[00:00] <koshar1> !grub
[00:00] <Sweetandy> I made a fat16 partition on a USB stick drive, effectively erasing it. Now dmesg tells me that FAT is an invalid media value and that it can't find a valid FAT filesystem on the device, /dev/sdb. What to do?
[00:00] <payload1> are there alternative concepts, LjL?
[00:00] <slippy> whodi
[00:01] <deardeath> ok I need help with something, Flannel
[00:01] <koshar1> Sweetandy try vfat
[00:01] <rww> How do I find a description of the changes made in updates of a package? E.g., apt-get just downloaded some new updates and I want to know what changes were in them.
[00:01] <deardeath> When I type the find command, it gives me (hd1,2)
[00:01] <deardeath> any idea which one I should write?
[00:01] <DasEi> !wubi > yanko
[00:02] <Sweetandy> koshar1: wrong fs type is what the mount command tells me.
[00:02] <JedMiller> anyone got any advice for installing ubuntu on a compaq laptop?
[00:02] <koshar1> rww synaptic > file >history
[00:03] <bobbycheetah> ubuntu 8.10 on dell d600.  cannot type in terminal,  can select app/places/system dropdowns, but but dropdowns don't appear.  i can move from window to window  with mouse and click on them.  have to use power button on laptop to get shutdown menu.  i've tried restart and power off/on.  any ideas?
[00:03] <bobbycheetah> was working fine all day. this just started occurring.
[00:04] <rww> koshar1: that's the list of updates that I've downloaded, not the changes that were made in those updates. I'm looking for something like "libfoo1 updated: Fixing Launchpad bug #422342"
[00:04] <Flannel> deardeath: hd1,2 is the partition, what do you mean which one you should write?  For location of installing to? or pointing grub to /boot?
[00:04] <Flannel> deardeath: Which step on that page?
[00:05] <deardeath> I said find, now it tells me to type
[00:05] <deardeath> root (hd0,1)
[00:06] <f00fyf00f3rz> boobbycheetah what os are you running
[00:06] <deardeath> but I got hd1,2 when I typed the find command. So I'm not sure if I should type root (hd0,1) SInce I didn't install Ubuntu on my main harddisk.
[00:07] <payload1> i go to bed. maybe i file tomorrow the bug..
[00:07] <balleyne> anyone know how I can increase the timeout value in Nautilus for connecting to an ssh server?
[00:08] <amoose136> does anyone know a command in command line that will maximize a window?
[00:08] <kushalsejwal> how can I upgrade my current version of gnome i.e 2.2 to 2.24
[00:09] <charmin_> dragonfly
[00:10] <bitmonk> i'm having trouble with suspend on my acer aspire one netbook with ath_pci driver.  if i rmmod && modprobe it after resuming, it picks up my network right away, so i tried adding it to the list of modules to be removed at suspend time in /etc/acpi/suspend.d/60-generate-modules-list.sh, but i still have to manually reload the module on resume.  am i doing something wrong? is what i'm trying to do well documented somewhere?
[00:11] <bitmonk> sorry, ath_pci is my wifi driver, from madwifi i think.
[00:11] <nintendork32> dlehow much ram does ubuntu server require?
[00:11] <nroot7> I am using ubuntu 8.10 and its performance (user experience) is overall sluggish. Like it takes ~ 3-4 seconds before a menu opens after left clicking. System performance was OK till 8.04. I have 1.5 GB RAM and 1.6 AMD Turion X2. Also the harddisk light keeps glowing most of the time. How can I find the bottleneck?
[00:11] <nintendork32> how much ram does ubuntu server require?
[00:11] <deardeath> hello?
[00:11] <bitmonk> nintendork32: we heard you the first time, and that's a difficult question to answer in exact terms.  there may be sys requirements on the website..
[00:12] <nintendork32> bitmonk: misspelling ;)
[00:12] <nintendork32> bitmonk: and asked here first because i idle here anyway ;)
[00:12] <bitmonk> nroot7: you've upgraded through all these versions?  do you have one big fat root partition? ;d
[00:13] <nroot7> bitmonk: no its a fresh install and i have a separate home partition
[00:13] <bitmonk> hm.
[00:13] <LjL> bitmonk: "all these versions"...? he mentioned 8.04 and 8.10
[00:14] <bitmonk> LjL: he said things were fast up until 8.04, implying an earlier version, and potentially a long chain.  split hairs much, or were you going to offer him some help, too? ;)
[00:14] <mortuis99> i have 2 macines that run ubuntu in 2 differant rooms is there a way that i can connect/control one from another?
[00:14] <LjL> bitmonk: not anymore than your comment did. though myself, i haven't reinstalled from scratch since Breezy i believe, and have no particular problems because of it.
[00:15] <rww> !vnc | mortuis99
[00:15] <mloyer> nintendork32: I would say don't go under 64 Mb :) but the minimum RAM is highly dependant of the type of service you want to run on it.
[00:15] <bitmonk> LjL: i was looking for symptoms, not blaming the ubuntu upgrade, go sit under a tree for a while.
[00:15] <mortuis99> rww  thanks
[00:15] <LjL> nroot7: tried disabling desktop effects? for the glowing HD, check iotop
[00:15] <nintendork32> mloyer: prefect :D i have 128MB
[00:16] <tyebud> Hello everyone
[00:16] <nintendork32> mloyer, sadly, have to wait to install a hard drive
[00:16] <tyebud> I'm having an issue with aticonfig
[00:17] <nando> how do i install a .run file?
[00:17] <tyebud> sh ./<file name>.run
[00:17] <mloyer> nintendork32: ok, 128 mb will be enough for a small web server/DB or anything not really memory oriented
[00:17] <LjL> nando: there's no standard way to do that, it depends what file it is.
[00:18] <LjL> nando: generally, software is installed using the APT package management system, not via manually downloaded files.
[00:18] <nintendork32> mloyer: how much traffic could it handle?
[00:18] <sere_> how can i tell what my usbstick is mounted as
[00:18] <sere_> mount point
[00:18] <LjL> sere_: "mount" will list all your mounts... then guess.
[00:18] <nintendork32> mloyer: i will just host a website+a few applications like irc bots
[00:18] <LjL> sere_: it's likely /media/disk
[00:18] <deardeath> Flannel: Are you still there?
[00:18] <sere_> LjL, ty
[00:18] <MAXIMUM> any one here uses ubuntu 9.04 alpha can reprot any niticible performance gain
[00:19] <tyebud> Does anyone have any experience with aticonfig and tv out
[00:19] <nando> LjL: this is not available using the apt get method
[00:19] <Flannel> !who | deardeath
[00:19] <mloyer> nintendork32: this will depend on your CPU, the type of webapps you run and your bandwith
[00:19] <nroot7> LjL: strange mono is on the top in iotop and a few KDE apps
[00:19] <Flannel> MAXIMUM: you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:19] <syslq> I'm very much found of my window shortcuts winkey+something is there some way I can mimc them in ubuntu? Standard app doesnt allow me to do winkey + something?
[00:19] <nando> LjL: I did it a long time ago but i cant remember how...
[00:19] <syslq> Mono? Is that popular?
[00:19] <nintendork32> mloyer: a ftp server, apache, and a few perl, python, and java apps for bots is pretty much it
[00:20] <LjL> nando: what is it?
[00:20] <tsuna27> hi i am connecting my ipod 2 ubuntu but nothing shows up
[00:20] <deardeath> Flannel: So here is the problem let me wrap it up. I installed ubuntu on the second harddisk, that is why I asked whether I should write down the exact same lines from the instructions.
[00:20] <LjL> nroot7: mono? hm, know what might be using it? (iirc the only program that uses mono on a default install is tomboy)
[00:20] <nando> LjL: Its an installer for a game
[00:20] <Flannel> deardeath: deardeath You should type root (hd1,2), where it found your stage1
[00:21] <deardeath> Ok thanks
[00:21] <Banditofdoom> sup guys
[00:21] <mloyer> nintendork32: that might work, but I think you'll have to make some test :)
[00:21] <tsuna27> the ipod is charging but i can add song 2 the pod
[00:21] <Banditofdoom> so any1 have an estimated geuss when zday will be open for the public
[00:21] <deardeath> Flannel: Then setup hd1?
[00:21] <LjL> nando: chmod +x filename.run ; ./filename.run
[00:21] <deardeath> I mean setup (hd1)
[00:23] <Flannel> deardeath: probably hd0, that'll be the hard drive (physical drive) that the computer boots to (and you want to put the bootloader on)
[00:23] <Flannel> deardeath: hd0 will be your first harddrive, which is almost certainly where windows overwrote your bootloader
[00:23] <deardeath> Well I installed the windows on second harddisk too :P
[00:23] <tsuna27> ? can any1 help me ?
[00:24] <deardeath> But we'll see, thanks.
[00:24] <JedMiller> Hi :) what problems am i likely to encounter trying to get my laptop to work with ubuntu? I just searched google and theres not much coming up about my laptop
[00:24] <tyebud> Does anyone have any experience with aticonfig?
[00:24] <kc8pxy> how do i create a raid1  and move my base install to that raid, POST-INSTALL?
[00:25] <erle-> how can i add a lib path for 32 bit apps on 64-bit ubuntu?
[00:25] <nroot7> LjL :tomboy
[00:26] <nando> LjL: thanks man i figured it out
[00:26] <tsuna27> jedmiller: i am using ubuntu on my laptop and i get a little less battery life compared 2 when i used XP
[00:26] <jtaji> JedMiller: best bet is to boot your laptop with the Ubuntu LiveCD aka desktop cd and see what works
[00:26] <tsrk> Any easy way to uninstall all the packages that got installed when I installed kubuntu-desktop?
[00:26] <nroot7> LjL: i really like the application otherwiase I just want to uninstall mono all together
[00:26] <hml> how do I view chm files?
[00:26] <jtaji> hml: install gnochm
[00:26] <jumpaholic> hi, i started an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and left it for a couple hours... when i came back i had a message like "your system could be in an unusable state" and dpkg --configure -a gives a lot of errors
[00:27] <jumpaholic> ideas?
[00:27] <tsuna27> my ipod is not recognized by ubuntu help?
[00:27] <jumpaholic> im shocked that i couldnt just leave the system while it was upgradeing
[00:27] <jumpaholic> why is it that i can leave a system that's upgrading and it freaks out when i dont configure a couple packages?
[00:27] <hml> jtaji: nice, thanks!
[00:27] <jumpaholic> shouldnt it... wait until im there?
[00:27] <jtaji> jumpaholic: I'm sure the same thing would happen if you sat in front and watched it ;)
[00:28] <jumpaholic> jtaji, do you have any ideas on how i can fix this?
[00:28] <jumpaholic> i've googled about
[00:29] <jumpaholic> tried several things
[00:29] <tsuna27> jtaji: can u help w/ my ipod problem
[00:29] <jumpaholic> update-initramfs -u didnt seem to help
[00:30] <nando> what does this mean "/home/nando/.setup8289: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:30] <nando> "
[00:30] <rockenrola> hi, I am triyng to add sound to a OO Impress presentation, without sucess. I have done the same in windows (via VirtualBox) and it worked, so it must be a Ubuntu thing. Any ideas?
[00:31] <thebloggu> hey
[00:31] <nroot7> LjL: thanks for your help
[00:31] <thebloggu> can someone help me with stalonetray in openbox ?
[00:31] <hml> jtaji: is there a wya to convert chm files into  pdf or ps?
[00:31] <deardeath> Flannel: I just wanted to say it worked fine thanks :)
[00:32] <jtaji> !info chm2pdf | hml
[00:32] <thebloggu> everytime i restart my computer the icons look bigger than the tray and i have to kill stalonetray process and restart it to look good
[00:32] <jtaji> tsuna27: I've never used one
[00:32] <hml> jtaji: fantastic, thanks again
[00:32] <eivindgl> having troubles with python indention for emacs. I have to press tab for each line to get the indention correct. auto indention works for C source files.
[00:32] <deardeath> Flannel: I just got a slight bit of problem.. On the GRUB I can choose either my ubuntu  or Windows XP Professional.. The problem is, I also have Windows XP Home installed.
[00:32] <thebloggu> i use
[00:32] <thebloggu> stalonetray -t -w --icon-size 10 --grow-gravity W --icon-gravity NE --max-height 10 --ignore-icon-resize &
[00:32] <thebloggu> in autostart.sh
[00:32] <tsuna27> okay this may help its an ipod touch
[00:32] <Flannel> deardeath: you have home and professional?
[00:32] <deardeath> Yup, both.
[00:33] <elostio> what are the abolute minimum hardware specs for a imap Mailserver, serving at max 10 people?
[00:33] <jtaji> jumpaholic: pastebin the output of dpkg --configure -a and maybe someone can help
[00:33] <deardeath> I'd have deleted the professional, had there been a way to do it without formatting.
[00:33] <Flannel> deardeath: alright, if you open up your menu.lst (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and duplicate professional and modify it to suit your home thing.
[00:33] <teear> I just edited vlc.desktop file, and now i have default aspect ratio of 4:3 when I start VLC from the applications-menu, but how can I get default aspect ratio of 4:3 when It starts by clicking some video file
[00:33] <deardeath> thanks
[00:34] <teear> I can't find any setting for the default aspect ratio in VLC menus
[00:34] <jtaji> elostio: for a server install with no desktop... not much
[00:34] <teear> Or is there some config file for VLC where I can set this?
[00:34] <tyebud> When I attempt to change a setting with aticonfig, I get the "Warning: Failed to set tv format immediately."
[00:34] <jtaji> elostio: 256 MB ram would be more than enough
[00:34] <jumpaholic> jtaji, the package causing all this is mythtv-common, the error is:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:35] <elostio> would i have a chanol with 200 mhz 32 mb ram??
[00:36] <jtaji> elostio: yikes
[00:36] <ganymede> elostio, maybe compile your own kernel with only what you need
[00:37] <ganymede> elostio, linux kernel can be brought down to 2 MB while fully functional, if you only compile your own hardware drivers into the kernel
[00:37] <benbloom> ok I've been beating my head against /etc/network/interfaces all day. could somebody help me? I've got a new laptop and ethernet connection (eth0) is hotpluggible but when I try to connect eth1 to the wlan I get no dhcp offers. I know my dhcp server is running though because I have several other wireless devices connected. it's a linksys wrk54g
[00:37] <chipbuddy> i know pretty much nothing about web design and html (and css and xhtml...). is there a simple open source program i can install that will generate all the html (or xhtml or css) for me? preferably heavy on the gui. i do'nt need anything fancy, just pictures, links and text, but i want it to look good
[00:37] <hml> jtaji: hmm, chm2pdf gives errors;  any other tool you suggest i look into?
[00:38] <tyebud> When I attempt to change a setting with aticonfig, I get the "Warning: Failed to set tv format immediately."
[00:38] <hml> jtaji: going to give archmage a try
[00:38] <jtaji> hml: I'm not familiar with any, I just searched http://packages.ubuntu.com to find that one ;)
[00:39] <elostio> Got a new keyboard layout, thus lagging behind. ill give it a go compiling my own kernel. Thanks guys
[00:39] <obi_>  im tring to get gsynaptic running, i throw an error that says i need to set SHMconfig to true in xorg.config or xf86config top use gsynaptic. can anyone help me with this?
[00:39] <help_im_lost> anybody know anything about getting wicd to work properly with windows mobile device to share an internet connection?
[00:39] <hml> jtaji: okaky, cool; doing the same thing (but using apt-cache) got me archmage
[00:40] <ganymede> elostio, or you can blacklist all the modules for things you won't be using
[00:40] <jtaji> obi_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Enabling SHMConfig
[00:40] <D-MAN> anyone know how to install wine on xubuntu?
[00:41] <ganymede> elostio, and you probably want to minimize all the /etc/init.d stuff and maybe even the number of login thingies from six down to one
[00:41] <help_im_lost> D-MAN; did you try sudo apt-get install wine?
[00:41] <ganymede> elostio, although i'm not sure if the logon thingies use that much RAM
[00:41] <ConstantineXVI> D-MAN: open synaptic, find wine, instal
[00:41] <ganymede> elostio, in fact, i don't even know if ubuntu will let you install onto 32 MB, maybe try DSL
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !minimal
[00:42] <thebloggu> i use openbox and stalonetray. i want the tray to be used as dock at the top right corner growing to the left with 10 pixels max height
[00:42] <thebloggu> how?
[00:43] <Aquina> What happen when I manually remove lines in /etc/mtab?
[00:43] <D-MAN> help_im_lost, do you know how to install guild wars in wine?
[00:43] <benbloom> ok I've been beating my head against /etc/network/interfaces all day. could somebody help me? I've got a new laptop and ethernet connection (eth0) is hotpluggible but when I try to connect eth1 to the wlan I get no dhcp offers. I know my dhcp server is running though because I have several other wireless devices connected. it's a linksys wrk54g.
[00:44] <tyebud> When I attempt to change a setting with aticonfig, I get the "Warning: Failed to set tv format immediately."
[00:45] <kpochrist> salut
[00:46] <kpochrist> d
[00:46] <mrwes> re
[00:46] <wa> please help me about
[00:46] <ConstantineXVI> D-MAN: in terminal, cd to your guild wars disc, wine setup.exe
[00:46] <tyebud> When I attempt to change a setting with aticonfig, I get the "Warning: Failed to set tv format immediately."
[00:47] <thebloggu> i use openbox and stalonetray. i want the tray to be used as dock at the top right corner growing to the left with 10 pixels max height
[00:47] <thebloggu> how?
[00:47] <qcjn> exit
[00:47] <pitang1> does anyone here use boinc?
[00:47] <mrwes> heh
[00:48] <D-MAN> con-man, do not have the disk is there a way i can sudo get?
[00:49] <cheaboi> hey guys 1 question, i installed openoffice.org Formula but cant find it anywhere on my comp i even sued alt+f2, but still cant find it, any advice?
[00:49] <cheaboi> used8
[00:49] <cheaboi> **
[00:49] <tyebud> When I attempt to change a setting with aticonfig, I get the "Warning: Failed to set tv format immediately."
[00:50] <qcjn> gnutron: hi, still there
[00:51] <jtaji> cheaboi: to add it to the menu you'll have to right click on applications, and select Edit Menus... or you can launch it with ooffice -math
[00:51] <Guest71019> what do I need to watch nfl.com videos?  I push play but the video doesn't so anything.. just blank grey screen
[00:51] <jtaji> cheaboi: it's there in the menu editor, but you have to enable it
[00:52] <cheaboi> jtaji: ah ok lets c
[00:53] <DasEi>  Guest71019:can you wath youtube ?
[00:53] <D-MAN> how do i istall guild wars on xubuntu?
[00:53] <sloucher> Guest71019 it's flash and it works great
[00:54] <hololight> Does anyone know if pulse audio has a problem with low system specs?? I have a laptop 500mhz 256mb ram and the sound sounds all 'jagged'. Works find in win98 though.
[00:54] <Aquina> What happen when I manually remove lines in /etc/mtab and erase /media/hal-matb and /media/hal-matab-lock? Will this cause permanent damage to my system?
[00:55] <dgnorton> anyone here with kernel building experience got a minute?
[00:55] <thiebaude> how do i mount a floppy drive in 8.10?
[00:56] <hololight> thiebaude: it should auto mount
[00:56] <LjL> thiebaude: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[00:56] <thiebaude> thanks ljl
[00:56] <LjL> hololight: how would it, given that PC floppy drives have no disk detection?
[00:57] <D-MAN> how do i istall guild wars on xubuntu from command line?
[00:57] <DasEi> thiebaude: for fstab : /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[00:57] <hololight> LjL: I am lucky with drives? (half joke)....
[00:57] <karenlizeth> hello need help with my ubuntu instalation
[00:58] <DasEi> thiebaude: for fstab : put in a flooüpy and paste out from : sudo fdisk -l
[00:58] <hololight> LjL: It always auto mounts disks for me.... that is on 8.04 when I was checking through a bunch of old disks.
[00:58] <karenlizeth> i have some problems in the display
[00:58] <karenlizeth> somewindows dosnt apear
[00:58] <thiebaude> im studying that 608 page ubuntu book, and it has tons of info
[00:58] <LjL> hololight: then you probably have one of those rare drives (perhaps an external drive?) that do have disk presence detection
[00:58] <karenlizeth> alguien habla español?
[00:58] <LjL> !es | karenlizeth
[00:59] <thiebaude> 8.04 has the floppy icon but not 8.10
[00:59] <thiebaude> by default
[00:59] <LjL> thiebaude, is there any floppy entry in /etc/fstab?
[00:59] <thiebaude> i'll check now
[00:59] <sloucher> I can't wait until no one knows what a floppy was or is
[01:00] <a1len> Does anyone know how I'd turn off compiz?
[01:00] <thiebaude> new computers still are sold with floppy drives
[01:00] <LjL> a1len: disable Desktop Effects in your Preferences
[01:00] <a1len> LjL: Thanks :D
[01:01] <sloucher> thiebaude doesn't mean that they don't suck
[01:01] <LjL> debate the merits or lack of them of floppies in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks...
[01:01] <thiebaude> ljl:my etc doesn't have fstab
[01:02] <Xitruz> Good evening people. I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop. Everything seemed to be fine but the sount does'nt work when I plug my headphones in. :/ anyone know what could be the problem?
[01:02] <mrwes> no /etc/fstab?
[01:02] <LjL> thiebaude: uh? is that some new Intrepid silliness...?
[01:02] <jrib> LjL: no
[01:02] <thiebaude> just /etc/
[01:02] <mrwes> heh
[01:02] <LjL> thiebaude: /etc/ is a directory, it contains a lot of files.
[01:02] <thiebaude> let me check again
[01:02] <mrwes> :)
[01:03] <tsrk> does ubuntu not support beryl?
[01:03] <LjL> !beryl | tsrk
[01:03] <thiebaude> my bad i was looking at the folders
[01:03] <mrwes> man...I'll never be faster than the bot :)
[01:03] <tsrk> LjL, does compiz-fusion support beryl themes?
[01:04] <LjL> tsrk: i have no idea, perhaps try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:04] <jrib> tsrk: do you mean emerald themes?
[01:04] <tyebud> Yeah, beryl themes should work
[01:04] <MSG4> does ubuntu 64 bits works with virutal box or virtual machine???
[01:04] <jrib> MSG4: as host or guest?
[01:04] <thiebaude> ljl:there is no fd0 entry in fstab
[01:04] <tsrk> jrib, Not sure
[01:04] <MSG4> jrib: guest
[01:05] <jrib> MSG4: never tried as guest
[01:05] <tsrk> jrib, I mean themes from beryl-project.org
[01:05] <MSG4> jrib: k
[01:05] <LjL> thiebaude: then you can add one and see. add the following line: /dev/fd0  /media/floppy0  auto  rw,user,noauto  0  0
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> tsrk beryl is no longer beryl.. it is now compiz-fusion
[01:05] <MSG4> jrib one more question how i check if my computer able to run a 64bit verision
[01:05] <MSG4> i can run 32 bits
[01:05] <LjL> MSG4: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[01:05] <LjL> MSG4: if an "lm" flag shows up, it can
[01:05] <thiebaude> LjL:i'll go ahead and run that command
[01:06] <MSG4> LjL how about windowsxp?
[01:06] <mrwes> sigh
[01:06] <LjL> MSG4: what about it?
[01:06] <D-MAN> how do i istall guild wars on xubuntu from command line?
[01:06] <tsrk> jack-desktop, ok, how do I install compiz-fusion themes?  Appearance manager like all the other themes?
[01:06] <mrwes> thiebaude, you need to edit your /etc/fstab and add that line LjL posted
[01:06] <MSG4> Ljl rite now im in xp how can i tell i can run a ubuntu 64 bits on my computer
[01:06] <LjL> MSG4: i haven't the slighest idea, i'm not a Windows user
[01:06] <jrib> tsrk: yeah, those are emerald themes afaict
[01:06] <dgnorton> MSG4: 8.10 works as guest
[01:06] <McCalister> Anyone use Kino to edit video?
[01:06] <mrwes> thiebaude, alt f2 then gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[01:07] <tsrk> jrib: it wouldn't open .emerald themes
[01:07] <dgnorton> just finished installing it
[01:07] <thiebaude> ljl:i dont have permission to save that to fstab
[01:07] <LjL> !sudo | thiebaude
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> tsrk The first page of the page you linked says what we have told you and gives a link to compiz-fusion
[01:07] <LjL> thiebaude: use "gksudo /etc/fstab" to edit it
[01:07] <jrib> tsrk: every time someone uses "it" in here I have no clue what "it" is
[01:07] <thiebaude> ok, i got it
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[01:07] <sloucher> I'm using the command line to watch TV on a haupauge 150 pvr. Does anyone know of a TV application that plays the mpg type tv cards.
[01:07] <tyebud> !aticonfig
[01:07] <LjL> !tv | sloucher
[01:07] <tyebud> Does anyone know anything about aticonfig?
[01:08] <tsrk> jrib, sorry, the Appearance dialog thing (system -> preferences -> appearance -> install)
[01:08] <sdlwof> Driver 'sd' needs updating -- please use bys_type methods -- anyone have an idea why it would hang? no updates
[01:08] <Xitruz> Anyone knows why my laptop-speakers are working but when i plug in my headphones, the sound dies??
[01:08] <jrib> tsrk: right, you probably want to use emerald-theme-manager
[01:08] <sloucher> thanks LjL but seen that info
[01:08] <tj83> Hi all, maybe someone can shed some light on this question i have: Which is better for a partition devoted to storage? Ext2 or Ext3? I know 3 is journaling, but this takes up some diskspace, what would be the disadvantage of ext2?
[01:09] <recon69> anyone got any suggestions , if i run "nmap 192.188.2.1" on command line my kernel panics. done it twice in a row now
[01:09] <LjL> sloucher: me-tv is a GNOME one not listed there
[01:09] <oshin> i need help for installing flashplugin for my hardy heron
[01:09] <jrib> oshin: install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[01:09] <recon69> the ip address is my router
[01:09] <sloucher> cool thank you LjL
[01:09] <D-MAN> is there any wat to install guild wars from the terminall?
[01:09] <oshin> i have write sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but
[01:09] <oshin> cannot
[01:09] <DasEi> D_MAN: I have no experiences with it, but you could ask in #winehq, if wine installs it
[01:09] <PsiKloPx> anyone know when Openoffice 3 is going to be available for ibex?
[01:09]  * jrib is in suspense
[01:09] <tj83> oshin you can join #seaphor for 1-1 help on flash
[01:10] <oshin> ok thanks
[01:10] <jrib> oshin: cannot what?
[01:10] <tsrk> jrib, "E: Couldn't find package emerald-theme-manager"
[01:10] <DasEi>  PsiKloPx:I think you can d/l an install it, like formerly in hardy
[01:10] <jrib> tsrk: try apt-cache search emerald for hints
[01:11] <Awsoonn> i just tried to install vista after insatlling ubuntu and it of course wiped out grub, but I go to reinstall it and it says neither (hd0,4) or hd(0,5) does exist when I try to reinstall grub, also the menu.lst uses uuid rather than 'root' method for identifing hard drives, which is new to me.
[01:11] <tsrk> i found "emerald", but I saw no way to apply the themes
[01:11] <jrib> tsrk: run emerald-theme-manager...
[01:11] <mdhancher> I am using hardy.  I would like to use an updated version of a package (libsqlite3, sqlite3, and libsqlite3-dev).  Intrepid provides a sufficiently new version.  Is there any sensible way to use intrepid's versions of those packages without upgrading my entire system to intrepid?
[01:11] <jrib> tsrk: and make emerald your decorator in your compiz settings
[01:12] <recon69> anyone got any advice on getting info on a kernel crash, if i nmap my router the kernel panics , yep "nmap 192.168.2.1 " causes 8.04  to crash!!!
[01:12] <GFree> mdhancher: any particular reason for not wanting to upgrade?
[01:12] <DasEi> Awsoon:the find-cmd of grub didn't work ?
[01:12] <PsiKloPx> why isn't it available in synaptic yet?
[01:12] <wsgordon> I got an install issue with Ubuntu, any one able to help ?
[01:12] <tsrk> jrib, Sorry, I'm really quite clueless about all this, one more thing, how do I use the cube thing in compiz-fusion?
[01:12] <jrib> mdhancher: checked -backports?
[01:12] <jrib> !ccsm | tsrk
[01:12] <mdhancher> well, the machine is being used for other things, and i would prefer not to add unnecessary instability at this time....
[01:12] <Awsoonn> DasEi: I'm not familiar with the find-cmd
[01:12] <DasEi>  recon69:/var/log/syslog
[01:13] <DasEi> !grub | Awsoonn
[01:13] <Bsims> Got a question how much overhead is there in runing VMware?
[01:13] <mdhancher> jrib: alas, it's not available in backports
[01:13] <tsrk> jrib, ok, thank you very much for all the help
[01:13] <Awsoonn> DasEi: I'll taka peek there, thank you
[01:13] <jrib> tsrk: no problem, feel free to ask if you aren't sure about something
[01:13] <wsgordon> I install Ubuntu, but once I reboot, the password and user name become invalid.
[01:13] <GFree> mdhancer: you MIGHT be able to install it manually, perhaps from source, but it would probably end up very messy
[01:13] <Bsims> wsgordon: capslock on?
[01:13] <DasEi> Awsoonn: can pm me for asistance, use first link
[01:13] <mdhancher> i'd build the package myself, but i haven't found a good description of how to deal with building a complex set of packages (binary, library, and dev) like that.
[01:14] <Marfi> hello my fellow Ubuntuers! I come from the future with great news.
[01:14] <Bsims> mdhancher: google for debian new developer guide
[01:14] <wsgordon> Bsims nope
[01:14] <kapipi> Evening, I wonder, did anyone else experience notes dissapearing from tomboy?
[01:14] <sloucher> Bsims there is a lot of overhead running a os on top of a os. You can adjust the guest os settings to lighten it up - but it's still a lot.
[01:14] <mdhancher> i can definitely install it from source, and it will work fine, but someday in the future it will collide with apt-get upgrade or something and i will be sad.
[01:14] <Awsoonn> DasEi: that looks promising indeed, thank you very much.
[01:14] <GFree> Marfi: let me guess, Windows still commands the vast majority of desktops? :)
[01:14] <Bsims> sloucher: Hrm I was considering it as an alternative to wine
[01:14] <talntid> Marfi: I am going to save a ton of money on my car insurance?
[01:14] <sloucher> bsims - it works great
[01:14] <Marfi> Songbird is now 3.0 and has over taken iTunes, microsoft just hopped on the open source band wagon (you still have to pay though, and it sucks) and Ubuntu is the default OS!
[01:14] <sloucher> bsims - try it
[01:15] <mdhancher> i've found plenty of new developer guides.  they all talk about how to build fairly simple packages.  i haven't found anything that addresses building more sophisticated package sets. :(
[01:15] <Bsims> sloucher: I was wanting it for games... and fallout 3 is rated a bronze to silver
[01:15] <mdhancher> maybe i'm missing somethign obvious?
[01:15] <Marfi> GFree, yes, but they are open source now. talntid no, because geico ended in 2009 due to the market crash
[01:15] <jrib> mdhancher: assuming hardy has the necessary dependencies, you could grab the source package from intrepid and build that
[01:15] <sloucher> bsims - oh games - no acceleration. Most games won't work
[01:15] <Marfi> I came back today to give you all the great news of Songbird. It is an AMAZING player
[01:15] <yaksoba> why i was banned from debian? i even write?!
[01:16] <jrib> yaksoba: this isn't really the right place to ask
[01:16] <LjL> yaksoba: why do you think #ubuntu would have anything to do with your being banned in #debian?
[01:16] <wsgordon> there some dockumentation i have read about the Dell Optiplex systems and the password not working, is it possible to modify the password and user name from the live CD once the os is installed to the hard
[01:16] <Marfi> anyone else a songbird fan?
[01:16] <Bsims> Bah so much for that idea then sloucher
[01:16] <mdhancher> jrib: interesting, is that a better option than trying to install the binary package from intrepid?  (i'm new to debian-style package management)
[01:16] <Marfi> or know when it will hit the repos?
[01:16] <nintendork32> my monitor doesn't like the ubuntu splash when booting, it says "Out of range, please set to 1280x1240(or whatever the resolution is) at 60HZ"
[01:16] <nintendork32> any ideas?
[01:16] <jrib> mdhancher: yes
[01:16] <a1len> Hey guys. One more thing... is there a directx equiv for Ubuntu? Something that I can use outside of wine?
[01:16] <yaksoba> ok....
[01:16] <kapipi> yaksoba: check out your server log, bans usually have a reason
[01:16] <nintendork32> to fix it that is
[01:16] <mdhancher> jrb: because the library dependencies are less likely to break?
[01:17] <Bsims> mdhancher: I've always used dh_make -e your.maintainer@address --createorig then sudo        dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[01:17] <yaksoba> meaning ?
[01:17] <LjL> yaksoba: (anyway, it's because you're on IRC as root.)
[01:17] <Bsims> mdhancher: you may also want to look into checkinstall
[01:17] <yaksoba> ok...........
[01:17] <gofg> how can i use rc.local to start applications at bootup?
[01:17] <sloucher> bsims - I think you dual boot for games. Some try wine and the such. Kind of a pain. I dual boot even though it kills me.
[01:17] <DasEi> Marfi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <jrib> mdhancher: right, the dependencies for the binary are generated when the package is built so that my cause some trouble if you try to just use the intrepid package
[01:17] <Bsims> sloucher: Heh fair enough... I'm weakening on my If I can't do it with free software stance
[01:17] <DaNk> how do i manually install b43 drivers?
[01:18] <jrib> mdhancher: I guess the other way is to check out the backports docs, they have documentation on how they create backports
[01:18] <Marfi> DasEi, how is it off topic?
[01:18] <tsrk> jrib, another question, how do I drag around the cube?
[01:18] <DaNk> i cant use hardware drivers, every time i try my computer freezes
[01:18] <mdhancher> bsims: yeah, i was looking at that, and it seems like i could pretty easily build a single debian package that includes everything i need, but that would not play nice with apt's dependency management, so it would avoid the problem of apt getting confused in the future and trampling on everything?
[01:18] <jrib> !backports > mdhancher
[01:18] <luddite> hi - synaptic updated after 3 weeks holidays. 129 packages. i accepted. anyway - everything except wifi is fine. wifi with no encryption(set by the router) works but when i put wpa2 on it fails to connect. any ideas? the network can be seen by network manager
[01:18] <DasEi> !ot | Marfi
[01:18] <jrib> tsrk: ctrl-alt-leftmouseclick
[01:18] <Bsims> mdhancher: It makes a deb and registers it with apt
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> nintendork32: do you play lunarwars?
[01:18] <tsrk> jrib, ok, awesome, thanks
[01:18] <Bsims> only thing that would conflict would be no -source package
[01:18] <jrib> Marfi: this channel is dedicated to support only, #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuff
[01:18] <Bsims> er -dev
[01:18] <DasEi> !broadcom | DaNk
[01:19] <nintendork32> IndyGunFreak: whats that have to do with anything? and no
[01:19] <luddite> Bsims: you talking to me?
[01:19] <wsgordon> #suse
[01:19] <Marfi> jrib, aight, ty
[01:19] <Bsims> mdhancher: sorry
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> nintendork32: i know someone in that game w/ that handle, thats all.
[01:19] <Guest50192> join #suse
[01:19] <Guest50192> join #suse
[01:19] <Bsims> mdhancher: only thing that would conflict would be no name-dev package
[01:19] <jrib> Guest50192: /join #suse
[01:19] <ChrisDavaz> My laptop apparently has a PCMCIA slot on it but I don't see the pcmcia driver loaded. What should I do to get Ubuntu 8.10 to see my pcmcia?
[01:20] <DaNk> while i am it DasEi how do i get xchat to open links
[01:20] <mdhancher> bsims: presumably also no libfoo package either?  i'd just be creating the one package, where there used to be three.
[01:20] <DaNk> it just stopped opening links one day even though i have it set in preferred applications
[01:20] <dr_willis> ChrisDavaz,  did you plug in a pcmcia card?
[01:20] <nintendork32> my monitor doesn't like the ubuntu splash when booting, it says "Out of range, please set to 1280x1240(or whatever the resolution is) at 60HZ"
[01:20] <Bsims> mdhancher: correct
[01:20] <nintendork32> any ideas?
[01:20] <nintendork32> to fix it that is
[01:20] <tsrk> jrib, my desktop "cube" is becoming a cylinder :(  Any suggestions?
[01:20] <ChrisDavaz> dr_willis, yes i did but nothing lights up on the bard
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> !res | nintendork32
[01:20] <ChrisDavaz> dr_willis, nothing lights up on the card
[01:20] <jrib> tsrk: that's some configuration option.  Check with #compiz-fusion maybe
[01:20] <mdhancher> so if some other packages depend on foo, and some on libfoo, and some on foo-dev, am i not asking for trouble?
[01:20] <nintendork32> tsrk: there is a setting in compiz
[01:20] <tsrk> jrib, ok, thanks again :D
[01:20] <DasEi>  DaNk: right click on it in irc window
[01:20] <wsgordon> anyone know if you can fix a usedname password issue on a harddrive install using the live cd ?
[01:21] <dr_willis> ChrisDavaz,  check dmesg output befor and after plugging in the card. Used to be there was a pcmcia service that handles that stuff
[01:21] <DaNk> yea i know that DasEi
[01:21] <nintendork32> IndyGunFreak, thanks
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> wsgordon: easiest thing to do is boot safe mode and do it there.
[01:21] <DaNk> its not working
[01:21] <Bsims> mdhancher: No foo means the package... libfoo is the libary used and foo-dev is the development headers for libfoo
[01:21] <dr_willis> wsgordon,  clarify what you mean by 'fix' ?
[01:21] <DaNk> hence my inquiry
[01:21] <tsrk> jrib, last question I swear, what's the "switcher"?  (By default it seems to be "static application switcher")
[01:21] <jrib> tsrk: don't know
[01:21] <tsrk> jrib, ok, thanks anyway
[01:21] <DasEi>  DaNk: left t click on it in irc window > direct open, right-click... open in browser
[01:22] <kc8pxy> how do i transplant my ubuntu install, from the single drive it's on, to a set of new drives, and set it up as a raid1, AND then boot from it?
[01:22] <mdhancher> bsims: i know that, but what i don't want is for some package to depend on, say, libfoo, which i won't be providing, and for a future apt-get upgrade to install a "new" version of libfoo on top of my libraries.
[01:22] <wsgordon> dr_willis i install ubuntu, then reboot, but theres a issue with the Dell Optiplex systems and the ubuntu system, once you reboot the user name and password are not recoginized
[01:22] <Bsims> mdhancher: tell apt to freeze the package
[01:22] <mdhancher> bsims: aha, interesting.  how do i do that?
[01:22] <dr_willis> wsgordon,  you can boot live cd, chroot in, set new password I guess...
[01:22] <DaNk> yea no shit DasEi i know that , its doesnt open windows it just sits there
[01:23] <DasEi> kc8pxy: for a 1:1 copy, can use dd, for specialist in grub/raid, join #grub
[01:23] <wsgordon> dr_willis can you manualy access the user name and password file and then make modifications ?
[01:23] <Bsims> mdhancher: Hrm let me look I am assuming you are using synaptic?
[01:23] <thiebaude> !language
[01:23] <recon69> well here /var/log/syslog.0  seem to match the time of crash, anyone able to make sense of it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/82244/
[01:23] <dr_willis> wsgordon,  you could .. but the passwd command would be easier...
[01:24] <dr_willis> wsgordon,  you could edit the file and remove the password.. then reboot , login with no pass.. and set one I guess
[01:24] <mdhancher> bsims: i've just been using apt-get and friends directly; there's no X on this box
[01:24] <Bsims> mdhancher: Let me check the manpage
[01:24] <mdhancher> which manpage, is this just an apt-get feature?
[01:24] <wsgordon> dr_willis theat might be worth a try, no password. then once the harddrive is up, set a password
[01:24] <jkoltner> Hi guys... what startup file can I use to drop a "hdparm -S xxx" into?  The command works fine to spin down my hard drives after a period of inactivity, but it isn't remembered when I reboot.
[01:26] <luddite> wpa2 wifi wont connect after update. please help mah
[01:26] <Bsims> mdhancher: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-262641.html
[01:26] <Guest32165> I cannot play internet radio with amarok... No audio codec.. can someone help me???
[01:26] <wsgordon> Anyone know of a wiki link to troubleshooting the Dell optiplex gx280
[01:27] <zzly> I have heard that ubuntu 8.10 includes a software that can make bootable usb stick,what's its name?
[01:27] <Bsims> jkoltner: Hrm man hdparm I think you can tell it to save the setting
[01:27] <ChrisDavaz> How can I determine which device file or driver controls the plugin-mic versus the builtin-mic?
[01:27] <DasEi>  Guest32165:close amarok, install winamp by wine, try amarok again
[01:27] <bazhang> zzly, usb-creator
[01:27] <dr_willis> zzly,  usb-boot-maker or somthing like that.. it works very well.. its got an icon in the menus
[01:27] <jkoltner> Bsims: I'll take a look, thanks for the pointer
[01:27] <Bsims> jkoltner: No problem, I'm entering my 8th year on Linux full time
[01:28] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: see alsamixer -c0
[01:28] <jtaji> jkoltner: look at /etc/hdparm.conf, man hdparm.conf
[01:28] <Guest32165> coo, thx
[01:28] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: (presuming it's actually hw:0)
[01:28] <mdhancher> bsims: thanks, i'll take a look at that; gotta run for now
[01:28] <man77> long headache?
[01:28] <jkoltner> jtagi: Thanks
[01:28] <Bsims> jkoltner: If it was me you would have to read man man before you could use your Linux workstation
[01:28] <kc8pxy> DasEi: I've done md0 booting before, but nenver on ubuntu.
[01:29] <Bsims> Question: How hard is it to setup soft raid on Ubuntu via install?
[01:29] <recon69> wonder if it will crash again if i try nmap again!
[01:29] <ChrisDavaz> crimson: I'm using 8.10, doesn't hat use PulseAudio in place of ALSA?
[01:29] <Bsims> I am thinking of upgrading over time to quad tb drives
[01:30] <jkoltner> Bsims: The problem with man pages is that, while most people are happy to use "man <command>", they're not up on how to search very well... and since they only use man every now and again, they're not going to remember that / searches and there's some way to make it case insensitive or whole words only, etc. -- this is where GUIs really shine
[01:30] <kc8pxy> Bsims:  pretty easy..  but you need to use the alternate cd, and i recommend also using the raid howto on the site(don't have url)
[01:30] <Bsims> thanks kc8pxy
[01:30] <Bsims> jkoltner: Oh I know but at least they might read about man -k
[01:31] <zzly> is there a software used in terminal that can replace usb-creator
[01:31] <DasEi>  Bsims:from what I read it's pretty good supported by ubuntu
[01:31] <karenlizeth> mama21mama: estas
[01:31] <karenlizeth> ya instale pero sigue igual
[01:31] <kc8pxy> zzly:  ...???  what's tat?
[01:31] <stiago13> hey sorry for bringing this up, but I can't find a clear enough asnwer.. is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu ONLY the desktop environemnt?
[01:32] <man77> !Spanish
[01:32] <ChrisDavaz> Is ALSA and PulseAudio mutually exclusive?
[01:32] <Bsims> zzly: yeah but its far easier to use unetbootin from the gui
[01:32] <karenlizeth> alguien que me ayude con monitor y tarjeta de video se me quedan como congeladitas
[01:32] <kc8pxy> stiago13:  not ONLY,  but the differences are very nearly only cosmetic.
[01:32] <jkoltner> Bsims: ...and then try to remember "-k" next time they need it. :-)  Hey, isn't there some Unix Geek Test where you get points if you can name the command line switches that ls *doesn't* support? :-)
[01:32] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: no, pulseaudio needs a backend.  alsa is a backend.
[01:32] <Bsims> yeah and I know for a fact grub/lilo can boot emacs directly proving its an OS not an editor
[01:33] <Bsims> jkoltner: /me ducks the endless vi/vim/elvis vs emacs flamewar
[01:33] <zzly> i think keyboard is better than mouse
[01:33] <zzly> ^_^
[01:33] <Bsims> zzly: same here what keyboard are you using?
[01:33] <jkoltner> Bsims: I suggest people start out with gedit :-)
[01:34] <jkoltner> Bsims: Granting that, yes, it's nowhere near as powerful as emacs/vim/etc.
[01:34] <Bsims> jkoltner: heathen, you mistyped kate
[01:34] <zzly> just a normal keyboard
[01:34] <Robert_C> does anyone know what this means - fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null)),0,0x39edbc,0x00000000), stub!
[01:34] <KlrSpz> i'm having an issue with the nvidia-kernel-source pkg throwing an error about not being able to get to the linux source.. i installed linux-source-2.6.27, and extracted it, and created a symlink in /lib/modules/<kernel>/build, but it says it can't get a kernel version from the source... am i doing something wrong?
[01:35] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun: using alsamixer I can see the two mics but how do I tell Ubuntu to only use the external mic?
[01:35] <Bsims> zzly: mine was a IBM Model M with grey label made 12MAR1987
[01:35] <recon61> can crash on command, guess you might call that progress
[01:35] <karenlizeth> eespañol porfavor
[01:35] <DasEi>  DaNk: Just tried myself (xchat), works fine on mine
[01:35] <KlrSpz> ChrisDavaz: under Capture it should let you choose the Mic Source
[01:35] <karenlizeth> el chat en español de ubuntu
[01:35] <karenlizeth> como es
[01:36] <DasEi> !es | karenlizeth
[01:36] <dr_willis> Robert_C,  sounds like some generic wine error message/warnning/comment
[01:36] <Bsims> Hrm I googled is there an easy way to load multiple distros with unetbootin
[01:36] <ChrisDavaz> KlrSpz, in the Ubuntu sound preferences? It does say "Sound capture:" but the choices are not obvious. Why one is external?
[01:36] <dr_willis> Bsims,  not that ive seen.. You would proberly have to manually configure the boot loader. and learn a bit about each disrto
[01:36] <Robert_C> what can i do to fix this?
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> Bsims: dr_willis is exactly correct
[01:36] <Bsims> dr_willis: Fair enough, I was just being lazy
[01:37] <KlrSpz> ChrisDavaz: laptop?
[01:37] <ChrisDavaz> KlrSpz, yes
[01:37] <dr_willis> Robert_C,  proberly not much.  Try latest wine versions. check !appdb
[01:37] <KlrSpz> ChrisDavaz: probably you have an on board mic hidden in the frame
[01:37] <luddite> in the windows network drivers i have added one but when i click 'configure network' i get a "could not find a network configuratiion tool" error. how do i get one? i have many i believe
[01:37] <stiago13> hey everyone, where could I get linux drivers for my laptop?
[01:37] <dr_willis> Bsims,  i set up a thumbdrive with PuppyLinux and GeeXbox. :)
[01:37] <Bsims> IndyGunFreak: I wanted ubuntu and ntpassword on one drive and space for my windows repair tool kit
[01:37] <KlrSpz> i'm having an issue with the nvidia-kernel-source pkg throwing an error about not being able to get to the linux source.. i installed linux-source-2.6.27, and extracted it, and created a symlink in /lib/modules/<kernel>/build, but it says it can't get a kernel version from the source... am i doing something wrong?
[01:37] <gofg> stiago13: the backup pack of drivers
[01:37] <ChrisDavaz> KlrSpz, yes i know this; i'm trying to purposefully select the external mic
[01:37] <jkoltner> hdparm.conf's warnings about how it has a very crude parser that's easy to break don't exactly inspire confidence...
[01:37] <solexious> Can I make a duialoge box pop up on a users screen from the commandline?
[01:37] <zsquareplusc> how can i tell which arch apt/dpkg is going to use (uname isn't the answer, i'm in a chroot)
[01:37] <harry__> There is no available decoder.
[01:37] <harry__> http://66.90.121.7:10017 in amarok
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> Bsims: what is ntpasword?
[01:37] <Robert_C> i've downloaded the most recent wine, but that is not the only error, there is 6 of them
[01:37] <harry__> whats up with that
[01:37] <Bsims> solexious: why not just write a simple menu in bash
[01:37] <KlrSpz> ChrisDavaz: yes, and with alsamixer, hit <tab> to select the CAPTURE options (seen in the top left), and then select the mic source
[01:38] <solexious> Bsims, would that just show in the command line
[01:38] <KlrSpz> oh you said "why" and i think you meant "which"
[01:38] <Bsims> IndyGunFreak: its a distro used to blank/reset a windows NT/XP/Vista box if they forget the password
[01:38] <solexious> ?*
[01:38] <KlrSpz> that i dunno.. you might have to play with it to test
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> Bsims: i see.. well, provided the partitions are set up properly, it probably woudln't be that hard
[01:38] <Bsims> solexious: correct, but to make it work in a gui is harder AFIK
[01:39] <solexious> Bsims, thanks
[01:39] <gofg> Is there any way to force the renaming of the title of a window? I'd like my rTorrent terminal tab to be called rTorrent, not gofg@gofgeee - bash, rTorrent
[01:39] <Bsims> IndyGunFreak: Fair enough, but I didnt' need to partition for the ntpassord program
[01:39] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: select it in the input source
[01:39] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: have you run the alsa-info.sh bash script yet?
[01:39] <dr_willis> solexious,  there are dialog creater tools - but deping on what you are doing  the X Security features may prevent it from poping up
[01:39] <Bsims> gofg: look in properties
[01:39] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun, no i haven't
[01:40] <solexious> dr_willis, it would be a script run by the user by clicking a icon linked to the script
[01:40] <dr_willis> solexious,  theres various 'dialog' tools that can do that. xmessage is a basic one.. theres other more complex ones.. check the package manager for 'dialog;
[01:40] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun, I don't have this script
[01:40] <hikenboot> hello all anyone able to tell me what log file usplash would log to on boot
[01:40] <solexious> dr_willis, thank you
[01:41] <Bsims> solexious: OPTIONS="foo bar fleem bazz" and then select opt in $OPTIONS; do strikes me as much easier
[01:41] <recon61> how are the /var/log/system logs organised? how do you tell which one is which?
[01:42] <ChrisDavaz> crimsaq, I am in alsamixer on the Capture section but I don't know how to select which input to use... should i just reduce the volume of the ones i don't want to use?
[01:42] <jkoltner> Time to test my hdparm.conf... which apparently requires rebooting... thanks for the help, guys!
[01:42] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun
[01:42] <Bsims> See ya jkoltner
[01:42] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, save it, and run it using bash
[01:43] <stiago13> where could I get linux drivers for my laptop?
[01:43] <Gyron> Anyone here able to help with the repartitioning of a drive under Ubuntu 8.04?
[01:43] <Bsims> Gyron: run gparted
[01:43] <DasEi> Gyron:go ahead
[01:43] <Bsims> Gyron: trust me its the simplest way
[01:43] <scunizi> stiago13, have you tried the live cd yet to see what works and what doesnt?
[01:45] <KlrSpz> damn these nvidia drivers
[01:45] <KlrSpz> bbiab, trying something
[01:46] <Gyron> bsims: The idea here is to be able to do this without losing any data. I apologize for my disconnect. I am trying to repartition a 500 GB sata drive. It currently has Windows XP Pro on a 100GB partition and 368.10GB of storage, most of which is unused.
[01:46] <Bsims> Gyron: gparted will shrink the partition for you
[01:47] <Gyron> Does gparted come on the live CD?
[01:47] <Bsims> Gyron: I think so
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Gyron yes
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Gyron system.. admin.. partition editor
[01:48] <beta-guy> At random intervals my laptop's caps lock light with start flashing, and when it does this my computer is completely unresponsive, it just shows a black screen, what's happening, and what should I do?
[01:48] <Bsims> beta-guy: wierd... does it only do this in linux or in windows as well
[01:49] <zsquareplusc> beta-guy: sounds like a kernel panic.   is the computer very hot?
[01:49] <beta-guy> just Linux
[01:49] <beta-guy> it can get hot, I do distributed computing
[01:49] <zsquareplusc> beta-guy: and the fan works with linux?
[01:49] <Bsims> beta-guy: yeah it sounds like a kernel panic
[01:49] <beta-guy> fan works fine
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Gyron There is always a degree of risk when working at the partition level and moving sensitive files.  You are the only judge as to if you need a backup or not
[01:50] <awsoonn> i just tried to duelboot vista aand ubuntu and of course grub got blown away, I tried to follow th instuctions on the wiki but it tells me error 15: file not found
[01:50] <beta-guy> is there anything I can do about a kernel panic??
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[01:50]  * zsquareplusc thinks there is no choice "backup or not". it's "backup".. ;-)
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> zsquareplusc I agree, but we see a constant stream of people that think that does not apply to them
[01:51] <Bsims> zsquareplusc: And backup your backups and make sure they work
[01:51] <awsoonn> Jack_Sparrow: I've tried to follwo tha tand I got the above error
[01:51] <freetown> Jack_Sparrow, yeah but grub ain't the default boot manager installed if you are using the alternative installer...
[01:51] <freetown> jack-desktop, i am now stuck with lilo.
[01:52] <Bsims> freetown: apt-get install grub
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> freetown It goes to lilo if you are running a type of partition that grub does not work with..
[01:52] <zsquareplusc> Jack_Sparrow: yes. but if you mention backup and they don't, loosing data it's their fault and not ours :-)
[01:52] <zzly> you can use the command 'grub-install --directory=/'
[01:52] <beta-guy> !kernel panic
[01:52] <freetown> Bsims, sure...but will apt and what not know to configure grub for kernel updates?
[01:52] <zzly> and then it will recheck your bios
[01:52] <recon61> ﻿beta-guy: you have my sympathies, same thing is happening to me, but at least I starting to narrow down the cause for me. somthing to do with networking
[01:53] <freetown> Jack_Sparrow, HUH? /boot on raid1 and / on LVM?
[01:53] <Bsims> freetown: It will do so its all automated
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> freetown /j #Lilo ...  very very few people in here have ever used it and people that ask lilo questions are often ignored
[01:53] <freetown> Jack_Sparrow, i don't see what problem grub has with raid1
[01:53] <zzly> \/boot can not be included in LVM
[01:53] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: LILO doesn't have a channel on freenode
[01:53] <Bsims> freetown: I am Old enough to have started with lilo but have never used raid on linux but will help you if I can
[01:54] <recon61> ﻿beta-guy: you may out more by checking you /var/log/system files , but thats all the help i can give you
[01:54] <Robert_C> i'm using wine based system and trying to play WoW and can get the program to run but the screen is all distorted can anyone help me with this problem?
[01:54] <freetown> Bsims, well...after installing grub...does it create the menu files?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL Where is the lilo channel
[01:54] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: i don't know, but not on freenode
[01:54] <freetown> Jack_Sparrow, i know lilo...but i hate the thing
[01:54] <Bsims> freetown: It does and any kernel updates trigger a grup update
[01:54] <zzly> its granfather's software!!!
[01:54] <freetown> Bsims, okay
[01:55] <zzly> i have ever heard that grub had a version 2
[01:55] <awsoonn> how can I see the uuid of a HDD partition?
[01:55] <freetown> zzly, why do you think i have /boot on its own raid1 md device?
[01:55] <zzly> it is realy good
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Robert_C  perhaps /j #Winehq
[01:55] <Bsims> freetown: worst case you boot a live cd and chroot and reinstall lilo
[01:55] <Giraffe> are there any applications that work for writing notes?
[01:55] <djbeenie> can anyone help me install vmware server 2.0
[01:55] <awsoonn> or see the uuid of all of the partions on the system?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[01:55] <freetown> Bsims, :|
[01:55] <Gyron> OK, I am trying to access the internet using a PCI Wi-Fi card. I need a driver. It's a Ralink unknown device 0601
[01:55] <Bsims> freetown: Heh I said worst case
[01:55]  * freetown goes and run apt-get install grub
[01:55] <zsquareplusc> how can i tell which arch apt/dpkg is going to use (uname isn't the answer, i'm in a chroot)
[01:55] <stu_> 02
[01:56] <stu_> jytu
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Giraffe tomboy perhaps or just gedit.. that is what I use
[01:56] <crimsun> zsquareplusc: dpkg --print-architecture
[01:56] <freetown> Bsims, sigh...no grub directory under /boot...i guess I have to do it myself
[01:56] <robs227>  Hi I'm new to Ubuntu. Can anyone help me? I have 2.1 speakers and my sound settings seem to be set to a 2.0 configuration. So my sub isn't working properly. How do I set up sound for 2.1 speakers?
[01:56] <Robert_C> Jack_Sparrow: where do i type that in?
[01:56] <Giraffe> Jack_Sparrow: i mean for actually writing
[01:56] <Stanlin> Hi, how to configure the PXE SERVER to deploy Windows XP or VISTA?
[01:56] <Giraffe> i just got my tablet working, so
[01:57] <crimsun> robs227: make sure your 'LFE' setting isn't muted or zeroed.  Use alsamixer -c0
[01:57]  * freetown prepares to nuke lilo from orbit
[01:57] <zsquareplusc> crimsun: thanks, that did it. i definitely have a 32 bit chroot then :-)
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Giraffe no idea..
[01:57] <thiebaude> ljl:i just found out that there are several bug reports about the floppy drive icon in 8.10 filed in launchpad
[01:57] <robs227> it isn't i checked
[01:57] <Stanlin> !pxe
[01:57] <thiebaude> but i used sudo modprobe floppy
[01:57] <Bsims> freetown: Hrm try grub-install /dev/bootdrivepartition
[01:57] <freetown> somebody teach ubottu :P
[01:57] <thiebaude> lol
[01:58] <noobnoob> does ubuntu come with a firewall and if so where do i go to access it?
[01:58] <zzly> pxe is good thing ! it can boot the pc from the lan ,but it also must have a server
[01:58] <dr_willis> !firewall | noobnoob
[01:58] <thiebaude> noobnoob: yes
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > noobnoob
[01:58] <noobnoob> thanks dr willis and jack
[01:58] <zzly> can ubottu say secret message?!??
[01:58] <thiebaude> noobnoob: i use firestarter
[01:58] <zzly> Aha
[01:58] <robs227> LFE is maxed out
[01:59] <freetown> aw...any pointers on how i go about rebuilding the grub package to enable pxe support? i want my pxegrub
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> noobnoob most new users that mess with the iptables/firewall are less secure than if they just left it alone and let Ubuntu deal with it
[01:59] <Stanlin> Hi, how to configure the PXE SERVER to deploy Windows XP or VISTA?
[01:59]  * freetown new to ubuntu
[02:00] <freetown> Stanlin, are you in the correct channel? :-D
[02:00] <zsquareplusc> freetown: i wanted that too, but it somehow didnt work, i'm now using gpxelinux
[02:00] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fb15565b322dde0dfdfd7194a286eddc2ebe7b0b
[02:00] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun, can you determine from that how I select my preferred capture device (external)?
[02:01] <freetown> zsquareplusc, really? i have had to get the raw grub tarball and build me own on centos...redhat's grub package has patches that broke something
[02:02] <zsquareplusc> freetown: i used the original tarball. enabling network support and a card was no problem, but it failed to compile.
[02:02] <istvan> hey, a quick ffmpeg questoin, how can do I use the -fs option? i can't make it work
[02:02] <istvan> with the ffmpeg I try "ffmpeg -i input.flv -fs 100Mb out.flv" but it won't work
[02:03] <freetown> Stanlin, i know squat about windows pxe but if you know the details, dhcpd will handle the dhcp side of things and tftp the tftp side of things. where to put what...you've got to figure out that yourself
[02:03] <Bsims> istvan: did you man ffmpeg?
[02:03] <istvan> yah, sorry
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !wontwork
[02:04] <freetown> zsquareplusc, hmm...i remember having to do something too on that score...maybe i should just copy over the pxegrub binary from my old machines...
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !dontwork
[02:04] <nickrud> !doesntwork
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> arrgh
[02:04] <awsoonn> grub can't appaerntly see my linux partion @ sda5 even if I try to do the manual insatll method, any ideas on what I should do next?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks and hi NIck.
[02:04] <freetown> Jack_Sparrow, 0 ubbotu 1
[02:04] <nickrud> hi jack, long time no see
[02:04] <freetown> ooops
[02:05] <zzly> hi nickrud long time no see is a Chinese English?
[02:05] <istvan> when i try that ffmpeg command i get a file that is 0kb in size
[02:05] <node357> !display
[02:05] <nickrud> zzly, no clue, been saying it since I was a cub
[02:05] <freetown> zzly, LOL
[02:05] <Dwade09> i can not find the link for flash player 10 .deb, can anyone that has it on hand link it to me please?
[02:06] <freetown> zzly, i am chinese but I assure you that 'long time no see' is very common. not a chinenglish hting
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> istvan could it be a path issue to your source file?
[02:06] <zzly> i from Shandong
[02:07] <scunizi> Dwade09, http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/16/test-drive-flash-player-10-beta-in-ubuntu/
[02:07] <zzly> where are you from freetown
[02:07] <freetown> zzly, well...born in HK but grew up in Sierra Leone
[02:07]  * freetown is a bruised banana
[02:07] <istvan> Jack_Sparrow: I don't think so, it creates the file just fine, and there is no error saying it couldn't find the source
[02:07] <Dwade09> scunizi,  thank you.
[02:08] <Bsims> I just relised my current older single core machine is roughly 75-90+% of the entire global computer power when I was born.
[02:08] <zzly> nice to see you freetown
[02:08] <zzly> Aha
[02:08] <Bsims> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, 2gig ram and 350 gigs of storage before the upgrade... now 1.4TB of storage.
[02:08] <freetown> Bsims, that ain't single core...
[02:08] <Stanlin> Hi, how to configure the UBUNTU PXE SERVER to deploy Windows XP or VISTA?
[02:08] <Bsims> It is a single core
[02:09] <freetown> Bsims, really? not the lowest end of the dual cores from AMD?
[02:09] <awsoonn> I had to mount the filesystem with grub on it and cd into the dir with stage1 in it, then run grub, and it worked as on TV so to speak
[02:09]  * awsoonn shrugs
[02:09] <Bsims> freetown: it was the last and fastest single core made on the 696? chipset
[02:09] <cousteau> how do I change the applications used by gnome-open?
[02:09] <freetown> Bsims, is that box new? if not...i say it is dual core.
[02:09] <Bsims> freetown: Its old and self built
[02:09] <freetown> Bsims, it's gotta be dual core. No 3800+ single back then
[02:10] <Bsims> freetown: whatever chipset came before the AM
[02:10] <freetown> Bsims, at most 3000+
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[02:10] <awsoonn> another problem I've been havin is that I can' tuse my touchpad, it freaks out and the mouse goes all over and clicks things at the speed of light, bu tmy wireless mouse is fine, any ideas on a fix?
[02:10] <freetown> Bsims, still dual core if you have the 939 socket
[02:10] <zzly> always using intel Aha
[02:10] <candive> ! tracker
[02:10] <freetown> okay Jack_Sparrow , jsut don't use your stick on us
[02:10] <osotogari> Hi all, im having some trouble with a new install and Firefox eating up all my cpu. Can anyone help or has seen this before?
[02:10] <solexious> How can I use a key with scp?
[02:11] <meoblast001> how do i tell xorg to use XGL
[02:11] <Bsims> freetown: the chipset works with dual core but the cpu is single core
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Bsims
[02:11] <Wibox> Hi, I have a raid array that worked under Windows, it's a hardware raid with nvidia. It's two drives that are mirrored, yet in Ubuntu they show as two drives (With the same files on it)- How do I get it to mirror correctly as one drive?
[02:11] <freetown> Bsims, we have to take it elsewhere...like pricate or ubuntu-offtpoc
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[02:11]  * freetown is getting OLD
[02:12] <Wibox> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah but it's a hardware raid, or should be?
[02:12] <Stanlin> Hi, how to configure the UBUNTU PXE SERVER to deploy Windows XP or VISTA?
[02:12] <recon61> anyone able to read kernel panic logs? /var/log/system.0 -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82254/
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Wildcat_ it probably says it is hardware but not really, kinda like winmodems are not really modems
[02:13] <Wibox> You tabbed too early there ;]
[02:13] <freetown> Stanlin, there is no PXE server. You configure dhcpd and setup tftp
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[02:13] <Wibox> Jack_Sparrow: So, it already is mirrored with files frmo Windows- In your guides, it says all data will be lost when setting up the software raid. :/?
[02:13] <osotogari> Hi all, im having some trouble with a new install and Firefox eating up all my cpu. Can anyone help or has seen this before?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Wibox I just suggest you have a backup and read alot of everything first.
[02:14] <Wibox> ffff...
[02:14] <DasEi> osotogari: all updates/grades installled (my ff doesn't take much)
[02:14] <meoblast001> does installing xserver-xgl make it use xgl when x starts?
[02:14] <ope_> anyone know if its possible to play a audio file at the login screen everytime you type a letter to login?
[02:14] <Stanlin> freetown: yes, how to do it?? i want to deploy WINXP
[02:15] <zzly> to deploy winxp it maybe called no disk network in China's netbar
[02:15] <freetown> Stanlin, like i said, I know squat about what files you need for windows xp remote installation. you have to figure out that yourself. this is the ubuntu channel...
[02:16] <DasEi> osotogari: all updates/grades installled (my ff doesn't take much)?
[02:16] <ChrisDavaz> I want to tell Ubuntu only to use the *external* microphone. How do I do that?
[02:16] <bazhang> Stanlin, ask in ##windows
[02:16] <tyebud> Hey All
[02:16] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: what url did that script generate?  (I've been waiting for a while now.)
[02:16] <tyebud> I'm having an issue with aticonfig.  Anyone familiar with it?
[02:16] <Stanlin> freetown: Im asking HOW TO configure Ubuntu DHCP + TFTP , to deploy anything
[02:16] <freetown> Stanlin, look up dhcpd.conf in /etc and man dhcp-options for that stuff
[02:16] <osotogari> @ DasEi: Upgraded the box from synaptic but apart from that its a clean Firefox install with no plugins or add ons
[02:17] <ChrisDavaz> crimsum: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fb15565b322dde0dfdfd7194a286eddc2ebe7b0b
[02:17] <zzly> it is easy to config dhcp.conf
[02:17] <freetown> Stanlin, files fed over tftp probably go in /tfptboot
[02:17] <freetown>  Stanlin /tftpboot
[02:17] <meoblast001> magnetron, ok im asking here
[02:17] <DasEi> osotogari:so a fresh ibex and did the apt-update and upgrade , then having this ?
[02:18] <meoblast001> magnetron, does installing xserver-xgl make xgl start with xorg?
[02:18] <osotogari> DasEi: Yes
[02:18] <freetown> Stanlin, apt-get install tftpd  and dhcp3-server for the daemons
[02:18] <magnetron> meoblast001→ with the drivers from Nvidia or ATI, you won't need XGL since they provide AIGLX support in their drivers
[02:18] <DasEi> osotogari:I have no certain idea, tried reinstalling ff ?
[02:18] <Stanlin> freetown: oki
[02:18] <recon61> well, guess there are no kernel hacker about, will try the ubuntu forums
[02:19] <meoblast001> magnetron, well... the dreamscene mod wont work with AIGLX i heard
[02:19] <tyebud> I'm having an issue with aticonfig.  Anyone familiar with it?
[02:19] <meoblast001> magnetron, wont work here.... just makes a new window
[02:19] <osotogari> DasEi: I'll give that a try sure
[02:19] <magnetron> meoblast001→ maybe it would help if you told the channel what software you are trying to run.
[02:19] <crimsun> ChrisDavaz: mute and zero both Docking Mic and Internal Mic
[02:19] <mehul_yadav> connecting problem of the printer
[02:19] <meoblast001> magnetron, yeah im getting it for you
[02:20] <mehul_yadav> lexmark printer
[02:20] <meoblast001> magnetron, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222193
[02:20] <magnetron> meoblast001→ don't get it for me, tell me
[02:20] <DasEi> osotogari:close ff, sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox  , then sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:20] <Gyron> I have a hardware driver for my PCI wifi card, but I am not sure how to load it using Ubuntu 8.04
[02:20] <meoblast001> magnetron, i cant get compiz to start up anymore... dont know why
[02:21] <roarkesd> can some one help me dual boot ubuntu 8.10 and leopard?
[02:21] <DasEi> osotogari:how did you figure out it was ff ? top ?
[02:21] <Gyron> I am currently just attempting to get online using the card, without making any changes to my system
[02:21] <magnetron> meoblast001→ if you install XGL, it will break Compiz support
[02:21] <meoblast001> i did install it
[02:21] <meoblast001> i can uninstall it if i have to right?
[02:21] <meoblast001> or will it delete my vmlinuz?
[02:21] <magnetron> meoblast001→ don't install XGL
[02:21] <obi_> im trying to get gsynaptic to work i get an error that says i need to enable SHMconfig. i follwed the imnstructions here ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig) and still no luck? what now?
[02:21] <meoblast001> will it damage things just to try it out
[02:22] <TarBar> How can i move a file to /usr/lib? i tried mv but it says permission denied?
[02:22] <Gyron> how do I get my Wifi driver to work with Ubuntu 8.04? Where do I go to install it?
[02:22] <meoblast001> i guess i'll try it out
[02:22] <DasEi> !sudo | TarBar
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > TarBar
[02:22] <TarBar> ok
[02:22] <magnetron> meoblast001→ yes, it will break Compiz. also, it will not work.
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> TarBar gksudo for gui apps
[02:22] <osotogari> @ DasEi: Yeah using top, it was eating my CPU at around 70%
[02:23] <TarBar> ok
[02:23] <TarBar> i want to move libtcl8.5.so
[02:23] <stiago13> hey where can i get some information about the compatibility of my laptop with linux? (sony vaio vgn-sz452/x)
[02:23] <stiago13> im worried about drivers and such
[02:23] <DasEi> TarBar: sudo mv  <file> /usr/lib
[02:23] <TarBar> Thanks
[02:23] <Gyron> Someone help me plz? How do I get my wifi driver to work with Ubuntu 8.04?
[02:24] <RequinB4> !wifi
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> stiago13: google is the best place... just google your laptop model and "Ubuntu 8.10".. and you'll usually get a hit.
[02:24] <dr_willis> Gyron,  will totally depend on your exact wireless chipset.
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> stiago13: the other thing, is to boot a live CD, see what works, what doesn't work.. then investigate further from there.
[02:24] <freetown> say....anybody have an idea how much space mirroring hardy or intrepid repos will take?
[02:25] <Gyron> dr_willis: I have a Ralink PCI Wireless chipset. I am certain I have the correct driver to make it work on my Windows XP Partition
[02:25] <DasEi> stiago13: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html
[02:25] <stiago13> thank you IndyGunFreak and SasEi
[02:25] <Gyron> dr_willis: Where do I go to load the driver?
[02:25] <orlando> hello there
[02:26] <stiago13> would you know about resizing partitions as well?
[02:26] <orlando> anyone to give a hand?
[02:26] <DasEi> stiago13: yup
[02:26] <orlando> I mean to give ME a hand
[02:26] <RequinB4> !ask | orlando
[02:26] <RequinB4> !hi
[02:26] <noobnoob> what are all the commands ubottu has as far as specific topics is their a listing?
[02:26] <dr_willis> Gyron,  in theory if its isntalled and the card seen - it shoudl autoload the  modules
[02:26] <RequinB4> !factoids | noobnoob
[02:26] <orlando> ok thanks
[02:26] <DasEi> !brain | noobnoob
[02:27] <noobnoob> thanks requin
[02:27] <bazhang> freetown, around 25 gb; check apt-mirror
[02:27] <noobnoob> thankes dasei
[02:27] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun, after doing that Sound Recorder doesn't record any sound
[02:27] <ChrisDavaz> crimsun, there must be some way to select which input to record from, regardless of the sensitivity setting
[02:27] <Gyron> dr_willis: The driver is not installed. I need to install the driver.
[02:27] <declan> Hello everyone
[02:27] <RequinB4> !hi
[02:27] <orlando> I am trying to install a printer ( epson stylus tx100) but it fails with a permission denied when trying to create one of the files
[02:27] <declan> can someone help me install flashplayer?
[02:27] <freetown> bazhang, thnx
[02:28] <exodus_ms> !flash
[02:28] <RequinB4> !flash
[02:28] <declan> I'm using gutsy 7.10
[02:28] <bazhang> flashplugin-nonfree declan
[02:28] <declan> bazhang, I started all that, but it keeps trying to connect to ftpdownload.macromedia.something and failing
[02:28] <osotogari> @ DasEi: That seemed to work for the Firefox issue. Thansk
[02:29] <bazhang> declan, did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:29] <noobnoob> what is the channel for offtopic?
[02:29] <bazhang> !ot
[02:29] <RequinB4> !ot | noobnoob
[02:29] <declan> bazhang...I don't think so
[02:29] <dr_willis> Gyron,  i always use that hardware-manager, restricted-drivers tool and let it get the drivers as needed.. You may want to check the forums for your exact/specifi chipset - to see if anything special needs to be done..
[02:29] <noobnoob> requin are you a bot?
[02:29] <bazhang> declan, that is the first install you should make
[02:29] <bzerk1> Has anyone used VMWare with ubuntu and windows vista?
[02:29] <DasEi> osotogari: nice to hear
[02:29] <bzerk1> I dont know much about it
[02:29] <declan> bazhang, how do I do that?
[02:29] <bazhang> bzerk1, vbox is much easier
[02:29] <noobnoob> !ot
[02:29] <noobnoob> bleh
[02:30] <noobnoob> ubottu !ot
[02:30] <bzerk1> bazhang, ahh ok cool
[02:30] <bazhang> declan, sudo apt-get install packagename or via synaptic package manager
[02:30] <bazhang> bzerk1, you need usb for the virtual machine or no
[02:31] <bzerk1> not really
[02:31] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose bzerk1
[02:31] <Gyron> dr_willis: Where is hardware-manager at? Under system?
[02:31] <Dwayned> hi i'm having difficulties getting my atheros ar5007eg to work
[02:31] <orlando> I log as root but still can not write to certain directories.... anyone there?
[02:31] <bazhang> orlando, dont use root use sudo
[02:31] <bzerk1> awesome.. So do I need to install windows on another partition first?
[02:31] <RequinB4> orlando: there should be NO need to log in as root... what are you trying to do
[02:31] <exodus_ms> !wifi | Dwayned
[02:32] <bazhang> bzerk1, vbox wont handle 3d games though
[02:32] <orlando> tried that too
[02:32] <khafra> So, I used badblocks on a new external drive that keeps giving me problems. It started 18 hours ago and it's still going.  If the manpage is right about the blocksize and block count, it's up to 1.2TB now, and it's only a 1TB disk
[02:32] <khafra> How do I get a second opinion from something faster than badblocks?
[02:32] <declan> bazhang, so, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-unrestricted-extras?
[02:32] <bzerk1> bazhang, I dont play games.. Will it handle visual studio?
[02:32] <Dwayned> the wifi docs didn't help
[02:33] <bazhang> declan, yep, may also want to check medibuntu.org for dvd playing and w32codecs
[02:33] <exodus_ms> !details > Dwayned
[02:33] <zerodevice> hi everyone, with proftpd, how do i allow it to accept logins from external network? becoz it can only do LAN login and not internet login form outside.
[02:33] <bazhang> bzerk1, not familiar with that; you might also want to check if wine will run that (check appdb)
[02:33] <bazhang> !appdb | bzerk1
[02:33] <NightStalker> Hi, When i try add new userdel.. Ubuntu say "adduser: The group `test' already exists." But.. I just want add user "test" what i need to do ? Thank's.
[02:33] <dr_willis> Gyron,  in the menus some where..   they changed the name from 8.04 to 8.10 so i dont rember its proper name
[02:34] <khafra> So, what would cause badblocks to just keep going and going and going?
[02:34] <orlando> RequimB4 I tried sudo and did not work that is why I tried to be root. Anyway I am trying to install a printer and almost at the end it needs to install a file in /usr/local/EPAva/ekdpsetup but tells me permission denied
[02:34] <NightStalker> new useradd*
[02:34] <bzerk1> brilliant! thanks bazhang
[02:34] <Dwayned> i'm running kubuntu 8.10 i hav ndiswrapper and it shows up in loaded kernel modules however i can't see the wlan0 card nor will it scan
[02:34] <NightStalker> Hi, When i try add new useradd.. Ubuntu say "adduser: The group `test' already exists." But.. I just want add user "test" what i need to do ? (my command is: adduser --no-create-home daemon
[02:34] <NightStalker> Thank's.
[02:35] <declan> bazhang, when I do that I get this:
[02:35] <declan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:35] <declan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:35] <cousteau> close all apt programs
[02:35] <noobnoob> what would be the next logical step up as far as linux gui distros once you are comfortable with ubuntu?
[02:35] <DasEi> declan:close synaptic-gui
[02:36] <eseven73> !distros
[02:36] <bazhang> declan, close add/remove synaptic or others and try again
[02:36] <NightStalker> help me please
[02:37] <bazhang> noobnoob, please discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:37] <cousteau> "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" means that you have more than one apt running (a command-line installing, synaptic, updates...)
[02:37] <magnetron> meoblast001→ so you're back. you never told me what "dreamscene" is
[02:37] <declan> bazhang, I did ps aux | grep synaptic...there are lots of them open...which do I kill?
[02:37] <Skky> what is a good channel to get C help?
[02:37] <meoblast001> magnetron, i didnt? its a vista thing that runs movie files as your background
[02:37] <bazhang> declan, lots of them open? dont you see the gui for them?
[02:38] <declan> You mean, the actual window? Yeah I see that but its not responding...
[02:38] <zerodevice> does anyone knows how to use proftpd?
[02:38] <magnetron> meoblast001→ i do not give support for vista. go to #windows .
[02:38] <DasEi> Skky: #c++
[02:38] <bazhang> declan, you were not downloading something else at the time?
[02:38] <zzly> which command is to close a irc channel?
[02:38] <declan> bazhang, I was. I was trying to download flash
[02:38] <meoblast001> magnetron, i didnt say vista =/
[02:39] <bazhang> zzly, you mean you want to part?
[02:39] <meoblast001> magnetron, i said ubuntu dreamscene mod
 magnetron, i didnt? its a vista thing that runs movie files as your background
[02:39] <KlrSpz> for the love of god, can someone help me out with some nvidia driver issues? I can't get it to install properly... always get errors about the kernel files not available and i've already got the linux-source installed
[02:39] <bazhang> declan, did that error out ?
[02:39] <meoblast001> magnetron, i gave you a link to the mod
[02:39] <zzly> bazhang i mean to close a unuseful channel from my joined channels
[02:39] <declan> bazhang, no, its keeps trying different servers to get what it wants
[02:39] <bazhang> zzly, which irc client
[02:39] <zzly> irssi
[02:39] <bazhang> declan, best let it time out
[02:39] <magnetron> meoblast001→ no, you gave a link to a xwinwrap thread in ubuntuforums.
[02:40] <meoblast001> yeah
[02:40] <PeskyJ> in tar, it can unpack files sometimes with different user to the user doing the unpacking, does this present any kind of security risk on multi-user systems? for example could someone make a tar with script in and set uid then unpack and run it as root?
[02:40] <meoblast001> thats the mod
[02:40] <mano> how could i make a script for wvdial and add an icon on try to activate it. It only works with sudo
[02:40] <declan> bazhang, it's on try: 10 and looks like its gonna keep going for a while...
[02:40] <bazhang> zzly, sorry using xchat here; if you address the channel tons of people are likely using irssi
[02:40] <luddite> my wifi cant connect with wep/wpa/wpa2 encryption. no encryption works fine. please help
[02:40] <exodus_ms> darn virtualization, I'm running Intrepid as a guest on a windoze pc and the 'time' on my ubuntu guest is way out-of-sync.
[02:40] <jaro> how can I find a word or centence on VIM
[02:40] <zzly> bazhang thankyou also
[02:41] <bazhang> declan, then shut it down if you wish
[02:41] <declan> bazhang, I don't know which process it is...
[02:41] <magnetron> meoblast001→ you only gave me a link to a xwinwrap thread. if you want to run "the dreamscene mod" you at least need to explain what is is
[02:41] <recon61> ﻿KlrSpz: installing the nvidia drivers is easiest done using system-> admin -> hardware drivers.
[02:41] <KlrSpz> recon61: nothing happens when i do that, it won't "activate"
[02:41]  * zzly 
[02:41] <declan> ah, got it
[02:41] <bazhang> declan, does not clicking the x on the title bar bring up a warning that asks if you want to quit or not (ie force quit)?
[02:41] <meoblast001> magnetron, dont worry about it.. im looking into another dreamscene mod anyways... that one sucked
[02:42] <RequinB4> !vim
[02:42] <declan> bazhang, it didn't. But I chose a random synaptic processID and killed it, and its gone now
[02:42] <RequinB4> that is decidedly unhelpful ubottu
[02:42] <magnetron> meoblast001→ no, XGL sucks. i told you not to use XGL
[02:42] <bazhang> KlrSpz, you did restart after that right? after enabling the driver?
[02:42] <recon61> ﻿KlrSpz: so what card you got and do you get an error?
[02:42] <KlrSpz> bazhang: it doens't enable
[02:42] <orlando> KlrSpz take note of whatever Nvidia install pakage tell you you need and install them. Just be mindfull that sometimes it might give you a name that is not exactly what ubuntoo uses but ubuntoo will have it with a name that contains the original nvidia name.
[02:42] <ndl> hi
[02:42] <meoblast001> magnetron, i switched back... but the mod sux too... it draws ontop of the desktop
[02:42] <RequinB4> !hi | ndl
[02:43] <jon5000> I am trying to chown on a usb drive and i get operation not permitted.  anyone care to help?
[02:43] <magnetron> meoblast001→ which version did you use? 0.1 or 0.2 ?
[02:43] <meoblast001> idk
[02:43] <magnetron> meoblast001→ 0.1 is very very old
[02:43] <meoblast001> of what
[02:43] <declan> Ahhh, killed them all
[02:43] <magnetron> meoblast001→ what version of xwinwrap did you use?
[02:43] <KlrSpz> recon61: nvidia Geforce Go 7300
[02:43] <orlando> say that a pkg ask for gtk2 in ubuntoo it could be something like libsgtk2 or similar
[02:43] <meoblast001> magnetron, not sure.... i looked up xwinwrap deb in google and got the one from ubuntu forums
[02:44] <Dwayned> when i run ndiswrapper -m i get module configuration contains directive install pci:v0000168Cd0000FF1Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i* /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:44] <Dwayned> ;you should delete that at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 868, <MODPROBE> line 255.
[02:44] <Dwayned>  for an error
[02:44] <magnetron> meoblast001→ yeah, but which version?
[02:44] <meoblast001> i dont know
[02:44] <magnetron> meoblast001→ FIND OUT THEN
[02:44] <meoblast001> and i want to try this different mod
[02:44] <meoblast001> i dont care about that mod anymore
[02:44] <Dwayned> i think thats where i might be messing up
[02:44] <Ferrous> i'd like to download and install Alice, some CG program, but it doesnt have a package in synaptic. I dont know the actual location of the file, but it is available here. :S http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=downloads/download_alice
[02:44] <meoblast001> im done with it
[02:44] <magnetron> meoblast001→ which "other mod"?
[02:45] <meoblast001> magnetron, this one replaces your desktop background with a screensaver
[02:45] <Dwade09> anyone in here run tor?
[02:45] <meoblast001> magnetron, but how do you make the desktop background stop drawing
[02:45] <Ferrous> hahaha, dwade
[02:45]  * Ferrous laughs at dwade :)
[02:45] <Dwade09> what is so funny?
[02:45] <KlrSpz> recon61: as for errors, when i try to install the nvidia-kernel-source, it says: http://pastebin.ca/1279325
[02:45] <magnetron> meoblast001→ ok, i'll never ever try to help you again since i keep asking what you are trying to do and you don't tell my shit.
[02:45] <Ferrous> your words are funny, dwade :)
[02:45] <bazhang> language magnetron
[02:45] <meoblast001> calm down
[02:46] <Dwade09> Ferrous,  torproject.com
[02:46] <meoblast001> your confusing me
[02:46] <bazhang> Ferrous, what is funny
[02:46] <Ferrous> i know what tor is ^_^
[02:46] <Ferrous> bazhang, do you find someone in an ubuntu help room looking or support reguarding Tor humorous? i do.
[02:47] <RequinB4> meoblast: gconf-editor, apps/nautilus/
[02:47] <bazhang> Ferrous, please stay on topic
[02:47] <meoblast001> RequinB4, that just makes the icons go away
[02:47] <magnetron> meoblast001→ no, you are confusing yourself. i've been asking "what software are you trying to install" for 30 minutes, i've completely wasted my time trying to help you. good bye
[02:47] <Dwade09> Ferrous,  no one in #tor would help me.
[02:47] <RequinB4> meoblast: there is a setting there that makes it not draw the desktop, its not the menu you're thinking of
[02:47] <meoblast001> !troll | magnetron
[02:47] <bazhang> !tor | Dwade09
[02:47] <Ferrous> bazhang, what is the topic? :) i dont mean to veer off, perhaps if i had a better idea the strict topic in the room it would help.
[02:47] <Ferrous> haha, aww :[
[02:47] <vecsigma> anyone know why my vim in ubunto doesn't show colors when modifying ruby files?  I made sure vi-ruby installed
[02:47] <Dwade09> Ferrous,  may i pm you? for trouble shoot or you may join me in #tor
[02:48] <meoblast001> wtf
[02:48] <meoblast001> i got kicked
[02:48] <bazhang> meoblast001, dont.
[02:48] <meoblast001> dont?
[02:48] <meoblast001> what did i do?
[02:48] <RequinB4> bazhang: i had that problem earlier, ubottu is decidedly unnhelpful with !tor
[02:48] <meoblast001> i asked questions and magnetron started cussing at me
[02:48] <Dwade09> bazhang,  it is not for irc.
[02:48] <Ferrous> haha. Oh my, the drama. I shal run off now...
[02:49] <Gyron> ok, look, I just loaded the live cd for 8.10 and it took me straight to the command line interface. I want the GUI. How do I load it>
[02:49] <Gyron> ?
[02:49] <bazhang> Dwade09, you can check tor/privoxy faq; if you have any particular questions then ask.
[02:49] <declan> bazhang, I quit all the synaptic things and ran apt-get install ubuntu-unrestricted-extras, and it said syanptic was interrreupted, and to run dpkg --configure -a
[02:49] <declan> So I did...and its doing the same exact thing it was before
[02:49] <bazhang> declan, run that with the sudo
[02:49] <declan> Yeah, I did
[02:49] <orlando> anyone can tell me why I keep getting a PERMISSION DENIED when I try to install a printer?
[02:49] <declan> sorry didn't specify
[02:49] <bazhang> declan, please paste.ubuntu.com with the errors
[02:50] <Dwade09> well in the browser it sayes it is enabled but when i start vidalia it gives me an error of Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to ensure the correct name and location of your Tor executable is specified. and in the settings general tab it shows Tor in the text box, . but still wont work.
[02:50] <Gyron> ok, look, I just loaded the live cd for 8.10 and it took me straight to the command line interface. I want the GUI. How do I load it?
[02:50] <declan> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/m7fd42ecf
[02:50] <vecsigma> anyone know why my vim in ubunto doesn't show colors when modifying ruby files?  I made sure vi-ruby installed
[02:51] <eseven73> vecsigma: have you tried Emacs yet?
[02:51] <Logikos> help please, i've figured out how to configure samba so taht my windows computers can see my shares on linux, but how do i see the windows shares from linux ? (ubuntu 8.04 LTS)
[02:51] <bazhang> RequinB4, might I PM you?
[02:51] <RequinB4> bazhang: if you feel it is necessary
[02:51] <orlando> Logikos just make the shares in windows. there is nothing ewls to do as Samba will do the rest
[02:52] <recon61> ﻿KlrSpz: sorry but i stumped.
[02:52] <KlrSpz> recon61: yeah same here :(
[02:52] <Logikos> orlando: the shares are made and visible from other windows computers ... but where do i go in ubuntu to view them?
[02:52] <KlrSpz> never had this much trouble installing nvidia drivers
[02:52] <dr_willis> Logikos,  use the gnome file manager,  it has a network/remote places item, that should show the machines. You may want to edit the smb.conf file to be on the same workgroup as your windows machine
[02:53] <orlando> Logikos, places.....network
[02:53] <Gyron> someone help me plz? I just loaded the live cd for 8.10 and it took me to the Command Line interface. BusyBox v.1.10.2. I want a GUI
[02:53] <dr_willis> Logikos,  ive had some issues in the past with windows shres ot always showing up.. ive had to  browse to the window machine, then type in the share name.. once it sees/accesses the share. I bookmark it
[02:53] <recon61> ﻿KlrSpz: had lots of problems with ubuntu 6 , but since then 8.4 it's installed itself for me
[02:53] <KlrSpz> recon61: yeah same :( i'm so stressed about it :(
[02:54] <Logikos> orlando, dr_willis: thanks
[02:54] <orlando> no problems
[02:54] <declan> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/m7fd42ecf
[02:54] <orlando> KlrSpz just move to 8.04 hardy
[02:54] <Gyron> dr_willis: How do I get the GUI to load up with 8.10?
[02:55] <KlrSpz> orlando: well i came FROM that... how do i downgrade?
[02:55] <Logikos> orlando, dr_willis: is there a way to mount the location such as in this case smb://im01/shared/ ... and have ubuntu recreat the map ... or mount each time i boot ?
[02:55] <KlrSpz> orlando: i don't have the luxury of formatting/re-installing right now
[02:55] <recon61> ﻿KlrSpz: have you tried envyng
[02:55] <dr_willis> Logikos,  theres varioyus ways you can mount smb shares..  you can even put entrys for them in the/etc/fstab if you wanted
[02:56] <Gyron> dr_willis: What about my request?
[02:56] <dr_willis> Logikos,  you may want to read the  samba-books in the samba-doc package
[02:56] <Logikos> dr_willis:  alright, thanks
[02:56] <dr_willis> Gyron,  if its going to busybox its crashing badly early on would be my guess.
[02:56] <ext> hello
[02:56] <ext> i am having some difficulty installing TWIN window manager
[02:56] <KlrSpz> recon61: i guess i can try that, didn't really want to though
[02:56] <bazhang> declan, just a sec
[02:56] <ext> there appears to be some error during "make" stage
[02:56] <ext> if anyone has compiled this manager please offer a hand
[02:56] <declan> bazhang, no problemo
[02:57] <dr_willis> ext,  twin - last i looked was the name of a 'terminal emulator' that sort of worked like a window manager.. and it was in the repos
[02:57] <dr_willis> !info twin
[02:57] <dr_willis> hmm guess it got removed.
[02:57] <orlando> KlrSpz  your grub loader should have the older version in there. When booting press Esc and chose the version you want/ the beauty of Linux keeps all the old staff
[02:57] <ext> dr_willis: twin is a WM that can run in TTY
[02:57] <bazhang> declan, it may take a bit, looks like it has finally connected (worth the wait)
[02:57] <ext> dr_willis: as i recall, having used it at some point
[02:58] <declan> bazhang, it did this 10 times. It connects, tries forever, then times out and tries another source
[02:58] <dr_willis> ext,  well its not really a wm in the 'x' sence of the term.. and i have used it befor.. but it started getitng flakey on many disrtos i tried it on
[02:58] <ext> dr_willis: oh, i see
[02:58] <recon61> g'night and g'luck
[02:58] <ext> dr_willis: could you perhaps help with the installation
[02:58] <dr_willis> ext,  if you want multi-terms in a window. You may want to try out 'terminator' if you need  it just in X.
[02:58] <bazhang> declan, how long has this been going on?
[02:58] <dr_willis> ext,  ive not installed it or messed with it in ages..  and i go to work in 3 min.
[02:58] <ext> dr_willis: oh okay thanks
[02:59] <chaisy> anybody speak in chinese?
[02:59] <KlrSpz> orlando: no that just has an older kernel
[02:59] <declan> bazhang, started it an hour ago and let it go for a while, when I was doing the GUI one. This one is in the terminal now, but doing the exact same thing
[02:59] <dr_willis> ext,  i also have had issues with twin in the console under the last few disrtos ive tried it in. I Imagine you just need to install a lot of the dev files it needs to compile. There MAY be ppa repos for it also.
[02:59] <orlando> that older kerel would be the older version ( dongrade)
[02:59] <bazhang> chaisy, /join #ubuntu-cn or -tw, -hk
[02:59] <hololight> gnome system monitor and top/free are showing two very different amounts of used ram.... ideas?
[02:59] <KlrSpz> orlando: i did an ubuntu upgrade to intrepid, it doesn't keep a partition around of a backup of older ubuntu installs....
[02:59] <chaisy> thanks
[03:00] <Logikos> dr_willis: instaed is there a way i can create a shortcut on the desktop to a network location, such as smb://im01/shared/ ... i to be honest have no clue how to even make a shortcut in ubuntu
[03:00] <orlando> oh! that is because you did not chose to do it
[03:00] <bazhang> you can only run one instance of apt at a time declan
[03:00] <orlando> nothing you can do now about that
[03:00] <orlando> sorry KplSpz
[03:01] <TJ-421> I'm trying to set the Windows/super key to a keyboard shortcut in ubuntu 8.10.  The system lets me select the super key on its own, but not super+any other key.   also, when I try to use  backspace to clear, it instead moves me to the top of the keyboard shortcuts list rather than clearing the key combination.  any ideas?
[03:01] <declan> bazhang, only one instance is running...I think my sources might be messed up or something
[03:01] <bobbycheetah> ubuntu 8.10 on dell d600.  cannot type in terminal,  can select app/places/system dropdowns, but but dropdowns don't appear.  i can move from window to window  with mouse and click on them.  have to use power button on laptop to get shutdown menu.  i've tried restart and power off/on.  any ideas?   was working fine all day. this just started occurring.
[03:02] <bazhang> declan, care to pastebin them? the sources.list?
[03:02] <declan> Where is that, bazhang?
[03:02] <orlando> Tj: yep, if you want windows things just use windows
[03:02] <bazhang> declan, cat /etc/apt/sources.list -->paste.ubuntu.com
[03:03] <KlrSpz> ugh, i HATE qt
[03:03] <hololight> orlando: how was that a helpful comment?
[03:03] <TJ-421> orlando: But the windows key works fine on my desktop that runs ubuntu 8.04.  I can't help that the laptop came with a windows key, but the super key is commonly used in unix.
[03:03] <orlando> oops! sorry
[03:03] <Quscbile_> Is it true that the next version of Firefox will have built in support for vorbis and theora?
[03:04] <orlando> what I meant is that really ubunto is so much more that windows
[03:05] <orlando> and people should not expect ubunto to act loke windows
[03:05] <eseven73> orlando: you keep saying 'ubunto' it's Ubuntu
[03:05] <orlando> sorry again :(
[03:05] <TJ-421> orlando: How am I expecting ubuntu to act like windows when I want the super key to open a new gnome-terminal?
[03:05] <eseven73> I agree with you though orlando :)
[03:06] <declan> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/m135c7ce1
[03:06] <orlando> thanks eseven
[03:06] <bazhang> TJ-421, you can try mapping, but that key is normally reserved for compiz
[03:07] <orlando> anyone knows why I get permission denied even when using admin permisisons?
[03:07] <hololight> orlando: perhaps you can explain to us all how a super + 'key' is a windows feature?
[03:08] <bazhang> orlando, doing what
[03:08] <mloyer> TJ-421: You can do that with the "ubuntu Tweak" tool
[03:08] <LaFonda> Hello
[03:08] <orlando> bazhang : when trying to install an epson printer
[03:08] <zzlyzq> orlando maybe your file is using by another process
[03:08] <Cream> Is Ubuntu based on Debian?
[03:08] <zzlyzq> cream yeah!!!
[03:08] <bazhang> orlando, you checked /msg ubottu cups yet?
[03:08] <KlrSpz> dayumn
[03:09] <orlando> nope will do now thanks bazhang
[03:09] <Cream> zzlyzq, new exploit for debian based linux
[03:09] <KlrSpz> guess what
[03:09] <TJ-421> bazhang: interesting, although the keyboard shortcuts dialog originally recognized my win key as "Super L", mapping the win key to Mod4 through the keyboard preferences worked perfectly.  Thank you!
[03:09] <bazhang> !offtopic | Cream
[03:09] <Cream> whatever bazhang <3
[03:10] <Amer30> please guys help
[03:10] <Amer30> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82278/
[03:10] <bazhang> Amer30, ask a question
[03:10] <Amer30> how can i fix it
[03:11] <Lancelot> how do I get compiz to make a sphere? it doesn't seem to work for me...
[03:11] <bazhang> Lancelot, you checked the plugins? enabled the 3d drivers for your card? asked in #compiz-fusion?
[03:12] <Lancelot> bazhang: i'll join that channel. thank you! :)
[03:12] <Amer30> bazhang did u read my paste by anychance
[03:13] <mloyer> Amer30: Try installing libstdc++5
[03:13] <bazhang> Amer30, what is the issue; what are you trying to do
[03:13] <mgolisch> yeah the file is in there definetly
[03:13] <mgolisch> apt-file says so
[03:13] <[TiZ]> Hi. I used a repository to install OpenOffice 3 some time ago. Now, I'm trying to work on a paper for a college class. Trying to type in an 8 page paper is, well, painful. I want to go back to OpenOffice 2.4, but when I added the repository and updated, it pulled a whole bunch of packages. Is there any way to automatically revert?
[03:13] <Amer30> ok i have light scribe i just installed simple light scribe software and from lacies one every time i run lacies one i got that message
[03:15] <rogan> Quick question. I just opened up my new Western Digital 1tb external drive. Do I need to configure it on a windows or mac computer before I use it? there is a setup.exe and a few other stuff
[03:15] <Amer30> i have libstdc++.so.5 in lightscribe common directory
[03:15] <Amer30> but 4L-gui application will not run from lacies
[03:16] <bazhang> rogan, are you going to be sharing it with other OSes?
[03:16] <rogan> bazhang most likely no but perhaps
[03:17] <[TiZ]> Hi. I used a repository to install OpenOffice 3 some time ago. Now, I'm trying to work on a paper for a college class. Trying to type in an 8 page paper is, well, painful. I want to go back to OpenOffice 2.4, but when I added the repository and updated, it pulled a whole bunch of packages. Is there any way to automatically revert?
[03:17] <mib_j5n9g0> Does anyone know where I can find NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX400 drivers for Ubuntu 8.10?
[03:17] <carrot9>  /quit
[03:17] <mloyer> Amer30: try adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH="./" before your command just to see
[03:18] <mloyer> mib_j5n9g0: you must install the nvidia legacy drivers
[03:18] <Amer30> nothing
[03:18] <Amer30> how will i do that
[03:18] <Amer30> ﻿LD_LIBRARY_PATH="./"
[03:18] <lat> Is there a program like Dragonfly Naturally Speaking for linux?
[03:18] <Amer30> just that?
[03:18] <FloodBot1> Amer30: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <rogan> Bazhang: so that would be the only deciding factor?
[03:18] <duanedesign> TiZ: they have 2.4 on the OO site
[03:18] <duanedesign> http://download.openoffice.org/2.4.2/index.html
[03:18] <Amer30> ok sorry
[03:19] <Amer30> so should i install libstdc++5
[03:19] <Amer30> i don't think i have that installed
[03:19] <mloyer> Amer30: try to install it
[03:19] <Amer30> what is that library anyway
[03:20] <supergirl^> yikes
[03:20] <khafra> I used badblocks on a new external drive that keeps giving me problems. It started 18 hours ago and it's still going.  If the manpage is right about the blocksize and block count, it's up to 1.2TB now, and it's only a 1TB disk
[03:20] <[TiZ]> duanedesign: That's not the ubuntu way. I want to disable the 3.0 repository and revert all the packages I got from it.
[03:20] <bazhang> rogan, not really, but would be a good idea to consider that, especially if you share with XP/Vista
[03:20] <khafra> What could be going wrong?
[03:20] <redvamp128> quick question -- I want to install the Opera 10 alpha in ubuntu-- Found the directory decided the Debian would be the best one-- but which one here to download. http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10.0-Alpha-1/intel-linux/
[03:20] <rogan> Bazhang: ok thanks.
[03:21] <daaaman64> anyone know if there is a way to tile or cascade windows in xfce?
[03:21] <the0> anyone have a few minutes to help out a first time user? drop me a message if you can spare a few.
[03:21] <[TiZ]> revdamp: Do you have KDE?
[03:21] <bazhang> the0, best to ask the channel; if someone knows they will answer
[03:22] <aiuw> Where can I find the DarkRoom theme for ubuntu 8.04 ? I just want to download the files...
[03:22] <redvamp128> yes kubuntu desktop
[03:22] <duanedesign> Tiz : sudo apt get pure version 3.0  then install 2.4
[03:22] <redvamp128> but normally just run gnome (default) sometimes-- the LXDE
[03:22] <the0> sorry, bazhamg didnt want to clog up the works with network connections
[03:22] <[TiZ]> revdamp128: KDE 4, or KDE 3?
[03:22] <redvamp128> KDE3 and 4.0
[03:22] <duanedesign> TiZ:sotty sudo apt get purge
[03:23] <mloyer> redvamp128: then thake the qt4 gcc4 version
[03:23] <Amer30> hey guys i have libsdc++6 do i have to install libsdc++5 ass well?
[03:23] <[TiZ]> duanedesign: That won't take all the packages with it, will it? Not even with Aptitude.
[03:23] <redvamp128> Static one or not?
[03:23] <mloyer> Amer30: if you want apps compiled against v5 to work yes
[03:23] <[TiZ]> revdamp:, no. You can't have KDE3 and 4. Here, let me put it this way. Are you on Hardy or Intrepid?
[03:23] <the0> cannot find network manger icon on my desktop, is it the image of the two monitors in the upper right hand of the screen?
[03:24] <redvamp128> Hardy and in my menu-- when I sign in there is a kde 3.5 and also KDE4.0
[03:24] <redvamp128> both work
[03:24] <Amer30> do i have to uninstall 4L-gui applications and install lib first then install it again? or
[03:24] <jtaji> the0: that's it
[03:24] <bazhang> the0, the nm-applet yes
[03:24] <aiuw> Where can I find the DarkRoom theme for ubuntu 8.04 ? I just want to download the files... Any place to get it?
[03:24] <bazhang> aiuw, check gnome-look.org
[03:24] <mloyer> Amer30: just installing the lib v5 should work
[03:24] <[TiZ]> revdamp128: Then get opera_10.00.4102.gcc4.qt3_i386.deb
[03:25] <unop> the0, is network-manager running?
[03:25] <Amer30> ok i will try that
[03:25] <the0> my wireless router is connected to a pc running XP, the wireless network is not showing up in my NM
[03:25] <awsoonn_> another problem I've been havin is that I can' tuse my touchpad, it freaks out and the mouse goes all over and clicks things at the speed of light, bu tmy wireless mouse is fine, any ideas on a fix?
[03:25] <aiuw> bazhang, is that where ubuntu gets it official themes from that it packages and release?
[03:25] <redvamp128> Thanks -- I already have it running in wine and it is fast
[03:25] <hikenboot> hello anyone in here know why I would get a blank screen with flashing cursor instead of my bootsplash I created?
[03:26] <Amer30> wow
[03:26] <Amer30> thanks guys a lot
[03:26] <SSilver2k> lo all.  ive been searching but cant find a correct answer.  i have a usb gps that sometimes freezes and wont work until i unplug it and plug it back in.  it uses the cypress m8 driver.  how can i unload and load the module back in so i reuse it without unplugging it?
[03:26] <Amer30> it's working now
[03:26] <Amer30> :)
[03:27] <obi_> how do i add a file to a directory?
[03:27] <Lancelot> is there anyway to save my entire ubuntu system (including settings and programs and whatnot) to a cd so that I can boot it from another computer as-is?
[03:27] <bruenig> obi_: cp
[03:28] <unop> SSilver2k, have a look at the output of lsmod - you should find it there
[03:28] <bazhang> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 aiuw this?
[03:28] <bruenig> Lancelot: yes, takes a lot of time, obnoxious, also the cd would obviously be immutable so any changes you made afterwards wouldn't work, also your hardware configs would probably fail on another computer
[03:28] <Lancelot> this is true
[03:29] <unop> Lancelot, it'd be tough - a CD is quite limited in size for that task
[03:29] <bazhang> Lancelot, you can remaster a live cd
[03:29] <bazhang> !remaster | Lancelot
[03:29] <bruenig> it wouldn't be too tough when you realize that ubuntu live cds are unnecessarily massive
[03:29] <Lancelot> okay.... well is there anyway to keep my preferences and programs to load onto another ubuntu on another computer? i have an external harddrive, that should work
[03:29] <obi_> breunig: cp? im not sure what that means
[03:29] <bruenig> obi_: explain what are you doing
[03:30] <bazhang> Lancelot, easiest is the persistent usb flash key
[03:30] <unop> bruenig, he wants his settings too - however squashed stuff is, fitting those in is an ask
[03:30] <Lancelot> how does that work?
[03:30] <bazhang> !usb | Lancelot
[03:30] <bazhang> Lancelot, check the last link
[03:30] <Lancelot> what's a persistent live usb install?
[03:30] <duanedesign> TiZ: you meeam its dependencies
[03:30] <duanedesign> TiZ: apt-rdepends searches through the APT cache to find package dependencie
[03:31] <obi_> bruenig: im trying to add this "fdi" file to HAL so i can change my touchpad settings heres a link
[03:31] <obi_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[03:32] <fiXXXerMet> What is the name of the ubuntu-based linux distrobution that is CLI only?
[03:32] <[TiZ]> duanedesign: I guess I could try that
[03:32] <RenzoreK> Before I used to get a boot screen where the progress bar was loading back and forth, now it does the same but exit and I see a a long text version right afterwards. How do I restore it like default or stop this (since Im trying to make use of the usplash-smooth) package
[03:32] <eseven73> Server
[03:32] <bruenig> obi_: ok so you want to open up a text file, enter the text, then save it
[03:32] <vorian> fiXXXerMet: ubuntu server
[03:33] <obi_> bruenig: yes
[03:33] <bruenig> obi_: so choose a text editor...
[03:33] <Aquina> I was able to solve all my problems but now I ended up with another (stupid) one. A software installation requires me to change the CD while the installer is active. I don't want to force unmount it manually and leave a zombie behind. Is there any best practice solution for that?
[03:33] <unop> obi_, you could use  lshal or hal-device to find it if HAL detects the device
[03:33] <[TiZ]> duanedesign: No such program on my system. I'll disable all the other repositores on my system, do an apt-cache list, remove those, and then reinstall.
[03:33] <SSilver2k> what do i use once i find the module in lsmod?
[03:34] <SSilver2k> rmmod and insmod?
[03:34] <fiXXXerMet> vorian: No - it is aimed to be a desktop OS but without X
[03:34] <egc> hi, if i have roadrunner, is it possible for my box to have a fully qualified domain name?
[03:34] <obi_> bruenig: is gedit a text editor, and then i what? enter the text and save to that location?
[03:34] <unop> SSilver2k, rmmod to unload it -- modprobe should be used in favour of insmod - to load a module
[03:34] <bruenig> obi_: yep
[03:35] <SSilver2k> unop: thank you.  trying it
[03:35] <unop> SSilver2k, infact, you can do away with rmmod too and just use modprobe  (modprobe -r)
[03:35] <SSilver2k> oh cool
[03:36] <hexbase> Hi people
[03:36] <hexbase> ardour doesnt works and im sure its my Sound Config. Anybody knows?
[03:38] <Guest41923> hello all
[03:38] <SSilver2k> grr, its saying cypress_m8 is in use when i try to remove it.  is there anyway to force it
[03:38] <obi_> breunig: and so i have my text file, where do i save it to, and how do i get there?
[03:38] <Synx_hm> Anyone ever seen a BIOS change drive numbers, sometimes when i boot my /boot is hd(0,1) and sometimes its hd(1,1)  causing all sorts of horrid grub errors i dont get it
[03:38] <Guest41923> I am using kopete and can not get webcam
[03:38] <Guest41923> can i have help?
[03:39] <SJrX> Hmmmmm for some reason when I do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb I only get a write speed of 500 KB/s in VMWare to a USB drive. If I do /dev/zero -> /dev/null I get 27 MB / s If I do /dev/sdb -> /dev/null I get 8 MB/s. If I do /dev/urandom -> /dev/sdb I get 2 MB/s. Not sure why?
[03:40] <Guest41923> webcam in kopete help
[03:41] <SSilver2k> Guest41923: the topic says to be paitient.  im sure someone can help you.  i cant.
[03:41] <dkulchenko> Suppose I have a directory with files and folders. I'm looking for a file format, which can store files in such a way that I can "mount" the "image" in such a way that the contents of the directory merge with the contents of the "image", and can then be unmounted, returning the original directory to its previous state. The "mounting" also needs to be done instantaneously, like an ISO image mounting, not like a .tar.gz archive. ISO f
[03:41] <dkulchenko> iles work fine, to mount it you either require fuse or administrator privileges, and I do not know of a way to merge the contents with the directory while mounting. ZIP, GZIP, TAR, and so on do not work, because to merge the contents, it would take a while to unarchive. You also could not "unmount" it, removing the "mounted" files. Basically, here are my requirements: can be run as a regular user, (preferably) does not require exter
[03:41] <dkulchenko> nal programs, can be "mounted" and "unmounted", without leaving the files behind, like an archive, and can "mount" and "unmount" instantaneously.
[03:41] <FloodBot1> dkulchenko: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:41] <bazhang> Guest41923, did you check that your webcam is supported?
[03:42] <obi_> how do i save a text file to the location i want?
[03:42] <robert40> hello
[03:42] <robert40> I am trying to get my wireless working
[03:42] <robert40> anyone that can help me
[03:42] <fosco_> obi_: save as in gedit
[03:42] <bazhang> robert40, which wifi chip
[03:42] <unop> SJrX, it kinda makes sense - write speeds are generally much much lower than read speeds - especially from USB devices -- also, reading from /dev/{zero,null} is much faster than /dev/urandom  by virtue of how /dev/urandom works
[03:42] <SJrX> um
[03:43] <obi_> fosco: it says i dont have the right permissions, is there a command line way?
[03:43] <jasonbc> can someone here help me with setting up this home server i'm trying to build here...?
[03:43] <SJrX> unop yes but why is it faster for me to write from /dev/urandom then /dev/zero
[03:43] <bazhang> obi_, what file are you editing
[03:43] <unop> SJrX, what's unusual tho is the 500K/s write speeds you get
[03:43] <SJrX> Yeah
[03:43] <the> nice
[03:43] <obi_> im trying to save a file in etc/hal/fdi/policy
[03:43] <hexbase> /usr/bin/echomixer
[03:43] <SJrX> the /dev/urandom 2.7 MB/s is the bottleneck of /dev/urandom
[03:44] <hexbase> ardour doesnt works and im sure its my Sound Config. Anybody knows?
[03:44] <unop> SJrX, you said - /dev/zero gives you ~27 MB/s - that's faster than urandom
[03:44] <SJrX> Yeah
[03:44] <unop> SJrX, i don't get it - what are you asking really? :)
[03:44] <bazhang> Guest41923, lets keep this in channel please
[03:45] <SJrX> zero -> sdb is 500 KB/s. zero -> null is 27.8 MB/s. urandom -> sdb is 2.8 MB/s, urandom -> null is 2.8 MB/s
[03:45] <SJrX> For some reason zero -> sdb is REALLY slow
[03:45] <jasonbc> can someone here help me with setting up this home server i'm trying to build here...?
[03:46] <bazhang> jasonbc, please ask a more specific question?
[03:46] <obi_> bazhang: um trying to save the text file to etc/hal/fdi/policy
[03:46] <unop> SJrX, have you played with the blocksizes?
[03:46] <SJrX> no
[03:46] <bazhang> obi_, macbook?
[03:46] <Guest41923>  i see my webcam in kopete, but can not send it neither receive other part webcam
[03:46] <obi_> bazrhang: eee pc 900
[03:46] <aiuw> bazhang, something like that... this is the darkroom theme I am referring to: http://lifehacker.com/5064515/ubuntu-810-gets-optional-darkroom-theme
[03:47] <bazhang> Guest41923, did you check the webcam factoid? to see if it is supported?
[03:47] <unop> SJrX, try increasing the blocksizes --   dd ... bd=16384
[03:47] <bazhang> aiuw, that is the closest you can get with hardy afaik
[03:47] <unop> SJrX, err,  dd ... bs=16384
[03:47] <fosco_> obi_: yo have to open that file with admin level sudo gedit file, that way you'll be able to save it
[03:47] <bazhang> !webcam | Guest41923
[03:47] <Guest41923> suported under Kopete, you mean?
[03:47] <unop> !gksudo | fosco_ , obi_
[03:47] <hexbase> ardour doesnt works and im sure its my Sound Config. Anybody knows?
[03:47] <aiuw> bazhang, there isn't a way to get it out of 8.10 files?
[03:47] <bazhang> Guest41923, have a look there
[03:47] <ancker_> hello
[03:48] <bazhang> aiuw, not that I know of easily
[03:48] <aiuw> ok
[03:48] <SJrX> that seems to work unop, which is weird I did this three weeks ago without bs, and it's fine
[03:48] <SJrX> Now I'm getting 9.04 MB/s, except it's dropping really fast
[03:48] <laughzilla> anyone know how to fix a screensaver in ubuntu? my Screensaver (the default one in ubuntu 8.04) is not working. at the moment when it should go idle and fade to black, the screen fades to black, and then wakes up again instantly. how do i fix this? :)
[03:49] <jasonbc> bazhang - well , i am trying to set up win xp as a server OS but i can't get my ubuntu system to connect to the internet ....., my setup is - "internet" , "modem" , "xp box" (with a four port router pci card) , "my ubuntu box" (connected to the four port card..
[03:49] <unop> SJrX, might be drive caching at play there
[03:49] <techqbert> I just have to say Ubuntu 8.10 is great.  It's stable and very functional.
[03:49] <rainwalker> after mounting my USB drive, I can read/write to it just fine. If I right-click and check it's properties, it suddenly becomes read-only...is this normal?
[03:49] <the> SJrx upgrade ti Gbit ether
[03:49] <jasonbc> or would it be better to use ubuntu as the server system...?
[03:50] <gofg> Anyone familiar with rTorrent? How does one make a .torrent file from a directory using it? (#rtorrent is idle)
[03:50] <SJrX> hmmmm wow
[03:50] <bazhang> jasonbc, internet sharing?
[03:50] <ancker_> ..
[03:50] <SJrX> it just entirely dropped to nothing
[03:50] <jasonbc> bazhang - Yes
[03:50] <bazhang> jasonbc, did you /msg ubottu ics  ?
[03:50] <jasonbc> no
[03:50] <aiuw> bazhang, what theme do you use personally?
[03:50] <jasonbc> what is that
[03:50] <hexbase> ardour doesnt works and im sure its my Sound Config. Anybody knows?
[03:50] <Guest41923> to bazhang I see the image I am capturing in my webcam ...does it mean it supported and installed?
[03:51] <the> lol
[03:51] <ancker_> so?
[03:51] <obi_> fosco: its throwing an error when gedit opens, it says to make sure i typed the location correctly
[03:52] <fosco_> so, make sure
[03:52] <obi_> fosco: do i need to navigate to the directory first and then enter the command?
[03:52] <fosco_> navigate or give the path
[03:52] <fosco_> gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[03:53] <DigitalFiz> is v4l the newest/best for webcams? and which program uses it?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> jasonbc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713874
[03:54] <luckyone> is there a tool for monitoring tunnels
[03:54] <luckyone> or setting up secure tunnels
[03:54] <luckyone> via ssh to remote servers?
[03:54] <luckyone> yes, gSTM
[03:57] <Guest95670> Hey there.. is there a possibility to watch videos (or DVB-S Signal) from Terminal?!
[03:59] <Guest41923> my webcam works but i can not send/receive webcam on kopete  ...anyone helps?
[03:59] <aiuw> Guest41923, need more detail please
[04:00] <Guest41923>  mini webcam TRUST 1200
[04:00] <thecaleb> man u need new cam
[04:00] <thecaleb> and dont bay somting that says Made In China
[04:00] <Guest41923> kopete 0.12.7
[04:00] <bazhang> thecaleb, thats not helpful
[04:01] <thecaleb> :) just joke
[04:01] <bazhang> thecaleb, please take chat elsewhere
[04:01] <eseven73> that leaves every item at Walmart out. heh
[04:01] <tupac> hello, what is the driver for nvidia 9800 gt 1gb ddr3?
[04:03] <tupac> hello, what is the driver for nvidia 9800 gt 1gb ddr3? i need to install Envy?
[04:03] <bazhang> tupac, what version of ubuntu
[04:03] <tupac> intrepid ibex
[04:04] <mcpancakes> hey all, I've got an NTFS partition at /dev/sdb2, but Ubuntu won't allow it to be mounted. Using mount, it tells me it lacks an NTFS signature and is not a valid NTFS FS. In the GUI, it tells me 'mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR,SEPARATOR (usually /)', and the mount point is /usbhdd.
[04:04] <rycar> how do I downgrade a package to a previous version?  (and then prevent it from upgrading)
[04:04] <bazhang> tupac did you look in system administration hardware drivers yet?
[04:04] <Guest41923> ola freitas
[04:04] <brendan_> Q: I'm having trouble getting Flash to work in Ubuntu. I've installed the free one, but nothings working. Can someone help?
[04:05] <mcpancakes> the hard drive was recently dropped, so that could be a problem. Another person suggested that the NTFS table (don't know what that is) wasn't properly closed, but if I could by booting to Windows, and doing 'safely remove hardware' I'd be able to mount it. That appeared not to work.
[04:05] <bazhang> brendan_, gnash?
[04:05] <brendan_> bazhang: not gnash, the non-free plugin I guess
[04:05] <mcpancakes> odd thing is, Windows seems to be able to read it fine..
[04:06] <bazhang> brendan_, flashplugin-nonfree?
[04:06] <tupac> bazhang ; in driver hardware. he say, you dont use private drivers  in this system
[04:06] <brendan_> bazhang: THATS the one!
[04:06] <Guest95670> here is an eager project.. i want to have a webcamimage on my Desktop which refreshes itself.. i want it to be integrated as if it was part of the Wallpaper.. how can i do that?!
[04:07] <bazhang> brendan_, could you elaborate on 'doesnt work'?
[04:07]  * Doonz just successfully converted someone onto Ubuntu
[04:08] <brendan_> bazhang:  i installed via synaptic and still get (after restart) 'install plugin' instead of flash on webpages
[04:08] <tupac> bazhang: in driver hardware. he say me, you dont use private drivers  in this system, and the list is empty.
[04:09] <tupac> bazhang or not using restricted drivers in this system im spanish my english is poor sorry :S
[04:09] <brendan_> bazhang: I should mention that I'm using 8.04
[04:10] <tupac> ok thank ;)
[04:10] <tupac> another question what is the spanish chanel?
[04:10] <bazhang> !es
[04:10] <tupac>  ubuntu!es?
[04:11] <aiuw> brendan_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:11] <bazhang> tupac, #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <brendan_> aiuw tried that...but i'll try again.
[04:11] <tupac> ok ok thank you very much :)
[04:11] <bazhang> tupac, seems the new beta drivers cover that card, but you use at your own risk
[04:12] <mcpancakes> nevermind what I said, solved it.
[04:12] <Chistery> I don't mean to sound remedial or a dullard, but so far I haven't gotten an answer from friends -- is there any way to migrate from amd64 to i386?
[04:12] <Chistery> Without a clean install, that is.
[04:12] <mcpancakes> was pointing mount to the wrong partition, such an idiot..
[04:12] <bazhang> Chistery, full reinstall only
[04:12] <Chistery> Mmm.  I was afraid of that.
[04:12] <Chistery> Looks like I'll have to wait until after finals, then.
[04:13] <brendan_> aiuw: yup, ubuntu-restricted-extras is the latest version.
[04:13] <brendan_> Any other ideas?
[04:13] <aiuw> brendan_, are you trying to get flash to work with firefox?
[04:13] <brendan_> aiuw: Yes
[04:13] <mooglinux> Chistery, the problem is that ALL the apps are compiled for 64bit, and will not function on the 32bit proccessor. nothing short of a full install would work, since oyu would have to reinstall every pakcage anyway.
[04:13]  * Chistery nods.
[04:13] <Chistery> Well, I suspected as much.
[04:14] <Chistery> The problem is, I've installed Ubuntu before on this machine --
[04:14] <mooglinux> its not the most convieniant, but just backup your /home directory and getting back uop and running does quickly
[04:14] <Chistery> And maybe it's attempting to be helpful, but beat all if the last clean install didn't end up amd64 instead of i386.
[04:14] <aiuw> Ha, okay, what a pain, I just had to do that a few hours ago... give the packages 'adobe-flashplugin' a try...
[04:15] <Chistery> mooglinux, the only problem I have right now here is that I'm without backup media.
[04:15] <brendan_> aiuw:  so Firefox is the problem? Is there another browser or distro that would work better?
[04:15] <Chistery> (My external HD, anyway.)
[04:15] <Chistery> It'll just have to wait.
[04:16] <Chistery> In the meantime, is there any way to be certain that Ubuntu goes i386-only this time?
[04:16] <mooglinux> just make you sure you downlaoded the right cd image
[04:16]  * Chistery nods.
[04:16] <mooglinux> you just got the wrong one by mistake last tiem
[04:17] <Chistery> Well, that's the thing --
[04:17] <Chistery> It WAS the 386 image, unless I'm misremembering.
[04:17] <brendan_> aiuw: Adobe Plugin worked - thanks mate
[04:18] <aiuw> :)
[04:19] <DanaG> argh, anyone else have fglrx break with the latest kernel update?  I now get a hang.
[04:19] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f76ab2895
[04:19] <Chistery> Thank you for your advice, mooglinux.
[04:20] <mooglinux> np
[04:22] <Guest41923> may i get help how to send and receive webcam images over kopete?
[04:23] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, where can I get the virtualbox-ose-guest module for linux-image-2.6.24-22-server from? because there isnt in the repos
[04:24] <scunizi> gonzaloaf_laptop, did you install the vbox version from the website or the ose version from the repos?
[04:24] <gonzaloaf_laptop> scunizi, repos, the problem is that I installed the latest kernel
[04:24] <favor> hi. how to use install command, I want to install a directory and subdirectory to one place?
[04:25] <DanaG> argh, fglrx.
[04:25] <Guest41923> webcam kopete someone helps?
[04:25] <favor> a directory content subdirectory , I want to install them at one time. how to use this install to do that?
[04:26] <scunizi> gonzaloaf_laptop, well. you might try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then search again for it.  Otherwise you might consider installing the version off the website .. you won't need the guest modules then... and you'll have usb support.
[04:28] <a1len> Does anyone know of any pad plugins for pcsx2 that support analog for linux?
[04:29] <EruditeHermit> hey, is there a page with information about UDS tomorrow?
[04:29] <favor> a directory content subdirectory , I want to install them at one time. how to use this install to do that?
[04:29] <five> how do i remove my windows partition?
[04:29] <five> gparted?
[04:29] <scunizi> yep
[04:29] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS EruditeHermit
[04:30] <Guest41923> how do i get images from my webcam in kopete?
[04:31] <Guest41923> webcam is set up and works
[04:31] <Guest41923> kopete works as well
[04:31] <Guest41923> kopete recognizes webcam ...
[04:31] <crf> how do you configure the gnome logout button on the upper right of the screen? Mine has logout and switch user, but I also would like a shutdown option.
[04:31] <Guest41923> but send /reeive procedure do not work
[04:32] <scunizi> Guest41923, does the cam work inside of kopete, testing that is?
[04:33] <Guest41923> i gone to configure and adjusted image there
[04:33] <Guest41923> to scunizi : > i gone to configure and adjusted image there
[04:33] <whyameye_> my 32 bit app on my 64 bit Hardy machine is looking in /usr/lib for a library that is in /usr/lib32. It finds the /usr/lib library with the same name which is 64 bit then chokes. How to fix?
[04:34] <Guest41923> under kopete i mean
[04:34] <EruditeHermit> bazhang: thaks
[04:34] <EruditeHermit> thanks*
[04:34] <tsrk> In system monitor, what's the total received?  Is it in the current session, or overall?
[04:34] <Hasbro> Hey
[04:35] <scunizi> Guest41923, I just looked at kopete's site and I can't seem to find any info on webcams.. from the site it looks like kopete isn't designed for a cam much like Pidgin doesn't work with a cam.
[04:35] <Hasbro> If I want something to start with Ubuntu, can I add the .sh file to the Init folder and it'll auto start?
[04:35] <five> how do i completely remove windows and resize my ubuntu partition to use full disk?
[04:35] <tsrk> Hasbro, do you want to start on login or on startup?
[04:35] <five> without re installing ubuntu
[04:35] <tsrk> five, may I pm you?
[04:35] <five> yeah
[04:35] <tsrk> i can walk you through it
[04:35] <tsrk> ok
[04:36] <Hasbro> Any ideas?
[04:36] <tsrk> Hasbro, do you want to start on login or startup?
[04:36] <Hasbro> startup
[04:36] <Hasbro> It's on my server
[04:36] <Hasbro> remotly
[04:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter
[04:37] <tsrk> Hasbro, not sure then
[04:37] <Hasbro> I'm doing it via ssh soo :P
[04:37] <tsrk> Hasbro, I just have a script that I run when I restart my server
[04:37] <Hasbro> Well, that's what I want to stop heh
[04:37] <Wibox> Hey- If I do a software RAID in Linux, if I'm dualbooting Windows, will the drives appear to be different drives in Windows now?
[04:37] <Hasbro> I'd rather it do it automatically
[04:37] <usser> Hasbro, add the line calling the script to /etc/rc.local
[04:37] <whyameye_> I want to add a variable def to the environment when I run an app then I want the variable to be gone. How to do?
[04:38] <sloopy> hasbro, put it in /etc/init.d
[04:38] <tsrk> Hasbro, yeah, i know, if you figure out a good way please pm it to me
[04:38] <tsrk> :O
[04:38] <tsrk> sloopy, really?
[04:38] <Guest41923> what is the command to send private messages in channel?
[04:38] <joeinbend> ﻿Has anyone successfully gotten the pen drivers working on a Compaq TC1000 tablet?
[04:38] <Hasbro> Usser, what's that do?
[04:38] <Hasbro> # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.
[04:38] <tsrk> Guest41923, /msg (user) (message)
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> !pm | Guest41923
[04:38] <sloopy> and then list it in /etc/rc.local
[04:38] <ice_cream> Guest41923, also /query  depending on client
[04:38] <ice_cream> but that opens a private session
[04:39] <usser> Hasbro, it runs the script on startup, only when u boot into multiuser mode though, which should be default anyhow
[04:39] <tsrk> Where is grub stored?
[04:39] <Hasbro> Why is the file empty?
[04:39] <tsrk> If a user deletes their windows partition after installing ubuntu will it delete anything related to grub?
[04:39] <Hasbro> For isntance, I have Nginx installed and it starts on startup, but it's not in that file.
[04:39] <usser> Hasbro, its for user's scripts
[04:39] <Rock-a-Billy> tsrk: /boot/grub
[04:39] <usser> Hasbro, all system scripts are in /etc/init.d
[04:39] <Hasbro> Where are system scripts stored then?
[04:39] <sloopy> hasbro, and then it will run it on boot
[04:39]  * ice_cream nods
[04:39] <Hasbro> So if I place them there, then it'll run on boot?
[04:40] <Hasbro> Just place it in that folder?
[04:40] <usser> Hasbro, you can add yours too but its more complicated
[04:40] <Rock-a-Billy> tsrk: only if they delete the mbr
[04:40] <Hasbro> Is there a guide somewhere usser?
[04:40] <usser> Hasbro, they have to have a special format etc.
[04:40] <tsrk> Rock-a-Billy, ah yeah, i was just dealing with that, can't believe i already forgot :P
[04:40] <sloopy> Hasbro, no, you need to put it in that directory and then list it in rc.local
[04:40] <Descention> i can not ping/ssh/http/https/etc to a specific three servers, whether i'm on the internal or external network.  what are any possible ways that ubuntu can prevent communication to a server and still resolve an ip from a hostname(i can attempt pinging a hostname and it resolves the ip but the packets are dropped)
[04:40] <ice_cream> ah, with the start|stop|restart  arguments?
[04:40] <Derath> Anyone work with camcorders on linux?
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | Derath
[04:40] <whyameye_> Derath: I do a bit. What's up?
[04:41] <Derath> specifically a jvc MG330?
[04:41] <scunizi> Derath, you looking to suck a video off a tape?  avidimux
[04:41] <whyameye_> Derath: no. What are you trying to do?
[04:41] <Derath> Want to know I can do what I want with it before buying it :)
[04:41] <scunizi> like what
[04:41] <whyameye_> Derath: what do you want to do?
[04:41] <Hasbro> So
[04:42] <usser> Hasbro, there was a skeleton  file in /etc/init.d last i remember
[04:42] <Derath> record, pull off of it, edit and brun to dvd
[04:42] <Hasbro> Is there any simple way to have my stuff in init.d and just run on startup?
[04:42] <Hasbro> Like cant I just make an sh file in there? :P
[04:42] <computer_> how do i add people to my address book?
[04:42] <scunizi> Derath, yep.. lots of tools for that. best connection is firewire not usb
[04:42] <usser> Hasbro, basically script has to accept parameters - start, stop, restart
[04:42] <Rock-a-Billy> will debian stable play just as well with hardware as ubuntu 8.10 ? such as for wireless networkcards ?
[04:42] <sloopy> hasbro, no that is where the startup files are stored, you have to list it in rc.local to actually run
[04:42] <micahf> hey, do you know of any good PDF readers for taking notes/annotation ?
[04:42] <Guest41923> someone knows about put  a webcam working on kopete?
[04:43] <Hasbro> okay so in rc.local
[04:43] <usser> Hasbro, when its run your script must check its input and execute different actions based on it
[04:43] <Hasbro> ah
[04:43] <Derath> unfortunately lack of firewire connections scunizi, and sorry Paddy, didn't mean for it to sound that way when I came in :)
[04:43] <Hasbro> okay, so for rc.local I just put the..?
[04:43] <sloopy> usser, scripts in there dont have to accept start/stop/restart/stop
[04:43] <micahf> evince doesn't have any of these features
[04:43] <Hasbro> o.O
[04:43] <Hasbro> So I can just drop an sh script in there sloopy?
[04:43] <usser> sloopy, really?
[04:43] <micahf> I'm about to download adobe reader :(
[04:43] <sloopy> Hasbro, rc.local is run as a batch file
[04:43] <usser> sloopy, well actually yea
[04:43] <Hasbro> O.o
[04:43] <computer_> i added an address book to my panel, so how do i add people to the address book?
[04:43] <scunizi> Derath, a firewire add in card is cheap.. and typically auto recognized by ubuntu
[04:43] <five> what is current ubuntu release?
[04:43] <five> HH?
[04:43] <usser> sloopy, they will get run anyhow, i guess its just convention then
[04:44] <sloopy> Hasbro, you can 'put' anything in there
[04:44] <Derath> But for an express card format? hehe laptops here
[04:44] <Hasbro> And it'll run? :D
[04:44] <scunizi> five no II
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !ibex
[04:44] <Derath> But I will look for one :
[04:44] <usser> Hasbro, also man update-rc.d
[04:44] <five> oh wow
[04:44] <sloopy> usser, yes that is standard convention, but isnt required...
[04:44] <five> how do i update from hh
[04:44] <eseven73> !update
[04:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !upgrade | five
[04:44] <five> thank you
[04:44] <sloopy> usser, all those files are actually pointed to by the files in rcX.d which actually get run themselves
[04:45] <computer_> ANY1?
[04:45] <eseven73> !anyone
[04:45] <usser> sloopy, yea and thats what update-rc.d does, creates symbolic links to that right?
[04:45] <scunizi> Derath, for a laptop.. not sure.. lots have them built in already.. remember there are two sizes of firewire ports.. one that is similar to usb and another that is physically similar to the charging jack on a motorola cell phone but smaller
[04:45] <DanaG> Argh, Catalyst 8.11 seems way broken.
[04:45] <Guest41923> kopete 0.12.7 and webcam TRUST wb 1200p  ...who can help?
[04:45] <kr00l> can i get mythbuntu help?
[04:46] <Derath> scunizi, thanks a lot! I'll look around, will purchase jvc tomorrow :)
[04:46] <Derath> Oh, any recommendations for video edit app?
[04:46] <Hasbro> Okay, well thanks everyone
[04:46] <Hasbro> Have a nice night
[04:46] <Derath> so I can edit and write to dvd?
[04:47] <scunizi> Derath, there's bunches.. but video editing on linux is not quite the same as windows.. sometimes you have to use a couple of apps to get the job done..
[04:47] <Werewoolf> hey anyone here have experience with Sonicwall & getting Ubuntu to traverse WLAN zone?
[04:47] <DigitalFiz> why oh why does this usb capture device crap have to be so simple i just want a driver :(
[04:48] <DanaG> I wish somebody would make an ExpressCard sound card for laptops.
[04:48] <DanaG> I know Creative does... but Creative is scum, in my opinion.
[04:48] <Paddy_EIRE> !lnw | DigitalFiz
[04:48] <DigitalFiz> 0.o
[04:48] <DigitalFiz> and how is that supposed to help? :P
[04:48] <Guest41923> kopete 0.12.7 and webcam TRUST wb 1200p  ...who can help?
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, how is moaning supposed to be helpful ;)
[04:49] <lazar__> Hi,people! I need information about free p2p network!
[04:49] <_2> howto find out why  ( start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /sbin/klogd -- )  exits code one ???
[04:49] <DigitalFiz> Paddy_EIRE, its not but it is a stress releiver ;)
[04:49] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, haven't seen a question yet as to what you're doing that isn't working.
[04:49] <kr00l> can someone help me with mythbuntu or show me where to get it?
[04:49] <DigitalFiz> i been asking for months i just felt like moaning a little its not a simple question
[04:49] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, you wuill find you will be less likely to get help venting in here
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> *wuill
[04:50] <Paddy_EIRE> err
[04:50] <DigitalFiz> i know i know
[04:50] <LinuxJunke> anyone have any info on getting magicjack too work with ubuntu
[04:50] <DigitalFiz> im looking for a correct method for getting drivers to work fro the EasyCap USB2.0 Video Adapter DC60
[04:51] <computer_> !LINUX
[04:51] <DigitalFiz> it uses the stk1160 chipset
[04:51] <kr00l> ick! MagicJack! Why would you do that?!
[04:51] <DanaG> better to research _before_ buying.
[04:51] <DigitalFiz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924504
[04:51] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, reading...
[04:52] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, is this adaptor one that takes audio/video inputs from an analog source and tries to stuff it into a usb port?
[04:52] <DigitalFiz> there is my forum post with a few replies/fellow people with the same problem and even someone saying what might be wrong but i have no idea how to put that together
[04:52] <DigitalFiz> scunizi, yes
[04:52] <U-b-u-n-t-u> since I installed 8.10 my cpu has been running at about 30% and spikes a lot I checked my systems monitor and it says its Xorg running up the cpu... any ideas why?
[04:52] <DigitalFiz> the DC60+ is supposed to work fine but i dont have the DC60+ i have the DC60 hehe
[04:52] <will__> what program do I use to burn an iso image to dvd using ubuntu
[04:52] <LinuxJunke> k3b
[04:52] <usser> will__, brasero or k3b
[04:53] <eseven73> !burn
[04:53] <incadudeF> does ubuntu 8.10 run virtualbox?
[04:53] <DigitalFiz> incadudeF, i got vbox running on mine
[04:53] <zzlyzq> \
[04:53] <Guest41923>  kopete 0.12.7 and webcam TRUST wb 1200p  ...who can help?
[04:53] <LinuxJunke> so i guess thats a no on the magicjack?
[04:53] <DigitalFiz> if you upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 you have to reinstall vbox
[04:53] <zzlyzq> is there a software can listen radio in terminal?
[04:53] <incadudeF> i keep getting an error...
[04:54] <usser> zzlyzq, mplayer
[04:54] <eseven73> !Player
[04:54] <usser> zzlyzq, you mean internet radio?
[04:54] <zzlyzq> yeah! of course
[04:54] <incadudeF> error:
[04:54] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, I know your pain.. I have a web cam I bought years ago that is still one of the best on the market, with interchangeable glass lenses etc. below 1 lux capture etc.. it simply will NOT work because of the chipset and the way it was designed.. unfortunatly there are lots of video type products out there like that. It's getting better but still not great..
[04:54] <usser> zzlyzq, mplayer then
[04:54] <zzlyzq> i am on the way!!!
[04:55] <zzlyzq> thank you
[04:55] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, yeah that see,s rather frustrating :(
[04:55] <DigitalFiz> incadudeF, if you upgraded ubuntu you need to reinstall vbox
[04:55] <Paddy_EIRE> *seems
[04:55] <incadudeF> Unknown error creating VM. VBox status code: -11 (VERR_VERSION_MISMATCH).
[04:55] <ipndrmath> Can anyone help me with a NTLDR and grub problem (Ubuntu & XP dual boot)?
[04:55] <DigitalFiz> you see why its not working? i have no idea how to rectify that
[04:55] <DigitalFiz> i would share it with everyone if i found out how lol
[04:56] <incadudeF> i keep getting this error when running virtualbox : Unknown error creating VM. VBox status code: -11 (VERR_VERSION_MISMATCH)
[04:56] <cyphase> is there an xmoto backport on the way?
[04:56] <DigitalFiz> incadudeF, are you reading what im saying or just pasting random crap?
[04:56] <cliff_> i used wubi installer can i get rid of windows now?
 incadudeF, if you upgraded ubuntu you need to reinstall vbox
[04:56] <incadudeF> oh sorry slow typer
[04:56] <cliff_> nm \
[04:56] <scunizi> incadudeF, if you installed vbox from the repos you may not have the right "guest additions" installed for the current kernel version.. the version of vbox from their site doesn't suffer this problem.
[04:56] <ToddEDM> hey guys,, anyone have the problem of your wireless connection being disconnected when you run a torrent client???
[04:57] <cliff_> can some one help me?
[04:57] <cliff_> i can not open rar files and i already ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install rar unrar
[04:57] <buntuuser> whats up cliff
[04:57] <incadudeF> i uninstalled Virtualbox OSE and installed 2.0.6
[04:58] <DigitalFiz> Paddy_EIRE, scunizi, this problem with my capture device is the last hurdle besides games that I have to overcome to become full linux,
[04:58] <Guest41923> PLEASE HELP about  kopete 0.12.7 and webcam TRUST wb 1200p  ...who can help?
[04:58] <buntuuser> cliff are you usinga gui archiver
[04:58] <cliff_> hmm not sure
[04:58] <cliff_> how do i check?>
[04:58] <buntuuser> are you using file-roller xarchiver or from the cli
[04:58] <DigitalFiz> i was hoping to not have to buy a more expensive capture card though
[04:58] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, I run out of excuses to use windows.. I guess shopping around for what works with linux would help you better in the future
[04:59] <scunizi> incadudeF, you should also have installed build-essential so it would compile it's own kernel mod.. if you did that then it might  be because we had a kernel update lately and you need to just reinstall vbox from the site to have it recompile the kernel driver
[04:59] <buntuuser> ok what *buntu version are you using
[04:59] <cliff_> using ubuntu 8.10 installed with wubi
[04:59] <cew_anti> 7j7
[04:59] <cew_anti> juki
[04:59] <LinuxJunke> mounting magicjack shows up as cdrom
[04:59] <DigitalFiz> incadudeF, just reinstall vbox i promise you im 99% sure that will fix it
[04:59] <LinuxJunke> how 2 force the mount ?
[04:59] <ipndrmath> Maybe my question got lost in the chaos. Can anyone help with a NTLDR/ Grub question?
[05:00] <incadudeF> link to the updated version please
[05:00] <buntuuser> ok if you open a terminal and type file-roller what happens
[05:00] <DigitalFiz> incadudeF, google.com
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | ipndrmath
[05:00] <scbchoreo> helo
[05:00] <scbchoreo> can i ask something
[05:00] <incadudeF> i downloaded and installed: virtualbox-2.0_2.0.6-39765_Ubuntu_intrepid_i386.deb
[05:00] <DigitalFiz> incadudeF, if doesnt even have to be the updated version just reinstall it so it will build the new kernel module
[05:01] <incadudeF> ok will do.
[05:01] <Guest41923> it seems  i am no lucky on getting help tonight
[05:01] <cliff_> archive manager opens
[05:01] <Guest41923> thank you to all who did try ...I really appreciate
[05:01] <buntuuser> ok open your archive with that and it should unrar it for you
[05:02] <DigitalFiz> ill pay $1 to whoever can get my capture device working :P
[05:02] <Guest41923> will go back later and try  again
[05:03] <scunizi> DigitalFiz, vbox and a window vm? :-))  I'll take my dollar now.. want my pay pal account info?
[05:03] <cliff_> archive type not supported it is a .rar file
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, either write a driver or buy a device that is supported I suppose
[05:03] <whyameye_> I want to force my 32 bit app to see only /usr/lib32 and not /usr/lib. Tried LD_LIBRARY_PATH and that didn't work. Idea?
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> DigitalFiz, or use a VM
[05:03] <Guest41923> so
[05:03] <Guest41923> goodnight all
[05:03] <Guest41923> bye
[05:03] <buntuuser> ok in a terminal type unrar <your-file> /home/<yourusername>
[05:04] <DaveKong> Is there some way to view what packages/modules are being used and are not so one can remove all the ones that are not getting used?
[05:04] <Defiance> Hey
[05:05] <amstell> hey
[05:05] <Defiance> for some reason i cant get my ubuntu disk to load up on start up
[05:05] <amstell> how so?
[05:05] <Defiance> its not a factory disk
[05:05] <cliff_> cliff@ubuntu:~$ /home/cliff/Desktop/1000 Hacking Tutorials (The Best of 2008) [RH] /home/cliff
[05:05] <cliff_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[05:05] <buntuuser> cliff did it work/
[05:05] <amstell> you mean to boot off the disk?
[05:06] <Defiance> yes
[05:06] <Defiance> i want to replace windows with ubuntu
[05:06] <incadudeF> ok reinstalled the virtualbox package and got this error: ^Cdpkg: error processing virtualbox-2.0 (--install):
[05:06] <incadudeF>  subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
[05:06] <amstell> check your bios to make sure your cd boots before your hard drive
[05:06] <Defiance> i dl nero burned on a dvd and changed bio's
[05:06] <computer_> how do i add applications while logged in as a regular user?
[05:07] <scunizi> Defiance, did you burn as data or "image"?
[05:07] <computer_> su?
[05:07] <ipndrmath> Sorry, wasn't sure how your channel played. I was going to chat with someone that could help so that we wouldn't flood the screen. Question: I'm dual booted with Ubuntu 8.04 and XP. I have NTLDR installed on the MBR and grub is installed on the boot partition. This worked for a while, but now when I boot I just get a blank screen with a flashing underscore. I can use the recovery disk with windows and issue a fixmbr. This will give m
[05:07] <Defiance> data
[05:07] <scunizi> computer_, sudo
[05:07] <Defiance> i burned as data
[05:07] <ipndrmath> sorry entered to quickly
[05:07] <buntuuser> cd into the directory that has the archive in it so if it's on your desktop type cd/home/cliff/Desktop
[05:07] <computer_> then just enter the admin password?
[05:07] <amstell> burn as an image
[05:07] <cliff_> this is location and name of file /home/cliff/Desktop/1000 Hacking Tutorials (The Best of 2008) [RH].rar
[05:07] <Defiance> ok ill try that
[05:07] <amstell> that will load all the boot parameters
[05:07] <scunizi> Defiance, that's your problem.. you have to burn as an image.. and as slow as possible to prevent errors
[05:08] <DaveKong> Defiance you should burn a copy of the live CD you want as an iso file and check the disk for errors, burn it at a slow speed to get a better quality burn
[05:08] <amstell> scunizi is right.....make sure it is slowly burnt to the cd
[05:08] <cliff_> huh? could you type full comand line i need ? i am still new to using terminal
[05:08] <cliff_> /home/cliff/Desktop/1000 Hacking Tutorials (The Best of 2008) [RH].rar
[05:08] <amstell> Defiance : make sure you know what you are doing before you completely loose windows....
[05:08] <Defiance> im burning at 4x
[05:08] <buntuuser> type this  unrar /home/cliff/Desktop/1000 Hacking Tutorials (The Best of 2008) [RH].rar  /home/cliff/Desktop
[05:09] <cliff_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[05:09] <tsrk> I installed kubuntu-desktop (on top of ubuntu desktop) and now I want to remove it, how do I remove all the packages it installed?
[05:09] <DaveKong> Defiance that is fine, also a tip for irc type whoever you are talking to's name in your line so that get the line highlighted
[05:09] <amstell> Defiance : I would suggest that you install VirtualBox on windows and then install ubuntu from there and mess with hit to make sure its what you want
[05:09] <buntuuser> ok there is something wrong with the file then
[05:09] <incadudeF_> ok im getting this error when reinstalling virtualbox 2.0.6: ^Cdpkg: error processing virtualbox-2.0 (--install):
[05:09] <incadudeF_>  subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
[05:09] <cliff_> ok thank you
[05:09] <buntuuser> what are the permissions
[05:10] <buntuuser> try downloading it again
[05:10] <Defiance> virtual box
[05:10] <scunizi> incadudeF_, you might ask in #vbox
[05:10] <jtaji> cliff_: you have to escape the spaces with \ or "quote" the whole path... best bet is to start typing the 1000 then press <tab>
[05:10] <incadudeF_> ok will do thanks
[05:10] <DaveKong> Defiance, or at least play around with the live CD or install it with wubi to try it out
[05:11] <Defiance> im checkin out virtual box
[05:11] <amstell> Defiance : www.virtualbox.org
[05:11] <CyBurnett> What is the command to start/stop iptables firewall in Ubuntu?
[05:11] <buntuuser> cliff or you can try and rename it with the .rar extention
[05:11] <Defiance> i tried wubi before
[05:11] <Defiance> and it crashed
[05:11] <joshritger> is it normal in ubuntu to not use the swap much if at all?
[05:11] <meoblast001> Defiance, wubi sux
[05:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Defiance, dont use wubi
[05:11] <amstell> Defiance : you should virtualbox before completely repartitioning your hard drive
[05:12] <glade88> hello.. my installation is really screwed up. I had a Kubuntu Intrepid Beta disk, I install Kubuntu and added the KDE 4.2 beta 1 PPA repos. After downloading the updates, I now have broken dependencies and I get this: http://pastebin.com/m3d0fa1c9
[05:12] <mchelen> joshritger, yeah often, depending on the application and your system memory
[05:12] <amstell> just too make sure you are ready for linu
[05:12] <amstell> x
[05:12] <feross> hello, I compiled drivers for my webcam and followed the instructions so the module/drivers are loaded. Still I don't get anything with the camorama or any other apps and there are no /dev/viedo0 etc... is there anything that I need to do after loading the module to get it to create the video0 device?
[05:12] <mchelen> joshritger, basically there is no reason to use swap unless the system memory is used completely
[05:12] <cliff_> also no biggie but since i used wubi installer can i get rid of windows off my system?
[05:12] <DaveKong> joshritger, it depends how much memory you have and how much you use although you need to have as much swap as you do ram if you want to dump during a crash or hibernate
[05:12] <joshritger> mchelen: I have 2 gigs of ram and do mostly web browsing, and listening to music, nothing too intensive, and I never seen to use any swap
[05:13] <wsgordon> well i'd install ubuntu, but have before, and each install the password once i reboot will not work, anyone able to help ?
[05:13] <buntuuser> no I think the way it works is using a windows partition
[05:13] <incadudeF_> no one is on #vbox :(
[05:13] <mchelen> joshritger, yeah that is fine, you can check and make sure the swap is functioning in the system monitor, but don't be worried if it isn't used much
[05:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Defiance, its not that wubi is bad or anything.. its actually great for new users.. its just that I personally would stand by a proper install from live cd than the wubi install
[05:13] <cliff_> i see well thank you very much for the help
[05:13] <buntuuser> cliff can yo uburn a cd?
[05:13] <mchelen> wsgordon, do you have a non english keyboard or anything like that?
[05:14] <joshritger> Ok, the swap is basically extra room for programs to offload into I do play some games, but I n ever monitored it during this time
[05:14] <ipndrmath> So no one has any suggestions on my NTLDR question?
[05:14] <Photoguy> Where is th e application data in ubuntu? I want to manually install something.
[05:14] <buntuuser> cliff you can keep windows install and just shrink the partition down
[05:14] <mchelen> !repeat | ipndrmath
[05:14] <Paddy_EIRE> ipndrmath, what is that?
[05:14] <cliff_> yeah but i kept getting dumped into intramfs no matter what distro i used so i gave up and went with wubi installer
[05:14] <amstell> PHotoguy : what are you talking about application data?
[05:14] <wsgordon> nope its a standard USB keyboard, i tried looking in the forums, but found nothing
[05:14] <buntuuser> cliff_ just make sure that you defrag the drive first
[05:14] <mchelen> Photoguy, what are you trying to install? if you don't know already it might not be a good thing to attempt
[05:14] <Descention> i can not ping/ssh/http/https/etc to a specific three servers, whether i'm on the internal or external network.  what are any possible ways that ubuntu can prevent communication to a server and still resolve an ip from a hostname(i can attempt pinging a hostname and it resolves the ip but the packets are dropped)
[05:14] <amstell> Photoguy : and what are you trying to install
[05:14] <scunizi> Photoguy, what are you installing.. a .deb file? or ?
[05:14] <Photoguy> Indigo renderer..
[05:15] <mchelen> cliff_, what kind of hard drives do you have?
[05:15] <Photoguy> And I;m trying to install a script into the Blener folder
[05:15] <ipndrmath> Question: I'm dual booted with Ubuntu 8.04 and XP. I have NTLDR installed on the MBR and grub is installed on the boot partition. This worked for a while, but now when I boot I just get a blank screen with a flashing underscore. I can use the recovery disk with windows and issue a fixmbr. This will give me a one time ability to get NTLDR and select Ubuntu or XP. If I turn off the computer, and then back on, I get the blank screen. I 
[05:15] <buntuuser> you can try burning at a slower speed
[05:15] <mchelen> cliff_, i mean ide, sata, scsi, etc
[05:15] <Photoguy> *Blender
[05:15] <wsgordon> its a Dell optiplex 280 system, I read in the past there is a issue, but I cant relocate the link
[05:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ipndrmath, http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp_stepbystep.htm
[05:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ipndrmath, read that
[05:16] <mchelen> Photoguy, oh ok, well that is something to check the blender documentation
[05:16] <amstell> ipndrmath : check out supergrub....google it.....
[05:16] <Photoguy> Ok,,
[05:16] <mchelen> !who | wsgordon
[05:16] <ipndrmath> i'll take a look, thanks
[05:16] <mchelen> Photoguy, where does the Blender documentation say to put it?
[05:16] <cliff_> acpi
[05:16] <Paddy_EIRE> ipndrmath, its the best dual booting guide available
[05:16] <Paddy_EIRE> IMHO
[05:16] <bazhang> Photoguy, why not install blender from the repos?
[05:17] <amstell> ipndrmath : it will help you to restore your grub settings....i woudn't trust windows to take care of your mbs
[05:17] <cliff_> i am gettin ga new hard drive tommorrow so i am not making a big deal but what would you recomend?
[05:17] <amstell> sorry mbr
[05:17] <Photoguy> I did, I just need to place a script into the installation folder.
[05:17] <scunizi> Photoguy, blender's stuff might be in your home directory as a hidden file.. Open places/home and then hit CTRL + H to reveal the hidden directories on you /home partitoin
[05:17] <wsgordon> mchelen - no problem, looking to just get the infor on the problem out there see who responds
[05:17] <Photoguy> Ok
[05:17] <Photoguy> That's it, thanks!
[05:17] <mchelen> wsgordon, ok sure just no guarantee i will see it if it doesn't get highlighted :)
[05:18] <ipndrmath> i can't use grub on the mbr as windows complains and corrupts grub
[05:18] <favor> a directory content subdirectory , I want to install them at one time. how to use this install to do that?
[05:18] <mchelen> !who | cliff_
[05:18] <wsgordon> mchelen thanks... been a few years sence ive been here.
[05:19] <amstell> ipndrmath : yeah check out super grub.    And a little hint when installing windows; install windows first and t hen ubuntu.  The ubuntu grup loader will find your windows partition
[05:19] <Defiance> OK
[05:19] <Defiance> i am using nero 9
[05:19] <mchelen> cliff_, acpi is not a hard drive type? i have had problems like you describe with certain SCSI controller cards, however any IDE or SATA should work fine
[05:19] <cliff_> mchelen i am using acpi but am getting a new hard drive tommorrow so i can get xp off of here what would you recomend?
[05:19] <Defiance> and i need a hand
[05:19] <wsgordon> Nice to see ubuntu is the largest forum on freenode. it has growen considerably.
[05:19] <Defiance> anyone wanna pm me?
[05:19] <mchelen> wsgordon, sure thanks it just helps people to keep up with a particular issue :)
[05:20] <ipndrmath> I'll take a look at supergrub (lovely name). Yeah, windows was (is) installed first.
[05:20] <wsgordon> can you log in at boot as sudo ?
[05:20] <scunizi> !burn
[05:20] <bullgard4> Is the name of the environment variable 'EDITOR', 'VISUAL' or 'EDITOR/VISUAL'? (see man environ: "The user's preferred utility to edit text files.")
[05:20] <mchelen> cliff_, acpi is a type of system power management, not really related to hard drives :)
[05:20] <amstell> ipndrmath : i always keep a supergrub disk around incase I need to restore the mbr.   it always seems to work and allows me to modify it as needed
[05:20] <mchelen> cliff_, do you know what motherboard you have, and if there is a separate hard disk controller?
[05:20] <DaveKong> wsgordon ubuntu frowns on logging in as root for your own safety
[05:21] <cliff_> oh not sure then it is formatted as fat32 hard disk controller is on mother board
[05:21] <mchelen> wsgordon, oh yeah, this place is great, helped me learn a lot when first using ubuntu :)
[05:21] <cliff_> is there a command i can type to see what hard ware i have?
[05:21] <mchelen> wsgordon, use the recovery console if you need to fix something
[05:21] <DaveKong> wsgordon,  you should not have any need to
[05:22] <wsgordon> DaveKong i know ubuntu does not like sudo, but I cannot reboot to an installed ubuntu system because there are issues after booting
[05:22] <ipndrmath> amstell: I have a lot of reading to do on supergrub, so I'm disconnecting. Thanks for your help!
[05:22] <mchelen> cliff_, it is probably fine, the thing that can get confusing is figuring out which hard drive is used at boot time, and getting ubuntu installed on that one
[05:22] <DaveKong> wsgordon, then take mchelen's advice
[05:23] <wsgordon> DaveKong I install and set a password, but the password does not work once i boot to the install and not the live cd
[05:23] <amstell> ipndrmath : when loading it up....they really help you in understanding whats going on....but make sure you understand partitioning first
[05:23] <Myrtti> wsgordon: then to the recovery console then. Reboot, after POST hit ESC to get to the grub menu
[05:23] <mchelen> wsgordon, that is very strange, i think you can fix it from the recovery console though
[05:23] <amstell> ipndrmath : good luck....and stick with it.....nothing to loose
[05:24] <cliff_> mchelen i had all that figured out, but still would like to know what all is inside my computer as i will be upgrading over the next few weeks is there a way to see that?
[05:24] <DaveKong> wsgordon, check for caps lock, make sure you have the user name and password correct, you could set to auto login with the most recent version
[05:24] <ipndrmath> amstell: yeah, thanks, I'll probly be back
[05:24] <mchelen> cliff_, yup there are many, many ways, just thinking what to recommend :)
[05:24] <meoblast001> Defiance, http://www.download.com/Active-ISO-Burner/3000-2646_4-10602452.html?tag=mncol
[05:24] <cliff_> ok
[05:24] <amstell> ipndrmath : the forums are great as well....(ubuntuforums.org)....cheers brotha
[05:25] <Brack10> hi there
[05:25] <Vahids> I have Timout Error in my DVB
[05:25] <Lokin> How do I join different networks that arn't on the list...?
[05:26] <mchelen> cliff_, do you mean in windows or in ubuntu?
[05:26] <Vahids> UBUNTU
[05:26] <CyBurnet> How do I know if the firewall is on or off in Ubuntu 8.04?
[05:26] <Brack10> Ubuntu 8.10, is it possible to make the menus of a program "map" to a panel like on MacOS?
[05:26] <cliff_> ubuntu
[05:26] <DaveKong> wsgordon, maybe you mixed up user name and what you called your machine? I am not really sure...
[05:26] <amstell> Brack10 : avant-window-navigator
[05:27] <Brack10> yeah I have AWN
[05:27] <Brack10> that's a setting in there?
[05:27] <mchelen> cliff_, you can start with the Sysinfo program, you might need to install from Add/Remove
[05:27] <zzlyzq> i use mp3blaster in my ubuntu terminal but it says Failed to open sournd device? any ideas?
[05:27] <Vahids> CyBurnet_ Go there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[05:27] <amstell> Brack10 : what do you want to "map"...i don't undrstand
[05:27] <wwq> wow
[05:27] <Brack10> amstell: On a mac when you open a program, the menus (file, edit, etc) are accessible by the top panel.  The program doesn't have its own menus
[05:28] <bazhang> !iptables | CyBurnett
[05:28] <joanki123> can anyone tell me the cmd to send a msg to an offline user?
[05:28] <cliff_> doing so now
[05:28] <amstell> Brack10 : ohhh.....there is a manager that allows you to do that but it doesn't work to well....I honestly can't think of the name of it right now....
[05:28] <Brack10> ok
[05:28] <zzlyzq> i use mp3blaster in my ubuntu terminal but it says Failed to open sournd device? any ideas?
[05:28] <scunizi> joanki123, write  .. I think
[05:28] <Brack10> I just really like that feature, it saves space
[05:28] <joanki123> oops
[05:29] <amstell> Brack10 : let me sit on it, maybe it will come....but there is a way to do it (just like anything in linux)
[05:29] <Brack10> I'm on mac4lin right now and it rocks
[05:29] <Brack10> Ubuntu 8.10 + Compiz + Mac4lin = awesome
[05:29] <joanki123> scunizi, do you know where i can find help on it?
[05:29] <joanki123> is there a cmd i can type?
[05:30] <amstell> Brack10 : I honestly think that that feature in Mac is awful.  It would drive me nuts if my UI was configured l like that...just MHO
[05:30] <Brack10> it takes some getting used to
[05:30] <Vahids> ﻿zzlyzq_: change sound device->> Double Click on Sound in UP panel and File -> Change ;)
[05:30] <scunizi> joanki123, type man write in a terminal
[05:30] <Vahids> what is ﻿Mac4lin ?!
[05:30] <joanki123> ty
[05:30] <Brack10> but I've been using a mac for the last week and each app having its own menus is driving me nuts
[05:30] <amstell> Brack10 : i have used macs and that is why I choose linu
[05:30] <Brack10> yeah
[05:30] <amstell> Brack10 : sorry.  Check with someone else.....i was just curious
[05:30] <amstell> :)
[05:30] <jimp2> anyone know what font that is ? http://fc91.deviantart.com/fs7/i/2005/365/1/8/Platinum_Openbox_by_all_hope.png thanks
[05:31] <DaveKong> Is there a way to get sysinfo to give a nice printer friendly all info page?
[05:31] <Brack10> agreed but I like the mac UI so now I have the best of both worlds
[05:31] <amstell> Brack10 : thats what great about linux.....there are no UI restrictions so play away
[05:31] <Brack10> yeah
[05:31] <zzlyzq> how to find if my soundcard installed ready?
[05:32] <amstell> lsmod | grep snd
[05:32] <Brack10> although I found out that KDE is a big pile of crap compared to gnome
[05:32] <Vern_Ulven> Hello All. I am trying to share an entire drive with my windows network. I have samba installed and need to know how I can share this entire drive not just the folders contained no it. I am familiar with the conf file.
[05:32] <amstell> zzlysq : lsmod | grep snd
[05:32] <Vahids> zzlyzq_ : lspci
[05:32] <joanki123> send joanki test
[05:32] <Brack10> oh right this is a support channel
[05:32] <joanki123> ugh
[05:32] <Brack10> sorry
[05:32] <joanki123> ./send joanki test
[05:32] <amstell> Brack10 : i couldn't agreee with you more....
[05:32] <joanki123> darnit sorry all
[05:32] <Vahids> bay all the ya !
[05:33] <_2> anyone can tell me why i get "Dec  7 23:23:18 192 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled"  in /var/log/messages  ?
[05:33] <joanki123> oh yes the keyword is memo
[05:33] <scunizi> joanki123, are you on a terminal irc client like irssi?
[05:33] <joanki123> you send a memo
[05:33] <bullgard4> Is the name of the environment variable 'EDITOR', 'VISUAL' or 'EDITOR/VISUAL'? (see man environ: "The user's preferred utility to edit text files.")
[05:33] <joanki123> scunizi i'm using xchat
[05:34] <joanki123> darnnit
[05:34] <joanki123> not working
[05:34] <scunizi> joanki123, if you want to send something from xchat .. then /exec <command> <the rest of what you want>
[05:35] <_2> anyone can tell me why i get "Dec  7 23:23:18 192 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled"  in /var/log/messages  ?
[05:35] <zzlyzq> i find my soundcard is ac97 ! but why mp3blaster won't work! i have found something in google! it said that use mp3blaster -s /dev/dsp but i can't find dsp neither dsp*
[05:35] <joanki123> scunizi butthe person isn't logged on right now
[05:35] <_2> joanki123 /msg nickserv (or is it memoserv) help
[05:36] <zzlyzq> any help?
[05:36] <zzlyzq> i find my soundcard is ac97 ! but why mp3blaster won't work! i have found something in google! it said that use mp3blaster -s /dev/dsp but i can't find dsp neither dsp*
[05:36] <scunizi>  joanki123 not saying you can do it now.. I'm not sure.. but just giving you a way to "do things" from inside xchat with the system
[05:36] <joanki123> i just found the word is "SEND"
[05:36] <amstell> zzlyzq : what are you trying to play.....?
[05:36] <joanki123> actually i think it's:
[05:36] <joanki123> ./msg
[05:36] <joanki123> MemoServ SEND Kog pay your bills
[05:36] <zzlyzq> to use mp3blaster play mp3 files in the terminal
[05:36] <Brack10> One more question:  In AWN I'm getting these weird blocky glitches...I'm running Nvidia drivers.  Anyone know what I can do about this?  It has nothing to do with the theme as I've tried several. http://i35.tinypic.com/k053ex.png
[05:36] <joanki123> memoserv with send
[05:37] <_2> yep
[05:37] <amstell> Brack10 : what driver are you using 173 or 177?
[05:38] <Vern_Ulven> Hello All. I am trying to share an entire drive with my windows network. I have samba installed and need to know how I can share this entire drive not just the folders contained no it. I am familiar with the conf file.
[05:38] <zzlyzq> to use mp3blaster play mp3 files in the terminal
[05:38] <Brack10> 177
[05:38] <zzlyzq> i find my soundcard is ac97 ! but why mp3blaster won't work! i have found something in google! it said that use mp3blaster -s /dev/dsp but i can't find dsp neither dsp*
[05:39] <amstell> zzlyzq : #2 : what are you trying to play : please respond with resonse.....your repeating a question already responded too
[05:39] <eigma> I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 server and trying to install dnsmasq and I'm getting "Package dnsmasq is not available, but is referred to by another package." (http://pastebin.com/m2cb7ea88). what's the problem?
[05:39] <_2> anyone can tell me why i get "Dec  7 23:23:18 192 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled"  in /var/log/messages ?   i mean it's obviously related to /boot/System*   and may be a ubuntu bug ?     modules do of course load, but the error message shouldn't be there.  ???
[05:39] <cliff_> ok got it
[05:39] <_2> zzlyzq why not use snd-ac97 ?
[05:40] <Brack10> amstell: I'm using version 177
[05:40] <zzlyzq> hello guys who can tell me how to send messages to one people i think /msg is not a good idea
[05:40] <scunizi> Brack10, what nvidia card do you have
[05:40] <amstell> Brack10 : I have had nothing but problesm with version 177....i have an nvidia 1500gt and I use 173 because of my problems with 177
[05:40] <zzlyzq> in fact this day is my sencond day to use irc.freenode.net
[05:40] <omegaomni> heya!
[05:40] <omegaomni> need help!
[05:41] <_2> zzlyzq for ac97 sound cards   use modules  snd-ac97-bus    snd-ac97-codec
[05:41] <Brack10> scunizi: I have a 6600 GT I think
[05:41] <Brack10> it's an old card
[05:41] <zzlyzq> thankyou _2
[05:41] <amstell> Brack10 : try driver 173 and see if that affects it at all...other than that.  I don't know sorry
[05:41] <zzlyzq> _2 can you tell me how to send messages to one people
[05:41] <Brack10> so it's a nvidia thing then?
[05:41] <_2> zzlyzq /msg name message
[05:41] <Brack10> because if it helps, everything else works fine
[05:41] <omegaomni> can somebody help me?
[05:41] <Brack10> compiz works great
[05:41] <Brack10> 3d cube works awesome
[05:41] <scunizi> Brack10, not that old.. but a good one.. I still have one I just took out when I put my new motherboard in.. use the 173 driver like amstell suggested
[05:42] <bazhang> omegaomni, please ask a question
[05:42] <Brack10> ok
[05:42] <_2> zzlyzq yep that's how.
[05:42] <omegaomni> sorry.
[05:42] <Vern_Ulven> Hello All. I am trying to share an entire drive with my windows network. I have samba installed and need to know how I can share this entire drive not just the folders contained no it. I am familiar with the conf file.
[05:42] <omegaomni> its that my network connectiong thingy dissapeared.
[05:42] <omegaomni> the thing with the auto eth0
[05:42] <bazhang> nm-applet omegaomni ?
[05:42] <Vern_Ulven> I have no entries in /dev for my drives
[05:42] <omegaomni> yes.
[05:42] <amstell> Vern_Ulven : try mounting it : /dev/sda$ /mnt
[05:43] <scunizi> amstell, which nvidia card do you have.. my new MB has an 8200 built in and the preformance sucks.. also 177 driver.. haven't tried the 173 or the new beta 180
[05:43] <bazhang> omegaomni, right click add to panel does not work?
[05:43] <amstell> scunizi : i have an 8500gt and i use the 173 drives because the 177 driver don't work properly
[05:43] <omegaomni> it does but i cant find what it is.
[05:44] <scunizi> amstell, I'll give it a try.. thanks.
[05:44] <bazhang> omegaomni, scroll down and look for the two monitors icon
[05:44] <omegaomni> the thing that configures what i need to get on the internet.
[05:44] <omegaomni> not the network monitor.
[05:44] <amstell> scunizi : i tend to learn towards the stable version instread of the new release.   nvidia is great in providing us with drives but because they are proprietary,   they don't always work properly
[05:45] <Vern_Ulven> amstell: how can I tell which drive is what. The drive is mounted under it's label
[05:45] <scunizi> amstell, totally agree. better than ati .. at least from my experience.
[05:45] <amstell> Vern_Ulven : you need to know your partitions
[05:45] <mchelen> sudo fdisk -l
[05:45] <eigma> I'm also getting "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found" when doing "apt-get update"
[05:45] <amstell> scunizi : yes but from my understanding ATI provides open source drivers, never done much work with them though
[05:46] <bazhang> eigma, feisty is eol
[05:46] <omegaomni> umm hello?
[05:47] <omegaomni> =/
[05:47] <industrialbs> Boo!
[05:47] <cin> does anyone here use ubuntu server as their desktop (adding packages such as xfce,etc...) ?
[05:47] <_2> eigma  binary-i386  ?
[05:48] <amstell> cin : why would you use the server edition as a dekstop?
[05:48] <jabagawee> amstell, so you can control what to put on it, i assume?
[05:48] <scunizi> cin, I have.. you have a question?
[05:48] <industrialbs> cin: I tired once, for some reason it fails horribly.
[05:48] <MHz128> I would like to write some basic command line C programs... compilers/editors are aviable to make this job easier?
[05:48] <industrialbs> Just use desktop
[05:48] <eigma> bazhang, _2: what should I do to install dnsmasq then?
[05:48] <Vern_Ulven> amstell: fdisk -l only lists the ide drive not the SATA drive with the NTFS partition on it
[05:48] <jabagawee> MHz128, gcc, obviously
[05:48] <jabagawee> MHz128, editor choice is up to you
[05:48]  * jabagawee politely steps away from editor wars
[05:49] <_2> eigma sudo apt-get install dnsmasq
[05:49] <amstell> Vern_Ulven : sorry but I am unfamiliar with SATA drives
[05:49] <cin> scunizi: i am looking to setup a system to learn system programing and also do some database work and think it would be a good idead to get a lean system like ubunut server and ad what i need to it
[05:49] <eigma> _2: like I said, that tells me "Package dnsmasq is not available, but is referred to by another package." / "E: Package dnsmasq has no installation candidate"
[05:49] <_2> jabagawee pico is better than emacs
[05:49] <Vern_Ulven> amstell: thank you
[05:49]  * _2 starts an editor war...
[05:49] <omegaomni> can somebody pelase tell me where i can get my network connections thingy back?
[05:50] <jabagawee> _2, sure man, whatever floats your boat
[05:50] <MHz128> What are the most popular graphical code editors?
[05:50] <Vern_Ulven> Anyone can help me mount and share an SATA drive with an NTFS partition?
[05:50] <amstell> cin : system programming doesn't fully involve a server....learn the language first and then more on to database network development
[05:50] <mchelen> MHz128, Eclipse is pretty popular, any particular language in mind?
[05:50] <amstell> cin : just a suggestion :)
[05:50] <MHz128> mchelen, c/c++
[05:50] <mchelen> Vern_Ulven, what do you mean share?
[05:51] <_2> !editors > MHz128
[05:51] <omegaomni> ......
[05:51] <piklesonfire> evening everyone
[05:51] <cin> amstell:i know c/c++  and  sql  but never really done any systems programming on a linux machine
[05:51] <amstell> what UP?
[05:51] <scunizi> cin, as a test bed.. you can go either way.. I've run 6.06 server and 8.04,  8.10 and then installed xubuntu-desktop for a graphical interface.. understand though that this setup is only a little different from installing the desktop and adding the other bits you need.. so either way.
[05:51] <Decepticon_> where is pptpd log stored
[05:52] <Vern_Ulven> mchelen: share using samba. the drive is mounted under it's label and I don't know a path to put in the conf file
[05:52] <cin> ok
[05:52] <Decepticon_> i am trying to connect vpn from winxp onto ubuntu pptpd server, cannot login, need to see some logs
[05:52] <amstell> cin : well if you want to do programming it always depends on what you want to program
[05:52] <eigma> what does "LTS" mean?
[05:53] <amstell> eigma : Long Term Support
[05:53] <piklesonfire> eigma, long term support
[05:53] <_2> !lts > eigma
[05:53] <eigma> wow, nice
[05:53] <eigma> a total of 4 replies
[05:53] <eigma> thanks guys :)
[05:53] <mchelen> Vern_Ulven, you can enable it as a samba share from the GUI, right click the directory and there should be an option
[05:53] <_2> 4 ?
[05:54] <piklesonfire> mchelen, i believe that only works if you have nautilus-share installed. I could be wrong though.
[05:54] <Vern_Ulven> mchelen: I would like to share the entire drive not just the folders on it. I see no option to share when I right click the drive
[05:55] <mchelen> Vern_Ulven, where is mounted?
[05:55] <piklesonfire> Vern_Ulven, share the folder that represents the drive under /media
[05:55] <five> lol i just lost all my files
[05:55] <_2> someone can tell me why i get "Dec  7 23:23:18 192 kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled"  in /var/log/messages ?   i mean it's obviously related to /boot/System*   and may be a ubuntu bug ?     modules do of course load, but the error message shouldn't be there.  ???
[05:55] <mchelen> piklesonfire, maybe but it provides an option to enable that from the directory properties
[05:55] <five> like 7 movies 14 xbox 360 games and various apps
[05:55] <Vern_Ulven> picklesonfire: I will try that thanks
[05:55] <piklesonfire> mchelen, thanks, i wasn't aware of that :]
[05:55] <five> idk what happened
[05:55] <Brack10> awn glitchyness had nothing to do with the nvidia drivers
[05:56] <piklesonfire> Brack10, which awn are you using? from Ubuntu repos or from the lp repos?
[05:56] <amstell> Brack10  : did you restart?  Obviously hopeful?
[05:56] <scunizi> Brack10, check out cairo as a substitute.. it's also very nice
[05:56] <Brack10> I did restart
[05:56] <amstell> cario is not as stable as awn
[05:56] <cliff_> sorry i was frozen thank you for help i am starting to get some of this stuff
[05:56] <Brack10> I really want AWN though
[05:57] <Brack10> I can't stand cairo
[05:57] <Brack10> I love this terminal applet
[05:57] <piklesonfire> Brack10, try using the AWN from the Launch Pad repositories, it seems much more stable on my system
[05:57] <amstell> Brack10 : what "glichesness" are you refering too?
[05:57] <Brack10> I can't remember how I installed it, piklesonfire
[05:57] <_2> five find them  ?
[05:57] <five> lol no
[05:57] <Brack10> amstell: I posted a screenshot earlier... let me see if I can grab another
[05:58] <five> im not worried
[05:58] <amstell> Brack10 : piklesonfire is right....make sure you are using the repos
[05:58] <five> they were just for seeding i have it all backed up
[05:58] <Brack10> amstell: it's showing these strange blocks
[05:58] <Brack10> piklesonfire: I  don't remember which repository I used
[05:58] <Brack10> hang on
[05:58] <rancur_> Anyone know why Compiz is laggy; it's like it's running at 25FPS. Window drawing is faster/smooth when not using any desktop effects. Running 177 on a 9800GT.
[05:58] <five> well backed up on discs
[05:58] <amstell> Brack10 : check your sources and then sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator --reinstall
[05:58] <scunizi> Brack10, amstell here's the link http://i35.tinypic.com/k053ex.png
[05:58] <_2> five  no it's a command,     find /base/or/starting/dir -iname '*partial.name*'      or find /path -type f | less
[05:59] <five> ah
[05:59] <_2> five  :)
[05:59] <piklesonfire> Brack10, http://wiki.awn-project.org/Installation tells you how to install
[05:59] <five> i think i have a gui for that
[05:59] <amstell> cuinzi : it looks like the seperater is messed up....
[05:59] <Brack10> piklesonfire, I'm pretty sure I used the distribution instructions
[05:59] <piklesonfire> five, a good gui for find is catfish
[05:59] <Brack10> the one for Ubuntu
[06:00] <five> will get
[06:00] <piklesonfire> Brack10, yeah, skip those, use the launchpad :p
[06:00] <Brack10> ok
[06:00] <C0nn0R_> whois Lasivian
[06:00] <Brack10> ok
[06:00] <amstell> Brack10 : did you use the repos : sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[06:01] <Vern_Ulven> Thanks to all that helped me. It works now :)
[06:01] <Brack10> amstell: not sure...is there some way in synaptic that I can find out which repository I used to install a program?
[06:01] <_2> brack10 if not   apt-cache policy packagename
[06:02] <piklesonfire> btw, has anyone else noticed intrepid freezing up every 10 minutes or so?
[06:02] <scunizi> nope
[06:02] <Law506> nope
[06:02] <wsgordon> is there a active sync program for linux for cell phones
[06:02] <piklesonfire> eh, fckn clocksource and radeonhd seems to be a huge cause
[06:02] <amstell> Brack10 : check your System | Admin | Software sources
[06:03] <amstell> Brack10 : you using n 8.10?
[06:03] <Brack10>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Packages
[06:03] <Brack10>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:03] <Brack10> for awn
[06:03] <Law506> i must say that my system and Intrepid are getting along quite well
[06:03] <Brack10> so that means I installed the right one, right?
[06:04] <piklesonfire> Law506, mine is too now, but I've seen a few issues dealing w. clocksource
[06:04] <amstell> Brack10 : and what happens when you run | avant-window-navigator
[06:05] <Brack10> well it starts up just fine, but it glitches out
[06:05] <Brack10> with the blocks
[06:05] <khider> Hey guys, installed shockwave flash player, and now every time I want to view any flash content I need to right click on it and enable it, how do I enable all flash content by default?
[06:05] <Brack10> and now it's not showing open applications, but I'm not worried about that
[06:05] <Brack10> so much
[06:05] <scunizi> wsgordon, there's multisync, kmobile tools, moto4lin and probably several others.
[06:05] <Brack10> I'm sure I just unchecked some config box by accident
[06:05] <piklesonfire> khider, do you have flashblock installed?
[06:05] <cvd-pr> Hey there if i have the headers and image of 2.6.27.9 why ubuntu show the 2.6.27.7 in the update manager?
[06:06] <amstell> Brack10 : sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator --reinstall
[06:06] <khider> piklesonfire: Nope
[06:06] <amstell> Brack10 : maybe that will "rescrew" everything up.... :)
[06:06] <wsgordon> scunizi - thanks
[06:06] <amstell> Brack10 : or set everything right....
[06:06] <cvd-pr> ?
[06:06] <_2> amstell rethreading the sucker are we   :)))
[06:07] <amstell> _2 : what do you mean:
[06:07] <amstell> ?
[06:07] <rancur_> Anybody know how to speed up Compiz? I have a 9800GT -.-
[06:07] <_2> amstell nothing,  just a comment on your comment, maybe that will "rescrew" everything
[06:07] <cvd-pr> :-(
[06:07] <khider> Hey guys, installed shockwave flash player, and now every time I want to view any flash content I need to right click on it and enable it, how do I enable all flash content by default?
[06:08] <amstell> _2 : just trying to untangle this *ucked up world we call linux
[06:08] <bazhang> amstell, language please
[06:08] <scunizi> rancur, try the 173 driver
[06:08] <amstell> khider : is flash enabled with yo do | about:plugins
[06:08] <amstell> bazhang : sorry man....
[06:08] <rancur_> oh? Will do.
[06:09] <_2> amstell indeed.    but it's not that tangled.   compared to some os's
[06:09] <piklesonfire> _2, like Vista. lolz
[06:09] <Brian714> yeah, fresh intsll of 8.10
[06:09] <Brian714> err install
[06:09] <khider> amstell: Yes
[06:09] <khider> amstell: It is
[06:09] <amstell> _2 : no its completely tangled....how many version of vista are there....1......linux is becoming more and more completcated
[06:10] <rancur_> amstell: there are 8 versions of Vista
[06:10] <_2> amstell and 2 versions of linux actually,   the 1.* and 2.* kernels
[06:10] <_2> amstell subversions on the other hand.
[06:11] <piklesonfire> amstell, and distros are pretty much countless.
[06:11] <amstell> rancur : ok....so how many version of linux are there....how many windows managers are there....you are talking abouit kernels which no new linux user will understand
[06:11] <khider> Hey guys, installed shockwave flash player, and now every time I want to view any flash content I need to right click on it and enable it, how do I enable all flash content by default?
[06:11] <Brack10> sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator --reinstall didn't do anything really
[06:11] <piklesonfire> amstell, i understood kernels when i switched to linux, kernels are universal in operating systems ;p
[06:11] <ectospasm> so y'all are complaining about the balkanization of Linux distros?
[06:12] <amstell> piklesonfire : yes you did but you probably had formal understanding
[06:13] <_2> brack10 it reinstalled the same package   "in case there was an 'hickup' in the first attempt."
[06:13] <piklesonfire> amstell, i try to teach as much about the kernel as a new user can handle when i switch friends and family over too though.
[06:13] <huwenfeng> hi, how can i get the net traffic right the moment in ubuntu?
[06:13] <Brack10> I see
[06:13] <Brack10> now I can't figure out how to get it to show open apps now
[06:13] <piklesonfire> Brack10, did you try the link i sent you?
[06:13] <rancur> scunizi: 173 no different. If I enable benchmark then everything runs a lot faster.
[06:14] <Brack10> piklesonfire: can you please re-paste
[06:14] <rancur> as it is the Xorg with 2d Acceleration is faster (go figure)
[06:14] <_2> brack10 'hickups' can include user deleting system files too...     just an fyi.
[06:14] <piklesonfire> sure think Brack10, just a moment while i locate the document again
[06:14] <scunizi> rancur, what's benchmark?  don't know that one.. and how do you enable it?
[06:14] <rancur> if you install Compiz Settings Manager in Synaptic, then run the Compiz Settings Manager, it's an available option
[06:15] <Guest87920> can you guys do apt-get update right now?
[06:15] <bullgard4> What is the role of 'VISUAL' that 'man environ' mentions?
[06:15] <piklesonfire> Brack10, http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=DistributionGuides there you go :]
[06:15] <scunizi> rancur, ah.. in ccsm.. ok. never thought to look there. is that an option you can let run all the time?
[06:15] <_2> Guest87920 what are you getting  404s ?
[06:16] <Brack10> piklesonfire: oh yeah that's what I used to install
[06:16] <rancur> Don't think I should; heats the GPU up to 63C+, Everything is running in turbo as well, minimizing windows is way too fast.
[06:16] <piklesonfire> Brack10, what version of Ubuntu are you?
[06:16] <rancur> normal idle GPU is 51C for me
[06:16] <Brack10> piklesonfire: intrepid
[06:17] <scunizi> rancur, where is that option in ccsm?
[06:17] <piklesonfire> Brack10, hold for a second while I check my sources.list, I'll paste my entry for AWN in here for you as well, so we can compare ;p
[06:17] <rancur> just search for it with the filter
[06:18] <amstell> piklesonfire : you are one of the few....my parents would never understand a kernel...they still the internet is a different computer
[06:18] <piklesonfire> Brack10, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/awn-testing/ubuntu intrepid main restricted universe multiverse - that is my entry for avant window navigator, do you have similar in your sources?
[06:18] <amstell> :)
[06:18] <rancur> ah it's down under "Extras"
[06:18] <scunizi> rancur, doesn't show in my hardy install.. I'll have to check the ibex another time.. maybe a new feature in ibex's ccsm.
[06:18] <piklesonfire> amstell, ROFL, that's WHY i educate people before i switch them over. I don't like phone calls at 3am asking what a kernel panic is and how to compile.
[06:19] <rancur> odd.
[06:19] <Brack10> piklesonfire: apt-cache showsrc avant-window-navigator ?
[06:19] <scunizi> rancur, nope.. it's there under extras.. filter didn't pick it up
[06:19] <Roasted> Has anybody here ever used Samba as well as NFS? If so, what kind of speeds did you get (mb/second) with each one??
[06:19] <rancur> 1200fps when I enable that
[06:19] <piklesonfire> Brack10, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:20] <amstell> piklesonfire : If someone doesn't understand how binary code works then how the hell do you explain to them a kernel operation?  I start with the basics first....then more on.... :)
[06:20] <five> should i upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04?
[06:20] <five> what am i missing?
[06:20] <rancur> ok so if I uncheck "Disable limiter" I get 42fps
[06:21] <piklesonfire> amstell, i simply explain the kernel is the core of the OS, that it is a translator... your drivers speak german, keyboard and mouse are italian, the monitor chinese, and software is all different languages, and that the kenrel simply helps them all get along :p
[06:22] <omegaomni> >:|
[06:22] <omegaomni> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for playback.
[06:22] <omegaomni> im sick of that.
[06:22] <Brack10> piklesonfire: I don't have that entry
[06:22] <amstell> piklseonfire : no i agree with you.  I just don't bother to explain something that doesn't really matter to someone who still has problems drafting emails in gmail......you pick your battles and you always win....thats the fight!
[06:22] <Brack10> should I add?
[06:22] <omegaomni> sometimes theres sound in my ubuntu sometimes there isnt...
[06:22] <piklesonfire> Brack10, go ahead and add that, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:23] <omegaomni> and its really irritating me...
[06:23] <piklesonfire> see if it takes care of it for ya
[06:23] <amstell> Brack10  : if the reinstall dodnm
[06:23] <Roasted> NFS? Samba? Anybody? Anybody use it?
[06:23] <piklesonfire> amstell, totally agree with you there too, but that's why i don't switch those users to linux, i put em on mac and say call tech support. lmao
[06:23] <ectospasm> Roasted: yes
[06:23] <amstell> didn't work for you I don't think a source list update will work
[06:23] <piklesonfire> Roasted, i have, but i've never done speed tests, sorry
[06:23] <omegaomni> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for playback.
[06:23] <Roasted> ectos - what do you use?
[06:24] <ectospasm> Samba... I've used NFS in the past
[06:24] <ectospasm> ...but my needs are basic
[06:24] <ectospasm> Just sharing music across the network
[06:24] <omegaomni> will anybody tell me what this is?!
[06:24] <omegaomni> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open audio device for playback.
[06:24] <Roasted> ectospam - have you ever noticed what kind of trasnfer speeds you pull?
[06:24] <piklesonfire> amstell, i'm having him add the repository which holds the latest version of AWN, instead of Ubuntu's, it should update his to a newer version and hopefully get it working
[06:24] <ectospasm> Roasted: just whatever the network speed is, usually 3MB/s IIRC
[06:25] <amstell> piklesfire : if I felt like supporting apple ( which I don't) then I would have.   It just doesn't make sense for a simple user to pay $2000 for a computer.  How about a I build you a computer (dell) but linux on it (dell 8.10) and then sell it to you for cheap (dell)....thats why I bought my parents a dell.
[06:25] <stevej678> when I look in $man set, I can't see anything on set -o noclobber, im going nuts
[06:25] <Roasted> oh, okay... cause I was pulling 7MB/second... I wasn't sure if that was considered "good" or what
[06:25] <ectospasm> omegaomni: are those supposed to be pipes or bangs?
[06:25] <Brack10> piklesonfire: no updates detected
[06:25] <piklesonfire> amstell, good point
[06:25] <omegaomni> no.....thats what comes out when i change my soudn settings to alsa....the only working sound setting.
[06:26] <omegaomni> nothing happens when i place autodetect either.
[06:26] <amstell> piklesonfire : it just doesn't make sense to me that people are so ignorant on the fact that a mac is based on the MAC kernel for the first BSD system developed by the Univeristy of California Berkely
[06:26] <stevej678> is there a better man file for the set command?
[06:26] <ectospasm> omegaomni: so that's not a shell command?
[06:26] <omegaomni> its an error i think.
[06:26] <omegaomni> but this is what comes out...
[06:26] <Roasted> ectospasm - I assume 7Mb would be considered half decent? BTW did you say you used to use NFS?
[06:26] <ectospasm> stevej678: man bash maybe?
[06:26] <trancefat> please guide me to ubuntu offtopic
[06:27] <piklesonfire> Brack10, what version of AWN is installed?
[06:27] <stevej678> thanks
[06:27] <omegaomni> sent you a PM.
[06:27] <ectospasm> Roasted: long time ago I used NFS for centralized home directories for basically a computer lab.
[06:27] <scunizi> !ot | trancefat
[06:27] <bullgard4> What is the role of 'VISUAL' that 'man environ' mentions?
[06:27] <Brack10> piklesonfire: 0.2.6
[06:27] <trancefat> scunizi: thanks
[06:27] <scunizi> np
[06:27] <Roasted> ectospasm - what was your experience like with it? I hear some people swear by it being simpler... but I found a gui tool for Samba. It takes me seconds to configure Samba.
[06:28] <piklesonfire> 0.2.6~7ubuntu1 Brack10?
[06:28] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to make it so no icons not even the drive icons show up on the desktop?
[06:28] <Brack10> yes
[06:28] <trancefat> scunizi: is there some way i can login to both ubuntu and offtopic?
[06:29] <scunizi> trancefat, sure.. what irc client are you using.?
[06:29] <_2> stevej678 help set | less
[06:29] <trancefat> scunizi: i m using XChat... i have just selected Auto join for offtopic... shud that do it?
[06:29] <Brack10> piklesonfire:  can I just completely reinstall it and erase all settings?
[06:30] <piklesonfire> Brack10, try this for me. close awn then run the command apt-get --purge remove avant-window-navigator* awn-*
[06:30] <piklesonfire> then run sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[06:30] <amstell> piklesonfire : good chattin with you make....I'm out its getting late in California and the new swell gets in tonight.  Peace
[06:30] <piklesonfire> and run the first command as sudo, sorry
[06:30] <_2> trancefat /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:30] <scunizi> trancefat, if you want.. to join now.. just type /j #ubuntu-offtopic in the bar that you type messages in.
[06:30] <piklesonfire> ahhhhh peace amstell, thanks for the tease
[06:30] <ectospasm> Roasted: NFS (not NFS+) was pretty easy to setup on Fedora 3/4, following the guide I had found.  But it was completely insecure.  Luckily the numbnuts using the "lab" didn't know their behind from a hole in the ground wrt Linux, so it was relatively safe.
[06:30] <ardchoille> piklesonfire: I tried the awn testing PPA and over half of the applets caused awn to crash. The version in the intrepid repos is very niuce here however.
[06:30] <trancefat> scunizi: ok thanks
[06:31] <piklesonfire> ardchoille, really, my ppa awn works great.
[06:31] <ardchoille> piklesonfire: That's the point, you can't tell how it's going to work from one computer to the next
[06:31] <Roasted> is NFS+ a new thing?
[06:32] <piklesonfire> ardchoille, yeah, that's true. but the reason i upgraded mine is because the ubuntu repo one crashed when loading.
[06:32] <_2> Roasted define new.     new compaired to linux,  new compaired to computers,  new compaired to dirt ???
[06:32] <ardchoille> piklesonfire: Ah, ok, the intrepid version has worked flawlessly for me :)
[06:32] <Roasted> I mean is NFS+ a "newer" version of NFS? Like how does it differ from NFS?
[06:32] <piklesonfire> ardchoille, that's awesome to hear :] maybe i should try it out again. but i like the plugins offered in ppa as well
[06:32] <pr0nGuy> Hey, someone was helping me with a dist-upgrade in another chan and now I lost him
[06:33] <Brack10> piklesonfire: OK ran those 2 commands and it did the same thing as last time.  Same glitches,  didn't reset the applets, doesn't show open programs either
[06:33] <ardchoille> piklesonfire: yeah, I tried the PPA becuase of the plugins, but found them to be buggy... which is probably why the repo version doesn't have them.
[06:33] <piklesonfire> hrm... Brack10, i have one last thing i'd like you to try
[06:34] <piklesonfire> Brack10, try sudo apt-get install awn-manager-trunk
[06:34] <piklesonfire> Brack10, that's the bzr version, and should give you the ppa one, not the one from ubuntu repos
[06:34] <_2> umm why does apt-get dist-upgrade want to install linux-image-2.6.15-52-686 when i'm running 2.6.15-53-686 ???
[06:35] <Brack10> bzr?
[06:35] <Brack10> ppa?
[06:35] <Brack10> also did I need to remove the old one?
[06:35] <sancho21> How to install without burning cd?
[06:35] <piklesonfire> Brack10, it will remove the old one for you, ppa is equal to launchpad, which is the source i had you add earlier
[06:35] <_2> oh never mind.   i had that version installed too.   my bad.
[06:35] <Brack10> ok now it's totally fubarred
[06:36] <piklesonfire> screenshot?
[06:37] <co> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjl'
[06:37] <Brack10> sec
[06:37] <dqd> hello a
[06:38] <piklesonfire> hey dqd
[06:38] <dqd> can u help me
[06:38] <piklesonfire> i can try
[06:38] <Brack10> http://i38.tinypic.com/ae0j0w.png
[06:38] <dqd> about config ubuntu 8.10
[06:38] <omegaomni> anybody know how to remove pulseaudio completely?
[06:38] <omegaomni> its giving me a sound issue.
[06:38] <Brack10> http://i33.tinypic.com/2h7dzjm.png
[06:38] <dqd> stillther
[06:38] <piklesonfire> oman, you're not kidding about totally fubard
[06:38] <dqd> no
[06:39] <piklesonfire> dqd, yup, i'm running 810 also, what's up?
[06:39] <_2> omegaomni sudo aptitude purge *pulseaudio*
[06:39] <Brack10> I know I'm not
[06:39] <dqd> how can u connect to ap with 64bit key security?
[06:39] <_2> omegaomni not sure that will because you probably didn't use aptitude to install it
[06:39] <dqd> in network connections there are no 64bit
[06:39] <piklesonfire> hey Brack10 reinstall avant-window-navigator. then launch it from the terminal, let's see if any errors sho up in there
[06:40] <piklesonfire> dqd, you mean, as far as wireless?
[06:40] <dqd> yeh
[06:40] <Debolaz> Is there a package that will add an init script to start an svscan (daemontools) process for every user on the system?
[06:40] <dqd> there only 40/128 bit key
[06:40] <piklesonfire> dqd, should be able too. what type of encryption are you using? wpa wpa2, wep?
[06:40] <dqd> not 64bit key
[06:40] <dqd> wep
[06:40] <Brack10> piklesonfire, can I just use the synaptic manager even though I'm running that other version you just had me install?
[06:40] <dqd> 64bit key wep security
[06:40] <piklesonfire> Brack10, yup, same thing will happen, it will remove this one for you
[06:41] <dqd> pik u 've got what i means?
[06:41] <piklesonfire> Brack10, just remember, don't launch from the menu, run it as a command in terminal so we can see if there are any errors
[06:41] <piklesonfire> dqd, yup, i understand your question, i'm looking into it atm
[06:41] <piklesonfire> one sec
[06:41] <dqd> i can not connect to Ap with 64bit key wep security
[06:42] <_2> !wep
[06:42] <Brack10> I see
[06:42] <Brack10> sec
[06:42] <dqd> yes i know it
[06:42] <piklesonfire> ubottu, totally agree, i advise WEP2
[06:42] <sparr> i love imagemagick.  i have a circular graphic, i need to convert it to polar coordinates, crop the result, resize it, then output raw 8bit grayscale values for each pixel.  the idea of tackling that task with other tools is scary
[06:42] <piklesonfire> WPA2**
[06:43] <dqd> hehe i cracked my neibour ap
[06:43] <dqd> not mine
[06:43] <simtower_laptop_> how do i find my version of ubuntu
[06:43] <piklesonfire> dqd, it's your neighbors ap?
[06:43] <dqd> now i want to connect to that Ap
[06:43] <dqd> yes
[06:43] <piklesonfire> dqd, the one with 64bit encryption?
[06:43] <bazhang> dqd, this channel is not for that
[06:43] <dqd> wep 64b key
[06:43] <Brack10> Package avant-window-navigator is not installed, so not removed
[06:44] <simtower_laptop_> dqd it is illegal
[06:44] <dqd> how can i connect to that ap
[06:44] <piklesonfire> dqd, if it's your neighbor's i can't assist, it's a federal crime, sorry
[06:44] <Brack10> piklesonfire: ?
[06:44] <bazhang> dqd, please stop NOW.
[06:44] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to make it so no icons not even the drive icons show up on the desktop?
[06:44] <Myrtti> dqd: "on your own"
[06:44] <piklesonfire> Brack10, i want you to install avant-window-navigator, and remove the trunk version
[06:44] <dqd> i;m from vietnamese and in my country that is legally
[06:44] <Brack10> how do I remove the trunk version?
[06:44] <bazhang> not here dqd
[06:44] <simtower_laptop_> but guys, how do i tell my version of ubuntu
[06:45] <bazhang> !version
[06:45] <dqd> hic
[06:45] <piklesonfire> dqd, this server is hosted in us, still a crime to talk about it
[06:45] <dqd> but it my ap config 64bit key wep how can i connect it
[06:45] <piklesonfire> Brack10, just try to install avant-window-navigator, that should remove the trunk version for us :]
[06:45] <dqd> i know it
[06:45] <bazhang> dqd, stop
[06:45] <dqd> i just want to know it
[06:45] <bazhang> dqd, last warning
[06:45] <simtower_laptop_> how much longer does 8.04 hardy have support?
[06:46] <_2> bazhang his ip checks out
[06:46] <dqd> not a crime
[06:46] <dqd> ok
[06:46] <Brack10> *sigh* same thing as before
[06:46] <_2> simtower_laptop_ 3 years
[06:46] <dqd> u all guy come from usa ?
[06:46] <simtower_laptop_> thanks _2
[06:46] <Brack10> I'm from USA
[06:46] <outboard> i dont
[06:46] <simtower_laptop_> no reinstallings for me
[06:46] <dqd> nice 2 meet u
[06:47] <piklesonfire> Brack10, right click the AWN, and close it for me... we want to open up a terminal and run the command "avant-window-navigator"
[06:47] <simtower_laptop_> usa 4 lyfe
[06:47] <dqd> this is the first time i change my os
[06:47] <piklesonfire> see if it gives any errors or output, Brack10
[06:47] <_2> dqd welcome to linux
[06:47] <dqd> day before i use windows vista
[06:47] <dqd> now i try to know linux:D
[06:47] <Brack10> piklesonfire: no, it just opens up and then shows what I pasted earlier
[06:47] <dqd> and i  like it
[06:47] <outboard> i remember my first linux install
[06:47] <bazhang> dqd chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:48] <dqd> yeh
[06:48] <outboard> it was a friday
[06:48] <piklesonfire> Brack10, dude, i'm totally out of ideas here man =/
[06:48] <outboard> last friday
[06:48] <dqd> which topic ?
[06:48] <piklesonfire> and that doesn't happen often =/
[06:48] <Brack10> leave it to me :(
[06:48] <piklesonfire> outboard, lol
[06:48] <bazhang> !offtopic
[06:48] <sancho21> How to install ubuntu 8.10 without burning CD or use USB?
[06:48] <piklesonfire> Brack10, i'm still checking into it for you, googling and what not, but idk if i'll be able to help any more
[06:48] <dqd> soory bazhang this is my first time come here so...
[06:49] <Brack10> ok
[06:49] <Brack10> well clearly it's not installing all the way
[06:49] <_2> !install > sancho21
[06:49] <Brack10> otherwise it would act how it did the first time I installed it
[06:49] <Brack10> so do I need to do an apt-get clean or something?
[06:50] <piklesonfire> that will clear the downloaded packages... i'd try that Brack10 then try to purge the window navigator and reinstall it again, to see if MAYBE it will work
[06:50] <maximumHAX> can someone tell me why ubuntu has no alsaconf ?
[06:50] <piklesonfire> maximumHAX, it should.
[06:51] <maximumHAX> alsaconf
[06:51] <piklesonfire> maximumHAX, nvm spoke too soon
[06:51] <maximumHAX> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[06:51] <_2> maximumHAX because it's supposed to 'just work' and they have never included alsaconf
[06:51] <maximumHAX> oh.. hmm.. well mine don't.. it constantly dings!
[06:51] <maximumHAX> ding ding ding ding.. 24/7
[06:51] <_2> !sound
[06:51] <piklesonfire> maximumHAX, what version of Ubuntu?
[06:52] <maximumHAX> hmm 8.1 I think
[06:52] <_2> 8.10
[06:52] <_2> !release
[06:52] <maximumHAX> I had to do alsa force-unload to get it to quit dinging
[06:52] <Brack10> piklesonfire: when you say purge the WM you mean log out and alt - e?
[06:53] <Brack10> or total restart
[06:53] <piklesonfire> maximumHAX, please see: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/26/turning-off-the-system-hardware-beep-linux-tutorial/
[06:53] <maximumHAX> had all the right modules loaded though.. my other laptop is same snd card.. it works fine
[06:53] <piklesonfire> Brack10, no, to purge is to "completely remove" in synaptic, or from terminal, sudo apt-get --purge remove
[06:53] <crista> hello
[06:54] <piklesonfire> maximumHAX, do you have no sound at all other than the system beep?
[06:54] <Guestion> How to determine the code of cpecial key on my laptop. For /etc/acpi/events/  ?
[06:54] <crista> anyone can help me?
[06:54] <piklesonfire> crista, what's up?
[06:54] <maximumHAX> piklesonfire: correct
[06:54] <_2> Guestion maybe 'showkeys' ?
[06:55] <crista> how can i play game 3d on ubuntu 8.10
[06:55] <_2> Guestion maybe 'showkey' ?     sorry not plural
[06:55] <Brack10> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:55] <Brack10> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:55] <Brack10> blarrrgh
[06:55] <piklesonfire> Brack10, any other things using apt open? synaptic, or the updater?
[06:56] <piklesonfire> crista, what game?
[06:56] <Brack10> no
[06:56] <crista> chinese game
[06:56] <Brack10> oh man this is going to take me forever to get good at linux
[06:56] <_2> Brack10 you know that that means close the other package manager first
[06:56] <Brack10> right I do
[06:56] <crista> it s called zhuxian :D
[06:56] <bazhang> Brack10, did you sudo ?
[06:56] <Brack10> there wasn't another one open
[06:56] <Brack10> yes I sudoed
[06:56] <piklesonfire> Brack10, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it ;]
[06:56] <bazhang> then another instance is open
[06:57] <Brack10> I already figured out how to connect to a windows PPTP vpn
[06:57] <piklesonfire> bazhang, it may not be an instance that he can see, it could be the updater checking for updates.
[06:57] <bazhang> yep
[06:57] <_2> Brack10 sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:57] <Brack10> and that requires hacking with the gnome config utility
[06:57] <Brack10> I was proud
[06:57] <piklesonfire> Brack10, awesome dude :]
[06:57] <outboard> it is a lot easier then microsux , and there are people that will help you  , with your problems not emptying your wallet
[06:57] <Brack10> so awesome that I can terminal service in ubuntu
[06:57] <Brack10> to my work comp
[06:58] <PeterFA> How does one get an rdesktop session going?
[06:58] <PeterFA> I want to remote into another computer.
[06:58] <piklesonfire> Brack10, that's better than most dude. I was working at aol before i figured out how to do those things. lol
[06:58] <Brack10> heh
[06:59] <Brack10> I've made a commitment to linux, no turning back
[06:59] <PeterFA> Brack10, it's not like you'll want to.
[06:59] <PeterFA> Brack10, I've turned to Linux and fell in love with it.
[06:59] <Brack10> well I've tried to switch about 10 times already
[06:59] <PeterFA> Brack10, you'll not get me on Windows with a gun.
[06:59] <Brack10> first time was when redhat was popular like 8 years ago
[07:00] <piklesonfire> PeterFA, I found this info on rdesktop for you http://www.netadmintools.com/art237.html
[07:00] <piklesonfire> Brack10, the new fedora's pretty sweet. minus a few bugs here and there. lol
[07:00] <Brack10> PeterFA: applications > Internet > Terminal services client on intrepid
[07:00] <Brack10> heh
[07:00] <Brack10> anyway this is the last time
[07:00] <piklesonfire> PeterFA, there's also the man page - http://linux.die.net/man/1/rdesktop
[07:01] <DaveKong> Brack10, you should check out the Linux Documentation project there are some amazing guides
[07:01] <PeterFA> piklesonfire, thanks.
[07:01] <piklesonfire> PeterFA, any time
[07:01] <Brack10> nice
[07:01] <_2> !FreeNX
[07:01] <_2> !vnc
[07:02] <mcpancakes> what happens if you've got an existing, say home folder, on one hard drive, and you mount another hard drive to the home folder. what happens to the files currently on it? on which device to new files get placed?
[07:02] <luddite> robert40: let me guess - you had it working in 8.04 but it wont connect in 8.10?
[07:03] <cyphase> does anyone know of a good program to fix mp3 files? the problem is, the player says that the mp3 is only 5 minutes long, when it should be longer. if i'm at 4:10, and i try to go back to 4:05, it doesn't play what was playing 5 seconds ago, it plays something a few minutes ahead
[07:03] <cyphase> as if, all the data is there, but sort of crammed within 5 minutes
[07:03] <piklesonfire> mcpancakes, if you mount a drive as home, then new files will be placed there... and the files on the old home will be ignored
[07:03] <_2> mcpancakes the files within a mountpoint become inaccessable as long as a device is mounted there
[07:03] <Brack10> I appreciate linux so much as a sysadmin, I srsly want to use this as a desktop platform at work
[07:04] <Brack10> I can see how it would pay for itself in productivity not having to deal with stupid microsoft issues all day long
[07:04] <piklesonfire> Brack10, mention it to higher ups, some companies will appreciate it for cost saving benefits alone
[07:04] <Brack10> it's my decision
[07:04] <Brack10> only about 50 desktops
[07:04] <piklesonfire> Brack10, do eet lol
[07:05] <mcpancakes> ah, so the local files would be temporarily unavailable. and I assume linux just doesn't allow two devices to be mounted to the same folder?
[07:05] <Brack10> I want to
[07:05] <Brack10> I have very few custom apps
[07:05] <freetown> Brack10, good luck increasing productivity with all the distractions like Wesnoth, Tremulous, ... :-D
[07:05] <piklesonfire> mcpancakes, exactly
[07:05] <Brack10> heh
[07:05] <_2> mcpancakes there are exceptions, such as "unionfs" which combines the two rather than the normal mount on top of methood
[07:05] <Brack10> I mean for my users
[07:06] <piklesonfire> _2, very good point to mention
[07:06] <Brack10> when they need IE for a stupid website they can just terminal service into my windows server
[07:06] <freetown> Brack10, ah, you can also claim it fosters good colleague relationships with regular lunch social functions :-D
[07:06] <piklesonfire> Brack10, or they can use oprea's identify as IE feature ;p
[07:06] <cyphase> ah, mplayer is reading it correctly it seems
[07:06] <Brack10> true
[07:06] <sancho21> How to install from iso into dedicated partition? I have windows too
[07:06] <_2> piklesonfire heh i was going to say that in the first reply to mcpancakes but couldn't remember the name of the fs   heh...
[07:07] <cyphase> or, at least,not reading the error
[07:07] <piklesonfire> _2, haha, same here, brain farts are wicked
[07:07] <Brack10> I have a couple windows programs that wouldn't work on Linux though
[07:07] <_2> piklesonfire i'm old enough to start having part timers i guess...   ;/
[07:07] <luddite> nuendo wont work on ubuntu
[07:08] <piklesonfire> _2, haha, i'm not. but i guess "it's all this damn dope"
[07:08] <luddite> my wifi used to work on ubuntu but then it did after the upgrade but now it doesnt
[07:09] <piklesonfire> hey _2 in xchat, how do i register my nick on this server?
[07:10] <_2> piklesonfire /msg nickserv register passwd
[07:10] <_2> piklesonfire /msg nickserv help register
[07:11] <_2> i think they now require an email addy
[07:11] <piklesonfire> sweet, thanks _2
[07:11] <piklesonfire> yup
[07:11] <luddite> they do
[07:11] <_2> np.
[07:11] <_2> that's new sense about half a year ago
[07:12] <_2> cause i don't have an email addy but i reg'd anyway
[07:12] <Brack10> freakin awn
[07:13] <rww> !register
[07:13] <piklesonfire> Brack10, gotta hand it to ya dude, you're a guy who doesn't give up
[07:13] <Brack10> heh
[07:13] <Brack10> I'm just trying to learn this OS
[07:13] <_2> what ya gonna learn it ?
[07:13] <Brack10> the more I'm solving stupid crap like this, the easier it gets
[07:14] <tyebud> Anyone able to give some guidance regarding ati driver configuration?
[07:14] <Brack10> I know exactly how to deal with this problem on Windows, but I need to learn how on Linux
[07:14] <piklesonfire> tyebud, i can try ;p
[07:15] <prince_> hi
[07:15] <tyebud> Awesome!
[07:15] <Brack10> ok so how can I blast all previous avant-window-manager installations?
[07:15] <Brack10> navigator
[07:16] <_2> sudo aptitude purge avant*   ???
[07:16] <piklesonfire> Brack10, what _2 said
[07:16] <tyebud> piklesonfire: So I've been trying to get my tv out to come out in color
[07:16] <piklesonfire> tyebud, what's up w. your ati issue?
[07:17] <Brack10> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "avant*"
[07:17] <piklesonfire> tyebud, specs on the card? program being used, etc?
[07:17] <piklesonfire> Brack10, try avant-*
[07:17] <nilson> I had an ipod mounted and I right clicked on the device to change mount options to rw, but now I cant mount it at all, and get the error that I have invalid mount options. However to access those mount options through the GUI, the volume must be mounted. So what file do I edit to change my ipod mount options?
[07:17] <_2> Brack10 try with sudo apt-get remove --purge avant*
[07:17] <_2> i forget which accepts wildcards
[07:18] <Brack10> wait now it did this
[07:18] <Brack10> Removing python-utidylib ...
[07:18] <Brack10> Removing libtidy-0.99-0 ...
[07:18] <Brack10> Removing python-alsaaudio ...
[07:18] <Brack10> Removing python-chardet ...
[07:18] <Brack10> Removing python-feedparser ...
[07:18] <FloodBot1> Brack10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:18] <tyebud> piklesonfire: RADEON 2400 HD, using various drivers, most recently the ati proprietary version, with aticonfig
[07:18] <piklesonfire> nilson, you need to edit /etc/fstab
[07:18] <piklesonfire> nilson, that controls mount points and options
[07:18] <piklesonfire> tyebud, let me see what i can find, but i know ati and its tv out is pretty iffy
[07:19] <luddite> i cant get wifi to work anylonger
[07:19] <tyebud> piklesonfire:  Yeah, that's what I've been hearing..
[07:19] <luddite> anyone help me? please
[07:19] <DigitalFiz> how would i change the little icon at the top in the gnome panel, the ubuntu symbol
[07:19] <piklesonfire> luddite, are you using network manager or setting it manually?
[07:19] <Brack10> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82338/
[07:19] <Brack10> it removed a bunch of other stuff
[07:19] <Brack10> when I pruged avant*
[07:19] <_2> Brack10 umm   did i mention that you needed to look over the list first and confirm only if you approve
[07:19] <nilson> piklesonfire, this is a differerent thing. I believe this is relative to gnome.
[07:20] <Brack10> haha
[07:20] <nilson> my fstab only has the hard disk stuff
[07:20] <Brack10> how do I get it bacckkkk
[07:20] <piklesonfire> nilson, ipod is a hard disk, and if it's not in there, you can add it.
[07:20] <_2> Brack10 just a sec.
[07:20] <nilson> this is an ipod which I plugged in and it mounted.
[07:20] <nilson> with noo addition to the fstab
[07:20] <nilson> plug and p-lay
[07:20] <nilson> just like a USB stick
[07:20] <luddite> picklesonfire - im using network manaager
[07:21] <_2> Brack10 if those five are all it took with it, you are fine.
[07:21] <luddite> ndiswrpper also
[07:21] <piklesonfire> tyebud, i'm looking into you're issue, i promise :]
[07:21] <nilson> Gnome stores its mount options for plug-n-play devices like this somewere
[07:21] <Brack10> I'm reinstalling them anyway
[07:21] <nilson> I need to reeset mine
[07:21] <piklesonfire> Brack10, yeah, reinstall those :]
[07:21] <Brack10> isn't alsaaudio important?
[07:22] <_2> Brack10 it's not alsaaudio  it's python-alsaaudio   bige differance
[07:22] <_2> bige ?
[07:22] <nilson> twhen the device is mounted then there is a GUI to change mount options, hover I changed the mount options to something which will no longer mount
[07:22] <luddite> picklesonfire - networkmanager can see the wieliess network(windows can connect to it no probs) but it tries to connect then disconnects
[07:22] <_2> wow. maybe i need sleep
[07:22] <nilson> now I cant mount it, or change those options
[07:22] <Brack10> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "avant-*"
[07:22] <nilson> I need ot know what file gnome stores those settings in (its not fstab)
[07:23] <Brack10> but then if I run avant-window-navigator it comes up with my corrupt version
[07:23] <Brack10> with the weird bards
[07:23] <tyebud> piklesonfire: My problem is, on a recent install I was able to control the --tv-geometry through aticonfig.  But on this install, I can't.  I speculate that it has something to do with my various attempts at driver installs.  I'm thinking that it may have something to do with driver conflicts.  So I need to know how to find all the drivers installed, remove them, and start with a fresh, single, install
[07:23] <Brack10> bars*
[07:23] <l7> nilson: it's something like ~/.gnome2 iirc
[07:23] <tyebud> piklesonfire: Thank you by the way :)
[07:23] <Brack10> I can even change the theme of my little mini glitch bar
[07:24] <nilson> l7, yeah I was goig to start lookin gthrough there
[07:24] <piklesonfire> tyebud, np
[07:24] <_2> Brack10 COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > list   and send me the list
[07:24] <Brack10> ooh now it kinda works even
[07:24] <_2> or not
[07:24] <piklesonfire> tyebud, dude, from what i'm reading, you're lucky to even have tv out at all w. that card :p
[07:24] <piklesonfire> tyebud, still searching though
[07:25] <piklesonfire> luddite, sorry, i don't work w. ndiswrapper or anything that uses it =/
[07:25] <piklesonfire> and nilson i'd check the gconf then
[07:25] <bdelin88> anyone know of a good guide to uninstall pulse audio and replace it with ALSA in intrepid?
[07:25] <Brack10> _2 it's on your way
[07:25] <Brack10> on it's way
[07:25] <luddite> picklesonfire - i might have to ditch that
[07:26] <_2> Brack10 sorry cancle that one and resend please
[07:26] <piklesonfire> luddite, lol, i mean, i don't assist in issues even relating to ndiswrapper, sorry. most i can do is google it for you :p
[07:26] <tyebud> piklesonfire: Yeah, I know.  But I'm confident there is a way.  There has to be.   Please god, there has to be
[07:26] <luddite> picklesonfire - that ok mate
[07:26] <_2> hmmm must be a firewall issue.
[07:27] <piklesonfire> lol, tyebud like i said, i'm looking into it for ya buddy
[07:27] <kidbuntu> !stanis
[07:27] <kidbuntu> !sp
[07:27] <kidbuntu> !spe
[07:27] <kidbuntu> !python
[07:27] <Brack10> _2 not working
[07:28] <Brack10> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82340/
[07:29] <_2> Brack10 k
[07:29] <bassory99_> slt à tous
[07:29] <ompaul> !fr | bassory99_
[07:30] <piklesonfire> tyebud, have you attempted using the catalyst control center?
[07:30] <mcpancakes> Brack10: if the 'sites that require IE' thing is still in your mind, I seem to recall an FF addon that could open a new tab that was like and rendered like IE. not sure if it relied on actual IE files though.
[07:31] <piklesonfire> mcpancakes and Brack10  there's also ies4linux - just sayin ;p
[07:31] <hackwins> asu
[07:31] <bassory99_> ompaul: ok! sorry for the french words
[07:32] <Brack10> true
[07:32] <tyebud> piklesonfire: At the moment, I don't have a windows manager installed.  Just xserver.  I'm going for a minimal boxee install
[07:32] <Brack10> I wish ies4linux worked with netflix watch instant
[07:32] <piklesonfire> tyebud, ah, i see, sorry, a few more moments of research then. lol
[07:33] <tyebud> piklesonfire: Sure thing.  Take your time
[07:33] <mcpancakes> Brack10: ah, nevermind - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
[07:33] <mcpancakes> not available for Linux :(
[07:33] <bdelin88> ...so i followed a guide to uninstall pulse audio and then installed also, or at least that's what it said i was doing, my audio works in firefox but no longer works for things like amarok/rhythm box/ or anything else besides firefox, any ideas on what else I can do?  (everything in sounds is set for ALSA as well)
[07:34] <bdelin88> and then installed ALSA*, sry
[07:34] <Brack10> ok so I FINALLY got it completely uninstalled and re-installed and it still remembered my settings
[07:34] <Brack10> and is still glitchy as hell
[07:34] <bdelin88> anyone? :)
[07:34] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, if it's set to alsa, you may want to google to see if there's any known issues/workarounds for those apps
[07:34] <piklesonfire> Brack10, if you purged it, it def shouldn't remember your settings
[07:34] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: they worked fine in gutsy with alsa
[07:35] <Brack10> I did purge it
[07:35] <Brack10> http://i35.tinypic.com/2rq29hj.png
[07:35] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, i understand that, but things change dist to dist
[07:35] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: you don't think they would still carry the support for old sound systsems?
[07:35] <piklesonfire> Brack10, one sec, i'm trying to see if i can find where awn stores the config files so you can manually erase them to see if that helps
[07:35] <_2> Brack10 k, if you want to purge all avant* try this.   sudo aptitude purge avant-window-navigator avant-window-navigator-data-trunk avant-window-navigator-trunk awn-applets-c-core awn-manager awn-manager-trunk libawn-extras0 libawn0 libawn0-trunk python-awn-trunk
[07:36] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, i do, but i've heard of certain issues, i did the same thing on another install of intrepid i had running on a desktop, several apps needed workarounds to get sound up and running
[07:36] <_2> that's everything that the package manager knows about,  if you have another version you must have compiled it or something.
[07:37] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: well i killed pulse to try and install alsa because I wanted audacity work... dang ubuntu is so much work
[07:37] <Brack10> ahh I think I got it to work
[07:37] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, haha, it happens man, it happens. if you don't mind me asking, why switch from pulse to alsa?
[07:38] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: ...because audacity works on alsa :)
[07:38] <Brack10> yep it's working
[07:38] <Brack10> NO GLITCHES
[07:38] <Brack10> magic lamp working too
[07:38] <Brack10> awesome!
[07:38] <FloodBot1> Brack10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, audacity works for me on pulse too. haha
[07:38] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: the workaround was causing unstable operation of audacity, unacceptable
[07:38] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: it worked natively, out of the box?
[07:38] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, si
[07:39] <Brack10> success!
[07:39] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: mine would appear to be playing, but you wouldn't actually hear anything
[07:39] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: what card do u have, i have the realtek integrated '97 chipset
[07:39] <mcpancakes> I tried Audacity yesterday, on this new installation, recording from the line-in seemed not to work :\
[07:39] <mcpancakes> I don't know anything about linux audio though, i.e. what pulseaudio/ALSA/ whatever else means.
[07:40] <nilson> goonight
[07:40] <_2> !ALSA
[07:40] <potwak> how can install my graphics card
[07:40] <_2> pfft.   not very informative
[07:41] <potwak> the windows are so large when i install ubuntu
[07:41] <hackwins> potwak: what nvidia?
[07:41] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, hang on a sec while i find it ;p
[07:41] <potwak> hackwins: i forgot to check my graphics card.
[07:41] <hackwins> potwak: hardware or driver?
[07:42] <potwak> hackwins: driver
[07:42]  * freetown test
[07:42] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: you have a guide on how to restore pulse, i am having more problems then just audacity now lol
[07:42] <piklesonfire> rofl - bdelin88 lemmie see what i can look up for ya man
[07:42] <potwak> hackwins: but why is it that when i use the live cd, the graphics are just normal?
[07:43] <hackwins> potwak: are commands to see your card but i don't remenber how
[07:43] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: oh sry dude, haha, i am watchin tv :)
[07:43] <ardchoille> Can I use my xmms skins with audacious?
[07:43] <piklesonfire> and bdelin88 it's an intel something or another
[07:43] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: thanks though
[07:43] <hackwins> yes
[07:43] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: yea i can check, what's the command for sound card junk
[07:43] <hackwins> its normal you have nvidia or ati sure
[07:43] <potwak> hackwins: maybe someone right here knows.
[07:43] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, no, i meant mine is an intel soundcard
[07:43] <piklesonfire> integrated something or another
[07:43] <potwak> *how
[07:43] <Brack10> Now I've got it back to the point where it's just glitchy again http://i36.tinypic.com/25sl9iq.png
[07:43] <bdelin88> ah ok, well i have an intel board, so mine probably is to
[07:44] <Brack10> notice the big gray bars
[07:44] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: sry, ah ok, well i have an intel board, so mine probably is to
[07:44] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: it is realtek
[07:44] <hackwins> when your install linux ubuntu ubuntu ask for you for private drivers
[07:44] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, to find your soundcard you can run sudo lshw -C multimedia
[07:44] <Static--> any possible way to stop gnome-panel from running on startup?
[07:44] <hackwins> its easy
[07:45] <Brack10> even blockier here
[07:45] <Brack10> http://i36.tinypic.com/2mm7p8x.png
[07:45] <piklesonfire> potwak, what kind of video card are you using?
[07:46] <_2> what would one have to do to make nautilus not take over the desktop ?    write a wrapper for it ?
[07:46] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: soundcard details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82345/
[07:46] <cliff_> i installed blender and it is in applications menu but does not start or show error message
[07:46] <skaboy>  ok
[07:46] <piklesonfire> aha, okie bdelin88
[07:46] <potwak> piklesonfire: i forgot
[07:46] <sloopy> cliff_, try starting it from terminal
[07:46] <Static--> anyone ?
[07:46] <skaboy> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:46] <piklesonfire> do you still want to replace w. pulse or stay w. alsa?
[07:46] <skaboy> im newwwwwwwwwwwwww
[07:47] <cliff_> what is command line?
[07:47] <piklesonfire> hey skaboy. real big fish brotha man
[07:47] <skaboy> hey was goood
[07:47] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: actually it appears to be an nvidia device, sry, i forgot that it's actually an nvidia board lol
[07:47] <cliff_> wait can i just hit alt f2 then check run in terminal?
[07:47] <piklesonfire> cliff_, command line is using the terminal
[07:47] <tyebud_> piklesonfire: Hey, thanks for the help.  I gotta hit the sack.  I'll be back tomorrow evening
[07:47] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: i just want it back to default pulse audio
[07:47] <skaboy> im just inat;l  ubuntu
[07:47] <piklesonfire> tyebud_, ne time, i'll be here as well
[07:47] <sloopy> cliff_, Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[07:48] <dukenukem> hi everyone, i'm wondering how to install a wireless driver i just downloaded. i looked around on the forums but couldn't find anything.
[07:48] <tyebud_> piklesonfire: Cool cool.  Take care!
[07:48] <skaboy> i have a wireless
[07:48] <Flannel> !enter | skaboy
[07:48] <piklesonfire> cliff_, terminal is also using just a command line interface, not always a gui...
[07:48] <cliff_> sloopy_ ok terminal is open but what do i put in for bleneder
[07:48] <skaboy> yeap
[07:48] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, okie, let me see what i can find for ya dude
[07:49] <cliff_> ok but when i type in terminal what is that reffered to as i have been saying command line
[07:49] <sloopy> cliff_,  try 'blender'
[07:49] <skaboy> im new on this
[07:49] <dukenukem> hi, sorry to repeat myself, i just downloaded a linux driver for my usb wireless, i'm wondering how to install it.
[07:49] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: u da man
[07:49] <cliff_> ok got this
[07:49] <cliff_> Compiled with Python version 2.5.2.
[07:49] <cliff_> Checking for installed Python... got it!
[07:49] <cliff_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[07:49] <cliff_>   Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
[07:49] <cliff_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[07:49] <FloodBot1> cliff_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <sloopy> cliff_, pastebin
[07:50] <bdelin88> dukenukem: what type of file is it
[07:50] <sloopy> !pastebin | cliff_
[07:50] <cliff_> sorry was longer than i thought
[07:50] <skaboy> byeeeeeeeeee
[07:50] <dukenukem> hey bdelin88, there are two folders, one called "module" which is full of c files and the other called "WPA_supplicant" which is full of configs, c's and h files.
[07:50] <cliff_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82347/
[07:51] <piklesonfire> dukenukem, you need to compile dude
[07:51] <bdelin88> duken was it packaged as a .deb file?
[07:51] <dukenukem> is there no simple way of installing a driver?
[07:51] <bdelin88> dukenukem: was it packaged as a .deb file?**
[07:51] <erikja> !paste
[07:51] <dukenukem> sorry, no, it was a zip initially, which i extracted and copied to ubuntu.
[07:51] <bdelin88> dukenukem: yes, unless the people that made it were lazy and didn't make an ubuntu package for u :)
[07:51] <alex__> hi i m new to ubuntu
[07:52] <bdelin88> dukenukem: as a new user, i have discovered that the ".deb" packages are the easy auto-installers
[07:52] <alex__> and i want to try beryl on my laptop
[07:52] <bdelin88> dukenukem: there is a good guide that i will show though
[07:52] <alex__> anybody knows an easy way to instal
[07:52] <alex__> ?
[07:52] <cliff_> did you receive link ?
[07:52] <dukenukem> i see. bdelin88, is it worth me downloading the windows driver and using ndiswrapper?
[07:52] <dukenukem> rather than compiling the linux driver..
[07:52] <bdelin88> dukenukem: never tried that... compiling really isn't that bad though
[07:53] <Ashex> oh lovely
[07:53] <dukenukem> i'll give compiling a shot then. so what's this link you have for me?
[07:53] <piklesonfire> dukenukem, they are both about equally complex
[07:53] <sloopy> cliff_, yes i saw it but i dunno, i am not familiar with the error, sry
[07:53] <cliff_> ok well thank you tho
[07:53] <piklesonfire> alex__, what ver of ubuntu?
[07:53] <dukenukem> i've spent the last two days on this, so what's another few hours compiling..
[07:53] <sloopy> cliff_, np, but you atleast now have an error to go with...
[07:54] <dukenukem> can't wait to get her online though, that's gonna be sweet.
[07:54] <bdelin88> dukenukem: lookin it up real quick, 1 sec
[07:54] <dukenukem> thanks bdelin88, much appreciated.
[07:54] <cliff_> i am googling it now
[07:54] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, try the command sudo killall alsa && sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[07:54] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, wait!
[07:54] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: one sec
[07:55] <bdelin88> dukenukem: i think this should point you in the right direction, if you have further directions, just make google your friend man :) here you go: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html
[07:55] <bdelin88> dukenukem: further questions* sry
[07:55] <erikja> I have a problem being in Midnight Commander. I press F10, to get out of Midnight Commander, and still be in the terminal, but have no luck  --  http://picpaste.com/mcf10.jpg
[07:55] <capicu> how's it going
[07:56] <dukenukem> thanks again, bdelin88. you're a champion. yeah, i've been googling for a coupla hours.. i just wanted to come in and ask you guys to see if there was a simple way to go about this.
[07:56] <erikja> What can I do ?
[07:56] <piklesonfire> erikja, try esc?
[07:56] <bdelin88> dukenukem: also if you compile and it tells you that something is missing, you just look up what is missing in the package manager or on google to figure out where to get it, then install it, got it?
[07:56] <cliff_> what is messa library?
[07:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone here walk me through nfs? i looked at the ubuntu how-to but i dont get all that stuff at the beginning.
[07:56] <erikja> piklesonfire, Ok, thanks I will try ti
[07:57] <bdelin88> dukenukem: well if you look at that guide, compiling, even though it seems scary to windows users like you and i, isn't really that bad...
[07:57] <erikja> s/ti/it
[07:57] <_2> erikja you'll either have to tell your terminal not to catch f10 or tell mc to use a different key    the mc config would be my way of doing it.
[07:57] <sloopy> rookeeeeeeeee, what are you using nfs for?
[07:57] <erikja> piklesonfire, unfortunately it dosen't work
[07:58] <rookeeeeeeeee> two computers on a small home network, sloopy
[07:58] <lwizardl> hi
[07:58] <piklesonfire> oooookie guys, i'll brb, i need some milk and oreos
[07:58] <erikja> _2, why not catch F10 ?
[07:58] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: wait
[07:58] <lwizardl> anyone here know much about setting up a computer to act as a firewall
[07:59] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: was that all i have to do? lol you told me to wait :)
[07:59] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, what's up dude?
[07:59] <sloopy> rookeeeeeeeee, usually samba is considered more secure, but what part are you having issues with?
[07:59] <piklesonfire> ah bdelin88 sorry, i thought you said one sec too lol
[07:59] <rookeeeeeeeee> sloopy can we talk in pm
[07:59] <sloopy> rookeeeeeeeee, yes
[07:59] <bdelin88> oh no sry i was just talkin to dude
[07:59] <_2> erikja because the terminal is accepting the f10 as a hotkey rather than passing it on to mc.   alternatively you can mouse the f10 button of the mc app
[07:59] <erikja> _2, I will try to puzzle with it
[07:59] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: *oh no sry i was just talkin to duke**
[07:59] <erikja> _2, ok thanks
[07:59] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: do you need to go?
[08:00] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/alsa-instead-of-pulseaudio-for-ubuntu-810-intrepid-a-non-destructive-way/ - follow in reverse :p
[08:00] <_2> erikja welcome
[08:00] <gholm> I have a windows process that needs to get files from a networked mapped drive s://folder/folder1 and I want to run that same process on Linux. How do I make Linux "read" that file address??
[08:00] <piklesonfire> skipping the steps to actually setup alsa, of course. just remove alsa, reinstall pulse, you should be okie
[08:00]  * _2 has found many weaknesses in mc      but still uses it.
[08:00] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: haha alright man, thank you
[08:00] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, np
[08:00] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: nice! this is the guide i used earlier, was looking for this for forever :)
[08:01] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, haha, google-ninja my friend, i'm a google effin ninja
[08:01] <ddoom> somehow i've managed to disable the network when the comp restarts, anyone know how to fix this? (ubuntu 8.04 server)
[08:01] <bdelin88> heh
[08:02] <_2> ddoom you mean like sudo ifup eth0  ???
[08:03] <ddoom> _2: yes thats what I have to do everytime the comp restarts, I want the network to be enabled without having to do that
[08:03] <piklesonfire> ddoom, _2, you can also try ifconfig eth0 up
[08:03] <_2> i'm thinking you have messed up the interfaces file   but im no net admin
[08:03] <cliff_> sloopy i guess i need this but i do not know how to get http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mesa+7.1+ubuntu&spell=1
[08:03] <_2> piklesonfire if ifup doesn't do it, ifconfig without any ip prolly wont either,  but yeah
[08:04] <bullgard4> Why are there two environment variables 'EDI'TOR' and 'VISUAL' that 'man environ' mentions which have the same meaning?
[08:04] <piklesonfire> _2, very true. but if the interfaces file is intact, and it's static, or gets it from dhcp, it should.
[08:04] <sloopy> cliff_, dunno but sounds reasonable
[08:04] <_2> piklesonfire as should ifup
[08:04] <cliff_> ok i will figure ou t
[08:05] <piklesonfire> _2, agreed, just mentioning another way.. lol
[08:05] <ensonic> hej, oprofile is broken on 8.10 and noboday seems to care in bugs.launchpad.net, can anyone help to brinf this to attention?
[08:05] <ddoom> is there a default interfaces file I can try and replace mine with?
[08:05] <ensonic> s/brinf/bring/
[08:06] <ntsasng> sdasd
[08:06] <ntsasng> co ai nguoi VN ko?
[08:06] <_2> ddoom errr not really.    file is at /etc/network/interfaces
[08:07] <skaboy> can some one tellme how can i get msn for ubunto???????????????????
[08:07] <piklesonfire> skaboy, install amsn
[08:08] <skaboy> ok
[08:08] <piklesonfire> or, use pidgin skaboy
[08:08] <piklesonfire> skaboy, if you want webcam, voicechat, etc... use amsn
[08:08] <piklesonfire> if it's just for iming, pidgin works well
[08:09] <skaboy> ok thanx pik
[08:09] <saint_>  hi I have problem, yesterday my OS, Ubuntu update php to 5 5.2.4
[08:09] <piklesonfire> surething dude
[08:09] <saint_> and tommorow one site dosn't work
[08:09] <saint_> webbrowser give me file file to download
[08:09] <saint_> instead of showing page
[08:09] <saint_> but other site's works, strange
[08:10] <saint_> could somebody help me with this
[08:11] <wsgordon> question, is there a Duel socket pentium 4 2.8 motherboard out there thats non zeon, but a hyperthread cpu board ?
[08:11] <piklesonfire> !enter | saint_
[08:12] <Decepticon_> error 800 on vpn connection.... winxp client using native vpn client to connect to ubuntu pptpd server, log of connection from dec 8, 00:55:00 is relevent, pasted here: http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/paste/syslog
[08:13] <saint_> okey, once again, without enter :P I have problem, yesterday my OS, Ubuntu update php to 5.2.4  and tommorow one site dosn't work,  webbrowser give me file file to download,  instead of showing page, but other site's works, strange
[08:14] <mrglinux> can I install live ubuntu cd in text mod .. and without ganome desktop ?
[08:15] <saint_> even I don't know what should I looking for in googgle
[08:16] <jim_p> mrglinux, yes
[08:17] <piklesonfire> saint_, do you have different php.ini's for each site?
[08:17] <saint_> no
[08:17] <macjason0607> guys .. i want to convert a avi to a mpeg and then burn it as a vcd
[08:17] <macjason0607> is devede the best tool ?
[08:17] <tinytitan> Hey, I want to make a hotkey open nautilus and/or a specific directory in nautilus. How can I do this in ubuntu 8.04?
[08:17] <jim_p> macjason0607, devede or mandvd. dunno if avidemux can do it
[08:18] <piklesonfire> saint_, what about the htaccess files? anything different between them? or do you have them set up?
[08:19] <saint_> ye, but only mod rewrite
[08:19] <saint_> before update everything work good
[08:19] <bdelin88> is there a terminal command to reset or "reboot" my sound system?
[08:19] <macjason0607> jim_p, ok how about this .. can i put an avi to a cd and watch it on a dvd player as a vcd ?
[08:20] <piklesonfire> saint_, to be totally honest man, i'm at a loss. from a web designer's aspect, those are the only two things i can think of.
[08:20] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, which sound system are you using?
[08:20] <jim_p> macjason0607, if the player has divx support, yes
[08:20] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: i tried the guide again as alsa since i found out i made a mistake
[08:21] <tinytitan> is there a way to set custom hotkeys to run a command?
[08:21] <akorpija> hey can anybody help me figure out why firefox is taking up to 200 megs of RAM from me?
[08:21] <jim_p> tinytitan, yes. do you use compiz?
[08:21] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, then try ssudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[08:22] <tinytitan> jim_p, no
[08:22] <jim_p> akorpija, reduce the open tabs and use flashblock
[08:22] <jim_p> tinytitan, then its some weird metacity setting you must make
[08:22] <macjason0607> ok anohter question .. i don't want dolphin anymore in kubuntu .. if i remove it can i just install nautilus ?
[08:22] <scbchoreo> helo
[08:22] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: it says alsa command not found
[08:22] <scbchoreo> hi @ all
[08:22] <tinytitan> jim_p, awesome thanks, at least I know where to look now
[08:22] <ExElNeT> hmm somehow is eclipse running slow on intrepid... the java editor takes 5 seconds to open... i ve read a thread with someone having the same problem... any idea?
[08:23] <akorpija> jim_p even still none of the tabs i have open have any flash on them i can't see why it need 200 megs of ram?
[08:23] <bdelin88> akorpija: firefox is a very ram intensive browser
[08:23] <piklesonfire> Tinytitan, you can look under system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts ;]
[08:23] <akorpija> seriously i have 2 tabs open it's at 204 megs...?
[08:23] <jim_p> tinytitan, google for "how to make ctrl+alt+del open gnome-system-monitor" the procedure is the same. the buttons and the app changes
[08:23] <bdelin88> akorpija: you should see what it is in windows :)
[08:23] <akorpija> i'd say that's a memory leak i cant see why it would need that much? never noticed it do that in (dare i say) windows
[08:24] <jim_p> akorpija, well limit ff memory usage from about:config
[08:24] <akorpija> bdelin88, hahahahaha good timing
[08:24] <tinytitan> piklesonfire, keyboard shortcuts doesn't let you pick your own action though, just the shortcuts, nautilus/file browser is not listed
[08:24] <akorpija> jim_p yea good idea
[08:24] <bdelin88> akorpija: i have seen it over 300 in windows
[08:24] <piklesonfire> Tinyboom, aha, sorry, i see what you're trying to do. okie, yeah, google my friend
[08:24] <akorpija> bdelin88, that's ludicrous i always thought it was a lighter browser til now...it's laggin ym entire system hah
[08:24] <jim_p> i got to go people
[08:25] <jim_p> see you
[08:25] <akorpija> jim_p, how do i go abotu limiting memory usage?
[08:25] <bdelin88> akorpija: it should b pretty light without extensions... that's when it uses a lot of ram
[08:25] <bdelin88> akorpija: google it akorpija
[08:25] <akorpija> bdelin88, yea i guess i have a few of those
[08:25] <bdelin88> akorpija: heh, that's why i went crazy and bought 4gb of ram
[08:26] <bdelin88> akorpija: mwahahaha!
[08:26] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, sorry dude, i missed your message, there was this sudden flood of em in here. heh, alsa was not found... what if you type in "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa[tab] restart"? ([tab] being the tab key)
[08:26] <akorpija> bdelin88, hahahaha sweeet i woudnl't mind doing that u can get it pretty cheap im considering at least 2 gigs right now
[08:26] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: i found it...alsa-utils restart :)
[08:26] <piklesonfire> bde, haha, that's it :]]
[08:27] <macjason0607> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/82357/
[08:27] <akorpija> is this serious? hahah void my warranty on firefox? hahaha
[08:27] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: looks like i will still be going back to pulse... damn
[08:28] <piklesonfire> macjason0607, sorry, i don't do kde. lol.
[08:28] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: oh well
[08:28] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, sorry to say it, but i'm happy to hear it :p
[08:28] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: well u will be the first i go to to get my audacity working again! haha, so watch out
[08:28] <piklesonfire> akorpija, 1gig of ram and a 2 gig swap partition is usually more than enough for every day computing
[08:29] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: lol windows 64 bit, with 4 gb i still run out
[08:29] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, sure thing, i'm going to start coming back to irc more often like i used to
[08:29] <akorpija> piklesonfire until i used firefox...hah
[08:29] <piklesonfire> bdelin88, i meant on linux computing :p
[08:29] <bdelin88> piklesonfire: no games.. pleanty of ram :)
[08:29] <piklesonfire> Vista is just one giant memory hog :p
[08:29] <bdelin88> night all
[08:29] <piklesonfire> peace bdelin88
[08:31] <akorpija> vista blows pretty bad...
[08:31] <ozzloy> how do i display the files just installed by aptitude?
[08:31] <ozzloy> or by a particular aptitude package?
[08:31] <usamahashimi> Hello everyone!
[08:32] <usamahashimi> Is it possible to autologin but with locked session?
[08:32] <deoks> usamahashimi: Probably there is a better method, but try autostarting some screensaver-lock command, i.e. gnome-screensaver-command -lock
[08:33] <incepator___> hi
[08:33] <lodder> How can I install a ubuntu-desktop as domU
[08:33] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, program apt-file in the repos allows you to search for files in the debs. is that what you need?
[08:33] <usamahashimi> deoks, it has a minimum time of 1 minute but I want instant lock session
[08:33] <piklesonfire> hey incepator___
[08:34] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: kinda.  i just installed xerces, a c++ xml library.  now i'm trying to compile the example and it tells me that it doesn't know where the *.hpp is on the system
[08:34] <piklesonfire> lodder, using xen i presume?
[08:35] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: so maybe i need the right -l instead
[08:35] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, use find to locate it?
[08:35] <_2> piklesonfire just a note on apt-file   it's good for packages not installed,  but for people with slower connections, the database takes time to update, and if the intent is to search within packages on the system dpkg can do that.
[08:35] <piklesonfire> _2, ah, sorry, thank you for the insight.
[08:35] <portablejim> How do you set the sound card Java is using in Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy 32 bit)?
[08:36] <incepator___> My music player crash  Why ? i am using ubuntu 8.10 Rythmbox
[08:36] <deoks> usamahashimi: nope.
[08:36] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: i tried that, didn't find anything by the name PlatformUtils.hpp
[08:36] <deoks> usamahashimi: -l will lock the screen immediately.
[08:37] <usamahashimi> deoks, I want this function becuase sometimes when I am not present I want my system to autologin after power failure but i do not want some to access it.
[08:37] <user__> hi
[08:37] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, find / -name PlatformUtils.hpp should find all files on your system by that name
[08:38] <piklesonfire> hi user__
[08:38] <user__> how do I compile from source? I donloaded a tarbal and untared it, but now?
[08:38] <piklesonfire> user__, did you read the readme usually included in the source?
[08:38] <user__> no readme included
[08:38] <Brian714> hello
[08:39] <Pici> !compile | user__
[08:39] <ardchoille> user__: It's best to check the repos and see if the app is already packaged for you. Did you check the repos?
[08:39] <user__> after unpacking it there was only a .src file
[08:39] <piklesonfire> it's usually "./configure" "sudo make" "sudo make install" but, not always
[08:39] <user__> thankx, Pici
[08:39] <ardchoille> piklesonfire: it's best to "make" as user, then "sudo make install"
[08:39] <user__> ardochoille it's not in repo
[08:39] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: yeah, i did that.  it's not by that name
[08:39] <ardchoille> user__: ok
[08:40] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: but i already installed libxerces-c28
[08:40] <user__> ok, I'll try with the howto of the site ubottu told me
[08:41] <XxtjaxX> HEy guys can someone explain to me why the 8.10 is comming so damn late?
[08:41] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, what is the name of the file that you need exactly?
[08:41] <piklesonfire> !release
[08:41] <lodder> piklesonfire: yes xen is correct
[08:41] <ardchoille> xxploit__: 8.10 was release in October of 2008 (hence: 8.10 , year.month)
[08:41] <_2> XxtjaxX late ?   it's time based releases you know.
[08:41] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: #include <xercesc/util/PlatformUtils.hpp> from here: http://xerces.apache.org/xerces-c/program-2.html
[08:42] <Vhghost> hello all
[08:42] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, i hate to ask the same question, but that's the exact file "PlatformUtils.hpp" that you need?
[08:42] <piklesonfire> hello Vhghost
[08:43] <XxtjaxX> _2 yes but AS u know the name of the releases should have been named after there Release year and MOnth by the rules of canonical and we dont have 2008 much longer and neither Oktober
[08:43] <lodder> piklesonfire: do  you have idea on how to get it done i would then use a freenx to connect to the system
[08:43] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, http://edocs.bea.com/tuxedo/tux81/xmlparser/PlatformUtils_8hpp-source.html there is the source of that file, you can just create it if it's missing
[08:43] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/d4382b218 here's the exact command i'm trying and the resulting error
[08:43] <ardchoille> XxtjaxX:  8.10 was release in October of 2008 (hence: 8.10 , year.month)
[08:43] <piklesonfire> lodder, i'm researching it as we speak :]
[08:44] <lodder> piklesonfire: ah k
[08:44] <mgolisch> ozzloy: install the package the missing header is in
[08:44] <XxtjaxX> ardchoille I know that already BUT We here  get in the magazines the BETA of 8.10 and its 8.12 RIGHT NOW
[08:44] <piklesonfire> mgolisch, he already did ;]
[08:45] <mgolisch> it wouldnt give that error if he did ..
[08:45] <ardchoille> XxtjaxX: 8.10 was released in October of 2008, I downloaded it in October, regardless of what the magazine says
[08:45] <wickedklown420> add me please myspace.com/Dan0o0o0o0
[08:45] <wickedklown420> yo hows this chat work
[08:46] <piklesonfire> mgolisch, i'm simply sating what he told me, sorry
[08:46] <user__> there is no configure script and autoconf doesn't do anything either
[08:46] <user__> it's just a .src file
[08:46] <piklesonfire> user__, .src is usually used on windows and mac to compile software
[08:46] <wickedklown420> can i add from here
[08:46] <ardchoille> user__: can you give me a dl link so I can check it out?
[08:46] <piklesonfire> what is the source file for user__ ?
[08:47] <piklesonfire> !offtopic | wickedklown420
[08:47] <user__> ardchoille that might be difficult, it's for iMule, piklesonfire
[08:47] <user__> there's a precompiled version .deb for i486 but I'm on AMD64
[08:47] <ozzloy> ok, i installed libxerces-c2-dev and now i'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/d6a29ad29
[08:47] <piklesonfire> user__, there's amule in the repos, so you don't have to use imule from source
[08:47] <Vhghost> anyone able to give me a quick hand  ?
[08:48] <piklesonfire> Vhghost, sorry, what's the issue?
[08:48] <user__> piklesonfire but i need iMule for anonymous use with i2p-network...
[08:48] <Vhghost> been trying to get my dcc auto get to work but it shows up in transfers but doesn't start any downloads
[08:48] <Vhghost> in xchat .. ubuntu
[08:49] <_2> !b-e > user__
[08:49] <michael_> hello, i am new comer in this channel
[08:49] <piklesonfire> Vhghost, sorry mate, not familiar with dcc =/
[08:49] <user__> ardchoille the dl link is  http://echelon.i2p/imule/    or better: http://echelon.i2p/imule/iMule-1.3.3-src.tbz
[08:50] <Vhghost> its ok
[08:50] <piklesonfire> welcome michael_
[08:50] <taterpeel> hello
[08:50] <piklesonfire> user__, neither one of those links work for me? what about you ardchoille
[08:51] <Coolrazor> ok, so I'm a dork and deleted my /var/lib folder... what do I do?
[08:51] <ardchoille> Neither of them works for me either
[08:51] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, like you "sudo rm -rf /var/lib" 'd it?
[08:52] <user__> no, you need to have i2p installed
[08:52] <Coolrazor> Piklesonfire, I type "rm -r /var/lib"   no f
[08:52] <user__> or: http://echelon.i2p.to/imule/iMule-1.3.3-src.tbz
[08:52] <user__> but it's damn slow
[08:52] <paranoid_ndroid> I'm getting 3 ; 4 second freezouts in firefox periodically
[08:52] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, ahhhh, crap dude, and i'm guessing you were root?
[08:52] <paranoid_ndroid> the music also stops sometimes
[08:52] <Coolrazor> sniff, yeah, I was root
[08:52] <piklesonfire> welcome taterpeel
[08:52] <piklesonfire> btw
[08:53] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, i'm hoping you have a backup system in place?
[08:53] <ardchoille> user__: it's not sl0ow, that tarball is 11mb
[08:53] <Coolrazor> yeah, but it's kinda oldish
[08:53] <Coolrazor> what does that store anyway?  Can reinstall my apps?  isn't it just libraries?
[08:54] <user__> and it's slow, ardchoille
[08:54] <ardchoille> user__: yeah
[08:54] <user__> I found my error, it's not a .src file but it's adirectory.
[08:54] <user__> it ends with -src and i thought it was .src and it was one file
[08:54] <user__> Am sorry
[08:55] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-03/3907.html
[08:55] <user__> I'm an absolute beginner on linux
[08:55] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, looks like you're not alone ;p
[08:55] <piklesonfire> user__, it's np dude, good luck :]
[08:55] <taterpeel> user theres lots of tutorials online, im a beginner too
[08:55] <taterpeel> but its great fun
[08:56] <Coolrazor> Piklesonfire, yeah, I'm on that site already.  is there an Apt-get version of that yum log?
[08:56]  * _2 suggests to user__ learning color codes of the terminal command    ls
[08:56] <user__> I hope you're not mad with me. Thanks for your help, guys. And yes, you can laugh about me. I won't do that mistake again
[08:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> !paste
[08:56] <taterpeel> why be a windoze zombie when you can use linux and actually use your brain
[08:56] <taterpeel> like it used to be
[08:57] <taterpeel> in the world of computers
[08:57] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, sadly, i THINK it's under the /var/lib folder, but if you open synaptic, reinstall all packages that are installed, it MAY bring your system back
[08:57] <_2> taterpeel cause vedging out is like so dope dude
[08:57] <taterpeel> lol
[08:57] <ardchoille> user__: No one's laughing, we all had to learn at some point.
[08:58] <paranoid_ndroid> I'm getting 3 ; 4 second freezouts in firefox periodically.
[08:58] <piklesonfire> user__, exactly, no one is a linux power user over night ;p
[08:58] <rookeeeeeeeee> could anyone help me out with this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/82365/
[08:58] <user__> i did the ./configure now and last message is a "checking for zlib in peer directory... no
[08:58] <user__> configure: error: unable to use zlib - no peer found
[08:58] <user__> " that's something to worry about?
[08:59] <piklesonfire> user__, open synaptic, search for zlib, install ;]
[08:59] <piklesonfire> you'll want the -dev packages for compiling
[08:59] <user__> piklesonfire i guess i'll never be one, but i'm trying my best. and i've been on linux only for two days now
[08:59] <Wartorn> Was wondering if anyone know of any dbus documentation for gvfs?
[09:00] <user__> piklesonfire, ok thx
[09:00] <piklesonfire> user__, you'll make it some day, no worries dude ;p
[09:00] <Coolrazor> Piklesonfire, I just tried to reinstall mysql and got " Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock"  [tear]
[09:00] <luddite> after i add someting to /etc/modules how can i get it to be added/recognised without rebooting?
[09:00] <piklesonfire> Wartorn, i'm not familiar with it, but what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:00] <_2> user__ maybe apt-get isntall zlib-bin zlibc   ???
[09:01] <Wartorn> Communicate with gvfs, for an example get a gvfs mountpoint by usb ID
[09:01] <user__> zlib1g is already installed, but not zlibc, do i need that one?
[09:01] <piklesonfire> luddite, "sudo modprobe [module you added]"
[09:01] <user__> ok
[09:01] <Wartorn> i can communicate with HAL to get lots of information (about, say, a camera)
[09:01] <Wartorn> but not any mount points
[09:01] <Wartorn> if the camera is PTP
[09:02] <ozzloy> how do i just get aptitude to show me the files it places for the package libxerces-c28-dev ?
[09:02] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone help me set up nfs
[09:02] <luddite> piklesonfire - thanks :-)
[09:02] <ozzloy> aptitude show libxerces-c28-dev is almost-but-not-quite what i want
[09:02] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, sorry man, you MIGHT be sol. _2 any ideas dude?
[09:02] <piklesonfire> luddite, any time
[09:02] <user__> still same error
[09:02] <_2> ozzloy use dpkg for that.     dpkg -L packagename
[09:03] <piklesonfire> user__, -dev packages too, that's why i advised to use synaptic ;]
[09:03] <ozzloy> _2: thanks
[09:03] <drag0n`> hey guys, how can i make sure webmin is running on my ubuntu?
[09:03] <ardchoille> !webmin | drag0n`
[09:03] <user__> piklesonfire zlib1g-dev?
[09:04] <drag0n`> !ebox
[09:04] <luddite> how do i remove the atheros drivers?
[09:04] <luddite> i can de-activate them but not remove them
[09:04] <drag0n`> ardchoille, but it was running fine for the past year though
[09:04] <ardchoille> drag0n`: running and supported are two different things :)
[09:04] <piklesonfire> it's probably something like libzlib-dev, user__
[09:05] <ardchoille> drag0n`: i.e. we can't help you with webmin
[09:05] <drag0n`> ardchoille, yeah, if it doesnt support it, it shouldnt run from teh start, right?
[09:05] <drag0n`> ah ok
[09:05] <drag0n`> gotcha
[09:05] <ozzloy> _2: thanks!  i needed to -llibxerces-c
[09:05] <_2> luddite most modules are part of the kenrel package   if the atheros is, then you can't     (you could delete it, but not remove it)
[09:05] <ardchoille> drag0n`: it may run great, but we can't support it
[09:05] <ozzloy> er... g++ -lxerces-c
[09:05] <luddite> _2 - how do i delete it please
[09:05] <user__> piklesonfire zlib1g-dev workd for that error. now i still need wxwidgets but entering this term in synaptic renders nothing, but there are a lot of wx2 things
[09:05] <_2> ozzloy kewl.
[09:06] <ardchoille> drag0n`: if you decide to use ebox, please read the two warnings at the top of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[09:06] <piklesonfire> luddite, as _2 stated, if it's part of the kernel you can't totally remove it. and atheros is part of the kernel (to my understanding)
[09:06] <ompaul> !webmin
[09:06] <_2> luddite i suggest against it,  but the rm command as superuser   the file is somewhere in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[09:07] <_2> luddite at least test by first moving it to a safe place.
[09:07] <luddite> ok thnks
[09:07] <_2> luddite that way you can replace it if needed.
[09:07] <ozzloy> piklesonfire: thanks to you too!
[09:07] <luddite> i will move it to the trash can :-)
[09:07] <piklesonfire> user__, you'll probably want the libwxbase2.8--dev
[09:07] <_2> it's your funural.
[09:07] <piklesonfire> ozzloy, any time
[09:08] <luddite> i was kidding
[09:08] <Coolrazor> ok, if I can't fix deleting my /var/lib directory, then how do I backup mysql so I can reimport the databases after I fallback to an earlier server state?  Where are mysql database files stored?
[09:08] <piklesonfire> _2, at least if luddite moves it to the trash can she can restore it... i'm with you, i advise strongly against it
[09:08] <luddite> ok - will try in morning  - must go out and bingedrink tonight
[09:08] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, you can use mysql to export the tables
[09:09] <piklesonfire> Coolrazor, sadly, i don't know it off hand, google "linux" "mysql" "dump" or "export" and you should get what you need
[09:10] <lodder> piklesonfire: If you found something let me know
[09:10] <Coolrazor> piklesonfire, ok thanks for your help.  We'll see if I can't restore without any real data loss =)
[09:10] <_2> hey i don't mind answering questions, as long as the customer knows what they want, even if it's "how do i blank my complete hdd while linux is running...."     pfft.
[09:10] <piklesonfire> lodder, i've got nothing man, but i'm still searching too. heh, i don't quit too easily
[09:10] <dukenukem> i'm wondering why it is i don't have the option of "wireless" connection in my network settings. can anybody think why this is the case?
[09:11] <piklesonfire> "sudo rm -rf /" rofl
[09:11] <rafting> when the wireless doesnt worm why doesnt it give better error reports?
[09:11] <piklesonfire> dukenukem, if you're wireless drivers aren't installed
[09:11] <_2> piklesonfire no.   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdd    :)))
[09:11] <piklesonfire> _2, ROFL, i like that one too
[09:11] <dukenukem> pickles, they were installed, then it said they were "restricted" and now there is no wireless
[09:12] <dukenukem> does this make any sense?
[09:12] <piklesonfire> _2, or in my case sda
[09:12] <_2> yep.
[09:12] <dukenukem> i'm sorry i have searched forums and i have books i'm following but i'm still getting nowhere
[09:12] <piklesonfire> dukenukem, yeah, check the restricted drivers manager, see if there's a driver listed in there, if it is, install, restart, check the wireless again
[09:13] <dukenukem> thanks pickles, i'll have a look there. makes sense.
[09:13] <reqqit> Is there an alternative thumbnail app rather than using ImageMagicks woefully poor API? Yeah, they updated, and yeah there aren't any debs for the latest version
[09:13] <gbear14275> anyone here done any work customizing their interface that could point me to a howto?
[09:14] <piklesonfire> dukenukem, np :]
[09:14] <reqqit> If there was a thumbnail tool that was optimised to create multiple version using one in memory version of the image, one file load, and then save out all requested versions, that would be good
[09:14] <arrenlex> reqqit: To generate thumbnails? Imagemagick is honestly easiest... for i in * ; do convert -thumbnail 240x240 $i $i.jpg ; done
[09:14] <reqqit> arrenlex, yeah, think about it a little more, and you see the flaws in that
[09:14] <dukenukem> pickles, it says that my hardware does not need restricted drivers.
[09:14] <gbear14275> I know it sounds pretty... trivial, but was really impressed recently with some linux layouts and wouldn't mind giving a shot to a few desktop improvements
[09:15] <reqqit> if you want to change aspect of produce thumbnail, you can make as many as 3 resizes, unless you use newer syntax, which there are no debs, and I loath the fact that it took them so long to even recognize this as a feature
[09:15] <roger_> wow xchat gnome must be a ghetto version, this alot better
[09:15] <gbear14275> but am still new enough to prefer a little guidance
[09:15] <piklesonfire> gbear14275, gnome-look is a great place to start at customizing the look of your gnome interface
[09:15] <dukenukem> i'll tell you what i did earlier. i downloaded linux drivers. i navigated to the folder in terminal and "make" and "make install" and it seemed to install.. then it said it was "restricted" and now i can't see a wireless option in the network settings.
[09:15] <lodder> piklesonfire: well I have manage to get an installation based debootstrap and then install ubuntu-desktop but the sudo doesn't work then
[09:15] <reqqit> arrenlex, would you drive a car that took 6 years to decide that a handbrake was a good idea? (ok, some mercedes have a footbrake, and that is kinda cool)
[09:15] <piklesonfire> lodder, hm, that's interesting.
[09:15] <gbear14275> piklesonfire: I've been looking around there some, my biggest hurldle right now is trying to understand what compiz, gtk, etc. do and how they play together
[09:16] <piklesonfire> lodder, tbh, i've never used ubuntu under a dom
[09:16] <dukenukem> if i ever get this to work imma gonna blog it for other frustrated users.
[09:16] <lodder> piklesonfire: ah
[09:16] <reqqit> I am thinking to just write my own, but come on. Load image, resize it using a simple thumbnail syntax... I'll check google code and sf.net
[09:16] <mib_m4pruk> Mac OS ftw!
[09:16] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how to play the files on this page? http://www.madhouselive.com/jinstewart/
[09:16] <gbear14275> I've seen some really amazing layouts and would like to understand what some of the more common plugins are... like, what i can use to view network throughput and cpu speeds and RAM available, etc.
[09:16] <arrenlex> reqqit: What do you mean by change the aspect? You can force it to resize exactly to the numbers you give, which will give it a different aspect. You just need a !.
[09:17] <roger_> play what files
[09:17] <rookeeeeeeeee> the pranks roger_
[09:17] <Johnm> reqqit: thats a silly analogy. Relating ImageMagick to a car it already has a well tuned engine, a handbreak, a stearing wheel and every normal common applicance you might need. Perhaps its lacking heated seats, but that isn't a core piece of the requirements.
[09:17] <dukenukem> i wonder if some nice person in this room with some experience with wireless on ubuntu might be able to private message me
[09:17] <remoteCTRL> can somebody please help me fix my pulse audio?
[09:17] <Johnm> reqqit: Frankly, what you're suggesting is relatively minor. There is nothing against you of course, obtaining the most recent version and ammending it as you see fit.
[09:17] <dukenukem> consider it a challenge, i have spent considerable time trying to get this to work.
[09:18] <roger_> hey remote i jsut got mine going last night
[09:18] <roger_> you have no sound right
[09:18] <arrenlex> reqqit: I have not used any other apps myself, but a search through the repos shows several. galrey says it makes thumbnails. What have you looked into so far?
[09:18] <gbear14275> dukenukem: what are you trying to work on?
[09:18] <roger_> and using sound blaster live 24 bit
[09:18] <dukenukem> gbear, do you mind if i private messsage you?
[09:18] <mib_m4pruk> vista ftw
[09:18] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how to play the files on this page? http://www.madhouselive.com/jinstewart/
[09:18] <lodder> piklesonfire: http://dmarkey.com/wordpress/?p=16 here is a good start for what I used, but if you could point me into the right direction for the sudo thing would be greate
[09:18] <gbear14275> no, but i can't promise to help ;)
[09:18] <remoteCTRL> roger_: well it keeps crashing, amarok fex. always says xine was unable to initialize audio drivers
[09:19] <piklesonfire> lodder, thanks for the link, let me have a look, i'll pm you in a min
[09:19] <Johnm> rookeeeeeeeee: if you're trying to play them via gstreamer (or a gstreamer based app, such as totem) you need to install the gstreamer bad plugins
[09:19] <lodder> piklesonfire: k
[09:19] <Deadboys> is there a forum for general help
[09:19] <rookeeeeeeeee> oh thanks
[09:19] <Deadboys> or a channel even
[09:19] <remoteCTRL> roger_: then if i kill all /dev/snd and /dev/dsp it basically works again but amarok still causes ugly troubel
[09:19] <Johnm> rookeeeeeeeee: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad is the package iirc.
[09:19] <DoruHush> rookeeeeeeeee: select a link you want to play, open your prefered media player, select Open URL (or similar), paste the address, hit play
[09:19] <Johnm> rookeeeeeeeee: assuming you're running Ibex.
[09:20] <user__> piklesonfire: thank you. finally it worked. I had to dl many other things like flex, java-gcj-compat, and wxgtk
[09:20] <user__> thanks
[09:20] <rookeeeeeeeee> yes Johnm
[09:20] <piklesonfire> user__, any time buddy :]
[09:20] <user__> :-)
[09:20] <mib_m4pruk> Linux sux!
[09:20] <Deadboys> I've got a wierd problem i got my cell phone wet earlier today not alot but just a little and it stopped working, so i wated about 5 hours and tried to turn it back on
[09:20] <Deadboys> and it looks like its working just fine but it constantly vibrates
[09:21] <Deadboys> anything i can do or is it broken?
[09:21] <mib_m4pruk> ..
[09:21] <Coolrazor> Ack, the two mysql dump commands I found aren't working because /var/lib is gone.  :(  i tried: "mysqldump" and "mysqlhotcopy"
[09:21] <piklesonfire> !enter | Deadboys
[09:21] <remoteCTRL> Deadboys: how's this ubuntu related?
[09:21] <Johnm> mib_m4pruk: You're of course welcome to your own opinion however much it lacks technical backing, but perhaps trolling could be done elsewhere?
[09:21] <Scarecro1> Hi All
[09:21] <gbear14275> Deadboys:
[09:21] <arrenlex> Johnm: Do not feed the trolls.
[09:21] <piklesonfire> !offtopic | Deadboys
[09:21] <Deadboys> its not im sorry but does anyone know.
[09:22] <gbear14275> Deadboys: oops, take it apart and use rubbing alcohol on it, it will displace the water but will evaporate from fine spaces UNlike water
[09:22] <mib_m4pruk> Johnm: Just kidding, watned to see your reactions in here. A quick way to see how people react to other users. Whether they are pure fanboys or not.
[09:22] <piklesonfire> deadboys, put it in your car w. the heater on high.
[09:22] <piklesonfire> let it dry for about 2 days
[09:22] <arrenlex> Coolrazor: Your problem looks similar to what I went through a few weeks ago, but I missed your initial description of the problem. What did you run into?
[09:22] <Deadboys> okay thanks and ill keep on subject
[09:22] <paranoid_ndroid> I'm getting 3 ; 4 second freezouts in firefox periodically.
[09:23] <dukenukem> i am trying to install wireless. i downloaded the linux drivers from the manufacturers website (tp-link). i *think* i installed the drivers by cd'ing to the drivers and "make" "make instal"-ing it. it did its thing, then said the drivers are "restricted". should i give up and try ndiswrapper or should i persevere?
[09:23] <piklesonfire> arrenlex, if Coolrazor is still talking about the same issue he was earlier, it was he deleted the /var/lib directory
[09:23] <Johnm> mib_m4pruk: generally not a good approach to it :)
[09:23] <reqqit> Johnm, no, I think thumbnailing is really a fundamental issue, and fixed aspect thumbnails are really important, the current 8.10 IM in repo doesn't support it without 3 in memory resizes, really, that is crazy - scares me in fact, I am looking for others (I love imagemagick, but I'll check for something more specific, I have 100,000 5mp+ images that need to be processed for a project)
[09:23] <Deadboys> now an on topic question does anyone know anything about running ibex in a dual boot environmet with windows 7
[09:23] <Coolrazor> arrenlex, I deleted my /var/lib directory... not fun.  So, since I can't rebuild it, that I know of, I'm trying to backup mysql to do a restore of the server (test/non-production server)
[09:24]  * Xer0 w00tz
[09:24] <arrenlex> Coolrazor: I believe /var/lib/mysql is where mysql stores its databases. If you deleted that I don't think you have much left to back up.
[09:24] <nick_> my teminal and pop up boxes show a blank area
[09:24] <Johnm> reqqit: What I'm trying to say is generally, it doesn exactly as you need. It might not support a specific function you require, but thats when the benefits of OS licensing helps. I don't see the requirement to resize multiple times on a single pass as a fundemental requirement personally. But thats likely because I've never needed to do so.
[09:24] <fyq> Hello Everyone!
[09:25] <dukenukem> hmm. okay. uhm. is there a way i can tell what drivers i have installed?
[09:25] <Xer0> dukenukem: for what device
[09:25] <dukenukem> wireless.
[09:25] <Coolrazor> ...serious?  That's just awesome... Well, I guess I learned a valuable lesson.  I'll keep looking though
[09:25] <luddite> damn - no drinks- cancelled
[09:25] <ikonia> dukenukem the drivers are part of the kernel unless the device is not supported
[09:25] <Xer0> i use airdriver-ng
[09:25] <reqqit> Johnm, I agree, and it does do what I want, but it is a really old app that has just fixed on really really quite important, and probably, the single most used function of it (I'd guess by 99.99%)
[09:25] <dukenukem> when i plug the wireless device in, nothing happens. so i installed some drivers. still nothing.
[09:26] <rookeeeeeeeee> Johnm, that didnt work
[09:26] <dukenukem> is there a way to confirm that my drivers are installed?
[09:27] <Johnm> reqqit: so I guess the upstream release has the function you need, but the ubuntu .deb doesnt?
[09:27] <dukenukem> "restricted drivers manager" says i don't need restricted drviers.
[09:27] <rafting> i have windows vista, i read on wikipedia that ndiswrapper doesnt work with it
[09:27] <rafting> true?
[09:27] <Johnm> rookeeeeeeeee: what happens when you try and play it?
[09:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> nothing
[09:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> it opens a blank window
[09:27] <dukenukem> i guess my only other option is to use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers, yeah?
[09:27] <dukenukem> perhaps i'll try that. if that doesn't work i guess i'll just bang my head against this wall.
[09:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> with no titlebar
[09:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> or menus
[09:28] <dukenukem> okay. i'll be back! all going wrong..
[09:28] <piklesonfire> rookeeeeeeeee, i can't play them either, but it says the mp3 player isn't on there (if we're talking about the site you posted)
[09:29] <Gain> anyone know a good channel for just random help on tech
[09:29] <rookeeeeeeeee> piklesonfire, but i played them once before before an OS reinstall
[09:29] <Johnm> rookeeeeeeeee: ah I see, that sounds a little like the mplayer plugin. I'd actually recommend to use the totem based plugin, but you can overcome this by simply downloading those mp3's and playing them locally through totem/mplayer/banshee/audio player of choice
[09:29] <piklesonfire> rookeeeeeeeee, then maybe we're both missing something essential to playing them.
[09:29] <Johnm> rookeeeeeeeee: ie: right click, save as, etc.
[09:29] <Deadboys> if the device works
[09:31] <arrenlex> Gain: You could try freenode's general help channel, #freenode. I have had good luck there with random hardware questions. :)
[09:32] <Gain> thanks
[09:32] <reqqit> Johnm, right, there is no deb for the latest that I need (and both factors of the oldness of such a 'tool' type release, and the lateness of the central feature, bugged me)
[09:32] <DJones> Gain: From memort, there is also a #hardware channel that may help
[09:34] <tux91> What's the default image viewer in ubuntu?
[09:34] <Johnm> reqqit: then can I suggest you download the upstream version and install it (perhaps under /home somewhere, or /opt) so you can use it till the package maintainers release a new one. Or, if you would like to help out a little more perhaps check that a bug hasn't been opened, if it hasn't open one (though I'm sure the package maintainer is aware) and perhaps even attach a dsc.
[09:35] <Johnm> tux91: depends on the spin, generally with Gnome its Eye of Gnome (eog)
[09:35] <user__> is there a tool on linux to check for unued files that can be deleted? like temporary files and so on?
[09:35] <tux91> Johnm: thx
[09:36] <rookeeeeeeeee> could anyone PLEASE help me with nfs
[09:36] <user__> and why is it that if my linux says 0 bytes free and synaptic crashes therefore, and i then delete o file of 806 MB size, that after that i only have 400 MB of free space??
[09:37] <rookeeeeeeeee> ive got this guy helping me, but hes at work and its moving slower than a snail
[09:37] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee what is the problerm
[09:37] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee what is the problem
[09:37] <rookeeeeeeeee> i keep getting an error
[09:37] <rookeeeeeeeee> i can link you to it
[09:38] <rookeeeeeeeee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82365/
[09:39] <brown> yo
[09:39] <Evilscare> ﻿/msg ChanServ DROP #ubuntu-server-it 58dc10ca:be91feea
[09:39] <heri> join #af83
[09:40] <Guest39977> whats  ya best linux programe
[09:40] <ziroday> !best > Guest39977
[09:40] <portal> ok, i have just installed the new ubuntu, but again there's no wireless net working... help!
[09:40] <blood> i cant see ya private msg
[09:40] <arrenlex> rookeeeeeeeee: Might it be this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/213444 ... I think there is a modified .deb attached to that bug somewhere; does it fix your problem?
[09:41] <user__> the compilation was a success, but when i try to run the prog i get this:    Permissions on the imule configuration directory too strict!
[09:41] <user__> imule cannot proceed. To fix this, you must set read/write/exec
[09:41] <user__> permissions for the folder '/usr/local/bin/'
[09:41] <user__> what is meant by "fix"?
[09:41] <smaftoul> Hi all
[09:41] <piklesonfire> user__,
[09:41] <ikonia> user__ probably you need write access
[09:41] <ziroday> user__: how did you install it?
[09:41] <smaftoul> does anyone knows the ulimit set by apache2 (on intreprid)
[09:41] <ziroday> portal: what wireless card?
[09:41] <piklesonfire> user__, run sudo chmod 777 /usr/local/bin
[09:41] <ikonia> piklesonfire: no
[09:41] <ikonia> user__: ignore that
[09:41] <piklesonfire> user__, that is NOT secure though
[09:41] <blood> ziroday whats ya private msg
[09:41] <ikonia> do not do 7777
[09:41] <portal> umm i don't know
[09:41] <ikonia> user__: what is the application
[09:42] <smaftoul> and is it's 1024 (i mean the ulimit -n) , how do I increase it "cleanly" (/etc/apache2/envvars ? /etc/security/limits.conf ?)
[09:42] <piklesonfire> ikonia, that will give read write on the /usr/local/bin
[09:42] <user__> ikonia: it's imule
[09:42] <ziroday> blood: hmm?
[09:42] <bullgard4> What does 'NLS' stand for in the environment variable NLSPATH? "The path for finding message catalogs used in processing messages."
[09:42] <user__> and i did sudo make install
[09:42] <user__> but make without sudo
[09:42] <ziroday> portal: can you pastebin the output of lspci please
[09:42] <user__> write access exists only for root
[09:42] <ikonia> piklesonfire telling someone to blindly 777 a directory, especially one accessed with internet connection is not good
[09:43] <portal> i'll try
[09:43] <ikonia> user__: change it tot eh user want to run it as
[09:43] <Finnish> I have DV-video in Kino, and it's out of sync. Can I fix it somehow in Kino?
[09:43] <blood> ziroday it said  please see my private message
[09:43] <piklesonfire> user__, run imule as sudo too
[09:43] <user__> ikonia i can't change it, as i'm user
[09:43] <ikonia> user__ use sudo to change teh permissons with the chown command
[09:43] <piklesonfire> ikonia, i wasn't telling him to do so blindly, i've been working w. him on compiling, i knew what he's been doing
[09:43] <ziroday> !best > blood
[09:44] <user__> pkilesonfire: i can't run imule as root, only in terminal, but i don't know what corresponds to the -exe on windows
[09:44] <portal> how i send it
[09:44] <ikonia> user__: open nautlius with gksudo to set it with the gui
[09:44] <ikonia> user__: what ar eyou worried about windows, your using linux
[09:44] <piklesonfire> user__, yeah, do wat ikonia suggested
[09:44] <user__> ikonia gksudo nautilus ?
[09:44] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. anyone know a good db modeling tool like mysql workbench, only one that works on 64 bit ubuntu 8.10?
[09:44] <ikonia> user__: that will open teh file manager with root permissions
[09:45] <ziroday> !pastebin | portal
[09:46] <portal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/82375/
[09:46] <snek> anybody have experience installing Ubuntu on a IntelMac? I repartitioned my hdd using BootCamp, can I now just boot Ubuntu CD and install on the new partition without hassles?
[09:47] <ziroday> portal: do sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic and restart
[09:48] <user__> thank you ikonia and piklesonfire   -  it worked. i made usr/local/bin read- and wwriteable for user andy
[09:48] <user__> :-)
[09:48] <portal> all those at the same sentence
[09:48] <ziroday> portal: eh?
[09:49] <portal> linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic???
[09:49] <ziroday> portal: that is the package name, you have to install it
[09:49] <eddy> hi
[09:49] <eddy> bot alot of help
[09:50] <portal> i done that sudo command... restart then??
[09:51] <paranoid_ndroid> I'm getting 3 second freezouts in firefox periodically.
[09:52] <ziroday> portal: you installed the package?
[09:52] <portal> i don't know where it is
[09:52] <eddy> any programne that u can talk to the computer
[09:52] <piklesonfire> man, it's almost 5am here, i've been in here since... like 1ish... oh gesse
[09:53] <joedirt> paranoid_ndroid: mo info
[09:53] <bavarianboobs> hello there
[09:53] <paranoid_ndroid> joedirt, what do you want to know?
[09:53] <piklesonfire> hey bavarianboobs
[09:53] <paranoid_ndroid> it freezes
[09:53] <paranoid_ndroid> and then continues working
[09:53] <bavarianboobs> I have a question
[09:53] <piklesonfire> bavarianboobs, shoot
[09:54] <bavarianboobs> about developer's dump
[09:54] <piklesonfire> bavarianboobs, i'll give it my best ;p
[09:54] <rcahilig> guys I tried to install layer7 and IPP2P, I installed IPP2P using patch-o-matic-ng, I compiled a new kernel 2.6.25 and iptables 1.4.0. The problem is when I tried to run the iptables -m ipp2p --help command, it returns an error message that says: iptables v1.4.0: Couldn't load match 'ipp2p':(null). I tried loading the ipp2p module using modprobe and tried the command again but I got the same error. Please help me guys. I'm using Ubuntu Hardy Heron server. T
[09:54] <bavarianboobs> if you go to /usr/share/app-install/desktop , you'll see a lot of .desktop file for applications you don't have installed
[09:54] <portal> haaa :)
[09:55] <bavarianboobs> so I assume that the devs didn't remove this stuff prior to release
[09:55] <buzukelis>  how to get list of any phone numbers from google.com ?? i wana get lot of them.....
[09:55] <gbear14275> whats the command to show cpu info in terminal?   I thought it was lscpu
[09:55] <rtz> server irc.efnet.co.uk
[09:56] <piklesonfire> bavarianboobs, you know, i never noticed that before... i'll look into it
[09:56] <gbear14275> command for cpu info in terminal?  anyone?
[09:56] <bavarianboobs> thanks, piklesonfire
[09:56] <Jasa> Sup all ? =)
[09:57] <piklesonfire> welcome Jasa
[09:57] <gbear14275> piklesonfire:
[09:57] <bavarianboobs> noting much, Jasa... I want cereals for breakfast
[09:57] <piklesonfire> what's up gbear14275
[09:57] <user__> my ubuntu just crashed
[09:57] <olli> #ubuntu-de
[09:58] <Jasa> Hey there, could someone recommend good tv watching programs other than mythtv or kaffeine for Ubuntu ?
[09:58] <gbear14275> piklesonfire: sorry, could you tell me the command to display cpu info in terminal, its not lspci, and its not lscpu, and i'm having a brain fart and can't recall it
[09:58] <piklesonfire> metv Jasa
[09:58] <Jasa> Does it support s/s2 ? =)
[09:58] <joedirt> Jasa: try miro
[09:58] <Jasa> or just dvb-t ?
[09:58] <piklesonfire> gbear14275, easy one :] cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:59] <snek> http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2008/12/06/graduate-from-a-wubi-install-to-a-dedicated-partition/
[09:59] <piklesonfire> bavarianboobs, i'm still looking into that, btw
[09:59] <gbear14275> there it is thank you! :)
[09:59] <bavarianboobs> ?
[10:00] <snek> gbear14275: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:00] <reqqit> How is bavaria this time of year? cold?
[10:00] <bavarianboobs> lol, piklesonfire... just post something in the dev secret forum or something :P
[10:00] <snek> oh i'm late :)
[10:00] <bavarianboobs> I don't know, I'm not from Bavaria
[10:00] <bavarianboobs> I just like their boobs
[10:00] <reqqit> I've lived there, and I concur
[10:00] <snek> bavaria is a beer here in NL
[10:00] <piklesonfire> bavarianboobs, haha, idk, i see bug reports posted about this, but i think it's to install applications or something, i'm not sure
[10:00] <ikonia> bavarianboobs stop that discussions please, this is a support channel only
[10:00] <industrialbs> boobs.....
[10:01] <piklesonfire> gbear14275, is that the info you needed?
[10:01] <industrialbs> sorry
[10:01] <ikonia> industrialbs Sop, now
[10:01] <bavarianboobs> 0_o ? I was asked about that...?
[10:01] <ikonia> stop
[10:01]  * industrialbs did stop, was apologizing
[10:01] <ikonia> thanks
[10:01] <DJ_HaMsTa> how can i get the MAC address of my wireless card? iwconfig does not seem to display it
[10:01] <ikonia> DJ_HaMsTa ifconfig will
[10:02] <portal> okay i restarted this machine... there's no file ...
[10:02] <DJ_HaMsTa>  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-00-CA-1A-51-4F-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[10:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> ah
[10:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> thanks
[10:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> but.. how many 0s should i cut out from there ?
[10:02] <piklesonfire> DJ_HaMsTa, none
[10:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> cant have all those 0s at end..
[10:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> shouldnt it be 12 numbers max ?
[10:03] <piklesonfire> DJ_HaMsTa, 00-00-CA-1A-51-4F should be it
[10:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> prfct thkz
[10:03] <piklesonfire> DJ_HaMsTa, sorry, yeah, it's 6 sets of 2 for a mac /doh
[10:04] <mrglinux> which tih command I can install ubuntu live in text mode
[10:04] <user__> is it normal that if i have 0bytes free and delete 806 MB and afterwards i have 400 MB free?   0+806=400?
[10:04] <ikonia> mrglinux you need to use the "alternative cd"
[10:04] <mrglinux> oh
[10:04] <user__> or is my isntallion flaed?
[10:05] <ikonia> user__ what ?
[10:05] <oerby> can somebody tell me what the default way of doing extended desktop on 8.10 is? thank you
[10:05] <piklesonfire> user__, what is the filesystem you're using?
[10:05] <user__> i isntalled with wubi on ntfs next to windows
[10:05] <user__> as i'm still leraning linux
[10:05] <user__> it's my second day on linux
[10:06] <piklesonfire> user__, that could be the issue, ntfs handles the removal of files differently. even ext2 and ext3 are vastly different. the ONLY fs i've heard of that gives you back 100% space from deleted files is xfs
[10:06] <user__> i couldn't log in as my home couldn't be written in / no authentecation/legitimation file could be copied, so i had to start from another lv cd, mount the image and delete a file that occupied to much space
[10:07] <piklesonfire> ikonia, please correct me if i'm wrong.
[10:07] <bavarianboobs> anyone knows a way to remove pidgin's colours on your nicknames? this room looks like a gay parade. not that there is something wrong with that. as long as you can parade the rest of the people
[10:07] <ikonia> piklesonfire I don't support wubi so I have no idea
[10:07] <user__> ah, ok, so nothing to be worried about, piklesonfire?
[10:07] <piklesonfire> user__, i'd say no, but like ikonia i don't exactly support wubi. filesystems are def my forte though ;]
[10:08] <user__> and are there tools that look for temporary internet files and other non.used files in order to free space?
[10:08] <piklesonfire> if you decide to go ubuntu 100% call me when you partition user__  lol.
[10:08] <piklesonfire> user__, there are such tools, but i've never used them, on linux i simply delete the files myself.
[10:08] <eddy> whats the best packet sniffer
[10:09] <user__> piklesonfire: i don't have your number to call you, hehehe. but i definitely will change to linux totally, once i managed to use it
[10:09] <user__> ah, ok
[10:09] <piklesonfire> user__, it's an expression ;p plz don't EVER call me :ppp just find me on here or aim or yahoo or msn.... lol
[10:09] <piklesonfire> eddy, wireshark for gui.
[10:10] <user__> hahaha
[10:10] <eddy> pikleesonfire do u ever get booted from yahoo
[10:10] <bavarianboobs> http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4534 nevermind... pidgin devs suck
[10:10] <piklesonfire> eddy, no.
[10:11] <ikonia> bavarianboobs don't use it then, instead of slating them
[10:11] <Robbie_Crash> How can I prevent tar from following Symlinks at all?
[10:11] <piklesonfire> idk bavarianboobs, pidgin is pretty amazing
[10:11] <bavarianboobs> ikonia: it's the default IM client of Ubuntu...
[10:11] <ikonia> bavarianboobs so ?
[10:12] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, http://linux.die.net/man/1/tar
[10:12] <user__> and i heard that linux doesn't crash, but mine crashed already twice, and pidgin closed itself totally without saying a word  three times, eahc after about an hour or two.
[10:12] <user__> also do to my windows fs?
[10:12] <bavarianboobs> I should place a bug report on launchpad about it
[10:12] <ikonia> user__ your using wubi, I don't find that a stable example
[10:12] <piklesonfire> user__, linux doesn't crash is def a myth :p
[10:12] <Robbie_Crash> I'm trying to back up my computer, and if I do tar cvzf file (--excludes) / it goes into my homedir, and backs up /home/robbie/music/* as well as the real location which is /music/*
[10:13] <piklesonfire> but user__ like ikonia said, wubi = not stable platform to base an opinion on
[10:13] <user__> maybe it crashes, but ppl say far less often than windows. maybe you're right and it's the 4GB installation of wubi
[10:13] <Jasa> Btw, are there any other good tweaks for XFS than noatime and logbufs=8 ?
[10:13] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, try the --dereference option?
[10:14] <shrini> how to get chat message alert in pidgin?
[10:14] <user__> when i migrate totall to ubuntu do i need to make a fresh install, or do i simply migrate from my wubi instalaltion?
[10:14] <Theeb> my volume shortcut increases the volume twice and mute then unmute at the same time :\
[10:14] <ikonia> user__ you need a fresh install
[10:14] <user__> ikonia: ok. thank you
[10:15] <NoSound321> Can some one help me with a bad sound driver of nvidia ? Cuz when i plug in my head phone on my laptop it still play's the sound trough my speakers.... Please pm me ty :)
[10:15] <piklesonfire> user__, fresh install, i advise livecd unless you get comfy partitioning, then use alt cd and create your own partition map
[10:15] <snek> user_: http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2008/12/06/graduate-from-a-wubi-install-to-a-dedicated-partition/
[10:15] <user__> comfy?
[10:15] <Robbie_Crash> piklesonfire wouldn't dereference dump them twice? once when they were pointed to from my home dir, and then again when it got to the actual drives?
[10:15] <piklesonfire> snek, thanks for the post
[10:15] <dukenukem> hello. i am installing a wireless card, yeah? i am using the ndiswrapper method. i installed ndiswrapper. i got the winxp drivers and installed them using the inf. the proiblem is: still nothing has changed in network settings -- shouldn't i get the option of "wireless" now??
[10:16] <adam7> dukenukem: did you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[10:16] <user__> thank you all
[10:16] <dukenukem> yes adam7.
[10:16] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, no, deref tells it to not dump the symlinked files, to dump the files it points to, ie, /music/ not the folder in your home folder
[10:16] <snek> user__:  if you haven't installed much you might want to do a fresh install though...
[10:16] <adam7> dukenukem: rmmod it and then modprobe it again
[10:16] <NoSound321> Can some one help me with a bad sound driver of nvidia ? Cuz when i plug in my head phone on my laptop it still play's the sound trough my speakers.... Please pm me ty :)
[10:16] <shrini> I want to see the chat messages in a popup. I use pidgin.
[10:16] <dukenukem> thanks adam7, i'll try it.
[10:16] <shrini> any plugin is there?
[10:17] <user__> piklesonfire, snek: thanks. installation is pretty easy on ubuntu so it won't be to much work to re-install the few things i have already installed. :-)
[10:17] <Aleckss> Does anyone have any idea why nvidia wouldn't have GeForce 8600M GT drivers but would have 8700M GT drivers on their website?
[10:17] <piklesonfire> shrini, libpopup plugin for pidgin is what you're looking for
[10:17] <Robbie_Crash> piklesonfire so it won't go through home, see that the files are referenced, dump them, and then after it gets out of home and gets to music dump them again? I get that it won't dump them as /home/music/folder/folder/file.mp3 but I don't know if it's smart enough to not dump them again when it gets out of home and to /music
[10:17] <piklesonfire> user__, any time
[10:17] <dukenukem> yo adam7, i rmmod and remodded and it still doesn't recognise "wlan0", and nothing shows up in network settings
[10:18] <snek> user__:  yeah i would suggest that as well, just sometimes people come here with loads of changes already made which could save them some hassle.. plus that tutorial is really new so figured posting it a few times today might help some regulars ;)
[10:18] <adam7> dukenukem: what does iwconfig say?
[10:18] <dukenukem> no such device
[10:18] <shrini> piki: thanks, how to get in ubuntu?
[10:18] <user__> :-)
[10:18] <adam7> dukenukem: can you pastebin the iwconfig output?
[10:18] <NoSound321> Some one can help me with nvidia sound drivers ???
[10:18] <dukenukem> you want me to paste exactly what is says?
[10:18] <shrini> piki: I tried guifications. it shows the activities. not the chat messages
[10:19] <dukenukem> "wlan0 No such device" is exactly what it says. the command i used was iwconfig wlan0
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: are you there dude?
[10:19] <adam7> dukenukem: but if it says that, then it recognizes your card
[10:19] <adam7> dukenukem: what wireless card do you have?
[10:19] <dukenukem> i do not have the wireless card connected at the moment, would that make a difference?
[10:19] <ikonia> remoteCTRL yes
[10:19] <dukenukem> i am using a TP-link WN321
[10:20] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, it won't dump them in home, it will pretty much ignore them... then when it gets to /music, it will dump them. if you want all mp3's excluded, you could use the --exclude *.mp3 option, or if you want just the /music AND the music listed in your home dir, you could use --exclude from [file] and in the [file] have listed the 2 dirs, on seperate lines. make sense?
[10:20] <NoSound321> dukenukem, ues it would
[10:20] <NoSound321> yes*
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: nice! care to help me with a pulse audio issue please?
[10:20] <adam7> dukenukem: when it says "no such device", it means that the card isn't there
[10:20] <ramon> i want to create i live distro to a usb stick and i dont have enough memory so i want to transport the iso straight to the source (usb stick) does anyone know how to connect as ftp?
[10:20] <adam7> which makes sense
[10:20] <dukenukem> damn, sorry, i didn't realise that. i will disconnect this machine and try it with the wireless card.
[10:20] <ikonia> remoteCTRL I{'m not mega with pulse, but I can certainly look at it
[10:20] <kantian> 大家好，有用中文交流的吗？
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: that would be /var/log/messages: http://www.nopaste.org/p/ah212nEdJ
[10:20] <dukenukem> thanks for your help adam7.
[10:20] <dukenukem> so just out of interest...
[10:20] <Robbie_Crash> piklesonfire total sense, I just don't want to back up the same files twice.
[10:20] <adam7> dukenukem: no problem, it should work better when you plug the card in :)
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: thanks a lot, appreciate it!:)
[10:20] <dukenukem> wlan0.. that is what it calls the wireless card.
[10:20] <Robbie_Crash> piklesonfire thanks
[10:21] <adam7> dukenukem: yep
[10:21] <NoSound321> Some one can help me with nvidia sound drivers ???
[10:21] <dukenukem> sweet.
[10:21] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, i totally understand, as a fellow tar user, i feel your concern buddy, but this should help you out
[10:21] <ramon> i am using unetbootin....i want to create i live distro to a usb stick and i dont have enough memory so i want to transport the iso straight to the source (usb stick) does anyone know how to connect as ftp?
[10:21] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: what i done so far is this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 but to no result i am afraid
[10:22] <Robbie_Crash> piklesonfire definitely. Last question: how much space will i *really* save by using tar -z vs without it, like most of my data is eithr photos, audio or video
[10:22] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, anytime btw :]
[10:22] <adam7> Robbie_Crash: if your data is already compressed, compressing it more won't help a whole lot
[10:22] <adam7> Robbie_Crash: and photos, audio, and video are generally already compressed, so...
[10:23] <pr3z10501> Hi to everybody
[10:23] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, it cuts it down by about 1/4. if you use -j and have bzip installed, it does exactly what it claims and cuts it in about half.
[10:23] <snek> ramon: are you running intrepid (8.10)?
[10:24] <pr3z10501> I'm trying to install Creative Video IM Pro (VF0230) driver on Ubuntu 8.10
[10:24] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, my total install, just / excluding /home and /media is about 8gigs, -j has it down to about a 2.5G backup file
[10:24] <koshar1> ﻿Robbie_Crash wouldnt you be better off using rsync and rdiff for your backups.
[10:24] <pr3z10501> does anyone have some experience about this webcam?
[10:24] <koshar1> Robbie_Crash or even partimage?
[10:24] <Robbie_Crash> adam7 yeah, that's what I figured, but backing up almost a TB I could probably save a few 10GB chunks
[10:25] <Melik> pr3z10501:
[10:25] <Robbie_Crash> koshar1 I dunno, tar is easy.
[10:25] <Melik> what webcam?
[10:25] <sybux> hi all
[10:25] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, koshar1 esp if you're talking about partimage. wow, that would be massive backups
[10:25] <pr3z10501> Melik: Creative Video IM Pro (VF0230)
[10:25] <puneeth> !nexuiz
[10:25] <koshar1> piklesonfire personally i partimage the O/S and rsync the media files
[10:25] <ikonia> remoteCTRL: that most odd
[10:26] <sybux> I'm using ssh to connect to my server and I'd like to enable color shell. where can I change the config so that ssh is set to xterm-color in stead of xterm ?
[10:26] <piklesonfire> koshar1, that's the great thing about linux, it lets us do what we want the way that suits us best :]
[10:26] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: agree on that
[10:26] <Melik> just give me a sec, pr3z10501 i'll look to see what i can find
[10:26] <ramon> snek yes
[10:27] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: my problem is basically that every third time or so that i launch vlc i have no sound so i kill all /dev/snd and /dev/dsp* that fixes it
[10:27] <koshar1> the O/S backup is about 3 gig and the rsync backup is very fast as it only incrumentally backs up newer or changed files, and given the media files are already compressed theres little point tarring them
[10:27] <ikonia> remoteCTRL truthfully wihtout lookingat pulse audio, which I can't at the moment, I don't know
[10:27] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: but amarok throws an error stating that xine was unable to initialize any sound drivers and after that i get the lines in /var/log/messages
[10:27] <Robbie_Crash> koshar1 I just want something that I'm going to be able to run as a cron once a week and then when I nuke my system and buy new harddrives and don't have 5 different physical arrays, I can just throw my old one over my new one, without having to worry about mapping partitions to proper locations
[10:27] <snek> ramon: there is a tool to make a live-usb under System / Administration called "Create a USB Startup Disk"
[10:28] <koshar1> Robbie_Crash its very easy to use partimage and rsync
[10:28] <ramon> snek i want to create a bootable usb drive  with unetbootin but i dont have enough memory
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: aaaaw so i finally found something that you can't fix, i think i gotta make a mark in my calnder for that:D
[10:28] <JCA_> hi all
[10:28] <snek> ramon: hmm that's a bit beyond me.. how much ram do you have? i've never run out of ram using it
[10:28] <ramon> snek but i want to make it for a platform that is on the internet
[10:28] <ikonia> remoteCTRL ha, if I had a box with sound on it now to play with I'd work on it, but all the lab machines have no sound
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: thanks a lot for looking into it though:)
[10:28] <piklesonfire> koshar1, sounds pretty awesome, but i like my backups being tarred gpgd, then i put em in an iso, burn the iso, and finally copy the iso file to a usb drive, so i get 2 backups :]
[10:29] <ramon> sneck i guess no enough
[10:29] <ikonia> remoteCTRL if it's still a problem for you, nudge me in say 5 hours time when I get home and i'll play with sound with you
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: i see:)
[10:29] <roger_> anyone know much about qt4 designer
[10:29] <koshar1> piklesonfire sounds fine, i use hard drives to back up now, fed up with optical media
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: that a word! really very nice of you man:)
[10:29] <Robbie_Crash> koshar1 do I need to worry about actual physical disks for partimage or rsync? partimage makes me think I'm going to have to backup /movies to one thing, /music to another, and then whatever else the seperation is
[10:29] <piklesonfire> koshar1, again, to each their own :]
[10:29] <ikonia> remoteCTRL thats fine, just hard to work it thorugh with no hardware
[10:30] <snek> ramon: are you sure it's ram it's complaining about and not just the free space on your usb stick or something like that?
[10:30] <Robbie_Crash> or is it strictly files based, not actually dealing wiht partitions and actual disk images?
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> ikonia: ya that i understand
[10:30] <koshar1> piklesonfire besides with half a tb of media opticals take ages, and if i edit a single tag on an mp3 i needed to back up the whole volume using opticals, now with a sata removable rack life is a LOT easier/
[10:31] <ramon> snek nah i just trying to download from the internet...is there anyway to change the place to download perhaps to the same usb?
[10:31] <sybux> quit
[10:31] <sybux> exit
[10:31] <sybux> quit
[10:31] <piklesonfire> koshar1, dvdrw works great for me, and see, i don't have TB and a half to back up, i barely scratch 10 gigs before backup and then it's maybe 4 after backup.
[10:32] <piklesonfire> koshar1, besides, i hear that partimage doesn't work on encrypted filesystems
[10:32] <roger_> remoteCTRL why you using VLC for, isn't it kinda limited
[10:32] <remoteCTRL> roger_: actually vlc hast them most features that i have ever seen in a player exept for visualizations
[10:32] <piklesonfire> Robbie_Crash, it's to my understanding that partimage is partition based, not file based, but i'm not 100% sure on that
[10:33] <JCA_> ? How do i find what php.ini is used i need to get zend framework enabled again after an aptget update?
[10:33] <remoteCTRL> roger_: extremely powerful and normally stable and reliable
[10:33] <roger_> hmm, i'll install quick and see
[10:33] <roger_> maybe i might have the same pulse audio problem wiht it
[10:33] <koshar1> Robbie_Crash as for the partitmage backup you will need to edit fstab and grub if you restore the sys to a different place, ie sdb instead of sda ect, however you can use a uuid to make fstab work but i assume you may still need to treak grub if the entry iant where the mbr is pointing,
[10:33] <luddite> i am trying to sudo modprobe ath5k  and it works but i cant get the driver to  wake up and show me the wirelessnetworks
[10:34] <koshar1> Robbie_Crash as for rsync it works like cp anyway and you define the destination and origin folders.
[10:34] <Robbie_Crash> koshar1 that's one huge benefit for tar, right now I've got things spread over 3 RAID 1 arrays, and 2 single hard drives
[10:34] <remoteCTRL> roger_: well i hope you don't:)
[10:34] <roger_> what kind of file you listening to, mp3's
[10:34] <Robbie_Crash> with tar, if one of those dies, and I consolodate, or just move the mount point, I can just throw my tarball down and be done with it
[10:35] <remoteCTRL> phunny thing is; amarok says xine can't initialize any audio drivers but xine itself plays just fine-.-
[10:35] <remoteCTRL> roger_: mainly yepp
[10:35] <roger_> i got your solution
[10:35] <roger_> kick the damn thing :)
[10:35] <varun_> alright guys need your brain juice, i've got dual twinview setup using nvidia-settings right..., is there a way to have like 2 differnt set of workspaces on each monitor?
[10:35] <koshar1> Robbie_Crash ok the raid may pose problems, iam nt a fan of software raid, and hardware raid should look after that for you automaticly.
[10:36] <my_haz> what is the gnome equivelent of ktouch ?
[10:36] <piklesonfire> my_haz, tuxtype?
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> roger_: well vlc isn't bothering me that much cos that one works again after i kill the sound drivers, what really upsets me is amarok not working cos i need that one
[10:36] <my_haz> ktouch is a touch typing tutor for kbuntu, i need to learn ti for russian
[10:37] <ubu2> Hi all
[10:37] <piklesonfire> hey there ubu2
[10:37] <brime> can anyone help me with bind9?
[10:37] <Robbie_Crash> koshar1 the backups I'm doing are for offsite, because I'm *that* paranoid
[10:37] <roger_> aw no eq in vlc wtf
[10:37] <roger_> sound ok in surround :)
[10:38] <giovanni> ciao
[10:38] <giovanni> !addon
[10:38] <snek> ramon: you download straight to the USB stick afaik...
[10:38] <piklesonfire> roger_, there's an eq, go to tools extended settings ;]
[10:38] <roger_> :)
[10:38] <snek> ramon: your usb stick is just too small or you need to empty/format it
[10:38] <roger_> now we rockin
[10:38] <giovanni> !list
[10:39] <varun_> any ideas how i can do this?
[10:39] <Photoguy> I'm having a problem...
[10:39] <koshar1> Robbie_Crash its better to be proactive, i have an offsite backup, its a removable sata drive that lives at my workplace. but as piklesonfire says the beuty with linux is the choice
[10:39] <piklesonfire> varun_, what are you trying to do?
[10:39] <Photoguy> How do I make it so I can edit contents of application folders?
[10:39] <Photoguy> There was an error moving the file into /home/adams/.blender/scripts/blender.
[10:39] <remoteCTRL> roger_: sure there is an eq in vlc
[10:40] <Photoguy> It says: Error moving file: Permission denied
[10:40] <roger_> my god my sub is gonna beat a hole in the floor
[10:40] <Photoguy> HOw can I allow it?
[10:40] <brime> can someone help me, i'm having a problem setting up bind9
[10:40] <snek> Robbie_Crash: paranoid is good :) i setup a work server for a friend with 8 drive raid5 which gets backed up every night with rsync to his house on another raid5 server :)
[10:40] <piklesonfire> brime, i'd love to say i could, sadly i don't remember anything from my bind days, and haven't touched bind in years
[10:41] <varun_> piklesonfire, i;ve got twinview with 2 monitors, i want to be able to view seperate workspaces on each monitor
[10:41] <sakinah> .
[10:41] <brime> ok thanks piklesonfire
[10:41] <piklesonfire> varun_, i have no clue how to do that, sorry =/
[10:41] <piklesonfire> varun_, are you using compiz?
[10:41] <varun_> piklesonfire, yeao
[10:42] <ubu2> varun_ : What is your problem ?
[10:43] <varun_> ubu2, i have twinview duel monitor setup, i was wondering if i can view 2 seperate workspaces on each monitor
[10:43] <SuckMineRawang> .
[10:43] <varun_> ubu2, like maybe run 2 sets of rows of workspaces seperatly on each monitor
[10:44] <lawi>  Hi guys - just deleted my /usr/local folder by mistake. Am using Kubuntu 8.04. Any way I can repair - without having to reinstall the whole system?
[10:44] <ubu2> varun_ : i see. I think it's possible
[10:44] <ubu2> varun_ : but let me check how can you do it !
[10:44] <lawi> Will appreciate
[10:45] <varun_> ubu2: ahh kk, thanks, i thought it was possible too, but wasnt sure how
[10:45] <man77> I have tiny fonts in 8.1 intrepid using added on KDE, XFCE, and Mythbuntu does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:45] <lawi> please tell me how
[10:45] <jin> why isn't songbird not in the repo?
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, its not stable and it did not make the package freeze
[10:46] <pr3z10501> How I use vlc for my webcam? the commad is: vlc v4l:/ and then?
[10:46] <NoSound321> Hello. I have an issue with Pulseaudio, it's working incorrectly. Is there a way to disable Pulseaudio and work through the default alsa driver?
[10:47] <Robbie_Crash> snek if I had the money to have 2 different 8 disk RAID 5 arrays I'd probably be doing something more sophisticated than tarring everything up into one ball
[10:47] <jin> Paddy_EIRE, help me with installing Songbird 1.0 plz
[10:47] <must> #
[10:47] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, dont use the deb :)
[10:47] <must> hi ;p
[10:47] <must> hello?
[10:47] <man77> I have tiny fonts in 8.1 intrepid using added on KDE, XFCE, and Mythbuntu does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:47] <must> ;p how r u?
[10:47] <must> umm..
[10:47] <asdfgaway>   who me?
[10:47] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, the instructions come with the source... I can only help you help yourself
[10:47] <must> 너
[10:48] <mac_> hi, is anyone here who knows how to run touchlib on ubuntu??
[10:48] <man77> and my login screen's resolution is huge
[10:48] <must> ;p r u kidding me?
[10:48] <asdfg>  what's that character ?
[10:48] <must> bull shit!
[10:48] <ubu2> varun_ : what is your video cart type ?
[10:48] <ikonia> mind your language
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> !resolution | man77
[10:48] <ardchoille> must: this is a support channel, did you have a support question?
[10:48] <varun_> ubu2: nvidia 9600gt
[10:48] <ikonia> must: please self moderate your language
[10:49] <must> bull shit!
[10:49] <Paddy_EIRE> kick
[10:49] <jin> Paddy_EIRE, I don't want to compile it :\
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, then I do not know really how else to help you.. I dont believe even the songbird devs offer a deb
[10:50] <snek> Robbie_Crash: i'm not tarring, just rsyncing the directories between the two servers over a simple internet connection, i let rsync compress on the fly
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, so its very unofficial and not supported
[10:50] <bazhang> jin, you need a deb for songbird?
[10:50] <bazhang> jin, which version of ubuntu?
[10:50] <jin> bazhang, Intrepid
[10:50] <ubu2> varun_ : check this http://georgia.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=772883
[10:50] <bazhang> jin, just a second
[10:50] <varun_> ubu2: i found that you can run seperate X for each monitor, but is there anyother way
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang, thats not the issue
[10:51] <varun_> ubu2: ahh kk, i will
[10:51] <bazhang> Paddy_EIRE, ok
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang, he has an error with songbird
[10:51] <jin> I downloaded the .tar.gz for lInux. when running the command inside that folder. I stopped running
[10:51] <bazhang> Paddy_EIRE, there is a deb for hardy and intrepid btw
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, I thought you said you downloaded the deb from getdeb
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang,  I know :)
[10:51] <jin> Paddy_EIRE, I also did that
[10:51] <bazhang> from unter hund
[10:52] <jin> bazhang, where to download?
[10:52] <bazhang> hang on a sec
[10:53] <bazhang> http://unterhund.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/songbird-1-final-linux-installer/ jin this is unsupported you know, so use at your own risk
[10:53] <ULRICH`> hi
[10:53] <varun_> ubu2: thanks, i dont think its possible :( i'll just try and run seperate X
[10:56] <ULRICH`> there is any version of COREL that works on UNBUTU 8.10 ?
[10:56] <chfwiggu1> which progs give me print preview/manipulation for cups? tia
[10:57] <stefg> Hi, i have a Dell mini 9 and need to do a clean install of hardy 8.04.1 *lpia* arch. I'm searching for days now, but can't seem to locate any *lpia*-architecture installation media. Can anyone point me to some more info or a download ?
[10:57] <jin> bazhang, same problem
[10:57] <jin> b2271000-b2272000 r--p 00005000 08:01 2310206    /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmusepack.so
[10:57] <jin> b2272000-b2273000 rw-p 00006000 08:01
[10:57] <jin> is stops right there
[10:57] <stefg> !lpia
[10:58] <bazhang> jin, open the deb with g-debi
[10:58] <pr3z10501> I can't use my webcam :((((( Anyone helps me please?!
[10:58] <kke> i'm looking for a gnome applet that would display the amount of free hd space on specified mountpoints, maybe alerting when running low
[10:58] <bazhang> !webcam | pr3z10501
[10:58] <bazhang> pr3z10501, read those links
[10:58] <jin> bazhang, I did that
[10:58] <pr3z10501> ok
[10:59] <The_ManU_212> hi
[10:59] <bazhang> jin, not the tar.gz
[10:59] <The_ManU_212> http://pastebin.com/m5845dc2 <-- is this worrying? why is the summary wrong, what about sdb2 and sdb3?
[10:59] <ubu2> varun_ :ok
[10:59] <jin> bazhang, I know
[10:59] <jin> it gets the same error
[11:00] <bazhang> jin, well it works here; you may wish to wait until it is included in the ubuntu repos or check ubuntuforums for a solution
[11:01] <vladuz976> when i am in console, everything that has colored text like highlighting is blinking like crazy, what could cause that?
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> vladuz976, are you at a disco?
[11:02] <vladuz976> Paddy_EIRE: funny
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> vladuz976, only kidding... explain a little more please :)
[11:02] <bazhang> pr3z10501, please keep it in channel
[11:02] <adam7> vladuz976: are you using irssi?
[11:02] <vladuz976> adam7: yes
[11:02] <vladuz976> right now
[11:02] <pr3z10501> bazhang: My webcam isn' on the list.
[11:02] <adam7> vladuz976: irssi has been known to highlight things and blink like crazy ;)
[11:02] <bazhang> pr3z10501, which webcam
[11:03] <pr3z10501> bazhang: so my webcam will doesn't work until anyone write the driver
[11:03] <vladuz976> it's is very hard to even use that, as your usernames are highlighted in a different color and everything is just blinking like nuts.
[11:03] <pr3z10501> creative video IM Pro VF 0230
[11:03] <ubu2> vlauduz976 : is this problem just in irssi ?
[11:03] <vladuz976> also doesn't seem to be able to handle new lines
[11:03] <adam7> vladuz976: define "everything"
[11:03] <vladuz976> have to constantly scroll page up and page down to make new lines appear
[11:03] <pr3z10501> 041e:4055
[11:04] <vladuz976> adam7: ok, my background is black, and my font is grey. your username is green and it's blinking like crazy
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> pr3z10501, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607309
[11:04] <Sooke> Hi all
[11:04] <adam7> vladuz976: my username is blinking? just hte usernames, anything else blinking?
[11:04] <ubu2> hi sooke
[11:04] <vladuz976> when i open text files and vim picks up high lighting it blinks
[11:04] <chrislees> Hi, does anyone know what would happen if I had two wireless cards and was connected simultaneously to two networks with internet access?
[11:04] <pr3z10501> Paddy: I read, thks
[11:05] <vladuz976> adam7: anything that's color is other than the standard color
[11:05] <Sooke> Do you know any software unde Ubuntu that creates on th efly web templates so you can use them in your web projects? In win there are a few of them, but I didn't find anything in Linux yet
[11:05] <adam7> vladuz976: are you in a tty (like, a ctrl+alt+f#) or in a gnome-terminal
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> chrislees, explain what you are trying to do and why.. specifically
[11:05] <ubu2> chrissless : it will take the default connection
[11:05] <vladuz976> adam7: tty
[11:05] <pr3z10501> Paddy: Yesterday I read that site, but there's no driver 4 me
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> pr3z10501, then it seem you are out of luck
[11:06] <chrislees> Paddy_EIRE: My neighbour and I have exchanged SSIDs in case one of our internet connections goes down
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[11:06] <chrislees> And I was wondering if we could use eachother's connections to make one really fast connection
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> chrislees, no you cant
[11:06] <pr3z10501> Paddy: thank you
[11:07] <chrislees> Paddy_EIRE: Thanks :-)
[11:07] <jin> I give up on songbird
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[11:07] <adam7> chrislees: they both have seperate IP addresses, so it would be (at the least) very difficult, plus you would need some kind of gateway that has a connection to both networks and probably two wireless cards
[11:08] <ubu2> chrissless : in this case, you will need a load balancer
[11:08] <vladuz976> thanks anyways
[11:08] <chrislees> adam7: Thanks, I thought it wouldn't be simple, but I just got the idea after observing a Network Manager bug (it's showing two wireless cards both connected to my network)
[11:09] <adam7> chrislees: the problem is, if you visit one website, all data for that site will need to go through one connection, otherwise data loss may occur. so you really don't get any benefit from that
[11:11] <bazhang> lsusb | grep Creative in a terminal pr3z10501
[11:11] <brime> ok can someone help me make scene of this log msg? http://pastebin.com/d1b0a3a56 or at least point me is the right direction?
[11:11] <user__> good nite
[11:11] <ubu2> chrissless : http://www.linas.org/linux/load.html
[11:11] <user__> thanks
[11:11] <user__> bye
[11:12] <ikonia> brime your tyring to run a dns server ?
[11:12] <brime> yes
[11:12] <ikonia> brime: well it looks like a permissions issue, I'm assumign your chrooting
[11:13] <[c0re]> how do i reinstall gnome menu????
[11:13] <chilli0> hey all
[11:13] <brime> yes, i'm trying to anyways
[11:13] <man77> HELP! Tiny Fonts! http://tinyurl.com/622eq5
[11:13] <chilli0> does anyone have a tutorial for mounting ipod touch 1.1.4 on ubuntu 8.10?
[11:13] <ubu2> hi chilli0
[11:13] <koshar1> [c0re] you mean add it to the panel, or did you uninstall it completely?
[11:13] <ikonia> brime look at the permissons, remember it needs to be accessable by the user running bind, which is normally named
[11:14] <chilli0> hello ubu2
[11:14] <brime> Hmmmmmm.. ok will do! thanks
[11:14] <jin> *** glibc detected *** ././songbird-bin: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0xb201cfc0 ***
[11:14] <jin> Paddy_EIRE, do you know about that error?
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> man77, I already directed you to a solution
[11:14] <chrislees> ubu2: Thanks for the link; I'm not willing to go into this as a big project (mostly curiosity) but I appreciate the assistance
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> jin, no mate sorry
[11:14] <ikonia> jin thgats not the full errer
[11:14] <[c0re]> koshar1,  uninstall it completely
[11:15] <ikonia> error
[11:15] <man77> oh sorry must'vee missed it
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !fixres | man77
[11:16] <Paddy_EIRE> man77, which graphics card are you using?
[11:16] <jin> ikonia, here is the error: http://pastebin.com/m5b49b458
[11:16] <koshar1> [c0re] i would suspect you would have to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage otherwise you may be able to isolate the packages checking synaptic > menu > history
[11:16] <ubu2> hi
[11:16] <man77> ati radeon HD 3470
[11:16] <ikonia> jin it looks like it's not compatible with that version of glibc
[11:16] <koshar1> i hate it when i cont alt backspace whil i are VMing.....
[11:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !ati | man77
[11:17] <afancy> Hi, my ubuntu seems very slowly
[11:17] <man77> !vmware
[11:17] <jin> ikonia, what do I do? install another version of glibc? or recompile songbird?
[11:17] <ikonia> jin: don't install anything to do with glibc, that is core to youse system
[11:17] <ikonia> jin: did you build songbird yourself
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> afancy, could you be more specific.. its kinda like going to a mechanic and saying the metal thing in my car is broken
[11:18] <jin> ikonia, no, I downloaded the linux .tar.gz from the official website
[11:18] <ikonia> jin log a bug with them, but precompiled binaries are rarley sane amongst multiple distros, I don't know why they build them
[11:23] <Baske> is there any way to discover if im connected to my router via the n standard or g standard?
[11:23] <zeno> which button is super?
[11:23] <ikonia> Baske look at the speed connection
[11:24] <zeno> windows key?
[11:24] <ikonia> zeno: windows key
[11:24] <zeno> ok thx
[11:24] <chilli0> does anyone have a tutorial on how to mount ipod touch , 1.1.4 on ubuntu 8.10?
[11:24] <Baske> the ubuntu connection information reports 48 Mb/s which i think i unlikely
[11:24] <artyg> Could be speed scaling based on connection strength.
[11:25] <nai_> there doesn't seem to be an virtualbox-modules-2.6.24-22 latest is -21 while there is a -22 ? will this fix itself?
[11:26] <artyg> I can ping websites, but they will not load. Any ideas #ubuntu?
[11:26] <ikonia> artyg you working offline in firefox
[11:26] <ikonia> artyg: your using a proxy ?
[11:26] <artyg> No.
[11:26] <ikonia> artyg: a firewall is blocking port 80
[11:26] <artyg> Plus, apt will not download updates after the first 400 bytes or so of files.
[11:27] <artyg> Hurrrrm
[11:27] <artyg> Does Ubuntu have any firewalls blocking 80 by default?
[11:28] <ikonia> artyg nope
[11:28] <artyg> Because it's a brand-spanking-new installation.
[11:29] <chilli0> does anyone have a tutorial on how to mount ipod touch , 1.1.4 on ubuntu 8.10?
[11:29] <mchelen> is it different from normal ipods?
[11:30] <chilli0> ipod touch
[11:30] <mchelen> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[11:30] <ikonia> chilli0 should just auto mount, mine does
[11:30] <chilli0> ikonia:  ipod touch?
[11:31] <mchelen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[11:31] <mchelen> that one is for touch too
[11:31] <ikonia> chilli0 yup, 32gb automounts fine
[11:31] <artyg> Okee, my connection to the internet on ubuntu is all weirded out and messed up, it can't access HTTP or FTP, pings fine but everything else is broken.
[11:31] <artyg> As much as I like pinging, I like downloading stuff a little bit more.
[11:32] <chilli0> ikonia:  so if you plug it in it will mount
[11:32] <ompaul> artyg, that sounds like you have lost dns
[11:32] <ikonia> chilli0:, sorry, I'm telling you a lie, I've not tried my touch, only a mini
[11:32] <snek> artyg: you can ping domains or only ips?
[11:32] <ikonia> I thought I'd done much touch and I've not
[11:32] <artyg> I'm pinging domains.
[11:32] <chilli0> lolz
[11:32] <chilli0> ok
[11:32] <joaopinto> ardchoille, describe "weird and messed up"
[11:32] <joaopinto> ops, was artyg
[11:32] <artyg> Google pings alright, as does every other website.
[11:32] <ompaul> artyg, log out and back in and see how you go
[11:32] <snek> artyg: have you tried browsing to an ip instead of a domain?
[11:32] <artyg> I'm going to try logging first, un momento.
[11:33] <buzukelis> how to find porno site on internet ?
[11:33] <ikonia> buzukelis: don't ask in here
[11:33] <joaopinto> !ot | buzukelis
[11:33] <ikonia> buzukelis: this is for ubuntu support
[11:33] <ikonia> joaopinto: no - that is not even welcome in -offtopic
[11:33] <joeb3_> q
[11:33] <snek> artyg: because if ip works but not domain your browser is somehow not resolving domains to ips but ubuntu is.. would seem to be a browser setting
[11:34] <ikonia> artyg: are you sure firefox is not in offline mode
[11:34] <snek> lol @ buzukelis
[11:34] <joaopinto> ikonia, that is arguable I have seen worse discussions than how to use google there :P
[11:34] <berriop> I have not sound in Firefox-flash using swfdec, any idea???!!
[11:34] <ikonia> joaopinto it's not arguable, he was looking for an unacceptable site, please think before directing people to offtopic, topics like that are not allowed in #ubuntu related channels
[11:36] <berriop> ﻿I have not sound in Firefox-flash using swfdec, any idea???!!
[11:36] <artyg> I highly doubt the problem is related to firefox, because nothing that uses the internet is working.
[11:37] <snek> berriop: any reason why you are using swfdec instead of flashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:37] <ikonia> artyg: so if you do "nslookup www.projecthugo.co.uk" what do you get ?
[11:38] <joaopinto> ikonia, actually I don't remember seeing a list of "unacceptable" sites for ubuntu offtopic, actually that would violate the Ubuntu spirit, anyway I am dropping the subject, thanks for the clarification
[11:38] <jin> heck, I will stick with Banshee
[11:38] <racquad> hi guys! I need to install Ubuntu 7.04 on my desktop, but my mirror is gone. apt-get doesn't find anything. Is there any mirror I could use?
[11:38] <berriop> snek: with flashplugin firefox crashed often, it seems that with swfdec doesnt
[11:38] <artyg> I get network info about me, then Non-auth answer: www.projecthugo.co.uk Address: 88.97.208.58
[11:38] <joaopinto> racquad, that version is too old and unsupported, any reason to not install 8.10 ?
[11:38] <ikonia> artyg: most interesting so you are getting name resolution
[11:38] <bazhang> racquad, that is end of life; you should consider a more recent version such as LTS hardy heron
[11:38] <artyg> And I cannot connect directly to IP addresses either.
[11:39] <snek> berriop: ok, was just curious, i have had no problems with flashplugin-nonfree, but am currently running the official version i installed manually
[11:39] <ikonia> artyg: what happens if you telnet to www.projecthugo.co.uk 80  ?
[11:39] <racquad> joaopinto: yes. I have to install a software that's only compatible with 7.04
[11:39] <artyg> Firefox will just get "Waiting for..."
[11:39] <puneeth> !nexuiz
[11:39] <berriop> snek: besides flash sucks and I want a true open and free os
[11:39] <racquad> bazhang: it's not possible, unfortunately.
[11:39] <artyg> Connected, Escape character is '^]'.
[11:39] <bazhang> racquad, which package
[11:39] <racquad> i tried several mirrors, br.archive.ubuntu.com has not.
[11:39] <ikonia> artyg ok, so nothing is blocking port 80
[11:40] <racquad> bazhang: all packages. I want to use apt-get .
[11:40] <joaopinto> racquad, what software is that ?
[11:40] <racquad> bazhang: apt-get update get's a lot of 404 errors
[11:40] <bazhang> racquad, no, which package you say works only with eol feisty
[11:40] <racquad> joaopinto: microsiga ERP
[11:40] <racquad> bazhang: microsiga ERP, brazilian software
[11:41] <ikonia> artyg: so when you do an sudo aptg-et update does the list update ok ?
[11:41] <kidbuntu> i'm trying to paste something on my /var/www/    but i can't how can i change the group or how do i do this with chmod
[11:42] <ardchoille> kidbuntu: use sudo
[11:42] <joaopinto> racquad, you could setup a chroot just to use that software
[11:42] <snek> kidbuntu: chown user:group /name/of/dir
[11:42] <artyg> When I do sudo apt-get update, it gets the first file (189B), then hangs on the next one.
[11:42] <roger_> i enabled root login on my ubuntu so i can fix stuff :)
[11:42] <roger_> hell with all that console command crap
[11:43] <racquad> joaopinto: the fact is that Microsiga does not support anything different from what they approve
[11:43] <ikonia> artyg interesting
[11:43] <artyg> You're telling me, hahah.
[11:44] <filthpig> !eee
[11:44] <artyg> I believe it's something wrong in the OS, because I can't even access my modem config page.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:44] <ubu3> yo yo yo
[11:44] <racquad> any idea? any mirror?
[11:45] <artyg> Unplugging the power after shutting it off and taking out/putting back in the battery...That seems stupid!
[11:45] <hackwins> i have asus eee
[11:45] <artyg> But it'll probably work.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hackwins:  nice choice
[11:46] <ubu3> any idea of any Advanced Battery Monitor ??
[11:46] <cypr1nus> hello, in which package I can find allegro.h ?
[11:46] <cypr1nus> i can't find the right one
[11:46] <hackwins> i recommend eeebuntu standart for asus eee
[11:46] <artyg> I actually have 3 netbooks, haha.
[11:46] <ubu3> any idea of any Advanced Battery Monitor ??
[11:47] <hackwins> any idea for web of aplications for linux?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> cypr1nus: have you installed build-essential?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> hackwins: how do you mean?
[11:48] <kidbuntu> snek: i tried the chown.. how can i change the owner within the folder /var/ everytime i do it the subfolders locks
[11:48] <hackwins> a list of software to know new programs
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> hackwins: apt-cache search <something>
[11:48] <cypr1nus> ActionParsnip: actually i've just installes
[11:48] <cypr1nus> installed
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> cypr1nus: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070820024136AAl7bit
[11:48] <ardchoille> kidbuntu: it's better to get into the habit of using sudo rather than changing ownership of things outside of $HOME
[11:49] <snek> kidbuntu: this will recursively change the owner of a folder.. so any subfolders will get this user&group too: chown -R user:group /name/of/dir
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> cypr1nus: you may find that build-essentials sorts it out
[11:49] <hackwins> yes i know but someone dont have ubuntu
[11:49] <artyg> Hm, and I was hoping that whole "take out the battery and shut it off" thing would work.
[11:49] <kidbuntu> snek: thanks
[11:49] <goldmetal> my firefox download manager does not show what i have downloaded. how to enable it?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hackwins: this is ubuntu support, for other os's go to their respective channel
[11:50] <cypr1nus> ActionParsnip: installeg and i can't still find allegro.h
[11:50] <cypr1nus> installed
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> goldmetal: tools -> options. Its on main tab
[11:50] <kidbuntu> snek: when i add the -R it says command not foudn
[11:50] <joaopinto> cypr1nus, have you installed the -dev package ?
[11:50] <kidbuntu> found
[11:50] <hackwins> ok thanks the problem its what i only used ubuntu i dont know others os
[11:50] <hackwins> os not distros
[11:51] <artyg> Wait, what the hecK?
[11:51] <snek> kidbuntu: did you sudo? sudo chown -R user:group /name/of/dir
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> goldmetal: under privacy tab, theres options in the history section too
[11:51] <kidbuntu> snek: yes
[11:51] <artyg> My eth0 Rx dropped 850250014 packets...This has to be the problem.
[11:51] <joaopinto> kidbuntu, be careful using a recursive chown ....
[11:51] <cypr1nus> jaopinto: which dev package - liballegro4.2 ?
[11:51] <goldmetal> ActionParsnip, ok thx
[11:52] <joaopinto> cypr1nus, you will need liballegro4.2-dev
[11:52] <snek> kidbuntu: i'm at a loss.. if chown works, chown -R should too :S
[11:52] <afancy> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 8.10. It seems very slow on my computer. What is the reason? is it because i have install the VirtualBox in my Ubuntu?? thanks!!
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> cypr1nus: sudo apt-get install liballegro4.2-dev
[11:52] <joaopinto> kidbuntu, what folder are you trying to modify ?
[11:52] <Livefan> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/3047108018_ded8458476.jpg
[11:52] <hackwins> afancy:
[11:52] <joaopinto> afancy, are you running inside virtualbox ?
[11:52] <hackwins> afancy: 8.10 its not lts
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> afancy: virtualbox will not affect your system unless it is running
[11:53] <kidbuntu> snek: i think i got it.  i didnt do a space.. this what i did.  "sudo chown-R..........." instead of "sudo chown -R"
[11:53] <snek> kidbuntu: ok ;)
[11:54] <kaushal> hi
[11:54] <artyg> Anyone know any magical reasons why an ethernet adapter would drop several hundred million rx packets?
[11:54] <afancy> joaopinto: i run it, but now i have closed it . it still a little slow!
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> artyg: try sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[11:54] <kaushal> I have set ulimit for tomcat user
[11:54] <kaushal> using /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:55] <kaushal> but when i do ulimit -a it does not show
[11:55] <artyg> Command not found?
[11:55] <kaushal> for tomcat user
[11:55] <afancy> ActionParsnip: do u know what is the reasions?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> artyg: try tab coompleting network, it may be networking
[11:55] <cypr1nus> ActionParsnip worked for me, thanks
[11:55] <afancy> ActionParsnip: should I paste my top info?
[11:55] <artyg> Tab coompleting? Do explain.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> afancy: are you fully updated? have you installed video drivers?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> afancy: not just yet
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> cypr1nus: awesome
[11:56] <joaopinto> afancy, if you are running ubuntu from virtualbox and you don't have enough cpu/ram, it will be slow
[11:56] <joaopinto> afancy, you should try it using a live cd
[11:56] <afancy> ActionParsnip: yes, exactly, I have install NVIADIA driver
[11:57] <Toznoshio> Hi community! Is there a way of opening a program in desktop #2 from within desktop #1 ?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> afancy: ok, are you running ubuntu in a virtualbox or have you installed it to your hard drive?
[11:57] <afancy> ActionParsnip: exactly, after I install the NIADIA driver, it turn slower
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> afancy: did you configure the driver?
[11:58] <afancy> ActionParsnip: oh, no. I install VirturalBox under Ubuntu, running the WinXP
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> afancy: so xp is the virtualbox guest and ubuntu is the host?
[11:58] <Newb`s> OMG
[11:59] <Newb`s> was 1337 user
[11:59] <Newb`s> users*
[11:59] <Newb`s> need another :D
[11:59] <FloodBot1> Newb`s: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <afancy> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:59] <joaopinto> !enter | Newb`s
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> afancy: just checking, ok
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> afancy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> afancy: run it from your menu once installed and configure the driver
[11:59] <Newb`s> joaopinto: soz, I bugged è_é
[12:00] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, hi
[12:00] <joaopinto> Newb`s, do you have a support question ? Your language is turning a bit annoying...
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> afancy: make sure you sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:00] <afancy> ActionParsnip: this monring i have installed "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 177) [recommended]"
[12:00] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, i did edited /etc/security/limits.conf
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> afancy: ok cool, get the tool and it will help you configure
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> hey i've tried everything the forums suggest, but since upgrading to ibex (like an hour ago) compiz doean't work any more. and now due to my tinkering, its in low resoultion more and its bigger than normal.. can anyone assist?
[12:01] <kaushal> but still it shows the default value of 1024
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: reinstall video drivers
[12:01] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i've done that like 12 times  activated, rebooted.. uninstalled.. redownloaded, reinstalled  etc
[12:02] <afancy> ActionParsnip: do u think it is becouse of this driver?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: could try envyng-gtk
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> afancy: i think they are used, just not configured
[12:02] <afancy> ActionParsnip: as last night, it is fast.NOT SLOW
[12:02] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: is that something i sudo apt-get install? and what is it?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk; gksudo envyng-gtk
[12:03] <artyg> Quick question, would putting something which would formerly go in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-network work in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[12:03] <artyg> Or should I create blacklist-network?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: are you editing it with gksudo gedit /etc/security/limits.conf
[12:03] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: btw i have a radeon 9550 (yes i know its older.. but it ran fine an hour ago, and runs my EQ to my satifaction.. i just figured it may be helpful to know what card i have
[12:03] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, yes
[12:03] <darren_> hey channel, am having a screen resolution problem on this new install: way too big 800x600, and that's the highest resolution ubuntu's system-->preferences-->screen resolution will give me
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: not a bad card at all
[12:04] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, I have logged in as root
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: oh
[12:04] <lawi> anyone installed mysql5 from source? I keep getting the error "FATAL ERROR: Could not find /fill_help_tables.sql"
[12:04] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: okay paste that as written or was that 2 lines?
[12:04] <adam7> lawi: does the package not work?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: not a ood idea for day to day stuff
[12:05] <gms3gr> hi all
[12:05] <icqnumber> lawi, installing from the source = breaking your system
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> lawi: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?11,200909,200937#msg-200937
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> icqnumber: hardly
[12:05] <darren_> could someone please help me? I'm used to configuring xorg back when xorg.conf still gave more information than it does these days, and I don't want to install kde on this machine, which is another way I usually use
[12:05] <gms3gr> i need a video converter to compile avi files to mp4
[12:05] <afancy> ActionParsnip: So, how should I do now?
[12:05] <gms3gr> any ideas?
[12:05] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: do i reboot now?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> afancy: install that app and configure video
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: did the driver install with envyng-gtk
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: dide you see a nice gui and an install procedure?
[12:06] <cypr1nus> whenever I want compile a simple allegro.h project i get: http://paste.org/index.php?id=4427
[12:06] <afancy> ActionParsnip: I have installed it this morning
[12:06] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: it said "setting up envyng-gtk" is that what you mean? and no errors occurred
[12:06] <cypr1nus> any ideas to compile it succesfully?
[12:07] <adam7> cypr1nus: you're missing a -dev package
[12:07] <afancy> ActionParsnip: So, how to configure it to make it faster
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> afancy: set refresh rates and resolutions
[12:07] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: no gui came up.. was the part after the ; a seperate line to paste?
[12:07] <cypr1nus> adam7 - i've installed liballegro4.2-dev and doc too
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: gksudo envyng-gtk
[12:07] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, whats the solutio
[12:07] <tony_> come si chiama il programma della sun per le virtualizzazioni s.o.
[12:07] <kaushal> solution
[12:08] <afancy> ActionParsnip: set it higher or not very high. As now I have chosen the highest
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: i dunno, ive never used that before
[12:08] <Fazer2> a friend of mine did an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 (dvd) and now he can't write the "o" letter
[12:08] <milk> пыщь1
[12:08] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: the "starting thingy" came up but nothing opened
[12:08] <adam7> cypr1nus: I have no idea what whatever you're trying to compile does, but 1), use the package in the repo if you can, and 2) it looks like an xorg dev package, judging by the fact that everything starts with X :D
[12:08] <Fazer2> it works only in some places - login screen, sometimes works in firefox
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: run it from your menu then
[12:08] <kaushal> any body here has used limits.conf file
[12:09] <katzian> hi could someone help me with this "wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:09] <ardchoille> !it | tony_
[12:09] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: its not in the menu
[12:09] <NicEXE> how can I run 32 bit applications on my 64 bit system?
[12:09] <katzian> i recompiled wine and i'm now getting that error
[12:09] <gms3gr> any ideas for a video converter from avi to mp4?
[12:09] <adam7> katzian: why did you recompile wine?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok well try: sudo -i; envyng-gtk
[12:09] <milk> где блин русскоязычный канал
[12:09] <katzian> because i made a few bugfixes
[12:09] <adam7> gms3gr: mencoder, in the mplayer pkg
[12:09] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: do i need to ad it manually from "edit menus"?
[12:09] <ardchoille> !ru | milk
[12:09] <darren_> anyone able to help me with resolution issue? intel integrated agp, can't believe 800x600 is highest it'll go when it will play commercial dvds
[12:09] <gms3gr> thnx
[12:10] <milk> Спасибо)
[12:10] <katzian> adam7, i recompiled wine because i patched a file and that 's it
[12:10] <katzian> but that error is pissing me off
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:10] <ardchoille> milk: Пожалуйста
[12:10] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: okay.. nothing happened when i did that.. and then i looked in all my menus again.. and still not there
[12:10] <adam7> katzian: cd /; find . -name libwine.so.1
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok, try tab completing after you type envy, see what you get
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: you should see something gtk shaped
[12:11] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: okay it just says envyng
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> go with that then
[12:11] <dual> What email software is in 8.10 by default? Evolution or Firebird?
[12:12] <ardchoille> dual: evolution
[12:12] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: and you do mean in the terminal right? or was i supposed to be somewhere else?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> !info firebird
[12:12] <katzian> adam7, /home/ik/Escritorio/wine-1.0.1/libs/wine/libwine.so.1.0
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: always terminal with me dude :)
[12:12] <calum> I have just installed Ubuntu Ibex and when I do http://localhost in Firefox, it cannot find it :(
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> dual: firebird is an OLD mozilla browser
[12:12] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: dudette but capice
[12:12] <mchelen> thunderbird
[12:13] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: :-)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: nice, i call everyoone dude, even my mum
[12:13] <adam7> katzian: you probably need to add that to your library path; how you do that, I don't know
[12:13] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: okay i hit enter after i tabcompleted it and it said ""-g" for the GTK frontend (Not yet available)"
[12:14] <NicEXE> ActionParsnip: I didn't say "install an app" I said "run an app"
[12:14] <katzian> adam7, lol, i was thinking the same but indeed i don't know how to do that
[12:14] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: all it said on tab complete was envyng  nothing after
[12:14] <calum> Should http://localhost not be accessible by default using Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: you need those libs to run 32bit apps
[12:14] <katzian> calum why would it be available
[12:14] <NicEXE> ActionParsnip: what libs?
[12:14] <katzian> if you didn't installed a webserver?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: ia32-libs
[12:14] <katzian> or had you installed one?
[12:14] <generalsnus> 	Is there any way of viewing a LTSP session? like remote desktop into a thinclient session..
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: did it not install right?
[12:15] <calum> I had one installed in Hardy Heron but because of problems with CUPS or network (not sure which) I decided to do a full install, having deleted the existing HH.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: try that again
[12:15] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: "envyng-gtk is already the newest version."
[12:16] <calum> So, I guess, katzian, I have to install a webserver :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: then gksudo envyng -g
[12:16] <calum> ty for alerting me to that :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: are you using gnome or kde?
[12:16] <NicEXE> ActionParsnip: I already have ia32-libs installed
[12:16] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: gnome
[12:16] <cerby> hi, can someone help me? im trying to install Ubuntu to a USB external harddrive but it doesnt come up as a partition i can install to
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: ok then any 32bit app you run, it will run
[12:16] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: did i need to reboot after we installed it the first time?
[12:17]  * calum ponders how he installed the webserver last time
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: no, but after envy does its trick you will
[12:17] <NicEXE> ActionParsnip: Tbeta does not work
[12:17] <adam7> katzian: I'm thinking something like LD_LIBRARY_PATH but that's not right
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !apache | calum
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs | NicEXE
[12:17] <djungelkraem> is it possible to sync an ipod touch to rhythmbox?
[12:17] <NicEXE> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d2335c390
[12:18] <darren_> anyone able to help me with resolution issue? intel integrated agp, can't believe 800x600 is highest it'll go when it will play commercial dvds
[12:18] <calum> ty ActionParsnip.  However, I had managed to install the native /var/ww one and I quite liked it :)
[12:18] <amanu> hello can we run browser:INTERNET EXPLORER in ubuntu
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534
[12:18] <SlimeyPete> amanu: google for "ies4linux"
[12:18] <ikonia> amanu using wine, sure
[12:18] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: guh... same error as when i tab completed and it only put envyng "ERROR: you need to provide a parameter:"  but one of the parameters IS -g... BUT it says its not yet available  only textual interface or qt4 frontend
[12:18] <cerby> hi, can someone help me? im trying to install Ubuntu to a USB external harddrive but it doesnt come up as a partition i can install to
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> NicEXE: then you need to get those libraries
[12:19] <amanu> ok
[12:19] <ikonia> cerby you need to make a partition
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: use -g
[12:19] <adam7> katzian: try this (I have no idea if this will work, but): Create a new file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ called .conf with the directory name of the WINE directory in it, then run sudo ldconfig
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok try a reboot and try gksudo envyng-gtk
[12:19] <cerby> i made the entire harddrive 1 partition but it doesnt come up during the install process
[12:19] <cerby> does it have to be a certain format? i.e. fat32 etc
[12:19] <adam7> katzian: I grabbed that from http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/10/how-to-add-shared-libraries-to-linuxs.html
[12:19] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i did.. thats the result when i did... should i screenshot it? i'll put it up on my photobucket if yes
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> cerby: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l
[12:19] <ikonia> cerby: then you've not made the partition correct
[12:19] <ikonia> cerby: partition is not a file systenm
[12:20] <darren_> anyone able to help me with resolution issue? intel integrated agp, can't believe 800x600 is highest it'll go when it will play commercial dvds
[12:20] <ikonia> cerby: you need a partition with NO file system on it
[12:20] <cerby> no it doesnt, the only thing that comes up is the partitions on my internal harddrive
[12:20] <cerby> had do i do that?
[12:20] <calum> Oops, sorry, ActionParsnip, I thought you were suggesting xampp but I realise now you were not.  Thanks for your help.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: try a reboot. its very microsofty but can work wonders
[12:20] <ikonia> cerby: you need to delete the partitonm and re-create it using the ubuntu installer
[12:20] <katzian> adam7, i'm gonna try that
[12:20] <f00fyf00f3rz> !usb | cerby
[12:21] <cerby> ok
[12:21] <ikonia> f00fyf00f3rz: he wants to install TO a usb disk
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> cerby: run sudo cfdisk /dev/<hard drive name> and check the partitions are there
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> cerby: did you write the partition table after you created?
[12:21] <cerby> no i dont know how to do that
[12:21] <cerby> im new to linux, have only used windows before
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> cerby: in terminal
[12:21] <darren_> bbl
[12:22] <f00fyf00f3rz> ikonia: "Method 1: Installing Ubuntu directly to USB drive from installer CD"
[12:22] <ikonia> cerby use the installer gui
[12:22] <ikonia> f00fyf00f3rz: where does it say that in the factoid
[12:22] <cerby> if i go onto the installer, my usb harddrive doesnt show, only my internal one
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> cerby: if you wanna use cfdisk, the gentoo handbook has an awesome guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?chap=4&part=1
[12:22] <ikonia> cerby: ahh now we are getting somewher
[12:22] <f00fyf00f3rz> ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent method 1
[12:23] <ikonia> f00fyf00f3rz: I'll update the factoid to word that better, thanks
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: any better?
[12:23] <f00fyf00f3rz> ikonia: thanks
[12:23] <RichiH> http://ubuntu.org
[12:23] <cerby> just looking at the guide now
[12:24] <adam7> katzian: what does echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH give you?
[12:24] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: no aaaaand now i think i messed up.. but i don't know how to stop the calamity
[12:24] <SweRazze> Hi everyone.
[12:24] <SweRazze> anybody who care to help me?
[12:24] <adam7> !ask | SweRazze
[12:24] <mep> hi
[12:25] <SweRazze> How do i enable ACPI in my pc , im noob to this and i really want Uvuntu Server edition to work on my webserver machine
[12:25] <Nemes> does anybody know the name of this character: | ?
[12:25] <ikonia> Nemes: pipe
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: does gksudo envyng not work
[12:25] <adam7> Nemes: pipe
[12:25] <amanu> SlimeyPete:yes i got a folder of ies4linux after extracting how to install and use it
[12:25] <Nemes> ikonia, adam7, thanks
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: or gksu envyng-gtk
[12:25] <adam7> !ie | amanu
[12:25] <adam7> oops
[12:25] <adam7> !ies4linux | amanu
[12:25] <adam7> that's the one :)
[12:26] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i did the gksudo like before.. and same result as before.. it didn't open.. and its still not in the menu.. so i tried the -g like before  and this time i got a different error "ERROR: Make sure that envyng-qt is installed" and so.. um i did.. and now i think its installing kde :-(
[12:26] <SweRazze>  How do i enable ACPI in my pc , im noob to this and i really want Uvuntu Server edition to work on my webserver machine
[12:26] <cerby> thankyou ikonia and ActionParsnip, theres lots of useful tips in those links u both gave me, will give them a read and try it out, thanks again
[12:26] <sobersabre> hi. does ubuntu 8.10 support intel 2180 cards ?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok well if you dont already have it you are gonna install qt libs
[12:26] <SweRazze>  How do i enable ACPI in my pc , im noob to this and i really want Uvuntu Server edition to work on my webserver machine
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: then you can run gksudo envyng-qt
[12:27] <katzian> Adam7 it didn't worked
[12:27] <adam7> SweRazze: in the BIOS
[12:27] <adam7> katzian: what does echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH give you?
[12:27] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: whats the line i have to type qt-libs   libsqt?
[12:27] <SweRazze> yeah , but where in the bios?
[12:27] <katzian> seem i can't minimize Warcraft III without patching this
[12:27] <adam7> SweRazze: no idea, they're all different
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: if you run: sudo apt-get install envyng-qt
[12:27] <SweRazze> okay , any info i cna get from bios that could help u tell me where?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: it will install the qt libs to
[12:27] <adam7> SweRazze: you shouldn't need ACPI to run Ubuntu, though... (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: did you say you had a radeon 9550?
[12:28] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: ahha!! it worked.. gui up!!
[12:28] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok, sweet
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok, click the ati tab and select install with hardware detection
[12:29] <dual> Does Ubuntu 8.10 still use Pidgin for IM by default?
[12:29] <fosco_> dual: yes
[12:29] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: no tabs for ati.. and only a checkbox under enabled and an apply button
[12:29] <dual> fosco_ Thanks.
[12:29] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: all systems go?
[12:29] <BleSS> how to know of where is a file? its package name
[12:30] <SweRazze> i have looked throught all options in Setup ( a.k.a bios ) in my pc,  cant find where to enable ACPI
[12:30] <askan> today i got the following message, when starting firefox: /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.4/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: you should see nvidia / ati in a list on the left
[12:30] <askan> any idea?
[12:30] <jrib> BleSS: dpkg -S
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: click ati where you see it on the screen, then click apply
[12:31] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: EnvyNG has detected that the headers for your kernel are missing and cannot be installed"
[12:31] <SweRazze>  i have looked throught all options in Setup ( a.k.a bios ) in my pc,  cant find where to enable ACPI, anyone can help me?
[12:31] <SweRazze> Also it says all files is corrupt
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: then you need your kernel headers
[12:31] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: okay lead the way
[12:31] <ackbahr> Hi guys! I'm SSH-ing my computer at home, and I'd like to login into a gnome session via the console.... Can I do that?
[12:31] <jim_p> dual, yes!
[12:32] <BleSS> jrib: thanks!
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: can you give me the output of uname -a
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: you may need another terminal
[12:32] <jim_p> ackbahr, you will need vnc for that
[12:32] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  you could install a vncserver and start a vnc session that runs gnome.. then connect with a vnc client.. if thats waht you  want.
[12:32] <jayde_drag0n> Linux MASTER 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 18:32:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:32] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: er Linux MASTER 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 18:32:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:32] <dr_willis> ackbahr,   what OS is the 'guest' machine using?  there may be othe ralternetives.. dependign on exactly what you want to do
[12:32] <jim_p> dr_willis, big brains meet :P
[12:32] <SweRazze>  i have looked throught all options in Setup ( a.k.a bios ) in my pc,  cant find where to enable ACPI, also says all files is corrupt. who can help me?
[12:33] <jim_p> SweRazze, is it a laptop or desktop?
[12:33] <SweRazze> Desktop i guess
[12:33] <dr_willis> Guess?
[12:33] <jim_p> Sweetandy, what mobo is in it?
[12:33] <SweRazze> absolutely not a laptop :P
[12:33] <SweRazze> its a normal old pc
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.24-22-generic
[12:33] <jim_p> Sweetandy, what mobo is in it?
[12:34] <Geksogen999> кто нить по Русски говорит
[12:34] <jim_p> !ru | Geksogen999
[12:34] <ackbahr> dr_willis: Well, I do have a vncserver on the ubuntu 8.04 64bits host machine, but what I need to do before I can vnc it is start the graphical session!
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: then do whatever you did to get envy up
[12:34] <amanu> i installed ie4linux
[12:34] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: um it said no
[12:35] <amanu> but where can i found it to use
[12:35] <jim_p> amanu, may i ask the reason why?
[12:35] <jim_p> amanu, under wine maybe
[12:35] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m5849314a
[12:35] <SweRazze>  i have looked throught all options in Setup ( a.k.a bios ) in my pc,  cant find where to enable ACPI, also says all files corrupt , i use old desktop hightower pc
[12:36] <SweRazze> anyone can help?
[12:36] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  you are missunderstanding how vnc can work. You can ssh in, run vncserver, and that will spawn a 'hidden' vnc session running whatever desktop you tell it to.  you edit the users .vnc/xstartup file to run the proper windowmanager/desktop.. ie:  'gnome-session' in this case. :)
[12:36] <amanu> jim_p:to open a link ie is compulsary for me so i need to get it
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:36] <amanu> the link is a secure one aand wont open in any othet than ie
[12:36] <jim_p> Sweetandy, well you could help us by saying what mobo is in. then i will find its manual and... so on
[12:36] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  alternatively - you can set the machine to auto-login to gnome and always run the 'share the desktop' feature..  but thats not as safe I guess.
[12:36] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: same response
[12:36] <jim_p> amanu, oh ok then
[12:37] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i pasted that exactly as you typed it.. was that wrong?
[12:37] <amanu> i need to get ie in ubuntu
[12:37] <ackbahr> dr_willis: Precisely....
[12:37] <amanu> i downloaded it an after extraction i got a folder
[12:37] <jim_p> ackbahr, what is the main reason you want remote X?
[12:37] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  percisely what.. :) you can do it either way.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: hmm weird
[12:37] <amanu> and i double click rad me file if so is it installed? can i use it now?
[12:37] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: well thats typical for me LOL
[12:38] <ackbahr> jim_p: Be ready to do it seriously if I ever need to do it
[12:38] <jim_p> ackbahr, the -Y parameter will also load you the remote pcs apps and files
[12:38] <amanu> sorry its "read me"
[12:38] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  or you could do it both ways...  or you could set up  a vncservice to auto-spawn vncsessions that run gdm as needed.
[12:38] <calum> Thanks to katzian and ActionParsnip, I now have a webserver again :)
[12:38] <ackbahr> dr_willis: Ah, sorry, I meant the security thing.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: you running 64bit or 32bit linux?
[12:38] <jayde_drag0n> should be 32
[12:38] <jim_p> ackbahr, ssh parameter. but opening apps remotely is as slow as... a replay in tv!
[12:38] <ackbahr> dr_willis: But if I use this hidden gnome session, will it be a new one whenever I login?
[12:39] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  to be the most secure. use ssh, vncserver, and tunnle the vncsesson over ssh.. but that can make vnc rather sluggish. and you may not want to use gnome  for the desktop then.
[12:39] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  it dosent have to be. :) thats one thing i use vncserver for.. it keeps the session 'alive' and i can connect to it from different machines
[12:39] <ackbahr> dr_willis: Yes, I don't want/need to go as far as tunnelling VNC....
[12:39] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: .24 looks old shouldn't i be at 2.6.27-7-generic?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: you'll get the later kernel
[12:40] <ackbahr> dr_willis: Well, I precisely would like it to be the same session if I disconnect and get back again
[12:40] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: LOL "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[12:40] <AD7six> hi. how can I disable trackerd's automatic indexing - or should I just remove it?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: whats the outpput of: lsb_release -a
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: does it say hard / intrepid
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> *hardy
[12:41] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: intrepid
[12:41] <ackbahr> dr_willis: So I have a vncserver running, ssh access to the target machine and windows here (with realvnc viewer 4.1.2). What do I do now?
[12:41] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: but it does say "No LSB modules are available."
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: i dont know what that is
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: cd ~/; wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/linux-headers-lum-2.6.24-22-386_2.6.24-22.34_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./linux-headers-lum-2.6.24-22-386_2.6.24-22.34_i386.deb
[12:42] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: what what is? what the problem is? or LSB.. if it was LSD i could tell you.......
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: me too :D
[12:43] <calum> I am the only user of my machine and I want to be able to edit files directly on my webserver.  Do I have to do more than merely change the permissions on /var/www
[12:43] <calum> ?
[12:43] <FloodBot1> calum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <alandd> How do I log an ssh session?  What I mean is that I want all the content and command activity during the session to be logged at the ssh client computer.  Every search turns up security logs, not session logs.
[12:43] <calum> Sorry, FloodBot1, I did not do so intentionally.
[12:44] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m48368705
[12:45] <jayde_drag0n> i may have figured it out bbiab
[12:45] <AD7six> calum: is your webserver and my machine the same thing
[12:45] <samhassell> calum: what I do is edit /etc/apache2/sites_enabled/000-default and change DocumentRoot to /home/user/www
[12:46] <samhassell> calum: a sub dir under your home directory basically
[12:46] <calum> AD7six: It is the default webserver on ubuntu. I think that the answer to your question is yes :)
[12:46] <calum> However, I like samhassell's suggestion.
[12:47] <AD7six> do the sam as samhassell and probably change apache's user to be you too
[12:47] <samhassell> calum: i also change the apache user from www to 'sam'
[12:47] <samhassell> *www-data
[12:47] <calum> ty very much AD7six and samhassell :)
[12:48] <samhassell> np
[12:49] <askan> has no one a solution for my problem?
[12:49] <ubu3> askan : which one ?
[12:49] <askan> today i got the following message, when starting firefox: /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.4/firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64
[12:49] <samhassell> calum: you set the apache user in '/etc/apache2/envvars'
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> askan: whats the output of: file /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> wb jayde_drag0n
[12:50] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: no that didn't work
[12:50] <samhassell> AD7six: did you sort your issue?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/i386/linux-headers-386/download
[12:50] <calum> ty again, samhassell :)
[12:50] <ubu3> askan : try to desactivate all plugins and addons of firefox and start one by one to locate the problem
[12:51] <AD7six> samhassell: I just uninstalled it - I  don't use it and the initial indexing often freezes my machine - thanks for asking :)
[12:51] <askan> /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: symbolic link to `libxml2.so.2.6.32'
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: download your headers from a mirror and install the .deb file (you can rm the first one you downloaded)
[12:51] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: dependancy not satisfiable
[12:51] <askan> it isn't a problem firefox, synaptic eg. has the same problem
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> askan: ok what is the output of: file /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.32
[12:51] <samhassell> AD7six: :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: get the deb from one of those mirrors and install it
[12:52] <rafting> i have windows vista, i read on wikipedia that ndiswrapper doesnt work with it, true?
[12:52] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i did.. thats the error it gave me.. it won't let me install
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: hmm
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: im gonna try get you a guide for a 9550
[12:53] <askan> ActionParsnip, /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.32: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
[12:53] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: what dependancies to the linux header might i be missing or how can i check
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: whatever kernel you have, you need the headers for that version
[12:54] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: and how to i verify that info?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: i'd head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and reinstall the driver
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: dpkg -l | grep header
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: but the community guide should steer you right
[12:55] <askan> i googled for that, and it might have to do something with the zlib, but i reinstalled both libxml2 and zlib1g (if that is the ruight package for the zlib)
[12:55] <askan> no change :/
[12:56] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m6751fa8b   and they tend to talk above my head and not give directions
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> askan: you could try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox-3.0
[12:57] <icesword> ActionParsnip, hello
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok you have the 27-9 headers but a 24 kernel. if you press esc when grub offers it can you boot to the 27-9 kernel?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> icesword: yo yo yo
[12:58] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i don't know
[12:58] <saurabh_> my ip address,netmask,dns gateway gets deleted every time i restart my comp in ubuntu 8.10
[12:58] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: how do i update the kernel
[12:59] <saurabh_> can somone help
[12:59] <icesword> ActionParsnip, yes? what's up?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> icesword: just saying howdy
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: dist-upgrade should do it
[12:59] <icesword> ActionParsnip, yes, I am good, I see you are busy here, :p
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: can you pastebin you /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:59] <askan> ActionParsnip, still the same problem
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> icesword: jump in dude
[12:59] <dr_willis> I noticed the other day  when i update/upgraded.. it installed newer kernels.. but grub never did get updated properly to include them. Not sure what happened.
[13:00] <icesword> hehe
[13:00] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 the ipadress and dns gets deleted every time i restart my system
[13:00] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 the ipadress and dns gets deleted every time i restart my system
[13:00] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m4da0b799
[13:00] <icesword> no, dr_willis and you ActionParsnip and others many ppl are here
[13:00] <saurabh_> caN SOMONE help
[13:00] <lasivian> if I want to backup my ubuntu install what stops the command from backing up the /mnt/ folder of the device i'm backing up to?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: does the system move or does it always use the same connection all the time?
[13:01] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 the ipadress and dns gets deleted every time i restart my system
[13:01] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: and trying a dist upgrade did NOT install the new kernal.. so where do i get the deb file for the new kernel and make it go
[13:01] <saurabh_> ya
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: yeah, no 27 kernel in there
[13:01] <dr_willis> lasivian,  normally 'backup' tools have a list of  excluded  directories..
[13:01] <saurabh_> it goes to automaticdhcp
[13:01] <saurabh_> instead of manual
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: try: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.27-9-generic
[13:03] <saurabh_> it goes to automatic dhcp everytime it restarts
[13:03] <lasivian> dr_willis: ahh, i'm trying to use this: http://andri.dk/tech/linux/usb-backup
[13:03] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: O.O its already installed but my grub is wrong!
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: AAAAAHH, makes sense
[13:03] <samhassell> saurabh: how are you configuring the connection?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> !grub | jayde_drag0n
[13:04] <dr_willis> lasivian,  theres proberly otehr dirs you dont want to backup also.. some system dirs./ and /tmp/ and perhaps others
[13:04] <saurabh_> manual
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: that'll help
[13:04] <saurabh_> ip and dns are given
[13:04] <lasivian> and I changed the source directory to / , I think that's my problem
[13:04] <saurabh_> i put the entry and then it works
[13:04] <will__> what should I use to extract .rar
[13:04] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: i know how to edit it.. i know where the line goes.. i just don't know what to type there
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: can i see your /etc/network/interfaces file please
[13:04] <samhassell> saurabh: you could apt-get remove network-manager
[13:05] <samhassell> saurabh: unless you need it for other connections
[13:05] <loz> hello to all, could any one run me through with an instalation of a wifi card, or even tell me if i can have a ethernet card, and a wifi card in seperate ports?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: Im not proficient in grub, maybe someone else will help. You are booting to the OLD kernel and not the new intrepid one
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: you might not even need to mess with envy, but you wont know until you get to the new kernel
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: maybe dr_willis can help ;)
[13:05] <saurabh_> auto lo
[13:05] <saurabh_> iface lo inet loopback
[13:06] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: again over my head and no how to directions.. i just need to copy and paste.. AND it does not give me any current info as to what goes behind the #
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: use pastebin
[13:06] <askan> ActionParsnip, is there a command to reinstall all libraries on the system, as i suppose, the problem are some broken libraries (eg totem complains about missing pygtk)
[13:06] <will__> !extract
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: or is that it?
[13:06] <saurabh_> my /etc/network/interface content:auto lo
[13:06] <saurabh_> iface lo inet loopback
[13:06] <will__> what should I use to extract .rar anyone?
[13:06] <saurabh_> wat is pastebin
[13:06] <HeN> will__, unrar
[13:06] <samhassell> will__:: sudo apt-get install unrar
[13:07] <will__> cheers
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: you can manually configure it if you add lines to it to specify ip and subnet. here's mine: http://pastebin.com/fd7c002f
[13:07] <loz> has any one got a MSI Pc54G3 to work on the latest ubunutu distro?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !paste | saurabh_
[13:07] <samhassell> will__  once you install it, it will be picked up by the gui interface
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> loz: wassup?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: if you add lines similar to mine (but using your ip addressing) you will have static ip set at boot
[13:08] <Krishna141> Enter text here...Hi there
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: if you use that, no ubuntu app will be able to manage your lan
[13:08] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  i ended up moving/renaming my menu.lst and reruning 'sudo updte-grub' that rescanned/remade the grub menu.lst with the new kernels
[13:08] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: how can i reinstall grub without using the livecd since my ubuntu actually works.. i KNOW where my upgrade went wrong.. i kept telling the popups to leave things at their current version because i didn't know what it was doing
[13:08] <Krishna141> Hello there
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: read dr_willis stuff there
[13:08] <Krishna141> I am new to this forum, could someone kindly help /
[13:08] <Krishna141> ?
[13:08] <loz> ActionParsnip: i have just bought my self a MSI Wifi card, and i have checked the forums, but can't find any info that will help me to install it, i have got an ethernet card, that works, but i would like to get the wifi working, with this new card, any ideas
[13:09] <jayde_drag0n> ooohh i'll try that
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: im not grub friendly and messing it up will make your system not boot. if you rename you can use the livecd to roll back
[13:09] <bartmon> Hi! There was a new release of the nvidia restricted drivers in the last day... Can I see any changelog or release log anywhere?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: ty man
[13:09] <samhassell> Krishna141: Hi and welcome, please ask your question and someone will try to answer
[13:09] <dual> I'm working on a school project, and now I write about Ubuntu's security features. How is the firewall in Ubuntu, and how does it work?
[13:10] <saxwrk> Hi all. I'm thinking about building a new computer. Do anyone know if PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 is a graphic card I can use in Ubuntu 8.10?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> dual: look into iptables
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> dual: iptables runs on lots of distros
[13:10] <yao_ziyuan> how do i specify a command with an environment setting, e.g. "LC_ALL=zh_CN.UTF-8 civclient" in a GNOME Launcher?
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > dual
[13:10] <dual> ActionParsnip: Is Iptables enabled by default on Ubuntu
[13:10] <samhassell> dual: what AP said, also if you want Ubuntu specific check of 'ufw'
[13:10] <jayde_drag0n> dr_willis: i can't rename it.. that option is not there.. i am assuming because i can't open the file thingy as root
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> dual: also look into chmod and chown so you can detail file ownership and access rights
[13:10] <loz> ActionParsnip: i have just bought my self a MSI PC54G3 Wifi card, and i have checked the forums, but can't find any info that will help me to install it, i have got an ethernet card, that works, but i would like to get the wifi working, with this new card, any ideas
[13:11] <dr_willis> jayde_drag0n,  use the terminal.. its our friend...
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> dual: yes, just very little configured by default, you can add rules at cli or use a gui app like firestarter
[13:11] <jayde_drag0n> dr_willis: i can open it to edit it.. but if i save as.. it just makes another copy.. it just saves a second file and the original menu.lst is still there.. not renamed menuold.lst
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> loz: it it pci or usb?
[13:11] <dual> Thanks guys
[13:11] <smbuser> how can i d/l a html page with curl or wget and change all relative urls inside to absolute ones (that refer to the site itself) ?
[13:11] <loz> ActionParsnip: it is a PCI
[13:11] <dr_willis> jayde_drag0n,  sudo mv THISFILE THISFILE.original
[13:12] <jayde_drag0n> OH  nm duh i get it.. i may need a code from you tho
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> loz: run lspci, it will tell you what it is. The brand is irrelevant. we need to know what chip is on it
[13:12] <dr_willis> jayde_drag0n,  then   'sudo update-grub'
[13:12] <saxwrk> Hi all. I'm thinking about building a new computer. Anyone know if PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 is a graphic card I can use in Ubuntu 8.10? Maybe a page where I can check for compitable hardware? :)
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > saxwrk
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | saxwrk
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> saxwrk: well done for checking first. saves heartache later
[13:13] <jayde_drag0n> crap   /boot/ then what.. i erased my command and can't remember the location now
[13:13] <jayde_drag0n> nm
[13:13] <Jack_Sparrow> up arrow
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[13:13] <gaelfx> how can I get a UVC video device to work? Everytime I connect it, the syslog says the device failed to query
[13:13] <icha_cutte> hi
[13:14] <loz> ActionParsnip: i can't see if is installed, i presume that this must be it :01:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[13:14] <gavinlew1> hi, ive just changed my network card in my pc , and now udev is mapping eth0 to eth6 which is breaking the networking on bootup
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: run lspci or lsusb and it will tell you what it is, you can websearch from there
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> loz: ok its an rtl8185 chip
[13:15] <loz> ActionParsnip: ok, cool, is that a good thing, or a bad thing?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> loz: not sure, have a websearch
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> loz: http://www.willdaniels.co.uk/articles/10-howto/12-r8180-hardy
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> loz: looks like you need to compile the driver
[13:17] <gavinlew1> does intrepid still support /etc/iftab , as my machine does not have one
[13:18] <bakarat_> my touchpad "vertical scroll" seems to be set to a VERY narrow margin
[13:18] <bakarat_> if more then 2 mm of my finger is touching the pad, it doesn't seem to work
[13:18] <bakarat_> (it seemed to work great in 8.04)
[13:18] <bakarat_> did the update change this and...can i change it back?
[13:18] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: SUCESS!!! updating now.. we'll see if this works
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: UBER!
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: (thank dr_willis too ;))
[13:19]  * dr_willis takes no responsabilities for his actions or comments.. :)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> gavinlew1: try it is all i can suggest
[13:19] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: muahahaa my genuis abilities at following directions prevailed again!!
[13:19] <jayde_drag0n> dr_willis: you are teh awesoms
[13:19]  * dr_willis  gets out his EULA :)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> gavinlew1: if its no good, boot to failsafe and delete it
[13:19] <rascal> hai everybody i learnt  c , c++ in windows is there is anymethos to create uuntu application wid that any easy way for creating uutu aplication
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> rascal: sudo apt-get install build-essenial
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> rascal: gives you a c and c++ compiler
[13:20] <rascal> what i cant understand
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> !eclipse > rascal
[13:22] <tarelerulz> I put my home on different partition and I am using gparted to free up some space on other partition a lot 300 gb .  How would I add that to my home partition .  I don't want to lose my home  partition just want to add the  300gb space to it
[13:22] <icha_cutte> semarang
[13:22] <gavinlew1> actionparsnip: 8.10 does not use iftab, you have to remove 70-persistent-net.rules under /etc/udev/rules.d :)
[13:22] <gavinlew1> now to rackmount my machine :)
[13:23] <ackbahr> dr_willis: Tried the vncserver trick you explained a while earlier, but it wouldn't work!
[13:23] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip and dr_willis  consider yourselves HUGGED
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> yay
[13:23] <ndut> n_dut
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: gfx all nice too?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[13:24] <jayde_drag0n> compiz enabled.. my wobbly windows are back  and everything is pretty again!!!
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: ok, then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove envyng*
[13:24] <yewanth> ?
[13:24] <jayde_drag0n> ActionParsnip: it won't undo anything?
[13:25] <yewanth> 中文？
[13:25] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  clarify exactly what you did and what dident work.. vncserver has some things to watch out for.
[13:25] <yewanth> english？
[13:25] <gaelfx> cn! | yewanth
[13:25] <saxwrk> !HD4850
[13:25] <whynot> hi everyone.  I need some help.  The following is my question.  Can I reduce the size of swap partition that was already fixed?
[13:25] <gaelfx> cn! | yewanth
[13:25] <yewanth> ok
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> jayde_drag0n: actually, lets be specific: sudo apt-get --purge remove envyng-gtk
[13:26] <whynot> My ubuntu was installed on 8Gb and the size of swap partition is 2Gb.  It's too big.
[13:26] <yewanth> want to change?
[13:26] <whynot> yep
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> saxwrk: was it not in the HCL?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> whynot: depends if your use overflows 8Gb RAM
[13:27] <yewanth> to use partition software
[13:27] <whynot> Without changing nor affecting anything.  Only the size of swap partition.
[13:27] <saxwrk> ActionParsnip: Not that I could see atleast.
[13:27] <whynot> I have 512mb ram.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> saxwrk: then its enough
[13:27] <yewanth> set to 512 is ok
[13:27] <whynot> what about 1Gb of swap partition?  Is it still too much?
[13:28] <saxwrk> ActionParsnip: I dont understand. What did you say now?
[13:28] <JuJuBee> How do I figure out which tty my onboard serial port is configured as?
[13:28] <ackbahr> dr_willis: I tried the command "sudo vncviewer XXX" (with my login name), and it gives me a list of the options as if I had given no parameters!
[13:28] <yewanth> ram>512 ,you shoud set it 512
[13:29] <whynot> Should?   Above 512 is ok, isn't it?
[13:29] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  Im not sure what you are douing exactly.. but you do not run 'vncserver' or 'vncviewer' as root with sudo.
[13:29] <yewanth> yes
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> saxwrk: if you never exceed 8Gb RAM then you could get away with no swap, but i'd have 1 just in case
[13:30] <Eldivo> Hello. I installed WoW last night. But got a problem, when I start WoW with wine Wow.exe -opengl it works fine, but I can't see my mouse. Anyone got some tips for that?
[13:30] <yewanth> (-.-||)
[13:30] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  i ssh to remote box,  as a user. run 'vncserver' then on the local box.. use 'vncviewer ip.of.remote.box:##  '
[13:30] <whynot> Can you give me some tip?  For example, the name of utilities which enables me to resize the swap partition.
[13:30] <ackbahr> dr_willis: What's dangerous about it?
[13:30] <saxwrk> ActionParsnip: I have never asked about swap. I asked about PowerColor Radeon HD 4850 is supported in ubuntu 8.10
[13:30] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  You dont need to use sudo at all for this..  theres no reason to use sudo
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> saxwrk: sorry, getting crossed lines in my head
[13:30] <JuJuBee> I'm trying to use mincom to connect to a Cisco switch via console.  Can't figure out which serial port to use on computer.
[13:30] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  plus if you use sudo - then it will look int he root users .vnc/ dir for settings..  and may cause issues..
[13:30] <saxwrk> ActionParsnip: No problem. You dont happen to know anything about my question? :)
[13:31] <ackbahr> dr_willis: "Error: Can't open display: " is what I get
[13:31] <overrider> hi, can someone name the best anti-spam addition to my offlineimap/getmail procmail mutt setup? how about bogofilter?
[13:31] <ackbahr> But I don't have an xstartup file in ~/.vnc now....
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !ati | saxwrk
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> saxwrk: see if its mentioned in there
[13:32] <dr_willis> ackbahr,   I imagine you are doing somthing fundamentally wrong then.. Or trying to outsmart things..    the furst time your user runs vncserver, it makes a .vnc/xstartup  HOWEVER.. the initial xstartup will be wrong.. kill the vncserver with 'vncserver --kill :1' and edit the xstartup file, and  make it run somthing other then twm. Is what i normally do.
[13:33] <kenroy> hello
[13:33] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  be carefull not to run/start up several vncservers by mistake..  kill them as needed  with the command i showed above
[13:33] <yao_ziyuan> i note that gksu and sudo can give me root access for  a while after i enter root password once. i wonder what if a virus takes advantage of this password-free window?
[13:33] <dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  very unlikely to happen.
[13:33] <kenroy> do any of you guys use Ubuntu form software developement (mainly linux systems programming) ?
[13:34] <dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  if you want to bge very paranoud you can disable that timeout  feature on rembering the sudo password.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: i used to do that, then figured I could live with it for the sake of ease
[13:35] <ackbahr> dr_willis: "xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/XXX/.Xauthority" when I try vncviewer --kill :1
[13:35] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  i dont see much point in doing it.
[13:35] <yao_ziyuan> if a virus checks for root-free opportunities every 10 seconds,
[13:36] <dr_willis> ackbahr,  reread what i said.....           its vncserver --kill :1      NOT vncviewer
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: i used to be mega security concious, ive laxed off slowly and had no issues so ive stayed at an ok level
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> *password-free
[13:36] <yao_ziyuan> i mean, with password-free periods, it's like there is no root password at all
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> yao_ziyuan It would require that the virus actually would affect ubuntu.. But you can kill the sudo after you use it if it is that much of a concern
[13:37] <dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,   if you got a virus runnign on yoru system  allready - you are allready infected.
[13:37] <ardchoille> yao_ziyuan: if you have a virus running then you have more to worry about (keylogger sniffing for, social security number, credit card number, etc) than the root password.
[13:37] <dr_willis> Theres Security Paranoid.. then theres "TinFoil Hat Paranoid" :)
[13:37] <ardchoille> dr_willis: :)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: oh it was 2 tinfoil hats sat under a corrugated sheet leant up against the wall
[13:39] <ndut> hi
[13:40] <Dabbu> my laptop webcam is detected in 8.10,i can see it in vlc but cheese is not able to detect it....any help?
[13:41] <yao_ziyuan> i really think password-free periods are unsafe.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | Dabbu
[13:41] <bullium> can anyone point me to a good tut. or howto on making a usb hard drive assign the same name each time in ubuntu 8.04?
[13:41] <kenroy> for someone interested in learning  sytems system programming do it matter what linux distro they use ?
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> yao_ziyuan Please avoid the discuaaion, we understand your concern and we told you there is a way around it for the people that want to kill that sudo session.. It really isnt an issue.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> kenroy: imho, not really
[13:42] <dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  the sudo 'timeout' has literally dozens if not hunderes of forum threads on various security sites..  disable it if you want.. or not...
[13:42] <kieko> anyone know whether Evernote works in LInux?
[13:42] <yao_ziyuan> 有一个问题很疑惑
[13:42] <SOURdiesel> kenroy: if you're looking to learn about linux, look into gentoo.
[13:42] <dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  from what ive read.. its not an issue.
[13:42] <yao_ziyuan> wrong channel
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> SOURdiesel Stop trolling
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !info evernote
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> dr_willis: how?
[13:43] <kenroy> ok
[13:43] <SOURdiesel> Jack_Sparrow: i don't use drugs.
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> yao_ziyuan man sudo in a term
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> livindaylight: http://abbysays.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/how-to-install-evernote-30-on-ubuntu/
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> livindaylight: you need wine
[13:44] <dr_willis> yao_ziyuan,  how what?  Go do some googling/check the various security sites/forums - they  discuss the whole sudo 'timeout'  security thing from several angles..    If you mean how to disable the timeout.. Id have to google that also.. or check the sudo man pages/docs
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[13:44] <livindaylight> ActionParsnip, wine-yuck :/
[13:44] <dr_willis> wine >hic<
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> livindaylight: well you wanna run a windows app, so you need wine
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> livindaylight: you could find a native app that does the same thing
[13:45] <livindaylight> ActionParsnip, but thx... for the link anyhow... I was just curious because FF has an add-on for Evernote but i know Evernote is developed for mac and windows only; hence iwas confused
[13:45] <danea> hi
[13:46] <naeo> is there some service in ubuntu wich will hijack ir ports? I had a working setup of lirc, but now it's not working anymore.. the directional keys (up\down\left\right) seems to translate to their respective keyboard buttons - but I don't want that. any ideas?
[13:46] <yao_ziyuan> i noted something called "terminal device",
[13:46] <yao_ziyuan> which i think is the keyboard.
[13:46] <SlimeyPete> terminal device usually means a tty
[13:47] <SlimeyPete> i.e. an input/output device which might be physically represented as a screen and keyboard, or as a terminal emulator such as putty
[13:47] <dr_willis> I have several serial terminals. :)
[13:47] <yao_ziyuan> what the hell is the purpose of root password if it can be waived in certain periods
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yao_ziyuan STOP you have your answer
[13:47] <yao_ziyuan> i don't
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> yao_ziyuan you can turn it off.. end of story
[13:48] <Toznoshio> Hi, how can I start OpenOffice or Adobe Reader in iconized mode (minimized to the notification area) ?
[13:48] <dr_willis> disable it if you dont like it.. read the various forum threads on   why most people dont consider it a security issue.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Toznoshio: install alltray
[13:48] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[13:48] <livindaylight> ActionParsnip, is there anything you know of in Linux that does it as well as Evernote?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Toznoshio: then run: alltray <appname>
[13:48] <Toznoshio> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll give that a try
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> livindaylight: whats it do?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Toznoshio: its great with thunderbird
[13:49] <amanap> hi
[13:49] <livindaylight> ActionParsnip, its an awesome note taker, tabs everything... urls audio video
[13:49] <snek> question: is it possible to run a 2.4.x kernel with ubuntu (for, lets say, a really old system)?
[13:50] <dr_willis> snek,  i would doubt it.
[13:50] <SlimeyPete> snek: if the system's that old then Ubuntu probably isn't the right distro to choose
[13:50] <mcknut> I'm trying to install ubuntu with a kickstart file, in grub I'm trying F6 (More options), remove the -- and add ks=http..., nothing is happening different, am I doing it wrong?
[13:50] <icesword> bye, all, have a nice day
[13:50] <snek> SlimeyPete: depends how you install it.. starting with a server install and building up from there with very lite apps would work quite well.. was just curious about the kernel
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> snek what are the specs?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> snek: you can run any kernel, newer apps might not like it
[13:51] <FishyJap> Hey I'm pretty new to ubuntu and I'm having trouble getting video out to a TV to be used as a second display. would anyone be willing to help me out?
[13:51] <snek> Jack_Sparrow: it's for a laptop i got for free from a friend.. 500mhz with 256MB lol.. just use it for surfing on the couch ;)
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> snek That will run ubuntu fine as long as you minimize how much ram is shared with video
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> snek Xubuntu would be my choice
[13:52] <snek> Jack_Sparrow: i currently run debian lenny with lxde/openbox on it
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> snek: for old systems use xubuntu / fluxbox instead of metacity
[13:53] <snek> ActionParsnip: yeah i don't intend to run anything gnome/kde on it hehe..
[13:53] <recon69> got a question, what exactly is the wmaster0 interface for. what it do?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> snek: you could even use gentoo to get super minimal
[13:54] <FishyJap> anyone willing to help me out?
[13:54] <jim_p> recon69, it is needed from network manager i think for SOME network cards
[13:54] <samhassell> livindaylight: have you played with notecase? http://notecase.sourceforge.net/
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> FishyJap: not something ive done myself
[13:54] <snek> ActionParsnip: yeah was trying that too but can't boot from CD or USB.. going from Debian->Ubuntu is fairly simple though, considering Debian has installation floppies :)
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> FishyJap: have you installed video drivers?
[13:55] <a1len> Is there a program to do i01 i00 mds > iso?
[13:55] <lasivian> anyone good with scripting want to help me add an exception to a backup script? :)]
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> a1len: mkisofs maybe
[13:55] <FishyJap> ActionParsnip: yeah
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> lasivian Please /j #bash
[13:55] <a1len> Okay, I'll read the man. Thanks.
[13:55] <jim_p> a1len, deamon tools in windows. no linux app can read mds
[13:55] <lasivian> Jack: thanks
[13:55] <livindaylight> samhassell, nope, not heard of it... will take a look... its nice to have cross-platform applications though...  helps with integration. I will ask, although i'm sure they've been asked already a million times, whether they're considering adding the Linux platform to their mac and windows development of their application
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> FishyJap: you may need to enable composite if you are using svideo
[13:56] <__Zombie__> anyone got any ideas why my T61 w/8.10 won't suspend?
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lasivian Is there a particular folder you want to exclude
[13:56] <a1len> jim_p: Really? So I'd have to do deamon in wine, huh?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> __Zombie__: suspend is a PITA
[13:56] <FishyJap> ActionParsnip: how would I go about doing that?
[13:56] <__Zombie__> It worked find until I reloaded with a clean 8.10 install
[13:56] <GFree> snek: You shouldn't be reusing old hardware. You should have bought a NEW laptop, even for just surfing. It's people like you who holds back the progression of technology
[13:56] <__Zombie__> err..um...fine...
[13:56] <GFree> (joking)
[13:56] <samhassell> livindaylight: you'd need the pro version for images anyway
[13:56] <snek> GFree: I have 3 other machines at home.. don't talk to me about upgrading lol
[13:56] <recon69> ﻿jim_p: well, need a bit more info, seem to have a https ﻿problem  that stops secure connections working that can cause a kernal panic. wmaster0 seem to be using a ipv6 address and might be related
[13:56] <GFree> hence the joking bit. :)
[13:56] <samhassell> livindaylight: cant hurt to ask :)
[13:57] <jim_p> a1len, i would go for a native window installation, even if it means vbox +shared folders. i dont think linux will allow wine to make an extra cdrom!
[13:57] <__Zombie__> ActionParsnip, I know...but it worked fine on 8.10 until I did a clean reload (as opposed to an upgrade)
[13:57] <jim_p> recon69, disable ipv6 then
[13:57] <snek> GFree: i probably have nicer hardware than most users here hehehe
[13:57] <__Zombie__> Also, I have found lots of info on failing to RESUME, but nothing on failing to suspend
[13:57] <mri> hi
[13:58] <jim_p> hi mri
[13:58] <a1len> jim_p: What about a i01? That seems to be the big file... the one with all the stuff I want
[13:58] <mri> ti kaneis?
[13:58] <ompaul> !gr | mr-rich
[13:58] <elad`> How do I search for the man page for the C function time, rather than the bash command (or something?) time?
[13:58] <ompaul> !gr | mri
[13:59] <jim_p> a1len, what is that thing? some winrar spanned file?
[13:59] <ompaul> mr-rich, bad tab
[13:59] <jim_p> mri, good :P
[13:59] <snek> bbl, gonna try and install unbuntu on my work iMac :D
[13:59] <lasivian> jack_sparrow: /mnt/###
[13:59] <mri> ti?
[13:59] <a1len> jim_p: Yeah. It's actually i00
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lasivian one sec
[13:59] <tarelerulz> I made  different partition for my home and   How much space does the install cd need if I wanted to upgrade/reinstall Ubuntu .  How big doe the partition with all the os files need to be for reinstalling
[13:59] <jim_p> snek, does that mac have an intel cpu?
[13:59] <lasivian> jack_sparrow: thanks
[13:59] <jrib> elad`: man -a time.  Though you probably just want man 2 time
[14:00] <jim_p> a1len, well extract it then!
[14:00] <elad`> jrib, could you explain that syntax, so I know how to generalize it for the next time I need something similar? What's the -a for? What's the 2 for?
[14:00] <jim_p> a1len, you are 100% sure its a RAR file? rar spanned files are like r00 r01 r02 and so on
[14:01] <jim_p> mri, please look at my pm
[14:01] <elad`> By the way, -a didn't work, but 2 did.
[14:01] <a1len> jim_p: Can't... Oh, I thought you meant did I get it from a rar.. lol
[14:01] <jrib> elad`: man man.  It will explain that man pages are broken up into sections.  2 is system calls.  -a just goes through all the man pages that man finds about time
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lasivian Look here at my notes for a sec..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/82463/
[14:01] <a1len> jim_p: But I have a small MDS too, so I wonder if that polls from the big 3G i00 file to make the iso
[14:01] <elad`> Why didn't -a work, then?
[14:01] <a1len> I'll read...
[14:01] <jrib> elad`: -a does work, it cycles through all of the time man pages.  You asked "how to search"
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> lasivian Paste your backup command for me when you get a chance
[14:02] <jim_p> a1len, what windows app opens these types?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> FishyJap: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/246
[14:02] <recon69> ok, so how do you disable ipv6 ?
[14:02] <jim_p> recon69, let me look it up a sec
[14:03] <elad`> jrib, how do I cycle?
[14:03] <jrib> elad`: hit q, then enter
[14:03] <a1len> jim_p: I have no idea. I'll read up on it more. I've never heard of it before, so I figured it was a Linux thing that I haven't learned yet XD
[14:03] <olskolirc> I can't get on efnet!
[14:03] <lasivian> jack: I believe it's this: ${RSYNC} -rlt $SRC_DIR /mnt/${1}/usb-backup
[14:03] <FishyJap> ActionParsnip: awesome thank you
[14:03] <lasivian> jack: i'm a newbieif you couldn't tell :)
[14:03] <elad`> Great. Thanks.
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lasivian cant help you there.
[14:03] <jim_p> a1len, its a dvdshrink spanned file. dvd shrink does run on wine. give it a try
[14:04] <noobuntu93> so...anyone got time to help a nub out real quick?
[14:04] <jrib> !ask | noobuntu93
[14:04] <jim_p> noobuntu93, hit it
[14:04] <jim_p> recon69, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[14:04] <a1len> jim_p: Cool! Thanks. I'll check it out XD
[14:04] <jim_p> you are welcome
[14:04] <Pnux> hello, do i need cupsys if i dont have a printer (hardware)
[14:04] <Pnux> ?
[14:04] <lasivian> jack: aye, np. Thanks
[14:05] <jim_p> Pnux, no, but wine mat need it
[14:05] <jim_p> *may
[14:05] <Pnux> ok thanks jim_p
[14:05] <Pnux> i dont have wine eiter
[14:05] <dmx> hay, i have a prob with Kubuntu,, can i ask here?  i know this is ubuntu's Irc but ?
[14:05] <dmx> sorry my english ..
[14:05] <jim_p> Pnux, well try removing it and take a close look to what it may remove as well
[14:05] <hateball> !kubuntu  | dmx
[14:05] <jim_p> dmx, hit it!
[14:05] <noobuntu93> i'm having issues with networking (like everyone does apparently) but i've enabled the restricted driver support, i've checked that the drivers from the kernel are loading, and nothing helps. why does it say UNCLAIMED on my wireless and DISABLED on my lan?
[14:06] <Pnux> yea jim_p, i musing synaptic
[14:06] <Pnux> im using*
[14:06] <rascal> i have installed compiz manager
[14:06] <rascal>  i added cube deformation effect
[14:06] <rascal>  ibut how to use it
[14:06] <jim_p> noobuntu93, remove network manager and install wicd. (classic advice from me)
[14:06] <dmx> the prob is, i cannot not realy connect to wireless networks
[14:06] <jim_p> Pnux, ok then, do as i said
[14:06] <Pnux> k thanks jim_p
[14:07] <jim_p> dmx, wicd.sourceforge.net/downloads
[14:07] <dmx> i can find em and se em an click connect... but no internet :(
[14:07] <noobuntu93> i'm connected through lan as we speak...yet it says my card is disabled under my lshw -C output
[14:07] <jim_p> dmx, listen to me! network manager is the faulty thing there!
[14:07] <jim_p> dmx, pm me if you need help
[14:08] <dmx> okay, thx dude :)
[14:08] <dmx> hehe i am a  n00b to linux but one place i need to start  :P
[14:08] <Pnux> jim_p omg.. it has to remove more than 50 packages :s
[14:08] <jim_p> dmx, its http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php the link i said above
[14:08] <jim_p> Pnux, name a few
[14:09] <dmx> ill try :) thx
[14:09] <Pnux> amarok, amule, audacius
[14:09] <jim_p> Pnux, audacious?!!?!??!?!
[14:09] <Pnux> yea
[14:09] <jim_p> Pnux, wait a sec
[14:10] <Pnux> gedit, firefox, gnubik
[14:10] <jim_p> Pnux, what is the name of the package you searched for removal?
[14:10] <Pnux> i tried with libcupsys2
[14:11] <jim_p> Pnux, try another package name
[14:11] <jim_p> Pnux, i would go with cups-common
[14:12] <Pnux> jim_p, scary.. a few packages and ubuntu-desktop
[14:12]  * lasivian needs to find a simple full-drive incremental backup solution
[14:12] <jim_p> Pnux, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. it can be safely removed
[14:12] <Pnux> oh
[14:13] <Pnux> jim_p, do i have to re instal it after removing?
[14:13] <jim_p> Pnux, no. meta package = a package-shortcut of more packages
[14:13] <dmx> omg?
[14:13] <jim_p> dmx, ???
[14:13] <dmx> There is no wicd for kubuntu ? :S
[14:14] <dmx> a cannot se it..
[14:14] <Pnux> ok jim_p, thanks
[14:14] <amanap_> hi.... if i have the path of some directory in ubuntu, and i want to find out the name of all its children, which libreries or system calls i should use....
[14:14] <jim_p> dmx, apps are desktop enviroment irrelevant. you can have kde apps in gnome and gnome apps in kde and so on
[14:15] <jim_p> dmx, if you really hate gnome apps, i can find you a kde one!
[14:15] <jim_p> dmx, the repo for wicd is the same
[14:15] <dmx> but im really n00b to linux, sorry...
[14:15] <jim_p> dmx, wait a sex
[14:15] <jim_p> ooops
[14:15] <jim_p> *sec
[14:15] <dmx> okeey:P
[14:15] <Pnux> lol, nice one jim_p
[14:16] <dmx> "sex" is a danish word :P for porn hehe :P
[14:16]  * dmx is from dk, so my english sucks.. ;)
[14:16] <jim_p> sex is universal i think... like tomato.
[14:16] <dmx> oh hehe :P
[14:16] <jaufi> anyone who knows a good client for irc?
[14:16] <Pnux> with some variants
[14:16] <chfwiggum> jaufi: irssi
[14:17] <dmx> jaufi: xchat
[14:17] <Crooper> xchat
[14:17] <jaufi> actually i'm using xchat right now
[14:17] <ackbahr> So long folks!
[14:17] <dmx> cooper; try again:P haha
[14:17] <Pnux> jaufi, if you like tunning your client with user made commands and stuff like that, use kvirc
[14:17] <Dabbu> ekiga and vlc detect my laptop webcam but not by other sofwares like cheese any help ?
[14:17] <Crooper> irssi is good too especially for minimal installs
[14:17] <jaufi> ah okay, what about BitchX?
[14:17] <Crooper> i like xchat better
[14:18] <jim_p> guys... do you have wlassistant in your available packages?
[14:18] <LjL> !good > jaufi    (jaufi, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:18] <LjL> jaufi: bitchx has been unsupported for ages.
[14:18] <Pnux> jim_p yea i do
[14:18] <jaufi> maybe i should stick with xchat then :)
[14:18] <ari_stress> hi hi
[14:19] <jim_p> Pnux, i cant find it in mine!
[14:19] <Pnux> jaufi, you can also use pidgin, thats what im using
[14:19] <Crooper> xchat is very customizable
[14:19] <dmx> jim_p: PM
[14:19] <samhassell> +1 xchat
[14:19] <Pnux> jim_p  Homepage: http://wlassistant.sourceforge.net/
[14:19] <jim_p> dmx, pm me if thats what you mean
[14:19] <jaufi> Pnux > i didn't even know that though i use pidgin for IM
[14:20] <jim_p> Pnux, it seems wlassistant was last seen in hardy
[14:20] <dmx> ill do :P
[14:20] <Pnux> yea i have HH
[14:20] <Crooper> you can do irc thru pidgin too jaufi
[14:21] <Paolo> hi
[14:21] <LjL> i'm looking for a "translator's" text editor, i.e. one that lets me have a split view of two documents and keep them in sync (scoll together and easily keep a line-to-line correspondence). preferably for KDE 3, but GTK will do.
[14:21] <Pnux> jim_p i use pdgin coz its not bothering me with people getting online, and with one client i have all the IM i use
[14:21] <Paolo> someone know if the geforce 9500gt is compatible with ubuntu 8.04 e 8.10 (32 and 64 bit)?
[14:21] <Crooper> pidgin is a handy tool
[14:21] <Pnux> indeed Crooper
[14:22] <jim_p> Pnux, the only think i cant get used to is pidgin for irc! i close the tab and i leave the channel without wanting to
[14:22] <jim_p> *thing
[14:22] <Pnux> how do you close the tab by mistake jim_p?
[14:22]  * jrib refrains from suggesting vim to LjL
[14:22] <LjL> jrib: thank you
[14:22] <Crooper> you should just type '/away' jim_p
[14:23] <LjL> jrib: but no seriously if vim can do that, i might give it a try, though not if i have to work two hours to just understand how to make it do it...
[14:23] <Pnux> what would come handy in pidgin for irc, i clicking on a name on the list of people in a channel, and automatically fill '<that person's name>: '
[14:23] <Slart> Paolo: check the nvidia site for info on what version of their driver supports which cards.. then compare to what driver ubuntu offers
[14:23] <|GaiJin|> anyone else having problems using skype under pulseaudio??
[14:23] <amanulla> hii
[14:24] <slestak> |GaiJin|: works for me (the little bit I have used it)
[14:24] <Slart> |GaiJin|: skype doesn't use pulseaudio so you've got a skype with alsa problem
[14:24] <Paolo> Slart: ok, tanks
[14:24] <dimebar> LjL: not sure if it will allow you to scroll two documents in sync (easily)
[14:25] <|GaiJin|> i know i have.... had the same problem with linuxmint... but the package skype-static-oss helped me there...
[14:25] <|GaiJin|> though i cant fing it in respitory
[14:25] <slestak> i have uninstalled trackerd with synaptic, but apt wants to reinstall it.  how can i tell apt that it is not to be reinstalled?
[14:25] <jrib> LjL: you should be able to use a split window and set scrollbind
[14:26] <Pnux> k, im back t work, thanks for the help jim_p-lunch
[14:26] <dimebar> jrib: wow didn't know about scrollbind; thanks
[14:27] <jrib> LjL: :he :vsplit  and  :he 'scrollbind
[14:27] <phazzer> anyone got ubuntu on their N770?
[14:27] <LjL> jrib: ugh, vsplit gives me E319: Sorry, the command is not available in this version
[14:28] <jrib> LjL: install vim-gnome, only vim-tiny is installed by default
[14:28] <LjL> jrib: wait, vim-gnome...? what sort of monster is that? :P
[14:28] <phazzer> !list
[14:28] <phazzer> !list
[14:28] <jrib> LjL: you have other choices, but no vim-kde :)
[14:28] <phazzer> !help
[14:29] <dimebar> would vim-common be enough?
[14:29] <igors> hi all..how can i see the boot messages during boot? not only the loading bar and ubuntu logo?
[14:29] <LjL> jrib: will vim or vim-nox do? (what's the difference, even?)
[14:30] <mohbana> why are there so versions of GCC on the rpeo
[14:30] <Crooper> igors i just hit the 'Esc' key during bootup and it works for me
[14:30] <mohbana> repo?
[14:30] <recon69> why would i get "sudo: unable to resolve host mec-desktop" message when i use sudo?
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> igors remove quiet and splash from the boot line
[14:30] <jrib> LjL: Those will do.  I don't know the difference between vim and vim-gtk for example, but vim-nox won't give you any gui
[14:31] <elvan121> hello
[14:31] <igors> thanks
[14:31] <jrib> LjL: oh, 'vim' has no gui either.  weird
[14:31] <LjL> jrib: yeah indeed
[14:31] <elvan121> hello
[14:32] <LjL> jrib: also, installing vim or vim-nox results in the exact same disk usage, even weirder
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> elvan121 Hello..  Please fel free to ask your ubuntu support question
[14:32] <elmnas> can someone help me does someone a  program like vlc which can use subtitles ?
[14:32] <elvan121> if so
[14:32] <elvan121> so
[14:32] <LjL> elmnas, VLC *can* use subtitles
[14:32] <elvan121> if i have a dell latitude d630
[14:32] <elmnas> I use it
[14:33] <elmnas> but its not in sync
[14:33] <elmnas> ..
[14:33] <elvan121> and i'm unable to activate the cube
[14:33] <ardchoille> jrib: I was going to remove vim-tiny and replace it with vim-gnome but removal wants to remove ubuntu-minimal also. Is that safe?
[14:33] <LjL> elmnas: not in sync?
[14:33] <elvan121> what i have to do???
[14:33] <tarelerulz> I have 500 gb hard drive and I 10 gb for system files and the rest I am trying to make a home partition.   I  pushed the extened  cover the space up to 300gb .   How would I make home in the extened take up the unallocated space now in the extended ?
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> elvan121 Do you get any effects?>
[14:33] <elmnas> the subtitle doesnt match the movie in same tempo
[14:33] <Crooper> xine uses subtitles
[14:33] <LjL> ardchoille: not when upgrading, and i think i'd call that a bug
[14:33] <igors> Jack_Sparrow, i remember in older versions of ubuntu i could see the splash (ubuntu logo and loadin bar) and the messages below..is it possible?
[14:33] <elmnas> ok
[14:33] <elvan121> yep
[14:33] <elvan121> i've also tried the compiz effect manager
[14:33] <ardchoille> LjL: so ubuntu-minimal needs to be installed if I decide to upgrade later?
[14:34] <elvan121> if  i'll tick the cube
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> elvan121 Install ccsm  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager Next go to system...pref..advanced desktop effects....  On the first page  put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top...  click on desktop size  and set them to 4, 1 and 1  top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
[14:34] <LjL> elmnas: that might be the subtitles file's fault, anyway there should be adjustment sliders to fix that
[14:34] <elmnas> no it works in windows xp
[14:34] <elmnas> but not in ubuntu..
[14:34] <LjL> ardchoille: well, the automatic updater should, i think, re-install it for you, but yes i would reinstall it personally
[14:34] <elmnas> umm
[14:34] <ardchoille> LjL: ah, thanks
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > elmnas
[14:35] <jrib> ardchoille: you can leave both, just use update-alternatives
[14:35] <jrib> vim-tiny is, well tiny, anyway
[14:36] <elmnas> LjL hmm why isnt it in sync?
[14:37] <LjL> elmnas: i don't know, but i know how to fix it - http://www.fr.videolan.org/doc/play-howto/en/ch03.html#id306989
[14:38] <elmnas> ok
[14:38] <elmnas> ty
[14:38] <elvan121> there is any methode to restore all the settings's compiz
[14:38] <elvan121> ?
[14:38] <elvan121> there is any methode to restore all the settings's compiz??
[14:38] <ensonic> hej, oprofile is broken on 8.10 and noboday seems to care in bugs.launchpad.net, can anyone help to bring this to attention?
[14:39] <snek> d0h, anybody know if an IntelMac supports ubuntu x64?
[14:40] <AndyB> I have tried installing ubuntu 4 times now, every time i install i get "kernel panic-not syncing VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)", before each install i have redownloaded, reburned, and reinstalled. So obviously im doing something wrong? Anybody have any advice?
[14:40] <snek> AndyB: are you using EXT3 as filesystem?
[14:40] <AndyB> snek, yes it says that before the above error, filesystem: ext3
[14:41] <snek> AndyB: ok, then I am not sure what the problem could be, maybe someone else can help you
[14:41] <AndyB> snek, Ok thanks :)
[14:41] <LjL> jrib: gnnnnnn ok thanks for the suggestion, it's probably what i was looking for, but i'll still refrain from employing it in order to avoid pieces of keyboard flying in the room >:
[14:41] <jim_p> snek, does that mac have an intel cpu?
[14:42] <snek> jim_p: yes, it's approx a year old.. 21" iMac with 3GB ram, running Leopard at the moment.. I installed reFit but it doesn't seem to do anything when I select the CD
[14:42] <recon69> why would i get "sudo: unable to resolve host mec-desktop" every-time i use sudo?
[14:42] <AndyB> brb have an idea
[14:42] <jim_p> snek, you will need a distro for PPC cpu architecture then
[14:43] <Slart> recon69: check the file /etc/hostname .. see if there are any domain stuff there
[14:43] <mthe> at 1 tr old snek r u sure its pcc?
[14:43] <jim_p> snek, ubuntu 7.10 was the last ubuntu for ppc
[14:43] <Paolo> by
[14:43] <kennethgt> hi to all
[14:43] <Paolo> bye
[14:43] <snek> jim_p: no it's an intel..
[14:44] <jim_p> oh ok snek
[14:44] <Slart> recon69: ie.. if it says mec-desktop.local remove the ".local"
[14:44] <snek> my first question said it was an intelmac ;)
[14:44] <ardchoille> jrib: ah, yeah, keep forgetting about update alternatives
[14:44] <kennethgt> i have a problem with upstart, where i change the runlevel???
[14:44] <__loverboy__>  in ubuntu, if i have the path of a directory, can anybody please tell me how to find the name of the children????
[14:44] <lasivian_> how can I add an exclusion to rsync
[14:45] <jrib> LjL: one day you will realize the error of your ways
[14:45] <jim_p> __loverboy__, ls ?
[14:45] <jrib> __loverboy__: 'find'
[14:45] <LjL> jrib: when i do i'll write a 10000 words essay about it using nano
[14:46] <noobuntu93> anyone mind looking at my lshw output and telling me how to fix it?
[14:46] <noobuntu93> i installed wicd...that didn't help any
[14:47] <wipewindows> df
[14:47] <__loverboy__> hey him
[14:47] <mthe> LjL: it isn't as bad as you might think :p
[14:47] <__loverboy__> i have to find in a program
[14:47] <jim_p> noobuntu93, HOW did you install wicd? downloaded the .deb and double click?
[14:47] <mthe> just use some very basic html.. ;)
[14:48] <noobuntu93> sudo apt-get install wicd
[14:48] <noobuntu93> after enabling the repository
[14:48] <jim_p> noobuntu93, did it remove network manager?
[14:48] <noobuntu93> yes
[14:48] <noobuntu93> wicd is working fine
[14:48] <noobuntu93> but it didn't re-enable my stuff
[14:48] <noobuntu93> can i pm you my lshw output?
[14:48] <kennethgt> i have a problem with upstart, where i change the runlevel???
[14:48] <jim_p> noobuntu93, in preferences of wicd did you set wlan0 or wmaster0?
[14:49] <noobuntu93> neither?
[14:49] <jrib> kennethgt: why do you want to change the runlevel?
[14:49] <jim_p> noobuntu93, pm me your lspci. it is far more usefu;
[14:49] <jim_p> useful*
[14:49] <noobuntu93> k
[14:49] <trancefat> Ubuntu crashes every time I shutdown... i mean the process comes to a very last stage(ubuntu logo with the status bar) and just hangs there... any ideas what could be causing it?
[14:49] <kennethgt> jrib, becouse the Xserver dont up and this are run in lvl 1
[14:50] <jrib> kennethgt: huh? in english?
[14:50] <jim_p> trancefat, remove usplash and try shutting down and make a close look for errors
[14:50] <__loverboy__> hey jim, i have to do it in a program, trying to make a backup software
[14:50] <__loverboy__> right now, have to create incremental backups
[14:50] <__loverboy__> so if i have to back up /home
[14:50] <__loverboy__> i need to be knowing its contents in the program
[14:50] <scientes> how can i watch whats writing to disk, dows IO could tmpfs mounts?
[14:50] <FloodBot1> __loverboy__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:50] <LjL> !info iotop | scientes, perhaps
[14:50] <trancefat> jim_p: how do i remove usplash
[14:51] <jim_p> trancefat, sudo apt-get autoremove usplash
[14:51] <elmnas> how do you add a subtitle in xine, you got like just channels?
[14:51] <trancefat> jim_p: ok i ll do that.. thanks
[14:51] <coubeatczech> hello, do you know what is the default mysql password? I installed the mysql database from repository and now I dont know how to administrate it...
[14:51] <scientes> LjL, hmm only in intrepid
[14:52] <LjL> scientes: ah yes, are you on hardy?
[14:52] <scientes> only on my router/server
[14:52] <LjL> scientes: i'll see if i can do a quick backport
[14:52] <slayton> what is the best way for me to backup my /home directory on a regular basis? Should I use rsync and cron to setup a direct copy everynight? Should I put my home dir in SVN? What do you recommend?
[14:52] <LjL> scientes: 386?
[14:52] <scientes> been wondering if i should upgrade
[14:52] <scientes> yes
[14:52] <Slart> coubeatczech: you've read the man page?
[14:53] <coubeatczech> briefly
[14:53] <brndmg> Hey Folks,  I am having some serious Ubuntu->Windows pptp VPN issues.   I have the updated network-manager-pptp to 0.7 from ppa.launchpad.net.   I am lucky to have access to the VPN logs on the server and It appears that ubuntu is trying to authenticate the computer rather than the user (domainname\ubuntuhostname).  Any ideas?
[14:54] <afallenhope|work> is there a tutorial anywhere to make LiveCD's of my current setup?
[14:54] <LjL> !customlivecd > afallenhope|work    (afallenhope|work, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:54] <afallenhope|work> ty ty
[14:55] <pyh> gn
[14:55] <LjL> scientes: http://ljl.byethost14.com/iotop_0.2-2_all.deb
[14:55] <pyh> grominet
[14:56] <lsbulab>  I just installed ubuntu, how can i change the screen resolution??
[14:56] <toehio> hello
[14:56] <Toznoshio> LjL, I'm curious, what have you done to the original package to backport it?
[14:56] <toehio> using CLI, how do I see how much space is left in my filesystem?
[14:56] <Slart> toehio: df -h
[14:57] <darkvertex> toehio: df -a -n
[14:57] <muxx> lsbulab, select from the menu: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[14:57] <LjL> Toznoshio: 1) added the Intrepid source (mind, *source*!) repository to /etc/apt/sources.list 2) sudo apt-get update 3) sudo apt-get build-dep iotop 4) apt-get --build source iotop
[14:57] <lsbulab> muxx: thanks :)
[14:57] <toehio> thank you
[14:57] <LjL> Toznoshio: doesn't always work without issue, but in this case both the build depends and the runtime depends were all satisfied by Hardy packages, so it went smoothly
[14:58] <Toznoshio> LjL, ok, thanks
[14:58] <ministry> does anyone know a one-page tutorial which explains what needs to be done in order to enable Japanese on your system (from the console)
[14:59] <radical> Hello, is it possible in ubuntu delete the pop-up description utility that run when i move the mouse upon a button????
[14:59] <LjL> ministry: what do you mean "enable japanese"? japanese *input*?
[14:59] <toehio> Why doesn't ubuntu work with my GeForce 9600GT? It hangs on starting HALD.
[15:00] <radical> mhhh???ù
[15:01] <ministry> I want everything on my system (that has japanese support, like say, midnight commander) to be in japanese
[15:01] <radical> is it possible in ubuntu delete the pop-up description utility that run when i move the mouse upon a button????
[15:02] <Setebos> I had a home partition already created when I installed ubuntu with my user on it. When I installed I could still access everything like I should but the user doesn't appear under "users settings" How do I make it show up?
[15:04] <mphill> radical: no, you might be able to turn some off with gconf-editor
[15:05] <radical> thonkyou mphill
[15:05] <Toznoshio> radical, tooltips are enabled globally by the gtk-enable-tooltips setting
[15:05] <mphill> Toznoshio: there maybe be QT, motif or other technologies with tool tips
[15:07] <kdogg> hello i keep getting a "The composite extension is not available" error when i try to add desktop effects
[15:07] <ardchoille> what is the name of the app used to test a .deb for errors?
[15:07] <LjL> ministry, that's only possible for packages that *come* with a japanese translation, and for packages from Universe like "mc" that's likely not the case. but still, the relevant document on how to do that from the console ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf ) seems to be outdated and i don't know how to fix it
[15:07] <kdogg> i meant enable sorry*
[15:08] <mphill> kdogg: what video card
[15:08] <darkvertex> Setebos: what is the user's uid and gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group? If I'm not mistaken hey should default to 1000 or above.
[15:08] <LjL> ardchoille: lintian?
[15:08] <kdogg> mphill ita a nvidia gforce 6 series, worked fine until my last install  of intrepid
[15:09] <kdogg> it may have even worked after that
[15:09] <kdogg> I just noticed my windows werent wobbly anymore and now i cant enable it
[15:09] <ardchoille> LjL: That's it.
[15:10] <tj83> Hi, all, i need some help finding the appropriate package or application, I have samba set up on my home network with shares and that works just fine, now i wish to access those shares from work to my home, so i think what i need is a VPN, how wold one accomplish this in 8.04?
[15:10] <Grom> hello
[15:10] <thembimoyo> Hello
[15:10] <Mohammad[B]> in rythmbox how to i can change the Equalizer ?
[15:10] <Grom> how can I put deb package to ubuntu repository?
[15:11] <FebruariusX> hello wheres the right room to ask about high-availability / load-balancing
[15:11] <LjL> !revu | grom
[15:11] <mphill> kdogg: try to install envyng-gtk and reinstall the latest driver.
[15:11] <ne2k__> how is it determined which user apache2 runs as? it seems to be running as the first user I created when I installed the system, rather than as www-data or something like that. this seems stupid to me
[15:11] <darkvertex> FebruariusX: you could try #ubuntu-server
[15:11] <tj83> !vpn
[15:11] <jrib> ne2k__: it runs as www-data by default
[15:12] <mphill> kdogg: Envy will be in the System Tool under the main menu
[15:12] <Grom> ubottu, thanks :)
[15:12] <Mohammad[B]> in rythmbox how to i can change the Equalizer ?
[15:12] <kdogg> k
[15:12] <mphill> tj83: probably easiest to just change your router settings and setup a DMZ
[15:12] <ne2k__> jrib: well, it's running as my first user. why would this be happening?
[15:12] <ne2k__> FebruariusX: you might try #networking or ##linux
[15:12] <jrib> ne2k__: check /etc/apache2/envvars
[15:13] <ne2k__> jrib: it's set correctly in there, as www-data and www-data
[15:13] <tj83> mphill, well i tried to just port forward it.. that did not work and DMZ would be a bigger risk security wise no?
[15:13] <daftykins> hi all, what's the deal with the new gnome network manager? in particular, how are you supposed to implement static IP addressing correctly? i'm used to editing /etc/network/interfaces but of course that's been replaced by the manager.
[15:14] <jrib> ne2k__: check the value of APACHE_RUN_USER in a shell
[15:14] <daftykins> if i create a new sort of "profile" using the manager, it refuses to be set as the default when i login, i always have to change to it from "auth eth0"
[15:14] <daftykins> sorry "auto eth0"
[15:14] <mphill> tj83: I don't think so unless youhave like 50 services.  Samba (windows cifs) is sorta ghetto over subnets since its a broadcase protocol.  Have you considered running a FTP server or using SSHFS
[15:15] <tj83> i have FTP implemented mphill but i want to use them without transfering them
[15:15] <simplexio> daftykins: same problem her. i have newer got hta piece workin. so i also just edit interfaces file
[15:15] <ne2k__> jrib: ah, hang on. I upgraded from 6.06 to 8.04 and told it not to install the package maintainer's version of the apache2.conf. i think something's changed.
[15:16] <daftykins> do you do anything to disable the network manager from trying to run dhclient with eth0 before doing that simplexio ?
[15:16] <jrib> ne2k__: ah, well I do have these lines there: User ${APACHE_RUN_USER}; Group ${APACHE_RUN_GROUP}
[15:16] <ne2k__> jrib: that's fixed it, it's running as www-data now. thanks for helping me track it down
[15:17] <mphill> tj83: I see. There is no reason why from windows you should not be able to go \\ip of server\share name and access them.  You have port 139 forwarded? if it totally still does not work, I would look into openvpn.  However its quite a steep learning curve.
[15:17] <daftykins> is that file sharing causing issue over two subnets with router in between?
[15:18] <_Zeus_> does anyone know how I can use scp from a windows maching?
[15:18] <_Zeus_> s/ing/ine/
[15:18] <ne2k__> tj83: I missed the beginning. what are you trying to do?
[15:18] <daftykins> yes download "winSCP"
[15:18] <daftykins> free program
[15:18] <EniLight> Çäðàâñòâóéòå, íå ìîãëè áû âû ïîìîÿü ìíå? ß â ñêîðîì áóäóùåì ñîáèðàþñü óñòàíîâèòü äèñòðèáóòèâ lunix - ubuntu 8.10, íî ê ìîåìó íîóòáóêó ïîäêëþ÷åí usb ìîäåì Thomson SpeedTouch 330 è äåëî â òîì ÷òî ÿ ïîëíûé íóá â ëèíîëèóìàõ, äàéòå ïæë ÑÀÌÛÉ ëåãêèé ìàí ïî åãî óñòàíîâêå/íàñòðîéêå ñ ìåíÿ ñèìïû, ëàôêè, ñîòíè íåôòè è èíòåðíåòîâ. àëñî áî÷êó äåëàë
[15:18] <_Zeus_> daftykins: ok
[15:18] <SystemFAILURE> Hello . How can I change the system language by terminal ?
[15:18] <tj83> mphill, yes exactly, port 139 is forwarded and i have not tried from windows yet but no go from ubuntu and i will look into openvpn, thanks a bunch
[15:18] <jabagawee> !ru | Enilight
[15:18] <AndyB> i have ubuntu 8.10.installed on a usb drive. i cant access it from windows due to the filesystem. can anyone recommend a program for this? i have tried 2 but they wont work
[15:18] <ikonia> EniLight: english please
[15:18] <afallenhope|work> EniLight, join #ubuntu-ru
[15:18] <jabagawee> AndyB, ext2fs
[15:19] <tj83> ne2k__, trying to access my samba shares remotely
[15:19] <ministry> LjL, thanks
[15:19] <ne2k__> AndyB: it's pretty much not possible
[15:19] <ne2k__> tj83: from windows?
[15:19] <ikonia> AndyB: ext3 file system support under windows is dubious, I't not receommned using it unless you are %100 confident you have a backup
[15:19] <tj83> ne2k__, windows and ubuntu both
[15:19] <daftykins> did you make the USB key a live USB key or just install ubuntu to it AndyB ?
[15:19] <ikonia> AndyB: or the data is not important
[15:19] <EniLight> ok, sorry
[15:19] <_Zeus_> AndyB: is it ext3?
[15:19] <AndyB> Thanks for the advice
[15:19] <simplexio> daftykins: i just define auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static
[15:19] <SystemFAILURE> I need to change my system language from it_IT to en_GB . How can I do that with the terminal ?
[15:19] <AndyB> _Zeus_, yes
[15:19] <N1ckR> anyone ever had problems with thunderbird not downloading the odd message body (headers fine) in imap (gmail) ?
[15:19] <_Zeus_> AndyB: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[15:20] <AndyB> Its just that i am having trouble with ubuntu it wont boot so i need to access some of the grub files from windows
[15:20] <daftykins> ah ok so after that the network manager systray app, does it stay there and say not connected or? @ simplexio
[15:20] <xfm> hello. I am on Ubuntu Intrepid. When I watch a video (vlc or streaming) the sound sometimes disapears during 20 seconds approximatively, then reappears. How can I fix this?
[15:20] <N1ckR> dont blink for so long ?
[15:21] <AndyB> _Zeus_, I just tried this program, but it kept teling me i needed to format the drive when i tried to open it
[15:21] <tj83> ne2k__, think openvpn is my ticket?
[15:21] <ikonia> AndyB please double check what I said earlier before pushing on
[15:21] <tony_> #ubuntu.it
[15:21] <_Zeus_> AndyB: umm...
[15:21] <mphill> xfm is it like that in all players, totem, vlc, mplayer, etc?
[15:21] <ne2k__> tj83: best thing to do in my experience is an ssh tunnel
[15:21] <tony_> installare hauppauge
[15:22] <AndyB> ikonia, Yes thank you, The ubuntu install has never been used so i dont mind using it, its just that i cant get it to boot. i need to edit some of the grub files.
[15:22] <Milos_SD> Hello all
[15:22] <ikonia> AndyB whats the problem booting it ?
[15:22] <AndyB> Its ok i can do it from the live CD.. It just takes 10 minutes to boot every time i need to change
[15:22] <xfm> mphill it seams so, cause I use mplayer for the streamings
[15:22] <simplexio> daftykins: it isnt htere at all, but i think i removed it from gnome-startup scripts. and please use standart way to ask or talk to me.. hint lines start eith my nick. its very hard to notice those msg
[15:22] <ikonia> AndyB what's actually the problem booting it
[15:22] <ne2k__> tj83: you create a loopback interface on windows with a made-up IP address, and then you tunnel between the local interface on the remote box and the virtual ip locally on port 139
[15:22] <tj83> ne2k__, yea... i briefly looked at that... 2 problems one minor one major. minor: the syntax string is about a mile long, and 2nd i need this to work from even a win box w/out putty or any extra applications
[15:23] <slayton> is there anyway to undelete things in linux
[15:23] <ikonia> slayton not really
[15:23] <AndyB> ikonia, I have tried installing ubuntu 4 times now, every time i install i get "kernel panic-not syncing VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)", before each install i have redownloaded, reburned, and reinstalled. So obviously im doing something wrong?
[15:23] <jrib> slayton: go to your trash and undelete the file
[15:23] <ne2k__> tj83: well if you need it to work without extra applications then you're not going to have a lot of luck with openvpn
[15:23] <ikonia> AndyB sounds like your device.map is wrong at a quick guess
[15:23] <daftykins> simplexio, ok thanks, i find it really surprising that such a replacement app is so badly coded to handle more advanced users
[15:23] <ikonia> AndyB: that should be fixable
[15:23] <afallenhope|work> slayton, check your trash .. otherwise what type of file systsem?
[15:23] <Milos_SD> Is there a way when I update Nvidia drivers from repos, to use them without restarting my PC? I can't just restart X, it complains about kernel modules not  being loaded.
[15:23] <AndyB> ikonia, Sorry typed that wrong, i get that error when i try booting from grub
[15:23] <tj83> ne2k__, lol ok, darn!
[15:23] <ikonia> AndyB: first a quick question, are you using raid ?
[15:23] <afallenhope|work> slayton, you can try testdisk
[15:23] <ne2k__> tj83: you can run putty without "installing" it, as it were, which ought to be good enough on even a library PC
[15:23] <afallenhope|work> !testdisk
[15:24] <afallenhope|work> ...
[15:24] <AndyB> ikonia, Raid? I dont even know what that is so i dont think so, if its a boot sys, no im using Grub
[15:24] <slayton> what happened was I ran an rsync script that removed a bunch of files.... what would be the best way of trying to recover those files?
[15:24] <slayton> so they aren't in the trash
[15:24] <ne2k__> tj83: yes, the syntax is a mile long, but you just put a file on your web server that sets it up
[15:24] <ikonia> AndyB no, raid is multiple hard disks joined together to make one
[15:24] <ne2k__> tj83: oh, hang on, no, you can't do it on a library pc because you can't create the extra loopback interface
[15:24] <ikonia> AndyB: a lot of people enable it on their motherboard
[15:24] <jrib> !recover | slayton
[15:24] <jrib> slayton: but really your just looking at using backups
[15:24] <simplexio> daftykins: yeah.. actually i have newer got it working right, but i use ubuntu only on desktops so it isnt that big problem
[15:24] <AndyB> ikonia, Ah, then no i am not using it
[15:24] <jrib> you're
[15:24] <afallenhope|work> that's what I was lookign for thanks jrib
[15:24] <gottesmm> quick question, I have a file which seems to hang when I stat it (I was trying to discover why updatedb was hanging). It sounds to me like it is a harddrive inconsistency which means implies I should fsck the system. Do you guys agree?
[15:25] <ikonia> AndyB thats great, that makes things easy
[15:25] <ne2k__> tj83: what do you actually need to do over this link?
[15:25] <tj83> ne2k__, ok thanks for all the suggestions i will just have to take some time and sit down, more research and draw some conclusions and plans :)
[15:25] <ikonia> are you able to boot into ubuntu to trouble shoot this with me /
[15:25] <lxd> hi
[15:25] <daftykins> simplexio, yeah i guess it's ubuntu server for the real stuff :D thanks anyway, i'll just edit /etc/network/interfaces as usual
[15:25] <ne2k__> tj83: I suspect that openvpn can be made to work without "installing", but it may bork at the thought of you doing anything "admin-ish" with the networking too
[15:25] <tj83> ne2k__, basically access a ton of files, documents and vid and music cause of my limited disk space on my notebook
[15:25] <sarat> hi
[15:25] <AndyB> ikonia, ah this is good news, ive been trying for days. everytime i install to this usb i get that error, it has worked before, but i needed to reinstall, and after i reinstalled i kept getting that error.
[15:25] <ne2k__> tj83: in what way "access"?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> AndyB  Do you know the format of the partition you are using for the install.  THis is a normal install not some wubi or VM option .. correct
[15:26] <tj83> execute them w/out moving them
[15:26] <ne2k__> tj83: do you actually need to be able to open them through UNC paths as if they were local
[15:26] <ne2k__> tj83: ok
[15:26] <ikonia> AndyB ahhh your instlaling to usb
[15:26] <tj83> execute them w/out moving them ne2k__ yes
[15:26] <AndyB> Jack_Sparrow, Yes its a normal install to a usb drive, its ext3
[15:26] <onthefence928> is there a working pandora plug-in for AWN?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> AndyB USB is not a normal install.. but it is one of the options
[15:26] <ne2k__> tj83: I think you're asking a lot
[15:26] <tony_> ubuntu it
[15:27] <AndyB> ikonia, Yes. I do not wish to partition my internal drive so im using a usb
[15:27] <ikonia> AndyB: ok, that complicates things a bit more, but still fixable
[15:27] <tj83> ne2k__, thing is i know your right... does seem like alot, but 5 min in xp and its done... should be possible in linux too
[15:27] <AndyB> Jack_Sparrow, Well im just running the normal install from live cd, and selecting to install to my usb hd
[15:27] <tony_> install hauppauge hvr 900?
[15:27] <ikonia> tony_: what about it
[15:27] <ne2k__> tj83: I don't think you're ever going to be able to do what you want without admin access on windows;
[15:27] <ikonia> tony_: you just keep sayign that
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> AndyB Fine, but there are differences that the person helping you needs to be aware of.
[15:28] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: well spotted
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:28] <AndyB> Jack_Sparrow, Ah my appologies. I was unaware.
[15:28] <AndyB> Jack_S
[15:28] <kdogg> mphill it seems that i cannot use desktop effects with xinerama enabled
[15:28] <kdogg> anyone know a way around thet?
[15:28] <ikonia> kdogg nope
[15:28] <kdogg> that*
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kdogg not if you are running nvidia..
[15:28] <khakane> anyone help me out with vmware server 2.0 in hardy, just got new kernel + gcc, and the gcc doesnt match the one the kernel was built with..
[15:28] <ne2k__> tj83: the ssh option was the one I went for when I went through this a while ago. I used srvany.exe to run a script which kept a putty tunnel alive in the background so it automatically restarts if you lose your network connection or suspend your notebook
[15:29] <kdogg> so ati can?
[15:29] <AndyB> Jack_Sparrow, Ikonia, maybe you should also be aware this has worked before, it worked on friday and i got it working, but i had an issue with grub and needed to reinstall. and then it stopped working
[15:29] <ikonia> AndyB what issue with grub
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> kdogg yes
[15:29] <simplexio> khakane: then make them match, recompile kernel using your new and shiny gcc ?
[15:29] <ikonia> AndyB: you don't just start having issues with grub unless something changes
[15:29] <xfm> mphill: could it be pulseaudio who decides that another application needs the canal and shut mine?
[15:29] <ne2k__> tj83: you don't need anything so complex on linux to be able to execute remote files -- the filesystem just works
[15:29] <tj83> ne2k__, many thanks again. i just need to do some homework before going further
[15:29] <afallenhope|work> Jack_Sparrow, I got it to work with nvidia. I think nvidia is much better than ATI for DE
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> kdogg I think you can use twinview, but you can ask in #compiz
[15:29] <khakane> simplexio: defeats teh purpose of prebuilt kernels
[15:30] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: didn't you use twinview though and not xinerama
[15:30] <KDB9000> I have a little problem. I can work around it for the most part but it is very annoying. When I right click in Firefox, it will sometimes auto select an option are random. This happens with my mouse and my touch pad on my laptop. Is there a way I could fix this?
[15:30] <kdogg> Jack_Sparrow any recommendations on a good but not expensive ati card?
[15:30] <zsquareplusc> hm. flash is not installable.. my problem is this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/304969
[15:30] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, nope. didn'twork. I had to install envy. and then I used nvidia-settings
[15:30] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: thats twinview
[15:30] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: not xinemera
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> kdogg See the people in compiz, they may have fixed that by now
[15:30] <ne2k__> tj83: particularly if you use fuse
[15:30] <AndyB> ikonia, Error 21, When i installed to usb. It installed grub into the MBR but put the Config files onto the USB. So i needed to have the USB plugged in to boot the computer. I tried to move GRUB to the internal drive but it only made things worse. So i started over again. Then when i reinstalled everything i started getting this error. (Note i have used Fixmbr and Fixboot before i reinstalled)
[15:30] <afallenhope|work> although.. that was on my Ubuntu box lol. I'm on Gentoo now
[15:31] <kdogg> ok thanks
[15:31] <simplexio> khakane: yes.. but then you have two options same gcc used to compile your kernel, or get kernel that is compiled save gcc version .. or offcourse you can forget vmware and use virtualbox
[15:31] <Toznoshio> KDB9000, I have had the same issue, but have not found a solution :(
[15:31] <ne2k__> tj83: http://asbjorn.it/blog/2007/01/fuse-for-windows/en/ looks as though some people are working on fuse for windows -- that would help you
[15:32] <Toznoshio> KDB9000, just a workaround
[15:32] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: that bug is still open if you read the bug report
[15:32] <simplexio> khakane: and i think you get same problem with that too. so you have only two options. and far as i can tell easiest option is compile kernel
[15:32] <afallenhope|work> !virtualbox | khakane
[15:32] <KDB9000> Toznoshio, whats the workaround?
[15:32] <KDB9000> Toznoshio, a workaround is better then nothing
[15:32] <Toznoshio> right-click towards the beginning of the link
[15:33] <KDB9000> Toznoshio, interesting. guess i will have to try that
[15:33] <mulender> I was recently trying several distros and I came across an odd thing. When I used a Broadcom Wireless card with Debian Lenny it worked with the kernel driver, but every other distros I tried either needed Ndiswrappered Win32 driver or in the case of Suse didn't work at all. My puzzle is this. Should Debian derived distros like Ubuntu work with the same kernel drivers?
[15:33] <etuardu> hello, in Intrepid Ibex, when I press ctrl+left/right arrow, it prints ";5D" or ";5C" instead of jumping to the next/previous word... how can i fix this?
[15:33] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: yup. and the last comment gives hope... but it means i cant use flash on that hardy for an unknown time :(  (gnash isn't compatible to the single site i really need flash)
[15:33] <ikonia> mulender no
[15:34] <mulender> ikonia so why not?
[15:34] <khakane> simplexio: virtualbox any better than vmware?
[15:34] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: what do you want us to do about it ?
[15:34] <etuardu> hello, in Intrepid Ibex (in gnome-terminal), when I press ctrl+left/right arrow, it prints ";5D" or ";5C" instead of jumping to the next/previous word... how can i fix this?
[15:34] <ikonia> mulender: because ubuntu uses a different kernel version
[15:34] <Toznoshio> etuardu, in VI?
[15:34] <AndyB> ikonia, No idea then?
[15:34] <etuardu> Toznoshio: in gnome-terminal
[15:34] <mulender> ikonia so when Ubuntu starts using the same kernel it will be supported?
[15:34] <ikonia> AndyB tons but you need to boot into ubuntu to walk it through
[15:35] <ikonia> mulender why would ubuntu use the same kernel, it's based on debian, not debian
[15:35] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: so there is no good workaround? (installing it manually is no good workaround) :-)
[15:35] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: so the auto install doens't work, and you don't want to install manaully - what do you want ?
[15:35] <simplexio> khakane: when i tested vmware server it slow as hell owhen installing visual studio, vbox di same stuff in 10x faster. thogh i think that there had to be somekind bug in vmware that i used
[15:35] <AndyB> ikonia, would live cd do?
[15:35] <atx> fuckers
[15:35] <atx> ;P
[15:35] <atx> i love ubuntuuuuuuuuuuh
[15:35] <xfm> me too
[15:36] <Toznoshio> etuardu, do you have "set -o vi" in .bashrc?
[15:36] <mulender> ikonia so I may just have to use Debian with that laptop and lump it?
[15:36] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: that bug gives you 3 options 1.) wait for a fix 2.) manually install 3.) enabled hardy backports -
[15:36] <simplexio> khakane: and you still have same problem with vbox because it need kernel-modules too.. probably im not 100% sure about it because i use custom kernel all time. it isnt that hard
[15:36] <ikonia> mulender: if you want
[15:36] <nadine> hello all
[15:37] <nadine> german poeple here?
[15:37] <ikonia> !de > nadine
[15:37] <mulender> ikonia well I prefer Ubuntu but Debian works better on that system :(
[15:37] <ikonia> mulender: ok
[15:37] <nadine> hä was
[15:37] <nadine> ^
[15:37] <felix_da_catz> When I use the GUI to mount a network (samba) share does it map to a directory somewhere on the drive?  Or is it only available through the GUI.
[15:38] <ikonia> felix_da_catz: normally mounts it on /media, "mount" command whill show you where things are mounted
[15:38] <nadine> oh mann ich hab in de schule in english net aufgepasst
[15:38] <ikonia> !de > nadine
[15:38] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: well, it's just a bad thing, in feisty broke that package and now its hardy. you can not seriously convince less computer savvy people to convert to ubuntu if the flash plugin breaks all the time :(
[15:38] <nadine> ikonia jaaaa
[15:38] <xfm> !fr
[15:38] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: this is a problem with ALL linux
[15:38] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: so no, I 'm not trying to convince anyone to use linux
[15:39] <Milos_SD> Is there a way when I update Nvidia drivers from repos, to use them without restarting my PC? I can't just restart X, it complains about kernel modules not  being loaded.
[15:39] <ikonia> Milos_SD: why do you want to update them ?
[15:39] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: it should work with hardy-backports? i have these in sources.list but i don't see a difference. hm
[15:39] <daftykins> Milos_SD,  does the installation generate a new module? you can probably modprobe the replacement and then reload X.
[15:40] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: if you read the bug report you'll see the details
[15:40] <Milos_SD> ikonia, I had an update today, from 177.80 to 177.82 :)
[15:40] <ikonia> Milos_SD: yes ?
[15:40] <AndyB> ikonia, i can log into live cd, or if you knew any webpages with instructions i could follow? i would greatly appriciate it.
[15:40] <ikonia> Milos_SD: that doesn't answer my question, why do you want to update the nvidia drivers
[15:40] <ikonia> !usb > AndyB
[15:40] <ikonia> !grub > AndyB
[15:40] <daftykins> AndyB,  what exactly are you trying to do with a USB key installation?
[15:40] <mulender> ikonia but basically it IS down to the kernel version and the distro is ared herring?
[15:41] <Milos_SD> daftykins, if the module is nvidia, I tryed that... didn't work... :(
[15:41] <ikonia> mulender pretty much
[15:41] <daftykins> Milos_SD, why is a reboot so much to ask?
[15:41] <ikonia> Milos_SD: that doesn't answer my question, why do you want to update the nvidia drivers
[15:41] <slayton> how can I display the filesystem type from the command line?
[15:41] <mulender> So I'm htinking when I've learn more I could choose that kernel over the default in any distro?
[15:41] <ikonia> slayton: mount will show you
[15:41] <ikonia> mulender: wouldn't reommend it
[15:41] <Milos_SD> ikonia, becouse it was offered to me from update manager...
[15:41] <mulender> Ah right
[15:41] <ikonia> Milos_SD: so you've update then, whats the problem
[15:42] <mulender> Yeah I supose their optimised for each set up
[15:42] <juro> hi, I am mounting a ntfs drive but always belongs to root - how can I make it belong to my user?
[15:42] <mulender> Good point
[15:42] <AndyB> daftykins, When i install ubuntu to a usb drive, from live cd. i get "Kernal Panic - not syncing :VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)"
[15:42] <daftykins> slayton you can "cat /etc/fstab" and read which file system is being mounted where
[15:42] <tony_> come si installa
[15:42] <daftykins> AndyB,  yeah i'm asking why you want to.
[15:42] <Milos_SD> daftykins, well... I don't like to reboot... and I have some services that need to work 24/7 ...
[15:42] <daftykins> Milos_SD,  then you shouldn't be running a 3D card on such a system ;)
[15:42] <Milos_SD> ikonia, problem is that I needed to reboot my PC if I wanted to use them :)
[15:42] <etuardu> Toznoshio: I do not have any problems in vi, this issue appears within the bash shell in gnome-terminal
[15:42] <ikonia> Milos_SD: whats the actual problem, you'lve applied the driver package, it will take effect next time you reboot
[15:42] <Newbe> 8.10 help no audio, no autorun program to reinstall os help
[15:42] <AndyB> daftykins, I want to run ubuntu from my usb harddrive as i have windows on my internal drive.
[15:43] <ikonia> Milos_SD: yes thats right, it's a running module so requires a reboot
[15:43] <mulender> ikonia So how come Lenny has the Newest Kernel? I thought it was more old fashioned distro. I need to read a lot more!
[15:43] <slayton> ikaros, daftykins thanks!
[15:43] <ikonia> mulender: ask the debian guys
[15:43] <miguel> hello
[15:43] <Milos_SD> ikonia, problem is that if I install Nvidia drivers with Nvidia .run script, I can just restart X and it will work... but with drivers from repos it is not enough :)
[15:43] <Toznoshio> etuardu, try installing the XFCE terminal
[15:43] <daftykins> AndyB, boot a CD-R of ubuntu 8.10 desktop and plug in your USB key, then go to System -> Administration -> Create a USB startup disk. is that what you've been doing?
[15:43] <ikonia> Milos_SD because they are tied into the running kernel version
[15:44] <Guest95043> I am doing a proyect in GNU Radio (GRCompanion) and I have a cuestion very important
[15:44] <mulender> ikonia actually i will say one thing for Debian - their hardware support is amazing. It even worked on my old 98 machine.
[15:44] <ikonia> Milos_SD: if you didn't want to reboot, don't reboot
[15:44] <komotheit> Hello, I would like some help relating to usplash not being able to use themes other than the default one since the upgrade to 8.10
[15:44] <mulender> Ok I've got the gist ikonia thanks for your help
[15:44] <Milos_SD> ikonia, I know... but I want to be able to use new version of drivers (firefox bug repaired)
[15:44] <Milos_SD> :)
[15:44] <ikonia> Milos_SD: then either kill X, unload the modules, do a depmod reload the new module, restart X
[15:45] <ikonia> I doubt it will work peroperly due to the tie in with the kernel
[15:45] <AndyB> daftykins, No i have been booting a CD of ubuntu 8.10 desktop and then clicking the install icon on the desktop, and when the partition manager loads i select the external drive, and it runs the install. i restart, select ubuntu from grub. it tries to boot and gives that error
[15:45] <ikonia> Milos_SD: just wait until your next reboot
[15:45] <ikonia> AndyB: read the USB info ubottu sent you
[15:45] <ikonia> AndyB: it expalins the difference for a usb install
[15:45] <Milos_SD> ikonia, did that... didn't worked... only if it's not "nvidia" name of the module :)
[15:45] <daftykins> AndyB,  do it my way to make a self-standing bootable USB key. you can even use the wizard to create permanent storage area, or just have it as a "Live USB key"
[15:46] <ikonia> Milos_SD: it's tied to the running kernel
[15:46] <Guest95043> Somebody that know GNU Radio??
[15:46] <Guest95043> please give me private
[15:47] <ikonia> Guest95043: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/
[15:47] <AndyB> ikonia, Are they not for installing FROM a usb? Im installing from the live cd, i have the image burned to the cd and wish to install ubuntu onto the drive to boot into, not a live version
[15:47] <Guest95043> thank you very much
[15:47] <ikonia> AndyB: no, the first one is a link to install to usb
[15:47] <AndyB> ikonia, Ah ok thanks will check it =]
[15:47] <gaintsura> hey all, ^_^ *happily browsing without a windows connection again* w00t!
[15:48] <Guest95043> but, i have seen this web, and dont help me
[15:48] <AndyB> daftykins, I would rather just do a full install, I know it works, I did it on friday, but i messed up grub and had to do it again, but when i tried again i got the above error
[15:48] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: are we reading the same bug report? i see someone expressing a wish, but there is no solution. the backports version is also broken. but we cal also stop this discussion, i'll have to wait..
[15:48] <ikonia> Guest95043: what do you want
[15:48] <ikonia> zsquareplusc don't know, I've closed the bug reprot
[15:48] <CAiRO> hi
[15:48] <shiMMer> hi2 guys
[15:48] <CAiRO> how can i configure vim.gnome so it actually start the gui editor and not the console one?
[15:49] <ikonia> CAiRO: use gvim ?
[15:49] <ikonia> CAiRO: not vim
[15:49] <CAiRO> ikonia: well, my editor alternative points to vim.gnome
[15:49] <rbil> !scrollkeeper
[15:49] <daftykins> AndyB,  fair enough, if you're not willing to take a known approach then i won't stand in your way.... though i would say that your problem probably stems from trying to install GRUB to the local disk despite wanting it on the key. you've probably affected your local Windows install now to try and get it working.
[15:49] <Guest95043> I want help for GNU Radio Companion
[15:49] <CAiRO> and i'm pretty sure that i've been using it to start gvim before
[15:49] <ikonia> CAiRO: what's in that file
[15:49] <Guest95043> I am doing a proyect of reception/ Transmision the OFDM
[15:49] <CAiRO> ikonia: its a symlink to vim.gnome :)
[15:49] <rbil> is it safe to remove scrollkeeper? seems to want to take half of gnome with it :-)
[15:49] <goodmami> CAiRO, you can alias vim to gvim if you want to start the gui editor with the "vim" command
[15:50] <ikonia> CAiRO: bu whawt is in that file
[15:50] <daftykins> rbil, i wouldn't recommend it
[15:50] <komotheit> Hello, I would like some help relating to usplash not being able to use themes other than the default one since the upgrade to 8.10
[15:50] <rbil> daftykins: can it be turned off or the crontab at least?
[15:50] <CAiRO> ikonia: good point, but /usr/bin/vim.gnome is a binary
[15:51] <ikonia> CAiRO: ok, so it's linking direct to the binary
[15:51] <daftykins> rbil, i think all it is is a function that maintains and orders help docs relating to installed software. i'm sure it can be safely avoided.
[15:51] <AndyB> daftykins, thank you for the advice
[15:51] <daftykins> np
[15:51] <CAiRO> ikonia: yes, svn uses the editor alternative as editor for entering comments.. and i want gvim to pop up
[15:52] <CAiRO> that has been working before.. i think on last friday it did work
[15:52] <CAiRO> but today, it doesnt
[15:52] <ikonia> CAiRO: odd
[15:52] <CAiRO> ikonia: yes, and that's all because vim.gnome does start vim in the terminal
[15:53] <CAiRO> i think a binary with ".gnome" in its name shouldn't be a terminal program
[15:54] <cousteau> how do I use bootchart?
[15:56] <uskill> Hello -- can anyone help me with a semaphore question?
[15:56] <incepator__> hi
[15:56] <jdsandeson> is this thing working?
[15:57] <Blinny> Is there a utility similar to nice, except for network downloads? I'd like to limit a wget session to, say, 80KB/sec
[15:57] <zsquareplusc> CAiRO: where how did you get the .gnome version? i just have a vim.gtk and it also starts in the console
[15:57] <darkvertex> Blinny: tc?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> i'm trying to ffmpeg a file but am getting an error: Unknown encoder 'h264'
[15:58] <Blinny> darkvertex: Is that user-specific? I have 20 people logged into terminals on this box.
[15:58] <CAiRO> zsquareplusc: strange, i think that is a bug, vim.gnome is part of the vim-gnome package
[15:58] <Blinny> Hrm. Maybe 'trickle'
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> If i run: ffmpeg -formats i can see it in the list
[15:59] <darkvertex> Blinny: could be configured that way if you want.
[15:59] <komotheit> Hello, I would like some help relating to usplash not being able to use themes other than the default one since the upgrade to 8.10
[15:59] <zsquareplusc> CAiRO: ok, now i have the .gnome, and it starts in console
[15:59] <robert__> hi all, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10 and all non-gnome applications don't display text..
[15:59] <darkvertex> Blinny: i.e. per ip addr
[15:59] <Blinny> darkvertex: Thanks. I think I found what I need in 'trickle' - runs in userspace and can attach to processes.
[15:59] <Blinny> darkvertex: Doesn't work - all users are on thin clients, so all applications run on the server (This is an LTSP server)
[15:59] <Blinny> darkvertex: I appreciate your suggestions. Cheers.
[16:00] <darkvertex> Blinny: ok. np
[16:00] <zsquareplusc> CAiRO: with -g it starts as gui, but it is not blocking then, bad for svn
[16:00] <jdsandeson> robert do you have an invidia g forse go?
[16:00] <robert__> nvidia gforce4
[16:01] <s0ullight> hello is there any way to undo the last token updates via upate-manager?
[16:01] <CAiRO> zsquareplusc: yes, exactly... and i'm sure it has been working not very long ago..
[16:01] <zsquareplusc> CAiRO: -f -g works but can you add options for alternatives?
[16:01] <jdsandeson> robert are you using the invidia driver or  the xorg driver?
[16:01] <robert__> nvidia 96 driver
[16:01] <zsquareplusc> CAiRO: i never had the gui, my vim on commits always opened in the console
[16:01] <jackd> hi. i have a little question about reverse ssh tunnel. the tunnel it self works very nice. but i want that the tunnel destination is not restricted to localhost. instead it should be accessable to all host in my local network. does someone know how to realize it?
[16:01] <CAiRO> zsquareplusc: i don't think so.. i could add a short batch script which actually calls gvim... so i could work around the problem but ideally i wouldn't have to do that
[16:02] <joachimATjku> does anyone know how I can edit the mouts in my "Places menu" in gnome
[16:02] <CAiRO> zsquareplusc: yes, i've explicitly configured my editor alternative to start vim.gnome
[16:02] <CAiRO> zsquareplusc: what does yours point to?
[16:02] <calum> A couple of people (whom I do not think are in channel atm) advised me to edit my 000-default file to enable the webserver to be like subdirectory of /home.
[16:03] <zsquareplusc> jackd: see -g option, however that may be insecure if your network has untrusted users
[16:03] <jackd> zsquareplusc: testing right now. thank you very much
[16:03] <jdsandeson> I have the same problem i have a g force 4 go same chip just in a laptop i disable the driver and evrything works ok except 3d when i want to run 3d i enable the driver use it and then disable it again
[16:03] <calum> I have also edited an apache2 file but I cannot have done it properly as no subdirectory has appeared :}
[16:04] <zsquareplusc> CAiRO: now that i installed vim-gnome, the alternative was automatically updated to vim.gnome.
[16:04] <robert__> jdsandeson, any ideas why?
[16:05] <calum> I have installed a webserver using tasksel.  How can I make the document root a subdirectory of /home ?
[16:05] <jdsandeson> Well The invidia driver is written for many cards and is propriatary some cards work b etter than others
[16:05] <robert__> jdsandeson, right.. so we should just wait for a new version?
[16:05] <zsquareplusc> calum: so you probably have apache2. and why not use /var/www?
[16:06] <jdsandeson> in my case there are several glitches
[16:06] <calum> I want to be able to access it as calum rather than as root :)
[16:06] <calum> I am the only user of the machine
[16:06] <zsquareplusc> calum: adduser calum www-data  and you can
[16:06] <jdsandeson> no the g force 2 and 4 are obselete need to get an fx 6200 or above
[16:06] <komotheit> Hello, I would like some help relating to usplash not being able to use themes other than the default one since the upgrade to 8.10
[16:06] <calum> Where do I do that zsquareplusc?
[16:07] <calum> Where do I type in adduser calum www-data?
[16:07] <robert__> jdsandeson, maybe I'm buying a new card soon anyway
[16:07] <zsquareplusc> calum: in a terminal with sudo, or use the user management tool in system->admin
[16:07] <s0ullight> alt f2 gksu
[16:07] <jdsandeson> at least you can darn thing is soldered down to my laptop
[16:08] <calum> Ok - so if I type that into terminal, it should work - I do not have to go to a particular directory or anything to do that?
[16:08] <robert__> jdsandeson, that sucks.
[16:08] <robert__> well, thanks for info
[16:08] <s0ullight> jdsandeson, with some heat you should be able to get it out
[16:09] <jdsandeson> robert do you know how to turn the invidia driver on and off?
[16:09] <robert__> yes
[16:09] <robert__> hardware drivers
[16:09] <zsquareplusc> calum: no. it just addds yourself to the group www-data. that means that you can access files owned by that group can be manipulated by you. the web server also has this group so you can do the same things as the webserver
[16:09] <jdsandeson> The only time i use it is for google earth
[16:10] <calum> ty zsquareplusc :)
[16:10] <robert__> for me, gaming and desktop effects
[16:10] <robert__> too bad, I'm gonna have to turn it off all the time :(
[16:10] <robert__> hope it works with wine then..
[16:10] <robert__> bye
[16:11] <jdsandeson> it should just might have to tinker around with which win version you are emulating
[16:11] <robert__> xp
[16:11] <robert__> ah ok
[16:11] <robert__> ill see then
[16:11] <robert__> thanks for info, bye
[16:11] <jdsandeson> later
[16:12] <jackd> hmm. ssh tunnel is still local only. i can see it with "netstat -anp --inet". my specified port is bound to 127.0.0.1 :(
[16:12] <PietroComo> hi
[16:12] <PietroComo> !list
[16:14] <komotheit> Hello, I would like some help relating to usplash not being able to use themes other than the default one since the upgrade to 8.10
[16:15] <calum> zsquareplusc: I still cannot edit the /var/www files without being root :(
[16:16] <calum> I must have misconfigured something when I tried to change the document root.
[16:19] <livindaylight> hi
[16:19] <livindaylight> has anyone here heard of xmind? http://www.xmind.net/
[16:19] <Elijah_Frost> Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I have an Ubuntu 8.10  computer, let us call it "Main Computer", and Windows XP computer, let us call it "Game Station". Main computer is connected to ADSL modem so it has good broadband connection. The question is: what is the most effective (and a simple) way to share this internet connection with my Game station (Windows XP machine). I'm thinking about VPN at the moment
[16:19] <livindaylight> I was wondering whether someone can help me install it?
[16:19] <ecasseano> 123
[16:19] <Ax-Ax> what can i do if a process doesn't stop?
[16:20] <livindaylight> Ax-Ax, kill it
[16:20] <calum> zsquareplusc: Do I need to change permissions on /var/www to let me edit it as calum?
[16:20] <livindaylight> Ax-Ax, System > Administration > System Monitor
[16:20] <jackd> if it has a guy -> type in konsole "xkill" and klick on the window of the tool you want to kill
[16:20] <Ax-Ax> livindaylight: i mean, when i kill it, nothing happens
[16:20] <jackd> a GUI i mean :)
[16:21] <SlimeyPete> Ax-Ax: kill -9 it
[16:21] <livindaylight> Ax-Ax, have you tried force-quuit?
[16:21] <simplexio> Elijah_Frost: transparent bridge
[16:21] <Mrokii> hello, I wondered if anybody in here can help an almost complete linux-newbie with making the 8.04-livecd work on an iMac G3
[16:21] <Ax-Ax> SlimeyPete: -9 did it :)
[16:21] <darkvertex> Ax-Ax: kill -KILL (process id)
[16:22] <simplexio> Elijah_Frost: assumint htat you 2 network card in main computer
[16:23] <calum> I want to be able to edit files on my ubuntu webserver without being root.  How do I do that, please?
[16:23] <Gandhi> I'm having trouble connecting to a wireless network using the network manager that comes with 8.10. I can connect to the network using Windows from the same computer and from Xubuntu on a different computer, which is why I think the network manager in 8.10 is the problem. Any suggestions on how to procceed would be greatly appreciated.
[16:24] <itona> hi there... how can i enable the email notifier without having evolution running?
[16:24] <jackd> calum: chmod a+w the.file
[16:24] <simplexio> Elijah_Frost: or just google ubuntu internet connection sharing and use that NAT guide
[16:24] <ompaul> calum, edit them as yourself and put them somewhere to be moved to the root of the server by a process in cron or else type sudo cp *.html /var/www/.
[16:24] <calum> just the file and not the directory, jackd?
[16:25] <Elijah_Frost> simplexio: thank you, will do
[16:25] <jackd> dir will also work
[16:25] <komotheit> Hello, I would like some help relating to usplash not being able to use themes other than the default one since the upgrade to 8.10
[16:25] <jackd> calum: not sure. simply test it :)
[16:26] <calum> Before I fresh installed ubunutu ibex, I had hardy heron and I was able to edit files as user in /var/www without difficulty.
[16:26] <Toznoshio> Gandhi, use wicd instead f netw mgr
[16:26] <calum> Would I need to do that every time I edited a file, ompaul?
[16:26] <Gandhi> Toznoshio : How do I do that? Is it already installed or should I download it now and save it to a USB key?
[16:27] <Toznoshio> Gandhi, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[16:27] <Gandhi> Toznoshio:  (I'm using Windows right now but will have to reboot to load Ubuntu)
[16:27] <calum> I think I need to reinstall the webserver and then try to apply the advice from this room again :)
[16:27] <ompaul> calum, if it is updated often then you should write it locally and have cron cruise by every five minutes and pick it up and drop it off wherever
[16:27] <ompaul> calum, ehh sudo apt-get remove --purge apache
[16:28] <calum> ah that sounds easier than I feared, ompaul - the apt-get part :)
[16:28] <Gandhi> Toznoshio : correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that guide assume I'm able to connect to the internet?
[16:29] <ompaul> calum, assuming you installed it with synaptic or apt-get
[16:29] <ompaul> calum, if not then you may have some nasty problems on your hands
[16:29] <calum> I did it with apt-get :)
[16:29] <calum> I did it using tasksel
[16:30] <Toznoshio> Gandhi, yes, or else you can download the .deb on another PC
[16:30] <jayde_drag0n> okay i have a weird problem, i just upgraded to intrepid ibex about 4 hours ago.. now when i goto watch videos either with totem or vlc, memory spikes to 100% this problem did not exist before the upgrade, can anyone assist?
[16:30] <sint> hey, how to stop a module from loading at boot time?
[16:30] <calum> I reckoned that tasksel would set it up for me as it ought to work without my breaking it during installation :-)
[16:30] <DualWolf> Hi guys, this is my first time using IRC.  I have a question, is there something I should do to ask a question?
[16:30] <ryuho-eeepc> i'm having trouble with SCIM not giving me an option other than English.. I have enabled other languages in the settings but still no luck
[16:30] <Toznoshio> sint, with "modprobe -r"
[16:30] <ryuho-eeepc> can anyone help me
[16:30] <jeaton_> what's a good program to convert avi, mp4 and etc. to dvd format?
[16:31] <zsquareplusc> calum: sorry, was afk. no you don't need to change permissions of /var/www when you added yourself to the group. however you may need to re login once to make the group chnage apply
[16:31] <Jaffarkelshac> DualWolf: simply ask the your question
[16:31] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: you could try re-installing vlc and trying. Or reboot before anything else.
[16:31] <Cige> so I have an occasional problem, sometimes my caps lock key toggles so that when the light is on caps is off and when the light is off caps is on
[16:31] <sint> Toznoshio: ya, this remove a loaded module, but it will be loaded next time i boot up my system. is there a way to prevent this?
[16:31] <alarond> DualWolf: yeah. ask.
[16:31] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: if the problem was with vlc it wouldn't extend to any video player would it?
[16:31] <Toznoshio> sint, only by recompiling the kernel
[16:31] <jackd> zsquareplusc: i fixed it. if you have the same problem like me one day, you should append in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config "GatewayPorts yes" :)
[16:32] <gnutron> calum: why would you un-install apache if you want to use it?
[16:32] <DualWolf> I recently installed ibm5250 from IBM and when I use Shift F9 in the application, it sends the application into la la land.  Is there a special function in Ubuntu 8.10 that I need to disable for it to work in the application?
[16:32] <calum> ah :)
[16:32] <Cige> I dont know much about program, how would I toggle the light without toggleing caps
[16:32] <sint> Toznoshio: really? i'm having a generic kernel. i never compiled it myself
[16:32] <calum> I think I may have misconfigured a file in it the setup of it gnutron :)
[16:33] <gaintsura> hey all, I've got ics setup via firestarter from my ppp device to eth0, but its not showing that any connection from the computer at eth0 is connecting to anything, does anyone have any ideas?
[16:33] <quizme> hello
[16:33] <Toznoshio> sint, then you're better off blacklisting that module
[16:33] <quizme> there is a shitload of people here
[16:33] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  no. a possible reason wud be incorrectly configured video codecs. are you using g-streamer sets? if yes, then go to synaptic, uninstall, re-install. better to re-boot system before this tho'.
[16:33] <sint> Toznoshio: how?
[16:33] <gnutron> calum: I see... well you don't want to change permissions unless you want a very vulnerable server.
[16:34] <Cige> How would I go about changing the light for the caps lock key when it becomes stuck in the opposite position, eg. when the light is OFF it types in caps
[16:34] <Cige> just sort of annoying
[16:34]  * Gandhi1 is Gandhi, who timed out.
[16:34] <darkvertex> gaintsura: have you enabled ip_forwarding?
[16:34] <calum> I am the only person that uses this machine and it is just for testing before putting onto the internet that I use it, gnutron.  The rest of those on the network are family.
[16:34] <ryuho-eeepc> what's the default foreign language input method  program for ubuntu (gnome)?
[16:34] <Toznoshio> sint, for an example, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[16:35]  * Gandhi1 Kicks Gandhi in the nuts. Timeout already.
[16:35] <sint> Toznoshio: ok, thanks :)
[16:35] <Bart_> Hi hi , can someone tell me how to fix the "opening 0 items" problem/
[16:35] <gaintsura> darkvertex: I thought I had... perhaps not, how can I check?
[16:35] <DualWolf> For ibm5250, I was able to use Shift+F9 on ubuntu 8.04 and I was wondering if this has a special function in 8.10 that needs to be turned off.
[16:35] <Cige> How would I go about changing the light for the caps lock key when it becomes stuck in the opposite position, eg. when the light is OFF it types in caps
[16:35] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: i'm not sure what sets i'm using.. i followed "how to" instructions when i went to install the codecs previously.. so i don't remember what i typed.. and whatever they were, at the time i was under a fresh 8.04 install which has been less that 2 months ago because i got my new computer then (this one)
[16:35] <calum> It is not like I am in an office.
[16:36] <darkvertex> try cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:36] <DualWolf> On the net, I found a bunch of stuff about some rain effect with Shift+F9 but nothing else.
[16:36] <Gandhi1> So, right, same problem; I am able to connect to the wireless network through windows on the same computer, and Xubuntu on another, but not through Ubuntu 8.10. I think the network manager is to blame. I need a solution that includes me saving something to a USB key or something.
[16:36] <quizme> anybody use fc2 here ?
[16:36] <quizme> is ubuntu 8.10 good for server side ?
[16:37] <alarond> Cige: lol. nice problem. :) did you try enabling caps lock LED in BIOS?
[16:37] <Jaffarkelshac> DualWolf: the rain effect is if you have compiz enabled.
[16:37] <gaintsura> darkvertex: all that returned was '1'
[16:37] <ne2k__> Cige: there's a command line program, can't remember the name
[16:37] <zsquareplusc> quizme: for a server you might consider 8.04/hardy as is has longer support (LTS) but both work fine for servers
[16:37] <zsquareplusc> ne2k__: setleds?
[16:38] <quizme> zsquareplusc: thanks. no cpanel though right?
[16:38] <Cige> ne2k__: can you at least point me in the right direction?
[16:38] <DualWolf> Hi Jaffarkelschac!  I am not familiar with compiz, is this something that I need to turn off?
[16:38] <Bart_> Nobody knows how to fix it?
[16:38] <darkvertex> gaintsura: ﻿ then it has been forwarded. Do you have masquerade on your iptables rules?
[16:38] <zsquareplusc> quizme: cpanel?
[16:38] <Jaffarkelshac> so when you press shift f9 do you get the rain effect? DualWolf
[16:38] <gaintsura> I disabled all my iptables rules except for whatever firestarter set
[16:38] <jayde_drag0n> ne2k__: dumb question, but in windows you can pull up an on screen keyboard, can you do the same in ubuntu? and if so, if you have caps lock ON there and it was OFF on your keyboard.. would the lights have switched?
[16:39] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  okay. Go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager. you'll be prompted to give your password
[16:39] <DualWolf> I tried Shift+F9 outside of the ibm5250 application to see if it has a special purpose, but it didn't do anything that I noticed.
[16:39] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: done
[16:39] <gaintsura> darkvertex: I did not see masquerade on my iptables rules.
[16:39] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  then at the search bar, type in 'gstreamer'
[16:39] <alarond> are they installed?
[16:40] <quizme> zsquareplusc: yeah
[16:40] <Cige> it's not a bios problem because it normally works, it just happens occasionally, usually when i've been working on a paper for a few hours
[16:40] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: some are, yes
[16:40] <darkvertex> gaintsura: you could also check route -n to see if routing enabled to diff networks
[16:40] <Jaffarkelshac> by default that key combination does not do anything except when configured in ccsm DualWolf
[16:40] <Cige> so I'm inclined to think that it is a software problem
[16:40] <klync> how can i save the state of aptitude before running `aptitude keep-all`, in case I want to restore it or just review the state?
[16:40] <Gandhi2> ARGH. If anyone replied to my question I missed it. Could you re-paste it?
[16:41] <DualWolf> Hmmp.  I also tried tn5250, which is an open source version of the emulator and that doesn't work either.  Which leads me to believe it's an Ubuntu thing.
[16:41] <DualWolf> I sent a request to IBM for assistance with no replay and I need this to keep a Linux only workstation at home.
[16:41] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: do i uninstall all of them?
[16:42] <alarond> no no
[16:42] <gaintsura> darkvertex: heres the pastebin from route -n and sudo iptables -L http://pastie.org/334018
[16:42] <Jaffarkelshac> i am not sure i get your problem, is the shift f9 supposed to do something that its not? DualWolf
[16:42] <darkvertex> gaintsura: let;s see
[16:42] <DualWolf> Shift+F9 is needed to debug application on the AS/400, iSeries, System i, IBM i; whatever the name of the month is...
[16:43] <DualWolf> When I try to execute this key combination, the emulator just runs like it's doing something, but never returns user interface control.
[16:43] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  okay. i'll ask you to re-install a common plug-in set. that'll do a fresh install.
[16:43] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  open the terminal.
[16:43] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: okee dokee.. opening the terminal
[16:44] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: sudo apt-get install what
[16:44] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[16:44] <Cige> oh well, it doesn't really matter because I can just typr lowercase with the caps light on
[16:44] <Jaffarkelshac> i am not sure how to help then, i am not familiar with this emulator, but shift f9 does not do anything special in ubuntu unless configured to do so  DualWolf
[16:45] <Shark_7-11> Hi. I have a smartphone running WM6, is there a way to get/sync my contacts on it ?
[16:45] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  su
[16:45] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  and sudo apt-get install mpg123
[16:45] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: some were already at their newest versions, and so weren't re-installed.. is that okay?
[16:45] <alarond> This would enable most of the popularly used codecs in the Totem Movie player which uses the GStreamer framework to play audio/video files.
[16:45] <DualWolf> Well, thanks for your feedback.  I'll follow up with IBM to see if they could help out.  I'd hate to have to dual boot on Windows for a single app....
[16:45] <jeaton> what's a good program that will allow me to covert avi and other formats over to dvd and burn them?
[16:45] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: the second one.. same.. already at its newest version
[16:46] <Jaffarkelshac> DualWolf: by they way, did you install this app from ubuntu repo
[16:46] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  that will not do. the prior installations have to be overwritten. please go to synaptic, uninstall the gstreamer codecs, then re-install.
[16:46] <DualWolf> I just did a fresh install on Ubuntu 8.10 and didn't monkey around too much with the settings, so everything should be at default setting with Shift+F9 and it doesn't work on ibm5250 or tn5250.
[16:46] <darkvertex> gaintsura: I don't see any gateway to 10.6.x.x. Besides do you own the entire 168.254.x.x net? I'm assuming this is meant to be your local network right?
[16:46] <DualWolf> No, I downloaded from IBM.  Converted the rpm to deb with alien and installed that.
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> DualWolf not the best choice
[16:47] <DualWolf> With tn5250, I used apt-get
[16:47] <darkvertex> gaintsura: where are the clients located? what ip addr?
[16:47] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: since i do not know the names of every codec, do i just uininstall the ones that said "already at newest version" or uninstall everything that says gstreamer
[16:47] <Maria-ES> Hello everyone, I was wondering - why does ubuntu have openarena version 0.7.7 when it has few servers and version 0.8.1 is out? Just curious =)
[16:47] <gaintsura> darkvertex: 10.6.x.x is my external connection, and 169.254.x.x is my internal network (eth0
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> DualWolf I have not worked on an as-400 in ages, but there were some keyboard tricks we had to use with some termnal emulators
[16:48] <DualWolf> Why is that not the best choice Jack_Sparrow?
[16:48] <wolfdart> I did a filter on FlexRSS (Deluge's plugin) for the Dexter show, but the filter match the "normal Dexter" and the "720p Dexter". I need get off the "720p"! So?
[16:48] <Dabbu> in synaptic if i search something..even though the name exist it will show no result...any help ?
[16:49] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  'already at newest version'. after that, type the commands into terminal again.
[16:49] <gaintsura> wolfdart: search "Dexter" AND NOT "720p"
[16:49] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: okay
[16:49] <DualWolf> Jack_Sparrow, yes I am very familiar with those.  Most commonly it's the enter key.  I tried checking the keyboard maps for the function keys and they all seem legit.
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !alien
[16:49] <zsquareplusc> Dabbu: sont use the quicksearch field and make sure it is empty
[16:49] <gnutron> Dabbu: be sure the 'All' sections are highlighted in the left pane, then search.
[16:49] <alarond> jayde_drag0n:  incidentally, which application is showing the 100% memory usage? like, what's the message like?
[16:50] <Dabbu> gnutron: i do that br quick search show no result..
[16:50] <darkvertex> gaintsura: IMO you should use 192.168.x.x for you internal net. Your ppp is directly connected to the internet right?
[16:50] <joshua__> hi
[16:50] <gaintsura> yes, ppp is directly connected
[16:50] <Green_if_it_was_> who ia joshua?
[16:50] <joshua__> this is cool
[16:50] <Jaffarkelshac> there is a tn5250 in the repo, i assumed that is the one you tried or was that also a rpm from ibm DualWolf
[16:50] <joshua__> sorry, just testing this out.
[16:51] <DualWolf> That's disappointing.  IBM boasts Linux support, but it's disappointing.  This isn't the first time.
[16:51] <darkvertex> gaintsura: so where is this 10.6.x.x located?
[16:51] <Green_if_it_was_> josh woolems?
[16:51] <joshua__> no, joshua wells
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[16:51] <gaintsura> darkvertex: 10.6.x.x is given from ppp0
[16:52] <joshua__> so, what is the general topic of discussion?
[16:52] <saurabh> how can i use my webcam in ubuntu
[16:52] <wolfdart> gaintsura, Hmm, doesn't match! The filter to all Dexter is "dexter.%sx%e". The "dexter.%sx%e AND NOT 720p" doesn't match the "normal Dexter"! =/
[16:52] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: did not fix the problem
[16:52] <saurabh> how can i use my webcam in ubuntu
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > joshua__
[16:52] <saurabh> hello
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[16:52] <joshua__> sudo apt-get install cheese
[16:52] <gnutron> Dabbu: click on 'sections' click on 'all' then do your search.
[16:52] <saurabh> yes
[16:53] <joshua__> i am gonna go, this was just a test to see what it does.
[16:53] <jason_> v
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:53] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: what message?? i open a movie.. currently i chose pushing daisies.. it opens in totem, like it always has.. but now instead of being smooth .. the video is choppy.. and the memory bar is maxxed
[16:53] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: i have system monitor in my top panel
[16:53] <gaintsura> darkvertex: am fixing the internal network address now, hold please =)
[16:54] <darkvertex> gaintsura: great. I'll wait ...
[16:54] <gaintsura> thanks
[16:54] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: okay. run any media. while running, type 'top' into the terminal
[16:54] <DualWolf> I used "apt-get install tn5250" to install the tn5250.
[16:54] <optx> hi does anyone here got x-fi extreme audio on ubuntu 8.10 running ?
[16:54] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: it should show the % memory usage of that process.
[16:55] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: totem cpu% 87.5  mem% 9.2
[16:55] <DualWolf> Is there a better way to convert rpm for install on ubuntu than alien?
[16:55] <ikonia> DualWolf best not to use rpm's at all
[16:56] <khakane> is there a decent command line app to post to usenet with?
[16:56] <ikonia> khakane pine can do usenet I think
[16:56] <gnutron> khakane: slrn
[16:56] <bazhang> !info pan
[16:56] <DualWolf> Then, maybe a request from IBM for a deb package might be the way to go?
[16:56] <gaintsura> darkvertex: ok, I changed them on both the windows box (192.168.1.3) and my box's eth0 (192.168.1.2)
[16:56] <bazhang> khakane, pan
[16:56] <quizme> good night
[16:57] <bazhang> oops terminal
[16:57] <DasEi> !compile | DualWolf
[16:57] <gaintsura> but still, to no avail, I have no connection on the windows box
[16:57] <gnutron> khakane: slrn is a command line usenet reader, easy to setup, pan is a GUI reader.
[16:57] <lasivian_> I need a version of Newsleecher for Ubuntu
[16:57] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: which is expected. top shows the correct usage and 9.2% is fine.
[16:57] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: one thing has changed tho.. now VLC is not at the top, and it wasn't choppy.. BUT i would like to fix totem if i can
[16:58] <YlandeFaran> I want to convert many .bmp files to .jpg. I rather not write the names of each and every one.
[16:58] <peter_> Good afternoon from Spain everybody. I have a question relating to Intrepid Ibex and the veeeeery sloooooow ripping of cds....Anyone else had the same issue?
[16:58] <darkvertex> gaintsura: see if you can ping both boxes to each other
[16:58] <YlandeFaran> How can I make a smooth command to do this?
[16:58] <gaintsura> ok, hold
[16:58] <DualWolf> Compiling from source.  I was hoping this wouldn't be an all day project.
[16:58] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: it is expected for totem to use between 85 and 95 percent of the cpu?
[16:59] <Photoguy> What is that bots name?
[16:59] <Scunizi> ubottu
[16:59] <DasEi> !brain | Photoguy
[16:59] <gaintsura> darkvertex: ping failed on both sides
[16:59] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: u said 9.2 right?
[16:59] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: 9.2% of mem.. not of cpu cpu varied between 85% and 95%
[16:59] <danielbw> i am having problems controlling the drag selection in openoffice
[17:00] <danielbw> it won't stop when i want it to
[17:00] <kevin__> YlandeFaran: you should check out imagemagick
[17:00] <danielbw> i mean openoffice calc
[17:00] <danielbw> i am using xinerama and four heads on the system
[17:00] <kevin__> YlandeFaran: specifically the mogrify command. it'll convert multiple images to another format with one command, renaming them too
[17:01] <darkvertex> gaintsura: so how are the hardware setup? I mean both boxes are connected to a switch/hub? And your linux box directly connected to the modem?
[17:01] <gaintsura> darkvertex: linux box directly connected to usb adapter (ppp0), ethernet crossover cable from linux box to windows box
[17:02] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: what is the PID of the process?
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !bridge
[17:02] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: now that we did those installs i know the problem was combined codecs/players.. NOW the problem is specifically a player problem.. totem.. totem uses a crap ton of processor  and VLC is only using like 10-18%
[17:02] <darkvertex> gaintsura: I see. How does route -n look on the linux box now?
[17:03] <skorasaurus> hi, how do I request that a package from jaunty (which has bug fixes) is released as an update to intrepid ?
[17:03] <tobor> hi, I have system (LTS 6.06) thats takingn 1:40 seconds to do the "mounting root file system" step at boot time.  IIRC this is much longer than it used to be.  Does any have an idea what it might be?
[17:03] <peter_> Anyone help me with the cd ripping problem? please feel free to pm me if you think that it would spoil the rhythm of the open channel
[17:03] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: 12958
[17:03] <gaintsura> darkvertex: http://pastie.org/334041
[17:03] <ikonia> skorasaurus as jaunty is not released yet you won't be getting any backports
[17:03] <DualWolf> Thanks for your feedback. I was hoping for a special Shift+F9 answer, but no luck.  I'm heading over to IBM.  Thanks!
[17:03] <ikonia> tobor slower response to dhcp, fsck,
[17:03] <DasEi> peter: which app do you use ?
[17:04] <peter_> I¡ve been using rhythmbox
[17:04] <tobor> ikonia: its got a static IP.  AFAIK its not doing any fsck.
[17:04] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: we'll renice the CPU priority of the process to 19. type 'r' in top. then u'll be asked to specify a renice value. put 19.
[17:04] <DasEi> peter: try k3b ,also see:
[17:04] <DasEi> !burn
[17:04] <ikonia> tobor usb devices taking a moment or two to discover
[17:04] <peter_> and I have the same prob with 64 bit and 32 bit, also hardy. Curiously suse 11 works just fine, but I can't stand kde4.1 yet
[17:04] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: totem shows 4.7% on my machine. lol, the usage IS over the top!
[17:05] <DasEi> peter: sudo apt-get install k3b
[17:05] <ne2k__> rhythmbox. seemingly great music player. but when I copy an album from a CD to my library, and then play it back, it has gaps between the tracks. I thought this was the 21st century?!
[17:05] <tobor> et multihost on
[17:05] <peter_> same prob with k3b too.....I wonder if its a kernel issue?
[17:05] <darkvertex> gaintsura: that looks better. But if you still cannot ping from the linux box to the windows one, then maybe you should check your crossover cable first
[17:05] <gaintsura> its a brand new cable
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> gaintsura what did you use to bridge the connection?
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> gaintsura Firestarter is popular for that purpose
[17:06] <gaintsura> I'm using firestarter to share the internet from linux to the eth0
[17:06] <nax> hi
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[17:06] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: okay.. was it suposed change?
[17:06] <azexian> ﻿hello, I'm getting this really annoying issue trying to get 3 monitors going. I've enabled the onboard gpu (as well as a normal gpu) and both display in lspci, without the onboard one enabled I can get a picture between the two on the normal gpu, with the onboard enabled (and setup in xorg.conf) it just loads up black, I can't ctrl+alt+f1 (or any others) and the only thing I can do is restart,, where can I see what's goin
[17:06] <ne2k__> gaintsura: you can't ping either one from either side? have you checked software firewall settings?
[17:06] <gaintsura> darkvertex: I use firestarter for sharing, and guarddog to maintain iptables, but currently guarddog is disabled
[17:06] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: yes.
[17:07] <gaintsura> ne2k__: yes, iptables on my side is clear, and there is no firewall on the windows system
[17:07] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: i think i'll just give up, uninstall totem.. and set all the videos to open in vlc.. but thats really a band-aid.. BUT if i don't see a problem anywhere else.. its a band-aid i can live with
[17:07] <DasEi> peter: could you paste your /etc/hdparm.conf ?
[17:07] <ne2k__> gaintsura: you should check with iptables -L that the iptables is actually clear
[17:07] <ne2k__> gaintsura: have you got the netmasks set correctly?
[17:07] <ne2k__> gaintsura: what is the output of arp -a?
[17:07] <darkvertex> gaintsura: I think the cilprit may be the cable itself. The cable (assuming its a category 5/6 type) should have a certain reverse sequence of colors.
[17:07] <gaintsura> its got a couple of lines in it ne2k__, but I can flush them.
[17:08] <peter_> sure dasei, but I thought that dma issues are no longer addressd thorugh hdparm?
[17:08] <darkvertex> *culprit
[17:08] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: hang around IRC. you
[17:08] <ne2k__> gaintsura: not if you're happy that they are not interfering
[17:08] <gaintsura> darkvertex: I'll double check that
[17:08] <alarond> jayde_drag0n: you'll get a more wise ubuntu-guide soon. :)
[17:08] <ne2k__> gaintsura: are you actually getting a link light on the NIC at both ends?
[17:08] <gaintsura> yes
[17:08] <gaintsura> firestarter wont start unless both connections are active
[17:08] <gaintsura> and windows says its connected
[17:09] <DasEi> peter: though I mostly still use hardy, my ibex doesn't do so, very slow dma is an idea
[17:09] <ne2k__> gaintsura: output of mii-tool?
[17:09] <azexian> ﻿I've got a problem trying to get 3 monitors going, I've setup xorg so it longer gives an xerror, but it just shows black on all screens when I startx now, the xorg log is error free, what else can I do?
[17:09] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: you were fine.. i just lack patience LOL.. cuz its either that or reinstall 8.04 and say screw ibex.. cuz this is the 2nd time i've had major issues with it on a system
[17:09] <da_> what MP3 players work with Linux
[17:09] <skorasaurus> so, i just wait for jaunty for the fixed bug ?
[17:09] <ne2k__> gaintsura: have you got more than one nic in each machine? have you definitely set the IP on the right nic?
[17:09] <gaintsura> sudo mii-tool: eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[17:09] <LjL> !players > da_    (da_, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:10] <ryuho-eeepc> i can't type japanese with uim (anthy) in xchat, but I can on other stuff.. anyone know what to do?
[17:10] <gaintsura> no multiple nics in either one
[17:10] <peter_> Well lets ahave a look anyway, DasEI, or should I say "the egg"
[17:10] <ne2k__> gaintsura: output of arp -a?
[17:10]  * thebinz is back (gone 21:19:51)
[17:10] <DasEi> peter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[17:10] <gaintsura> ne2k__: no output of arp -a
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> gaintsura You dont have two nics in your ubuntu box?
[17:10] <Neon_Stig> hey guys.. was wondering if I can get some help with installing ibex on an existing partition.. I've had a google and read and, with my raid setup it looks over complicated, and I don't want to loose what I have so,
[17:10] <gaintsura> no
[17:10] <ne2k__> gaintsura: have you changed the MAC address on either machine? do they have the same mac address?!
[17:10] <jayde_drag0n> alarond: thank you for helping tho
[17:10] <gaintsura> its a usb adapter thats ppp0, the nic is for the ics
[17:10] <Lancelot> do I need a special computer to use MythTV? (the tv aspect)
[17:11] <gaintsura> ne2k__: no, and no
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !mythtv
[17:11] <egoflux> can itunes import playlists from amarok?
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Lancelot the short answer is no
[17:11] <ne2k__> gaintsura: open two terminals side by side; run "tcpdump -n -i eth0 arp or icmp" in one "ping x.x.x.x" in the other
[17:11] <ne2k__> gaintsura: where x.x.x.x is the IP of your windows machine
[17:12] <Lancelot> okay, thank you, jack
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:12] <darkvertex> ne2k__: gaintsura has trouble pinging between his two boxes
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Lancelot see also linuxmce
[17:12] <Lancelot> okay, thanks ;)
[17:12] <ne2k__> darkvertex: I know. that is why I am trying to help him diagnose where the problem lies
[17:12] <ne2k__> darkvertex: what did you think I was talking about?
[17:13] <ryuho-eeepc> i can't type japanese with uim (anthy) in xchat or firefox, but I can on other stuff (gedit).. anyone know what to do?
[17:13] <darkvertex> ne2k__: if ping doesn't work, then it is superfluous to run tcpdump IMO
[17:13] <gaintsura> ne2k__: when I ping I get this: PING 192.168.1.3 (192.168.1.3) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[17:13] <ne2k__> darkvertex: no
[17:14] <gaintsura> and the first terminal (tcpdump) showed nothing
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ryuho-eeepc Are you running eeebuntu or regluar ubuntu?
[17:14] <ne2k__> gaintsura: and arp -a shows nothing?
[17:14] <ne2k__> gaintsura: are you running tcpdump as root?
[17:14] <ryuho-eeepc> umm jack-desktop eeebuntu
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc
[17:14] <ryuho-eeepc> do i not have some installs
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ryuho-eeepc Our japaneese channel may be of more help with that particular problem
[17:15] <ne2k__> darkvertex: it helps to know whether arp requests are being sent or not, and whether the reply is being received. quite a lot happens between typing ping and an ethernet frame coming out
[17:15] <Neon_Stig> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on an existing partition on a raid setup? I've tried the regular installer and it only recognises the two hard drives not the 3 partitions,
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[17:16] <ryuho-eeepc> Jack_Sparrow, but it's input for japanese, not the whole OS being japanese
[17:16] <darkvertex> ne2k__: your right on that, my mistake
[17:16] <ne2k__> darkvertex: np. I do this stuff for my job ;-)
[17:16] <dual> I'm having a problem with my microphone
[17:16] <tonyyarusso> My Gnome battery status panel applet and 'acpi -V' disagree on the time remaining, but claim the same charge percentage.  I believe acpi's estimate to be more correct.  How can I sync them?
[17:16] <dual> I can hear it on my loudspeakers, but I cant record it
[17:16] <darklord> hi
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ryuho-eeepc they would still be more likely to know..  or the people at EEE that created your version of Ubuntu
[17:16] <azexian> hello, I'm having problems getting 3 monitors working, xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/f7bc71285
[17:16] <darklord> ola
[17:17] <ryuho-eeepc> ic, thx
[17:17] <darklord> brazilian?
[17:17] <JustAnotherMark> Hi peeps. I'm trying to connect to a wireless network using Ubuntu 8.10 but failing. I am currently connected to the wireless network through windows on the same PC, can also connect to the network using Xubuntu. For this reason I thing the network manager is at fault and should try downloading a new one, save it to a USB key, install it and then try connecting again. Does anyone have any...
[17:17] <Neon_Stig> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks :)
[17:17] <JustAnotherMark> ...suggestions with respect to this?
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !br
[17:17] <dual> Does anyone know why I can hear my microphone from the speakers, but not record what I hear?
[17:18] <ne2k__> dual: the playback control and recording control are separate. you need to enable the microphone in the recording control to have it recorded, and in the playback control to have it come directly out of the speakers
[17:18] <rafting> How do I check what I need to get wireless working? It is very annoying not be able to have internet in Ubuntu since it makes changing other stuff very hard when I constanyl ahev to reboot and change to Vista.
[17:18] <rafting> wtf!?
[17:18] <rafting> How do I check what I need to get wireless working? It is very annoying not be able to have internet in Ubuntu since it makes changing other stuff very hard when I constanyl ahev to reboot and change to Vista.
[17:18] <FloodBot1> rafting: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <JustAnotherMark> rafting: I'm feeling that pain right now :s
[17:18] <dual> me2k_: Is that in the Alsa Mixer?
[17:19] <ne2k__> dual: any mixer will have both
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> rafting Please watch the repeating and dont swear , even in shorthand
[17:19] <rafting> flood?
[17:19] <rafting> w
[17:19] <egoflux> ubuntu didn't automatically install the wireless drivers??
[17:19] <egoflux> that sux
[17:19] <DasEi> !patiene | rafting
[17:19] <rafting> When I boot up Ubuntu and turn on the wireless it gets reecognized, it finds the netwrok and asks for authentification but then it never gets the key.
[17:19] <azexian> anyone? need some help getting 3 monitors going, currently just get black on all when I start (no xerrors) xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/f7bc71285
[17:19] <egoflux> ahh
[17:19] <rafting> so what is ther error then?
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> egoflux Even ubuntu cant install a driver if it does not exist
[17:20] <ne2k__> rafting: you said the exact same thing twice in a row with "wtf?!" in between, in the space of about ten seconds. that's flooding
[17:20] <gaintsura_> arrggg
[17:20] <JustAnotherMark> egoflux: There are wireless drivers and a network manager but it doesnt work properly. It's restricting the secruity protocols and not letting me connect.
[17:20] <DasEi> !patience | rafting
[17:20] <egoflux> rafting, check that you're using the correct WEP
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> rafting turn off security and see if you can connect.  SOme of the cards are marginally supported and will not do wep/wpa
[17:20] <DasEi> !wireless  | rafting
[17:20] <rafting> bot i didnt flood everything flooded
[17:20] <rafting> how?
[17:20] <gaintsura> ne2k__: I've missed the last 6 minutes of conversation if you've said anything
[17:21] <egoflux> check the router settings
[17:21] <rafting> how do I turn of the security?
[17:21] <JustAnotherMark> egoflux: It's not the router. I can connect through windows and through Xubuntu.
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> rafting You did flood..  I know you are stressed, but take a breath and have some patience
[17:21] <JustAnotherMark> egoflux: Just not Ubuntu 8.10
[17:21] <dual> me2k_: I found it, but is there a way to remove all the background noise?
[17:21] <DiiPhantom> how do i mount an .ISO image in ubuntu?
[17:21] <gnutron> rafting: try here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:22] <gaintsura> 'Screw patience... I'm going out to kill something'
[17:22] <egoflux> rafting, well that depends on the router you have
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[17:22] <egoflux> rafting, are you at home?
[17:22] <DiiPhantom> thank you
[17:22] <jeaton> what's a good program that will allow me to covert avi and other formats over to dvd and burn them?
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:22] <egoflux> if not, then ask IT
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !devede
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> drat..  who knows how to spell it
[17:22] <dual> My microphone makes a lot of background noise. Is there an easy way to remove it?
[17:23] <Hikefu> !devedee
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !deveede
[17:23] <JustAnotherMark> !devide
[17:23] <JustAnotherMark> :< hehe
[17:23] <rafting> yes at home
[17:23] <Photoguy> *divide
[17:23] <joachimATjku> how can i edit mount points in the gnome menu "Places"
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !find deved
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !info devede
[17:23] <Hikefu> !devede
[17:23] <LjL> !botabuse
[17:23] <egoflux> rafting, on a browser   192.168.1.1
[17:24] <JustAnotherMark> So... erm. Anyone know a way to replace the wireless network manager in Ubuntu without being connected to the internet? (ie download another one somewhere else?)
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL Y bad, sorry, I started it..
[17:24] <Photoguy> !blender
[17:24] <egoflux> if you've never used the router settings the password is admin
[17:24] <azexian> anyone? need help getting 3 screens going, xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/f7bc71285 results in 3 blanks screens, no errors
[17:24] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: happens to get a factoid wrong... doesn't mean everyone else should immediately follow suit
[17:24] <egoflux> go to wireless and look at the secutiry settings
[17:24] <fasta> Does hibernation already work on $NEWHARDWARE? And if so, how does it work?
[17:24] <joachimATjku> how can i edit mount points in the gnome menu "Places"
[17:25] <da_> What MP3 player works with Ubuntu?
[17:25] <tonyyarusso> fasta: "it depends" is always the answer.  Works fine on my Eee PC with ubuntu-eee tweaks (no idea if any of those affect hiberation).
[17:25] <joachimATjku> da_: amarok
[17:25] <DasEi> ﻿joachimATjku:you can either mount dev's manually or change fstab
[17:25] <da_> okay, ty
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> da_ almost any that are seen as a removeable drive..  aka.. the cheapies all seem to work
[17:25] <darkvertex> gaintsura: does your cable has the same sequence of colors on both ends?
[17:26] <incepator__> da_; Rytmbox
[17:26] <DasEi> ! mp3 | da_
[17:26] <tonyyarusso> da_: The Cowon line works like any USB mass storage device, and supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC.  http://www.cowonamerica.com/
[17:26] <da_> okay ty
[17:26] <fasta> tonyyarusso: I thought all the shiny features would work on new hardware, but I just tried it and it didn't seem to go and hibernate. The screen went off, but the machine was still on.
[17:26] <DasEi>  da_: amarok, vlc
[17:26] <fasta> tonyyarusso: the machine should power down, right?
[17:26] <joachimATjku> how can i edit mount points in the gnome menu "Places"
[17:26] <tonyyarusso> fasta: yup
[17:26] <DiiPhantom> can i just burn it? :)
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> joachimATjku See what they told you above
[17:27] <fasta> tonyyarusso: is there anything that one should configure in the BIOS or whatever?
[17:27] <gaintsura> darkvertex: no it doesnot, the orange and green are swapped
[17:27] <DiiPhantom> i mean burn the .iso in linux?
[17:27] <Hikefu> joachimATjku, make bookmarks in nautilus
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> DiiPhantom right click iso and write to disk
[17:27] <tonyyarusso> fasta: not generally - check Launchpad and the forums for kernel bug reports for your model and see if anyone else has a reported a solution.
[17:27] <macjason0607> guys .. there a very easy to setup vnc server that dosen't require a lot of configureing ??
[17:27] <joachimATjku> Hikefu: id rather prefer a "menu entry" in the Computer section
[17:27] <da_> okay ty
[17:27] <fasta> tonyyarusso: yes, I already see there is a bug reported, and that guy even upgraded his BIOS.
[17:27] <DasEi> ﻿DiiPhantom: u can use k3b for that , amongst others
[17:28] <DiiPhantom> i mean not burn it as data, burn it so it can boot from it
[17:28] <DiiPhantom> ty DasEi
[17:28] <DasEi> np
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> DiiPhantom yes, right click
[17:28] <DasEi> !burn > DiiPhantom
[17:28] <scientes> te fwbuilder package in intrepid is ancient
[17:28] <darkvertex> gaintsura: that's good. but the tcpdump and arp commands return no result? that's weird. do you have a cable tester nearby?
[17:28] <DasEi> md5sum > Dii
[17:28] <fasta> tonyyarusso: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/219675 <- very long list
[17:28] <scientes> and doesnt have ipv6 which releases do
[17:28] <gaintsura> darkvertex: no I don't
[17:28] <tonyyarusso> fasta: then just subscribe to the bug so you know what happens with it
[17:28] <DiiPhantom> ty ty ty
[17:28] <cody> Does anyone know a good software KM switch that works between Ubunto and Windows? Is there one?
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> scientes the repos will never have the current releases
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> cody KVM, I use a belkin
[17:29] <DasEi> cody : KM switch ?
[17:29] <joachimATjku> Hikefu: there are allready mount entrys in the Places menu under "Computer" ...want to know where they come from...i.e: where can i edit them
[17:29] <scientes> but it wal released over 3 months ago
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> joachimATjku and we said  FSTAB
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> scientes if you want to discuss it.. try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:30] <darkvertex> gaintsura: could borrow another crossover cable from someone? that would help, for comparison sake.
[17:30] <cody> Keyboard/Mouse only, Treats multiple computers as seperate monitors connected to one machine essentially. eg. you can move your mouse off the left side of the screen to another monitor with windows on it and use it there
[17:30] <scientes> k
[17:30] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: hey there!
[17:30] <joachimATjku> Jack_Sparrow:  /etc/fstab does not show these entries ....allready looked it up
[17:30] <Seveas> hi
[17:30] <zsquareplusc> cody: x2vnc/x2x/win2x is a software solultion if you have 2 mionitors but like only one kb and mouse
[17:30] <tonyyarusso> cody: synergy might do that
[17:30] <cody> zsquareplusc: I'll take a look, I'm just looking for a KM, not a KVM :)
[17:31] <fasta> tonyyarusso: how long does hibernation take on $newhardware?
[17:31] <Lancelot> vlc is having playback trouble, any ideas?
[17:31] <DasEi> ﻿Jack_Sparrow: I just reqd codys last post ,there's a soft-solution ??
[17:31] <ne2k__> darkvertex: tbh, almost all NIC these days are auto-negotiating, so it probably wouldn't matter if it was a straight cable. mii-tool is reporting there is a link anyway
[17:31] <fasta> tonyyarusso: Imagine 2GB of RAM being used.
[17:31] <tonyyarusso> fasta: depends on the speed of your hard drive
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !twinview
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[17:32] <darkvertex> ne2k__: ahhh, I guess I'm old school (in a bad way :()
[17:32] <fasta> tonyyarusso: can I query that information somewhere?
[17:32] <DiiPhantom> im used to chat with webcam, does amsn have webcam support?
[17:32] <fasta> tonyyarusso: I didn't build this machine.
[17:32] <cody> Searching for Synergy KM pulled up a good list on wikipedia, Here's the link for anyone interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KM_software
[17:32] <afallenhope|work> DiiPhantom,  yes it does
[17:32] <DiiPhantom> how come i dont see it? where is it? :)
[17:32] <ne2k__> gaintsura: you have a weird problem
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !info amsn
[17:33] <gaintsura> darkvertex: all I have is patch cables
[17:33] <ne2k__> gaintsura: the problem appears to be software related, as you say that tcpdump is reporting that no arp or icmp packets are being sent in or out
[17:33] <ne2k__> gaintsura: try running the tcpdump again and then try pinging from the other end
[17:34] <fasta> tonyyarusso: ok, how long does it take on your machine?
[17:34] <truent> anyone else have a problem in hardy heron with xbox 360 wired controller not working anymore?.. used to be supported by xpad.. now not so much it seems
[17:34] <tonyyarusso> fasta: lshw might tell you something about the drive.  For me it's probably like 10-15 seconds.
[17:34] <truent> or anyone know it works in ibex?
[17:34] <ne2k__> gaintsura: failing that, try "tcpdump -n -i eth0" to show all traffic going in and out
[17:34] <ne2k__> gaintsura: (not just arp and icmp)
[17:34] <ph8> can anyone tell me how i can install my own gnome-screensaver?
[17:34] <gaintsura> ne2k__: yes, I know its a weird problem, I had it working before but that was wifi to ethernet, this is ppp to ethernet, which I haven't tried before
[17:35] <gaintsura> ok, hold on ne2k__
[17:35] <afallenhope|work> has anyone had any success with a nVidia GeForce 7300GT for Dual Monitor (split)? perhaps compiz?
[17:35] <ne2k__> gaintsura: it seems that the internet connection sharing is not the issue. you just can't get from one machine to the other.
[17:35] <zimbres> in what directory a file will be generated for printing?
[17:35] <slayton> is there any reason to believe that a 64bit raid array would have problems if mounted under a 32bit os?
[17:36] <slayton> a raid array created under 64bit
[17:36] <ne2k__> slayton: what is a 32bit os?
[17:36] <tonyyarusso> slayton: I don't think so.  Filesystem *should* be the only issue.
[17:36] <Marky> Would anyone happen to have any sugestions for replacing the wireless network manager in Ubuntu 8.10? It needs to be something I can download and then transfer using a USB key
[17:36] <tdreyer1> is there any reason i cant (or shouldn't) install a program from source to my /home/me/whatever folder?
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[17:37] <slayton> ne2k__, 32bit vs 64bit os?   the standard OS is 32bit and the newer oses are 64bit
[17:37] <fasta> tonyyarusso: it's a WD3200AAKS-7 , but I cannot find the datasheet for it.
[17:37] <gaintsura> ne2k__: ok, now that tcp command is actually turning out information when I ping from the windows box
[17:37] <ne2k__> tdreyer1: you can quite happily install programs into your home directory. I used to do it all the time on shared PCs at college, so I could compile my own software and run it on any college PC
[17:38] <ne2k__> gaintsura: can you pastebin the output, please?
[17:38] <gaintsura> sure
[17:38] <tdreyer1> ne2k__: awesome, thanks!
[17:38] <sipior> tdreyer1: as long as you don't mind fetching updates for it manually, and assuming it does not have a truckload of library dependencies. it can be handy, especially for keeping multiple versions for testing purposes.
[17:39] <zimbres> in what directory a file will be generated for printing?
[17:39] <tdreyer1> sipior: thanks, good points
[17:39] <ne2k__> tdreyer1: basically every program that's half-way decent has a script called "configure" in the root of the source archive, and you should study the options to that to work out what you need to do. normally you can just set PREFIX=/home/me. if you need to compile against custom libraries, for example, you should change LIB_DIR (I think it's called that) to /home/me/lib/ etc.
[17:39] <Photoguy> !terminal
[17:39] <gaintsura> ne2k__: http://pastie.org/334092
[17:39] <ne2k__> gaintsura: remind me which ip is which?
[17:39] <SamuraiSW> does anyone know if firefox encrypts the saved passwords
[17:40] <karan> can someone help me here wid some proxy settings ??
[17:40] <gaintsura> ne2k__: 192.168.1.2 is linux, 192.168.1.3 is windows
[17:40] <tdreyer1> ne2k__: gotcha, thanks
[17:40] <gaintsura> brbish
[17:40] <CelticLord> le peuple :)
[17:40] <slayton> if boot a 32bit liveCD what will I have to install to read a raid array created under 64bit ubuntu?
[17:40] <ne2k__> gaintsura: in both cases this is the tcpdump output from the linux box? you haven't run tcpdump on the windows machine?
[17:40] <afallenhope|work> has anyone had any success with a nVidia GeForce 7300GT for Dual Monitor (split)? perhaps compiz?
[17:40] <karan> help needed wid sum proxy settings ..
[17:41] <gaintsura> ne2k__: no, I have not run tcpdump from the windows machine
[17:41] <dominic_f> afternoon/morning.  Can anyone suggest a preferred wasy to do some outbound traffic shaping in 8.10?  I *assumed* i would use ipfw but this appears no longer to be part of the default repositories.  Is TC the way to go?
[17:41] <karan> neone ??
[17:41] <Ralesk> hi; does anyone know where I could look at ubuntu/debian package definitions?  kinda like the source rpms for fedora and opensuse.  I definitely do not mean a packaging tutorial, nor do I mean the installable binary packages.
[17:41] <gaintsura> karan: it may help if you spoke halfway proper english =)
[17:42] <Manther> Hey guys, I'm an Ubuntu newbie and need a bit of technical help...
[17:42] <karan> giantsura: sure ... thanks neways ...
[17:42] <dominic_f> karan - what help do you need?
[17:43] <roadfish> does any Ubuntu media players handle iPod videos?
[17:43] <joachimATjku> Anybody here who knows how i can edit the System default mount points under Gnome Menu => Places => Computer => WinPartition / DataPartition (want to add a new one)
[17:43] <Manther> Everytime I run the Update manager is says: E: 'dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:43] <Manther> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.'
[17:43] <ne2k__> gaintsura: well we can tell that linux is correctly sending out arp who-has messages, and that windows is responding. this proves the cable is good. linux, however, then appears to be ignoring that and not sending the ping. and from the other way round, linux does not appear to be responding to windows's arp who-has
[17:43] <afallenhope|work> roadfish, have you tried vlc
[17:43] <karan> giantsura : i'm stayin in a hostel ... so the servers would'nt let us log into orkut n other sites ...
[17:43] <gaintsura> ne2k__: how do I flush IPtables again? I think this could be part of that
[17:43] <gaintsura> karan: hidemyass.com
[17:43] <afallenhope|work> gaintsura, sudo iptables -F
[17:44] <gaintsura> thanks
[17:44] <Manther> Help? I tried running 'dpkg --configure -a' in a terminal but  it says I need superuser rights...how do I get that?
[17:44] <ne2k__> gaintsura: I'm pretty sure that linux has some sort of software situation that is stopping network traffic. try completely clearing all iptables rules in all tables
[17:44] <slayton> Does anybody know if the liveCD can mount Raid Arrays?
[17:44] <Hikefu> Manther, run the command in the terminal to correct the problem. Sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:44] <ne2k__> afallenhope|work: does that clear all tables or just the filter table?
[17:44] <Hikefu> Manther, sudo I mean
[17:44] <afallenhope|work> ne2k__, it's to flush all the tables
[17:44] <karan> giantsura : i tried using proxy sites but it prompts that you are attemptin to open a url translation site ..
[17:45] <Manther> Hikefu: Ok I'll try it
[17:45] <Hikefu> Manther, sudo dpkg --configure -a will do the trick.
[17:45] <tonyyarusso> slayton: not without a bit of work, but it's technically possible.
[17:45] <karan> giantsura : can't i install some app maybe or change some settings of the web browser ?
[17:45] <roadfish> afallenhope: ok, I'll have to give vlc a try. I was debating downloading a large iPod video (on dial-up) ... I suppose that I should download something smaller from YouTube first. I tried a year ago but all I got from mplayer was some randomly-colored blocks.
[17:45] <slayton> tonyyarusso, what packages would I need to install?
[17:45] <ne2k__> afallenhope|work: the docs says it clears all chains in the selected table, and that without a -t option, it will select the filter table. so presumably it won't clear chains in the nat, mangle and raw tables
[17:46] <edju> dumb question of the month time -- is it possible to format an ipod fat32 under linux?  (ducks and hides).
[17:46] <ne2k__> I need to go home, so if I was helping you, sorry, I can no longer continue.
[17:46] <karan> giantsura : u there ?
[17:46] <knut> anybody know a good guide for installing global menu on 8.10?
[17:46] <ne2k__> karan: lol, it's gaintsura, not GIANT-SURA!
[17:46] <olimpico> Hello, I just installed intrepid on my EEEPC
[17:47] <olimpico> Everything works except the wireless
[17:47] <olimpico> But the card is recognized
[17:47] <olimpico> THe module is loaded
[17:47] <karan> gaintsura : u there .. ?
[17:47] <olimpico> But how do I tell that to the network manager in Gnome?
[17:47] <karan> ne2k_ : thnx budd..
[17:47] <dominic_f> anyone got a suggestion for the best  approach to traffic shaping outbound from an Intrepid install?
[17:48] <tonyyarusso> slayton: mdadm for sure, but beyond that I don't know.  try /msg ubottu raid
[17:48] <afallenhope|work> ne2k__, -F, --flush [chain]
[17:48] <slayton> tonyyarusso, thanks
[17:48] <tonyyarusso> olimpico: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes if you haven't already
[17:48] <karan> gaintsura : what if i install some app. maybe or change some proxy settings of my browser ?
[17:49] <Manther> Hikefu:Thanks, it worked!
[17:49] <Maveas> A good screen recorder to make a movie etc. a video guide how to install or program etc. ?
[17:49] <olimpico> I already did, I installed the EEEPC-intrepid kernel
[17:49] <olimpico> The wlan is recognized
[17:49] <Manther> Hikefu: Ahh, now it says that I have 'broken' an update or something like that and I need to use the 'broken filter'... :(
[17:49] <olimpico> The problem is that the network manager in gnome doesn't noticed
[17:50] <karan> need sum help with the proxy settings ... neone there .. ??
[17:50] <dominic_f> what help do you need karan?
[17:50] <olimpico> How do I tell the Network Manager in Gnome that the Wlan is working?
[17:50] <Manther> Karan: What help do you need?
[17:50] <dominic_f> snap
[17:51] <SamuraiSW> Is there a roboform program for linux?
[17:51] <karan> dominic_f : i'm connected to the net via our hostels server ... n i can't open sites like orkut or any proxy sites ...
[17:51] <afallenhope|work> has anyone had any success with a nVidia GeForce 7300GT for Dual Monitor (split)? perhaps compiz?
[17:52] <zimbres> in what directory a file will be generated for printing?
[17:52] <karan> manther : i'm connected to the net via our hostels server ... n i can't open sites like orkut or any proxy sites ...
[17:52] <ne2k__> afallenhope|work: and?
[17:52] <Photoguy> !language support
[17:52] <Photoguy> !language
[17:52] <Photoguy> Idiot bot!
[17:52] <MrCollins> I have 2 things I need help with.  I have a dvd of some home movies I need to edit. it is in DVD format. What is the best way for me to A: convert the dvd files to a format that can be edited and converted to avi and to rip the audio from the dvd? All I need is a good howto. Can someone point me to a good howto on this? I am running Intrepid 8.10
[17:53] <dominic_f> karan - what proxy sites are you trying?
[17:53] <Hikefu> karan, you can install https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/125
[17:53] <karan> dominic_f : which ever i try to open .. it displays a page " The site u r tryin to acess is an url translation site " ..
[17:53] <chfwiggum> !kerberos
[17:54] <MrCollins> !video editing
[17:54] <MrCollins> !video
[17:54] <karan> Hikefu : thnx .. i'll give it a try ..
[17:54] <Kotleta> ku
[17:54] <Ax-Ax> !de
[17:55] <MrCollins> ardchoille, hi
[17:55] <Hikefu> karan, there are sites like freeproxyserver.net that might help too. You just input the sites url and go from there.
[17:55] <MrCollins> !cinelerra
[17:56] <afallenhope|work> has anyone had any success with a nVidia GeForce 7300GT for Dual Monitor (split)? perhaps compiz?
[17:56] <karan> Hikefu : when i try that .. it displays a blank page sayin that the site u r tryin to acess is a url translation site ...
[17:56] <SamuraiSW> is there a file eraser for linux?
[17:56] <ardchoille> MrCollins: Hi :)
[17:56] <SamuraiSW> sorry a wipe utilitiy
[17:56] <LjL> !info wipe > SamuraiSW
[17:57] <LjL> !info shred > SamuraiSW
[17:57] <MrCollins> ardchoille, how have you been?
[17:57] <balle_> how do i activate the virtual desktop in wine?
[17:57] <LjL> SamuraiSW: oh, there's also "shred" anyway, but not sure which package it's in. just type "shred" on your console.
[17:57] <Photoguy> How do I quickly switch between typed languages?
[17:57] <nei1> has anyone else had a problem updating fiesty? basically the fiesty directory at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ has disappeared. Same problem with other mirrors.
[17:57] <karan> Hikefu , can u help me configure the switch proxy tool ?
[17:57] <dominic_f> karan - sounds to me like you're on someones private network (did you say hostel?).  If they don't want you to access certain sites then I'm not sure I feel comfortable helping you bypass it..... Sorry :-)
[17:57] <afallenhope|work> karan, it literally says: "The site U are TRYIN to acess is an url translation sit"
[17:57] <sysdoc> !host file
[17:57] <sysdoc> 1host
[17:57] <sysdoc> !host
[17:57] <gaintsura_> errrrrrg
[17:58] <gaintsura_> ne2k__: did you see my last messages?
[17:58] <MrCollins> ardchoille, do you do any video editing?
[17:58] <jonicache> yes fallen hope
[17:58] <karan> dominic_f : they don't let u open orkut or even facebook ...
[17:58] <ardchoille> MrCollins: no
[17:58] <gaintsura> karan: maybe you should just deal with it and go down to the local library
[17:59] <balle_> does anyone know how to activate the wine virtual desktop?
[17:59] <DiiPhantom> anyone knows how to install xfire in ubuntu?
[17:59] <dp> I'm trying to use soundconvert.pl (from the soundconvert package) in 8.10, and it keeps telling me that these perl modules that are required are not installed, even though they are.  a friend on 8.04 doesn't have this problem.  can anyone help?
[17:59] <sysdoc> Hey guys I need to tweak how my box accesses a domain while the DNS propagates. In Windohs it is the host file what is the equivelent in Linux?
[17:59] <dominic_f> sysdoc - /etc/host
[17:59] <sysdoc> dominic_f, thanks
[17:59] <Hikefu> karan, give me a sec. i might have a workaround.
[17:59] <j0nr> evenin
[17:59] <mudit> how can i scan which package using a port ?
[18:00] <j0nr> evenin
[18:00] <dominic_f> sysdoc - sorrry   .... /etc/hosts
[18:00] <karan> gaintsura : see on  windows u can install a software to bypass it ... what can i do on ubuntu ?
[18:00] <sipior> mudit: we talking network ports here?
[18:00] <mudit> yes
[18:00] <sysdoc> dominic_f, got it thanks
[18:01] <j0nr> when rebooting ubuntu, keyring thingy keeps wanting my old password to unlock network manager... why is this and how can i correct it, as sometimes i reboot remotely. Thanks
[18:01] <sipior> mudit: the -p switch for netstat will show that, though you'll need to have root privileges
[18:01] <edju> in order for amarok to recognize an ipod, is it necessary for the ipod to be formatted fat32, or will enabling HFSPLUS in the kernel do it?
[18:01] <mudit> tcp6       0      0 :::8080                 :::*                    LISTEN      6031/jsvc   ?
[18:01] <jimi_> hello
[18:02] <sipior> mudit: 6031 is the process id
[18:02] <gaintsura> karan: same idea.. there is privoxy/tor/vidalia for both windows/linux, and there are sites like hidemyass.com
[18:02] <karan> giantsura , proxy sites don't open ...
[18:02] <mudit> so what can be the package ?
[18:03] <jimi_> i've got a light problem with cron and ssmtp. Somebody can help me ?
[18:03] <j0nr> when rebooting ubuntu, keyring thingy keeps wanting my old password to unlock network manager... why is this and how can i correct it, as sometimes i reboot remotely. Thanks
[18:03] <sipior> mudit: once you have the process name, try searching for the package with dpkg -S <program name>
[18:04] <savant> What's a dvd-ripping utility similar to Apple's handbreak, on ubuntu?
[18:04] <savant> Preferrably gtk centric
[18:05] <balle_> how can i run my other partion (windows) in a virtual desktop under intrepid ipex?'
[18:05] <gaintsura> ne2k__: when I turn off firestarter, flush iptables and restart firestarter it fills the iptables with a ton of rules
[18:05] <balle_> how can i run my other partion (windows) in a virtual desktop under intrepid ipex? i'm using wine
[18:05] <sipior> savant: i believe the handbrake people just released a gui version of their tool for linux
[18:05] <sysdoc> balle_, vmware server...
[18:05] <mudit> i wonder what is jsvc
[18:05] <gaintsura> !info jsvc
[18:06] <gaintsura> ^_^
[18:06] <dp> !info soundconvert
[18:06] <balle_> sysdoc: you can't do it in wine or what?
[18:06] <afallenhope|work> has anyone had any success with a nVidia GeForce 7300GT for Dual Monitor (split)? perhaps compiz?
[18:07] <sysdoc> balle_, ummm no. VMWare
[18:07] <balle_> !vmware
[18:07] <Xubu> Hello Again
[18:07] <balle_> !VirtualBox
[18:08] <balle_> !QEmu
[18:08] <BenAshton24> hi
[18:08] <dominic_f> second !Virtualbox
[18:08] <Xubu> Does anyone know how I debian from hard disk can install without CD?
[18:08] <sysdoc> balle_, booting the windohs partition really isn't a good idea. Better to create a VM of the Windohs install and then boot it the usual way
[18:09] <sipior> Xubu: the debian folks have tons of documentation on non-standard installs at their web site. best to start there, i think.
[18:09] <balle_> sysdoc: yea i know, it is to try to salvage my windows partition because it is a bit f'ed up
[18:10] <limecat> is there a way to have a folder shared between linux and windows, but with one subfolder different on each?
[18:10] <jonicache> yes lime cat
[18:11] <Xubu> Can you give me a link miss them if you want to supior Easter?
[18:11] <Arron> When you download a program and its in a .jar format how can you install that into the system like a .deb file rather than just running it directly?
[18:11] <sysdoc> balle_, then use the VMWare Converter to create the Vm of the Windohs install >> http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/
[18:12] <balle_> sysdoc: thx i think that will cover it greatly!
[18:12] <sysdoc> balle_, I just did this method and it worked great
[18:12] <sysdoc> Running XP in a VM as we speak
[18:12] <balle_> sysdoc: thx i'm trying it out now
[18:12] <Arron> Arron: When you download a program and its in a .jar format how can you install that into the system like a .deb file rather than just running it directly?
[18:13] <sysdoc> balle_, have any questions just pm me
[18:13] <Arron> Hello??
[18:13] <limecat> jonicache: how would i do it?  what im trying to do is have World of warcraft work on both vista and linux, but i need one settings file to be different, the settings are stored in a settings folder
[18:13] <balle_> sysdoc: great thx and is it free btw? i see the user registration
[18:13] <Arron> :-X
[18:13] <devcow> after updating von 8.04 to 8.10 my skype application crashes when i use the video feature. without it no problem. anybody an idea?
[18:14] <Arron> OMG HELLO REPLY REPLY REPLY!
[18:14] <Arron> When you download a program and its in a .jar format how can you install that into the system like a .deb file rather than just running it directly?V
[18:14] <sipior> Arron: can you find the exit on your own?
[18:14] <Arron> 1437 in the chat room and no one can respond?
[18:14] <sipior> limecat:
[18:14] <zsquareplusc> Arron: no one probably has an answer... well i don't have one. you can put it in /usr/local/bin and write a wrapper to start it.
[18:14] <sipior> Arron: no one knows the answer, or no one cares about your question.
[18:14] <Scunizi> limecat: most settings on linux for your install stuff are in hidden directories in your /home directory.. Open Places>Home and then ctrl+h to reveal the hidden directories.. they start with a period (.)..
[18:15] <Arron> Oh how kind :D
[18:15] <Arron> I dont really care about you but anyway I shall have a try
[18:15] <Arron> What is a wrapper
[18:15] <limecat> Scunizi: i know where the settings file is, its stored in WoWinstallfolder\wtf\account.wtf
[18:15] <zsquareplusc> !who | Arron
[18:15] <sipior> limecat: i don't see how you could do what you ask.
[18:15] <Arron> Oooh okay
[18:16] <Arron> Im new you see to Linux im a windows.com person
[18:16] <limecat> is there a way to make transparent folder links so that MOST of the subfolders are shared, but the main folder and the settings folder were stored on the linux drive?
[18:16] <sipior> limecat: both the exporting system and the remote, mounting system need to agree on the contents of a filesystem. you might be able to trick your linux install with symbolic links.
[18:16] <zsquareplusc> Arron: a wrapper would be a 2 line shell script with #!/bin/sh and java -jar your.jar  as contents. that in /usr/local/bin and you can run your program as a command
[18:16] <sysdoc> Arron, welcome to the real world, lol
[18:17] <mikethk> I just dl and extracted songbird but i dont know how to install it?
[18:17] <unop> Arron, you'll need to create a .deb package - see the Debian Package Maintainer's guide
[18:17] <Arron> unop THANKYOU :D
[18:17] <dmsuperman> Is there a command-line way to connect/configure a PPTP VPN connection for Ubuntu? I wnat to connect to work.
[18:17] <Scunizi> limecat: sorry joined the channel late and didn't have access to any of your previous posts..
[18:17] <Arron> smart alicks :d
[18:18] <unop> Arron, not being funny - but that's where you need to look
[18:18] <Arron> I know
[18:18] <Arron> I am
[18:18] <Arron> Im being serious saying thankyou
[18:19] <al3x-admin> Hi all, I have a problem with the KBluetooth4 package. I open konsole, and run it, but it just crashes with signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I'm on Kubuntu 8.10 amd64 + 2.6.27.10-generic + KDE 4.2 beta1
[18:19] <juanez> Arron: you dont install jar files
[18:19] <Arron> Wowa Ubuntu sure aint user friendly
[18:19] <juanez> Arron: not in linux, and not in windows
[18:19] <Arron> I know you dont
[18:19] <macjason0607> hmm..
[18:19] <Jaffarkelshac> Arron: what program are you trying to install?
[18:19] <macjason0607> im getting tired of kubuntu
[18:19] <macjason0607> to many bugs
[18:19] <Arron> It was phex
[18:19] <macjason0607> any one agree ?
[18:19] <juanez> Arron: so why would you want to create a .deb of a jar?
[18:19] <juanez> Arron: there's no point in doing so
[18:20] <Arron> Well the program wont run without the multiple .jar fiels in the folder
[18:20] <juanez> (as there's no point in creating .exe files of java jar files eihter.. :S )
[18:20] <Arron> *files
[18:20] <Scunizi> Arron: for someone weened on linux I suppose Windows would be viewed as no user friendly
[18:20] <Arron> I want it all together like an exe
[18:20] <Scunizi> *not
[18:20] <Arron> Windows not user friendly? thats insane
[18:20] <juanez> Arron: well, that's not how java works. not in linux, and not in windows
[18:21] <juanez> Arron: however, you can create a sh wrapper script
[18:21] <Jaffarkelshac> have you tried wine with phex for windows Arron
[18:21] <Arron> Yess I am aware thankyou I know you can extract jar files then compile them again?
[18:21] <unop> juanez,  that's like saying - there's no point in creating a .deb file for any package .. a .deb gives you the advantage of using the contents as a package that can be maintained by APT
[18:21] <Arron> Wine I havnt although I have heard of it
[18:21] <juanez> Arron: well, most likely they are already compiled. a JAR file is most often a zip archive of compiled java classes
[18:22] <Arron> I have always been with windows you see so Im just trying something different but the majority of programs are not for linux :/
[18:22] <pneves> Hello everyone, I'm having some trouble with clutter gtk. It won't work in a firefox plugin window. The refresh doesn't work. It only shows the first frame and then freezes. Could someone  tell me what I could do to resolve this. The same code works fine in a regular app just not in firefox.
[18:22] <juanez> Arron: there sure are alternatives though ;)
[18:22] <Jaffarkelshac> i use wine with utorrent it works fine, not sure about phex never used it Arron . I am sure there alternatives to the programs you want.
[18:23] <limecat> Arron: i may be wrong, but dont you typically just install java and then doubleclick the jar?
[18:23] <Arron> Like frostwire and all that yeah
[18:23] <Arron> I dont like using them "top" known p2p programs
[18:23] <Scunizi> !p2p | Arron
[18:24] <Scunizi> not to mention Transmission
[18:24] <Arron> I just would like to use my usuall windows application in linux maybe I should give wine a try right? But I dont really want this I want native apps form ubuntu
[18:24] <NoSound321> Hello. I have an issue with Pulseaudio, it's working incorrectly. Is there a way to disable Pulseaudio and work through the default alsa driver?
[18:24] <juanez> Arron: maybe you shoudl stick with windows then?
[18:25] <limecat> Arron: it depends.  If you MUST have windows programs but want linux, wine is fine for many things'
[18:25] <juanez> NoSound321: yes :)
[18:25] <Arron> Yeah but I want to use linux
[18:25] <Arron> well not forever but get knowledge
[18:25] <limecat> but native is generally "better", it works easier, its auto updated, etc, and doesnt break when wine gets bugs'
[18:25] <juanez> Arron: so stop trolling and use Wine or a linux alternative application
[18:25] <NoSound321> juanez yaay, help me plz :)
[18:25] <Arron> how am I trolling??
[18:25] <limecat> juanez: i dont think hes trolling
[18:26] <joshritger> is there a value I can edit in the configuration editor that will speed up the autohiding of a panel
[18:26] <Arron> Hmm thats a Im fed up cant be bothered talking line
[18:26] <juanez> NoSound321: uhm, lemme see what i did
[18:26] <sipior> limecat: regarding your earlier question, you could probably set up your linux WoW install to look at a local directory, and then create a series of symbolic links from this configuration folder to the real installation, mounted on the windows share. the only directory that would not be a symbolic link would be the configuration directory you want.
[18:26] <Jaffarkelshac> Arron its unlikely you will get exactly the software you want with native apps for ubuntu. i even have virtual xp to run some apps (channel 40d and veoh...etc) try wine if does not work you search for more
[18:26] <sipior> limecat: that *should* work...
[18:26] <Arron> mhm yeah okay
[18:26] <ChaosTheory_> Hello. I am wondering, what is the replacement for nm-applet under TTY? How can I use it?
[18:27] <Arron> Im installing wine now I also wanted to try out osx on a pc
[18:27] <limecat> Arron: what program are you trying to run anyways
[18:27] <Arron> Well I guess office will be easy with wine right?
[18:28] <limecat> office MAY work'
[18:28] <Arron> Then phex and just see what will work
[18:28] <Arron> Why is there a chance it wont?
[18:28] <Arron> I thought it emulates windows?
[18:28] <limecat> Arron: i recommend openoffice or another alternative unless you HAVE to use office--theres a chance because wine isnt perfect
[18:28] <Jaffarkelshac> 2007 not soo much, i use openoffice Arron
[18:29] <Arron> Open office yeah but it looks urgrr ugly and untidy and crap
[18:29] <limecat> wine is in development constantly, and generally works well, but some programs dont work
[18:29] <Arron> not very professional
[18:29] <Arron> thats what ubuntu seem to look childish
[18:29] <chfwiggum> anyone got some preferred links to howtos about kerberos krb5, por favor? tia
[18:30] <Arron> oh a quicky aswell how do I find memory cpu usage?
[18:30] <joaopinto> Arron, on the terminal run: top
[18:30] <Jaffarkelshac> if i may ask, why do you want to use ubuntu anyway, you seem so resistant to anything thats not windows. you can use top in terminal or gnome-system-monitor
[18:31] <sysdoc> Arron, System>Administration>System Monitor
[18:31] <Arron> Im not resistant Im just confused really I feel like an idiot I would speak to over the phone trying to fix there pc
[18:31] <juanez> Arron sure is trolling
[18:32] <Arron> ? Why do you keep saying that im new I have no idea am I breaking a rule?
[18:32] <limecat> Arron isnt trolling, quit being a jackass juanez
[18:32] <sysdoc> lol
[18:32] <Arron> you crazy as a wedge!
[18:32]  * sipior goes for popcorn
[18:32] <CaMason> Is anyone able to get some kind of terminal bell working when using ubuntu via virtualbox?
[18:32] <Jaffarkelshac> it just takes time to get used to ubuntu and its apps Arron
[18:32] <juanez> [19:29:14] <Arron> not very professional
[18:32] <juanez> [19:29:30] <Arron> thats what ubuntu seem to look childish
[18:32] <limecat> juanez: your comments dont help.  Hes new from windows and learning the ropes, and youre being hostile
[18:33] <Arron> I agree :)
[18:33] <amortvigil> can i make vmware starting a virtual pc in unity and with the startup in background?
[18:33] <juanez> fine. enjoy the ride
[18:33] <Jaffarkelshac> did wine help with your phex problem
[18:33] <douwei> does anyone know what you have to do to get sound working in ubuntu through virtualbox
[18:33] <Arron> Im going to download it now and figure the setup out Im just looking at system monitor atm
[18:33] <limecat> i dont think alienating people who are giving ubuntu a shot is helpful for the community
[18:34] <sipior> limecat: let it go.
[18:34] <zsquareplusc> douwei: it works for me, when i enable sound for the virtual machine and select pulseaudio as driver
[18:34] <Arron> oh sorry if Im asking to many questions :(
[18:34] <Arron> I tend to do that alot
[18:34] <Jaffarkelshac> thats what this is for
[18:35] <Photoguy> How can I tell if my Ubuntu is the 64 bit version?
[18:35] <douwei> how do you select pulseaudio for the driver?
[18:35] <sysdoc> Asking questions, lol for shame!
[18:35] <zsquareplusc> Photoguy: run uname -a
[18:35] <Photoguy> From terminal?
[18:35] <zsquareplusc> Photoguy: is there a x84_65 or i686? yes in  a terminal
[18:35] <Arron> well then I was using a synth app but the sound wasnt coming through I didnt see any setup options to configure a soundcard yet rythm box runs fine
[18:35] <Iesos> Want to know how to add an existing user to an existing group in a commandline
[18:36] <Iesos> preserving old groups
[18:36] <Photoguy> It says command not found
[18:36] <zsquareplusc> Iesos: adduser user gorup
[18:36] <MBuntu> hi! I'm trying to install ubuntu, but my monitor says "out of range" after switching to X.
[18:36] <Scunizi> douwei: before trying to mess with ubuntu's sound setup make sure that you have virtualbox set to pass sound from a vm to your system.. #vbox is a good channel for vbox support
[18:36] <zsquareplusc> Photoguy: "uname -a"  or "uname -m"?
[18:37] <Photoguy> neither
[18:37] <Photoguy> Work
[18:37] <Photoguy> "bask: command not found:
[18:37] <Photoguy> "
[18:37] <Iesos> zsquareplusc, nope, just gives me the help?
[18:37] <Arron> has this version of ubuntu fixed the issues with the nvidia graphics card
[18:37] <Arron> driver
[18:37] <xat_> does anyone here have an idea of how to create a static /dev setup rather than relying on udev on boot?
[18:37] <zsquareplusc> Photoguy: you have a gnome-terminal open with a user@machine$  prompt?
[18:38] <Photoguy> ues
[18:38] <Arron> I installed it on my laptop but I had graphics card issues and had to manuall command
[18:38] <jimmy__> hi guys, I am trying to set up tv-out. I have ubuntu 8.10. It is working, but not showing th entire screen on the TV, something to do with resolution? Any thoughts? Thanks!
[18:38] <Photoguy> *yes
[18:38] <Arron> yay :) good
[18:38] <Photoguy> Oh, I have sysinfor
[18:38] <Lancelot> what's the best video player for ubuntu? VLC doesn't really work for me...
[18:38] <juanez> Lancelot: mplayer is good
[18:38] <Arron> vlc is the best
[18:38] <Photoguy> it says...i486
[18:38] <ikonia> Lancelot: try some see which work for you
[18:38] <juanez> Lancelot: xbmc is a great app too
[18:38] <Jaffarkelshac> gnome-mplayer Lancelot is my weapon of choice
[18:38] <zsquareplusc> Iesos: it works for me. you need to run the tool with sudo (as root).
[18:38] <cristimarineru> m player ( my opinion
[18:39] <gaintsura> hmm, I have my firewall setup to allow icmp ping requests to be sent to the internal network, but its still rejecting them...
[18:39] <Lancelot> okay, thank you guys :)
[18:39] <Iesos> zsquareplusc, yes, I did...
[18:39] <juanez> xbmc is really slick too. but more like a media-pc-app
[18:39] <Arron> setting up gmail on evolution imap.gmail.com right?
[18:39] <ikonia> gaintsura: drop the firewall and make sure it's your firewall thats causing hte issue
[18:39] <ikonia> Arron: gmail has the settings on the website
[18:39] <zsquareplusc> Iesos: if it prints help, something on the command line is wrong. did you also look at the man page? "man adduser"?
[18:40] <Jaffarkelshac> is there anyway to install the previous version of vlc, this new on in ibex is not very good.  (black screen at video startup, terrible when searching with status slide)
[18:40] <ikonia> Jaffarkelshac: not really
[18:40] <MBuntu> is there any chance to start the non-graphical installer from the desktop-cd?
[18:40] <ikonia> Jaffarkelshac: packages are built to be "current" wit h the current version
[18:40] <ikonia> MBuntu: no
[18:40] <joaopinto> MBuntu, there is no text installer on the desktop cd
[18:40] <Arron> okay shall check them out
[18:40] <Jaffarkelshac> ah well, i will stick with gnome-mplayer
[18:41] <juanez> Jaffarkelshac: not w/o a great deal of pain im afraid
[18:41] <Huffameg> hi! i have a problem playing videos in my browser.. normally it works allright (youtube, surfthechannel etc) but on certain sites all I get is a black square saying (no video).. anyone who knows what the problem might be?
[18:41] <kansan> question:
[18:41] <Photoguy> i486 means 32 bit?
[18:41] <MBuntu> is there any chance to change the xorg-settings after booting the life system?
[18:41] <magdale> hi...can u help me? fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdc1...what mena???
[18:41] <juanez> Jaffarkelshac: you could remove it, and build an older version from source, or "manually" install the older .deb
[18:41] <ikonia> Photoguy: it does
[18:41] <kansan> is there a gui diff tool for ubuntu hardy?
[18:41] <ikonia> MBuntu: sure
[18:41] <ikonia> kansan: gdiff
[18:41] <MBuntu> ikonia: That sounds good
[18:41] <zsquareplusc> Photoguy: i dont know where you would get 468 (and not 386 or 686) but yes, thats 32 bits
[18:41] <ikonia> juanez: you can't install the older deb
[18:41] <TJ-42> my typing in firefox 3 in ubuntu 8.10 64bit has decided to be backwards... what might cause this?
[18:41] <Jaffarkelshac> that would be too much trouble, i have an alternative working for me juanez
[18:41] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: why do you want 486
[18:42] <juanez> ikonia: really ?
[18:42] <ikonia> juanez: nope, dependencies won't match,
[18:42] <cristimarineru> did someone know if videomate u900 ( usb tv tuner ) its compatible with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[18:42] <calc> intrepid OOo 3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1 being built atm, will be uploaded in a few hours
[18:42] <juanez> ikonia: you can hack the dep's
[18:42] <forester> Hi, does ubuntu >=8.04 support a Dell wireless 1395 802 11g mini card? Is there a list of supported hardware? Thanks!!
[18:42] <ikonia> juanez: no you can't
[18:42] <ikonia> juanez: you have to rebuild them
[18:42] <juanez> ikonia: but of course, you may be out of luck if they *really* mismatch
[18:42] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: i want what? i just never saw 486 in the output of uname recently
[18:42] <joaopinto> kansan, try xxdiff
[18:43] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: because there is no 486 kernel
[18:43] <gaintsura> ikonia: I disabled the firewall and ping is still timing out /giving 'destination unreachable'
[18:43] <ikonia> juajoa better option
[18:43] <ikonia> gaintsura: so you know it's not the firewall then
[18:43] <kansan>  ikonia doesnt exist; do you mean mgdiff?
[18:43] <chfwiggum> !krb5
[18:43] <ikonia> kansan: there is a tool called gdiff, may not be in the repos
[18:43] <zsquareplusc> ikonia: right, so if he wants to know which arch he is running, 486 is not the answer..
[18:43] <ikonia> zsquareplusc: no it's 32bit
[18:44] <Arron> Correct me if im wrong but ive heard its possible to run osx apps on linux? as it uses the same kernal?
[18:44] <Jaffarkelshac> forester: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[18:44] <ikonia> Arron: doesn't use the same kernel
[18:44] <ikonia> Arron: os X apps are not intended for the linux desktop target
[18:44] <Arron> so theres no way?
[18:44] <forester> Jaffarkelshac: Thanks!
[18:44] <joaopinto> Arron, no
[18:45] <limecat> Arron: osx uses a bsd kernel, linux doesnt'
[18:45] <limecat> i think
[18:45] <Arron> grr It sounds stupid but osx apps are pretty cool the only way to run them seems to be spending a fortune on a mac or running osx on a pc that ive never had any luck with
[18:45] <joaopinto> limecat, linux is a kernel it does not "use"  a kernel ;)
[18:46] <ikonia> Arron: OS X is for mac hardware
[18:46] <Arron> you can emulated it thought as its possible to run it on a pc
[18:46] <Arron> its been done
[18:46] <ikonia> Arron: thats illegal
[18:46] <Arron> educational wise
[18:46] <Scunizi> Arron: to see lots of what's available with just a couple clicks go to System>Admin>Synaptic Package Manager... in there you can look at everything that has been prepackaged for Ubuntu and also search by keyword or by catagory.. It's nice to cruz it occationally.
[18:46] <ikonia> illegal
[18:46] <limecat> Arron: i think youll find that many linux apps are cool as hell too ;) check amarok, or compiz, or any gpanel apps
[18:46] <ikonia> Arron: education doesn't make it legal
[18:47] <Arron> does it matter as long as your learning?
[18:47] <Scunizi> yes
[18:47] <Arron> im sure most kids are going to go out and buy windows
[18:47] <Arron> be reasonable
[18:47] <Jaffarkelshac> what is the channel for ubuntu bot that suggest apps? i cant remember
[18:47] <joaopinto> ikonia, is is not that clear that it is illegal yet, that is still on courts and there is no decision, anyway, this is turning offtopic :)
[18:47] <ikonia> Arron: it matters because it's illega, so please stop talking abou tit
[18:47]  * Scunizi is learning how to break into houses with practice.. that legal because I'm just learning.
[18:48] <zsquareplusc> Jaffarkelshac: bestbot in #ubuntu-bots ?
[18:48] <Arron> flipping heck
[18:48] <Jaffarkelshac> thats the one zsquareplusc
[18:48] <Jaffarkelshac> thanks
[18:49] <Arron> over 60% of windows is pirated
[18:49] <ikonia> Arron: enough
[18:49] <ikonia> Arron: it doesn't change anything
[18:49] <Arron> did you know and a fact pirc
[18:49] <Arron> *piracy helps?
[18:49] <Arron> large organisations
[18:49] <ikonia> Arron: am I not being clear about sayign "stop"
[18:49] <WANNABE_> hey, i have windows in momment but i want install ubuntu mas i dont care remove my windows partition to install ubuntu how i need make?
[18:50] <Arron> ikonia *kiss*
[18:50] <ikonia> Arron: ?
[18:50] <Arron> you need some love
[18:50] <Arron> so im giving it to you
[18:50] <BenAshton24> hi
[18:50] <joaopinto> WANNABE_, you just need to use the desktop cd, and select to use the entire disk on the partitioning phase
[18:50] <Jaffarkelshac> they have volume lincensing for organisations arron
[18:50] <scientes> should i upgrade my router/server to  intrepid?
[18:50] <Scunizi> Arron: you're pushing it..
[18:50] <Scunizi> scientes: from what?
[18:50] <Arron> Im sorry but since I came on your so vicous and attacking limecat seems to be the only helpful one!
[18:50] <scientes> hardy
[18:51] <BenAshton24> hi
[18:51] <ikonia> Arron: no-one is attacking you
[18:51] <joaopinto> scientes, that is your decision :) if it  is running fine there is no reason to upgrade, assuming your are using hardy which is LTS
[18:51] <zsquareplusc> scientes: hardy is LTS, so if you dont like upgrading every 6 moths, stick with hardy for a server.
[18:51] <Arron> I see why people dont use ubuntu the support is dreadful!
[18:51] <Scunizi> scientes: hardy is LTS.. if this is a production machine no.. if you're just playing around .. go for it.
[18:51] <Arron> your like omgggg illegal etc etc
[18:51] <Arron> omg troll
[18:51] <Arron> etc
[18:51] <high-freq> lol
[18:51] <Scunizi> !ot | Arron
[18:51] <joaopinto> Arron, actually you are misinformed, a lot of people use Ubuntu, because they can get real support here, instead of random chat about macosx :)
[18:52] <Arron> im not a mac user anyway!
[18:52] <high-freq> is it bad to have 2 wireless nics workin at same time on same puter on same router?
[18:52] <scientes> how do i unpeg packages from the command line
[18:52] <juanez> ... :)
[18:52] <joaopinto> high-freq, as far as I know there is nothing "bad" on that
[18:52] <psusi> high-freq: it doesn't seem like it would be at all useful to do
[18:52] <joaopinto> scientes, unpeg ??
[18:52] <DjViper> scientes: unpeg?
[18:52] <Scunizi> scientes: unpeg?
[18:52] <DjViper> LOL
[18:52] <zsquareplusc> scientes: dpkg -i *.deb?
[18:52] <scientes> lol, unlock the version
[18:53] <DjViper> tar -zxvf *.tar.gz
[18:53] <DjViper> oh
[18:53] <high-freq> ya logged in and both nics decided to login to router lol...i mean i can shut one off but didn't know when pulling up firefox or irc which nic its using
[18:53] <Jaffarkelshac> thats why people think you are trolling your chat is not a question or a support nature Arron. anything aside from this needs to be in offtopic
[18:53] <joaopinto> high-freq, that depends on your routing configuration
[18:53] <high-freq> tru
[18:53] <psusi> joaopinto: depending on the radios involved, having two of them right next to each other in one machine could cause their amplifiers to get swamped by the overpowering transmissions from the other, resulting in loss of signal
[18:54] <high-freq> never setup routing info besides on my AP
[18:54] <psusi> high-freq: why do you even have two wireless nics installed in one machine?
[18:54] <synaptix> !pulseaudioinfection
[18:54] <synaptix> !removepulse
[18:54] <ozzloy> how do i bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC on boot?
[18:54] <synaptix> !removepulseaudio
[18:54] <synaptix> :(
[18:54] <joaopinto> psusi, ok, I should had more attention on my telecom discipline :P
[18:55] <synaptix> !pulseaudio
[18:55] <synaptix> no no no
[18:55] <joaopinto> ozzloy, if I am not mistaken that is called "bonding"
[18:55] <joaopinto> oh wait
[18:55] <joaopinto> you mean multiple ips on same card
[18:55] <joaopinto> you just need to setup a static device, with ethN:N
[18:55] <cristimarineru> did anyone try cedega on 8.10 ? some opinions please
[18:56] <joaopinto> cristimarineru, better ask on offtopic
[18:56] <high-freq> psusi, testing purposes ;)
[18:56] <ozzloy> joaopinto: where are the networking files located in ubuntu?
[18:56] <joaopinto> ozzloy, if you are not using network manager it's /etc/network/interfaces
[18:57] <lamur> hey guys
[18:57] <psusi> high-freq: I would suggest not doing that... just use one
[18:57] <joaopinto> I think NM does not use the interfaces file, I am not sure
[18:57] <eydaimon> How can I check to see if a HD has problems? fsck? anything else?
[18:57] <joaopinto> eydaimon, fsck or if you are afraid of bad sectores, run the badblocks command
[18:57] <psusi> eydaimon: you can try using smartctl in the smartmontools packge
[18:58] <eydaimon> psusi: thanks
[18:58] <high-freq> psusi, ya aint no biggie..its workin lol...i'll turn one off later for security purposes
[18:58] <eydaimon> joaopinto: thanks
[18:58] <synaptix> ok, maybe there's somebody here who can answer this question, if you wouldn't mind:
[18:58] <lamur> hey guys
[18:58] <synaptix> is the /system/preferences/sound mentioned in the pulseaudio wiki page for removal from hardy, a gnome-specific thing?
[18:58] <ozzloy> how would i do this with network manager?
[18:58] <DiiPhantom> just now i was playing unrealtournament99, and it window sized, and i could not move mouse, type, nothing, after pressing all butoms ubunto like loggout out
[18:59] <DiiPhantom> how i do that again?
[18:59] <BenAshton24> f
[18:59] <eydaimon> excellent response time, I wish I had that everytime I was wondering something :)
[18:59] <chfwiggum> !nfs
[19:00] <mmaher> !debian
[19:00] <DiiPhantom> anyone?
[19:01] <joaopinto> !anyone | DiiPhantom
[19:01] <DiiPhantom> i did
[19:01] <joaopinto> DiiPhantom, is that using wine ?
[19:01] <detective> !canonicle
[19:01] <DiiPhantom> no straight ubuntu
[19:01] <Pici> !canonical
[19:01] <synaptix> Hello: the pulseaudio wiki page for removal from Hardy mentions /system/preferences/sound. This doesn't exist in any way I can see
[19:02] <synaptix> is this something Gnome-specific?
[19:02] <lamur> hey guys
[19:02] <DiiPhantom> idk maybe its just keys im using conflict with ubuntu
[19:02] <DiiPhantom> ty anyways
[19:02] <rogan> is it safe to delete this dir? http://pastebin.com/m24018e86 I was clearing up some space on my hdd and ran xdiskutility and found the .cache folder thats hiden
[19:02] <DIL> is there a program (gui) that will show the progress of concatenating a file
[19:02] <joaopinto> rogan, it's a cache area for those apps, should be safe
[19:03] <rogan> joaopinto thx
[19:03] <goaCeu> Ohh shit
[19:03] <joaopinto> DIL, thats a very unusual operation to be performed on a gui...
[19:03] <ubendu> !Mark
[19:03] <synaptix> I am sure hundreds of people must ask about pulseaudio removal. Can anyone remember this particular question coming up before?
[19:03] <goaCeu> joaopinto whatahell??
[19:03] <ikonia> goaCeu: please control your language
[19:03] <joaopinto> !language | goaCeu
[19:03] <DIL> joaopinto: yes
[19:03] <magnetron> DIL→ how large are these files that you are concatenating? it should be a pretty quick operation
[19:03] <goaCeu> ikonia  ok ok my frind, srry! ^^
[19:03] <ikonia> goaCeu: no problem
[19:03] <goaCeu> !language
[19:04] <synaptix> it would be kind of awesome if my ubuntu system didn't monopolise my computer with brokenness for the week as well as the weekend
[19:04] <Schadow> how/where do I get more software sources
[19:04] <DIL> magnetron: 11 2gb segments
[19:04] <jaufi> anyone know where to find a good smooth dock for gnome?
[19:04] <lamur> do you guys know how i can read a ntfs hordrive with ubuntu
[19:04] <synaptix> and I am really really trying to stick with it.
[19:04] <synaptix> but no?
[19:04] <magnetron> !ntfs-3g | lamur
[19:04] <synaptix> yeah, cheers.
[19:04] <MetalliMyers> hai u guise
[19:05] <joaopinto> synaptix, what is your problem ?
[19:05] <Wixicy> Hai gais!
[19:05] <synaptix> the wiki page for removal from hardy mentions /system/preferences/sound. This path does not exist on my Hardy system
[19:06] <synaptix> is it a path? is it some kind of guide through the gui?
[19:06] <lamur> oke thnxmagnatron and ubotto
[19:06] <synaptix> and if so, is it specific to some particular DE?
[19:06] <joaopinto> synaptix, that looks a gconf path
[19:06] <joaopinto> its specific to gnome apps, which use gconf
[19:06] <darkvertex> synaptix: it refers to ubuntu menu
[19:07] <joaopinto> oh, thats a menu path, sorry, it looked a gconf path
[19:07] <synaptix> so it's either a gconf path of referse to the menu?
[19:07] <synaptix> ah, ok :)
[19:07] <synaptix> it looks very very like a path path, you know.
[19:07] <MetalliMyers> hello, I'm new to linux
[19:07] <joaopinto> synaptix, since it's a wiki page, you can improve it ;)
[19:08] <synaptix> I had guessed it might not be
[19:08] <Jaffarkelshac> welcome MetalliMyers
[19:08] <synaptix> hang on though, now you raise gconf, if I drop pulseaudio, am I likely to need to change any sound settings fot apps taht use gconf?
[19:08] <MetalliMyers> thanks
[19:09] <joaopinto> synaptix, no, they should provide an interface in case you need to specify the sound server
[19:09] <synaptix> ah yeah, that makes sense
[19:10] <rafting> Im so sick of this
[19:10] <synaptix> OK, thanks
[19:10] <rafting> it seems impossible to get going with wireless on ubuntu
[19:10] <joaopinto> rafting, some wifi cars are known to be problematic
[19:10] <synaptix> now to try and find out any kde-specific stuff in #kubuntu
[19:10] <joaopinto> cards
[19:10] <sproingie> is there a recommended hotkey program/applet for creating new hotkeys?
[19:10] <synaptix> thanks - you appreciate I need to ask about what I guess is gnome-specific in #ubuntu main, and am not just being an idiot ;)
[19:11] <redrebel> how do I show only directories with 'ls'
[19:11] <sachael> anyone know a utility for mass lyrics download?
[19:11] <rafting> when it asks for wpa authenificatoom I pu the password. there is a show password button. I press it and then it is another password shown than the one I filled in! why!??????????????????+
[19:11] <darkvertex> redrebel: ls -ld?
[19:12] <joaopinto> rafting, it shows you the encrypted password, that is not a problem, the problem is that it's showing you the password prompt again because it is unable to authenticate
[19:12] <redrebel> 'ls -ld' doest work
[19:12] <redrebel> only show me (.)
[19:12] <joaopinto> redrebel, that means you have no other directories there
[19:12] <MetalliMyers> what is another busy channel on this server?
[19:12] <badawi> redrebel: ls -l | grep '^d'
[19:12] <joaopinto> ops wait, ignor eme :P
[19:12] <badawi> redrebel: or find . -type f
[19:13] <badawi> oops
[19:13] <badawi> redrebel: or find . -type d
[19:13] <MetalliMyers> I'm testing an irc client
[19:13] <unop> redrebel,  ls -ld *
[19:13] <bullgard4> In Rhythmbox > Musik markiere ich ein Musikstück im größten Feld rechts unten > Rechtsklick > (Eigenschaften von ...) > Grundlegend > Genre: Den vorgegebenen Eintrag 'Unbekannt' kann ich nicht durch einen anderen überschreiben. Woran liegt das?
[19:13] <joaopinto> ls -ld * will also show files
[19:13] <payload> MetalliMyers: #debian ^^
[19:13] <joaopinto> find it's safer
[19:13] <redrebel> find . -type d and  ls -l | grep '^d' works!
[19:13] <zsquareplusc> !de | bullgard4
[19:13] <redrebel> thanx
[19:14] <unop> find . -type d  will recurse  -maxdepth 1 is needed if it has to behave like ls
[19:15] <rafting> joaopinto: ok and why is it unable to authenticate?
[19:15] <badawi> redrebel: man gawk to see the possibilites of getting column 8 only
[19:15] <joaopinto> rafting, check /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log
[19:16] <NicEXE> I am trying to make a launcher that launches that file /media/400GB/jDownloader/JDownloader.jar what is the exact command?
[19:16] <redrebel> is it safe to clear a log file with '> file.log' while the process writing to it is running??
[19:16] <rafting> joaopinto: foe what?
[19:16] <zsquareplusc> NicEXE: i think  java -jar yourjar
[19:16] <joaopinto> NicEXE, java -jar file.jar
[19:16] <dfrank> hello All, tell me please, what should i do: i have a directory which can't be removed or listed containings files: if i try to do something of it, process become zombie
[19:16] <joaopinto> redrebel, yes, it is
[19:16] <ikonia> rafting: can do
[19:16] <ikonia> ops
[19:17] <ikonia> redrebel: ^
[19:17] <synaptix> thank you very much joaopinto and darkvertex
[19:17] <joaopinto> dfrank, what error do you get when you try to remove it ?
[19:17] <darkvertex> synaptix: you're welvome
[19:17] <Jaffarkelshac> ubuntu-offtopic MetalliMyers
[19:17] <dfrank> joaopinto: no error, just no response
[19:17] <Static-->  /set irc_conf_mode on
[19:18] <joaopinto> dfrank, have you tried to delete it from the terminal ?
[19:18] <synaptix> right, these "rustlin" and "ocean" sounds are going to blow my speakers any moment, so I'm just going to aptitude remove pulseaudio
[19:18] <synaptix> :(
[19:18] <NicEXE> zsquareplusc, joaopinto: thanx. it worked!
[19:18] <dfrank> joaopinto: yes, i tried from terminal only (i have SSH access to server)
[19:18] <joaopinto> dfgas, and it hands while removing with rm ?
[19:18] <joaopinto> hangs
[19:19] <synaptix> woah... it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[19:19] <joaopinto> synaptix, that is a meta package, it will not remove it's contents
[19:19] <synaptix> does that package work both ways? ie will it pull off everything it brought with it?
[19:19] <joaopinto> it means you are removing one package which is part of the ubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <synaptix> ah ok then
[19:19] <joaopinto> synaptix, yes, it will
[19:20] <joaopinto> erm, I mean, no, not for the removal, just in case you need to reinstall the base desktop packages
[19:20] <Static--> look at the size, its like 44kb. it wont hurt anything
[19:20] <zsquareplusc> it just hurts the upgrade to the next ubuntu release ;-)
[19:20] <Static--> its a dummy package
[19:20] <synaptix> hurts in what way?
[19:20] <joaopinto> synaptix, if there are upgrades specific to ubuntu-desktop, like a new package added to it on the upgrade, you will not get it
[19:21] <synaptix> I suppose the metapackage won't be there to upgrade everything that's needed
[19:21] <zsquareplusc> when the next release includes new applications for the desktop, they wong get installed as you removed the meta package
[19:21] <synaptix> ( if you call them metapackages over here )
[19:21] <synaptix> I suppose I could reinstall it as part of my upgrade plan
[19:21] <comicinker> when I try to login into a www-server via ssh, I receive the error message "Could not chdir to home directory ....". How can I immidiately change to /www ?
[19:21] <George_> is anyone having problems with google talk?
[19:21] <joaopinto> comicinker, cd /www ?
[19:21] <synaptix> better than this nonsense - I'm not keeping pulseaudio, I'm afraid :)
[19:21] <synaptix> right, I have a plan. Thanks
[19:22] <zsquareplusc> synaptix: whats not working?
[19:22] <joaopinto> Genesis^, is there a google talk client that works on Ubuntu ?
[19:22] <comicinker> when I try to login into a www-server via ssh, I receive the error message "Could not chdir to home directory ....". How can I immidiately change to /www during login?
[19:22] <joaopinto> comicinker, cd /www
[19:22] <synaptix> I'll survive with kubuntu-desktop in the long run
[19:22] <joaopinto> comicinker, assuming you do get a login prompt
[19:22] <synaptix> zsquareplusc: almost everything that uses sound
[19:23] <zsquareplusc> synaptix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[19:23] <joaopinto> comicinker, if you do not, you can't fix it, you will need to login with another user, or doing a local login
[19:23] <comicinker> joaopinto: yes. I am. ssh user@server.com 'cd /www' doesn't help
[19:23] <juanez> joaopinto: centerim is google-talk enabled
[19:23] <Wixicy> Hai gais!
[19:23] <Wixicy> I has problem with computoor
[19:23] <synaptix> zsquareplusc: I'd rather just have my old sound system, which was perfectly functional for me in every way
[19:23] <joaopinto> comicinker, if ssh is kicking you on login, it's because for security reasons it requires you to have an existing home dir, and you can't workaround that
[19:24] <synaptix> than invest my free time in fixing something that addresses problems that...
[19:24] <synaptix> ...that don't seem to really exist
[19:24] <Wixicy> Can anyone help me with a font?
[19:24] <zsquareplusc> synaptix: i think you can easily configure all the apps to use ALSA and disable pulseaudio in the session
[19:24] <ghismo> guys i have some troubles with flash player: youtube suddenly stops! since the last update amsn and amule don't run!
[19:24] <sharms> synaptix: and I would rather spend my time discussing that in the proper places
[19:25] <synaptix> sharms: this is #ubuntu, a support channel
[19:25] <comicinker> joaopinto: If I use a gui for file management, I can login because I can change the default directory when logging in.
[19:25] <synaptix> my problem is "pulseaudio broke my sound"
[19:25] <joaopinto> comicinker, you mean an ftp client ?
[19:25] <Wixicy> I have a problem with Ubuntu 8.10, can anyone help me?
[19:25] <comicinker> joaopinto: yes
[19:25] <redrebel> is this the command I would use to delete all directories older then 3 days??     find . -mtime +3 -type d -exec -fr {} \
[19:26] <DigitalFiz> Wixicy, not if you dont ask the question
[19:26] <redrebel> want to make sure I don't delete anything else
[19:26] <Wixicy> Oh
[19:26] <ghismo> how i can solve that?
[19:26] <joaopinto> comicinker, ftp does not relay on ssh for the authentication, your ftp server may allows you to login regardless if you have an home dir or not, that does not mean sshd will do it
[19:26] <synaptix> zsquareplusc: All the gamers I know who use ubuntu have had lots of problems with pulseaudio, with games, with teamspeak, with in-game voice chat - I wonder if the wiki should point out
[19:26] <comicinker> joaopinto: I see
[19:26] <zsquareplusc> redrebel: no, you missed the rm command. and for testing use echo instead of rm :-)
[19:26] <Wixicy> I am not able to install .PCF fonts, when I try "fs-cache -vf" it ignores the PCF
[19:26] <sproingie> is there any way i can create a global hotkey like, oh, super-n to launch gedit?
[19:26] <Wixicy> Why?
[19:27] <synaptix> that the path given in the removal instructions for hardy, should say they are gnome-specific?
[19:27] <redrebel> zsquareplusc,  thanx
[19:27] <sproingie> it's driving me nuts that i can't get anything like pshotlaunch or any of the other eleventy billion hotkey launchers
[19:27] <synaptix> it might save people a little confusion - because it looks like a file system path
[19:27] <MetalliMyers> hilow
[19:27] <synaptix> "/system/preferences/sound"
[19:27] <iSchadow> hey, is shmconfig.fdi a HUGE text file?
[19:27] <rafting> joaopinto: /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log, what should I do with it?
[19:27] <comicinker> joaopinto: but maybe I can modify the ~/.ssh/config for this host to specify a default directory ?
[19:27] <mgolisch> sproingie: you can set hotkeys in your desktop environments/windowmanagers settings
[19:28] <joaopinto> rafting, you should check it's contents
[19:28] <iSchadow> my gedit is frozen solid by trying to open it
[19:28] <joaopinto> comicinker, why dont you just create the home directory for the user ?
[19:28] <Toznoshio> sproingie, keylaunch - A small utility for binding commands to a hot key
[19:28] <sproingie> mgolisch: i tried csm, it doesn't have anything like associating arbitrary hotkeys to arbitrary apps
[19:28] <joaopinto> comicinker, you can«t change ~/.ssh, if there is no ~
[19:28] <Wixicy> I am not able to install .PCF fonts, when I try "fs-cache -vf" it ignores the PCF, why?
[19:28] <joaopinto> comicinker, it's a server side config, not client side
[19:28] <mgolisch> sproingie: it has iam quite sure
[19:28] <comicinker> joaopinto: no, client side
[19:29] <Guest41222> im really getting agrivated....  I downloaded amarok and keep getting the "No available decoder" error message... I uninstalled and reinstalled and still get the same thing...   I want to listen to internet radio only.. Can someone help me please....
[19:29] <comicinker> joaopinto: the .ssh/config can be used also for client side config (or maybe only)
[19:29] <Windstone> can i put passwords on folders?
[19:29] <sproingie> wow the documentation for keylaunch is ... just freakin wow
[19:29] <iSchadow> why can't I open shmconfig.fdi without gedit freezing?
[19:29] <mgolisch> sproingie: select the general options plugin, go to tab commands, expand the first arrow and you have 11 freely definabkle commands
[19:30] <gaintsura> ok, well I've gotten 1 step further, linux can now ping the windows box... but I still can't ping the linux box from windows... no internet to windows box either
[19:30] <sachael> anyone know a utility for mass lyrics download?
[19:31] <synaptix> !restricted
[19:31] <mgolisch> sproingie: the keybindings arrow under that lets you assign a keybinding for each of those commands
[19:31] <kantor> hi
[19:31] <kantor> hi, I have my operating systems (linux, and freebsd) on a 80 GB hdd, I also have a 160 GB hdd, how can I copy all the data (the operating systems) from the 80 GB hdd to the 160 GB hdd, so I do not need to reinstall linux and freebsd to that 160 GB hdd ?
[19:31] <ghismo> guys i have some problems with flash player! i can't run youtube! plus since last update (i still have 8.04) i can't tun amsn and amule! anyone can explain why?
[19:31] <Toznoshio> sachael, lyricue
[19:31] <synaptix> !restricted @ Guest41222
[19:31] <mgolisch> sproingie: is that what you wanted?
[19:31] <sachael> Toznoshio, thanks. will check it out
[19:31] <dominic_f> gaintsura - I havn't been following the conversation so far but are both on the same lan or is there a router between them?
[19:31] <MHz128> Where are Network Manager config files for WPA stored? I am using ndiswrapper with nm-applet... still unable to connect via WPA... any ideas?
[19:31] <diffred> how can I extract an .iso file? I've download a collection of books which is in .iso file
[19:32] <sproingie> mgolisch: the UI is torture, and it's limited, but close enough i guess
[19:32] <badawi> diffred: u're supposed to mount it or burn it
[19:32] <mgolisch> sproingie: yeah its horrible
[19:32] <mgolisch> :9
[19:32] <Scunizi> kantor: the "Rescue CD" has partimage on it.  It will image your partitions so you can put them back onto the other drive..
[19:32] <zsquareplusc> kantor: if the other disk is empty, you could use dd and then gparted to expand the partitions. or "cp -ax" makes archive copies of trees.
[19:32] <diffred> badawi: but..how can I access the files within the iso? I mean I have the iso on the HD, don't want to burn it
[19:32] <Hikefu__> !iso
[19:32] <sproingie> mgolisch: actually it's horrible to the point where it defeats any ability to enter any shortcuts at all
[19:32] <gaintsura> dominic_f: I've got a ppp0 device (usb broadband WWAN adapter) on my linux box, and I'm trying to share the internet via ethernet crossover cable to a windows box. Previously, I could not get either box to ping the other. Now I seem to have managed to get linux to ping windows, but not the other way around. I'm using firestarter to provider the ICS abilities.
[19:33] <sproingie> ohhh okay, <Super>n can't take any spaces
[19:33] <kevin__> the archive manager can be used to explore the contents of ISO"s
[19:33] <kantor> Scunizi, thanks
[19:33] <kevin__> just right-click on them
[19:33] <sproingie> i guess computers aren't advanced enough to strip out any *^&&*(^!#^!^ spaces
[19:33] <domevlo> What part of gnome or ubuntu controls how the lock screen dialog looks? How can I customize it?
[19:34] <sproingie> mgolisch: that worked -- thanks :)
[19:34] <mgolisch> sproingie: np
[19:34]  * sproingie grumbles, no thanks to the people who don't offer something that basic in gnome
[19:34] <synaptix> lol customise.
[19:35] <synaptix> is that doing the same thing as kotkeys then?
[19:35] <sproingie> hotkeys only works with those "special keys"
[19:35] <sproingie> i tried three different hotkey programs, they're all the same that way, basically hardwired
[19:35] <diffred> how do I "open" an iso file? like if it where a .rar? just downloaded a collection of books and is in .iso...
[19:36] <synaptix> you want to launch things with individual letter presses?
[19:36] <sharms> diffred: mount it somewhere
[19:36] <kevin__> right-click on it and open with archive manager
[19:36] <badawi> !iso | diffred
[19:36] <aurynn> Is there a new .deb out for python2.6 anywhere? I'm not seeing it in synaptic
[19:36] <diffred> badawi: I've run that command
[19:36] <darkvertex> gaintsura: how did you manage to ping windows? what changed?
[19:36] <diffred> and nothing happened :S
[19:36] <rob227> can anyone help me with the sub on my speakers. I have turned the LFE way up and screwed aroudn with it but it doesn't have any effect and it is not muted
[19:36] <Windstone> im haveing trouble with vids and sound - can any1 help?
[19:36] <diffred> I don't have any new folder, nor I've got any error
[19:36] <kevin__> you could also mount the ISO as though it were a drive too
[19:37] <badawi> diffred: where did you mount it?
[19:37] <rob227> they are 2.1 speakers on 5.1 sound card
[19:37] <diffred> to the same folder where the iso file is
[19:37] <diffred>  sudo mount -o loop ALL\ MATH\ BOOK\ CATEGORISED.iso .
[19:37] <badawi> diffred: u can't do that
[19:37] <rob227> can't find any forum topics about that particular configuration
[19:37] <diffred> badawi: so what should I do?
[19:37] <kevin__> is there a replacement panel for gnome that can be hidden 100%?
[19:37] <badawi> diffred: sudo mount -o loop ALL\ MATH\ BOOK\ CATEGORISED.iso /mnt
[19:38] <diffred> badawi: so then I'll have a folder with the books?
[19:38] <sproingie> synaptix: right, for ages i've had a command prompt and notepad bound to a hotkey in windows.  very convenient
[19:38] <slayton> is there a way to display all files/folders in DIR A that are not in DIR B?
[19:38] <badawi> diffred: the files will be in /mnt
[19:38] <diffred> badawi: but /mnt is on the internal HD init, that file is too big to mount it on the internal HD, I would like to mount it on the external USB HD
[19:39] <badawi> diffred: it doesn't matter
[19:39] <gaintsura> darkvertex: I erased and rebuilt all of my firewall rules (then cleared them), followed a tutorial on ICS using the iptables postrouting masquerade/dnsmasq/ipmasq and rebooted..
[19:39] <synaptix> Yound it's like  letter or something, or just  button on  multimedi keybord?
[19:39] <synaptix> ew
[19:39] <kantor> Scunizi, if I use partimage I still need to make partitions on that 160 GB hdd ? or I can create an image (from that 80 GB hdd where my OS's are) that contains all the partitions, and then simply write that image to the target drive (the 160 GB hdd) and the partitions shall be created on that 160 GB hdd
[19:39] <diffred> badawi: what do you mean
[19:39] <dr_willis> diffred,  a mount point is just a directory.  it dosent take any mopre space.
[19:39] <badawi> diffred: ^^
[19:39] <karname> how i can use a folder that share with samba in ubuntu
[19:39] <synaptix> I meant "and it's like  letter or something, or just  button on  multimedia keyboard?"
[19:40] <diffred> dr_willis: u mean the files are in the external hd eventhough I mount it on /mnt
[19:40] <Windstone> can an1 help me with my sound - i dont have any and dont know how to fix it!! ------<<<<<<<<<<
[19:40] <dr_willis> karname,  carify that a bit to the channel.
[19:40] <synaptix> khotkeys actions can be individual keys, you know?
[19:40] <dr_willis> diffred,  exactly. dosent make sence any other way...
[19:40] <sproingie> synaptix: key combination.  <Super>n for notepad in this case (gedit actually)
[19:40] <diffred> dr_willis: thanks than gonna do it :)
[19:40] <paul68> hi Is there a way to create a shortcut so that I can directly logon to my server without entering each time the logon credentials?
[19:40] <Scunizi> kantor: partimage will create partitions for you of the exact same size when you restore it to the new drive
[19:40] <joaopinto> paul68, you can enable auto login on the gdm setup
[19:41] <iSchadow> will anyone help me at this guide?
[19:41] <sproingie> synaptix: i convinced csm to do this, but man is it a hell of a lot less nice than, say, pshotlaunch
[19:41] <sproingie> and pshotlaunch's gui isn't necessarily even all that good
[19:41] <darkvertex> gaintsura: insert a rule to let icmp echo requests from the windows box
[19:41] <synaptix> zsquareplusc: what, and it actually takes effort to set that up with the gnome apps?
[19:41] <iSchadow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig   - at SHMConfig, where do I enter the text? at the bottom of preferences.fdi or somewhere in the middle?
[19:41] <gaintsura> darkvertex:  got an example? I'm bad with iptables
[19:41] <synaptix> sproingie even
[19:41] <paul68> joaopinto: is there a howto or something else to show me how to do this?
[19:42] <joaopinto> paul68, System -> Admin -> Login Window
[19:42] <sproingie> synaptix: there is nothing at all in the gnome apps i can see that even does that
[19:42] <RenatoSilva> when i double click the title of a window I want it to maximize/restore, not roll like a paper. I'm trying to find the compiz config option, but they're many. What is the exact option?
[19:42] <synaptix> sproingie: use kde
[19:42] <zsquareplusc> synaptix: you are referring to what? using ALSA?
[19:42] <andre123> hello ppl.. i have a question here...
[19:43] <andre123> could someone please help me?
[19:43] <synaptix> kcontrol > keyboard shortcuts > commands. Pick your editor click apply shortcut and press super n
[19:43] <darkvertex> gaintsura: something like a: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -s 192.168.1.3 -j ACCEPT
[19:43] <cr4z3d> hey, i've got a huge issue on my Eee 901 with apt-get. looks like i broke the package manager. it gives me a list of packages with unmet dependencies and tells me to run "apt-get -f install" to fix everything. but when running that i get an error stating /var/log/apt is missing and that dpkg returned an error code (1). i have no idea how to solve this problem
[19:43] <synaptix> hey presto your editor opens every time you press super n
[19:43] <ghismo> Guys help me! i can't run youtube anymore? i odn't know why..plus since last update (i still have 8.04) i can't run amsn and amule!
[19:43] <synaptix> if you like customising stuff, I'd just use kde to be honest
[19:43] <sproingie> synaptix: kde wins again.  i probably should install it, i've just not had great experiences installing via aptitude install kubuntu
[19:44] <sproingie> and since i had to install through wubi, kubuntu wasn't available
[19:44] <synaptix> I just can't believe how difficult gnome makes these things as soon as you stray from the default behaviour
[19:44] <synaptix> I'm not trolling, it just surprises me
[19:44] <sproingie> actually the official behavior isn't difficult, it's impossible
[19:44] <J-_> Is there anything similar to yakuake for gnome?
[19:44] <synaptix> tilda
[19:45] <synaptix> J-_: tilda
[19:45] <joaopinto> synaptix / sproingie can you move the gnome vs KDE conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic ? Thanks
[19:45] <Windstone> can any1 help me - i dont have any sound?? <<<---------------------------------
[19:45] <RenatoSilva> when i double click the title of a window I want it to maximize/restore, not roll like a paper. I'm trying to find the compiz config option, but they're many. What is the exact option?
[19:45] <sproingie> huh default for me is maximize
[19:45] <gaintsura> darkvertex: ok thanks, I'll do that and post results when I return, must go take care of something real quick
[19:45] <joaopinto> !compiz | RenatoSilva
[19:45] <synaptix> joaopinto: I was a bit dubious about posting it, but then I realised it would actually help the guy
[19:46] <J-_> synaptix: ohhh yeah. Cool, thanks
[19:46] <synaptix> it would be topic mania to actually not help the guy.
[19:46]  * andre123 need help with aitconfig.. someone?
[19:46] <synaptix> JUST because the answer was "try kde"
[19:46] <darkvertex> gaintsura: np. better yet use this: iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT
[19:47] <joaopinto> synaptix, the problem is that you are describing the suggestion based on your personal opinion, which can clearly bring debate into the subject, something more suite to the offtopic channel :)
[19:48] <synaptix> I'm just saying that KDE can do it, and Gnome can't. The only thought I ventured on it was that it surprised me.
[19:49] <DiiPhantom> if i reinstall windows, i know ill lose the loader for ubuntu, how can i put it back after that happens?
[19:49] <synaptix> I don't really care. IT HELPED HIM TO BE TOLD ANOTHER SOFTWARE HAD THE FEATURE HE WANTED.
[19:49] <joaopinto> !grub | DiiPhantom
[19:49] <synaptix> Goodness me. I think I shall go.
[19:49] <joaopinto> !caps | synaptix
[19:49] <ghismo> guys is it possible to disable the last update?
[19:49] <synaptix> Thank you for your time, and I shall refrain from telling people KDE can do stuff, allowing them instead to spend hours trying to do it in Gnome.
[19:49] <synaptix> Double plus ungood!
[19:50] <joaopinto> ghismo, what update are you referring to ?
[19:50] <ghismo> sincelast update i have so many troubles
[19:50] <gaintsura> darkvertex: ok, now I can ping from both and see both... but I still have no internet connection
[19:50] <ghismo> those one ubuntu suggest you..
[19:51] <ghismo> since last update (i syill have 8.04) i can't run amsn amule and etc etc..
[19:51] <joaopinto> ghismo, if you want to reverse a specific update you need to know the package name and install the older version from the apt cache
[19:51] <joaopinto> but that cean bring you dependency problems, depends on the package
[19:51] <DiiPhantom> holy cow! lol ill leave that for another time :)
[19:51] <sproingie> reversing an update with deps is real pain
[19:51] <joaopinto> ghismo, what error do you get on the terminal when you try to run one of thse ?
[19:51] <darkvertex> gaintsura: ensure ip_forward is still on (=1) and let us see your iptables -L
[19:51] <sproingie> i remember yast did a pretty decent job at configuration snapshots
[19:51] <sproingie> up til the point where it failed anyway
[19:51] <RenatoSilva> dbl click on window = maximize/restore, where is the option i compiz config?
[19:52] <scientes> how can i make switching between framebuffer and video card driver not reset my monitor, my monitor is not very good at autodetection and i have to unplug it, wait about 60 seconds, and replug it in every time to get it to work again
[19:52] <ghismo> nothing! it simply doesn't run
[19:52] <joaopinto> RenatoSilva, please try the compiz support channel
[19:52] <sproingie> i wish i could figure out how to switch between fb and vidcard driver without crashing X outright
[19:52] <joaopinto> ghismo, have you tried running amsn from a terminal ?
[19:52] <gaintsura> darkvertex: sure thing, hold please
[19:52] <scientes> ghismo, you have to type in the program name on the terminal and then you are likely to see errors
[19:53] <ghismo> yes ...i've just tried and it doesn't run...and no error message
[19:53] <scientes> does it say seg fault or does it quietly close, or does it lock up the terminal and stay running with nothing to show for it?
[19:54] <sproingie> it's kinda ironic, spent the first 10 years of using linux trying to get into a working X desktop, now X is entirely clicky config but i can't get out of it without crashing
[19:54] <RottenKid> hi guys
[19:54] <RottenKid> can someone help me please/
[19:54] <piklesonfire> hey RottenKid we can try :] what's up?
[19:54] <scientes> how much less will my computer be with a server kernel, i want xen
[19:54] <kantor> Scunizi, thank you very much for your help ;-)
[19:55] <RottenKid> i've just installed ubuntu
[19:55] <RottenKid> and my wireless driver with ndiswrapper
[19:55] <RottenKid> but by network i don't have roaming mode
[19:55] <scientes> ghismo, that question was for u
[19:55] <piklesonfire> scientes, xen isn't well supported in ubuntu, look into kvm
[19:55] <RottenKid> :(
[19:55] <sproingie> scientes: kernel isn't any different with server, it just installs a lot less packages
[19:55] <piklesonfire> !enter | RottenKid
[19:55] <scientes> well 100mhz vs 250 mhz
[19:55] <RottenKid> and i can't enable
[19:55] <Scunizi> kantor: not a problem.. you might have to use gparted after to either create another partition with the unused portion of the drive or to expand the current partitions.
[19:55] <joaopinto> sproingie, actually the server kernel does have a different configuration
[19:55] <scientes> i need xen cause my server doesnt have VT
[19:55] <scientes> and xen is better anyways from what i can tell
[19:56] <scientes> for linux guests at least
[19:56] <joaopinto> scientes, you can also use vmware
[19:56] <sproingie> joaopinto: recent change?  i never recalled it being different in 6.06 (which was the last server version i had)
[19:56] <piklesonfire> scientes, ah I see, well, xen is a good option, when I was running it, i had quite minimal speed decreases
[19:56] <scientes> ahh thats the main thing preventing me from using xen, they are incompadible, but vmware isnt as flexible and you have to pay for reasonable features
[19:56] <gaintsura> darkvertex: ip_forward still = 1 and heres my iptables http://pastie.org/334213
[19:56] <ghismo> oh sorry i didn't realize
[19:56] <scientes> like live migration
[19:57] <piklesonfire> RottenKid, it may not have roaming mode, but does it have an option to configure via dhcp?
[19:57] <joaopinto> sproingie, but it is on the latest version, there is a -server kernell package which is optmized for server applications
[19:57] <RottenKid> yes
[19:57] <ghismo> scientes all the troubles started when i made the last update...i'm thinking to pass to 8.10...can u tell me how?
[19:57] <piklesonfire> !enter | scientes
[19:57] <scientes> also doesnt xen put the kernel outside the vm so you can run one fully with nfs or other cool configs
[19:57] <RottenKid> it has for sure roaming mode
[19:57] <joaopinto> sproingie, I am just talking about the kernel, not about the "server" version, which meets your definition
[19:57] <diffred> I've mounted an iso file and now an icons appear on the desktop. How can I get rid of it?
[19:57] <RottenKid> because till 2 hours ago i've used it
[19:57] <distefam> hello, I am a bio student and the built in spellcheck keeps underlining common biology terms (ones that OSX was able to recognize) does anyone know whether there is a way to add a biology dictionary or something?
[19:58] <RottenKid> cand i speak with you in private?
[19:58] <sproingie> joaopinto: no worries, i believe you :)
[19:58] <joaopinto> !upgrading | ghismo
[19:58] <piklesonfire> RottenKid, sure thing pm me
[19:58] <scientes> ghismo, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:58]  * sproingie just runs vanilla debian on his servers now since that's what his host offered
[19:59] <scientes> ghismo, however it doesnt mean it will fix anything, custom installed packages can break with updates like ahppened with you and are likely to be resolved by upgrades, you should reinstall all custom installed packages from a newer version
[19:59] <sproingie> diffred: right-click it and unmount it
[19:59] <diffred> sproingie: it says I can't i'm not root
[19:59] <frfr1> Enter text here...hi
[20:00] <ghismo> i see...
[20:00] <sproingie> diffred: if you unmount it as root, then the icon should disappear
[20:00] <piklesonfire> diffred, "sudo umount /path/to/mount"
[20:00] <diffred> sproingie: I've tried to do it in terminal with sudo but it doesn't appear when I do an "ls"
[20:00] <sproingie> not sure where a .iso would be mounted
[20:00] <cr4z3d> quick question where do files downloaded from apt-get upgrade go?
[20:00] <diffred> piklesonfire: le'ts see if I get it
[20:00] <scientes> ghismo, or at least the ones that are broken
[20:00] <captainc> I left my computer running for a short while and came back to find it had logged out and all my programs were shut down (maybe it restarted). How can I best investigate what happened? What log files are relevant?
[20:00] <vladtsepesh1985> i guys how can i change ubuntu themes???
[20:01] <sproingie> if you mount something through the gui, you sure should be able to unmount it that way
[20:01] <dijenerate> hi all
[20:01] <sproingie> if not i'd sure call it a bug
[20:01] <darkvertex> gaintsura: the rules seems fine. how about routes and default gateways on boyj the linux box and the windows one?
[20:01] <frfr1> their is ane gril wana chat
[20:01] <vladtsepesh1985> in gnomelook there are a lot of amazing videos but i don't understand how to install it
[20:01] <Linux-Lover> hello ubuntu ppl i need help please
[20:01] <rob> I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and I'm having problems with my 2.1 speakers on my 5.1 sound card. The problem is that the sub strength is really weak but adjustable. I have already turned the LFE to max and assured it was not muted. Sound Capture is set as PulseAudio Sound Server. ICEnsemble ICE1724 (Alsa mixer) seems to be controlling the volume. How can I make the SUB stronger?
[20:01] <rob>  My theory is that the sound card is treating the speakers as 2.0 instead of 2.1? But I don't know cause I'm a linux noob
[20:01] <piklesonfire> hi dijenerate
[20:01] <vladtsepesh1985> please help me
[20:01] <ghismo> scientes...i don't think to be able to solve these problems...i'm just hoping to be luckier with 8.10
[20:01] <piklesonfire> Linux-Lover, we'll give it our best ;p
[20:01] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: System > Preferences > Appearance
[20:01] <Linux-Lover> any way to run paltalk under ubuntu
[20:01] <darkvertex> gaintsura:  *box
[20:01] <scientes> captainc, your syslog will include log outs and such, wierd---if you hit ctrl-alt-delete will eventually log you out
[20:01] <Linux-Lover> lol thx pik :P
[20:01] <vladtsepesh1985> yes but there are only 3 so simple themes
[20:01] <scientes> ghismo, well ok , could happen could not
[20:01] <dijenerate> I need a bit of help with a problem that's been sending my over the edge for the past four days
[20:02] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: you need to download additional ones
[20:02] <cr4z3d> quick question where do files downloaded from apt-get upgrade go?
[20:02] <sproingie> captainc: last time that happened it was the screensaver was set to lock the screen, and the lock occasionally fails and crashes X
[20:02] <dijenerate> I have a mobile PC with Ati X1200 and AMD Turion X2 TL-56 processor
[20:02] <darkvertex> gaintsura: oops, *both
[20:02] <sproingie> captainc: were you back at the login screen?
[20:02] <ghismo> can i pass to 8.10 using snaptic or something like that?
[20:02] <captainc> scientes: yes I was
[20:02] <Linux-Lover> what's that way to run paltalk under ubuntu it is the only remain thing makes me still use windows
[20:02] <dijenerate> I have no problems if running fglrx on it's own
[20:02] <hwilde> cr4z3d, /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:02] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: google gtk themes
[20:02] <Linux-Lover> so any help ubuntu nice ppl
[20:03] <sproingie> captainc: sounds like your session crashed.  make sure your drivers are up to date is all i can say
[20:03] <dijenerate> but the second I use the powernow-k8 modules with it
[20:03] <captainc> scientes: i'm looking at syslog, cant find a restart entry
[20:03] <cr4z3d> hwilde: thank you
[20:03] <vladtsepesh1985> inyes but when i downloa it for example from http://www.gnome-look.org/ i'm not able to install it
[20:03] <rob> I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and I'm having problems with my 2.1 speakers on my 5.1 sound card. The problem is that the sub strength is really weak but adjustable. I have already turned the LFE to max and assured it was not muted. Sound Capture is set as PulseAudio Sound Server. ICEnsemble ICE1724 (Alsa mixer) seems to be controlling the volume. How can I make the SUB stronger?
[20:03] <rob>  My theory is that the sound card is treating the speakers as 2.0 instead of 2.1? But I don't know cause I'm a linux noob
[20:03] <dijenerate> it's as unstable as windows
[20:03] <vladtsepesh1985> there is a tutorial???
[20:03]  * sproingie runs the nvidia driver, so when that crashes it totally hoses things to the point of requiring a reboot
[20:03] <piklesonfire> Linux-Lover, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475730
[20:03] <badawi> Linux-Lover: wine?
[20:03] <captainc> scientes:  video drivers you mean?
[20:03] <dijenerate> endless segfaults everywherer
[20:03] <gaintsura> darkvertex: default gateway/ip/subnet on windows box: 169.254.7.173/169.254.7.174/255.255.0.0 linux: none/169.254.7.173/255.255.0.0 will pastebin the route -n from linux
[20:03] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: don't extract the files, simply drag the archive into the theme manager
[20:03] <hwilde> !enter | djen
[20:03] <hwilde> !enter | dijenerate
[20:03] <Linux-Lover> thx pik i will chech it now
[20:03] <dijenerate> this is on 2.6.27-9 and 2.6.27-9
[20:03] <dijenerate> ok
[20:03] <vladtsepesh1985> wich themes manager??? and what kind of themes should i have to download??
[20:03] <piklesonfire> Linux-Lover, if you still have issues after reading, report back ;]
[20:04] <hwilde> vladtsepesh1985, you dont HAVE to download any themes.
[20:04] <gaintsura> darkvertex: route -n output: http://pastie.org/334223
[20:04] <sproingie> poor scientes keeps getting stuff meant for me
[20:04] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: you want to use gtk2 themes, unless you are using compiz
[20:04] <scientes> :) sproingie
[20:04] <sproingie> elsechannel it's some guy named "sprenglemeyer"
[20:04] <J-_> How can I close a tab in tilda?
[20:04] <J-_> Nevermind, right clicking will do.
[20:04] <dijenerate> ubottu, hwilde: that would make some very long lines...
[20:04] <Linux-Lover> sure pik i will never give up to be good ubuntu user who knows maybe i will be teacher :P
[20:04] <vladtsepesh1985> distefam...i only want to change theme.....can u help me?
[20:04] <scientes> sproingie, people need to turn on ordering autocomplete by last spoke order
[20:05] <hwilde> dijenerate, we cannot follow you pressing enter all the time
[20:05] <dijenerate> should have known
[20:05] <sproingie> scientes: life would be better if everyone used irssi :)
[20:05] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: You first have to install themes before you can change them. After you download them drag the archive file into the theme manager then you can apply the new theme
[20:05] <sproingie> my favorite irssi feature is it nags you if you accidentally (or otherwise) paste in a lot of lines
[20:05] <cr4z3d> hwilde: do you by any chance knwo how to change that to a different location? could a symlink to a ddifferent partition work?
[20:05] <hwilde> scientes, you think xchat would default to last spoke order
[20:05] <rob> I'm not hitting enter a million times can someone help me? I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and I'm having problems with my 2.1 speakers on my 5.1 sound card. The problem is that the sub strength is really weak but adjustable. I have already turned the LFE to max and assured it was not muted. Sound Capture is set as PulseAudio Sound Server. ICEnsemble ICE1724 (Alsa mixer) seems to be controlling the volume. How can I make the SUB stronger?
[20:05] <rob>  My theory is that the sound card is treating the speakers as 2.0 instead of 2.1? But I don't know cause I'm a linux noob
[20:05] <hwilde> cr4z3d, why would you want to do such a thing
[20:05] <sproingie> you'd think xchat would be a lot of things that aren't broken
[20:05] <scientes> hwilde, you just have to custom turn it on
[20:05] <sproingie> if you didn't know xchat
[20:05] <baddog> hello, how can I update a single package (gcc) with apt-get ?
[20:06] <scientes> sproingie, hey stop speaking down on it xchat is awesome
[20:06] <cr4z3d> hwilde: i've got an eee pc and only 4gb for the ubuntu install.. the upgrades filled my partition and broke apt-get
[20:06] <sproingie> scientes: its plugin api is an absolute horror
[20:06] <hwilde> !minimal | cr4z3d
[20:06] <darkvertex> gaintsura: can the linux box access the internet?
[20:06] <scientes> i get alot of this: Dec  8 12:05:01  user CRON[15715]: Sigfile not found   in my logs
[20:06] <rob> Anyone? Help Please?
[20:06] <gaintsura> yes, thats where I am right now
[20:06] <Uuu> baddog: just do: sudo apt-get install gcc
[20:06] <hwilde> cr4z3d, you could change the mountpoint of /var to another partition if you really wanted to ...
[20:06] <cr4z3d> hwilde: i've got Ubuntu Eee installed which is made for this
[20:07] <frfr9> Enter text here...hi all
[20:07] <vladtsepesh1985> for example here there are a lot of amazing themes.....but if i download it i cant apply theme in the theme manager
[20:07] <vladtsepesh1985> why?? http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0&xcontentmode=100
[20:07] <afancy> Hi, Does anybody know how to make the virtualBox support USB ?
[20:07] <baddog> Uuu, ok, thank you :)
[20:07] <hwilde> vladtsepesh1985, search for themes in Synaptic.
[20:07] <Uuu> ;)
[20:07] <hwilde> !vbox | afancy
[20:07] <rob> maybe I have not yet earned the respect to ask a simple question?
[20:07] <cr4z3d> hwilde: i moved /var/tmp, /tmp, and /var/logs to tmpfs
[20:07] <dijenerate> ok, so the problem is powernow-k8.ko combined with fglrx, ati or the radeon drivers leads to completed instability and segfaults everywhere... anyone know how to get powernow and ati 3d drivers to co-exist?
[20:07] <NicEXE> where ever (including firefox) I use this link --> http://rapidshare.com in Linux it will never work. It will only work if I change it to http://www.rapidshare.com ... how can I fix that issue?
[20:07] <hwilde> cr4z3d, change your mount point of /var in /etc/fstab
[20:08] <afancy> hwilde: but it doesnt solve the problem
[20:08] <afancy> Hi, Does anybody know how to make the virtualBox support USB ?
[20:08] <hwilde> afancy, the point was to ask in #vbox
[20:08] <zsquareplusc> afancy: you use the propietary version?
[20:08] <distefam> vlad, you need to download the GTK2 version of those themes
[20:08] <rob> or any acknowledgment really either?
[20:08] <diffred> how can I delete a file in a read-only filesystem!!!???
[20:08] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985:
[20:08] <lilalo> hola?
[20:08] <rob> very helpful community
[20:08] <piklesonfire> afancy, get the non-opensource version from the vbox site
[20:09] <afancy> piklesonfire: yes, I have used the Sun's Virtualbox
[20:09] <NicEXE> where ever (including firefox) I use this link --> http://rapidshare.com in Linux it will never work. It will only work if I change it to http://www.rapidshare.com ... how can I fix that issue?
[20:09] <hwilde> rob, check the impedence on your sub wiring
[20:09] <scientes_irssi> how do i hide join/parts in irssi?
[20:09] <afancy> piklesonfire: but i don't know how to make it support the USB
[20:09] <darkvertex> gaintsura: from windows try: ping www.google.com or some other site. did you get replys?
[20:09] <sproingie> rob: i didn't see your question.  if you hadn't noticed, there's a lot of traffic here.  i did see a lot of your bellyaching though.  good impression.
[20:09] <zsquareplusc> afancy: "usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=1001,devmode=664 0 0" in /etc/fastab helped here
[20:09] <rob> remove the read-only attribute i'd imagine but i'm a noob
[20:09] <distefam>  I am a bio student and the built in spellcheck keeps underlining common biology terms (ones that OSX was able to recognize) does anyone know whether there is a way to add a biology dictionary or something similar?
[20:09] <piklesonfire> rob, i'm sorry you haven't gotten the help you needed, i read your question, but i don't know much about the issue, so i can't assist, can't say anything for anyone else tho
[20:10] <zsquareplusc> NicEXE: its not your problem, it is a problem of their DNS server.
[20:10] <afancy> ok
[20:10] <dijenerate> anyone here using ati graphics and a turion on a portable?
[20:10] <afancy> zsquareplusc:
[20:10] <gaintsura> darkvertex: host not found
[20:10] <rob> My questions have been paragraphs like this I'm not hitting enter a million times can someone help me? I'm running ubuntu 8.10 and I'm having problems with my 2.1 speakers on my 5.1 sound card. The problem is that the sub strength is really weak but adjustable. I have already turned the LFE to max and assured it was not muted. Sound Capture is set as PulseAudio Sound Server. ICEnsemble ICE1724 (Alsa mixer) seems to be controlling the volume. How c
[20:10] <rob> an I make the SUB stronger?
[20:10] <rob>   My theory is that the sound card is treating the speakers as 2.0 instead of 2.1? But I don't know cause I'm a linux noob
[20:10] <FloodBot1> rob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <NicEXE> if I try to use that link --> http://rapidshare.com under windows XP using virtual box it will work without problems
[20:11] <sproingie> could easily be it's treating it as stereo and no sub
[20:11] <vladtsepesh1985> for example how can i install this??? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta+(LiNsta+is+Not+Vista+%3B-)?content=42697
[20:11] <cr4z3d> hwilde: any other directories you suggest i move other than var? i'm goign to repartition soon
[20:11] <NicEXE> where ever (including firefox) I use this link --> http://rapidshare.com in Linux it will never work. It will only work if I change it to http://www.rapidshare.com ... how can I fix that issue?
[20:11] <NicEXE> if I try to use that link --> http://rapidshare.com under windows XP using virtual box it will work without problems
[20:11] <FloodBot1> NicEXE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <rob> i am not flooding i am simple putting everything in one paragraph to make it more understandable.
[20:12] <hwilde> cr4z3d, well if you filled up /var I would say move that one...   or move /home
[20:12] <rob> nioce bot
[20:12] <Uuu> rob: take it easy, it's just a stupid bot ;]
[20:12] <bastaaaaa> Does any1 know, if I do /etc/init.d/gdm stop && killall gdm from them tty1 (ctr+alt+f1?) will that kill my gparted that I have currently running?
[20:12] <badawi> scientes_irssi: http://wouter.coekaerts.be/site/irssi/wclf
[20:12] <cr4z3d> hwilde: home is on the 16gb drive which i'm goign to repartition to give /var it's own partition
[20:12] <dreamy> can i post my question ? anyone payng atention ?
[20:12] <rob> i know
[20:12] <rob> i got that now
[20:12] <eseven73> whats the command to up/down my nic card?
[20:13] <rob> sorry
[20:13] <jeaton> what's a good program that will allow me to covert avi and other formats over to dvd and burn them?
[20:13] <cr4z3d> eseven73: ifconfig eth0 up
[20:13] <bastaaaaa> eseven73: ifconfig eth0 donw ?
[20:13] <Mez> rob: it seems a little trigger happy today
[20:13] <sproingie> ifup <interface>
[20:13] <bastaaaaa> down
[20:13] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: after you download that, it should place a file that ends in .tar.gz on your desktop. Open the theme manager and drag that file on your desktop into the area containing the various themes
[20:13] <rob> yeah
[20:13] <eseven73> ty
[20:13] <piklesonfire> eseven73, sudo ifdown [interface]
[20:13] <sproingie> should use ifup and not ifconfig up
[20:13] <Deepsouth> Need Help I upgraded to 8.10 last week and it would not recognize my eth0 so i had to do a fresh install of 8.04 I would like to go to 8.10 but if eth0 problem can't be fixed I don't know.  Running AMD 64 live 360GB hd nvidia graphics in a HP slimline
[20:13] <sproingie> ifup usually runs more scripts
[20:13] <Uuu> bastaaaaa: yes, it probably will since it runs on X, which is going to be off ;>
[20:13] <diffred> Please I'm going crazy!!! how I delete files in a read-only file system!!!
[20:13] <rob> can't figure out this sound problem no one can help
[20:13] <darkvertex> gaintsura: from windows try: tracert 72.14.235.147 (which is one of google sites)/ what does it say? where did it start to reply with asterisks?
[20:14] <bastaaaaa> Uuu : damn it :p
[20:14] <kdubois1> diffred: its probably not mounted right
[20:14] <Windstone> im having sound problem to - no sound at all??    can any1 help?
[20:14] <rob> doesn't even seem to be that big of a problem but no one has the answer
[20:14] <NicEXE> where ever (including firefox) I use this link --> http://rapidshare.com in Linux it will never work. It will only work if I change it to http://www.rapidshare.com ... how can I fix that issue?
[20:14] <NicEXE> if I try to use that link --> http://rapidshare.com under windows XP using virtual box it will work without problems
[20:14] <gaintsura> darkvertex: interesting... its goin right a long, at hop 15+ now
[20:14] <rob> i've checked forum after forum
[20:15] <gipsy> hello
[20:15] <zsquareplusc> NicEXE: then dont use that link. why is iot so important for you?
[20:15] <darkvertex> gaintsura: did tracert went past 172.28.220.130 ok?
[20:15] <Uuu> bastaaaaa: I don't know, maybe gparted uses a daemon that is not connected to the X windows system? But I suppose that it is not safe to experiment if running gparted...
[20:15] <pantsman> hi, how can I list my X displays?
[20:15] <rob> destroyed my sound screwing with the edit /.pulse/default.pa thing
[20:15] <gaintsura> darkvertex: yep
[20:15] <piklesonfire> NicEXE, have you tried using that url in opera? it works fine for me?
[20:15] <Deepsouth> Need Help I upgraded to 8.10 last week and it would not recognize my eth0 so i had to do a fresh install of 8.04 I would like to go to 8.10 but if eth0 problem can't be fixed I don't know.  Running AMD 64 live 360GB hd nvidia graphics in a HP slimline
[20:15] <gipsy> my broadcom wireless card is not working ...
[20:16] <sproingie> NicEXE: i suspect that's rapidshare's problem, maybe they're screwing up redirects for people on browsers they don't detect
[20:16] <nbeebo> !turkish
[20:16] <dreamy> info about the dri project
[20:16] <bastaaaaa> Uuu: yeah I agree :o I'll just have to wait another 1.5h
[20:16] <sproingie> rapidshare is about a hundred tons of fail anyway
[20:16] <Uuu> good luck ;p
[20:16] <distefam> I'm using an nvidia driver. It recognizes my external monitor but I have to detect displays to get it working. Is there a way to automatically have twinview start when an external monitor is plugged in?
[20:17] <darkvertex> gaintsura: then the "host not found" message might be due to unset dns in the windows box
[20:17] <gaintsura> yeah, I didn't specify dns on the windows box, should the primary be pointed to my linux box IP?
[20:17] <vladtsepesh1985> i have download the file....after unrar it...i have a lot of folder...and the theme manager doesn't see it beacause the theme manager accept only "theme package" how can i do???
[20:18] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: don't unrar it
[20:18] <darkvertex> gaintsura: set it to your ISP dns, unless you have also set up dns (bind9) in the linux box
[20:18] <piklesonfire> vladtsepesh1985, you use the compressed file as the install file
[20:18] <gaintsura> which I have not....
[20:19] <gaintsura> brb
[20:19] <vladtsepesh1985> i try....
[20:19] <distefam> vladtsepesh1985: as I said earlier, simply drag the compressed file onto theme manager
[20:19] <omars> any body having a problem with intrepid 64 bit? the system hangs regularly and its performance is worse than hardy...
[20:19] <piklesonfire> vladtsepesh1985, exactly what distefam said buddy
[20:19] <gaintsura> darkvertex: where can I find what my ISP's dns servers are?
[20:19] <frfr9> hi all
[20:19] <ndube> darkvertex, you could always use 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.3
[20:19] <piklesonfire> omars, i had an issue, it was clocksource, check your system log for any messages regarding hpet please?
[20:20] <vladtsepesh1985> ok it works but the "windows bar color" is always the same why???
[20:20] <darkvertex> gaintsura: look it up from the setting in your linux box?
[20:20] <DiiPhantom> how do i install UT3 in ubuntu?
[20:20] <omars> piklesonfire, how do i check the system log :)
[20:20] <distefam> "windows bar color"?
[20:20] <frfr9> any tits want get it ?
[20:20] <gaintsura> what setting? I know there is one, but what is it? or the command
[20:20] <piklesonfire> omars, using a gui buntu or server type?
[20:21] <gaintsura> nvm
[20:21] <darkvertex> ndube: I'm unfamiliar with thode ips. what are they?
[20:21] <eseven73> i did a noob thing and used tasksel to install LAMP, but in the process it removed xubuntu and a few other things, is there a way to recover? somehow it deleted all my network stuff too so i cant just 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu' is there a way to do it with the live CD or something?
[20:21] <ndube> they are the universal dns servers
[20:21] <ndube> no restrictions on who can use them
[20:21] <distefam> does anyone know if it is possible to download special dictionaries for spellcheck, for instance CS or bio terms?
[20:22] <piklesonfire> omars, if you're using a gui buntu (standard ubuntu) [menu] -> system -> administration -> system log
[20:22]  * gaintsura can has a w000t thanks darkvertex!!!!!!!!
[20:22] <darkvertex> ndube: wow ... I never knew yhay :(
[20:22]  * gaintsura does a little shuck and jive
[20:22] <ndube> np
[20:22] <darkvertex> *that
[20:23] <eseven73> i did a noob thing and used tasksel to install LAMP, but in the process it removed xubuntu and a few other things, is there a way to recover? somehow it deleted all my network stuff too so i cant just 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu' is there a way to do it with the live CD or something?
[20:23] <frfr9> any woman want to know real man
[20:24]  * gaintsura roflz
[20:24] <piklesonfire> frfr9, not appropriate for this channel
[20:24] <zsquareplusc> eseven73: with the live cd? "chroot" to the install and run apt-get could work
[20:24] <Slart> frfr9: oh my.. that's so wrong that it's just.. wow.. just go away.. please
[20:24] <eseven73> zsquareplusc: chroot?
[20:24] <Marky> Does anyone have any suggestions for an alternate network manager for Ubuntu 8.10 that I could download and install on a system currently unable to connect to the internet?
[20:24] <theshadow> is there a documented standard for creating scripts that live in /etc/init.d
[20:24] <theshadow> ?
[20:24] <distefam> Marky: wicd
[20:24] <mphill> theshadow: yes
[20:25] <afancy> zsquareplusc: Hi, I have added in my fstab, but it still cannot support USB
[20:25] <Marky> distefam: I'll google it.
[20:25] <theshadow> mphill: excellent. Can I get a link  to it?
[20:25] <sinbox> eseven73, you could add the CD as a source and do the reinstall from there
[20:25] <zsquareplusc> eseven73: used to run progrms with an other "/", so it runs with the settings of your harddisk and not your cd. try "man chroot" for more info
[20:25] <mphill> look at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[20:25] <zsquareplusc> afancy: you did a mount -a? (needed to 1st time, alternatively reboot)
[20:25] <mphill> theshadow: thats the template
[20:25] <Windstone> hello=)   im having some problem with my sound - i just got it to work but its very low volume..   how do i fix that and how do i get my 5.1 system to work? -------------------------------
[20:26] <mphill> theshadow: although if you wanted to be a pimp playa you could use upstart
[20:26] <theshadow> mphill: forgive me... upstart?
[20:26] <afancy> zsquareplusc: why need to mount? My host: Ubuntu, Winxp in VirtualBox
[20:26] <piklesonfire> windstone have you tried alsamixer in the terminal?
[20:26] <mphill> theshadow: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[20:27] <theshadow> mphill: ty
[20:27] <zsquareplusc> afancy: the entry in fstab is activated with the mount command. and virtualbox wants to use that usbfs
[20:27] <pantsman> hi, how can I stop my ubuntu box losing wireless connectivity when I log out of GNOME?
[20:27] <Marky> distefam: I'm having a lil trouble finding where to download it. wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php only seems to give instructions for installing it live on a system connected to the internet. I need to download it on this system and then transfer it to a system which is unable to connect.
[20:27] <eseven73> yea sinbox i tried that it just tells me i need to run dpkg --configure -a, but then when i do that it gives other errors, if i reinstall totally fresh is there a way to keep my /home? i managed to back up /home to an external drive
[20:27] <mphill> theshadow: init.d is easy to get script to interact with, should be straight forward with the skeleton template
[20:28] <frfr9> iam 30y m big male looking for real woman
[20:28] <macjason0607> guys
[20:28] <Uuu> ﻿/ping frfr9
[20:28] <macjason0607> im trying to get all my icons in gnome smaller .. desktop icons / menubar icons etc..
[20:28] <macjason0607> any ideas ?
[20:28] <Uuu> wtf
[20:28] <darkvertex> gaintsura: so if there is no prob tracing to legitimate ip(s) and with dns setting could get you to ping named sites, then you should be able to use the windows box as client and linux as ICS
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Uuu Please dont swear even in shorthand
[20:28] <ndube> can a channel operator please kick or ban frfr9
[20:28] <cr4z3d> what's teh best way to find the biggest files or directories on your system?
[20:28] <piklesonfire> frfr9, dude, this is a support channel for technical issues, not a place to get your mac on. please leave or ask for help
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ndube already done look up
[20:29] <ndube> nice
[20:29] <ndube> thanks
[20:29] <Slart> piklesonfire: if that wasn't a call for help, I don't know what is ;)
[20:29] <LjL> ndube, he was muted just after he said that
[20:29] <eseven73> lol Slart
[20:29] <ndube> how does one become a channel operator anyways?
[20:29] <piklesonfire> Slart, haha, true true
[20:29] <pantsman> ndube, by asking regularly!
[20:29] <ndube> nice
[20:29] <[empire]> hah
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> pantsman That will never work
[20:29] <LjL> !guidelines > ndube    (ndube, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:29] <omars> hey guys i am having a huge problem, my system keeps on hanging i've just tried to open the system log and i couldnt :(.. i am using intrepid 64 bit
[20:29] <distefam> Marky: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573&package_id=229460
[20:30] <distefam> Marky: download the deb
[20:30] <Marky> Thank you, distefam  :)
[20:30] <pantsman> Jack_Sparrow, you *do* realise I'm being sarcastic, right?
[20:30] <Slart> omars: couldn't open the syslog? "tail /var/log/syslog" doesn't work? error messages?
[20:30] <chn_boy> hi all, I have a printer... but I don't know where it is attached... So, How can I know where this device has been attached?
[20:30] <distefam> Marky: no problem
[20:30] <piklesonfire> omars, check the syslogs man [menu] system -> administration -> system log
[20:30] <MetalliMyers> can you see my message?
[20:30] <Uuu> ﻿Jack_Sparrow: OK,  sorry all ;)
[20:30] <Peregring_Lok0oo> wenas
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> pantsman Sarcasm is wasted on irc
[20:30] <LjL> MetalliMyers: yes
[20:30] <Slart> MetalliMyers: yes, we see you
[20:30] <LjL> !es | Peregring_Lok0oo
[20:30]  * Marky is restarting and loading Ubuntu now
[20:30] <MetalliMyers> thanks
[20:30] <pantsman> Jack_Sparrow, that's what they all see when my razor-sharp wit goes over their heads
[20:30] <MetalliMyers> testing a client
[20:30] <pantsman> see=say
[20:30] <chn_boy> hi all, I have a printer... but I don't know where it is attached... So, How can I know where this device has been attached?
[20:31] <eseven73> is there a way to restore my /home? i backed it up to an external USB hdd, and i need to reinstall ubuntu,
[20:31] <Slart> MetalliMyers: I think there is a test channel.. it even offers some automatic messages and stuff.. try #test
[20:31] <LjL> eseven73: sure, you just copy it back and then reset the permissions
[20:31] <afancy> zsquareplusc: do u know why?
[20:31] <Slart> eseven73: afaik you can just copy the files back
[20:31] <sinbox> eseven73, if you have your  home dir backed up you should be ble to just put it back there after a reinstall, but then if it's backed-up after your problem then it might not be the best idea, you'll probably want to restore it selectively, not something I've ever done personally
[20:31] <dr_willis> eseven73,  depends on how you backed it up.. If you just copied it to USB,.,. then after you install.. copy it back.  You may need to fix the permission/ownership of the dir/files
[20:31] <eseven73> LjL: reset the permissions to what exactly?
[20:31] <darkvertex> gaintsura: the setting in linux is at /etc/resolv.conf
[20:32] <LjL> eseven73: well, i meant the ownership actually, more than the permissions - to make it match the new installation's user
[20:32] <piklesonfire> eseven73, to your user as the owner with 755 permissions
[20:32] <eseven73> ok ty guys
[20:32] <zsquareplusc> afancy: why what? is usbfs listed in the output when you run "mount"?
[20:32] <chn_boy> hi all, I have a printer... but I don't know where it is attached... So, How can I know where this device has been attached?
[20:33] <NotADJ> !jp > NotADJ
[20:33] <dr_willis> chn_boy,  where? How is it plugged in?  follow the cable.. USB most likely...
[20:33] <badawi> chn_boy: u do realize how weird u're question is right? :/
[20:33] <chn_boy> parallel port
[20:33] <badawi> follow the wire
[20:33] <hersoy> !ip hersoy
[20:33] <afancy> zsquareplusc: this the output when i run mount: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devgid=1001,devmode=664)
[20:33] <nikin> hi. I want to ise qemu to havea running backup of the system.. if i know right dd-ing the harddrive will do the trick... but theproblm is that not all the harddriveis full with partitions.. and i want to backup the drive without the empty spacewith dd
[20:33] <hersoy> !ip > hersoy
[20:33] <chn_boy> dr_willis: parallel port
[20:34] <zsquareplusc> afancy: that looks good. and when you restart vbox it still gives you the warning?
[20:34] <slayton> is it possible to copy from Dir A to Dir B but not to copy existing files?
[20:34] <dr_willis> chn_boy,  For my parallel port printers. the printer config tool saw/configured them automatically. Run the  gnome printer config tool and see what it sees..   It may be in the pull down menus
[20:34] <piklesonfire> guys i'm out, i'll be on later this evening for the late night assists peace out
[20:35] <afancy> zsquareplusc: My host is Ubuntu 8.10, In the vb is Winxp.
[20:35] <chn_boy> dr_willis: is there any way to know where the address of /dev/.... about my printer??
[20:35] <afancy> zsquareplusc: now in the Winxp, it still cannot find the USB
[20:35] <zsquareplusc> afancy: you may need to change the "gui" part in fstab. the correct group number is output with: "grep vboxusers /etc/group"
[20:35] <cdecarlo> when does support for fiesty stop?
[20:36] <dr_willis> chn_boy,  check dmesg output.. I got a praallel printer on this machine.. but not in linux right now.
[20:36] <zsquareplusc> !eol > cdecarlo
[20:36] <Uuu> !eol > Uuu
[20:36] <dr_willis> chn_boy,  when i plugged mine in the first time - the  thing even auto-detected/installed it.
[20:36] <zsquareplusc> Uuu: you can also /msg ubottu  :-)
[20:36] <nbeebo> Does anyone know if there is gonna be any program that supports the new online service Spotify? www.spotify.com
[20:36] <Uuu> yeah, ubottu said me that ;)
[20:36] <afancy> zsquareplusc: vboxusers:x:128:afancy   is it the number 128 ?
[20:37] <chn_boy> dr_willis: ok2... I will try... thx for your advice
[20:37] <nikin> hi. I want to ise qemu to havea running backup of the system.. if i know right dd-ing the harddrive will do the trick... but theproblm is that not all the harddriveis full with partitions.. and i want to backup the drive without the empty spacewith dd. Any ideaas howto do that?
[20:37] <unixSnob> aptitude -y ... answers "y", as expected, but it does not answer "yes" to the more serious questions.  How can I compell a "yes" answer for non-interactive runs?
[20:37] <zsquareplusc> afancy: yes. so you have to replace 1001 with 128.
[20:37] <kate__> hi
[20:37] <nbeebo> hello
[20:37] <slayton> !hi
[20:38] <lilalo> me ves?
[20:38] <omars> slart, i used the command it gave me it showed me some info about the wireless connection, i tried to open the file but its not opening
[20:38] <lilalo> yo claro que te veo
[20:38] <afancy> zsquareplusc: thanks a lot, I leave a moment to restart. I will be back to tell u if it works
[20:38] <zsquareplusc> afancy: wait
[20:39] <koshar1> is partimage in the 8.10 repos?
[20:39] <zsquareplusc> afancy: umount usbfs;mount -a    should do it
[20:39] <afancy> zsquareplusc: ok
[20:39] <arrenlex> !info partimage | koshar1
[20:39] <Slart> omars: ok.. what "tail" does is that it prints out the last 10 or so lines from a file.. you actually saw the last 10 lines from the syslog.. which might have been something about wireless connections or something
[20:40] <Uuu> ﻿nikin: maybe try to make instead it qcow2 or something similar - these images are as big as much data they contain...
[20:40] <Slart> omars: if you want to open the file in some kind of editor I'd recommend gedit.. so run this "gedit /var/log/syslog"
[20:41] <koshar1> arrenlex i have universe and multiverse enables and no partimage;-(
[20:42] <omars> Slart, i tried gedit i got "failed to allocate 1838569966 bytes"
[20:42] <calc> OOo 3.0.0-6ubuntu0intrepid1 actually uploading now to the buildds
[20:42] <arrenlex> koshar1: can you run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin all the output of that command? Also, can you confirm "apt-cache show partimage" says "no packages found"?
[20:42] <hackwins> hello i have a problem qith my asus eee and eeebuntu when start eeebuntu my sd card mount automount how can i order no automount? THANKS
[20:42] <Slart> omars: hmm.. sounds like something is not quite right.. have you tried running memtest?
[20:42] <zsquareplusc> omars: wow. how big is your syslog file?  (ls -lh /var/log/syslog)
[20:43] <arrenlex> Slart: That's 1.7GB.
[20:43] <Slart> arrenlex: just noticed..
[20:43] <koshar1> arrenlex odd it was installed, however doesnt show up in the synaptic panel. anyway cheers arrellex
[20:43]  * kate__ destroyed her virtualbox VM
[20:43] <Slart> omars: on the other hand, that's quite a lot of memory.. hang on
[20:43] <omars> 5.8 Gig :D
[20:43] <omars> is that right :S
[20:43] <omars> omg
[20:43] <hackwins> hello i have a problem qith my asus eee and eeebuntu when start eeebuntu my sd card mount automount how can i order no automount? THANKS
[20:44] <zsquareplusc> omars: for a syslog? no that's too large.. maybe look through the file with less find out what it repeats so often
[20:44] <hackwins> how can write in terminal noautomount a device?
[20:45] <hackwins> how can write in terminal noautomount a device?
[20:45] <kevin__> if you want to disable automounting, go to preferences/removable drives and media
[20:45] <Slart> omars: try installing the package pastebinit... then run "tail -n 500 | pastebinit"
[20:46] <Slart> omars: copy paste the url it prints out here
[20:46] <arrenlex> Slart: You should probably specify the file to tail or he is going to be waiting for that command to terminate for a very long time. :)
[20:47] <Slart> omars: try installing the package pastebinit... then run "tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[20:47] <Slart> omars: last line was wrong..
[20:47] <Slart> arrenlex: I really should get some coffee... thanks again
[20:47] <istvan_> anyone know why ffmpeg -i inputvideo.flv -fs 100 out.flv isn't creating a file that is 100 (mb?) in size? rather it is creating a file that is 0kb size
[20:47] <hackwins> kevin__: how can i do in console?
[20:48] <nomike> good evening
[20:48] <kevin__> i don't know
[20:48] <omars> slart, so it should be tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[20:48] <omars> ?
[20:48] <nomike> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Laptop with an ATI VGA Chip.
[20:48] <Slart> omars: correct.. it will paste the last 500 lines of your system log to a pastebin and give you the url
[20:48] <arrenlex> istvan_: Read the commands output, there is most likely an error there.
[20:48] <abouche1> how do i get thunderbird for hardy
[20:49] <hackwins> kevin__:yes i know the program to mount and configure devices but i dont have space on my harddisk thanks
[20:49] <istvan_> arrenlex: i will check again, but i didn't see any
[20:49] <GaMbi_DK> Hi guys.. Am I paranoid or do my root pass keep changing? I had a linux pro to reset my pass (forgot the old one I thought at first) but now my new pass isnt right too.. two days ago... so Im sure then I havent forgotten the pass(well kinda sure)
[20:49] <nomike> However when I play a video (e.g. mplayer or visualisation in totem) the screen flickers...
[20:49] <omars> Slart, http://pastebin.com/f2e60eae3
[20:49] <GaMbi_DK> also.. if I just forgot the pass.. is there a way to reset it easy? without formating?
[20:49] <nomike> Any Idea what could cause this? (bwt: i use the accelerated propietary driver)
[20:49] <Windstone> anyone from sweden here?
[20:49] <arrenlex> nomike: Try running it as "mplayer -vo x11 <file>" and see if it fixes the problem.
[20:50] <omars> Slart, maybe it can help to tell you that i use eclipse regularly..
[20:50] <arrenlex> nomike: Are you running compiz?
[20:50] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: we dont have a root passoword usually, we use sudo
[20:50] <jokkaa> !ping
[20:50] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, thats the one :P
[20:50] <GaMbi_DK> the pass for sudo
[20:50] <Slart> Windstone: there is a swedish channel somewhere.. #ubuntu-se or something
[20:50] <Slart> !swedish
[20:50] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: with sudo you use your own password
[20:50] <afancy> zsquareplusc: Hi, it still doesnot work http://paste.ubuntu.com/82645/
[20:50] <istvan_> arrenlex: I checked, it seems as though ffmpeg doesn't think that there are any frames...
[20:50] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, yea.. and it is this pass iw forgot
[20:51] <arrenlex> istvan_: Is there an error?
[20:51] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: reboot to recovery mode and use "passwd <username>" in the root shell you get then
[20:51] <istvan_> arrenlex: nope. i'll post some of the output. Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 29.97 (30000/1001)
[20:51] <istvan_> Input #0, flv, from 'combined.flv':
[20:51] <istvan_>   Duration: 00:09:58.7, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
[20:51] <istvan_>     Stream #0.0: Video: flv, yuv420p, 1680x1040 [PAR 0:1 DAR 0:1], 29.97 tb(r)
[20:51] <istvan_>     Stream #0.1: Audio: adpcm_swf, 44100 Hz, stereo
[20:51] <FloodBot3> istvan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <istvan_> Output #0, flv, to 'out.flv':
[20:52] <apelgate> hi. how do I make 226.0.0.2 and 226.0.0.3 to loopback addresses like 127.0.0.1 ?
[20:52] <Slart> omars: didn't see anything special in there.. the computer just hangs at random times? not when you do something special?
[20:52] <Niiklas> Hello, if there is anyone that has time to help me please read this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82646/
[20:52] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, "passwd gambi" I will see an encrypted line (guessing it is the pass)
[20:53] <omars> slart, actually it hangs when i use eclipse for a long time
[20:53] <jokkaa> I have a problem. i have a foreign computer on my wireless network... i need to get it off incase to block it.. how can i ping it out?
[20:53] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, what do I do then? :S
[20:53] <afancy> zsquareplusc: do u have any idea? thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/82645/
[20:54] <arrenlex> istvan_: Pastebin that and share the link, please.
[20:54] <istvan_> arrenlex: here is my output http://paste.ubuntu.com/82647/
[20:55] <zsquareplusc> afancy: that looks fine. i'm running out of ideas :/ the usbfs line works here. and of course enabling USB support in the virtual machine settings
[20:55] <Slart> omars: eclipse has it's share of problems.. none of them should bring the ubuntu box down with it though..
[20:55] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: you have a root shell on that box where you dont know the password?
[20:55] <obst_> show all
[20:56] <arrenlex> istvan_: There is a suspicious lack of mention of units for the -fs switch on the ffmpeg manpage. Out of curiosity, what happens if you tack another two zeros onto that number?
[20:56] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: passwd prints a message, but it should not output anything cryptic
[20:56] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, no.. just remember from early tries..
[20:57] <istvan_> arrenlex: then i get a 117kb file... which is good, but still not what i asked for...
[20:57] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, so go to "recovery mode"  and do "passwd [user]" and what should happen? it should print my pass? :O
[20:57] <afancy> zsquareplusc: in the vm settings is anything that i need to set?
[20:57] <istvan_> arrenlex: 117.6 actually
[20:57] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: no, ask you for a new one.
[20:58] <arrenlex> istvan_: That was with 10000?
[20:58] <omars> Slart, btw the performance if very poor, i used hardy and it was much better
[20:58] <istvan_> arrenlex: it was 10000
[20:58] <netsurf3> guys i'm kinda concerened
[20:58] <zsquareplusc> afancy: i only needed to enable "usb", nothing special.
[20:58] <netsurf3> connecting to localhost at port 80
[20:58] <netsurf3> gives me "it works!" in big letters
[20:59] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, got it.. I see where I did my mistake.. thx allot m8
[20:59] <zsquareplusc> netsurf3: you have installed a web server
[20:59] <arrenlex> istvan_: Does it take suffixes? Try -fs 100K
[20:59] <abouche1> how do i install thunderbird?
[20:59] <arrenlex> istvan_: Actually, try ki instead of K
[20:59] <Slart> omars: have you tried switching java runtimes?
[20:59] <istvan_> arrenlex: nope, gives me a 0k file again
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> abouche1 sudo apt-get thunderbird
[21:00] <Slart> abouche1: sudo apt-get install thunderbird.. or just use Add/Remove
[21:00] <netsurf3> zsquareplusc, ahh i did install php a while ago for a forensics toolkit but didnt think that came with it...
[21:00] <arrenlex> istvan_: this is with both K and ki?
[21:00] <omars> Slart, i did, i was trying to make gwt work but it does not support a 64 bit vm so i had to install a 32 bit vm and use it
[21:01] <abouche1> i tried the command line and synaptic
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !info thunderbird
[21:01] <Teisei> Hi! My girlfriend has had this problem since yesterday: Her mouse clicks buttons automatically even though Mouse settings show that these gestures are not enabled
[21:02] <istvan_> arrenlex: yep, both of em
[21:02] <lajjr> sudo aptitude install thunderbird  to install
[21:03] <abouche1> aptitude?
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lajjr if apt-get fails, aptitude is not likely to work
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> abouche1 it must give some error
[21:04] <rose> Hi! How would a little shellscript oneliner look like, that reads stuff from stdin and writes it to stdout? I tried "while read $t; do; echo $t;done" but that doesnt work.
[21:05] <zsquareplusc> rose: cat -
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> rose try /j #bash
[21:06] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, Done :P man that was easy.. I think one of my friends is trying to slap me around.. He was kinda mad becaurse  I put pass so he couldn't install programs and such.. maybe he figgured this trick out too... Is there a way to block root shell? I dont want him to be able to change my pass in 2 min
[21:06] <magicmax> hi guys
[21:06] <GaMbi_DK> sorry for the long text :)
[21:06] <hackwins> # /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0 what i have to do to no automount?
[21:06] <arrenlex> istvan_: It looks like it's not exact. You may have to just play with it until you get under 100k.
[21:06] <hackwins> # /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0                              what i have to do to no automount?
[21:06] <istvan_> arrenlex: ok, thanks!
[21:07] <magicmax> does anyone know how to uninstall a driver completely, not just deactivate
[21:07] <istvan_> arrenlex: what unit do you think it is measuring in? bytes?
[21:07] <arrenlex> istvan_: Hell if I know. It might even be bits.
[21:07] <istvan_> wow, ok thanks!
[21:07] <hackwins> # /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0                              what i have to do to no automount?
[21:07] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: you could remove or password protect the recovery point. however then you might need a live cd to do recovery which is more complex. and with a live cd, you can get at the passwords anyway
[21:08] <digitalfallacy> is kdm slower than gnome ?
[21:08] <OsamaK> There was a way to run program in a specific location. something like "command --option=localname" What would be "option"? I used it for checking GIMP translation.. I guess it works with other programs.
[21:08] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: encrpyted partitions are the only weapon against that :/
[21:08] <magicmax> my wireless network card was working, untill i did an automatic update and now its not working... i have the old driver but it wont let me install it cause it says a newer one is already installed
[21:08] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, yea but I bet he dosnt know.. and even if he dose he dosnt have access to a live CD
[21:08] <arrenlex> digitalfallacy: kdm is a login manager, gnome is a desktop environment.
[21:08] <hackwins> is more lighty gnome than kde
[21:09] <arrenlex> digitalfallacy: If you mean kde, then no, it is not. I have used both and have found both to be very snappy.
[21:09] <digitalfallacy> ya i mean kde
[21:09] <digitalfallacy> not kdm sorry
[21:09] <hackwins> kde requires more memory
[21:09] <hackwins> # /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0                              what i have to do to no automount?
[21:10] <arrenlex> hackwins: really? I've never noticed anything like that. Do you have a source?
[21:10] <digitalfallacy> i am saying so because i just did a fresh of ibex with kde and my laptop is responding slower than it did on gnome
[21:10] <sthomae> hi folks
[21:10] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, Do I remove the "recovery mode" or just the "root shell"?
[21:10] <hackwins> not but i read and experimented whith slow coputers
[21:10] <magicmax> my wireless network card was working, untill i did an automatic update and now its not working... i have the old driver but it wont let me install it cause it says a newer one is already installed
[21:11] <digitalfallacy> is it something u also observed ..or it can be the desktop effects are making it look so
[21:11] <zsquareplusc> GaMbi_DK: the root shell only. but the better way would be password protect that entry. i think grub can do that
[21:12] <sthomae> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hoary running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[21:14] <loz> S.O.S, i am going to hang myself with my Ethernet cable, could any one help me with the instalation of a realtek wifi card, i just don't get it, i have searched the web, but to no avail, anyone gemmed up on the case?*
[21:14] <gusto5> okay, first of all
[21:14] <sthomae> loz: not with ubuntu, on gentoo i could help you
[21:15] <smelian> hello please how can i upgrade my source list ?
[21:15] <mphill> loz is it a realtek 2400, 2500, or 2570?
[21:15] <loz> stomae: maybe you could, as there is something that i read about compiling, and that is gentoo's speciality right?
[21:15] <dr_willis> smelian,  upgrade to what exactly?
[21:16] <loz> mphill:Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[21:16] <loz> that is what lspci come's up with
[21:16] <loz> so the card is recognized
[21:16] <mphill> loz: have you tried to the ndiswrapper route?
[21:16] <GaMbi_DK> zsquareplusc, got it.. I got allot of stuff to work with here :) thx alot for the help m8! cya around
[21:16] <loz> mpill, well, not to sure how it works
[21:17] <smelian> dr_willis : i just install ubuntu but when i go to synaptic i dont find some prog like awn - emesene - compizconfig ( and in my home i can fine them im using ubuntu 8.10
[21:17] <sthomae> loz: install ndiswrapper, use it to load xp driver, tadaaa
[21:17] <loz> i don't think it's thateasy, as i have the amd 64 version
[21:18] <ompaul> !wireless
[21:18] <Hikefu> smelian, you may need to enable additional repositories
[21:18] <Hikefu> !repositories
[21:18] <sthomae> so you need xp64 driver... tadaaa again
[21:18] <mphill> loz:  type: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[21:18] <mphill> loz: get the 64 bit version of the windows driver
[21:18] <magicmax> guys i want to install an older network card driver cause the latest one isnt working, but it wont let me cause it says a newer ones already on, how do i take it off??
[21:19] <smelian> Hikefu: how ?
[21:19] <loz> mphill: on the disk with the drivers i have sevral choices
[21:19] <loz> would it be the x 64?
[21:19] <mphill> loz: I believe so
[21:19] <sthomae> hmmm x64... 64bit, decisions
[21:20] <sthomae> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hoary running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[21:20] <pswii60> Hello, how can I add my bnc details to xchat?
[21:20] <magicmax> blacklist ath_pci
[21:20] <dennda> sthomae: you know hoary is approximately 2000 years old?
[21:20] <pswii60> Also, how can I change the background to a different color?
[21:21] <Hikefu> smelian, there should be something in synaptic or from the gnome panel (system or something)... I don't use gnome, I use openbox. Or, you could just go to a terminal and run gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment various repos.
[21:21] <zsquareplusc> sthomae: hoary? not hardy?
[21:21] <magicmax> guys i want to install an older network card driver cause the latest one isnt working, but it wont let me cause it says a newer ones already on, how do i take it off??
[21:21] <carlf> /wc/
[21:21] <sthomae> oups, yes hardy... i mixed it up as i use it since hoary
[21:21] <Hikefu> could anyone point smelian to the settings area for adding repos in ubuntu -- I'm using openbox and can't remember which menu it's under.
[21:22] <linkmaster03> anyone know why quiteinsane and xsane both hang at startup on "scanning devices"? I can print to my printer, and I have scanned from it many times before.
[21:22] <smelian> Hikefu: thank u man
[21:22] <nbeebo> whats the name of the quake-styled terminal?
[21:22] <pswii60> Hello ??
[21:22] <nbeebo> hello
[21:22] <pswii60> Anybody have answers?
[21:22] <Hikefu> smelian, no problem.
[21:23] <jgoguen> !anyone | pswii60
[21:23] <Slart> nbeebo: yaquake I think
[21:23] <DrHalan> hey, ive green blue and red dots moving around my screen. is my x broken?
[21:23] <nbeebo> slart, thanks ill try
[21:23] <magicmax> "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)"
[21:24] <Slart> !info yeahconsole | nbeebo
[21:24] <magicmax> thats my wireless card
[21:24] <nbeebo> slart, its kde-app... damn
[21:24] <pswii60> Hello, how can I add my bnc details to xchat?
[21:24] <pswii60> !anybody jgoguen
[21:24] <linkmaster03> nbeebo: yakuake
[21:24] <linkmaster03> nbeebo: also tilda
[21:24] <Arkturus> Hi =), I was wondering if a 20 gig partition was enough to install and use ubuntu 8.10?
[21:24] <Slart> nbeebo: try yeahconsole.. it's pretty nice
[21:24] <dr_willis> Arkturus,  yes.
[21:24] <Slart> Arkturus: enough and some to spare
[21:24] <linkmaster03> nbeebo: yeahconsole is gtk, so is tilda. yakuake is kde
[21:25] <badawi> nbeebo: there's guake iirc
[21:25] <dr_willis> Arkturus,  i got ubuntu on a 4gb thumbdrive.. :)
[21:25] <nbeebo> linkmaster03, yeah i was looking for tilda, slart, ill try and tell u what i think about it :))
[21:25] <nbeebo> badawi ill try that too thanks
[21:25] <Slart> !info tilda
[21:25] <Arkturus> dr_willis, thank you =], ah very nice! work well? proformance is good?
[21:25] <dr_willis> Arkturus,  its useable
[21:26] <jgoguen> pswii60: try the solution in this xchat forum thread - http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=12551
[21:26] <Arkturus> dr_willis, good to hear =]
[21:26] <nbeebo> slart, yeahconsole doesnt have gui settings manager?
[21:27] <Slart> nbeebo: not sure.. it might just be a config file
[21:27] <shekhar> hi can someone help me? my control key has stopped working and i can't figure out why or how to fix it
[21:27] <nbeebo> damn
[21:28] <sthomae> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hardy running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[21:28] <magicmax> guys i want to install an older network card driver cause the latest one isnt working, but it wont let me cause it says a newer ones already on, how do i take it off??
[21:29] <JuJuBee> I am having trouble burning some ISO's of movies.  Some burn fine and play fine.  Others burn, but won't play in my dvd player.
[21:29] <JuJuBee> They will play in VLC however.
[21:29] <rio> hi im trying to use networkmanager to manage my eth0, but it says "device not managed"
[21:30] <nbeebo> anyone know how i can get gnome-menu without gnome-panel? must i use widgets?
[21:30] <rio> and the network lists shows "Ifupdown (eth0)" which is readlonly
[21:30] <Bart_> Can someone tell me how to hide the Lock screen option
[21:30] <Bart_> and switch user
[21:30] <enzotib> rio, eth0 is configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:31] <rio> enzotib: just deleted everything related to eth0 in the interface sfile
[21:31] <smelian> guys i get this error when i try to update : W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[21:32] <nbeebo> anyone know how i can get gnome-menu without gnome-panel? must i use widgets?
[21:33] <rohdef> anyone who knows when alphas of 9.04 will be released and what we might have to look forward to (apart from OOo3)?
[21:33] <Bart_> nbeebo, doesn't it work with alt + f1 ?
[21:34] <zsquareplusc> rohdef: see #ubuntu+1
[21:34] <bean-oh> is there a channel that would be good please to look for assistance with trouble in ConnectionManager?
[21:34] <bean-oh> *place
[21:34] <nbeebo> 9 = 2009 ,04 = april
[21:34] <rohdef> zsquareplusc, ok, thanks
[21:34] <nbeebo> bart_: not without gnome-panel
[21:36] <eseven73> how do i reset apt? its hanging when trying to install dokuwiki and when i try to install other things it says to do dpkg --configure -a but still hangs
[21:37] <d1gital> interesting graphics question: X crashes using Ion and Fluxbox but runs fine using GNOME and compiz.  I'm using nvidia
[21:37] <Maveas> How do I give myself permission to create a shared folder? :S
[21:38] <d1gital> maveas: gksudo nautilus
[21:38] <henriker> Any possibility that someone could checkout this thread:http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/damnsmalllinux-42/damn-small-linux-on-libretto-110ct-cant-start-x-and-bootup-issues-686693/ Any kind of advice would help
[21:38] <Maveas> Very nice
[21:38] <henriker> it is ubuntu related of course
[21:38] <pswii60> Where IS Network settings in xchat?
[21:38] <Maveas> Thanks
[21:39] <d1gital> np
[21:39] <eseven73> how do i reset apt? its hanging when trying to install dokuwiki and when i try to install other things it says to do dpkg --configure -a but still hangs
[21:40] <JFC1993> Hello?
[21:40] <JFC1993> Is any one here good at math?
[21:40] <hackwins> yes
[21:40] <chfwiggum> JFC1993: hit it
[21:40] <pswii60> Okay, I have a  bootable usb with Ubuntu  on it. How come when I disconnect it from my pc, it never saves changes to programs, or even programs I used apt-get to get?
[21:41] <digitalvaldosta> I have an issue with 8.10. When I print anything there is a minute delay. What can I do to fix this? In previous version this was not the case.
[21:41] <zleap> the live cd is live
[21:41] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: because you dont have set up casper-rw or casper-cow
[21:41] <JFC1993> Can any one help me with a triple integral?
[21:41] <zleap> so its designed to forget changes when turned off as they are saved to ram i think
[21:41] <Giraffe> JFC1993: huh?
[21:41] <dr_willis>  Try #homework JFC1993
[21:42] <JFC1993> chfwiggum on orders of integration
[21:42] <d1gital> why is my X crashing when i use Ion/Fluxbox?  gnome works fine.
[21:42] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: stay on the channel, so that others can help too :-)
[21:42] <hackwins> digitalvaldosta: if you search in google pleaseeee
[21:42] <pswii60> ok
[21:43] <JFC1993> dr_willis I need smart people and the largest collection of then are on the linux chats.
[21:43] <hackwins> digitalvaldosta: nice to talk with you
[21:43] <digitalvaldosta> for what, hackwins
[21:43] <pswii60> How can I set up "casper-rw or casper-cow"?
[21:43] <eseven73> apt is hanging when trying to install dokuwiki, how do i reset it? even reboot doesnt help
[21:43] <pswii60> so that everything I do, saves.
[21:43] <Scunizi> digitalvaldosta: try reinstalling the printer/driver.. or maybe a different driver if there is one.
[21:43] <digitalvaldosta> just type in printer delay ubuntu 8.10? hackwins
[21:43] <hackwins> for your problem with kubuntu 8.10 and nvidia
[21:43] <henriker> #homework
[21:43] <JFC1993> fine
[21:43] <xenocampanoli> I am not getting most of my diagnostics anymore into my error log file from apache2 using ssl/https.  What do I do to turn these diagnostics back on?
[21:43] <chfwiggum> JFC1993: try ubuntu-offtopic
[21:44] <JFC1993> k
[21:44] <pswii60> zsquareplusc?
[21:44] <dr_willis> I dont even know how you would 'discuss' complex math on irc.
[21:44] <d1gital> lol willis good point
[21:45] <xat_> does anyone here have an idea of how to create a static /dev setup rather than relying on udev on boot?
[21:45] <hackwins> mmm "problem with nvidia ubuntu 8.10 ubuntu"
[21:45] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:45] <xenocampanoli> Does anyone ever use the #ubuntu-server group?
[21:46] <pswii60> Thanks zsquareplusc
[21:46] <sthomae> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hardy running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[21:46] <guntbert> JFC1993: if I read right and you've got a math problem: the people in #math are really helpful
[21:46] <Scunizi> hackwins: you having issues with nvidia drivers?
[21:47] <Bryan> I know this is rather lame, but whats the command to display your hardware (IE how much ram you have, how fast your cpu is. Via the command line)
[21:48] <sthomae> Bryan: df, free, htop, top....
[21:48] <Scunizi> Bryan: sudo lshw
[21:48] <Setebos> I have Opera installed and it is set as the preferred browser. Nautilus still has Firefox set to open HTML files. How can I change this to Opera?
[21:48] <hackwins> digitalvaldosta: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[21:48] <Bryan> Scunizi, thank you!
[21:48] <Bryan> that was it.
[21:48] <Scunizi> Bryan: np
[21:49] <zsquareplusc> JFC1993: maxima ;-)
[21:49] <pswii60> zsquareplusc: If I already have a bootable usb drive, can I just download something that'll auto save to it? Or do  I have to recreate the whole usb drive?
[21:49] <hateball> Setebos⡶ Rightclick a html file and choose preferences
[21:50] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: one of the methods involve that you make a partition for the persistent things -> gparted. but maybe you can also make a file and edit the settings in isolinux.cfg. i've not done it myself.
[21:50] <Setebos> hateball: Okay, I got it. Thanks
[21:51] <pswii60> Anybody know what to edit?
[21:51] <henriker> Does anybody know what may be wrong if grub reads the hd fine, but the ubuntu alternate installer cannot read the hd at all?
[21:51] <hackwins> pswii60:edit what
[21:51] <eseven73> ur
[21:51] <d1gital> why would my X server crash when i attempt to use Ion but have no problem with GNOME?
[21:51] <DrHalan> hey, why do i have to be root to bind to port 40?
[21:51] <darrylb> Is there anyway to run kernel 2.6.25+ on 8.04?
[21:51] <methods> my wireless driver is not loading during boot
[21:51] <eseven73> how do i change the default timeout of sudo from its 15 mins to something like 1 hour?
[21:52] <pswii60> hackwins, isolinux.cfg so it can save automatically everything that I download/change.
[21:52] <hackwins> digital: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[21:52] <slayton> I can't burn cd's for some reason... when I try to burn with gnomebaker I get the following error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/82658/
[21:52] <darrylb> Is there anyway to run kernel 2.6.25+ on 8.04 without compiling a custom kernel? Or are you stuck with 2.6.24? (Sorry, should have been specific the first time).
[21:52] <retour> need help with mkudffs and DVD-RAM to format it to full capacity
[21:52] <Balau> DrHalan: yes, because the port is < 1000
[21:53] <DrHalan> Balau, so does apache run as root too?
[21:53] <dr_willis> eseven73,  its mentioned in the sudoers man pages I belive.. and at many google sites on 'sudo security timeout settings'   I forget the exact setting
[21:53] <Bart_> Can someone tell me how to hide the Lock screen and switch usser option
[21:53] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: it looks like the common method is: move partitions with gparted and make a ext3 partition on the free space and label that partition "casper-rw". the cd contents can be left on a 750MB fat partition
[21:53] <eseven73> thx dr_willis
[21:54] <d1gital> hackwins: none of those seem to describe my problem.. and i;m running 7.10
[21:54] <Balau> DrHalan I can't check but I suppose that it runs as root, not sure if you can do otherwise
[21:55] <pswii60> zsquareplusc, does it matter fat32 or 16?
[21:55] <hackwins> sorry im confused whit other user
[21:55] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: i dont think so. unless fat16 cant format 750MB. but if you already have the stick, just shrink the current partition
[21:55] <methods> what chapter in the handbook talks about managing modules at boot time ?
[21:56] <DrHalan> Balau, thing is i am writing my own little web frontend but i would like the app not to run as root. do you know if there is maybe a way to make port 40 a "speical case"?
[21:56] <guntbert> DrHalan: most servers are *started* as root, bind to their port and then give up the privileges
[21:57] <mia_tech> EEE
[21:57] <MetalliMyers> hai U guise
[21:57] <pswii60> zsquareplusc, could you check your pm for a min please?
[21:57] <MetalliMyers> I'm here and ready tbh
[21:57] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: i don't use xchat ;-)
[21:57] <pswii60> What do you use?
[21:58] <zsquareplusc> chatzilla
[21:58] <pswii60> oh
[21:58] <_cb> I want to do a fresh install of 8.1 on top of 8.04 but keep all my data and settings. I know too do dpkg –get-selections > mypackages.txt
[21:58] <_cb> sudo dpkg –set-selections < mypackages.txt sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade to install the applications. I know to copy my home folder.
[21:58] <_cb> What to do I do to insure my program seetings come across? Ie So I don't have to set evolution?
[21:58] <pswii60> chatzilla > xchat?
[21:58] <MetalliMyers> http://www.espn.com
[21:58] <jokkaa> All my folders with . in front of their name, wich are supposed to be hidden.. are visible.. how can i get them invisible again?
[21:58] <guntbert> DrHalan: why must it be port 40 anyway?
[21:58] <DrHalan> guntbert: cause that is the http port isn't it?
[21:58] <zsquareplusc> _cb: backup /etc too for system wide settings. user settings are in your home
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> MetalliMyers What was the purpose of that link?
[21:59] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: i don't know, just use what suits best for you.
[21:59] <d1gital> that was really wierd.. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf crashed X. does that even make sense? gedit usually works...
[21:59] <pswii60> isn't the command sudo apt-get install chatzilla?
[22:00] <_cb> zsquareplusc, Are /etc and home the only 2 folders I need to be concerned with?
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> d1gital running a gui ap under sudo is a very very bad idea.
[22:00] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: its a firefox extension. but there is also a version in the repos afaik. you can search with "apt-cache search"
[22:00] <d1gital> jack_sparrow why?
[22:00] <guntbert> DrHalan: no, http is on 80 as standard, but you can point your browser to any port you want as in http://my.server.pvt:1400, which would use port 1400
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> d1gital If you have made a habit of that in the past, it could be a source of problems
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[22:00] <saurabh> hello
[22:00] <dr_willis> jokkaa,  most file managers have a hide/show hidden files setting. they are not really hidden.. they are just 'not shown' by specific apps as a common way to clean things up
[22:00] <porter1> Does anyone here know how to get my ipod nano 4g to work with rhythmbox?
[22:01] <nimbus> anyone use an ati radeon 4650 have any tips to reduce the flickering issue?
[22:01] <slavik> bugzilla, where does it keep mailing logs when smtp_debug is enabled?
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !ipod
[22:01] <pswii60> what's the closest thing to mirc? lol
[22:01] <pswii60> any idea zsquareplusc ?
[22:01] <dr_willis> pswii60,  I use xchat under windows and linux..
[22:01] <DrHalan> awesome, thanks guntbert
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> pswii60 xchat, with a little reconfiguring
[22:01] <saurabh> i have removed network manager from ubuntu8.10. now there is problem in shut down wat to do
[22:01] <saurabh> i have removed network manager from ubuntu8.10. now there is problem in shut down wat to do
[22:01] <russell__> what is a good tool to resize my vista partition to give ubuntu more room?
[22:01] <guntbert> DrHalan: you're welcome :)
[22:01] <pswii60> Yeah I'm using xchat now
[22:02] <pswii60> I'm just not seeing where to input bnc info lol
[22:02] <zsquareplusc> _cb: hm.. /var also contains "changing" information. such as /var/www and some apps may have some data there. but maybe you can live without copying that one when you do a fresh setup as you described above
[22:02] <saurabh> i have removed network manager from ubuntu8.10. now there is problem in shut down wat to do
[22:02] <dr_willis> russell__,  vista has its own tools to resiz vista partitions.. but you may need to use gparted to expand the linux partition.
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> pswii60   /j #xchat
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat >  aurabh
[22:02]  * dr_willis has no idea what 'bnc' info is.
[22:02] <saurabh> i have removed network manager from ubuntu8.10. now there is problem in shut down wat to do
[22:02] <whyameye> trying to run a 32 bit in a 64 bit env. /usr/lib32/quicktime1 is segfaulting on me. How might I debug. Works fine on 32 bit OS.
[22:02] <russell__> dr_willis: thank you sir
[22:02] <_cb> zsquareplusc, thanks!. Now I just need to work up the nerve ;)
[22:02] <shadowwulf> i have a few games like trackballs and extreme tux racer that when they go to full screen .. i cant see it and i get a out of range or input error depending on LCD type ... is there a way to get them to switch to winodwed mode ?
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> saurabh Please STOP repeating
[22:02] <jokkaa> dr_willis, thx. realy made it for me
[22:02] <saurabh> srry
 perhaps reinstall the tool.. or tell the channel why you removed it..and try to fix the original problem
[22:03] <pswii60> I would really like to save my settings/programs so there on my usb drive everytime I disconnect it
[22:03] <nimbus> Shadowwulf, do you use ati?
[22:03] <pswii60> So I better listen to what zsquareplusc said :P
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pswii60 look into persistent boot
[22:03] <shadowwulf> nimbus, nvidia
[22:03] <|_steve_|> I've a Logitech webcam with id 046d:08da. I have downloaded gspca-source.  I can't get my audio or video out.  Why?
[22:03] <dr_willis> pswii60,  theres ways to make a persistant usb live-cd type thing. :) in 8.10
[22:04] <nimbus> try disabling compiz before playing a game.
[22:04] <nimbus> See if that helps.
[22:04] <DrHalan> guntbert, if i buy an url somewhere i can also just set it to forward to that port i guess?
[22:04] <pswii60> Yeah, I'm using a bootable usb drive now
[22:04] <pswii60> just nothing saves
[22:04] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:04] <shadowwulf> nimbus, how would i do that ?
[22:05] <nimbus> Get "compiz fusion icon" from add programs menu
[22:05] <nimbus> that is the easiest way
[22:05] <guntbert> DrHalan: you cannot buy urls, tell me what you are trying to accomplish
[22:05] <nimbus> then start it. it is under your applications> system tool
[22:05] <|_steve_|> I would like to do webcam with my family.  I have Intrepid
[22:05] <eigma> I'm getting "E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6" on apt-get dist-upgrade from Gutsy to Intrepid.. any ideas?
[22:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[22:06] <DrHalan> guntbert, i have a little server and wanted to add a web-backend to it
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> eigma You do mean gutsy-hardy then intrepid right
[22:06] <|_steve_|> Jack, I'm a newbie and haven't found an answer in stuff like that
[22:06] <shadowwulf> nimbus, same error ...out of range or input not supported
[22:06] <eigma> ugh, I just realized I'm "skipping" a version.. I'll dist-upgrade to hardy first
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> |_steve_| THen you need to read more carefully
[22:06] <eigma> this server actually had feisty last night, so I want to bring it all the way to Intrpid
[22:07] <nimbus> shadowwulf, did you turn off compiz and switch to metacity?
[22:07] <shadowwulf> nimbus, i did
[22:07] <|_steve_|> I will try
[22:07] <nimbus> not sure then
[22:07] <zsquareplusc> eigma: if its a server you dont want to upgrade every 6 months, stay at hardy and jump from LTS to LTS next time
[22:08] <slavik> bugzilla, where does it keep mailing logs when smtp_debug is enabled?
[22:08] <eigma> zsquareplusc: cool, thakns for the tip
[22:08] <shadowwulf> nimbus, is there a way to make the game go to a windowed mode ?
[22:08] <nimbus> so these problems only occur in windowed mode?
[22:09] <methods> why isn't there a preference tool for managing boot modules ?
[22:09] <guntbert> DrHalan: not sure if I understand your needs: you can have your web-server listen on any port, and of course you can put a link with that port in the url into any web-page, but (as an aside) you should learn a little about networking and security before writing your own server
[22:09] <shadowwulf> nimbus, the problem happens in full screen mode ,... if the game starts windowed ... everything is fine
[22:10] <nimbus> shadowwulf, sounds like an issue with the refresh rate.
[22:10] <DrHalan> guntbert, what exactly do you think is important to learn ?
[22:11] <koshar1> methods there is, the modules file and the modules blacklist. otherwise initrams
[22:11] <shadowwulf> nimbus,  know of a way to fix it ? or a hotkey to make a game go windowed mode ?
[22:11] <whyameye> why would a 32 bit library crash in a 64 bit os env.?
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[22:12] <methods> koshar1: yea but this is needed for a non command based user.... and where is this information in the handbook ?
[22:12] <guntbert> DrHalan: not one thing exactly, only "a little server" in the big bad world of hackers,rootkits,spambots,... seems a bit scary :)
[22:12] <Guest73448> how do I limit the amount of operation choices on the startup screen???   I have 8 for ubuntu
[22:12] <dr_willis> Guest73448,   You mean the GRUB boot menu?
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:13] <Guest73448> yes and thx
[22:13] <zsquareplusc> rather sounds like too many old kernels
[22:13] <whyameye> ok what IRC channel might help me sort through running 32 bit binaries in a 64 bit OS?
[22:13] <nimbus> I am not sure, shadowwulf. I am not sure I understand the problem but I would next try to look at the monitor settings (resolution, refresh)
[22:13] <dr_willis> Guest73448,  menu.lst has an option for the # of kernels to show.. You can set it to some # like 2 or 3, and rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[22:13] <Balau> Guest73448 you could apt-get remove old linux images
[22:13] <_cb> i am going to do a fresh install of Ibex on top of Heron. I am saving my /Home and /etc folders. Do I use the GUI or is there a command that will work better? (Do I need to worry about 'hidden files?')
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot > whyameye
[22:14] <Akiva> Hello everyone, I have a slightly off topic question/request... I recently moved and have a really terrible internet connection... I run Ubuntu (of course) an am in desparate need of some sort of solo games to play on my pc when I need to decompress. can anyone make any suggestions? Please, no COD4 and such. as my system just isn't good enough/
[22:14] <koshar1> methods man modules is the information,
[22:14] <dr_willis> _cb,  how are you doing a 'fresh install' 'on top of'  ?   - why not just do a clean install?
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !games > Akiva
[22:14] <zsquareplusc> _cb: "cp -ax" makes archive copies, recursive, but it wont cross mount points
[22:15] <Akiva> I am well open to various styles of games, but like I said, it must be able to be played offline
[22:15] <fushorts> what is the folder that the mouse pointers are stored in?
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Akiva I like sauerbratten and frozen bubble etc
[22:15] <dr_willis> Akiva,  freecol, and wesnoth are worth playing also. :)
[22:15] <_cb> dr_willis I meant a clean install. I am going to delete all the Heron partitions, install Ibex and copy /home /etc back
[22:15] <Akiva> ubottu: Sorry, let me clarify, I don't need them to be open source, etc. not your typical games roundup on an Ubuntu thread... It can require WINe and a purchase
[22:16]  * Akiva was duped by ubutto
[22:16] <nimbus> all hail technoviking
[22:16] <dr_willis> Akiva,  i can also get most of the PopCap type casual games to wortk with wine also
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Akiva See the link I gave .. asking what games are good is not a real support issue
[22:16] <zsquareplusc> _cb: when your partitioning, conside putting home on a separate partition. one thing less to care about next time (wont save you from backupping though)
[22:16] <Technoviking> hail nimbus
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Technoviking nimbus   OT
[22:17] <fushorts> anyone know where the mouse pointers are kept?  what folder they reside in?
[22:17] <DrHalan> guntbert: but what do you mean i can't buy URLs?
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> DrHalan But a universal Resource locator?
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> buy
[22:17] <shrapnel> it looks like Intrepid now allows number pad keys to repeat in "mouse keys" mode, which basically makes mouse keys useless
[22:17] <_cb> Currently I have home on a separate partition. Will Ibex discover it?
[22:17] <Akiva> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks, I will check it, but most of these games leave a lot to be desired.
[22:18] <Akiva> Wesnoth is fun for a bit but horrible incomplete
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Akiva
[22:18] <_cb> zsquareplusc, Currently I have home on a separate partition. Will Ibex discover it?
[22:18]  * zsquareplusc has made a gpxe boot that runs the network install of ubuntu with just 200kB. but where would i put that online now..
[22:18] <shrapnel> when you hold an arrow key down and it starts to repeat, mouse keys interprets it as rapid keypresses, making the cursor move *super* *slow*
[22:18] <Akiva> Thakns all
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> _cb You will probably need to point ibex to it
[22:18] <guntbert> DrHalan: what you *can* buy is a domain name, though
[22:18] <shrapnel> bug
[22:18] <zsquareplusc> _cb: you can tell it to use in the installer.
[22:19] <jokkaa> How do i open pictures from the terminal?
[22:19] <shrapnel> jokkaa: try 'eog filename.jpg'
[22:19] <shrapnel> jokkaa: or 'gimp filename.jpg'
[22:20] <zsquareplusc> jokkaa: text console only or within X
[22:20] <Balau> jokkaa: "gnome-open filename" works wonders on many types of file
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jokkaa Do you have gui or just cli
[22:20] <jokkaa> thx worked
[22:21] <Texou> hi
[22:21] <Maveas> Texou, hi?
[22:21] <btoogood> hi there
[22:22] <Texou> did someone heard of vibuntu 1.1  release?
[22:22] <macjason0607> guys .. how do i make it so that every application that i open up stays the size that i want it ?
[22:22] <Jared555> is ebox a good control panel when you can get it installed?
[22:22] <Morydd> I'm having some trouble getting NFS shares working. The server is Debian Sid, Client is Hardy. No changes have been made on the server recently.
[22:22] <benbloom> after reboot, I have to run "#ifconfig eth1 down" before nm will connect to that device. eth1 (my wireless card) is not mentioned in my /etc/network/interfaces file. how is ifconfig bringing it up in the first place? how do I get it to be handled by nm?
[22:23] <methods> koshar1:  yea but this wans't done for me automaticlaly when i added the driver through teh restricted driver tools adn then it's not explained anywhere in the handbook so how does a normal person know what to do ....
[22:23] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[22:23] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[22:23] <_cb> On Heron, based on a book I read,  I had a /home, /boot, /(root), (swap), /home,/tmp, /usr, /var partitions. Which should I 'blow out' prior to doin an Ibex install? Should I add an /etc partition?
[22:24] <Niiklas> anyone know which song this is in the background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pop0eAUbUak
[22:24] <kate__> bye bye
[22:25] <macjason0607> i don't hear anything
[22:25] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: you provide more details?
[22:25] <powert001> tonyyarrusso: are you there?
[22:25] <osotogari> 'lo all. Has anyone seen a problem with audacious and playing files over a smb share??
[22:25] <benbloom> Niiklas: it's enya
[22:27] <Morydd> zsquareplusc: the only other thing I'm seeing is in /var/log/messages "Dec  8 12:46:03 ophelia kernel: [ 7932.742209] rpcbind: server locutis not responding, timed out"
[22:27] <moepman> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hardy running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[22:27] <malv> is there a bug in the alternate 64 bit installer which gives you this error saying that you need to insert a cd?
[22:28] <Morydd> ophelia is the client, locutis the server
[22:28] <benbloom> Niiklas: it's called "Only Time" by Enya
[22:28] <osotogari> 'lo all. Has anyone seen a problem with audacious and playing files over a smb share??
[22:28] <Guest73448> dr_willis menu.lst....  where is it located?  I cant do it hack sparrows way///
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> benbloom Please dont encourage ot discussion
[22:29] <Morydd> I'm able to access locutis vis ssh, and I restarted portmap, nfs-kernel-server, and nfs-common on the server.
[22:29] <jimmy__> When i try to boot ubuntu 8.10 it hangs or freezes then
[22:29] <jimmy__> i have to hold space bar to finish boot
[22:29] <ruiz> ruiz
[22:29] <nikin> hi. I want to ise qemu to havea running backup of the system.. if i know right dd-ing the harddrive will do the trick... but theproblm is that not all the harddriveis full with partitions.. and i want to backup the drive without the empty spacewith dd. Any ideaas howto do that?
[22:29] <benbloom> !offtopic > Niiklas
[22:29] <macjason0607> strange my sound isn't working
[22:29] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: and exportfs on the server lists your directory and ip range for the client
[22:29] <powertool08> Can anyone here help me set up a PXE clonezilla server?
[22:29] <jimmy__> hello
[22:29] <jimmy__> hypnos
[22:30] <btoogood> jimmy__: hi
[22:30] <jimmy__> I am trying to make contact
[22:30] <jimmy__> Btoogood
[22:30] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: they have a small howto on their website
[22:30] <benbloom> back to my ontopic question-- after reboot, I have to run "#ifconfig eth1 down" before nm will connect to that device. eth1 (my wireless card) is not mentioned in my /etc/network/interfaces file. how is ifconfig bringing it up in the first place? how do I get it to be handled by nm?
[22:30] <macjason0607> as far as my sound not playing .. should i dmesg the output ?
[22:30] <Morydd> zsquareplusc: yes. /home/sean      192.168.19.0/255.255.255.0
[22:30] <powertool08> zsquareplusc: I've looked at it and I have some questions it didn't answer
[22:31] <Morydd> Note that this NFS share worked previously.
[22:31] <moepman> i have a problem here, my sister has ubuntu hardy running, and everytime the "save as..." dialog should show up, the program that started this dialog produces a segfault, what can i do? i have no access to the computer atm, but ill try your hints tomorow
[22:31] <samile> macjason0607: try devil's pie its in the repositories
[22:31] <moepman> will maybe anybody answer me sometimes?
[22:31] <Guest73448> dr_willis   does it matter what version I am using ...  kubuntu 8.10   64 bit
[22:31] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[22:31] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[22:31] <Balau> macjason0607: it is possible that two program are trying to access the audio at once, for example Totem and a flash plugin in firefox
[22:32] <chupy> why firefox in ubuntu run so slow??? all ubuntu is so slow more than windows
[22:32] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: and your client has an ip of that range?
[22:32] <DrHalan> chupy, yeah thats what i think sometimes too
[22:32] <Morydd> yes. 192.168.19.25
[22:32] <chupy> it crashes a lot
[22:32] <Scunizi> chupy: your video driver might not be set up correctly.. it's typically not ubuntu but something else in the system that slows it.
[22:32] <Balau> moepman: what software gives her segfaults? you can try to run the program in the terminal, it should output some errors.
[22:32] <macjason0607> did somone say something ?
[22:32] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: you try mount and not nfs urls?
[22:33] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: its off topic here. dont they have a channel?
[22:33] <chupy> maybe is my new mouse?
[22:33] <macjason0607> did somone say anything about my sound problem ?
[22:33] <chupy> i put it with the best speed and in the manual it says that it makes slow computer
[22:33] <powertool08> zsquareplusc: if they do I don't know what it is, #clonezilla and #drbl don't exist
[22:34] <Balau> macjason0607: it is possible that two programs are trying to access the audio at once, for example Totem and a flash plugin in firefox
[22:34] <Morydd> zsquareplusc: I get: /usr/local/sbin/mount.nfs: not using string
[22:34] <Morydd> mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'locutis' failed: timed out, retrying
[22:34] <Scunizi> chupy: could be...
[22:34] <macjason0607> yea
[22:34] <macjason0607> i just changed some settings
[22:34] <macjason0607> wierd
[22:35] <meoblast001> how do i install xulrunner so i can get  No package 'mozilla-xpcom' found to stop happening
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 Hack Sparrow..   You are on thin ice.
[22:35] <zsquareplusc> powertool08: #etherboot is sometimes helpfule if you are using it or gpxe, otherwise /J #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:35] <jimmy__> hello looking for help
[22:35] <Scunizi> Jack_Sparrow: someone morphing your nick?
[22:35] <meoblast001> i installed xulrunner-1.9-dev
[22:35] <jimmy__> my 8.10 ubuntu hangs on booting
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Scunizi No. just being rude
[22:36] <Guest73448> hack???   I just am looking for an alternate way to fix this problem.. not tring to hack anyone
[22:36] <osotogari> 'lo all. Has anyone seen a problem with audacious and playing files over a smb share??
[22:36] <DrHalan> lol
[22:36] <zsquareplusc> Morydd: beyond my knowledge..
[22:36] <jimmy__> i have to push space bar to get it to boot
[22:36] <powertool08> zsquareplusc: ok, thanks
[22:36] <jimmy__> hello
[22:36] <Morydd> zsquareplusc:  thanks for the help anyway
[22:37] <Guest73448> jack_sparrow  the list came up but what do I do with it
[22:37] <DrHalan> jimmy__: run in recovery mode and look waht the console output is
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 <Guest73448> dr_willis menu.lst....  where is it located?  I cant do it hack sparrows way///          Is what I am talking about
[22:37] <martin-de-1983> hi, is here anyone who uses a canon ip4000r using cups?! i tried to install the printer but can not print ...
[22:37] <retour> need help with mkudffs and DVD-RAM to format it to full capacity
[22:37] <zsquareplusc> jimmy__: heh, i also have a box that requires to press a key. but its cause of the old XT keyboard connected to PS2
[22:37] <jimmy__> thanks dr halan
[22:37] <Rolaulten> hello...fun little things, I'm trying to install a script (for random wallpapers)...However I have the small issue that I dont know how to run scripts from the command line
[22:37] <jurtti> does anyone here know about installing ubuntu eee from usb?
[22:37] <JON5000> I am using samba and succesfully shareing local folders with windows pc's on the network.  however, unable to share a usb drive which is fat32.  all permissions and ownership correct.  its mounted, etc.  is it possible?
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc > jurtti
[22:37] <Guest73448> jack_sparrow...   hahahaha  ever hear of a typo?   But I like it
[22:37] <Texou> well I wondered if on vibuntu 1.1 there was speech synthetiser; I dont find any info about this
[22:37] <jimmy__> this is a HP laptop
[22:37] <macjason0607> Balau, .. strange thing .. i just opened up youtube and my sound isn't playin .. what do you think could be using the sound driver ?
[22:37] <meoblast001> how do i install mozilla-xpcom... what is the ubuntu package name
[22:38] <macjason0607> i don't think i have anything open right now
[22:38] <osotogari> @ jurtti: have done it recently
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 Not laughing here
[22:38] <jimmy__> I will check in recovery mode
[22:38] <samile> Rolaulten: ./***scriptname*** be careful
[22:38] <jurtti> jack_sparrow: thanks!
[22:38] <gnutron> Morydd: iirc, You can't run NFS without the server's portmap and NFS daemons running
[22:39] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  huh? menu.lst is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:39] <Guest73448> oh please,,,   if you think I said hack on purpuse than you must be pms in...  Nothing was ment by the TYPO!
[22:39] <Rolaulten> samile: just enter the path to the sscript - /home/user/script?
[22:39] <Morydd> gnutron: I believe they are running.
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis I am aware of that
[22:39] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  then what was the question? I missed somthing.
[22:39] <Balau> macjason0607: maybe there's another application that is hanged. Try to log off and log in again from the system and open only firefox
[22:39] <samile> Rolaulten: yes the script must have executable permissions though
[22:39] <moepman> Balau: all programs osing the gnome save as dialog crash whe using it, the message on the console is just a segfault
[22:39] <macjason0607> ok
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis His typo on my name was a bit convienient..
[22:40] <Guest73448> so does this mean you wont help me???
[22:40] <Rolaulten> samile: yea, I did that part with chmod
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest73448 If you mean me.. no
[22:40] <samile> Rolaulten: what output did you get when running the script
[22:40] <Guest73448> my goodness,  I typo all the time the h is right next to the j JACK get over it
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > Guest73448
[22:40] <Morydd> gnutron: do you know a way to check if they are running?
[22:41] <Rolaulten> samile: give me a sec to pastbin this
[22:41] <dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  heh :) ok
[22:41] <gnutron> Morydd: ps aux  should tell, use sudo to insure you see it all.
[22:42] <Rolaulten> samile: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m39f580bd
[22:42] <Balau> moepman: you can try "dpkg-reconfigure nautilus", it should reset some configurations.
[22:42] <Morydd> gnutron: yes. portmap and (several instances of) nfsd show up.
[22:42] <Jared555> what is involved in getting mysql 5.1 up and running on ubuntu?
[22:42] <gnutron> Morydd: try googling it, ubuntu does things differently.
[22:42] <Guest73448> TO ALL looking for help please read......    watch your typo's there are some that are exceptionally sensitive and will not help you  if you make a typo... Have a nice day
[22:42] <Rolaulten> samile: bah, just ment lines8 and 9 but oh well
[22:43] <JFC1993> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JFC1993 Please help with triple integrals
[22:43] <LifesaGarden>  I want to use bitpim for my cellphone but the help files call for a script to be placed in a /etc/hotplug directory and there isn't a hotplug folder in 8.04 .... is that still a feasible practice on that how to?
[22:43] <btoogood> what is a good wusiwyg html editor ie like nvu, I did have Kompozer installed but it kept closing on me, so I uninstalled it
[22:43] <macjason0607> no change in my sound
[22:43] <samile> Rolaulten: do you have the libgnome-perl package installed?
[22:43] <moepman> Balau: ill try that tomorrow
[22:43] <osotogari> @ btoogood: i use bluefish
[22:43] <gnutron> btoogood: bluefish is pretty good
[22:44] <osotogari> @ gnutron: zingggggggggg.... :P
[22:44] <Morydd> my google-fu has failed me thus far. the only thing I've found is a recompiled version of nfs-common, but that didn't help either.
[22:44] <Scunizi> gnutron: but is bluefish wusiwyg
[22:44] <Rolaulten> samile: its not able to find that package in the repos...
[22:44] <btoogood> gnutron: i dont know html so that is why kompozer(nvu) is good because it is like dreamweaver
[22:44] <ogre> what is an open source alternative for making excel spreadsheets?
[22:44] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[22:44] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[22:45] <Scunizi> ogre: there's Openoffice Sheet and gnumeric..
[22:45] <samile> Rolaulten: libgnome2-perl then?
[22:45] <Rolaulten> samile: that one is installed
[22:46] <android60> is it standard for a laptop that can boot from usb to also be able to boot from SD card?
[22:46] <samile> Rolaulten: and libgnome2-gconf-perl?
[22:46] <xat_> android60: yes
[22:46] <nibbler> android60: sd card normally is connected via usb internally
[22:46] <ogre> Scunizi,  ty
[22:46] <android60> ok thanks guys
[22:46] <Rolaulten> samile: libgnome2-gconf-perl is installing...well is now installed
[22:47] <samile> Rolaulten: has that sorted the problem?
[22:47] <Rolaulten> samile: Yep - thanks...to to figure how you were able to glean what lib's needed to be installed
[22:47] <benbloom> after reboot, I have to run "#ifconfig eth1 down" before nm will connect to that device. eth1 (my wireless card) is not mentioned in my /etc/network/interfaces file. how is ifconfig bringing it up in the first place? how do I get it to be handled by nm?
[22:49] <samile> Rolaulten: script used perl(from the output) problem was with gnome(Can't locate Gnome2/GConf.pm) so a quick apt search found it. glad to help.
[22:49] <Scunizi> ogre: keep in mind, if you use macros it's a whole different ballgames in Open Office. Never tried them in gnumeric.  VB isn't used..
[22:51] <JON5000> I am using samba and succesfully shareing local folders with windows pc's on the network.  however, unable to share a usb drive which is fat32.  all permissions and ownership correct.  its mounted, etc.  is it possible?
[22:52] <linux29684> anyone know how to get the live ubuntu (hardy) booted to a powerpc mac?
[22:52] <linux29684> !mac
[22:52] <m1dn1ght> I'm trying to install Cairo-Dock in Hardy and am having some trouble graphically with it.  I do not have compositing but am told I can use it with fake transparency so I do not get a black bock around the icons when I move the mouse over it?  Can anyone give some advice please.
[22:53] <linux29684> anyone know how to get the live ubuntu (hardy) booted to a powerpc mac?
[22:53] <zsquareplusc> linux29684: i don't know about the live cd. but installers are at ports.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <linux29684> zsquareplusc: thanx, but i need to run it on a live cd first, and cannot access the bios because macs don't have bioses to change boot order
[22:54] <dr_willis> linux29684,  last i used a cd in a old PPC mac. I had to hold down the C key' or on some older machines ya have to do other tricks.
[22:54] <zsquareplusc> JON5000: the permissions from the samba side allow to read the stick?
[22:54] <sshirley> Hi everyone. Using the command-line, how do I enable hardware drivers. Using the GUI, I would use System->Administration-> Hardware Drivers.
[22:54] <pswii60> ok so zsquareplusc  you're saying the easiest way for me to be able to save programs/settings/ etc via my usb drive is to do what again?
[22:55] <linux29684> dr_willis: its a mac powerbook g4 2006
[22:55] <deebus> ok, so is there a KDE channel?
[22:55] <deebus> need help with 4.2 stuff
[22:55] <yagga> try the apple key t gives boot devices then choose
[22:55] <DavidCanarias> Hi
[22:55] <dr_willis> linux29684,  i would google for that machine and how to make it boot cd's  Could be a mouse button, or  the C key, or somthing else.
[22:55] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: use gparted to make room and create a partition with ext3 and the label "casper-rw" or "casper-cow" depending on if you want the entire system persistent or just your home
[22:55] <linux29684> dr_willis and yagga: thanks, i'll try c and apple key
[22:55] <deebus> anyone running KDE?
[22:56] <DavidCanarias> Can anyone help me please? When I open my web broswer Mozilla Firefox its very slow. Why could this be?
[22:56] <pswii60> zsquareplusc, instead of using gp could I use the Terminal or no?
[22:56] <deebus> my menu button has disappeared and turned into a USB devices status button instead
[22:56] <deebus> thoroughly useless in its current location
[22:56] <sshirley> Anyone know how to enable hardware drivers using the command-line?
[22:57] <lazarus_lupine> modprobe?
[22:57] <Texou> night  guys
[22:57] <babydaz05209> hey wuts up people
[22:57] <samile> g'night
[22:58] <babydaz05209> wuts this all about
[22:58] <zsquareplusc> pswii60: you could do all these steps manually, but don't ask me :p gparted is so much easier
[22:58] <pswii60> ok
[22:58] <sshirley> lazarus_lupine: I am trying to install the ath5k driver for my Atheros card. I just got the ath5k on there but I need to enable it. modprobe doesn't see the ath5k driver anywhere.
[22:58] <pswii60> and where is gparted stored?
[22:59] <danielbw> i need to change the grid size of the gnome desktop
[22:59] <babydaz05209> ubuntu sucks
[22:59] <danielbw> any way to do that?
[22:59] <sshirley> sshirley@zion:~$ sudo locate ath5k
[22:59] <sshirley> /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/ath5k.ko
[23:00] <DavidCanarias> I am trying to download a driver for my new HP printer. The website is clear enough but when I type in the terminal : sh hplip-2.8.10.run   up comes an error :  sh: Can't open hplip-2.8.10.run   Does anyone know how to overcome this please?
[23:01] <dmg46664> How do I get the sound on this to work. Totem doesn't play anthing for me. tried mozilla-plugin-vlc but it doesn't load for this.
[23:01] <dmg46664> http://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/virr1.html
[23:01] <cliff> hi
[23:02] <myk_robinson> !fonts
[23:03] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:03] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:04] <dmsuperman> I keep getting "console-kit-daemon" crashes errors. It pops up, tells me it crashed, but nothing else happens. I have these regularly. I'm using Hardy.
[23:04] <dmg46664> http://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/virr1.html    can't get the soundclips to work
[23:04] <dmg46664> works in windows
[23:04] <dmg46664> with quicktime
[23:04] <dmg46664> ubuntu 8.10
[23:05] <loquitus_of_borg> Is thunderbird broken on Intrepid? I just installed it and it crashes when I start it.
[23:05] <loquitus_of_borg> some gdk or gtk error
[23:06] <loquitus_of_borg> This is the error: The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
[23:08] <quentin> bonjour
[23:08] <kansan> i have two directories: foo and bar. foo is the parent directory of bar.  i would like to create symbolic links so that all of the files/subdirectories of bar (recursive) will be available from foo as if they were in that directory.  (1) i know symbolic linking can link to one file... but can it handle a case like this?  (2) can apache follow these symbolic links (the motivation here is to cleanup directory structures)
[23:08] <nedwell> While rotating the compiz cube, can you freeze the position and continue to work with the windows displayed as is?
[23:09] <chfwiggum> !ca
[23:09] <dr_willis> nedwell,  you want to work on an 'angled' desktop?
[23:10] <loquitus_of_borg> anybody have thunderbird working in Ubuntu 8.10? mine crashes
[23:10] <nedwell> dr_willis, not usually, but it would help out a lot if i could currently do it.  it looks like i've seen someone in youtube do it, but didn't know if it was actually possible or just video editing.
[23:10] <dsnaike> thunderbird works flawless for me
[23:11] <chfwiggum> loquitus_of_borg: start it from console and paste the output
[23:11] <chfwiggum> loquitus_of_borg: to pastebin
[23:12] <tiyowan> loquitus: Mine works just fine.
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> chfwiggum:
[23:12] <loquitus_of_borg> http://pastebin.com/mc623b95
[23:12] <NotADJ> PAM is letting me login without a password. QAny ideas?
[23:12] <NotADJ> Any ideas*
[23:12] <NotADJ> !pam
[23:12] <sshirley> I am trying to enable a driver using modprobe, but modprobe can't seem to find the module:
[23:12] <sshirley> sshirley@zion:~$ sudo locate ath5k
[23:12] <sshirley> /lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/updates/ath5k.ko
[23:12] <sshirley> Am I missing something?
[23:12] <FloodBot3> sshirley: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <tiyowan> loquitus_of_borg: TB v2 (the one on intrepid) works just fine. I read somewhere that the very latest one causes problems, but I'm not sure.
[23:14] <dr_willis> sshirley,what command are you using?   try ------>   sudo modprobe ath5k
[23:14] <whitehawk> hi
[23:14] <whitehawk> I installed kubuntu on a laptop and since that it reboots in every ~20 minutes. Even in windows
[23:15] <drwelby> So my sound playback on Hardy with Ali 5451 card is fine, but whne  I try the RT kernel sound playback is horribly slow and distorted. Any ideas?
[23:15] <whitehawk> could this be a coincidence?
[23:15] <sshirley> dr_willis: That's exactly the command I used. I got this as a response: FATAL: Module ath5k not found.
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: you have set no password? or why should it allow to log in without.
[23:15] <dsnaike> loquitis_of_Borg how did you install thunderbird
[23:15] <tiyowan> !conky
[23:15] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[23:15] <dr_willis> whitehawk,  i would think so.. check your fans , dust out the thing.. look for lint... (seen that happen befor)
[23:15] <whitehawk> lint?
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> sshirley: i had to install linux-backports-modules to get that driver
[23:16] <dr_willis> sshirley,  and uname -a          shows you are using the   2.6.27-9  kernel?
[23:16] <sshirley> zsquareplusc: That's exactly what I did too. :-)
[23:16] <chairman> what's a good email client because evolution and tbird can't never separate my accounts?
[23:16] <sshirley> dr_willis: Linux zion 2.6.27-9-server #1 SMP
[23:16] <dsnaike> Uninstall try sudo aptitude will handle dependancies much better
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> chairman: i haev separate accounts with thunderbird. doesnt it work for you?
[23:17] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: sudo too!
[23:17] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: And no, it is not set to aut-login
[23:17] <dr_willis> sshirley,  it LOOKS like you may have 2 different kernels and are booted to the other one..     2.6.27-9-server   vs 2.6.27-9-generic
[23:17] <tiyowan> chairman: TB is pretty cool; it can read almost all the webmail accounts too.
[23:17] <nimbus> anyone experience flickering video with compviz effects on with an ati card?
[23:18] <mano> i only get dial up conection with wvdial, but with sudo, i want an icon to activate wvdial, how do i do it ?
[23:18] <NotADJ> nimbus: Only in fullscreen aps.
[23:18] <tiyowan> nimbus: Yes.
[23:18] <nimbus> I get it when playing a movie, full screen or no
[23:18] <NotADJ> mano: gksu <command>
[23:18] <sshirley> dr_willis: yeah. Looks like it. Hmmm. How can I copy the driver from the generic branch to the server branch?
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: then set yourself a password in system->admin->users
[23:18] <nimbus> is there anything to be done about that aside from turning off compiz?
[23:18] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: please restate that... I did not understand
[23:18] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: I have a password, I was messing with Kerberos PAM, and passwords became no longer necessary...
[23:18] <tiyowan> nimbus: I use VLC and go to Tools and set the vid. output to X11.
[23:19] <NotADJ> But I uninstalled Kerberos
[23:19] <dr_willis> sshirley,  no idea.. You may want to update grub, and see what kernels are avail.    Normally you dont just 'copy' modules from one kernel to another.. its possible the server kernel did not incluide that module
[23:19] <cliff> after i installed compiz fusion my computer starts in safe graphics mode?
[23:19] <chairman> but i got 3 gmail accounts and i get emails  to my default one which is gmail too
[23:19] <nimbus> I just tried that tinyowan. it still flickered
[23:19] <tiyowan> nimbus: Which ATI card do you have?
[23:19] <nimbus> 4650
[23:19] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: ok, you you chaged pam config files, so that the final action if no auth method works is login instead of fail
[23:19] <sproingie> is "nautilus ." the accepted way to pop open a file browser in the current dir?
[23:20] <nimbus> wait - it is not flickering now
[23:20] <dsnaike> uninstall current thunderbird restart xserver reinstall thunderbird with sudo aptitude install thunderbird
[23:20] <dr_willis> sproingie,  thats one way.
[23:20] <tiyowan> nimbus: I'm running an ATI X1400, and it's working fine.
[23:20] <yagga> chairman: have utilized filters
[23:20] <hummesse> hi guys. I have a problem. I need to get some files from my labtop which is behind a firewall where i work. I can make an ssh connection to the server at work and from there another to my labtop, but i can't figure out how to copy files all the way through both connections. Does anyone know how?
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> hummesse: use scp
[23:20] <dr_willis> hummesse,  scp is our friend :)
[23:21] <hummesse> would that not copy the files to the server at work?
[23:21] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[23:21] <zsquareplusc> hummesse: or sftp:// in nautilus
[23:21] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: How do I fix...
[23:21] <NemesisD> can anyone recommend a highly compatible VNC server if I absolutely must use VNC? I'm trying to VNC onto a linux machine from an iPhone using some crappy client
[23:21] <yagga> chairman: have you tried utilizing filters to place emails in folders
[23:21] <hummesse> I dont think it is that simple zsquareplusc. Please read the question again
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: fix the pam config. compare the files with a working machine or backups. alternatively reinstall the package that provides the files
[23:22] <chairman> ok how u do tht. i see them but i ignore them
[23:22] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: I didn't modify any files, I guess apt did...
[23:22] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  i tend to use vnc4server for linux, and ultravnc for windows
[23:22] <dsnaike> aptitude handles dependacies much better than apt-get
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> hummesse: sftp uses ssh connection, you just need to enable the sftp module in your ssh server. it is by default
[23:23] <NemesisD> dr_willis, thanks, I'll see if I can get that to work
[23:23] <yagga> chairman: saw your issue late but you want mail to email accounts separted right?
[23:23] <sproingie> aptitide however does not have super-cow powers
[23:23] <sproingie> aptitude even
[23:23] <dr_willis> NemesisD,  vnc4server however defaults to usint twm. You have to correct the .vnc/xstartup to make it run somting useable
[23:23] <loquitus_of_borg> dsnaike: ah ok
[23:23] <andriy21> ciao
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> NemesisD: there are vncserver vnc4server tightvncserver x11vnc vino  .. one of them should work
[23:24] <chairman> right
[23:24] <hummesse> but the problem is that it is really two connections. One from home to the server and one from the server to the labtop. so if i sftp://server i dont get the labtop. If i sftp://local_labtop_ip i also dont get the labtop
[23:24] <NemesisD> vino sure as hell doesn't :/
[23:24] <GodfatherofEire> How would I go about exiting a VBoxGTK crash without having to do a hard reboot?
[23:24] <dr_willis> I use the default 'share desktop' feature under gnome. and it works rather well for me
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> sproingie: nope no moo but it has other animals (hint: moo -v, -vv, ..)
[23:25] <yagga> chairman: create folders you already have inbox create folders with names you want
[23:26] <cvd-pr> Why ubuntu update-manager show me an older image and header if i have the newest one?
[23:27] <yagga> chairman: right click on "on this computer" name folder
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> Hey I just burned the 8.10 64 bit version to a CD and than put it in to see if it worked.
[23:28] <cvd-pr> ?
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> There is an option named
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> Install within windows
[23:28] <MonthOLDpickle> so its possible to install linux when I am in windows?
[23:28] <bdelin88> what's the best way to go about removing ubuntu and reinstalling it, just save my home directory and delete anything i don't want restored?
[23:28] <zsquareplusc> MonthOLDpickle: it will install linux in a file on your windows partition$
[23:28] <n8tuser> !clone | bdelin88
[23:29] <kiba_urufu> what does the /usr folder need for permissions. I accidentally changed its perms. to 777 and im going to restart as root but i wanted to know what it needs to be chmodded to first.
[23:29] <dr_willis> MonthOLDpickle,  the  Wubi tool lets you install linux to a 'file' on the windows drive.. but i dont reccomend it.
[23:29] <cvd-pr> bdelin88,  reformat the /
[23:29] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any list of scanners that are fully compatible
[23:29] <MonthOLDpickle> okay just making sure
[23:29] <GodfatherofEire> *with ubuntu
[23:29] <dr_willis> !sane | GodfatherofEire
[23:29] <MonthOLDpickle> I was amazed..not anymore
[23:29] <MonthOLDpickle> lol
[23:29] <fluxy> bdelin88: you might consider backing up your .debs packages using aptoncd
[23:29] <bdelin88> i have no idea wat ubottu just told me to do
[23:29] <n8tuser> kiba_urufu, drwxr-xr-x  11 root root  4096 2007-10-15 16:19 usr
[23:29] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks dr_willis
[23:30] <hatter243> bdelin88, ubottu just told you how to replicate your currently installed packages onto another machine
[23:30] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis Does it include backported drivers, etc though?
[23:30] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:30] <hatter243> bdelin88, but I think what you were asking about can be simply done by plugging in a thumb drive and copying your home dir onto it
[23:30] <kiba_urufu> thanks n8tuser
[23:30] <bdelin88> hatter243: lol yea... i am sure he did but... yea
[23:30] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:30] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  cant say that ive ever noticed many 'drivers' for scanners under linux. :)  all the scanners ive tried have worked from the start - worked better then they do in windows
[23:30] <bdelin88> hatter243: yea i think i just want to save a few things like themes and awn settings, icons, etc
[23:31] <cvd-pr> Please someone say YES is you can read this
[23:31] <bdelin88> for example if i copy the .avant folder it should save my settings right?
[23:31] <bdelin88> YES
[23:31] <hatter243> bdelin88, unless you've done something nutty, those should all be in .files in your homedirectory
[23:31] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis thanks for the that
[23:31] <GodfatherofEire> *the help
[23:31] <cvd-pr> bdelin88,  yes
[23:31] <Twile> Is there a UMPC image for Xubuntu like there is for Ubuntu (as of 8.10)?  It's like a live CD, except persistent and on a USB drive.  Not sure if you still have to change the BIOS settings or not though.
[23:31] <bdelin88> whoever suggested APTonCD, i love you in a non gay way
[23:32] <dr_willis> Twile,  You can make such a thing with the tools in 8.10, unetbootin can also make such an image.. but i dont think that tool makes it persistant (yet)
[23:32] <fluxy> bdelin88: lol. thx
[23:33] <Twile> dr_willis: thank you
[23:33] <bdelin88> fluxy: heh, btw, this apton thing it installs just packages and things like that, but not drivers, so i truly could install the same packages on multiple (different hardware based) systems right?
[23:33] <Twile> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/
[23:34] <fluxy> bdelin88: you can select which packages you want, it can even create a meta-package for you
[23:34] <bdelin88> fluxy: O-M-G
[23:34] <bdelin88> fluxy: my life is simple now
[23:35] <ubendu> !bitlbee
[23:35] <bdelin88> fluxy: although... i don't know what a "meta" package is
[23:35] <ubendu> Anyone here use Bitlbee?????/???????????
[23:35] <skylarS> what is a good light html viewer for use from the command line?
[23:35] <NotADJ> zsquareplusc: I didn't modify any files, I guess apt did... Any idea?
[23:35] <ksakjas> im trying to setup motion, but i have two cameras so i have motion.conf thread0.conf and thread1.conf, but im unsure how thread0.conf is suppose to look to make it point to /dev/video0 same with thread1 to make it point to /dev/video1. how how to configure motion to run both at the same time?
[23:35] <zsquareplusc> NotADJ: nope
[23:35] <dr_willis> skylarS,  w3m, lynx, may be others.
[23:36] <fluxy> bdelin88: sometimes copying the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives from the old system to the new one may work, aptoncd is a safer method
[23:36] <Twile> !ubottu
[23:36] <bdelin88> fluxy: i agree
[23:36] <JFC1993> Are there any math geniuses here?
[23:37] <fluxy> bdelin88: a metapackage is a package which does not have any software in itself. it makes the installation of a set of other packages easy by having them as dependencies.
[23:37] <skylarS> dr_willis, nice, thanks w3m is pretty neat
[23:37] <bdelin88> fluxy: i see, i think...
[23:38] <fluxy> bdelin88: suppose you want to install packages x,y,z,a,b,c,d,g...etc instead of each time selecting all that, you create a metapackage called alphabet. alphabet does not contain any software, but when u install it, it lists x,y,z,a,b,c...etc as dependency hence all that get installed
[23:38] <dmsuperman> I have network-manager-pptp installed, using Hardy, and nm-applet doesn't give me an option to modify VPN connections. I've restarted DBus and the applet and even X
[23:38] <bdelin88> fluxy: sounds convenient
[23:38] <dmsuperman> What can I do to get it to list it?
[23:38] <NET||abuse> anyone know is there a prebuild radius server distribution at all?
[23:39] <MonthOLDpickle> also I am going to be pre-formatting the HD
[23:39] <MonthOLDpickle> should it be in fat32 or what?
[23:39] <dr_willis> skylarS,  some of those have graphical features if you are using a framebuffer console
[23:40] <tarvid> root partition boots to kernel panic after upgrade. Any way to rebuild the boot image on a partition?
[23:40] <skylarS> dr_willis, will I am using the gnome terminal default and I do have some mouse capabilities at least :)  I don't know what you can tell from that.
[23:41] <genii> NET||abuse: freeradius is an ubuntu package which comes with safe defaults. You also might want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:41] <dr_willis> skylarS,  you are not using the framebuffer then.
[23:41] <cvd-pr> Opera Acid Test3 100% :-)
[23:42] <fluxy> !clone
[23:43] <bdelin88> i guess i can also backup my windows xp VM as well
[23:43] <porter1> Anyone know why Blender doesn't open in non-fullscreen even when I select the windowed option in the menu?
[23:44] <|Zippo|> hi, where can I find a tutorial to install XEN virtualization on intrepid????
[23:44] <bdelin88> porter1: it does the same for me as well
[23:44] <dr_willis> !xen
[23:44] <fluxy> bdelin88: generally, the best thing to do, is to have atleast 3 partitions, one for swap, one for  / and one for data
[23:45] <fluxy> bdelin88: the one for data needs not be formatted in case of new install or upgrade, and can be mounted at /home
[23:45] <bdelin88> fluxy: already done, i think i have swap, ext3, "Media", "Software" and a windows partition, lol
[23:45] <fluxy> bdelin88: makes life easier
[23:45] <bdelin88> fluxy: but i don't feel like setting up a dedicated home
[23:45] <cliff_> ution what is a free email service i can use with it?
[23:45] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:45] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:46] <cliff_> * i am setting up evolution what is a free email service i can use with it?
[23:46] <cvd-pr> If i have the image and headers of 2.6.27.9 why i have to install the 2.6.27.7 ones ?
[23:46] <bdelin88> fluxy: btw, is there anything you could think of that would convert my windows playlist files (windows-based directory structure) into playlists that amarok could understand the directory for?
[23:46] <lester__> ктонибуть есть.
[23:46] <lester__> ?
[23:46] <fluxy> bdelin88: Neither do I. I mounted my data partition inside /home/<my username>. Incidentally I also use it as My Documents on Windows XP (I dual boot for games). This way no matter how many reformats, my data is always intact
[23:47] <lester__> Русские есть.
[23:47] <lester__> ????
[23:47] <cvd-pr> :-S
[23:47] <zsquareplusc> !ru
[23:47] <mano_> who has dial up conexion on Ibex ?  i,m having problems
[23:47] <LjL> !ru | lester__
[23:47] <MonthOLDpickle> Preformat  NTFS or FAT32
[23:47] <cliff_> ---- i am setting up evolution what is a free email service i can use with it?
[23:47] <bdelin88> fluxy: you mounted your data directory (NTFS i assume) to your home and store your stuff there you say?
[23:47] <bdelin88> fluxy: i will have to look into that after finals
[23:48] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: if you save the playlist with relative paths, many linux programs can read it too
[23:48] <fluxy> bdelin88: I meant /home/<username>/Dokz and Dokz is a fat32 partition, quite big, holds all my data
[23:48] <fluxy> bdelin88: zsquareplusc is right, else if you know python programming a little script might help...
[23:48]  * zsquareplusc lost confidence in fat. i want fsck.ext3 for my data
[23:48] <fluxy> MonthOLDpickle: preformat for what?
[23:49] <lester__> Кто русский знает напишите плиз =)
[23:49] <bdelin88> fluxy: i see, well i assume that even though people say NTFS is sketchy in linux, i could mount it to home right?
[23:49] <lester__> мне в приват
[23:49] <fluxy> cliff_: Gmail?
[23:49] <lester__> вопросик имеется
[23:49] <GodfatherofEire1> !ru | lester__
[23:49] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[23:49] <macjason0607> besides devde what app is good for converting a avi to a mpeg ?
[23:49] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: no i don't know python, but i was maybe considering getting into it, don't know if there's like a beginners IRC out there or some team eager to teach a little :)
[23:49] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: ffmpeg, mencoder
[23:49] <Buzzk> does warhammer online work on ubuntu
[23:49] <MonthOLDpickle> hard drive is formatted as NTFS with some old info thats not needed. Gonna format first to get rido fall data
[23:50] <phoenixz> Hi there, where does ubuntu keep its "secure" logs? cant seem to find them in /var/log where the other log files are
[23:50] <MonthOLDpickle> was wondering what to format it as before the installation
[23:50] <bdelin88> fluxy: eh, one more thing, i know i ask a lot, but i think the "primary" and "logical" feature has been taken out of ubuntu partition manager, what is the deal with that?
[23:50] <LjL> phoenixz: what are the secure logs?
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: while it wasnt be to suggest python, i can double that sugegstion. python.org has tutorials, there is a mailinglist and #python here
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> s/be/me/
[23:50] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: nice :) thanks
[23:51] <macjason0607> actually
[23:51] <Buzzk> anyoNe
[23:51] <phoenixz> LjL: The logs where user access is registered, access denied, etc..
[23:51] <macjason0607> zsquareplusc, i want to convert it to a iso then burn it to a dvd
[23:51] <five_> does imgburn work well on linux?
[23:51] <LjL> phoenixz: that would be /var/log/auth.log
[23:51] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: do you know if winamp has the capability to save relative paths to playlists or if there is an easy conversion?
[23:51] <phoenixz> LjL: ah, thanks!
[23:51] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: i used ffmpeg -f dvd and then devede (set it to use files as is)
[23:51] <cofeineSunshine> hello
[23:52] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: i think winamp had that
[23:52] <fluxy> bdelin88: last time i tried, gparted worked well for me...
[23:52] <Buzzk> does warhammer online work on linux
[23:52] <macjason0607> zsquareplusc, so you decode the movie first and then use devde to burn ?
[23:52] <bdelin88> fluxy: well i am not saying it worked well, but i do not see the options anymore for logical or extended partitions
[23:53] <cliff_> ty setting up gmail account
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: decode? you need to convert it to a mpeg devede failed with my files, so i used ffmpeg for that step
[23:53] <macjason0607> oh ok
[23:54] <cvd-pr> I have a cpu 1.8ghz then i change the bios and change the clock something from 200hz to 250hz and know my cpu is 2.95ghz , its smell like something is burning
[23:54] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[23:54] <macjason0607> ffmpeg -f dvd < -- zsquareplusc so this is the command
[23:54] <zloog> does gnome-terminal support logging? If not can somone recomend a term that does?
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> cvd-pr: your CPU is probably getting hot and the dust on it is smelling...
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: uhh..
[23:55] <bdelin88> ***now the question of all questions, since i am reinstalling, should i go with 64 BIT UBUNTU or 32 BIT?  I would say I am an advanced windows user and intermediate to beginner at ubuntu (no programming except CSS and HTML junk), and also is the firefox 64 with 32 bit flash wraparound stable enough... whew!!!!
[23:55] <Pici> zloog: run   script filename   before you start working and it will log all your commands to a file.
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> macjason0607: -target dvd
[23:55] <fluxy> bdelin88: I am not sure about gparted, i am not in a position to check that right now
[23:55] <cvd-pr> bdelin88,  if you have more than 4gb go with 64
[23:55] <Brack101> Hi there
[23:55] <dr_willis> bdelin88,  ive had no issues with 64bit Ubuntu  :)  been testing it with 8.10 -  worked very well
[23:56] <bdelin88> cvd-pr: wonderful, i have 4gb exactly :)
[23:56] <zloog> Pici: I'm trying to learn nntp and I want to log an interactive  telnet session
[23:56] <bdelin88> dr_willis: thanks :)
[23:56] <cvd-pr> but i think that now you can use more than 4gb in a 32bit distro
[23:56] <fluxy> bdelin88: Same here no problems, even flash works great, except that sun java plugin for mozilla isnt available for 64bit
[23:56] <cvd-pr> im i right?
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: there seems to be a 64 bit beta flash now. and for 4GB ram, 64 bits is better. but for proprietary software, 32 bit is easier. you can also do !chroot though
[23:56] <bdelin88> fluxy: is there a problem with java or does it still work?
[23:57] <oakmac> Adobe released a 64-bit native flash player for linux a while ago - does anyone know if this has hit the ubuntu repositories yet?
[23:57] <cvd-pr> with pae kernel you can use more than 4gb in a 32bit distro
[23:57] <bdelin88> oakmac: that's good news
[23:57] <fluxy> bdelin88: other implementations are available - icedtea - except that icedtea doesnt support advanced features, its only around 95% compatible
[23:57] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[23:58] <fluxy> bdelin88: if u want, for e.g., to run runescape, it wont work with icedtea
[23:58] <bdelin88> fluxy: ok so currently java would not work in the browser
[23:58] <bdelin88> fluxy: sun java that is
[23:58] <fluxy> bdelin88: it works, but not the official java runtime
[23:58] <fluxy> bdelin88: icedtea works
[23:58] <flakeparadigm> Hello
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: simply install a !chroot with firefox so you have access to the 32 bit stuff easily :-)
[23:58] <cvd-pr> ubuntu has the pae-kernel like openSuse?
[23:58] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: like sun java? :)
[23:58] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: Hi
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> !chroot | bdelin88
[23:59] <flakeparadigm> I need some virtual machine software that supports 3d graphics acceleration.
[23:59] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: for gaming?
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: it is like a 32 bit minimal install within your normal setup.
[23:59] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[23:59] <genii> cvd-pr: No pae kernel by defalt on 32 bit. The server kernel is pae enabled though.
[23:59] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[23:59] <MrCollins> Is there a simple video editor available for ubuntu besides kino?