[01:37] Hmm, is fglrx broken for everyone, or is it just me? [01:37] I've had to switch to radeon or radeonhd (and can't decide which of the two is better). [01:42] It's irritating having two equivalent things to choose between, and no idea of what the practical (as in, for the user) differences are. === elpargo__ is now known as elpargo [01:43] (restarted finch in screen) [01:55] unable to handle keycode 465 [01:56] argh... I get that when I hit one of my hotkeys. [01:56] yo [01:57] yo [01:57] whats goin on in the discussion for 904? [01:57] see http://summit.ubuntu.com/ [01:58] awesome dude... thanks! [01:59] Have they decided on a "K" name yet? [01:59] I wouldn't mind radeon or radeonhd so much if they'd at least put the GPU in low-speed mode. [01:59] klepto kangaroo [01:59] idk... this one blows lol [02:00] they should talk about that at the summit [02:00] Kaleidoscopic Koala ... [02:01] seriously? [02:01] hmm, for some reason I just thought of some creature called a 'kappa' [02:02] lol [02:03] Damn the summit is in Mountain View CA. [02:03] I wish the ATI drivers would work. :( [02:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames [02:03] yeah [02:04] i wish i got more out of my intel driver [02:06] After looking at the name list I'm partial now to "Kooky Kitten" [02:07] lol [02:07] im partial to cutting myself [02:07] !o4o [02:07] Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu+1. Controversial topics, which often turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) [02:07] I have an RV635 card -- and the R600 series don't do 3D in radeon or radeonhd. [02:08] lol [02:08] I kinda like Kinetic Kittie :D [02:08] rww: That one's catchy too [02:10] I'm fine with not having 3D -- but I don't like how my battery life is divided by three, or so, under Linux when compared to Windows. [02:11] It's probably due to lack of GPU power savings. [02:11] yeah [02:12] I wish it would at least put the GPU in the slowest mode, if it's not going to use it for much, anyway. [02:12] According to ATI Tray Tools in Windows (which I'm not sure is correct), it drops down to like 14MHz GPU and RAM speeds when sitting at the desktop. [02:13] 3D speed is like 500 or 600 or so. [02:18] Grr, I wish fglrx worked... then I could play Neverball with my nifty accelerometer. [02:24] Switched to Pidgin now. [02:30] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipunji [02:31] spiffy. it's a K, and it's from somewhere in Africa (I think). [02:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klipspringer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kori_Bustard === burner1 is now known as burner [03:27] what is the mail address that i was given to stay update with the news regarding jaunty ? === bipolar_ is now known as bipolar [04:03] grargh, undefined symbol: firegl_querymcrange [05:07] I fixed fglrx, by downgrading merely one package: libdrm2. [05:07] I fixed fglrx, by downgrading merely one package: libdrm2. [05:07] er, sorry [05:15] does Jaunty Jackalope have support for two monitors, with one monitor rotated 90 degrees ? [05:23] doesn't intrepid? [05:23] what type of video card do you have? [05:29] intel [05:30] the screen resolution offers: Normal and Reversed [05:30] no left or right [05:50] DanaG: You might want to file a bug; check whether rebuilding fglrx against the shiny new libdrm works? [07:05] ls === PriceChild is now known as PriceChi1d === PriceChi1d is now known as PriceChild [12:23] calc: ping [13:01] hi has anybody got suspend to ram working under jaunty ? hal thhrow me consolekit error and fails to suspend (while echo "mem" > /sys/power/state works) [13:03] I am trying to track the bug : if it is a consolekit issue or otherwise . Having reports by other users that it is supposed to work would help me a lot [13:11] http://pastebin.com/f6c1faa9f is the hal output . I ll send it as is to the bug tracker if I cannot get more feedback from other users .( [13:29] prahal_: it used to work for me [13:41] BUGabundo, hum I wonder if those consolekit warnings explains the rc=1 instead of rc=0 for /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend ... ccould you check with hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes (after /etc/init.d/hal )? sorry to ask you so much consolekit was my only clue and if suspend ever worked in jaunty this one is moot [13:42] don't know either prahal_ [13:44] ok thanks ... I ll do my best to get this one resolved [13:47] I find it always very strange [13:47] why some times hibernation/suspend works great [13:47] and the next week it fails [13:47] and I have my own backtrace on shutdown to figure out!!! [13:47] its hard to do it, after the disk is off === _veloc1ty is now known as veloc1ty === geser__ is now known as geser === veloc1ty is now known as veloc1tyF === veloc1tyF is now known as veloc1ty [16:58] BUGabundo_work: hello [16:59] hi there calc [16:59] did you read my mail on LP about OOo backport? [17:00] BUGabundo_work: just followed up to it the jaunty debs just haven't been compiled yet due to waiting on the bug 305790 not being processed yet [17:00] Launchpad bug 305790 in backport-util-concurrent "MIR - move to main for openoffice.org 3 build-depends" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305790 [17:00] ah ok [17:01] primarily due to everyone being at FOSSCamp/UDS for the past week (until this Friday) I'm here too [17:01] 'cause I only manage to get ũbutnu6 package [17:01] by removing old ~2 I had installed [17:01] and inslaing the PPA ibex version [17:01] yea, it should be installable by early next week i would imagine, assuming no one processes the packages until then [17:02] brb [17:04] back [17:04] i lost the foot off my laptop, luckily it was on the bottom of my shoe, lol [17:05] ehehe [17:17] going to university. hope you guys enjoy UDS [17:21] BUGabundo_work: ttyl [18:00] Hi there, I installed jaunty alpha-1 and then applied all upgrades. Is it just my impression, or is the latest xorg extremely slow, especially with compiz but also normally? [18:00] in particular, scrolling in lyx with previews on is a real pita [18:09] nobody around :) [18:09] bye all === dickydoo2 is now known as WelshDragon [20:02] ok I found the culprit for suspend not working with jaunty on eeepc 900. pm-utils . Any idea how to debug pm-suspend (pm-utils) . The one in intrepid works so it is not a kernel module issue [20:03] I mean just downgrading pm-utils in jaunty fix the issue [20:04] prahal_: there is a wiki page telling you how to debug it! [20:04] and filling an intial bug is also good, cause it stays in the Dev radar [20:04] or for other ppl to find it [20:06] argh I read the doc provided with the package ... my bad . I just hope it is not like the offline doc . Telling you how to force a module unload (as I tested it is not related) or how to disable specific hooks (without any debugging output from pm-utils telling what s wrong). Thanks === bipolar_ is now known as bipolar === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [20:36] is anyone working on monodevelop 2.0 packages for jaunty yet? === rww is now known as rwwyan === rwwyan is now known as ryannn === ryannn is now known as rww [20:53] debugging... is it possible to get the system to log a stack backtrace when an application crashes? [20:54] by default it seems to log only the ip and sp to /var/log/messages [20:56] jafa: I think it depends on the application. There is some information here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [21:07] charlie-tca: thanks for the link. I am running the app in gdb but it isn't ideal. This is a custom internet-facing server app that SEGFAULTs every few days. Normally a separate watchdog detects the crash and restarts to minimize downtime. Stopping in gdb adds to the downtime. I was thinking an automatic stack backtrace log would give more information without burning the disk space of a coredump [21:08] np. I try to help when I can [21:38] ok iv booted 8.10 live cd and its asking me for password and id but its a live cd ... ? [21:39] emilien: try user name "ubuntu" and blank password [21:40] stdin: nope [21:41] well the default user name of the LiveCD is "ubuntu" and that user has no password, if it's not working then it's a bug [21:41] stdin; i have a /home from last ubuntu install could be causing conflict ? [21:42] Perhaps intrepid and blank [21:42] the LiveCD doesn't mount the hard disk [21:42] or let it countdown, it is a 10 second count [21:44] not count down can't see numbers , could be cd defect =( ? [21:44] Might be, I had one do that, and a reboot fixed it. [21:45] iv already burned 4 cd today can't seem to get it right always different erro [21:46] * charlie-tca hates when that happens [21:46] * charlie-tca went through 10 one day, 2 burners were bad [21:49] could be hope not , they are both pretty old [21:52] i think il just send off for cd , i live in paris will not take to long ? [22:10] argh I found out the cullprit for jaunty pm-suspend not working. /var/log/pm-suspend.log is what I was looking after ... there is a new clock hook tat fails as I (and I have not found yet if anybody else have found how to ) don't have the kernel clock interface working for eeepc . [22:12] ok thanks sent off for cd . thanks for your help [22:28] Anyone here using mpd with Jaunty? === burner1 is now known as burner [22:34] anyone around who can help me get a background picture for nautilus back? I'm not sure why it's gone away [22:34] if I drag a color from the "backgrounds and emblems" menu, it works [22:35] but if I drag a pattern, it shows that pattern for a moment and then changes to an all white background. my icons stay present the whole time [22:42] how can i start testing jaunty [22:45] burner: is that in Jaunty or Intrepid? [22:45] Might have more luck on #ubuntu [22:45] aboucher: do you have intrepid installed and want to upgrade it to jaunty? [22:46] now i want to test jaunty in a vm [22:46] i mean no [22:46] aboucher: okay. Go get the Jaunty Alpha 1 CD from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-1/ . It should install in VirtualBox just fine [22:48] burner, take a look at ~/.xsession-errors and if it is truncated (because too big) try pkill nautilus && nautilus ... it takes care of the background [22:48] maybe an error will shows up [22:51] charlie-tca: jaunty. prahal_: i'm checking [22:52] what version of linux is jaunty? [22:52] aboucher: 9.04 [22:52] aboucher: wait, you mean what version of the linux kernel does it use? [22:52] yes [22:53] aboucher: 2.6.28-2 [22:53] thanks [22:53] nothing in .xsession-errors unfortunately. this is so weird [22:54] my nautilus respects the color selection... be it solid, gradient or whatever, but I still get nothing as far as a png or jpg goes [22:58] !JauntyJackelope [22:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about JauntyJackelope [22:58] !JauntyJackalope [22:58] Sorry, I don't know anything about JauntyJackalope [22:59] !rootkits [22:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkits [22:59] !VirtualBox [22:59] virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [22:59] !jaunty | aboucher [22:59] aboucher: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion. [22:59] !hardy [22:59] Ubuntu 8.04-LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details. [22:59] !intrepid [22:59] Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is the current release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 [23:01] aboucher: might be better if you do /msg ubottu !factoid instead of saying !factoid in channel. Ubottu's quite happy to have a private conversation, and it means that everyone else doesn't get your investigative messages :) === DrUnKnMuNkY1 is now known as DrUnKnMuNkY