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ubuntu__Yeah, but all of those things run just fine on both kde and gnome.00:00
dr_willisSo they are portable then :)00:00
DaSkreechubuntu__: All KDE programs run in Gnome00:00
moonsabermmm00:00
dr_willisportable normally applys to 'other os' not desktops.00:00
ubuntu__Well I was talking about desktops.00:00
ubuntu__OPs are a diffrent story.00:00
ubuntu__*OS00:00
kereswhat is the syntax to delete a file?00:01
keresn00b question i know00:01
ubuntu__I can put up witn WINE's crap myself, I don't need no stinking wondows.00:01
dr_willisportable as a term  for 'desktops' normally dosetn get used..  of coruse the freedesktop.org stuff is working on standardizing  a lot of things.. so its geting to be a non issue00:01
DaSkreechkeres: rm file00:01
AshlyIs there a apt-get package for pkg_config?00:01
ubuntu__I can run all of... 1 programs with it.  Its a really nice one though.00:01
dr_willisits been ages since ive seen a kde app in gnome, or gnome app in kde issue.00:01
ubuntu__So why do we even bother putting a k in every possible place?00:02
dr_willisIf the app is using the qt/kde libs then its a KDE app. YOu can name them whatever you want.00:02
ubuntu__Have I become distracted from the issue I came here with?00:02
dr_williswhy does the name matter.00:02
* dr_willis has totally frogotten the original issue00:02
LjL!info pkg-config | Ashly00:02
ubottupkg-config (source: pkg-config): manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.22-1 (intrepid), package size 51 kB, installed size 152 kB00:02
ubuntu__Crap, I have.  All fine for me, but the end users won't be happy with a machine that won't boot.00:02
keresit seems i need libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0 for something00:03
* dr_willis would like to see more standarized names for similer kde/gnome apps.. ie : kedit gedit, ksudo gsudo, ect...00:03
keresDaSkreech: which package should i install to get that?00:03
ubuntu__Is there a way for me to download an executable to install kubuntu from inside the live thing?00:03
* genii gkdesudos dr_willis00:03
* dr_willis kdesu's genii 00:03
ubuntu__I have one, but I don't really trust it's integrity.00:03
DaSkreechdr_willis: Can't you do that?00:04
geniidr_willis:  :)00:04
AshlyThanks LjL00:04
* dr_willis uses sux00:05
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DaSkreechkeres: What do you need it for?00:05
oscarinaboxSCREECHS00:05
oscarinaboxWERES MAH ISNTRUCTIONS00:05
DaSkreech!grub00:06
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:06
* dr_willis puts oscarinabox on ignore00:06
oscarinabox:? haha00:06
keresDaSkreech: GTK Radiant00:06
DaSkreech!find libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.000:07
ubottuhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0&mode=&suite=intrepid&arch=any00:07
geniiInteresting. The bot just used to say how many it found00:07
DaSkreechThe bot sucks00:07
ubuntu__Okay.  So, nobody knows what I should do about the installer/partitioner freezeing00:07
ubuntu__?00:08
dr_willistry a new hd?  try formating it totally/badblock/checking, try alternative cd...00:08
DaSkreechubuntu__: Did it have any errors from the command line?00:08
dr_willisunplug ide hd, and try just sata drive installed also..00:08
DaSkreech!info libgtkglext100:09
ubottulibgtkglext1 (source: gtkglext): OpenGL Extension to GTK+ (shared libraries). In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 105 kB, installed size 388 kB00:09
DaSkreechkeres: ^^^^00:09
keresyes?00:09
kereshow do i install this package?00:09
ubuntu__So I should go get the IDE drive, hook that up, and it'll prolly work?00:09
dr_willisubuntu__,  its worth trying.00:10
DaSkreechkeres: Want the painful GUI way or the painful CLI way ?00:10
kereswhich is easiest?00:10
DaSkreechFor me? The CLI way :)00:10
ubuntu__I might be tempted to just boot it as faildows...00:10
DaSkreechkeres:00:11
kereswould sudo apt-get libgtkglext1 work?00:11
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install libgtkglext100:11
ubuntu__Thanks.  :)  If I knew you'd all be this helpful, I woulda come and whined about all of the other small problems in the distro.00:11
stefanociao a tutti00:12
bob_DaSkreech: worked =)00:13
DaSkreechbob_: of course00:13
bob_DaSkreech: ready for another one ?00:13
bob_DaSkreech: and thanks for the help btw00:14
keresDaSkreech: can you change the theme of a gtk application to KDE themed?00:14
DaSkreechubuntu__: If you were evil you could use parted00:14
DaSkreechkeres: If you like blood and sweat00:14
DaSkreechbob_: Go00:14
ubuntu__I did not know that this failed to close when I 'x'ed it out.00:14
bob_DaSkreech: Trying to use K3B - on startup it says it doesn't detect a burner - i have an external one hooked up via USB00:15
ubuntu__I'm gonna try one more time-this time I was more explicit in my partitioning instructions.00:15
DaSkreechubuntu__: ok :000:15
ubuntu__in all likleyhood I'm about time out due to the system freezing.  WIsh me luck.00:15
DaSkreechbob_: Yeah that's outta my knowldege base I know that I've seeen it solved in here before00:16
ubuntu__I hear a beep00:16
ubuntu__Okay, I'll report as much as I can as it attempts to install, up to the point where it freezes.00:17
bob_no biggie, thanks man00:17
ubuntu__it'll be like listening to a black box, except LIVE :)00:17
ganymedehi, i'd like to install cmake 2.6.2. i added this line to sources.list: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe" and updated and upgraded and now cmake --version returns "cmake version 2.6-patch 2" that isn't cmake 2.6.2, right?00:17
ubuntu__Starting up00:17
ubuntu__detecting file systems00:17
ubuntu__creating ext3 file system for foo at bar00:18
bob_probably wouldn't burn an .uif image anyways00:18
ubuntu__this is where it usually crashes & burns00:18
DaSkreechbob_: You need anextension for that00:18
kyle__omg........my wireless doesn't work at all00:18
DaSkreechbooom00:18
ubuntu__Wireless00:18
dr_willisif its crashing at formating the hard drive... then it REALLY sounds like a Hard drive failure issue00:18
ubuntu__that took me a while to figure out00:18
ubuntu__get the driver from the manufacturer00:18
bob_DaSkreech: booom is the extension?00:19
kyle__how?00:19
ubuntu__and find a wrapper00:19
ubuntu__then run the installer for the driver in WINE00:19
DaSkreechbob_: No that's ubuntu__ crashing and burning00:19
DaSkreechubuntu__: that depends on the wireless that kyle__00:19
DaSkreechhas00:19
dr_willisbest to research the wireless chipset you have on the forums...   and see how  to set ig up00:19
ubuntu__WHat kinda card is it?00:19
ubuntu__Netgear?00:19
kyle__um00:19
kyle__broadcom00:20
ubuntu__Broadcom?  Never herd of it.00:20
dr_willisbroadcom - narrows it down a little....00:20
ubuntu__Ohh, farther then usual, 27%.00:20
dr_willisbut not much. :)00:20
dr_willis!wireless00:20
kyle__airforce one00:20
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:20
ubuntu__Looks like my blind manual editing of peramiters paid off.00:20
BluesKaj!broadcom00:20
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx00:20
ubuntu__I got an errno 500:20
kyle__heres my driver00:21
kyle__ Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)00:21
ubuntu__claims that theres something wrong with some kinda drive.00:21
ubuntu__wireless G?00:21
kyle__yea00:21
ubuntu__(some kinda drive being the disc drive, it said, not the hard one.)00:21
ubuntu__With wifi cards, you are ether lucky or down 20 bucks.00:22
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kyle__meaning?00:22
ubuntu__Hope that the driver the manufacturer made works with the wrapper.00:22
ubuntu__If not, you can find one who sells one with a linux driver, and buy that.00:22
kyle__buying isnt an option00:22
ubuntu__Why?  You could certanly sell that one and buy an older but compatable one.00:23
ubuntu__You could barter it.00:23
kyle__so...if i could install a newer/older version of my driver and make kubuntu work with it................i would be all good?00:23
dr_williskyle__,  most likely you need to install the b43 tools/package and the fw-cutter tool00:24
kyle__ok00:24
sergioalguém fala portugues ?00:24
dr_willisthe bcm/b43 drivers have been updated in 8.10 - My b43XXX cards now work in 8.1000:24
dr_willisand alli did was let the rextricted-drivers tool install the proper packages00:24
ubuntu__I'm gonna go plug in the anchent IDE drive.  The trick with IDE is just lining the sides of the ribbon, right?00:24
ryan_help please. i was trying to install adobe flash using the one i downloaded from their website00:25
dr_willisubuntu__,  theres normally a little tab/missing pin also...00:25
sergioolá ?00:25
dr_willisryan_,  why are you installing it that way?00:25
ubuntu__Oh, right.  Bit it was inside a machine, so it's jumper should be alredy be set to what I want.00:25
kyle__i tryed to install "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" but it said the package couldnt be found00:25
ryan_then i issued sudo chmod +x  sudo chmod +x flashplayer-installer00:25
DaSkreechryan_: use the one from ubuntu00:25
DaSkreech!es00:25
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:25
ryan_yes i tried that too00:25
ryan_daskreech : are you referring to the flashlugin-nonfreee?00:26
ubuntu__I like how you issue commands, you don't type them.  I'm gonna phrase it like that from now on.00:26
dr_willis!b4300:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about b4300:26
dr_williskyle__,  run  'kdesudo jockey-kde' and use that tool to install the drivers00:27
dr_willisor launch it from the menus, wheever its at in the menus now00:27
ryan_the installer from the adobe website and the flashplugin-nonfree seemed to work fine00:28
ubuntu__Anyone know how I turn on compiz on the live thing?  I always wanted to see the cube thing go.00:28
ryan_but firefox couldnt still see the flashplugin00:28
dr_willisI just install kubuntu-restricted-extras and it grabs flash for me.. as for adobe.. I think i get that from the medibuntu repos00:28
dr_willisI dont want firefox showing pdf's :) so not tried that part.00:28
tarvidnew to kubuntu00:29
tarvidwant to back up some stuff with samba00:29
tarvidhow do I enable sharing00:30
tarviddolphin says I must be owner00:30
tarvidcan I run dolp[hin as root?00:30
dr_willisDONT run it as root.00:30
dr_williswhat are you trying to share?00:31
tarvidi mounted sda5 and would like to back up /boot and /var/www and a postgresql database00:31
dr_willisand what does this have to do with samba shares then?  YOu are backing up files to a local drive?00:32
ryan_yeah00:32
tarvidI am trying to back up to another Ubuntu box00:32
* dr_willis is missing somthing here then....00:32
tarvidthat has an appropriate dvd burner00:33
dr_willisYou have your data files on /dev/sda5  that you wish to archive?00:33
tarvidYes00:33
tarvidIt was the root partition until an upgrade resulted in a kernel panic00:33
dr_willisso you took the HD from onemachine and plugged it into another machine that has a DVD burner?00:34
tarvidNo the client installed Intrepid again on sda8 and sda900:34
tarvidthat install boots and runs fine00:34
tarvidthe old install on sda5 does not boot.00:35
dr_willisSO you have 2 machines.. networked... and you got files on machine 1,  that you want to access from machine 2, ?00:35
tarvidI am trying to obey the dictum to backup first00:35
tarvidthey have an application apache+postgresql+? that manages a clinic00:35
Nibbler`helo there, i've upgraded my kde to the 4.2beta, but many stuff are going wring, i would like to revert to the stable one, how can I do that ?00:36
* dr_willis thinks we need to get a Picture drawn Up of the setup... im confused as to too many things...00:36
* dr_willis thinks the issue is a 'user' trying to right click/share a system directory.. that would be a big security issue...00:37
tarvidsda1 windows nt00:38
tarvidsda2 extended00:38
tarvidsda5 old kubuntu Intrepid /00:38
tarvidsda6 swap00:38
tarvidsda7 home00:38
tarvidsda8 new kubuntu /00:38
tarvidsda9 swap00:38
tarvidthis user would very much like to share /00:39
tarvidit is a temporary measure to backup the files before I make things worse00:39
tarvidbooting sda5 fails but that is the partition which has the ap[plication and data00:40
tarvidguessing sda5 /boot is corrupt00:41
dr_willisif you want to share a system directory, instead of a users own directory in their home dir.. You will most likely need to edit the /etc/smb.conf and setup the share manually00:42
dr_willisand of course install the samba server00:42
cuzntmy linksys router did not work out of the box kde i could not bring up its page either00:43
tarvidmakes sense00:43
dr_willisa user is not going to be able to 'right click and share'   a system dir.  im not even sure running a file server as root would allow it either00:43
dr_willisIF this is a linux to linux setup. You may want to use NFS instead of  samba also..00:43
DaSkreechbob_: I'm off!00:43
dr_willisIn fact it maybe a MUCH better idea to use NFS00:44
DaSkreechkeres: Bye dude00:44
DaSkreech*koff* fish:// *koff00:44
bob_DaSkreech: later mna!00:44
bob_err man!00:44
bob_thanks again00:44
DaSkreech!info man00:44
ubottuPackage man does not exist in intrepid00:44
DaSkreechHa ha00:44
dr_willisor ssh/scp and get around shares..00:44
tarvidi may just depend on scp00:44
tarvidNFS has slipped from the horizon. Apple support CIFS on its time station and I have to live with XP boxes00:44
tarvidI like that better00:45
keresbye DaSkreech00:45
dr_willissamba will have issues with the system permissions on the stuff.00:45
tarvidIt will server well and is less invasive00:45
dr_willissshfs is handy also. :)00:45
DaSkreechkeres: you are alright?00:45
Nibbler`i was wondering KDE is bothering me about some "not find requested component" is there any debian packtage to install ?00:45
DaSkreechgenii, dr_willis: know anything about USB Cd burners?00:45
tarvidhavn't tried sshfs00:46
DaSkreechNibbler`: What are you doing when it tells you that?00:46
dr_willisDaSkreech,  ya plug them  and they work.. for the most part for me00:46
DaSkreechdr_willis: bob_ says k3b can't find it00:46
dr_willisdid you start k3b after you plugged it in?00:46
dr_williscan you see/access it normally?00:47
dr_willis'whats the airspeed of an unladen swallow?'00:47
geniiDaSkreech: I have a couple external ones, yeah00:47
ryan_is there a way i can cleanly uninstall firefox along with its installed plugins?00:47
DaSkreechbob_: THat's for you^^^00:47
DaSkreechryan_: extensions you mean ?00:47
ryan_all00:47
ryan_yes00:47
dr_willisryan_,  user isntalled stuff are in .mozilla00:47
dr_willisremoving firefox from the package manager - wll NOT clean out the users settings for firefox00:48
DaSkreechryan_: sudo apt-get remove firefox --purge && mv ~/.mozilla ~/.Trash00:48
Nibbler`DaSkreech like adding some widget00:48
keresDaSkreech: yes i am :)00:48
keldronadoes anyone know facebook?00:48
DaSkreechNibbler`: on the desktop or on the panel?00:48
Nibbler`there are in my list, but is tells me that it can't find out the coponents00:48
DaSkreechkeldrona: No00:48
Nibbler`desktop and pannel00:48
DaSkreechkeldrona: or mor appropriate Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo00:48
cuznt!linksys00:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about linksys00:49
* DaSkreech hides from Facebook. You shall not get me today!!!00:49
cuznt!routers00:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about routers00:49
ryan_thanks00:49
DaSkreechNibbler`: There is a package for plasmoids you may have to install00:49
dr_willisMost all routers ive seen. You just plug them in and go to http://192.168.1.1    or similer ip.. and get to their interface00:50
keldronaDaSkreech... yes, but I don't have a problem with fb at all... I've got a problem of session timing out... can you help me?00:50
DaSkreech!info kdeplasma-addons00:50
ubottukdeplasma-addons (source: kdeplasma-addons): plasmoids for KDE 4 Plasma - main package. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 390 kB, installed size 1320 kB00:50
DaSkreechNibbler`: ^^^00:50
Nibbler`rc  kdeplasma-addons                           4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1                            plasmoids for KDE 4 Plasma - main package00:50
Nibbler`seems i got those00:50
DaSkreechkeldrona: sounds like you have cookies disabled but I have to go :(00:51
Nibbler`huh it seems i don't indeed00:51
keresDaSkreech: does flash player work for Konqueror?00:52
DaSkreechYes00:52
DaSkreechkinda00:52
kereshow do i install it?00:52
keresDaSkreech?00:52
DaSkreechkeres: if it's installed for Firefox then just go to settings for konqueror -> plugins -> search for plugins and walla00:53
keresDaSkreech: where???00:53
keresfrom within konqueror or the systems menu?00:54
geniiFrom the package manager00:54
DaSkreechSettings -> Configure Konqueror -> PLugins -> plugins -> scan for plugins00:54
DaSkreechkeres: in Konqueror00:55
kerestnx00:55
Nibbler`also i was looking for the setting to chang the appararence of the task bar, but i can't fin out where it is :s00:57
DaSkreechNibbler`: Appearance settings -> theme I think00:58
geniiDaSkreech: I think00:58
geniiII need more coffee00:58
DaSkreechgenii: :-)00:59
Nibbler`weird, i can't find it01:01
Nibbler`i guess i'm missing some components again01:01
Nibbler`messing with some beta version is way tricky :D01:02
slacksomebody has KDE 4.2 beta 1?01:04
keresit only sometimes works now01:04
slackmmm you got it from the experimental-repository?01:05
slack(sorry for my bad english )01:05
roganwhats the best utility for riping dvds?01:07
keresDaSkreech: how do you install firefox?01:08
DaSkreechkeres: in 8.10 ?01:08
DaSkreechI have beta 101:09
keresyes01:09
slackkeres put "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0" in a terminal01:09
DaSkreechslack: Read the topic01:09
slacksorry01:09
DaSkreechslack: no problem the instructiosn for KDE 4.2 are there01:10
DaSkreechAnd it's a second party repo :)01:10
Nibbler`haaa thanks DaSkreech all works fine now :)01:10
DaSkreechNibbler`: There we go01:10
Nibbler`i was wondering about something, i setup my screen to turn off after 20min of inactivity, but only the screen saver turn in, the screens stays on all the time, anyone got the same problem ?01:11
keresDaSkreech: GTK Radiant is really dodgy. The window drags are delayed and doesn´t seem stable. What´s up?01:13
hellhound_I am having trouble installing the opensyncutils package using adept.  I get the error "Download Failed" and "APT Error. Context: Package download failed, unable to correct problems, you held broken packages./"01:13
DaSkreechNibbler`: yeah I don't know but I think that it's plasma that blocks it01:14
DaSkreech I know that if I kill plasma my screen turns off...01:14
DaSkreechkeres: Dunno01:14
keresI am not finding kde to be as stable as gnome.01:24
keresmaybe it is just me though01:24
keresis this true?01:24
geniikeres: KDE versions are currently in transition01:24
keresgenii: what does this mean?01:25
geniikeres: It means that the kde4 series (new) is still working out the bugs01:26
DaSkreechkeres: KDE is at version 1 Gnome is at version 2601:26
keresoh01:26
DaSkreechOne of them has had more time to get out bugs :)01:26
* DaSkreech throws a tikker parade if you guess which one01:27
keresdo you find kde better?01:27
dr_williskde 4.X is still very much an infant. :P01:27
DaSkreechWell yeah That's why I hang out in this room :)01:27
kereswhy do you like kde more?01:27
DaSkreechIn terms of stability I guess not but Gnome seems stable in terms of not crashing but also features01:28
DaSkreechThey do very little with each new release01:28
DaSkreechKDE just works much better together and the way they build stuff is great01:28
Nibbler`and KDE got amarok :p01:28
DaSkreechIf kate gets a new feature a half dozen other applications get it instantly as well01:28
DaSkreechYou can run amarok in Gnom01:29
DaSkreeche01:29
geniiKDE has Kaffeine too01:29
Nibbler`yeah but ...01:29
Nibbler`not the same :D01:29
DaSkreechKIO slaves are really good01:29
Nibbler`and KDE4 is pretty cute too01:29
DaSkreechWell yeah that's my point01:29
DaSkreechKDE stuff just works really well with each other01:29
DaSkreechand outside of having a fairly crappy Web browser pretty much everything you need ships with KDE01:30
Nibbler`and they are all based on Qt, which is quite good01:30
DaSkreechGnome needs a lot of outside apps to be comfy01:30
* genii waits for firefox-qt01:30
DaSkreechgenii: That's a mozilla effort?01:30
keresfirefox works on kde here01:30
geniiDaSkreech: Not sure, but there's been work on it01:30
keresjust installed it :S01:30
Nibbler`genii are they gonna come with a qt version ? O_o01:30
DaSkreechYeah it does but it doesn't work well with KDE :)01:30
Nibbler`keres > sure but that ugly, i mean mine looks crap01:30
DaSkreechdoesn't really work that well with Gnome either so meh01:31
geniiNibbler`: Hopefully01:31
DaSkreechFirefox is a Windows application01:31
Nibbler`u can get some theme and stuff, but i fond those buggy01:31
Nibbler`find*01:31
geniiAlso I miss gkrellm01:31
Nibbler`i wonder what's the best browser on KDE01:31
DaSkreechWhat now?01:31
Nibbler`i don't like konqueror so much01:31
DaSkreechauroa probably01:31
Nibbler`auroa enevr herd of it01:31
DaSkreechwebkit browser01:32
geniiI wonder if anyone's working on qtrellm01:32
DaSkreechwell shell01:32
DaSkreechnot really a "browser browser"01:32
DaSkreechgenii: What's that?01:32
genii!info gkrellm01:32
ubottugkrellm (source: gkrellm): The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-7ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 740 kB, installed size 2100 kB01:32
geniiDaSkreech: Some nice system monitors in gnome01:33
hellhound_I am having trouble installing the opensyncutils package using adept.  I get the error "Download Failed" and "APT Error. Context: Package download failed, unable to correct problems, you held broken packages./"01:33
geniiDaSkreech: ksensors and kima just don't cut it01:33
* mister-tea uses his nose as a system monitor...smoke=bad01:34
Nibbler`anyone know how to get rid of dolphin ? like really get rid of it ?01:44
Wicked!gnome01:44
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.01:44
Wicked!desktop01:44
ubottuA desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors01:44
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Nibbler`hum ^^01:45
DaSkreech!fluxbox01:45
ubottufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:45
DaSkreechGrr why doesn't it mention #fluxbuntu ?01:45
mister-teajust go to add/remove programs and remove it01:45
stdinbecause it's not an official derivative01:45
DaSkreechNibbler`: You want konqueror to be the default?01:48
DaSkreechstdin: So no one is allowed to mention it?01:48
stdinDaSkreech: sure, but we don't do advertisement for them01:49
kereswhat is ./configure used for?01:50
DaSkreechstdin: ok01:50
keresit returns uknown bash01:50
DaSkreechkeres: What are you trying to do?01:51
DaSkreechin short it runs a script01:51
keresconfigure source code to associate files01:51
* DaSkreech blinks01:51
kereshttp://jdolan.dyndns.org/quake2world/installation01:52
keres./configure --with-tools='q2wmap pak'01:52
* genii suspects "unknown bash" might be dash01:52
DaSkreechYeah But ...is there a quake2world deb somewhere/01:53
DaSkreech!default > xenoterracide01:53
DaSkreech!default > Nibbler`01:53
ubottuNibbler`, please see my private message01:53
wesley__Kmail works pretty well :)01:54
keresDaSkreech: no01:54
Nibbler`DaSkreech > i've done that already, as u say the plasma doen't follow the file association01:54
keresyou have to compile it itself01:54
Ahmuckis there a way to "reset" the maximize window function so that it actually fits the window?02:00
kereshow do you add user accounts?02:05
keresDaSkreech?02:06
DaSkreechYes?02:06
ubuntu_Okay, I'm back.02:06
kereshow do you add user accounts?02:06
ubuntu_(I used to have two underscores)02:06
DaSkreechubuntu_: Choose a new nick02:06
ubuntu_how (again, new to konversation)02:07
kerestype /nick nickname02:07
DaSkreechkeres: install kuser-kde402:07
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kereskuser-kde402:08
IchOkay, now I have a nic.02:08
keresDaSkreech: sudo apt-get install kuser-kde402:08
keresddidn work02:08
IchI put in the new hard drive (and got distracted, and did some other stuff)02:08
IchI'm gonna try to format that one.02:08
DaSkreechkeres: sorry try just kuser02:09
Ahmuckk, i found the problem.  for some reason the computer thinks that the limit of the desktop is way up in the sky.  is there a way to set the outside limits to the outside limits of the screeen ?02:09
IchKDE 4 sure is pretty... but then, what is the point of visual chrome anyway?02:09
IchI like that the desktop is actually a moveable widget-I neved liked desktops.02:09
Ryunixhalp how do i add rwx permissions for my user to a sudo file ?02:11
geniiRyunix: You can't use the command "sudo" ?02:12
DaSkreechRyunix: What are you trying to do?02:13
Ryunixgenii its for a game in usr/local02:13
Ryunixand i dont like game dirs in home02:14
geniiThats's not answering the question ...02:14
Ryunixgenni i cant use sudo everytime i want to run a game02:14
geniiRyunix: Why not? It's only 4 extra letters to type02:15
Ryunixwhat i am trying to do is add read write and execute permissions to my user alongside root02:15
Ryunixgenii so u recommend running online games in root ?02:15
DaSkreechRyunix: Why do you need to run it as root?02:16
geniiRyunix: At any rate, what you can do is visudo and add a command alias for the game binary and allow your username to run it with sudo without password02:16
Ryunixdaskreech: for the lols02:16
Ahmuckgot it fixed.  nm02:16
geniiman sudoers is somewhat interesting reading02:16
wesley__how do i update clamav?02:16
DaSkreechWhy do you need w for an executable?02:17
geniiRyunix: To answer your earlier Q I don't recommend running anything in root02:17
Ryunixgenii: i remember it was a chmod command but that was long ago and i didnt memorize it02:17
Ryunixis it 775 or 777? or 755?02:17
kalorindoes anyone know how to flash a bios under linux?02:17
kalorinor is it even possible, I know most of them are DOS or windows utilities02:18
DaSkreechRyunix: Seriously whatever you are doigng it sounds wrong02:18
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Ryunixdaskreech do you play games ? if so are they located in usr/local/games ? if so are they owned by root ?02:19
IchIt crashed again, this time on a diffrent, unrelated hard drive.  I don't think its the drive.02:19
DaSkreechThat has nothing to do with anything02:19
DaSkreechalmost all commands are owned by root02:19
kalorinIch, 8.10?02:19
IchYeah.02:19
kalorinI've been having some minor irratating issues with it02:19
Ryunixyeh i wqanna play games and i want the game directory to only have permissions for my user and root02:19
kalorinhad it lock a couple of times02:20
IchI tried heron LTS, same thing happened.02:20
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IchIts a conspiricy :(02:20
DaSkreechRyunix: then you should be changing the owner not the permissions02:20
kalorinI was running 7.10 fine02:20
kalorinit's a core2 adn I tried 64bit and it was a mess for me02:20
kalorinreally ran into issues02:20
DaSkreechRyunix: and that's kinda mean :)02:20
geniiRyunix: In sudoers: Cmnd_AliasKILL = /usr/bin/kill02:21
kalorinso i dropped back to 32bit cause it worked great with 32bit in 7.10 and I've been having minor issues since02:21
geniinah02:21
kalorinjust odd stuff02:21
IchI was running 8.06 poorly.  So I decided to upgrade.  I commit to partitions and kerblam.02:21
kalorinfirefox lockin the machine completely02:21
Ryunixdaskreech but that the question was is it possible to have permission for 2 users? or in a group02:21
Ichkalor, is your PC 64 or just 32 bit?02:21
kalorinit's a core2 so it's 6402:21
DaSkreechFor root you don't need permissions02:21
kalorin4gb of ram02:21
kalorinmaking me wonder if the board is having issues with the ram or something02:22
Ich4gb is way under the limit for 64 bit02:22
kalorinor a bios issue, so I was trying to figure out what to do to flash the bios without a bootable floppy (or a floppy at all)02:22
Ichand its the limit for 3202:22
kalorinwell sure02:22
DaSkreechand yeah you can manufacture a wide range of stuff with user and group permissions02:22
kalorinbut if you've got a bad chip that's up in the higher range it's possible you just never got up there much and so it never hit it02:22
IchWhat?02:23
kalorinor it's in the address space that's under the graphics cards space in 32bit but under 64 it's not02:23
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kalorinso you get up there and whack, bad address blows up machine02:23
keresIs there like a bandwidth meter widget for download anywhere?02:23
geniiRyunix: In sudoers: Cmnd_Alias  GAME = /usr/local/games/*                     then: yourusername   ALL = NOPASSWD: GAMES02:23
kalorinI'd like to see a CPU monitor for 8.1002:23
IchFandango on core :P02:23
geniior GAME rather in the second one02:23
IchCompile one02:23
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keresis there already one made though?02:23
IchDude, its not like you need special compatability for ubuntu 8.102:24
IchJust look in adept02:24
Ryunixdaskreech scrap that, i have confused myself and have confused you guys. what i actually meant is how do i create a group with rwx permissions and and add myself to it?02:25
IchSkreech, any flashes of inspiration about the installer problem02:25
IchIf not, where can I find a known good copy of the installer (that I can use from inside the CD?)02:25
goetzhow can I "chat" with the bot?02:25
Ryunix!02:25
goetzof the channel02:25
IchLike a robot...02:25
IchLike a robot...02:25
DaSkreechRyunix: change the group of the executable to to your personal hroup and give it 010 permissiosn02:26
IchLike a robot... Like a robot...02:26
goetz!help02:26
mister-tea!bot02:26
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:26
DaSkreechgoetz: try /msg ubottu help02:26
geniigoetz: /msg ubottu Hi02:26
RyunixDaSkreech thnx man02:26
Ryunixill see02:26
goetzRyunix: DaSkreech genii thanks all you!02:26
IchFunny part is... I don't know if my dad will be able to tell that he has no hard drive :P02:26
Ryunixgoetz: lol i was going to u beat me to it02:26
goetzmister-tea: thanks also02:27
* Ryunix has no manners02:27
mister-teanp02:27
goetzjej02:27
goetze02:27
RyunixDaSkreech genii i owe you02:28
* mister-tea gotta love those spanish laughs02:28
DaSkreechBeer and coffe02:28
geniiYes02:28
Ryunixlol02:28
geniiDaSkreech: At this point I'm on the beer...02:28
mister-tealabatts 50 if your buying02:29
Ryunixa guinness02:29
* Ryunix brings the beer then runs for it02:29
* genii sips02:29
* mister-tea watches the guiness cascade02:30
IchStuff is happening...02:30
Ryunixlol enjoy it u payin XD02:30
IchI can hear the loud disc drive...02:30
IchAnd see it's pretty light flashing02:30
Ichhard drives are harder to hear02:30
Ryunixits the spirit of the cpu02:30
Ichwait... yep, stuff is happening there too02:30
Ichcalculating files to skip copying02:31
Ichit usually gets about this far...02:31
Ichscanning files02:31
Ichthe disc stopped02:31
Ichcopying files02:31
Ichit usually gets here and dies02:31
Ich24%, it might actually work this time.02:31
Ich Maybe it was the drive...02:32
IchErrno 502:32
Ichfarked up copying files to disc02:32
IchMaybe it can't read something from the disc.02:33
geniiSmells like full HD02:33
Ryunixanyone getting a pandora?02:33
IchThe phone02:34
Ich?02:34
Ich(okay, I have no idea what or who a pandora is)02:34
PSiL0!amarok02:34
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok02:34
Ryunixno the open source gaming handheld/ umpc02:34
Ryunixsecond batch coming 200902:35
Ryunixhttp://openpandora.org/02:35
PSiL0!fstab02:35
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions02:35
IchDo we need an open souce gameing handheld?02:35
IchDon't we need open source games first?02:35
Ryunixhehe02:35
Ich(Yes, I know, AA, OA, Nexuiz)02:35
Ryunixport linux games to linux arm02:35
Ichbeep02:35
IchYeah, but I know of just three really good games.02:36
IchName some more and I'll play'em.02:36
Ich(exactly)02:36
Ryunixerm ..02:36
IchOkay.  So you'll have a wide array of games to play on this 'pandora'.02:37
IchThe three I mentioned are all FPSs.  I personally can't stand those unless I have an anolog stick or a mouse.  Has the pandora got one of those?02:37
Ryunixich but i think the whole " fastest handheld in the world " may convince a few high resource developers to code for the pandora02:37
Ryunixcheck the site02:37
IchSure it will.02:38
Ryunixcheck the forums02:38
IchBecause companies with monopolies maintain them by competeing.02:38
IchThats how it... works.02:38
IchRight?02:38
Ich(oligopoly, fine, but same principal)02:38
IchLook, there'll be a few good games.  If its cheap I may actually buy one, but only 'cause I wanna write my own games for it.02:39
IchI don't see "real" customers going for it.02:39
Ryunixa few closed source devs have shown interest tho02:39
IchId software, who are the other ones?02:39
Ryunixich your right its more for linux savvy people02:39
Ryunixich the forums have more info02:40
IchIf I had the money for a handheld, I'd spend it on a normal PC.  Also, is it a phone?02:40
faileasIch: id open sources all its engines eventually.. so their stuff runs on anything that they can02:40
IchCan I call people?  Can I dial someone and then telefrag them?02:40
faileasIch: if you wanted an open source phone, get the android dev kit, or openmoko02:40
IchI wanna know!  :)02:40
faileasno ;p02:41
IchI don't even want a land line phone, let alone one of those newfangled handhelds.02:41
* faileas wants the former ;p02:41
IchI'm happy with my telegraph, TYVM.02:41
faileasfull keyboard, multi touch screen, might run ubuntu...02:41
Ryunixich but this is the size of a ds and has 256mb ram and cortex a8. sure your laptop will be faster but the pandora can fit in your pocket and will never overheat02:42
IchYou can run ubuntu on a fridge... but why?  Why do you need ubuntu on a handheld02:42
* genii reprograms his Neo to understand Morse Code02:42
Ryunixich its not a phone02:42
IchActually, thats about as good as my laptop :(02:42
IchExcept it does overheat-I "liquid cool" it with bags of ice.02:42
RyunixXD02:43
IchHigh tech stuff.02:43
Ryunixim so very tired but that made me laugh02:43
IchIts so funny 'cause its true.02:43
IchI started lagging playing starcraft (1998, blizzard entertainment) got kinda pissed, and thought "well, if the fans can't do it, I guess I need liquid cooling".02:44
IchAnd went into the freezer.02:44
Ryunixi thought lagg had to do with internet02:44
arkygeekhi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?02:44
IchWell, low framerate.02:44
IchIf your comp can't keep up with everyone else's then you'll lag too.02:45
Ryunixoh ok02:45
faileasIch: well mainly package management, availability of packages, and such02:45
Ich(Blizzard is known for it's ingenious network code)02:45
IchSo are you real people, or is this just a clever excuse for someone to turing test a robot?02:46
Ryunixi gave up on starcraft leagues because i knew i was never going to be as good as the koreans02:46
IchI gave up on starcraft because I'd need copious amounts of caffine to play as fast as those people.02:46
IchI played UMS games.02:46
IchThe, one magical day, it just started crashing on Bnet login.02:47
IchI think I may have accidentally uninstalled some font or something.02:47
IchYeah.02:47
Ryunixhave you seen the televised competitions they have in korea? O.O wtf chicks screaming, thousands of fans cheering WTF!!!02:47
IchWould it be nutty to just use the live CD for everyday use on one machine02:47
Ichbecause it is misbehaveing when you try to actually install it?02:48
IchAlso, am I a total failure, and should I just crawl back to Gates cap in hand?02:48
faileasIch: no no and no02:48
arkygeekIch: there is a little trick you can use whereby you boot each time off the iso of the livecd... advantage being speed compared to running off a cd...02:49
IchGood, 'cause Windows XP 64 costs like a hundred bucks.02:49
faileasIch: however finding out whats causing the problem might be a good idea02:49
faileasas would maybe using alternate installer to install02:49
IchHow would I go about doing that?02:49
* Ryunix frowns at ich for even thinking of xp02:50
faileaslol02:50
faileasleast he wasn't thinking of vista ;)02:50
geniiIch: I just bought a copy of x64 Pro and it was like $180-something.02:50
IchThats sad.02:50
geniiI agree02:50
IchI think now that its out of print02:50
Ichits our duty to copy it, copyright be damned.02:51
IchOr just use WINE.02:51
faileaslol02:51
IchI've found WINE is a great way to ween you off windows programs...02:51
* faileas still has a win 2k box02:51
geniiI installed it into a 64bit VMWare machine, anyhow02:51
IchOnly reason to use winfails would be for games.02:51
Ryunixgenii: why when there are pirates who sail the seven seas to get you a free copy ?02:52
* mister-tea loves windows ...it's good for business02:52
IchAsk the somalis.02:52
IchThey know all about piracy >_>02:52
geniiRyunix: I need it for the work I do02:52
IchWhat work do you do with windows?02:52
faileasIch: that box has wierd problems with ubuntu, debian is kinda not up to date enough for my liking, and i happened to have a copy around. it works well enough ;p02:52
faileasmain box is kubuntu though02:52
geniiIch: Basically 3dMax stuff02:53
IchWhat work do you do with wondows?02:53
Ryunixgenii: yeah and these sailing pirates have got tons of copies you can download from their ships02:53
Ryunixfor free02:53
IchWhat, they don't let you use blender?02:53
IchARE THEN H4X8RZ!!???111 (humor)02:53
geniiIch: POVRay is good but not good enough, unfortunately. So we create in 3dMax, import to .pov and render on linux02:54
faileasgenii: would 3d max work without a 3d card? o002:55
IchCan a turing machine emulate a turing machine?02:55
IchSo, in closeing... what the f&*% should I do about not being able to install?02:55
geniifaileas: It doesn't care if your card is 3d or not02:56
mister-tea!piracy02:56
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Ich!somalia02:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about somalia02:56
IchBut you know about piracy?02:56
Ich!Captain red beard02:56
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:56
Ich!turning test02:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about turning test02:56
Ryunixi installed blender then a huge question mark crawled out of my head02:57
IchSure you don't >_>02:57
mister-tea!botabuse02:57
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".02:57
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IchOkay, this could be fun.02:57
Ich!humanity02:57
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Ich!computers02:57
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ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".02:57
Ryunixi wasnt talking about file piracu i was talking about somali pirates who give away windows02:57
mister-teaplease stop02:57
IchIt was just getting interesting.02:58
Ich!electric sheep02:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about electric sheep02:58
Ryunixmister-tea: would you like scones with that?02:58
geniiIch: Please, stop. It's getting annoying02:58
IchApparently, they do not dream about electric sheep.02:58
IchOkay, I'll stop.02:58
Ryunixgenii: can i wish for infinite wishes?02:59
mister-tea!ot02:59
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:59
IchI'll just see if the end-users would like to run in the live CD indefinitely...02:59
genii!helpersnack | mister-tea02:59
ubottumister-tea: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:59
* Ryunix goes to bed without a cookie03:00
mister-teammmm gingerbread03:00
Ryunixcyas03:00
IchThere isin't any FTP or something where I can just get a known-good version of the installer and install from that?03:00
geniiWe DO have #kubuntu-offtopic for more generalised talk guys :)03:00
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soapbarhi - im having trouble with resizing windows - if i move the mouse to the corner or edge of a window the resize icon comes up, but if i click-drag it does nothing03:14
soapbarim running kubuntu/hardy/amd64/compiz-fusion/xgl03:14
soapbarcan anyone help please?03:15
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soapbarthe fullscreen/halfscreen buttons at the top (between X and -) work fine03:16
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NecrosanHow is the new Kubuntu PPC build?03:39
benbloomI get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol03:40
* benbloom watches the tumble-weeds roll by03:48
draik!telnet03:49
ubottutelnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh03:49
copproI got KATE stuck in right-to-left03:52
copproany suggestions?03:52
copproweird, it went back to normal03:53
benbloomI get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found" and it's true. there is no enable_avahi anywhere on my system03:53
PSiL0!netsplit03:54
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:54
benbloomI'm reiterating this because of the netsplit >> I get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found" and it's true. there is no enable_avahi anywhere on my system03:57
* benbloom wistles with the breeze04:12
zigggggy!seen klobster04:13
ubottuI have no seen command04:13
zigggggy:/04:13
bfrogis there a python stackless package04:14
bfrogall I see is pypy-stackless04:14
soapbarhi - im having trouble with resizing windows - if i move the mouse to the corner or edge of a window the resize icon comes up, but if i click-drag it does nothing04:22
soapbarim running kubuntu/hardy/amd64/compiz-fusion/xgl04:22
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thomasmerlierhey04:40
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rvbhello, we are in the process of deciding to use wireless LAN , is it slow?05:12
rvband are the wireless LAN card supported by linux?05:12
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rvbis the wireless LAN slow?05:20
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netscaperalguem online ai ?05:29
netscaperq possa me ajudar05:30
netscaperola ?05:34
netscaperhttp://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorzd3.jpg05:35
netscapertoda vez que instalo o kubuntu e atualizo da esses problemas alguem sabe pq ?05:35
netscaperé algum bug da versao 8.10?05:36
gbainsany one has listing for vegas room05:39
faileasnetscaper: this is an english only channel- i;d point you to a more appropriate one but i'm not sure what that language is05:43
netscaperok05:45
netscaperfaileas: all time that I install kubuntu and I bring up to date of this problem05:46
netscaperhttp://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorzd3.jpg05:46
netscaperfaileas: it knows because this would be happening05:46
netscaper=/05:48
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duddieHi all ,How is everyone?06:38
duddieI am to install Limewire, in Kubuntu, help, anyone06:39
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duddieNobody knows I guess06:42
duddieis a kubuntu Guru in the house here?06:42
duddieI need help getting my Limewire installed, I attempted to install, but can't find Limewire anywhere.06:43
zoggyduddie: there's an open source equivalent on kubuntu called apollon06:50
zoggyapt:apollon06:50
bazhang!frostwire06:51
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:51
zoggyubottu: is that a better alternative to apollon?06:51
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:51
zoggyhaha06:52
zoggybazhang: is frostwire, in your opinion better than apollon?06:55
duddiefrostwire,, ok, I will give it a try.06:56
duddiebrb06:56
bazhang!info apollon06:56
ubottuapollon (source: apollon): KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2.1-2 (intrepid), package size 442 kB, installed size 1664 kB06:56
bazhangzoggy, they are not the same thing06:56
zoggybazhang: according to my research, they sound similar.... here's a sentence about apollon:07:00
zoggy"Apollon is an easy to use peer to peer client for the KDE Desktop. It supports the Gnutella, OpenFT.."07:00
zoggy"...and FastTrack networks. This makes installing applications like Limewire redundant"07:01
bazhangzoggy, never used either of them; frostwire is quite similar to limewire apparently though07:02
zoggybazhang: ok cool thanks07:02
bazhangzoggy, supports...does not mean 'works well with'07:02
zoggyhehe07:02
zoggytouche07:02
duddie_Whats up all, Kubuntu, Rocks, on my Lappy07:17
pulaskihello, I'm trying run dpkg.  I received this error: 'Package libticalcs2-7 is not configured yet" What is the dpkg form for reconfiguring an existing packes?07:18
AyabaraI have two screens and I want to set resolution and arrange the screens. How do I do this in kde4? I can only find the resolution settings..08:28
AyabaraShould I use ati's tool?08:30
skabethi08:41
skabetAnyone know what i should do if kwin continues to crash?08:42
skabetgives a segfault on start08:43
estresskabet: the better you can do is make a backup and reinstall yor OS08:43
skabetwell, that is not going to be an option :)08:44
estresok, there is another08:44
estresyou can try to erase /home/user/.kde08:44
skabettried that08:44
estresOh i see08:45
skabetsame thing08:45
skabetbut i think i came after an small update08:45
estreswell I have no other ideas08:45
estresactually KDE is a little dificult to keep it in good shape08:45
estresafter some intalls or upgrades08:46
estresit goes down08:46
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estresan present that kind of problems08:46
skabethow do i check what was updated latest?08:46
estresyou will find it in the logs08:46
estresbut I do not know where are they08:47
estresif an upgrade08:47
estresis your problem you can not solve unisntalling08:47
estresthat upgrade08:47
estresI can tell you08:47
estresbecause all upgrades kill the old versions for good08:48
estresbut upgrades never cause that kind of problems08:48
estresexept08:48
estresif un have upgraded to a beta version08:49
estresif you08:49
estresI mean08:49
comeditMy kubuntu screen often gets "grey" like in low power mode08:59
comediti can't find a setting where to alter this08:59
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potwakhow can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?09:18
PSiL0anyone installed the openoffice 3 update?09:18
PSiL0or have taken it for a test drive?09:18
PSiL0!openoffice09:18
ubottua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org09:18
potwaki'm using VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP09:19
potwakthanks for any help.09:19
potwak=)09:19
potwakcould someone help me. i'm running out of time now. :|09:21
PSiL0potwak: seems like many people had trouble with this card09:21
PSiL0http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=93653509:21
potwakThanks.. :)09:22
PSiL0https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UniChrome09:22
PSiL0here's a guide09:22
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PSiL0potwak: I think the guide I posted is the solution09:23
potwakPSiL0: Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.09:23
PSiL0ahhh, openoffice 3 from launchpad is crashing all over the place.. *sigh*09:25
comeditMy kubuntu screen often gets "grey" like in low power mode09:25
comediti can't find a setting where to alter this09:25
comeditthere is a howto i am on 3.0 without a problem09:25
comeditjust a sec09:25
PSiL0thanx...09:25
PSiL0i just updated using adept from a launchpad repo listed in one of the guides..09:26
comedithttp://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.0409:26
comeditworks as well for 8.1009:26
PSiL0cooll09:27
PSiL0will sudo apt-get autoremove openoffice.org suffice?09:28
sascha_does anybody know about redraw problems using kde4, compiz and konsole?09:29
sascha_sometimes i have to hit enter twice to see the results of a command09:30
janorcutt!amarok09:30
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok09:30
sascha_after the first enter, nothing changes in konsole09:30
sascha_but when i force a redraw event, everything is right09:30
ActionParsnipyo yo yo09:31
comeditPSiL0: just follow the tutorial it tells you alkso how to uninstall09:31
PSiL0ok09:32
PSiL0thans09:32
PSiL0thanks09:32
comeditMy kubuntu screen often gets "grey" like in low power mode (8.10)09:38
PSiL0man, adept is pretty pitiful (at this stage) in removing packages09:38
PSiL0comedit: serves to save battery life in laptops09:39
comedita for some reason my system settings menu is not starting up anymore09:39
comedityeah but i can't find where to alter that09:39
comeditPSiL0: install synaptic and use that09:40
PSiL0i did09:40
ActionParsnipPSiL0: or use apt, nice and easy09:40
PSiL0i usually use synaptic to remove packages, I don't know why I used adept instead to remove ooo 3.009:40
PSiL0hah, that was my first inclination :-p09:41
MamarokPSiL0: some usability specialist should have a look at adept anyways09:47
Mamaroknot usable by many new users I fear09:47
arkygeekhi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?09:47
Mamarokarkygeek: it's Kubuntu 8.10, .10 being the month of release09:48
Mamarokarkygeek: what updates did you make? And wich version of KDE 4?09:48
arkygeekwhatever version was on the disk i guess09:48
arkygeeki enabled the backports.09:49
PSiL0Mamarok:  Yeah, I heard rumblings about Adept not being ready for primetime yet.  But credit the person who had to build a new package manager from scratch09:49
arkygeekjust thought of that. crap.09:49
PSiL0woohoo, openoffice 3 installed..09:50
arkygeekkernel 2.6.27.909:50
Mamarokarkygeek: no, that shouldn't be a problem, it simply depends on what updates you made, you didn't do any new package installs, didn't you?09:50
PSiL0I shall never forsake cli again09:50
MamarokPSiL0: +1 :)09:51
ActionParsnipwhat is the difference betwenn apt-get and aptitude09:51
PSiL0now I can get back to my data quantification...09:51
arkygeekyes actually....  I installed some things to set up a dev environment as per the qgis.org web site .   do you want to see the url?09:51
MamarokActionParsnip: aptitude resumes many different apt-something tools09:52
ActionParsnipMamarok: resumes?09:52
Mamarokarkygeek: so you added packages from the outside?09:52
arkygeekno no09:52
MamarokActionParsnip: pulls together09:52
arkygeekMamarok: nothing added from the outside09:52
ActionParsnipMamarok: you lost me09:53
ActionParsnipMamarok: apt-get installs all deps for an app and can remove orphaned deps. Surely they both do that09:53
arkygeekMamarok: http://wiki.qgis.org/qgiswiki/BuildingFromSource#head-8e1e1ff25b5e9f587393e0592c0ff34891ec07cc09:54
MamarokActionParsnip: did you try aptitude?09:55
Mamarokyou can use apt-cache search, etc in the same app09:56
Mamarokelse, you have to type every command separately09:56
PSiL0hmmm, I hope adept's botched openoffice upgrade was just a one-off, or there will be quite a few angry people coming in here tomorrow09:56
ActionParsnipMamarok: ive always used apt-get09:57
Mamarokarkygeek: why did you build from source?09:57
ActionParsnipMamarok: i dont get why there are so many package handlers09:57
MamarokActionParsnip: give aptitude a try, you'll see :)09:57
ActionParsnipMamarok: well i've got nothing more to install, the system is optimal :D09:57
ActionParsnipMamarok: ive even got a script to do a full update from cli09:58
ActionParsnipMamarok: i dont like gui installers, they take forever09:58
Mamarokarkygeek: also, your kernel is a bit outdated09:58
MamarokActionParsnip: it's not GUI :)09:59
arkygeekMamarok: i built because i do a lot of testing for them09:59
Mamarokarkygeek: you should use the Qt4 packages that come with your distribution...10:00
arkygeekMamarok: i am trying to set up wy wifi from cli10:00
ActionParsnipMamarok: good, gui is silly10:00
arkygeekcant seem to get any dhcp offers :-(10:02
ActionParsniparkygeek: if you set static ip, can you ping your dhcp server?10:03
pronoyActionParsnip: i downloaded the amarok 1.98 tar.gz but i can't install it ? how do i install it ?10:03
ActionParsnippronoy: tar zxvf <file>10:04
ActionParsnippronoy: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:04
ActionParsnippronoy: then compile by reading the readme10:04
pronoyok10:04
pronoyi'll get back to youi10:04
ActionParsnippronoy: or you can install from repo10:05
ActionParsnippronoy:once you have compiled, i'd suggest making a deb10:05
pronoyActionParsnip: the repo isnt' there on the site10:05
ActionParsnippronoy: so uninstallation is easier10:05
ActionParsnippronoy: sudo apt-get install amarok10:05
PSiL0ActionParsnip:  I think that will install 1.4.x if I am not mistaken10:06
Mamarokpronoy: why don't you use the existing package?10:06
pronoyActionParsnip: amarok 2 is beta version......i just get 1.4 when i install it using apt get10:06
Mamarokthere is a special repo for it:10:06
ActionParsnippronoy: true, well then you'll need to compile10:06
ActionParsnippronoy: or use neon10:06
ActionParsnip!neon10:07
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon10:07
PSiL0http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-110:07
arkygeekActionParsnip: no i cant10:07
PSiL0add the appropriate repo10:07
Mamarokpronoy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main10:07
PSiL0sudo apt-get install amarok-kde410:07
Mamarokmake sure to unistall amarok 1.4.x first though!10:07
PSiL0and that too!10:07
pronoyMamarok: does this repo include amarok 1.9810:08
arkygeekaarrghhh10:08
Mamarokpronoy: yes, 1.98 == RC110:08
pronoyPSiL0: dis just gives the tar file10:08
PSiL0add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" to your /etc/apt/sources.list file10:10
PSiL0then sudo apt-get install amarok-kde410:10
PSiL0that i what I did when trying out 1.98 a couple weeks ago10:10
pronoyPSiL0: is amarok 2 better ?10:11
PSiL0I didn't have time to really fiddle around with it, so now I'm back on 1.4.210:11
PSiL0pronoy:  I don't know, I think it is a judgment call10:11
PSiL0I didn't notice anything vastly different between the two when it came to performance..10:12
pronoyPSiL0: yeah ok :)10:12
PSiL0I missed having a context script fetching album reviews and placing them in the music tab10:13
pronoyPSiL0: is this version stable ?10:13
MamarokPSiL0: 1.4.2???10:13
PSiL0I heard amarok 2 has something like that, but I'll revisit it.10:13
Mamarokthat is like 3 years old!!!10:13
PSiL0whoops10:13
PSiL01.4.1010:13
PSiL0sorry10:13
Mamarok:)10:14
Mamarokpronoy: Amarok 2 is new and different10:14
pronoyMarmarok: ok......so its unstable :)10:14
PSiL0Actually, you are probably the person I should ask.  Is it possible to have the comments field or any custom field show up in the central panel?10:14
Mamarokno, it's not unstable!!!!10:14
pronoyMarmarok: kidding :)10:15
PSiL0pronoy:  You should play around with it to see if you like it..10:15
pronoyPSiL0: i will thanks for support10:15
MamarokPSiL0: it's certainoly possible, but not implemented yet10:15
Mamarok*certainly10:15
PSiL0np.. good luck!10:15
MamarokI gues somebody has to write a widget for it10:15
Mamarokguess10:16
PSiL0that's right..10:16
Mamarokpronoy: Amarok 2 is due any day now....:)10:16
Mamarok2.010:16
PSiL0It is just little holdover feature I liked using in mediamonkey that threw up the comments field, along with other metadata in a side panel a la the music context tab in 1.4.x10:16
PSiL0will, the release candidate is out10:17
PSiL0actually after editing your sources.list, make sure you type sudo aptitude update10:18
MamarokPSiL0: and the devs have already tons of new features in their git branches for 2.1 :)10:18
PSiL0Mamarok:  Looking forward to them...10:19
PSiL0Mamarok:  At least amarok retained its snappiness in handling large collections10:19
PSiL0something itunes and songbird are woeful at doing currently10:19
pronoyPSiL0 Mamarok guys the repo doesn't have amarok-kde4 package......10:19
PSiL0pronoy: did you "sudo aptitude update"?10:20
MamarokPSiL0: if you follow this instructions, you can build your own 2.0.1 :10:20
Mamarokhttp://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/833-Installing-Amarok-2-from-SVN-in-your-home-directory.html10:20
PSiL0ahhhh... nice...10:20
pronoyPSiL0 nope....sorry... :D10:20
Mamarokpronoy: just look for amarok10:20
johannes_hei guys! trying to install my brother mfc printer. follow the guidelines. try to install rpm package with kpackage or smaratpm. same problem: error. cannot create channel for .... what can i do?10:21
Mamarokactually, yes, package name is amarok-kde410:22
Mamarokjohannes_: what rpm package are you talking about?10:24
Mamarokjohannes_: did you check the linuxprinting.org website to see if it's actually supported?10:25
pronoy_PSiL0, Mamarok: AMAROK 2 ITS ULTRA COOL :d10:33
PSiL0glad you like it..10:33
pronoy_PSiL0: can you please explain a bit about neon..... ?10:33
PSiL0Isn't that nightly builds?   I don't know to tell you the truth10:34
pronoy_ok maybe Mamarok can help ?10:35
PSiL0pornoy_:  Gotta run.. enjoy messing aroudn with the new amarok...10:35
pronoy_PSiL0: thanks.....cya10:35
Guest320Hi. Just did a full system reinstall and updated packages and nvidia driver. Now X crash whenever i log in (i get to the part where it shows my desktop)10:36
pronoy_Mamarok: can you please explain about NEON /10:36
johannes_Mamarok: i already had this printer installed on my gentoo box, so i guess it's supported.10:40
johannes_Mamarok: it's 2 different printer packages ... lpd package and cupswrapper package10:41
Mamarokjohannes_: did you check if these are available in the package list?10:44
johannes_Mamarok: how to do this?10:45
Mamarokapt-cache search lpd and the same again for cupswrapper10:45
Mamarokjohannes_: else, you can install rpm packages using the alien command, but you will have to install the latter first10:46
johannes_Mamarok: actually i think this is what i tried by using kpackage and smartpm ... and those errored telling me something about a missing channel for the package... so i thought the system must recognize the package for example as a KDE/Printing package .. however.. i'll try this alien command10:48
Mamarokjohannes_: even better, do "apt-cache search brother10:48
Mamarokwhat do you mean by "missing channel"?10:48
johannes_Mamarok: well, i don't know. that's what i get by kpackage ... i'll just try alien... well. the apt-cache get's me the desired packages, but i think those are installed and MY PRINTER (like a version) is missing10:49
Mamarokjohannes_: you speak German, don't you?10:49
johannes_Mamarok: ja10:50
Mamarokgo to #kubuntu-de, I can explain better10:50
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pcfreak_is there a known bug with thunderbird in 8.10 it does not start here, only once when creating a profile. it never opens the application visible to me!10:54
instormW11:00
mokinyshi all11:09
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Kirisakufuck11:10
Kirisakuhow to use this thing??? XD11:10
MamarokKirisaku: behave!11:10
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Sascha_damalstype some letters und hit enter11:11
Mamarokmokinys: what thing ?11:11
mokinysubuntu11:11
Mamarokmokinys: you should be a tad more specific...11:11
mokinyswait i think i got it...11:11
mokinysXD11:11
mokinysno "mycomputer" ?XDD11:12
Mamarokmokinys: please, be specific, we can't help you if you don't write correct phrases!11:13
mokinysoh realy?11:13
Sascha_damalsi think he is missing some windows stuff11:13
mokinysi think too11:13
mokinysXD11:13
Sascha_damalslike the start button and a my computer icon11:13
bazhangmokinys, do  you have a kubuntu support question?11:13
mokinyshmm maybe...11:13
bazhang!ask | mokinys11:14
ubottumokinys: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:14
mokinyswhere are my desktop games11:14
mokinysXDDD11:14
mokinys?11:14
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mokinyswhere is my chuck Norris game? XD11:15
Mamarokmokinys: how old are you, 12?11:15
bazhang!offtopic | mokinys11:15
ubottumokinys: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:15
mokinysą“11:16
mokinys1011:16
mokinysyeah offtopic11:16
mokinysXD11:16
Mamarokmokinys: please behave or leave!11:16
mokinysbehave your mother\Ą11:16
mokinysXD11:16
Sascha_damalswhen i see this writing, maybe you should stick to windows, mokinys11:17
Mamaroksome admin here?11:17
mokinyswell now is the computer lesson so teacher told me to be in ubuntu lol11:17
mokinysXD11:17
Sascha_damalsyou got computer lessons in first class?11:18
Mamarok*sigh*11:19
arkygeek_Mamarok: sorry, had to dash out....  i am having probs getting wifi to connect from cli... :-(  my router is set to no encryption.... it connects easily from the gui, but as you will recall, i can't get to the gui....11:35
Mamarokarkygeek_: you should kill your X server11:36
arkygeek_Mamarok: sudo iwlist shows cell 01 :  address 00:13:46:FD:35:AD11:37
arkygeek_Mamarok: ok.... ermmmm11:37
Mamarokctrl+alt+backspace11:37
arkygeek_ive tried that11:37
arkygeek_same thing11:37
Mamarokthen what is this kde-greet package you are talking about?11:38
arkygeek_that is gone now11:38
arkygeek_sorry i misunderstood11:38
arkygeek_ok, you know when you start up, you get the nice dark grey background with the fancy swirly things on it, and a login window...11:38
arkygeek_i dont get the login window.  just the background and a mouse cursor11:39
Mamarokok, that might be an install problem, do you have kdm installed?11:39
arkygeek_yes11:40
Mamarokother possibility is the X driver you use, what type of graphic card do you have?11:40
arkygeek_oh!11:40
arkygeek_i enabled the restricted driver (fglrx or whatever.... ati card)11:40
Mamarokhm, that could be a problem, what is your card?11:41
arkygeek_it was running great until that come to think of it.  and then it coincided with the qgis build11:41
arkygeek_checking11:41
arkygeek_radeom x300SE11:41
Mamarokhm, sounds great11:41
Sascha_damalsYou had a look in /var/log/kdm.log?11:42
arkygeek_radeon i mean :P11:42
Mamarokarkygeek_: why not get rid of the external packages you installed?11:42
arkygeek_what external packages though11:42
arkygeek_everything came from ubuntu repos11:42
Mamarokand use the Qt4 packages that go with Kubuntu11:42
Mamarokarkygeek_: but you installed from source, bad idea sometimes11:42
Mamaroknuke them and install the *.deb packages in the official repos11:43
arkygeek_just the qgis though....11:43
arkygeek_oh i think i see something11:43
arkygeek_log file: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found11:44
arkygeek_^ 2x11:44
arkygeek_then :11:44
arkygeek_kdmgreet(5510) KLocalPrivate::initEncoding: Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.11:45
arkygeek_^ a lot of those11:45
MamarokOo, did you change your X server settings?11:45
arkygeek_don't *think* so11:45
Mamarokarkygeek_: check the previous Xorg logs11:46
Mamarokor just try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg11:46
arkygeek_then reboot?11:47
Mamarokno, only restart the x server11:48
arkygeek_Mamarok:  kdmgreet still at 100%cpu11:50
arkygeek_ermmmm i mean kdm_greet11:50
arkygeek_it might be quicker for me to reinstall the whole os11:51
arkygeek_:-(11:51
Mamarokarkygeek_: no idea what this kdm_greet is you have11:51
Mamarokarkygeek_: did you try to move your .kde/?11:52
Mamaroksometimes a config problem11:52
arkygeek_will try11:52
arkygeek_that did nothing.  but when i think about it.... i don't even get to TRY those settings.  it gives me no chance to even log in11:53
arkygeek_Mamarok: it doesn't get that far :P11:53
Mamarokarkygeek_: well, you can move .kde/ from the command line11:54
arkygeek_i did11:54
Mamarokyou shouldn't move it once kde is started :)11:54
Mamarokok, so something is missing in your packages I guess11:54
Mamarokarkygeek_: why not remove those qgis files?11:56
Mamarokas it worked before you installed them...11:56
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yankohey12:43
yankoi need some ubuntu help12:43
yankoany one can help me?12:43
Tm_T!anyone12:43
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:43
yankoi hate bots12:43
Tm_Tyanko: why so?12:44
yankothey are stupid12:44
yankothey do what you program them to do lol12:44
yankook now12:44
Tm_Tyanko: IMHO that's smart12:44
yankodoes anyone know why when i install ubuntu on a drive  thats not partions and shared with windows vista12:45
yankoit does not allow me to boot ubuntu it shows me a cmd line  for grub>12:46
yanko?12:46
desuyanko: using wubi?12:46
yankowell i installed ubuntu with in wubi12:46
yankowith in vista lol using wubi12:46
desuhmm...12:47
desutry doing this in the grub command line:12:47
yanko??12:47
desuroot (hd0,<partition number minus 1>)12:47
desuchainloader +112:47
desuboot12:47
desuthat should be able to run windows boot manager and get you back into windows12:47
yankoi am able to chosse between windows and ubuntu12:48
desuah, i see...12:48
yankowindows bootloader12:48
desuhmm..12:48
desudid you delete any kubuntu files?12:48
yankonope12:48
yankoubutnu i use**12:48
desuwas it working previously?12:48
yankoi could not get anyone in #ubuntu to hel me12:49
desui see...12:49
desuwas it working previously?12:49
yankois there a way to boot ubuntu within the grub?12:49
yankolike a code or something?12:49
desuyes, and that's why i'm asking if it was working when you'd installed it12:50
desuso, was it?12:50
yanko different partions it works   i am on it now12:50
desuno, as in, when you'd installed it with wubi, did it workthe first time time or has it been like this forever?12:50
yankoand i need about 20gb12:50
yankowith wubi?? i was in vista i insert the cd ubuntu8.10  and it sais what i want to do12:51
yankoi choose install in windows  and it installes it12:51
Paddy_EIREI personally would not endorse wubi at all12:52
yankowhn it on same drive different partions it works fine12:52
yankowhen**12:52
yankobut when i put it on another drive it shows me grub>  on the boot12:52
yankoit does not boot ubuntu it shoes grub>12:52
desudid you shut down windowscleany?12:52
desu*windows cleanly12:53
yankoyea12:53
desuhmm...12:53
desuwhich partition number did you install ubuntu on?12:53
desu(in the wubi install)12:53
yankoe:12:53
yanko6gb12:54
yankod: sorry12:54
yanko15gb12:54
desui'm guessing d is the second partition on your drive?12:54
yankonope12:54
yankoit a hardrive12:54
yankono partions on it12:55
desui see...12:55
yankoall tho i got some files on it12:55
randagiociao12:55
yankociao12:55
yankolike movies12:55
randagioyanko ki sei tu?12:55
randagioyes12:55
randagioitalian movies12:55
yankoi dont speak italian12:55
desuis the entire hard drive formatted as one?12:55
yankoor prtugies12:55
randagioI speak english12:56
yankoit was12:56
randagioand french12:56
randagionothing12:56
yankothan is used it for storage12:56
randagioonly to say bye12:56
yankoca va bien mon ami?12:56
desu...12:56
randagiotrès bien12:56
randagio:P12:56
desuplease boot from a live CD and paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" to rafb.net/paste12:56
MamarokFolks, keep it English please :)12:56
yankotu iend d ou?12:56
randagioc'è qualke italiano????12:56
randagiosouth italy12:56
randagiolecce12:57
randagiomauroooooo12:57
Mamarokrandagio: !it12:57
randagioci sei?'12:57
Mamarok !it | randagio12:57
ubotturandagio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)12:57
randagiochi mi dice come funziona sta cosa?12:57
randagiograzie12:57
Mamarokti prego12:57
yankoanyway12:58
yankothank you12:58
yankogtg got to work i ll try to talk here tonght for mor info12:58
yankobye12:58
linux_всем привет12:59
desu!ru | linux_12:59
ubottulinux_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:59
knusperfroschhi!13:03
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knusperfroschkleopatra on 8.10 wants a gpgME-lib that supports gpgConf13:04
guidhi.13:09
guidKubuntu intrepid have difficulties to manage my Dell (D520) laptop screen + LCD Screen.  Someone knows a solution?13:10
ariel_guyss kopete drives me crazy how can I install something else easily?13:11
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dhendu9411does anyone know how to adjust key/button mappings for input devices?13:15
faileasariel_: you could probably install pidgin - sudo apt-get install pidgin in CLI13:16
ariel_thx faileas! love u13:22
dhendu9411I have tried adding custom actions in the "Input Actions" section of the system settings, but they don't seem to work at all.13:25
dhendu9411no matter what I put in them13:25
dhendu9411any help would be appreciated13:26
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BluesKajhowdy all13:32
knusperfroschanyone running 4.2-beta1? many rough edges?13:33
BluesKajknusperfrosch, actually it's not too bad so far ..better than I figured13:34
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root嘿嘿 有人吗?13:36
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BluesKajknusperfrosch, still have a bit of trouble figuring out the panels taskbars etc , but that's just kde413:37
BluesKaj!cn | root13:37
ubotturoot: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk13:37
BluesKajroot is not a safe nick!13:38
Guest81407Why my KDE4 in Kubuntu is a bit slow, my hardware is CM540 with 1.5G Memery?13:38
knusperfroschBluesKaj: got a lot of trouble with 4.1 so just trying to figure out if it's really getting worse ;)13:38
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arkygeek_Mamarok:  I am going to reinstall the os.  :-(  I can't sort it out13:39
BluesKaji would say it's quite good, knusperfrosch13:39
Guest81407I like using root in Kubuntu, bucause it is very convinient13:39
BluesKajgotta take out the garbage ..BBL13:39
BluesKajGuest81407, it's also convenient for anyone to take over youerpc13:40
Guest81407HeiHei13:40
arkygeek_Guest81407: whats your ip address???13:40
arkygeek_n/m  got it13:41
Guest81407192.168.0.11013:41
Guest81407the internat13:41
cameron_help an appreciative newbie (me!) I have a suspicon that my external hard drive is failing, is there a utility to confirm or deny this?13:41
arkygeek_no actually it is something else.  dont use root.13:41
Guest81407I've got it, thank you. arkgeek13:42
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Guest81407Can you help me solve the slow of Kubuntu13:42
Guest81407my hardware is not bad , but i feel a bit slow in kubuntu13:43
arkygeek_Guest81407: are you using a livecd?13:44
Guest81407not,I have installed it in my PC13:45
arkygeek_!sudo Guest8140713:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sudo Guest8140713:47
arkygeek_!sudo13:47
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesudo (KDE)13:47
Guest81407I know sudo, but every time it always need to input passwd,13:48
Guest81407This is the basic knowledge13:48
knusperfroschapachelogger: adept failure for 4.2-beta1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82954/13:52
knusperfroschJontheEchidna, vorian ping :)13:54
BluesKajknusperfrosch, do you have the ppa repos in your sources.list ?13:55
cameron_okay well using the power of google, I was able to find 'smartd' how do I install it now?13:56
cameron_doesn't show up in the add/remove programs list13:56
cameron_it also seems to be for gentoo linux?13:56
knusperfroschBluesKaj: sure, but there is a collision of kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb and koffice-data-kde413:57
BluesKajknusperfrosch, perhaps a bug report is in order at ww.launchpad.net14:00
BluesKajerr www.launchpad.net14:00
BluesKaj!launchpad14:00
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/14:00
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JontheEchidnaknusperfrosch: those koffice packages are known to be incompatible, just14:03
JontheEchidnaremove them :P\14:04
ActionParsnipyo yo yo14:12
BluesKajyo14:12
eagles0513875hey ActionParsnip14:12
eagles0513875hey BlueEagle14:12
ActionParsnipquiet in here14:18
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* ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow14:22
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Nibbler`hi there, i've upgraded my kde to the experimental branch top 4.2 is it possible to return to the stable version .14:27
Nibbler`?14:27
ActionParsnipNibbler`: you'll have to remove the one you have, then install the original14:28
ActionParsnipNibbler`: you MAY be able to sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop14:28
ActionParsnipNibbler`: but it will reinstall a tonne of stuff14:29
joey__any  one got amarok-kde4 Reps to work in 8.1014:31
JontheEchidnahttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-114:32
joey__iv tried that but it does not show up in the package manager14:32
Nibbler`ActionParsnip so i should change the source.list, and then reinstall the kde stuff humm14:33
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Mamarokjoey__: you must install the deb sources in this webpage in your sources.list :)14:34
knusperfroschJontheEchidna "just remove them", isn't that easy apt refuses to remove anything14:34
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get install -f14:35
knusperfroschnope14:35
joey__i put deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main in the source list as bin14:35
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82973/14:36
Nibbler`ActionParsnip hum no won't work i guess i'm good for reinstalling my system :)14:36
ikoniaJuJuBee: can you part and re-join the channel please14:36
JontheEchidnasudo dpkg -i --force-install /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.de14:37
JontheEchidnashould also alleviate the need to remove koffice214:37
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: so koffice is knowen to be incompatible, why not write it down there as first step?: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/5814:37
ikoniaJuJuBee: can you also join #ubuntu-ops please if you having problems still14:37
Nibbler`so basically the apt system won't allow you to revert to some paktage ?14:38
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `install'14:39
BluesKajunless you remove  first then reinstall the reversion14:39
JontheEchidnaoh, --force-overwrite, my bad14:39
knusperfroschthx14:39
BluesKajJontheEchidna, my bad what ?14:40
Mamarokjoey__: exactly14:40
JontheEchidnaBluesKaj: that's an expression that means "my fault"14:40
Mamarokjoey__: then you update your packege list, then you can see the amarok-kde4 package14:40
BluesKajoh14:40
BluesKajI thought it was ghetto talk14:41
knusperfroschso who can edit dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `install'14:41
knusperfroschwhoops14:41
joey__yes I did all that but it still does not show up. I also have a lot of reps that when it refreshes they fell but that is a nother problem14:41
knusperfroschso who can edit http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 ?14:42
* JontheEchidna tries to remember the password for the website14:43
Mamarokjoey__: what version of Kubuntu and KDE4 do you use?14:43
joey__Mamarok 8.10 with KDE 4.2 Beta 114:44
JuJuBeeikonia: ?14:45
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: kwallet? :D14:45
JuJuBeeAh... that's better.  Thank you very much.14:45
Mamarokjoey__: did you check that your sources.list is ok, no typos in it?14:45
JontheEchidna:P14:45
Mamarokjoey__: are you using apt-get or adept or else?14:45
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: hooray, next one, kjots_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_i386.deb vs. kmail14:45
joey__adept but i tried apt-get also and no go. I'll check the source.list now14:46
JontheEchidnaknusperfrosch: known, the fix just needs to be applied to the ppa packages14:46
Mamarokjoey__: once your lines are ok, you can type the following in your konsole:14:46
JontheEchidnathings are a little bit crazy since everybody's at the developer's summit though14:46
Mamaroksudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install amarok-kde414:47
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: hmm k, so i can't do anything about that one?14:47
JontheEchidna--force-overwrite, like before14:47
BluesKajkmail in kde4.2 is just getting too silly , not connecting properly to the server kept getting pw errors so I switched back to thunderbird14:47
joey__this is whats in the source list deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main14:48
ikoniaJuJuBee: yup14:48
kr8watsup?14:48
ikoniaJuJuBee: all good14:48
JuJuBeeThanks.14:48
Mamarokjoey__: ok14:48
Mamarokno preceeding # I hope :)14:48
joey__no Manarok there is not14:49
JuJuBeeAnybody know what to do about the screen fliker with intrepid and Nvidia GeForce 8600?14:50
kr8My name is Andrew:)14:50
JuJuBeeikonia: would it suffice for me to block port 667 from my students?14:50
kr8Hallo14:51
kr8i am 2414:52
knusperfroschanyone else with screwed icons? had it in 4.1.3 and in 4.2-beta1. looks like my settings are messed up?14:54
Mamarokknusperfrosch: screwed where?14:54
knusperfroschMamarok: eg kickoff. the icon is the rewind button14:55
Ryunixis it recommended to have a file which doesnt belong to root, in usr/local/games ?14:55
knusperfroschNakkel: kickoff->leave all icons are the same "computer with kubuntu logo on the screen"14:55
knusperfroschNakkel: sry14:55
JuJuBeeikonia: sorry, I meant to ask if it would suffice for me to block port 6667?  TCP or UDP?14:56
joey__Manarok apt-get saw it and was able to install it but adapt can't see the reps but its install now and working thanks.14:56
Mamarokknusperfrosch: looks ok for me, but the icons in the system tray are borked14:57
Mamarokjoey__: you're welcome :)14:57
Mamarokjoey__: usre apt-get or aptitude then, as adept is not very user friendly IMHO14:57
Mamarokjoey__: and my nick is Mamarok, not Manarok14:58
Mamarokuse tab completion :)14:58
pcfreak_is there a guide out there, how to safely backup kmail and all settings? I just setup everything and want to make sure I can theoretically reinstall my machine tomorrow without loosing anything14:58
wallabeeEverytime i open a program... i.e. firefox  the window looks like a bunch of distorted color lines and hangs for a second then i get a nice clean firefox( or whatever window) is there a way to correct this ?? or is this just how kubuntu behaves??14:58
joey__opps Im sorry ok ill will use  the others14:59
pcfreak_wallabee: that are the new optical features of kde4 I think14:59
BluesKajwallabee, kubuntu 8.10 ?14:59
wallabeepcfreak: yes 8.1014:59
knusperfroschare icons cached anywhere?15:00
wallabeepcfreak: so it is supposed to do that or there is an error with the optical feature?15:00
wallabeepcfreak: i tried browsing through my appearence settings just to seen if there was some effect that it might be trying and just not able to do that well but i didnt really find anything that would effect the opening of the window15:02
knusperfroschwhohoo shiny shiny 4.2 :)15:03
arkygeek_what can i expect to happen if i enable backports and then dist-upgrade?15:04
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wallabeei must say the support on this channel is far from that on the ubuntu channel... just sayin15:22
faileasarkygeek_: not much other than having everything updated with the backports repo15:22
nikola_Is this new version of KDE always this slow?15:23
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wallabeehow slow?15:24
nikola_Awfully slow...15:24
nikola_The previous KDE 3.5 was very, very fast for me :)15:24
nikola_This new KDE 4 is killing me...15:25
arkygeek_nikola_: perhaps you should use 3.5 :-)15:25
arkygeek_nikola_: what are your system specs?15:25
wallabeei think 4 still a little buggy but it runs pretty smooth on my system15:26
Mamarokarkygeek_: kde-nightly runs *very* smooth here15:26
SSJ_GZCertain combinations of nvidia cards and drivers can kill performance.15:26
Mamarok:)15:27
nikola_arkygeek: i don't have a clue, i just bought this new laptop, but vista worked faster than KDE 4 (when the system was loaded)15:27
nikola_And Graphics sometimes glitch alot.15:27
arkygeek_maybe you should try the restricted driver for your video card?15:27
nikola_I tried that, it won't enable it, dunno why tho.15:28
nikola_Im using ATI series15:28
arkygeek_ahhh15:28
arkygeek_that was happening to me15:28
wallabeehow can one go about getting such a driver15:28
arkygeek_make sure you have an internet connection before you try to enable it15:28
wallabeewhen i search it says no proprietary driver in use15:28
nikola_ohhhh15:29
nikola_why didn't anyone say that i must have internet to enable?! lol15:29
arkygeek_actually, i am *still having problems here too!15:29
nikola_oh lol15:29
wallabeeenable this in adept??15:29
tobykbluetooth4 doesn't show up in my system tray. does it show up in anyone elses?15:29
toby*kdebluetooth15:30
arkygeek_Mamarok: i go to system>drivers and it shows up, but when i try to activate it, it is not bringing up the download driver15:30
nikola_TOby: bluetooth as in a "wireless" bluetooth or the one that you have USB/15:30
nikola_?15:30
tobyI have a USB bluetooth adapter (worked in Gutsy KDE3)15:30
nikola_Hmm...15:31
nikola_Put in the adapter into USB sticking thing (  i dunno how it's called on english lol) and restart system with it in15:32
tobynikola_: Socket?15:32
nikola_EIther that, or wait for the next Kubuntu release.15:32
toby:D15:32
nikola_toby: lol yea15:32
tobyI thought it was something to do with the system tray perhaps. Running it from konsole generates no errors15:33
tobyI just can't get to the GUI15:33
nikola_I can't either... :(15:33
tobyOh, well that's reassuring - thanks for confirming that15:34
nikola_lol, no problem :P15:34
tobyI'll check in proposed updates for it...15:34
nikola_toby: I use the wireless one15:34
Mamarokarkygeek_: you talk about wich driver?15:34
* arkygeek_ reports that after restarting his system, ensuring he had internet connectivity, and only then activating the restricted driver did it download and install...15:34
arkygeek_Mamarok: ati15:34
arkygeek_for radeon x300se15:34
Mamarokok15:35
Mamarokarkygeek_: so it works now?15:35
arkygeek_dont know yet.15:35
nikola_lol15:35
arkygeek_Mamarok: ok, this happened last time as well.... kmix fatal error sigabrt15:35
Mamarokstrange15:36
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Mamarokarkygeek_: if you haven't started X yet, no wonder btw, kmix is a gui tool15:37
arkygeek_i *have started x   i am in kde15:37
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nikola_Anyone know how i can install Unetbootin in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? :O15:37
arkygeek_Mamarok: http://rafb.net/p/EZGjDW55.html15:38
* arkygeek_ is rebooting to see if the new restricted driver works15:39
Mamarokarkygeek_: this backtrace is useless, you haven't installed the -dbg packages15:39
arkygeek_sorry. it was the best i had.  i wan't anticipating it15:40
arkygeek_on the plus side, kdm_greet hasn't locked up this time :P15:40
knusperfroschis there a gpgsm/kleopatra howto for 8.10? can't figure out how to import a crl15:42
nikola_This KDE is better... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_315:42
nikola_but i can't wait for KDE 5 :P15:43
knusperfroschnikola_: in the meantime figure out how to import a crl on 8.10 and encrypt a message.15:43
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Mamaroknikola_: you might have to wait a very long time I'd say :)15:44
nikola_Oh, ok.15:44
nikola_:D15:44
nikola_Wat is CRL btw?15:45
nikola_And, to encrypt a message in Kubuntu 8.10, you must use encrypting software :P15:46
faileasnikola_: download the unetbootin deb for *bubtu, run it with gdebi, and reboot15:46
nikola_faileas: THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! :)15:47
arkygeek_gurrrfffff\15:52
arkygeek_so i added the repos for ooo3 and did a dist-upgrade.  ooo3 installed.  but it won't run15:52
arkygeek_crashes everytime15:52
* arkygeek_ wonders wt* is going on15:52
nikola_lol15:53
nikola_hmm...15:53
arkygeek_i am also getting corruption in the graphics15:53
nikola_This new Kubuntu is messed up...15:54
nikola_That is why im waiting for KDE 56 :D15:55
Nekuhi im having a problem with k3b it keeps saying Cd record has no permission to open device can anyone help15:55
nikola_Neku: we all do...15:55
faileasNeku: kill any other k3b or burning app thats open15:55
faileasincluding the one you are on now15:55
macjason0607hey .. there any app that can read a hfs volume ?15:56
Nekuits on a diff pc15:56
rarfxel cursor de mi mouse brinca a las esquias de la pantalla ¿...? alguien sabe como corregir este problema? ....15:57
nikola_Rarfx: i don't speak chinese...15:57
JontheEchidna!es | rarfx15:57
ubotturarfx: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:58
rarfxok..15:58
Nekufaileas i think that was a lame attempt at a joke one u would like to post on bas but cant as im not that retarded the problems on a different pc so i dont think if i quit irc it would make that much of a difference.......15:58
nikola_Neku, don't insult anyone.15:59
moepmanhow do i install grub on a kubuntu 8.10 system using lvm, as the installe used lilo which is ugly15:59
nikola_Second, he tried to help ,and three, if we knew how to fix it, we would respond!15:59
Nekunikola_. he tried to insult my intelligence16:00
bazhangNeku, he was referring to a burning app, not irc16:00
dwidmannmoepman: sudo apt-get install grub ... would be a good start16:00
nikola_He tried to insult what?16:00
Nekumeh16:01
moepmandwidmann: sudo grub-install /dev/sda : /dev/mapper/laptop-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.16:01
faileasneku: i was serious. i had the same issue before. i had another app having control of the burner16:03
dwidmannmoepman: hmm, wonder if this is necessary: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID16:03
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janorcutt<moepman>: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID16:03
dwidmannjanorcutt: I win16:03
nikola_Neku: lol16:04
janorcuttlol16:04
* faileas rollseyes16:04
faileaspeople need to learn to read ;p16:04
nikola_lolol16:04
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: will you ship keep-kde4 with 4.2?16:04
nikola_i don't know what k3b has got to do with intell gence (is that a intel series? :O)16:05
faileasnikola_: he for some reason thought i told him to close irc, when i said k3b, including the current session of it ;p16:07
ddgoosecmake cracks me up with it's -> [111%] Built target pofiles16:07
ddgoose111% ??16:07
nikola_faileas: oh lol16:07
dwidmannddgoose: guess it does an extra extra special job :P16:08
janorcuttit goes that extra 11%16:08
nikola_What did the sea say to me? Nothing, it just waves.16:10
moepmandwidmann: janorcutt: doesnt help me in any way16:12
geniimacjason0607: hfsutils and hfsplus. After install you need kernel driver loaded as well. Either hfs or hfsplus depending on the fs type you are trying to read.16:14
mirko_hello everyone... is the default kde on intrepid number 4?16:16
nikola_mirko: are you from Serbia?16:16
bazhangmirko_, yes16:17
geniimirko_: Yes16:17
mirko_nikola_ no I ain't... I'm from italy... why?16:17
nikola_mirko_: oh, well, your nickname is Serbian name :D16:17
mirko_bazhang, genii thank you :) but i remember in hardy it was not so well-working (last time i used it was the day before yesterday) is it better now?16:18
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mirko_nikola_ and do you know what it means?16:19
nikola_Heck no, it's worst for me16:19
nikola_mirko_: no.16:19
mirko_ok... thank you anyway :) PS mirko is my real name, not just a nick :)16:20
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Ahmuckcan kubuntu write to NTFS volumes without damage?16:21
bazhangAhmuck, sure16:22
mirko_Ahmuck of course :)16:22
mirko_do you like the new menus on kde4?16:22
Ahmucki'm not using kde416:23
Ahmucki dumped 8.10 and went back to 8.04.116:23
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nikola_mirko_: ohhhhh16:23
nikola_Kubuntu 8.10 = pure lame stuff, Kubuntu 9.04 = pure ownage...16:24
mirko_Ahmuck why? I did it too because of my modem which is hard to get working but we solved the problem and here i am on intrepid :) (gnome anyway)16:24
mirko_don't know what lame means, don't know what ownage means :)16:25
Ahmuck8.10 was to slow for my computer.  all the composting i suppose.  i went to ubuntu, but ubuntu was a foriegn animal to me, so i regressed16:25
Ahmucki'm on a 2.xGhz, with 3G ram16:26
faileasnikola_: KDE 4 needs a little work ;p16:26
Ahmuck128mb video16:26
faileaslol16:26
* faileas runs it on a laptop with a built in graphics card16:26
nikola_:O16:26
nikola_lol16:26
faileasi also run it on a laptop with a 16 mb discrete and it works acceptably16:27
mirko_i see16:27
Ahmuck*shrugs*, all i know is it worked horribly for me16:27
faileasAhmuck: in my case a bog standard r61 (centreno 2 platform, love those cause they tend to work decently)16:28
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nikola_bog?16:28
faileasonly major issue i have is i don't think ethernet uses16:28
nikola_Bog means god in Serbian :I16:28
nikola_:O16:29
faileasnikola_: bog standard = very common16:29
faileas*works16:29
nikola_:O16:29
faileas(english isn't my native language, nor do i think in it ;p)16:29
tonghi there , has anyone able to get diffirent wall papers for different desktop for kde4.1?16:32
pteague_workhow do i get kwallet to launch on start up?  i've had it loaded a number of times when i've logged out & it's not keeping it open, even though it loads all my other programs i last had open16:34
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nikola_Can anyy16:42
nikola_oops lol16:42
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sushiX if i play music with Music Player(amarok) i get sound  but with VLC dont16:51
spawn57which version of vlc is it?16:54
Mamarokspawn57: vlc --version16:54
spawn57sushiX: you probably dont' have the right settings, click tools -> preferences, -> audio and under output select ALSA16:56
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estresjoin /#kubuntu-es16:57
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bopfermanHello, I am running 8.10 and a VM of 9.04 and trying to get a weather widget working in either one.  I have wanted a weather widget for some time and done some research but couldnt get anything working.  any ideas?16:59
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BluesKajbopferman, yeah i've encountered similar probs with other widgets listed in the "Add Widgets" list that are unknown , obviously not configged for 8.10 kde417:04
bopfermanI understand, i hope there is a good weather widget by the time 4.2 is released.17:08
BluesKajBBL17:09
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palbuddyhelp please! is there anyone who knows how I can check my external hard drive for errors?17:20
faileaspalbuddy: what file system?17:21
palbuddyfat3217:21
nikola_O.o17:21
palbuddyor old windows fat something17:21
nikola_Ur kidding?17:21
nikola_THis is LInux...17:21
palbuddyyeah, I had the external HD for windows stuff nd just added to my linux computer17:22
faileasi think fsck might handle that17:22
palbuddyokay what would I type in terminal?17:22
palbuddythe problem also is it's labelled 'EXTERNAL HD' and I don't know how to make the space in terminal17:22
faileastry man dosfsck17:22
faileasyou probably can use tab complete17:23
faileasor check the mountpoint17:23
palbuddyokay one sec here17:24
faileaspalbuddy: cd /media/ then ls . paste the output in a pastebin17:24
palbuddyokay one sec17:24
desuactually, "sudo fdisk -l" might be a better idea to find out what device it is17:26
palbuddyokay now I'm in the external hard drive menu17:27
palbuddyhow do I check for errors using dosfsck17:27
desu"sudo fsck <device>"17:28
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palbuddyso like 'sudo fsck /media/EXTERNAL HD$'?17:30
palbuddywhich doesn't work17:30
palbuddyhmm17:30
schmidtmpalbuddy: no something like sudo fsck /dev/sdX17:32
palbuddyokay17:32
palbuddyokay it says 'e2fsck: need terminal for interactive repairs'17:33
Mamarokdesu: isn't it better not to run fsck on a mounted device?17:33
palbuddyit is mounty17:33
palbuddysorry17:34
palbuddyhah17:34
palbuddyit is mounted17:34
Mamarokbut rather do it like fsck /dev/sd* ?17:34
desuMamarok: fsck should not be run on mounted devices.... unless they're mounted read-only... which i doubt is the case ehre17:34
palbuddyokay unmounting external HD17:34
desuyeah, fsck /dev/sd??17:34
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Mamarokdesu: that's what I say :)17:35
desupalbuddy: it'd help us help you if you could paste the ouput of "sudo fdisk -l" to rafb.net/paste17:35
palbuddyokay I will17:35
desuMamarok: and i never said otherwise :P17:35
palbuddythanks for all your help!17:35
palbuddyhttp://rafb.net/p/KOgrMJ58.html17:37
palbuddyit's a 1 Terabyte external hard drive17:37
palbuddyrunning fsck17:39
palbuddyokay it's asking me this...'FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?'17:42
palbuddyuhh I don't know?!17:42
palbuddyokay well I see you guys are busy17:46
master_how can i set automatic updates?  It's annoying having to do them every day..17:46
palbuddyI'll be around in the background17:46
Mamarokpalbuddy: what do you want to do with this drive?17:47
Mamarokkeep it as FAT or install as ext3?17:47
* Mamarok strongly suggest ext317:47
palbuddywell if I could keep my data ext3 would be great17:47
palbuddyI already have 900 gig installed on here, and it would be a pain in the butt to reinstall everything17:48
Mamarokhm, that can't work unfortuantely, unless there is some miracle tool to convert fat to ext3 without wiping the disk17:48
palbuddyokay well here is the thing17:48
palbuddyI hear some clicking noise I'm not used to on the hard drive, the HD is less then a year old!17:49
palbuddyI just want to see if it will last another year17:49
Mamarokpalbuddy: no idea, did you google for that particular brand?17:49
palbuddyyeah, I hve17:49
palbuddyhave17:49
Mamarokpalbuddy: why didn't you format it as ntfs? would have been a better choice for such a big disk than fat3217:50
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palbuddywell I was transferring from a mac to the linux thing that I'm using right here17:51
Mamarokah, I see17:51
palbuddymac doesn't have a good format to transfer between them two17:51
palbuddyso I just wanted to see if the drive will last that's all17:52
Mamarokpalbuddy: can it be tested with SMART?17:52
palbuddyokay how do I do that?17:53
palbuddyit's a segate HD btw17:53
Mamarokpalbuddy: you need to install smartmontools first17:54
palbuddyokay one sec17:54
palbuddyuhhh sudo apt-get smartmontools?17:56
Mamaroksudo apt-get install smartmontools17:57
palbuddyokay17:57
Mamarokpalbuddy: what type of HD, SCSI, IDE, SATA?17:57
palbuddyexternal sata17:58
palbuddysorry usb sata I would assume17:58
djklmnopi cant get my damn wifi working on my msi wind17:58
palbuddyit's a 1-Tb external USB HD17:58
djklmnopstupid drivers17:58
Mamarokpalbuddy: then type smartctl -H /dev/sdb (IIRC this was that particular disk)18:00
palbuddyok!18:00
palbuddysmart health status ok18:00
Mamarokgreat, so it's unlikely you will have problems in the near future18:01
Mamarokpalbuddy: sometimes the physical parts can make noises you don't have in the beginning18:01
palbuddyokay great! thanks, I'm actually a humanitarian in Romania, and ummm a new hard drive would be crazy expensive!18:02
palbuddyall my project work is thankfully backed up18:02
Mamarokpalbuddy: good thing, backup often18:02
* Mamarok runs rsync every day as a cron job18:03
palbuddywhere are the enviromental settings under kde?  I can't seem to find it! I don't want to turn off my HD18:03
SiVA_hi18:08
SiVA_I enabled the nvidia driver, and now when I alt-tab KDE uses some kind of vista-like rip off for toggling between open applications18:09
SiVA_anyway, I think it sucks because you can't tell what's before or after the current window18:09
SiVA_so how do I tell KDE to go back to the original type of alt-tab dialog?18:09
mini-manSiVA_: systemsettings18:10
mini-mansomewhere in the Desktop part is an option for specifying which effect is for what, switching windows, desktops, etc.18:11
mini-manI personally use Box switch, I also hate that "flip switch" crap :)18:11
SiVA_right.. yea, box switch is really nice.. and fast too18:12
SiVA_the flip switch would work alot better if you could see what windows are stacked to the left and right... as it is now, it's really useless18:12
mini-manplus it reminds me of vista.18:12
* mini-man gags18:12
SiVA_hrm.. I'm just realizing now, that all of the switchers were turned on, which really caused my initial annoyance with it18:14
SiVA_strange that alll three would be checked by default18:14
SiVA_it was all one big blur... hah18:14
mini-manyeah that happened to me too :\18:15
SiVA_I'm using the cover and box switch combo... works out good!18:15
mini-man:)18:16
mini-mannow if I could figure out why Kate refuses to remember my plugins settings... blarg18:16
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francisc1701hi, everyone! this is the fifth time in a row that I resume from hibernation and the screen isn't locked -- has anyone else had this issue? (kde3)18:23
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francisc1701nobody? pleeeease?18:31
Mamarokfrancisc1701: patience!18:32
francisc1701i know, i know....18:32
wesley__firefox really s*cks with some sites18:33
Mamarokfrancisc1701: depends on many factors, laptop acpi version, kde3 version, there have been many :)18:33
Mamarokfrancisc1701: also, it's evening in Europe and many *ubuntu folks are currently busy with UDS at Googleplex18:34
francisc1701ok18:35
francisc1701but what does the acpi version have to do with locking the screen? should it not be something in /etc/acpi/resume.d/ ?18:39
Reptilegoogle earth 4.3 is loading but I can't see the globe18:42
Reptileanyone ?18:42
robert__how can i upgrade from hardy to intrepid?18:43
ReptileSomebody talked about it earlier but I didnt take a notice then18:43
robert__i just need the newest alsa18:44
Mamarokrobert__: you must change your sources.list18:46
Mamarokrobert__: replace every occurence of "hardy" with "intrepid"18:47
robert__thats scary18:47
Mamarokthen do apt-get update18:47
Mamaroksudo actually18:47
Mamarokthen sudo apt-get upgrade18:49
Mamarokrobert__: else, did you try to activate the backports? maybe there's a newer alsa (even if I doupt that18:49
Mamarokrobert__: also, if you are currently using KDE3 you will be changed to kde4, so think well before doing that upgrade18:50
robert__well, ima go break mah system.. see ya in a few.. hopefully..18:50
user6hello....18:51
Mamarokhi18:51
user6I've installed kubuntu on old 300 mhz machine, it works so fine, but my usb key wasn't recognized....18:52
suleymanselamlar18:52
user6(hadrware trouble or driver)18:52
user6??18:52
pavatiHello all.18:52
Mamarokuser6: you mean it's not mounted automatically?18:53
suleymantürkçe bilen var mı ?18:53
Mamarok!tr | suleyman18:53
ubottusuleyman: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.18:53
user6Mamarok: exactly...18:53
suleymanok18:53
user6Mamarok: kubuntu version 7.1018:54
Mamarokuser6: what version of Kubuntu do you use?18:54
Mamarokuser6: can't remember how this worked back then, minute18:55
user6Mamarok: upgrade to 8.04 will solve the problem?18:56
Mamarokuser6: you don't need to upgrade for just on usb key, no18:56
Mamarok*one18:57
Mamarokuser6: I guess your usb key is vat formatted?18:57
user6Mamarok: i think yes19:01
user6Mamarok: it comes from xp software19:02
user6ehmm... xp machine19:02
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sebastianis there a channel for ubuntu eee?19:05
sebastianis there a channel for ubuntu eee?19:05
sebastianis there a channel for ubuntu eee?19:08
sebastianhi i am using ubuntu eee, and my wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted19:11
djklmnophey19:11
djklmnopim on an eee too19:11
djklmnopworks for me19:11
djklmnoplet me find you a link, just follow the scripts19:12
pisecxhi. i have ubuntu. installed kde with kubuntu-desktop and kde packages. in ubuntu I used proprietary manager to install drivers for wifi, everything is works excellent. does kde use the same manager or not? I couldn't see my network in the list19:17
abdoallo19:18
Mamarokuser6: still here?19:21
rvsgrouphello19:22
Mamarokuser6: sry, just had a netsplit19:23
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MamarokRamblurr: you here ? :)19:26
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sebastianwho helped me with my wireless for ubuntu eee?19:31
djklmnop_me19:31
djklmnop_whattap19:31
sebastianwell it still dont work hehe19:32
djklmnop_weird19:32
sebastiannow it just keeps grey not even 1 green19:32
djklmnop_uninstall ubuntu and install the full version19:32
djklmnop_:D19:32
sebastiancan u give me the link to the info u showed me?19:32
djklmnop_sure19:32
djklmnop_http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly19:32
sebastiani had it, but it had no driver for my  lan or wireless19:32
sebastianthx :)19:32
sebastianno i cant even start my wireless :O19:34
sebastianany way to roll this back?19:34
djklmnop_no idea19:36
djklmnop_im new to ubuntu too19:36
sebastianok19:38
sebastiani need to restart19:38
sebastianthx for the help anyway19:39
sebastiancya :)19:39
francisc1701can I get rid of dolphin without breaking anything?19:41
Mamarokfrancisc1701: why would you do that?19:42
francisc1701well, I prefer konqueror as my file manager and I don't want dolphin to open every cd/dvd I insert19:44
Mamarokfrancisc1701: are you using kde4?19:45
francisc1701kde319:45
Mamarokok, then just uninstall it, you can't in kde4 though19:45
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Mamarokin KDE4 dolphin is used by konqueror for the file managing part19:46
francisc1701shiny19:46
Mamarokfrancisc1701: or just try to get used to, it will be default in KDE4 :)19:46
* Mamarok loves Dolphin19:46
* francisc1701 loves Konqueror :)19:47
francisc1701but am I going to use kde4? not as long as I can use kde319:47
KovertCan some one tell me with the new KDE and RSSNOW I receive no feeds19:51
francisc1701thank you, Mamarok, dolphin is gone and konqueror took over.19:54
Mamarokfrancisc1701: you're welcome :)19:54
KovertCan some one tell me with the new KDE and RSSNOW why I receive no feeds19:57
Kovertis any one getting feeds?19:57
wesley__You mean that plasmoid ?20:00
bibigonРебята,всем привет!20:02
bibigonУ меня такой вопрос20:02
Mamarok!ru | bibigon20:03
ubottubibigon: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:03
guest__hello room, question, if my harddrive is already partitioned, would it affect the two operating systems if I partitioned it again, without reinstalling them???20:03
Mamarokguest__: you can resize partitions without wiping them, yes20:04
Mamarokif there is still space left20:05
Kovertwesley__: Yes20:05
BlueEagleguest__: However some operating system do not use unique identifiers for the partitions and if you insert a pertition in front of one it might cause confusion.20:05
KozerisI have 1 hdd with WinXp, i bought one more for [k]ubuntu, so how install it for that i  can choose which OS load, and if i want i could disconnect ubuntu, and then no menu appear and xp loads20:05
Kozerisits somehting to  configure linux disk, for that opop up table with choose, and if no that hdd then no table for OS20:05
Kozeris<boriscy> I have installed ubuntu server20:05
guest__Mamarok: yes there is, thank you20:05
wesley__You can use akregator20:05
guest__BlueEagle: I was thinking of partitioning my xp portion of the harddrive20:06
BlueEagleKozeris: I would assume you set the boot order to linux-disk, windows-disk and have grub installed on the linux disk. If you disconnect it the pc should failover to the windows disk and read windows' boot loader there.20:07
BlueEagleguest__: If you put a partition infront of windows XP then it will definetly not be happy,20:07
BlueEagleguest__: However if you insert a partition between your windows partition and linux partition then grub will most likely not be happy either.20:08
guest__ok partitioning aside, I have another question, which is the most STABLE updated release of kubuntu out there that is working fine that I can upgrade from dapper-drake??20:08
BlueEagleguest__: But that's just a matter of changing the grub config.20:08
BlueEagle...and re-installing it to the mbr I guess.20:08
Kovertwesley__: buT i WANT TO USE THE PLKAZMOID20:09
guest__BlueEagle: thanks, I'll probably just reinstall windows xp20:09
Kovertsorry caps20:09
Kovertplazmoid20:09
Mamarokguest__: try Hardy20:09
guest__everyone agrees that Hardy is the next best thing?? :)20:10
pavatiYes20:11
guest__Thanks ppl, you've all been helpful!! :-D20:12
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BlueEagleguest__: Well it might work as long as the partition in front of XP isn't ntfs or fat32. But windows 9x had to write data to the very first partition iirc.20:13
wesley__is raptor menu not in kde 4.2?20:16
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gkffjckis there a way to change the color theme and appearance of kde3 applications from inside of kde4? or at all, in 8.10?20:21
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ThetetsuHello, I accidentally deleted the drivers for my video card and now when20:22
Thetetsu I turn on the pc ubuntu part in dos mode type of windows, what should I do? (sto20:22
Thetetsu chatting with the version of cd) Thanks20:22
val_hi all. i have open avant and cairo together and i cant close or hide them?20:22
val_is anyway i can close cairo dock avant toolbar or the bottom toolbar?20:24
val_or just hide them20:24
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francisc1701isn't this weird? 4390 MB in various files written on a DVD-R using an lg hl-dt-st dvdram GSA-T20L drive. the first ~250 MB were written at 2x; ~250 - ~1800 MB - 4x; ~1800 - ~3500 MB - 6.10x; ~3500 - end - 8.10x20:37
francisc1701hope that makes sense20:37
arrananyone know of a tool that analyzes the disk and tells you what dir/files is taking up space?20:41
Mamarokarran: filelight, with a graphical display20:42
arranthanks20:43
jedixhey20:44
jedixI have an issue with the 4.2 alpha that I think is a package issue..20:44
jedixkwin dies saying that the decoration plugin is corrupt20:44
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jedixI mean 4.2 beta20:46
Mamarokjedix: welcome to beta hell :)20:46
Mamarokjedix: try kde-nightly, it's less buggy20:47
jedixMamarok: have an apt for that?20:47
jedixa source listing20:47
jedixI should not have gone to beta on this computer.20:51
jedixMamarok: ping?20:52
ubuntu_vxcv20:53
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Mamarokjedix: sry, afk21:02
Mamarokjedix: there is a repository you need, moment21:02
Mamarokjedix: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu/ intrepid main21:04
* Mamarok is off to bed, working tomorrow21:05
jedixMamarok: thanks, I'll try that.21:06
admin__hi there21:16
admin__i need some help with irc server21:16
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cockneysean??21:17
cockneyseanhello?21:17
BluesKajfinally back to normal ...I hope21:20
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KransacSalut21:30
Boumouhaha21:34
BouKFind says: "Ready. One file found"21:34
Boudisplaying a blank list21:34
Bou=)21:34
Kovertany one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?21:43
drifanyone has experience with xmove (pseudo X)?21:43
roganwww.blogpirate.org21:47
AizawaHow do I restore defaults on the desktop settings?21:54
AizawaSpecifically the color settings21:54
DeviantPeerhi all.22:00
Kransachi22:00
DeviantPeerI've been trying to install the ati binary drivers on my laptop (with kubuntu intrepid)22:00
DeviantPeerbut I'm having a bit of a problem... The aticonfig segfaults22:00
Deincan anyone tell me where could I find kde3.5 to download?22:01
macjason0607will this work http://paste.ubuntu.com/83168/ < ---22:03
phix:\22:15
phixAny one here?22:15
phixwhere is alsaconf? it doesn't seem to be in alsa-util or alsa-base22:16
faicheleUse the package search on debian.org22:17
faicheleYou can search by filename there.22:17
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phixfaichele: it comes in alsa-util in debian22:17
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jimmybondoI am having an issue after upgrading using kubuntu-experimental ppa with kmail crashing. bug filed at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177294 any ideas?22:26
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edi_99Hi guys, what's the apt command that installs smthng so that applets and other similar stuff work?22:29
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trappistedi_99: if you mean java applets...22:30
trappist!java22:30
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper22:30
trappistif by similar stuff you mean flash...22:30
trappist!flash22:30
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash22:30
phixhmmm22:33
phixstill don't have a working sound card :\22:34
phixany one know how to get a Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio working?22:34
crimsunplease run the http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh script.22:35
Nick_Meisterhello guys i am trying to run blender but i find myself unable to use the alt key22:36
Nick_Meisterits like its been reserved by the os22:36
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Kovertany one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?22:39
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phixcrimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3642b6198aebb97543fbfa7b7160290b7be426a522:42
Nick_Meisterok it seems alt +click == move window22:42
Nick_Meisterbut i cant figure out how to change that to something else22:42
Nick_Meisterin the keyboard settings it says22:42
phixNick_Meister: alt+left mouse drag22:42
Nick_Meisterthat its nothin22:42
Nick_Meisterphix, how do i turn that off?22:42
Nick_Meisterits intefering with my blender22:43
Nick_Meisterlol22:43
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phixblender?22:43
Nick_Meisterthe 3d software22:43
Nick_Meisteralt + drag == rotate22:43
phixNick_Meister: I don;t know, it is normal behaviour22:43
Eddie_AWhi, my root part is full, if I use a livecd to resize it will I be ok?22:43
Nick_Meisterphix,  i know its normal i want to get rid of it22:44
phixNick_Meister: oh, not sure sorry22:44
Nick_Meister:(22:44
phixNick_Meister: :( :(22:46
TheTetsumy ubuntu I do not longer see the desktop and restart when I am starting as the dos mode of windows that do?22:47
Nick_Meisterphix, i found it thanks anyways22:48
TheTetsuhelp me22:49
TheTetsumy kubuntu I do not longer see the desktop and restart when I am starting as the dos mode of windows that do?22:49
KovertTheTetsu: If I understood your question22:50
Kovertany one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?22:50
phixcrimsun: http://rafb.net/p/ijLNl197.html22:50
crimsunphix: thanks, looking in a sec22:50
|COM|Styxhai22:50
|COM|Styxim having trouble with httpd22:50
|COM|Styxits giving me 2.2kb of nulls for a file when i try to dl it22:51
Kovert? installed ssh?22:51
phixthnx crimsun :D22:51
|COM|Styxme?22:51
Kovertyah22:51
|COM|Styxno22:51
Kovert!ssh22:51
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/22:52
|COM|Styxits only on the other comp22:52
|COM|Styxwait can i automatically get files with ssh?22:52
Kovertif you are running ssh then the client side can use ir22:52
|COM|Styxi mean without installing a server22:52
Kovertyou can use sftp22:53
Kovert!sftp22:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sftp22:53
|COM|Styxis there a server with kubuntu?22:53
Kovertor !wscp22:53
Kovertapache22:53
Kovertany one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?22:54
rlovejoyHey - quick question, maybe someone can help?  How do I set a static IP using Intrepid (Kubuntu)?22:54
crimsunphix: ping me if copper (or anyone in #alsa) doesn't resolve it22:54
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bmageorshey has anyone noticed when you login to a tty consol and logout the system still shows you logged in to that tty.22:54
Kovertrlovejoy: click on the green bubble on the lower rioght corner22:55
crimsunphix: I'm in sessions now, so I may not be available for a couple hours22:55
moj0risingrlovejoy: try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html22:55
phixcrimsun: ok, that is fine :) Thank you for your interest so far22:55
Kovertor click on the green bubble22:55
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rlovejoyyeah, i did that, and set up a new connection... it didn't change anything.  I'll try that link - thanks.22:55
moj0risingnot sure what you mean by a new connection22:55
PSiL0!ktorrent22:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent22:56
moj0risingyou need to edit that network script to get static ip22:56
moj0risingback-up the old one first22:56
bmageorsthis bug seems to be in all22:57
rlovejoyclicked on the green globe and an option under that is New Connection --> eth022:58
rlovejoymoj0 - then reboot, or ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0?22:59
Kovertyup22:59
rlovejoysry - i'll just read that link u gave me22:59
bmageorshey has anyone noticed when you login to a tty consol and logout the system still shows you logged in to that tty. how do you fix this bug?..23:04
jhutchins_wkbmageors: WHere are you seeing that you're still logged in?23:10
bmageorsin a terminal using the finger or 'w' command23:10
bmageorsalso the command 'uptime' show the same info23:11
jhutchins_wkbmageors: Well, clearly if you're logged in to issue the command... are you saying you still see an extra session?23:12
bmageorsyes. showing using that tty in idle23:12
jhutchins_wkHm, mine clears (but I'm on a different distro).23:13
bmageorsso like if I do a cotrol,alt,f1 use that tty and logout aqnd go back in x using a terminal you can see the user is still logged in23:14
bmageorshmmm ok... hahah I've notice this is freespire too23:14
bmageorsand 8.1023:15
bmageorsthanks for the reply jhutchins_wk23:16
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knishahaha23:20
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nysinIs there a handy place to find (without either making a VM or screwing around with a spare computer) the initial Kubuntu 8.10 64-bit installed package list?23:24
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omerLi vir kesekê kurd heye?23:32
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fabiohi may I ask about kde4.2-beta123:43
fabiostrigi always not running in system setting23:44
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