[01:21] <rhpot1991> _aegis: sure it does, it all depends what your needs are
[01:26] <_aegis> I may try it anyway... who knows, maybe if I get what I need OTA I'll end up ditching FioS TV
[01:28] <_aegis> Have any of you used the WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual Tuner PCI Express TV tuner with MythButntu?  Is that the card to go with?  I'd like to watch one channel and record another (HD) channel at the same time...  (multiple channels would be great, but I think I need to get multiple cards).
[01:29] <_aegis> I'd like to build a backend with that tuner card in it...
[01:33] <rhpot1991> _aegis: its generally hard to get info on specific hardware here unless its very very popular, your best bet is to check the following places:
[01:33] <rhpot1991> !forum
[01:33] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu forum is located at: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301
[01:33] <rhpot1991> wiki.mythtv.org
[01:33] <rhpot1991> http://www.linuxtv.org/
[01:34] <_aegis> thanks!
[01:38] <ron_o> I don't know where else to ask this question. I don't have mythtv yet, but am working up to it. Right now all I want to do is connect my pc to my TVs HDMI port and use it as a monitor.
[01:39] <ron_o> however, I'm a bit confused to how this will work. It's in another room.
[01:39] <heyheyhey> is there a bug in 8.10 with mythtv compiling?
[01:39] <ron_o> really, not a monitor but just play videos on it.
[01:39] <ron_o> how can I send video for it to be seen on it?
[01:40] <ron_o> my video card should be able to both handle my vga monitor and hdmi output, but I'm not sure about this at the moment.
[01:41] <heyheyhey> well do u have nvidia
[01:42] <ron_o> yah. :)
[01:42] <heyheyhey> use nvidia -settings
[01:42] <ron_o> I'll look into it. I just bought this mobo, yah it's built in.
[01:43] <heyheyhey> yeap
[01:43] <ron_o> it' Nvidie Geforce 7100/ nforce 630i
[01:43] <ron_o> Nvidea.
[01:43] <ron_o> ia*
[01:43] <heyheyhey> i have same one
[01:43] <ron_o> wow.
[01:43] <ron_o> yes.. :) really? mini-atx board?
[01:43] <heyheyhey> yes
[01:43] <ron_o> the p5n-em hdmi?
[01:44] <ron_o> I didn't care for being mini, my other mobos crashed on me. :/ intel sh*ts..
[01:44] <ron_o> I'll never buy an intel again. Just got this one set up.
[01:44] <heyheyhey> yes
[01:48] <ron_o> heyheyhey, would it be inappropriate if I asked you a question about this board?
[01:50] <heyheyhey> shoot
[01:51] <ron_o> ram, have vs1gb667d2 ... have two 1GB DIMMs. installed to DIMM 2 & 3. in BIOS said 2GB installed 859MB recognized.
[01:52] <ron_o> I took out DIMM3 after I had some booting problems. Don't know if that was the case. .
[01:52] <ron_o> so have only DIMM2 with 1GB and it still says the same about the RAM.
[01:52] <heyheyhey> switch them
[01:53] <heyheyhey> and change them in bios to 400
[01:53] <heyheyhey> mhz
[01:53] <heyheyhey> 800 mhz
[01:54] <ron_o> switch as in 2 goes to 3?
[01:54] <ron_o> think that might be it?
[01:54] <ron_o> try 400MHz first then 800mhz?
[01:54] <heyheyhey> i have in mine 1and 2
[01:54] <heyheyhey> it 800 mhz not 400
[01:55] <ron_o> but the book says different and so does this sheet.
[01:55] <ron_o> thanks. That's enough info for me to get started.
[01:55] <heyheyhey> okay
[01:55] <ron_o> no hand holding in linux. :)
[02:05] <rhpot1991> ron_o: on some boards you need to enable hdmi in the bios, then you should be able to use it connected to your tv as if your tv was a monitor
[02:05] <rhpot1991> I believe most will only output through one vga or hdmi and not both at the same time
[02:06] <ron_o> rhpot1991, most likely that's the way it is here too, but I'll look and see. I think it says  in my manual that it won't DVI and HDMI at the same time.
[02:06] <ron_o> doesn't say anything about VGA though. :)
[02:07] <heyheyhey> use nvidia settings
[02:07] <heyheyhey> it will work
[02:07] <ron_o> and if that doesn't work then I'll get another Video card.
[02:07] <ron_o> heyheyhey, I'm looking but am getting errors ..
[02:07] <ron_o> seeing now what's up.
[02:08] <rhpot1991> check your bios first
[02:08] <rhpot1991> if its not enabled the software wont be able to do anythign
[02:09] <rhpot1991> also I  think hdmi normally overscans a little, so dvi/vga work easier/better if you can use them
[02:15] <_aegis> I wish they had build lists for known working systems for mythbuntu
[02:25] <heyheyhey> aegis i only know 8.04
[02:25] <heyheyhey> that works
[02:25] <heyheyhey> 8.10 has way too many bugs
[02:32] <rhpot1991_laptop> 8.10 has some hardware issues, but it works well for many people
[02:32] <rhpot1991_laptop> if you have newer hardware then you definitely want 8.10, it supports a lot more tuners by default
[02:32] <heyheyhey> well tried to recompile mythtv
[02:33] <heyheyhey> and get errors
[02:33] <heyheyhey> Build-dependencies for mythtv could not be satisfied
[02:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> heyheyhey: did you apt-get build-dep mythtv?
[02:36] <heyheyhey> yeap
[02:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> what dependencies are missing?
[02:37] <heyheyhey> says it needs liblame0
[02:37] <heyheyhey> and then says the package is obsoutel
[02:37] <heyheyhey> replaced by liblamemp3
[02:37] <heyheyhey> so i installed that
[02:38] <heyheyhey> then still says missing it
[02:38] <heyheyhey> so it wouldn't work
[02:39] <heyheyhey> so i decided to reinstall 8.04
[02:39] <heyheyhey> it will only take 20 mins to get it back up
[02:40] <heyheyhey> you can even time it
[02:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> what is the point of all of this though?
[02:47] <heyheyhey> well 8.04 is stable for na
[03:13] <ron_o> I got some serious problems here.
[03:13] <ron_o> my nvidia gpu can't or won't recognize my monitor.
[03:13] <ron_o> so every time I restart my computer I have to manually set my monitors configs..
[03:15] <ron_o> but nvidia-settings complains that nvidia-xconfig isn't set properly.. so round and round I go re-running nvidia-xconfig and restarting my computer.
[03:15] <ron_o> any solutions?
[03:26] <rhpot1992> ron_o: by default it tries to detect the settings from your TV/monitor
[03:27] <rhpot1992> though this does not always work on everything, and having a bad/too long/etc cable can cause issues as well
[03:27] <ron_o> I noticed that... but it's not in it's system. :/
[04:53] <kr00l> Can i get Mythbuntu help?
[04:54] <rhpot1991> !ask
[04:54] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[04:56] <kr00l> I have a Hauppauge 150 and Mythbuntu 8.10 installed but i can't get the tv tuner to work. Any suggestions?
[05:05] <hads> kr00l: Ask a specific question and add as many details as you can about what you are doing, what happens when you do it etc. This will increase your chances of getting help.
[05:09] <kr00l> but i'm not a linux guru. Mythbuntu can detect my card but It doesn't enable the card. In system info it says TV tuner 1 unavailable.
[05:57] <BandC> hey tgm4883_laptop
[05:57] <tgm4883_laptop> hi
[05:58] <BandC> quick question: when i click on "watch tv" the screen flcikers a moment and nothing happens. i still see the main menu. i selected a recording directory /home/mythtv and set its permissions to mythtv:mythtv 775. what can be the probme?
[05:58] <BandC> problem
[06:14] <DaAnde> im building my gf a htpc for christmas does anyone wanna help me pickout the parts for one around $500
[06:15] <DaAnde> like what type of tuner should i get
[06:17] <DaAnde> I have 2GB of OCZ gold edition DDR2 laying around
[06:18] <DaAnde> to use on it
[06:20] <ron_o> make sure your DDR2 works with your new mobo.
[06:20] <DaAnde> ya
[06:20] <ron_o> but $500 ain't very much, to be honest
[06:21] <DaAnde> well its for my gf
[06:21] <ron_o> tuner being around $120 and vid card around $100.. that's almost half there.
[06:21] <DaAnde> vid card?
[06:21] <ron_o> look at this: p5n-em hdmi
[06:22] <ron_o> video card.
[06:22] <DaAnde> ya i know cant I use onboard
[06:22] <ron_o> DaAnde, yah, just mentioned one.
[06:22] <ron_o> but most mobos don't have one onboard you know.
[06:22] <rhpot1991> you can get something for ~500, I built my MBE for that including an antec fusion case (but already had some hard drives)
[06:23] <DaAnde> I am planning on putting in a 500GB hardrive
[06:23] <ron_o> yah, but it's tight.
[06:23] <DaAnde> around
[06:23] <ron_o> very tight.
[06:23] <ron_o> some guy used a old Tivo box for his.
[06:23] <DaAnde> anyways I dont even know if she will use this to record live tv
[06:24] <DaAnde> I know forsure shell want me to fill the harddrive with divx movies
[06:24] <ron_o> let's see.
[06:25] <ron_o> p5n-em hdmi mobo ~ $80
[06:25] <ron_o> 500GB HD ~ $80
[06:25] <ron_o> 2GB RAM ~ $50
[06:25] <ron_o> cpu?
[06:25] <ron_o> core2duo?
[06:25] <DaAnde> I dont know what I need
[06:25] <ron_o> the pentium Ds run hot.
[06:26] <Chaorain> hey where do I copy media files from my flash drive?
[06:26] <Chaorain> I'm a newb
[06:26] <DaAnde> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31724&vpn=M3A78-EM&manufacture=ASUS
[06:26] <DaAnde> what about that
[06:26] <Chaorain> I don't know where is appropriate
[06:26] <ron_o> Chaorain, you gotta mount it first
[06:27] <Chaorain> I don't see how to create a new folder
[06:27] <Chaorain> it is mounted but I want the files on the Mythbuntu hard drive
[06:28] <ron_o> DaAnde, I think that's too expensive for your budget.
[06:29] <DaAnde> MOBO $114, Proc Phenom X3 for $131 or AMD 64 X2 5200+ for $91
[06:29] <ron_o> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131324
[06:30] <Chaorain> Do I need to be loged in as root or something to make folders?
[06:30] <rhpot1991> most people still prefer nvidia over ati for these sorts of things
[06:30] <ron_o> DaAnde, make sure you get Nvidia chipset.
[06:30] <ron_o> ati isn't well supported with linux.
[06:31] <rhpot1991> especially if you can get something that will work with the VPDAU api in the future
[06:32] <DaAnde> she has an old 60" tube tv
[06:32] <DaAnde> u know those beasts
[06:32] <DaAnde> those big fucking square things
[06:32] <DaAnde> I gotta checkout what inputs it has on it
[06:32] <ron_o> DaAnde, how are you going to connect it to that TV?
[06:32] <DaAnde> thats what I need to see
[06:32] <DaAnde> SVideo probably
[06:32] <ron_o> SVideo? maybe not.
[06:32] <ron_o> it depends how old it is.
[06:33] <DaAnde> i know
[06:33] <DaAnde> I need to check it out
[06:33] <ron_o> might just have CATV.
[06:33] <Chaorain> how do I make folders on the hard drive? right clicking doesnot work
[06:33] <ron_o> must be Mistubishi.
[06:33] <DaAnde> and then im screwed eh
[06:33] <Chaorain> is there a cammand line option?
[06:33] <Chaorain> er
[06:33] <rhpot1991> mkdir
[06:33] <Chaorain> command
[06:33] <Chaorain> ty
[06:33] <ron_o> those old mitsubishis are still some of the best TVs around, however.
[06:33] <Chaorain> where should I put it?
[06:34] <ron_o> mkdir in root.
[06:34] <Chaorain> ok thanks
[06:34] <Chaorain> any clue why vlc plays dvds but mythtv does not?
[06:36] <ron_o> you mean DVDs from the ROM drive?
[06:36] <Chaorain> yes
[06:36] <Chaorain> specificaly Death Noted V1
[06:36] <rhpot1991> did you install the medibuntu plugins from MCC?
[06:37] <Chaorain> I think so
[06:37] <ron_o> I don't have mythtv installed and never haave, but you must somehow point mythtv to your DVD drive. How, I don't konw. :)
[06:37] <Chaorain> where is MCC?
[06:37] <Chaorain> nvm
[06:37] <Chaorain> found it
[06:37] <rhpot1991> Chaorain: do dpkg -l libdvdcss2 |grep ^ii
[06:38] <Chaorain> now what
[06:39] <rhpot1991> what did it return?
[06:40] <Chaorain> ii libdvdcss2 Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries
[06:40] <rhpot1991> ok good
[06:40] <rhpot1991> might just be that dvd does something funky, try some others
[06:41] <Chaorain> ok
[06:41] <Chaorain> one sec
[06:42] <Chaorain> ok
[06:42] <Chaorain> my other dvd worked
[06:42] <Chaorain> why didn't I think of that
[06:42] <Chaorain> thats the third time I've had that problem
[06:42] <Chaorain> wait no sound
[06:44] <Chaorain> Its across the whole system not just myth tv
[06:45] <Chaorain> ah it was just that drive
[06:46] <Chaorain> Thanks for the help
[06:46] <Chaorain> gtg to bed bye
[07:42] <MythbuntuGuest02> hello?
[07:43] <MythbuntuGuest02> wondering if anyone here can answer a channels question regarding mythbuntu
[07:46] <hads> !ask
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[07:50] <MythbuntuGuest02> ok
[07:50] <MythbuntuGuest02> I live in canada and i set up mythbuntu to scan for channels
[07:51] <MythbuntuGuest02> using all the us based guides
[07:51] <MythbuntuGuest02> i still cannot pull down any channels
[07:51] <MythbuntuGuest02> is there anything for us canucks to use?
[08:46] <FisherPrice> Hey, I've got Mythbuntu 8.04, is it worth the upgrade to 8.10?
[08:46] <laga> FisherPrice: "never touch a running system" :)
[08:46] <laga> if you do upgrade, make sure to get a full backup just in case
[08:47] <FisherPrice> yeah that's what i thought myself, but I just wonder if it's worth it... bug fixes and what not
[08:56] <laga> depends. is something broken for you?
[09:04] <hads> It's the same mythtv version so there's not going to be much difference in that respect
[10:40] <Solicitous> I'm having trouble with my Dvico FusionHDTV Pro.
[10:41] <Solicitous> The card is detected correctly and firmware loaded, but scantv only reports valid inputs of "Composite" and "S-Video"
[10:41] <Solicitous> Anyone been able to successfully setup one of these cards?
[14:39] <t3ckn0b0y> had an issue , when pausing and putting the rewind or fastforward for a good period of time myth tends to crash completely.. usually with live tv.
[14:40] <t3ckn0b0y> *pushing the rewind / fastforward
[15:23] <MythbuntuGuest65> hi
[15:30] <spoky99> hi all
[15:31] <spoky99> I had a problem with controlling sound from mythtv
[15:31] <spoky99> someone can help me?
[15:31] <spoky99> O_o
[17:11] <Lancelot> do I need a special computer to use the tv aspect of myth tv?
[17:11] <Lancelot> I mean, do I need to have something else installed?
[17:12] <Lancelot> i just want to watch tv on my computer for free
[17:12] <tgm4883_laptop> well you would need a tuner
[17:12] <Lancelot> okay
[17:12] <Lancelot> thank you
[17:12] <tgm4883_laptop> and for free, you would need an antenna
[17:12] <tgm4883_laptop> unless you already have cable
[18:27] <knubbli__> roflmao http://tinyurl.com/6zec23 lol
[19:14] <sabhain> !diskless
[19:14] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about diskless
[19:14] <sabhain> !pxe
[19:14] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about pxe
[19:17] <sabhain> Working to move my frontends to diskless (now I use /boot on CF, with / on NFS share).  I have 3 front ends, with some varying hardware.  Do I just generate 3 different i386 images?  Any experts on that here?
[19:18] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, you *should* be able to run them all on the same image
[19:18] <sabhain> Generally the graphics are all nvidia proprietary .. but the display settings are different.
[19:19] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, you just will use the same image and modify the settings
[19:19] <sabhain> foxbuntu_vm that would be great .. how do they handle the different resolutions etc ..
[19:19] <foxbuntu_vm> it is setup to be persistant iirc
[19:19] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, the confs and such are all persistant and stored in the NFS exports
[19:20] <sabhain> the settings are saved where then?  are there different nfs export areas for each use of the image?
[19:20] <foxbuntu_vm> for each machine, thus the diskless client boots the image, then applies its particular confs
[19:20] <sabhain> makes complete sense .. hoping that would be how it works ..
[19:21] <foxbuntu_vm> Im not sure on the exact details, however laga does, catch him sometime and he can give you more info
[19:21] <sabhain> but how to tell the front ends to load their own confs if there's no local storage
[19:21]  * laga waves
[19:21] <laga> sabhain: it's stored on the server.
[19:21] <sabhain> great .. I'll look for him .. hi there laga
[19:22] <sabhain> so do I need a different set of exports for each FE?
[19:22] <laga> that's done automagically. there is none export and each client creates its own directory there based on the MAC address
[19:23] <sabhain> beautiful .. sounds like some smart folks worked on this
[19:24]  * laga blushes
[19:24] <laga> well, it's beautiful when it works :)
[19:24] <laga> check the documentation, you can download it on the web site
[19:24] <sabhain> now one other question.  I have a working tftp service that was setup for mvpmc, which I want to maintain.  But thus far, I'm having timeout issues on the PXE boot from the front ends .. any reason to think that the inetd / tftp services as configured for diskless frontends can co-exist with mvpmc?
[19:25] <sabhain> I'm concerned that the DNS info I'm passing from dd-wrt is looking in the wrong place due to the earlier config of things for mvpmc
[19:25] <sabhain> everything for mvpmc looks in /tftpboot
[19:26] <laga> you can configure dd-wrt to hand out correct information.. i think, if dnsmasq supports that
[19:27] <laga> or you can boot the frontends from your CF cards
[19:38] <sabhain> booting from CF is fine .. that's my working setup now (with / on NFS share .. not diskless server).  I think I have a goofed up dnsmasq line in dd-wrt .. I'm just getting a PXE timeout, so it's not finding the pxelinux.0 file.  Must mean my router setting isn't right .. I think I may need to remove the server name and go IP only in that config line.
[19:38] <sabhain> thanks for your help & input.
[19:42] <laga> np :)
[20:01] <cann> evening \o/
[20:06] <flodin> _aegis: i've never really gone for AMD, I haven't read the kind of stuff I want to read
[20:06] <flodin> _aegis: my impression is that intel runs cooler, handles overheating more gracefully, and uses less power
[20:08] <flodin> that thing on tomshardware a few years ago where the amd cpu just caught fire when they removed the heatsink put me off
[20:14] <t3ckn0b0y> !help
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[20:20] <foxbuntu_vm> flodin, that extreme over heating issue was resolved not long after that article, however cost-to-feature, the amd and intel chips are nearly identical, AMD generally costs 30% less than Intel while Intel generally performs (at least in my testing) ~30% better in the same class of hardware
[20:23] <jphillip> it fluxuates, currently c2d perform better but cost more
[20:29] <flodin> i just want it to run fast and cool. Intel's pricing isn't high enough to make it a deal breaker
[20:29] <jphillip> my amd64x2 runs nice and cool, but you will get more bang out of a c2d
[20:30] <flodin> the cpu was about 1/6th of the full htpc price
[20:45] <jphillip> flodin just make sure you get a nice case :)
[21:58] <stevieman> howdy all