[01:37] <DanaG> Hmm, is fglrx broken for everyone, or is it just me?
[01:37] <DanaG> I've had to switch to radeon or radeonhd (and can't decide which of the two is better).
[01:42] <DanaG> It's irritating having two equivalent things to choose between, and no idea of what the practical (as in, for the user) differences are.
[01:43] <DanaG> (restarted finch in screen)
[01:55] <DanaG>  unable to handle keycode 465
[01:56] <DanaG> argh... I get that when I hit one of my hotkeys.
[01:56] <X1karr0usX> yo
[01:57] <nand> yo
[01:57] <X1karr0usX> whats goin on in the discussion for 904?
[01:57] <nand> see http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[01:58] <X1karr0usX> awesome dude... thanks!
[01:59] <genii> Have they decided on a "K" name yet?
[01:59] <DanaG> I wouldn't mind radeon or radeonhd so much if they'd at least put the GPU in low-speed mode.
[01:59] <X1karr0usX> klepto kangaroo
[01:59] <X1karr0usX> idk... this one blows lol
[02:00] <X1karr0usX> they should talk about that at the summit
[02:00] <genii> Kaleidoscopic Koala ...
[02:01] <X1karr0usX> seriously?
[02:01] <DanaG> hmm, for some reason I just thought of some creature called a 'kappa'
[02:02] <X1karr0usX> lol
[02:03] <genii> Damn the summit is in Mountain View CA.
[02:03] <DanaG> I wish the ATI drivers would work.  :(
[02:03] <X1karr0usX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[02:03] <X1karr0usX> yeah
[02:04] <X1karr0usX> i wish i got more out of my intel driver
[02:06] <genii> After looking at the name list I'm partial now to "Kooky Kitten"
[02:07] <X1karr0usX> lol
[02:07] <X1karr0usX> im partial to cutting myself
[02:07] <rww> !o4o
[02:07] <DanaG> I have an RV635 card -- and the R600 series don't do 3D in radeon or radeonhd.
[02:08] <X1karr0usX> lol
[02:08] <rww> I kinda like Kinetic Kittie :D
[02:08] <genii> rww: That one's catchy too
[02:10] <DanaG> I'm fine with not having 3D -- but I don't like how my battery life is divided by three, or so, under Linux when compared to Windows.
[02:11] <DanaG> It's probably due to lack of GPU power savings.
[02:11] <X1karr0usX> yeah
[02:12] <DanaG> I wish it would at least put the GPU in the slowest mode, if it's not going to use it for much, anyway.
[02:12] <DanaG> According to ATI Tray Tools in Windows (which I'm not sure is correct), it drops down to like 14MHz GPU and RAM speeds when sitting at the desktop.
[02:13] <DanaG> 3D speed is like 500 or 600 or so.
[02:18] <DanaG> Grr, I wish fglrx worked... then I could play Neverball with my nifty accelerometer.
[02:24] <DanaG> Switched to Pidgin now.
[02:30] <DanaG> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipunji
[02:31] <DanaG> spiffy.  it's a K, and it's from somewhere in Africa (I think).
[02:32] <DanaG> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klipspringer    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kori_Bustard
[03:27] <murlidhar> what is the mail address that i was given to stay update with the news regarding jaunty  ?
[04:03] <DanaG> grargh, undefined symbol: firegl_querymcrange
[05:07] <DanaG> I fixed fglrx, by downgrading merely one package: libdrm2.
[05:07] <DanaG> I fixed fglrx, by downgrading merely one package: libdrm2.
[05:07] <DanaG> er, sorry
[05:15] <teratoma> does Jaunty Jackalope have support for two monitors, with one monitor rotated 90 degrees ?
[05:23] <histo> doesn't intrepid?
[05:23] <histo> what type of video card do you  have?
[05:29] <teratoma> intel
[05:30] <teratoma> the screen resolution offers:  Normal and Reversed
[05:30] <teratoma> no left or right
[05:50] <RAOF> DanaG: You might want to file a bug; check whether rebuilding fglrx against the shiny new libdrm works?
[07:05] <derekS> ls
[12:23] <BUGabundo> calc: ping
[13:01] <prahal_> hi has anybody got suspend to ram working under jaunty ? hal thhrow me consolekit error and fails to suspend (while echo "mem" > /sys/power/state works)
[13:03] <prahal_> I am trying to track the bug : if it is a consolekit issue or otherwise . Having reports by other users that it is supposed to work would help me a lot
[13:11] <prahal_> http://pastebin.com/f6c1faa9f is the hal output . I ll send it as is to the bug tracker if I cannot get more feedback from other users .(
[13:29] <BUGabundo> prahal_: it used to work for me
[13:41] <prahal_> BUGabundo, hum I wonder if those consolekit warnings explains the rc=1 instead of rc=0 for /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend ... ccould you check with hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes (after  /etc/init.d/hal )? sorry to ask you so much consolekit was my only clue and if suspend ever worked in jaunty this one is moot
[13:42] <BUGabundo_work> don't know either prahal_
[13:44] <prahal_> ok thanks ... I ll do my best to get this one resolved
[13:47] <BUGabundo> I find it always very strange
[13:47] <BUGabundo> why some times hibernation/suspend works great
[13:47] <BUGabundo> and the next week it fails
[13:47] <BUGabundo> and I have my own backtrace on shutdown to figure out!!!
[13:47] <BUGabundo> its hard to do it, after the disk is off
[16:58] <calc> BUGabundo_work: hello
[16:59] <BUGabundo_work> hi there calc
[16:59] <BUGabundo_work> did you read my mail on LP about OOo backport?
[17:00] <calc> BUGabundo_work: just followed up to it the jaunty debs just haven't been compiled yet due to waiting on the bug 305790 not being processed yet
[17:00] <BUGabundo_work> ah ok
[17:01] <calc> primarily due to everyone being at FOSSCamp/UDS for the past week (until this Friday) I'm here too
[17:01] <BUGabundo_work> 'cause I only manage to get ũbutnu6 package
[17:01] <BUGabundo_work> by removing old ~2 I had installed
[17:01] <BUGabundo_work> and inslaing the PPA ibex version
[17:01] <calc> yea, it should be installable by early next week i would imagine, assuming no one processes the packages until then
[17:02] <calc> brb
[17:04] <calc> back
[17:04] <calc> i lost the foot off my laptop, luckily it was on the bottom of my shoe, lol
[17:05] <BUGabundo_work> ehehe
[17:17] <BUGabundo_work> going to university. hope you guys enjoy UDS
[17:21] <calc> BUGabundo_work: ttyl
[18:00] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, I installed jaunty alpha-1 and then applied all upgrades. Is it just my impression, or is the latest xorg extremely slow, especially with compiz but also normally?
[18:00] <Le-Chuck_ITA> in particular, scrolling in lyx with previews on is a real pita
[18:09] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nobody around :)
[18:09] <Le-Chuck_ITA> bye all
[20:02] <prahal_> ok I found the culprit for suspend not working with jaunty on eeepc 900. pm-utils . Any idea how to debug pm-suspend (pm-utils) . The one in intrepid works so it is not a kernel module issue
[20:03] <prahal_> I mean just downgrading pm-utils in jaunty fix the issue
[20:04] <BUGabundo> prahal_: there is a wiki page telling you how to debug it!
[20:04] <BUGabundo> and filling an intial bug is also good, cause it stays in the Dev radar
[20:04] <BUGabundo> or for other ppl to find it
[20:06] <prahal_> argh I read the doc provided with the package ... my bad . I just hope it is not like the offline doc . Telling you how to force a module unload (as I tested it is not related) or how to disable specific hooks (without any debugging output from pm-utils telling what s wrong). Thanks
[20:36] <tretle> is anyone working on monodevelop 2.0 packages for jaunty yet?
[20:53] <jafa> debugging... is it possible to get the system to log a stack backtrace when an application crashes?
[20:54] <jafa> by default it seems to log only the ip and sp to /var/log/messages
[20:56] <charlie-tca> jafa: I think it depends on the application. There is some information here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[21:07] <jafa> charlie-tca: thanks for the link. I am running the app in gdb but it isn't ideal. This is a custom internet-facing server app that SEGFAULTs every few days. Normally a separate watchdog detects the crash and restarts to minimize downtime. Stopping in gdb adds to the downtime. I was thinking an automatic stack backtrace log would give more information without burning the disk space of a coredump
[21:08] <charlie-tca> np. I try to help when I can
[21:38] <emilien> ok iv booted 8.10 live cd and its asking me for password and id but its a live cd ... ?
[21:39] <stdin> emilien: try user name "ubuntu" and blank password
[21:40] <emilien> stdin: nope
[21:41] <stdin> well the default user name of the LiveCD is "ubuntu" and that user has no password, if it's not working then it's a bug
[21:41] <emilien> stdin; i have a /home from last ubuntu install could be causing conflict ?
[21:42] <charlie-tca> Perhaps intrepid and blank
[21:42] <stdin> the LiveCD doesn't mount the hard disk
[21:42] <charlie-tca> or let it countdown, it is a 10 second count
[21:44] <emilien> not count down can't see numbers , could be cd defect =( ?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> Might be, I had one do that, and a reboot fixed it.
[21:45] <emilien> iv already burned 4 cd today can't seem to get it right always different erro
[21:46]  * charlie-tca hates when that happens
[21:46]  * charlie-tca went through 10 one day, 2 burners were bad
[21:49] <emilien> could be hope not , they are both pretty old
[21:52] <emilien> i think il just send off for cd , i live in paris will not take to long ?
[22:10] <prahal_> argh I found out the cullprit for jaunty pm-suspend not working. /var/log/pm-suspend.log is what I was looking after ... there is a new clock hook tat fails as I (and I have not found yet if anybody else have found how to ) don't have the kernel clock interface working for eeepc .
[22:12] <emilien> ok thanks sent off for cd . thanks for your help
[22:28] <DanielRM> Anyone here using mpd with Jaunty?
[22:34] <burner> anyone around who can help me get a background picture for nautilus back?  I'm not sure why it's gone away
[22:34] <burner> if I drag a color from the "backgrounds and emblems" menu, it works
[22:35] <burner> but if I drag a pattern, it shows that pattern for a moment and then changes to an all white background.  my icons stay present the whole time
[22:42] <aboucher> how can i start testing jaunty
[22:45] <charlie-tca> burner: is that in Jaunty or Intrepid?
[22:45] <charlie-tca> Might have more luck on #ubuntu
[22:45] <rww> aboucher: do you have intrepid installed and want to upgrade it to jaunty?
[22:46] <aboucher> now i want to test jaunty in a vm
[22:46] <aboucher> i mean no
[22:46] <rww> aboucher: okay. Go get the Jaunty Alpha 1 CD from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-1/ . It should install in VirtualBox just fine
[22:48] <prahal_> burner, take a look at ~/.xsession-errors and if it is truncated (because too big) try pkill nautilus && nautilus ... it takes care of the background
[22:48] <prahal_> maybe an error will shows up
[22:51] <burner> charlie-tca: jaunty.  prahal_: i'm checking
[22:52] <aboucher> what version of linux is jaunty?
[22:52] <rww> aboucher: 9.04
[22:52] <rww> aboucher: wait, you mean what version of the linux kernel does it use?
[22:52] <aboucher> yes
[22:53] <rww> aboucher: 2.6.28-2
[22:53] <aboucher> thanks
[22:53] <burner> nothing in .xsession-errors unfortunately.  this is so weird
[22:54] <burner> my nautilus respects the color selection... be it solid, gradient or whatever, but I still get nothing as far as a png or jpg goes
[22:58] <aboucher> !JauntyJackelope
[22:58] <aboucher> !JauntyJackalope
[22:59] <aboucher> !rootkits
[22:59] <aboucher> !VirtualBox
[22:59] <rww> !jaunty | aboucher
[22:59] <aboucher> !hardy
[22:59] <aboucher> !intrepid
[23:01] <rww> aboucher: might be better if you do /msg ubottu !factoid instead of saying !factoid in channel. Ubottu's quite happy to have a private conversation, and it means that everyone else doesn't get your investigative messages :)