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rhpot1991_aegis: sure it does, it all depends what your needs are01:21
_aegisI may try it anyway... who knows, maybe if I get what I need OTA I'll end up ditching FioS TV01:26
_aegisHave any of you used the WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual Tuner PCI Express TV tuner with MythButntu?  Is that the card to go with?  I'd like to watch one channel and record another (HD) channel at the same time...  (multiple channels would be great, but I think I need to get multiple cards).01:28
_aegisI'd like to build a backend with that tuner card in it...01:29
rhpot1991_aegis: its generally hard to get info on specific hardware here unless its very very popular, your best bet is to check the following places:01:33
rhpot1991!forum01:33
ZinnThe Mythbuntu forum is located at: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30101:33
rhpot1991wiki.mythtv.org01:33
rhpot1991http://www.linuxtv.org/01:33
_aegisthanks!01:34
ron_oI don't know where else to ask this question. I don't have mythtv yet, but am working up to it. Right now all I want to do is connect my pc to my TVs HDMI port and use it as a monitor.01:38
ron_ohowever, I'm a bit confused to how this will work. It's in another room.01:39
heyheyheyis there a bug in 8.10 with mythtv compiling?01:39
ron_oreally, not a monitor but just play videos on it.01:39
ron_ohow can I send video for it to be seen on it?01:39
ron_omy video card should be able to both handle my vga monitor and hdmi output, but I'm not sure about this at the moment.01:40
heyheyheywell do u have nvidia01:41
ron_oyah. :)01:42
heyheyheyuse nvidia -settings01:42
ron_oI'll look into it. I just bought this mobo, yah it's built in.01:42
heyheyheyyeap01:43
ron_oit' Nvidie Geforce 7100/ nforce 630i01:43
ron_oNvidea.01:43
ron_oia*01:43
heyheyheyi have same one01:43
ron_owow.01:43
ron_oyes.. :) really? mini-atx board?01:43
heyheyheyyes01:43
ron_othe p5n-em hdmi?01:43
ron_oI didn't care for being mini, my other mobos crashed on me. :/ intel sh*ts..01:44
ron_oI'll never buy an intel again. Just got this one set up.01:44
heyheyheyyes01:44
ron_oheyheyhey, would it be inappropriate if I asked you a question about this board?01:48
heyheyheyshoot01:50
ron_oram, have vs1gb667d2 ... have two 1GB DIMMs. installed to DIMM 2 & 3. in BIOS said 2GB installed 859MB recognized.01:51
ron_oI took out DIMM3 after I had some booting problems. Don't know if that was the case. .01:52
ron_oso have only DIMM2 with 1GB and it still says the same about the RAM.01:52
heyheyheyswitch them01:52
heyheyheyand change them in bios to 40001:53
heyheyheymhz01:53
heyheyhey800 mhz01:53
ron_oswitch as in 2 goes to 3?01:54
ron_othink that might be it?01:54
ron_otry 400MHz first then 800mhz?01:54
heyheyheyi have in mine 1and 201:54
heyheyheyit 800 mhz not 40001:54
ron_obut the book says different and so does this sheet.01:55
ron_othanks. That's enough info for me to get started.01:55
heyheyheyokay01:55
ron_ono hand holding in linux. :)01:55
rhpot1991ron_o: on some boards you need to enable hdmi in the bios, then you should be able to use it connected to your tv as if your tv was a monitor02:05
rhpot1991I believe most will only output through one vga or hdmi and not both at the same time02:05
ron_orhpot1991, most likely that's the way it is here too, but I'll look and see. I think it says  in my manual that it won't DVI and HDMI at the same time.02:06
ron_odoesn't say anything about VGA though. :)02:06
heyheyheyuse nvidia settings02:07
heyheyheyit will work02:07
ron_oand if that doesn't work then I'll get another Video card.02:07
ron_oheyheyhey, I'm looking but am getting errors ..02:07
ron_oseeing now what's up.02:07
rhpot1991check your bios first02:08
rhpot1991if its not enabled the software wont be able to do anythign02:08
rhpot1991also I  think hdmi normally overscans a little, so dvi/vga work easier/better if you can use them02:09
_aegisI wish they had build lists for known working systems for mythbuntu02:15
heyheyheyaegis i only know 8.0402:25
heyheyheythat works02:25
heyheyhey8.10 has way too many bugs02:25
rhpot1991_laptop8.10 has some hardware issues, but it works well for many people02:32
rhpot1991_laptopif you have newer hardware then you definitely want 8.10, it supports a lot more tuners by default02:32
heyheyheywell tried to recompile mythtv02:32
heyheyheyand get errors02:33
heyheyheyBuild-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied02:33
rhpot1991_laptopheyheyhey: did you apt-get build-dep mythtv?02:36
heyheyheyyeap02:36
rhpot1991_laptopwhat dependencies are missing?02:36
heyheyheysays it needs liblame002:37
heyheyheyand then says the package is obsoutel02:37
heyheyheyreplaced by liblamemp302:37
heyheyheyso i installed that02:37
heyheyheythen still says missing it02:38
heyheyheyso it wouldn't work02:38
heyheyheyso i decided to reinstall 8.0402:39
heyheyheyit will only take 20 mins to get it back up02:39
heyheyheyyou can even time it02:40
rhpot1991_laptopwhat is the point of all of this though?02:43
heyheyheywell 8.04 is stable for na02:47
ron_oI got some serious problems here.03:13
ron_omy nvidia gpu can't or won't recognize my monitor.03:13
ron_oso every time I restart my computer I have to manually set my monitors configs..03:13
ron_obut nvidia-settings complains that nvidia-xconfig isn't set properly.. so round and round I go re-running nvidia-xconfig and restarting my computer.03:15
ron_oany solutions?03:15
rhpot1992ron_o: by default it tries to detect the settings from your TV/monitor03:26
rhpot1992though this does not always work on everything, and having a bad/too long/etc cable can cause issues as well03:27
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ron_oI noticed that... but it's not in it's system. :/03:27
kr00lCan i get Mythbuntu help?04:53
rhpot1991!ask04:54
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kr00lI have a Hauppauge 150 and Mythbuntu 8.10 installed but i can't get the tv tuner to work. Any suggestions?04:56
hadskr00l: Ask a specific question and add as many details as you can about what you are doing, what happens when you do it etc. This will increase your chances of getting help.05:05
kr00lbut i'm not a linux guru. Mythbuntu can detect my card but It doesn't enable the card. In system info it says TV tuner 1 unavailable.05:09
BandChey tgm4883_laptop05:57
tgm4883_laptophi05:57
BandCquick question: when i click on "watch tv" the screen flcikers a moment and nothing happens. i still see the main menu. i selected a recording directory /home/mythtv and set its permissions to mythtv:mythtv 775. what can be the probme?05:58
BandCproblem05:58
DaAndeim building my gf a htpc for christmas does anyone wanna help me pickout the parts for one around $50006:14
DaAndelike what type of tuner should i get06:15
DaAndeI have 2GB of OCZ gold edition DDR2 laying around06:17
DaAndeto use on it06:18
ron_omake sure your DDR2 works with your new mobo.06:20
DaAndeya06:20
ron_obut $500 ain't very much, to be honest06:20
DaAndewell its for my gf06:21
ron_otuner being around $120 and vid card around $100.. that's almost half there.06:21
DaAndevid card?06:21
ron_olook at this: p5n-em hdmi06:21
ron_ovideo card.06:22
DaAndeya i know cant I use onboard06:22
ron_oDaAnde, yah, just mentioned one.06:22
ron_obut most mobos don't have one onboard you know.06:22
rhpot1991you can get something for ~500, I built my MBE for that including an antec fusion case (but already had some hard drives)06:22
DaAndeI am planning on putting in a 500GB hardrive06:23
ron_oyah, but it's tight.06:23
DaAndearound06:23
ron_overy tight.06:23
ron_osome guy used a old Tivo box for his.06:23
DaAndeanyways I dont even know if she will use this to record live tv06:23
DaAndeI know forsure shell want me to fill the harddrive with divx movies06:24
ron_olet's see.06:24
ron_op5n-em hdmi mobo ~ $8006:25
ron_o500GB HD ~ $8006:25
ron_o2GB RAM ~ $5006:25
ron_ocpu?06:25
ron_ocore2duo?06:25
DaAndeI dont know what I need06:25
ron_othe pentium Ds run hot.06:25
Chaorainhey where do I copy media files from my flash drive?06:26
ChaorainI'm a newb06:26
DaAndehttp://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31724&vpn=M3A78-EM&manufacture=ASUS06:26
DaAndewhat about that06:26
ChaorainI don't know where is appropriate06:26
ron_oChaorain, you gotta mount it first06:26
ChaorainI don't see how to create a new folder06:27
Chaorainit is mounted but I want the files on the Mythbuntu hard drive06:27
ron_oDaAnde, I think that's too expensive for your budget.06:28
DaAndeMOBO $114, Proc Phenom X3 for $131 or AMD 64 X2 5200+ for $9106:29
ron_ohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681313132406:29
ChaorainDo I need to be loged in as root or something to make folders?06:30
rhpot1991most people still prefer nvidia over ati for these sorts of things06:30
ron_oDaAnde, make sure you get Nvidia chipset.06:30
ron_oati isn't well supported with linux.06:30
rhpot1991especially if you can get something that will work with the VPDAU api in the future06:31
DaAndeshe has an old 60" tube tv06:32
DaAndeu know those beasts06:32
DaAndethose big fucking square things06:32
DaAndeI gotta checkout what inputs it has on it06:32
ron_oDaAnde, how are you going to connect it to that TV?06:32
DaAndethats what I need to see06:32
DaAndeSVideo probably06:32
ron_oSVideo? maybe not.06:32
ron_oit depends how old it is.06:32
DaAndei know06:33
DaAndeI need to check it out06:33
ron_omight just have CATV.06:33
Chaorainhow do I make folders on the hard drive? right clicking doesnot work06:33
ron_omust be Mistubishi.06:33
DaAndeand then im screwed eh06:33
Chaorainis there a cammand line option?06:33
Chaorainer06:33
rhpot1991mkdir06:33
Chaoraincommand06:33
Chaorainty06:33
ron_othose old mitsubishis are still some of the best TVs around, however.06:33
Chaorainwhere should I put it?06:33
ron_omkdir in root.06:34
Chaorainok thanks06:34
Chaorainany clue why vlc plays dvds but mythtv does not?06:34
ron_oyou mean DVDs from the ROM drive?06:36
Chaorainyes06:36
Chaorainspecificaly Death Noted V106:36
rhpot1991did you install the medibuntu plugins from MCC?06:36
ChaorainI think so06:37
ron_oI don't have mythtv installed and never haave, but you must somehow point mythtv to your DVD drive. How, I don't konw. :)06:37
Chaorainwhere is MCC?06:37
Chaorainnvm06:37
Chaorainfound it06:37
rhpot1991Chaorain: do dpkg -l libdvdcss2 |grep ^ii06:37
Chaorainnow what06:38
rhpot1991what did it return?06:39
Chaorainii libdvdcss2 Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries06:40
rhpot1991ok good06:40
rhpot1991might just be that dvd does something funky, try some others06:40
Chaorainok06:41
Chaorainone sec06:41
Chaorainok06:42
Chaorainmy other dvd worked06:42
Chaorainwhy didn't I think of that06:42
Chaorainthats the third time I've had that problem06:42
Chaorainwait no sound06:42
ChaorainIts across the whole system not just myth tv06:44
Chaorainah it was just that drive06:45
ChaorainThanks for the help06:46
Chaoraingtg to bed bye06:46
MythbuntuGuest02hello?07:42
MythbuntuGuest02wondering if anyone here can answer a channels question regarding mythbuntu07:43
hads!ask07:46
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MythbuntuGuest02ok07:50
MythbuntuGuest02I live in canada and i set up mythbuntu to scan for channels07:50
MythbuntuGuest02using all the us based guides07:51
MythbuntuGuest02i still cannot pull down any channels07:51
MythbuntuGuest02is there anything for us canucks to use?07:51
FisherPriceHey, I've got Mythbuntu 8.04, is it worth the upgrade to 8.10?08:46
lagaFisherPrice: "never touch a running system" :)08:46
lagaif you do upgrade, make sure to get a full backup just in case08:46
FisherPriceyeah that's what i thought myself, but I just wonder if it's worth it... bug fixes and what not08:47
lagadepends. is something broken for you?08:56
hadsIt's the same mythtv version so there's not going to be much difference in that respect09:04
SolicitousI'm having trouble with my Dvico FusionHDTV Pro.10:40
SolicitousThe card is detected correctly and firmware loaded, but scantv only reports valid inputs of "Composite" and "S-Video"10:41
SolicitousAnyone been able to successfully setup one of these cards?10:41
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t3ckn0b0yhad an issue , when pausing and putting the rewind or fastforward for a good period of time myth tends to crash completely.. usually with live tv.14:39
t3ckn0b0y*pushing the rewind / fastforward14:40
MythbuntuGuest65hi15:23
spoky99hi all15:30
spoky99I had a problem with controlling sound from mythtv15:31
spoky99someone can help me?15:31
spoky99O_o15:31
Lancelotdo I need a special computer to use the tv aspect of myth tv?17:11
LancelotI mean, do I need to have something else installed?17:11
Lanceloti just want to watch tv on my computer for free17:12
tgm4883_laptopwell you would need a tuner17:12
Lancelotokay17:12
Lancelotthank you17:12
tgm4883_laptopand for free, you would need an antenna17:12
tgm4883_laptopunless you already have cable17:12
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knubbli__roflmao http://tinyurl.com/6zec23 lol18:27
sabhain!diskless19:14
ZinnSorry I don't know about diskless19:14
sabhain!pxe19:14
ZinnSorry I don't know about pxe19:14
sabhainWorking to move my frontends to diskless (now I use /boot on CF, with / on NFS share).  I have 3 front ends, with some varying hardware.  Do I just generate 3 different i386 images?  Any experts on that here?19:17
foxbuntu_vmsabhain, you *should* be able to run them all on the same image19:18
sabhainGenerally the graphics are all nvidia proprietary .. but the display settings are different.19:18
foxbuntu_vmsabhain, you just will use the same image and modify the settings19:19
sabhainfoxbuntu_vm that would be great .. how do they handle the different resolutions etc ..19:19
foxbuntu_vmit is setup to be persistant iirc19:19
foxbuntu_vmsabhain, the confs and such are all persistant and stored in the NFS exports19:19
sabhainthe settings are saved where then?  are there different nfs export areas for each use of the image?19:20
foxbuntu_vmfor each machine, thus the diskless client boots the image, then applies its particular confs19:20
sabhainmakes complete sense .. hoping that would be how it works ..19:20
foxbuntu_vmIm not sure on the exact details, however laga does, catch him sometime and he can give you more info19:21
sabhainbut how to tell the front ends to load their own confs if there's no local storage19:21
* laga waves19:21
lagasabhain: it's stored on the server.19:21
sabhaingreat .. I'll look for him .. hi there laga19:21
sabhainso do I need a different set of exports for each FE?19:22
lagathat's done automagically. there is none export and each client creates its own directory there based on the MAC address19:22
sabhainbeautiful .. sounds like some smart folks worked on this19:23
* laga blushes19:24
lagawell, it's beautiful when it works :)19:24
lagacheck the documentation, you can download it on the web site19:24
sabhainnow one other question.  I have a working tftp service that was setup for mvpmc, which I want to maintain.  But thus far, I'm having timeout issues on the PXE boot from the front ends .. any reason to think that the inetd / tftp services as configured for diskless frontends can co-exist with mvpmc?19:24
sabhainI'm concerned that the DNS info I'm passing from dd-wrt is looking in the wrong place due to the earlier config of things for mvpmc19:25
sabhaineverything for mvpmc looks in /tftpboot19:25
lagayou can configure dd-wrt to hand out correct information.. i think, if dnsmasq supports that19:26
lagaor you can boot the frontends from your CF cards19:27
sabhainbooting from CF is fine .. that's my working setup now (with / on NFS share .. not diskless server).  I think I have a goofed up dnsmasq line in dd-wrt .. I'm just getting a PXE timeout, so it's not finding the pxelinux.0 file.  Must mean my router setting isn't right .. I think I may need to remove the server name and go IP only in that config line.19:38
sabhainthanks for your help & input.19:38
laganp :)19:42
cannevening \o/20:01
flodin_aegis: i've never really gone for AMD, I haven't read the kind of stuff I want to read20:06
flodin_aegis: my impression is that intel runs cooler, handles overheating more gracefully, and uses less power20:06
flodinthat thing on tomshardware a few years ago where the amd cpu just caught fire when they removed the heatsink put me off20:08
t3ckn0b0y!help20:14
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foxbuntu_vmflodin, that extreme over heating issue was resolved not long after that article, however cost-to-feature, the amd and intel chips are nearly identical, AMD generally costs 30% less than Intel while Intel generally performs (at least in my testing) ~30% better in the same class of hardware20:20
jphillipit fluxuates, currently c2d perform better but cost more20:23
flodini just want it to run fast and cool. Intel's pricing isn't high enough to make it a deal breaker20:29
jphillipmy amd64x2 runs nice and cool, but you will get more bang out of a c2d20:29
flodinthe cpu was about 1/6th of the full htpc price20:30
jphillipflodin just make sure you get a nice case :)20:45
steviemanhowdy all21:58

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