[00:10] <white_> I was in the middle of updating and adept crashed, now it says the process is locked, i tried rebooting, still the same error, how do i fix this?
[00:11] <dr_willis> !fixsdept
[00:11] <dr_willis> !fixadept
[00:25] <ahlym> k
[00:25] <apadox> hi, I can't install flash in kubuntu 8.04 KDE 3.5
[00:25] <apadox> firefox
[00:25] <apadox> i tried everything and googled
[00:26] <apadox> i386
[00:26] <apadox> i did that default from adobe page, downloaded .deb
[00:26] <apadox> still notihng
[00:26] <ahlym> u tried "sudo apt-get install firefox"?
[00:27] <apadox> yes
[00:27] <apadox> and over adept too
[00:27] <apadox> ahlym: every time flash is not working
[00:27] <apadox> ahlym: install firefox-d.0
[00:27] <apadox> 3.0
[00:28] <ahlym> i installed flash from sudo apt-get install flash-plugin
[00:28] <ahlym> it didnt work at u too ?
[00:28] <apadox> no
[00:29] <apadox> flash-plugin-nonfree
[00:29] <ahlym> all didnt work ?
[00:29] <apadox> no
[00:29] <ahlym> so what error appear at u
[00:29] <ahlym> ?
[00:29] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree is the name
[00:29] <apadox> i know
[00:29] <BluesKaj> !flashplugin-nonfree
[00:30] <BluesKaj> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[00:30] <apadox> fii did that
[00:30] <apadox> BluesKaj:
[00:30] <chase_> hey what is the screenshot key combo in kubuntu?
[00:30] <apadox> still get Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.  on youtube
[00:31] <BluesKaj> apadox, how did you install it ?
[00:32] <apadox> i tried first .deb
[00:32] <apadox> then apt
[00:34] <legodude_> chase_: I use ksnapshot
[00:34] <legodude_> !info ksnapshot
[00:34] <BluesKaj> apadox,  install it from the repos ... make sure you have the third party software enabled in adept
[00:34] <apadox> BluesKaj: how to completly remove it
[00:34] <chase_>  legodude: thank you very much!
[00:35] <apadox> because i tried to install it from rep after apt-remove
[00:35] <apadox> still same
[00:36] <BluesKaj> apadox , i recomend synaptic pkg manager ..it's better at completely removing aps and dependencies tha apt or adept , aptitude is good as well
[00:36] <BluesKaj> aps = apps
[00:36] <knoppix> hi, frustrated gnome user, i have an ubuntu smb server on my network, im trying to save a laptop with knoppix by transfering the data to the smb server, how do i connect to smb with kde?
[00:37] <BluesKaj> with konqueror , knoppix ...types smb in the addressbar ...if both machines are in the same workgroup it should work
[00:38] <BluesKaj>  smb:/
[00:38] <knoppix> BluesKaj, just type smb:/ in konqueror?
[00:38] <BluesKaj> yes
[00:39] <BluesKaj> if you have konq installed of course
[00:39] <knoppix> BluesKaj, knoppix can find mshome, but click on mshome - nothing
[00:40] <knoppix> i know the IP , wll that help
[00:40] <knoppix> ?
[00:41] <BluesKaj> are you sharing your windows pc files to the network ?
[00:41] <knoppix> BluesKaj, found it, thanks, just not used to KDE. ...
[00:42] <knoppix> but linux is linux, thanks again
[00:42] <knoppix> adios
[01:00] <wesley> the cuncurent non free flash is really unstable
[01:02] <tarvid> what's the best way to update from perl 5.8.8 to 5.10.0
[01:02] <gaelan> i just discovered that by typing "kcmshell4" in the terminal i can load up a long list of GUIs for managing my computer... is there somewhere i can find those tools all in one place? in particular "fileshare" which i can't find in the KDE System Settings
[01:03] <crimsun> wesley: on hardy? intrepid? jaunty?
[01:03] <tarvid> !perl
[01:03] <crimsun> wesley: sorry
[01:03] <crimsun> tarvid:  on hardy? intrepid? jaunty?
[01:03] <crimsun> wesley: actually, that question is relevant for you, too
[01:04] <crimsun> tarvid: i.e., if you're running intrepid, you have 5.10
[01:04] <crimsun> (sorry, 5.10.0)
[01:04] <tarvid> intrepid
[01:04] <crimsun>       perl | 5.10.0-11.1ubuntu2 |      intrepid | source, amd64, i386
[01:04] <tarvid> curiously I hjave 5.8.8
[01:04] <tarvid> I'll check apt
[01:05] <wesley> intrepid
[01:05] <jbarnes_> ugg, kdepim from beta2 fails to install with a kjots conflict
[01:05] <crimsun> tarvid: perl --version|awk '/built for/'
[01:05] <tarvid> You are a good man. I got this box horribly scrambled
[01:06] <tarvid> it has hardy in the version but intrepid in all the packages
[01:06] <tarvid> then some of the packages look for perl 5.10.0
[01:06] <crimsun> you likely need to complete your distribution upgrade
[01:06] <tarvid> but 5.8.8 is installed
[01:07] <tarvid> I think I'll bundle the machine up for a trip to a better connection
[01:07] <crimsun> apt-cache policy perl
[01:14] <white_> i've got an inspiron 3200, my sound doesn't work at all, and i've googled for hours and not found much except than apperently i have an ISA soundblaster pro and it apears to not work in ubuntu at all or a few other distros, but no answers on how to fix it.  can anyone help me here?
[01:19] <Cimmo> white_: did you read this? http://members.tripod.com/jeffchiu/linux-i3200.html
[01:19] <Cimmo> point 1. seems interesting
[01:21] <Cimmo> and also this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362505
[01:21] <billyd> White this might be some help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[01:24] <Walzmyn> I've just installed a new theme and when i acctivate it I get nothing but a white page - that a common problem?
[01:24] <Walzmyn> err, wrong channel, sorry
[01:28] <keres_> what is the chown syntax to remove ownership from a folder?
[01:29] <keres_> i accidentally set ownership of a folder to my user
[01:29] <billyd> White - what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[01:30] <m4v> keres_: check « man chown »
[01:30] <keres_> m4v: what?
[01:31] <m4v> chown's manual
[01:33] <keres_> m4v: is there just a simple syntax for reseting it?
[01:35] <m4v> you just set the ownership of that folder to the previous owner
[01:35] <keres_> will sudo chown -r root:root /usr/  work m4v?
[01:36] <Kovert> any one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?
[01:38] <m4v> keres_: I guess so, but I don't know if all files in /usr should belong to root
[01:39] <keres_> m4v: that syntax only made some folders have root ownership
[01:41] <m4v> that's probably because you weren't able to check in the manual if -r is for recursive
[01:41] <m4v> or chown --help
[01:42] <keres_> m4v: -r means recursive? what effect does this have?
[01:43] <wesley> more people are having the last 2 days problems with gmail?
[01:44] <Kovert> any one know why the rss plazmoid never actually gets any news?
[01:46] <Kovert> Design feature?
[02:05] <wesley> spam filter from kmail works to good
[02:05] <afeijo> thats weird, my htdocs/subfolder now save my files empty! size 0! but with sudo nano it save.  I didnt change anything, and all files are owned by feijo:feijo
[02:06] <wesley> i get mail from my girl and where does kmail place it in the spam folder
[02:07] <afeijo> any suggestion?
[02:16] <wesley> what are you doing ?
[02:17] <tbr281> what app can i use to take snapshots from a video?
[02:18] <wesley> vlc
[02:19] <tbr281> ok
[02:19] <snarkster> has anyone tried the google gadgets?
[02:20] <snarkster> I can only seem to find google-gadgets-gtk is that the correct one?
[02:20] <jedix> I'm going to guess not
[02:20] <jedix> but don't know
[02:21] <wesley> snarkster, big change doesnt going work
[02:22] <wesley> I clearly need to set the spam filters off
[02:23] <trees> Hi, im having trouble mounting a phone with usb storage.  The system adds /dev/sdb but not its partitions.
[02:24] <trees> is this common?
[02:25] <snarkster> wesley: I dont understand what you just said.
[02:25] <snarkster> common for my sidekick
[02:26] <trees> used to work a few versions ago
[02:26] <peeps_> why am i getting this error? http://pastebin.com/m3a9a9f39
[02:27] <keres> is kde3 less buggy than 4?
[02:30] <wesley> snarkster i meant big chance it will not work
[02:30] <wesley> keres yes it is
[02:30] <keres> wesley: you using 4 or 3?
[02:31] <keres> wesley: how easy is it to switch to 3 from 4?
[02:31] <wesley> easy just update to 8.10 oh and i use kde 4.2 that a beta
[02:32] <keres> i'm using 8.10. i just installed kubuntu 2 nights ago. kde4 is hella unstable here.
[02:32] <keres> is the 4.2 beta more/less stable?
[02:34] <wesley> Uh depends on your system i gues
[02:35] <wesley> kde4.2 is better thats one thing i am sure off
[02:36] <wesley> but its still bedta
[02:36] <wesley> beta
[02:37] <faileas> wesley: KDE 4.1 feels betaish to me too ;p
[02:38] <wesley> hmmm no that could i not say, its just early release
[02:38] <snarkster> wesley: hmm they work fine just wanted the qt version if there was one
[02:38] <keres> wesley: how easy is it to switch to 3.x, i'm on intrepid.
[02:39] <wesley> lol intrepid is 4.1
[02:39] <wesley> theres no kde3 anynmore in 8.10 8.04 was last kde3
[02:39] <keres> there's no possible way to downgrade kde4 to kde3?
[02:40] <snarkster> compile it yourself
[02:40]  * keres hates compiling
[02:41] <wesley> keres uh there is away
[02:41] <wesley> just grab a copy of kubuntu 8.04 and install it on your system
[02:41] <keres> wesley: how much more stable is kde3? and does that require formatting?
[02:42] <snarkster> yes it requires formatting..
[02:42] <peeps_> why am i getting this error? http://pastebin.com/m3a9a9f39
[02:42] <wesley> keres, uh yeah you need to format your / but you could look for kde3 packages for kde3
[02:42] <peeps_> im just trying to make a mock file system, so i can burn it to cd
[02:42] <peeps_> im trying to flash my bios
[02:44] <snarkster> is it already a floppy image?
[02:44] <wesley> but keres i would suggest just move on, because kde3 is old
[02:44] <keres> yeah
[02:44] <peeps_> snarkster: no
[02:44] <wesley> kde4 is the future
[02:45] <peeps_> snarkster: ive had this error before when i tried to use the loop function
[02:45] <peeps_> but im not sure
[02:45] <wesley> Guys Windows 7 leaked on the internet, you can test Windows 7 already
[02:45] <snarkster> hmm its beyond my scope
[02:45] <snarkster> yah who cares about windows
[02:46] <wesley> I
[02:46] <bazhang> !offtopic
[02:47] <wesley> Wanna have always tested new and modern software
[02:47] <wesley> !ubuntu
[02:47] <wesley> !gates
[02:52] <compaq> ,,
[02:52] <snarkster> real housewives of Orange County.. good god.
[02:55] <afeijo> to my user when I run echo test > t system tell me: no more disk space, but with sudo it writes.  Quota? How to increase?
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Anyone on 4.1.3 ?
[02:56] <cWolfe> i forget, do i  need a 64bit OS to run 16 gigs of ram?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> cWolfe: pretty close
[02:56] <afeijo> cWolfe: I guess you can use it with APE enabled
[02:58] <cWolfe> thanks guys
[02:58] <cWolfe> i have 1 cdr left, and almost burnt 32bit kubuntu
[02:58] <cWolfe> glad i asked 1st
[03:02] <PleXuS> i have some weard problem in my kde4.1
[03:02] <PleXuS> my windows list sometimes hangs
[03:02] <PleXuS> windows buttons stay on the bar when there not active anymore andso on
[03:04] <keres> Help someone
[03:04] <DaSkreech> PleXuS: 4.1.3 ?
[03:04] <DaSkreech> keres: hi
[03:04] <keres> hi DaSkreech
[03:04] <djmisi> Zdravim
[03:05] <keres> The application KDE Daemon (kded4) crashed and caused Signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[03:05] <PleXuS> DaSkreech, yeah
[03:05] <keres> this occured during update
[03:05] <keres> "A fatal error has occured" is the dialog title
[03:05] <DaSkreech> keres: It'll auostart itself
[03:05] <PleXuS> DaSkreech, no its 4.1.2
[03:05] <keres> DaSkreech: ignore it?
[03:06] <PleXuS> DaSkreech, but i did update today
[03:06] <PleXuS> and no new versions :s
[03:06] <DaSkreech> keres: Unless it keeps happening
[03:06] <keres> ok :)
[03:06] <DaSkreech> PleXuS: What version of Kubuntu are you on?
[03:07] <keres> DaSkreech: you running kde4?
[03:07] <DaSkreech> keres: It runs me
[03:07] <afeijo> some other night I was coping a .avi 350 mb file to a ntfs folder.  In the middle, my machine turned off (ops, cron shutdown).  Siince that, I cant copy files to that folder, nor remove files!!
[03:07] <keres> lol
[03:07] <keres> brb
[03:07] <PleXuS> 8.10
[03:07] <PleXuS> dist-upgrade
[03:07] <PleXuS> original first install 7.10
[03:08] <DaSkreech> afeijo: It's been marked as dirty boot up into Windows and it should mark it as ok after a clean shutdown
[03:08] <afeijo> I dont have windows
[03:08] <DaSkreech> PleXuS: read the entry on http://kubuntu.org for how to get 4.1.3
[03:08] <faileas> afeijo: you can force it
[03:08] <afeijo> I belive I already use the force option to auto mount
[03:10] <afeijo> and I have other disk problem, now on linux partition.  It tells me that I dont have disk space, but using sudo it save the data into any file :(
[03:10] <afeijo> that just started to happen
[03:12] <DaSkreech> You really should file a fsck on them
[03:12] <DaSkreech> probably from the live Cd
[03:12] <afeijo> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=3cd36c32-f0c8-4c16-9cf9-ded49dd601e1'
[03:12] <keres> what is the apt-get for firefox?
[03:13] <afeijo> sudo apt-get install firefox-3
[03:13] <afeijo> ops, just firefox
[03:13] <DaSkreech> no
[03:13] <keres> lol
[03:13] <DaSkreech> dont' do just firefox
[03:13] <afeijo> firefox-2 to version 2
[03:13] <PleXuS> DaSkreech, updating to 4.1.3 ;)
[03:13] <afeijo> I did, work pretty nice
[03:13] <DaSkreech> Firefox pulls in all of Gnome
[03:14] <keres> DaSkreech: apt-get install firefox-3 ?
[03:14] <afeijo> here didnt :)
[03:14] <keres> firefox worked last time i tried
[03:14] <afeijo> DaSkreech: manually install with .gz?
[03:14] <keres> but i had to format
[03:14] <keres> :S
[03:14] <keres> i did apt-get last time
[03:14] <afeijo> so I should run fsck with livecd? not now! Time to sleep... g'night all
[03:17] <keres> sudo apt-get install firefox seems to work
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Guess someone fixed it :)
[03:18] <keres> well maybe
[03:18] <keres> it's maybe screwing up
[03:18] <keres> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:19] <keres> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:19] <DaSkreech> You have something else open that's installing something ?
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Do you have adept open ?
[03:19] <keres> hmm
[03:19] <keres> no
[03:19] <keres> i may have accidentally alt-f4'ed the terminal that was installing firefox
[03:20] <faileas> hmm
[03:21] <faileas> is it just me, or is jabber support in kopete broken? i got a "operation not supported" message when i try to connect to google talk or LJ's jabber server
[03:22] <DaSkreech> faileas: I dunno Google seems to do that like eveery 4 days
[03:22] <DaSkreech> in 10 minutes it works again
[03:25] <keres> DaSkreech: what happens when you accidentally close out a terminal window that is in the middle of an apt-get?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> depends on where it is with apt-get
[03:25] <keres> apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <keres> and firefo
[03:26] <keres> accidentally both, i'm so dumb right now
[03:26] <DaSkreech> If it was commiting the changes and setting up the files it might lock your apt-get database
[03:26] <keres> should i logout then back in?
[03:26] <faileas> DaSkreech: hasn't worked for some time for me
[03:26] <DaSkreech> !adeptfix
[03:26] <DaSkreech> keres: Ah damnit
[03:30] <snarkster> does anyone have any idea how to put user accounting on a kubuntu box?
[03:30] <snarkster> I need to limit computer use to 1 hour
[03:30] <snarkster> per user.
[03:31] <DaSkreech> snarkster: Look into setting up a kiosk
[03:31] <DaSkreech> I think Linux.com had an article on setting up an internet lab for a conference that had timed logins per user
[03:32] <DaSkreech> as well as stuff like cleaning out the cache and settings on logout though I'm guessing you don't care about that :)
[03:32] <snarkster> haha well that would come in handy for a guest account
[03:32] <snarkster> i noticed that GDM has guest account function wonder when KDM will aquire that
[03:41] <DaSkreech> snarkster: Hopefully in 9.10
[03:41] <DaSkreech> wait
[03:41] <DaSkreech> 9.04
[03:41] <DaSkreech> but yeah hopefully by 9.10 :)
[03:41] <mds58> hey I think I killed my grub what can I do?
[03:41] <snarkster> oh? that far away?
[03:41] <snarkster> !grub
[03:42] <snarkster> mds58 those will really help
[03:42] <DaSkreech> You want it before 9.04 ?
[03:42] <snarkster> yah I do
[03:42] <snarkster> i was wondering about getting the source and looking at it, but im not a programmer
[03:43] <DaSkreech> snarkster: Well get the source and hang out in #kubuntu-devel They can give you hints
[03:43] <mds58> lost grub after removing windows
[03:43] <mds58> while loading kubuntu 8.10
[03:44] <snarkster> youll need a live cd
[03:44] <mds58> have it
[03:44] <snarkster> then read those howtos they really helped me alot when i screwed up grub
[03:44] <mds58> and I also have a second hard drive does that make a difference when editing grub
[03:45] <snarkster> um not really.
[03:45] <snarkster> i think
[03:45] <JonXP> OK, so first time user of KDE, wanted to try out 4.1, is Plasma supposed to be so slow and jerky, or am I doing something wrong?
[03:45] <JonXP> Everything else is working fine with desktop composition.
[03:45] <snarkster> depends on on your machine specifications
[03:46] <DaSkreech> mds58: Only if that's where you are putting grub
[03:46] <JonXP> C2D + nVidia 8800
[03:46] <snarkster> try turning off the special effects
[03:46] <JonXP> It also seems to have a really tough time with multiple monitors.
[03:46] <DaSkreech> JonXP: Depends on your nvidia driver. all except the latest ones have really bad 2d performance for KDE4
[03:46] <JonXP> OK
[03:47] <JonXP> I'm using the latest non-beta driver
[03:47] <DaSkreech> It does stuff that X and nvidia had never tested before
[03:47] <snarkster> oh yah plasma and multimonitors doesnt work
[03:47] <JonXP> Well, it's weird, when I drag a plasmid over to my second monitor, it actually works smoothly.  ON my main monitor it crawls.  Heh
[03:48] <mds58> so do I need to have my os loaded before I try to fix my grub or will it work without one?
[03:48] <JonXP> I'll try turning off effect.
[03:50] <DaSkreech> grub will work butit's kinda pointless without an OS
[03:51] <mds58> ok I will install the os then fix the grub
[03:53] <gimpgnu> Kubutu Wins, Fatality
[03:54] <DaSkreech> mds58: Plus installing the OS normally reinstalls Grub magically fixing it anyway
[03:59] <gimpgnu> kopete dont working
[04:01] <macjason0607> guys i have a question .. i have video i took that is in a format that is crappy .. what can i use to convert it and make it look decent ?
[04:02] <gimpgnu> Total Video Convert
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Is the format crappy or the video is crappy?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> !not working | gimpgnu
[04:04] <DaSkreech> !notworking | gimpgnu
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:04] <DaSkreech> !doesn't work
[04:04] <DaSkreech> There we go :0
[04:04] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[04:04] <Hydrogen> err
[04:04] <Hydrogen> if its that ambiguous
[04:04] <Hydrogen> it clearly isn't a strong statement
[04:04] <Hydrogen> ubottu fail!
[04:04] <Hydrogen> oh, yes you do
[04:11] <uman> Hey guys, im in ubuntu 8.10 and i am using a usb sd card reader with 2 different cards, the 1 gb card works just fine( it automounts and i can browse the files), but the 4 gb card wont work... Anyone have an idea of what could be the problem and how can i see al usb connected devices. Thanks
[04:29] <uman> anyone know a good app to reencode .mov videos to avi divx or something that is smaller so uploading HD videos to youtube wont literally take hours? thanks
[04:42] <ganymede> hey, what is the package that i should be using to get a little network manager applet in my systray? i tried sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager but it was pulling in the kdelibs from kde3
[04:45] <preston> hello gang 1st time kubuntu user here ive used ubuntu for some time and knew how to acsess the root terminal in ubuntu how do i get root acsess in kubuntu, this is by the way so i can set ny nvidia card settings
[04:46] <bazhang> preston, sudo
[04:46] <bazhang> preston, never use root, use sudo. same for all iterations of *buntu
[04:47] <ganymede> same for network-manager-kde
[04:48] <bazhang> for gui it is a bit different
[04:48] <preston> the only problem which required my to use root was havimg to reset my settings everytime i fire up my pc because i couldnt save my settings i the nvidia panel
[04:49] <gimpgnu> install xp
[04:49] <bazhang> gimpgnu, ??
[04:51] <preston> testing nvidia settings wish me luck
[04:52] <klobster> hint for nvidia settings: right click on the Kmenu and choose menu editor.  Then edit the shortcut on the start menu to "kdesu
[04:52] <klobster> sorry, "kdesu  /usr/bin/nvidia-settings"
[04:53] <preston> kdesu is like gksu with xfce right?
[04:53] <klobster> it should be like that by default : (
[04:53] <klobster> ^^ yup
[04:53] <preston> a way to get root acsess
[04:53] <klobster> it's kde sudo
[04:53] <preston> ok
[04:54] <klobster> if you change the shortcut it will be like that forever; no having to open it wierd to write to file
[04:54] <preston> this is my 1st foray into kde so bear with me
[04:54] <DaSkreech> mencoder?
[04:54] <klobster> anyone know anything about hdmi audio?
[04:54] <preston> i'll use that power resposibly
[04:55] <DaSkreech> ganymede: Not sure if there is a KDE4 one yet
[04:59] <klobster> how do i install XComposite and XDamage on my 64-bit sys?
[04:59] <zigggggy> klobster!!!!
[04:59] <klobster> :)
[04:59] <zigggggy> remember me?
[04:59] <klobster> yup.  I'm back for more (and on a shiny new system)
[05:00] <zigggggy> where you been!
[05:00] <klobster> had a move, had a divorce, had a major system crash, you know: The usual
[05:01] <zigggggy> klobster :( :(
[05:01] <zigggggy> how can so many bad things happen to such a nice person!
[05:01] <zigggggy> smooth_penguin misses you, klobster :)
[05:02]  * DaSkreech boggles at the many ways he can take this conversation out of context
[05:03] <klobster> who?
[05:03] <zigggggy> smooth_penguin
[05:03] <zigggggy> remember him?
[05:03] <klobster> i drink alot :(
[05:03] <zigggggy> klobster :(
[05:03]  * zigggggy worries about klobster :(
[05:04] <klobster> i kid, but no I don't remember him
[05:04] <zigggggy> oh :/
[05:04] <zigggggy> well he misses you anyways :)
[05:04] <zigggggy> we havent seen you in months
[05:04] <klobster> bad mojo, but also playing with vista.  Better experiance than I had heard
[05:06] <DaSkreech> klobster: It is nice out of the box wait 3 months though
[05:07] <klobster> no thanks, I'll just break things in kubuntu
[05:07] <klobster> :)
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Whooot!
[05:07] <klobster> So I am giving 64bit a spin, any thoughts/advice/warnings?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> And we are here to support you
[05:08] <DaSkreech> klobster: Flash and video card drivers will suck.. that's about it
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Oh Wifi will also probably give you reason to give birth to small felines
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Everything else will be super groovy
[05:09] <klobster> i put the 177 nvidia driver on, seems ok so far.  wifi, huh?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Flash is going to be the suck you know it's bad when Microsoft uses that as a selling point
[05:09] <klobster> I still cant figure out hdmi audio.  i'm not sure where to even start.  Aplay lists it as a device, but alsamixer does not
[05:10] <klobster> what about the new native 64bit flash
[05:10] <faileas> lol
[05:10] <DaSkreech> klobster: There is a post on Phoronix about that
[05:10] <DaSkreech> I haven't heard how bad or good it is
[05:12]  * klobster is amazed at how sexy intrepid is vs. edgy
[05:13] <klobster> zigggggy: my new system: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-pavilion-elite-m9150f/4505-3118_7-32810504.html
[05:13] <DaSkreech> klobster: you mean hardy?
[05:14] <klobster> nope, I never made to the hardy upgrade.  my system crashed before then
[05:17] <klobster> hey what is this pulseaudio?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> klobster: How adventurous are you?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !pulseaudio
[05:18] <klobster> esd?  was there a massive audio overhaul?
[05:18] <klobster> DaSkreech: very
[05:19] <klobster> lol from phoronix forums:
[05:19] <klobster>  Hah, I played around with HDMI audio so much, the only thing I haven't tried is create my own driver. I figured my cable was not working.
[05:19] <klobster> Reply With Quote
[05:24] <DaSkreech> klobster: Try KDE 4.2 beta 1 :)
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Which sucks it takes out nearly all the usefullnes of Kate :(
[05:25] <DaSkreech> and why can't kate open files in an existing kate instance?
[05:25] <faileas> lol
[05:25] <klobster> Oh i'll get there.  but first I need to get the basics down here.  WAIT WHAT HAPPENS TO KATE?!?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> klobster: Nothing I'm ranting about something :)
[05:35] <preston> ok i cannot get my resolution settings to save at all
[05:35] <kurumin> someone help me please?
[05:36] <preston> using kdesu, kdesudo, sudo ,s anything
[05:36] <kurumin> someone plase...help?
[05:36] <kurumin> please
[05:37] <klobster> kurumin: just ask
[05:37] <klobster> preston: you have to "save to X configuration"
[05:37] <klobster> !ask > kurumin
[05:37] <kurumin> klobster: Hi Klobster, i'm from Brazil and i'm using Kurumin NG... I can't connect aMSN
[05:38] <preston> did that klobster
[05:38] <klobster> preston: can you be more specific?
[05:38] <preston> it will only say if i open it with kdesu or others but when i restart it goes back to default
[05:38] <preston> only save sorry
[05:39] <preston> brb klobster sorry
[05:40] <klobster> !brazil
[05:41] <kurumin> thanks
[05:41] <klobster> ^^ kurumin
[05:41] <kurumin> \o
[05:41] <klobster> o?
[05:41] <kurumin> I think that ubottu was a human u.u'
[05:42] <klobster> kurumin: talk to #ubunut-br, they can help
[05:42] <kurumin> ok
[05:42] <klobster> ahhh, good to be back
[05:42] <kurumin> i already join
[05:42] <klobster> kurumin: and no luck?  ok what software are you using for amsn
[05:43] <kurumin> Kurumin NG
[05:44] <kurumin>  I just can't connect ¬¬'
[05:44] <Troggle> Humans of all races have come to realize that NIGGERS = FAIL!  Join us at Chimpout.com!  http://www.chimpout.com  Asians, Jews, Mexicans, Whites, Native Americans, and non-nigger Hispanics are welcome!!!  http://www.chimpout.com    For info ask in the Guest Forum.
[05:45] <Mamarok> Troggle: behave!
[05:45] <crimsun> sigh, what is with the trolls?
[05:46] <klobster> kurumin: that is the OS, no?  what specific program do you use for amsn?
[05:46] <kurumin> hmm
[05:46] <kurumin> ok
[05:47] <kurumin> wait a minute...
[05:47] <klobster> kopete?
[05:47] <kurumin> aMSN 0.97
[05:48] <kurumin> i'm using LiveCD version
[05:49] <klobster> kurumin: try kopete, it has msn compatability
[05:49] <klobster> kurumin: what happens when you put in your username/password
[05:50] <kurumin> Error trying to connect the server
[05:51] <DaSkreech> !msn
[05:51] <DaSkreech> !info kmess
[05:51] <DaSkreech> !info amsn
[05:51] <klobster> hrmm.  I connected with no problem.  did you check for an upgrade?
[05:51] <kurumin> Can I do an upgrade with LiveCd?
[05:52] <klobster> yup.  you just have to do it every time you reboot (the cd won't remember). Is there an upgrade button
[05:52] <DaSkreech> kurumin: no
[05:53] <klobster> DaSkreech: yes
[05:53] <kurumin> hm
[05:53] <DaSkreech> You need the server CD to upgrade your install
[05:53] <kurumin> I download the recent version
[05:54] <kurumin> of kurumin
[05:54] <klobster> which is based on 8.04
[05:54] <kurumin> yes
[05:54] <kurumin> ^
[05:54] <klobster> try running sudo apt-get install amsn in a terminal
[05:55] <kurumin> sorry...i'm very noob...maybe is better I read an FAQ, isn't it? ^^'
[05:56] <klobster> maybe try kopete.  it should be installed by default
[05:56] <kurumin> I'm doing the kopete download in the Magic Icons
[05:58] <kurumin> klobster: Well...I will try it anyway
[05:58] <klobster> ok
[05:58] <kurumin> Thanks very much!
[05:58] <kurumin> Thanks for the spirit of cooperation
[05:59] <preston> klobster back
[05:59] <klobster> it's a good spirit ;)
[05:59] <klobster> preston: and?
[06:00] <Chimpbot> Humans of all races have come to realize that NIGffffGERS = FAIL!  Join us at Chimpout.com!  http://www.chimpout.com  Asians, Jews, Mexicans, Whites, Native Americans, and non-nigfffffger Hispanics are welcome!!!  http://www.chimpout.com    For info ask in the Guest Forum.
[06:00] <preston> ok whats going on is that ive installed the nvidia driver in 8.04.1 and when i boot back up my resolution and refresh are off so when i set then using nvidia settings to get it to write to xorg i have to open it using root
[06:01] <Chimpbot> Humans of all races have come to realize that NIGGERS = FAIL!  Join us at Chimpout.com!  http://www.chimpout.com  Asians, Jews, Mexicans, Whites, Native Americans, and non-nigger Hispanics are welcome!!!  http://www.chimpout.com    For info ask in the Guest Forum.
[06:01] <preston> so ive tried doing that but when i reboot it goes back to default
[06:01] <preston> ok kick chimpbot someone please
[06:02] <sager_> any quick advice for enabling the "scroll wheel" functionality for a synaptics touchpad?
[06:02] <klobster> preston: when you click save to x, what is the message you get?
[06:02] <preston> nonroot message says i cant, no message when im in root
[06:03] <preston> which should mean it should take
[06:04] <bazhang> !ops | Chimpbot
[06:05] <DaSkreech> !ops
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Can someone ban 67.159.35.76
[06:06] <klobster> preston and you have the right file selected when you save?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> stdin: 67.159.35.76 ?
[06:07] <preston> if memory serves it's xorg.conf
[06:07] <preston> let me check to be sure
[06:07] <klobster>  /etc/X11/Xorg.conf?
[06:07] <stdin> DaSkreech: my script seemed to mess something up there
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Who did it just ban?
[06:08] <preston> klobster yes just confirmed
[06:08] <preston> daskreech chimpbot
[06:08] <stdin> DaSkreech: ah, no. my script was right
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Where did that IP come from?
[06:08] <stdin> DaSkreech: the IP was that of a web gateway it seems
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Ah ok
[06:09] <stdin> both will be banned until I'm sure though
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Thanks I should have poked someone from the first offence
[06:09] <preston> klobster would you like to see my xorg.conf file?
[06:09] <preston> pastebined
[06:10] <klobster> preston: sure, but also when you go into nvidia settings, is the resolution settings correct or no?
[06:10] <preston> klobster after reboot no
[06:10] <klobster> preston: what vsion rou unnin, BTW?
[06:10] <preston> 8.04.1
[06:10] <preston> updated
[06:11] <klobster> preston: yes, I know, but what it says in the nvidia control panel, is it also wrong?
[06:11] <klobster> grr wireless issues
[06:11] <preston> resolution is correct but refreshrate is wrong which makes the resolution oddly enough look off
[06:12] <preston> but it shows 1440*900 which is correct
[06:12] <preston> refresh rate is supposed to be 75 but it defaults back to 60
[06:14] <klobster> sounds like a merge error.  can you pastebin the xorg.conf?
[06:14] <klobster> !pastebin
[06:14] <preston> here you go klobster http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1281394
[06:15] <preston> klobster i noticed something as i was looking at it concerning line 71 and the term auto-select
[06:17] <klobster> preston: yesh, just cut out the 1440X900_60 +0+0, but leave the quote
[06:18] <preston> klobster what about nvidia-auto-select
[06:18] <klobster> preston: the problem with merge is it won't always remove things, sometimes it just adds.  You can bull the auto select if you wish as well
[06:19] <klobster> *pull
[06:19] <preston> klobster so just have "metamodes" "1440x900_75 +0+0; "
[06:22] <klobster> preston: werd
[06:22] <klobster> restart x
[06:22] <preston> ok klobster this is what i have on that line now
[06:22] <preston> Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_75 +0+0; "
[06:22] <preston> correct?
[06:23] <liquidfu22> Hello all
[06:23] <klobster> correct
[06:23] <preston> restarting x then
[06:24] <klobster> !hi liquidfu22
[06:24] <klobster> !hi > liquidfu22
[06:24] <klobster> DaSkreech: so is alsa out of the picture now?
[06:25] <preston> klobster same thing
[06:25] <klobster> :?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> klobster: No
[06:26] <liquidfu22>  question to those listening new to the IRC chat thing but my question is this, Just Installed Kubuntu 8.10 and everything works great. Adept says I have 108 upgradeable packages how do i know what i should and should not upgrade to maintain funtionality of right now
[06:27] <preston> klobster same rez issue when i restarted x
[06:27] <klobster> a deep question indeed.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> liquidfu22: New to Linux?
[06:28] <liquidfu22> well not entirely i know enough to get in trouble
[06:28] <liquidfu22> with my own computer that is
[06:28] <klobster> preston: that is very strange.  perhaps we can force it by changing lines 52 and 53 to 81.0 and 75.0
[06:28] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:28] <preston> klobster what about xorg backup?
[06:29] <klobster> what about it?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> liquidfu22: The only packages which get upgraded assuming that you don't jump a version are the ones you have installed. The criteria for them being upgraded is they don't break what you have in functionality
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Outside of the kernel I think you can safely upgrade everything
[06:30] <liquidfu22> ok but what of the kernel upgades that are not installed
[06:30] <DaSkreech> They are safe but in a differnt way
[06:31] <DaSkreech> They don't replace your old kernels so if something breaks just choose the old kernel in Grub at startup
[06:31] <DaSkreech> THere is a very low liklihood of them breaking anything
[06:31] <liquidfu22> my only worry is that when i was using 7.10 a while back i upgraded a kernel and video and wireless got screwed up
[06:31] <DaSkreech> well not very low but low enough to be acceptable
[06:32] <DaSkreech> liquidfu22: Just boot back into the old kernel
[06:32] <liquidfu22> but that was a while ago and i had to fudge alot to get those two to work
[06:32] <DaSkreech> and remove the newer one Not a big deal unless you are running a server
[06:33] <DaSkreech> If it helps any I almost never upgrade my kernel
[06:33] <klobster> sorry brb
[06:34] <liquidfu22> now my vid and wifi work pretty much out of box so to speek, ok so best bet fool proof would be to upgrade everything but the kernel
[06:35] <DaSkreech> yes
[06:35] <liquidfu22> DaSkreech: ok cool thanks
[06:36] <macjason0607> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/83362/
[06:40] <klobster> preston: im back
[06:41] <placsin> hello all, I have a strange problem with my internet connection, It downloads smthg time to time, 2 or 3 mbs, but it is so annoying... what it can be?
[06:43] <liquidfu22> placsin: define time to time like every time you turn your comp on, once a day, etc
[06:44] <liquidfu22> please
[06:44] <placsin> I meant every 1 minute
[06:44] <placsin> nearly*
[06:45] <liquidfu22> what do you have running when it happens on screen and in task bar
[06:46] <placsin> nothing, only firestarter
[06:46] <liquidfu22> hmm never used firestarter dont know what it is
[06:47] <placsin> its a GUI to manage iptables, it also shows active connectios, speed and trafic downloaded
[06:49] <liquidfu22> ahh i see i dunno cant think of anything something like that would need to download of that size every minute or so
[06:50] <epimeth> anybody using the 4.2 beta?
[06:51] <sager_> liquidfu22:  are you conneceted to/via any remote desktop or vnc software?
[06:51] <placsin> I thought it might be some process that checking smthg, though firestarter shows that there are no active connections, but it still downloading
[06:51] <placsin> no, I connected directly
[06:51] <sager_> wow, I meant placsin of course
[06:52] <epimeth> I tried the neon nightlies and it seemed.... not ready.  just wondering how the beta is?
[06:53] <placsin> can it be troyan or virus?
[06:54] <liquidfu22> sager_: no
[07:04] <DaSkreech> epimeth: I am
[07:14] <sparr> linux says my NIC MAC address is invalid, likely due to a known issue with it being read backwards.  Due to this I get assigned a random MAC and an incremented ethXX device number every time I reboot.  Is there some way to avoid that?
[07:21] <epimeth> DaSkreech: how is it?
[07:22] <DaSkreech> epimeth: has bugs but it's much much nicer than 4.1
[07:22] <DaSkreech> sparr: A known issue? Is there a known workaround?
[07:23] <epimeth> have you tried the neon nightlies? do you know how it compares?
[07:23] <sparr> DaSkreech: kinda.  im trying to make sense of the instructions
[07:24] <epimeth> sparr: does it really matter? unless you are a router I don't see why it would matter...
[07:24] <DaSkreech> epimeth: NIghtlies aren't as nice
[07:24] <klobster> my mouse randomly stops letting me click on things,  anyone else experiance that?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> klobster: Only in Konqueror
[07:25] <sparr> epimeth: it means none of the if* scripts work properly, and none of the gui network config tools remember my configuration (i configure eth37, then reboot and have to configure eth38 from scratch)
[07:25] <sparr> epimeth: and i get a different IP from my router every reboot, because i have a new MAC
[07:25] <epimeth> DaSkreech: if I apt-get remove kde-nightly will it cause any problems?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> no
[07:25] <sparr> epimeth: so it really matters.  in multiple ways.
[07:26] <nmjohnso> whats a good easy to use ftp server to set up
[07:26] <klobster> DaSkreech: this is everywhere, no kmnu nothing.  I can alt-tab and i can wave around the cursor...
[07:26] <epimeth> sparr: again, does it really matter? Are you running a server?
[07:26] <epimeth> nmjohnso: can you rephrase that?  I really don't understand what you are asking
[07:27] <nmjohnso> i'd like to set up a personal ftp sever but i have no experience with it, where should i start?
[07:27] <sparr> epimeth: yes, various servers.  and it "really matters" when i have to manually enable my NIC every boot and turn on dhcp
[07:27] <DaSkreech> klobster: Nope I have the opposite problem My keyboard stops working but the mouseworks fine
[07:27] <epimeth> nmjohnso: ah... /msg ubottu ftp
[07:27] <epimeth> nmjohnso: ah... /msg ubottu !ftp
[07:28] <epimeth> erm
[07:28] <epimeth> heh
[07:28] <epimeth> sorry
[07:28] <epimeth> !ftp
[07:28] <epimeth> !FTPd
[07:28] <epimeth> grr... no links... let me see if I can find the help page...
[07:28] <DaSkreech> sparr: let us know where you have issues with the workaround
[07:28] <sparr> DaSkreech: will have to reboot to test it, will let you know
[07:28] <klobster> Qdvdauthor is a POS
[07:28] <DaSkreech> nmjohnso: Install something from the !ftpd listing
[07:29] <nmjohnso> thanks
[07:29] <epimeth> nmjohnso: try https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[07:29] <sparr> DaSkreech: well, first thing, the workaround only fixes the ethXX numbering, not the MAC assignment, so im going to keep getting different IPs from my router
[07:29] <DaSkreech> It assigns a new MAC everytime?
[07:29] <sushiX> i am not able to access my sessions setting any idea
[07:29] <epimeth> nmjohnso: in fact, you should read all of the server setup.  I personally prefer scp... more secure
[07:30] <epimeth> sparr: oh... well good luck!
[07:30] <sparr> DaSkreech: yes, a "feature" of the forcedeth driver
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Good grief
[07:31] <sparr> [    3.120892] forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: Invalid Mac address detected: 2f:d3:61:ea
[07:31] <sparr> :0f:00
[07:31] <sparr> [    3.120948] forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: Please complain to your hardware vendor.Switching to a random MAC.
[07:33] <epimeth> lol... please complain to your harware vendor... hehe
[07:34] <epimeth> sparr: might I make a tiny suggestion, perhaps?
[07:34] <epimeth> buy a new nic?
[07:34] <sparr> the issue is that "all" nvidia NICs store their MAC backwards
[07:34] <sparr> so the driver compensates
[07:34] <sparr> except some NICs don't now
[07:35] <sparr> and the linux driver doesn't know the difference
[07:35] <sparr> im not buying a new NIC, ive already got plenty.  i want this one to start working again.
[07:35] <sparr> the driver should be fixed in 2.6.2something
[07:36] <epimeth> :-(
[07:36] <epimeth> I'd help if I could amigo
[07:51] <BigMike>  ???? is there a way to deselect all items in the update manager????
[08:00] <jussi01> BigMike: I dont think so. Id file a bug if I were you
[08:04] <BigMike> ok thanks however I have a over a 1000 updates coming in so it would be nice to deselect and then select what I want
[08:07] <epimeth> BigMike: why not just install them all?
[08:09] <BigMike> I will takes a long time tho
[08:09] <epimeth> so leave it overnight
[08:09] <BigMike> can i install some then abort it later
[08:10] <BigMike> well it wanted to install for 2 days and I need to take it to work
[08:18] <neo_> salu2
[08:19] <Adelantado> hi
[08:21] <Frankyboy> Wie kan mij meer vertellen over openoffice 3.0? Is de betaversie nog bezig?
[08:22] <eagles0513875> !de | Frankyboy#
[08:29] <ashwin> openoffice updates screwed up my oo install...
[08:36] <eagles0513875> ashwin try koffice so much quicker and lighter then oo
[08:36] <moj0rising> hi. I'm unable to play DVDs even though i have libdvdcss2 installed. anyone have any idea why?
[08:42] <sparr> moj0rising: do you have a DVD drive?
[08:47] <moj0rising> hi.
[08:47] <moj0rising> yes.
[08:47] <moj0rising> :D
[08:48] <moj0rising> here's the story....
[08:48] <moj0rising> I've been playing dvds fine with this machine for some time.
[08:48] <moj0rising> I am not sure about the timing but I think this broke once I did some updates some time back
[08:48] <moj0rising> not sure
[08:48] <eagles0513875> moj0rising type it all on one line plz
[08:51] <moj0rising> I installed libdvdcss and kubuntu-restricted extras. a while back. they were still installed when I first started having problems. attempting an install of them with apt-get did not work, of course -- it just said the packages were already installed. I tried removing them and resintalling with the same results. I have also searched oogle and ubuntuforums but I have yet to see anyone with the same issue.
[08:51] <moj0rising> there, you go, eagles0513875.  ;)
[08:51] <moj0rising> by oogle, I meant Google.
[08:51] <eagles0513875> just a rule in here moj0rising nothing against you bro
[08:52] <macjason0607>  whats a good term command to format a drive to dos/ntfs ? mkfs.dos ?
[08:52] <moj0rising> Yup. IRC thing -- no scrolling. It's a bit hard to avoid sometimes though. If you put too much on one line, people complain about that too.
[08:52] <eagles0513875> moj0rising its better then typing like u did before though
[08:53] <eagles0513875> when they say all in one line its like u did the 2nd time
[08:54] <jussi01> moj0rising: try running the manual install script - /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[08:54] <moj0rising> got any ideas about this libdvdcss stuff? I forgot to mention, when I attempt to play a DVD in Kaffiene or any other player, I get a message about not having libdvdcss installed even though it is.
[08:54] <moj0rising> did that.
[08:54] <moj0rising> seems to work fine
[08:55] <moj0rising> .. but I still can not play dvds. I can put that on the pastebin if you like.
[08:55] <jussi01> moj0rising: weird. tried othe players? other dvds?
[08:56] <jussi01> Id definately give vlc a go
[08:56] <moj0rising> yep. completely weird. I have been messing with this on and off for a month or so. can't find any reason it doesn't work nor can I find anyone else who's had or seen the problem.
[08:56] <moj0rising> I'll try getting vlc now..
[09:00] <moj0rising> vlc does not work -- "Unable to open 'media:/scd0'"
[09:03] <moj0rising> ah. all right, guys. Thanks for taking a stab at it. I'm going to bed. Hopefully, I figure it out soon. Once I do, I'll post it to the forums or something. Later.
[09:08] <maxim__> I love kubuntu :-)
[09:09] <Guest1785> canale italiano?
[09:10] <bazhang> !it
[09:27] <user7> heilà.... goodmorning...
[09:28] <user7> How can I set for auto adjourning in Kubuntu 7.10?
[09:31] <jussi01> user7:  err, auto adjourning?
[09:33] <user7> hi ussi
[09:33] <user7> ehm
[09:33] <Tm_T> ussi =)
[09:33] <user7> jussi01: hi buddy...
[09:34] <jussi01> Tm_T: shush!!
[09:34] <user7> jussi01: thanks already done
[09:34] <jussi01> user7: ok :D
[09:34] <user7> jussi01: :-)
[09:34] <jussi01> user7: you may also find this useful:
[09:34] <jussi01> !it
[09:35] <user7> jussi01: thanks buddy, but in italian they're no so clear in explanation
[09:36] <jussi01> user7: ok. just making sure you knew about it :D
[09:36] <user7> jussi01: and then i had to improve my english
[09:41] <ocs> hi. i don't remember which is the page for configuring printers... can you write the link? thnks
[09:41] <bazhang> !cups
[09:43] <ocs> bazhang: i just need a link for localhost, nothing else.
[09:44] <fred_> Bonjour
[09:47] <Evolution2> could i ask a question
[09:47] <Tm_T> ask away, that's the point of this channel (:)
[09:48] <palbuddy> hello! I'm having trouble with the new freeagent hard drives under linux
[09:48] <palbuddy> though being a resourceful newbie I found this website http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/DealWithAutoSpinDownOnSeagateFreeAgent
[09:49] <palbuddy> how do I get that to work with KDE 3.5.9 and ubuntu 8.10
[09:50] <depesz> hi. i installed kubuntu 8.10, and kde 4.1. how can i make keyboard shortcut that will launch program? in previous versions it was available in control panel. now - it's not there, but i found appropriate option in "menu editor" - but it doesn't seem to work.
[09:50] <Evolution2> um well for some reason, i installed firefox on my KDE 4.1 kubuntu 8.10 and shortly after i rebooted cause i fixed the gnome rendered fonts. the sound. knetworkmnager and battery icons in my taskbar decided to disappear. any ideas?
[09:51] <Evolution2> depesz: thye made it easier by clicking the kmenu then typing . enter and voila
[09:52] <depesz> Evolution2: sorry, i'm not sure if i understand.
[09:52] <johannes_> hi, I use a 64bit kubuntu, and want to install labview, is it possible to install a 32bit labview on a 64bit kubuntu 8.10?
[09:53] <afeijo> I ran fsck after boot but I stil cant save files in my sda7 partition, what else can I do?
[09:53] <depesz> Evolution2: i clicked on kmenu, typed "." then enter, and it just listed some apps.
[09:54] <Evolution2> depesz: it;s kinda of a pain to set key shortcuts for each application when you can just click on the kmenu. start typing the application name and it filtered them for you
[09:54] <depesz> Evolution2: but i want shortcut.
[09:54] <depesz> i dont want to click.
[09:54] <depesz> so, do i understand that it's not possible in 4.1 to have keyboard shortcut to launch application?
[09:54] <afeijo> yeah it is
[09:54] <Evolution2> you can
[09:55] <depesz> how?
[09:55] <afeijo> go to system config, keyboard, shortcuts
[09:55] <Evolution2> Tm_T: any ideas?
[09:55] <depesz> "system settings" i guess - i dont see "system config"
[09:56] <Bou> I just tried using the shorcut feature when editing the menu, and you're right, it doesn't look working
[09:56] <depesz> afeijo: clicked on "keyboard and mouse", and then "shortcuts.
[09:56] <depesz> what now?
[09:56] <Bou> or maybe we don't understand how it should work
[09:56] <depesz> it definitel doesn't look like working to me.
[09:56] <afeijo> depesz: check the options there.  Also, right click on kmenu button, and select edit
[09:57] <depesz> afeijo: i did right click on kmeny, edit, found application, set shortcut, but it doesn't work.
[09:57] <afeijo> editing kmenu is probably what you want, you'll find every app you have there, and a shortcut button
[09:57] <Bou> I just righ-cliked on Kmenu and edited a shorctu for GIMP but it doesn't work here too
[09:57] <Bou> +1
[09:57] <afeijo> depesz: realy? weird, it works here
[09:57] <Bou> afeijo:you're using KDE 4.1 ?
[09:57] <depesz> as for options - in kde 3.5 there was basically copy of menu in "keyboard shortcuts" screen.
[09:58] <afeijo> my problem is with my main partition, it dont save files with my user! damn
[09:58] <afeijo> Bou: not right now, but I have it installed and I used shortcuts
[09:58] <Bou> ok
[09:58] <Bou> weird
[09:58] <depesz> afeijo: i right click on kmenu.
[09:58] <depesz> then i choose "menu editor"
[09:58] <depesz> i find the application i want (konsole)
[09:59] <afeijo> thats what I do, I use win+k to open konsole
[09:59] <depesz> in advanced tab i click on shortcut key, and press windows-n.
[09:59] <depesz> it shows "Meta+N" in the menu edit window
[09:59] <Bou> depesz: I did the same and it's not working here neither
[10:00] <depesz> but it doesn't work.
[10:00] <depesz> i do "save", close menu editor, press windows-n - and nothing happens.
[10:02] <depesz> also - is there any way to prevent konsole from "chdir" to current directory when i create new tab in it?
[10:10] <user7> azz... i thought that i have solved ... but repository seems don't want to adjourn packet ...
[10:10] <user7> how to enable auto adjournig?
[10:10] <user7> kubuntu 7.10
[10:15] <johannes_> does 32bit software work on an 64 bit OS?
[10:18] <clusby> Hi, has anyone had problems where kern.log, messages, syslog are huge (2GB)?
[10:19] <clusby> Its all full with "bad: scheduling from the idle thread" messages
[10:25] <knusperfrosch> clusby: bug 286285
[10:25] <knusperfrosch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/286285
[10:26] <clusby> cheers knusperfrosch - just found it :-)
[10:26] <clusby> is it relatively safe to get intrepid-proposed?
[10:27] <knusperfrosch> intrepid wasn't save from day-0 ;)
[10:29] <clusby> haha well thats probably valid!
[10:33] <ari> hi
[10:33] <ari> comment ca va les copains ?
[10:35] <Zealot12> hello everyone
[10:36] <Zealot12> if anyone can help me to install ubuntu from kubuntu, much help is appreciated
[10:39] <knusperfrosch> Zealot12: i'll suggest: install ubuntu-desktop, deinstall kubuntu-desktop.
[10:39] <ocs> I have added my_printer through CPUS. i can print documents with common applications (such as editors) but if i try to stat all the printers with lpstat -a i don't see it. and if I try: "lp -h my_printer foo.txt" it doesn't work...
[10:40] <jack_> Hello, I am running Kubuntu Hardy from inside of Ubuntu 8.10 in a virtual machine, & I was just wondering how I can get Kubuntu to see the folders on my Ubuntu?
[10:41] <Zealot12> so when i do that, will i lose any data or is it just switching desktops? i guess (as a noob) i was confused as to if all the *buntus were included on the .iso. i installed Kubuntu 8.10 first
[10:41] <knusperfrosch> jack_: depends on what youre using.
[10:41] <jack_> Virtualbox
[10:41] <max06|work> good morning
[10:42] <nomisery> good morning
[10:42] <max06|work> is it right, that Programs (Kubuntu 8.10, KDE4.1) won't use the QT-Color-Scheme, when they've been startet automatically after reboot?
[10:42] <nomisery> yesterday i installed the kubuntu package on my system and realy liked it. one question, does adept use apt-get or aptitude as backend?
[10:43] <knusperfrosch> jack_: shut down your virtual machine and go to the settings of that vm and do what ever you want in "shared folders"
[10:44] <jack_> I already did that
[10:44] <jack_> I just don't know where they would show up in here.
[10:45] <jack_> (I am talking to you from the VM)
[10:45] <knusperfrosch> jack_: read the comment in the settings window
[10:46] <jack_> Isn't it a little late for that now? :p
[10:46] <jack_> Couldn't you just tell me what the comment says?
[10:46] <knusperfrosch> sec..
[10:47] <knusperfrosch> jack_: mount -t vboxsf share mount_point
[10:47] <knusperfrosch> or smb://vboxsvr7share
[10:48] <jack_> mount: mount point mount_point does not exist
[10:49] <jack_> & smb://vboxsvr7share comes up empty.
[10:49] <jack_> not unless you want mew to mount that
[10:51] <joelson> massa
[10:51] <messed-up> hiall.. i just got a asus eee 1000,, i would like to install kubuntu on it! is it possible ?
[10:52] <jack_> The names I gave the shared founders was jack & jacklocal
[10:52] <jack_> folders*
[10:53] <jack_> knusperfrosch
[10:55] <messed-up> my eee got xp installed. how do i change to kubuntu? do i need a spesial version of linux for this mini pc?
[10:55] <Tm_T> !eeepc
[10:56] <Tm_T> messed-up: ^
[10:56] <messed-up> thanks
[10:56] <depesz> another shortcuts related question - where do i set now keyboard shortcuts to switch between tabs in konsole?
[10:56] <knusperfrosch> jack_: replace share and mount_point!
[10:56] <depesz> i dont see it in konsole->keyboard shortcuts ?!
[10:56] <jack_> knusperfrosch with what?
[11:02] <knusperfrosch> mount -t vboxsf jacklocal /where/ever/you/want/to/mount/it
[11:07] <jack_> Anyone?
[11:07] <jack_> O sorry, didn't see your post
[11:13] <jack_> knusperfrosch mount: unknown filesystem type 'vboxsf'
[11:14] <jack_> Or another saltution to m,y real poblem would be a way to get konqueror 3.5 installed on 8.10, because deep down that is what I really want.
[11:16] <MR-S> can anyone help with firefox 3  ? ( open containing folder issue )
[11:39] <afeijo> how can I check free disk space?
[11:40] <nysin> df
[11:40] <nysin> df -h gives human-readable units
[11:41] <afeijo> thats what I'm using, it is weird, it says I have 0 free, but it should be 100mb
[11:41] <afeijo> 9,3G size, 9,2G used
[11:42] <afeijo> I need to free more space... but what do delete? lol
[11:42] <max06|work> afeijo, all in ~/.
[11:42] <afeijo> hahaha
[11:42] <max06|work> sry...^^
[11:42] <afeijo> rm -R ~/.
[11:42] <afeijo> thanks! :D:D
[11:42] <max06|work> np :)
[11:44] <afeijo> how to enlarge / partition thru shell?
[11:44] <depesz> it might sound as trolling, but it's just out of frustration: kde 4.1 (kubuntu 8.10) makes me consider switching to gnome :(
[11:45] <dabuzz> Bonjour :)
[11:45] <dabuzz> anyone know how to use c++ code in konversation ?
[11:46] <dabuzz> ( sorry for bas english )
[11:46] <dabuzz> ( bad )
[11:46] <max06|work> bye
[11:48] <juanantonio> Hello. Anyone can help me configure OpenGL setting? The ones I have are not working
[11:52] <DexterF> ok, so how do I start a mono app in 8.04?
[11:55] <angelbreath> hi anyone from greece here?
[12:23] <fehrp> guys! OpenOffice3 does not work after the latest update
[12:24] <fehrp> why do you guys keep releasing from WORKING to NOT WORKING software updates? In one word, any regardless of the netiquette, there is only one word for it: Shit
[12:25] <jussi01> !ohmy | fehrp
[12:26] <Bou> I thought oO 2.4 was shipped with Kubuntu, not oO 3 ?
[12:26] <fehrp> I am sorry, jussi01, but I'm in need of WORKING software, yeah, strange, I know, right?
[12:26] <jussi01> fehrp: is the update from backports or?
[12:27] <fehrp> Bou, we have documents at work, which contain commentaries which don't show up in 2.4
[12:27] <Bou> I see, that's embarassing indeed
[12:27] <fehrp> jussi01: how can I revert to the last version? yes
[12:28] <jussi01> fehrp: remove the program, remove the repo, then reinstall the program from the stable repo. and PLEASE report a but
[12:29] <jussi01> bug*
[12:29] <fehrp> I can't imagine, that it does not exist already, but okay
[12:29] <jussi01> better a dupe, then not there at all.
[12:30] <fehrp> jussi01: the stable repo only has 2.4, I NEED 3.0
[12:30] <jussi01> fehrp: when you use an experimental/unstable repo, you run the risk of it being broken sometime
[12:33] <fehrp> jussi01: that's the problem of kubuntu being always one step behind: you need the newer software that is being considered stable by some, not by others. Now this is bad: one needs the new stuff, but takes the risk of having a broken packet or updating into a broken packet. A death circle if you need to work with software NOT from the last year(decade for some distros *g)
[12:33] <fehrp> there should be the possibility to always revert to the last 1 or 2 versions of ANY software
[12:34] <fehrp> why should this be so hard?
[12:34] <fehrp> why is only the newest available? Regardless of stable or unstable branch
[12:34] <jussi01> fehrp: I understand your concern, but this is a subject that has been discussed a lot in the past and is probably more suitable for the #kubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-offtopic channels
[12:35] <fehrp> okay
[12:58] <Guest32461> hola cual es el canal en español?
[12:59] <gork> necesito ayuda... tengo problemas con el openoffice...
[12:59] <jussi01> !es
[12:59] <gork> inicia pero se cierra solo despues de menos de un segundo
[13:03] <gork> hi, i'm having troubles with openoffice3
[13:03] <gork> i start OOo, and it close at few seconds
[13:08] <leory> hi everybory
[13:08] <gork> Hi leory
[13:09] <leory> hi
[13:10] <leory> how are you?
[13:10] <gork> very bad
[13:10] <leory> hi gork
[13:11] <leory> do you like rock roll?
[13:11] <gork> yes
[13:11] <gork> do you?
[13:11] <leory> do you like angra or rapsody?
[13:11] <leory> i like rock
[13:12] <leory> do you know speark portuguese?
[13:12] <gork> spanish
[13:12] <leory> humm
[13:13] <leory> usted ten el sistema linux en tu pc?
[13:14] <gork> si
[13:14] <leory> usted sabe usar el systema?
[13:15] <gork> mas o menos..
[13:16] <gork> voce necesita ayuda?
[13:17] <leory> si
[13:17] <gork> en que?
[13:17] <leory> no estoy conseguindo colocar mi musicas no mi pc
[13:18] <leory> tengo my cd de musicas,mas no estoy conseguindo passar para el pc
[13:18] <gork> no puedes pasarla a tu pc o escucharla en tu pc?
[13:21] <Elijah_Frost> Good day gentlemen. How do I reconfigure layout change? Neither ctrl+shift nor alt+shift work for me
[13:21] <leory> no mi caso, queiria copiar mi musicas en mi pc
[13:22] <gork> copialas con KB3
[13:23] <leory> este programa es parecido com o windows media player?
[13:23] <gork> lo tienes instalado?
[13:23] <gork> es parecido com nero
[13:23] <leory> ah si
[13:23] <gork> el que se parece a windows media player es amarok, claro esta, ES MUCHO MEJOR QUE ESA PORQUERIA
[13:24] <jussi01> !en | gork leory
[13:24] <leory> you concordo com usted
[13:24] <leory> yo concordo com usted
[13:24] <leory> mas tentarei
[13:25] <leory> mucho obrigado
[13:25] <jussi01> leory: english only please!
[13:25] <leory> usted es un amigo
[13:26] <leory> hi jussi01
[13:26] <Elijah_Frost>  amigos, we use english here =)
[13:27] <gork> jussi, what is the problem? i'm, traying to help a buddy... he has a problem, so we can help... no matters the language!!! that ubuntu measn... for human beings
[13:27] <jussi01> gork: there are channels for other languages...
[13:27] <gork> tranquil@ leory, buscame cuando quieras...
[13:27] <jussi01> !es | gork
[13:28] <gork> #C3 jussi01... asl?
[13:28] <jussi01> gork: last warning, english only here!
[13:29] <leory> why?
[13:29] <gork>  jussi01: asl
[13:30] <jussi01> gork: this channelis for kubuntu support only, please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter in english
[13:30] <jiang> 有没有懂中文的朋友？～～～
[13:30] <jussi01> !cn | jiang
[13:30] <leory> who is you?
[13:31] <jiang> 我不
[13:31] <gork>  jussi01: Age Sex and Location? can't we be friends¿?
[13:31] <jiang> 请说
[13:31] <jiang> 我不会外文
[13:31] <jiang> 有懂中文的没有？老大。。。。
[13:31] <jussi01> gork: Some people find that rude to be asked - this isnt just a chat room its a support channel, please keep on topic!
[13:32] <gork> jussi01: i have a problem with OOo, can you help me?
[13:32] <jussi01> jiang: join #ubuntu-cn
[13:32] <jiang> 我不懂，，你能不能
[13:32] <jiang> me too
[13:32] <jussi01> gork: no. its broken at the moment.
[13:32] <jiang> i have a lot of problem...
[13:33] <RurouniJones> !cn | jiang
[13:33] <gork> it's broken¿?¿ i have homeworks to do!
[13:33] <RurouniJones> Join the channel above jiang, join #ubuntu-cn or one of the others
[13:33] <jussi01> gork: uninstall open office 3, remove the repo and install 2.4 from the stable repo then
[13:33] <jiang> may i help you?
[13:34] <jiang> what can i do for you ,,i just know that
[13:34] <gork> please tell me how to install 2.4v...
[13:34] <jiang> over
[13:34] <jiang> i don't know too
[13:35] <jiang> who can help a chinaese .....
[13:35] <jussi01> jiang: type this:
[13:35] <bazhang> jiang, you are in #ubuntu-cn
[13:35] <jussi01> /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:35] <bazhang> jiang, you should ask in that channel
[13:35] <jiang> #ubuntu-cn
[13:35] <gork>  please tell me how to install 2.4v.
[13:36] <bazhang> he's already there
[13:36] <gork>  jussi01 please tell me how to install 2.4v.
[13:36] <Dragonath> gork: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[13:36] <gork> intrepid
[13:37] <gork> the last one
[13:37] <Dragonath> ok, I am not very familiar with that
[13:37] <Dragonath> but from what jussi said before, you need to uninstall openoffice first
[13:37] <Dragonath> gork: do you know how to do that?
[13:38] <gork> Dragonath: can you tell me how remove OO03 and how to install OOo 2.4?
[13:38] <Dragonath> I am trying to
[13:38] <jiang> 你想做什么？
[13:38] <jiang> 请问在这里面可以说中文么？
[13:38] <bazhang> jiang, english here
[13:40] <Dragonath> gork: can you uninstall openoffice 3?
[13:41] <gork> aptitude purge openoffice
[13:41] <gork> i did that
[13:41] <Dragonath> is it uninstalled now?
[13:42] <gork> nop
[13:43] <gork>  Dragonath: X-Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[13:43] <gork> Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC)
[13:43] <gork> These errors are reported asynchronously,
[13:44] <Dragonath> gork:you get these errors when trying to uninstall openoffice?
[13:44] <gork> set environment variable SAL_SYNCHRONIZE to 1 to help debugging
[13:44] <gork> no... when run OO in konsole
[13:44] <Dragonath> gork: openoffice 3 doesn't work well in 8.10, you need to uninstall it
[13:45] <gork> ops...
[13:45] <Dragonath> gork: how did you install openoffice 3?
[13:45] <gork> no
[13:45] <gork> teach me please
[13:45] <Dragonath> teach you what?
[13:46] <gork> i dint read the question... sorry
[13:46] <gork> i had installed it from repositories
[13:47] <Dragonath> gork: you added a new repository to install it, am I right?
[13:48] <gork> yes
[13:48] <tyfon> sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l|grep openoffice.org|cut -d " " -f 3`
[13:49] <gork> it's working tyfon
[13:49] <tyfon> then remove it from your sources list :p
[13:49] <tyfon> the new repository
[13:49] <gork> well, i had removed it from the source list before you wrote to me
[13:50] <tyfon> thats fine
[13:50] <Dragonath> now if you reinstall openoffice it should be 2.4 which is ok
[13:51] <gork> sudo aptitude install openoffice???
[13:51] <tyfon> use the gui and select openoffice :)
[13:51] <gork> Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[13:57] <afeijo> to enlarge / partition, I need bootcd ?
[13:57] <afeijo> ops, livecd ?
[14:03] <afeijo> to enlarge / partition, I need livecd ? and what program should I run?
[14:05] <eagles0513875> holy cow
[14:05] <eagles0513875> PARTY TIME
[14:05] <juanantonio> Hello. I have installed the last driver through EnvyNG, but I have the GLX libraries not worrking, can anyone help me?
[14:05] <JonnyT> hi all
[14:13] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[14:15] <eagles0513875> JontheEchidna :)
[14:32] <Guest28316> Hello all, I have a movie "movie-xvid.avi, and vlc, or another media player in kubuntu doesnt play it, what do I have to do????
[14:33] <afeijo> Guest28316: it play other avi files?
[14:34] <||Z3rro> dfsffa
[14:35] <afeijo> affsfd
[14:35] <Guest28316> afeijo, yes other files I have no prob with
[14:35] <afeijo> so that file is probably corrupt
[14:35] <afeijo> torrent? try another source
[14:49] <isa> hola
[14:50] <mykola> Привіт!
[14:53] <yoyoma> alterar senha de root no kubuntu
[14:56] <pcfreak_> hi all. can someone help me. I have my old home directory handy here and I want restore my settings for konversation. already copied konversationrc but still no change!
[15:02] <mihai__> mornin'
[15:02] <mihai__> anyone want to help out a noob?
[15:08] <comedit> I have a an installation of kubuntu 8.04 its says in the system tray mixer cannot befound
[15:08] <comedit> it is a virtual machine
[15:09] <comedit> which I think should not make adifffrence
[15:09] <comedit> I can't find the cause
[15:10] <comedit> anybody a clue where I should search
[15:11] <mihai__> I got a case of "Error 13: Invalid or Unsupported Executable Format" - I googled, follwed the instructions, nothing helped
[15:12] <mihai__> kubuntu boots up just fine, but if I select Windows, there this error
[15:14] <juanantonio> Hello. I got this message when configuring my Nvidia VGA with Nvidia x server settings in the tab Open GL/GLX "Fail to query the GLX server vendor."
[15:18] <wallabee> anyone know if there are any widgets besides those listed under "install new widgets"??
[15:19] <Bou> you can get some from Intercet (www.kde-look.org)
[15:19] <wallabee> There are like four or five widgets but i want things like a stock widget or a lava lamp or something i can add to make my "dashboard" more useful to me
[15:19] <wallabee> Bou: do i just download them and install from file??
[15:20] <Bou> well..
[15:20] <Bou> wallabee: plasmoids on kde-look.org often need to be compiled
[15:20] <Bou> wallabee: that can be complicated sometimes if you're not used to
[15:21] <pcbase> prova
[15:21] <wallabee> Bou: thanks im new to linux relatively but can find my way around for the most part.  Is there a good guide on compiling in Kubuntu? special tool or command line??
[15:21] <genii> !it | pcbase
[15:22] <pcbase> ok, thank you
[15:22] <Bou> wallabee: check the weather-forecast plasmoid on kde-look.org, there is a quick guide to compile it
[15:23] <wallabee> Bou: thanks a million!
[15:29] <drif> anyone used xmove?
[15:30] <val_> when i play a video on vlc flashes all the time anyone know why?
[15:31] <mkargar> hello!Iwant upgrade my kubuntu 8.4.1 to 8.10(By DVD!No Internet!),but I recive error!?
[15:32] <mkargar> * receive
[15:32] <eagles> !ghost
[15:35] <mkargar> ?
[15:39] <bentob0x> when someone talks to me through the skype chat, the application is flashing in the taskbar on all desktops, is there a way to get it to stay on the desktop it first was?
[15:40] <comedit> I messed up my systemtray /taskbar in kubuntu 8.10 (i per accident deleted the taskbar)
[15:40] <comedit> however I can't find how to repair this
[15:40] <comedit> it only gives me like add widgets
[15:41] <JontheEchidna> add the taskmanager widget to the panel
[15:42] <bravo> i have 640MB RAM ... my kubuntu 8.10 hangs !! HELP !!
[15:42] <comedit> I did this allready but it is not showingup
[15:43] <comedit> somehow now suddenly it does
[15:44] <benklop> bravo: i might suggest a slightly different tone.. and maybe some more details.
[15:44] <benklop> details always help
[15:44] <comedit> JontheEchidna: thanks
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[15:46] <bravo> i have No graphics card.... P4 2.4Ghz.... 845 chipset
[15:47] <benklop> bravo: also, if it never even gets to a graphical login screen, then it might not be kubuntu specific, and you could ask in the ubuntu channel too...
[15:47] <benklop> does it lock up before or after trying to log in?
[15:47] <bravo> i get the KDE screen
[15:47] <benklop> does it even get that far?
[15:47] <benklop> ok. so you try to log in, and it locks up after that
[15:48] <bravo> i get the desktop screen
[15:48] <benklop> ok, then when does it lock up?
[15:51] <bravo> when i move the mouse
[15:51] <bravo> i cant even shutdown
[15:52] <bravo> it doesnt take keyboard input also
[15:53] <benklop> ok, it sounds to me like XOrg is having an issue, assuming the keyboard and mouse are plugged in right :)
[15:54] <bravo> yep
[15:54] <bravo> i have Windows, Ubuntu...
[15:54] <bravo> only kubuntu has probs
[15:55] <bravo> i thought its bcoz of RAM
[15:55] <bravo> i had same problems in win Vista and later removed tat shit frm my comp
[15:55] <benklop> seems unlikely to me, should be more than enough ram to at least move the mouse :)
[15:56] <bravo> hmmm... even am clueless :-(
[15:56] <bravo> planning to buy a new comp to run kubuntu :D
[15:57] <benklop> but unfortunately i have to leave so maybe another person here cn help..
[15:57] <bravo> ok
[15:57] <bravo> thanks
[16:05] <fale> why in the kde4.2b1 kopete package is not present the msn support?
[16:10] <Black_Monkey> fale: from what I understand, it requires the libmsn package, which isn't availavle in intrepid yet
[16:10] <||arifaX> I think my webcam uses wrong resolution how can I change it or verify. manufacturer says 640x480 it uses 160x120 at the moment which is ugly
[16:11] <fale> Black_Monkey: than we will have to wait, isn't it?
[16:11] <Black_Monkey> I guess
[16:12] <JamesSVK> hi all
[16:12] <JamesSVK> why multimedia keys didnt work in amarok2?
[16:18] <val_> i cant update amarok2?
[16:18] <val_> howcan i download it?
[16:20] <fale> val_: which version do you have?
[16:35] <toby_> Amarok 2 has been released! ...but, woe! I cannot install it!
[16:36] <toby_> The instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0 ... they simply don't work??!
[16:36] <toby_> There isn't any package called amarok-kde4 in the repos... unless I'm doing something wrong here?
[16:36] <Bou> i followed them and got no problem
[16:36] <Bou> have you added the repo that they talk about?
[16:37] <Bou> and enabled it?
[16:37] <randagio> ragazzi ki mi può dare una mano???
[16:37] <toby_> Yep - it's ticked in Adept: "http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu"
[16:37] <randagio> non riesco a masterizzare i dvd
[16:37] <randagio> i cd invece me li fa...
[16:38] <Bou> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[16:38] <Bou> isn't it different?
[16:38] <toby_> Bou: yep, I have the "intrepid main" bit too
[16:39] <toby_> And I've ticked Proposed and Unsupported updates
[16:39] <Bou> have you updated after this?
[16:40] <toby_> Not done a full update, no. It lists 124 updates available but I don't really want to install 124 unsupported updates. I don't even see amarok-kde4 in the package list though
[16:41] <powertool08> Does anyone know why I can't change to the first window in irssi with alt+1 but can change to others with alt+2 or alt+3?
[16:41] <Bou> toby_: what if you type sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 in a console?
[16:42] <toby_> A-ha... looks promising. But why isn't it showing up in Adept?
[16:43] <Bou> good question
[16:43] <Bou> actually i don't see it neither in adept
[16:43] <Bou> i installed it from konsole
[16:44] <toby_> Bou: Okay, great, I have Amarok 2 now, thanks. There must be something wrong with Adept.
[16:44] <Bou> toby_: it worked?
[16:45] <Bou> ok
[16:45] <toby_> Shall I submit a bug on this do you think?
[16:45] <Bou> talk of it on #kde maybe someone can explain it
[16:45] <Bou> maybe it's because it's a third app repository?
[16:46] <edju> I've googled till I've gone nuts.  Kaffeine keeps reporting the dvd is encrypted, even though libdvdcss is installed.  Any pointers, solutions?
[16:49] <genii> edju: libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 are installed?
[16:50] <edju> genii, Yes, both.
[16:50] <genii> edju: Perhaps you are trying to play a dvd which is from a different region than your dvd player is set for
[16:50] <Skulblaka> o_O
[16:51] <Skulblaka> mais, vous etes anglais?
[16:52] <Goan> Applications like firefox, evolution mail, etc keeps on hanging every so often on my hardy machine. Could there be some bad process?
[16:54] <Goan> and i am left with no other option but to kill those process, and restart them.
[16:54] <jatt> Hi,  u guys know any good app to mount iso i used giso but its really slow and didnt like it much.
[16:54] <jedix> hehe, so the nightly build of the 9th seems to have a problem unlocking
[16:54] <jedix> the desktop lock doesn't recognize my passwd
[16:55] <jatt> help please
[16:56] <Skulblaka> quelqu'un parle français? :s
[16:56] <jussi01> !fr
[16:56] <Skulblaka> cool
[16:58] <Perun> waht a burn prog should I use with KDE4?
[16:59] <mkargar> hello,how to upgrade kubuntu 8.4.1 to 8.10 by dvd?
[17:01] <mkargar> ?
[17:06] <nethans> hi guys..
[17:07] <nethans> I'mm working with ubuntu.. but I dont know which vertion I'm using.. I did a uname -a.. but I'd like to know if my vertion is feisty or what
[17:15] <bibek> hi everyone
[17:15] <landonis> Hi all! Does anyone know a way of pointing kde3 packages that call main kde components to the new kde4 counterparts? I am getting errors of 'Could not launch the browser. Could not find service 'kfmclient'' and 'Could not launch the KDE Help Center. Could not find service 'khelpcenter''  I am running Kubuntu 8.10 and these programs are installed but there seems to be something stopping kde3 programs recognising and using them
[17:15] <landonis> . If anyone could please point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.
[17:16] <JamesSVK> in amarok dont work the keyboard mutlimedia keys
[17:17] <JamesSVK> how to solve it?
[17:21] <Ch1ppy> hey, dolphin lets me tag files with things, but that's kind of useless if I can't search by those tags... is there a way to search for files with a specific tag?
[17:23] <mini-man> Ok, so I just broke my KDE 4.1 install on my EEEPC by attempting to upgrade to 4.2 beta 1 via Kubuntu's experimental repo, but the upgrade seemed to work, no errors, but kwin gripes about a missing .so. Any ideas?
[17:24] <mini-man> kwin doesn't start, I have no connection, with no way to focus windows..
[17:31] <Ch1ppy> actually, I guess a better question for me now is how do I get strigi working? I can't search it...
[17:31] <jussi01> mini-man: try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[17:32] <mini-man> jussi01: can't get connected to wifi
[17:32] <janorcutt> !strigi
[17:32] <jussi01> mini-man: cant you breifly plugin somewhere?
[17:33] <mini-man> probably broke the eee network support because the update apparently overrode the eeepc kernel
[17:33] <mini-man> I'll try..
[17:33] <Ch1ppy> janorcutt: Yes. I have strigi installed and such. But if I try to search it via the applet I get "Protocol not supported strigi" from Konqueror and I don't know of another way to search it?
[17:33] <mini-man> sec
[17:33] <dragon_> good eveening
[17:34] <dragon_> compiz in kubuntu 8.10 ---------bad
[17:35] <jussi01> dragon_: no need for it - use the kwin effects
[17:35] <JuJuBee> What is the command to find out what ip's google uses?
[17:35] <dragon_> but it loads on boot!
[17:36] <dragon_> and crashes.
[17:36] <jussi01> JuJuBee: ping google.com
[17:36] <JuJuBee> That will only reveal one... google uses (so do others) many ip's...
[17:36] <jussi01> JuJuBee: yeah, true
[17:37] <genii> JuJuBee: I like the "showip" firefox extension
[17:42] <JuJuBee> Found it...   dig txt _spf.google.com | grep spf
[17:56] <chase_>  hey whats the cmd in vim to yank 2 lines? isnt it y2l?
[17:58] <Black_Monkey> hi, all my keyboard shortcuts stopped working, and when I tried to go into the kcm module, it gave this error: http://pastebin.com/d6489c772
[18:06] <nedim> How to open kdx (lexe extension)
[18:08] <Skulblaka> kdx :x i read "kids"
[18:13] <raymears> hi everyone. one question, if i may: is there any possibility of using the plasmoids from jaunty (beta) - which i've installed alongside intrepid -  in intrepid?
[18:21] <sere_> where can i get flash 9 a
[18:24] <sere_> anyone know where can i get flash 9
[18:25] <krio> hi every body
[18:25] <krio> the questio is:
[18:26] <krio> may i upgrade the ooo 3.0 and gimp 2.6 on my kubuntu 7.04
[18:26] <krio> ??
[18:27] <chase_>  sere_: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[18:27] <sere_> chase_: thats for 10 i need 9 :o
[18:28] <Guest53960> hey
[18:28] <chase_>  sere_: why dont you look in the package manager for 9?
[18:29] <sere_> chase_: its not there
[18:31] <chase_>  sere_: http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html#fp9 - this has all sorts of updates and whatnot for the developers and such. try looking through the adobe website
[18:31] <sere_> chase_: thanks :)
[18:31] <chase_>  sere_: scratch that. go here http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14266&sliceId=2
[18:34] <sere_> chase_: ok thanks
[18:36] <krio> no one can help me??'
[18:37] <Black_Monkey> krio: you could try googling packages, but maybe such new versions won't be available for 7.04
[18:39] <krio> yes black i've got the pakage. deb, but i wont be sure
[18:39] <krio> and no make mistake
[18:41] <raymears> doesn't seem like there's much going on in here right now. but i'll ask again: is there any possibility of using the plasmoids from jaunty (beta) - which i've installed alongside intrepid -  in intrepid? thanks
[18:42] <krio> in synaptic there are two way to remove packages, what are the difference??
[18:42] <genii> raymears: You might want to ask in #ubuntu+1    ( #kubuntu+1 just forwards there)
[18:42] <raymears> genii: thanks
[18:52] <sere_> i use fluxbox and trying to use a screen saver....anyone know how i would do that with kscreensaver
[19:20] <hardyharhar> hi
[19:20] <hardyharhar> can someone tell me how to get kde4 in hardy ?
[19:20] <genii> !hi
[19:21] <genii> hardyharhar: kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:21] <hardyharhar> I read that replaces kde3
[19:21] <val_> problem with my adept manager cant open it help?
[19:22] <hardyharhar> val_: open it in the command line and see what the output is
[19:23] <hardyharhar> genii: does that replace the kde3 in hardy or not?
[19:27] <hardyrr> val_: you can't use the lock, so some program is already using it. i don't know how to tell you without using the command line though
[19:27] <genii> hardyrr: In hardy it makes another ~/.kde4 folder. In Ibex is when the kubuntu-desktop package changed, it defaults to ~/.kde which will overwrite any older kde
[19:27] <hardyrr> genii: that's great.
[19:29] <HavocXphere> To clear the lock: Press ctrl-F2 type in konsole, hit enter, type in "sudo dpkg --configure -a" without the "" things and hit enter again.
[19:32] <bobesponja> my amarok2 can't play mp3, anything I need to install? (used to work with 1.x)
[19:32] <eagles0513875> bobesponja its working fine still for me
[19:33] <eagles0513875> bobesponja try installing ubuntu-restriced-extras thats what i had to do to get mp3 support unless there is some other issue which im not sure of
[19:33] <hardyrr> genii: that's for kde 4.0 damn it. i was hoping at least 4.1
[19:33] <hardyrr> but thanks anyway
[19:37] <jackd> i am the only one who can't directly unpack a tar.gz using dolphin?
[19:38] <Black_Monkey> jackd: nope. I think there's something on www.kde-look.org to do that
[19:38] <hardyrr> jackd: that's for 4.2 only , at least the time I tried 4.1, it wasn't possible yet. you had to open it in ark
[19:39] <jackd> thx. i keep using the dolphin intern console if its not supported right now :) thanks anyway. just wanted to know.
[19:40] <urmas_> hi
[20:08] <hardyrr> bobesponja: if you still can't read mp3 in amarok, I just read it could be because of the backend, you should need to switch the backend to xine, that is somewhere in the system settings / audio
[20:09] <comedit> I have a few virtual machines running locally in vmware server I need to access these on port 22 however locally it seems not possible
[20:10] <comedit> anybody an idea what could be wrong, I am sure port 22 is open on this machine
[20:10] <sere_> i use fluxbox and trying to use a screen saver....anyone know how i would do that with kscreensaver
[20:10] <comedit> virtual machine i mean
[20:12] <sere_> how do i start kscreensaver in fluxbox
[20:15] <jackd> comedit: do you have configured your VMs to bridged network or NAT?
[20:17] <gab3> any way in the shell to identify what TYPE of dram your computer uses?
[20:18] <genii> gab3:  sudo lshw -v -class memory          might tell you some things.
[20:20] <jackd> gab3: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/check-ram-speed-linux/
[20:21] <gab3> awesome.
[20:21] <gab3> secondly.
[20:22] <gab3> i have a .toc file, and a bin/WAV set (this is not a standard ISO image, it is a turbografx CD) which cdrdao will happily burn to disc.  but i want to make an *image* from that toc file
[20:22] <gab3> ideas?
[20:23] <genii> !info mdf2iso
[20:26] <benbloom> I get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found" and it's true. there is no enable_avahi anywhere on my system. how do i enable avahi? my mt-daapd server is not working :'(
[20:27] <benbloom> ps- I'm happy to do it via CLI. only thing is I can't seem to make it work that way
[20:27] <jared555> is there currently much of a point in running kubuntu 64bit on desktops?
[20:28] <jared555> last time I tried 64 bit on linux it was NOT fun
[20:28] <genii> jared555: Mostly for >3.2 Gb support
[20:28] <jackd> jared555:  only if you have >=4 gb ram and REALLY want to use it. imo...
[20:28] <jackd> yeah. exactly
[20:29] <benbloom> jared555: I've found K64 Hardy to work VERY well.
[20:29] <jared555> why not just activate 4GB support on the 32bit kernel?
[20:30] <benbloom> but I haven't been able to get it working with >=4gb I though it was hardware problems
[20:31] <jackd> jared555: you can use PAE to use of more than 4gb. but a single app will never can make use more ram than on a 32bit sys. however you can run the app twice :)
[20:32] <jared555> k.
[20:32] <jared555> thanks.... I think I am just going to install 32bit for now
[20:32] <jackd> good choice
[20:33] <jared555> lol
[20:33] <jared555> well AFK.... going to reboot this virus infested windows box
[20:33] <benbloom> anyone know about zeroconf/avahi?
[20:34] <hardyrr> what's the advantage to 64 bit anyway? a little more speed? ( i speak for the average desktop computer )
[20:36] <genii> hardyrr: Well, for instance I can create 3 64bit virtual machines and run them in a 4Gb each environment leaving 4Gb for the host
[20:36] <jackd> imagine a motorway with 2 "slots" as 32 bit. and a motorway with 6 "slot" as 64bit. if you have a car for instance you are equal fast on 2 "slots" like in "6"slots :) thats why you wont feel a lot of speed as desktopuser. but on optimized apps like some md5 cracker you will feel a difference
[20:38] <hardyrr> jackd: right, in the specialized apps the difference is felt, forgot about those.
[20:39] <hardyrr> genii: how the "hell" do you run 3 vm's each with 4GB mapped in a computer with only 4GB ram? virtual memory?
[20:40] <genii> hardyrr: No, I have a 64bit install, with 16Gb
[20:40] <genii> hardyrr: So 3x4Gb is 12 and leaving 4 for host OS
[20:41] <hardyrr> ah, that's why asked for the average computer, there's a reason super computers use 64 bits, so the host can use more than 4GB ram :P
[20:41] <jackd> they can host more than 4 gb ram AND the apps can actually use more than 4gb ram. *thats* the diff against 32bit+PAE
[20:42] <hardyrr> of course
[20:45] <Pete_R> hello everyone! Can anyone can tell me how do I make taskbar pannel autohide?
[20:46] <Pete_R> I've installed Kiba-dock and I want to hide main pannel to gain space
[20:46] <hardyrr> Pete_R: you mean the plasma pannel?
[20:47] <Pete_R> yes probably (blush) I don't know exactly how it is named
[20:47] <kevbuntu> hey everybody- i'm sure this has been answered already today, but i haven't been in the channel all day, so i am sorry if i am making people repeat themselves ;)
[20:47] <hardyrr> neither do I, I asked because they are different in kde3 and 4
[20:47] <hardyrr> you can only hide it in kde4.2 , so if you're using kubuntu 8.10, you can't do it yet
[20:47] <kevbuntu> i was wondering why i am having trouble getting the stable version of Amarok2 on my kubuntu intrepid
[20:48] <kevbuntu> i followed the tutorials on the website
[20:48] <kevbuntu> and at amarok's website
[20:48] <kevbuntu> but adept is not giving me amarok2??
[20:48] <JontheEchidna> kevbuntu: amarok-kde4 is the package to install
[20:49] <kevbuntu> JontheEchidna: for the stable release of amarok2??
[20:49] <JontheEchidna> yes
[20:50] <kevbuntu> it's not showing up in adept, can i get it in apt-get??
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> yes
[20:50] <kevbuntu> ok
[20:50] <kevbuntu> thanks
[20:50] <Jared555> hey, I am getting a buffer io error on device sr0 when trying to start the installer on kubuntu 8.10.... any ideas what would be causing this?
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> I get that error too, it's not really an issue in my experience
[20:51] <hardyrr> Jared555: i'm gonna guess problems reading from the cd
[20:51] <Jared555> taking quite some time to boot up
[20:51] <Nicolae> Jared555: I've had that issue with a bad burn before
[20:51] <Jared555> guess I will try reburning the disk..... thanks
[20:52] <Nicolae> try verifying it first.
[20:52] <hardyrr> Jared555: could be from the reader....
[20:52] <Nicolae> "Check CD for Defects" or whatnot.
[20:52] <hardyrr> but yeah, go with check cd for defects
[21:00] <kevbuntu> JontheEchidna: i got it just fine through apt-get... thanks for your help!
[21:00] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome
[21:02] <kevbuntu> JontheEchidna: do you think Kubuntu is aware of that package not being there? i.e. should I make a bug report, or do you think the Kubuntu folks are all over it already and it will be fixed soon?
[21:03] <JontheEchidna> It's a known bug with adept
[21:03] <JontheEchidna> running: sudo update-apt-xapian-index should fix it
[21:03] <JontheEchidna> (make it appear)
[21:04] <Pete_R> so, is there any way for me to hide the main (taskbar) pannel in kubuntu 8.10?
[21:05] <powertool08> I'm trying to use vnc over a ssh tunnel and it is unusably slow, whats a recommended upload speed for the vncserver to be on? Mine is 512kb/s up
[21:07] <kevbuntu> JontheEchidna: thanks... i ran the command. didn't check adept to see if it's there, but i'm sure it worked.
[21:20] <ian__> help please.... openoffice no longer works after upgrading today.  Crashes upon opening (after presentation wizard).  Theirs a weird border also around buttons
[21:21] <kevbuntu> ian__: that makes no sense. hahaha... what version did you upgrade to??
[21:22] <hardyrr> ian__: you could try and remove the openoffice settings folder, after backing up of course
[21:22] <ian__> 3.0.0-6
[21:23] <hardyrr> that sort of stuff is usually configuration file related, because there would be no way they packaged a broken openoffice
[21:24] <ian__> I just renamed the .openoffice.org directory and re-tryed running the program, but the same thing happened
[21:24] <ian__> I think it's more complicated because of the weird graphics/button
[21:25] <hardyrr> i'm out of suggestions :(
[21:26] <hardyrr> unless... some sort of shared library left behing
[21:26] <hardyrr> *behind
[21:26] <ian__> is there a way to downgrade?
[21:26] <hardyrr> and i don't know how to find those
[21:26] <hardyrr> sure, sudo apt-get remove <package-name>
[21:27] <hardyrr> and then go to openoffice get the 2.4 or something
[21:28] <ian__> the previous 3.0.0 package worked fine though... I can't select a version from the sources?
[21:28] <hardyrr> don't know
[21:29] <hardyrr> not throught apt-get though, you'd have to get lucky and find a website mirroring an older package
[21:30] <ian__> ok... first I'll try removing everything and then re-installing the package
[21:31] <hardyrr> good luck with that, it's a nasty problem
[21:32] <sigma__> guys on kde4.2 - hows the konq browsing speed now? still really lagging behind firefox?
[21:36] <hardyrr> if you use the webkit part, it's quite speedy. and firefox is slower in linux than in windows ( with my experience at least ).
[21:38] <ian__> Well it works now!  But I must not have installed some themes or something because it's very plain
[21:38] <ian__> I wonder if the theme was the problem
[21:38] <hardyrr> lol -_-
[21:39] <hardyrr> install the theme and see for youself
[21:39] <sigma__> hardyrr: how do you use webkit in konq kde4.1.3?
[21:40] <hardyrr> let me see if it's possible first, I tried it in opensuse 11.0 virtual machine
[21:40] <paolo__> come si usa?
[21:40] <hardyrr> surely it's only a package away
[21:40] <paolo__> a hok
[21:41] <ian__> yup!  it was the openoffice-kde package
[21:41] <ian__> kills it
[21:41] <hardyrr> great, now you know the problem, and maybe a bug report ? hehe
[21:42] <hardyrr> sigma__: try this: sudo apt-get install webkitkde
[21:42] <sigma__> hardyrr: i found this package - libkdewebkit1 - but how do i enable it once installed?
[21:43] <hardyrr> sigma__: you need to be in browser mode, and then for each page you switch the view mode
[21:43] <hardyrr> but... you could make it default for html documents of course
[21:44] <thumper> where did the intrepid kdiff3 package go?
[21:44] <sigma__> hardyrr: what about php docs?
[21:44] <hardyrr> you need to remember that it's quite unfinished, doesn't support a lot of features, like netscape plugins
[21:44] <hardyrr> that too sure
[21:45] <hardyrr> brb, gonna pay the pizza gu
[21:46] <hardyrr> sigma__: did you figure it out by now?
[21:46] <sigma__> hardyrr: yeah u can say that again!! its not the greatest on formatting! but it is really fast! gives me firefox speeds in konq. if they finish it, it will be great
[21:50] <sigma__> im back to khtml for now, if they put its formatting in webkit you will have one mother of a web engine:) glad to see something is being done about khtml's sluggishness though. facebook is horrible on it, not to mention not supporting the chat feature at all
[21:52] <hardyrr> sigma__: the same thing happens with a lot of sites and their web apps, because they don't code the site thinking about every browser. and that's why konqueror will always have trouble in rendering, and opera too for that matter. web devs code for the 3 most used engines, and that's it
[21:53] <hardyrr> that said, even if konq gets decent webkit, the extensions will always be missing though.
[21:53] <tyfon> khtml is fine :) (prepares to get flamed)
[21:54] <hardyrr> tyfon: depends on where you browse :)
[21:54] <tyfon> but seriously.. it is a _lot_ faster since 3.x at least for sites with huges tables.. and it renders mostly everything for me at meast :p
[21:54] <tyfon> yeah i know
[21:54] <sigma__> tyfon: we wont flame you! it is fine, just a tad bit sluggish
[21:54] <tyfon> ;)
[21:54] <tyfon> compared to 3.x its lightning fast me thinks
[21:55] <sigma__> hardyrr: so much for universal web standards! ie stuffed that one up big time
[21:55] <tyfon> ^^
[21:55] <Kovert> any one have the rss plasmoind working? In other words Imine isntr fetching
[21:56] <hardyrr> sigma__: I don't think it's just web standards, if it were, why couldn't I use gmail chat in a konqueror engine?
[21:56] <hardyrr> google made the chat work in firefox, surely it followed some standards...
[21:56] <marco_> ciao
[21:57] <tyfon> yeah i find that kind of odd too hardyrr.. i noticed that
[21:57] <sigma__> hardyrr: fair enough, however i have found that konq picks up alot of coding errors on sites esp those hosted on ms servers
[21:57] <tyfon> hotmail is a pain to browse with khtml
[21:57] <tyfon> not that i use it.. but still
[21:57] <sigma__> hardyrr: gmail says it doesn't support konq as a official browser, its not on the list
[21:58] <Kovert> wow no one uses the RSS plasmoid?
[21:58] <sigma__> tyfon: hotmail is for ie users:)
[21:58] <sigma__> Kovert: where is it?
[21:58] <hardyrr> sigma__: why shouldn't they if they can code against firefox and safari?
[21:58] <Kovert> 4.2 it's a new plasmoid
[21:58] <hardyrr> they outright filter browsers that are not ie/firefox or safari, I think opera is unsupported
[21:59] <sigma__> hardyrr: thats what I dont get, because isnt safari based on khtml?
[21:59] <tyfon> hmm.. did your try with diff agent-id?
[21:59] <hardyrr> tyfon: I did, but didn't work as well
[21:59] <tyfon> ah ok
[22:00] <sigma__> google hosted the kde launch event but they dont officially support konq. how strange?
[22:00] <hardyrr> microsoft made silverlight yet, but some of their sites still use flash
[22:01] <tyfon> *chuckle*
[22:01] <hardyrr> that doesn't mean diddly squat :)
[22:01] <tyfon> at least they made hotmail run on windows and not freebsd after a while
[22:01] <tyfon> after failing a few times trying first ;)
[22:02] <hardyrr> they figured the support would be cheaper, performance wasn't on their minds lol
[22:02] <sigma__> i have only seen one silverlight site and it too had a non-silverlight version
[22:02] <Kovert> Thought it was silver fish and I stpeed on it
[22:03] <Kovert> well stepped
[22:03] <tyfon> i kind of hope it will be a success and open instead of flash
[22:03] <tyfon> i hate flash with a passion
[22:03] <burn_> !pastebin
[22:03] <Kovert> flesh?
[22:03] <hardyrr> well, the silverlight advantage is the programming
[22:04] <sigma__> only bill knew how to run that company, since vista i have lost all hope in it. even hp wants to make their own linux based os because they get too many complaints from biz clients
[22:04] <hardyrr> that's where microsoft shines, makes programming better. like they did in the xbox 360
[22:04] <Kovert> silverlight works better then my RSS plazmoid
[22:04] <tyfon> hardyrr: i'd like to hear that from you after writing something in mfc ;)
[22:05] <hardyrr> tyfon: they offer the best IDE there is ( debatable i'm sure... ) , and I only tried playing in c# and .Net
[22:07] <hardyrr> what I mean is, try programming in actionscript, and then silverlight, and you'll probably figure out which is better
[22:07] <hardyrr> for playing videos, that's a different story. i have no idea which plays them faster
[22:08] <hardyrr> but there weren't many complaints during the olympics were there? except for linux users...
[22:08] <tyfon> no there wasn't
[22:10] <hardyrr> anyway, i'm more interested in seeing what the <video> tag firefox is get us. hopefully ogg and theora can be as easy to use as a flash player
[22:10] <tyfon> yeah
[22:11] <tyfon> lets hope they follow and implement it in IE too..
[22:11] <tyfon> flash needs to die lol
[22:11] <nikola> Lolzorz
[22:11] <hardyrr> haha, they will, with windows media player like codecs :S , you will have to install codecs to go to wikipedia :(
[22:11] <nikola> But..Club penguin is written in Flash :O
[22:12] <hardyrr> not club penguin :(
[22:13] <hardyrr> well, for me flash can still live for games and some moronic web sites, but for video something else ffs..
[22:13] <tyfon> the worst is entering a site consisting of 1 flash app
[22:14] <tyfon> and no html equivalent
[22:14] <slapstics-12> Hello all I just installed the kubuntu-desktop over my ubuntu 8.10 install. I love it so far but it seems to be missing the kwin install and firefox UI seems a bit chopped together. Any assistance is appreciated :D
[22:14] <tyfon> missing kwin?
[22:14] <cw5411> Anyone here good with making bridges for virtual box?
[22:14] <slapstics-12> tyfon: so it seems I am using the kde 4.2 beta though
[22:15] <hardyrr> cw5411: sure, in windows, I suck at networking in linux
[22:15] <cw5411> hardyrr: like me huh?
[22:15] <tyfon> slapstics-12: you are in kde now?
[22:15] <slapstics-12> yes i am
[22:15] <hardyrr> but the manual gives a few instructions about linux bridges
[22:15] <tyfon> do a "ps aux | grep kwin" in konsole and see if something popps out
[22:16] <tyfon> (without the quotes ;)
[22:16] <cw5411> I want my virtual machiens on the same network as my actual machine. What happens is, either my vritual machine is connected or my actual is connected, not both.
[22:17] <slapstics-12> tyfon: alex      5661  1.6  1.9  60748 19980 ?        S    15:21   1:52 kwin -session 10c67a7572000122887520200000212090000_1228875889_176993
[22:17] <slapstics-12> that's the output
[22:17] <tyfon> you're fine in regards to kwin then :)
[22:17] <nikola> Kwin For the Win! ;d
[22:17] <nikola> :D
[22:17] <tyfon> :)
[22:17] <hardyrr> since we're all kde folks around here...
[22:18] <hardyrr> does anyone know a good way to switch a window to another desktop without using the mouse
[22:18] <hardyrr> that's the one thing I liked in gnome
[22:18] <slapstics-12> Oh man i found the effects configs...sorry for the dummy question, thanks for the help tyfon
[22:18] <tyfon> no problem :)
[22:19] <tyfon> what do you mean about firefox is chopped together?
[22:19] <nikola> idk...
[22:19] <lucax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83728/   hey guys i get this error when i try to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[22:20] <nikola> i don't speak spanish...
[22:20] <nikola> And Licax, try to download the official KDE desktop Ubuntu www.kubuntu.org
[22:20] <slapstics-12> tyfon: the tabs ui and fonts cross I'll post a screen cap in a sec if you'd like
[22:20] <tyfon> lucax: try kubuntu-desktop
[22:21] <lucax> ok thanks
[22:21] <tyfon> slapstics-12: hmm.. i'm not really a firefox user, but can't hurt to have a look :)
[22:22] <tyfon> hardyrr: try ctrl+F1 to Fn
[22:23] <hardyrr> tyfon: that just switches, a good thing is to switch and take the window along :)
[22:23] <tyfon> to move an app to another desktop you mean?
[22:24] <hardyrr> yeah
[22:24] <tyfon> ah ;)
[22:24] <tyfon> i don't know that
[22:24] <lucax> if i do kubuntu-desktop it tries to install kde3, and still get same problems with kde4-desktop
[22:24] <hardyrr> it's a pain in the ass going through each window and moving it with 3 clicks
[22:24] <tyfon> lucax: ah you are running hardy?
[22:24] <slapstics-12> tyfon: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5003/snapshot1lc6.png sorry for delay had to read up on ksnapshot :D
[22:25] <lucax> tyfon, yes
[22:25] <tyfon> hmm
[22:25] <tyfon> thats odd.. i was under the impressio that kubuntu-kde4-desktop would work there :o
[22:25] <hardyrr> lucax: sudo apt-get install -f
[22:25] <hardyrr> then try again
[22:25] <hardyrr> also try sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:25] <tyfon> slapstics-12: that's ugly :p
[22:26] <lucax> did it, nothing happens
[22:26] <hardyrr> lucax: but you should now install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[22:26] <slapstics-12> tyfon: yea it is
[22:27] <slapstics-12> but the rest of kde4 makes up for it
[22:27] <tyfon> try using konqueror for a bit :)
[22:27] <lucax> hardyrr, i cant
[22:27] <tyfon> i googled firefox ugly kubuntu intrepid and there are 7k hits hehe
[22:28] <hardyrr> ok, out of ideas :( , i ran into that error myself and that's how i solved it lol
[22:28] <hardyrr> but there weren't that many packages
[22:28] <slapstics-12> tyfon: well looks like I got no choice but to use konq
[22:29] <tyfon> ah installed it here now
[22:29] <nikola> How can i play Counter-Strike on Kubuntu? ;d
[22:29] <tyfon> it looks just as ugly
[22:29] <nikola> :D
[22:29] <tyfon> nikola: wine ;)
[22:30] <nikola> Ohhh  lol , thanks :D
[22:30] <Adola> Wine
[22:30] <slapstics-12> is good
[22:30] <nikola> I know, i like black wine
[22:30] <nikola> LOL, just kiddding
[22:31] <lucax> solve it, repos problem
[22:31] <lucax> thanks
[22:32] <tyfon> cool :)
[22:32] <slapstics-12> konq doesnt have adblock?
[22:32] <hardyrr> konq3 had it, don't know about konq4
[22:33] <slapstics-12> found it
[22:33]  * Kovert is running intrepid on a brand new lenovo S10E after ripping out horrible Suse Enterprise
[22:33] <slapstics-12> hmm to many options hidden in kde lol
[22:33] <tyfon> well at least they are there ;)
[22:34] <hardyrr> that's the way to go, hide the most obscure, show the most used
[22:35] <force> how to upgrade to kde 4.2, i pasted addresses to third-party software from kubuntu website but it do not show kde4.2
[22:36] <slapstics-12> well it's actually called 4.1.8
[22:36] <slapstics-12> dunno if that'll help
[22:37] <toby> Can anyone advise on why my systray icons are occasionally missing? See this pic: http://asktoby.is-a-geek.com/~toby/kde4SysTray.jpeg
[22:38] <tyfon> nvidia+
[22:38] <tyfon> ?
[22:38] <toby> I have an nvidia card, yes. It happens whether I turn compositing on or off.
[22:38] <tyfon> i have issues almost like that on my laptop
[22:39] <tyfon> but fine on my workstation
[22:39] <tyfon> both nvidia though (9500 something in laptop and 9800 gtx in workstation)
[22:39] <nikola> OK,i tried counter strike with wine...
[22:40] <toby> I'm thinking of trading my nvidia (Geforce 6 series) with an ATI card.
[22:40] <nikola> And...ZOMG....!!!
[22:40] <nikola> The screen is upside down <_<
[22:40] <tyfon> hahaha
[22:40] <force> how to upgrade to kde 4.2, i pasted addresses to third-party software from kubuntu website but it do not show kde4.2
[22:40] <tyfon> toby: nvidia has started implementing accelerated h264, mpeg and vc-1 in their linux drivers.. i'd wait a bit and see
[22:41] <tyfon> that is for g92+ nvidia cards
[22:41] <tyfon> so you'd have to get a new one in any case
[22:41] <ImLiz> Hi, all, question, if I want to upgrade from dapper-drake to hardy-heron will it be installed over my current version or is it integrated??
[22:41] <slapstics-12> force: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[22:41] <toby> The ATI drivers are open source now for around a year... I guess they're pretty good by now
[22:42] <nikola> ImLiz: it will overwrite it...
[22:42] <nikola> i think
[22:42] <force> slapstics-12: kubuntu 8.10
[22:42] <tyfon> not sure.. a friend of mine has the hd4350 and he gets black screen.. i haven't been over there to look at it yet
[22:42] <tyfon> he tried to install intrepid today
[22:43] <ImLiz> nikola: thx
[22:43] <nikola> ImLiz: np
[22:44] <bob__> You down with OPP?
[22:44] <bob__> Yeah you know me!
[22:44] <PSiL0> toby:  Don't the open source ATI drivers lack 3d acceleration?
[22:44] <slapstics-12> force: did you also enable the recommended updates check in adept?
[22:44] <toby> PSiL0: I don't know... thanks for the warning
[22:45] <PSiL0> toby: common rule of thumb (as of this moment): nvidia=crappy hardware, good driver support; ATI=better hardware, crappy driver support
[22:45] <force> slapstics-12: no i have all updates disabled but i want manually to update to kde42 beta
[22:45] <tyfon> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123091  <-- this is a very compelling reason to go nvidia
[22:45] <toby> My geforce 6-series is performing like a pig :(
[22:46] <tyfon> don't need 3 ghz core2 cpu to play 1080p h264 video :)
[22:46] <tyfon> but its still only weeks old
[22:46] <PSiL0> toby: That being said, I have ATI mobility x2300 on my laptop running on the fglrx (ATI) nonpropietary drivers on kubuntu 8.10, and I've been liking it so far
[22:47] <tyfon> yeah i suspect i have to install fglrx at my friends machine
[22:47] <tyfon> to get the hd4350 working
[22:47] <eagles0513875> PSiL0 no they dont lack 3d acceleration i have open gl enabled on my 3 yr old laptop
[22:47] <eagles0513875> but ihave an older machine
[22:47] <toby> Are you using Konversation right now? When I resize my konversation window by dragging it at the corner it re-draws about once per second
[22:47] <eagles0513875> one downside bout ati is the crappy linux drivers
[22:47] <tyfon> ouch
[22:48] <eagles0513875> newer hardware its hard to get the open gl stuff working wiht ati
[22:48] <eagles0513875> granted now on my older card its working fine outa box but in the beginning it was a nightmare to get it working tyfon
[22:48] <tyfon> yeah
[22:48] <tyfon> i had a laptop with the x700 card :p
[22:48] <tyfon> it was a pita too.. black screen and everything
[22:49] <eagles0513875> i have a 200m card
[22:49] <eagles0513875> i have a link somewhere in my gmail that i could dig up that might help u out
[22:49] <eagles0513875> ati and broadcom are rather nasty stuff to work with
[22:49] <tyfon> i'll just try fglrx at first i think
[22:50] <tyfon> boot into single user first
[22:50] <eagles0513875> tyfon what version u on
[22:50] <eagles0513875> interepid
[22:50] <tyfon> yeah
[22:50] <toby> I'm assuming 1fps in Konversation resizing is not normal then :)
[22:50] <eagles0513875> no its not
[22:50] <slapstics-12> force: you have to use adept for kde4.2 to add the adress as the source since updating to kde 4.2 beta you gotta install all the upgraded dependencies, it'd be alot easier to use a pkg manager such as adept than doing it manually
[22:50] <eagles0513875> tyfon open jockey and it should find the proper driver for the card
[22:50] <eagles0513875> !jockey | tyfon
[22:50] <tyfon> yeah but X won't start :p
[22:51] <tyfon> he just gets a black screen
[22:51] <eagles0513875> ahhhhh
[22:51] <PSiL0> ahhh
[22:51] <tyfon> i'm ok with bash
[22:51] <eagles0513875> toby did u change something in the xorg.conf
[22:51] <PSiL0> yeah, the newer ati cards (like mine) lack foss support
[22:51] <force> slapstics-12: you mean from add remove software
[22:51] <tyfon> toby: http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA
[22:51] <eagles0513875> no offense to anyone im sticking with nvidia
[22:52] <tyfon> not sure if it applies to your card
[22:52] <tyfon> maybe
[22:52] <PSiL0> yeah, I gave up on fedora 10 after trying to get fglrx to work
[22:52] <eagles0513875> !reconfigure
[22:52] <eagles0513875> toby try this dpkg -reconfigure Xorg
[22:52] <tyfon> toby: are you running nvidia's drivers or the standard nv driver?
[22:53] <tyfon> (did you install a new driver?)
[22:53] <toby> eagles0513875: Not manually changed xorg.conf, no, but I have used nvidia-settings to modify it
[22:53] <toby> eagles0513875: I'm running latest drivers from nvidia
[22:53] <tyfon> ah
[22:53] <tyfon> hmm
[22:53] <eagles0513875> thats funny i have an 8800gt and it works fine no problems wiht latest
[22:53] <tyfon> actually.. the old nv driver might own it in 2d performance
[22:53] <eagles0513875> i had no problems with the newest or one before
[22:54] <tyfon> toby: if you replace "nvidia" with "nv" in xorg.conf and restart the xserver... see if that helps.. make sure to backup xorg.conf first
[22:54] <Kovert> the wifi network app in the bottom right of the screen knetwork? is there a better replacement for that
[22:54] <tyfon> eagles0513875: yeah i have a 8800 gts in another computer and no issues with it either
[22:54] <eagles0513875> is this a desktop or laptop toby
[22:55] <toby> Desktop, with two concurrent users on VT7 and 9
[22:55] <slapstics-12> force: yea
[22:55] <tyfon> hmm
[22:55] <toby> http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA indicates that the problem is solved in latest drivers
[22:55] <tyfon> might not be a good idea to put in the "nv" driver then
[22:55] <toby> ..if you read to the bottom
[22:55] <tyfon> oh
[22:55] <eagles0513875> O_o
[22:55] <tyfon> yeah
[22:56] <force> slapstics-12: i do not see kde 4.2 only 4.1.80 updates
[22:56] <tyfon> force: thats the correct ones
[22:56] <eagles0513875> i dont get that
[22:56] <tyfon> 4.2 beta
[22:56] <eagles0513875> im on 4.1 and dont have issues
[22:57] <slapstics-12> force: 4.1.8 = 4.2 beta
[22:57] <eagles0513875> if your running the beta expect something like that
[22:57] <FM2n-> man
[22:57] <FM2n-> linux sux
[22:57] <eagles0513875> but 4.1 i dont think you would have issues toby
[22:57] <FM2n-> so damn hard to get workingi
[22:57] <force> slapstics-12: ok thanks i launch upgrade
[22:57] <eagles0513875> fm its not hard takes time and patience
[22:58] <slapstics-12> force: no problem hope you enjoy kde 4.2
[22:58] <Kovert> FM2n-: is it hard I never noticed
[22:58] <FM2n-> i am american
[22:58] <eagles0513875> same here fm
[22:58] <FM2n-> i have no patience!
[22:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[22:58] <Kovert> I am hungry
[22:58] <FM2n-> hungry is universal
[22:58] <eagles0513875> fm if u dont have patience for trouble shooting stuff stick to windows
[22:58] <Kovert> I thought it was Paramont?
[22:58] <FM2n-> i love the ubuntu interface
[22:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[22:58] <toby> Kovert: No, lunch is paramount.
[22:58] <FM2n-> but it can be frustrating
[22:58] <eagles0513875> !ot
[22:59] <Kovert> o Lunch why not?
[22:59] <eagles0513875> !ot | Kovert
[22:59] <FM2n-> why cant i just double click on an .exe file and have it do everything for me
[22:59] <eagles0513875> !info wine
[22:59] <Kovert> eagles0513875: got it :-(
[22:59] <slapstics-12> FM2n-: they have it it's called .deb
[22:59] <eagles0513875> FM2n- u need wine for that to work
[22:59] <eagles0513875> if its a windows program
[22:59] <FM2n-> very funny
[22:59] <Kovert> eagles0513875: the wifi network app in the bottom right of the screen knetwork? is there a better replacement for that
[22:59] <eagles0513875> and any native linux programs need to be .deb or compiled from source if they are packaged in other formats
[23:00] <Kovert> I figured I had your attention now
[23:00] <eagles0513875> Kovert i use knetwork not sure of alternatives
[23:00] <FM2n-> can u use windows drivers in linux?
[23:00] <FM2n-> wifi specifically
[23:00] <tyfon> yes
[23:00] <Kovert> ok thx
[23:00] <FM2n-> no way!
[23:00] <FM2n-> windows sux
[23:00] <eagles0513875> FM2n- yes u need ndiswrapper to do it
[23:00] <tyfon> FM2n-: via ndiswrapper
[23:00] <eagles0513875> lol
[23:01] <eagles0513875> im out guys its late here and im bout to faceplant in the keyboard
[23:01] <eagles0513875> night all
[23:01] <tyfon> laters
[23:02] <toby> I'm going to turn in now too, I'll try the nv drivers tomorrow, Thanks for the advice peops
[23:03] <fabiosarts> hi =)
[23:04] <Kovert> eagles0513875: wicd is what I wanted
[23:07] <nikola> Wanna hear a joke?
[23:07] <nikola> What did the sea say to me?
[23:07] <nikola> Nothing, it just waves.
[23:18] <antoranz> Hi, guys!
[23:18] <antoranz> I can't get the compiz cube to work
[23:19] <antoranz> I removed all the *compiz* files form my home and started over
[23:19] <antoranz> increased my number of desktops and enabled the cube... and it simply doesn't work
[23:19] <antoranz> I acn't even switch to a different desktop
[23:20] <antoranz> any idea what I should try?
[23:21] <genii> antoranz: Maybe ask them in #compiz-fusion channel :)
[23:21] <antoranz> let me see there
[23:24] <rogerio> oi
[23:24] <rogerio> algum brasileiro?
[23:25] <rogerio> aki so tem fresco
[23:25] <hardyrr> the thing i absolutely hate about kde4 is if you want to select the edge of a window it's just 1 pixel
[23:25] <Tm_T> !br | rogerio
[23:28] <TimS> Art
[23:28] <TimS> Arg!*
[23:28] <TimS> My sound keeps dying
[23:29] <TimS> Whenever I have a flash video using sound, it breaks Amarok and it just skips tracks really fast without playing anything
[23:29] <TimS> Flash must be broken for me atm, going full screen kills firefox
[23:33] <tyfon> flash sucks :p
[23:33] <hardyrr> TimS: thanks for the heads up, I think that's my problem lol
[23:33] <TimS> Flash seems to have broken recently :/
[23:33] <nikola> I like flash because Club Penguin is written in it :D :D :D
[23:34] <hardyrr> what's broken is linux sound stuff....
[23:34] <hardyrr> oss / alsa / pulse audio / esd / arts blablabla
[23:34] <isaacj87> Has KDE 4.2 beta 2 been tagged yet?
[23:36]  * cuznt is *** the metabeta ***
[23:42] <hardyrr> I'm going now, happy linuxing
[23:42] <hardyrr> bye
[23:42] <nikola> BYe
[23:57] <skole> Hi! How to find out if I have a 32 or 64 bit processor? And what OS I have?