade88> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[20:00] <Tm_T> loganWHD: how it doesn't work?
[20:00] <glade88> and excuse me for all those orange colors :)
[20:00] <loganWHD> ie.  when i go to youtube or any other flash site i get this message
[20:00] <chalcedny> GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Specification - GA-7VTXE
[20:00] <chalcedny> GIGABYTE,Product,Motherboard,Specification,GA-7VTXE. ... GIGA-BYTE TECHNOLOGY CO ., LTD. Any unauthorized use is strictly prohibited.
[20:01] <loganWHD> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player.
[20:01] <chalcedny> www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=1310
[20:01] <glade88> loganWHD: please see the link I gave you then.. :)
[20:01] <loganWHD> thanks i shall
[20:01] <glade88> yw
[20:02] <faichele> I can't recognize the BIOS manufacturer on that screenshot; too small.
[20:02] <faichele> IS there any difference in the lkenght of the beeps?
[20:02] <faichele> Length of the beeps...
[20:02] <Magni> noob here
[20:02] <Magni> why does adept make my kubuntu crash
[20:02] <Magni> every single time
[20:02] <Magni> ?
[20:03] <Magni> and sudo apt-get in the console won't work either
[20:05] <BluesKaj> is there an nvidia equivalent of the fglrx test "fgl_glxgears"  ?
[20:06] <loganWHD> glade88:  i appreciate the help
[20:06] <loganWHD> but this wasnt what i needed
[20:06] <loganWHD> this was the standard how to install
[20:06] <loganWHD> i did this 1000 times
[20:06] <keymone> anybody has performance problems with nvidia?
[20:06] <synaptix> what's your problem logan?
[20:06] <loganWHD> flash
[20:06] <loganWHD> and 8.04
[20:06] <loganWHD> getting it work
[20:07] <glade88> loganWHD: tried all three flash alternatives FF gives?
[20:07] <synaptix> in a particular browser?
[20:07] <loganWHD> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player.
[20:07] <loganWHD> in FF
[20:07] <loganWHD> i never get the pop up asking me to install plug ins
[20:07] <synaptix> is it an FF you installed from the website, or one from a package?
[20:07] <chalcedny> faichele they are two short fast beeps and then three short fast beeps.. all the same length with a longish space in between the two sets
[20:07] <loganWHD> so i did it thru konsole, synaptic....
[20:07] <Magni> so does anyone know how to fix this? "E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)"
[20:07] <synaptix> right, and it just acts like the plugin isn't installed?
[20:08] <loganWHD> i am gonna say  i think package
[20:08] <Magni> i can't install/upgrade anything anymore
[20:08] <loganWHD> synaptix: yes
[20:08] <Magni> going through adept makes kubuntu crash
[20:08] <glade88> loganWHD: do you have "Shockwave flash" in Toold->addons->plugins ?
[20:08] <Magni> going through the other apps fails
[20:08] <synaptix> tells you you need to go and get it some?
[20:08] <Mamarok> Magni: do you run adept with sudo?
[20:08] <synaptix> *somewhere
[20:08] <loganWHD> NO
[20:08] <chalcedny> faichele i found the manual online, but not the codes, separately... are they in the pdf manual?
[20:08] <loganWHD> glade88:  no
[20:08] <Magni> and going through the console givesme this E54
[20:08] <Magni> of course
[20:09] <Mamarok> Magni: do you get error messages more explicit than just a number?
[20:09] <Magni> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[20:09] <Magni> I get this
[20:09] <loganWHD> i have tried to install from adobe
[20:09] <Magni> no matter what install/upgrade I try to do
[20:09] <loganWHD> installed the non-free
[20:09] <loganWHD> konsole
[20:09] <loganWHD> synaptic
[20:09] <loganWHD> nada on all
[20:09] <Mamarok> Magni: ok, so you should edit your sources.list
[20:10] <Mamarok> and check if there is an error somewhere
[20:10] <Magni> alright, how do I do this
[20:10] <synaptix> did you restart firefox? I guess so?
[20:10] <Magni> and how do know what the error is
[20:10] <loganWHD> hehe
[20:10] <loganWHD> 1000x's
[20:10] <synaptix> eeks
[20:10] <Magni> just got on linux three weeks ago so noob
[20:10] <beba> Hi!
[20:10] <Mamarok> Magni: try it on the command line with the following command:
[20:10] <synaptix> you could try to put a symbolic link to it in your firefox installation's plugins directory
[20:11] <synaptix> then restart it
[20:11] <Mamarok> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources-list
[20:11] <chalcedny> Magni congratulations for taking the big step
[20:11] <faichele> These beep codes aren't usually documented by mb manufacturers themselves.
[20:11] <loganWHD> synaptix: not sure hwat that means?
[20:11] <faichele> They depend on the BIOS manufacturer's choice.
[20:11] <Magni> The file /etc/apt/sources-list could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[20:11] <Magni> Check if you have read access to this file.
[20:11] <chalcedny> ahhh
[20:12] <Mamarok> Magni: you can then copy-past your file in http://past.ubuntu.com and send the link here
[20:12] <chalcedny> faichele the bios chip has numbers etc .. want that?
[20:12] <synaptix> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[20:12] <synaptix> and restart firefox?
[20:12] <Mamarok> Magni: hm, did you erase it?
[20:12] <Magni> i can't open it
[20:12] <Magni> only get errors
[20:12] <faichele> What's printed on it?
[20:12] <beba> !list
[20:13] <chalcedny> Mamarok did you mean: http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[20:13] <loganWHD> synaptix:  that didnt do anything
[20:13] <synaptix> (make sure you really exit it, and the download window, might want to killall -9 firefox-bin a couple of times after you think it's shut down, too)
[20:14] <Magni> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82619/
[20:14] <Mamarok> Magni: looks like your file is broken, can you give me the output of ls -a /etc/apt/ in pastebin please?
[20:15] <KennethP> I just installed latest Kopete with KDE 4.2beta1. Looks like there is no support for the MSN protocol in this version. Is this a known error or just me fooling around?
[20:15] <glade88> loganWHD: what does "dpkg -l flashplugin-nonfree" give you. If this is installed, this must show under addons->plugins
[20:15] <Mamarok> chalcedny: yes, that's what I meant , thx for correcting
[20:15] <synaptix> what do you get when you do: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[20:15] <chalcedny> Mamarok np
[20:16] <synaptix> @ loganWHD:
[20:16] <synaptix> what do you get when you do: ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[20:16] <Mamarok> Magni: ls -la I mean (should read before I send things, not my day)
[20:16] <loganWHD> let me check
[20:16] <loganWHD> doing the first thing
[20:17] <synaptix> also, did you copy an old firefox folder in? It might be that it can't write to the plugin registry deely....
[20:17] <loganWHD> hrm
[20:17] <Magni> mamarok: wait, what do I type?
[20:17] <loganWHD> i might have done that but i dont think so
[20:17] <Magni> la -a /etc/apt/
[20:17] <loganWHD> but i did do a back up
[20:17] <little> faichele: It
[20:17] <loganWHD> and then restore it i think
[20:17] <synaptix> ok, can you do these things for me:
[20:17] <loganWHD> you mean permissions wise?
[20:17] <Magni> in console
[20:17] <Magni> ?
[20:17] <little> faichele: It's an AMI bios: http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/manuals/Gigabyte/GA-7VTXE/
[20:17] <synaptix> firstly, we clean up the file you created earlier:
[20:17] <Mamarok> Magni: ls -la /etc/apt/
[20:18] <Mamarok> in console, yes
[20:18] <loganWHD> i uninstalled then tried to do a install of nonfree
[20:18] <chalcedny> i'm moving from this laptop to my own computer..
[20:18] <loganWHD> and got
[20:18] <synaptix> sudo rm  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[20:18] <loganWHD> download failed
[20:18] <loganWHD> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[20:18] <Magni> mamrok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82621/
[20:18] <synaptix> ok, well do that ^, then try to reinstall flash.
[20:18] <Magni> thnx for the help btw
[20:18] <loganWHD> ok synaptix that is done
[20:19] <faichele> http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/post-beep-codes.htm
[20:19] <synaptix> and while flash installs, let's check the perms on that firefox folder
[20:19] <faichele> AMI BIOS codes don't seem to make a difference with long/short...
[20:19] <synaptix> ls -la ~/.mozilla
[20:19] <faichele> Just number of beeps relevant, and 5 is a bad sign in that case.
[20:19] <synaptix> pop the output on pastebin
[20:20] <faichele> 5 Beeps - Processor Error (may need replacement Processor)
[20:20] <Mamarok> Magni: it looks correct so far
[20:20] <Mamarok> Magni: does the following command produce something:
[20:20] <onur_> can anybody help me
[20:20] <Mamarok> less /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:21] <loganWHD> synaptix: you want me to do
[20:21] <loganWHD>  apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:21] <Mamarok> onur_: ask your question
[20:21] <synaptix> ls -la ~/.mozilla
[20:21] <synaptix> sorry
[20:21] <synaptix> yes
[20:21] <Magni> mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82623/
[20:22] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having an issue where amarok freezes when I'm away from my computer, then won't start when I kill it and try to start it again. It will start if I reboot, but that's a lame solution. Can anyone help me out?
[20:23] <Mamarok> Magni: it looks ok, very strange that you can't edit it
[20:24] <Mamarok> what was the error you had when trying to edit it with kate?
[20:24] <loganWHD> synaptix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82627/
[20:24] <synaptix> aha!
[20:24] <synaptix> :)
[20:25] <loganWHD> flash installed
[20:25] <Magni> Mamarok:
[20:25] <Magni> [21:11] <Magni> The file /etc/apt/sources-list could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[20:25] <Magni> [21:11] <Magni> Check if you have read access to this file.
[20:25] <synaptix> firefox can't register the plugin
[20:25] <synaptix> do this:
[20:25] <loganWHD> ok
[20:25] <Mamarok> Magni: you did use the sudo command, didn't you?
[20:25] <Magni> yup
[20:25] <Mamarok> then entered your password?
[20:25] <Magni> always, first thing i learned
[20:26] <Magni> ill retry if you think that's what it is
[20:26] <Mamarok> very strange...
[20:26] <synaptix> sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername ~/.mozilla
[20:26] <KennethP> I just installed Kopete 4:4.1.80-0 with KDE 4.2beta1. Looks like there is no support for the MSN protocol in this version. Is this a known error or just me fooling around? The boys over at #kopete suggest to contact you guys and mention missing "libmsn". Any ideas?
[20:26] <synaptix> change the usernames  :)
[20:26] <Mamarok> ok, I think I found the error:
[20:26] <synaptix> to your own, heh
[20:26] <Mamarok> Magni: I think your sources.list is written sources-list, that's wrong!
[20:26]  * Mamarok wonders how that could happen
[20:26] <synaptix> close firefox
[20:27] <loganWHD> closed
[20:27] <loganWHD> although i am in as root
[20:27] <loganWHD> right now
[20:27] <Magni> so how do I fix it?
[20:27] <keymone> does anybody have performance issues with nvidia and kde 4.1?
[20:27] <Magni> do I just rename the file in dolphin
[20:28] <synaptix> you are in as root?
[20:28] <loganWHD> si
[20:28] <synaptix> you're not running firefox as root?
[20:28] <synaptix> !
[20:28] <loganWHD> im not?
[20:28] <Mamarok> Magni: no, it seems correct form your ls -la output
[20:28] <Mamarok> still strange you cant edit it
[20:28] <Ch1ppy> KennethP: libmsn and associated msn support is missing in the current beta, yes. It's mentioned in the notes @ kubuntu.org.
[20:29] <Mamarok> Magni: try the following:
[20:29] <Mamarok> Magni: sudo chown root /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:29] <macjason0607> guys
[20:29] <synaptix> Your main user account shouldn't be root
[20:29] <KennethP> Ch1ppy: Ahhh, I actually snooped around there also, but must need stronger glasses...;-) Thanks for the heads up!
[20:29] <little> That leaves me out... (:
[20:30] <synaptix> The one you run your desktop as
[20:30] <Magni> Mamarok: is anything visible supposed to happen? cause I got nothing
[20:30] <Mamarok> Magni: that's ok
[20:30] <synaptix> I mean the mind boggles at how vulnerable you are if you're IRCing and web browsing as root
[20:30] <Mamarok> Magni: if there was an error it would say it
[20:30] <Magni> ok
[20:30] <loganWHD> not that vulnerable
[20:30] <Mamarok> Magni: try again sudo apt-get update
[20:31] <loganWHD> i saw you tried to get my user info
[20:31] <loganWHD> but that is hidden
[20:31] <synaptix> tried to?
[20:31] <loganWHD> in irc
[20:31] <synaptix> I looked to see if you are root@hostname
[20:31] <loganWHD> of course i am not
[20:31] <Magni> Mamarok: same error: E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[20:31] <synaptix> right, and presumably you're not running firefox as root, but as your user account?
[20:32] <synaptix> the user that should own your firefox directory is the user you run firefox as
[20:32] <synaptix> your ~/.mozilla/.firefox directory :)
[20:32] <Mamarok> Magni: could you give me the last lines you get with less /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:32] <Mamarok> it seems cut in the last pastbin you sent
[20:33] <Magni> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[20:33] <Magni> ## repository.
[20:33] <Magni> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[20:33] <Magni> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[20:33] <Magni> /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <loganWHD> i am not sure why the kubuntu/ubuntu community is so uptight abotu running as root
[20:33] <dr_willis> Magni,  the line to look at would be like 54 :)
[20:33] <Magni> YES
[20:33] <Mamarok> Magni: hm, you have /etc/apt/sources.list as last line?
[20:33] <dr_willis> loganWHD,  security is a 'process' and  its all about layers of security.
[20:33] <synaptix> only idiots run large gui apps as root and wander around the web with them
[20:34] <synaptix> if you know better than everyone else that's fine, and good luck to you :)
[20:34] <Mamarok> Magni: you didn't press the space bar, there are more lines
[20:34] <Mamarok> try again
[20:34] <Magni> Mamarok, it's alright, I opened sources.list with Dolphin, and removed the source I had last added
[20:34] <Magni> it's working now
[20:34] <loganWHD> i am not saying i know better than everyone else
[20:34] <synaptix> I mean you're running *javascript* as root :)
[20:34] <Mamarok> Magni: great :)
[20:34] <loganWHD> but htere are other ways to protect yourself
[20:35] <loganWHD> besides locking yourself out of oyur system
[20:35] <Magni> Mamarok: thanks :), g2g eat now see ya everyone
[20:35] <loganWHD> and obviously i am NOT running javascript as root
[20:35] <loganWHD> since it wont work
[20:35] <loganWHD> :)
[20:35] <synaptix> well you see every single vulnerability in every piece of software becomes a showstopper
[20:35] <dr_willis> Layers upon layers.. and i dont feel the ubuntu way 'locks youself out'
[20:35] <Mamarok> Magni: you're welcome :)
[20:35] <dr_willis> If you dont like it.. disable it.
[20:35] <synaptix> if you are running firefox as root, you *are* running javascript as root.
[20:35] <DaSkreech> Ch1ppy: Got help?
[20:36] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: Nope :(
[20:36] <synaptix> so a simple bad piece of javascript that would ordinarily lock a tab, can take your whole system down :)
[20:36] <loganWHD> and that can't happen in another user???
[20:36] <DaSkreech> KennethP: There is no MSN it said that on the instructions
[20:36] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: Sup?
[20:36] <synaptix> obviously not.
[20:37] <loganWHD> ok
[20:37] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: Cause that's the policy I guess.
[20:37] <loganWHD> yah
[20:37] <loganWHD> well i guess that is a risk i am willing to take
[20:38] <dr_willis> Theres  'secure' theres 'paranoid' and then theres 'TinFoilHat Paranoid'
[20:38] <synaptix> indeed. Go for it.
[20:38] <dr_willis> I see no reason to ever run a browser as root...
[20:38] <loganWHD> true
[20:38] <dr_willis> or most apps..
[20:38] <DaSkreech> Ch1ppy: What causes it to freeze?
[20:38] <synaptix> running a web browser as root is especially asking for it.
[20:38] <dr_willis> and running the gnome or kde file manager.. can also cause  problems.
[20:38] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: It's a silly risk :)
[20:38] <loganWHD> well i was looking to get something working not an ethics discussion
[20:39] <loganWHD> sorry for upsetting you all
[20:39] <synaptix> just because there are so many bugs, and so many pages, and so many people who are actively out to exploit you, or who are unintentionally triggering problems.
[20:39] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: What are you trying to do?
[20:39] <synaptix> it's not ethics, at all :)
[20:39] <little> loganWHD: How are you installing Firefox?
[20:39] <loganWHD> installed
[20:39] <loganWHD> can't get javascript to run in ff
[20:39] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: I haven't the faintest clue. It freezes while I'm away and it's paused. I checked dmesg, but nothing comes up and there is no output when I run it from console, so I have no way to check...
[20:39] <little> loganWHD: How did you install it?
[20:39] <DaSkreech> Amarok 1.4 ?
[20:39] <loganWHD> i believe it was a download
[20:39] <synaptix> I thought it was flash you couldn't get to run, loganWHD?
[20:39] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: Yep
[20:39] <loganWHD> flash yes
[20:39] <loganWHD> sorry
[20:40] <loganWHD> i got turned around
[20:40] <little> loganWHD: From the Mozilla webpage?
[20:40] <loganWHD> little: yes
[20:40] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: try apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.. flash works for me in the normal firefox/install of kubuntu/ubuntu.. perhaps we need to start at the beginning with the original propblem
[20:40] <little> locanWHD: You might want to try uninstalling it (yet again) and installing it again, but this time use the package manager to install it.
[20:40] <synaptix> anyway, I'm going to advise against the whole silly business of running firefox as root, and I'm not going to facilitate it at all :)
[20:40] <loganWHD> yep yep tried that 100 times
[20:40] <hersoy> !turkish
[20:40] <synaptix> Good luck with your problem :)
[20:40] <loganWHD> ok
[20:40] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: What did taht do? (You did it with Firefox closed right?)
[20:41] <KennethP> DaSkreech: Tnx - I'll go find my glasses...
[20:41] <DaSkreech> KennethP: You drastically needed MSN?
[20:42] <loganWHD> nada it didnt work
[20:42] <loganWHD> and yes ff was closed
[20:42] <loganWHD> i will uninstall it all
[20:42] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: Error?
[20:42] <loganWHD> no error
[20:42] <loganWHD> just wont play flash
[20:42] <DaSkreech> what site?
[20:42] <loganWHD> i will try a reinstall again
[20:42] <loganWHD> pick one
[20:42] <loganWHD> youtube
[20:42] <loganWHD> any
[20:42] <little> loganWHD: This time use the package manager to install Firefox and see if that helps.
[20:43] <loganWHD> i am almost done uninstalling
[20:43] <loganWHD> i will then apt-get it
[20:45] <loganWHD> nada
[20:45] <loganWHD> uninstall
[20:45] <loganWHD> apt-get it
[20:45] <loganWHD> ff works
[20:45] <little> loganWHD: Before you reinstall Flash, do you have a .macromedia directory in your home directory?
[20:45] <loganWHD> then i apt-get flash and get this
[20:45] <loganWHD> download failed
[20:45] <loganWHD> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[20:45] <loganWHD> let me check
[20:45]  * Mamarok is afk
[20:45] <loganWHD> yes i do
[20:46] <little> loganWHD: You might want to try uninstalling Flash, moving that directory somewhere else if it still exists afterward and then reinstalling Flash.
[20:46] <loganWHD> ok
[20:46] <little> loganWHD: If that works, then you can delete the moved directory.
[20:47] <little> I'm dead curious what could be causing this. Firefox and Flash should work "out of the box". I'm thinking something else is behind this.
[20:47] <loganWHD> ok moved
[20:47] <loganWHD> now gonna reinstall
[20:47]  * little crosses fingers
[20:48] <loganWHD> file:///root/.macromedia
[20:48] <loganWHD> wnload failed
[20:48] <loganWHD> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[20:48] <loganWHD> download failed
[20:48] <loganWHD> same error as before
[20:48] <little> hmmm
[20:49] <little> loganWHD: Maybe it has something to do with you running as root. Have you tried creating a new user and installing it as that user and seeing if it works that way?
[20:49] <loganWHD> i can
[20:49] <loganWHD> but i doubt it
[20:49] <loganWHD> but i can try
[20:49] <little> loganWHD: There could be a built-in protection.
[20:50] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: I ran strace on it and I'm getting a lot of "read(3, 0x83f845c, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" sort of deal...
[20:50] <DaSkreech> Guest28949: Don't IRC as root!
[20:50] <DaSkreech> which version of Kubuntu are you on?
[20:51] <loganWHD> bbl
[20:56] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: I'm not sure what's causing the problem, but I had two runaway "kded" processes that seemed to be causing the problem. I killed both of them and amarok starts properly now. However, I'm having an issue with the status icons - they're opening in their own window. How do I fix that?
[20:56] <dr_willis> Gee - all i ever do to get flash going is install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package...
[20:57] <noaXess> !info kcron
[20:59] <DaSkreech> The status?? Oh the Systray icons?
[21:00] <noaXess> i i install kcron i can't use it.. is there no usable kcron for kde4.1.3?
[21:00] <piquadrat> Hi! I'm using the 4.2 beta1 packages. Is it possible to make use of the new kephal multi display support goodness? If I setup my external display with xrandr or grandr to be left of the notebook display instead of mirroring it, plasma is completely borked
[21:00] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean by 'cant use it' perhaps..
[21:00] <piquadrat> kde 4.2 beta1, that is
[21:01] <noaXess> hey dr_willis was up?
[21:01] <noaXess> i can't run it, over console or from kmenu..
[21:01] <dr_willis> very little here.
[21:02] <DaSkreech> noaXess: It's in System settings
[21:03] <noaXess> DaSkreech: where?
[21:03] <noaXess> aha "Task sheduler" :)
[21:04] <noaXess> can i run it in single mode, without going to systemsettings?
[21:05] <DaSkreech> noaXess: Ahm I guess
[21:05] <DaSkreech> you'd have to jigger poke it though
[21:07] <KennethP> DaSkreech: Nahh just noticed that my kids were gone from the list...;-)
[21:08] <DaSkreech> KennethP: It's KDE 4.2 B1 Do you know where your children are ?
[21:09] <KennethP> DaSkreech: They are grown up so I guess that a nope right now...
[21:09] <DaSkreech> KennethP: Panik!! :)
[21:15] <DaSkreech> hi tackat
[21:16] <tackat> hi DaSkreech
[21:17] <DaSkreech> how are you?
[21:18] <Mamarok> huhu tackat :)
[21:18] <tackat> Mamarok: Hi Myriam
[21:20] <wesley> Hi guys are some people here expericing problems with gmail? my girlfriend says she did send a mail and i still dont have it and same happend when i did mail myself with hotmail
[21:21] <DaSkreech> Gmail was spitting errors like crazy for me earlier
[21:22] <wesley> when today ?
[21:23] <DaSkreech> Yes
[21:23] <wesley> because she says to me that she did send it on 16 hour and i still dont have anything, and when i tested it for myself the same no mails, but strangly out works
[21:24] <fale> hi
[21:24] <fale> is the kde4.2b1 compiled completle? because in my apt's opinion it misses a lot of packages
[21:26] <DaSkreech> fale: Which packages?
[21:27] <fale> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/1280120 <-- pretty much everyone
[21:27] <fale> kdelibs, kdebase-runtime
[21:29] <Mamarok> fale: maybe your mirror is not up-to-date
[21:30] <fale> Mamarok: mmm those packages are on a single ppa, it seems to me... isn't it?
[21:30] <Mamarok> true, didn't think of that one
[21:31] <DaSkreech> :-)
[21:31] <EagleScreen> I cannot change the size of Adept 3 fonts
[21:31] <EagleScreen> they are too large for my small screen
[21:32] <JuJuBee> I am having trouble burning some ISO's of movies.  Some burn fine and play fine.  Others burn, but won't play in my dvd player.
[21:32] <fale> DaSkreech: do you have some ideas?
[21:33] <DaSkreech> fale: try kubuntu-desktop instead?
[21:33] <dr_willis> JuJuBee,  try playing the iso files from the hd with vlc or mplayer, as a test of gthe iso file
[21:34] <JuJuBee> dr_willis:  I did and it played fine.
[21:34] <JuJuBee> dr_willis : i burned it twice and both wont play in my player
[21:34] <dr_willis> how were the isos made?
[21:35] <JuJuBee> I downloaded a movie, dvd-decrypter/shrink and burned an iso with k3b.
[21:35] <fale> DaSkreech: is already at the last version
[21:36] <EagleScreen> I think that there is no way to change the font size of some KDE applications in Kubuntu 8.10
[21:36] <EagleScreen> for instance, Adept, gdebi-kde...
[21:36] <fale> DaSkreech: ok, an apt-get -f install found all the libs ;)
[21:36] <DaSkreech> fale: Umm ok so what are you installin then?
[21:37] <fale> DaSkreech: now is installing the kdelibs5 that before was not finding -_-
[21:37] <DaSkreech> EagleScreen: If they are X/Qt apps I think there is always a way just may be more command lineish than you are used to
[21:37] <JuJuBee> dr_willis : any ideas?
[21:37] <dr_willis> JuJuBee,  i tend to use DeVeDe to convert vidoes to dvd format
[21:38] <JuJuBee> K, I will look for it.
[21:39] <EagleScreen> DaSkreech i think that is because they are running as root, and root preferences are separed
[21:41] <dr_willis> Yes.. apps ran by the root user.. will use th root users settings/themes if possible
[21:41] <dr_willis> Ive often set up the root user to use BRIGHT RED colors/themes to make sure i know what apps are getting ran as root
[21:43] <sourcemaker> are you using kde 4.2 b1?
[21:43] <EagleScreen> Policykit will fix that issues, but it is not enought mature for KDE
[21:45] <wesley> DaSkreech now the mails did come in the inbox
[21:45] <fale> sourcemaker: I'm trying to
[21:45]  * fale still has some little dependeces problems
[21:45] <DaSkreech> fale: What failed now?
[21:45] <DaSkreech> wesley: Whoot
[21:46] <fale> DaSkreech: kde-icons-oxygen pkg-kde-tools
[21:46] <DaSkreech>  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb
[21:47] <fale> it works :) and for the pkg-kde-tools?
[21:47] <DaSkreech> try apt-get -f install
[21:47] <joseph> ciao
[21:48] <fale> DaSkreech: ok, fixed
[21:48] <fale> ciao joseph_
[21:48] <fale> DaSkreech: thx :)
[21:48] <DaSkreech> fale: log out and back in
[21:48] <wesley> gmail is today really fucked up
[21:49] <fale> I hope in the good luck ;)
[21:49] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[21:53] <fale> It workis :)
[21:56] <fale> DaSkreech: do you know something about kalzium?
[21:56] <DaSkreech> It's german for calcium?
[21:57] <fale> DaSkreech: nope, is a program of kdedu
[21:57] <BluesKaj> !kalzium
[21:58] <BluesKaj> !info kalzium
[21:58] <fale> BluesKaj: my question was about the 4.2b1 version ;)
[21:58] <fale> DaSkreech: what was the command that you told me before?
[21:59] <fale> for oxygen
[22:04] <DaSkreech> fale: it says install oxygen
[22:05] <DaSkreech> what do you want to know abou the beta version?
[22:05] <fale> DaSkreech: I think I found how ;)
[22:05] <fale> thx
[22:05] <DaSkreech> just install it
[22:13] <Foodcoman> 4.2 Beta 1 nice to see Task Manager Grouping in the works.  buggy on my machine.
[22:19] <DaSkreech> Foodcoman: What is it doing?
[22:22] <macjason0607> guys .. how do i make it so that every application that i open up stays the size that i want it ?
[22:24] <Foodcoman> DaSkreech:  If I set to group 1 row max not to fill task bar, it will group Firefox.  If I switch to desktop 2 and then back, grouping drops.
[22:24] <DaSkreech> macjason0607: Hmm?
[22:25] <DaSkreech> Foodcoman: Oh let me try that
[22:25] <Foodcoman> DaSkreech: Second, If I uncheck the Limit Rows 1 button, it groups again Like a boolean switch.
[22:26] <keres> I accidentally removed my desktop panel, how do i reset it to where it has all the default widgets again?
[22:26] <Foodcoman> DaSkreech: I tend to have a crash playing with it which resets the taskbar and I have to add back the Task Widget.
[22:26] <Foodcoman> keres: Not sure how to get to defaults here.  Maybe somone else.
[22:27] <keres> Anyone? help?
[22:27] <DaSkreech> keres: kquitapp plasma; mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc ~/plasmarc.bkup; plasma
[22:27] <Foodcoman> keres:  If you just need one object back.  Right click, add widget. Scroll to show desktop item and add it.
[22:28] <keres> no, i accidentally removed the whole panel and everything is gone
[22:28] <Foodcoman> keres: Daskreech's tip for sure.
[22:28] <keres> itś not working
[22:29] <Foodcoman> 3 steps, semi is not part of a command line.
[22:29] <DaSkreech> right click and add panel ?
[22:29] <keres> ooohhh
[22:29] <Ch1ppy> Does anyone know what is happening with kopete and msn in the 4.2 beta? When can we expect libmsn to be added and such?
[22:29] <DaSkreech> Ch1ppy: #kubuntu-devel
[22:29] <Ch1ppy> DaSkreech: Thanks :)
[22:29] <DaSkreech> Don't expect an answer right now most people are at UDS
[22:30] <Ch1ppy> Fair enough
[22:31] <keres> http://pastebin.com/m1aa42d56
[22:32] <keres> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m1aa42d56
[22:33] <keres> Someone help
[22:33] <keres> ?
[22:33] <raees> hey guys
[22:34] <fale> DaSkreech: UDS = ?
[22:35] <DaSkreech> Ubuntu Developer Summit
[22:35] <fale> DaSkreech: oh, I see
[22:35] <fale> thx
[22:36] <DaSkreech> keres: that doesn't get you back a default set of settings?
[22:36] <keres> DaSkreech: no
[22:37] <keres> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m1a13862f
[22:37] <DaSkreech> keres: when you quit mv share/config/plasma-appletsrc as well
[22:37] <DaSkreech> so move two files
[22:37] <keres> how?
[22:38] <DaSkreech> keres: kquitapp plasma; mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc ~/plasmarc.bkup;mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc ~/plasma-appletrc.bkup;  plasma
[22:39] <keres> DaSkreech: Thank you!!!!
[22:39] <DaSkreech> That worked?
[22:39] <keres> yes it did :)
[22:40] <Foodcoman> Nice work.
[22:41] <DaSkreech> Linux is so easy :)
[22:41] <keres> lol
[22:41] <moepman> is there a bug with the systray of kde 4.1? some icons arn't shown sometimes, there are only empty squares
[22:42] <keres> How do you change it to where you must double-click to open a file like on ubuntu?
[22:42] <DaSkreech> moepman: Short answer is yes
[22:42]  * Foodcoman kicks DaSkreech in the Knees.
[22:42] <dr_willis> I find linux rather easy
[22:42] <dr_willis> compared to some of the fighting ive had to do with windows
[22:42] <david_> keres: systemsettings->mouse
[22:42]  * Foodcoman kicks dr_willis in the Knees.
[22:42] <moepman> DaSkreech: and any solution?
[22:43] <keres> thank you david_
[22:43] <keres> one more question
[22:43] <keres> I have a Storage Disk D: i have stored my backup data on from before i switched to kubuntu
[22:44] <keres> It has no Operating system on it, but when i plug it in, kubuntu detects it but when i double-click on it within Dolphin, nothing happens
[22:44] <DaSkreech> moepman: Which apps show up as squares?
[22:44] <DaSkreech> Foodcoman: you find it hard? what's hard about it?
[22:44] <keres> When i attempt to open it, it requests my password. I enter my password and no action happens
[22:44] <keres> Any ideas?
[22:45] <Foodcoman> DaSkreech, I love it, just takes awhile to learn all about it.
[22:45] <DaSkreech> keres: USB?
[22:45] <keres> DaSkreech: SATA
[22:45] <DaSkreech> Foodcoman: Yeah but that;s volume
[22:45] <DaSkreech> e-sata?
[22:45] <moepman> DaSkreech: changing.. sometimes kmix, sometimes the battery app but klipper, amarok, ktorrent, too
[22:46] <keres> DaSkreech: Normal SATA. Itś what i have been using for about a year
[22:46] <keres> e-sata???
[22:46] <moepman> external sata
[22:46] <DaSkreech> keres: oh you may just want it in the Fstab then
[22:46] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[22:46] <Foodcoman> DaSkreech: Multimedia Xorg, new hardware, ect.  I have a Thinkpad W500 nearly everything work perfectly other than that an issue with the ATI video.
[22:46] <DaSkreech> moepman: hrrm You have compositing on?
[22:47] <moepman> dunno
[22:47] <DaSkreech> moepman: What video card?
[22:47] <DaSkreech> Foodcoman: Yeah You will learn to hate closed source drivers after a while
[22:47] <moepman> DaSkreech: nvidia
[22:47] <Foodcoman> LOL, Nvidia all the way.  Work provided machine.
[22:48] <moepman> DaSkreech: with restricted drivers
[22:48] <keres> DaSkreech: what is itś usage? is there a generic input that can be used?
[22:49] <DaSkreech> keres: It mounts filesystems at boot time or when called. You can just always have th drive in /mnt for example
[22:49] <moepman> DaSkreech: now kmix is a blue square
[22:49] <DaSkreech> moepman: Might be the drivers. nVidia drivers have some horrible bugs with how KDE 4 uses X to do 2d
[22:50] <DaSkreech> They are working on it so next time you get a driver update that could go away
[22:50] <DaSkreech> 4.2 did a lot fo work to have a smoother system tray as well
[22:50] <keres> DaSkreech: i´m totally lost here. :S
[22:50] <DaSkreech> keres: Did you read the page?
[22:50] <dinx> morning
[22:51] <keres> yes
[22:51] <DaSkreech> keres: where are you lost?
[22:51] <keres> I am lost by what i should type into terminal
[22:52] <keres> [Device] [Mount Point] [File System Type] [Options] [Dump] [Pass]
[22:52] <wesley> when is the next kde update ?
[22:53] <dr_willis> keres,  that looks like a 'format' for a fstab  file config line.. Not a terminal command
[22:54] <dr_willis> keres,  look at /etc/fstab for examples
[22:54] <keres> whatś the text editor for kubuntu?
[22:54] <keres> gedit?
[22:54] <keres> kedit?
[22:54] <dr_willis> gedit  = G = gnome
[22:54] <keres> oh
[22:54] <dr_willis> !editor
[22:54] <dinx> O_O
[22:54] <DaSkreech> fale: Wow I love kalzium excpet for one thing :)
[22:55] <DaSkreech> kate
[22:55] <DaSkreech> hi dinx
[22:55] <dinx> HEY DaSkreech
[22:55] <DaSkreech> wesley: there is a new one each month
[22:55] <dinx> eh caps
[22:56] <DaSkreech> keres: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[22:56] <keres> DaSkreech: what do i change this line to?
[22:56] <DaSkreech> pastebin it
[22:56] <keres> yeah
[22:56] <fale> DaSkreech: except what?
[22:56] <DaSkreech> fale: I can't get new Chemical Structures
[22:57] <keres> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m5c7b9a76
[22:58] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[22:58] <keres> what?
[22:58] <fale> DaSkreech: the service is available... probably someone will start to upload them soon
[22:58] <DaSkreech> keres: can you type sudo fdisk -l into a terminal and pastebin that output ?
[22:58] <DaSkreech> fale: They are there. I can't download them though
[22:59] <dinx> DaSkreech: whats he trying to do ? mount root ?
[22:59] <keres> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m22ecae00
[22:59] <DaSkreech> dinx: Mount something else
[23:00] <DaSkreech> keres: trying to mount a NTFS drive?
[23:00] <keres> Yes
[23:00] <dinx> ah k
[23:00] <keres> DaSkreech: without formatting
[23:00] <DaSkreech> keres: certainly ;-)
[23:00] <fale> DaSkreech: than it will be fixed in 4.2b2 ;)
[23:00] <keres> :)
[23:01] <DaSkreech> fale: Heh don't be sure
[23:01] <DaSkreech> fale: Was it even reported is the first thing to check
[23:01] <DaSkreech> keres: Where would you want it? Or it doesn't matter to you?
[23:01] <keres> Doesn matter
[23:02] <DaSkreech> keres: sudo mkdir /mnt/WindowsDrive
[23:02] <Foodcoman> Im coming up with many unknow/missing widgets after my upgrade.  Expected?
[23:02] <bob_> howdy - can I mount an NTFS partition? If so how? Thanks!
[23:02] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/WindowsDrive
[23:02] <Foodcoman> Pastebin being some.
[23:03] <DaSkreech> bob_: Yes! just mount it :)
[23:03] <bob_> DaSkreech: If so how? :)
[23:03] <DaSkreech> Foodcoman: possibly if they changed out the ones that you have
[23:03] <DaSkreech> bob_: Want a quick mount or something more permanent?
[23:03] <keres> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m7bb78b1d
[23:04] <bob_> DaSkreech: Permanent would be great - Dolphin shows the physical drive - but won't let me mount for some reason - I think the drive wasn't shut down properly last time it was accessed via Windows (I think that may have something to do with it)
[23:04] <dr_willis> That can have EVERYTHING to do with it
[23:05] <wesley> When will you be able to defram harddrives in kubuntu?
[23:05]  * DaSkreech looks up defram
[23:05] <genii> wesley: You mean windows partitions?
[23:06] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[23:06] <bob_> wonder if i'll have to make some kind of windows live cd first
[23:06] <DaSkreech> bob_, keres: you are in the same boat
[23:07] <wesley> genii and ext3 and go on
[23:07] <wesley> i heard on ext4 there´s going be a deframent tool
[23:07] <keres> DaSkreech: any suggestions?
[23:07] <keres>  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/WindowsDrive -o force ?
[23:07] <genii> wesley: ext2/3 filesystems do not require defragging, only Windows filesystems do, like ntfs or fat
[23:07] <wesley> genii thats not true
[23:07] <DaSkreech> keres: yeah if you don't have Windows
[23:08] <keres> On the partition?
[23:08] <keres> There is no OS on the partitiion, just a bunch of data
[23:08] <wesley> i have read it that in fact a ext3 can be framented also
[23:08] <DaSkreech> wesley: They can be defragged but they don't really require it
[23:08] <genii> wesley: The amount of fragmentation which occurs on ext2/3 is negligable
[23:08] <DaSkreech> keres: If you don't have WIndows. Windows marked the drive as Dirty so Windows would have to clean it
[23:09] <DaSkreech> you can use the -o force to mount it anyway
[23:09] <keres> and that would work?
[23:09] <keres> DaSkreech: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/WindowsDrive -o force?
[23:09] <DaSkreech> Yes
[23:09] <bob_> keres: its not sda1 - how would i figure out which device that physical drive is?
[23:09] <wesley> but you admit linux is lacking a deframent tool?
[23:09] <keres> mount: only root can do that
[23:09] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[23:10] <dr_willis> wesley,  there are ext2/3 defrag gools.
[23:10] <RobertLJ> If I wanted to develop KDE4 based applications is there any particular dependencies that I would need to apt-get ?
[23:10] <dr_willis> wesley,  they are just normally never needed
[23:10] <bob_> keres: i did sudo mount
[23:10] <keres> i am a linux noob
[23:10] <wesley> dr_willis thats true but what about external ntsf ?
[23:10] <dr_willis> keres,  rember to do 'system type tasks' you must do so as root.. normally with 'sudo' befor a command
[23:11] <dr_willis> wesley,  there are various ntfs tools in  some packages.
[23:11] <DaSkreech> RobertLJ: the kde-dev packages?
[23:11] <keres> Woohoo! it works!
[23:11] <DaSkreech> keres: I know :)
[23:11] <keres> DaSkreech: Thank you so much
[23:11] <wesley> dr_willis so i can defrag it from within linux ?
[23:12] <DaSkreech> keres: You can set that up to mount eveerytime you boot if you like
[23:12] <DaSkreech> bob_: Followed that?
[23:12] <RobertLJ> DaSkreech: Thanks!!!
[23:12] <keres> DaSkreech: how?
[23:12] <dr_willis> wesley,  check the ntfs tools packages and see what they have. Ive never done so. THere are ntfs-scan/fix tools  may be others.
[23:12] <DaSkreech> RobertLJ: Sure. You may want to hang out in #kde-cafe to learn about KDE development. It's like #kde-devel lite
[23:12] <DaSkreech> keres: did you open kate ?
[23:13] <keres> Which file?
[23:13] <dr_willis> !info ntfsprogs
[23:14] <wesley> Decrypt is not same as defrag?
[23:14] <DaSkreech> keres: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[23:14] <keres> Daskreech: so it won´t mount on every good?
[23:14] <bob_> DaSkreech: I tried  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windowsdrive -o force   - but its not sda1, and i'm not sure which device that hdd actually is
[23:14] <dr_willis> bob_,  sudo fdisk -l, and look to see what ones are what
[23:14] <DaSkreech> keres: What?
[23:15] <bob_> dr_willis: ahh ok
[23:15] <DaSkreech> bob_: sudo fdisk -l
[23:15] <DaSkreech> Argh
[23:15] <keres> DaSkreech: will the device mount every time i boot up my pc or do i need to edit fstab?
[23:15] <DaSkreech> keres: edit fstab
[23:15] <bob_> sdb1 :)  - i think
[23:15] <keres> how shall i edit it?
[23:16] <DaSkreech> keres: alt+f2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[23:16] <DaSkreech> now we want the UUID so run blkid I think
[23:16] <DaSkreech> !uuid
[23:16] <DaSkreech> sudo blkid
[23:16] <bob_> hmm - how can i pastebin? (sorry)
[23:17] <bob_> failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windowsdrive
[23:17] <keres> bob_: pastebin.com
[23:17] <keres> DaSkreech: sudo blkid
[23:17] <keres> oops
[23:17] <dr_willis> install the pastebinit command and use that.
[23:17] <keres> DaSkreech: /dev/sda1: UUID="B2284CC7284C8BF3" LABEL="Storage Disk" TYPE="ntfs"
[23:18] <cuznt> my linksys cd setup is not kde friendly... do i really need the thing
[23:18] <dr_willis> linksys cd setup ?
[23:18] <bob_> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/d445a4d57
[23:18] <cuznt> it is windoz
[23:19] <DaSkreech> keres: copy the line thats in fstab and put it on the second line
[23:19] <RurouniJones> cuznt: I hightly doubt it
[23:19] <DaSkreech> change the long string to the one you just got
[23:19] <RurouniJones> most linksys routers use the web-browser to administer it
[23:19] <DaSkreech> ext3 to ntfs-3g and /  (at the end of the long string) to /mnt/WindowsDrive
[23:20] <keres> DaSkreech: my current string is UUID=976abf5f-93f5-4166-beae-23cf068ea57b /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[23:20] <DaSkreech> cuznt: no
[23:20] <cuznt> you highly doubt what? that i need the cd?
[23:20] <DaSkreech> cuznt: right
[23:21] <keres> DaSkreech: UUID=976abf5f-93f5-4166-beae-23cf068ea57b /               ntfs-3g     /mnt/WindowsDrive 0       1
[23:21] <keres> is this right?
[23:21] <bob_> DaSkreech: I have ntfs-3g in there
[23:21] <cuznt> danks
[23:21] <bob_> oops maybe that was directed to keres
[23:21] <DaSkreech> keres: no
[23:21] <keres> DaSkreech: change it to what then?
[23:22] <DaSkreech> the 976ab....a57b should be B2284CC7284C8BF3
[23:22] <keres> why b2284?
[23:22] <keres> DaSkreech: B2284CC7284C8BF3 /               ntfs-3g     /mnt/WindowsDrive 0       1
[23:22] <keres> that?
[23:23] <bob_> DaSkreech: did you see this? http://pastebin.com/d445a4d57
[23:23] <Roland123> how to install kde 3.5 next to my 4.1 (kubuntu 8.10)
[23:23] <wesley> not XD
[23:23] <DaSkreech> keres: no
[23:23] <keres> arrggg
[23:24] <wesley> kde 3.5 is not in 8.10
[23:24] <DaSkreech> see at the end of the B22 tere is a / ?
[23:24] <keres> Yes
[23:24] <DaSkreech> bob_: yeah it's sdb1
[23:24] <keres> Remove the slash?
[23:24] <DaSkreech> keres: that should be /mnt/WindowsDrive
[23:25] <bob_> DaSkreech: correct, but its failing to mount :(
[23:25] <DaSkreech> put that there and take out the other one
[23:25] <DaSkreech> bob_: What command are you using?
[23:25] <dr_willis> Time to show us the whole line/command you are using.
[23:25] <keres> DaSkreech: B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive               ntfs-3g      0       1
[23:25] <dr_willis> thats incorrect line
[23:25] <DaSkreech> Roland123: You need an external repo
[23:25] <keres> What should it be then?
[23:25] <DaSkreech> keres: Yay!!
[23:25] <dr_willis> UUID=#############  /               ntfs-3g     /mnt/WindowsDrive 0       1
[23:25] <bob_> DaSkreech: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windowsdrive -o force
[23:25] <keres> Daskreech: did i get it right?
[23:26] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah sorry UUID=
[23:26] <Roland123> DaSkreech: where can i find one?
[23:26] <bob_> DaSkreech: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windowsdrive: No such file or directory
[23:26] <keres> UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive               ntfs-3g      0       1 ?
[23:26] <dr_willis> I mount mine based on LABEL='MyDrive'
[23:26] <DaSkreech> bob_: You don't have that dir :)
[23:26] <dr_willis> :)
[23:26] <dr_willis> keres,  you want it in /mnt/ or /media/ ?
[23:26] <DaSkreech> bob_: sudo mkdir /mnt/windowsdrive
[23:26] <DaSkreech> then press up and run the mount command again
[23:26] <keres> dr_willis: whatever works the best
[23:26] <bob_> DaSkreech: nice ok :)
[23:26] <keres> i don´t care
[23:27] <dr_willis>  /media/ us ubuntu standard. not /mnt/
[23:27] <keres> media then
[23:27] <DaSkreech> keres: They both work. Media is for drives that are temporary mnt is for drives that you always expect to be there
[23:27] <DaSkreech> as per FHS
[23:27] <Roland123> DaSkreech: i think i found it
[23:27] <keres> this is a perm mount
[23:27] <dr_willis> Ubuntu dosent seem to follow that   standard however.
[23:27] <DaSkreech> Roland123: Be careful some of them are badly packaged
[23:28] <DaSkreech> They will seriously mess up your system
[23:28] <dr_willis> then again i got /mnt/ linked to /media/ :)
[23:28] <bob_> DaSkreech: AH HA, I see it! Thanks :) :)
[23:28] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: I do :)
[23:28] <bob_> DaSkreech: I owe you a beer
[23:28] <DaSkreech> bob_: There you go it will disappear on rebot though
[23:28] <keres> bob_: we will kill him with alcohol poisoning :D
[23:28] <keres> out of all the beer i owe him
[23:29] <bob_> DaSkreech: whats the perm solution? add it to some kind of startup script?
[23:29] <keres> DaSkreech: could you pastebin me the correct syntax of what fstab should be?
[23:29] <keres> DaSkreech: this is my current syntax http://pastebin.com/me96cbc3
[23:30] <ubuntu__> hello?
[23:30] <ubuntu__> Anyone here?
[23:30] <keres> yeah?
[23:30] <dr_willis> No. :)
[23:31] <keres> very active atm.
[23:31]  * genii hides
[23:31] <bomber_> me neither
[23:31] <keres> lol
[23:31] <bob_> hi ubunto_ what can i help you with:) i can mount a drive now
[23:31] <DaSkreech> !hi | ubuntu__
[23:31] <ubuntu__> Hate to bother anyone, but I'm in sort of a jam.
[23:31]  * DaSkreech sneaks out all the coffee pots
[23:31] <ubuntu__> (i'd come up witha  cooler name, but I just started useing knoversation).
[23:31] <keres> ubuntu__: thatś the joy of #kubuntu
[23:31] <Roland123> DaSkreech: i hope it won''t mess it up.. but if it does... i'll just switch back to gnome prbly
[23:32] <ubuntu__> Problems are the joy?
[23:32] <keres> DaSkreech: can i private message you?
[23:32] <keres> more joyful than windows.
[23:32] <DaSkreech> Roland123: What repo are you using?
[23:32] <ubuntu__> I've had absolutely no problems with the 32 bit hardy, on a laptop.
[23:32] <DaSkreech> keres: You are missing something like defaults right after ntfs-3g
[23:32] <keres> UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive               ntfs-3g      0       1
[23:33] <keres> 0 1
[23:33] <ubuntu__> on this desktop (64 bit, if it matters) has been nothing but trouble.
[23:33] <keres> UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive ntfs-3g 0 1
[23:33] <DaSkreech> just ntfs-3g<space>defaults<space>0 1 should be ok
[23:33] <keres> o
[23:33] <DaSkreech> bob_: run sudo blkid
[23:33] <Roland123> DaSkreech: could of answered to you faster.. but got another random gui freeze.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[23:34] <ubuntu__> The packags list eventually got roached, and I'm trying to do a fresh start with 8.10
[23:34] <keres> DaSkreech: would not let me save
[23:34] <keres> Read only.
[23:34] <ubuntu__> heres the problem: whenever I commit changes to the hard drive, the partitioner freezes.
[23:34] <DaSkreech> keres:
[23:34] <keres> ?
[23:34] <DaSkreech> Umm save in your home directory then
[23:35] <cruegge> hi. how do i trust root certificates in kleopatra? i've imported them correctly, but they're listed as "not trusted" and i can't find a way to change that.
[23:35] <keres> fstab saved to /home/
[23:35] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: what are you using?
[23:35] <goetz> hi
[23:35] <bob_> DaSkreech: I ran sudo blkid - you need something from that?
[23:35] <keres> DaSkreech: any additional paremeters to make kubuntu use /home/fstab?
[23:35] <DaSkreech> keres: backup the one in /etc then sudo mv from home to /etc
[23:35] <ubuntu__> Any insights?  Or am I just left out to dry-and go get an old *windows* hard drive and try to boot from that?
[23:35] <keres> how do i back it up?
[23:35] <ubuntu__> (hope that ticks off some partisans :)
[23:35] <goetz> How is the normal process to see windows shared folders from Kubuntu?
[23:36] <dr_willis> use the file manager to browse the network.. see the machine/shares...
[23:36] <ubuntu__> your other partitions will look like other hard drives, right?
[23:36] <DaSkreech> keres: cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.orig
[23:36] <DaSkreech> bob_: yes
[23:36] <ubuntu__> so go to 'my computer'.  I'd be careful though-it might not like the file system.
[23:37] <DaSkreech> goetz: type smb:/ in konqueror/dolphin
[23:37] <ubuntu__> Anyone have trouble with the installer?
[23:37] <goetz> dr_willis: I have used this way, but the is nothing.. And the are shared folders. I remember in Ubuntu the was a dialog to install some packages.
[23:37] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: What are you using to parittion ?
[23:37] <keres> DaSkreech: sudo mv /home/fstab /etc/
[23:37] <keres> ?
[23:37] <ubuntu__> The live CD's partition thing.
[23:37] <DaSkreech> keres: you did the backup Then yes
[23:38] <keres> mv: cannot stat `/home/fstab': No such file or directory
[23:38] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: on the live cd install Gparted and do it explicitly
[23:38] <goetz> DaSkreech: thanks, the message is: "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall."
[23:38] <dr_willis> goetz,  you need stff installed for windows to see shares on the LINUX box.. but not for linux to see shares on the windows box.
[23:38] <DaSkreech> keres: sudo mv ~/fstab /etc
[23:38] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: techincally you need samba :)
[23:39] <dr_willis> goetz,  ive also noticed lately that sme times gnome and kde file managers dont show allways the windows shares
[23:39] <ubuntu__> I'm running "live" (in memory) right now.  So I run "Gparted" and do what?
[23:39] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  not for linux to see the windows shares from what ive seen.
[23:39] <bob_> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/d3cdba0b6
[23:39] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  since the kde/gnome file managers sort of
[23:39] <dr_willis> browse the network.
[23:39] <keres> DaSkreech: it now reads: UUID=B2284CC7284C8BF3 /mnt/WindowsDrive               ntfs-3g defaults      0       1
[23:39] <keres> just making sure, that correct?
[23:39] <ubuntu__> If I ever write something useful, it'll be a file maniger without bells and whistles.
[23:39] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Edit the hard drive to what you want it to be. You can ask with help on that here as well if yu like
[23:40] <DaSkreech> keres: yes
[23:40] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  thers dozens of file managers out like that. :)
[23:40] <keres> DaSkreech: thank you so much
[23:40] <keres> iou
[23:40] <DaSkreech> My bill is in the post
[23:40] <DaSkreech> bob_: Ok see what keres just wrote ?
[23:41] <DaSkreech> bob_: type alt+F2 -> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[23:41] <ubuntu__> Assume I'm a newbie: I enter the host name, my name, etc, and commit to changes.
[23:42] <ubuntu__> after the hard drive's current partition is destroyed, it up and gives up, freezeing the machine 'till I hit power.
[23:42] <goetz> dr_willis: hmm, that is straing. So I have dont have to install anything? But in ubuntu I remember there came a dialok saying to install something for linux and windows networks
[23:42] <ubuntu__> Same problem with both the 8.10 and 8.06 discs.
[23:43] <bob_> DaSkreech: Ahh, I think I get it
[23:43] <dr_willis> goetz,  last i looked. to set up a SHARE on the ubuntu box.. It will ask/install the samba packages.. to just VIEW the shares on a remote box.. it did not need to install anything.
[23:44] <DaSkreech> bob_: you need to change the UUID to the one you have for sdb1 and make sure the caps for /mnt/windowsdrive is the smae as yours
[23:44] <bob_> ook..
[23:44] <ubuntu__> I have this cousen, he has two machines with vista... he was compareing his shiny vista-running laptop to this decade old one I had with kubuntu...
[23:44] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Hmm run it from the command line and see if it spits any errors
[23:45] <ubuntu__> I just laughed and said "do you know how fast that would go if it didn't have one leg behind it's back?
[23:45] <ubuntu__> or something less eloquent to that effect.
[23:45] <goetz> dr_willis: thanks for you help, I will search in the web more to see what could be, maybe a bug..
[23:45] <ubuntu__> wait, what do I run from the command line?
[23:46] <dr_willis> goetz,  check the /etc/smb.conf - be sure you are in the same workgroups
[23:46] <ubuntu__> "Install kubuntu"
[23:46] <ubuntu__> ?
[23:46]  * dr_willis missed ubuntu__ 's original question
[23:47] <ubuntu__> Oh, its just that I keep trying to install kubuntu 8.10 or 8.06 on this machine, and whenever I commit changes to the hard drive, it freezes.
[23:47] <goetz> dr_willis: good idea! btw, it is /etc/samba/smb.conf the folder :)
[23:47] <bob_> DaSkreech: do i need anything under defaults?
[23:47] <dr_willis>  /etc/samba/   directory... smb.conf the config file
[23:48] <ubuntu__> sort of a pain considereing that on the first try, it whiped out the other system (grub gives me "error 17" and hangs)
[23:48] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  is linux going to be the only OS on the thing?
[23:48] <goetz> dr_willis: It is in WORKGROUP but it my case it should be MSHOME I think, thanks, maybe that is the problem
[23:48] <dr_willis> goetz,  Yep.. been there, done that...
[23:49] <ubuntu__> Yeah.  It was before-I was useing 8.06, but the package list became cruftier and cruftier.
[23:49] <genii> 8.06?
[23:49] <macjason0607> besides devde what app is good for converting a avi to a mpeg
[23:49] <goetz> dr_willis: Is there a GUI to change the workgroup in Kubuntu/KDE? and not with the config file?
[23:50] <dr_willis> goetz,  no idea.. by the time i would look for a gui. I would have th file edited and saved
[23:50] <ubuntu__> I think this kind of thing is reason eneough to just learn perl and hack the #$% together yourself.
[23:50] <Dougwiser> I use tovid to decode and burn video
[23:51] <genii> !info system-config-samba
[23:51] <ubuntu__> Know what would be funny?  An entire distro where everything except the kernel is written in intercal.
[23:51] <ubuntu__> With source & docs included.
[23:52]  * genii suddenly worries that Hurd is written in intercal!
[23:53] <ubuntu__> With the amount of time it's taken, I sometimes think there is a paper-and-pencil turing machine that they are programing in brainfunk, and thats the glorious free software kernel.
[23:53] <DaSkreech> bob_: defaults :)
[23:54] <bob_> DaSkreech: lol OK
[23:54] <ubuntu__> Was it dumb to try to start fresh with a newer version rather then seeking help for the flakeyness of the old setup?
[23:54] <bob_> DaSkreech: do i put None or leave blank?
[23:55] <DaSkreech> just put the word defaults
[23:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu__ you may want to try the alternative installer cd.. it almos sounds like a hardware issue with the drive howeer.
[23:55] <tarvid> Kubuntu Intrepid boots to kernel panic after upgrade
[23:55] <ubuntu__> I would think so-except it worked just fine the old way.
[23:55] <bob_> DaSkreech: nice - then 0 0
[23:55] <DaSkreech> sure
[23:56] <ubuntu__> I though it might be shakeing, so I put additionsl screws in.
[23:56] <ubuntu__> *additional
[23:56] <tarvid> Kubuntu Intrepid boot to recovery stumbles but doesn't boot.
[23:56] <bob_> DaSkreech: outstanding - guess i'll have to reboot to test
[23:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  check the cables for cut wires/loose connections also.. and dust out the box. :P)  while you are at it...
[23:56] <tarvid> Fresh install along side boots fine and old sda5 partition mounts.
[23:56] <jpds> 3~
[23:56] <ubuntu__> I had it open a short while ago to check that kinda thing.  Its fine.
[23:57] <tarvid> Any wizardry that might heal the boot logic on sda5
[23:57] <dr_willis> I had an ide cable with a LITTLE bitty cut.. from a sharp edge on the case.. that cut one wire at the edge...
[23:57] <dr_willis> took me forever to find that.
[23:57] <ubuntu__> I have an old IDE drive (with a vintage win 98 system on it) that I could fine.
[23:57] <ubuntu__> *find
[23:57] <ubuntu__> This HD, however, has a SATA cable with thick, brightly covered insulation.  I checked it.
[23:57] <DaSkreech> bob_: no
[23:57] <DaSkreech> you can do a sudo mount -a
[23:58] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  so its an ide+sata drives in the box.. Try as a test.. unplugging the ide.?
[23:58] <ubuntu__> I'm wondering about the fundimental idea of kubuntu
[23:58] <ubuntu__> why have special kde programs?  Can't we all just write portable programs?
[23:58] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Like xclock?
[23:58] <dr_willis> 'portable programs' have been tried again and again  over the years.. and never takes off.
[23:59] <goetz> Which is the normal transfer rate of a home network? With the commun cabels and switch.
[23:59] <dr_willis> I seem to recall a 'java os' ages ago.
[23:59] <ubuntu__> Firefox.
[23:59] <ubuntu__> Amarok.
[23:59] <ubuntu__> Openoffice
[23:59] <dr_willis> for most of those - it boils down to what 'widget set/libs' the programer perfers