[00:00] <zsquareplusc> MrCollins: avidemux
[00:00] <flakeparadigm> fluxy: no I'm trying to use windows vista with a 3d desktop interface (BumpTop)
[00:00] <genii> cvd-pr: And of course the 64 bit kernels by default
[00:00] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: you're not talking about the 32 bit emulation that windows does automatically are you?
[00:00] <MrCollins> zsquareplusc, thanks
[00:00] <MrCollins> !avidemux
[00:00] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[00:00] <kitche> MrCollins: think cinerella(sp?) is in the repos
[00:00] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: no. you can also run some 32 app directly on ubuntu, when installing ia32-libs. e.g. google earth
[00:01] <cvd-pr> genii,  opensuse 11 has pae in 32bit
[00:01] <fluxy> MrCollins: Does it have a simple interface, à la Windows Movie Maker?
[00:01] <zsquareplusc> kitche: its not, and "simple"? ;-)
[00:01] <MrCollins> fluxy yes
[00:01] <kitche> zsquareplusc: hey I find it simple :)
[00:01] <cvd-pr> why ubuntu not?
[00:01] <MrCollins> kitche, it wont let me install what would be the apt-get command for cinerella?
[00:01] <genii> cvd-pr: So does *buntu, but as I described, it is the server kernel in 32 bit which has pae extensions
[00:01] <maicod> hi will ubuntu work when I host it on my linux-server and let a thin client network boot it and mount it over NFS ?
[00:01] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: I dont think vm's work well with graphical acceleration, you dont have access directly to the hardware....blabla
[00:01] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: lol, oh boy... it sounds like a lot of work if i don't have the command line experience... i guess what i am asking is am i going to be able to run this pretty close to how simple i was running 32 bit?
[00:02] <fluxy> MrCollins: Hmm...Interesting. Thanks I might look into that myself.
[00:02] <cvd-pr> genii,  so how i get pae in desktop edition?
[00:02] <flakeparadigm> fluxy: yeah. I just hat the thought of dual booting though.
[00:02] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: or do i need to do !chroot for almost every 32 bit install
[00:02] <cvd-pr> like openSuse
[00:02] <kitche> MrCollins: probably have to grab it off it's site
[00:02] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: yes i am being a little b*tch about asking questions
[00:02] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: so do I, but I have to, for the games...
[00:02] <genii> cvd-pr: Install kernel version. But be warned if you use restricted drivers which are i386 kernel-specific, that hardware will not work
[00:02] <fluxy> flakeparadigm: but in your case, Compiz has nice effects
[00:02] <MrCollins> kitche,  the only thing I dont like about kino is that it does not have a timeline and indicator
[00:02] <zsquareplusc> bdelin88: well 98% of the packages are simply installed with apt-get and you will not notive a difference between 32 and 64 bits. for the rest there is a) ia32-libs b) chroot c) virtual machines
[00:03] <dmsuperman> cvd-pr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5347489
[00:03] <zsquareplusc> s/notive/notice
[00:03] <dmsuperman> genii: Check this out: "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5347489"
[00:03] <flakeparadigm> fluxy: yeah, but it isn't anywhere near what bumptop is. Its a different type of effects
[00:03] <dmsuperman> genii: I used it to enable PAE on a normal kernel for me :D
[00:03] <bdelin88> zsquareplusc: alright, so you think i'll manage then? :)
[00:04] <cvd-pr> genii, in openSuse works, so maybe with ubuntu works too...
[00:04] <mcpancakes> in linux can I hot-swap mice without having to reboot?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> cvd-pr: With that guide you can rebuild your kernel with PAE enabled and still use a normal kernel
[00:05] <genii> cvd-pr: You could try.
[00:05] <dmsuperman> cvd-pr: I used it on my normal desktop :)
[00:05] <maicod> anyone familiar with booting Ubuntu over NFS ? (if it will work)
[00:05] <cvd-pr> dmsuperman,  ok thanks
[00:05] <jedi06> does redirection work immediately or does it only work after the program is done so foo.pl > bar
[00:05] <jedi06> does foo.pl have to finish before you see anything in bar ?
[00:06] <Nick_Meister> hello guy
[00:06] <Nick_Meister> s
[00:06] <Nick_Meister> i need help with nvidia drivers
[00:06] <maicod> jedoi06: I think you should see the file grow (logging in with another console)
[00:06] <zsquareplusc> mcpancakes: if it is usb, yes
[00:06] <arrenlex1> jedi06: It does not.
[00:06] <cvd-pr> im gona send a request to ubuntu so they make it create a packge for me
[00:06] <cvd-pr> :-)
[00:06] <mcpancakes> zsquareplusc: it is, I'll do that, thanks.
[00:06] <dmsuperman> cvd-pr: Heh, doubt that'll happen
[00:07] <Nick_Meister> i enable the driver
[00:07] <Nick_Meister> then the pc restarts
[00:07] <zsquareplusc> mcpancakes: shift+ctrl+numlock starts the keyboard mouse if it doesn't work ;-)
[00:07] <NotADJ> How do I make ubuntu look for a word in a directory of files.
[00:07] <Nick_Meister> and it tells me cant start x server no screens found
[00:07] <arrenlex1> !grep | NotADJ
[00:07] <cvd-pr> Its me or ubuntu 8.10 feels kinda slow
[00:07] <cvd-pr> ?
[00:08] <arrenlex1> NotADJ: That was way less helpful than I thought. grep -r "word" .
[00:08] <cvd-pr> 8.04 is fast
[00:08] <Nick_Meister> anyone?
[00:08] <junglist313> Nick_Meister: Are you trying to start COmpiz?  I think you have Metacity running
[00:08] <NotADJ> arrenlex1: Thanks
[00:08] <Nick_Meister> its a fresh install of ubuntu T.T
[00:08] <Nick_Meister> tried to turn on special effects
[00:08] <Nick_Meister> it ruined everything :S
[00:09] <fluxy> cvd-pr: depends on your hardware. on my old laptop 8.04 was slowish. on my new pc, 8.10 is flying with CompizFusion!
[00:09] <Nick_Meister> every time
[00:09] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas how to solve that?
[00:09] <Nick_Meister> its like im cursed or sometheing
[00:09] <Nick_Meister> i have 2 video cards and 2 screens
[00:09] <Nick_Meister> neither of them are working
[00:09] <bdelin88> i am kinda shocked how a long file copy has bogged down my system... seems much slower (although cpu only shows at 25%) (4 gb RAM, 3.4ghz CORE 2)
[00:09] <Nick_Meister> only a comman line
[00:10] <cvd-pr> fluxy, :-S
[00:10] <junglist313> Nick_Meister: I had this same issue and I am trying to remember how I fixed it
[00:10] <bdelin88> opening a file with a text editor took almost 10 seconds...
[00:10] <kiba_urufu> I need to fix my sudo command. everytime I run it i get the error "sudo: must be setuid root". Could this have anything to do with accidentally chmodding the /usr folder to 777?
[00:10] <Nick_Meister> O.O
[00:10] <kitche> kiba_urufu: most likely
[00:10] <dr_willis> kiba_urufu,  i think thats a big YES
[00:11] <dr_willis> a very very big YES. and other things may be broken now as well. :)
[00:11] <genii> Gah
[00:11] <zsquareplusc> recursively chmodded /usr?
[00:11] <arrenlex1> kiba_urufu: lmao, yes, it most likely is. Good job, you basically just made linux into windows :(
[00:11] <Nick_Meister> junglist313, is there a tutorial on this somewhere?
[00:11] <junglist313> Nick_Meister: download newest nvidia driver. put it in your home folder. then from command line try: sudo ./NVIDIA(whatever the driver is)
[00:11] <fluxy> cvd-pr: if you have enough RAM *sigh*, it should be fast (with a good gfx card, CompizFusion will work as well else, metacity is ok too)
[00:11] <kiba_urufu> yeah, i thought so. I tried to change it back to the original drwxr-xr-x root root but it didnt fix it. By how it sounds, its not fixable?
[00:11] <junglist313> Nick_Meister: I found it on the forums
[00:12] <danielbw> firfox is typing backwards
[00:12] <danielbw> what is going on
[00:12] <danielbw> firefox that is
[00:12] <Nick_Meister> lol its been possessed by the devil
[00:12] <Nick_Meister> XD
[00:12] <danielbw> how do i switch it so i can type normal
[00:12] <arrenlex1> kiba_urufu: You can try chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo
[00:12] <fluxy> danielbw: LoL
[00:12] <arrenlex1> kiba_urufu: Although I don't know how you can do that without being root, which you cannot do without using sudo.
[00:13] <zsquareplusc> danielbw: right click the text box, is there something about input methods?
[00:13] <danielbw> fluxy, it's rather funny, I know
[00:13] <arrenlex1> kiba_urufu: It may or may not fix sudo, but you may still have messed up a bunch of other things
[00:13] <nils_> hi
[00:13] <cvd-pr> fluxy,  amd xp 1.8ghz, 512 ddr 400hz ram, geforce 4mx 32mb :-S
[00:13] <fluxy> arrenlex1: perhaps at grub screen booting as root?
[00:13] <arrenlex1> fluxy: Ah, right, I forgot about that. That would work, thank you.
[00:13] <nils_> Is there some kind of minimal ubuntu image that I can netboot from that gives me a shell and a few necessary tools? Kind of like a live cd, just smaller and network bootable
[00:13] <danielbw> zsquareplusc, i dont see that option
[00:14] <NemesisD> ugh, anyone know how to keep vino-server from respawning? i have it disabled in remote desktop but every time i kill it it just responds in another proc
[00:14] <kiba_urufu> arrenlex1: alright. i usually just boot up as root. but yeah, as far as i've noticed only things that need me to start sudo are messed.
[00:14] <aarkerio> nils:  try Knoppix
[00:14] <zsquareplusc> nils_: what do you want?
[00:14] <aarkerio> or  freshmeat.net
[00:14] <zsquareplusc> aarkerio: that just as big as an ubuntu live cd
[00:14] <nils_> zsquareplusc: a rescue system
[00:14] <fluxy> cvd-pr: i really cant say much, it's the kind of thing you gotta try to know :S
[00:14] <mcpancakes> sweet, this mouse works, I guess I'll tell you all my story. This computer, a Dell OptiPlex GX620, is new from two days ago. It came with BIOS ver. A05, and a USB mouse (only two things relevant to the story). I was having a problem in Windows with, oh say half the time, single-clicks registering as double-clicks. I updated the BIOS to ver. A11, but that didn't fix it. Also, the problem also occurred in Ubuntu, so I knew it was either the h
[00:14] <mcpancakes> ardware or the BIOS. Anyways, I just plugged in a different USB mouse and it seems not to have the problem.
[00:14] <zsquareplusc> nils_: you can netboot the live cd, at least hardy.
[00:15] <nils_> zsquareplusc: hmm that would be quite large
[00:15] <aarkerio> there are a lot of rescue livecds on freshmeat.net
[00:15] <zsquareplusc> nils_: well it uses 600 MB on your server. but it doesn load all that to boot
[00:17] <Phervieira_MT> hello
[00:17] <Phervieira_MT> does anyone here speak english?
[00:17] <Phervieira_MT> or portuguese?
[00:17] <zsquareplusc> !pt
[00:17] <zsquareplusc> we understand english here
[00:17] <fluxy> Phervieira_MT: Hi! i think everyone speaks english
[00:17] <Pici> !en
[00:18] <Phervieira_MT> em português mesmo
[00:18] <Pici> Phervieira_MT: Not here, in #ubuntu-br
[00:18] <Phervieira_MT> ok
[00:18] <cvd-pr> What is the command to view all i has posted?
[00:19] <cvd-pr> xchat
[00:19] <NotADJ> GDM says: Logging in with cached credentials.
[00:20] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas  how to solve that?
[00:20] <zsquareplusc> dmsuperman: some tools have problems with restarting dbus. try to log out and in again
[00:20] <dmsuperman> zsquareplusc: I completely restarted X and dbus, I said that -_-
[00:21] <IdNotFound> guys, I'm having some weird mouse acceleration behaviour after upgrading to Intrepid. I usually play games on a second X server, but whenever I switch X servers, the display :0 (the one with GNOME) always resets my mouse acceleration to some default value, while display :1 (with the game) keeps its settings... any ideas why and/or how to fix?
[00:21] <zsquareplusc> dmsuperman: yeah you did. and a reboot?
[00:21] <IdNotFound> btw, I'm setting and checking them with "xset m" and "xset q"
[00:21] <Bsims> I am trying to install multiple distros on a thumb drive with unetbootlin how do I do so... aka what do I need to edit
[00:21] <dmsuperman> zsquareplusc: Not yet, prefer to avoid reboots when possible. I have a lot of hard drives to fsck when I do
[00:22] <dr_willis> Bsims,  you would have to do some manual configuring of the syslinux (or was it grub) boot loader on the drive.. and perhaps some  work at 'installing'  to the THumbdrive, and archive the isntall somewhere else. install next OS.. and move the first one back....
[00:22] <dr_willis> Bsims,  unetbootin may erase the first. if you install another on top
[00:22] <rustybox> so my cat pulled out my external drive's power supply while formatting.... now it wont' show up at all when I plug it in.... what do i do????
[00:22] <riddlebox> how stupid of dell to sell a laptop with ubuntu on it, but not make sure that it actually works correctly!
[00:22] <dr_willis> Bsims,  and of course different disrtos install in different 'ways' to a thumb drive
[00:22] <arrenlex> rustybox: Does gparted find it?
[00:23] <Bsims> dr_willis: thats the problem, how do I prevent it from doing so, I want ntpasswd and ophtcrack
[00:23] <dr_willis> rustybox,  fdisk it. delete partitions, remake them. format it again
[00:23] <arrenlex> rustybox: Plug it in and go to the partition manager, I think it's in system or admin. Is it listed?
[00:23] <rustybox> arrenlex, no, i was formatting it with gparted but now it won't
[00:23] <dr_willis> Bsims,  you will have to install each OS and see how thy install and manually tweak things.
[00:23] <dmsuperman> zsquareplusc: Though I found somebody else with the same problem and they restarted with no results
[00:23] <Bsims> Gah they really need to add an append feature to that thing
[00:23] <five_> how do i remove failed reposotitories
[00:23] <fluxy> rustybox: get a turtle? ;)
[00:23] <arrenlex> rustybox: Does the output of dmesg change when you plug it in?
[00:23] <five_> they make my downloads stop at 140 out of 142
[00:23] <dmsuperman> zsquareplusc: I've restarted dbus completely, and X, and networking, still nothing :(
[00:24] <rustybox> arrenlex, it's not showing up... are the filesystems damaged or something
[00:24] <badawi> i downloaded opera .deb from opera website, how do i install it?
[00:24] <rustybox> arrenlex, dmesg shows a bunch of gibberish, part of it says "buffer i/o error" or somethign like that
[00:24] <five_> never mind i think i got it
[00:24] <arrenlex> rustybox: well, that doesn't look promising.
[00:24] <fluxy> badawi: double-click on it, should open with gdebi
[00:24] <arrenlex> rustybox: Can you pastebin the relevant portion?
[00:24] <rustybox> arrenlex, yes
[00:25] <eeboy__> Any apache users here? I can't seem to find htpasswd2 to set a user and password...
[00:25] <Bsims> dr_willis: I cam
[00:25] <fluxy> badawi: or terminal -> dpkg -i /pathtodeb/opera.deb
[00:25] <ganymede> how can i see what version of a package i have installed in the package manager? i think for some reason, apt isn't upgrading a certain package, even though a newer one is available in the enabled repos
[00:25] <badawi> fluxy: thank you
[00:25] <roger_> i use lampp, alot easier to set up apache wiht
[00:25] <Bsims> dr_willis: Er I can't even find a good how to on it for the love of GNU
[00:25] <Bsims> I checked their useless wiki
[00:25] <IdleOne> ganymede, apt-cache policy package
[00:25] <zsquareplusc> dmsuperman: and system->prefs->network?
[00:25] <dr_willis> Bsims,  no idea then..  Ive seen 2gb thumb drives for $5 a pop.. I aint going to be doing much Multi-intall-hacking on my thumbdrives any time soon.
[00:25] <dmsuperman> ganymede: dpkg -l | grep package-name
[00:26] <dmsuperman> zsquareplusc: It's supposed to show up under the menu when you click on nm-applet
[00:26] <dr_willis> Bsims,  i did get PuppyLinux+Geexbox on one THumbdrive however. and Ihad to manually edit the boot configs
[00:26] <rustybox> arrenlex, http://pastebin.com/m1208abb6
[00:26] <Bsims> dr_willis: what file did you edit?
[00:26] <ganymede> IdleOne, dmsuperman, thanks
[00:26] <hlfshell> hey guys I'm having a weird problem - whenever I switch from "none" to "normal" on special effects i lost the title bars on my programs. If i run metacity -replace they come back, but then i have to do it again when i reboot. what can i do to fix this?
[00:26] <IdleOne> ganymede, np
[00:27] <rustybox> dr_willis, fdisk says "unable to open sdb"
[00:27] <zsquareplusc> dmsuperman: well, network manager seems to have changed a lot in the last releases. is the howto your follwing for your ubuntu flavor?
[00:27] <cliff_> i there any ermm adult channels on this?
[00:27] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: Do you have ccsm installed?
[00:27] <hlfshell> yes
[00:27] <Bsims> cliff_: try over on undernet.org
[00:27] <dmsuperman> zsquareplusc: As far as I can tell, yes
[00:27] <hlfshell> dmsuperman - yes*
[00:28] <dr_willis> rustybox,  you did use 'sudo' at the front?
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> rustybox: after the drive lost power. did you unplug it, powered again and plugged it in again?
[00:28] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: Open that up, then go to "decorator" and make sure you have "metacity --replace" under the decorator command
[00:28] <dr_willis> Bsims,  depends on th boot loader its using.. syslinux has its syslinux.cfg
[00:28] <Brack101> Anyone using Ubuntu Server for a file server on a Windows network with Samba?
[00:28] <arrenlex> rustybox: Ah, nothing except that, eh? I don't know, sorry. Google that error message, I guess... sorry I can't help.
[00:28] <hlfshell> trying that now dmsuperman...
[00:28] <dewente> Apache Tomcat ???? is this good for learn ??
[00:28] <hlfshell> cool dmsuperman - that did it. thanks!
[00:28] <Scunizi> I'm looking for a program in the repos that will allow me to generate a slide show of photos that I can burn to a DVD for playback on an LCD tv/dvd player.  If possible I'd like the ability to do audio overlay with it.
[00:28] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone besides me have Xorg taking up a lot of the cpu after an 8.10 upgrade?
[00:28] <rustybox> arrenlex, thanks anyways..
[00:28] <Bsims> dr_willis: Hrm and whatabout the gui something.32 leave that alone?
[00:29] <Jason_WT> Do any of yall use virtual box?
[00:29] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: Yup :)
[00:29] <dr_willis> Bsims,  no idea.. depends on the specific disrto you are messing with.
[00:29] <dr_willis> Bsims,  it pays to read the syslinux config/docs :) its a powerfull tool
[00:29] <Scunizi> Jason_WT: yep.. not the repo version though.. it doesn't have usb support
[00:29] <hlfshell> dmsuperman -  you meant "Window Decoration", right?
[00:29] <Bsims> dr_willis: Hrm I know both want their vesamenu.32
[00:29] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: Yeah something like that :P
[00:29] <zsquareplusc> U-b-u-n-t-u: do you have the correct driver for you video card or is it running the vesa driver? (/var/log/Xorg.log might help)
[00:29] <dewente> Apache Tomcat ???? is this good for learn ??
[00:30] <Jason_WT> i was wondering if i could install ubuntu on the virtual hard drive it creates?
[00:30] <hlfshell> k dmsuperman i should replace /usr/bin/compiz-decorator with metacity -replace ?
[00:30] <Pici> !ot | dewente
[00:30] <U-b-u-n-t-u> zsquareplusc I checked the driver with the hardware checker and I checked with envy both said it was the right driver?
[00:30] <zsquareplusc> Jason_WT: yes
[00:30] <dr_willis> Bsims,  i think that some how gives syslinux a nice looking menu.
[00:30] <koshari> ﻿what would be the easiest way to move the contents including directory from /a/b to / including hidden files and preserving all the file attributes?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Bsims,  its proberly not needed.. if you set up a simple text menu
[00:30] <Scunizi> Jason_WT: sounds like you're running vbox on a windows system.. yep.. just download the ISO of the version you want to try and have vbox install from the iso.
[00:30] <Bsims> Hrm I'l play some
[00:31] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: If you want to use metacity to decorate your windows. Personally I prefer to install emerald and just use emerald --replace, and I hear a lot of people have fewer problems with it
[00:31] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: But it also uses more resources
[00:31] <zsquareplusc> koshari: cp -ax ?
[00:31] <Jason_WT> how much ram and HD space should i create for it
[00:31] <Jason_WT> ?
[00:31] <hlfshell> can i just list metacity -replace or do i have tofind where that program is located dmsuperman ?
[00:31] <zsquareplusc> koshari: you really want to copy something to / ?
[00:31] <Scunizi> dmsuperman: I must be the exception.. I've had nothing but issues with emerald
[00:31] <dmsuperman> hlfshell: I think it's "--replace" but yeah you don't need to find it
[00:32] <koshari> zsquareplusc i accidently rsynced my filesys back to /a rater than /
[00:32] <dmsuperman> Scunizi: Odd, I really haven't heard of anybody having problems with it :P
[00:32] <Scunizi> Jason_WT: 6-8 gigs.. nice thing is you can delete it later.. as for memory, I think vbox defaults will work fine
[00:32] <koshari> zsquareplusc wont cp copy, i want to move, or i may as well rsync again but that will take 10 mins :-(
[00:32] <zsquareplusc> koshari: use rsync again if you know that tool well. or mv should preserve too?
[00:32] <Jason_WT> ok
[00:33] <koshari> zsquareplusc i will try the mv , i can always rsnc again if it fails
[00:33] <koshari> zsquareplusc do you know if there is a -r switch to include dirs?
[00:34] <lester_> #ubuntu-ru
[00:34] <nbeebo> anyone know a good desktop desktop switcher?
[00:34] <zsquareplusc> koshari: no, but if you mv a directory its folder is also moved
[00:34] <Scunizi> koshari: grsync is a nice gui front end for rsync.. not complete but functional for basic stuff .
[00:34] <zsquareplusc> koshari: and you can mv /b/* /
[00:34] <dmsuperman> nbeebo: Desktop switcher?
[00:35] <nbeebo> dmsuperman, meant desktop workspace switcher sorry
[00:35] <dmsuperman> nbeebo: Window switcher?
[00:35] <dmsuperman> nbeebo: Compiz has a few great options
[00:35] <dmsuperman> nbeebo: The cube, the wall, expo
[00:35] <terminhell> Hey does anyone have a verizon LG ENV2 phone?
[00:35] <nbeebo> dmsuperman i know but i need something that supports it that u can have on the desktop
[00:35] <zloog> terminhell: Why?
[00:35] <Scunizi> Jason_WT: if this is your first experience with linux then caution!  don't expect it to act or be controlled like windows. There is an initial learning curve you have to go through.
[00:36] <terminhell> zloog: cuz im trying to sync it =/
[00:36] <nbeebo> dmsuperman non kde/xfce/gnome-panel stuff
[00:36] <zloog> terminhell: sync what to what?
[00:36] <terminhell> zloog: the phone to my laptop
[00:36] <terminhell> zloog: so i can transfer music to it
[00:36] <zloog> terminhell: music/contacts/pics?
[00:36] <dmsuperman> nbeebo: Oh, I'm not sure of something with little pictures, I prefer hotkeys
[00:36] <zloog> terminhell: What troubles you having?
[00:36] <dmsuperman> nbeebo: AWN has a workspace switcher applet
[00:37] <terminhell> zloog: it just fails to sync period. i try but nothing happens. the phone tells me the connection failed
[00:37] <nbeebo> dmsuperman hmmm yeah reminds me i can get desktop widgets
[00:37] <zloog> terminhell: what program are you using?
[00:37] <paul567> Howdy
[00:37] <ksakjas_> how do i show what threads are running?
[00:37] <zsquareplusc> ksakjas_: terminal?: ps or top
[00:38] <terminhell> zloog: ive tried several, amorok, exaile, rthm box and vlc
[00:38] <zloog> terminhell: Theres a program for doing the xfer but i dont think any standard progs will do it for you
[00:38] <zloog> terminhell: im trying to find it for you
[00:38] <zloog> terminhell: bitpim is in the repos. you need that
[00:39] <jedi06> how do you start the frontend gui for postgres?
[00:39] <terminhell> zloog: ya it can be done via windows mplayer 10+...but i dont wanna have to do a vitural box just for this task
[00:39] <zloog> terminhell: the LG os wont just play mp3 files you throw at it though, it needs to convert
[00:39] <Cosik> sorcery.net
[00:39] <zloog> terminhell: ive verified it works with bitpim
[00:39] <cbagov> anick string
[00:39] <terminhell> zloog: hmmk ill give that a try, thx!
[00:40] <zloog> terminhell: np
[00:40] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas  how to solve that?
[00:41] <deever> is there a way to ifup a bridge without any children?
[00:41] <deever> in /etc/network/interfaces, bridge_ports cannot be omitted or left empty
[00:41] <jedi06> i have intrepid
[00:41] <terminhell> zloog: 1 more thing, will i have to do anything beyond plugin the phone in?
[00:42] <jedi06> how do you use the pgAdmin 3 for postgres?
[00:42] <IdNotFound> guys, I'm having some weird mouse acceleration behaviour after upgrading to Intrepid. I usually play games on a second X server, but whenever I switch X servers, the display :0 (the one with GNOME) always resets my mouse acceleration to some default value, while display :1 (with the game) keeps its settings... any ideas why and/or how to fix? (I'm setting and checking them with "xset m" and "xset q")
[00:42] <zloog> terminhell: nope, plug your phone in and press get data
[00:42] <zloog> terminhell: then put ur music into the music section there and press send data
[00:43] <zloog> terminhell: iirc, dont have my phone with me atm
[00:43] <terminhell> zloog: sweet, gonna give it a try in a few, ill let ya know how it goes
[00:43] <dmsuperman> After installing network-manager-pptp, restarting X, and restarting dbus, my nm-applet only lists "Manual configuration" as an option, nothing about VPN. Any ideas  how to solve that?
[00:43] <zloog> terminhell: your phone treats ringtones and music deiffrently btw, and if you want a ringtone 99pct of the time you are going to need to use audacity to amplify it
[00:44] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm running 8.10, wired.  I'm doing dhclient eth0 - It shows as getting an offer from my local router, but keeps on making DHCPREQUESTS - never accepting the offer.  Any ideas why this would be happening?
[00:45] <echinos> Ok, I just quit a game of SuperTuxKart. Now, the music is in a neverending loop, although the game window is gone. I'm getting an endless tenth-second of sound repeated... how do I find out what is stuck and unstick it?
[00:45] <luddite> ive had hell with network-manager after upgrading to latest kernel
[00:46] <luddite> i dont believe i will update again
[00:46] <echinos> I tried lsof | grep dsp, no luck, and tuxkart is not running any more
[00:46] <luddite> too many things breeeak
[00:46] <pepparkaka> jedi06, tried running pgadmin3 ?
[00:47] <echinos> I also tried /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[00:47] <pepparkaka> jedi06, what error message did you get when you tried running it ?
[00:47] <IdNotFound> echinos: can you play any other sound on it?
[00:47] <echinos> IdNotFound: haven't tried, one sec
[00:49] <echinos> IdNotFound: seems not, other sound progs (rhythmbox, mplayer) don't even try to play, it seems. No useful messages from mplayer
[00:49] <IdNotFound> echinos: try `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp`
[00:50] <echinos> oh, here we go: AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Timeout
[00:50] <echinos> device or resource busy
[00:50] <five_> how do i get my cube to resemble a globe in compiz?
[00:50] <pepparkaka> echinos, in a command shell, try ps aux |grep -i tux                    \n it could still have some process running in the background
[00:51] <echinos> tried that, it's not there :(
[00:51] <echinos> grep for dsp returns nothing as well
[00:51] <IdNotFound> echinos: try `fuser -mv /dev/dsp`, it used to help me finding stuff blocking sound... try the ones with the 'm' flag first (I have no idea what's behind this, it's empirical)
[00:51] <echinos> I'm stumped
[00:52] <IdNotFound> echinos: most stuff won't actually be USING the device, though... so don't worry about the big list
[00:52] <jedi06> pepparkaka it says i need to install it
[00:53] <pepparkaka> echinos, do you have the pulseaudio applet in your taskbar ?
[00:53] <echinos> crap, there's a lot of stuff using it, but nothing with m
[00:53] <echinos> pepparkaka: no, just the mixer
[00:53] <NotADJ> Fixed!
[00:53] <NotADJ> How do I disable the "On this Computer" folder in evolution?
[00:53] <NotADJ> \/win
[00:53] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm running 8.10, wired.  I'm doing dhclient eth0 - It shows as getting an offer from my local router, but keeps on making DHCPREQUESTS - never accepting the offer.  Any ideas why this would be happening?
[00:55] <IdNotFound> echinos: I'm out of ideas, you might want to do a reboot :(
[00:55] <echinos> IdNotFound: well, I can just ctrl-alt-bksp for this
[00:56] <IdNotFound> echinos: sure, do that first if you can...
[00:56] <pepparkaka> echinos, well in the mixer context menu, is there a manager option ?
[00:56] <echinos> I've had odd sound problems for a while
[00:56] <echinos> pepparkaka: nope
[00:57] <maxb_> What is the proper place to put hdparm settings such that they get re-applied at resume time? /etc/hdparm.conf apparently isn't
[00:57] <pepparkaka> echinos, run it manually. the executable is named paman
[00:57] <echinos> I have no such exe
[00:57] <echinos> need root?
[00:58] <pepparkaka> jedi06, then install it. You should be able to find it in synaptic (under the system menu)
[00:58] <FEEL> ciao
[00:58] <pepparkaka> echinos, depends if you run pulseaudio as root or not. just try gksu, it should sort it for you
[00:58] <echinos> installing paman....
[00:59] <echinos> paman gives "Connection refused"
[00:59] <echinos> so no info
[01:01] <earthmeLon> Hey buddies :D
[01:01] <crumple> are there any bazaar plugins for code::blocks?
[01:01] <pepparkaka> echinos, then I don't know, paman doesn't accept any options because it should connect to your default source.
[01:02] <terminhell> zloog: hmmm same thing
[01:02] <echinos> very odd
[01:02] <TecR0c> What is the command to cut and paste a folder ?
[01:02] <echinos> well, 3-finger-salute time
[01:02] <jrib> TecR0c: mv
[01:02] <jrib> !cli > TecR0c
[01:02] <genii> TecR0c: mv
[01:02] <janisx> join #ubuntu-gr
[01:03] <pepparkaka> echinos, have you tried to SIGHUP the pulseaudio processes ?
[01:03] <nex3> I've upgraded my MacBook to intrepid, and now X won't start
[01:03] <earthmeLon> I was messing around on my server through my gnome-terminal via SSH and then forgot I was logged into the remote system and started doing things I wanted to do on my computer.  I was wondering if there was a way that I could make the default color of my gnome-terminal XXX but if it's SSH'd to a server, have it be another color.
[01:03] <nex3> The output of startx is at http://gist.github.com/33708
[01:03] <jrib> nex3: just works for me.  Which macbook?
[01:04] <nex3> jrib: I'm not sure... how would I check?
[01:04] <jrib> nex3: is it the latest one or the one that was solid white/black?
[01:04] <test34> Where can I find a list of patches Ubuntu developpers add to the kernel ?
[01:04] <nex3> I got it spring 2007, I think, so pretty old
[01:04] <nex3> jrib: solid white
[01:04] <jrib> nex3: pastebin xorg.conf.  How did you upgrade?
[01:05] <bet> oi
[01:05] <nex3> jrib: I'm not using an xorg.conf... I've heard that's supposed to work
[01:05] <nex3> I have tried it with a simple auto-generated one with the same results
[01:05] <nex3> I could paste that if you want
[01:06] <nex3> And I upgraded using sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:06] <WorldDomination> hi - whats the best way of creating an admin user along with the user group "admin" or "admins" with associated privileges (not graphically, but in the shell)
[01:06] <WorldDomination> unfortunately, the only stnadard user group which could serve is adm
[01:07] <nex3> It's possible my upgrade was disrupted and restarted at some point
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> uhm guys
[01:07] <nex3> I'm not sure what to do about that, though
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> i installed the latest ubuntu drivers
[01:07] <maxb_> WorldDomination: Don't use adm for that - adm has a very standard purpose: "Can read system logs"
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> the xserver wont start anyways
[01:07] <kam1lly> hey guys, I have a question
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> says no screens found
[01:07] <WorldDomination> hm maxb - how then ?
[01:07] <kam1lly> I use debris linux, I'm quite new
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> why is it torturing me so
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> ok i have a problem with xserver
[01:07] <kam1lly> what command would I put into the command line to install a driver?
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> installed the latest drivers from nvidia
[01:07] <Nick_Meister> says no screens found
[01:08] <rogan> whats best utility for riping dvds?
[01:08] <maxb_> WorldDomination: well, what do you mean by admin user? That's "root", surely?
[01:08] <earthmeLon> kam1lly what are you trying to intsall?
[01:08] <kam1lly> an ati driver
[01:08] <Nick_Meister> ::(
[01:08] <jrib> nex3: erm.  Are you sure there does not exist /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:08] <rww> !root
[01:08] <rww> !sudo
[01:09]  * maxb_ lols at that factoid
[01:09] <WorldDomination> maxb_: if you like, I want a root user, with same right, except that they need to do "sudo" for system tasks like mounting a new device
[01:09] <dmsuperman> !pptp
[01:09] <kam1lly> file:///home/kam1lly/Desktop/ati-driver-installer-8-11-x86.x86_64.run is exactly what I'm trying to install
[01:09] <WorldDomination> or mapping it
[01:09] <dmsuperman> !vpn
[01:09] <nex3> jrib: I've tried it both with and without xorg.conf
[01:09] <earthmeLon> kam1lly apt-get install <WHATEVER> installs things to your computer.  You can do apt-cache search <WHATEVER> to search for things you want.  So, you could try apt-cache search Envy
[01:09] <kam1lly> ok
[01:09] <maxb_> WorldDomination: so... you want a normal user that is authorized to sudo?
[01:09] <WorldDomination> but basically I want them to be able to inspect e.g. the svn directory and write there
[01:09] <earthmeLon> kam1lly EnvyNG is a good program that installs the latest Nvidia and ATI drivers on yoru system
[01:10] <nex3> The xorg.conf I tried is at http://gist.github.com/33709
[01:10] <jrib> nex3: you didn't answer my other question.  How did you upgrade?
[01:10] <WorldDomination> maxb_ : well, yes - would you recommend that ?
[01:10] <nex3> jrib: sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:10] <pasteeater> what shell command can i use to get info on a usb device that is currently plugged in?
[01:10] <earthmeLon> kam1lly the website for Envy is http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html .
[01:10] <WorldDomination> I want my team to be able to be admin on this server
[01:10] <kam1lly> thanks alot
[01:10] <WorldDomination> so I think the best approach would be to create admin accounts for them
[01:10] <kam1lly> I think this might work
[01:11] <earthmeLon> kam1lly: NP.  Just remember you might have to use sudo before some commands to run them as root.
[01:11] <Nick_Meister> nobody is willing to help me T.T
[01:11] <earthmeLon> Whats the problem Nick_Meister?
[01:11] <maxb_> WorldDomination: Have you noticed that Ubuntu ships with an 'admin' group which has the right to sudo, by default? :-)
[01:11] <nex3> jrib: It's possible my upgrade was disrupted and restarted at some point
[01:11] <WorldDomination> maxb_ well not on mine
[01:11] <gnutron> pasteeater: lsusb -vvv
[01:12] <pasteeater> gnutron: thanks
[01:12] <WorldDomination> I did a vi /etc/groups
[01:12] <maxb_> WorldDomination: hmm, how odd
[01:12] <intrinsic-ubiqui> ubuntu is crazy man i didnt have to configure anything and it all works.
[01:12] <WorldDomination> there is no admin group there
[01:12] <WorldDomination> sorry
[01:12] <WorldDomination> vi /etc/group
[01:12] <Nick_Meister> earthmeLon, i have a problem where i start my pc and xserver errors out saying no screens found
[01:12] <maxb_> Well, you don't even need a group, really, you can just grant authority to individual users in /etc/sudoers
[01:13] <WorldDomination> oh ok
[01:13] <WorldDomination> is there a howto for that somewhere ?
[01:13] <mcpancakes> if my Ubuntu installation is on a USB HDD, and I 'suspend', would it be okay to remove my hard drive? And before I come back, put it back in?
[01:13] <x264> I need help setting up a pptp server. http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/diagnose-forwarding.phtml <--- in test #1, I get a ping reply but tcpdump running on the server does not show any packets
[01:13] <pepparkaka> earthmeLon, change the shell settings to some different colours on the server ? Or select which env parameters get passed with the sendenv and PATTERN functions in your ssh_config (must be supported by server). Or alias your ssh client to a shell file that spawns a new shell in different colours and passes on the input paramters.
[01:14] <samd_> hi, is there any python/gtk programming channel?
[01:14] <earthmeLon> pepparkaka.  A script that passes the colors to another terminal sounds like the easiest solution (although I'm not sure how to go about that).  I will look up some information.  Thanks for the suggestion :D
[01:15] <nex3> jrib: No ideas, then?
[01:15] <kam1lly> hmm, sorry guys, but I seem to be missing something, I tried this guide (http://www.albertomilone.com/envyfaq.html#A) and the first step doesn't work
[01:15] <kam1lly> whenever I put cd in front I can't complete a line
[01:15] <pepparkaka> earthmeLon, yeah aliasing is often easy.. Just remember that someday it will come back and bite you in the behind when you're using another computer that doesn't have your nifty alias :)
[01:16] <lordapex> i got an ATI video card and an Nvidia.  I have dual monitors on the nvidia and want to use the ATI card for my TV, not sure on the linux term for this?
[01:16] <earthmeLon> kam1lly what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:16] <kam1lly> debris linux
[01:16] <kam1lly> :)
[01:17] <earthmeLon> Do you have apt installed kam1lly?
[01:17] <jrib> nex3: I don't understand why you say "it's possible my upgrade was disrupted".  Was it or wasn't it?
[01:17] <kam1lly> but it utilizes the same features does it not?
[01:17] <Scunizi> lordapex: you might have to build xorg.conf by hand.. this won't be an easy task
[01:17] <nex3> jrib: I didn't think so, but I wasn't paying full attention while it was happening, and my laptop occasionally loses internet connections and stuff like that
[01:18] <TarBar> I just moved something to the trash can and then back out, how do i get rid of the padlock icon that is on it
[01:18] <earthmeLon> kam1lly, if you have APT installed try sudo apt-get install envyng or sudo apt-get install envy-ng
[01:18] <pepparkaka> Scunizi, wouldn't it be easier to try grandr or similar first ? manually doing xorg.conf seems to break more than fix things in the newer versions of xorg
[01:18] <jrib> nex3: ok.  Let me boot up my macbook real quick
[01:18] <lordapex> scunizi: i figure that much, but im up for the task just dont know where to go for some info on that
[01:18] <maxb_> WorldDomination: I agree sudoers is a fairly mindbending file format, but I'd still suggest reading "man sudoers". By way of an example:   root,maxb,%admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL      means that root, maxb, and people in the admin group can run, on ALL hosts (that's a feature to allow a single sudoers file to be shared for a whole network), as ALL (any) user, ALL (any) command, without needing to confirm their password
[01:18] <kam1lly> it says e: couldn't find package
[01:18] <Scunizi> pepparkaka: probably.. I'm not familure with grandr
[01:19] <earthmeLon> kam1lly once you get Envy installed, run sudo envy -g to run the graphical interface for Envy
[01:19] <earthmeLon> kam1lly do sudo apt-cache search envy and look at what it finds
[01:19] <genii> !envyng
[01:20] <jrib> nex3: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log since that seems to be more verbose
[01:20] <earthmeLon> Thanks genii
[01:20] <Scunizi> lordapex: pepparkaka mentioned a program that I didn't know existed.. grandr which is the graphical front end of xrandr.  xrandr is what currently drives the x setup.. not xorg.conf.
[01:20] <TarBar> I just moved something to the trash can and then back out, how do i get rid of the padlock icon that is on it
[01:20] <genii> earthmeLon: np
[01:20] <ardchoille> is there a python IDE? I'm starting to get deeper into python programming and it's more fun than I thought.
[01:21] <usser> ardchoille, eric
[01:21] <nex3> jrib: http://gist.github.com/33709
[01:21] <maukebali> denpasar
[01:21] <ubuntu_livecd> im on the ubuntu livecd and need to burn some files to dvd, ive got ubuntu live on a cdrom drive and the blank disc on a dvd burner....which app can burn in live mode? i assume i need to install it
[01:21] <pepparkaka> lordapex : http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12              \n    Yes, I realize that  is not for ubuntu but it might give some helpful pointers.
[01:21] <kam1lly> when I did an apt-cache search I found alsa-tools-gui
[01:21] <kam1lly> I installed that
[01:21] <kam1lly> now how do I use it?
[01:21] <ardchoille> is there a python IDE that uses gtk?
[01:22] <lordapex> pepparkaka: linux is linux right
[01:22] <dr_willis> lordapex,  for the most part yes
[01:22] <luddite> ok- ubuntu /firefox3.0 i cant open swf files from the filesystem unless they are embedded in a html page. firefox will always try to save the file. any ideas. (wrog channel?)
[01:22] <fulld> hello, I trashed my httpd.conf, what is the best way to "reinstall" adache2?
[01:22] <samd_> is there any python or gtk irc channel?
[01:22] <pepparkaka> lordapex, yah. But first try grandr , it's supposedly very GUI-ish and user friendly.
 Right-click it.. pick properties..  go to "permission" tab and give yourself "read only" then change it back to "read/write" again
[01:22] <aktiwers> TarBar:  Right-click it.. pick properties..  go to "permission" tab and give yourself "read only" then change it back to "read/write" again
[01:22] <jrib> fulld: purge apache-commond and reinstall apache2
[01:23] <bonhoffer> i am trying to do penetration testing of my wireless network using ubuntu 8.10 -- is there a good channel to help with this?
[01:23] <jrib> fulld: purge apache2.2-common and reinstall apache2
[01:23] <kam1lly> when I did an apt-cache search I found alsa-tools-gui
[01:23] <kam1lly> I installed it using apt-get install
[01:23] <kam1lly> how do I utilze it?
[01:23] <fulld> jrib: thank you much
[01:24] <earthmeLon> try running kam1lly  alsa-tools-gui ?
[01:24] <abouche1> hey how do i install thunderbird
[01:24] <earthmeLon> kam1lly I highly suggest Envy.  Download the deb, install it and run it.  It's never failed for me.
[01:24] <kam1lly> I can't find it in my applications drop down, I'm quite new at this
[01:24] <kam1lly> I could not find the deb
[01:24] <jrib> fulld: you're supposed to use apache2.conf by the way
[01:24] <kam1lly> and I did a cache search of envy and I found that
[01:25] <der|kunstler> is there any tool in ubuntu in which I can measure the processor / memory usage of a specific program
[01:25] <fulld> jrib: thanks, im upgrading from my 1x conf
[01:25] <ardchoille> abouche1: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[01:25] <abouche1> i tried that
[01:25] <ardchoille> abouche1: and?
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[01:25] <abouche1> nothing i also tried synaptic and no luck either
[01:26] <roger_> how i remove the font shading on ubuntu desktop
[01:26] <der|kunstler> aktiwers, yeah, but I remember in my old tmes on the shell, that there was a program, I don't know if it was time or something
 or go to System =>Administration => System Monitor
[01:26] <kam1lly> how do I download the envy deb package?
[01:26] <der|kunstler> aktiwers, I'm programming a software and I did some memory saving stuff, and I want to see how well they worked
[01:26] <ardchoille> abouche1: It's in main, which release are you using? lsb_release -a | grep -i release
[01:27] <der|kunstler> aktiwers, thanks
[01:27] <earthmeLon> kam1lly  what happens if you do sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk ?
[01:27] <phoenixz> Hi there, I have a server which has a directory exported to another server over NFS. Some of the files there are called something like bama20081117_08.txt_RESULTS_18-Nov-2008_01-01-50-765.txt. Now all of the sudden, files like these are showing up: .nfs000000000001800700000004_RESULTS_31-Oct-2008_18-06-49-093.txt.. Does anybody know if this could be some sort of NFS problem I don't know about?
[01:27] <kam1lly> couldn't find package earthmelon
[01:28] <abouche1> im using hardy
 no problem
[01:28] <jrib> nex3: tried a live cd?  Does that work okay?
[01:29] <ardchoille> abouche1: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[01:29] <ardchoille> !paste | abouche1
[01:29] <abouche1> what do you mean
[01:29] <nex3> jrib: Hardy LiveCDs work fine, but I haven't tried Intrepid
[01:29] <nex3> I don't have one handy, though
[01:30] <clickster> Hello, I am  getting E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:30] <clickster> E: _cache->open() failed, please report. when I am trying to update my ubuntu 64bits
[01:30] <clickster> can anyone help?
[01:30] <ardchoille> abouche1: I mean pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list so I can look at it, you have a problem and I am trying to help you fix it.
[01:30] <rww> clickster: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[01:30] <Winball> clickster: What happens when you do dpkg --configure -a ?
[01:31] <earthmeLon> kam1lly  have you ever compiled anything from source before?
[01:31] <clickster> sorry, I just installed ubuntu... where is sudo?
[01:31] <MegaJim> anybody know how to enable the pc speaker?
[01:31] <kam1lly> not that I know of
[01:31] <rww> !sudo | clickster
[01:31] <jrib> nex3: here's the log on my macbook, though we have different versions (mine's 4.1)
[01:31] <rww> clickster: you'd type that command in the terminal
[01:31] <kam1lly> the most I've done is installed things via apt-get install
[01:31] <clickster> thanks
[01:31] <jrib> nex3: http://pastebin.com/f63ee508e
[01:31] <pepparkaka> bonhoffer, try #kismet
[01:31] <test34> MegaJim, right click on speaker in the top right - preferences
[01:32] <MegaJim> thanks test34, it is enabled
[01:32] <bonhoffer> pepparkaka, thanks
[01:32] <MegaJim> however terminal bell et all does not create a beep
[01:32] <jrib> nex3: gdm fails too?
[01:32] <MegaJim> i know the pc speaker works under vista
[01:32] <Wunk> Simple question: What file system is preferable when installing ubuntu on a standard PC?
[01:32] <rww> Wunk: ext3
[01:32] <Wunk> thanks
[01:32] <tiyowan> Wunk: ext3
[01:32] <MonthOLDpickle> How do you choose?
[01:33] <nex3> jrib: Yeah, gdm is weird
[01:33] <MonthOLDpickle> when you install??
[01:33] <earthmeLon> Okay, kam1lly open up a terminal window and go to a directory where you want to work from (your home directory should work fine).  Then do wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/legacy/envy_0.9.10-0ubuntu10.tar.gz  .  Wget downloads files from the internet to your computer.  Then you will do tar -xvzf FILENAME to deflate the archive (like unzipping a file).  Let me know when this is complete or you've got another question.
[01:33] <jrib> nex3: weird in what way?
[01:33] <nex3> jrib: It starts, gives the right color background, but never loads the login screen
[01:33] <nex3> The cursor alternates between spinning and the normal cursor
[01:33] <jrib> nex3: anything interesting in gdm logs?
[01:33] <nex3> No, same as startx
[01:33] <MonthOLDpickle> how do you install in ext3
[01:34] <test34> MegaJim, try modprobe pcspkr ?
[01:34] <MonthOLDpickle> damn since the installation of linux my windows runs slow..
[01:35] <MonthOLDpickle> and I can't see that hard drive anymore in windows
[01:35] <Kevin___> Hi, is anyone here?
[01:35] <MegaJim> it was already there test34, and no difference :(
[01:35] <jrib> nex3: use http://pastebin.com/f72979458 just to rule xorg.conf out as the culprit
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> bah nvm guys
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> THANKS
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> also
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> lets see if you answer this
[01:36] <kam1lly> earthmeLon, I "unzipped" the file
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> nvidia
[01:36] <FloodBot3> MonthOLDpickle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <mker> MonthOLDpickle, Please keep your question in *one* message. It makes it easier for us to read and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[01:36] <MonthOLDpickle> how do you get the drivers installed
[01:36] <emarvets> sudo -s
[01:36] <pepparkaka> MonthOLDpickle, which drivers ?
[01:36] <emarvets> apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[01:37] <Kevin___> Hi Everyone - I'm trying to setup my first Ubuntu installation. I'm running Ubuntu Desktop and am trying to configure it to run Wordpress. I'm having huge issues with the repositories, though. When I update the repositories from the Terminal, I'm getting about 90% 404 errors.
[01:37] <nex3> jrib: Can you give me the raw link? I'm stuck in text mode
[01:37] <JanekMZ211> hello everyone.  I need help with fstab. I have this line " /dev/sdc6	/home/janek/178GB vfat  users,rw,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0  " for mounting partitions, but when I boot my pc the partitions mount as read-only.  But if i umount and then mount, i can write to the partitions
[01:37] <jrib> nex3: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=f72979458 does that work?
[01:37] <kam1lly> earthmeLon, I "unzipped" the file
[01:37] <pepparkaka> Kevin___, that's odd. Have you modified your sources.list  or edited repository settings in synaptic ?
[01:38] <MonthOLDpickle> So I can't use the thign that pops up to install nvidia drivers?
[01:38] <Kevin___> I only edited it after I was having trouble. I'm running Feisty Fawn.
[01:38] <earthmeLon> Cool, now you should be able to cd to that directory, so type cd <DIRECTORY>
[01:38] <jrib> !feisty | Kevin___
[01:38] <earthmeLon> type ls to find the options you can change to
[01:38] <mker> MonthOLDpickle, system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[01:38] <piklesonfire> JanekMZ211, change the gid to your user's group id?
[01:39] <MonthOLDpickle> !nvidia
[01:39] <Kevin___> ubottu: do I have to upgrade to Intrepid?
[01:39] <eseven73> how do i change the 5 min cacheing of sudo to an hour?
[01:39] <nex3> jrib: THe link works, but the conf file doesn't
[01:40] <emarvets> NEED HELP - 8.10 x64 - did sudo -s -> apt-get install nvidia-glx-177, after reboot I'm dropped to a terminal, cannot startx, no devices detected, no screens found - uninstall of restricted drivers leaves me in the same state
[01:40] <jrib> nex3: same Xorg.0.log?
[01:40] <aktiwers> eseven73: Why not use sudo su if you want to be root for that long?
[01:40] <abouche1> ﻿ I ran gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and nothing happened, what's up?
[01:41] <jrib> emarvets: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  What card do you have?
[01:41] <Winball> emarvets: Have you tried /usr/bin/jockey-gtk ?
[01:41] <eseven73> aktiwers: didnt know if that would be safer that way or not
[01:41] <piklesonfire> abouche1, the command for gksudo is gksu try that instead
[01:41] <nex3> jrib: Not sure... here's the new one: http://gist.github.com/33716
[01:41] <MonthOLDpickle> Can I click on enabled restricted drivers and it will install the nvida driver?
[01:41] <aktiwers> eseven73: Oops..  I don't know that either :)
[01:41] <JanekMZ211> piklesonfire, ok let me try will have to do a reboot
[01:41] <ardchoille> piklesonfire: gksudo is a symlink to gksu it works either way
[01:41] <piklesonfire> JanekMZ211, i'll be here, just let me know
[01:42] <piklesonfire> ardchoille, haha, good to know also.
[01:42] <Kevin___> When I try and install Apache, I'm getting the error "Depends: apache2-mpm-worker but it is not going to be installed or apache2-mpm-prefork but is not going to be installed or apache2-mpm-event but it is not going to be installed
[01:42] <emarvets> jrib GeForce 7600 GT
[01:42] <eseven73> yeah aktiwers some website said to look in visudo but there is nothing there allowing you to change the 5 min timeout setting, ah well sudo su it is :)
[01:42] <abouche1> nothing again should i just do a clean install because i just put ubuntu on a few days ago
[01:43] <abouche1> but i have used it in the past
[01:43] <jrib> emarvets: congrats, we have the same card
[01:43] <piklesonfire> Kevin___, if you try to manually install those with Apache, what type of error do you get?
[01:43] <abouche1> nothing this bad though
[01:43] <emarvets> jrib: hope you have answer then :)
[01:43] <jrib> emarvets: need logs first :)
[01:43] <aktiwers> eseven73: yeah sorry I don't know how to change it.. I always use sudo su or sudo -i
[01:43] <emarvets> jrib: getting, in middle of reboot
[01:44] <Kevin___> piklesonfire: "...Have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added." I was sure to add the universe and multiverse repositories
[01:44] <maxb_> Are there updated versions of linux-backports-modules out there with newer compat-wireless versions, by any chance? Perhaps in a PPA?
[01:44] <eseven73> aktiwers: thats cool, i usually use sudo -i for long term stuff anyways
[01:44] <ChrisDavaz> I can't get my external microphone input to work in Ubuntu 8.10. I have already tried muting the internal (and "docking") mics and selecting different things from the "Sound capture" drop down in the Sound preferences. Still no input.
[01:45] <emarvets> jrib: pastebin not found
[01:46] <jrib> !paste | emarvets
[01:46] <Kevin___> Any ideas, guys? I'm really stumped on this issue. I would much prefer to use Ubuntu over Windows Server but I am having nothing but bad luck.
[01:46] <MonthOLDpickle> is ext3 the default format ubuntu installs as?
[01:46] <stdin> yes
[01:46] <MonthOLDpickle> how do I set up smb
[01:46] <stdin> !samba
[01:46] <JanekMZ211> piklesonfire, it worked thanks
[01:47] <piklesonfire> anytime JanekMZ211
[01:47] <Kevin___> piklesonfire: I am behind a corporate firewall, but I don't see why some of the repositories are working and others are 404ing.
[01:48] <jrib> nex3: when you say "X won't start", what happens exactly?
[01:48] <piklesonfire> Kevin___, what repos are 404ing?
[01:48] <mker> MonthOLDpickle, yes
[01:48] <Nick_Meister> ok something is wrong with my xserver config file
[01:48] <Nick_Meister> http://pastebin.com/m43190e81
[01:48] <Nick_Meister> i got 2 video cards and 2 monitors
[01:48] <usser_> Nick_Meister, no there isnt
[01:48] <Nick_Meister> why does it look so .... generic
[01:48] <usser_> Nick_Meister, xorg doesnt have any effect anymore
[01:48] <Kevin___> piklesonfire: I'm away from work but most of the default repos are failing.
[01:48] <Nick_Meister> usser, yes there it doesnt boot with that file
[01:49] <usser_> Nick_Meister, man xrandr
[01:49] <usser_> Nick_Meister, xorg.conf should look generic all x configuration is performed by xrandr now
[01:49] <Nick_Meister> usser, then why does my ubuntu crash with n an erro no screens found?
[01:49] <nex3> jrib: The screen goes black, then to the basic stippled background with the X cursor (which I can move around), then black again and back to text mode with the errors
[01:50] <amstell> Nick_Meister : what does your /var/log/X**** look like?
[01:50] <MonthOLDpickle> ext3 is the better format right?
[01:50] <Nick_Meister> (EE) no devices found is there aswell
[01:50] <piklesonfire> Kevin___, can you pastbin you sources.list plz?
[01:50] <usser_> Nick_Meister, maybe incorrectly installed driver? what video card do u have?
[01:50] <samd> anyone has some gtk experience?, that would like to spend some 5 mins with me?
[01:50] <usser_> Nick_Meister, what version of ubuntu do u use?
[01:50] <Nick_Meister> usser, i have 2 video cards and 2 monitors
[01:50] <MonthOLDpickle> is a GTX260 by nvidia supported lol
[01:51] <Nick_Meister> usser, 8.10
[01:51] <usser_> Nick_Meister, hm 2 cards? did it work with default configuration, right after u installed ubuntu?
[01:52] <Winball> MonthOLDpickle: Yes
[01:52] <Nick_Meister> usser_, then i installed the latest nvidia drivers
[01:52] <Kevin___> piklesonfire: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted
[01:52] <Kevin___> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates main restricted
[01:52] <Kevin___> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
[01:52] <Kevin___> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted
[01:52] <Nick_Meister> and it broke
[01:52] <Kevin___> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates main restricted
[01:52] <FloodBot3> Kevin___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <Kevin___> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted
[01:52] <Nick_Meister> :(
[01:52] <Winball> MonthOLDpickle:  GTX 280 too
[01:52] <usser_> Nick_Meister, where did u install it from nvidia site?
[01:52] <Nick_Meister> today
[01:52] <emarvets> jrib: i'm uber noob...cannot figure out how to get you log with pastebin, other than typing verbatim on other machine
[01:53] <Nick_Meister> like 20 minutes ago
[01:53] <usser_> Nick_Meister, yea did u download it from nvidia site?
[01:53] <jrib> nex3: I don't see what it is and don't really have any ideas.  I would try a live cd so you can see if it should be working and the upgrade just botched something
[01:53] <Flannel> Kevin___: The reason they're failing is because Feisty isn't supported (it reached EOL a few months ago), you should upgrade to gutsy (and to hardy after that, actually)
[01:53] <Nick_Meister> usser_, yes
[01:53] <jrib> emarvets: are you logged in on the other machine?
[01:53] <emarvets> jrib: y
[01:53] <usser_> Nick_Meister, cool did u run nvidia-xconfig afterwards?
[01:53] <jrib> emarvets: with a GUI?
[01:53] <Nick_Meister> usser_, yes
[01:53] <genii> emarvets: Hight the text you wish to paste. Right click and copy. On pastebin site, put cursor in text field. Right click and paste
[01:54] <emarvets> jrib: no, cannot startx
[01:54] <Kevin___> Flannel: Is there an easy way to upgrade? I have nothing installed so would it be easiest to just start fresh?
[01:54] <oily_onion> Looks like I'm not the only one with nvidia problems.
[01:54] <Nick_Meister> usser_,  but the xserver still dont start :(
[01:54] <jrib> emarvets: you can use the "pastebinit" command, but you'll need to install it first
[01:54] <genii> emarvets: In that case you need pastebinit
[01:54] <usser_> Nick_Meister, right, any particular guides u followed?
[01:54] <emarvets> jrib: no devices detected, no screens found
[01:54] <emarvets> trying
[01:54] <Nick_Meister> usser_, no, i just installed the drivers from their site, and it broke :(
[01:55] <emarvets> jrib: installed
[01:55] <Flannel> Kevin___: There are easy ways to upgrade, yes.  Although reinstalling would be less downloading, if bandwidth is the problem (you'd have to upgrade to gutsy, then to hardy, vs just installing Hardy fresh)
[01:55] <mclt> hello
[01:55] <nex3> jrib: All right, I'll try that when I get a chance
[01:55] <nex3> Thanks for your help
[01:55] <Kevin___> Flannel: Do you have a link w/ instructions, perhaps? I really appreciate all the help.
[01:55] <usser_> Nick_Meister, if im not mistaken. if u install it from nvidia.com you have to blacklist the driver that comes with ubuntu
[01:55] <Nick_Meister> usser_, any way to fix this?
[01:55] <usser_> Nick_Meister, hang on
[01:55] <IdNotFound> guys, I'm having some weird mouse acceleration behaviour after upgrading to Intrepid. I usually play games on a second X server, but whenever I switch X servers, the display :0 (the one with GNOME) always resets my mouse acceleration to some default value, while display :1 (with the game) keeps its settings... any ideas why and/or how to fix? (I'm setting and checking them with "xset m" and "xset q")
[01:55] <Flannel> Kevin___: so if you don't have much to lose, a fresh install is definately easier.  I'd recommend Hardy, because it's LTS, so you can keep it until 2011 without having to upgrade
[01:56] <Flannel> Kevin___: For upgrading?
[01:56] <Flannel> !upgrade | Kevin___
[01:56] <JeremyE> Hi
[01:56] <Kevin___> Flannel: Nevermind. If a fresh install is definitely easier I will just go that route.
[01:56] <JeremyE> I was wondering if somebody could help me get set up with dual monitors
[01:56] <Flannel> Kevin___: As far as being "fully up to date" with feisty, you'll have to man... ok
[01:56] <MonthOLDpickle> have a dual boot question
[01:56] <MonthOLDpickle> when installing is there a way to make it not the first boot choice but the second?
[01:56] <piklesonfire> Kevin___, you can also use the hardy install cd to ugrade your current install
[01:56] <JeremyE> If somebody could please help me, I wouldbe very very happy
[01:56] <MonthOLDpickle> So if I boot up and walk away..it defaults to windows instead to ubuntu
[01:57] <JeremyE> 15 second
[01:57] <MonthOLDpickle> currently it defaults to ubuntu if I leave it
[01:57] <Kevin___> piklesonfire: So if I just pop it in before startup it should walk me through the upgrade?
[01:57] <skylarS> http://faculty.matcmadison.edu/cpaac/online/mm/AVI_sample.htm <-- default ubuntu desktop fails to play these avi's ..  using mplayer?
[01:57] <JeremyE> you need to select ubuntu
[01:57] <MonthOLDpickle> and I have the hard drive with windows higher piority in bios than the one with ubuntu
[01:57] <piklesonfire> Kevin___, it should :]
[01:57] <oily_onion> Whenever I upgrade my nvidia drivers and reboot, the monitor turns off before the Ubuntu load screen comes on.
[01:57] <usser_> Nick_Meister, here give that a shot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual pay close attention to disabling conflicting software section
[01:57] <IdNotFound> MonthOLDpickle: you can set the default boot option in GRUB's menu.lst
[01:57] <Kevin___> piklesonfire and Flannel, thank you very much for your advice. I'll do the upgrade soon!
[01:57] <emarvets> jrib: pastebin.com/f79393ac8
[01:57] <ChrisDavaz> I can't get my external microphone input to work in Ubuntu 8.10. I have already tried muting the internal (and "docking") mics and selecting different things from the "Sound capture" drop down in the Sound preferences. Still no input.
[01:57] <Flannel> MonthOLDpickle: alt-f2, then type "gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst", then change "default 0" to "default saved", scroll down to the bottom and put "savedefault" on its own line inside the windows entry
[01:57] <piklesonfire> Kevin___, any time bud
[01:58] <mcpancakes> MonthOLDpickle: If you've never taken a look at /boot/fstab, it's the text file that controls GRUB. line 14 on an unedited menu.lst shows the default option setting.
[01:58] <Nick_Meister> usser_, ok hold on
[01:58] <emarvets> jrib: pastebin.com/f4bb32afd
[01:59] <svchost> cany somebody help me out in getting my wireless working? i have no way of connecting besides that
[01:59] <skylarS> svchost, what are yout trying right now?
[01:59] <svchost> I'm looking at a manual.. I think its either an Atheros AR9280, an Atheros AR2425 or a Broadcom BCM4312
[01:59] <svchost> i dont even see the wireless card though
[02:00] <jrib> emarvets: you have two cards?
[02:00] <emarvets> yes
[02:00] <emarvets> jrib: Y
[02:00] <skylarS> svchost, you might paste what ifconfig returns and what is in you /etc/network/interfaces
[02:00] <jrib> emarvets: you need to specify the busid in your xorg.conf.  You also need to specify the nvidia driver
[02:01] <geekkit> anyone know how one gets " identified to join [a] channel"?
[02:01] <jrib> !register | geekkit
[02:01] <emarvets> jrib: okay, also during the nvidia install...gave a weird hex number followed by something like "bug in kernel?"
[02:01] <geekkit> thank you ubottu .... will do .... :)
[02:01] <skylarS> what is the required codecs/packages for mplayer to play an avi correctly in firefox?
[02:01] <Nick_Meister> usser_, that did not help :(
[02:01] <jrib> emarvets: I don't know what that is
[02:01] <svchost> how do i do that? lol
[02:02] <MonthOLDpickle> brb wish me luck with that and installing nvdia drivers
[02:02] <usser_> Nick_Meister, did u blacklist the nv and nvidia_new?
[02:02] <emarvets> jrib: any instructions of specifying busid and driver?
[02:02] <usser_> Nick_Meister, did u follow the guide to the letter or only some parts?
[02:02] <skylarS> svchost, do you have the machine there and you are on another machine to access this IRC?
[02:02] <svchost> how do you open up like
[02:02] <oily_onion> Anyone know how to fix screen resolution/nvidia problems?  Ubuntu won't let me select a resolution higher than 800x600 and the nvidia driver makes my monitor shut off when I try and boot up the computer.
[02:02] <svchost> a thing..
[02:02] <svchost> i'm on another machine, yes
[02:03] <IdleOne> !cruft > IdleOne
[02:03] <svchost> how do you open up a console-like window in order to use ipconfig
[02:03] <Nick_Meister> usser_, i did not find the part of it that specified that, and my xorg looks much much different, also my xserver does not work so i couldnt follow most of
[02:03] <jrib> emarvets: pastebin lspci output
[02:03] <svchost> ah, terminal? i think i found it.. if thats it
[02:03] <skylarS> svchost, ifconfig... you can go to Applications>Accesories
[02:03] <IdleOne> jrib, is there a cruft remover in Intrepid? I recall seeing something about that
[02:04] <usser_> Nick_Meister, did u do that? http://pastebin.com/m40a9e675
[02:04] <JeremyE> Could somebody please help me?
[02:04] <svchost> command not found?
[02:04] <JeremyE> Could somebody please help me set up somebody's dual monitors?
[02:04] <skylarS> svchost, ifconfig not ipconfig
[02:04] <JeremyE> I really, really need help
[02:04] <usser_> Nick_Meister, xorg generally has nothing to do with it, as long as it has Driver nvidia in it its fine
[02:04] <emarvets> jrib: lspci > pastebinit?
[02:04] <pepparkaka> svchost, somewehere in menu or you could hit ALT-F2 and type gnome-teminal
[02:04] <usser_> Nick_Meister, can u pastebinit just to be on the safe side
[02:05] <jrib> IdleOne: there is in system -> admin, I haven't used it
[02:05] <JeremyE> If ANYBODY has set up dual monitors on a computer with a radeon x800 videocard and can help me out here, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PM ME
[02:05] <emarvets> jrib: did not give me URL
[02:05] <usser_> !pastebin | nick_meister
[02:05] <svchost> so what exactly am i looking at here?
[02:05] <jrib> emarvets: lspci > tempfile; pastebinit tempfile
[02:05] <JeremyE> please please help me here!
[02:05] <Nick_Meister> usser_, http://pastebin.com/m43190e81
[02:05] <IdleOne> jrib, I don't see it there. what's the package name you know off hand?
[02:05] <skylarS> svchost, you might have a device with an inet address
[02:06] <emarvets> jrib: pastebin.com/f7314be8c
[02:06] <jrib> IdleOne: system-cleaner and system-cleaner-gtk for the gui
[02:06] <onefunk> greetings all,
[02:06] <IdleOne> thanks
[02:06] <skylarS> svchost, is the computer in a  position where it can try to get a wireless connection?
[02:06] <svchost> 127.0.0.1..
[02:06] <Nick_Meister> usser_, how do i uninstall using apt-get?
[02:06] <skylarS> svchost, that is the localhost
[02:06] <jrib> emarvets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82758/ should work
[02:06] <svchost> yes, it is skylars.. it doesnt seem to be finding the wireless card
[02:06] <oily_onion> Where can I take a number?
[02:06] <usser_> Nick_Meister, oh this doesnt look right at atkk
[02:06] <jrib> !ask | oily_onion
[02:07] <skylarS> svchost, is it supposed to be on ath0?
[02:07] <Nick_Meister> usser_, i knew something was wrong with it T.T
[02:07] <skylarS> svchost, wifi0 maybe?
[02:07] <svchost> i see eth0.. and then lo
[02:07] <dariusdwtt> eth1?
[02:07] <Wicked> how do i not show icons on the desktop?
[02:07] <skylarS> svchost, just eth0 and lo.. that should be your hardline interface and the local network respectively
[02:08] <jrib> emarvets: I don't know if both your cards will be used though, you'll have to look into that
[02:08] <jrib> !icons | Wicked
[02:08] <dariusdwtt> Wicked
[02:08] <svchost> so it doesnt see my wireless card at all then?
[02:08] <dariusdwtt> what he said
[02:08] <Wicked> hmm
[02:08] <mrwes> re
[02:09] <mrwes> Anyone running a dual boot with Vista and Ubunut?
[02:09] <oily_onion> Can someone help me get my monitor running at the right resolution?  It's stuck in 800x600.
[02:09] <dmsuperman> For some reason, "Thunderbird" and "CCSM" have both become permanently "sticky". I quote "sticky", because while compiz is running only the icon is sticky, not the window. When I disable compiz, I can make them not sticky and come back to compiz. However, when I restart X they're sticky again
[02:09] <usser_> Nick_Meister, back up your xorg.conf: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.back
[02:09] <Wicked> i dont want any icons...
[02:09] <Wicked> i dont see this option
[02:09] <usser_> Nick_Meister, and try this for xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m40a9e675
[02:09] <svchost> see.. this is lame..
[02:09] <jrib> !x > oily_onion
[02:09] <bonhoffer> what is the preferred way to list directories (via ls?)
[02:09] <skylarS> svchost, i don't think so
[02:09] <Storm`> im trying to install ubuntu with an Iso image.. wubi is downloading the image instead of using the data from the ISO image.
[02:09] <svchost> it doesnt even recognize my wireless card..
[02:09] <bonhoffer> can't see it in man page (in bash right now)
[02:09] <Storm`> anyone knows why?
[02:09] <jrib> bonhoffer: ls -d */  I guess
[02:09] <svchost> thats why linux will take 100 years to get popular
[02:10] <dariusdwtt> @Wicked
[02:10] <mankash> what is the use of mknod command
[02:10] <mrwes> hrmmm
[02:10] <skylarS> svchost, so what does your /etc/network/interfaces say?
[02:10] <svchost> where is that?
[02:10] <Wicked> dariusdwtt, ?
[02:10] <drog> thanks to you and your multiple runs for different services I can see that timeline shrink significantly
[02:10] <dariusdwtt> rename all the icons in the desktop folder in your home
[02:10] <Storm`> im trying to install ubuntu with an Iso image.. wubi is downloading the image instead of using the data from the ISO image.
[02:10] <dariusdwtt> put a "." before all the names
[02:10] <skylarS> svchost, that is the path to the file $cat /etc/network/interfaces
[02:10] <tiyowan> Now here's a rather daft question...is there a GUI font manager for intrepid? Because I can't for the life of me find it from the system menu.
[02:10] <Storm`> can anyone help me in this?
[02:10] <bonhoffer> jrib, that doesn't work for me
[02:10] <emarvets> jrib: what file does that go in?
[02:10] <Wicked> theres no options to not show them?
[02:10] <jrib> Wicked: I (ubottu actually) told you how...
[02:11] <nick|here> svchost, what is your wireless card?
[02:11] <Wicked> i dont want to rename stuff
[02:11] <MindVirus> Is there any way to make GNOME's clipboard not suck so bad?
[02:11] <svchost> okay.. well youll need to be explaining to me how i do this
[02:11] <mrwes> svchost, do you know what kind of wireless card you have?
[02:11] <jrib> Wicked: unclick the option show_desktop in nautilus/preferences
[02:11] <svchost> its integrated nick|here
[02:11] <Wicked> jrib, i dont see any options in there to not show
[02:11] <Nick_Meister> usser_, uhh you posted that link before
[02:11] <sbyte> Hey all, wondering if anyone can help me, ive installed 8.04 and its working perfectly, this computer was originaly going to be a file server, however my main PC has broken (power supply), so i have now installed a sound blaster live 5.1 card, to get some sound on this computer, is there anyway to get this card working without having to re-install ubuntu?
[02:11] <dariusdwtt> just a . before the name hides it
[02:11] <MindVirus> Is there any way to make GNOME's clipboard not suck so bad?
[02:11] <jrib> emarvets: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:11] <Wicked> oh
[02:11] <svchost> according to a manual i found online, its (likely) one of 3 cards
[02:11] <Nick_Meister> usser, that does not contain the xorg
[02:11] <dmsuperman> For some reason, "Thunderbird" and "CCSM" have both become permanently "sticky". I quote "sticky", because while compiz is running only the icon is sticky, not the window. When I disable compiz, I can make them not sticky and come back to compiz. However, when I restart X they're sticky again
[02:11] <Wicked> i see thanks jrib
[02:11] <chimwemwe_> hi all, can anyone tell me how to get my sound working again. since i installed ubuntu-studio 8.10 i havent been able to get it working again. it was working fine in 7.10
[02:11] <bonhoffer> i don't understand why ls -d doesn't work
[02:11] <jrib> bonhoffer: sure it does.  Pastebin
[02:11] <svchost> Atheros AR9280, an Atheros AR2425 or a Broadcom BCM4312
[02:11] <nick|here> svchost, it does have a brand even if it's integrated
[02:11] <jrib> bonhoffer: that's not what I said.  I said: ls -d */
[02:12] <usser_> Nick_Meister, oh really sorry, http://pastebin.com/m299a436f that should be xorg.conf
[02:12] <nick|here> svchost, if it's ar2425 one of i'm using it works fine with ath5k drivers
[02:12] <histo> alright just copied libflahsplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins but firefox isn't seeing the plugin?  Do I need to log otu and back in or something?
[02:12] <dariusdwtt> whoops i was wrong :)
[02:12] <nick|here> svchost, and also ubuntu recognizes it well(intrepid)
[02:12] <mrwes> svchost, goto Applications | Accessories | Terminal and type the following command - lspci
[02:12] <svchost> can i figure that out inside vista nick|here?
[02:12] <jrib> histo: restart firefox, though I don't understand why you are manually copying it...
[02:12] <mankash> what is the use of mknod command?
[02:12] <mrwes> svchost, your card should be towards the bottom of the output
[02:12] <exodus_ms> !sound > sbyte
[02:12] <histo> jrib, cuz i'm installing the new 64bit alpha version
[02:13] <svchost> okay, hold on one second
[02:13] <jrib> mankash: try #bash
[02:13] <bonhoffer> jrib, http://www.pastie.org/334568
[02:13] <jrib> histo: put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[02:13] <s1-> hi
[02:13] <bluej> I want to use "find" to find all playlist files and make a symbolic link to all of them in a new directory
[02:13] <svchost> sorry for the wait
[02:13] <bluej> something like this:
[02:13] <exodus_ms> !hi
[02:13] <nick|here> svchost, yes, go to device manager and look at network adapters. but even more easier way is checking your lspci output
[02:13] <bluej> find -name "*.m3u* -print0 | xargs -0 ln -s -t /Playlists/a/
[02:13] <jrib> bonhoffer: so there aren't any directories
[02:13] <bluej> but it doesn't work
[02:13] <s1-> i'm trying to use 2 monitors, when using "twinview" all it does it mirror my first monitor -- i dont want it to do that
[02:13] <svchost> kk, 2 seconds
[02:13] <dmsuperman> bluej: Try the first bit, without the xargs
[02:13] <svchost> btw.. my little wireless button is orange instead of blue
[02:13] <dmsuperman> bluej: Does it print out the m3u files?
[02:14] <svchost> blue=working
[02:14] <gaspipe1> hey people
[02:14] <jrib> bluej: use this if you want to avoid that case: ls -F | grep /
[02:14] <histo> jrib, yeah It needed to be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[02:14] <bonhoffer> jrib, got it -- thanks :)
[02:14] <jrib> histo: nope, not true
[02:14] <DJ_HaMsTa> hwaddress ether 01:02:03:04:05:06  <-- to change the mac for wlan1 ether would be changed to wlan1 ?
[02:14] <dmsuperman> For some reason, "Thunderbird" and "CCSM" have both become permanently "sticky". I quote "sticky", because while compiz is running only the icon is sticky, not the window. When I disable compiz, I can make them not sticky and come back to compiz. However, when I restart X they're sticky again
[02:14] <nick|here> svchost, are you seeing what is your wireless card at the output?
[02:14] <mrwes> svchost, it shoul02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)d look something like this:
[02:15] <svchost> okay, im looking
[02:15] <histo> jrib, whats not true? it didn't show up in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:15] <mrwes> er....that didn't come out right..heh
[02:15] <bluej> dmsuperman: find -name "*.m3u* works yeah
[02:15] <svchost> broadcom bcm4310
[02:15] <mrwes> svchost, ok..what version of Ubuntu?
[02:15] <mrwes> 8.10?
[02:15] <svchost> 8.04
[02:15] <nick|here> svchost, one step is left :) try google: bcm4310 ubuntu hardy
[02:16] <dmsuperman> bluej: How about this then: find -name "*.m3u* -print0 | xargs -0 -I'{}' ln -s -t /Playlists/a/{}
[02:16] <mrwes> eww....8.10 wireless is MUCH better for broadcom cards
[02:16] <bluej> jrib: how do I use that?
[02:16] <skylarS> is there something in the repositories to save a video of the desktop to avi?
[02:16] <ravalox> Hey, I lent my gentoo laptop to my girlfriend and now the "Applications" menu is missing from the top bar, how do I replace it?
[02:16] <jrib> bluej: sorry, wrong nick
[02:16] <exodus_ms> recordmydesktop
[02:16] <drog> svchost, if intrepid cant find a proprietary driver for your wireless card just ndiswrapper it
[02:16] <bluej> jrib: no worries
[02:16] <jrib> bonhoffer: use this if you want to avoid that case: ls -F | grep /
[02:16] <rww> ravalox: right-click on the top panel and click Add to panel, then add either Main Menu or Menu Bar, i forget which
[02:17] <svchost> lol, that was gobbledygook to me
[02:17] <bonhoffer> jrib, thanks
[02:17] <rww> ravalox: also, you should have asked this in the Gentoo IRC channel, not here. This here channel is for Ubuntu support :P
[02:17] <drog> svchost system>administration>hardware drivers
[02:17] <nick|here> svchost, try searching upgrading to intrepid.
[02:17] <JeremyE> Can somebody PLEASE help me?
[02:17] <bonhoffer> jrib, what is the easiest way to alias that to, say, lsdir
[02:17] <dariusdwtt> @ exodus : synaptic shoud have some something for that
[02:18] <mrwes> drog, he's on Hardy
[02:18] <drog> svchost, you're not using intrepid? You might consider trying it. It is very good with wireless
[02:18] <outboard> how do i get my inbuilt web cam working ?
[02:18] <bonhoffer> do i create a shell script in /usr/bin that calls that -- or is there a better way?
[02:18] <svchost> i just installed the thing 30 minutes ago
[02:18] <svchost> lol
[02:18] <mrwes> drog, so I've told him :)
[02:18] <Typhoeus> Good evening.  I'm trying to find my log files on Pidgin.  I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.
[02:18] <svchost> theres 2 things inside of there drog
[02:18] <rww> Typhoeus: open your home folder, press Ctrl-H to show hidden files, and look in .purple (if i remember correctly)
[02:18] <jrib> bonhoffer: find -maxdepth 1 -type d  works too.  Just add the alias to your ~/.bashrc
[02:19] <mrwes> svchost, you won't be sorry -- Install 8.10
[02:19] <prince_> hi i am new
[02:19] <crumple> JeremyE: what the prob?
[02:19] <Typhoeus> rww, thank you very much.  Give me a moment to see if that does the trick.
[02:19] <jrib> !webcam > outboard
[02:19] <crumple> prince_: hi i am old ;-)
[02:19] <drog> svchost, you can always search the ubuntu forums for a match with your wireless chip (can be found using lspci). you may find a proprietary (from the manufacturer - closed source), or you may find a windows driver you can install very easily with ndiswrapper (sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper)
[02:19] <prince_> i install 8.4 ubuntu
[02:19] <svchost> i installed 8.04 cuz i had a tutorial for dual booting linux and vista with vista installed
[02:19] <mcquaid> i have a drive that's almost dying, but i can copy files off it.  It's an 80gig drive and now have another drive to back it up
[02:20] <exodus_ms> !details > prince
[02:20] <outboard> thanks jrib
[02:20] <JeremyE> crumple: Well, my dad is going to pay me $50 to get him dual monitors up and running
[02:20] <mcquaid> what i'm concerned with is copying the whole 80gigs in one go and stressing the failing drive
[02:20] <JeremyE> and I have until christmas
[02:20] <drog> svchost ... then of course "ndiswrapper -i <drivername>"
[02:20] <JeremyE> but I've got some problems
[02:20] <svchost> i cant install that without an internet connection drog, can i? lol
[02:20] <JeremyE> I need to know exactly WHAT TO DO
[02:20] <crumple> JeremyE: ah yes, dual monitors
[02:20] <prince_> can'y get rosegarden to install on ubuntu
[02:20] <mcquaid> one thing i'd like to is artificially cap the copy speed, and maybe take periodic breaks
[02:20] <JeremyE> beforehand because I won't actually have acess to his computer until then
[02:20] <JeremyE> I know all his information
[02:20] <CarlFK> looks like Exim smtp server is installed on my box, and due to a failed ssh tunnel, a buch of my tbird mail got sent to localhost:25 (Exim)
[02:20] <bonhoffer> jrib, after making changes in bashrc how do i get them to run (do i need to restart/reload something?)
[02:20] <svchost> the problem is, i have no internet connection on this laptop
[02:20] <JeremyE> and exactly what the problem is
[02:20] <svchost> so how do i get it working without an internet connection? lol
[02:20] <nick|here> svchost, intrepid is really good at hardware compability. i currently have 2 laptops and one macbook pro santa rosa running it without any problem and out of the box
[02:20] <JeremyE> All I need are some decent instructions
[02:20] <rww> !enter
[02:20] <aegis> I recently updated my Hardy Heron server and apache2 was updated...  I can no longer access my https pages on my server.  I get the error "Data Transfer Interrupted".  Had anyone else experienced this error?
[02:20] <crumple> prince_: how are you trying to install rosegarden
[02:20] <JeremyE> Please PM me
[02:20] <jrib> bonhoffer: restarting the terminal is enough
[02:20] <Typhoeus> rww, I've found the folder for .purple.  I don't see any log files.
[02:20] <mcquaid> is there any copy/backup util that'll treat a failing drive with kid gloves?
[02:21] <nick|here> svchost, doesn't it have a ethernet ?
[02:21] <drog> svchost I'm not sure how many dependencies ndiswrapper has, but you can if you transfer the .deb files from a mounted windows/flash drive
[02:21] <svchost> i cant hook it up via ethernet
[02:21] <bonhoffer> got it
[02:21] <CarlFK> and never got delivered anywhere.  what did Exim do with it?
[02:21] <prince_> i try kde
[02:21] <rww> Typhoeus: give me a sec and I'll boot up Ubuntu and find out where mine are
[02:22] <AnnonyMouse> anyone here know of a "pretty" gnome/KDE tool for IPTables/routing/NAT, etc?
[02:22] <th89> hey guys, i was wondering if you could set the gnome-panel to not reserve the edge of the winow?
[02:22] <Typhoeus> rww.  Sweet.
[02:22] <Typhoeus> rww, virtual machine, or the real deal?
[02:23] <rww> Typhoeus: I'm at work, so virtual machine. My box at home is for real.
[02:23] <prince_> anyoneknowwhere i can get the latest rosegarden update?
[02:23] <Flannel> svchost, drog: ndiswrapper has packages on the Ubuntu Cd, if you still have that around
[02:23] <dariusdwtt> @ Typhoeus : install the pidgin plugins from synaptic, and you'll get a option in the tools menu
[02:24] <Typhoeus> rww: Your work is cool with VPN or ssh for private use?
[02:24] <aegis> I recently updated my Hardy Heron server and apache2 was updated...  I can no longer access my https pages on my server.  I get the error "Data Transfer Interrupted".  Had anyone else experienced this error?
[02:24] <th89> does anyone know how to allow the gnome-panel to be covered by applications?
[02:24] <rww> Typhoeus: yeah, but I'm in the middle of renegotiating with my (college) ISP about my ssh server, so it's turned off for now
[02:24] <Typhoeus> dariusdwtt: Let me take a look at that.
[02:24] <exodus_ms> prince_, http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/getting/
[02:25] <dariusdwtt> or it might be there already?
[02:25] <svchost> do i just put the cd in?
[02:25] <Architect> Welllll hello Ubuntu community.
[02:25] <dariusdwtt> and enable logging in your prefs
[02:25] <Typhoeus> rww: Nice that you can "renegotiate" with the ISP.
[02:25] <prince_> thank uexodus
[02:25] <svchost> how do i get those flannel?
[02:25] <exodus_ms> prince_, google is your friend... :)
[02:26] <Flannel> svchost: Do you have a CD?
[02:26] <svchost> yes.. its 8.04 though
[02:26] <prince_> cool
[02:26] <rww> Typhoeus: okay, it's up. Looks like my logs are in /home/username/.purple/logs/ . Yours aren't?
[02:26] <Flannel> svchost: What version are you trying to use ndiswrapper on?
[02:26] <svchost> 8.04
[02:27] <Typhoeus> rww/dariusdwtt: I pulled bonehead move, and assumed logging automatically turned on.  Trillian spoiled me.
[02:27] <Flannel> svchost: Then you're good.  Pop the CD in, the deb files are on there.  It'd probably be easier to just isntall them with dpkg
[02:27] <svchost> huh
[02:28] <exodus_ms> aegis, have you tried #apache?
[02:28] <etherael> so, what autoupdate for 8.10 just horribly broke fglrx support in Xorg ?
[02:28] <Architect> Is there anyone here who would be able to aid a Linux/Ubuntu total noob in learning how to operate the system?
[02:28] <etherael> and how can I roll it back?
[02:28] <Typhoeus> rww/dariusdwtt: I think if I had filed logs, it would be /home/username/.purple/logs.
[02:28] <rww> Typhoeus: ah, okay. That'd explain it :). Incidentally, I don't remember ever turning logging on on this machine, so it appears that Jaunty/9.04 turns it on by default, so in the future, you'll be covered :)
[02:28] <etherael> and for those of you using ati cards and 8.10, *DO NOT AUTOUPDATE* unless you want your system hosed.
[02:28] <exodus_ms> Architect, What is the problem?
[02:28] <mrwes> svchost, you don't have an ethernet card on that laptop?
[02:28] <dariusdwtt> Typhoeus:probly
[02:28] <nick|here> Architect, everybody can, if you can tell us a problem
[02:28] <svchost> i dont have anything to plug the ethernet into
[02:28] <Architect> There isn't exactly a problem, yet.
[02:29] <Typhoeus> rww/dariusdwtt:  Thank you both very much for your help.
[02:29] <svchost> just trust me. i cant get this thing connected any way except wirelessly
[02:29] <dariusdwtt> Typhoeus:cool :)
[02:29] <mrwes> svchost, ok
[02:29] <Architect> I just want a basic guide to the OS, and maybe some more info.
[02:29] <rww> Architect: the official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:29] <svchost> i dont see anything in here
[02:30] <svchost> any .deb files
[02:30] <exodus_ms> Architect, --> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:30] <Architect> Oh.
[02:30] <Architect> Well.
[02:30] <rww> !documentation | Architect: see also
[02:30] <nick|here> svchost, on vista?
[02:30] <svchost> on ubuntu
[02:30] <svchost> on the cd
[02:30] <svchost> he said there was a file that would help me
[02:30] <svchost> ndsiwrapper
[02:30] <Architect> Well.
[02:30] <svchost> dont you have to be connected to the net for that to work anyways though?
[02:30] <Architect> This could be fun.
[02:31] <mrwes> svchost, this link is for your card w/ instructions : http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper
[02:31] <exodus_ms> Architect, also try this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655207
[02:32] <Storm`> anyone knows about how to make an anti-arp program?
[02:32] <ubuntu_> Caralho, tou por fora como baixa um MSN pra esse Linux... =/
[02:33] <exodus_ms> !es > ubuntu_
[02:33] <aktiwers> ubuntu_: go to applications => internet => pidgin
[02:33] <crumple> Storm`: do you mean a reverse-arp program?
[02:34] <mrwes> svchost, you're going to need the windows drive too: http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R174291.exe
[02:34] <Storm`> i dont know much about that.. but for my internet its is necessary to run the anti-arp.
[02:34] <mrwes> er...driver
[02:34] <Architect> I remember what I wanted to ask.
[02:34] <Storm`> without it.. i can't access internet.. in Ubuntu.
[02:34] <Adam> Why can't i find kpdf in the intrepid repos ?
[02:34] <Architect> If my system can do it, should I go with 64-bit?
[02:34] <timboy> anyone able to help with audio output in intrepid? none of the tests output sound...
[02:35] <dariusdwtt> have you tried all the options?
[02:35] <Storm`> crumple can you help me out in this?
[02:35] <exodus_ms> !sound | timboy
[02:36] <timboy> exodus_ms, why not use pulseaudio?
[02:36] <TuxSympathiser> could using backported modules damage hardware?
[02:36] <genii> !info sugarplum | storm
[02:36] <dennis_> is this the ubuntu support room?
[02:36] <exodus_ms> timboy, try also --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 (comprehensive sound troubleshooting guide)
[02:36] <dariusdwtt> pulse audio buggy
[02:36] <rhsanborn> I inserted a DVD and it shows on my desktop. Is there any way to tell what the DVD device is /dev/???
[02:36] <etherael> heh, that error didn't last long, funny.
[02:36] <genii> Storm`: Thats the closest
[02:36] <timboy> lol why include it by default then... sounds stupid to me
[02:36] <crumple> Storm`: well, there are existing reverse arp programs out there...
[02:36] <etherael> Xorg was getting a signal 8 for 30 minutes, there was a compiz plugins update released on the update applet, and it's not getting signal 8 anymore.
[02:36] <dariusdwtt> new tech! lol
[02:36] <etherael> strange.
[02:36] <exodus_ms> timboy, hang around this channel long enough and you will see why not to use pulseaudio :)
[02:37] <Storm`> ok, let me try.
[02:37] <Storm`> thanx for the help.
[02:37] <dennis_> I  have set up my first laptop with ubuntu - I am going to give it to my 13 year daughter. The laptop doesn't like to hibernate or suspend...is there anyway I can take those out of the menu?
[02:37] <genii> crumple: I'm sure they want something more like this: http://www.networksecurityarchive.org/html/Focus-BSD/2005-09/msg00000.html
[02:37] <exodus_ms> timboy, develop something better for your own taste, or share it with the community :)
[02:38] <genii> crumple: And not rarp or so
[02:38] <dariusdwtt> timboy:there was a howto on the forums for removing pulseaudio
[02:38] <mrwes> deniss, change to power setting to just a blank screen
[02:38] <dennis_> it was a breeze to set up and easy to navigate.
[02:38] <izinucs> dennis_, you might want to increase your swap to 1.5x - 2x of your ram
[02:38] <dennis_> I did.
[02:38] <kam1lly> is it possible to install ubuntu while running debris linux?
[02:38] <outboard> how do i go about finding the webcam if it is not detected ?
[02:38] <dennis_> it's set to blank screen only.
[02:38] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[02:38] <exodus_ms> !hi
[02:38] <Tetracomm> What is the status of the Ubuntu shutdown bug?
[02:38] <timboy> exodus_ms, there is no file menu when double clicking on volume control
[02:38] <dennis_> and if I select hibernate or suspend...it basically does it, but won't 'thaw' or wake up
[02:38] <obi_> i have an eee pc, they have a 900mhz processor, that is set to cap at 600, but i have installed intrepid and the cpu utility says its set to 900. how do i check what its running at?
[02:39] <dariusdwtt> tetracomm: you mean the alsa one?
[02:39] <Tetracomm> exodus_ms. lol.
[02:39] <onefunk> hello everyone, is anyone good with sound issues?
[02:39] <keres_> how hard is it to uninstall kde from kubuntu and install gnome to make it ubuntu?
[02:39] <kam1lly> is it possible to install ubuntu within debris linux without a boot disk?
[02:39] <dariusdwtt> timboy:system prefs
[02:39] <tiyowan> deninis: What machine do you have?
[02:40] <outboard> !detecting hardware
[02:40] <Tetracomm> dariusdwtt: I don't know what causes it, but it does not shut down, I see a cursor on the screen when I press the shut down button and it doesn't do anything.
[02:40] <keres_> how hard is it to uninstall kde from kubuntu and install gnome to make it ubuntu?
[02:40] <Flannel> !puregnome | keres_
[02:40] <dariusdwtt> keres_:howto on the forums "pure gnome"
[02:40] <genii> Flannel: Beat me to it :)
[02:41] <dariusdwtt> tetracomm: easy to fix
[02:41] <dennis_> it's an older dell inspirion 8600
[02:41] <Tetracomm> dariusdwtt: How?
[02:41] <dariusdwtt> just gotta add two lines in some weird system file
[02:41] <mrwes> svchost, you still alive?
[02:41] <mcquaid> i'm going to copy some files on my now old computer to my new computer.  but i only have 1 monitor so i'm going to copy stuff over a network
[02:41] <dariusdwtt> tetracomm: saw it on the forums....
[02:41] <svchost> yeah.. installing ubuntu was such a monumental waste of time
[02:41] <dennis_> 1.5GHZ and 512 RAM and 60GB HD...works great, other than the hibernate/suspend
[02:42] <Tetracomm> dariusdwtt: Show me.
[02:42] <svchost> i should know better than to trust open source, it always lets you down
[02:42] <Tetracomm> in the forums
[02:42] <mcquaid> i'm going to probably set up an ftp on it, but just in case i want a vncserver running. how do i setup vncserver to run on bootup and not needing a user to log in?
[02:42] <L0neWolf> I'm having a problem with Flash 10 on 1 website, no others, just this one.  Thing is, it works fine with Windows  -_-
[02:42] <StormAtRest> crumple.. I got something familar on the forums.. 'sudo arp -s ip.ip.ip.ip'
[02:42] <dariusdwtt> tetracomm: give me a sec I'll see if it's in my history
[02:42] <Flannel> keres_: If you're worried about it, install ubuntu-desktop, then switch to that, and remove KDE from there
[02:42] <izinucs> L0neWolf, don't go to that site  :)
[02:42] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[02:42] <StormAtRest> this is what a friend gave me in a batch file, which is lost.
[02:42] <dennis_> tiyowan: it's an older dell insprion 8600
[02:42] <etherael> is there a good native replacement for dreamweaver ? good meaning it at least has syntax highlighting, selection indentation, multiple editor windows and a file hierarchy tree simultaneously viewable.
[02:42] <L0neWolf> izinucs, lol... someone had to say it I suppose  :P
[02:42] <StormAtRest> what IP shoud i use after sudo arp -s ?
[02:42] <noel> svchost: Funny guy, stop complaining. : )
[02:42] <Flannel> keres_: Use your favorite package manager (Adept would be the GUI one) to install the ubuntu-desktop package, and then log out, log back in, and remove those packages
[02:43] <izinucs> L0neWolf, It's kinda like "Mom.. it hurts when I do this."
[02:43] <keres_> o ok
[02:43] <Der_Thomas> hey all, having a prob with 8.10, I need to access my ethernet cards, but they don't show up ad devices in /dev
[02:43] <L0neWolf> izinucs, friends are on the site, go there to chat but some of the settings aren't avilable.  it's like the thing isn't detecting it properly
[02:43] <svchost> well i mean.. the fact is, free stuff is usually garbage so i shouldn't expect it would actually work, especially not out of the box :-P. at least this time it recognized my keyboard unlike last time
[02:43] <crumple> StormAtRest: sorry, i cant help you build a program like that
[02:43] <Der_Thomas> in other word sthere is no /dev/eth*
[02:43] <outboard> svchost i don't know what you are raving about , maybe you should join microsofts channel and ask for some help , oh hang on they don't have one  , but you can send them some money for support  , then they will ask you if you have plugged your computer in
[02:43] <L0neWolf> izinucs, yeah but works in Windows?  I can't stand that, everything else is fine  >_<
[02:43] <Flannel> keres_: that is, log out of KDE, log into gnome (choose gnome from sessions menu at the log in screen)
[02:43] <Lasivian> i'm trying to figure out why postfix isn;t sending mail for me
[02:44] <Der_Thomas> anyone know where the ethernet devices are ?
[02:44] <svchost> one day maybe ill get a computer where i just install it and it has generic drivers pre-included that will let me connect to the internet
[02:44] <Lasivian> I just need a simple smtp relay for little stuff :/
[02:44] <jat2> @svchost Free stuff is good, especially considering it's free
[02:44] <achew22> is it possible to get ubuntu to start up with TTY8 active on a server install?
[02:44] <ardchoille> svchost: I've been using Linux on a network of 11 computers for 6 years with no problems
[02:44] <noel> svchost: Maybe your hardware is crap because ubuntu and all opensource i ever used worked on the forst time. ;)
[02:44] <tiyowan> dennis: I've got a dell inspiron 9400. Is it giving you problems in suspending/resuming/hibernating?
[02:44] <dariusdwtt> tetracomm: "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966844&page=2"     post #14   don't do the thing the first guy says!
[02:44] <noel> svc
[02:44] <izinucs> L0neWolf, isn't vs. 10 beta on linux?  when you play the edge (and I do to) you're bound to hit a wall once in a while.
[02:44] <mrwes> etherael, try quanta plus http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[02:44] <svchost> sup noel?
[02:44] <dennis_> tiyowan: yes, it is..everything else worked right away, no problems.
[02:44] <svchost> i'm just being a brat.. don't worry about me
[02:44] <Tetracomm> dariusdwtt: Thank you. :)
[02:44] <noel> svchost: okay. im trying. ;)
[02:44] <dariusdwtt> tetracomm: Cool :)
[02:45] <dennis_> tiyowan: yes, problems only with hibernating/suspending
[02:45] <L0neWolf> izinucs, I thought it was only the x64 build that was beta.  How can I get a hold of 9?  I know that worked fine
[02:45] <svchost> ill work on getting it connected via ethernet and maybe come back when i can do that
[02:45] <Der_Thomas> anyone know why my ethernet cards don't show up in /dev?
[02:45] <Der_Thomas> anyone know why my ethernet cards don't show up in /dev? <---unbuntu 8.10
[02:45] <keres_> Flanel: how long does this take?
[02:45] <exodus_ms> !anyone
[02:45] <jat2> @Der_thomas did something change since you last had them display
[02:45] <tiyowan> dennis: Could you hold on a moment. I fixed this yesterday on my system. Do you get this odd not enough memory problem when you try hibernating?
[02:45] <izinucs> L0neWolf, it's in the repos.. flash non-free I think
[02:45] <keres_> 45 minutes i gess :S
[02:45] <L0neWolf> izinucs, Yeah that only shows 10  :/
[02:45] <mrwes> svchost, that card will work out of the box with Ibex 8.10; with the restricted drivers enabled
[02:45] <Der_Thomas> jat2, not sure if they ever did.  Just installed this distro the other day
[02:45] <Flannel> keres_: It'll have to download all of gnome, so it could take a little time.  depending on your network.  Go eat dinner, have some coffee, whatever while you wait.  It should give you status reports
[02:46] <noel> ubottu: No problem. How can I use my soundcard with 5.1-sound? :)
[02:46] <outboard> how do i detect hardware that has not been automatically detected ?
[02:46] <dennis_> tiyowan: no, I don't, but if I hibernate it does say 'unable to unthaw', but yes, I can wait.
[02:46] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: Ethernet cards don't show up in /dev at all.
[02:46] <noel> aahh
[02:46] <noel> I got nagged
[02:46] <izinucs> L0neWolf, really? perhaps the hardy repo?
[02:46] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, yep
[02:46] <keres_> Flannel: thank you.
[02:46] <L0neWolf> oh I never thought to put hardy repo in  :D  will see what that shows, brb
[02:46] <keres_> :)
[02:46] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: That's not a question, it's a statement. That's how it is. Neither do mine.
[02:47] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, ok, but I'm trying to configure software and need to access the devices
[02:47] <obi_> in intrepid, is there a command to check my processor speed
[02:47] <slashzul_> anyone know of ubuntu package that works like keepvid.com ? I want a client to download youtube videos
[02:47] <arkygeek> hi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?
[02:47] <jat2> @Der_thomas lsmod gives you a driver list, I believe
[02:47] <arrenlex> obi_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:47] <etherael> when you click the "connect to server" button and mount a windows share, mount does not show that share and some applications can't see the files in the mount, is there some spooky method whereby this is being done that is not like a standard mount? and if so, how can it be changed to be like a standard mount?
[02:47] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, in EVERY other distro I've used they are /dev/eth0m etc
[02:47] <noel> So, someone able to tell me who to configure a Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 Live! on Ubuntu 8.10?
[02:47] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, in EVERY other distro I've used they are /dev/eth0  etc
[02:47] <outboard> how do i detect hardware that has not been automatically detected ?
[02:47] <noel> who = how
[02:47] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: What distros?
[02:48] <nex3> jrib: I've figured out my issue :)
[02:48] <nex3> I had an old libpangocairo sitting around that was interfering with everything
[02:48] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, SuSE 6.5 - opensuse 11.0, old skool red hat, Fedora, etc etc etc
[02:48] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: Any debian-based?
[02:48] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, hmmm, guess not
[02:48] <dariusdwtt> Der_Thomas: arent they in some config file?
[02:49] <noel> So, someone able to tell me how to configure a Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 Live! on Ubuntu 8.10 again?
[02:49] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, so how do I access them?  I'm trying to confiugure NCIDD and it wants the ethernet device
[02:49] <jat2> Der_thomas: try eth0
[02:49] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: Is it giving you a file browser? If it's just a textbox, type in eth0.
[02:49] <jrib> nex3: what was it?
[02:49] <tiyowan> dennis: Thanks for waiting. Are you using intrepid?
[02:49] <dariusdwtt> noel: no idea, sorry
[02:49] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: Or whatever "sudo ifconfig" says they are
[02:50] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, no, just a text file config
[02:50] <dennis_> tiyowan:: I am not sure it's 8.10
[02:50] <noel> dariusdwtt: Thanks for your noticing anyway ; )
[02:50] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: Try just writing eth0
[02:50] <dennis_> tiyowan: I am pretty new to ubuntu
[02:50] <tiyowan> dennis: Yep, that's intrepid. I'm new, too. Total experience: 1 week. :-)
[02:50] <dariusdwtt> noel: no prob
[02:50] <oily_onion> After I install the nvidia driver, my monitor turns off before it gets to the ubuntu loading screen.  How do I stop this and get my display showing the right resolution?
[02:50] <dennis_> tiyowan:: wow, twins
[02:50] <jat2> tiyowan: good luck. what os/distro did you come from
[02:50] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, seems weird to me, but I'll try, hang on
[02:50] <Zephyros> I'm having SEVERE issues with 8.10 and NAT, only single packets get forwarded like pings, small web pages, DNS queries, etc.  Anything more and the first packet comes through but the rest disappears.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <tiyowan> jat2: Window XP.
[02:51] <dariusdwtt> tiyowan: check out the beginners howto in the forums :)
[02:51] <timboy> sound doesn't work still after those steps nothing is muted all turned up. killed pulseaudio
[02:52] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, wow, OK, that worked!
[02:52] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: Awesome. Enjoy. :)
[02:52] <dariusdwtt> timboy:killing isn't always a good option
[02:52] <arrenlex> timboy: Has sound ever worked on ubuntu before?
[02:52] <Zephyros> Also, if I NAT to another private subnet the NAT works just fine, it's only when I NAT to the internet that i have problems.
[02:52] <tiyowan> dennis: Okay, this worked for my Inspirion 9400. What you need to do is to disable SAVE_VBE_STATE and POST_VIDEO in /etc/default/acpi-support
[02:52] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, that is very strange to me, seems to break the *nix idea of EVERYTHING being a file
[02:52] <jat2> tiyowan: same here, although that was several months ago. what did you use to install?
[02:52] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex, thanks for your help
[02:52] <dariusdwtt> timboy:you'll need to replace it with something
[02:52] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex ^ and others, thanks for your help
[02:52] <tiyowan> jat2: LiveCD. :-)
[02:52] <timboy> arrenlex, sound works watching movies in xbmc but not regular stereo in xbmc or in ubuntu
[02:53] <timboy> dariusdwtt, alsa is running
[02:53] <Cyberphobia> can i ask f someone knows how to activate my asus a8le wireless?
[02:53] <arrenlex> Der_Thomas: They've been moving away from that slowly... I don't really agree with it, but that's how it is. You won't find any alsa mixers in /dev either, you can only access the mixers through the alsa api.
[02:53] <puneeth> !games
[02:53] <dariusdwtt> timboy:my bad
[02:53] <amigamia> hi
[02:53] <L3Tum> If I want a program to run always on top, without covering up any other windows, how would I do this? I wanted to run conky in a panel but after lots of searching, I don't think it's possible. So is there a way to set gnome so that windows will not expand to a certain section, either some kind of max width script or something?
[02:53] <oily_onion> Can anyone help me install the nvidia driver and keep my monitor to stay on through booting?
[02:53] <dennis_> tiyowan: how would I do that? I am VERY green with this...
[02:53] <amigamia> does majicjack work in linux? basically ubuntu?
[02:53] <arrenlex> timboy: Ah, nevermind, it's not what I thought it was then. Sorry.
[02:53] <tiyowan> dariusdwtt: I'm a CS grad. actually. Didn't have the time in uni to devote to linux. Microsoft-centric professors. :-)
[02:53] <Der_Thomas> arrenlex wow! ok thanks again
[02:53] <jat2> tiyowan: I used wubi. I've used regular installers before, but that was when I started from scratch on a test computer.
[02:53] <Cyberphobia> can i ask f someone knows how to activate my asus a8le wireless?
[02:53] <amigamia> or do you need to use like virtual box and xp pro?
[02:53] <dariusdwtt> tiyowan: lol :)
[02:54] <Guest90495> Live ubuntu8.01 goes to a blank screen after booting...please help
[02:54] <timboy> it's all over optical cable
[02:54] <noel> Guest90495: Had the same problem. At least youre not alone. ; )
[02:54] <tiyowan> dennis: Sure. What you need to do is to open up a terminal. Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal and type in, sudo gedit /etc/default/acpi-support
[02:54] <Guest90495> thanks
[02:55] <dariusdwtt> Guest90495: hardware compatible?
[02:55] <tiyowan> tiyowan: Type in your user password, and you should see a regular text editor pop up with the file you need.
[02:55] <dennis_> tiyowan: once I do that - will it be a text document?
[02:56] <tiyowan> dennis: Yep, just like a regular notepad file.
[02:56] <doumo> hey all, i just replaced the thermal paste on my old p4 1.8 ghz and I think there might be problems.  I might have put too much thermal paste on or I left gaps in the thermal paste (I am almost 99% sure I didn't, but you never know).  Well I turned on my computer and went to bio to check temp. It started at 88 F and within 10 minutes it's at 107 F now.  Is this a normal temp for a P4 1.8 Ghz. (my computer use to be a HP, but I completely r
[02:56] <hikenboot> hello all --anyone know where one could get some nice desktop pics looking for dystopia artwork to liven up the desktop
[02:56] <scbchoreo> helo
[02:56] <scbchoreo> help me?
[02:56] <dariusdwtt> hikenboot: google
[02:56] <robb_m> !ask | scbchoreo
[02:56] <noel> hikenboot: Best search google
[02:56] <dennis_> tiyowan: you are awesome! I thank you. Then I just save it and restart?
[02:56] <hikenboot> thanks guys already looked
[02:57] <tiyowan> dennis: Now once the file opens up, you should see the two options,,,just change the true values to false.
[02:57] <timboy> arrenlex, if it helps audio has never worked in ubuntu directly only in xbmc in ubuntu
[02:57] <jat2> duomo: seems a little hot to me, but I'm no overclocker/hardware expert.
[02:57] <tiyowan> dennis: Yep. It worked for me; but I can't guarantee it'll work for you. You try this, and I'll check out the forums as well. 8400 right?
[02:57] <arrenlex> timboy: eh, not really... out of curiosity, do you have mplayer installed? Can you run mplayer in the console and see if it complains about the audio at all?
[02:57] <dennis_> 8600
[02:57] <dennis_> I'll stand by if you're gonna look..
[02:58] <dariusdwtt> PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL!
[02:58] <tiyowan> dennis: np. Hang on.
[02:58] <jat2> hikenboot: digital blastphemy might have what you're looking for. just click 'free gallery' on the left
[02:58] <dennis_> tiyowan: 8600, I'll hang on if you are gona look (I keep forgetting to put your name first!)
[02:58] <noel> hikenboot: The game seems not to be very well known.
[02:58] <noel> hikenboot: So noone bothered to put up nice wallpapers. Consider making one yourself. ; )
[02:59] <DavidCanarias> hi
[02:59] <tiyowan> dennis: I'm looking.
[02:59] <hikenboot> no their nice just looking for I am legend dystopia pictures without the actors
[02:59] <jat2> hikenboot: I thought you meant distopian wallpapers
[02:59] <jat2> hikenboot: like 1984, brave new world, etc.
[02:59] <amanulla> hello
[02:59] <Flannel> hikenboot: You might try #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't really the place for that.
[03:00] <hikenboot> sorry have a good evening guys
[03:00] <Guest90495> any solution for blank screen with live ubuntu 8.01?
[03:00] <tiyowan> dennis: Uh-oh. It looks like you've got a bug there. Check out http://www.mail-archive.com/desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg238626.html
[03:01] <Guest90495> so what to do?
[03:01] <DavidCanarias> I am trying to install the drivers for a printer, but can anyone advise if I have to install the printer at the same time?
[03:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> im trying to change my mac for my wlan1, im using macchanger i get error: ifdown: interface wlan1 not configured
[03:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> well, im trying to bring it down with ifdown
[03:02] <oily_onion> My proper resolution is missing from the list and I've tried using xrandr, but it's either not working or I'm doing it wrong.
[03:02] <tiyowan> dennis: I think you'll need to wait for a while until the devs fix the problem.
[03:02] <dennis_> tiyowan: bummer - but at least I know why now.
[03:03] <norcim122> hi folks
[03:03] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, are you trying to share a printer over a network?
[03:03] <us_layout> What boot argument would force a US kb layout?
[03:03] <dennis_> ok, no worries. I'll just tell her NOT to do those two methods.
[03:03] <dennis_> tiyowan: unless I can disable them in the menu for now (without a terminal command)
[03:03] <x264> http://pastebin.com/d1ebccaa3 <---- what should I add in this for my pptp server to work? If I disable ufw then it works..
[03:03] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: No its for my home computer..... Is that what you wanted to know??
[03:04] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: I have odered a new HP printer and just wanted to load the drivers before it arrives
[03:04] <tiyowan> dennis: I'd help you do that, but I don't know how to. :-) I'm still getting to grips with the GNOME interface.
[03:04] <norcim122> I have a usb persistent 8.10 that gives "stale NFS at startup" How do i access this install using live cd?
[03:04] <timboy> can someone help me troubleshoot my audio? I can play dts in XBMC but can't play any stereo...
[03:05] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, did you check to see if the printer is compatible, I know HP is usually good about that.
[03:05] <IdleOne>  how do I restart the sound server? sounds like is is stuck in a loop
[03:05] <tiyowan> dennis; You may get a little frustrated with 8.10, because you need to tweak it a bit to get it going on the Inspiron line; but, don't get upset. It's *well* worth it!
[03:05] <metalslugear> is there a way in Ibex to disable trackpad input when typing? I always manage to "click" the trackpad when typing sending my cursor in random places
[03:06] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: certainly did and I download the drivers... but following the instructions I keep coming up with this error : david@david-desktop:~$ sh hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:06] <DavidCanarias> sh: Can't open hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:06] <ozgurgerilla> all; Hi I want to contribute to Ubuntu can someone tell me what do I need to do?
[03:06] <norcim122> need a quicky help..I have a usb persistent 8.10 that gives "stale NFS at startup" How do i access this install using live cd?
[03:06] <metalslugear> IdleOne, "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[03:06] <dennis_> tiyowan: no, no it's works GREAT
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ozgurgerilla ubuntu.com should have ways to contribute
[03:06] <dennis_> better than XP ever did for me on it
[03:07] <dennis_> tiyowan: just the hibernate/suspend issue, that's all. everything else was a go, right from the install
[03:07] <doumo> I just replaced the thermal paste on my old p4 1.8 ghz and I think there might be problems. I might have put too much thermal paste on or I left gaps in the thermal paste (I am almost 99% sure I didn't, but you never know). Well I turned on my computer and went to bio to check temp. It started at 88 F and within first 10 minutes it's at 107 F now. Then 10th minute through the 20th minute is static at 107 F. The 20th minute through 30th min
[03:07] <dennis_> tiyowan: I do thank you very much! You've been awesome!
[03:07] <tiyowan> dennis: That's great. :-) My pleasure.
[03:07] <norcim122> tiyowan
[03:07] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, idk, the path to the file looks screwed up.
[03:07] <dennis_> tiyowan: LONG LIVE UBUNTU - I LOVE IT! (sorry caps, I'll curb my enthusiasm)
[03:08] <DJ_HaMsTa> dennis_: just like the soviet union
[03:08] <ardchoille> !contribute | ozgurgerilla
[03:08] <jtaji> metalslugear: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#syndaemon
[03:08] <ozgurgerilla> ok thanks..
[03:08] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Thks. Any idea how to fix it?
[03:08] <norcim122> can anyone give me quick help?
[03:08] <tiyowan> norcim122: What seems to be the problem?
[03:09] <metalslugear> jtaji, thanks a lot
[03:09] <dennis_> ok, thank you all. I've gotta step out for a bit more Christmas shopping!
[03:09] <norcim122> I have a usb persistent 8.10 that gives "stale NFS at startup" How do i access this install using live cd
[03:09] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, is this it --> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[03:09] <metalslugear> norcim122, !ask
[03:09] <norcim122> I can access it from live cd at /dev/sdc
[03:10] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: I have been using this page, but its not helping me.
[03:10] <norcim122> meaning can i look inside the install
[03:10] <x264> http://pastebin.com/d1ebccaa3 <---- what should I add in this for my pptp server to work? If I disable ufw then it works.. but it overwrites the rules when I enable ufw
[03:10] <tiyowan> norcim122....umm, you want to look at the install on a pendrive right?
[03:11] <rushfan> Hey, hey am I supposed to configure my soundcard if I dont have alsaconf?
[03:11] <rushfan> I want to switch to a PCMCIA card
[03:11] <norcim122> ya to get to the /etc/grub or something like that
[03:11] <amanulla> norcim122:can you tell in detail
[03:11] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, I'm confused, that doesn't look like an error, it looks like a command.
[03:11] <norcim122> I can access the drive but I cant do much after taht
[03:11] <norcim122> that
[03:11] <norcim122> ok
[03:12] <tiyowan> norcim122: I'd try accessing the keydrive partition by running the ubuntu livecd.
[03:12] <exodus_ms> !enter
[03:12] <norcim122> im there
[03:12] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: I typed in tthe command and up came the error I posted earlie
[03:13] <amanulla> means you need to access contents of your usb stick?
[03:13] <doumo> ﻿I just replaced the thermal paste on my old p4 1.8 ghz and I think there might be problems. I might have put too much thermal paste on or I left gaps in the thermal paste (I am almost 99% sure I didn't, but you never know). Well I turned on my computer and went to bio to check temp. It started at 88 F and within first 10 minutes it's at 107 F now. Then 10th minute through the 20th minute is static at 107 F. The 20th minute through 30th 
[03:13] <norcim122> I guess to look inside casper-rw
[03:13] <norcim122> or the /etc/ firle
[03:13] <Eressolar> doumo: 107F is plenty cool. Don't worry until you hit 150ish.
[03:13] <cruzton8> ok, i dist-upgraded to intrepid, finally found the nvidia-glx-173 etc drives that i need, but now glxinfo says glxmissing (hardware manager says the nvidia driver is 'activated')
[03:14] <cruzton8> any ideas?
[03:14] <tiyowan> norcim122: Um...so basically you want to fix the install you made on the pendrive right?
[03:14] <ardchoille> dougsko: mine hovers around 110F and has never been a problem
[03:14] <x264> with ufw running, is it possible to add a iptables rule?
[03:14] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Ok, but looking at that link 'sh hplip-2.8.10.run' is what your supposed to type into the terminal. Do you get a different error msg after you type that
[03:14] <norcim122> correct
[03:14] <x264> *an
[03:14] <norcim122> currently i go into initramfs at log in
[03:14] <jat2> Question: does any one know a tool to convert JPEG2000's into normal jpeg's
[03:15] <doumo> Eressolar: it's at about 111 F now.  im kinda worried. my Prescott runs at 102 F without load. o.0
[03:15] <outlaw__> hi all
[03:15] <tiyowan> norcim122: I have no experience with running ubuntu off a usb, so I can't be of much help.
[03:16] <pmitros> Howdy. I gotta question. I have Intrepid running on a POS HP laptop (dv2310us). Suspend usually doesn't work. When I unsuspend, it appears to not be able to access the hard drive (swarms of ext3 errors in the terminal). Any clue as to how to go about making suspend work?
[03:16] <norcim122> I cant go into it from terminal?
[03:16] <x264> ufw is overwriting my iptables rules..how do I use both?
[03:16] <norcim122> only if it is on HD?
[03:16] <kristian1> how do i switch channel window in irssi?
[03:16] <outlaw__> anyone know if there's a room that could help me with banshee problem...........sorry for question but i'm new to IRC and dont know much about it
[03:16] <Eressolar> doumo: Like I said, there's nothing to worry about at those temperatures.
[03:17] <ardchoille> kristian1: alt+1, alt+2, etc
[03:17] <x264> kristian1, alt+1,2,3,4,5.. etc
[03:17] <kristian1> thanks! :)
[03:17] <Flannel> kristian1: alt-# or /window # or ctrl-n/p or alt-left/right
[03:17] <doumo> Eressolar: thanks.  what does your CPU run at without load and then with load?
[03:17] <tiyowan> norcim122: Personally, I'd try mounting the USB and taking things from there....
[03:18] <Songwind> Does anyone know where I can get a correspondence between fglrx driver version #s and the Catalyst versions?
[03:18] <ardchoille> doumo: Mine sits about 100 without load and 115 with load
[03:18] <Eressolar> Depends on manufacturer and laptop or desktop. Laptop idles at 120F, and hits 160F during load. Hot, but within design limits.
[03:19] <allquixotic> Hello! I have a 100 MBPS Ubuntu 8.10 Server on the public Internet -- not on my LAN -- and I want to sync a huge number of large files using Unison. When mounting the remote server's Samba on my Ubuntu 8.10 desktop (with GVFS), I notice terrible performance. Is there any faster way to use Unison over the Internet? Unison is basically a gui around rsync...
[03:19] <norcim122> that gets me into the logon menu then from there into busybox shell..... let me give you the error message when i exit that
[03:19] <outlaw__> anyone here use ''banshee'' to stream live radio
[03:19] <tiyowan> norcim122: Yeah, the error msg would help. I'll try looking on the forums to see if I find anything.
[03:19] <norcim122> ERROR:  run-init: overmounting root: stale NFS file handle
[03:20] <norcim122> the forums refer to going into the install using live CD
[03:20] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Any Luck? Looks like you will need your printer installed for the final step 'hp-setup tool'
[03:20] <doumo> ardchoille: what processor do you have? Intel or AMD and model? what app do you use to record your CPU tmp?
[03:20] <norcim122> but maybe that applies to HD installs only
[03:20] <timboy> can someone help me troubleshoot my audio? I can play dts in XBMC but can't play any stereo...
[03:21] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Sorry for the delay. I did type this in and up came this message .  sh: Can't open hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:21] <ardchoille> doumo: AMD Sempron 2800 and I use gkrellm for a sensor stack (gkrellm is in the repos)
[03:21] <exodus_ms> timboy, did this link not help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 (comprehensive sound troubleshooting guide)
[03:21] <soapbar> hi - im having trouble with resizing windows - if i move the mouse to the corner or edge of a window the resize icon comes up, but if i click-drag it does nothing
[03:21] <ischliky> where would i look in ubuntu to control my fan speed(i am on a laptop) it doesnt seem to turn on auto when it gets heated
[03:21] <x264> http://pastebin.com/d1ebccaa3 <---- what should I add in this for my pptp server to work? If I disable ufw then it works.. but it overwrites the rules when I enable ufw
[03:22] <soapbar> im running kubuntu/hardy/amd64/compiz-fusion/xgl
[03:22] <timboy> exodus_ms, no it basically says that if your hardware is set up to unmute everything in alsamixer
[03:22] <mib_7lu6d3cj> So... How do I install compizconfig-settings-manager in 8.10??
[03:22] <mib_7lu6d3cj> it's not in the repos anymore
[03:22] <soapbar> mib: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[03:22] <exodus_ms> pulseaudio?
[03:22] <_jj1> hey
[03:22] <_jj1> My laptop froze while upgrading to intrepid
[03:22] <tiyowan> norcimm122: Hmm, says here that the cause of the problem is that you deleted a mounted directory.
[03:22] <timboy> exodus_ms, there wan't a section that said: "my audio hardware is working and everything is turnedub but I still don't have sound"
[03:23] <timboy> *turned up
[03:23] <mib_7lu6d3cj> soapbar: that's not there either
[03:23] <Stargazer> In intrepid ibex, what's the new font viewer ?
[03:23] <guest_> hello, can you remind me the name of text baed package like rcconf. to manage runlevels, enable/disable, move up,down
[03:23] <outlaw__> can anyone provide some help with banshee
[03:23] <_jj1> now system wont boot because /var/ is on read-only
[03:23] <norcim122> hmm
[03:23] <joble> x264: allow tcp 1723 and protocl 47 to/from your pptp server
[03:23] <guest_> it has the strange name. rc-bla-bla-bla
[03:23] <teratoma> how do i rotate my display 90 degrees ?
[03:24] <tiyowan> norcim122: Have you got some data in there? Because I think it'd be less complicated if you just wiped the stick and re-installed.
[03:24] <_jj1> what do I have to fix :-\?
[03:24] <exodus_ms> timboy,  For some reason Intrepid does not create an audio group, and membership in such a group is necessary to ensure priority access to the sound devices.
[03:24] <norcim122> how can that happen?..   I took off the cd rom once.. in bios
[03:24] <doumo> ardchoille: does ﻿gkrellm support Intel models?
[03:24] <Songwind> mib_7lu6d3cj: The package is compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:24] <norcim122> I'm almost at that point
[03:24] <Songwind> It came up in apt-cache for me just fine.
[03:24] <soapbar> oh sorry
[03:24] <joble> \q
[03:24] <norcim122> I did many updates yesterday from a fresh install..
[03:25] <ardchoille> doumo: supposedly
[03:25] <mib_7lu6d3cj> Songwind: forgot to enable the repo
[03:25] <doumo> ardchoille: thanks :DS
[03:25] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Go to dir of file and run 'ls -l hplip-2.8.10.run' pastebin output
[03:25] <Songwind> mib_7lu6d3cj: Yep, that'd do it. :)
[03:25] <x264> joble: 1723 is allowed. how do I allow protocl 47 in ufw?
[03:25] <norcim122> I was hoping to salvage some of that
[03:25] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, disregard...
[03:25] <soapbar> im having trouble with resizing windows - if i move the mouse to the corner or edge of a window the resize icon comes up, but if i click-drag it does nothing
[03:25] <joeb3_> x264, changed my nic.  Don't know how to change ufw.
[03:25] <timboy> exodus_ms, trying that
[03:26] <soapbar> im running kubuntu/hardy/amd64/compiz-fusion/xgl
[03:26] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Ok will disregard, but do you have any idea how to resolve plse?
[03:26] <Songwind> So, does anyone know what version of Catalyst is in the repos?  It says 8.543, but the options at ATI are 8.11, etc.
[03:26] <norcim122> tiyowan: where did you find the info.. did it have any details?
[03:26] <Songwind> soapbar:  any window?
[03:26] <stl-outlaw> hello
[03:27] <soapbar> Songwind: yep, no windows resize at all
[03:27] <sabayonweb_68615> does ubuntu work well if i want to get desktop and use big screen tv for monitor using hdmi
[03:27] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, ok, try it... Go to dir of file and run 'ls -l hplip-2.8.10.run' pastebin output
[03:27] <soapbar> Songwind: the [] in the top left corner between the - and X work fine
[03:27] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Do you mean I should type this in the Terminal=
[03:27] <tiyowan> norcim122: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=711079&page=5
[03:28] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, yes... ls -l hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:28] <skovoroda> hello
[03:28] <skovoroda> all
[03:28] <Songwind> soapbar: Huh.  That's a new one on me.
[03:28] <skovoroda> witch is help chanel
[03:28] <norcim122> great! I will look at that... then format and repeat i guess...
[03:28] <sabayonweb_68615> anyone use hdmi in linux
[03:28] <skovoroda> or can i get some info here
[03:28] <norcim122> Thanks
[03:28] <tiyowan> norcim122: Can you get to the shell by booting from the stick?
[03:28] <jat2> Does anyone know how I can convert from Jpeg2000 to standard jpeg?
[03:28] <murlidhar> !ask | skovoroda
[03:28] <norcim122> not sure
[03:28] <soapbar> jat2: gimp?
[03:28] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, make sure you are in the directory where you have the  hplip-2.8.10.run file
[03:28] <sabayonweb_68615> its seems cheaper in long run to make big screen tv monitor
[03:29] <Songwind> sabayonweb_68615: The resolution is much more limited.
[03:29] <sabayonweb_68615> like how limited
[03:29] <norcim122> shell meaning the busybox builtin shell? initramfs?
[03:29] <jat2> soapbar: gimp doesn't, I don't think, unless there's a plugin.
[03:29] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: The result is : ls: cannot access hplip-2.8.10.run: No such file or directory
[03:29] <metalslugear> jat2, i remember reading about a plugin once... not sure if it's still around or not
[03:29] <Songwind> sabayonweb_68615: The best TV resolution is 1900-something by 1080.
[03:29] <sabayonweb_68615> i use computer to watch 98% of video
[03:29] <norcim122> then yes with minimal access... i can mount and unmount
[03:29] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: I did this in the terminal. How do I do it in the file plse?
[03:30] <sabayonweb_68615> and would get desktop with tv turner
[03:30] <murlidhar> sabayonweb_68615: how does hdmi related to linux ?
[03:30] <Songwind> My 24" widscreen LCD is already running at 1680x1050
[03:30] <skovoroda> I'm very new in Linux, I just instaled Ubuntu, so please any one can talk with me
[03:30] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, where is the run file located?
[03:30] <joeb3_> DavidCanarias, ./hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:30] <tiyowan> norcim122: If you can get to the shell somehow by booting from your usb, you may be able to fix the problem. Something's broken in  your NFS server or something like that. You could run a cmd to fix it, but I'm not able to track down how you should do it.
[03:30] <murlidhar> skovoroda: what is that you want ?
[03:30] <Songwind> So it would be the same effective screen real estate (or a bit more) on my 52" TV
[03:30] <metalslugear> skovoroda, ask your question, this is the help channel
[03:30] <DavidCanarias> exods_ms: In my downloads file
[03:30] <sabayonweb_68615> Songwind: yeah i might get a 24" do tv turners work well?
[03:30] <skovoroda> murlidhar i have many quations :)
[03:30] <murlidhar> skovoroda: go on :)
[03:31] <metalslugear> sabayonweb_68615, I have a simple wintv card that works great
[03:31] <sabayonweb_68615> i was thinking of using mythtv
[03:31] <soapbar> sabayonweb_68615: yep, but make sure you get the right chipset (winfasts are supported well)
[03:31] <norcim122> yes.. I am sure there must be a way to get in
[03:31] <Songwind> sabayonweb_68615: My experience has been that my nVidia cards work well, my Intel card has never quite worked right, and I haven't tried my ATI yet.
[03:31] <skovoroda> can we do it in privat
[03:31] <DavidCanarias> joeb3_: Same error No such file or directory
[03:31] <norcim122> either from live cd or the busybox shell
[03:31] <sabayonweb_68615> Songwind: what brand computer you get
[03:31] <Songwind> sabayonweb_68615: Nevermind, I am thinking backwards.  TV-out, not TV-in.
[03:31] <murlidhar> skovoroda: it is better here since if i don't know the answer somebody else might answer it
[03:31] <norcim122> tiyowanI just don't know the commands
[03:32] <tiyowan> norcim122: You tried typing startx from the shell? Me neither.
[03:32] <norcim122> no
[03:32] <Songwind> sabayonweb_68615: Toshiba laptop has the Intel chipset.  The others are BYOPC.  Oh, and good TV out from nVidia on an HP laptop.
[03:32] <joeb3_> DavidCanarias, ls hplip-2.8.10.run.  do you see the file?  Is the file executable? chmod 750 hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:32] <tiyowan> norcim122: Give it a try, please.
[03:32] <norcim122> it has options like "home, umount, pwd, etc"
[03:32] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Open the terminal and 'cd' to the 'downloads directory. Then in Terminal type ls -l hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:32] <norcim122> I'm in live CD now
[03:32] <jat2> metalslugger: i'll see. Does anyone know if Imagemagick can do jpeg2000's
[03:33] <skovoroda> ok first of all i got an old lap Acer TravelMate 2410 with intel Graphics - I'm just trying to instal drivers or smtg
[03:33] <skovoroda> hot can i know that they are instaled
[03:33] <tiyowan> norcim122: Restart your box. Remove the liveCD, boot from your usb, and try startx.
[03:33] <sabayonweb_68615> Songwind: so this would be cool? http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=204447
[03:33] <murlidhar> !driver | skovoroda
[03:33] <norcim122> then?
[03:33] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: This is all new to me so apologies I am getting lost a bit. Patience plse!! In terminal what do I need to type in
[03:33] <murlidhar> !drivers | skovoroda
[03:33] <murlidhar> hmm
[03:33] <sabayonweb_68615> thats what i could get in the dell package i want
[03:34] <soapbar> sabayonweb_68615: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Device_Vendors
[03:34] <skovoroda> murlindhar  ? where should i do that ?
[03:34] <norcim122> are you looking at a website with this?
[03:34] <DavidCanarias> joeb3-: I can see the file in downloads, but what do you mean by is it executable?
[03:34] <node357> why on Ubuntu does my friend's name look like this but not in Windows? http://www.node357.ca/img/nazi_wtf.jpg
[03:34] <murlidhar> skovoroda: afaik the default driver should work good
[03:34] <tiyowan> norcim122: If it works, you should see the graphical user interface.
[03:34] <norcim122> oh
[03:34] <skovoroda> and why I can tipe "?" only with ctrl+v :)
[03:34] <exodus_ms> cd /home/DavidCanarias/downloads if that is the path, if not just substitute the actually path. If you don't know, look at the top of Naautilus and see where you are at i the file  system
[03:35] <soapbar> skovoroda: press shift+insert
[03:35] <norcim122> I doubt it. but i will try.
[03:35] <soapbar> skovoroda: to paste
[03:35] <PeterFA> Out of curiosity, are there Canonical employees who's only job is to sit here and offer support?
[03:35] <Songwind> sabayonweb_68615: TV tuners are outside by experience - but I know Hauppage makes some supported devices.
[03:35] <tiyowan> norcim122: I'll wait.
[03:35] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, ^
[03:35] <joeb3_> PeterFA, no
[03:35] <stl-outlaw> anyone hearing me
[03:35] <norcim122> Thanks Tiyowan if I don't return!
[03:35] <demonspork> on Ubuntu 7.10, how do I mount partitions from a drive with a Dynamic type? the partitions are NTFS, but ntfs-3g says that they are not valid NTFS
[03:36] <murlidhar> skovoroda: press murli then TAB button to autocomplete my name
[03:36] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: this is the path : home/david/Desktop/Downloads
[03:36] <murlidhar> skovoroda: that way it is easy to spell my name correctly
[03:36] <PeterFA> joeb3_, just asking because I rarely get the, "Google it," attitude in this channel.
[03:36] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Ok, in the Terminal type cd home/david/Desktop/Downloads. Then type ls -l hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:36] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  wwhy i cant just tipe it "?"
[03:36] <PeterFA> joeb3_, pretty nice when I'm providing proxy support.
[03:37] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  with the keyboard :)
[03:37] <tethridge> some dvds I'm unable to play on my system.  Others I can watch fine.  Is the a problem with some new encryption schemes on the newer dvds?  I only have problems with the newer dvds.
[03:37] <murlidhar> skovoroda: maybe the keyboard configuration was not done properly
[03:37] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: I typed in first cd home/david/Desktop/Downloads and it said No such file or directory???? Did I do it wrong?
[03:38] <sabayonweb_68615> also no brainer but i guess it would be better to buy an nvidia card instead of paying to upgrade from intel to ati seeing how ati is not option for the computer i want
[03:38] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  US layout, so any way can i some how check wich drivers are working well ?
[03:38] <sabayonweb_68615> i mean nvidia is not option
[03:38] <murlidhar> skovoroda: i am not sure of it somebody else might
[03:38] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, /home
[03:39] <murlidhar> PeterFA: nobody here is from canonical here . everybody here is to help out each other
[03:39] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  beacause when I'm trying to do it with hardware manager sistem show nothing
[03:39] <timboy> exodus_ms, didn't work. I try to play the file with pulseaudio on no dice then I try to play it with alsa and still no go
[03:39] <skovoroda> murlidhar: hardware drivers*
[03:39] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: You will lose your patience with me!!!   nothing happens when I type in   "/home"
[03:39] <murlidhar> skovoroda: no idea sorry :(
[03:40] <Cpudan80> Does anyone knwo of some software to crop an AVI ?
[03:40] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: it just says its a directory
[03:40] <Cpudan80> like to remove the black bard on the top/bottom of a movie
[03:40] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Ok, You did not put a '/' in front of home previously. Try cd /home/david/Desktop/Downloads/
[03:40] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  och bad :) I just want to know all that tjhings to be sure, that I can work on Linux
[03:40] <skovoroda> I'm tyred of windows
[03:41] <fallore> I've been having a problem recently where my windows get messed up in various ways. Either titles will become very discolored (like inverse colored), or they will be too large and i can not resize them so that part of the window (this mainly happens with FF) is hiden behind the panel or takes the place of the panel.
[03:41] <tiyowan> I wonder whether norcim122 got that USB working. :/
[03:41] <node357> okay I was wrong, he did it on purpose so sorry
[03:41] <murlidhar> skovoroda: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:41] <skovoroda> murlidhar: but you say that everything should work by defult ?
[03:41] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: This is exactly what I typed in :  cd/home/david/Desktop/Downloads   it said no such file or directory
[03:41] <murlidhar> skovoroda: it will ask you some questions . read them carefully before answering them
[03:41] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  o i'll do
[03:42] <tiyowan> DavidCanarias: Try putting in a space after cd?
[03:42] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, You need a space in between cd and /home/path/to/file/
[03:42] <skovoroda> what is the shortkey to clear the desktop :)
[03:42] <skovoroda> like win+d in windows
[03:42] <CarlFK> how can I tell what package installed on my box relies on exim (also installed on my box... trying to figure out why)
[03:43] <murlidhar> skovoroda: clearing the desktop ? what is that ?
[03:43] <ice_cream> skovoroda, that's likely window manager specific
[03:43] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: tiyowan: Sorry - this is the reply now: david@david-desktop:~/Desktop/Downloads$
[03:43] <ice_cream> he wants the effect of minimizing everything
[03:43] <murlidhar> oh
[03:44] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Okat, you are now in the /Downloads directory :) type ls -l hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:44] <outboard> how do i make intrepid find my webcam ? ( inbuilt on an acer aspire5670 laptop)
[03:44] <tiyowan> ice_cream: You mean like show desktop?
[03:44] <tiyowan> outboard: Is it supported?
[03:44] <ice_cream> tiyowan, that's how i understand it
[03:44] <murlidhar> skovoroda: in openbox it works with win+d
[03:44] <tiyowan> !hcl > outboard
[03:44] <outboard> ummmmmmmmmmm
[03:44] <skovoroda> murlidhar: Use kernel framebuffer
[03:44] <skovoroda> yes/no
[03:44] <murlidhar> skovoroda: yes
[03:44] <fallore> my firefox window is too large and doesn't have a resize button. when I click on it from the bottom panel it takes up the space above the panels and so it is the only thing i can see and does not have a button to minimize or maximize it. does anyone know how i can make it go back to normal size?
[03:45] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: this is the reply :  -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 14699287 2008-12-08 17:30 hplip-2.8.10.run
[03:45] <tiyowan> ice_cream: Isn't there a nifty little icon in the bottom left to do that? ;-)
[03:45] <outboard> thanks tiyowan
[03:45] <ice_cream> i wouldnt know
[03:45] <ice_cream> as i said earlier, WM specific
[03:46] <tiyowan> ice_cream: Ah, true.
[03:46] <ice_cream> ubuntu is not necessarily gnome, remember =)
[03:46] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, type sudo apt-get install hplip-gui
[03:46] <Hikefu> fallore, alt-click drag it
[03:46] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, then to configure the printer type sudo hp-setup
[03:46] <fallore> Hikefu: does nothing
[03:46] <murlidhar> outboard: do a lsmod in terminal and see if the drivers for the webcam has been loaded
[03:46] <murlidhar> outboard: nvm :)
[03:47] <node357> how do I turn off CPU frequency scaling ?
[03:47] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, But you will want your printer installed for the final steps of the setup.
[03:47] <tiyowan> node357: You running intrepid?
[03:47] <node357> tiyowan, yes I am
[03:47] <skovoroda> didn't help
[03:48] <skovoroda> maybe the button just does not work
[03:48] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Well this seemed to have worked as the window came up asking which to use, I said the USB and an error came up because the printer isnt connected
[03:48] <Hikefu> fallore alt-space-enter
[03:48] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Did you see my previous msg?
[03:48] <murlidhar> skovoroda: maybe you gotta restart . this is just one way to doing things . i am sure there are many but i don't know them . sorry .
[03:48] <tsrk> is there a way to see all the output that has been displayed in my terminal?
[03:48] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, That is not problem, just hang in there until your printer arrives and run the setup again :)
[03:48] <tsrk> specifically, apt output that says "10 packages will be installed, 0 removed, 0 upgraded" etc?
[03:49] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: apologies saw it as I typed. I just wanted to get the drivers installed in advance. The printer wont be here for a few days. Does that mean I have to repeat this another day?
[03:49] <murlidhar> skovoroda: all the hardware of my desktop works by default ;)
[03:49] <schnauzer> tsrk: You mean save the output? do a "Command > out.txt"
[03:49] <tiyowan> node357: Hang on.
[03:49] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Ok so I will  have to take a copy of what to do then!!
[03:49] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  thx, Now i'll try to start heroes 3 :))))))
[03:49] <fallore> Hikefu: selecting resize/move from that menu in various ways does absolutely nothing
[03:49] <murlidhar> skovoroda: :)
[03:49] <tsrk> schnauzer, sorry, I was unclear, I executed commands a while ago and I want to see the output now
[03:50] <tiyowan> node357: What CPU have you got?
[03:50] <Hikefu> are you using gnome?
[03:50] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  och any way how to manage iso files in ubuntu
[03:50] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Yes, but it wont take very long to setup, you will need your printer installed for calibration...
[03:50] <schnauzer> tsrk: ohhh, in that case i
[03:50] <schnauzer> 'm afraid i don't know
[03:50] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, Just remember sudo hp-setup
[03:50] <murlidhar> skovoroda: apt-cache search iso
[03:50] <tsrk> ok
[03:50] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  what is that :)
[03:51] <murlidhar> skovoroda: you will get some package list in the terminal .
[03:51] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: So I start from the cd/home directory part and follow as instructed by you: ls -- ls hplip etc., and then sudo apt-get install.  Is that correct, with the printer connected of course?
[03:51] <skovoroda> i instaled wine, but what to do next, och ok
[03:51] <murlidhar> skovoroda: wait a sec i will make it easier for you
[03:52] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Yes I forgot.  Well then thanks a million for all your help youve been very kind I appreciate it.
[03:52] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  i got that in last line python-vm-builder - VM builder
[03:52] <qcjn> what do you use to look at power point pps ? cause when i use open office presentation it's really slow, and now i've used powerpoint viewer (Wine ) and my computer froze. Had to restart it ?
[03:52] <murlidhar> skovoroda: no don't do that
[03:53] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, You will not need to be in any particular directory. The 'ls' was just so we could see any output from running the file. To setup up from your terminal just type gksudo hplip-gui
[03:53] <murlidhar> skovoroda: gmount-iso is the name of the application you require . it mounts iso imagess
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[03:53] <tiyowan> Does anyone whether the i8kutils work on 9000 series Inspirons? I need to tweak my cpu fans.
[03:53] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: If I now only have to type in :  gksudo hplip-gui   then that should be quite easy!!
[03:54] <mikeypizano> hi i need some help
[03:54] <metalslugear> mikeypizano, just ask a question :)
[03:54] <mikeypizano> my touchpad how do i enable the soiftware one without xorg in 8,10?
[03:54] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, yes, it is already installed. To run the setup type gksudo hp-setup, if it is a gui setup that is. If not, it is safe to just use sudo.
[03:54] <murlidhar> skovoroda: times up . i need to go . take cares buddy .
[03:55] <lawnninja> Anyone familiar with how to change the hot keys for vmware?  I've been searching google for a few hours now and can't seem to figure out how to change the ctrl alt combo to release the window so I can login
[03:55] <mikeypizano> i was metalslugear  but i was logging in lol
[03:55] <norcim122> tiyowan you there?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !touchpad
[03:55] <teapot> first time using xchat
[03:55] <teapot> where do I enter the server name?
[03:55] <mikeypizano> jack, it wont work since mouse isnt in 8.10 xorg
[03:55] <mikeypizano> that is why i came here to ask
[03:55] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, In short, gksudo hplip-gui and gksudo hp-setup :)
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mikeypizano sorry, that is the only link I have on that
[03:56] <skovoroda> murlidhar:  thx ver much !
[03:56] <teapot> couldnt you just link the driver to the pad?
[03:56] <skovoroda> !iso
[03:56] <teapot> err
[03:56] <teapot> dl*
[03:56] <mikeypizano> guess ill have to see whats ober on the forums lol
[03:56] <skovoroda> what is mountpoint
[03:56] <exodus_ms> DavidCanarias, got to go... good luck!
[03:56] <qcjn> So have any suggestion for those pps
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> skovoroda It is whatever yo make it..
[03:56] <jimi__hendrix> i accidentally installed the i386 version of ubuntu...is there an easy way to go to x86_64 or do i need to reinstall again?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount
[03:57] <kercyr> I have a machine that won't install/boot/etc.. with a ubuntu 8.10 cd.  (It used to run Windows).  Anyone know why it would go into the BusyBox prompt?
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix We strongly suggest new users go with 32 until they are up to speed
[03:57] <DavidCanarias> exodus_ms: Many thks again. Bye
[03:57] <lawnninja> I guess no one has experienced the problem I have
[03:58] <schnauzer> skovoroda: for example, I made a /media/iso folder and mount my images there.
[03:58] <skovoroda> thx guys
[03:58] <skovoroda> Then after mounting it - how can I instal it
[03:58] <jimi__hendrix> Jack_Sparrow: define up to speed....i generally kknow what im doing on linux...
[03:58] <DavidCanarias> I'm off now too! As usual I solved my latest problem here. Thanks heavens for this Chat. Good luck to everyone.
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix Do you understand chroot and 32bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:59] <zhaozhou> skovoroda, What is it you are mounting?
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > skovoroda
[04:00] <norcim122> tiyowan you there?
[04:00] <skovoroda> i'm just training, now i want to mount heroes3 iso
[04:00] <jimi__hendrix> Jack_Sparrow: no i do not because ive never had to do it when i used 64 bit :)
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[04:01] <skovoroda> Jack_Sparrow:  thx
[04:01] <tiyowan> norcim122: How did it go?
[04:01] <five_> can anyone help me with a partition resize
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix flash seems to also give 64's a few problems
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> skovoroda np
[04:01] <norcim122> startx is not available
[04:01] <five_> i have around 250 gb free and ubuntu ibex is on a 22 gb partition
[04:01] <tiyowan> norcim122: Hmm...dang.
[04:01] <five_> i want that extra 250 on my ubuntu partition
[04:02] <norcim122> plus i didn't have admin or root access
[04:02] <schnauzer> five_, have you considered a separate /home partition?
[04:02] <five_> 2 homes?
[04:02] <jimi__hendrix> well whats the advantages to 64bit? just over 4gb of ram?
[04:02] <norcim122> but the error said that I should be able to fix a broken install from live cd
[04:02] <five_> i would like to add to my one
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> five_  /home on its own partition
[04:02] <norcim122> Just dont know where to start
[04:02] <schnauzer> five_, Is /home on the same partition as / ?
[04:02] <sabayonweb_68615> schnauzer: what all can i put in home and how big of partition should i make for it
[04:03] <five_> yes home is on the 22gb part
[04:03] <tiyowan> norcim122: I'm out of suggestions. :( Perhaps the other folks here could help you out. Yeah, I just don't know the cmds. What I do know is you need to do something to the NFS server.
[04:03] <schnauzer> !home
[04:03] <five_> thank you
[04:03] <schnauzer> np
[04:03] <norcim122> Yes, getting access to the install is my first hurdle
[04:03] <norcim122> Thanks anyway.
[04:04] <iceghost>  /quit
[04:04] <gbear14275> is there a way to determine OS similar to the whoami command in terminal?
[04:04] <norcim122> If it helps I think the problem is caused by me messing with the bios.. Enabled SATA and disabled CD Rom
[04:04] <schnauzer> five_, it really helps if you accidentally make your system unbootable - that way you don't lose all your docs
[04:05] <ardchoille> gbarberi: lsb_release -a
[04:05] <five_> lol wut??
[04:05] <rww> !version | gbear14275
[04:05] <five_> accidentally un bootable?
[04:05] <norcim122> tiyowan: can you nudge someone who may help me?
[04:05] <five_> i just deleted vista
[04:05] <ardchoille> five_: Good job
[04:05] <Winball> !unetbootin
[04:05] <arrenlex> five_: Awesome! :D
[04:05] <five_> lol yeah
[04:05] <jimi__hendrix> Jack_Sparrow: does 64bit give anything other than more ram?
[04:05] <schnauzer> like if you make a mistake editing a configuration file, you can just reinstall Ubuntu
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> five_ You can also easily install a second ubuntu or any linux
[04:06] <five_> ive been dualbooting vista nd ubuntu for a while
[04:06] <Panarchy> Hello
[04:06]  * Panarchy says Hi
[04:06] <tiyowan> norcim122: Just repeat your question and someone here should have some ideas.
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix Marginal speed improvement but hardly noticable for many
[04:06] <Lokin> I can't seam to get my second display working In Ubuntu. I have a GeForce 9800GTX+ and th drivers are installed....
[04:06] <five_> jack_sparrow i just want one os and i chose to use ubuntu
[04:06] <norcim122> Anyone else care to try this problem?
[04:06]  * schnauzer applauds five_
[04:06] <norcim122> tiyowan ok
[04:06] <Panarchy> How do I reset the gnome bar and panel to default configuration (so everything is like how it was when I first installed)
[04:06] <five_> just updated to ibex
[04:06] <gbear14275> thank you rww
[04:06] <Panarchy> How do I reset the gnome bar and panel to default configuration (so everything is like how it was when I first installed)
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> five_ I keep a second clean ubuntu on the same drive for tinkering and experimenting
[04:07] <rww> gbear14275: you're welcome :)
[04:07] <BULL3T> whats up all..
[04:07] <five_> anyway ill be back after i finish with this part so i can get my whole drive
[04:07] <Lokin> ...
[04:07] <arrenlex> jimi__hendrix: 64-bit has more registers, but the ability of compilers to make use of them is iffy at best. You won't notice a speed difference for most desktop apps. The most noticeable things are less compatibility and bigger binaries. :(
[04:07] <five_> ive done alot of tinkering with 2 ubuntus and one vista install
[04:07] <schnauzer> five_ I do it because i tend to be a bit... impulsive in my decisions... >.>
[04:07] <norcim122> Need some help access a broken install from Live CD..anyone?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Panarchy To Reset All of Gnome: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/       In terminal type:         rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[04:07] <five_> lol yeah, i had alot of probs with drivers at first :(
[04:07] <arrenlex> norcim122: What problems are you having?
[04:07] <five_> but ive got it pretty much figured out now
[04:08] <norcim122> ok let me explain
[04:08] <Panarchy> Jack_Sparrow, thanks but that's not what I'm looking for. There used to be one simple command to type into terminal
[04:08] <Panarchy> like gconfig reset
[04:08] <Panarchy> or something
[04:08] <five_> and compiz beats the hell out of the resource hogging vista effects
[04:08] <BULL3T> vista sucks.
[04:08] <BULL3T> lol
[04:08] <five_> yeah it does, xp was much better
[04:08] <BULL3T> anyone code?
[04:08] <five_> idk wtf they were thinking
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[04:08] <five_> even bill gates said vista sucked
[04:09] <schnauzer> Panarchy: if you're worried about losing your configs, just rename or move the folders Jack_Sparrow mentioned
[04:09] <norcim122> arrenlex  the error message is: run-init: overmounting root: stale NFS file handle
[04:09] <Panarchy> No
[04:09] <Panarchy> I mean
[04:09] <five_> vista drove me to delete windows
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Swearing is not allowed even if it is shorthand.. thanks
[04:09] <Panarchy> There is an actualy command, something like gconfig-reset
[04:09] <Panarchy> that I was mentioned earlier on
[04:09] <BULL3T> ditto five
[04:09] <five_> lol ill be back later
[04:09] <gbear14275> anyone know where I can find a good exim howto?  I have a friend who setup our exim server and i'm having problems being able to connect to it, was hoping to be able to poke around and discover things like... my exim username
[04:09] <Panarchy> Like about a month ago on this channel
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !lol
[04:09] <BULL3T> i love ubuntu..
[04:09] <rww> five_, BULL3T: please take your discussion of Windows to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##windows
[04:09] <schnauzer> Panarchy: I'm not sure then, I'm afraid.
[04:09] <norcim122> arrenlex: when I boot into my usb presistent install I am directed into busybox shell
[04:09] <Panarchy> Oh
[04:09] <Panarchy> Okay
[04:09] <five_> rww sure no problem
[04:10] <Panarchy> Well any risk in the rm one?
[04:10] <BULL3T> i never knew so many great programming apps were open source.
[04:10] <arrenlex> norcim122: You are unable to boot into the livecd at all?
[04:10] <Panarchy> Is there any risk in this one: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[04:10] <Panarchy> ???
[04:10] <rww> Panarchy: you'll lose all your GNOME settings that way, not just the panel settings
[04:10] <norcim122> no. I am in live cd but need to access my broken install on USB drive
[04:10] <arrenlex> Panarchy: You will lose all of your gnome settings.
[04:10] <schnauzer> Panarchy: No, all it's doing is removing your custom configuration files for GNOME.
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Panarchy read the web page that was linked with it if you have any concern
[04:11] <tiyowan> arrenlex: norcim122's trying to fix a broken USB install of intrepid.
[04:11] <arrenlex> norcim122: By USB drive you mean an external hard drive? Or a USB stick?
[04:11] <schnauzer> Can't blame a guy for being careful with rm -rf though
[04:11] <schnauzer> It can be quite nasty.
[04:11] <norcim122> arrenlex: stick
[04:11] <jake-aus> Hi. I'm fairly new to Ubuntu (8.10), and I am using 4 workspaces (2x2). I can jump from the top left to the bottom right in one move (ctrl+alt+down+right) but cannot do the reverse, bottom right to top left... is it not supposed to be able to?
[04:11] <rww> Panarchy: try http://www.celsius1414.com/node/878 instead, perhaps? it seems to be more targeted
[04:11] <BULL3T> has anyone tried the new borderless linux distro?
[04:11] <rww> !ot | BULL3T
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > BULL3T
[04:12] <arrenlex> norcim122: Ah, never messed around with installing to a usb stick. Sorry about that.
[04:12] <norcim122> arrenlex: its in presistent mode of live CD
[04:12] <norcim122> arrenlex I got through that obsticle after a while
[04:12] <norcim122> arrenlex but this error is probably my messing with bios
[04:13] <norcim122> arrenlex: I guess my question is how to I get into the broken install from a terminal from Live CD
[04:14] <arrenlex> norcim122: I haven't played with this functionality. I don't know anything about it. Sorry.
[04:14] <norcim122> arrenlex Thats fine.. do you know any shell commands if my install was in a HD?
[04:14] <Panarchy> Guys
[04:14] <Panarchy> I did
[04:14] <Panarchy> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[04:14] <Panarchy> Nothings changed
[04:15] <rww> Panarchy: log out and log back in?
[04:15] <Panarchy> How do I 'reload' the bars now
[04:15] <Panarchy> Anything I can do via command line?
[04:15] <rww> Panarchy: or "killall gnome-panel" maybe
[04:15] <schnauzer> Panarchy: killall gnome-panel
[04:15] <Panarchy> ok
[04:15] <Panarchy> then how do I bring it back
[04:15] <schnauzer> it'll come
[04:15] <rww> Panarchy: it should automatically come back
[04:15] <arrenlex> norcim122: Sure, if it was on an hd, just mount the partition and chroot into it.
[04:15] <skovoroda> mhm tell me please some one, ho to instal exe file in ubuntu
[04:15] <Panarchy> Okay
[04:16] <Panarchy> it came back
[04:16] <tristanmike> join #mediatomb
[04:16] <norcim122> arrenlex can we try that?
[04:16] <Panarchy> absolutely no difference to the layout
[04:16] <Panarchy> of the icons and all that
[04:16] <arrenlex> norcim122: mount /dev/sdxy target ; chroot target
[04:16] <rww> !wine | skovoroda
[04:16] <norcim122> arrenlex ok
[04:16] <arrenlex> norcim122: Where xy is sda1, sdb2, or whatever, which is the partition of your drive.
[04:16] <tiyowan> arrenlex: Could it be possible to run startx from the shell despite that NFS error?
[04:17] <skovoroda>  #winehq
[04:17] <tiyowan> norcim122: When you tried to run startx, what did it tell you?
[04:17] <Gunawan> help
[04:17] <Panarchy> Okay, it came back, however there is no difference to the layout of the icons
[04:17] <Panarchy> :(
[04:17] <arrenlex> tiyowan: There is no display adapter from inside the chroot, what would you start X on?
[04:17] <Gunawan> how to install flashplugins for firex
[04:17] <schnauzer> Panarchy: Go to System > Preferences > Appearance and choose the "Human" theme.
[04:17] <Gunawan> how to install flashplugins for firefox
[04:17] <jimi__hendrix> whats that icon called again that lets you control compiz?
[04:17] <arrenlex> Gunawan: Go to http://www.homestarrunner.com and click the nice menu bar at the top. :)
[04:18] <Gunawan> thanks arrenlex
[04:18] <rww> Gunawan: Install the "flashplugin-nonfree" package. "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" or find it and install it in Synaptic
[04:18] <tiyowan> arrenlex: I need to read my man pages.
[04:18] <arrenlex> Gunawan: Alternatively, if you want it available for all users and you want it automatically updated, install the flashplugin-nonfree package, but you will have to enable the multiverse repository I believe.
[04:18] <Panarchy> No difference
[04:18] <Panarchy> tried other themes as well
[04:19] <norcim122> tiyowan  that option is not available in busybox
[04:19] <schnauzer> What's not reverting; the panels, icons, colors,...
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Panarchy what does from term   lsb_release -a tell you
[04:19] <norcim122> arrenlex I get this :  /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/ubuntu
[04:19] <jimi__hendrix> whats that compiz icon that lets you control compiz easily called again?
[04:20] <arrenlex> norcim122: Okay, chroot into that then. sudo chroot /media/ubuntu
[04:20] <metalslugear> jimi__hendrix, are you talking about compizconfig settings manager?
[04:20] <eli_> Any mplayer experts?
[04:20] <arrenlex> !anyone | eli_
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> is a compiz fusion icon
[04:21] <jimi__hendrix> na its called like fuzion icon or something metalslugear
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !info compiz fusion icon
[04:21] <jimi__hendrix> but i installed it from apt last time?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !find fusion
[04:21] <norcim122> arrenlex   I get this ...chroot: cannot change root directory to /media/ubuntu: Operation not permitted
[04:22] <norcim122> sudo didnt help
[04:22] <eli_> Ok, does anyone know how to use Nvidia's purevideo support in mplayer the -vo option is vdpau but that isnt an option in my mplayer
[04:22] <tj83> is there a most used vpn client for ubuntu?
[04:22] <arrenlex> eli_: You should probably ask that in #mplayer, that's pretty technical.
[04:22] <gbear14275> if anyone here might be able to lend a hand with some simple exim help I would be really appreciative
[04:23] <norcim122> arrenlex:  with sudo chroot   i get this   chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[04:23] <tj83> !vpn > tj83
[04:23] <arrenlex> norcim122: Ah, that's a totally different error.
[04:23] <arrenlex> norcim122: What exactly did you do to your installation?
[04:24] <jimi__hendrix> E: Couldn't find package fusion-icon
[04:24] <norcim122> arrenlex today I enabled then disabled SATA in bios and disabled and enabled CD Rom
[04:24] <jimi__hendrix> wont find vim or gvim either...
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !info fusion-icon
[04:24] <orman> I get "Segmentation Fault" error when trying to run an OpenGL/GLUT python code. I got freeglut, what else am I missing?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix did you enable universe
[04:24] <arrenlex> norcim122: That wouldn't explain why /bin/bash would be missing... can you cd into /media/ubuntu, do an ls and tell me what directories are there?
[04:25] <eseven73> emacs ftw
[04:25] <norcim122> arrenlex should i be able to see it from explorer window?
[04:25] <norcim122> arrenlex not explorer but you know
[04:25] <rww> jimi__hendrix: do you have the universe repository enabled? have you done sudo apt-get update recently?
[04:25] <orman> I can compile C++ OpenGL, but not a python/OpenGL app. :(
[04:25] <mneptok> norcim122: the generic term is "file manager"
[04:26] <norcim122> arrenlex ya
[04:26] <jimi__hendrix> Jack_Sparrow: why have i never had to do that before?
[04:26] <norcim122> arrenlex I only see the files you see when you open the install CD
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jimi__hendrix it is a fact of life
[04:26] <norcim122> arrenlex plus a very large casper-rw
[04:27] <crist1> how do i get advanced desktop effects?
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !repo
[04:27] <robert__> if i delete evolution will it make my system crash?
[04:27] <robert__> i remember it use to, was that problem fixed yet?
[04:28] <orman> I think aptitude takes care of the dependencies if you remove an app
[04:28] <rww> robert__: if you don't remove evolution-data-server, which is needed by a lot of gnome, you should be okay
[04:28] <jimi__hendrix> ok one more thing...i need 1 or 2 simple addicting fun games....any suggestions?
[04:28] <robert__> thanks
[04:28] <rww> jimi__hendrix: wormux, lbreakout, nexuiz
[04:28] <crist1> how do i get advanced desktop effects or whatever?
[04:29] <neoplasticity> which version are you running?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm > crist1
[04:29] <arrenlex> norcim122: There's no /bin ?
[04:30] <five1> ok im on the live cd need some help
[04:30] <orman> type locate /bin
[04:30] <ZeZu> !ccsm > zezu
[04:30] <gbear14275> if anyone has experience with exim and could help me answer a few very basic questions I would be very appreciative
[04:30] <norcim122> arrenlex there is bin in live cd... which im logged in to
[04:30] <five1> im pretty sure i have an extra linux part i want to remove
[04:30] <a1len> What's a good program to do svf with?
[04:30] <jimi__hendrix> ya
[04:30] <norcim122> arrenlex i guess it is looking for bin in the broken install?
[04:30] <arrenlex> norcim122: I mean on the partition you are working with... /media/ubuntu
[04:31] <bullgard4> crist1: System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects > Extra > Close
[04:31] <kindofabuzz> lsusb sees my webcam, but cannot get it working. any ideas?
[04:31] <orman> you find a driver?
[04:31] <Somali-Pirate> Question: I installed ibex using wubi, but every time I make an update, ubuntu freezes and reboots
[04:31] <Somali-Pirate> What's up with that?
[04:31] <norcim122> arrenlex no. The files i see are the same as the CD install files ..dist install pics pool etc
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Somali-Pirate Please consider wubi is a test drive and not (in my opinion) for everyday use
[04:32] <arrenlex> norcim122: Ah, so it's nothing at all like a plain old hw install. Sorry man.
[04:33] <norcim122> arrenlex  its a usb presistent.. i guess everything is in casper-rw.. very large file
[04:33] <Somali-Pirate> Jack_Sparrow: No, right, it WAS a test, but I want to know if it's fixable, otherwise I'll just do the real thing.
[04:33] <arrenlex> norcim122: It's probably a compressed archive (cpio I'm guessing) but there's nothing I can do to help you with that. Sorry.
[04:33] <norcim122> arrenlex  maybe we can look into casper-rw   and how to get into it?
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Somali-Pirate sorry, but I wont use it nor recommend it so I am not the person that can help untangle it
[04:34] <Somali-Pirate> Jack_Sparrow: =/
[04:34] <Somali-Pirate> Jack_Sparrow: Aye, mate.
[04:34] <orman> anyone suggest a good coding irc for openGL / C++?
[04:35] <orman> I keep thinking there might be ghost towns on the ones I find on google
[04:35] <darkhamm> i've downloade a tarball , but i can't compile with ./configure - make - make install
[04:35] <darkhamm> how can i do?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> darkhamm Read the howto on the site or in the file
[04:36] <norcim122> arrenlex looks like reinstall time... Thanks anyway!
[04:37] <darkhamm> Jack_Sparrow: the tarball is http://qtmpc.lowblog.nl/ , there's nothing about compiling
[04:37] <Panarchy> How do I reset the gnome bar and panel to default configuration (so everything is like how it was when I first installed)
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> darkhamm look inside the tar
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Panarchy Did you ever answer me earlier on lsb_release -a
[04:38] <ZeZu> orman, #C++ #opengl
[04:38] <ZeZu> freenode and efnet
[04:38] <darkhamm> Jack_Sparrow: i extract all the tar in a folder, i haven't readme
[04:39] <five1> ok im trying to do this Create a separate home partition in Ubuntu and when i cd mkdir /old it says dir exists
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> darkhamm  if they cant provide help on it we cant do much
[04:39] <five1> oops i mean
[04:39] <five1> mkdir /old
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> five1 /home does exist, are you sure you are trying to create a sep home per the psychocats tutorial
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Panarchy Did you ever answer me earlier on lsb_release -a
[04:40] <five1> mkdir: cannot create directory `/old': File exists
[04:40] <darkhamm> Jack_Sparrow: i have: CHANGELOG     gui     lib      main.cpp   QtMPC.qrc database.dtd  images  LICENSE  QtMPC.pro
[04:40] <darkhamm> gui lib images are folders
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> darkhamm I cant help with that. If someone writes something and has no documentation.. it is not something I would even consider running/installing
[04:41] <rww> darkhamm: get in contact with the creator of the program and ask him/her :)
[04:41] <five1> jack sparrow i have followed the tut and this is the error i get
[04:41] <rww> darkhamm: and, when you do, consider asking them to put instructions on their website so other people don't have to do the same
[04:42] <darkhamm> Jack_Sparrow, rww, thanx anyway... :)
[04:42] <pallu> hello all of you
[04:43] <pallu> how can i rip a cd
[04:43] <outlaw1> can somebody check this stream for me and see if it plays for them and what player it works with  mms://media.blackcrow.fm/wndb  I was streaming it no problem but havent been able to for 4 days now. Thanks in advance
[04:43] <five1> mkdir: cannot create directory `/old': File exists how do i get around this?
[04:43] <outlaw1> BTW i was using banshee
[04:43] <five1> i can cd old
[04:43] <five1> but nothing is there
[04:43] <rww> !enter
[04:43] <drog> I frequently
[04:44] <drog> use enter at random
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> five1 can you pastebin your sudo fdisk -l
[04:44] <Architect> Annnnnnnnnd I'm back.
[04:44] <Architect> And I have a problem!
[04:44] <outlaw1> anyway to not show when people enter and leave room ?
[04:45] <outlaw1> command ?
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> drog I tend to kisck users at random so good luck
[04:45] <Architect> What does it mean when you try to install Ubuntu and all you get is a grey screen.
[04:45] <drog> I would love a kisck from you Jack_Sparrow
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> outlaw1 in xchat click the channel tab
[04:45] <Panarchy> How do I reset the gnome bar and panel to default configuration (so everything is like how it was when I first installed)
[04:45] <outlaw1> i'm in pidgin
[04:45] <outlaw1> maybe i should use xchat
[04:46] <Panarchy> or mibbit
[04:46] <outlaw1> new to irc so not familiar with alot of things
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> outlaw1 pidgin is not the best of clients
[04:46] <outlaw1> oh ok, i'll switch
[04:46] <outlaw1> thanks
[04:46] <Architect> So nobody wants to help.
[04:46] <rww> outlaw1: xchat is better, but you can do it in Pidgin by going to the main Buddy List window, and doing Tools > Plugins > Join/Part Hiding
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > Architect
[04:46] <outlaw1> cool , thanks
[04:46] <five1> what is the remove directory command?
[04:47] <Panarchy> rmdir
[04:47] <rww> outlaw1: and from xchat by right-clicking on the channel in the channel list and doing Settings > Hide Join/Part Messages (or something like that)
[04:47] <five1> thank you
[04:47] <rww> five1: rm -r directoryname
[04:47] <drog> Jack_Sparrow, You've deteriorated as captain of this crazy ship
[04:47] <Panarchy> You're wlecome
[04:47] <Architect> Wagga
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> five1 Please be careful, I have a bad feeling ..
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[04:48]  * drog returns to lurking -offtopic
[04:50] <Panarchy> How do I reset the gnome bar and panel to default configuration (so everything is like how it was when I first installed)
[04:50] <five1> when i attempt to mount -t /dev/sda3 /old it gives me a loong list of commands
[04:51] <Panarchy> pastebox please
[04:51] <rww> Panarchy: what's the output of lsb_release -a?
[04:51] <uffet> is there anyway to stop a dvd from autostarting in ubuntu
[04:51] <Panarchy> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 8.10 Release:	8.10 Codename:	intrepid
[04:52] <five1> lol i know what i did
[04:52] <Panarchy> lol
[04:53] <Melik> how do i switch to metacity?
[04:54] <bazhang> !resetpanels | Panarchy
[04:55] <rww> i really should read through the factoid database one of these days >.>
[04:55] <ardchoille> melnik: metacity --replace
[04:55] <alex_mayorga> Hello, anyone that knows how to do this with Intrepid http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/07/30/all-in-one-pendrivelinux-2008/ ?
[04:56] <gbear14275> is there a way to run a sudo command when you ae connected to a server via nautilus?
[04:56] <gbear14275> i supposedly don't have permissions to access a folder as this user
[04:56] <Lamo> Where can I get flash for 64 bit Ubuntu 8.10?
[04:56] <seejay> sarana_monk, hi!
[04:57] <gbear14275> lamo, google, linux flash 64bit
[04:57] <jtaji> alex_mayorga: go to the main page http://www.pendrivelinux.com and you will see links for 8.10
[04:57] <rww> Lamo: install package "flashplugin-nonfree" from the multiverse repository
[04:57] <nathan42100> I thought archive manager can open rars
[04:57] <outlaw1> any suggestion on best player to stream mms , anything besides ''banshee'' and Mplayer ?
[04:57] <rww> !rar | nathan42100
[04:57] <alex_mayorga> jtaji, yes but none seems to be native/qemu
[04:57] <nathan42100> rww: thanks
[04:57] <eli_> WTH is the point of eSATA the regualr sata port is already small enough
[04:58] <rww> !ot | eli_
[04:58] <fr500> alex_mayorga: where yoou from?
[04:58] <Somali-Pirate> What's the point of having a #ubuntu-offtopic channel if you're not talking about ubuntu?
[04:58] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install rar
[04:58] <alex_mayorga> I would like to get a pendrive that would load natively (USB boot) and from within win32 (via qemu, virtualbox, etc)
[04:58] <alex_mayorga> fr500, .mx why?
[04:58] <outlaw1> what would be discussed in off topic ?
[04:58] <kr00l> how do i see what ubuntu's ip is on this machine?
[04:59] <Somali-Pirate> outlaw1: All offtopic things
[04:59] <outlaw1> ifconfig
[04:59] <metalslugear> kr00l, ifconfig
[04:59] <gbear14275> anyone know about how to increase your priveleges when connected to a server in nautilus
[04:59] <Panarchy> Bazhang: Thanks
[04:59] <Somali-Pirate> Otacon22: Think of this way, everything other than the first word in the chat name
[04:59] <rww> Somali-Pirate: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for everything else that Ubuntu community members want to talk about, including non-support Ubuntu-related issues.
[04:59] <Panarchy> Bazhang: Thanks, it worked
[04:59] <Panarchy> YAY
[04:59] <gbear14275> can that be done even?
[04:59] <sarana_monk> seejay, are you here?
[04:59] <rww> Somali-Pirate: (assuming it doesn't violate !o4o, anyway)
[05:00] <outlaw1> oh ok, just curious , thanks
[05:00] <Somali-Pirate> rww: Right.
[05:00] <seejay> yes
[05:00] <seejay> sarana_monk, yup!
[05:00] <Somali-Pirate> rww: May I suggest that the offtopic channel be renamed #ubuntu and the support one #ubuntu-help?
[05:00] <Somali-Pirate> Would clear a lot of that up =]
[05:01] <gbear14275> anyone?
[05:01] <Roasted> Anybody run NFS?
[05:01] <whyameye> when I am building and get something like "lo.h no such file" how do I trace that back to a -dev library in the repos?
[05:01] <rww> gbear14275: what type of server are you connecting to? ssh, ftp, etc?
[05:01] <Roasted> What's the average transfer speed (per second) of NFS?
[05:02] <fr500> Roasted: it's up to your network media
[05:02] <geenome> hey is there a program like ultra iso for Linux?
[05:02] <ideas36> 大家好
[05:02] <rww> geenome: what does such a program do?
[05:02] <histo> geenome, what does ultra iso do?
[05:02] <gbear14275> ssh, from ubuntu 8.10 to debian 4
[05:02] <Roasted> fr500 - I understand that, I'm talking in terms fo a typical 10/100 wired network. I'm curious on what kind of speeds you can expect in that scenario.
[05:02] <fr500> geenome: if you want to mount iso there is mount-iso
[05:03] <kr00l> Anyone know how to setup Myth TV?
[05:03] <histo> fr500, you don't need an app to mount an iso in linux
[05:03] <LeviTheSmith> Guys I need you help. I've just got an old laptop (Asus A2H). I installed Fedora on it and the sound and LAN didn't work. So I popped XP on there and I managed to get sound after installing the appropriate drivers. But even with the drivers the LAN doesn't work. So this is my question: What should I do with this laptop? If I throw Ubuntu on it will the sound or ethernet work?
[05:03] <fr500> Roasted: I get 90% utilization on a 100mbps link eeeasy
[05:03] <fr500> histo: i know but it's a nice frontend
[05:03] <rww> gbear14275: hmm. if you have admin access on the box, you could ssh into it from the terminal and copy the file somewhere you have access to as a regular user
[05:03] <geenome> ultra iso is a cool gui program that I can take files and make ISO images from them it is quite powerful
[05:03] <Roasted> fr500 - what's that mean in terms of megabytes per second?
[05:03] <histo> geenome, you can use dd and make iso's
[05:03] <fr500> Roasted: 90mbps
[05:04] <Roasted> You can transfer 90MB/second????
[05:04] <histo> !iso | geenome
[05:04] <fr500> Roasted: megabit
[05:04] <fr500> not megabyte
[05:04] <Roasted> ohhhhh
[05:04] <Roasted> which concerts to how many megabytes...?
[05:04] <rww> gbear14275: but i don't think there's a way of doing something like that from inside Nautilus, no.
[05:04] <jtaji> LeviTheSmith: boot the laptop with the ubuntu desktop cd and see if it works
[05:04] <geenome> I need to make ISOs not mount them lol
[05:04] <rww> Roasted: divide by 8
[05:04] <geenome> but ty for the info
[05:04] <Roasted> ah okay, so you're pulling like 11.25 megabytes/second... okay...
[05:04] <histo> geenome, hold up let me get you way to make the iso
[05:04] <fr500> Roasted: 11ish
[05:04] <geenome> yes
[05:05] <Roasted> I'm running Samba, and I'm pulling an average of 7.5 a second.
[05:05] <gbear14275> rww:  ok... i'm not very effiecient with terminal commands yet and would prefer to be able to use nautilus to browse remotely but if I can't upgrade my permissions then I might be out of luck
[05:05] <fr500> Roasted: seems normal though depends on you hdd speeds too!
[05:05] <Roasted> Thing is, when I trasnfer files windows xp to windows xp (wired desktops) I also get 7.5 megabytes a second.
[05:05] <rww> gbear14275: i'm not sure that sftp supports sudo, hence nautilus not supporting it
[05:05] <Roasted> so I guess my speeds are pretty decent then?
[05:05] <fr500> yes
[05:05] <TecR0c> how do i go about updating nmap to the new version
[05:06] <Roasted> sounds good, thanks for the info!
[05:06] <fr500> Roasted: well i moved to glusterfs for server storage aggregation, now I get those speeds too
[05:06] <Roasted> fr500 - "those speeds" meaning 7.5?
[05:06] <fr500> yes
[05:06] <gbear14275> rww: is there a way to open nautilus from a terminal window which has already logged into the box?
[05:06] <Roasted> ah, good stuff
[05:06] <histo> geenome, there are some gui apps for doing it such as gnome-baker and k3b I think k3b is a favorite .  But if you check the forums or ask for burning applications there are plenty.
[05:06] <geenome> I know DD but I cant simply edit what is inside the ISO or take files and put them in
[05:06] <gbear14275> or... something along that route?
[05:06] <fr500> Roasted: there is always some overhead and the switches involved do help
[05:06] <LeviTheSmith> Is there an Ultra compressed Ubuntu ISO? I've been hitting the downloads pretty heavy the past couple of days. I don't mean one with less features, I mean one that's been compressed to hell.
[05:07] <geenome> and I am not trying to burn the ISO either >.<
[05:07] <Roasted> fr500 - yeah, I'm running a small 10/100 5 port Netgear switch... Certainly not top notch.
[05:07] <histo> geenome, you can use the archive manager to open iso's
[05:07] <jtaji> LeviTheSmith: no it's already compressed actually
[05:07] <histo> geenome, you should be able to just double click on them.
[05:07] <fr500> connected to a catalyst 2924 i used to get 6ish but the switch was dying, now with 2960s it's pretty snappy
[05:07] <Roasted> Perhaps if I dumped some money in a router with gigabit ports + my switch here with some gigabit ports I'd swing some hefty numbers.
[05:07] <rww> gbear14275: you probably could, but it'd be much less efficient than just learning the command line. something along the lines of X11 forwarding, but then the server would have to support that too...
[05:07] <LeviTheSmith> :( dang
[05:07] <uffet> is it possible to get skype to work with pulseaudio?
[05:07] <Roasted> But my speeds are good for what I need. I just wanted to know if the speedsI got were normal or not. That was really all I needed. :)
[05:07] <histo> geenome, you may just want ot check out k3b
[05:07] <fr500> Roasted: you would get maybe 300mbps at most
[05:08] <histo> !k3b | geenome
[05:08] <geenome> with Ultra ISO I can edit the boot tables, I can edit the file contents without effecting the rest of the ISO and can manipulate them so that I can use them in a CD presser
[05:08] <fr500> Roasted: with commodity hardware at least
[05:08] <ideas36> how do you think about SMPlayer?
[05:08] <geenome> I know K3B
[05:08] <histo> geenome, i'm sure you can probably do that with k3b you might also be able to just run ultraiso with wine
[05:08] <histo> !wine | geenome
[05:09] <geenome> Wine just crashes honestly is there anyone else who may know
[05:09] <Roasted> fr500 - question... I live at home, and we have a router + switch. The switch is mine, since I have several test computers. If I upgraded my switch to a gigabit switch, then anything I transfer to other computers on the switch would be gigabit... right? Or would the information have to go up to the router too? (which would limit to 100mbps)
[05:09] <geenome> ty histo
[05:09] <geenome> your input was greatly valued
[05:10] <qcjn> hi, i'm having difficulty's whit graphics, like video, dioparama etc. But only under Ubuntu, not under win..Could you suggest me somthing for trouble shoothing ?
[05:11] <histo> geenome, np
[05:12] <histo> geenome, just found another application kiso
[05:12] <dgarr> !suspend command line
[05:12] <sinan> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:13] <histo> Roasted, switches are smart routers arent'
[05:13] <histo> Roasted, actually other way around routers are more sofisticated then switches but man i'm tired.
[05:14] <geenome> I am liking KDE more and more ty
[05:14] <geenome> thats exactly what I am looking for
[05:14] <histo> Roasted, if both pcs are directly connected to the switch then it shouldnt' be a problem.
[05:14] <Anacranom> histo, (switches are smart hubs, ;-)   )
[05:14] <histo> geenome, well you can run those apps in gnome.
[05:14] <histo> Anacranom, I know I ddin't mean what i typed fat fingers.
[05:14] <teratoma> does Jaunty Jackalope have support for two monitors, with one monitor rotated 90 degrees ?
[05:15] <geenome> no switches are vpn servers hubs are simply a ring bus
[05:15] <histo> teratoma, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:15] <StormAtRest> im using Wubi.. Iso image.. but still its downloading the data from internet.. why?
[05:15] <Anacranom> histo, i know bro, tired here too
[05:15] <Roasted> okay, thanks histo!
[05:15] <Roasted> have a good night!
[05:15] <yoyo> hai
[05:15] <histo> StormAtRest, are you installing?
[05:15] <amikrop> When will Python 2.6.x and 3.0.y be packaged and get into the repositories?
[05:15] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im still havint the problem of my wireless going out on my after i start a torrent download.... i lose the connection, and need to reboot in order to get it back, anyone have any ideas?
[05:16] <rww> StormAtRest: put the .iso file in the same folder as the Wubi .exe. If you have already, and it's downloading an amd64 iso, start Wubi with the "--32bit" argument.
[05:16] <geenome> a hub and a switch are so completely not the same thing histo it is like comparing apples to oranges
[05:16] <amikrop> When will Python 2.6.x and 3.0.y be packaged and get into the repositories?
[05:16] <StormAtRest> aight.. thanx
[05:16] <ardchoille> amikrop: it won't
[05:16] <geenome> hubs are best used in a network where the OS is the same throughout and the computers act as their own servers
[05:16] <histo> geenome, no a hub is stupid compaired to s switch and a router is more sophisticated then either of them.
[05:16] <geenome> the switch is the server
[05:16] <ardchoille> amikrop: after release we only see bug fixes and security updates
[05:16] <yoyo> hai
[05:16] <amikrop> ardchoille: So, in 9.04?
[05:17] <geenome> and a hub has its merits
[05:17] <histo> geenome, hubs have no software routing etc... Hardware handles the routing of traffic.
[05:17] <ardchoille> amikrop: 9.04 might have it
[05:17] <seejay> guys how can I configure my video card in ubuntu?
[05:17] <histo> anyhoot discusion for a different channel.
[05:17] <geenome> which slows things down if you were making say a beuwulf cluster
[05:17] <node357> how can I disable CPU frequency scaling in Intrepid ?
[05:17] <seejay>  xorgsetup or xorgconfig is not available :(
[05:17] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im still havint the problem of my wireless going out on my after i start a torrent download.... i lose the connection, and need to reboot in order to get it back, anyone have any ideas?
[05:17] <geenome> you can only make a beuwulf cluster with a hub
[05:17] <DaKine> how do i enable opengl
[05:17] <histo> why is yoyo attempting to dcc with me?
[05:18] <_cb> I don't have sound but if I log onto another account there is sound so it has to be a setting that applies to me. Where do I look? (Volume is turned up)
[05:18] <geenome> a switch or a router are too smart and try to treat each computer as different computers
[05:18] <histo> ops
[05:18] <amikrop> ardchoille: Is there any .deb for them?
[05:18] <geenome> with a beuwulf cluster you can treat 4 computers running linux like one computer
[05:18] <rww> !ot | geenome
[05:19] <ardchoille> amikrop: you can check, but I wouldn't install anything outside the repos - but that's just me.
[05:19] <StormAtRest> its again doing the same.. i placed wubi and the iso in the same folder.
[05:19] <histo> node357, you can reconfigure gnome-applets and use that to control scaling
[05:19] <geenome> I was supporting rww
[05:19] <histo> node357, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets when it asks you should the selecter get root priveleges tell it yes.
[05:20] <StormAtRest> geenome.. its still downloading from internet.
[05:20] <amikrop> ardchoille: I quite agree.
[05:20] <histo> node357, then you can add the frequency scaler to your panel and adjust all sorts of options.
[05:20] <ardchoille> amikrop: one of the reasons Ubuntu has always been super stable for me :)
[05:21] <node357> histo, thank you!
[05:21] <nex3> Does anyone know where I can find documentation on HAL FDI files?
[05:21] <histo> node357, np
[05:21] <histo> nex3, google
[05:21] <amikrop> ardchoille: As stable as Debian testing.
[05:21] <nex3> histo: I've tried, without much luck
[05:22] <node357> histo, an immediate improvement in performance :)
[05:22] <nex3> Oh, wait, there's a handbook
[05:22] <histo> nex3, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948154
[05:22] <histo> node357, at the cost of battery
[05:23] <jhelmus> Is there a script which tries to guess X configuration information?  My xorg.conf does have any input sections and using dpkg to reconfigure the xserver isn't helping
[05:23] <node357> histo, this is a desktop machine so it's good... but I can see how the scaling would be great for a laptop
[05:23] <histo> jhelmus, what is the problem?
[05:23] <garrettk88> hey guys, i have ubuntu 8.04. I've been trying to get my broadcom wireless to work using ndiswrapper, i've followed all the instructions on the website but I still have yet to get it to work. I tried blacklisting the drivers that apparently prevent it from working but so far i've had no success. Any ideas?
[05:23] <node357> histo, anyway I'll shut up now. thanks for the help !
[05:23] <rww> node357: if you want frequency scaling gone forever, disable or remove powernowd :)
[05:24] <histo> node357, yeap.  You might want to disable it completely then if its a desktop machine some searching on the forums will show you how.
[05:24] <nex3> histo: Thanks
[05:24] <histo> node357, there you go rww  solution should work.  Couldn't remember the naem of it.
[05:24] <histo> nex3, np
[05:24] <alex_21> Does anyone haveexperiance working with torrents. As in posting one somehow, since I want to upload the Beta of my OS which is Ubunut based
[05:24] <alex_21> ?
[05:24] <jhelmus> histo: I get to the gdm login but my mouse and keyboard don't respond, so I have to dump mysel to a shell using Alt+F1
[05:24] <nex3> How'd you find it?
[05:24] <WIGGMPk> garrettk88: have you tried just using the restricted drivers manager??? System > Administration  Hardware Drivers
[05:24] <node357> thank you rww and histo
[05:24] <rww> node357: you're welcome. glad to help; i know how frustrating powernowd is >.>
[05:25] <histo> jhelmus, have they ever worked on this machine?
[05:25] <jhelmus> histo, nope, I'm trying to install openbox off a minimal server install
[05:25] <garrettk88> WIGGMPk -- Thanks, i'll give that a shot (im new to linux btw)
[05:26] <histo> jhelmus, hrm... did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure ?
[05:26] <alex_21> Oh, and what is a minimal Server Install, just the standard Server install disk?
[05:26] <WIGGMPk> garrettk88: np, my other laptop has a broadcom wireless card and Ubuntu was able to pick it up and install the drivers via the restricted drivers manager
[05:26] <jhelmus> histo, yup, put it doesn't seem to ask enough, it stops after I tell it what keyboard I have
[05:27] <histo> jhelmus, yeah what else do you want to add?
[05:27] <jhelmus> minimal server install is whatever is on the alternative Xubuntu CD (I assumed all the minimal installs were the same)
[05:27] <alex_21> That isn't server though, is it?
[05:28] <histo> jhelmus, yes then did you install the X core packages?
[05:28] <jhelmus> histo, well I would like at least my keyboard added, which isn't, and the mouse
[05:28] <alex_21> Does anyone haveexperiance working with torrents. As in posting one somehow, since I want to upload the Beta of my OS which is Ubunut based?
[05:28] <rww> alex_21: which torrent client are you using?
[05:28] <alex_21> None at the moment
[05:28] <alex_21> But it has to be GNome
[05:29] <outlaw1> deluge works good for me sudo apt-get deluge
[05:29] <alex_21> I want to do like the guys at Ubuntu do and offer the distro in a torrent
[05:29] <SpAc> I'm having limited success finding a solution. My Qt4 apps (such as VLC) have nasty looking fonts. My font settings in gnome is set to LCD subpixel smoothing
[05:29] <histo> loll my chair just broke.
[05:29] <sleepy_cat> guys have any idea about the favicon in the window
[05:29] <jhelmus> I did a apt-get xorg xterm gdm openbox obconf, with all the suggested deps
[05:29] <histo> wish i had a webcam going
[05:29] <alex_21> outlaw1: Is that for me?
[05:30] <histo> jhelmus, I can't htink of any scripts that do it.
[05:30] <outlaw1> what ?
[05:30] <outlaw1> deluge?
[05:30] <outlaw1> torrent
[05:30] <alex_21> outlaw1: Yes
[05:30] <jhelmus> is there a standard xorg.conf file for reference somewhere?
[05:30] <rww> alex_21: okay, let's go with transmission then. Install it, open it, do Torrent > New, put the file you're torrenting in Source, add a tracker in Trackers.
[05:30] <sleepy_cat> hwo does Firefox display a favicon in the window
[05:30] <outlaw1> oh yeah...............deluge works better for me than transmission, which is the one ubuntu comes with
[05:31] <garrett88\> i enabled the restricted wireless drivers but still, my wireless card isn't found
[05:31] <rww> alex_21: the instructions are probably similar for deluge and most other clients
[05:31] <alex_21> Oh, so it doen't even need to be in the Liux version of Transmition
[05:31] <mom> :/
[05:31] <kindofabuzz> i need help getting a logitech quickcam working
[05:31] <rww> alex_21: nope, most bittorrent clients can do it
[05:31] <outlaw1> it will let you manually set ports to where in transmission i couldnt get good speeds and i dont think it lets you manually set ports. but not sure
[05:31] <histo> jhelmus, you should just need xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common
[05:31] <sleepy_cat> guys favicon ...anyone know anything about favicon
[05:31] <rww> sleepy_cat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon
[05:32] <random_soslw> why wont ubuntu recognize DVD+RW ?
[05:32] <sabayonweb_24365> if lsusb does nothing what does that mean
[05:32] <outlaw1> not sure
[05:32] <kindofabuzz> !quickcam
[05:32] <kindofabuzz> !webcam
[05:32] <random_soslw> !dvd+rw
[05:32] <random_soslw> :/
[05:32] <random_soslw> !burn
[05:32] <alex_21> Oh, so go to new, then to put my file insource and then add tracker?
[05:32] <_cb> I don't have sound but if I log onto another account there is sound so it has to be a setting that applies to me. Where do I look? (Volume is turned up)
[05:33] <alex_21> Then what happens to my .tor file. I mean how do I get it going
[05:33] <alex_21> ?
[05:33] <SpAc> just trying to get the fonts of VLC to match the fonts in the rest of my desktop
[05:33] <random_soslw> is it possible to hook up another hardrive and burn the files directly there?
[05:33] <rww> alex_21: your client will sit there seeding the file, and you distribute the created .torrent file to people who want to download
[05:33] <rww> !find libuuid jaunty
[05:34] <nex3> Does anyone know how to set control+click to be right click for a MacBook running Intrepid?
[05:34] <abouche2> the terminal says flash is installed but firefox doesn't whats wrong?
[05:35] <alex_21> _CB: I had the same issue, but it went away with an update funnily enough
[05:35] <WIGGMPk> abouche2: did you restart firefox after installing flash?
[05:35] <abouche2> no hold on
[05:35] <sleepy_cat>  I got the link but i want to know how doe the web browser know abt the favicon
[05:35] <sleepy_cat>  and how does it display them
[05:35] <sleepy_cat>  besides the link in the address bar
[05:36] <_cb> alex_21 I just updated from 8.04 to 8.10 and issue persists. Am thinking about doing a clean install for 8.1 but don't want to have to redo evolution settings.
[05:36] <abouche2> i did restart firefox after installing flash
[05:36] <eli_> how do i compile witha lower gcc version
[05:36] <jhelmus> humm, how can you restart an X server when it doesn't know about the keyboard?
[05:37] <WIGGMPk> abouche2: try this "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[05:37] <arrenlex> jhelmus: does pressing ctrl+alt+f2 put you in a terminal?
[05:37] <sabayonweb_24365> alt f2
[05:37] <alex_21> nex3: No, but as a work around use "SHFT" + "F10"
[05:37] <abouche2> i installed flash and the terminals says it there but firfox doesn;t whats wrong
[05:38] <nex3> alex_21: I'd rather just do the two-finger tap, if I have to
[05:38] <nex3> So does that mean there's no way, or you don't know of a way?
[05:38] <subsume> Can I use the ubuntu CD to mount and unmount my disks, do some moving around, pre-install??
[05:38] <subsume> + USB
[05:38] <jhelmus> arrenlex, gets me to a shell, I have a shell, just dpkg-reconfigure left xorg.conf in terrible shape
[05:38] <subsume> If so... where is the hardware browser?
[05:38] <WIGGMPk> abouche2: lol forget that.. i dont know why I was thinking java there for a sec
[05:38] <arrenlex> jhelmus: If you have a shell, you can restart X by issuing sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[05:39] <jedi06> how do i make it so a file isn't readonly
[05:39] <jhelmus> arrenlex, right thanks
[05:39] <bullgard4> Using packages.ubuntu.com I could not find the package ubuntu-system-panel. Where is this to be found?
[05:39] <alex_21> nex3: There is a way, but I am blind and therefore don't use the mouse/trackpad under anything except Mac OS X, where I catually can. BTW: How is your configuration set up as far as partitioning?
[05:39] <arrenlex> jhelmus: I assume you'll want to edit your file before you do that though... you know your way around nano or vi or something?
[05:39] <jedi06> i used chmod 755 but I still can't write to it
[05:39] <WIGGMPk> abouche2: try this: "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:40] <ardchoille> WIGGMPk: he's gone, says he'll fix it in the morning
[05:40] <arrenlex> jedi06: Then you don't own it. sudo chown yourusername:yourusername file
[05:40] <dgarr>  abouche2: it may be helpful to try this url in firefox:    about:plugins
[05:40] <WIGGMPk> ardchoille: grr, left while I was typing lol.. thanks for letting me know
[05:40] <nex3> alex_21: I've got OSX installed as the primary partition and Linux installed as the secondary
[05:40] <arrenlex> WIGGMPk: protip: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[05:40] <jhelmus> arrenlex, yup I should be able to put things back into shape now
[05:40] <subsume> Where did the hardware browser go in Ubuntu??
[05:40] <nex3> I'm considering nuking OSX since I don't use it anymore, though
[05:40] <WIGGMPk> arrenlex: doesnt get rid of the config files though
[05:40] <arrenlex> jhelmus: Awesome, good luck
[05:41] <Tyrath> !skype
[05:41] <arrenlex> WIGGMPk: Ah, sorry, I missed that.
[05:41] <Tyrath> gah
[05:41] <Tyrath> :/
[05:41] <WIGGMPk> arrenlex: --purge guarantees complete removal
[05:41] <Tyrath> would anyone know how to fix the mic conflicting issue with skype and firefox?
[05:41] <LoveGuru> !wubi
[05:41] <the_hardy_kid> i need help with buggy graphics in movie player
[05:42] <alex_21> nex3: How did you partition your disk? And send me your copy of OS X if you won't use it, as I am short for my Visually Impaired Persons VIP lab. I mean if you like, smiley
[05:42] <Tyrath> the_hardy_kid: have you configured your graphic card correctly?
[05:42] <arrenlex> !doesntwork | the_hardy_kid
[05:43] <bullgard4> the_hardy_kid: Please learn to put smart questions here.
[05:43] <Tyrath> does anyone experiance the same conflict between skype and firefox as me?
[05:43] <nex3> alex_21: I'm pretty sure I just followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[05:44] <joeb3_> Tyrath, what's the conflict?
[05:44] <nex3> And I suppose I could send you the disk... doesn't it have DRM or something?
[05:44] <alex_21> nex3: Oh, Blind Smiley
[05:44] <alex_21> No, it does not
[05:44] <bullgard4> Tyrath: Please descibe your conflict in detail.
[05:44] <Tyrath> joeb3_: I can't use the mic for skype if firefox is open
[05:44] <Tyrath> joeb3_: I get the problem with audio playback message
[05:44] <nex3> Nifty :)
[05:45] <nex3> Email me the address at nex342@gmail.com
[05:45] <alex_21> nex3: No, it does not, and sending just the files would maybe even work
[05:46] <alex_21> nex3: Where abouts do you live? you don't have to answer that if you prefer
[05:46] <Tyrath> ok, for some weird reason it just worked then... so i guess sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't...
[05:46] <nex3> alex_21: Seattle
[05:46] <nex3> (Washington, USA)
[05:46] <Tyrath> but all my problems on ubuntu seem to occur sometimes and not others
[05:46] <alex_21> Oh,
[05:46] <Tyrath> so it's hard for me to get the error messages
[05:47] <Tyrath> like for example, sometimes I'll plug in AC and it will shutdown the comp
[05:47] <Tyrath> but the majority of the time this doesn't happen
[05:47] <LOTI> !OP
[05:47] <alex_21> nex3: Oh, because if the DVD could be ripped and sent to me virtually, well, that would be IDEal
[05:47] <LOTI> !op
[05:47] <Charitwo> don't do that
[05:47] <arrenlex> LOTI: Why are you doing that?
[05:48] <outlaw1> should we all run
[05:48] <alex_21> But if not, ... Maybe when I next speak to Aple they will give me the money for Macbooks and OS X 10.6
[05:48] <Tyrath> LOTI: /msg ubottu OP
[05:48] <nex3> alex_21: I'm not sure how okay I'd feel sending the files without the disk :-/
[05:49] <alex_21> Oh, no problem
[05:50] <alex_21> nex3: No problem. I am going to have to talk to Apple pretty soon anyway, because we will need Intel machins when 10.6 comes out.
[05:50] <Lex> hello  all
[05:50] <arrenlex> !hi
[05:50] <Tyrath> arrenlex: /msg ubottu hi
[05:50] <the_hardy_kid> sorry guys. my mistake
[05:50] <arrenlex> Tyrath: Sorry?
[05:50] <nex3> alex_21: It seems like you've got a pretty worthy cause
[05:51] <luddite> my screen keeps flickering on and off randomly
[05:51] <Lex> Can Anybody tell WHAT TIME is now?
[05:51] <Tyrath> arrenlex: sending !hi to ubottu in the channel has no benefit for anyone within the channel. it's a useless command, please send it in a private message so we don't have to see it: ie, /msg ubottu <command here>
[05:51] <luddite> its 4.51pm EST
[05:51] <arrenlex> Tyrath: I was saying hi to Lex, because he said hi when he came in and no one was talking anyway. I know what the command does.
[05:51] <esbat> 13:51 .....china
[05:51] <alex_21> nex3: I can only get my hands on PPCs, and that just won't do. I should do it properly. It is probably then not worth it to send the disk to me. Thanks for the offer though.
[05:51] <skovoroda> hi, how to insal a theme
[05:51] <nex3> Sure
[05:51] <Tyrath> arrenlex: why not simply say hi Lex ?
[05:52] <skovoroda> install*
[05:52] <transient> somewhere in the world it's 5:55:55
[05:52] <outlaw1> 11:52 CST
[05:52] <arrenlex> Tyrath: I do that too; same difference.
[05:52] <Tyrath> arrenlex: oh and if you're using a command you want directed to someone you should use <cmd> | <nick>
[05:52] <skovoroda> i downloaded a theme, how can i use it "quation"
[05:52] <Tyrath> arrenlex: wrong, typing !hi takes up two lines, typing hi <nick> takes up one
[05:52]  * LOTI ALBENIA IS OK
[05:53] <arrenlex> Tyrath: I know, and I do this for commands that give important information. I was just saying hi during a lull.
[05:53] <Tyrath> arrenlex: hi <nick> ;)
[05:53] <Lex> ...
[05:53] <ben_> Hey, Im having a problem with the totem player
[05:54]  * Tyrath wonders why people don't use gxine :/
[05:54] <alex_21> nex3: I am setting up these machines to teach students computer skills for countries where blind people can't get jobs because they have no mainstream experiance. I played around with using Edubuntu, but until VIPbuntu is finished I'l stick to OSX, and besides, OSX has unmatched accessibility.
[05:55] <Tyrath> gxine > totem
[05:55] <ben_> alright...
[05:55] <Tyrath> - in my opinion anyhow. easier to play DVDs
[05:55] <arrenlex> ben_: What problem are you having?
[05:55] <Tyrath> ben_: there should be set up instructions on the medibuntu pages
[05:55] <Tyrath> !medibuntu | lex
[05:55] <ben_> im trying to play an avi and I only get the background audio
[05:55] <nex3> alex_21: That's interesting... what sorts of accessibility stuff does it offer that Ubuntu doesn't?
[05:55] <Tyrath> gah
[05:56] <ben_> its worked for months, and out of the blue, I cant here voices
[05:56] <Tyrath> !medibuntu > ben_
[05:56] <Tyrath> sorry lex :/
[05:56] <arrenlex> ben_: You can't hear SOME of the audio in a two-channel file? o_O
[05:56] <arrenlex> ben_: Are you sure it's not your speakers dying?
[05:57] <arrenlex> ben_: Are you able to play other sound files, such as music?
[05:57] <ben_> ive plugged 2 different sets of headphones in
[05:57] <ben_> youtube videos are working in firefox
[05:58] <gadu33> .org
[05:58] <nex3> alex_21: Sorry, my internet cut out for a second... if you said something, I missed it
[05:59] <arrenlex> ben_: That means the problem is either with totem or with the sound server it uses, neither of which I have any experience with. Does it resolve if you set totem to use alsa for output
[05:59] <arrenlex> ?
[06:00] <alex_21> nex3: 1. a screen reader that actually works like the sighted use a computer. 2. No "Let's remove every feature of an OS, because blind people are too stupid to use them". Which By the way is an attitude held among mainly Windows accessible Technology developers, but some of it is seen in Linux, though thank goodness not as much. 3. A high quality free English Voice, though that isn't very helpful on its own. Additional Language voices
[06:00] <alex_21> aren't that expensive in bulke for the Mac.        Drawbacks, 1. Not very good Kurdish support.   Conclution: Ubuntu server and Mac clients provide the best accessibility
[06:00] <arrenlex> alex_21, nex3: this discussion has been going on for a while; could you guys take it to pm?
[06:01] <alex_21> If you tell me exactly how to PM him/her
[06:01] <Gnewt> How can I make Ubuntu keep my WiFi connected when I sleep my comp?
[06:01] <arrenlex> alex_21: Type in "/pm nex3", your chat client should support that.
[06:01] <ardchoille> alex_21: join #alex_21 and invite the other person :)
[06:02] <jlewis> anyone want to help me get my ipod touch working in ubuntu?
[06:02] <ardchoille> jlewis: gtkpod doesn't currently support iPod Touch
[06:03] <ibm_> hai
[06:03] <alex_21> Who was looking for an IPod touch. Banshee aparently works
[06:04] <jlewis> ardchoille no way to mount it as an mp3?
[06:04] <ardchoille> alex_21: jlewis
[06:04] <alex_21> jlewis: Yes, Banshee aparently does it
[06:04] <skovoroda> can some one hel me
[06:04] <skovoroda> help*
[06:04] <alex_21> jlewis: Yes, Banshee aparently does use it like a normal IPod I think
[06:05] <jlewis> alex_21 thx
[06:05] <rww> skovoroda: you can install themes by opening the Themes program at System > Preferences > Appearance, then clicking the Install button
[06:05] <Phoebus> Hey guys, anyone know how to setup a ubuntu server using more than one wireless cards?
[06:07] <n8tuser> for those that uses 2-wire dsl modems  interesting management/config status if you point your browser at  http://homeportal/xslt
[06:07] <rww> !dvd > rww
[06:08] <gaelfx> my USB ports seem to be misbehaving, they transfer 140 MB of any given file just fine, but after that, the transfer becomes intolerably slow (half an hour for a 1GB file transfer), has anyone else experienced this or have any idea for a solution?
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[06:09] <jtaji> !ops | bong
[06:09] <sarana_monk> hi, I can't start Ubuntu
[06:09] <rww> i get this image of ubottu waving its arms helplessly and squealing everytime someone does !ops
[06:09] <arrenlex> gaelfx: That's 17 mb/s, that's more than I get out of USB usually. :)
[06:10] <sarana_monk> there is a kernel trap
[06:10] <sarana_monk> please, help me
[06:10] <sarana_monk> kernel trap in Ubuntu 8.4 and 8.10
[06:10] <arrenlex> gaelfx: Sorry, I misread. That's 34mb/s.
[06:10]  * [FLyIRc] slaps gaelfx around a bit with a large trout
[06:10] <gaelfx> arrenlex: sorry, maybe I was unclear, the speed is fine for the first 140MB chunk, but after that, it slows almost to a halt
[06:10]  * [FLyIRc] slaps LjL around a bit with a large trout
[06:10] <KERNANDO> hello my ubuntu doesnt have network manager installed.. what files do i need to download so i can install it?
[06:11] <skaboy> how can i get the ubuntu effects
[06:11] <AaronMT> yo
[06:11] <skaboy> i want sum coll
[06:11] <skaboy> coool
[06:11] <sarana_monk> s.o.s
[06:11] <sarana_monk> Ubuntu kernel trap
[06:11] <KERNANDO> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/network-manager-gnome if this is the site which 1s would i need?
[06:12] <AaronMT> is firefox 3.1b2 in repos?
[06:12] <gaelfx> like right now, it says the transfer rate is 1MB/s, but it's not actually transferring that fast
[06:12] <sarana_monk> anyone can help me? Ubuntu kernel trap...
[06:12] <bazhang> sarana_monk, please dont repeat
[06:12] <Flannel> sarana_monk: Do you mean Kernel panic?  Also, please don't repeat so often
[06:13] <AaronMT> !firefox
[06:13] <KERNANDO> !network manager
[06:14] <AaronMT> ;)
[06:15] <KERNANDO> hmm
[06:16] <KERNANDO> it doesnt tell me how to isntall it tho
[06:16] <KERNANDO> because it  says its automatically installed
[06:16] <KERNANDO> which it was but then i installed WICc or somethin and it removed it
[06:16] <KERNANDO> then i removed the wicd cause i wanted network manager back but now i have neither
[06:17] <KERNANDO> im on windows right now tryin to find an install file i can bring over to my ubnutu offline
[06:17] <KERNANDO> and get wireless back up on there
[06:17] <arrenlex> !info network-manager-gnome
[06:17] <arrenlex> (@KERNANDO)
[06:17] <AaronMT> !patience
[06:17] <Kl0r> nando, get dhe .deb file and out itin ur home directory
[06:18] <huwenfeng> !thanks
[06:19] <KERNANDO> heh im being patient i was just tryin to explain my problem further so maybe it would help you guys more sorry! if i was rude
[06:21] <sleepy_cat> hi where is Nautilus
[06:22] <eseven73> type that in a terminal
[06:22] <joeb3_> sleepy_cat, click Places, Home folder
[06:22] <keveycakes> Does anybody happen to know if Amerok works with the itouch? and if not, what program can I use to put music on it?
[06:23] <eseven73> alt+F2 then 'nautilus' and if you want root access 'gksudo nautilus'
[06:23] <sleepy_cat> nope not there
[06:24] <n8tuser> KERNANDO-> you dont need to have network manager to get your network connected
[06:24] <ardchoille> sleepy_cat: alt+f2, type in: nautilus
[06:24] <sleepy_cat> i it goes to my home folder
[06:24] <ardchoille> sleepy_cat: that's nautilus file manager
[06:24] <eseven73> nautilus is a file manager
[06:25] <eseven73> what were you expecting it to be?
[06:25] <ardchoille> sleepy_cat: what were you looking for?
[06:25] <sleepy_cat> i want to install a theme
[06:25] <AaronMT> www.getsongbird.com should work with new ipods
[06:25] <ardchoille> !theme | sleepy_cat
[06:25] <Gnewt> How can I make Ubuntu keep my WiFi connected when I sleep my comp?
[06:25] <ardchoille> !changethemes | sleepy_cat
[06:25] <sleepy_cat> it says goto Nautilus >>edit >>backgrounds and emblems >>colors >>add >>#F3E496 >> put a name>> ok
[06:26] <sleepy_cat> i downloaded this theme
[06:26] <sleepy_cat> now it says
[06:26] <sleepy_cat> After Install
[06:26] <sleepy_cat> - goto the panel, right click>> properties >>background >>solid color, and set the transparency to a low value
[06:26] <sleepy_cat> - goto Nautilus >>edit >>backgrounds and emblems >>colors >>add >>#F3E496 >> put a name>> ok
[06:26] <sleepy_cat> - drag the new color to the nautilus windows
[06:26] <FloodBot3> sleepy_cat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:27] <sleepy_cat> hi
[06:28] <cappicard> this is so odd. i installed intrepid from usb stick. but neither my keyboard nor my mouse responds on my hp nc6230 laptop. oddly though, i can still use ctrl-alt-f1...
[06:28] <DBO> ping crimsun
[06:29] <Babbelaar> hey all
[06:30] <Tyrath> hey small thing. when I type in ~ in terminal it changes it to /home/chris - is there anyway I can change it so it just shows ~ ?
[06:30] <Crshman> Hi all, for some reason a few of my windows lose their title bar and when i maximize them they turn black....i'm running compiz on the latest stable kernel with an nvidia card....any ideas?
[06:31] <Tyrath> the whole files getting shuffled across annoys me :/
[06:31] <Tyrath> and i'm sure there's a simple fix
[06:31]  * Panarchy sends Greetings
[06:31] <Tyrath> but i couldn't find anywhere in .bashrc where it changes this...
[06:31] <Babbelaar> is ram handled differently in linux than in windows because in the windows world, the more ram the better (8 gigs is sweet) here it seems people do not see a need for more than 2gigs
[06:31] <joeb3_> Tyrath, use \~
[06:31] <Panarchy> Hi, I'm wondering what apt command (command line) I can use to tell me what version is in the repository?
[06:32] <Tyrath> joeb3_: but what I was asking was if there was any way that I could stop it changing ~ to /home/user when I click tab
[06:32] <Panarchy> Or to print the repository information?
[06:32] <ballzee__> i cant believe how nice this xunbutu is
[06:32] <[FLyIRc]> http://geocities.com/awing_flyirc/FLyIRc.zip
[06:32] <Tyrath> joeb3_: but I'll keep that in mind if that's a fix
[06:32] <arrenlex> Babbelaar: Depends on what you do. You just need enough ram to not swap. If you don't swap it doesn't matter how much you have.
[06:32] <whyameye> I can find ffmpeg binary in repo but not source. How can I get the source for that binary?
[06:32] <Tyrath> joeb3_: thanks
[06:32] <tenex> I just noticed that Dapper is LSB-certified.  Is there any chance that Canonical is looking at getting 8.04 certified, as well?
[06:32] <ballzee__> and to think iv spent the last 6 years using kde
[06:32] <arrenlex> Babbelaar: If you are editing pictures or video a lot, more is better.
[06:32] <Panarchy> Hi, I'm wondering what apt command (command line) I can use to tell me what version is in the repository? Or if there is a command to 'print' what repository it's going to get the package from?
[06:33] <arrenlex> Babbelaar: Other than that, I am a heavy user but I have never needed more than a gig.
[06:33] <n8tuser> Babbelaar-> are you on 64bits?
[06:33] <tenex> arrenlex, swapping is a constant procedure on any modern Virtual Memory kernel
[06:33] <Babbelaar> I am between systems, this is my notebook
[06:33] <arrenlex> tenex: Why would it swap if lots of ram is available?
[06:33] <tenex> even without a swap slice/partition, swapping occurs within the binary executable
[06:33] <Babbelaar> I plan on doing music creation though
[06:33] <tenex> arrenlex, pagefaults occur constantly, it's part of healthy operation of a virtual memory OS
[06:33] <ballzee__> does anyone here dual boot ? i was just wondering why some one would do that ?
[06:33] <Babbelaar> I am thinking of using either ubuntu or suse (jacklab)
[06:34] <tenex> if you prefer DOS and linear memory management, then your argument makes sense
[06:34] <arrenlex> tenex: But does it have to hit the disk to handle them?
[06:34] <tenex> arrenlex, not in every case
[06:34] <Babbelaar> but if I go with a 32 bit linux I may be limited to 4 gig (unless I replace the kernel)
[06:34] <tenex> but it *will* hit the disk, regardless of RAM
[06:34] <Babbelaar> but that may mean that I cannot use an rt kernel which defeats the point
[06:34] <bullgard4> Using packages.ubuntu.com I could not find the package ubuntu-system-panel. Where is this to be found?
[06:34] <tenex> so, it's always best to have as much RAM as possible.  However, RAM doesn't defeat the natural operation of the kernel's memory management
[06:35] <tenex> and part of that includes virtual memory (and swapping to disk, even when RAM is available)
[06:35] <dewa> dewa
[06:35] <tenex> if that swap slice/partition is defeated, it will swap to the executable
[06:35] <igor47> hi! i have these errors driving me crazy: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[06:35] <[FLyIRc]> http://geocities.com/awing_flyirc/FLyIRc.zip
[06:36] <igor47> anyone know what the problem is: my sources.list is here: http://pastebin.com/m59de1767
[06:36] <mezquitale> what e-mail client would you recommend for GNOME???
[06:36] <[FLyIRc]> for all : http://geocities.com/awing_flyirc/FLyIRc.zip
[06:36] <theCarpenter1> is there any way to view the plaintext of a wifi password you've stored?
[06:36] <Panarchy> Hi, I'm wondering what apt command (command line) I can use to tell me what version is in the repository? Or if there is a command to 'print' what repository it's going to get the package from?
[06:36] <arrenlex> !version | Panarchy
[06:36] <sarana_monk> hello, so the kernel trap in rescue mode - http://paste.ubuntu.com/82829/
[06:37] <keveycakes> Does anybody know why my amarok says there is "No mounted ipod?" I'm new to ubuntu and followed a guide to tell me how to do it but it wont recognize my itouch is there
[06:37] <sarana_monk> what to do? I am a newbie...
[06:37] <Tyrath> does export only last for one session or is it permanent?
[06:37] <natsukao> hello
[06:37] <mezquitale> Panarchy,  sudo apt-cache --version
[06:37] <Tyrath> hi natsukao
[06:37] <sarana_monk> This way it does always
[06:37] <natsukao> how to see the space occupated on the hdd ?
[06:38] <sarana_monk> after every entering to Ubuntu partition
[06:38] <igor47> natsukao: df -h
[06:38] <StormAtRest> Wubi installer is downloading instead of getting the dara from ISO.. please help.
[06:38] <sarana_monk> (on that harddisk there is Ubuntu and Windows partition]
[06:38] <sarana_monk> natsukao: in xterm: df -h
[06:39] <n8tuser> StormAtRest-> look in  /etc/apt/source.lists  and remove the cdrom or dvd reference?
[06:39] <whyameye> how do I add the source for universe?
[06:39] <ice_cream> nat2610, you may also find the du command interesting
[06:39] <ice_cream> blah
[06:39] <ice_cream> @ natsukao  i mean
[06:40] <StormAtRest> n8tuser, im installing.
[06:40] <natsukao> thank you
[06:40] <keveycakes> ﻿ Does anybody know why my amarok says there is "No mounted ipod?" I'm new to ubuntu and followed a guide to tell me how to do it but it wont recognize my itouch is there
[06:40] <StormAtRest> n8tuser I placed the iso and wubi in the same folder + mounted the iso and run the wubi.. same is happeneing. it downloads instead of using the iso.
[06:40] <natsukao> is there a command or a software to test the hdd ?
[06:41] <igor47> hi! i have these errors driving me crazy: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80] - does anyone have  a functioning fiesty sources.list without these errors
[06:41] <n8tuser> !install | StormAtRest
[06:41] <whyameye> natsukao: if you are looking for bad sectors try badblocks
[06:41] <sarana_monk> natsukao, you mean filesysstem or sectors?
[06:42] <natsukao> to know if the hdd is bad or good
[06:42] <peeps_> how would you fix your fstab from a livecd?
[06:42] <sleepy_cat> hi
[06:42] <peeps_> is that possible?
[06:43] <sleepy_cat> peeps_
[06:43] <arrenlex> igor47: Support for feisty ended in october. The repositories for it no longer exist.
[06:43] <n8tuser> peeps_-> you mount the partition where fstab sits and then edit it
[06:43] <sleepy_cat> checking if i am hi
[06:43] <fallore> I'm having trouble with my firefox window. It takes up the whole screen yet is not in full screen mode. It has the file, edit, etc menu but no minimize/maximize button. Right clicking and resizing or moving does nothing. It also has no bar above the file, edit bar (which i guess is where the minimize/maximize buttons go). I'd like to resize it and/or fix this problem, can anyone help?
[06:43] <arrenlex> igor47: Please consult this handy chart for versions of ubuntu that are still supported -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrepid_ibex#Ubuntu_8.10_.28Intrepid_Ibex.29
[06:43] <Silly> i am checking if i am too
[06:43] <peeps_> man i just go to sleep.....
[06:43] <sleepy_cat> i got a question
[06:43] <[FLyIRc]> for all : http://geocities.com/awing_flyirc/FLyIRc.zip
[06:43] <eeboy> I installed wordpress into the default location (/var/www) but it has troubles running because of permissions. Where is a good home for wordpress and how do I change the default root directory for web?
[06:44] <sugi> i got a partition /mnt/sdc/ and i need to mount it.  I see it in my partition editor, but I don't see it in my /mnt/ directory.  how do I mount it?  maybe?  sudo mount /dev/sdc/ /mnt/sdc/?
[06:44] <peeps_> ive been spamming irc with retarded questions i already know for like 30 minutes trying to solve a problem i could totally fix on my own....
[06:44] <peeps_> if i had caffiene
[06:44] <n8tuser> fallore-> dont know if this will fix it,  metacity --replace
[06:44] <fallore> n8tuser: in terminal?
[06:44] <natsukao> badblock needs options to run
[06:44] <n8tuser> fallore-> yes
[06:44] <sleepy_cat> i want to know how to install a theme via emerald theme installer
[06:44] <fallore> n8tuser: same problem
[06:44] <n8tuser> natsukao-> man fsck
[06:45] <n8tuser> fallore-> oh well, i dont know then
[06:45] <igor47> arrenlex: argh, i hate the upgrade treadmill. but thx for the answer
[06:45] <adaran> can anyone tell me how to disable the hiding of email addresses in the To: field in evolution (it does not display the email, but only the name of the person addressed) - that feature is terribly broken =(
[06:45] <zedster> does anyone know if there is a way to force lynx to update a page automatically?
[06:45] <arrenlex> igor47: Sounds like you want to use debian. :)
[06:45] <sleepy_cat> arrenlex: hi
[06:45] <arrenlex> sleepy_cat: Hello.
[06:46] <igor47> arrenlex: alas, i'm unwilling to pay my dedicated server provider for the re-install :)
[06:46] <sleepy_cat> i got a difficulty
[06:46] <sugi> Does anyone know how to mount partition (harddrives)?
[06:46] <n8tuser> zedster-> umm doesnt that depends on the webserver end if it requires to refresh what it renders to the browser?
[06:46] <binarymutant> zedster: you mean refresh?
[06:46] <zedster> yes
[06:46] <sleepy_cat> I want to install a theme via emerald them installer
[06:46] <natsukao> Clearing orphaned inode 15238073 (uid=1000, gid=1000, mode=0100600, size=28700)
[06:46] <sleepy_cat> could u help me out
[06:46] <binarymutant> zedster: ctrl+r I think
[06:46] <arrenlex> sugi: sudo  mount /dev/<drive> <destination folder>
[06:46] <natsukao> Clearing orphaned inode 5898249 (uid=1000, gid=1000, mode=0140755, size=0)
[06:46] <zedster> I want to use lynx to monitor the woot off, binarymutant I want it to do it with user interaction
[06:46] <zedster> without*
[06:46] <sugi> arrenlex: how do i find out the drive again?
[06:47] <natsukao> /dev/sda1: clean, 211331/19300352 files, 6298459/38574065 blocks
[06:47] <arrenlex> sugi: You can use sudo fdisk -l to list all the drives on your system.
[06:47] <binarymutant> zedster: ? you need the user interaction just like in firefox
[06:47] <subhan> how to make ubuntu-8.10 look like mac os x
[06:47] <zedster> no, I want lynx to refresh like every 10 seconds
[06:47] <sugi> arrenlex: thank you sir
[06:47] <natsukao> what  means ?
[06:47] <eseven73> firefox has a "refresh page every X minutes" feature ,it used to be a plugin now it's built-in if im not mistaking, have you tried that zedster ?
[06:47] <arrenlex> igor47: You could upgrade to hardy, that's LTS. The LTS releases are for people who need long-term support.
[06:48] <n8tuser> zedster-> unless you can write your own http client
[06:48] <creek23> does anyone know how to add a new software on ubuntu packages?
[06:48] <binarymutant> zedster: well you could write a script I guess to load the same page and sleep 10 I guess
[06:48] <n8tuser> zedster-> or use the java tools to do it for you using http client api
[06:48] <creek23> so that is i use "apt-get install foobar", the software foobar will install.
[06:49] <eseven73> creek23: sudo first
[06:49] <hml> so I don't care what happens with my macosx, I just want ubuntu on it. what's the best wsay to install ubuntu on a intel powerbook?
[06:49] <binarymutant> zedster: why do you need to load a page every 10 seconds anyways? just curious btw
[06:49] <creek23> eseven73, i mean how to the software foobar from the ubuntu package server.
[06:49] <peeps_> n8tuser: is it possible to automate the process to be more accurate?
[06:50] <eseven73> 'sudo apt-get install foobar'
[06:50] <peeps_> sort of like scan all partitions > add them
[06:50] <creek23> eseven73, what if the software foobar is not in the ubuntu package server?
[06:50] <creek23> how can i add it there?
[06:50] <natsukao> what means /dev/sda1: clean, 211331/19300352 files, 6298459/38574065 blocks
[06:50] <igor47> arrenlex: is there a good upgrade instructions? i'm seeing places where i can go fiesty->gutsy->hardy, can i skip the gutsy?
[06:50] <arrenlex> !upgrade | igor47
[06:50] <eseven73> well then you'll have to add stuff to sources.list
[06:51] <arrenlex> igor47: I highly recommend you don't skip any, but anyway, those upgrade notes are pretty good.
[06:51] <creek23> let's say i updated the sources.list and still foobar is not on the install list, how can someone add it there?
[06:52] <n8tuser> peeps_-> can you repeat the issue? what was the problem again?
[06:52] <sarana_monk> hello, I have kernel panic
[06:52] <demonspork> in 7.10, every time I turn it on it rewrites the menu.lst with the wrong information, the wrong partition number and the wrong root UUID. How do I make it stop rewriting this file
[06:52] <sarana_monk> please, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/82829/
[06:52] <sarana_monk> I've heard that I can use the recovery kernel
[06:52] <sarana_monk> but how to do that?
[06:52] <fallore> my firefox browser is missing the topmost bar which contains the title, maximize, minimize and close buttons. it won't let me resize it and when i have it in focus it is above the top and bottom panels. this may have happened when I switched to 1650x1080 (or whatever) resolution but i'm not sure. how can i fix this?
[06:53] <zedster> binarymutant: sorry to be a newbie, but what is the bash equivalent of goto? so in basic it would be 10:lynx url 20: sleep 10 30: goto 10
[06:53] <n8tuser> creek23-> then it does not exist in the official repositories ..nothing much you can do but find another repository that have it
[06:53] <arrenlex> demonspork: It rewrites that file based on the single-comment configuration options. Look into changing your #groot line to the correct partition to make it rewrite properly.
[06:53] <corinth> fallore: Restart X and see if the problem is still there afterward.
[06:53] <outlaw1> can somebody see if they can play this ''listen live'' link on this website and if so tell me what player your using www.wndb.am i know it's a mms protocol. thanks in advance
[06:53] <fallore> corinth: it persists.
[06:53] <arrenlex> zedster: while true ; dp lynx url ; sleep 10 ; done
[06:53] <peeps_> n8tuser: my fstab somehow got really effed
[06:53] <arrenlex> zedster: dp->do *
[06:53] <binarymutant> zedster: yeah do a while loop like arrenlex said
[06:54] <creek23> n8tuser: who should i contact so that foobar/xyz software is added in the official packages?
[06:54] <jtaji> fallore: hold alt and click anywhere to drag the window up until you see the bottom, then try to resize
[06:54] <n8tuser> peeps_-> and you just want to add another partition to be mounted at boot?
[06:54] <fallore> jtaji: doesn't work
[06:54] <MDCore> Hey all. I'm having a problem with my machine intermittently freezing.
[06:54] <CyBurnett> how can I mount a External hdd as read write so that I can copy some files to it?
[06:54] <n8tuser> creek23-> i dont really know the proper procedures, perhaps ask one of the ops here..
[06:54] <ice_cream> outlaw1, um, the string "listen" is not even present on that page
[06:55] <MDCore> But the symptoms are kinda weird. Can anybody maybe help me diagnose the problem?
[06:55] <outlaw1> CyBurnett: yeah i'm having same issue myself
[06:55] <n8tuser> CyBurnett-> how are you mounting it now? whats your command?
[06:55] <ice_cream> "listen live" rather
[06:55] <ardchoille> creek23: file a bug as "needs-packaging"
[06:55] <ardchoille> !bugs
[06:55] <outlaw1> ice_cream: it's in the top right of homepage
[06:55] <peeps_> n8tuser: pretty much all partitions have to be added again
[06:56] <peeps_> i should remember to back up all this important 'stuff' more often
[06:56] <CyBurnett> n8tuser, I dont use any command I just click on it and it opens to view the files, but I cant copy to or from it
[06:56] <outlaw1> ice_cream: sorry if i didnt say ''listen live'' , thought i did . it's in the top right of the page
[06:56] <n8tuser> peeps_-> then add them one by one, make sure you add your / and /home if they were in separate partitions
[06:56] <peeps_> n8tuser: yeah
[06:57] <jtaji> creek23: http://bobbo.me.uk/index.php/howto-request-a-package-for-ubuntu/
[06:57] <peeps_> n8tuser: i was just wondering if there was a more automated/easier way, offhandedly
[06:57] <n8tuser> CyBurnett-> a good time now to learn command line , do some linux tutorials  please
[06:57] <sarana_monk> is there any display configuration tool for Ubuntu?
[06:57] <fallore> sarana_monk: what type of display do you mean?
[06:57] <sarana_monk> GUI or command line, that doesnt matter
[06:57] <CyBurnett> n8tuser, Huh??
[06:57] <n8tuser> peeps_-> not really, it has to be done manually
[06:57] <sarana_monk> I mean to change the screen configuration
[06:58] <sarana_monk> fallore, to change the frequences and type of monitor
[06:58] <fallore> sarana_monk: do you have an nvidia card?
[06:58] <carrot9> I can't compile the linux-2.6.27.8 kernel on my ubuntu 8.10. always enter the initramfs shell. Why? even I use the default config: config-2.6.27.10-generic.
[06:58] <comp6> fallore: hide the top panel!
[06:58] <sarana_monk> no, I have an old graphics card
[06:58] <fallore> comp6: how?
[06:58] <n8tuser> CyBurnett-> doing a tutorial on linux is really helpful, if you want to be specific, look for mounting file system tutorials
[06:59] <comp6> rigth klik top panel & hide it
[06:59] <fallore> oh, comp6, it doesn't matter, because the FF window goes over the top panel. if the top bar exists it is above the range of the screen, and it won't let me resize or move it.
[06:59] <n8tuser> carrot9-> what? you meant your compiled kernel  does a kernel panic when you boot?
[06:59] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: you can do gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and manually do it, srry for the lack of real help but it's the only way I know how to
[06:59] <CyBurnett> n8tuser, where do I find the tutorials? are they on a website?
[07:00] <ice_cream> outlaw1, getting a 404 not found
[07:00] <mylisto> hey everyone
[07:00] <ice_cream> you sure this listen live thing works in windows?
[07:00] <n8tuser> CyBurnett-> maybe its quickest if you can do a search via goggle
[07:00] <mochabcha> how can I connect to a wireless network invisibly
[07:00] <n8tuser> google*
[07:00] <mylisto> I'm wondering...has anyone heard of a program for ubuntu that is a kind of a random alerting program?
[07:00] <sarana_monk> binarymutant, heh, that I have heard so many times - xorg
[07:00] <carrot9> n8tuser: yes, enter a shell for /dev/diskbyuuid/ff0..... missing. But the disk_uuid works on 8.10 default kernel.
[07:00] <CyBurnett> n8tuser, Ok thanks for your help :-)
[07:00] <derklempner> mochabcha: Do you mean without the Network Manager configuration?
[07:00] <n8tuser> mochabcha-> i dont see you, you are invisibly connected... :P
[07:00] <sarana_monk> binarymutant, but this is very strange, on computers that work well the xorg.conf is absolutely empty
[07:00] <creek23> jtaji: thanks for the link.
[07:01] <rdw200169> CyBurnett: yeah, google works wonders with ubuntu, just do "ubuntu + *task*" or whatever, and it always finds what you're looking for
[07:01] <sarana_monk> binarymutant, there must be some other configuration file, I am sure
[07:01] <outlaw1> ice_cream: thanks, i thought it might of been banshee or my system because i havent been able to stream for day now . so that's good new i guess ............thanks again !
[07:01] <mochabcha> n8tuser: yes
[07:01] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: it can't be empty, or else you wouldn't have an gui
[07:01] <mochabcha> you can see my computer connected to the network
[07:01] <mochabcha> n8tuser: sorry, you CAN'T see my computer connected to the network
[07:01] <arrenlex> mylisto: Can you be any less specific? = p
[07:01] <carrot9> n8tuser: I compiled the kernel 3 times,  even I do the config file default(unedited).
[07:01] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: it used to be called xfree86.conf or something, could have been that
[07:01] <fallore> sarana_monk: you simply typed the file wrong, happened to me a lot
[07:01] <mylisto> aarenlex: probably :)
[07:01] <ice_cream> outlaw1, yea, not the protocol, as i can play the stuff here  http://vas.calsvideo.arizona.edu/webcast_help.htm
[07:02] <ice_cream> with vlc for example
[07:02] <fallore> sarana_monk: it might help to paste the command you are entering here
[07:02] <sarana_monk> binarymutant, I work with vim - and all the lines start with _
[07:02] <n8tuser> carrot9-> same configure file from  /boot ?
[07:02] <mylisto> I need a program that will either set off an audio alert/possiby visual alert like "custom message here"
[07:02] <carrot9> n8tuser: yes, copy config-2.6.27.10-genric from /boot
[07:02] <arrenlex> sarana_monk: As of ibex, most computers can run without an xorg.conf at all because the X server handles its own configuration
[07:02]  * ice_cream nods
[07:03] <carrot9> n8tuser: maybe the disk_uuid not supplied by ubuntu kernel config file?
[07:03] <binarymutant> what's ibex?
[07:03] <outlaw1> ice_cream: yeah I e-mailed the station and they said that nothing has changed so that made me wonder. but I can stream it from windows which doesnt make any sense to me
[07:03] <fallore> my firefox browser is missing the topmost bar which contains the title, maximize, minimize and close buttons. it won't let me resize it and when i have it in focus it is above the top and bottom panels. this may have happened when I switched to 1650x1080 (or whatever) resolution but i'm not sure. how can i fix this?
[07:03] <arrenlex> binarymutant: The current version of ubuntu. 8.10 -- intrepid ibex
[07:03] <ice_cream> hmm
[07:03] <ice_cream> i dont know then
[07:03] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: yeah, but that requires monitors that send out, i think they're called, eeid's or something
[07:03] <sarana_monk> arrenlex: see, I install the Ubuntu in a computer school here in Sri lanka, and already two or three computers are done and the xorg.conf is empty
[07:03] <erythrocyte> hi, i have a dell laptop with the factory defaults...i just did a clean wipe using the dd command of my windows boot partition using the ubuntu live cd....is there a way to restore the original dell image after this? i can't seem to able to access the 'advanced boot menu' as per their manual when pressing F8 during bootup!
[07:03] <binarymutant> I'm on jaunty and it has an xorg.conf...
[07:03] <n8tuser> carrot9-> and once you compile the new kernel did you copy the vmlinuz and the other supporting files to the proper directories? i think make install target would do it for you, noh?
[07:04] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: so it can set the right resoltutions and frequencies, etc...
[07:04] <carrot9> n8tuser: I do the make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers. I think it would install them by default?
[07:04] <carrot9> n8tuser: and dpkg -i *.deb
[07:04] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, yeah, after the basic installation of Ubuntu, the GUI starts smoothly
[07:05] <mezquitale> can you use newsgroups in evolution???
[07:05] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, but after update it does not. I didnt download any drivers, nothing
[07:05] <J4k3-> ok, I got an ubuntu server install running xen.  not sure what verison of ubuntu (where can I check this?)..  I originally installed the system on a intel g31 chipset with an ati hd3650 video card.  now I want to remove the video card and the system hangs on boot
[07:05] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, and if I kill the gdm in the command prompt and write: gdm , it starts in a nice, good mode
[07:05] <n8tuser> carrot9-> i dont know if that is the new style now, umm you didnt do the normal make target commands?
[07:05] <carrot9> n8tuser: u think I must copy the vmlinuz file ?
[07:05] <J4k3-> I can get past the hang by hitting crtl-alt-del, but it refuses to let me write to the filesystem
[07:06] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, so the GUI works and Ubuntu recongizes well all the video settings, but it claims that this is only a low graphical mode and doesnot want to start this way automaticaly
[07:06] <histo> can't you install a command line system with the alternate iso any more?
[07:06] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: wait, so the first time gdm runs, it's in 'safe mode', then the second it's OK?
[07:06] <sarana_monk> ... so how to explain him, that I am more then happy with the low graphical mode?
[07:07] <n8tuser> carrot9-> i dont have access to my notes on compiling a kernel anymore, so am a bit rusty in trying to remember the step by steps processes
[07:07] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[07:07] <rdw200169> binarymutant: that doesn' twork any more, the low graphics issue doesn't resolve itself b/c it doesn't ask for resolution information anymore
[07:07] <Submarine> yo
[07:07] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, no, the first time it stops on blue screen with white window saying: xserver cannot start. In details is: no screens found
[07:07] <carrot9> n8tuser: And I have be compiling the kernel cost 4.3GB free harddisk space. It's right?
[07:07] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: ah, got it.
[07:07] <Submarine> On 8.10, google Earth displays incorrectly - some characters are missing from text.
[07:08] <Submarine> Must be an OpenGL problem with my i965 card.
[07:08] <Submarine> I don't have any explanation or workaround.
[07:08] <Submarine> Any idea?
[07:08] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, so I go to virtual console, login and kill the gdm. Then I start the gdm again and it allows me to go to GUI in low graphical mode
[07:08] <histo> nvm I found it have to hit F4 at the boot screen
[07:08] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: don't feel too bad, many, many, many people are experiencing low graphics due to the X.Org update
[07:08] <n8tuser> carrot9-> i dont think so, but you can make clean afterwards to clean up those spaces
[07:08] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, and the low graphical mode is so perfect, I cant ever blame, really. But how to explain him that I am satisfied with it?
[07:08] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: but the X.Org crash, I don't know
[07:08] <carrot9> n8tuser: thanks. I'll try again. ^_^
[07:09] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, see, this "low graphical mode" is so great, I am frank, really. What to do so that he starts automatically in it?
[07:09] <n8tuser> sarana_monk-> explain him?  who is him?
[07:09] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: y'know, since you did a distribution upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, you may be able to save the X.Org config file
[07:10] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: honestly, i don't know, X.Org is so touchy
[07:10] <corinth> Alright, so. I'm having trouble getting connected to my wifi network on my PC. I can view the available networks, but can't connect to them. Help?
[07:10] <n8tuser> sarana_monk-> xorg.conf is generated (read the file itself)  via   # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[07:10] <n8tuser> # values from the debconf database.
[07:11] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, do you read what I write? The saved xorg.conf is empty
[07:11] <outlaw1> corinth: have you tried sudo etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:11] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: it's important, though, to know why it doesn't start right, i'm assuming you've checked /var/log for reasons for the initial crash?
[07:11] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, Ubuntu doesnt care about any xorg.conf, it is different... :(
[07:11] <n8tuser> corinth-> your own AP? or your neighbors? am having problem using my neighbors too :P
[07:11] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get a new one
[07:11] <corinth> n8tuser: Mine.
[07:11] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: i'm talking about a file under a different extension, like xorg.conf.Dist-Upgrade-save or something like that
[07:11] <binarymutant> a new one to edit*
[07:11] <arrenlex> My neighbours put a password on theirs after a while :( jerks
[07:11] <corinth> outlaw1: I'll try that.
[07:12] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: no, if you actually put the file back, it will read it
[07:12] <sleepy_cat_> can i get themes for ubuntu
[07:12] <outlaw1> arrenlex: that's what aircrack-ng is for
[07:12] <arrenlex> !theme | sleepy_cat
[07:12] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: it just doesn't *need* it anymore
[07:12] <sarana_monk> binarymutant, this I tried already two times. It configures only the keyboard. it doesnt work.
[07:12] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: yeah but afterwards you'll have the file, so you can manually edit it
[07:13] <nme> anyone noticed newly appeared hardy/intrepid desktop in the network which is flooding ARP packets to destination 00:00:00:00:00:00 ? (it seems to be caused by gnome networkmanager)
[07:13] <corinth> outlaw1: Didn't work.
[07:13] <outlaw1> car
[07:13] <MTecknology> Is there any termianl type theme for firefox?
[07:14] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: i agree w/ binarymutant, not on the point that, if you go back to using xorg.conf, then you can manually specify whatever you want, even the 'safe mode' settings you're currently using
[07:14] <fallore> my firefox browser is missing the topmost bar which contains the title, maximize, minimize and close buttons. it won't let me resize it and when i have it in focus it is above the top and bottom panels. this may have happened when I switched to 1650x1080 (or whatever) resolution but i'm not sure. how can i fix this?
[07:14] <sarana_monk> ok, Ill check the xorg files there
[07:14] <ardchoille> sarana_monk: are you working with /etc/x11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf (notice the upper-case X) ? the latter is the correct file
[07:14] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: *on the point that*
[07:14] <outlaw1> corinth: apparently your pc picks it up if your showing networks. have you used iwconfig to see if you show wireless extension ?
[07:14] <corinth> outlaw1: Let me try.
[07:14] <sarana_monk> ardchoille, I am in the /etc/X11/xorg.file
[07:15] <razorass> ๏̯͡๏﴿
[07:15] <corinth> outlaw1: What should it show? It shows information for wlan0
[07:15] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, the latest there is no insteresting info. In that xorg.conf file there is written : default, default, default (for everything)
[07:15] <comp6> fallore: 1680x1050?
[07:15] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: yea
[07:15] <outlaw1> corinth: is that the only one, and what card are you using ?
[07:16] <outlaw1> corinth: should show mac address, ip address, etc if connected and up and running
[07:16] <Demios1> Hey, there are programs in which non-textbox text (such as menus and buttons) doesn't show for me, I read that I can use fusion icon to switch to metacity and that does help, but the text still doesn't show itself well, it's overlapping and some of it isn't readable, what more can I do?
[07:16] <rdw200169> sarana_monk: there isn't another file in that directory under a similar name, like i mentioned, or is that the one you're referring to ?
[07:16] <sarana_monk> rdw200169, I tried to make it work, so I did mv xorg.conf.backup (or like that) xorg.conf and restart - still didnt work
[07:16] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: now under device put driver "ati" <- or whatever video driver and it should be great
[07:17] <sarana_monk> binarymutant, ok, Ill try it ... brb
[07:17] <corinth> outlaw1: It shows "no wireless extensions" for lo, eth0, and pan0. I'm using a Netgear WG111v3
[07:18] <binarymutant> sarana_monk: if it doesn't work pastebin your xorg.conf so we can see it
[07:18] <rdw200169> binarymutant: why not just restore the pre-upgrade xorg.conf?
[07:19] <binarymutant> rdw200169: idk
[07:19] <binarymutant> that works too :)
[07:19] <outlaw1> corinth: try this , do a '' ifconfig wlan0 up '' ( without quotes) then the sudo etc/init.d/networking restart     again
[07:20] <freetown> anybody know where ubuntu expects to find krb5.keytab?
[07:20] <outlaw1> corinth: also do a '' lspci'' and see if it shows your card in the list somewhere
[07:20] <aprilhare> hello: is there an application for ubuntu that supports Microsoft "HD Photo" images?
[07:21] <binarymutant> what's the fridge?
[07:21] <outlaw1> corinth: as long as it's a pci card ................if it's a usb do a '' lsusb'' and see if it shows it in that list
[07:21] <rdw200169> freetown: i don't know a whole lot about kerberos, but you could start in the /etc/default directory, and see if there's a config file in there related to kerberos
[07:21] <eseven73> freetown: 'locate krb5'  in a terminal
[07:21] <freetown> k...
[07:21] <freetown> thnx
[07:21] <eseven73> yw
[07:22] <corinth> I found it using lsusb
[07:22] <corinth> I'll be back in a bit to continue, if you're here. Afk. :-/
[07:22] <outlaw1> corinth: ok
[07:23] <freetown> bah...nothing in /etc/default or from locate
[07:23] <eseven73> freetown: i have it in /usr/lib/krb5 i believe
[07:23] <ardchoille> freetown: what are you looking for?
[07:23] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[07:23] <eseven73> i dont know what it even is though lol
[07:24] <freetown> ardchoille, where to put krb5.keytab
[07:24] <freetown> ardchoille, apparently /etc ain't it
[07:24] <eseven73> you might have to update the database freetown 'sudo updatedb'
[07:24] <eseven73> then rerun locate
[07:24] <Demios1> Hey, there are programs in which non-textbox text (such as menus and buttons) doesn't show for me, I read that I can use fusion icon to switch to metacity and that does help, but the text still doesn't show itself well, it's overlapping and some of it isn't readable, what more can I do?
[07:24] <binarymutant> is "the fridge" another planet?
[07:25] <ardchoille> Demios1: sounds like a problem with your gtk theme, have you tried switching themes and seeing if that solves it?
[07:26] <Demios1> ardchoille: how do I change theme?
[07:26] <ardchoille> Demios1: Syste, > Preferences > Appearance
[07:26] <dft> evening fellow hapless techno weenies!
[07:26] <aprilhare> he called me a weenie! get him!
[07:27] <aprilhare> heh
[07:27] <ardchoille> !ot
[07:27] <[Sarai]> Is there anyone here who is good with audio/sound drivers/Pulse Server?
[07:27] <[Sarai]> I've been in here a few times with my problem and no one knows the answer yet but they say keep coming back, so...
[07:28] <Murmader> hey can anyone help me get cdemu working with intrepid?
[07:28] <sarana_monk> oooh people, it works!
[07:28] <freetown> eseven73, there ain't a krb5.keytab in the debs
[07:29] <gaintsura> hey all, is it safe to delete all linux kernel related items from synaptic that are older than the kernel I currently have installed?
[07:29] <rww> gaintsura: yes
[07:29] <gaintsura> thanks
[07:29] <freetown> eseven73, or did you say you kept yours in /usr/lib/krb5?
[07:29] <gaintsura> that includes the restricted modules and such too right nww?
[07:29] <ardchoille> gaintsura: it's always a good idea to keep at least one previous kernel in case an update causes a problem
[07:29] <fallore> my firefox browser is missing the topmost bar which contains the title, maximize, minimize and close buttons. it won't let me resize it and when i have it in focus it is above the top and bottom panels. this may have happened when I switched to 1650x1080 (or whatever) resolution but i'm not sure. how can i fix this?
[07:29] <Finnish> Hmm, Evolution crashes EVERY time I check signatures from Edit -> Prefs and check automated signatures, and press OK? Anyone seen this?
[07:30] <sarana_monk> In the command line I went to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe and change the "device" into value "ati". then i saved this file as xorg.conf and it restarted without any problem directly to GUI! thank you
[07:30] <gaintsura> ardchoille: currently at 2.6.24-22, just upgraded today, smooth running, but I will keep that in mind
[07:30] <eseven73> freetown: yeah im trying to find info bout it on google but so far all i see are stuff relating to Kadmin?
[07:30] <binarymutant> gj sarana_monk
[07:30] <dft> fallore: sounds like gnome-wm locked up
[07:30] <rww> gaintsura: yeah. Just make sure you keep the latest version and whatever version you're using (uname -r). As ardchoille says, might be a good idea to keep one extra, too.
[07:30] <sarana_monk> :-)
[07:30] <dft> fallore: or whatever wm you are using
[07:30] <eseven73> freetown: im not familiar with kadm5 or even what it does, so im probably no help sorry :(
[07:31] <freetown> eseven73, no worries
[07:31] <eseven73> just keep asking like every 5-10 mins, one of the pro's in here will help freetown  :)
[07:31] <ardchoille> gaintsura: we never know what tomorrow's update might bring :)
[07:31] <gaintsura> nww: would be a bit hard now, I have only enough space on my /boot for 2 kernels
[07:31] <fallore> dft: do you still think so if all the other windows are fine and i've restarted X and my computer?
[07:31] <gaintsura> this is all too true, matter of fact I had to re-run envyng after today's kernel update
[07:32] <dft> fallore: maybe not after that being said
[07:32] <fallore> dft: :/
[07:32] <dft> fallore: I think I know what's up
[07:33] <henke> has anybody managed to get skype recording working with pulseaudio?
[07:33] <dft> fallore: alt left click on the window in question, you should get a move crosshair icon, drag the window down and to the left until you see the controls and the title bar
[07:33] <fallore> dft: this doesn't work either :/
[07:34] <dft> fallore: dude, you're killing me:)
[07:35] <fallore> dft: i can assure you this sucks more for me lol
[07:35] <eseven73> is it normal for a distro to update the kernel every day? or is this just unique to Ubuntu? Updates are nice , but they also break things just as easily, to the point where i refuse to update anymore.
[07:35] <ardchoille> fallore: does alt+f8 allow you to resize the window?
[07:36] <fallore> ardchoille: no
[07:36] <Nrbelex> How do I change the setting which makes the workspace change when I scroll using my laptop's finger-pad?
[07:36] <binarymutant> eseven73: when you live off debian unstable updates are regular
[07:37] <ardchoille> fallore: What about alt+shift and choose resize?
[07:37] <ardchoille> fallore: sorry, alt+space
[07:37] <fallore> ardchoille: this doens't work either. it refuses to budge
[07:37] <Demios1> ardchoille: thanks, it's good now. is there a way to re-install the other theme though?
[07:37] <ardchoille> fallore: is this with all of your windows>
[07:37] <ardchoille> ?
[07:37] <fallore> ardchoille: only firefox, although other windows have been having issues with their title bar where the color gets messed up.
[07:37] <chairman> hey guys
[07:37] <Wicked> are there any other file indexing programs other then updatedb?
[07:38] <eseven73> gotcha, binarymutant ok i guess im just not in the "bleeding-edge software" crowd, to me, just as long as the darn thing works, im good with that :)
[07:38] <ardchoille> Demios1: was it a theme yo downloaded? If so you might file a bug report with the theme author
[07:38] <Guest82361> can someone help me uninstall oss so i can use also again
[07:38] <ikonia> Guest82361: just install over the top
[07:38] <ikonia> gu	 the instal
[07:38] <binarymutant> eseven73: sounds like you need an LTS or debian stable :)
[07:38] <ardchoille> fallore: that sounds like a problem with your window manager. Are you using compiz?
[07:38] <r3dxp> how can i kill compiz?
[07:38] <eseven73> im already on it :)
[07:38] <fallore> ardchoille: let me check
[07:38] <Demios1> ardchoille it's one that came as deafult in ubuntu
[07:38] <eseven73> 8.04 binarymutant
[07:39] <fallore> ardchoille: visual effects is set to normal, i don't know if that is a yes or no :/
[07:39] <ikonia> eseven73: binarymutant ?
[07:39] <Guest82361> ikonia: well i cant get my sound to work with also anymore and before it worked before i installed oss
[07:39] <Ary4n> avion
[07:39] <r3dxp> ?
[07:39] <ikonia> eseven73: what do you mean by that
[07:39] <ardchoille> Demios1: Hmm.. never seen that happen, but you can install any theme you want
[07:39] <eseven73> 8.04=everything works :)   well for me anyways
[07:39] <eseven73> hah ikonia ?
[07:39] <ardchoille> !themes | Demios1
[07:39] <eseven73> mean by what?
[07:39] <r3dxp> i just stopped my X server because i have install 177.82 nvidia patch drver
[07:39] <ardchoille> fallore: that means not using compiz
[07:40] <ikonia> eseven73: what do you mean by 8.04 binary mutant ?
[07:40] <binarymutant> ?
[07:40] <eseven73> oh prolly a typo i meant to say binarymutant*
[07:40] <Guest82361> ikonia: tyler@intel:~$ sudo dpkg -purge oss-linux
[07:40] <Guest82361> [sudo] password for tyler:
[07:40] <Guest82361> dpkg: unknown option -u
[07:40] <gaintsura> another question... when I try to play video from any of my video programs (gstreamer, mplayer, totem, vlc) I get flashing on the video display, usually white and splitting from top right corner to bottom left flashing back and forth from one side to the other.. anyone have any ideas?
[07:40] <r3dxp> e
[07:40] <ikonia> eseven73: what do you mean by binarymutant 8.04 is not called binarymutant
[07:40] <binarymutant> gaintsura: are you using compiz or 3d effects?
[07:40] <gaintsura> compiz
[07:40] <binarymutant> ikonia: my name is binarymutant
[07:40] <eseven73> i know, it was a typo ikonia
[07:41] <itai_michaelson> hi, can anyone tell me how to install nvidia drivers? i don't have xubuntu-desktop , only xfce4 on top of server install
[07:41] <binarymutant> gaintsura: try turning it off and see if that helps
[07:41] <eseven73> its late + this keyboard sucks, decent excuse?
[07:41] <eseven73> ;)
[07:41] <outlaw1> gaintsura: i get same thing while using compiz for some reason, havent figured it out yet
[07:41] <gaintsura> if I disable it I lose the rest of my desktop functionality.
[07:41] <ardchoille> !nvidia | itai_michaelson
[07:41] <gaintsura> outlaw1: the odd thing is that video plays fine when its played from a browser
[07:41] <youshaoyun> how to use gtmess
[07:42] <binarymutant> gaintsura: lower res on the web
[07:42] <Guest82361> why do i get this error? tyler@intel:~$ sudo dpkg -purge oss-linux
[07:42] <Guest82361> [sudo] password for tyler:
[07:42] <Guest82361> dpkg: unknown option -u
[07:42] <gaintsura> hm
[07:42] <fallore> ardchoille: does me not using compiz give you any hints?
[07:42] <ikonia> binarymutant: ahh thank yoyu
[07:43] <binarymutant> Guest82361: you need 2 hyphens like --purge maybe
[07:43] <ardchoille> fallore: no, I was hoping the other way around
[07:43] <fallore> ardchoille: bummer
[07:43] <ardchoille> fallore: and I can't seem to find anything about your problem
[07:43] <itai_michaelson> ardchoille, let me make sure i understand - i need to apt-get nvidia-glx (on intrepid), correct?
[07:43] <rww> Guest82361: try sudo apt-get purge oss-linux
[07:43] <erbi> how can i kill X server completely?
[07:43] <youshaoyun> help me how to use gtmess ,version 0.94
[07:43] <Guest82361> i wanna uninstall oss though
[07:43] <erbi> yes thats what i need to do
[07:43] <erbi> im trying to install 177.82
[07:43] <ardchoille> itai_michaelson: follow what that web page tells you, I did it differently so it's best to follow the docs
[07:44] <erbi> when i run /bin/sh NVIDIA.pkg2.run, it says i have to close X server.. but i did
[07:44] <rww> Guest82361: if you really want to use dpkg instead of apt-get (which is what you probably should use), try -P instead of -p.
[07:44] <rww> -P instead of -purge **
[07:44] <ardchoille> erbi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:44] <itai_michaelson> ardchoille, they all seem to say System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, but i don't have that on xfce
[07:44] <erbi> yeah i did that
[07:44] <erbi> i think its because of my compiz daemon running
[07:44] <ardchoille> itai_michaelson: then you need to be in #xubuntu and find out their method
[07:44] <erbi> how can i stop compiz ?
[07:45] <itai_michaelson> ardchoille, ok thanks
[07:45] <gaintsura> binarymutant, outlaw1: I remember fixing it some time ago, but I don't remember how
[07:45] <Nrbelex> How do I change the setting which makes the workspace change when I scroll using my laptop's finger-pad?
[07:46] <BlearyBram> hi, I've just upgraded into Intrepid on my Sony Vaio and now the display config doesn't work.  What is the best way to restore it into usable state (I'm now in low graphics atm).
[07:46] <Guest82361> how do i turn these programs off or whatever.,.....Some applications are still using OSS - cannot unload
[07:46] <Guest82361> 6392 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory--oaf-ior-fd=26
[07:46] <Guest82361> 6556 gnome-volume-control
[07:46] <Guest82361> 6392 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2--oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory--oaf-ior-fd=26
[07:46] <Guest82361> 6556 gnome-volume-control
[07:46] <FloodBot3> Guest82361: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <Guest82361> sorry pastebin
[07:46] <BlearyBram> should I install restricted modules from ATi?
[07:46] <outlaw1> gaintsura: yeah, mine isnt at top of my priority list since i'm not using compiz effects everyday. just to show of sometimes.
[07:46] <fallore> my firefox browser is missing the topmost bar which contains the title, maximize, minimize and close buttons. it won't let me resize it and when i have it in focus it is above the top and bottom panels. this may have happened when I switched to 1650x1080 (or whatever) resolution but i'm not sure. how can i fix this?
[07:46] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: no, it's not free (as in freedom) :)
[07:47] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: indeed, so what should I do? vesa is not working.
[07:47] <BlearyBram> :P
[07:47] <gaintsura> I use compiz effects all the time (multiple sleek workspaces are good for me) however I dislike having to go into windows to watch a movie, my sound app is messed up on there
[07:47] <Nrbelex> Guest82361, use the system monitor
[07:47] <BlearyBram> I don't care about libre at this stage, I care about usability
[07:47] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: use the ati driver instead idk, I use the ones from ati, since I hate freedom :)
[07:48] <ikonia> Guest82361: dpkg -purge is not an option apt-get purge is
[07:48] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: the panel is so big that I can't click. :P
[07:48] <ikonia> erbiyou no longer have X windows running
[07:48] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: lol that's terrible, ya I would definitly go with a better driver than vesa
[07:49] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: well, I can't even use vesa at the moment: I could back in Hardy days (or was it i810?)
[07:49] <chairman> can i use debian on here?
[07:49] <paul68> hi I have an ipod and I can use it in ubuntu, another thing is that when you use Itunes it is automaticly checks for updates on the ipod is there a program in ubuntu that does the same?
[07:50] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: that's weird you cant use vesa. Vesa and ati should work for you :/
[07:50]  * gaintsura w00ts
[07:50] <ikonia> erbi you have no x server running now?
[07:50] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: I found it weird too!
[07:50] <BlearyBram> it's a rather old machine
[07:50] <xyxxl> BlearyBram, have you tried creating a new default xorg.conf by using the one that 'X -configure' creates? That's gotten things to "just work" for me a few times
[07:51] <ikonia> paul68: hardware updates can only be done through itunes
[07:51] <BlearyBram> oh yeah, I forgot that commend.
[07:51] <paul68> ikonia: thanks
[07:51] <gaintsura> outlaw1, binarymutant: with gmplayer you can go to preferences and select the video mode XImage/Shm and it fixed it!
[07:51] <binarymutant> gaintsura: that's cool, I have no idea what Ximage/Shm is though
[07:52] <BlearyBram> right, brb
[07:54] <Finnish> I can't view youtube-videos, they just don't play
[07:54] <binarymutant> Finnish: you got flash installed?
[07:54] <Finnish> binarymutant: Yeah
[07:55] <gaintsura> binarymutant: open up gmplayer, go to preferences, then video tab, select (in the select box) the one that says XImage/Scm (though after this I had to change my audio driver for gmplayer as well)
[07:55] <binarymutant> Finnish: you can use youtube-dl and play them in mplayer, but if flash is installed, correctly, it should work ://
[07:55] <Finnish> Yeah, flashplugin-nonfree is installed
[07:56] <binarymutant> no clue, srry Finnish
[07:56] <binarymutant> youtube-dl is a good tool though :)
[07:58] <five_> hello
[07:58] <xLnc`> anyone who can help me?
[07:58] <adam7> !ask  | xLnc`
[07:58] <five_> i cant open my source list, just re installed 8.10 and its giving me permission denied
[07:59] <five_> tried sudo -s
[07:59] <xLnc`> Im trying to installing Ubuntu, Im using Wubi and have Iso image of Ubuntu 8.10. I run the Wubi and it starts downloading the data from Internet instead of using the Iso image.
[07:59] <xLnc`> what should i do?
[07:59] <freetown> eseven73, man klist lists /etc/krb5.keytab as default location for file. i'm fine now, thanks
[08:00] <binarymutant> xLnc`: is the file even there? try just a normal sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <xLnc`> Im on windows Xp.
[08:00] <binarymutant> can't help with windows srry :/
[08:00] <ikonia> xLnc`: wubi downloads from the intenet, not an iso
[08:01] <ikonia> xLnc`: an iso is compressed data, so it cant be used like that
[08:01] <xLnc`> it worked at my 2nd pc :o
[08:01] <azfira> CICI
[08:01] <ikonia> oh reakky, are you %100
[08:01] <ikonia> really
[08:01] <ikonia> I meant really sorry
[08:02] <xLnc`> no :)!
[08:02] <Ian_Corne> xLnc`:
[08:02] <Ian_Corne> run wubi from the iso
[08:02] <xLnc`> I did that to.
[08:02] <ikonia> xLnc`: your not sure ?
[08:02] <Ian_Corne> i did it a week ago and worked for me
[08:03] <xLnc`> Mounted the image and run the Wubi, Copied the iso and Wubi to the same folder...
[08:03] <Ian_Corne> nono
[08:03] <xLnc`> ikonia, im sure.
[08:03] <Ian_Corne> you have to run wubi from the iso
[08:03] <Ian_Corne> so go to your mountpoint
[08:03] <Ian_Corne> your virtual drive
[08:03] <xyxxl> wubi will only work with the desktop iso if its in the same dir as the wubi exe
[08:03] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me some good movie players
[08:03] <ikonia> DarkKnight: mplayer, totem, vlc etc etc
[08:03] <xyxxl> make sure its not the alternative iso
[08:04] <azfira> VGH  DYIDYTYUDTY
[08:04] <azfira> JKLGUIOU,
[08:04] <ikonia> DarkKnight: look on the ubuntu "new user" info and pick the software you want
[08:04] <FloodBot3> azfira: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <xLnc`> I downloaded it from ubuntu.com.
[08:04] <azfira> GUIFYID
[08:04] <Ian_Corne> :p
[08:04] <Ian_Corne> mount it, go to the drive
[08:05] <Ian_Corne> and click wubi in the mounted directory
[08:05] <xyxxl> The wubi FAQ even says to just put the ISO in the same folder as wubi.exe and run it.
[08:05] <Ian_Corne> yeah i didn't try that yet
[08:05] <gaintsura> how can I clear my outgoing sendmail queue?
[08:05] <xLnc`> ok, im trying the mounted-one again.
[08:05] <Ian_Corne> i gotta go now, cya
[08:06] <xLnc`> calculating checksums..
[08:06] <MonthOLDpickle> hey guys
[08:06] <xLnc`> its again downloading the data.
[08:07] <xyxxl> are you trying to use the ISO for the 64-bit version? It might be lookging for the 32bit one?
[08:07] <ikonia> xyxxl: I don't understand how it can use the iso as the repos on the disk will be in squash fs format
[08:08] <xLnc`> its 32 bit.
[08:08] <ikonia> xyxxl: I could only see this possible working with the alternative cd
[08:08] <xyxxl> ikaros, http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php then why would the wubi faq tell you to do so?
[08:08] <ikonia> xyxxl: no idea, I can't sese how it would work though
[08:09] <Ayabara> I move a laptop with a 1400x1050 display between docking stations at home and at work. At home I have a secondary display of 1680x1050, and at work one of 1600x1200. I have ati graphics. (How) can I make an xorg.conf that will work out in both these cases?
[08:10] <binarymutant> Ayabara: you can add another monitor in your xorg.conf, if that's what you mean
[08:11] <corinth> Alright, I'm back To reiterate:
[08:11] <corinth> Alright, so. I'm having trouble getting connected to my wifi network on my PC. I can view the available networks, but can't connect to them. Help?
[08:11] <binarymutant> corinth: how can you view them?
[08:12] <corinth> Using the networkmanager applet, binarymutant.
[08:12] <corinth> I can see their signal strength, but I can't connect.
[08:13] <binarymutant> corinth: in a terminal you can type iwconfig <device, like eth0> essid "<essid name>" enc on key s:<whatever key is>
[08:13] <Thierry> Hello
[08:13] <binarymutant> corinth: and if there's no errors or anything then just run sudo dhclient
[08:14] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: X -configure doesn't even attempt to work!
[08:14] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: I didn't know X had that option
[08:14] <ikonia> corinth: 1.) what network card model are you using 2.) drop all security on your wirless lan and try to connect that way first
[08:14] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: ah, it was someone else, but I can't recall his name
[08:14] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:14] <ikonia> binarymutant: that wont work as xorg is now dynamic, only defined sections will be changed
[08:15] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: I'm actually doing that in runlevel one (recivery mode)
[08:15] <Ayabara> binarymutant: what I mean is that http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4f52443e works well on my 1680x1050, and I want to modify it so it works with 1600x1200 as well
[08:15] <binarymutant> ikonia: but it gets a skel
[08:15] <ikonia> binarymutant: gets s skel ?
[08:15] <corinth> ikonia: I'm using a netgear wg111v3. How do I drop the security?
[08:15] <ikonia> corinth: is that a usb card
[08:15] <binarymutant> ikonia: it gets a skeleton xorg.conf
[08:15] <ikonia> binarymutant: just removing xorg.conf will re-create a new one on the next reboot
[08:15] <corinth> ikonia: Yes.
[08:15] <binarymutant> ikonia: didn't know that
[08:16] <ikonia> corinth: ugh, before progressing further I'd check what features are supported under linux
[08:16] <corinth> ikonia: I've used this card under Linux before, just fine. Under Ubuntu, even.
[08:17] <ikonia> corinth: so what exactly is the probem, what happenhen you try to connect
[08:17] <corinth> I try to connect to it, it looks like it might be connecting, then it is back to the beginning. Not being connected, I mean.
[08:18] <ikonia> corinth: the most common cause for that behaviour is the card not being offered an IP address via the dhcp server
[08:18] <binarymutant> Ayabara: well what if you used a resolution that works on both? like 1024x768 or what not?
[08:18] <comp6> 1650x1080 vs 1680x1050 ?
[08:19] <corinth> I'm now trying to use ndisgtk to configure it using the windows driver. I installed the driver, it says the hardware is present, but when I click Configure Network, it says "Could not find a network configuration tool".
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> Hey
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> I went to gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> I am tryign to cahgne toe boot default from ubuntu to windows
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> and I can't figure out what to change
[08:19] <sparq__> Is there a way to make files in a folder automatically change file permissions when they are placed into a folder?
[08:20] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: there's a default option, change it to your windows partition I guess
[08:20] <mib_ik3qnigy> Yea trying to find it
[08:21] <mib_ik3qnigy> I can't for the life of me
[08:21] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: should be line 14;  default     0
[08:21] <xyxxl> the number is the order they show in the list near the end
[08:21] <mib_ik3qnigy> okay see the default     0
[08:22] <mib_ik3qnigy> change to default    saved
[08:22] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: if you change it to 1 it's the second entry, 2 is the third entry, and so forth
[08:22] <mib_ik3qnigy> than scroll too bottom very end where it says windows and put default   0
[08:22] <BlearyBram> xyxxl: X -configure didn't work, it simply froze.
[08:22] <xyxxl> strange
[08:23] <Thierry>  hello fans of Linux news
[08:23] <bullgard4> TunaPie called Audacious. Under the column headline 'Now Playing' TunePie shows for a particular highlighted stream: 'Johann Sebastian Bach -Suite No.02 in B minor." But Audiacious displays: "Richard Wagner - Der fliegende Holländer." And Audiacious plays it. Why does Tunapie not update its 'Now Playing' content?
[08:23] <mib_ik3qnigy> I don't see where the others other to change the order...
[08:23] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: what entry number is your windows partition? if it's the 4th one you need to put default 3
[08:24] <mib_ik3qnigy> its around line 156???
[08:24] <mib_ik3qnigy> Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader)
[08:25] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: pastebin it and let me see
[08:25] <mib_ik3qnigy> how do you pastebin lol
[08:25] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: pastebin.com, and copy paste
[08:26] <mib_ik3qnigy> http://pastebin.com/m560233dc
[08:26] <mylisto> quick question
[08:26] <revilodraw> hi, i want to use this command 'mplayer -dumpaudio [name of file].flv' in order to extract the audio from a .flv file, but when i enter this in the terminal i am told 'file not found' - do i need to cd to the file/folder, and if so, how?
[08:26] <mylisto> trying to edit a conf file...
[08:26] <mylisto> but I don't have permission?
[08:26] <gavi> how can i find out the size of a directoy and all the contents inside via terminal
[08:26] <mylisto> How do I get permission (become root)?
[08:26] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: change default 0 to default 3
[08:26] <Thierry> ?
[08:26] <Thierry> ??
[08:26] <hateball> !sudo | mylisto
[08:26] <dnyy> mylisto: sudo
[08:26] <gavi> mylisto, chmod
[08:26] <DarkKnight> ikonia; any good music players??
[08:26] <gaintsura> revilodraw: try placing the path with the filename to the command
[08:27] <revilodraw> mylisto: alt f2, 'gksudo nautilus'
[08:27] <mib_ik3qnigy> on line 14, change 0 to 3?
[08:27] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: yeah, but it might be 4 since there is an empty one.
[08:27] <revilodraw> gaintsura; at the beginning of the command>
[08:27] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: but try 3 first
[08:27] <corinth> It looks like my wifi connection gets stuck on "Requesting a network address from the wireless network [my network]
[08:27] <bullgard4> revilodraw: input the whole path of the file.
[08:28] <gavi> size of a directory and all contents inside? (via terminal)
[08:28] <xyxxl> gavi, du -chs dir
[08:28] <revilodraw> bullgard4: ooohhh  ok
[08:28] <mib_ik3qnigy> okay I am updating, will reboot after thats done.
[08:28] <gavi> xyxxl, thanx
[08:28] <xLnc`> xyxxxl.
[08:28] <mib_ik3qnigy> Also..how do I enable two monitors? The restircted nvidia driver is enabled..
[08:28] <gaintsura> revilodraw: no... like mplayer --dumpaudio /path/to/file/filename.flv
[08:28] <mib_ik3qnigy> or activated like it says it is
[08:29] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ install nvidia-settings and run it
[08:29] <corinth> After it hangs for a bit, it asks me for the authentication again. Funny thing is, I click "show key" to see what it has saved (because the key looks entirely too long), and it has something completely different. Is that just an encrypted version of my wep key, or something?
[08:29] <xLnc`> the problem is.. that my office system required 32 bit.. and i was trying the same at my home system. which is 64 bit.
[08:29] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me any good music players??
[08:29] <xLnc`> its the reason Wubi was always downloading a fresh copy for ut.
[08:29] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ I'm currently using Totem
[08:29] <histo> IS there a way to trip xfix?
[08:29] <mib_ik3qnigy> I see nvidia x server settings
[08:29] <ardchoille> DarkKnight: audacious
[08:29] <histo> I have a minimal install and need to configure kb and mouse for X but xorg.conf is gone now.
[08:29] <corinth> DarkKnight: Banshee.
[08:30] <DarkKnight> hateball, ardchoille, corinth; is that really good
[08:30] <comp6> anyone know how to setup a openVPN
[08:30] <corinth> DarkKnight: Banshee is awesome.
[08:30] <hateball> histo⡶ It's not used by default, but you can always create one and fill it with the info needed
[08:30] <xLnc`> the only thing im worried about now is AntiPoisner.
[08:30] <xLnc`> my internet connection doesnt work without it.
[08:30] <histo> hateball, well what is the default install of ubuntu using now to detect this stuff?
[08:30] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ Well right now, all I need the player to do is... play. So Totem is sufficient :)
[08:30] <mib_ik3qnigy> its enabled but not working =(
[08:31] <revilodraw> bullgard4 and gaintsura ; THANKS
[08:31] <hateball> histo⡶ Xorg has autodetection these days
[08:31] <DarkKnight> corinth; so will banshee play movies also well...
[08:31] <gaintsura> yep...
[08:31] <histo> hateball, not if you just install xserver-xorg-core aparently
[08:31] <xLnc`> anyone here having any idea about anti poisner?
[08:31] <xyxxl> I've had weird issues with Wubi in the past, too, it'd be nice it it gave an error telling you why its not using the iso
[08:31] <corinth> DarkKnight: Yes.
[08:31] <mib_ik3qnigy> says I can't save
[08:31] <binarymutant> xLnc`: what anti poisner?
[08:31] <mib_ik3qnigy> Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[08:31] <binarymutant> wahts*
[08:31] <DarkKnight> i am trying to copy a video from a cd but only part of it is being copied....
[08:32] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ Some settings need to be changed as root, ie sudo
[08:32] <Ayabara> Should my days of xorg.conf-editing be over? If I want to setup dual screen on my laptop with ati graphics, should I use ati's configuration tool?
[08:32] <mylisto> anyone ever get an xbox to stream with ubuntu?
[08:32] <mib_ik3qnigy> err I am really new..thats like UAC in vista isn't it
[08:33] <xLnc`> binary : a AutoHotKey script
[08:33] <arrenlex> Ayabara: What display driver? If it su[pports xrandr you would use that...
[08:33] <hateball> !sudo | mib_ik3qnigy
[08:33] <snek> hey all, now running ubuntu on my work imac as well.. ubuntu > osx :)
[08:33] <mib_ik3qnigy> do I do that in terminal
[08:33] <xLnc`> binding set of IPs with some hard-coded mac addresses.
[08:33] <rakoo> any HPmini user ? i'can't boot from my usb drive ine order to install ubuntu... ve tried every tuto found on Mr google but not a clue, doesn't work, after boot device menu it's freeze...
[08:33] <xyxxl> mylisto, i've streamed to my PS3 from Ubuntu, I'd imagine the 360 isnt much different
[08:33] <xLnc`> arp -s <IP>  <Mac-Address> - maybe
[08:34] <mib_ik3qnigy> how do I get the nvidia settigns to work...
[08:34] <DarkKnight> i am trying to copy a video from a cd but only part of it is being copied....can anyone help
[08:34] <mib_ik3qnigy> !sudo I see
[08:34] <Ayabara> arrenlex: I have one working xorg.conf that says driver=fglrx, and another working one that doesn't mention driver at all
[08:34] <mylisto> did you have to use ushare xyxxl:
[08:34] <mib_ik3qnigy>    !sudo what in terminal
[08:35] <phnom> mylisto: check out twonkymedia, I got it to work with my xbox
[08:35] <xyxxl> mylisto, I'm checking the repos to see if I can remember what i was using
[08:35] <sleepy_cat> I am only a human.. please dont think i m not intelligent :)
[08:35] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ Yes, you run that in a terminal. Or with the Alt+F2 launcher. Also, it helps if you adress your questions to me, cant see them otherwise :)
[08:35] <Ayabara> arrenlex: it's a laptop with 1400x1050 that I use on docking stations with 1680x1050 and 1600x1200. I want my system to automatically find out which one and set the resolution accordingly
[08:36] <xLnc`> anyone here knows about a good starting guide for ubuntu?
[08:36] <arrenlex> Ayabara: Ah, that's beyond what I've done... sorry.
[08:36] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball, what else do I type after !sudo
[08:36] <arrenlex> !dualhead | Ayabara, this might be useful:
[08:36] <Ayabara> arrenlex: thanks
[08:37] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ You type "sudo <command>" In this case nvidia-settings. Be sure to read up about rights tho, dont just run as root in hopes of getting stuff to work
[08:37] <mylisto> I'm in terminal
[08:37] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ Because that can be very dangerous
[08:37] <mylisto> How do I become root?
[08:37] <arrenlex> !root | mylisto
[08:38] <DarkKnight> i am trying to copy a video from a cd but only part of it is being copied....can anyone help
[08:38] <fallore> pidgin randomly closes, no idea why, and i'm not running that facebook chat thing either. anyone got a clue? :/
[08:38] <arrenlex> mylisto: Ugh, that was useless. Put sudo in front of your commands you want to run as root, and type your password.
[08:38] <mylisto> I know what the root password is
[08:38] <DigitalFiz> got a weird problem with ubuntu/samba/vista
[08:38] <histo> Anyone know what tool ubuntu-desktop uses to detect kb and mouse for X?  I'm trying to install a minimal system with fluxbox
[08:38] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball I try !sudo nvidia-settings and I get app not found
[08:38] <xyxxl> you can use root by doing 'sudo su -'
[08:38] <Skryre> Im trying to install wine but keeping getting a long list of errors with connections, could anyone help?
[08:38] <DigitalFiz> i think my ubuntu box is showing up as  "Unknown Device" in vista anyone else have this problem?
[08:39] <skoef> xyxxl: sudo -i?
[08:39] <hovis> Anyone know of a standard command to write th contents of the system clipboard to a file?
[08:39] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ that's because it's sudo and not !sudo
[08:39] <hovis> or know where that clipboard is kept (if it's a file).
[08:39] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ !sudo is just a way to trigger a factoid here on IRC ;)
[08:39] <xyxxl> skoef, one of the other many ways
[08:39] <fallore> wow that !sudo command really messed people up lol
[08:39] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball /facepalm
[08:40] <StormAtRest> I read a good article about nvidia drivers?
[08:40] <StormAtRest> can i paste the link here?
[08:40] <[RIP]Gallows> how do I make a emerald --replace run at start up
[08:40] <StormAtRest> maybe it can be useful to hateball.
[08:40] <mylisto> ah well
[08:40] <mylisto> I'll do this later
[08:40] <sparq__> I'm trying to set up acl but when I enter the command "sudo setfacl -dm g:torrents:rwx home/[username]/torrents" it comes up with an error what am i doing wrong?
[08:40] <hateball> [RIP]Gallows⡶ You can put it in compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:41] <[RIP]Gallows> ah yes
[08:41] <[RIP]Gallows> thanks
[08:41] <BlearyBram> just tried to installed the ATi installer, but it said that 'vcdk' non existent, what's that?
[08:41] <blip-> hi all,  I'm using kernel 2.6.24.21-generic on ubuntu.   I installed the next .22 kernel but it won't boot.... it gets frozen on starting boot scripts rc.local.... I'm using the exact same lines in menu.lst as for the .21 kernel i'm on now.  (except for the number change)... this is the line:    kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-22-generic BOOT_IMAGE=linux-0 root=/dev/sda2 quiet splash ro i8042.nomux=1   \n  initrd
[08:41] <blip-> (hd0,1)/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic    ... do you think the problem could be related to this ?    Thanks
[08:41] <sparq__> I either get "setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 3
[08:41] <sparq__> "
[08:41] <blip-> using 8.04
[08:41] <sparq__> or I'llegal operation
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball /facepalm
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball sorry for my noobness
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball so separate x screen and I choose resolution..do I ahev to restart for it to work?
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball I also saved it to the config
[08:41] <FloodBot3> mib_ik3qnigy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ You only need to restart X, a logout should do.
[08:42] <hateball> !pm |  Skryre
[08:42] <mib_ik3qnigy> ah okay
[08:42] <sparq__> I'm trying to set up acl but when I enter the command "sudo setfacl -dm g:torrents:rwx home/[username]/torrents" it comes up with an error what am i doing wrong?
[08:42] <mib_ik3qnigy> You know a site that I can grab most commands needed to know in linux so I can print at work??
[08:44] <f00fyf00f3rz> Hello world
[08:44] <Skryre> Does anyone know what this means? W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:44] <arrenlex> !apt | Skryre
[08:44] <randomwalker> mib_ik3qnigy http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+command+line+cheat+sheet
[08:45] <arrenlex> ugh, that was way less helpful than I thought.
[08:46] <Feltan> hello everyone. Does anybody know if Kdenlive 0.7 will be included in Ubuntus repository or do i have to compile by myself. ?
[08:47] <five_> anyone know how to change panel theme?
[08:48] <DarkKnight> hey is there any tool to split videos
[08:49] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ Not sure, but avidemux might be able to do it
[08:49] <Ebubekir_> #commochat
[08:50] <Cope> Using hardy heron - firefox has crashed, and now when I try to start it I see the process, but it seems to be hanging indefinitely and won't start
[08:50] <yinoneh> hi. anyone knows how to add edit the 'places' applet in main Gnome panel ? thanks in advance.
[08:51] <Cope> iirc there's a lock file or something I can remove? or is there another way?
[08:51] <bkr> #commochat
[08:51] <hateball> yinoneh⡶ are you looking to add items?
[08:51] <yinoneh> Cope: start it through the command line
[08:51] <Guest35045> hi. I want to test ubuntu but i have a problem
[08:51] <Cope> yinoneh: i did
[08:51] <Skryre> I tried to use sudo apt-get update and it seems like it worked most of the way down, but then at end I get a sizable list of erros all beginning with W
[08:51] <Cope> yinoneh: it's hanging - not doing anything
[08:51] <yinoneh> hateball: ys
[08:51] <yinoneh> yes
[08:52] <hateball> yinoneh⡶ You can open Nautilus, browse somewhere and bookmark it. Then it'll show up
[08:52] <private_meta> hi there... can someone tell me why, without notice, the network manager symbol where i could change my ip address disappeared from my panel, as well as I'm not able to change my network settings from dhcp to manual IP since I've upgraded to ibex?
[08:52] <smnab> I've noticed something strange, typing free or top in the terminal always shows more memory usage than gnome system monitor. Why does this happen?
[08:52] <yinoneh> Cope: strace firefox
[08:52] <paissad> hi everybody, i'm new here !
[08:52] <hateball> !hi | paissad
[08:52] <Guest35045> there are two disributives of ubuntu:ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64
[08:52] <paissad> that's the fisrt time i join an IRC chat  !
[08:52] <Guest35045> ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386
[08:52] <yinoneh> hateball: thanks !
[08:53] <Guest35045> and i don't know which of them should i to download
[08:53] <DarkKnight> hateball; are you sure
[08:53] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ No, I started my sentance with "I'm not sure" for that particular reason ;)
[08:53] <paissad> Guest35045, it depends on your pc config !
[08:53] <Cope> what's the pasting guideline in this channel? is 4/5 lines ok, or pastebin preferred?
[08:53] <Guest35045> my cpu is amd sempron.Which ubuntu i should to download?
[08:54] <DigitalFiz> is there a proper way to update openoffice to 3.0 for ubuntu 8.10?
[08:54] <BlearyBram> is it possible to downgrade back into Hardy if I've updated over the air?
[08:54] <hateball> Guest35045⡶ i386
[08:54] <BlearyBram> DigitalFiz: Err, I don't think they've packaged that yet unfortunately.
[08:54] <hateball> DigitalFiz⡶ There's a PPA repo for it
[08:54] <paissad> Guest35045, ok you are amd sempron, but you must also know what kind of cpu you have 32 bits ou 64 bits
[08:54] <BlearyBram> hateball: I wonder why you're using ⡶?
[08:55] <paissad> Guest35045, understand ?
[08:55] <Cope> just that pastebin is a challenge, if my browser is broken :)
[08:55] <DigitalFiz> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[08:55] <hateball> BlearyBram⡶ Because I can
[08:55] <DigitalFiz> think that was my answer
[08:55] <BlearyBram> hateball: right…
[08:55] <Guest35045> hm. i386 for amd semrpron? Its not only for intels?
[08:55] <BlearyBram> anyway, is it possible to downgrade?
[08:55] <Skryre> could anyone explain what
[08:55] <Skryre>  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:55] <Skryre> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:55] <Skryre> means?
[08:55] <FloodBot3> Skryre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:55] <walker1> quit
[08:55] <BlearyBram> Guest32660: I think that's because it's down to 386 architecture are actually being shared.
[08:56] <Tita> Hi every body! I'm new here and I wanna ask some questions about ubuntu!
[08:56] <snek> question: i am running CompizFusion now, anyone know which command is Super+Tab? I want to change it to the same as Alt+Tab but can't figure out what command it's calling..
[08:56] <paissad> Guest35045, 32 bits must works well for you !
[08:56] <Guest35045> hateball.you told to me?
[08:57] <xyxxl> smnab, free and top are giving the 'total' as including buffers and cached memory, gnome-system-monitor is not
[08:57] <Tyrath> what's the .bashrc for consoles?
[08:57] <snek> Guest35045: i386 is generic for all x86 processors... works on any brand which can run windows.. to explain it in a simple way
[08:57] <paissad> is our ip adress which is displayed in the chat ?
[08:57] <smnab> xyxxl: so which one is more accurate?
[08:57] <paissad> who know ?
[08:58] <xyxxl> depends on your definition of RAM ussage :P
[08:58] <jschall> my audio keeps totally crapping out on me, when i try to play something in rhythmbox it sits at 0:00 and there's no command line output.
[08:58] <Scare|Working> Hi all
[08:58] <jschall> 8.10
[08:58] <Tyrath> actually don't worry
[08:59] <hateball> jschall⡶ Do you have a site with flash open+
[08:59] <paissad> nobody knows ? ........... i asked if it was our ip adresses which ares displayed on the chat !
[08:59] <paissad> ??
[08:59] <Tyrath> I just realised that I had to run source .bashrc from a console to get .bashrc to take effect
[08:59] <jschall> hateball: i did, not atm though
[08:59] <xyxxl> paissad, your ip address is displayed in the chat here
[08:59] <hateball> jschall⡶ But there's still Firefox windows open?
[08:59] <Tyrath> doing it in a terminal doesn't cut it
[08:59] <jschall> hateball: none
[08:59] <paissad> xyxxl, oh !
[09:00] <hateball> jschall⡶ and you've restarted rhythmbox?
[09:00] <paissad> xyxxl, is that a good thing ?
[09:00] <paissad> i don't think so !
[09:00] <jschall> hateball: yes, just did so, same issue, definitely NO firefox running at all
[09:00] <hateball> !cloak | paissad
[09:00] <xyxxl> paissad, i dont think of it as a good or bad thing, your ip address isnt exactly a secret thing.
[09:01] <hateball> jschall⡶ That sounds weird then. _something_ is obviously hogging the sound tho
[09:01] <paissad> xyxxl, maybe, but it's safier not to display it !
[09:01] <paissad> no ?
[09:01] <hateball> jschall⡶ Firefox+Flash usually does it for me
[09:01] <jschall> hateball: let me kill pidgin
[09:01] <youshaoyun> any more terminal tools to introduce me?
[09:01] <karooga> hi, I've upgraded from hardy to intrepid and now X doesn't work - gdm starts up but there is only rubbish shown on the screen.  Any ideas for what I can do to fix this?
[09:02] <sonoblaise> HI!  I'm running Intrepid (wich I just discovered is still an Alpha release!)and I encounter some weird problems with DVDs and visualisation in RythmBox (and the symptom is the same so I guess it comes from the same bug/problem/error/thing)...  I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with an ATI Mobility card and I use the native drivers from ubuntu because I cant get my screen res with the ati drivers...  When I load a DVD (with libcss2
[09:02] <sonoblaise> installed and totem, gxine or VLC) or turn the visualisation on in RythmBox, the software just close without a word
[09:03] <hateball> sonoblaise⡶ starting it from a terminal should give you the error output
[09:03] <paissad> this chat is international ............. but does it have irc channel for only some country ? ...........; for example FRANCE
[09:03] <paissad> ??
[09:03] <hateball> !fr | paissad
[09:03] <sonoblaise> hateball:  I already tried it... dont remember the output but it's pretty long
[09:04] <paissad> ubottu, ok , thanks !
[09:04] <sonoblaise> hateball:  can it be compiz that create conflict??
[09:04] <hateball> sonoblaise⡶ Well if you pastebin it, someone might be able to help :)
[09:04] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:04] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, I was thinking of backing up my dvd collection and was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on a suitable piece of software for ubuntu to do this?
[09:04] <sonoblaise> hateball:  uh...  pardon my noobness... what is pastebin?
[09:04] <hateball> oh207⡶ dvd::rip is pretty nice
[09:05] <hateball> !pastebin | sonoblaise
[09:05] <BlearyBram> sonoblaise: how did you run intrepid in native drivers? I can't and it's constantly send me into low graphics mode, it said (EE) No devices detected.
[09:05] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: you talking to me?
[09:05] <jschall> well, i'm just going to do the firefox padsp thing and see if it happens in the future, if it does i'll do further digging
[09:05] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:05] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Yeah, tab complete failure :)
[09:06] <Wartorn> Having issues with gphoto2, if i connect two cameras and i try to communicate with the non-default one using --port="usb05,18" for an example, it blatantly ignores it and just connects to the default one. is this a bug?
[09:06] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: ok, well when i make copies, will the menus also be copied or only the video?
[09:06] <sonoblaise> BlearyBram:  don't really know... it just worked out of the "box"
[09:06] <potwak> could anyone help me please?
[09:06] <BlearyBram> sonoblaise: ok
[09:06] <sonoblaise> BlearyBram:  I tried ATI drivers but deactivated it
[09:07] <potwak> vega
[09:07] <histo> This is driving me nuts. How do I get the keyboard and mouse working with a X on a minimal install?
[09:08] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ are you looking to do 1:1 backups+
[09:08] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Because dvdrip... rips the video
[09:09] <sonoblaise> hateball:  here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82874/
[09:09] <monkeyw1> shi ma ?
[09:09] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: yes 1:1 backups
[09:09] <potwak> i hope i will not be flamed for posting my question thrice. :)
[09:09] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:09] <ohletmeinnowgodd> potwak: i think you should check hardware manager
[09:10] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Well that could easily be done by just inserting the disc, rightclicking it and saving as an ISO image
[09:10] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: lol i just downloaded dvdrip anyways
[09:10] <ohletmeinnowgodd> lol
[09:10] <potwak> i'm using VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
[09:10] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Well hat has it's uses as well so :)
[09:11] <hateball> sonoblaise⡶ Afraid I've no idea. Keep in the channel tho, someone else might :)
[09:11] <potwak> ohletmeinnowgodd: the graphics on ubunt are so large.
[09:12] <potwak> ohletmeinnowgodd: i'm using VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
[09:13] <trupheenix> is there a limit to how many terminals i can create
[09:13] <trupheenix> now i get an error that couldn't create process when i click on the terminal icon :(
[09:13] <trupheenix> why?
[09:13] <karooga> Hi, how do I fix: "SIS: No matching Device section for instance" in X?  (I've just upgraded from hardy to intrepid).
[09:14] <sonoblaise> here is the output from rythmbox when I activate visualisation : http://paste.ubuntu.com/82875/
[09:14] <BlearyBram> karooga: ah, I ahve the similar problem
[09:14] <potwak> could someone help me fix my problem?
[09:14] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:14] <karooga> BlearyBram: is it still a problem or have you fixed it?
[09:14] <hateball> !patience | potwak
[09:15] <potwak> ok. i apologize. i'm just runnin out of time.
[09:15] <BlearyBram> karooga: I've just updated and so I'm in the middle of the trouble too. :S
[09:15] <Finnish> Is this video working for someone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO6N8JoayPU I can see some youtube-videos, but this and many others, nada, no way
[09:15] <karooga> BlearyBram: how many hours now? ;-)
[09:16] <BlearyBram> karooga: about 2 hours
[09:16] <BlearyBram> ?
[09:16] <BlearyBram> and still looking for solution
[09:16] <hateball> Finnish⡶ Working just fine on Intrepid
[09:16] <BlearyBram> the latest ATi driver won't install.
[09:16] <karooga> BlearyBram: I'm asking on #xorg but think everyone is away
[09:16] <Finnish> hateball: Damn, I'm also on intrepid and no luck
[09:16] <huwenfeng> ﻿ hi all, i wonder how does the rsync daemon 's pre-xfer exec works!  ﻿and the post-xfer exec    ﻿i just write a script that return -1 as the pre-xfer exec command, though the transfer did not occur, but the post-xfer exec still executed. any one know about this?
[09:16] <bukuroshi> hello
[09:17] <MonthOLDpickle> hateball, two screens is buggy isn't it? Its set at native resolution but it leaving a big blank area and yea...
[09:18] <karooga> BlearyBram: do you also have SIS?
[09:18] <BlearyBram> karooga: SIS?
[09:18]  * BlearyBram checks
[09:19] <XB23> hi guys when doing ls -l dir  what measurment is the filesize shown in kb mb gb?
[09:19] <MonthOLDpickle> anybody knwo why now in my boot menu linux generic and generic recovery mode is listed twice (memtest isn't and winows isn't) I had one before but after changing defaul 0 to a different number - trying 5 now) its like that
[09:19] <BlearyBram> don't think so, not now anyway
[09:19] <xyxxl> XB23, kb
[09:19] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: well i tried the right click thing and save as iso...but it ended up "completing" witthin seconds after i hit "copy"...looking at the "image" file...its tooo small to be a dvd copy...
[09:19] <XB23> ta
[09:19] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball:  i mean were talking 8g-<1mb
[09:19] <huwenfeng> XB23: ls -lh
[09:20] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ That's odd... hmmm not sure what would cause it. Does the DVD itself play?
[09:20] <ompaul> XB23, you can do ls -lh to get it more humanly readable
[09:20] <potwak> feels my luck run away from me today. :)
[09:20] <mchelen1> MonthOLDpickle, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst or copy it to pastebin and post the link
[09:20] <potwak> :|
[09:20] <XB23> ah
[09:20] <XB23> ty
[09:20] <ompaul> XB23, and it is bytes that it is in
[09:21] <sonoblaise> anybody encountered problems wit intrepid while trying to read video DVDs??
[09:21] <ompaul> !dvd | sonoblaise
[09:21] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: yeah it works fine, im playing it on totem
[09:21] <MonthOLDpickle> http://pastebin.com/m91884bb
[09:22] <MonthOLDpickle> mchelen1 http://pastebin.com/m91884bb
[09:22] <private_meta> heya... can anyone tell me how i can set up mysql to start automatically at system boot?
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: though i cant use the controls(ff,rw next chapter etc)
[09:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ill try brasero
[09:23] <MonthOLDpickle> I see actual copies of the same thign sin the menu.lst
[09:24] <hzl> hello world
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: ok its looking like its doing some legitimate ripping now
[09:24] <mchelen1> MonthOLDpickle, those are just different kernel versions, usually the system will keep a couple around in case the new one doesn't work you can pick the last version to load
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: maybe its encrypoted?
[09:24] <karooga> ﻿BlearyBram: the video chip - silicon integrated systems
[09:24] <histo> Anyone know how I can get my keyboard and touchpad detected by X on my laptop?  If you install xserver-xorg it doesn't detect them when your startx; however, if I install the ubuntu-desktop package it installs something that makes X work with them. I don't want to install ubuntu-desktop and gnome though.
[09:25] <MonthOLDpickle> mchelen1 I am trying to make windows default for time out boot. Instead of linux. I've tried 3 and 4..try 5?
[09:25] <BlearyBram> karooga: not very sure, was ATi SIS?
[09:25] <will__> How would I set up my external USB wifi card to load/mount/whatever automatically after I reboot
[09:25] <will__> I have to unplug and replug it at present, which is a problem
[09:26] <mchelen1> MonthOLDpickle, oh ok you want to change which is loaded by default? install grubeditor and it will let you change those options
[09:26] <pakus> Hiya, I'm trying to mount a "remote desktop server". Has anyone configured one?
[09:26] <xyxxl> MonthOLDpickle, it looks like it would be 6 on your machine.
[09:26] <private_meta> !update-rc.d
[09:27] <private_meta> hmm
[09:27] <MonthOLDpickle> Also guys having display issues
[09:27] <MonthOLDpickle> I have the nvidia drivers
[09:28] <MonthOLDpickle> and I changed it to enable both monitors yet my second even though it says its on 1900X 1200 its not using the full monitor and when stuff pops up there is all blurry
[09:28] <histo> MonthOLDpickle, did you use the hardware manager to install restrcited drivers?
[09:28] <nbeebo> !e17
[09:28] <MonthOLDpickle> histo Yes its activated. I used sudo nvidia-settings too
[09:28] <histo> MonthOLDpickle, well what sort of issues are you having then?
[09:28] <xyxxl> MonthOLDpickle, when you're trying to use 1920x1200 does it show up blurry and shifted to the side?
[09:28] <MonthOLDpickle> histo it even tells me the names of the two monitors..I want it like my windows setup with extended desktop
[09:29] <xyxxl> also, is your monitor HDMI?
[09:29] <MonthOLDpickle> xyxxl Yes
[09:29] <nbeebo> trying to install e17 then this cames up: "E17 DEPENDS: libasound2 (>1.0.16) but 1.0.15-3ubuntu4 is to be installed"
[09:29] <MonthOLDpickle> xyxxl not HDMI
[09:29] <sonoblaise> if I deactivate compiz, will I have to redo my setup if I turn it on again??
[09:29] <MonthOLDpickle> xyxxl but yes its shifted to the side. And blurry
[09:29] <xyxxl> I had the same problem using the NVIDIA drivers
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> did you fix it?
[09:30] <xyxxl> Its a problem with the nvidia drivers reading the EDID values from the monitor incorrectly
[09:30] <xyxxl> and no, I never found a fix for it :P
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> bah
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> I don't liek how it shows on my farther monitor >.>
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> brb
[09:30] <histo> MonthOLDpickle, install nvidia-settings package and use that.
[09:31] <xyxxl> if you check the nvidia control applet thing, your monitor might be showing up as a TV... some people have reported success by being able to manually change it to a monitor
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:31] <histo> wtf this mini.iso is taking for ever. Its not even downloading.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> histo: what method are you using?
[09:32] <histo> ActionParsnip, i'm just trying to install a console based system on a virtual machine its just horribly slow.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> histo: how are you downloading the iso?
[09:34] <histo> ActionParsnip, the mini.iso is already downlaoded
[09:34] <histo> Anyone know how I can get my keyboard and touchpad detected by X on my laptop?  If you install xserver-xorg it doesn't detect them when your startx; however, if I install the ubuntu-desktop package it installs something that makes X work with them. I don't want to install ubuntu-desktop and gnome though.
[09:34] <will__> Anyone?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> will__: wassup?
[09:35] <will__> I have an external USB wifi card that I use to connect to my WLAN. I'd like it to automatically be recognised when I boot this machine - but I don't know how
[09:35] <xyxxl> histo, have you tried the xorg.conf that  'X -confgure' generates?
[09:35] <histo> ActionParsnip, looks like it was an issue with the setup of the virtual machine selecting what type of OS was going to be installed.
[09:35] <will__> At the moment I have to unplug and replug it, which involves pulling out my desk and so on ;)
[09:35] <histo> xyxxl, intrepid has no xorg.conf
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> histo: mine does
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> histo: makes my nvidia card work nice
[09:36] <histo> ActionParsnip, its not actually using it though unless you change it. Stupid bullet proof X
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> histo: yep I changed it. So it CAN have xorg.conf
[09:37] <outlaw1> can i download and install all mozilla-plugins for the different players that i use or do i just have to choose 1 to use and stick with it ? thanks in advance
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> will__: run lsusb, you will get an identifier
[09:37] <histo> xyxxl, nice
[09:37] <histo> xyxxl, didn't know about this little app. Going to try that one.
[09:37] <will__> ActionParsnip: Ok
[09:38] <histo> xyxxl, I love you .
[09:38] <xyxxl> lol
[09:38] <histo> xyxxl, I've been pulling my hair out over this for some time.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> outlaw1: i'd just use 1, saves confusion
[09:38] <azfira> dewi
[09:38] <azfira> dewi
[09:38] <histo> matter of fact 8 hours. I new there had to be a way to generate an xorg.conf
[09:38] <azfira> dewi
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> histo: i miss te gutsy xorg config app
[09:39] <afancy> Hi, in Linux, how to caculate the time of executing a command ?
[09:39] <outlaw1> ActionParsnip: ok  , thanks for reply. new to linux and wasnt sure but thought it might cause some conflicts down the road possibly. thanks again
[09:39] <tarzeau> afancy: time command
[09:39]  * pakus is away: Gone away for now.
[09:39] <histo> ActionParsnip, well X -configure makes a nice one.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> histo: i just use one from my backup
[09:40] <histo> Yeah this mini.iso just stops when downloading packages at random times.
[09:40] <will__> ActionParsnip: What do I do with the id?
[09:40] <afancy> tarzeau: I got three output: real    0m0.008s user    0m0.004s
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: which one
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> will__: websearch my friend, websearch
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: another is sys
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: sys     0m0.004s
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: which one should i select?
[09:41] <will__> ActionParsnip: USB devices are *supposed* to be recognised when Linux boots?
[09:42] <tarzeau> afancy: which one do you want?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> will__: well yeah its recognised, you may not have the right driver for it though
[09:42] <tarzeau> afancy: can you read what the meaning of them is?
[09:42] <will__> ActionParsnip: Oh! It connects fine - I'm using it right now
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> will__: just like in windows, your system will see the device but have no idea how to use it until you install drivers
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> will__: can you clarify your issue then please
[09:43] <afancy> tarzeau: I just want the total executing time
[09:43] <azfira> dewi
[09:43] <will__> My USB wifi device, which works perfectly, is not recognised after I reboot *until* I unplug it and plug it back in
[09:43] <tarzeau> afancy: then it's called total?
[09:44] <tarzeau> afancy: err real
[09:44] <tarzeau> afancy: well depends on the system and shell probably
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> will__: hmm, weird
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> will__: let me websearch
[09:45] <Abracadabra> Hi
[09:45] <azfira> dewi
[09:45] <azfira> jamela
[09:45] <Abracadabra> how can I change the language keyb from the CLI
[09:45] <Abracadabra> ?
[09:45] <azfira> dewi
[09:45] <azfira> gdfghfgh
[09:46] <XB23> how many megabits are in a gigabyte?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> will__: whats the output of: lsmod | grep -i usb
[09:46] <Hikefu> 1000
[09:46] <Abracadabra> 1024
[09:46] <Hikefu> oops
[09:47] <Hikefu> Sorry
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> 1073741824
[09:47] <XB23> so is 6.50MBPS a good speed to download at?
[09:47] <arkygeek> hi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> XB23: oh yes :D
[09:47] <XB23> kk cool
[09:47] <will__> ActionParsnip: I appreciate the help. I've been summoned to bed - will get back to this later
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> XB23: wait, mega bits in a gig
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> XB23: http://www.unitconversion.org/data-storage/megabits-to-gigabytes-conversion.html
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> will__: np man
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> will__: little note
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> will__: you could try remodprobing those modules once you get logged in
[09:48] <will__> ActionParsnip: pastie.org/334744
[09:49] <will__> ActionParsnip: Manually, or through init.d?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> will__: lil script
[09:50] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:50] <will__> ActionParsnip: I can work out the script myself. Where would be the best place to put it so it runs on boot?
[09:51] <histo> anyone having issues with the archives right now?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> will__: i meant put the script in your gnome startup lot
[09:52] <will__> ActionParsnip: Where are those stored?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[09:52] <anonypus> How come the ubuntu zlib has t he gzopen64 symbol, but the vanilla zlib does not? This seems odd to me, as the vanilla libxml2 want this symbol. Maybe I'm missing something in the build process of one of the libs? (p.s. I can't accept linking with the native zlib of ubuntu(
[09:52] <azfira> gfdhg
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> will__: just put the script someplace (like ~/) and add it to startup ;)
[09:53] <will__> ActionParsnip: Ok. How would I make my script run as root?
[09:53] <ardchoille> ~/bin is good for that
[09:53] <adv> anyone can help me with openarena?
[09:53] <will__> Does Gnome run them as root automatically, or do I need to sudo somehow?
[09:53] <adv> i am on a lan and i create a server but the other pc doesnt find any servers under local ...
[09:53] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:53] <will__> !boot
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> will__: i'd put it in /usr/bin
[09:54] <adv> does ubuntu have firewall on by default?
[09:54] <will__> ActionParsnip: /usr/bin/initwifi or somesuch and it'll run at login as root?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | adv
[09:55] <vq> hai
[09:55] <ardchoille> adv: it has one but it's empty
[09:55] <Juliada> adv: no, but you can check iptables
[09:55] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> will__: yeah that should do it, i'd put sudo in the script
[09:55] <will__> ActionParsnip: Is there someone I can put it that means it'll get fired before Gnome starts? I'd like to have it run even if boot into a CLI
[09:55] <will__> Somewhere
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Juliada: it has iptables but its not configured but one is installed
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> will__: hmm, not sure there
[09:56] <crekarasu> how can i uninstall openssh-server ?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> will__: you could always manually fire it
[09:56] <will__> ActionParsnip: I'll look it up tomorrow. Thank you very much
[09:56] <will__> ActionParsnip: I could. Kind of annoying, though
[09:56] <Juliada> ActionParsnip: I just wabted to say that ))
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> crekarasu: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> will__: yeah true, look into how you can get it to fire
[09:57] <Bleupomme> I have a very curious situation with ubuntu server and a DELL server. I have connection problems to the server. When I type ifconfig on the console it displays a MAC address of the type aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d6. but when I type arp -a on a client it displays a mac address of type aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d3 for the IP of the server. Could anyone tell me what is going on?
[09:58] <adv> can anyone recommend some games?
[09:59] <ardchoille> !games
[09:59] <nbeebo> play windows game imo lol
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adv: frets on fire, doom 3, urban terror,
[09:59] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:59] <xyxxl> tux racer!
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adv: tux racing
[09:59] <xyxxl> *cough*
[09:59] <Juliada> adv: you can play many games under wine
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adv: if you websearch for loki installer you can find games that have a special installer so they run native
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> adv: ID software kicked out one for doom3, fun :D
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> adv: games run sweet in linux
[10:02] <chilli0> hi all
[10:03] <chilli0> i went to the Vitual box website and downlaod it for ubuntu 8.10,
[10:03] <chilli0> what do i do now?
[10:05] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[10:05] <adv> ActionParsnip: is it free?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> adv: is what free?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: avidemux is one option
[10:06] <adv> ActionParsnip: doom3
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> adv: the installing app is, the game isnt
[10:06] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; is it easy to use
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: not used it but i know of it
[10:06] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; i c....any idea how to use it
[10:07] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; how about kino
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: im sure theres guides around the place
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: its not something i do, but kino is another option
[10:08] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; okk
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: maybe someone else uses it, or try here later
[10:08] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; thankq
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> wb chilli0
[10:09] <chilli0> thanks
[10:09] <chilli0> how do i open vitual box in 8.10?
[10:09] <chilli0> its not in tools
[10:09] <joaopinto> chilli0, did you install it ?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: virtualbox is the command in terminal
[10:10] <DIFH-iceroot> chilli0: open the terminal and type Virt and then tab
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: make sure you are a member of vboxusers
[10:10] <chilli0> ActionParsnip:  why?
[10:10] <Jerusalem420> for about the last week, my computer has been freezing up and requiring reboot. i'm running gutsy. i was wondering if there are known issues or if its just something that's happened to my computer.
[10:10] <joaopinto> virtualbox does provide a menu action
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: or vbox won't run
[10:10] <chilli0> ok this is what i have done
[10:10] <rv> salut
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: well if he cant find it, cli will run it :)
[10:10] <chilli0> i installed vbox via  sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.0
[10:10] <chilli0>  , now what should i do now?
[10:11] <chilli0> when i did virt i got
[10:11] <chilli0> chilli@Prodigy:~$ Virt
[10:11] <chilli0> bash: Virt: command not found
[10:11] <Jerusalem420> anyone?
[10:11] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, sure, but the icon is on system tools, if he can't find it, the app is not installed :)
[10:11] <DIFH-iceroot> chilli0: tab
[10:11] <chilli0> DIFH-iceroot:  ok
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: sudo adduser <your user name> vboxusers
[10:12] <Jerusalem420> ok. i'll try again another time. peace all
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: well he said he's installed it with apt-get so it must be in
[10:12] <chilli0> thanks DIFH-iceroot
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: you can tab complete commands and file names in linux/bsd just like names in here
[10:12] <chilli0> cool
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: also handles spaces in filenames too :D
[10:13] <joaopinto> chilli0, what happens when you run "VirtualBox" on the terminal ?
[10:15] <chilli0> i got it working all
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: sweet
[10:15] <adv> is there a game like street fighter?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: dont forget to set the correct OS when you create the box so you get the right guest additions
[10:15] <ikonia> adv not that I'm aware of
[10:15] <ikonia> adv: if you want games, a console or windows is a better option
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> adv: you could emulate if you own the original cartridge
[10:16] <chilli0> i added it
[10:16] <adv> no i want smth like it but more modern
[10:16] <adv> all i can find is FPS
[10:16] <ikonia> adv: games are limited on linux
[10:16] <joaopinto> adv, fighting games are not very popular on linux
[10:17] <DIFH-iceroot> ikonia: games like street fighter are limited on windows too
[10:17] <adv> hm whatever else except fps
[10:17] <adv> is there?
[10:17] <adv> any
[10:17] <ikonia> DIFH-iceroot I didn't say they wheren't I suggested a console or windows for "games"
[10:17] <joaopinto> adv, yes, a lot, RPG, Logic, etc
[10:17] <joaopinto> adv, just check the games section on the package manager
[10:17] <DIFH-iceroot> !games | adv
[10:18] <adv> that is fun to play on LAN with friends?
[10:18] <joaopinto> adv, Enemy Territory
[10:18] <DIFH-iceroot> adv: left4dead
[10:18] <joaopinto> DIFH-iceroot, that's a linux game ?
[10:18] <DIFH-iceroot> joaopinto: wine runs it fine
[10:18] <joaopinto> DIFH-iceroot, ah :P
[10:21] <joaopinto> adv, there are also some nice worms clones, like hedgewars and wormux, I don't know about their lan support
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> joachimATjku, adv yeah those have lan support
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, what sort of spec have you got?
[10:27] <woodoo> hello
[10:27] <adv> Paddy_EIRE: what do you mean?
[10:27] <chanux_> woodoo, hello
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, hardware specs
[10:27] <adv> Paddy_EIRE: pentium3 512ram
[10:28] <g33k_gir1> i can't get firefox to launch from the applications menu -- I have to launch it from a terminal. any ideas?
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, some of these are excellent fun with a couple of friends in a lan :) http://www.playdeb.net/
[10:29] <woodoo> you run it in terminal as root?
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, also this is becoming very popular lately http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[10:29] <adv> Paddy_EIRE: thank you!
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> sure no probs :)
[10:29] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, can you get from Run application box? Alt-E2?
[10:30] <g33k_gir1> chanux_:  yes
[10:30] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, sorry, Alt-F2 and type in firefox.
[10:31] <g33k_gir1> chanux_:  yeah, I figured thats what you meant :) yes it works that waty
[10:31] <holst> hi! I have a problem with if-up.d/* scripts not being executed
[10:31] <holst> under any circumstances
[10:31] <joaopinto> it should work from the menu, it's executed the same way
[10:31] <ikonia> holst what makes you think they are not
[10:31] <holst> and I *NEED* this working
[10:31] <holst> ikonia: I am 100% sure they are not
[10:31] <ikonia> holst why ?
[10:31] <holst> because one of my scripts should build openafs.ko
[10:32] <chanux_> maybe the link is broken
[10:32] <holst> and it doesnt
[10:32] <woodoo> how to install QIP2005 with wine?
[10:32] <ikonia> holst those scripts don't build any of those files
[10:32] <cowbud> woodoo: check the wine site
[10:32] <ikonia> holst I ask again, how do you know they are not being executed
[10:32] <Paddy_EIRE> !wine | woodoo
[10:32] <cowbud> they probably have good instructions
[10:32] <holst> ikonia: because If I throw out this damn NetworkManager it works
[10:32] <woodoo> it's some error while installing
[10:32] <cowbud> I wish there was a !doitprivate | Paddy
[10:32] <cowbud> does the channel really need to see that spam all the time?
[10:33] <ikonia> holst that doesn't prove they are not being executed
[10:33] <g33k_gir1> i don't know if this helps -- but it didn't work in KDE either, and since synaptic/adept updated firefox to 3.0, I don't have the little FF icon in the menu either (just the blank generic program icon)
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> cowbud, depends on your irc client
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> I dont see it here
[10:33] <cowbud> Paddy_EIRE: uhh if you say something in the channel I really hope my irc client shows me it
[10:33] <holst> ikonia: OK so instead of being academic about it - how do we fix this problem?
[10:33] <ikonia> holst well, I want to understand why your certain they are not being executed
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> cowbud, heh.. why is that?
[10:33] <ikonia> holst: as that may not be the problem
[10:33] <joaopinto> g33k_gir1, your firefox launcher must be broken, you are not expected to have a generic, but the default one with the firefox icon
[10:34] <holst> ikonia: I cannot observe that they are being executed - so I belive that they are not being executed
[10:34] <cowbud> Paddy_EIRE: cause if you don't wnat everyone to see that is what privmsg is for
[10:34] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, g33k_gir1 can you het Fx from that generic Icon?
[10:34] <cowbud> Paddy_EIRE: how do you have xchat configured to not show you that? Through an extra script?
[10:34] <ikonia> holst stick in a error debug line, like touch /var/tmp/_it_worked and test it ?
[10:34] <Paddy_EIRE> cowbud, why are you telling me about pm's
[10:34] <bimberi> !hi > cowbud
[10:34] <joaopinto> g33k_gir1, check that you have an /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop file
[10:34] <bimberi> cowbud: is that what you mean?
[10:34] <cowbud> bimberi: yep
[10:34] <cowbud> way better
[10:35] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: sorry, what?
[10:35] <cowbud> except the fact that ubottu bot says please see my private message
[10:35] <cowbud> to everyone..
[10:35] <g33k_gir1> joaopinto: yes, I have a firefox.desktop
[10:35] <cowbud> ikonia: btw good call on the debug line I was waiting for that suggestion
[10:36] <bimberi> cowbud: it used to not do so, but that confused a lot of people too
[10:36] <cowbud> bimberi: yeah I mean I can kinda see it, but it is also a bit unfortunate
[10:36] <ikonia> cowbud where are the scripts kept, I can't see them on my ubuntu box
[10:36] <joaopinto> and you don't get the regular icon on the Internet menu section ?
[10:36] <cowbud> ikonia: /etc/network
[10:36] <ikonia> cowbud: oops, not you, sorry, I meant that for holst
[10:36] <mars__> hi
[10:36] <ikonia> cowbud ahh, I'd not put the - make in the fine
[10:36] <chanux_> g33k_gir1,can you fet Firefox from that generic Icon you mentioned before?
[10:36] <ikonia> din
[10:36] <ikonia> find
[10:37] <cowbud> yeah gotcha :)
[10:37] <mars__> i use ubuntu on a macbook (old white one -- not macbook pro). sometimes i have issues with the numblock.
[10:38] <cowbud> does ubuntu even do ppc anymore?
[10:38] <ikonia> community support
[10:38] <mars__> when i use a keyboard everything works as expected, but if i forget to turn off the numblock and use my laptop in the train (no keyboard) i cannot type.
[10:38] <cowbud> see and what did I do
[10:38] <mars__> this is really annoying. anyone has a hint for me?
[10:38] <cowbud>  .msg ubottu ppc :)
[10:38] <cowbud> perfect
[10:38] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: no, thats the item in the application menu -- I get a little window saying "starting firefox web browser" and then it quietly disappears
[10:39] <mars__> cowbud: this is no ppc ;) its intel thus x386
[10:39] <cowbud> mars__: im sure there is a command line to shut off numlock jus tset a cronjob for that :)
[10:39] <cowbud> mars__: uh  if you have an old mac computer it is probably ppc ;)
[10:39] <napnap> join #samba
[10:39] <napnap> huhu
[10:39] <napnap> so..bye
[10:39] <mars__> no there is a new seris which is silver ;)
[10:40] <mars__> cowbud: its just 1 year old ;)
[10:40] <cowbud> huh interestnig
[10:40] <cowbud> well at any rate my comment still stands :) set a cronjob :)
[10:40] <ikonia> mars__ the silver ones are macbook pro's
[10:40] <mars__> cowbud: i guess that will work
[10:40] <ikonia> mars__: there are white/black intel ones, and white ppc ones also
[10:40] <Paddy_EIRE> mars__, normally on PC anyway you can set the numlock key either on or off at boot time in the bios
[10:40] <mars__> ikonia: no... please consult www.apple.com ;)
[10:41] <ikonia> mars__ he said it was an "old" one
[10:41] <ikonia> mars__: the new ones on that site are less then 4 months old
[10:41] <holst> oh,
[10:41] <kelen> BYE
[10:41] <holst> so NetworkManager defines ADDRFAM as NetworkManger_
[10:41] <holst> oh, oh!
[10:41] <mars__> ikonia: yes i know i just wanted to point out i have an old (normal) macbook which is white. the new ones are silver
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, if its a year old then it certainly aint PPC
[10:42] <holst> i didnt know that this was a IP protocol
[10:42] <mars__> whatever i got the solution ;)
[10:42] <holst> my misstake
[10:42] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE I didn't say it was a ppc, I said there are intel and ppm versions,
[10:42] <holst> fucking retartded shit this pockemon crap...
[10:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, ppm?
[10:43] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: ppc sorry
[10:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, ah.. colour wise
[10:44] <mars__> for the log: there is a great package numlockx which can deactivate the numlockstatus with: numlockx off
[10:44] <mars__> ;)
[10:47] <cowbud> there ya go
[10:47] <jtag> I'm looking for a diary program, and It's very nice if it can encode my texts. anybody know something?
[10:47] <tensop-> Anyone here knowledgable with pam_mount?
[10:47] <tensop-> getting this issue - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6335879&postcount=2
[10:47] <Paddy_EIRE> jtag, a text editor and some encryption... gedit has a plugin for that as well
[10:48] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, but still you can get it from CLI? weird.
[10:48] <tensop-> Basicly, trying to mount an SMB share via pam_mount on logon, pam spams out saying "mount: special device stdhome does not exist" when running pam
[10:49] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: i found the problem
[10:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> im trying to patch mah wireless driver, everything fine untill i tried the make command, i get 2 errors
[10:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> make: Entering an unknown directory
[10:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-server/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:50] <ikonia> DJ_HaMsTa your kernel is not called 2.6.24-22-server
[10:50] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, why don't you share? :D
[10:50] <DJ_HaMsTa> yes it is
[10:50] <foloex> hello
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> jtag, zim desktop wiki is very nice too... although I know its not specifically what you are looking for and I am unsure about encryption with zim
[10:50] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: the menu command had ksystray (or something) in front of the path to FF. I just edited it to read /usr/bin/firefox and now it works, and I have the icon too. weird though, I tried that in KDE and it didn't work. glad I made the switch back to gnome
[10:51] <foloex> does someone know how to manually mount a usb device by specifying its idproduct and idvendor ?
[10:51] <jtag> Paddy_EIRE: zim is nice, but has no encryption.
[10:51] <balle_> i need a temporary internet connection for my non-wireless labtop, can i just connect it through an ethernet cable to another wireless labtop?
[10:51] <joaopinto> foloex, you mount devices based on their /dev/ naming, not on the ipdroducts/vendores
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> jtag, what about encrypting the folder where Zim stored the files?
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> *stores
[10:52] <balle_> i need a temporary internet connection for my non-wireless labtop, can i just connect it through an ethernet cable another, wireless labtop?
[10:52] <joaopinto> foloex, those id products/vendores are used by the kernel/drivers instead
[10:52] <cowbud> he migh tmean uuid ;)
[10:52] <cowbud> !uuid
[10:52] <cowbud> WHAT
[10:52] <cowbud> powa!
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> !ics | balle_
[10:52] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, sounds like you have been using KDE & then installed Gnome, then there may be some clashes :)
[10:52] <ikonia> balle_ no, you'll need a cross-overcable, and some for of connection sharing or proxy on the laptop
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, cross over cable is not required
[10:52] <cowbud> ikonia: you mean like NAT/ipforwarding?
[10:53] <balle_> ikonia: thx
[10:53] <cowbud> simple as two shakes
[10:53] <balle_> Paddy: great thx i'll check it out
[10:53] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: why doesn't he need a cross over ?
[10:53] <ikonia> cowbud: that would work fine
[10:53] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, I'm a KDE fan using gnome for now. lazy g33ks ;)
[10:53] <DJones> Is anybody aware of a file converter which can convert open e-books (.opf filetype) into other formats
[10:53] <\slash> hey guys whats a good dvd burning application ?
[10:53] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, auto switching has been around for quite a number of years now... even the 360 does it
[10:53] <joaopinto> !burning | \slash
[10:53] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE my new laptop doesn't do it
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, and considering I have not required one to do the same thing
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, are you certain
[10:54] <\slash> im on gnome
[10:54] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: so laptop to lapt top direct connection your saying is picked up by auto switching
[10:54] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: %105
[10:54] <\slash> which do u guys recommend?
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, that is kinda like  standard now
[10:54] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: laptop and desktop couldn't do it come to think of it, not tried it with any other kit
[10:54] <luddite> how do i turn samba on for file sharing in gnome/8.10?
[10:55] <chanux_> \slash, I personally like k3b, I've used brasero & it's good to go too.
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, ah... well thats odd...  my desktop and laptop both do it :/
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> luddite, right click the directory you are looking to share and select share
[10:55] <\slash> chanux im on gnome does that affect it?
[10:56] <Paddy_EIRE> luddite, "sharing options" rather
[10:56] <chanux_> \slash, do you any other KDE s/w now?
[10:56] <DJones> \slash: I prefer k3b and use gnome, I don't have any problems with it
[10:56] <chanux_> \slash, do you use any other KDE s/w now?
[10:56] <\slash> no
[10:56] <\slash> i doubt it
[10:56] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: well, I absolutely couldn't stand KDE 4, and then I started having weird crashing issues (which I blamed on KDE, turns out it was faulty RAM), so I followed the instructions provided by !puregnome
[10:57] <lodder> I installed freenx but after connecting a few times I get this error: Loop: PANIC! Call to bind failed for TCP port 5000. Error is 98 'Address already in use'. <-- how could this be solved?
[10:57] <cowbud> lodder: was it already running?
[10:57] <luddite> Paddy_EIRE - thanks - i did that- it says "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running."
[10:57] <cowbud> ps auxww | grep <some process like nx>
[10:57] <lodder> cowbud: yes it's running
[10:58] <cowbud> lodder: are you connecting locally to a port that is exporting your local X?
[10:58] <lodder> cowbud: any more ideas
[10:58] <tarelerulz> What is the easyest way to share files between to ubuntu computers ?  I have router and they are connect ,but samba never seems to work.
[10:58] <lodder> cowbud: how do you mean i have installed it and then use the client
[10:58] <cowbud> lodder: it sounds like you are trying to connect to it within the session from that error
[10:58] <lodder> the box i'm connecting to is a xen domU without screen
[10:59] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, ftp/sftp/http
[10:59] <cowbud> sftp baby
[10:59] <lodder> well the error I get is when I connect
[10:59] <bimberi> !info unison | tarelerulz
[10:59] <joaopinto> samba is for interoperability with windows
[10:59] <cowbud> bimberi: isn't that just a gloried rsync?
[10:59] <cowbud> +f
[11:00] <cowbud> joakim-work: or mac or anything that uses samba..
[11:00] <bimberi> cowbud: yes, but handles two-way sync quite nicely
[11:00] <cowbud> joaopinto ^^
[11:00] <cowbud> bimberi: hrmm
[11:00] <hanyou> does anyone have time for a total ubuntu noob?
[11:00] <cowbud> bimberi: makes me think of delta copy god what a nightmare to setup
[11:01] <tarelerulz> Samba was good when I had windows ,but never seem to config it right.   The share tab  seem to make it easy ,but it never works.  What do you all use.
[11:01] <joaopinto> !anyone | hanyou
[11:01] <cowbud> tarelerulz: it works great here..but if I don't have windows scp is a good alternative
[11:01] <mib_iy9oz3> hello
[11:02] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, do you want do to authenticated sharing or anonymous sharing ?
[11:02] <hanyou> how can i accest yast?
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> someone know where ubuntu log all boot messages?
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> example:
[11:02] <cowbud> hanyou: yast is for suse
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> * running local boot scripts [ok]
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> ecc..
[11:02] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: /var/log/*
[11:02] <joaopinto> hanyou, yast is a suse tool, there is no yast on ubuntu
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> lodder, check out these results http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=52878017
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> cowbud: what file ?
[11:02] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: use grep
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> cowbud: i dont found it.
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> ·........
[11:02] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: hwat are you trying to find out?
[11:02] <joaopinto> hanyou, most settings on ubuntu are available from the System menu
[11:02] <hanyou> then how do i install vga drivers on ubuntu..or rather how do i install anything on ubuntu?
[11:03] <goldmetal> is
[11:03] <mib_iy9oz3> cowbud: i'd like know where ubuntu save boot log.
[11:03] <mib_iy9oz3> same
[11:03] <mib_iy9oz3> * Staring periodic command sheduler crond [ok] ecc
[11:03] <joaopinto> hanyou, Applications , Add/Remove
[11:03] <tarelerulz> joaopinto , anonymous sharing  like I did with windows.  Just click on share fold and see the files copy them edit so on .  I hate loging in. It is just me getting at the files
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hanyou, you should research things a little more before coming in here for education.. this is a support channel
[11:03] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: define boot log, like sysinit/upstart starting I don't htink it logs that
[11:03] <joaopinto> not for the vga drivers, which are installed by default
[11:03] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: you have daemon.log which shows daemons starting which is mostly what  upkeep does
[11:03] <cowbud> but other than that..
[11:03] <kidbuntu> having a problem.. i'm unable to mount my other harddisk but i can see them
[11:04] <cowbud> upkeep/upstart
[11:04] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, you can use anonymous ftp for that
[11:04] <hanyou> i got this notification telling me that i need to install vga drivers
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !graphics | hanyou
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[11:04] <cowbud> boomer
[11:04] <pvh_sa> does anyone know of a "visual patch" utility? i.e. i've got a patch, and i'd like to see some illustration of what is going to be patched by this patch....
[11:04] <hanyou> i can select it from a list, press activate and nothing seems to be happening
[11:04] <cowbud> pvh_sa: meld baby
[11:05] <cowbud> it's awesome
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> hanyou, which card do you have?
[11:05] <cowbud> !meld
[11:05] <hanyou> 9600gt
[11:05] <cowbud> for the birds you ubottu
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> hanyou, just a moment
[11:05] <cowbud> pvh_sa: apt-cache show meld
[11:06] <mib_iy9oz3> so ?
[11:06] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: you still have yet to really define what you want to know...I told you daemon.log but as far as "starting local scripts OK" ubuntu doesn't log that
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !nvidia | hanyou
[11:06] <cowbud> it is typically better if you ask what you want instead of try to ask the method that you are attempting to do what you want
[11:06] <lodder> thx Paddy_EIRE
[11:06] <tarelerulz>  joaopinto, here is what I want to do ,  play movie on my other computer ,  copy the files over if I need to , maybe delete files and put files over.  When  samba works it did all that fine,but for some reason It don't plus samba has like 90 billion options .
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> lodder, sure thing
[11:07] <lodder> Paddy_EIRE: but what has it to do with freenx
[11:07] <lodder> And how do you check what program is using a port
[11:08] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, well, maybe you should keep with samba :P
[11:09] <cowbud> lodder: lsof -Pni
[11:09] <bimberi> lodder: sudo netstat -plunt
[11:09] <joaopinto> lodder, sudo fuser -n tcp 80
[11:09] <kidbuntu> help please can't mount IDE disk
[11:09] <joaopinto> 80 was the port on my example, the returned output is the pid
[11:09] <cowbud> or netstat of course :)
[11:10]  * bimberi finds 'plunt' easy to remember :)
[11:10] <tarelerulz>  joaopinto, I would ,but it never seem to work . just thought there must be more easy way.   it is for windows sharing ,but never read anything about doing just that with it .
[11:10] <jschall> where is the intrepid wallpaper stored?
[11:10] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, samba is easy, once you understand it :P
[11:10] <cowbud> bimberi: haha exactly what I just noted :) I learned Pni a long time ago and always wanted to remember netstats equiv
[11:10] <tensop-> getting this issue - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6335879&postcount=2 Basicly, trying to mount an SMB share via pam_mount on logon, pam spams out saying "mount: special device stdhome does not exist" when running pam
[11:11] <kidbuntu> help please can't mount IDE disk
[11:11] <bimberi> jschall: /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:11] <cowbud> kidbuntu: what command are you trying?
[11:12] <kidbuntu> cowbud: before i can mount it.. then suddenly i cant anymore
[11:12] <mountaindew> Hi all, I have been using Ubuntu 8.10 and vlc to watch mp4 movies with no problem, but lately I have been having problem, vlc seems to show only blue screen and sound but nothing else, same case with totem player, the mp4 file seems to play ok on xp.
[11:12] <cowbud> kidbuntu: im guessing vfat, does dmesg say something about it not being removed cleanly?
[11:12] <kidbuntu> cowbud: no message at all.
[11:12] <ikonia> mountaindew sounds like you've not got the right codecs on linux
[11:13] <kidbuntu> cowbud: didnt do anything.. all of my other disk on my computer i can't open it with ubuntu
[11:13] <mountaindew> totem asked me to install the codecs (2 choices) and I installed both.
[11:13] <cowbud> kidbuntu: its a fat32 drive right?
[11:13] <ikonia> mountaindew maybe they are not compatible, what was the movies encoded with
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> mountaindew, do you have compiz (desktop effects) enabled?
[11:13] <cowbud> kidbuntu: and you didn't answer my first question..
[11:13] <kidbuntu> cowbud: yes
[11:14] <cowbud> kidbuntu: how are you trying to mount it
[11:14] <Jaguar48h> My ubunto doesn't identify one of my partitions(ntfs) on startup, what can i do ?
[11:14] <mountaindew> I think I have compiz, because I didn't change anything and I think it is enabled by default
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | Jaguar48h
[11:14] <kidbuntu> cowbud: double clicking or choosing mount on right clicks
[11:14] <cowbud> !fstab
[11:14] <cowbud> kidbuntu: and what does it say?
[11:14] <tarelerulz>  joaopinto,  say one  wanted to share ntfs partition or maybe the whole hard drive it is on .  I have try that a lot never seem to work that easy like add fold in home .   Never seen any thing talk about how to do that.
[11:14] <pl4nkton> hai
[11:15] <mountaindew> how do I disable compiz?
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: nothing at all
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: dont know how to mount it by terminal
[11:15] <cowbud> kidbuntu: this is a usb drive or an IDE connected drive?
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: IDE
[11:15] <cowbud> kidbuntu: well is it a partition on your same root drive?
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> mountaindew, you may need to change the video output in your movie player if you are using effects
[11:15] <cowbud> or do you not know?
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: connected and functioning... seperate hard drives
[11:16] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, you just need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:16] <cowbud> kidbuntu: try sude fdisk -l | grep -i fat
[11:16] <cowbud> kidbuntu: try sudo fdisk -l | grep -i fat
[11:16] <mountaindew> let me try
[11:17] <kidbuntu> cowbud: here are the results
[11:17] <kidbuntu> cowbud: /dev/sdc1   *           1        9729    78148161    b  W95 FAT32
[11:17] <kidbuntu> /dev/sdi1               1        1212     7714816    b  W95 FAT32
[11:17] <PixelBlur> Anyone know of a good daemon manager with a good gui?
[11:18] <cowbud> kidbuntu: alright so I assume if you do a 'df' (without ' ' )  you'll see one of those in that list?
[11:18] <tarelerulz> joaopinto,  like  I do understand some ,but  what options you need for  share you don't want to  log into
[11:18] <cowbud> kidbuntu: and the other is the one you want to mount..
[11:18] <kidbuntu> cowbud: both actually
[11:18] <cowbud> kidbuntu: alright and they have names in nautilus, the application where you are right clicking and saying mount..
[11:19] <kidbuntu> cowbud: yes
[11:19] <cowbud> kidbuntu: so what are the names? one is your main windows drive and another is probably a download drive/extra storage drive
[11:20] <kidbuntu> cowbud: "IDE STORAGE" then the other is "Media files"
[11:20] <cowbud> kidbuntu: alright try this pmount /dev/sdc1 /media/IDE\ STORAGE
[11:21] <koopee> I updated to intrepid yesterday. Should the hdaps work in the 8.10 release?
[11:21] <koopee> I have IBM X40 and i keep getting "FATAL: Error inserting hdaps (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hdaps.ko): No such device or address"
[11:21] <koopee> if I try to modprobe hdaps
[11:22] <kidbuntu> cowbud: all it did was show some help options
[11:22] <mountaindew> apparently this time round it was playing fine, and I made it full screen and still fine, but then I made it into window again and no display, fullscreen again and the movie shows for a split second and then blank again.
[11:22] <cowbud> kidbuntu: message me it..
[11:23] <kidbuntu> cowbud: it has several results. like...  option "-r, -w, -s"" and lots of stuff that i'm not allowed to paste such to many results here
[11:23] <cowbud> kidbuntu: join #kidbuntu
[11:28] <\slash> !torrent
[11:29] <\slash> aw no bitlord ? :(
[11:30] <adv> how can i specify where tar spits the contents?
[11:30] <Tyrath> is there anyway to stop it changing ~ to /home/<user> when you click tab in bash ?
[11:31] <Tyrath> i looked throughout the .bash files but couldn't find the line that said it
[11:31] <digitalvectorz> heya.  anyone know how to read memory pages in regards to kernal mm?
[11:32] <gt_> he
[11:33] <kop> ?
[11:33] <gt_> !_!
[11:34] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: I don't know exactly what you're asking. But if you want to read files in shell you can use cat
[11:34] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: personally I like to pipe cat files into less as it allows me to scroll: ie, cat <filename> | less
[11:34] <digitalvectorz> Tyrath: actually, i want to read all the files currently in memory
[11:34] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: ps ?
[11:35] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: or aux
[11:35] <digitalvectorz> Tyrath: not processes
[11:35] <Tyrath> sigterm: or ax
[11:35] <bjm> hello à touts le monde j'ai un petit problème avec ma webcam "Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:627b Microdia" quelqu'un peut il maider!!! merci
[11:35] <digitalvectorz> Tyrath: I want to read the raw data in memory
[11:35] <Tyrath> !fr | bjm
[11:35] <kop> Can anyone point me to a working Xorg.conf for  intrepid/matrox-g450 dual head extended desktop ?
[11:35] <bjm> ok
[11:38] <Tyrath> kop: /etc/X11/xorg.conf - that's the only xorg.conf file I know
[11:38] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz, you mean like the stuff in /dev/kmem ?
[11:38] <Tyrath> kop: the graphics drivers are dependant on the xorg.conf file, not the other way around
[11:39] <\slash> !dvdripper
[11:39] <oreomike> digitalvectorz: I think that the Kernel won't allow you to read all memory.  That'd be a segment violation, no?
[11:39] <Tyrath> kop: what I'm trying to say it there's one xorg.conf file that will contain the settings for your graphics drivers
[11:39] <digitalvectorz> oreomike: I don't know...i'm just starting this journey :-P
[11:40] <Tyrath> does ~ convert to /home/<user> for other people in shell when they hit tab?
[11:40] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: how would i go about viewing the contents of /dev/kmem ?
[11:40] <joaopinto> Tyrath, with bash, yes
[11:40] <smorg> Tyrath: yep
[11:40] <Tyrath> joaopinto: any way around it?
[11:40] <Tyrath> it's just annoying
[11:40] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: note* cat /dev/kmem => Bad Address
[11:40] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz: so yeah, then /dev/mem is your friend
[11:40] <Tyrath> having the extra two slashes confuses me
[11:41] <Tyrath> isn't there like a ls -l /dev/kmem or something command that lets you know the memory
[11:41] <joaopinto> Tyrath, that is a standard feature on the unix shell, years old, I am not sure bash provides an option to disable, you will need to read the bash man :P
[11:41] <Tyrath> or fd /dev/mem
[11:41] <digitalvectorz> ahh, there we go.../dev/mem
[11:42] <joaopinto> Tyrath, /proc/meminfo ?
[11:42] <Tyrath> actally scrap the first thing i said
[11:42] <smorg> ello. Does the ubuntu installer know how to handle manual partitioning as far as grub and copying the kernel image? I'm thinking of doing it gentoo style with boot,swap,root
[11:42] <smorg> (kubuntu actually)
[11:42] <Tyrath> joaopinto: it strikes me as bizarre that it's not in .bashrc
[11:42] <badawi> vnstat
[11:42] <joaopinto> smorg, it allows you to do manual partitioning, as for the kernel image copying, no, that is part of the regular package installing process
[11:42] <badawi> sorry meant vmstat
[11:42] <Tyrath> like where on earth does bash read it's data from?
[11:43] <joaopinto> Tyrath, .bashrc is just an example fie, you will not see there the tons of bash options :)
[11:43] <joaopinto> file
[11:43] <joaopinto> Tyrath, man bash
[11:43] <Tyrath> joaopinto: example file? i've written a lot of settings into .bashrc, and they've held
[11:44] <joaopinto> Tyrath, there is a section on the man named, Tilde Expansion
[11:44] <Tyrath> well not technically, i try to avoid .bashrc and use external files but still
[11:44] <joaopinto> Tyrath, I mean, it does not contain all the options that you have available on bash
[11:44] <Tyrath> joaopinto: i'll have a look, thanks
[11:44] <smorg> hm. i'll give it a try and see how it works
[11:45] <Tyrath> /etc/profile looks like the go
[11:45] <Tyrath> i'll see what's there
[11:45] <joaopinto> Tyrath, /etc/profile is system wide, while .bashrc is user wide
[11:45] <joaopinto> apart of that, they allow you the same level of customization
[11:45] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:45] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz, write a program to read it? what specifically are you looking for in memory?
[11:46] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:46] <FloodBot3> Zithara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: nothing in particular.  just toying around
[11:46] <MalMen> hello, every time i start my firefox they start in offline mode.. i am connect to a usb 3G card, and my eth0 is offline, i think the problem is that... eth0 is offline, then firefox thinks not have internet.. how can i resolve my situation ? i want start firefox in normal mode every time i start it
[11:47] <joaopinto> digitalvectorz, you will need root privileges for that
[11:47] <smorg> Ah i see. under advanced it lets you assign (hd0) or whatever you'd like as boot partition... :-)
[11:47] <digitalvectorz> joaopinto: i have root privs..it's my system :-P
[11:47] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz, ok then... toy around with "open()" and "read()" in your favourite language ;)
[11:48] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: i've been...it's quite interesting, watching the OS work from ground lvl
[11:48] <joaopinto> digitalvectorz, here is a sample: http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5143153
[11:48] <Tyrath> ahhhh. i think i've hit the jackpot /etc/bash_completion
[11:48] <tarelerulz> There is where I am lost , I  read what setting I should have for smbshares ,  edit the file and restarted samba ,but  They don't even see other now.
[11:48] <gnusar> is there a solution for using icq on ubuntu messengers yet?
[11:48] <joaopinto> Typhoon, that is for tab completion
[11:48] <Kohvihoor> is there a decent client, that supports ms exchange, that is not evolution?
[11:49] <joaopinto> ops, was Tyrath
[11:49] <digitalvectorz> thanks joaopinto
[11:49] <joaopinto> Tyrath, weren't you looking for ~ ?
[11:49] <Tyrath> joaopinto: I was
[11:49] <Tyrath> joaopinto: but I think it's in there
[11:49] <Tyrath> joaopinto: line 347
[11:50] <joaopinto> Tyrath, tab completion and tilde expansion are different functions (I guess)
[11:50] <Tyrath> joaopinto: ah. just when I click tab it seems to give the directory
[11:51] <Tyrath> i prefer to think of ~ as simply that. /home/chris is overly complicated
[11:51] <Tyrath> i mean how often does one type /home/<user> when they can simply type ~
[11:51] <Tyrath> it's such a pointless autocompletion
[11:51] <Kohvihoor> all the time. :(
[11:52] <Tyrath> man, i can't read these files....
[11:53] <GnuBoi> guys, how to make xine backend for totem
[11:53] <Tyrath> i get the if statements and that's about it
[11:53] <Tyrath> if and fi indicate boundaries for if statements
[11:53] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:53] <Tyrath> then elif is else if
[11:53] <joaopinto> Tyrath, that is a generic directory autocompletion, it does not matter if you are browsing  /home or /xpto
[11:53] <Tyrath> but apart from that...
[11:53] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:53] <whynot> hello guys
[11:53] <Tyrath> joaopinto: so is that not what I'm looking for
[11:54] <Tyrath> joaopinto: cause it says this function expands tildes in pathnames
[11:54] <whynot> Can I clone the whole hard drive (windows 2000 and ubuntu) to another one with acronis trueimage 7?
[11:54] <Tyrath> joaopinto: so say I commented that whole thing out...
[11:54] <Tyrath> I wonder what the repercussion would be...
[11:54] <joaopinto> Tyrath, there is a "This function performs file and directory completion. It's better than" on the file :)
[11:55] <joaopinto> whynot, why not use an open source alternative like partimage ?
[11:55] <whynot> partimage is such as trueimage?
[11:55] <Tyrath> joaopinto: isn't it just /etc/bash_completion
[11:56] <whynot> I haven't heard about it....I need some tip.
[11:56] <whynot> ok.  I'll check it out.
[11:56] <joaopinto> whynot, it's a partition image copy utility, never used trueimage
[11:56] <sivaji> how to increase the monitor refresh rate ?
[11:56] <koshar1> whynot i use partimage, and you prolly havnt heard of it as they dont have a big advertising budget
[11:57] <whynot> Actually, I'm used to trueimage.  That's all why I'm asking if trueimage enables me to clone linux.
[11:57] <koshar1> whynot however its very good, extremely fast and not overly complex, i think the best way to use it is in the form of a live disk lie gparted live.
[11:57] <BoltClock> how do i setup mono 2.0.1 on my ubuntu hardy install?
[11:58] <koshar1> koshar1 i have never heard of trueimage either,
[11:58] <joaopinto> BoltClock, there are no 2.0 packages for hardy as far as I know
[11:58] <BoltClock> joaopinto: do i then have to compile from source?
[11:58] <joaopinto> BoltClock, I guess so
[11:58] <whynot> koshar1/yeah, I just succeeded to resize ubuntu swap partition with gparted live.
[11:59] <Tyrath> joaopinto: which file exectes /etc/bash_completion ?
[11:59] <kop> Tyrath: what I'm trying to say is I know where the file is and how to edit but what to change is another matter
[11:59] <kop> http://kopcicle.multiply.com/journal/item/8/Seeing_Double_
[11:59] <korb_br> someone could help me with flash 10 on firefox / gnome / ubuntu ?
[11:59] <korb_br> plugins list me shockwave 9.0 r999
[11:59] <fivetwentysix> I'm finally returning to linux!
[11:59] <korb_br> already installed flash 10 .deb with dpkg
[11:59] <koshar1> whynot psycocats has a good partimage guide with pics...
[11:59] <joaopinto> korb_br, have you uninstalled the flash9 plugin first ?
[11:59] <korb_br> but no results on firefox
[12:00] <korb_br> joaopinto me ajuda ai mano
[12:00] <joaopinto> korb_br, there is no flash 10 .deb. at least not an official one
[12:00] <joaopinto> !br | korb_br
[12:00] <kop> fivetwentysix: welcome back
[12:00] <korb_br> joaopinto i got it from adobes website
[12:00] <whynot> I'm doing google search. Thanks.
[12:00] <korb_br> joaopinto what do u suggest me ?
[12:00] <joaopinto> korb_br, did you uninstall the previous plugin from ubuntu ?
[12:00] <fivetwentysix> Is Ubuntu currently the most stable distribution of Linux out there in terms of hardware support, packages, community support?
[12:01] <joaopinto> !ot | fivetwentysix
[12:01] <korb_br> joaopinto tried apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:01] <joaopinto> fivetwentysix, that's a subjective question, not here :)
[12:01] <korb_br> joaopinto but no good
[12:01] <kop> as far as user input to keep it running , yes
[12:01] <joaopinto> korb_br, first you need to remove flashplugin-nonfree
[12:01] <BoltClock> joaopinto: mono's site mentions the package mono-2.0-devel, think its better to apt-get install that or compile?
[12:01] <Jaguar48h> plz , I get ERROR  404  when i run this "wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter"
[12:01] <fivetwentysix> Okay, well I was just wondering if Ubuntu would treat me better than Fedora...
[12:02] <korb_br> joaopinto already did that :(
[12:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> i did something retarded,  rm -rf /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl818x/rtl8187.ko
[12:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> how do i bring that driver back ?
[12:02] <joaopinto> BoltClock, if it's available on the repositories, apt-get it, if not, you will need to build form source
[12:02] <BoltClock> ok
[12:02] <kop> fivetwentysix: look at it this way if you were looking at installing Slackware I'd refer you to "professional help"
[12:02] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl818x/rtl8187.ko
[12:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> whats dpkg ?
[12:02] <joaopinto> to find the package that contained it
[12:03] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, it's the package management utility for debian/ubuntu systems
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> ah
[12:03] <koshar1> whynot http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage
[12:03] <fivetwentysix> kop: I doubt Slackware is harder to install then Gentoo, Gentoo gave me a brain tumour.
[12:03] <dumitru> what file manager for ubuntu do you use?
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> ty
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> me ?
[12:03] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, you will need to reinstall whatever package contains it
[12:03] <Jaguar48h> I need help
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> what do u mean ?
[12:03] <whynot> Partimage can move(for example) 20 Gb ubuntu hard drive into 80Gb harddrive just like Ghost or Trueimage?
[12:04] <kop> fivetwentysix: I use a variety of OS's here , each in it's own place for what it does best
[12:04] <joaopinto> whynot, yes it can, but the partition will have the original size, you will need to resize it later
[12:04] <cheni> hi
[12:04] <whynot> Thank you koshar1, I'll check that website.
[12:04] <dumitru> I used krusader, that normaly is for kde, but now I realised there is GNOME Commander
[12:04] <dumitru> but i don't know how to open a new tab in gnome Commander
[12:05] <dumitru> :(
[12:05] <dumitru> anyone?
[12:05] <cheni> is there any konwn problem about ati hd 3650 and ubuntu?
[12:05] <Jaguar48h> I tybe "cd
[12:05] <Jaguar48h> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter" in the shell but i get error 404 , plz help me ?
[12:05] <whynot> I like ubuntu alsa.  Mariah Carey = Make it happen.  It sounds great.
[12:05] <kop> fivetwentysix: If you happen to hear me beating my head on the desk repeatedly it really has nothing to do with ubuntu it's a hardware specific problem all to it's own
[12:05] <Zyfo> My owner / read|write permissions have been fucked up. After moving all my old data its owner got set as root. Also I need to do silly things like executing pidgin with sudo for it to work. How can I restore things to how they "should" be?
[12:05] <Pupeno> How do I select which screen is the primary when I have two?
[12:06] <kop> Zyfo: man chown
[12:07] <fivetwentysix> kop: Well the reason I'm switching back to Linux is directly related that I want to learn C from scratch. Windows just seems like such a messy environment to do it in.
[12:07] <Zyfo> kop: Thanks, I'll have a look at it. Which things ARE supposed to be owned by root only? Anything in my home dir at all?
[12:07] <joaopinto> Zyfo, if you have broken your system folders permissions the best solution is to reinstall or restore from a backup
[12:08] <kop> Zyfo: man chown  as in chown  <your user name here> /wtfever/file
[12:08] <fivetwentysix> Zyfo: Everything outside of home should be owned by root.
[12:08] <krasotka1> Знает ктонить хорошую программу для хранения паролей.. (про мозг я знаю , еще варианты....)
[12:08] <joaopinto> fivetwentysix, there are no major differences when using ANSI C between windows an linux, if your target platform is linux, then yes, you should keep with it
[12:08] <kop> fivetwentysix: other than data not linked to the user
[12:08] <joaopinto> !ru | krasotka1
[12:09] <lianimator> transmission likes to move my download location to my desktop.. even when the download is complete, it will download again on the desktop!
[12:09] <whynot> Once before, I failed to restore my hard drive with Ghost, so that I discarded ghost and tried acronis trueimage.  That's great program.
[12:09] <zeno> you know how in a folder how you can hit open all in tabs in firefox? is there a way to put a bookmark toolbar shortcut to open multiple tabs?
[12:09] <joaopinto> lianimator, file a bug report for it :P
[12:09] <kop> Ok I'll try this again .Can anyone point me to a working Xorg.conf for  intrepid/matrox-g450 dual head extended desktop ?
[12:09] <kop> http://kopcicle.multiply.com/journal/item/8/Seeing_Double_
[12:10] <zeno> lianimator: set the correct download location in prefrences then
[12:10] <henz> hello
[12:10] <zeno> lianimator: and move when finished
[12:10] <zeno> pref
[12:11] <dan_> does anyone know how to get sarg to log by active directory usernames instead of IP addresses?
[12:12] <zeno> dan_: run a script to convert the ips to adu?
[12:12] <ikonia> dan_ sarge is debian
[12:12] <zeno> sed 1 liner
[12:12] <dan_> ikonia: ?
[12:12] <lianimator> zeno: the destination is set to Desktop. what I don't understand is, why download again on the desktop when the original one is complete?
[12:12] <ikonia> dan_: did you not mean sarge ?
[12:13] <lianimator> zeno: looks like a bug or something. I'll report it then
[12:13] <must> um....
[12:13] <must> Do you know a PYTHON?
[12:13] <dan_> ikonia: no, sarg to report squid avtivity
[12:13] <must> it is a very strange language.
[12:13] <ikonia> dan_: apologies my mistake
[12:13] <zeno> must: eh its really normal
[12:13] <zeno> must: for strange try homespring, haskell, prologue etc =p
[12:14] <must> oh.
[12:14] <must> i see.
[12:14] <whynot> I'm leaving to read the partimage website. Thanks again.
[12:14] <must> umm.. where are you from?
[12:14] <Zyfo> kop: thanks, worked :)
[12:14] <must> i'm from a republic of korea.
[12:14] <zeno> must: usa
[12:14] <zeno> must: you play baduk?
[12:14] <ikonia> macro_: this isn't a chat channel, its support only please
[12:14] <MiladKhajavi> How can I create an Ubuntu repository similar to package.ubuntu.com repository, with pool directory?
[12:15] <dAnjou> MiladKhajavi, try launchpad
[12:15] <must> yes!
[12:15] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, that question is best answered on one of the tutorials for creating an APT repository, best to google for it
[12:15] <ikonia> MiladKhajavi mirror the repo
[12:15] <must> baduk is very exciting!
[12:15] <must> :p
[12:15] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, I am assuming you want a repository with your own packages
[12:15] <must> do you play omok?
[12:16] <ikonia> must, this is a support channel only please
[12:16] <must> ok, i see.
[12:16] <zeno> must: nope im 3d at baduk tho, a site for a cool variant of it (batoo.org) opens in a few days
[12:16] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: I want to download all i386 package of 8.10
[12:16] <zeno> whats omok
[12:16] <zeno> MiladKhajavi: ALL of them?
[12:16] <MiladKhajavi> then I want to create DVD repository of ubuntu 8.10
[12:16] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, so you actually want a mirror, you just need to use a mirroring tool and a web or ftp service
[12:17] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: what is the mirror? can you give me a key to search through google?
[12:17] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460
[12:17] <lianimator> any recommendations for bittorrent program other than transmission?
[12:18] <joaopinto> lianimator, deluge
[12:18] <lianimator> joaopinto: I don't understand why deluge got replaced by transmission as the default.
[12:18] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: I can just download repo from windows not linux
[12:19] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, then I can't help you, you will need windows help, not here
[12:19] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: where can I find my answer, can u lead me?
[12:19] <ikonia> MiladKhajavi: ##windows
[12:20] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, you want to mirror an ftp/http structure on windows, ask on ##windows
[12:20] <doomhz> how can I open a new Tab in GNOME Commander?
[12:20] <zeno> lianimator: its simpler
[12:21] <|MUSE|> it seems that I am not a sudoer: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/94497/ but "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" is in /etc/sudoers?
[12:21] <lianimator> zeno: I prefer ktorrent though it's not native to gnome
[12:21] <zeno> MiladKhajavi: easiser just to install with the normal cd and add stuff later
[12:21] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, and be aware that the repositories (including universe) will take several DVDs
[12:21] <zeno> lianimator: the kde4 one is a huge resource hog and crashes :\
[12:22] <zeno> lianimator: was using 1.4 gb ram for me lol
[12:22] <joaopinto> |MUSE|, you need to prefix the command with: sudo
[12:22] <lianimator> zeno: wow, what do you use now? I really liked utorrent in windows
[12:22] <peleg> I have a problem with aptitude in the last two days. I get, for example, "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mlterm/mlterm-common_2.9.3-5_i386.deb"
[12:22] <peleg> It keeps saying "are you sure?" "untrusted sources" etc.
[12:23] <zeno> lianimator: utorrent runs in wine well if you really want, i use deluge tho
[12:23] <peleg> and then it fails downloading -- it's not downloading at all
[12:23] <joaopinto> zeno, have you tried with a different mirror ?
[12:23] <zeno> and ktorrent kde3
[12:23] <zeno> joaopinto: ?
[12:23] <lianimator> zeno: wonder why deluge is the 3rd most popular one, after transmission and "BitTorrent Download Client"
[12:23] <joaopinto> ops, was for peleg
[12:24] <peleg> joaopinto, no, I just press + in aptitude and it does the rest.
[12:24] <k2s> I am trying latest UBUNTU release on DELL D610. Installation and live CD stops in black screen. In Alt+F1 console there is message "Please wait loading". Does somebody have idea how to fix it ?
[12:24] <zeno> lianimator: defaults, alot of people not power users
[12:24] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[12:24] <zeno> k2s: does the cd md5 check>
[12:24] <|MUSE|> ﻿joaopinto: ah, I thought that that was the whole point of being a sudoer, you just type in the command without the sudo and it will just ask for a password?
[12:25] <joaopinto> peleg, go to the software sources application, and select a different mirror
[12:25] <joaopinto> |MUSE|, no, the wall point of sudoer, is to be able to use the "sudo" command :)
[12:25] <doktoreas> I am going to install an ubuntu server edition on a machine..is there a sort of reference of the basic things to keep in mind when doing this operation?
[12:25] <peleg> joaopinto, where is it?
[12:25] <zeno> joaopinto: i think it does both
[12:25] <|MUSE|> ﻿joaopinto: ok thanks :P
[12:25] <joaopinto> zeno, it does not
[12:26] <joaopinto> doktoreas, check help.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <k2s> zeno: I started check disk from menu and it detected problem in one file. I burned it from downloaded ISO. should I try to burn again ?
[12:26] <zeno> joaopinto: IS there a file that does that?
[12:26] <DJ_HaMsTa> dpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl818x/rtl8187.ko not found.
[12:26] <zeno> besides su root =p
[12:26] <joaopinto> zeno, that allows you to run something as root ?
[12:26] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, how did you install that driver on the first place ?
[12:27] <joaopinto> zeno, no, you need to be root
[12:27] <zeno> joaopinto: that will append sudo to any command in a list automatically
[12:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> joaopinto: when i installed ubuntu it was ther
[12:27] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, that's odd :\
[12:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> comes with the OS
[12:27] <zeno> joaopinto: i suppose an alias apt-get=sudo apt-get or w./e would work
[12:27] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, try to search for the file on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> ugh
[12:27] <cheni> do you know when graphic cards ati radeon hd will be fully supported?
[12:27] <peleg> I get "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" for "mlterm [version 2.9.3-5]". but it's in "universe/x11", so why is it like that?
[12:27] <joaopinto> zeno, that would work, but kind of hard for every command :P
[12:27] <badawi> joaopinto: to become root do -> sudo passwd    then do -> su -
[12:28] <joaopinto> cheni, I have an ATI HDsomething, and works fine
[12:28] <joaopinto> BaD_CrC, not really, to become root , just sudo -i
[12:28] <joaopinto> you don't need to enable the root account to become root
[12:28] <peleg> I think I have this message applied to ANY package in aptitude!!
[12:28] <zeno> joaopinto: you dont need for every command, just ones you commonly use that need superuser privs almost every time
[12:28] <cheni> joapinto you can play hd content without problems?
[12:29] <joaopinto> cheni, oh, you refer to HD as HD Video, never tried it
[12:29] <badawi> joaopinto: didn't know that trick, nice
[12:29] <toehio> hello
[12:29] <kop> Zyfo: your welcome
[12:30] <yeryry> "sudo su" works too
[12:30] <zeno> dang my processer is up to 175 farenheight
[12:30] <toehio> Does the Nvidia 9600 GT work with ubuntu 8.1? When I boot It stops when it gets to HALD.
[12:30] <k2s> zeno: I started check disk from menu and it detected problem in one file. I burned it from downloaded ISO. should I try to burn again ?
[12:31] <zeno> toehio: just google nvidia 9600 ubuntu 8.10
[12:31] <joaopinto> sudo su is not recommend, as it does not properly setup the environment, sudo -i is the recommended procedure
[12:31] <zeno> k2s: yes use a low burn speed
[12:31] <joaopinto> toehio, it should work, since it's a common video card
[12:31] <jb-firefoxx> hi all
[12:31] <jb-firefoxx> anyone know hoe to get dial-up running on ubuntu 8.10?
[12:31] <joaopinto> k2s, check the md5sum of the image before burning
[12:31] <toehio> but I can't even boot!
[12:32] <joaopinto> !md5sum | k2s
[12:32] <joaopinto> toehio, can you boot in rescue mode ?
[12:32] <peleg> It looks like it does not find any of the proper sources! for example, I get http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages [ERROR] 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[12:32] <toehio> joaopinto: I have to boot in safe mode and get the root shell
[12:32] <joaopinto> toehio, did you install the nvidia driver ?
[12:32] <peleg> but I can easily ping 91.189.88.31
[12:32] <toehio> joaopinto: How do I solve this "HALD" error and get it to boot normally?
[12:33] <toehio> not yet
[12:33] <joaopinto> toehio, that hald error does not seem related to your video card driver
[12:33] <toehio> But I thought that even without a driver it should boot to gdm
[12:33] <peleg> but I get "unknown host" trying to ping http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ... is that a dns problem?
[12:33] <joaopinto> yes, it should startup into vesa mode
[12:33] <toehio> joaopinto: it is because before when i had an ati i ran ubuntu. after getting the 9600 the problems started
[12:33] <ikonia> peleg fesity is no longer on that repo
[12:33] <joaopinto> Pretto, you need to ping us.archive.ubuntu.com, without the other url parts
[12:33] <Shifty> what could be the problem: i cant access to the internet with my new installed server... i can access it over the lan with ssh, no probs... and i can access it over the internet (external address) but i cant get from the server out in the i-net
[12:33] <ikonia> peleg: only the updates
[12:34] <peleg> ikonia, oh, I see! so what should I do?
[12:34] <Pretto> joaopinto, me?
[12:34] <ikonia> peleg upgrade to a supported version
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> if i upgrade ubuntu, would it get me the drivers that came installed with it back
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> ?
[12:34] <joaopinto> ops, was peleg
[12:34] <steveccc> does anyone know of an email verification piece of software for linux - basically supply it with a list of email addresses and then it outputs the good ones in one list and the dead ones in another list
[12:34] <Pretto> joaopinto,  ;)
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> yup
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> got em back
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> woho
[12:34] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, upgrading to already installed version will do nothing
[12:34] <toehio> joaopinto: I even made a post in the forums a few months back when I was trying with 8.04!
[12:35] <peleg> ikonia, are you telling me that as long as I am staying with 7.04 I can't install new packages using aptitude?
[12:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> joaopinto: upgrading to a NEW version
[12:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> u can not upgrade to the SAME version
[12:35] <ikonia> peleg I'm telling you that release is no longer supported and updated, and that mirror you are using does not have that repo on it
[12:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> because that would not be an upgrade
[12:35] <joaopinto> steveccc, there is no reliable way to determine if an email address exists, for validation you can only apply the generic email validation rules, that can be done with a scripting language, look for samples on goole, either with php or python
[12:35] <peleg> ikonia, I can't upgrade now, I'm a student and I don't have time for that - it's a laptop and everything is so fragile... It'll take me a month to get everything to work properly again
[12:35] <Slart> steveccc: how would this program check these addresses? send an email with the subject "hi, I'm a email-harvester.. are you a real person?" ?
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg there are no updates to fesity, so it doesn't matter, you don't need to use the repos
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg: as nothing is updated any more, it's dead
[12:36] <paolino> ﻿I cannot stop pppd (I believe) from rewriting /etc/resolv.conf, even though there is no usepeerdns option in /ppp/peer/dsl-provider which is invoked via pon dsl-provider. Is there anything else I must look to resolve this?
[12:36] <Slart> steveccc: or are you just looking for something like a regex for an email-address?
[12:36] <cheni> guys, you are great. see you!!
[12:36] <peleg> ikonia, but I want to install NEW packages! for example, mlterm ...
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg nothing is being packaged for feisty - it's deasd
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg: the "new" packages don't exist on fesity
[12:37] <joaopinto> peleg, the repositories are no longer available
[12:37] <steveccc> joaopinto and slart there are pieces of software for windows which claims to connect to the mail server and verifies the address - i assume it starts the mail process and records if a mail address doesnt exist message comes back.
[12:37] <peleg> ikonia, but it is already packaged for feisty. it's not new in that meaning of new - it's new in the meaning of "does not yet exist in my machine"
[12:37] <bobbycheetah> dell d600 laptop with ubuntu 8.10.  i've noticed when I use the function key and up/down arrow keys to brighten/darken the screen I lose control of my keyboard, and cannot display drop-down menus.  anyone familiar with this kind of behaviour?
[12:37] <ikonia> peleg you need to find an active mirror then, but as I said, it's dead, gone
[12:38] <peleg> ok, this is brutal. I can't see why would UBUNTU delete/cancel existing data sources, instead of just adding new ones
[12:38] <Slart> steveccc: hmm.. I would think twice before sending these people any money.. I'm not sure that's part of the standard smtp/imap protocol..
[12:38] <ikonia> peleg space, and to stop people installing it wanting support
[12:38] <joaopinto> steveccc, that depends on the SMTP server implementing such feature, a security enabled server does not, since it allows to verify for the existence of specific users on the system
[12:38] <ikonia> peleg: also, it may only be that mirror it's gone from, I doubt it, but that may be thge case
[12:39] <peleg> oh, space is nothing, really, I don't buy that. And I didn't need any support, only the packages themselves. anyway, thanks. I'll look for other mirrors
[12:40] <yanko> hey
[12:40] <ikonia> peleg space/bandwidth is NOT nothing, who are you to say what is nothing to a company
[12:40] <yanko> i need some help? please
[12:40] <joaopinto> steveccc, the only reliable way to determine an email existence is by using a handshaking process, sending an email requesting a specific action for confirmation
[12:40] <ikonia> !eol > peleg
[12:40] <ikonia> peleg: keep up to date with your distro - it's up to you to be responsible for it
[12:41] <steveccc> joaopinto and slart thanks for the replies - thats what I thought but there are quite a few different pieces of software out there which is strange - this is one example http://www.email-unlimited.com/email_verifier_professional.html
[12:41] <brando> hi ubuntu folks! i am having AACRAID woes...  Getting lot's of "Host adapter reset request. SCSI hang ?" on 8.1 Intrepid Server.  I *think* it may be a problem with HARDWARE QUEUE SIZE
[12:42] <ikonia> brando what raid card is it ?
[12:42] <peleg> ikonia, well, thanks. I have my 7.04 for about half a year, so I feel that it is brutal to cut it out like that. anyway, I won't be able to upgrade now (or in the next 7-8 month), so I'll just give up and hopefully find a new "mirror"
[12:42] <yanko> hey
[12:42] <yanko> can some one help me?
[12:42] <ikonia> peleg then thats your fault for installing a distro that was old not supported
[12:42] <brando> IBM ServerRAID 8k-l... it says Adaptec ATB-205 on it
[12:42] <Slart> steveccc: mm.. I just googled around and there are quite a number of those utilities.. I still doubt if they work for all addresses.. as joaopinto said, the only way to make sure the address is in use is to send an email and request they send it back or something like that
[12:42] <peleg> ikonia, no, I have *bought* it like that from dell.
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg thats your fault
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg: not ubuntus', complain to dell
[12:43] <peleg> ikonia, and there was no ubuntu 8 back then
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg: you have a  year warrenty
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg: there was ubuntu 8 6 months ago
[12:43] <Slart> steveccc: you could just check if the domain exists.. that probably will remove some of the dead addresses
[12:43] <yanko> cane some one help me ?
[12:43] <peleg> ikonia, so maybe I have it a bit more. less then a year, anyway.
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg: there was ubuntu 7.10 over a year ago)
[12:44] <Slart> steveccc: you can of course keep track of what addresses bounce when you use the addresses.. if you plan on sending mail to them
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg: you have no excuse
[12:44] <badawi> how do i enable sudo logging
[12:44] <peleg> ikonia, hmm.. didn't think of 7.10. Do you think an upgrade to 7.10 will solve my problem? it should take a few minutes, shouldn't it?
[12:44] <kop> yanko: ?
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg should take a long time as it will have to download the whole repo, but you said you can't update so whats teh point
[12:45] <steveccc> slart: yes it would but in my case alot are people who have changed isp's or left companies etc.  Unfortunately if the email address is valid my software will send out to it and the only way of getting a bad address list is to collate all of the emails which come back to the sending address. - anyway thanks for your help
[12:45] <ikonia> peleg: if your going to update you should update to the current supported versions
[12:45] <peleg> ikonia, I'm confused. I thought that 7.10 is just simple bug fixes and so for 7.04, not a new distro
[12:45] <Slart> steveccc: you're welcome
[12:45] <ikonia> peleg no, it's a new distro
[12:45] <ikonia> peleg: each release ius a new distro
[12:45] <joaopinto> peleg, the version is, year.month, it's always a new distro
[12:46] <kapildev> how do we tell ubuntu not to ask password for  a specific user whenever he uses sudo?
[12:46] <ikonia> kapildev: NOPASSWORD option in sudoers files
[12:46] <kapildev> i tried sudo visudo and added a similar entry below root
[12:46] <jrib> kapildev: man sudoers, see the NOPASSWD section
[12:46] <joaopinto> kapildev, man sudoers
[12:46] <ikonia> kapildev: google brings up examples
[12:46] <brando> IBM ServerRAID 8k-l... it says Adaptec ATB-205 on it.  dmesg reveals this: Adaptec aacraid driver 1.1-5[2456]-ms.  It seems to be the most current driver but there was a bug found prior to release of 8.1 regarding this
[12:46] <kapildev> oh.ok
[12:47] <ikonia> brando: are you using the card as a hardawre controller or software?
[12:47] <Slart> steveccc: here's a thread with some discussion about it.. http://archives.devshed.com/forums/net-206/check-if-email-address-exists-not-if-email-addrss-is-2117396.html
[12:47] <peleg> ikonia, I see. ok, the problem is not time - as long as ubuntu downloads stuff in the background I don't care. the problem is that I have so many things that it took me weeks to make them work, like video, sound, keyboard, and fonts, and I'm afraid that upgrading will erase my efforts
[12:47] <brando> hardware controller
[12:47] <ikonia> peleg possible will
[12:47] <peleg> I'll have to invest weeks in order to make everything work properly again...
[12:47] <ikonia> brando so your using it in a hardware raid config
[12:47] <peleg> oh, no hope.
[12:47] <brando> install went smoothly.
[12:47] <brando> yes
[12:47] <jrib> peleg: try a live cd and see if it "just works"
[12:47] <brando> small files are passed quickly and easily
[12:48] <brando> large files > 2GB  break it every time
[12:48] <ikonia> brando have looked at any kernel parameters needed for it
[12:48] <lorgam> hi
[12:48] <lorgam> I have windows and slax installed on my PC, with the boot loader: Lilo
[12:48] <lorgam> Can I add Ubuntu without installing grub ?
[12:48] <brando> no, afraid i am too noob ;)
[12:48] <ikonia> lorgam: yup
[12:48] <lorgam> how can I do this ikonia ?
[12:49] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, although you would have to use the slax support channel
[12:49] <ikonia> lorgam: install ubuntu and click the option to have " don't install grub"
[12:49] <Paddy_EIRE> not a ubuntu issue
[12:49] <lorgam> Paddy_EIRE I'm asking how to install ubuntu without grub !
[12:49] <ikonia> brando: sounds like a buffer error, I'd look for config options for that card,
[12:49] <lorgam> have you a screenshot of this ikonia ?
[12:50] <ikonia> lorgam: why do you need a screen shot
[12:50] <brando> ok- please hint on where they go ...
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, well thats the extent of it.. uncheck install grub during install
[12:50] <ikonia> lorgam: just follow the installer and then the option that says "install grub" disable it
[12:50] <ikonia> lorgam: it's pretty intuitive
[12:50] <jb-firefoxx> Paddy: yeah
[12:50] <lorgam> oky
[12:50] <ikonia> brando: they are normally kernel boot parameters, or can go in the sysctl.conf
[12:50] <jb-firefoxx> its about the last step, before u finally install
[12:51] <brando> ok, i look into it.  thanks a bunch ikonia :)
[12:52] <lorgam> What's the latest version of Ubuntu ?
[12:52] <peleg> jrib, thanks, I think I might will. Will it really imitate well how it'll work with a new installation?
[12:52] <dAnjou> lorgam, 8.10
[12:52] <lorgam> ok
[12:52] <dAnjou> intrepid ibex
[12:52] <jrib> peleg: of course, it's just like an install
[12:52] <peleg> ikonia, how much time should I expect for a new installation to work? (not including my own fixes)
[12:52] <peleg> jrib, thanks.
[12:53] <jrib> peleg: I'd try both 8.04 (support for 3 years on the desktop) and 8.10 (support for 18 months, but newer).
[12:54] <lorgam> if I install Ubuntu 7.04 and have acces to internet, can I update it to the version 8.10 ?
[12:54] <peleg> jrib, what should I backup before installation?
[12:54] <dAnjou> lorgam, I think so
[12:54] <jrib> peleg: anything you should already have backups for: data you care about
[12:54] <dAnjou> lorgam, but step by step
[12:54] <lorgam> ?
[12:54] <ikonia> lorgam yup
[12:54] <joaopinto> lorgam, you should install 8.10 directly
[12:54] <peleg> jrib, but what about all of the stuff in .Gnome and .irssi and etc... will it be preserved? will it survive the upgrade?
[12:55] <lorgam> joaopinto I have a low connexion to internet , and I have the CD of version 7.04
[12:55] <dAnjou> lorgam, do what joaopinto said
[12:55] <joaopinto> lorgam, the upgrade size is not different from the CD size
[12:55] <jrib> peleg: yes, all your settings are supposed to stay there, so barring some catastrophic failure, you are fine
[12:55] <lorgam> ah oky
[12:55] <dAnjou> lorgam, it will take more time to upgrade it
[12:55] <lorgam> so I'll download the 8.10
[12:55] <lorgam> thanks
[12:56] <kapildev> did anyone observe that speedbar is broken in emacs 23.0.60.1 ?
[12:56] <vette> hi.. looked every where
[12:56] <vette> need some help
[12:56] <kapildev> mouse-2 does the job instead of mouse-1
[12:57] <peleg> jrib, ok, thanks. Do you have any estimation how much time should it take? I can take a day off now, so if the whole process will take no more than 6 hours, I think I'll go for it (I assume people here will try to help me if I'm stuck, right? ;-) )
[12:57] <ardchoille> !ask | vette
[12:57] <cdavis> Does anyone know how to change spamassassins scoring of RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033 when using amavisd and postfix?
[12:57] <cE_imoet> j
[12:57] <cE_imoet> uio
[12:57] <dAnjou> vette, everyone here expect(!) that you looked everywhere, so you don't have to say it
[12:58] <vette> tried creating a partition and getting an error - using gparted
[12:58] <jrib> peleg: are you upgrading from 7.04?
[12:58] <cdavis> I changed it in local.cf, restarted spamassassin and it still doesn't change the default value given
[12:58] <lorgam> what should I choose, Kubuntu or Ubuntu or Xbuntu or Edubuntu ?
[12:59] <dAnjou> lorgam, depends
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, which ever you want to use :/
[12:59] <peleg> jrib, indeed
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, research your needs first
[12:59] <vette> any ideas?
[12:59] <lorgam> the difference is only in the Interface ?
[12:59] <vette> Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sdb6 -- Device or resource busy.
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, mainly yes.. the "Desktop Environment"
[13:00] <lorgam> ok
[13:00] <allennewok> Hello
[13:00] <vette> any help?
[13:00] <lorgam> I'll take Ubuntu then
[13:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !de
[13:00] <prahal_> hi has anyone got suspend to ram working under jaunty ? it seems to me its consolekit version has a bug
[13:00] <vette> will be appreciated?
[13:00] <Paddy_EIRE> umm
[13:00] <ikonia> prahal_ #ubuntu+1 please
[13:00] <vette> sata
[13:00] <prahal_> ikonia, thanks
[13:00] <badawi> how can i use vi with visudo
[13:00] <daNz_ajah> gbhhhh
[13:00] <allennewok> this is the first time for me to come here
[13:00] <ikonia> badawi EDITOR=vi
[13:00] <ikonia> badawi: then visudo
[13:00] <dAnjou> lorgam, low performance? Xubuntu, more performance? Ubuntu, even more perfomance? Kubuntu, Edubuntu? forget it ;)
[13:01] <daNz_ajah> cgfhhmn
[13:01] <vette> anyone can help with this issue?
[13:01] <ikonia> daNz_ajah stop please
[13:01] <lorgam> ok :)
[13:01] <jrib> peleg: you'll need to upgrade through 7.10 first, then 8.04, then 8.10 (as far as you want to go since all of these are supported, however 7.10 support ends in april).  Each upgrade will probably take "a couple" of hours (it depends on how much you have installed).  If you just want to upgrade to 7.10, I'd say you have plenty of time.  Depending on how much time that takes, you can then gauge if you have
[13:01] <jrib> time for the 8.04 upgrade
[13:01] <badawi> ikonia: not working
[13:02] <ikonia> badawi what happens
[13:02] <peleg> jrib, oh, cool, thanks! I'll start with 7.10 then
[13:02] <allennewok> but i saw some words could not be listed fully
[13:02] <vette> any help with partioning issue?
[13:02] <allennewok> why
[13:02] <ikonia> allennewok pardon ?
[13:03] <badawi> ikonia: tried EDITOR=vi <enter> sudo visudo, tried export EDITOR=vi <enter> sudo visudo, tried EDITOR=vi sudo visudo all of them started pico, i'm not used to pico :(
[13:03] <peleg> What simple program you know for burning dvds? (hmm... and how will I install it if I don't have "active mirrors"?)
[13:03] <allennewok> o,nothing sorry
[13:03] <gamla_kossan> hi people. I'm wondering where I can change the type of hash that my passwd file uses? in fedora, there's authconfig, but it doesn't seem to be available for ubuntu.
[13:04] <vette> any partitioning guyz around?
[13:04] <gamla_kossan> vette: it's easier if you ask your question =)
[13:04] <bobbycheetah> nm.  using shred to wipe the hdd and sell it. i'm tired of putting up with this dell.
[13:05] <gamla_kossan> anyone? anyone? bueller?
[13:05] <vette> i get an error when using gparted
[13:05] <gamla_kossan> bueller?
[13:05] <gamla_kossan> =)
[13:06] <gamla_kossan> vette: there's a weird bug imo in gparted; it mounts the partitions when it scans for them. unmount the partition you want to edit, and try again. if that's your problem =)
[13:06] <vette> i can't unmount it since it is now showing as unknown?
[13:06] <gamla_kossan> oh, that doesn't sound very good.
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> vette, did you apply
[13:07] <lorgam> and if I install ubuntu with grub, grub will detect Slax and windows ?
[13:07] <allennewok> I am a new user for linux.so I only do nithing but look at the board for what you say.
[13:07] <gamla_kossan> well, I'd help you out but I'm just about to leave for lunch. I'll be back in a bit, but hopefully you've gotten help before then.
[13:07] <lorgam> (I have alredy windows and slax installed)
[13:07] <badawi> ikonia: works when i do this -> sudo -i <enter> export EDITOR=vi <enter> visudo
[13:07] <vette> not sure i understand apply?
[13:07] <majnoon> lorgam, USUALLY
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | lorgam
[13:07] <ikonia> lorgam if you have a shared /boot partition, maybe
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, tut tut
[13:08] <ikonia> badawi what happens when you do that
[13:08] <badawi> ikonia: i get vi
[13:08] <ikonia> badawi: thats visudo
[13:08] <ikonia> badawi: visudo is just an editor
[13:08] <allennewok> what's the topic?
[13:08] <ikonia> or a wrapper I should say
[13:08] <jrib> badawi: sudo resets the environment.  Did you read visudo's man page?
[13:09] <freiksenet> hello everyone. I have a problem with my ubuntu on old hp omnibook xt6050 laptop. I can't get display driver to work. i try to put "intel" driver to xorg.conf, but then on restart it fails to load. In logs I see that he tries to access external VGA output and when he fails he just unloads intel drivers. he doesnot even try to use internal laptop screen.
[13:09] <ikonia> badawi if your EDITOR is set to vi, and you do visudo you will edit the file in vi
[13:09] <badawi> ikonia: this is what i want
[13:10] <ikonia> badawi and thats what you should get
[13:10] <badawi> jrib: reading ...
[13:10] <muxx> freiksenet, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:10] <freiksenet> 8.10
[13:10] <jrib> badawi: ok, well my point is you want: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[13:10] <peleg> jrib, do you have any idea how will I get gnomebaker or some other burning application with no active mirrors? do you know of a binary of gnomebaker somewhere?
[13:10] <badawi> jrib: ahh!
[13:11] <jrib> peleg: old-releases.ubuntu.com until you upgrade
[13:11] <EugenMayer> what i the easiest way to get vmbox installed under ubuntu?
[13:11] <peleg> jrib, thanks!
[13:11] <Tomasso> I cant kill al process, how do i force it to quit?
[13:11] <jrib> EugenMayer: vmbox?
[13:11] <makkalot> hi all i have installed latest version of ubuntu 8.10 but the highest resolution that appears on my desktop is 800x600, any ideas ?
[13:12] <makkalot> i have intel based graphic video card
[13:12] <Paddy_EIRE> !vbox | EugenMayer
[13:12] <peleg> jrib, something like "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com feisty main universe" ?
[13:13] <jrib> peleg: almost.  Look at the current url you use
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Tomasso, try structuring your questions a little better please
[13:14] <peleg> weird, I get "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" and "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[13:14] <peleg> oh, silly me. forget about that
[13:14] <tarokun> makkalot: run xrandr -q and see what options you have.
[13:15] <freiksenet> also I tried to use vesa driver, but it just allows 640x480 resolution if you run xrandr.
[13:15] <makkalot> tarokun: trying ..
[13:16] <freiksenet> and it skips mode I specified in xorg.conf
[13:16] <prahal_> makkalot, do you use a very old monitor (one without EDID support)
[13:16] <freiksenet> saying "no mode of this name", even though I specified it in monitor modeline %=
[13:16] <makkalot> prahal_: no it is my new notebook
[13:16] <wjj> hi all i have a question
[13:17] <dAnjou> wjj, we know
[13:17] <wjj> after i use about 10minutes the usb will be disconnected
[13:18] <badawi> i'm not clear on the syntax for enabling logging in sudo, i keep getting >>> sudoers file: syntax error, when i save :(
[13:18]  * Panarchy says Hi
[13:18] <foloex> is it possible to change the idproduct of a usb device for the system ?
[13:19] <Panarchy> Is language-support-writing-en an important package for an english speaking Ubuntu user?
[13:19] <prahal_> makkalot, then xrandr  as tarokun told
[13:20] <spencercornyn> hello everyone... has anyone tried LINUXBIOS or COREBOOT?
[13:20] <Panarchy> Is 'language-support-writing-en' an important package for an English speaking Ubuntu user? As I'm currently trying to completely remove OpenOffice.
[13:20] <prahal_> should give you all the detected resolutionns
[13:20] <makkalot> prahal_: i have 2 options there 800x600 and smaller one
[13:20] <badawi> nevermind, it should be a different line
[13:20] <wjj> i am sorry i dont know what's idproduct
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | spencercornyn
[13:20] <heret1c> 'lo .)
[13:20] <wjj> but i just no react
[13:20] <prahal_> spencercornyn, they are te same (only linuxbios was the old name)
[13:20] <wjj> all ways
[13:21] <wjj> y when i press dmesg display like fat:directory
[13:21] <Panarchy> Is 'language-support-writing-en' an important package for an English speaking Ubuntu user? As I'm currently trying to completely remove OpenOffice, through synaptic, and it came up that this extra package had to be removed
[13:21] <Panarchy> Is 'language-support-writing-en' an important package for an English speaking Ubuntu user? As I'm currently trying to completely remove OpenOffice, through synaptic, and it came up that this extra package has to be removed
[13:21] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat
[13:21] <makkalot> tarokun: have 2 options there with xrandr -q 800x600 and smaller one ,what todo now ?
[13:22] <Panarchy> Sorry, had made a typo in the first one
[13:22] <spencercornyn> prahal_: the bios in my pc is gone i think... it doesn't boot anything nothing shows up... i don't have recovery discs... will replacing it with coreboot work?
[13:22] <tarokun> makkalot: what resolution do you expect to have?
[13:22] <spencercornyn> not too old of a computer without any bios in it... just want to fix the damn thing
[13:22] <heret1c> have an issue w. gmobilemedia/permissions/groups/wozzit. GMM refuses to connect, antwats. No problem w. gammu.
[13:22] <prahal_> makkalot, which is the brand/model of the notebook .. if there are already reports about it it will go faster deciphering what s happening
[13:23] <Paddy_EIRE> spencercornyn, this is not the place for coreboot support
[13:23] <Paddy_EIRE> spencercornyn, this is a ubuntu support channel
[13:23] <StretchUK> Hey all, I'm trying to sort out read/write access for an external hard drive. When i plug it in it's auto mounted. Problem I'm having right now is that I can't find out what the /dev/ address for it is. Doesn't seem to show up when i run fdisk. Any ideas?
[13:23] <doktoreas> if I enable ufw, by default it will block all ports?
[13:23] <jrib> StretchUK: type 'mount' and look for the mount point
[13:24] <Boohbah> heret1c: sorry, what do 'wozzit', 'antwats', and 'gammu' mean? is that English?
[13:24] <makkalot> tarokun: at least 1280
[13:24] <makkalot> the icons are huge really
[13:24] <StretchUK> ah that looks helpful. thank you.
[13:24] <jrib> StretchUK: what filesystem by the way?
[13:24] <heret1c> boob
[13:24] <ikonia> heret1c ?
[13:25] <prahal_> spencercornyn, recovery disk would not help ... you ll need a flash rom card or to ask an assembler to do it for you (be it a coreboot bios or a vanilla bios). Cannot help much more sorry
[13:25] <tarokun> makkalot: is 1280 an option in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:25] <heret1c> Boohbah: know anything about GMobilemedia?
[13:25] <StretchUK> jrib, it's NTFS i believe. And it doesn't appear to be showing up in the list after i've put 'mount'
[13:25] <spencercornyn> thanks prahal_
[13:26] <jrib> StretchUK: why do you believe it is auto-mounted?
[13:26] <StretchUK> well it shows up on the desktop. it's just read-only.
[13:26] <puneeth1> !VIA
[13:26] <jrib> StretchUK: ls -l /media
[13:26] <puneeth1> !graphic
[13:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | StretchUK
[13:27] <heret1c> GMM gives an interpretable error when I try to connect with my phone. this/or/that/or.
[13:27] <prahal_> spencercornyn, you could try to remove the battery on the motherboard for a few minutes. That will reset the bios (if it was not broken by a power issue)
[13:28] <Abdie_26> feri
[13:28] <prahal_> and usually there is a jumper to do that see the doc of the motherboard
[13:28] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, try to structure your questions so that they make sense please... all on one line dont use enter as punctuation :)
[13:28] <spencercornyn> prahal_: i did that.. the thing turns on but nothing shows up on screen.. not even a beep...
[13:29] <makkalot> tarokun: it is kind of weird i dont have so much entries in my xorg.conf, i dont have those that are also supported 800x600 etc
[13:29] <youshaoyun> quit
[13:29] <tarokun> makkalot: assuming you have the right graphic driver loaded, get a fresh xorg.conf using X -configure and test it out.
[13:30] <Abdie_26> feri
[13:30] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: pardons. been at this for hours. combination of bad eyesight and dark surroundings don't help.
[13:30] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, I can understand that
[13:31] <der|kunstler> why is it that when I create a manual connection, it doesn't stay, when I reboot it goes back to DHCP
[13:31] <tarokun> makkalot: you'll need to do that in VC. frustrating I know.
[13:31] <StretchUK> OK so now I have this output but I don't know if any of them are my HD or my messed up attempts at mounting.
[13:31] <StretchUK> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root     6 2008-12-09 11:54 cdrom -> cdrom0
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root  4096 2008-12-09 11:54 cdrom0
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwx------ 12 stretch root 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 MEDIA
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwxrwxrwx  1 root    root 16384 2008-12-09 13:02 Trash
[13:31] <FloodBot3> StretchUK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwx------ 12 stretch root 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 USB2
[13:32] <chiliblue> did smb support in nautilus recently get fixed?
[13:32] <Abdie_26> ae
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Abdie_26, could you knock that off please
[13:32] <jrib> StretchUK: pastebin that along with 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l'
[13:32] <StretchUK> jrib: Ok, thanks.
[13:32] <makkalot> tarokun: actually i didnt installed any drivers, hmm firstly should try some
[13:32] <crazybyte> hi! could somebody recommend me a good cpannel type application (webmin excluded) that allows remote server management (web server management)
[13:32] <crazybyte> thank you!
[13:33] <Photoguy> What is the best way to update video card drivers in Ubuntu?
[13:34] <jrib> Photoguy: APT
[13:34] <StretchUK> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m844c4f6
[13:34] <Photoguy> APT?
[13:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !apt | Photoguy
[13:34] <ikonia> Photoguy what drivers ?
[13:34] <magnetron> Photoguy→ yeah, the usual update system
[13:34] <Photoguy> ATI Video card
[13:34] <jrib> Photoguy: update-manager will take care of upgrades for you
[13:34] <Photoguy> Ok,
[13:35] <heret1c> basically I wish to get photos from my phone, a nokia 6070. xan access sms/contacts w. gammu. gmobilemedia throws an error saying I haven't configued the phone's permissions correctly, or 3 other possible reasons why it won't connect.
[13:35] <Photoguy> Thanks.
[13:35] <tarokun> makkalot: oh I assume ubuntu should've taken care of that for you. try hwdetect --show-video and check if they are loaded using lsmod of cat /proc/modules
[13:36] <chiliblue> Photoguy why do you want to update them?
[13:36] <jrib> StretchUK: are you sure it's ntfs and not vfat?
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, I googled "nokia+6070+ubuntu" http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=nokia+6070+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3D
[13:36] <Photoguy> I just wanted to make sure, because I'm trying to run Battlefield 2
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, and you say you have been at this for hours
[13:36] <StretchUK> jrib: Nope, i just assumed from all the literature on the net about ntfs drives coming up read-only. It's a 500gb external.
[13:37] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: hole in one.
[13:37] <jrib> StretchUK: ok, 'sudo umount /dev/sdf1'
[13:37] <the[V]oid> hi, am I the only one who cannot connect to icq anymore?
[13:37] <der|kunstler> why does ubuntu keeps overriding my network configuration, it always falls back to automatic
[13:37] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: came across gmm 1/2 hr ago.
[13:37] <DIFH-iceroot> the[V]oid: they have changed the protocol again
[13:37] <XLV> StretchUK, ntfs-3g is being used now to mount ntfs rw
[13:37] <the[V]oid> is there a patch/fix already?
[13:38] <DIFH-iceroot> the[V]oid: dont know, i am using irssi for icq at it works fine
[13:38] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, http://www.gnokii.org/
[13:38] <der|kunstler> help ?
[13:38] <StretchUK> i installed ntfs-3g and flicked it on for external devices.
[13:39] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: gnokii dowsn't access åhotos, only smses/contacts. I know because I  have it, it works.
[13:39] <StretchUK> jrib: after doing that my external hd is still on the desktop, but i did loads of messing about so I'm lost.
[13:40] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, ah no pics
[13:40] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[13:40] <jrib> StretchUK: it's formatted vfat, not ntfs.  Pastebin what 'mount' returns now
[13:40] <StretchUK> k
[13:40] <StretchUK> http://pastebin.com/m74340046
[13:41] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: gmoblemedia is supposed to handle pix. acces the filesstem of the device. all-singing bells+whistles.
[13:41] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, ah I see.. let me have a look
[13:42] <jrib> StretchUK: run 'sudo umount /dev/sdf1' two more times, then pastebin 'mount' again
[13:42] <jeezyme> hi, my ubuntu takes a VERY long time to shut down, how do i fix it?
[13:42] <heret1c> it's such an IDIOTIC error. ./
[13:42] <StretchUK> http://pastebin.com/m350544d thanks for the help btw. I think I know what I did there.
[13:43] <Photoguy> Any ideas for getting Battlefiled 2 to work?
[13:43] <jrib> StretchUK: unplug your drive and plug it back in, pastebin 'mount'
[13:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Photoguy, winehq
[13:43] <Photoguy> It goes to a black screen, and changes the resolution to 800x600
[13:43] <Spark> does anyone know why upgrading to intrepid would have broken the arrow keys for the ion window manager?
[13:43] <Photoguy> I'm using Wine.
[13:44] <jrib> Spark: read the release notes?
[13:44] <StretchUK> http://pastebin.com/m6b87a526  there it is
[13:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Photoguy, you will have to use winehq.. this channel does not support installation of individual games... we would be spread a little thin now wouldnt we ;)
[13:44] <Photoguy> Oh, ok.
[13:44] <Spark> jrib: where are they?
[13:44] <jrib> StretchUK: you should be able to write to /media/MEDIA
[13:45] <the[V]oid> can someone tell me whether ICQ is still working with pidgin 2.5.2?
[13:45] <jrib> !notes > Spark
[13:45] <Spark> got them
[13:45] <StretchUK> jrib: Definatly can't.
[13:45] <Spark> ah thanks, googling returned the wrong release notes :)
[13:45] <jrib> Spark: I imagine it's related to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#X.Org%20evdev%20xmodmap%20incompatibility but that's a guess
[13:46] <jrib> StretchUK: 'touch /media/MEDIA/testingificanwrite'
[13:46] <Zyfo> If I type "smon" in the terminal I want it to execute "gnome-system-monitor". How?
[13:46] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.gtkfiles.org/app.php/gMobileMedia
[13:46] <DIFH-iceroot> Zyfo: alias?
[13:46] <Zyfo> DIFH-iceroot: how do I use it? :p
[13:46] <StretchUK> jrib:  cannot touch `/media/MEDIA/testingificanwrite': Read-only file system
[13:47] <Spirits-Sight> what kind of program can open a .pub file
[13:47] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, http://gmobilebrowser.sourceforge.net/
[13:47] <Zyfo> nvm, found it. Thanks. Where are these stored?
[13:47] <Spark> jrib: ah you're absolutely right thanks
[13:47] <jrib> StretchUK: 'sudo touch /media/MEDIA/testingificanwrite' fails with the same error?
[13:47] <ne2k__> Spirits-Sight: MS Publisher
[13:47] <StretchUK> jrib: Yup.
[13:47] <Spirits-Sight> ne2k__: besides MS Pub
[13:47] <jeezyme> hi, my ubuntu takes a VERY long time to shut down, how do i fix it?
[13:48] <Paddy_EIRE> I will be gone a few moments heret1c hold tight :)
[13:48] <ardchoille> jeezyme: are you on intrepid?
[13:48] <DIFH-iceroot> Zyfo: alias short_command="long command"
[13:48] <jrib> StretchUK: mount says it's not read-only though :/
[13:48] <jrib> StretchUK: you have data on here already?
[13:48] <rascal> help
[13:48] <Zyfo> DIFH-iceroot: Added, though it doesn't work with Verve command line. Things like "xkill" works though, why?
[13:48] <StretchUK> jrib: Oh yeah, lots of it.
[13:49] <rascal> is any to help me
[13:49] <ne2k__> Spirits-Sight: not that I know of.
[13:49] <rascal> help me
[13:49] <DIFH-iceroot> Zyfo: Verve?
[13:49] <jrib> StretchUK: check 'dmesg'
[13:49] <Zyfo> DIFH-iceroot: yeah, some one-line terminal thingy in task bar
[13:49] <jeezyme> ardchoille: hey, never mind! just saw the thread in the forums! :)
[13:49] <Zyfo> "Could not execute command"
[13:49] <syahreza_FS> hi
[13:49] <ardchoille> jeezyme: ok
[13:49] <Zyfo> guess it's the same as run program sort of
[13:49] <DIFH-iceroot> Zyfo: sorry dont know
[13:49] <ardchoille> jeezyme: which thread? url?
[13:49] <syahreza_FS> iki yaok opo iki??
[13:50] <maverick340> how do i connect a tcp/ip printer on the Local Network ?
[13:50] <jeezyme> the common bugs in intrepid
[13:50] <StretchUK> jrib: Well there's alot of AE_NOT_FOUND errors, but the hd is in there.
[13:50] <jeezyme> i mean known
[13:50] <jeezyme> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966436
[13:50] <ardchoille> jeezyme: thanks
[13:50] <rascal> help me ardchoille
[13:50] <lasivian_> where does 8.10 store it's trash?
[13:51] <whynot> I got a question about disk cloning.
[13:51] <Photoguy> Bottom right
[13:51] <DIFH-iceroot> lasivian_: in your user-folder
[13:51] <DIFH-iceroot> lasivian_: ~/.trash or something like that
[13:51] <lasivian_> yes, but what subfolder? I thought it was .Trash
[13:51] <jeezyme> ardchoille: er anytime!
[13:51] <lasivian_> hrrm, maybe I just have nothing in the trashcan?
[13:51] <whynot> Partimage requires me to back mbr and partition info, but I'm not good at using ubuntu turminal.
[13:51] <Photoguy> !
[13:51] <Photoguy> !help
[13:52] <ardchoille> jeezyme: wait, I did a recent kernel upgrade and that fixed the problem for me. is your system completely up to date?
[13:52] <joaopinto> whynot, backing up the mbr is a single command
[13:52] <whynot> I heard of clonezilla.  Clonezilla is much easier than partimage?
[13:52] <jrib> StretchUK: I found this http://fixunix.com/mandriva/123349-vfat-drive-went-read-only-how-fix.html I'd echo the last comment, make backups.  Maybe you can try some of the tools there after you've made backups
[13:52] <DIFH-iceroot> lasivian_: locate .trash = ~/.local/share/trash
[13:52] <joaopinto> whynot, clonezilla is more for massive cloning
[13:52] <whynot> Which is better?  Clonezilla or partimage?
[13:52] <jrib> StretchUK: or make backups and then just use gparted to reformat
[13:52] <lasivian_> odd, thanks
[13:52] <joaopinto> never used clonezilla :\
[13:52] <jeezyme> ardchoille: there was a kernel update in the last week? [my net con doesn't work in ubuntu either, another bug]
[13:53] <ardchoille> jeezyme: yes, there is a kernel update, but you need to fix your connectio first :(
[13:53] <whynot> joaopinto/ clonezilla se is for massive cloning.  clonezilla live is for single user.
[13:53] <jeezyme> ardchoille: working on it! :)
[13:53] <jrib> StretchUK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627239 too
[13:53] <jandremendesc> hi
[13:54] <jandremendesc> I am portuguese
[13:54] <maverick340> er. any idea how to connect to a tcp/ip printer ?
[13:54] <jrib> StretchUK: this person uses fsck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481699  I'll stop spamming you now :)
[13:54] <wene> hello
[13:54] <whynot> joaopinto/I'm a linux beginner. Even though mbr back requires only one single command, but I don't understand the command dd.  That's the promblem of mine.
[13:54] <wene> im looking for a mysql connector to use with c#, do you know a packet name ?
[13:55] <joaopinto> whyameye, it will read the mbr sector from the disk, to a file
[13:55] <whynot> what does DD stands for?
[13:55] <ikonia> wene mono has some mysql connectors
[13:55] <ikonia> whynot: it's just a command
[13:55] <whynot> disk something?
[13:55] <tj83> Hi all i was wondering if anyone here uses pptd for VPN connections for ubuntu/xp to ubuntu server, I have it installed and mostly configured but i must be missing something, I can connect to the VPN from remote site, successfully proxy the net traffic through that vpn server, however, i cannon ping the sever IP nor can i see any samba shares that i know are present. any ideas? any hints or help would be appreciated.
[13:55] <ikonia> whynot it's just a command
[13:55] <snek> whynot: Dolby Digital? :)
[13:55] <StretchUK> jrib: Thanks for the links, it may be corrupt but that's not reason to send the whole thing read-only. That's just annoying. Thanks again.
[13:55] <wene> thank you ikonia
[13:55] <ardchoille> whynot: PartImage copies only the used part of the partition, I believe dd copies the entire partition. PartImage takes 6 minutes on my machine to image /
[13:56] <joaopinto> ardchoille, he only needs dd to backup the mbr
[13:56] <whynot> let me know which is better and easier?  clonezilla or partimage?
[13:56] <ardchoille> joaopinto: Ah, ok, that works
[13:56] <TecR0c> Does anyone know how to connect to a VPN from my ubuntu box ?
[13:56] <snek> got audio working on this imac now as well, it's almost perfect now except for the non-standard keyboard.......
[13:56] <ikonia> tj83 what ip are you trying to ping when your connected tot he vpn
[13:56] <nme> do you guys have packets destined to 00:00:00:00:00:00 mac address at your networks? (tcpdump -i eth0 -en ether host 00:00:00:00:00:00)
[13:56] <tj83> ikonia, the server's local IP
[13:57] <joaopinto> whynot, anyway, the mbr is something that you can easily reinstall, since it does not contain data
[13:57] <snek> TecR0c: use terminal server client
[13:57] <ikonia> tj83 what ip do you get from the vpn client
[13:57] <bullgard4> Why does rgrep not find anything in Gzip archives?
[13:57] <joaopinto> BULLE, you need zgrep for that
[13:57] <whynot> joaopinto/but if I don't backup mbr, I can't boot up my computer, am I right?
[13:57] <tj83> 192.168.1.151 ikonia which falls into the specified range.
[13:57] <tj83> the server local ip is 192.168.1.99
[13:57] <joaopinto> whynot, if you use a livecd you can reinstall the mbr
[13:57] <ikonia> bullgard4 because they are archives not text
[13:58] <bullgard4> ikonia: hm. ok.
[13:58] <joaopinto> whynot, you always need a livecd, to use partimage for the restore process, you just need to reinstall the mbr
[13:58] <ikonia> tj83 does a route get added for that range
[13:58] <whynot> I burned partimage live cd, but I couldnt find out the menu for mbr backup.
[13:58] <LoganPhyve> can anyone help with a sound issue in Intrepid?
[13:58] <ikonia> whynot: sorry, thats not an ubuntu issue
[13:58] <joaopinto> whynot, you reinstall the grub MBR using the ubuntu live cd
[13:58] <tj83> ikonia, well.... honest, i dont know a thing about routing or iptables :(
[13:59] <ikonia> tj83 ok, do you have iptables running
[13:59] <joaopinto> ikonia, he want's to backup an ubuntu system
[13:59] <ikonia> joaopinto: but nothing able to find something on an external live cd is nothing that we can help with
[13:59] <tj83> ikonia, i dunno, i thought it was always run with the base system
[13:59] <ikonia> joaopinto: as you said, he can do this with the ubuntu livecd
[13:59] <joaopinto> ikonia, he is not asking about that specific CD, he is just asking how could he restore the mbr :)
[13:59] <ikonia> tj83: nah, do an sudo iptables -L
[13:59] <whynot> I've installed ubuntu hardy and windows 2000 for multi booting.  so I think it's definitely ubuntu issue.
[14:00] <joaopinto> is partimage included on the ubuntu desktop cd ?
[14:00] <whynot> nope
[14:00] <ikonia> joaopinto: no, but I believe it's in the repo
[14:01] <whynot> OMG, ubuntu gave me too much freedom. too many free softwares.
[14:01] <heret1c> unknown/busy or no permissions
[14:01] <tj83> ikonia, http://www.pastebin.ca/1280677
[14:01] <joaopinto> ok, so for backup/restore another livecd will be required, that is how the "another" livecd came into the subject :)
[14:01] <ikonia> tj83 great, no rules in place
[14:01] <ikonia> tj83: thats a good start
[14:02] <tj83> ikonia, isnt it the job of pptpd to do this for me? not being lazy just want to understand
[14:02] <ikonia> tj83: nah, pptpd shouldn't do firewall stuff
[14:02] <anders_>  http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/287221/starwars%20crisis.JPG
[14:02] <whynot> what's going on?
[14:03] <ikonia> tj83: so you sound like your fine on a network ip / range, you've got no firewalls running on the machines which is good and you can do some network stuff (browse the net) as I understand
[14:03] <ardchoille> anders_: Please don't do that
[14:03] <zeno_> quick how do you pause ffmpeg? cpu overheating and dont want to lose 3 hrs encoding.  ctrlz ?
[14:04] <jrib> zeno_: that will probably work, yes
[14:04] <tj83> ikonia, yes, exactly, seems to work perfect except for the non-ability to ping the server machine and see its samba shares, maybe in the samba config?
[14:04] <LoganPhyve> can anyone help with audio softare corruption? my audio stopped working during a thanksgiving day update, all i get is crackles now, any one got any ideas?
[14:04] <ikonia> tj83: well, ping and samba are seperate, to maybe, but doubtful
[14:05] <ikonia> try doing a "traceroute $server_ip" and stick it in a pastebin with netstatn -rn output too please
[14:05] <fosco_> hi, i've got a question, my swap is beeing used too much, now its 65% of 2gb used, and i only have openbox+xchat running, any advice?
[14:05] <knut> can anybody tell me if this is able to work a 100 % with 8.10 ----------> http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/wiki/InstallingonUbuntu
[14:06] <tj83> ikonia, local or external IP for the sever?
[14:06] <ikonia> tj83: local please
[14:06] <tj83> mind you i am VPN;d right now
[14:06] <ardchoille> knut: I have that running on intrepid now, I installed from the PPA
[14:07] <Fallen_Seraph> er, so ubuntu has been very kind and autodetected my network card. windows has not been so kind. but I need the driver for windows. is there any way I can get ubuntu to tell me what network card I have so I can go and get the drivers?
[14:07] <ardchoille> knut: been using it for weeks without any problems
[14:07] <ikonia> Fallen_Seraph lspci shows you the model number
[14:07] <Fallen_Seraph> cheers :)
[14:07] <knut> ardchoille: you mean the through synaptic packager
[14:08] <ardchoille> knut: yes, follow the directions for adding the GlobalMenu PPA repo
[14:08] <nme> har har har, I've discovered way to completly DoS lan network with Ubuntu Hardy/Intrepid Desktop! :D
[14:08] <tj83> ikonia, http://www.pastebin.ca/1280683
[14:08] <ikonia> nme: thats not support related. we don't care
[14:08] <ikonia> tj83 ahhh
[14:09] <ikonia> tj83: I see the problem
[14:09] <jeezyme> is it possible to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[14:09] <tj83> ikonia, great! lets fix it :P
[14:09] <nme> ikonia: arent you a bot or sth? ;)
[14:09] <ikonia> nme: no I'm not a bot
[14:10] <ikonia> tj83: you've got a bit of an infinate loop
[14:10] <tj83> ikonia, how did that happen lol?
[14:10] <ikonia> tj83: so your onto your private network which is great, your being treated like your on your private network, and your default gateway is 192.168.1.1 which I'm assuming is your network server's gateway, or your routers gateway yes/no ?
[14:11] <tj83> ikonia, yes 192.1681.1. is my router
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:12] <tj83> well hard to say really ikonia i mean 192.168.1.1 is the IP of the router at both points here at work and at home, could be misleading.
[14:12] <jeezyme> is it possible to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[14:12] <jrib> jeezyme: by reinstalling
[14:12] <ikonia> tj83 ok - so what's happening is, your pinging your 192.168.1.99 address, it's going out of your default route, whichi s good, however the address is none-routeable on the internet so it's getting lost
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | jeezyme
[14:12] <ikonia> tj83: you need a route that says 192.168.0.0 use "your virtual interface name/address"
[14:13] <ikonia> tj83: so that anything on your internal lan doesn't go out of the default gateway and try to route across the internet
[14:13] <izinucs> jeezyme, If you have a seperate partition for /home the easiest way is to reinstall fresh and not format home.. Otherwise you'll loose more hair than it's worth trying any other way.
[14:13] <heret1c> /Error opening device: unknown/busy or no permissions.
[14:13] <tj83> ikonia, hmm.... your wading a little deep in the water... i'm close to drowning now.
[14:13] <ikonia> tj83 just a quickone, make sure you didn't do a dypo
[14:13] <heret1c> erk
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: how do you get that error?
[14:14] <ikonia> tj83: the command is traceroute 192.168.1.99 not traceroute $92.168.1.99
[14:14] <jeezyme> izinucs: i can just copy /home and get on with it now?
[14:14] <tj83> ikonia, once sec, diff output
[14:14] <ikonia> thought so
[14:14] <youshaoyun> how to  use flash10,i'v installed,but it doesn't display in menu
[14:14] <ikonia> that should not go across the internet
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> jeezyme: you basically need a clean install of hardy, just backup your ~/ dir so you dont lose data
[14:15] <izinucs> jeezyme, sure.. but don't forget the hidden directories.. some of which you might later have to delete because of 8.1 setup info.. but yea.
[14:15] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: bu clicking "connect" on gMobileMedia's "connect" icon.
[14:15] <tj83> ikonia, it nails it. http://www.pastebin.ca/1280685
[14:15] <Photoguy> How can I quickly change typed languages?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> jeezyme: i can suggest a seperate partition for ~/ so you can easily edit the OS without faffin with data on the sme partition as the OS
[14:15] <ikonia> tj83 mega, so your routing correctly
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> youshaoyun: www.adobe.com
[14:16] <Photoguy> Like type in English, switch to Hebrew, then switch back, all in 30 seconds?
[14:16] <ikonia> tj83: so if you can access the server by ssh, do an sudo iptables -L on the server (1.99)
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: is it ok after a reboot?
[14:17] <tj83> ikonia, son of a gun.... consider that to be the ssh'd output gees, i'm ignorant.. i was ssh'd the whole time.
[14:17] <tj83> sorry.
[14:17] <ikonia> tj83 ha ha ha
[14:17] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: thing is, ubuntu doesn't see the phone, it sees only the serialUSB cable.
[14:17] <ikonia> tj83: an easy mistake to make
[14:17] <ikonia> tj@server gives it away in your prompt
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: ive never connected ubuntu to a phone to get www, what phone is it maybe I can find a guide
[14:18] <LjL> Photoguy: you can put a "keyboard layout switch" applet (not sure that's exactly what it's called) on your panel
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[14:18] <tj83> ikonia, here is the real local commands output http://www.pastebin.ca/1280689
[14:18] <LjL> Photoguy: but didn't the standard Hebrew layout provide a means to type latin letters without switching?
[14:19] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: it works with gammu. it's a nokia 6070.
[14:19] <ikonia> tj83: looking
[14:19] <Photoguy> I'm just clueless that's all, I'll check out what you said.
[14:19] <ikonia> tj83 well that still looks fine
[14:19] <LeD> ciao a tutti!
[14:20] <LjL> Photoguy: i don't remember exactly, it's not like i'm a user of Hebrew keyboards - but from memory, i recalled that if you just press Caps Lock, it'd switch to Latin
[14:20] <LjL> !it | led
[14:20] <Photoguy> Ok
[14:20] <LjL> Photoguy: could also always try asking in #ubuntu-il
[14:20] <LeD> »]] LjL [[« tnx
[14:20] <Photoguy> Ok, thanks! :)
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: http://vinuthomas.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=8316.html
[14:21] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: gMobilemedia reads .gammurc. It uses gammu as an engine, sort of.
[14:21] <rootrot> anyone here had any succsess useing her pixma mp240 under linux?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: this may shed some light: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221863
[14:22]  * heret1c http's
[14:22] <tj83> ikonia, if traceroute hits it why not a simple ping 192.168.1.99?
[14:22] <ikonia> tj83a good question, which I'm just researching
[14:23] <ikonia> tj83 thats a slow response time though
[14:23] <ikonia> tj83: 3002.508ms
[14:23] <tj83> well, got things like VNC, a couple ssh's plus streaming music locally lol
[14:24] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: it's about getting photos from the phone, not use it as a nic.
[14:24] <LjL> ikonia: is that a LAN?
[14:24] <ikonia> LjL vpn over a lan
[14:24] <youshaoyun> how to remove the installing of  wine softwares like thounder 5?
[14:24] <ikonia> LjL: vpn lan over internet sorry
[14:24] <LjL> ikonia: ah, ok. if it had been a real LAN, i'd have felt that "slow" would have been entirely an understatement...
[14:25] <ikonia> LjL still not great over the net
[14:25] <LjL> ikonia: certainly not, i get better pings when i'm talking to australia
[14:26] <ikonia> LjL: I wonder if he can't ping due to the timeout
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: can you connect to it with bluetooth instead?
[14:26] <LjL> ikonia: that can be tested with the -W option of ping
[14:27] <ikonia> LjL: just got that now
[14:27] <tj83> LjL, will try
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/index.php5?title=How_to:_Connect_to_the_Internet_via_Bluetooth
[14:27] <ikonia> tj83 set it stupid hard
[14:27] <LjL> ikonia: although i always had the feeling that the default timeout was infinite, but i might be wrong
[14:27] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: don't have bt. cable works fine with gnokii/gammu.
[14:27] <ikonia> tj83: stupid high
[14:27] <ikonia> LjL nah not infinate
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> heret1c: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/06/07/dialup-networking-via-treo-700p-and-ubuntu-usb-connection/
[14:27] <tj83> LjL, -w give a syntax problem wrong tag or something
[14:28] <LjL> tj83: uppercase -W
[14:28] <heret1c> ActionParsnip: don't have bt. don't need to use phone as nic (qed).
[14:28] <LjL> tj83: and you need to put a number after it (put like 15)
[14:28] <tj83> LjL, same
[14:28] <jeeez> ' Could not connect to 192.168.1.1:8080 (192.168.1.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)' i keep getting that error whenever i try updating! :(
[14:28] <ikonia> tLjL -W 30
[14:28] <jeeez> ardchoille: i did manage to get my net working :)
[14:28] <ikonia> tj83: infact -W 60
[14:28] <LjL> jeeez: you seem to be using (or at least attempting to be using) an HTTP proxy. are you aware of that?
[14:29] <lucky711x> AHHH what is wrong with my shell on my server...I can not execute any sudo or root commands...all i get in segmentation fault
[14:29] <jeeez> LjL: nope!
[14:29] <LjL> lucky711x: did you, like, ever enable third-party repositories (like Debian's) that could have provided a different libc6 than standard?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> lucky711x: check dmesg maybe
[14:29] <heret1c> afk45
[14:29] <joaopinto> lucky711x, what change did you apply to the system before getting that problem ?
[14:29] <LjL> jeeez: what does "echo $http_proxy" and "echo $HTTP_PROXY" say?
[14:29] <tj83> LjL, yes, is one of my objectives, the only one that works atm
[14:30] <tj83> and LjL ikonia ping -W 300 still not reachable
[14:30] <third3ye> Hey, I was wondering if there was an app in the repository that let you resize a batch of JPG images without having to go through Gimp or the like?
[14:30] <jeeez> LjL: http://192.168.1.1:8080/ and nothing, respectively
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> third3ye: imagemagick!!
[14:30] <LjL> third3ye: i don't know about graphical apps, but it can easily done with a simple script using, for instance, imagemagick
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> third3ye: its the best app EVER!
[14:30] <joaopinto> thiago_, there is an imageresize menu applet
[14:30] <joaopinto> ops, was third3ye
[14:31] <gunnarahlberg> my ubuntu intrepid is panicing from time to time! How do I debug it? Can't find a /var/log that has any information
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> third3ye: you can even batch convert jpg to png and invert colours etc
[14:31] <joaopinto> !best | ActionParsnip
[14:31] <LjL> jeeez: ok, so for some reason you have a proxy set when you really shouldn't. now... i can easily tell you how to *temporarily* disable it, but let me look for how to *permanently* disable it because i don't remember how that's done
[14:31] <joaopinto> :P
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: touche
[14:31] <lucky711x> ActionParsnip, LjL I made no changes all I did was add a new user and a new smb user then maybe came back 10 min later to find the problem
[14:31] <ikonia> tj83: apologies I was on the phone
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: for its size, its damn mighty
[14:31] <third3ye> Well I realise ImageMagick is great for that sort of stuff but I'm not really the scripting sort of guy ^^;; I'm more of your average liberal Linux user
[14:31] <phnom> Is there any simple way to force gnome-terminal to always start with always-on-top enabled?
[14:31] <jeeez> LjL: am using a net connection thru a router, tats the source of confusion?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> lucky711x: maybe a reboot would help
[14:32] <LjL> jeeez: no
[14:32] <ikonia> tj83 so if you do a ping -W 180 $ip it still times out
[14:32] <tj83> LjL, i'm easily confiused sorry, but i want this proxy to happen. its the shares i need to access
[14:32] <joaopinto> third3ye, the menu applet provides a resize option from the nautilus file menu
[14:32] <tj83> ikonia, yes, even went up to 300
[14:32] <tj83> confused*
[14:32] <ikonia> tj83 well, thats one theory out of the window
[14:32] <jeeez> LjL: okay
[14:32] <lucky711x> ActionParsnip, I tried that
[14:32] <LjL> tj83, the proxy i'm talking about is jeeez's
[14:32] <lucky711x> I can even drop to a root sheel
[14:33] <lucky711x> shell
[14:33] <TJ-42> what do I need to set (perhaps in my fstab) to give my users permission to "eject" a device?  the users can mount and unmount it just find
[14:33] <TJ-42> s/find/fine
[14:33] <third3ye> joaopinto: Thanks :D I found it now, seems like exactly what I need
[14:34] <mohbana__> am i the only one so is experiencing strange behaviour with firefox?
[14:34] <third3ye> joaopinto: Do I need to log in and out perhaps
[14:34] <ikonia> mohbana__: until you tell use the problem "yes"
[14:34] <heret1c>  heretic-hq kernel: [218986.297156] usb 4-3.2: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[14:34] <joaopinto> mohbana__, describe "strange behaviour"
[14:34] <heret1c> Dec  9 15:33:42 heretic-hq udevd-event[12673]: udev_node_mknod: rename(/dev/ttyUSB0.udev-tmp, /dev/ttyUSB0) failed: Device or resource busy
[14:34] <LjL> jeeez: alright, i can't find that information, let's go a bit by guessing... try doing "grep HTTP_PROXY ~/.*", does it turn up with anything?
[14:35] <mohbana__> well, some times right clicking a link doesn't show open in new tab-it's all pretty random
[14:35] <mohbana__> also, when i click new tab, nothing happens
[14:35] <mohbana__> again pretty random
[14:35] <JuJuBee> Greetings.
[14:35] <cristimarineru>  somewone know a way too emulate windows drivers for a usb tv tuner ?
[14:35] <ikonia> tj83: out of interent can you ping .103 from .99
[14:35] <makito249> I feel kind of stupid because it seems like there should be a really simply way to do this, but how do I sort by non-alphabetic characters?
[14:35] <ikonia> interest
[14:35] <makito249> I have a file that has a list of file names with a + or a - before them i.e. "+ /home/user/file \n -/home/user/file2" Sort will sort them alphabetically by filename, but not by the + or - in front of them.
[14:35] <jeeez> LjL: permission denied, even with sudo
[14:35] <mohbana__> and, when i click search for word.  it only shows google homepage
[14:35] <JuJuBee> can anyone see my posts?
[14:35] <ikonia> JuJuBee: yup
[14:36] <Aperculum> Is there anything like OllyDebug for ubuntu in ubuntu repositories
[14:36] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[14:36] <makito249> JuJuBee, I can
[14:36] <JuJuBee> ikonia : I get ":kubrick.freenode.net 404 JuJuBee #kubuntu :Cannot send to channel" at kubuntu for some reason.  What does this mean?
[14:36] <LjL> jeeez: uh? that really shouldn't happen, ~ is your home directory... (anyway i got it wrong because i said HTTP_PROXY, but if i'm not mistaken you said the one that showed up was http_proxy)
[14:36] <joaopinto> Aperculum, there should be graphical frontends to gdb
[14:36] <lucky711x> Aperculum, OllyDbg works good under wine
[14:36] <tj83> ikonia, LjL can we move to #seaphor ? gotta go for about 10 min brb
[14:36] <ikonia> tj83: sure
[14:36] <third3ye> Thanks for the help guys ^^ It's much appreciated
[14:36] <tj83> ikonia, LjL and many many thanks for your attention to my problem
[14:36] <LjL> jeeez: try like this: grep http_proxy $HOME/.*
[14:36] <brando> ikonia: still having aacraid trouble- I looked at "modinfo -p aacraid" but couldn't find any fitting kernel parameters for my AACRAID controller. I could use another hint...
[14:37] <jeeez> LjL: grep: /home/jeez/.gvfs: Permission denied
[14:37] <ikonia> brando: I don't know about that card off the top of my head, lets see if I can find any info on it
[14:37] <joaopinto> LjL, if he is using a proxy it should show up on: env | grep -i proxy
[14:37] <joaopinto> or,  grep -i proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*
[14:37] <LjL> joaopinto: he is using one, we already ascertained that - i just don't know how to permanently disable it
[14:37] <LjL> joaopinto: he has $http_proxy set
[14:37] <JuJuBee> ikonia : need to quit kopete alltogether?
[14:38] <joaopinto> LjL, if it is user wide, it's on the environment vars
[14:38] <LjL> jeeez: ok (that one failed file doesn't matter, but the command is saying it's not found anything)
[14:38] <LjL> joaopinto: yes, indeed, specifically it's the $http_proxy var. but i don't know *what has set it*
[14:38] <joaopinto> ah, sorry :P
[14:39] <LjL> jeeez: do you have gconf-editor installed?
[14:39] <jeeez> LjL: 'http_proxy=http://192.168.1.1:8080/'
[14:39] <jeeez> LjL: i dont
[14:39] <Aperculum> also, any assembler compilers in ubuntu repos?
[14:39] <jeeez> LjL: hey, wait, my bad, let me restart my system, should work!
[14:39] <joaopinto> Aperculum, go to the package manager and search
[14:39] <LjL> Aperculum: gcc will assemble assembly fine
[14:40] <LjL> jeeez: wait, why?
[14:40] <ssh> hi all
[14:40] <fosco_> too late, he took the win way :)
[14:41] <UnknownUser56> jeez ,shouldn't it be export http_proxy='http://ip:port/' for the terminal ?
[14:42] <Paddy_EIRE> UnknownUser56, what are you trying to achieve?
[14:42] <netrat> i have a server running Ubuntu 8.04.1 that authorizes users against an MS domain controller using kerberos. sometimes the authentications take extremely long, 1-2mins, is there a way to see what part of the process is holding things up? i've read the man page for pam_debug, but i can't make much sense out of it
[14:43] <jeeez> LjL: done! i had configured a proxy, trying to get my system to work with my router
[14:44] <LjL> jeeez: ah. how had you configured it, and how have you removed it now, for future reference?
[14:44] <jeeez> its a bug of some sort in 8.10, where you cant edit your current eth0 connection
[14:44] <ardchoille> jeeez: good job :)
[14:44] <OmnipotentEntity> anyone know where automount keeps a log (if it keeps a log)
[14:45] <jeeez> LjL: since it wouldn't get my router working, i tried configuring it as a proxy, no use
[14:46] <UnknownUser56> Paddy_EIRE,ah nevermind,thought he was setting a proxy for the terminal :)
[14:46] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[14:46] <jeeez> LjL: /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf you need to change managed=false to true, and you're all set!
[14:47] <LjL> jeeez: a proxy is a different thing. "managed" there would mean that things get configured automatically? or is it about wifi?
[14:47] <jeeez> LjL: you can add a new connection now, restart your pc and it should work fine!
[14:47] <heret1c> yo Paddy_EIRE .-)
[14:47] <jeeez> LjL: i got a new net connection this week, but 8.10 would let me edit the old connection, so had to create a new one!
[14:48] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, sorry about the long absence
[14:48] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, did you read the wiki on the sourceforge page to do with gmobilemedia
[14:48] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: no sweat.
[14:49] <dkloeckner> Kennt jemand nen guten deutschsprachigen Channel für Cisco Firewalls????
[14:49] <jeeez> LjL: thanks for your time!
[14:49] <Paddy_EIRE> !de | dkloeckner
[14:49] <dkloeckner> ...oder hat jemand erfahrung mit dem ding? ASA 5505
[14:49]  * heret1c is that -><- close to getting pix from'is mobile!
[14:49] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, hehe
[14:50] <mohbana__> what text editor allows me to do a word count?
[14:50] <OSiRiSSk> hi, can someone help me ?
[14:50] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: no. tried "documentation", nothing there.
[14:50]  * f00fyf00f3r Pbj
[14:50] <jeeez> OSiRiSSk: yeah?
[14:50] <Paddy_EIRE> mohbana__, it would be hard to find one that does not
[14:50] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, where are you so far to bring me up to speed
[14:51] <fluxy> hello, how can i find and mount my 2 ntfs partitions?
[14:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | fluxy
[14:51] <OSiRiSSk> can i burn ubuntu image (*.iso) on the dvd ? it will be bootable ?
[14:51] <mohbana__> Paddy_EIRE: was that helpful?  couldn't you have just told me one
[14:51] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: both gammu and gnokii connects through the serialUSB cable.,
[14:51] <fluxy> Paddy_EIRE,  thank you!
[14:52] <jeeez> OSiRiSSk: yeah it will be bootable
[14:52] <OSiRiSSk> ok, i will give it a shot :P
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> mohbana__, ofcourse it was helpful.. although you are asking a wide open question
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> fluxy, no problem
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, sounds like progress
[14:52] <OSiRiSSk> jeez thx :)
[14:52] <jeeez> OSiRiSSk: anytime! [good god you dint ask anything complex ;) ]
[14:52] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: gmobilemedia says: Error opening device: unknown/busy or no permissions.
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> mohbana__, and I use gedit myself
[14:53] <fluxy> Paddy_EIRE,  actually im using a knoppix live cd right now...what can i do ?
[14:53] <OSiRiSSk> jeeez: maybe i will ask something like that after instalation :D , i have to reinstall my xubuntu, cause i fucked it up a bit :D
[14:53] <Paddy_EIRE> fluxy, go to a knoppix support channel.. or boot back into ubuntu if you are running it and get back here :)
[14:53] <azurewrathx> HI to all!!!
[14:53] <jeeez> OSiRiSSk: we all do that, dont we! good luck!
[14:54] <moses> hallo
[14:54] <azurewrathx> Where i can find a full compete reference on all linux libc, x server, kde , gnome , kernel 2.6.x.x APIs ????
[14:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !language | OSiRiSSk
[14:54] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: this from syslog: heretic-hq udevd-event[12673]: udev_node_mknod: rename(/dev/ttyUSB0.udev-tmp, /dev/ttyUSB0) failed: Device or resource busy
[14:54] <azurewrathx> same to Msdn library...
[14:54] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, on the respective documentation for each of those components
[14:54] <azurewrathx> lol
[14:54] <ashutosh> Hi, can pendrive be used to boot ubuntu 8.10?
[14:55] <Paddy_EIRE> azurewrathx, google
[14:55] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, unlike msdn, this components are maintained by different parties, with different documentation infrastructure
[14:55] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: latter when connecting cable.,
[14:55] <Svenstaro> Does anybody here have experience with SCSI and multiple lun support and autochangers?
[14:55] <jeeez> ashutosh: yeah u can
[14:55] <azurewrathx> ok so for kernel apis?
[14:55] <azurewrathx> i get only oxigen
[14:55] <azurewrathx> but is really low reference
[14:55] <f00fyf00f3r> !usb | ashutosh
[14:55] <Paddy_EIRE> azurewrathx, they are all separate projects there is no all encompassing documentation
[14:56] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, google.com kernel documentation
[14:56] <lucky711x> someone help!! I no longer have root access to my server nor do I have access to sudo commands.  Anytime I try to run commands accompanied with sudo, it results in 'Segmentation Fault.' Does anyone know what is causing this?  They last time I change anything was when I added an SMB account for my wife and about 15 min later I tried to run a sudo command and now this...
[14:56] <ashutosh> is using pendrive faster than live cd?
[14:56] <Paddy_EIRE> ashutosh, not really
[14:56] <lucky711x> ashutosh, yes it is
[14:56] <azurewrathx> alredy done i get only a list of kernel api.... i need a docs whit explain all parameters of functions etc
[14:56] <f00fyf00f3r> Ashutosh: way slower in my experience
[14:57] <lucky711x> ashutosh, not much tho
[14:57] <Pigimon> hi can i make a question
[14:57] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, you don't usually interface with the kernel, unless you are developing a driver
[14:57] <lucky711x> Pigimon, dont ask to ask
[14:57] <error404notfound> When I play .vob in totem, the playback isn't very good, secondly I can hear all sounds except the voice of actors...
[14:57] <Pigimon> lol thats true
[14:57] <azurewrathx> i develop driver on Windows NT systems
[14:57] <joaopinto> you interface with libraries, so you need to get familiar with the docs for the specific libraries that you want to use
[14:57] <azurewrathx> Kernel mode
[14:57] <Pigimon> my gcc is not finding stdio.h
[14:58] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, if you are developing drivers, there are some good books for linux drivers development, you will need to read one of those
[14:58] <lucky711xx> someone help!! I no longer have root access to my server nor do I have access to sudo commands.  Anytime I try to run commands accompanied with sudo, it results in 'Segmentation Fault.' Does anyone know what is causing this?  They last time I change anything was when I added an SMB account for my wife and about 15 min later I tried to run a sudo command and now this...
[14:58] <JuJuBee> If I want to block irc using iptables, is it sufficient to block port 6667?
[14:58] <azurewrathx> alredy read one... :( o'really linux device drivers by i use only the apis decribed in the book... i need a full reaference
[14:58] <Pigimon> help: gcc is not recognizing stdio.h
[14:59] <tarokun> lucky711x: I would suggest trying su - then visudo
[14:59] <error404notfound> JuJuBee: nope, different irc server use different ports, but mostly 6667... and then there is irc in web browser..
[14:59] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: did that make sense?
[14:59] <lucky711xx> tarokun, I have...no luck
[14:59] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, there are tons of drivers and their source on the kernel, just look at one that matches your requirements
[14:59] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, sadly I do not have the phone myself to really help much further
[14:59] <JuJuBee> error404notfound: bummer.  any suggestions?
[15:00] <error404notfound> lucky711xx: do you have physical acess to server?
[15:00] <error404notfound> JuJuBee: well always configure an exclusive firewall, ban all stuff except what you need, otherwise will mostly leave you vulnerable..
[15:00] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: strange both gammu and gnokii should work, then.
[15:00] <lucky711xx> error404notfound, yes im on it
[15:01] <jeeez> JuJuBee: nice name :)
[15:01] <JuJuBee> Yea, the web stuff is the problem I guess...
[15:01] <JuJuBee> Thanks jeeez
[15:01] <JuJuBee> Throwback to when I was a kid...
[15:01] <JuJuBee> Loved em
[15:01] <azurewrathx> mmm i have think it but if i wonna make a custom kernel module or a simple program where i find reference on APIs? I can't see all linux source code LOL!!! In MS MSDN you have a well explation on win32 developing, interfaces apis etc and is not open source... linux is open source and don't have a full api reference LOOL!! omg -.-
[15:01] <jeeez> JuJuBee: tamil, by any chance?
[15:01] <JuJuBee> Nope
[15:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | azurewrathx
[15:01] <error404notfound> lucky711xx; then reboot in to single user mode, and enter root password, and check from there for commands of sudo and su, such as permissions on them, sticky bit, I don't know if it will solve the problem, but worth a try..
[15:01] <jeeez> JuJuBee: name means?
[15:02] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, since your question is not ubuntu specific, you may prefer to ask in on ##linux
[15:02] <Paddy_EIRE> azurewrathx, you already received several answers
[15:02] <azurewrathx> ok thk for all
[15:02] <azurewrathx> someone know a channel for talking on driver e appl linux developement?
[15:02] <azurewrathx> :)
[15:03] <JuJuBee> jeeez: a candy
[15:03] <lucky711xx> error404notfound, ive tried all the above
[15:03] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, for application development it will depend on the language, there are plenty of language specific channels here
[15:03] <JuJuBee> jeeez: http://www.oldtimecandy.com/jujubes.htm
[15:03] <lucky711xx> error404notfound, also nothing in the logs
[15:03] <joaopinto> !c
[15:03] <azurewrathx> i'm on assembly x86 , c, c++
[15:03] <JuJuBee> Oh, and I also raise honney bees, hence the double e...
[15:03] <error404notfound> lucky711xx: then consult gurus, I myself am a noob :D
[15:03] <azurewrathx> know some channels on this argument?
[15:03] <AaronMT> !c#
[15:04] <lucky711xx> error404notfound, thanks for trying tho
[15:04] <error404notfound> !ubottu
[15:04] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, what type of application are you developing ?
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > JuJuBee
[15:04] <azurewrathx> security app
[15:04] <qbmaniac_work> hey guys
[15:04] <qbmaniac_work> anyone know how to make a USB bootable?
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[15:05] <azurewrathx> but i need docs or no party
[15:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !offtopic | azurewrathx joaopinto
[15:05] <joaopinto> azurewrathx, security as in ? What's the purpose of it ?
[15:05] <AaronMT> yo has ff 3.1b2 hit repos?
[15:05] <jeeez> JuJuBee: wow, i always thot it was a tamil word for the candy!
[15:05] <joaopinto> Paddy_EIRE, I am trying to advice in a programming language based on his requirement, I am not sure that is offtopic
[15:05] <Paddy_EIRE> joaopinto, it is
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> joaopinto  it is
[15:05] <azurewrathx> ok sry i'm offtopic i leave
[15:05] <JuJuBee> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry :(
[15:05] <azurewrathx> good day to all
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:06] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: gmobilemedia is a bit short on documentation.
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> MOrning Paddy
[15:06] <joaopinto> ok, I don't agree but the majority wins
[15:06] <Paddy_EIRE> aaroncampbell, no and it will not
[15:06] <AaronMT> rofl
[15:06] <Paddy_EIRE> errr
[15:06]  * aaroncampbell had nothing to do with this...
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> AaronMT It was just released like ..yesterday.. so doubtful
[15:07] <Paddy_EIRE> joaopinto, this aint exactly difficult to understand... read the topic perhaps :)
[15:07] <AaronMT> well?
[15:07] <Paddy_EIRE> AaronMT, it wont be making it into any of the official ubuntu repositories
[15:07] <joaopinto> Paddy_EIRE, I have read the topic, i do not see how suggesting a developing language to use on a Ubuntu system is different from suggesting any other type of tool, based on the user requirement :)
[15:08] <Paddy_EIRE> joaopinto, still completely missing the point.. but I guess I should stop wasting my time
[15:08] <JuJuBee> Any idea what to do about screen fliker with intrepid and Nvidia GeForce 8600 512MB video card?
[15:08] <Paddy_EIRE> JuJuBee, when is your screen flickering?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> JuJuBee Do you still have the issue if you turn off effects
[15:08] <JuJuBee> I get a fliker about every 3 seconds or so.
[15:09] <JuJuBee> I tried that... Yes still.
[15:09] <JuJuBee> About 3 weeks ago someone said this is known problem.  Was hoping there was a solution.
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> JuJuBee the 8000's have had issuses as long as they have been out, even back two releases
[15:10] <jrib> JuJuBee: if it's a known problem, there should be a related bug report, did you check that?
[15:10] <knut> ardchoille?
[15:11] <JuJuBee> Jack_Sparrow: It didn't fliker till I updated to intrepid.
[15:11] <JuJuBee> jrgp: I will check again...
[15:11] <JuJuBee> sry... jrib.
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> JuJuBee I had intrepid issues on the main box here so it is still an old release
[15:12] <X1karr0usX> Morning
[15:13] <JuJuBee> Jack_Sparrow: I don't understand, isn't intrepid the most recent release?
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> JuJuBee yes
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> JuJuBee I am using an old release of ubuntu here..
[15:13] <JuJuBee> Ah.
[15:13] <JuJuBee> You get flicker?
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> nope
[15:14] <sidd> hi, i am facing a unique problem, my ubuntu boots only from cdrom-boot from first hard disk
[15:14] <Paddy_EIRE> sidd, that would not be unique :)
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd see grub... info
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > sidd
[15:14] <xirongwing> my laptop wirless card is always disable.How to enable it
[15:15] <trisinger> i have a small script that uses SSH_ASKPASS to force login without a tty.  the script write a dummy script on the fly that echo the password to ssh.  it works perfectly from the terminal, but not from within a PHP script/apache user.  i tried adding www-data to all the same groups as me, no avail
[15:15] <trisinger> http://pastebin.com/mc503a7a
[15:15] <sidd> ubottu: thanks.  i _did_ go through the docs at ubuntu.com
[15:16] <xirongwing> my laptop wirless card is always disable.How to enable it
[15:16] <trisinger> it took me forever to get that script working for SSH without a pass, now i just need php to play nicely
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd Sounds like you are dual booting?  How many drives?
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > xirongwing
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> trisinger perhaps /j #bash
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> trisinger or #Apache
[15:17] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, could you structure your question a little better so we can assist you as best as possible
[15:17] <trisinger> i will bothj
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE thanks,, that was mynext line.. what card/chipset
[15:17] <trisinger> but any insight here is appreciated
[15:17] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: u giving up?
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> trisinger Perhaps #Ubuntu-server ?  just trying to point you in a better direction for answers
[15:19] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, I doubt I would be able to provide you with adequate support as I have no experience with that mobile telephone :/
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> xirongwing Find Network Card Chipset:  "sudo lshw -C network"   in a terminal it will show the networking card/chipset
[15:19] <ubuntu__> hello
[15:20] <ubuntu__> please tell me what command lists all partitions or file systems?
[15:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu__, df
[15:20] <ubuntu__> sorry about question mark
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo fdisk -l
[15:20] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: it seems more to be about groups/permissions than the hw per se.
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu__ that was for you
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu__ Last letter is an L
[15:21] <ubuntu__> Paddy_EIRE, im from eire too, dublin
[15:21] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah heret1c it "seems" that way but I would just be shooting in the dark
[15:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu__, hi
[15:22] <xirongwing> Jack_Sparrow:which line tells the chipset
[15:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> what is a kernel header ?
[15:22]  * heret1c hands paddy a pair of IR goggles
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > DJ_HaMsTa
[15:23] <magnetron> hi, i'm starting to have problems with my ssh tunnels for my irc bouncer. they disconnect after 10 minutes or so. is it possible that the ssh server admin has put a time limit on SSH tunnels? this is the command i use to set up the tunnels: screen -d -m -S irssi-ssh-tunnel -t irssi-ssh-tunnel ssh -NC -L 2777:localhost:2777 -L 2778:localhost:2778 username@sshserver.example
[15:23] <sidd> ubottu: about the grub how-to,what am i looking for? i couldn't find any mention of a similar problem as mine.
[15:24] <Paddy_EIRE> sidd, that is a bot you are talking to
[15:24] <sidd> heh, i thot he was joking :)
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd Did you ever answer my earlier question?
[15:24] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: ummm, can u pls come by me again?
[15:24] <xirongwing> Jack_Sparrow:Intel prowireless 2100B
[15:25] <dimedo> how can i get a list of all packages which i have manually installed (none with automatic flag)?
[15:25] <ubuntu__> im trying to install grub but get this error, Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[15:25] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: yes, dual booting. only one disk
[15:25] <sidd> Win-XP
[15:26] <ubuntu__> does anybody know how to fix the problem?
[15:26] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, could you please go to "System > Administration > Hardware Drivers"
[15:27] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, tell me what you see?
[15:27] <messju> hi, since upgrading to intrepid I get errors when saving files from emacs on a cifs volumne ("Opening output file, not a directory") - i think I tried all combinations of mount options without success and also google did not bring up a solution to fix it. :( did anybody here have similar problems (overwriting files on a cifs volume) and knows a solution?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu__ install grub to the mbr or follow the info on instlling grub after windows install removes it.. write it to the mbr
[15:28] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: I got the same problem with Fedora 9 on the same machine
[15:28] <ubuntu__> Jack_Sparrow, how do you install it to the mbr?
[15:28] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE:no proprietary drivers are used in this system
[15:28] <lesshaste> hi.. what's the best voice control software for ubuntu currently?
[15:28] <knut> ardchoille
[15:28] <knut> ?
[15:29] <lesshaste> to control your system using voice I mean
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu__ Please read the tutorial
[15:29] <ubuntu__> Jack_Sparrow, I was trying sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[15:29] <ubuntu__> Jack_Sparrow, ok where?
[15:29] <ubuntu__> google?
[15:29] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, do "lspci" and "lsusb" separately in a terminal and pastebin the output then return the link here
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[15:30] <BenHoltz> Can Someone help me with an issue with compiz?
[15:30] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone
[15:30] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to open a .chm document...though i have installed wine and chm...can anyone help
[15:30] <Paddy_EIRE> DarkKnight, perhaps install a native linux chm viewer
[15:30] <jrib> DarkKnight: you don't need wine.  Try gnochm or xchm
[15:30] <bp5101> DarkKnight: please see http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/20/how-to-view-chm-files-in-ubuntu-810/
[15:31] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: what is pastebin
[15:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin | xirongwing
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[15:31] <BenHoltz> I am not able to see the menu options like file, option, and such, in open office when the standard settings are applied with compiz, any suggestions?
[15:31] <Paddy_EIRE> be right back xirongwing gotta take a call
[15:32] <lamur> haoi
[15:32] <lamur>  how are you guys
[15:32] <BenHoltz> good
[15:32] <lamur> oke
[15:32] <Mingebag> oh, hello there
[15:33] <lamur> i want to know if you can open programs from my terminal
[15:33] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE:http://paste.ubuntu.com/83004/
[15:33] <ompaul> lamur, I can't but you can
[15:33] <DarkKnight> Paddy_EIRE, jrib, bp5101; thanq buddies
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lamur yes
[15:33] <cmv583> Can anyone help me
[15:34] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: Is there a how to for troubleshooting grub behaviour due to wierd hw?
[15:34] <lamur> oke jack_sparrow
[15:34] <lamur> how do i do it
[15:34] <ompaul> !cli | lamur
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd your problem is quite common... what command are you giving from what tutorial.
[15:34] <sidd> lamur: i suppose if you just type the name of the program it should start
[15:34] <sc303171> yea
[15:35] <jedi06> cd perl
[15:35] <sc303171> and if you  type the program name followed by &, it runs in the background so you can continue to use the terminal.  for example,  firefox & runs firefox
[15:35] <x-kent> with what program in ubuntu 8.10 I can make a movie like "windows movie maker" ? Just some picture slideshow and some text appearing here and there ?
[15:35] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: I went through the tutorial but couldn't find anything that described my situation. I have grub installed on the MBR, I get the boot menu, if i press enter on ubuntu, i get a blank screen with a blinking cursor on top
[15:36] <lamur> oke thank you sidd
[15:36] <lamur> and others
[15:36] <BenHoltz> is there any known limitations for the geforce2 cards with compiz?
[15:36] <lamur> it is yust typing the program name
[15:36] <Armada> My libav codec is only using one thread, where can I configure it to use both threads?
[15:36] <sidd> if i boot from cd, select boot from first hdd, and then select ubuntu from the menu that pops up, it boots giving some warning about nonpnp bios.
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lamur yes... try typing synaptic
[15:37] <xirongwing> how to tell what hardware profile in 8.10
[15:38] <joaopinto> Armada, the number of threads is mostly to be set by the application, not by the library itself
[15:38] <maek0> lol @ security update for Compiz .......
[15:38] <MTecknology> anybody have any guesses what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/m2108b3da
[15:38] <Armada> joaopinto: ok, where can I set the number of threads for MPlayer?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology Please post a description of the problem along with your link
[15:39] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: moreover, i am on the same machine so i need to be sure of what i need to do before i reboot :(
[15:39] <cmv583> How can I use my ext. HD to run my comp., or at least save/run apps (hopefully run OS)
[15:39] <MTecknology> Jack_Sparrow: I'm trying to compile a program using make and it dies
[15:39] <knut> ardchoille
[15:39] <joaopinto> Armada, no idea, I am not a multimedia person, and you are probably referring to the number of processors (2), not threads ;)
[15:39] <maek0> OMG this is the FUNNIEST bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-plugins-main/+bug/247088
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> maek0 Please dont
[15:40] <Mingebag> oh, hello there
[15:40] <xirongwing> where to find the device manager in 8.10
[15:40] <Armada> joaopinto, well, atleast you know what I mean :P
[15:40] <sidd> MTecknology: seems the X11 libraries are not installed
[15:40] <lucky711x> I was able to fix my su and root problemm...there is aparently something wrong with the ubunut package libpam-smbpass so I have to remove it.
[15:40] <maek0> Jack_Sparrow, don't what ?? Its an important security update that I think is entirely related to support ... and just happens to be funny
[15:40] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, ok so did you paste that data I asked for ?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> maek0 Did you have a question?
[15:41] <LjL> maek0, do you have a problem related to that bug or are you responding to someone who does?
[15:41] <MTecknology> sidd: xorg-dev ?
[15:41] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83004/
[15:41] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, and Ubuntu is not windows so there is no device manager :)
[15:41] <sidd> MTecknology: lets first check if it isn't installed or just not found
[15:41] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, ok just a moment
[15:42] <sidd> try updatedb and locate Xlib.h
[15:42] <maek0> Jack LjL no just letting everyone know about it .. sheesh !!!
[15:42] <Pici> maek0: That bug has already been fixed. See the status.
[15:42] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: how to tell the hardware profile then?
[15:42] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, huh?
[15:43] <maek0> Pici, yep .. and its in the updates .. I just think its the funniest bug ever .. lol
[15:43] <svolpe> I'm writing a python-dbus script and have had no luck with the following: bus = dbus.SystemBus();  I imported dbus.  has this been changed with ubuntu 8.10?
[15:43] <mphill> I am usnig intrepid/i386.  When I go to browse our network at work all the workgroup/domains show up but I have no computers that show up in natilus. I can use smb4k (a kde app) to browse just fine form the same computer. help.
[15:43] <Pici> maek0: And its not on topic for this channel.
[15:43] <maek0> Pici, it is incidental that I find it funny
[15:44] <MTecknology> sidd: not found
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> MTecknology Looks more like gtk2 issue to me
[15:44] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: in 7.10 there is a application that tells me what hardware is build inside my computer
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > maek0
[15:44] <sidd> MTecknology: then you need to install the dev packages for X. am not sure which ones but if you google it you may find them
[15:44] <joaopinto> MTecknology, what program are you trying to build ? please pastebin your error
[15:44] <MTecknology> joaopinto: I did
[15:44] <mikubuntu> anybody else having trouble updating the compiz fusion update through the manager?  i keep getting msg that ubuntu faild to fetch the file
[15:44] <joaopinto> ops, sorry, let me scroll
[15:44] <MetalliMyers> hello mumbles
[15:44] <maek0> drop it please !!
[15:45] <bazhang> maek0, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <afallenhope|work> Anyone able to help me out? Trying to get myATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] to work.The driver itself works (the default) however the glx does not.. I lose my display.  I'm trying to get dual monitors to work.. I get "two monitors" but cloned output. I was to split the view.,
[15:45] <joaopinto> MTecknology, you need libx11-dev
[15:45] <MTecknology> ty
[15:45] <cmv583> Please maeko, I need help not conversation.
[15:45] <Armada> joaopinto, you sure it's not the decoder that needs to be multithreaded?
[15:46] <joaopinto> Armada, I am not sure
[15:46] <sidd> has anyone faced a problem with grub showint the menu but not booting without any messages, while it boots from the CD with the same setup?
[15:47] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, ok.. I will just be another moment.. just trying to gather some info
[15:48] <xirongwing> thanks
[15:48] <sidd> am using a Dell Optiplex 320
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd remove quiet and splash and try to see any errors
[15:48] <afallenhope|work> any one?
[15:49] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: okay. tnx.
[15:49] <datou> 大家晚上好
[15:49] <MetalliMyers> hi cut-copy
[15:49] <bazhang> !cn | datou
[15:49] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, ok so you have to use ndiswrapper it seems
[15:49] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, join #Paddy_EIRE
[15:50] <Neku> hi im having a problem with k3b it keeps saying Cd record has no permission to open device can anyone help
[15:50] <mphill> I found the answer to me question of not being able to browse windows networks with 8.10 at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+question/50909. there is a bug in 8.10
[15:50] <remoteCTRL> anyone know any dj software for linux like bpmstudio or traktor?
[15:50] <MTecknology> This is my new error when I try to build - http://pastebin.com/m4fffd90
[15:50] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: I have install
[15:51] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, what?
[15:51] <joaopinto> MTecknology, that is not an error, just a warning, the build was successful
[15:51] <Neku> hi im having a problem with k3b it keeps saying Cd record has no permission to open device can anyone help
[15:51] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: I have install the ndiswrapper
[15:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Neku, join #kubuntu or #kde
[15:51] <ardchoille> Neku: join #kubuntu for kde help
[15:51] <MTecknology> joaopinto: oops - am I perhaps too tired to build something like this??
[15:52] <woodoo> hello
[15:52] <woodoo> =)
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Neku there used to be a menu optionin k3b to enable your users rights to burn
[15:52] <joaopinto> MTecknology, it is built, now you need to install it, presumably with "make install"
[15:52] <woodoo> how are you
[15:52] <woodoo> ?
[15:52] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, ok.. beyond installing ndiswrapper how much farther did you go?
[15:52] <joaopinto> !enter | woodoo
[15:52] <cmv583> good woodoo, just waiting my turn
[15:52] <MTecknology> aight, I'm gonna try to see if the new package helps and then take this aproach, thanks
[15:52] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: nonthing else
[15:53] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, good.. ok join #Paddy_EIRE
[15:53] <Neku> Paddy_EIRE:  but im on ubuntu...isnt kubuntu different
[15:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Neku, k3b is a kde application
[15:53] <Neku> kk
[15:54] <Neku> Paddy_EIRE:  can u give me a link to kubuntu
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Neku /j #Kubuntu
[15:55] <cwe_bth_duit> #surabaya
[15:55] <StyXman> during the instalation I selected a partition for / which already has data that IO want to keep (/home, mostly). it says, and I quote, "Directories containing system files [...] that already exist under any defined mountpoint [sic] will be deleted during the install." is it saying that it will nuke /home and /opt?
[15:55] <jrib> StyXman: yes
[15:55] <StyXman> it will delete /home and /opt?
[15:55] <StyXman> how can I keep that data?
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[15:55] <jrib> StyXman: yes, it reformats afaik
[15:56] <macjason0607> hey .. there any app that can read a hfs volume ?
[15:56] <Mingebag> hello
[15:56] <Mingebag> hi
[15:56] <StyXman> no, I didn't ask him for formatting it, I explicitly tell it *not* to do it
[15:56] <Maveas> How do I get PS CS3 and Adobes other apps to work under Ubuntu? :S
[15:56] <xirongwing> what is the "device manager" for ubuntu 8.10 as compare to windows
[15:56] <Maveas> I've tried with this guide http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-install-dreamweaver-cs3-in-ubuntu-hardy/2008/06/20 but it doesn't seem to work
[15:56] <joaopinto> Styrbjorn, /home will not be deleted, I am not sure about /opt
[15:56] <bazhang> !appdb | Maveas
[15:57] <karllenz> hey i neeed some help i installed xp on a seprate hdd partition and now i lost my ubuntu no grub boot loader shows up at boot up?? is there a fix
[15:57] <StyXman> the message says (just before that sentence) "The filesystem on /dev/sda1 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting."
[15:57] <Maveas> bazhang, omg, take a look at the link
[15:57] <joaopinto> !grub | karllenz
[15:57] <Maveas> I've already tried wine
[15:57] <StyXman> so, will it delete them or not? themesasge is more confusing than clear in that aspect
[15:57] <joaopinto> StyXman, I am sure it will remove /usr /bin /lib, /var etc, I am just unsure about /opt
[15:58] <StyXman> joaopinto: that's fine. what abput /home?
[15:58] <StyXman> (it shoud, this used to be a FC3)
[15:58] <afallenhope|work> Anyone able to help me out? Trying to get myATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] to work.The driver itself works (the default) however the glx does not.. I lose my display.  I'm trying to get dual monitors to work.. I get "two monitors" but cloned output. I was to split the view.,
[15:58] <jrib> StyXman: must be some new option I'm not familiar with.  Personally, I would have backups anyway.  And I'd try an experiment in a virtual machine
[15:58] <joaopinto> Styrbjorn, /home will be kept, but if you reallllllly care about the data, you have backups :)
[15:58] <StyXman> joaopinto: ok :|
[15:59] <joaopinto> I already experimented, it did not delete /home
[15:59] <StyXman> joaopinto: so is it safe?
[15:59] <StyXman> ok, i guess it is
[15:59] <sidd> Jack_Sparrow: i tried rebooting w/o splash and quiet. there are no messages whatsoever
[15:59] <afallenhope|work> that's why having /home on a different partition is fun
[15:59] <joaopinto> the ability to reinstal without removing /home was implemented on the latest version, so it is not a widely tested option
[15:59]  * StyXman x'ses fingers
[15:59] <StyXman> afallenhope|work: i know, not my choice
[15:59] <StyXman> joaopinto: uhnnngngn
[16:00] <joaopinto> StyXman, I had a problem, the kernel was not properly installed, but I believe it was fixed in the 8.10 final :P
[16:00] <StyXman> joaopinto: ktx
[16:01] <cmv583> anyone hear me?
[16:01] <StyXman> cmv583: loud and clear?
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[16:01] <cmv583> tx wasn't sure very new
[16:03] <bazhang> cmv583, you want to dual boot with xp on one hdd and ubuntu on the other?
[16:03] <zheng> 大家好
[16:03] <bazhang> !cn | zheng
[16:04] <cmv583> yeah my int. is 10g and ext. is 500g
[16:04] <cmv583> ubuntu is on int. already
[16:05] <bazhang> cmv583, not sure what the question is then; you need help installing grub?
[16:05] <rikiyo> voisiko joku kertoa suomeksi mistä saa ubuntuun waretus ohjelman hyvän sellaisen
[16:05] <jrib> !fi | rikiyo
[16:05] <bazhang> !fi | rikiyo
[16:06] <linfenix> saludos...
[16:06] <linfenix> salguien me puede decir como busco los bookmarks que tengo en el firefox para guardarlos?
[16:07] <cmv583> I am not very experienced. Not sure how to safely transfer files off int. hd onto ext. hd. Can't seem to re-install ubuntu onto ext.hd?
[16:07] <jrib> !place | linfenix
[16:07] <jrib> oops
[16:07] <bazhang> heh
[16:07] <jrib> !es | linfenix
[16:09] <relik77080> hi - if i wanted to run a sequence of commands as one command - how would i do that? would I need to write a script?
[16:09] <Paddy_EIRE> relik77080, well depends on what you are looking to do
[16:10] <relik77080> bascially after i login i want to be able to run a set of programs
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> relik77080 && between them
[16:10] <cmv583> bazhang, I can't stand windows, and like ubuntu but not used to it. Trying to use the smallest amount of my int. hd.
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[16:10] <relik77080> ah ok
[16:10] <bazhang> cmv583, if you could specify what errors you are getting while trying to install on external hdd it would make giving an answer easier
[16:10] <archman> guys does anyone know how to uninstall lmms 0.4.0 built and installed from source? cannot find nothing, also they do not respond on (##lmms)
[16:10] <peterloorke> hi, is it possible to hide a working program (like deluge)? i don't want my roommate to find that deluge is working but i don't want to lock screen cuz he'll use my computer for 2 days
[16:10] <outoftime> hi all - anyone have a recommendation for laptop hardware for running ubuntu? i've been all-apple for so long i have no idea what's good...
[16:11] <Slart> relik77080: && means to run the next command only if the previous one succeded.. "," to run it whatever happens.. I think this is a bash function so man bash for more info
[16:11] <archman> i made 'make' now, and make uninstall doesnt work...no info in readme
[16:11] <relik77080> THANKS Slart
[16:11] <Slart> outoftime: bring a live cd to the store and try it on the computer you're thinking or buying
[16:12] <cmv583> not getting errors, just won't run ISO disk now. Just opens the same ubuntu i have on int. hd already.
[16:12] <outoftime> Slart: good though - thank you
[16:12] <garrett88> hey guys, firefox seems to crash occasionally when im watching flash videos. any ideas on how to stop this?
[16:12] <Slart> outoftime: make sure to test wireless, graphics, sound and the extra buttons laptops usually have
[16:12] <Slart> outoftime: also webcams can be tricky
[16:12] <squirt94_> Hey guys
[16:12] <archman> garrett88: install new flasf 10, it helped me
[16:13] <outoftime> Slart: will do
[16:13] <archman> garrett88: flash**
[16:13] <remoteCTRL> anyone know a dj software for linux? like bpmstudio or traktor?
[16:13] <squirt94_> I have a problem i have windows xp installed on /dev/sda3 how do i dualboot this with the bunutu instakllled on /dev/sda2?
[16:13] <fivetwentysix> Where is the fonts directory in Ubuntu?
[16:13] <afallenhope|work> Anyone able to help me out? Trying to get myATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] to work.The driver itself works (the default) however the glx does not.. I lose my display.  I'm trying to get dual monitors to work.. I get "two monitors" but cloned output. I was to split the view.,
[16:14] <afallenhope|work> !fonts fivetwentysix
[16:14] <soppman> hi
[16:14] <afallenhope|work> !fonts
[16:14] <NicEXE> I need a good cd/dvd bunring app that can handle the most popular image types (like cue bin iso etc)
[16:14] <afallenhope|work> !fonts > fivetwentysix
[16:14] <fivetwentysix> Thank you
[16:14] <afallenhope|work> no prob bob
[16:14] <Static--> whats the command for starting GDM ?
[16:14] <Static--> to test a theme
[16:14] <truthfatal> archman, you could look through the source to see if the $DESTDIR variable is available, and if it is you can 'DESTDIR=/somedir make install' then you could look through that dir to verify which files need to be removed from your system... as well as the /somedir temp directory
[16:14] <afallenhope|work> Static--, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[16:14] <Slart> Static--: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start is one way
[16:15] <soppman> i have a problem with my sound, for reason my sound is coming out from red output on my soundcard instead of the green where i have simply better and louder sound, anyone knows where i can change this?
[16:15] <mirko_> hello.. do anyone know what version is the default kde on intrepid? is it kde 4?
[16:15] <Static--> thatnks
[16:15] <garrett88> archman: I forgot to mention, I had actually tried but I couldnt get it installed. Im new to linux... whats the besst way to go about this? I have a 64 bit system if that makes a difference
[16:15] <afallenhope|work> no pro Static--
[16:15] <squirt94_> I have a problem i have windows xp installed on /dev/sda3 how do i dualboot this with the bunutu instakllled on /dev/sda2?
[16:15] <Slart> mirko_: not sure if they've moved on to v4.. perhaps ask in #kubuntu if you don't get an any answers here
[16:15] <mirko_> thank you Slart
[16:16] <archman> garrett88: dont know bout 64bit, but you have to dl flash driver in tar from macromedia and unpack it in plugins folder in .mozilla or .firefox... try
[16:16] <squirt94_> I have a problem i have windows xp installed on /dev/sda3 how do i dualboot this with the bunutu instakllled on /dev/sda2?
[16:16] <afallenhope|work> Anyone able to help me out? Trying to get my ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] to work.The driver itself works (the default) however the glx does not.. I lose my display.  I'm trying to get dual monitors to work.. I get "two monitors" but cloned output. I was to split the view.,
[16:16] <bazhang> cmv583, did you set in bios to boot from cd first?
[16:16] <Slart> squirt94_: if you install ubuntu after you installed windows I think it will put a menu choice in your grub menu for booting windows.. but it's not that hard to create it yourself
[16:16] <garrett88> alright, ill give that a shot
[16:17] <archman> garrett: ctrl+H in your home and find .mozilla or .firefox or similar
[16:17] <bcardarella> I'm having a problem with bash. I just created a user and I'm ssh'ed into the server. The bash prompt doesn't allow me to use backspace. Any ideas?
[16:17] <squirt94_> Slart i= dd install ubuntu afterwards but it just shows ubuntu like 5 times and Memtest
[16:17] <cmv583> not sure but did choose to boot from cd first
[16:17] <Slart> !grub | squirt94_ here's some info about grub.. check the "recover grub after windows install" link
[16:18] <squirt94_> I need to add Windows XP to the GRUB MEnu and it's installled on /dev/sda2.
[16:18] <Slart> squirt94_: basicall you have to add 4-5 lines to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[16:18] <squirt94_> but every tutoril ive followed has either said disk error, or NTLDR is missing
[16:18] <cmv583> not very literate when it comes to comps. trying though please bear with me:-[
[16:19] <Slart> squirt94_: then either the tutorials are wrong or you're doing something wrong.. can you start by pastebinning (is that even a word??) your current menu.lst?
[16:19] <Slart> !paste | squirt94_
[16:19] <bazhang> cmv583, please affix my name to your posts :) (just baz <tab>)
[16:19] <archman> truthfatal: thanks for your help, though i want the 'real' solution hehe :)
[16:19] <cmv583> ?how?
[16:20] <EDinNY> Can anyone help me mount a compact flash drive from my camera?  I thought it would happen automatically.  The kernel DOES see it
[16:20] <bazhang> cmv583, use tab complete; just type three or so letters then hit the tab key
[16:20] <cmv583> bazhang:
[16:20] <bazhang> cmv583, :)
[16:21] <bazhang> cmv583, is this external hdd going to be portable or more a permanent type deal
[16:21] <squirt94_> ok ill send pastebin link now.
[16:21] <garrett88> archman: or anyone, is the folder called "plugins" inside .mozilla? i dont see it anywhere if that is the case
[16:21] <cmv583> permanent
[16:21] <Slart> squirt94_: ok
[16:21] <squirt94_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83019/
[16:22] <archman> garress: yes, your libflashplayer.so file has to be in it, put it in, your new version 10...enjoy!
[16:22] <EDinNY> Linux used to see my flash drive when I used Kubuntu 6.1.  It does not for Ubuntu 8.1...any ideas?
[16:22] <archman> garrett88:  yes, your libflashplayer.so file has to be in it, put it in, your new version 10...enjoy!
[16:22] <cmv583> pretty much want to use it for everything. is that poss.
[16:22] <Ward1983> can i put ubuntu on a external harddrive and make it boot on pretty much any x86 PC, and autodetect for the right drivers? (and i would need proprietary drivers, not just vesa)
[16:22] <archman> garrett: in .mozilla, sorry  :)
[16:23] <bazhang> cmv583, you still there?
[16:23] <cmv583> yep
[16:23] <Slart> squirt94_: ok.. seems like you already have a menu item for windows xp.. it's the last 5 or so lines in that file.. where did you say your windows install was located.. what hard drive?
[16:24] <squirt94_> What do you mean by harddrive
[16:24] <Kikkoman> Does anyone know the package for installing gcc?
[16:24] <archman> garrett: try .firefox, .firefox2 or .firefox3 also
[16:24] <archman> Kikkoman: install it via synaptic
[16:24] <LtL> Kikkoman: build-essential provides gcc
[16:24] <Slart> squirt94_: my bad.. I mean partition.. where is it located.. on /dev/sda3? somewhere else?
[16:24] <Kikkoman> I'm in the terminal, I need to install the nvidia driver
[16:24] <squirt94_> /dev/sda3
[16:24] <Slart> squirt94_: you can start gparted to take a look at your drives/partitions
[16:25] <squirt94_> Ill do that
[16:25] <Kikkoman> startx says that it cannot find any screens
[16:25] <afallenhope|work> Anyone able to help me out? Trying to get my ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] to work.The driver itself works (the default) however the glx does not.. I lose my display.  I'm trying to get dual monitors to work.. I get "two monitors" but cloned output. I was to split the view.,
[16:25] <Slart> squirt94_: I would change the line "root (hd1,0)
[16:25] <corky`> I once killed gnome-volume-controll daemon once, And now it isn't showing anymore in my dock (standard right-up side of the screen), How do I get it back again?
[16:26] <Kikkoman> It says "build-essential" has no installation candidate
[16:26] <squirt94_> /dev/sda3 is XP /dev/sda2 is Linux and /dev/sd1 IS RECOVERY
[16:26] <squirt94_> Which line?
[16:26] <cmv583> bazhang, u there?
[16:26] <Paddy_EIRE> !info build-essential | Kikkoman
[16:26] <bazhang> cmv583, you have ubuntu installed on the internal drive? maybe you would like to move your home to a separate drive?
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart sda3 ? would be hd0,2 right
[16:26] <bazhang> cmv583, err /home
[16:26] <Slart> squirt94_: I would change the line "root (hd1,0)", to "root (hd1,2)"... sda1 = (hd0,0), sda2 = (hd0,1), sdb1 = (hd1,0) and so on
[16:27] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: afaik, yes =)
[16:27] <cmv583> would everything still run right?
[16:27] <bazhang> cmv583, done with care, sure
[16:27] <Slart> squirt94_: oops.. sorry.. change the line to "root (hd0,2)
[16:27] <squirt94_> but xp is on sda3 so wouldn't it be (0,2)?
[16:27] <cmv583> huh?
[16:27] <bazhang> !home | cmv583
[16:27] <squirt94_> ok ill do it now.
[16:28] <Slart> squirt94_: correct.. just me having a bit of a slow brain day here =)
[16:28] <squirt94_> do i change the map bits?
[16:28] <Slart> squirt94_: change that.. save the file.. run "sudo update-grub" and try rebooting
[16:28] <bazhang> cmv583, you'll need to format that external drive using the livecd or gparted livecd; will you be sharing files with windows computers on a network?
[16:28] <EDinNY> can anyone tell me how to get Gnome to mount my compact flash card?  The kernel sees it, but it does not mount
[16:28] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang, hey if its not too much to ask could you keep an eye out for 'xirongwing' and direct him to #Paddy_EIRE if you see him.. I am just popping out for a smoke :)
[16:28] <Slart> squirt94_: I don't think those are really needed.. I would remove them
[16:28] <squirt94_> ok
[16:28] <bazhang> Paddy_EIRE, sure thing
[16:29] <Paddy_EIRE> cheers mate
[16:29] <Slart> squirt94_: actually they might even stop it from working.. so def remove them
[16:29] <cmv583> nope, home desktop
[16:29] <bazhang> cmv583, please affix my nick or I will miss your answer
[16:29] <cmv583> i tried
[16:30] <cmv583> what do i do, exactly?
[16:30] <oddchild> Hello, I just updated my friend's laptop to 8.10 It is a dell inspiron 1525 and after the reboot it won't start xorg. I am  not sure what I need to do.
[16:30] <Aradiv> does someone know how i can allow mebeam.com to connect to my webcam?
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !tab
[16:30] <squirt94_> Then restart?
[16:30] <soppman> i have a problem with my sound, for reason my sound is coming out from red output on my soundcard instead of the green where i have simply better and louder sound, anyone knows where i can change this?
[16:30] <Ward1983> can i put ubuntu on a external harddrive and make it boot on pretty much any x86 PC, and autodetect for the right drivers? (and i would need proprietary drivers, not just vesa)
[16:30] <Slart> squirt94_: afaik those lines are only needed when you want to boot from another hard drive.. but you're still booting from the same drive, just a different partition.. windows can't handle things if it isn't installed on hd0 so you have to trick it if it isn't
[16:30] <cmv583> baz<tab>
[16:31] <squirt94_> ok so reestart and if fails just load up ubuntu and us this again for more help?
[16:31] <squirt94_> Ill write down any errors that occur.
[16:31] <Slart> squirt94_: sure..
[16:31] <bazhang> cmv583, you need to actually press the tab key
[16:31] <core5> hugfy
[16:31] <bazhang> cmv583, the tab key on your keyboard
[16:31] <cmv583> i did the first time
[16:31] <cmv583> bazhang:
[16:31] <cmv583> that's what happens?
[16:31] <bazhang> cmv583, I'm in more than one channel, doing it once means I see that one post.
[16:32] <Slart> Ward1983: if you restrict yourself to running on the same architecture it should work.. ie not installing a 64-bit ubuntu and trying to run on a non-64 bit processor
[16:32] <cmv583> so every message i hit baz<tab>
[16:32] <oddchild> Hello, I just updated my friend's laptop to 8.10 It is a dell inspiron 1525 and after the reboot it won't start xorg. I am  not sure what I need to do.
[16:32] <Ward1983> Slart thats why i allready said x86 :p
[16:33] <ty__> hello
[16:33] <Ward1983> Slart but its not possible to unstall more then one GPU drivers (nvidia / ati / intel / ...)
[16:33] <Slart> Ward1983: =).. why not give it a try.. there will probably be some annying little problem noone has thought of
[16:33] <cmv583> i'm sorry but i am very new:-[ bazhang
[16:33] <LtL> cmv583: the point is to prefix your comments/questions with a nickname, using the tab key accomplishes this easily. In this way, the person to whom you are speaking to reognizes you.
[16:34] <Ty2> does any1 know how to connect to the internet through a terminal? with ubuntu server 8.04?
[16:34] <Slart> Ward1983: well.. you can have the kernel drivers installed without them actually running afaik
[16:34] <squirt94_> i got the error message NTLDR is missing
[16:34] <cmv583> bazhang: this better?
[16:34] <bazhang> cmv583, yep
[16:34] <Ty2> i got that after i got a bad virus squirt94
[16:34] <Slart> Ward1983: and I think X.org autodetects most of the graphics stuff these days anyway..  I think my xorg.conf is mostly empty
[16:34] <Ward1983> Slart so could i autodetect the card and automatically use the right driver?
[16:34] <mirko_> Ty2 have you already configured the net? do you have 56k or adsl?
[16:34] <cmv583> noobies, lol:-[
[16:34] <Paddy_EIRE> xirongwing, hello..?
[16:34] <squirt94_> Yeah but i installed ubuntu and partition drives no, virus was at hand
[16:34] <Ty2> asdsl
[16:35] <cmv583> bazhang: noobies, lol:-[
[16:35] <Ty2> wireless
[16:35] <Slart> Ward1983: I've never tried this myself so I can't really say for sure.. but I would think so.. you've already got a number of graphics drivers installed.. radeon, nv etc
[16:35] <Ty2> ive tried iwlist but it didnt work
[16:35] <datou> why
[16:35] <bazhang> cmv583, how old is the install?
[16:36] <mirko_> Ty2 you have to make sure all is configured right
[16:36] <Ty2> i can connect to internet by plgging an ethernet cord into ethernet port
[16:36] <Ward1983> Slart ill check if its covered but the USB stick installation howto
[16:36] <Ty2> how do i configure? mirko_
[16:36] <mirko_> there should be specifical applications for wireless, but i cant say which
[16:37] <mirko_> *ones
[16:37] <Ty2> i want to connect without any graphics involved
[16:37] <[N]ick> are there any dutch people?
[16:37] <cmv583> bazhang: a week or so
[16:37] <mirko_> Ty2 wait a minute, brb
[16:37] <Ty2> ok
[16:37] <Ty2> me too
[16:37] <sushiX> if i play music with Music Player(amarok) i get sound  but with VLC dont pls help
[16:38] <Ward1983> Slart if not ill just try it lol
[16:38] <cmv583> bazhang: i have gparted open but not sure what to do. can see both HD.
[16:38] <archman> btw guys did anyone ever experienced that your disk partition 'crush' suddenly and you can't read it anymore till the restart of the computer?
[16:39] <mirko_> Ty2 try looking around with google, you should find wikis
[16:39] <Ty2> ok
[16:39] <Ty2> thanks
[16:39] <xirongwing> Paddy_EIRE: I am back
[16:39] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Is there a way to have a Different wallpaper on each "Work Space / Desktop" ? ?
[16:40] <ikonia> nite_johnboy not yet
[16:40] <ikonia> nite_johnboy: it's planned in future releases of compiz
[16:40] <Ty2> aww
[16:40] <ikonia> I've seen a few dirty hacks for it
[16:40] <Ty2> you can with beryl?
[16:40] <bazhang> cmv583, couple of options: reinstall ubuntu to the external hdd, move the /home there
[16:40] <archman> nite_johboy: would drain to much resources if turnet on i think
[16:40] <ikonia> Ty2 beryl is dead
[16:40] <Ty2> ive seen it in youtube vids
[16:40] <Ty2> i like beryl!!
[16:40] <ikonia> Ty2: there are dirty hacks
[16:41] <Ty2> i know
[16:41] <bazhang> compiz-fusion ty2
[16:41] <ikonia> Ty2: compiz-fushion IS beryl
[16:41] <Ty2> ok
[16:41] <mirko_> Ty2 now there is compiz-fusion :)
[16:41] <Slart> Ward1983: let us know the results
[16:41] <Ty2> ok
[16:41] <Ty2> you  spelled it right
[16:41] <Ty2> lol
[16:41] <bravo7_> how i check how many ram i have
[16:41] <bravo7_> i suppose to have 4 gb
[16:41] <ikonia> bravo7_: type "free"
[16:41] <archman> bravo7_: system monitor
[16:41] <nite_johnboy> ikonia: Did think so - could not find anything on google or forums. When it does become possible - You would have to run Compiz ? ?
[16:42] <cmv583> bazhang: i want to reinstall so all apps are installed thers to. Would that work just moving /home. if so how do i do that.
[16:42] <ikonia> nite_johnboy: yup
[16:42] <ikonia> nite_johnboy: the cube is part of compiz
[16:42] <Ty2> does any1 know how to make graphics in ubuntu faster?
[16:42] <sushiX>  if i play music with Music Player(amarok) i get sound  but with VLC dont
[16:42] <nite_johnboy> ikonia: Yup - Ok thanks much.........
[16:42] <ikonia> Ty2 use the best available xorg video driver for your card
[16:42] <Ty2> i have a Via-chrome 9 igp graphica adapter
[16:42] <ikonia> Ty2: make sure your machine is resourced correctly
[16:42] <bazhang> cmv583, best to just install the whole system then, particularly as you are new user; when you are in the installer just choose the correct hdd (the bigger one)
[16:42] <Ty2> it loads openchrome driver
[16:42] <mobodo> why does it say that yasm is at version 0.7.1 but when I apt-get I only get version 0.7.0? (http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/devel/yasm)
[16:42] <ikonia> Ty2: thats a poor card with a poor driver set
[16:43] <Ty2> oh
[16:43] <Ty2> ok
[16:43] <bravo7_> It only show 3.1 gb
[16:43] <bravo7_> memory
[16:43] <Ty2> the laptop wa only 400 so i can understand
[16:43] <bravo7_> what happen to my other 1 gb
[16:43] <Ty2> lol
[16:43] <bravo7_> of ram
[16:43] <cmv583> bazhang:  how do i install, disc won't work?
[16:43] <ikonia> bravo7_: show me "uname -a" pleaqse
[16:43] <ikonia> please
[16:43] <bazhang> bravo7_, which arch
[16:43] <shrini> Does Ubuntu has Network simulator 2 - NS2?
[16:43] <Aradiv> does someone know how i can allow mebeam.com to connect to my webcam? The flash plugin displays my webcam but i can't use it
[16:43] <bravo7_> ikonia: rite now i have
[16:43] <archman> bravo_: probably 32bit
[16:44] <bravo7_> ya
[16:44] <Aradiv> (it displays the name)
[16:44] <bravo7_> 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:42:44 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:44] <ikonia> bravo7_: 32bit is limited to 3 GB of ram
[16:44] <bravo7_> I've have 64bit cd
[16:44] <ikonia> bravo7_: you should use the 64bit version to get the full 4Gb
[16:44] <afallenhope|work> !livecd
[16:44] <Ward1983> Slart will do
[16:44] <archman> isn't there some package that enables 4gb?
[16:44] <archman> i n32bit
[16:44] <ikonia> archman: yes PAE
[16:44] <mobodo> can I upgrade my ubuntu desktop without having a display?
[16:44] <afallenhope|work> okay.. is there a tool for creating your own livecd's from a your current image of ubuntu
[16:44] <ikonia> mobodo: yup do it on the command line
[16:45] <bazhang> cmv583, not sure what you mean by wont work; the system refuses to start up by cd?
[16:45] <afallenhope|work> correction *xubuntu*
[16:45] <mobodo> ikonia: I'm reading an article that says I should never use apt-get for distribution upgrade - is that right?
[16:45] <cmv583> bazhang:  just loads what i have already
[16:45] <ikonia> mobodo: update-manager is the official tool, but you can use it sure
[16:45] <mobodo> ok
[16:45] <Ty2> do you have to install xserver-xgl for compiz to work?
[16:46] <bazhang> cmv583, and you set in bios to boot from CD first?
[16:46] <ikonia> Ty2: no
[16:46] <mobodo> how can I tell which version of  ubuntu I have?
[16:46] <ikonia> mobodo: lsb_release -a
[16:46] <Ty2> i do otherwise compis doesn work
[16:46] <Ty2> doesnt
[16:46] <ikonia> mobodo: or the kernel version from uname - shows
[16:46] <cmv583> bazhang:  i  believe, F9 before boot.
[16:46] <Ty2> compiz
[16:46] <archman> ikonia: xen hypervisor?
[16:46] <ikonia> archman: pardon ?
[16:46] <bazhang> cmv583, no, in the bios
[16:46] <Ty2> how do you configure compiz if so?
[16:46] <cmv583> bazhang: no idea
[16:46] <ikonia> archman: what about a xen hypervisor ?
[16:47] <bazhang> cmv583, change the boot order before you get to cd screen
[16:47] <archman> ikonia: i searched in synaptic for PAE and got this out :):)
[16:47] <cmv583> bazhang:  that's greek to me
[16:47] <ikonia> archman: PAE is a kernel option, not a package
[16:47] <archman> oh ko
[16:47] <ikonia> archman: the xen hypervisor would have to be PAE enabled too to work with the PAE kernel, but xen is not PAE support
[16:47] <archman> ok
[16:48] <bazhang> cmv583, there is screen that flashes right when the computer starts up, normally hitting esc key will get you into settings
[16:48] <cmv583> bazhang:  yep
[16:48] <afallenhope|work> okay.. is there a tool for creating your own livecd's from a your current image of xubuntu or ubuntu
[16:48] <cmv583> bazhang: del for me
[16:48] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: look at usb creator
[16:48] <afallenhope|work> umm.. is it gui based?
[16:48] <bazhang> cmv583, then set boot order from there, and boot from cd (also choose boot from cd when cd comes up)
[16:48] <archman> ikonia: so anyone can do that with kernel and get to 4gb?
[16:48] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: think so
[16:49] <ikonia> archman: if they have 4GB of ram
[16:49] <ikonia> archman: and wnat to rebuild it with that option, sure
[16:50] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, dodm
[16:51] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, didn't seem to work. I couldn't find it
[16:51] <amikrop> I think, a good idea would be if Gedit highlighted a mix of (X)HTML/CSS and PHP.
[16:51] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: usb-creator ?
[16:51] <amikrop> !gedit
[16:51] <cmv583> bazhang:  i will try. brb I have a few more questions but they might be answered with more memory. Thaks alot!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:51] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, yeah I searched in apt-cache
[16:51] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: can't remember what it's called
[16:52] <afallenhope|work> there was remastersys but that doesn't work
[16:52] <genii> shrini: You may want to look at gns3. It is included now in 8.10. If running a previous ubuntu add ubuntu repository described at http://gpl.code.de/oswiki/GplcodedeApt and then use your package manager to install it
[16:52] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: livecd-rootfs does that work for you (I've not used it)
[16:53] <shrini> geni: thanks
[16:53] <genii> shrini: You're welcome
[16:53] <shrini> geni: i want ns2
[16:53] <genii> shrini: You can also install ns2 on ubuntu.
[16:53] <mobodo> "do-release-upgrade" should upgrade to 8.10, right? right now it says "No new release found" even though I'm on 8.04
[16:54] <ikonia> mobodo: you have to configure it to look for non-lts releases
[16:54] <ikonia> mobodo: it's lookign for the nest lts release
[16:54] <genii> shrini: But it is not in the standard repositories
[16:54] <ikonia> !upgrade > mobodo
[16:54] <shrini> genii: yes
[16:54] <mobodo> thanks
[16:54] <shrini> genii: where can i get
[16:54] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, it's console based sigh
[16:54] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: there is a tool, just can't find it
[16:54] <amikrop> I think, a good idea would be if Gedit highlighted a mix of (X)HTML/CSS and PHP.
[16:56] <genii> shrini: Instructions are here: http://anggriawan.web.id/2008/05/install-ns2-on-ubuntu-804-hardy.html
[16:57] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, whenever you find it let me know please.
[16:57] <archman> you guys talking about something like remastersys for backing up your dist? it's my favourite tool of all time...sadly it doesn't work well for me anymore...any alternatives?
[16:57] <MadBanaan> ikonia: same here
[16:57] <shrini> genii: thanks
[16:57] <shrini> genii: no deb packages?
[16:57] <genii> shrini: You're welcome
[16:57] <Laspire> hi, is there anything like "beep" that uses my soundcard rather than a pc speaker?
[16:58] <Laspire> my notebook has no pc speaker :/
[16:58] <reduz-wrk> man, why can't ubuntu obey me when i set it to use a static IP? every time i reboot it gets an IP from dhcp no matter what setting i change
[16:58] <genii> shrini: There is a ppa for gutsy (7.10) but not hardy (8.04) .. at least that I can find
[16:58] <tavo> Hello, can someone tell me what does the twistd daemon do? it uses around 10 % of CPU and I've never seen it before
[16:58] <shrini> genii: is it not compitable?
[16:58] <shrini> genii: i want to teach ns2 to a student
[16:59] <genii> shrini: I would guess that it is not compatible
[16:59] <shrini> genii: he is new to linux
[16:59] <shrini> genii: ok
[16:59] <genii> shrini: Well, what better introduction to linux than compiling something anyhow ;)
[16:59] <dkT> Suddenly my sound is gone on 8.10 on a Dell XPS M1330.
[17:00] <shrini> genii: haha, ofcourse
[17:00] <dkT> any suggestions?
[17:00] <Gnea> dkT: check your mixer, make sure it's not muted
[17:01] <remoteCTRL> how do i install a .jar?
[17:01] <shrini> genii: any nice tutorial for ns2?
[17:01] <weissi> Hi, I have a strange problem. Everytime I connect to a WLAN with NetworkManger, it changes the hostname and I can't start X programs anymore (until I disconnect the WLAN)
[17:02] <dkT> Gnea: It is not muted :(
[17:02] <Spirits-Sight> what can I use instead of ActiveSync for Ubuntu to connect and install software on my PDA / Phone - I am doing a upgrade on the phone
[17:03] <maei> gada ktos tu po polsku?
[17:03] <archman> weissi: what do you have in edit /etc/hostname ?
[17:03] <archman> and etc/hosts
[17:03] <Gnea> dkT: do you hear anything if you type this in a termina?  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[17:04] <dkT> Gnea: If I test my sound, I hear the beeeeep tone.
[17:04] <bazhang> !pl | maei
[17:04] <maei> o dzięki:)
[17:04] <S0me1> weissi: what is your wifi vendor ?
[17:04] <Gnea> dkT: okay, that command shouldn't be a long beep tone, it should sound like tv static...
[17:04] <dkT> Gnea: It says "bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"?
[17:05] <predrag> have somebody upload some file on getdeb?
[17:05] <Gnea> dkT: then something else has hogged your sound device.. probably pulseaudio
[17:05] <archman> predrag: pozdrav hrvatska
[17:05] <genii> shrini: The bottom of this page has some useful links http://evanjones.ca/ns2.html
[17:05] <dkT> Yes, I see pulse audio in htop... Shall I just kill it?
[17:05] <predrag> archman, i tebe
[17:06] <Gnea> dkT: like this:  sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[17:06] <tarokun> dkT: fuser /dev/dsp -v
[17:07] <Arkturus> Hii
[17:07] <weissi> S0me1, noname
[17:07] <soppman> hi
[17:07] <weissi> archman, wait a minute, I'll paste it to pastebin
[17:07] <soppman> where do i change output on my soundcard from digital to analog?
[17:07] <Arkturus> woo i got a hi? or did i?
[17:07] <archman> weissi: ok
[17:08] <weissi> archman, first: here is a console log http://pastebin.com/m55de542f  where everything is visible
[17:08] <Arkturus> Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew any nice terminal irc clients? I use XChat, and i love it. But i also feel more comfortable in a nice plane terminal irc client.
[17:08] <bazhang> irssi Arkturus
[17:08] <weissi> archman, sorry in /etc/hostname I simple have "olddays"
[17:08] <weissi> archman, s/simple/simply/
[17:08] <S0me1> weissi: is this issue on your laptop? if yes. What is your laptop vendor and modle ?
[17:08] <ShaunWing> say, can't get X to launch
[17:08] <Arkturus> bazhang, Thank you =]
[17:08] <ShaunWing> display driver problem
[17:08] <ShaunWing> How can I determine what the internal display card is from command line please?
[17:09] <ninly> I used update-rc.d to remove gdm from my startup, and after restoring it ('update-rc.d -f gdm defaults') my system now freezes at the login screen. i've tried removing and reinstalling gdm and related packages with apt-get.
[17:09] <weissi> S0me1, noname computer, usb wlan stick (LongShine Shinenet)
[17:09] <genii> ShaunWing: lspci | grep VGA       may turn up some results
[17:09] <S0me1> I see
[17:10] <archman> weissi: try hostname olddays after you connect
[17:10] <Spirits-Sight> what can I use instead of ActiveSync for Ubuntu to connect and install software on my PDA / Phone - I am doing a upgrade on the phone, does any one know I can handle this, its the AT&T Tilt that I am trying to upgrade
[17:10] <nw2190> How do you disable the startup sound in ubuntu 8.10?
[17:10] <weissi> S0me1, driver zd1211rw
[17:10] <shrini> genii: nice link
[17:10] <ShaunWing> Can't determine model of HP Desktop either hence need to resort to some other way to... Its apparently a HP DX2000
[17:10] <Slart> nw2190: have you tried in system, preferences, sound?
[17:11] <Slart> ShaunWing: lspci might give you some kind of idea
[17:11] <nw2190> Slart: Ya, I disabled system sounds and alerts but it still plays.  In older versions of ubuntu that's how I always did it though.
[17:11] <weissi> archman, that works, I already tried it. That doesn't work
[17:12] <ShaunWing> tx will try
[17:12] <archman> weissi: which works and which doesn't work?
[17:12] <weissi> archman, the problem is xauth! the magic-cookie is for localhost.localdomain
[17:12] <weissi> archman, localhost works and olddays does not
[17:13] <archman> weissi: but with localhost programs dont work?
[17:13] <weissi> archman, the strange thing about all that is that even if I have olddays in my /etc/hostname when I boot ubuntu, the hostname is set to localhost
[17:13] <weissi> archman, everything works with localhost
[17:13] <Slart> nw2190: oh.. nevermind.. I haven't disabled mine.. it just plays in my headphones... I have no idea then.. perhaps some kind of alsa configuration thingy
[17:13] <soppman> where do i change output on my soundcard from digital to analog?
[17:13] <weissi> archman, but NetworkManager changes it AUTOMATICALLY when connecting to WLANs.
[17:14] <soppman> xzcz''
[17:14] <soppman> can get unbutu to reconfigure alsa from the beginning
[17:14] <soppman> its totally fucked
[17:14] <nw2190> Slart: ya maybe, i'll keep looking around for something. Thanks.
[17:14] <bazhang> soppman, please watch the language here
[17:14] <weissi> archman, have a look at http://pastebin.com/m55de542f
[17:14] <archman> weissi: go to system-admin.network
[17:14] <S0me1> weissi:  I think you have changed the hostname in /etc/hosts file? right?
[17:14] <archman> weissi: what do you have in general host name?
[17:15] <weissi> S0me1, no, NetworkManager does that. It modifies the first line automatically!
[17:16] <archman> weissi: why dont you try wifi-radar?
[17:16] <weissi> archman, I'd like to have olddays. When I boot, I have localhost. Since Xorg gets started when the hostname is set to localhost, it doesn't accept any x-clients when you change the hostname to olddays (and NetworkManager does that!)
[17:16] <Laspire> hi, is there anything like "beep" that uses my soundcard rather than a pc speaker? my laptop has no pc speaker
[17:17] <ShaunWing> Tx. Did the trick: Intel 82845G display driver. Any ideas how to get Ubuntu to recognise it?
[17:17] <archman> weissi: sorry, dunno... :(
[17:17] <weissi> archman, S20me, The bug is listed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/204824 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/276253 , https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/2008-October/007844.html , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/32906
[17:18] <bushblows> how could I go about making X start a program, say rdesktop inplace of gnome? I have allready removed gdm from the startup scripts.
[17:18] <weissi> archman, S20me, but everyone says it is fixed, but it is not! I already saw 2 computers which have that problem after upgrading to 8.10
[17:18] <weissi> archman, ok. Thanks
[17:19] <archman> weissi: try wifi-radar
[17:19] <archman> weissi: or simply: sly
[17:19] <archman> weissi: cli***
[17:20] <ndee> is there a command-line tool where I can see how much network traffic is incoming and outgoing?
[17:20] <weissi> archman, I'm using debian with ifupdown/wpa_supplicant. That's ok. But for my girlfriend it is NOT ok :-) I think ubuntu should work with WLAN out of the box
[17:20] <mchelen1> bushblows, for vnc you can edit /.vnc/xstartup
[17:20] <S0me1> weissi: I think there is a solution :)
[17:20] <archman> weissi: ooooh, my girlfriend also wants linux...are they nuts? :D:D:D
[17:20] <S0me1> but you need time :)
[17:21] <weissi> S0me1, really?
[17:21] <Slart> ndee: nload is one
[17:21] <Slart> ndee: I think there is some kind of network top utility too
[17:21] <weissi> archman, up to 8.04 everything worked fine nearly out of the box, 8.10 is cool, too. But this issue is REALLY BAD!
[17:21] <ndee> thanks for the recommendations :)
[17:21] <S0me1> flow up with the above links regarding the bugs you have mentioned
[17:21] <archman> btw guys anyone fixed 56k modem to work on ibm r50e? i got it working for the hp nx6310...
[17:22]  * Laspire needs to play a sound through the sound card from a bash script, any idea how?
[17:22] <weissi> how is the hostname SET on startup? I know it is configured in /etc/hostname but what is the mechanism how the system sets it while booting?
[17:22] <Slart> Laspire: aplay
[17:22] <CelticLord> le peuple :)
[17:22] <Slart> Laspire: or play if you don't want to use alsa
[17:22] <archman> weissi: honesty, i wish i installed and started learning on debian, not ubuntu...but now...i tweaked everything, so im settled
[17:22] <S0me1> archman: I have opened bug regarding this issue with ubuntu , and I think they fixed
[17:23] <Laspire> slart: thanks
[17:23] <ndee> Slart: by chance you would know the name of it?
[17:23] <archman> S0me1: what, for modem?
[17:23] <ndee> hah, nload is actually perfect
[17:23] <weissi> there is the /etc/init.d/hostname script which does that, but how should it get called? (usage is NOT /etc/init.d/hostname start|stop, so a symlink like S01hostname --> ../init.d/hostname is no solution)
[17:23] <weissi> archman, ;-). I like debian much more, too because there is no fucking magic :-)
[17:24] <S0me1> archman: montoral
[17:24] <Slart> ndee: can't remember the name... sorry
[17:24] <archman> weissi sorry for ot: did you have ubuntu or debian first?
[17:24] <Slart> weissi: no need for the language
[17:24] <S0me1> archman: both :) of them cool
[17:24] <jimmy__> I have a technical question
[17:24] <bushblows> mchelen1: I need it to open rdesktop as a connection to a windows terminal server.
[17:24] <S0me1> jimmy__: go a head
[17:25] <archman> S0me1: but why opening issue for 56k modem if we havent tried it yet?
[17:25] <weissi> archman, debian
[17:25] <weissi> Slart, sorry, what?
[17:25] <archman> weissi: is it really that stable they talk?
[17:25] <jimmy__> I have to push the space bar to boot my ubuntu 8.10
[17:25] <remoteCTRL> what does this mean: make: *** No targets.  Stop.
[17:25] <jimmy__> i did not have to do this with 8.04 lts
[17:25] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me any softwares for building websites without any programming knowledge
[17:26] <jimmy__> what happens is it actually boots up and then stops half way in progress bar
[17:26] <sipior> remoteCTRL: just what it says. you'll need to specify a target, like "make clean" or "make all"
[17:26] <derdon> DaCapn: joomla1.5
[17:26] <derdon> DarkKnight: joomla
[17:27] <weissi> archman, yes. But on my desktop I use unstable. It is stable enough, too
[17:27] <derdon> DaCapn: sorry, wasn't for you :)
[17:27] <DarkKnight> derdon; its not in my repos
[17:27] <remoteCTRL> sipior: err the instruction says nothing about that so i am a little unsure what to do now, could you have a look at this please:
[17:27] <shrini> genii: thanks
[17:27] <derdon> DarkKnight: you install it with a web interface
[17:27] <weissi> archman, for server I  use deb-stable, it is rock-stable but really out-dated. No problem for servers but for desktops that sucks!
[17:27] <genii> shrini: Welcome
[17:27] <DarkKnight> derdon; i didnt get u??
[17:28] <archman> weissi: uhuh then, it's the same b**ls**t
[17:28] <ShaunWing> say what file do I edit to cahnge the dislpay driver?
[17:28] <ShaunWing> display
[17:28] <remoteCTRL> sipior: http://bpmdj.yellowcouch.org/setup.html
[17:28] <derdon> DarkKnight: read the doc of it (or any other CMS) to learn how to install it
[17:28] <S0me1> archman: I have tried , ubuntu team they and some developers created driver for that. but the problem I bought my laptop :) .... but i have saw the ticket and there is some people said worked fine
[17:28] <UnknownUser56> A friend is root on a server,but gets accessed denied ,common issues ?
[17:28] <bthornton> I'm running Hardy and need to upgrade my Sun Java 6 installation to the version distributed with Intrepid (so that I can run Netbeans + compiz). Do I need to manually download the packages from the repositories, or is there a better way?
[17:28] <ruiz> ruiz
[17:29] <shrini> genii: I want the chat messages should be in pop up in pidgin
[17:29] <Pandemic187> hey all...i'm having a minor issue with firefox that i'm wondering if anyone would be willing to help me with.
[17:29] <weissi> archman, ;-)
[17:29] <archman> S0me1: can you give me the link to driver or some info (were talking bout r50e, no?)?
[17:29] <shrini> genii: any plugin?
[17:29] <sipior> remoteCTRL: have you run ./configure yet?
[17:29] <remoteCTRL> sipior: as i havent found a configure file nope?
[17:29] <genii> shrini: Offhand I do not know. I have not used pidgin now for quite a while
[17:29] <jimmy__> i wish i could speak in private about technical
[17:30] <shrini_> gennie: ok
[17:30] <ShaunWing> say what file do I edit to change the dislpay driver?
[17:30] <ShaunWing> display
[17:30] <Paddy_EIRE> !xorg
[17:30] <Slart> ShaunWing: xorg.conf
[17:30] <shrini> gennie: ok
[17:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ShaunWing, read what ubottu said
[17:30] <ShaunWing> tx
[17:30] <genii> ShaunWing: Traditionally  /etc/X11/xorg/conf                         however that way is becoming more and more deprecated
[17:31] <sipior> remoteCTRL: you can try generating one with "autoreconf -i" in the top source directory. assuming that the thing has been written properly. the normal three-step is "./configure; make; make install". if that doesn't work, try contacting the authors, or other users if they have a forum of some sort.
[17:31] <remoteCTRL> sipior: ah there is one, sorry but all that does is give out the compile.txt in the same folder, that would be this one: http://www.nopaste.org/p/aemyLP7reb  don't say much new there...
[17:31] <genii> ShaunWing:   /etc/X11/xorg.conf      rather. (typo)
[17:31] <sipior> remoteCTRL: also, you'll need autoconf, automake, libtool, and the like installed
[17:31] <remoteCTRL> sipior: yepp i am aware of that and sometimes you can also make without a configure file
[17:31] <ruiz> ruiz
[17:31] <ShaunWing> tx
[17:32] <Pandemic187> can anyone help me with a minor issue with firefox?
[17:32] <S0me1> archman: sorry :( but I am sure you will find it in http://bugs.launchpad.net
[17:32] <remoteCTRL> sipior: umm i have build-essential installed
[17:32] <sipior> remoteCTRL: that's fine, iirc
[17:32] <shrini> Pandemic187: tell
[17:33] <archman> S0me1: what do you think which version of ubuntu is r50e capable of running? it has only 256mb of ram... in live
[17:33] <remoteCTRL> sipior: have you seen my line about the configure file and with the link to the compile.txt? cos that one really isn't very substantial...:-/
[17:33] <sipior> remoteCTRL: actually, the compile.txt file has some useful information. have you made a link to one of the define files it mentions?
[17:34] <S0me1> archman: could you please clarify ?
[17:34] <Pandemic187> shrini: sorry i was reading something
[17:34] <remoteCTRL> sipior: link? i tried to compile with -f definitions.debiabn, that wrong?
[17:34] <Pandemic187> shrini: but anyway, every time i open firefox, i have no window decorations
[17:34] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, you could try using xubuntu if your are looking for lightweight... or alternatively fluxbuntu which is even lighter
[17:34] <fwaokda> I'm having trouble setting up my gmail with evolution can someone help me please ?  I have it where it is recieving but I can't send anything from it. :(
[17:34] <Pandemic187> if i make it full screen and then change it back i see them, but they are never there when i first open it
[17:35] <jimmy__> SO mel
[17:35] <weissi> Slart, sorry, what did I do wrong?
[17:35] <Slart> weissi: you just used midly bad language.. nothing major
[17:35] <remoteCTRL> sipior: defines file looks like this btw: http://www.nopaste.org/p/a11ouYj7gb
[17:36] <weissi> Slart, what's the problem?
[17:37] <Slart> weissi: the channel policy is pretty strict on using bad language
[17:37] <bazhang> weissi, no cursing here thanks
[17:37] <weissi> Slart, ok, but what was the bad language?
[17:37] <archman> S0me1: ibm r50e is low on resources
[17:38] <fwaokda> is there a help channel on this server for the evolution mail client?
[17:38] <sipior> remoteCTRL: well, that's definitely not a makefile. not the greatest documentation here, i have to say.
[17:39] <remoteCTRL> sipior: definitely agree on that
[17:39] <Slart> weissi: you got the pm?
[17:39] <remoteCTRL> sipior: so what would you suggest?
[17:39] <sipior> remoteCTRL: give me a moment
[17:39] <sidd1> hi, I just installed Lilo. I get Warning: CHANGE AUTOMATIC assumed after "other=/dev/sda1" when i run lilo. any ideas?
[17:40] <remoteCTRL> sipior: yes of course, sorry
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd1 /j #Lilo perhaps
[17:41] <weissi> Slart, yep, thanks (answer in pm, too)
[17:41] <sipior> remoteCTRL: does "make all" work?
[17:41] <sidd1> Jack_Sparrow: hey, I solved the boot problem by installing lilo. grub is know to fail on this machine
[17:41] <remoteCTRL> sipior: not tried yet, sec please
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd1 99% of us use grub...  from what I understand it installs lilo if grub wont work on a diff file/partition structure
[17:41] <Kelen> why not
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd1 Do yo have a link stating grub has issues on your hardware
[17:42] <remoteCTRL> sipior: says make: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop.
[17:42] <sidd1> Jack_Sparrow: let me check.....
[17:43] <remoteCTRL> sipior: btw if i spare out the -f defines.debian it says this: makefile:11: *** "Please read 'compile.txt'".  Stop. so i guess it is correct to apply it with -f option?
[17:43] <sipior> remoteCTRL: hmm. i downloaded the package to have a look, but i'd need a bit more time. unfortunately, i have a bus to catch, so i'm afraid i need to be going. you can try asking some other folks here, but probably better to bug the authors of the package, or see if you can find a user forum.
[17:43] <DefunctProcess> Silly question, is using MAC filtering instead of 128-bit ASCII WEP safe?
[17:43] <remoteCTRL> sipior: aww i see... thanks a lot for the attempt though:)
[17:44] <sipior> remoteCTRL: yep, good luck
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> DefunctProcess no
[17:44] <cQ> how can i check my video card have latest update release??
[17:44] <remoteCTRL> any other compile wizzards in the house?
[17:44] <DefunctProcess> Jack_Sparrow, can you be a little more specific?
[17:44] <sidd1> Jack_Sparrow:  here are two unofficial ones. The second one does talk about a debian bug mentioning that grub2 is to be used. http://www.mepis.org/node/13974, http://refried.org/blog/226/
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> DefunctProcess mac address is not encrypted and can be caught and spoofed
[17:45] <cristimarineru> somewane can please help me !!! y need a driver emulator for windows drivers ... a link or a name please
[17:45] <Pici> cristimarineru: What sort of drivers?
[17:45] <DefunctProcess> Jack_Sparrow, The only reason I ask is that there is a bug in the intel 3945 driver that won't allow any type of WEP encryption.
[17:45] <sidd1> DefunctProcess: MAC and WEP are completely different things. one is authenticatin and the other is encryption
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine > cristimarineru
[17:45] <DefunctProcess> Jack_Sparrow, thank you I thought so I just needed someone to confirm.
[17:45] <bsod1> can we play hardcore games for windows in ubuntu? like crysis, farcry 2, dead space? without drivers and directx, just wine..
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> DefunctProcess If security is an issue, get a card with native drivers.
[17:45] <Slart> bsod1: not yet, afaik
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > bsod1
[17:46] <DefunctProcess> Jack_Sparrow, iwl3945 is a native driver but its currently suffered a regression.
[17:46] <narothepharoh> how do i add more screensavers? or where do i find some
[17:47] <Pici> Ndiswrapper would be the only way to 'emulate' a windows drivers.
[17:47] <DefunctProcess> sidd1, I'm aware but as I mentioned to Jack_Sparrow, my driver has a regression in it that prevents me from using WEP.
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd1 it is possible to lock a router to a specific mac hardware address..
[17:47] <bsod1> how can i run swf files? i cant open gnash, its open and close suddenly..
[17:48] <shrini> Pandemic187: do you use any theme for firefox?
[17:48] <DefunctProcess> Thats what I've done, but I figured that the MAC could be found and spoofed.
[17:48] <narothepharoh> how do i add more screensavers? or where do i find some
[17:48] <sidd1> Jack_Sparrow: true, but it can be seen and spoofed.
[17:48] <almark> Hello I'm trying to install Ubuntu manually with the 8.10 version, I can't find the manual install of 8.10 on the web  where do I go to get the info?
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sidd1 Did you NOT read my first response to him
[17:48] <DefunctProcess> Lol you guys are funny.
[17:48] <DarkKnight> !lamp
[17:48] <cQ> almark:that y u need here
[17:48] <sidd1> Jack_Sparrow: I did and it seemed redundant to say that the mac can be bound
[17:49] <Pandemic187> shrini: yeah, i think i added the dust theme
[17:49] <DefunctProcess> Jack_Sparrow, sidd1 thank you. You've both answered my question.
[17:49] <Hikefu> almark, if you need the alternate install, there should be a checkbox somewhere on the main download page that will direct you.
[17:49] <almark> Yes that is why I am here
[17:49] <sidd1> moreover, does linux give a message that someone has the same mac/ip on the network?
[17:49] <almark> thanks.
[17:49] <cQ> i suggest u use live cd
[17:49] <bsod1> how can i run swf files in ubuntu? without firefox..
[17:49] <almark> Using it right now I'm in it
[17:49] <cQ> boot
[17:49] <DefunctProcess> sidd1, what does it have to do with linux, wea re talking about the router.
[17:50] <cQ> then install
[17:50] <sidd1> DefunctProcess: yes, it was an unrelated thing. I was thinking if someone spoofed my server mac/ip even for a short while, except keeping a careful eye on /var/log/messages, is there another way?
[17:50] <shrini> Pandemic187: disable the theme
[17:51] <shrini> Pandemic187: use a plain default theme adn check
[17:51] <narothepharoh> how do i get more screensavers?
[17:51] <Hikefu> almark, it seems to have changed. Under the Begin Download button, there is an area to select 32 or 64 bit. To the right, and the text based alternate install is there.
[17:51] <Pandemic187> alright.
[17:51] <Hikefu> *to the right, the text*
[17:51] <Pandemic187> shrini: Nope, same thing happened.
[17:51] <lasivian> i'm getting this error: "Server did not offer supported security type" when I use tightvnc to connect to ubuntu
[17:53] <lasivian> I can connect to the machine fine from another ubuntu box
[17:54] <catmando> hey all
[17:55] <catmando> quick question
[17:55] <x264> my touchpad pastes when I tap the top right corner, and copy if I tap the bottom right corner.. how do I disable these?
[17:56] <magnetron> hi, i have been getting this error from SSH all day, but i don't know what it means: Read from remote host draal.cyd.liu.se: Connection reset by peer
[17:56] <shrini> Pandemic187: is other windows seem fine?
[17:56] <catmando> has anyone run into problems with the alternate cd not installing a bootloader?
[17:56] <Pandemic187> shrini: yep. and besides that, this theme was working just fine for probably 2 months.
[17:56] <comicinker1> magnetron: the connection is broken
[17:57] <meganox> trying to set up internet connection sharing in firestarter, it doesn't seem to recognise the dhcp server in the dhcp3 package in intrepid
[17:57] <Pandemic187> shrini: i'm led to believe it was a system update or something that caused the issue.
[17:57] <peleg> I have backuped - finally - my entire system. I would like to now upgrade to 7.10. What is the first step I should take? How much free HD should I have? Should I close all programs before I run the upgrade?
[17:58] <Neaai> catmando: do the alternate cd and the normal cd install the same version of kernel and bootloader (grub)  ?
[17:58] <magnetron> comicinker1→ in what sense? this is a server on a university network, and i have been using it for months for ssh tunnels. today, for the first time, it has been doing this a couple of times each hour. where should i start looking?
[17:59] <shrini> Pandemic187: fine. check with other themes
[17:59] <almark> Hello again, I have found a manual install of Kbuntu but not for 8.10 verison, of Ubuntu, could someone please point me to it?
[18:01] <narothepharoh> how do i get more screensavers?
[18:01] <catmando> Neaai: i thought so
[18:01] <narothepharoh> i use xscreensaver
[18:01] <ikonia> narothepharoh there are about 50 packaged with xscreensaver
[18:01] <vladtsepesh1985> guys i have a problem...I've followed the guide for sync wm6 in ubuntu with synce and all gone ok....but when i run the sync-engine command it return the "unknow command" and if i run synce-sync-engine it return the followig error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/83062/ can anyone help me????
[18:01] <catmando> Neaai: it didn't seem to install one at all though
[18:01] <vladtsepesh1985> here is the guide http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceSetup/SyncEngine
[18:01] <ikonia> narothepharoh: if you can find more xscreensaver ones they should just drop into the same dir as the others
[18:02] <Pici> narothepharoh: You can install the xscreensaver-data-extra and xscreensaver-gl-extra packages
[18:02] <narothepharoh> ikonia: most are not available to use only some
[18:02] <ikonia> narothepharoh: are the ones not available the 3d ones ?
[18:02] <the_dark_warrio> is there a command which displays the day given the unix time stamp?
[18:03] <Neaai> catmando: I know there's a way to install the bootloader only when the system is in place or the actual bootloader is broken. It's with the normal/live-cd. I'm not very sure how and I have to check.
[18:03] <biophile> can someone help me install n.e.r.o. (I ussualy use apt-get)
[18:03] <catmando> Neaai.
[18:03] <lasivian> i'm getting this error: "Server did not offer supported security type" when I use tightvnc to connect from windows to ubuntu
[18:03] <ikonia> techqbert: date can or ddate for fun
[18:03] <catmando> intersting
[18:04] <vladtsepesh1985> Is anybody here??? please help me
[18:04] <narothepharoh> ikonia no there are some 3d ones that work
[18:04] <almark> Could someone please tell me where to go on the web to manually install Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[18:04] <ikonia> !grub > Neaai
[18:04] <mnky34223> hello
[18:05] <Neaai> ikonia: thanks. catmando,  do:  /msg ubottu grub
[18:05] <afallenhope|work> Anyone able to help me out? Trying to get my ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] to work.The driver itself works (the default) however the glx does not.. I lose my display.  I'm trying to get dual monitors to work.. I get "two monitors" but cloned output. I was to split the view.,
[18:05] <derdon> the_dark_warrio: date +%H:%M:%S
[18:06] <the_dark_warrio> derdon: thanks ;)
[18:06] <Neaai> catmando: also read along here:   http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[18:06] <derdon> the_dark_warrio: you're welcome. don't forget man date
[18:07] <Neaai> catmando: basically those articles should cover your scenario too.
[18:07] <almark> is there a way to install ubuntu 8.10 manually?
[18:07] <Pici> almark: What do you mean by manually?
[18:08] <x264> my touchpad pastes when I tap the top right corner, and copy if I tap the bottom right corner.. how do I disable these?
[18:08] <sproingie> is there a gnome applet that behaves like a tray in CDE?
[18:08] <sproingie> i.e. can expand to multiple icons, and has a drop target?
[18:08] <lasivian_> define "manual install"
[18:08] <fwaokda> If I get a virus(made for windows) on my ubuntu partition can it easily get to the windows partition?
[18:09] <aurynn> I'm having a problem with Pidgin 2.5.2 on 8.10 - it appears to be leaking filehandles during use, eventually crashing
[18:09] <aurynn> is there a known fix for this?
[18:09] <sproingie> fwaokda: not really, windows can't read your ubuntu partition
[18:09] <lasivian_> fwaokda, depends on the virus, but usually no
[18:09] <almark> Like install it without it being automatically installed lets me control where it is installed, I have Gentoo on this disk and I don't want to break it and its boot partition, I want to duel boot Gentoo and Ubuntu
[18:09] <fwaokda> ok ty
[18:09] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: side note you may want to hit #ati for some of the mode advanced setups
[18:09] <Pici> almark: You can start with the minimal CD and then apt-get all the packages you want manually.
[18:09] <biophile> can some one help me with installing from binary?
[18:09] <Pici> !minimal | almark
[18:09] <almark> right now I'm using the live-cd
[18:09] <sproingie> a supremely clever virus could probably cross OS's on next reboot, but nothing like that exists in the wild
[18:10] <almark> Can it be done with the live-cd 8.10 version?
[18:10] <Pici> almark: No.
[18:10] <ndee> how can I create a 100MB big file?
[18:10] <Pici> fwaokda: You can use clam-av to clean windows viruses from your ubuntu partitions.
[18:11] <almark> So no matter what I do It will delete my existing boot partition is make it useless
[18:11] <badawi> almark: ubuntu will respect the other partition, and won't overwrite that if you tell it, but as for grub, it will overwrite and install ubuntu grub on MBR, i've had this problem
[18:11] <fwaokda> Pici, your saying that it will clean up a windows partition that has viruses from ubuntu OR that it will get rid of windows viruses that are on ubuntu?
[18:11] <almark> is there a way to keep that from happeing, I like my Gentoo grub
[18:11] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, #Ati said ask in #ubuntu
[18:12] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: really ?
[18:12] <afallenhope|work> yuppers
[18:12] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: the closed source drivers, how dissapoitning
[18:12] <ikonia> afallenhope|work: they are normally quite good with the more advanced settings
[18:12] <Pici> fwaokda: If it has rw access to the windows partition I suppose that it could remove viruses from there as well, but I'm not sure how well that would work in practice.
[18:12] <fwaokda> oh
[18:12] <fwaokda> you got me all excited :(
[18:12] <biophile> I need help with installing from binary
[18:13] <afallenhope|work> ikonia, I dunno..
[18:13] <almark> You see the thing is if I use Ubuntu's way of installing Ubuntu, it wont' install to my logical partition, that is why I wanted a manual install method
[18:13] <afallenhope|work> biophile, dpkg-deb -i PACKAGENAME
[18:13] <ikonia> biophile what do you want to install
[18:13] <fwaokda> I'd like something that could work like that because right now i have a PC(laptop) that has ubuntu and windows xp but the windows part has a virus and i'm thinking I'm going to have to format it which I hate doing :(
[18:13] <IdleOne> how do I install an older version of firefox?
[18:14] <biophile> ikonia: 'neuro evolving robotic operatives' or nero
[18:14] <badawi> almark: for my case i thought the installer would ask where to install grub, it didn't. so after ubuntu wiped out grub, from inside ubuntu i did grub-install /dev/sda3, then booted into my other linux with supergrub and fixed MBR grub from there
[18:14] <ikonia> IdleOne: which version ?
[18:14] <IdleOne> ikonia, 2.0
[18:14] <ikonia> biophile: what do the docs say ?
[18:14] <Pici> fwaokda: It may very well be able to do that, but I don't dual boot nor have I personally needed to do something like that.
[18:14] <biophile> I can't find the docs
[18:14] <peleg> I am trying (finally) to upgrade to 7.10. I have followed the instructions in ubuntu site, and tried to do it via system->update manager. A short while after that, I got a series of errors, including "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[18:14] <fwaokda> pici, ok thanks I'll read up on it then
[18:14] <Pici> biophile: What binary are you trying to install?
[18:14] <badawi> almark: had the same problem with lvm, ubuntu doesn't use that with the CD the i got :/
[18:14] <almark> You know lol I could always just chroot into my Gentoo live cd, and yes badawi that is my thoughts exaclty Do yo like your grub bootloader too?
[18:15] <peleg> that's after it asked me whether I want it to update the sources list
[18:15] <almark> lvm sounds like a lot of trouble alto
[18:15] <almark> alot
[18:15] <Pici> peleg: You need to change your sources.list off of old-releases if you are actually starting the upgrade process.
[18:15] <fwaokda> where can i turn off the system beep in 8.10 - It seems they moved it from 7.10
[18:15] <peleg> Pici, change to what?
[18:15] <biophile> pici: http://z.cs.utexas.edu/users/nn/nero/downloads/nero2_linux_i386.tar.gz
[18:15] <badawi> almark: i have opensuse as my main linux, from opensuse grub i boot into ubuntu grub or windows directly
[18:15] <Slart> fwaokda: system, preferences, sound.. I think it's called alert sound or someting
[18:15] <ikonia> IdleOne: I can't see a firefox 2 package for 8.10 I'm afraid
[18:16] <Pici> peleg: archive.ubuntu.com
[18:16] <Neaai> ndee: dd  if=/dev/zero  of=/path/to/your.file bs=1024k count=100
[18:16] <peleg> Pici, ok, thanks
[18:16] <IdleOne> ikonia, couldn't I use a feisty version?
[18:16] <almark> What about my boot partition, how do I settle that issue, Ubuntu needs boot, or could I just copy files from Ubuntu boot folder and move to /dev/boot in Gentoo?
[18:16] <fwaokda> Slart, I went there but its different than the system beep. I get the system beep when doing various things in the terminal and it doesn't sound the same as the sound effect listed for alert
[18:16] <ikonia> idleone, nope
[18:17] <lasivian> i'm getting this error: "Server did not offer supported security type" when I use vnc to connect from windows to ubuntu, thanks
[18:17] <IdleOne> ikonia, ok thanks
[18:17] <ikonia> biophile: the documentation is on the website you posted
[18:17] <almark> me too badawi I have a duel boot xp gentoo system
[18:17] <ikonia> biophile: so you please read the documentation on the website
[18:17] <vladtsepesh1985> nobody want to help me.... ;(
[18:17] <mDemocritus> ok, this isn't about ubuntu persay, but anyone know of any hostname length restriction in Linux or common Linux programs? I mean a SHORT restriction, something like 12 chars?
[18:17] <Pici> lasivian: How have you enabled the vnc server within Ubuntu?
[18:18] <ikonia> mDemocritus: then ask in ##linux
[18:18] <faria__> hi all
[18:18] <lasivian> pici: remote desktop
[18:18] <Pici> lasivian: And did you enable a password?
[18:18] <lasivian> only a password required
[18:18] <imc_> 8.10 on MacBookPro Santa Rosa - anyone figure out how to adjust the brightness?
[18:18] <biophile> ikonia: that documentation is just how to play not how to install
[18:19] <ikonia> biophile: contact the contact onthe website then
[18:19] <faria__> what is data services equipment id ?? labled on my pc casing .
[18:19] <waldfrank__> i'm searching for the conf files of the Network-Manager, because it do not save me configuration after a reboot
[18:19] <Kerin> Is there any way to catch all of a specific process' network activity?
[18:19] <lasivian> and it's listed in the gconf correctly as base64
[18:19] <almark> badawi I'll take your advice on reinstalling grub, its not that much trouble, things could be worse.
[18:19] <ikonia> biophile: we are not here to support 3rd party apps
[18:19] <badawi> almark: you don't have to install ubuntu on lvm, after you finish the installtion you can install the lvm packages and mount the lvm drives as usual, but booting can't be from lvm as far as i know
[18:19] <vladtsepesh1985> somebody can help me with synce please....I'm so sad....
[18:19] <lasivian> and I can connect from another ubuntu machine
[18:19] <Kerin> IE, find out what IPs it is sending packets to and when?
[18:19] <lasivian> but not from windows
[18:19] <badawi> !lvm
[18:19] <almark> badawi The thing is I don't use lvm.... yet.
[18:19] <biophile> ikonia: ok, thanks
[18:19] <ikonia> biophile: also if you untar the file you'll probably find a readme file thats worth reading, or an Install file
[18:19] <x264> my touchpad pastes when I tap the top right corner, and copy if I tap the bottom right corner.. how do I disable these?
[18:20] <badawi> almark: i have 2 harddisks, one of them is my /home partition and it's LVM
[18:20] <imc_> x264 system>preferences>mouse
[18:20] <Pici> lasivian: I assume that you left the 'ask me for confirmation' checkbox unchecked, have you tried using a different vnc client?
[18:20] <lasivian> yes it's unchecked, no I have not
[18:20] <faria__> what is data services equipment id ?? labled on my pc casing .
[18:21] <imc_> Re-post: 8.10 on MacBookPro Santa Rosa - anyone figure out how to adjust the brightness?
[18:21] <derdon> imc_: with F1 and F2 *SCNR*
[18:21] <x264> imc_ theres no option there to disable copy/paste
[18:21] <imc_> derdon, checking
[18:22] <badawi> almark: please don't pm me, we can discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:22] <Kerin> Is there any way to catch all of a specific process' network activity - which is to say, get a list of all IPs that a process has sent data to?
[18:22] <imc_> x264 Oh, hmmm. Sorry about that.
[18:22] <scientes> why does low graphics mode go lower than framebuffer resolution if you have specifically edfined a higher framebuffer resolution
[18:22] <badawi> !ot | almark
[18:22] <almark> will do badawi
[18:22] <scientes> the minimim should be pegged exactally at framebuffer resolution
[18:23] <scientes> also cant X work on a framebuffer or not?
[18:23] <imc_> derdon, on my system for some reason F1/F2 have no effect on brightness. . . :(
[18:23] <lasivian> tried another vnc program and got "No security type suitable for RFB 3.3 supported"
[18:23] <MrCollins> can someone help me with sharing a folder in samba so my windows machine can read and write to it?
[18:23] <derdon> imc_: maybe Fn+F1 or Fn+F2
[18:24] <imc_> neither that! Thanks derdon, I'll trawl the web for a bit
[18:25] <lasivian_> use encrypted was checked, but I unchcked it, should I reboot after doing so?
[18:25] <balau> MrCollins, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 is the guide I followed
[18:25] <MrCollins> balau thank you
[18:26] <vladtsepesh1985> i'have installed synce and all went good...i can see my smartphone files but when i run synce-sync-engine and it return this errors http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/83062/....what i have to do???
[18:26] <riot_> Hello
[18:29] <scientes> how do i package a module?
[18:29] <ikonia> scientes: quite a long process to package up files
[18:29] <scientes> ok then where should i put it?
[18:29] <ikonia> scientes: if you read the motu packaging guide you may get a good idea
[18:29] <ikonia> scientes: what do you mean where should you put it
[18:30] <scientes> i just build the nvidia driver
[18:30] <ikonia> scientes: what module is it?  who wrote it ?
[18:30] <cQ> how can i install moc?
[18:30] <ikonia> scientes: you don't need to build it, it's closed source
[18:30] <scientes> (or its compat layer)
[18:30] <cQ> how can i install moc?i use ubuntu 8.10
[18:30] <ikonia> cQ: moc ? what is moc ?
[18:30] <scientes> you still have to build the interface
[18:30] <badawi> qt4
[18:30] <scientes> now where do i put the .ko file
[18:30] <Pici> cQ: sudo apt-get install moc
[18:30] <ikonia> scientes: yes, but that is very fussy it's wise to build that on each install
[18:31] <cQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83084/
[18:31] <cQ> got that error
[18:31] <waldfrank__> i'm searching for the conf files of the Network-Manager, because it do not save me configuration after a reboot
[18:31] <n8tuser> waldfrank__-> /etc/network/interfaces
[18:31] <scientes> but the regular method didnt work, so where do i put this one i just built?
[18:31] <ikonia> cQ sudo apt-get install moc
[18:32] <ikonia> scientes what regular method
[18:32] <scientes> apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[18:32] <evans2088> ...
[18:32] <scientes> or it usually does it automatically now
[18:32] <badawi> cQ: it's telling you what to do
[18:32] <waldfrank__> when I use the "interfaces" NM only show me the "lo" and i cant use openvpn or something else
[18:33] <cQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83088/
[18:33] <Slart> fwaokda: I meant the checkbox "Play alert sound".. if it's checked I get the system beep in the consol.. if it's unchecked I don't get the system beep..
[18:33] <cQ> got that when i type "moc" in terminal
[18:33] <Slart> fwaokda: and I'm not talking about the "Alert sound" sound effect.. this it the beep from the speaker inside the case
[18:33] <krish> i have mediawiki installed on my server and I need to edit the skin of the mediawiki but iam not able to locate the file. can anyone help?
[18:33] <cQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83084/
[18:34] <Pici> cQ: Did you just install it?
[18:34] <badawi> cQ: do you need it with the qt3 or qt4?
[18:34] <cQ> what is qt3/4??
[18:34] <Pici> badawi: moc is cli
[18:35] <Pici> cQ: If you just installed it, you may need to either open a new terminal or run hash in your current one.
[18:35] <badawi> Pici: read cQ paste
[18:35] <n8tuser> waldfrank__-> add the other interfaces on that file if you want to use them
[18:35] <badawi> Pici: nevermind let me try it
[18:35] <Kwipper> Hey guys. I am having a problem with Ubuntu. I can't even get it installed in my machine. It gives a weird error.. which I managed to record.
[18:35] <horstle> hi
[18:35] <cQ> i think i already installed it=http://paste.ubuntu.com/83084/
[18:36] <Kwipper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Qgvu1rPRo This here is the error message.
[18:36]  * badawi gives up
[18:36] <waldfrank__> i know how to use the interfaces and it works but i need a running NM, because of openVPN and different WLAN-Spots
[18:36] <Pici> cQ: It looks like the name of the actual moc exectutable is mocp
[18:36] <cQ> install mocp??
[18:37] <n8tuser> waldfrank__-> if you want to respond to me, prefix your responses with my nick, as a courtesy
[18:37] <Pici> cQ: No. the pakcage name is moc, the binary is mocp
[18:37] <Pici> cQ: Just run mocp
[18:38] <cQ> yeah..i can see it
[18:38]  * badawi feels yet another paste is on the way :p
[18:38] <TecR0c> What program on ubuntu can i use to burn a data cd ?
[18:38] <Pici> !burning | TecR0c
[18:39] <krish>  i have mediawiki installed on my server and I need to edit the skin of the mediawiki but iam not able to locate the file. can anyone help?
[18:39] <TecR0c> Pici, what is the default one that comes with ubuntu ?
[18:39] <marenostrum> Hello. Ubuntu 8.10 here; Web upgraded from 8.04. And Firefox 3.0.4. Problem: When I connect to wwww.vtunnel.com (which is a web proxy) and connect to www.youtube.com via vtunnel (I can connect), videos can not be played. But if I connect to youtube directly, I can play videos. On the other hand, another Linux distro -with Firefox 3.0.4 as well- can connect youtube via vtunnel. What may be the reason? (As I remember, with 8.04 I could connect youtube
[18:39] <marenostrum>  via vtunnel)
[18:39] <cQ> pici::it is quite strange when almost all question can be solved here.u guys know a lot about linux??u all are??
[18:39] <FloodBot2> marenostrum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <Pici> cQ: We try to :)
[18:39] <TecR0c> its ok found it
[18:39] <TecR0c> :)
[18:39] <Pici> TecR0c: Brasero I beleive.
[18:40] <cQ> u use linux over 50 years??
[18:40] <robert__> if i am using hardy, can i upgrade my alsa to incude the newest libasound2?
[18:40] <badawi> krish: use dpkg -L <mediawiki pkg name> to see the listing for it
[18:40] <almark> how do you skip the partition part of the Ubuntu install, everything is partitioned for install. I just want to install. I am in the live-cd Gnome desktop at the moment?
[18:40] <poofsiepoofs> has anybody ever gotten ventrillo to work in ubuntu?
[18:40] <robert__> my repos wont allow me to do a dist-upgrade
[18:40] <ty__> hello
[18:40] <ty__> is any1 here?
[18:41] <Pici> ty__: Yes.
[18:41] <almark> It keeps going to my second disk my Xp disk I just want to it use the sda disk not the sdb
[18:41] <Linuxman> ok
[18:41] <wiijii> poofsiepoofs No, but have you tried Mumble?
[18:41] <Linuxman> does any1 know how to install graphics drivers in ubuntulike Via Chrom 9 igp drivers?
[18:41] <Pici> almark: Then don't use the automatic partitioning process.
[18:42] <almark> I dont want to use it, I want to skip it
[18:42] <Linuxman> any1?
[18:42] <n8tuser> Kwipper-> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-637776.html
[18:42] <badawi> almark: when in partitioner phase, select manual or custom option, not sure which one it's called. then to tell ubuntu to install in a pre-existing partition, just select to format it and assign it a mount point
[18:43] <almark> that is true, but it still shows sdb
[18:43] <peleg> help? I was in the middle of upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10, and I got "The system was unable to get the prerequisites for the upgrade. The upgrade will abort now and restore the original system state."
[18:43] <peleg> and then "Please report this as a bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport."
[18:43] <Linuxman> well bye
[18:43] <n8tuser> almark-> how many disk you have? and which disk  you want the linux installed?
[18:44] <badawi> almark: backup, did you select the use free space option or something like that?
[18:44] <almark> no
[18:44] <almark> Its not installed yet
[18:44] <n8tuser> !who
[18:44] <almark> ok
[18:46] <peleg> What should I do? I have to upgrade since 7.04 is not supported anymore, but I can't, so I'm stuck. I can't file a bug report now, since I'm a student and I took a day off in order to do this upgrade. I have to succeed today :-|
[18:46] <badawi> where can i find screenshots of the live-cd installtion? 8.10
[18:46] <n8tuser> peleg-> you can install 8.04  -- download it first,
[18:47] <jtapio> Hello, I need help with Miro. Are you familiar with Miro.
[18:47] <peleg> n8tuser, but in ubuntu's site they say that I have to upgrade to 7.10 and only then to 8.04
[18:47] <IceWind> hi! is it possibel in Nautilus having it in list mode to only select a file/folder only when we click on top of the text instead of anywhere on that file row? like happens on windows?
[18:47] <jtapio> Miro seems not to download NEW/ALL videos,
[18:47] <jtapio> i have to download my Miro videos by manually..
[18:47] <Rascal999> I've changed the hostname of the linux box but I can only ping using old hostname, what do I need to do?
[18:47] <zsquareplusc> peleg: you still can http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[18:47] <Kwipper> This is the error I get when I try to run the live CD or install ubuntu. Can anyone translate this into ENGLISH so I can figure out what the problem is? http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00019wj0.jpg
[18:48] <peleg> zsquareplusc, what do you mean?
[18:48] <marenostrum> @peleg: havea look here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[18:48] <n8tuser> peleg-> a fresh instal of 8.04, do you have enuff space for a new install?  am assuming your /home is in a separate partition
[18:48] <peleg> marenostrum, I've read this, I think it is more relevant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[18:49] <JuJuBee> I have users authenticate via NIS to my server.  I would like to see who had a certain IP address on a specific day.  Where do I look?
[18:49] <zsquareplusc> peleg: upgrade from one to the other release until you're up to current
[18:49] <salmon> ok noob here. i was told that the new dist of ubuntu is out, but im not running it. i tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it told me everything is already upgraded but when i look and see what distro im running it tells me im still running 8.o4.1 anyone know what im doing wrong?
[18:49] <jtapio> hello..
[18:49] <jtapio> can someone help me..
[18:49] <salmon> hi
[18:49] <jtapio> i need help with Miro downloads
[18:49] <sc30317> salmon: you have to put the 8.10 repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:49] <peleg> zsquareplusc, ok, but what did you mean when you've said "you still can htpp://old-re..." ?
[18:49] <peleg> n8tuser, I don't know if I have enough space
[18:50] <n8tuser> peleg is /home in a separate partition?
[18:50] <salmon> sc30137: uhh... like i said, noob... how do i go about doing that
[18:50] <peleg> n8tuser, separate from what?
[18:50] <zsquareplusc> peleg: i thought you were complaining about not being able to upgrade from release to release because the old ones where not around anymore ;-)
[18:50] <poofsiepoofs> wiijii, what is mumble?
[18:50] <n8tuser> peleg-> separate partition  <-- ??
[18:51] <badawi> Kwipper: this has to do with the parameters passed to the kernel, try passing noirqdebug as a start
[18:51] <peleg> zsquareplusc, I'll repeat my "complain": I tried to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, and I got an error message: "The system was unable to get the prerequisites for the upgrade. The upgrade will abort now and restore the original system state."
[18:51] <Kwipper> badawi: How do I do that?
[18:51] <Kwipper> Do I type that in when I get the error message?
[18:51] <peleg> n8tuser, well, I have a few partitions here, but /home is together with /usr and /var, if that's what you're asking
[18:51] <poofsiepoofs> can mumble connect to ventriloo servers?????????????????
[18:51] <zsquareplusc> peleg: and your 7.04 was up to date?
[18:52] <peleg> zsquareplusc, well, I think so. I entered aptitude and clicked u and then g + g
[18:52] <n8tuser> peleg-> sudo fdisk -l  and post in pastebin please
[18:52] <vrtk> is it just me getting crazy or feisty fawn packages have just disappeared ?!
[18:52] <badawi> Kwipper: new before, when it's at the first menu thing
[18:52] <lasivian> is there a vnc server for Ubuntu that is better than "Remote Desktop"?
[18:52] <badawi> Kwipper: s/new/no
[18:52] <ShaunWing> say I've installed ubuntu and logging in with the username I created during installation but can't exit xorg.conf
[18:52] <marenostrum> Dear friends, may I ask in short, if anybody with Ubuntu 8.10 can connect www.youtube.com via www.vtunnel.com and actually can play a video?
[18:53] <Kwipper> Badawi: See the video. It will show everything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Qgvu1rPRo
[18:53] <n8tuser> lasivian-> what exactly is the problem you are having?
[18:53] <peleg> n8tuser, empty output
[18:53] <peleg> zsquareplusc, is there a way to check this?
[18:53] <ShaunWing> also how would I change the video mode from "vesa" to i810?
[18:53] <EDinNY> How do I get ubuntu to mount the compact flash drive from my camera?  I plugged it in, the kernel sees it, but ubuntu does not mount it.
[18:53] <lasivian> I cannot connect from any vnc client on windows to my Ubuntu box
[18:53] <n8tuser> peleg-> that is  sudo fdisk -l   as an ell not 1
[18:53] <lasivian> but an ubuntu box can connect to it fine
[18:53] <badawi> Kwipper: at the boot menu, press F6 and add it to that line
[18:54] <peleg> n8tuser, that's what I did (but without sudo)
[18:54] <uniformsquare> I have installed adobe flash player yet it fails to support flash in firefox
[18:54] <n8tuser> lasivian-> what is the exact error if any?
[18:54] <Kwipper> badawi Okay
[18:54] <zsquareplusc> peleg: what was 7.04? feisty? that has been partially removed. to check: are all packange lists downloaded on "update"?
[18:54] <n8tuser> peleg-> then follow directions will you
[18:54] <EDinNY> uniformsquare: did you install flash from the deb or by hand?
[18:54] <peleg> n8tuser, yes, I just missed it. a moment
[18:54] <balau> EDinNY, try to run lsusb inside a terminal
[18:54] <lasivian> and I just got a "InstallLocation has no file" error going from ubuntu to Ubuntu
[18:54] <maverique> Greetings everyone
[18:54] <n8tuser> !who | lasivian
[18:54] <Radit> ﻿can anybody recomend a good alarm program?
[18:54] <peleg> zsquareplusc, it was feisty, yes
[18:55] <uniformsquare> add/remove, then from the firefox plugin helper, then terminal
[18:55] <lasivian> n8tuser: server did not offer supported security type mac
[18:55] <zsquareplusc> peleg: alternatively edit sources.list to point to old-releases and update from there
[18:55] <salmon> ok so i was just told in order to get 8.10 i need to put the repositories in my /etc/apt/sources.list and to be honest i have no idea what that means,,, complete noob here... can anyone help me?
[18:55] <Nibblyn> The upgrade process has left several kernel versions installed and are available to grub during startup. As are short of space wonder what packages with synaptic uninstall (headers? modules? which versions?). Grub should refresh automatically.
[18:55] <peleg> zsquareplusc, that's what I did, but I'll do it again now.
[18:55] <n8tuser> Radit-> cron and anachron  also  at
[18:55] <ShaunWing> say I've installed ubuntu and logging in with the username I created during installation but can't edit xorg.conf - don't have permission - please help.
[18:55] <EDinNY> balau, lsusb finds: Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0781:b6b7 SanDisk Corp.
[18:56] <n8tuser> lasivian-> which vnc client are you using from windows? can you even ping the linux from windows?
[18:56] <EDinNY> shawnwing, try "sudo" before your edit command
[18:56] <peleg> zsquareplusc, deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse, deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse and deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse ?
[18:56] <Radit> n8tuser: i'd rather a gui ;-)
[18:56] <lasivian> n8tuser: The ubuntu box is behind a router, so no ping is possible. I tried tightvnc and ultravnc
[18:56] <zsquareplusc> peleg: yes
[18:56] <ShaunWing> sorry what is sudo
[18:56] <zsquareplusc> !sudo
[18:57] <ShaunWing> tx
[18:57] <n8tuser> Radit-> cron and anachron  also  at   has gui front end, google for them please
[18:57] <peleg> zsquareplusc, then sudo aptitude, u for update, and g says "No packages are scheduled to be installed, removed, or upgraded.". Does that mean that my feisty is up-to-date ?
[18:57] <uniformsquare> what is better? swfdec or gnash?
[18:57] <Radit> n8tuser: all right.. thanks..
[18:57] <EDinNY> uniformsquare: I used the "sudo apt-get flash-nonfree", then restarted firefox, then it worked
[18:57] <n8tuser> lasivian-> behind a router?  when you are doing the linux to linux -- is the other linux on same subnet as the windows?
[18:57] <badawi> almark: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-8-10-97417.shtml
[18:58] <badawi> almark: where are you at?
[18:58] <zsquareplusc> peleg: it downloaded the package lists? then yes.
[18:58] <lasivian> n8tuser: No, this is over the internet
[18:58] <peleg> n8tuser, http://paste.freeallweb.org/88
[18:58] <balau> ShaunWing, if you need to use gedit or some editor, please use "gksu gedit xorg.conf" instead of "sudo gedit xorg.conf"
[18:58] <EDinNY> uniformsquare: not sure which depository you need to enable...try google
[18:58] <lasivian> the ubuntu that works and the windows that does not work are in the same place
[18:58] <peleg> zsquareplusc, ok, so now I should update the sources list again, or go straight to the update manager to upgrade?
[18:58] <n8tuser> lasivian-> then you have to kind of understand that the router in front of linux has to forward those packets towards the linux
[18:59] <almark> :badawi sorry I can't get my Ubuntu installer closed
[18:59] <lasivian> n8tuser: yes, I know that, and the ubuntu box is connecting just fine, but the windows box next to it is refusing to connect
[19:00] <lasivian> n8tuser: route to server is not an issue, the ports are setup properly to forward packets
[19:00] <almark> :badawi I can't find it to kill it and restart it
[19:00] <zsquareplusc> peleg: hm. not sure if the upgrade can cope with the old-releases urls. but maybe the upgrade runs an upgrade before upgrading.. so.. maybe try with old-releases. you seem to have already tried the other
[19:00] <n8tuser> peleg  also post results of   mount   command, you seemed to have spaces on /dev/sda6 per your post
[19:00] <cQ> my partition not mount automatically.how to make it mount auto??
[19:00] <n8tuser> lasivian->   when you are doing the linux to linux -- is the other linux on same subnet as the windows?  <-- you answered this?
[19:01] <uniformsquare> I tried "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" it re-installed but still no dice
[19:01] <almark> :badawi how do I close the installer how do I force it?
[19:01] <n8tuser> cQ  add it to /etc/fstab or you have to modify your udev rules (assuming it is hot plug in?)
[19:02] <badawi_> almark: i got disconnected, where are you at now in relation to this http://www.shivaranjan.com/2008/11/04/ubuntu-linux-intrepid-ibex-810-installation-guide-walk-through/
[19:02] <_juan> hi! i am trying to compile my kernel using ubuntu's kernel configuration file, where can i find it?
[19:02] <almark> :badawi thanks :)
[19:02] <jedi06> how do you go to the background while a process is running in the terminal?
[19:02] <n8tuser> uniformsquare-> you have to add to either /usr/lib/mozilla  or /usr/lib/firefox   plugins directory the libflashplugin.so
[19:02] <peleg> zsquareplusc, got "While scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the upgrade was found.This can happen if you run a internal mirror or if the mirror information is out of date."
[19:02] <goodshit> hi. anyone got their sound working with this build in soundcard motherboard. abit AI7?? can someone please help, I cannot get my sound working :(
[19:02] <peleg> zsquareplusc, and then "Do you want to rewrite your 'sources.list' file anyway? If you choose 'Yes' here it will update all 'feisty' to 'gutsy' entries.
[19:02] <peleg> If you select 'no' the update will cancel."
[19:02] <n8tuser> _juan-> in /boot/config*
[19:03] <_juan> ok
[19:03] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[19:03] <almark> man flood
[19:04] <goodshit> hi. anyone got their sound working with this build in soundcard motherboard. abit AI7?? can someone please help, I cannot get my sound working :(
[19:04] <peleg> fun fun fun
[19:04] <cQ> seem hard to configure :(
[19:04] <peleg> zsquareplusc, did you see my question before the netsplit ?
[19:04] <goodshit> hello??
[19:04] <cQ> what happened??
[19:04] <goodshit> can someone help me??
[19:04] <goodshit> hi. anyone got their sound working with this build in soundcard motherboard. abit AI7?? can someone please help, I cannot get my sound working :(
[19:05] <sysdoc> Now that was special
[19:05] <Pretto> hehehhhee
[19:05] <rww> !ohmy | goodshit
[19:05] <mave> who played with the plug?
[19:06] <rww> !netsplit | mave, cQ
[19:06] <aboyz> is this better?
[19:06] <rww> aboyz: much, thanks :)
[19:06] <aboyz> hi. anyone got their sound working with this build in soundcard motherboard. abit AI7?? can someone please help, I cannot get my sound working :(
[19:06] <cQ> owh...i think it spam.lol
[19:07] <sebastian> hi i am using ubuntu eee, and why wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted
[19:07] <almark> what is going on here ?
[19:07] <Nibblyn> The upgrade process has left several kernel versions installed and are available to grub during startup. Because I'm short on space I wonder which packages to uninstall with synaptic: everything starting with the old versions number? (headers? modules?). Grub should refresh automatically.
[19:07] <LjL-Simmons> !netsplit
[19:07] <peleg> Ok, I'm stuck. there's a catch here -- feisty is not supported, hence I can't upgrade to 7.10.   What should I do?
[19:07] <fosco___> Nibblyn, yes
[19:07] <balau> Nibblyn, i solved by removing the old linux-image
[19:07] <almark> I forgot the name I was speaking with
[19:07] <badawi> me?
[19:07] <almark> yes
[19:08] <rww> Nibblyn: issue uname -r from a terminal. You can remove anything linux kernel related that has a version number other than the latest one, the uname -r one, and (optionally) one extra one (to be safe)
[19:08] <sebastian> hi i am using ubuntu eee, and why wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted
[19:08] <uniformsquare> under usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree there is no file
[19:08] <rww> Nibblyn: and that includes image, headers, modules
[19:08] <almark> :badawi I can't close the installer I need to reopen it. what do i do
[19:08] <rubystallion> A long time ago I messed up my locale settings, which provokes many errors, even the "command-not-found" function of the terminal crashes. In tracebacks I always see LC_ALL="";LC_CTYPE="";LANG="fr_FR@euro";LNG="fr_FR". How do I correct this?
[19:08] <AlabamaHit> Hello, I'm into web development. I want to get completely dependent on Linux. But I need to be able to view web sites in different browsers. Are there any browsers in Linux that Look(display) a page like Internet Explore. I do not want to run wine....I was just wondering if a web browser displayed the same. For example I know Firefox Dont...What about like Opera.?
[19:08] <Painkilla05> arg I cant log in to my ubuntu :C
[19:08] <badawi> almark: you want to exit the installtion altogether?
[19:08] <peleg> AlabamaHit, no
[19:09] <almark> :badawi yes pls
[19:09] <aboyz> hi. anyone got their sound working with this build in soundcard motherboard. abit AI7?? can someone please help, I cannot get my sound working :(
[19:09] <peleg> AlabamaHit, you may consider using web services that provide screenshots
[19:09] <badawi> almark: the quit button is not working?
[19:09] <almark> :badawi what is with all the flooding?
[19:09] <LjL-Simmons> !netsplit
[19:09] <sebastian> hi i am using ubuntu eee, and why wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted
[19:09] <rww> !locales | rubystallion
[19:09] <almark> :badawi no something got froze
[19:09] <badawi> almark: try ctrl+alt+del
[19:09] <balau> almark try sudo xkill and target the window
[19:10] <rubystallion> rww: I'll try that, thank you!
[19:10] <almark> :badawi lol I thought that would just take me back to term ok
[19:10] <badawi> almark: did your write to the partition?
[19:10] <badawi> almark: that's ctrl+alt+backspace
[19:10] <sebastian> hi i am using ubuntu eee, and why wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted
[19:10] <sebastian> my*
[19:10] <badawi> !busier
[19:10] <cQ> i right click on one of google hits then it open with new window.sometime it open an email client also bookmark option.y this happen??i use ubuntu 8.10(2.6.27-9-generic) with Mozilla Firefox 3.0.4, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[19:11] <almark> :badawi yes in gentoo I did, listen I didn't have to good of luck with the ubuntustudio installer, so I use Gentoo or something else with cfdisk.
[19:11] <sebastian> hi i am using ubuntu eee, and my wireless dont work, it gets a signal but the internet dont work, when i installed this it worked fine untill i rebooted
[19:11] <badawi> almark: too bad, i'm liking ubuntu :)
[19:11] <balau> cQ, try to keep your right button down until the menu appears
[19:12] <peleg> help, please. It took me two hours to get convinced that the right thing to do is to upgrade 7.04->7.10, and I took a day off in order to do it. For more than 2 hours now I can't do any progress - 7.04 is not supported, hence, I can't get active mirrors in order to perform the upgrade, even though my system is up-to-date
[19:12] <balau> cQ, when you release the right button while highlighting a menu entry, you perform the action on that menu
[19:12] <almark> :badawi I like it too badawi I just want to keep gentoo, that hmtl you gave me should do it thanks , and what is with all the flooding from ppl leaving?
[19:12] <rww> !netsplit > almark
[19:12] <cQ> im not highlight
[19:12] <almark> what does !netsplit mean
[19:13] <HeReTiK> hi
[19:13] <peleg> almark, the bot explained you
[19:13] <skorasaurus> !gpg
[19:13] <Pici> almark: They are triggers for ubottu to say something
[19:13] <cQ> see previous msg
[19:13] <badawi> almark: i have all JOINS/QUITS/PARTS on permenant ignore, so i don't see any of it in irssi
[19:13] <almark> thanks I read it
[19:13] <rubystallion> rww: Does localeconf exist for intrepid? I don't seem find it.
[19:13] <rww> peleg: maybe the thread at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-December/026965.html might help?
[19:14] <peleg> rww, thanks, I'll read it
[19:14] <almark> :badawi I'm still new to irc so I'm learning
[19:14] <rww> rubystallion: hmm. If not, edit /var/lib/locales/supported.d/en yourself, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[19:14] <Nibblyn> rww, fosco___, balau: thanks, will check that "uname -r one" command
[19:14] <rww> Nibblyn: i forgot to explain: uname -r shows the current kernel version you're using ;)
[19:15] <zsquareplusc> peleg: ok, netsplits and afk :/ how what's your state now?
[19:15] <peleg> rww, no, I knew that; I had put http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ in my sources list, and updated the system, hence it is up-to-date
[19:15] <balau> cQ, i think firefox is opening the context menu exactly while you are releasing the right button, so you don't see the menu but you selected the "random" entry that appears beneath the cursor. I don't know how to fix this beside keeping the right button down
[19:15] <peleg> zsquareplusc, got "While scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the upgrade was found.This can happen if you run a internal mirror or if the mirror information is out of date."
[19:15] <peleg> zsquareplusc, and then "Do you want to rewrite your 'sources.list' file anyway? If you choose 'Yes' here it will update all 'feisty' to 'gutsy' entries.
[19:15] <peleg> If you select 'no' the update will cancel."
[19:16] <Mingebag> oh hi, how are all 1000 of you today
[19:16] <zsquareplusc> peleg: it looks fine for me to say yes.
[19:16] <MetalliMyers> I'm fine thanks
[19:17] <peleg> zsquareplusc, ok, I'll do it, but I think that this is what I did last time
[19:17] <rubystallion> rww: Hmm, in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/fr everything was already set to utf-8, but LANG is still "fr_FR@euro" and LC_ALL and LC_CTYPE are still empty. Any ideas?
[19:18] <peleg> zsquareplusc, I have pressed yes, and got many errors, including "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[19:18] <rww> rubystallion: did you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[19:18] <peleg> "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found", "Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" and so on
[19:18] <rubystallion> rww: Yes I did. Nothing changed.
[19:18] <Radit> is installing a deb from getdeb.net safe?
[19:19] <badawi> rubystallion: also see if seeting it during login from gdm
[19:19] <LjL-Simmons> Radiinot very
[19:19] <LjL-Simmons> radit: not very
[19:19] <Radit> ljl-simmons:hmm...
[19:19] <Pici> peleg: old-releases.ubuntu.com doesnt hold current releases. You'll need to change that to archive.ubuntu.com from either manually editing /etc/apt/sources.list or by using software sources.
[19:19] <Nibblyn> rww: LOL  ok... my version is 2.6.24-22-generic. will search with synaptic "2.6.24" and uninstall everything under 2.6.24-22.
[19:20] <rubystallion> badawi: I tried that. What's interesting is that it remains the same, even if I set the locale to en_US at the log-in and all the menus stay French.
[19:20] <rww> Nibblyn: good plan :)
[19:20] <peleg> Pici, I think we've had this discussion before... but I'll do that again (I feel that I am trapped in a loop)
[19:20] <Nibblyn> rww: thanks :)
[19:20] <zsquareplusc> peleg: argh. so it cant cope with the old-releases url. seems you have to change them back to archives before the upgrade
[19:20] <krish> how to upload images in mediawiki? iam using ubuntu 8.04 server edition
[19:20] <rubystallion> badawi: Only the prompt for username and password changes the language ;-)
[19:21] <badawi> rubystallion: sounds like a bug
[19:21] <rubystallion> badawi: I don't know. I'm sure it started when I messed with the locale settings some months ago. And it didn't change with the upgrade to intrepid.
[19:22] <cousteau> Nibblyn: why uninstall 2.6.24-22? just configure GRUB to boot from an older kernel
[19:22] <peleg> Pici, zsquareplusc: that's ok: http://paste.freeallweb.org/89  ??
[19:22] <rww> krish: ask in #mediawiki
[19:22] <badawi> rubystallion: env | grep LANG
[19:22] <krish> rww how to join mediawiki from here
[19:22] <rww> krish: /join #mediawiki
[19:22] <rubystallion> LANG=fr_FR@euro GDM_LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
[19:22] <badawi> rubystallion: so gdm is not setting it?
[19:23] <rww> cousteau, Nibblyn: Nibblyn's removing old kernel versions, not downgrading kernels. I don't think cousteau's advice applies ;)
[19:23] <cousteau> ok, forget about my comment
[19:23] <rubystallion> badawi: Hmm, apparently not. I guess if I changed the language at the login screen only GDM_LANG would change?
[19:24] <badawi> rubystallion: no both should change in theory
[19:24] <badawi> rubystallion: testing ...
[19:24] <zsquareplusc> peleg: you manually changed to feisty too? (still at gutsy) so your going to use dist-upgrade
[19:24] <rubystallion> badawi: okay
[19:24] <rww> Guest37730: if you really want the nickname "sean", ask for it to be dropped in #freenode, then !register it
[19:24] <rww> !register | Guest37730
[19:25] <cousteau> "uninstall everything UNDER 2.6.24-22"... I read too fast
[19:25] <peleg> zsquareplusc, didn't understand you, sorry; I got the computer with feisty on it
[19:25] <jora> how does this work?
[19:25] <jora> can anyone tell me how to get a mic going on ubuntu
[19:25] <cousteau> anyway, I'd keep -19 since I have some problems with YouTube videos on -21 and -22
[19:25] <zsquareplusc> peleg: i dont understand myself.. heh. that's fine then.
[19:26] <jora> is anyone able to read this?
[19:26] <rww> jora: yes. If someone knows the solution to your problem, they'll reply to you :)
[19:26] <cousteau> jora: to read what?
[19:26] <peleg> Pici, do you know if I have the right sources in sources.list in order to upgrade? Was that what you've meant?
[19:27] <cousteau> jora: any error message?
[19:27] <forces> hi!
[19:27] <jora> i just wanted to know, if i'm actually sending, and not only receiving
[19:27] <jora> it's my first time using this thing xD
[19:28] <forces> I'm looking for a comunity near to Los Angeles CA
[19:28] <Pici> forces: Try asking in #ubuntu-us-ca
[19:28] <Pici> forces: or just #ubuntu-us
[19:28] <forces> thanks
[19:28] <rww> Pici, forces: didn't #ubuntu-us-ca move to #ubuntu-california ?
[19:29] <Pici> rww: I guess it did...
[19:29] <Pici> peleg: You should only have to change it to old-releases to make sure that you have update-manager upgraded to the latest version.  After that you should change it to archive.u.com and then try to upgrade.
[19:30] <rubystallion> badawi: Did you test if both locales change normally?
[19:30] <Flimm> What's funner, TrueCombat Elite or Urban Terror?
[19:31] <Wargasm> anyone know what's wrong if apache is only working on localhost and not my IP address? I haven't restarted ubuntu yet.
[19:31] <peleg> Pici, that's what I did. my sources file is, now, after I've already updated my system, is this: http://paste.freeallweb.org/89. Trying to upgrade, I am getting many errors, including "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]" and "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.8
[19:31] <peleg> 8.46 80]"
[19:32] <zsquareplusc> Wargasm: either apache only binds to localhost insted of all interfaces or you have a hosts.deny or firewall
[19:32] <ricsi> sziasztok
[19:33] <Wargasm> i've got all the default settings.
[19:33] <Pici> peleg: Hmm..
[19:33] <ricsi> tudna nekem valaki segíteni 1 picit?
[19:33] <badawi> rubystallion: hey there, yes it did work, i didn't have any languages other than english, but i selected english UK and that did change both LANG and GDM_LANG
[19:33] <rww> !hu | ricsi
[19:33] <Wargasm> zsquareplusc, so if i have all default settings can it still go wrong?
[19:33] <ricsi> okay thx
[19:34] <rubystallion> badawi: I guess locale is probably looking in different places for locale settings, like system-wide and user-wide? I mean there has to be a configuration file somewhere, where LANG is set to fr_FR@euro, doesn't there?
[19:34] <Pici> peleg: Is that after you click the button to upgrade to a new release?
[19:34] <zsquareplusc> Wargasm: i dont know the defaults well, but it's possible that apache only binds to localhost due to security reasons.
[19:35] <Wargasm> true, zsquareplusc....I'll go through the config file. thanks.
[19:35] <peleg> Pici, yes. on the stage of "preparing the upgrade"
[19:36] <badawi> rubystallion: sorry i can't help you with it
[19:37] <Pici> peleg: Let me think about this..
[19:37] <rubystallion> badawi: Okay, I'll search a little on my own. Thanks anyway!
[19:37] <peleg> Pici, I'm here. thank you very much
[19:37] <sara_> hi any way i can coltrol my desktop remotly using my eee 701?
[19:38] <rww> !vnc | sara_
[19:38] <sara_> rww i know its not working though
[19:39] <zsquareplusc> pici, peleg, isnt the update manager trying to do an "update" of the current distro before continuing? and feisty (main) inst anymore on archives. maybe there is a switch to skip that check
[19:39] <sara_> i can do it the otherway roiund
[19:39] <zsquareplusc> sara_: you can share your desktop
[19:39] <rww> sara_: Which of the methods on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC did you use?
[19:40] <peleg> zsquareplusc, I don't know; I guess I'll wait to pici's answer
[19:40] <zsquareplusc> yup
[19:40] <cousteau> Remote desktop viewer (Vinagre) is a good choice
[19:41] <Slade605> Hey guys, I am having an issue getting my up/down volume keys on my keyboard to work, It stopped working after fixing my microphone
[19:41] <sara_> rww: i didnt read that
[19:42] <ig0r1> Hello everyone!
[19:42] <rww> sara_: give it a read through and try the stuff there. It might help guide you though some of the nuances of setting things up.
[19:42] <msivanich> Is it possible to set up 2 x sessions.  One that runs on one video card and one that runs on another?
[19:42] <ig0r1> does anybody know how can I check if my videocard drivers are installed??
[19:42] <msivanich> ig0r1: what kind of video card do you have?
[19:42] <almark> Hello, the Ubuntu install will not let me choose the disk that I want to install it. The disk it wants to install on is my second disk, how Do I install Ubuntu to the first disk, that has Gentoo on it?
[19:43] <ZeZu> us.archive is down ?
[19:43] <cousteau> almark: isn't there a "set partitions manually" option?
[19:43] <rww> ZeZu: nope, just slow
[19:44] <almark> :cousteau yes but it keeps taking me to sdb not sda that is my problem, and there is no option to do so.
[19:44] <ig0r1> msivanich: It's a laptop, I'm not sure but I think its Intel GMA 950
[19:45] <msivanich> ig0r1: run 'lspci' from the terminal and you should be able to see it in there, will say VGA device
[19:45] <almark> :cousteau my setup is Gentoo on the first master disk and xp on the second slave one.
[19:46] <dfkuhgd> test
[19:46] <cousteau> it's strange that the installer only shows sdb* partitions and not sda*
[19:46] <mw-home_> I want my box to connect with a static IP address, but the dhclient daemon keeps overriding that.  How do I kill it?
[19:47] <fabry> aaaaaaaaaaa
[19:47] <almark> :cousteau it is but its true
[19:47] <Pici> peleg: Take a look at this bug, try the workaround it suggests: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/235527
[19:47] <cousteau> as the last option you can disconnect your sdb while installing, and reconnect and configure after ubuntu is installed
[19:47] <peleg> Pici, thanks, I will
[19:47] <orogor> hi , is there a channel for unbuntu amd64 ?
[19:47] <almark> :cousteau I'm going to have to.
[19:47] <msivanich> almark: or just stick with gentoo ;)
[19:47] <Pici> orogor: Nope, just here.
[19:48] <almark> :msivanich I want both ;)
[19:48] <orogor> i got 1-2 system freeze per day, i guess (instinct) it s related to the wireless driver (atheros) is there any thing i can do about that, (bug reports, diagnostics ?)
[19:49] <ig0r1> msivanich: It says 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller   If my card is GMA 950 Gfx it would be OK or i have to install them?
[19:49] <Singldor> test
[19:49] <orogor> Singldor, how ?
[19:49] <almark> :cousteau I am hoping there could be a way to disconnect my other drive in bios, I dont want to open my computer for the 10th time in a month
[19:49] <rww> !test | Singldor
[19:50] <msivanich> ig0r1: check your xconfig /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look to see that its loading i810 (i think thats the correct module)  Can also parse through the Xorg log in /var/log to see what module it is loading
[19:50]  * ]Schakal[ hello
[19:50] <cousteau> well, once my PC guarantee ended, I opened a lot of times (even removed the screw so I could open it easily)
[19:50] <Slade605> Hey guys, I've volume adjusters on my Keyboard and it shows the volume going up but isn't changing anything at all, any suggestions on where to look?
[19:51] <cousteau> but maybe you can disconnect the HD from BIOS
[19:51] <cQ> c ya guys,im going to take bed..need some sleep.have nice day :)
[19:51] <peleg> Pici, ok, now it complains that there is not enough disk space. I'll handle that. thanks!
[19:52] <cousteau> Slade605: the speaker icon in your desktop may change
[19:52] <zsquareplusc> peleg: apt-get clean :-) you might have a bunch of debs from the last upgrade
[19:52] <peleg> zsquareplusc, thanks!
[19:52] <cousteau> or, hover the speaker icon, read the volume, use the vol keys and hover the icon again
[19:52] <Slade605> cousteau: That is the wierd thing, the onscreen volume level shows up and changes it, it USED TO work before getting my mic to work but now this doesn't adjust anything
[19:53] <ig0r1> msivanich: no it isn't loading. in Section "Device" I see Identifier - "Configured Video Device"
[19:53] <Slade605> cousteau: It feels like it's adjusting something I am not using like a surround sound speaker or something like that
[19:53] <cousteau> Slade605: double-click the icon so you can see all your controls
[19:54] <MrCollins> !ftp client
[19:54] <Slade605> cousteau: did that, and when i press it up or down it shows change, but none of them move, for playback or recording
[19:54] <MrCollins> !gFTP
[19:54] <peleg> do you know how to clean evolution's cache? I have about 1 GB there..
[19:54] <omshanti> how do i edit my "PATH variable"?
[19:54] <cousteau> maybe you changed the "controlled device"
[19:54] <msivanich> ig0r1: so you see nothing under "Device" section that says Driver "<module name>"
[19:54] <cousteau> Slade605: there are about 5 screens with different tabs
[19:55] <punzada> Question regarding awk, I'm aware I can use it to display the output of the field number using $1, $2, does anyone know how to also restrict it to a specific record number?
[19:55] <omshanti> also i try to save something in gedit and it crashes
[19:55] <badawi> is there a verbose flag in grub? or do i just remove the quiet flag?
[19:55] <tronyx> your PATH is in ~/.profile Omikane_
[19:55] <ig0r1> msivanich: no I only see that line
[19:55] <tronyx> * omshanti ^
[19:56] <rww> badawi: you mean to see info text during boot? remove the quiet flag
[19:56] <cousteau> Slade605: which device is selected when you right-click the volume icon and select "preferences"?
[19:56] <omshanti>  what tronyx?
[19:56] <badawi> rww: yes that, do i replace it with verbose?
[19:56] <cousteau> mine is "ALSA mixer, Master mono"
[19:56] <rww> badawi: nope, just remove quiet. the default is verbose
[19:56] <Slade605> cousteau: Master, under the HDA intel (ALSA Mixer)
[19:56] <badawi> rww: great thanks
[19:57] <aboyz> hi. anyone got their sound working with this build in soundcard motherboard. abit AI7?? can someone please help, I cannot get my sound working :(
[19:57] <Slade605> cousteau:  when using the volume control with my mouse I adjust master under HDA intel and I can hear a clear difference in volume
[19:58] <cousteau> but you can't hear any difference when you use the keys?
[19:58] <Slade605> cousteau: and the icon matches the actual volume, the keys don't adjust the icon at all
[19:58] <barefoot> anyone else unable to copy/paste from local to remote (or vice versa i guess) in rdesktop?
[19:58] <Slade605> cousteau: it does the whole onscreen speaker and volume level when I use the keys
[19:58] <cousteau> maybe the keys are affecting another control, or no one
[19:59] <Slade605> cousteau: that is what I am thinking, I just don't have any idea how to change it
[19:59] <cousteau> oh, like the built-in amplifier
[19:59] <Slade605> cousteau:  I did system >preferences > keyboard short cuts, and it's setup correctly
[20:00] <candive> w do I change the timer on boot from 10 seconds to 3seconds. Thank you
[20:00] <Slade605> cousteau:  I just added a few more items to playback, and it looks like it's affecting microphone playback
[20:00] <ravalox_> Creative Labs SB Audigy LS; on Ubuntu 8.10 am I just SOL?
[20:00] <candive> typo How
[20:00] <boriscy> hI there Iam new to ubuntu, I have isntalled ubuntu feistyin my server but I can't install new packages using apt-get isntall
[20:00] <cousteau> candive: modify /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:00] <Slade605> boriscy:  try apt-get update first
[20:00] <cousteau> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:00] <boriscy> thanx
[20:01] <candive> cousteau, is that command in terminal?
[20:01] <cousteau> yes
[20:01] <ravalox_> I mean to say, does a Creative Labs SB Audigy LS make any sound onUbuntu 8.10?
[20:01] <candive> cousteau thanksthank you
[20:01] <cousteau> then look for "timeout 10" and change it to 3
[20:02] <candive> cousteau, command not found
[20:02] <candive> my mistake sudo
[20:02] <cousteau> it's on the 19th line
[20:02] <kristian1> if i apt-get install app, and i already have that app what will happen? :o nothing if same version and update if not same version???
[20:03] <Slade605> kristian1:  it should upgrade to the highest version currently in the repositories
[20:03] <rww> boriscy: Feisty is no longer supported, and thus its repositories have been removed from archive.ubuntu.com. You'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change the servernames in there to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[20:03] <gzibocod> Hi.
[20:04] <kristian1> Slade605 ok thanks. :)
[20:04] <boriscy> I have run apt-get update, but can't isntall using apt-get install
[20:04] <Slade605> boriscy:  see rww's comment above
[20:04] <candive> cousteau, command still not found
[20:04] <mebus> what does apt-get say ?
[20:04] <cousteau> which command? gedit?
[20:05] <Kozeris> I have 1 hdd with WinXp, i bought one more for [k]ubuntu, so how install it for that i  can choose which OS load, and if i want i could disconnect ubuntu, and then no menu appear and xp loads
[20:05] <boriscy> Thanx :D
[20:05] <rww> boriscy: if you only just installed Ubuntu, /strongly/ consider reinstalling a more recent version
[20:05] <Kozeris> its somehting to  configure linux disk, for that opop up table with choose, and if no that hdd then no table for OS
[20:05] <boriscy> I have installed ubuntu server
[20:05] <boriscy> rww
[20:05] <Slade605> Kozeris: do you want your 2nd disc to be bootable AND your first disk?
[20:06] <Kozeris> i have 1 disk with xp, i will connect 2nd, then instal on 2nd ubuntu
[20:06]  * heret1c wakes
[20:06] <Kozeris> and want to that when 2nd hdd is connected i getting  choose menu of operation sys
[20:06] <Kozeris> but if i disc 2nd hard with linux i not getting, and it loading like it was, and is now
[20:06] <KaiForce> is there a way to test whether a script has been run with sudo?
[20:06] <Slade605> Kozeris: Do you want them to know about each other or is it a wife/mistress situation?
[20:07] <rww> boriscy: Right. You just installed Ubuntu Server Feisty, which is from 2007. The lastest version is Ubuntu Server Intrepid (Oct. 2008). The latest Long Term Support release is Ubuntu Server Hardy (April 2008).
[20:07] <KaiForce> or otherwise force sudo for all the commands in the script?
[20:07] <Slade605> KaiForce: add su to the beginning of it?
[20:07] <cousteau> KaiForce: "sudo su" logs you as root
[20:07] <mebus> boriscy: you have to change your package sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> KaiForce: just put sudo in the script. If you run the script with sudo, all sudo commands will be executed as sudo
[20:07] <badawi> Kozeris: change the boot order in bios and install ubuntu on the second disk, with grub being on the second disk, when u're bored with ubuntu, switch the bios boot order to it's original form
[20:08] <mebus> probably to the archive version
[20:08] <chico> salut
[20:08] <chico> j'arrive po à agrandir une photo sous gimp
[20:08] <rww> cousteau: the preferred way of doing that is sudo -i
[20:08] <mebus> anyway I would install a more recent version
[20:08] <rww> !fr | chico
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> !fr | chico
[20:08] <KaiForce> if place sudo at the beginning of the script - the remaining commands will execute as sudo?  or do I need sudo on each line?
[20:08] <boriscy> mebus
[20:08] <barefoot> fwiw: "-r clipboard:PRIMARYCLIPBOARD" lets you copy paste to/from rdesktop
[20:08] <boriscy> how should I do that
[20:08] <jason__> quit
[20:08] <Slade605> KaiForce:  SuDo = Super User DO, it's per command, try adding su for a super user login initially
[20:09] <KaiForce> i need to insure that sudo is used as the sysadmin is absentminded
[20:09] <mebus> sorry, that's the problem I had with an old ubuntu
[20:09] <KaiForce> Slade605:  got it, that will work, thank you.
[20:09] <mebus> what error message do you get when you run sudo apt-get install ....
[20:09] <rww> boriscy: if you only just installed Ubuntu, it'd probably be easier to just download a CD image from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[20:09] <mebus> just to be curious
[20:09] <mebus> rww: I agree.
[20:10] <mebus> It's more secure also.
[20:10] <rww> boriscy: and wipe the install you just did and install intrepid/hardy from scratch.
[20:10] <boriscy> Thanx
[20:11] <mebus> Why does Ubuntu move the package sources to another URL, whe the release becomes to old ? I don't think that this is a good solution.
[20:11] <mebus> and rather anoying
[20:12] <KaiForce> Slade605 - what is the best way to test if the user entered the correct password - I need the script to abort if they do not.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mebus: if you are upgrading release they are updated for you
[20:12] <Slade605> KaiForce: use && after su ?
[20:12] <Constrabus> Does the 8.10 xubuntu install CD's kernel have ext4 support?
[20:12] <mebus> but I don't want to upgrade
[20:12] <ikonia> Constrabus no
[20:12] <rww> mebus: to cut down on the resources needed by the distributed mirrors
[20:12] <mebus> cause an upgrade can go wrong
[20:12] <Slade605> KaiForce: It really depends on the script
[20:13] <mebus> they could redirect the URL to another mirror.
[20:13] <rww> mebus: the old releases archive isn't mirrored. the new one is.
[20:13] <j0nr> evening all
[20:13] <j0nr> when i create a new user and then log into their account, nothing works
[20:13] <Brydenn> anyone else here use Cairo-Dock ?? Having some issues with it
[20:13] <j0nr> the desktop and panels load up but nothing responds to click, except the firefox launcher, but then you cant do anything in firefox... ie. cant type any addresses in etc.
[20:13] <mebus> rww: they simply don't want to provide mirrors for the old version - I understand.
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> mebus: an install can go wrong, anything can go wrong
[20:14] <j0nr> but my log in works fine... its just for new users
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> mebus: you can use backports
[20:14] <rww> mebus: besides, those releases are unsupported now. there's been plenty of warning that they'd be unsupported. it's kinda the user's problem at this point :P
[20:14] <j0nr> cant drop any of the menus down, like apps, places, system... noting responds
[20:14] <j0nr> have tried creating serveral users, all do the same thing ;/
[20:14] <mebus> yes, but I think I had only one succesufl distri-upgrade in about 4 to 5
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> mebus: my system hardware is 100% linux friendly works out of the box and I only use official repos
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> mebus: zero issues here
[20:15] <Brydenn> ActionParsnip, mine wasnt... kinda
[20:15] <Brydenn> my x-fi card took some work hehe
[20:16] <badawi> j0nr: are you creating their own folders? are you running out of space?
[20:16] <mebus> I think it's because I sometimes use debs from other side or install software via make install etc. Which is realy bad.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Brydenn: thats because creative are idiots
[20:16] <Brydenn> anyway, does anyone use that Cairo-Dock? could really use some help
[20:16] <Brydenn> ActionParsnip, yes i agree
[20:16] <j0nr> badawi: i am not running out of space... they all automatically get their own directory created... have a seperate partition for /home
[20:16] <jonaskoelker> how do I make pulseaudio persist across X sessions?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Brydenn: always check the hcl. dont buy cheap, buy smart
[20:17] <Constrabus> Does the development LiveCD have ext4 support built into its kernel?
[20:17] <bmk789> is there a way to put multiple ISOs on a usb key and be able to boot any of them?
[20:17] <Brydenn> x-fi fatality wasnt a cheap sound card lol
[20:17] <ikonia> Constrabus: no
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> mebus: that'll be why you get issues
[20:17] <jonaskoelker> (i.e., persist means "keep running")
[20:17] <drkn00ck3rz> If I install updates on Ubuntu, will it result into a system fluctuations likely the windows updates ?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Brydenn: depends how much money you have
[20:17] <Brydenn> ActionParsnip, well i'm not bill gates. 100+ on a sound card for me is spendy
[20:17] <mebus> ActionParsnip: yup and that's why I stay with old releases on machines I only sometimes use.
[20:17] <jonaskoelker> bmk789: hmm... I dunno, but I'd look into the chain-loading capabilities of grub
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Brydenn: its only 85GBP
[20:18] <Constrabus> ikonia Not as a choise to install with, just compiled into the kernel. Im using ubuntu liveCD's terminal to install gentoo
[20:18] <Brydenn> well i'm American :)
[20:18] <badawi> j0nr: what if you do ctrl+alt+f1, log in then -> startx -- :1
[20:18] <ikonia> Constrabus: no
[20:18] <mebus> but I should probably use another distro for this like debian or so.
[20:18] <Constrabus> ikonia k Thank you
[20:18] <bmk789> jonaskoelker: ok thanks
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> mebus: try a few distros, there is more than debian, try mandrive / suse
[20:19] <mebus> I want to try the new 11.1 suse on my thinkpad.
[20:19] <j0nr> badawi: ill give it a go
[20:19] <histo> Does dd copy blank blocks? I want to backup my thumbdrive but don't care about hte blank blocks.
[20:19] <KaiForce> Slade605, ActionParsnip,cousteau thanks for the assist.
[20:20] <zsquareplusc> histo: yes, dd just takes them all. either gzip the result or use partimage or similar software
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> KaiForce: np man
[20:20] <histo> zsquareplusc, what about the sync option?
[20:20] <histo> zsquareplusc, of dd
[20:20] <mohbana__> how do i control how much history is saved in the command line?
[20:21] <drkn00ck3rz> Does installing Ubuntu update, cause system fluctuations like Windows Updates ?
[20:22] <vladtsepesh1984> having this error while using synce....http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/83126/ anyone help me????
[20:22] <dinar> hu
[20:22] <dinar> hi
[20:22] <lorgam> Hello
[20:22] <j0nr> badawi: hmmm errors
[20:22] <dinar> there is vmwre plate in add/remove applications
[20:22] <zsquareplusc> histo: never used that, but at first glance it does not look like it would really help for filesystems
[20:22] <dinar> player
[20:22] <j0nr> badawi: if i go startx -- :1 then it says fatal error
[20:22] <dinar> vmware player
[20:22] <ostro> drkn00ck3rz it might, it's better to let others update first
[20:23] <histo> zsquareplusc, nvm the empty space didn't take any time to copy since its just writing 0's
[20:23] <lorgam> What is the minimal size of hard disk I have to reserve to Ubuntu please ?
[20:23] <dinar> but in synaptic are only 2 files
[20:23] <fosco_> lorgam: minimal or usable?
[20:23] <desi> test
[20:23] <dinar> vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.22-14 packet is not vmware player?
[20:23] <Gnea> !partition | lorgam
[20:23] <lorgam> fosco_ > usable
[20:23] <mohbana__> how do i control how much history is saved in the command line?
[20:23] <fosco_> lorgam: about 10gb
[20:24] <lorgam> fosco_ : and minimal ?
[20:24] <fosco_> 4.something
[20:24] <lorgam> ok
[20:24] <badawi> j0nr: maybe it's because it's already logged in, see ctrl+alt+f8 f9 f10 ...
[20:24] <dinar> it can be installed from add/remove app. but not from synaptic?
[20:24] <lorgam> I'll take 5
[20:24] <drkn00ck3rz> Ostro: I mean I am getting update prompt on my ubuntu desktop. My query is: By updating the system, will the system behave unexpectedly ?
[20:24] <remoteCTRL> can i somehow synchronize folders?
[20:24] <Gnea> lorgam: check that URL, it's got some general advice
[20:24] <lorgam> oky
[20:24] <lorgam> thanks
[20:24] <hackwins> someone can help me with my eeebuntu?
[20:25] <hackwins> sound problems in my asus eee
[20:25] <feltham83> hi ppl
[20:25] <Gnea> hackwins: #ubuntu-eeepc
[20:25] <hackwins> yea gnea
[20:26] <feltham83> i'm new to ubuntu and it's fantastic
[20:26] <hackwins> Gnea: the best info never received thanks
[20:26] <Gnea> hackwins: go there, they can help you
[20:26] <Gnea> hackwins: well, hopefully they'll appreciate your attitude better than we won't here.
[20:26] <mohbana__> how do i control how much history is saved in the command line?
[20:26] <j0nr> badawi: when i go to ctrl alt f9 it flicks me into that users logged in session... what is that function?
[20:27] <j0nr> badawi: also, it seems to be working in there at the mo
[20:27] <j0nr> ??
[20:27] <Scix> _ruben gave me this script (http://paste.ubuntu.com/82978/) earlier to day, but i'm only getting "command not found" error. I used this guide to setup debmirror: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[20:28] <whileimhere> Hi.
[20:28] <Scix> #debian tipsed me about a set -xv command i could add to the top of the script to se which command who failed, but i'm getting the same :(
[20:29] <whileimhere> I just upgraded via a fresh cd install to 8.10 and when I try to do the usual synaptic updates it just sits there and never downloads the packages.
[20:29] <danopia> hi
[20:29] <Gnea> Scix: how are you trying to run the script?
[20:29] <danopia> any known issues when working with long (multiline) bash prompts?
[20:29] <Venom> does anyone know why after installing 8.10 all usb devices stops working after 5-10mins?
[20:29] <badawi> j0nr: for me when gnome miss behaves like that, it's when there are more than on login for the same user to gnome, like vnc and freenx, but in u're case i don't know what's going on
[20:30] <zigovr3> hi all, after resuming from sleep, I sometimes  have klogd that eat 100% of the CPU (but there are no kernel messages or anything is being logged in /var/log), any idea what is the problem ?
[20:30] <badawi> j0nr: ... than on* login ...
[20:30] <zigovr3> restarting klogd fixes it but it's pretty strange
[20:30] <badawi> j0nr: ... than one* login ...
[20:30] <badawi> :/
[20:30] <Gnea> danopia: deep directories tend to push the limits of the terminal, causing corruption
[20:30] <j0nr> badawi: ok... but what does cntl alt f9 do? i mean it takes me to that logged in session? but why
[20:30] <Scix> Gnea: /usr/local/bin/mirrorbuid.sh
[20:30] <danopia> Gnea, no, I mean where I'm in ~/
[20:30] <Scix> Gnea:* sudo /usr/local/bin/mirrorbuid.sh
[20:30] <SJr|Work> http://pastebin.com/m5cbc211d
[20:30] <Gnea> Scix: did you chmod 755 to it?
[20:31] <SJr|Work> Anyone have any idea why I can't execute that script, in the link directly?
[20:31] <danopia> Gnea, but I type a command that is longer than hte window, so it goes OVER the existing line
[20:31] <jonaskoelker> how/where can I configure how gnome runs pulseaudio?
[20:31] <Gnea> danopia: yeah, that's corruption.
[20:31] <danopia> Gnea, so how would i be able to use long commands?
[20:31] <danopia> i can USE htem but editing them is hard
[20:31] <Gnea> danopia: change your prompt
[20:32] <mohbana__> how do i control how much history is saved in the command line?
[20:32] <oro> Hi, all.
[20:32] <steven1> hi
[20:32] <Pici> danopia: You can put a backslash and press enter without disrupting the command.
[20:32] <Scix> Gnea: Hehe, PEBCAK from me x)
[20:32] <oro> test.....中文
[20:32] <DEViUS> ok am here offering ma help, you just ask, and ill try and help :)
[20:32] <Gnea> mohbana__: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/08/15-examples-to-master-linux-command-line-history/
[20:33] <Gnea> Scix: cheers "_
[20:33] <Gnea> :)
[20:33] <badawi> oro: looks like chinese characters
[20:33] <corinth> How do I disable tooltips on the window list applet on the panel?
[20:33] <DEViUS> anything hot on the row
[20:33] <badawi> j0nr: it's when you switch users it gives f9
[20:33] <oro> Ya, it's chinese.
[20:33]  * Gnea points DEViUS to corinth 
[20:34] <D3RGPS31> is there a way to install mac drivers >.>
[20:34] <angeleyes> i want to add an account to empathy but it tell me to install a backend
[20:34] <Gnea> D3RGPS31: on a mac? sure.
[20:34] <DEViUS> corinth: just disable libnotify, thats what i did, but it disables lots of notifications
[20:34] <D3RGPS31> Gnea: on ubuntu
[20:34] <oro> I'm Taiwanes and I'm a new gay of IRC
[20:35] <corinth> DEViUS: Wow, I feel silly. I forgot to google first, lol. I actually found a way to take care of just that one. Thanks, though. :-)
[20:35] <angeleyes> i want to add an account to empathy but it tell me to install a backend
[20:35] <DEViUS> corinth: lol np
[20:35] <Gnea> D3RGPS31: OSX drivers are not compatible with Ubuntu.
[20:35] <DEViUS> corinth: anyways am here :)
[20:35] <D3RGPS31> Gnea: D:
[20:35] <D3RGPS31> thanks though
[20:36] <baba_b00ie> how do i probe my video card so i know what firmware it is ?
[20:37] <WinterWeaver> lspci I think is the command
[20:37] <baba_b00ie> k thanks..
[20:37] <D3RGPS31> Anyone know how to get absolute positioning for an adesso cybertablet?
[20:37] <DEViUS> baba_b00ie: i cant rememba the cpecific command for the graphics card but lspci woouud do the job as well
[20:38] <baba_b00ie> ty yeah i'm looking at manpages to see
[20:39] <DEViUS> baba_b00ie: this is better                              lspci | grep VGA
[20:39] <baba_b00ie> DEViUS, dude like ty bunchs
[20:40] <DEViUS> baba_b00ie: ???
[20:40] <baba_b00ie> DEViUS, just saying thanks for the exact command.. i was just hitting up the manpages for lspci
[20:40] <DEViUS> baba_b00ie: oh lol np
[20:40] <danopia> Gnea, also if I use hte scrollback, sometimes 4-cahractor prefixes from previous commands add htemselves on the prompt for that command
[20:40] <danopia> i.e. if i hit up and get "sudo vim asdf", sometimes when I hold backspace it only goes up to "sudo" then stops,a nd if I type a command after the first "stuck" part, the command will still work
[20:42] <Gnea> danopia: i learned long ago that it's better to just keep it simple: \u@\h:\w\$
[20:42] <danopia> Gnea, i know
[20:42] <danopia> i'm in !/
[20:42] <danopia> ~/*
[20:42] <DEViUS> "a good question is half knowledge"
[20:42] <danopia> [danopia@danopia ~]$ h
[20:42] <Gnea> [\u@\h:\w\$]  <-- nice
[20:43] <Gnea> oops, [\u@\h:\w\]$
[20:43] <danopia> Gnea,  LONG LONGanopia ~]$ LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG
[20:43] <danopia> what I got past the edge it wraps to the same line
[20:43] <Gnea> danopia: that's crazy, what do you get from this command:  echo $PS1
[20:43] <Pici> danopia: What terminal are you using?
[20:44] <danopia> pici xfce's terminal w/ bash afaik
[20:44] <danopia> Gnea, it has color codes, would that be it?
[20:44] <OmegaNine> Im on a Dell 1505, and when I use the media keys to turn up and down the volume, for some reason its turning the "Recording Volume" up and down, not the output volume down.  The keys looks set right in Gnome Keyboard Short cuts, but...its not.  Anyone know of a fix this for?
[20:44] <OmegaNine> *a fix for this
[20:44] <danopia> my prompt is \[\e]0;\w\a\]\[\e[32m\][\[\e[36m\]\u\[\e[33m\]@\[\e[34m\]\h \[\e[33m\]\w\[\e[32m\]]\[\e[1;0m\]$\e[0m
[20:44] <Gnea> danopia: if they aren't terminated correctly, probably
[20:44] <DEViUS> danopia: help -> about
[20:44] <danopia> would it be the colors? :P
[20:44] <rb2k> t
[20:44] <danopia> it jsut says temrinal... it's xfce's terminal
[20:45] <lvlefisto1> what is the command to know what package installed libpthread?
[20:45] <danopia> afaik my shell is bash
[20:45] <Nattgew> OmegaNine, try adding the volume applet to the panel and setting it to control the volume you want
[20:45] <danopia> zsh does not wrap incorrectly, but PS1 won't take any args either such as user/host
[20:46] <cousteau> does anybody know about VHDL?
[20:46] <danopia> unles it's different than bash
[20:46] <bluespuke> hi, i'm looking for a dreamweaver-like application for intrepid/gnome. someone knows any?
[20:46] <zleap> bluefish
[20:46] <zleap> nvu
[20:46] <zleap> text editor
[20:46] <rjune> nvu is a good HTML editor
[20:46] <rjune> quanta is nice too
[20:46] <danopia> i use geany because i use PHP too
[20:46] <rjune> though quanta is a QT/KDE application
[20:47] <zleap> i would have suggested vi, but would risk gtting flamed by emacs users
[20:47] <rjune> emacs?
[20:47] <DEViUS> lvlefisto1: be more specific, i dont get what you mean
[20:47] <OmegaNine> Nattgew, I can control the sound just fine threw the software volume applet, but for some reason when I use the vol up/down eyes on the front panel its changing the recording volume
[20:47] <rjune> isn't that the OS masquerading as  a text editor?
[20:47] <zleap> yeah
[20:47] <angeleyes> hi all can some one pls tell me how i can invite some one to view my webcam wit kopete
[20:47] <scientes> is qos on by default in ubuntu?
[20:47] <lvlefisto1> i mean, libpthread.so is making pidgin crashh all the time, i wan't to know which package has it so i can install a newer version
[20:47] <rjune> scientes, qos == quality of service yes?
[20:47] <ikonia> scientes: it's a set of iptables modules
[20:47] <DEViUS> bluespuke: are you a begginner or advanced user to "web programing"
[20:48] <angeleyes> hi all can some one pls tell me how i can invite some one to view my webcam wit kopete
[20:48] <DEViUS> angeleyes: does your webcam work 1st of all
[20:48] <DEViUS> angeleyes: did you test its functionality
[20:48] <psyjoniz> rather vanilla install (8.10) on a bootable USB stick - left and down arrow keys do not repeat.  up and right do along with every other key i have tested.  help please?
[20:48] <Nattgew> OmegaNine, how about going to your sound preferences and changing the default mixer track?
[20:48] <angeleyes> yes
[20:48] <jj_galvez> what user permissions do I need to add file to /var/www for apache to serve them?
[20:48] <rjune> ikonia, a set of iptables modules? when did that change? last I used it, it was based on tc, which did the actual work
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> psyjoniz: make sure your keyboard is the correct setting
[20:49] <RomD> is it possible to remap keyboard keys on the fly? the german keyboard has Y and Z switched, so it would be nice If I could switch them when pressing CTRL (for undo)
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | psyjoniz
[20:49] <ikonia> rjune: bad choice of words, it's controlled via the iptables modules in terms of direction, then as you say tc will do the actual shaping
[20:49] <psyjoniz> ActionParsnip : i just finished doing that before coming here and it didn't seem to help :/
[20:50] <DEViUS> angeleyes: plz direct your reply to me, now, in the conversation dialog box u will c the option
[20:50] <psyjoniz> the keys do what they are supposed to they just don't repeat
[20:50] <rjune> tc can filter as well, but normally, iptables is used to mark the packets as well as mangle them(DSCP, etc)
[20:50] <scientes> ikonia, so do i have to specify it in iptables or can it just automatically trush qos flags?
[20:50] <cs-steffan> hi i have already downloaded and installed ubuntu. but i ask for something. how to install msn messenger
[20:50] <rjune> scientes, no, it's not enabled by default.
[20:50] <ikonia> rjune: much better explination
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> psyjoniz: does it work ok in bios (tests the keyboard isnt faulty)
[20:50] <RomD> cs-steffan,  use pidgin
[20:50] <rjune> ikonia, is what I do.
[20:50] <RomD> it can handle msn accounts
[20:50] <cs-steffan> ok thanks
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> psyjoniz: you could update to make sure its not an old version of some package breaking stuff
[20:50] <rjune> cs-steffan, or kopete if you're using kubuntu
[20:50] <psyjoniz> ActionParsnip : i can try in bios but as this is a usb stick i use it on different machines and it acts the same everywhere
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> psyjoniz: updaetd kernel may help
[20:51] <DEViUS> angeleyes: in the conversation window there is a frop down menu named "CHAT" u will c the webcam options
[20:51] <danopia> zleap, vim is awesume
[20:51] <OmegaNine> Nattgew, Pff, that totally worked, thanks so much
[20:51] <danopia> don't let emacs lovers kill youforsaying it
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> psyjoniz: hmm, id just check just so you know the keyboard likes your pc
[20:51] <krish> can anyone tell me how can I earn good income from my blogs?
[20:51] <zleap> lol
[20:51] <DEViUS> angeleyes: in the conversation window there is a Drop down menu named "CHAT" u will c the webcam options (invite and request)
[20:52] <rjune> krish, step one blog. step two: ??????. step three: profit!
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> !ot | krish
[20:52] <DEViUS> krish: this isnt an affiliates blablabla
[20:52] <NotADJ> /m/win 21
[20:52] <NotADJ> Oops
[20:52] <cs-steffan> rjune i have ubuntu-8.10
[20:52] <cs-steffan> so i use pidgin
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> cs-steffan: you can also use amsn
[20:53] <krish> hey is anyone interested in contributing ubuntu related articles to my wiki?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> cs-steffan: if you only use msn, pidgin supports a wide r\ange of protocols
[20:53] <mebus> which wiki ?
[20:53] <rjune> no.
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> krish: its offtopic here
[20:54] <cs-steffan> yes i just use msn
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> cs-steffan: id hit up amsn: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amsn
[20:54] <DEViUS> cs-steffan: my advice emesene rocks
[20:54] <rjune> I believe pidgen will integrate with evolution
[20:54] <j0nr> badawi: thanks for your help... i am unsure whats going on... but new user accounts don't work.
[20:55] <DEViUS> cs-steffan: try both aMsn and emesene and see what suits you :D
[20:55] <DEViUS> cs-steffan: they are both excellant
[20:55] <digitalvaldosta> I was wondering if anyone knew how to add album art to an mp3 file? I have downloaded some that when played in a program or device that uses them it show it. However some songs don't have it. Particularly my psp is where I would like to have it. Rhthymbox of course downloads them but doesn't make it as part of the file.
[20:56] <GeneralFailure9> split window 1: window1
[20:56] <anfy> can anyone identify the processors in this photo? http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/646/1421g413b3n03m83p18bg88jm5.jpg
[20:56] <Nattgew> digitalvaldosta try using easytag
[20:56] <dandaman862> digitalvaldosta use easy tag....Free editing program
[20:56] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: use stamp under wine, its an excallant ID3 Tag editor, unless someoone here knows about an OSS-Application (alternative)
[20:56] <carandraug> digitalvaldosta: I'm not sure but I think you can do it easyTAG
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> digitalvaldosta: i dont think mp3 supports that, you can do it with something like amarok, but that uses a seperate store for the art, rather than the actual mp3 itself
[20:57] <CapaH> cat file.txt | awk '{print $1}'   <--- Only prints the VERY first line of the file. Only having this problem on my linux machine, my openbsd machine works correctly. ideas anyone?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> digitalvaldosta: with memory based mp3 players and the like, you'd have to check how the art is stored and pander to its needs
[20:57] <carandraug> DEViUS: easyTAG is a great alternative
[20:57] <dandaman862> I have done it with Easy tag, works really good, use it with ampache.
[20:57] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: yes yes right use easytag thanks for that
[20:58] <rjune> anfy, no, the picture is too bad
[20:58] <anfy> rjune: mk
[20:58] <CapaH> I want it to return X lines, X being the # of lines in file.txt
[20:58] <anfy> rjune: I know they are xeons, just not sure what vintage
[20:58] <ValentineXX> why skype team do not provide skype 3 for ubuntu?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> CapaH: are they at the top or bottom of the file?
[20:58] <rjune> anfy, is a fine picture, but not enough resolution to really id them
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: ask them
[20:59] <anfy> rjune: it's off of craigslist, cant get any higher res
[20:59] <DEViUS> ActionParsnip: lol
[20:59] <CapaH> ActionParsnip, Every line of the file :)
[20:59] <ValentineXX> ActionParsnip: they have irc channel?
[20:59] <digitalvaldosta> Devius, is easytag in the repos?
[20:59] <psyjoniz> ActionParsnip : works in bios.  and interestingly, it works on the gnome login screen - but once i get in, nada.
[20:59] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: yes it is there
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: dunno, you could email them and ask
[20:59] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: yes it is there                             sudo apt-get install easytag
[20:59] <digitalvaldosta> ok I will try it out real quick and let y'all know what success I have.
[21:00] <digitalvaldosta> Thanks everyone
[21:00] <omeneek> Hi, does anyone know how to change default paths from places menu?
[21:00] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: np
[21:00] <DEViUS> omeneek: default paths for what plz be more specific
[21:01] <heret1c> Does anyone use gmobilemedia?
[21:01] <omeneek> DEViUS: Documents, Music etc - those from places menu
[21:01] <DEViUS> omeneek: do you want to add a place or change their location
[21:01] <fosco_> omeneek: you can use ubuntu-tweak to change that
[21:02] <mastershihochief> I am having an apache2 problem. I just dropped files in /var/www to use for an online game. The moment i play the web base game and it goes to use the image pack, the system slows down to a crawl and wont respond. I can go through localhost and browse all the files no problem, and the system doesnt hang while apache service is running, but whenever i go to the game page, the system hangs and lag really badly
[21:02] <mastershihochief> http://textsnip.com/b2474f <<< my ps aux
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> CapaH: well if you wanna see a nmber of lines from a file would they be at the start or end or ni the middle?
[21:02] <malaka> hello
[21:02] <omeneek> DEViUS: change location, addin is easy
[21:02] <mastershihochief> both my cpus are at 100% when my problem occurs, but the processes doesnt show that much cpu usage
[21:03] <DEViUS> omeneek: emm am not sure, sry
[21:03] <DEViUS> omeneek: let me search around
[21:04] <kristian1> can anyone mention a good online port scanner?
[21:04] <OsamaK> !bot
[21:04] <LjL> kristian1: that doesn't sound like an Ubuntu related question to me
[21:04] <fosco_> kristian1: i use nmap from command line
[21:05] <rjune> kristian1, there are nmap based web interfaces
[21:05] <heret1c> kristian1: wireshark?
[21:05] <kristian1> LjL : yeah, sorry about that.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> kristian1: nmap
[21:05] <LjL> kristian1: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <DEViUS> heret1c: wireshark isnt a port scanner
[21:05] <LjL> (did you all miss the "online" part?)
[21:05] <kristian1> LjL : will do.
[21:06] <kristian1> thanks everyone else, will try nmap and wireshark\
[21:06] <rjune> LjL, nope, hence the reason I ponted him to a web based nmap
[21:06] <DEViUS> kristian1: wireshark isnt a port scanner
[21:06] <maco> kristian1: wireshark is like a GUI to tcpdump
[21:06] <heret1c> DEViUS: ah. thought I saw that function in it.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> !info wireshark
[21:06] <LjL> rjune: right, you were the only one though...
[21:07] <digitalvaldosta> Devius, easytag was basically what I was asking for. But is there one that is more automatic like Rhythmbox is?
[21:07] <rjune> LjL, it helps to read the question. :-)
[21:07] <DEViUS> kristian1: i doubt that
[21:07] <DEViUS> kristian1: sry wrong person
[21:08] <lesshaste> is there a graphical traceroute app?
[21:08] <LjL> lesshaste: yeah, xtraceroute is one
[21:08] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: i doubt
[21:08] <lesshaste> LjL,
[21:08] <lesshaste> thanks
[21:08] <LjL> lesshaste: it also depends what you mean by "graphical" (*geo*graphical or not)
[21:08] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: unless you go foe non-oss app's and am as well (unsure)
[21:08] <psyjoniz> Does anyone know why left and down arrows would not repeat when held down?  up and right work fine.  left and down do what they are supposed to they just don't repeat.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: why would you need it, its just gonna put the output in a box, like a terminal
[21:09] <lesshaste> LjL, geographical but xtraceroute doesn't seem to be htere
[21:09] <LjL> lesshaste: ah by the way, the package name for xtraceroute is xt
[21:09] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, a pic would be nice
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: pic of what?
[21:09] <lesshaste> LjL, ah thanks
[21:09] <LjL> ActionParsnip: install xt and see
[21:09] <digitalvaldosta> :S well guess i will look for the creator of the app 'easytag' and suggest it to them. thanks again. (I only do open source. Proprietary is now the coaster for my softdrink)
[21:09] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, of the hops taken
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> LjL: installing now
[21:10] <DEViUS> digitalvaldosta: lol
[21:10] <mastershihochief> lol
[21:11]  * digitalvaldosta is now leaving.
[21:11] <LjL> lesshaste: i knew of another one with a possibly cuter interface (and perhaps more update geolocation data), but i honestly can't remember what it was - not something in the repos anyway
[21:11] <DEViUS> lesshaste: i would say use                   http://visualiptrace.visualware.com/                    online and geo........
[21:11] <lesshaste> LjL, I am trying xt now.. it doesn't seem to work yet but we shall see
[21:12] <LjL> lesshaste, the database it uses is old, try a few addresses
[21:12] <ph0rensic_> Hi All
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> LjL: this is god slow
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> LjL: but gui stuf always is
[21:16] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[21:18] <sluimers> Hi, I just bought a VB8001 mini-itx motherboard and now when I try to get to the login screen the computer crashes, what could cause that?
[21:18] <Slade605> Hey guys, I am having some issue file sharing a folder on a HD that is NTFS, it's setup in /media/Media/music, and I did sudo chmod 777 music while in that directory, no errors, but it won't let me share it, any suggestions?
[21:18] <ph0rensic> sluimers: What do you mean it crashes? is it just not going to an x screen??
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: boot to failsafe and check dmesg
[21:18] <Ace2016_> well my internet connection to the US has been slow
[21:19] <DEViUS> looool everyone back on
[21:19] <ph0rensic> Slade605: You ar tryin to share it over the network or what?
[21:19] <Ace2016_> my god that was a huge net split, my irc app is freezing as i type, the text is scrolling so fast, sure are a lot of users here
[21:19] <LjL-Simmons> lesshaste: (resending, not sure you got it due to the netsplit) lesshaste: however, it seems to use a separate script for determining an address's location (/usr/share/xtraceroute/xtraceroute-resolve-location.sh), so you might tweak that script to use other GeoIP services
[21:19] <sluimers> ph0rensic, yes and I also cannot go to any other terminal prompt
[21:20] <lesshaste> LjL-Simmons, that is very interesting.. so I need to find a good geoip service
[21:20] <kushalsejwal> hello everybody, I am using hardy, dont want to upgrade to intrepid but want the lastest gnome 2.24. How can I do so?
[21:20] <Slade605> ph0rensic:  yeah, I want to use it for my laptop
[21:20] <LjL-Simmons> ActionParsnip: it shouldn't be especially slow, not more than "traceroute" (which is what it uses as a backend, anyway). it will easily be slower than "tracepath" though
[21:20] <DEViUS> kushalsejwal: just upgrade gnome
[21:20] <kushalsejwal>  DEViUS: How?
[21:20] <LjL-Simmons> lesshaste: there are a couple geoip libraries (apt-cache search geoip will give you the ones that are actually called geoip ;) in the repos
[21:21] <emilien> need help - booted up live cd got to login screen and it asking or password
[21:21] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, I can dmesg in a terminal prompt
[21:22] <ph0rensic> sluimers: Have you checked your config files to make sure it is allowing the access?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: then pipe it into less an have a read
[21:23] <Gnea> I'm following some directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1850156  and when I `sudo checkinstall make install`, it doesn't work and tries to think that the default install path is /usr/local, but there's no place to set that (the ./configure script doesn't accept the --prefix argument), has anyone else done this or know if the ubuntu-method of making .deb files has changed in the past couple of years?
[21:23] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, I'm not that linux savvy, what should I look for?
[21:23] <jannott> Sweet netsplit :)
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: just any sort of errors or warning
[21:24] <sluimers> ph0rensic, which config files should I look into?
[21:24] <BwaddArr> are 3 floodbots really necessary? lol
[21:24] <ph0rensic> Slade605: Did you check the config files?
[21:24] <ph0rensic> sluimers: sorry i wrote that to the wrong person
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: you could try booting to recovery and repairing xorg.conf to see if its better some
[21:25] <emilien> need help - booted up live cd got to login screen and it asking for password but iv not even installed yet ... ALT F1 get " loading , please wait"
[21:25] <ph0rensic> ActionParsnip: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe???
[21:25] <Gnea> BwaddArr: what's more necessary: 3 flood bots or asking 1000 people to just up and leave? :)
[21:25] <kristian1> installed ubuntu yesterday. installed it to one hd(80gb), but i cant find the other hd (200gb) via ubuntu. what shall i do?
[21:25] <Gnea> emilien: what did you try putting in for the password?
[21:26] <BwaddArr> Gnea, lol I guess so :)
[21:26] <emilien> Gnea: root - toor ; guest
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> ph0rensic: that'll do it. theres an option in the recovery mode for that but if he's got a terminal up then yeah that'll do it
[21:26] <scotlfs> I have an interesting problem....I created a USB startup disk, but I don't like it and I want to start over, however I have lost access to the portion that was previously assigned...how do I get access back so I can create a new usb startup disk ?
[21:26] <Gnea> emilien: what about ubuntu, <none>?
[21:27]  * sluimers boots in recovery
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !usb | scotlfs
[21:27] <emilien> Gnea: never tried that will do
[21:27] <scotlfs> actionparsnip, does that address my problem, I didn't think it did
[21:27] <zap> Hello people! How do I install the package openoffice.org-l10n-ru via the GUI installer?
[21:28] <slestak> one user on one of my 3-4 intrepid workstations is having focus problems with gnome
[21:28] <slestak> i have already disabled compiz for the user and deleted ~/.compiz
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> scotlfs: do you want to create a bootable usb stick?
[21:29] <slestak> and rebooted.  i can only get focus by selecting titlebar, clicking anywhere else on window will not gain focus
[21:29] <Gnea> I'm following some directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1850156  and when I `sudo checkinstall make install`, it doesn't work and tries to think that the default install path is /usr/local, but there's no place to set that (the ./configure script doesn't accept the --prefix argument), has anyone else done this or know if the ubuntu-method of making .deb files has changed in the past couple of years?
[21:29] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, I've rebooted in recovery mode
[21:29] <scotlfs> actionparsnip: I created one already, problem is I don't like it, and I want to start over...I can't because the portion of the usb drive I used is not inaccessible
[21:29] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, chosen fix the x server
[21:29] <scotlfs> s/not/now
[21:29] <zap> is it possible to see somehow the hidden packages in the GUI installer? There are lots of packages not seen
[21:30] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, and I am now what I think is supposed to be the login screen
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> scotlfs: then you can run sudo fdisk -l and format the partition so it it blank, is that what you mean?
[21:30] <rytmenpinnen> Hey, I have the LBP-810 printer, I've searched the net but couldn't find much am I out of luck so speak? :/
[21:30] <me1> reconnect
[21:30] <DEViUS> who cares
[21:30] <mebus> jep should keep talking about ubuntu
[21:30] <mebus> there we go
[21:30] <Ace2016_> this is a parallel #ubuntu where the rules don't apply
[21:30] <DEViUS> tada
[21:30] <me1> HA! told ya so
[21:30] <Ace2016_> damn, now they do
[21:30] <DEViUS> now this is the real ubuntu
[21:31] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, but all I see is vertical lines in all the colours of the rainbow
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: you'll need to reboot once you have fixed xorg
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[21:31] <Jophish> welcome back one and all
[21:31] <scotlfs> actionparsnip...Ah I didn't realize it was repartitioned....it doesn't quite display that fact in the properties of the device in nautilus
[21:31] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, okay
[21:31] <Ace2016_> wait how did LjL know to connect to the calvino server and get
[21:31] <DEViUS> haha, ubuntu problems (time to solve yaa)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> scotlfs: yeah that'll show you the deal
[21:31] <me1> okay, split over, time for me to split :D
[21:31] <DEViUS> god
[21:31] <Ace2016_> Again Again! one more time!
[21:31] <mebus> :-P cya
[21:31] <DEViUS> lool
[21:31] <mastershihochief> ya
[21:31] <mastershihochief> XD
[21:32] <DEViUS> ya CYA LATER World
[21:32] <DEViUS> gluck with the netsplits:p
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > DEViUS
[21:32] <mebus> cya later unknown person
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> scotlfs: you on the right track now?
[21:32] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, rebooting in recovery mode again
[21:32] <Ace2016_> LjL-Simmons: does that mean that the Simmons server is having issues too?
[21:32] <DEViUS> Jack_Sparrow: k k k lol
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !lol > DEViUS
[21:33] <DEViUS> Jack_Sparrow: -_- ok
[21:33] <harry_> kubuntu 8.10 my box is snail mode.  How can I speed up my high speed internet??
[21:33] <phix> hey, I can't seem to get my ATI HD sound card working, it is integrated to my graphics card for use in a DVI->HDMI convertor
[21:33] <phix> any ideas? what module does it use?
[21:33] <MTecknology> I still can;t find a drupal 5 ubuntu theme
[21:33] <MTecknology> not one that actually works right
[21:33] <harry_> is there a spyware scanner or something out there?
[21:33] <phix> hi
[21:33] <phix> hi
[21:33] <phix> hi
[21:33] <FloodBot1> phix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <FloodBot3> phix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> harry_: are you fully updated?
[21:34] <Ace2016_> hey we could have flooded, when we had our own parallel #ubuntu
[21:34] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, my screen simply says "no signal detected" and led of the monitor turns orange
[21:34] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, where the login screen is supposed to be that is
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: hmm, strange. you could set some very low resolution / refresh settings in xorg.conf manually, just to get a display
[21:35] <mikeypizano> how do i enable shmconfig on 8.10?
[21:36] <uself> hi everyone
[21:36] <|{urse> hi there
[21:36] <mikeypizano> hello
[21:36] <archman> hi
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> mikeypizano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> mikeypizano: http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/enable-shmconfig-for-synaptics-touchpad-on-ubuntu-intrepid-ibex-810/
[21:37]  * Gnea figures it out on his own.
[21:37] <mikeypizano> my xorg config doesnt have anything for mouse
[21:38] <ph0rensic> Anyone know if there is a channel for the asus aspire one? my friend is having some issues in ubuntu with the wireless card ??
[21:38] <mikeypizano> ActionParsnip, do u know why my brightness setting doesnt hold after sleep?
[21:38] <slestak> one user on one of my 3-4 intrepid workstations is having focus problems with gnome
[21:38] <lexvegas> I have an odd problem. My laptop will connect to a network, get an IP address, a DNS address, all the information to connect to a network, the notification area says that i am connected, but i have to ab abnormally close (within 10 feet) to connect to the internet.
[21:39] <lexvegas> any ideas?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> mikeypizano: ive not used it. its a PITA
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip I pastebined a generic vesa mode xorg change...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/83158/
[21:39] <lexvegas> *be abnormally close
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip I know you didnt have a prob.. just as a ref
[21:39] <cockneysean> Hi, can anyone help me with getting ops on brand new ircd install?
[21:39] <n8tuser> lexvegas-> you mean you go beyond 10 feet and you can not detect the signal of your AP? is this bluetooth?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: ty man, sluimers grab this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83158/
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[21:40] <lexvegas> no, wifi
[21:40] <n8tuser> lexvegas-> bluetooth is also wireless :P
[21:40] <cockneysean> Hi, can anyone help me with getting ops status on brand new ircd install?
[21:40] <lexvegas> i was able to connect perfectly when i was running windows, but now i can't connect properly
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: try a different driver
[21:40] <lexvegas> how do you do that?
[21:41] <Gnea> cockneysean: you'll need to read the documentation that came with your ircd
[21:41] <lexvegas> is there a tutorial that you know of?
[21:41] <cockneysean> thats not what i asked is it?
[21:41] <n8tuser> lexvegas-> are you using a usb dongle fo ryou wifi?
[21:41] <n8tuser> lexvegas-> are you using a usb dongle for your wifi?
[21:41] <lexvegas> no, internal card
[21:41] <Gnea> cockneysean: how is it ubuntu-related?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: run lspci or lsusb depending on how it connects and websearch how to configure it
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: are you fully updated?
[21:41] <lexvegas> ok
[21:41] <Unknown0BC> Hello, how do I take asking of password away when ubuntu comes out of suspend ?
[21:41] <cockneysean> because its ubuntu ircd?
[21:41] <Unknown0BC> No I mean out of hibernate.
[21:41] <lexvegas> yes, and thanks
[21:41] <n8tuser> lexvegas-> which chip does your wifi have?
[21:41] <lexvegas> ill just google for a tutorial
[21:42] <Gnea> cockneysean: how would I know that? which ircd did you install, exactly?
[21:42] <cockneysean> the one from synaptic package manager
[21:42] <harry_> there is no update button on my desktop
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !info ircd
[21:42] <lexvegas> RTL8187b
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: what is the lspci output line for the device?
[21:42] <harry_> i founf it
[21:42] <Gnea> !ask | cockneysean
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !find ircd
[21:43] <occy> are there any disk check tools, that come with the Ubuntu disk (live CD) that allow you to check your windows drive to make sure that nothing is wrong with it?  I want to dualboot, but... I think there is something wrong with my windows setup.
[21:43] <occy> I can boot the live CD just fine
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> cockneysean Did you add any repos in order to be able to apt-get ircd?
[21:43] <mastershihochief> occy: did u try windows recovery disk?
[21:43] <cockneysean> The question is, once I have installed ircd on my ubuntu 8.04 setup, it is running fine, but I am not an op on my own server. If someone could tell me what I need to configure to be op/admin on my server that would be great. tia
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> cockneysean And... Did you add any repos in order to be able to apt-get ircd?
[21:44] <kristian1> can someone please tell me the #ubuntu channel for discussion on other things than ubuntu again?
[21:44] <cockneysean> no
[21:44] <occy> mastershihochief: I tried to start up the Windows install cd, to re-install windows and it errors out while trying to load it.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: the RTL8187b driver in the kernel is expremental, i dont know why the hell they added the driver to the kernel when its dont works and officially unfinished. thats from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965946
[21:44] <Unknown0BC> Can one take the asking of password away when coming out of suspend ?
[21:44] <LjL-Calvino> kristian1: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:44] <Unknown0BC> out of hibernate*
[21:44] <spud1> kristian1: it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:44] <mastershihochief> occy: which version of windows?
[21:44] <occy> mastershihochief: XP
[21:44] <lexvegas> thanks
[21:45] <nintendork32> !fr | DANDS
[21:45] <lexvegas> i guess ill just be happy with what i have
[21:45] <occy> mastershihochief: I think it's NTFS
[21:45] <kristian1> LjL-Calvino & spud1 : thanks! :)
[21:45] <Gnea> cockneysean: first of all, you've failed to mention exactly which ircd you installed. second, did it come with a /usr/share/doc/<something>-ircd/  directory? *USUALLY* there is a README or something in there that explains how to administer your ircd.
[21:45] <mastershihochief> occy: did u hit r at the welcome screen, when u put your xp disc in? This will put you into recovery mode and allow you to start command prompt and do chkdsk /r
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6276929
[21:46] <occy> mastershihochief: ahh
[21:46] <lexvegas> thanks
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[21:46] <cockneysean> a support channel telling you to RTFM? wtf
[21:46] <Guest20095> the system is up to date.. only a compiz update... My internet is snail slow... how can I fix it????????
[21:47] <mastershihochief> occy: if you dont hit r before the xp installer starts, it will error out
[21:47] <|{urse> cockney you want us to read it for you?
[21:47] <|{urse> o
[21:47] <|{urse> lol
[21:47] <ope_> hey guys.  im getting a wierd flicker when i play video and compiz is turned on
[21:47] <regeya> lol
[21:47] <rogan> www.blogpirate.org
[21:48] <heret1c> what if there is no fm to read?
[21:48] <ComputerCarl> anyone here using drbd?
[21:48] <regeya> whoa, didn't I see you in #fedora ComputerCarl? :->
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ope_: head to #compiz
[21:48] <ComputerCarl> ive had it w/ fc
[21:48] <Guest20095> I have a new box and the internet is really slow... must be all the porn...  How can I fix it to speed it up???
[21:48] <ComputerCarl> wait, why were u in there too?
[21:48] <|{urse> ope_ hey _ope
[21:49] <|{urse> http://library.gnome.org/users/gstreamer-properties/stable/
[21:49] <heret1c> gmobilemedia being a case in point.
[21:49] <ComputerCarl> guest, tried washing the hd w/ some warm soap?
[21:49] <|{urse> type gstreamer-properties in the term
[21:49] <|{urse> ^^
[21:49] <regeya> ComputerCarl:  yes, because I'd switched my main machine to fc10 bc I've had it w/intrepid
[21:49] <PATX> Did anyone here help make http://paste.ubuntu.com????
[21:49] <monkeyfart> on Ubuntu here also
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> regeya: stick with hardy then, its got 4 years or so in it still
[21:49] <regeya> as I said, computercarl, if you have problems with NetworkManager, at least with fc10 ubuntu-desktop doesn't REQUIRE it
[21:49] <Guest20095> hahaha   washing hands didnt work...  anything I can try with the box???
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ComputerCarl: how much free space do you have?
[21:50] <regeya> ActionParsnip: um...no.  Sorry for the OT rant...it's funny b/c we had crossed paths in two channels, switching from one to the other b/c we've "had it." :->
[21:50] <afallenhope|work> !samba
[21:50] <DasEi> Guest20095:first try a speed test from live to check if it's the box or the net
[21:50] <PATX> Did anyone here help make http://paste.ubuntu.com ????
[21:51] <Guest20095> where
[21:51] <|{urse> PATX why
[21:51] <|{urse> ?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> regeya: well there are many linux distributions, ubuntu isnt for everyone
[21:51] <rjune> I thought ubuntu was linux for humans
[21:51] <kristian1> when i installed ubuntu, i installed it fully to one hdd, but once im in ubuntu i cant find the second hdd. can someone help me with this?
[21:51] <n8tuser> what is this "we've" had it with intrepid?
[21:51] <regeya> (I still use Ubuntu and think Intrepid's fine for some things but I had...erm, needs...and ActionParsnip, fyi, fc10 means "Fedora Core 10" :->)
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[21:51] <PATX> |{urse: I want to see how they made it....
[21:51] <slestak> how can i tell apt to permamnetly remove a package.  i removed evolution and tracker, and apt continues to want to reinstall it
[21:51] <DasEi> PATX: what shall this empty paste be ?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> regeya: i know, it a fork from redhat
[21:52] <DefunctProcess> can anyone suggest a good resource for building custom kernel with drivers built in?
[21:52] <Guest20095> DasEi  where would I go to do a speed test:
[21:52] <rw_> hi, I just installed xfce and thunar won't automount my drives. Any help?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> regeya: i didnt like it myself. im a big fan of gentoo and mandriva
[21:52] <spud1> kristian1: priv msg me if want to chat without the chan noise
[21:52] <|{urse> o yeah it is pretty cool huh PATX
[21:52] <|{urse> no i dont know
[21:52] <DasEi> Guest20095:google is your friend, speedmeter or sth
[21:52] <Guest20095> thx
[21:52] <PATX> DasEi: what do you mean??? i am trying to find out HOW they made... you see i am trying to make one and like ubuntus design
[21:52] <IamGod> hello my children
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > PATX
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> rw_: add lines in /etc/fstab
[21:53] <ComputerCarl> sorry, i was afk... i was asking about drbd, someone asked how much free space... well, fc10 is installed, and soon to be wiped, so lots of free space... 4tb
[21:53] <DasEi> PATX:you want to set up a pastebin - server ?
[21:53] <slestak> how can i tell apt to permamnetly remove a package.  i removed evolution and tracker, and apt continues to want to reinstall it
[21:53] <rw_> ok
[21:53] <mikeypizano> i tried that link, it wont work still
[21:53] <rww> slestak: paste the output you get where apt "wants to reinstall it" to pastebin
[21:53] <hwilde> how can I monitor my net bandwidth usage from command line ?
[21:53] <hwilde> how can I monitor my net bandwidth usage from command line ?'
[21:53] <rww> !pastebin | slestak
[21:53] <|{urse> PATX just press ctrl + u and look at the source
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> slestak: if its a dependancy of another app, it will be needed
[21:54] <vengfulsquirrel> How can I figure out the dependency tree from the console? Ie. matplotlib is trying to install X I think
[21:54] <eseven73> hwilde: iftop
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde Please dont repeat.. you know better
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> slestak: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution && sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[21:54] <hwilde> jesus christ I hit up arrow once
[21:54] <eseven73> 'sudo apt-get install iftop'  hwilde
[21:54] <slestak> rww, it appear is the uppdate manager as a recommended update.
[21:54] <ComputerCarl> something something someone and your mom
[21:54] <PATX> |{urse: i did buts that is only the html part i need the part on how they paste it
[21:54] <IamGod> Hello my children.
[21:54] <slestak> ActionParsnip: i will try that.  thx
[21:54] <hwilde> like the chat room was pristine before I repeated myself one line extra
[21:54] <mikeypizano> ActionParsnip, i cant get that link to work
[21:54] <rww> slestak: try ActionParsnip's advice :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> mikeypizano: which?
[21:55] <macjason0607> how would i use du to find how much room i have on an externa ?
[21:55] <ComputerCarl> sorry, i was afk... i was asking about drbd, someone asked how much free space... well, fc10 is installed, and soon to be wiped, so lots of free space... 4tb
[21:55] <cmv583> Hi there, i need some help.
[21:55] <Pici> hwilde: You could use vnstat see http://bobbo.me.uk/?p=231
[21:55] <mikeypizano> the one where u add the file to some .dfi thing
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> macjason0607: i'd suggest df -h
[21:55] <macjason0607> yea
[21:55] <macjason0607> thanks
[21:55] <ComputerCarl> so no one in here uses drbd?
[21:56] <schone> hi all
[21:56] <schone> I just installed the 8.04 server edition of ubuntu, during the setup it asked my http proxy config, where does this config get stored?
[21:56] <ComputerCarl> can someone do an apt get list and tell me what ver of drbd is listed?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> mikeypizano: what was your issue, itll jog my memory
[21:56] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow,  stop kicking me you are not being proportionally responsive to a one line repeat
[21:56] <|{urse> hwilde are you arguing with a bot?
[21:56] <Mythril> I've installed sql-ledger package, now how do I use it?
[21:56] <mikeypizano> cant get touchpad to work on 8.10 becuase it needs shmconfig
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> !info drbd
[21:56] <rww> hwilde: discuss operator actions in #ubuntu-ops, not here
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hwilde You not only repeated, you swore, you were ot and you continued after repeating.. read the rules.. thanks
[21:56] <IamGod> Hello my children.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> hi IamGod
[21:57] <IamGod> I smile on ye
[21:57] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow, you over reacted so chill out.
[21:57] <IamGod> For the evil satan
[21:57] <IamGod> known as microsoft
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> ComputerCarl: its not a package
[21:57] <vengfulsquirrel> ComputerCarl: drbd0.7-utils drbd8-utils   ???
[21:57] <IamGod> has tempted many
[21:57] <nbeebo> is there cad equalivent for ubuntu/linux?
[21:57] <mikeypizano> pwned!
[21:58] <slestak> rww: ActionParsnip: i think the problem was i had evolution-plugins and some other packages with unmet dependencies
[21:58] <afallenhope|work> heh
[21:58] <LjL> !equivalents > nbeebo    (nbeebo, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:58] <rww> slestak: sounds like it, yeah
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> slestak: yeah, autoremove will get rid of orphaned deps
[21:58] <ComputerCarl> actionparsnip, esplain, its in the kernel
[21:58] <malcom2073> Hey, I'm running 8.10, I have a couple extra hard drives in this machine. how can I make them auto-mount on startup?
[21:58] <slestak> can i do a dry run to see what else it will remove
[21:59] <rww> !fstab | malcom2073: put them in your fstab
[21:59] <slestak> im paranoid I'll see python or gcc go out the door too :)
[21:59] <malcom2073> Gotcha, thanks rww
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> malcom2073: add entrys to /etc/fstab
[21:59] <Censer> hello to all...
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> hi Censer
[22:00] <NeT_DeMoN> richo1
[22:00] <rww> slestak: if you issue those commands ActionParsnip gave you, they'll prompt you with a list of package to be removed before they remove anything
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> malcom2073 mounting is usually automatic, but windows drives can get locked by a bad umount (even from windows) and need to be force mounted
[22:00] <slestak> k, tyvm guys
[22:00] <NeT_DeMoN> what the hell
[22:01] <malcom2073> Jack_Sparrow, : these are NTFS drives, but even on a regular reboot, ubuntu isnt remounting them
[22:01] <malcom2073> I'
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !force
[22:01] <malcom2073> I'll just add them to the fstab file
[22:01] <mastershihochief> i had a similar problem
[22:01] <nbeebo> how do i set xchat to use firefox on links?
[22:01] <nbeebo> #cad
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> malcom2073 sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[22:02] <nbeebo> !cad
[22:02] <tlex> Quick question, everytime i logout, or reboot, numlock gets turned off. does anyone know how to fix this?   PS it is set to on in my bios
[22:02] <keres_> every time i try to move a file/folder in /home/keres/games/ it always says permission denied.
[22:02] <LjL> !fishing | nbeebo
[22:02] <keres_> why is this?
[22:02] <Censer> I've got just a simple question(perhaps noob question): Why can't i join #ubuntu-de?
[22:02] <LjL> nbeebo: how about you look at my !equivalents link, or for that matter you "apt-cache search cad | grep CAD"
[22:02] <keres_> every time i try to move a file/folder in /home/keres/games/ it always says permission denied.
[22:02] <keres_> why is this?
[22:02] <rww> keres_: probably that directory isn't owned by you. Try sudo chown -R keres:keres /home/keres/games/
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > keres_
[22:02] <macjason0607> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83168/ < -- will this work ?
[22:02] <n8tuser> keres_-> have you done any tutorials yet on file ownership in linux?
[22:03] <malcom2073> Jack_Sparrow: And that will auto-remount them on reboot?
[22:03] <jolter> Censer: /j ubuntu-de
[22:03] <nbeebo> ljl, yeah did so, trying to join a #cad channel to ask for the most simple 3d software to design a room...
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> keres_: try sudo chown -R <your user name> /home/<your user name>
[22:03] <rww> keres_: explanation: sudo makes the command run with administrator privilages, chown CHanges OWNer, -R does it for all directories in the place you specify, keres:keres is the user:group to change it to
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> malcom2073 It will clear a lock.. which SHOULD let them automount
[22:03] <Setebos> I don't know if this is the proper place to ask but can anyone here help me stream a mp4 to my friend?
[22:03] <hwilde> are the feisty repos down?   Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/iftop/iftop_0.17-3_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> keres_ Is that your user /home or another user on your pc
[22:03] <Censer> jolter: it says "You are banned from that channel"
[22:03] <Censer> xD
[22:04] <malcom2073> Being as I will be rebooting into windows on a regular basis, would adding them to the fstab file auto-clear them if they're locked and make sure they're mounted?
[22:04] <rww> hwilde: feisty is EOL and got removed from the archives. Use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[22:04] <jolter> Censer: well :D that explains why you cant join :D
[22:04] <natsukao> how can i mount GNU/linux on a pen usb from 1 gb with ext3 ?
[22:04] <keres_> thank you
[22:04] <rww> !usb | natsukao
[22:05] <Censer> jolter: Yes. Its just - I never was was ther before...
[22:05] <tlex> Quick question, every time i log out, or reboot, numlock gets turned off. does anyone know how to fix this?   PS it is set to on in my bios
[22:05] <spud1> ah the joys of banning
[22:05] <|{urse> tlex you can set that in your bios
[22:06] <Demios> hello, I'm having a problem with my cdrom drive, first, it seems like it attempts to mount cds twice. The second time, giving me an error stating that I don't have permission at it's read only or something. I also cannot seem to burn cds
[22:06] <tlex> it is set to be on in my bios
[22:06] <cmv583> can anyone help me? all compiz settings are enable, still no cube?
[22:06] <Demios> brasero tells me every blank cd I put in has 0 bytes available
[22:06] <|{urse> thats odd tlex, lemme google that
[22:06] <tlex> thanks
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: have you ran: compiz --replace & 2>/dev/null
[22:06] <|{urse> whats your mobo model?
[22:07] <cmv583> ActionParsnip: no not yet
[22:07] <jolter> Censer: ok well then you might as well stay here :)
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: thats why then
[22:07] <JohnE> hey, I haven't installed ubuntu in a while, but last time I did, it was a pain that the install disk was a cdrom, and I had to download a lot of files after that
[22:07] <nbeebo> whats the most easy-to-use cad-like program? cant find anything good on linux, or does someone know any good channel to ask that?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> JohnE: windows is identical
[22:08] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:08] <JohnE> what does that mean ActionParsnip ?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> JohnE: the cd has the latest files at the time but updates will then need installing
[22:08] <|{urse> tlex try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[22:08] <Censer> jolter: right... its just that i cant explain my problem very well...
[22:08] <tlex> ok thanks
[22:08] <JohnE> ok, but opensuse has a 4GB dvd full of rpms
[22:08] <|{urse> ^^ lemme know if it worked
[22:08] <JohnE> why can't I get a large version of ubuntu?
[22:08] <cmv583> ActionParsnip: not sure what happened. u want result? will that help
[22:09] <Mythril> I've installed sql-ledger package, now how do I use it?
[22:09] <JohnE> for that matter, can I just locally host a 20GB repository or something, so I can do local installs faster?
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnE yes, easy to do
[22:09] <DasEi>  macjason0607:diskfree
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: well you arent running compiz until you run that command, you can configure all you want but if its not running, the settings dont do anything
[22:09] <rww> JohnE: which version of Ubuntu do you want a DVD for? Intrepid?
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnE it is around 6 dvd's
[22:09] <|{urse> yes JohnE or you can look into using partimage over the network
[22:10] <JohnE> this all sounds good
[22:10] <|{urse> kind of like a ghostcast server
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnE the inrepid dvd inclueds the repo "Main"
[22:10] <|{urse> if you are familiar with that
[22:10] <JohnE> I'm not too familiar with ubuntu, I come from opensuse
[22:11] <JohnE> i have a centos server locally, and some laptops I want to put hardy and intrepid on
[22:11] <cmv583> ActionParsnip:  thanx, still no cube?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> JohnE: i'd use the system as is til you get comfy with it, then start getting deeper
[22:11] <nbeebo> whats the most easy-to-use cad-like program? cant find anything good on linux, or does someone know any good channel to ask that?
[22:11] <DefunctProcess> Jack_Sparrow, you're a smart guy, do you have any suggestions for an online resource that will explain in newb friendly terms how to compile a custom kernel with built-in drivers?
[22:11] <JohnE> can I start some download to the centos server, and then use partimage scp from the centos server?
[22:11] <ph0rensic> nbeebo: Did you think if cad works on wine?
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> DefunctProcess nope
[22:11] <rww> JohnE: Intrepid DVDs are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ . Hardy DVDs are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/ . Either way, you're going to end up downloading a bunch of updates, so a local repository might be a smarter idea.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: are you using ctrl+alt+ mouse 1?
[22:12] <JohnE> yeah, I think a repository mirror sounds smarter
[22:12] <malcom2073> Ok another question: Anyone know of a good place to get ATI video card drivers for ubuntu? both the manufacturer 'fglrx' drivers and drivers that come with ubuntu have issues with visual effects so I have to turn them off (which isnt fun). Are there any others?
[22:12] <JohnE> I have a TB on my server
[22:12] <|{urse> JohnE ive never used centos but im sure you can compile partimage and write a small script for it
[22:12] <|{urse> very easy
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: make sure you have 4 viewpors in your settings too
[22:13] <nbeebo> ph0rensic, theres lots of cad programs on linux
[22:14] <nbeebo> how to open links with firefox on xchat? cant find it in the settings
[22:14] <cmv583> ActionParsnip:  not sure what u mean?
[22:14] <DasEi> nbeebo: go back ot , I' ll look now
[22:15] <malcom2073> nbeebo: Perhaps make firefox your "default" browser?
[22:15] <balau> nbeebo, ctrl+click on the link
[22:15] <sav1o> hi, how does the package manager deals with different compilation flags? I mean, for example, if I want to run 'directfb' compile with '--enable-sdl', or even if I want to have '--enable-debug', how can I procede?
[22:16] <nbeebo> dasei, sorry i dont understand, malcom2073 i think i do, havent installed any other browser on ubuntu desktop, balau ok good to know thanks
[22:16] <malcom2073> nbeebo: in firefox, edit -> preferences, advanced tab, at the bottom "Check Now" I think will let you set it as default if it's no
[22:16] <malcom2073> Just a thought heh
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: ok in ccsm, go to general options
[22:16] <nbeebo> malcom2073 thanks, it was
[22:17] <malcom2073> well then I'm out of ideas atm :( sorry heh
[22:17] <msivanich> is the regular driver module for ATI cards ati?
[22:17] <nbeebo> malcom2073 ;_; no problem lol
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: and set horizontal size under the desktop size tab to 3 or 4
[22:17] <rww> msivanich: depends on your card. some use ati, some use radeon, some use radeonhd, if i remember correctly
[22:18] <DasEi> nbeebo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83173/
[22:18] <msivanich> rww: radion hd 2600
[22:18] <B3z3rk3r> hey rww nice to see you back
[22:18] <malcom2073> rww:  Are there any others places to get ATI drives besides the ones that come with ubuntu, and the "proprietary" drives you can get from ati?
[22:18] <malcom2073> like third party drives
[22:18] <malcom2073> drivers*
[22:19] <nxmehta> is there a way to print out the list of flags used to compile the ubuntu kernel?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> malcom2073: you could try envyng-gtk
[22:19] <malcom2073> k I'll give that a try, neither the ubuntu or ati drivers work :-/
[22:19] <rww> malcom2073: the only places I'd recommend getting ATI drivers is from the repos. Try the ones I listed above, or fglrx (which is also in the repos).
[22:19] <nbeebo> dasei, thanks alot ill try all of that
[22:19] <cmv583> ActionParsnip:  no cube just cylinder
[22:20] <rww> malcom2073, msivanich: but lots of other people know more than me about ati drivers. I just use radeon and put up with it :)
[22:20] <mastershihochief> im having an apache 2 problem making my entire system stop responding, can some one please help me?
[22:20] <scotlfs> !usb
[22:20] <malcom2073> Heh hear hear putting up with it
[22:20] <Sweetandy> What's the plan for Ubuntu and OOo3?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> cmv583: yeah i got that. i think its funny. not sure, least you got it working some, i'd ask in #compiz
[22:20] <n8tuser2> mastershihochief-> can you get to a console  ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[22:21] <Sweetandy> I don't see it in Jaunty even
[22:21] <solus> hi, i'm using the broadcom sta drivers with 8.10 and it was working fine a few days ago but lately I can't connect wirelessly
[22:21] <DasEi> nbeebo: xchat opens the default browser of your sys, unles you not cópy the url manually, so got to set your default browser
[22:21] <solus> i have wpa on the router
[22:21] <B3z3rk3r> Sweetandy: we should be seeing it in the next RC
[22:21] <malcom2073> envyng-qt is the only one avail, apparently they don't have a gtk version out yet? O_o
[22:21] <nDuff> mastershihochief, that's a lot of vagueness. Could you give more detail? How do you know it's an Apache problem?
[22:21] <rww> Sweetandy: Officially? It's not going to be in intrepid (except maybe in backports). It will be in jaunty.
[22:21] <mastershihochief> ya
[22:21] <|{urse> oh yeah i forgot to ask what i came here for.. are there any other compositing wm's besides xcompmgr that i can use with openbox?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> malcom2073: try tab completing after envyng
[22:21] <malcom2073> Yeah I did ActionParsnip, I got it saying "is envyng-qt installed?" when I typed envyng-gtk
[22:21] <malcom2073> lol
[22:22] <msivanich> rww: yeah i dont need any special effects just trying to set up a 2 video card setup 1-nvidia 1-ati card.  Trying to set up my xorg.conf file hoping to have seperate x sessions
[22:22] <malcom2073> I can live with qt though
[22:22] <rww> oh hey, the OO3 PPA is back up :)
[22:22] <solus> do any of you have broadcom wireless cards and are using wpa?
[22:22] <mastershihochief> n8tuser: yes i can ctrl+alt+f1
[22:22] <cmv583> ActionParsnip: thanx. new to ubuntu how do i go to #compiz?
[22:22] <solus> and intrepid
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> cmv  /j #Channelname
[22:22] <truebosko> Hi there. My USB printer was working fine but all of a sudden it stopped working after trying to print something else. It's detected in my Printers, and print jobs are sent to the queue but it just hangs at "processing"
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> malcom2073: you could try qt, you will install qt libs but if you dont mind the bloat go for it, it might be too bad
[22:23] <malcom2073> Jack_Sparrow: /join #channelname   the RFC dosent not specify that alias must be defined :P
[22:23] <|{urse> /join
[22:23] <malcom2073> ActionParsnip: I write in qt, so I already have the libs :P
[22:23] <truebosko> running /etc/init.d/cups status returns: cupsd is running .. so I'm at a loss at what could be wrong. any tiops?
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> malcom2073 What?
[22:23] <mastershihochief> nduff: whenever i go to sites where i am loading images from my localhost my system stops
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> malcom2073: then: sudo apt-get install envyng-qt && gksudo envyng-qt
[22:23] <nbeebo> DasEi, firefox were default, and i tried xdg-open 'http://www.google.com' and it opened in firefox, so i guess ill live with ctrl+click.. well thanks alot for ur help! :D
[22:23] <lesshaste> how do I update from hardy to intrepid?
[22:23] <malcom2073> Yeah I got it, running now
[22:23] <rww> !upgrade | lesshaste
[22:24] <lesshaste> thx
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste You must go through gutsy to do it
[22:24] <graft> yo what is the gnome pdf viewer called?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: i'd suggest the server method via cli
[22:24] <Aggro> I have LTSP server and I would like to use old laptop as LTSP client. Problem is the PCMCIA network adapter, which is not recogniced by Etherboot boot disk. Netboot might be one option, but I failed to understand how it is used. Can anyone help?
[22:24] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, no :)
[22:24] <malcom2073> The only ATI driver it shows, I have and is enabled apparently
[22:24] <B3z3rk3r> lesshaste: you can just use the built in update manger from Ubuntu
[22:24] <DasEi> nbeebo: keep the nights long :D
[22:24] <|{urse> any other compositing wm's besides xcompmgr that i can use with openbox?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> graft: gpdf or xpdf
[22:24] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, g, h, i
[22:24] <malcom2073> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry I was nitpicking, :P
[22:24] <nbeebo> dasei, :D
[22:24] <rww> lesshaste: I think Jack_Sparrow had a brain fart ;)
[22:24] <cmv583> Jacksparrow: where do i enter that?
[22:25] <mastershihochief> lol
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> yep..
[22:25] <lesshaste> rww,  no problem :0
[22:25] <lesshaste> :)
[22:25] <nbeebo> anyone know the name of the program that splits the terminal in half?
[22:25] <graft> ActionParsnip: nope, it's something else... the "Document Viewer" thing?
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> cmv583 right on this line
[22:25] <rww> nbeebo: screen
[22:25] <|{urse> nbeebo terminator
[22:25] <evilgnome> terminator?
[22:25] <|{urse> oh yeah
[22:25] <malcom2073> ok, so apparently I already have the envyng driver, and it has problems too
[22:25] <nDuff> mastershihochief, ...interesting. Other connectivity to localhost works? Have you checked for a fork bomb in a CGI or similar maliciousness?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> graft: i'd use xpdf personally, its nice and light. do you mean ghostview
[22:25] <graft> ActionParsnip: no, it's definitely a gnome app
[22:25] <|{urse> fork bomb makes sense nDuff, i was gonna say thatr]
[22:26] <Sweetandy> kk thanks
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> graft: then thats all i got, maybe someone else can help
[22:26] <mastershihochief> nDuff, i have only used linux for 8 days now i dont know what that is XD. I just installed it yesterday so i could use graphics packs on a web based game
[22:26] <nDuff> mastershihochief, It might be interesting to have htop already running (and apache at a very low priority) while you trigger the problem
[22:26] <mastershihochief> how do i do that
[22:26] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, at really low resolution I can a very twisted login screen, vertical black lines and colours all wrong
[22:26] <graft> anyone? the GNOME pdf viewer, what's it called?
[22:26] <evilgnome> evince
[22:26] <evilgnome> graft: it's evince
[22:26] <malcom2073> So, nobody else knows of any other ATI drivers than the open source repo ones, and the ATI proprietary ones?
[22:26] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, at really low resolution I can a see very twisted login screen, vertical black lines and colours all wrong
[22:27] <Jack_Sparrow> graft I used kpdf as the default seemed slower to me
[22:27] <nbeebo> rww, nope not it, |{urse and evilgnome, thanks, ill recommend it to the mate who asked for it
[22:27] <graft> evilgnome: ah thankee
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: are the gfx onboard or is it a card?
[22:27] <malcom2073> It's a card
[22:27] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, onboard
[22:27] <malcom2073> oh
[22:27] <malcom2073> not asking me
[22:27] <nDuff> mastershihochief, that's a bit more involved than I can walk a complete noob through right now, unfortunately -- I'm at work, and so need to be getting at least some level of productivity.
[22:27] <malcom2073> lol sorry
[22:27] <FloodBot1> malcom2073: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <graft> Jack_Sparrow: you still using 3.5.9/10?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: can you boot to livecd ok?
[22:27] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: think you are out of luck m8, not so many ppl working on them likethe nvidia ones.
[22:28] <malcom2073> Yeah, I knew I should've switched to nvidia before buying this $500 pos :-/
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> graft which app?
[22:28] <|{urse> malcom2073, did you try envy like suggested?>
[22:28] <malcom2073> Kurse: yes
[22:28] <graft> Jack_Sparrow: kpdf... or do you mean okular?
[22:28] <bjm101> ok je suis la
[22:28] <|{urse> oh what exactly are you needing to do?
[22:28] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, nope, don't have a cd/dvd-writer
[22:28] <graft> Jack_Sparrow: starting up kde libs stuff is always slow on my lappy from gnome...
[22:28] <rww> !fr | bjm101
[22:28] <truebosko> When dealing with printers for my device URL, what should it point to roughly? Right now it says usb://Lexmark 1200 Series but something tells me this is incorrect.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: do you have the cd you installed with?
[22:29] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: yeah, in future nvidia is the way to go.. they simply ahve better support for their products
[22:29] <malcom2073> I'm trying to figure out why I can't use the "Extra" visual effects without all 3d windows going borked
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> graft It wasnt slow to come up, just lagged while flipping pages
[22:29] <|{urse> yeah nvidia is great(er)
[22:29] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: what card do u have?
[22:29] <malcom2073> X1950 Crossfire
[22:29] <bjm101> voila ma carte audio est "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller"
[22:29] <|{urse> malcolm what model of ati?
[22:29] <malcom2073> ^^ Radeon X1950 Crossfire edition
[22:29] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, I installed ubuntu via a usb-stick, why?
[22:29] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: hmm...
[22:30] <|{urse> i can paste u my xorg.conf im using that card with the restricted driver
[22:30] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: have u tried the forums?
[22:30] <evilgnome> does anyone know why with the latest updates, emerald no longer provides a /usr/bin/emerald executable? I have emerald installed (and reinstalled), but according to dpkg -L it only added documentation...
[22:30] <aboucher> what is a good vm for ubuntu hardy
[22:30] <|{urse> did wonders
[22:30] <rww> !vm | aboucher
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: can you boot to recovery console aqnd run lspci | grep -i vga
[22:30] <rww> !fr > bjm101
[22:30] <evilgnome> aboucher: virtualbox is my recommendation
[22:30] <malcom2073> Windows drivers have even always been a bit flaky, so I really shouldn't be shocked that linux drivers are too :-/. I'm really not concerned enough with it to use the forums, I can just use no visual effects when I want to run anything 3d
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: it will tell yuo the vga card, maybe you can set it up in cli then boot to gui
[22:30] <aboucher> !Virtual Box
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox | aboucher
[22:31] <aboucher> !VirtualBox
[22:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !info vbox
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> aboucher: they dont have spaces
[22:31] <rww> !info virtualbox-ose hardy
[22:31] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: true, but would u rather ahve wobbly windows?  :P
[22:31] <malcom2073> I kinda would :P. I mean come on, I have this powerful computer, and in linux I'm just plain not using the power :(
[22:31] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, VGA compatible controller: VIA ttechnologies, Inc. Chrome9 HC IGP (rev 01)
[22:32] <rww> malcom2073: go run BOINC or Folding@Home or something if you need to be using all your power :P
[22:32] <malcom2073> Lol
[22:32] <graft> malcom2073: the radeon drivers are just borked
[22:32] <ohcrapitsgone> Ok problem.... I had vista installed on my computer and just installed Ubuntu but grub never found my Vista install and I can only get to linux. What menu entry for grub do I use to boot vista?
[22:32] <malcom2073> graft: yeah, ATI is borked in general
[22:32] <graft> malcom2073: i assume you tried fglrx?
[22:32] <malcom2073> Yep
[22:32] <Mythril> why does firefox use non-default programs to open files I have downloaded?
[22:33] <rww> Mythril: Edit > Preferences > Applications from Firefox
[22:33] <graft> malcom2073: well, i got a new dell desktop, and it works perfectly there, but my laptop has always been flaky... just never bothered to fix the driver for the older, obscure chips
[22:33] <`paul> would rm -rf /  delete my whole filesystem? just curious....?
[22:33] <malcom2073> graft: What video card do you have in your desktop?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> sluimers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> 'paul yes it would
[22:33]  * malcom2073 waits patiently for |{urse :P
[22:33] <rww> `paul: yes, it would, and it's a very wise idea to not mention that command in channel
[22:33] <Mythril> rww: I have everything in there set to 'Always Ask'
[22:33] <`paul> ooops my bad sorry
[22:34] <malcom2073> |{urse lemme know when it's done, you have some kind of flood control on that
[22:34] <Mythril> rww: besides that is how firefox plays embedded content, as far as I am aware
[22:34] <sluimers> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:34] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: im seeing lots of black screen issues from the X1950
[22:35] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: your not getting that right?
[22:35] <rww> Mythril: If that doesn't help, I'm not sure how to help you. I just remember that preference tab helped me when stuff was opening in the wrong application.
[22:35] <malcom2073> B3z3rk3r: Right. I'm getting 3d being borked (polygons flying all over the place, really weird), and 2d is overlaying over the entire desktop flashing at its regular framerate, but being overwritten by a window. Very epileptic seizure like.
[22:35] <Nick_Meister> hello guys how can i free up the alt key in kde to use inside of blender?
[22:36] <Nick_Meister> its like it has been reserved by the system or something
[22:36] <aboucher> how do install virtual box
[22:36] <|{urse> malcom2073, there u go
[22:36] <ompaul> Nick_Meister, ask in #kubuntu they might know more
[22:36] <|{urse> i pasted the important bits
[22:36] <|{urse> when you have you xorg.conf run gstreamer-properties and set the noxv option uder the video tab
[22:36] <|{urse> its the only way i can get my x1950 working
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | Nick_Meister
[22:36] <graft> malcom2073: actually, it looks like i have an onboard intel chip, never mind
[22:36] <truebosko> Anyone ever had the issue with "Printer port busy" that's the error I get whenever I try to print anything, but my queue is empty (until I print that page, then it just sits in queue)
[22:36] <malcom2073> |{urse: alright I'll give that a try, thanks
[22:36] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: wow.. thats pretty crazy sounding. Havent come across anything like that on th forums yet
[22:36] <rww> aboucher: install package "virtualbox-ose" from Synaptic or from the terminal: "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose"
[22:36] <mastershihochief> i went and did a ps aux when my problem was occuring
[22:36] <mastershihochief> root      5724 15.9  3.7  90252 77144 tty7     SLs+ Dec08 237:38 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[22:36] <graft> malcom2073: but i've definitely had ATI chips that worked fine before
[22:36] <|{urse> ^^ good luck that card is a mess
[22:37] <klync> is SATA 300 something different than standard SATA support? wondering what to look for to figure out if my computer can support it
[22:37] <mastershihochief> the problem occurs when that process goes to 100
[22:37] <malcom2073> B3z3rk3r: I've seen the polygon problem before in older games when you have a REALLY outdated video card, but never in anything modern.
[22:37] <soreau> evilgnome: What executable are you looking for?
[22:37] <evilgnome> /usr/bin/emerald
[22:37] <malcom2073> |{urse pasted me some xorg.conf file stuff, it could be mine is just plain set wrong
[22:37] <malcom2073> ima try taht
[22:37] <tobias__> jo joo
[22:37] <malcom2073> any way to restart X without logging out/shutting down all my running programs?
[22:37] <B3z3rk3r> malcom2073: Gl man
[22:37] <tobias__> das geht doch maL qarnich
[22:37] <tobias__> oha
[22:37] <rww> !de | tobias__
[22:37] <soreau> evilgnome: I wont be able to help you in here if you don't use my nick
[22:38] <vladtsepesh1984> sorry gyus...i have followed the guide to sync my smartphone on ubuntu....all warks fine and i successfully made a syncronization with evolution with evo2sync but in evolution i dont have no contacts....why????
[22:38] <evilgnome> soreau: sorry. /usr/bin/emerald. but also /usr/bin/emerald-theme-manager is gone, too
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> afk... someone at the door
[22:38] <rww> malcom2073: no, unfortunately :(
[22:39] <malcom2073> That is plain unfortunate, and come to think of it odd.
[22:39] <malcom2073> I know if you boot without x, you can start/stop it without logging out
[22:39] <scotlfs> !usb
[22:39] <malcom2073> I guess X is pre-login?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> evilgnome: sudo ap-get --reinstall install emerald
[22:39] <Demios> gaaah
[22:39] <eseven73> rww even if he ran it in screen?
[22:39]  * Demios pulls out his hair
[22:39] <rww> malcom2073: X11 is usually started in Ubuntu from GDM, which is pre-login, yes.
[22:39] <rww> malcom2073: the least-invasive method is Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[22:39] <Gnea> Demios: ?
[22:40] <rww> malcom2073: and that still closes all running GUI programs
[22:40] <evilgnome> ActionParsnip: thanks, I've tried reinstalling
[22:40] <rww> eseven73: what?
[22:40] <soreau> evilgnome: and since you're getting help in another channel, I can't help you
[22:40] <aboucher> does anyone know how i can help by testing jaunty?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> evilgnome: still not there?
[22:40] <rww> aboucher: Jaunty discussion belongs in #ubuntu+1, not here, thanks
[22:40] <Demios> Gnea: my dvd rw drive is kicking my ass
[22:40] <Demios> it wont let me burn anything
[22:40] <malcom2073> Oh, I guess that makes sense
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> evilgnome: whats the output of: which emerald
[22:40] <aboucher> ok
[22:40] <malcom2073> Most gui programs probably arent programmed to run without an x server :P
[22:40] <eseven73> rww: if malcom2073 were to run his programs in the screen app, and restart x, would they still be running?
[22:40] <Demios> keeps telling me the available space is 0 bytes in brasero and any other app i use
[22:40] <Gnea> Demios: what about k3b?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Demios: have you tried a few different burning apps? have you tried setting burning speed lower
[22:41] <evilgnome> ActionParsnip: still not, but aptitude has uninstalled libemeraldengine0. which emerald gives no output
[22:41] <Demios> ActionParsnip: some apps wont even let me burn because "there is no room"
[22:41] <rww> eseven73: "screen app" as in the "screen" command in Terminal? Yes if they're command-line, no if they're GUI apps (which is what he's talking about).
[22:41] <eternaljoy> my DVD player worked, but now it doesn't.  What can I do? thanks.
[22:41] <Gnea> Demios: that makes no sense - no room where?
[22:41] <rww> eseven73: I think that's the case, anyway. I don't feel like restarting X11 to find out.
[22:41] <eternaljoy> lepke: hello
[22:41] <Demios> on the blank cdrs
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Demios: can you give the exact error please
[22:42] <Don> i know you guys are busy , but can i ask a question
[22:42] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: any ideas pls?
[22:42] <rww> !ask | Don
[22:42] <DasEi> eternaljoy: using vlc ?
[22:42] <eseven73> rww yeah i havent tested that theory either and i too dont feel like restart x to find out :)
[22:42] <malcom2073> Well im about to have to restart X
[22:42] <malcom2073> so how do I test this? :P
[22:42] <eternaljoy> DasEi: Ubuntu doesnt recognise the DVD at all
[22:42] <malcom2073> Or can you not do it on already running programs?
[22:42] <B3z3rk3r> Ctrl+Alt+backspace malcom2073
[22:43] <scotlfs> ActionParsnip: although the USB guides didn't specifically address my issue, they helped me figure out what to do to fix my problem. I am now creating a new USB installation. Thanks very much for your help
[22:43] <malcom2073> k, if I get booted, we all know why :P
[22:43] <Don> is there a recovery disc that will check if you are missing any basic packages in your ubuntu 8.10 setup
[22:43] <malcom2073> brb
[22:43] <eseven73> malcom2073: you could do 'screen htop' or something and restart x,
[22:43] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: after mounting cd rom and cd there, no files by ls-cmd ?
[22:43] <rww> eseven73: htop is command line, so it should get saved.
[22:43] <eternaljoy> DasEi: how I mount it?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> scotlfs: glad you reached the right path. np man :D
[22:43] <malcom2073> k I got another app running
[22:43] <malcom2073> here goes
[22:43] <eseven73> i know
[22:44] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: open a terminal
[22:44] <Don> who me
[22:44] <eseven73> kinda offtopic but someone earlier asked about networking monitoring, i found a cool app for that called iptraf, its in the repos too :)
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> !info iptraf
[22:44] <King_Of_Worms> this is the right place to ask for help on how to do things in Ubuntu??
[22:44] <rww> King_Of_Worms: yes
[22:44] <Nick_Meister> how do i get rid of alt+left drag feature?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: yep
[22:44] <King_Of_Worms> cool
[22:45] <malcom2073> Nope, it closed the screen app I opened
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Nick_Meister: i think its an x thing. not sure, its dead handy
[22:45] <eseven73> malcom2073: type 'screen -ls'
[22:45] <rww> malcom2073: issue "screen -r" in a terminal
[22:45] <King_Of_Worms> I was hoping someone could help me figure out how to bind a folder to another location on boot
[22:45] <Nick_Meister> ActionParsnip, i need to either get rid of it or change it to something else
[22:45] <Don> is there a repair disk for ubuntu 8.10?
[22:45] <King_Of_Worms> i tried the suggestion i found on the forums, but it didn't work :(
[22:45] <Gnea> Don: have you tried making a usb startup disk?
[22:46] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo mkdir /mnt/cd
[22:46] <eseven73> malcom2073: do what rww said, he's got easier ways of doing things, i do things the hard way
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: you can use a symlink, it appears as a folder but will magically transport you to the other folder you link to if you click it
[22:46] <Don> only access i have is thru the terminal
[22:46] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: only one cd drive ?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: is taht what you mean?
[22:46] <malcom2073> rww: oh very cool
[22:46] <eseven73> malcom2073: is it running?
[22:46] <Don> i guess i must have removed files that let me get the usb interface and keybd working under the windows like interface
[22:46] <malcom2073> eseven73: negative, I havent restarted X yet again lol
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Nick_Meister: not sure dude
[22:46] <King_Of_Worms> ActionParsnip, i think so, how do I create a symlink?
[22:46] <eseven73> ah
[22:47] <Don> only had the linux for 2 weeks, new at it
[22:47] <malcom2073> And this whole mess didn't fix my problem :(. For instance: The visualization in rhythm-box it flickers all the time, especially when it's behind another window it flickers in front, and when I drag the window with extra effects on, the visualization stays in place and keeps flickering
[22:47] <Gnea> Don: do you have any important data residing on your ubuntu install?
[22:47] <King_Of_Worms> mount --bind is the command I use to do it manually, but i want it to happen automatically at boot time
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: ln -s /path/to/folder/to/be/linked /location/of/link/linkname
[22:47] <malcom2073> screen -r says "no screen to resume"
[22:47] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  ?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: obviosly change the names of the folders etc
[22:48] <think_linux> hello evryone, i got a problem with my synaptic, it wont let access it. here is the info http://paste.ubuntu.com/83184/    thanks for help
[22:48] <malcom2073> Oh this screen command looks very cool. Looks like I should ssh -x into this box remotely and bring desktop windows over?
[22:48] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes only 1 DVD
[22:48] <eternaljoy> DasEi: I type  sudo mkdir /mnt/cd ?
[22:48] <eseven73> screen rocks
[22:48] <rafting> I'm really tired at this. I can't get my wireless card to work. Should I have to reconfigure my modem and router? The network is detected but I can't authenticate, I'm positive I'm giving the correct authentification-password.
[22:48] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  yes, then : umount /dev/scd0
[22:48] <eternaljoy> ok brtb
[22:48] <rww> think_linux: open a terminal and issue "sudo apt-get update". If you get errors from that, put them in pastebin and link it here. If not, try Synaptic again.
[22:49] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  yes, then : sudo umount /dev/scd0                 ,sorry
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> rafting: yu could try ndiswrapper + xp32 or xp64 driver
[22:49] <think_linux> rww: ok 1 sec
[22:49] <eternaljoy> DasEi: umount: /dev/scd0 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[22:49] <sav1o> hi, how does the package manager deals with different compilation flags? I mean, for example, if I want to run 'directfb' compile with '--enable-sdl', or even if I want to have '--enable-debug', how can I procede?
[22:49] <rww> sav1o: it doesn't. The package manager doesn't compile, it downloads binary packages.
[22:49] <eternaljoy> DasEi: when I type   sudo umount /dev/scd0 it says: umount: /dev/scd0: not mounted
[22:49] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  k,     sudo mount -t iso9660  /dev/scd0   /mnt/cd
[22:49] <ultra_violet> hey guys
[22:49] <TheTetsu> hi
[22:49] <jrib> sav1o: get the source package, edit debian/rules, rebuild the package
[22:49] <King_Of_Worms> ActionParsnip, will I have to run that command after everytime I reboot, or is it permanent?
[22:50] <TheTetsu> my ubuntu I do not longer see the desktop and restart when I am starting as the dos mode of windows that do?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> sav1o: if the packaged app doesnt use the flags you want you must recompile yourself
[22:50] <eternaljoy> DasEi: mount: No medium found
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: its permanent
[22:50] <ultra_violet> does someone have troble running bin files in 8.04?
[22:50] <King_Of_Worms> cool
[22:50] <King_Of_Worms> Thanks :)
[22:50] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: drive empty ??
[22:50] <jrib> ultra_violet: can you be more vague?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: if you are making a link outside your home folder you must use sudo
[22:50] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes shall I put something in it? :P
[22:50] <rww> ultra_violet: is the .bin file an installer you downloaded from somewhere?
[22:50] <think_linux> rww: here is it  http://paste.ubuntu.com/83186/
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> ultra_violet: try chmod a+x <bin file name>
[22:50] <LjL> jrib: you weren't so sarcastic once upon a time :)
[22:51] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: eerm, your cd/dvd maybe
[22:51] <King_Of_Worms> ok, :) thanks again
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> ultra_violet: then run it with ./<bin file name>
[22:51] <rww> ActionParsnip: okay, no errors. Is Synaptic still broken, or is it now working?
[22:51] <Gnea> Don: your best bet, if you can, is to reinstall and try again - if you have a thumbdrive, you can make a usb startup disk with the System->Administration menu in order to help bail you out of this type of situation - if you have any files yet to be backed up, you should be able to get them out of your ~/Desktop or wherever they are onto a thumbdrive
[22:51] <rww> think_linux: : okay, no errors. Is Synaptic still broken, or is it now working?
[22:51] <SwiftIRC919> help with ubuntu
[22:51] <rww> ActionParsnip: sorry, nick confusion :)
[22:51] <SwiftIRC919> private convo with someone please?
[22:51] <Perogies> hey folks, a nvidia driver error caused my computer to freeze, causing me to have to reboot holding down the power button. on boot up, it displayed the word "Grub" and I couldnt go any farther
[22:51] <sav1o> ActionParsnip: that's bad.
[22:51] <Gnea> Don: please keep the chatter to the channel, it will make it easier for others to help you
[22:51] <think_linux> rww: let me try
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> rww: i do that loads np man
[22:51] <DasEi> !ask | SwiftIRC919
[22:51] <SwiftIRC919> !ask
[22:51] <ultra_violet> i cant run bin files, nor in graphoc mode (it doesnt have any application), nor in terminal (command not found), neither with "sh" (Syntax error: "(" unexpected)
[22:51] <Gnea> !pm | SwiftIRC919
[22:51] <eseven73> LjL: power will do that to a person :P
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> sav1o: what is?
[22:51] <SwiftIRC919> !pm
[22:52] <eternaljoy> DasEi: Ok I put a DVD in the drive, do I now type: sudo mount -t iso9660  /dev/scd0   /mnt/cd ?
[22:52] <SwiftIRC919> ??
[22:52] <ultra_violet> i have the correct permissions and i tried several bin files
[22:52] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: yes
[22:52] <Pici> SwiftIRC919: Read what ubottu told you
[22:52] <sav1o> ActionParsnip: not having a package manager able to deal with flags, like gentoo's emerge does
[22:52] <Gnea> `olly: read what ubottu told you.
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> ultra_violet: you need to make it executable
[22:52] <eternaljoy> DasEi: it still says: mount: No medium found
[22:52] <nintendork32> i have been wondering this for a while now but why do i get files with ~ at the end?
[22:52] <`olly> ok
[22:52] <`olly> right...
[22:52] <eternaljoy> DasEi: what now?
[22:52] <ultra_violet> ActionParsnip I did
[22:52] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: do you use vlc-player ?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> sav1o: gentoo is way more advanced than ubuntu, ubuntu is made easier for linux virgins
[22:52] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes
[22:53] <think_linux> rww: lol well it works now....thanks a lot!!!! but how come??
[22:53] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: is a video dvd in the drive ?
[22:53] <ultra_violet> ActionParsnip "chmod +x" right?
[22:53] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes a dvd movie
[22:53] <`olly> I am using Ubuntu on a laptop, ive dont the load error on the hard drive and it seems that its not that thats the problem, pidgin wont connect and will close, no firefox history, and media player closes randomly?? help please?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ultra_violet: what messages do you get when you run it? yes thats right
[22:53] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: start vlc         ...
[22:53] <eternaljoy> DasEi: it used to play on its own, but now it doesnt.  about 3 days ago it stopped
[22:53] <rww> think_linux: apt-get update downloads a list of packages from the Ubuntu servers. At some point, one of those lists got broken on your computer, and doing apt-get update fixed it :)
[22:53] <jrib> ultra_violet: can you give more details... what exactly are you doing?  Give an example on pastebin
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ultra_violet: you need to cd to the folder then use ./<bin file>
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> ultra_violet: the ./ is imortant
[22:54] <Don> my problem started when ubuntu was running slow, so i thought i would get rid of some of those i did not need, but after that , i had no usb mouse or keyboard control once it rebooted, can only get into terminal mode - and since im new, dont know the commands etc to back up my system , besides , i need to reinstall the usb and keybd drivers to get into the windows like interface
[22:54] <eternaljoy> DasEi: Playback failure: DVDRead could not open the disk "/dev/scd0".
[22:54] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: media > open medium > scd0
[22:54] <think_linux> rww: haha sweet...thanks again...keep up with the good work, apreciate that
[22:54] <vladtsepesh1984> anyone can tell me how to sync 2WAY from PPC to evol and from evo to PPC with synce and opensync?????
[22:54] <malcom2073> Nope, that didn't fix it either
[22:54] <tim> hi all
[22:54] <rww> think_linux: you're welcome :) glad I could help!
[22:54] <Captcha> AHH
[22:55] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: (terminal:) sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:55] <Captcha> well im new here
[22:55] <eternaljoy> DasEi: I dont see any OPEN MEDIUM in the VLC Media menu
[22:55] <nintendork32> i have been wondering this for a while now but why do i get files with ~ at the end?
[22:55] <tim> new user here
[22:55] <Captcha> Hi!
[22:55] <methodmarvel> new user tim
[22:55] <Gnea> Don: that's why i asked if you had any important files on your system (email, documents, pictures, movies, etc) because the best way to fix it is to reinstall
[22:55] <tim> how ,s
[22:55] <think_linux> rww: i'll prob come back again for some other stuff...linux drives me crzyyyyyy
[22:55] <`olly> I am using Ubuntu on a laptop, ive dont the load error on the hard drive and it seems that its not that thats the problem, pidgin wont connect and will close, no firefox history, and media player closes randomly when playing music.
[22:55] <eternaljoy> DasEi: sudo apt-get install pastebinit  DONE
[22:55] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: lspci | pastebinit
[22:55] <Captcha> :|
[22:55] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: lspci | pastebinit
[22:55] <B3z3rk3r> tim: hey
[22:55] <tim> anyone open things up
[22:55] <rww> Hi Captcha!
[22:55] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: url ?
[22:55] <Captcha> there is a lot of people here
[22:55] <eternaljoy> DasEi: brb
[22:55] <rww> Captcha: yeah, it's a busy channel :)
[22:55] <Gnea> `olly: "ive dont the load error on the hard drive" <-- what does that mean?
[22:56] <`olly> one sec
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> tim: how do you mean?
[22:56] <eternaljoy> DasEi: it says: http://pastebin.com/f40ef4273
[22:56] <Don> i do have files so that is last option
[22:56] <Captcha> HOLY CR-
[22:56] <Captcha> UGH
[22:56] <Gnea> !caps | Captcha
[22:56] <tim> man i cant open any programs like games quake so forth
[22:56] <Hix-2> does anyone know if compiz will run on a lappy with an intel 945 for the video?
[22:56] <Melik> yo
[22:56] <Captcha> sorry
[22:56] <`olly> Ubuntu hard drive Load Cycle overkill bug
[22:56] <Don> i prob can install ubuntu 8.10 on my windows based hard drive , then copy files over from this drive
[22:56] <eternaljoy> DasEi: when I typed: lspci | pastebinit  it says: http://pastebin.com/f40ef4273
[22:57] <ultra_violet> ok, guys, sorry for taking so long
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> tim: search for loki installer, theres an installer for quake to make it native, other games can run via wine
[22:57] <ultra_violet> i had to dowload some files to try out
[22:57] <B3z3rk3r> Hix-2 yeah, should be plenty
[22:57] <tim> ok lol   thank you much
[22:57] <Captcha> jeez
[22:58] <tim> ok
[22:58] <Hix-2> bez3rk3r: thanks
[22:58] <tim>    wine
[22:58] <Gnea> !cedega | tim
[22:58] <ultra_violet> sudo chmod 755 PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[22:58] <B3z3rk3r> Hix-2: your welcome
[22:58] <ultra_violet> in the right folder
[22:58] <rww> Captcha: do you have a problem with Ubuntu that you need help with? If so, go ahead and type it out and if anyone knows how to fix it, they'll let you know. If not, #ubuntu-offtopic may be more to your tastes :)
[22:58] <tim> ok thank you
[22:58] <`olly> I am using Ubuntu on a laptop, Ubuntu hard drive Load Cycle overkill bug ive check and i dont have, pidgin wont connect and will close, no firefox history, and media player closes randomly when playing music.
[22:58] <eternaljoy> DasEi: I think when I did a update and the kernel was upgraded, the DVD drive stopped working.  any fix?
[22:59] <ultra_violet> PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[22:59] <Gnea> `olly: open a terminal and tail -f /var/log/syslog  and see if any errors happen when that happens
[22:59] <Captcha> wwwwweeeeeeeeeee
[22:59] <`olly> kk
[22:59] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo lshw | pastebinit
[22:59] <Captcha> :|
[22:59] <ultra_violet> without sh
[22:59] <Gnea> Captcha: do you have a question?
[22:59] <Captcha> no
[22:59] <rafting> ActionParship: im using windows vista
[23:00] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:url again ? (lspci doesn't list cd rom)
[23:00] <eternaljoy> DasEi: can I paste the results in PM?
[23:00] <ultra_violet> PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: command not found
[23:00] <Gnea> Captcha: then please keep your chatter down so that people with real problems can be helped.
[23:00] <ultra_violet> thats what i got
[23:00] <B3z3rk3r> rafting: why rafting? why?   :P
[23:00] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:why ? just give the url
[23:00] <tim> man this is life saver , just found this thing , been on 3 months    coool
[23:00] <eternaljoy> DasEi: it didnt give an URL
[23:00] <aboucher> anyone know a good text editor
[23:00] <eternaljoy> DasEi: see your PM windows
[23:00] <rafting> I'm really tired at this. I can't get my wireless card to work. Should I have to reconfigure my modem and router? The network is detected but I can't authenticate, I'm positive I'm giving the correct authentification-password. I am using Windows Vista(32 bit OS) and Ubuntu 8.10. realTek wireless card.
[23:00] <`olly> gnea: www.pastebin.ca/128114
[23:00] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo lshw | pastebinit
[23:00] <eternaljoy> DasEi: Error no arguments specified!
[23:01] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo lshw > pastebinit
[23:01] <eternaljoy> DasEi: same thing.
[23:01] <roger_> aboucher what text format you wanting to edit
[23:01] <aboucher> html and javascript
[23:01] <King_Of_Worms> ActionParsnip, the command worked, but I accidentally used the wrong path, is there anyway I can undo it? :(
[23:01] <eternaljoy> sudo lshw > pastebinit   gave NO results at all
[23:01] <roger_> use screemer
[23:01] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo lshw > lsh.txt && pastebinit lsh.txt && rm lsh.txt
[23:01] <rww> aboucher: the text editor that comes with GNOME is pretty good: gedit, or Accessories > Text Editor. For command line, look at nano, vi, and emacs.
[23:02] <roger_> sceem is html editor
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> tim: cedega is paid for software, wine is free
[23:02] <tim> unlug lug back in lol
[23:02] <rww> !editor | aboucher: a more full list:
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> rafting: try ndiswrapper
[23:02] <`olly> gnea: www.pastebin.ca/128114
[23:02] <eternaljoy> DasEi: shall I trry:  sudo lshw | pastebinit
[23:02] <roger_> gphpedit is good for html also
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: use rm to delete the link then recreate
[23:03] <mariansan1986> finaly
[23:03] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: I gave you above, nor ? yes,please
[23:03] <mariansan1986> hello everyone
[23:03] <maxsoftAlt> tyuty
[23:03] <LoRez> bluetooth range based screen locker?
[23:03] <tim> hi
[23:03] <B3z3rk3r> im out
[23:03] <eternaljoy> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f2eb60f03
[23:03] <B3z3rk3r> later all
[23:03] <Captcha> ...
[23:04] <Gnea> `olly: Sorry, an error has occurred. Reason: That is an invalid ID, or the post has expired.
[23:04] <King_Of_Worms> ActionParsnip, will that remove an of the files or just the link?
[23:04] <`olly> one sec
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: only the link
[23:04] <eternaljoy> DasEi: sudo lshw > lsh.txt && pastebinit lsh.txt && rm lsh.txt  worked.....  http://pastebin.com/f2eb60f03
[23:04] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: so rom is found,   next : pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:05] <`olly> GNEA: http://pastebin.com/m1110cdf6
[23:05] <`olly> try a different paste bin :D
[23:05] <mariansan1986> can someone help me with a small problem with ubuntu?
[23:05] <eternaljoy> DasEi: what?
[23:05] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:05] <eternaljoy> DasEi: I type: pastebinit /var/log/syslog ?
[23:06] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  yes
[23:06] <eternaljoy> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f40b2aaab
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> !anybody | mariansan1986
[23:06] <Gnea> `olly: are you able to install the pastebinit program?
[23:06] <`olly> sure
[23:07] <`olly> how i do it ??
[23:07] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: strange, no errors, too
[23:07] <Gnea> `olly: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:07] <eternaljoy> DasEi: so what I do now?
[23:07] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc && sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:07] <sadam> udev appears to be auto-mounting removable media as root.root.  any thoughts on fixing it?
[23:08] <King_Of_Worms> awesome :) Thanks again ActionParsnip
[23:08] <eternaljoy> DasEi: ok
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: you have now learned about symlinks
[23:08] <jrib> sadam: what filesystem?
[23:08] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: try again starting vlc, open media > scd0
[23:08] <King_Of_Worms> Hooray for Learning :)
[23:08] <SwiftIRC298> gnea
[23:09] <sadam> jrib: vfat
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> King_Of_Worms: you'll learn more later :)
[23:09] <jrib> sadam: what ubuntu version?
[23:09] <eternaljoy> DasEi: where in VLC do I tell it to open " scd0 ?
[23:09] <sadam> 8.10
[23:09] <Gnea> ``olly: did you figure it out?
[23:09] <``olly> how do i install the pastebinit program
[23:09] <almark> Hello, where can I get a menu.lst for grub in Ubuntu 8.10, I opted to install Ubuntu without a bootloader because I wanted to use Gentoo's grub loader, what do I need to do?
[23:09] <rww> ``olly: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:09] <``olly> cheers
[23:09] <jrib> sadam: that doesn't happen by default.  Can you think of any changes you have made to cause that?
[23:09] <Gnea> ``olly: in a terminal type this:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:09] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: first tab in the top, open medium
[23:10] <mariansan1986> ok so i couldn't boot from the cd and i used the help me boot from the cd. I then installed ubuntu but it deosn't boot it only starts as the live cd
[23:10] <eternaljoy> DasEi: DVDRead could not open the disk "/dev/scd0"
[23:10] <``olly> installing....
[23:10] <``olly> done
[23:10] <``olly> now what gnea?
[23:10] <sadam> jrib: it's happened since I upgraded to ibex from hardy.  I can't even find where in the udev rules the permissions are set
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: whats the output of: file /dev/scd0
[23:10] <eternaljoy> DasEi: same error :(
[23:10] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: there's sth in the out from lshw: it says status=nodisc
[23:11] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: brb
[23:11] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: /dev/scd0: block special
[23:11] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: you said you put a written dvd in ?
[23:11] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes, and it used to work
[23:12] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip & DasEi any more ideas pls?
[23:12] <almark> When I installed Ubuntu 8.10 I didn't use the grub that comes with it. So I have no menu.lst and dont' know how to set one up I want to append Ubuntu onto, my existing Gentoo menu.lst
[23:12] <eternaljoy> DasEi: it used to appear on the desktop when I inserted a DVD
[23:13] <eternaljoy> is there a way to install Ubuntu 8.10 with inode 128 and not inode 256?  Maybe I need to reinstall
[23:13] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: looks like the switch of the cd for signaling disk in is broken, yould you try if you can boot from that drive (live cd ?) to exclude a mechanical failure ?
[23:13] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes it works booting from it
[23:13] <eternaljoy> DasEi: tried that
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> !grub | almark
[23:13] <eternaljoy> DasEi: something in Ubuntu broke
[23:13] <``olly> gnea?
[23:13] <eternaljoy> DasEi: since the kernel upgrade
[23:13] <jrib> sadam: see what happens with a fresh new user
[23:13] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[23:14] <eternaljoy> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f7240fd8d
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> hi all. would anyone like a little snowy christmas with santa's sleigh in your x windows? i have fixed up the Makefile for the very old xsnow program if you want it! won't work with all window managers tho. won't work with kde nor xfce and i'll bet not in compiz either. xsnow be very old but it's still a great X amusement for this time of year!
[23:14] <sadam> jrib: should switching to the guest user via FUSA be sufficient?
[23:15] <jrib> sadam: sure
[23:15] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: sudo mount -a
[23:15] <almark> :ubottu I have grub installed already in this disk, I want to use my Gentoo grub that is already installed, but I don't know what to add in the menu.lst to load ubuntu, there are all kinds of things to load in Ubuntu in the boot dir, I need an example file, do you know where I could view a default Ubuntu grub menu.lst on the web for Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:15] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd
[23:15] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd /media/dcrom0
[23:15] <eternaljoy> DasEi: what?
[23:15] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  ls
[23:16] <eternaljoy> DasEi: what I type fiorst? :P
[23:16] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  cmd after cmd
[23:16] <eternaljoy> DasEi: im confused... i typed  sudo mount -a  now what?
[23:16] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd
[23:16] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd /media/dcrom0
[23:16] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  ls
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> almark: that guide will help you identify the disk for grub and yuo can add an entry
[23:16] <DasEi> files there ?
[23:17] <scotlfs> !usb
[23:17] <eternaljoy> DasEi:bash: cd: /media/dcrom0: No such file or directory
[23:17] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  damn, cdrom0
[23:17] <hackwins> DasEi:cd /dev/cdrom0
[23:17] <DasEi> why<
[23:17] <DasEi> yes
[23:18] <eternaljoy> DasEi: i may need to reinstall ubuntu :(
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> hackwins: you can't cd to block devices like that, they must be mounted, then the mountpoint is used to enter it
[23:18] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  did you cd to /media/cdrom0 ?
[23:18] <Gnea> `olly: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:18] <eternaljoy> DasEi: yes, it said:  cd: /media/dcrom0: No such file or directory
[23:18] <hackwins> ok
[23:19] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:  cdrom0, not dcrom0
[23:19] <eternaljoy> DasEi: I typed: cd to /media/cdrom0
[23:19] <almostdvs> commands to 1. list all installed kernels  2. remove any of the kernels
[23:19] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd  /media/cdrom0
[23:19] <eternaljoy> DasEi: bash: cd: to: No such file or directory
[23:19] <graft> eternaljoy: ls /media
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom0
[23:20] <eternaljoy> DasEi: theres a white arrow on the cdrom folder
[23:20] <Orios> hello
[23:20] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: its been done
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: then sudo mount -a
[23:20] <sadam> jrib: same result
[23:20] <Orios> does anyone know mych about ubuntu and nvidia drivers?
[23:20] <haroldp> I can't seem to get a wireless connection.  where can I look for troubleshooting info?
[23:20] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/cdrom0': File exists
[23:20] <diego``> gn8 zamm
[23:20] <vladtsepesh1984>  i'm having problem syncing 2way with synce and opensync....i can only sync from evol to ppc with evo2sync....how should i do???????please help me
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: ok well thats a good thing
[23:20] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `then'
[23:20] <jrib> sadam: pastebin the output of 'mount' and 'ls -ld /mount/point'
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: sudo mount -a
[23:21] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd
[23:21] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd  /media/cdrom0
[23:21] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: ls
[23:21] <kattollikisd> ﻿Hi I have a problem with my internet connection, the firefox say that the network is not found, but I talk already with the company of my internet... they told me that the connection is good with the computer but there is a host or a post that is block, how can I fix this? or Unblock this?
[23:21] <DasEi> files?
[23:21] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: ok I typed: sudo mount -a
[23:21] <eternaljoy> * aneqrs has quit ()
[23:21] <vladtsepesh1984> problema nell'uso di synce e opensync....riesco a sincronizzare i contatti solo da evol al ppc e non dal ppc ad evol...comep osso fare????? vi supplico aiutatemi
[23:21] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: after sudo mount -a  now what?
[23:21] <Orios> no?
[23:21] <georgy_28> !it
[23:21] <almark> thanks :ActionParsnip
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: cd /media/cdrom0 && ls -a
[23:21] <eternaljoy> DasEi: ls is empty
[23:22] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: I typed: cd /media/cdrom0 && ls -a
[23:22] <ingo86> hi all, is there someone that could give me an advice about a good dvb-t and analogue tv tuner card that works out of the box with ubuntu and mythtv?
[23:22] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: mount | pastebinit
[23:22] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: empty directory
[23:22] <eternaljoy> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f3c92fa84
[23:23] <fallore> My firefox window is giving me a lot of trouble. When I open it is is maximized full screen (an on top of the top and bottom panel) and missing the title bar containing the minimize, maximize and close buttons. All methods of resizing it (Alt + Shift, Alt + Click, etc) that I've tried thus far have failed. Can anyone help me restore my FF back to normal?
[23:23] <sadam> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1281173
[23:23] <DasEi>  eternaljoy: cd not mounted
[23:23] <eternaljoy> DasEi: ok, so now what?
[23:23] <jrib> sadam: I meant the actual mount point, looks like it is /media/disk
[23:23] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[23:24] <eternaljoy> DasEi: done, now?
[23:24] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:change noauto to aouto in the cdrom line
[23:24] <eternaljoy> ok brb
[23:24] <scotlfs> fallore: try pressing F11
[23:24] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:* auto
[23:24] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:SAVE fstab
[23:24] <eternaljoy> DasEi: done
[23:24] <eternaljoy> saved
[23:24] <_cb> After upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 am having some problems and am thinking about doing a clean install.
[23:24] <_cb> I only care about being able to restore evolution settings and mail. What is the best way to do that?
[23:24] <eternaljoy> DasEi: now?
[23:24] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:25] <jrib> sadam: are you running gnome?
[23:25] <almostdvs> command to remove old kernel?
[23:25] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:then do a reboot
[23:25] <sadam> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1281176, yes I'm running gnome
[23:25] <eternaljoy> DasEi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  = done
[23:25] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:then do a reboot
[23:25] <eternaljoy> DasEi: ok rebooting brb
[23:25] <DasEi> ..
[23:25] <jrib> sadam: gconftool-2 -g /system/storage/default_options/vfat/mount_options
[23:26] <sadam> jrib: No value set for `/system/storage/default_options/vfat/mount_options'
[23:26] <ibtissem> i need help
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> sup ibtissem
[23:27] <ibtissem> im new on ubuntu so i have some issues to adapt
[23:27] <jrib> sadam: is this on the guest?
[23:27] <vladtsepesh1984> pleeeeeeeeese help me....i cant sync ppc to evol but only evol to ppc with synce and opensync....help me!!
[23:27] <Funes> .
[23:27] <sadam> no, my user, let me check the guest
[23:27] <heret1c> Does anyone use gmobilemedia?
[23:27] <Orios> does anyone know much about ubuntu and nvidia cards?
[23:27] <ibtissem> i  install video codecs before installin audio codecs , thats why when i run a ong
[23:28] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: its strange, eternaljoy can't watch dvd nomore, syslog= fine, but lshw with dvd in says status=nodisc, but he says he can boot from drive (no faulty rom-switch then)... strange
[23:28] <ibtissem> song** i dont have voice
[23:28] <ibtissem> Excuse my english
[23:28] <nnull> guys im trying to get my 64meg tnt ultra pro working on my TV, im using the nvidia legacy drivers, but whenever i try use the card on my tv, once it boots into login screen the screen is morphed and theres no mouse, and max is 60hertz.. any help?
[23:28] <haroldp> I'm not seeing any errors when i set up my wifi, but pings to the router IP return "no route to host"
[23:28] <almark> Does Ubuntu create menu.lst automatically, I didn't install Ubuntu bootloader so I don't have the ubuntu menu.lst All I want is the Ubuntu menu.lst, So I know what to type in my Gentoo one.
[23:28] <albert_fish> hi imhaving problems installing grub while on a live cd,the standered directions are not working .
[23:28] <Orios> everytime i install the restricted drivers for my 3d card, i have to reboot but i only get a blank screen
[23:29] <heret1c> I have a permissions issue w. gmobimemedia which I cannot resolve.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: could try running it as sudo, just to test
[23:29] <eternaljoy> DasEi: imback.  still doesnt read the DVD :(  any other ideas?
[23:30] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: the dvd-rom ddin't mount
[23:30] <sadam> jrib: it doesn't exist there either
[23:30] <kattollikisd> ﻿Hi I have a problem with my internet connection, the firefox say that the network is not found, but I talk already with the company of my internet... they told me that the connection is good with the computer but there is a host or a post that is block, how can I fix this? or Unblock this?
[23:30] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:mount | pastebinit
[23:30] <rafting> ActionParship: ndiswrapper doesnt work for vista drivers i think?
[23:30] <eternaljoy> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f1c9e7cd2
[23:31] <jrib> sadam: weird.  Here I have it set to: [shortname=mixed,utf8,umask=077,exec,flush,uid=]
[23:31] <almark> Is there anyway to keep ubuntu from overwriting my gentoo grub  loader? That is what this is all about, I don't want it to overwrite my Gentoo grub MBR.
[23:31] <eternaljoy> DasEi: it doesnt look like its mounted does it?
[23:31] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:nope
[23:31] <nDuff> almark, why not? Just add a menu option to your new ubuntu grub.conf to have it load your gentoo grub.conf
[23:32] <eternaljoy> DasEi: but fstab says: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,auto,exec,utf8 0
[23:32] <nDuff> almark, ...or go in and switch it to work the other way 'round after the install is done.
[23:32] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:muharr
[23:32] <eternaljoy> DasEi: reinstall Ubuntu is only answer u think? :(
[23:32] <nDuff> almark, ...heck, set up each of the grub.conf files to have a menu item to load the other OS's one, then it doesn't matter which one is default.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: try: sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[23:33] <heret1c> the whole permissions/groups system in ubuntu is not userfriendly - on a single-user system, it's a form of mawkish auntyness to deny the user access to his own bloody mobile!!!
[23:33] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: that command says: mount: No medium found
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> almark: you could just edit the menu.lst file in your gentoo system
[23:33] <\slash> what do u guys recommend for torrent dls?
[23:33] <almark> :nDuff I have installed Ubuntu, but I didn't install the ubuntu grubloader, I just wanted to used Gentoos but if its this much trouble man I'll just install over it with Ubuntu grub loader
[23:33] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:it all seems like the switch inside the cdrom isn't recocnized properly, but you can in this (new) state boot a cd ??
[23:33] <vladtsepesh1984> somebody can help me using synce???
[23:33] <agoole> I did sudo apt-get remove firefox, but its still there, how do I remove it and reset all settings ?
[23:33] <KevinJohnson> \slash, I use Transmisson (sudo apt-get install transmission)
[23:33] <sadam> jrib: setting that key didn't help
[23:33] <eternaljoy> DasEi: (new) state boot a cd ??
[23:34] <Octoroks> i got a newb question :)
[23:34] <\slash> awesome i'll try it kevin
[23:34] <jrib> sadam: you unmounted and unplugged your key and plugged it back in?
[23:34] <\slash> thanks
[23:34] <eternaljoy> agoole: mozilla-firefox ?
[23:34] <ninulkin> здесь русско язычные есть?
[23:34] <Ratchet--> ok so
[23:34] <almark> :onetinsoldier that is what I want to do, but don't know what to type Ubuntu is different then Gentoo I dont know what ot type in menu.lst I need exacts.
[23:34] <eternaljoy> ninulkin: :P
[23:34] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:did you try a boot since this prob occurred ?
[23:34] <JohnRobert> #category5.tv , mark shuttleworth live on category5 technology tv (in half an hour) if anyone's interested.
[23:34] <agoole> eternaljoy: haha, i'm stupid,
[23:34] <Ratchet--> I need to know if you can resize/delete partitions
[23:34] <Ratchet--> after installed
[23:34] <Octoroks> How do you add and remove workspaces?
[23:34] <nDuff> almark, as I was saying, you can tell the Ubuntu grub to load the Grub grub's configuration file, so all the Gentoo items will be in its menu, (and visa-versa), so I'm not sure why it matters which bootloader is actually current.
[23:34] <eternaljoy> DasEi: boot?  i just rebooted yes
[23:34] <eternaljoy> agoole: :P
[23:34] <Ratchet--> Octoroks: Right click and properties
[23:34] <sadam> jrib: I just fixed some trouble I was having with nautilus drawing the background properly by finding an undocumented gconf key and setting it.  Is there a way to reinitialize my gconf store?
[23:34] <JohnRobert> sorry, #category5
[23:34] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:boot cd
[23:34] <nDuff> Ratchet--, it's possible, yes; easier when booted from CD.
[23:34] <eternaljoy> agoole: you are not stupid
[23:34] <JohnRobert> #category5 , mark shuttleworth live on category5 technology tv (in half an hour) if anyone's interested.
[23:34] <JohnRobert> :D
[23:34] <jesus_loves_you> Ratchet--: yeah you can resize/delete with the livecd and gparted.
[23:34] <Octoroks> ratchet--, thank you
[23:34] <almark> :nDuff I can't get into Ubuntu my menu.lst doens't know where it is.
[23:34] <sadam> jrib: yes
[23:34] <agoole> eternaljoy: argh, says its not installed ?
[23:34] <eternaljoy> DasEi: u want me to try to boot a CD?
[23:35] <kattollikisd> ﻿Hi I have a problem with my internet connection, the firefox say that the network is not found, but I talk already with the company of my internet... they told me that the connection is good with the computer but there is a host or a post that is block, how can I fix this? or Unblock this?
[23:35] <agoole> eternaljoy: but I can still open it
[23:35] <jesus_loves_you> !fixgrub | almark
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Octoroks: right click in the worspace preview thingy and go from there
[23:35] <Ratchet--> Even after installed?
[23:35] <eternaljoy> agoole: use Synaptic and search for firefox and remove?
[23:35] <agoole> eternaljoy: firefox is really buggy, so I can just to do a clean install...
[23:35] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:yes, to make sure it's not a mechanical drive failure
[23:35] <nnull> guys im trying to get my 64meg tnt ultra pro working on my TV, im using the nvidia legacy drivers, but whenever i try use the card on my tv, once it boots into login screen the screen is morphed and theres no mouse, and max is 60hertz.. any help?
[23:35] <jesus_loves_you> kattollikisd: can you ping your router
[23:35] <eternaljoy> DasEi: ok ill try thanks.
[23:35] <eternaljoy> bbl
[23:35] <almark> I have read that ulr thanks ubottu, but didnt tell me the answer.
[23:35] <jesus_loves_you> agoole: you can remove and reinstall firefox with   sudo apt-get remove--purge firefox && apt-get install firefox
[23:35] <nDuff> almark, so add a menu option to the menu.lst that *is* loaded that does "config (hd1,0)/grub/menu.lst", adjusted to point to the other one
[23:35] <jrib> sadam: you could recursively unset all your gconf keys, or just mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.backup and logout and back in
[23:36] <eternaljoy> DasEi: btw , if I need to reinstall Ubuntu 8;10, how I install it using inode 128 instead of inode 256?
[23:36] <Ratchet--> nDuff: jesus_loves_you Even after I installed Ubuntu already?
[23:36] <DasEi> almark: see:
[23:36] <DasEi> !bot
[23:36] <nDuff> Ratchet--, yes.
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> almark: it's ok that the tow are different. i did this same type of thing recently. have a linux on one drive, went and purchased another drive and installed linux on it. i did not want the grub that was already installed in my mbr to be overwritten. so i just edited my menu.lst file to add the new linux installation
[23:36] <Ratchet--> nDuff: I pop the CD in, then what?
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> two*
[23:36] <nDuff> Ratchet--, see parted, gparted, and friends.
[23:36] <eternaljoy> how can I install 8.10 using inode 128 instead of inode 256?
[23:36] <agoole> jesus_loves_you: is there a space ? remove --purge or can I just use purge ? like sudo apt-get purge firefox ?
[23:36] <nDuff> Ratchet--, googling gparted should give you anything/everything you need.
[23:37] <nDuff> Ratchet--, ...maybe "gparted ubuntu" to get more targeted results.
[23:37] <eternaljoy> !inode
[23:37] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: why do you want to mess with inodes
[23:37] <Ratchet--> nDuff: So I download gparted on <windows or ubuntu> then put it in a CD and boot it?
[23:37] <nDuff> eternaljoy, pardon? Are you asking about the inode-to-block-count ratio?
[23:38] <eternaljoy> jesus_loves_you: because I use Acronis Trueimage and it can only backup inode 128 and doesnt support inode 256
[23:38] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:check the drive first, why changing inode ?
[23:38] <Scunizi> Ratchet--: what are you trying to do? why do you need a seperate copy of gparted?
[23:38] <eternaljoy> DasEi: because I use Acronis Trueimage and it can only backup inode 128 and doesnt support inode 256
[23:38] <jesus_loves_you> agoole: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox
[23:38] <Ratchet--> Scunizi: i am trying to delete a partition and add the space that i am going to delete to ubuntu partition
[23:38] <jesus_loves_you> agoole: just like I typed it to you
[23:38] <eternaljoy> is there a way to install 8.10 using inode 128?   previous versions uses inode 128, but 8.10 uses inode 256
[23:38] <jesus_loves_you> Ratchet--: boot into the livecd and run gparted
[23:38] <nDuff> Ratchet--, I would expect the Ubuntu Live CD to have parted, gparted, or kparted
[23:38] <agoole> jesus_loves_you: ok thanks,
[23:39] <onetinsoldier> almark: i can't give you the exact lines you will need to edit into your current gentoo menu.lst. i could perhaps give you examples from mine own menu.lst to give you and idea tho
[23:39] <Ratchet--> nDuff: Okay I'll try. Brb.
[23:39] <agoole> jesus_loves_you: this should get rid of all the config files as well right ?
[23:39] <jesus_loves_you> almark: pastebin your menu.lst
[23:39] <eternaljoy> Acronis Trueimage and Ghost dont recognise inode 256, hence unable to backup partitions to image
[23:39] <jesus_loves_you> agoole: --purge yes
[23:39] <Scunizi> Ratchet--: so is ubuntu installed currently? if so then boot the live cd and go to System>Admin>Partition Manager (that's gparted built in)
[23:39] <gbear14275> anyone here familiar with using RAM as a disk cache?
[23:39] <agoole> jesus_loves_you: perfect thank you
[23:39] <almark>  http://rafb.net/p/aCUZR844.html
[23:39] <eternaljoy> anyone know? :)
[23:40] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: I don't think that is quite true... we have acronis and ghost...
[23:40] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: anyways you shouldn't be messing with inodes really
[23:40] <nDuff> eternaljoy, what "inode 256" means to me, with no other context, is an inode on your hard drive with inode number 256. I don't think that's what you want to communicate.
[23:40] <Scunizi> eternaljoy: you might look at "partimage" .. a free alternative to Ghost and doesn't care about the inode
[23:40] <nDuff> eternaljoy, if you're referring to an ext3 tunable, there's probably a different name for it.
[23:40] <DasEi>  eternaljoy:it's to much hassle to me, I'd use dd or tar , maybe rsync for backups, but test your drive first....
[23:40] <eternaljoy> jesus_loves_you: its true and I asked Acronis whpo confirmed it.  It can backup, but only sector by sector, because inode 256 isnt supported yet
[23:41] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: sorry this is foreign to me.    ghost4unix will do a bit by bit copy of your disk.  that's waht we use
[23:41] <jesus_loves_you> doesn't matter what filesystme
[23:41] <jesus_loves_you> or no filesystem at all
[23:41] <wigren> Hi all. Has any one noticed security updates being commented out after a fresh install of 8.04? I just installed and my sources.lst looked like this: http://pastebin.com/m25bf8781 It now looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m438e9163 But is that seems like a major security concern.
[23:41] <mastershihochief> http://i38.tinypic.com/qn6w4z.jpg<<<my problem; http://i33.tinypic.com/2rgnxw7.jpg<<< What it is when that tab isnt active
[23:41] <nDuff> eternaljoy, what's the tune2fs flag associated with this "inode 256" setting?
[23:41] <eternaljoy> jesus_loves_you: I dont want a sector by sector or bit by bit, backing up 1 Terabyte HDD
[23:42] <almark> :jesus_loves_you If you didn't see this here it is again my menu.lst  http://rafb.net/p/aCUZR844.html
[23:42] <exodus_ms> eternaljoy, Partition Image or clonezilla can handle with 256-byte Inodes
[23:42] <jesus_loves_you> almark: I missed it hold on
[23:42] <nDuff> eternaljoy, better yet, do the folks who make this backup product have a knowledge base article you can link us to?
[23:42] <eternaljoy> nDuff: an inode is a data structure  and 8.10 uses inode 256, but previous versions use inode 128
[23:42] <eternaljoy> exodus_ms: i have Acronis which I use and paid for/.
[23:42] <eternaljoy> ok seems I need to instyall 8.04
[23:43] <eternaljoy> where can I get Ubuntu 8.04?
[23:43] <nDuff> eternaljoy, I know *exactly* what an inode is, probably better than you do. Filesystems have room for as many inodes as they can store files, which is why "inode 256" or "inode 128" makes very little sense.
[23:43] <jesus_loves_you> almark: ok that is pretty straightforward.  now pastebin your ubuntu menu.lst
[23:43] <exodus_ms> !download
[23:43] <eternaljoy> nDuff: no need to be so condescending :(
[23:43] <nDuff> eternaljoy, "256-bit inodes" makes sense. "inode 256" does not.
[23:43] <jesus_loves_you> nDuff: cmon you can make that leap of faith
[23:43] <rafting> is ndiswrapper in the bootloader or it hs to be downloaded separately?
[23:43] <almark> :jesus_loves_you lol man that is my problem I don't have one.
[23:43] <eternaljoy> suffice to say... 8.04 backs up using Acronis,, 8.10 doesnt, because they use different inodes
[23:43] <anto9us> eternaljoy, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[23:44] <eternaljoy> anto9us: ty
[23:44] <eternaljoy> if I install 8.04, do Ubuntu still release secutiry updates for 8.04?
[23:44] <exodus_ms> eternaljoy, there is another link above... :)
[23:44] <Ratchet--> nDuff: Where on the CD do i findthis-.-
[23:44] <almark> :jesus_loves_you when I installed Ubuntu, I made sure it would not overwrite my Gentoo MBR so I check do not install bootloader no bootloader no Ubuntu menu.lst
[23:44] <anto9us> eternaljoy, yes, it's LTS (long term support)
[23:44] <Ratchet--> nDuff: when I boot it I see nothing to do with gparted
[23:45] <Sweetandy> the PPC alternate install disc couldn't detect my CD drive *after* starting installation *from* the CD drive. Ah well. 'Nutha reason to stick with Debian 8 /
[23:45] <eternaljoy> exodus_ms: ty :)
[23:45] <tankpunk> hi all
[23:45] <eternaljoy> anto9us: cheers :)
[23:45] <nDuff> Ratchet--, once you're booted up and at the command line, is gparted an available command?
[23:45] <exodus_ms> !hi
[23:45] <nDuff> Ratchet--, ...or kparted, or just parted?
[23:45] <tankpunk> !hi
[23:45] <eternaljoy> I will install 8.04 then, that way I can still make Acronis Trueimage backup images
[23:45] <Ratchet--> nDuff: I boot the live CD and there's the list of things to do, Install ubuntu, test without installing etc
[23:45] <nDuff> Ratchet--, right; you want to select "test without installing"
[23:46] <jesus_loves_you> nDuff,  eternaljoy,  reference this:  http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-release.html#1.40.5
[23:46] <exodus_ms> eternaljoy, you can use 8.10 with free backup utilites that can handle 256 inodes
[23:46] <Ratchet--> nDuff: k and after that then ?
[23:46] <jesus_loves_you> nDuff,  eternaljoy,  Mke2fs will now create new filesystems with 256 byte inodes and the ext_attr feature flag by default.
[23:46] <nDuff> jesus_loves_you, excellent; thanks.
[23:46] <eternaljoy> jesus_loves_you: Mke2fs will now create new filesystems with 256 byte inodes , but I want 128
[23:46] <lamouille> salut
[23:46] <almark> Does anyone have a default Ubuntu menu.lst  if you do could you please post it I need it thanks.
[23:46] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: what you want is a better backup solution :)
[23:46] <rafting> seriously is ndiswrapper always necessary or I can sometimes get away without it?
[23:46] <nDuff> eternaljoy, if you do the filesystem creation manually, you should be able to pass the appropriate flags to mke2fs
[23:46] <Scunizi> Ratchet--: if it's not under System>Admin>Partition manager then open a terminal and type .. sudo apt-get install gparted.. after install it will appear on the menu or you can start it with .. gparted
[23:46] <zimbres> What is the comand to format a pen-drive?
[23:47] <eternaljoy> jesus_loves_you: what I want is 8.10 using 128 inode :)
[23:47] <jesus_loves_you> almark: mine is here:  http://pastebin.com/f57a95839
[23:47] <exodus_ms> !wi > rafting
[23:47] <exodus_ms> !wifi rafting
[23:47] <almark> :jesus_loves_you thanks :)
[23:47] <rafting> can I download a correct driver for my card instead?
[23:47] <exodus_ms> forget it :)
[23:47] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: it seesm like you could use reiserfs and it would still be 128
[23:47] <nDuff> eternaljoy, ...ie. -O '^ext_attr' to turn off ext_attr, and "-I 128" to use 128-byte inodes
[23:47] <Octoroks> i try to extract a file to / and it says i don't have the pirmission to?
[23:48] <exodus_ms> sudo
[23:48] <fosco_> Octoroks: extract it to your home folder
[23:48] <qcjn> hi'i've changed something in the xorg.conf,in the section screen, defaultdepth. Now the graphic seems to work ok. Except that i don't now what i've done. And i really like to know ?
[23:48] <jrib> Octoroks: why would you want to extract to /?  What are you doing?
[23:48] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: you should be able to use the previous 8.04 or 7.10 live cd, format your drive, make the partitions, then install 8.10 and tell it do not format
[23:48] <nDuff> jesus_loves_you, seems like overkill; I don't know Ubuntu's partitioning UI during setup by heart, but Red Hat's had a field to type extra parameters for mke2fs for *ages*; I can't imagine something similar isn't available.
[23:48] <jrib> qcjn: man xorg.conf   and
[23:48] <jrib> !x > qcjn
[23:49] <fallore> My firefox window is giving me a lot of trouble. When I open it is is maximized full screen (an on top of the top and bottom panel) and missing the title bar containing the minimize, maximize and close buttons. All methods of resizing it (Alt + Shift, Alt + Click, F11, etc) that I've tried thus far have failed. Can anyone help me restore my FF back to normal?
[23:49] <Octoroks> jrib, why wouldn't i?
[23:49] <jrib> Octoroks: because that's the package manager's job
[23:49] <jabop> In evolution, if i read mail, it doesn't sync to other clients that have the same address (ex: iphone, gmail web iface). how can i enable this? ubuntu 8.10
[23:49] <almark> :jesus_loves_you that is a big menu.lst lol thanks again
[23:49] <nuts> hi, my acer aspire 5520 webcam no longer works, it was working fine when i first installed ibex.. i'm sure i have not uninstalled any cam drivers... but now all apps that uses cam gives me no cam found..
[23:50] <qcjn> htanks
[23:50] <zimbres> What is the comand to format a pen-drive?
[23:50] <jesus_loves_you> eternaljoy: so get a legit backup software.  if you're paying for acronis they should step up
[23:50] <jrib> zimbres: gparted
[23:51] <JohnRobert> #category5 , mark shuttleworth live on category5 technology tv (in 9 mins) if anyone's interested / www.category5.tv
[23:51] <anto9us> zimbres, use gparted, select the device and create a partition of using the filesystem you want, FAT32 is usual for pendrives as Windows et al. can read that natively
[23:51] <nnull> guys im trying to get my 64meg tnt ultra pro working on my TV, im using the nvidia legacy drivers, but whenever i try use the card on my tv, once it boots into login screen the screen is morphed and theres no mouse, and max is 60hertz.. any help?
[23:51] <jrib> JohnRobert: please don't do that
[23:52] <albert_fish> ﻿hi imhaving problems installing grub while on a live cd,the standered directions are not working .
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[23:55] <jesus_loves_you> net split ?
[23:55] <jesus_loves_you> it just got real quit in here
[23:55] <anto9us> albert_fish, as I recall, that can happen if it's not the first drive you're installing to, you have to explicitly tell it which drive to use and it's easy to miss that little prompt
[23:55] <zimbres> anto9us, I do not know the name of the device. Where do I find it.
[23:56] <mastershihochief> <<<needs x org help still XD
[23:57] <anto9us> zimbres, in gparted there's a dropdown box that lists the devices, it's probably the smallest one in that list.
[23:58] <Ratchet--> ok i got gparted
[23:58] <Ratchet--> hm?
[23:58] <Ratchet--> is this right room -.--
[23:58] <mastershihochief> lol
[23:58] <onetinsoldier> hi all. would anyone like a little snowy christmas with santa's sleigh in your x windows? i have fixed up the Makefile for the very old xsnow program if you want it! won't work with all window managers tho. won't work with kde nor xfce and i'll bet not in compiz either. xsnow be very old but it's still a great X amusement for this time of year!
[23:59] <Ratchet--> I need help deleting right partition
[23:59] <KevinJohnson> haha, yeah, Christmas coming...
[23:59] <eternaljoy> will 8.04 automatically pick up and mount DVD drives?
[23:59] <catmando> so, here's a question
[23:59] <onetinsoldier> yeah!
[23:59] <Ratchet--> Nduff:?
[23:59] <catmando> if I want to set up an encrypted LVM, do I created the encrypted volume first and the LVM in that