[00:05] <zoredache> retour: you will be more likely to get a better responce if you ask a question instead if simply stating what you are interested.  You should also consider looking in other channels.  mkudfs isn't really something that is going to be distro-specific
[00:19] <retour> zoredache: mkudffs is formating 4.7GB disk into 1.2GB beyond that - everything works
[02:56] <TibCeb> hey there
[04:27] <sill2> new to xubuntu. trying it out with wubi installer. how do I see (mount) my other drives/partitions ?
[06:29] <ballzee__> i was looking on the web and it said if you dual boot your a queer is that true ? i never got the chance to use windows but i was thinking some day i migh
[06:29] <ballzee__> might
[06:35] <ballzee__> must be a freak to use gnome
[07:31] <ballzee__> how can i run a program on the desktop as a differnt user
[07:49] <itai_michaelson> hi
[07:51] <itai_michaelson> hi- how do i install nvidia drivers in xfce?
[07:54] <knome> ballzee__, as root?
[08:47] <lebest> salu
[08:47] <lebest> xubuntu is slow in my pc i have a bad one
[08:52] <ballzee__> yes
[08:53] <ballzee__> i need to run bipim as root
[08:53] <ballzee__> holy shit you replyed an houre ago
[08:54] <ballzee__> sorry i was watching mr.brooks i like that movie
[08:55] <dnyy> That the one with the twist at the end involving his daughter? ;o
[08:57] <ballzee__> yeah
[08:57] <ballzee__>  in his dream
[08:58] <ballzee__> i dont know if i think hes good in it because its a subject i like or hes good in it
[12:03] <generalsnus> we have some problems installing skolelinux here, we are installing "ftp.skolelinux.org/cd-lenny-test-dvd/debian-edu-amd64-i386-DVD-1.iso" and we are behind a proxy, but wehen the install gets to "installing applications" it just ends..with no obvious error.. im guessing it tries to connect to the net.. but it has no proxy settings yet.. what can we do?
[12:10] <TheSheep> !xubuntu
[15:21] <izinucs> I just added a second panel to the desktop along with some items on the panel.  Panel 1 allows me to move items on it to the position I want. Panel 2 seems to left justify anything I add.. how do I fix this?
[15:22] <izinucs> did I actually post??? no time stamp and an extra space between my post and the last message.. weird
[15:23] <ball> izinucs: yes, you asked about moving items on a panel
[15:23] <ball> ...if nobody here knows, there's also #xfce
[15:23] <izinucs> yes..
[15:23] <izinucs> k.. thanks..
[17:49] <tomwrok> somehow the fontsize in my XFCE depends on the resolution i have set when logging in. when i increase the desktop resolution the font is smaller than when i login again with the same resolution. i guess that is some kind of feature. does anybody know what i mean/how i can turn this off?
[17:50] <knome> well for me it sounds it's a bug.
[19:21] <Demios> hmm having a problem configuring my sudoers
[19:21] <Demios> i have "myusername ALL=(ALL)
[19:21] <Demios> "
[19:22] <Demios> trying to make it
[19:22] <Demios> i have "myusername ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/somedirectory"
[19:23] <Demios> but everything from NOPASSWD on is in white and not color coded, that can't be right. And when I try to write out, it tells me there is an error on said line
[19:38] <ig0r1> Hello everybody!
[19:40] <ig0r1> does anybody know how can I check if my videocard drivers are installed in xubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:46] <Aizawa> Alright, this might not be entirely on-topic and the answer might be obvious, but is there some way to make a new, empty partition from a full install of linux?
[19:48] <Aizawa> Like I have one partition now, that fills up my entire hard drive. I would like to make a new partition so I can install another OS on it.
[20:11] <Constrabus> Does the 8.10 xubuntu install CD's kernel have etx4 support?
[20:11] <Constrabus> ext4**
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> i think so, i'm not sure, though. see if it one of the options...
[20:20] <charlie-tca> Aizawa: Yes, there is a way. Use a livecd. At the desktop, choose Applications -> System -> Partition Editor
[20:20] <charlie-tca> Make sure no partitions are mounted, then resize the partition and create another one
[20:25] <Aizawa> Oh, alright
[20:30] <zoredache> you can look in /proc/filesystems to see if the kernel supports ext4, that doesn't mean all the ext4 tools would be installed though
[20:31] <Aizawa> I'm really not an advanced user >.>
[20:31] <Aizawa> I'll go for the easy way
[20:31] <Aizawa> Thanks guys
[20:33] <roosterizer> Hey gang!
[20:33] <roosterizer> I think my system is in big trouble, looking for some assistance :S
[20:35] <roosterizer> Few days ago, there was this update regarding some HAL-package (which I assume is the culprit here) and since that update, I'm unable to give any peripheral input to X (or something)
[20:35] <roosterizer> I can't type anything at GDM login screen but the ctrl, caps keys etc still work
[20:36] <roosterizer> So I go Ctrl+Alt+F1 and log in that way, which works, then kill GDM, run 'startx' and I get to my desktop, but again. No input is registered. Not the touchpad either (laptop)
[20:54] <roosterizer> Anybody present?
[20:54] <gabkdlly> hi
[20:54] <roosterizer> hey!
[20:55] <roosterizer> Are you here for help as well as I am or do you think you could help me? :)
[20:55] <gabkdlly> roosterizer: pretty much all of the X.org configuration has been moved to HAL recently
[20:56] <roosterizer> ok
[20:56] <roosterizer> so if HAL screws up, X is screwed. :-|
[20:56] <gabkdlly> roosterizer: still, you probably can configure your keyboard and mouse in the xorg.conf manually
[20:56] <gabkdlly> pretty much
[20:57] <roosterizer> oh alright! that's good news
[20:57] <gabkdlly> if you still have an old xorg.conf from a previous install laying around, you might just try that
[20:58] <roosterizer> hm. I'll see what I can find...
[20:58] <roosterizer> Dang. Afraid there's no such file in sight (/etc/X11/ right?)
[20:59] <gabkdlly> yes
[20:59] <gabkdlly> !xorg
[20:59] <gabkdlly> that link might have something to help you
[21:00] <roosterizer> Thanks, I'll check it right away! I hope it will render well in elinks. :D...
[21:04] <gabkdlly> it really sounds like you might have found a bug, and it is probably worth reporting on launchpad
[21:05] <roosterizer> yeah, it feels like it's just big fat regression
[21:05] <roosterizer> "just a"
[21:06] <roosterizer> I might just go there and see if I can file a bug with a text-based browser. :)
[21:07] <roosterizer> But if it's a bug, I really hope there will be a fixing upgrade soon, because as it is now, I have to hardcore-terminal this baby completely :)
[21:08] <gabkdlly> the old way of configuring your xorg.conf was with dpkg-reconfigure
[21:08] <gabkdlly> but I don't know what that will do now that HAL is all up in there
[21:09] <roosterizer> I guess I could try?
[21:09] <roosterizer> Is the input trivial or? Something like "dpkg-reconfigure xorg"?
[21:10] <gabkdlly> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:10] <gabkdlly> I think that is what you want
[21:10] <gabkdlly> if I remember correctly
[21:11] <charlie-tca> roosterizer: you might want to look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution
[21:11] <roosterizer> alrighty
[21:12] <gabkdlly> sorry, I can't seem to find a better link :(
[21:12] <gabkdlly> there must be some documentation out there somewhere on how to manually configure X post-HAL
[21:15] <roosterizer> I just ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and restarted GDM but there wasn't much change to the behavior (none at all aamof :)
[21:15] <Azag> hi
[21:15] <Azag> xubuntu use compiz or metacity?
[21:16] <charlie-tca> Azag: I think metacity by default, compiz if you install it
[21:16] <Azag> ok
[21:16] <roosterizer> charlie-tca: I didn't read the whole page there but, I'm not having problems with the resolution; I cannot input anything using the keyboard or the mouse in X
[21:17] <charlie-tca> Have you tried the debugging procedures?
[21:18] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[21:18] <roosterizer> I don't know of any :-/
[21:18] <charlie-tca> the link has them, Hardware
[21:18] <roosterizer> alrighty
[21:32] <roosterizer> charlie-tca: Oh, so all that info is on how to file bugs? :)
[21:41] <roosterizer> gabkdlly & charlie-tca: I have to get outta here, but thanks guys, for all the help. I appreciate it a lot :) Peace out!
[21:42] <gabkdlly> cheers
[21:42] <gabkdlly> you might also try the forum
[21:42] <roosterizer> Yeah I'm gonna try there once I get to a decent GUI so I can run a decent browser ;)
[21:43] <charlie-tca> roosterizer: yes, that is for filing the bug; also works to try to fix things.
[21:44] <roosterizer> Okie doke! Gonna look more into that. Thanks again! Take care guys =)
[21:44] <charlie-tca> You´re welcome. I´m glad I could help. Good luck
[21:44] <roosterizer> :) thanks
[21:53] <Demios> dammit
[21:53] <Demios> i'm not sure what the heck is up with my burner
[21:53] <Demios> it wont burn
[21:54] <Demios> actualy brasero says every disk i put in has 0bytes free
[21:55] <charlie-tca> Demios: will it play cd's? or will it read any that were burned before?
[21:55] <Demios> lets check
[21:55] <Demios> failed to open
[21:56] <charlie-tca> The cd or the drive drawer?
[21:56] <Demios> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[21:56] <Demios> mount: /dev/scd0 already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[21:56] <Demios> mount: according to mtab, /dev/scd0 is already mounted on /media/cdrom0.
[21:57] <Demios> Failed to open directory "cdrom0".
[21:57] <Demios> Permission denied.
[21:57] <charlie-tca> uh-h, right-click, unmount?
[21:58] <Demios> only options are
[21:58] <Demios> mount (grayed out) and eject
[21:58] <charlie-tca> try eject, then.
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Probably only opens the drawer, though
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Maybe time for a reboot, and see if that helps. I don´t really know.
[22:00] <charlie-tca> Hoping for someone else to jump in here, now
[22:00] <Demios> already rebooted a few times
[22:00] <Demios> and the tray opens up
[22:00] <Demios> when i select eject
[22:01] <charlie-tca> Well, it can't burn if it is always busy. I've exhausted my knowledge, though
[22:06] <gabkdlly> Demios: I have also encountered this problem
[22:07] <gabkdlly> using brasero
[22:07] <Demios> it wont burn audio cds either
[22:07] <Demios> like it burns them, then it fails
[22:07] <Demios> wasting a whole cd
[22:10] <rober> hi
[22:10] <gabkdlly> Demios: you don't happen to have a VIA chipset on your IDE controller?
[22:11] <charlie-tca> hi rober
[22:11] <rober> does anyone know how to make the "Places" menu show all removable drives (just like the gtk+ open dialog) ? It just shows home, trash, desktop and filesystem
[22:11] <Demios> not to my knowledge, and this is a recent thing
[22:12] <Demios> might have been since around the time i installed gmount-iso
[22:12] <gabkdlly> Demios: I have only tried to burn once since my move to intrepid
[22:12] <Demios> it's been since hardy, but it's actually inconvinient now that i actually need to burn isos
[22:13] <gabkdlly> rober: there is a panel button that allows you to mount attached devices
[22:13] <gabkdlly> rober: for example fd0
[22:13] <rober> gabkdlly,  yeah i know but in ubuntu (not xubuntu) the places menu shows all available devices (just like the gtk open dialog)
[22:13] <gabkdlly> Demios: to narrow it down you might try burning with another app
[22:14] <Demios> every other app fails
[22:14] <Demios> cds dont even mount properly to be read
[22:14] <phix> :/
[22:14] <gabkdlly> rober: yes, ubuntu and xubuntu differ in this respect.  Might be worth suggesting to the devs that you want this functionality in the "plaices" button
[22:15] <gabkdlly> Demios: oh, that differs from my experience, I have been able to mount cds and dvds
[22:16] <rober> gabkdlly, furthermore if you click on properties in the "places" menu you see there is an option called "Show removable media" so i guess it might be a bug
[22:16] <gabkdlly> Demios: I was hoping it would be as simple as filing a bug with brasero :(
[22:17] <gabkdlly> rober: true true
[22:17] <phix> can I ask questions regarding sound problems here? or is it out of scope?
[22:17] <gabkdlly> phix: if you are having sound problems while running xubuntu
[22:19] <gabkdlly> rober: although, the developers might have their reasons for not including devices that are not even attached
[22:19] <phix> gabkdlly: there is still there regardless if I type in sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or not
[22:19] <phix> the sounds problem still exist even :)
[22:19] <gabkdlly> phix: describe your problems please
[22:21] <phix> no sound, 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
[22:21] <rober> another question: does anyone know how to automount a partition at boot time ? like in all other distros (i.e adding the corresponding line in /etc/fstab) ?
[22:21] <phix> rober: add it in fstab
[22:21] <rober> ok
[22:21] <gabkdlly> phix: did you check the mixer levels? with alsamixer
[22:22] <phix> alsamixer
[22:22] <phix> No mixer elems found
[22:22] <phix> I tried to use alsaconf but it doesn't exist in alsa-base or alsa-util
[22:24] <rober> phix, do you know what partition type fuseblk is ? ubuntu automounts my ntfs win partition as fuseblk...
[22:25] <gabkdlly> phix: you might check the logs to see what the kernel has to say. dmesg or /var/log/
[22:26] <gabkdlly> phix: or google your hardware
[22:26] <gabkdlly> I am going to sleep now.  Bye people
[22:26] <zoredache> rober: fuseblk is almost certainly related to fuse.  I would guess your filesystem is ntfs...
[22:27] <phix> rober: ntfs-3g
[22:27] <phix> gabkdlly: I have been googling, no success
[22:28] <phix> which is why I came here as a last resource
[22:28] <phix> nice gabkdlly
[22:29] <phix> zoredache: and also since rober said it was his windows NTFS partition :) that gave it away for me :P
[22:29] <zoredache> there is always a chance he is doing something really obscure...
[22:30] <zoredache> but I agree that ntfs is probably the answer
[22:32] <rober> phix: so the type of partition i have to add in /etc/fstab is fuseblk and not ntfs right ?
[22:33] <phix> rober: incorrect
[22:33] <rober> phix: then ?
[22:33] <phix> rober: the correct answer was ntfs-3g
[22:33] <rober> oh
[22:33] <phix> as I posted above
[22:35] <zoredache> you will also probably need mount options to force a uid/gid mask for the filesystem
[22:35] <rober> zoredache, in automatic mode it is mount with the following options: rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096
[22:36] <zoredache> yes, but it is mounted under your account usually
[22:36] <zoredache> if you are mounting under fstab, it is mounting as root
[22:38] <rober> i see
[22:40] <rober> thank you phix, zoredache. Goodbye!