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blahrus_anyone know how to update the backend, so it rescans your mp3's and tags on your mp3s?00:35
MythbuntuGuest86can someone please tell me how to get the latest version of flash installed on my mythbuntu install01:22
MythbuntuGuest27i got disconnected how do i install flash?01:33
MythbuntuGuest27i cannot watch youtube videos from my desktop...please help with this, when i use install flashplugin it fails01:37
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest27, error message?01:39
MythbuntuGuest27i get some kind of 404 error not found after it looks like it is installing01:51
MythbuntuGuest27Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|72.247.82.70|:80... connected.01:54
MythbuntuGuest27it says download failed01:54
afmany washington fios people that are able to lock on channel 3 via the STB and then change channels with irblaster?02:33
afmI can only lock on channels/add to db/ and view them if i take the stb out of the equation...wall to my card02:33
afmhardly what i'm paying for02:33
afmhmm from the wall i only pick up HD channels...figured that would be harder than picking up a single channel of qam02:52
afmhdhomerun and 8.10 btw02:53
ChaorainMy asound volume in alsamixer keeps going down when I load MythTV any clue how to fix?02:53
afmalsactl store02:53
afmhave to store the settings after you finish02:54
Chaorainhow do?02:54
afmalsactl store02:54
Chaorainok02:54
afmoptionally card number if you have more than one02:54
Chaoraini'll try that02:54
Chaorainjust one card02:54
afmprolly need sudo to write to the file02:55
Chaorainnope02:57
Chaoraintried it with sudo02:57
Chaorainand with out no go02:57
ChaorainI need it 100% to get soud but MythTV turns it down to 70%02:58
afmoh...there is a setting in myth then02:59
afmmy alsa defaults to mute and thats how i fixed it03:00
Chaorainfrontend or backend?03:00
afmmythfrontend -> Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> General -> Page303:01
Chaorainfound it03:03
Chaorainit worked woot03:05
Chaorainerlier I riped a dvd. where did it go?03:05
Chaorainor rather how do I play it?03:08
Chaorainnvm found it03:12
* afm curses the channel scanner :P03:19
rhpot1991afm: HDHR only does QAM03:21
rhpot1991doesn't do analog or anything03:22
afmunencrypted digital cable tv correct03:22
afm?03:23
afmi have a digital cable STB03:23
rhpot1991yes03:23
rhpot1991but the cable that comes out of that is no longer digital, you are analog cable then03:23
afmhmmm03:23
rhpot1991which the HDHR doesn't do03:23
afmok...would an hd STB solve my issue?03:24
afmor that do the same thing03:24
rhpot1991something like a haupauge pvr-150 or the hvr-1600 would be able to read that03:24
rhpot1991afm: should be the same thing03:24
afmshitbox03:24
rhpot1991also if you are doing analog cable then its not HD03:24
afmi have hd from the wall straight to the hdhr03:25
afmthat works well03:25
afmbut its extremely limited in channels03:25
rhpot1991thats kinda what I do, HDHR for the channels it gets, then I have a pvr-150 and a pvr-350 for analog channels and 2 firewire connections for anything else I can pick up03:28
afmyeah i just converted bought a mac mini for the small form factor...i have a pvr-150 in my other machine03:30
afmguess i need some shuffeling03:30
afmwell thanks for at least setting me straight03:32
afmi can stop trying now :|03:32
afmanyone have some experience with the hauppauge 1139 usb stick03:36
rhpot1991afm: well you know you can have multiple machines connected to each other right?03:50
afmyeah, i have limited space near my cable connectios03:50
afmi have a big ass desktop that used to be my primary myth box with a pvr-150 in it03:51
Zinnafm: Please watch your language.03:51
afmi needed a a smaller form factor....03:51
afmsigh...come on.....thats hardly rude...its said n public TV03:51
rhpot1991well you can have that be the frontend and as long as they are on the same network it will be able to see the backend with the pvr-150 in it03:52
rhpot1991just need to get a STB to the pvr-150 somehow03:52
rhpot1991afm: he has a very crude language detection, just to deter things from getting out of hand, all ubuntu rooms are supposed to follow the ubuntu code of conduct03:53
afmright....i would have to drill another hole in the floor to get a coax to the pc03:53
afmoh...gotcha03:53
rhpot1991IIRC you might be able to just run a cable to it and not go through a STB and get 1-7003:53
rhpot1991at least I've seen it mentioned that some people have been able to do that with fios03:53
afmyah might as well cancel my shotime04:16
rhpot1991only way you are gonna be able to record that is with a haupauge hdpvr 1212, which you need to run mythtv trunk for04:19
ChaorainIs there a way to edit the tags on a vob file? (a DVD rip)04:21
Chaorainello?04:27
kr00lCan someone help me with setting up Mythbuntu? I have it installed on this PC and during setup it saw my WinTV PVR 150 but now it doesn't enable it.04:29
ChaorainI wish I could help, but I am just a newb04:30
ChaorainI know how to fix a sound card though04:30
kr00lI wish it was as easy as windows media center04:30
Chaorainyou should check that right away04:30
rhpot1991kr00l: not the best way to get support here :)04:32
kr00lLOL, but i did get a response04:32
ChaorainIt takes a while to get help here.04:32
Chaorainbut when you do it is good help04:33
kr00lYeah but i need help now. I want to record my fav shows04:36
rhpot1991sounds like maybe you didn't fully complete the setup04:38
rhpot1991try it again make sure you hit all the steps and so on04:39
rhpot1991was it able to scan for channels, etc?04:39
sabhainIf anyone here is running a frontend on diskless server w/ PXE boot .. can you give me a shout?04:42
hadskr00l: People here aren't paid to help you, you need to be patient and have a good attitude about it.04:56
kr00lI know I'm waiting...04:57
BandCdo i need to setup video sources just to watch live TV?05:05
sabhainBandC yes you need to do that05:06
BandCdoes that mean i need to purchase the tv guide stuff?05:06
sabhainyou can get a free trial to test it out .. I think it lasts 2 weeks .. there may be guide data for free .. but $20 / year is pretty close to free05:10
BandCyeah i know and i would buy. i just ddin't know if it was required even to test live tv05:12
sabhainthe freebie 2 weeks should make it easy05:19
rhpot1991BandC: you don't if you just scan the channels but you wont have any listing data05:32
BandCi see. thx both. im subscribing to SD right now. ill let u know what happens05:33
BandChmm why wouldnt the program guide show the channel line up. i set up my subscription and mythfilldatabase downloaded tv schedules. when i click on program guide it shows nothing. "watch tv" blinks for a second and nothing happens as usual05:45
rhpot1991!blank% | BandC05:51
ZinnBandC: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory05:51
BandCyup. i checked that. /home/mythtv/ woudl work right?05:51
BandCas recording directory?05:51
BandCmy home directory is /home/bandc so specifying /home/mythtv should work i thought05:53
sabhain!pxe%05:59
ZinnSorry I don't know about pxe%05:59
rhpot1991BandC: in theory but if you are still having problems try it somewhere else06:05
rhpot1991default is /var/lib/mythtv I believe06:05
BandCthanks rhpot1991 i think i have multiple problems here. its getting late so i'll try to tackle them later06:16
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darthanubiswhat happened to mythvideo13:24
darthanubis?13:24
darthanubisI donnn't see the package anymore?13:25
afmin a repo?  on your menu?13:28
FachherHi13:32
afmmorning13:44
FachherHi afm13:51
FachherAre you still there13:51
afmnope :P13:53
FachherI want to install mythgame on my mythbuntu13:56
FachherDo you know where I can find an instruction for this13:57
afmhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythGame13:57
Fachherthank you14:03
shankazulu2hi, i have two tuners (one pci and one usb) in my mythtv setup, however i couldn't get a signal lock when trying to change to second input, i.e. the usb tuner14:16
shankazulu2tuners use same dvb-t source via 2 way 5-1000mhz splitter14:18
abarbacciahey can someone explain to me how the packages mythbuntu-diskless-client, -server and -client-builder14:20
darthanubiscann't find the mythtv plugin for totem, or mythvideo14:22
darthanubisok, founf mythvideo14:26
darthanubisbut it does not appear in mythtv...hmm14:26
afmmythvideo shows up as the media files section...14:44
afmhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682361 link to totem discussions14:44
afmanyone have any experience with the hauppauge 1212?16:12
t3ckn0b0yanyway to control a directtv d11 stb with just a remote/blaster and not have to also buy a usb to serial adapter?18:34
dashcloudt3ckn0b0y: the only other way I can think of is to setup the box to auto-tune whatever show you want, and then setup the recording in mythtv18:45
jphillipt3ckn0b0y you should be able to IR blast it, usb will be much more reliable if your STB supports it though18:46
t3ckn0b0ydefeats the purpose if i have to set both to record... :(  hmm... just bought a remote/blaster and seems like i have to come up with more money to change channels18:49
t3ckn0b0ydoes it have something to do with the box itself?18:49
dashcloudt3ckn0b0y: not sure really- I just use the USB method, and it works perfectly18:52
dashcloudplus, you can get control over the Onscreen Display banner, and turn it off if you so choose18:52
t3ckn0b0ythat would be nice.. which one do you suggest paterson Technology?18:53
dashcloudon this page: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Controlling_DirectTV_D11_via_USB I ordered #718:58
dashcloudhttp://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E1681210710818:58
t3ckn0b0yoh wow... not as expensive as i thought.18:59
t3ckn0b0ythanks for your help...18:59
* afm is truely debating pulling the trigger on the haupauge hdpvr....not sure i'm ready for anything that bleeding edge20:35
jphillipafm you'd need to compile your own mythtv then20:38
afmyup20:39
afmpretty decent howto with knopp from nharris who seems to have mot of the documentation out there20:39
afmmost rather20:40
afmseems odd myth needs compiling though...i know about the kernel and driver and firmware20:41
foxbuntu_vmafm, its because the newer USB support in myth in ONLY in SVN20:42
afmah i see..makes sense20:42
foxbuntu_vmafm, actually, iirc someone around here is working on trunk builds for .22 already20:43
foxbuntu_vmwhich would solve that issue for you20:43
jphillipfoxbuntu_vm its been talked about, but I dunno if any work has been done20:44
foxbuntu_vmjphillip, last I heard it was a wip, some big hang ups with the plugins atm though, and themes because of mythui20:44
hadsYeah, not really ready yet.20:46
dalbaechhello everyone21:22
ron_oyup, it's always the same. Go to the source first and think simple. Sound didn't work, and what do you know, I thought I had the latest kernel but did not> :)21:23
ron_othat's all it took.21:24
flodinman, it would be really nice if xbmc worked as a full-fledged mythtv frontend21:24
ron_oxbmc is porting to that ain't it? it was first made for the xbox.21:25
flodinit's ported to pc already21:26
flodinbut they don't have any official mythtv support yet, though there's some talk about adding it21:26
ron_oi see.21:26
flodinthere's an unmaintained plugin that lets you view mythtv recordings21:26
ron_oI thought they were working onit21:26
flodinbut afaik nothing to watch live tv21:27
flodinit's just so much cuter and flashier21:27
ron_oindeed.21:27
ron_oand flash is what most folks are attracted to (at first)21:27
flodinthere are some functional advantages too, the image viewer plugin for mythtv is pretty crude, for example, if you have a lot of photos in your library21:28
foxbuntu_vmron_o, flodin there has been talk about porting a flashier frontend like xbmc (and others) to use mythtv for a long time21:29
ron_oya, I've been reading up on it.21:29
toorimacan anyone recommend a usb remote receiver only? have a pvr150 today with receiver but want to remove that card21:29
foxbuntu_vmhowever the new version of myth that is in the works has a much improved theming interface which should provide for a cleaner look down the road21:29
flodincool21:30
flodini like the way themes for xbmc can actually change the behavior of the ui21:30
flodinnot just put another skin on the same old menu items21:30
foxbuntu_vmtoorima, I havent seen anyone selling a receiver minus the remote, they are always packaged together21:30
foxbuntu_vmflodin, well that can be done in mythtv as well, its just a matter of the theme writer doing something different21:31
toorimafoxbuntu_vm: hmm ok, i use a logitec harmoney 880 as remote so only need receiver u know21:31
foxbuntu_vmtoorima, I would just go find a good IR MCE USB remote21:32
foxbuntu_vm(use the remote or dont)21:32
foxbuntu_vmbut that will get you the IR receiver you are looking for21:32
toorimafoxbuntu_vm: ok thx man21:32
foxbuntu_vmnp21:33
flodinfoxbuntu_vm: i'm guessing it's somehow easier / quicker to do something for xbmc though21:33
foxbuntu_vmflodin, I cant comment, I dont really know much about xbmc21:33
hadsYou guess wrong.21:33
foxbuntu_vmits hads!21:34
hadsHowdy :)21:34
foxbuntu_vmo/21:34
foxbuntu_vmflodin, there are all sorts of attempts at attaching other media center frontends/applications to a myth backend, but the community support just isnt there to make happen and projects to do so often die because its hard to sustain without support from upstream myth21:36
flodinyou mean the protocol toward the backend changes a lot?21:38
foxbuntu_vmindeed, along with the DB schema and so on21:38
flodinah21:39
flodintoo bad21:39
foxbuntu_vmso keeping track of all of those items to keep a frontend playing nice with myth is nearly impossible without their support21:39
flodinwith the design being what it is, separated into front end and back end, you'd think there would be some interest in stabilizing the interface21:39
flodin(interface to the backend, that is)21:39
foxbuntu_vmits very stable, it just changes (feature adds, bug fixes ect)21:40
foxbuntu_vmits not static21:40
foxbuntu_vmnor should it be21:40
flodinby stable i mean, not changing in a way that breaks existing front ends21:40
flodinthere are various ways to achieve that without excluding new features / improvements21:41
hadsIt's not a simple thing.21:41
foxbuntu_vmflodin, I know a good project example if you want to see an atempt at this exact thing21:41
foxbuntu_vmflodin, check out gloss-mc on launchpad21:42
foxbuntu_vmI built the deb for it and did a little coding on it21:42
tgm4883_laptopAs i've said before, and continue to believe today, there is too much fragmentation in floss projects21:42
tgm4883_laptoptoo many people rebuilding the wheel21:42
tgm4883_laptopor rather trying to21:43
foxbuntu_vmindeed21:43
flodinhads: no but it's not harder than the kind of stuff that mythtv already does :)21:43
foxbuntu_vmif the energy was focused on making mythfrontend more like one of those others, (i.e. flashy) it would aready be done21:43
flodinsure but is that what you want? I would think it was much nicer if there were a few competing front ends21:44
tgm4883_laptopnot everyone wants a flashy interface, some people want stability, while still others prefer slimed down options21:44
tgm4883_laptopflodin, agreed, but show me these frontends?21:44
foxbuntu_vmflodin, I dont disagree on that front, believe me...but I dont think people should try to subvert progress either21:44
flodinwell i'm running out of battery on this laptop21:45
tgm4883_laptopflodin, believe me, if there was an worthy alternative to mythfrontend that worked, we'd ship it and give the user the option, but IMHO, XBMC is the best alternative, but the implementation sucks21:47
foxbuntu_vmflodin, but nothing can stop you from trying for your own systems :)21:48
foxbuntu_vm(not offering support or help in anyway to make that happen however)21:49
flodinwell, if you keep breaking existing front ends that will make it pretty hard for people to do something21:49
flodinlike you said21:50
flodineventually these type of solutions will become more commonplace, and there will be more people who want to get involved21:52
flodinin the end it's about getting enough people interested21:52
flodinor rather, it's about people becoming interested and getting themselves involved21:52
flodini'm interested, but i have a lot of interests :)21:52
tgm4883_laptopflodin, getting people involved, that would be nice21:53
tgm4883_laptopare you offering to join the dev team?21:53
flodinno :)21:54
tgm4883_laptopwell there lies the problem21:54
flodinthat's what i was saying21:55
tgm4883_laptopThere are lots of feature request writers, but there are few feature request implementers21:55
flodinbut as it becomes more important to people, it will be higher up on their priority list21:55
tgm4883_laptopdisagree, people expect things to just work21:55
flodinperhaps mythtv will some day end up #1 on my list of priorities, but it isn't today21:55
tgm4883_laptopjust because it's important to people, doesn't mean they want to help21:55
tgm4883_laptopflodin, your thoughts there are not your own21:56
tgm4883_laptoptell me, when will a media center be #1 on anyones list of priorities?21:56
foxbuntu_vmtoday21:57
* foxbuntu_vm <--21:57
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu_vm, bollocks21:57
foxbuntu_vmlol21:57
flodinas far as hobby projects go, i could certainly envision it becoming #1 for me within, say... the next 10 years21:57
foxbuntu_vmtgm4883_laptop, I had to ruin it for you, after all I own a business for these stupid things, pretty much makes it at the top of my prioirty list21:58
flodinright now i have at least 3-4 things i want to finish before getting involved in another project21:58
foxbuntu_vmflodin, thats always the case until you just dive in21:58
foxbuntu_vmflodin, you just have to make it happen, its a hoax that there will ever be time to dedicate to such things21:59
flodini dedicate time on other hobby projects. Why couldn't I decide one day to replace those projects with mythtv?21:59
foxbuntu_vmbecause software dev isnt like working on a car21:59
foxbuntu_vmthere is no end21:59
tgm4883_laptopfoxbuntu_vm, do you have another job?22:00
foxbuntu_vm222:00
foxbuntu_vm322:00
flodinno but there's a point of "good enough for the moment" :)22:00
foxbuntu_vmits winter22:00
tgm4883_laptopthen it's not your top priority22:00
foxbuntu_vmI am married, own a business, work a day job, and do snow removal, and I am a core dev for this project22:00
flodinlike i'm working on a program to automatically update my tags file when i save a source file22:01
tgm4883_laptopand by core, he means top bug implementer22:01
foxbuntu_vmlol22:01
flodinit's working... but it's not recursive, and it only works on linux and not windows22:01
flodinthere are a bunch of other issues... but if i can just get the recursion and the windows support running, that will be enough to leave that project behind22:01
foxbuntu_vmtgm4883_laptop, I may end up with bugs, but at least my UI is useable when I am done ;)22:02
tgm4883_laptopmine is usable22:02
foxbuntu_vmby you22:02
tgm4883_laptopas long as you restart the gui after you close each window22:02
foxbuntu_vmlol22:02
jphillipUI's are overrated22:02
tgm4883_laptopexactly ;)22:02
tgm4883_laptopyou can do everything in the command line app that you can in my gui22:03
jphillipreal men say here is a command line with 18,000 arguements, good luck chumps22:03
foxbuntu_vmoh I see...getting ganged up on now..22:03
jphillipwhat the heck, why can't I enable fx's switch page direction without having it in the context menu....22:03
foxbuntu_vmjphillip, well my automagic inventory thing I finished up is all command line22:03
foxbuntu_vmno gui22:03
jphillipI as just too lazy/annoyed to use glade22:04
jphillipwas*22:04
foxbuntu_vmyea22:04
foxbuntu_vmglade is a real pita22:04
tgm4883_laptop!stab trunk22:05
* Zinn stabs trunk with a sharpened mce remote.22:05
jphillip!stab firefox22:05
jphillip:(22:05
tgm4883_laptopheh22:06
tgm4883_laptopno stabby for you ;)22:06
laga!stab something22:06
* Zinn stabs something with a rusty spork.22:06
jphillipI lose22:07
sabhain!stab tftp22:08
sabhain!stab pxelinux22:09
tgm4883_laptopif you would like stab privledges, just pm me with what part of mythbuntu you would like to help develop22:09
foxbuntu_vmlol22:10
tgm4883_laptop*crickets*22:10
jphillipheh22:11
* sabhain is helping develop a list of things that don't work for him yet .. in spite of the great work of the devs22:11
tgm4883_laptopI forgot, we don't release working releases to the public, we keep that for ourselves ;)   Become a developer today!22:13
tgm4883_laptop*more crickets*22:14
* sabhain would love to .. really. 22:15
lagasabhain: looking forward to that list. please use the bug tracker. do not post it in the forums or it'll get lost22:32
ravaloxHey, I just did a fresh install and for some reason when I attempt to watch TV it goes blank23:06
ravaloxWhen I attempt to mark a channel for recording it doesn't retain the selection23:06
ravaloxDoes this sound like a common installation error?23:06
ravaloxI'm no novice but I don't have any working theories right now.23:07
ravaloxIt's a fully patched mythbuntu 8.04.1 system23:08
tgm4883_laptop!logs23:08
ZinnMythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/23:08
tgm4883_laptopravalox, pastebin your backend log23:08
tgm4883_laptop!pastebin23:08
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.23:08
ravaloxGood thinking!23:10
ravaloxhttp://pastebin.com/m59bc1cb923:10
tgm4883_laptopSG(Default) Error: Group 'Default' wants to use directory '/mythtv/video/', but this directory is not writeable.23:10
tgm4883_laptopyou should make that owned by mythtv:mythtv23:11
ravaloxWhen attempting to flag a recording it now gives me this error: 2008-12-09 18:11:57.202 MythSocket(8271a78:-1): writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket.23:14
bobbob1016I can't seem to get my nvidia 8200gs' resolution correct.  It detects my receiver, not my tv.  How can I manually set it to 1360x768?23:19
ravaloxGood luck on that, I've been trying to set nvidia drivers to 720p resolutions for a few months now23:19
ravaloxno dice23:19
ravaloxHey, I can't seem to schedule recordings in mythtv; it doesn't retain any of the selection I make in the programming guide.23:48
ravaloxThis is a mythbuntu 8.04.1 installation23:48
highzethanyone got a recommendation on a 5/8 multiswitch?23:49
highzethThe selection as of now are various EMP Centauri, Hirschmann(Triax rebrand?), Satmatrix & Spaun23:51

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