[00:00] <ubuntu__> Yeah, but all of those things run just fine on both kde and gnome.
[00:00] <dr_willis> So they are portable then :)
[00:00] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: All KDE programs run in Gnome
[00:00] <moonsaber> mmm
[00:00] <dr_willis> portable normally applys to 'other os' not desktops.
[00:00] <ubuntu__> Well I was talking about desktops.
[00:00] <ubuntu__> OPs are a diffrent story.
[00:00] <ubuntu__> *OS
[00:01] <keres> what is the syntax to delete a file?
[00:01] <keres> n00b question i know
[00:01] <ubuntu__> I can put up witn WINE's crap myself, I don't need no stinking wondows.
[00:01] <dr_willis> portable as a term  for 'desktops' normally dosetn get used..  of coruse the freedesktop.org stuff is working on standardizing  a lot of things.. so its geting to be a non issue
[00:01] <DaSkreech> keres: rm file
[00:01] <Ashly> Is there a apt-get package for pkg_config?
[00:01] <ubuntu__> I can run all of... 1 programs with it.  Its a really nice one though.
[00:01] <dr_willis> its been ages since ive seen a kde app in gnome, or gnome app in kde issue.
[00:02] <ubuntu__> So why do we even bother putting a k in every possible place?
[00:02] <dr_willis> If the app is using the qt/kde libs then its a KDE app. YOu can name them whatever you want.
[00:02] <ubuntu__> Have I become distracted from the issue I came here with?
[00:02] <dr_willis> why does the name matter.
[00:02]  * dr_willis has totally frogotten the original issue
[00:02] <LjL> !info pkg-config | Ashly
[00:02] <ubuntu__> Crap, I have.  All fine for me, but the end users won't be happy with a machine that won't boot.
[00:03] <keres> it seems i need libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0 for something
[00:03]  * dr_willis would like to see more standarized names for similer kde/gnome apps.. ie : kedit gedit,  ksudo gsudo, ect...
[00:03] <keres> DaSkreech: which package should i install to get that?
[00:03] <ubuntu__> Is there a way for me to download an executable to install kubuntu from inside the live thing?
[00:03]  * genii gkdesudos dr_willis
[00:03]  * dr_willis kdesu's genii 
[00:03] <ubuntu__> I have one, but I don't really trust it's integrity.
[00:04] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Can't you do that?
[00:04] <genii> dr_willis:  :)
[00:04] <Ashly> Thanks LjL
[00:05]  * dr_willis uses sux
[00:05] <DaSkreech> keres: What do you need it for?
[00:05] <oscarinabox> SCREECHS
[00:05] <oscarinabox> WERES MAH ISNTRUCTIONS
[00:06] <DaSkreech> !grub
[00:06]  * dr_willis puts oscarinabox  on ignore
[00:06] <oscarinabox> :? haha
[00:06] <keres> DaSkreech: GTK Radiant
[00:07] <DaSkreech> !find libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0
[00:07] <genii> Interesting. The bot just used to say how many it found
[00:07] <DaSkreech> The bot sucks
[00:07] <ubuntu__> Okay.  So, nobody knows what I should do about the installer/partitioner freezeing
[00:08] <ubuntu__> ?
[00:08] <dr_willis> try a new hd?  try formating it totally/badblock/checking, try alternative cd...
[00:08] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Did it have any errors from the command line?
[00:08] <dr_willis> unplug ide hd, and try just sata drive installed also..
[00:09] <DaSkreech> !info libgtkglext1
[00:09] <DaSkreech> keres: ^^^^
[00:09] <keres> yes?
[00:09] <keres> how do i install this package?
[00:09] <ubuntu__> So I should go get the IDE drive, hook that up, and it'll prolly work?
[00:10] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  its worth trying.
[00:10] <DaSkreech> keres: Want the painful GUI way or the painful CLI way ?
[00:10] <keres> which is easiest?
[00:10] <DaSkreech> For me? The CLI way :)
[00:10] <ubuntu__> I might be tempted to just boot it as faildows...
[00:11] <DaSkreech> keres:
[00:11] <keres> would sudo apt-get libgtkglext1 work?
[00:11] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install libgtkglext1
[00:11] <ubuntu__> Thanks.  :)  If I knew you'd all be this helpful, I woulda come and whined about all of the other small problems in the distro.
[00:12] <stefano> ciao a tutti
[00:13] <bob_> DaSkreech: worked =)
[00:13] <DaSkreech> bob_: of course
[00:13] <bob_> DaSkreech: ready for another one ?
[00:14] <bob_> DaSkreech: and thanks for the help btw
[00:14] <keres> DaSkreech: can you change the theme of a gtk application to KDE themed?
[00:14] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: If you were evil you could use parted
[00:14] <DaSkreech> keres: If you like blood and sweat
[00:14] <DaSkreech> bob_: Go
[00:14] <ubuntu__> I did not know that this failed to close when I 'x'ed it out.
[00:15] <bob_> DaSkreech: Trying to use K3B - on startup it says it doesn't detect a burner - i have an external one hooked up via USB
[00:15] <ubuntu__> I'm gonna try one more time-this time I was more explicit in my partitioning instructions.
[00:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: ok :0
[00:15] <ubuntu__> in all likleyhood I'm about time out due to the system freezing.  WIsh me luck.
[00:16] <DaSkreech> bob_: Yeah that's outta my knowldege base I know that I've seeen it solved in here before
[00:16] <ubuntu__> I hear a beep
[00:17] <ubuntu__> Okay, I'll report as much as I can as it attempts to install, up to the point where it freezes.
[00:17] <bob_> no biggie, thanks man
[00:17] <ubuntu__> it'll be like listening to a black box, except LIVE :)
[00:17] <ganymede> hi, i'd like to install cmake 2.6.2. i added this line to sources.list: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe" and updated and upgraded and now cmake --version returns "cmake version 2.6-patch 2" that isn't cmake 2.6.2, right?
[00:17] <ubuntu__> Starting up
[00:17] <ubuntu__> detecting file systems
[00:18] <ubuntu__> creating ext3 file system for foo at bar
[00:18] <bob_> probably wouldn't burn an .uif image anyways
[00:18] <ubuntu__> this is where it usually crashes & burns
[00:18] <DaSkreech> bob_: You need anextension for that
[00:18] <kyle__> omg........my wireless doesn't work at all
[00:18] <DaSkreech> booom
[00:18] <ubuntu__> Wireless
[00:18] <dr_willis> if its crashing at formating the hard drive... then it REALLY sounds like a Hard drive failure issue
[00:18] <ubuntu__> that took me a while to figure out
[00:18] <ubuntu__> get the driver from the manufacturer
[00:19] <bob_> DaSkreech: booom is the extension?
[00:19] <kyle__> how?
[00:19] <ubuntu__> and find a wrapper
[00:19] <ubuntu__> then run the installer for the driver in WINE
[00:19] <DaSkreech> bob_: No that's ubuntu__ crashing and burning
[00:19] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: that depends on the wireless that kyle__
[00:19] <DaSkreech> has
[00:19] <dr_willis> best to research the wireless chipset you have on the forums...   and see how  to set ig up
[00:19] <ubuntu__> WHat kinda card is it?
[00:19] <ubuntu__> Netgear?
[00:19] <kyle__> um
[00:20] <kyle__> broadcom
[00:20] <ubuntu__> Broadcom?  Never herd of it.
[00:20] <dr_willis> broadcom - narrows it down a little....
[00:20] <ubuntu__> Ohh, farther then usual, 27%.
[00:20] <dr_willis> but not much. :)
[00:20] <dr_willis> !wireless
[00:20] <kyle__> airforce one
[00:20] <ubuntu__> Looks like my blind manual editing of peramiters paid off.
[00:20] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[00:20] <ubuntu__> I got an errno 5
[00:21] <kyle__> heres my driver
[00:21] <kyle__>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[00:21] <ubuntu__> claims that theres something wrong with some kinda drive.
[00:21] <ubuntu__> wireless G?
[00:21] <kyle__> yea
[00:21] <ubuntu__> (some kinda drive being the disc drive, it said, not the hard one.)
[00:22] <ubuntu__> With wifi cards, you are ether lucky or down 20 bucks.
[00:22] <kyle__> meaning?
[00:22] <ubuntu__> Hope that the driver the manufacturer made works with the wrapper.
[00:22] <ubuntu__> If not, you can find one who sells one with a linux driver, and buy that.
[00:22] <kyle__> buying isnt an option
[00:23] <ubuntu__> Why?  You could certanly sell that one and buy an older but compatable one.
[00:23] <ubuntu__> You could barter it.
[00:23] <kyle__> so...if i could install a newer/older version of my driver and make kubuntu work with it................i would be all good?
[00:24] <dr_willis> kyle__,  most likely you need to install the b43 tools/package and the fw-cutter tool
[00:24] <kyle__> ok
[00:24] <sergio> alguém fala portugues ?
[00:24] <dr_willis> the bcm/b43 drivers have been updated in 8.10 - My b43XXX cards now work in 8.10
[00:24] <dr_willis> and alli did was let the rextricted-drivers tool install the proper packages
[00:24] <ubuntu__> I'm gonna go plug in the anchent IDE drive.  The trick with IDE is just lining the sides of the ribbon, right?
[00:25] <ryan_> help please. i was trying to install adobe flash using the one i downloaded from their website
[00:25] <dr_willis> ubuntu__,  theres normally a little tab/missing pin also...
[00:25] <sergio> olá ?
[00:25] <dr_willis> ryan_,  why are you installing it that way?
[00:25] <ubuntu__> Oh, right.  Bit it was inside a machine, so it's jumper should be alredy be set to what I want.
[00:25] <kyle__> i tryed to install "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" but it said the package couldnt be found
[00:25] <ryan_> then i issued sudo chmod +x  sudo chmod +x flashplayer-installer
[00:25] <DaSkreech> ryan_: use the one from ubuntu
[00:25] <DaSkreech> !es
[00:25] <ryan_> yes i tried that too
[00:26] <ryan_> daskreech : are you referring to the flashlugin-nonfreee?
[00:26] <ubuntu__> I like how you issue commands, you don't type them.  I'm gonna phrase it like that from now on.
[00:26] <dr_willis> !b43
[00:27] <dr_willis> kyle__,  run  'kdesudo jockey-kde' and use that tool to install the drivers
[00:27] <dr_willis> or launch it from the menus, wheever its at in the menus now
[00:28] <ryan_> the installer from the adobe website and the flashplugin-nonfree seemed to work fine
[00:28] <ubuntu__> Anyone know how I turn on compiz on the live thing?  I always wanted to see the cube thing go.
[00:28] <ryan_> but firefox couldnt still see the flashplugin
[00:28] <dr_willis> I just install kubuntu-restricted-extras and it grabs flash for me.. as for adobe.. I think i get that from the medibuntu repos
[00:28] <dr_willis> I dont want firefox showing pdf's :) so not tried that part.
[00:29] <tarvid> new to kubuntu
[00:29] <tarvid> want to back up some stuff with samba
[00:30] <tarvid> how do I enable sharing
[00:30] <tarvid> dolphin says I must be owner
[00:30] <tarvid> can I run dolp[hin as root?
[00:30] <dr_willis> DONT run it as root.
[00:31] <dr_willis> what are you trying to share?
[00:31] <tarvid> i mounted sda5 and would like to back up /boot and /var/www and a postgresql database
[00:32] <dr_willis> and what does this have to do with samba shares then?  YOu are backing up files to a local drive?
[00:32] <ryan_> yeah
[00:32] <tarvid> I am trying to back up to another Ubuntu box
[00:32]  * dr_willis is missing somthing here then....
[00:33] <tarvid> that has an appropriate dvd burner
[00:33] <dr_willis> You have your data files on /dev/sda5  that you wish to archive?
[00:33] <tarvid> Yes
[00:33] <tarvid> It was the root partition until an upgrade resulted in a kernel panic
[00:34] <dr_willis> so you took the HD from onemachine and plugged it into another machine that has a DVD burner?
[00:34] <tarvid> No the client installed Intrepid again on sda8 and sda9
[00:34] <tarvid> that install boots and runs fine
[00:35] <tarvid> the old install on sda5 does not boot.
[00:35] <dr_willis> SO you have 2 machines.. networked... and you got files on machine 1,  that you want to access from machine 2, ?
[00:35] <tarvid> I am trying to obey the dictum to backup first
[00:35] <tarvid> they have an application apache+postgresql+? that manages a clinic
[00:36] <Nibbler`> helo there, i've upgraded my kde to the 4.2beta, but many stuff are going wring, i would like to revert to the stable one, how can I do that ?
[00:36]  * dr_willis thinks we need to get a Picture drawn Up of the setup...     im confused as to  too many things...
[00:37]  * dr_willis thinks the issue is a 'user' trying to right click/share a system directory.. that would be a big security issue...
[00:38] <tarvid> sda1 windows nt
[00:38] <tarvid> sda2 extended
[00:38] <tarvid> sda5 old kubuntu Intrepid /
[00:38] <tarvid> sda6 swap
[00:38] <tarvid> sda7 home
[00:38] <tarvid> sda8 new kubuntu /
[00:38] <tarvid> sda9 swap
[00:39] <tarvid> this user would very much like to share /
[00:39] <tarvid> it is a temporary measure to backup the files before I make things worse
[00:40] <tarvid> booting sda5 fails but that is the partition which has the ap[plication and data
[00:41] <tarvid> guessing sda5 /boot is corrupt
[00:42] <dr_willis> if you want to share a system directory, instead of a users own directory in their home dir.. You will most likely need to edit the /etc/smb.conf and setup the share manually
[00:42] <dr_willis> and of course install the samba server
[00:43] <cuznt> my linksys router did not work out of the box kde i could not bring up its page either
[00:43] <tarvid> makes sense
[00:43] <dr_willis> a user is not going to be able to 'right click and share'   a system dir.  im not even sure running a file server as root would allow it either
[00:43] <dr_willis> IF this is a linux to linux setup. You may want to use NFS instead of  samba also..
[00:43] <DaSkreech> bob_: I'm off!
[00:44] <dr_willis> In fact it maybe a MUCH better idea to use NFS
[00:44] <DaSkreech> keres: Bye dude
[00:44] <DaSkreech> *koff* fish:// *koff
[00:44] <bob_> DaSkreech: later mna!
[00:44] <bob_> err man!
[00:44] <bob_> thanks again
[00:44] <DaSkreech> !info man
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[00:44] <dr_willis> or ssh/scp and get around shares..
[00:44] <tarvid> i may just depend on scp
[00:44] <tarvid> NFS has slipped from the horizon. Apple support CIFS on its time station and I have to live with XP boxes
[00:45] <tarvid> I like that better
[00:45] <keres> bye DaSkreech
[00:45] <dr_willis> samba will have issues with the system permissions on the stuff.
[00:45] <tarvid> It will server well and is less invasive
[00:45] <dr_willis> sshfs is handy also. :)
[00:45] <DaSkreech> keres: you are alright?
[00:45] <Nibbler`> i was wondering KDE is bothering me about some "not find requested component" is there any debian packtage to install ?
[00:45] <DaSkreech> genii, dr_willis: know anything about USB Cd burners?
[00:46] <tarvid> havn't tried sshfs
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: What are you doing when it tells you that?
[00:46] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  ya plug them  and they work.. for the most part for me
[00:46] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: bob_ says k3b can't find it
[00:46] <dr_willis> did you start k3b after you plugged it in?
[00:47] <dr_willis> can you see/access it normally?
[00:47] <dr_willis> 'whats the airspeed of an unladen swallow?'
[00:47] <genii> DaSkreech: I have a couple external ones, yeah
[00:47] <ryan_> is there a way i can cleanly uninstall firefox along with its installed plugins?
[00:47] <DaSkreech> bob_: THat's for you^^^
[00:47] <DaSkreech> ryan_: extensions you mean ?
[00:47] <ryan_> all
[00:47] <ryan_> yes
[00:47] <dr_willis> ryan_,  user isntalled stuff are in .mozilla
[00:48] <dr_willis> removing firefox from the package manager - wll NOT clean out the users settings for firefox
[00:48] <DaSkreech> ryan_: sudo apt-get remove firefox --purge && mv ~/.mozilla ~/.Trash
[00:48] <Nibbler`> DaSkreech like adding some widget
[00:48] <keres> DaSkreech: yes i am :)
[00:48] <keldrona> does anyone know facebook?
[00:48] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: on the desktop or on the panel?
[00:48] <Nibbler`> there are in my list, but is tells me that it can't find out the coponents
[00:48] <DaSkreech> keldrona: No
[00:48] <Nibbler`> desktop and pannel
[00:48] <DaSkreech> keldrona: or mor appropriate Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[00:49] <cuznt> !linksys
[00:49]  * DaSkreech hides from Facebook. You shall not get me today!!!
[00:49] <cuznt> !routers
[00:49] <ryan_> thanks
[00:49] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: There is a package for plasmoids you may have to install
[00:50] <dr_willis> Most all routers ive seen. You just plug them in and go to http://192.168.1.1    or similer ip.. and get to their interface
[00:50] <keldrona> DaSkreech... yes, but I don't have a problem with fb at all... I've got a problem of session timing out... can you help me?
[00:50] <DaSkreech> !info kdeplasma-addons
[00:50] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: ^^^
[00:50] <Nibbler`> rc  kdeplasma-addons                           4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1                            plasmoids for KDE 4 Plasma - main package
[00:50] <Nibbler`> seems i got those
[00:51] <DaSkreech> keldrona: sounds like you have cookies disabled but I have to go :(
[00:51] <Nibbler`> huh it seems i don't indeed
[00:52] <keres> DaSkreech: does flash player work for Konqueror?
[00:52] <DaSkreech> Yes
[00:52] <DaSkreech> kinda
[00:52] <keres> how do i install it?
[00:52] <keres> DaSkreech?
[00:53] <DaSkreech> keres: if it's installed for Firefox then just go to settings for konqueror -> plugins -> search for plugins and walla
[00:53] <keres> DaSkreech: where???
[00:54] <keres> from within konqueror or the systems menu?
[00:54] <genii> From the package manager
[00:54] <DaSkreech> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> PLugins -> plugins -> scan for plugins
[00:55] <DaSkreech> keres: in Konqueror
[00:55] <keres> tnx
[00:57] <Nibbler`> also i was looking for the setting to chang the appararence of the task bar, but i can't fin out where it is :s
[00:58] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: Appearance settings -> theme I think
[00:58] <genii> DaSkreech: I think
[00:58] <genii> II need more coffee
[00:59] <DaSkreech> genii: :-)
[01:01] <Nibbler`> weird, i can't find it
[01:01] <Nibbler`> i guess i'm missing some components again
[01:02] <Nibbler`> messing with some beta version is way tricky :D
[01:04] <slack> somebody has KDE 4.2 beta 1?
[01:04] <keres> it only sometimes works now
[01:05] <slack> mmm you got it from the experimental-repository?
[01:05] <slack> (sorry for my bad english )
[01:07] <rogan> whats the best utility for riping dvds?
[01:08] <keres> DaSkreech: how do you install firefox?
[01:08] <DaSkreech> keres: in 8.10 ?
[01:09] <DaSkreech> I have beta 1
[01:09] <keres> yes
[01:09] <slack> keres put "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0" in a terminal
[01:09] <DaSkreech> slack: Read the topic
[01:09] <slack> sorry
[01:10] <DaSkreech> slack: no problem the instructiosn for KDE 4.2 are there
[01:10] <DaSkreech> And it's a second party repo :)
[01:10] <Nibbler`> haaa thanks DaSkreech all works fine now :)
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: There we go
[01:11] <Nibbler`> i was wondering about something, i setup my screen to turn off after 20min of inactivity, but only the screen saver turn in, the screens stays on all the time, anyone got the same problem ?
[01:13] <keres> DaSkreech: GTK Radiant is really dodgy. The window drags are delayed and doesn´t seem stable. What´s up?
[01:13] <hellhound_> I am having trouble installing the opensyncutils package using adept.  I get the error "Download Failed" and "APT Error. Context: Package download failed, unable to correct problems, you held broken packages./"
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: yeah I don't know but I think that it's plasma that blocks it
[01:14] <DaSkreech>  I know that if I kill plasma my screen turns off...
[01:14] <DaSkreech> keres: Dunno
[01:24] <keres> I am not finding kde to be as stable as gnome.
[01:24] <keres> maybe it is just me though
[01:24] <keres> is this true?
[01:24] <genii> keres: KDE versions are currently in transition
[01:25] <keres> genii: what does this mean?
[01:26] <genii> keres: It means that the kde4 series (new) is still working out the bugs
[01:26] <DaSkreech> keres: KDE is at version 1 Gnome is at version 26
[01:26] <keres> oh
[01:26] <DaSkreech> One of them has had more time to get out bugs :)
[01:27]  * DaSkreech throws a tikker parade if you guess which one
[01:27] <keres> do you find kde better?
[01:27] <dr_willis> kde 4.X is still very much an infant. :P
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Well yeah That's why I hang out in this room :)
[01:27] <keres> why do you like kde more?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> In terms of stability I guess not but Gnome seems stable in terms of not crashing but also features
[01:28] <DaSkreech> They do very little with each new release
[01:28] <DaSkreech> KDE just works much better together and the way they build stuff is great
[01:28] <Nibbler`> and KDE got amarok :p
[01:28] <DaSkreech> If kate gets a new feature a half dozen other applications get it instantly as well
[01:29] <DaSkreech> You can run amarok in Gnom
[01:29] <DaSkreech> e
[01:29] <genii> KDE has Kaffeine too
[01:29] <Nibbler`> yeah but ...
[01:29] <Nibbler`> not the same :D
[01:29] <DaSkreech> KIO slaves are really good
[01:29] <Nibbler`> and KDE4 is pretty cute too
[01:29] <DaSkreech> Well yeah that's my point
[01:29] <DaSkreech> KDE stuff just works really well with each other
[01:30] <DaSkreech> and outside of having a fairly crappy Web browser pretty much everything you need ships with KDE
[01:30] <Nibbler`> and they are all based on Qt, which is quite good
[01:30] <DaSkreech> Gnome needs a lot of outside apps to be comfy
[01:30]  * genii waits for firefox-qt
[01:30] <DaSkreech> genii: That's a mozilla effort?
[01:30] <keres> firefox works on kde here
[01:30] <genii> DaSkreech: Not sure, but there's been work on it
[01:30] <keres> just installed it :S
[01:30] <Nibbler`> genii are they gonna come with a qt version ? O_o
[01:30] <DaSkreech> Yeah it does but it doesn't work well with KDE :)
[01:30] <Nibbler`> keres > sure but that ugly, i mean mine looks crap
[01:31] <DaSkreech> doesn't really work that well with Gnome either so meh
[01:31] <genii> Nibbler`: Hopefully
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Firefox is a Windows application
[01:31] <Nibbler`> u can get some theme and stuff, but i fond those buggy
[01:31] <Nibbler`> find*
[01:31] <genii> Also I miss gkrellm
[01:31] <Nibbler`> i wonder what's the best browser on KDE
[01:31] <DaSkreech> What now?
[01:31] <Nibbler`> i don't like konqueror so much
[01:31] <DaSkreech> auroa probably
[01:31] <Nibbler`> auroa enevr herd of it
[01:32] <DaSkreech> webkit browser
[01:32] <genii> I wonder if anyone's working on qtrellm
[01:32] <DaSkreech> well shell
[01:32] <DaSkreech> not really a "browser browser"
[01:32] <DaSkreech> genii: What's that?
[01:32] <genii> !info gkrellm
[01:33] <genii> DaSkreech: Some nice system monitors in gnome
[01:33] <hellhound_> I am having trouble installing the opensyncutils package using adept.  I get the error "Download Failed" and "APT Error. Context: Package download failed, unable to correct problems, you held broken packages./"
[01:33] <genii> DaSkreech: ksensors and kima just don't cut it
[01:34]  * mister-tea uses his nose as a system monitor...smoke=bad
[01:44] <Nibbler`> anyone know how to get rid of dolphin ? like really get rid of it ?
[01:44] <Wicked> !gnome
[01:44] <Wicked> !desktop
[01:45] <Nibbler`> hum ^^
[01:45] <DaSkreech> !fluxbox
[01:45] <DaSkreech> Grr why doesn't it mention #fluxbuntu ?
[01:45] <mister-tea> just go to add/remove programs and remove it
[01:45] <stdin> because it's not an official derivative
[01:48] <DaSkreech> Nibbler`: You want konqueror to be the default?
[01:48] <DaSkreech> stdin: So no one is allowed to mention it?
[01:49] <stdin> DaSkreech: sure, but we don't do advertisement for them
[01:50] <keres> what is ./configure used for?
[01:50] <DaSkreech> stdin: ok
[01:50] <keres> it returns uknown bash
[01:51] <DaSkreech> keres: What are you trying to do?
[01:51] <DaSkreech> in short it runs a script
[01:51] <keres> configure source code to associate files
[01:51]  * DaSkreech blinks
[01:52] <keres> http://jdolan.dyndns.org/quake2world/installation
[01:52] <keres> ./configure --with-tools='q2wmap pak'
[01:52]  * genii suspects "unknown bash" might be dash
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Yeah But ...is there a quake2world deb somewhere/
[01:53] <DaSkreech> !default > xenoterracide
[01:53] <DaSkreech> !default > Nibbler`
[01:54] <wesley__> Kmail works pretty well :)
[01:54] <keres> DaSkreech: no
[01:54] <Nibbler`> DaSkreech > i've done that already, as u say the plasma doen't follow the file association
[01:54] <keres> you have to compile it itself
[02:00] <Ahmuck> is there a way to "reset" the maximize window function so that it actually fits the window?
[02:05] <keres> how do you add user accounts?
[02:06] <keres> DaSkreech?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> Yes?
[02:06] <ubuntu_> Okay, I'm back.
[02:06] <keres> how do you add user accounts?
[02:06] <ubuntu_> (I used to have two underscores)
[02:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: Choose a new nick
[02:07] <ubuntu_> how (again, new to konversation)
[02:07] <keres> type /nick nickname
[02:07] <DaSkreech> keres: install kuser-kde4
[02:08] <keres> kuser-kde4
[02:08] <Ich> Okay, now I have a nic.
[02:08] <keres> DaSkreech: sudo apt-get install kuser-kde4
[02:08] <keres> ddidn work
[02:08] <Ich> I put in the new hard drive (and got distracted, and did some other stuff)
[02:08] <Ich> I'm gonna try to format that one.
[02:09] <DaSkreech> keres: sorry try just kuser
[02:09] <Ahmuck> k, i found the problem.  for some reason the computer thinks that the limit of the desktop is way up in the sky.  is there a way to set the outside limits to the outside limits of the screeen ?
[02:09] <Ich> KDE 4 sure is pretty... but then, what is the point of visual chrome anyway?
[02:09] <Ich> I like that the desktop is actually a moveable widget-I neved liked desktops.
[02:11] <Ryunix> halp how do i add rwx permissions for my user to a sudo file ?
[02:12] <genii> Ryunix: You can't use the command "sudo" ?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: What are you trying to do?
[02:13] <Ryunix> genii its for a game in usr/local
[02:14] <Ryunix> and i dont like game dirs in home
[02:14] <genii> Thats's not answering the question ...
[02:14] <Ryunix> genni i cant use sudo everytime i want to run a game
[02:15] <genii> Ryunix: Why not? It's only 4 extra letters to type
[02:15] <Ryunix> what i am trying to do is add read write and execute permissions to my user alongside root
[02:15] <Ryunix> genii so u recommend running online games in root ?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: Why do you need to run it as root?
[02:16] <genii> Ryunix: At any rate, what you can do is visudo and add a command alias for the game binary and allow your username to run it with sudo without password
[02:16] <Ryunix> daskreech: for the lols
[02:16] <Ahmuck> got it fixed.  nm
[02:16] <genii> man sudoers is somewhat interesting reading
[02:16] <wesley__> how do i update clamav?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Why do you need w for an executable?
[02:17] <genii> Ryunix: To answer your earlier Q I don't recommend running anything in root
[02:17] <Ryunix> genii: i remember it was a chmod command but that was long ago and i didnt memorize it
[02:17] <Ryunix> is it 775 or 777? or 755?
[02:17] <kalorin> does anyone know how to flash a bios under linux?
[02:18] <kalorin> or is it even possible, I know most of them are DOS or windows utilities
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: Seriously whatever you are doigng it sounds wrong
[02:19] <Ryunix> daskreech do you play games ? if so are they located in usr/local/games ? if so are they owned by root ?
[02:19] <Ich> It crashed again, this time on a diffrent, unrelated hard drive.  I don't think its the drive.
[02:19] <DaSkreech> That has nothing to do with anything
[02:19] <DaSkreech> almost all commands are owned by root
[02:19] <kalorin> Ich, 8.10?
[02:19] <Ich> Yeah.
[02:19] <kalorin> I've been having some minor irratating issues with it
[02:19] <Ryunix> yeh i wqanna play games and i want the game directory to only have permissions for my user and root
[02:20] <kalorin> had it lock a couple of times
[02:20] <Ich> I tried heron LTS, same thing happened.
[02:20] <Ich> Its a conspiricy :(
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: then you should be changing the owner not the permissions
[02:20] <kalorin> I was running 7.10 fine
[02:20] <kalorin> it's a core2 adn I tried 64bit and it was a mess for me
[02:20] <kalorin> really ran into issues
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: and that's kinda mean :)
[02:21] <genii> Ryunix: In sudoers: Cmnd_Alias	KILL = /usr/bin/kill
[02:21] <kalorin> so i dropped back to 32bit cause it worked great with 32bit in 7.10 and I've been having minor issues since
[02:21] <genii> nah
[02:21] <kalorin> just odd stuff
[02:21] <Ich> I was running 8.06 poorly.  So I decided to upgrade.  I commit to partitions and kerblam.
[02:21] <kalorin> firefox lockin the machine completely
[02:21] <Ryunix> daskreech but that the question was is it possible to have permission for 2 users? or in a group
[02:21] <Ich> kalor, is your PC 64 or just 32 bit?
[02:21] <kalorin> it's a core2 so it's 64
[02:21] <DaSkreech> For root you don't need permissions
[02:21] <kalorin> 4gb of ram
[02:22] <kalorin> making me wonder if the board is having issues with the ram or something
[02:22] <Ich> 4gb is way under the limit for 64 bit
[02:22] <kalorin> or a bios issue, so I was trying to figure out what to do to flash the bios without a bootable floppy (or a floppy at all)
[02:22] <Ich> and its the limit for 32
[02:22] <kalorin> well sure
[02:22] <DaSkreech> and yeah you can manufacture a wide range of stuff with user and group permissions
[02:22] <kalorin> but if you've got a bad chip that's up in the higher range it's possible you just never got up there much and so it never hit it
[02:23] <Ich> What?
[02:23] <kalorin> or it's in the address space that's under the graphics cards space in 32bit but under 64 it's not
[02:23] <kalorin> so you get up there and whack, bad address blows up machine
[02:23] <keres> Is there like a bandwidth meter widget for download anywhere?
[02:23] <genii> Ryunix: In sudoers: Cmnd_Alias  GAME = /usr/local/games/*                     then: yourusername   ALL = NOPASSWD: GAMES
[02:23] <kalorin> I'd like to see a CPU monitor for 8.10
[02:23] <Ich> Fandango on core :P
[02:23] <genii> or GAME rather in the second one
[02:23] <Ich> Compile one
[02:23] <keres> is there already one made though?
[02:24] <Ich> Dude, its not like you need special compatability for ubuntu 8.1
[02:24] <Ich> Just look in adept
[02:25] <Ryunix> daskreech scrap that, i have confused myself and have confused you guys. what i actually meant is how do i create a group with rwx permissions and and add myself to it?
[02:25] <Ich> Skreech, any flashes of inspiration about the installer problem
[02:25] <Ich> If not, where can I find a known good copy of the installer (that I can use from inside the CD?)
[02:25] <goetz> how can I "chat" with the bot?
[02:25] <Ryunix> !
[02:25] <goetz> of the channel
[02:25] <Ich> Like a robot...
[02:25] <Ich> Like a robot...
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Ryunix: change the group of the executable to to your personal hroup and give it 010 permissiosn
[02:26] <Ich> Like a robot... Like a robot...
[02:26] <goetz> !help
[02:26] <mister-tea> !bot
[02:26] <DaSkreech> goetz: try /msg ubottu help
[02:26] <genii> goetz: /msg ubottu Hi
[02:26] <Ryunix> DaSkreech thnx man
[02:26] <Ryunix> ill see
[02:26] <goetz> Ryunix: DaSkreech genii thanks all you!
[02:26] <Ich> Funny part is... I don't know if my dad will be able to tell that he has no hard drive :P
[02:26] <Ryunix> goetz: lol i was going to u beat me to it
[02:27] <goetz> mister-tea: thanks also
[02:27]  * Ryunix has no manners
[02:27] <mister-tea> np
[02:27] <goetz> jej
[02:27] <goetz> e
[02:28] <Ryunix> DaSkreech genii i owe you
[02:28]  * mister-tea gotta love those spanish laughs
[02:28] <DaSkreech> Beer and coffe
[02:28] <genii> Yes
[02:28] <Ryunix> lol
[02:28] <genii> DaSkreech: At this point I'm on the beer...
[02:29] <mister-tea> labatts 50 if your buying
[02:29] <Ryunix> a guinness
[02:29]  * Ryunix brings the beer then runs for it
[02:29]  * genii sips
[02:30]  * mister-tea watches the guiness cascade
[02:30] <Ich> Stuff is happening...
[02:30] <Ryunix> lol enjoy it u payin XD
[02:30] <Ich> I can hear the loud disc drive...
[02:30] <Ich> And see it's pretty light flashing
[02:30] <Ich> hard drives are harder to hear
[02:30] <Ryunix> its the spirit of the cpu
[02:30] <Ich> wait... yep, stuff is happening there too
[02:31] <Ich> calculating files to skip copying
[02:31] <Ich> it usually gets about this far...
[02:31] <Ich> scanning files
[02:31] <Ich> the disc stopped
[02:31] <Ich> copying files
[02:31] <Ich> it usually gets here and dies
[02:31] <Ich> 24%, it might actually work this time.
[02:32] <Ich>  Maybe it was the drive...
[02:32] <Ich> Errno 5
[02:32] <Ich> farked up copying files to disc
[02:33] <Ich> Maybe it can't read something from the disc.
[02:33] <genii> Smells like full HD
[02:33] <Ryunix> anyone getting a pandora?
[02:34] <Ich> The phone
[02:34] <Ich> ?
[02:34] <Ich> (okay, I have no idea what or who a pandora is)
[02:34] <PSiL0> !amarok
[02:34] <Ryunix> no the open source gaming handheld/ umpc
[02:35] <Ryunix> second batch coming 2009
[02:35] <Ryunix> http://openpandora.org/
[02:35] <PSiL0> !fstab
[02:35] <Ich> Do we need an open souce gameing handheld?
[02:35] <Ich> Don't we need open source games first?
[02:35] <Ryunix> hehe
[02:35] <Ich> (Yes, I know, AA, OA, Nexuiz)
[02:35] <Ryunix> port linux games to linux arm
[02:35] <Ich> beep
[02:36] <Ich> Yeah, but I know of just three really good games.
[02:36] <Ich> Name some more and I'll play'em.
[02:36] <Ich> (exactly)
[02:36] <Ryunix> erm ..
[02:37] <Ich> Okay.  So you'll have a wide array of games to play on this 'pandora'.
[02:37] <Ich> The three I mentioned are all FPSs.  I personally can't stand those unless I have an anolog stick or a mouse.  Has the pandora got one of those?
[02:37] <Ryunix> ich but i think the whole " fastest handheld in the world " may convince a few high resource developers to code for the pandora
[02:37] <Ryunix> check the site
[02:38] <Ich> Sure it will.
[02:38] <Ryunix> check the forums
[02:38] <Ich> Because companies with monopolies maintain them by competeing.
[02:38] <Ich> Thats how it... works.
[02:38] <Ich> Right?
[02:38] <Ich> (oligopoly, fine, but same principal)
[02:39] <Ich> Look, there'll be a few good games.  If its cheap I may actually buy one, but only 'cause I wanna write my own games for it.
[02:39] <Ich> I don't see "real" customers going for it.
[02:39] <Ryunix> a few closed source devs have shown interest tho
[02:39] <Ich> Id software, who are the other ones?
[02:39] <Ryunix> ich your right its more for linux savvy people
[02:40] <Ryunix> ich the forums have more info
[02:40] <Ich> If I had the money for a handheld, I'd spend it on a normal PC.  Also, is it a phone?
[02:40] <faileas> Ich: id open sources all its engines eventually.. so their stuff runs on anything that they can
[02:40] <Ich> Can I call people?  Can I dial someone and then telefrag them?
[02:40] <faileas> Ich: if you wanted an open source phone, get the android dev kit, or openmoko
[02:40] <Ich> I wanna know!  :)
[02:41] <faileas> no ;p
[02:41] <Ich> I don't even want a land line phone, let alone one of those newfangled handhelds.
[02:41]  * faileas wants the former ;p
[02:41] <Ich> I'm happy with my telegraph, TYVM.
[02:41] <faileas> full keyboard, multi touch screen, might run ubuntu...
[02:42] <Ryunix> ich but this is the size of a ds and has 256mb ram and cortex a8. sure your laptop will be faster but the pandora can fit in your pocket and will never overheat
[02:42] <Ich> You can run ubuntu on a fridge... but why?  Why do you need ubuntu on a handheld
[02:42]  * genii reprograms his Neo to understand Morse Code
[02:42] <Ryunix> ich its not a phone
[02:42] <Ich> Actually, thats about as good as my laptop :(
[02:42] <Ich> Except it does overheat-I "liquid cool" it with bags of ice.
[02:43] <Ryunix> XD
[02:43] <Ich> High tech stuff.
[02:43] <Ryunix> im so very tired but that made me laugh
[02:43] <Ich> Its so funny 'cause its true.
[02:44] <Ich> I started lagging playing starcraft (1998, blizzard entertainment) got kinda pissed, and thought "well, if the fans can't do it, I guess I need liquid cooling".
[02:44] <Ich> And went into the freezer.
[02:44] <Ryunix> i thought lagg had to do with internet
[02:44] <arkygeek> hi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?
[02:44] <Ich> Well, low framerate.
[02:45] <Ich> If your comp can't keep up with everyone else's then you'll lag too.
[02:45] <Ryunix> oh ok
[02:45] <faileas> Ich: well mainly package management, availability of packages, and such
[02:45] <Ich> (Blizzard is known for it's ingenious network code)
[02:46] <Ich> So are you real people, or is this just a clever excuse for someone to turing test a robot?
[02:46] <Ryunix> i gave up on starcraft leagues because i knew i was never going to be as good as the koreans
[02:46] <Ich> I gave up on starcraft because I'd need copious amounts of caffine to play as fast as those people.
[02:46] <Ich> I played UMS games.
[02:47] <Ich> The, one magical day, it just started crashing on Bnet login.
[02:47] <Ich> I think I may have accidentally uninstalled some font or something.
[02:47] <Ich> Yeah.
[02:47] <Ryunix> have you seen the televised competitions they have in korea? O.O wtf chicks screaming, thousands of fans cheering WTF!!!
[02:47] <Ich> Would it be nutty to just use the live CD for everyday use on one machine
[02:48] <Ich> because it is misbehaveing when you try to actually install it?
[02:48] <Ich> Also, am I a total failure, and should I just crawl back to Gates cap in hand?
[02:48] <faileas> Ich: no no and no
[02:49] <arkygeek> Ich: there is a little trick you can use whereby you boot each time off the iso of the livecd... advantage being speed compared to running off a cd...
[02:49] <Ich> Good, 'cause Windows XP 64 costs like a hundred bucks.
[02:49] <faileas> Ich: however finding out whats causing the problem might be a good idea
[02:49] <faileas> as would maybe using alternate installer to install
[02:49] <Ich> How would I go about doing that?
[02:50]  * Ryunix frowns at ich for even thinking of xp
[02:50] <faileas> lol
[02:50] <faileas> least he wasn't thinking of vista ;)
[02:50] <genii> Ich: I just bought a copy of x64 Pro and it was like $180-something.
[02:50] <Ich> Thats sad.
[02:50] <genii> I agree
[02:50] <Ich> I think now that its out of print
[02:51] <Ich> its our duty to copy it, copyright be damned.
[02:51] <Ich> Or just use WINE.
[02:51] <faileas> lol
[02:51] <Ich> I've found WINE is a great way to ween you off windows programs...
[02:51]  * faileas still has a win 2k box
[02:51] <genii> I installed it into a 64bit VMWare machine, anyhow
[02:51] <Ich> Only reason to use winfails would be for games.
[02:52] <Ryunix> genii: why when there are pirates who sail the seven seas to get you a free copy ?
[02:52]  * mister-tea loves windows ...it's good for business
[02:52] <Ich> Ask the somalis.
[02:52] <Ich> They know all about piracy >_>
[02:52] <genii> Ryunix: I need it for the work I do
[02:52] <Ich> What work do you do with windows?
[02:52] <faileas> Ich: that box has wierd problems with ubuntu, debian is kinda not up to date enough for my liking, and i happened to have a copy around. it works well enough ;p
[02:52] <faileas> main box is kubuntu though
[02:53] <genii> Ich: Basically 3dMax stuff
[02:53] <Ich> What work do you do with wondows?
[02:53] <Ryunix> genii: yeah and these sailing pirates have got tons of copies you can download from their ships
[02:53] <Ryunix> for free
[02:53] <Ich> What, they don't let you use blender?
[02:53] <Ich> ARE THEN H4X8RZ!!???111 (humor)
[02:54] <genii> Ich: POVRay is good but not good enough, unfortunately. So we create in 3dMax, import to .pov and render on linux
[02:55] <faileas> genii: would 3d max work without a 3d card? o0
[02:55] <Ich> Can a turing machine emulate a turing machine?
[02:55] <Ich> So, in closeing... what the f&*% should I do about not being able to install?
[02:56] <genii> faileas: It doesn't care if your card is 3d or not
[02:56] <mister-tea> !piracy
[02:56] <Ich> !somalia
[02:56] <Ich> But you know about piracy?
[02:56] <Ich> !Captain red beard
[02:56] <Ich> !turning test
[02:57] <Ryunix> i installed blender then a huge question mark crawled out of my head
[02:57] <Ich> Sure you don't >_>
[02:57] <mister-tea> !botabuse
[02:57] <Ich> !feelings
[02:57] <Ich> Okay, this could be fun.
[02:57] <Ich> !humanity
[02:57] <Ich> !computers
[02:57] <genii> !botabuse
[02:57] <Ryunix> i wasnt talking about file piracu i was talking about somali pirates who give away windows
[02:57] <mister-tea> please stop
[02:58] <Ich> It was just getting interesting.
[02:58] <Ich> !electric sheep
[02:58] <Ryunix> mister-tea: would you like scones with that?
[02:58] <genii> Ich: Please, stop. It's getting annoying
[02:58] <Ich> Apparently, they do not dream about electric sheep.
[02:58] <Ich> Okay, I'll stop.
[02:59] <Ryunix> genii: can i wish for infinite wishes?
[02:59] <mister-tea> !ot
[02:59] <Ich> I'll just see if the end-users would like to run in the live CD indefinitely...
[02:59] <genii> !helpersnack | mister-tea
[03:00]  * Ryunix goes to bed without a cookie
[03:00] <mister-tea> mmmm gingerbread
[03:00] <Ryunix> cyas
[03:00] <Ich> There isin't any FTP or something where I can just get a known-good version of the installer and install from that?
[03:00] <genii> We DO have #kubuntu-offtopic for more generalised talk guys :)
[03:14] <soapbar> hi - im having trouble with resizing windows - if i move the mouse to the corner or edge of a window the resize icon comes up, but if i click-drag it does nothing
[03:14] <soapbar> im running kubuntu/hardy/amd64/compiz-fusion/xgl
[03:15] <soapbar> can anyone help please?
[03:16] <soapbar> the fullscreen/halfscreen buttons at the top (between X and -) work fine
[03:39] <Necrosan> How is the new Kubuntu PPC build?
[03:40] <benbloom> I get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol
[03:48]  * benbloom watches the tumble-weeds roll by
[03:49] <draik> !telnet
[03:52] <coppro> I got KATE stuck in right-to-left
[03:52] <coppro> any suggestions?
[03:53] <coppro> weird, it went back to normal
[03:53] <benbloom> I get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found" and it's true. there is no enable_avahi anywhere on my system
[03:54] <PSiL0> !netsplit
[03:57] <benbloom> I'm reiterating this because of the netsplit >> I get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found" and it's true. there is no enable_avahi anywhere on my system
[04:12]  * benbloom wistles with the breeze
[04:13] <zigggggy> !seen klobster
[04:13] <zigggggy> :/
[04:14] <bfrog> is there a python stackless package
[04:14] <bfrog> all I see is pypy-stackless
[04:22] <soapbar> hi - im having trouble with resizing windows - if i move the mouse to the corner or edge of a window the resize icon comes up, but if i click-drag it does nothing
[04:22] <soapbar> im running kubuntu/hardy/amd64/compiz-fusion/xgl
[04:40] <thomasmerlier> hey
[05:12] <rvb> hello, we are in the process of deciding to use wireless LAN , is it slow?
[05:12] <rvb> and are the wireless LAN card supported by linux?
[05:20] <rvb> is the wireless LAN slow?
[05:29] <netscaper> alguem online ai ?
[05:30] <netscaper> q possa me ajudar
[05:34] <netscaper> ola ?
[05:35] <netscaper> http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorzd3.jpg
[05:35] <netscaper> toda vez que instalo o kubuntu e atualizo da esses problemas alguem sabe pq ?
[05:36] <netscaper> é algum bug da versao 8.10?
[05:39] <gbains> any one has listing for vegas room
[05:43] <faileas> netscaper: this is an english only channel- i;d point you to a more appropriate one but i'm not sure what that language is
[05:45] <netscaper> ok
[05:46] <netscaper> faileas: all time that I install kubuntu and I bring up to date of this problem
[05:46] <netscaper> http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorzd3.jpg
[05:46] <netscaper> faileas: it knows because this would be happening
[05:48] <netscaper> =/
[06:38] <duddie> Hi all ,How is everyone?
[06:39] <duddie> I am to install Limewire, in Kubuntu, help, anyone
[06:42] <duddie> Nobody knows I guess
[06:42] <duddie> is a kubuntu Guru in the house here?
[06:43] <duddie> I need help getting my Limewire installed, I attempted to install, but can't find Limewire anywhere.
[06:50] <zoggy> duddie: there's an open source equivalent on kubuntu called apollon
[06:50] <zoggy> apt:apollon
[06:51] <bazhang> !frostwire
[06:51] <zoggy> ubottu: is that a better alternative to apollon?
[06:52] <zoggy> haha
[06:55] <zoggy> bazhang: is frostwire, in your opinion better than apollon?
[06:56] <duddie> frostwire,, ok, I will give it a try.
[06:56] <duddie> brb
[06:56] <bazhang> !info apollon
[06:56] <bazhang> zoggy, they are not the same thing
[07:00] <zoggy> bazhang: according to my research, they sound similar.... here's a sentence about apollon:
[07:00] <zoggy> "Apollon is an easy to use peer to peer client for the KDE Desktop. It supports the Gnutella, OpenFT.."
[07:01] <zoggy> "...and FastTrack networks. This makes installing applications like Limewire redundant"
[07:02] <bazhang> zoggy, never used either of them; frostwire is quite similar to limewire apparently though
[07:02] <zoggy> bazhang: ok cool thanks
[07:02] <bazhang> zoggy, supports...does not mean 'works well with'
[07:02] <zoggy> hehe
[07:02] <zoggy> touche
[07:17] <duddie_> Whats up all, Kubuntu, Rocks, on my Lappy
[07:18] <pulaski> hello, I'm trying run dpkg.  I received this error: 'Package libticalcs2-7 is not configured yet" What is the dpkg form for reconfiguring an existing packes?
[08:28] <Ayabara> I have two screens and I want to set resolution and arrange the screens. How do I do this in kde4? I can only find the resolution settings..
[08:30] <Ayabara> Should I use ati's tool?
[08:41] <skabet> hi
[08:42] <skabet> Anyone know what i should do if kwin continues to crash?
[08:43] <skabet> gives a segfault on start
[08:43] <estres> skabet: the better you can do is make a backup and reinstall yor OS
[08:44] <skabet> well, that is not going to be an option :)
[08:44] <estres> ok, there is another
[08:44] <estres> you can try to erase /home/user/.kde
[08:44] <skabet> tried that
[08:45] <estres> Oh i see
[08:45] <skabet> same thing
[08:45] <skabet> but i think i came after an small update
[08:45] <estres> well I have no other ideas
[08:45] <estres> actually KDE is a little dificult to keep it in good shape
[08:46] <estres> after some intalls or upgrades
[08:46] <estres> it goes down
[08:46] <estres> an present that kind of problems
[08:46] <skabet> how do i check what was updated latest?
[08:46] <estres> you will find it in the logs
[08:47] <estres> but I do not know where are they
[08:47] <estres> if an upgrade
[08:47] <estres> is your problem you can not solve unisntalling
[08:47] <estres> that upgrade
[08:47] <estres> I can tell you
[08:48] <estres> because all upgrades kill the old versions for good
[08:48] <estres> but upgrades never cause that kind of problems
[08:48] <estres> exept
[08:49] <estres> if un have upgraded to a beta version
[08:49] <estres> if you
[08:49] <estres> I mean
[08:59] <comedit> My kubuntu screen often gets "grey" like in low power mode
[08:59] <comedit> i can't find a setting where to alter this
[09:18] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:18] <PSiL0> anyone installed the openoffice 3 update?
[09:18] <PSiL0> or have taken it for a test drive?
[09:18] <PSiL0> !openoffice
[09:19] <potwak> i'm using VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
[09:19] <potwak> thanks for any help.
[09:19] <potwak> =)
[09:21] <potwak> could someone help me. i'm running out of time now. :|
[09:21] <PSiL0> potwak: seems like many people had trouble with this card
[09:21] <PSiL0> http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=936535
[09:22] <potwak> Thanks.. :)
[09:22] <PSiL0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UniChrome
[09:22] <PSiL0> here's a guide
[09:23] <PSiL0> potwak: I think the guide I posted is the solution
[09:23] <potwak> PSiL0: Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.
[09:25] <PSiL0> ahhh, openoffice 3 from launchpad is crashing all over the place.. *sigh*
[09:25] <comedit> My kubuntu screen often gets "grey" like in low power mode
[09:25] <comedit> i can't find a setting where to alter this
[09:25] <comedit> there is a howto i am on 3.0 without a problem
[09:25] <comedit> just a sec
[09:25] <PSiL0> thanx...
[09:26] <PSiL0> i just updated using adept from a launchpad repo listed in one of the guides..
[09:26] <comedit> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
[09:26] <comedit> works as well for 8.10
[09:27] <PSiL0> cooll
[09:28] <PSiL0> will sudo apt-get autoremove openoffice.org suffice?
[09:29] <sascha_> does anybody know about redraw problems using kde4, compiz and konsole?
[09:30] <sascha_> sometimes i have to hit enter twice to see the results of a command
[09:30] <janorcutt> !amarok
[09:30] <sascha_> after the first enter, nothing changes in konsole
[09:30] <sascha_> but when i force a redraw event, everything is right
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:31] <comedit> PSiL0: just follow the tutorial it tells you alkso how to uninstall
[09:32] <PSiL0> ok
[09:32] <PSiL0> thans
[09:32] <PSiL0> thanks
[09:38] <comedit> My kubuntu screen often gets "grey" like in low power mode (8.10)
[09:38] <PSiL0> man, adept is pretty pitiful (at this stage) in removing packages
[09:39] <PSiL0> comedit: serves to save battery life in laptops
[09:39] <comedit> a for some reason my system settings menu is not starting up anymore
[09:39] <comedit> yeah but i can't find where to alter that
[09:40] <comedit> PSiL0: install synaptic and use that
[09:40] <PSiL0> i did
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> PSiL0: or use apt, nice and easy
[09:40] <PSiL0> i usually use synaptic to remove packages, I don't know why I used adept instead to remove ooo 3.0
[09:41] <PSiL0> hah, that was my first inclination :-p
[09:47] <Mamarok> PSiL0: some usability specialist should have a look at adept anyways
[09:47] <Mamarok> not usable by many new users I fear
[09:47] <arkygeek> hi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?
[09:48] <Mamarok> arkygeek: it's Kubuntu 8.10, .10 being the month of release
[09:48] <Mamarok> arkygeek: what updates did you make? And wich version of KDE 4?
[09:48] <arkygeek> whatever version was on the disk i guess
[09:49] <arkygeek> i enabled the backports.
[09:49] <PSiL0> Mamarok:  Yeah, I heard rumblings about Adept not being ready for primetime yet.  But credit the person who had to build a new package manager from scratch
[09:49] <arkygeek> just thought of that. crap.
[09:50] <PSiL0> woohoo, openoffice 3 installed..
[09:50] <arkygeek> kernel 2.6.27.9
[09:50] <Mamarok> arkygeek: no, that shouldn't be a problem, it simply depends on what updates you made, you didn't do any new package installs, didn't you?
[09:50] <PSiL0> I shall never forsake cli again
[09:51] <Mamarok> PSiL0: +1 :)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> what is the difference betwenn apt-get and aptitude
[09:51] <PSiL0> now I can get back to my data quantification...
[09:51] <arkygeek> yes actually....  I installed some things to set up a dev environment as per the qgis.org web site .   do you want to see the url?
[09:52] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: aptitude resumes many different apt-something tools
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: resumes?
[09:52] <Mamarok> arkygeek: so you added packages from the outside?
[09:52] <arkygeek> no no
[09:52] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: pulls together
[09:52] <arkygeek> Mamarok: nothing added from the outside
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: you lost me
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: apt-get installs all deps for an app and can remove orphaned deps. Surely they both do that
[09:54] <arkygeek> Mamarok: http://wiki.qgis.org/qgiswiki/BuildingFromSource#head-8e1e1ff25b5e9f587393e0592c0ff34891ec07cc
[09:55] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: did you try aptitude?
[09:56] <Mamarok> you can use apt-cache search, etc in the same app
[09:56] <Mamarok> else, you have to type every command separately
[09:56] <PSiL0> hmmm, I hope adept's botched openoffice upgrade was just a one-off, or there will be quite a few angry people coming in here tomorrow
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: ive always used apt-get
[09:57] <Mamarok> arkygeek: why did you build from source?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: i dont get why there are so many package handlers
[09:57] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: give aptitude a try, you'll see :)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: well i've got nothing more to install, the system is optimal :D
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: ive even got a script to do a full update from cli
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: i dont like gui installers, they take forever
[09:58] <Mamarok> arkygeek: also, your kernel is a bit outdated
[09:59] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: it's not GUI :)
[09:59] <arkygeek> Mamarok: i built because i do a lot of testing for them
[10:00] <Mamarok> arkygeek: you should use the Qt4 packages that come with your distribution...
[10:00] <arkygeek> Mamarok: i am trying to set up wy wifi from cli
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: good, gui is silly
[10:02] <arkygeek> cant seem to get any dhcp offers :-(
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> arkygeek: if you set static ip, can you ping your dhcp server?
[10:03] <pronoy> ActionParsnip: i downloaded the amarok 1.98 tar.gz but i can't install it ? how do i install it ?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: tar zxvf <file>
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: then compile by reading the readme
[10:04] <pronoy> ok
[10:04] <pronoy> i'll get back to youi
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: or you can install from repo
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> pronoy:once you have compiled, i'd suggest making a deb
[10:05] <pronoy> ActionParsnip: the repo isnt' there on the site
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: so uninstallation is easier
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:06] <PSiL0> ActionParsnip:  I think that will install 1.4.x if I am not mistaken
[10:06] <Mamarok> pronoy: why don't you use the existing package?
[10:06] <pronoy> ActionParsnip: amarok 2 is beta version......i just get 1.4 when i install it using apt get
[10:06] <Mamarok> there is a special repo for it:
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: true, well then you'll need to compile
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> pronoy: or use neon
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> !neon
[10:07] <PSiL0> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-1
[10:07] <arkygeek> ActionParsnip: no i cant
[10:07] <PSiL0> add the appropriate repo
[10:07] <Mamarok> pronoy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[10:07] <PSiL0> sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[10:07] <Mamarok> make sure to unistall amarok 1.4.x first though!
[10:07] <PSiL0> and that too!
[10:08] <pronoy> Mamarok: does this repo include amarok 1.98
[10:08] <arkygeek> aarrghhh
[10:08] <Mamarok> pronoy: yes, 1.98 == RC1
[10:08] <pronoy> PSiL0: dis just gives the tar file
[10:10] <PSiL0> add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:10] <PSiL0> then sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[10:10] <PSiL0> that i what I did when trying out 1.98 a couple weeks ago
[10:11] <pronoy> PSiL0: is amarok 2 better ?
[10:11] <PSiL0> I didn't have time to really fiddle around with it, so now I'm back on 1.4.2
[10:11] <PSiL0> pronoy:  I don't know, I think it is a judgment call
[10:12] <PSiL0> I didn't notice anything vastly different between the two when it came to performance..
[10:12] <pronoy> PSiL0: yeah ok :)
[10:13] <PSiL0> I missed having a context script fetching album reviews and placing them in the music tab
[10:13] <pronoy> PSiL0: is this version stable ?
[10:13] <Mamarok> PSiL0: 1.4.2???
[10:13] <PSiL0> I heard amarok 2 has something like that, but I'll revisit it.
[10:13] <Mamarok> that is like 3 years old!!!
[10:13] <PSiL0> whoops
[10:13] <PSiL0> 1.4.10
[10:13] <PSiL0> sorry
[10:14] <Mamarok> :)
[10:14] <Mamarok> pronoy: Amarok 2 is new and different
[10:14] <pronoy> Marmarok: ok......so its unstable :)
[10:14] <PSiL0> Actually, you are probably the person I should ask.  Is it possible to have the comments field or any custom field show up in the central panel?
[10:14] <Mamarok> no, it's not unstable!!!!
[10:15] <pronoy> Marmarok: kidding :)
[10:15] <PSiL0> pronoy:  You should play around with it to see if you like it..
[10:15] <pronoy> PSiL0: i will thanks for support
[10:15] <Mamarok> PSiL0: it's certainoly possible, but not implemented yet
[10:15] <Mamarok> *certainly
[10:15] <PSiL0> np.. good luck!
[10:15] <Mamarok> I gues somebody has to write a widget for it
[10:16] <Mamarok> guess
[10:16] <PSiL0> that's right..
[10:16] <Mamarok> pronoy: Amarok 2 is due any day now....:)
[10:16] <Mamarok> 2.0
[10:16] <PSiL0> It is just little holdover feature I liked using in mediamonkey that threw up the comments field, along with other metadata in a side panel a la the music context tab in 1.4.x
[10:17] <PSiL0> will, the release candidate is out
[10:18] <PSiL0> actually after editing your sources.list, make sure you type sudo aptitude update
[10:18] <Mamarok> PSiL0: and the devs have already tons of new features in their git branches for 2.1 :)
[10:19] <PSiL0> Mamarok:  Looking forward to them...
[10:19] <PSiL0> Mamarok:  At least amarok retained its snappiness in handling large collections
[10:19] <PSiL0> something itunes and songbird are woeful at doing currently
[10:19] <pronoy> PSiL0 Mamarok guys the repo doesn't have amarok-kde4 package......
[10:20] <PSiL0> pronoy: did you "sudo aptitude update"?
[10:20] <Mamarok> PSiL0: if you follow this instructions, you can build your own 2.0.1 :
[10:20] <Mamarok> http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/833-Installing-Amarok-2-from-SVN-in-your-home-directory.html
[10:20] <PSiL0> ahhhh... nice...
[10:20] <pronoy> PSiL0 nope....sorry... :D
[10:20] <Mamarok> pronoy: just look for amarok
[10:21] <johannes_> hei guys! trying to install my brother mfc printer. follow the guidelines. try to install rpm package with kpackage or smaratpm. same problem: error. cannot create channel for .... what can i do?
[10:22] <Mamarok> actually, yes, package name is amarok-kde4
[10:24] <Mamarok> johannes_: what rpm package are you talking about?
[10:25] <Mamarok> johannes_: did you check the linuxprinting.org website to see if it's actually supported?
[10:33] <pronoy_> PSiL0, Mamarok: AMAROK 2 ITS ULTRA COOL :d
[10:33] <PSiL0> glad you like it..
[10:33] <pronoy_> PSiL0: can you please explain a bit about neon..... ?
[10:34] <PSiL0> Isn't that nightly builds?   I don't know to tell you the truth
[10:35] <pronoy_> ok maybe Mamarok can help ?
[10:35] <PSiL0> pornoy_:  Gotta run.. enjoy messing aroudn with the new amarok...
[10:35] <pronoy_> PSiL0: thanks.....cya
[10:36] <Guest320> Hi. Just did a full system reinstall and updated packages and nvidia driver. Now X crash whenever i log in (i get to the part where it shows my desktop)
[10:36] <pronoy_> Mamarok: can you please explain about NEON /
[10:40] <johannes_> Mamarok: i already had this printer installed on my gentoo box, so i guess it's supported.
[10:41] <johannes_> Mamarok: it's 2 different printer packages ... lpd package and cupswrapper package
[10:44] <Mamarok> johannes_: did you check if these are available in the package list?
[10:45] <johannes_> Mamarok: how to do this?
[10:45] <Mamarok> apt-cache search lpd and the same again for cupswrapper
[10:46] <Mamarok> johannes_: else, you can install rpm packages using the alien command, but you will have to install the latter first
[10:48] <johannes_> Mamarok: actually i think this is what i tried by using kpackage and smartpm ... and those errored telling me something about a missing channel for the package... so i thought the system must recognize the package for example as a KDE/Printing package .. however.. i'll try this alien command
[10:48] <Mamarok> johannes_: even better, do "apt-cache search brother
[10:48] <Mamarok> what do you mean by "missing channel"?
[10:49] <johannes_> Mamarok: well, i don't know. that's what i get by kpackage ... i'll just try alien... well. the apt-cache get's me the desired packages, but i think those are installed and MY PRINTER (like a version) is missing
[10:49] <Mamarok> johannes_: you speak German, don't you?
[10:50] <johannes_> Mamarok: ja
[10:50] <Mamarok> go to #kubuntu-de, I can explain better
[10:54] <pcfreak_> is there a known bug with thunderbird in 8.10 it does not start here, only once when creating a profile. it never opens the application visible to me!
[11:00] <instorm> W
[11:09] <mokinys> hi all
[11:10] <Kirisaku> fuck
[11:10] <Kirisaku> how to use this thing??? XD
[11:10] <Mamarok> Kirisaku: behave!
[11:11] <Sascha_damals> type some letters und hit enter
[11:11] <Mamarok> mokinys: what thing ?
[11:11] <mokinys> ubuntu
[11:11] <Mamarok> mokinys: you should be a tad more specific...
[11:11] <mokinys> wait i think i got it...
[11:11] <mokinys> XD
[11:12] <mokinys> no "mycomputer" ?XDD
[11:13] <Mamarok> mokinys: please, be specific, we can't help you if you don't write correct phrases!
[11:13] <mokinys> oh realy?
[11:13] <Sascha_damals> i think he is missing some windows stuff
[11:13] <mokinys> i think too
[11:13] <mokinys> XD
[11:13] <Sascha_damals> like the start button and a my computer icon
[11:13] <bazhang> mokinys, do  you have a kubuntu support question?
[11:13] <mokinys> hmm maybe...
[11:14] <bazhang> !ask | mokinys
[11:14] <mokinys> where are my desktop games
[11:14] <mokinys> XDDD
[11:14] <mokinys> ?
[11:15] <mokinys> where is my chuck Norris game? XD
[11:15] <Mamarok> mokinys: how old are you, 12?
[11:15] <bazhang> !offtopic | mokinys
[11:16] <mokinys> ą“
[11:16] <mokinys> 10
[11:16] <mokinys> yeah offtopic
[11:16] <mokinys> XD
[11:16] <Mamarok> mokinys: please behave or leave!
[11:16] <mokinys> behave your mother\Ą
[11:16] <mokinys> XD
[11:17] <Sascha_damals> when i see this writing, maybe you should stick to windows, mokinys
[11:17] <Mamarok> some admin here?
[11:17] <mokinys> well now is the computer lesson so teacher told me to be in ubuntu lol
[11:17] <mokinys> XD
[11:18] <Sascha_damals> you got computer lessons in first class?
[11:19] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[11:35] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: sorry, had to dash out....  i am having probs getting wifi to connect from cli... :-(  my router is set to no encryption.... it connects easily from the gui, but as you will recall, i can't get to the gui....
[11:36] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: you should kill your X server
[11:37] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: sudo iwlist shows cell 01 :  address 00:13:46:FD:35:AD
[11:37] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: ok.... ermmmm
[11:37] <Mamarok> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:37] <arkygeek_> ive tried that
[11:37] <arkygeek_> same thing
[11:38] <Mamarok> then what is this kde-greet package you are talking about?
[11:38] <arkygeek_> that is gone now
[11:38] <arkygeek_> sorry i misunderstood
[11:38] <arkygeek_> ok, you know when you start up, you get the nice dark grey background with the fancy swirly things on it, and a login window...
[11:39] <arkygeek_> i dont get the login window.  just the background and a mouse cursor
[11:39] <Mamarok> ok, that might be an install problem, do you have kdm installed?
[11:40] <arkygeek_> yes
[11:40] <Mamarok> other possibility is the X driver you use, what type of graphic card do you have?
[11:40] <arkygeek_> oh!
[11:40] <arkygeek_> i enabled the restricted driver (fglrx or whatever.... ati card)
[11:41] <Mamarok> hm, that could be a problem, what is your card?
[11:41] <arkygeek_> it was running great until that come to think of it.  and then it coincided with the qgis build
[11:41] <arkygeek_> checking
[11:41] <arkygeek_> radeom x300SE
[11:41] <Mamarok> hm, sounds great
[11:42] <Sascha_damals> You had a look in /var/log/kdm.log?
[11:42] <arkygeek_> radeon i mean :P
[11:42] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: why not get rid of the external packages you installed?
[11:42] <arkygeek_> what external packages though
[11:42] <arkygeek_> everything came from ubuntu repos
[11:42] <Mamarok> and use the Qt4 packages that go with Kubuntu
[11:42] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: but you installed from source, bad idea sometimes
[11:43] <Mamarok> nuke them and install the *.deb packages in the official repos
[11:43] <arkygeek_> just the qgis though....
[11:43] <arkygeek_> oh i think i see something
[11:44] <arkygeek_> log file: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
[11:44] <arkygeek_> ^ 2x
[11:44] <arkygeek_> then :
[11:45] <arkygeek_> kdmgreet(5510) KLocalPrivate::initEncoding: Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.
[11:45] <arkygeek_> ^ a lot of those
[11:45] <Mamarok> Oo, did you change your X server settings?
[11:45] <arkygeek_> don't *think* so
[11:46] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: check the previous Xorg logs
[11:46] <Mamarok> or just try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:47] <arkygeek_> then reboot?
[11:48] <Mamarok> no, only restart the x server
[11:50] <arkygeek_> Mamarok:  kdmgreet still at 100%cpu
[11:50] <arkygeek_> ermmmm i mean kdm_greet
[11:51] <arkygeek_> it might be quicker for me to reinstall the whole os
[11:51] <arkygeek_> :-(
[11:51] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: no idea what this kdm_greet is you have
[11:52] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: did you try to move your .kde/?
[11:52] <Mamarok> sometimes a config problem
[11:52] <arkygeek_> will try
[11:53] <arkygeek_> that did nothing.  but when i think about it.... i don't even get to TRY those settings.  it gives me no chance to even log in
[11:53] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: it doesn't get that far :P
[11:54] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: well, you can move .kde/ from the command line
[11:54] <arkygeek_> i did
[11:54] <Mamarok> you shouldn't move it once kde is started :)
[11:54] <Mamarok> ok, so something is missing in your packages I guess
[11:56] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: why not remove those qgis files?
[11:56] <Mamarok> as it worked before you installed them...
[12:43] <yanko> hey
[12:43] <yanko> i need some ubuntu help
[12:43] <yanko> any one can help me?
[12:43] <Tm_T> !anyone
[12:43] <yanko> i hate bots
[12:44] <Tm_T> yanko: why so?
[12:44] <yanko> they are stupid
[12:44] <yanko> they do what you program them to do lol
[12:44] <yanko> ok now
[12:44] <Tm_T> yanko: IMHO that's smart
[12:45] <yanko> does anyone know why when i install ubuntu on a drive  thats not partions and shared with windows vista
[12:46] <yanko> it does not allow me to boot ubuntu it shows me a cmd line  for grub>
[12:46] <yanko> ?
[12:46] <desu> yanko: using wubi?
[12:46] <yanko> well i installed ubuntu with in wubi
[12:46] <yanko> with in vista lol using wubi
[12:47] <desu> hmm...
[12:47] <desu> try doing this in the grub command line:
[12:47] <yanko> ??
[12:47] <desu> root (hd0,<partition number minus 1>)
[12:47] <desu> chainloader +1
[12:47] <desu> boot
[12:47] <desu> that should be able to run windows boot manager and get you back into windows
[12:48] <yanko> i am able to chosse between windows and ubuntu
[12:48] <desu> ah, i see...
[12:48] <yanko> windows bootloader
[12:48] <desu> hmm..
[12:48] <desu> did you delete any kubuntu files?
[12:48] <yanko> nope
[12:48] <yanko> ubutnu i use**
[12:48] <desu> was it working previously?
[12:49] <yanko> i could not get anyone in #ubuntu to hel me
[12:49] <desu> i see...
[12:49] <desu> was it working previously?
[12:49] <yanko> is there a way to boot ubuntu within the grub?
[12:49] <yanko> like a code or something?
[12:50] <desu> yes, and that's why i'm asking if it was working when you'd installed it
[12:50] <desu> so, was it?
[12:50] <yanko>  different partions it works   i am on it now
[12:50] <desu> no, as in, when you'd installed it with wubi, did it workthe first time time or has it been like this forever?
[12:50] <yanko> and i need about 20gb
[12:51] <yanko> with wubi?? i was in vista i insert the cd ubuntu8.10  and it sais what i want to do
[12:51] <yanko> i choose install in windows  and it installes it
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> I personally would not endorse wubi at all
[12:52] <yanko> whn it on same drive different partions it works fine
[12:52] <yanko> when**
[12:52] <yanko> but when i put it on another drive it shows me grub>  on the boot
[12:52] <yanko> it does not boot ubuntu it shoes grub>
[12:52] <desu> did you shut down windowscleany?
[12:53] <desu> *windows cleanly
[12:53] <yanko> yea
[12:53] <desu> hmm...
[12:53] <desu> which partition number did you install ubuntu on?
[12:53] <desu> (in the wubi install)
[12:53] <yanko> e:
[12:54] <yanko> 6gb
[12:54] <yanko> d: sorry
[12:54] <yanko> 15gb
[12:54] <desu> i'm guessing d is the second partition on your drive?
[12:54] <yanko> nope
[12:54] <yanko> it a hardrive
[12:55] <yanko> no partions on it
[12:55] <desu> i see...
[12:55] <yanko> all tho i got some files on it
[12:55] <randagio> ciao
[12:55] <yanko> ciao
[12:55] <yanko> like movies
[12:55] <randagio> yanko ki sei tu?
[12:55] <randagio> yes
[12:55] <randagio> italian movies
[12:55] <yanko> i dont speak italian
[12:55] <desu> is the entire hard drive formatted as one?
[12:55] <yanko> or prtugies
[12:56] <randagio> I speak english
[12:56] <yanko> it was
[12:56] <randagio> and french
[12:56] <randagio> nothing
[12:56] <yanko> than is used it for storage
[12:56] <randagio> only to say bye
[12:56] <yanko> ca va bien mon ami?
[12:56] <desu> ...
[12:56] <randagio> très bien
[12:56] <randagio> :P
[12:56] <desu> please boot from a live CD and paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" to rafb.net/paste
[12:56] <Mamarok> Folks, keep it English please :)
[12:56] <yanko> tu iend d ou?
[12:56] <randagio> c'è qualke italiano????
[12:56] <randagio> south italy
[12:57] <randagio> lecce
[12:57] <randagio> mauroooooo
[12:57] <Mamarok> randagio: !it
[12:57] <randagio> ci sei?'
[12:57] <Mamarok>  !it | randagio
[12:57] <randagio> chi mi dice come funziona sta cosa?
[12:57] <randagio> grazie
[12:57] <Mamarok> ti prego
[12:58] <yanko> anyway
[12:58] <yanko> thank you
[12:58] <yanko> gtg got to work i ll try to talk here tonght for mor info
[12:58] <yanko> bye
[12:59] <linux_> всем привет
[12:59] <desu> !ru | linux_
[13:03] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[13:04] <knusperfrosch> kleopatra on 8.10 wants a gpgME-lib that supports gpgConf
[13:09] <guid> hi.
[13:10] <guid> Kubuntu intrepid have difficulties to manage my Dell (D520) laptop screen + LCD Screen.  Someone knows a solution?
[13:11] <ariel_> guyss kopete drives me crazy how can I install something else easily?
[13:15] <dhendu9411> does anyone know how to adjust key/button mappings for input devices?
[13:16] <faileas> ariel_: you could probably install pidgin - sudo apt-get install pidgin in CLI
[13:22] <ariel_> thx faileas! love u
[13:25] <dhendu9411> I have tried adding custom actions in the "Input Actions" section of the system settings, but they don't seem to work at all.
[13:25] <dhendu9411> no matter what I put in them
[13:26] <dhendu9411> any help would be appreciated
[13:32] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:33] <knusperfrosch> anyone running 4.2-beta1? many rough edges?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> knusperfrosch, actually it's not too bad so far ..better than I figured
[13:36] <root> 嘿嘿 有人吗？
[13:37] <BluesKaj> knusperfrosch, still have a bit of trouble figuring out the panels taskbars etc , but that's just kde4
[13:37] <BluesKaj> !cn | root
[13:38] <BluesKaj> root is not a safe nick!
[13:38] <Guest81407> Why my KDE4 in Kubuntu is a bit slow, my hardware is CM540 with 1.5G Memery?
[13:38] <knusperfrosch> BluesKaj: got a lot of trouble with 4.1 so just trying to figure out if it's really getting worse ;)
[13:39] <arkygeek_> Mamarok:  I am going to reinstall the os.  :-(  I can't sort it out
[13:39] <BluesKaj> i would say it's quite good, knusperfrosch
[13:39] <Guest81407> I like using root in Kubuntu, bucause it is very convinient
[13:39] <BluesKaj> gotta take out the garbage ..BBL
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Guest81407, it's also convenient for anyone to take over youerpc
[13:40] <Guest81407> HeiHei
[13:40] <arkygeek_> Guest81407: whats your ip address???
[13:41] <arkygeek_> n/m  got it
[13:41] <Guest81407> 192.168.0.110
[13:41] <Guest81407> the internat
[13:41] <cameron_> help an appreciative newbie (me!) I have a suspicon that my external hard drive is failing, is there a utility to confirm or deny this?
[13:41] <arkygeek_> no actually it is something else.  dont use root.
[13:42] <Guest81407> I've got it, thank you. arkgeek
[13:42] <Guest81407> Can you help me solve the slow of Kubuntu
[13:43] <Guest81407> my hardware is not bad , but i feel a bit slow in kubuntu
[13:44] <arkygeek_> Guest81407: are you using a livecd?
[13:45] <Guest81407> not，I have installed it in my PC
[13:47] <arkygeek_> !sudo Guest81407
[13:47] <arkygeek_> !sudo
[13:48] <Guest81407> I know sudo, but every time it always need to input passwd,
[13:48] <Guest81407> This is the basic knowledge
[13:52] <knusperfrosch> apachelogger: adept failure for 4.2-beta1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82954/
[13:54] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna, vorian ping :)
[13:55] <BluesKaj> knusperfrosch, do you have the ppa repos in your sources.list ?
[13:56] <cameron_> okay well using the power of google, I was able to find 'smartd' how do I install it now?
[13:56] <cameron_> doesn't show up in the add/remove programs list
[13:56] <cameron_> it also seems to be for gentoo linux?
[13:57] <knusperfrosch> BluesKaj: sure, but there is a collision of kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.deb and koffice-data-kde4
[14:00] <BluesKaj> knusperfrosch, perhaps a bug report is in order at ww.launchpad.net
[14:00] <BluesKaj> err www.launchpad.net
[14:00] <BluesKaj> !launchpad
[14:03] <JontheEchidna> knusperfrosch: those koffice packages are known to be incompatible, just
[14:04] <JontheEchidna> remove them :P\
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:12] <BluesKaj> yo
[14:12] <eagles0513875> hey ActionParsnip
[14:12] <eagles0513875> hey BlueEagle
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> quiet in here
[14:22]  * ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow
[14:27] <Nibbler`> hi there, i've upgraded my kde to the experimental branch top 4.2 is it possible to return to the stable version .
[14:27] <Nibbler`> ?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Nibbler`: you'll have to remove the one you have, then install the original
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Nibbler`: you MAY be able to sudo apt-get --reinstall install kubuntu-desktop
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Nibbler`: but it will reinstall a tonne of stuff
[14:31] <joey__> any  one got amarok-kde4 Reps to work in 8.10
[14:32] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-1
[14:32] <joey__> iv tried that but it does not show up in the package manager
[14:33] <Nibbler`> ActionParsnip so i should change the source.list, and then reinstall the kde stuff humm
[14:34] <Mamarok> joey__: you must install the deb sources in this webpage in your sources.list :)
[14:34] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna "just remove them", isn't that easy apt refuses to remove anything
[14:35] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get install -f
[14:35] <knusperfrosch> nope
[14:35] <joey__> i put deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main in the source list as bin
[14:36] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82973/
[14:36] <Nibbler`> ActionParsnip hum no won't work i guess i'm good for reinstalling my system :)
[14:36] <ikonia> JuJuBee: can you part and re-join the channel please
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> sudo dpkg -i --force-install /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_all.de
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> should also alleviate the need to remove koffice2
[14:37] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: so koffice is knowen to be incompatible, why not write it down there as first step?: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[14:37] <ikonia> JuJuBee: can you also join #ubuntu-ops please if you having problems still
[14:38] <Nibbler`> so basically the apt system won't allow you to revert to some paktage ?
[14:39] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `install'
[14:39] <BluesKaj> unless you remove  first then reinstall the reversion
[14:39] <JontheEchidna> oh, --force-overwrite, my bad
[14:39] <knusperfrosch> thx
[14:40] <BluesKaj> JontheEchidna, my bad what ?
[14:40] <Mamarok> joey__: exactly
[14:40] <JontheEchidna> BluesKaj: that's an expression that means "my fault"
[14:40] <Mamarok> joey__: then you update your packege list, then you can see the amarok-kde4 package
[14:40] <BluesKaj> oh
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I thought it was ghetto talk
[14:41] <knusperfrosch> so who can edit dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `install'
[14:41] <knusperfrosch> whoops
[14:41] <joey__> yes I did all that but it still does not show up. I also have a lot of reps that when it refreshes they fell but that is a nother problem
[14:42] <knusperfrosch> so who can edit http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58 ?
[14:43]  * JontheEchidna tries to remember the password for the website
[14:43] <Mamarok> joey__: what version of Kubuntu and KDE4 do you use?
[14:44] <joey__> Mamarok 8.10 with KDE 4.2 Beta 1
[14:45] <JuJuBee> ikonia: ?
[14:45] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: kwallet? :D
[14:45] <JuJuBee> Ah... that's better.  Thank you very much.
[14:45] <Mamarok> joey__: did you check that your sources.list is ok, no typos in it?
[14:45] <JontheEchidna> :P
[14:45] <Mamarok> joey__: are you using apt-get or adept or else?
[14:45] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: hooray, next one, kjots_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_i386.deb vs. kmail
[14:46] <joey__> adept but i tried apt-get also and no go. I'll check the source.list now
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> knusperfrosch: known, the fix just needs to be applied to the ppa packages
[14:46] <Mamarok> joey__: once your lines are ok, you can type the following in your konsole:
[14:46] <JontheEchidna> things are a little bit crazy since everybody's at the developer's summit though
[14:47] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[14:47] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: hmm k, so i can't do anything about that one?
[14:47] <JontheEchidna> --force-overwrite, like before
[14:47] <BluesKaj> kmail in kde4.2 is just getting too silly , not connecting properly to the server kept getting pw errors so I switched back to thunderbird
[14:48] <joey__> this is whats in the source list deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[14:48] <ikonia> JuJuBee: yup
[14:48] <kr8> watsup?
[14:48] <ikonia> JuJuBee: all good
[14:48] <JuJuBee> Thanks.
[14:48] <Mamarok> joey__: ok
[14:48] <Mamarok> no preceeding # I hope :)
[14:49] <joey__> no Manarok there is not
[14:50] <JuJuBee> Anybody know what to do about the screen fliker with intrepid and Nvidia GeForce 8600?
[14:50] <kr8> My name is Andrew:)
[14:50] <JuJuBee> ikonia: would it suffice for me to block port 667 from my students?
[14:51] <kr8> Hallo
[14:52] <kr8> i am 24
[14:54] <knusperfrosch> anyone else with screwed icons? had it in 4.1.3 and in 4.2-beta1. looks like my settings are messed up?
[14:54] <Mamarok> knusperfrosch: screwed where?
[14:55] <knusperfrosch> Mamarok: eg kickoff. the icon is the rewind button
[14:55] <Ryunix> is it recommended to have a file which doesnt belong to root, in usr/local/games ?
[14:55] <knusperfrosch> Nakkel: kickoff->leave all icons are the same "computer with kubuntu logo on the screen"
[14:55] <knusperfrosch> Nakkel: sry
[14:56] <JuJuBee> ikonia: sorry, I meant to ask if it would suffice for me to block port 6667?  TCP or UDP?
[14:56] <joey__> Manarok apt-get saw it and was able to install it but adapt can't see the reps but its install now and working thanks.
[14:57] <Mamarok> knusperfrosch: looks ok for me, but the icons in the system tray are borked
[14:57] <Mamarok> joey__: you're welcome :)
[14:57] <Mamarok> joey__: usre apt-get or aptitude then, as adept is not very user friendly IMHO
[14:58] <Mamarok> joey__: and my nick is Mamarok, not Manarok
[14:58] <Mamarok> use tab completion :)
[14:58] <pcfreak_> is there a guide out there, how to safely backup kmail and all settings? I just setup everything and want to make sure I can theoretically reinstall my machine tomorrow without loosing anything
[14:58] <wallabee> Everytime i open a program... i.e. firefox  the window looks like a bunch of distorted color lines and hangs for a second then i get a nice clean firefox( or whatever window) is there a way to correct this ?? or is this just how kubuntu behaves??
[14:59] <joey__> opps Im sorry ok ill will use  the others
[14:59] <pcfreak_> wallabee: that are the new optical features of kde4 I think
[14:59] <BluesKaj> wallabee, kubuntu 8.10 ?
[14:59] <wallabee> pcfreak: yes 8.10
[15:00] <knusperfrosch> are icons cached anywhere?
[15:00] <wallabee> pcfreak: so it is supposed to do that or there is an error with the optical feature?
[15:02] <wallabee> pcfreak: i tried browsing through my appearence settings just to seen if there was some effect that it might be trying and just not able to do that well but i didnt really find anything that would effect the opening of the window
[15:03] <knusperfrosch> whohoo shiny shiny 4.2 :)
[15:04] <arkygeek_> what can i expect to happen if i enable backports and then dist-upgrade?
[15:22] <wallabee> i must say the support on this channel is far from that on the ubuntu channel... just sayin
[15:22] <faileas> arkygeek_: not much other than having everything updated with the backports repo
[15:23] <nikola_> Is this new version of KDE always this slow?
[15:24] <wallabee> how slow?
[15:24] <nikola_> Awfully slow...
[15:24] <nikola_> The previous KDE 3.5 was very, very fast for me :)
[15:25] <nikola_> This new KDE 4 is killing me...
[15:25] <arkygeek_> nikola_: perhaps you should use 3.5 :-)
[15:25] <arkygeek_> nikola_: what are your system specs?
[15:26] <wallabee> i think 4 still a little buggy but it runs pretty smooth on my system
[15:26] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: kde-nightly runs *very* smooth here
[15:26] <SSJ_GZ> Certain combinations of nvidia cards and drivers can kill performance.
[15:27] <Mamarok> :)
[15:27] <nikola_> arkygeek: i don't have a clue, i just bought this new laptop, but vista worked faster than KDE 4 (when the system was loaded)
[15:27] <nikola_> And Graphics sometimes glitch alot.
[15:27] <arkygeek_> maybe you should try the restricted driver for your video card?
[15:28] <nikola_> I tried that, it won't enable it, dunno why tho.
[15:28] <nikola_> Im using ATI series
[15:28] <arkygeek_> ahhh
[15:28] <arkygeek_> that was happening to me
[15:28] <wallabee> how can one go about getting such a driver
[15:28] <arkygeek_> make sure you have an internet connection before you try to enable it
[15:28] <wallabee> when i search it says no proprietary driver in use
[15:29] <nikola_> ohhhh
[15:29] <nikola_> why didn't anyone say that i must have internet to enable?! lol
[15:29] <arkygeek_> actually, i am *still having problems here too!
[15:29] <nikola_> oh lol
[15:29] <wallabee> enable this in adept??
[15:29] <toby> kbluetooth4 doesn't show up in my system tray. does it show up in anyone elses?
[15:30] <toby> *kdebluetooth
[15:30] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: i go to system>drivers and it shows up, but when i try to activate it, it is not bringing up the download driver
[15:30] <nikola_> TOby: bluetooth as in a "wireless" bluetooth or the one that you have USB/
[15:30] <nikola_> ?
[15:30] <toby> I have a USB bluetooth adapter (worked in Gutsy KDE3)
[15:31] <nikola_> Hmm...
[15:32] <nikola_> Put in the adapter into USB sticking thing (  i dunno how it's called on english lol) and restart system with it in
[15:32] <toby> nikola_: Socket?
[15:32] <nikola_> EIther that, or wait for the next Kubuntu release.
[15:32] <toby> :D
[15:32] <nikola_> toby: lol yea
[15:33] <toby> I thought it was something to do with the system tray perhaps. Running it from konsole generates no errors
[15:33] <toby> I just can't get to the GUI
[15:33] <nikola_> I can't either... :(
[15:34] <toby> Oh, well that's reassuring - thanks for confirming that
[15:34] <nikola_> lol, no problem :P
[15:34] <toby> I'll check in proposed updates for it...
[15:34] <nikola_> toby: I use the wireless one
[15:34] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: you talk about wich driver?
[15:34]  * arkygeek_ reports that after restarting his system, ensuring he had internet connectivity, and only then activating the restricted driver did it download and install...
[15:34] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: ati
[15:34] <arkygeek_> for radeon x300se
[15:35] <Mamarok> ok
[15:35] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: so it works now?
[15:35] <arkygeek_> dont know yet.
[15:35] <nikola_> lol
[15:35] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: ok, this happened last time as well.... kmix fatal error sigabrt
[15:36] <Mamarok> strange
[15:37] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: if you haven't started X yet, no wonder btw, kmix is a gui tool
[15:37] <arkygeek_> i *have started x   i am in kde
[15:37] <nikola_> Anyone know how i can install Unetbootin in Ubuntu/Kubuntu? :O
[15:38] <arkygeek_> Mamarok: http://rafb.net/p/EZGjDW55.html
[15:39]  * arkygeek_ is rebooting to see if the new restricted driver works
[15:39] <Mamarok> arkygeek_: this backtrace is useless, you haven't installed the -dbg packages
[15:40] <arkygeek_> sorry. it was the best i had.  i wan't anticipating it
[15:40] <arkygeek_> on the plus side, kdm_greet hasn't locked up this time :P
[15:42] <knusperfrosch> is there a gpgsm/kleopatra howto for 8.10? can't figure out how to import a crl
[15:42] <nikola_> This KDE is better... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_3
[15:43] <nikola_> but i can't wait for KDE 5 :P
[15:43] <knusperfrosch> nikola_: in the meantime figure out how to import a crl on 8.10 and encrypt a message.
[15:44] <Mamarok> nikola_: you might have to wait a very long time I'd say :)
[15:44] <nikola_> Oh, ok.
[15:44] <nikola_> :D
[15:45] <nikola_> Wat is CRL btw?
[15:46] <nikola_> And, to encrypt a message in Kubuntu 8.10, you must use encrypting software :P
[15:46] <faileas> nikola_: download the unetbootin deb for *bubtu, run it with gdebi, and reboot
[15:47] <nikola_> faileas: THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! :)
[15:52] <arkygeek_> gurrrfffff\
[15:52] <arkygeek_> so i added the repos for ooo3 and did a dist-upgrade.  ooo3 installed.  but it won't run
[15:52] <arkygeek_> crashes everytime
[15:52]  * arkygeek_ wonders wt* is going on
[15:53] <nikola_> lol
[15:53] <nikola_> hmm...
[15:53] <arkygeek_> i am also getting corruption in the graphics
[15:54] <nikola_> This new Kubuntu is messed up...
[15:55] <nikola_> That is why im waiting for KDE 56 :D
[15:55] <Neku> hi im having a problem with k3b it keeps saying Cd record has no permission to open device can anyone help
[15:55] <nikola_> Neku: we all do...
[15:55] <faileas> Neku: kill any other k3b or burning app thats open
[15:55] <faileas> including the one you are on now
[15:56] <macjason0607> hey .. there any app that can read a hfs volume ?
[15:56] <Neku> its on a diff pc
[15:57] <rarfx> el cursor de mi mouse brinca a las esquias de la pantalla ¿...? alguien sabe como corregir este problema? ....
[15:57] <nikola_> Rarfx: i don't speak chinese...
[15:57] <JontheEchidna> !es | rarfx
[15:58] <rarfx> ok..
[15:58] <Neku> faileas i think that was a lame attempt at a joke one u would like to post on bas but cant as im not that retarded the problems on a different pc so i dont think if i quit irc it would make that much of a difference.......
[15:59] <nikola_> Neku, don't insult anyone.
[15:59] <moepman> how do i install grub on a kubuntu 8.10 system using lvm, as the installe used lilo which is ugly
[15:59] <nikola_> Second, he tried to help ,and three, if we knew how to fix it, we would respond!
[16:00] <Neku> nikola_. he tried to insult my intelligence
[16:00] <bazhang> Neku, he was referring to a burning app, not irc
[16:00] <dwidmann> moepman: sudo apt-get install grub ... would be a good start
[16:00] <nikola_> He tried to insult what?
[16:01] <Neku> meh
[16:01] <moepman> dwidmann: sudo grub-install /dev/sda : /dev/mapper/laptop-root does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[16:03] <faileas> neku: i was serious. i had the same issue before. i had another app having control of the burner
[16:03] <dwidmann> moepman: hmm, wonder if this is necessary: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID
 http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID
[16:03] <dwidmann> janorcutt: I win
[16:04] <nikola_> Neku: lol
[16:04] <janorcutt> lol
[16:04]  * faileas rollseyes
[16:04] <faileas> people need to learn to read ;p
[16:04] <nikola_> lolol
[16:04] <knusperfrosch> JontheEchidna: will you ship keep-kde4 with 4.2?
[16:05] <nikola_> i don't know what k3b has got to do with intell gence (is that a intel series? :O)
[16:07] <faileas> nikola_: he for some reason thought i told him to close irc, when i said k3b, including the current session of it ;p
[16:07] <ddgoose> cmake cracks me up with it's -> [111%] Built target pofiles
[16:07] <ddgoose> 111% ??
[16:07] <nikola_> faileas: oh lol
[16:08] <dwidmann> ddgoose: guess it does an extra extra special job :P
[16:08] <janorcutt> it goes that extra 11%
[16:10] <nikola_> What did the sea say to me? Nothing, it just waves.
[16:12] <moepman> dwidmann: janorcutt: doesnt help me in any way
[16:14] <genii> macjason0607: hfsutils and hfsplus. After install you need kernel driver loaded as well. Either hfs or hfsplus depending on the fs type you are trying to read.
[16:16] <mirko_> hello everyone... is the default kde on intrepid number 4?
[16:16] <nikola_> mirko: are you from Serbia?
[16:17] <bazhang> mirko_, yes
[16:17] <genii> mirko_: Yes
[16:17] <mirko_> nikola_ no I ain't... I'm from italy... why?
[16:17] <nikola_> mirko_: oh, well, your nickname is Serbian name :D
[16:18] <mirko_> bazhang, genii thank you :) but i remember in hardy it was not so well-working (last time i used it was the day before yesterday) is it better now?
[16:19] <mirko_> nikola_ and do you know what it means?
[16:19] <nikola_> Heck no, it's worst for me
[16:19] <nikola_> mirko_: no.
[16:20] <mirko_> ok... thank you anyway :) PS mirko is my real name, not just a nick :)
[16:21] <Ahmuck> can kubuntu write to NTFS volumes without damage?
[16:22] <bazhang> Ahmuck, sure
[16:22] <mirko_> Ahmuck of course :)
[16:22] <mirko_> do you like the new menus on kde4?
[16:23] <Ahmuck> i'm not using kde4
[16:23] <Ahmuck> i dumped 8.10 and went back to 8.04.1
[16:23] <nikola_> mirko_: ohhhhh
[16:24] <nikola_> Kubuntu 8.10 = pure lame stuff, Kubuntu 9.04 = pure ownage...
[16:24] <mirko_> Ahmuck why? I did it too because of my modem which is hard to get working but we solved the problem and here i am on intrepid :) (gnome anyway)
[16:25] <mirko_> don't know what lame means, don't know what ownage means :)
[16:25] <Ahmuck> 8.10 was to slow for my computer.  all the composting i suppose.  i went to ubuntu, but ubuntu was a foriegn animal to me, so i regressed
[16:26] <Ahmuck> i'm on a 2.xGhz, with 3G ram
[16:26] <faileas> nikola_: KDE 4 needs a little work ;p
[16:26] <Ahmuck> 128mb video
[16:26] <faileas> lol
[16:26]  * faileas runs it on a laptop with a built in graphics card
[16:26] <nikola_> :O
[16:26] <nikola_> lol
[16:27] <faileas> i also run it on a laptop with a 16 mb discrete and it works acceptably
[16:27] <mirko_> i see
[16:27] <Ahmuck> *shrugs*, all i know is it worked horribly for me
[16:28] <faileas> Ahmuck: in my case a bog standard r61 (centreno 2 platform, love those cause they tend to work decently)
[16:28] <nikola_> bog?
[16:28] <faileas> only major issue i have is i don't think ethernet uses
[16:28] <nikola_> Bog means god in Serbian :I
[16:29] <nikola_> :O
[16:29] <faileas> nikola_: bog standard = very common
[16:29] <faileas> *works
[16:29] <nikola_> :O
[16:29] <faileas> (english isn't my native language, nor do i think in it ;p)
[16:32] <tong> hi there , has anyone able to get diffirent wall papers for different desktop for kde4.1?
[16:34] <pteague_work> how do i get kwallet to launch on start up?  i've had it loaded a number of times when i've logged out & it's not keeping it open, even though it loads all my other programs i last had open
[16:42] <nikola_> Can anyy
[16:42] <nikola_> oops lol
[16:51] <sushiX>  if i play music with Music Player(amarok) i get sound  but with VLC dont
[16:54] <spawn57> which version of vlc is it?
[16:54] <Mamarok> spawn57: vlc --version
[16:56] <spawn57> sushiX: you probably dont' have the right settings, click tools -> preferences, -> audio and under output select ALSA
[16:57] <estres> join /#kubuntu-es
[16:59] <bopferman> Hello, I am running 8.10 and a VM of 9.04 and trying to get a weather widget working in either one.  I have wanted a weather widget for some time and done some research but couldnt get anything working.  any ideas?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> bopferman, yeah i've encountered similar probs with other widgets listed in the "Add Widgets" list that are unknown , obviously not configged for 8.10 kde4
[17:08] <bopferman> I understand, i hope there is a good weather widget by the time 4.2 is released.
[17:09] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:20] <palbuddy> help please! is there anyone who knows how I can check my external hard drive for errors?
[17:21] <faileas> palbuddy: what file system?
[17:21] <palbuddy> fat32
[17:21] <nikola_> O.o
[17:21] <palbuddy> or old windows fat something
[17:21] <nikola_> Ur kidding?
[17:21] <nikola_> THis is LInux...
[17:22] <palbuddy> yeah, I had the external HD for windows stuff nd just added to my linux computer
[17:22] <faileas> i think fsck might handle that
[17:22] <palbuddy> okay what would I type in terminal?
[17:22] <palbuddy> the problem also is it's labelled 'EXTERNAL HD' and I don't know how to make the space in terminal
[17:22] <faileas> try man dosfsck
[17:23] <faileas> you probably can use tab complete
[17:23] <faileas> or check the mountpoint
[17:24] <palbuddy> okay one sec here
[17:24] <faileas> palbuddy: cd /media/ then ls . paste the output in a pastebin
[17:24] <palbuddy> okay one sec
[17:26] <desu> actually, "sudo fdisk -l" might be a better idea to find out what device it is
[17:27] <palbuddy> okay now I'm in the external hard drive menu
[17:27] <palbuddy> how do I check for errors using dosfsck
[17:28] <desu> "sudo fsck <device>"
[17:30] <palbuddy> so like 'sudo fsck /media/EXTERNAL HD$'?
[17:30] <palbuddy> which doesn't work
[17:30] <palbuddy> hmm
[17:32] <schmidtm> palbuddy: no something like sudo fsck /dev/sdX
[17:32] <palbuddy> okay
[17:33] <palbuddy> okay it says 'e2fsck: need terminal for interactive repairs'
[17:33] <Mamarok> desu: isn't it better not to run fsck on a mounted device?
[17:33] <palbuddy> it is mounty
[17:34] <palbuddy> sorry
[17:34] <palbuddy> hah
[17:34] <palbuddy> it is mounted
[17:34] <Mamarok> but rather do it like fsck /dev/sd* ?
[17:34] <desu> Mamarok: fsck should not be run on mounted devices.... unless they're mounted read-only... which i doubt is the case ehre
[17:34] <palbuddy> okay unmounting external HD
[17:34] <desu> yeah, fsck /dev/sd??
[17:35] <Mamarok> desu: that's what I say :)
[17:35] <desu> palbuddy: it'd help us help you if you could paste the ouput of "sudo fdisk -l" to rafb.net/paste
[17:35] <palbuddy> okay I will
[17:35] <desu> Mamarok: and i never said otherwise :P
[17:35] <palbuddy> thanks for all your help!
[17:37] <palbuddy> http://rafb.net/p/KOgrMJ58.html
[17:37] <palbuddy> it's a 1 Terabyte external hard drive
[17:39] <palbuddy> running fsck
[17:42] <palbuddy> okay it's asking me this...'FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?'
[17:42] <palbuddy> uhh I don't know?!
[17:46] <palbuddy> okay well I see you guys are busy
[17:46] <master_> how can i set automatic updates?  It's annoying having to do them every day..
[17:46] <palbuddy> I'll be around in the background
[17:47] <Mamarok> palbuddy: what do you want to do with this drive?
[17:47] <Mamarok> keep it as FAT or install as ext3?
[17:47]  * Mamarok strongly suggest ext3
[17:47] <palbuddy> well if I could keep my data ext3 would be great
[17:48] <palbuddy> I already have 900 gig installed on here, and it would be a pain in the butt to reinstall everything
[17:48] <Mamarok> hm, that can't work unfortuantely, unless there is some miracle tool to convert fat to ext3 without wiping the disk
[17:48] <palbuddy> okay well here is the thing
[17:49] <palbuddy> I hear some clicking noise I'm not used to on the hard drive, the HD is less then a year old!
[17:49] <palbuddy> I just want to see if it will last another year
[17:49] <Mamarok> palbuddy: no idea, did you google for that particular brand?
[17:49] <palbuddy> yeah, I hve
[17:49] <palbuddy> have
[17:50] <Mamarok> palbuddy: why didn't you format it as ntfs? would have been a better choice for such a big disk than fat32
[17:51] <palbuddy> well I was transferring from a mac to the linux thing that I'm using right here
[17:51] <Mamarok> ah, I see
[17:51] <palbuddy> mac doesn't have a good format to transfer between them two
[17:52] <palbuddy> so I just wanted to see if the drive will last that's all
[17:52] <Mamarok> palbuddy: can it be tested with SMART?
[17:53] <palbuddy> okay how do I do that?
[17:53] <palbuddy> it's a segate HD btw
[17:54] <Mamarok> palbuddy: you need to install smartmontools first
[17:54] <palbuddy> okay one sec
[17:56] <palbuddy> uhhh sudo apt-get smartmontools?
[17:57] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[17:57] <palbuddy> okay
[17:57] <Mamarok> palbuddy: what type of HD, SCSI, IDE, SATA?
[17:58] <palbuddy> external sata
[17:58] <palbuddy> sorry usb sata I would assume
[17:58] <djklmnop> i cant get my damn wifi working on my msi wind
[17:58] <palbuddy> it's a 1-Tb external USB HD
[17:58] <djklmnop> stupid drivers
[18:00] <Mamarok> palbuddy: then type smartctl -H /dev/sdb (IIRC this was that particular disk)
[18:00] <palbuddy> ok!
[18:00] <palbuddy> smart health status ok
[18:01] <Mamarok> great, so it's unlikely you will have problems in the near future
[18:01] <Mamarok> palbuddy: sometimes the physical parts can make noises you don't have in the beginning
[18:02] <palbuddy> okay great! thanks, I'm actually a humanitarian in Romania, and ummm a new hard drive would be crazy expensive!
[18:02] <palbuddy> all my project work is thankfully backed up
[18:02] <Mamarok> palbuddy: good thing, backup often
[18:03]  * Mamarok runs rsync every day as a cron job
[18:03] <palbuddy> where are the enviromental settings under kde?  I can't seem to find it! I don't want to turn off my HD
[18:08] <SiVA_> hi
[18:09] <SiVA_> I enabled the nvidia driver, and now when I alt-tab KDE uses some kind of vista-like rip off for toggling between open applications
[18:09] <SiVA_> anyway, I think it sucks because you can't tell what's before or after the current window
[18:09] <SiVA_> so how do I tell KDE to go back to the original type of alt-tab dialog?
[18:10] <mini-man> SiVA_: systemsettings
[18:11] <mini-man> somewhere in the Desktop part is an option for specifying which effect is for what, switching windows, desktops, etc.
[18:11] <mini-man> I personally use Box switch, I also hate that "flip switch" crap :)
[18:12] <SiVA_> right.. yea, box switch is really nice.. and fast too
[18:12] <SiVA_> the flip switch would work alot better if you could see what windows are stacked to the left and right... as it is now, it's really useless
[18:12] <mini-man> plus it reminds me of vista.
[18:12]  * mini-man gags
[18:14] <SiVA_> hrm.. I'm just realizing now, that all of the switchers were turned on, which really caused my initial annoyance with it
[18:14] <SiVA_> strange that alll three would be checked by default
[18:14] <SiVA_> it was all one big blur... hah
[18:15] <mini-man> yeah that happened to me too :\
[18:15] <SiVA_> I'm using the cover and box switch combo... works out good!
[18:16] <mini-man> :)
[18:16] <mini-man> now if I could figure out why Kate refuses to remember my plugins settings... blarg
[18:23] <francisc1701> hi, everyone! this is the fifth time in a row that I resume from hibernation and the screen isn't locked -- has anyone else had this issue? (kde3)
[18:31] <francisc1701> nobody? pleeeease?
[18:32] <Mamarok> francisc1701: patience!
[18:32] <francisc1701> i know, i know....
[18:33] <wesley__> firefox really s*cks with some sites
[18:33] <Mamarok> francisc1701: depends on many factors, laptop acpi version, kde3 version, there have been many :)
[18:34] <Mamarok> francisc1701: also, it's evening in Europe and many *ubuntu folks are currently busy with UDS at Googleplex
[18:35] <francisc1701> ok
[18:39] <francisc1701> but what does the acpi version have to do with locking the screen? should it not be something in /etc/acpi/resume.d/ ?
[18:42] <Reptile> google earth 4.3 is loading but I can't see the globe
[18:42] <Reptile> anyone ?
[18:43] <robert__> how can i upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[18:43] <Reptile> Somebody talked about it earlier but I didnt take a notice then
[18:44] <robert__> i just need the newest alsa
[18:46] <Mamarok> robert__: you must change your sources.list
[18:47] <Mamarok> robert__: replace every occurence of "hardy" with "intrepid"
[18:47] <robert__> thats scary
[18:47] <Mamarok> then do apt-get update
[18:47] <Mamarok> sudo actually
[18:49] <Mamarok> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:49] <Mamarok> robert__: else, did you try to activate the backports? maybe there's a newer alsa (even if I doupt that
[18:50] <Mamarok> robert__: also, if you are currently using KDE3 you will be changed to kde4, so think well before doing that upgrade
[18:50] <robert__> well, ima go break mah system.. see ya in a few.. hopefully..
[18:51] <user6> hello....
[18:51] <Mamarok> hi
[18:52] <user6> I've installed kubuntu on old 300 mhz machine, it works so fine, but my usb key wasn't recognized....
[18:52] <suleyman> selamlar
[18:52] <user6> (hadrware trouble or driver)
[18:52] <user6> ??
[18:52] <pavati> Hello all.
[18:53] <Mamarok> user6: you mean it's not mounted automatically?
[18:53] <suleyman> türkçe bilen var mı ?
[18:53] <Mamarok> !tr | suleyman
[18:53] <user6> Mamarok: exactly...
[18:53] <suleyman> ok
[18:54] <user6> Mamarok: kubuntu version 7.10
[18:54] <Mamarok> user6: what version of Kubuntu do you use?
[18:55] <Mamarok> user6: can't remember how this worked back then, minute
[18:56] <user6> Mamarok: upgrade to 8.04 will solve the problem?
[18:56] <Mamarok> user6: you don't need to upgrade for just on usb key, no
[18:57] <Mamarok> *one
[18:57] <Mamarok> user6: I guess your usb key is vat formatted?
[19:01] <user6> Mamarok: i think yes
[19:02] <user6> Mamarok: it comes from xp software
[19:02] <user6> ehmm... xp machine
[19:05] <sebastian> is there a channel for ubuntu eee?
[19:05] <sebastian> is there a channel for ubuntu eee?
[19:08] <sebastian> is there a channel for ubuntu eee?
[19:11] <sebastian> hi i am using ubuntu eee, and my wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted
[19:11] <djklmnop> hey
[19:11] <djklmnop> im on an eee too
[19:11] <djklmnop> works for me
[19:12] <djklmnop> let me find you a link, just follow the scripts
[19:17] <pisecx> hi. i have ubuntu. installed kde with kubuntu-desktop and kde packages. in ubuntu I used proprietary manager to install drivers for wifi, everything is works excellent. does kde use the same manager or not? I couldn't see my network in the list
[19:18] <abdo> allo
[19:21] <Mamarok> user6: still here?
[19:22] <rvsgroup> hello
[19:23] <Mamarok> user6: sry, just had a netsplit
[19:26] <Mamarok> Ramblurr: you here ? :)
[19:31] <sebastian> who helped me with my wireless for ubuntu eee?
[19:31] <djklmnop_> me
[19:31] <djklmnop_> whattap
[19:32] <sebastian> well it still dont work hehe
[19:32] <djklmnop_> weird
[19:32] <sebastian> now it just keeps grey not even 1 green
[19:32] <djklmnop_> uninstall ubuntu and install the full version
[19:32] <djklmnop_> :D
[19:32] <sebastian> can u give me the link to the info u showed me?
[19:32] <djklmnop_> sure
[19:32] <djklmnop_> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly
[19:32] <sebastian> i had it, but it had no driver for my  lan or wireless
[19:32] <sebastian> thx :)
[19:34] <sebastian> no i cant even start my wireless :O
[19:34] <sebastian> any way to roll this back?
[19:36] <djklmnop_> no idea
[19:36] <djklmnop_> im new to ubuntu too
[19:38] <sebastian> ok
[19:38] <sebastian> i need to restart
[19:39] <sebastian> thx for the help anyway
[19:39] <sebastian> cya :)
[19:41] <francisc1701> can I get rid of dolphin without breaking anything?
[19:42] <Mamarok> francisc1701: why would you do that?
[19:44] <francisc1701> well, I prefer konqueror as my file manager and I don't want dolphin to open every cd/dvd I insert
[19:45] <Mamarok> francisc1701: are you using kde4?
[19:45] <francisc1701> kde3
[19:45] <Mamarok> ok, then just uninstall it, you can't in kde4 though
[19:46] <Mamarok> in KDE4 dolphin is used by konqueror for the file managing part
[19:46] <francisc1701> shiny
[19:46] <Mamarok> francisc1701: or just try to get used to, it will be default in KDE4 :)
[19:46]  * Mamarok loves Dolphin
[19:47]  * francisc1701 loves Konqueror :)
[19:47] <francisc1701> but am I going to use kde4? not as long as I can use kde3
[19:51] <Kovert> Can some one tell me with the new KDE and RSSNOW I receive no feeds
[19:54] <francisc1701> thank you, Mamarok, dolphin is gone and konqueror took over.
[19:54] <Mamarok> francisc1701: you're welcome :)
[19:57] <Kovert> Can some one tell me with the new KDE and RSSNOW why I receive no feeds
[19:57] <Kovert> is any one getting feeds?
[20:00] <wesley__> You mean that plasmoid ?
[20:02] <bibigon> Ребята,всем привет!
[20:02] <bibigon> У меня такой вопрос
[20:03] <Mamarok> !ru | bibigon
[20:03] <guest__> hello room, question, if my harddrive is already partitioned, would it affect the two operating systems if I partitioned it again, without reinstalling them???
[20:04] <Mamarok> guest__: you can resize partitions without wiping them, yes
[20:05] <Mamarok> if there is still space left
[20:05] <Kovert> wesley__: Yes
[20:05] <BlueEagle> guest__: However some operating system do not use unique identifiers for the partitions and if you insert a pertition in front of one it might cause confusion.
[20:05] <Kozeris> I have 1 hdd with WinXp, i bought one more for [k]ubuntu, so how install it for that i  can choose which OS load, and if i want i could disconnect ubuntu, and then no menu appear and xp loads
[20:05] <Kozeris> its somehting to  configure linux disk, for that opop up table with choose, and if no that hdd then no table for OS
 I have installed ubuntu server
[20:05] <guest__> Mamarok: yes there is, thank you
[20:05] <wesley__> You can use akregator
[20:06] <guest__> BlueEagle: I was thinking of partitioning my xp portion of the harddrive
[20:07] <BlueEagle> Kozeris: I would assume you set the boot order to linux-disk, windows-disk and have grub installed on the linux disk. If you disconnect it the pc should failover to the windows disk and read windows' boot loader there.
[20:07] <BlueEagle> guest__: If you put a partition infront of windows XP then it will definetly not be happy,
[20:08] <BlueEagle> guest__: However if you insert a partition between your windows partition and linux partition then grub will most likely not be happy either.
[20:08] <guest__> ok partitioning aside, I have another question, which is the most STABLE updated release of kubuntu out there that is working fine that I can upgrade from dapper-drake??
[20:08] <BlueEagle> guest__: But that's just a matter of changing the grub config.
[20:08] <BlueEagle> ...and re-installing it to the mbr I guess.
[20:09] <Kovert> wesley__: buT i WANT TO USE THE PLKAZMOID
[20:09] <guest__> BlueEagle: thanks, I'll probably just reinstall windows xp
[20:09] <Kovert> sorry caps
[20:09] <Kovert> plazmoid
[20:09] <Mamarok> guest__: try Hardy
[20:10] <guest__> everyone agrees that Hardy is the next best thing?? :)
[20:11] <pavati> Yes
[20:12] <guest__> Thanks ppl, you've all been helpful!! :-D
[20:13] <BlueEagle> guest__: Well it might work as long as the partition in front of XP isn't ntfs or fat32. But windows 9x had to write data to the very first partition iirc.
[20:16] <wesley__> is raptor menu not in kde 4.2?
[20:21] <gkffjck> is there a way to change the color theme and appearance of kde3 applications from inside of kde4? or at all, in 8.10?
[20:22] <Thetetsu> Hello, I accidentally deleted the drivers for my video card and now when
[20:22] <Thetetsu>  I turn on the pc ubuntu part in dos mode type of windows, what should I do? (sto
[20:22] <Thetetsu>  chatting with the version of cd) Thanks
[20:22] <val_> hi all. i have open avant and cairo together and i cant close or hide them?
[20:24] <val_> is anyway i can close cairo dock avant toolbar or the bottom toolbar?
[20:24] <val_> or just hide them
[20:37] <francisc1701> isn't this weird? 4390 MB in various files written on a DVD-R using an lg hl-dt-st dvdram GSA-T20L drive. the first ~250 MB were written at 2x; ~250 - ~1800 MB - 4x; ~1800 - ~3500 MB - 6.10x; ~3500 - end - 8.10x
[20:37] <francisc1701> hope that makes sense
[20:41] <arran> anyone know of a tool that analyzes the disk and tells you what dir/files is taking up space?
[20:42] <Mamarok> arran: filelight, with a graphical display
[20:43] <arran> thanks
[20:44] <jedix> hey
[20:44] <jedix> I have an issue with the 4.2 alpha that I think is a package issue..
[20:44] <jedix> kwin dies saying that the decoration plugin is corrupt
[20:46] <jedix> I mean 4.2 beta
[20:46] <Mamarok> jedix: welcome to beta hell :)
[20:47] <Mamarok> jedix: try kde-nightly, it's less buggy
[20:47] <jedix> Mamarok: have an apt for that?
[20:47] <jedix> a source listing
[20:51] <jedix> I should not have gone to beta on this computer.
[20:52] <jedix> Mamarok: ping?
[20:53] <ubuntu_> vxcv
[21:02] <Mamarok> jedix: sry, afk
[21:02] <Mamarok> jedix: there is a repository you need, moment
[21:04] <Mamarok> jedix: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu/ intrepid main
[21:05]  * Mamarok is off to bed, working tomorrow
[21:06] <jedix> Mamarok: thanks, I'll try that.
[21:16] <admin__> hi there
[21:16] <admin__> i need some help with irc server
[21:17] <cockneysean> ??
[21:17] <cockneysean> hello?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> finally back to normal ...I hope
[21:30] <Kransac> Salut
[21:34] <Bou> mouhaha
[21:34] <Bou> KFind says: "Ready. One file found"
[21:34] <Bou> displaying a blank list
[21:34] <Bou> =)
[21:43] <Kovert> any one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?
[21:43] <drif> anyone has experience with xmove (pseudo X)?
[21:47] <rogan> www.blogpirate.org
[21:54] <Aizawa> How do I restore defaults on the desktop settings?
[21:54] <Aizawa> Specifically the color settings
[22:00] <DeviantPeer> hi all.
[22:00] <Kransac> hi
[22:00] <DeviantPeer> I've been trying to install the ati binary drivers on my laptop (with kubuntu intrepid)
[22:00] <DeviantPeer> but I'm having a bit of a problem... The aticonfig segfaults
[22:01] <Dein> can anyone tell me where could I find kde3.5 to download?
[22:03] <macjason0607> will this work http://paste.ubuntu.com/83168/ < ---
[22:15] <phix> :\
[22:15] <phix> Any one here?
[22:16] <phix> where is alsaconf? it doesn't seem to be in alsa-util or alsa-base
[22:17] <faichele> Use the package search on debian.org
[22:17] <faichele> You can search by filename there.
[22:17] <phix> faichele: it comes in alsa-util in debian
[22:26] <jimmybondo> I am having an issue after upgrading using kubuntu-experimental ppa with kmail crashing. bug filed at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177294 any ideas?
[22:29] <edi_99> Hi guys, what's the apt command that installs smthng so that applets and other similar stuff work?
[22:30] <trappist> edi_99: if you mean java applets...
[22:30] <trappist> !java
[22:30] <trappist> if by similar stuff you mean flash...
[22:30] <trappist> !flash
[22:33] <phix> hmmm
[22:34] <phix> still don't have a working sound card :\
[22:34] <phix> any one know how to get a Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio working?
[22:35] <crimsun> please run the http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh script.
[22:36] <Nick_Meister> hello guys i am trying to run blender but i find myself unable to use the alt key
[22:36] <Nick_Meister> its like its been reserved by the os
[22:39] <Kovert> any one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?
[22:42] <phix> crimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3642b6198aebb97543fbfa7b7160290b7be426a5
[22:42] <Nick_Meister> ok it seems alt +click == move window
[22:42] <Nick_Meister> but i cant figure out how to change that to something else
[22:42] <Nick_Meister> in the keyboard settings it says
[22:42] <phix> Nick_Meister: alt+left mouse drag
[22:42] <Nick_Meister> that its nothin
[22:42] <Nick_Meister> phix, how do i turn that off?
[22:43] <Nick_Meister> its intefering with my blender
[22:43] <Nick_Meister> lol
[22:43] <phix> blender?
[22:43] <Nick_Meister> the 3d software
[22:43] <Nick_Meister> alt + drag == rotate
[22:43] <phix> Nick_Meister: I don;t know, it is normal behaviour
[22:43] <Eddie_AW> hi, my root part is full, if I use a livecd to resize it will I be ok?
[22:44] <Nick_Meister> phix,  i know its normal i want to get rid of it
[22:44] <phix> Nick_Meister: oh, not sure sorry
[22:44] <Nick_Meister> :(
[22:46] <phix> Nick_Meister: :( :(
[22:47] <TheTetsu> my ubuntu I do not longer see the desktop and restart when I am starting as the dos mode of windows that do?
[22:48] <Nick_Meister> phix, i found it thanks anyways
[22:49] <TheTetsu> help me
[22:49] <TheTetsu> my kubuntu I do not longer see the desktop and restart when I am starting as the dos mode of windows that do?
[22:50] <Kovert> TheTetsu: If I understood your question
[22:50] <Kovert> any one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?
[22:50] <phix> crimsun: http://rafb.net/p/ijLNl197.html
[22:50] <crimsun> phix: thanks, looking in a sec
[22:50] <|COM|Styx> hai
[22:50] <|COM|Styx> im having trouble with httpd
[22:51] <|COM|Styx> its giving me 2.2kb of nulls for a file when i try to dl it
[22:51] <Kovert> ? installed ssh?
[22:51] <phix> thnx crimsun :D
[22:51] <|COM|Styx> me?
[22:51] <Kovert> yah
[22:51] <|COM|Styx> no
[22:51] <Kovert> !ssh
[22:52] <|COM|Styx> its only on the other comp
[22:52] <|COM|Styx> wait can i automatically get files with ssh?
[22:52] <Kovert> if you are running ssh then the client side can use ir
[22:52] <|COM|Styx> i mean without installing a server
[22:53] <Kovert> you can use sftp
[22:53] <Kovert> !sftp
[22:53] <|COM|Styx> is there a server with kubuntu?
[22:53] <Kovert> or !wscp
[22:53] <Kovert> apache
[22:54] <Kovert> any one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?
[22:54] <rlovejoy> Hey - quick question, maybe someone can help?  How do I set a static IP using Intrepid (Kubuntu)?
[22:54] <crimsun> phix: ping me if copper (or anyone in #alsa) doesn't resolve it
[22:54] <bmageors> hey has anyone noticed when you login to a tty consol and logout the system still shows you logged in to that tty.
[22:55] <Kovert> rlovejoy: click on the green bubble on the lower rioght corner
[22:55] <crimsun> phix: I'm in sessions now, so I may not be available for a couple hours
[22:55] <moj0rising> rlovejoy: try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[22:55] <phix> crimsun: ok, that is fine :) Thank you for your interest so far
[22:55] <Kovert> or click on the green bubble
[22:55] <rlovejoy> yeah, i did that, and set up a new connection... it didn't change anything.  I'll try that link - thanks.
[22:55] <moj0rising> not sure what you mean by a new connection
[22:56] <PSiL0> !ktorrent
[22:56] <moj0rising> you need to edit that network script to get static ip
[22:56] <moj0rising> back-up the old one first
[22:57] <bmageors> this bug seems to be in all
[22:58] <rlovejoy> clicked on the green globe and an option under that is New Connection --> eth0
[22:59] <rlovejoy> moj0 - then reboot, or ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0?
[22:59] <Kovert> yup
[22:59] <rlovejoy> sry - i'll just read that link u gave me
[23:04] <bmageors> hey has anyone noticed when you login to a tty consol and logout the system still shows you logged in to that tty. how do you fix this bug?..
[23:10] <jhutchins_wk> bmageors: WHere are you seeing that you're still logged in?
[23:10] <bmageors> in a terminal using the finger or 'w' command
[23:11] <bmageors> also the command 'uptime' show the same info
[23:12] <jhutchins_wk> bmageors: Well, clearly if you're logged in to issue the command... are you saying you still see an extra session?
[23:12] <bmageors> yes. showing using that tty in idle
[23:13] <jhutchins_wk> Hm, mine clears (but I'm on a different distro).
[23:14] <bmageors> so like if I do a cotrol,alt,f1 use that tty and logout aqnd go back in x using a terminal you can see the user is still logged in
[23:14] <bmageors> hmmm ok... hahah I've notice this is freespire too
[23:15] <bmageors> and 8.10
[23:16] <bmageors> thanks for the reply jhutchins_wk
[23:20] <knis> hahaha
[23:21] <knis> wtf
[23:24] <nysin> Is there a handy place to find (without either making a VM or screwing around with a spare computer) the initial Kubuntu 8.10 64-bit installed package list?
[23:30] <niels_> bonsoir
[23:30] <Pici> !fr
[23:30] <niels_> sorry
[23:32] <omer> Li vir kesekê kurd heye?
[23:43] <fabio> hi may I ask about kde4.2-beta1
[23:44] <fabio> strigi always not running in system setting
[23:46] <fabio> thankyoi
[23:54] <djklmnop> hi
[23:57] <moj0rising> hello
[23:58] <dr_willis> Hmm