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[02:09] <slestak> is there anyone using dnsmasq for home use?  i have a couple of laptops that my backuppc server need to be able to find and last time i tried dnsmasq it was a mess
[02:12] <hads> dnsmasq has always worked well for me
[02:14] <slestak> i think one my previous hangups was i had my server multihomed, and it just added complexity that wasnt necessary
[02:15] <slestak> i want to use my linksys router for dhcp too, i really just want the dns portion of dnsmasq
[02:16] <slestak> not sure how to handle multiple nics on the clients.  i may want to backup over wifi for a quick one, or over wired nic for full backups.
[02:30] <slestak> im really not sure how to handle the multplie nics.  i would never use the both at the same time, but last time i remembered, dnsmasq wouldnt let me say macid1 and macid2 are both host laptop1, i had to make hostnames laptop-wifi and laptop-wired
[09:17] <Gargoyle> Morning all
[09:23] <LoveGuru> morning Gargoyle!
[09:34] <Evilscare> Hi all
[09:37] <safl> hey :)
[12:08] <yann2> that virtualisation annouvement with IBM is quite deceiving, knowing that there is no free and good alternative to nomachine NX server :(
[12:10] <kaushal> hi
[12:10] <kaushal> I have set limits for tomcat user in limits.conf for nofiles
[12:11] <kaushal> but still it shows 1024
[12:11] <kaushal> its on Ubuntu 8.04 server
[12:11] <kaushal> what could be the issue
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yann2, hum?
[12:12] <kaushal> tomcat soft nofile 32000
[12:12] <kaushal> tomcat hard nofile 32000
[12:12] <yann2> http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/26230.wss
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> yann2, oh. to many buzwords in there for me to handle, but i thin i understand
[12:17] <yann2> too bad canonical goes the proprietary way for virtualisation. makes me really think if I did the right choice.
[12:18] <yann2> with that type of agreement they won't want to compete with it. Which is, for me, very, very bad as it is pretty much the type of solution i am waiting for.
[12:18] <henkjan> kaushal: ask Jeeves_ . He has a customer were we also played with limts but i forgot how we managed to fix it
[12:18] <Jeeves_> henkjan: Hmm
[12:19] <Jeeves_> ndcgames you mean?
[12:19] <henkjan> Jeeves_: yup
[12:19] <Jeeves_> tomcat55         -       nofile          4096
[12:19] <Nafallo> ehrm.. looks more like it's based on the Ubuntu base and other companies adding their appliances on top surely?
[12:19] <Jeeves_> That's what we have there
[12:19] <Nafallo> yann2: ^--
[12:20] <maswan> limits.conf only applies to pam though, and not things started from init
[12:20] <Nafallo> Canonical's virtualisation offer is still KVM as far as I'm aware.
[12:21] <yann2> Nafallo > that offer is KVM + some other clever bits, apparently including a clever X export solution, which I'd find interesting to know what it's based on
[12:22] <Nafallo> yann2: but that's the Virtual Bridges thing, no? :-)
[12:27] <yann2> The VERDE Clients Protocol utilizes the Virtual Bridges VDI remote client protocol, an open source
[12:27] <yann2> implementation combining the standard RFB (VNC) protocol with remote device access functions.
[12:27] <yann2> bah.
[12:28] <_ruben> if only the nx (windows) clients would have proper multi-mon support (where both heads are different resolution) .. but that's totally unrelated :P
[12:28] <yann2> I think NX server has pretty much the same features for a lot lower cost of ownership.
[12:28] <yann2> _ruben > ever used NX with xdmcp? rocks :)
[12:29] <yann2> (too bad XDMCP in KDM is broken)
[12:29] <_ruben> yann2: nah, i use nx to start a konsole remotely and start my stuff from there, like kontact
[12:30] <yann2> you dont like ssh? :)
[12:33] <_ruben> yann2: i want to be able to (re)connect to already running programs (like vnc), but not have a complete desktop within a window (seamless remote desktop)
[12:34] <_ruben> the fix for nx would be "trivial" .. they just need to upgrade they cygwin/x version to add xrandr (i think) support :
[12:34] <_ruben> :)
[12:34] <_ruben> but like i said, its unrelated and offtopic for this channel ;)
[13:38] <slestak> i am not understanding something about basic networking.  i think i need dnsmasq, becuase i want local name resolution and i think bind wold be overkill for my home lan.
[13:39] <slestak> my laptops have of course wired and wireless nics, and I would liek to be able to use either to my backuppc server.
[13:39] <slestak> last time I tried to setup dnsmasq, it would not let me map 2 mac addresses to the same hostname (even if only one is enabled)
[13:40] <slestak> so would the _correct_ way to handle this to have 2 hostnames?  e1505-wifi and e1505-wired?  that sucks
[14:02] <_ruben> slestak: configure your dhcp server so that both the wired and wireless interface would use the same ip .. then again, if you'd do so, you cant use wired and wireless simultaneously ofcourse (not that that would be a common thing tho)
[14:08] <slestak> _ruben: yeah, i didnt intend to use both.
[14:08] <slestak> i think last time i tried that, dnsmasq wouldnt let me map 2 to the same ip.
[14:09] <slestak> there is also a 3rd floating gigbit nic i use for full backups that can be in any of three laptops (for full backups).  what a pain
[14:11] <safl> hey ppl, I have been building appliances all of last week with Soren Hansens vmbuilder script and all has been well, but today when i went to work and started building a new appliance it simply stalled with "Installing guest operating system. This might take some time...". Could it be that i have been banned from the repositories or something like that? It used to take 6-7min now it never finishes...
[14:13] <slestak> safl: could be just the repo you have chosen having problems.
[14:13] <slestak> safl: i recently had to change from my favorite close one when they stopped getting updates
[14:14] <safl> slestak: yeah i thought that as well... but i have been trying various mirrors and the issue persists...
[14:15] <slestak> interesting
[14:16] <safl> slestak: hmm i actually think that it is our local network... i really should't have a latency of 25ms to my gateway...
[15:12] <FebruariusX> hello everyont this could be the right room to ask about high-availability / load-balancing
[15:14] <tonyyarusso> FebruariusX: You certainly can - just be warned that you may not get an answer right away, so it's a good idea to stick around for a few hours to see what people say.
[15:18] <FebruariusX> ok thnx
[16:29] <russell_nash> hi, does anybody know what the following error message means in the xsession-errors log of my ltsp client means? Message: another SSH agent is running at: /tmp/ssh-GaeyUQ8558/agent.8558
[16:46] <fw1> hi i am installing a server via pxe, however there seems some strange requirements for the gimp and myspell
[17:12] <soren> safl: If you pass --debug to vmbuilder, you might be able to get some more information.
[17:12] <soren> safl: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:17] <safl> soren: Sry for not replying but the problem actually was with the first three mirrors.... so now I've set up a proxy as your guide suggest :) I actually found the --debug option very helpful earlier. And I am running 8.10
[17:19] <safl> soren: btw, thank you SO much for Ubuntu JeOS and that vmbuilder script! I am really enjoying myself at work lately ;)
[17:19] <soren> safl: I'm glad  you like it :)
[17:32] <yann2> boah exim packages are bdly broken.. just no way to uninstall :|
[17:39] <agampher> hello, anyone here have any experience with installing nagios on ubuntu server?
[17:39] <agampher> if so, a link to non-outdated documentation would be very much appreciated
[17:42] <yann2> i use it, but no link to documentation.. although if you use munin as well I'd recommend using check_munin_rrd as a nagios plugin :)
[17:42] <agampher> ive installed the nagios package on 8.10 just to play with it on ubuntu
[17:44] <agampher> i suppose ill just try to adapt the debian instructions i found and go from there, just thought id check with you guys before i did. thanks for the tip yann, ill take a look at it
[17:45] <antdedyet> agampher: you may benefit from installing the nagios doc package
[17:46] <agampher> ah, i didnt go down the page far enough
[17:46] <agampher> nagios3-doc
[17:46] <agampher> thank ya sir
[17:46] <agampher> yeah yeah, i know rtfm :P
[17:47] <yann2> oh, nagios3 in 8.10? :)
[17:47] <yann2> sounds lovely :)
[17:47]  * antdedyet has plenty of folks still running nagios 2
[17:50] <agampher> yeah, found this
[17:50] <agampher> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nagios&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[17:50] <yann2> I'm actuallythinking of moving my nagios box to 8.10, some features look lovely.. service dependancies and hostgroup_members particularly
[18:50] <Oliber> hi all, i've got a slight hiccup with drbd on some ESX VMs running 8.04.1, it sees the volumes as 1kb, and claims to be stalled while sync'ing
[18:53] <ivoks> Oliber: anything in dmesg?
[18:54] <Oliber> the last two messages are writing meta data super block, and began resync as syncsource (will sync 4kb [1 bit sets])
[18:54] <Oliber> this is the initial sync btw, so it could be a config issue
[18:54] <Oliber> 2 secs
[18:55] <ivoks> is your physical partition bigger than 4kb?
[18:55] <Oliber> 50gb, yeah
[18:55] <ivoks> paste your config on paste.ubuntu.com, so i could check
[18:56] <Oliber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82591/
[18:56] <Oliber> stupid phone :s
[18:56] <Oliber> sdb1 is a 256mb partition, sdb2 is a clean 50-ish-gb
[18:56] <Oliber> on both notes
[18:57] <ivoks> how about /proc/drbd
[18:57] <Oliber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82592/
[18:57] <Oliber> from loadb1
[18:58] <Oliber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82593/ - loadb2
[18:59] <ivoks> network error?
[18:59] <ivoks> sync is stalled
[18:59] <ivoks> firewall?
[18:59] <Oliber> both nodes have no iptables rules
[19:00] <Oliber> same subnet, and no devices between them
[19:00] <Oliber> however, they are VMware ESX (3.5.0u3) VMs, which has caused some problems in the past
[19:01] <Oliber> and are running ldirectord, which is setup for a couple of apache boxes
[19:01] <Oliber> it's udp for drbd sync, right?
[19:03] <ivoks> udp, iirc, yes
[19:06] <Oliber> netcat opens, but dosn't get any headers/etc, don't think i've ever used nc for testing udp, so don't know if thats normal
[19:09] <Oliber> just spotted a typo
[19:09] <Oliber> arse
[19:10] <Oliber> loadb2's config said /dev/sda2, should be sdb2
[19:10] <ivoks> there you go :)
[19:11] <Oliber> it's only been annoying me for 4hrs ;(
[19:41] <jerone-mobile> what is the summit irc channel ?
[19:41] <jjesse> ubuntu-developer-summit
[19:41] <jjesse> i think that #uds redirects as well
[19:42] <jjesse> plust there is #ubuntu-server-summit
[19:47] <TrioTorus> I'm running into: auth-client-config -a -p lac_ldap
[19:47] <TrioTorus> Error in updating the file: 'pam_account' not found
[19:47] <TrioTorus> --
[19:47] <TrioTorus> Errors found.  Aborting (no changes made)
[19:48] <TrioTorus> I've checked and the lac_ldap profile is available when auth-client-config -l
[19:48] <TrioTorus> this is on intrepid
[19:51] <sommer> TrioTorus: are there any errors in /var/log/auth.log ?
[19:59] <TrioTorus> sommer: auth-client-config doesn't report anything in auth.log
[19:59] <TrioTorus> so, I've adjusted nsswitch manually to passwd: files ldap
[20:00] <TrioTorus> but getent does give me errors in auth.log
[20:00] <TrioTorus> Dec  8 20:57:31 joseph getent: nss_ldap: could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,dc=ebox - Can't contact LDAP server
[20:00] <TrioTorus> Dec  8 20:57:31 joseph getent: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldapi:///192.168.0.100: Can't contact LDAP server
[20:01] <sommer> TrioTorus: check /etc/ldap.conf, that contains the connection configuration... also want to make sure that your user has an ldap account :)
[20:15] <TrioTorus> sommer: found the problem uri ldapi:///192.168.0.100 wasn't working, but uri ldap://192.168.0.100/ is. Wonder why that is...
[20:15] <sommer> TrioTorus: you can enable ldapi in /etc/default/slapd... as well as ldaps
[20:17] <rezor21> I have a friend who is trying to install Ubuntu server, and he tells me that the server installer always installs Grub to (hd0) without giving him any choice to change it. Does anyone know how to change where Grub gets installed to?
[20:19] <greenfly> one way would be through changing preseed options
[20:24] <zul> 2cheeks
[20:39] <rezor21> How do you change "preseed options"? I'm not familiar with installing Ubuntu server, so if you can, please be specific so I can tell him exactly what to do.
[21:28] <slicslak> so what should i be doing to keep my box secure (in terms of upgrading)?  should i cron aptitude update and safe-upgrade?  or run these once a week?  is there a doc on this?
[21:34] <xenocampanoli> I am suddenly finding my ubuntu server apache2 won't print stderr output from my CGI scripts to the error file no matter what I do.  the #apache group people don't have an answer...???
[21:35] <xenocampanoli> This was working before, a few months back, but is not working now.
[21:36] <xenocampanoli> Or, I may be mistaken there.  This was working when I had the site coinfigured to work on http, port 80.  It now works on https.
[21:36] <xenocampanoli> But I still need the scripts to write stderr to the error log file, in all cases.
[21:39] <xenocampanoli> I am not getting any helpful diagnostics to the log anymore, and I need those.  I particularly need to have lines of failure in the scripts.
[22:13] <slicslak> i noticed that aptitdue safe-upgrade will download new kernel files.  are these applied and will take effect on the next boot?
[22:14] <ivoks> if that's something like apt-get dist-upgrade, yes
[22:17] <slicslak> so with apt-get only a dist-upgrade will upgrade the kernel?
[22:17] <ivoks> yes
[22:17] <ivoks> upgrade will also update the kernel, if there wasn't an ABI change
[22:17] <slicslak> ok
[22:17] <ivoks> if there's an ABI change, you'll need dist-upgrade
[22:45] <Jared555> what is involved in getting mysql 5.1 up and running on ubuntu?
[23:02] <ivoks> Jared555: mysql said mysql 5.1 isn't ready yet
[23:10] <ScottK> Well unfortunately we need it in Jaunty for Amarok 2.
[23:11] <ivoks> if you ask me, that's not our problem :)
[23:12] <`6og> mysqld is needed for a music player? ew.
[23:12] <ScottK> ivoks: It is because Ubuntu security has very strongly hinted that the would 'prefer' only to have one mysql version in Main.
[23:13] <ScottK> And generally, I think "screw $FLAVOR, it's not our problem" isn't a good attitude.
[23:14] <slicslak> i'm trying to mount a dvd.  cd's mount fine but the dvd says:  mount: No medium found   in macosx it says the disc is formatted iso9660.   my fstab entry: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0   any ideas?
[23:16] <ivoks> ScottK: it was a joke
[23:16] <ScottK> ivoks: OK.  Sorry.  There are enough people around who take that attitude towards Kubuntu, I'm probably over sensitive.
[23:28] <xenocampanoli> So I'm sorry if these seems an apache2 issue, but  I have lost use of stderr output in my ssl configuration of apache2 on Ubuntu, and I don't have the problem in Centos apache2.  I also don't get line oriented diagnostics anymore in my ssl Ubuntu apache2.
[23:51] <[Drake]> is there no an alternate CD?
[23:51] <`6og> hm?
[23:52] <[Drake]> used to be an alternate install cd for ubuntu-server
[23:52] <`6og> ubuntu-server only uses 'alternate' install, last i heard
[23:52] <[Drake]> did they do away from that?
[23:52]  * [Drake] ponders
[23:52] <ahasenack> [Drake]: the alternate still exists
[23:53] <[Drake]> ahasenack ohh know where i can get it?
[23:53] <ahasenack> [Drake]: it's usually together with the other isos
[23:53] <[Drake]> i found the link
[23:53] <[Drake]> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate