[00:16] <bmm> I tried to archive my package again, but got the same Error. Could somebody try to archive http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ccbuild
[00:18] <bmm> Errors I get (and got) are: http://pastebin.com/m207e57e and http://pastebin.com/m26f8da70
[00:18] <bmm> Good luck to the developers!
[01:10] <bddebian> mok0: For some reason any of my mails directly to you keep bouncing
[01:42] <lifeless> http://www.gnunux.info/rss2irc/rss2irc.py-17.09.05
[02:38] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[02:38] <Tetracomm> What is the status of the Ubuntu shutdown bug?
[02:39] <jdong> THE ubuntu shutdown bug...
[02:42] <emgent> hehe
[02:43] <coppro> what is THE Ubuntu shutdown BUG?
[02:43] <Tetracomm> lol.
[02:43] <coppro> (serious question btw)
[02:43] <jdong> and how DARE you not have that TACOM status report now?
[02:43] <jdong> COMSEPAC will be reporting here any minute now
[02:43] <Tetracomm> I see a cursor on the screen when I press the shut down button and it doesn't do anything.
[02:43] <jdong> is this bug reported?
[02:43] <Tetracomm> A while after press the button, rather.
[04:56] <Elbrus> can a package be triggered to rebuild on a single platform?
[04:57] <Elbrus> winff failed to build, because lazarus was not yet build up-to-date on sparc.
[04:59] <NCommander> Elbrus, build record active
[04:59] <NCommander> it should build sometime soon
[04:59] <Elbrus> ok
[04:59] <Elbrus> thanks
[05:01]  * Elbrus should put the version dependency on lazarus instead of fpc
[06:51] <lifeless> ajmitch: ping
[07:31] <ajmitch> lifeless: pong
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> good morning
[07:53] <pmjdebruijn> I've packaged a library for automatic (digital) camera lens distortion correction... called lensfun... anybody care to take a look: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=lensfun
[08:22] <white> anyone using iceweasel 3 and kgtk?
[08:23] <white> i am wondering, why my file picker doesn't show my storage devices, but apparently it works under normal debian lenny :/
[09:40] <mgdm> can you add more than one --othermirror option to pbuilder?
[09:41] <mgdm> Oh, ignore me
[10:54] <mgdm> what does "$PACKAGE does not have a source override entry" mean, as a response from dput?
[11:00] <handschuh> mgdm: the upload is not successful?
[11:02] <mgdm> handschuh: yeah, I'm just trying to send a package to my local repo, and it fails with that error, which has surprisingly low results on Google :)
[11:03] <handschuh> mgdm: can you pastebin your source.changes?
[11:03] <mgdm> I can, though it's not actually mine, as such - I'm compiling a package originally designed for Intrepid on Hardy
[11:04] <mgdm> http://pastebin.com/m11c7f519, with apologies to pmjdebruijn
[11:07] <handschuh> mgdm: have you done something like this before?
[11:07] <mgdm> You'd be as well to consider me to be an utter newbie - I'm doing this as a learning exercise
[11:08] <handschuh> mgdm: and you are trying to get this into your ppa?
[11:08] <mgdm> Not a PPA, just a local package archive on this machien
[11:08] <mgdm> err, machine
[11:09] <mgdm> the archive is using mini-dinstall
[11:09] <handschuh> mgdm: maybe you should use a ppa (so that we can exclude solcal configuration errors)
[11:10] <mgdm> ok
[11:12] <joaopinto> mgdm, is that error return during the dput operation, the upload fails ?
[11:12] <mgdm> joaopinto: yeah
[11:12] <mgdm> using "dput -u local lensfun*.changes"
[11:12] <joaopinto> erm
[11:12] <joaopinto> you need to use _source.changes
[11:13] <joaopinto> not the other binary changes files
[11:13] <mgdm> ah...
[11:13] <joaopinto> using a PPA would not make a difference, dput is just an upload tool, he is not aware of whatever build process you have in place
[11:13] <mgdm> There is actually only one changes file (lensfun_0.2.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes)
[11:15] <joaopinto> mgdm, that was generated with debuild -S -sa ?
[11:15] <mgdm> yep
[11:16] <Laney> mini-dinstall doesn't do building
[11:16] <Laney> so you actually do need to use the binary changes
[11:17] <joaopinto> Laney, and how does dput know he is going to use mini-dinstall during an upload ?
[11:18] <mgdm> it's in ~/.dput.cf
[11:18] <joaopinto> ah :P
[11:18] <Laney> joaopinto: It doesn't, which is why the user needs to know to give dput the binary changes
[11:19] <mgdm> I was using pbuilder to build the binaries
[11:19] <joaopinto> ok, so there is something on the dput.cf describing that a binary upload is required
[11:19] <mgdm> but they've magically wandered off, rebuilding now :)
[11:20] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: eh?
[11:20] <mgdm> pmjdebruijn: I've been abusing one of your packages as practice... ignore me if you want :)
[11:20] <pmjdebruijn> oh
[11:20] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: I have recompiled stuff for Intrepid ready to go
[11:21] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: doesn't lensfun build for you then?
[11:21] <mgdm> lensfun builds fine, even on Hardy
[11:21] <mgdm> it's the apt archive bit I'm having bother with
[11:21] <mgdm> (this isn't yet an intrepid box)
[11:22] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: you need to modify ufraw for lensfun... --with-lensfun...
[11:22] <mgdm> that was going to be next if I got this bit working
[11:23] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: I have examples sources on ubuntu.pcode.nl/ubuntu/
[11:24] <mgdm> that's where I borrowed this one from
[11:24] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: for lensfun? anyway the sources on revu are "better"
[11:25] <mgdm> I'll give those a try then
[11:26] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: once lensfun gets accepted... I'll look into getting ufraw lensfun enabled in jaunty
[11:26] <mgdm> that would be awesome
[11:28] <mgdm> I'd be interested in helping with that kind of thing, and enblend, hugin, etc
[11:36] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: those are already packaged, no?
[11:37] <mgdm> yes, but if they need a hand...
[11:38] <pmjdebruijn> oh?
[11:39]  * Laney eyes LP
[11:39] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: I actually hope Udi will release a UFRaw 0.14.2 soon... 0.14.1 doesn't support the Canon 50D and Nikon D90
[11:39] <pmjdebruijn> which are very popular
[11:40] <mgdm> Do they have new variations on their file formats?
[11:40] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: I guess
[11:41] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: I don't really care, it just needs to work
[11:41] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: I think it had to do with pixel ordering
[11:42] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: so you could open files, but the blue and green colors would be switched or something like that
[11:42] <mgdm> Ah
[11:42] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: probably trivial changes...
[11:42] <mgdm> here's hoping
[11:44] <pmjdebruijn> but I'll need some reviews... (hint hint http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=lensfun )
[11:45] <mgdm> I'm going to take my laptop in this afternoon and upgrade it to Intrepid so I can use your packages
[11:45] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: good :)
[11:45] <mgdm> I'm still going to try to "backport" them to Hardy, of course, for fun :)
[11:46] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: just take to sources and rebuild... should be as easy as that
[11:47] <mgdm> it rebuilds fine, though I think I had to change something in debian/changelog to get it to build for the right disto
[11:47] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: just add an entry above mine...
[11:49] <mgdm> that's what I did
[11:49] <mgdm> I'm just having trouble making the apt repo so that I can use pbuilder to make ufraw too
[11:50] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: oh, I don't do everything in pbuilder
[11:50] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: especially if it's for the distro I'm currently running
[11:50] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: it's not as clean
[11:50] <pmjdebruijn> but for personal use it works
[11:50] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: http://ubuntu.pcode.nl/debrepo.sh ?
[11:50] <pmjdebruijn> mgdm: that a quick and dirty way to build repos
[11:51] <mgdm> cool
[11:51] <mgdm> I'll give that a try
[11:51]  * pmjdebruijn needs to read up on that as well
[12:31] <slytherin> any python experts here?
[12:31]  * POX points slytherin to #debian-python @ OFTC
[12:32] <slytherin> POX: My question is not that specific to Debian/Ubuntu python.
[12:32] <POX> then to #python :P
[12:33] <POX> but even there nobody will probably answer if you don't ask the question :P
[12:33] <POX> (i.e. not the "can I ask a question?" question)
[12:35] <slytherin> :-)
[14:02] <mok0> slangasek: ping
[14:16] <liw> mok0, it's 6:15 in the morning where he is, so he may be asleep
[14:16] <mok0> liw: ah, yes. I would :-)
[14:17] <mok0> liw: anyways I figured out what I wanted to ask
[15:33] <bddebian> Heya gang
[15:41] <ScottK-laptop> Heya bddebian.
[15:42] <bddebian> Hi ScottK-laptop
[16:02] <geser> Hi bddebian
[16:04] <bddebian> Heya geser
[16:44] <logari81> hi, I have already read the /UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages stuff and as far as I understood, in order to get my application: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfshuffler in universe I just have to file a bug requesting its packaging
[16:44] <logari81> As I have already packaged it here https://launchpad.net/~logari81/+archive I suppose it will help to include this link in the bug report
[16:45] <azeem> if you have already packaged it, and want to maintain it in Ubuntu, you can upload it to REVU for reviewing and sponsoring
[16:45] <azeem> probably you should/must still file a needs-packaging bug,  not sure
[16:46]  * logari81 is reading about REVU
[16:48] <RainCT> azeem: yep, needs-packaging is still requires, unless they decided otherwise at UDS :P
[16:48] <RainCT> *required
[16:48] <lifeless> RainCT: we haven't
[16:48] <lifeless> RainCT: I mean, it still seems entirely redundant to me, but $shrug
[16:50] <jpds> RainCT: Go read the gobby notes we did on it.
[16:52] <DktrKranz> siretart: re debian 508276, I have already reported it as debian 507973 (together with patch). These can be merged.
[16:52] <RainCT> jpds: yeh, I've seen them
[16:53] <RainCT> but forgot what I read :P
[16:53] <jpds> Pity.
[16:57] <logari81> thus my summary:
[16:57] <logari81> 1. I file a needs-packaging bug
[16:57] <logari81> 2. I alter my changelog to point to the LP#
[16:57] <logari81> 3. I register to REVU
[16:57] <logari81> 4. I upload my package to REVU just as I did for my ppa
[16:57] <logari81> 5. I wait for 2 motus to advocate
[16:58] <logari81> is that right?
[16:58] <RainCT> jpds: how is it there at Google?
[16:58] <RainCT> logari81: Yes. Registering with REVU is basically just logging in, though ;)
[16:59] <jpds> RainCT: Ah, great. Loads of free food and stuff.
[16:59] <logari81> oh nice
[17:00] <RainCT> \o/ - evil school and not having a laptop :/  (until christmas :))
[17:01] <jpds> RainCT: Best part is meeting everyone tho.
[17:01]  * RainCT goes to fill the gobby docs with spam :P
[17:02] <lifeless> NCommander: I have a revu issue
[17:02] <lifeless> NCommander: I don't seem able to advocate
[17:03] <jpds> lifeless: Look for a "Merge" button near the top of the homepage.
[17:03] <lifeless> jpds: yes?
[17:03] <RainCT> lifeless: I've just given you reviewer rights (a few minutes ago)
[17:03] <NCommander> lifeless, have you merged your REVU accounts?
[17:03] <lifeless> NCommander: no, don't recall the email I used, nor my old password
[17:04] <lifeless> RainCT: ah thanks!
[17:04] <NCommander> lifeless, fair enough
[17:04] <RainCT> lifeless: wgrant asked in #ubuntuwire. I told him he should tell you to do the "i wanna revu privs" dance and record it in exchange ^^
[17:05] <lifeless> RainCT: :>
[18:01] <ScottK> jdong: I'm looking at: http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/status/release/stable-backports and thinking something like that would be nice ....
[18:18] <leonel> scottK where can we get the data ??
[18:19] <ScottK> leonel: Dunno.
[18:38] <paulproteus> If I'm already a Debian Maintainer, what process should I go through to become a MOTU?
[18:39] <paulproteus> I currently do all my Ubuntu contributions through my work in Debian, since it flows into Ubuntu.  But I'm interested in becoming a MOTU so I can join the Ubuntu Backports team.
[18:40] <pmjdebruijn> paulproteus: I'm not a MOTU, but it might to useful, to maybe supply a link to your work for Debian?
[18:41] <paulproteus> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=asheesh@asheesh.org
[18:45] <pochu> paulproteus: do you need to be a MOTU to be a backporter?
[18:45] <paulproteus> To be able to upload directly to the ubuntu-backports repository, apparently yes.
[18:46] <paulproteus> I'm reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports currently.
[18:47] <paulproteus> Most of what I want to backport are my own packages from Debian.
[18:47] <jdong> ScottK: that would be great
[18:48] <paulproteus> But also some desktop apps too, from time to time.
[18:55] <ScottK> paulproteus: Becoming a MOTU is both about technical capability and trust from the community.  Youre Debian experience certainly helps.  The best way is to jump right in and find some useful work to do.
[19:03] <pmjdebruijn> in a .install file, for a library, do I need to include both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 ?
[19:04] <jdong> irssi FAIL. What good is netsplit detection when I get 4 separate Netsplit over messages?
[19:05] <jdong> 5.
[19:05] <kees> heya paulproteus
[19:13] <paulproteus> Hey kees!
[19:13] <paulproteus> You at UDS?
[19:16] <Hobbsee> paulproteus: (he is)
[19:16] <paulproteus> Cool (-:
[19:18] <paulproteus> ScottK, Cool, thanks.
[19:18] <paulproteus> I'm in San Francisco, WAY up north from you guys. (-:
[19:19] <pochu> paulproteus: way east from me :(
[19:33] <kees> paulproteus: I am, yeah :)
[19:44] <fabrice_sp> Hi. Somebody with some spare time to review dvdstyler (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler)? Thanks!
[19:56] <mahesh> hello everybody
[19:57] <mahesh> i want to join motu team
[19:57] <mahesh> help
[19:57] <Pici> mahesh: Patience... UDS is this week so this channel isn't as active as it normally is.
[19:58] <jdong> and the rest of us are crying over final exams....
[19:58] <jdong> I hate school
[19:58] <laga> high school?
[19:58] <leonel> and some wishing being  in cancun ..
[19:58] <jdong> college. undergrade
[19:58] <jdong> err, undergrad.
[19:58] <jdong> the former is probably true too given my test scores.
[19:59] <mahesh> pici>> ok
[20:34]  * Laney herds some cats
[20:41] <meoblast001> hi
[20:41] <meoblast001> i have a compiling error which i believe may be a result of the packaging of xulrunner
[20:41] <meoblast001> http://rafb.net/p/QYqyQd25.html
[20:42] <meoblast001> all i did to that was change instances in the configure script of mozilla-nspr and mozilla-xpcom to xulrunner-nspr and xulrunner-xpcom
[20:56] <ScottK> meoblast001: For mozilla specific packaging questions you might have more luck in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[20:56] <meoblast001> k
[21:17] <Laney> Someone give me something to do.
[21:17] <Laney> I haven't uploaded anything in a while, and feel guilty
[21:18] <jdong> Laney: look at the diff between Intrepid and Jaunty VLC
[21:18] <Laney> just look at it?
[21:18] <jdong> Laney: i'm considering bringing 0.9.8a to Intrepid{-updates,-proposed} as a SRU + security  fix combo
[21:18] <jdong> I want to know if there's anything outrageously intrusively changed to make that a stupid idea
[21:18] <Laney>     *   0.9.4-1ubuntu3 to 0.9.8a-1ubuntu1  (2.6 MiB)
[21:18]  * Laney dies
[21:19] <jdong> well a lot of what will probably be autoconf cruft
[21:19] <crimsun> yay for filterdiff(1)
[21:19] <Laney> ah yes, so it is
[21:26] <Laney> vlc's changelogs are the worst
[21:27] <jdong> Laney: their fanbase isn't much better.
[21:27] <Laney> How do you mean?
[21:27] <jdong> Laney: idealistically I really just want to track upstream releases and say "take it and like it or ELSE"
[21:28] <jdong> (for VLC, that is)
[21:28] <Laney> You mean in *-updates?
[21:29] <jdong> Laney: correct
[21:29] <Laney> mm, I can see why the shady security history makes that attractive
[21:30] <jdong> Laney: and bug history in general; I'd rather just track the 0.9.x branch
[21:30] <jdong> Laney: I mean what's for certain is our current "stay 0.9.4 and nobody wants to touch it with a 10-foot pole" approach is lose.
[21:30] <Laney> So what we really want is a better upstream release approach
[21:31] <jdong> I propose tracking 0.9.x in -updates and if someone wants to backport security fixes in -security then go for it
[21:31] <jdong> well, in a way yes.
[21:31] <jdong> upstream doesn't do TOO badly with security updates in their 0.9 branch in general
[21:31] <Laney> I'm thinking like GNOME (but probably without time-based releases)
[21:32] <jdong> lol we can wish, can't we?
[21:32] <Laney> pipe dreams...
[21:32] <jdong> but VLC is an end user app used primarily by media geeks
[21:32] <jdong> most of the users want the latest version anyway
[21:32] <jdong> and it's pretty nontrivial to build oneself to the latest version too
[21:32] <Laney> PPA!
[21:33] <Laney> or backports I guess
[21:33] <jdong> yeah backports is absolutely one possible solution for this
[21:33] <Laney> anyway, I'd say go for it in -updates, from looking at NEWS. The "new feature" isn't really that much of a feature.
[21:34] <jdong> that tends to be the case in VLC's 0.0.x releases
[21:34] <Laney> But I see it's on depwait..
[22:30] <bugfixes> hello all
[22:30] <RainCT> hi
[22:31] <bugfixes> :) too late night at UTC?
[22:32] <bugfixes> is there any senior MOTU member here?
[22:33] <meoblast001> why dont i have static gtk libraries?
[22:45] <RAOF> meoblast001: Why would you expect static gtk libraries?
[22:45] <meoblast001> nvm... problem found
[22:45] <meoblast001> i was using --prefix=/usr/local so it couldnt ifnd anything
[22:50] <crimsun> bugfixes: "senior MOTU member"? :-)
[22:52] <bugfixes> crimsum: i wanna ask some question about MOTU and revu
[22:53] <ScottK-laptop> !ask | bugfixes
[22:55] <bugfixes> sorry! :)
[22:56] <ScottK-laptop> No trouble, just ask already if you have a question.
[22:56] <bugfixes> i would like to include a new package to motu, here is the url http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tcpproxy
[22:57] <ScottK-laptop> So you'd like someone to review your package?
[22:57] <bugfixes> yes!
[22:59] <Laney> mok0: Am I right in thinking you took all ubuntu changes in gtkglarea?
[22:59] <bugfixes> this is my first try! want to package some other package after i know the whole process!
[22:59] <bugfixes> !ask
[23:05] <bugfixes> ﻿ScottK-laptop: yes i would like someone to review my package
[23:15] <Laney> mok0: Never mind, looks like you did. I'll request the sync
[23:15] <Laney> after testing ofc
[23:15] <Laney> huats: !!! I have been looking for you
[23:16] <huats> hey Laney !
[23:16] <huats> I know why you are looking for me
[23:16] <huats> currently I am at the UDS
[23:16] <Laney> :P
[23:16] <Laney> I just wanted to hassle you
[23:16] <Laney> oh!
[23:17] <huats> I'll tackle the package right now (I mean today/tomorrow)
[23:17] <Laney> OK
[23:17] <huats> and I'll ping directly the sponsors ;)
[23:17] <Laney> I'll let you off
[23:17] <huats> no pb
[23:17] <Laney> if
[23:17] <huats> thanks
[23:17] <Laney> IF!
[23:17] <huats> and don't worry I won't let you don't :)
[23:17] <Laney> you buy james_w a beer from me
[23:18] <Laney> for being a great sponsor
[23:18] <Laney> muhahah
[23:18] <huats> I will :)
[23:19] <Laney> \o/
[23:21] <Laney> didrocks: Yo, mind if I check out if goocanvas can be synced back into Jaunty? Thanks for reporting the bug btw
[23:34] <Laney> Crap, requestsync went crazy
[23:34] <Laney> reported the sync bug 5 times
[23:59] <mok0> Laney: yes I did take care of them; there should be no reason to maintain a special ubuntu version anymore