[00:14] <Jared555> what do I have to do to get mysql 5.1 installed on ubuntu?  this is NOT a production box so don't say 'you shouldn't do it, it isn't stable'
[00:15] <[Drake]> apt-get install mysql
[00:15]  * [Drake] shrug
[00:16] <Deeps> http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=mysql+5.1+ubuntu&l=0
[00:16] <hads> Hah, love that.
[00:16] <Deeps> Jared555: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=mysql+5.1+ubuntu&l=0
[00:19] <Jared555> Deeps, you know.... I didn't think of google..... it is so much faster to open irc, connect to freenode, ask a question, and probably wait five hours to get a response..... thank you for your mind blowing answer
[00:19] <hads> Way to get help
[00:20] <[Drake]> ivoks
[00:21] <Jared555> hads, I tried asking politely, got the standard 'it isn't stable' response, asked again, got the 'go to google' response (which I had tried, getting a bunch of old responses before mysql 5.1 went GA and with very limited help, hence, my sarcastic response
[00:22] <ivoks> Jared555: 5.1 isn't supported on ubuntu
[00:22] <ivoks> Jared555: supported mysql is in ubuntu's archive
[00:22] <ivoks> anything else - google it
[00:23] <[Drake]> ivoks i am about to do a dreaded overhaul :P
[00:23] <ivoks> \wii [Drake]
[00:23] <[Drake]> going back to a 32bit system with a 64bit kernal
[00:23] <Jared555> most distros seem to have some form of unstable repository available for people who want to test things, etc.  I thought that MIGHT be the case with ubuntu
[00:23] <[Drake]> i hope I don't loose my data lol
[00:24] <ivoks> [Drake]: most != debian
[00:24] <ivoks> bah... Jared555
[00:24] <ivoks> and we do have unstable - jaunty
[00:24] <[Drake]> ivoks heh so true I am half tempted to go back fbsd lol
[00:27] <Jared555> ivoks, yes, but is it possible to just install one unstable package out of that version?
[00:27] <Deeps> Jared555: assuming it doesn't depend newer version of packages trhat only feature in unstable, yep
[00:28] <Jared555> thank you..... so how would I do such a thing?
[00:28] <Deeps> Jared555: if newer unstable package depends on other newer unstable packages, then no
[00:29] <Deeps> easy way would be to grab the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com, and install using dpkg -i package.deb
[00:30] <Jared555> thanks
[00:30] <Deeps> that way would ensure no additional packages are installed from unstable too, but would also complain if the deb in question had unmet dependancies
[00:30] <[Drake]> Jared555 yes grab the appripiate package and dependancy and make and install them
[00:33] <ivoks> 5.1 isn't in jaunty yet, irrc
[00:33] <ivoks> iirc
[00:33] <Deeps> lol
[00:34] <zul> mysql? no it isnt
[00:40] <`6og> if [[bleeding edge required ]] ; do put in the effort yourself; fi
[00:43] <Deeps> s/do/then/
[00:43] <Deeps> close though
[00:45] <`6og> Deeps: its annoying when psudo code is close enough that people correct it ;p
[00:46] <Deeps> ;)
[00:58]  * [Drake] crosses his fingers and hopes he doesn't loose any data
[00:59] <`6og> gl!
[00:59] <edge> can i flush dns on my server?
[00:59] <`6og> what do you mean?
[01:01] <edge> my box got some bad dns info , i wanna get rid of its cache of dns
[01:01] <Deeps> rndc flush
[01:25] <[Drake]> errr
[01:25] <[Drake]> getting an error that forcing me reboot
[01:26] <[Drake]> after it checks for updates during an install, it says that the cdrom media was changed!
[01:26] <[Drake]> of course it wasn't
[01:39] <[Drake]> blah the alternate cd is crappy for 8.10
[03:39] <slestak> im setting up dnmsasq for local dns of a small home lan.  i have it issuing dhcap addresses to the client, but I do not see in Network Manager where to set the gateway address.
[03:39] <slestak> crap typos, dnsmasq, dhcp
[03:41] <`6og> why isnt dnsmasq giving out the gateway address?
[03:43] <slestak> im not sure, lemme look at config
[03:43] <slestak> the client has the dnsmasq server ip as both its primary dns as well as gateway.  not right
[03:46] <slestak> i didnt have option set to override the default route.  now it appears to be working.
[03:46] <slestak> thanks for the hint `6og
[03:49] <`6og> slestak: well done :)
[04:01] <slestak> hmm, pinging by name for local machines doesnt work though
[04:11] <slestak> what is the necessity for the 127.0.1.1 line in /etc/hosts?  shouldnt the hostname be set on a line resolving to the nic?, i.e. 192.168.0.2?
[07:21] <nme> anyone noticed newly appeared hardy/intrepid (with ubuntu-desktop installed) in the network which is flooding ARP packets to destination 00:00:00:00:00:00 ? (it seems to be caused by gnome networkmanager)
[07:21] <nme> packets with 00:00:00:00:00:00 as a destination mac address are invalid, am I right? so why Ubuntu sends them?
[07:21] <nme> it might be caused by avahi, but none of my server instances with no X desktop do not cause it
[07:26] <nme> the problem is serious issue for me... when it happens, my gateway receives 140k pps on every vlan.. while during typical traffic it is 5k pps
[08:29] <_ruben> hmm .. what be the "standard" way of making sure a certain process is always running; upstart?
[08:30] <_ruben> other than figuring out why my postfix dkim milter keeps crashing ;)
[08:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> install solaris <flamebait> (in all seriousness, isnt there apps avilable via apt that do that? <if app exits, start it>
[08:34] <hads> monit is one
[08:47] <_ruben> i use daemontool on my old qmail servers .. tho what would prevent the monitoring app to die? guess it'd be monitored by upstart, so why not use upstart directly .. assuming upstart has that same feature as init has
[08:47] <_ruben> monit seems to have a fair chunk of features (judging from apt-cache show)
[09:27] <Jeeves_> How long does it take for packages to go from proposed to updates?
[09:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> Jeeves_, hey mate
[09:28] <Jeeves_> ola
[09:29]  * Jeeves_ is testing the Sun Open Storage 7110, btw
[09:29] <Jeeves_> good stuff
[09:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> lucky bugger
[09:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> my work was thinking about trialing the T2k, but we wont have any use for it in the near future, so i didnt get to play
[09:32] <_ruben> Jeeves_: it requires two acks, and then someone needs to notice those acks and upload it
[09:33]  * Kamping_Kaiser reads between the lines: "a long time"
[09:37] <Jeeves_> _ruben: An ack from anyone?
[09:41] <_ruben> Jeeves_: yes (based on a single experience)
[09:41] <_ruben> #ubuntu-motu is where the knowledgable people hang out wrt issues like these :)
[10:00] <Bleupomme> I have a very curious situation with ubuntu server and a DELL server. I have connection problems to the server. When I type ifconfig on the console it displays a MAC address of the type aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d6. but when I type arp -a on a client it displays a mac address of type aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d3 for the IP of the server. Could anyone tell me what is going on?
[10:00] <Nafallo> probably multiple network interfaces
[10:01] <Bleupomme> Yes there are two network interfaces. One with aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d6 and the other with aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d7 not finishing in d3
[10:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> Bleupomme, is there a switch/router in the middle?
[10:03] <Bleupomme> Kamping_Kaiser: yes there is a router. It has already been restarted
[10:11] <nme> Bleupomme: do pastebin.com of cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[10:14] <nme> anyone have a clue how to solve this? -> "CRON[18630]: Sigfile not found"
[10:15]  * Kamping_Kaiser suspects the routers mac addy is being picked up by arp
[10:18] <Bleupomme> nme: have no access to the server at the moment. Will try to do it soon
[10:20] <Bleupomme> nme: http://debian.pastebin.com/m1d35c2ca
[10:21] <Bleupomme> nme: everything seems ok. arp -a on a client gives the same mac adress but with the last byte set to d3
[10:22] <Bleupomme> could it come from some kind of redundant NIC on the server that has not been picked up by the kernel?
[10:38] <nme> Bleupomme: try to setup another IP address on one of the interfaces (in the same subnet), try to contact "client", and then check arp -a on the "client"
[10:47] <Bleupomme> nme: there is no network collision with that IP address. What makes me sceptic is that the entry in the ARP table is the same as the NIC's Mac addresses except for the last byte. There is no other recent DELL server in the network
[10:51] <nme> you can flush arp table and watch occurances of this arp through: tcpdump -i eth0 -en
[11:02] <Bleupomme> nme: could it be some NIC redundancy artefact?
[11:19] <nme> Bleupomme: naah
[11:19] <Bleupomme> I'm going to give up and call DELL support I think
[12:27] <hansin> Jared555: I saw your question on MySQL 5.1.  I am not sure of this, but the non-RPM tar.gz files might just be an unzip and run kind of thing, but I think you need to add a user and set some permissions.  You might want to do your homework in regards to that because I think I had an issue once with that.  Anyway, the files are here: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.1.html#linux
[13:35] <Scix> Using preseed: The last sensable log entry in syslog is "main-menu[2691]: INFO: Menu item
[13:36] <Scix> *'download-installer' selected
[13:36] <Scix> then i het wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not forund
[13:36] <Scix> *found
[13:36] <Scix> Anyone have a idea?
[13:36] <Scix> I have tried with both a local and a public mirror
[13:36] <Scix> same error
[13:40] <_ruben> Scix: how do you specify your mirror in your preseed file?
[13:40] <_ruben> and #ubuntu-installer is the place the hangout for stuff like this
[13:43] <Scix> apache logs says: 404 - /var/www/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/restricted/debian-installer
[13:43] <Scix> i use mirror/http/hostname
[13:46] <_ruben> Scix: you specify protocol as well?
[13:46] <_ruben> oh wait, apache log, i thought installer log :)
[13:47] <_ruben> that dir exists on my local mirror, so it oughta work with a public one as well
[13:52] <Scix> i aslo have a local mirror. I'm not spesifying protocol, bit it gets all orherfile, like the release file :S
[13:53] <Scix> sorry typos. Tired nowegian here ;)
[13:54] <_ruben> hehe, no problem
[14:11] <nme> guys I know the way how to DoS lan network with at least one ubuntu desktop with NetworkManager turned on ;)
[14:13] <nme> 1) setup a device with mac address 00:00:00:00:00:00
[14:13] <nme> 2) connect given device to the network
[14:13] <nme> 3) wait for ubuntu guy to restart his box
[14:14] <nme> 4) network will die in aprox 2-5 minutes
[14:17] <nme> (Gigabyte AccessPoint GN-AP01G, ver 1.10E does that by default)
[14:18] <_ruben> nasty
[14:18] <nme> it seems to be avahi related
[14:20] <nme> avahi uses 00:00:00:00:00:00 packets, found some example at centos support page - http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/print.php?form=2&forum=40&topic_id=15763&post_id=55427
[14:41] <netrat> i have a server running Ubuntu 8.04.1 that authorizes users against an MS domain controller using kerberos. sometimes the authentications take extremely long, 1-2mins, is there a way to see what part of the process is holding things up?
[14:41] <netrat> i've read the man page for pam_debug, but i can't make much sense out of it
[15:27] <slicslak> i screwed up fstab and now when i boot / is mounted read only.  i need to change fstab though.  how can i get it to mount rw?
[15:28] <yann2> mount -o rw,remount /
[15:29] <yann2> or something like that :)
[15:29] <slicslak> yann2, ya, tried that, but i get:
[15:29] <slicslak> mount: / not mounted already, or bad option
[15:33] <yann2> google for "mount remount"
[15:33] <yann2> its something with this :)
[15:41] <slicslak> ya, that's the right syntax alright
[15:41] <slicslak> but it doesn't work
[15:42] <slicslak> if mount would let me mount the drive a second time that would also be fine
[15:42] <_ruben> might need to kill the ' ' between -i and rw
[15:42] <_ruben> -o even
[15:51] <slicslak> _ruben, thanks tried that, doens't help.  :(
[15:51] <slicslak> i also tried -n which should do it without writing to /etc/mtab
[15:51] <slicslak> but that doesn't help
[15:51] <slicslak> anyone know how i can force mount to mount the drive somewhere else?
[15:51] <slicslak> so i can write to it there?
[16:20] <lamont> I wonder if there are errors logged during boot that tell you "ZOMG drive b0rked. mounting read only"
[16:21] <lamont> that's the only time I've seen that happen
[16:21] <lamont> alternate plan C: boot from livecd and mount the drive
[16:25] <yann2> syslog?
[16:58] <slicslak> lamont, i screwed up fstab.  that's why it's mounting read only.  so the fix is really easy but i only have ssh access.  :(
[17:05] <jjesse-dell9> are we acutally having the weekly mtg
[17:09] <ScottK> jjesse-dell9: No
[17:09] <jjesse-dell9> thanks ScottK
[17:44] <slicslak> heh, finally figured out the synatx.  it's:   mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /
[17:45] <slicslak> that is so wierd.  basically one extra command does it?  bizarre.
[17:52] <yann2> :)
[19:54] <Scix> does this guide apply to ubuntu 8.10 also? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror#Create%20the%20file%20%60mirrorbuild.sh%60
[20:05] <Scix> _ruben: Is there anything else but install debmirror I have to do to get your script to work?
[20:07] <angeleyes> can any 1 help
[20:07] <angeleyes> i want to add an account to empathy but it tell me to install a backend
[20:37] <Ng> woohoo!
[20:37] <coffeedude> Wahooo!!!!!!
[20:37] <nxvl> \o/
[20:37] <ivoks> yay!
[20:37] <jjesse-dell9> mmm buzzz
[20:37] <jdstrand>  5
[20:37] <jdstrand> o/
[20:38] <jjesse-dell9> server team gots it groove baqck
[20:38] <kees>      5
[20:38] <kees>     o/
[20:38] <coffeedude> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[20:38] <nealmcb> wow, the server team really rocks!
[21:00] <ajmitch> nealmcb: let me guess, the beer is flowing freely?
[22:31] <djwon1> kirkland: got some time to talk about pwrkap?
[23:15] <xenocampanoli> I just want to bring this up, but not bug it yet, as I may just be confused:  I had some troubles getting basic log output from Ubuntu/apache2.  What I found was ErrorLog definitions in the primary virtualhost definition for both http and https were not yielding much of my output, and I had to go back and define an ErrorLog in apache2.conf...???
[23:16] <xenocampanoli> In other words, my definitions in my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-??? thingy didn't get me all my output, but when I defined a third log file in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, I got the stuff.  What gives?
[23:26] <edge> The server i get to use from my virtual host. its nearly useless. is there a way to restore it to what originally comes with it from the install. Likes its missing wget, and file, and all kinds of important things including all the sources
[23:32] <sommer> edge: sudo tasksel install server ... probably
[23:35] <edge> what is that?
[23:36] <ivoks> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal
[23:36] <Deeps> those wont do much if the bins have just been deleted, rather than having had their packages removed though, surely?
[23:36] <edge> deeps should over write them again
[23:36] <edge> ivoks, i think thats what im looking for , will that work for the server as well?
[23:37] <edge> ivoks, i mean that ubuntu-standard will work for a server
[23:37] <ivoks> edge: yes
[23:37] <edge> Thank you Very much ivoks
[23:37] <Deeps> in my experience, apt simply tells you that the package is already installed, rather than actually checking that the files are there
[23:37] <ivoks> if binaries are deleted, then that won't help, that's true
[23:44] <`6og> --reinstall install