[00:35] anyone know how to update the backend, so it rescans your mp3's and tags on your mp3s? [01:22] can someone please tell me how to get the latest version of flash installed on my mythbuntu install [01:33] i got disconnected how do i install flash? [01:37] i cannot watch youtube videos from my desktop...please help with this, when i use install flashplugin it fails [01:39] MythbuntuGuest27, error message? [01:51] i get some kind of 404 error not found after it looks like it is installing [01:54] Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|72.247.82.70|:80... connected. [01:54] it says download failed [02:33] any washington fios people that are able to lock on channel 3 via the STB and then change channels with irblaster? [02:33] I can only lock on channels/add to db/ and view them if i take the stb out of the equation...wall to my card [02:33] hardly what i'm paying for [02:52] hmm from the wall i only pick up HD channels...figured that would be harder than picking up a single channel of qam [02:53] hdhomerun and 8.10 btw [02:53] My asound volume in alsamixer keeps going down when I load MythTV any clue how to fix? [02:53] alsactl store [02:54] have to store the settings after you finish [02:54] how do? [02:54] alsactl store [02:54] ok [02:54] optionally card number if you have more than one [02:54] i'll try that [02:54] just one card [02:55] prolly need sudo to write to the file [02:57] nope [02:57] tried it with sudo [02:57] and with out no go [02:58] I need it 100% to get soud but MythTV turns it down to 70% [02:59] oh...there is a setting in myth then [03:00] my alsa defaults to mute and thats how i fixed it [03:00] frontend or backend? [03:01] mythfrontend -> Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> General -> Page3 [03:03] found it [03:05] it worked woot [03:05] erlier I riped a dvd. where did it go? [03:08] or rather how do I play it? [03:12] nvm found it [03:19] * afm curses the channel scanner :P [03:21] afm: HDHR only does QAM [03:22] doesn't do analog or anything [03:22] unencrypted digital cable tv correct [03:23] ? [03:23] i have a digital cable STB [03:23] yes [03:23] but the cable that comes out of that is no longer digital, you are analog cable then [03:23] hmmm [03:23] which the HDHR doesn't do [03:24] ok...would an hd STB solve my issue? [03:24] or that do the same thing [03:24] something like a haupauge pvr-150 or the hvr-1600 would be able to read that [03:24] afm: should be the same thing [03:24] shitbox [03:24] also if you are doing analog cable then its not HD [03:25] i have hd from the wall straight to the hdhr [03:25] that works well [03:25] but its extremely limited in channels [03:28] thats kinda what I do, HDHR for the channels it gets, then I have a pvr-150 and a pvr-350 for analog channels and 2 firewire connections for anything else I can pick up [03:30] yeah i just converted bought a mac mini for the small form factor...i have a pvr-150 in my other machine [03:30] guess i need some shuffeling [03:32] well thanks for at least setting me straight [03:32] i can stop trying now :| [03:36] anyone have some experience with the hauppauge 1139 usb stick [03:50] afm: well you know you can have multiple machines connected to each other right? [03:50] yeah, i have limited space near my cable connectios [03:51] i have a big ass desktop that used to be my primary myth box with a pvr-150 in it [03:51] afm: Please watch your language. [03:51] i needed a a smaller form factor.... [03:51] sigh...come on.....thats hardly rude...its said n public TV [03:52] well you can have that be the frontend and as long as they are on the same network it will be able to see the backend with the pvr-150 in it [03:52] just need to get a STB to the pvr-150 somehow [03:53] afm: he has a very crude language detection, just to deter things from getting out of hand, all ubuntu rooms are supposed to follow the ubuntu code of conduct [03:53] right....i would have to drill another hole in the floor to get a coax to the pc [03:53] oh...gotcha [03:53] IIRC you might be able to just run a cable to it and not go through a STB and get 1-70 [03:53] at least I've seen it mentioned that some people have been able to do that with fios [04:16] yah might as well cancel my shotime [04:19] only way you are gonna be able to record that is with a haupauge hdpvr 1212, which you need to run mythtv trunk for [04:21] Is there a way to edit the tags on a vob file? (a DVD rip) [04:27] ello? [04:29] Can someone help me with setting up Mythbuntu? I have it installed on this PC and during setup it saw my WinTV PVR 150 but now it doesn't enable it. [04:30] I wish I could help, but I am just a newb [04:30] I know how to fix a sound card though [04:30] I wish it was as easy as windows media center [04:30] you should check that right away [04:32] kr00l: not the best way to get support here :) [04:32] LOL, but i did get a response [04:32] It takes a while to get help here. [04:33] but when you do it is good help [04:36] Yeah but i need help now. I want to record my fav shows [04:38] sounds like maybe you didn't fully complete the setup [04:39] try it again make sure you hit all the steps and so on [04:39] was it able to scan for channels, etc? [04:42] If anyone here is running a frontend on diskless server w/ PXE boot .. can you give me a shout? [04:56] kr00l: People here aren't paid to help you, you need to be patient and have a good attitude about it. [04:57] I know I'm waiting... [05:05] do i need to setup video sources just to watch live TV? [05:06] BandC yes you need to do that [05:06] does that mean i need to purchase the tv guide stuff? [05:10] you can get a free trial to test it out .. I think it lasts 2 weeks .. there may be guide data for free .. but $20 / year is pretty close to free [05:12] yeah i know and i would buy. i just ddin't know if it was required even to test live tv [05:19] the freebie 2 weeks should make it easy [05:32] BandC: you don't if you just scan the channels but you wont have any listing data [05:33] i see. thx both. im subscribing to SD right now. ill let u know what happens [05:45] hmm why wouldnt the program guide show the channel line up. i set up my subscription and mythfilldatabase downloaded tv schedules. when i click on program guide it shows nothing. "watch tv" blinks for a second and nothing happens as usual [05:51] !blank% | BandC [05:51] BandC: If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory. It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory [05:51] yup. i checked that. /home/mythtv/ woudl work right? [05:51] as recording directory? [05:53] my home directory is /home/bandc so specifying /home/mythtv should work i thought [05:59] !pxe% [05:59] Sorry I don't know about pxe% [06:05] BandC: in theory but if you are still having problems try it somewhere else [06:05] default is /var/lib/mythtv I believe [06:16] thanks rhpot1991 i think i have multiple problems here. its getting late so i'll try to tackle them later === toorima_ is now known as toorima [13:24] what happened to mythvideo [13:24] ? [13:25] I donnn't see the package anymore? [13:28] in a repo? on your menu? [13:32] Hi [13:44] morning [13:51] Hi afm [13:51] Are you still there [13:53] nope :P [13:56] I want to install mythgame on my mythbuntu [13:57] Do you know where I can find an instruction for this [13:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythGame [14:03] thank you [14:16] hi, i have two tuners (one pci and one usb) in my mythtv setup, however i couldn't get a signal lock when trying to change to second input, i.e. the usb tuner [14:18] tuners use same dvb-t source via 2 way 5-1000mhz splitter [14:20] hey can someone explain to me how the packages mythbuntu-diskless-client, -server and -client-builder [14:22] cann't find the mythtv plugin for totem, or mythvideo [14:26] ok, founf mythvideo [14:26] but it does not appear in mythtv...hmm [14:44] mythvideo shows up as the media files section... [14:44] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682361 link to totem discussions [16:12] anyone have any experience with the hauppauge 1212? [18:34] anyway to control a directtv d11 stb with just a remote/blaster and not have to also buy a usb to serial adapter? [18:45] t3ckn0b0y: the only other way I can think of is to setup the box to auto-tune whatever show you want, and then setup the recording in mythtv [18:46] t3ckn0b0y you should be able to IR blast it, usb will be much more reliable if your STB supports it though [18:49] defeats the purpose if i have to set both to record... :( hmm... just bought a remote/blaster and seems like i have to come up with more money to change channels [18:49] does it have something to do with the box itself? [18:52] t3ckn0b0y: not sure really- I just use the USB method, and it works perfectly [18:52] plus, you can get control over the Onscreen Display banner, and turn it off if you so choose [18:53] that would be nice.. which one do you suggest paterson Technology? [18:58] on this page: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Controlling_DirectTV_D11_via_USB I ordered #7 [18:58] http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107108 [18:59] oh wow... not as expensive as i thought. [18:59] thanks for your help... [20:35] * afm is truely debating pulling the trigger on the haupauge hdpvr....not sure i'm ready for anything that bleeding edge [20:38] afm you'd need to compile your own mythtv then [20:39] yup [20:39] pretty decent howto with knopp from nharris who seems to have mot of the documentation out there [20:40] most rather [20:41] seems odd myth needs compiling though...i know about the kernel and driver and firmware [20:42] afm, its because the newer USB support in myth in ONLY in SVN [20:42] ah i see..makes sense [20:43] afm, actually, iirc someone around here is working on trunk builds for .22 already [20:43] which would solve that issue for you [20:44] foxbuntu_vm its been talked about, but I dunno if any work has been done [20:44] jphillip, last I heard it was a wip, some big hang ups with the plugins atm though, and themes because of mythui [20:46] Yeah, not really ready yet. [21:22] hello everyone [21:23] yup, it's always the same. Go to the source first and think simple. Sound didn't work, and what do you know, I thought I had the latest kernel but did not> :) [21:24] that's all it took. [21:24] man, it would be really nice if xbmc worked as a full-fledged mythtv frontend [21:25] xbmc is porting to that ain't it? it was first made for the xbox. [21:26] it's ported to pc already [21:26] but they don't have any official mythtv support yet, though there's some talk about adding it [21:26] i see. [21:26] there's an unmaintained plugin that lets you view mythtv recordings [21:26] I thought they were working onit [21:27] but afaik nothing to watch live tv [21:27] it's just so much cuter and flashier [21:27] indeed. [21:27] and flash is what most folks are attracted to (at first) [21:28] there are some functional advantages too, the image viewer plugin for mythtv is pretty crude, for example, if you have a lot of photos in your library [21:29] ron_o, flodin there has been talk about porting a flashier frontend like xbmc (and others) to use mythtv for a long time [21:29] ya, I've been reading up on it. [21:29] can anyone recommend a usb remote receiver only? have a pvr150 today with receiver but want to remove that card [21:29] however the new version of myth that is in the works has a much improved theming interface which should provide for a cleaner look down the road [21:30] cool [21:30] i like the way themes for xbmc can actually change the behavior of the ui [21:30] not just put another skin on the same old menu items [21:30] toorima, I havent seen anyone selling a receiver minus the remote, they are always packaged together [21:31] flodin, well that can be done in mythtv as well, its just a matter of the theme writer doing something different [21:31] foxbuntu_vm: hmm ok, i use a logitec harmoney 880 as remote so only need receiver u know [21:32] toorima, I would just go find a good IR MCE USB remote [21:32] (use the remote or dont) [21:32] but that will get you the IR receiver you are looking for [21:32] foxbuntu_vm: ok thx man [21:33] np [21:33] foxbuntu_vm: i'm guessing it's somehow easier / quicker to do something for xbmc though [21:33] flodin, I cant comment, I dont really know much about xbmc [21:33] You guess wrong. [21:34] its hads! [21:34] Howdy :) [21:34] o/ [21:36] flodin, there are all sorts of attempts at attaching other media center frontends/applications to a myth backend, but the community support just isnt there to make happen and projects to do so often die because its hard to sustain without support from upstream myth [21:38] you mean the protocol toward the backend changes a lot? [21:38] indeed, along with the DB schema and so on [21:39] ah [21:39] too bad [21:39] so keeping track of all of those items to keep a frontend playing nice with myth is nearly impossible without their support [21:39] with the design being what it is, separated into front end and back end, you'd think there would be some interest in stabilizing the interface [21:39] (interface to the backend, that is) [21:40] its very stable, it just changes (feature adds, bug fixes ect) [21:40] its not static [21:40] nor should it be [21:40] by stable i mean, not changing in a way that breaks existing front ends [21:41] there are various ways to achieve that without excluding new features / improvements [21:41] It's not a simple thing. [21:41] flodin, I know a good project example if you want to see an atempt at this exact thing [21:42] flodin, check out gloss-mc on launchpad [21:42] I built the deb for it and did a little coding on it [21:42] As i've said before, and continue to believe today, there is too much fragmentation in floss projects [21:42] too many people rebuilding the wheel [21:43] or rather trying to [21:43] indeed [21:43] hads: no but it's not harder than the kind of stuff that mythtv already does :) [21:43] if the energy was focused on making mythfrontend more like one of those others, (i.e. flashy) it would aready be done [21:44] sure but is that what you want? I would think it was much nicer if there were a few competing front ends [21:44] not everyone wants a flashy interface, some people want stability, while still others prefer slimed down options [21:44] flodin, agreed, but show me these frontends? [21:44] flodin, I dont disagree on that front, believe me...but I dont think people should try to subvert progress either [21:45] well i'm running out of battery on this laptop [21:47] flodin, believe me, if there was an worthy alternative to mythfrontend that worked, we'd ship it and give the user the option, but IMHO, XBMC is the best alternative, but the implementation sucks [21:48] flodin, but nothing can stop you from trying for your own systems :) [21:49] (not offering support or help in anyway to make that happen however) [21:49] well, if you keep breaking existing front ends that will make it pretty hard for people to do something [21:50] like you said [21:52] eventually these type of solutions will become more commonplace, and there will be more people who want to get involved [21:52] in the end it's about getting enough people interested [21:52] or rather, it's about people becoming interested and getting themselves involved [21:52] i'm interested, but i have a lot of interests :) [21:53] flodin, getting people involved, that would be nice [21:53] are you offering to join the dev team? [21:54] no :) [21:54] well there lies the problem [21:55] that's what i was saying [21:55] There are lots of feature request writers, but there are few feature request implementers [21:55] but as it becomes more important to people, it will be higher up on their priority list [21:55] disagree, people expect things to just work [21:55] perhaps mythtv will some day end up #1 on my list of priorities, but it isn't today [21:55] just because it's important to people, doesn't mean they want to help [21:56] flodin, your thoughts there are not your own [21:56] tell me, when will a media center be #1 on anyones list of priorities? [21:57] today [21:57] * foxbuntu_vm <-- [21:57] foxbuntu_vm, bollocks [21:57] lol [21:57] as far as hobby projects go, i could certainly envision it becoming #1 for me within, say... the next 10 years [21:58] tgm4883_laptop, I had to ruin it for you, after all I own a business for these stupid things, pretty much makes it at the top of my prioirty list [21:58] right now i have at least 3-4 things i want to finish before getting involved in another project [21:58] flodin, thats always the case until you just dive in [21:59] flodin, you just have to make it happen, its a hoax that there will ever be time to dedicate to such things [21:59] i dedicate time on other hobby projects. Why couldn't I decide one day to replace those projects with mythtv? [21:59] because software dev isnt like working on a car [21:59] there is no end [22:00] foxbuntu_vm, do you have another job? [22:00] 2 [22:00] 3 [22:00] no but there's a point of "good enough for the moment" :) [22:00] its winter [22:00] then it's not your top priority [22:00] I am married, own a business, work a day job, and do snow removal, and I am a core dev for this project [22:01] like i'm working on a program to automatically update my tags file when i save a source file [22:01] and by core, he means top bug implementer [22:01] lol [22:01] it's working... but it's not recursive, and it only works on linux and not windows [22:01] there are a bunch of other issues... but if i can just get the recursion and the windows support running, that will be enough to leave that project behind [22:02] tgm4883_laptop, I may end up with bugs, but at least my UI is useable when I am done ;) [22:02] mine is usable [22:02] by you [22:02] as long as you restart the gui after you close each window [22:02] lol [22:02] UI's are overrated [22:02] exactly ;) [22:03] you can do everything in the command line app that you can in my gui [22:03] real men say here is a command line with 18,000 arguements, good luck chumps [22:03] oh I see...getting ganged up on now.. [22:03] what the heck, why can't I enable fx's switch page direction without having it in the context menu.... [22:03] jphillip, well my automagic inventory thing I finished up is all command line [22:03] no gui [22:04] I as just too lazy/annoyed to use glade [22:04] was* [22:04] yea [22:04] glade is a real pita [22:05] !stab trunk [22:05] * Zinn stabs trunk with a sharpened mce remote. [22:05] !stab firefox [22:05] :( [22:06] heh [22:06] no stabby for you ;) [22:06] !stab something [22:06] * Zinn stabs something with a rusty spork. [22:07] I lose [22:08] !stab tftp [22:09] !stab pxelinux [22:09] if you would like stab privledges, just pm me with what part of mythbuntu you would like to help develop [22:10] lol [22:10] *crickets* [22:11] heh [22:11] * sabhain is helping develop a list of things that don't work for him yet .. in spite of the great work of the devs [22:13] I forgot, we don't release working releases to the public, we keep that for ourselves ;) Become a developer today! [22:14] *more crickets* [22:15] * sabhain would love to .. really. [22:32] sabhain: looking forward to that list. please use the bug tracker. do not post it in the forums or it'll get lost [23:06] Hey, I just did a fresh install and for some reason when I attempt to watch TV it goes blank [23:06] When I attempt to mark a channel for recording it doesn't retain the selection [23:06] Does this sound like a common installation error? [23:07] I'm no novice but I don't have any working theories right now. [23:08] It's a fully patched mythbuntu 8.04.1 system [23:08] !logs [23:08] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [23:08] ravalox, pastebin your backend log [23:08] !pastebin [23:08] when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [23:10] Good thinking! [23:10] http://pastebin.com/m59bc1cb9 [23:10] SG(Default) Error: Group 'Default' wants to use directory '/mythtv/video/', but this directory is not writeable. [23:11] you should make that owned by mythtv:mythtv [23:14] When attempting to flag a recording it now gives me this error: 2008-12-09 18:11:57.202 MythSocket(8271a78:-1): writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket. [23:19] I can't seem to get my nvidia 8200gs' resolution correct. It detects my receiver, not my tv. How can I manually set it to 1360x768? [23:19] Good luck on that, I've been trying to set nvidia drivers to 720p resolutions for a few months now [23:19] no dice [23:48] Hey, I can't seem to schedule recordings in mythtv; it doesn't retain any of the selection I make in the programming guide. [23:48] This is a mythbuntu 8.04.1 installation [23:49] anyone got a recommendation on a 5/8 multiswitch? [23:51] The selection as of now are various EMP Centauri, Hirschmann(Triax rebrand?), Satmatrix & Spaun