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Riddellpoke rgreening, nixternal, seele, tonio kubuntu session00:01
NCommanderRiddell, do you mind if I upload a python-qt4 package?00:04
* NCommander notes that we have a bit of an issue with KDE libs and ARM and a possible transition ...00:05
RiddellNCommander: not if it fixes things00:05
jjesseRiddell:00:05
NCommanderRiddell, wait, what?00:06
RiddellNCommander: if you fix things uploading the fix is good :)00:08
NCommanderBut you just said if it fixes things, don't upload :-P00:08
NCommanderRiddell, anyway, I'm having ARM build issues ... again00:08
NCommanderRiddell, https://edge.launchpad.net/~sonicmctails/+archive00:11
NCommanderer00:11
NCommanderer00:11
RiddellNCommander: I said I don't mind uploads if it fixes things00:11
FireRabbitdirecthex: hey, you there?00:16
NCommanderRiddell, StevenK is doing a test build on real hardware for me00:16
Riddellhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySpecs00:19
nixternalpokey pokey00:19
* DaSkreech pokes nixternal With stick of Doooooooooom00:20
directhexFireRabbit, ?00:20
FireRabbithey there is a typo in qyoto.pc00:21
FireRabbitthe libs path is wrong00:21
ScottK-laptopdirecthex: If you agree, just push it in bzr and I'll merge it.00:22
directhexFireRabbit, i haven't touched it - i didn't think pusling took on my pc files000:22
FireRabbitdebian does not ship a pc file00:22
FireRabbitit needs to be added upstream.. but until then.. the package is broken for now00:23
directhexif the path is wrong in qyoto.pc, then it should be pretty trivial to fix00:24
FireRabbityes should take 10 seconds :)00:25
directhexi don't have any of my bzr nonsense here on this box - easiest for you to fix00:26
ScottK-laptopOK.  Somebodby pastebin me the diff and I'll get it in bzr00:27
FireRabbitScottK-laptop: http://gist.github.com/3370000:32
FireRabbithm you know that version needs to change too00:33
ScottK-laptopdirecthex: ^^ Do you agree with that change?00:34
FireRabbit(reload it)00:34
ScottK-laptopWhy is the version 4.3/4.4?  I'd have expected 4.1 or 4.2?00:34
FireRabbitits qt 4.400:35
FireRabbiti dont know why the install dir is kdebindings-4.400:35
ScottK-laptopAh.  OK.  That almost makes sense.00:35
* ScottK-laptop waits for confirmation from directhex.00:35
directhexFireRabbit, because the assembly version is 4.4.0.0 presumably00:35
FireRabbityes the assembly version is 4.4.0.000:35
* ScottK-laptop still waits for confirmation.00:36
directhexi'm checking00:37
ScottK-laptopThanks00:37
directhexcp obj-*-linux-gnu*/lib/qt-dotnet.dll debian/libqyoto4.4-cil/usr/lib/cli/kdebindings-4.4/00:38
directhexokay, yes, that adds up then00:39
ScottK-laptopSo I need to change rules too?00:39
ScottK-laptopdirecthex: ^^?00:42
directhexScottK-laptop, no, that's from the build log00:43
ScottK-laptopAh.  OK.00:43
directhexScottK-laptop, i.e. FireRabbit's change is needed to match that build log00:44
ScottK-laptopdirecthex: OK.  I'll make the change.00:44
ScottK-laptopFireRabbit: What's your actual name so I can credit you in debian/chanagelog00:47
FireRabbitEric Butler00:48
ScottK-laptopThanks00:48
FireRabbitthanks for fixing it00:48
ScottK-laptopFireRabbit: I'm not going to upload it right now (it's a big package to build).  I'm putting the change in bzr so it'll be in the next upload when we get to it.00:51
FireRabbitsounds good00:51
JontheEchidnargreening: txwikinger apparently has info on how to make python apps into kcm modules00:52
JontheEchidnaor at least was pointed in that direction by sime :P00:52
vorianhai00:53
JontheEchidnavorian: y hello thar00:53
vorianhow goes it JontheEchidna!00:54
JontheEchidnawishing I was at UDS00:54
JontheEchidnalol00:54
vorianyeah, me too!00:54
vorianstupid boss00:54
DaSkreechvorian: Ask your boss to come to Camp KDE :000:55
vorianwhen is that?00:56
DaSkreechJan00:56
DaSkreechhttp:// camp.kde.org00:56
vorianoh!00:58
vorianmaybe00:58
JontheEchidnatwo people talking at once... confusing00:58
rgreeningJontheEchidna: cool. That's awesome. I'll ping him on it00:59
JontheEchidnargreening: /me waves to everyone00:59
jjesseJontheEchidna: you listening?01:00
JontheEchidnaya01:00
rgreeningo/ waves back01:00
ScottK-laptopdirecthex and FireRabbit: Pushed up to revision 8.01:01
ScottK-laptophttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebindings/ubuntu/annotate/8?file_id=qyoto.pc-20081202130636-qf2gdt7wssmot037-5201:01
DaSkreechvorian: :-D01:08
directhexScottK, good good01:19
seelergreening: you should use a checkbox for the incoming traffic option01:30
rgreeningseele: you mean for the default policy?01:32
seelefor ufw-kde01:34
rgreeningseele: possibly. That would clean up the UI a bit... only thing is it's not really an on/off conceptually.. so it may be confusing to the user...01:34
seeleit's either or01:34
seeleyou allow incoming traffic or you dont01:34
seeleon/off, yes/no, enabled/disabled01:34
seelecheckboxes mean all that01:34
seeleand they are opposite options01:34
rgreeningseele: yeah... ok, let me have a look at that. I may need to do some re-wording to ensure the context and implications are clear. thanks01:36
seelesure, it's just a suggestion01:36
rgreening:)01:36
stdinanyone feel like fixing the KDE 4.1.80 -dev packages? :)01:36
JontheEchidnathey're broken?01:37
JontheEchidnaoh, file conflicts with pkg-kde-tools?01:38
ScottK-laptopIt's fixed in Jaunty.  I think it's just the PPA needs fixing.01:38
stdinI think they are, or it's my PPA that's broken01:38
stdinyeah, using the experimental PPA packages01:38
stdinproblems with kdebase-workspace-dev01:39
Riddellanyone care about 4.1.3 in intrepid?01:39
ScottKRiddell: Yes.01:40
stdinI'm still running 4.1.3, just building something in .8001:40
ScottKRiddell: I have to leave now to go recover $ELDEST_CHILD from work, but would be glad to discuss later.01:40
DaSkreechwhen isKDE 4.1.4 due ?01:42
vorianDaSkreech: tagging is wednesday01:43
vorianda10th :P01:43
seeleDaSkreech: december 17th01:43
DaSkreechok01:43
DaSkreechfells late01:43
DaSkreechfeels01:43
seeleno kidding.. feels like 9 *yawn*01:45
jjesse-dell9almost time for dinner some place01:49
RiddellScottK: it's still in -proposed, it needs someone to comment on the bugs in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+bugs?field.bug_reporter=jr that they're all good01:50
Riddellthen poke pitti to copy it over01:50
rgreeningseele: I updated and committed the UI change :) thanks. I think it will work better.01:53
seelergreening: sweet01:53
rgreeningseele: you know, I always ended up pronouncing pidgen "pigden" ... haha dont know why. Dyslexic01:55
jjesse-dell9its cause you are canadian eh01:56
rgreeningI think I should write a clone called pigden. write it in perl so its completed unreadable01:56
seelergreening: hmm.. i wonder if i pronounce the d or if i say it like pigeon01:56
jjesse-dell9i always ignore the d01:57
rgreeningI miss my MSN in Kopete01:58
jjesse-dell9isnt there a thread on that on kubuntu-devel01:58
rgreeningyep01:59
seelemsn is broken in kopete?01:59
rgreeningyep01:59
jjesse-dell9no plugin01:59
* rgreening cries01:59
jjesse-dell9or something like that01:59
seeleoh 4.201:59
seeledamn.. that sucks. i need msn for work01:59
rgreeningyep. libmsn missing from debian02:01
RiddellI can sync that from incoming I guess02:02
Riddellexcept, we're just leaving02:02
Riddellsomeone remind me to do that tonight02:02
Riddell** https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntyGapAnalysis02:03
Riddellplease review ^^02:04
DaSkreechAdept02:07
ScottKRiddell: libmsn is in Debian New currently.02:28
ScottKRiddell: When I did this for 3.5.10 in Hardy I did one bug for the whole thing ....02:35
ScottKRiddell: They all have at least one "works for me" comment now.02:44
JontheEchidnaHmm, looks like we have our work cut out for us for Jaunty02:53
JontheEchidnalots o' stuff to go after02:54
RiddellScottK: pitti said it needed one bug per package, which seems daft t ome03:27
RiddellScottK: excellent, I shall remind him over dinner to get it moved03:27
ScottK-laptopRiddell: Your mistake was asking in advance ...03:40
Riddellmmm03:49
Riddellwe forgot to include apturl in our session today, we should make sure to get that in03:50
ScottK-laptopRiddell: Would you please do the sync for mlt++ in Bug 306257?  I need it as a build-dep for getting kdenlive to the KDE4 version.03:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 306257 in mlt++ "Please sync mlt++ 0.3.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30625703:59
Riddellevening jpds06:08
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* a|wen finally got his MSN support back in kopete, yay!15:10
glade88JontheEchidna: I cannot reproduce it.. Shall I mark it as "fixed released" ?16:39
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apacheloggerRiddell: about soyuz and neon: I noticed that multiple PPA's per user/team would make sense, quite some people broke their installation because they were upgrading while I wasn't finished rolling the intrepid stack17:08
apacheloggermcas: pong17:10
mcasapachelogger: hi17:10
mcassorry to late apachelogger17:11
apacheloggermeh :P17:12
JontheEchidnaglade88: ya, you can mark it fixed17:16
glade88JontheEchidna: ok :)17:16
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cbrthe system settings module for nepomuk and strigi says that the "strigi service is not running"17:29
cbrhow should i enable it?17:29
smarterdon't17:29
smarterjust don't :P17:29
cbrwhy17:29
smarterbecause I've never seen strigi running without using all your CPU and creating really big cache17:30
smarterand that currently there is almost no way to use it17:30
JontheEchidnatruths^17:30
JontheEchidnaI have had a multiple GiB cache come from enabling strigi17:30
smarterI think krunner might let you search for files if strigi is enabled, but that's it, and it probably does not work great too17:31
smarter(krunner=ALT+F2)17:31
cbrWTF17:37
cbri didnt change anything @ krunner options17:37
cbrjust viewed them17:37
cbrbut it broke something17:37
cbrit displays some excessive popup on the side17:37
cbrthat's really annoying17:37
cbrWTF17:39
cbrhow did that just happen17:39
cbrit looks like a feature or smth, cuz it looks designed17:39
cbrbut no way did i enable something17:40
smarterit's quicksand17:40
smarter(I guess)17:40
smarterconfigure --> user interface --> command oriented17:40
cbrno, i tried it, but then turned back to the "command oriented" stuff17:41
smarterto get back to the normal stuff17:41
cbrbut those popups now appear beside the normal stuff17:41
cbrgo try it17:41
cbroh god :/17:42
Nightrosesomeone please ping me when rgreeneg shows up18:26
NCommanderNightrose, he's here in the room somewhere18:27
NightroseNCommander: ah tell him i talked to someone yesterday also interested in a good twitter client - probably a good idea to work together18:28
apacheloggercollaboration--18:30
apacheloggercauses less clearity in copyright :P18:30
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ScottK-laptopNightrose: Amarok is not listed as a supported player on icecast.com.  It's working great for me to listen to UDS stuff.  Someone from Amarok might want to disucss that with them.19:27
NightroseScottK-laptop: amarok 1 or 2?19:27
ScottK-laptopAmarok 1.19:28
Nightroseok thx19:28
ScottK-laptopI'm using the released Intrepid package.19:28
Nightroseok19:28
DaSkreechWhy wouldn't it work?19:28
ScottK-laptopIt would and does, but it's not listed as a supported player.19:29
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: UDS stuff?19:29
ScottK-laptopYeah.19:29
ScottK-laptophttp://icecast.ubuntu.com/19:29
apacheloggernice19:30
apacheloggernowadays, everyone got icecast because that fluendo stuff is not working :P19:30
DaSkreechDirac!!19:31
apacheloggerDaSkreech: looks more like a video codec?19:32
DaSkreechAh right :) I just remember it being Open source DRM19:33
jjesse-dell9lot of discussion on installer on identi.ca follow udsdesktop right now19:34
jjesse-dell9also gobby page, connect to gobby.ubuntu.com19:34
DaSkreechWhat should I subscribe to?19:37
DaSkreechAnyone on enabling trusted third party repositories?19:38
jjesse-dell9kubuntu jaunty installer or something like that19:38
DaSkreechWhich brings me to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96369519:38
DaSkreechIs that official? ^^^19:38
apacheloggerDaSkreech: more offical then before19:39
apachelogger*than19:39
DaSkreechYeah I'm on all the kubuntu stuff :-) I meant anything else interesting19:39
* apachelogger needs to review the source again19:39
DaSkreechSo should I be on the third party repository gobby discussion so that we can look at supporting community KDE3 ?19:40
apacheloggerif someone can monitor the ppa, that is not much of a problem19:40
apacheloggerbut apparently no one has time for that19:40
DaSkreechWell that would be the >trusted< part of the repository19:41
DaSkreechAt what point do we trust them?19:41
apacheloggerwell, this should have planed better... IMHO they are trusted when >=MOTU monitors the changes and is able to kick stuff out (i.e. has upload rights)19:44
DaSkreechapachelogger: does that come with setting up a PPA ?19:44
apacheloggerif you set it up for a team, yes, but that ppa is setup for a user19:45
apacheloggerso the upload part doesn't apply19:45
DaSkreechhmm ok19:46
DaSkreechMaybe we can ask if they would like to be a team effort?19:47
apacheloggerDaSkreech: we already contacted once, but I had to leave so I couldn't participate in the discussion19:48
DaSkreechCan someone change the session to kubuntu-jaunty-installer :)19:49
DaSkreechinstead of kunbuntu ?19:49
apacheloggerevil typo19:49
DaSkreechRiddell: Is there still plans for edubuntu-desktop-kde ?19:53
apacheloggerrgreening: KDE 4 got it's own space indicater, which is by design superior to the cairo one, you'd just need to add multi-color support to the widget19:53
DaSkreechIt's still in Ibex but is it still just you maintaining it?19:54
RiddellDaSkreech: not really19:59
DaSkreechHmm ok19:59
DaSkreechNo plans for marble in kunbuntu installer?19:59
Riddellmarble in installer would be cool but not actually at all useful to anyone and takes up space on the CD20:00
seelewould be a bit overkill20:00
DaSkreechok :)20:00
nixternalsorry I missed the Kubuntu packaging one, I was following the archive reorg which != fun20:00
DaSkreechWell all I want is that when you click it zooms in20:00
DaSkreechthat's neat in Gnome but never happened in KDE20:00
apacheloggerit's not neat in gnome20:01
apacheloggerit is the worst possible implementation of zoom IMHO20:01
rgreeningapachelogger: cool. I'll ad it.20:05
Riddellyeah their zoom in is horrible20:06
Riddellit should work far more sanely20:06
rgreeningNightrose: ping20:07
Riddellit's only people who live in the caribbean who need zoom in really20:07
Nightrosergreening: pong20:07
rgreeninghey Nightrose20:07
Nightrosehaha Riddell20:07
Nightrosehaving fun at uds?20:08
rgreeningNightrose: yes20:08
rgreening:)20:08
Nightrosemeanies!20:08
Nightrosewanna be there as well20:08
rgreeningto bad you weren't here to bug :P20:08
Nightrose:(20:08
Nightrosebut well i got to spend a weekend in the kde office instead :P20:08
apacheloggerRiddell: I think the primary usecase is for people with visual impairment20:08
Nightrosethat was much more fun i am sure20:08
rgreeninghehe20:09
apacheloggerNightrose: more geeks = more fun20:09
Nightrosergreening: anyway... - the kde office manager's bf is a mac guy - and we managed to make him want to contribute to kde20:09
ScottK-laptopMight ask TheMuso for a usability review then.20:09
Nightrosergreening: and the thing he wants to do is a twitter client using the ruby bindings20:09
Nightrosehe is a real twitter addict so i think that will work out fine20:09
Nightrosewanna join him?20:10
Nightroseoh and he installed kubuntu yesterday20:11
Nightrose\o/20:11
rgreeningNightrose: cool.20:11
rgreeningNightrose: there exists one in python gtk, so I was going to look at using that...20:12
Riddelldoen't plasma already have a twitter client?20:12
NightroseRiddell: it is horrible20:12
rgreeningRiddell: it's bad20:12
rgreening:)20:12
jjesse-dell9gwibber is a much better client for twitter/identi.ca20:12
Nightrosergreening: let me get you his twitter nick then you can msg him - sec20:12
rgreeningRiddell: although, someone with commit to kde could update with patches I suppose... if I fixed it20:12
jjesse-dell9but gwibber is gtk only20:13
rgreeningjjesse-dell9: yes, it would need porting to qt/kde20:13
Nightrosejjesse-dell9: segfault is looking for someone to do a Qt frontend20:13
rgreeningjjesse-dell9: which is what I was thinkin20:13
Nightrosergreening: http://twitter.com/purzelrakete <- that is the guy20:14
rgreeningcool20:14
Nightrosergreening: tell him i send you then he'll know :)20:14
rgreeningok20:14
ScottKNCommander: How goes python-qt4 porting?20:17
mcasadevallScottK-laptop: I've done some work, I'm waiting on StevenK to finish a build for me.20:19
ScottKOK.20:19
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mcasadevallmcasadevall: for the time being, I"m on this nick, my NCommande r session is currently on the projector20:21
nixternalNCommander: why are you using xfce?20:23
nixternaloops, just made the projector blink :p20:23
nixternalthank goodness there wasn't a libnotify popup on that one :)20:24
mcasadevallnixternal: I've always used Xfce ...20:24
apachelogger...20:25
apacheloggerI am cold20:25
nixternalapachelogger: I will keep you warm!20:25
mcasadevallI switch to GNOME and KDE20:25
apacheloggeruhhhh20:25
mcasadevallBut Xfce been my main desktop for a very long time.20:25
RiddellDaSkreech: you are now my usecase for the installer spec :)20:28
DaSkreechheehee :)20:28
DaSkreechI live in the Caribbean :)20:29
DaSkreechTm_T: Hey :020:29
Riddellexactly20:29
DaSkreechIsn't there a libgwibber?20:29
* apachelogger saddles his pony to get some tea20:30
Riddellapachelogger: did you see my question from cprov?20:31
apacheloggerRiddell: did you see my answer :P20:35
apacheloggerRiddell: about soyuz and neon: I noticed that multiple PPA's per user/team would make sense, quite some people broke their installation because they were upgrading while I wasn't finished rolling the intrepid stack20:36
Riddellyes that would seem nice20:37
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mcasadevallapachelogger: you could stage in your personal PPA then copy20:38
* mcasadevall does that with Xfce updates20:38
apacheloggermcasadevall: people also use my personal PPA20:38
mcasadevallapachelogger: so make another group :-)20:38
* mcasadevall runs20:38
* DaSkreech talks here since the gobby server is dead :(20:38
apachelogger:P20:39
DaSkreechIs wifi part of the catch up?20:39
apacheloggerwifi?20:39
DaSkreechYeah20:39
apacheloggercatch up?20:39
apachelogger/usr/bin/batl10n:58:in `initialize': No such file or directory - ./debian/control (Errno::ENOENT)20:39
DaSkreechwasn't there a problem with static IPs in Ibex?20:39
Riddellthat's covered by having new networkmanager plasmoid20:39
DaSkreechapachelogger: the Gobby server writeups20:39
apacheloggerbatl10n is clearly using too many vars20:39
apacheloggerRiddell: did you take a look at it recently? it seems to be coming along quite nicely20:40
Riddellapachelogger: I havn't no20:40
apacheloggervery recommendable :)20:40
apacheloggermaybe we should snapshot a package20:41
ScottK-laptopRiddell: I added a mention of apturl to the spec wiki20:48
apacheloggerso, which icecast stream would I want to listen to?20:49
RiddellScottK-laptop: which page?20:50
Riddellapachelogger: I'm in xorg config, other people are in ubiquity20:50
* apachelogger needs to turn up the volume20:52
ScottK-laptophttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuJauntySpecs20:52
Riddellproofing needed https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntyInstaller20:57
apacheloggerRiddell: "he uses he new map to select it."20:58
jjesse-dell9seele: you hanging out in the plenary?22:13
Riddellwhat's US English for cobbler?22:14
jjesse-dell9shoe maker?22:14
Riddellactually cobbler seems to work22:15
NCommanderhey Riddell22:16
Riddellhi NCommander22:16
NCommanderRiddell, I finally have an armel emulator going (ogra gave me the necessary tip to get things going)22:17
NCommanderI can now actually build things in less than a day!22:17
seelejjesse-dell9: yes, i think julian is doing the desktop experience talk thing22:17
jjesse-dell9seele: ah trying to stay awake through the rest of the stuff then22:17
RiddellNCommander: yay22:18
RiddellUDS dudes: going to the computer museum trip?22:18
NCommanderRiddell, I'm thinking about it22:18
jjesse-dell9yes i am22:19
jjesse-dell9excited for it22:20
NCommanderRiddell, anyway, I have some things I need sponsored soonish22:21
NCommanderHow long until the next KDE 4.1 alpha?22:21
NCommanderBecause now that I can *gasp* compile things at decent speeds ...22:21
Riddellyou mean 4.2?22:22
NCommanderer, 4.222:22
NCommanderyeah22:22
Riddellbeta 2 tagged today alledgedly22:22
seelejjesse-dell9: yeah.. i'm back to doing some work for a bit22:27
jjesse-dell9me too trying to stay awake22:28
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DaSkreechIsn't 4.2 already out of Alpha?22:29
Riddellyes22:29
devinheitmuellerRiddell: did you ever have any success getting Kaffeine 0.8.7 to build for jaunty?22:30
Riddelldevinheitmueller: I havn't looked at it I'm afraid22:34
Riddellwas on holiday and now at the ubuntu summit22:34
devinheitmuellerah.22:34
devinheitmuellerI'm just getting increasingly nervous since 0.8.7 missed the Intrepid window too.22:34
devinheitmuellerThere are lots of US users trying to do ATSC scanning, which wasn't available until 0.8.722:35
devinheitmuellerI'm a Kaffeine developer and not an Kubuntu, but is there anything I can do to help?22:36
Riddellkeep poking us :)22:36
devinheitmuellerDo you know when the merge window closes?22:36
Riddella while yet22:36
devinheitmuellerWe were planning a release that provide s2api support, but it won't work until kernel 2.6.28 is released.  Do you know what kernel Jaunty is planning on including?22:37
RiddellFeatureFreeze Feb 19th22:37
devinheitmuellerPlease forgive my general Ubuntu ignorance.22:37
devinheitmuellerYeah, but isn't there a debian import freeze that is earlier?22:38
Riddellthat's just the automatic importer22:38
Riddellkaffeine needs done by hand anyway since we have our own changed (codec installer)22:38
devinheitmuellerAh, ok.22:38
Riddelljaunty currently has linux 2.6.28-2.322:39
devinheitmuellerAh.22:40
devinheitmuellerHmmm....  It would be great if we could get the yet unreleased 0.8.8 in since that has the s2api and other fixes, but I don't want you guys to have to do the work twice.22:40
Riddelllet me see if I can get kaffeine merged before the next session22:41
devinheitmuellerPardon, I am unfamiliar with the terminology.  What do you mean by "session"?22:41
jjesse-dell9we are at a developer summit, Riddell is between sessions at the summit22:42
devinheitmuellerOh, duh.  Sorry.22:42
jjesse-dell9no worries22:42
devinheitmuellerI was thinking perhaps "session" was Ubuntu code for "release merge window".  :-)22:42
* NCommander waits on QEMU ...22:43
devinheitmuellerRiddell:  Ok.  Thanks!22:43
Riddelloh, I remember, I was doing the kaffeine merge but XInput.h had disappeared22:47
Riddellso it's all the fault of those X packagers22:47
seeleWHAT?22:47
seelei sat in here for nothing?22:47
seelegrr22:47
Hobbseewhy, what's happening there?22:48
seelesome talk on python22:48
seeleit looks like tomorrows scheduled talk22:48
devinheitmuellerRiddell: oh?  Well, that's good to know.22:48
Riddell"Need to get 327MB/327MB of archives."  hmm, might take some time22:49
Hobbseeah, darn22:49
NCommanderRiddell, that's been fixed for awhile22:50
jjesse-dell9seele: you and me both22:51
jjesse-dell9argh22:51
Riddellyeah, I expected so22:51
jjesse-dell9now i dont know what to go to next22:51
jjesse-dell9someplace with a power plug22:52
jjesse-dell9seele: have you picked up your staff shirt yet?  heading to community room to gather mine22:52
seelejjesse-dell9: where is the community room?22:52
jjesse-dell9ummm in the other builing22:53
jjesse-dell9dia room22:53
RiddellI'd make a joke about seele wearing blue but I'm afraid she might scowel at me22:53
seele:P22:53
seelejjesse-dell9: ok.. i'm going to walk over and get it too22:53
jjesse-dell9ok see you there22:54
* DaSkreech whispers to seele at least make sure your toothbrush is a different colour22:57
seelenixternal: let me know how the upstream session goes.. this desktop session might not be interesting23:05
seeleor at least, relevant to anything we do23:05
DaSkreechis anyone going to Asus per chance?23:10
jjesse-dell9seele: how much of this desktop stuff is going to be gnome only?23:10
jjesse-dell9seems like most?23:10
DaSkreechjjesse-dell9: 99.361 percent?23:10
jjesse-dell9probablly23:11
DaSkreechThere is a Colloboration section as to how to unify the different Ubuntu flavours on Gobby23:11
DaSkreech Don't know if that's a talk or not23:11
nixternalseele: so far so good on the upstream project...it is more upstream bug contact related23:11
jjesse-dell9did someone just say "as long as we dont break it too bad?"23:13
DaSkreech>_<23:17
jjesse-dell9seele: those are all gnome apps23:23
DaSkreechGnome == Desktop23:23
jjesse-dell9http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/notifications23:24
jjesse-dell9and then in the main txt file they are all main23:24
jjesse-dell9meant they are all gnome23:25
jjesse-dell9kubuntu jaunty documentation is next session23:26
seelejjesse-dell9: yes.. but they are talking about other stuff too23:29
seeleand it is good to know what they are doing about notifications23:30
jjesse-dell9is there a kde4 port of konverstation yet?23:31
jjesse-dell9kde apps to use knotify if it supports it23:33

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