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bmmI tried to archive my package again, but got the same Error. Could somebody try to archive http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ccbuild00:16
bmmErrors I get (and got) are: http://pastebin.com/m207e57e and http://pastebin.com/m26f8da7000:18
bmmGood luck to the developers!00:18
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bddebianmok0: For some reason any of my mails directly to you keep bouncing01:10
lifelesshttp://www.gnunux.info/rss2irc/rss2irc.py-17.09.0501:42
TetracommHello.02:38
TetracommWhat is the status of the Ubuntu shutdown bug?02:38
jdongTHE ubuntu shutdown bug...02:39
emgenthehe02:42
copprowhat is THE Ubuntu shutdown BUG?02:43
Tetracommlol.02:43
coppro(serious question btw)02:43
jdongand how DARE you not have that TACOM status report now?02:43
jdongCOMSEPAC will be reporting here any minute now02:43
TetracommI see a cursor on the screen when I press the shut down button and it doesn't do anything.02:43
jdongis this bug reported?02:43
TetracommA while after press the button, rather.02:43
Elbruscan a package be triggered to rebuild on a single platform?04:56
Elbruswinff failed to build, because lazarus was not yet build up-to-date on sparc.04:57
NCommanderElbrus, build record active04:59
NCommanderit should build sometime soon04:59
Elbrusok04:59
Elbrusthanks04:59
* Elbrus should put the version dependency on lazarus instead of fpc05:01
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lifelessajmitch: ping06:51
ajmitchlifeless: pong07:31
pmjdebruijngood morning07:52
pmjdebruijnI've packaged a library for automatic (digital) camera lens distortion correction... called lensfun... anybody care to take a look: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=lensfun07:53
whiteanyone using iceweasel 3 and kgtk?08:22
whitei am wondering, why my file picker doesn't show my storage devices, but apparently it works under normal debian lenny :/08:23
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mgdmcan you add more than one --othermirror option to pbuilder?09:40
mgdmOh, ignore me09:41
mgdmwhat does "$PACKAGE does not have a source override entry" mean, as a response from dput?10:54
handschuhmgdm: the upload is not successful?11:00
mgdmhandschuh: yeah, I'm just trying to send a package to my local repo, and it fails with that error, which has surprisingly low results on Google :)11:02
handschuhmgdm: can you pastebin your source.changes?11:03
mgdmI can, though it's not actually mine, as such - I'm compiling a package originally designed for Intrepid on Hardy11:03
mgdmhttp://pastebin.com/m11c7f519, with apologies to pmjdebruijn11:04
handschuhmgdm: have you done something like this before?11:07
mgdmYou'd be as well to consider me to be an utter newbie - I'm doing this as a learning exercise11:07
handschuhmgdm: and you are trying to get this into your ppa?11:08
mgdmNot a PPA, just a local package archive on this machien11:08
mgdmerr, machine11:08
mgdmthe archive is using mini-dinstall11:09
handschuhmgdm: maybe you should use a ppa (so that we can exclude solcal configuration errors)11:09
mgdmok11:10
joaopintomgdm, is that error return during the dput operation, the upload fails ?11:12
mgdmjoaopinto: yeah11:12
mgdmusing "dput -u local lensfun*.changes"11:12
joaopintoerm11:12
joaopintoyou need to use _source.changes11:12
joaopintonot the other binary changes files11:13
mgdmah...11:13
joaopintousing a PPA would not make a difference, dput is just an upload tool, he is not aware of whatever build process you have in place11:13
mgdmThere is actually only one changes file (lensfun_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes)11:13
joaopintomgdm, that was generated with debuild -S -sa ?11:15
mgdmyep11:15
Laneymini-dinstall doesn't do building11:16
Laneyso you actually do need to use the binary changes11:16
joaopintoLaney, and how does dput know he is going to use mini-dinstall during an upload ?11:17
mgdmit's in ~/.dput.cf11:18
joaopintoah :P11:18
Laneyjoaopinto: It doesn't, which is why the user needs to know to give dput the binary changes11:18
mgdmI was using pbuilder to build the binaries11:19
joaopintook, so there is something on the dput.cf describing that a binary upload is required11:19
mgdmbut they've magically wandered off, rebuilding now :)11:19
pmjdebruijnmgdm: eh?11:20
mgdmpmjdebruijn: I've been abusing one of your packages as practice... ignore me if you want :)11:20
pmjdebruijnoh11:20
pmjdebruijnmgdm: I have recompiled stuff for Intrepid ready to go11:20
pmjdebruijnmgdm: doesn't lensfun build for you then?11:21
mgdmlensfun builds fine, even on Hardy11:21
mgdmit's the apt archive bit I'm having bother with11:21
mgdm(this isn't yet an intrepid box)11:21
pmjdebruijnmgdm: you need to modify ufraw for lensfun... --with-lensfun...11:22
mgdmthat was going to be next if I got this bit working11:22
pmjdebruijnmgdm: I have examples sources on ubuntu.pcode.nl/ubuntu/11:23
mgdmthat's where I borrowed this one from11:24
pmjdebruijnmgdm: for lensfun? anyway the sources on revu are "better"11:24
mgdmI'll give those a try then11:25
pmjdebruijnmgdm: once lensfun gets accepted... I'll look into getting ufraw lensfun enabled in jaunty11:26
mgdmthat would be awesome11:26
mgdmI'd be interested in helping with that kind of thing, and enblend, hugin, etc11:28
pmjdebruijnmgdm: those are already packaged, no?11:36
mgdmyes, but if they need a hand...11:37
pmjdebruijnoh?11:38
* Laney eyes LP11:39
pmjdebruijnmgdm: I actually hope Udi will release a UFRaw 0.14.2 soon... 0.14.1 doesn't support the Canon 50D and Nikon D9011:39
pmjdebruijnwhich are very popular11:39
mgdmDo they have new variations on their file formats?11:40
pmjdebruijnmgdm: I guess11:40
pmjdebruijnmgdm: I don't really care, it just needs to work11:41
pmjdebruijnmgdm: I think it had to do with pixel ordering11:41
pmjdebruijnmgdm: so you could open files, but the blue and green colors would be switched or something like that11:42
mgdmAh11:42
pmjdebruijnmgdm: probably trivial changes...11:42
mgdmhere's hoping11:42
pmjdebruijnbut I'll need some reviews... (hint hint http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=lensfun )11:44
mgdmI'm going to take my laptop in this afternoon and upgrade it to Intrepid so I can use your packages11:45
pmjdebruijnmgdm: good :)11:45
mgdmI'm still going to try to "backport" them to Hardy, of course, for fun :)11:45
pmjdebruijnmgdm: just take to sources and rebuild... should be as easy as that11:46
mgdmit rebuilds fine, though I think I had to change something in debian/changelog to get it to build for the right disto11:47
pmjdebruijnmgdm: just add an entry above mine...11:47
mgdmthat's what I did11:49
mgdmI'm just having trouble making the apt repo so that I can use pbuilder to make ufraw too11:49
pmjdebruijnmgdm: oh, I don't do everything in pbuilder11:50
pmjdebruijnmgdm: especially if it's for the distro I'm currently running11:50
pmjdebruijnmgdm: it's not as clean11:50
pmjdebruijnbut for personal use it works11:50
pmjdebruijnmgdm: http://ubuntu.pcode.nl/debrepo.sh ?11:50
pmjdebruijnmgdm: that a quick and dirty way to build repos11:50
mgdmcool11:51
mgdmI'll give that a try11:51
* pmjdebruijn needs to read up on that as well11:51
slytherinany python experts here?12:31
* POX points slytherin to #debian-python @ OFTC12:31
slytherinPOX: My question is not that specific to Debian/Ubuntu python.12:32
POXthen to #python :P12:32
POXbut even there nobody will probably answer if you don't ask the question :P12:33
POX(i.e. not the "can I ask a question?" question)12:33
slytherin:-)12:35
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mok0slangasek: ping14:02
liwmok0, it's 6:15 in the morning where he is, so he may be asleep14:16
mok0liw: ah, yes. I would :-)14:16
mok0liw: anyways I figured out what I wanted to ask14:17
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bddebianHeya gang15:33
ScottK-laptopHeya bddebian.15:41
bddebianHi ScottK-laptop15:42
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geserHi bddebian16:02
bddebianHeya geser16:04
logari81hi, I have already read the /UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages stuff and as far as I understood, in order to get my application: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfshuffler in universe I just have to file a bug requesting its packaging16:44
logari81As I have already packaged it here https://launchpad.net/~logari81/+archive I suppose it will help to include this link in the bug report16:44
azeemif you have already packaged it, and want to maintain it in Ubuntu, you can upload it to REVU for reviewing and sponsoring16:45
azeemprobably you should/must still file a needs-packaging bug,  not sure16:45
* logari81 is reading about REVU16:46
RainCTazeem: yep, needs-packaging is still requires, unless they decided otherwise at UDS :P16:48
RainCT*required16:48
lifelessRainCT: we haven't16:48
lifelessRainCT: I mean, it still seems entirely redundant to me, but $shrug16:48
jpdsRainCT: Go read the gobby notes we did on it.16:50
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DktrKranzsiretart: re debian 508276, I have already reported it as debian 507973 (together with patch). These can be merged.16:52
ubottuDebian bug 508276 in boxbackup "Re: [ubuntu/jaunty] boxbackup 0.11~rc2-4ubuntu1 (Accepted)" [Unknown,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/50827616:52
ubottuDebian bug 507973 in boxbackup "boxbackup: Please build-depend on docbook-xml" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/50797316:52
RainCTjpds: yeh, I've seen them16:52
RainCTbut forgot what I read :P16:53
jpdsPity.16:53
logari81thus my summary:16:57
logari811. I file a needs-packaging bug16:57
logari812. I alter my changelog to point to the LP#16:57
logari813. I register to REVU16:57
logari814. I upload my package to REVU just as I did for my ppa16:57
logari815. I wait for 2 motus to advocate16:57
logari81is that right?16:58
RainCTjpds: how is it there at Google?16:58
RainCTlogari81: Yes. Registering with REVU is basically just logging in, though ;)16:58
jpdsRainCT: Ah, great. Loads of free food and stuff.16:59
logari81oh nice16:59
RainCT\o/ - evil school and not having a laptop :/  (until christmas :))17:00
jpdsRainCT: Best part is meeting everyone tho.17:01
* RainCT goes to fill the gobby docs with spam :P17:01
lifelessNCommander: I have a revu issue17:02
lifelessNCommander: I don't seem able to advocate17:02
jpdslifeless: Look for a "Merge" button near the top of the homepage.17:03
lifelessjpds: yes?17:03
RainCTlifeless: I've just given you reviewer rights (a few minutes ago)17:03
NCommanderlifeless, have you merged your REVU accounts?17:03
lifelessNCommander: no, don't recall the email I used, nor my old password17:03
lifelessRainCT: ah thanks!17:04
NCommanderlifeless, fair enough17:04
RainCTlifeless: wgrant asked in #ubuntuwire. I told him he should tell you to do the "i wanna revu privs" dance and record it in exchange ^^17:04
lifelessRainCT: :>17:05
ScottKjdong: I'm looking at: http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/status/release/stable-backports and thinking something like that would be nice ....18:01
leonelscottK where can we get the data ??18:18
ScottKleonel: Dunno.18:19
paulproteusIf I'm already a Debian Maintainer, what process should I go through to become a MOTU?18:38
paulproteusI currently do all my Ubuntu contributions through my work in Debian, since it flows into Ubuntu.  But I'm interested in becoming a MOTU so I can join the Ubuntu Backports team.18:39
pmjdebruijnpaulproteus: I'm not a MOTU, but it might to useful, to maybe supply a link to your work for Debian?18:40
paulproteushttp://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=asheesh@asheesh.org18:41
pochupaulproteus: do you need to be a MOTU to be a backporter?18:45
paulproteusTo be able to upload directly to the ubuntu-backports repository, apparently yes.18:45
paulproteusI'm reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports currently.18:46
paulproteusMost of what I want to backport are my own packages from Debian.18:47
jdongScottK: that would be great18:47
paulproteusBut also some desktop apps too, from time to time.18:48
ScottKpaulproteus: Becoming a MOTU is both about technical capability and trust from the community.  Youre Debian experience certainly helps.  The best way is to jump right in and find some useful work to do.18:55
pmjdebruijnin a .install file, for a library, do I need to include both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 ?19:03
jdongirssi FAIL. What good is netsplit detection when I get 4 separate Netsplit over messages?19:04
jdong5.19:05
keesheya paulproteus19:05
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paulproteusHey kees!19:13
paulproteusYou at UDS?19:13
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Hobbseepaulproteus: (he is)19:16
paulproteusCool (-:19:16
paulproteusScottK, Cool, thanks.19:18
paulproteusI'm in San Francisco, WAY up north from you guys. (-:19:18
pochupaulproteus: way east from me :(19:19
keespaulproteus: I am, yeah :)19:33
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fabrice_spHi. Somebody with some spare time to review dvdstyler (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler)? Thanks!19:44
maheshhello everybody19:56
maheshi want to join motu team19:57
maheshhelp19:57
Picimahesh: Patience... UDS is this week so this channel isn't as active as it normally is.19:57
jdongand the rest of us are crying over final exams....19:58
jdongI hate school19:58
lagahigh school?19:58
leoneland some wishing being  in cancun ..19:58
jdongcollege. undergrade19:58
jdongerr, undergrad.19:58
jdongthe former is probably true too given my test scores.19:58
maheshpici>> ok19:59
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* Laney herds some cats20:34
meoblast001hi20:41
meoblast001i have a compiling error which i believe may be a result of the packaging of xulrunner20:41
meoblast001http://rafb.net/p/QYqyQd25.html20:41
meoblast001all i did to that was change instances in the configure script of mozilla-nspr and mozilla-xpcom to xulrunner-nspr and xulrunner-xpcom20:42
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ScottKmeoblast001: For mozilla specific packaging questions you might have more luck in #ubuntu-mozillateam20:56
meoblast001k20:56
LaneySomeone give me something to do.21:17
LaneyI haven't uploaded anything in a while, and feel guilty21:17
jdongLaney: look at the diff between Intrepid and Jaunty VLC21:18
Laneyjust look at it?21:18
jdongLaney: i'm considering bringing 0.9.8a to Intrepid{-updates,-proposed} as a SRU + security  fix combo21:18
jdongI want to know if there's anything outrageously intrusively changed to make that a stupid idea21:18
Laney    *   0.9.4-1ubuntu3 to 0.9.8a-1ubuntu1  (2.6 MiB)21:18
* Laney dies21:18
jdongwell a lot of what will probably be autoconf cruft21:19
crimsunyay for filterdiff(1)21:19
Laneyah yes, so it is21:19
Laneyvlc's changelogs are the worst21:26
jdongLaney: their fanbase isn't much better.21:27
LaneyHow do you mean?21:27
jdongLaney: idealistically I really just want to track upstream releases and say "take it and like it or ELSE"21:27
jdong(for VLC, that is)21:28
LaneyYou mean in *-updates?21:28
jdongLaney: correct21:29
Laneymm, I can see why the shady security history makes that attractive21:29
jdongLaney: and bug history in general; I'd rather just track the 0.9.x branch21:30
jdongLaney: I mean what's for certain is our current "stay 0.9.4 and nobody wants to touch it with a 10-foot pole" approach is lose.21:30
LaneySo what we really want is a better upstream release approach21:30
jdongI propose tracking 0.9.x in -updates and if someone wants to backport security fixes in -security then go for it21:31
jdongwell, in a way yes.21:31
jdongupstream doesn't do TOO badly with security updates in their 0.9 branch in general21:31
LaneyI'm thinking like GNOME (but probably without time-based releases)21:31
jdonglol we can wish, can't we?21:32
Laneypipe dreams...21:32
jdongbut VLC is an end user app used primarily by media geeks21:32
jdongmost of the users want the latest version anyway21:32
jdongand it's pretty nontrivial to build oneself to the latest version too21:32
LaneyPPA!21:32
Laneyor backports I guess21:33
jdongyeah backports is absolutely one possible solution for this21:33
Laneyanyway, I'd say go for it in -updates, from looking at NEWS. The "new feature" isn't really that much of a feature.21:33
jdongthat tends to be the case in VLC's 0.0.x releases21:34
LaneyBut I see it's on depwait..21:34
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bugfixeshello all22:30
RainCThi22:30
bugfixes:) too late night at UTC?22:31
bugfixesis there any senior MOTU member here?22:32
meoblast001why dont i have static gtk libraries?22:33
RAOFmeoblast001: Why would you expect static gtk libraries?22:45
meoblast001nvm... problem found22:45
meoblast001i was using --prefix=/usr/local so it couldnt ifnd anything22:45
crimsunbugfixes: "senior MOTU member"? :-)22:50
bugfixescrimsum: i wanna ask some question about MOTU and revu22:52
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ScottK-laptop!ask | bugfixes22:53
ubottubugfixes: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:53
bugfixessorry! :)22:55
ScottK-laptopNo trouble, just ask already if you have a question.22:56
bugfixesi would like to include a new package to motu, here is the url http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tcpproxy22:56
ScottK-laptopSo you'd like someone to review your package?22:57
bugfixesyes!22:57
Laneymok0: Am I right in thinking you took all ubuntu changes in gtkglarea?22:59
bugfixesthis is my first try! want to package some other package after i know the whole process!22:59
bugfixes!ask22:59
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:59
bugfixesScottK-laptop: yes i would like someone to review my package23:05
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Laneymok0: Never mind, looks like you did. I'll request the sync23:15
Laneyafter testing ofc23:15
Laneyhuats: !!! I have been looking for you23:15
huatshey Laney !23:16
huatsI know why you are looking for me23:16
huatscurrently I am at the UDS23:16
Laney:P23:16
LaneyI just wanted to hassle you23:16
Laneyoh!23:16
huatsI'll tackle the package right now (I mean today/tomorrow)23:17
LaneyOK23:17
huatsand I'll ping directly the sponsors ;)23:17
LaneyI'll let you off23:17
huatsno pb23:17
Laneyif23:17
huatsthanks23:17
LaneyIF!23:17
huatsand don't worry I won't let you don't :)23:17
Laneyyou buy james_w a beer from me23:17
Laneyfor being a great sponsor23:18
Laneymuhahah23:18
huatsI will :)23:18
Laney\o/23:19
Laneydidrocks: Yo, mind if I check out if goocanvas can be synced back into Jaunty? Thanks for reporting the bug btw23:21
LaneyCrap, requestsync went crazy23:34
Laneyreported the sync bug 5 times23:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 5 in rosetta "Plone Placeless Translation Service metadata missing from po files" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523:34
mok0Laney: yes I did take care of them; there should be no reason to maintain a special ubuntu version anymore23:59

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